Saturday, August 25, 2012

The Farmer's Wife: When a story of surviving motherhood isn't force fed

We're a little late with our final Farmer's Wife post due to some other Kate-ish news coming up, but better late than never! 

Realitytvkids.com will be organizing an official summer "book club" screening of The Farmer's Wife. Watch Part 3 this week and discuss it as you go with all the interesting folks here. If you missed Part 1 it can be found here and Part 2 here.

Audrey, Abby, Whitney and Juanita, 1996.

David Sutherland never intended to find a woman like Juanita. However when he did, he didn't succumb to the temptation to write the script for her, give her labels, define her. For three years, he stepped aside and let Juanita just be Juanita. What resulted was not just a beautiful story of a wife's devotion to her husband and one woman's strength in incredible adversity, but a poinant portrait of motherhood. Juanita listened to her children, was there for them as much as she could be, worked hard to improve their situation and give them a better life, and always showered them with positivity and love.

In part three, Juanita takes her family's destiny into her own hands by furthering her education and getting a job in crop insurance. Due to her hard work from the ground up, the family's hard times finally seem to turn around as this wonderful documentary comes to a close. Today, although Juanita is divorced and no longer lives on a farm, she reportedly still works in the farming sector on the business side, helping out the farmers of Nebraska. Darrel reportedly still lives and works on the same farm featured in the documentary. 

Reality T.V. today loves to "define" characters. Kate is the "mother of 8," and has made a career out of this definition. We prefer authenticity, which Sutherland was lucky to find in a little town in Nebraska in 1995.

Whitney, Audrey, Juanita and Abby, on a family trip to Mexico, 2009.

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Dwindle said...

OMG! I was looking for a new avatar from stock photos. I typed "Woman and children begging" into my browser and clicked on 'search images'. Several pages of ill and malnourished children from drought and poverty stricken countries around our planet. And then BOOM! a picture of Kate Gosselin in that teeny gold foil dress at the Kentucky Derby. The caption read "She is single and ready to mingle". It was followed by more photos of starving and diseased children from 3rd world countries.

Some editor somewhere had fun tagging that woman. Holy cow!

Ex Nurse said...

silimon said... 50
I don't want to look through 1000+ posts on my iPhone so please bear with me, I am curious:

Did the original poster include a medical disclaimer when they advised on the use of glycine for sleep issues?
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I was the original poster. I didn't just come on here and recommend it, I posted it in response to someone (Once a Viewer?) asking if anyone had any recommendations for insomnia. Another poster asked for some clarification and I did say that everyone should check out the research for themselves and that I was reporting my experience. Honestly, I have been out of nursing so long that I didn't even think about the fact that it would appear as an endorsement from a professional--so I was glad that the other poster brought that to my attention. I also clarified that glycine is recommended for insomnia, not sleep apnea or any other sleep disorders. I cited that the research said that it aids in falling asleep and improves the architecture of sleep so that there are more hours of restorative, deep wave sleep.

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NJGal51 said...

@xxxxxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 Guess the juice box folks no longer send you freebies--or their brand would be front & center like PeaceLoveWorld and PopChips.
@Kateplusmy8: @xxxxxxxxx it was just a pic of my kids yummy lunches!I really use/apprec things sent r way&it's nice 2 thank companies that way2!XO:)
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Kate - You'd beter read the article that we linked earlier. I don't think the companies are sending you things because "they love" your kids. You grift and they send products so that you'll plug them. The IRS and/or the FTC won't fall for your line of bullshit. You thank people #privately, you #plug and #endorse @publicly.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What no photo of tonight's dinner?


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They're probably at Jon's.

Ex Nurse said...

Silimom--
It was a fair question--don't mind it at all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


@Kateplusmy8: @xxxxxxxxx it was just a pic of my kids yummy lunches!I really use/apprec things sent r way&it's nice 2 thank companies that way2!XO:)
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Kate - You'd beter read the article that we linked earlier. I don't think the companies are sending you things because "they love" your kids. You grift and they send products so that you'll plug them. The IRS and/or the FTC won't fall for your line of bullshit. You thank people #privately, you #plug and #endorse @publicly.

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Totally agree. Give me a break, Kate. You can act all day long like you are just thanking them but I don't believe for a second the IRS would consider all these companies as just sending "gifts" to you or they would send me a gift too.

They are sending you payment knowing you are a celeb and will advertise it. THis is called INCOME and Uncle Sam wants his cut.

It's so arrogant that she thinks she can just get all these freebies for nothing. Heck she even had someone negotiating to get her out of the taxes on the Lane contract. What a slime ball.

Anonymous said...

Midnight Madness said... 197
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I have a question for you- those kids will have to go out in the world and get jobs and the workplace will not restrict food types- what then? It's nice for you to take them into consideration, but the big wide world isn't going to. They need to learn to adapt their surroundings. I work with a guy with a peanut allergy. We were in language class together. He carries an epi-pen. He never once told any of us to restrict the food types we brought into the class. If it's that's serious for children, maybe they need to be separated for eating while they are young and taught how to manage their allergies. I am not trying to be mean to these kids at all- just realistic- they will eventually be expected to go out in the world, and peanut butter is extraordinarily popular. They will come across it in life- guaranteed.
Anyway, like I said, nice of you to consider them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

ExNurse I'm glad you took it that way....I was afraid it came across as passive aggressive, no offense as I don't think it was meant that way ...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Do any of us go bother their favorite internet discussion sites?


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No. Not that I know of. I play in my own sandbox and it would be nice if they did the same.

Jumping In said...

I agree on the lunchbox overkill. Firstly, do these kids ever get a say in anything? Everything is counted out with strict portion control. My sense is there are no options or special requests tolerated in this household! Her lunchbox picture is designed to showcase Kate's tireless effort in providing well-balanced and enviable lunches. Her intentions are good, but does it have to be so damn complicated, it's a school lunch!

Although I do not have children, I think a whole sandwich, a whole piece of fruit, a whole granola bar, another snack-type item and a drink would suffice. Mostly though, I would like to see a picture of 8 different lunch boxes reflecting the individual tastes of 8 different kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can envision a peanut allergy table as just about the most embarrassing thing in the world for a child. Even if their friends are allowed to come sit with the lepers.

Is there a documented case of a kid getting a peanut reaction because someone else brought peanuts to school, not counting if they ate one from a friend? Teach kids not to take peanuts. I understand it's in the air, but in airplanes it's different because it's a place where air doesn't circulate, but we're talking about a big cafeteria.

Flight of the Kiwi said...

Anonymous said...

Assuming you are correct about this one individual, that is not generalizable to an entire group. I would think that an intelligent person would know that.

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Sure it is. The Ph with no D example was just that, an example. Out of many leading us infinitely superior beings here to form a hypothesis based on a mountain of data leading to a perfectly reasonable generalization of the behavior of the sheeple group. We predict their behavior based on probability and they rarely disappoint. Doesn't mean it necessarily applies to each and every "fan". An intelligent person knows this. Apparently you do not?

What does generalizable mean in YOUR world?

Ex Nurse said...

Readerlady said....
Here's one KK should know: On Old Olympus' Towering Top, a Finn and German Viewed Some Hops.
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I posted my comment before I got to yours...I don't think that I still remember the names of the nerves that correspond to the first letters, so, not really very useful.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Then you'd just be a Ph. What good is THAT? 159

Fido's, I so agree. The goal is the FUD. Without the D it's just an FU.

(Rhymes, not signed in/aka in black)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Out of many leading us infinitely superior beings here to form a hypothesis based on a mountain of data leading to a perfectly reasonable generalization of the behavior of the sheeple group. We predict their behavior based on probability and they rarely disappoint.

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I've seen and heard enough from Kate's fans to determine they really aren't the brightest bunch, in general. The brighter ones stopped being fans, like Baby Mama and Em Tanner. I didn't arrive at this conclusion overnight, and I'm not going to apologize for it. I believe it to be true. They can think what they like about this place, that's their right, but overall I've observed over tens of thousands of posts that most of the people here are smart, sassy and funny and I'm not going to apologize for that reasonable conclusion either. About nine months ago we also compared the demographics of this place compared to some others, which anyone can find online with a little googling. This place is largely highly educated career women between 30 and 50 or so. Sheeple sites stats could not boast the same.

Dwindle said...

Over In Kate's County said... 182
Perhaps you should reconsider your intelligence level now since apparently you are not "smart enough to follow rules."

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LOL! Okay, I'll do that! Thanks for the suggestion! :)

Now where is that online IQ test? I seem to have lost my ability to find it!
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I dont know where the TEST is, but I have cloned copies of all of our IQ's over here in the Rumspringa cupboard. So if a passing sheep sucked some IQ out through your ear, and then tossed it away coz they didnt know what it was, just hobble on over here and I'll hand ya the key to the cupboard.

Bring your own cup if your going to tap the rumspringa. :)

wayward said...

chefsummer said... 200
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack I whipped up sloppy joes& sautéed red potatoes,onions,green beans w garlic,olive oil spices&bals vinegar I call it:quick yum!
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What no photo of tonight's dinner
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No, because if she would people would recognize her sautéed red potatoes,onions,green beans w garlic,olive oil spices&bals vinegar to be a new tasty frozen side dish by Alexia.


Don't flatter yourself Kate.

I just tried this last week. It comes with a packet of spice infused olive oil and you just sautee the 'veges' (lol) in it. It was good but doesn't make much. If all the boys had been here for dinner I would have had to make each DS their own bag.. lol.

Nice try, thanks for playing Kate. Were the sloppy joes made with Manwich as well?

chefsummer #Leh said...

So the Duggars are showing the funeral for their lost baby.

Why not keep that a family thing and keep it off TV?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No, because if she would people would recognize her sautéed red potatoes,onions,green beans w garlic,olive oil spices&bals vinegar to be a new tasty frozen side dish by Alexia.

And notice the ad says "Bring on the roast," not the sloppy joes. LOL

readerlady said...

Butterfly -- An adult can manage his/her allergies, usually, but a child cannot due to maturity level. As they grow older they learn to take more and more responsibility for their own safety. Unfortunately, though, ADULTS don't always cooperate. When a child refuses something, or says they can't eat something or that they are allergic to something, NEVER try to force or persuade that child to eat it anyway, and NEVER just ignore what the child says just because they are a child. Or an adult, for that matter. I'm severely allergic to mushrooms. Eating something that has even been near a mushroom causes almost instantaneous anaphylactic reaction. I've been in the ER several times because people think I'm just being picky or that if I can't see them, I won't have a reaction (you'd be surprised at the number of products that have powdered or pureed mushrooms in them). When someone tells you they are allergic to a food, take that seriously! Sorry - most of that isn't directed at you personally, just a plea from someone who knows firsthand the problems of managing a food allergy. I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just one political comment -- MY candidate is the best and no one can persuade me otherwise, LOL!

Dwindle said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 15
Then you'd just be a Ph. What good is THAT? 159

Fido's, I so agree. The goal is the FUD. Without the D it's just an FU
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My daughter is now saying she is working on her "UHDD-DUD" Not her "FUD-DUD".

An Ed.D not Ph.D

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Actually I did learn something from the beach cruiser drive by today. (A step above the tricycles of the past weekend.) Generalizable is apparently a word. I really didn't realize. I'm going to try to use it in a sentence before the day is up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Can you imagine if I lost the "D" in my degree? Then I'd just be a "J" and that just would be lame.

Anonymous said...

Readerlady,
I absolutely do take people seriously when they say they have an allergy- and I was surprised to learn how many foods peanuts were in! Thanks to my classmate with peanut allergy :)

I didn't know mushrooms could be an allergen.

Dwindle said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 169
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who gave suggestions about how to handle my younger grandson since his older brother started kindergarten. I am going to share all of these with my daughter.

Also, we're leaving on Saturday to spend a week with them and I am going to implement the sticker chart. I'll be taking him to preschool and picking him up around lunchtime (instead of him going into the daycare room in the afternoon). I already have a little bag of dollar store toys that my daughter and SIL can use as well after we're gone. Thanks again, everyone
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Awww. Let us know how it went for him and how they all are when you get back!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Butterfly, I completely agree with you. I think it is incredibly sweet, sensitive and sacrificial for others to think about kids with allergies, but what exactly will they do when people don't? The real world includes peanuts and they will have to learn to live in it.

In a way it's a little scary to isolate kids like that because then they are not learning how to function in a world that tends to have peanuts around a lot. They've got to learn not to touch things with peanuts, hang around the peanut dish, and to always ask about peanuts or read the packaging when they eat something. If we shelter them from all this, they won't learn how to manage their own issues. And it's been strongly suggested by the experts that not exposing a kid to small amounts of allergens just makes allergies all the worse.

Off topic, Anderson Cooper is so cute all wet. God bless those people hope everyone makes it through just fine.

Anonymous said...

Flight of the Kiwi said... 13

Sure it is. The Ph with no D example was just that, an example. Out of many leading us infinitely superior beings here to form a hypothesis based on a mountain of data leading to a perfectly reasonable generalization of the behavior of the sheeple group. We predict their behavior based on probability and they rarely disappoint. Doesn't mean it necessarily applies to each and every "fan". An intelligent person knows this. Apparently you do not?

What does generalizable mean in YOUR world?

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Well, since my world entails the use of statistics and data, one example will never be generalizable, which is precisely what I stated. And I never said that the example applied to each and every "fan." I said that it was not generalizable to an entire group. There is a difference, which you don't seem to recognize, so I'll spell it out with an example that doesn't involve sheeple or haters:

A sample of students is assessed and found to perform at XX average level on XX test. It is agreed that the sample is representative of all the students in School A, and therefore School A students are likely to perform at XX level. That does NOT mean that every student at School A will perform at that level.

aggiemom09121416 said...

wayward said... 18

chefsummer said... 200
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack I whipped up sloppy joes& sautéed red potatoes,onions,green beans w garlic,olive oil spices&bals vinegar I call it:quick yum!
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What no photo of tonight's dinner
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No, because if she would people would recognize her sautéed red potatoes,onions,green beans w garlic,olive oil spices&bals vinegar to be a new tasty frozen side dish by Alexia.

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Kate's slipping.....she should have tweeted the @Alexia company!
My hat is off to Wayward. You are one sharp consumer!

Dwindle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 23
Actually I did learn something from the beach cruiser drive by today. (A step above the tricycles of the past weekend.) Generalizable is apparently a word. I really didn't realize. I'm going to try to use it in a sentence before the day is up.
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Generalizable
gen·er·al·ize
   [jen-er-uh-lahyz] gen·er·al·ized, gen·er·al·iz·ing.

verb (used with object)
1.
to infer (a general principle, trend, etc.) from particular facts, statistics, or the like.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Generalizable


"This blog is a generalizable record and accounting of Katie Gosselin's lies, manipulations of others, and the signs and symptoms of her mental illness."

I am sure admin will do much better, but I couldnt resist a bad attempt.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Are we seriously debating the intelligence level of the sheeple? Have you SEEN what they post here?

I have a scientific theory for you: if it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's as stupid as a duck.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Alexia. LOL. For those beautiful summer nights when only overpriced frozen julienned carrots will do.

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 16

I've seen and heard enough from Kate's fans to determine they really aren't the brightest bunch, in general. The brighter ones stopped being fans, like Baby Mama and Em Tanner. I didn't arrive at this conclusion overnight, and I'm not going to apologize for it. I believe it to be true. They can think what they like about this place, that's their right, but overall I've observed over tens of thousands of posts that most of the people here are smart, sassy and funny and I'm not going to apologize for that reasonable conclusion either. About nine months ago we also compared the demographics of this place compared to some others, which anyone can find online with a little googling. This place is largely highly educated career women between 30 and 50 or so. Sheeple sites stats could not boast the same.

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And I've seen and heard enough from the posters here to conclude that there are varying levels of education and intelligence in the mix. Further, there is an abundance of evidence supporting my belief that the group, in general, is filled with busybody women who in real life are types to thumb their noses at other women who aren't as perfect as they fancy themselves to be. I believe that to be an accurate assessment and won't apologize for it.

Gosselin8Come First said...

NJGal51 said... 4
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Thank you for that!

readerlady said...

Admin -- the short answer to your question is yes, there are documented cases of severe reactions AND DEATH. A little girl in Virginia died this past winter when she encountered peanuts at school. There's a very controversial treatment being tried for extreme peanut allergies now. The allergic person is given a tiny fraction of a peanut and this is gradually built up til the person is able to tolerate eating a whole peanut. It has to be done under very carefully monitored conditions because severe peanut allergy is lethal. Kids do learn to manage their allergies over time, but again, it's a maturity thing. You can't expect a 5 year old to be able to manage something that a 10 or 15 year old can. Until they are mature enough to recognize all the hazards, adults need to take on that responsibility for them. And it's not just the danger of accidentally eating something with peanuts. Kids aren't always the best about washing hands, etc. A kid eats a PBJ, then touches a book or a chair or whatever and an allergic classmate comes along and touches the same thing. When the consequence is death, it's better to err on the side of safety.

Butterfly -- Just about anything can be an allergen. Mushrooms are a fungi, which are related to molds, and for someone who's severely allergic to molds (which I am), they can be a problem. It's not a common allergy, but it isn't rare, either.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The difference between you and us, anonymous, is that even though I believe the same about Kate's fans, I don't go there and disrupt their boards and tweet them to tell them so. It's rude to disrupt a blog. I keep it in my sandbox in my playground and let them do what they want over there.

You are not allowed to insult the posters here on this territory. By all means go play on a sheeple blog or start your own. That's the rules. Goodbye.

Midnight Madness said...

Butterfly said: I have a question for you- those kids will have to go out in the world and get jobs and the workplace will not restrict food types- what then? It's nice for you to take them into consideration, but the big wide world isn't going to.

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Good question. Right now I'm concerned about young children, not adults. I would think that by the time these kids grow up and enter the work force that they will be more capable of managing their allergies and know what to do if they have an allergic reaction. They will become more educated and aware of the precautions they need to take.

Right now I can show that I am aware of possible allergies of other children and I will be alert to the fact that some kids might have reactions to peanuts. Why would I pack such a product knowing that there is a chance it would be harmful to another child? As an adult, if I knew that I would be having lunch with someone who is allergic to nuts, out of respect for that person, I would never order something from a restaurant menu that could possibly cause an allergic reaction depending upon the severity of that person's allergy.

Anonymous said...

Alexia products available at your nearest Giant Grocery store (and also WalMart) *haha*.
She's so smug and predictable.

Tamara said...

I have a question for you- those kids will have to go out in the world and get jobs and the workplace will not restrict food types- what then? It's nice for you to take them into consideration, but the big wide world isn't going to.
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Same thing with your daughter. She needs to figure out how to live a life beyond eating only PBJ.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No we're better people because we don;t have sticks up our butt and know how to have fun. Cya.

Dmasy said...

Anonymous, you have not described me correctly. And, although I don't personally know the other ladies here, I have come to respect them. In my opinion you have not described them accurately either.

I don't thumb my nose and any one -- including you.

Anonymous said...

Last night she had "leftovers" and tonight Sloppy Joes. Sounds rather mediocre to me.

bm

Anonymous said...

I see everyone's points about peanuts in schools.

Readerlady, thanks for explaining about mushrooms, I love learning new things!

I loved Admin's comment- J without the D- that would be lame- had me LOLing :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Seems like there is an easier way to try to keep kids safe without changing the eating habits of all kids. The issue that's a little tough I imagine for some parents is that peanuts are SO good for kids. They are a healthy protein with a little healthy fat that kids tend to like. A PBJ sandwich is incredibly nutritious and in some case the only thing little kids will eat. Kids will outgrow it Tamara, but when you have a skinny kid who can't put on weight and the doctor tells you to feed them anything they will eat as long as they eat it, it's hard to tell those concerned parents no PBJ. It's COMMON for kids to be picky when they are little, they quickly outgrow it. It's hard for any parent to withhold one of the few things they like, I sympathize with that.

I read the article about the death of the 7 year old in Virginia (thanks for pointing me to it), and according to CNN another child gave her a peanut, it wasn't that she just breathed them in. It seems to me the simple solution to that is to ban ANY food sharing (which I've heard a lot of schools do) and stick to the ban fiercely. If a kid is allergic to dairy it could be nutritionally detrimental to kids to cut out dairy for one kid. Just ban any sharing. Also educators could be very educated about what students have severe allergies so that lunch monitors and teachers can be extra careful.

I find it interesting that apparently in Africa peanut allergies are non existent.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Anonymous said..."Further, there is an abundance of evidence supporting my belief that the group, in general, is filled with busybody women who in real life are types to thumb their noses at other women who aren't as perfect as they fancy themselves to be"

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Free rounds of Rumspringa for all of us busybody nose-thumbers! Meat and cheese plates will also be offered. Homemade meat, of course! Middle-finger bird flippers may also participate.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Also kids aren't being picky just to be little shits. There are scientific reasons behind it. For one, they are pre wired to like the most energy rich foods (things like junk food, pizza) because that's how cavemen kids survived. Even baby animals do this in the wild apparently. This is a great, fascinating article:

http://www.parentingscience.com/picky-eaters.html

So according to that, if you have a kid who will only eat PBJ, he will probably outgrow it, but as a concerned parent, I can imagine that parent would just be happy they are eating something nutritious and upset if they were told they can't feed it to them anymore.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Can I have my rumspringa with an olive? I'm stuck up like that. Also when I nose thumb I like to have a toothpick between my teeth.

Dmasy said...

"Perfect and fancy..." I guess Anonymous has not heard about my crocs and socks attire.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Or my "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt collection.

Lauren said...

3. No insulting other posters or picking fights, refusing to let things go and move on. Stop with the snotty comments--they will be rejected. Treat people here like how you would talk to the person you most respect in your life, it's just pleasant that way.

Maybe you need to add "unless you deem them a sheeple, then they're fair game for as much name calling and insults as you see fit".

I read here almost every day and have posted a couple times, and I know it doesn't mean a thing,but I'm done. I don't enjoy grown women bickering with each other. It's becoming like eavesdropping in a high school cafeteria here. Admin makes the rules, which is certainly her right, but she ought to practice what she preaches. The two "sheeple" on the previous post who answered the questions that have been asked of them were treated terribly, in my opinion. They simply told their point of view and were ridiculed and insulted in return for not having the same opinion of some of the posters here. I'm not saying I agreed with them, and they weren't trying to make anyone change their mind, they were only stating how they felt, and I was surprised at the responses they got. I thought things would get interesting, that I would see some real discussion between the two "sides", and instead it became Mean Girls.

granny said...

Asking about knee pain, I had hip pain and after having a knee replacement, I did not want to go through any surgery again. I heard a commercial on the radio for cherry concentrate and thought I would try it. It is one quart for $20.00 and you take two tablespoons (one ounce) in 6-8 ounces of water or other beverage depending on your taste. After one month, my pain was gone. I took it for about two years and then thought that I did not need it any more so stopped taking it. After a few weeks, the pain resumed so I started taking it again.

It has 100% pure Montmorency tart cherries. Their website is
www.natureblessed.us

I am not a nurse, just a little old lady so do your research. I just know that it works for me. It won't work immediately. You need at least a month.

Hope it helps as much as it does for me.

Anonymous said...

Butterfly,

My mother and brother were deathly allergic to mushrooms.

Reactions were severe enough for them both to have to avoid dining out in restaurants because of the use of mushrooms (in many hidden forms) in many dishes.

The last time my brother ate in a restaurant he told them he had mushroom allergy, ordered appropriately, took three bites and stopped breathing. EMS had to intubate on scene.

He survived, his whole party's dinner was comped and he never went to restaurant again.

Yes, mushrooms can definitely be allergens!

Me, I have mold allergies but so far haven't had any severe reactions. I am super careful how I clean my house and take super precautions to avoid mold contamination.

I also avoid mushrooms even though I love them. Have no interest in having a stiff plastic tube shoved down my throat. :-)

Allergies, as a science, are very interesting!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lauren many people here post opposing views and aren't rude about it. Those people have always been welcome. You can search back through the blog to see many civil disagreements. No one was insulting the poster here until they started doing it. People here don't ridicule and insult for having a different view unless that poster does the same.

I don't believe for one second that most of the sheeple who come here sincerely want to be part of the group. They're here to stir the pot then step back and watch things implode because this is fun for them. I'm not falling for it. Also typically we get a post just like yours after each such implosion, which I'm not going to lie I find highly suspicious.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lauren just to remind you, anonymous's first post of the day was this:

"The one thing you do all seem to have in common here is a disproportionate sense of your own superiority."

Sorry Lauren, but you don't post crap like that then run off crying about how we are so "mean" to the sheeple. I don't think so, Lauren. Respectfully, give me a break.

Ingrid said...

More like this Admin:

if it looks like a sheep, acts like a sheep, and baas like a sheep, it's as stupid as a sheep.

Anonymous said...

Granny,

I've heard that about cherries. Something about acyanocanthins (spelling?) and their ability to reduce inflammation. I'm very glad it worked for you!

There are so, so, so many good holistic remedies out there that I believe in. There is an entire, new-in-the-past-5-years body of knowledge out there about reducing inflammation in your body by adopting an anti-inflammatory diet and lifestyle.

It's really a lifestyle as well as diet, but the concept is to see foods as medicine, if you will. I believe there are,indeed, good foods and bad foods.

Someone else mentioned upthread about changing how you eat to reduce pain, and I'm hear to tell you - it worked for me!

I'm a retired nurse and did my research. Read tons of peer reviewed studies, lots of lay literature on inflammation on cellular levels and adopted as many of the changes as I could.

I feel so much better that I have to say it was like night and day.

I won't recommend anything specific except to say read as much as you can on the subject of inflammatory process relating to pain and disability.

There are tons of books written now on the subject and you have to be careful because some of them are shills for selling 'their proprietary $$$ supplements' and some are just plain silly.

But I have at least 4 books that I bought and use as bibles and food guides.

One of the most drastic things I did was eliminate whites from my life: sugar, flour, rice, pasta, potatoes and most simple carbs from my diet. After a few weeks I lost the cravings for them.

Message to take from this long post: the information is out there, do your research; I won't say YOU can feel better, but I will say emphatically that I feel like I'm 20 again.

For those who haven't a clue where to start, check out Eating Well and Whole Living magazines at your library. It's a start.

Forgive my zealot post please; I just feel so greatful to have found this information.

Anonymous said...

Tamara said... 39
I have a question for you- those kids will have to go out in the world and get jobs and the workplace will not restrict food types- what then? It's nice for you to take them into consideration, but the big wide world isn't going to.
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Same thing with your daughter. She needs to figure out how to live a life beyond eating only PBJ.
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she did after the 1st grade. problem was she DIDNT eat if she get food she liked when she was young, and then would lose weight. At that point the doctors would threaten to hospitalize her and put an IV in her. So, as you can see, malnutrition and starvation was an actual threat for my daughter. No other child was more important than my child, I am sure you can understand that. If I was going through this today, instead of 15+ years ago, I would feed her PB&J at home for lunch everyday, but you better dang well believe my kid would get her peanut butter- there would be NO stopping it.
NONE. No one will tell me what I can and cannot feed my child to maintain her weight.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Sorry Lauren, but you don't post crap like that then run off crying about how we are so "mean" to the sheeple. I don't think so, Lauren. Respectfully, give me a break.

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The anonymous poster accuses bloggers of generalizing sheeple as being not the sharpest tool in the shed, but it's okay for him/her to turn around and assert that "in general" posters here are busybodies who think that they are perfect?

Hypocrite, much?

Lauren said...

And what exactly is suspicious about what I posted? Are you suggesting that I am posting using different names and that I am one of people that I referenced in my post? I wish there was a way to prove that I am sincere, but I guess you can think I'm a liar all you want and my life will go on. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I completely agree that some people come here to stir the pot, and I would take the advise I give my kids: ignore them and they'll get bored and move on to someone or something else.

I was specifically talking about the posters from the other day. I didn't see any insults or name calling in any of the answers they gave. Only their point of view, which like I said, I thought would start a good, intelligent discussion. I was disappointed in the responses from the regulars here.
But I feel you are doing the same to me, I was telling my opinion of the situation, and now I'm highly suspicious. I'm sorry you feel that way.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Butterfly since I've struggled with appetite problems my entire life I really sympathize with your situation as much as I sympathize with allergy problems or any issue kids struggle with.

When was about three I had a lot of stomach pain, which turned out to be a hernia, but I wasn't old enough to explain it. I lost a lot of weight and my parents talk about basically feeding my ice cream and peanut butter and other high calorie things just trying to guard against failure to thrive. Thankfully they figured it out and I felt better. I had another hernia at 16, and ten years later an h.pylori infection which resulted in terrible appetite problems and weight loss.

I know once you hit on a food that you can get down easily it would be demoralizing to be told you can't eat it. I can't imagine being the parent in that situation. Even my parents said they had never been so scared and I was a grown woman.

Anonymous said...

Oh Admin.......

Anderson Cooper is cute wet, dry, upside down and backwards!!!

As my brother used to say 'I could eat him up with a spoon, sit back and not burp'!!!!

Coop is My Hero!

readerlady said...

Admin -- Your peanut/dairy analogy isn't applicable. Dairy allergies don't usually have the potential to be fatal. Also, a kid isn't likely to have a severe reaction by touching something that a kid who ate a cheese sandwich has touched. And -- to put it in language you should be familiar with, LOL, it's the law. Peanut allergies are covered under section 504 of the ADA. They are considered a hidden disability because of the severity of it.

Permanent Name -- I can relate to your brother's experience! It's happened to me. I still eat out, but I'm very careful where I go and what I eat. I rarely try new restaurants. My favorite Chinese place, when the see me come in the door, has the kitchen staff change their gloves and they cover the work counter with plastic wrap to avoid cross-contamination. Needless to say, I eat a lot of Chinese! You don't find many places willing to make those kinds of accommodations. I also carry 2 epi-pens with me at all times.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lauren I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as you do seem sincere, I'm just saying we just tend to get a post just like yours every time. And why would I assume you meant yesterday? You didn't say yesterday, so why wouldn't I think you're talking about right now??? Huh? I can't remember what happened yesterday that you're referring to. Not the political discussion? That was awful on all accounts and it was only maybe 2 people participating so I don't get what you mean about that.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

If I was going through this today, instead of 15+ years ago, I would feed her PB&J at home for lunch everyday, but you better dang well believe my kid would get her peanut butter- there would be NO stopping it.
NONE. No one will tell me what I can and cannot feed my child to maintain her weight.

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Did she see a therapist, nutritionist or pediatrician to find out if there was an underlying physical or emotional problem as to why she would eat only peanut butter?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Readerlady peanut allergies are considered a disability??? Wow. Can you apply for disability?

readerlady said...

Ingrid 55 -- But not as sweet and cuddly as a sheep.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Oh Admin.......

Anderson Cooper is cute wet, dry, upside down and backwards!!!

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Yes. Yes he is. I bet it was the producer's idea to have him standing right under the torrent of water pouring off the porch he is on instead of under cover. LOL, why??? Well because he's so cute standing in a shower of water of course.

wayward said...

Lauren said... 50
The two "sheeple" on the previous post who answered the questions that have been asked of them were treated terribly, in my opinion.
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There have been many civil exchanges. Someone came on here a couple months ago and defended Kate for stockpiling used sports equipment. They felt that there was nothing wrong with that. I just can't understand why Kate can't let less fortunate familes have the used sports equipment. However, that was that person's point of view so it was what it was.

When people come on here like last Saturday, and say they never saw Kate be impatient or mock her kids or be indifferent to their needs, well that's just silliness. Kate was shown doing all of those things and never denied it. She said the show was really real. The only shows she complained about the editing was the RV episodes.

Bottom line, there's having differing opinions, like we did with the sports equipment, and then there is just flat out trying to rewrite history. Rewriting history is never going to fly here.

Anonymous said...

Permanent Name in Blue said... 52
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Sorry to hear about your brother and the restaurant. You know, I have a strong dislikes for restaurants and that really seals the deal- they don't cook their own food 'homemade', they have their ingredients packaged and they just slap them together and heat them up- even good restaurants rely on many shortcuts in the kitchen - canned, boxed, pre-packaged ingredients of some variety or another. You never know what is in them and that proves it.
Glad he made it through.

Nothing like a home cooked meal.

Well fellow posters, my time here is through- need to @sleep (or is it #sleep) so I can get up at zero dark thirty and fight the terrorists- it was a bad week for the war. #goodnightall!! (or is it #8exclamation points? !!!!!!!!)

Anonymous said...

Oh Dmasy,

Clapping hands!

Do you wear socks with your crocs?????!!!!!

Divine Crocilicious Statement....

So do I. We can stand together and start a trend. I heard it only takes two to start a trend, and we can be The Pair.

Maybe we'll make FAshion Week news....

Giggle!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Bottom line, there's having differing opinions, like we did with the sports equipment, and then there is just flat out trying to rewrite history. Rewriting history is never going to fly here.

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Bingo. Another thing people have debated quite a bit is whether these kids should stay in this school like Kate wants, or go to public school. I'm not putting this out there to reopen the debate, but rather to demonstrate that we have disagreed very strongly about that but it's not personal and people don't usually get upset. And that is a pretty controversial area, and yet we still managed to be nice. However if someone came in and started saying you're a poo poo head for sending your kids to that school (we have some parents of the school here), I'm sure the reaction would have been much different.

Ex Nurse said...

Silimom said...
Admin, we will have to respectfully agree to disagree on this one because I don't think it's apples and oranges. 
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Sorry to everyone for my frequent posts on this--feel free to skip! I am reading through several pages of comments, and responding as I go. 

I agree with admin's pples and oranges comments and I feel that I need to at least have my point of view heard.  My motivation in posting is a far cry from Kate's grifting and her careless tossing out little tidbits of information in hopes of attracting a sponsor. 

For anyone interested:

Here is a link to the article on the National Institute of Health website (government agency) that presents the study and the conclusions in technical detail.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328957/

Here is a website that summarizes the same study in laymen's terms:

http://www.frontiersin.org/Sleep_and_Chronobiology/10.3389/fneur.2012.00061/full

I originally posted that I had heard about glycine on the Dr. Oz show, where this study was described by a sleep doctor. I also read that study before trying it for myself. I have suffered from severe insomnia for 15 years, had extensive surgery and have been taking a prescription sleep aid for 10 years. I have had multiple sleep studies which show that in order for me to get the required hours of deep restorative sleep, I need between 9-11 hours of sleep.

Given that the powder is 100% amino acid, which is found in food, and that Dr. Oz vetted this study for his show and enthusiastically recommended this as a treatment for insomnia,  I felt on pretty safe ground recommending this to someone who asked for some suggestions.  

In the world of sleep-deprived insomniacs, the results of the Japanese study, are not just impressive--they are life-changing. Sleep deprivation is a serious health problem, which can result in illness, death and accidents. Glycine is much safer than my prescription med which has all kinds of reported side effects,  is food-based, is more effective in providing restorative sleep in fewer hours, does not cause a 'hangover' the following day and costs a fraction of my prescription medication ($250/month out of pocket after insurance. Glycine has cut my out-of-pocket to $105/month (my insurance only covers a fraction of a 14 day supply). 

The scanty citation of the study on the internet is because there is no profit for pharmaceutical companies --100% glycine powder is widely available in bulk and very cheap. Doctors are not yet aware because no one is dropping off samples or giving incentives for prescribing. 

You make a very good point that there should be proper disclaimers, but, I pretty much said all of this in my original posts. However, with new people trying it out, I think it is good to revisit this information so that everyone can decide for themselves. As Kate so wisely says--Lesson learned! Will be sure to put all of the proper disclaimers on future posts. 

anger issues kate said...

I only will say this about politics. Know what both parties plans are(educate yourself, not just what the ads on TV are saying, these are usually mudslinging ads) and how the plans/issues will affect you and your family. Then choose, who you will vote for. And there is nothing or no one who can tell you how to vote. Not even if you belong to a family that has voted one party for decades, vote how you feel, about the issues. But do vote.

Ok, off the soap box.

Anonymous said...

Fleecing,

my daughter was under the care of a pediatrician and she didnt eat only peanut butter, that was the only sandwich I could send to her with school. Long story. She was a finicky eater- very much so. I was taught to not force feed and kids will eat when they are hungry- well not my kid- she just would not eat. She stopped gaining weight at 6 months old and didnt gain an ounce for over 8 months. It was scary. So I had to feed her anything she would eat. PERIOD. She didnt drink milk. Can you imagine a baby that doesnt drink milk? She was finicky. I had few options. She loved peanutbutter, so when she went school, I was able to fix her pb&j. Perfect!! And thats the short version.


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Butterfly being the "failure to thrive" victim myself was pretty scary, I cannot imagine being the parent in that situation. Worse yet, some perfectly decent parents end up having child abuse charges filed against them when all they want to do is just make sure their baby lives. In CA we have a statute for the "willful withholding of food" and since it's hard to prove, a lot of times parents will end up in court, and questions are asked later. I hope your "peanut" :) is doing well today, yes?

readerlady said...

Admin -- I think it's more the "least restrictive environment" kind of thing. I can tell you that, no, you can't get SS disability for it. Or shouldn't be able to. You can apply, but you'd be denied, although there's no telling what an ALJ will do if an appeal gets that far. I saw a case once of a 19 year old who was granted disability by an ALJ because he had a plantar wart on the bottom of his foot. The ALJ granted his disability claim on the grounds that he had foot pain and therefor couldn't walk.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

"Perfect and fancy..." I guess Anonymous has not heard about my crocs and socks attire."

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Or my flowered muumuu and pink sponge curlers in my hair! I guess Anonymous somehow missed our last party!

"Also when I nose thumb I like to have a toothpick between my teeth."

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Admin - Mint or cherry flavored?

By the way, I'm going to have some REAL Rumspringas tomorrow at the brewery, but I don't think I'll ask for an olive. They might think I'm a stuck-up nose-thumber!

readerlady said...

Butterfly -- If I haven't said it recently, thank you for what you do and for the sacrifices you make to keep us safe. God bless.

readerlady said...

Oh, and P.S. Butterfly, I still wanna know who the guy is in your avatar. He looks familiar but I can't place him, and it's driving me NUTS (or is that nuttier, LOL)!

AuntieAnn said...

Moose Mania said... 193
Do you have enough to open your own store, or at least have a profitable garage sale?
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Moose - No, not at all. And I've found with the amount of work it takes to put on a garage sale, it just isn't worth it anymore. Sometimes I'll give things to other's garage sales or give to theSalvation Army. I'm a just kitchen gadget junkie, not gadgets for everything . I like homey but I hate clutter. I've gotten rid of dumb little appliances like the sandwich maker, the muffin maker, the George Foreman lean machine and other things I dont' use. Some of them are completely useless and a waste of money IMO.
(Sorry if that sounded superior Anony, I can't phucking help it)

Dmasy - the image in my head of your crocks and socks cracks me up every time!

fidosmommy said...

readerlady said... 78
Oh, and P.S. Butterfly, I still wanna know who the guy is in your avatar. He looks familiar but I can't place him, and it's driving me NUTS (or is that nuttier, LOL)!

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Think NYC. Think hair.

Anonymous said...

@ Readerlady...I believe that's Ted Gibson in Butterfly's avatar. You know, the hair guy that Kate goes to (or at least the owner of the salon).

readerlady said...

Duh! (Slaps hand to forehead) Of course, Ted Gibson! I don't watch "What Not To Wear" a lot, but I've seen him on episodes of that show. Thanks fidosmommy and Neighbor. Now I can sleep peacefully, LOL!

Rainbirdie said...

I have learned first hand that food allergies can develop in adults without warning. Happened to me recently with sesame. Out of the blue. One tasty little sesame seed on a bun or bagel turns my body into a mess of quarter size hives. Last week I broke out from hands to elbows & feet to knees...looked like I had the plague for 3 days. Finally dawned on me that there must have been sesame oil in the lotion when I had a mani/pedi. Never even thought to ask about that..I always carry benedryl & an Epi-Pen, just in case.

meagler said...

First check in of the day, havent read every post, but it looks like the blog has busy here today...

as for the peanut allergy, or other allergy.. IMO.. in the lower grades of elementary school I think there should be lunch restrictions ( such as no peanuts, or whatever the allergin is) as young children are still learning what it is all about and how to manage their allergies, but as you reach grades 7-8 and def in highschool, I think Allergen sensitive might be a better option. The local highschool here does that and what it means is, try to be sensitive and dont be spreading your peanut butter sandwich all over the table the chairs, etc, and maybe dont bring peanuts in the shell and leave the shells all over the floors, etc.

As for kates school lunches.. I have no issue with it, those kids have a long ride in am and in pm, so they need the extra snacks.. never any yogurt or milk, but then I never see any ice packs either, or hot foods in thermos.

However, to save even more money, kate could buy re-usable small drink bottles and fill them up with juice made from concentrate. Here each frozen juice is approx 93 cents and 2 a day should do it for her to give the 8 enough juice equal the 2 juice boxes. With 8 kids and 2 juice boxes that 16 boxes a day = 2.5 packages ( +1) of minute maid juice boxes, which is approx $3.50 here for a 10 pack so in total= $5.25 a day for juice. My way would be a savings of $3.25 a day, plus less junk in the landfill... OR, send them with frozen water to act as a cool pack, and then nice icy cold water by lunch!!!

Hmm lets see how long before that starts to happen!! Kate would also do well to grift larger bags of popchips and break them into smaller portions into reusable containers, and she can make her own granola bars, and muffins...

Celery is also quite cheap, and so i Peanut butter, so to speak, she would do well to increase the celery, more fiber, less cost, and might not have to use so much TP in the house!!

Anyways, my 2 cents...

Oh one more thot... the money saved on the juice would be $8 per child per month. Would that be enough for each child to buy a lunch at school as a special treat once a month?? And if she sent water, that would free up another $5 per kid per month, they could maybe have 2 lunches at school per month...again considering she is making 20 lunches per kid per month, but that likely isnt happening as I feel Jon has the kids quite a bit.. but still she would be saving money..

meagler said...

My post above should have said 1.5 packages of minute maid juice boxes, but the price and calculations stay the same. 10 pack of juice boxes is $3.50.

fidosmommy said...

The JuicyJuice used to be free. She'd pick up
cartons of it at FedEx. But that might have been the 64oz. bottles, not juice boxes.

meagler said...

AND..... tomato makes the bread soggy!

AND..... as a busy mom, her kids are old enough to eat the fruit whole without cutting it up into smaller pieces! Just wash it! If she is only giving each 1/2 of a piece of fruit, wash and cut in half, rub cut side with a bit of lemon juice. Much faster!

Lauren said...

Admin- From my original post #50:The two "sheeple" on the previous post who answered the questions that have been asked of them were treated terribly, in my opinion.
Wayward - I know the posters from Saturday said some things that made me shake my head at the fact that they can see no wrong where Kate is concerned, but I didn't look at it as they were stupid or juvenile, just that they had a different opinion. I don't think Kate is an unfit mother, but I don't agree with the way she chooses to raise her kids. I do worry about the way she treats them mentally and I think they will probably be in need of some therapy in the future.
My post was not meant to be in defense of Kate, I think she puts herself out there and sets herself up for criticism. I was only trying to state my opinion about the way that specific situation with the people answering questions that have been brought up here was handled.
And by doing that I was accused of being a sheeple (Ingrid #55), a hypocrite (I think that was directed at me)by Fleecing, as if I was the one who posted the comment about the regulars being busybodies, and told by Admin to "give her a break" and that she's highly suspicious of me.
I'm disappointed and frankly it hurts my feelings, but I'm a big girl and I can move on and get over it.
Too bad there's not a way to convey what you mean on boards like this, because I am truly not a Kate fan or a shit stirrer. I usually come home from work, grab something to drink, and log onto this site for a bit of entertainment and winding down time. Now I'm sorry I even spoke up. I probably won't stop reading here, it's become part of my routine, but I'll just stay on the sidelines.

The irony of this is that I just got off the phone with my daughter, she just started her first year of college about an hour away from home. She is having a hard time adjusting and is already talking about coming home. I gave her a pep talk and told her she needs to put herself out there, make an effort to meet people. I asked her what was the worst that could happen? I told her noone will laugh at her or be mean to her if she did something like ask someone if they wanted to go to lunch together or watch a movie or whatever.

Then I stuck my neck out and posted an opposing viewpoint and got called names. :( Live and learn, I guess

Tamara said...

One thing I would love to know from anyone affiliated on a daily, or maybe lunchly, basis is what the Gosselin kids actually have for lunch. Because you know what Khate says and shows is either a flat out lie or made only for the photo. But that is about question number 25 on the list.

meagler said...

Fidosmommy, thanks for the reminder that the Juicy juice was grifted, and she sourced it as recently as Feb 2012 in a CC blog..

"For drinks, we prefer Juicy Juice always, but when that is not available, I hunt down different “all juice” brands at my local discount grocery store. The brand I’m using now cost me only 16 cents for a 10-ounce bottle!"

Note she says " when its not available..." lol..

I keep forgetting Kate's budget includes grifting and advertising sourcing... medicore people like me cant keep up with her budgeting style..now would I want to.

She does budgeting for the rich and not so famous!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lauren, let's start over. I have a suggestion. Let's talk about things that aren't "boards on boards" or your take on how the blog is run, which are things that should be emailed to me, not discussed here.

Chime in on the lunches or Juicy Juice or peanuts or how hot Andersen is. :)

Sweet Tart said...

This is a blog that is premised on the belief that at one time, both Jon & Kate profited by exploiting their children. Jon has publicly stated regret for doing so & now makes every effort to give the children a normal, "mediocre" life away from cameras. Kate continues to make her childrens' lives public and use them to score freebies. Anyone who is a fan of Kate yet chooses to post here should not then whine when other posters discuss the folly and faultiness of their many excuses for one of this generations worst mothers (and all around lazy, shallow, grasping human being).

LancasterCountyMom said...

Parent in Lancaster County said: "By the way, I'm going to have some REAL Rumspringas tomorrow at the brewery, but I don't think I'll ask for an olive. They might think I'm a stuck-up nose-thumber!"

LOL, did I get you started on something?? (I'll have to try to get there sometime!)

Dmasy said...

Lauren, I was talking to a friend of mine today. She took her son to college a few states away. He is doing great and she is a "mess" (her word). It has been difficult for her to go to work she is so depressed.

You are giving your daughter sound advice. I hope I helped my friend today.

meagler said...

Those disposable ramikins, or whatever she called them, and the disposable coffee cups, can be purchased in my town in a grocery whole sale store. I dont know anything about a restaurant supplier store, but I know many stores/restaurants do purchase from the grocery wholesale, no membership required.

The ramikins would be big enough to hold about 15 cocktail peanuts or a nice jello shooter, which I can bring to the next Par-tay!!!!

The coffee cup are foam ( great for the environment -said tongue in cheek) and come with those white sippy tops, and usually are brown. I see them used for take out in smaller family run restaurants.

Here, re-usable go cups are for the mediocre. I see also, that many, many people spend a lot of time and money lining up to get their daily Jo x many at the local Tim Hortons or Star Bucks. Me, I can not be bothered to spend the time or the money, and as my friends know, I think I make the best Jo at home!! I am not brand loyal!

Parent In Lancaster County said...


LOL, did I get you started on something?? (I'll have to try to get there sometime!)

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Yes. It's all your fault. I did go there and I'm going back. That Rumspringa is great on these hot days! I knew the wine gallery was on the lower level, but I didn't know about the brewery. Thanks!

"One thing I would love to know from anyone affiliated on a daily, or maybe lunchly, basis is what the Gosselin kids actually have for lunch"

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Do you mean at school? I would consider that to be bordering on stalking. Discussing what they eat at school is off limits. I can't imagine why she would show something packed for lunch, and then turn around and pack something entirely different.

"And by doing that I was accused of being a sheeple (Ingrid #55), a hypocrite (I think that was directed at me)by Fleecing"

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I went back and read that, and Fleecing the Sheeple did not accuse you of being a hypocrite. Her comment was directed at Anonymous who called posters here busybodies. She said nothing about you, or to you, Lauren.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

mycrazylife2
@Kateplusmy8 Any tips of getting more sleep? I can't ever fall asleep till after 12 & wake up at 5-5:30. I never have energy & always tired!


Read Kate's blog. That should put you to sleep in no time.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous. -
And I've seen and heard enough from the posters here to conclude that there are varying levels of education and intelligence in the mix. Further, there is an abundance of evidence supporting my belief that the group, in general, is filled with busybody women who in real life are types to thumb their noses at other women who aren't as perfect as they fancy themselves to be. I believe that to be an accurate assessment and won't apologize for it.
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We have seen and heard and ample evidence to support our hypothesis that sheeple are lacking on the uptake and therefore in general, sheeple are clueless. Probability exists that the drive-bys will continue. No one example drew us to this conclusion. Rather a plethora of examples led to the reasonable accurate assessment that sheeple, in general, are not he sharpest knives in the block.

I do understand their jealousy of my 1980's era heirloom faux ultra suede brown Lazy-Boy recliner/spaceship.

meagler said...

Count the sheeple... backwards....lol... speaking of which, I am off to sleep, have good nite everyone..

Whens the next Par-tay?? I am craving jello shooters now!

Greedy Gosselins said...

I learned something in therapy today. Bear with me.

A little kindness goes a long way.

Does anyone remember how that poor poster felt that said she didn't wash her swimsuits each time they were used? Or something like that? She was made out to be a horrible mom. That made me sad.

There are ways to inform wihtout the condescension and name calling.

Anonymous said...

A person with the last name of Beer is running for county recorder here. The yard signs say VOTE BEER! DH says, Yes! Don't know him or what his platform is but by golly he's got my vote.

My contribution to the political talk.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

As I recall actually people were actually extremely concerned for that "poor poster." Urinary tract infections and the like were mentioned and she just got more and more vile and defensive.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Read Kate's blog. That should put you to sleep in no time.

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Do they sell Shrew Sticks?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Lauren said, ""And by doing that I was accused of being a sheeple (Ingrid #55), a hypocrite (I think that was directed at me)by Fleecing""

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As far as I can tell, Ingrid didn't accuse you of being a sheeple. She was referring to the post (quoted by Admin) that was made by the anonymous person's comment about superiority, thus saying that all indications point to her as being a sheeple, not you.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

As I recall actually people were actually extremely concerned for that "poor poster." Urinary tract infections and the like were mentioned and she just got more and more vile and defensive.

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Yes! I was just going to post that. I remember that people actually directed her to sites that pointed out how frequently infections can occur if swimwear is never washed, which is what this poster had said.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

If anyone is in the path of the hurricane, be safe! It's reported that 274,000 people in Louisiana are without power, and Isaac will make a direct hit on Baton Rouge into tomorrow, with 27 inches of rain forecast in the area.

"Do they sell Shrew Sticks?"

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Most likely, but before you can use them you have to remove the other stick.

Greedy Gosselins said...

That was a snotty response in my opinion, admin. Perhpas it wasn't intended to be?

I also learned today that voicing my opinion, in a kind way, is safe.

I'm sure the meaning of the word safe has a different context for me. ;)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What was snotty about that??? Really, Greedy?

Greedy Gosselins said...

Forgive me. I'm 'overly sensitive' or so my therapist tells me. LOL

Heide said...

Regarding Ex-Nurse mentioning the glycine - when I read about the glycine, I in no way thought I should go right out and buy it. I thought "Oh - that sounds interesting. I think I'll look into that." So I did and after I did my own research that satisfied me, including asking my doctor about it, I bought some and tried it and liked it. Then I posted here about my positive experience with it.

I took Ex-Nurse's information to be just that, information. I really appreciated her posting the information because it ended up helping me after I made the decision to try it.

I usually watch Dr. Oz too, but somehow I missed the glycine discussion on his show.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Just for the record, Lauren. My comment was NOT directed at you. I'm sorry that you thought it was. I was talking about the anonymous poster who jumped on here with her "superiority" tirade. In my opinion, it was hypocritical of that person to make accusations against posters here and then that same poster turns around and calls the posters here busy bodies who thumb their noses because of their perfect life.

I think that for the most part, posters here are respectful to others when they disagree, but when someone makes accusations like that, it's hard to ignore them. Is it best to ignore them? Of course, but sometimes when a poster is a nasty troll, it's human nature to retaliate. You give as good as you get. If someone behaves that way they can't expect to hurl insult after insult and not be called out for it.

Call Me Crazy said...

Hi Lauren. I am going to weigh in here since it seems that it was my questions the other evening that started your upset. I believe I was very respectful in my responses to the one poster's answers. I appreciated that she took the time to answer my questions candidly. I completely missed that another poster had answered my questions as well, so any lack of response to her on my part was not intended as a slight.

I had posted my questions in complete sincerity AFTER the rogue Kate fans had made some very nasty remarks. It is possible you didn't see their original comments because Admin tries to clean up those droppings fairly quickly when things start to get out of hand.

I have never visited a Kate fan site. I have absolutely no interest in ever visiting such a site, nor posting nasty remarks to the people there. I have no idea what they gain from coming here. I have no patience or sympathy for those Kate fans who come here intending to stir up trouble. If they choose to post nasty things, then they are asking for snark in return.

I'm sorry if you feel hurt at some comments you thought were directed at you. I have seen a few instances where posters were accused of being sheeple because they expressed a differing opinion about something, but that is not the norm. There are plenty of disagreements on this blog, but as long as people make their points respectfully, all is well.

On another note, I hope your daughter is able to adjust to college life. It can be so hard for so many reasons. It is a terrible feeling when you know your child is having a hard time and there is nothing you can do but lend an ear and say some supportive words. Hopefully she will start making some friends, and everything will get better.

SisterMediocre said...

While I don't think we are "superior" to the women and teenagers who support Kate, I do think we are funnier, friendlier and think the reason the fan blogs (ha ha) are dead is because even the sheeple realize how toxic some of the fan blog owners can be.

grandee4 said...

Hi everyone, just lurking for a while tonight as Hurricane Isaac pays a visit and now decided to hang around a little longer. Cannot believe it's happening again and on the 7th anniversay of Katrina. Not as bad as they were forcasting. Phew!
Anyway, love reading here Ya'll have helped me keep my mind occupied. Can someone tell me how to get the newest post to come up first? Having to use an older computer because my other is being repaired.
Any help will be appreciated.

Dwindle said...

Permanent Name in Blue said... 61
Oh Admin.......

Anderson Cooper is cute wet, dry, upside down and backwards!!!
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 6

Yes. Yes he is. I bet it was the producer's idea to have him standing right under the torrent of water pouring off the porch he is on instead of under cover. LOL, why??? Well because he's so cute standing in a shower of water of course.


:) :) :) :) :)

Ok, Ladies. It is 5AM and I havent slept yet so I admit I am not up to my usual superior self, but ummm... honestly?... what books are you reading or kegs are you imbibing from? Dearest AC being talked about as upside down and backwards and standing in a shower... and then under covers...


Is it getting warm in here or is it just me? woo.

Dwindle said...

grandee4 said... 115
Hi everyone, just lurking for a while tonight as Hurricane Isaac pays a visit and now decided to hang around a little longer. Cannot believe it's happening again and on the 7th anniversay of Katrina. Not as bad as they were forcasting. Phew!
Anyway, love reading here Ya'll have helped me keep my mind occupied. Can someone tell me how to get the newest post to come up first? Having to use an older computer because my other is being repaired.
Any help will be appreciated.
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So glad you posted and that you sound safe? I have memories of being a kid in Miami and sitting up all night listening to a hurricane.

I will have to let someone else reply to your Q about being notified of a new thread, coz I dont know. I just stumble on them.

Dwindle said...

Flight of the Kiwi said... 99

I do understand their jealousy of my 1980's era heirloom faux ultra suede brown Lazy-Boy recliner/spaceship
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Havent slept and getting giddy here, but THAT is laugh out loud funny!!!!

amyf said...

To Foxy (back on page 5) - I'm glad you checked out the blog by Robin Ellis. I think it's SO well done! Just so you know, Robin Ellis is a he, not a she. :-)

Dwindle said...

For residents of of Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, and Maryland: I just found out yesterday that Giant Eagle Supermarkets is now accepting all competitors coupons, ie Walmart, CVS, etc. They will not be doubled, as plain manufacturers coupons are, and must be for $ off, not a percentage.

This is good news for me, as I find alot of coupons that specify a particular store on them. YAY!

Anonymous said...

Hi Lauren, the same thing happened to me on this board so I stopped posting for a while, changed my name and post sparingly. I like to read the blog every so often because I do think some of the posters are funny but there really is a lack of tolerance of other views. Some of the regular posters tend to label people based on one or two comments that they don't agree with. Or will dismiss you by saying, "the poster isn't one of the regulars and is probably a sheeple in disguise." I don't get it but a few have taken ownership of the blog. Seems strange that someone would invest that much energy in to Kate Gosselin, but some are more let's say "enthusiastic" than others in that regard.

Charlie said...

Anonymous 121,
Oh FFS, read, don't read, comment, don't comment, pull up your big girl panties and get over it. It's not a "club" here that you are being excluded from, it's a bunch of people that have something to say. If you have something to say, then say it. If you don't, don't. People who need their hands held are tiresome. Peace.

Anonymous said...

Observation of the Morning:
Kate is beginning to prove just how mediocre her life has become through her tweets with her twits.

It's rather interesting to watch the rapid decline of someone who put herself on a pedestal.

Dwindle said...

Berks Neighbor said... 125
Observation of the Morning:
Kate is beginning to prove just how mediocre her life has become through her tweets with her twits.

It's rather interesting to watch the rapid decline of someone who put herself on a pedestal.
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Superior minds think alike.

Several weeks ago something changed. She started being less snippy with her tweet folks and even replied to them a bit more. It was different than her usual, and felt off somehow.

Now, something is wrong. It's plain. She is trying way too hard but I am not sure what her end goal is this time. She is becoming a parody of herself and the dancing children happily squealing with screeches of grateful delight ALL THE TIME sounds like she is deliberatly making a joke.

But I agree with you. Berks. I think she is psychologically decompensating again. I think what we are seeing is the progression of her mental illness. Something will snap; another twitter war with someone, some manic tantrum, something. She is in desperate need of a lashing out at someone, kind of like the pressure cookers we are waiting for her to discover and grift.

Have the kids been back to school for a week yet? Isnt it time for her to leave town for a week of MEEEE time? She hasnt had a vacation in three weeks, she must be stir crazy by now.

Dwindle said...

Berks Neighbor said... 125
Observation of the Morning:
Kate is beginning to prove just how mediocre her life has become through her tweets with her twits.

It's rather interesting to watch the rapid decline of someone who put herself on a pedestal

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Although, you may be merely referring to her faux 'career' aspirations, and I am talking about her mental health.

I need sleep.

KAT said...

When is she supposed to do all of those mrathons...I thought they were one after the other? I even wonder if she's still running...only because she hasn't mentioned it in quite a while...It seems like all she's talking about is baking, cooking, meals, meat slicers and anything related to food...still throwing things at the wall to see what will stick?

KAT said...

Why is her head clogged? I thought she was taking Zicam...the wonder drug..

Berks Resident said...

You make a very good point that there should be proper disclaimers, but, I pretty much said all of this in my original posts. However, with new people trying it out, I think it is good to revisit this information so that everyone can decide for themselves. As Kate so wisely says--Lesson learned! Will be sure to put all of the proper disclaimers on future posts.
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Ex-Nurse, we are all grown ups here. Why in heaven's name would you be expected to post a disclaimer on glycine? I just experienced my second night of restful slumber and if you were near me I'd be hugging you right now.

I didn't buy it right out of the gate, I waited for others to try it and listened for their success. It's much like attending a cocktail party and having someone say "I tried xxxxxx and it really worked for me!" You were not trying to sell it to us. Just wanted you to know from the bottom of my heart I thank you.

Regarding those in the path of Hurricane Isaac, my prayers are with you all. Stay safe, hugs.

I love Anderson Cooper, he is adorable.

In the last book I read, the mother makes Tuscan Lemon Chicken for her daughter, it is her favorite. Going to stop and get some lemons and make that tonight!

I'm off to decorate my classroom in a few short minutes. I bought some really cute material, and even though I can't sew a lick, I am going to use that irony on stuff to make the hems. See everyone a little later and as Ellen says, be kind to one another.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Despite my head clog, my kids danced off to school happily:).It'll be a slow morning,but I'll get it all done!:) Moms 'Deli' is closed 2day! 34 minutes ago
This momma with a cold has to go to sleep so I can face the early morning filled w kids, breakfasts,back packs,shoes and school busses! GN! about 10 hours ago
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bus/buses. (UGH!)

Hey @ZICAM, Kate has a head clog! Send more freebies!

Winsomeone said...


"I have a question for you- those kids will have to go out in the world and get jobs and the workplace will not restrict food types- what then? It's nice for you to take them into consideration, but the big wide world isn't going to. They need to learn to adapt their surroundings. I work with a guy with a peanut allergy. We were in language class together. He carries an epi-pen. He never once told any of us to restrict the food types we brought into the class. If it's that's serious for children, maybe they need to be separated for eating while they are young and taught how to manage their allergies. I am not trying to be mean to these kids at all- just realistic- they will eventually be expected to go out in the world, and peanut butter is extraordinarily popular. They will come across it in life- guaranteed.
Anyway, like I said, nice of you to consider them."

I feel the same way. Plus what about kids who can't have any contact sports, etc, due to bleeding problems or a transplant..the school doesn't stop recess and gym classes because of them. Then there are the diabetic kids and ones allergic to gluten..nothing special is done for them.

Anonymous said...

Dwindle... <3 :-D

Once a Viewer said...

Kate is sure complaining about her cold! I guess Zicam didn't cure her, although it gives her an excuse to 'close the deli' today. I guess she'll need bed rest.

Ex-nurse: I appreciated your Glycine info more than I can say, and your going over it several times,but like anyone else with half a brain, I also looked it up & read about it to see if it was something i could safely use.

I still don't get how Heide only pays $9/month for hers although she takes capsules?

NJGal51 said...

Despite my head clog, my kids danced off to school happily
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DESPITE your head clog? What does one have to do with the other? Maybe they were happy to get out of the path of hurricane Kate! Guess that @Ziacam didn't work out so well for you. Bettr try some @alkaseltzerplus.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Once a Viewer said... 134 I still don't get how Heide only pays $9/month for hers although she takes capsules?
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http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Glycine-Capsules-100-Count/dp/B002J0RHTQ

Once a Viewer said...

Tweet: Thanks for the link. I wonder why the price difference between powder & capsules? I am scared to switch ,as i posted yesterday that my b-in-l is a dr & claimed capsules are less effective... Couldn't hurt to try for $9 !

You guys are all so great in sharing info & ideas. :)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

You're welcome, Once a Viewer. I haven't done a price comparison yet(was up veeeery early-couldn't sleep) and think I'll go to bed instead and run a comparison later and then order either capsules or powder. If capsules are less effective I guess powder is the way to go.

SG said...

Did anyone notice that yesterday Kate replied directly to a blocked "hater" not realizing who they were?

She claims she doesn't read, or even see, the tweets of her non-fans, yet she replied directly to someone that she actually blocked already.

In order for her to do that she had to go looking for tweets by people that are blocked, otherwise she would just read the tweets on her main Mentions/Connect page.

So yes, Kate does go out of her way to read ALL the tweets about her knowing she will see tweets by people she has blocked. I already knew that, but this proves it.

Once a Viewer said...

Tweet: Well,that's just my b-in-l's opinion. I gather Glycine is fairly new in its use for insomnia. His theory is that the gelatin in the capsule takes a while to dissolve so it would take longer for the contents to get into your system and thus help you fall asleep but the reviews on Amazon for caps are good and Heide said they work for her- maybe try both and compare? I might do that. Good luck!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Once, how much do you take in mg. per night?

foxy said...

Hi Amyf...I don't know why I said she in regards to Robin Ellis. Maybe because I have a female neighbor that looks just like him. I also read his blog about his acting career and the cookbooks he has written.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate is beginning to prove just how mediocre her life has become through her tweets with her twits.

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I know. I'm really noticing, not that this hasn't been the case all along, that she does absolutely NOTHING interesting with these kids. There is no opportunity for blog fodder. You never see a tweet where she says, went on a hike today and Aaden found this cute little ladybug (pic). Or girls and I rode the bikes to the lake and had a flat tire oh my! We all got together and fixed that baby! Girl power!

No, it's always we got up, I made lunches, kids went to school, we had a movie night, we went to bed. The sheer inertia. Poor kids. Most Mommy blogs have so much more blog fodder going on all the time.



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Some of the regular posters tend to label people based on one or two comments that they don't agree with.

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Maybe you would fit in better if you didn't in your same post call people here "strange" or break rule 1. I'll never get these posts where people are complaining they don't fit in, only to insult the people here in the very next breath. Huh, maybe that's why you don't fit in. This is a very welcoming group to those who are respectful and don't whine.

KAT said...

SG@139....I don't know much about twitter except for reading over there once in a while but I always thought she looked at the haters tweets. I mean I know I don't think I could resist it if things were being said about me..Then again I don't see how she can stand the constant insults. I would be devastated...this proves there is something wrong with her mental state....no sane person could withstand that abuse. Every time she opens her stupid mouth or posts one of those dopey pictures...she just opens herself up to the disgust people feel towards her. All because she has no other outlet to show people her "talents"... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Once a Viewer said...

3000 mg- one stick, or would be 3 (1000 mg) of the capsules.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I happen to agree with Charlie frankly.

It's just a blog. It's not a support group. It's not therapy. We don't hold your hand. We don't coddle you. We don't break out the good china for you. Usually. We do ask that you simply follow the rules. All of the rules, including not posting anonymously or insulting the people here. Kate's County may have time to get you a Rumspringa after the kids are tucked in but for heaven sake, and everyone is always invited to any parties, but what else do you want from the folks here? :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Grandee do you mean how to get the newest blog post or the newest comment?

To get the newest comment you have to click on "newest" at the bottom of the comment page. To get the newest post the easiest thing to do is just click on the main banner with the caricaturesof Kate and Jon.

Stay safe down there! Send Andersen my love!

AuntieAnn said...

RT @bullyville People who gossip w/ you, will gossip about you. NO X OR CARE 2DO THIS! NVR HAVE! RATHER MAKE WORLD BTTR BY WORKING HARD! U? less than a minute ago
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Working hard, Kate? At what, begging for handouts? Please explain how grifting your way through life makes the world a better place?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Berks Neighbor said... 125
Observation of the Morning:
Kate is beginning to prove just how mediocre her life has become through her tweets with her twits.

It's rather interesting to watch the rapid decline of someone who put herself on a pedestal
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Funny isn't it?

She was calling every normal hard working person w/o a reality show mediocre.

And now she's grifting stuff off twitter cause she can't get any type of show.-lol

Who mediocre now Kate??

Tucker's Mom said...

What is it about hurricanes and our need to see someone getting pelted by rain?! I get it, it's really windy!
This morning Al Roker was reporting from New Orleans and he was huddled with another reporter just trying to stand up. It's like, really? Dude, get inside before a Stop sign wacks you in the head!!
I don't tweet but I'd love for someone to ask what Kate's definition of "organic" is. She says bagels are one of the last things that will go organic at home, yet we see time and again that she cooks with cans and boxes all the time.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
RT @bullyville People who gossip w/ you, will gossip about you. NO X OR CARE 2DO THIS! NVR HAVE! RATHER MAKE WORLD BTTR BY WORKING HARD! U?
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what is the point of her re-twettng this?

1. People aren't gossiping about you Kate.
-if it's the truth.
2. IN what why are you making the world a better place??

thankyoufairy said...

Count me in with the people who don't mind peanut restrictions. The peanut protein that triggers the allergy can be very difficult to keep off of common classroom surfaces and best precautions on the part of the individual with the allergy don't always prevent accidental exposure. I carry the epi-pen. My last accidental exposure to shellfish happened at a work potluck when I ate a piece of cornbread. Yes, cornbread. It had crawfish in it and I didn't know it until after I tried it. My husband had to pick me up from work and carry me to the emergency room to get treat angioedema. I don't consider my allergies severe and I don't ask others to accommodate me, but it does get frightening some times. I tell people all the time that I carry and epipen and I'm allergic to seafood and fish, but they forget and suggest that I try all sorts of seafood dishes. It might not occur to them to tell me of unexpected ingredients. Now I ask every time and while I might seem like a pain, I realize I have to in order to stay healthy.

As far as the hardship of eliminating peanut butter from the lunch box, I don't necessarily find it a big deal, probably because my son hates peanut butter and I packed years worth of peanut-butter free lunches on a budget anyway.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Can I theorize about the sheeple blogs being dead?

For most of them, there were a LOT of blogs on blogs going on. By that I mean they would talk constantly about this blog and other "hater" blogs, do posts on this blog, do posts on me trying to prove whatever ridiculous point they had. I really think people get tired of that after awhile. When a blog is just about another blog, how far can you really take that conversation? Apparently, not far at all.

If you read the rules of any successful blog, they almost never allow you to talk about other blogs on their site, or even, their site on the site. This is why I always say when people are discussing the posters here, the posting trends, whether they feel welcome or not, what they think I should post, to please EMAIL IT TO ME OFF SITE. While we talk about Kate's fans in general I have never in three years let people specifically call out blogs or blog owners here.

Here is a snippet from TWOP's rule: "We ask you not to discuss the boards on the boards because this is a site about television, and the discussion should remain about television -- or about something of substance. Once the discussion starts being about the site and each other, it's very easy for the site to slide into irrelevance. We also ask that you not discuss other boards on our boards. You may certainly link to them, but conversations taking place on other sites should not become the foreground of the discussion on TWoP."

I've always thought that was a great rule. And I think that's partly why the sheeple blogs are gone. Her fans became just as irrelevant as Kate. That and Kate has so few fans left to sustain a community.

Tucker's Mom said...

@MiloandJack I know... I know.... Same stuff happening its just not recorded for you to see :( about 12 hours ago
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Kate's kids finally have some degree of privacy and this is a sad thing? She's so sick it's not funny sometimes. To think that those kids need to be on the boob tube is nuts. They need privacy and normalcy. They do not need their face plastered everywhere.
You just know that if given the opportunity, she would have filmed those kids until the very moment they could escape the compound. Every weekend, every day they are in her custody and would have continued to pull them out of school.

Mel said...

Plus what about kids who can't have any contact sports, etc, due to bleeding problems or a transplant..the school doesn't stop recess and gym classes because of them. Then there are the diabetic kids and ones allergic to gluten..nothing special is done for them.

To some degree it does seem like banning all peanut products is overkill, but on the other hand, some of the problems mentioned above aren't something that is going to get worse due to something in the air either.

As in, if another kid leaves a hand-print of sugar on a book, the diabetic kid doesn't get a life-threatening event from it. Peanut dust in the air doesn't cause the hemophelia to become life threatening.

But still, if your kid is that sensitive to peanuts, maybe a public environment isn't the best situation for him/her. Maybe time to consider home-schooling, or some other arrangement where he/she can be more safe?

Same with other diseases. If the kid is that sensitive to whatever it is, and knowing that you can't control every single thing about an environment, maybe being out in public (school or otherwise) isn't the best idea.

Not knowing anything much about peanut allergies....how do you handle other environments, like going to the dentist or dr's office, where the kid in the waiting room chair before you had just had a bag of peanuts? Or getting gas and the person using the pump before you had just eaten peanuts?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

RATHER MAKE WORLD BTTR BY WORKING HARD

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The only area I see Kate has really made the world better if for subsequent families of multiples. It seems every time there is a multiple birth they are asked would they do a reality show like the Gosselins. And every time the family acts horrified and says oh God no never we don't want to end up like the Gosslines!

So yes Kate you did make the world a better place by working hard to exploit your kids which caused other families to say, HELL NO.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kate's kids finally have some degree of privacy and this is a sad thing?


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It drives me crazy that when they bemoan how they never get to see the kids on TV anymore no one ever, ever thinks to say oh and by the way I'd love to see your kids back on T.V. but only if that's what THEY want. Never once.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Let's Throw Tomatoes are you out there somewhere and hanging in there??? I know you've had a rough week with the death of your friend. I'd like to send your Farmer's Wife DVD out to you that you won, or if you are passing, redraw to give it to someone else.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

@gypsi001 I'd rather cook my fingers2the bone than clean!Love CLEAN&do it daily but takes a helper 2 accomplish here. I hv 8 tornadoes! less than a minute ago

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Hey sheeple, she finally admitted she has a housekeeper. But of course this person doesn't get the respect of actually calling them a housekeeper, they are just a "helper." I hate when she says that, like they are just some teenage kid lending a few hours of their time after school for pocket change, and not a paid adult and employee whose career is housekeeping (or nannying, or being your assistant, or wiping your butt, or what have you).

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate loves to cook but not clean. Shocking.
How these sheeple worship Kate! She admits to help. Doesn't scrub toilets, doesn't mow the lawn. Nothing. Yet, they think she's got so much energy!!
Duh.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I give her credit for at least admitting she has hired help but when will her fans snap out of it.

She does not do everything all by her single mom self. People do it for her, people have always done it for her. Before the hired help Jon did it for her, and before that, I suspect her parents probably did.

And just so Kate knows, many families with a lot of kids and a big house do it all by themselves. That means the cleaning, the whole house, by themselves.

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I give her credit for at least admitting she has hired help but when will her fans snap out of it.

She does not do everything all by her single mom self. People do it for her, people have always done it for her. Before the hired help Jon did it for her, and before that, I suspect her parents probably did.

And just so Kate knows, many families with a lot of kids and a big house do it all by themselves. That means the cleaning, the whole house, by themselves.

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

@Paige_Kate8fan
@Kateplusmy8 hey! Your surprise came in the mail!!!
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Oh oh, wonder how that's going to make Milo feel? She recently tweeted that Kate does special things for her. I'm sure she thought she was the only one.

AuntieAnn said...

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Guess so (shrugs). Apparently it makes the world a better place.

Dmasy said...

Tucker's Mom...They think she is an inspirational ball of energy even though every day she tells them that she is exhausted. She talks about sleeping to a predictable and boring degree.

And, now she is sick -- again.

How is any of that a testimonial of her "healthy" lifestyle? We will never understand...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Guess so (shrugs). Apparently it makes the world a better place.

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I'll tell you what's not a better place. The colin of anyone who eats her food.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Guess so (shrugs). Apparently it makes the world a better place.

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I'll tell you what's not a better place. The colin of anyone who eats her food.

Mean Girls said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 147
I happen to agree with Charlie frankly.

It's just a blog. It's not a support group. It's not therapy. We don't hold your hand. We don't coddle you. We don't break out the good china for you. Usually. We do ask that you simply follow the rules. All of the rules, including not posting anonymously or insulting the people here. Kate's County may have time to get you a Rumspringa after the kids are tucked in but for heaven sake, and everyone is always invited to any parties, but what else do you want from the folks here? :)

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Charlie's response was mean-spirited and nasty, and yet you agree with it. Where did the OP ask to have her hand held? What the hell does therapy have to do with anything? She simply stated the truth -- "outsiders" whose opinions don't fall squarely in line with the "regulars" are greeted with suspicion and it's pretty much guaranteed that one or more regulars will throw out the "sheeple" label immediately.

Perhaps your defensiveness is because you know it's the truth -- there is an undeniable Mean Girls aspect to this blog.

readerlady said...

Winsomeone 130 -- Actually, something is done for the kids with the types of problems you mention. Kids who can't engage in contact sports or participate in gym classes are excused and alternate activities are provided. Most school districts make arrangements for diabetic children to receive their insulin, test their blood, and receive the appropriate nutrition for their medical needs. Same for children with celiac. Again, the issue is the risk. A child who can't engage in contact sports isn't risking death by watching his/her classmates participate. A child who is diabetic isn't risking death by seeing a classmate eat a chocolate bar. A child who is severely allergic to peanuts is AT RISK OF DEATH by being around peanut products. In my book, life trumps desire any day of the week.

chefsummer #Leh said...

AuntieAnn said... 165
So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Guess so (shrugs). Apparently it makes the world a better place.
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She grifts all day and that's a full time job + running.

That's why Kate is soooo tired + she's on twitter so yeah the world's a better place.

readerlady said...

Tweet and Once a Viewer -- Maybe you could buy the glycine in capsule form, since it's so much cheaper, then open the capsules and put the powder in your drink? Is the contents of the capsule the same as the powder form?

Once a Viewer said...

readerlady said... 172
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Thanks...I was wondering if the caps contain powder or a liquid form? Didn't say on Amazon so I may go to GNC and check it out. When the price is so different it makes me wonder, though. Is it a deal or not?

Sorry to be constantly Glycine-talking !

FYI said...

Mean Girls said... 169

"there is an undeniable Mean Girls aspect to this blog."
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If you should visit any of the pro-Kate blogs, you'll see that most of them spend more time discussing the "haters" than they do Kate. If anything, they define "Mean Girls" to a T. When they can't come up with a reason to praise Kate, they attack the "haters" with a vengeance.

I sometimes wonder if they are Pro-Kate blogs, or just anti-hater blogs.

So if you think that this blog is full of Mean girls-check out the pro-Kate blogs. You'll find plenty of Mean girl over there.


NJGal51 said...

Mean Girls - It's the drive-bys that pop in and out to stir things up. They're very predictable and it seems that they change their name for different posts to agree with themselves and stir the pot even more. The writing style on all the posts is the same as are the opinions they bring over. Let's be realistic, do you really think that 5 or 6 different sheeple are going to jump the fence and land in our pasture all at the same time? Nope, not happening - it's one person that's tired of twitter so pops in here.

Readerlady - I'm with you on the peanut issue. It's just not worth the risk sometimes.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mean Girls, if you express a different opinion of your own you can engage in adult, mature discourse here. But when you come in and finger point, you're just looking to pick a fight.
We don't suffer fools here.

fonferek's glen said...

When I find myself agreeing with a "Mean Girl" it might be time to move on.

Seriously, there have been more posts back and forth between a select few people about glycine than there have been posts about the subject of this particular thread! It's more like a chat room than a forum.

As just one of many faceless people, I find it very hard to follow along these days. I guess KG has become so ridiculous and boring, there probably isn't all that much to talk about anyway.

readerlady said...

In the early days of the show, when I was still more or less a fan, I'd read comments from other fans raving about how KK is such a martyr, caring for all 8, count 'em, 8 kids all by herself. I'd think, "Are you watching the same show I am?", because I'd tune in and I'd see JON bathing the kids, dressing the kids, feeding the kids, GASP - playing with the kids, cuddling the kids, talking to the kids, reorganizing the garage, building a new room for the twins, setting up the kids' swing set, packing the car, etc., all while working a full time job and commuting 2 hours a day round trip while KK either wasn't in the picture at all or stood (or sat) on the sidelines screeching orders. Even absent any other help, KK NEVER did it "all alone". She had more help than most women did around the house. Today is no different. She just has to pay that help now.

SG said...

My daughters both love peanut butter and I love that it's nutritional for them, however, I'm having a hard time with this peanut butter debate regarding elementary schools.

Yes, I understand it can be inconvenient to not be able to feed your kid one of their favorite meals but we are talking about an allergy that can result in DEATH of an innocent child. And not only by direct contact or ingestion of a peanut, but by airborne peanut dust or traces of peanut dust/oil on clothing, equipment, furniture, etc. We aren't just talking about breaking out in a rash or hives. We are talking about a child not being able to breathe. Sure they have epi-pens in case of emergency but those things HURT. And not being able to breath for those seconds can't be too pleasurable either.

The other allergies or illnesses mentioned, such as glucose or lactose intolerance, don't have the same risks by minute exposure as opposed to direct ingestion and rarely result in immediate death.

I know most schools have peanut free classrooms and peanut free lunch tables. However, I think with a child that has a known SEVERE allergy to peanuts they may actually ban the peanuts in the school altogether.

I think it's sad that a child with peanut allergies would have to sit alone at a separate table to eat their lunch when it can be avoided.

Some people here mentioned the poor G kids having to sit at a separate table because they bring bagged lunch and how they can't sit with their peers, etc and how horrible that is. Yes, it's sad if that's the case, but so much more sad that a child would have to sit alone at a table because some parents don't want to be inconvenienced to not send in a peanut butter sandwich for their child.

Yes, there are circumstances where that is all the child will eat, although I think that's pretty rare, but how would you feel if that child is forced to sit at a lunch table alone because he chooses to eat only peanut butter? Would that be fair?

I'm not saying it's a simple black and white case, but I think people need to have a little more compassion for young children who can't help having fatal food allergies.

pink slime said...

I have to wonder if it wasn't for this blog would she be less relevant than she already is? I mean, if it wasn't for this blog, I wouldn't know what her tweets were, who was tweeting what about her, when her CC blogs were posted and what they were about, same for her blog. It would be an interesting experiment if this blog would shut down for a week or two. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy this blog as my guilty pleasure and it does expose her but I wonder if we are keeping her alive.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Hi Lauren, the same thing happened to me on this board so I stopped posting for a while, changed my name and post sparingly. I like to read the blog every so often because I do think some of the posters are funny but there really is a lack of tolerance of other views. Some of the regular posters tend to label people based on one or two comments that they don't agree with

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Nobody called Lauren anything. Go back and read the posts. Two people already explained this. Admin pointed out that this isn't a support group. However, after parties there are some who do try to get you home safely when the Rumspringas have flowed too much. There are discussions about many different topics, from insomnia to cast iron skillets. Comment, or don't comment. It's up to you.

NJGal51 said...

Well said SG.

KAT said...

Mean Girls...I assume you're here because you have no where else to spread your kindness Ha...Have you ever taken a look at the Kate fan blogs(whats left of them)The people on there are beyond vile. A lot of filthy stuff about Jon is said daily...If "mean girls" is the worst thing you can say about this blog...then have at it...I have suspected lately theres been alot of Kate fans over here bacause they have no where else to go....your hero is a has been, washed up, pathetic human being...deal with it!! Don't come and take your frustrations out on people here...direct your disappiontment towards Kate ...where it belongs. You will never see her on T.V. again...ITS OVER!...accept and move on...

Parent In Lancaster County said...


Some people here mentioned the poor G kids having to sit at a separate table because they bring bagged lunch and how they can't sit with their peers, etc and how horrible that is. Yes, it's sad if that's the case,

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That's not the case. I don't know when or why that rumor started but it's not true. Anyone may sit with anyone else, elbow to elbow. Bagged lunchers may sit with those who buy their lunches. If a student chooses not to eat anything, he/she may still sit at the table with the baggers and the buyers. It's not a segregated lunch room.

chesterctymom said...

Kate is being nicer because she is telling people that she has a new book coming out...she is so transparent...

AuntieAnn said...

I must be going blind. I don't see the rule #5 that says once you are here you have to stay here. A blog with a banner showing a caricature of an orange Kate Gosselin on her pink phone with a big sneering veneered grin on her face should be a dead giveaway that this isn't exactly the place to pay homage to the woman.

KAT said...

She has a new book coming out ??? Is someone publishing her book? Thats news to me! That's probably unlikely...

Once a Viewer said...

SG and readerlady:

Totally agree with you on the peanut issue. Life and death scenario possible. Butterfly- my daughter also had a failure to thrive issue and would only eat certain foods. But we did have the no peanut rule in our school and I wouldn't dream of risking another child so my child could eat her preferred food- she could make it up at home. There was enough (well, not much!) I could send to school for lunch that was not PB. No one starves themselves to death. (unless there are anorexia or other medical issues) I worried a lot about my DDs weight- was under 0% underweight and had to go to an eating disorder clinic at age two! But now, I have to remind her not to eat too much junk food etc and she's fine. The clinic told me to offer food at mealtimes, no snacks and she would eat. Well, she didn't, but at least I was comforted that she wouldn't starve.

Sorry to the poster who doesn't like the OTs. Sometimes not enough news form the Gosselinators, and sometimes this community just likes to support one another or discuss an issue of interest. If you aren't interested, scroll on by, as people have said before..

aggiemom09121416 said...

So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Hey, don't forget about all that 'master-minding she does. With her limited intelligence, I bet it takes all day to figure out what to cook for dinner. Poor thing, and has to boss around all those 'helpers' too. Tsk tsk
And for the record, I think she's worse than mediocre....no job, no family, no interests. All she does is tweet teenagers and talk about toilet paper and cold meds.

Anonymous said...

Popping in this morning briefly. I was going to ask if I could be frank, but decided to just stick with Flight of the Kiwi. While most posters here tolerate me, or possibly even understand me,for those who think WTF's up with her? This may help to understand my point of view on pretty much the world:

Early this morning, about 5:30, as I was preparing to feed the dog and DH was in the kitchen putting a sack breakfast together for sustenance on his trip to a distant job site, I notice on the edge of the stairway a note which said: Large "Brendan"...Bell. The conversation with Rocketman went thusly:

ME: There's a note on the stairway. What is it? (my mistake. I know. I've seen Airplane! way to many times to not realize this.)

DH: It's a small piece of paper with writing on it.

Like I hadn't seen THAT coming.

ME: Ha Ha. No. What does Large "Brendan"...Bell mean?

DH: Oh. That's for me.

ME: Sigh. I KNOW it's YOUR note. What does it mean?

DH: I need to remember to order a shirt for Brendan. A large. I also need a bell for the Gahanna job. You're awfully nosy.

ME: (hand up) Read between the lines...

DH: Well FU too, but not now, I'm late. But a nooner is doable. Unless I get held up at the site. Then it'll have to be tonight.

ME: Funny

DH: I am the wittiest person I know. I've told you that for 38 years.

ME: Would you like me to put the note in your satchel?

DH: Nah, just pitch it...I won't remember anyway.

ME: Well, have a good trip. Drive safe. Be nice.

DH: It'll be a great day! Sex tonight! Yay!

And this my life. I am not easily insulted or offended. I realize I can be insulting and offensive. Sometimes it's intentional. Sometimes it's not. I see humor in lots of things. Lots of everyday mundane things. It's a defense mechanism :)

My husband thinks I am way too nice and accommodating to people. I know, shocker. But then, he professes to not like people - in general ("I" think he has a shyness/social anxiety issue...hence the trips to Mars, where, apparently, there are no people. Or so I am told).

So, my frame of reference. And I wouldn't have it any other way :)

Love you guys!

BTW, I have NEVER thumbed my nose. At anyone. I prefer chin flicking. Or thumbing my teeth - particularly after I've eaten spinach. Very effective.

Oh, and I never did learn who Brendan is, nor why he needs a shirt. Sometimes it's best to quit while you're somewhat ahead.

Dmasy said...

Auntie Ann -- Rule #5. I looked, too. Not there.

I don't understand. If you don't like the ladies here, if you don't like what they are commenting on and if you don't like how you perceive you are being treated -- well, why be here?

None of us have unlimited "free" time. I would not choose to spend mine pointing out the flaws of a blog I do not agree with.

I would move on to something I enjoy more and I would NOT feel the necessity to announce my decision.

I hope I have not been mean to anyone who posted here. I do not feel as if anyone has even been mean to me.

AuntieAnn said...

KAT said... 187

She has a new book coming out ??? Is someone publishing her book? Thats news to me! That's probably unlikely...
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I will wager the book she's working on is full of updated photos of her and the kids with comments about said photos along with a couple of short chapters on the difficulties of raising them all on her own.

Maybe she'll include photos of food and as an added bonus, different angles of her with her meat slicer.

Anonymous said...

Let's do some numbers crunching on the book that Kate may or may not have coming out in the next year or so, shall we (I have a few extra minutes on my lunch break.)

For one or another reasons I may or may not understand the publishing business. (*disclaimer* I'm not an editor, so my grammar may be a bit atrocious at times).
That said...let's say Kate has book in the works.
Most publishers will look at the last sales of her book and perhaps offer her an advance of (and this is generous) $100k against any royalties. This advance is not in addition to what every book sales she has, instead it is a dollar amount of royalties to the author from the number of books that the publisher believes it will sell. Most authors make between $1.00 to $2.00 per book (that's the amount after the publishing fees, agent and advertising fees are taken out. Around 12-13%) So for Kate's (alleged book) to be a success, she would have to sell more than 50k books. (I'm being generous with the royalties just because I'm in a good mood this afternoon). After she sells 50k books (to make up the advance) then she would receive a monthly (or quarterly) royalty check on the current sales of her book.

Seeing as how Kate only sold 15k-20k of her last book, she did not make enough money off of it to last her more than a few of months of mortgage payments and car insurance premiums and perhaps some groceries.

There are very few authors that are independently wealthy from their book sales. (Stephen King is one, and of course if your book becomes a movie, ie: Harry Potter, Twilight, etc. then you reap vast rewards)

Kate was very, very lucky that the book that Beth wrote did so well, but her 'authorship' track record since is lackluster.

Let Kate write a book, however she would make more money if she would have devoted that time to actually working outside the home instead of writing her next great novel on her iPhone (ridiculously stupid admission of her by the way as it shows how little she really cares about the craft that so many people have worked at).

Okay, lunch break is almost over.

Dmasy said...

Kiwi, I adore your hilarious stories and I think I love your husband. His new job is going well? Yes?

38 years -- you could probably write a book. At least, one about life on Mars as seen through the eyes of a loved one.

SG said...

Parent in Lancaster County said...
That's not the case. I don't know when or why that rumor started but it's not true. Anyone may sit with anyone else, elbow to elbow. Bagged lunchers may sit with those who buy their lunches. If a student chooses not to eat anything, he/she may still sit at the table with the baggers and the buyers. It's not a segregated lunch room.
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Thanks! Good to know. It never made sense to me because my daughters sit at the same table regardless of whether they bring their lunch in that day or buy it at school. I know they don't go to the same school but I just didn't think it would make sense to have a separate area for brown-baggers, or Peace Love World lunchboxers. ;)

JoyinVirginia said...

I heart Charlie!!!!!!!! (8X Dontcha know!)

Book recommendations: Susan Wittig Albert writes several series, the most fun one she just concluded is ”The Cottage Tales of Beatrix Potter” which I have learned a lot from, about Miss Potter and her life and times. The series is delightful, eight books that are quick reads, and have animal conversations as well as the human discussions. Each book has a mystery as well going on. The real Beatrix Potter used her earnings from the Peter Rabbit books to buy a small farm in the area of Lake Windemere in Great Britain, and theses novels are all about things that could have happened there and in the small towns of Near and Far Sawrey.
Susan Wittig Albert also writes a mystery series featuring China Bayles, a lawyer retired to Texas Hill Country and an herb shop owner, and all the books have a title involving plants or herbs. I love these novels, because there is usually info about the plants and recipes too.
The same author has stayed a new series called the Darling Dahlias about a depression era small Alabama town and the garden club ladies who, of course, solve mysteries. All are highly recommended.

chefsummer #Leh said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 189
So we're back to the age old question what DOES she do all day if she's not caring for the house herself? Just cook?
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Hey, don't forget about all that 'master-minding she does. With her limited intelligence, I bet it takes all day to figure out what to cook for dinner. Poor thing, and has to boss around all those 'helpers' too. Tsk tsk
And for the record, I think she's worse than mediocre....no job, no family, no interests. All she does is tweet teenagers and talk about toilet paper and cold meds.
___________

Can't forget all the paper work she has.

Can't forget she has to pick up all the gifts her teen followers send her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Let Kate write a book, however she would make more money if she would have devoted that time to actually working outside the home instead of writing her next great novel on her iPhone (ridiculously stupid admission of her by the way as it shows how little she really cares about the craft that so many people have worked at).
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I agree that Kate could have been working on furthering her degree or bringing in a steady paycheck. I can not imagine paying for health insurance out of pocket for 8 kids. That alone would make working worthwhile.
It's her gamble to take, but not a wise one I think.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Name said... 193


LOL. Instead you spend your time pointing out the flaws of a former reality TV star that you do not agree with. How is that a "better" use of time?
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I will speak for myself, but I have a REAL PROBLEM with parents that make a living off of their kids. Would you gleefully and eagerly place your child on tv for people to ogle? (don't forget the naked shots, yelling, screaming, bowel movements, vomiting,etc.)
Kate Gosselin is a child exploiter, plain and simple. She's a few degrees away from Sandusky, imo. USE USE USE

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Thanks! Good to know. It never made sense to me because my daughters sit at the same table regardless of whether they bring their lunch in that day or buy it at school

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You're welcome. No problem. It makes no sense at all. With so much talk of lunches and brown-bagging it, this is one rumor that needed to be quashed before it goes viral -- that the "poor" Gosselin children sit all alone at their own table in the lunch room because their mother makes them take their lunch to school. Not true.

Tucker's Mom said...

I will speak for myself, but I have a REAL PROBLEM with parents that make a living off of their kids. Would you gleefully and eagerly place your child on tv for people to ogle? (don't forget the naked shots, yelling, screaming, bowel movements, vomiting,etc.)
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Amen, and for me, it goes for the Duggars and their friends (Bates?) who have seen the $$$$ they rake in and are willing to put cameras in their kids' faces.
Honey Boo's mom, Jenny Mache, Quints by surprise. The whole lot of them. Anyone who uses their kids for a paycheck.
Jenny Masche and

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is there an example of a child dying after sitting next to a kid with a pbj? No one's showed me that yet. The death in Virginia was from a child feeding a little girl an actual peanut. I was just reading about a study that compared two groups of people with peanut allergies, one told there were peanuts in the room the other not. Only the group told peanuts were in the room suffered allergic reactions. Crazy. Same article says peanut butter does not put any allergens in the air.

Netwellness.org/healthtopics/ch/peanut1.cfm

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