Thursday, March 15, 2012

Horses, even those on reality t.v., have more protections than reality T.V. kids

Since 1940, the Motion Picture Association has required animal protection organizations on set. The Humane Association has written regulations for animal actors, including those on reality T.V.  
The USDA, PETA and Humane Society all conspire to protect horses from Kate.
This week, HBO's series Luck quickly shut down production after three horses diedPermanently shut down production. The American Humane Association is in the middle of an investigation of the incidents, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals had been putting pressure on HBO to give it up since they first heard of the problems.

A look at the history of Hollywood productions and animal actors shows that one of the first regulations protecting animals dates all the way back to 1940 (a year after a horse died jumping off a cliff in the film Jesse James). 1940. That's one year after Gone With The Wind came out. Elizabeth Taylor, who was 14 when she starred in National Velvet in 1944, could expect her horse to get better protection than she did. The law, enacted by the Motion Picture Association, required all productions to invite the Humane Association on all sets filming animals, and consult with an authorized representation from the organization. 






Today, most states have very detailed animal cruelty statutes that apply to motion pictures and television, and the Human Association has their own rules published in a guide that is more than 120 pages long, and even includes three full pages about animals used on reality T.V.


Here are some of the reality T.V. provisions for animals (pages 31-33, if you are interested):

  • Production should assign one or more specific crew members with responsibility ONLY for the needs of the animal “contestants ” Who was specifically assigned to the needs of the Gosselin kids?   
  • If animals are to be transported to a location, there should be time allowed for acclimation to the new environment and rest time following travel, prior to the start of production. How much rest did the Gosselins gets after long flights? 
  •  Animals should never be left unattended or unsecured in a manner 
  • that would be unsafe or uncomfortable for the animals  Animals 
  • shall not be left in the care of any person who is inexperienced in the 
  • proper care of the animals. How experienced was the crew with kids when the Gosselins were left with them?
  • Camera angles and lighting should be done with a “stuffy” rather than 
  • the live animals. Who stood in for the kids when shots were being set up? 
Many states, including California, require a set teacher on set to monitor children (set teachers do far more than just teach--they are required to know the applicable child labor laws and in some states have the power to shut down production), however there is no such oversight for reality T.V. kids.

We've come so far in protecting animals. HBO shut down Luck just like that. Why can't we be as vigilant when it comes to protecting kids? Is it because they don't have a bulldog organization like PETA behind them? Yet.

22 sediments (sic) from readers:

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Briefly back to Globe-gate, would it be too much to dub the angry Hitler video with Kate's latest blog tirade?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQ9MtXGBGE

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Briefly back to Globe-gate, would it be too much to dub the angry Hitler video with Kate's latest blog tirade?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQ9MtXGBGE

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Yes blogger is being buggy. SOmeone emailed me to say all their comments were gone today even though I never delete them.

Also it just published my last comment three times.

AuntieAnn said...

Briefly back to Globe-gate, would it be too much to dub the angry Hitler video with Kate's latest blog tirade?
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Nope. I think it's perfectly acceptable. Kate is tyrannical. Period. End of story. May I add the following few paragraphs too, Admin? It's from a blog of an adult daughter of a narcissist. It seems to tie in perfectly with the theme of this thread.



Your Most Fundamental Right

Your most fundamental right, the right given to all living creatures be they man or beast, is the right to self-defense. A fundamental right is defined as any right that can be simultaneously claimed by all without infringing on another person's rights. Self-defense falls into this definition. Your right to protect yourself, your property, and your family can be exercised without infringing on another person's right to the same. The fundamental right to LIVE is the basis of the fundamental right of self-defense.

I contend that only a tyrant-at-heart will try to make a case that you do not have the right to self-defense. Narcissists are always tyrannical which is why they will teach their children at the youngest age that the child has no right to self-defense. This is taught to the child through brain-washing techniques which is why the child grows into an adult and still won't exercise their most basic human right. One of the hallmarks of self-defense is that you will use the minimum force necessary to eliminate the imminent threat. For example, if you stab someone 45 times the police will not likely believe you were acting in self-defense. That kind of over kill is the hallmark of rage and hatred, not self-defense.

~snip~

Recognize the reality that the narcissist will never give you "permission" to defend yourself against them. Quit being confused as to your rights to self-defense when confronted by the threatenings and breathings against you by the narcissist for doing so. Is it reasonable to expect the despotic ruler to grant you the right to mount a defense against his capricious demands? Hardly. It is time to recognize your fundamental right to live which is connected to your fundamental right to defend your life against threats. This is as true in the emotional, mental and spiritual realm as in the physical.

AMD said...

From Kate's Globe-gate blog:
"I heard them become their own jury as they turned to each other and questioned one another."
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That should read "...as they turned on each other..." Poor little Joel, unjustly accused and left to be tried by his siblings...by his own mother. She just doesn't grasp the significance of the damage that she's doing to her children. This is not good parenting. The less aggressive children in that family are not going to thrive as this is not a nurturing environment. The bullies-in-training will rule the roost. Kate's training them well.
Go for it, Admin!

Sue Buddy said...

The topic of this thread reminded me of the song Bless the Beasts and the Children by the Carpenters:


Bless the beasts and the children
For in this world they have no voice
They have no choice

Bless the beasts and the children
For the world can never be
The world they see

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them

Bless the beasts and the children
Give them shelter from the storm
Keep them safe
Keep them warm

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them

Bless the beasts and the children
Give them shelter from the storm
Keep them safe
Keep them warm

Teresa said...

Sue. This song for the kids too.....Bocelli/Dion
The Prayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Yu3o8W5JMuU

Teresa said...

......... lead us to a place... guide us with your grace.. to a place where we'll be safe..Let this be out prayer..

AuntieAnn said...

Sue Buddy said... 6

Bless the beasts and the children
For the world can never be
The world they see

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them
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I cry like a goddamn baby when I see a wounded, unloved, uncared for animal.

Children too, of course, but something about seeing animals hurt in any way just rips my heart out.

EM said...

WAIT. Back to the globe. How did it teach the FAMILY an important lesson when the one child was given a free pass and 6 others still thought Joel was guilty because of the secret agreement between kate and her favorite child?

health fairy said...

I've been reading some posts from people who are 'hurt' or 'offended' by replies here.

This is the world wide web, people. Not exactly a place that coddles everyone.

My 1st post was replied to in a, say, 'unpleasant' manner but was very quickly followed up with an apology by none other than the owner of this blog!

If I had quit posting because of that, I would not have learned some important info pertaining to myself.

Anyway, thank you Admin. for your gracious response. Kudos to you!

(I don't think my words are in any way 'special' or feel the need to re-post from the last thread so EVERYONE will read this on the current thread. I simply wanted to make sure Admin. got to see my words.)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Hate to leave this important topic so soon but the Hitler parody is up.

If ever their were a situation that warranted that famous parody, the globe blog was it!

amyf said...

Virginia Pen Mom -

Thanks for the info on Harry Potter theme park from last thread. Sounds wonderful!

amyf said...

I agree with AuntieAnn #9.

I watch as many animal/nature shows as I can find and I still can't stand to see the wildebeests crossing the river and getting attacked by crocs! I know there has to be prey for the predators but it's something I just can't watch. And seeing domestic animals hurt/abused is even more painful for me (just spent $980 I don't have for tests and medications for my 15-year-old cat - please cross fingers that I can get the meds into him at the right times!).

As for kids - agreement goes without saying.

Marie said...

I don't know why it didn't occur to me before, but, it sort of seems like Kate tends to serve a dessert fairly often. Most people I know only reserve dessert after dinner for an occasion, not because you know, it's Wednesday or whatever.

Funny how she complains about how she can't eat certain things but continues to serve her kids strange food combinations and dessert and juice as if it's no problem.

My dad loves Brussels Sprouts. As a kid I never acquired the taste...probably because he always boiled them to death until they had no taste.

Surely not all her kids like them. I mean it's not the most pleasant vegetable I can think of others to serve with a pasta dish. I hope that's one thing she doesn't save for the kids to eat the next day.

Like cereal, if I didn't finish it my mom would wrap it up and put it in the fridge for me to eat the next day. Cereal after it's been sitting in milk isn't exactly palatable either.

I hate to see god forbid if something expensive was broken in that house. Really it's just sad she has to be steamed about it.

barbee said...

It surprised me that the bitch would tell that "Cara" thought Joel looked guilty, that she left the kids to go over it, that she had the REAL LIAR secretly confess to her, that she had the REAL LIAR secretly tell Joel she was sorry and that she left the other 7 (count 'em, 7) Gosselins believing it was Joel protecting the REAL LIAR (was it her PET?).

JudyK said...

AuntieAnn said... 9
Sue Buddy said... 6

Bless the beasts and the children
For the world can never be
The world they see

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them
====

I cry like a goddamn baby when I see a wounded, unloved, uncared for animal.

Children too, of course, but something about seeing animals hurt in any way just rips my heart out.

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Same here, Auntie Ann...and I cannot watch those wretched commercials on t.v. where, in an effort to seek donations for mistreated animals, they show abused, neglected animals. My soul cannot take it.

Dwindle said...

Production should assign one or more specific crew members with responsibility ONLY for the needs of the animal “contestants ” Who was specifically assigned to the needs of the Gosselin kids? *** THEIR GESTATIONAL CARRIER, OF COURSE. THE ONE IN CHARGE AND THAT IS NEVER GONNA CHANGE. (When complaints were voiced about the children working in 103F temps in NYC, some city official replied "Well, their mother was right there and she didnt see a problem...")

If animals are to be transported to a location, there should be time allowed for acclimation to the new environment and rest time following travel, prior to the start of production. How much rest did the Gosselins gets after long flights? *** THEY ALL SLEPT ON THE PLANES THANKS TO MR. BENEDRY. DONT ? KATE'S MOTHERING, SHE IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF DRUGGING HER OWN CHILDREN THANK YOU!!!!!!! CHILDREN DONT NEED TIME TO ACCLIMATE TO VACATIONS AND WONDERFUL GIFTED TRIPS!!!!


Animals should never be left unattended or unsecured in a manner
that would be unsafe or uncomfortable for the animals Animals shall not be left in the care of any person who is inexperienced in the proper care of the animals. How experienced was the crew with kids when the Gosselins were left with them? *** THEY WERE ALL DADDIES, REMEMBER? AT LEAST KATE "THINKS" THEY WERE ALL DADDIES, AS SHE DOESNT SEE OR HEAR OTHER PEOPLE SO SHE WASNT REALLY SURE. SOME MENTIONED THEIR OWN MEDIOCRE CHILDREN BUT KATE WAS MUCH TOO BUSY AND EXHAUSTED TO PAY ANY ATTENTION. AT ANY RATE, IT WAS FINE BECAUSE KATE DECIDED IT WOULD BE FINE AND SHE IS IN CHARGE AND THAT IS NEVER GONNA CHANGE.


Camera angles and lighting should be done with a “stuffy” rather than
the live animals. Who stood in for the kids when shots were being set up? *** GEEZ, THEY STOOD IN FOR EACH, AFTER ALL THERE ARE EIGHT OF EM YOU KNOW. AND KATE DOESNT ALLOW STUFFED TOYS AS SHE IS MUCH TOO BUSY AND EXHAUSTED TO DEAL WITH THAT. STAND INS? DONT BE RIDICULOUS **WE ARE FILMING!!!!!!!!!** BESIDES, THEY WERE JUST PLAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND HAVING FUN AT KATE'S SIDE WHILE *SHE* WAS DOING ALL THE WORK OF SITTING, EYE ROLLING, AND SNIPPING OTHER PEOPLE OFF.

** Maybe we need to form a Humane Society for Children on Film. Stage outrageous propoganda stunts like PETA does. People for the Ethical Treatment of Children on Camera.

Except here is the problem: people think of children as the property of their parents and dont want The Big Government telling them how to raise their children. Especially when it comes to making a monetary profit off of the children. If you are abusing them and pummeling them with psychological warfare at home, well lots of folks are up in arms about that! But if you are doing it for $$ PROFIT, well then that is your given right to do as you please with your own children. And the children will be fine because they had expensive toys and trips to compensate for their developing psychiatric issues.

Dwindle said...

JudyK said... 17...
Same here, Auntie Ann...and I cannot watch those wretched commercials on t.v. where, in an effort to seek donations for mistreated animals, they show abused, neglected animals. My soul cannot take it.
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I change the channel. Those commercials are the longest on TV today. Yes, it breaks my heart but waddya want from me? A monthly check? I cant do that. I have 3 rescues in my house right now, we have always had rescues. So I change the channel quickly and gaze fondly at my 3, and think of how good they have it now.

And that is a lot of money they are spending on advertising and running those very long commercials. I wonder how much of my donation would go towards profiting the TV networks who sell HUSA the airtime... If I were to make cash donations I would want to be helping the animals, not production companies selling adverts.

AuntieAnn said...

Those commercials are heart-breaking. Then they have that sad song playing and I'm a sobbing mess. If I ever win the lotto I swear I'll set up shelters everywhere I possibly can and hire vets to spay and neuter animals for people who can't afford to have it done. That at least would cut down on the unwanted population - which is only one part of the problem. The other is abuse and neglect...there is NO excuse for that.

franky said...

ingrid..first step was goat milk..my dd rejetted formula chalk-milk..havve u tasted i

Starz22 said...

I am an animal lover...I care more about them than I do people....Wasent this show cancelled b/c 4 horeses were killed making this show?
I know none of the gosselin kids were killed...but yet what thier so called mom is doing to them ...is just that...ABUSE? Work them till they have nothing left?

The commercials we see with the sad ass song get to me.I cant watch them.Those poor pets...How can thier masters...do this to them?
Animals rely on thier humans to feed them and water them...and most of all show them love.If you can sit thru theses commercials and not shed a tear...you must have some serious issues.
Hell...you must be kate.
No one should be given love ...only if kate says so right?
Like shocka...I dont believe for a moment that poor dog is ever let in the house.

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