Monday, March 12, 2012

Freedom!!!

Jon's shackles contract with TLC expired at midnight, according to his reps. Presumably, Kate and the kids' contracts are up, too. Best wishes on their next chapters.

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Anonymous said...

If Kate actually lived what she wrote she wouldn't need to constantly write about taking the high road all the time. People who generally live happy lives don't have this free time to post about gushing writings about how strong, amazing, happy they are. There would be actual proof on her face or more so in her eyes. There aren't unless she's in NYC feeling special.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate just lies without even thinking at this point. Did someone ask MacDougal if the feathers were real?

The description of the dress is a "feathered skirt." I'm not sure industry standards allow you to say feathered if they're not real. I would think you would have to say faux feathered.

HollyMo said...

Gift of grab has left a new comment on the post "Freedom!!!":

I KNEW someone was gonna check on this:

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@Kateplusmy8 @civisions @macduggal hey Kate....designer says they're REAL ostrich feathers

Hahahahaha. . . . I'm sure Kate had NO idea whether the feathers were real or not, she just said they weren't since it was clear that a yes would have gotten her slammed. She could have ignored this tweet and moved on. Not Kate.
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Well, I have to fess up. I spent about 10 minutes the other day trying to see if I could figure out the feathers myself. I had to stop! I was embarrassed for myself.
But I have to admit I am ALWAYS glad to see old kHatie get caught in yet ANOTHER lie.

Also, OT but funny. has any one seen this story yet?
kHate better watch out!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2110851/Debbie-Harry-66-mistaken-Lindsay-Lohan-25.html

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Marie, exactly.

I've noticed that most people here really don't talk about being happy, in healthy relationships, love their kids, and have nice lives. Unless the sheeple say we don't, then sometimes we'll say thanks sheeple that's simply not true though.

And yet, despite people not really saying much about this, I get this overwhelming sense from most people here you are all of that and more.

Happiness and contentment is just something that exudes from people. There is no need to hammer it in. Those who want to hammer are probably overcompensating.

njay said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 193
You are definitely lost, turn right, then left, then two more rights!
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Thanks Admin., you don't know how bad I needed the smile you gave me just now. THANKS (SCREAMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

melin said...

This is OT but I know there is some interest regarding Dance Moms. There will be a new show Dance Moms Miami, starting April 3rd.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to see Kate isn't happy. Only time I've ever even heard her say she was out right happy was when she was in a spa.

I mean I'm no expert and I don't have very many miles on life but if your only happiness is going to spas then maybe you need to learn to dig deeper to find what about your life makes you happy as a whole, not just that one thing.

All I've ever heard Kate say is, "the goal was to...the goal is to...the opportunity was this..." I never heard her once say she just had a happy day. Eh, it must be exhausting to just plan, plan, plan and never enjoy the moment.

You know, as a kid I always heard if you walked around with sour or angry look on your face for too long your face would freeze like that, now, I don't know if Kate got lipo or not doesn't matter but the way she's going it very well might just be true.

I made someone else happy today. At the store this old lady with a full cart, even though I had my own shopping to do I asked if I could help her out to the car. I don't think I ever saw a wider smile on someone else this week. Happiness isn't even always about yourself either, it's about doing something for someone else because you want to, not because you feel obligated.

Birds of a feather said...

I went to a website trying to see if I could find out whether the feathers were real. There was a box where you could type in questions about the dresses featured (Kate's was one) and ask question to a real person, so I did. Here are the typed questions and answers:


Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Marwa'
Marwa: Hello,how may I assist you today?
you: have question about mac duggal 1184D
Marwa: sure, what is your question please?
you: 2 ?? sorry, does it come in white and what kind of feathers?
Marwa: It only comes in black/nude and the feathers are on hem, part of the dress main fabric
you: what kind of feathers are they?
Marwa: One moment please while I check for you.
Marwa: The feathers fabrics are gauze and mesh.

I'm not giving the URL because when that happens about 50 haters and fans bother the sh*t out of some poor soul who doesn't know what the heck is going on.

I have to idea if this is true or not. Wasn't going to even post it, don't really know why I am. Guess I'm bored.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin--

Sunset Boulevard is in the top 20 films of the American Film Institute, had 11 Oscar nominations and won 3 Oscars in 1950,

Three more relevant (to Kate) quotes:

Joe Gillis: I didn't know you were planning a comeback. 
Norma Desmond: I hate that word. It's a return, a return to the millions of people who have never forgiven me for deserting the screen. 


[voice-over] You don't yell at a sleepwalker - he may fall and break his neck. That's it: she was still sleepwalking along the giddy heights of a lost career. 

Joe Gillis: There's nothing tragic about being fifty. Not unless you're trying to be twenty-five. 

The Bitter End said...

Admin said...130
You would be surprised who has contacted me to tell me they read this blog.
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OK, but if you have the inside scoop from "Mr. push Katie Irene off the side of the building", I want to know more.

foxy said...

The "Kate Gosselin is an insult to normal moms" is from a flyer for her lectures. Also in her research she wrote a paper titled "From all American Mom to Super Bitch from Hell. Kate Gosselin and the Classed and Gendered Politics of Reality TV." I will stop by to see if there is a spot available. This lecture is free so it may be difficult and it is open to the public.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Birds of a Feather thanks for checking that out. Good to know no birds were scarified for Kate.

And on another note, when the freaks on twitter just make up lies like that, it really ticks me off.

NJGal51 said...

OT: Just watched Dance Moms and there was no mention of the showgirls routine in the "previously on". I did choke up when Nia went out and did her solo after freezing the first time.

foxy said...

Forgot to put the Brenda Weber lecture at Brown University tomorrow night.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I mean I'm no expert and I don't have very many miles on life but if your only happiness is going to spas then maybe you need to learn to dig deeper to find what about your life makes you happy as a whole, not just that one thing.

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Marie you don't need a lot of miles in life to know what happiness is. A five year old knows what makes him happy. I've heard far more rational thoughts about happiness from 19 year old babysitter Ashley, who once said the kids just need time to relax and let loose. The young often have their priorities a lot straighter than the older think they do.

I think you are wise beyond your years anyway, Marie.

tate said...

She's tweeting about the cases of juice boxes she bought. Doesn't she still get free Juicy Juice? And wouldn't the kids' teeth be rotting out of their heads with all of that sugary juice all of the time??

Dallas Lady said...

How could feathers be made of gauze and mesh?

And per her most recent tweet, how do you organize cases of juice boxes? Aren't they already organized? Unless she means just putting them away. She's always got to make every tiny thing she does sound like such an amazing feat. Sheesh.

Birds of a feather said...

And on another note, when the freaks on twitter just make up lies like that, it really ticks me off.

Yes, lying from both sides. I'm fed up with it; no credibility on either side.

PAM said...

http://mams.rmit.edu.au/3cswkrnqkoekz.pdf

Here's the old flyer

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Foxy, thanks well I guess that settles things for our dear friend Read It Again. This PhD don't like Kate.

Her article "From all American Mom to Super Bitch from Hell. Kate Gosselin and the Classed and Gendered Politics of Reality TV" kind of emphasizes that, and apparently it was cited in a media studies textbook called Media and Class. " the contributors tackle common assumptions in television analysis to show how the mere fact of 'being on tv' is not a straightforward route to recognition, democracy, mobility or value; how new moral economies are emerging in which judgement and aspiration are normalised; and that class relationships are key dramatic devices in the spectacle of television entertainment."

I was going to say earlier to day oh I sure do think you will see Kate in a media studies book. And sure enough there she is. There will be a paragraph or two about the "family" reality show phenomenon, its rise and fall, and how it spiraled so out of control it led to the divorce, a lawsuit, etc. I would be shocked if it doesn't have a permanent place in history, at least in Media Studies.

Westcoaster said...

Looks like supermom was busy, busy, busy, organizing her many, many cases of juiceboxes and organic soups, bought at discount no less. How hard is it to stack cases in the basement or wherever? It's so hard to be her.

Bosom Buddies said...

miloandjack
@Prettybowes @Kateplusmy8 There is NOTHING 2gain by denying the TRUTH...it always comes out. Kate has never hid changes 2her body!

If a sheeple such as this is shown a photo of Kate with AA boobs (as in the episode of her in the black swimsuit in Key West), and then recent photos of her D boobage in which she clearly isn't wearing a bra (bikini), how does a sheeple explain this overnight bosom inflation?

Has anyone ever really pinned them down to explain where this good bra is hiding when clearly there is no bra? No bra, good or bad, is going to be able to push up what isn't there in the first place.

Birds of a feather said...

Dallas Lady said... 21
How could feathers be made of gauze and mesh?
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I don't know. I tried to find out and then slapped myself back into reality. I think I'm losing interest fast. There's never an end. Next is some appearance Mo. then the cruise. I gotta break this nasty habit. I hibernated all winter watching the Kate disaster. It's Spring, dagnabit.

Anonymous said...

If Kate's tiered just from organizing boxes, man, she must be incredibly wiped out after a day on trying to organize her thoughts for her CC job...

Read It Again said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 24
Foxy, thanks well I guess that settles things for our dear friend Read It Again. This PhD don't like Kate.

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Wrong again. The word normal is in quotes, which gives the phrase a different meaning than what you'd like it to mean. This is a discussion about how women who deviate from what is considered a "normal" motherhood role are represented and perceived. I have no idea if "this Ph.D." hates or loves Kate Gosselin or even has thought for one second about how she feels about Kate Gosselin personally, but I can say with confidence that you are misinterpreting what this lecture is about.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Read It Again you're just so darned learned.

I interpret it to mean "normal" as in don't have a reality show. I would put normal in quotes too. I probably have here. Kate Gosseiln is not like us "normal" people.

I don't understand why you're fighting about this, other than to shit stir. If you have something of value to add that is not being a snotty little bitch, please do.

Anonymous said...

Read It Again, you certainly are Curious. Your persistence could try the patience of a Saint.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Also Read It Again is completely incapable of understanding snark. Read It Again appears to have zero sense of humor. Read it Again can't just laugh about the national joke that is Kate.

Sheesh maybe this professor just LOVES Kate Gosselin, who cares, but it's a lot more fun to make cracks about it as a professor who lectures about what a freak Kate is. The idea of that is funny, get it? We'll find out soon enough and that will be that.

Lighten the f up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Working mothers of several kids or even less must just want to punch her in the face when she talks about how she had an action packed day of organizing boxes and just needs a vacation from her vacation.

Spring Has Sprung said...

Read said, I have no idea if "this Ph.D." hates or loves Kate Gosselin

+++++++++++++++++++

Is this the woman who wrote, "From all American Mom to Super Bitch from Hell. Kate Gosselin and the Classed and Gendered Politics of Reality TV."

Don't we always call people we love "Super Bitch From Hell?"

mim said...

Oh, I don't want to punch her in the face. I want karma and 8 teenagers to kick her in the ass.
Everything will take care of itself eventually.

Mel said...

Funny how the photog guy was annoyed that Kate called him a liar, but he called Jon a pig when he apparently has had no interaction with Jon.

franky said...

Dallas lady..juzt a wild guess..gauze and mesh are the ganric of the dress..classic avoidance to question. Maybe the are trying to avoid whole Ostrich feather debate..PETA is against their use.

ganric should read fabric..sorry..Android phone

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anyway Professor Mrs. Women's Studies is late to the party. This PhD was throwing Kate under the bus before it was even cool.

http://www.realitytvkids.com/search/label/expert%20opinions

Katie Cry-duh said...

This bitch is such a hypocrite, liar, and all around buzzkill to all those she comes in contact with. She is also profoundly miserable and mentally ill. Sometimes I almost feel sorry for her, like we're watching someone decompensate in real time who's really truly not well. And then she'll do something like bark at that photographer like an inbred chihuahua for THREE DAYS over nothing or brag about doing far less than the average mother and I just want to yank that weave off her head and step on her flintstone toe. She is so sick yet she makes it impossible to sympathize with her. I truly think she needs inpatient psychiatric care and probably a 12 step program.

Dallas Lady said...

And you know what? Strictly from a cost point of view, for nearly $500, those BETTER be real ostrich feathers.

I don't care enough about the damn pube feathers to go further, but yes, I'd bet almost anything they were real. I don't care that they were real, personally. But of course she lies. She's Kate Gosselin. She lies like normal people breathe.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Katie, I have had several moments where I feel like it's wrong to watch someone with such severe mental health issues disintegrate before our very eyes, and I do feel bad for her despite everything she has done to put herself here. Sort of like when you walk past the psyche ward in the hospital, you try not to stare.

Now that I know Kate is well aware of her own mental health issues it feels all the more awkward.

Katie Cry-duh said...

Admin, does Kate not believe she is mentally ill or not care or both? Please answer at your discretion

Barbara from Texas said...

"yank the weave off her head"

I didn't realize she still had a weave.

Katie Cry-duh said...

Barbara, don't know that she still has the weave either, but it made for a great visual.

Teresa said...

JibberJabbers found the pics of Kart's growing boobies. Really cools pics! Thanks JJ

http://thelyingchannel.blogspot.com/2010/03/exposed-kate-lies-again.html

Westcoaster said...

Thank you, Teresa, that was guiltily entertaining. A good bra, bahaha.

Teresa said...

LOL Westcoaster...unreal eh? Maybe someone could send to Kart's uber fan Milo. LOL
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Holy Moly! Right out of a Stephen King novel. Don't look if you're afraid of spiders!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/spiderwebs-take-over-wagga-wagga-1331586238-slideshow/

EM said...

I think it would be fascinating to start a thread where we all list kate's lies and prove them wrong.
Like the talk of the boobs with photos
Kate's words about Nahla then and now.
The church grifting and purchase of the house
Passing herself off as author of MB
The rich/poor issue
Words about Jon
The kids being expelled
TLC contract ending when the show stopped vs March.
The talk of charity and giving back
Reselling the donated items
The travel lies.
Dancing with the stars lies
Organic always lies
Kids never had fast food lie
Kids dont know what triangular thingies are
OCD lies

You get the point. Lets all name our favorite lie and find something kate said or did to contradict it.

Would you consider this topic Admin. The lies are getting OUT OF CONTROL

Anonymous said...

@EM,

Kids never had fast food lie

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This is the one I want to see. It's kind of hard to claim your kids don't eat fast food when it's on your show in plain sight. I mean if you're going to lie about something...at least don't have any physical evidence to the contrary.

Pants On Fire said...

Read It Again said... 29

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 24
Foxy, thanks well I guess that settles things for our dear friend Read It Again. This PhD don't like Kate.

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Wrong again. The word normal is in quotes, which gives the phrase a different meaning than what you'd like it to mean. This is a discussion about how women who deviate from what is considered a "normal" motherhood role are represented and perceived. I have no idea if "this Ph.D." hates or loves Kate Gosselin or even has thought for one second about how she feels about Kate Gosselin personally, but I can say with confidence that you are misinterpreting what this lecture is about.

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Bhahahaha......Hey, Read It Again,,,,I'm an English teacher. I'll write you a pass to my 3rd-hour class: READING COMPREHENSION. Appears you need a refresher course. Don't worry,,,,you'll fit in with the rest of the 7th graders.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Huh? If someone wants to blab about their mental health issues and that person wants to blab about it to others, there's nothing confidential about that. Your family and friends aren't bound by Hipaa, so be careful what you say!

What a tangled web we weave said...

Lie #65,996:

When they were moving into the McMansion and the camerapersons took great pains NOT to show how GIGANTIC the house really was, including "pretending" there wasn't even a swimming pool!

That is, until one of us (former GWoPers) found the listing on the real estate website and blew that whole facade to smithereens hahahahahaha!!!

AuntieAnn said...

How could feathers be made of gauze and mesh?
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I'm not exactly sure what's on the bottom of Kate's dress but in the event it ever comes up as a category on Jeopardy, you know, like Stupid Clothes Reality Stars Wear I'd go with:

Boa hems are made of this frilly synthetic material;

What is eyelash yarn Alex.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anonymous, eye roll. I am not confirming anything. You could have said is your source Big Bird and I would have said I'm not confirming or denying that.

HONORABLE and ETHICAL people don't reveal their sources when asked not to.

AuntieAnn said...

Now that I know Kate is well aware of her own mental health issues it feels all the more awkward.
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I wouldn't feel too awkward about it, if Kate's not willing to do anything about it, and she'd save herself a lot of grief if she did. People might even cheer her on if sought help. She's hurt a lot of people with her mental issues. Why should you feel bad?

elise said...

I have a question. Since we are all against the exploitation of children, why do you watch Dance Moms? Clearly, it went over the line when an entire EPISODE was pulled. Why contribute to the ratings? Don't you want it stopped, too?

I also think this blog forgets about other exploited reality kids from other shows, too. How about Theresa Guidice's poor girls? They were even trotted out for display on Celebrity Apprentice. Theresa is a hell of a lot worse than Kate what with her legal issues. I agree that Theresa and Kate's brain density is about the same.

Anyways, just wondering why none of these other shows are brought up. And also why you contribute to the ratings of Dance Moms.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elise, in one breath you want to know why some of us watch Dance Moms, then in the next you want to know why we're not commenting on other reality shows with kids. How can we do that if we don't watch?

For me, I'm not sure I can really run a realtytvkids.com blog if I'm not aware of what is going on out there. I can't speak for others. I could hardly cry about how exploitative Dance Moms is if I'm ignorant to what is being put out there.

Theresa Guidice's kids were on Celebrity Apprentice for I think all of five seconds? That's hardly worth making a stink about compared to what else is out there. And that is not a show that normally puts kids out there, that show is for adult contestants ONLY and that's a good thing.

And if you look back, I've done dozens and dozens of posts on other reality shows. This is still a Gosselin blog though and there are many other blogs that better cover other shows. We do touch on them though.

sitting out this dance said...

I have not seen one second of Dance Moms and stopped watching J+K+8 after the very fake wedding renewal.

elise said...

Such a welcoming atmosphere here. Fuck you 'Admin'. You've lost a loyal reader. Cunt.

barbee said...

Losing something is only a loss if it was something you wanted in the first place. Hope you 'got that', elise said. Just figured that as a kate backer, you probably 'don't get it' anymore than she does.

barbee said...

p.s. OK, so she 'organized 15 cases of juiceboxes (seems excessive even for eight, count 'em, 8 kids) and 6+ cases of org. soup. WTF is 6+ cases? Wouldn't that be 7? And how typical, more cases of the non-nutritional (AND NON-ORGANIC) item!!!!!! !!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elise I'm not sure why my response set you off like that. Wow. You made a post claiming we never talk about other reality shows and being all strung out about a couple kids on Celebrity Apprentice who had five seconds of airtime and didn't even SPEAK, I posted saying actually we do talk about other shows quite a bit, and that five seconds of kids on T.V. is not what I'm concerned about. I'm not an absolutest, I don't think children should never ever be on T.V. ever.

And that warrants the C word? Yikes.

Call Me Crazy said...

Elise, a "loyal reader" would have known that there have been posts and many discussions about exploitation regarding both the Dance Moms and the Duggars. Loyal, right.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm betting Elise is still here to watch the reaction to her stomping off in a huff. Look at the sidebar under Essential Reading. Scroll down to number 13. There you will find links to all the other shows we have frequently talked about. And even if there was never a post on it, sometimes we've digressed to other shows anyway.

hey jude said...

Elise,
Such a potty mouth from a loyal reader.Here's a chill pill for you, think you forgot to take it to-day.It's ok, I'm a nurse and sure don't want you to have a conniption fit while you're here shit- disturbing.Take a deep breath....Now, GTFOH, please.

Auntie Ann, been standing here with my end of the net, waiting for you to tell me where you are.I may come for coffee if you live close enough.Getting cold though.....If you're in Man., I'll just go to bearswifes' house.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elise,
Such a potty mouth from a loyal reader.Here's a chill pill for you, think you forgot to take it to-day.It's ok, I'm a nurse and sure don't want you to have a conniption fit while you're here shit- disturbing.Take a deep breath....Now, GTFOH, please.

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Typical M.O. Shit stir with a healthy dose of misrepresenting the facts (i.e. claiming we never talk about other reality shows, which is just ridiculous, we do all the time). Then when their misrepresentations are calmly proven to be completely false, storm off in a huff and blame us for being "mean." Sounds just like Kate. Bad behavior, then blame others.

Sheeple, please get a new schtick.

Anonymous said...

Admin,

There are a group of haters on Twitter that hate you too. They talk openly about it. Some of this might be from them also.

AuntieAnn said...

Hey JUde - ha, come on over, I AM right next door in Alberta! I meant to answer last night but I'm running between homes trying to care for my mom who is elderly with the flu, a sick kid and of course hubs got it too, doesn't want to be left out I guess. AGh..hahaha. Everytime I sit down I get called away.

Nope not a man, wish I was right now..(Pam, can you call my mom?) My name is Jann, my nieces kids can't pronounce the J, hence Auntie Ann. Aren't kids sweet?

Anonymouse Today said...

There are a group of haters on Twitter that hate you too. They talk openly about it. Some of this might be from them also.

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And here's what is really amusing. They read here all the time. There are times when something is stated here, and I'll check to see what's happening on Twitter (better than some television shows) with the cruise, and the same thing is being said there, word for word, from someone's post here. There are facts reported here that show up immediately on Twitter. In fact, I remember reading someone's tweet who said they were off to read the latest news on 15.

Then they say that 15 isn't credible, it's worthless, admin and her minions wouldn't exist without their tweets. If it's not credible, then why post information from this blog? This blog COULD exist without their tweets. If Kate would make her page private, this one would go on without the hater-sheeple war. There are discussions here, intelligent ones that don't exist there. Bloggers are not sanctimonious, but contribute opinions on various topics. If it's worthless, then why do they read here? There are no intelligent discussions, just hating Kate and tormenting the sheeple. The thing is that they do read here on a daily basis, but then turn around and say the blog is worthless.

Pot meet kettle.

JoyinVirginia said...

Else is probably a high school student who gets a thrill from typing out profanities to insult someone on the interwebs..
Elise, go watch Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. check out the end of the movie especially. A cautionary tale for anyone who insults others on the innerwebs. Or blocks them. Ms Kreider should watch it too. Much more fun than endless boring episodes of somebody else's kids.

hey jude said...

Auntie Ann-Jan,

Aw, that is sweet.I love kids when they're learning to talk, miss mine at that age.Too bad we're so tired at that time, we just want them to grow up and know what the heck they're talking about.

My gr'son still calls me 'amma, cause he couldn't say his gr's then.Such a doll he is.I am trying to make him into a figure skater, but his Papa won't let me.

My Mom lived in Edmonton and used to take my middle girl for Summer School @Kurt B.'s rink there- those were the good old days.I lived there too, til I went into training, worked @ Angus McGoogan nursing home.

My Dad was @ CF Base there.I remember working nights and taking the bus and 3 transfers to get there- I'd be afraid to do that now!

Well, will get my net and head over there; I have relatives there who can help us.Fun times!

ICExploitation said...

Why is TLC advertising new J+K episodes? Oh please no!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Here's another great oldie from Ex Nurse about Sunset Blvd:

Ex Nurse has left a new comment on your post "Freedom!!!":

Admin--

Sunset Boulevard is in the top 20 films of the American Film Institute, had 11 Oscar nominations and won 3 Oscars in 1950,

Three more relevant (to Kate) quotes:

Joe Gillis: I didn't know you were planning a comeback.
Norma Desmond: I hate that word. It's a return, a return to the millions of people who have never forgiven me for deserting the screen.


[voice-over] You don't yell at a sleepwalker - he may fall and break his neck. That's it: she was still sleepwalking along the giddy heights of a lost career.

Joe Gillis: There's nothing tragic about being fifty. Not unless you're trying to be twenty-five.

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