Saturday, October 29, 2011

Figure 8 calls arrest of Jon and Kate Plus 8 editor for child porn 'shocking'

In a brief statement, Figure 8 (the company that produced Jon and Kate) says Blankinship, who was contracted by them, has been fired, and [thankfully] never had direct contact with any of TLC's 'talent'


Blankinship, 56, was contracted by Figure 8 Films to edit Jon and Kate Plus 8 and other reality shows about children. He was arrested October 21 and charged with 10 counts of 2nd-degree distribution of child pornography.

According to IMDB.com, Blankinship was involved in some form in the following 23 episodes of Jon and Kate Plus 8:


  1. Girls Day Out (29 June 2008) - Editor  
  2. Sextuplets' 4th Birthday (7 July 2008) - Editor  
  3. Wild Horses (11 August 2008) - Editor  
  4. Leis & Luaus (10 November 2008) - on-line editor , Editor  
  5. Twins Are Mommy for a Day (8 December 2008) - Editor  
  6. All You Wanted to Know (19 January 2009) - on-line editor , Editor  
  7. The Big Move (2 February 2009) - on-line editor  
  8. Home Sweet Home (16 February 2009) - Editor  
  9. Bye Old House (2 March 2009) - on-line editor  
  10. Slopes, Sleds and Sesame (16 March 2009) - on-line editor , Editor  
  11. Family Outing (23 March 2009) - on-line editor , Editor  
  12. B-Ball & More (23 March 2009) - on-line editor  
  13. Turning 5 & The Future! (25 May 2009) - Editor  
  14. Bam! 100th Episode (8 June 2009) - on-line editor , Editor  
  15. Jon & Kate Plus 8: The First 10 Years (29 June 2009) - on-line editor  
  16. Renovations & Vacations (3 August 2009) - Editor  
  17. Camping Out (3 August 2009) - on-line editor  
  18. Beach and Kitchen Reveal (10 August 2009) - on-line editor  
  19. Battleship & Barber (17 August 2009) - on-line editor , Editor  
  20. Dude Ranch and Dress Up (31 August 2009) - on-line editor  
  21. Movie & a Catch (14 September 2009) - on-line editor  
  22. Farm to Table (21 September 2009) - on-line editor  
  23. Gymnastics and Baseball (16 November 2009) - on-line editor  

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shocked, i'm shocked said...

Yeah, who would have ever guessed that a pedophile would work on a show where babies and chlldren were videotaped naked, on potties, being dressed, in their bedrooms and in other private moments?

What a shock.

Great work, absent-mom-of-the-year, on pimping out your kids in every way possible.

Audible Click said...

That's all fine and dandy but has TLC/Figure8 released any information on the protocols, if any, for safe keeping/disposal of raw footage?

Administrator said...

I hate how Figure 8 calls them talent. These are little children, human beings, victims now. Not freaking "talent."

Where is Kate today? I would try to sleep away as much of the day too I guess.

Stewmama said...

Do you think any part of this news will have an affect on Kate? Personally, it makes me angry enough that I want to cry for those kids that are involved with this. I remember watching the episode when the babysitters were in a motel room with the Gosselin kids giving them baths and how they were shown completely naked to the point that their private areas were blurred. Disgusting. I wish this world could be rid of people like this Blankenship person.

Administrator said...

shocked, i'm shocked said...
Yeah, who would have ever guessed that a pedophile would work on a show where babies and chlldren were videotaped naked, on potties, being dressed, in their bedrooms and in other private moments?

What a shock.
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LOL, yeah really.

This is rather like being shocked that someone who liked swimming would be found doing laps in a pool.

criminal mom said...

Stewmama said...

Do you think any part of this news will have an affect on Kate?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why would it? It's not as if she wasn't warned about the harm she was doing to her children, again and again.

Why would she care now?

She just twittered away yesterday, as if nothing had happened. As far as she's concerned, this has nothing to do with her.

Her detachment from her children is just about as complete as it could be.

Dulcina said...

Figure 8 is indeed involved:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/jon-kate-plus-8-editor-charged-sex-exploit-a-minor-10-counts-north-carolina

Administrator said...

Stewmama said...
Do you think any part of this news will have an affect on Kate? Personally, it makes me angry enough that I want to cry for those kids that are involved with this.
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That's how a normal person would react, so angry they could cry/spit/scream. But I think Kate is mainly concerned about doing damage control. I'm sure there have already been several calls to her manager, PR, Steve and TLC. She has been quite absent from twitter, just a few happy go lucky tweets yesterday. Too happy.

I think she truly thinks she was not at fault, because she did not know him and couldn't control who was contracted, and I don't think she will allow herself to believe that her children's footage was involved. It must be some other kids.

I think she's mainly worried if this will prevent her from getting a job on the View. And if it does in her mind, she will somehow blame the children for attracting creeps.

I think any normal mother would be puking her guts out that this creep spent TWENTY-THREE episodes in an editing bay with her children's footage. Puking...her...guts...out.

K8 sucks said...

Admnistrator said

I think any normal mother would be puking her guts out that this creep spent TWENTY-THREE episodes in an editing bay with her children's footage. Puking...her...guts...out.

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If this woman pukes, it's only going to be for weight control. She has no interest in her children's welfare at all.

Administrator said...

Everything that happened in the behind the scenes history of this show needs to be re-examed now.

LIke what about producer Jen's departure? She was there so much, then...poof. Other people have gone poof, could have been for a variety of reasons. Or....maybe they were concerned about the kind of footage that was being obtained, maybe they had a funny feeling about other folks working on this show. So many things to ponder.

Wonder what Jodi and Kevin feel about this. I'm sure it's good to know they weren't crazy.

She's such a c word said...

Admin, Kate's in 'twitter prison again'. Least it's not the Federal Penitentiary.

Administrator said...

Here's the videoclip of the View when the ladies finally wised up and called Kate out on trying to make her kids stars and calling Jon mediocre:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2011/09/roundup-kates-pricey-jaunt-to-new-york.html

There is a better chance than usual this time around they might throw her a few hardballs. Gentle hardballs. Still a small one, but worth hoping for.

Dulcina said...

From the ROL article, it sounds like this might be in federal hands.

too dispicable for words said...

She's such a c word said...

Admin, Kate's in 'twitter prison again'

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Yeah, she says she's in "twitter prison". In other words, as usual, SHE'S not responsible. Someone else put her there.

Because, god knows, NONE of this is any of HER responsibility.

silimom said...

I love how Figure 8 states he was never "near" the talent. Um, guys, he edited raw footage. And wec know there is footage of the kids naked, taking baths, potty training, etc. I would assume that a person could easily fantasize over footage of child taking a bath. No, it's not child porn by the definitions given in the last post but my point is it doesn't have to be.

If I were Kate or Jon, my first reaction would be shock, then concern and after I'd had a moment to process, I'd then put a call into my lawyer to see if my children's images were in his collection.

There was an episode of Law and Order:SVU where pictures of Detective Stabler's daughter were on a pedophile sharing network. Now, no one had ever touched his daughter, it wasn't a sexual picture - I think it was a school photo. But that didn't stop him from beating up the guy because he knew the guy and others were using that picture to fantasize about his kid.

Kate, I hope you or Jon are taking this seriously and figuring out how someday you'll explain this to your children.

Anonymous said...

I agree Administrator, the word "talent" jumped out at me too. According to Kate the children were not "performing", they were merely playing. As I said last night, if I was in her shoes right now I would have to be heavily medicated in order to get any rest. She has likely been in touch with TLC and told not to comment and will use that line on The View when the subject comes up.

Knowing what we know about her, in the absence of any job offers, she will turn this situation around by re-inventing herself as an advocate for abused children.

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Dulcina said...

I agree with whoever said that it this comes up on the View, Kate will position herself as the victim. She only perceives her children as "extensions of herself" after all.

Downeaster Alexa said...

If Kate were drinking and driving and killed someone, would the sheeple say that it was the victim's fault because he or she shouldn't have been on the road?

No Way said...

Anonymous said

Knowing what we know about her, in the absence of any job offers, she will turn this situation around by re-inventing herself as an advocate for abused children.

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Not a chance in the world. First, she doesn't care in the slightest. Second, every other word out of her mouth is me, me, me. Third, no child welfare organization in the world would touch her, even if she claimed to have "reformed".

Not gonna happen, not ever. There's nothing in it for her, and she's incapable of committing to behavior that doesn't directly benefit her, at least in her own mind.

Dulcina said...

Knowing what we know about her, in the absence of any job offers, she will turn this situation around by re-inventing herself as an advocate for abused children.
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Like she's helping St. Jude's, feeding the hungry, saving the koalas...........

But the sheeple will buy it.

Gabby2 said...

Women who video tape themselves and sell their videos on-line, never meet the men that buy their pornography.....so I guess it's ok for Kate because the man selling videos of her kids never meet them.

She is a pimp, imo.

Marie said...

As much as my English might be lacking here, what does she mean by "Twitter prison?"

I mean, she is the one who signed UP to use Twitter isn't she? Nobody made her do it, just like nobody forced her to do reality TV. It was a CHOICE. A good or bad choice it is still her responsibility as a parent.

I don't have children but like so many I've been through this crap before and survived but if she thinks this is something she can skate over and ignore and hope it will go away and won't affect her or her kids she's wrong.

I originally had issues with her (and Jon) dressing bathing their kids in front of a camera and other people. Was there a point to that? I don't care if it was to show people how long it takes to get 8 or 6 kids dressed it was wrong. Her excuse, "Now that the kids are older, they need privacy." What? Just because you are a baby/toddler and helpless you didn't deserve your privacy then? Just sick really.

If only The View would cancel her because of this or at least even ASK her and make her respond I have no hope for our entertainment industry in the way of reality TV. Death, exploitation, pornography I mean the list can go on and on why this is wrong to involve kids.

Kate loved having a "crew," It was the Disney episode that truly got me. Kate said, "THANKFULLY! Our production crew was there to wait with kids while got situated." I thought then...what would you have done with no crew? Left your kids defenseless? And nobody I ever knew who went to to Disney walked into a room and got free Mickey Mouse ears. All staged.

Forgive me but this subject hits sore spot with me whether or not her kids are directly involved it still could possibly do emotional damage and it is just not right no matter how young you are, you should always deserve to be protected and have your privacy.

She's such a c word said...

Marie, when Kate says she's in 'twitter prison' it means she's having technical difficulties with it. (Or, she's too busy with Steve.)

Dulcina said...

I am not on twitter so I am ONLY guessing, but I think twitter prison may be her way of saying she is having difficulty learning to use her NEW phone.

Anonymous said...

Stewmama said...
Do you think any part of this news will have an affect on Kate?
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I know it's hard for some to believe, but Kate really doesn't care about this the way a 'normal' mother would because she's an abuser herself. Narcissists are emotional abusers and many are physical abusers as well. I personally believe Kate is both.

If this story starts to really become a big deal in the media and starts to grow legs, that's when you will see Kate begin to speak out about how 'shocked and horrified' she is about this because it will reflect badly on her and this is really all about her and not those kids. It's always been about her. Narcissists do not see people, including their own children, as people but they see them as tools to get them what they want. This is so hard for people to believe unless you have dealt with a narcissist first hand. Kate does not care for and love her children the way every other mother out there does. She uses them to get what she wants and when they are no longer any use to her, she will shed them from her life.

In my opinion, those kids are not safe in Kate's care. You can bet she's absolutely abusing them emotionally and most likely physically as well. These kids will have many stories to tell when they are old enough to speak up.

Way to Go, Caring Mom said...

Here's Kate's entire Twitter feed, from her only mention of the pedophile arrest, leading up to the "prison" someone else, not her own sense of responsibility, led her to:

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
In twitter prison again... Ugh
26 minutes ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@MiloandJack no problem! ;)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@MiloandJack lol oh good. Our tails wagged here too lol
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Paige_Kate8fan @TheView lol ok. Deal. I like them all. Opinionated strong women who r sitting in chairs of my dreams! ;)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@MiloandJack lol
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Just_Elliee yes I think so..
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@SuperPattyPie Um not really. Gotta get serious... And soon!
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@TrueSelenaLover same to u. I'm signing off soon! Gotta run tomorrow!:)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@tannahhada not sure... I read them as often as I can... Send again? Thx :)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Ilovegosselins keep going! Don't give an option of going back! Well done! Keep it up!
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Kimi_k8 I read all your tweets. Welcome. Great to meet you :)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@lisalu0610 lol ok that's awesome that you'll watch! :)
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@AndreaLRuns I'm nervous for you.... Good luck. I know you can do it..
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@mumbear9 lol
15 hours ago
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
YES! See me on @TheView on Monday! Yay! I love my View ladies! I miss them and can't wait to dish with them on Halloween! Don't miss it!
28 Oct
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@patrailrunner nope. Resting from my 13.66 on wed. Getting anxious to run again- soon!;)
28 Oct
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@SocialNoos final word: reality kids are NOT acting. They are living&breathing in own environments! Huge difference!Leave them all alone!
28 Oct
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
New Q&A posted! Your latest questions answered! Check it out& Email me ur ?'s with 'Ask Kate' in the subject line! kateplusmy8.com
28 Oct
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Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 Bill Blankenship newsobserver.com/2011/10/28/160… NEVER HEARD OF HIM!
28 Oct

Her concern for her kids just shines through, doesn't it?

Audible Click said...

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The digital files that were being edited could also be manipulated in a very bad way. It doesn't matter that he didn't have access to any of the children from all the shows. He is, apparently, a competent video editor and, as such, could have produced films that would be a pedophiles delight. Those films could be in the hands of hundreds or thousands of pedos by now. The films could be on a private pedo website. One reason this guy was caught, and it may be the only reason, is the authorities were running a program that detects high upload and download activity. It pinpoints the actual address. Who knows how long this would have gone on if he hadn't been arrested. Obviously he had many hours of raw footage from many kiddie "reality" shows to play with.

So when Figure 8 and TLC do their "but he didn't have contact with the talent"; ask yourself how many much footage is floating around the 'net or in the hands of pedophiles.

Keep in mind that referring to the children as "talent" is Figure 8's way of manipulating you so you don't read the word "children".

Westcoaster said...

Typical PA weekend for Supermom of 8- twittering and running (in heavy wet snow no less!). Gee, which to believe? And your children are doing what by themselves? It is staggering the detachment she has from the mom role - 10 hour free days x5, carefree weekends, blows you away doesn't it? And this TLC mess, well, in her mind, if this guy was not on set, no problem. She simply cannot imagine, or chooses not to, what access to film footage might mean. And that is simply scary.

Rhymes with Witch said...

And that is simply scary.
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As Admin has said, the rought of Kate being responsible for taking care of anything with more needs than a cactus is scary.

Rhymes with Witch said...

the thought - sorry.

Administrator said...

And as a mother, wouldn't you be on the phone with TLC, Robot and Figure 8 demanding to know if this was the creep you had editing my children's footage, who did you have around my children filming them??? Demanding to know who was around my children, where they came from, what their record was, whether they still have access to the footage.

As a mother there should be 100 questions and demands going through her head. Instead she's off to go ruin her body some more on a long run!

no mo worryin bout me said...

I just wanted to puke when I read this article and comments. You can tell by whats written that they DO read here.
Disclamer: This will be hazardous to your health. Or atleast mine.

http://gosselinfamilyfansite.blogspot.com/2011/10/back-to-australia-for-steve-irwin.html#comments

Sorry if this has been discussed prior. I'm not caught up on all the posts yet.

Gabby2 said...

>>>>Way to Go, Caring Mom said...

Here's Kate's entire Twitter feed,

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I wonder how many twitters fans are pedos???? All those men making wedding proposals to KrazyKate?
Bet on it!

This woman should not be a mother. She has NEVER protected her children from strangers. Wonder what Jon is thinking right now.

chefsummer said...

Stewmama said... Do you think any part of this news will have an affect on Kate? Personally
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Sure I do

If it can it her interviews and she can be on any network faking how much she can about her kids then yes she cares. But then again any press for Kate is good press we've all seen that she's the ulimate spind Dr

Way to Go, Caring Mom said...

Gabby2 said

This woman should not be a mother. She has NEVER protected her children from strangers.

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She has NEVER afforded her children even the basic protections all parents owe their children, including love and attention.

Administrator said...

Well I hardly ever go to the fan sites but I think it's of interest to know how her fans are reacting to this news in this particular case, I did look at that and you know what, I agree with the parenting lessons they posted. I just don't think Kate emulated most of them is the problem!!! Lemons into lemonade? Kate who quit a once in a lifetime camping trip with Sarah Palin turned lemons into lemonade? I don't think so.

The article about Blankinship has only six comments. I can only assume most of her die hard fans cannot defend this one and are quietly retreating into a hole. Although they try to justify it as he was five or six states away (huh? There are only two states between PA and N.C. last time I checked).....it doesn't matter where he is he could be on the moon for all I care, the point is he had the footage in his hands, potentially naked footage.

BUT at least they admit they wouldn't hire him.

And they're saying he was a repeat offender? I didn't see that, that's big news. Where is that?

Look sheeple, no one here is suggesting he had any contact with the kids. I don't think he did! What's important is he had access to what was undoubtedly hundreds of hours of intimate footage of the kids. He made it his life's work to edit hundreds of hours of intimate footage of children. It's not okay, get it? It's exploitation, get it? The Gosselin children and Duggar children and all the TLC children involved are victims and could stand to receive millions in damages, get it?

NOT OK.

Moon Over Miami said...

And as a mother, wouldn't you be on the phone with TLC, Robot and Figure 8 demanding to know if this was the creep you had editing my children's footage, who did you have around my children filming them???

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You would think so. I bet Kate knew about this when it went down. We don't know that she didn't make phone calls and that TLC told her not to discuss it until they could figure out how to handle it.
Her nonchalance scares me, but maybe there's more to it than we know.

In the meantime, she tweets...

@Paige_Kate8fan @TheView lol ok. Deal. I like them all. Opinionated strong women who r sitting in chairs of my dreams! ;)

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She just won't shut up about this, will she? She wants that position on a talk show in the worst way, and by darn, her greed and obsession will keep her going until she lands a job in her dream chair.

on point said...

Good comment from a nonfan on K8's Twazzup feed:

pimpmykids
@kateplusmy8 Kate gets exposed 4 speeding, she jokes about 100 mph, a pedo had access to her kids images, she jokes about prison. TRULY EVIL

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How can Kate even eat with her foot always in her mouth the way it is?

Administrator said...

The sheeple also claim the crew got background checks. Before or after Rep. Murt called them out on this? I cannot find anything anywhere on the net that confirms they did indeed get the background checks. Someone please point me there.

ln fact, last I read, the Department of Labor was refusing to cooperate with Rep. Murt's request that they disclose TLC's background checks, if they even existed--it was written about here on Small Town Gosselins:

http://smalltowngosselins.squarespace.com/blog/tag/pa-representative-murt

Meagler said...

I am always impressed that the only twits she can get to post, is the one that says she is in Twiter prison... So why did just THAT one get through?????

Me no dumb Kate, you just don't want to be twitting today, because you can't stand to see the truth your " haters' are telling you about your irresponsibility, and lack of caring and concern for your kids, whose imagines may be exposed to thousands of geezers who might be salivating in innapropriate ways over the images, of your precious 8.

If I didn't buy into the Mommie Dearest image before today, I do now!

I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said...

The only reason I could see why Khate was invited to The View is because they are dressing up like Nursery Rhyme characters and they need someone to be the Old Woman Who Lived in a Shoe who had so many children she didn't know what to do. Khate lives closer than Octomom. Geesh! My guess, the show will be light hearted and Whoopie and Joy won't get into it. My objection is on The View site- they describe a special reality star guest will be on the show. Special? Geesh!

is dumb contagious? said...

Some fans are trying to explain "Twitter prison:

miloandjack
@GHFAN0 @Kateplusmy8 When Kate tweets that it means probably tweets R not showin up or she is having problems even sendin a tweet!

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Hey, fools, "Twitter prison" means that SOMEONE ELSE TOLD KATE SHE'D BETTER SHUT UP BEFORE SHE SHOOTS HERSELF IN THE HEAD EVEN WORSE THAN SHE HAS ALREADY.

Kate's lawyer, TLC, good old Steve, or someone who knows that she's dumber than a box of hammers finally got her to stop tweeting.

THAT'S what "Twitter prison" is. There's NOTHING wrong with her Twitter account. SHE'S the one who decided NOT to tweet, because she got told how much damage she was doing.

Administrator said...

I have thought the same thing, isn't it interesting the tweet that Kate always manages to get to go through is a Tweet that says oh gosh I'm having trouble on twitter can't get anything to go through SORRY GUYS CATCH YA LATER!!!!

Really think about this.....

Administrator said...

The iPhone twitter app is simple as pie, very easy to use, there is no reason you can't learn how to use it in two minutes flat. And I've never seen it not work. Sooo, right....

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Twitter prison... yeah right.

Kate, you irresponsible jackass.

I refuse watch Kate flap her lying lips on The View. I'll be damned before I contribute to that show's ratings.

Administrator said...

I looked back at some old posts, Paul Petersen was talking about a storm about how the crew didn't have background checks and that background checks should be mandatory. If TLC had given them background checks all along why didn't they jump up and down and say excuse me they have always had background checks. The fact is TLC DIDN'T say that because guess what THEY DIDN'T.

This post about Jodi and Kevin's testimony bears repeating, look at some of the highlights:

Video cameras in children’s bedrooms that operated continuously

Children were filmed in bathroom, often with no parent there

Children were often left alone with crew without parents.

The children would voice dislike of going to events and sit-down interviews

Children cannot "defend, delete, or erase"the private moments that have been filmed

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/04/watch-aunt-jodi-live-at-child-labor.html

Fahnette said...

There's a comment by Ishkabibble at Sage's that just burns it all down. These are real kids that real people are hurting for, and he/she brings it home with such poignant clarity.
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On these items I will agree; Kate may not have known the editor. He probably was never in direct contact with the kids. He was a subcontractor and not a direct TLC employee. And a background check would not have made a difference as he was never arrested before.

But all that doesn't really matter. The fact remains the same; he had access to hours and hours of footage with children in it, be it the Gosselins, Duggars, or whomever else. This was unedited footage as he was an editor - online or otherwise - it makes no difference. What we saw blurred - he saw clearly. What we never saw because of whatever reasons - he saw. This is why there is outrage from people.

If you can't get past the Gosselin side taking . . . think of it this way. Every parent has naked pictures of their children. Back before digital cameras we all took it somewhere to be developed. Do you think no one saw what they were developing? Do you think they couldn't make copies of it if they wanted to? Now lets say you took your film to be processed at "Z Store", and there was the occasional naked picture. Weeks after you took the film in, headlines read that the film processor for "Z Store" was arrested for child pornography. He had been making copies of client's film and distributing them.

Wouldn't your first thought be - OMG, what if he did this with my child's pictures. How many people have possession of my child's pictures? Wouldn't it make you sick to think what may have happened with your innocent pictures? And we didn't even have photoshop back then.

Now can you understand the outrage? Wouldn't it make you sick to know that someone had hours and hours of film of your children and what he may have done with it?

All the television families put their children at risk for this type of situation. However, I don't remember the Duggars or Table of 12 having "potty" scenes or bath scenes, but the Gosselins have. Maybe that's why the outrage towards the Gosselins is stronger.

Both Jon and Kate should be held personally accountable for their choice to put their children's lives on film, and what they allowed to be filmed. (And if you took the time to read all the comments at 15 min, you would see that many are also holding Jon accountable.)

Don't pass the outrage off as Khaters rants! Everyone should be outraged that innocent children have been exploited by these deviant people - because of their parent's shortsightedness and their greed.
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Hats off, Ishkabibble. Keep on.

Administrator said...

Very well reasoned post about Ishkabibble and I will permit it even though it breaks rule 4.

I will never be made to feel that outrage about child pornography is a "hater rant."

It's not, period. It's called getting some basic human protective instincts.

The analogy about getting film developed is a great one. Maybe there was absolutely nothing you could have done to prevent it, but your reaction afterward speaks volumes. A normal loving parent would ask--how did this happen, I trusted this store with my pictures, how could they hire someone like this, WHO ELSE did they hire who is like this, I want all my negatives back do they have anything of mine still, what is the procedure for accounting for negatives and photos at the store and how could it be someone could make copies????

This is not a rant, this is a normal, warm-blooded, protective reaction.

Not, I didn't ever know them. Of course you didn't you ignorant fool.

Administrator said...

And you know what? Why can't everyone just this once just agree that this is outrageous and not okay??? Why can't we ALL be on the same against CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

I'm sorry why would the sheeple even create SIDES on this, good god.

Why do the sheeple turn it into, oh there's the haters over there ranting.

They should be outraged too, it's okay to be. It doesn't mean they are betraying their queen for God sakes. Even they admit she's not perfect.

Administrator said...

On these items I will agree; Kate may not have known the editor. He probably was never in direct contact with the kids. He was a subcontractor and not a direct TLC employee. And a background check would not have made a difference as he was never arrested before.
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I more or less agree with this too. The sheeple need to realize we agree on this.

Just knowing people in the industry and living out here I KNOW you might never even meet the editor, I believe Kate. She didn't know him.

DOESN'T F-ING MATTER.....

Administrator said...

It also begs the question, why is TLC subcontracting so much when it involves little children. IF they are protective of their "talent" why would they be so reckless as to put it in the hands of sub contractors who they have little to no control over.

You don't sub contract a daycare or a school without knowing exactly what their procedure is to hire people who are going to be safe working in an industry involving children, right down to the person sweeping the floor.

mommyinca said...

Hey Kate..a pedophile was editing your "realest reality show with your children in their own environment (not actors)" ....what are you going to do?

Kate's (suspected response) "I'm going on The View!"

I suspect that Kate's defense (when she is pushed against the wall for answers) will be that 1. She had no idea who this was 2. her children were never around this person and 3. my personal favorite and what I think her defense will be.....'Well, um...honestly....um....like...um....there are um...sick people out there...um....who turn their tv's on and um....will do...um....whatever they do...um...regardless of um...like...what they see. My children are my um priority and um thankfully they have never um come in contact with um him. Now let's talk about me!!!!'

Clear as Glass said...

Administrator said

why is TLC subcontracting so much when it involves little children. IF they are protective of their "talent" why would they be so reckless as to put it in the hands of sub contractors who they have little to no control over.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$44

For the obvious reason: Employers hire subcontractors so that they can claim they didn't know what they were doing.

A subcontractor adds one more layer of responsibility, which is a great idea, especially if the work is sketchy.

TLC was doing mitigation from the start.

Fahnette said...

Thanks, Admin.
What struck me about it and made me want to bring it to everyone's attention (even though I stepped on a rule--so sorry!) is that Ishkabibble made such a heartwrenching plea for understanding--if, as you claim, you love the Gosselin children as much as you love your own, wouldn't you be outraged in the same way?--and yet the deflection continues.

So what happens if the investigation turns up the absolute worst? Will they listen then? What will it take?

Administrator said...

Well I agree it's sort of a rhetorical question.

The more subcontracting they do the more they can claim they have nothing to do with anything bad that ever happens on their reality shows.

Newsflash TLC: This is all your fault, too.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that Sage let Ishkabibble's comment stand.

mommyinca said...

I was just thinking...couldn't Kate say that it's no different than taking your children's pictures or video to say Walgreens to have it developed? People working there could be pedophiles?

(I'm just trying to think of all the lame excuses TLC/Figure 8/Kate will come up with to try and downplay this HORRIFIC situation)

Here's another thought.....what if say, an editor working on a Disney or Nick show with children was convicted of the same thing? Don't you think those children's parents would be up in arms? The footage they would have wouldn't be anything CLOSE to what the Gosselin's had! The Gosselins were filmed in their OWN HOME. They are not actors (sorry, Kate...your newest argument will work against you in this instance (see: a tweet from Kate a few days ago where she insists her kids are not actors). I am just stunned. I hope Paul Peterson gives a statement about this. I hope Rep. Murt gets involved and I pray the mainstream media picks up this story and exposes Kate for the heartless person she is! How can a mother NOT be appalled by this? (sorry for the rant...I just get so worked up when I think about it :( )

Anonymous said...

I posted earlier that, since there have been no job offers, she will turn this around and become an advocate for child abuse. To those who did not agree I would like to mention that I meant her future action would be only to keep herself 'out there', a career move, if you will. She will do "anything" to advance herself. Me, me, me, of course I know it's ALL about her.

bm

Administrator said...

The sheeple know full well if it were their own children this happened to they would be outraged and puking and screaming and suing the pants off whoever they could.

They know this.

I think.

Gabby2 said...

I think every show that this man was involved with should be taken off the air worldwide!!!

Administrator said...

Can I answer this? Why this is not the same as a photo booth? This goes back to being a protective parent, but not an overly protective parent.

Getting photos developed is a "necessity" or at least it used to be before digital cameras. Hopefully you're not taking 100 reels of naked photos every time. There is a small risk some pedophile could get their hands on your benign photos. But the alternative is to never have any photos of your family, and in my opinion, it is worth the tiny, tiny risk someone deviant could get their hands on them of the few people that help develop them, because then you have a wonderful album of photos through the years. That is worth the risk.

However, there was no "greater good" in filming the kids, in most people's opinion. Trips, making memories, money could ALL have been done without exposing all their private moments and Kate full well knows it. And the net was cast much wider here! This was exposing them to pedophiles in the hundreds around the world. It was not just a few people in a photo booth. And it was exposing them to anyone who could have watched the show, in addition to many production people over the years.

This, unlike photo booths or other benign situations that every kid is exposed to in order to have a good childhood--like school, sports, photos, was a risk NO ONE HAD TO TAKE. And in fact, that most good parents have chosen not to take or say they wouldn't take.

In life there are risks worth taking with your kids and risks that are unnecessary and not worth it. And without a doubt, filming your children on a reality show for six years is by no stretch of the imagination a risk worth taking.

Mimi to 3 said...

Great comment from Admin, great!

I think she truly thinks she was not at fault, because she did not know him and couldn't control who was contracted, and I don't think she will allow herself to believe that her children's footage was involved. It must be some other kids.


And therein lies the rub with Kate and why we dislike her sooooo much. She can never admit the simple truth even when it smacks her in the face and she is N.E.V.E.R. at fault about anything. Well, yeah, Kate, you are their mother and you and Jon alone are responsible for the people you allow around your young children. Not TLC, not Serious Robots, not Figure 8 -- although of course they have to be held accountable about their employees, but the ultimate responsibility for those children are Jon and Kate. Period. I would be scared out of my mind today just thinking about who might have photos of my kids and just how widespread this is. But no, not Katie. She is more concerned with being on the View, about how far she can run today and about her Twitter. She is more disgusting than she has ever been and buddy, that is saying a LOT.

Pam said...

Is she just a guest on the View this time? Or co-hosting? Because they always dress up in elaborate costumes on Halloween and I cannot picture Kate wanting to dress in a costume. She's way too into her looks and would rather wear a sexy dress and heels.

I'm wondering if they are having her on to mock her ( for a Halloween show ) sort of like they mocked her at the Emmy's. I just have a feeling that her appearance will be short lived and will only last a minute or less because it's for a skit or something silly.

Anonymous said...

I had never gone to a fan site, wasn't ever a fan, nor cared to read their delusional opinions, just seeing the tweets up top and other posters reactions to their sites told me I wouldn't agree with them... but I did click the link provided up top.

It truly boggles my mind that they are completely brushing off the fact that an editor had access to hours and hours of the kids in various states of undress and compromising positions, ie. bath time, potty training, changing, etc. They feel that anyone can edit any picture online and she has done nothing to feel guilty or bad about. Really, so then in their sick minds (yet they call us sick) is it okay to post naked pictures of your children on line and on TV, because they're little and not in sexual positions. REALLY. Because that is what has been done with the Gosselin children and they see nothing wrong with it, nor should the parents, especially Kate, bare any responsibility. REALLY. I don't, can't even begin to understand how someone has no issue with what was filmed or shown on TV from those children's personal lives, not a scripted TV show, but their lives.

The link takes you to them bad mouthing Jon in relation to Michael Lohan. This blows my mind, Jon had a few months of irresponsible behaviour and they talk like its still going on. It hasn't for years, yet that little point seems to be forgotten, why? They can't build up Kate without tearing down Jon? It deflects or somehow excuses Kate's bad behaviour? Bizarre...

Praising Kate for 10 things she taught everyone about parenting, REALLY... I look at her actions and reactions in most situations as what NOT to do!

Smoochie

Kmart Smart said...

All the fame and money was worth it to Kate in exchange for some pedophile getting his jollies. She'd do it all again in a nanosecond even if she were well aware there was a creeper in the editing room. She truly loves the fame and attention more than she does her babies safety. There is no way she'd turn down an opportunity to be on tv just because a perv was in the editing room.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Admin said...

The sheeple also claim the crew got background checks. Before or after Rep. Murt called them out on this? I cannot find anything anywhere on the net that confirms they did indeed get the background checks. Someone please point me there.

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Yes, one of the sheeple referred to the crew as "squeaky clean." Source? I thought background checks were one of Paul Peterson's big issues? This same sheeple has remarked she'd be outraged if Kate ever put the kids in danger by smoking around them (jury still out on that one). But kiddie porn very likely involving the kids' images? Eh, no big deal. So it sounds....

Administrator said...

The sheeple tend to do that, state things as facts (the crew had background checks they're squeaky clean) without any source.

I truly do not remember ever hearing from TLC about the background checks. Does anyone else? I want to know the source on this because if so, I'll stand corrected.

In fact I posted a link to the opposite, that the DOL wasn't responding to Rep Murt's requests about the background checks.

Background checks WERE Paul Petersen and Rep. Murt's big thing. It was written into their own law! They were NOT required for camera crews even if they work with kids. What was required was background checks for people who work with kids but that could easily be interpreted as not including productions, that's not "really" working with kids you're just filming them, unlike a teacher who works directly with them.....i.e. BS.

Turtle Neck said...

Oh yay, Turtle Neck, you didn't know the guy. Join the other parents out there who didn't know their child's abuser...if your kids were in fact sexually exploited...if, that is, you even care to know.

Administrator said...

Here's an open letter from Paul Petersen to TLC after they were given a slap on the wrist by the DOL:

http://www.minorcon.org/tlc1.html

In it he says that TLC NEVER responded to any of the accusations he laid out for them, and in fact, instead just hired a lobbyist from some big firm to actively campaign AGAINST Rep. Murt's bill that REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECKS. TLC was AGAINST background checks, not for it, and that is the FACT.

They never said they got background checks that I can ever find.

no mo worryin bout me said...

Administrator said...I have thought the same thing, isn't it interesting the tweet that Kate always manages to get to go through is a Tweet that says oh gosh I'm having trouble on twitter can't get anything to go through SORRY GUYS CATCH YA LATER!!!!
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I absolutely love this. It brought to memory the musical Camelot where King Arthur asked Merlin "if I thinking the thought, I'm not thinking a thought, that's thinking, isn't it?"

As far as kid actors vs reality kids. I read somewhere that when it comes to kids actors and mature scene, they use stand ins for the disgusting shots. The actors Linda Blair and Hailey Osmon, for an example, Osmon's parents wouldn't even let Hailey see the shows he acted in if they had mature subject matter, and yet he still having problems in his teen yrs. Linda Blair wasn't used in most of the of the demon scenes of the exorcist.

I'll try to find what I read and post it. Until then, I say it is hearsay.

Anyway, Reality kids play every part filmed, regardless of the content.

Bill's Mom said...

Sorry to add to the confusion...

There is an article "Kate Gosselin Wants Her Kids in Commercials" with today's date (10/29/11)and the Earsucker byline, along with a photo. The article says it's by Jed Eckert. Not sure if the article is by Jed Eckert or the photo is by Jed Eckert,but a male is also in the photo and slightly behind Kate. This looks like the same male that was in one of the fall photos, but I can't find that photo. Can anyone tell me who Jed Eckert is and if it's the same male? Either way, why would he be in the photo?
Also, is she still in New York? Is that "tweeter prison?"

barbee said...

never fear, there is some skanky hootchie mama outfit out there with hooker heels that she can wear on The View if they do dress up for Halloween. Funny thing is the outfit will come right out of her own closet. She can go as "Over-tanned, over-bleached straw haired, over-inflated boobed, low-cut topped, crotch-high skirted, hooker heeled Mother-Figure of 8 (count 'em, eight) kids.

Sue Buddy said...

Whew! What an unbelievable (but not really unbelievable) mess this is!

My commentary is here:

Kate Gosselin Chases The Chair of Her Dreams While Speculation Over Arrested Child Pornographer/TLC Editor Rages

Are Kate's tweeties losing their steam for defending this atrocity? They seem to be in hiding.

Ex- Burn AND Psychiatric (Adolescent ICU) Nurse said...

This is an intersting research study on the issues around media coverage of childrem that are victims of sexual abuse and the recognition of the PTSD that follows.

http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/pdf/CV182.pdf

And victims these kids most certainly are, simply by virtue of the violation of boundaries that their parent consented to. Kate's denial of even the potentially negative effects that filming of intimate and private activities, is actually more damaging because these kids have no tools for dealing with the aftermath of their media success.  Look at how other families instinctually surround and protect their children--Elizabeth Smart for example. Children who receive professional intervention can process incredibly horrible, traumatic events and emerge with a positive look to the future and the ability to have healthy relationships. 

Although the media recognizes the importance of protecting the identities of victims, public disclosure has already happened. Any mention of this case will forever be tied to the Gosselin children. This, in addition to the constant media attention that their (insert adjective--your choice!) mother seeks, will haunt them forever. I take no pleasure in saying that the scripts for these childrens' lives have already been written by former child stars.

JudyK said...

Just posted this on Celebitchy in response to a post:

moderation.
October 29th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Anne_000: “She reminds me of Mama Rose, mother of Gypsy Rose Lee & Baby June. Maybe the Rosalind Russell portrayal of her.”
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Off topic, but I got to see Tyne Daly as Mama Rose, in her premiere performance, at the Kennedy Center…three rows CENTER from the stage! I will remember it until the day I die. And as far as Kate, the house is paid for and she is worth millions…she NEVER has to return to nursing, and she never will, and they don’t want her back anyway. You can read countless testimonials from people who were unfortunate enough to work w/ her. She’s stupid, uninformed (never reads a newspaper), can’t write a coherent sentence, cannot spell, and has no talent…BUT, she is ruthless and totally self absorbed and self serving…a total waste of space. Kwanitaka, you are absolutely correct…”being on TV is NOT her right”–perfectly said. She is an entitled NOBODY.

librarylady said...

If she was having actual problems with tweeting, either the "twitter prison" one would NOT go through, or else any other ones she sent (even to test her twittering) would ALSO come through.

She is not tweeting because she was told not to or is choosing not to - you can't make the one lone tweet that says you "can't tweet" magically go through and nothing else will. Doesn't work that way. Duh to the sheeple.

not so said...

JudyK said

as far as Kate, the house is paid for

$$$$$

Who says? They took out a big mortgage, and it's probably still outstanding.

Kate wouldn't have bothered to make her finances more secure by paying off the house. Her only interest is in immediate gratification - for herself, only.

librarylady said...

ha ha! Just saw her additional tweets. She's trying to salvage her misleading statement. How timely! :P

Dee said...

Very nice job, Sue Buddy, as ever.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980680896

You said it all.

Midnight Madness said...

Kate tweeted that "we are shoveling our six inches of snow" and they lost power.

A sheeple tweeted...

vanessamfan2
@Kateplusmy8 awwww. how do u lose power?


I think this just about sums up the intelligence level of her tweeties.

BTW...anyone actually believes that Kate is shoveling that long driveway? Not a chance! Mowing companies also have snow removal services. One sweep, and no more snow.

cherier1 said...

Omg. I am so disgusted. How many of us have been raising a stink about the fact that background checks were apparently never done?

How many Sheeple said it was no big deal and Kate was watching out for her kids.

Jodi and Kevin must be sick to their stomaches over this.

Has Kart made any comment?

Hippie Chick said...

shocked, i'm shocked said...
Yeah, who would have ever guessed that a pedophile would work on a show where babies and chlldren were videotaped naked, on potties, being dressed, in their bedrooms and in other private moments?

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Who would think that a PARENT would allow this to be filmed? That is what blows me away. All of it, down to the editing, but if Kate or Jon hadn't let it be filmed in the first place...there is blame all around. No background check is the biggie, but also, ignorant, fame-whoring parents is another.

~HC~

Tucker's Mom said...

Dear God, I went over to read comments on BM's site and I'm stymied at the stupidity.
Klovers just do not get it. This TLC employee IS NOT CHARGED WITH EVER TOUCHING A CHILD OR MOLESTING A CHILD OR BEING IN CONTACT WITH A CHILD!!
He is charged with trafficing in child porn. That mean, dear stupid lemmings, that he sells images. Get it?
How do these imbeciles not get that the this pedophile has had unfettered access to the Gosselin children's footage for YEARS?
Images, including various states of undress AND total nudity, that he could have used for himself or others.
Do the Klovers think that this pedophile's urges were non-existent when viewing countless hours of TLC's kiddies?
It doesn't work that way.
This makes me so sick.

steff said...

As a former victim, I don't even know what to say about this. It makes me physically ill to realize how many children this person had access to video of. While he may not have had physical access to the many children on the shows he edited, he did have 100's of hours of uncensored video footage. To do whatever he wanted with. As far as I can remember, only the Gosselin kids & the Toddlers & Tiara's kids are the only ones video taped in stages of undress, in bathing suits, diapers, & in bathtubs. While the Duggars have their own issues, they are adamant that no skin ever be shown anywhere. They don't even leave their adult children alone for 2 seconds, much less their little kids. The Hayes from Table of 12 quickly ended filming instead of taking the cash....I have to respect them for that. They shut it down, when, of all the families we see, they could have actually used the money to care for their disabled daughter. But they didn't.

As far as the fact that there are pedophiles everywhere...yes there are. BUT, there is a difference between finding out that a fireman (who isn't in contact with kids or have unlimited access to kids or videos of kids) and finding out that there's a man out there with 100's of hours of video of your kids in various stages of undress. And that man was hired because you choose to exploit your kids. Yes, he would still be a pedophile without having video of Kate's kids, BUT, the fact is, he DID have unlimited access to videos of them. And Kate allowed filming of things that no other show allowed. Potty training, poop shots (which would give another fetish a big thrill), bathtime, running around in diapers & nothing else. As parents, yes we allow our babies to run around the house in a diaper & nothing else....we let them run around the house butt naked after a bath, giggling & laughing as we chase them. But we don't allow strangers in to film that & then pass that film onto another stranger to edit to put onto tv for millions of strangers.

I believe so strongly in kids privacy that I will not put any pics of my kiddo's friends on my facebook page. I have tons of pics of them playing football, around a bonfire, playing golf, playing cards, 4 wheelers & dirtbikes, being in general kids....but they aren't MY kids. I have NO rights to put pics of them out on the internet without their parents knowledge & consent.

I have 1 pic I took of my kiddo when he was about 3...we were on vacation & he was on his first trip after potty training. He's a boy, so while on the ranch, he pee'd "the man" way...on a tree outside. I took a pic of his shiny white butt as he was doing his business. When he was little, I kept the pic in a photo album....as he grew up, it embarrassed him, so I took it out. It's now in the bottom of my jewerly box along with his baby teeth. His privacy & self esteem/worth was more important than keeping a cute pic visible.

Has Kate or the Toddlers & Tiara's moms ever thought about their kids feelings & self esteem when it comes to pics & video of their kids floating around outside their homes? How can a parent not put that first instead of fame & money? How can a parent not become physically ill at the idea & proof that a child abuser had unlimited access to uncensored video of their children????????????? What is wrong with these parents?

Dulcina said...

vanessamfan2
@Kateplusmy8 awwww. how do u lose power?

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Thanks for the smile.

This whole debacle is making me ill.

no mo worryin bout me said...

Admin.,I was posting about the comments on that link making me sick. The other thing that bought puke to my mouth was the fact that she is returning to Australia for Steve Irwin day. Someone is really getting the PRIZE of getting to sit with her at Steve's recognition dinner. Sorry but I think I would have no apatite for that one. Also, who is paying for this trip/prize. She has bragged that she is to broke to do things on her own dime.

Dulcina said...

cherier1, her only comment was that she never heard of this guy.

Tucker's Mom, I did a rare survey of 3 of the 4the fan blogs that I'm aware of and was stunned at the level of stupidity I read.
Ignorance is curable. Stupidity is willful ignorance.

steff said...

My long post I just wrote & posted vanished....

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Tucker's Mom- I hear you! Sheeple- But but but the G8 weren't touched or molested.. They don't seem to get someone using images of kids for self gratification.

I want a pair of the sheeple glasses, as this topic is very disturbing. Kate's choice to film the crap out of the kids (God know what is on film as the majority of filming never made it to the show) and the fact that she never even considered this aspect is alarming! She is one self absorbed narcissistic piece of crap. It was never about the kids for her; was always ALL about her!!

no mo worryin bout me said...

Kate does not need to dress in a costume for the view. She just has to show up as herself. Remember the holloween costume complete with wig a couple of Holloweens ago?

Administrator said...

Steff I pulled your post out of the spam folder it was NOT spam, hate that folder.

Aw it's snowing. Time to pack up the hooker heels and halter tops. That's all that's on Kate's mind today as the rest of the rational world who has heard about this is outraged.

Administrator said...

Steff said:

As far as the fact that there are pedophiles everywhere...yes there are. BUT, there is a difference between finding out that a fireman (who isn't in contact with kids or have unlimited access to kids or videos of kids) and finding out that there's a man out there with 100's of hours of video of your kids in various stages of undress. And that man was hired because you choose to exploit your kids.

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Well said. There probably are pedophiles everywhere. That's a risk you take letting your child go out there in the world. But you don't send your child to an unlicensed school or day care or let them go over to a friends house and you've never met the parents no more than you put your child on a reality tv show, including filming potty time and bath time and naked kids.

At the very least, if Kate had to do a reality show, she could have chosen not to ever have the kids filmed in those situations. At least then we wouldn't have to worry so much about all of that private footage that is out there.

I would say a good rule of thumb at BARE MINIMUM is that if they need to blur out something, you've gone too far.

Everyone has taken their kid to Walmart and sure, a creep might have followed you around. But at least you didn't parade your child through Walmart naked, left the stall door open while your child went potty and let the creep film it, or "invite" that creep "into" your home by handing over 100's of hours of home movies. Huge difference.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

I am thinking of changing my name to "Entitled Nobody"- does fit Kate well.

Administrator said...

Here's where TLC/Kate are talking out of two sides of their mouths.

On the one hand, they have been telling us for years this is safe there is nothing to worry about Kate says her kids are safe.

On the other, now Kate says I didn't even know the guy!

So, how can you possibly assure us your kids are safe if you don't even know who is working on your show??? You can't have it both ways.

chefsummer said...

Kate can dress up as a real mom for hollween

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Great Post steff - Says it all!!

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

I agree, Sue Buddy did a great job in her article.

Yex said...

Wait a sec., this guy had access to many hours of raw VIDEO material of these children - was he putting together and distributing "movies/pictures" for his pedo-buddies?
Such people (and they may not even be pedophiles themselves) are the worst kind of scumbags IMO.

But the irony is that he (if he was indeed doing that kind of despicable thing) may have very well earned more money than Kate took for those 2 seasons of "Kate+8".

Hey, Kate, he took the food out of your babies' mouths! Git 'im, git 'im!!!

(pardon my English, not fom US)

Tucker's Mom said...

The article about Blankinship has only six comments. I can only assume most of her die hard fans cannot defend this one and are quietly retreating into a hole
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When I checked, it was 8 comments. I think Admin in right. How can anyone defend this? You must assume that a percentage of those viewing J&K+8 and K+8 are pedophile. Statistically, this is a certainty.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Sue Buddy said...

Whew! What an unbelievable (but not really unbelievable) mess this is!

My commentary is here:

Kate Gosselin Chases The Chair of Her Dreams While Speculation Over Arrested Child Pornographer/TLC Editor Rages

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Thank you for posting your thoughtful commentary.

It's a shame Kate (or her sheeple) does not understand how serious this situation is.

steff said...

And now on her twitter she's so upset over broken trees?????? Has anyone ever seen her "so upset" over ANYTHING that has to do with her children? She'll cry for trees, but not for her children's privacy. She'll cry for trees, but not even bat an eye at a pedophile having access to video of her children. Those poor innocent trees!

I'm so sick to my stomach over the privacy of innocent children being violated...but Kate is sick to her stomach over a couple of tree branches.

What the hell is wrong with this picture?????????????????????????????

Tucker's Mom said...

The snow in the NE is crazy! I'm in No. Va. in the DC area and just now the rain/sleet has turned to big, fat snow. It's not going to lay anywhere (unless the temp drops another 10 degrees overnight) but it's just crazy.
SNOCTOBER!
DH and I are avid farmers market goers and we froze our tooshies off this morning at one. But, that endevour has turned into a butternut squash and pumpkin lasagna and creamy cauliflower soup.
Oh, and I've got chicken stock simmering on the stovetop.

Twittering and a Twattering said...

The sheeple are upset and concerned because poor Kate is all alone in a frightening snowstorm. Whatever will she do? Gawd - it's SNOW! We do get storms in the mid-Atlantic, always have, always will. This isn't a major earthquake.
Everything is all about HER, her safety in this weather, being without power. You deal with it. She's a big girl. Can do Kate, remember, sheeple?

Dulcina said...

Maybe TLC told her if she shuts up they will take care of HER?
None of them give a damn about the children.

(I am not referring to Jon, as he came to his senses some time back)>

In the Neighborhood said...

The snow in the NE is crazy! I'm in No. Va. in the DC area and just now the rain/sleet has turned to big, fat snow. It's not going to lay anywhere (unless the temp drops another 10 degrees overnight) but it's just crazy.

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It is very crazy here. It's been snowing non-stop since 8:30 this morning and the roads are horrible. The sirens are going constantly...accidents everywhere. I couldn't even report a power outage because the electric company has volumes of phone calls that it can't handle. Who would have thought this would happen before Halloween? We haven't had a White Christmas in quite a few years, but we have a White Halloween! It's going to be a very cold night.

Bibby said...

J&K Plus 8
Duggars
Table For Twelve
Toddlers and Tiaras


Guess which show is the ONLY one that has footage of nude children? Children on potties, children in the bathtub, children with their parts blurred, children getting a turd pulled out of their butt in the back of a van.

There's only one show, Kate. Yours.





I wonder what episode that was where Mady was on the basement floor writing around ( in the Andrews Ave house ) with her legs spread apart. Was this guy the editor for THAT episode? She was ALONE in the basement with a cameraman doing that and I remember being absolutely shocked that this was happening.

Bibby said...

Bibby said...


I wonder what episode that was where Mady was on the basement floor writing around ( in the Andrews Ave house ) with her legs spread apart.

October 29, 2011 2:03 PM




writing around was meant to be writhing around.

Rhymes with Witch said...

There have been so many comments that I can't remember who said this but I agree, SHE IS A PIMP.

Rhymes with Witch said...

This is an unattributed quote that I agree with:


Kate,

"You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot."

Kate doesn't rate said...

Bibby, I was thinking about that episode with Mady on the floor writhing just today. I remember thinking that the camera was on that for waaaay too long. Shouldn't have been filmed at all. Where was Kate?

Anonymous said...

What is truly sad is that Kate is tweeting about how upset she is with the trees lining her driveway not making it thru the wet, heavy snow, branches everywhere ... yet when asked about an editor on her show being arrested for child pornography, her response was 'don't know him', no reaction other than that. No horror, no upset posting, no wondering what on earth this man might have seen or done with images of her children.

Now the sheeple are worried about her in the snowstorm, without power, yet deflected and blamed the haters for the story about the child pornographer. I'm truly speechless at how blind and deluded these people are!

Smoochie

Administrator said...

I don't get why a little snowstorm like this would upset her sheeple. I lived in PA for years and I'm watching live video of this storm on the various east coast football games today. This is a little shower, this is nothing. It DOES snow in PA. Yeah it's a little early but it's not like it's July. I'm actually surprised the power is out, good grief get it together. I've lived in this climate and now in the climate I'm in now I see the same panicked reactions when it rains. Grab an umbrella and go on with your day, I don't get it!

Dallas Lady said...

She had to be TOLD to reserve her phone's power for emergency calls instead of twittering because her power is out and she doesn't have a generator. When that FINALLY got through to her, she got off twitter.

Seriously, I know it's been said before, but WHAT an IDIOT.

And she isn't concerned about those trees. It's just drama meant to get her attention and sympathy.

Administrator said...

No kidding. An iPhone powers run down FAST especially if you are using Apps.

Also, why doesn't Miss Organized and Prepared have a generator. I'm sorry but that is just dumb especially in a rural area with eight kids. If a serious enough ice storm or snow storm hits it could be days before power is restored. Come on Kate, they cost 100 bucks at home depot.

I remember the old days where my other phone would last several days. Nowdays my iPhone lasts a day and that's if I'm not even using it that much. Heavy use with a lotta apps like twitter and it's done by dinner time.

Administrator said...

She actually might care about the trees if those are the same trees that were given to her as a freebie for that episode about landscaping.

She will protect her freebies at all costs. Pedophiles? Ehh, who cares.

Anonymous said...

Actually Admin the snow is pretty bad here right now.
We have over 10 inches so far and our neighbors are losing trees all around us. Her trees are HUGE on her drive and I can just imagine the mess.

This isn't a typical NE snow storm because normally when it snows like this the trees have already lost their leaves. I've seen some my neighbors out with big long sticks trying to bang the snow off the hanging branches in their backyard to save what they can.

However I did have this one thought: OH My how will she ever clear all of that by tomorrow so she can get to NY for 'The View'. That's probably why she's so upset.

Administrator said...

I've seen many 10 inch storms there. Dozens at least. It's not something folks shouldn't be used to.

But with all the leaves on the trees because it's early I can see how that is a problem, didn't think of that. Normally the leaves are gone when we get big storms.

She probably is peeing her pants about the View. She's got to get there!

JudyK said...

I'm in Oklahoma and was w/o power for three days after I moved into my new home ten (10) years ago (and I'm REALLY alone--NO STEVE)...her whining is nauseating me. I had 16" of snow last winter...this is not the Apocalypse...GROW THE "F" UP! And, Tucker's Mom, you have the right attitude...you ROCK!

Lake Up North said...

You know after spending the day with my kids at a Halloween attraction, I cannot understand how Kate does not know, or plays this fool card she does not bother to know who has access to her kids, physical or otherwise in her position as "producure."

This whole thing is terrible. I hope situation is handled but I sincerely wish Kate would wake up and actually be more involved in what is going on around her. Things happen, its her lake of awareness or I'm innocent that sets her up to look like this. Educate yourself as a parent Kate, do that one favor to your kids.

And for pity sake, even mediocre people like me own a generator in case of a power outage or otherwise. If she is willing to cough up for her hair, nails and tan its the least she could do. But she appears to busy to whine about it.

Administrator said...

Plus it's the weekend. This is great for Kate and the family because they can just stay home and stay safe inside. I used to love weekend storms like this, cuddle up with some homework and a cup of coffee or hot cocoa, cat at my feet. Comfort food for dinner. Loved it. Snow storms like this start to become a problem when everyone is on the road for school and work. A Saturday storm is ideal.

JudyK said...

One more thing...yes, this storm is creating havoc for MANY people because the leaves are still on the trees for the most part...(it's not all about you, Kate)...and I didn't mean to pooh pooh what others are going through. I am just beyond sick of her entitlement and whining and not being able to deal with inconveniences that everyone else has to deal with, as though she's the ONLY person affected or inconvenienced.

Administrator said...

I think it's a bit annoying when people complain about snowstorms or rain or wind or whatever relatively mild weather occurrences that happen all the time. It's actually one reason I moved from the East Coast, I was tired of the constant griping about weather. Everyone deals with it, and I think a lot of people who have been through hurricanes or earthquakes or tornados will happily deal with a little snowstorm any day of the week. Kate is not special.

TLC ship is sinking said...

Administrator said...In it he says that TLC NEVER responded to any of the accusations he laid out for them, and in fact, instead just hired a lobbyist from some big firm to actively campaign AGAINST Rep. Murt's bill that REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECKS. TLC was AGAINST background checks, not for it, and that is the FACT.
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If TLC, Figure 8, or the Gosselins had done background checks, you would think they would admit this publicly to avoid all this legal drama.

In California, teaching and childcare positions require a livescan (electronic fingerprinting) that can check for criminal history from CA's DOJ (Department of Justice) and FBI. It is also required in applying for a CA teaching credential. Even with that credential, every district I've worked at required another livescan for their own records. Over the years, I've paid anywhere from $15-$77, depending on different city services or if the employer pays a portion.

Does a background check provide 100% protection for kids? Unfortunately no, if the person has no prior criminal history. I still hear about this sort of stuff occasionally on the local news.

However, it is a red flag for me if a company refuses to do any background checks. It's as if they've got something to hide. I'd rather spend the money to screen my employees than have something like this mess unfold to hurt my company's reputation and business.

Administrator said...

I agree, a company that works with kids that isn't doing background checks is suspect. Most professions that work with kids REQUIRE it, there are national child protection laws REQUIRING it for foster parents or any relatives who are taking in children, I had to do it myself to be licensed as a lawyer, and I did it again at my job since any time you are in family law you're bond to encounter kids.

Background checks do not guarantee nothing will happen. But it sure does help to make sure that when the unthinkable does happen, at least you can rest assured that it wasn't on their background when you hired them and thus easily preventable.

Can you image what it's going to be like if this guy DOES turn up with priors? Talk about liability.

There's something in the law called "being put on notice." If an employer knew or should have known about something in an employee's background and they did nothing, and then that same something or similar something happens again, they can end up very screwed in a court of law since they KNEW.

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

admin said, Everyone deals with it, and I think a lot of people who have been through hurricanes or earthquakes or tornados will happily deal with a little snowstorm any day of the week. Kate is not special.

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So true. Actually, though, this one isn't just a little snowstorm, but it's nothing that she or anyone else can't deal with. Trees are down, power lines are down, and it's bitter cold and we're without power, and therefore we have no heat. The power companies can't keep up with the volumes of calls, and I was just told that it full power won't be restored until tomorrow at the earliest. This is a nor'easter - they always bring rain in October, but not this time. It's a nasty one.

I hope Kate had powered up her new phone before the storm hit. It's not like we weren't warned, but with Kate never being able to think ahead, who knows!

Facebook is ridiculous said...

In life there are risks worth taking with your kids and risks that are unnecessary and not worth it.

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Please rationalize Facebook then. How many of you have pictures plastered all over Facebook of your kids? Do you perosnally KNOW or do BACKGROUND CHECKS of all your "friends"?

That's a risk I'm not willing to take. Are you?

Wrong! said...

Linda Blair wasn't used in most of the of the demon scenes of the exorcist.

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Oh yes she was. Many interviews with her stating that.

TLC ship is sinking said...

Kate Gosselin
@MiloandJack @BarbGilmer I've lost most of my driveway trees to the heavy snow. We are stuck bc of branches. 8+ inches of snow now
2 hours ago
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Is this why Kate is so concern about her ruined trees? Because they might prevent her from getting to NYC to be on The View? She's probably wishing she should have stayed in NYC this weekend and left the kids with Jon.

I've heard some people are having battery problems with the new iphone 4S. Something is making the battery drain, even in standby. Apple engineers are personally contacting users trying to access the situation.

Administrator said...

Are you seriously comparing this to people who are RESPONSIBLE on Facebook? I have never seen anyone I know on Facebook put naked pictures of their kids on there like Kate filmed her kids naked. If you do that's just dumb. I have never seen any kids' pictures that were any worse than a picture you could find just by picking up a JC Penney kids catalogue. Please.

Plus you're supposed to KNOW your friends and family on Facebook. Kate didn't even know this guy! It's easy to make your account such that only family and friends can see it. It's no different than the old days where people would email a bunch of people their kid pictures.

Kate not knowing this guy but letting him access all her videos would be akin to accepting a random male's friend request and letting them see all your kids' pictures. No one rational would do that.

It's wrong to be irresponsible on Facebook and it's wrong to be irresponsible when you film your kids. No difference. Nice try though!

kimmie said...

Administrator said...

And as a mother, wouldn't you be on the phone with TLC, Robot and Figure 8 demanding to know if this was the creep you had editing my children's footage, who did you have around my children filming them??? Demanding to know who was around my children, where they came from, what their record was, whether they still have access to the footage.

As a mother there should be 100 questions and demands going through her head. Instead she's off to go ruin her body some more on a long run!
October 29, 2011 10:01 AM

how do you or any of us know she hasn't done these things? just because we don't know it or see it ie; she isn't saying it, doesn't mean it isn't so.

also doesn't mean kate isn't sick over the horrible possibilities that this guy has/had pix of her kids.

please do not think all those who don't hate kate don't think this is horrifying. i do. i think any child pornography is disgusting and evil.

i don't think background checks would have prevented any of this. i just think the blame should not be put on kate. put it on the child pornographer. otherwise you're just muddying the waters.

i recently served on a jury on a case of child molestation. everything came down to one point; did we believe he did it (from the evidence). all the rhetoric of the attornies made no difference. it just mudddied the waters and we had to dig out the evidence and go on that. the same should apply here.

oh and we didn't blame the mom; it was her boyfriend and she was asleep on a sunday morning while her bf and child were awake in the living rooom. at the end of the day the guy was going to do it at some time to some child in some situation. you just can't predict who is a pedophile and who is not.

Administrator said...

Do you perosnally KNOW or do BACKGROUND CHECKS of all your "friends"?
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I KNOW all my friends on Facebook, FYI. And I don't put anything on there I wouldn't for a public account. I don't background my friends because I KNOW them. You can never be fully protected or be fully assured a friend won't betray you, the other option is to have no friends. But you can observe people over the years and get to know their environment and their other friends and form a pretty accurate sense.

That's the difference here--friends, in my opinion, are a necessity of life and worth the SMALL risk that one of them might be some deviant who hid it well and you never suspected. But filming a reality show is no where near one of life's necessities and not worth the risk!

Kate did not KNOW some random crew coming into her house which is why they need background checks at a minimum.

If Kate wanted to gather her own crew she knows well, like of church guys and girls or other friends and teach them how to film a reality show, that would be an entirely different matter.

In her own words, she had no clue who this guy was. Her own words.

There is no one on my Facebook I have no clue who they are. Not even close.

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

However I did have this one thought: OH My how will she ever clear all of that by tomorrow so she can get to NY for 'The View'. That's probably why she's so upset.

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The limo can pick her up at the end of the driveway?

kimmie said...

Administrator said...

Do you perosnally KNOW or do BACKGROUND CHECKS of all your "friends"?
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I KNOW all my friends on Facebook, FYI. And I don't put anything on there I wouldn't for a public account. I don't background my friends because I KNOW them. You can never be fully protected or be fully assured a friend won't betray you, the other option is to have no friends. But you can observe people over the years and get to know their environment and their other friends and form a pretty accurate sense.

That's the difference here--friends, in my opinion, are a necessity of life and worth the SMALL risk that one of them might be some deviant who hid it well and you never suspected. But filming a reality show is no where near one of life's necessities and not worth the risk!

Kate did not KNOW some random crew coming into her house which is why they need background checks at a minimum.

If Kate wanted to gather her own crew she knows well, like of church guys and girls or other friends and teach them how to film a reality show, that would be an entirely different matter.

In her own words, she had no clue who this guy was. Her own words.

There is no one on my Facebook I have no clue who they are. Not even close.
October 29, 2011 3:30 P

just a comment how how you know your friends...many women know their husbands, fathers, uncles, boyfriends and would never even think they would be molesters and yet we hear of that every day.

it just cannot be the fault of the wife, mother, aunt, girlfriend. put the blame where it belongs!

Sherry Baby said...

Bibby, I was thinking about that episode with Mady on the floor writhing just today. I remember thinking that the camera was on that for waaaay too long. Shouldn't have been filmed at all. Where was Kate?

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Wasn't there also a clip of one of the tup girls on the interview couch where she was squirming and her panties were shown?

Administrator said...

please do not think all those who don't hate kate don't think this is horrifying. i do. i think any child pornography is disgusting and evil.
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Then why don't you post that on your sheeple sites??? I don't see that anywhere.

Kimmie, holding a parent accountable for the protection of their children is not "muddying the waters." Parents every day lose their children not because they abused them directly, but because they did not sufficiently protect them from abuse from someone else.

The case you worked on appears to be a case where the mother truly had no idea, was asleep, and acted appropriately I assume when she found out. Of course no one would blame her. But what if she found out and tried to claim she didn't know the boyfriend? Or what if she found out and tried to tell her daughter she must be mistaken? Or that they shouldn't call the cops? Or what if she continues to let her boyfriend sleep over even knowing this happened? Mothers like this one? LOSE THIER KIDS.

It's obvious that the perpetrator should be blamed. But Kate handed her kids over to him. Unlike the sleeping mother in your case, Kate was wide awake when she allowed her children to be filmed naked and handed the footage over to strangers she didn't even know. I'm sorry, you are not going to convince me she is not responsible for this.

YOU are muddying the waters by trying to make an argument we are blaming the victim. We are NOT. The victim is the kids, not Kate. Kate did not protect her children, period.

Wait a Minute said...

kimmie said

it just cannot be the fault of the wife, mother, aunt, girlfriend. put the blame where it belongs!

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It sure IS the fault of the wife, mother, aunt, girlfriend if they allowed filming of a child naked, using the potty, rolling around the floor with legs spread, and if they allowed unattended filming in bedrooms and bathrooms.

KATE DID ALL OF THESE THINGS. SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING SOLD HER CHILDREN'S MOST PRIVATE MOMENTS TO A PEDOPHILE.

She paid no attention to warnings from friends, family, even non-pedophile strangers on the internet. SHE IS GUILTY OF ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

Her own very young daughter made a sign telling camera men to stay out of her bedroom. How stupid do you have to be to not understand how terrible that is?

Sherry Baby said...

Oh yes she was. Many interviews with her stating that.

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Oh yes, indeed she was. I remember when she was interviewed right after that happened. I don't know why I remember this, but I do. The subject of the masturbation scene with the crucifix was brought up. Because of her young age, she was asked if she knew what she was doing in that scene. She kind of smiled, and said, "Yes."

fidosmommy said...

Oh, the sheeple aren't talking about the big news because they've heard it all before. Kate gets
maniphiles and pedophiles at the nail salon all the time. Why is everyone all upset about it now?

Snark

I realize the subject is not funny. But you know these big words can confound some.....

Administrator said...

just a comment how how you know your friends...many women know their husbands, fathers, uncles, boyfriends and would never even think they would be molesters and yet we hear of that every day.

it just cannot be the fault of the wife, mother, aunt, girlfriend. put the blame where it belongs!

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Kimmie? RANDOM ACTS OF ABUSE are not the fault of those who truly did not know. STOP CONFUSING THE ISSUES.

EVERYONE ADMITS THAT RANDOM ACTS SOMETIMES HAPPEN. THIS WAS NOT RANDOM!

HUGE DIFFERENCE: Kate knew. Kate filmed her kids NAKED, then handed it over, and knew all about it. And she knew that she didn't know who was editing her kids. This was...not...random.

Random acts don't happen when freaking three-hundred people on this blog have been warning with sirens and red flags for TWO YEARS this could happen!!!

This was not a case of an aunt or uncle or close friend stealing Gosselin home movies and turning them into porn. If that were the case, and if parents had no idea, of course parents should not be blamed.

You astound me, Kimmie.

Administrator said...

Let me spell this out for you very simply kimmie, have you read the posts here we have said this so many times: There is NOTHING anyone can do but be a protective parent. Sometimes things will happen when you are the most protective parent in the world, and that's how life goes sometimes.

But when you are not being a protective parent, as was the case here, and something happens, it IS your fault.

Administrator said...

Let's think about what really happened here, taking Kate out of the equation.

A mother filmed her kids on the potty, naked, bath time, and illness. A mother then sent that footage to someone in another state, a 50-something year old man, a man she had never met, never seen, knew absolutely nothing about. And she allowed him to spend about three years doing what he liked with the footage.

NO ONE WOULD DO THIS TO THEIR KIDS. NO ONE. Except maybe Kimmie and a few sheeple.

kimmie said...

i did post the same thing at sage's in reply to ishkabibble.

sigh...my point is that the mom didn't know and obviously did trust the bf with her daughter.

kate trusted that her kids were protected as well.

wait a minute; like i said moms allow dads to do these things...and some dads molest. my point is that no matter how you try you can't always know the people you trust.

what i see is that this situation is coming right back to the differences haters and non haters have always had: if filming is exploitative. sorry i even tried to let you know that i and other non haters aren't saying this child pornography is wrong and horrible...it obviously becomes the same old argument.

but thanks for allowing my posts. i do appreciate that.

kimmie said...

aren't above should be are

Administrator said...

Wait a Minute, AMEN. It is a parents' fault when you knew or should have known. The courts have said this. Mothers have lost their kids over this, do so on a daily basis. The law says

Look at just California law where I'm from, the Welfare and Institutions Code, section 300(b). This talks about abuse of a child when the parent is NOT the perp, and says that you as a parent are responsible WHEN the abuse occurred "as a result of the failure or inability of his or her parent or guardian to adequately supervise or protect the child, or the willful or
negligent failure of the child's parent or guardian to adequately
supervise or protect the child."

Get it? Failure to adequately PROTECT THE CHILD. Sounds like Kate to a T.

It's only not a parents' fault when they had no way to know or should have known.

In the Neighborhood said...

I don't get why a little snowstorm like this would upset her sheeple. I lived in PA for years and I'm watching live video of this storm on the various east coast football games today. This is a little shower, this is nothing. It DOES snow in PA. Yeah it's a little early but it's not like it's July. I'm actually surprised the power is out, good grief get it together. I've lived in this climate and now in the climate I'm in now I see the same panicked reactions when it rains. Grab an umbrella and go on with your day, I don't get it!

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I don't know what area you are seeing, but this is not a little snow shower. Our neighbor just had his huge pine tree fall on his roof and through his bedroom window. You can't go on with your day when you have no heat, no electricity, and the emergency restoration companies have so many calls that they tell you that they can't get to you until at least tomorrow afternoon for a board-up and you're sitting there with a gaping hole in your roof and snow blowing in through your window.

I'm looking at photos of the damages online, and it's amazing what 10 inches of heavy, wet snow can do. A power line came down about half a mile from here, and the driver is trapped in the car. The snow and slush on the roads tonight will turn to solid ice, so I imagine that the ER rooms will be busy. A "normal" winter snowstorm during the weekend is fun, let it pile up, drink hot chocolate and sit by the fire.

This one is anything but fun. I feel like I should be wrapping Christmas presents, not getting candy ready for trick-or-treaters!

Oops...there goes the power again. I hope that this is not a prediction of things to come this winter.

Administrator said...

my point is that no matter how you try you can't always know the people you trust.
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Kimmie, what you're not understanding is that if you read posts here, most people agree with you on this point. You cannot stop random acts of violence, usually. You can only do your best.

The part you are not understanding is that this was no random act. Kate knew or should have known. You disagree, which I find astounding. Especially since we pretty much told you right here for about two years this was going to happen.

Head meet sand.

Administrator said...

ou can't go on with your day when you have no heat, no electricity, and the emergency restoration companies have so many calls that they tell you that they can't get to you until at least tomorrow afternoon

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We did it for seven days once. I'm a tough gal from an area far north of PA. Doesn't scare me! :-)

Administrator said...

kate trusted that her kids were protected as well.

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No she didn't. All Kate cared about was making sure child labor laws didn't stop her gravy train. She actively opposed a law requiring background checks and only a few days ago made fun of the man who wants background checks essentially calling him a fame whore.

Administrator said...

Kimmie I thought Sage banned you? I'm surprised they let you post there.

In the Neighborhood said...

I was looking at Kate's tweets - her tweeties are telling her how to stay warm in her car, and that she can charge her phone in her car, reminding her to open the garage door. Hysterical! Wouldn't she know to do that? She's milking this snow for all it's worth, like her sheeple are her only link to the outside world, relying on them for safety advice.
Such fools these mortals be...

Anonymous said...

She has a fireplace - but it's a phony. Figures. She's all about keeping up appearances.

bm

Administrator said...

Oh lord that's scary and bad advice too. The last thing you need to do is run you battery down when you might need to drive a kid to the hospital in an emergency, or go pick up fuel for the generator, or food, or any other essentials during a bad storm.

anger issues kate said...

Let's see: 10 inch snow fall, perhaps Kate won't be on the View, 2. unless they filmed monday so Elizabeth and Sherri and Joy and Whoopi could spend time with their kids. 3. Kate went home from NYC? 4. Kate says the power is out, and does not know when it will be on. 5. kate also said that the trees lining her driveway have broke, then said that the driveway is clear and the branches are on the side: Question: who plowed the driveway?
As for this child porn guy: who is to say that this guy while editing the G8 footage, of when they went to the potty, diaper change, clothing change, that this perv, did not make copy of the footage that was cut, and made into pics and sold it/sent it to other pervs. Kate has got to be one of the stupidest mothers on the planet. Kate should be mad and concerned that the pics this guy was doing, did not include, what I mentioned above, about her kids. If I were in that situation I would be getting a gun to shoot that sick twisted perv. I would want to see those pics to make sure none of my childrens pics were among them. But Kate only worries about herself and her career, not those kids..

Administrator said...

IF she has a laptop she can charge her phone off its battery if she has a USB.

A laptop isn't much help to you with the power off but it can at least do that.

Oh what am I saying it's can-do Kate she must know all this.

steff said...

As far as Facebook, I've already stated that I don't put up pics of my kiddo & his friends. I also keep my facebook private and don't go around sharing it with any & everyone. I also have "friended" my son & many of his friends who are always at my house. I've been known more than once to say to one of them something is inappropriate or flat out not good for a teen to be putting there. Some listen, some don't... my kiddo does. It's part of being an INVOLVED parent.

As far as knowing my friends, well for starters, I never left my kiddo alone with friends. They didn't babysit for us and I never left my kiddo alone with them. That also is part of being an INVOLVED parent. I'm not here to make my friends happy, I'm here to protect my child at ALL times. I never left my child alone with a scout leader. I always volunteered to drive instead of having him possibly be alone with an adult I didn't know. Again, those magic words an INVOLVED parent. I'm the parent that lets other kids spend the weekend at my house, but if he spent the night away, the parents got the spanish inquisition from me first & my son knew that he could call me and I'd come get him at anytime. INVOLVED parent. Because I was a victim, I talked to my son early & often about what to do with an adult that invades his personal space in any way that makes him uncomfortable. INVOLVED parent!!!!!!!!!!

We are the ONLY ones who can ALWAYS be proactive in protecting our children. How hard is that to grasp for the sheeple?

In the Neighborhood said...

We did it for seven days once. I'm a tough gal from an area far north of PA. Doesn't scare me! :-)

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It's a little bit easier when you don't have children. I did it for a week once, too, with ice so thick on the roads that we couldn't get out. The neighborhood kids decided that our home was the one where they could have the most fun. I remember at one point during the week, there were thirteen kids in the living room in addition to mine, and by the end of the week I was pulling my hair out.

We ate so many peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that week because all of the refrigerated food had spoiled.

But, we lived. I just wouldn't want to do it again.

Failure to protect said...

I have a friend who recently moved in with her boyfriend. she has a 10 year old son and everything was great. The kid switched schools, the wedding was planned, etc.

Then Mr. Too-Good-To-Be-True showed his true-colors and freaked out one night. Police were called, she grabbed her kid and went back to her parents.

A week or so later CPS came to her parents and interviewed him INSENSIVELY and then interviewed her and basically told her if she moves back in with him she can be found guilty of FAILURE TO PROTECT her child if anything ever happens.

yes, it is a law.

Administrator said...

In the Neighborhood I was about ten at the time, it was done with children. Don't get me wrong it was terrible, it was by no means easy, but my family did it. We survived and it taught us good lessons about how to handle it in the future.

Marie said...

I wonder if after this snow storm, is Kate going to get out and shovel her own driveway? Ha! I have always wondered in winter who shoveled her long driveway. Surely not Kate herself.

I hope all those in snowstorm will be safe! If nobody minds me telling you that that is.

Administrator said...

A week or so later CPS came to her parents and interviewed him INSENSIVELY and then interviewed her and basically told her if she moves back in with him she can be found guilty of FAILURE TO PROTECT her child if anything ever happens.

yes, it is a law.
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Absolutely. She did the right thing. The law has decided that sitting back and saying well it wasn't me who did the abuse, is not gonna cut it. Nice try, Kate.

In another state CPS would be involved, hands down.

JudyK said...

Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin

U hav NO idea what Id do4a HOT coffee! I'm freezing2the core(I'm always cold even in summer)!
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Just mind boggling how it's ALWAYS about HER...uh, Kate, are your kids cold? This so reminds me of the Alaska fiasco.

Pulling The Wool said...

I just read online that PA electric companies are running on 24-hour shifts through the next several days and have called in crews from Ohio because they can't handle all of the emergencies.
I guess Kate will be in NYC and won't have to worry about any of it. Are the kids with Jon this weekend?

tate said...

Kate is putting out feelers for more freebies---saying the trees are too expensive for her to replace. Boo hoo. I'm sure she is hoping someone will donate some landscaping. Of course, her Audi and her new Iphone and her Wyoming vacay and her endless wardrobe and her manicures/tans/hair appts are not too expensive.

Administrator said...

Is she honestly going to leave these babies alone with a nanny with the power still out if this takes a few days to restore? What a heartless bitch.

Donna said...

Who in the hell puts "um" and "uh" in their Twitter posts? I know she can't talk without doing it but she's not talking on Twitter. Does she think it's cute or is she just that crazy?
So sorry about her driveway trees. /snark/
I do hate it for the kids because I'm sure her stress level is thru the roof right now and she's probably putting the kids thru hell because of it.

Administrator said...

Steff, what an involved Mommy you are it warms my heart.

If parents are worried about scouting or sports coaches or all that, the solution is not that your kid doesn't participate. The solution is YOU get more involved so that you know as much as you can. You help run scouts and become a leader. You become a co-captain or booster or coach. You take leadership roles so you can be involved as possible and get a good sense for the other adults who are going to be around your kids. You cannot stop every possible bad scenario but you can certainly prevent most.

People who don't "smell" right can sometimes hide it, but not always. We all have met people we just had a bad feeling about. But if you're an uninvolved parent like Kate is you're not going to ever have the opportunity to get a sense of others around your kids.

TotallyDisgusted said...

Gee, according to Zillow, the house has 3 fireplaces

Administrator said...

Real fireplaces or ones that are of no use to you when the power is out?

Dumb.

Rhymes with Witch said...

This storm was predicted. (um Kate, that means ADVANCED WARNING).
Most of us did proactive things, like charged our cell phones, made sure we had non perishable food that didn't require cooking, brought in wood for the fireplace or wood stove if we have one. Some of us (gasp!) who have lived through a power outage have a Coleman propane stove to heat water for (gasp!) hot coffee and soup for all.

Can't Do Kate. If it's not handed to her on a golden platter she's hopeless.
God please help those poor children.

Down The Road In Berks said...

I'm going past there tomorrow - I'll check out the extent of the damage and how many trees they lost. She makes it sound like every tree that lines the driveway is down. It's possible, but with her exaggerating and her 100 months on bedrest, it's kind of hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

anger issues kate said...

Let's see: 10 inch snow fall, perhaps Kate won't be on the View, 2. unless they filmed monday so Elizabeth and Sherri and Joy and Whoopi could spend time with their kids. 3. Kate went home from NYC? 4. Kate says the power is out, and does not know when it will be on. 5. kate also said that the trees lining her driveway have broke, then said that the driveway is clear and the branches are on the side: Question: who plowed the driveway?

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I think Monday is "live" on The View.

Come hell, or high water Katie Irene will make her way to Manhattan- even if she has to tunnel her way under the snow to get there.

Donna said...

Kate tweets that she's "always cold even in the summer". That's another symptom of undernourishment/malnourishment.

Down The Road In Berks said...

This storm was predicted. (um Kate, that means ADVANCED WARNING).
Most of us did proactive things, like charged our cell phones, made sure we had non perishable food that didn't require cooking, brought in wood for the fireplace or wood stove if we have one.

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First prediction was only a dusting. It wasn't until yesterday they upped the snowfall totals. That's when the lines at the grocery stores were long. Forecasters are usually wrong, and since it's so early in the season, many people didn't heed the warning.
Since Kate doesn't read newspapers and is totally clueless what's going on in the world around her (unless she's in the news), she probably didn't know. I wonder if she knows how to build a fire in the fireplace, and that you have to open the flue first! :)

anger issues kate said...

Is Kate stupid or what. Is Kate fireplace for show or is it a real one? The kids are using flashlights, which normally would be ok, but your power is out, those flashlight batteries are not goin to last forever. Kate said they don't have candles in their house. Who on this earth does not have emergency kit, Kate you live in a rural area, candles/lanterns are a must, so are generators. Geez, I live in the big city and I have candles, crank up radio/flashlight(battery less) and flashlights, extra batteries, a plan in case of bad weather, and I most certainly would not be using my iphone to be tweeting, but save it for an emergency, your sheeple can wait, Kate, you should be supervising , your kids and preparing for tonight, you have no power, I guess Kate is not taking this situation serious, without power your pipes can crack if it gets too cold, or your water can freeze the pipes, your heating system can freeze too. Besides you & the kids. What an idiot! What's the matter Kate not as organized as you thought, perhaps Fame gave you brain damage.

Moose Mania said...

"Kate tweets that she's "always cold even in the summer". That's another symptom of undernourishment/malnourishment."

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Then why does she run around doing errands in 35 degree weather without a jacket, showing her "girls" in full bloom?

Audible Click said...

Kimmie, I'm going to spell this out for you.

At this point in time it's not that Kate filmed the kids, it's what she and Jon ALLOWED to be filmed.

They ALLOWED those children to be filmed NAKED.

This film was then sent off to be edited.

Some of the film was edited by a PEDOPHILE.

The PEDOPHILE has been ARRESTED and CHARGED with distribution of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

Kate signed away the children's right to privacy for MONEY. Your idol is morally bankrupt.

Kimmie, I can't make this any clearer if you can't wrap your head around it then it's all on you.

Caveat to everyone. Yes, I know that Jon was not a party to filming the Kate Plus 8 episodes and I realize that we don't know and may never know if the pedo actually used the Gosselin kids for his child porn but I was keeping it simple for Kimmie.

Rhymes with Witch said...

First prediction was only a dusting. It wasn't until yesterday they upped the snowfall totals.
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That's true of here too. Having lived her for a number of years, I've learned to be prepared, because you're right - forecasts are not always accurate.

Donna said...

Marie:
I'll bet Kate has a heated driveway.

Anonymous said...

Come hell or high water (or snow) she'll get to New York. She will charter a helicopter if necessary but she'll be on The View - probably as the old woman who lived in a shoe.

bm

Westcoaster said...

If one were smart one woud not waste the phone battery on Twitter, at least not at our house. She's twittering and those kids are running wild, status quo at casa Gosselin. Love the image of k8 tunneling out and leaving kids behind to get to her chair in Manhatten - what if school is cancelled?

TLC ship is sinking said...

what i see is that this situation is coming right back to the differences haters and non haters have always had: if filming is exploitative
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So what do the non-haters consider exploitation? It's only exploitation if it's sexual as in child pornography or child prostitution? It's okay if a child is undressed (half-naked or naked) because they are not being provocative on purpose?

I don't think a child has to been shown in a sexual manner to turn some pedophiles on. Why do some pedophiles stalk child areas like park playgrounds and schools? I think it has to do with kids being young, their sweetness and innocence, that makes them appealing to these sickos.

What many of us would consider "cute", these pedophiles are turned-on by it. An image of a boy sitting on his potty some might consider "cute" could instead be a sexual-trigger for pedophiles who might be imagining what this boy looks like naked.

I remember a childhood school presentation where cops would tell us that if someone asks to see your underwear, it's not okay. Tell an adult you trust immediately.

TLC ship is sinking said...

Edited: What many of us would consider "cute", some of these pedophiles are turned-on by it. An image of a boy sitting on his potty some might consider "cute" could instead be a sexual-trigger for some pedophiles who might be imagining what this boy looks like naked.

Moose Mania said...

Who on this earth does not have emergency kit, Kate you live in a rural area, candles/lanterns are a must, so are generators.

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I guess "Miss Organization" isn't as organized as she proclaims to be. Maybe now she is realizing just how much responsibility was upon Jon when he was living there. She just took it for granted.

Are those 2,000 quarts of frozen tomatoes defrosting in the freezer?

Anonymous said...

She really is a twit. She lives in a rural area and is not prepared for power failure, which can happen winter or summer. She prides herself on being the great organizer but is not prepared for power failure. She said she has not had candles around for seven years which would mean that she still used them when the twins were young.

She is never at a loss for words but she'll have plenty to moan about on Monday.

bm

Marie said...

What parent in their right mind in a snowstorm is more concerned with keeping contact with teenage/other women on Twitter with no power than she is with the safety and warmth of her 8 kids?!

If she knew about the snowstorm, which she probably didn't because she said she doesn't watch the news (what a dingbat!) that's why she is not prepared as a normal person would be.

A heated driveway? I have no idea how that is supposed to work. And I'm not sure on prize but would that be included in 1.3 million? The whole driveway? If she is so fit and likes to work out, shoveling snow is a bit of a workout.

Pray for those kids said...

Its a shame that she can't use this time with her kids to play gmaes, build a snowman, etc...

I grew up in New England - we had some really rough winters, and would lose power at least once every winter. I can understand no candles with little kids running around, but all that $$ and no generator? Oh yeah - thay would take away from the pitty party of "helo me I'm here with my kids and there is big mean snow outside. Oh, and while you are bringing me juice and cereal, replace my trees and give me a job on tv...

Can you imagine her kids tonight - dark house means the kids may be scared and cold, and rather than use this as a chance to truly "camo indoors" and throw some blankets in the middle of the lviing room - make some fun out a bad situation (or as she said in her parenting tips, make lemonade with lemons, blah blah blah...) she prob took this as a chance to put them to bed early. And is the kids are scared, tough luck - its not like they can cuddle in mommy's bed - for fear of severness....

Kate - say good night to the sheeple, turn off the phone, and be a mother to those kids for once in their lives.

Parent and Alumna said...

Love the image of k8 tunneling out and leaving kids behind to get to her chair in Manhatten - what if school is cancelled?

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It won't be, unless the power isn't back on by then. Highs on Monday will be in the mid 50s. The snow will all be melted, but it will be a very sloppy Halloween.

Bubbles said...

I haven't been here in a few days, I've been on the training site for thirty-one gifts and reading a message board discussing the disappearance of Lisa Irwin, so I am shocked to read about this. It makes me feel sick to my stomach to think that man had total access to all that footage of those kids in so many situations and states of undress. Absolutely sickening. And how much of it could have been sold?

I see a lawsuit in the future, Kate suing Figure 8 for putting the children in danger even though SHE is the one who consented.

Sorry if these are repeated thoughts that others have voiced, I didn't even read through the comments because I had to get my thoughts out!

anger issues kate said...

Marie: remember the tups birthday, Kate was not concerned about the weather, it was purseboy, who made Kate move the party inside, cause he was watching the weather channel, while kate was running the party. Jon did say that kate never watches/listens or reads about the news. So how can she be a talk show host, if she does not have a clue, to what is going on in the world. A delusional harpy!(read that on a recent article)lololol
Oh, yeah, Kate just tweeted: that she is going to her car to charge iphone battery, instead of saving car battery, supervising kids, and preparing for the night without power. Her sheeple fans are more important.

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

A heated driveway? I have no idea how that is supposed to work. And I'm not sure on prize but would that be included in 1.3 million? The whole driveway? If she is so fit and likes to work out, shoveling snow is a bit of a workout.

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I don't know of too many homes in her area that have heated driveways, and if her home didn't have a foyer closet, intercom or central vac system, I seriously doubt if it has a heated driveway. When we built our home, we installed a heating system in the garage, but passed on the driveway because it was so expensive. Sometimes it can be put under an existing driveway. With one the size of hers, I would estimate cost to be in the $10,000 range or more, IF they can do it under the driveway. If they have to rip up the entire driveway and replace it, you're talking serious money. When it snows, you just flip a switch, and the snow melts.
If you lose power, however, it's useless.

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

Oh, yeah, Kate just tweeted: that she is going to her car to charge iphone battery, instead of saving car battery, supervising kids, and preparing for the night without power. Her sheeple fans are more important.

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She only has one phone? Buy a cheap phone, add a line for 9.99 a month, and you have a phone as an emergency backup if your primary phone has issues. How dumb is this woman? Is tweeting that important to her?

Westcoaster said...

Scenario - K8 drains ALL car batteries to keep in touch with sheeple while power is off, cannot get kids to school in BBB, esp with trees down on property. She grew up in the area, how can she be so ill prepared? mindboggling.

Anonymous said...

I can't find anything in the mainstream press on the Blankinship arrest.

Does TLC have the kind of clout required to put a lid on this very disturbing story?

bm

chefsummer said...

Donna said... Who in the hell puts "um" and "uh" in their Twitter posts? I know she can't talk without doing it but she's not talking on Twitter. Does she think it's cute or is she just that crazy?
So sorry about her driveway trees. /snark/
I do hate it for the kids because I'm sure her stress level is thru the roof right now and she's probably putting the kids thru hell because of it.
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She say's that when she talks why would her twitter be diffrent

anger issues kate said...

Westcoaster: if trees are down on her property, they are down in the whole area, and so are power lines, which means, this might take several days to a week to fix. Roads might not be passable, which means, possibly, no-school monday and no View either, cause she can't get to airport. Gee, what a shame. How will the sheeple survive that! Let alone Kate! Kate will probably whine & cry on twitter about it. (run to her car to charge phone battery) Total nit-wit

In the Neighborhood said...

Oh, good grief! Every time I think that the sheeple couldn't get more ignorant, I read something like this:

ann_iw
@Kateplusmy8 Did you report to @PPLElectric? 1-800-342-5775.

ann_iw
@Kateplusmy8 @PPLElectric Did you know that Kate + eight Gosselin kids have no power in Wernersville? Please get crew there pronto! Thnx

Yes, Ann...PP&L does now about the power problems, and no you can't report it because they are not taking calls. Tell you what. Why don't YOU try to report it for her since her battery is down? Of course, you'll need her phone number, account number, her address, etc. etc. I'm sure she'll be willing to give that info to her tweeties, or just ask Barb if it's okay.

It's making it's way around said...

Anonymous BM @ 5:41
Story is making it's way around. USWeekly, MSNBC, FoxPhilly, UK Daily Mail picked it up so far.
Google 'TLC/Jon & Kate +8 editor arrested' and you'll get pages of hits.

Out And About In Berks County PA said...

Berks County (where Kate lives) has its first storm fatality. A man, who was sleeping in a recliner in his home, died when a tree fell through the roof and killed him.
It's really bad all over the area.

Social networking sites are just that said...

Kate not knowing this guy but letting him access all her videos would be akin to accepting a random male's friend request and letting them see all your kids' pictures. No one rational would do that.

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Really? Tons of people 'look' for friends on FB. Can everyone honestly say they KNOW each and every 'friend'?

There alot of dumb people out there. This is a good wake up call.

Administrator said...

It is being picked up by the mainstream press, albeit slowly.

Friday is traditionally a bad day for a big story to come out because news media usually winds down over the weekend, absent a huge story. When someone wants to hold a press conference about some bad news, like an affair or something, note the day. It will often be a Friday.

By Monday it'll likely be even more widespread, plus when more details come out, that will be picked up as well.

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