Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Ratings for RV Trip hit 1.3 million

Looks like some former viewers may have tuned in to see how it all finally goes down as TLC starts sending off Kate, throwing her under the bus as they go. Will ratings that are better than most of the summer have any impact on the cancellation?

Kate Plus 8
TLC 9:00 PM 1.372 million
Adults 18-45 0.5


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Meagler said...

ok... went to Youtube gosselin archives and watched... it is split into 3 videos. I see the frist video has just over 300 views, the 2nd video just under 250 views, and 206 views for the 3rd video...After watching the first, 100 people couldn't bring themselves to keep watching..

As for Jamie's younger son, whose name I have already forgotten... I could not see him doing anything...he was giving it back to the wierd comment; Cara for whatever reason had a hate on for him right from the beginning, and TLC was hoping we would catch on, as they typed out cara's words when she was inaudible, such as when he fell and hurt himself, there were unkind words said, and I couldn't see Clay ( remembered his name) do anything wrong except want to sit at the table and play lego's.. they are a very pushy bunch them gosselin kids.. instant gratification is going to come back and bite them in the butt...

I noticed the oldest boy of Jamie is in very little footage..smart kid. The girl is in some but not a whole lot...

YUp, you people have it..TLC not only took Kate for a bus ride, they are throwing her under it.. this is the realist reality, showing Kate's true colors which we all knew existed.

A persons true colors come out when under stress... I have been camping with kids and get that things sometimes get stressful, and I have gotten mad and yelled, but ask my kids, I never swear at them, or call them disgusting pigs.. I might call them out on what they did, but not who they are!!! and 2 minutes later you would catch me hugging and apologizing for getting so mad....

We don't seem to ever see Kate apologze, even tho she twittered she did, I don't buy it...

hey judil said...

Used to be NJgal51, I agree with you, I think someone is using your old name. She's back!

Can someone tell me what runny corn on the cob jam or jelly is? I never heard of that, but it sounds good. I'm from Canada and we don't know your recipes up here i the igloos!

Teresa said...

Help! My computer is all screwed up. Can't copy & paste anymore and cannot see any photo's or links to anyone's clips. Same with YT clips too. I have Adobe flash player in here somewhere, but that's not working either. What should l do? Any suggestions?
p.s I ran a Macafee scan, say's no problems.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

No Regrets said... Everyone have a great rest of the day. I have played far too long. I just cannot believe Kate is getting worse and worse. Maybe she is losing it.

The digs to Ashley and Jaime just have me spinning. She really sucks up the adoration from these people. And believes it all. There is NO way I would discuss my BFF's even if filmed like that, EVER not like that. NOR my ex.

After she disses them(Jamie and Ashley), she says "I love them." What a bunch of horse manure. Of course she did nothing wrong. WHY is the twitter Kate SO different than the "reality" Kate? Editing? LOL-------
Yep, Kate has no boundaries, probably never will. EVERYTHING will always revolve around Kate and how any given situation effected HER- never her husband, kids, family,friends, nannies, etc. It always will be about HER! With her "spin." She will never take a look at how her choices, behavior, actions and how this impacts on other people- Repeat -husband,kids, family, friends, etc..

I know Admin requested posters back off the kids. And I do respect that, but I will add that some of the kids' behaviors (expulsion, hitting, etc..) and some described in the most recent RAW episode (did not see), appears to indicate that some kids are acting out badly. According to Kate herself- she lets the kids "work out conflict," apparantly delegated conflict with the kids to Jamie and Ashley, as she did with Jon, and then criticized him, as she apparently did with Jamie and Ashley.

I think the issue has more to do with Kate getting rid of Jon, never backing him up with parenting, and delegating as many parental duties as possible to "other people" and NOT PARENTING HERSELF,let alone when the cameras are not rolling. She exhibits time and time again, that other than blowing kisses on film (DWTS), she really has no interest in parenting 8 kids, and the kids DO suffer as a result of this, especially if there is serious bullying going on. I think most of us do want the best for all of the kids, and get disgusted by Kate's alleged role of Super Mom, when she is everything but, and refuses to recognize "problem" behavior in her own children, even after 2 were expelled.

I do wish the best for all of the G8- not just the favorites but her parenting (or lack thereof) is despicable. And she has the nerve to criticize Jon's parenting? Jon has more sense than she ever will but she has undermined him every step of the way. And anyone else who has ever bothered to give a hoot about these kids. What a sick phony she is, at her own children's expense.

Dallas Lady said...

My mom was just like Kate. So much so it gives me chills. I can tell you one thing, if this is how she's willing to act with cameras on her, imagine what she's like when they aren't there.

I guarantee you that woman has a temper from hell.

Computer virus? said...

Teresa said...

Help! My computer is all screwed up. Can't copy & paste anymore and cannot see any photo's or links to anyone's clips. Same with YT clips too. I have Adobe flash player in here somewhere, but that's not working either. What should l do? Any suggestions?
p.s I ran a Macafee scan, say's no problems.

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MAcAfee isn't the best protection. You can go to AVG and download free security software and AdAware for extra protection. Sounds like you got a virus. AdAware might be able to quarantine it so you can use your computer. Just a suggestion. It's happened to me.

Dallas Lady said...

By the way, I really wish someone would tell Kate about this:

Apparently Prince Harry just went to Croatia on holiday. While there, he went to a night club and refused all offers of going into the VIP area. He went to the regular part of the club, danced his butt off, fell into a pool, got out, continued dancing. Security guards didn't dive in the pool after him and dancing with strangers didn't bother him one bit.

Someone did tape it all with their phone (it's on celebitchy), but did he care? No!

HE'S THIRD IN LINE TO THE THRONE.

If someone like that can go out and just party down with regular people and not have a bodyguard right up on him at all times, and not freak out about people taking pictures, so can Kate the Z List Has-Been.

Falling like a brick said...

Teresa: Try updating your Adobe as well.

Teresa said...

Admin & Falling: Thanks. I will try both ideas. It's very frustrating.

Gosselin Gossip said...

Teresa,

Trying clearing your browser's cache and cookies as well. I use Firefox and installed the Better Privacy add-on which detects super-cookies (that some virus softwares do not pick-up).

Also, I've used MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware software in addition to AVG and Ad-Aware. All are available on CNET Downloads for free.

Link to Windows downloads but they have Mac software too:
http://download.cnet.com/windows/

Good luck!

Just Dwindle Away said...

Teresa said... Help! My computer is all screwed up. Can't copy & paste anymore and cannot see any photo's or links to anyone's clips. Same with YT clips too. I have Adobe flash player in here somewhere, but that's not working either. What should l do? Any suggestions?
p.s I ran a Macafee scan, say's no problems.
^^^^^^^^^^

Perhaps it is an internet problem, since you are ok to post plain text. Shut down your computer, then completely unplug your internet for at least 2 full minutes. (inluding any modems, routers, etc that you have.) Plug it all back in and boot everything back up. This frequently works for me. Good luck to you!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Another suggestion? MAC!!!

I am so fed up with IE, Microsoft, viruses and the like, I'm making the big switchover next month. I've used mac extensively at various jobs and love them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Just to further clarify I don't object to discussion of the kids but it needs to be done in a sensitive matter.

What's so important to emphasize is that their behavior is not their fault. I think what we're finally starting to see is Kate's horrible parenting, six years in the spotlight, a film crew as daddies, and constant exposure, is now finally catching up and is reflected in their behavior. Karma is hitting the fan, and unfortunately it appears the kids are the biggest victims. The ones that never asked for all this in the first place are ending up hurt the most.

The kids have many bad habits that are going to be very, very difficult to correct at this point in the game.

Money and fame have made for miserable kids and an even more miserable matriarch.

Tizzie said...

Falling like a brick said...
She has all the time in the world to google projects on what she was going to see, make up coloring books, or even check books from the library or purchase them for the kids to look at before they get to the next destination or even after they get there.
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Yes, that's exactly what she should have done, but instead she was too fixated on keeping everything a surprise.

About the Lego incident - since they had multiple RVs and 4 adults present, there was really no reason why the adults couldn't make arrangements so that Cara & Collin would have somewhere to play by themselves away from everyone else. IMO instead of the adults making a big deal out of it, they should have let them. They can't complain about the kids being upset & angry because OF COURSE that's how they're going to react when all they want is to be by themselves and they're denied it.

Bubbles, the non-blogger-ID one said...

I apologize if this has already been said, but isn't it kind of pathetic that after all the hype surrounding this episode, the dramatic commercials, the news spreading that the show had been cancelled, and some of the people who usually never watch tuning in, the numbers only went up by 200K people?

Dallas Lady said...

OH.

MY.

GOD.

Apparently, a few fans on Twitter want Kate to autograph their books. And she tells them to send them with a postage paid envelope.

YES, DEFINITELY SEND A POSTAGE PAID ENVELOPE TO HELP OUT THE MULTI-MILLIONARE.

Sheesh. She's officially WORSE than Joan Crawford.

Anonymous said...

Post from MaryAnn:

We became a 2 Mac household within the last year. Love 'em! iPhoto is so convenient.

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched the show in a couple of years, but based on what I'm reading here and on other sites, and from past observations, I have to wonder if there isn't something wrong with Collin besides being a bully. The obsessive sorting and stacking he did as a little, the rocking behavior, his outbursts and bullying all raise a lot of red flags. I've been a special ed. teacher and still work with kids with behavioral/mental/learning problems as a volunteer. If he were my student, I'd want him evaluated yesterday.

My take on Cara's meltdown is that something just pushed her over the edge. Cara's the easy going one; slow to anger; the one who holds it all in until it just boils over; the kind one; the motherly one; the helpful one. Apparently, Kate has tasked her with keeping Collin's behavior in check. That's too much responsibility to saddle a 10 year old with. Who knows what went on behind the scenes. Maybe Clay provoked her. Maybe he didn't. I think we need to cut her a little slack. She's a 10 year old girl in an untenable situation. No wonder she threw a hissy fit.

BTW Admin, the posting problem isn't just with IE. I've tried Chrome and Firefox and still can only post as anonymous.

readerlady

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wish I could give everyone here some kind of MAC discount lol!

mixed up Kate! said...

There is another article about the Talk, and it talks about 2 of the host leaving the show, and Sharon Osbourn taking a break and that Jenner woman being host on the show. The article also said they offered the hosting to several celebs and they turned it down. There was no mention of Kate Gosselin, hosting or taking a place of a host on that show or appearing anytime soon. The article did say there was in fighting, and that is why 2 were leaving and the rating are not that good. And Kate was asked this on twitter and did not say she was going to be on the Talk, but did not say she was offered either or is going to appear on the show. Kate said something like: if the opportunity happens I will take it. So that article is a rumour, I never trust, when they say source.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Of course there's something wrong with Collin. His mother is Kate.

Maybe they should hook up? said...

Dallas Lady said

Apparently Prince Harry just went to Croatia on holiday. While there, he went to a night club and refused all offers of going into the VIP area. He went to the regular part of the club, danced his butt off, fell into a pool, got out, continued dancing. Security guards didn't dive in the pool after him and dancing with strangers didn't bother him one bit.

Someone did tape it all with their phone (it's on celebitchy), but did he care? No!

HE'S THIRD IN LINE TO THE THRONE.

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With all due respect, Dallas Lady, Prince Harry has a long history of engaging in irresponsible behavior, and misbehaving publicly.

He is third in line for the throne, but he's had a lifetime of tragedy to deal with, and lives under a cloud regarding his paternity.

All of this is public fodder, which I'm sure hasn't helped that poor young man one bit. However, his judgment is terrible, and he's definitely NOT any kind of role model in terms of public behavior.

"Third in line for the throne" SHOULD have security, should behave responsibly, and shouldn't be making life hard for either his security team OR for his father and grandmother.

Even though Prince Harry isn't a good example, but your point is well-taken. Kate is an idiot with an inflated sense of self-importance, and needs just as much "security" as you or I do.

Her children are another matter. But in Kate's world, that's always the case.

bee said...

Wondering....

1. In the interview with Mady, Mady asked to do a re-do on the interview and Kate quickly brushed her off saying "no time". Thought this wasn't a scripted show. It obviously is to some degree since Mady is aware of 2nd takes on scenes.
2. The way the kids first reaction to frustration is to hit/push. Cara with Clay....The one tup who made a fist when she was angry with one of Jaime's kids....The one tup that was pushed over while sitting in a chair. This is really concerning that their first reaction is aggressive. That is a learned quality....
3. I have lived my life taking road trips from camping to RVs to hotel/motel traveling. When I did it with my kids my first stop was Auto Club for some of their travel book. Most points of interest, history, fun things to do are in that book and we would read about the next stop so we knew something about it. How crazy to go to Mt. Rushmore and not know the Presidents.

I do believe she works hard but makes everyone pay for it. She is doing it all alone because she chose to so stop bitching about it.

Audible Click said...

@theaustinmartin
CONT.we could find a central meeting place in the u.s!!! Far fetched, i know! But never say never... anything can happen! lol @Kateplusmy8

@kateplusmy8
@TheAustinMartin totally agree.u organize it (or some1)&tell me when&where&I'll b there!make it a F-raiser 2benefit a good cause! Gr8 idea

I don't think Kate is going to go to an event organized and attended by her fans and obssesed sheeple. She's toying with them again.

Once a grifter said...

Audible Click said

I don't think Kate is going to go to an event organized and attended by her fans and obssesed sheeple. She's toying with them again.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

She would if they paid her.

Understanding the misunderstanding said...

No Regrets said...

"Anonymous said...
JUST SAYIN said:
sorry for the re-post.
JUST SAYIN said:
Jane said..."

Listen do me a favor, don't take it too personally. There are trolls that come here and post a lot of stuff. The one they are talking about posts sometimes. You are SAFE. Don't feel that way. Just don't take it personally Most everyone here are VERY nice. And you have been very nice to post to.

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Just Sayin, it looks like you've had a couple of rough days posting here and I apologize if your comments have been genuine and have been interpreted differently from the way you intended, but I have a clue why you might you comments might not be received the way you want.

There is a very vocal sheeple who has posted for years on blogs and with Kate on Twitter who ends their posts with the tag "Just Sayin'". The regulars here can spot a troll from a long distance and the name you're using is like waving a red flag at us. Everyone can choose the screen name they prefer, but in this case and on this blog, I think your posts might be better received if they didn't come with those words attached. Also, using all CAPS is like shouting and when you sign your name in caps and it happens to be "Just Sayin'", it looks like you're screaming the words at us.

Thanks for understanding and being patient. We'll try to do the same as you become more familiar with commenting here.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I disagree Prince Harry has a long record of misjudgments. I don't think anything more than usual for a young party boy. So he smoked pot, tons of kids do. So he made one mistake with a Halloween costume, tons of kids have dressed up as questionable things they just aren't famous to have it be made a big deal. So he partied, so do a lot of kids his age. A lot of people in similar shoes (off the top of my head, the various Kennedys who never made it big time) have gone so far over the edge people have died in drunk driving accidents, etc. He's nowhere near that kind of misbehavior.

He was also in a serious relationship for years with a nice girl, he also has done extensive charity work and has a sincere desire to help you just don't see that often in a man his age who could just screw around his entire life and never accomplish anything. He has a sincere desire not to just be the spare, but to really make something of his life. He's a free spirit and wants to have fun, but that personality is exactly the kind of get-your-hands-dirty that's needed in places like Africa.

I think he's a young man who had fun in his 20's and has started to calm down and will be absolutely fine.

The point being made is that Prince Harry didn't behave like a diva and demand security and special treatment. He is far more famous than Kate and actually should have protection, and yet wasn't so full of himself that he didn't seek out a "normal" night out. I completely agree with this point. This point has been made over and over here with tons of examples, both public and both "insider" examples, of celebs behaving normally and not like they are...well, the king and queen of England, as Kate does.

If anything, Prince William and Harry are one of the best examples to compare the Gosselin children to. They too have been famous their whole lives, they too did not ask for this, but rather, were born into it. And I never once heard them say they love the fame and attention. If anything, all accounts suggest the boys are incredibly embarrassed by it (according to what I read, especially William), have no desire to be royals, and rather just want to be normal guys. And yet also, have a sense of responsibility that this is their destiny and they'll just have to suck it up. I think they're the best thing that happened to the royal family in centuries.

hey jude said...

I don't know if this has been said, but it really upsets me when certain kids are given a toy and other kids aren't .They should have enough for everyone or no playing with them.

Playing favourites with 2 kids irritates the other kids, and there is no reason to ask for a problem, especially when there are 6 or 7 kids the same age present. They all like legos.

I don't know a lot of 11 yr. olds that do, though! Why was it only those two? To calm down Collin? Perhaps Kate could interject some discipline along with her daily happy thoughts and platitudes!

She won't parent or have rules and she won't let Ashley? No wonder those kids are acting up, there are no rules and no discipline!

Jenna Does said...

How old are Jamie's kids? How old is Clay? Is he younger than Cara? Could he have defended himself? Thank you to Falling Like A Brick for the conversation, although if Kate, or anyone said anything rudely to me about my kid, I probably would have flipped my lid. There are NICE ways to go about finding a solution to arguing children.

My best friend has a daughter & her & my son have tiffs. We don't get into arguments with each other or take sides with our kids about it. We work it out maturely & amicably. Kate knows nothing about friendships OR child-rearing. I would have had to SPIT on my TV had I watched. Kate just can't keep her mouth shit, can she? (oops, typo & it stays)
~Hippie Chick~

Just Me said...

RE: "unauthorized photos"

I will preface this by saying that I have not watched since Season 1 or maybe 2? (whatever season the horrible 4th of July dragging the tups down the street was) and an occasional snippet of other eps (Emeril is the only one that comes to mind right off).

She is so worried about people taking "unauthorized photos" of her (a fame courting (zlist)celebrity), but what about all the regular people that are simply going about their day to day business that find themselves in the wake of Hurricane Katie Irene?

Maybe some of those people don't think being on film (even just in the background) is all that great and feel like *that* is an "unauthorized photo" of them.

There is no way that TLC is getting model releases of EVERY single person in every single scene when they are filming out and about in public.

I would be horrified to find out I was filmed when I was just out enjoying my day in public somewhere, even if it was just in the background. Not all of us are giant famewhores like Kate and the sheeple.

Anonymous said...

Admin said,
"What's so important to emphasize is that their behavior is not their fault. I think what we're finally starting to see is Kate's horrible parenting, six years in the spotlight, a film crew as daddies, and constant exposure, is now finally catching up and is reflected in their behavior. Karma is hitting the fan, and unfortunately it appears the kids are the biggest victims. The ones that never asked for all this in the first place are ending up hurt the most.

The kids have many bad habits that are going to be very, very difficult to correct at this point in the game. "

ITA, however, just because they have a narcissist for a mother, that shouldn't excuse their behavior. Someone, whether that be Jon or a close friend or another relative, needs to get these kids some help! IMO, as long as they reside with their mother, they are a lost cause.

Permanent Name said...

In one of her twats, is kart saying she would 'love to visit South Africa'? That it's a dream of hers??????????

Well, honey, I'm once again almost speechless!

Um, kart, how about dreaming about being a better mother here at home?

Dream about helping your kids become socialized and civil.

Why not dream about being a stay-at-home mom for a while to help your kids adjust to life without cameras?

Trying dreaming about your kids benefiting from counseling so they can grow up happy and well-adjusted.......

Here's a good dream: that you and Jon can be amicable in divorce and provide a calm, respectful front to your children. Jon seems to be there... how about dreaming that you meet him halfway?

Dream about giving yourself to your children, instead of taking from them.

How about dreaming about someone besides yourself?

Falling like a brick said...

Admin I couldn't agree with you more about the bad parenting that's on display through those children. They aren't at fault because they don't know any different. Their role model is a narcissistic, enabled, wannabe celebrity who spends more time tweeting her tween fans and primping than actually parenting.
Her children are her accessories and nothing more.
They didn't ask for this and like Kate says "they don't know any different" when it comes to filming - and it most likely carries over to their relationships with their siblings and peers. How incredibly sad.

There needs to be an intervention and sadly no one is left to facilitate it. I think this last episode was TLC and the Camera Crew basically saying to the viewership "This is the real reality of what we have had to work with." And they weren't afraid to show Kate at her 'normal' and the kids as they really are. I truly wonder if they (the camera crew) plan on visiting all the time like Kate says they will if the show ends "because they are like family."

I'm so saddened for the kids because they fight A LOT and know no better. In every scene with them you can see them constantly pushing, giving rude looks and in poor Cara's case (she was the one who was the most focused on) giving snide remarks at every opportunity - almost like Kate would do under her breath when Jon did something she didn't approve of.

Kate needs help in the form of counseling RIGHT NOW. She needs to stop pursuing her plan of being on TV and start being a MOTHER. With the money she has set aside she could take a year off and really focus on her children. She could get to know them and help out at the school, take them on individual trips to actually see them as individuals not a pack of children with different personalities.

I wish to God that Jon could have full custody of those kids. He has a great family base and support system. He has shown his maturity over the past year and a half since he met Ellen and settled down into a normal life w/o TV cameras.

Permanent Name said...

ADMIN,

Just me has an excellent point! As an attorney can you speak to this...

What responsibility does TLC have when filming 'civilians, bystanders, etc' when they will be subsequently used in a for-profit venture, ie the TV show.

When I posted my post earlier, I was thinking only from the point of view of a random person seeing the 'filming' or kart out in public.

What about when the shoe is on the other foot and the film company is going to use the footage to make money?

Do they have the legal responsibility to get releases? Haven't we seen clips in this and other shows where people have their faces blurred? I assumed that was because they didn't want to be filmed.

Although, as I write this, I also assume that in filming, the crew/producers/purseboy round up the bystanders and shoo them off unless they agree and sign releases.....

Oh, I don't know - does anyone have the answer to Just Me's post?

Just Me, this idea is a really good one - glad you brought it up, as I would love to know the legalities.

Meagler said...

Admin, you make a very good point about not judging the kids harshly. I went back and reread my earlier post, and the second paragraph really should not have been written. It is not their fault. Yes, personalities do play a role, but I have always believed that toddlers are by nature, aggressive and it is the parent/caregivers roles to teach toddlers how to control their aggression.

Toddlers are still building their receptive and expressive language skills, and tend to learn receptive before expressive. Many of these kids still struggle with their expressive language skills, and in the heat of the moment and under stress will revert to the expressive language they know best and that is pushing, hitting, pulling, etc. and we have evidence that kate prefers to parent from her white resin chair, and let them work it out... which , in my experience, often only teaches kids that the way to resolve issues is with fists ( pushing, pulling, hitting, etc)...

Eventually the kids will learn this is not acceptable by society..some may learn to control it, but replace with other more socially acceptable tactics, albeit still manipulative, some may struggle to keep their hands to themselves, and find themselves facing a judge in a court of law.

I pray, they are blessed with a miracle, and that Jon is able to model appropriate behavior, and lead the kids in the way they were meant to go!

Siesta Key said...

Administrator said...

Of course there's something wrong with Collin. His mother is Kate.

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There's also something right with Collin. His father is Jon.

Audible Click said...

I was at the grocery store this afternoon and there was a woman with a child who appeared to be about four years old. This child was continually whining and literally screaming when he was denied some treat or toy. His, I assume, mother never once admonished him or tried to correct his behavior. I consider that to be lazy parenting not to mention it would drive me crazy if I had to put up with that. Years ago, when my youngest was about that age, he decided to pitch a fit in Target (lol). I left my basket in the aisle and took him to the car where he had a small refresher course on how to behave in public. We returned to the store and continued shopping with no further problems. I've read what others have posted about the Gosselin children and their behavior, I feel sorry for them because they are the ones that will pay the price when they're older. Shame on you, Kate Gosselin.

Laurie said...

If I can find the tweet agian I will cut and paste but either yesterday or today one of her fans tweeted (because of Cara's behavior) that the twins seemed to have changed personalities over the past year and rather than defending her girls as individuals Kate agreed with her "tweetie". She is a piece of work. If I read about that tweet in a post her color me embarassed!

Falling like a brick said...

Siesta...by Kate's own admission Jon only sees his children 2 weekends a month. If you do the math, most of the year he is with Kate, modeling her behaviour and her mindset that the kids' "Pecking Order" sorts out the arguments.

Thanks for stopping by. I really shouldn't have fed you, but I felt a response was warranted. Now be off or perhaps a house will drop on you too...

Dancing With Grace said...

Well, at least poor Tony got a break this season and Nancy Grace wasn't dumped on him. His partner is Chynna. The poor guy getting Nancy is Tristan MacManus.

Teresa said...

Okay, Admin and Falling Like A Brick. Thanks for the advice. I d/loaded AVG (1 month free trial) and the latest version of Adobe Flash player and still having the same problems :(
No threats were detected, so l'm safe. Hopefully it's just a glich and will rectify itself.
As for Admin's post of the young princes Harry and William. As an ex-pat, the UK people are very proud of them. Diana didn't raised them to be self-entitled brats. When they went to theme parks, they waited in the line like everyone else. She took them to Aids/Hiv hospitals to teach them compassion. She didn't send them off to private boarding schools ( althought, the queen and Charles tried to force her to) She took William to Australia when he was a baby, against the wishes of the Queen and advisors. She was an excellent mother and showed them love and affection her husband never had. The UK wants William and Katherine to be the next head of state, not Charles and Camilla. Diana would be so proud of the way her "boys' have turned out, and so she should be.
Khate is a NOTHING, NO GOOD NOBODY in comparison. Not that l would ever compare her to Diana. With or without the queen's dismissel of Diana's HRH status.

Tour Guide said...

Maybe Kate's tweet about wanting to go to South Africa is so that she can get a job as a host on a travel show. Please don't anyone get upset as this is in jest:

Um, I'm, um, in South Africa. It's, um, amazing that everyone here speaks such good, um, English. I've heard about, um, blood diamonds. Um, are they like red or something? Is, um, bunny chow like made from rabbits or something? YOU WANT ME TO EAT WITH MY FINGERS? TURN OFF THE CAMERA NOW!!!!

Audible Click said...

Kate in South Africa:
Umm...umm...Desmond Tutu? Umm...like is he a ballet guy?

Permanent Name said...

Falling,

I think what Admin and Siesta were trying to say is that the children have two parents who influence them, each in their own way, even if Jon sees them less.

I read the words "wrong" and "right" as sort of verbal shorthand to mean the following:

wrong/bad/mean/uncaring/selfish --- kart

right/good/gentle/loving/selfless --- Jon

I read the comments to mean that kart has a really wrong influence on the kids, and Jon has a really right influence on the kids.

I agree with both Admin and Siesta.

Deep down, there has to be some goodness/rightness in each of those children even if TLC is only showing their bad behavior.

Respectfully, I didn't see Siesta's comment as inappropriate or trollish. And I thought Admin's comment was on point also.

gotyournumberAsshole said...

I just watched the last episode on You Tube and I really think Kate found out the show was cancelled right before this trip. In Part 1 when she was packing she really had an attitude with the whole thing. I got the feeling TLC just sort of dropped this trip on her at the last minute and she had no choice. She made a comment something like "since we no longer have the luxury of planning our trips anymore". I also think TLC was letting her do most of the work herself. She made another comment about how she thought it was time to turn off the cameras and quit playing filming a show and start to help her.

You know, Kate's ratings weren't the worst. Granted they weren't even close to what they were when Jon was on the show but they weren't terrible either compared to other cable shows. I have a hunch that Kate's attitude and demands had more to cancelling the show than anything. TLC really threw her under the bus these past few episodes big time. I could be wrong but I think TLC was just plain sick of Kate Gosselin. They actually showed Jon and Kevin in a really good light and I thought they were against both of them. Kate did this all to herself and has gotten exactly whay she asked for. IMO..

Audible Click said...

Siesta Key, I'm hoping that (Falling like a brick)simply read your post wrong. Anyway, welcome to the blog.

Siesta Key said...

"I think what Admin and Siesta were trying to say is that the children have two parents who influence them, each in their own way, even if Jon sees them less...wrong/bad/mean/uncaring/selfish --- kart

right/good/gentle/loving/selfless --- Jon"

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Thank you, Permanent. You said it so much better than I could. I think I was so surprised by such a nasty comment by Falling ("a house will drop on you") that I fell short with my explanation.

You explained it, and beautifully!

A troll I am not!

Permanent Name said...

Siesta Key said...

I think I was so surprised by such a nasty comment by Falling ("a house will drop on you") that I fell short with my explanation.

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You're welcome! I too was surprised by that comment..........

Both you and admin are right on point. It makes me sad for the children they can't have two parents who are good and loving parents.

I continue to hope that Jon gets physical custody someday and kart can fly far away for her career.

Teresa said...

@just dwindle & Gossip Thanks for your advice. I'm not computer savvy, all l know is how to turn it on and off. I really appreciate your advice.
All of you are such nice people. I have learned so much from you. Thank you all for creating a wonderful safe place to vent and have a giggle fit. Thank you Admin for running and maintaining this wonderful site. As Tina Turner put it.....Simply the Best!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I also think it says so much about William as to who he has selected as his wife.

A commoner whose family is hard-working and developed a business that brought the family out of middle class from the ground up. No more wealthy than the next kid whose parents worked their butts off. Not royalty. Not old money. Down to earth but still with enough experience in those circles to do well.

He could have easily found some princess of Monocco somewhere. He chose the girl next door.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Thank God for poor Tony.

If he got paired with Nancy Grace he should just accept that God hates him.

I've only watched DWTS for two seasons, one for Kate and once when someone I knew was on....you bet I'm planning to watch this one JUST to see Nancy Grace!!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

As far as I can tell, Jon is the only parent of the two willing to accept that his children are having some issues (as expected and feared, not their fault!!!) because of filming and the show and fame and Kate, and the only one who says they need help and should get it.

You know what? It's hard for a parent to admit things are not all perfect in child-land, let alone to take the next step to get help. It makes some parents feel like it's their fault or they failed somehow. It takes a mature parent to say my kids need help and I want them to get it. Kate will never admit the kids need help because then she thinks she would be admitting she messed them up somehow.

She got what she wanted, full custody. That means she also takes a lot of responsibility for how they behave. Of course she won't.

Teresa said...

Audible Click & Tour Guide...that was hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. Too funny for words!

Kate doesn't rate said...

What is this about?

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin

@TheAustinMartin I am serious! Benefit auction... To meet k+8 fans! Middle of country! Get working! Find a venue and timeframe and you go...

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She's ordering an 18 yr old college boy to organize a "benefit" auction to meet Kate+8???

Permanent Name said...

I'm also going to be watching to see Nancy Grace! She's sure to provide lots of laughs and chortles.

She will also be covering the Michael Jackson doctor trial at the same time. Hope she's a good time manager!

Wonder how long she'll be on before being voted off?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Where is that tweet? The very idea Kate would discuss her children's behavior with her twitter fans is downright shameful.

You could EASILY take that to a family law judge and have a good case for custody. I don't know of any family law judge who would find a celeb discussing children's behavior on twitter appropriate, even pro-mother ones.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wish I had a Nancy Grace blog somewhere so I could recap it!

It's gonna be comedy gold I feel it.

A bit of Brit said...

Administrator said

A commoner whose family is hard-working and developed a business that brought the family out of middle class from the ground up. No more wealthy than the next kid whose parents worked their butts off. Not royalty. Not old money. Down to earth but still with enough experience in those circles to do well.

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Kate Middleton's family is certainly hard-working, but it's not true that they did not have family money. Kate was able to go to the very expensive St. Andrews, where she met William, because there was a family trust to pay for her educational expenses. It paid for her equally tony (and costly) "public" school, too.

Though the Middletons are more or less what people in the USA would probably consider upper middle class, that trust was, literally, "old money", earned by an ancestor, not by her parents.

William set a fine standard by apparently marrying for love, but he did not marry a woman in a marginalized economic class.

Tamara said...

Teresa said...
As for Admin's post of the young princes Harry and William. As an ex-pat, the UK people are very proud of them. Diana didn't raised them to be self-entitled brats. When they went to theme parks, they waited in the line like everyone else. She took them to Aids/Hiv hospitals to teach them compassion. She didn't send them off to private boarding schools ( although, the queen and Charles tried to force her to) She took William to Australia when he was a baby, against the wishes of the Queen and advisers. She was an excellent mother and showed them love and affection her husband never had. The UK wants William and Katherine to be the next head of state, not Charles and Camilla. Diana would be so proud of the way her "boys' have turned out, and so she should be.
Khate is a NOTHING, NO GOOD NOBODY in comparison. Not that l would ever compare her to Diana. With or without the queen's dismissel of Diana's HRH status.
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Um, are you talking about the same Wales brothers the rest of the world knows? William and Harry both went to expensive, socially elite schools from the age of 3. Then boarding school from the age of 8. And as for the theme parks, Diana and Kate actually have something in common: they both made sure cameras were there to capture the moment for good press.

Diana did love her sons very much, but she had a few demons that really ended up hurting them. Charles is a great father and always has been. In some ways he and Jon can be compared. Both of their ex-wives and the mothers of their children had/have mood swings, paranoia, food problems, a need for attention, and a penchant for lying. Plus both Diana and Kate threw their husbands and fathers of their children under the bus (or Range Rover in Diana's case) over and over again and publicly. And BTW, it's Catherine.

Teresa said...

'Katia' is the name of the next hurricane forming - katia = irene ? Somebody 'up there' really doesn't like Khate lol

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Around L.A. I sometimes see little signs set up, much like a "Please wait here" sign, that say something like such and such network or show is filming here and if you enter this area you agree that you might end up on film, along with some small print.

I do not know exactly what their legal obligations are, but I would think it would be at minimum common courtesy to inform people if they're walking into a filming zone.

As for me, when I see these little signs I practically turn and run away. No thank you. Not everyone wants to be famous or be on a reality show. No Kate, I would not do it too and neither would the many other people I've seen choose not to enter those zones. Also a primetime news show is filming at my workplace and I also want absolutely nothing to do with it, as do many of my coworkers.

TLC could easily just stick that sign up at any location and have at it with filming. Or, they can blur faces out.

I do know some states have laws about showing minors' faces without parental consent. When I worked for a national news network we weren't allowed to show stock footage of kids' faces. Only backs and bodies. For instance if there were a piece about back to school you might show some stock of kids getting on a schoolbus, but it would have to be either blurred or no faces, since there's no easy way to track down every kid in the stock footage.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate sure opened a can of worms tonight, first letting her fans know BarbGilmer will send Kate's address to fans and then saying she wants to do a "benefit auction."

icedtea92 Adele M. Vocco
@BarbGilmer barb... Please follow me so I can DM you... I would like to get my books autographed by Kate gosselin. Thanks!

BarbGilmer Barbara Gilmer
@icedtea92 Ask @Kateplusmy8 1st then she can let me know,need her 2 ok it b4 any info is sent,hope u understand! :)

Dancing With Grace said...

If he got paired with Nancy Grace he should just accept that God hates him.

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LOL, admin., you know that they say that God never gives us more than we can handle. Only in this case, I think that even God figured that He would spare Tony from the wrath of Nancy Grace. Kate was more than enough for him to handle.

Pixie said...

Siesta...by Kate's own admission Jon only sees his children 2 weekends a month. If you do the math, most of the year he is with Kate, modeling her behaviour and her mindset that the kids' "Pecking Order" sorts out the arguments.

Thanks for stopping by. I really shouldn't have fed you, but I felt a response was warranted. Now be off or perhaps a house will drop on you too...

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Is this or is this not a 'public' blog? Why are people attacked for posting their thoughts without agreeing with 'the majority'? At least this Sienna poster was respectful.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When Tony is finally at the pearly gates someday he'll just be waved on through, no questions asked. EasyPass lane!

Maggie said...

of @Kateplusmy8 haters need to shut the f up an stop being jealous of her beauty and being an amazing mother

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@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@pdock815 well glad u stated it! Feel better? I agree! :)
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Kate just admitted that haters are jealous of her beauty and being an amazing mother.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Now it's a "fan convention." Oh my word. I think Kate overdid on her meds tonight.

Paige_Kate8lvr √ Verified K8 Fan
Molly to her boyfriend on comming to fan conv to meet @Kateplusmy8 "please please IM GOING TO ANOY YOU UNTIL YOU SAY YES!

Teresa said...

@Admin."And BTW, it's Catherine." I know that. Kate is the name everyone called her, including her parents. I also know she will be crowned queen by her birth name of Catherine. Thanks for the history lesson though.

Siesta Key said...

"You're welcome! I too was surprised by that comment.........."

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In the spring, my cousin's neighborhood was about 70 percent destroyed by a tornado, and she lost her house. She and her husband were inside when it happened. By the grace of God, they escaped with only cuts and bruises, and a broken collarbone, but sadly, her two cats didn't make it.

When I read that "a house will drop on you," I just found it hard to believe that anyone would be that insensitive.

Thanks, again, and I do agree with you that in a perfect world, those children would have two loving parents to nurture them. We can only hope that Jon can provide them with the love and encouragement that Kate can not and will not.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I did not say Kate Middleton's family had no money. Her family clearly has lots of money. I said her family earned the money they have from the ground up. Go back just a few generations and her great-grandfather was a coal miner. There is a trust in her family but it was built with hard work and no one has sat around in her family living off a trust fund, they got out there, started a business and made their own money.

She is VERY new money, and has very hard working blue collar roots. She is not your typical princess by any stretch of the imagination. I don't get the sort of resentment I get the sense some people feel (Kate M. haters? lol) especially from some British folks I know, because of the money situation--I don't know if it's new money snobbery or what.

Also, totally disagree with the characterization of Diana. Those boys adored her and the profound love she had for them, not to mention her subjects and her charities, had a tremendous impact on them. They were lucky to have a good father who snapped out of it too. I have never seen any proof Diana called the paps on the boys, pure speculation. In fact, there is proof to the contrary in famous footage of her at a ski resort going up to a camera man, covering his lens with her hand, and saying I don't care if you film me but when I'm on vacation with my children, buzz off. Hardly consistent with someone who would call the paps.

Also, if she did call the paps on rare occasions, sometimes the idea is that if you just give them the pics you want, they'll leave you alone. The royals themselves allowed paparazzi to film William at his school for a couple days, just to sort of throw them a bone and give them something, with the understanding that in return, they were to leave him the heck alone the rest of the time. The same was done when he did his gap year, they filmed him for a day out of how many days???

There are other motives to call the paparazzi and they don't always mean because you're a pap whore. Sometimes, it means you're trying to get rid of them by giving them something so they'll move on.

Tour Guide said...

Good one Audible Chick! I'm still laughing!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Okay guys....we've been on unmoderated a few weeks and I'm starting to get the sense people are taking advantage of it to play "mean girls."

PLLLEASE be respectful of each other. If you want to be snarky toward someone, resist the urge. If you think a comment is trolly, either respond with your opposing view in a respectful matter, or email me privately to point out a possible troll and I will swiffer it.

I DO NOT want to go back to moderation I cannot tell you how much easier it is to just let everything be free for all.

Snippy comments like, "And BTW, it's Catherine" are so unnecessary. That's only but one example I'm not trying to single anyone out. There have been MANY comments today that, had we been on moderation, I would have deleted. Please bear that in mind.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh let me just add, most people here have not been causing problems.

But there is a growing minority causing problems that are going to ruin it for everyone.

Please read your post twice before you post. If you're being a jerk to someone, take it out. If you're being mean about the kids, take it out. If you're going off on some troll, take it out.

Teresa said...

Teresa said... @Admin."And BTW, it's Catherine." I know that. Kate is the name everyone called her, including her parents. I also know she will be crowned queen by her birth name of Catherine. Thanks for the history lesson though.
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Sorry, l meant for that posting to reply to Tamara NOT Admin.

cat said...

O.T. but intrigued: Prince Harry's paternity? My radar goes WAY up when any story of the English royals is on the 'net or otherwise,and other than a few offhand comments very occasionally, I have not heard any REAL controversy about the young man's paternity. Besides, I am SURE Charles considers that boy/young man HIS SON, and that Harry only knows Charles as his father. Yes, his judgement has been squirrely at times; but I will say one thing: he has one thing going for him that tragedy or entitled living cannot erase: he had Diana as his mom. See, I am her age (the age she would have been this year was 50 last month; and I am about to turn 50)-- I REMEMBER the wedding, the birth of "Wills" and subsequently, Harry. She was a HANDS-ON MOM. And she *HAD* help! Lots of it! She CHOSE to parent her OWN children. I remember at the time how confused the Queen was as to Diana's "mothering tactics." Even chose to have CHarles in the delivery room, etc. And once they divorced, she was often photographed with her sons having FUN and laughing, being affectionate. I remember one picture in particular, of the 3of them at some theme park (I am sure there was security there too,and NOT security of the Steve Neild ilk). Diana was throwing her arms way up in the air and had a smile as wide as Texas as they all plunged down a log flume ride and got splashed all up to Hades and back.! She LOVED being a mom. To tie this in to the Gosselins--the G kids don't have that in their "mother",and never will. Harry may be a bit of a wild one, (many royals are actually), but he had that solid foundation that the Gosselin kids do NOT have, and never WILL have. FOr that reason, especially for the boys of the family, I do not have high hopes that all of them are going to "turn out well." THere ARE going to be problems, at least with some ofthose kids.! One can already see it. If so little is shown ON camera that already showcases these disturbing signs, how much *more* occurs on a continual daily basis?

Mom In Lancaster County said...

Kate just admitted that haters are jealous of her beauty and being an amazing mother.

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They should see her up close and personal! Beauty isn't a word I would ever use! In the past few years, she has destroyed her looks so much that she can hardly be recognized as the same person.

Nobody Likes A Narcissist -- did you ever call Discovery to find out if they investigated Kate's twitter contest?

PJ's momma said...

Permanent Name, Admin sort of beat me to it, but I live near the Space Needle and Pike Place Market in Seattle, and every so often a movie is filmed here (whether it's ever released or not) and there will be signs saying you are entering a movie set and by proceeding, you are consenting to being filmed and possibly being shown in a movie. However, at the sites where she was freaking like an idiot and people were shown around them, I had to wonder, because those are national parks, public land if you will. Don't know what the rules are on that and I wondered if they instead got releases from the people who were shown. But on private property, it's fair game.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

Oh, and admin, I wish you could do a recap on Nancy's dance. I'd love to hear you snark when she blows kisses to her adorable twins (and you just know that she will)!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If we are jealous of Kate's beauty and being an amazing mother, why are we not jealous of many other celebs out there who are beautiful and have been photographed being good mothers? I don't see any chat about that. We point out the bad mothers, Kate and Casey Anthony and Nancy Grace, and we commend the good mothers, Angelina Jolie, Princess Diana, Pamela Andersen. Here theory once again has no logic.

It's so simple for Kate to suggest it's jealousy. It puts all the blame on us, and none on her.

Teresa said...

Can we move on from the British Royal family? I don't want to get into a pissing contest. I said up thread that l feel this is a safe place to be, a place of peace and respect.

fidosmommy said...

Does anybody have the origin of the phrase "throw under the bus"? It's said over and over and over again here, and I'd never heard it before.

Dallas Lady said...

Tamara:

I really don't take kindly to badmouthing Diana. I know people can express whatever opinion they wish to, but she's dead. And she was NOTHING like Kate Gosselin. Could we let her rest in peace?

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The only reason I even brought up Harry was not to hold him up as some example of perfect behavior (and that dig about his paternity is uncalled for and unsubstantiated). I just wanted to contrast someone as important as Harry waving off the idea of going to a "VIP" area in a nightclub with Kate. Kate would have DEMANDED the VIP area and then she would have pitched a shit fit if she even thought anyone was taking a picture anywhere in her vicinity.

She's so full of herself. And there are people in this world, REAL celebrities, who never act like that and don't really have a problem with security, the public, etc.

That was my only point.

Anonymous said...

There are signs in Vegas also. Especially at the Palms. Something to the effect that if you linger in the area you are consenting to the possibility of being filmed for commercial or artistic purposes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The first time I really remember hearing it was I think The Apprentice. But apparently sportscasters really started it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throw_under_the_bus

Now I hear it all the time! Heck we even use it in court lol. You threw my client under the bus!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hey even if there are no recaps we can look forward to snarking on Nancy Grace here! Cannot....wait.

Anonymous said...

The misunderstood Just Sayin said:

Thank you No Regrets for taking the time to explain all the misunderstandings. I totally see now how others were confused. I was out of order to get so defensive. For that I'm sorry. I meant no harm to anyone. I have never posted on other blogs before and I should have researched it more before I posted here. I did purposely used caps for my name thinking that it would show that I was not a sheeple. That's what I get for doing my own thinking. (snark) Thanks again for your kindness. It made me smile. hehe

Dallas Lady said...

Teresa, I totally agree. Admin, I have loved the unmoderated mode, but it does feel different lately. Sigh. This is why we can't have nice things, people! (Kidding!)

I should't be surprised, but my mouth is just hanging open that Kate is telling a college kid to organize a fundraising "Meet Kate" benefit. What the hell? She has no intention of going to something like that--she won't even send back an autograph in one of her books unless they also send a postage paid envelope! What makes them think she's actually going to go to a function without getting paid???

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Are the twitter fans going to pay for Kate's transportation to this twitter party, as well as her lodging and food? Will she have a rider?

Will Kate bring her books along, and charge the tweeties full price for them when they can buy them at the Dollar Store? Will she be selling pics of the kids for $20 each, cash only?

Will Steve be there to protect her from her rabid fans?

Will Brown Noser take her an assortment of homemade gifts? Will Big Fan show up in Spandex?

Stay tuned!

fidosmommy said...

Thanks, Admin. (under the bus reference)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think it's sick to play with her fans like that. Over her dead body she'd ever go, gimme a break. If she goes I'll eat my organic hat.

She toys with these young kids. It's one serious thing to have an obsessed teen fan, it's quite another to fill them with notions that if they organize some meet and greet they would actually show up. She is feeding delusions and fantasies and it's....mean.

Like telling a kid we'll go to Disney Land this summer, and you never do. Jerk.

Also, it's freaking DANGEROUS.

Mom In Lancaster County said...

admin said...Hey even if there are no recaps we can look forward to snarking on Nancy Grace here! Cannot....wait.

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I detest that woman almost as much as I detest Kate. Yes, that much!

hey jude said...

Tamara,

I must respectfully disagree with you about Princess Diana. She was a young girl who married an older man, who was not in love with her. He was a good father to both boys, but he was not a good husband to Diana. He was unfaithful and that would cause anyone to have issues!

This manifested itself in Diana in some problems, but she was a wonderful Mother and she did love her husband. She and Kate shouldn't even be in the same sentence.Kate is a fame whore who asks for the paps, Diana let them take a few pictures and asked for them to leave the boys alone.

Kate can't get enough of the paps attention for herself first, then the kids.The princes knew their Mother and that she loved them very much. Kate loves herself and says she loves the kids, but the kids never hear that or see it in her actions.

You can like Kate all you want, but don't even try to compare her to Princess Diana!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Nancy Grace is like a highly educated, hard working, lawyer version of Kate.

If Kate and her pea brain ever managed to figure out how to become an attorney and have twins at age 70, she would be Nancy Grace.

PJ's momma said...

A wall post from The Talk's facebook page. Kate is not mentioned and it sounds like they filled up in the fill-in schedule:

NEW YORK -- A person familiar with the CBS daytime show "The Talk" has told The Associated Press the show is adding two new faces to its second season.

The person said Kris Jenner, reality TV personality, will fill in for Sharon Osbourne for two weeks at the start of the new season and could be a regular fill-on for Osbourne. The other will be comedian and radio personality Sheryl Underwood. She will co-host the show for the first two weeks and could stay on. The person was not authorized to discuss the cast and spoke on condition of anonymity.

"The Talk" debuts its second season Sept. 6 with returning hosts Osbourne, Julie Chen and Sara Gilbert.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Are the twitter fans going to pay for Kate's transportation to this twitter party, as well as her lodging and food? Will she have a rider?

Will Kate bring her books along, and charge the tweeties full price for them when they can buy them at the Dollar Store? Will she be selling pics of the kids for $20 each, cash only?

Will Steve be there to protect her from her rabid fans?

Will Brown Noser take her an assortment of homemade gifts? Will Big Fan show up in Spandex?
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Maybe her fans will offer their stuff for auction, and the money will go to Kate for her travel expenses!

Kate doesn't rate said...

Will Brown Noser take her an assortment of homemade gifts? Will Big Fan show up in Spandex?
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Too funny!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I looked on youtube trying to find the clip of Diana telling the paparazzi to f-off and stumbled upon this video interview with a paparazzo on a ski trip Diana went on with the boys to Austria:

"She was at lunch and there was photographers outside, and she came out of lunch, and she came across, and basically said, 'These lenses are very daunting for the children,' and could we please leave her alone."

Here is Diana's exact quote when she marched up to the cameras and covered the lens with her hand in that famous clip, "As a parent, could I ask you to respect my children's space?"

This is a woman who outright confronted the paps and told them to please LEAVE HER KIDS THE F ALONE.

Like Kate would ever do that.

A small point said...

Dallas Lady said

that dig about his paternity is uncalled for and unsubstantiated).

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It's a relevant comment because Prince Harry was (and is) an innocent party who has been seriously hurt by his parents' bad, public, behaviour.

Whether one believes that Prince Charles is his biological father or not, Prince Harry has borne the brunt of having his parents' private affairs splashed all over the world.

His acting out was a predictable consequence, just as many of us here believe that we will see similar behaviours from the Gosselin as children as they grow older.

Growing up in the media, any media, is a very, very bad thing for children, and it's not very good for young adults, either.

Anonymous said...

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!! Blogger is back to swallowing my posts again. This is getting pretty old.

I disagree with the poster upthread who said that Kate didn't have any rules for her kids. Kate has too many rules for her kids. She has rules for when they're required to go to bed and for how long they're required to stay in bed. She has rules about what they're allowed to wear. She has rules about not getting dirty. She even has rules about which order they're required to eat their lunch. What she doesn't have is clear, consistent, age-appropriate rules about their behavior. Unfortunately, those are the rules they need. The rest are just Kate being a control freak.

We're "jus' jellus" of Kate's beauty? What beauty? She looks like a scarecrow, IMO. She was much more attractive when she was about 20# heavier, wore little make-up, and wore "mom" shoes and clothing. I'm old enough to be her mother, and my skin looks younger and healthier than hers.

readerlady

Are These What You Were Looking For said...

JessBSN10Jessica N S......
So watching it now can u admit ur kid was being a brat and clay did nothing to them about their legos @Kateplusmy8
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@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@JessBSN10 once I saw the footage from the other RV and have the whole story- yes, clay did nothing! :)
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@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@smk04362um, he riles up all the older girls, his sisters included!They didn't show the days leading up to caras meltdown but she was wrong!
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my8fansCara
@Kateplusmy8 seems like mady and cara switched personalities a little in the last year

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@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@my8fans sure did! Always have! Twins do that

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Throwing your own children under the bus.

I've truly never seen anything like this and I work in family law!

hey jude said...

Admin.

Thanks for the laugh, an educated version of Kate, ha ha ha.No wonder I can't stand Nancy Grace! I am going to vote for her every week, just so I can hear the judges make fun of her and she won't be able to butt in with her idiotic mouth!

I want her to stay as long as possible and I hope he works her butt off.Please do the re-caps here! It will be fun!

Audible Click said...

I wonder if Kate agreeing to go to a fan/sheeple meeting is a sign that she's on her own and using her incredibly poor judgement. I would think that if Steve were around he would have advised her not to agree to meet them. It would be like Kate to ignore ant advice and suck up the adoration and then just blow off the meeting. All she had to do was say nothing at all but she's such an emotional vampire that she just sucks up all the attention and licks her lips for more.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Administrator said...

Throwing your own children under the bus.

I've truly never seen anything like this and I work in family law!

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Should Jon make copies of those tweets before Kate deletes them?

Audible Click said...

I don't know how I came up with "ant" advice, sorry.

Permanent Name said...

Administrator said...

Here is Diana's exact quote when she marched up to the cameras and covered the lens with her hand in that famous clip, "As a parent, could I ask you to respect my children's space?"

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Diana was a dignified lady with class. No screeching, flapping hands for her.

You can't ever put Diana.

And kart in the same sentence.

Diana was gracious and cared about her children.

Permanent Name said...

BTW Admin, thank you for finding that reference. I remember that clip. Diana always had a shy but dignified manner about her.

Dancing With Grace said...

If Kate and her pea brain ever managed to figure out how to become an attorney and have twins at age 70, she would be Nancy Grace.

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Funny! She'd also have to learn how to rat up her hair on the top, and say "minnie, minnie years ago..."

Nancy brings up that she's a crime victim - her boyfriend Keith was murdered.
Kate could play the divorce victim and throw digs at Jon whenever the mood hit her.

Yes. Two peas in a pod!

Tamara said...

hey jude said...
Tamara,

I must respectfully disagree with you about Princess Diana. She was a young girl who married an older man, who was not in love with her. He was a good father to both boys, but he was not a good husband to Diana. He was unfaithful and that would cause anyone to have issues! This manifested itself in Diana in some problems, but she was a wonderful Mother and she did love her husband. She and Kate shouldn't even be in the same sentence.Kate is a fame whore who asks for the paps, Diana let them take a few pictures and asked for them to leave the boys alone.Kate can't get enough of the paps attention for herself first, then the kids.The princes knew their Mother and that she loved them very much. Kate loves herself and says she loves the kids, but the kids never hear that or see it in her actions.

You can like Kate all you want, but don't even try to compare her to Princess Diana!


Hey Jude (don't make it bad, take a sad song and make it better)


Diana did not love Charles, and he didn't love her. They both, sadly, entered into that marriage for all the wrong reasons. A lot Diana's problems started long before she ever started dating Charles. Abandonment issues with her Mum, and eating disorders, just like her sister. While Charles cheating, and so blatantly, was definitely horrible for her, as it is for any wife, but she cheated as well. And it wasn't just one man, there were a lot of them. Plus, she may have cheated first... Diana sometimes ask the paps to leave her and her kids alone (see the famous skiing hand over camera incident) but she also loved the attention and would keep the paparazzi informed of where she was going. She tried to use the press and in the end those actions had horrible consequences. That and the stomach clenching pain that if she had worn a seatbelt she would have lived. Of course Will and Haz knew their mum loved them, and still loves them. I am in NO WAY comparing that with Kate. While Diana definitely had serious problems that hurt her kids a lot, she also had a tremendously loving, caring, kind, funny, empathetic side. All things Kate doesn't have, and never did. And I don't like Kate at all! Curious how you get that idea from anything I've posted before here. :)

Maggie said...

A few hours ago Kate made several twitter comments strongly implying she may be on The Talk. A just checked her twitter feed and all those comments from Kate are gone. I wonder why she removed them.

I hope The Talk did tell her she could be on to fill in for a week or two. Then after seeing her act like the bitch from hell on her last episode they withdrew the offer. Wouldn't that be great if The Talk did that. Offer her the job and then take it away from her. I can only hope that is what happened. But I am afraid that in the next few days there will probably be an announcement that she will be a fill-in host.

Also today she accepted an offer from the brownlow twitter woman to talk at one of her gigs. She even said she would DM her. Again, that was removed. And brownlow is upset about it. Again, I wonder what happened.

Dallas Lady said...

Jealous of Kate's beauty??? Her BEAUTY? I actually laughed hard when I read that.

First of all, if we're talking about inner beauty, there's nothing to be jealous of. She has none. Full stop.

If we're talking appearances, I'm also at a loss as to what I'm supposed to be jealous about. She's four years younger than I am and looks a full decade older. She has dead eyes and it looks as if she's jacking with them surgically. Her hair is dyed, fried, and laid to the side, as they say. It's just overprocessed hay.

The tanning is just gross. You know what she reminds me of? A woman deep in her 40s who is just trying too damn hard to look young.

She's 40 miles of bad road. I fail to see what I'm supposed to be so jealous of.

Teresa said...

I hope this kid doesn't put up any money, or worse, borrow money to get Khate+8 to any gig! Glad it's not my kid.

@TheAustinMartinAustin Martin

@LEIGHSHAHAN1 @Kateplusmy8 OMG!If kate is serious! I will start researching, planning, & finding the perfect location& funraiser/charity!!!

hey jude said...

Admin.

Do you think Kate knows the ages of her tweenies and just doesn't care, as long as they adore her? Too bad she can't be interested in her twins who are closer to the ages of her tweeting fans, pitiful mother......That really makes me sad, poor kids don't stand a chance.

mamaK said...

I watched the show on youtube. I was horrified by the footage of Kate throwing a coat/hoddie in the face of one of the little girls for no reason what so ever. And it was totally vindictive and mean on Kate's part. She was just mad. If that is how she acts when cameras are rolling, I don't want to know what she is like for "real". But I pray for those poor kids.
The other part that struck me was when they were sitting watching Old Faithful Kate says she feels like Old Faithful and is going to spew at any moment. Jamie is sitting next to her and says I know (or something in agreement). Kate sits there wearing sunglasses the whole time. I'm assuming from this scean that they were drinking and I think that that is inappropriate. Sitting around the campfire having a beer, some wine, a cooler, whatever, sure. Drinking to the point of being hungover and sick the next day? When you have 11 children in your care (so they claim)? Irresponsible. And I wonder too if they were letting Ashley (who was 20 right?) drink. I'm shocked that TLC ran this. They really are the bottom of the barrel. AND I am horrified for Kate that she is encouraging people to watch! I am not a perfect parent, but if you caught me in those moments and put me on national tv, I would die of shame! Those poor, poor children!!!

mamaK said...

So Kate's fans want her to sign their books, and she responds by telling them to get in touch with another fan to get her address? What the heck? Doesn't she have Julie May? An agent? Anything? Or has TLC really dropped her?

hey jude said...

Oh, Dallas lady, you are going to kill me. That was the funniest post! Her hair is dyed,fried and laid to the side- pretty expensive over- processed hay! It resembles baler twine, doesn't it? She has been rode hard and put away wet! ha ha ha...ha ha ha..thanks for the belly laugh! he he he...help me....ROTFLMAO!!!!

Teresa said...

Dalla lady
you should write jokes for Leno or some comedian. You are side-splitting hilariously funny. I love you! LOL

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm working on the recap, this is truly a smorgasbord of snark, I don't even know where to begin with this.

Permanent Name said...

Someone should really twit that kid about kart and the 'reunion/fundraiser' thing.

It would be a shame if he put any time, effort or money in it.

Makes you wonder if she has been cut loose completely from TLC and thinks she can be her own publicist.....

Not going to end well, that's all I've got to say..... LOL

Teresa said...

The kid will lose a lot more than money if Kart decides not to go through with this. I see law suits galore. And the poor kid will never live it down. Hope he's stable enough to cope if kart
backs out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Also, a "fundraiser" to raise money for little ole yourself is not going to get past Mr. Tax Man, Kate.

Tamara said...

Would Kate go as far as to drag the kids to an event like that? Sitting them behind a table like at Star Trek conventions and make them sign autographs for drooling sheeple?

Makes me think of that film "Galaxy Quest"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tamara said...

Would Kate go as far as to drag the kids to an event like that?

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If the price is right, you bet she would.

This blog needs to stick around if only to be a watchdog on that Twatter of hers.

Teresa said...

The whole idea is for Khate AND the kids to be there.

Tamara said...

That is such a scary idea that I think Jon would have to try and intervene. The trips for filming are bad enough, but to put those kids in a room with a group of obsessed fans and all of the dangers people have been warning Kate about... I can't even finish the thought. If TLC isn't filming there most likely won't be any security. Very scary

Teresa said...

http://twitter.com/#!/TheAustinMartin/media/grid

This is the kid that is organizing the benefit/fundraiser. A teenager of course.

Teresa said...

I think he looks a little like Josh Groban

Ingrid said...

Found this tweets that I had read earler. I don't think she has been asked to be on the Talk. She is just dreaming again.

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @sarahjoyce1992 @Kateplusmy8 is it tru ur co-hosting The Talk 4 sum of this season?:) IN GENERAL,WHEN DREAM OPP COMES,IM TAKING IT!

AinaLynne Lynne Carey
@
@Kateplusmy8 @sarahjoyce1992 Can't wait to see you on the Talk, great NEWS!

Kateplusmy8
@AinaLynne @sarahjoyce1992 I didn't say that... I said, I'm dreaming of something like that... :) I answered in general :(

Falling like a brick said...

! ! ! Siesta! ! ! !

READ THIS

Dear Siesta ----- I apologize to you for my response to your comment. I just reread your comment I thought you had written "WRONG" instead of "RIGHT" (didn't have my glasses on at the time and just 'assumed') I made and A$$ out of myself. Can you forgive me for the snark?

I'll make you some yummy (virtual cookies). :-)

dee3 said...

I'm rather ambivalent about Kate being on a talk show. On the one hand, I would like to see her doing anything that does not involve filming the children....but on the other hand, I don't feel she is deserving of any more opportunities in the entertainment industry.

That being said, I believe that any opportunity like this would shake out just like DWTS. It would showcase just how terrible Kate would be hosting a talk show. And she does indeed have the worst personality that anyone would want to hire as a talk-show hostess. I think that any opportunity like this would just put more nails in Kate's coffin.

I agree with the person here who said she would only be good on things like infomercials, etc. And you can make a heck of a lot of $ doing these things...having a clothing line, going on HSN or QVC, endorsing certain products. But I've often wondered if Kate is not only concerned about the $....but that she may be even more concerned with having her face on camera, being a celebrity.

Producers may initially have some interest in her....because she is relevant right now in terms of her show being cancelled and so many people not liking her. But for any sort of long-term gig, you have to have talent. And she does not. I mean, if they more or less fired Holly Peete and Leah Remini......what would they expect from Kate? Those two women would be a hundred times better than her.....so if they let them go, they surely wouldn't be impressed or interested in Kate hosting for very long.

This situation reminds me of the ones involving Jessica Simpson and Vanna White. Just because you are a decent singer or a game show hostess...does not mean you can act. In fact, Vanna White's performance in the one and only movie would also fit into the ballpark of "things that make you cringe and look away". JS's acting better than VW's but still terrible.....why you don't see them getting acting gigs. Once they show their lack of talent...no more acting
gigs.

Anonymous said...

Admin,
What happened to Kate's tweets at the top of this page. I have been without power and not online for days due to Hurricane Irene. We are digging out big time here in upstate New York. Stopped to see what was up here and don't see Kate's ramblings on top.

dee3 said...

Also...regarding "scripting".....now that I think about it, I guess the term could be used for anything from memorizing lines to having a completely pre-planned and set-up scenario.

But I feel pretty certain that reality stars don't memorize lines or follow a written script...because they would have to know how to do acting to pull that off and look believable.....and most of these reality stars don't have the acting talent nor the acting skills to pull it off.

However, I totally believe the scenarios are total set-ups.....like wedding vows scenario in Hawaii...and probably this RV trip. I don't see Kate wanting to take that sort of vacation. In fact, it sounds like she was totally pissed about it. She's more the luxury resort type.

Falling like a brick said...

Dee3: Kate tweeted to Ashley earlier in the year about driving a lot this summer. At that point a lot of us thought an RV trip was on the plans for the show this summer.

I do however think Kate wasn't aware that it also involved sleeping in the RV over night, in close quarters with her kids. She probably thought they'd drive to a hotel after filming for the day stopped.
I think you are right about finding out that little detail at the last minute which is why she was pi$$ed.

Falling like a brick said...

She is just now tweeting this after her 'fans' were up all night planning out their fan-party/auction fundraiser:

@TheAustinMartin you're serious... Arent you?? Ok. See what you can do! I'll be impressed if you can pull it off! :) oooohh a challenge!


It seems she was just egging him on about the fundraiser but didn't think it was real. Kate, these are teenage kids, not toys for your enjoyment to lead on. These 'kids' are Obsessed with you. Someone needs to step in here. She is off her rocker for engaging these children in this way.

Maggie said...

Austin Martin
GM! All! Gonna make a few calls today & tomorrow to see what's possible (location and fundraiser) &hopefully run those ideas by @Kateplusmy8
replies ↓

Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@TheAustinMartin you're serious... Arent you?? Ok. See what you can do! I'll be impressed if you can pull it off! :) oooohh a challenge
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What a bitch and a tease Kate is. Last night she twice told Austin to find a location for all her twitter fams so they could meet. And make it a fundraiser. Again, Kate initiated the whole thing and twice commanded him to do this. Well, first thing this morning Austin twitters the above and Kate responds that she questions him that he was serious about the whole thing. It looks like Kate may have a change of mind from last night. All all twitter fans have been talking last night on tinychat about this event.

gotyournumberKate said...

Dee3 I totally agree with your thoughts of Kate on a talk show. I think it would be great if she could find a job that makes her happy without the kids. However, I dod not think a talk show is the format for Kate. It's Kate's nature to talk about Kate. No matter what the subject it always comes back to Kate. She showed us this in her brief stints as an interviewer with E. Kate loves to talk about Kate. Talk show hosts need to be able to listen and care about others and Kate simply doesn't have that capacity and never will. Kate is all about being humble right now on Twitter and showing her fans appreciation and love. It's just a matter of time before she goes back to her ungrateful, diva ways. The one thing that does bother me with Kate hosting The Talk on a fulltime basis is it is filmed in LA. Will she uproot the kids or leave them with fulltime nannies. As much as she goes on about how their house is their home it wouldn't surprise me a bit for her to move them to LA to pursue her own dreams. I hope Jon has some say in it if it does come to this.

Dallas Lady said...

Thanks, y'all. Kate seems to bring out my snark pretty well.

Did anyone catch Kate's tweet this morning to that poor kid organizing a fan get-together/fundraiser (for Kate)? My jaw dropped:

"you're serious...Aren't you?? Ok. See what you can do! I'll be impressed if you can pull it off. :) Oooo a challenge!"

What.

A.

Wench.

Just last night, she was all "DOOOOO IT!!!!" That's WHY he got all excited and the twitterers started planning! (Does she drink at night, or just enjoy toying with people? Or both?)

Just like with the signs, I'm really feeling sorry for her twitter fans. I don't know if they read here, but I hope to God they don't spend their time, energy or money
on this, because she's not going to go to Missouri for them (where he wants to have it).

HollyMo said...

Hey jude, you asked about corn cob jelly - it's the first year I've made it so I don't know too much about it (no feedback yet!). It came out runny, and I had to re-make it so it actually looks like jelly. It is supposed to have a mild honey-like flavour.
BTW I'm in Canada too (MB) but originally from the States.
And as you all figured out, it wasn't me with the coke roast recipe (nor Nana Janet roast)!

No Regrets said...

This auction has my head spinning too. I was involved in setting one up with 5 other people. It took us 4 months. I hope he has the money to rent the venue, unless he can find a donated one (good luck with that) or reduced price. He will need a legal adult to conduct most of the business involved, he is too young. He will have to get items worthy to auction, donated (good luck with THAT also) Many places are generous, but this not a big celebrity and depends on the charity they will be donating to. Licensing, forms, many fees and much money involved in initial layout of an event like this. Food, drinks cash bar? Etc etc etc Hopefully, he can get back any money paid out, if the auction is successful.

WHY put this auction/fundraiser stipulation on the meet? She can write off the entire trip that is why. Just make it a meet and greet. PERIOD. That won't get as much publicity nor make her look "giving back-ish". She only wants to make HERSELF look good. Idiot.

I do hope this kid finds out all that is involved quickly, before he gets too deep with money and time. Shame on that fool of a woman. Using her fans once again. She sits on her butt directing the fans DO THIS, ARRANGE THIS, even asking fans if they have contact info for that sextuplets born in PA. Too lazy to look up herself, plus she HAD to let the 'world' know

I am reallllllllllly despising her more and more.

Anonymous said...

Dallas Lady - Your posts make me laugh. I think I read on one of your earlier posts that your mom as also a narcissist and Kate is shockingly similar. My mother in law is one as well and like you, Kate is so much like her it's scary. Right down to her mannerisms. Head and nose in the air, never looking anyone directly, and just an overall "I'm better than you" demeanor.

The way she treats her kids is exactly how my husband's mother treated her kids. They were an absolute thorn in her side. She also would lavish loads of attention and affection on other children, but not her own.

Kate requesting they send a pre-paid postage with their book to be signed is so typical of a narcissist. She seems to forget the fact that these people paid money that went in her pocket for this book. She is not about to give up any of her own money to send the signed book back to them. She's got 8 - count them 8 - kids to feed.

There will come a day when if not all, most of her kids have nothing to do with her. She will spend every dime they worked 6 years to earn. She won't so much as HELP pay for their first cars, their college, their weddings. And when they turn on her and only have a relationship with Jon, she will cry "I worked so hard all those years to give them lots of once in a lifetime opportunities and this is how they repay me?" Once again, poor Kate.

This is what has always perplexed me about the 'fans' - Kate is always crying about this or that and she's always pointing fingers at everyone but herself. At some point, don't you have to wonder why NOTHING is ever her fault? Nothing. Ever. It just doesn't add up.

Maggie said...

Isn't Austin 18 years old? I think he is in first yr. of college. Isn't that legal age for him to enter into a contract? I agree Kate is a fool. Way to many details to put on him. I dont' think Kate mentioned the word "auction" but I guess this is the only way to have a benefit for a charity. What a mess she is creating. I hope her fans are burned by her so they will know the REAL Kate.

No Regrets said...

This auction/meet is for the tweetie fans?? So all, what 25 of them, will travel across country, take enough money to bid on items, hotels, food, travel expenses. Ohhhhhh ok LOL Most are teens.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Maggie, Kate's comments regarding The Talk are NOT gone. Here they are (from the top down):

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@sarahjoyce1992 I didn't say that... I said WHEN my dream OPP knocks, I will take it! Lol! U hopeful fans! :)
13 hours ago
Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@BigFanofKateG So you think it's true huh? Reaalllly... Think I'd do a good job? Would you watch?
13 hours ago
Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@AinaLynne @sarahjoyce1992 I didn't say that... I said, I'm dreaming of something like that... :) I answered in general :(
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @sarahjoyce1992 @Kateplusmy8 is it tru ur co-hosting The Talk 4 sum of this season?:) IN GENERAL,WHEN DREAM OPP COMES,IM TAKING IT!
13 hours ago
Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@sarahjoyce1992 in general I'll say that when (my dream) opportunity comes a-knockin', I'm taking it! ;)

No Regrets said...

Maggie said...
Isn't Austin 18 years old? I think he is in first yr. of college. Isn't that legal age for him to enter into a contract? I agree Kate is a fool. Way to many details to put on him. I dont' think Kate mentioned the word "auction" but I guess this is the only way to have a benefit for a charity"

Age depends on the state. Some accept 18 others 21. I will tell you most businesses will NOT be comfortable dealing with a young person like this. Legal or not. I can just see so many problems for the kid. And Yes, it was Kate who said Auction. She is SICKENING

No Regrets said...

These fans have made themselves look like a crazy mob to stand by her, give them a freakin crumb, Kate. Just set up a meet and greet to THANK these people.

That would be simple, inexpensive and give the fans a better chance to go where it is set up. I am so outraged by her diva butt. LOL

Maggie said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... Maggie, Kate's comments regarding The Talk are NOT gone. Here they are (from the top down):
__________________________
Thanks but Kate had many more that were very close to implying that she may be on The Talk. It was right before the ones that you quoted. In face, someone told her she would never be on it and she wrote them back something like: NEVA SAY NEVA!!!!!!!!

Falling like a brick said...

I'm reposting this because I don't want Siesta Key to miss it...

! ! ! Siesta! ! ! !

READ THIS


Dear Siesta ----- I apologize to you for my response to your comment. I just reread your comment I thought you had written "WRONG" instead of "RIGHT" (didn't have my glasses on at the time and just 'assumed') I made and A$$ out of myself. Can you forgive me for the snark?

I'll make you some yummy (virtual cookies). :-)

No Regrets said...

"Anonymous said...
The misunderstood Just Sayin said:

Thank you No Regrets for taking the time to explain all the misunderstandings. I totally see now how others were confused. I was out of order to get so defensive. For that I'm sorry. I meant no harm to anyone. I have never posted on other blogs before and I should have researched it more before I posted here. I did purposely used caps for my name thinking that it would show that I was not a sheeple. That's what I get for doing my own thinking. (snark) Thanks again for your kindness. It made me smile. hehe"

You are welcomed! I do enjoy posting with you. Glad you worked it out.

JudyK said...

OT, but since it was discussed in another thread, here's an update on Russell Armstrong. He had multiple personal problems totally unrelated to the show:
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/taylor-armstrong-considering-fbi-over-russell-pal-suicides

Taylor Armstrong is mystified about the reason her estranged husband, Russell Armstrong, and business associate, Alan Schram, both committed suicide within days of each other.

The reality TV star is so baffled, in fact, that shes considering turning to the FBI to determine if there was a criminal motivation for the suicides, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Schram shot himself in the head, the day after Russell's body was found hanging from electrical chord at a friend's house in Los Angeles on August 15.



Russell Armstrong and Alan Schram were both members of the same club -- a group of investors who critiqued each other's financial portfolios and Schram was the managing partner of Wellcap, a Los Angeles based hedge fund.



Even though the Los Angeles Coroner ruled both deaths a suicide, a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com: "Taylor is leaning towards turning over some information that might be of interest to the FBI, which could shed some light as to why both men killed themselves.



"Taylor's instincts are absolutely telling her that something much more was going on with these two men, than anyone knows about," the source continues.



"Could it involve criminal activity? Very possibly. Taylor is going through Russell's things and paperwork and sorting through information, and putting aside things that she thinks are out of the norm. It's very likely she will be turning over that information to the FBI.



"Russell was a very secretive person. Taylor was unaware that he had stopped taking his anti-depressant medications in the two weeks prior to his suicide, even though he swore to her he was taking them," the source revealed.

Calls to Taylor's rep for comment were not returned at time of posting.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Maggie, are these the ones? I'm in rather a hurry this am and didn't cut and paste them all earlier:

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @mkbrownlow @kateplusmy8 I dont watch talkshows but if YOU r on,I will grab my ottoman&mybonbons! &@jenniegbrowncan come ovr! SOUNDS FUN!
13 hours ago

Kate Gosselin
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @cristinlin please say its true..@Kateplusmy8 I cannot.. I'm still dreaming! Imagine the sparks if it was! Lol! I have LOTS to say! :)

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

WOW! She has fans sending her gifts, running around putting up signs to watch her show, and now this Meet/Auction/Charity Affair. This is completely inappropriate, as I seriously doubt she has any intention of following through. To think she has this poor kid working on this and will most likely not follow through is despicable.

Someone said Twittering would be her undoing and I have to agree. She should not be encouraging someone to do something which she has no intention of following through on. This woman is circling the drain and I think she knows it.

The words Charity and Kate do not belong in the same sentence. Unless it involves a $250,000 paycheck, with luxury accommodations, airfare, food and clothing money. Not going to happen. She really is vile!

Maggie said...

Austin lives in Michigan. I looked it up and the legal age to enter into a contract in that state is 18.

If Kate truly wants to meet her twitter fans then SHE should organize a simply meet and greet. Perhaps do it at a public place near her home next summer. For instance, where the tups had their 6 yr. old birthday party. It has a large covering in case of rain. And she should pay for the expenses of simple food and rental if there is a fee to do so. The place looked like it had plenty of room for outside games, i.e. volleyball. To put all that trouble and worry for a first year college student is asking for trouble.

Jenna Does said...

I'm just kind of catching up- you all type fast!! I have had a couple days of hell.

OK. So yesterday ay the doctors, this little chubby kid (I LOVE chubby little kids, although if Michelle Obama had seen him, she would have flipped out) had to be about 3. His clothes were 2 sizes to small, still in a diaper (I can't remember if that's OK or not) & this kid was wild. Was running wild in the waiting room, he stepped on this old guy's foot. The mom, who I'm sorry to say was quite a large woman herself, just sat there, doing nothing to reel her son in. No, "Get over here so & so" Just. Sat. There. I was called in so didn't see the ending. But suffice it to say, the people in the waiting room were NOT pleased. If it had been MY foot, I would have kindly asked her to please TAKE CARE OF YOUR KID!!

This is just lazy parenting. It's all over the place. I can't speak for everyone, but I see it all the time. This is why kids have ZERO manners, they sit in front in front of video games all day, they are rude, self-entitled little snots who think the world owes them a living. Kate is doing the SAME THING. She thinks it's the 'hip' thing to do. Lazy ass parenting. And Kate wins the prize for one of the worse EVER in the USA. And it's NOT the kids fault. It's the parents who show the kids it's OK to act that way. It's sad!!
~Hippie Chick~

No Regrets said...

Just a question to some of you smart people. If one has a workshop mentoring teens, shouldn't that person have some sort of a degree/training in counseling, child development or something?

Not sure I would be comfortable if my teen were getting advice from a former art teacher. Any thoughts?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Here's where Kate mentioned auction:

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@TheAustinMartin I am serious! Benefit auction... To meet k+8 fans! Middle of country! Get working! Find a venue and timeframe and you go...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This was posted last night here.

No Regrets said...

'Maggie said...
Austin lives in Michigan. I looked it up and the legal age to enter into a contract in that state is 18.

If Kate truly wants to meet her twitter fans then SHE should organize a simply meet and greet. '

Not sure if the event will be in Michigan. They all said make it a "central US location" to give everyone a chance. I don't that that was mentioned the exact location

Regardless where it is, you are exactly right. Make it simple. Kate is is much better position to pay than most of these fans. She won't even pay the return postage on her books the fans want to mail to her to autograph. These are her tweetie pies, her besties. LOL She wouldn't pay, but your idea makes even more sense.

It is just disgusting.

Maggie said...

No Tweetle-de Dee. Kate had more posts than what you mentioned a few posts ago. Again, she had many twitter comments about possibly being on The Talk. She was close to saying she was but wouldn't 100% say it. Again, teasing her adoring fans. The posts were removed last night. I don't know if she took them down willingly or someone strongly suggested she should do so. But they are gone now. I was floored when I was reading them around 7/8pm central time. I couldn't believe she was so loose lipped when The Talk had not made an announcement themselves.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Didn't Kate stop doing the Book Signing Tour because not many people were showing up?

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB
Thanks for the tweeets. I am so disgusted with Kate on this thing, I couldn't even look at the tweet feed again. LOL

Between this auction, her discussing the behavior of her kids with a stranger on the internet. dissing her BFF's Ashley and Jaime, letting a fan diss them too, I am so totally disgusted with this fool. She is even WORSE than I ever knew.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Not going to belabor the point and bore everyone to death nor spend any more time proving Kate didn't delete her posts from last night. I'll leave it with this one that I just found:


Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@
@PamatIW Neva say Neva (thanks Justin :)


which was in reply to this:

PamatIW Pam
@
@Kateplusmy8...great attitude to have! Disappointed that you are not going to be on The Talk.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No Regrets said...Between this auction, her discussing the behavior of her kids with a stranger on the internet. dissing her BFF's Ashley and Jaime, letting a fan diss them too, I am so totally disgusted with this fool. She is even WORSE than I ever knew.

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She seems to be in major damage control made promising to autograph books, asking a fan who's in financial trouble how she can help, ordering auctions...pure manic. I still say she's bipolar.

No Regrets said...

One thing I really hate, besides a liar, is someone who plays mind games. This idiot is a master at it.

She cannot seem to even deal honestly with anyone without a little mind manipulation thrown in here and there. The thing is, she is too stupid to really play the game correctly. LOL

Gimme Gimme said...

Talking about displays of abuse in public, I was at the doctor's office with my son and this lady came in with 2 kids about 3 and 4, good sized kids not in diapers, on a leash. Strapped on like a backpack sort of thing and she kept yanking them around by the leash, barking at them, obviously a foster mom because they were of a different race. My son got so upset he wanted to confront the lady, but I suggested we speak to someone in charge and let them handle it. We talked to the administrator and my son said that lady is abusing her kids in public so she is doing it home at too. The administrator went out and while he didn't confront the lady, he took a stance in her eyesight and watched her. When she realized what was going on she started cooing to the kids and took their leashes off and read to them from a book. We had seen the vehicle she got out of as she had been yanking them around in the parking lot as well. My son in full view of her went out and took her tag number. It was very disturbing. She was treating the kids like dogs.

No Regrets said...

I know that sounds contradictory. She is a master but too stupid to really play it out correctly. Hope you get what I mean. I am not the best at communication. LOL

No Regrets said...

"Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
She seems to be in major damage control made promising to autograph books, asking a fan who's in financial trouble how she can help, ordering auctions...pure manic. I still say she's bipolar."

She offered to help someone in financial trouble? Oh my. Didn't see that. That would open up a HUGE can of worms for her. My gawd. She truly IS dumb. You could have a point with the bipolar. It is the weirdest thing I have seen in my life. This woman is raising 8 chldren. And twitter is her only friend it seems. This is so bizarre, I am more worried about those kids than I ever was before.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No Regrets said...I know that sounds contradictory. She is a master but too stupid to really play it out correctly.

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I know exactly what you mean. The frustrating thing is that she does/says all these things publicly and her die-hard fans look the other way. When the benefit, auction, whatever it is doesn't happen, her fans will supply lots of excuses for her, all the excuses she'll need. Shades of Jim Jones. Scary.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if her agent/manager has cut her loose (or been cut loose). Her mouth (fingers?) is running so freely on Twitter now, rambling about her talk show "dreams" (those tweets from last night are not deleted, by the way, just buried about 100 back); committing to this "K+8 fans' 'fundraising' convention" (there's been no mention of the kids in this vein, and I doubt she would even want them there--this is ALL about her); referring autograph-seekers to a Twitter fan who has literally been panting for her attention ever since she came online (this fan is now in essence an unpaid lackey for Kate, which no doubt thrills both of them beyond their wildest imaginings); etc., etc. Shouldn't someone of Kate's exalted "celebrity" status have an actual employee or representative handling these sorts of things for her? And actively dissuading her from indulging in this ridiculous activity upwards of 50 times a day?

I have a feeling this need for constant attention, followed by endless engagement with total strangers, is going to come back to bite her with a vengeance. And I can also see the wheels turning in her tiny brain as she tries to come up with a way to "monetize" these exchanges with fans.

Just FYI, I have followed her exchanges with new Head Sycophant Brownnose fairly closely, and Kate has never agreed to do anything with her, she just throws her a bone here and there, usually by re-tweeting one of her saccharine-laden compliments. Ugh.

Finally, someone tweeted her yesterday about getting tix to see her at Penn State in early November. I searched but couldn't find anything online about a conference or event. What could she have to say to a college audience? Unless she's scheduled to be the subject of an advanced psychology practicum.

Can't ever sign on either, so very truly yours,
Gift of grab

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
No Regrets said...I know that sounds contradictory. She is a master but too stupid to really play it out correctly.

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I know exactly what you mean. The frustrating thing is that she does/says all these things publicly and her die-hard fans look the other way. When the benefit, auction, whatever it is doesn't happen, her fans will supply lots of excuses for her, all the excuses she'll need.
Shades of Jim Jones. Scary.'

Unless he has lots of help, and money, it won' happen. That makes me so angry. The fans are a rude bunch and hateful to us, but they worship this idiot and have put in her pocket, she can't give them a freakn bone?

Oh no don't say JJ. I would hope it never gets that bad. Oh no! I really wish they would stop feeding her with this ridiculous worship. She is buying into every single thing. Her tweets sometime really, seriously worry me. They do sound well manic as you said. Is she cracking up?

No Regrets said...

My typing is starting to really suck, sorry. I guess I need more coffee.

"they put MONEY in her pocket" geez Not formatting posts right either. SORRY

Anonymous said...

Maggie, based on his many tweets, Austin lives in St. Louis, MO, not Michigan.

No Regrets said...

Gimme Gimme said...on a leash"

Thank goodness there are people such as you and your son that dare get involved. Sometimes it takes only one incident like yours to make this person THINK and stop what she is doing.

Just having kids on a leash makes my skin crawl. (apologies to anyone who had to use one for different reasons) Personally I hate those things. Good for you and your son!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No Regrets said...She offered to help someone in financial trouble? Oh my.

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Holly825
@Kateplusmy8 dealing with stress of not being able to afford any back to school clothes or supplies. not a good morning in my home in pa.

Holly825
@Kateplusmy8 I am just lost right now in some situations but I have 3 kids. 2 boys 15 and 6 and a girl who is 4. I need an ear 2 vent 2. :)

Kateplusmy8
@Holly825
how can I help you?

Kateplusmy8
@Holly825
what supplies, what size clothing etc...

No Regrets said...

"Anonymous said..
Gift of grab
I have a feeling this need for constant attention, followed by endless engagement with total strangers, is going to come back to bite her with a vengeance'
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YES this will bite her and hard. SHE HAS NO FILTERS whatsoever. None. I have seriously never seen anyone like her.
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Just FYI, I have followed her exchanges with new Head Sycophant Brownnose fairly closely, and Kate has never agreed to do anything with her, she just throws her a bone here and there, usually by re-tweeting one of her saccharine-laden compliments. Ugh.

I can't find it now, but brownie did ask if she still made speaking appearances, and would she be interested in becoming involved/ appearing at her workshop, Kate answered YES. I have seen something like that before. Was she only saying yes to speaking or her entire post? She never answers her when brownie asks for a DM. LOL

She's such a c word said...

Although I am thrilled Kate is committing Twittercide, I cannot help but think how insanely stupid Twitter is. From people asking for 'Retweets' and 'birthday wishes', to baring their private daily financial/health/family struggles and overall stupidity to the world.
Maybe it's just me...

FL Mama said...

Pardon this post if this question has already been answered but just who will be benefitting from this charity event Austin is planning? Please don't tell me it's for the Gosselins!

She's such a c word said...

FL Mama, if it's a turnout anything like the Tennessee Food Bank viewing party, the beneficiary of the fundraiser should expect about a buck and a half to be raised.

Red Sky At Night said...

mkbrownlow
@Kateplusmy8 Good Morning, friend! Hope your Thursday is as lovely as you are! Sending hugs from our home to yours!


mkbrownlow
@kateplusmy8 Doing a mom and young daughter bonding event in October... would love to have u and big girls if it suits ur schedule!


What in the world is wrong with Kate that she can't see that this person is a leech who wants to hang on? Is Kate that stupid? Brownlow wants her to speak at a bonding event? Good gawd - Kate talking about bonding with teenage daughters is like a vampire giving medical advice on how to apply a tourniquet to stop bleeding.

Kate and bonding with a child shouldn't be used in the same sentence!

I don't see any good coming from this meet and greet. She's going to get her tweeties excited, have them plan the event, and at the last minute she's going to get cold feet -- oops, something came up -- has to go to NYC for a business meeting.

This has disaster written all over it.

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
No Regrets said...She offered to help someone in financial trouble? Oh my.

*********************************

Holly825
@Kateplusmy8 dealing with stress of not being able to afford any back to school clothes or supplies. not a good morning in my home in pa.

Holly825
@Kateplusmy8 I am just lost right now in some situations but I have 3 kids. 2 boys 15 and 6 and a girl who is 4. I need an ear 2 vent 2. :)

Kateplusmy8
@Holly825
how can I help you?

Kateplusmy8
@Holly825
what supplies, what size clothing etc..."
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Wow, thanks for those. Ok THIS I to give her props is she follows through. I wish, though she would have gone private. Not only to keep it private but for HER own protection. She might get bombarded with requests now. Stop broadcasting the charity. But if she does follow through, THAT would be great.

No Regrets said...

She's such a c word said...
FL Mama, if it's a turnout anything like the Tennessee Food Bank viewing party, the beneficiary of the fundraiser should expect about a buck and a half to be raised.""
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THANKS first laugh of my morning. LOL I needed that. And you are probably RIGHT.

(No charity was named that I saw btw)

fidosmommy said...

You know, if Austin could contact Second Harvest
they might be able to help with venue and with
publicity for Kate's Tweeties. That is, if Second Harvest were to be the charity they choose. Seems logical, since Kate was so gung-ho about SH when she was there earlier this year. Or at least she was when the cameras were on.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

FL Mama said...

Pardon this post if this question has already been answered but just who will be benefitting from this charity event Austin is planning? Please don't tell me it's for the Gosselins!

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This is the big question. But believe it or not not one fan has asked it. Unbelievable. Some of these guys have probably fallen for the Nairobi bank scheme. I truly believe that if Kate tweeted that she woke up and her house had been cleaned out by buglers, there are tweeters who would send her their life savings no questions asked.

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB

Did you see Holly's response to Kate?


Holly825Holly Gately
@Kateplusmy8 Collin is 6 and a size 7-8 and Rory is 4 almost 5 and she's a 5-6. I don't know what supplies they need yet. They start the 6th

That's it! No more tweets from Kate or her to Kate. No thanks even from Holly. Strange. LOL So I think it is not going to happen.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

"Buglers" should be burglars, (LOL), but Kate's fans probably wouldn't question that either.

Anonymous said...

No Regrets (GoG here), Kate was only responding to the query about whether or not she still does speaking engagements (hence the all-caps YES). I'm sure that's only if there is a paycheck attached.

Anonymous said...

Administrator said...

Also, a "fundraiser" to raise money for little ole yourself is not going to get past Mr. Tax Man, Kate.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

She didn't suggest a fundraiser for herself.

Kate doesn't rate said...

And so it starts:

ChunkECheese My name
@kateplusmy8 -we are a great place to host ur meet/greet w/ ur fans. Where a kid can be a kid!! Holla Back!

======================

Kate you are SUCH an effing idiot!

No Regrets said...

Anonymous said...
No Regrets (GoG here), Kate was only responding to the query about whether or not she still does speaking engagements (hence the all-caps YES). I'm sure that's only if there is a paycheck attached."

That is what I thought she wss saying yes to, but brownie did take it as a YES all the way around. The last time I heard Kate charged 25K per speaking engagement. I wonder if brownie knows this? Or expects it free, since they are BFF's now? Kate will not even answer her numerous requests for a DM. This is just so pathetic, give her an answer, she won't give up. LOL

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No Regrets...That's it! No more tweets from Kate or her to Kate. No thanks even from Holly. Strange. LOL So I think it is not going to happen.

++++++++++++++++

I agree it's not going to happen. Kate just won't tweet back. Her manic mood will probably pass soon.

No Regrets said...

ChunkECheesE

PERFECT lmao they all can roll around in the balls. hahhha

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB

They both are strange. IF my kids needed clothes and I got an offer like that, I would JUMP on it. But then Kate didn't even acknowledge the clothes sizes. LOL Arrrrrrrghhh These people are NUTS.

No Regrets said...

"She's such a c word said...
Although I am thrilled Kate is committing Twittercide, I cannot help but think how insanely stupid Twitter is. From people asking for 'Retweets' and 'birthday wishes', to baring their private daily financial/health/family struggles and overall stupidity to the world.
Maybe it's just me..."

It is not just you. It is weird to me too. BigFanOfKate just found out last night that everyone could read her tweets. Then she tweeted she was starting her period. LOL !!

I have had an account for about year and have less than 100 tweets. I have tweeted famous people, asking questions, never got a response from anyone, except Star Jones. LOL I stopped, I only read now

Kat said...

Just when I thought I had heard it all, Blocky never dissapoints. What's with all of these empty promises? This woman is in the process of some kind of nervous breakdown. I can't even believe what I'm reading. Hope those white jackets are ready. I wish someone could intervene and put a stop to this nut case. I'm really starting to feel sorry for these worshipers. Where is the parental supervision over these kids? What is she gaining from all of this twittering? What is behind all of this? Is this all she has left? So so sick!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

No Regrets said...

ChunkECheesE

PERFECT lmao they all can roll around in the balls. hahhha
**********************

Quite a comedown from Nobu.

I must drag myself away from this circus and clean up after yesterday's wind!!

No Regrets said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB

Very true. I have to go too, (repeat) I don't have 8 kids, so I can't stay online all day. :)

Take care all, and Tweet-le

Strangers In The Night said...

This Austin person is an 18-year-old who just started his first year of college. Kate THINK! He doesn't have time to organize an event such as this. He should be devoting all of his time to studying, adapting to a new routine, making new friends, NOT planning a bogus meet and greet for strangers on the internet.

"I agree it's not going to happen. Kate just won't tweet back. Her manic mood will probably pass soon."

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Or she will sober up - and not a minute too soon!

Kate doesn't rate said...

O.M.G. Look at the can(s) of worms Kate has opened up.

BarbGilmer
@kateplusmy8 every1 has been tweeting me wanting ur address.wont give out unless u say..let me know plz..ty:)
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Paige_Kate8fan
@Kateplusmy8 I'm going to get my papers for a passport today! I better have a passport b4 our meetup!!

No Regrets said...

"Kat said... What is she gaining from all of this twittering? What is behind all of this? Is this all she has left? So so sick!"

The other night before her show began, she practically begged the tweeties to live tweet with her saying "I NEED your SUPPORT". I thought about that. This is the last 4 episodes of a 6 year run of her show. This is significant to Kate. This is something that I would want to share with my hubby/BF or BFF's someone, right?

All she has are her tweet people do share this with. This is incredibly sad. It is her own fault, I can't have sympathy for her for this reason. But what a sad lonely life this woman has.

have a wonderful day!!!

Anonymous said...

And here's the poor fan (lackey)--less than 18 hours later--who is taking the brunt of Kate's magnanimity:

@kateplusmy8 every1 has been tweeting me wanting ur address.wont give out unless u say..let me know plz..ty:)

Is Kate really this stupid, or does she just enjoy making messes for others to clean up? It's so inconsiderate.

As for the woman who can't afford school supplies, given that anyone can represent themselves on Twitter in whatever way (and in however many multiples) they like, I don't take any comments I read there without a huge grain of salt. This could simply be a set-up for Kate's "image"--i.e., she has arranged with someone to deliberately tweet her scenarios that allow her to play Lady Bountiful, or she's setting them up herself (though I don't see her being technically savvy enough to do this well or long). I agree with those who find Twitter ridiculous and am myself merely a spectator at the freak show.

Gift of grab

LancNative said...

She didn't suggest a fundraiser for herself.

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How about sponsoring a fund raiser for the school? You know, that place where her children go for caring, nurturing, friendships, socializing, learning - something that they don't get at home? She doesn't participate in the annual fund-raising events, book sales, bake sales, school projects for the community such as food drives and volunteering at homeless shelters/food kitchen. Join the hard-working, dedicated parents who put in hours and hours organizing and carrying out such activities.

The school depends on parental involvement in fund-raising events for the benefit of the school and local community. So far, her participation has been zero. This would be a great place to start.

But why get worked up over an event that's never going to happen? She's all talk, and her tweeties are going to be in for a major disappointment.

Wait until they find out how much they would have to pay her crack security team!! Steve doesn't work cheap!

Tamara said...

Unless she's scheduled to be the subject of an advanced psychology practicum.

Can't ever sign on either, so very truly yours,
Gift of grab
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Thank you for that laugh! :)

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