More of the judge's wise comments:
"Based on the limited information available - and in large part because of Mother's and her counsel's repeated failure to provide further information to Father, the guardian ad litem, and the Court - the Court concluded that involvement of the children in filming is not in their best interests....Though several of the children indicate they enjoy filming, one does not and is experiencing physiological symptoms apparently brought on by the general stress of the custodial disputes, and another is in a facility undergoing treatment for mental and emotional issues tied in part to the filming and fame. It is reasonable to be concerned that one or more of the children who currently claim to enjoy filming may at some point suffer negative consequences they cannot foresee now as young teenagers.
"As the guardian points out, even those children who do not participate in the filming may be negatively affected by the show continuing without them. Indeed, the statements of several of the children to the effect that they need filming to survive, that it is their normal way of life, and that it feels weird not to film, although apparently intended to make filming seem innocuous or positive, raise concerns in the Court's mind as to whether continued filming is healthy for these children. Having a staged second birthday is hardly the normal activity that would occur absent filming....Taken altogether, the Court was faced with limited information, failures by Mother and her counsel to provide more information, real concerns about the mental and emotional effects of filming, and no way to determine whether those concerns are offset by the financial 'benefits of filming. The Court, therefore, concluded filming was not in the children's best interests.
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and trying to stand up to her crazy bother.
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I hope that was a typo Admin and you meant “crazy mother”.
https://twitter.com/hollylynch5/status/1189175248035483648?s=12
Wow several members of parliament wrote a letter in support of Meghan. I hope it gives her some comfort.
Twice they emphasized the nasty press were attacking her for no reason. And that’s the difference between this and Kate Gosselin. Her negative press was over very good reason.
I really hope that college and living away from home gives Mady some perspective on life. Hard work and a good attitude is what will help her get ahead in life. She is already saddled with the past name Gosselin, which to many has negative connotations, and she is known for having a nasty attitude. People aren't going to cut her any breaks. I'm thinking about the empire the Kardashians have built, and while I'm certainly not a fan, I acknowledge the fact that they are all reported to have incredible work ethics. And I have never heard anyone complain about any of them being difficult to work with or being nasty (except maybe for Kris). That has taken them a long, long way in life. Kate had all the opportunities the Ks have had--clothing lines, makeup line, spin-off shows, etc. There is nothing they have done that she couldn't have accomplished with some hard work and a positive attitude. But she was too lazy and too nasty. She expected the work to be done for her, and she expected the finished products to be dropped in her lap. That didn't happen, and someone else swooped in and capitalized on those same opportunities. She has nobody to blame but herself. I hope Mady doesn't make those same mistakes. There is so much she could accomplish, and she could still turn her last name--which now is a liability--into an asset. We'll see what she ends up doing.
Twice they emphasized the nasty press were attacking her for no reason. And that’s the difference between this and Kate Gosselin. Her negative press was over very good reason.
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Not really. The difference is which side you happen to fall on. There are many who think Meghan Markle is being bashed for "good reason." I would venture to guess that her "haters" would label you a "sheeple." (I don't follow the story closely enough to have any strong opinion on Meghan but would guess that the negative press is way over the top.)
The difference is which side you happen to fall on. There are many who think Meghan Markle is being bashed for "good reason
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And what are those reasons exactly? Please be specific. What reasons warrant this because I sure as heck can’t figure it out and no one will say including you. But I bet whatever they are they don’t even come close to the level of child abuser and child exploiter, so there’s that.
It appears one of the MPs received a phone call from Meghan thanking her for the letter of support. Some might see this as an American member of the royal family becoming involved in politics (which is a no-no for the royal family) especially with a national election coming up in December.
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And what are those reasons exactly? Please be specific. What reasons warrant this because I sure as heck can’t figure it out and no one will say including you. But I bet whatever they are they don’t even come close to the level of child abuser and child exploiter, so there’s that.
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Reasons why the press have gone after MM:
1) Lecturing about climate change and then taking private jets multiple times over the course of a few weeks.
2) Clearing out a section at Wimbledon so she could watch a tennis match. And then not stay and support players of her adopted country.
3) Flying to NY to spend the weekend and watch yet another tennis match but has to leave a charity event to get home because "its feed time"
4)Not observing royal protocol which has the senior royal being greeted/going in first. Prince Philip has walked behind the Queen for 70 years but MM pushes ahead of Prince Harry.
5) Praising her father and all he has done for her including paying for her college education and then lying about it and claiming she worked her way through school and used student loans.
Those are the ones I noticed. The hypocrisy and somewhat sketchy character she has portrayed. While I agree mistakes will be made, most of the negativity seems to be from commentors on the websites and not the reporters themselves.
Just my opinion as I find that dynamic fascinating.
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Reasons why the press have gone after MM:
1) Lecturing about climate change and then taking private jets multiple times over the course of a few weeks.
BUT THE ENTIRE RF, INCLUDING CHARLES AND WILL, DO PRECISELY THIS AND HAVE BEEN DOING SO FOR DECADES. WHY IS IT DIFFERENT FOR MEGHAN? OR HARRY, SINCE, PRESUMABLY, HARRY WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE INVOLVED IN DECIDING HOW THEY TRAVELED. WOULD YOU TURN DOWN A PRIVATE JET PROVIDED BY ELTON JOHN?
2) Clearing out a section at Wimbledon so she could watch a tennis match. And then not stay and support players of her adopted country.
WAS THIS DONE AT MEGHAN'S INSISTENCE OR WAS IT THE CHOICE OF HER SECURITY DETAIL? I HARDLY THINK SHE WOULD HAVE INSISTED THIS BE DONE ON HER BEHALF.
3) Flying to NY to spend the weekend and watch yet another tennis match but has to leave a charity event to get home because "its feed time"
YEAH, I GUESS YOU COULD PICK ON THIS ONE. BUT I BET HARRY WAS ENCOURAGING HER TO GO AND SUPPORT HER FRIEND.
4)Not observing royal protocol which has the senior royal being greeted/going in first. Prince Philip has walked behind the Queen for 70 years but MM pushes ahead of Prince Harry.
EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN THESE TWO OUT TOGETHER, IT ALWAYS APPEARS HARRY IS MOST COMFORTABLE URGING HER AHEAD SO HE CAN HAVE HIS HAND ON HER BACK. AGAIN, WOULDN'T THIS BE SOMETHING BETWEEN THE HUSBAND AND WIFE? IF HARRY PREFERS THIS, WHY WOULD ANYONE ELSE FIND FAULT?
5) Praising her father and all he has done for her including paying for her college education and then lying about it and claiming she worked her way through school and used student loans.
WE DON'T KNOW---AND WILL LIKELY NEVER KNOW---WHETHER OR HOW MUCH TOM MARKLE PAID. HE MIGHT HAVE ONLY COVERED TUITION AND SHE RELIED ON LOANS/JOBS TO COVER HER LIVING AND OTHER EXPENSES. U OF CHICAGO IS VERY EXPENSIVE, SO I'M INCLINED TO BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY NUMBER OF COSTS HE DIDN'T COVER.
Don't get me wrong, I think the hypocrisy involved in "do as we say, not as we do" is a serious problem, but that is true of the entire RF and always has been. It didn't start with Meghan and certainly won't end with her. Even with your points above, which I don't find particularly egregious, you make it sound like she's sort of making these faux pas (if that's what they are) almost to spite her new family and country, or to establish herself as some kind of diva who not only doesn't know/understand "her place," but is actively seeking attention, positive or not. And I just don't see that.
Besides the speculation that a lot of what's been directed at Meghan since she returned from her maternity leave is not really about her at all but is intended to damp down the ongoing revelations of Andrew's very close involvement with Epstein, there is also an abundance of rumors that Willy hasn't been keeping it in his pants, and the constant sniping at Meghan is helping him to keep some shine on his image. I have NO idea about William, but it doesn't stretch credulity to think that the "courtiers" might develop and execute this sort of strategy. Can't be upsetting the Queen with daily tabloid reports on the predations of her favorite son. Or the future king.
It was also noted that Harry and Meghan didn't accept The Queen's traditional invitation to spend time with her and Prince Philip at their summer retreat at Balmoral castle in Scotland. It was reported that Meghan said Archie was too young to go to Scotland. He was old enough though to travel to Spain and France, on two separate occasions, to visit celebrity friends of the couple, resulting in four private plane trips. It has been said that, when The Queen issues and invitation to members of her family, it is almost like a command to which they always comply.
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It was also noted that Harry and Meghan didn't accept The Queen's traditional invitation to spend time with her and Prince Philip at their summer retreat at Balmoral castle in Scotland. It was reported that Meghan said Archie was too young to go to Scotland. He was old enough though to travel to Spain and France, on two separate occasions, to visit celebrity friends of the couple, resulting in four private plane trips. It has been said that, when The Queen issues and invitation to members of her family, it is almost like a command to which they always comply.
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I don’t consider that even close to a good enough reason to terrorize a couple and their baby in the press. It’s none of anyone’s business where someone wants to spend their summer. But even having said that, it’s unclear if this story is even true, which is half the problem of the Harry and Meghan hate. They in fact may have gone to Scotland this year after all, it was reported Meghan even had a birthday celebration there. It makes one wonder who is trying to shit stir with false stories about them thumbing their noses at the Queen. If they didn’t go, it was noted they live in Windsor and see the Queen all the time because she is often in Windsor, seeing her far more than many other royal family members. For all we know the Queen said you are most welcome there but I understand you’re busy this month and about to go to Africa and we see each other all the time. It would make sense if they did go they kept it quiet, as their trip to Scotland at the same time in 2018 was also one they tried to keep quite quiet.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/celebrity-travel/meghan-markle-prince-harry-use-scottish-titles-during-first-visit-to-scotland%3famp=true
Sad But True-
I don't know if MM is doing these things to spite her in-laws or not. But I do find aspects of her marriage to Prince Harry fascinating and those were just some things I noticed and the press have noticed also.
We will never find out what stories she is planting for positive PR and which are actually true.
I was a fan of hers and the show Suits but the more I have observed just has me feeling something is 'off' (if that makes sense!)
I am by no means an expert and don't claim to have any insider information but I have followed both sides of their media coverage and some things just don't sit well with me about their dynamic.
On the flip side, the MPs who signed the letter in her support haven't yet given examples of what they are referring to. Is it the comments on articles or the articles themselves? If so, which ones do they find fault with?
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We're in the same boat, then, since I don't really know what to believe either, LOL. What I do know is, every time a story about Meghan comes out, there is an avalanche of online comments, no matter how uncontroversial the particulars of the story, attacking her as an upstart "actress" (which, in the not-too-distant past, was a euphemism for whore in GB) whose every move is designed to up-end not only her new family but the monarchy itself! And there is no denying a strong vein of racism running through many of the comments.
Weigh these criticisms against some of the (apparently) positive things she's done in 18 short months: the cookbook with the Grenfell community organizers was, I think, a smash hit. And it was done quietly, there was not a lot of advance hype before the reveal. The trip last fall to AU, NZ, and other locations was by all accounts welcomed and praised by their hosts. And isn't how the hosts felt about the visit the point?
I don't for a moment think that Meghan has taken it into her head to deliberately upstage or in any way eclipse Kate and William. She just has a different (yes, American) style of doing things, where instead of asking why, she asks why not. I can see how that might upset the apple cart that is the bureaucracy that runs the RF and all of its protocol/ palaces/businesses/interests. But at not quite 18 months in, and with more than half that time going to pregnancy and new motherhood, what, exactly, were people expecting?
Again, when looking at all these stories and opinions, I always go back to: Meghan is not making her choices in a vacuum---by all accounts, she and Harry have a very balanced relationship. If it looks sometimes like she's leading, maybe it's because she has more experience in the question at hand than Harry. On the flip side, Harry has spent his entire life in the very bowels of royal protocol, and if he truly felt she wasn't cutting it, I am sure he would intervene. I get the sense he LIKES being able to view what has up until now been his received life through the lens of an outsider. And giving the benefit of the doubt---as in, he's well-and-truly an adult and seems of sound mind---I don't see him with a nose-ring being led about by his wife.
I think there's been a lot less story "planting" than people have assumed. I'm not saying there's none, but really, how much time and effort has she had to devote to this sort of campaign given her responsibilities over the last two years (I think it's almost exactly that much time since the official engagement was announced)? I don't believe there are enough hours in the day. . . .
Thanks for the civil discussion. Having watched Diana wed Charles, and all that came after, I find myself unwilling to make any judgment about Meghan on the strength of her 18-month "reign" as a duchess. My hope is that she and Harry find happiness as a couple, as a family, and that their collaborative attempts to do good will not be a source of discord in their families or in their lives.
Only difference to Kate is the criticism has its roots in child exploitation and abuse and the roots of Meghan’s criticism is racism. Big difference.
I think their jet thing was a very poor move, arguably hypocritical even if It was carbon offset and paid for by Elton John and I find their yammering ignorantly about global warming terribly irritating. But Prince Charles was blathering on about global warming even before it was cool and nobody complained. Double standard.
On a side note, I’ve always found Elton Johns interest in the boys a bit odd even if he loved their mother. He’s got a heck of a lot of interest in make royal members and not so much anyone else. Never in a million years would I leave archie alone with the guy.
I also find the Meghan story as it unfolds rather Intetesting even if plenty don’t care.
The Meghan saga has actually opened my eyes to how much some brits hate Americans to this day. It’s like in their genes to still be pissed about a Revolution 250 years ago. It is fair to say many Brits adore Meghan and Harry so it’s not everyone. They are extremely closed minded to American ways.
A new article.
https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2019/10/30/exclusive-jon-gosselin-gives-update-on-son-collins-life-not-talking-to-mom-or-siblings-active-in-school-activities-more/
Sad to know Collin is still not talking to the rest of his siblings but wonderful to know he is thriving in school. So glad he is participating in things like Jr ROTC. He finally gets to be the young man he is and not the dirty, second class citizen Kate has made her sons out to be. I know the school Hannah and Collin attend has basically every extra curricular activity a teenager could want. I feel sad for the other kids. Their small, exclusive private school, limits their circle of friends, opportunities to meet people and the chance to try different activities they might enjoy...which is exactly why Kate sends them there. I do hope the kids can reconnect, but I'm sure Kate has drilled it into their heads that Collin and Hannah have ruined their life of luxury by refusing to film. That is just not an issue any 15 year old should ever have to think about, but that is the main reason their family is shattered. A stupid reality show their mother couldn't let go of destroyed their relationships. I hope one day that sinks in to all of them and Kate is rewarded accordingly.
Another article said he was...who knows but I hope it happens if it has not yet. He did refer to Colleen's son as his 'bro' on his IG so he feels family love anyway but I'm sure he misses his G siblings
Happy Halloween, everyone- pouring rain here :(
From Dmasy --
Happy Halloween everyone. Enjoy your costumed visitors. We will have a record-breaking cold evening with temps near in the very low 40's.
I don't think Hannah is going over there right now. According to Jon it's volatile right now because they have another court date soon. I blame Kate for this situation. It's sad that the kids are stuck in the middle of it. But, I support Jon's efforts to keep the kids off TV.
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-probably-wont-see-hannah-and-collin-over-holidays/
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Thanks, Andrea...that's terrible that Leah is 'on Kate's side' and doesn't see her old BFF sis Hannah...Leah seemed a lot like Mady now in the college episode
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Oh, I bet things are volatile at Kate's house right now! She's had Jon's cajones in a vise for the last decade, with TLC fighting her battles for her and the judge always on her side. Now the judge has told her no, Jon can speak out with impunity, and TLC buckled and pulled the last episode instead of joining her in her defiance. I think it's fair to say that there are no further plans to flaunt the court's ruling and film the kids (event though she'd be perfectly happy to do that). I'd hate to be one of her kids right now. But--it sounds like Leah comes over to Jon's to spend time with Hannah--that's a good thing. I wonder if that's why she said she and Alexis don't speak. Alexis is probably firmly behind Kate, and Leah's willingness to tolerate Jon would be seen as betrayal to Kate and the remaining kids.
It's Halloween! My yard is covered in lots of tacky decorations, I've baked my special chocolate cake tombstones, and we're prepping for our traditional scary-movies-and-s'mores-in-the-driveway night. It's rainy today, so we got out all the packable sun canopies we've accrued over the years and set them up in the driveway. As always, you're all invited! I posted directions to my house last year (and apparently did a good job of it, because someone here was able to tell me the color of my house!). Bring along foldable chairs--we don't have a lot of extras. This will be Sully's first Halloween, so it's a special one.
It's a shame Collin has been shut off from his siblings. He didn't even have social media. On the one hand, he could read stuff about his family. On the other hand, he was cut off from the world.
Looks like Jon's FB page was hacked. Here is the link to his new one. Sorry, don't know how to make it clickable.
https://www.facebook.com/therealjongosselin/
Or you can type @therealjongoselin in the FB search bar.
@therealjongosselin
40 followers
Since my last page was Hacked here is my new page, lets start again!!! haha
Layla (#23), please tell us what Sully wore for his 1st Halloween!
Welp, the College Bound episode has been stiffened from my on demand now too, and before I could get a chance to recap it. It's officially a lost episode. I'll keep looking for a bootleg copy to turn up on youtube, but I'm bummed I didn't get around to recapping it before TLC's lawyers got spooked and acted like the episode never happened.
Too bad I can’t share. I don’t know why I did it but I spent the $2.99 when it was available on iTunes. I just checked and it’s still in my library.
I saved it with Realplay too. Works in WIndows media too for me any how.
Not sure how I could get it to you unless you are able to see my email when you get posts and send me yours? (not sure if that is how blogger works)
Ingrid, could you email me at realitytvkids.com? I think you may be able to share a file uploaded to google drive maybe? Thanks for those trying to sort this out for me. I mostly find it hilarious TLC is actually trying to pretend they never aired this illegal episode. The law doesn't work that way.
admin@realitytvkids.com that is!
Too big for my email. Looking into some other way. Will look at Google drive.
Watch your email. I did it through google drive. Not sure if it will tell me if it doesn't go through to you. It was 284MB I believe.
Jon said this: “Maybe I shouldn’t say anything or post anything anymore. Let them live their lives. I know they’re happy.”
My god. Ya think?? He also said things are "volatile" with Kate. Is it not standard family law advice to tell warring parents to NOT comment in public about the other parent or situation?
How is that going to help him? He KNOWS very well that Kate is a spiteful bitch who lives for revenge - so why he thought it would be a good idea to poke the bear is a mystery. Come on Jon, you're supposed to be the 'stable, reasonable parent'.
And for the love of god, please stop telling the world what Collin is involved in at school. Can ANYONE give the poor boy his privacy??
So frustrating. we do not need to know any of this, Jon.
Yes, it's "positive" news about Collin. No, it probably won't kill him. But the kid needs to know he can count on at least ONE parent to respect his privacy.
I know Jon is at hero status here. I'm quite sure no one will agree with me. But it has to be said.
Shut up, Jon. You're doing a great job, don't shoot yourself in the foot.
That worked Ingrid thank you! I knew I had it when I saw that stupid sprinter rolling through. Blech.
Sent thru google drive. Seems to have worked. I tested it to one of my emails too and it is working.
YAY!!!
@34... you’re overreacting... he’s proud of his son right now and wants to share it...can everyone leave this freaking guy alone.. he can’t say a word without criticism... people post info all the time about their kids... let the guy enjoy and stop making it out to be more than it is... he’s happy with his kids. Period... he’s not hurting anyone... and who gives a shit what Kate thinks..who died and left her boss
@34... you’re overreacting... he’s proud of his son right now and wants to share it...can everyone leave this freaking guy alone.. he can’t say a word without criticism... people post info all the time about their kids... let the guy enjoy and stop making it out to be more than it is... he’s happy with his kids. Period... he’s not hurting anyone... and who gives a shit what Kate thinks..who died and left her boss
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I tend to agree with this. There was nothing particularly offensive about what Jon said. He is not a saint, he is a normal father proud of his son for being able to be in school now and partake in normal activities. He hasn't seen him in years, and where he is now is all because of Jon's persistence.
At this point I don't care what he wants to say about who sees what when. The kids are 15 years old, they're not little kids. This is a very different game than our complaints about what was going on when they were seven.
If it wasn’t for Jon he would still be locked up like an animal...let him gush he deserves it...if he has to live his life worrying about poking Kate then she’s “got him”...at this point does it really matter? Collin seems excited to be out there in the world... enjoy!!
If it wasn’t for Jon he would still be locked up like an animal...let him gush he deserves it...if he has to live his life worrying about poking Kate then she’s “got him”...at this point does it really matter? Collin seems excited to be out there in the world... enjoy!!
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That's right. I also think it's not necessarily a correct assumption that it I s best for Collin to keep him quiet and locked away from the prying eyes of the press. I'm betting he's a fragile kid who needs a lot of validation right now, and refusing to discuss him in the press could actually backfire. Many kids loved to be gushed over and for Jon to tell the press he's not discussing him could leave a kid like him confused and wondering if he is someone to be ashamed of. This is a delicate situation Jon has proven to be able to handle just fine and I think most of us here are comfortable with his judgement when it comes to Collin.
Ingrid (#36), a virtual rumspringa to you for getting that episode to Admin. I can't wait for the recap!
I got lucky. I took a chance and tried Realplayer on the youtube video. Lots of networks have blocks that don't allow me to copy anything through their site. Big thanks to the one who put it on Youtube!
I also agree admin. He needs a lot of validating right now...you can’t hide the kid.. then he’ll feel there’s a problem...I think Jon’s hitting the right balance...the goal with any child is to make them feel secure and wanted... something Kate is incapable of doing..this boy needs his confidence back..so go for it!
It only benefits Collin to have Jon talk about him to the public. Kate has given so many different stories...anger issues, learning disabilities and autism. She just allowed people to pick one and let them make up their own stories. If I were Jon, and Collin was my child, you better believe I would let the world know Kate is a liar. Being his parent , he is obligated to set the record straight. Why should Collin have to be judged based on the things his mother said to justify her abuse of him? Kate has been allowed to control the narrative for way too long. I wouldn't only "poke" the bear, I would hit it in the head with a baseball bat if it meant setting the record straight regarding my child.
I also agree admin. He needs a lot of validating right now...you can’t hide the kid.. then he’ll feel there’s a problem...I think Jon’s hitting the right balance...the goal with any child is to make them feel secure and wanted... something Kate is incapable of doing..this boy needs his confidence back..so go for it!
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Bingo.
All his stuff already IS in the public. The cat's out of the bag. It would be one thing if we never knew anything about Collin's problems and Jon suddenly started talking about it, but Kate, KATE, decided to start talking about his struggles years and years ago because she realized she would have to explain the sudden disappearance (we know now banishment) of a 12 year old boy somehow.
It is misguided to assume that ANY publicity is bad publicity in this unique situation. Collin is liking the public validation, as evidence by all the fun he is having on instagram interacting with the public. The interactions are positive. It's very likely he loves to hear his dad toot his horn in the press, maybe it gives him a boost. It's Jon's decision what's right here, he's the one raising the child, working with his school and services. Unlike Kate, he has proven himself capable of making the appropriate choices for him and I think he's earned that trust.
2) Children all over the world manage to feel secure and validated without having their father speak to the tabloids about them. Collin's validation should come from real world interactions, not from tabloid stories.
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Children all over the world weren’t humiliated in the press and on tv by their mother for ten years before their father finally offered some positive things to say about you in the media. This simply isn’t a situation that can be fairly compared to a any old regular child. It’s just not.
Children all over the world weren’t humiliated in the press and on tv by their mother for ten years before their father finally offered some positive things to say about you in the media. This simply isn’t a situation that can be fairly compared to a any old regular child. It’s just not.
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Kate actually said very little about what was going on with Collin, beyond saying he had special needs (yes, I realize Jon disputed that) and a fluid diagnosis. It is simply not true that she yammered on about him for 10 years. And for the record, I am not defending her. There have been scenes of her interaction with the child that made me cringe and I am glad that he is now with is dad as she clearly wasn't equipped to parent him effectively. That doesn't make Jon a saint who can do no wrong.
99% of the world either never heard of Collin Gosselin or hasn't thought about him in years. I will never agree that his source of validation should be tabloid press. I believe that Jon's primary motivation for giving these interviews is his hatred for Kate. I could be completely wrong, but the only person who actually knows the motivation is Jon, not you or any of your posters.
@at admin. Amen sista!!!! You explained it better than I could
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 47
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Children all over the world weren’t humiliated in the press and on tv by their mother for ten years before their father finally offered some positive things to say about you in the media....
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This is so true. For three long years, Collin was being "fluidly diagnosed," he was "chugging along," he was "plodding." And clearly, in the last few episodes he appeared in, he was quite obviously drugged.
After watching this child from the age of 2 until 11 on TV, when he disappeared, the narrative suddenly became "he's got issues." Well, sorry, the only issues I ever witnessed (granted, I have a very limited tolerance for Kate so only ever watched snippets) were more or less centered around HIS MOTHER. Whatever was wrong with this kid was NEVER apparent to his captive audience. What was wrong with his mother, however, was always on full display.
I don't think social media should be the center of any teenager's life, and I hope, given Collin's late entry into this arena, that he's not giving it too much weight. But I do think that whatever positive reinforcement he is getting from his dad, in the wake of what his mother implied to the media after his commitment, won't hurt him. He will spend the rest of his life trying to shed the disingenuous "blanket" Mommy Dearest threw over his "issues."
Because he is known it helps for him to know people are rooting for him...and I’m sure he’s getting it in real life too... Kate made that kid a pariah... I hope people can throw him more love than he can handle
And it's Kate's decision what's right for the six children she is raising/raised, but that sure as hell never stopped you from criticizing her. Why can't those who think Jon is wrong about this do the same?
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As I explained in my comment you are too upset and impatient to fully read, Jon has earned the benefit of the doubt with this boy. Kate has not. It’s as simple as that. Your downplaying of Kate’s treatment of him is disturbing at best.
Wtf Kate put this kid away like it was nothing... typical narc behavior... no feelings...because of Jon Collin has his life back.. that’s what a normal caring parent does.. not lock him away from his family and society.. that’s so fucked up... what don’t you get about that??? If you’re not understanding that then you have an issue
You've really got your work cut out for you when you defend a mother about the "six children she is raising" when said mother actually has EIGHT children.
Kate Gosselin received a paycheck for a book in which she told her little boy that he was "hard to love." Any comfort, joy, pleasure, support, kindness or compassion his father can supply him -- be it public or private -- is something I consider difficult to find fault with.
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Sully was dressed as the world's cutest baby shark for Halloween! It's the same costume his daddy wore for his first Halloween--I saved it for 28 years, and I'm so glad I did! Sully is 3 weeks old now, and he's alert and curious and fascinated by everything around him. The party was such fun, in spite of the rain. We watched the Disney cartoon version of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, made s'mores, and had a dance-off in the garage to Halloween-type songs (including Thriller and Monster Mash). A lot of neighbors and friends showed up (and even a couple secret service agents....all part of life in the DC suburbs). Such fun!
I want to weigh in and say I'm happy that Jon is letting people know that Collin is just fine. Kate allowed people to make up such horrid stories about him--including claims that he was hurting other people. She never defended him, even when those claims were being made on her own social media. Thank goodness someone is setting the record straight.
Layla (#50), sounds like an adorable costume for Sully! And how special for you, and your son, that he was wearing his dad's old costume.
TFW had a lot invested in her "troubled child" narrative. That tale of woe helped her get him out of her house -- which his work helped PAY for -- for 3 1/2 years and counting. And, bonus, she got attention and sympathy (and another People photo shoot) for having to deal with the situation.
You've really got your work cut out for you when you defend a mother about the "six children she is raising" when said mother actually has EIGHT children.
Kate Gosselin received a paycheck for a book in which she told her little boy that he was "hard to love." Any comfort, joy, pleasure, support, kindness or compassion his father can supply him -- be it public or private -- is something I consider difficult to find fault with.
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I always found it interesting that Kate got defended until the death about exploiting her kids from the time they were toddlers until now. But years later, when the kids are much older and certainly much better equipped to handle being in the public eye, and Jon breathes a couple sentences about how proud he is that his kid is in some kind of high school cadet program and what a disappointment it is there are issues with sibling visits, and there's hell to pay. Fascinating.
99% of the world either never heard of Collin Gosselin or hasn't thought about him in years. I will never agree that his source of validation should be tabloid press. I believe that Jon's primary motivation for giving these interviews is his hatred for Kate. I could be completely wrong, but the only person who actually knows the motivation is Jon, not you or any of your posters.
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If only Jon knows the motivations why are you even bothering to speculate what's going on here? Who cares and why bring it up if you believe we can't know?
Also, some of us are friends with Jon, talk to him regularly, and friends with locals and get information from more places than his few public statements. I knew Collin was incarcerated almost since the moment he began because a local shared their concern with me. Don't assume our only source of information is a few comments to the press.
I couldn't disagree more. Collin is old enough to understand why his father would opt not to discuss him in the press. You seem to forget that these people live real, everyday lives outside of the glare of the spotlight. There are plenty of opportunities to gush about Collin to family and friends and make him feel validated that don't entail tabloid interviews. Stop making excuses for Jon's poor decisions.
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You're assuming it's a poor decision when that's your opinion and not fact, an opinion you hold with limited information, certainly a lot less information than I hold.
I was under the impression a bunch of press were at the Vegas event and somebody familiar with his saga snagged him and asked some good questions of him and wrote it up. Jon wasn't exactly gelling up his hair having the studio lights set up in his living room and giving his big tell all. It was a casual chat with a reporter who decided to turn it into a story. Much ado about nothing.
I couldn't disagree more. Collin is old enough to understand why his father would opt not to discuss him in the press. You seem to forget that these people live real, everyday lives outside of the glare of the spotlight. There are plenty of opportunities to gush about Collin to family and friends and make him feel validated that don't entail tabloid interviews. Stop making excuses for Jon's poor decisions.
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You're assuming it's a poor decision when that's your opinion and not fact, an opinion you hold with limited information, certainly a lot less information than I hold.
I was under the impression a bunch of press were at the Vegas event and somebody familiar with his saga snagged him and asked some good questions of him and wrote it up. Jon wasn't exactly gelling up his hair having the studio lights set up in his living room and giving his big tell all. It was a casual chat with a reporter who decided to turn it into a story. Much ado about nothing.
So because you don't care others aren't allowed to care? You are trying desperately to defend against your obvious hypocrisy.
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They hypocrisy is for ten entire years we have been going on and on on this blog about the tragedy of Collin Gosselin, starting with his impacted bowels and culminating in his forced incarceration. And nobody, least of all you his mother, gave two shits. No pun intended.
Now when they're older and it's FAR, FAR less harmful and potentially even quite helpful to tell his story, the sheeple are upset.
Do I find any of this sincere? Not really. And you're likely not going to convince me otherwise any of your alleged caring is real.
You're upset because in the end the nice guy finally didn't finish last. Kate lost in the end. That's what's really pissing you off. You could care two shits what's best for Collin Gosselin, a child you never cared about for ten years.
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This is the stuff that the press gives no attention too, Meghan spending her day supporting and empowering exploited women. Like Meghan said, she thought at least the press would be fair, and refusing to cover stories like this while hyper focusing on all the conflict really isn't fair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRVrvKzOMdQ
And here's Harry doing a 27 minute podcast the other day talking about his mental health campaign.
Doesn't get covered.
This is the stuff that the press gives no attention too, Meghan spending her day supporting and empowering exploited women. Like Meghan said, she thought at least the press would be fair, and refusing to cover stories like this while hyper focusing on all the conflict really isn't fair.
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This was billed as a private event and she brought her own reporter to write up the story and take pictures/ video. It was covered in the press in the UK but maybe not here in the US. Private events are not typically reported on.
Also, if I were the press and felt unfairly accused of things and sued by MM and Harry, I may not be keen to report on them either. It was a risk they took when pursuing legal action. Almost like fine, if you don't like the way we report on your events then we won't report anything at all.
It really has fascinated me reading and watching both sides of the MM debate!
Also, if I were the press and felt unfairly accused of things and sued by MM and Harry, I may not be keen to report on them either. It was a risk they took when pursuing legal action. Almost like fine, if you don't like the way we report on your events then we won't report anything at all.
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They never reported these things. Meghan took her own photographer so she could post the pics and videos on Instagram and bring attention to the cause. Also I’m sure the press understands that most of them have been respectful in their reporting and it’s really only a couple uk publications that are the problem, but they are a big problem.
Another thing the press doesn’t pick up on is in Harry’s podcast he made it clear his mental health issues were solely about his mother, and that it was William who insisted be get help and William who saved him. Not Meghan, not anyone else. What the press reports instead is that Harry and William are feuding.
I guess for me, the whole MM situation boils down to this: being a member of the Royal Family is a job and you work for the reigning Monarch. Yes, you give up certain aspects of your life or maybe things you'd like to remain private in exchange for all the perks (which is why many people and former girlfriends have declined to join!). Don't like it or find it too hard? Then leave. Neither she nor Harry are constitutionally important to the throne now that William has kids of his own. If you recall, paparazzi completely invaded Kate Middleton's privacy while she was on vacation and took topless photos of her. Then she had to go out the next day and do the visits and complete her overseas tour. I'm sure she wanted to hide away but that's the job. There is nothing wrong with taking a step back and indeed they are. Perhaps they will decide to take on a reduced role in the future to help with the stress.
I also feel that she perhaps wasn't given enough behind the scenes training or insight the way Kate had. MM lived overseas the majority of the time they dated, isn't British so probably didn't know/understand the system and they didn't date for nearly as long as Kate and William.
A lot of things have factored into this current situation and I do have empathy (to an extent) for MM. But along the way, I can see some issues that seem a little "off" regarding her personality (much like people on this blog noticed before the press/reports said about Katie Irene).
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I think the reason the Sheeple get so upset when Jon speaks out is because it contradicts Kate's narrative. Hearing about how well Collin is doing and seeing pictures of him looking happy and healthy flies directly in the face of Kate's claims that he has such severe issues that he needs to be locked away. The sheeple took her narrative and embellished it, even claiming that C was dangerous and violent. How can they reconcile that with a normal, happy kid who is doing well in school, bonding with his family, and participating in extracurricular activities? They can't, so they complain about Jon speaking out. They'd rather believe that C is a dangerous child than accept the fact that Kate lied. It must be even worse for them to see the close bond he appears to have with Colleen. She's the mother he never had--but always deserved.
I feel for you, admin, having to write up this latest episode, which sounds like a total snooze-fest to me. Aunt Win watched it and said it looked like a prolonged ad for The North Face clothing. Kate must have been hard at work grifting new outerwear. Other than that, it sounds very low-budget. They drove to NC, stayed for just a few days, took a free tour of a college campus, did only a couple low-budget activities, and had dinner at home. No extravagant travels, no home improvements, not even a filmed shopping excursion. They filmed while spending thousands at expensive boutiques in preparation for the twins starting high school, but not for college. I have no doubt Kate tried to line up something similar, especially since she got a lot of merchandise for herself on the previous shopping trip, but somehow it just didn't materialize for her. How sad (not).
I'm sorry, but I find this entire Meghan and Harry saga silly. They seem to be doing their jobs , as far as being royals go. Saying "off with their heads" because they complain about their treatment in the press , shows how ridiculous people's priorities are. I'm not that sure as many people care as they would like us to believe with everything else going on. You've got Brexit...which actually affects people's lives, unlike Harry and Meghan, you've got the perversion of Prince Andrew that has been hidden for years. If the tax payers want to complain about funding Harry and Meghan's lifestyle, they should first find out how much of their money has been paid to keep the horrific truth about Andrew from becoming public. NOTHING Meghan and Harry do in their entire lives will ever come close to scandals the royal family have paid to "go away." If the press keeps piling on and Harry and Meghan just keep doing what they are supposed to do, the intent will backfire. They will come through this looking stronger and more resilient...which will just make Charles and William look weaker.
Like Meghan said, she thought at least the press would be fair, and refusing to cover stories like this while hyper focusing on all the conflict really isn't fair.
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Life isn't fair. Princesses aren't exempt from being subject to unfairness. A nasty British tabloid press unfortunately comes with the territory. If she thought she would get a pass, she waa living in a fantasy land. She's a thirty-something woman who made a choice, not some wide-eyed child bride.
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And that's the difference between your lot and everyone else. You think that a nasty press "comes with the territory" and that Meghan should just have to put up with racism and everything else. Except William and Kate are now treated pretty darn nicely in the press now that they see the negative stories that sell are Meghan stories. It's not something THEY have to put up with, why should Harry and Meghan? Harry and Meghan do not believe the untruthfulness and racism is something they should just have to put up with, and so they're suing. Just and William and Kate sued when the press went too far. There IS such a thing as the press going too far. There is such a thing as boundaries.
It doesn't matter if you're a princess or a nobody or knew it was coming or didn't know it was coming. No one should have to endure this. Also, Meghan isn't a princess. She's a duchess.
Looks like Cara had fun on Halloween with a friend of hers. Someone posted on one of the Kate fan page a photo of her and a friend or possibly her roommate. I am so happy for her that she's able to live her life away from her mother.
Gee is Kate taking her kids anywhere for Thanksgiving? Sounds like Jon has a great trip planned. https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-his-girlfriend-and-kids-are-vacationing-over-thanksgiving/
Well well, Kate's nanny/fan Emily will be in a Hallmark Christmas movie. A soldier but sounds like just an extra or very short part. It is Holiday for Heroes and think it is on Nov.8th.
Looked her up a bit. On her 'professional page she put Nanny for Kate plus 8.
https://www.backstage.com/u/emilycreighton/about/
Also looked a bit at her twitter. What BS!
Emily Creighton
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I could write a freaking novel on my ability to sniff out Narcissists.......
Also looked a bit at her twitter. What BS!
Emily Creighton
@EmCr68
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I could write a freaking novel on my ability to sniff out Narcissists.......
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I also love how she calls herself a starving actor/model. She’s a trust fund baby still going on great beach vacations and playing at working (teaches acting to kids at some workshop in CT). I wonder if she’s going to Paris for Christmas.
Reading through her twitter, she drinks quite often. Whines about lack of casting calls and then whines because they are on a day she has to do teaching at her old school. Spoiled baby.
I am sure she is very well set for life. Her mom got married 10 yrs ago in the Hiclere castle that is the set for Downton Abbey.
Ha!
Well, well... seems like Jon is able to do ‘fun trips’ without a TLC salary. Suck it Kate.
I bet the remaining 4 hostages are going to start thinking about all of this and connect a few more dots in regard to their mother’s scorched earth mentality with friends and family, needing a tv camera to put food on the table and pay for school. Kate’s hold on the remaining 4 is going to weaken from here on out. The twins flew the coop, they ain’t coming back.
Kate has wasted every opportunity given to her, she’s ruined every family and friend relationship she’s had. It’s almost unbelievable to watch someone self destruct like she does.
As these kids mature and go back and read the books she wrote about them, the words that came out of her mouth on the realer reality show, and they fully realize how she discarded a son like day old trash and then didn’t even bother to attend a custody hearing, oh my sakes, she’s got a day of judgement coming from her children. It’s coming,one by one those kids will see everything as how it really was.
I’d almost feel sorry for her but she’s earned every bit of karma that’s going to come her way.
My wish is for the kids to seek therapy and live happy and successful lives.
As for Kate? She doesn’t get what it means to love or be happy. As she says ‘I just don’t get it’. What a wasted life.
On another topic- she’s going to go ape shit crazy she’s not taking a posh trip on thanksgiving. Lol well,ya know, she’s got to start working on those amazing sticky buns so she can put them on the trash cans for ‘mr. trashman’. Lol
So Hannah and Collin have passports now? Hannah earlier said she could not get one because Kate would not let her. So has Kate relented? History would say no. There is a big shift in power here if Jon can singly sign for passports but Kate cannot singly sign for work permits.
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So Hannah and Collin have passports now? Hannah earlier said she could not get one because Kate would not let her. So has Kate relented? History would say no. There is a big shift in power here if Jon can singly sign for passports but Kate cannot singly sign for work permits.
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I don't pretend to know the details of their particular custody agreements, but in Pennsylvania, if Jon was awarded full legal custody of the children, then he would not need to consult with Kate on these types of issues. It's pretty difficult to lose legal custody over your children, but Kate may have very well met the criteria in PA after she failed to appear in court. Before it even gets to the going-before-a-judge phase, the parents are to negotiate and attempt to settle with Family Masters. So since Kate wouldn't negotiate during meetings with Family Masters (obviously, since it reached a before-the-judge stage), she was probably already on the court's bad side before they reached the judge. Then when she didn't appear, the court would have taken offense at her wasting their time.
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It's nice to see Jon getting ahead these days. He has both a full-time and a part-time job, Colleen has a good job, they have a nice house, and they are able to travel and do fun things. Kate was always the one with the money, but it looks like it's going to be a long time before she sees another TLC paycheck again. She was always able to buy the kids' loyalty, offer them more than Jon could, and use her money to bury him in court expenses. The shoe is on the other foot now--how's it feel, Kate? She took such sadistic delight in outdoing him and causing him financial hardship. Karma was a long time coming, but it has finally arrived.
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They would have had to have passports for Australia (and since that was over 10 years ago, wouldn't they simply be able to renew?), and they may have needed them for Mexico in 2015. So maybe once they've had them, they no longer need both parents to sign off? I dunno.
And good on Jon and Colleen to take the whole family away for the break. I hope they have a perfectly splendid time. I'm sure the difference in traveling demeanor will not be lost on either of the tups.
There’s a new book coming out about the Dionne Quints https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/11/03/dionne-quintuplets-exploitation-five-girls-raised-baby-zoo/
Layla (#78), yeah, you can't help but get a kick out of seeing karma plant a big wet one on the woman who claimed that she was in charge and that was never gonna change.
And remembering how she delighted in sharing that C's father didn't know where his son was, now it's Jon's turn to keep C's Thanksgiving destination private. Of course the difference in this case is that TFW truly doesn't give a damn where her son is.
I seem to recall someone on this blog mentioned that one or more of the Dionne quints sent a letter to a family of newly born multiples , asking them to not push the babies into the public eye.
My mother had a book Pierre Burton wrote detailing the terrible upbringing the girls had.
The Dionnes wrote their own book called We Were Five. Sadly after they were returned to their parents their private upbringing was no improvement. They were first taken from their parents because they were going to be displayed at the world's fair when they were infants. Then there was the whole English vs. French dynamic at play. They really didn't have a chance.
I forgot to mention her journal!
I hope the kids don’t read it.
When it was first published, I could only read a little bit at a time, the abuse was just too extreme.
Idk, maybe it would be a cathartic experience for the kids, showing that what they imagined happened really DID occur, this helping them to process it through therapy and move forward.
Kate will never apologize- she will justify her actions until she draws her last breath.
Jolie 82. The Dionne's wrote the letter to the McCaugheys when they had 7 children at once. They described the horrors they endured being on public display and never having a normal life. Kenny and Bobbi took their advise. Apparently they never had any intention of exploiting the children. I remember after the children were born Bobbie had her teeth fixed as they were in deplorable condition and she got flack for it. People were saying she wasted money for spending it on herself when it was actually a health concern and not for vanity. Good old Kate spent tons on herself and nothing was said...boob job, veneers, botox, whatever she desired.
foxy (#85), if TFW ever did admit to her physical procedures (she sure clung to that "good bra" story), she'd probably say it gave her confidence, which made her a "better mommy."
Many of us have said this over the years, but it bears repeating. There are children out there who endure unimaginable pain from which their parents can offer no relief.
They must smile and be strong for their kids while their own hearts are breaking because of the helplessness of the situation. But this heifer DELIBERATELY inflicted physical and emotional pain upon her children. Children who miraculously survived the NICU with little to no residual medical issues. To think C was a tiny little thing in an incubator, and then 2 years later she grabbed that little boy by the hair, threw him in his crib and beat him to the point she admittedly felt she could seriously hurt him. She is a horrible gestational carrier.
I do get a tickle out of this one aspect.
Jon seems to be able to live the normal life as an IT person now, so what he has a job on the side, hobby whatever you want to call it, and his girlfriend has a job essentially in the same medical field (perhaps?) I'm not entirely sure as Kate might have had all those years ago. And they seem to be able to live just fine a normal life, in I assume a nice house. The children don't seem to lack for anything physical. And they get on.
So Kate's theory that they would have been struggling seems to be just totally out of wack.
Well well, Kate's nanny/fan Emily will be in a Hallmark Christmas movie. A soldier but sounds like just an extra or very short part. It is Holiday for Heroes and think it is on Nov.8th.
Looked her up a bit. On her 'professional page she put Nanny for Kate plus 8.
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Nanny on Kate Plus 8? She was on for ONE episode, and it was when the family came to her neck of the woods in Connecticut for that race none of the kids wanted to be a part of. She wasn't like Ashley featured in dozens of episodes.
I'm not sure resume embellishing is going to help her "career."
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Nanny on Kate Plus 8? She was on for ONE episode, and it was when the family came to her neck of the woods in Connecticut for that race none of the kids wanted to be a part of.
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I think you're misremembering it. That race was never on an episode. It was when Kate was in her "marathon mama" phase, and she (and Skeve) took the kids to a famous annual race in CT, and there was a 1-mile thing for kids. I think this was June 2012, when she was no longer filming. Kate forced them to run, and they clearly weren't into it. And that's where she met her (near) biggest fan, Emily (pace Paige), who was photographed with various tups on her lap. And then Emily appeared in the first episode of her comeback series, which was filmed in summer 2014 (the New England trip) and aired in January 2015 (to coincide with her appearance on The Apprentice.... yes, TLC, we know what you were thinking).
It's possible I have the dates wrong, someone please do correct me if I'm wrong.
I think Emily went along with them on one trip as a nanny. I seem to remember some controversy on her twitter feed when she mentioned the drugs that she had to give the kids.
Remember the red-haired nanny Jenny/ Wonder what happened with her? She was there a lot then ...gone! She seemed nice although the kids did not mind her well.
Adam Busby from Outdaughtered is letting his inner diva show. A fan commented that it seemed like Danielle was the "alpha female" and that it made him seem like an idiot. Daddy Busby replied, "That is something we have seen in the editing more over the last couple seasons and it isn't true to our relationship. It WILL stop."
So they're already publicly biting the hand that feeds them at TLC. But didn't the mom say there would be no negative effects on them from being on TV because "We're the Busbys?" This is another train wreck in the making.
It is obvious that there is some creative drama editing going on, but I do think the Busbys are much more normal and measured than kart. They seem to have a pretty good relationship, all things considered ... they don't mind having family on the show and the kids have relationship with cousins aunts and uncles... and of course there is mimi....
The puppy seemed a bit much... why throw a snappy dog into the chaos, but all in all, they are easier to watch than the 'get yer popcorn' abuser
The Busbys aren't quite as bad...yet. Give them a little more time and they will be. TLC is editing this show the same way they edited the Gosselins. Weak, useless husband, alpha wife doing everything with no help. He better put and end to it or when they divorce, they will portray him exactly how they portrayed Jon. Clueless, useless and unable to care for his own children. The Gosselins should be a cautionary tale for anyone putting their children on reality TV. People just never learn.
Uh oh. An abc reporter says the palace threatened them a million different ways to not publish the Epstein/Prince Andrew story and they’d never be able to interview William and Kate again. But, Prince Harry and Meghan are the problem here?
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Adam Busby from Outdaughtered is letting his inner diva show. A fan commented that it seemed like Danielle was the "alpha female" and that it made him seem like an idiot. Daddy Busby replied, "That is something we have seen in the editing more over the last couple seasons and it isn't true to our relationship. It WILL stop."
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Sounds like they are doing the same storyline as the Gosselins. TLC always seems to make issues look worse than they are. Many reality shows on all networks actually. I have read articles on what wasn't true on many of the reality shows and don't believe anything any more.
I hope the Busby's have a decent contract that allows them to avoid filming the divorce to get 10 million viewers.
I wonder how long it will take for Katie to put her house on the market? She won't be able to afford it much longer. A normal 3-bedroom home would be plenty large enough for a mother, two boys, and two girls. Maybe even fewer kids, if more of them defect to the Jon side.
The family probably traded Harry & Meghan for Albert, William, & Kate Makes sense in an evil sort of way. Anne Boleyn was my 1st cousin 15 generations ago, along with Catherine Howard & Jane Seymour.
Boy, these tabs have spun out a single interview that Jon did in LV into at least 4-5 stories. Of course, the sheeple will accuse him of talking to the tabs every day to get paid. This is a good piece, I thought.
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-reveals-kids-hannah-and-collin-want-to-get-jobs/
Wouldn't it be funny if Hannah and Collin are driving before Mady and Cara.... Seems like they are leading normal lives now so it could happen.
Hannah and Colin want to get real jobs. They don't take after their mother. Jon said Colin worked on a farm. Kate mentioned it was with a neighbor, I think. I hope they get trust funds from the jobs they had as children, but I bet Kate fights that.
I remember some cryptic tweets from Emily back in the day and figured out through some tweets here and there that she had been asked to nanny for K8 that summer. I was looking at her IG and Collin likes her posts.
I think Harry and Meghan are being used by the British press because they are restricted in terms of what they are permitted to print about Andrew. When I say restricted, I mean not only at the request of the Palace, but also by the lawyers who represent the tabloids. I notice the Daily Mail is confining their Andrew articles to only a handful of reader comments.
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I think Harry and Meghan are being used by the British press because they are restricted in terms of what they are permitted to print about Andrew. When I say restricted, I mean not only at the request of the Palace, but also by the lawyers who represent the tabloids. I notice the Daily Mail is confining their Andrew articles to only a handful of reader comments.
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This situation is so messed up, and I'm sorry Harry and Meghan are the scapegoats when there's a child molester in the family skating through on a bed of roses.
The family probably traded Harry & Meghan for Albert, William, & Kate Makes sense in an evil sort of way. Anne Boleyn was my 1st cousin 15 generations ago, along with Catherine Howard & Jane Seymour.
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Traded is a good way to put it. I'm starting to feel really, really bad for Harry. He needs to get out of this family. I think William loves him, but isn't above throwing Harry under the bus if he has to. He's still close with Diana's family, he should check out from royal life and just hang out with them when he needs family.
Jon said that it’s an important lesson for them to learn, as it will show them how long it really takes to make a substantial living.
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For as much as these kids have worked, Jon's right, they don't understand a real typical job or understand that most real jobs don't involve going on trips and getting paid large sums of money to be filmed doing so. It's great they're enthusiastic to learn about the real working world and have a more typical lifestyle and be so normal even if it's far less money, it will be far more satisfying. It's great to hear.
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Yes, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Unfavourable articles (& they mostly
are) about Harry & Meghan are allowed to have free range critical comments thrown at them. Articles about Andrew & the rest of the royals say "the comments have been moderated. "
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Kate won't put her house on the market unless she's bankrupt. That house, in her mind, is what separates her from ordinary people. She'd use the kids' college funds to pay for it and make them take out student loans--but she won't part with it. We've speculated here that she'll end up like that movie "Grey Gardens", desperately hanging onto a house that is falling down around her because she can't afford to maintain it--but she won't leave.
Meghan wants to 'modernize' the monarchy? Then donate all the land and castles to the public that is funding your lifestyle.
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It's a great idea, but Meghan doesn't own that land so how is she supposed to donate it?
Yes, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Unfavourable articles (& they mostly
are) about Harry & Meghan are allowed to have free range critical comments thrown at them. Articles about Andrew & the rest of the royals say "the comments have been moderated. "
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It's beyond glaring now that Harry and Meghan were allowed to be the sacrificial lamb of distraction this whole summer during the Prince Andrew fiasco.
As the ABC reporter explained, the palace was banging down their doors earlier this year telling them don't you dare publish this Epstein-Prince Andrew story or you'll never have access to William again. So how come they can't bang down doors over the negative Harry-Meghan stuff?
Wow, those two really got used as pawns. They got it up the ass. I was naive.
Yes, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Unfavourable articles (& they mostly
are) about Harry & Meghan are allowed to have free range critical comments thrown at them. Articles about Andrew & the rest of the royals say "the comments have been moderated. "
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It's beyond glaring now that Harry and Meghan were allowed to be the sacrificial lamb of distraction this whole summer during the Prince Andrew fiasco.
As the ABC reporter explained, the palace was banging down their doors earlier this year telling them don't you dare publish this Epstein-Prince Andrew story or you'll never have access to William again. So how come they can't bang down doors over the negative Harry-Meghan stuff?
Wow, those two really got used as pawns. They got it up the ass. I was naive.
Who says they aren't?
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Because the articles are getting published and the comments are allowed to flow.
Because Harry has had to sue on his own instead of Grammy taking care of it before it ever even happened.
This can’t be denied anymore.
Kate Middleton didn’t exactly turn the other cheek on her invasive photos. Nice rewriting of history. She sued. But before she had to Grammy made sure no pics were published in the UK. She couldn’t do as much about them being published abroad.
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/10/article/hold-meghan-locked-in-a-royal-hell-of-her-own-making/
Another excellent article.
"Camilla can easily empathise with Meghan because of what she went through in the media. At one stage, no one was more beleaguered by the tabloids than Camilla, but she was shrewd enough to know that antagonism would get her nowhere.
Meghan could learn an enormous amount from Camilla. … The thing Camilla learned was how to cultivate a relationship with the press. I have watched her talk to reporters, be friendly with the photographers and win over the tabloids who had once tried to ruin her."
So. Kate AND Camilla have been through royal hell. Much worse than poor Meghan. There is zero defense for Meghan's public winging. None. She has done it to herself.
Thanks for that thoughtful article, A Royal Mess; the Asia Times accomplished a common sense article.
And what would you like the Queen to do? Tell those meanie Americans to stop being so mean to Meghan? And pretty please could someone ask Meghan how her day went? Come on.
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It’s not the American press at all. Even Meghan admits this. It’s a few publications in the UK. And actually, the Queen has been quite successful with shutting down the UK press when she wants to and when appropriate. Google it and you will see the long history they have of negotiating with the press since Diana’s death, the laws they got changed, and the control they have had. They have had dozens of success stories when things like this have happened. I expect her to at minimum do what she did for her baby boy Prince Andrew and say if you publish these stories you’ll never speak to William and Kate again. That would be a start.
It’s true the press has been vicious to Camilla and Kate at times but they were never racist. Big difference. Also, all of those people have sued and nobody said that was whining, but when Meghan and Harry sue they are blasted and told to suck it up.
No one should ever have to suck up harassment. It’s sentiments like yours that are responsible for the metoo movement. And we wonder why women didn’t speak up.
You found it perfectly acceptable for actors like Richard Dreyfuss to expose themselves to colleagues when that was revealed (no pun intended) during the height of MeToo, but now "nobody" should suffer harassment. Your principles have a foundation of quicksand.
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Huh?? The guy’s conduct was consensual. The fact that she decided later she guesses she didn’t like it after all is not his fault. Same for Tom Brokow. Surely you understand consensual conduct does not fall under metoo. We’re not the pilgrims.
It harassment toward those men that diminishes true metoo incidents and does not help the cause. Try to think critically.
That Asia times article was anything but thoughtful. I can't believe anyone would think it is anything but biased and based on hatred. Not truth
Do William and Kate give tabloid interviews? I would be surprised if the Queen can use the same leverage with tabloids as she did with ABC.
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The tabloids are regularly given access to the royals at their numerous daily events as well as photo calls and press line-ups like outside the hospital at a birth. All she has to do is say don't wanna play ball you can forget those press passes. She has done it before for other members of the royal family the latest being Prince Andrew. So sure, there's a heck of a lot she could do. Instead they traded Harry for Andrew.
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/10/article/hold-meghan-locked-in-a-royal-hell-of-her-own-making/
Another excellent article.
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That was a very far right leaning article that also made fun of AOC and Hillary. I'm surprised you like it so much.
Got a few things decidedly wrong though: "Meghan’s decisive blunder was to take the Mail on Sunday to court after letters to her estranged father were leaked by her own father. The Royal family finds this sort of behavior distasteful and embarrassing." Wrong. Numerous royals have gone to court over articles include Prince William, Kate (for naked photos, for text messages) and Charles (for publishing his journal). If you paid attention at all you would have noticed the lengthy trial over William and Harry's text message leak, which occurred years and years before Meghan was around. No one implied that was distasteful and wrong, rather the royal family has a long recent history of being very much involved in lawsuits over the media in court. Do your research.
Harry is being manipulated by Americans to liberal causes: Incorrect, Harry was yammering about global warming years before he met Meghan. So has Prince Charles. He nearly invented global warming. The royal family has long championed some very liberal issues. It was never a problem before even if many of them were arguably political.
"Rather than using her public platform to call attention to the struggles of the people of Africa, she used the soapbox to air her personal complaints": The documentary was overflowing with information about current circumstances in Africa. A 30 second interview and a couple comments about the lawsuit was the only thing the press seized on. Harry and Meghan make near daily appearances and have never mentioned these complaints before or since. It is in fact the first time they ever spoke of the letter leak, which occurred months and months before. They do not walk around whining.
"To be the wife of sixth in line to the throne means in real terms that Meghan is constitutionally irrelevant. She thought that she personally mattered in her position in the pecking order in British society, which is merely a supporting member of the Monarchy, carrying the baton for Britain." She and Harry are the two most relevant royals at the moment. That's why a lot of people don't like this, as they prefer that be William and Kate darling.
"Congresswoman Ocasia-Cortez’s tweet about her own current suffering from the “dehumanization” of sudden prominence, resulted in an instant 40,000 retweets and splash across social media. It’s narcissism in an amplifier" Well that part is true. AOC is an idiot and a half who unlike Meghan, can make important decisions about our lives, and that's scary. If Meghan were a politician, I might feel differently about all this.
Geez even Hillary Clinton feels bad for Meghan. And she's made of steel. I bet she feels guilty because she sees what I see, they are being sacrificed for Andrew. Let's not forget her husband's ties to Epstein too.
Harry and Meghan have spent the last two days doing British Veterans Day related events. That includes spending a morning with military families near a Windsor base. William and Kate attended events too. This gets very little coverage.
So when I hear an article claiming Meghan is just about Meghan I have to wonder if they are really following this carefully. Harry and Meghan did the exact same things Kate and William did and more.
That's your opinion, not fact.
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Not really. I can say with a great degree of confidence they are relevant based on the evidence. A quick google search of news articles for "Harry and Meghan" comes up with 29 million articles. Not thousand. MILLION. (In contrast, googling Kate Gosselin comes up with 29,000)
I think it's fair to say they are not relevant to YOU, or frankly to me either. But relevant in generally, yes, they are relevant, that is a fact not an opinion.
I love that Jon wants C&H (pure cane sugar) to get real jobs. My high school sweetheart's mom (God rest her soul) once told him "your girlfriend has two jobs, and goes to school every day at 14!" Love you all, please do the Thanksgiving green goop recipes, cause you know I'm making it again this year.
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Kristine101 (#123), so great to see you (if that's really you!). Some of us sure go way back here, don't we? Hope you are well!
Chefsummer, are you still out there?
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Kristine101 (#123), so great to see you (if that's really you!). Some of us sure go way back here, don't we? Hope you are well!
Chefsummer, are you still out there?
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And Tucker's Mom & Auntie Ann, you're missed!
I believe Harry and Meghan are expected to arrive in the U.S. next week for their six week break. It will be interesting to see how the U.S. media cover their visit. According to reports from the U.K., when the 72 female Members of Parliament, who signed a letter of support for Meghan after claiming she was a victim of racism, were contacted none of them were able to give an example of racism in the press. There have been many readers' comments though which have been decidedly racist in character coming from all over the world.
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