Tuesday, February 12, 2019

Kate Plus Date press tour and June airdate announced

TLC has finally made a somewhat more concrete announcement about the mysterious series complete with a few press events and photos

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We're talking to Kate Gosselin about her new dating show! And hitting the red carpet for all the drama with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.







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Layla said...

Love Trader Joe's! Some favorites are the ham, gruyere, and caramelized onion flatbread pizzas, the frozen spinach and artichoke dip, Belgian chocolate pudding, frozen chocolate croissants, caramel corn, and marinated mozzarella. Their fried rice (freezer section) is really good and perfect for a quick dinner. My pups love their dog treats, especially the salmon jerky, the salmon and sweet potato treats, and the chew sticks wrapped in chicken jerky. Love, love, love that place!

Layla said...

A couple other Trader Joe's favorites are the gorgonzola crackers and the sriracha BBQ sauce. And I always keep some garlic naan on hand. Just some things to try if you haven't done so yet.

MamaC said...

I am also a fan of "Everything Bagel" seasoning and their mini rice thins. I am actually grateful I don't have the store nearby LOL

JoyinVirginia said...

NCAA championship game is TERRIFIC! and for something really funny, check out air-hornz.com
Outtakes from the Charles Barkley- Spike Lee -Sam Jackson commercials

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I love it...Trader Joe generates more comments than Grifter Kate!

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Now I wish I'd mentioned Trader Joe's here before I made up my grocery list! I asked for crackers, various cheeses, (much cheaper than here) , frozen artichoke hearts & frozen pearl onions, which I can never find at home & their lemon kitchen hand soap.

My list will be much longer next time!

Now if only there was a Wegmans around...

Flight of the Kiwi said...

I just returned from daughter's - she is a big TJ fan. She had a plastic tin of an almond cookie, with almond pieces and, IIRC (and, probably, I don't) almond butter. They were addictive. Small, round cookies from heaven. Serving size 6 cookies and only 4 sugars. I purposely did NOT get the name. Our local TJ's is small and never has what her big city TJ's stocks.

capecodmama said...

JoyinVirginia...Awesome game! Congrats on the win!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Just stumbled upon a new reality show spinoff of "Chrisley Knows Best" on USA. It features Todd's kids and it's called "Growing Up Chrisley." The tooth-whitening budget on this show must be through the roof. Even Grandma Chrisley has glow-in-the-dark choppers. Meanwhile, Schmoopy's "Growing Up Gosselin" fantasy fades further beyond reach.

Formerly Duped said...

My comments have not been going through..I had said we don't know if both twins will go to college, maybe. I can see Kate and Mady trying to get a spin-off of the two of them and their 'zany' adventures. Yawn.

PS Also a TJ fan and being from Canada but now a dual Us/Canadian citizen, the chocolate bars are missed! While you can get some at World Market, they are expensive. I also have a list for visiting friends and relatives, lol

FlimsyFlamsy said...

The tips will turn 15 in a month. Will TFW acknowledge their special day on social media, when one third of them are living under their father's roof?

JoyinVirginia said...

Anyone watching Jeopardy every day? there is a professional sports gambler from Las Vegas Vegas a winning streak right now, and my goodness that guy is SMART! and FEARLESS when it comes to betting. and he has definitely taken excellent care of his very white teeth! he could give the chrisleys competition in a teeth whitening contest!

Layla said...

jolie Jacquelyn,
Hopefully your son will bring home some of the gorgonzola crackers--and the "everything" crackers are good, too. You will definitely have to send a longer list next time, and a cooler too. They have a lot of really good frozen items you'll want to try. I mentioned a few (you HAVE to try the ham, gruyere and caramelized onion pizza! It has a pastry crust and crème fraiche instead of pizza sauce. It's to die for), and the orange chicken, fried rice (especially the Japanese kind), brownie crisp coffee ice cream sandwiches...yum. My boys love the mini peanut butter cups and the chocolate bars you can buy in packs of 3 at the register. Let us know next time your son is going and we'll give you lots of suggestions.

We loved everything in our box from Canada. I loved the bold flavor of the chips. I'm putting a box together to send to our friends, and I'm going to put a bunch of Trader Joe's items in it. They're not crazy about a lot of American things, but I know they'll love the TJ's items.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My comments have not been going through..I had said we don't know if both twins will go to college, maybe. I can see Kate and Mady trying to get a spin-off of the two of them and their 'zany' adventures. Yawn.

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I can see that spinoff.....never making it out of the conference room in Silver Spring.

Formerly Duped said...

Joy, I am enjoying Jeopardy too, as I have for decades! I am very sad about Alex Trebec's health news. Such a smart classy and kind man.I think Jeopardy is a cut above any other game show.

ncgirl said...

This is a tabloid so I don't know if it's true. Octomom wants a show, but nobody wants her because she's toxic. Why can't Kate be toxic to TLC?

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/04/octomom-nadya-suleman-wants-reality-tv-show/

Lorrie said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 11

I imagine she will, probably with a throwback pic of them as toddlers.

Anonymous said...

This is a tabloid so I don't know if it's true. Octomom wants a show, but nobody wants her because she's toxic. Why can't Kate be toxic to TLC?

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/04/octomom-nadya-suleman-wants-reality-tv-show/

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I don’t think it’s true. She did a few interviews at the beginning of the year. They were about the octuplets turning ten. She mentioned how toxic the media influence has been. She feed into it because she was trying to make money for her family. She did many things she now regrets. She had a mental breakdown and required inpatient care. She cut back her contact with the media after this. She has mostly lived a private life.

She is not rich but is supporting her family. They live in a three bedroom town house. It’s cramped but they make it work. One of her older children has autism. He is nonverbal and requires a lot of care. Her son lives with the family (take that Kate fans).

Andrea

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 13

I went on a hunt today for the pizza you described. There's a TJ about 8 miles from me, but I rarely venture there. I found "Taste of Alsace" and just had it for dinner. WHAT a find! Do you put it on a cookie sheet or just straight on the oven rack? Mine was on a sheet and the center came out a bit drippy. But the flavors were wonderful. Thanks for the heads-up. :)

BlueJay said...

Probably because TLC has little else going for it these days since they seem to have taken this reality route. I miss the days when they actually ran stories where you learned things of interest or value.

I just got back from Texas visiting my family. Boy are granddaughters expensive. Sigh.

I'm hoping Kate's two oldest will just scrap this and go off to college like my oldest is planning on doing.

Sad but true said...

BlueJay said... 20
Probably because TLC has little else going for it these days since they seem to have taken this reality route.
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I skimmed an article the other day that said Discovery's DIY network is going to become the Chip & Joanna Gaines network in 2020. I had read these two were planning to produce their own show, but I had no idea it was going to entail them somehow being in charge of an entire network. It sounds like they're doing something similar to what Oprah has going with Discovery. While I'm not especially taken with either Chip or Joanna (or their products), you gotta admire their hustle.

Ah, Schmoops. What might have been. :)

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Former Lurker (#22), good sleuthing. Looks like Schmoopy is still riding the pine until some other show gets dropped. Her TLC "family" is just as transactional with her as she is with her own family members: they got what they needed from her, then kicked her to the curb.

Sad but true said...

Former Lurker said... 23

Well, to be fair, neither article mentions the various multiple shows or the Duggars. So who knows what this means? Although it is a little strange she wasn't even there (if she wasn't) given that she's so close.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true (#25), yes I did think of that. But, those are shows that are already on the air. The articles all mention new shows that are coming to TLC, (and the other Discovery networks), and the info appears to be straight from a press release that TLC provided.

I've read at least four articles and they all only mention the same four new shows coming to TLC, (as well as all the news shows coming to Discovery's other networks). I didn't see any mention of current, returning shows. TLC is promoting their new shows to the advertisers in these upfronts.

So, I find it strange that TFW's new show isn't mentioned at all. They mention two new shows that are spinoffs of 90 Day Fiancé, which premiere in June and July. But, no mention of TFW's new dating show? I would think they would be promoting her show too, especially since it's supposed to premiere in June.

One article I read says that Discovery is doing six upfronts. This NY one was the fifth one. The final upfront is in Los Angeles on April 24th. Maybe she'll be at that one, or her new show will at least be mentioned during that one.

Susan 1956 said...

Sad but true said... 25
Former Lurker said... 23

Well, to be fair, neither article mentions the various multiple shows or the Duggars. So who knows what this means? Although it is a little strange she wasn't even there (if she wasn't) given that she's so close.
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I still watch Dr. Pimple Popper and My 600 lb. life on TLC sometimes. TLC seems to be repackaging episodes of Dr. Pimple Popper with bonus footage and advertising them as new episodes and I'm starting to talk back to the people featured on My 600 lb. life. I did see a commercial featuring several of the families on TLC that included BPLW and Outdaughtered with the hook being that these shows are 'uplifting' or something along those lines. Sorry I can't remember more specifics but I've only seen that commercial once. I seem to be getting more TLC centered news from my FB feed. For instance Jeremy and Audrey from BPLW are out on a book tour promoting their first book, Jill Duggar? is almost ready to give birth, Kendall Duggar is pregnant with baby #2 and there were even pictures that popped up of a birthday party for one of the Duggar grandchildren complete with Babykins and Josh's kids. Which makes you wonder who else was there just out of camera range

And Schmoopy's got what again? An extremely lame dating show that may or may not air when she could have picked a brand--author, cook, etc. and developed it for the long con, eh run.

JoyinVirginia said...

celebration for the Wahoos, the Virginia Cavaliers today! one friend is there. Sorry at this link illustrates why we feel so proud.

https://medium.com/@adamsgottschalk/winning-at-virginia-8decc0827f55?fbclid=IwAR257s_37C8hSHwlkV9fuh-QJiL0M3sJOZbCgEf9rZ5hW4XvSLzNrzvh4AE

Layla said...

Sad but true said... 19
Layla said... 13

I went on a hunt today for the pizza you described. There's a TJ about 8 miles from me, but I rarely venture there. I found "Taste of Alsace" and just had it for dinner. WHAT a find! Do you put it on a cookie sheet or just straight on the oven rack? Mine was on a sheet and the center came out a bit drippy. But the flavors were wonderful. Thanks for the heads-up. :)
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I usually put it directly on the oven rack because I like a crust. I also bake it a few minutes longer than the package recommends. That is my favorite lunch of all time--I can eat the whole thing myself (and frequently do). I'm glad you tried it!

Layla said...

++from (29)
I meant to say I like a crispy crust.

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 30

I'm there for the crisp, too. I'll be doing it on the rack next time. Good stuff! I'm going to look for other items from "Mister Pierre," LOL.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


So, I find it strange that TFW's new show isn't mentioned at all. They mention two new shows that are spinoffs of 90 Day Fiancé, which premiere in June and July. But, no mention of TFW's new dating show? I would think they would be promoting her show too, especially since it's supposed to premiere in June.

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It's pretty embarrassing and curious that they mention it last year, never air it, then claim they're airing it this year, but don't make it a part of this press event.

This is what happens when you're just filler, put on the back burner as something to plug into a time slot when you run out of your headliners.

NJGal51 said...

If TLC didn’t spring for TFW to attend the NY up fronts I doubt that they’ll pay to send her to LA and put her up in first class accommodations. She could have easily attended in NY and gone home the same day. Very curious that she wasn’t there and if she was there that she wasn’t photographed nor was any mention made of the fake date show.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Probably because TLC has little else going for it these days since they seem to have taken this reality route. I miss the days when they actually ran stories where you learned things of interest or value.


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I watched TLC when it first was added to my cable lineup when I was a kid. It's my impression that back in those days, they were just buying up a bunch of pre-made documentaries, many of them British, and re-airing them. Most were anywhere from very good to excellent, all were interesting. Documentaries like those might be easier to find these days on youtube or Netflix but not so back then, and so TLC was a great place to get them all. What a shame.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#34), and we know, all expenses paid or not, girlfriend would go to the opening of an envelope. She'd gleefully dip into her kids' accounts and claim going to the upfronts without her 6 little moneymakers was important to their health and well being. So if she wasn't there, she wasn't invited.

Former Lurker said...

TLC did spring for a trip to LA in February, which is what this post is about. They paid to send not just TFW, but also Mady and Cara to the Television Critics Association (TCA) event on February 12th to promote the show and announce that it was now set to premiere in June.

I don't actually think they'll send her to the upfronts in L.A. on April 24th. But, I do find it curious that they flew the three of them to L.A. in February but then didn't have her in NY this week to promote the show at the upfronts. It's kind of a no brainer to have her in NY this week when she's so close, and when the premiere is supposedly only two months away.

And, I still think it's odd that all the info that TLC gave to the press about their upcoming new shows fails to mention her dating show. They first started promoting this show a year ago at the April 2018 upfronts in NY, and now nothing? Kind of strange. Something seems off here.

Layla said...

Sad but true said... 31
Layla said... 30

I'm there for the crisp, too. I'll be doing it on the rack next time. Good stuff! I'm going to look for other items from "Mister Pierre," LOL.
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There's another similar pizza that I did not care for. I can't remember what it's called but it has halved cherry tomatoes on it. You'll know it when you see it. That one just didn't work for me--the flavors were all wrong. We have tried--and enjoyed--the one with prosciutto and the barbecue chicken pizza, but the Tarte D'Alsace is in a class all its own. If you have kids, they'll love the frozen bite-size churros/ Mine sure do. And I'm partial to the shells with asparagus and brie. I'm heading to TJ's tomorrow, and I have a huge list--I'm craving everything now!

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 35
NJGal51 (#34), and we know, all expenses paid or not, girlfriend would go to the opening of an envelope. She'd gleefully dip into her kids' accounts and claim going to the upfronts without her 6 little moneymakers was important to their health and well being. So if she wasn't there, she wasn't invited.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Kate has decided to keep Hannah's and Colin's trusts for her own use. The kids have revocable trusts, so she can do that. The reason I think she did is because Hannah is going to public school instead of returning to her private school. She said last summer that she would be returning to her school, and then suddenly she wasn't. Kate would absolutely use money--even the kids' money--to control them, and I think she used the threat of public school to try to get Hannah to return home (and keep filming). Hannah is a smart girl. She would have known what her mom was up to. Of all the kids, I think she's the one who really understands that they are being used by Kate. And I bet she didn't go for it.

Speaking of the kids' money, I wonder if there will be enough for them all to go to college when they reach that age. Kate hs had free access to their money, and could use it for whatever she wants (as long as she could come up with a lame explanation for how it was used for the kids). She has been free to pillage for a long time, and I wouldn't be surprised if the younger kids in particular have to take out loans to go to college.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Pimple Popper posted a video from the NY Discovery up fronts. TLC sent her a couple of her assistances. Looks like they had a great time. There were even a few fan girl moments.I doubt she will be traveling on Discovery’s dime to LA to promote her show.

Anyone remuwhen Kaye tried to get her fans to advertise her show? I think one women stood in a parking lot holding a sign about the show. She has not learned anything about promoting her show after all these years.

Andrea

BlueJay said...

I sort of wonder when she'll run out the kid's trust fund money if that's the case. No reality show could possibly pay that well. But what do I know. I could I suppose. If she's going to possibly blow through the childen's trust fund money like this, face it she has to upkeep the house, all the bills, car payments, to clothe herself, the remaining kids, all the other things in a person's daily life, emergencies that come up all the normal things that you know normal people have to plan for. I guess being a normal person I think of these things myself. So when this money dries up and her children apply to college and such or other things like she sudden is bone dry I mean...well good luck on that raft out there Kate.

I am going to feel bad for these kids if this is the case and she really has dipped into these funds she's rambled on for all these years this reality show was to support them and there's suddenly no money for them. I'm not at all going to feel bad however when she's you know in her golden age years and there's no money.

Formerly Duped said...

Well, Boston Marathon started with thunder, rain, winds and power outages...but a far cry from the bombings 6 years ago. Good luck to all participants

It's also annual "One Boston Day " dedicated to random and planned acts of kindness in memory...donate food to shelters, blood to the blood bank, be kind to your neighbor....

Layla said...

BlueJay (40)

I worry about the kids' money because Kate has shown time and again that she puts her own wants and needs before the kids'. She has been relentless in her efforts to force them to support her from the moment they were conceived. Reality TV does pay well by all accounts, but she has gone for long stretches of time when she has been unemployed. There are still bills to pay even if there's no income coming in, and she refuses to work (other than filming). She always blamed the kids for her refusal to get a job, and I'm sure she'd use the same excuses to dip into their money. J&K made it clear that the house was supposed to belong to the kids, but Kate referred to it as "MY house", and of course she refinanced it back in 2011 and removed the name of the lawyer representing the kids' trust. It is now listed jointly in her name and the trust. I don't see her giving it up--ever. If she'll take the house, what else will she take from them?

Speaking as a parent with multiple kids in college at once, no matter how much you have saved, it's never enough. Kids decide to go for advanced degrees, they change their majors (making it necessary for them to stay in school for much longer than originally planned). You can never be too prepared. DH and I are budgeting tightly to make up the difference, but Kate doesn't have a consistent income to do that. The money has to come from somewhere. The least the kids can expect from their years of hard work is a college education without debt. Let's hope that happens for them, but I have doubts.

Sad but true said...

RealityCon coming in 2020! Will Katie be there?

http://news.trust.org/item/20190416134634-2tdbe

BlueJay said...

Layla, I have my own doubts as well for these children to attend college without having debt despite they have worked for their educational money all these years. Which will be truly sad.

That said, I however will have no sympathy whatsoever for Kate as she ages and probably will find it difficult to pay bills and such. I mean lets face it this will probably I assume given her lavishness I've seen in her reality heyday how she appeared her money management doesn't appear to me...well, to be, well, all that bright.

When my kids, who are now all grown adults went to college we helped them out but not it was never enough to give the three of them full rides, no but they're well off enough I mean we weren't broke but our middle one changed their major but that was their business and on them for that. And she has 8 so I can't imagine where all that's going to come from. I cringe provided she's cushioned enough for that. We're talking tuition, books, dorms, and everything else that comes with it these days.

I think she's dug herself a fine hole there she's too proud to admit she can't get herself out of though. But again I don't feel bad not one bit. I only feed bad for these kids as they come up in age here when they're going to be asking all these questions such as were is our money?

Former Lurker said...

There's no way TFW hasn't been using the kids' money all these years to pay for their private school tuition. That must have sucked up a huge amount of their money. Plus, she has several more years to go with the four of them that are left.

I've always believed that she uses their money for every single expense that she can call theirs, plus most likely the mortgage and all household expenses. I really think it's every single expense, including medical insurance, food, utilities, taxes, the cars and car insurance. In her mind, she justifies it all as being for them.

As far as whatever money she has left for herself and the kids, she can be thankful for the excellent stock market we've had the last two and a half years. With some wise investing in a well rounded portfolio, she can easily have considerable growth.

Layla said...

BlueJay (44)
I hear you on college. DH and I have always been determined to put all our boys through college, and we thought we were well set but we weren't as prepared as we thought we were. Fees are a killer, too. I have 2 boys now who are Computer Science majors (and a CS major who has already graduated), and just the fees for that major run in the thousands per year, per child--in addition to everything else. Ouch. All I can say is, she better make room for all the extras when all those kids are in college together. I kind of doubt that Hannah and Collin will get college money. She's not paying for private school for those two any longer, and she may have cut them off completely. I'm sure we'll hear about it if she withholds the money THEY earned to pay for their college.

NJGal51 said...

There's no way TFW hasn't been using the kids' money all these years to pay for their private school tuition. That must have sucked up a huge amount of their money. Plus, she has several more years to go with the four of them that are left.
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Admin - Since Jon now has two of the kids can’t he ask for an accounting of their money? I’d love to see a forensic accountant go over her books.

Sorry if this posts twice but blogger has been giving me fits lately and it’s hit or mis when I try to post.

Ingrid said...

If Kate used their money to improve, maintain, pay for their house and their name isn't on it would they have grounds to go after any profit she makes on it? (not that I expect much of a profit)

foxy said...

It has been so quiet in the house of Kate. No Easter egg hunt, nothing. I guess she found out that almost 15 years old kids can't be made to look like toddlers any more. No news of her fake date show either. Nothing.

Giffers said...

Collin posted a picture on his Instagram of his Easter basket....probably the first one he has had in 3 years. She thought she was doing herself a favor by cruelly sending him away. Instead, she showed just how cold hearted she really is. It would be poetic justice if she loses the stupid dating show and all other opportunities because of the way she treated him.

Formerly Duped said...

Giffers said... 50

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I'm happy to hear that! He probably got age-appropriate things and he did not have to shop at Ms Bunny's discount candy stand. Or maybe he has some fond memories, idk.Having an IG account also means he is a normal teen now. So happy for him, and Hannah too.

Hope everyone had a great Easter or Passover or whatever you did!

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

OT -- Michael and Susan Schofield and their children, Jani and Bodi.

A long time ago, we discussed this family here. Michael had written a book about caring for a schizophrenic daughter, Jani. The family had been interviewed on the Dr. Phil show.

I just learned that the parents divorced in 2015. The dad moved 1,800 miles away and remarried. A custody case with lots of accusations ensued. The mom also remarried and started a youtube channel to document the children's daily lives.

Last month the children were removed from their mother's care. They are in care now to detox them and do psych evaluations.

Jani is now 16-years old.






JoyinVirginia said...

saw a brief announcement that another Duggar daughter is expecting her first child. I suspect another very special episode on TLC coming up!

Formerly Duped said...

Hi Dmasy

I follow the Schofields. It's a very sad case. Those two children seem to have been abused and the mother must have Munchhausen by Proxy and the father other mental illness. I watched a few of the mom's videos and read the dad's book. I am glad they were finally taken out of that weird home. Talk about exploitation of your children- very dangerous situation that went on far too long.I hope the kids can recover.

Layla said...

foxy (49)
Of course there was no Easter egg hunt. She doesn't do anything for the kids unless it's filmed. No vacations, no big birthday bashes, no Easter egg hunts. I get that the kids are older now, but I did an Easter egg hunt for my kids, most of whom are the age of the G kids or older. I put money in the eggs. I did baskets for them, too, and put in t-shirts, CDs, DVDs, and gift cards for their favorite pizza and ice cream places. I didn't get any complaints! I seriously doubt that Kate would do anything like that. It's feast or famine for those kids, depending on whether they are filming or not.

Ingrid (48)
If the kids ever want any part of that house, they will have to fight Kate for it. She planned on making the kids work until they left for college. Without filming, she will look out for herself first. Their trusts are revocable, and she will take their money rather than get a job and support herself. The house is in her name as well as the kids' trust, and she will keep it for herself too or maybe sell it and keep the proceeds rather than give the kids any of it. None of it was ever really for them. She just said that because she thought it made her sound less greedy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Those two children seem to have been abused and the mother must have Munchhausen by Proxy and the father other mental illnes

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Speaking of muchausen, anyone else watching The Act on Hulu about Gypsy Rose Blanchard? Oh my goodness it's so good!

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

I have followed the Gypsy Blanchard story. I have not seen The Act. There have been several other documentaries that are also fascinating. Gypsy has been on the Dr. Phil show.

Speaking of Dr. Phil -- the first of a two part interview with Michael Peterson (The Staircase) was today.

I have been getting my true crime fix.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Dmasy (#57), your true crime obsession continues to amuse me. You seem like such a sweet gal, but you sure do love you some murder!

Giffers (#50), thanks for letting us know about C's post. Let's hope these months with his father and sister are starting to rebuild his trust. But this is real life, not TV. It could take years to undue the damage Mommie Dearest inflicted upon him. And there are wounds which may never heal. She is a horrible mother.

Anonymous said...

I was interested in watching The Act. I decided not to watch it after reading Gypsys reaction. She said that the show is so sensationalized that it no longer reflects what actually happened. Her mother’s family has also said similar things. Gypsy is working to bring awareness to munchhausen by proxy. She is also working on a way to tell her story.

Andrea

Formerly Duped said...

Another good murder series is Killing Eve on BBC America.I love a good murder too- not gruesome horror movies but true crime or a well-done thriller. I love the tips I get here of all places! "You" was also good.

Ingrid said...

I watched a documentary on Gypsy Rose on the ID channel last year. Called Gypsy's Revenge.
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/gypsys-revenge/
You can watch for free if you have one of the providers that come up on the list when you sign in.

I would rather watch that than some movie 'based on' her life.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I was interested in watching The Act. I decided not to watch it after reading Gypsys reaction. She said that the show is so sensationalized that it no longer reflects what actually happened. Her mother’s family has also said similar things. Gypsy is working to bring awareness to munchhausen by proxy. She is also working on a way to tell her story.

Andrea

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Gypsy hasn't even seen it. They don't have Hulu in prison. I think she's mad that they didn't give her a cut. If she watched it she might be pleased.

I've seen HBO's documentary and at least two interviews with Gypsy herself. In watching it, I haven't seen anything that strayed away from Gypsy's own story in her own words. And so far, it is an extremely sympathetic portrayal of Gypsy. There is no doubt that the writer wants the viewer to feel so sympathetic of Gypsy that the viewer is prepared to forgive the murder. Gypsy should be happy with that portrayal!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I would rather watch that than some movie 'based on' her life.

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Or watch both as I did. Not understanding the aversion to it. Many movies are real life stories. All I can say is the acting is incredible, the movie has not strayed from anything I have ever seen about what happened, and if it brings any kind of awareness to psychological child abuse, which tends not to get as much attention as physical, I'm all for it.

Ingrid said...

I might watch when I get a chance then. I thought maybe it was more fictional.

Anonymous said...

To everyone asking about Milo and her disappearance, I was just on Instagram checking on some things and her name popped up as being active 4 hours ago. It is Tuesday the 23rd of April. Just reporting what I saw for anyone interested. Kylie

NJGal51 said...

Anonymous - Are you sure it was the right Milo (miloandjack2016 & fFired Up 4 Kate @miloandjack)? I follow her on both IG and twitter and don’t see any activity since June of 2018. I also don’t see her “liking” any posts. Where did you see her pop up?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I might watch when I get a chance then. I thought maybe it was more fictional.

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I'm pretty familiar with the story and I don't see any obvious factual problems with their rendition of it. Some things they even re-create, like the video of mom asking Gypsy to touch her cranium when Gypsy was a baby.

It's worth it for Patricia Arquitte. She is a revelation.

Kylie said...

NJ Gal. Yes it was Milo and Jack 2016. I saw it in a list of friends and others I follow and it was current and said active 4 hours ago. Possibly she was reading instead of posting IDK

Anonymous said...

Dmasy -- signed up for Hulu this afternoon. Looking forward to some evening hours watching The Act.

Flimsy, thanks for your concern. Sometimes hubby worries about my "dark" side. He teases that he fears for his welfare.

Like Formerly Duped I do avoid the gruesome/torture stories. The forensics of the true crimes just fascinate me. It is a bit too late in life to know exactly what career I would choose if I could begin again.

Anonymous said...

Gypsy was part of the Act project at the beginning. She did not agree with the direction the show was going. She pulled out. She has said many great things about the acting.

Dee Dees family also criticizes The Act. They said that the show makes it look Dee Dee was declining mentally. They say she was not declining mentally. She was sharp and knew what she was doing to the end.

Andrea

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Gypsy was part of the Act project at the beginning. She did not agree with the direction the show was going. She pulled out. She has said many great things about the acting.

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I can't find any articles explaining what it was about the direction Gypsy didn't like. I can only find interviews where Gypsy says she hasn't seen the show but doesn't like that they made the show without her consent. Since the direction seems so very favorable to Gypsy, I'm wondering what it was that was so off putting to the girl. After all they easily could have made a documentary portraying her as a cold blooded killer. That's not the case.

Theory, I think Gypsy is more upset about her stepmom than the show, and any complaints she has are really stemming from her feelings about her stepmom.

As far as Dee Dee, the relatives may very well be right about that. After all in order to pull of what she did, she would have had to have been sharp as a tack. Parents like these are often a deadly combination of smart and manipulative. Heck, almost like many narcissists.

I like that the show implied that Dee Dee killed her mom, because the relatives say they really think she did, though could never prove it. The show def went there, which was bold.

Layla said...

DH and I spent a few days in PA this past week, and had lunch with the real estate agent we were working with before (we should be back to house hunting in a couple years). She was giving us some advice on what NOT to buy. We want some acreage, but she said to limit it to 2-5 acres if we're not planning on farming. The reason for that is apparently a decline in demand for "gentleman's farms" or "vanity farms" as she called them. A vanity farm is a big house on a lot of unused acreage. The land isn't set up for farming or any kind of production, it's just there to look...big. The property taxes are high, the maintenance costs are high, and when someone tries to sell one of them, they tend to sit on the market for years and sell fairly low. She was listing off the costs of upkeep--mowing, weeding, edging, leaf removal, mulching, planting, trimming of trees and bushes, repainting and repairing fencing and outbuildings--all of those are too much for the homeowners to handle on their own and require outside help, with no return on investment.

We were discussing the G house here, and that's exactly what they have--a vanity farm. None of the land is developed for anything useful. It's just a huge money suck and apparently buyers are shying away from them because of the financial burden that comes with them. I can only imagine what the upkeep is costing the kids. Their trusts would have to be huge to maintain that property and cover the costs of private school and college for all of them. Plus there's a substantial mortgage. Kate's reality TV career seems to be coming to an end, and I have no doubt she'll help herself to the kids' money to make ends meet. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see how the kids are going to pay for all that.

Formerly Duped said...

Good luck finding a nice home and property, Layla. Will this be when all your kids are out in college or on their own?

Agree- all Kate had was the chickens and they are gone. She has a deal with her neighbor Forrest for, what, plowing or something? She made a feeble attempt at a 'vege' garden. The kids are too big for the crooked houses.What does she need "all mine" for if her funds are dwindling? There really must be a lot of maintenance on her land.And she was never "outdoorish."

Ingrid said...

Perhaps she tried the chickens and Forest's work on her land to try to claim agricultural property tax instead of residential?
I think she wanted that big of a place 1. to keep up
with her friend (Beth or Carla?) 2. To just be a show off 3. to have a large area of land around to be able to keep Paps and nosey/concerned folks farthere away. She wouldn't want a place where everyone could see what she does to the kids or hear her shrieks. Not just normal privacy but hiding how she treated them.

Layla said...

Formerly Duped (73)
Most of the kids will be out of college in 2-3 years, so we will be looking for a house in PA (which will eventually be our retirement house) then. We were looking before, but there have been loads of extra college expenses, plus we are helping put my nephew through college. We had to put off our house hunt for a few years to pay for all that, but
we'll be back to looking soon. The DC suburbs are so crowded and noisy--it can get to you after awhile. Especially if you grew up in the Midwest, like I did. I need space!

I think she once had an agreement with her neighbor to plow her driveway, but then she bought a snow blower and does it herself. Maybe there was a disagreement of some kind? I sure wouldn't want to have to clear that huge driveway in the cold by myself. Of course, by now I'm sure the kids have to do it. As for the 'vege' garden, it didn't look like she grew much more than a few peppers. Hardly worth the effort.

I don't know if her funds are dwindling, but she's wasting what she has left as fast as she can. The paps are gone, the kids will all be gone soon, and she'll be knocking around there all by herself. I just don't see the kids being excited about spending time in Wernersville once they're on their own. Just the burden of cleaning that huge house and dealing with snow removal on her own will make her want a condo on the beach somewhere.

Layla said...

Ingrid (74)
I'm sure she did try to claim the land as a farm to get a tax break, but she never follows through on anything once there's actual work involved. I doubt that went very far.

I always thought she was trying to keep up with Beth, who had a gorgeous house. Beth's former house is now on the market, and it is impressive. It's on Grange Road in Leesport, PA. Lots of pictures online. The price of it has dropped by $375,000 since it was listed, and it's been on the market for months, so I believe what our real estate agent/friend told us about those kinds of properties. People seem to be going in a more practical direction. The days of McMansions may be over.

All the G kids will be out of the house in about 4 years, and after college I suspect they will be off to greener pastures.

BlueJay said...

Layla, good luck finding a house. Boy that made me tired just reading all that with an upkeep of a house like that. I didn't consider that with a house like Kate has bought. I knew about the basics of it but my goodness.

My husband I have always lived in the suburbs so I've never had to think about houses like that and what it's going to cost anyone who lives in those big houses with land like that. Sounds indeed though as I did consider Kate's bought a money pit for pure vanity reasons though. Those poor kids. I'm going to feel sorry come their 18th birthday and college and all that. So sad. In a way I'm sort of looking forward to June and after, as I suspect her reality show ill just crash and burn.

I hope you find a reasonable house though. Me I just look forward to tending my little flower patch. Our neighbors keep bees and they bring us honey, but I'm not brave enough for that. My husband said a few weeks ago bees specifically don't like him because he's blonde (I snicker because I'm not so sure it's true but that's his story).

I didn't know Kate got rid of her chickens. I know there was an episode she bought them and told the kids they'd never seen that...sliding thing it would never be seen clean again. I've never owned chicken so I don't know anything about raising them or their upkeep so I apologize. I wonder now if she still even bothers to upkeep her organic lifestyle now though without the filming of it. Certainly without the organic chickens around apparently if that's the case.

Formerly Duped said...

Wasn't the latest Halloween episode filmed in the barn where the chickens were kept in the winter? Kate was shrieking about seeing poop and Jamie was there when they set up a haunted house in it.Something was said about they didn't have the chickens anymore IIRC. I may be wrong. But it was Collin who was the main chicken carer so...

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Wow, I just looked up Beth's house (I think), & it really is a mansion. I can't believe how little they're asking for it. .

Location, location as they always say. For that price here, it would get you a little old house on a 33 ft lot!

Formerly Duped said...

Layla, how great of you and your husband to help with your nephew's education , and with a big family of your own.Very unlike 'someone' we know of !

Sad but true said...

BlueJay said... 77
I didn't know Kate got rid of her chickens.
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The chickens left right after Collin did. So I guess we can conclude that he was largely responsible for them.

K8's mortgage is due for a balloon payment early next year, right? Way back when her refi was discussed here, I thought she had a 10-year low rate with an adjustment thereafter. IIRC, she refi'd in early 2010, so it's getting close to that time. Wonder if she'll be putting it on the market before then. She may be forced to.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The price of it has dropped by $375,000 since it was listed, and it's been on the market for months, so I believe what our real estate agent/friend told us about those kinds of properties. People seem to be going in a more practical direction. The days of McMansions may be over.


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I don't know where to see the details of this but that really is a good reminder to think carefully about investing in a house of this magnitude and the hardship of trying to resell it someday. You are really narrowing the pool of sellers to a very specific group of people--immense wealth and ability to upkeep a property of this side. You're not just buying the house, you're buying the upkeep, the workers necessary to keep up with it. The landscaping, the cleaning, the maintenance. Most of these tasks are beyond the average person's time and ability for a property like hers.

You really can't go wrong with a more modest and practical property, your standard 3 bedroom/2 bath under 2000 square feet will sell every time. If you ever get in a pinch, you can always do most of the maintenance and upkeep yourself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That reminds me of some recent episodes of Million Dollar Listing I've seen on Bravo, which is one of the better shows because at least it's about people who have legitimate jobs selling real estate. These days, even in a place like NYC, they really struggle to sell the multi million dollar vanity projects. Something more modest by those standards in the 1-10 million range will fly off the shelf. But anything more than that is a pain.

Layla said...

Admin (82)
You can see the details on Beth's former house on Zillow. The address is 1081 Grange Rd, Leesport, PA. It shows the original price, the reduction, the number of days on the market, and lots of pictures of the house and property.

We'll definitely be looking for 2-5 acres when we buy in PA. DH loves working in the yard--it's his pride and joy. He'd love to have more space to work with, but not so much that he can't do it himself. Can you imagine trying to tackle leaf removal on a property like Kate's, or clearing that driveway after a heavy snow? No thanks!

Formerly Duped said...

Anonymous said... 69

Dmasy -- signed up for Hulu this afternoon. Looking forward to some evening hours watching The Act.


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I have followed that sad story for a while on documentaries, YouTube etc and didn't realize The Act was based on the case! I too signed up for Hulu and can't wait to watch it!


(When I was a pediatric nurse we had a patient with a Munchhausen mom- she adopted a child with congenital issues- so have been fascinated with the phenomenon for years)

foxy said...

I just took a peek at Beth's house. 8,000 sq feet. It is something only Kate could dream about. It still wouldn't be grand enough for her though. I got dizzy just thinking about the upkeep, not to mention taxes and mortgage. It is a beautiful property.

Layla said...

foxy (86)
Kate could never afford a house like the one Beth had, and Kate's house/property cannot compare to what Beth had. I think Kate's house was a starter house to her--she only settled for that one because she wanted to move immediately and it was available and it had an apartment over the garage for Jon. I think she planned to upgrade at some point, and probably buy a beach house, too. She thought she'd be filming until the kids all left for college, and I'm sure she thought they'd still be filming 40+ episodes a year until that time. She couldn't have imagined that things would turn out the way they did. Karma caught up with her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The reason for that is apparently a decline in demand for "gentleman's farms" or "vanity farms" as she called them. A vanity farm is a big house on a lot of unused acreage. The land isn't set up for farming or any kind of production, it's just there to look...big. The property taxes are high, the maintenance costs are high, and when someone tries to sell one of them, they tend to sit on the market for years and sell fairly low. She was listing off the costs of upkeep--mowing, weeding, edging, leaf removal, mulching, planting, trimming of trees and bushes, repainting and repairing fencing and outbuildings--all of those are too much for the homeowners to handle on their own and require outside help, with no return on investment.

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Real estate trends are interesting. I definitely remember the days where the "thing" to have was a lot of acreage, even if there was no point to it. That was falling out of favor even as Kate was buying this monstrosity, and I remember discussions here going back years about concerns about picking that particular property for that reason and others.

It's not hard to predict where the market is going now. A lot of people are a lot more interested in sustainability, reducing their carbon footprint, and minimalism. They want less actual house but the smaller property to do more. Wired as a smart home, alternative energy available, electric charging station. Millennials are slowing entering into home ownership though much longer after most of their parents ever did, and I just can't see her property having any appeal to that crowd.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh on another note Kate really didn't maintain some of her property and look what happened. In particular the barn, they go in and there's an infestation going no there.

Well yeah, that's what happens when a building just sits there and nobody does anything. And to SELL that property, buyers are going to want problems like that addressed first.

Formerly Duped said...

There is also the tiny house trend and minimalism to the max, lol. People own only 20 items and 2 outfits and live in a very small space, cycle to work and use the gym to shower.

Anonymous said...

That older house must be torture to maintain. I've thought about the constant problems arising when her water heater broke and flooded the floor years ago. It is one break down after another I'm sure. And her yard....think weeds, vines trying to overtake her shrubbery. She has no one to say ...I'll handle it.
She's on her own. I truly believe she thought TLC would continue to take care of the house and property indefinitely. Good luck Kate. Enjoy your "mine all mine" property.

M.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 89
Oh on another note Kate really didn't maintain some of her property and look what happened. In particular the barn, they go in and there's an infestation going no there.
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There are plenty of signs that Kate is not keeping the house up, too. The hideous paint colors, the ratty carpet, the half-redone wood floors, and even she has talked about the ugly, outdated curtains. Why would she just let those things go when the house could look so much better? Especially those wood floors. Who starts replacing their wood floors with a completely different flooring, then stops and leaves it looking so mismatched and tacky? Is it a money issue? I suspect it is, because I can't think of any other reason to do something like that.

Our real estate agent also mentioned the trend toward smaller spaces, lower carbon footprints, and better use of space. She said people are wanting areas for vegetable gardens in their yards again, and some mentioned growing microgreens in their basements. We're trending back to practicality and usefulness, and I think that's a good thing.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There is also the tiny house trend and minimalism to the max, lol. People own only 20 items and 2 outfits and live in a very small space, cycle to work and use the gym to shower.


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I know! I find this so fascinating. It's crazy how little people can live on. They are so resourceful and inspiring. Though I draw the line at a composting toilet.

Kate is always behind the trend. Even smaller families is the trend now. One child, two max. People don't want to watch shows about lifestyles of the rich and famous or families going on trips. They want to watch shows about how people live mortgage free.

For my part I'm not quite ready to adopt that level of lifestyle, but we have been experimenting with doing a lot more national/state/local parks trips, which mainly involve camping and hiking and not really spending much. Something like Disneyland just isn't of interest at the moment, and I'm certainly saving a lot of money for it. If I'm going to watch vacations on TV I would rather watch someone on TV backcountry travel on a dime, versus an exotic vacation.

foxy said...

Years ago the travel channel had shows where people visited interesting places on very little money and being around the people who live there. Those shows were always so interesting and educational. I would not want a house the size of Kate's. Cleaning, utilities, repairs, taxes, insurance, and all the things that go along with it. Even with hired help you have to hope they show up. I couldn't live in a tiny house either. I am too nervous around closed spaces.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Years ago the travel channel had shows where people visited interesting places on very little money and being around the people who live there.

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Remember Lonely Planet's TV series? Oh my gosh I loved their series. They would go to countries you wouldn't think to go and find neat places and show you how to see them for a song and off the beaten path. Their travel styles are still an inspiration for when I plan vacations. I really seek out the lesser known, less touristy but more authentic areas and rarely visit the top 5 or 6 sites for places one might find doing an internet search.

The books are still around and are very good guide books, still better than what you could find searching just on google.

Anonymous said...

Large houses also require lots of energy to heat and cool. I can’t imagine how much a house line Kates costs to heat in the winter.

I am one of the people who could live in a tiny home. I like my studio apartment. It’s enough space for my dog and myself. I also hate cleaning.

Andrea

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am one of the people who could live in a tiny home. I like my studio apartment. It’s enough space for my dog and myself. I also hate cleaning.

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The home I bought a year and a half ago is by no means a tiny home but it's not big either. A bit around 1,000 square feet even.

I remember at the time of purchase although being very happy with it, wishing I could have afforded something closer to 2000.

Now? The size seems PERFECT. I don't know what I would do with 2000 or more. There is plenty of space for everything with most closets having plenty of room to spare. There is room to put nearly all of my things away leaving nothing out. Now I think I could go even smaller. Maybe not tiny small, but I wouldn't want to go bigger that's for sure.

It's way more important to me I have a decent size yard for gatherings and dog play than the house itself is big. Funny how little we really need.

Layla said...

When DH and I bought our house (about 4000 sq ft), it seemed so big to me. We had always been in military housing, and I couldn't imagine what we'd do with all the extra space. 5 years later we were considering buying something larger because the boys were bigger and the house seemed too full. I'm glad we didn't move because several of them are grown and gone and I don't want to be alone in a huge, empty space someday. In 3 years there will only be DH, one child, and me! Hard to imagine. Of course, there's a grandchild on the way, and more will follow.

Speaking of my upcoming grandchild, we now know the gender, and I bet you all can guess whether it's a boy or a girl. There seems to be a trend in my family...

Formerly Duped said...

Boy! Congrats to you and your family, Grandma Layla!
That little one will be loved, as any baby should be and I am happy to hear all is well

ncgirl said...

They've announced the return dates for two shows about multiples on TLC, one in May and one in June. Guess Kate's show still comes on in June?

Layla said...

FormerlyDuped (100)

You're right, it's a boy! Gee, how did you guess? People keep asking me if I'm disappointed that it's not a girl, and the answer is--no! I have this whole "raising boys" thing figured out. Son #2, the soon-to-be dad, is already wondering how soon he can start teaching his own son to play lacrosse. I've finally decided that I'm going to be called Nana. This little guy is going to have grandmothers and great-grandmothers and step-grandmothers. Nana wasn't taken yet, so it's mine.

ncgirl (101)
No word about Kate Plus Date yet? I wondering if TLC is dreading this upcoming stink bomb of a show as much as the general public is.

jolie Jaquelyn said...

Congrats Layla, you'll love being Nana, I know I do!
This clip I had sent to me today ties into the topic - & I love it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6977671/Mother-freaks-sons-surprise-pregnancy-reveals-time.html

sandy said...

Today is college commit day. Wonder if she will announce where the twins are going with a People spread .

BarbG said...

I wonder if TFW will be going on a date to the Kentucky Derby this weekend. Yeah, I didn’t think so. Her glory days are over. Jamie was in PA last weekend. I wonder if she and TFW got together. I’m wondering if they had a falling out because TFW never “likes” or comments on any of Jamie’s IG posts and Jamie has posted a couple of cryptic things about friends not being friends, etc.

Layla said...

BarbG (105)

Kate won't go to the Kentucky Derby because she doesn't rate the red carpet treatment anymore. If she's not treated like a celeb and given a free trip and loads of freebies, then she can't be bothered to attend. Remember of the picture she posted of the last time she went? Standing alone, nobody paying attention to her. Too funny! She probably thought there would at least be a few pap pictures, but nobody bothered.

Jamie's husband died last year, right around the time they were filming the dating show. I think she was supposed to appear in that show, but it looks like Mady and Cara were the ones in it. We know that filming is the most important thing in the world to Kate, so did she cut Jamie out and replace her with M&C? Jamie probably needed some time to grieve, and Kate would have no patience with any delay in filming. It wouldn't be the first time Kate alienated a friend or family member in favor of filming.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Her glory days are over. Jamie was in PA last weekend. I wonder if she and TFW got together. I’m wondering if they had a falling out because TFW never “likes” or comments on any of Jamie’s IG posts and Jamie has posted a couple of cryptic things about friends not being friends, etc.


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And, that's about as juicy as things have gotten all last month. Oooo, a potential falling out between Kate and Jamie? Lol.

Ingrid said...

BarbG said... 105

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I don't think Kate even follows Jamie's IG either. I looked through her following list a couple times and didnt see her on it. Doesn't surprise me. She only wants friends she can use. I can't follow Jamie so don't know if she is still following Kate on IG.

NJGal51 said...

I think that Kate was following Jamie at one point. Strange if she stopped following her because Kate did go out to be with Jamie when her husband died. Jamie did send out a “happy birthday/love you” to Kate on her IG birthday post. Kate apparently stopped following Emily trust fund baby/wannabe actress for whatever reason. Emily is the one that babysat her kids and went on vacation with them at one point.

Anonymous said...


ncgirl (101)
No word about Kate Plus Date yet? I wondering if TLC is dreading this upcoming stink bomb of a show as much as the general public is.
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TLC said it would premiere in June. They did not specify a year.

Andrea

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Andrea (#110), tee hee! Meanwhile, there's another Duggar pregnancy: Joy-Anna and Austin are expecting baby #2. Seems like these folks will be drawing TLC paychecks for life.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

The ever-enterprising Pioneer Woman Ree Drummond has a new line of dog snacks at Purina. And then there's TFW, who has a yet-to-be scheduled series about people who get paid to date her, because no one seems to want to do it for free. Who's mediocre now?

Anonymous said...

. I think Kate's house was a starter house to her--she only settled for that one because she wanted to move immediately and it was available and it had an apartment over the garage for Jon.
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Yes, I think it was her intension to live in it a few years and move and upgrade to a much larger home. She hinted over and over that she and the kids were outgrowing the McMansion and that she preferred a warmer climate. I’m surprised they’ve stayed as long as they have. As a person who has OCD, that house is crammed with stuff. It’s obvious she doesn’t do any decluttering because it would help tremendously in freeing up extra space in the house.Kate claims to love throwing stuff out but it’s clear that she doesn’t do much of that at all in her free time.
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I think Kate was following Jamie at one point.

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I agree, because I’ve noticed that Kate has liked many of Jamie’s older posts but none of her newer ones. Jamie still follows Kate, but it doesn’t appear that Kate still does. Also I really have to give Jamie props for losing weight and getting into excellent shape. Her six pack looks amazing and she’s really put a lot of effort in it. Even though Jamie is grieving, she has had a great attitude and has been going on exciting trips with friends. Kate doesn’t appear to be one of them though.

Gigi Be

Sad but true said...

Just two weeks until the twins' graduation. I wonder how big a splash is being planned for that---People cover? Wall-to-wall tab stories? Big TLC-funded party? Big non-TLC-funded party? Bound to be interesting. And I wonder if Jon will be invited/allowed to attend the ceremony.

foxy said...

In order for Kate to sell the "kids" house ands move to a warmer climate she would need Jon's permission to move the kids out of state. That would never happen.

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 112
The ever-enterprising Pioneer Woman Ree Drummond has a new line of dog snacks at Purina. And then there's TFW, who has a yet-to-be scheduled series about people who get paid to date her, because no one seems to want to do it for free. Who's mediocre now?
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Ree has her own boutique hotel, a pizza place, a bakery/deli, a restaurant, her own line of bottled dips/sauces, a line of cookware, and is about to open an ice cream parlor and publish another cookbook. Her accomplishments are mind-boggling. And then there's Kate, sitting at home, wondering why she only has paid friends instead of real ones. Paid dates instead of real ones. Once the kids are grown, who will she have left? I can't imagine TLC will still be around. This dating show will be all the proof they need that she is not marketable.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think in Kate's head she fancies herself as someone who could or should be Ree Drummond. But I don't think Kate understands why she isn't.

There is no doubt in my mind Ree Drummond worked 12 hours a day or much more building and maintaining her empire. She also studied and practiced and studied and practiced some more. She worked at things she was weaker at until she got good and then real good. She has a wide circle of family and friends to support her, help out and build on everything she's accomplished. She also took care to make sure her personalty was generally friendly, funny, charming and likable, understanding if you don't even like the person, it's hard to maintain and grow that big following. She's not everyone's cup of tea, but I think on balance most people like her.

For awhile there I think Kate understood a lot of her following was built on hate and I think even was prepared to embrace that. And that's one way to do it, but I would say that usually, usually, it is very hard to maintain a loyal and consistent following based on hate. I don't think anyone of us here are left to much care what Kate does, we're here to see how it all pans out for the kids. The ones we actually like. You've got to have most people on your side to keep at something like this. At best she's a footnote now. That vile woman who was nasty to her husband and had sextuplets and a tv show and whatever happened to her? Quite a legacy.

NJGal51 said...

Sad but True @ 114 - Good questions all. So far there’s been no mention of graduation, festivities leading up to graduation, college application and/or acceptance. Mady hasn’t posted a selfie in over a month and it’s all quiet on the Gosselin front when it comes to the dating show. If the fake date show really is going to air in June I would think that there’d be a bit of promotion somewhere. Crickets.....

Formerly Duped said...

I'm not convinced Mady will be going to college. Not sure why- maybe because she said she did not enjoy school, Cara was the smart one and maybe she is hoping to be on the dating show...I hope she graduates from HS though!

Anonymous said...

Ree Drummond has built her brand and worked hard to expand it. Kate’s brand was built around being a mom to eight kids. She was given multiple opportunities to build her brand but she was too lazy to actually work. Coupon cabin is a good example. She could have blogged about how to coupon and about how she used coupon cabin to find coupons. She could have posted shopping lists with links to the coupons on the company site. Her blogs rarely talked about coupons. When she did, it was an afterthought.

Andrea

Sad but true said...

Anonymous said... 120

By the time Coupon Cabin latched on to K8 in late 2011, only a few weeks after her "finale" episode aired on TLC, where we heard her talk about working her fingers to the bone to support her kids, her lifestyle was way beyond what coupons could conceivably achieve or sustain. She was used to first-class treatment on every level and at every turn:

- She had full-time, live-in help with her house and kids (coupons? doubtful);
- She was trying to market herself as Marathon Momma in the tabloid press as she traveled around with The Bodyguard (oddly absent in her blogging and, most likely, NOT couponed);
- She was quite obviously desperately seeking other TV gigs, of which only Wife Swap resulted;
- She blogged about how, as the only licensed driver in her household of nine [10-11, with the help?], having three different vehicles to choose from was a budget-savvy choice;
- She converted her backyard pool from chlorine to salt-water, apparently WITHOUT a coupon (at least none that she disclosed); etc., etc.

It wasn't just that she had no credibility at this point in terms of couponing; she had no credibility as a "struggling" single mom of 8 either, which had been her entree into the coupon-blogger universe in the first place.

Coupon Cabin was, to put it bluntly, just plain stupid to have taken her on at this point and under these circumstances. She didn't talk about coupons because she couldn't. Her idea of coupons at this point was other people's (i.e., Coupon Cabin's) expense accounts. They finally worked this out after just under a year of a no-doubt substantial salary and myriad uncouponed expenses. Compared to TLC, I think they got off easy.

Formerly Duped said...

I agree about the coupons. The only time I felt her use of coupons was legitimate was when she had the shopping for ten episode and she showed her coupons, rain-checks and she was buying things on sale.That was when I was duped and thought she was managing costs efficiently and well when the tups napped and a neighbor sat with them. No credibility when they moved and she yelled at Jon for not buying a shower head with a coupon.Definitely none during the Coupon Cabin stint.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

New Radar story...Jon is DJ-ing a Cinco De Mayo bash at a Wyomissing Chili's tonight. I wonder if he'll bring H and C with him?

Former Lurker said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 123

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I happened to take a look at Jon's Instagram yesterday and I saw that he posted about today's gig:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-BhPxhr8H/

jongosselin1
Sunday May 5th 5-9pm in Wyomissing come celebrate Cinco de Mayo with me at Chili’s!!!

BlueJay said...

Doesn't Kate still run a blog of some kind with her kids or something like that online where she supposedly posted recipes of oh what was it...Menu Monday and things like that? Or is that now dead in the water, too?

I would hope all of her children go to college. I mean it is what most parents wish for their kids that said I know it's not for every child and it's their choice as an adult at 18. That also said it's all Kate did talk about and her sort of spin as to why she felt the need they "had" to do the show to get money so their kids could go to college or something along those lines to be able to support all 8 in general. I suspect if they don't or some don't go to college it would reflect badly back upon Kate personally someway or another perhaps.

Former Lurker said...

Also, Jon posted a few pics last weekend from the Phillies baseball game:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwzxQBZhqRu/

jongosselin1
Perfect seats!! Thank you Colleen @colleen.conrad122 and Gina great day with Jordan @jordanconrad24. Go Phillies!!!

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwz4l-ZB094/

jongosselin1

Amazing day with Colleen @colleen.conrad122 at the Phillies game. We got to see her daughter Jordan Conrad @jordanconrad24 today with her sisters at her sorority delta zeta Temple University for their Parent mixer at Citizens Bank Park. Great weather!! Great friends!!! Love Philly!!! Thank you to Dundore & Heister @dundoreheister for the amazing Hex Pies that everyone loved and raved about!!! All in all today was Bueno!!! 🤙🏼

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwz6RyDB124/

jongosselin1

Great day!!! ❤️

Former Lurker said...

Plus, Jon posted a few other pics earlier in April, around his birthday. It looks like he got a Peleton for his birthday:

April 1st:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvvBN_MFB7Y/

jongosselin1

It’s just another day, but those of you who did wish me a Happy bday thank you I do appreciate it. 🤙🏼 I love Colleen and my family and all my close friends well. Thank you with all of my heart!!!

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April 3rd:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvye5owFCEI/

jongosselin1

My 5am life!!! #peloton

Former Lurker said...

And, on April 7th he did two posts with pics of him, Colleen, and his nephew Jake out celebrating Jake's 21st birthday, (he mentioned in the comments that Jake's his nephew).

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv8Fn9HlHOy/

jongosselin1

Come celebrate Jakes 21st at Building 24 in Wyomissing, PA tonight!!!! Dj Image on the wheels of steel!! No cover!!!

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv8L474lZWO/

jongosselin1

Happy Birthday Jake!!! 21 OMG!! I’m old!!! I can’t believe we are 21 years apart!!! We all love you!!!

Layla said...

BlueJay (125)
Kate still has that site, but hasn't touched it in years. She doesn't like things require actual work.

Kate said (when she appeared on Bethenny) that she personally put most of the show's earnings away into a college fund for the kids, and that they WILL go to college. If there isn't enough for all the kids (including Collin and Hannah) to go to college, it's her fault. She's the one with access to that money, so if it's gone then she took it. If the show isn't providing enough to pay the bills, then she needs to get a real job rather than take the money from the kids. The twins are adults and the tups will be 15 on Friday. Her old excuse about babysitting costs being more than she'd make no longer applies. The kids have worked their entire childhoods and given up too much of their privacy. They deserve to be compensated.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Layla (#129), that babysitting excuse has been rubbish since the tups started going to school full time. And it was even more ridiculous when TFW proclaimed that being home one week and away the next was what "works best" for her family. During those "away" weeks, who exactly was taking care of her 8 kids overnight? What with her being a widow and all (RIP Jon)? Getting them up and dressed, breakfast, lunches prepared, driven to the bus stop, picked up later that day, homework supervised, dinner and bedtime, then sleeping over to do it all again the next day? Surely that expense was waaaay more than any few-afternoons-a-week childcare -- most of which could've probably been covered by other school moms if she hadn't deemed them too mediocre to socialize with.

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy (130),

The most ridiculous part of the "babysitters cost too much" excuse was the fact that, even after the show was cancelled and she was basically unemployed for almost 3 years, she still had a babysitter. I remember her saying during that time that she had a babysitter for 16 hours a week, and she also mentioned someone helping with cleaning either every week or every other week. If she couldn't work because babysitting was tooo expensive, then how did she justify having one while she wasn't working? The kids were already in school all day, and she still needed someone there to help her when they were home.

Of course, Kate always downplayed all the help she has. I read the comments and recaps about her complaining that she didn't have a babysitter. If that's true, then where did Andrea come from? She's such a liar.

Formerly Duped said...

..or the empty place with food at it, at the restaurant one time. Or someone clearing places another episode... on the trips...Ashley when she just couldn't cope. And helpers galore.

foxy said...

I wonder if she is soaking her feet to get ready for the foot massage on Sunday and the squealing of love for her when they make breakfast for her and serve it to her in bed or on the couch lying down. I wonder if she still has the dogs...no pics of them either.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Foxy (#133), remember when TFW said she thought Mother's Day should be once a month? There was never enough pampering for her.

Poor Schmoopy will be heartbroken if she has to celebrate Mother's Day on the actual day. Ms. Realest Reality prefers her holidays filmed in advance, with a paycheck at the end. And Friday is the tups' birthday. Will she try to even see H and C? And after more than 3 years, would she even be able to pick her teenage son out of a lineup?

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy (134)

She'll probably see Hannah, but not Collin. She was done with him the day she sent him away. Jon hasn't posted pictures of the kids in awhile, so I'm thinking they were both ordered to stop posting pictures of them. I doubt that there will be a filmed Mother's Day episode since Jon has two of the tups and he refused to sign for the rest of them to film.

I saw ads for Sweet Home Sextuplets (premiering May 28) and Outdaughtered (premiering June 11). The announcement of the premiers of both shows came out on April 30, well in advance of both. No mention of Kate Plus Date, which is also supposed to premier in June. Hmmm....I still think the show will air--why put the money into filming it if they don't plan to air it? But it may end up being like the last two seasons of K+8--they just won't put much effort into promoting it. I'm still shocked that they filmed a whole season of it, even though it's only 6 episodes. I really think this is the end of filming for Kate. This show will fail miserably. I just can't understand why anyone thought it might be worth filming at all. I'm also thinking she might not have made as much money from filming it as she did with K+8. The twins were in it, and they were adults when it was filmed. No more splitting 15% with 6 other siblings. Plus it's a new show, and it's lacking the most popular aspect of K+8--the tups. Kate would accept anything they threw her way just so she could film, but it just doesn't seem like it would be worthy of a big budget.

Layla said...

foxy (133)

She still has the dogs. We have family in the area, and they pass by the house frequently. They say two of the dogs are usually sitting in the driveway. Two dogs, not three.

Anonymous said...

This is the first time in three years that C will be home for mother’s day. Mother’s Day can be hard for people who have been abused by their mother.

Andrea

Formerly Duped said...

Andra, that's true. Or who have lost a mother. But hope Colleen can make it up a bit. Still I'm sure the day will set Collin to think about his mother. Sad. Hope he has some good memories.

Sad but true said...

Anonymous said... 137

My guess is, Collin will be very content to celebrate it with Colleen.

Anonymous said...


My guess is, Collin will be very content to celebrate it with Colleen.

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Colleen will never take the pain of rejection away. Collin can learn to live with the pain with the help of time and therapy. I know this from experience. Colleen can help feel the void but she will not be able to erase the damage Kate has done.

Andrea

Layla said...

Another new TLC show announced--this one is called Smothered and premiers June 9. No mention of Kate Plus Date.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

This long period of social media silence makes me think TFW is getting her narcissistic supply filled elsewhere. I'm so curious to see what, or if, she'll post tomorrow on the tups' birthday and then on Mother's Day.

Ingrid said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 142
This long period of social media silence makes me think TFW is getting her narcissistic supply filled elsewhere.

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Does anyone remember if she was unusually quiet during those 8 months she dated Jeff? (shuddering from the thought of her finding another sucker who would date her for a stretch.) I just don't remember.

foxy said...

Jon posted pictures of Hannah and Collin for their birthday and wished all 6 of them a happy 15th birthday. Hannah's looks have somewhat changed and Collin is getting very tall. They look so happy. I wonder if Kate will do the same.

Anonymous said...

This long period of social media silence makes me think TFW is getting her narcissistic supply filled elsewhere.
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Someone posted something from that website blindgossip a few months ago. The post read something like this ,reality star is currently rumored to be dating a married man. Prior to this, she was also rumored to be dating another married man (Steve) during her very public divorce.
Many guessed that this could have been Kate.

Gigi Be

Anonymous said...

Love the new birthday posts! C and H are getting so tall. Also someone asked Jon-

&&&&&@jongosselin They all should live with you? You all should write a book. Telling the truth about their life. Would I love to see how they turned out and what they had to deal with. Glad to see you in the picture!

Jongosselin@ &&&&&& it’s all in the works

-Gigi Be


NJGal51 said...

Jon has a birthday IG posted of him with Hannah and Collin. All three look very healthy and happy. Sounds like he height be seeing all the other kids this weekend (fingers crossed) for their birthday. Hannah and Collin look so grown up.

NJGal51 said...

&&&&&@jongosselin They all should live with you? You all should write a book. Telling the truth about their life. Would I love to see how they turned out and what they had to deal with. Glad to see you in the picture!

Jongosselin@ &&&&&& it’s all in the works
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Hmmmmmmm.....Jon getting custody of all the tups or writing a book? Maybe both.

Former Lurker said...

Jon's Instagram post (three pics):

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxR6_WtFwN0/

jongosselin1
Happy 15th Birthday Hannah, Collin, Alexis, Aaden, Joel and Leah!!!! Wow I can’t believe you are 15!!! Time is flying by!!! I love you all very much. I wish you the best day ever and I hope you enjoy your birthday celebrations today and this weekend!!! Love always, Dad

Sandylove said...

I am so happy for Collin that he finally gets to spend a birthday at HOME with his DAD and sister! They both look great. Should we wager bets on how long it will be before Kate posts her own syrupy and fake birthday greetings?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Radar just posted Jon's picture. C and H look terrific, and Jon seems to have lost a bit of weight (not to be shallow -- just something I happened to notice).

Seeing how tall H and C are, it made me think of one reason their mother has no use for them anymore: she can no longer steer them by their heads.

Former Lurker said...

Last month, I posted about the Discovery upfronts that were held in NYC on April 10th. As I mentioned, I found nothing about TFW being there even though she was there last April (for the announcement of the new Fake Date with Khate show, which was supposed to air that fall). Also, there was no mention at all of her show in any of the several articles I read.

I posted that I also had read that the final Discovery upfront was scheduled for April 24th in LA and maybe there would be something about her upcoming show then, especially since it was now supposed to premiere in June. I just wanted to let you all know that I've checked a few times in the last few weeks, and I haven't been able to find any articles about the April 24th upfronts.

Layla said...

NJGal51 (148) said...
&&&&&@jongosselin They all should live with you? You all should write a book. Telling the truth about their life. Would I love to see how they turned out and what they had to deal with. Glad to see you in the picture!

Jongosselin@ &&&&&& it’s all in the works
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Hmmmmmmm.....Jon getting custody of all the tups or writing a book? Maybe both.
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My thoughts, too. Book/custody/both? I do hope they all get to see Jon this weekend. Last we heard the 4 who live with Kate weren't speaking to him, but hopefully they've moved past it. H&C look great, and so grown up! So nice to see C looking happy.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sandylove (#150), I love it that Jon posted first. Poor Schmoopy's narrative has been pulled out from under her. She can no longer play her tiny doing-it-all-alone pity violin now that 25% of her children are living under their father's roof.

Knowing what we know about TFW, she must still be seething with rage about losing 2 kids to someone she seemed to see as nothing more than a sperm donor. After a decade of divorce, she still hates Jon more than she loves the kids.

capecodmama said...

Thanks for the link Former Lurker. They all look very happy.

capecodmama said...

Former Lurker....thanks for the link. They all look very happy. I’d love to see Jon get all the tups. I think they would thrive under his love and guidance. I have hopes for Cara that she’ll reconnect with her Dad. I think the ship has sailed with Mady.

Former Lurker said...

capecodmama, no problem.


Former Lurker said...

About the upcoming Fake Date with Khate show, I decided to see if there was any news on the Instagram of that "relationship expert", (Rachel Dealto), who's on the show. Well, in an IG post she did three days ago, I found this exchange in the comments:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxIb3BqAtAH/

triplejsandme

When is Kate’s dating show going to be on?


racheldealto

@triplejsandme June!

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I guess we'll see something about it soon. You would think TLC would start promoting it by now. We all know that TFW is too lazy and dumb to do her own promotion.

Former Lurker said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 151

Radar just posted Jon's picture. C and H look terrific, and Jon seems to have lost a bit of weight (not to be shallow -- just something I happened to notice).

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This was in the comments on Jon's IG post:

jem1984_
Oh wow you lost a lot of weight! You look good! @jongosselin1

jongosselin1
@jem1984_ thank you much appreciated, I’m 45lbs down going for 30 more!!!

misty33
Ok what is the weight loss secret @jongosselin1

jongosselin1
@misty33 it’s not a secret but will let you know by the end of this month

Anonymous said...

Today would be a good day for TLC to post the release date for fake date with Kate. If they don’t post it today then I would suspect that it’s been shelved.

Andrea

Former Lurker said...

The Daily Mail has an article about Jon's birthday IG post. At the end, it says TFW's new dating show will be premiering in the fall. It looks like the Daily Mail never updated their info from last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7015605/Jon-Kate-Plus-8-dad-Jon-Gosselin-wishes-sextuplets-happy-15th-birthday.html

ncgirl said...

Glad to see the picture of Jon, Collin, and Hannah. Hope the 6 have a good birthday despite their mother. It sounds like Jon has something going on. Maybe he's in a weight loss program? I would love for Jon to get commercials or write a book. Or custody.

"Should we wager bets on how long it will be before Kate posts her own syrupy and fake birthday greetings?"

She's going to have to post something with the birthday/Mother's Day. TFW owes her riches to the 6, and she's got to pretend to be the best mother ever. Maybe their birthday present will be Mommy's new man. lol


Layla said...

TLC has announced a new 90 Day Fiance spin-off, which is premiering June 3rd. The show was announced on May 6th. Looks like TLC is announcing new shows/premiers about a month in advance. So we now have announcements for Sweet Home Sextuplets, Outdaughtered, Smothered, and this 90-Day Fiance spin-off, all airing in June. Still no K+Date. I think she's not promoting it because she doesn't know when it's going to air.

Former Lurker said...

Layla (#163), I'd have to go back and check, but I'm pretty sure that when I posted last month about several articles I read regarding the Discovery Upfronts in NYC on April 10th, I mentioned that there were two spinoffs of the 90 Day Fiancé show in the articles.

Layla said...

A new season of Dr Pimple Popper has already been announced. It's premiering July 11.

Layla said...

Former Lurker (164)
I'm just reporting the announced premier dates of upcoming shows. These are shows beginning about the same time as K+Date, all have their premier dates announced, and yet there's no mention of K+Date. Heck, the new Dr Pimple Popper won't be for another 2 months, but they've announced the date.

Former Lurker said...

Layla, sorry, I wasn't trying to contradict you. : ) Your post about the premiere date just reminded me that I had read about the two spinoffs of 90 Day Fiancé for June and July and that there was still no mention of TFW's new show. I agree with you that it's not looking good for her show if no premiere date has been announced yet.

My post that I was referring to is up above at comment #22:

This Variety article lists some new TLC shows, including two spinoff shows from 90 Day Fiancé that premiere in June and July. There's no mention of Fake Date with Khate, but the article does say it's just "a sample of future (TLC) hits":

https://deadline.com/2019/04/discovery-unveils-2019-2020-programming-slate-new-series-1202592744/amp/

JR said...

I don’t get it... not a peep gushing about her little money makers birthday... I’m at a loss

I’m sure they had to can the show cause it was shit on a shingle .... I’ve said it before she cannot carry a show but let’s see what happens

Former Lurker said...

She just posted three pics of the four celebrating their birthday:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxTZt-6jhMY/

kateplusmy8
Our big celebration of #15 is finally winding down here! We celebrated ALL DAY LONG, beginning with a present at 6:30 am before school!😳 I’m so very thankful for my ‘babies’.... somehow they are 15 already?! I’m amazed by them each day! I’m so proud of the positive qualities I’ve seen developing as they edge closer to adulthood. It hasn’t been easy for them, especially over the last year and a half, but they continue to persevere, stay positive and make lemonade out of lemons (to the point where I’m pretty sure I’m allergic to lemons, but what’s a mom to do?!🤯) but no matter what, these kids keep on keeping on! Such good, wholesome, loving, insightful, wise humans and I’m just so proud to call them mine! I love you guys to the moon and back a hundred billion times x infinity😉! Happy 15th birthday! 🥰🥳🎂😘😍 #15 #Lemonade

FlimsyFlamsy said...

JR (#168), maybe today is TFW'S monthly spa day and she forgot all about their birthday. Remember how Beth told her self care made her a better mommy, and unwittingly created a monster? And then Beth was thanked for her love and attention with the patented Katie Irene curb-kickin'.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin, would it be possible to start a new thread with the pictures of Jon and the kids?

Sad but true said...

Here we go:

kateplusmy8
Our big celebration of #15 is finally winding down here! We celebrated ALL DAY LONG, beginning with a present at 6:30 am before school!😳 I’m so very thankful for my ‘babies’.... somehow they are 15 already?! I’m amazed by them each day! I’m so proud of the positive qualities I’ve seen developing as they edge closer to adulthood. It hasn’t been easy for them, especially over the last year and a half, but they continue to persevere, stay positive and make lemonade out of lemons (to the point where I’m pretty sure I’m allergic to lemons, but what’s a mom to do?!🤯) but no matter what, these kids keep on keeping on! Such good, wholesome, loving, insightful, wise humans and I’m just so proud to call them mine! I love you guys to the moon and back a hundred billion times x infinity😉! Happy 15th birthday! 🥰🥳🎂😘😍 #15 #Lemonade

Three photos of the four tups left with her. Quite a stack of presents, I wonder if Hannah and Collin got anything from her.

Former Lurker said...

I tried to post it earlier, but I don't think it went through. I see Sad but True posted it, though. Here's the link (three pics):

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxTZt-6jhMY/

There are a lot of comments asking where Hannah and Collin are, where's the missing two, etc. Plus, lots of discussion about how Jon now has custody of H and C, how TFW didn't show up in court last year for C's custody hearing, and how sad it is that the six aren't even together on their birthday.

One person said TFW deleted her comment about it. But, then I think so many comments about H and C not being there started coming in that TFW couldn't keep deleting.

The biggest criticism is that TFW failed to mention all six of them in her birthday post, while Jon did include all six in his IG post this morning. That's probably because in TFW's mind, they're gone. We know how she is with people she banishes from her life.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lol vintage Kate came out tonight! Everything from the kids are "Mine" (They're human beings and their own people and almost adults, not your possessions you cow), implying she's been celebrating with them all day long when normal 15 year olds would have gone off with their friends for the night, and for good measure a subtle dig at Jon. You see by Jon doing what he did, the past year and a half has been so tough on her kids. It's just so cruel what Jon did to them. She really is something else and never will change. She never will accept that it was because of HER, her refusal to co-parent like a grown-up for the good of the children, that she only has four kids left. Her show should be Four kids left and Counting.

ncgirl said...

I'm sure Jon is the lemon. Kate could've cut out the negative part, but that's Kate for you. Judging by the cake, her baking skills haven't improved. And she's just showing off with the presents even though the kids deserve them because they bought them. Note Jon had a positive message and didn't bring in the negativity like Mommy Dearest.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Note Jon had a positive message and didn't bring in the negativity like Mommy Dearest.

&&&

It's so petty and inappropriate and immature. Even giving her every benefit of the doubt let's say it's true, the kids really have been suffering for 18 months and it's all Jon's fault. It's still petty, inappropriate and immature to bring this up on social media to a bunch of strangers. Talk to your therapist, your best friend, your pastor, or the children's therapist. But it's just unsavory to bring everybody into your business. In the end the kids will not appreciate it, no matter how right she is or isn't. No kid likes their parent to tell their business.

Anonymous said...

Highly significant what Jon said in his Instagram (and what was missing from her's). He wished each of the six, by name, a Happy Birthday and expressed his love for them. She speaks of celebrating as a "family" with only two-thirds of of the 15 year olds.

bm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

They're good looking kids who looks just like their father.

Those smiles don't like genuine to me. I could be wrong. Also could just be it's embarrassing at 15 to pose for a cake picture. Who knows.

The way you make lemonade out of lemons is reconcile with their father. That is not on her kids to fix, it's on her. She has done and will continue to do permanent damage to the kids for this. Life long damage. They'll be processing this alienation and coming to their own conclusions twenty years from now. If she thinks she's going to come out smelling like roses after they come to terms with all the choices she made when it came to their father and siblings, she's dreaming.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#174), we've often heard how hard TFW has had things, because everything is "times 8." Well, over the next few years -- or perhaps decades for someone as brainwashed as Mady -- there are going to be realizations of how their mother stole their childhoods, and kept them from their father for years. TIMES 8.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well, over the next few years -- or perhaps decades for someone as brainwashed as Mady -- there are going to be realizations of how their mother stole their childhoods, and kept them from their father for years. TIMES 8.

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Here is where they will have great advantage in having eight. As one or two begin to process these feelings, they'll talk to the others. Seeds will be planting for others perhaps more quickly than they would have if left to think on their childhoods on their own. Eventually there is strength in numbers and a contingent could form. There is great strength and power in a group rather than just you or one or two siblings. As Kate gets older and older, they're going to have the upper hand at last, and she might not like the decisions they'll eventually be making when it comes to her and even for her.

I think even Mady is going to reach the same conclusions her siblings are starting to, as she matures. You would have to be a very, very dense adult to not realize there are some real defects in their upbringing. You'd basically have to be a sheeple.

Interesting said...

I checked out the Kate plus 8 FB page, and it has nothing about it being the tups birthday. It also made no mention of Kate's birthday back in March.

Seems like TLC is using that page more to promote it's other shows.

Layla said...

Reading her comments about how difficult things have been since Hannah left, you have to appreciate how bad things were in her house for H to break away--and stay away. She made the other kids shun Hannah for wanting to leave, physically hurt her (the car incident when H had to go to the hospital), and I'm sure tried to bully H and shame her to keep her from leaving. H had to break away from all her siblings and go off on her own. It's so telling that she didn't just give up--just due to missing her siblings--and go back home. Life with Kate must have been terrible for her. Probably for all of them. Maybe Kate has straightened up and started treating the rest of them better so the remaining kids won't leave. At least, I hope so.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Does anyone know what kate means by".It hasn’t been easy for them, especially over the last year and a half?"I don't know if its a snag at Hannah for being with Jon considering thats how long Hannah has been with jon.Then again she could just be referring to something us and im looking to deeply into it.I must say im surprise she didn't just post a picture of a cake and gave the impression that all kids were there.

Layla said...

On a positive note, Joel finally got braces!

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Well now we know the bird is still alive, but what about the three dogs?

NJGal51 said...

Rather than just sending out a happy birthday to ALL the tups (like Jon did) TFW just couldn’t resist getting in a dig at Jon. She really is a piece of work. She just had to show the pile of presents that they started the day with (at 6:30 no less) and talk about the all day celebration that is finally winding down. I guess Zorro helped to celebrate since he’s perched on one the kids. Is it just me or does Hannah look much more mature than the other girls? I guess that’s what happens when you’re allowed to grow and be an individual. I wonder what she’s said to brainwash the remaining tups against Jon. The ones t6hat went to visit him always looked so happy and relaxed when they were with him. Collin must be swimming in lemonade after all the lemons she threw at him! At least Mady remembered that there are 6 of them and sent out a happy birthday to all 6.

NJGal51 said...

Jon just posted a my story of Hannah thanking everyone for the birthday wishes and said that she and Collin (who has gone to bed) appreciated them. She was there with her best friend.

Sandylove said...

Didn't I call it? "Syrupy" (insert eyeroll). Anyone notice the bird on Alexis' head?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#178), and TFW's grandma fantasies may not live up to her expectations if one or more of the kids decide never to let their children near her. Think of how chilling that diary passage about beating C was. Now imagine ever leaving your baby in her care.

And I don't think she's mellowed or changed in any way since then. If anything, her continued rage towards her ex, and her steadfast refusal to co-parent with him, seem to indicate a decline in emotional and mental wellbeing. Or as the kids today would say, she's still crazy AF.

Sandylove said...

Did anyone see the short Insta story Hannah posted on Jon's page, thanking everyone for the birthday wishes? She said Collin appreciated it too. She looked mature, poised and looks like she was doing very well. So suck it Kate.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

bm (#175), good point about TFW's omission of the names. It's Olympic-level gaslighting for her to try to pretend all 6 kids were with her, but I think she gave it her best shot. Or else she knows the world knows she has only 4 of the tups, but, ya know, it's all good because they celebrated "ALL DAY LONG."

How sad to realize your absence, even on your birthday, means nothing to your mother. C may have gotten uses to it, but it might be a fresh hell for H.

Anonymous said...

My observation between Jon vs Kate’s posts: Jon- no gifts, but lots of evidence of Jon’s love and pride for his kids, even for the ones not shown. ( H and C more than likely got gifts also, but the point is Jon doesn’t go out of the way to show off) Jon probably teaches C and H that there is more to life than having lots of material objects.

As I suspected, Kate had to show off how GREAT she was by piling on the gifts and celebrating ALL DAY. It’s probably a bribe to keep the remaining 4 with her. Kate’s post was full of resentment and underlying anger as she kept going on about lemons. I always thought her materialistic side shows just how insecure she really is inside.Kate must be furious that H and C found happiness without her.She should work on promoting peace and forgiveness .It’s the best gift she can give them, but this won’t happen.

Gigi Be

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Even her I love youse are so over-the-top ridiculous. We get it Kate, no one loves them as much as you do the holy virgin mother. You love them more than Jon does, understood.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#193), hah, I was just about to make the same comment! She expresses things in such a juvenile way. She loves them a billion times infinity? That's something a 5-year-old might say about their favorite pet or TV show.

Jamesvader1194 (#183), I assume she's talking about H being gone, and the attendant drama surrounding that. But that comment alone outed her utter indifference to C's extended absence. Wouldn't the whole family -- and most especially C's brothers -- have had a hard time for that entire 3-year period? I once wondered whether J and A were allowed to talk about those feelings of sadness and loss of their wombmate/roommate. But I think Mommie Dearest just answered that question. It's all about her. Always has been, always will be.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#187), after all her years as "the leader, and Mommy's helper," imagine how wonderful it must feel for H to simply be able to spend time with a best friend on her birthday. Meanwhile, her poor sisters L and A were stuck "partying" at Ms. Gosselin's Home for Exploited Children with a mountain of gifts, a narcissist and a bird.

Sad but true said...

Flimsy, I am LMAO at "Olympic-level gaslighting"! That captures it completely. Maybe there should be a game show for expired reality "stars" on exactly this topic. They can call it "Who Did It Best?"

foxy said...

I wonder if Jon and Hannah and Collin will be able to attend the graduation of Cara and Maddy or if the lovely Ms. Katie will somehow have them blocked. What a shame if she does that. Although she doesn't have much clout anymore.

NJGal51 said...

I was looking at TFW’s posts from her birthday and the tups’ birthday and TFW got two cakes whereas the tups only got one. What’s up with that? And why did she hashtag lemonade? If you click on the #lemonade it has nothing to do with anything that she whined (wined?) about. We get it, Jon rose from the dead, stole two of the kids and has been holding them against their will for a year and a half. You still hate Jon more than you love your kids and will even use your birthday post to them to project your feelings onto them. One thing I noticed while scrolling through the comments, Jon takes the time to acknowledge many of the posters and for the most part, TFW ignores them. Also, there are very few negative comments on Jon’s timeline and very few people asking where the other kids are. Maybe it’s because he acknowledged ALL of them BY NAME in his post and TFW didn’t. A lot of the comments on TFW’s timeline are asking where the other two are. Other posters answer (many still think Collin is in an institution) and then the posters fight among themselves.

Formerly Duped said...

Wow. Kate did not even mention H and C by name- Jon mentioned all six. These are cute kids but for some reason they look 'younger' than H and C. I hope they are happy, but they must be aching for their siblings and dad.Wonder if H will see Kate for Mother's Day?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#196), when it comes to chutzpah, no one can top TFW! This is a woman who had the cojones to appear on Celebrity Wife Swap and didn't even have a husband.

Meanwhile, looks like Schmoopy's birthday greeting to the tups didn't make it to Radar, but Jon's did. Guess she was a day late and 2 tups short.

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