Saturday, April 15, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "Sweet 16": Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

Coming up on Kate Plus 8. Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

They show a lot of sweet photos and clips of the girls growing up, some I don't remember seeing before. You would almost be fooled into thinking this is a nice family with twins with no screaming and hollering going on. This is a time for Kate to reflect all about herself.  Ultimately Kate doesn't worry about the twins because she knows they will make good decisions. Kind of like their decision not to see their father?

Kate gives the girls Gator driving lessons. Wait, I swear the kids were driving the Gator a year ago when they first got this. Now they get lessons?

Like so many other teens I've encountered these days, oddly, Mady doesn't really care much about getting her license. Kind of a, I'll get it when I get it attitude. She doesn't go anywhere really except school and home. Sad.

My theory on this, and it's totally a theory, is that kids today are so much better connected with their peers than we were as kids, and therefore, don't feel that compelling drive (I can make dumb puns too just like Kate) to get behind the wheel and hit the road. We had to learn to drive, because there was no texting or iPhones, and when we called Ashley's house on the good ole fashioned telephone, we either got the answering machine, or were told by her slightly annoyed mother, sorry she can't talk now she's doing her homework/at scouts/at soccer/practicing the trumpet/being punished. I never met a teen in my class who wasn't gunning to drive. We had to get going behind the wheel to drive to each other or risk never connecting with each other again outside the hours of 7:30am to 2:30pm. A 2017 kid can text Ashley, FaceTime, instagram and snapchat her, and get instant feedback from Ashley, and therefore doesn't feel as compelled to get in the car and drive somewhere to meet up with Ashley. The need teens have is simply to connect to peers and exchange feedback. It's clear that connection doesn't have to be in person just so long as they're getting a lot of it and it's instant. I like my theory, personally.

What does "over-start" the gator mean? I don't understand over-start. This has to be fake, Mady driving into the plants. Or Mady is driving erratically purposely for attention.

Cara says the most she has said all season, in that she actually used to think she would like to get her license because she would like to be able to drive herself over to Lancaster (where their school is) for lacrosse and such, but then she found out that apparently, she is not going to ever be allowed to drive that far. Forbidden by Kate, presumably. And therein lies one of the stupidest reasons ever to send them to a private school so far away. It's too far. So many of us warned that this commute was going to be a beast, especially when they got older and had to get themselves to school more often and for longer days and establish a group of friends over on that side of town that they want to see outside of school or even sometimes have to see, for school projects and study groups. And there it is. And sadly, Cara is losing out on valuable practice time behind the wheel while she is still under an adult's supervision. Practice time that is crucial and can be the difference between a teen ending up in a horrific accident before they are 20, or getting through the most dangerous years on the road unscathed. A public school or even a private school five to ten miles away would be close enough to make most parents comfortable with their child driving that distance, while still giving them practice time on the road. A shame.

I really don't know how much value a driving lesson on a Gator is to driving a real car in real traffic. They'll be ready to whiz around their retirement neighborhood in Florida someday, but little else.

Moving on to planning the party, Kate and Mady fight endlessly over ideas they're looking at on their MacBooks. Looks like Pinterest. Mady hates all of Kate's ideas for the party. In this case, since we know Kate has no style or taste, I'm thinking we have nothing to lose leaving this to Mady. Kate keeps trying to micromanage this, while Mady obviously would prefer to make the calls and is proud to plan it herself. Mady is sixteen years old. At this age, couldn't her mother just give her a budget to spend, a couple hundred bucks or whatever, and let her do this on her own? Mady wants to, she gets enjoyment out of party planning, and it's good for a child this age to take on such a major responsibility. And if Mady slips up and forget something important like the forks, then so be it. That's part of learning how to plan things responsibly, a life skill.

Three days before the party they're meeting with a baker about the cake? That's cutting it awfully close. I don't buy that. This episode feels more staged than usual.

Cara is really resisting helping to plan, won't give an opinion on anything, and doesn't even really want a party. She sounds self-conscious and reserved, easily embarrassed, which is normal for many teens that age. It's funny, because some teens like Mady want nothing but attention, to be the star of the high school play. Others want just the opposite, and would be mortified to have to go on stage or anything of the like. That was me, and I remember that feeling where you were embarrassed even to say you preferred chocolate cake over vanilla. God knows where that comes from but thankfully most teens outgrow it. It seems like teens are usually one extreme or the other. What doesn't make any sense is why a reserved teen would want anything to do with filming. My hunch is, she sure as hell doesn't and is being forced to comply, so she resists in any way she can, including refusing to say much on the couch or cooperate with things like party planning.

Mady has bullied her way into holding the reins here, which is what you have to do when your mother is Kate. Heh, I like how much it bothers Kate to have no say in things. Like watching someone who can't reach an itch in the middle of their back.

Another shopping trip to some kind of craft store. Kate says something like Mady wants to control things for the sake of controlling them, whatever that means. And doesn't that really more aptly describe Kate? This conversation about how Mady and Kate disagree over how to decorate for the party feels like it's going on hours. I can't anymore.

Finally they take two full carts of booty to the checkout for the company credit card, plus some Junior Mints. I always get flashbacks to that classic show Supermarket Sweep when I watch Kate shop on the company card. She tossed those Junior Mints into the cart like they are the special bonus item of the day worth $150. You should always focus on going after the bonus items and make sure to grind the coffee and get the frozen yogurt first. Don't be a fool wasting time on the turkeys, that's for chumps. Such a good show.



The day of the birthday, Kate is running around the house in a total panic. She starts taking out salmon for 20-30 salmon burgers and laments about how it's supposed to be foggy and rainy and this will ruin everything. Well, you planned a birthday party for the outdoors in Pennsylvania in October. Odds are the weather will stink. Why on earth didn't you have a Plan B you could easily turn to, like, I don't know, move the party to inside the house if the weather is bad? She really is a helpless twelve-year-old.

I'm kind of speechless at this next part because it's just so nuts on every level. Kate calls up her "friends" Chrissy and Todd. Remember them? They own the beef jerky place they agreed to be promoted on the sextuplets' birthday episode. Kate knows they have some kind of party room at their store, whatever that means, calls them up, and asks them if they could have the twins'  party at their store due to the weather. I think that's such an incredible thing to ask of someone at the last minute that I'm embarrassed. And remember, she's not just asking them to have 20-30 people over, but also to bring in a whole film crew to their store and film there. Wha? Why not just have it at the Mcmansion, inside? What's the point in buying a mansion like this if you don't have room indoors for a simple party of 20-30 people? Plus, hauling all the party crap they bought to a different location is a huge chore. Shaking my head.

And what are the odds that Chrissy and Todd just happened to be available that very afternoon to have 20-30 people over last minute? Don't most normal families with kids usually have plans over the holiday weekend? Like I said, this episode feels staged. I think all along they were going to have it at Chrissy and Todd's if it rained.

Kate quickly realizes a location change is a logistical nightmare. Of course it is. The kids are upset at how stressed out she is, as they should be. Even Mady, who sometimes can bring the drama, is like, what is the big freaking deal? We have a location now, the food is being cooked as we speak, it doesn't matter. Why on earth didn't she make the salmon the day before? That easily could have been done yesterday, it'll keep. Or pick some other food you can make the day before. Or heaven forbid order a bunch of pizzas and make it easy on yourself. Kate does this purposely I'm convinced, intentionally makes things as difficult as possible on herself. It's a martyr complex, maybe.

Ha, when Kate goes on about how she can't just show up at the party in work clothes and no makeup, Mady says no one is going to care if she's not there. Uh, actually, that's true. This is a party for 16-year-old girls, not their mothers. Nobody will notice whose mother is where or when. You just don't care at that age. Kate randomly launches into a bizarre rant looking straight into the camera, globs of sweat dotting her forehead, about how she does not have a nanny or housekeeper or hired help. Number one, yes you do, and it's all on film. Number two, grow up, Kate. If you don't have a nanny or housekeeper at the moment, get one. You can afford it. That's not our fault you allegedly don't have help that day for whatever reason. And she doesn't even need to pay people to not be so overwhelmed with this party. If one had friends and family, one could ask their best friends, their sister and sister-in-laws, their mother, and so on, to come on over. Something tells me the likes of women she has discarded like Beth and Jodi would have been all too happy to come over and help out today. And what about Jon? It's her choice not to get along with him for one day and put on a party together for the children they made together when they were once in love. Lots of divorced couples do this for their children all the time. Unfortunate.

Mady has to point out to Kate that a party is supposed to be fun. Making salmon burgers, party planning, picking up flowers, is all supposed to be fun. You might be confused who is the adult and who is the child here, but Kate is supposed to be the adult. There's so much yelling and whining about the stupidest things, I cannot even imagine growing up in this house. You know what's interesting is that over and over Kate has emphasized how she just wants this to be perfect on this special day which is why she's having a meltdown, and over and over Mady and even Cara have told her that it's okay. Maybe the twins didn't articulate it quite clearly so doofus could understand it, but I'm not getting the impression at all the twins are demanding this be "perfect." They just want to have a good time and be with their friends. Kate doesn't listen or pay attention to what her children are saying or what they really need. If she did, she would understand that what's far more important to the twins and all her children is that this day is chill and happy. "Perfect" is not what anybody else is after but doofus here. In fact if she would breathe for a second, she would realize that sometimes the most imperfect things make the best memories. The laugh you had when the icing stuck to the lid of the cake box, how muddy everyone got splashing in puddles when the party got rained on, the way Auntie's car wouldn't start when it was time to leave and she had to spend the night and you stayed up late with popcorn and a Disney movie with her. The best memories are often made in life's little hiccups and imperfections, aren't they?

I don't think it's unfair to say that Kate has ruined so many special things for her children like birthdays with her insanity, and this 16th birthday is no exception.

By the way, the house is incredibly cluttered. Random papers, bins, gadgets sitting out, all kinds of miscellaneous stuff. You couldn't even sit at the dining room table if you wanted to. It's always like this, not just before parties. You know, it's not a capital offense to be cluttered, but sometimes, it can contribute to a stressful household, especially if there is already so much stress there already. Everyone might feel a lot better if she would just put stuff away.

Kate thinks that Mady being so parentified by comforting her lunatic mother is "adorable." Oh, brother.

Where's Colin? Just saying.

So, back to the beef jerky change-up, how are they going to make sure 20-30 people know about this sudden location change? Who worked up the permits for this so fast, and what are the odds that the jerky place just happened to be totally available today on a holiday weekend? This is more fake than ever, not that this show isn't fake to begin with.

Nothing happens during this next part except a dress got steamed for a child who doesn't appreciate what a pain that is, and the twins call Kate "Mother" again. I love when they do that.


Kate says the younger children can't come to the party because there is not enough space in the venue. I don't have a problem with that. No teenager wants their kid brothers and sisters at their party. They can do a more intimate family party later and include the sextuplets. What I find hilarious, though, is that Kate just went on a tirade letting us know that contrary to popular belief she does not have a nanny! So who the heck stayed with the younger kids last minute while Kate and the twins were gone? They're a little young to be left by themselves all afternoon. If only to make sure someone is after them to do their homework and that no one burns the house down making grilled cheese.

Kate sure has a sudden group of old friends from various places like lamaze class of all things. Who are all these seemingly nice, down-to-earth people and their pretty daughters and why doesn't Kate contact them when she's feeling so overwhelmed to help her out? Does she not understand this is what a good girlfriend would be happy to do, help out their overwhelmed friend? Is she afraid if she asks for help she'll be asked to return the favor at some point? Or are these people really not all that close friends perhaps? Does she just like the drama and martyrdom of doing it without help? She had no problem letting Jon do it all. So many questions in this episode, and no answers.

Another complaint about TLCgo. Halfway through this episode, about now, when they were showing more endless ads, their ad for Amazon prime froze the rest of the video. Thinking it a glitch, I refreshed it. Went through all the ads again, because they make you, and the Amazon prime froze the darn thing again! After giving it one more try to the same results, I switched over to a bootleg copy found on Youtube. TLCgo is a hot mess. Take it down and re-write the code because it's garbage.

Some marginally handsome dude named Ronnie shows up. Maybe in his late 20's. Kate identifies him as their hair stylist and dear friend from NYC. They have a lot of dear friends who don't actually live in their town, don't they? Both the twins absolutely adore him. Maybe it's me, but this lovey-dovey relationship seems a little odd. I'm all for kids having older mentors, but the hair stylist? I think I would feel better about it if I knew they also had people in their lives they ran to like that like a grandma, or an Aunt Jodi, or a special Sunday school teacher or scout leader. Their circle is just not rounded out with the normal people one would expect a child to really adore and look up to, and it's strange and unfortunate. This guy is not going to be there for these kids through thick and thin as they go through life, like a relative or other close friend would be. It's fun now because he's just starting his career and befriending celebrity families, but he'll settle in soon and realize he has no time for this latching on nonsense and move on.

Mady lets loose that Ronnie was the best surprise ever, except for her laptop. So, she got a laptop for her birthday? This family can finagle a hair stylist and a laptop for a birthday present but not basic day-to-day hired help? Huh.

Back at the ranch, Kate sends an ice cream food truck to pay the younger kids a visit because she felt guilty they couldn't be at the party. Is this for real? The cost of a private food truck visit is outrageous. The way this woman pisses away money then turns around and complains she lacks basic rich people things like a housekeeper, is bizarre. 

This next part has a huge back story to it that I'm only going to summarize ever so briefly, in part because I don't even remember all the details of it, but folks can feel free to elaborate on it in the comments. And that is guess who is watching the kids? A fan! A creepy one too! This is so f-ed up! She's known around these parts as Brownie. On this blog there is a wealth of information about her and her creepy antics that goes back, I'm not even joking, until at least 2011. I did a quick google search of the blog for her, and found some posts to highlight about her. One, from an old poster Red Sky at Night, was talking about how Brownie was incessantly tweeting Kate about meeting up, having coffee with her, seeing NYC with her, and that Kate would just ignore her. And then there were the posts and posts about the expired cereal incident, as explained by good ole poster No Regrets, who said Brownie was going on and on about how she only spent 95 cents a box instead of five bucks, and 21 boxes were for Kate. "Just reading that woman is exhausting," remarked No Regrets. LOL!

I guess crazy as she sounds on twitter, Brownie actually has a legitimate job in real life as an art teacher. (Allegedly. I mean, I could say I'm an art teacher, too. Doesn't make it so.) But how in the holy f--- did she end up not only on this show but watching the kids alone??? How do you go from, I'm a creepy pest on Twitter, to, and now I'm the babysitter left alone with the kids?! What a hot mess. John Lennon, Kate. Jodi Foster. Rebecca Schaeffer. Wake the F up.

Also, another big fat clue that this whole "rained out birthday party oh noooes!" was all staged? How did Kate so quickly set up an art teacher to come stay with the sextuplets and arrange for a food truck to swing by? Gimme an ever loving break. I also find it to be an absolutely glaring omission that Kate doesn't mention, oh by the way, Brownie is just a fan I met on twitter. She paints a rosy picture like this is some art teacher perhaps from school or they met at scouts, and that's just nonsense, a lie. If you're going to be so unbelievably stupid as to allow your fans to have unfettered access to your children like this, at least be honest about it. Also, who thinks Brownie has been angling for a role on this show for years? I betchya a whole lot of DM's were exchanged before this finally happened. This really takes the cake brownie!

Creepy Brownie fan is in the bathroom with Aaden, washing off paint from his face. Good Lord. At least she's a teacher, allegedly, so at least we know someone, somewhere, has done some kind of background check on her at some point, one hopes.


I think this was the episode that got decent ratings out of the rest of the dismal season, and I kind of see why now. It's actually a tiny bit interesting in that it's so....unbelievably.....insane.

The twins lament that the younger kids can say very mean and nasty things. The twins are just as nasty, so I don't really think they should talk.

I can't stand when adults totally exaggerate a child's accomplishments. Brownie calls the actually somewhat messy paint job the kids did on picture frames for the twins "phenomenal." No, it was mostly just mediocre, not even close to phenomenal. And, a lot of the kids were goofing off, messing around during the project, which is not good behavior when one is trying to focus and paint something nice for their sisters. I daresay some of them didn't even try, and Brownie isn't about to be hard on them lest she mess up this once in a lifetime gig. Even some of the kids admit they stink at painting. In any case, a "good job" is sufficient and doesn't give kids an inflated sense of their own crappy skills. Next thing you know you've got some delusional kid setting his sights on majoring in the arts when at best all he can throw together is an ugly finger painting.

Swish back to the Pinterest party. Salmon burgers, and, pesto spaghetti? That's interesting. I'm all for kids getting to pick what they would like to eat on their birthday, but out of courtesy to their many guests, they should have offered something else too almost everyone will eat and enjoy, like your standard marinated chicken strips, or a pizza. Their combo is too weird to appeal to many people, and it's rude to only offer that. At the end of the day Kate is still as rude and inconsiderate as ever, unable to think and realize that their menu is bizarre and not appealing to many.

Oh I just LOVE when Kate gets caught in the lie. Remember how she insisted for years that she really needed to sign up for filming so that their memories could be video taped? Well now she says she filmed almost every moment of the twins when they were babies herself. This was long before the show, remember. So, if it was no problem to film it all yourself, every moment of it, why does one need a camera crew in the first place? What a liar.

Kate herself, she claims at the request of the twins, put together a bunch of clips of the girls from when they were babies to show at the party. It ended up being half an hour. Mady and Cara say on the couch that they actually asked Kate to make a video montage for them only, not to show at the party to everyone, but Kate twisted their request all around. And they said the video was an hour. Yikes. Wouldn't a much better idea be to have this video playing on a loop in the background throughout the party? I've seen that at birthday parties, weddings, and anniversaries, and it works well. That way no one feels obligated to sit down and hush up through a big long montage of boring home videos, but people can still watch and enjoy them throughout the party on their own terms. The way Kate structured it, this film brought the party to an awkward, screeching halt.

The guests are extraordinarily polite, sitting there acting engaged and interested in this very long drawn out boring home video. Oh, there's her stupid "The Gosselin Twins" sign she tacked to the twins' stroller, the very first flicker we ever had of what her ambitions really were. She says that patriotic decorated stroller was part of a competition and she won. She took the competition very seriously, so much so that she blackened the windows of their garage so no one could see her working on the project. Yes Kate, other competitors are going to illegally sneak onto your property peer through garage windows and try to get a peek at your lame decorations and then steal the idea. That's not psycho thinking at all. But yet another fascinating glimpse into how she is wired and how she sees the world.

Kate seems embarrassed at how she looks in this videos. She looks a little dated, sure, with that stupid headband and the tucked in solid colored blouses, but it was 2001, what do you expect? (Hey, how crazy is it that how we all looked in 2001, the year of 9-11, seems so dated now?) Other than that I think she looks young, fresh, normal, and decidedly un-plastic, untouched by the downside of fame and fortune. In short, I think the woman looked good in 2001. Sad she doesn't see it.

I hate when Kate speaks for all mothers. No, not all mothers want their kids to go back to being babies. Some mothers actually enjoy the different stages of their children's lives as they happen, one to the next, and don't constantly long for them to be nine months old. Sheesh.

Kate is really putting huge emotional burdens on the twins about them turning 16. It's a big deal, sort of yes, but it's not that big of a deal. Graduation and going off to college are way worse, how on earth will she handle that?

As they light the candles on the cute cake, Kate proceeds to rattle off 16 things she loves about the twins, which she admits she didn't prepare. That's too many things not to prepare, what a lazy doofus. She ends up saying stupid stuff like I love that you didn't light yourself on fire lighting the candles. Dolt.

These guests are one in a million listening to all this so politely, but I can see a glimmer of impatience finally breaking their smiles. No doubt at some point, the 16-year-old guests would like to hang out and laugh and party with their 16-year-old friends and have this stop being all about Kate.

Thinking back to all the Sweet 16 parties I went to as a kid and I never remember the mothers being so front and center. I don't begrudge adults who have been in their lives wanting to be here for the party, but for goodness sake, have a separate area for the adults so the kids can have some space to enjoy the party just among themselves. As I recall for my 16th, I had a bunch of girlfriends spend the night undisturbed by the adults. Then later on that weekend I had a party for family--immediate family, grandparents from both sides, cousins local to the area, and close family friends. Separating it out like that gives a 16 year old a chance to really just be with their friends, which is so important at that age, while still making sure this event can be marked by family, too. There are so many quick and easy compromises like that Kate could take that she never does.

The party is finally over and Mady says now they're going to go make smores on the deck. Please tell me they will finally be able to do something without all the adults there. Wait, I thought it was raining and they couldn't do things outside?

The twins were very appreciative and sincere about creepy Brownie's art projects the younger kids made, so that was a relief. It's sad when every time someone in this family does something nice for someone else, I brace for impact waiting for the other person to say something rude or ungrateful or otherwise blow them off.

Mercifully, it looks like the girls are having their bonfire without any adults. What a massive relief, finally!

Kate claims the twins thanked her for days and days afterwards. And days. I don't find that representative of how truly grateful they are. Rather it's a red flag that children are fearful that their gratitude is not sinking in with their parent, or that they are otherwise on pins and needles with that parent, and so they do things like that over and over to ensure the parent is appeased. It's a sign of insecurity and dysfunction, Kate.

We close with some more old clips to fill up the rest of the time. Ha, the editors snuck in an old clip of Mady in an Em Tanner shirt. Hey-ya, Em!

Kate doesn't know if she really deserves to be their mother. Nope, she doesn't. See ya next time for the season finale.

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NJGal51 said...

kateplusmy8 Yes! New shows coming this summer I hear! :) #KatePlus8 #TLC @potato_pancake_yumm @kamakshinarula1
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Sounds to me like that although they may be doing some filming TLC hasn't committed as to when the shows will actually air hence the "I hear". Sort of like last year when TFW was all over the place with the air dates of the show. She may have asked TLC when and they may have said "Maybe this summer". Unless they're filming locally I don't think that there's much filming going on at all because there haven't been any sightings and those sightings have normally proved to be accurate when the show finally airs.

NJGal51 said...

Well she's up past 2K "likes" (1415 EST) and it's funny that all the comments now seem to be in favor of seeing the dogs now.

GollyGee said...

You would think the post of the family that needs help would have more likes on it!

Her daughter is out in the back running with a dog gets 8x times more? 27K to 3K?

Who is she impressing? Alexis?

localyocul said...

To the poster who's friend dragged her to go see her years ago at the church, was she and Jon being photographed for 10 dollars?

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No, If I recall they had pics and would autograph them for $10. This was before selfies were really a thing and you couldn't take a pic and post it right on facebook. I didn't get in line to get taken advantage of myself LOL

Layla said...

Kate did a seminar on overcoming adversity? Why wasn't the event promoted? She could have gotten some of her IG/Twitter fans to attend, which would translate to more money for her (both in fees and pictures sold), but she never mentioned it. What kind of marketing plan is that?

I am really beginning to think that either her pay has been cut or the number of episodes has been reduced. She is pursuing outside sources of income, which she never bothered to do when filming was at its peak. There had been no mention of public speaking and no marketing attempts on her social media. And then suddenly she is doing both. She will definitely try to sell the tups' 13th birthday to People magazine. She is definitely scrounging for alternate sources of income.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am really beginning to think that either her pay has been cut or the number of episodes has been reduced. She is pursuing outside sources of income

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Yup. She's hustling at about a 3 out of 10 lately which is huge for someone who normally is at a 1 or 0. Something is up.

Sad but true said...

Two girl tups on the floor. You mean to tell me that Miss "OCD" K8 didn't bother to move the crate at least every few days to, I dunno, vacuum up the hair or sweep up crumbs or WTF-ever? Or was it another substandard household helper who allowed her oak floor to be "ruined"? This woman just can't decide who she is in real life.

kateplusmy8 What are they doing, you ask? Oh, well.. they are excitedly assembling a rubber mat to put under Nanuqs crate ...that I ordered on Amazon. She 'kindly' spilled so much water that it ruined my oak floor underneath, before we realized it! #ThanksGirls #HannahAndLeah #MechanicallyInclined #NaughtyPuppy #OhWellWeLoveHer #Nanuq #KingGermanShepherd

FlimsyFlamsy said...

#DearTFW#EnoughWithTheEndlessHashtags
#YouClearlyDon'tUnderstandTheirPurpose
#SoPleaseStop#LikeLiterally

NJGal51 said...

Did she never move the crate to clean under/around it? If it was enough water to warp the floor that had to have been over a long period of time without moving the crate. How long has she been leaving them in the crate at any given time? If only for short periods of time they wouldn't really need water. Didn't she ever notice that the bedding was wet? She really is an ass.

Tucker's Mom said...

#rivetingIGpostonceagain
#donteventrytoblamethedogyoubitch

Tucker's Mom said...

I never keep water in the dog crate. I don't really use them with my 2 anymore, but in general, no water.
Yes, you'd have to be remiss in cleaning up in and around the crate for water damage to cause rot. No way you wouldn't notice that.
Kate is such a dolt. She keeps on revealing how sloppy and negligent she is.

Sad but true said...

Why wouldn't an animal crate, put on a hardwood floor and where your pet is clearly spending some time, have something under it in the first place?

"I just don't get it."

For once, a good question from Doofus:

miloandjack2016 Raising #BigPups indoors is indeed a #LearnAsYouGo thing. How long had #Nanuq been watering your oak floor before you noticed it? 😋@kateplusmy8

Yeah, K8, answer this one, you OCD-impersonator. Another self-made myth bites the dust.

Sad but true said...

Of course Milo left some droppings on the Shoka photo, too.

miloandjack2016 LOVE means never having to say #YouAreSorry! #PostngPuppyPics. You can keep them coming! I have alot of affection for your furbabies & will always "like" or ❤ their pics! @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 You love yours...but no one loves my dogs #Jack & #MissK more than I do! Come & #Like or ❤ my pups sometimes! 😋 @kateplusmy8

What? K8's not reciprocating Milo's drooly dog-love? Shocking.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Those poor kids must have really dull life if they're "excited" about putting a mat under the dog's crate!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Did she never move the crate to clean under/around it? If it was enough water to warp the floor that had to have been over a long period of time without moving the crate.


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That is so gross. It's not like a piece of furniture you don't move that often except maybe spring cleaning.

We still leave the crate out if someone comes over who doesn't like dogs, and my dog likes sleeping in it once in awhile, or will go in there to be sick. Part of our cleaning routine when we clean the bedroom is to take the blanket out and wash it, wash the crate with maybe some water/vinegar, move it, and vacuum the carpet underneath.

And, I don't even consider myself anal about cleaning. In fact I can be a bit messy. But cleaning the crate and the area just seems part of good hygiene, and common sense, for both you and the dog.

GollyGee said...

Sad, but true said...11

Yeah, K8, answer this one, you OCD-impersonator. Another self-made myth bites the dust.

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OCD impersonator! lol

Wow! How stuuuuuupid not to have anything under that crate!

Must be getting paid back for leaving Nala and Shoka in their own urine and feces.

I hope it cost 10's of thousands of dollars to replace it AND not be able to get TLC film a trip while they replace the floor while they are gone!

Also, when they get back, there is no designer there to slowly bring them in, with their eyes closed for the Big Floor Reveal!

She is such a horrible mother, animal caretaker and a vicious human being.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I recall a lot of things I read recommending no water in the crate, because then the dog will have to pee and can't get out. He will be fine unless the house isn't air conditioned.

There's also a risk he will spill and be wet and uncomfortable or cold. And, it gives you a false sense of security if you intend to be cruel and leave them for a long time, because the water could easily get knocked over or absorbed by a blanket, and then your dog is dehydrated.

A dog generally shouldn't be spending so long in a crate he NEEDS water. Huge red flag. Giant.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This week's episode of Feud. There are so many parallels to other stars on the downward spiral of their careers. I see a lot of similarities to how Kate has handled it. The desperation, the groveling, the hustling, the delusion. The oh how the mighty have fallen humiliation of it all.

RoxyHelen said...

That picture of Shoka with the caption: "Love [him] to bits". Have we ever heard her say that about Collin? Ever? In 12 years since they've been on tv? How does she still have even the smallest fan base at this point?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

RoxyHelen (#20), I've said the same thing. The only time she's praised her boys was in response to something they'd done to help her. I remember a couple of #LoveMyBoys mentions, but they had to EARN them. She doesn't just love them because they are sweet, loving, dear boys, and because they're hers, and because that's what mothers do.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Has C hit the one-year mark away from home? We've talked about it so much that
I think the magnitude of it has been dulled.

This is a boy who was born prematurely. Even with that fragile start on the planet, his mother admitted beating him severely. She decided to end her nursing career to bring cameras into her home and make her 8 children's private lives public. The world watched as C was repeatedly dismissed and mistreated by his mother on camera. We
saw him react fearfully to her, worried he'd do something to anger her. We heard he had some behavioral problems which led to an expulsion from school, but the show, and its grueling schedule of filming and travel, continued. Then C's father was kicked out, and his mother did her level best to poison her kids' minds against him. After all those challenges, C's behavioral issues, perhaps understandably, continued. While we saw a helpful, kind boy onscreen, C's mother told the world that his issues were overwhelming her and her family. She said she was unable to help him, and removed him from his home right before his 12th birthday.

What an incredibly sad story. And yet his mother has never seemed happier.

GollyGee said...

Scott Baio Didn’t Know Erin Moran Had Cancer: He Apologizes For Drug Comments

Scott Baio is backtracking after insinuating that Erin Moran, died from drug related issues. The actor says he had no idea his former co-star was battling stage 4 cancer, and if he did, he never would have said what he did.

It was revealed on April 24 that Erin Moran likely died from complications of stage 4 cancer, so Scott Baio got major flack for insinuating it was drugs that caused he death. However, he’s now devastated over the comments he made, and tells TMZ he was completely unaware of the cancer diagnosis.

If he had known, he assures the site he would have “kept his mouth shut,” especially since his wife, Renee, has battled cancer several times.


The actor made a similar apology on his Facebook page April 24, explaining that when he did the interview about Erin’s troubled past and drug use, her actual cause of death had not been released yet.

“Please stop assuming the worst in me,” he wrote. “I’m a compassionate person. I’m very heartbroken over her passing, especially since it was cancer.”

Scott says he was ONLY asked about “Erin’s troubled past due to drug & alcohol abuse” during the radio interview on the morning on April 24, during which he said, “I’m okay, a little shocked, but not completely shocked that this happened.

My thing is, I feel bad because her whole life, she was troubled. She could never find what made her happy and content. For me, you do drugs or drink, you’re gonna die.”

Erin and Scott starred together on Happy Days and Joanie Loves Chachi. However, the actress struggled to land roles after those glory days, and was reportedly “broke and homeless” in the days leading up to her tragic death.

Our thoughts are with her family and loved ones during this difficult time.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/04/25/scott-baio-apology-erin-moran-death-drugs-cancer/

Formerly Duped said...

Assembling a mat??? That must be difficult. And I see it's H and L, not A who seems the most attached to the animals.

kris said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 22

Your post literally brought tears to my eyes. I know everything she's done but to read it like you wrote it, just reiterates what a horrible person/supplier of a uterus that she is. Because she isn't a 'mother'.

Tucker's Mom said...

This is a boy who was born prematurely. Even with that fragile start on the planet, his mother admitted beating him severely. She decided to end her nursing career to bring cameras into her home and make her 8 children's private lives public. The world watched as C was repeatedly dismissed and mistreated by his mother on camera.
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It occurs to me that Kate's children are the ones who've overcome adversity, some a lot more than others.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Seeing TFW admit her floor was neglected to the point it warped, I couldn't help thinking of the "Let's Find A Housekeeper" episode,
in which she said she cleaned the floors
3X A DAY! And that was when she had 8 little ones running around! I guess that's because they ate 42 boxes of cereal and 117 loaves of bread every day -- lots of crumbs to contend with. Or it could be
that she made the whole thing up. We
also know now that she had plenty of help
at the time, so that whole search was a charade -- as was the search for a babysitter. Realest reality, y'all.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 19
This week's episode of Feud. There are so many parallels to other stars on the downward spiral of their careers. I see a lot of similarities to how Kate has handled it. The desperation, the groveling, the hustling, the delusion. The oh how the mighty have fallen humiliation of it all.
******
I was going to post the same exact thing! I watched the finale yesterday and was drawing so many parallels to Kate.

-the increasing cosmetic procedures, some of which will catch up to her later in life
-the "golden child" and the scapegoat child who's told to 'toughen up' and sent away
-the isolation from friends and family and reliance on hired help for company and companionship
- excusing everything they choose to do because they have children to support, even though they're plenty rich

Tucker's Mom said...

A dog generally shouldn't be spending so long in a crate he NEEDS water. Huge red flag. Giant.
*****
Bingo. It's either a real rookie mistake or as you mentioned, you are leaving the dog in the crate for way too long.
If the dog is crated that long, you either allow water, which will make them have to pee, or you don't give access to water, and they get thirsty.
Many dogs are sloppy drinkers and would not be able to stay dry.
My bichon has a little beard and omg, it's like a sponge. I'm always chasing after him for a "wipey" of his chin after he drinks.
I'm so glad I can leave my 2 puppies most of the house to be comfortable when they're alone. The only thing I need to be careful of is leaving no food where my Lab can counter surf and get to it.

Anonymous said...

The pups are a year old, has she never moved the crate for cleaning in a year? And nothing under the crate? Water in the crate is a no-no; the pups should not be in the crate long enough to need water.

FlimsyFlamsy @ 22 - Your post about the magnitude of Collin's situation brought tears to my eyes. Your description of his young life is such a sad story.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...


OCD impersonator! lol

Wow! How stuuuuuupid not to have anything under that crate!
*****
When we brought our bichon home as a puppy, I set up a pen for him and started with those colorful, interlocking rubber tiles that you see for kids, then placed a soft blanket over and put the pen on top. That way, he had a soft, padded pen and if he had an accident, it would never reach the floor.
Once you get water damage on wood floor, you need to replace the damaged boards and refinish the floor.

#woodfloorcare101

Tucker's Mom said...


Your post literally brought tears to my eyes. I know everything she's done but to read it like you wrote it, just reiterates what a horrible person/supplier of a uterus that she is. Because she isn't a 'mother'.***
Agree- especially when you remember that these kids were a miracle, being premies and HOM.

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 22

Has C hit the one-year mark away from home? We've talked about it so much that I think the magnitude of it has been dulled.

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Flimsy, not only has it been a year, it has been over a year! The Family Game Night receipt was January 2016. I believe he left right after that. So, I think it is at least 14 months.

If the sighting in Cincinnati was correct and TLC was filming her about a story line with Collin, then she can go no lower. No wait. Filming without Collin for the upcoming bestest 13th birthday evah for the second year in a row.

For TLC and TFW to pretend that Collin was there when they finally aired the Family Game Night episode is an abomination. It is a major abomination, all around.

You are right, she's never been happier. But, it will catch up with her. She won't be so happy then.

Even Steve won't know how to help her.

Formerly Duped said...

lol I need a mop after my dog drinks. Then there's a trail after she has a drink. I am constantly finding these puddles and drips..how on earth would that long a period of time go by with no one noticing. There's danger of mold, too, if the crate sits in water for long. TFW really should not have pets, animal lover that she is. I remember all the hazards Zorro was prey to, allowed to fly free as he did, as well as health hazards to the family.

GollyGee said...

Flimsy, it is sad commentary of Collin's short life. Very moving.

Secretly planned, manufactured and birthed to be filmed, exploited and abused, verbally and physically.

For the benefit of their mother.

NJGal51 said...

My guess is that she probably had some sort or rug under the crate and the water soaked into and through the rug and just sat that way on the floor which probably made it worse. We've always had English bulldogs and they are among the worst for drinking/slopping water. We've always got to be careful on the tile because if your heel hits a patch of water your feet are going to go right out from under you. We've got a mat under his bowl but it's not a magic solution. You've still got to clean and keep everything dry. She's a dope.

Formerly Duped said...

Flimsy, I agree. It's shocking and how can this happen, legally? It's a well-known fact, TFW being so 'famous' and all. I feel so angry and of course we are all helpless to do more than express our outrage here and send good thoughts Collin's way. Not to bring it all up again, but surely Jon can do more.I bet a relative like Kevin would step in, if allowed.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Formerly Duped Speaking of Kevin,did anyone see Jon reply to a account KevinKreider2?I saw that he had 2 accounts that are now suspended.I don't know if the accounts were fake and Jon reported them or if Kate's crazy fans reported them but both accounts of his are gone.

Layla said...

Hannah and Leah "excitedly" putting together a mat...again Alexis not included.

So, the queen of OCD couldn't be bothered to clean under a dog crate? Could it beeee that the whole OCD thing is a fabrication? Yes, I think it could.

Our Aussie pup refuses to drink out of a dog bowl. He thinks he is one of the kids, and he sees them drinking out of a glass. Of course, that means he must drink out of one. I ended up buying some wide-mouthed, broad-based plastic cups and he drinks out of those. Of course, he wouldn't even do that until I had the boys drink out of them first. Then the furry little prince decided that they were acceptable.

We are coming up on one year since our original two Aussies (brother and sister) were diagnosed with lung cancer and had to be put down. We were all against getting another dog so soon, but DH insisted that we get one. He travels a lot, and he feels better knowing that there is a dog in the house when he is away. It was a tough adjustment, but I can't imagine life without the new little guy.

GollyGee said...

And another thing.

Collin's team that is taking care of him, like a child psychologist, among others, worth their weight in salt, there is no way they would approve of him being filmed and a story line about him or even his birthday.

JM said...

I believe C was in the episode where they went to New Orleans, which was over the Spring Break in March 2016. I have no certain knowledge of when he left but I believe they didn't film the birthday episode right around their birthday in early May but later, possibly Memorial Day weekend or first weekend in June, based on sightings of filming we heard about at that time. Also, I've always thought, again no confirmation, that Andrea was there for C specifically, perhaps she did the homeschooling (she is Carla's niece). Andrea left in June, according to TFW; Andrea helped with the birthday episode but I think C was gone shortly before that. Just my thoughts.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Layla (#39), it cracks me up to picture your dog drinking out of a glass! And that he had to watch your sons do it first to make sure it was okay! How wonderful that he has brought you so much joy and comfort after losing your other 2 beloved pets.

TLC stinks said...

Water in a crate=hours locked up. She's a beast.

Ingrid said...

Thinking back to Kate's comment "She's ruined" when her one girl messed up her outfit and all the other things she had exaggerated or lied about That damage may not be too awful bad. She didn't show a picture of the actual damage of course. I have heard of mayonnaise helping some water stains.

RoxyHelen said...

kris said... 25

FlimsyFlamsy said... 22

Your post literally brought tears to my eyes. I know everything she's done but to read it like you wrote it, just reiterates what a horrible person/supplier of a uterus that she is. Because she isn't a 'mother'.

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I second this. That little boy was a gift, like all children and I just feel like he was never seen as such. Yes, I believe it's been a year(give or take a few days) since Collin was sent away. I am one of the people who do not believe Collin was still home on May 12th, hence the picture of the empty decorated chairs instead of the usual pics of the birthday kids.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Ingrid (#44), good point -- TFW does have a flair for the dramatic. But doesn't she think before she says things that make her look like negligent dog parent at worst, or like a big slob at best?

GollyGee said...

I have a feeling it is going to take more than a little mayonnaise to fix that problem.

GollyGee said...

Comments from this article in 2009.

It’s sad in a way to see the old house that way. As if when they left the bible verses on the mirror, they left God and their trust in Him there with them. Since moving is when most of their problems with the media seem to have started. Some people can’t handle all the fame, and Jon and Kate don’t seem to handle it very well. Jon just wants to be able to go out in public again without all the media, and Kate seems to be feeding off of it. No matter if it costs her, the marriage.

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Yes, the old home was a home, now the new home looks like a TV set. But look how Kate looks now….can her skirts get any shorter? and her hair….she needs to really find a new hairdresser we think lol. I loved seeing all them kids in the old house and there was charm and essence there.

I disagree when I hear they signed up for getting all sexed up looking….does Kate and Jon need to be having shows on new clothes and new motorcycles? I thought that show was on parenting like the duggars. now that home is a wonderful home that family built together.

http://hookedonhouses.net/2009/06/16/jon-kate-plus-8-out-with-the-old-house-in-with-the-new/

Tucker's Mom said...

We are coming up on one year since our original two Aussies (brother and sister) were diagnosed with lung cancer and had to be put down. We were all against getting another dog so soon, but DH insisted that we get one. He travels a lot, and he feels better knowing that there is a dog in the house when he is away. It was a tough adjustment, but I can't imagine life without the new little guy.

*****
We got our bichon relatively shortly after our beloved bichon passed away. I knew I would want and get another bichon, but worried about it being too soon and about comparing the two, since they would be similar.
Well, they are similar in temperament, but worlds different in personality!
I couldn't possibly love him more.

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom (49)
We definitely wanted another Australian Shepherd. We love the Aussie personality, even though the dogs are very different in other ways. The new guy is like a naughty toddler. He does things just to get my attention. The first two were very mellow and just liked being around us. This guy demands attention. He's too cute, and so naughty!

Sad but true said...

I noticed in that photo, both Hannah and Leah have braces on again. I am sure this is the second time for Hannah. Did any of the boys get them yet?

Tucker's Mom said...

Here's an observant comment on Kate's IG re: that interlocking mat under the crate:

dawniiii29I'm a bit confused. Aren't there large holes in the rubber mat for the water to go Thru?

Layla said...

Sad But True,
Yes, this is Hannah's second time with braces. Aaden has them now (Jon posted a photo that showed them), but Joel may not have them yet. Remember, girls come first!

High Sodium Content said...

I would ask Kate how much time is a dog spending in a crate that it needs a constant water supply? My daughter used a crate for her puppies at times, but it was only when she was out or went to work. Not hours upon hours.

NIOP said...

After Kate gave Milo a curt smack-down for announcing the pups 1st birthday (incorrectly, and to add insult to injury, used one of Kate's fav pics of the mutts) Milo is now in her maudlin faze. Next will be her I'll show you.... and disappear from Twitter for a while until she gets fed up kickin' at dirt and nobody noticing she's gone. Hahaha

miloandjack2016You love yours...but no one loves my dogs #Jack & #MissK more than I do! Come & #Like or ❤ my pups sometimes! �� @kateplusmy8

Formerly Duped said...

Aaden got braces. Hannah, like Mady is having two sets of braces for her full treatment. Alexis has very nice teeth, although all the boys could use them and maybe each will get them in the orthodontist's plan. Maybe an episode? Wait- they did have one with Mady, which was rather personal and embarrassing to her IMO.

NJGal51 said...

Layla and Tucker's Mom - We always go with bulldogs because we love their personalities and those smooshy faces. Our current puppy (just turned one last week) is probably the worst puppy in the world. If there's mischief to get in he's going to find it. Even as we speak he was being too quiet so I went to check it out and he'd ripped one of his beds up! I wouldn't change a thing because we love the horrid, vile creature!

Tucker's Mom said...

miloandjack2016You love yours...but no one loves my dogs #Jack & #MissK more than I do! Come & #Like or ❤ my pups sometimes! �� @kateplusmy8
*****
Awww, Milo thinks this is a two-way street.
Bless her heart.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

High Sodium Content (#54),you're right -- it seems to be indicative of someone gone for long stretches of time. But if TFW was truly without household help as she claims, she'd be home most of the day cleaning, cooking, and doing laundry for 8 people, right?

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 57
Layla and Tucker's Mom - We always go with bulldogs because we love their personalities and those smooshy faces. Our current puppy (just turned one last week) is probably the worst puppy in the world. If there's mischief to get in he's going to find it. Even as we speak he was being too quiet so I went to check it out and he'd ripped one of his beds up! I wouldn't change a thing because we love the horrid, vile creature!
******
Too funny! I just wrote about letting my dogs have the run of most of the house, but have to be careful with our Lab because she surfs the counters.
Well, tonight I was prepping quesadillas for dinner and the bichon was eating something off the floor.
WTH?
OMG, I looked at my prep and only 3 of the 4 flour tortillas was on the island!
Our sneaking, stealthy Lab had snatched a tortilla off the counter when we weren't looking, and ate most of it when we walked back into the kitchen, and bichon was eating her leftover crumbs.
Grrrrrr!!

Yes, too quiet dogs can be real trouble!

NJGal51 said...

<=====The dead bed....at least mine can't counter surf Tucker's Mom!

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 61
<=====The dead bed....at least mine can't counter surf Tucker's Mom!
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LOL!!
Never a dull moment!

GollyGee said...

Tucker's Mom said... 52
Here's an observant comment on Kate's IG re: that interlocking mat under the crate:

dawniiii29I'm a bit confused. Aren't there large holes in the rubber mat for the water to go Thru?

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lol! In order for that to happen you would have to have a drain under the dog cage with a grate on it and a mat with holes big enough to allow the water to drain through. She could even have a 55 gallon drum to catch it and have it pumped back up to the pups bowl so she would never be bothered to have to give water to the pups again!

Remember how she did Mady on CBS this morning, years ago? Her drinking the bottled water in front of her and her daughter as thirsty as she was?

Horrible.



FlimsyFlamsy said...

Yesterday I heard an NPR interview with Facebook exec Sheryl Sandberg, whose husband died suddenly of a heart attack 2 years ago at 47. She has 2 young children, and is a real single mother. She just wrote a book called "Option B," about going on with life after tragedy.

Sandberg said she was dealing with her grief and feeling sorry for herself, and someone said, "It could be worse." She thought, how could it be worse? And the person said, "Dave could've been driving with the kids when it happened." Suddenly she realized she could've lost everyone she loved, and it gave her some perspective and strength to carry on. Now that's overcoming adversity with grace, strength and courage.

NJGal51 said...

The holes in the mat may not go all the way through and may be there to trap the water at a lower level. That will solve the problem of the water getting on the floor but it won't solve all of the problems. If it's the type of mat that will trap the water they're going to have to take that mat outside and hose it down to clean it off. Stagnant water on anything stinks.

Layla said...

NJGal51, Love the dead bed! I'm sure he was making a point--you need to give him uninterrupted attention at all times. My pup refuses to use a dog bed--he uses his as a toy box. He keeps all his toys there, and then when he steals something from one of his humans (socks, shoes, gloves, pencils, my oven mitts, etc) he buries it in his bed under his toys. Every ball that comes into the house belongs to him, including the ones my boys use for sports.

He sleeps in an armchair (nobody else is allowed to use that chair) and he absolutely must have a pillow for his head. I can't imagine what life would be like without our furry little buddies!

Sad but true said...

New IG pic with the same two girls, but Mak is getting to ride in the car this time. I guess she's realizing her favoritism towards #NookiePookie is quite obvious. I wonder if the girls gave permission for this pic.

kateplusmy8 Please, Mom, can I go to school with the kids??! I promise I'll obey, and I won't eat anyone's homework😜. Please??! #Mak #Hannah #Alexis #RidingInTheCar #GoingToSchool #KingGermanShepherd

chantellymatthews So cute! Love that the girls still dress similar! 💕

kateplusmy8 School uniforms 😉😉 @chantellymatthews

dingdongjess When was this taken?

kateplusmy8 This morning before school :) @dingdongjess

piperlongest is he good with kids?

kateplusmy8 Oh my goodness yes! He IS one of the kids! Gentle giant with his family but from a line of loyal guard dogs:) @piperlongest

miloandjack2016 Good training to keep both dogs acclimated to riding w/their humans. So proud you didn't give up on #Mak! @kateplusmy8

And there you have it. Mak and Nunu ARE also "the kids," so it isn't K8-1=7, it's K8-1+2=9! And so nice of Milo to comment on how proud she is that Kate "didn't give up on" her pup that didn't like riding in the car.

So how's Collin?

NIOP said...

Blast from the past. Scroll down to read comments.

https://sites.google.com/site/preesi/here-we-go-again

Tucker's Mom said...

He sleeps in an armchair (nobody else is allowed to use that chair) and he absolutely must have a pillow for his head. I can't imagine what life would be like without our furry little buddies!
*****
Our dogs help themselves and get comfy and DH looks at them at says, 'OK, I'll take the floor!".
Our old lab used to have to tuck pillows under her ;-)

RoxyHelen said...

Sad but true it's not the same two girls, it was Leah and Hannah in the first picture and now it's Leah and Alexis.

Anyways, allow me to doubt that

a) Kate takes the kids to the school bus when the camera isn't there

b) Kate allows the dog to get in the car either to go with them to the bus or to mess around a bit before school

Just doesn't seem believable to me.

Formerly Duped said...

That's Hannah and Alexis this time. And to the person who said it was cute the kids still dress alike, he/she must not know it's a uniform plus the kids hate dressing alike

Turn out the lights said...

She really is quite impressed her dogs have a fancy pedigree. LOL
I guess she is impressed with her own poop- ya know, since it's 'organic' .
LOL
(It's actually quite pathetic that her media presence is posting about her DOGS).-- not work, books, appearances, movies, tv shows, blah blah blah-- nope, the only thing worth talking about in her life are DOGS.
Hehe

Sad but true said...

RoxyHelen said... 70

Thanks, I realized that right after I posted.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Turn out the lights (#72), she's dull as dishwater, isn't she? Can't she ever recommend an inspiring book she just read? A great movie she just saw? A charity she just volunteered with (remember how she's addicted to giving)? A hobby she's just taken up? Something in the news that's interested and/or inspired her? Good grief, she's mediocre.

NJGal51 said...

Turn Out The Lights - She wants people to think that her dogs have a fancy pedigree but she admitted that she didn't go with a breeder when she decided to breed Shoka. IMO that means backyard breeder all the way and no pedigree at all.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Chefsummer, are you still out there? All this doggie talk made me think of you!

Original t said...

Where are the rest of the kids?

Sad but true said...

jillianreiter My family wants a dog but honestly I don't know if I want to deal with the hair. How do you deal with it in your house

kateplusmy8I clean daily. Literally. Some parts of house, everyday. It's A LOT of hair but SO WORTH IT! :) @jillianreiter

"Literally"? How in the world didja miss all that water under the crate then? Enough to ruin your oak floor? Try for more believability, K8, your exaggerations just don't cut it with people who can read.

kateplusmy8 They were headed to the groomer today. Nanuq was back there, you just can't see her! He's fine in the car now:)! @miloandjack2016

Oh Nookie was there---squee! But what about Shoka?

GollyGee said...
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Unknown said...

I just read an article released today and says Collins was home for easter!! Can't figure out who leaked this info, doesn't flatter her so maybe Jon???

Unknown said...

http://www.inquisitr.com/4172396

FlimsyFlamsy said...

GollyGee (#79), thanks for that link -- I don't think I'd ever seen that piece. Boy, did that dude have TFW's number!

You know what's ridiculous about her comment that they dig through hundreds of hours to find footage of her being mean? NOBODY wants to see a MOMMY being mean to her adorable little kids! Tension between a husband and wife? Sure --
bring it on. A pampered TV star looking like a diva, complaining about her 3rd class accommodations and dragging a vacuum over rocks? Yeah, that's fun to watch. But a mother being rotten to her kids? Why would TLC pick that as an entertaining angle?

Oh, and Katydid -- what happened to "what you see is what you get?" What happened to "realest reality?" What happened to "our life is our show and our show is our life?"
Her own words refute the silly notion that she is edited to look like a b*tch.

Tucker's Mom said...

Rae Barnes said... 80
I just read an article released today and says Collins was home for easter!! Can't figure out who leaked this info, doesn't flatter her so maybe Jon???
***
I don't think this is based on anything but Kate posting an old PR pic of her and all 8 kids for Easter.

Sad but true said...

Rae Barnes said... 80

Sorry, I'm not buying it. It doesn't quote anyone on whether Collin was home or not. It doesn't give a clue to where this info came from. We KNOW that photo was not of this past Easter, since it had been published for TLC promo purposes nearly a year ago. I don't think the statement he was home on Easter has any basis.

NJGal51 said...

I agree with you Tucker's Mom (@83) and I'd take this article with a grain of salt since it says that Jon's trying to make a living as a stripper.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

One of the comments about TFW from the Inquisitr article, regarding C being sent away:
"I'm sure it's torture for her to be away from him." As if. The article includes a picture of TFW grinning like a chimp by the fireplace, and she sure looks like someone who doesn't have a worry in the world.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

I don't think this is based on anything but Kate posting an old PR pic of her and all 8 kids for Easter.

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One of the online tabs erroneously reported that he was home and based it on that old picture without checking the accuracy of their story. Irresponsible and just plain dumb.

GollyGee said...

I wouldn't put it past TFW to have had that buzzed in their ears! She's deflecting! There is no way Collin is at home! He has not been there for a year or more!

She's happier than she has ever been!

I was just thinking to day about the BBP evah! And it occurred to me that she gently forced everybody to watch the videos of Mady and Cara as babies because it was their birthday. But, she didn't show the tups.

She couldn't! Why? Because Collin was not there!

She couldn't let them sing their HBD song at the tups 12th because Collin wasn't there! Then she played the pity card. UGH!

I hope it costs her 20K to replace that wood floor!

She deserves it!

GollyGee said...

Your welcome, Flimsy!

When I read it, I thought the same thing, he really had her number. It is one of the best articles about her I have ever read!

Did you notice if the tup boy in the picture was Collin or Joel?

GollyGee said...

She must have really laughed her behind off when she posted that old PR photo of the kids with Collin, while he was gone and her fans jumping up and down saying, Oh your such a good mom, Collins back and everything is hunky dory.

Ugh!

Formerly Duped said...

The boy tup in the old picture was Joel. I recognize his profile, 99% sure.

GollyGee said...

Formerly Duped said... 91
The boy tup in the old picture was Joel. I recognize his profile, 99% sure.

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When I first saw him, I thought it was Collin, but then, no, Joel. Back and forth and I thought it very well may be Joel because he has a more rounded out face than Collin. Thanks, Formerly Duped.

Sad but true said...

I guess the flogging of the dogs isn't going to end any time soon. I wonder how much of this is to convince her kids she really, REALLY loves dogs. You know they have to have seen whatever abuse she doled out to Shoka and Nala as pups.

kateplusmy8 When you walk in your room and laugh to yourself because you realize you're back in the 'toddler stage' ... but this time with #KingGermanShepherds 😂 #ItsAshameTheyDontHaveEnoughToys #SpoiledPuppies #KingGermanShepherd #Shoka #Mak #Nanuq

winniethepoo_donna_colombo They need to learn how to pick up there toys.

kateplusmy8 Agreed! Once in awhile, they'll put one back in their toy box when they 'go shopping' for another toy. Mostly Mak tho... :) @winniethepoo_donna_colombo

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi all, the case in Texas where alex jones and his ex were fighting over custody of their three children is over, the mother got joint custody and the power to decide where the children will live. Interesting case to read about, she and her attorneys brought up parental alienation tactics Mr jones had used on the children. Good coverage at Statesman newspaper.
http://www.statesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/verdict-wife-alex-jones-wins-joint-custody-after-bitter-trial/gsbA2MrX3pSmoEsexz7oeL/

Formerly Duped said...

When we adopted our rescue dog(s) we had to get references and it was not a sure thing until our application was reviewed. I wonder how someone like TFW is allowed to buy and own all these animal with her known past of abuse , neglect and return of animals?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#93), notice how TFW uses the word "toddler" about her dogs. She's trying to remind the world, and maybe herself, of those glory days when she had the world on a string. I remember when she said, "We have two 6-year-olds and six 2-year-olds." Now she's only days away from having a houseful of teenagers, whom she's not really in to. And 2 of them are dirty, icky boys, which makes it even worse.
At least she got rid of the third one.

I am so curious about how that 13th birthday will be handled. And yes, I said "handled," as you would a business situation, because those children are a commodity to her. That's why it's not torture for her to have C away. He had become a liability, so he had to go -- just like his father was sent away years ago.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#95), I would think the amount of travel the family does might deter someone from giving TFW more animals to care for. How are the dogs cared for when the family is away? Or when the family is in town, but out of the house from sun up to sundown because they're filming?

But I can also imagine someone with less integrity getting a charge out of interacting with a celebrity (even a D-lister), who is known to turn on the charm to get what she wants.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Milo sounds just as I thought she would. She's posted a narrated video on her miloandjack2016 Instagram.

RoxyHelen said...

JoyinVirginia said... 94

Hi all, the case in Texas where alex jones and his ex were fighting over custody of their three children is over, the mother got joint custody and the power to decide where the children will live. Interesting case to read about, she and her attorneys brought up parental alienation tactics Mr jones had used on the children. Good coverage at Statesman newspaper.
http://www.statesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/verdict-wife-alex-jones-wins-joint-custody-after-bitter-trial/gsbA2MrX3pSmoEsexz7oeL/

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Thanks for sharing. Interesting how other parents seem to manage to fight against parental alienation and keep their children close yet Jon can never seem to do it.

Sad but true said...

Formerly Duped said... 95

Since she got them from a non-accredited breeder, one who worked with her and Figure 8 before, and since the 7-year-old dad (Shoka) originally came from his/her premises, I don't imagine s/he gave a hoot one way or the other about K8's "credentials." In addition, there was probably TV production money involved here somewhere along the line. After all, these are two new, specially produced "cast members" brought in to divert attention from the fact that "Plus 8" is no more. Surely that deserves top dollar.

NJGal51 said...

Since she got them from a non-accredited breeder, one who worked with her and Figure 8 before, and since the 7-year-old dad (Shoka) originally came from his/her premises, I don't imagine s/he gave a hoot one way or the other about K8's "credentials."
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She wants people to believe that they come from champion blood lines but not so much. They were bred to be a giant sized GSD and I'm sure that there's a lot of inbreeding going on which can lead to problems down the line. Because they're bred to be a larger version of the GSD they're going to have more joint problems and hip dysphasia. They're sometimes called a "rare" breed which is probably what drew TFW to them

Tucker's Mom said...

I wonder if the dog are allowed to hang out in the kids' rooms. Seems like Kate never, ever mentions that they sleep with any of the kids, which I find weird.
I'd think the dogs would have a schedule of who gets to have them to themselves.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I don't think Zorro's been mentioned for months. Wonder if he's still flying around with 3 dogs in the house? Or are the dogs only in the house for photo ops?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#102), your comment just made me think about C, and how he's missed out on watching the puppies grow up. And how he might have benefited from being surrounded with the unconditional love that dogs are experts on giving.

Sad but true said...

Unfortunately, the dogs were never intended for Collin's benefit. He might have known they were coming, but they didn't arrive at the manse until June, when he was already gone. So if he ever does come back, that'll be another bond he has to somehow create.

Sad but true said...

Uh-oh. Trouble in Rubber Chickenville.

jaross18 Did you ever find those chickens you were looking for @kateplusmy8 ? I'm still looking 🐔😀

kateplusmy8 NO! All websites I ordered chickens from REFUNDED me and said they were out of stock! I'm heartbroken! No replacement has given Shoka such enjoyment! ANYONE who sends him his exact chickens I'm happy to cover ALL COSTS! I just NEED him to have his chickens🐔 @jaross18

And if you don't get his EXACT chickens, but send some poor inexact substitute, then I guess you'll have lost your money. Too bad, so sad. I think Shoka needs to grow up and get what he gets and not get upset.

miloandjack2016 Do you have trouble getting rid of their FAVORITES? Mine...especially MissK sulks if I throw away her beloved duckies! @kateplusmy8. Have to buy more.... Truly like our kids aren't they? 😋

I guess Doofus doesn't remember how easy it was for K8 to throw away the kids' artwork and keepsakes. I'd say she's got NO problem on that score.

NJGal51 said...

How quickly TFW forgets....on 21 August last Lear she posted a picture of Shoka with the purple rubber duck (same type as the chicken) and said that Shoka claimed it for himself. What's theirs is his because he's the king of the king shepherds. It's still on her instagram. Dumb ass. https://instagram.com/p/BJYoywGD__k/

Sad but true said...

Hmm, what's old Nick angling for? A d8 with K8?

nick_moy@kateplusmy8 Hi Kate.. I have one EXACTLY like your picture you posted.. If you let me know how I can get it to Shoka, I am more than willing to send it to him.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#106), Gladys also doesn't remember how easy it was for K8 to throw away her son.

If Nick had a rubber chicken EXACTLY like the one TFW wants, I wonder why he/she didn't mention it 2 weeks ago? Maybe he found one in the "Dominion" Republic, where he and/or his/her son do volunteer work?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that TFW has just expressed more passion and interest in dog toys than she has about her son over the past year? No, she doesn't need to give us specific details about how he's doing, or where he is, or anything to violate his privacy. But I can't imagine there's a gag order that would prohibit her from saying, "I miss my boy," or something like that. This is a woman who claimed to miss the View co-hosts, and the Irwins in Australia, and total strangers on Twitter when she was too busy to check in. But
not her son?

And if there was a gag order, she sure as heck didn't respect it when she blabbed to People about C's fluid diagnosis, and how his condition impacted the whole family because he became an attention suck.
And she also offered very brief comments about C plodding, chugging, and plugging along. But I think it's been almost a year since she's brought him up at all, except to acknowledge an episode he appeared in before he left, something like, "that was when he was still with us." She is a horrible mother.

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 109

Here's what Nick posted on the photo of the chicken:

nick_moy@kateplusmy8 I DM you.. please read my message.. the..

His only comment on that post; did she not reply to him? Oh no! Milo also said she was sure there was one in her house, but she hasn't followed up. K8 could always go for that 2-for-$318 offer on ebay, LOL.

Sad but true said...

Aw, so Miss K didn't have one after all. Go to ebay, Milo, and spend the money for your good friend #Shokie.

miloandjack2016 All pet sites are listing #Shoka's specific rubber KookieChickens as out of stock now. My local PetsMart that had them....sent email and offered a DIFFERENT version. Similar...but not exact. #TheHunt is on!! LOL. @kateplusmy8

FlimsyFlamsy said...

BTW, I don't believe that TFW ordered a single chicken. She was waiting for the fans to send them to her.

Blowing In The Wind said...

But I can't imagine there's a gag order that would prohibit her from saying, "I miss my boy," or something like that. This is a woman who claimed to miss the View co-hosts, and the Irwins in Australia, and total strangers on Twitter when she was too busy to check in. But
not her son?

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Just a guess, but I bet the reason she hasn't said anything like that is because it would generate so many questions and negative comments like "Then why did you send him away?" and so forth. Maybe this time she's decided to just shut up about it and not be subject to this scrutiny.

Sad but true said...

Oh boy.

getagriplosers2 They are discontinued you dumbass freaks

miloandjack2016@getagriplosers2 Think positive...alot of them are still out there in stores...various pet supply outlets. We freaks love our dogs & spare no effort to make their life good!

RoxyHelen said...

I think Kate would talk about missing Collin and would play the victim exept since the public response has been so negative towards the whole thing, she is saying nothing, hoping perhaps that everyone will simply forget that a boy named Collin ever existed. I bet she would love to play the martyr and that may have even been her initial plan.

Tucker's Mom said...

https://www.instagram.com/jongosselin1/

One of Jon's tv gigs apparently was a guest spot on an animated series, playing himself. Cute.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#117), ooooh, TFW is gonna be peanut butter and jellus!

Confused said...

Tucker's Mom said... 117
https://www.instagram.com/jongosselin1/

One of Jon's tv gigs apparently was a guest spot on an animated series, playing himself. Cute.
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How can you be a "guest" on an cartoon? And he said someone else did his voice. Am I missing something?

FYI said...

Tucker's Mom said... 117
https://www.instagram.com/jongosselin1/

One of Jon's tv gigs apparently was a guest spot on an animated series, playing himself. Cute.
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That episode originally aired November 28, 2010. It isn't new. Jon even said on his IG post that his voice wasn't used.

http://cleveland.wikia.com/wiki/Another_Bad_Thanksgiving

Another Bad Thanksgiving
Donna’s sister Janet and her unruly children come to town to celebrate Thanksgiving with the Browns.

Season: 2 Episode: 7
Total Episode Count: 28
Prod. no.: 2APS08
First Aired: November 28, 2010

http://cleveland.wikia.com/wiki/Jon_Gosselin

"When Donna tries to search for Holt in Las Vegas in "Another Bad Thanksgiving", she is forced to pass by several short, hipster wannabes including Jon Gosselin who appears in the resort pool."

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


If Nick had a rubber chicken EXACTLY like the one TFW wants, I wonder why he/she didn't mention it 2 weeks ago? Maybe he found one in the "Dominion" Republic, where he and/or his/her son do volunteer work?

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The Nick person actually said "Dominion Republic?" That's a hoot.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Fleecing (#121), yes, Nick said "Dominion" Republic twice. Once to brag about having so much money that he/she was able to retire early and do volunteer work there. And then to brag about his/her amazing son, who also volunteered there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think Kate would talk about missing Collin and would play the victim exept since the public response has been so negative towards the whole thing, she is saying nothing, hoping perhaps that everyone will simply forget that a boy named Collin ever existed.

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I think you're right. I think at the end of the day she's her typical clueless self and has no idea how to handle a PR crisis like this. She did a test run with her a very special interview, and it tanked big time. I think she was quite thrown off by the overwhelmingly negative reaction especially from parents of special needs kids. That's Kate's M.O. when something like that happens, she shuts down and plays her childish who me routine. She's doing it now.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#123), I think one of TFW's most egregious missteps with the C situation was when she said something like, it wasn't just difficult for ME and him, but for the whole family. She actually put herself first as the one suffering most! She can't help it. She's a professional victim.

On some level, I truly believe she thinks he was doing something to her intentionally. Just like she thought as a toddler that his completely age-appropriate challenging of authority was just him being naughty and stubborn and trying to p*ss her off. And that's why I sincerely believe she's glad he's gone. There was a problem in the house, and she got rid of it.

RoxyHelen said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 124

And that's why I sincerely believe she's glad he's gone. There was a problem in the house, and she got rid of it.

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I think she's torn between being happy to be rid of such a problem yet be pissed that she lost one of the +8 and the show may crash because of it. Best case scenario for her would have probably been Collin still home filming but entirely in someone else's care, if possible entirely isolated from his siblings(which,based on all she's said I am willing to bet is how things were before Collin had to be removed for whatever reason). If I had to guess and go by everything she's said, I'd say Collin was in the 24/7 care of a nanny/an aid and rarely had contact with any of his 7 siblings or his mother outside filming and major holidays.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Only 10 days until the tups turn 13. I wonder if there'll be some kind of TLC-funded trip, rather than a party. If C isn't back yet, some big shindig might just call attention to his absence.

Ingrid said...

Flimsy 124 There was a problem in the house, and she got rid of it.
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Just like she did with Jon.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Fleecing (#121), yes, Nick said "Dominion" Republic twice. Once to brag about having so much money that he/she was able to retire early and do volunteer work there. And then to brag about his/her amazing son, who also volunteered there.

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LOL!! What a doofus. Maybe he/she thinks that the Dominion Republic is a separate part of the Dominican Republic, like St. Maarten, Dutch, is one part of that Caribbean island, shared with St. Martin, the French.

"Professional victim" is a great way to describe Kate, kind of like Munchhausen. She's a victim by proxy. Perfect.

Over And Out said...

Alex Rodriguez visits the Dominion (sic) Republic quite often, so perhaps he is one of Nick's best friends, much the same way that Brad Pitt and Collie Sheeple knew each other intimately!

jamesvader1194 said...

@RoxyHelen I honestly feel Kate is caught between a rock and a hard place because if their will be a PEOPLE cover the 13th birthday,there will be 2 outcomes.The 1st one is IF Collin is not home,then most people and some fans will be wondering and questioning her about his whereabouts and why he isn't home and also wonder what kind of mother does 2 PEOPLE shoots without one of their children.On the other hand IF collin is home and will be apart of the PEOPLE shoot then some people who've been following her on IG will be wondering why Collin was never in any pictures or videos whereas we've got pictures and videos of the other 5.I don't believe Kate could just say he got home recently because this would imply she didnt give a crap about how Collin felt and wanted him home for a PEOPLE magazine shoot and possibly filming immediately without thinking about how he might feel.But if she said the opposite and that he's been home for some time,why was he never in any pictures on IG?I don't see anyway she can explain herself out of this if there is a PEOPLE shoot.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She has backed herself into a corner, and that's classic Kate. She didn't think ahead when she decided to exploit Collin's situation for a buck. She didn't think 12 months ahead or play out all the possibilities in her head. Now she's getting constant backlash that I'm not sure she can really recover from even if he came home today.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#131), if C is coming home soon, or has recently come home, I worry about how travel would effect him. I can't imagine it would be healthy for him to slowly be readjusting to home life, and then packing
a bag again for some TLC summer vacation with cameras in tow. But I also can't imagine TFW forgoing a free trip and episode fodder just because of some experts' advice on her son's well-being. We know "no never means no" to her.

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: People Are Not Happy That Demi Lovato Promoted a ‘Detox’ Tea https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/people-pissed-demi-lovato-promoted-weight-loss-tea-165531102.html?.tsrc=fauxdal
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Wow! Milo put this link in her twitter. Did she forget that TFW is hawking this tea also?!

Sad but true said...

NJGal51 said... 133

This was one of a handful of K8 IG posts that Milo did not comment on. Maybe she disapproves? I think her posting that link on Twitter is very much a passive-aggressive dig.

Tucker's Mom said...

"Reaction from fans was swift, and it wasn’t positive. Many pointed out that Teami Colon, a tea made by the company, contains senna leaf, a laxative that has been cited by health officials for its potential to irritate the colon. Teami also sells a tea called Teami Skinny that promises to help users lose weight quickly. Overall, fans expressed disappointment that someone who promotes a healthy body image would plug a product by a company that sells a weight-loss product, especially one that’s unregulated."

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/people-pissed-demi-lovato-promoted-weight-loss-tea-165531102.html?.tsrc=fauxdal

Uh yeah, we weren't just picking on poor Katie Kreider because she once again was scheming her fans AND did not disclose any quid quo pro.
We had some very salient points which were evident after briefly Googling these Teami products. As a nurse, Kate should have known better than to push these quick weight loss, "cleansing" and "detox" products, whatever the hell the latter two mean.
If you're back to being a nurse when you overwrap your kid's finger cut, you're also a nurse when you hawk a product that could hurt people and in no way should be taken without the advice of a doctor.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#135), yeah, it looks like we weren't just being bitter, black-hearted busybodies when we questioned the integrity of TFW pushing this product. Sometimes pearls should be clutched.

I think Nurse TFW has been a less-than-stellar role model on many occasions. Like when she was quoted as saying that nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Or bragging about fitting into her teenage daughters' yoga pants. Or spending years crowing about her organic diet, while she loaded her coffee with artificial powdered creamers and sweetners, and squirted her salads with fat-free spray dressing. And her obsession with portion control seems like it would guarantee eating issues with at least some of her kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Wow it's nice to see fans of other celebs calling them out for promoting questionable products like this. Blind loyalty to celebs during moments like this is not a good thing, potentially even harmful to your health. Kate is not the only one under suspicion.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is not the only one under suspicion.

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I don't get it. These other stars who are way further up on the celebrity list need to spend their time hawking stuff on their social media?
Why??? For some free laxative tea and a few shekels?

GollyGee said...

A man who has the Happy Feet character house shoes, was on Shark Tank and said that a huge chunk of marketing money went to a reality star because they wore them on their show.

One of the sharks said, Is it Snookie? Yes, Snookie. But, I have sold a ton of them because she wears them.

I think that Demi Lovato is drawing a much bigger check than 'Ol MaxyWhako's Mommy! TFW is definently on the lower mediocre side.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think that Demi Lovato is drawing a much bigger check than 'Ol MaxyWhako's Mommy! TFW is definently on the lower mediocre side.
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And yet, Kate has had fans BEG her to tell them what she's wearing and where to buy it, and she mostly completely ignores the requests.
How much money has Ann Taylor given her by now, and she doesn't seem to mention them?

NJGal51 said...

New video up of #NookiePookie catching a ball in her bedroom (after playing outside all day). Nick asked if she took after TFW and drank coffee. TFW replied: "Um. If I have to be honest, she may have hopped up on my bed and sipped some (cold) coffee from my mug....once!🤣"

I guess she pointed out that the coffee was cold because she's, you know, the bestest dog Mom in the world. Never mind that coffee isn't good for dogs nor is the fake creamer that she uses. Oh well, she used a laugh till you cry smiley face so it's all good.

Ingrid said...

The ball looks a little small. After I saw an emergency vet show once where a dalmatian swallowed a tennis ball it worries me when dogs are playing with a ball that could go down their throat.

Sad but true said...

#Nunu at the #CenteroftheUniverse #again. #KGSVideo #Boring #IntheExtreme

kateplusmy8 After allllllll day playing outside, we still have to play ball inside... AND at BEDTIME?!!? And even in my BED??! #HelpMe #Nanuq #LuckyShesCute #KingGermanShepherd #SableColor

nick_moy Nanuq seems to be a lot like you.. no limits to her energy..Does she drink coffee?😄

kateplusmy8 Um. If I have to be honest, I believe she may have hopped up on my bed and sipped some (cold) coffee from my mug...... once! 🤣 @nick_moy

miloandjack2016 LOL Love it that you have a #LittleOne...haha...to aggrevate you at bedtime! She must be getting close to 100lbs now? Surely you still don't pick her up do you? @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 Send us ANOTHER video of her all tired & sacked out now....and since she kepr you up...try to wake her up! #HumanToFurbabyPayback. 😋 @kateplusmy8

Doofus wants another photo of #K8BenchpressingNunu.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#141), if Nookums drank some coffee, I guess it was before TFW switched to tea. Remember, she just claimed to have given up coffee for that amazing tea, with its magical energy heightening powers!

NJGal51 said...

If the whole thing fits in my puppy's mouth it's gone. Also, I don't care how much he loves a particular toy, once he starts to chew pieces off it's gone. Anything can cause a blockage and things like pieces of cloth from toys can't be seen on X-rays but can cause damaged they're not able to pass it. He'll find another favorite in 10 minutes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's odd to me how so very often the things that Kate finds so hilarious funny, are actually things that could cause potential or actual harm to other people or animals. Sometimes I think she's a sociopath.

NJGal51 said...

Aw, just saw the Irwins in the audience on DWTS. Funny how many past contestants you spot in the audience but you never see TFW there.

GollyGee said...

So funny!

The ad under the 15 minutes banner is an ad for Free Stuff.

Free Baby Stuff just sign up with a picture of a cute baby.

Wanna bet she signs up for it? Even though the toddler stage was over 10 years ago.

Sue said...

Well Nick was all fun and games talking about coffee until someone mentioned that their dog had just passed away and Kate answered then all of a sudden Nick has a dog that just passed away this morning ant that dog would have been 18 at then end of this month. If true I'm sorry to hear it however I find it just a bit hard to believe.

Sad but true said...

Border collie? Well, if this isn't BLivinBDyin, he sure has her M.O. down pat. Right down to the dog breed and one upping anyone else's heartache.

nick_moy@miloandjack2016 We have been extremely blessed.. Our (blue) Border Collie passed last June at 17.. Now Samson at 18.. we are truly blessed to have them beyond their normal lifespan... I guess a stress free life helps with longevity.

NJGal51 said...

I agree Sad But True many of us think it's her and have commented on this in the past. Seems like the poor thing is losing dogs left and right.

@MY_BORDERCOLLIE: So sorry for your loss, Whenever you lose your family member,dog, it's so hard and with many tears. I lost my Shih Tzu a few months ago too.

Gayle said...

I think this confirms that Nick and border collie are one in the same.

@MY_BORDERCOLLIE: I agree, the love we receive from our dogs is so pure and without judgement. I lost all 3 of my BC this past year. We got them at same age.😢

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Did TFW respond to Nick saying he/she lost a dog yesterday morning? That's when things can get sticky -- acknowledging some fans and not others.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Free Baby Stuff just sign up with a picture of a cute baby.

Wanna bet she signs up for it? Even though the toddler stage was over 10 years ago.

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Kate will sign up? Why? She doesn't have babies.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Gayle said... 152
I think this confirms that Nick and border collie are one in the same.

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If they are the same person, then Collie is getting very sloppy at maintaining that new identity. How dumb would a person have to be to think that nobody would figure this out?

NJGal51 said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/05/01/these-ohio-quadruplets-all-got-into-harvard-and-yale-now-theyve-made-their-choice/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.afe7a4c34532
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The Wade quads all got in to Yale. I'm sure that they have the grades to back them up and weren't just admitted because they're quads as they all got accepted (individually) into very good schools. I can see TFW's wheels turning now because she probably thinks they got in for being quads and she's got 6 or is it 5....and then there's the twins, oh, wait, they're not unique enough because twins seem to be a dime a dozen these days.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 156
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/05/01/these-ohio-quadruplets-all-got-into-harvard-and-yale-now-theyve-made-their-choice/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.afe7a4c34532
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The Wade quads all got in to Yale. I'm sure that they have the grades to back them up and weren't just admitted because they're quads as they all got accepted (individually) into very good schools
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Kate's yardstick for success is verrrrrrrrry different than most parents'.

"Darrin Wade works for General Electric, while his wife, Kim, is a school principal. The couple, who were initially told that they were expecting twins, have been thinking about this for some time, Darrin Wade said this year."

Yup. Mediocre parents, folks! No reality tv show and fucketybillion vacations and fame and money-hungry parents.

"“Honestly, to have one child from a family be accepted to a school like this is amazing,” Zach Wade told The Post earlier this year. “But for all four to be accepted — I just don’t, I don’t know how it happened.”

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you and your wife are great parents (who parented together!), sacrificed and put your children first, and didn't neglect their needs or think that being there for them 50% of the time, or less, would be ideal.
I'm betting this wasn't an accident and that these young men have been raised with a higher purpose than entertaining the masses like circus animals.

This is what happens when you eschew being a carnival barker in favor of being a parent, first, foremost and always.

Tucker's Mom said...

I can see TFW's wheels turning now because she probably thinks they got in for being quads and she's got 6 or is it 5....and then there's the twins, oh, wait, they're not unique enough because twins seem to be a dime a dozen these days.
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No way Kate wants all her kids to go to Yale or another other school. Some of them are going to have to stay close to home so she's never alone in the compound.
Further, if all her kids go away, go to school, or wherever, and become self-supporting adults, her life as she's known it is over.

Confused said...

How dumb would a person have to be to think that nobody would figure this out?
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Pretty dumb. She thought no one would figure out she'd posted a fake reply from Kate on a memorial page for her husband's death. Oh, and using a Arizona real agent's photo as her own. Oh, and saying a real picture of her was actually her very rich friend who was going to sue the tweeter's for posting it on the internet? She's dumb and crazy,

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm watching Dr. Phil and today's show is about a teenage boy (maybe he's 18 now?) who is a molester JUST like Josh Duggar. He's a repeat offender, molesting his sister and other girls.
There's no way that Josh should be around any children, including his own, until he completes a REAL rehab program and not this cult religion faux treatment.
It's nothing more than white knuckling a bible.

Anyone else watch?

FYI said...

It looks like Kate opened up a FB account. The account was opened a week ago, and it has a verified checkmark. There have been only 2 posts since it was opened. One is a platitude(same one she posted on IG) and the other is a snap chat picture of Nanuq.

https://www.facebook.com/kateplusmy8/

Interesting that she hasn't mentioned anything on twitter or IG about the account. Is she going to wait until new episodes air before making an announcement about it?

This is her full bio from her "about" page. Notice how she threw in that she was a registered nurse and best selling author?

"Mom of 8 human kids, 3 furry kids, and 1 feather kid, reality TV Mom on TLC's Kate Plus 8, Registered Nurse, NYT best selling author, and lover of organization, healthy living and making memories with my family and friends!"

I wonder if TLC was the force behind her opening the account.

GollyGee said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 146
It's odd to me how so very often the things that Kate finds so hilarious funny, are actually things that could cause potential or actual harm to other people or animals. Sometimes I think she's a sociopath.

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Yes, she is, Admin. Any mother that is down right giddy, filming a bestest birthday ever without one of the children who belongs there and goes on and continues to have that creepy smirk on her face is a sociopath.

GollyGee said...

Rainbows and unicorns, I was being snarky.

She is such a greedy person. She forced Jon to research free stuff while at work on the clock. She would sign up to get anything for free.

GollyGee said...

Tucker's, I didn't watch the show but today I saw the pictures of the big, yearly pilgrimage of the Duggars trip to Big Sandy.

Josh looks terrible. He has gained weight and looks unkempt.

I agree, he should of been in normal rehab with real doctors and the girls and the other girl should of been in real, normal, heavy duty counseling.

I blame Jim Bob and Michelle for the coverups. They failed their daughters, the babysitter and their son. He should of been immediately removed from the home and in jail and counseling.

At Jinger's wedding, Josh and his family was there and when the cameras were on him, he would get one of his children he was holding and block his face.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I blame Jim Bob and Michelle for the coverups. They failed their daughters, the babysitter and their son. He should of been immediately removed from the home and in jail and counseling.

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What babysitter? Was it ever confirmed that he was messing around with a sitter?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Pretty dumb. She thought no one would figure out she'd posted a fake reply from Kate on a memorial page for her husband's death. Oh, and using a Arizona real agent's photo as her own. Oh, and saying a real picture of her was actually her very rich friend who was going to sue the tweeter's for posting it on the internet? She's dumb and crazy,

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LOL! And saying that Brad lived in her basement and something about graduating with a set of all-male identical quints. I forget what that was all about.

I don't read her tweets. Do her best sheeple buddies take her seriously?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

KIAT (#161), your sleuthing skills are on point as usual! How weird that TFW hasn't even mentioned the Facebook page. Maybe Gladys will read about it here and pass along the exciting (*yawn*) news.

Sad but true said...

Kate is a twit said... 161

Very interesting. I've been watching her TLC FB page likes go down for weeks now. Down about 4K from when she aired back in January, and by over 100 just today. I think it's been artificially propped up by TLC for quite some time now. Wonder if her opening her own page has anything to do with the decline.

In addition, if she has a FB account, she'll have an easier time tracking her kids' social media forays.

Sad but true said...

She may have opened the FB account in order to do more "influencer"-type ads as well. She can't put those on the TLC page. Presence on all forms of social media seems to be a must for people who are trying to make a living off this stuff. Of course, blogging also helps, but as we know, that's not her strong suit.

Sad but true said...

I wonder how long she'll allow comments on the new page. If she's not able to police full time (and what busy busy single mom of 8 would have the time, lol), will she hire someone to do it? :)

PA Dutch Mom said...

LOL! And saying that Brad lived in her basement and something about graduating with a set of all-male identical quints. I forget what that was all about.

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Would that have been about 20 years ago when he was engaged to Gwyneth Paltrow? Did she live in Border Collie's basement with him? Inquiring minds want to know!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She's a day late and a dollar short with Facebook. What a doofus. It's almost too late now to hop on board that train. You'll forever be playing catch-up. But better late than never I suppose.

I also don't think she's accounting for Facebook pretty much making you use your real name. The fans and haters have such a long standing feud, and there is even some dissension among the factions themselves, that it's rather reckless to put your real name out there. She might find herself with scant few friends too unwilling to go there.

As for the comments, yes she will have to monitor them closely. If FB lets through murder videos, they'll have no problem letting through some comments asking where Collin is.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I'm watching Dr. Phil and today's show is about a teenage boy (maybe he's 18 now?) who is a molester JUST like Josh Duggar. He's a repeat offender, molesting his sister and other girls.
There's no way that Josh should be around any children, including his own, until he completes a REAL rehab program and not this cult religion faux treatment.
It's nothing more than white knuckling a bible.

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Couldn't watch but the experts have explained over and over that not only do you need a full treatment program like this to have any hope of being able to be safe around children, but that even if you do the program, there's no guarantees. Some people can't be cured, and you really need a high level of expertise and experience on your case to be able to make a good recommendation about whether you are cleared as safe to be around children.

There's just no indication that anything like that has happened with Josh, and it's frightening. Worst case scenario, he will hurt one of his own children or even another child in general, and all eyes will be looked toward Anna. The thing is, not only could he lose the kids, but SHE could too, for not being protective of them. Happens ALL THE TIME.

NJGal51 said...

She can buy likes and follows for Facebookbut if caught her page can be taken down because it's against FB TOS.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/does-buying-followers-on-facebook-actually-work.html/?a=viewall

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She can buy likes and follows for Facebookbut if caught her page can be taken down because it's against FB TOS.

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Bingo, she will have a much harder time being anything but genuine on this account. FB will let you post a murder, but god forbid you buy some fake likes and they'll have you ripped down in two hours flat.

In many respects I much prefer Facebook, because they pretty much force you to be a real person with a real name and real photos. It is VERY hard to fool them and very easy to spot fake accounts. People do it, but the fans probably aren't smart enough to pull it off.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@NJGal51 Most of her 1 million followers on the TLC Kateplus8 account are probably a mix between bots and dead accounts.None of the posts really get a big amount of likes anymore and i don't think TLC is helping much because all they do with the account is promote things that have nothing to do with the Gosselins.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Admin i've alot of people left Facebook because many were fed up with how facebook allows both ISIS videos chopping people's heads off and pedophile videos.I've never seen either(Thank God)but if its true,im not sure why facebook would allow those

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


@Admin i've alot of people left Facebook because many were fed up with how facebook allows both ISIS videos chopping people's heads off and pedophile videos.I've never seen either(Thank God)but if its true,im not sure why facebook would allow those

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I'm not sure it's that they allow it versus having difficulty balancing free speech and when they do decide something shouldn't be allowed difficulty getting the abhorrent content taken down quickly and efficiently. They've made it clear they don't support people posting murder videos but in cases where it happens it usually takes many hours to take it down. Zuckerburg himself said a couple years ago he was pretty naive that fb would evolve these sorts of problems as he was just some nerd who created the site to rate hot girls. Dealing with issues of this magnitude seems to still sort of stump him.

The internet is the best and worst thing that's happened this century. Done so much good and so much bad.

FYI said...

Hmm, there's another Kate Gosselin FB page with the same cover photo and wall photo as the verified account. It looks like it was opened on April 6. It also posted the same platitude.

I wonder if Kate first opened a personal account and then when she tried to get verified FB told her she would have to change the account to a Public Figure account, since they only verify accounts listed as Public Figures.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016116705662

I don't think the personal page is fake, because it posted the same pictures before the public figure account was opened.

Interesting that one of the friends listed on the personal page is Vann Walke--her blind date.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Here Kate post this: https://www.google.com/search?q=it%27s+never+ukr+successful.friends+posting+inspirational.quotes&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7rPHD69LTAhWjwVQKHSPpALMQ_AUICSgB&biw=375&bih=559#imgrc=Y5QymOZtW7Dt0M:

FYI said...

In other news---looks like Kim Davis will be going back to court.

http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Court-Gay-couples-suit-against-Kim-Davis-can-proceed-421043963.html

ncgirl said...

I wonder if Kate is trying to monetize social media. Actress Busy Phillips said she made more on social media than acting now. She's more famous and more likable than Kate though.
http://www.eonline.com/news/846889/busy-philipps-say-she-earned-more-from-instagram-posts-than-acting-i-m-not-above-it

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She should have paid someone to run her social media. And her image. Huge mistake. It would have been a significant upfront cost, but it would have paid for itself later on a dozen times over.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#183), I don't even think the initial cost for TFW to get her social media on track would be prohibitive. This is a woman who admits to going to a spa once a month. And she seems to have endless cash to spend on her hair, and myriad cosmetic procedures, and whatever catches her eye on Amazon.

It's just that TFW never seems to think 5 minutes ahead about anything. And she's unteachable -- she thinks she knows it all. She doesn't seem to understand how much bang for the buck she could get out of making her social media profile worthy of notice in such an over-saturated market.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think it's kinda funny how Kate latently and seemingly begrudgingly embraces one social media platform after the other, and technology in general. It's like, "let's dabble in this platform and see if it amuses me".
She masters none and in the end, just winds up neglecting them, leaving each one to languish and die.

In other Kate Gosselin social media news, you can STILL pre-order her cookbook!
Yay!

Tucker's Mom said...

. Of course, blogging also helps, but as we know, that's not her strong suit.

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Kate has no social media strong suit. Her efforts have been embarrassing at best.
The blog never really came to fruition and remained an unfulfilled framework of headers and broken promises.
Kate's twitter became a porn hub and now is a handful of haters with the occasional fan popping by.
Nothing gets answered or responded to.
Her IG account has literally gone to the dogs, and even the most ardent of dog lovers isn't looking for dogs on Kate Gosselin's social media.
Now, FB, which by all accounts, looks as half-assed as everything else.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 183
She should have paid someone to run her social media. And her image. Huge mistake. It would have been a significant upfront cost, but it would have paid for itself later on a dozen times over.
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You would think that any management firm would not only have social media presence management services in the contract, but insist on it.
It doesn't seem like Kate's being managed (by Carson May) anymore.

Tucker's Mom said...

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I agree with you. I'd rather see their day to day activities.

You know the fans are over it when even Goody has had enough of the phony baloney "realest reality show" and the never-ending vacations

Tucker's Mom said...

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/youtube-stars-lose-custody-2-children-following-prank-121605300--abc-news-parenting.html

Yahoo story about 2 YouTube parents who have temporarily lost custody of their kids for pranking them. They put invisible ink on their carpet and blamed the kids, which of course resulted in upsetting them terribly.
They did it for views.

I can't help but think of how horrible Kate was to her kids when she pranked them about going to Mexico with Jamie, and leaving them at home.
At leasts one tup girl became visibly upset and cried, all with a camera trained on and zooming in on her.
Why is it that Kate Gosselin can get away with this type of cruelty for kicks and ratings?
Why is it that seeing the Gosselin kids upset and crying, which helps drive the drama and thus ratings, is not seen as abusive?

I swear, children are seen as not fully human, STILL.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#188), what the fans probably don't realize is that the real "day-to-day activities" at Ms. Gosselin's Home for Exploited Children are never going to be shown. The kids are at school all day. And from what we can tell, TFW is mostly holed up in her room, even when they are home. She has that luxury because she has lots of help, which she sure as heck doesn't want the cameras to capture. Unless she can pass them off as "family friends."

And weekends? On TFW's own dime, it doesn't seem like a whole heck of a lot happens. Libraries? Museums? Local attractions? Grabbing a picnic blanket and heading out to the park? Visits to nearby relatives, of which there are dozens? If those things ever happen, TFW sure doesn't mention them.

Alas, poor viewer, all you're left with is watching a rich woman masquerading as a
piecing-and-patching single mother, taking
7 children on free trip after free trip, and getting a paycheck in the bargain.

GollyGee said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 165

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Yes. A girl, a hired live-in babysitter was molested by Josh. He molested his sisters and a babysitter.

Anna is crazy for taking Josh back. I wonder if she thinks if Josh was to hurt one of the children that everything would be alright. Just pray about it and send him to be a "carpenter" rehab again and welcome him back with open arms. Insane.

It won't work this time around. He will lose his children and she will too. She is playing with fire. If something were to happen, county could take all of the kids and put them into foster care and they could be split up. Even if Jim Bob and Michelle petitioned the county to get custody of them, it's possible that they would not let them have custody of them because of the easy access Josh has to be around them.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

In other Kate Gosselin social media news, you can STILL pre-order her cookbook!
Yay!

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Will it be released in time for Mother's Day delivery?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


Would that have been about 20 years ago when he was engaged to Gwyneth Paltrow? Did she live in Border Collie's basement with him? Inquiring minds want to know!

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I'm sure that she, Gwyneth and Gwyneth's mother, Blythe, get together at NYC's top restaurants for frequent dinners, sans Brad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I believe there was a lot of clues based on the police reports that the "babysitter" non-sibling who was molested was someone we knew from the show. Does anyone remember? Was it that cousin of theirs?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

MsGoody2Shoes21_‏ @MsGoody2Shoes33 May 2
I agree with you. I'd rather see their day to day activities.

Duh.So what they want to see are the kids getting off the bus, heading home, doing their chores, eating dinner, working on their homework, watching re-runs of their show and going to bed?

Sounds like something that will certainly up the ratings and provide for exciting evening entertainment. Could the bar be set any lower? Dumbing down of America, Goody.

RoxyHelen said...

GollyGee said... 191

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 165

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Yes. A girl, a hired live-in babysitter was molested by Josh. He molested his sisters and a babysitter.

Anna is crazy for taking Josh back. I wonder if she thinks if Josh was to hurt one of the children that everything would be alright. Just pray about it and send him to be a "carpenter" rehab again and welcome him back with open arms. Insane.

It won't work this time around. He will lose his children and she will too. She is playing with fire. If something were to happen, county could take all of the kids and put them into foster care and they could be split up. Even if Jim Bob and Michelle petitioned the county to get custody of them, it's possible that they would not let them have custody of them because of the easy access Josh has to be around them.


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Perhaphs they should all lose custody of those four beautiful children. Is anyone who thinks a child molester should have 24/7 unsupervised acces to children actually a good guardian or parent? I don't think so. If their mother is willing to expose those two little girls in particular to potential rape, I'm sorry but I'm not convinced she deserves them.

RoxyHelen said...

Tucker's Mom said... 189

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/youtube-stars-lose-custody-2-children-following-prank-121605300--abc-news-parenting.html

Yahoo story about 2 YouTube parents who have temporarily lost custody of their kids for pranking them. They put invisible ink on their carpet and blamed the kids, which of course resulted in upsetting them terribly.
They did it for views.

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Yes, this is the case I mentioned last week but I didn't give a link. It was more than just pranks, the kids were hit on camera and clearly emotionally abused. The two kids bio mom(E and C's mom) found the videos and with a bit of help from the public(the public outrage truly helped in this case I believe) and a PRO BONO lawyer, she managed to get emergency custody of her kids(Who had allegedly been illegally witheld from her). Remember how a few weeks back I talked about the possibility of Jon fighting to get a pro bono lawyer, if money is an issue and get to see all his 8 kids? How is it that this mother could but Jon can't? I'm seeing a bunch of examples, especially lately, of parents in Jon's position, without lots of money or whose children have been alienated and I'm seing those parents move mountains(figuratively) and managing to get their kids back and I just can't see how Jon can't do the same. I take no pleasure in saying this, I am not trying to make Jon to be the devil but how can I believe there is nothing he can do when I see all these other parents manage? When Alexis came to visit him and she was full of blisters(or whatever) from that poison ivy that Kate had her pull out, when the children showed up at school with rotting lunches, when Hannah went to Jon and told him how Collin was being mistreated, how are you telling me Jon had no proof that his kids were suffering and therefore there was nothing he could do?

RoxyHelen said...

Oh and here's another thing about the YT case: once the dad and stepmom lost custody of the two children, they refused to hand over the two kids' MEDICATION, refused to tell the authorities who the prescribing pediatrician is and what the chilren's diagnosises were. How's that for messed up?

GollyGee said...

Day to Day activities???

Oh, Mylanta!

Why not put a small GoPro strapped to their head, live stream it and then you can watch what each one does each day!

TFW would charge a monthly fee, of course.

Brushing their teeth, feeding the pups, taking a shower, eating cereal, going to school, going to their dads.

Is that what you want? I believe you do.

GollyGee said...

There was a pop-up for this article called Power of Positivity. Thought of Milo.

Power of Positivity would like to send you a "push notifications" to help stay positive! lol

As per the Mayo Clinic, the definition of a narcissist is “someone who has an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others.”

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) causes many issues in all aspects of a person’s life. It affects work, school, relationships and other matters. It can worsen with depression and addiction. Someone who is a narcissist is usually unhappy and easily disappointed by others for not receiving the special treatment they believe to deserve.

Their relationships are usually empty and disconcerting. Their reality doesn’t measure up to their beliefs of what they see in themselves. It’s hard for the narcissist to accept that the world doesn’t revolve around them alone. You can detect a narcissist pretty quickly when you begin to notice the red flags.

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/8-signs-narcissist/?c=pop

TFW made an A on this test.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Has TFW mentioned the tups' big birthday yet? My guess is she's she's avoiding talking about it because of the elephant in the room: will 6 children be celebrating this year, or only 5 again?

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