Saturday, April 15, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "Sweet 16": Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

Coming up on Kate Plus 8. Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

They show a lot of sweet photos and clips of the girls growing up, some I don't remember seeing before. You would almost be fooled into thinking this is a nice family with twins with no screaming and hollering going on. This is a time for Kate to reflect all about herself.  Ultimately Kate doesn't worry about the twins because she knows they will make good decisions. Kind of like their decision not to see their father?

Kate gives the girls Gator driving lessons. Wait, I swear the kids were driving the Gator a year ago when they first got this. Now they get lessons?

Like so many other teens I've encountered these days, oddly, Mady doesn't really care much about getting her license. Kind of a, I'll get it when I get it attitude. She doesn't go anywhere really except school and home. Sad.

My theory on this, and it's totally a theory, is that kids today are so much better connected with their peers than we were as kids, and therefore, don't feel that compelling drive (I can make dumb puns too just like Kate) to get behind the wheel and hit the road. We had to learn to drive, because there was no texting or iPhones, and when we called Ashley's house on the good ole fashioned telephone, we either got the answering machine, or were told by her slightly annoyed mother, sorry she can't talk now she's doing her homework/at scouts/at soccer/practicing the trumpet/being punished. I never met a teen in my class who wasn't gunning to drive. We had to get going behind the wheel to drive to each other or risk never connecting with each other again outside the hours of 7:30am to 2:30pm. A 2017 kid can text Ashley, FaceTime, instagram and snapchat her, and get instant feedback from Ashley, and therefore doesn't feel as compelled to get in the car and drive somewhere to meet up with Ashley. The need teens have is simply to connect to peers and exchange feedback. It's clear that connection doesn't have to be in person just so long as they're getting a lot of it and it's instant. I like my theory, personally.

What does "over-start" the gator mean? I don't understand over-start. This has to be fake, Mady driving into the plants. Or Mady is driving erratically purposely for attention.

Cara says the most she has said all season, in that she actually used to think she would like to get her license because she would like to be able to drive herself over to Lancaster (where their school is) for lacrosse and such, but then she found out that apparently, she is not going to ever be allowed to drive that far. Forbidden by Kate, presumably. And therein lies one of the stupidest reasons ever to send them to a private school so far away. It's too far. So many of us warned that this commute was going to be a beast, especially when they got older and had to get themselves to school more often and for longer days and establish a group of friends over on that side of town that they want to see outside of school or even sometimes have to see, for school projects and study groups. And there it is. And sadly, Cara is losing out on valuable practice time behind the wheel while she is still under an adult's supervision. Practice time that is crucial and can be the difference between a teen ending up in a horrific accident before they are 20, or getting through the most dangerous years on the road unscathed. A public school or even a private school five to ten miles away would be close enough to make most parents comfortable with their child driving that distance, while still giving them practice time on the road. A shame.

I really don't know how much value a driving lesson on a Gator is to driving a real car in real traffic. They'll be ready to whiz around their retirement neighborhood in Florida someday, but little else.

Moving on to planning the party, Kate and Mady fight endlessly over ideas they're looking at on their MacBooks. Looks like Pinterest. Mady hates all of Kate's ideas for the party. In this case, since we know Kate has no style or taste, I'm thinking we have nothing to lose leaving this to Mady. Kate keeps trying to micromanage this, while Mady obviously would prefer to make the calls and is proud to plan it herself. Mady is sixteen years old. At this age, couldn't her mother just give her a budget to spend, a couple hundred bucks or whatever, and let her do this on her own? Mady wants to, she gets enjoyment out of party planning, and it's good for a child this age to take on such a major responsibility. And if Mady slips up and forget something important like the forks, then so be it. That's part of learning how to plan things responsibly, a life skill.

Three days before the party they're meeting with a baker about the cake? That's cutting it awfully close. I don't buy that. This episode feels more staged than usual.

Cara is really resisting helping to plan, won't give an opinion on anything, and doesn't even really want a party. She sounds self-conscious and reserved, easily embarrassed, which is normal for many teens that age. It's funny, because some teens like Mady want nothing but attention, to be the star of the high school play. Others want just the opposite, and would be mortified to have to go on stage or anything of the like. That was me, and I remember that feeling where you were embarrassed even to say you preferred chocolate cake over vanilla. God knows where that comes from but thankfully most teens outgrow it. It seems like teens are usually one extreme or the other. What doesn't make any sense is why a reserved teen would want anything to do with filming. My hunch is, she sure as hell doesn't and is being forced to comply, so she resists in any way she can, including refusing to say much on the couch or cooperate with things like party planning.

Mady has bullied her way into holding the reins here, which is what you have to do when your mother is Kate. Heh, I like how much it bothers Kate to have no say in things. Like watching someone who can't reach an itch in the middle of their back.

Another shopping trip to some kind of craft store. Kate says something like Mady wants to control things for the sake of controlling them, whatever that means. And doesn't that really more aptly describe Kate? This conversation about how Mady and Kate disagree over how to decorate for the party feels like it's going on hours. I can't anymore.

Finally they take two full carts of booty to the checkout for the company credit card, plus some Junior Mints. I always get flashbacks to that classic show Supermarket Sweep when I watch Kate shop on the company card. She tossed those Junior Mints into the cart like they are the special bonus item of the day worth $150. You should always focus on going after the bonus items and make sure to grind the coffee and get the frozen yogurt first. Don't be a fool wasting time on the turkeys, that's for chumps. Such a good show.



The day of the birthday, Kate is running around the house in a total panic. She starts taking out salmon for 20-30 salmon burgers and laments about how it's supposed to be foggy and rainy and this will ruin everything. Well, you planned a birthday party for the outdoors in Pennsylvania in October. Odds are the weather will stink. Why on earth didn't you have a Plan B you could easily turn to, like, I don't know, move the party to inside the house if the weather is bad? She really is a helpless twelve-year-old.

I'm kind of speechless at this next part because it's just so nuts on every level. Kate calls up her "friends" Chrissy and Todd. Remember them? They own the beef jerky place they agreed to be promoted on the sextuplets' birthday episode. Kate knows they have some kind of party room at their store, whatever that means, calls them up, and asks them if they could have the twins'  party at their store due to the weather. I think that's such an incredible thing to ask of someone at the last minute that I'm embarrassed. And remember, she's not just asking them to have 20-30 people over, but also to bring in a whole film crew to their store and film there. Wha? Why not just have it at the Mcmansion, inside? What's the point in buying a mansion like this if you don't have room indoors for a simple party of 20-30 people? Plus, hauling all the party crap they bought to a different location is a huge chore. Shaking my head.

And what are the odds that Chrissy and Todd just happened to be available that very afternoon to have 20-30 people over last minute? Don't most normal families with kids usually have plans over the holiday weekend? Like I said, this episode feels staged. I think all along they were going to have it at Chrissy and Todd's if it rained.

Kate quickly realizes a location change is a logistical nightmare. Of course it is. The kids are upset at how stressed out she is, as they should be. Even Mady, who sometimes can bring the drama, is like, what is the big freaking deal? We have a location now, the food is being cooked as we speak, it doesn't matter. Why on earth didn't she make the salmon the day before? That easily could have been done yesterday, it'll keep. Or pick some other food you can make the day before. Or heaven forbid order a bunch of pizzas and make it easy on yourself. Kate does this purposely I'm convinced, intentionally makes things as difficult as possible on herself. It's a martyr complex, maybe.

Ha, when Kate goes on about how she can't just show up at the party in work clothes and no makeup, Mady says no one is going to care if she's not there. Uh, actually, that's true. This is a party for 16-year-old girls, not their mothers. Nobody will notice whose mother is where or when. You just don't care at that age. Kate randomly launches into a bizarre rant looking straight into the camera, globs of sweat dotting her forehead, about how she does not have a nanny or housekeeper or hired help. Number one, yes you do, and it's all on film. Number two, grow up, Kate. If you don't have a nanny or housekeeper at the moment, get one. You can afford it. That's not our fault you allegedly don't have help that day for whatever reason. And she doesn't even need to pay people to not be so overwhelmed with this party. If one had friends and family, one could ask their best friends, their sister and sister-in-laws, their mother, and so on, to come on over. Something tells me the likes of women she has discarded like Beth and Jodi would have been all too happy to come over and help out today. And what about Jon? It's her choice not to get along with him for one day and put on a party together for the children they made together when they were once in love. Lots of divorced couples do this for their children all the time. Unfortunate.

Mady has to point out to Kate that a party is supposed to be fun. Making salmon burgers, party planning, picking up flowers, is all supposed to be fun. You might be confused who is the adult and who is the child here, but Kate is supposed to be the adult. There's so much yelling and whining about the stupidest things, I cannot even imagine growing up in this house. You know what's interesting is that over and over Kate has emphasized how she just wants this to be perfect on this special day which is why she's having a meltdown, and over and over Mady and even Cara have told her that it's okay. Maybe the twins didn't articulate it quite clearly so doofus could understand it, but I'm not getting the impression at all the twins are demanding this be "perfect." They just want to have a good time and be with their friends. Kate doesn't listen or pay attention to what her children are saying or what they really need. If she did, she would understand that what's far more important to the twins and all her children is that this day is chill and happy. "Perfect" is not what anybody else is after but doofus here. In fact if she would breathe for a second, she would realize that sometimes the most imperfect things make the best memories. The laugh you had when the icing stuck to the lid of the cake box, how muddy everyone got splashing in puddles when the party got rained on, the way Auntie's car wouldn't start when it was time to leave and she had to spend the night and you stayed up late with popcorn and a Disney movie with her. The best memories are often made in life's little hiccups and imperfections, aren't they?

I don't think it's unfair to say that Kate has ruined so many special things for her children like birthdays with her insanity, and this 16th birthday is no exception.

By the way, the house is incredibly cluttered. Random papers, bins, gadgets sitting out, all kinds of miscellaneous stuff. You couldn't even sit at the dining room table if you wanted to. It's always like this, not just before parties. You know, it's not a capital offense to be cluttered, but sometimes, it can contribute to a stressful household, especially if there is already so much stress there already. Everyone might feel a lot better if she would just put stuff away.

Kate thinks that Mady being so parentified by comforting her lunatic mother is "adorable." Oh, brother.

Where's Colin? Just saying.

So, back to the beef jerky change-up, how are they going to make sure 20-30 people know about this sudden location change? Who worked up the permits for this so fast, and what are the odds that the jerky place just happened to be totally available today on a holiday weekend? This is more fake than ever, not that this show isn't fake to begin with.

Nothing happens during this next part except a dress got steamed for a child who doesn't appreciate what a pain that is, and the twins call Kate "Mother" again. I love when they do that.


Kate says the younger children can't come to the party because there is not enough space in the venue. I don't have a problem with that. No teenager wants their kid brothers and sisters at their party. They can do a more intimate family party later and include the sextuplets. What I find hilarious, though, is that Kate just went on a tirade letting us know that contrary to popular belief she does not have a nanny! So who the heck stayed with the younger kids last minute while Kate and the twins were gone? They're a little young to be left by themselves all afternoon. If only to make sure someone is after them to do their homework and that no one burns the house down making grilled cheese.

Kate sure has a sudden group of old friends from various places like lamaze class of all things. Who are all these seemingly nice, down-to-earth people and their pretty daughters and why doesn't Kate contact them when she's feeling so overwhelmed to help her out? Does she not understand this is what a good girlfriend would be happy to do, help out their overwhelmed friend? Is she afraid if she asks for help she'll be asked to return the favor at some point? Or are these people really not all that close friends perhaps? Does she just like the drama and martyrdom of doing it without help? She had no problem letting Jon do it all. So many questions in this episode, and no answers.

Another complaint about TLCgo. Halfway through this episode, about now, when they were showing more endless ads, their ad for Amazon prime froze the rest of the video. Thinking it a glitch, I refreshed it. Went through all the ads again, because they make you, and the Amazon prime froze the darn thing again! After giving it one more try to the same results, I switched over to a bootleg copy found on Youtube. TLCgo is a hot mess. Take it down and re-write the code because it's garbage.

Some marginally handsome dude named Ronnie shows up. Maybe in his late 20's. Kate identifies him as their hair stylist and dear friend from NYC. They have a lot of dear friends who don't actually live in their town, don't they? Both the twins absolutely adore him. Maybe it's me, but this lovey-dovey relationship seems a little odd. I'm all for kids having older mentors, but the hair stylist? I think I would feel better about it if I knew they also had people in their lives they ran to like that like a grandma, or an Aunt Jodi, or a special Sunday school teacher or scout leader. Their circle is just not rounded out with the normal people one would expect a child to really adore and look up to, and it's strange and unfortunate. This guy is not going to be there for these kids through thick and thin as they go through life, like a relative or other close friend would be. It's fun now because he's just starting his career and befriending celebrity families, but he'll settle in soon and realize he has no time for this latching on nonsense and move on.

Mady lets loose that Ronnie was the best surprise ever, except for her laptop. So, she got a laptop for her birthday? This family can finagle a hair stylist and a laptop for a birthday present but not basic day-to-day hired help? Huh.

Back at the ranch, Kate sends an ice cream food truck to pay the younger kids a visit because she felt guilty they couldn't be at the party. Is this for real? The cost of a private food truck visit is outrageous. The way this woman pisses away money then turns around and complains she lacks basic rich people things like a housekeeper, is bizarre. 

This next part has a huge back story to it that I'm only going to summarize ever so briefly, in part because I don't even remember all the details of it, but folks can feel free to elaborate on it in the comments. And that is guess who is watching the kids? A fan! A creepy one too! This is so f-ed up! She's known around these parts as Brownie. On this blog there is a wealth of information about her and her creepy antics that goes back, I'm not even joking, until at least 2011. I did a quick google search of the blog for her, and found some posts to highlight about her. One, from an old poster Red Sky at Night, was talking about how Brownie was incessantly tweeting Kate about meeting up, having coffee with her, seeing NYC with her, and that Kate would just ignore her. And then there were the posts and posts about the expired cereal incident, as explained by good ole poster No Regrets, who said Brownie was going on and on about how she only spent 95 cents a box instead of five bucks, and 21 boxes were for Kate. "Just reading that woman is exhausting," remarked No Regrets. LOL!

I guess crazy as she sounds on twitter, Brownie actually has a legitimate job in real life as an art teacher. (Allegedly. I mean, I could say I'm an art teacher, too. Doesn't make it so.) But how in the holy f--- did she end up not only on this show but watching the kids alone??? How do you go from, I'm a creepy pest on Twitter, to, and now I'm the babysitter left alone with the kids?! What a hot mess. John Lennon, Kate. Jodi Foster. Rebecca Schaeffer. Wake the F up.

Also, another big fat clue that this whole "rained out birthday party oh noooes!" was all staged? How did Kate so quickly set up an art teacher to come stay with the sextuplets and arrange for a food truck to swing by? Gimme an ever loving break. I also find it to be an absolutely glaring omission that Kate doesn't mention, oh by the way, Brownie is just a fan I met on twitter. She paints a rosy picture like this is some art teacher perhaps from school or they met at scouts, and that's just nonsense, a lie. If you're going to be so unbelievably stupid as to allow your fans to have unfettered access to your children like this, at least be honest about it. Also, who thinks Brownie has been angling for a role on this show for years? I betchya a whole lot of DM's were exchanged before this finally happened. This really takes the cake brownie!

Creepy Brownie fan is in the bathroom with Aaden, washing off paint from his face. Good Lord. At least she's a teacher, allegedly, so at least we know someone, somewhere, has done some kind of background check on her at some point, one hopes.


I think this was the episode that got decent ratings out of the rest of the dismal season, and I kind of see why now. It's actually a tiny bit interesting in that it's so....unbelievably.....insane.

The twins lament that the younger kids can say very mean and nasty things. The twins are just as nasty, so I don't really think they should talk.

I can't stand when adults totally exaggerate a child's accomplishments. Brownie calls the actually somewhat messy paint job the kids did on picture frames for the twins "phenomenal." No, it was mostly just mediocre, not even close to phenomenal. And, a lot of the kids were goofing off, messing around during the project, which is not good behavior when one is trying to focus and paint something nice for their sisters. I daresay some of them didn't even try, and Brownie isn't about to be hard on them lest she mess up this once in a lifetime gig. Even some of the kids admit they stink at painting. In any case, a "good job" is sufficient and doesn't give kids an inflated sense of their own crappy skills. Next thing you know you've got some delusional kid setting his sights on majoring in the arts when at best all he can throw together is an ugly finger painting.

Swish back to the Pinterest party. Salmon burgers, and, pesto spaghetti? That's interesting. I'm all for kids getting to pick what they would like to eat on their birthday, but out of courtesy to their many guests, they should have offered something else too almost everyone will eat and enjoy, like your standard marinated chicken strips, or a pizza. Their combo is too weird to appeal to many people, and it's rude to only offer that. At the end of the day Kate is still as rude and inconsiderate as ever, unable to think and realize that their menu is bizarre and not appealing to many.

Oh I just LOVE when Kate gets caught in the lie. Remember how she insisted for years that she really needed to sign up for filming so that their memories could be video taped? Well now she says she filmed almost every moment of the twins when they were babies herself. This was long before the show, remember. So, if it was no problem to film it all yourself, every moment of it, why does one need a camera crew in the first place? What a liar.

Kate herself, she claims at the request of the twins, put together a bunch of clips of the girls from when they were babies to show at the party. It ended up being half an hour. Mady and Cara say on the couch that they actually asked Kate to make a video montage for them only, not to show at the party to everyone, but Kate twisted their request all around. And they said the video was an hour. Yikes. Wouldn't a much better idea be to have this video playing on a loop in the background throughout the party? I've seen that at birthday parties, weddings, and anniversaries, and it works well. That way no one feels obligated to sit down and hush up through a big long montage of boring home videos, but people can still watch and enjoy them throughout the party on their own terms. The way Kate structured it, this film brought the party to an awkward, screeching halt.

The guests are extraordinarily polite, sitting there acting engaged and interested in this very long drawn out boring home video. Oh, there's her stupid "The Gosselin Twins" sign she tacked to the twins' stroller, the very first flicker we ever had of what her ambitions really were. She says that patriotic decorated stroller was part of a competition and she won. She took the competition very seriously, so much so that she blackened the windows of their garage so no one could see her working on the project. Yes Kate, other competitors are going to illegally sneak onto your property peer through garage windows and try to get a peek at your lame decorations and then steal the idea. That's not psycho thinking at all. But yet another fascinating glimpse into how she is wired and how she sees the world.

Kate seems embarrassed at how she looks in this videos. She looks a little dated, sure, with that stupid headband and the tucked in solid colored blouses, but it was 2001, what do you expect? (Hey, how crazy is it that how we all looked in 2001, the year of 9-11, seems so dated now?) Other than that I think she looks young, fresh, normal, and decidedly un-plastic, untouched by the downside of fame and fortune. In short, I think the woman looked good in 2001. Sad she doesn't see it.

I hate when Kate speaks for all mothers. No, not all mothers want their kids to go back to being babies. Some mothers actually enjoy the different stages of their children's lives as they happen, one to the next, and don't constantly long for them to be nine months old. Sheesh.

Kate is really putting huge emotional burdens on the twins about them turning 16. It's a big deal, sort of yes, but it's not that big of a deal. Graduation and going off to college are way worse, how on earth will she handle that?

As they light the candles on the cute cake, Kate proceeds to rattle off 16 things she loves about the twins, which she admits she didn't prepare. That's too many things not to prepare, what a lazy doofus. She ends up saying stupid stuff like I love that you didn't light yourself on fire lighting the candles. Dolt.

These guests are one in a million listening to all this so politely, but I can see a glimmer of impatience finally breaking their smiles. No doubt at some point, the 16-year-old guests would like to hang out and laugh and party with their 16-year-old friends and have this stop being all about Kate.

Thinking back to all the Sweet 16 parties I went to as a kid and I never remember the mothers being so front and center. I don't begrudge adults who have been in their lives wanting to be here for the party, but for goodness sake, have a separate area for the adults so the kids can have some space to enjoy the party just among themselves. As I recall for my 16th, I had a bunch of girlfriends spend the night undisturbed by the adults. Then later on that weekend I had a party for family--immediate family, grandparents from both sides, cousins local to the area, and close family friends. Separating it out like that gives a 16 year old a chance to really just be with their friends, which is so important at that age, while still making sure this event can be marked by family, too. There are so many quick and easy compromises like that Kate could take that she never does.

The party is finally over and Mady says now they're going to go make smores on the deck. Please tell me they will finally be able to do something without all the adults there. Wait, I thought it was raining and they couldn't do things outside?

The twins were very appreciative and sincere about creepy Brownie's art projects the younger kids made, so that was a relief. It's sad when every time someone in this family does something nice for someone else, I brace for impact waiting for the other person to say something rude or ungrateful or otherwise blow them off.

Mercifully, it looks like the girls are having their bonfire without any adults. What a massive relief, finally!

Kate claims the twins thanked her for days and days afterwards. And days. I don't find that representative of how truly grateful they are. Rather it's a red flag that children are fearful that their gratitude is not sinking in with their parent, or that they are otherwise on pins and needles with that parent, and so they do things like that over and over to ensure the parent is appeased. It's a sign of insecurity and dysfunction, Kate.

We close with some more old clips to fill up the rest of the time. Ha, the editors snuck in an old clip of Mady in an Em Tanner shirt. Hey-ya, Em!

Kate doesn't know if she really deserves to be their mother. Nope, she doesn't. See ya next time for the season finale.

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All This Is That said...

Gee Whiz‏ @GeeWhiz__ 10h10 hours ago
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Replying to @MsGoody2Shoes33 @Kateplusmy8
Guess they're so hateful no one wants them around.

Kind of like Milo. The neighbors fled during the night with no forwarding address, and the sheep down under hid from poor Gladys until Milo did some detective work and found her!

Kylie said...

Kate is such a bitch. Even to Milo/Heidi/whoever. So damn rude.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

McDonalds employees from Harborcreek Township, Pennsylvania, displayed an incredible amount of bravery today. They spotted the Facebook killer in the drive through, stalled, and called police. They risked their lives to stall him so police could arrive. Without those precious seconds he could have gotten away. I hope they get not only the reward money, but whatever awards and recognitions PA government bestows upon civilians. It was such a touching example of the justice that can be done by ordinary people if we all band together against evil.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Kylie (#3), it was particularly jarring to see TFW respond so curtly to Gladys just a couple of days after the woman went on a wild rubber chicken chase for her. But, hey, when you set the bar that low for what you consider a friendship, I guess you get what you get and you don't get upset.

GollyGee said...

You can just feel the air deflating out of that tweet she tweeted to Milo.

Yea, she's perturbed.

Love the hashtag jumping the gun! hahaha!

#BubbleBuster

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So MaxieWaxie and Nannie Poo Poo turn 1 today. Not so sure it's a smart move for TFW to point out that milestone, considering her son has probably never even seen them.
#CWho?#OneYearGone#SevenIsEnough

Tucker's Mom said...

I hope they get not only the reward money, but whatever awards and recognitions PA government bestows upon civilians. It was such a touching example of the justice that can be done by ordinary people if we all band together against evil.
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I hope the McDonald's worker(s) get the reward and the recognition for their bravery. I don't know if I would have tried to stall that crazy guy, and just let him drive the hell away and breathe a sigh of relief.
That they held him there, knowing how dangerous and deadly he was, is incredible.
I have no doubt that if Stephens got more desperate and more bold, he would have said, "screw it" and shot more people before taking himself out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


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I hope the McDonald's worker(s) get the reward and the recognition for their bravery. I don't know if I would have tried to stall that crazy guy, and just let him drive the hell away and breathe a sigh of relief.
That they held him there, knowing how dangerous and deadly he was, is incredible.


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The guy was capable of anything. He had already shot an elderly man point blank in the head. A man he didn't know, a man just minding his own business.

God knows how many lives they saved by saying one simple thing: your fries are going to be a couple extra minutes, sir.

Give them a medal.

Kylie said...

Flimsy (5), You would think the sheep would finally catch on to the fact that she is not a nice person in any way. Milo has been nothing but supportive to her, and even though I think she is weird and creepy, that is not a reason for Kate to treat her the way she did in public.

Sad but true said...

And there it is.

kateplusmy8 Happy FIRST Birthday to our newest family members! Last year at this time, our dream of growing our (furry) family came true when Shokas puppies were born! We love all TEN of you and are so glad we have #Mak and #Nanuq in our lives! Your natural ability to reduce stress in our house (while causing a different kind of stress from time to time lol) is amazing and just what we needed! We love you! 🎉🎈🎉🎈#PuppyPartyTime #MorePicsToCome #DogsOfInstagram

"Our dream of growing our family"? Growing or substituting? What a strange thing to say. I'm quite sure that while her kids no doubt welcomed and love the puppies, they weren't sitting around dreaming about "growing" their family. That was all you and Figure 8, K8.

carlyamitchell Can you make an instagram just for your dogs? 😂

Uh, looks like her IG is at least 75% her dogs. You want another one? LOL

Sad but true said...

Is he really suggesting a "family" pic without Collin? Wow, he's a close runner-up to old Doofus.

nick_moy Happy Birthday Nanuq and Mak. From time to time we speak to our pets, not to get a respond but to listen to ourselves, sometimes you get a different perspective hearing the words than thinking of them.. so definitely a stress reliever. Also was thinking it will be awesome if you @kateplusmy8 if you haven't yet take family pictures with ALL 14 or 15 of you..😊🎂🎂

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Any Insta news from TFW yet on the big puppy birthday? I refuse to give her any clicks, but, as Ricky Ricardo would say,
I'm on pins and niddles!

Sad but true said...

I guess K8 gave up on deleting comments on the now-infamous Easter pic, lol.

elviswildwood @lyrisamore @beach.dreams1114 they were on the cover of People without him and she seemed 2 have no problem with that!

elviswildwood@barbgilmer1 but Kate puts her business out there for EVERYONE 2 c doesn't she??#fairgame

lyrisamore @elviswildwood uhmmm don't include me in your comment I don't know who you are or what you're talking about and I was speaking about the twins. If you're mad about something I'm not apart of it and so leave me out of your comment box thanks ✌🏽

k8i31 Right on@kate+my8 and everyone defending her! Because Collin is family, and I especially love the ten fingers comment! I can't imagine the pain Kate goes through! You guys that make comments make it worse - and yet Kate was still brave enough to do the right thing. #Love# What's so bad about Specialed anyway? #Wegoontocollegeandget4.0s#andSpecialeddegreestohelpkidslikeCollin#he'sperfect#lovethepic#cantwaittoseeGosselinspringbreakandsummervacayadveduresandmemories!

phalynsproule lol no one cares!! 130k followers!! What a joke! Get his family off TV. Kate your a horrible human being!!!!!

That k8i31 person seems to lapse into #hashtag_ incontinence there. Everyone still believes Collin is "special'ed"? When did she ever use that phrase? I always got the sense it was more like she "didn't know how to help him."

foxy said...

Honey Boo Boo lost episodes are being aired this Friday I wonder if they are going to bring that show back. hmmmmm

NJGal51 said...

kateplusmy8 Happy FIRST Birthday to our newest family members! Last year at this time, our dream of growing our (furry) family came true when Shokas puppies were born! We love all TEN of you and are so glad we have #Mak and #Nanuq in our lives! Your natural ability to reduce stress in our house (while causing a different kind of stress from time to time lol) is amazing and just what we needed! We love you! 🎉🎈🎉🎈#PuppyPartyTime #MorePicsToCome #DogsOfInstagram
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"We love all TEN of you"...All TEN of who? Were there 10 puppies in the litter? She's got a picture holding the two of them when they both fit in one of her hands together and their eyes don't even look open yet. What reputable breeder would let you hold a puppy that young?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#11), thanks for the info! Yes, "our dream of growing our family" is an odd
comment.

I'm sure that troubled little boy who got sent away was thinking, gosh, I wish there was more chaos in this house, and some more living creatures to take away what little attention I get from my mother.

Dad - C = Maq + Nanuq. It's the new math.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Foxy (#15), Mama June did something TFW was never capable of doing -- revive her career by doing something different.

June is as famewhore-y as TFW, but she seems to have made the most of the opportunity to shift the focus of her show. Meanwhile, K+8 is now just "Watch my kids and me take trips," as the ratings go lower and lower.

Tucker's Mom said...

foxy said... 15
Honey Boo Boo lost episodes are being aired this Friday I wonder if they are going to bring that show back. hmmmmm
April 19, 2017 at 12:20 PM
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I doubt it. TLC is just taking advantage of June's ratings on another network and decided to air her shows now that the public evidently has a very short memory, or doesn't even care that she lied about being involved with a pedophile molester.
Now that she's not radioactive, they'll recoup their investment.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Flimsy (5), You would think the sheep would finally catch on to the fact that she is not a nice person in any way. Milo has been nothing but supportive to her, and even though I think she is weird and creepy, that is not a reason for Kate to treat her the way she did in public.

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That's a tough call. If she's nice to her, treats her as one of the chosen sheep, Milo will just never stop crawling up her rear end. Being nice to her only encourages her. It's all about setting boundaries, and unfortunately, Kate didn't learn how to do this, as she should have figured out at the beginning of their "relationship." I can't imagine what it would be like having someone like Milo in my life. She really is a butt-in-ski and a creeper.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Nasty? Perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black. Spot on, troll! Sheeple hypocrisy at its best.

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They just can't look into the mirror and see what's staring back at them. The troll is nasty, rude and condescending and has the balls to call someone else nasty. What in heaven's name is wrong with them that they have no self-awareness? Sheeple hypocrisy indeed.

Sad but true said...

Aw, dual pups' 1st-bday post has fallen kind of flat in terms of likes, only 4K in 10 hrs. And so now we'll try individual portraits. First up? Mak! Who's surprised?
Raise your hand.

kateplusmy8Happy 1st birthday Mak! #PhotoShoot #Precious #KingGermanShepherd #ShokasSon

It's a #PhotoShoot! Is it for #People? Is it for #TLC? Is it for #Family? Keep guessin', folks, all is sure to be revealed yah, whenever!

Tucker's Mom said...

Life & Style has exclusively learned that Josh Duggar will be questioned under oath about the cheating scandal that rocked his family in 2015.

“We need to know if there are people out there who think that they have been in touch with our client because Josh was pretending to be him,” Michelle explains. The fact that he admitted to molesting five underage girls, four of whom were his siblings, in the early 2000s also affects the case.

“That makes my client’s forced association with Duggar all the more painful for him,” Michelle shares. “He certainly would rather not have been associated with a child molester. And prospective employers didn’t like it, either.”

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According to documents obtained by In Touch, Matthew argues that Josh’s use of his photo resulted in loss of work, harassment from the public, and prolonged pain and embarrassment.

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/josh-duggar-cheating-scandal-ashley-madison-130412

https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/3093d00e-2d0c-325b-8e31-fcf05e843381/ss_josh-duggar-will-be.html

Sherry Baby said...

With people like Milo, there are times when you have to put your foot down, be firm, tell them exactly hoe you feel. Being nice and courteous just won't work with the Milos of the world. What Kate did sounds rude, but gosh, Milo just doesn't get it. She's a busybody and perhaps Kate is reining her in, telling her she really doesn't appreciate the meddling and she's not Kate's designed spokesperson. It's about time.

Layla said...

Oh, don't let the sheeple get to you. These are people who expend energy defending a child abuser. What does that tell you about them?

I have to give Mama June a little credit. She rebranded herself (successfully) and moved on. I saw an article about her recently and she was in NYC, followed by a camera crew. Looks like she is still filming. I cannot understand how a mother could allow a man she knows is a child molester to be around her daughters. That is just a complete parenting failure. But you have to admit, she does know how to package and sell herself. But she is not a size 4! She claims to be 5'4" and around 165. That might make her a 14, but not a 4.

NJGal51 said...

Well TFW has now posted individual pictures wishing each puppy a happy birthday individually because, even though they're liter mates, they're still individual dogs with their own personalities. Wouldn't it have been nice if she'd treated the kids the same way. She hasn't gotten very many likes yet. Can we say over saturation? She'd better buy some more bots to like both new posts.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#26), man, she's really laying it on thick. What's next -- individual astrological profiles of each puppy? Perhaps getting their tea leaves read? Yes, wouldn't that special attention from TFW have been treasured by a boy who craved it so much?
And did his level best to earn it, to no avail?

What if Nannie Poo Poo had been away at the vet's today on her birthday? I bet TFW would've shown more emotion about that than she did about her 12-year-old son not being present at his birthday party. She's glad he's gone.

Sad but true said...

And yet another! LOL

kateplusmy8 Happy 1st Birthday, Nanuq! #PhotoShoot #PerfectlyProper #IfYouDispenseTreats #KingGermanShepherd #ShokasDaughter #MaksSister

Sad but true said...

Comment in the #Mak photo.

kimmy_courageandhope Your mak is cuter than my jack Russel terrier named angel. Why didn't you adopt two puppies from the animal shelter instead of breeding shoka? There are lots of dogs and cats that get put to sleep @ animal shelters each year because of over breeding and not enough homes for them. My angel was one of those pups out there from an shelter and yet I got her as a shelter as a puppy.

Why don't you answer her, K8? Would puppies of "lesser" lineage than Shoka not have been acceptable? To whom? Shoka? Your kids? YOU? TLC???

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#23), I have a feeling Pa Duggar will write a check to settle this thing out of court before he'd let Josh be questioned. He's got the future of the family's TV show in the balance, so it'd probably be worth the investment to pay
this dude off.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


According to documents obtained by In Touch, Matthew argues that Josh’s use of his photo resulted in loss of work, harassment from the public, and prolonged pain and embarrassment.


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This lawsuit doesn't sound like anything to blow off. For this kind of tort, you have to show how it harmed you. Seems to me he's outlining pretty clearly exactly how he was harmed. Anything can happen in court, but it looks solid to me. I'm not so sure they're going to be able to buy their way out of this one.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She's got a picture holding the two of them when they both fit in one of her hands together and their eyes don't even look open yet. What reputable breeder would let you hold a puppy that young?

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No reputable breeder.

Backyard breeder, no question about it.

Sad but true said...

kateplusmy8 Happy 1st Birthday, Nanuq! #PhotoShoot #PerfectlyProper #IfYouDispenseTreats #KingGermanShepherd #ShokasDaughter #MaksSistermiloandjack2016What more can we say... #Nanuq is a gorgeous girl! Love that style...has that left back leg out there! LOL. She knows how to rock a #PhotoOp! ❤ @kateplusmy8

Just like K8! Isn't that interesting. Sounds like the pups had their own photo shoot. I'm sure it'll be published by People any second now.

mandykerschner Post something about the kids for once!

mandykerschnerDogs dogs dogs dogs DOGS

sharbear492976 Enough of the dog!

nick_moy@mandykerschner Ever THINK that the kids don't want to. Be grateful with what is being shared.. or move on...No matter the age of the kids, their wishes should be RESPECTED.

REALLY, nick? How about when they DON'T wanna film for TV? Should those wishes be respected too?

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 27
NJGal51 (#26), man, she's really laying it on thick. What's next -- individual astrological profiles of each puppy? Perhaps getting their tea leaves read?

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Flimsy! Don't give her show ideas! lol

Crossover with Teresa, the medium.

She would do it in a heartbeat!

GollyGee said...

Roh, Roh!

Saw an ad for LPBG. Matt and Amy and a lady were talking in his office and Matt told Amy that he and the lady were dating. They then show a shot of the lady and then a shot of the front door being slammed shut (I think it was Amy) going out after hearing about Matt and this lady dating.

Matt said she was an employee that has been there for years in management. I think, IMO, maybe Amy was upset that it was someone that worked there and maybe they had been together during the marriage.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#33), hilarious that any fan would argue TFW is respecting her children's wishes. Cara said didn't even want a party. But not only did she get one, she got one that aired on TV.

And as I've said before, if the kids don't want TFW posting their pictures on Insta against their wishes -- which, for teenage girls, might certainly be the case -- isn't it unreasonable to think they all want to be FILMED for hours and hours at a time, for a program showed around the world?

GollyGee said...

Just like K8! Isn't that interesting. Sounds like the pups had their own photo shoot. I'm sure it'll be published by People any second now.

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I'm sure if the pups have their own People cover they will have been very pampered by the list of demands that will have to be met at the photo shoot.

Craft services for pets, water breaks, personal gofer for each pup, list of treats and surprises in their OWN dressing room. Personal doggie doo poo patrol.

Kate Coyner is just that obsessed with TFW to arrange this for her.

NJGal51 said...

There's a new picture up of frosted cookies with a "1" candle in the middle of them: kateplusmy8 Puppy Birthday Cake...human version! (winkey face) #Mak#Nanuq#Yum#FirstBirthday#Yesterday

One commet is XXXX all these pet pictures are getting old

nick_moy's over the top reply to XXX is REALLY???? How old are you...You sound like some CRABBY old bag lady..Your kid(s) will follow in yur footsteps and probably be worse than you if you don't set a better example of your attitude and behavior.
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All that because she/he is apparently tired of seeing pet pictures. TFW had better watch out for this one.

JoyinVirginia said...

Buh-bye Bill O'Reilly. The big advertisers pulled out, and Fox decided to cut their losses.
tfmjg still plugs along!
Who woulda thunk it?

Sad but true said...

Not done yet!

kateplusmy8 Puppy Birthday Cake... human version! 😉#Mak #Nanuq #Yum #FirstBirthday #Yesterday

These look like iced sugar cookies to me, I have no idea what "Puppy Birthday Cake... human version!" is supposed to mean vis-a-vis the photo.

And here's Nick being a weenie again.

cohen9223 all these pet pictures are getting old

nick_moy As usual you dedicate so much time to the one you love..

nick_moy@cohen9223 .....REALLY ???? How old are you...You sound like some CRABBY old bag lady.. Your kid (s) will follow in your footsteps and probably be worse than you if you don't set a better example of your attitude and behaviour.

Tucker's Mom said...

I assume if there was another photo shoot, it's for the People cover and the tups' 13th birthday.
All 7 kids and mom in white again? Happy, happy, happy!!!!
I can't imagine any magazine is doing a photo shoot just for dogs.

Formerly Duped said...

The cookies do look like 'human' cookies and also possibly store-bought. But TFW did make a cake for Shoka on one episode with ingredients safe for dogs. We make pupcakes for out dog- iced with cream cheese or peanut butter. No idea what you use for sprinkles for dogs though.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#41), but if those pictures are from a professional photo shoot, wouldn't TFW be restricted from posting them? Or is it just the usual "no never means no" on her part?

Sad but true said...

Good one, Punkinhead.

jamiepumpkin3 I knoooooow u did not make those cookies!! They look yummy!!

GollyGee said...

Tucker's, on the People PuppyPaloozza Gosselin Puppy Shoot, shoot, I was being snarky. lol

Remember when they put HER on a cover when someone or something happened that should of been on the cover? Can't remember exactly what.

Those hashtags are getting more childish by the tweet.

Greta Sophia said...

If her dogs just turned 1, wonder if Collin has even gotten to meet them? So sad. He's such a sweet boy.

Sad but true said...

Interesting convos happening on the #NookiePookie photo.

nick_moy@mandykerschner Ever THINK that the kids don't want to. Be grateful with what is being shared.. or move on...No matter the age of the kids, their wishes should be RESPECTED.

tdarienzo3@nick_moy Does that same logic apply if the kids don't want to be filmed anymore. You know as the kids hit their teen years this may become an issue.

nick_moy@tdarienzo3 yes could be..but when they become teens they become more mature and may want to pursue a career in television.. but who knows?

tdarienzo3@nick_moy You may be correct, but if some want to keep filming and some don't then all their wishes should be respected don't you agree. Also, thank you for a respectable response.

nick_moy@tdarienzo3 each individual should be respected and there is always a solution.. it doesn't mean the show will have the same format.. If you look back at the episodes.. most of the camera shots are of Kate. But the most important thing for any child when they choose a career is to be 100% happy with their chosen field.. There's nothing worse that spending 8, 10, 12 or 16 hours a day hating what you do or feeling you have no control of your career path.

sstevfam I started following Kateplus 8 because I loved watching your show and watching the adventures that you and the kids have. But, I've noticed that you post a lot of pics of your animal babies, but hardly any of the kids. Can we see more of the kids?

kateplusmy8 Yes.. but all pics I post the kids want to approve (a request which I honor) and they rarely approve pics of them but will continue to try lol!however, all three dogs love to pose for the camera and that's pretty much why I post more of my fur kids than my human kids 😂😂😂😂 @sstevfam

Nick points out "most of the camera shots are of Kate," LOL. True dat. And K8 wants to respect her kids' wishes re posting photos---how about the ones who don't want to film, K8? Are you respecting their wishes when it comes to filming?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#44), yeah, Jamie well knows that homebaked cookies are only for when you have visiting friends there to help (read: do everything).

Has Gladys responded yet? She loves to get into the conversation when Pumpkinhead posts.

Sad but true said...

Milo held off a long time in posting anything on the first b'day photo K8 posted. But she finally popped in to grovel.

miloandjack2016 So I was just ONE DAY OFF! You know I get about as excited as you do over these precious #Furbabies #MakAndNanuq ❤ #FiredUp just misfired a day early over their birth date! Sorry I spilled the beans pre-maturely! 😇 @kateplusmy8

NJGal51 said...

OK, the cookies are store bought not homemade AND the colors match the candle. They are two uniform with the size and icing and only an accomplished baker would be able to achieve that. Also, she must have bought more likes for everything because they've certainly jumped for all her recent posts. Photo shoot? I think that they probably did their own photo shoot because as FlimsyFlamsy said she'd probably be restricted from publishing them. She may have hired a photog to take pictures of #themostamazingdogsthateverlivedwhohavereplacedcolin

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 39
Buh-bye Bill O'Reilly. The big advertisers pulled out, and Fox decided to cut their losses.
tfmjg still plugs along!
Who woulda thunk it?
April 20, 2017 at 6:21 AM
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If that idiot in North Korea turns us "into ashes", I swear, Kate Gosselin and her IG account will still be around.

Tucker's Mom said...

Those hashtags are getting more childish by the tweet.
******
hashtag #diarrhea!!

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 43
Tucker's Mom (#41), but if those pictures are from a professional photo shoot, wouldn't TFW be restricted from posting them? Or is it just the usual "no never means no" on her part?
April 20, 2017 at 7:01 AM
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My bet is that People is doing another photo shoot and the dogs are part of it this year.
Because:
+2 puppies-1 child=0

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#51), yes, I'm afraid TFW, the Kardashians, and cockroaches will survive any nuclear blast. Which means TFW and Rob K will be responsible for repopulating the earth -- shudder...

CC said...

Those cookies are not dog cookies. They are prepackaged and sold in the bakery section of supermarkets. They look yummy, but they aren't all that good in my opinion.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Filming is way worse, kids. On instagram you just have a couple thousand fake followers. On the episodes, you're averaging a million and they're not fake. I wonder if they're not conceptualizing how many people watch them on tv. There's no likes or followers to track.

CC said...

Kate fans on her Instagram are so stupid. In that Easter pic does it look like Alexis wants her pic taken? And that's the one Kate chooses to post! How is that okay?

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, Alexis I think must have been told to look grumpy to add to the 'real drama'. It was a dumb choice for a Happy Easter photo.In the other photos taken that day Alexis is fine.


One recent-ish episode had the family at a studio getting a family portrait done because Kate wanted one so badly (thanks again, TLC)- some of the shots are used on the intro to K+8. Why not use one of those? That was the episode where Leah kicked up a fuss about the dress she had to wear and Kate said she wanted to reward aka bribe her so pleeease co-operate. Yeah, the kids LOVE getting pictures taken.

Somewhere In Time said...

Yes, Sherry (24), I agree, With someone like Milo, it's difficult to know exactly what to do with her. She's had her wrists slapped several times by Kate, and she either LOls it, trying to brush it off like "that's just the way I am," or she slinks away and sulks to lick her wounds, and then comes back interfering, not having learned anything. I suppose she's harmless, but you just never know. Sometimes in situations like that, with an obsessed fan, they snap and the result can be deadly, literally. I just don't trust Gladys, and neither should Kate. I think she could be a loose cannon if ignored too much.

ncgirl said...

"And K8 wants to respect her kids' wishes re posting photos---how about the ones who don't want to film, K8? Are you respecting their wishes when it comes to filming?"

Eh, the kids not wanting to be on social media should be OK with Kate since they're(she's) not getting paid. Now TV, money, and trips is a whole different thing.

Maybe she can get a show for the dogs: Bitch plus Three.

NJGal51 said...

kateplusmy8 Yes.. but all pics I post the kids want to approve (a request which I honor) and they rarely approve pics of them but will continue to try lol!however, all three dogs love to pose for the camera and that's pretty much why I post more of my fur kids than my human kids 😂😂😂😂 @sstevfam
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Dogs don't love to pose for the camera, dogs do what they are told ESPECIALLY if there is a treat offered. My bully is a well known treat whore and will sit, stay and put on silly costumes if I have a treat held out in front of him. BTW, today is my bully's first birthday (check my b'day icon)!

Turn out the lights said...

Yesterday I listened to jon's podcast. He said both the boys have cellphones and are on them constantly, especially Snapchat.
So who's' paying for the phones? He did say if they broke them he'd have to get them another one.
He also said the kids were involved in sports; he specifically mentioned lacrosse. So perhaps several of the kids are in sports.

Ingrid said...

I had a dog who was afraid of cameras. If I held one up to take pictures of him, he would hang his head and look down right awful.

High Sodium Content said...

The cookies are called Lofthouse Sugar Cookies. They are easy to make, then you know what are in them. http://www.centercutcook.com/lofthouse-soft-sugar-cookies-copycat-recipe/

GollyGee said...

From Pickles Duggars Facebook page.

The lawyer for the guy who is suing Josh will question Josh under oath on the stand. The fact that the lawyer is a woman named Michelle makes this case even more fun to watch. She'll ask Josh a question and Josh will demand her to make him a sandwich. Then Josh will be found in contempt of court for being a misogynist jerk.
I just wish this article said when the case will begin. I need to start buying popcorn in bulk.

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So glad that Josh will finally have his feet held to the fire and have to sit there and be asked questions from a lady attorney. I wonder if all of the Duggars will show up for to see how a court of law works for the kids homeschooling credit or the parents and a few select kiddults.

Jim Bob is very well off but he is not so well off to pay off Josh's catfishing trip.

Sad but true said...

OMG! Is K8 actually helping another person? What makes me think there's got to be something in it for her.

kateplusmy8 Hey guys- I don't typically ask for help, but.... if there is any way you can help a fellow #HOM family, they REALLY NEED our help! The Dyal family has 4 year old (precious!) quintuplets and mom, Stacy, is very ill... awaiting a liver transplant! My heart hurts for their family! Here's the link to their go fund me page https://www.gofundme.com/stacy-dyal-quintuplet-family so you can donate any amount. If you can't donate, please pray! All help is welcomed! #Thankyou! ❤❤❤❤❤

Hey K8! Why don't you suggest to Figure 8/TLC that this needy family get a reality show? That would REALLY help, right? But oh no, technical difficulties.

pc08 Hey Kate, ask Cara or Mady for help to post the link in your ig BIO links don't work on posts here.

kateplusmy8 Oh dear! That sounds really foreign lol, but thank you! I'll ask them to help me as soon as possible! @pc08 In the meantime, go to go fund me and search Stacy Dyal. 😉

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 LOL... Having same issue. Would be happy to help though. Someone got the link yet?

miloandjack2016 My heart easily connects here! Health is everything...and this family needs a energetic ready to go Mom! You @kateplusmy8. have been so blessed over the yrs to have good health...constant energy to care for your kids!!

miloandjack2016 You could post on twitter too. Link should work there... @kateplusmy8

I found the page. Unless K8 contributed anonymously (and why would she?), I don't see that she made a donation. Which comes as no surprise. And no, she did not bother to post the link on Twitter either, per Milo's suggestion.

Gee, all those people (and K8) who bought rubber chickens for Shoka, now that would probably have brought in a couple hundred in donations. "I don't typically ask for help"---good one.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Maybe she can get a show for the dogs: Bitch plus Three.

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The one is a female, so wouldn't it be Two Bitches Plus Two?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#61), aww, I hope your sweet bully had a nice birthday! But clearly you don't love him as much as TFW loves her dogs, because you didn't even bother to include any hashtags or anything! She is a role model for all babies -- human, fur, and
feather!

Somewhere in Time (#59), nice to see you!
And I notice Vanessa posted yesterday, whom I don't remember seeing here in a while. It makes me smile to see names I've missed.

RoxyHelen said...

Not sure if you heard about the most recent YT scandal, a family is being accused of mistreating their children, especially the youngest boy. Here's the twist: it was all on camera and they have supporters and people cheering them on. There are over 200 YT videos showing a distressed little boy getting pushed into furniture, having his nose bleeding, being kicked in the privates and being extremely emotionally distressed. It's presumably a "pranking" channel and now the parents are trying to claim it's all staged, as if any 7 year old boy could be that good an actor. On the last video published before they wiped the channel clean, the parents talk about leaving the boy at home while they all go to Disney because he smeared poop all over the place repeatedly(it's often a sign of child abuse). Yet people carried on watching.

I now sincerely doubt the show K+8 will stop because Collin isn't there. If we live in a world where people readily watch a child being tormented and approve of it, why do we expect them to care that a kid is suddenly not there? At least care enough to demand the show gets cancelled.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



kateplusmy8 Hey guys- I don't typically ask for help, but.... if there is any way you can help a fellow #HOM family, they REALLY NEED our help! The Dyal family has 4 year old (precious!) quintuplets and mom, Stacy, is very ill... awaiting a liver transplant! My heart hurts for their family! Here's the link to their go fund me page https://www.gofundme.com/stacy-dyal-quintuplet-family so you can donate any amount. If you can't donate, please pray! All help is welcomed! #Thankyou! ❤❤❤❤❤


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I'm guessing Kate is mostly going to be just "praying."

Formerly Duped said...

Kate won't help that family...she is putting it out there for kind-hearted fans to do the work and give their $$$. She could quietly make a sizeable donation to them, as many celebrities with class do to worthy causes and individuals, but no, she has to post it to remind people she too has HOM and is a caring individual- St. Jude's anyone?

NJGal51 said...

You're right Flimsy she's the bestest dog mom in the world because she does photo shoots, buys cookies and grafts for rubber chickens. But, this is my view right now (see icon) and I wouldn't trade it for the world (even though I can no longer feel my leg!).

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal- your pup is so cute! What a face!

Sad but true said...

So since K8 posted her appeal on behalf of the Dyals, a grand total of $320 has been donated. Of that, there's a $20 and a $200, both anonymous. My guess is that one of those is Milo. Maybe the $100 that is not anonymous came via K8's post, but hard to say as the name doesn't come up in any of the comments on her post. Point being, despite the comments posted to the IG photo, her fans don't seem to be putting their $$$ where their mouths are. I don't think she's got much of a career in marketing ahead of her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Point being, despite the comments posted to the IG photo, her fans don't seem to be putting their $$$ where their mouths are. I don't think she's got much of a career in marketing ahead of her.
*****
They're all talk. Anyone who supports using children for fame and money has no moral compass, so I wouldn't expect much activism from any of them.
All they want is for the G kids to keep working so they can park their asses on their barcaloungers and be mindlessly entertained.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I just don't trust Gladys, and neither should Kate. I think she could be a loose cannon if ignored too much.


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Could be a loose cannon? She *is* a loose cannon, whether she's ignored or gobbling up the bones Kate throws at her. She scares me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Could be a loose cannon? She *is* a loose cannon, whether she's ignored or gobbling up the bones Kate throws at her. She scares me.
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Yup, like hide-the-bunny scary.

Sherry Baby said...

They're all talk. Anyone who supports using children for fame and money has no moral compass, so I wouldn't expect much activism from any of them.

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This is by no means being disrespectful nor judgmental, but I would suspect that many of them just don't have the funds to donate. One of the reasons they are fans is because they admire her lifestyle. She has what most of they can only dream about, which includes the mansion, the cars, the POOL, the lesbian/preacher deck, and yes, even the leather sofa.

Susan1956 said...

#30 Flimsy Flamsy--I read somewhere that Ms. Matthew's client has refused all settlement offers from the Duggars. Admin,is there any way the judge would approve a request to close the courtroom during the trial? Wonder if his sisters will attend? I'm not that far from Arkansas. Hmmmm.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sherry Baby (#78), I think that's a good point. And I think TFW is well aware of that disparity between their lifestyles, and knows the fans get a thrill out of it when a big star like she is (*snort*) acts like she's "one of them," saying things like "#MomLife," and talking about mediocre things like broken appliances and school bus stop runs.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susan1956 (#79), wow, I didn't hear that they wouldn't accept a settlement offers from the Duggars! Get yer popcorn -- this could get interesting!

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

This is by no means being disrespectful nor judgmental, but I would suspect that many of them just don't have the funds to donate. One of the reasons they are fans is because they admire her lifestyle. She has what most of they can only dream about, which includes the mansion, the cars, the POOL, the lesbian/preacher deck, and yes, even the leather sofa.

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Yes, I agree. Not many of them, despite their affection and undying allegiance to her, forked over money to purchase the cookbook. It failed.

Is she still hawking that tea? Whatever happened to the jewelry/makeup surprise of the month box? How many of them forked over money for that dang ab thing?

Formerly Duped said...

Kate couldn't even get people to use coupons or her advice when she worked writing those blogs.She has tried selling abdominizers, protein bars, the tea cleanse boys' swimwear I think, the prepackaged meals as well as her books...oh and of course, her kids

Sad but true said...

kateplusmy8 Evening play routine (to tire out the endless energy puppy!) ... the kids talk to them like they're their actual little siblings 😂.. then again I talk to them like they're my human children too! #Alexis #Nanuq

I guess this is how she gets the kids worked into the IG thing. It's a video instead of a photo. Six of one . . . ? As long as K8ie gets what K8ie wants, it's all good.

GollyGee said...

Wow, Susan1956, are you considering going?

It was weird to read and Michelle is going to question Josh in court because of his mother. I think it would be to hard on the sisters that go because that just might give them bad flashbacks and make themselves realize their parents blew off how bad it really was.

Sickening that Pa Duggar trying to cover Josh's behind again trying to buy silence.

fpxy said...

TLC has a Honey Boo Boo marathon today. I wonder what TLC is up to..no mention of K8 and her group coming on.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

At the end of the day Kate is totally delusional about her demographic. I'm guessing she sits around imagining her fans to be equal followers of things like CNBC, Barefoot Contessa, and the Home and Garden channel while they sip grapefruit infused water at their summer home on Long Island. And that they have $500 bucks laying around to give to every last person who shows up on GoFundMe. She's just totally clueless.

GollyGee said...

Sorry, I meant to say that Michelle questioning Josh, I didn't realize it was the clients female attorney named Michelle.

Oh, by the way, the first round of popcorn is on me!

GollyGee said...

I can't believe she said she hardly asks for help! Gaslighting witch!

Rubber chickens, safety mode, I could go on and on!

I think Milo did the 20 dollar donation and someone else donated the 200. There is no way she would donate one red cent out of her Ft. Knox secured wallet to help anybody but herself.



NJGal51 said...

Over 12K views in two hours, someone really is buying views! Isn't Alexis the one that doesn't visit Jon? I wonder if the other 4 are with him.

NJGal51 said...

What is that thing she's got the dog wearing?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#84), once again TFW is tone deaf. She merrily reports that her kids talk to the dogs like they are their siblings. But they have an actual sibling who isn't around for them to talk to.

The longer this goes on, the creepier it feels to me. I sure am curious about how the 13th birthday will go down.

NJGal51 said...

They must not be filming right now because TFW is posting a lot. She needs her ego fed.

GollyGee said...

NJGal51 said... 93
They must not be filming right now because TFW is posting a lot. She needs her ego fed.

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Yes, good the kids get a break.

Just waiting for the other shoe to drop for the kids 13th bestest birthday ever, even more bester than the 12th bestest birthday ever that was filmed!

How dare her.

SaraMRN2010 said...

Formerly Duped said... 83
Kate couldn't even get people to use coupons or her advice when she worked writing those blogs.She has tried selling abdominizers, protein bars, the tea cleanse boys' swimwear I think, the prepackaged meals as well as her books...oh and of course, her kids
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She is certainly a pro at selling her kids. She had perfected her "we need a handout because we have 8 kids to raise because even though we did this, society invented fertility drugs and it really is society's place to help us" speech. She is also a master for letting other people do her work and her take credit for it. For example, Beth wrote her book, Carla cleaned her house behind the scenes, Ashley/Carla babysat, and Katherine provided meals for her. However, it was TLC that provided all of this to market Kate as the "can do mother of 8" and people bought into it. Kate will never be able to market and sale anything except her children.
And finally, this HOM family she is asking for donations for, live about 60 miles from me. They are the total opposite of Kate. They are very grateful for everything, never went to churches begging for handouts. There are not many articles on them but if you are lead to give something, just google Stacy Dyal, Brooker, Fl.

CC said...

Alexis is the only one in the video because the others were with Jon.

Someone posted a comment on her Instagram that they saw the others at Longwood Gardens (in PA).

Formerly Duped said...

Wow, Alexis must feel very much alone with Collin gone on the weekends when the other four go to Jon's. The twins have no time for her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Doing some Earth Day spring cleaning, and just found this document that came with a free Scotch masking tape sample I'd gotten from one of my coupon websites (I'm a real couponer -- not the kind TFW plays on TV):

"Did you know that when you receive free product, the law considers you to have a connection with the company providing the product that could influence any statements or endorsements you may make about this product to a potential customer? Accordingly, if you mention this product in any forum in which consumer purchasing decisions could be influenced by what you say, you are required to disclose that you received the product for free from 3M. It's a matter of transparency and credibility, and it's a legal requirement. There are many ways to make the required disclosure. It can be as simple as noting somewhere in your communication:

I received the product free from 3M
or
3M gave me a free sample of this product to evaluate
or
I volunteer to evaluate products for 3M, and the company recently sent me a free sample.

Remember, the objective is transparency, so consumers can decide how to evaluate your comments. So when in doubt, err on the side of disclosure."

Serious language. I wonder if ol' Kontract Honorer Kate knows all that legal-ish stuff.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CC (#96), I imagine it's lovely for the kids
to be out doing something fun without a camera crew trailing them. We have a pretty good idea that TFW doesn't do a lot with them when it's not on TLC's dime.

TFW will NEVER understand that "mediocre" can feel absolutely wonderful.
Just to not be parentified for a few hours must be a little bit of heaven for those kids.

Formerly Duped said...

It is nice Jon takes at least four of the kids out on jaunts with no panic ensuing- with no cameras.Too bad neither Collin nor Alexis could enjoy these special outings and that the twins have removed themselves- to do what/ Mady said she sits in her bed all day. At least Cara plays lacrosse. The report of others participating in sports is great, if true.

NJGal51 said...

Thanks CC. The Longwood Gardens comment was still there when I went in and looked. TFW's swiffer must not be working.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#97), no wonder A is talking to the dogs. That may be the only interaction she has with most of her siblings away.

Tucker's Mom said...


TFW will NEVER understand that "mediocre" can feel absolutely wonderful.
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I'd rather be mediocre than famous, any day. I bet Jon and the kids can enjoy normalcy, without "panic" or even being recognized since they don't have a camera crew and posse in tow, and dress without the intention of drawing attention to themselves.

I was just saying to DH that I wanted to get to Philly for a baseball game and a visit to Longwood Gardens.
I remember going there as a kid (and Dutch Wonderland etc), and my mother absolutely LOVED all the flowers and beauty.

NJGal51 said...

One question...why does she think it's so special and funny that they talk to the dogs like they're humans? Don't we all do that? It's very telling that she used the word "siblings" since she removed their real sibling from the home. She's teaching them that anything and any one is replaceable.

Tucker's Mom said...

Nanuq is wearing a coat for what? It hasn't been coat weather for people, let alone dogs, in quite awhile.
I'm glad Alexis has the dogs to play with when she stays behind at the compound.
It is beyond odd and more than a bit concerning that she still refuses to visit her father.
That does not bode well at all.
That said, I'm sure it brings Kate great joy that there are some kids who refuse to spend time with Jon.
F-ed up.

Tucker's Mom said...

I received the product free from 3M
or
3M gave me a free sample of this product to evaluate
or
I volunteer to evaluate products for 3M, and the company recently sent me a free sample.

Remember, the objective is transparency, so consumers can decide how to evaluate your comments. So when in doubt, err on the side of disclosure."

Serious language. I wonder if ol' Kontract Honorer Kate knows all that legal-ish stuff.
******
Yes, she does. Kate was told by several people (on her Twitter? Blog?) that she must disclose the quid pro quo arrangement when she gets stuff for free and hawks it on her social media, or gets kick backs.
Kate complied with disclosure for awhile, but has not done so with the "box o'crap" and the turkey-trots teabags.

Tucker's Mom said...

And finally, this HOM family she is asking for donations for, live about 60 miles from me. They are the total opposite of Kate. They are very grateful for everything, never went to churches begging for handouts. There are not many articles on them but if you are lead to give something, just google Stacy Dyal, Brooker, Fl.
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You don't say? People with HOMs can live a normal, mediocre life without causing panic and mayhem wherever they go?

Sad but true said...

Some new comments on the dogs' b'day cookies pic:

barbarah46 nick_moy, I'm kind of surprised at how you feel the need to defend Kate in such a nasty way. She's a big girl and can defend herself. It is still a free country and people can comment and post as they please. That's the price we pay for being part of social media!

nick_moy @barbarah46 Kate is in the public eye and make a living by the way she conduct herself. So she CANNOT go out say what's really on her mind. That's only make sense.. like any business public perception is a big part of the success of your business.. you cannot just tell people to go to hell and expect them to accept you. It not just Kate but her children who are suffering the consequences of these ignorant and bullying comments. I did a quick calculation of the 140 or so episodes at approximately 40 minutes per episode it worked out to approx. 5 days in hours... and that 5 days are spread out over 10 years... And that enough for people know Kate more than Kate herself...LOL... Sometimes I think some people think that they are going through the drive-in window at McDonald's... I want more pics of the kids.. You are showing too much of the kids.. etc..etc.. I want... I want...i want

nick_moy @barbarah46 Also.. what I post is exactly what you said..I comment on the stupidity of the people.. and that's the price for being an idiot..

barbarah46 @nick_moy Wow, touched a nerve there huh?


nick_moy @barbarah46 ha ha ha.. hardly.. I enjoy telling people the other side of the story...it may be nasty sometimes but my investigation to these haters are they only follow Kate and always try to provoke some sort of response.. I call that stalking... you might condone that..but I don't..and I don't do this just for Kate.. but anybody I see of feel they are being bullied.. My son volunteers as a big brother and he sees a lot of these bullying and how it impact these kids.. Now how would it feel if your kids or grandkids are being bullied?

barbarah46 This is not about my grandchildren, of course I do not want them bullied. But you are the only one who defends Kate so stringently. She can, whether you agree or not, defend herself. You seem to think she needs you. What you see as bullying is not what some others see.

Nick really is a world-class moron, isn't he? Over 10 years there's only 5 days' worth of Gosselins on film? WTH is he smoking? He doesn't seem to understand that what's been aired is probably less than 5% of what was actually filmed. Not to mention the endless magazine stories, promotions, interviews, etc. He's an idiot.

Confused said...

I think Alexis might enjoy the time along without having to compete with the others, no yelling, no being ostracized, having the dogs and birds to herself, etc. I know I would if I lived in that chaos.

JM said...

The Longwood Gardens visit was a school field trip during the day.

Tucker's Mom said...

JM said... 110
The Longwood Gardens visit was a school field trip during the day.
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Oh, good. God knows Kate would never take them there.
Kate, or should I say, her "road manager", Steve, should keep nick on his radar.
There's a serious sense of investment in Kate that's not healthy.

NJGal51 said...

Hmmmmm, almost 25K views on the video but less then 3,500 likes and only 37 comments. You'd think that some of those thousands of viewers Seoul comment or at the very least "like" her post. Oh yeah, bots can't do that they only do what they're programmed to do when you buy them.

NJGal51 said...

Kate, or should I say, her "road manager", Steve, should keep nick on his radar.
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Agree Tucker's Mom, there's something seriously wrong with that one.

GollyGee said...

Formerly Duped said... 97
Wow, Alexis must feel very much alone with Collin gone on the weekends when the other four go to Jon's. The twins have no time for her.

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Sad, but Alexis is the new Collin.

I agree that she might prefer not going to Jon's because she can play with the dogs and use all the things they use without someone screeching and fighting to use what you are using.

But, we all know TFW. She may be bribing or playing the I'm all alone card on the poor girl.

CC said...

Oh school trip. That's nice. I wonder if Alexis was allowed to go.

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker, is Alexis refusing to see Jon or not allowed to, I wonder?

foxy said...

I think Alexis is the next Collin and if she doesn't toe the line she will be gone from the konpound as well.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I was just saying to DH that I wanted to get to Philly for a baseball game and a visit to Longwood Gardens.

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With a stop at Eastern State Penitentiary, followed by dinner at Chima Brazilian. Sounds like a plan!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Kate, or should I say, her "road manager", Steve, should keep nick on his radar.


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Don't you mean "rode" manager? ;-)

I think think this Nick is the bitter black-hearted busybody sheep. I'd bet the farm on it.

NJGal51 said...

"Seoul" doesn't even make sense for an auto correct! That should be "would".

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#108), Nick's Sermon on the Mount post inadvertently points out how TFW is responsible for hurting her kids. He/she says TFW makes a living being in the public eye, and that's why she's a target for bullies. But her KIDS didn't sign up for this, yet Nick admits they are bullied, too. So, Nick, who's to blame for that? Their MOTHER. SHE has made them vulnerable to the pitfalls of fame. TFW is a big girl and can protect and defend herself. But who is protecting and defending those kids?

SaraMRN2010 said...

Off topic but Erin Moran, Joanie on Happy Days passed away today.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/22/happy-days-star-erin-moran-dead/

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Foxy (#117), surely having a sibling disappear would have a sobering effect on the remaining kids. If it could happen to C, it could happen to them. Their brother gone for a whole year? What a terrifying thought for any child -- that they could be next.

I think the other 2 boys are out of the line of fire down in their man cave. And the twins wield a lot of power in the house, because they could refuse filming and everything would fall apart. And TFW may still have a soft spot for H -- the tup she admittedly bonded with first. But what does poor A have going for her?

GollyGee said...

I just thought of a long time poster on here that posts once in a blue moon and that is N.E. Psychologist.

I wonder if NEP knows about Collin and what is going on. I would love to hear their take on Collin picking out and giving his mother the gift that he so lovingly excited to give him and her cruel response to Collin.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Did TFW get any press with her lovey-dovey puppy birthday Insta frenzy? I didn't see anything.

Localyocul said...

An interesting, cryptic post by Paul Peterson about Erin Moran

https://www.facebook.com/minorcon/posts/1374934755903472

NJGal51 said...

I don't think that she got any press at all over pupapalooza. I don't think that she gets that her pups aren't any more special than anyone else's pups. In fact, if you were to put a picture of her dog next to mine I could almost guarantee that mine would get more real "likes" because English Bulldog puppies are just that cute. It's funny how her video has over 26K views now but the number of likes and comments hasn't changed much at all.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just caught a rerun of "Trisha's Southern Kitchen" and noticed her monogram on a pot lid. Sure enough, there's a Trisha Yearwood line of cookware! I enjoy her show very much, and find her warm and relatable, but she's not a gourmet cook (something she willingly admits). Yet she's managed to parlay her cooking show experience into greater professional success. The show also just got nominated for a Daytime Emmy Award.

And then there's marketing wizard TFW, whose 3-year-old cookbook is now available for pre-order...

Tucker's Mom said...

Don't you mean "rode" manager? ;-)
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Dang! I shoulda had that one!

RIP Erin Moran. Another child actor meets a tragic end.

Tucker's Mom said...

Flimsy- Trisha's show is great. She's warm and relates really well to the camera.
Trisha combines approachable dishes, friends, family, good wholesome values and singing.
IOW, nothing that Kate can offer.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 127
I don't think that she got any press at all over pupapalooza. I don't think that she gets that her pups aren't any more special than anyone else's pups. In fact, if you were to put a picture of her dog next to mine I could almost guarantee that mine would get more real "likes" because English Bulldog puppies are just that cute.
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OMG, English Bulldogs are too cute for words.
Kate's dogs are good looking and seem well behaved, but their not Air Bud, Beethoven or Winn Dixie.
I'd rather stare at my bichon's face all day ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

Localyocul said... 126
An interesting, cryptic post by Paul Peterson about Erin Moran

https://www.facebook.com/minorcon/posts/1374934755903472
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I think there's a narrative out there that fellow actors and others turned their backs on Erin.
Mental illness and addiction is very tough. Sometimes people just can't be helped.
I feel so horribly for Erin to have struggled so much in life.

Blowing In The Wind said...


I wonder if NEP knows about Collin and what is going on. I would love to hear their take on Collin picking out and giving his mother the gift that he so lovingly excited to give him and her cruel response to Collin.

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If I recall, she doesn't usually comment on individual cases because she isn't their therapist, and really doesn't get involved in personal issues like this, as it should be.

I miss her postings, though!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Sad but true (#108), Nick's Sermon on the Mount post inadvertently points out how TFW is responsible for hurting her kids. He/she says TFW makes a living being in the public eye, and that's why she's a target for bullies. But her KIDS didn't sign up for this, yet Nick admits they are bullied, too. So, Nick, who's to blame for that? Their MOTHER. SHE has made them vulnerable to the pitfalls of fame. TFW is a big girl and can protect and defend herself. But who is protecting and defending those kids?

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Absolutely. Nick is too stupid to see this. There is no critical thinking ability, and the long-winded ramblings are made without thinking it through. Dumb.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The comments on her posts are right, it's too much dogs. I love dogs but unless you know what you're doing (doug the pug for example) filling her account with dogs makes it boring. I believe her that the kids don't want to be in posts but what about HER?. Post more photos of herself and the things she is doing. If she browses any popular celeb account she will see that it's made up largely with photos of them and the interesting things they do. I would suggest a good starting point for her is to look at Melissa Gilbert's instagram. It's very strong. A strong mix of dogs, kids, food, selfies, hubby, travel, good books.

By the way her over 100k followers are a staggering number and clearly bought. Other celebs about as popular as her only have more in the 20-30k range.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 135
The comments on her posts are right, it's too much dogs. I love dogs but unless you know what you're doing (doug the pug for example) filling her account with dogs makes it boring
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Kate makes everything boring. She's not a storyteller and can't paint a picture to save her life. Everything is vanilla. No creativity, no depth, no humor.
Compare to Ree Drummond who takes breathtaking photos and can spin a yarn.
Kate does not know how to create an experience for readers and viewers.

Tucker's Mom said...

I would suggest a good starting point for her is to look at Melissa Gilbert's instagram. It's very strong. A strong mix of dogs, kids, food, selfies, hubby, travel, good books.

By the way her over 100k followers are a staggering number and clearly bought. Other celebs about as popular as her only have more in the 20-30k range.
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With Kate, there's no there, there.
These social media projects she dabbles in before she gets bored and moves on show how she really is without TLC creating her image and making he seem more than 1-dimensional.
She's really boring and not watchable.
Using her dogs to create some interest has been over used and is now turning people away.
How many times can you comment on her dogs?

FYI said...

On Friday, someone posted this on FB:

"April 21 at 7:02pm ·
We met Kate Gosselin today (Kate plus 8)- picture coming !"

When the poster asked where she met Kate, she replied:

"Homeschool Convention - she was there in different hall doing conference on overcoming adversity . In person , she's very down to earth"

When asked about the picture which has yet to be posted, she replied:

"They charged $10 for them to take the picture so they said we would have it in 5 to 7 days via email.i'll post as soon as I get it"

The Midwest Homeschool Convention was held at the Duke Energy Center in Cincinnatti, Ohio from Apr.20 to Apr. 22, and according to her other posts this is the convention the poster is talking about.

I looked at the convention website to see if perhaps Kate was a speaker there, but she wasn't listed.

So that begs the question of why would Kate go to a homeschool convention in Cincinnati?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#135), yesterday Valerie Bertinelli's guest on her cooking show was food blogger Jo Stougaard, who was advising her on how to expand her social media reach. Love it or hate it, managing social media is a huge part of being famous these days, and it requires work, time, advice, and help. And I'm no expert, but I'm guessing sending your fans out on a wild goose chase for dog rubber chickens is not what the cool celebs are doing these days.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Speaking of Valerie Bertinelli, today is her 57th birthday. She's been famous since she started on "One Day At A Time" in 1975 -- the year TFW was born. Luckily, she seems to have emerged from childhood stardom without too many scars.

Tucker's Mom said...

So that begs the question of why would Kate go to a homeschool convention in Cincinnati?

******
And who the hell would want Kate Gosselin featured when she obviously don't do any of the schooling, and sent her home schooled son away a YEAR ago!

Tucker's Mom said...

"Homeschool Convention - she was there in different hall doing conference on overcoming adversity . In person , she's very down to earth"
^^^
This makes no sense. Kate Gosselin sent her homeschooled son away a year ago and ha done nothing but pour out love over her dogs and happiness over all the filming and trips she does.
This woman won't even tell Collin's father where he is!
I get that people were fooled years ago and clamored to hear her speak, but now?
Who believes this very wealthy woman does it all alone?
Further, who would think she's a role model for motherhood?
She's made her kids work their entire lives and has amassed fame and fortune doing so.
Just on her failure to co-parent alone and her hatred for her ex is enough to make this a joke, right?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#142), fascinating, ain't it?
TFW is only an authority on one topic: grifting. Oh, and being a horrible mother.

I have so many questions about this thing. How much was she paid? How did she get the gig? I'm sure Steve went with her, to protect her from the threatening throngs of homeschool moms. Who watched her 7 kids while she was away? Was she away when she posted about A talking to the dog?

Tucker's Mom said...

Why would the homeschool conference make no mention of Kate on their website and schedule?
Something is hinky.
I can see Kate being a conference attendee, but definitely not a speaker.

Tucker's Mom said...

Also, having to pay $10 for a celeb pic at a conference on homeschooling seems pretty distasteful.
Seriously? Kate sends her son away and rewarded for him? Gets gigs?

CC said...

"Homeschool Convention - she was there in different hall doing conference on overcoming adversity..."

Seems the woman was there for a homeschool conference and Kate was at the same place for a different conference on "overcoming adversity." Hahaha. She's pathetic. What adversity has she had to overcome??

jamesvader1194 said...

Kate is a twit Im confused,on that same day,Kate wanted people to help the Dyal family(on their Gofundme page it saids they live in Florida)but she was in Cincinnati?Why would Kate tell her fans to help a random family she has no connection with while going to Cincinnati doing a speaking for homeschooling?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

See this is what I mean. Why on earth doesn't she share a few photos from her Cincinnati trip to instagram? It would be infinitely more interesting then the dumb dogs.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I bet she heard about the family of multiples with medical issues at the conference. That explains that. She's beyond strange the way she keeps trips like this so top secret. There's no rational reason for it.

Confused said...

From the FB comment KIAT posted above-

"They charged $10 for them to take the picture so they said we would have it in 5 to 7 days via email.i'll post as soon as I get it"

I think the "they" and "them" mentioned in the comment was the people running the convention. They were in charge of taking pictures of attendees with the speakers, charging a fee and emailing the pics.

I highly doubt Kate would attend a public conference on adversity. She'd never admit to any negativity in HER perfect family.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 148
See this is what I mean. Why on earth doesn't she share a few photos from her Cincinnati trip to instagram? It would be infinitely more interesting then the dumb dogs.
April 23, 2017 at 2:11 PM
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That's what Amy of LPBW does all the time. She's a very popular speaker and travels a lot. She shares that, promotes it, cooks, takes care of the farm.
Her IG is interesting.
As to Kate no promoting her speaking gigs-well, that would look like she wouldn't be piecing and patching without the show!

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm just stunned that anyone would pay Kate Gosselin to speak on anything, most of all "overcoming adversity".
That woman has been the recipient of more help, money and material things than anyone I know and she's done pitifully little in return.
smh

Tucker's Mom said...

I really think Kate doesn't want her viewing base to know she's got other things going on. Kate wants them to believe that she's holed up in her kitchen all day long, and only gets out to go to the grocery store.
She's a hustler.

FYI said...

Why would Kate tell her fans to help a random family she has no connection with while going to Cincinnati doing a speaking for homeschooling?
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As I said before, Kate was not listed as a speaker. I think she was just there as an attendee.

Here is the list of speakers and subjects for the convention. Kate is not listed as a speaker.

https://www.greathomeschoolconventions.com/locations/cincinnati-oh/schedule/

Perhaps she went with one of her sisters or Jamie.

NJGal51 said...

So the conference was the 20th through the 22nd. If she went the day before to get settled in to her 5 star hotel and prepare for the conference that means that she would not have been home for the puppies first birthday. Maybe that's why we didn't see her famous dog cake or a special puppy meal. How do you overcome adversity? Send your child away and replace him with puppies. Why am I not surprised by this?!

NJGal51 said...

She's beyond strange the way she keeps trips like this so top secret. There's no rational reason for it.
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Maybe TLC was there with her filming an episode.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Perhaps she went with one of her sisters or Jamie.

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Maybe. Conferences aren't cheap. I can't picture her forking over the money for this. Plus, she's just not the type that wants to noodle over important societal issues at conferences unless it's somehow all about her.

I wonder if they filmed. That would explain it.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hmm....if TLC was filming at the homeschooling conference, that means they're making Collin a storyline.
That would be pretty despicable.

Tucker's Mom said...


As I said before, Kate was not listed as a speaker. I think she was just there as an attendee.
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I'm trying to figure out the $10 for taking a photo with Kate.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I really think Kate doesn't want her viewing base to know she's got other things going on. Kate wants them to believe that she's holed up in her kitchen all day long, and only gets out to go to the grocery store.
She's a hustler.

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She clearly does hide the more active side of her life. Her instagram lately makes her look like a shut-in, or homebound due to disability. I'm still not quite sure I understand the motives for her discretion here. Does she think if her fans know that she does sometimes get to do fun things outside the house, she'll be less of a martyr single mom? Is she worried she'll be criticized for NOT doing it all for her kids and in fact she does leave them and there are nannies there whose help she denies? I don't get it.

On the contrary, I think she should DO something with herself. Work, or attend conferences, or SOMETHING with her time. Staying at home all day posting photos of dogs is pathetic.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I'm trying to figure out the $10 for taking a photo with Kate.

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I'm trying to figure out how you with a straight face charge people 10 bucks for a stupid photo.

Caitlyn Jenner was just on 20-20 again and they showed her out and about in Malibu. Several people approached her asking for a selfie with her. She graciously obliged every time, no charge.

It's just...so....TACKY to charge.

The fan said she was told she would receive the photo in the mail. That sounds a little more professional, like they had a photographer and a set-up and a cash register. I hope the fan provides more details.

What's funny is Kate has barely ever even mentioned the homeschooling she has done for a couple of the kids, I nearly forgot she said she did that. She certainly has never wanted to present herself as the face of homeschooling that I recall. Maybe this is yet another new angle for her.

I wonder if they take credit for the photos, I'm plum out of cash.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Why would the homeschool conference make no mention of Kate on their website and schedule?
Something is hinky.


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That's very odd. Unless she was a last minute replacement? I do know in attending several legal conferences, in fact I'm attending one next week on the East Coast, that they usually publish their materials and web site way ahead of time. If you need to make any changes last minute usually you can't. There are often changes and replacements but the might not be in writing.

The 10 dollar photo thing sounds like a meet and greet set up. But, if it wasn't an "official" set up, she's got to be kidding that she's just informally charging people who approach her. Say it ain't so.

It's bad enough to charge people at all, quite another to just spring that on them when people approach you in a public setting.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


This makes no sense. Kate Gosselin sent her homeschooled son away a year ago and ha done nothing but pour out love over her dogs and happiness over all the filming and trips she does.
This woman won't even tell Collin's father where he is!


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The history of Collin appears to be, per Kate, and correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Lancaster
2. expelled from Lancaster--with possibly some home schooling during that time
3. back at Lancaster I believe, at least for a short time, and then at some point public school
4. home schooling again, I believe
5. In patient treatment

So for all intents and purposes, home schooling with a big honking failure for her son. She's awfully rich to talk the talk about THAT.

Sad but true said...

The sighting of K8 at this conference, if she was there for the homeschooling event, is odd. She doesn't homeschool and never did. Even though Collin was purportedly being homeschooled for a year, I don't believe she was in any way involved in it.

Looking at the conference workshops and speakers, this is really a Duggar-type event, with a major emphasis on fundamentalist-type schooling. Far from what K8 chose for her kids. And last I heard, all the heavy-duty Christian emphasis is pretty far in her past. One has to wonder if she has designs to be "born again" next season on K+8. That's clearly the mainstay of the Duggar popularity. Is she going to give it another go?

Now let's see if she turns up at the Kentucky Derby. :)

Tucker's Mom said...

What's funny is Kate has barely ever even mentioned the homeschooling she has done for a couple of the kids, I nearly forgot she said she did that.
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Do you think she actually did the schooling? I think she's hands off when it comes to teaching and homework.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


What's funny is Kate has barely ever even mentioned the homeschooling she has done for a couple of the kids, I nearly forgot she said she did that.
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Do you think she actually did the schooling? I think she's hands off when it comes to teaching and homework.


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No, if I'm not mistaken I think even Kate referenced that she did not actually do the homeschooling herself. I always thought that at least some of it was done by Carla.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 163

Was Collin ever enrolled in a public school? If so, I missed that completely.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 163

Was Collin ever enrolled in a public school? If so, I missed that completely.

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That was my understanding. For awhile Kate was saying he went to a different school than those kids, and I vividly recall her talking about her morning routine where she dropped off the kids at the bus stop then went home to take Collin to school. Maybe she meant homeschool, I suppose, but I got the impression he was at public school. Which would make sense, since you can get much more special ed services there. And, I would bet money on him being enrolled in a public school so that she can finagle them paying for his in-patient. If you play your cards right, school districts can fork over tens of thousands of dollars to pay for treatment like this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


She's beyond strange the way she keeps trips like this so top secret. There's no rational reason for it.
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Maybe TLC was there with her filming an episode.


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That's not a rational reason. Look at Little People's instagrams. They post pics all the time from things that later turn into episodes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I highly doubt Kate would attend a public conference on adversity. She'd never admit to any negativity in HER perfect family.

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Jon caused her adversity, but she overcame it by alienating some of the children from him and getting a judge to sign off on continued filming over his objection.

What an inspiration.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CC (#146), I think you're right -- that TFW was doing a different kind of seminar at the same location. But through whom? And, again, if she was there to speak, why not promote it? Post about the date and location, and tell her fans she can't wait to participate? Post pictures afterwards, with a link to where people can get more info about the organization?

Yes, I suppose she could've just been an attendee, but she has no emotional curiosity.
No way girlfriend would sit amongst the mediocre and, perish the thought, listen to other people talk. She would only do something like that if there was something in it for her -- like a hotel with a spa, and free childcare at home in PA while she got to spend the weekend away from her 7 little albatrosses. Oh, and a paycheck from TLC.

Anonymous said...

Just a thought about the adversity seminar. Possibly that's where she heard about Stacy Dyal, the woman who is awaiting a liver transplant - now that is adversity. She did ask for prayers for her and donations to the Go Fund Me account for the family.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

It boggle the mind that any consortium or business would hire Kate Gosselin for speaking and meet and greets.
Homeschool parents seem the LEAST likely group of individuals to be bamboozled by Kate's fakery.
Anyone who homeschools could sniff out her b.s..

Me said...

I'm trying to figure out the $10 for taking a photo with Kate.

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When my friend dragged me to see them speak back in 08 they charged $10 for photos too

jamesvader1194 said...

@Admin Its weird because she admitted that they were filming(unless she's lying)so if this thing is for filming then why is she still trying to hide the fact that they're filming?Another thing regardless as to whether she is or isnt,wouldn't she want to show everyone,the suppose wonderful thing she's doing for other people?By showing it,wouldn't it make haters doubt the fact that she's selfish?Im not sure,im kinda taking this poster comment with a grain of salt until he/she posting the picture she claims.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jamesvader1194 (#175), wouldn't it be hilarious if that woman made a mistake, and it was actually Mama June she saw? People keep pointing out the resemblance!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wish someone would just ask TFW point blank about what she was doing in Ohio.
Maybe Gladys can ask, if she's read about it here at the cesspool of hate.

Over In TFW's County said...

The history of Collin appears to be, per Kate, and correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Lancaster

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He first went to a church-affiliated pre-school, not LCDS.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

He first went to a church-affiliated pre-school, not LCDS.

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Well yes, for a couple years as I recall. I wasn't going THAT far back.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Awww, remember when TFW picked the kids up from Sunday school and chucked
all their artwork -- with the cameras rolling? Another day, as she would say, "filled with memories."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The random tweet about the liver transplant mom actually makes perfect sense now. Someone approached her with the story and link at the conference and urged her to help. Stuck with said do gooder in person Kate couldn't pasaive aggressively ignore them or otherwise blow them off. She was stuck, she had to "help". Next time she saw her at the Double Tree pool she can say, tweeted it out, hoping for the best! While quietly so annoyed she got roped into this with no way out.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 181
The random tweet about the liver transplant mom actually makes perfect sense now.
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Kate couldn't make an excuse or ignore some anonymous person on her feed.
I'm betting it chapped her to use her social media to help someone else, and the whole "Hey guys- I don't typically ask for help, but.... " reads like her typical passive-aggressive self.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate couldn't make an excuse or ignore some anonymous person on her feed.

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Bingo. She would have pretended she didn't see it if someone contacted her on social media about it. This was someone in person, and she had to post about this or keep running into them at every breakout session and coffee break until she finally posted it to shut her up.

Tucker's Mom said...

kateplusmy8Since you've all been asking about Shoka... here he is! LOVE this guy to bits! #Shoka #Mak #Nanuq #WeThreeKingGermanShepherds #MoreDogPosts #SorryNotSorry😂#PhotoCreditGoesToMady
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OMG, people are begging you NOT to post more dogs!
Again, to our point, Kate telegraphs that her life is confined to the compound, meanwhile, she's been gone for days.

Is she TRYING to have the worst, most boring celeb social media ever? Because, if she is, she's succeeding!

NJGal51 said...

Monday morning Shoka picture...Since you've all been asking about Shoka...here he is! LOVE this guy to bits! @Shoka#Mak#Nanuq@WeThreeKingGermanSherpherds#MoreDogPosts#SorryNotSorry#PhotoCreditGoesToMady

There are 994 likes and 13 comments. It's 0925 EST so let's see how long it takes for those numbers to jump to the thousands. She's not relevant unless at least 3K people "like" her post. Why in God's name is Shoka wearing a coat?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

If TFW met that person at the event, how did the woman get by the watchful claws of Steve? Maybe she was a pretty blonde -- we all know they can never hurt anyone. Put your kids on their laps without fear.
Or maybe she had stale cereal in the trunk of her car, and knows how to make a macaroni picture frame. You never know when that kind of skill might be needed.

How bizarre that TFW -- many years past her superstardom in reality TV -- travels with a bodyguard. Of course, we know Steve wears many hats (and blue shirts) -- airport navigator, buffer to keep people from approaching her, Jiminy Cricket on her shoulder before she bites someone's head off, dinner companion, etc. But what must people think when they see this cigar store Indian standing behind her all weekend?

Tucker's Mom said...

grace_lulyWhat a cutie! Has Shoka had any visits with Nala recently?
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Sorry, grace. Nala doesn't know how to help Shoka ;-(

Tucker's Mom said...

Why in God's name is Shoka wearing a coat?

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If these dog photos are recent, the coats are ridiculous.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Look at her passive aggressive sorry not sorry hashtag for the dog post. She's such a tool. She can be defiant if she wants to even in the face of fans explaining to her they're tired of the dogs. But she's risking losing followers. I guess she doesn't care when she can just buy them. At the end of the day she does not give two hoots about her fans' reasonable requests or making them happy.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I'll be mighty suspicious if that post gets
a ton of likes. Real moms are busy on Monday mornings. Even kids who were on late spring break are back at school by now. so real moms are busy getting them ready, and out the door. And many moms are then going straight to jobs of their own.

Oh, and a real SINGLE mom, as TFW claims to be, who's been away from home
all weekend, would come home to a million things to do, and wouldn't have the time or the inclination to post dog pictures.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Tucker's mom 184 Hey,if TLC still believes they can get people to watch Kate's show even when they do the same thing over and over again,her fans should enjoy all the dog pictures.Speaking of the show,she's once again admitting more episodes.Whats odd is that back then she'd tease her fans with comments like "You'll just have to wait and see ;)"but now she's straight up admitting to more episodes to anyone who asks.I tried to find a twitter sighting to see if that confirms KIAT post but nothing.With all these dog pictures,is she trying to deflect something because if she was filming i'd assume she'd be silent for a week.

Sad but true said...

Uh, not many people at all have asked about Shoka. Her life is entirely made up in her head. And still with the excuses about Nala. You hated that dog, K8, you even hated Shoka at that time. Why continue to lie about something people who watched your show are pretty clear about?

kateplusmy8 Shoka is 8 years young.... :) And reminder to Nala inquiries, she has another family and lives on tons of land too:)! We miss her but at that time, when the kids were very young, I could only handle one dog! They are TONS of work and although we miss her, I know at the time I made the right decision... 😥 @woweemauii @grace_luly @nslc_punk

kateplusmy8 Yes! New shows coming this summer I hear! :) #KatePlus8 #TLC @potato_pancake_yumm @kamakshinarula1

Tucker's Mom said...

I guess she doesn't care when she can just buy them
(((((((
I get the sense that all of Kate's social media platforms are simply a means to grift free stuff and get herself mentioned on tabloid websites and magazines.
She's not curating a successful blog or IG account. She pumps up the numbers and uses that to get offers and mentions.
Sorry, not sorry, I'm not believing it.

Tucker's Mom said...

You would think there would be some mention, somewhere, about Kate's maybe speaking or appearance engagement in Ohio.
No one but that one person attending makes a post about seeing or meeting her?

Tucker's Mom said...

kateplusmy8 Shoka is 8 years young.... :) And reminder to Nala inquiries, she has another family and lives on tons of land too:)! We miss her but at that time, when the kids were very young, I could only handle one dog! They are TONS of work and although we miss her, I know at the time I made the right decision... 😥 @woweemauii @grace_luly @nslc_punk

kateplusmy8 Yes! New shows coming this summer I hear! :) #KatePlus8 #TLC @potato_pancake_yumm @kamakshinarula1

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She's such a liar. Kate did not like Nala and she had to go.
Also, "I hear"? You don't know that your show will be airing new episodes?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

As far as TFW not sharing her plans, it smacks of secrecy more than privacy. She surely doesn't respect her children's privacy: she's proven that again and again. But she withholds seemingly innocuous information regularly, in a way that doesn't make much sense. I think it gives her a sense of power and control, which narcissists can't get enough of.

But growing up in a household where secrets are regularly kept can be extremely damaging. Remember when TFW said she told her kids to tell their friends who ask about the show that they can't talk about those private things? This advice coming from a woman who allowed her children to be filmed on the gee-dee POTTY, with their pants around their ankles? As I've said before, these kinds of confusing boundary issues will wreak havoc on the children's future personal relationships.

Sad but true said...

And let's not forget that you got rid of both Nala AND Shoka, and only brought Shoka back after a year for a new story line. You're not fooling anyone, K8. Well, maybe a few thousand "fans." But those numbers are dwindling and, hopefully, will continue to do so.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#195), funny that TFW will say the kids miss Nala, but half of them are just fine and dandy not seeing their dad.

GollyGee said...

Is it possible that she took the picture of the pups and especially the dog cookies BEFORE she left for the conference?

I am just dumbfounded at the thought that she went to this conference and maybe even spoke, even though she was not not the the list of speakers. Thing happen, and somebody failed to put her name on the list and on the website, if she was there to speak.

I am thinking this was filmed. The kids were with Jon. Wonder if Mady and Cara had nanny duty for Alexis. Or the helper at the moment did it.

If me and a friend would have went, I would of stood way back and taken many photos of her and Steve. Public place. Free speech.
Let him try. It would be on YouTube. lol

To the poster who's friend dragged her to go see her years ago at the church, was she and Jon being photographed for 10 dollars?

If they were, this was a 4x cash flow bonanza for them!

The 10 dollar pictures of Jon and Kate. Cash only.

The 20 family portrait card, signed. Cash only.

The love offering. Passed around baskets to sympathic people wanting to help them, even though they were being lied to and closing on a million dollar home with 23 rolling acres and a barn full of horses.

Cash only.

Appearance/speaking fee Certified Cashiers Check.

The only check that TFW will take.

GollyGee said...

When they were closing the house deal, it was stipulated in the contract that the horses had to stay and couldn't be sold. This is from the Dr. that owned the house. Before the ink was dry on the papers, she sold them.

I wish the Dr. Would of sued her for breach of contract. Just even for the aggravation.

Sad but true said...

GollyGee said... 199
Is it possible that she took the picture of the pups and especially the dog cookies BEFORE she left for the conference?
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I think there are plenty of pictures on her phone that she keeps on hand to throw out whenever she needs attention or deflection. Mady seems to keep her well-supplied.

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