Tuesday, December 6, 2016

Discussion Thread: New Orleans, Here We Come! 12/6/2016

New Orleans, Here We Come!
The Gosselins take on New Orleans! They enjoy the food, culture and learn some southern etiquette along the way.

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Sherry Baby said...

Not for a while, apparently, she's having something done to both eyes. I have no idea. Good golly, will she miss next week's crapisode? Lordy be!

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Did she schedule this surgery to take place on a day between the two Kate episodes? It wouldn't surprise me if she did.

Sherry Baby said...

Don't you love misplaced modifiers with a holiday theme?

"Teen gets bonus after losing wallet dressed as Santa"

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Ha! Was the wallet wearing a tiny Santa cap and beard?

Jeanne said...

I believe Kate sent Colin away so she could continue filming. I don't believe she has suffered a moment's regret. The blind item couldn't be Kate.

I didn't know the season was trip after trip after trip. Just like every mother with 8 children. It might actually be cheaper and easier for TLC though. I'm sure they can do a trip to the Poconos for less than the cost of a deck. I wonder what house renovation she wanted next. And they actually don't have to deal as much with Kate's demands. There are maids and room service and spas and Steve trying to keep Kate from completely shaming herself in public.

I feel bad for the kids, constantly being food restricted and treated as fat. They are not fat. The tups are only 12. They haven't really started the thinning out that comes with puberty. The twins look normal. The kids should have access to normal amounts of food, especially plenty of fruits and vegetables. But Kate has such a skewed reality.

Leslie said...

Here is an Access Hollywood clip of Kate speaking about Collin, Jon, and gum on socks. Umm,umm,ummm.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=facebook+kate+plus+8#id=5&vid=758338b58e81ace0b033669d387334b7&action=click

kris said...

Maybe Andrea was Colin's 'handler' ?? He's gone so now she's gone.

Vanessa said...

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=facebook+kate+plus+8#id=5&vid=758338b58e81ace0b033669d387334b7&action=click
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Yup, see? Forgive MY mistakes, I'M not perfect...NOBODY IS...
But JON?? Airing grievances to the public? AS YOU ARE SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT YOUR SON??
Walking talking contradiction. A set of rules for HER and another set for EEEEEEVERYONE else. And why did Natalie say that Jon made a "bold" claim about not knowing where Collin is? It's not BOLD it's the truth. Even when talking about Collin, it's how bad and hard it's been on her. Bump in the road...we've had many of those...it's always ALWAYS how everyone else's pain and suffering is really hers.

Jillygee said...

Are they being treated as fat??

TLC stinks said...

Jeanne, I believe the trips exist because they've got nothing else to film. It's really come to that point. On the plus side, you do learn fun things to do with kids in new cities, but a major downer is Kate and her kids turning any new adventure into a scream fest.

Just as an aside, when I turned 16, I was embarrassed to take our annual summer vacations with my parents. That was the last year I traveled with them. When I was 17, I had my driver's license and was allowed to stay home. I felt like such an adult! I was a good kid and it's awesome they trusted me.

Really, I cannot believe Cara and Mady enjoy any of this. Ok, maybe Mady, because she's into the fame.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sherry Baby said... 199
I'm not sure why the ratings make any difference. They had dismal ratings before and TLC cancelled, but came back with no official announcement that they were rescinding the cancellation.

So they cancel this time around. It doesn't necessarily mean that she's toast and they will never resurrect her. Does it?
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No guarantee that TLC will never film the G kids again (like Honey Boo Boo- I don't think we're going to see her ever again, no matter the milestone). But, how far can they push it? Jon + Kate +8 became Kate Plus 8, like Jon never even existed. Now it's Kate + 7, with very little explanation about Colin thus far. He's just...absent.
I mean, the wheels are totally coming off. Kate has admitted to being investigated MANY times by CPS, and no one is blinking?
HUH??
CPS doesn't jump each time some hater phones in. There has to be some substance to trigger an investigation.
The allegations of cruelty are becoming too numerous to mention, and the sad, sad outcome of fractured parental relationships and ZERO coparenting makes this shit show very tragic indeed.
I'd put this right up there at Duggar level.

To quote "Veep", Kate's more toxic than a urinal cake in Chernobyl.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I find it chilling that TFW tries to frame C's situation as just a bump in the road. It's not a broken water heater or a missed flight, or even the loss a job. Her young child has such severe emotional challenges that he has been removed from his home -- separated not only from his mother, but from his 5 same-age siblings, with whom he has traveled as a pack since birth. As well as his older sisters -- both of whom we have seen take up for him on camera. This is not a bump in the road. It's a family TRAGEDY.

Good lord, the woman lost it when there was an inch of water on her laundry room floor the day of the tups' 3rd birthday carnival. But this is just a minor inconvenience?

Vanessa said...

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=facebook+kate+plus+8#id=5&vid=758338b58e81ace0b033669d387334b7&action=click
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Oh the hair twirling? Who posted about that a while ago? She's lying right there. "I" have fierce determination...what does that mean?
"the privacy and protection of my kids, especially Collin is of utmost important to me" ummm oookkaaaaaayy

TLC stinks said...

kris said....

Maybe Andrea was Colin's 'handler' ?? He's gone so now she's gone.

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I am thinking that is possible. It's simply not a coincidence Andrea leaves around the same time frame as Collin. From all those post-it notes everywhere, she has household help who can fill in when needed to help with the kids. Andrea may have been hired specifically to watch Collin or even school him at home but was portrayed on air as the "babysitter" for all the tups. I suspect she was live-in help unless she was local help. Anyone know?

BTW, those note reminders are incredibly insulting to the "helpers".

Vanessa said...

But Andrea was on the Birthday episode with no Collin

Vanessa said...

Good lord, the woman lost it when there was an inch of water on her laundry room floor the day of the tups' 3rd birthday carnival. But this is just a minor inconvenience?
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Good one.

GollyGee said...

2 headlines and an IG comment.

There are no words.

COLLIN GOSSELIN’S “TREATMENT” PROGRAM HAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED STUDENTS TO ESCAPE, REPORT CLAIMS

Kate’s Son In Danger? Collin’s Treatment Facility Accused Of Letting Patients Escape!

1lofarideNormally I'm not one to comment on instagram posts, but I am so baffled by all the negative comments. Take a second to think - if you had a close friend who was a single parent of eight young children, would you have the audacity to say these types of rude comments to his/her face? Absolutely not. This lovely family has continued to bring us entertainment and joy by allowing to get a glimpse into their activities, and for anyone to question the way they live, learn, and grow is absolutely ludicrous.

Entertainment? AND JOY!?!

You must find TFW screaming, fussing, fighting among the kids, and filming with one child missing an exciting Tuesday night filled with entertainment and JOY and Chaotic Fun!

Get yer popcorn!

TLC stinks said...

First time who Andrea was addressed by Kate in Dec. 2015, landscape episode which was filmed the previous summer.

From Radar recap:

Andrea the babysitter, or nanny, or “worker” (as Kate likes to refer to people she hires), is finally — albeit vaguely — addressed in this episode: “Andrea joined us for the summer to help around the house and just be another me.”

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Apparently, Andrea stayed around longer than just the summer of 2015 because she went to New Orleans in March 2016 and finally departed for good in June.

Vanessa said...

Good lord, the woman lost it when there was an inch of water on her laundry room floor the day of the tups' 3rd birthday carnival. But this is just a minor inconvenience?
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Further, there's the "perversion" (NOT sexual, but an abnormal/off reaction to things)

Sad but true said...

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=facebook+kate+plus+8#id=5&vid=758338b58e81ace0b033669d387334b7&action=click

Is this a new interview? Or something she did a couple of weeks ago for her promo tour?

TLC stinks said...

Vanessa, Andrea still was needed, IMO, to watch the kids while Kate sleeps in or whatever she does. For whatever reason, Andrea's departure coincides with Collin's. My hope is that she testifies to what she witnessed.

One thing that is apparent is that those kids have had no stability with all the nannies and crew daddies coming and going over the years. Guess who the one stable presence is: Steve. That says plenty.

Vanessa said...

Vanessa, Andrea still was needed, IMO, to watch the kids while Kate sleeps in or whatever she does. For whatever reason, Andrea's departure coincides with Collin's. My hope is that she testifies to what she witnessed.

One thing that is apparent is that those kids have had no stability with all the nannies and crew daddies coming and going over the years. Guess who the one stable presence is: Steve. That says plenty.
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Agree. just a reply to the post saying Andrea was Collin's handler and that she disappeared when he did.

Formerly Duped said...

I'm so confuse about the timeline of these new episodes. Was the New Orleans trip the summer before the igloo winter which was before the May birthday when Collin was gone? From what I've seen and read the couch interviews are way out of sequence- the twins' makeup, hair length is different, the girl tups have braces then they don't, it's just 2 boys prsent, then 3 with Collin looking spaced. This programme is really poor quality in editing if nothing else.


Would a pscyh institute accept a juvenile patient just because of what his mother claimed? I know he has some issues but this seems extreme.I am so confused and sad about Collin!

Wowser said...

Anyone else wonder if maybe Andrea was the one Collin may have (speculation) lashed out at IF that's indeed what happened to get him kicked out of the compound? Andrea's leaving coincides with the timing. I personally hope she left because she couldn't "take one more minute with her" (like Ashley) and she can testify for Jon in what really happens in that house of horrors.

Anonymous said...

Andrea has been there since the Mexico trip in March 2015 (and if you count her New Zealand and Australia trip in 2010/2011)

-ajw

kris said...

Formerly Duped (#21), I think it goes like this:
**Igloo Episode was filmed during the big storm in Jan 2016
**Birthday Episode I assume was filmed sometime in May 2016
**New Orleans Kate said was filmed during Spring Break 2016, so March-April sometime?

It's crazy because they kids look so different between the episodes and the interviews.

TLC stinks said...

I tend to believe there was a physical altercation with Collin and someone within the household, but it had not occurred to me about Andrea. That kind of makes sense since a nonfamily member would most likely report such a thing but Kate would want to keep it quiet if it happened to her or one of the kids (to keep filming).

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW, if the privacy and protection of your kids, especially C, is of utmost important to you, I have a super-duper easy way to help. In fact, you'll bang yourself on the head, wondering why you hadn't thought of it sooner:

GET. OFF. TV.

Like literally.

TLC stinks said...

Would a pscyh institute accept a juvenile patient just because of what his mother claimed? I know he has some issues but this seems extreme.I am so confused and sad about Collin!
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I found this:
Decisions about hospitalization are most often based on the severity of a patient’s illness and on the nature of his or her social support system (e.g., stability at home, academic and social adjustment, etc.) rather than on the diagnosis. Thus, for example, one seriously depressed patient may need inpatient treatment while another may not.
Each child’s illness must be individually assessed before admission to inpatient treatment is considered. In addition to the assessment of the need for hospitalization, psychiatric hospitals have stringent criteria for the admission of children and adolescents, including:
The child poses an actual or imminent danger to him or herself or to others.
The child’s behavior is destructive or inappropriate in the community.
The child needs medication which must be adjusted or closely monitored.
The child requires a period of stabilization calling for 24-hour comprehensive and intensive observation by skilled professionals.
The child cannot sustain social relationships and is disruptive in school, the family, or the community.
The child has failed to improve in other, less restrictive settings.

I also read that family therapy is encouraged with the patient, parents and possibly siblings. Apparently this has not been happening since Jon says the kids have not seen Collin. This is recommended to help the child reach goals and can be eventually discharged back into the family. Hopefully the custody judge will make Kate participate in therapy sessions with Collin.

RoxyHelen said...

Formerly Duped said... 21
I'm so confuse about the timeline of these new episodes. Was the New Orleans trip the summer before the igloo winter which was before the May birthday when Collin was gone? From what I've seen and read the couch interviews are way out of sequence- the twins' makeup, hair length is different, the girl tups have braces then they don't, it's just 2 boys prsent, then 3 with Collin looking spaced. This programme is really poor quality in editing if nothing else.

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I don't think it's bad editing, I think it's done on purpose so people can be confused about the timeline and not be able to piece things togethet. A sequence of event can give clues and they are trying to keep as much as they can under wraps when it comes to Collin it seems.

Dmasy said...

Flimsy (26) -- Well, you are just scathingly brilliant!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jillygee (#7), someone said TFW seemed concerned about all the beignets the kids had indulged in, and that she hesitated when saying the kids needed to "burn off all, um, that sugar." (paraphrasing -- sorry I don't know exactly) And since we've witnessed her bizarre portion control habits for a decade, it wouldn't be a stretch to think she'd be worried about the appearance of her brood.

Vanessa said...


Flimsy (26) -- Well, you are just scathingly brilliant!


*****
Funny

As usual, her words mean zilch if her actions say otherwise

FYI said...

I think they aired the birthday episode out of order because they figured that would be the big draw-the hook, so to speak, to get new or former viewers to watch. More people would be inclined to watch a Gosselin birthday episode, than to watch another Gosselin travelogue.

They probably also figured that if they aired the New Orleans trip first, with all of Kate's histrionics, it may turn off viewers and make them decide to not watch anymore. Plus with all the news about Collin, people would wonder why is he in the episode, when Kate just said that he's no longer living at home.

By airing the birthday episode first, they probably figured more people would tune in to find out what was going on with Collin and how the family was handling it. It also gave Kate a platform for her "media tour" discussing Collin. Unfortunately, that backfired on them.

No sure if the rest of the episodes are going to be aired in date order. The Poconos trip had to be filmed in early July, since Kate said that the pups were 10 weeks old when they went there, and they were born in April.

The Space Camp show which was filmed in Huntsville, Alabama, may have been filmed after that, or it might have been filmed on their way to New Orleans. It'll be curious to see whether Collin appears in that episode.

If there is a beach vacation(other than the Poconos) that probably was filmed in August, and the twins' birthday would have been filmed in October.

Then there's that "game night" episode, which Collin is definitely in. It's anyone's guess when that was filmed. Since they started filming again at the end of January, my guess is that it was filmed sometime in February.

Sad but true said...

RoxyHelen said... 28

I don't think it's bad editing, I think it's done on purpose so people can be confused about the timeline and not be able to piece things togethet. A sequence of event can give clues and they are trying to keep as much as they can under wraps when it comes to Collin it seems.
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Agree totally. I think the 2d episode in this season was supposed to be the Gosselin family game (sound like she's trying to get an app developed?), which we know Collin was in. We know this because of that woman in Poland who commented that she saw it when two episodes (the other was the igloo) aired there back in the summer, before we knew anything about Collin. With K8 as "producer," I bet it was her idea to move everything around---if the last episode is the game, hey fans! Lookie here, Collin came home. Not. She may also make some lame argument that moving things around helps protect "privacy," but no, I don't think so.

White Organza said...

I see we talk a lot about C hurting someone in the household, but is that a fact or a theory on our part? Maybe C, hurt himself... It happens. One of my co-worker found his 8 year-old dead in a closet: he had hung himself after a minor altercation with his mother. She was in her mid-forties and just had a surprise baby. The 8 year old had a hard time with losing his baby of the family status. He probably was depressive but nobody took it too seriously because we don't associate 8 year old and depression.

Sherry Baby said...

I don't think it's bad editing, I think it's done on purpose so people can be confused about the timeline and not be able to piece things togethet. A sequence of event can give clues and they are trying to keep as much as they can under wraps when it comes to Collin it seems.

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It doesn't take much to confuse the sheeple, so I don't think it really matters. As long as the kids and Kate are there for their viewing amusement and entertainment, they are happy campers.

Layla said...

I think TLC is mixing up the episodes on purpose, to lessen the impact of Collin being gone. It would be a glaring change if he were suddenly gone from all episodes in the middle of a season, it if he is there for, say, every other episode, that might lessen the impact.

There are going to be some big decisions made at the end of this season. What to do about Collin's absence? Keep filming without him? Rename the show? Ignore the fact that C ever existed? I think the deciding factor will be ratings. If they stay low, then it's not going to be worth their time or money. If ratings go up, like last year, then maybe they will try another season. Each season has had significantly lower ratings than the one before it. If that trend continues, then the show is done no matter what.

Next week is the episode with the puppies, and the next two will be during holiday time when people are taking time off work and don't have to get up early. The next three weeks are going to be the deciding factor. If the ratings don't go way up during that time, then it will most likely be over.

Kylie said...

Flimsy, I agree with Dmasy, that was a brilliant comment. 'Like literally' -- lol!!

Anonymous said...

I think the filmed shows are shown out of order so that Collin is seen, then he's not, in order to make viewers think he is allowed 'out' and has not been continuously confined.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't think it's bad editing, I think it's done on purpose so people can be confused about the timeline and not be able to piece things togethet. A sequence of event can give clues and they are trying to keep as much as they can under wraps when it comes to Collin it seems.
December 8, 2016 at 7:55 AM
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100%
Starting off with a "looking back" episode? Why?
Sounds like there's a lot of back and forth in time, and that's for a reason.
It will become patently clear that Colin is gone and it will begin to down on anyone watching, who has 2 brain cells to rub together, that Colin has been gone for months and months now.

FYI said...

Now that I think about, the game show was probably filmed in January when they had snow days. The snow storm occured on Friday, Jan. 22, and they had snow days the following Monday and Tuesday.

I think the game night filming had already been planned before the storm, which explains while TLC was already there when the storm hit. It always seemed funny that TLC(or Figure 8) would travel in a snowstorm just to film the kids playing in the snow and building an igloo. When the kids ended up having snow days, they came up with the idea about filming them building the igloo.

Since the game is supposed to be about show trivia, it was probably planned as a follow up episode to tie in with the anniversary special.

Tucker's Mom said...

White Organza said... 34
I see we talk a lot about C hurting someone in the household, but is that a fact or a theory on our part? Maybe C, hurt himself... It happens. One of my co-worker found his 8 year-old dead in a closet: he had hung himself after a minor altercation with his mother. She was in her mid-forties and just had a surprise baby. The 8 year old had a hard time with losing his baby of the family status. He probably was depressive but nobody took it too seriously because we don't associate 8 year old and depression.
December 8, 2016 at 8:54 AM
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What a tragedy. It's almost unfathomable.
This morning, I saw that a 14-year old was shot at school, by a security cop. Apparently, he was in a fight/knife fight with someone and then started wielding 2 huge knives at kids all around him.
He was told to drop them, did not, and the security cop took one shot.
14. It boggles the mind.

Tucker's Mom said...

Melissa Dart ‏@mrmiscio 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 thank you for continuing to share your kids w/us. U inspire me. I truly enjoy watching the kids grow into lovely young adults!
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Doofii like this are why Kate doesn't go away. They think the children are Kate's possessions, like cars and jewelry, and they just want more and more.
Children have no rights to them, and if a parent wants to use them to get money to entertain the masses, who cares?
As long as they can park their arses on their recliners, with a bucket of fried chicken and quart of pop, they watch with a clear conscience.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Dmasy (#29) and Kylie (#37), thank you for your kind words.

As so many of us say on the regular, it's the disconnect between TFW's words and actions which make my stomach turn. You'd almost respect her if she said, look, our family is going through something horrible, but, you know, doing the show is my bread and butter, and I love it, and it may not be the best thing for the kids right now, but, well, I've made this decision for the family, so that's what we're going to do.

But to grin like a chimp on the cover of People magazine and tell a reporter about your son's very private issues, and then turn around and say his privacy is your number one concern? Gimme a break.

Sad but true said...

Kate is a twit said... 32

No sure if the rest of the episodes are going to be aired in date order. The Poconos trip had to be filmed in early July, since Kate said that the pups were 10 weeks old when they went there, and they were born in April.
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Call me crazy but: Do you think the whole puppy thing was arranged at the point when K8 KNEW Collin would be leaving? Near as I can figure, based on what she's said on IG and Twitter, these dogs were born somewhere in the third week of April. Gestation for dogs is 63 days. So these pups would have been conceived maybe mid-Feb or a little later. She claims Shoka is the puppy daddy, but really? We'll never know that for certain, God knows she's bent and twisted "storylines" in the past for her own benefit.

We know Collin was gone by his b'day (although we don't know when the scavenger hunt was actually filmed), so it does not strike me as odd that she might have conjured up this story arc when it became clear to her that Collin would have to go. I mean, puppies (especially multiples!) are guaranteed cuteness and something for Kate to show her "softer" side (as in, acting skills), which you know the audience would expect to be seeing once her son vanishes.

I hope that didn't sound too deranged. I really DO see her as being exactly this manipulative, if not more so.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't think Colin's privacy is so much Kate's #1 concern, as is exactly where Colin is and why.
She's not trying to protect her son. Kate is trying to protect herself, her brand and her show.
I hope that court date is very soon. We'll see how big the "bump in the road" is then.

TLC stinks said...

I see we talk a lot about C hurting someone in the household, but is that a fact or a theory on our part? Maybe C, hurt himself.

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Not the impression I'm getting with her talk of social and educational issues. He could have been depressed, but if he tried to hurt himself, Jon would not be so much in the dark about where he is. I don't see how she could possibly keep that information from him considering the authorities would be involved. No, I just think she could not control Collin any longer, it was obvious something was off when he appeared on camera, and some event occurred that forced Collin to be taken from the home. She's been hiding Collin for years from Jon and his camera time was greatly reduced, so I do not believe for one second she voluntarily sent him away for treatment. She needs all eight. That's her hook. Ah but the irony is delicious... her worst fears have been realized because the kid is talking and that's why CPS is still investigating.

Layla said...

I do not understand all the fans saying that Kate inspires them. What, exactly, does she inspire them to do? Engineer a HOM pregnancy in order to get a reality TV show? Find ways to force their children to work and support them? Sell their family's privacy for the almighty dollar? Freak out and scream at every minor detail that displeases them (what agreat way to inject more drama into their lives!)? Banish everyone who dares to disagree with them, then cry about doing it all alone?

I'd be interested in hearing the answer.

TLC stinks said...

Not crazy...the puppies are to deflect from Collin. It's obvious. Also a bribe to the kids. She's that manipulative. Remember Jeff the Millionaire. He wised up. Just think. Her master plan could have been to marry the sucker and get pregnant. Like she did with Jon.

Tucker's Mom said...

I hope that didn't sound too deranged. I really DO see her as being exactly this manipulative, if not more so.
*****
After all the years of lies, deceit and manipulation, I'd rule out just about nothing!
I think Kate did breed Shoka, and I bet she had a pretty good idea of Colin's trajectory. With Colin or without him, the show needed another storyline to hook viewers, hence the puppies.

Nicky said...

Sorry - but this is WAY off topic....but my husband and I were making our grocery list last night, and he was in the fridge calling out items we needed. He called out a certain brand of salad dressing, and now that is the ad that pops up for me here. I mean, does my phone hear us? how does this happen? And I was writing our list on a piece of paper - not on my phone.

Just weird. And creepy. If anyone has any insights......LOL!

jamezvader1194 said...

@TLC stinks Marrying Jeff was probably the plan,he'd be the Jon replacement.But i highly doubt Kate would get pregnant by him though,i think that would make Kate look like a duggar wannabe.

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 47

Her fans are people who believe that she is doing it "all alone" and that she is an organizational wiz. Oh and they like that she's a hard-ass at times. But at the same time they're congratulating her about how well-behaved the kids are, they're commenting about Mady's nasty mouth, and Cara's sullenness, and Hannah's whining, etc., etc. So how "great mom" co-exists with all the obvious behavior problems, I don't know. And it's been shown time and time again that her "organization skills" are really list-making skills, as in making lists so other people do the work that she claims (and has been successful in selling) she does "all alone" (sob, tear) as a SAHM.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 48
. . . Her master plan could have been to marry the sucker and get pregnant. Like she did with Jon.
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LOL, I wonder how long she mulled over the idea of going for triplets with Jeff. Nah, she's too vain about her body for that now.

Vanessa said...

e's not trying to protect her son. Kate is trying to protect herself, her brand and her show.
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That's it in a nutshell. If he's talking to.professionals they are letting him speak his truth and they will believe them. She must be pacing like a caged animal, knowing she can't spin or coerce Collin into keeping her secrets

jamezvader1194 said...

@Layla (47) I don't get the fans who claim that Jon does know where Collin is.Why would Jon go on these talk shows and claim he doesn't know where he is if he does?How do they know that he knows?It does seem like Kate's fans believe Parental alienation doesn't exist and that the kids who don't go to Jon just dislike their father for some unknown reason and i doubt the reason is because he talks about them on T.V when their mother does the EXACT same thing.

FYI said...

I was look at Kate's twitter time line from earlier this year and found these tweets. These tweets were made on Apr.9. The last time Kate tweeted prior to Apr 9. was on Mar. 16(after the NO trip). BTW, Easter was on Mar. 27 this year.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 Apr 9
Sorry 4 my absence...can't keep up anymore it seems! Delayed Easter pics-better L8 than never! #Thx4ColorSuggestions

Christian Snyder ‏@csnyder5 Apr 9
@Kateplusmy8 Looks like fun! You shouldn't go so long without tweeting Kate!

Kate's reply is quite interesting, don't you think?

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 Apr 9
@csnyder5 I know. I've had quite the time over the last few months.... I'll tell you all about it.. When I have a chance to breath:)

She'd didn't say that she'd been just very busy like she usually does when she's absent from twitter due to filming, but that she'd "had quite the time".

Maybe she meant it to be about their filming schedule, but it could also indicate what was going on with Collin.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 Apr 9
@csnyder5 I know. I've had quite the time over the last few months.... I'll tell you all about it.. When I have a chance to breath:)

She'd didn't say that she'd been just very busy like she usually does when she's absent from twitter due to filming, but that she'd "had quite the time".

Maybe she meant it to be about their filming schedule, but it could also indicate what was going on with Collin.

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If it IS about Collin, and I suspect it very well could be, because she framed it about her having quite a time....I wonder if she was advised to keep off twitter during that time lest she say something she shouldn't.

And notice too how she promises to tell them all about it....after Kate Coyne gets first dibs and cuts her the check, right? Nasty woman.

Vanessa said...

claim that Jon does know where Collin is.Why would Jon go on these talk shows and claim he doesn't know where he is if he does?How do they know that he knows?***

Khate, point blank, was asked in that interview what she thought about Jon not knowing where Collin is. She didn't say "OH he knows " but she spun it as usual "he chooses to air his grievances to the public " see what she did there?
Deflected to take the focus off of her, we don't get to hear or dissect the REAL issue, that is that Jon hasn't a clue where his son is. And a double whammy, puts Jon on the defensive again, having to justify and explain himslef

Turn out the lights said...

If Colin is sharing abuse details with the proper authorities and Kate is charged/ exposed, it leads to losing the show, there's no way Kate will allow him to return to the compound-ever.
That's how narcissists work.
The only person that has remained constant in her life is Steve, and that's because they have one common goal-- making lots of money.

Sad but true said...

Nicky said... 50

LOL, this has actually happened to me when I have been THINKING of something. And I don't even want to go there. :)

Sad but true said...

jamezvader1194 said... 55
@Layla (47) I don't get the fans who claim that Jon does know where Collin is.
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Kate out-and-out CONFIRMED that Jon doesn't know where Collin is, so the fans are just deluding themselves, as usual.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 Nov 29
It was such a difficult party w/o Collin... We've learned 2 appreciate family more & pull together..Even more! #LifeIsntEasy @TLC #KatePlus8
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@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Didn't watch so not sure if the kids were sympathetic but, In our family-it's ALL or nothing! WE wouldn't be able to enjoy
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More light bulbs are turning on inside the heads of moms who see through Kate's b.s.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sue
‏@CyndiSuan
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Didn't watch so not sure if the kids were sympathetic but, In our family-it's ALL or nothing! WE wouldn't be able to enjoy
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More light bulbs are turning on inside the heads of moms who see through Kate's b.s.
December 8, 2016 at 1:43 PM
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Also, from the clips I viewed, I didn't see one ounce of sadness in Kate during filming of the birthday episode. She was the usual Cheshire Cat, in her glory, vying to be the center of attention and get as much screen time as she can.

Midnight Madness said...


And notice too how she promises to tell them all about it....after Kate Coyne gets first dibs and cuts her the check, right? Nasty woman.

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Is Kate C still in bed with Kate G?

TLC stinks said...

Ok, I'll concede she is too vain about her rockin' hot body, so maybe her and Jeff would adopted? She had to figure some way to get babies back on the show!

I think by now, Jon knows where Collin is, if Radar's source is correct. I Googled and found the institution right away. But I absolutely believe he hadn't a clue months ago. I just cannot believe she got away with hiding the kid from Jon.

Glad to hear other moms are seeing Kate for who she is; not a mother but a promoter. Going ahead with the birthday party was cruel.

Anonymous said...

Allowing the birthday party without Collin to be filmed and promoted as entertainment for the masses was diabolical. She has no concern for Collin and the feelings of any of her children.

bm

Sad but true said...

Midnight Madness said... 64

Is Kate C still in bed with Kate G?
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Do a cover feature and almost weekly updates on the show/Kate's side of the Collin story count?

Tucker's Mom said...

I think by now, Jon knows where Collin is, if Radar's source is correct. I Googled and found the institution right away.
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Of course, don't print the name of the facility (which I have no idea how to even Google where Collin might be), but would this be a facility that hold and treats children for months and months and months?

TLC stinks said...

Judging from the timeline, Collin left in April because he was home for Easter (photo of them holding their plastic eggs) and went to New Orleans on spring break, March 6-16. On May 10 she posted the decorated table for six. I believe he was already gone at that point and was not home for his real birthday in addition to the fake TV birthday. That photo she posted onTwitter showed no kids and it was an easy coverup to decorate six places. I thought at the time it was a strange picture to post. The pups were born April 19. It could be possible he's never seen the puppies.

TLC stinks said...

Depends on his treatment plan how long he stays and how well he does. A key to success is family involvement and counseling for everyone. Is that happening? We'll know the answer if Jon gets custody.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Candace Cameron Bure just announced she's leaving The View. Another vacant chair of TFW's dreams.

just wondering said...

would this be a facility that hold and treats children for months and months and months?.........................

I was wondering the same thing. Some of these places are mere holding pens & just want to keep the beds full.

Others, like the one my grandson attends (he comes home on weekends) are really good & really expensive. (100-130k per year..)

I am getting the distinct vibe that Collin is refusing to see Kate. Just a feeling, no proof.

I know nothing about the inpatient treatment for children at this facility, however. But when he turns 13 (usually) he would be placed with the big kids up to the age of 18.
That's the time to really panic. Right now he is the big kid. Next year would be awfully traumatic for a boy who has never really been socialized.

Anonymous said...

Considering that Collin has spoken openly to staff about the abuse he has suffered, the poor child is probably too afraid to go home for a visit, even if she wanted him home.

bm

Sad but true said...

Without family participation in his treatment, I truly do no expect that Collin will ever live at Kate's again. And that may well be his choice.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 74
Without family participation in his treatment, I truly do no expect that Collin will ever live at Kate's again. And that may well be his choice.
December 8, 2016 at 4:42 PM
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It makes me wonder if Collin's brothers and sisters even realize that life is never going back to "normal". I don't think it ever will. I think Collin is not coming back to live with Kate.

Layla said...

Kate said that Collin's diagnosis is"fluid". If that is so, then how does she get her insurance to pay for his treatment? I seems to me that there would have to be a definitive diagnosis to justify his residence in the facility. But I have a suspicion that she doesn't want to admit what it really is. Especially if it might reflect badly on her.

njay said...

just wondering said... 72
would this be a facility that hold and treats children for months and months and months?.........................
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I wonder, if it's true that he harmed someone, allegedly, is it possible that he was arrested and is serving time in a detention center for troubled youth? It doesn't answer why Jon doesn't know but it does answer why, a little, why Jon said authorities story are different than Kate's.

Sad but true said...

Does anyone ever wonder if Collin's treatment by Kate, beyond what he suffered as a small child, is at all due to Hoffman singling him out in his book? I understand why Hoffman chose to highlight his interactions with Collin, which were poignant," but did doing so make Collin even more the target of K8's uncontrolled anger? Since Hoffman has actually spent time with these kids, I wonder what his read is on what has apparently happened to Collin. Hoffman never hinted in GosselinBook (as far as I recall) that he sensed any learning or other types of disabilities in any of the tups. I would love to know what he makes of what has happened in the past few months.

TLC stinks said...

I've never heard of a diagnosis that is fluid unless you take it to mean the diagnosis can change. I think it's spin to use that description.

TLC stinks said...

I wonder what his brothers are thinking. Can you imagine when they become adults and reflect back on this time?

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 76
Kate said that Collin's diagnosis is"fluid". If that is so, then how does she get her insurance to pay for his treatment?
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"Fluid" diagnosis= See, there's a perfectly good reason that I'm talking and not actually saying anything! I can just lie, lie, lie, lie and you can't pin it on me!

GollyGee said...

‏@ConcernedChick
Ha. The chef on Kate Plus 8 Liked my tweet to her. I tweeted her the link to @GosselinBook blogspot website.

https://twitter.com/ConcernedChick/status/807022273278476288

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Does anyone ever wonder if Collin's treatment by Kate, beyond what he suffered as a small child, is at all due to Hoffman singling him out in his book?

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Has anyone wondered if Kate's physical abuse of Collin has anything to do with what's happened now? How much does a two-year-old remember of beatings? Was there any physical damage done? Shaken Baby Syndrome? It's been in the back of my mind since all of this was disclosed.

CC said...

Warmth of the sun,

Yes I think many of us think the treatment Collin got from Kate as a toddler has caused his issues now. I definitely believe that.

Over In TFW's County said...

I wonder what his brothers are thinking. Can you imagine when they become adults and reflect back on this time?

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Are they on their best behavior because they live in fear of being the next ones to be put into a treatment facility?

I am somewhat familiar with the center that ROL has written about, but I didn't know that they have a residential program for kids.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

"Fluid" diagnosis= See, there's a perfectly good reason that I'm talking and not actually saying anything! I can just lie, lie, lie, lie and you can't pin it on me!

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What is a fluid diagnosis? Does this mean that the diagnosis itself is changing and is not stable, or that Collin's progress or condition isn't stable (fixed)?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


What is a fluid diagnosis? Does this mean that the diagnosis itself is changing and is not stable, or that Collin's progress or condition isn't stable (fixed)?


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Mostly I think it means she is free to lie, exaggerate or downplay what's going on with him as it fits the situation and the paycheck. What she means is her statements about him are fluid.

silimom said...

I think the blind gossip article people,think is about Collin is actually about Kanye West and the Kardashians.

As for his fluid diagnosis, I took it more to mean he's got several co-morbid conditions, e.g. OCD + anxiety + non verbal communication and sensory integration issues.

Does anyone have any idea how Jon's custody case is going? At this point, honestly, I sincerely hope the judge in the case awards him joint legal and physical custody and increases his visitation to 50/50.

Also, where is Shoka?

just wondering said...

Has anyone wondered if Kate's physical abuse of Collin has anything to do with what's happened now?...................

Most definitely. PTSD, ODD, psychological & physical abuse along with little if any bonding with his mother. Being born a HOM preemie already puts him (them) at risk from the moment of birth.

I think Kate would have known better than to shake him, but her temper is vicious & she takes every little thing as an insult to her authority.

Colin thrives in a world with structure & consistency and we all know he wasn't receiving much of that at home. If this place he's at is any good he is forming coping skills for his frustration & anger. No one is telling him that his stress, frustration, & pain are unwarranted, imagined, or in any way his fault.

He may have many coexisting & genetic physical problems along with the psychological trauma. (ie: fairly fluid)

Maybe he took out his pain on the chix, maybe on himself, maybe Hannah, maybe even Kate. The point is that he probably & finally snapped. He may be bipolar, or Asperger, or any combination of anything.

But the most important part of all of this is co-parenting and a peaceful home life. Either Collin or his therapists must have decided that Kate cannot provide what he needs.

Don't you think Kate would be bragging all over the place if she was spending time with him? No doubt in my mind on that.

My grandson goes in for what we call his tuneup every year. New tests, new or adjusted meds as he grows and matures. He's been doing this since he was seven He has been over medicated at times & under medicated at others. It happens. It's not always good & steady. He was cutting himself long before he was old enough to have heard about it, and has violently banged his head upon walls and trees trying in his immature way to make his brain work right.

I don't know if Jon is organized & patient enough for all that this entails. Collin may feel resentment toward him for not rescuing him long ago, & not mature enough to understand Kate's obvious disdain for him. Jon is his best bet, but Jon is really going to have to grow a pair & see this through if he wants his son to survive. Personally, I would cut Kate out of his life as much as possible & try to explain to him that she is mentally ill & not good for him. He's going to have to someday understand her illness in order to understand himself. I believe it will take a lifetime.

just wondering said...

PS.. I don't think Collin should ever be returned to Kate for one minute without a complete psychological evaluation & ongoing therapy for Kate. None of those kids should be with her without that stipulation.

Jeanne said...

The sheeple admire Kate for: the ability to make money off her children (instead of going broke like normal people), her rockin' bod, her fame, and prob most of all her kicking that lazy husband to the curb. I honestly think she attracts people who hate their lives.

TLC stinks said...

As a preemie, issues can emerge later. But who knows what she did to him as a baby. I thought he was adorable as a toddler but then I remember her threatening to throw his lovey in the trash and making him cry and I thought, "who does that?" Her cruelty started peeking through.

Here's the thing. If she was cruel to him all the time, don't you think, kids being kids, also picked on him? Not so much the boys, but those girls... except maybe Hannah. His home was not his safe place. With all that negativity, yelling, and probably beatings, no wonder the child is where he is today. Unfortunately, we've been discussing for years about Kate's parenting and the effect on those kids. Now we know. Four seem to be coping or just managing enough to please mom, and the other four are messes. And guess what? The four who seem normal visit their dad. Jon is not perfect and he's not rich, but he's a better parent and the judge needs to understand that and not listen to Kate's lawyer's nonsense.

Sad but true said...

Warmth Of The Sun said... 83

I'm with you there. I hope he's gotten brain scans and whatever other tests they do for closed brain injuries.

Vanessa said...

Has anyone wondered if Kate's physical abuse of Collin has anything to do with what's happened now? How much does a two-year-old remember of beatings? Was there any physical damage done? Shaken Baby Syndrome? It's been in the back of my mind since all of this was disclosed.
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Yes, I've thought about that as well. Also, those beatings didn't stop at 2 years of age.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#84), and I said, when TFW first came out with the news, that she was avoiding any specific condition as it would then open the floodgates for people asking her for help and advice about their child's challenges. She doesn't care about anyone else's kids. Look at how casually she treats her own son's problems.

just wondering said...

As for his fluid diagnosis, I took it more to mean he's got several co-morbid conditions, e.g. OCD + anxiety + non verbal communication and sensory integration issues.......

Yep!

Tucker's Mom said...

Does anyone have any idea how Jon's custody case is going? At this point, honestly, I sincerely hope the judge in the case awards him joint legal and physical custody and increases his visitation to 50/50.

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I don't know why a judge wouldn't award Jon back shared legal custody.
He made a huge mistake when he gave that up and what's the down side of having both parents make major decisions for the children that belong to both of them?

TLC stinks said...

Warmth of the sun said...
Has anyone wondered if Kate's physical abuse of Collin has anything to do with what's happened now? How much does a two-year-old remember of beatings? Was there any physical damage done? Shaken Baby Syndrome? It's been in the back of my mind since all of this was disclosed.

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If witnesses talk during this CPS investigation, she may be in a heap of trouble. It saddens me that so many people turned a blind eye, or were bought off, or simply were afraid of being sued, that allowed her to terrorize Collin. Jon also failed to take responsibility. Just because she gave birth does not mean she was emotionally equipped to properly care for those children.

Tucker's Mom said...

Scarlett solarz ‏@ScarStarWpg 11h11 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Watching,my 8 yr old daughter says "wow she looks young!" Like 23,like in her neck!"I said Im sure you'd be glad to know lol
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Janet Maclaughlin ‏@hockeymommac 12h12 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC would love to see the show just you dealing with everyday life. Seems new season is only trips and party's.
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Was she counting the rings? Kate's getting that tell-tale disconnect between the face and neck; pulled tight above and loose wrinkles below.
Hey, aging neckage is normal, but the notion that Kate's neck looks like she's 23 is just too funny!

Yes, Kate+8 is nothing more than contrived situations, lux trips, faux "giving back" and a bunch of Kate screeching and screaming.
IOW, the realest reality ever.
Isn't your life just like this??

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Just wondering (#82), thank you for sharing about your grandson's situation. How wonderful that he is so loved and cared for that his needs are carefully monitored.

TFW's poor sons have been insulted and marginalized from the moment they appeared on camera. C and J were described as stubborn and sneaky during the opening credits. J was labeled "the forgotten tup" by his own mother. Who also accused A of having smelly feet as a baby. Her boys were "icky" and "dirty." Their room smelled "like boy." Need I continue? It seems they were always kept at arm's length, except when it was time to hit them or scold them, or pretend to parent them on camera.

So is it any surprise that C's symptoms went unchecked for so long? That things which would have been red flags for any other parent on the planet were overlooked? Or, worse, deemed C's way of defying her authority? And it surely didn't help that he was passed off to a revolving door of nannies, and deprived of time with his dad. And to top it off, he had a mother who proudly proclaimed that being home a week and then away a week was what worked best for her family. The child was doomed.

Tucker's Mom said...

just wondering said... 89
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Thank you for posting this. It sounds like you have a great deal of experience and understanding about the challenges kids like Collin face, even with the best of circumstances.
I think Jon can gather the resources needed to help Collin live in a home environment with family. Jon is a grounded person, with friends and family to help him.
I hope the calm we see on the top of the water means Jon's legs and kicking like hell underneath the surface.

Sherri said...

Does anyone have any idea how Jon's custody case is going? At this point, honestly, I sincerely hope the judge in the case awards him joint legal and physical custody and increases his visitation to 50/50.

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In one of the tabloid articles, it mentioned that the judge ordered the psych evals to be done before a hearing would be scheduled. Depending on their caseloads, scheduling, the holiday timing, etc, I got the impression that it could take some time. I can even imagine the hearing not taking place until after the new year, but that's all speculation on my part.

Sue said...

If the kids are interviewed I wonder how Mady's snotty, flippant attitude will go over with the judge or case workers. I would think that they've seen it all and I believe that if they're any good they will hear only the voice of Kate coming through and cut her off at the knees. As for Cara, if she just sits there picking at her clothing looking down, never making eye contact and not speaking they'll know something is wrong. Who knows with the younger kids. They've apparently opened up to Jon so they may well tell the truth.

just wondering said...

I just thought about something. What if Kate can only visit Collin under supervision?

In that scenario it would make perfect sense (in Kate's world) to hide him & to downplay this for as long as possible. If that's the case, then she must be out of her mind with worry & none of it is for Collin.

just wondering said...

Thanks you guys.. My birth mother's family is genetically linked to depression, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder I & II, schizophrenia, suicide, and severe anxiety. It jumps around the generations to one degree or another.

Since I was the product of the old closed adoption program I had no way of knowing what was in my gene pool until I went to court & had my file opened back in 96. Closed adoptions were created with the best intentions but were devastating because of ignorance in the role of genetics. Adoptees are not puppies. We live a lot longer, have consciousness, and carry our own degree of baggage.

Kate's father is also a narcissist, correct? I seem to recall hearing some pretty strange stories about land/water rights that he was stealing or something? Major anger issues? I don't remember the details. Makes me wonder what else is in her family tree.

Formerly Duped said...

I would hope after all these months Collin would be placed in a more family-style environment.I know psych units don't like to keep beds filled unnecessarily and somehow i can't believe Collin is that badly off, that they haven't found a way to help him yet. Why hasn't- as far as we know- a family member or Jon found out what can be done to move him?

Sad but true said...

On Kate's last IG post.

yofavv.yanaWhat is mady's snapchat because in the episode the filters that she was playing with were on snapchat. And that's a social media

Yeah. Because you---anonyous, faceless "fan"---should be able to access her anytime you like. I imagine this is the sort of life the kids have to look forward to. Always being approached by randoms who think they know you and call you by name. Awful.

Kate's Fetid Soul... said...

continued...

Apparently, Kate's fans know that the way to her putrid heart, is through her super huge ego.

Anonymous said...

As a nurse, TFW should have been aware of preventive health maintenance for all children. Surely they had regular visits to the family Doctor or a Pediatrician trained to diagnose physical, behavior and mental health issues. Just wondering why Collin's 'special' needs were not addressed earlier in his young life. Maybe they were and that is why he was on meds as mentioned previously. His whole situation is so troubling knowing what he has endured. I can't forget the picture of him handing his mother the mother bear and her little cub which he felt represented her and himself; only to have her dismiss the gift as weird.

bm

Formerly Duped said...

Collin seemd a little rough as a toddler, and had his quirks, but in the later episodes, he was very gentle, extremely helpful and seemed close to his brothers. The girls were not always kind, but you certainly don't get the picture of a violent boy. He did seem doped, and you could see flashes of anger in his eyes at times, but he was always trying to please his mother and did a great job with those chickens. I can;t bear to think what happened to that boy all through his life and now, although maybe better off, he will miss home greatly.I don't get this lengthy banishment at all.

just wondering said...

TFW should have been aware of preventive health maintenance for all children................

Ahhh. Kate is only aware of what she wants to see. In her eyes the kids are a shining reflection of her. Literally! So she doesn't want to acknowledge faults that would then reflect poorly on her.

Depression? Get over it! Be strong!
Anxiety? Man up!!
Anger issues? I'm in charge!

Nothing matters to her as long as the kids look nice. They are only accessories to the image she has of herself.

(Sorry to be taking up so much space. I have a compression fracture (T-8) and I'm staying off my feet as much as I can)

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Just wondering (#111), remember when she took C to an eye doctor because he had a droopy eyelid? It was a cosmetic issue that caught her attention. Says a lot about her priorities, doesn't it?

TLC stinks said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-plus-8-kate-gosselin-annoys-kids-with-bug-freak-out-w453868

Get a load of the photo of Kate with that gaping maw of hers at the insectarium. Oh, watch the clip too. That psych eval cannot happen quick enough! It's not funny the way she behaves.

Tucker's Mom said...

Since I was the product of the old closed adoption program I had no way of knowing what was in my gene pool until I went to court & had my file opened back in 96. Closed adoptions were created with the best intentions but were devastating because of ignorance in the role of genetics. Adoptees are not puppies. We live a lot longer, have consciousness, and carry our own degree of baggage.
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You're very lucky to have gotten your history. Most adoptees don't/can't any, or if they do, it's not much. We realize more than ever now how many things are hereditary and how we can take measures to prevent or mitigate certain things.

It would be great if Jon could get his case expedited so that he can be with his kids for the holidays, especially Collin.

Turn out the lights said...

I guess Kate sees Collin as weak? Geez, she was able 'to will away' postpartum depression!
Why can't Collin will away his issues too??
(Insert major eyeroll)

just wondering said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 112
Just wondering (#111), remember when she took C to an eye doctor because he had a droopy eyelid?..............

She's a real piece of work, all right.. Everybody must be Tee Vee ready.

How much time did she waste trying to get the twins their own show? But did she want to be bothered with any drama classes? Voice lessons? Dance instruction? Nope...

Cara looks like she's so utterly miserable. She should get in touch with Jacob Roloff. He could probably at least relate & commiserate with her. I've only seen a few clips on here, but she seems like a mere shadow of her former self. Does she ever seem happy? Does she even smile any more? She used to have such a great relationship with her dad.

These kids really need their own lawyer.

Hey, Admin, maybe you make a few calls and round one up for them? There must be a way to find someone who is working only for them?? Is that even feasible?

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 112
Just wondering (#111), remember when she took C to an eye doctor because he had a droopy eyelid? It was a cosmetic issue that caught her attention. Says a lot about her priorities, doesn't it?

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Yes, it does.

Has to fix the outside for appearances sake.

Never fixes the insides until forced to.

Sherri said...

As a nurse, TFW should have been aware of preventive health maintenance for all children. Surely they had regular visits to the family Doctor or a Pediatrician trained to diagnose physical, behavior and mental health issues.

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TFW should have known, but whether she cared enough to prioritize it over what she felt was most important is another question completely. I've never gotten the impression that TFW was ever very concerned with the tups' routine healthcare. Heck, she often couldn't be bothered to take them to the doctor or even the ER when it was warranted and in her diaries / Robert's book it's documented how she felt she knew better than their pediatrician what they needed even when they were sick. I just don't think she ever put the emphasis on anything but appearances and maintaining her "brand" which certainly didn't include illness or imperfection.

Sad but true said...

From the same old IG photo:

XXXXX4I'm going to make your stuff peppers you inspire me to try new things in the kitchen. Kate you should write a cookbook it will be a best seller

XXXXX4@kateplusmy8 please write a cookbook it will.be very inspiring and a best seller

Uh, been there, done that, and no, it wasn't.

Tucker's Mom said...

You're in luck!! You can STILL Pre-Order Kate's cookbook!!
Just in time for Christmas!

Vanessa said...

She would never ever tolerate any immature screaming from.her kids, but she can break glass with that screech of hers. Like Mady let us know, the tells then all "the rules don't apply to me". The kids were genuinely mortified. Yeah, sure thing, she doesn't even see the camera.

localyocul said...

For a nurse she sure did screech and scream about the inside of whatever it was they were peeling (crawfish?). I'm sure she's seen grosser things than that!

PA Dutch Mom said...

You're in luck!! You can STILL Pre-Order Kate's cookbook!!
Just in time for Christmas!

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Thank goodness for small blessings. I have been scouring the internet for that greasy sausage casserole bake and the chicken cacciatore with green beans. If I pre-order the book now, will I have it in time to make those dishes on Christmas Eve? Do they freeze well, and must you defrost them before you cook them? Can I make the cacciatore in the slow cooker or will the beans get soggy? Nothing worse than mushy green beans!

Dmasy said...

Watching that one brief clip confirmed tome that I do not want to watch any of her episodes.

I saw some well-behaved children trying to learn and experience something new. They were actually paying attention to what the guide had to say.

Who was that loon with them? She didn't show any respect to the guide. She screeched and over-reacted. She actually needed her children to try to calm her into less disruptive behavior.

Those children live in an upside-down world with an out of control guardian.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

What kind of a role model is she to those kids? Screeching her head off & making a scene like an ill behaved 5 year old!

Poor Cara, she is so over it all...
Love those boys!.

Lynne In RI said...

PA (123): "Nothing worse than mushy green beans!"

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If the chicken isn't completely cooked, you could end up with a double whammy... Kate's Chicken Sammenella and soggy beans!

GollyGee said...

I watched the bug clip on Us magazine.

It was just sickening, just to look at her, chomping on the gum, looking at the big bug near her and her "scared" of it.

When they came around the corner in the beginning, Collin was in the group, in the back to the left side. I saw a woman with dark hair and her eyes were so big looking at everything. She didn't look all that friendly to me.

But in the rest of the clip, I didn't see Collin again. When the kids would go up to touch the bugs and the centipede and then her turn, she starts freaking out.

Did you see the people as a poster said, 30 feet away looking at what all the commotion was about? Did you see the lady walking around to get a look that was on a cell phone? That is a pretty loud commotion that you had going on FW that a lady on a cell phone 30 feet away had to see what was going on!

Her behavior in that clip was inexcusable. She is not funny. She is mentally ill and the psych eval's can't come quick enough.

Hopefully, Jon gets them all for Christmas this year.

TLC stinks said...

Hmmm, funny that Us magazine picked that particular clip. Glad you guys are taking a look. I could not believe it. It was so over the top uncomfortable...for everyone. She is a freak. I'm sure she exaggerated the whole thing, but it was badly done and totally inappropriate. No wonder fans are leaving in droves. Finally. So embarrassed for the kids.

Turn out the lights said...

The short clip! Lorde bee! Lol ugh
She acts like an immature elementary student.
As soon as the 'bug man' begins speaking, Kate has to say 'it was MY idea to come here!!!! (As if it mattered)

Gee, when i accompanied my kids on school field trips or our family trips to the zoos, etc, I stayed in the BACK so the KIDS could be at the forefront. Not Kate! She's right in the middle of the pack.
What a moron

Lanc Native said...

JusticeForCollin ‏@Sassccha 2m2 minutes ago
@katesbusted @Kateplusmy8 Now kids take care of themselves, at school 10hrs/day - K8 no job - cd easily volunteer - other moms of HOMs do

))))))))))))

No, the kids aren't at school 10 hours a day. That would be a brutal school day!

CC said...

Lanc Native,

I think the tweet was referring to the kids being out of the house for 10 hours each school day. 6am-4pm. Or 6:30-4:30? That would include their bus ride.

I think Kate said the kids take the bus at 6:45? Kate could definitely get a job working 8 hours a day during the week. There's no excuse.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think the tweet was referring to the kids being out of the house for 10 hours each school day. 6am-4pm. Or 6:30-4:30? That would include their bus ride.

I think Kate said the kids take the bus at 6:45? Kate could definitely get a job working 8 hours a day during the week. There's no excuse.

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Including transportation, it sure is about 10 hours. And I include transportation. That's part of your work day. Lots of kids spend 10 hours in school or on the road at their age, that's all fine. But yes, she has an extraordinary amount of time during each day to fill it with all kinds of things far more productive than stuffing peppers.

JM said...

Most mothers I know would not try something like that (with the bug) if they knew they would have that reaction because it would upset their kids to see them breakdown like that; a few I know would readily admit their fear rather than put their kids through that, no matter the age of the kids.

Tucker's Mom said...


Gee, when i accompanied my kids on school field trips or our family trips to the zoos, etc, I stayed in the BACK so the KIDS could be at the forefront. Not Kate! She's right in the middle of the pack.
What a moron
******
Not only does Kate have to be in the middle of everything, but she knows she's going to freak out with a bug on her hand. SHE KNOWS IT!
Hey, I hate bugs, so I get it. However, I wouldn't put myself in that situation in the first place.
No thank you, sir, I would NOT like to touch the bug. Not happening. Move along.
Jump off a building? No, I wouldn't. I know myself well enough to realize it could trigger an awful panic attack and I'm fine with living my life without the experience.
You couldn't pay me to do it. Nope. Sorry.
Especially since I know I might make a scene and heaven forbid, would not want to scare small children!

njay said...

Did anyone notice, hear or read about M wanting to start writing memoirs?

njay said...

Oh...and has anyone seen/read M saying that after bugging, no pun intended, her K finally let them have social media acct. again?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The next recap is up, OY VEY, and thanks for your comments on the last one, I appreciate your enthusiasm!

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