Tuesday, November 29, 2016

Discussion Thread: Sextuplets Turn 12! 11/29/2016

Kate creates a scavenger hunt for the sextuplets' 12th Birthday! The boys and girls are split into teams and compete to find clues that will eventually to their big party! 
60 Min. | PG

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Leslie said...

Sad by True: "My own comment responding to yours was calling into question your statement that Kate seems to place a high value on education. And I pointed to several other reasons she might have wanted this private school for her kids besides her highly valuing it for its own sake."
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My comment was about Kate denying Collin the computer to do his homework. It was not a post about why Kate decided to send her kids to private school or what were Kate's motives for sending her kids to private school.

Why don't you comment on the subject of the post and not a small point in my overall post. Do you think Kate outright denied Collin daily use of the computer to do his homework? Forget her motives of sending him to a private school. I was just saying why would a parent spend big bucks on a child's education yet block the child from doing ANY of his homework. That makes no sense. The child's school would catch on to this and Kate would be in big trouble. All seven of her kids are submitting their homework yet Collin doesn't. The school would ask Collin why he doesn't ever do his homework and Collin would rat Kate out causing a huge trouble.

Again, the subject of my post was Kate denying Collin use of the computer; not Kate's motives for sending Collin to private school.

As I previously posted, I think Collin's name was missing from the computer list because he was either being privately tutored at home at that time and had a different computer from his siblings (either his teacher's or his own special computer) OR he may have been sent away by then. I don't think Kate was being mean to Collin by denying him everyday use of the family computer to do his homework.

Rainbirdie said...

Kate absolutely does not like Collin. Anyone doubting that statement only has to watch her reaction to his gift vs the gifts from the other kids in the 'Kate Grifted a Trip to Mexico for her 40th' episode.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#186), yes, it's about time for some holiday deflection! Gifts! Lists! Wrapping paper! Doing it all alone!
Gladys asking if the new puppies have
their own stockings! Lather, rinse, repeat!

TLC stinks said...

That InTouch story had to have come from Jon's camp. I figured there would be dirt leaked. No holds barred on this custody case. TOTALLY BELIEVE she abused Collin and as a narcissist, of course, is projecting and is blaming Jon. If Jon is an abuser, then how come he gets to see the kids (those that have not been brainwashed or held captive) over the years? HE did not write about abusing Collin. SHE did. Except for Kate's allegations, there has never been one peep about him abusing any of those kids from any friend, co-worker, girlfriend, or family member. Entirely different story for Kate.

That zip tie info has come from Collin, one of the kids or that nanny that recently left. I could not have ever imagined such a thing, but is Kate capable? YES! I just envisioned beatings and isolation as her choice of abuse. That's bad enough, but using zip ties on your child takes a very sick mind. Very sick.

No wonder TLC has basically deserted her.

TLC stinks said...

Agree, Sad but True, if she does not sue, that says it all. I tend to believe InTouch because of Robert's contacts there. He really laid it out there early on about Collin.

NJGal51 said...

Why would she ever have had zip-ties in her home in the first place?
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I actually have a container of zip ties and they come in handy for quite a few things - securing Frosty's hat to his body on the outside decorations, making sure the deer antlers don't fall off and securing chicken wire to the gate so the rabbits don't get in the yard. I would never, in my wildest dreams, use them on a child.

Does anyone have a link to the story? I've googled it but can't find it.

Sad but true said...

Leslie, truly, I didn't reply about the computer time issue because I don't think she could have gotten away with denying him access completely. I think the reason his name wasn't on the schedule is because he doesn't live there anymore. I thought the more interesting part of your comment was the value you think Kate places on education. And that's what I replied to. Sorry if I offended in any way.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#4), and I've said this before: IF Jon had done anything truly terrible to the kids, TFW would be shouting it from the rooftops! If he hasn't seen C in 18 months or so, and their relationship ended because of something awful Jon did, do we believe for a second TFW would've kept her mouth shut this long? She certainly doesn't respect Jon's privacy (he doesn't exist to her), nor does she respect C's (sharing his personal struggle with the planet via People). She'd be hustling herself 24/7 for a book deal and a media tour.

CC said...

Deliverance,

My issue isn't your not believing it based on we don't know for sure or that you don't believe just anything you read in a tabloid. I understand that. And I agree we shouldn't just believe anything we read.

My issue was that you said it's "so horrific I tend to not believe them," like it's too horrific to believe Kate would do such a thing.

njay said...

Jon said C was home schooled. I think it's highly possible and could be highly profitable that he used it during the day when the others were at school. Hence no reason to even have his name on the time chart. No conflict no problem.

Vanessa said...

Kate absolutely does not like Collin. Anyone doubting that statement only has to watch her reaction to his gift vs the gifts from the other kids in the 'Kate Grifted a Trip to Mexico for her 40th' episode.
*****
Don't forget gumgate

Vanessa said...

Kate absolutely does not like Collin. Anyone doubting that statement only has to watch her reaction to his gift vs the gifts from the other kids in the 'Kate Grifted a Trip to Mexico for her 40th' episode.
*****
Don't forget gumgate

Sad but true said...

XXXXX 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 I am watching your season of the apprentice the first time. Was never much of a fan but you have become my fav. 😊!

Might I recommend a recent In Touch article and GosselinBook?

GollyGee said...

Just remember.

TFW never, ever said that the abuse in Robert's book was lies. Never. If you were innocent, you would be shouting it out on top of the rooftops!

If she does not sue InTouch for this, then,
there you go.

InTouch said that there is still an open investigation, despite what she has said lately.

I really feel like she is down for the count now.

Anonymous said...

After reading Robert's descriptions of how she restrained the children when they were toddlers, yes I can believe she would restrain an almost 12 year old by using zip ties. Not that I condone it, but restraining using zip ties pales in comparison to what she did to her victims as babies.

bm

TLC stinks said...

Yes, I have zip ties at home too but even the largest size I have would not be the size that could be used as handcuffs. She'd need a damn good reason to have such large zip ties the size needed to bound wrists if that is the size referred to in tabloid article. I am willing to bet this was what Collin confessed to his counselor and why she's under investigation by CPS. TFW is a monster. I know this kind of news is shocking, but I've heard similar stories from my daughter who worked with abused kids for years. It goes on with all incomes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Two questions==if they're faces were covered, how did she know they were women? And why would you approach someone whose faces were covered?

A lot of this story doesn't make sense.

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Well, she could tell by their body maybe. You can tell someone's gender sometimes by their body. Still, it's very hinky.

Sad but true said...

Thank to photoshopfun, In Touch story posted on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4HBNdUsAApfEF.jpg:large

Sad but true said...

(I'm hoping page 2 gets posted.)

Midnight Madness said...

That zip tie info has come from Collin, one of the kids or that nanny that recently left.

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Who was the nanny that recently left, and why? I really seem to be out of the loop here.

Sad but true said...

Oh you're just hilarious.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
LOL. #BusyMomsDilemma. #CouldOfWouldOfShouldOf 😞 @Kateplusmy8

Picture of sign on telephone pole (too stupid to type out).

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Midnight Madness (#20), someone tweeted TFW about Andrea helping with the scavenger hunt, and TFW said she was gone, and now she's "help-less." Yeah, right.

Vanessa said...

So allegedly it was the kids who told their dad she used restraints on Colin. You cannot make this $hit up. It happened, no doubt in my mind.

Anonymous said...

Re Milo's tweet - is that a zip tie on the right wrist?

bm

localyocul said...

Vanessa said... 23
So allegedly it was the kids who told their dad she used restraints on Colin. You cannot make this $hit up. It happened, no doubt in my mind.

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Was that in the article?

Sad but true said...

Page 2! Love the photo of Kate. Yeah, she's looking pretty demented.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4O9BTUoAAOsdH.jpg:large

Ingrid said...

Sad but true said... 19

(I'm hoping page 2 gets posted.)
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Here's page 2 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4O9BTUoAAOsdH.jpg

Anonymous said...

Midnight (20)

It was Andrea who recently left. I believe she moved back to Montana.

-ajw

Vanessa said...

Was that in the article
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Yes

Lynne In RI said...

I think that the recent developments, court hearings, scheduled trial, might just be more than Milo and the sub-ewes can handle, thus the deflection. Watch for more platitudes, puppy questions from Gladys, and comments from the oh-so-very-busy Kate about the hectic holidays.]

Have any of the fans asked if Collin will be coming home for Christmas, or if she and the kids have plans to visit him?

Sad but true said...

Midnight Madness said... 20

Andrea, who's been in some previous episodes. Kate called her the daughter of a "family friend." The only family friends she still seems to have live in Montana or Wyoming? I dunno.

Jane said...

Anonymous said... 28
Midnight (20)

It was Andrea who recently left. I believe she moved back to Montana.

-ajw
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How do you know Andrea moved to Montana? Was that written somewhere? I don't remember reading that.

Vanessa said...

It's the kids who are speaking nowith, finally.
Not a nanny, not a crew member, not a neighbor...not a "source "
It's the people living it. Now the REAL gaslighting is going to start. Wait for it

Anonymous said...

Jane,

I honestly don't remember where but I think it was on Ashley, her cousin's, Instagram. I do know she lived with Ashley but I don't think she lives with her anymore.

-ajw

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Lynne In RI (#31), I think the core fans (all 5 of 'em) are taking TFW's lead and not bringing C up. Then again, I don't think they're that interested in the kids anyway.

Anonymous said...

But based on what Kate stated, I guess she doesn't live in the area, let alone isn't helping her anymore so idk. Who knows what happened.

-ajw

Vanessa said...

And you know what? Screw the sheeple if they pull the "Jon must need a paycheck again" If Jon is the messenger, so be it. Fighting for what's right against that crazy bitch, the means justify the ends. He's dealing with a sociopath, expose her! Keep lifting the veil, no more sweeping under the rug.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I'm curious what the ratings will be this week.
If the 12th birthday of the tups -- whom America has watched growing up -- didn't even get a million viewers, what's the big draw of watching 8 (well, 7) kids and their obnoxious mother going to New Orleans for a one-and-done volunteering
session?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Lynne In RI (#31), I think the core fans (all 5 of 'em) are taking TFW's lead and not bringing C up. Then again, I don't think they're that interested in the kids anyway.

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This is all about Kate because of Collin. It doesn't matter how they feel about him, where he is, or that he was missing from the party. However, the tabs and the comments are making Kate out to be the monster Mom she is because of what she did to Collin. The sheep may ignore the kids and don't care about them, but the bottom line is their queen's treatment of her kids. That can't be swept under the rug. I think that no matter how many emergency damage control meetings they have in their barnyard, the custody issue just isn't going to go away.

Lanc Native said...

Harry T Nacious ‏@HarryTNacious 27m27 minutes ago
Harry T Nacious Retweeted Concerned Chick
Hey Pennsylvania, is this normal child discipline in your state? Using Zip Ties on a pre-teen boy? @Kateplusmy8 needs to go to jail for this

Oh, sure, we all do this. I get coupons for free ones in the mail all the time. Some are Dora, Sponge Bob, Frozen, Disney Princesses, Cars, Spiderman, Shopkins, Thomas, etc.

Dumb.

NOIP said...

Lancs.... 'Harry' was being facetious. We know Pennysylvania's laws on child abuse was amended 2014.

Sherri said...

From the InTouch page 2 article link posted above:

"Her accusations about Jon to their kids is one big reason, says the source, why they must go to trial."

It sounds like TFW isn't making accusations against Jon to just the police or the media, but also to the kids themselves.
The specifics of what we've known about the parental alienation TFW's engaged in for a long time finally going to come to light. I hope the judge takes the time and cares enough to talk to the kids individually and finally hears the truth of what she's done to the children and their father. The upcoming trial sounds like it's going to be ugly, but it's so long overdue.

Leslie said...

I will be very curious what Kate and her 7 or 8 does to help the "hurricane" victims in Baton Rouge and Denham Springs. First of all there was no hurricane. My favorite sister lives in Denham Springs in a beautiful, custom three-year old home. It was flooded at least 3 feet for three days. She was not in a flood district so she did not have any flood insurance because it was NOT required.
So she lost all her furniture and a lot of her clothes. All the bathroom cabinets, lower kitchen cabinets, 7 ft. island kitchen cabinet, and built-in cabinets in mud room had to be ripped out and redone. She had wood floors without her home and they all buckled. All of her doors in her house had to be removed and replaced. All the drywall ripped out, replaced and repainted. And on and on it goes. The govt. gave her $33,000 but that is about a third or half of what it is going to cost her and husband. And she lost her 9 month car. Her husband even jacked up her car before he left the home (he drove her to work that day in his truck because of the flooding) as it was flooding to no avail. My sister was working a nursing 12-hour nursing shift at a hospital and was not even home when it start to flood. She had Liberty Mutual Full Replacement Coverage and they gave her a newer model for her car. So she wasn't out anything as far as her vehicle.

But my sister was one of the lucky ones in the area. She and her husband (just retired) have a nice savings & retirement account to dig into to remodel. Ninety percent of all homes in Denham Springs flooded. And some homes in Baton Rouge flooded. But most people do not have savings accounts to dig in to to remodel. My heart really hurts for them. What do they do? Not only are they homes really damaged but many lost there cars also.

They certainly do not need Kate and her gang of kids and TV cameras playing around and gawking at people's homes who are ruined. Kate and her kids do not have any skills to remodel homes. But I am sure Kate found something to do so she can claim she helped out and "gave back". What a joke. In reality she probably did very little for a little time and then collected a huge check for it. She makes me sick. The victims of Denham Springs and Baton Rouge do NOT need her kind in their time of need.

swingsandroundabouts said...

Just the fact that TFW has been investigated multiple times for child abuse, per her own words, tends to lend credence to the story of the twist ties used on Collin. I totally understand an unwillingness to believe such a thing because it is so outrageous and unthinkable for most of us.

Collin has always been the scapegoat in that family and treated so much harsher than any of the other kids. From day one he was disliked by Kate and was the target of her anger and frustration. She actually prayed to be able to love him because she realized that she just could not.

She only clearly bonded with one of the tups, the one who was the golden child. IIRC, she actually admitted bonding with her because she was the first one released home from the NICU. After that she was too overwhelmed to connect closely with the others.

For whatever reason, I think that she is incapable of loving deeply as nearly all of her relationships have been so easily discarded.

My heart breaks for Collin, for the abuse he has suffered at her hands, for the fact that he never had a loving mother, for suffering all of her rejection, for being the target of her not inconsiderable anger and rage.

I am truly heartsick for him and hope for some sort of vindication and healing.





CC said...

JM,

Thank you for posting quotes from the InTouch article. I don't think we would have known about the zip ties if you didn't.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Leslie (#43), so sorry to hear what your sister went through.

You know, if I felt like TFW had a caring, compassionate bone in her body, I would say it's a lovely thing for her to give back, and to teach her children about service.
But we know TLC is in charge. As TFW said a few times during couch interviews with Jon, "It was decided that we (fill in the blank)..." Sure, she may have picked the location (perhaps based on spa availability), but she is not helping others out of the goodness of her heart. It's a logline for a TV episode, and nothing more.

If viewers are finally getting suspicious about her, something like this may receive some backlash. Airfare and hotel expenses for that big brood for what may have amounted to less than an hour of help? Even if she looks into the camera and says they stayed all day, I won't believe her.

TLC stinks said...

THANKS for posting the article! WOW!

TLC stinks said...

The wheels of Justice move slowly apparently in PA, so that judge better get moving on saving those kids from the harpie. What a scandal. Thank goodness some of the kids had enough sense to trust their dad and did the right thing. Makes me dislike Mady even more with her vitriol. Just like mom.

I knew when those kids got older Kate would start losing control. Finally, finally! I am so angry what she did to sweet Collin. Unbelievable that the judge has let that shrew use and abuse those kids FOR YEARS. And those stinkin' nannies keeping their mouths shut except for the one that went to the tabloids about Kate's spankings, but hey, it was in a TABLOID so why believe it...people should have.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 37
And you know what? Screw the sheeple if they pull the "Jon must need a paycheck again" If Jon is the messenger, so be it.
*****
Their hatred and hypocrisy knows no end.
This notion that Jon needs to pay his rent rests on Kate's shoulders. She's the one who decries "blood money" when anyone DARE to speak out against her.
Like Kevin and Jodi, whom she smeared for speaking out.
Funny, we haven't heard from them in years. They could have been selling stories for years.
Cripes, when her sister Kendra spoke to Radar (was it Radar?) ONCE about how painful it is to not have her sister, nieces and nephews in their lives anymore, the sheeple brutally attacked her.
Kate is the only one whose life was permanently torpedoed up several tax brackets for life.

Tucker's Mom said...


I knew when those kids got older Kate would start losing control
8*****
We predicted it here. We said one day, the kids would be older, wiser, bigger and stronger, and Kate would no doubt turn on them and cast them out if they stop going along with her program..

I have no problem believing the story about zip ties. Kate is also alleged to have locked children in their bedrooms, which is highly dangerous.
I also believe she hasn't seen Colin at all. I think she would mention seeing him, hugging him and kissing him, but she relates his condition in his facility in such nebulous and negative terms such as "plodding".
Plodding? Holy shit, I'd be beside myself if my child were in an inpatient facility and his progress was a shitty as that implies.
Yet, she speaks of him with such dead eyes and is void of all emotion.

Tucker's Mom said...

I do not understand Kate's hold on TLC.
A story about June Shannon alleges she was romantically linked to a pedophile who molested her daughter and she is DISAPPEARED from TLC, yet story after story after story comes out about horrific abuse, and a child, who is GOD knows where, and TLC thinks it a great idea to continue filming K+8.
Even when now a second male is banished.

Vanessa said...

It sounds like TFW isn't making accusations against Jon to just the police or the media, but also to the kids themselves
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Oh yeah, that's a given. People don't want to see or believe the worst in people, but in abusive families there are HUGE secrets. She is in her own world, and everyone else is to follow. She will use any means to make everyone else conform to her delusional life. She will make things up out of thin air to cause doubt and hatred towards their father.Cause doubt of how things really are. Cause confusion and guilt as far as what those kids real feelings are. You conform or else. She has isolated those kids so shes the only one who has their ear.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 48

I knew when those kids got older Kate would start losing control. Finally, finally! I am so angry what she did to sweet Collin.
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You know she's already worked out a story for the zip-ties, if in fact she even admits to doing this. It'll be something like, he went crazy and tried to attack his sister, so I had no choice but to do this. And you know at least her snotty henchwoman M (to whom she's no doubt promised the moon, stars, late-model convertible, and a shining boost into stardom) will have been brainwashed into backing up her story. Will any of the others go along? Who knows? If she starts telling them, If you don't say this, Mommy will go to jail, I'm pretty sure she might get at least one or two.

A little harder to explain will be why she initially sent him to a facility 7 hours away (pretty much guaranteeing that his family would never see him) and then brought him back to one just 2 hours away---that's about the money. And why she never brought any of Collin's supposed problems to the attention of his father, who I am certain would have been available to help but who would likely have also ensured that Plus 8 became Plus 7 a hell of a lot sooner than this. Thereby upsetting the TV apple cart.

The only big question I have is whether TLC will come to her rescue this time. I guess it'll come down to how much hard proof there is. We know there's no issue for them of either morality or good will.

Vanessa said...

Proof she will stop at nothing to take the microscope off of her. She will make up any wild accusation to try and take the heat off of her
-Jon's a drug dealer
-suspicious behavior towards Hannah
-he kidnapped Hannah
-Colin's issues stem from Jon's abuse

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#50), wasn't it also established that she locked the door from the outside when the kids played in the basement as toddlers? That way she could get things done around the house, and they could beat each other senseless and parent themselves without running upstairs every 5 minutes to annoy her. After that, it was time for lunch and a 4-hour nap, and then as soon as their dad walked in the door, they were his problem. America's Bestest Mom!

Vanessa said...

nd why she never brought any of Collin's supposed problems to the attention of his father, who I am certain would have been available to help but who would likely have also ensured that Plus 8 became Plus 7 a hell of a lot sooner than this.
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That's exactly why.

Vanessa said...

I also believe she hasn't seen Colin at all. I think she would mention seeing him, hugging him and kissing him, but she relates his condition in his facility in such nebulous and negative terms such as "plodding".
Plodding? Holy shit, I'd be beside myself if my child were in an inpatient facility and his progress was a shitty as that implies.
Yet, she speaks of him with such dead eyes and is void of all emotion.
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He's just a "thing" to her, remember. He's gone to get serviced. She'll blame the facility for not fixing him

Vanessa said...

Yet, she speaks of him with such dead eyes and is void of all emotion.
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Hell, Kendra Wilkinson showed more empathy, concern and emotion towards those kids than that bitch has ever shown in TEN years.

Formerly Duped said...

I hope family members are stepping in with these reports, true or not. Something is rotten....

Sad but true said...

New photo! A puppy one, of course. A benign tumor? What?! She isn't PERFECT??? But she's Shoka's daughter how could she NOT be perfect? Oh and then there's the money to shell out for pet surgery. I wonder how long Golden Girl's gonna last.

Yeah, you're a #CrazyLady, all right, but it's got nothing to do with your pets. Bitch.

kateplusmy8 When your little girl has surgery and she even makes her 'No bite' collar look cute! #Nanuq #BenignTumorRemoval #Spay #MommyWasAWorriedWreck #VetCalledMeCrazyDogLady #ItsTrue

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 55
Tucker's Mom (#50), wasn't it also established that she locked the door from the outside when the kids played in the basement as toddlers?
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Just the fact that she put 8 little kids in the basement with zero supervision bothered me.
They had no monitors and closed the door! She also never secured furniture and actually walloped the kids for pulling heavy things over instead of feeling guilty for having unmitigated hazards.
You don't punish kids for being kids. You protect them from harm because they don't know any better!

Sad but true said...

But wait, there's more!

kateplusmy8 She had a bump on her neck that wouldn't heal so it had to be removed so we spayed her at the same time! Her 'mane' is almost all shaved off and I'm so sad but glad she will be okay! I worried like crazy!

freakzilla09 I tell you they have our hearts just like our bare skin kiddos😂💜👍🏻😎

kateplusmy8 Like literally.... My puppies are at the vet as much as my kids were at this age lol! And she especially has been very 'high maintenance' from the beginning but it doesn't bother me a bit! They are my other kids! They give us back so much more than we could ever give them!:) #InLove @freakzilla09

Sad but true said...

barbgilmer1Well at least it's over & done with! Nanuq will be back to normal before you know it, you'll be saying to yourself like you did with the kids "that wasn't enough down time"! Lol ❤️❤️❤️

Well, with the kids, she just locked them in their rooms when she wanted down time. But if she did that with #NookiePookie, there might be an unfortunate accident. And you don't want to make Mommy mad, do you.

NJGal51 said...

Admin - When (if) this goes to trial, will the nannies be able to speak freely without fear of repercussions from CAs that may have been signed? I'd be interested to see what they've got to say about what went on because you know that they saw a lot. I wonder if any of them were fired for daring to say something to TFW. I'd also be interested to hear what Steve has to say under oath and if he'd lie to save himself. How about the daddy crew members? Could/would they be called? If so, maybe TLC does have a dog in the race. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out. I wonder if TLC is even taking TFW's phone calls as they circle their wagons to protect themselves

TLC stinks said...

If there is one thing I have learned, persistent rumors and/or stories usually have some basis in truth. It's years and years of piling on stories about her abuse and greed and now it's going to come out in court. Her accusations against Jon, I am afraid, are projections of what has been said and/or what has most likely been going in that household for years. How disgusting is Steve and anyone else who signed a C/A and witnessed such awful treatment but kept silent to line their pockets.

Tucker's Mom said...

kateplusmy8She had a bump on her neck that wouldn't heal so it had to be removed so we spayed her at the same time! Her 'mane' is almost all shaved off and I'm so sad but glad she will be okay! I worried like crazy! @mydmaxx2581 :(:(
*****
Where is this concern for Colin?

TLC stinks said...

Flimsy, she's been locking those kids in since they were babies: upstairs in their cribs for HOURS, at night in their bedrooms in the McMansion or locking them out if they leave an outside door open. That''s why I had no doubt in the validity of Collin being locked in a windowless basement bedroom.

Sad but true said...

NJGal51 said... 64
Admin - When (if) this goes to trial, will the nannies be able to speak freely without fear of repercussions from CAs that may have been signed? I'd be interested to see what they've got to say about what went on because you know that they saw a lot. I wonder if any of them were fired for daring to say something to TFW. I'd also be interested to hear what Steve has to say under oath and if he'd lie to save himself. How about the daddy crew members? Could/would they be called? If so, maybe TLC does have a dog in the race. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
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"Daddy" crew members are Figure 8's problem, not TLC's. TLC can disclaim knowledge of all of this, frankly, since they buy a prepackaged product from Figure 8. They help to dress it up in pretty shiny paper, but they are in theory at arm's length. I think that's why they haven't been sued by some of these people before.

Figure 8, having 10 years in with the Gosselins, may be the ones who have to show up in court. And since they have a vested interest in not being sued, I wonder how truthful they will be.

Turn out the lights... said...

From reading the latest InTouch article, it appears the libel accusations Kate has hurled at Jon are going to be addressed. GOOD
I bet she is scared shitless at this point...this custody battle is going to be UGLY, and he's got lots of tape of proving parental alienation (her latest quip ignoring anything he has to say, for example)
I hope the kids are able to speak to the authorities about what they've witnessed over the years.

My only question is, why did Jon years ago say (I think in a people article) that Kate was a good mother, when he KNEW how abusive she was? We've read her copyrighted journal.
Another thought...what will it take for her sheeple to FINALLY accept Kate abuses her kids? Will it be that the zip tie allegation is proven to be true? First hand accounts from the kids? How much and how long can her fans explain away her abusive behavior?
But again, why did Jon say she was a good mother??

GollyGee said...



They certainly do not need Kate and her gang of kids and TV cameras playing around and gawking at people's homes who are ruined. Kate and her kids do not have any skills to remodel homes. But I am sure Kate found something to do so she can claim she helped out and "gave back". What a joke. In reality she probably did very little for a little time and then collected a huge check for it. She makes me sick. The victims of Denham Springs and Baton Rouge do NOT need her kind in their time of need.

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I find it inconceivable that the Gosselin Gang Minus One would go to NOLA to help the "hurricane victims" years after the storm and go to a fancy, elite restaurant to learn ******* table manners.

She is mentally insane. I totally believe the zip ties.

I just wonder how they came into the house.

Maybe she ordered them under the name, Officer Karen Kauffman.

Sad but true said...

Turn out the lights... said... 69

But again, why did Jon say she was a good mother??
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In order to get the few crumbs she occasionally deigned to throw his way with respect to visitation? To continue to have some access to his children? As for the journal, which I believe he didn't actually read until Hoffman put it out there, once he did read it, he probably remembered those calls to him at work and thought, this is just Kate being her histrionic self. He was wrong, but having put up with that behavior for years himself, he probably didn't over-think it.

Jon's made a lot of mistakes. But I doubt he's ever been Kate-type abusive towards his kids, or anyone, for that matter.

GollyGee said...

Flimsy, yes. IIRC, she had the doorknob fixed where the kids could not open the door. She would go and open it when she wanted to open it.

Someone found the video of the door when the kids were knocking to get back into the house and when the door is opened, you can see it.

I remember this just a couple of years ago.

I have always said. The original, unedited DVD's are going to be expensive. Her screaming in gum gate is very watered down. Many meltdown scenes have been altered.

I even think the one about the drawer button and how shocking it was to see her react to such a trivial thing. Poor Collin. All he could do was dance to deal with the stress she dumped on him and his siblings.

And, a judge ordered her to stop locking the kids in their bedrooms at night and stop sending moldy food in their school lunches. This has been about over 2 years ago? So, if she recently locked Collin in the windowless room and especially at night, is she in contempt if ther were a judges order in place?

I hope they use zip ties on her when she is finally arrested for child abuse. Can't wait for the Perp Walk. The paps and press are going to have a field day.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So the vet called her Crazy Dog Lady? Too bad she'll never be accused of being a Crazy Kids Lady.

Gladys will be beside herself about Nookie Pookie's surgery. Prepare for a barrage of sappy posts and questions about the poor dog and her selfless owner. Blech.

And, TFW? A woman who's pushing 42, and has lauded herself as a bestselling author, should never use the expression
"like literally." Like ever.

Vanessa said...

But again, why did Jon say she was a good mother??
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Maybe he was still living in a fog. He maybe was rationalizing things. Was still an enabler, was ttying to see the good in this person who he loved, the mother of his children. Maybe still making excuses for her, not wanting to see the ugly truth?

Sad but true said...

Oh, now the story's really getting good. Can you see how this "episode" is playing out in her head? LMAO.

rachaelrandall2 Does this no bite collar replace the cone????? I hate the cone and this looks doable!!!

kateplusmy8 Yes! Got it on amazon! Our groomer friends recommended it! The 'cone' doesn't even fit through our doggy gates and she also had neck surgery so needed something soft... :) @rachaelrandall2

brittanyann717 I cried my eyes out taking my big boy to get spayed. And then cried when I picked him up and he was out of it and didn't know who I was. Awful. Hope she heals quickly ❤️

kateplusmy8 I went into the animal hospital for 2 days and joined her in her kennel! She was lying down and I was right next to her! I let her stay 2 nights to be sure she had peace and knew when she got home she'd want to 'run with the boys' so needed to delay that (I was right!) but I cried too and missed her SO much! Glad she's home!❤️ glad your boy is okay too!

Sad but true said...

Next season on Kate Plus 8 Minus One:

Kate, crazed with anxiety over her #NookiePookie's minor surgery, decides to spend two nights with her in a kennel at the animal hospital. With only dog food and water to sustain her! Meanwhile, back at the manse, kids rejoice, make pizza, eat with unwashed hands! And they're out of FOIL! What will Kate do? See You Next Tuesday, 10/9 central!

CC said...

Turn out the lights... said... 69

My only question is, why did Jon years ago say (I think in a people article) that Kate was a good mother, when he KNEW how abusive she was?
But again, why did Jon say she was a good mother??
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Sorry, I don't remember where I saw it but I think it was posted on this site also, that someone claimed Jon said that he was misquoted. He claimed he said Kate is NOT a good mom.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Aw, she cried about her sick doggie!

Didn't hear about tear one shed for C, or for his siblings who will miss him, did you?

Wowser said...

Ummm...sorry Kate...not buying it. You care more about your dogs than your kids. Didn't one of your kids fall out of their crib and split their head open while you and John were fighting in the garage. It was late and you had a cold and didn't want to be inconvenienced to take her to the hospital so the NEXT day your nurse friend put a butterfly on it and said it probably should have been stitched. You suck as a mother AND a pet owner. You will never be able to rewrite history or change your spots.
#savethegosselin8and dogs

NJGal51 said...

"Daddy" crew members are Figure 8's problem, not TLC's. TLC can disclaim knowledge of all of this, frankly, since they buy a prepackaged product from Figure 8.

Thanks for the clarification Sad but true. I'd forgotten about Figure 8 and that they weren't a part of TLC.
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kateplusmy8 When your little girl has surgery and she even makes her 'No bite' collar look cute! #Nanuq #BenignTumorRemoval #Spay #MommyWasAWorriedWreck #VetCalledMeCrazyDogLady #ItsTrue

I'm glad that she's taking care of the dogs but I wish she would show just a little bit of that concern for Collin. And this is why when I refer to her as TFW I mean "The Fuck Wad". We knew there would be puppy pictures coming to deflect, deflect, deflect.

Sad but true said...

You're a little late off the mark this morning, Doofus, but looks like you're sucking up well enough to be forgiven.

miloandjack2016 LOL. No surprise you going the EXTRA MILE to do all you can to comfort your #FurBabyNanuq. #JoiningHerInTheKennel!! She KNOWS who her mommy is and will reward you w/love & loyalty for many yrs!! @kateplusmy8. ❤

miloandjack2016 Haha...now you in the kennel by her side...now THAT would have been a picture!!! 😋 @kateplusmy8

Turn out the lights said...

He said she was a good mother right divorce (or somewhere in that mish mash).
Idk, its all so convoluted and messy!
I think i'd remember my spouse calling me and telling me to come home before they seriously hurt a child.
Maybe he thought she'd improve her parenting skills once the kids became more independent??

Wherever Colin is I hope he's improving and feeling better about himself. It's my opinion he will never live with Kate again. If it wasn't for the paycheck I don't think she'd care. Her journal stated several negative comments about Colin.
I wonder why parents of multiples bond with some and not others?
I didn't watch the episode of her scoffing at the mother and child gift (perhaps it was a bear?) but it's clear she has no maternal bond with Colin.

locaylyocul said...

Aww must be nice to have the money to "let her stay" an extra night. IOW she didn't want to be bothered with her

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#76), good one!

Did we not predict the deflection? You could set your watch by her. Now she has a "safe" topic to field questions about, and to receive praise for what a super-duper person she is.

I'll once again bring up poor C whacking his head while getting out of the plane, and his own mother essentially telling him he deserved it. Compare that Cruella DeVille
person to this, "like literally," tenderhearted dog lover she's trying to portray herself as. How dumb does she think we are?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Gladys, C also knows who HIS Mommy is. And that's a woman who has sent him away for 6 months and counting. Is he still expected to reward her with love and loyalty?

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 84
. . . Compare that Cruella DeVille
person to this, "like literally," tenderhearted dog lover she's trying to portray herself as. How dumb does she think we are?
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She hasn't gone wrong yet overestimating her audience's intelligence. But there's always a first time.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

In a "real" struggling family with a single mom without steady employment, an expense like TFW just incurred with Nookie Pookie would mean Christmas for 8 kids (I mean 7) would be scaled back, if not non existent. But TFW's whimsical recounting of spending the night in the kennel sure doesn't sound like it was any problem, does it?

Vanessa said...

Another layer and level of emotional abuse-the kids see her doting and all gaga, over the top syrupy gushing lovey dovey with the dogs and then there's how she treats them

Vanessa said...

miloandjack2016 Haha...now you in the kennel by her side...now THAT would have been a picture!!! 😋 @kateplu
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No picture? Didn't happen

I too would love to see her in a cage of some sort, sitting in dog excrement...

GollyGee said...

Flimsy, she thinks we are really dumb and especially the sheeple.

Because, she spews whatever lies she wants on tv, the tabs and is rarely held accountable for them.

This is what empowers and emboldens her.

Jamesvader1194 said...

You know,not that i want anything bad to happen to Milo's pets but how predictable that she now decides to tell people(aka Kate)that her dog has a growth problem now that Nanuq went to the vet and of course she has to tell Kate about it. miloandjack2016#WorrisomeBenignGrowths!!! 😧
For all dog lovers...aka @kateplusmy8. I feel your concern! #Jack has had this growth on his left paw for months now!
Keeping an eye on it...
So far it doesnt seem to be getting any larger & it doesnt hinder him in any way.
Our dogs get the best from us...
They are part of FAMILY! ❤

Vanessa said...

In a "real" struggling family with a single mom without steady employment, an expense like TFW just incurred with Nookie Pookie would mean Christmas for 8 kids (I mean 7) would be scaled back, if not non existent. But TFW's whimsical recounting of spending the night in the kennel sure doesn't sound like it was any problem, does it?
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She's a walking talking contradiction. She says something or tris to make a point, only to say the opposite in the same sentence.

PA Dutch Mom said...

From reading the latest InTouch article, it appears the libel accusations Kate has hurled at Jon are going to be addressed. GOOD
I bet she is scared shitless at this point...

I don' think she gets scared, shitless or otherwise. She thinks she above the law and can just ignore orders because of her celebrity status.

"Lancs.... 'Harry' was being facetious. We know Pennysylvania's laws on child abuse was amended 2014."

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I imagine that the state offices still gets calls on the Gosselin kids' filming, and if laws are followed. The department that handles this is the DOL. In addition, Rep Murt has always been available to answer any questions about permits, enforcing the laws, etc. If there are any concerns, that's where they should be directed. No other department but the DOL (and Rep Murt) addresses these issues, or forwards questions.

Tucker's Mom said...

My only question is, why did Jon years ago say (I think in a people article) that Kate was a good mother, when he KNEW how abusive she was? We've read her copyrighted journal.
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The gloves weren't off and Jon was probably trying to pacify Kate, knowing her temper and penchant for revenge.
I think even Jon didn't realize what she was capable of. I mean, what father expects his ex-wife to attempt to destroy him and his relationship with his children?
That's some batshit-crazy, carpet-bombing stuff!

Vanessa said...

@Wowser, had forgotten about that in her journal. This is the type of person/mother she is. It's all about her comfort, what's convenient for her. Its.All. About. HER

When Cara hurt her arm or leg? The not a nanny took her to the Dr. And this is how "unaware " she is - she could have made the visit to the ER an episode in terms realist reality show out there. ..guess not ebough time for permits and CAs?

Tucker's Mom said...

Another thought...what will it take for her sheeple to FINALLY accept Kate abuses her kids?
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I think it will be when the kids themselves speak out, and Kate loses her iron-fisted control of the narrative.
I mean, 16-year olds without social media?
That's some desperation right there.
(I'm sure they have them on the down low!)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Victims of parental alienators often run through a variety of different strategies to try to figure out how to deal with them. One way to deal is to kill 'em with kindness. Flatter them, let them know what aspects of them or their parenting you really respect or appreciate, let them know you're not totally against them.

It may actually work if the alienation is not that bad. But with her this far gone it probably only served to anger her more. She'll find a reason it angers her.

Tucker's Mom said...

elite restaurant to learn ******* table manners.
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It was just a year prior that these kids were spitting food out of their mouths in a restaurant! Someone needs to teach them proper etiquette.
I'm sure Jon lets them sit down and eat family style, and not treat them like dogs getting food slopped into their bowls.

Sad but true said...

Vanessa said... 94

When Cara hurt her arm or leg? The not a nanny took her to the Dr. And this is how "unaware " she is - she could have made the visit to the ER an episode in terms realist reality show out there. ..guess not ebough time for permits and CAs?
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And she might have been expected to act all "nursy" or something. Right when she was in the middle of changing her image! And what if someone at the hospital KNEW her? No no no, can't have that. There are only certain things allowed in the realest reality, and "nurse" ain't one of 'em.

Now, had Cara hurt her leg whilst K8 was frolicking in her rockin' bikini on a beach, then yes, by all means, call those handsome paramedics!

Tucker's Mom said...


I have always said. The original, unedited DVD's are going to be expensive. Her screaming in gum gate is very watered down. Many meltdown scenes have been altered.
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Most of the episodes were white washed, if not meant to spin her image.
Kate made them edit out brushing one of the girls hair because it looked rough, and she didn't want to blow back.

Tucker's Mom said...

I hope they use zip ties on her when she is finally arrested for child abuse. Can't wait for the Perp Walk. The paps and press are going to have a field day.
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Oh, please. Steve will be there, rat-clawing anyone who tried to take photos! Then, he'd try to delete the photos!
Of course, only if there aren't cameras rolling so as to not record his illegal intimidation and assaults.

Sad but true said...

As seen on IG.

megk00 How's Collin doing? Is he coming home to spend with you guys for Christmas? @kateplusmy8

alex_wright_ #chillonthehashtags

Tucker's Mom said...

kateplusmy8 I went into the animal hospital for 2 days and joined her in her kennel! She was lying down and I was right next to her! I let her stay 2 nights to be sure she had peace and knew when she got home she'd want to 'run with the boys' so needed to delay that (I was right!) but I cried too and missed her SO much! Glad she's home!❤️ glad your boy is okay too!
*****
She's just flipping nuts. I'm betting that Kate hasn't seen Colin since he was sent away. Betting on it.
Yet, she's absolutely maudlin about routine spaying of her dog and visits in her kennel.
She's a head case.

Sad but true said...

Doesn't Milo realize that it looks like she's trying to one-up K8? Her newest IG post:

miloandjack2016 #WorrisomeBenignGrowths!!! 😧
For all dog lovers...aka @kateplusmy8. I feel your concern! #Jack has had this growth on his left paw for months now!
Keeping an eye on it...
So far it doesnt seem to be getting any larger & it doesnt hinder him in any way.
Our dogs get the best from us...
They are part of FAMILY! ❤

Tucker's Mom said...


Sorry, I don't remember where I saw it but I think it was posted on this site also, that someone claimed Jon said that he was misquoted. He claimed he said Kate is NOT a good mom.
December 5, 2016 at 8:04 AM
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"Yes, she is a good mother" was Jon's response to Larry King.

Tucker's Mom said...

Didn't hear about tear one shed for C, or for his siblings who will miss him, did you?
*****
She didn't even attempt to fake it. She was like, pfffft, sent Colin away. We all miss him. Yada yada.
Next!

just wondering said...

Did Kate say she stayed at the clinic? Vet clinics usually close around 6pm & lock the doors. Sorry, Kate. They have nobody in the building after closing hours. There is no staff on duty.

Now, an emergency vet clinic is staffed by rotating vets & is open during the evening & all night. But no dog is sent to an ER vet just for being spayed and having a basal cell skin tumor excised. Sorry, Kate. These tumors are removed with a mere local & the dog is good to go right away.
Kate is such a pathological liar & it's so easy to disprove her.

GollyGee said...

Tucker's Mom said... 106
Didn't hear about tear one shed for C, or for his siblings who will miss him, did you?
*****
She didn't even attempt to fake it. She was like, pfffft, sent Colin away. We all miss him. Yada yada.
Next!

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NEXT!!!

I can see TFW hitting the counter gritting her teeth (paid veneers) like Elaine did in the Soup Nazi.

NEXT!!

Vanessa said...

Now, had Cara hurt her leg whilst K8 was frolicking in her rockin' bikini on a beach, then yes, by all means, call those handsome paramedics!
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That happened right? Or was it some stranger she was trying to attend to while cameras were rolling? Didn't they tell her to bugger off? And didn't she tweet that she just went into nurse mode? haha-she's pathetic

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 105

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"Yes, she is a good mother" was Jon's response to Larry King.
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So this would have been either pre-divorce or very likely shortly thereafter. King's been off the air a long time.

Sad but true said...

just wondering said... 107
. . . These tumors are removed with a mere local & the dog is good to go right away.
Kate is such a pathological liar & it's so easy to disprove her.
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If only K8 could be removed with a mere local. :)

Tucker's Mom said...

locaylyocul said... 83
Aww must be nice to have the money to "let her stay" an extra night. IOW she didn't want to be bothered with her
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A bit excessive and a tad worrisome that she can't trust 12-year old to follow precautions and keep the dog safe.

TLC stinks said...

OMG. Such a liar about the vet. There was no need to keep the dog overnight for either procedure. Better do that psych eval pronto. LOL. She claims to have been by the dog's side for TWO days...who was with the kids?? More evidence for Jon.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 88
Another layer and level of emotional abuse-the kids see her doting and all gaga, over the top syrupy gushing lovey dovey with the dogs and then there's how she treats them
December 5, 2016 at 8:33 AM
*****
One day, Colin is going to watch and read all about how his mother was out of her mind and emotional with her dogs, while she never came to visit him.
All the while, his brothers and sisters are getting the joy of having puppies and his mother is showering the shiny new balls with the love he never got.

Vanessa said...

kateplusmy8 I went into the animal hospital for 2 days and joined her in her kennel! She was lying down and I was right next to her! I let her stay 2 nights to be sure she had peace and knew when she got home she'd want to 'run with the boys' so needed to delay that (I was right!) but I cried too and missed her SO much! Glad she's home!❤️ glad your boy is okay too!
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See how she misleads? She didn't say she spent the night, but to some, it comes across as her saying that.
"I went into the hospital for 2 days"
She probably went TO the hospital IN 2 days. First to check if the dog could go home, then left her there and went back the 2nd day to pick him up.

Vanessa said...

http://thenarcissisticlife.com/why-do-narcissists-lie/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She never said she spent the night with the dog, though she did mislead, and I've never heard of a vet who will let you spend the night.

Tucker's Mom said...

I too would love to see her in a cage of some sort, sitting in dog excrement...
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The thing is, it's a nice notion to want to visit your dog in the hospital, but the dog and staff don't need it. It's better to allow the dog to rest and not get excited, but then again, Kate only thinks about her needs, not anyone else's. If it makes Kate feel good, to hell with it.

NJGal51 said...

Oh, please. Steve will be there, rat-clawing anyone who tried to take photos! Then, he'd try to delete the photos! Of course, only if there aren't cameras rolling so as to not record his illegal intimidation and assaults.

I have to wonder if Steve has gone into CYA mode yet. You know that he saw and maybe even took part in the discipline (read that as abuse) of the kids.
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Did Kate say she stayed at the clinic? Vet clinics usually close around 6pm & lock the doors. Sorry, Kate. They have nobody in the building after closing hours. There is no staff on duty.

I think that she was implying that she visited both days and crawled into the wire cage to be next to her "beloved" fur baby. I'm sure the back office staff loved that.

TLC stinks said...

kateplusmy8I went into the animal hospital for 2 days and joined her in her kennel! She was lying down and I was right next to her! I let her stay 2 nights to be sure she had peace and knew when she got home she'd want to 'run with the boys' so needed to delay that (I was right!) but I cried too and missed her SO much! Glad she's home!

Tucker's Mom said...

alex_wright_ #chillonthehashtags
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#learnhowtousehashtagsproperlytheyarenotusedforemphasisdummy

Turn out the lights said...

The reason I think Kare's scared of this new custody battle is because Colin was removed from the home (against Kate's wishes). I think it was reported that the latest child abuse investigation is due to COLIN confiding to specialists.
Kate may be able to back the bus over Jon, but she can't back the bus over Colin and those he told.
She's in a shitload of trouble and no longer controls the narrative. I doubt TLC is going to support her in this court battle.
She's toast-- brought down by an icky boy.

Tucker's Mom said...

We have a nearby animal hospital that's also a regular clinic.
I'm pretty sure our bichon had outpatient neutering. Our lab was spayed when she was rescued.
I have to say, I'm very glad Kate spayed the female. Now she needs to be a responsible dog owner and neuter her males.
Funny how she did that to Jon on a daily basis, but can't bear the thought of it when it comes to her dogs

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She is in trouble, or could be. Once you start getting social workers against you, the tides can really change. Fathers who have never had custody or haven't for years can suddenly in the blink of an eye find themselves caring full time for their kids. We'll see what happens.

What's kind of funny about her keeping the kids from Jon is she can hardly accuse him of abuse. He's barely with the kids to have the opportunity.

just wondering said...

I have to wonder what will happen to the dogs once this distraction has been maxed.

She is only able to pay attention to things, people, or animals if they are of use to her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate didn't say that she spent the night. She probably drove the staff nutty with her silliness.
I get being worried, but you don't make a nuisance of yourself with the busy people trying to do their jobs!
I wonder if Kate will ever address if she visits Colin on a regular basis. I think she's not talking because she hasn't seen him, or can't see him.
Not one word about worrying and fretting about a son who's been away for months.

Sad but true said...

Vanessa said... 109

That happened right? Or was it some stranger she was trying to attend to while cameras were rolling? Didn't they tell her to bugger off? And didn't she tweet that she just went into nurse mode? haha-she's pathetic
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Yes it did. Since I don't watch these episodes, I can't say for sure where. It might have been at the gaga-ball place, or one of those other "____ Zone" businesses were games are played, walls climbed, and cushion-tipped arrows shot. It was definitely in a post-10th b'day episode, that's all I know. And yes, the kid (not hers) broke his leg, and his friends waved her and the film crew off. No footage of that incident appeared in the episode.

CC said...

Tucker's Mom

Yeah I think I remember that. I think that was early on. I was referring to a written interview that Jon claimed he said she's not a good mom and was misquoted. ???

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kate didn't say that she spent the night. She probably drove the staff nutty with her silliness.
I get being worried, but you don't make a nuisance of yourself with the busy people trying to do their jobs!


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I get wanting to be a helicopter fur baby mommy. But yes, have some self awareness you are not the only dog mommy to come through their doors and that everyone else around you is worried about their fur babies some of whom have much worse issues. Don't be a pest. She is not a "better" dog mommy because she makes a nuisance of herself at the vet. I believe that you love and care for your dog simply by making sure they are getting good medical care. You don't have to crawl into their cage and hold them to prove it to me.

Tucker's Mom said...

What's kind of funny about her keeping the kids from Jon is she can hardly accuse him of abuse. He's barely with the kids to have the opportunity.
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Kate will blame Jon for anything she deems negative. The funny thing is, on the one hand, she's said time and again that Jon should have no say in how she raised HER children, and on the other hand, she will bash his parenting.
And praise her daughter when she says nasty things about her father.

Vanessa said...

If she did crawl into the kennel, are we back to her Daisy Dukes/red velvet Mary Jane's mental state?

There's a promo for this season and they're at some bug exhibitad she's screeching like a banshee. Just like at the beach where the turtles were hatching

Tucker's Mom said...

I wish that someone would hold TLC's feet to the flames over these allegations about Kate. Shoot, June got shit canned over allegations that she vehemently denies, yet TLC remains silent when their talent is accused of committing heinous acts of child abuse.
This zip tie allegation needs to be addressed and FAST. I find it reprehensible for TLC to continue airing K+8 when these horrific allegations are out there, not being refuted.
At this point in time, it's safe to assume that these new allegations are coming from the children themselves.

Vanessa said...


Tucker's Mom said... 132

I wish that someone would hold TLC's feet to the flames over these allegations about Kate. Shoot, June got shit canned over allegations that she vehemently denies, yet TLC remains silent when their talent is accused of committing heinous acts of child abuse.
This zip tie allegation needs to be addressed and FAST. I find it reprehensible for TLC to continue airing K+8 when these horrific allegations are out there, not being refuted.
At this point in time, it's safe to assume that these new allegations are coming from the children themselves.
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I believe it boils down to June being cwt and tfw is the blond botoxed anorexic "illusion" of a good mother

just wondering said...

One day, Colin is going to watch and read all about how his mother was out of her mind and emotional with her dogs, while she never came to visit him.........

Perhaps Collin will one day realize that his mother is mentally ill & that he did the best he could with that woman. Just knowing that she was never wired right should help.
None of this was his fault & hopefully his therapist has been spending quality time explaining this to him.

TLC stinks said...

I guess the male puppy is banished outside like Shoka. No luvin' for him.

TLC stinks said...

“TLC and Kate agreed that they needed to keep the marriage intact to make the show go on and offered Jon $2 million to sign a contract to stay married for two more years,” says the source.

http://www.celebitchy.com/502021/in_touch_kate_gosselin_told_jon_they_could_have_an_open_marriage_she_lied/

TLC stinks said...

If Jon were abusing Collin BEFORE the divorce, wouldn't she have brought that up back then? He cost her a cool $2 million contract from TLC to have a pretend marriage, yet although she and TLC lawyers tore him apart, there were no accusations of abuse.

TLC stinks said...

By being a helicopter fur baby mommy, she wants her five fans to be convinced she treats her kids the same. They always buy into her nonsense. Deflect, deflect, deflect. If she treats her dog like a baby, therefore how could anyone believe she abuses human children.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#127), I didn't watch the episode either, but read about it here. TFW went into nurse mode, and when someone called her on it -- saying she only did because they were filming -- she responded with this hilarious lie: "Forget cameras often!"

Wowser said...

Kate has had such control over the narrative of her life that more than likely when Collin got sent away, she was in all "agree-ance" with it because she thought it would make her look like a caring mother who was putting her own sad heart aside to give her son what he needed...you know, so sacrificing. In her head, all she thought was GREAT, I don't need to worry about what Collin may do acting out while they are filming, he's out of my hair (and not physically acting out and attacking me) and now "i" don't have to be so stressed. I bet it NEVER crossed her mind that her son might speak about things that were being done to him by her. She's had them living in fear for so long, she took it for granted they would always remain silent. Just my opinion.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Tucker's Mom IF and this is a big IF for some reason TLC helps her out with this recent court battle and if the ratings still plummet but for some reason TLC doesn't care and decides to keep Kate.I'd be 100% convince she has something on TLC that would hurt them or she'd be in bed with someone in there.There would be 0 excuse as to why TLC continues this show after everything.

Tucker's Mom said...

What's kind of funny about her keeping the kids from Jon is she can hardly accuse him of abuse. He's barely with the kids to have the opportunity.
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Oh yes she can! She accused jon of kidnapping and having a suspicious relationship with one of his daughters.

jamezvader1194 said...

Sad but true (104) I felt milo posted that just to be like Kate since she claims the dog had it for months and now that Kate's dog was in the vet she pretty much saying."See kate,my dog has a problem to,don't you see how much we have in common?"

Tucker's Mom said...

There's a promo for this season and they're at some bug exhibitad she's screeching like a banshee. Just like at the beach where the turtles were hatching
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I saw that. She's a 12-year old.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I can just see TFW waiting until the weekend to have these procedures done. This way she could be out of the house and away from the kids. She's just not that into them.

Sad but true (#102), I'm surprised Gladys didn't answer the C question on TFW's behalf. Company line: everyone misses C, but it's for the best that he's away (where he's apparently quite busy plodding and plugging and chugging along).

Ingrid said...

There's a promo for this season and they're at some bug exhibit she's screeching like a banshee
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She is always shrieking about something. She does it to get the attention away from the kids. Otherwise there would be NOTHING on the film about Kate that is worth it. She would be on the cutting room floor and the kids could get their own larger cut of the pay from TLC. I would much rather see whole shows with just the kids and never see her attention hogging ugly mug.

Tucker's Mom said...

Perhaps Collin will one day realize that his mother is mentally ill & that he did the best he could with that woman. Just knowing that she was never wired right should help.
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I hope they call can find peace knowing they weren't crazy or undeserving of heaps of loving.

Tucker's Mom said...

jamezvader1194 said... 141
@Tucker's Mom IF and this is a big IF for some reason TLC helps her out with this recent court battle and if the ratings still plummet but for some reason TLC doesn't care and decides to keep Kate.I'd be 100% convince she has something on TLC that would hurt them or she'd be in bed with someone in there.There would be 0 excuse as to why TLC continues this show after everything.
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Wasn't Duck Dynasty yanked immediately for one of the cast's anti-gay preaching? That show was wildly successful and the utterance of homophobia got it pulled for a period of time.
That had to have hurt the network.
Yet's here's Kate, investigated time after time for child abuse, no refuting horrible allegations of mistreatment, no denying acting like a lunatic when her daughter wanted to stay with Jon, and TLC says nothing.
The PR is horrific. No one at TLC cares? Their brand gets sullied on a weekly basis because of Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

(where he's apparently quite busy plodding and plugging and chugging along).
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If that was the result my child was getting after months of being away, I'd yank him out so fast their heads would spin. It's like she doesn't care that 6 months in, he's still doing poorly.
It makes me think Kate has no control over Colin's placement.

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 139
Sad but true (#127), I didn't watch the episode either, but read about it here. TFW went into nurse mode, and when someone called her on it -- saying she only did because they were filming -- she responded with this hilarious lie: "Forget cameras often!"
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Oh yes, how could I forget THAT whopper! If she wasn't a pathological liar, I'd call that the lie of the century, but under the circumstances. . . .

Sad but true said...

On the TLC K8 FB page, posted a little vignette from the twins' antique shopping last season (that "season" was 13 episodes long, BTW). Here's one comment (out of only a handful):

XXXXX Back in the days they sent kids to live in group homes. No one batted an eye. Now they pile on. Why doesn't Jon get a job and a bigger place so the kids can visit more. On the 1st show she asked who was going to Jon's. 4 stayed 4 went. Collin said he wasn't going. Enough said

What did we say here? The very FIRST time she's "caught" on camera mentioning Jon and visitation, and she has this poor fool convinced that the reason Jon doesn't see his other kids is he doesn't have a big enough house. All it took was that ONE 60-second scripted scene to show this fan that it's all Jon's fault he doesn't see his kids. And was Collin really there and said out loud he wasn't going? I didn't watch, so I don't know.

Jon has BOTH a home and a place where his kids can visit him. And at least four of them do and seem quite comfortable there. And he also has an absolute psycho-bitch of an ex-wife who will do "like, literally" ANYTHING to keep her 15 minutes of famewhoring going, including defaming, abusing, shunning, drugging, zip-tying, and banishing any member of her own family who doesn't get with her program.

There's a reason we call TV the opiate of the masses.

Turn out the lights said...

Let Kate have her own show. She can shriek and screech the entire 30 minutes. These kids are not an experiment or entertainment fodder.
I wonder what TLC's legal dept has said about Colin not being a 'contract honorer' ? In seasons past the entire family was required to film, illness be damned!
I would think TLC legal dept is in the process of cutting the G's loose due to the negative effect filming has had on the kids.
If TLC does cut them loose, the custody hearing goes Jon's way, Kate can blame the show stopping on Jon(deflects away from her abusive behaviors)
Isn't everything Jon's fault anyway??

just wondering said...

She's had them living in fear for so long, she took it for granted they would always remain silent...................

Narcs are good at that. And it's so insidious. It's little things that they twist & regurgitate to the point that you nearly think you are the crazy one!

She has isolated those kids for so long that their own brain chemistry has been warped.
'If they don't film they will lose the house. If they don't film they can't go to college. If they don't film they won't be able to have cars. Everything will be terrible if they don't film, & it would be all their fault.'
She tells them that she is doing all of this for them & they should be so grateful to her for being such a good mom.
That they should always keep family stuff private & to only speak to her about a problem because otherwise they might be taken away. And look what happened! Collin spoke up & just like Mommy has always said, he was taken away!
Been there.. Heard that.. Have the decades of therapy to prove it..
Kate uses circular logic to brainwash the kids. She's a classic dysfunctional narcissist who has choked the spirit out of her children. But, hey look over here! We have puppies! Like a magician.
But we see you, Kate. I see right through you because you are just smoke & mirrors. You have no substance & no soul.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

To those who asked, yes I'm working on the recaps! I'm on a mini-vacation so I think I might be able to get some of it done. It really is like wading through sludge though, it's painful. Especially having to explain all the stuff with Collin, it's sad. Those boys are awesome though, what cool kids.

TLC stinks said...

LOL. I saw the promo too! Screaming and running away. In the background are some visitors just staring at this loud woman. Such a role model for her kids. Even if it was played up, I think she's normally that way with her big mouth.

Anonymous said...

Sad but true (151)

No, Collin was not in the car at the time when Kate asked who was going to Jon's. Kate later states after she drops the 7 kids at the bus stop, she rushes back home to get Collin ready for school. So idk what that person is talking about..

-ajw

TLC stinks said...

I agree with Admin that Collin was taken from the home because if were her, I'd be terrified of not controlling what he says. That's exactly what happened.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Remember the local 4th of July parade, when TFW had the kids walking while holding rings? She made such a spectacle of herself with the camera crew in tow, and then was annoyed that people were looking. Well, bubbelah, you may get your wish soon. A decision or two by the right people could have you banished from the airwaves, and then you'll just be a "Remember Them?" footnote in TV history (see: Boo Boo, Honey). And you can live out the rest of your life in the blissful privacy you pretend you wish you had. Maybe you should start looking at the island you were talking about going to. Less airfare now that you only have 7 kids!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She's had them living in fear for so long, she took it for granted they would always remain silent

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PA Dutch Mom said...

Even if it was played up, I think she's normally that way with her big mouth.

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She's normally that way with her big mouth!

PA Dutch Mom said...

She never said she spent the night with the dog, though she did mislead, and I've never heard of a vet who will let you spend the night.

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Mine would if I asked him, but then again, I've known him for, literally, decades. I've never requested an over-night stay for me. He has seen me through the lives of many pets and shared many a grief with me when I lost them. We've cried together.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mine would if I asked him, but then again, I've known him for, literally, decades. I've never requested an over-night stay for me. He has seen me through the lives of many pets and shared many a grief with me when I lost them. We've cried together.
December 5, 2016 at 2:46 PM
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The pain is exrcuciating ;-(
I just wonder what Kate will do once kids start leaving the house and she still has dogs.
I also still think she threatens that the animal chores will not be done if the kids go to Jon's.

GollyGee said...

PA Dutch mom said...170

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Has TFW shut down any stores in your area just to shop alone or with her kids? I remember was it Gap or Old Navy she wanted every customer to leave so her and the couple of kids could shop?

The manager told her no.

Who does this? Nobody. Except her.

Saw a video of young woman in church singing Amazing Grace with a young man playing the guitar and it was to the tune of "The House of the Rising Sun". It was incredible.

The House of the Rising Sun. Sounds like Collins freedom to be with his Dad. That poor kid finally got out of the fire and brimstone of his mother, rose up from the ashes and finally got the courage to tell what was really going on.

It backfired on her big time. She did everything in her power to do him in. But in the end, the few things he has said what she did to him and treated him, has so much power that a trial is scheduled, his dad has a very good chance of getting joint custody and he may get permanently placed with his dad.

I believe if Collin does get placed with his dad, she will never want to see him again or even allow him to come to the house.

No wonder Robert dedicated the book to Collin. Surely, we will hear from Robert soon, especially when the trial starts.

Sad but true said...

Another classic comment from the K8 FB page.

XXXXX I'm pretty sure his doctors know what's best for Colin. An alcoholic doesn't get to go home for his bday if he's somewhere getting help!! Good luck Kate! So far you've done a great job. They're all so loving unlike mine! 😬

What show is SHE watching?

Tucker's Mom said...

I believe if Collin does get placed with his dad, she will never want to see him again or even allow him to come to the house.

No wonder Robert dedicated the book to Collin. Surely, we will hear from Robert soon, especially when the trial starts.
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I hope Robert and his family are doing well. It's been awhile.

GollyGee said...

If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

A loving parent of children and a pet owner who loves their pets would never threaten to their children if you don't do the animal chores, you can't go to your dad's this weekend.

They would do them themselves and let the kids be with their father. That is what a loving parent would do.

Tucker's Mom said...

Of course we don't know what happens when the kids aren't home to do their chores, but given that the chickens are history, I have a feeling I'm right.

Over And Out said...

If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

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Why would they get involved? They don't care who is taking care of animals, as long as they are being cared for, whether it's Kate, a nanny, or the Amish farmer.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


XXXXX I'm pretty sure his doctors know what's best for Colin. An alcoholic doesn't get to go home for his bday if he's somewhere getting help!! Good luck Kate! So far you've done a great job. They're all so loving unlike mine! 😬

What show is SHE watching?



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Ha. What!

Tucker's Mom said...

XXXXX I'm pretty sure his doctors know what's best for Colin. An alcoholic doesn't get to go home for his bday if he's somewhere getting help!! Good luck Kate! So far you've done a great job. They're all so loving unlike mine! 😬
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unlike mine? Have you watched the show? The nastiness and fighting?
The boys seem lovely, but the girls, omg.

GollyGee said...

Sad but true said... 164
Another classic comment from the K8 FB page.

XXXXX I'm pretty sure his doctors know what's best for Colin. An alcoholic doesn't get to go home for his bday if he's somewhere getting help!! Good luck Kate! So far you've done a great job. They're all so loving unlike mine! 😬

What show is SHE watching?

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Well, Kate did say that Collin was chugging along.

GollyGee said...

Over And Out said... 168
If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

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Why would they get involved? They don't care who is taking care of animals, as long as they are being cared for, whether it's Kate, a nanny, or the Amish farmer.

(((Over And Out said... 168
If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

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Why would they get involved? They don't care who is taking care of animals, as long as they are being cared for, whether it's Kate, a nanny, or the Amish farmer.Over And Out said... 168
If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

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Why would they get involved? They don't care who is taking care of animals, as long as they are being cared for, whether it's Kate, a nanny, or the Amish farmer.Over And Out said... 168
If TFW threatens the kids that if the animal chores are not done and that will prevent them from seeing their dad, if the kids tell the judge this at the trial, do you think that it will get Animal Control involved?

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Why would they get involved? They don't care who is taking care of animals, as long as they are being cared for, whether it's Kate, a nanny, or the Amish farmer.

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If the animal chores where not done and the kids went to Jons, she would not take care of them.

GollyGee said...

She refused to take care of Shoka and Nala when the kids were smaller and Jon would come and see how messy their cages were and not fed.

Nala got to the breaking point and started snarling at TFW and she got scared and was afraid she was going to attack her and she sent them back to the breeder.

Shoka was allowed back for an episode but not Nala. I hope she got a wonderful home.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

If the animal chores where not done and the kids went to Jons, she would not take care of them.

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I think you're getting way ahead of yourself here. We don't know who would take care of them, if she would hire someone to make sure they were fed and looked after. It's really jumping the gun to assume that anyone from an animal organization would get involved. We don't even know if the kids would live with Jon, all of the time, part of the time, or whatever.

Do they still have the chickens? Is Zorro still among the living?

jamezvader1194 said...

Actually,to the person who said some of the fans are being silent about this.I think the reason someone like goody is being quiet is because she said a month ago that Jon SHOULD go to court instead of to the tabloids about custody.So she can't say that Jon is doing it for attention otherwise she'd contradict herself. MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 Nov 17
Fuck Jon Gosselin! He should go to court because whining to the tabloids gets him nothing. @kateplusmy8

NJGal51 said...

LOL GolleeGee - You gave me a good chuckle with your House oh the Rising Sun comment because the original folk song is thought to be about either a brothel or a women's prison in New Orleans. Here's some info about the two theories from the Internet.
1) The song is about a brothel in New Orleans. "The House Of The Rising Sun" was named after Madame Marianne LeSoleil Levant (which means "Rising Sun" in French) and was open for business from 1862 (occupation by Union troops) until 1874, when it was closed due to complaints by neighbors. It was located at 826-830 St. Louis St.

2) It's about a women's prison in New Orleans called the Orleans Parish women's prison, which had an entrance gate adorned with rising sun artwork. This would explain the "ball and chain" lyrics in the song.

My friend (from New Orleans) swears it's about the brothel.

NJGal51 said...

There are some reality TV stars on Chopped tonight and TFW ain't one of them.

Sad but true said...

Rainbowsandunicorns said... 174

Do they still have the chickens?
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She confirmed during last week's tweet party that there are no longer chickens on her property.

Wowser said...

An excerpt from TFW's diary of horrors: (the signs of Collins struggles were there from day 1. Her need to get him to "conform to the mold of unreasonable expectation" for filming purposes was unfortunately his fate in never getting proper treatment, diagnosis or even a mother who gave a damn about him as an individual let alone a sweet boy who deserved it...he was a vehicle to line her wallet and fill her coffers)

Tuesday, September 5, 2006 Today I was officially a horrible mommy. I failed all the way! I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
I need to pray for my relationship with Collin… I can’t explain it. I love him so much but I don’t understand him. His frustration is unexplained and I don’t know what he wants a lot of times… he just starts shrieking and I tend to ignore it a lot. He is such a sweet boy and so cute and smart. But I just don’t understand him!!!! Lord please help me to understand Collin and help me to only feel love when he is near!!!! Hold my frustration with him and help me to feel only love!!!!! Help me to be a loving mother who is slow to wrath and quick to love!!!! Please help tomorrow to be a better day for all and help me to take time and play with my kids! Help all of us to benefit! Amen.

Jeanne said...

I don't believe Kate was visiting Nanuq at the vet clinic. I do believe she would pay the vet to keep the dog an extra night or more so that she wouldn't have to do any extra care. I still don't believe the dog is sleeping in her bed or bedroom or spending time with Kate loving her. I think this is all some drama in her head and a distraction for the fans. She is pretending. I don't know if it was her idea or Steve's to get the dogs but it's all BS.

Unfortunately, I do not believe any of this info about Colin will make any difference. Best case, Jon will get shared legal custody. But TLC seems to not care, the judge seems to love her, the fans think she's an amazing mother. Colin is possibly lucky to have been sent away. He is away from Kate's hatred.

GollyGee said...

NJ51Gal, I had no clue THOTRS was a reference to a brothel!

You learn something new everyday!

Sad but true said...

Not done with the questions yet. Today's post only got 2,870 or so likes. Must not have gotten her order in on time.

miloandjack2016 Did YOU find this growth...or the vet? I reg. give my dogs a "pat down"...gentle total body massage. W/such thick fur...cuts, infections & tumors can go unnoticed until its too late! #DogsAreFamily. ❤ @kateplusmy8 Glad this was caught early for #Nanuq!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#182), hmmm, let's go over Nurse TFW's track record with her own kids. She's missed/ignored sprains, gashes, chronic stomach pains, black teeth, and double ear infections. Not too confident that she's doing daily lump checks for her dog.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#177), another missed opportunity for TFW. There are sooo many of these cooking/holiday/lifestyle/travel shows out there, and she can't get a gig to save her life.

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