Wednesday, February 17, 2016

A reality star's daughter breaks her silence: I was 'exploited, 'powerless without a voice'

One reality T.V. kid steps into adulthood, and introspection: 'Excess debris created by a produced, manipulated, pseudo-reality universe.'


Says Real Housewives daughter Christie Staub in this chilling account (and big foreshadowing):
  • My mother's storyline was edited and produced, placing her in scenarios to achieve a desired outcome. She wouldn't normally be involved in these scenarios; they were dictated by the producers, and they just told my mom where to show up for filming. In season one, my mother didn't expect this to happen. These were the early days of reality shows. In 2006, The Hills was in its first season, and the Real Housewives franchise had yet to become a household name. Today, reality stars are savvy, but a decade ago, talent lacked a frame of reference. Other than Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, my mother had never seen a reality show. Just be myself, she thought. Little did she know that myself is how the producers choose to present you. Every story arc needs an antagonist and a protagonist—that is what creates the conflict and resolution, i.e. the drama. 

  • Imagine if all of the arguments you've had in your life were filmed by a stranger, and they took out the worst things you said, edited it together, and then presented the footage on TV to define your character. Would you say that characterization was accurate? Anything that is produced, and edited in this manner, is fictitious by default, but unlike an actor, my mother didn't have the advantage of hiding behind a character, not to mention that the reality forms a perception that is impossible to overcome when the viewers aren't aware of what goes down behind the scenes. The producers had the power to manipulate my mother in anyway they pleased to increase ratings. When the second season ended, my mother decided to leave the show. The network portrayed her decision as her getting fired, but she left to save her life and her kids. 

  • Even now, all these years later, people see me as a character created by a producer. They see me as the daughter of an infamous reality show prostitution whore. They may not have called me garbage like they called my mother, but that's how they made me feel. They took away my name and my voice. My name is Christine Staub, and I will no longer be the excess debris created by a produced, manipulated, pseudo-reality universe. I will never again be a character defined by unethical producers, and exploited by networks all over the world. I am no longer a child, powerless without a voice.
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/growing-up-as-the-daughter-of-a-real-housewife#

1316 sediments (sic) from readers:

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Another reason I feel pretty sure none of the other kids are involved in activities is that TFW has repeatedly spoken about C's lacrosse, and attending games. Why would she only chose to speak about that one and only activity if there were several others?




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Here's your other huge red flag circumstantial evidence: the planting episode started more or less on an early Saturday morning and went for two days straight. Kate said so.

So from Saturday morning until Sunday night ALL eight of the kids had NOTHING else to do? No sport game or practice, no scout trip, no birthday party?

It's not possible eight different kids actively engaged in all sorts of good activities have an entire weekend with absolutely nothing to do but plant.

One or two kids, yes. All eight, no.

Oh and also Mady and Cara say they sleep away the day, and Kate even has said that on twitter. Kids who have a healthy schedule filled with good activities might be able to have one sleep-in day now and again on the weekend, but it's not often.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I can hear her now: "Why would I go? I already know what goes on. It's the same thing every year."

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If she would say that, then she's full of it. Only the twins have "graduated" to MS and would have attended the breakfast. It doesn't happen every year for all of them.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Random stuff like the weather or how to roast a turkey. Random stuff like the weather or how to roast a turkey.

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I am still trying to find out where I can purchase a bread machine that slices the bread as it bakes. So far I have come up empty.

Jamesvader1194 said...

So which kids do you guys think they'll get for the spinoff show?Because if Leah goes by her word and is going to leave the house at 18,then she's not and i believe Hannah is going to follow Leah as well and doesn't want to either ever since last year she wanted to be with Jon.I don't know about the boys,maybe 1 of them.But i don't think all 3 love it.Im completely unsure about the twins because mady may or may not IF she was upset at Alaska cause she didn't want to film then no and i don't think Cara would unless Mady persuaded her into it.Alexis i feel she's going to because of the way she's the most popular one of the 6,i feel its going to get into her head when she's older and she may want to do the spinoff.So i feel Alexis,mady,maybe Cara and ?????

fidosmommy said...

can hear her now: "Why would I go? I already know what goes on. It's the same thing every year."

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If she would say that, then she's full of it. Only the twins have "graduated" to MS and would have attended the breakfast. It doesn't happen every year for all of them.

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I realize that. :) What I meant was that Kate might
brush off an important school event that involved her child(ren) by saying some outrageous thing about it being too annoying for her to deal with. Meh. Not a thought of how important it would be for her child(ren) to have her there. Darn, SHE might be bored.

Kind of like the school trip she found boring, the Spanish classroom event she tweeted about and her comment about the Grand Canyon.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

So which kids do you guys think they'll get for the spinoff show?

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I wouldn't even venture to guess. That's several years in the future and even if (and that's a big IF) a spinoff is done, much can change until then.

FlimsyMcFlamsy said...

Top o' the mornin' to you!

I wonder if TFW finally tweeted yesterday because
maybe her nose was out of joint when "her" Tuesday night on TLC was taken over by Duggarpalooza. So maybe she took the opportunity to electronically stand on a chair and wave and say, I'm still here! And I wrote a cookbook! Twice, in fact! Go ahead and order it!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think the Obamas are wonderful parents who have been very protective of their girls these past eight years. I love this sassy interview Michelle gave the other day about how she is darn ready to get her and her girls OUT of the White House:

"They've handled it (the presidency) with grace and with poise, but enough is enough."

Why is it Kate can't recognize after eight years, enough is enough? This is so simple.

FYI said...

Just a thought on why Milo hasn't been active on twitter...

Although I don't know her religious affiliation, perhaps she gave up twitter for Lent. Since Easter is on Mar. 27, she can still return just in time to gush about the Gosselins' Easter and Kate's birthday.

Disturbed said...

Why is it Kate can't recognize after eight years, enough is enough? This is so simple.


The Obamas are financially set, having a net worth of several million plus his future speaking fees and Michelle is a lawyer who could go back to work and/or collect her own speaking fees. I doubt Kate's future would look that financially rosy were she to quit collecting a paycheck.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The Obamas are financially set, having a net worth of several million plus his future speaking fees and Michelle is a lawyer who could go back to work and/or collect her own speaking fees. I doubt Kate's future would look that financially rosy were she to quit collecting a paycheck.


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A family of eight does not need "millions" to be financially set. Are we sure she's not set? She seems to have no problem maintaining private school and that house. That's not easy.

Kate SHOULD have been financially set after a decade of this. She should have kept their lifestyle the way it was and socked away the majority of their earnings. They made hundreds of thousands of dollars on the show and she made many hundreds of thousands of dollars more doing DWTS and CA.

If she is not set after all that, that's her fault.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Although I don't know her religious affiliation, perhaps she gave up twitter for Lent.

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I don't know why that made me spit my coffee.

Disturbed said...

"A family of eight does not need "millions" to be financially set."


I'm talking about being financially set for life. Kate's got at least 40 more years so she'd better have a pretty hefty bank account/investments if she's going to retire now.

"Are we sure she's not set?"


That's just it, we don't know, we merely speculate.

Furthermore, comparing saying "enough is enough" with regard to leaving the White House is apples and oranges with Kate filming. Kate loves what she's doing. Being and having the responsibilities of the First Lady is a far cry from prancing around in a reality show having spa treatments and free trips.




Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm talking about being financially set for life. Kate's got at least 40 more years so she'd better have a pretty hefty bank account/investments if she's going to retire now.

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But what 40 year old is set for life at 40 years old?

It's called working until your 60's or more. What everyone else does.

At some point she probably will have to go back to work. It may not be for another decade, who knows.

It doesn't change my original point, that the Obamas understand that after eight years in the spotlight it's enough for kids.

They didn't make much money sitting in the White House anyway. If you want to make money you don't sit in the White House. You write books and do the speaking circuit. That's where the money is. So the idea that it's easy for them to say they want to leave the WH because they are loaded doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They didn't get rich from the WH. Incidentally, they got rich because of their own hard work and diligence. Not off their girls. In fact, they have thwarted any attempts for people to profit off the girls.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I think posting that question to this community of people was completely reasonable

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Of course it was. Ask away.

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It was a totally legitimate question. There are many on here who can figure out TLC's website. I find it sometimes confusing. Moreover, there are times when the channel listing is shows something different than what is being aired.

I don't recall anyone here asking if cookies are stored frozen in tupperware or in baggies, and if so, what size baggies. Sheeple ask silly questions, and I sometimes wonder if it's because they really are clueless, or if they just want a response out of her to be able to say, hey, Kate Gosselin tweeted me. The recent question from a twitter fan as to where to buy Kate's cookbook is a good example. Has the person never heard of Amazon or gone to Kate's website? That would be a good place to start. I think the tweeter wanted to hear from Kate, and it worked,

Someone here once suggested that a list (for fun and giggles) should be kept of the dumb things that sheeple say.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yes, because being the daughters of the President of the United States and children on reality TV is the exact same set of circumstances. Oh brother.

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Both set of children are living their prime childhood years in the public eye. Whether it's a reality show camera or a cnn camera I find it remarkably similar.

FlimsyMcFlamsy said...

Whoops -- I cut my own comment off! How rude!

I was saying, if this blog is causing negative feelings for anyone, I'd suggest reading somewhere else. I don't mean that in a snotty or sarcastic way at all -- I mean, it would make for a much happier day if people read and commented on blogs which are more to their liking.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I find the comparison remarkably ludicrous.

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You may. I simply look at complaints from grown adults now who were famous as children. It does not seem to matter whether they were on a tv show, on Broadway, on a reality show the child of a celebrity, or a child in the White House. The determining factor is clearly the public scrutiny, not how such scrutiny actually came about. See Any Carter. What a mess she was after four years of that.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Although I don't know her religious affiliation, perhaps she gave up twitter for Lent. Since Easter is on Mar. 27, she can still return just in time to gush about the Gosselins' Easter and Kate's birthday.

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lol!! I think, though, that there was much speculation that she belongs to the Jehovah Witness group, possibly because of her references to Sunday meetings, mid-week prayer groups, and some of the other things she has said. As far as I know, they don't celebrate Easter or Christmas. Has she ever tweeted that she went to Easter or Christmas services?

Disturbed said...

See Any Carter. What a mess she was after four years of that. Eisenhower's son turned out ok, Nixon's girls turned out ok, Caroline Kennedy is ok, the Bush kids are ok, Chelsea Clinton is ok....

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Not many, but then you didn't say all 40 year olds should say "enough is enough" when it comes time to quitting their jobs. You said it about Kate.

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What in the world? I never said any such thing.

Moreover, the statement from Michelle Obama was not about quitting her job. It was about leaving the scrutiny of the White House because enough was enough for her CHILDREN. SHE never said anything about quitting work. In fact she specficially mentioned all the ways she wanted to work post-White House, if you read her statement.

Neither did I call for Kate to quit her job or any job. But rather, it is time for her to take her CHILDREN off TV. Kate is an able bodied 40 year old woman with training and education free to work any number of jobs, including reality TV.

There is no reason, none, however, she should NOT be saying enough is enough with her own children, as Michelle Obama just did. No one is asking either Michelle or Kate to quit worknig.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I find the comparison remarkably ludicrous.

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The determining factor is clearly the public scrutiny, not how such scrutiny actually came about. See Any Carter. What a mess she was after four years of that.

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Exactly. Public scrutiny and being under a microscope is the same regardless if it's the child of a celebrity, a politician, a television evangelist or a kid filming for reality television. Paps are paps, cameras are cameras, and scrutiny is scrutiny. The impact from loss of a normal childhood is the same.

I find it remarkably ludicrous that anyone would find the comparison remarkably ludicrous! ;)

The poster just won't give up on these snide comments, will she/he?

fidosmommy said...

Could someone explain to me why, when there is a nice, interesting, detailed blog post with lots of meat to it, a reader will latch onto one tiny piece of it to
fling in your face like acid? You know, the forest/trees thing.
Drives me nuts.

Math Girl said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 22

Exactly. Public scrutiny and being under a microscope is the same regardless if it's the child of a celebrity, a politician, a television evangelist or a kid filming for reality television. Paps are paps, cameras are cameras, and scrutiny is scrutiny. The impact from loss of a normal childhood is the same.
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I agree that the impact of public scrutiny is the same (or very similar). The situation is worse for kids , like the G's, who not only have to endure the public scrutiny, but have to give up so much of their time for filming, etc.

foxy said...

I know I will receive flack from this but Amy Carter was 9 when she went to live in the Whitehouse and was always a wild child. Even though she eventually received a masters degree in Art from Tulane, she was also expelled from Brown due to academic reasons. She was always protesting things at school, Amherst in Mass, Brown where she was a student in her sophomore year and on an on. She gave her family a "run for their money" even before the Whitehouse when President Carter was Governor. I admire the Presidents and first wives who say the children are off limits. Margaret Truman also turned out well, maybe FDRs children not so much. I think a lot depends on your family life and not so much being in the public eye for scrutiny. I have neighbors who have 6 kids. The dad is highly respected, the mother is very selfish and only one kid turned out to be a good person. The other 5 are like the mother, selfish, lazy and only think about themselves. Sad really.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/president-obamas-daughters-not-impressed-during-turkey-pardon-20142611

Remember the two days of media hysteria over the Obama girls and their eye rolling at the turkey pardon? Not all that different from the two days of media hysteria over Cara and Mady's bomb of an interview on Today. Scrutiny is scrutiny when you're a child in the public eye.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I know I will receive flack from this but Amy Carter was 9 when she went to live in the Whitehouse and was always a wild child.


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Well, and her parents gave the media a LOT more access than the Clintons or Bushes or Obamas did to their girls. It was open season. Part of it was just not knowing better back then. We understand privacy better.

I only bring her up to point out that media attention in any form doesn't do most girls any favors. And even though the Obama girls have been largely out of the public eye they still are very much pulic figures and the media has still put them through intense scrutiny. And even despite as much protection as possible they are STILL over it. Which brings up another important point is that apparently even when parents make their best efforts to protect a kid in the public eye, they still feel the strain of such a lifestyle. Michelle Obama's words should be a warning, not an argument.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


They have a future. Kate's is fading. It's makes a whole lot of sense to leave one situation when there's something to look forward to. Kate's got her reality show, period, not a future of potential speaking engagements, consulting fees.

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Are you saying you think it's okay that Kate exploits her children because her future could be insecure if she does not? Help me understand this.

How do all the other families of multiples or many children get through life without a reality show? SHE created this dependence, and in the best interest of her children she needs to stop it. It really is not relevant to me whether the same lifestyle will be maintained if she leaves, or whether it would be somehow "harder" for her to walk away than the Obamas. It makes no difference when the point is you are protecting your child's emotional health and doing what is in their best interest. Even if the Obamas were walking away from the White House to a life of poverty, I am persuaded they would do so if it were best for their children and to get them out of the pubilc eye.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Amy Carter and the Obama children is a reasonable comparison. The Gosselins and Obamas is not. There is nothing I can say beyond "how ludicrous" because I think that anyone who believes that the Obama girls and the Gosselin children lead similar lives and face the same pressures is operating in a different reality.


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No one said they live similar lives so I don't know why you're arguging that point. But then again I don't find the Gosselins' lives to be that similar to the Duggars other than they both film reality shows.

What was said is that all these children, all of them, are public figures. What was said is all the children face similar emotions to being that public figure. I simply do not have ANY evidence, none, that it matters HOW someone is a pubilc figure. Whether you are an adult or child, how you get to be a public figure has no bearing on the fact that once you ARE a public figure, the pressures and lifestyle can be very unsettling.

The pressure of being a public figure is the same, how you get there and what your life looks like day to day may be very different. How your life is day to day doesn't seem to have much at all to do with it. Child stars have come from all different circumstances and yet child stars in all kinds of different scenerioes STILL report being very unsettled by what they went through. It is being PUBLIC that is the problem, not HOW you are public. Now certainly there are DEGREES of how it affects you. If your parents try not to prance you out all the time I'm sure your life is much better than a kid forced to go on reality tv every weekend. But it doesn't mean you still don't get upset just as much as any child star when the media goes nuts over your resting bitch face at a turkey press conference. This isn't a difficult concept. Good grief.

Tucker's Mom said...

Both set of children are living their prime childhood years in the public eye. Whether it's a reality show camera or a cnn camera I find it remarkably similar.
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The Gosselin kids are far more exposed (in frequency and intensity) than the Obama girls. However, Sasha and Malia are under far more intense scrutiny* when they do make appearances, which are for the most part, public and planned.
When the family goes out, they are actually able to slip in and out of public places like restaurants and stores without much notice and certainly no fanfare. After the fact, people are all "OMG, DID YOU SEE THAT? IT WAS POTUS/FLOTUS/SASHA/MALIA!!!!!"
The family have been quite active in the area. They've been remarkably effective about handling logistics, to such a degree that it is surprising. I do give The Obamas all the credit in the world for laying down the law when it came to Sasha and Malia. They were never served up on a golden platter, no matter how temped other parents would have been to use them to gain favor, approval and attention.


*Upon seeing Sasha and Malia's less than enthused appearance at a Thanksgiving turkey pardoning, GOP staffer, Elizabeth Lauten, wrote: "Dear Sasha and Malia, I get you’re both in those awful teen years, but you’re a part of the First Family, try showing a little class,” Lauten wrote. “Rise to the occasion. Act like being in the White House matters to you. Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar.”

Soon after, she resigned.

So yes, teens are going to be teen, but you know this public judgement of the Obama girls was taken very, very seriously. While Kate blows off Mady's very nasty behavior, and serves it up for public consumption and personal profit, other high-profile parents do their best to shield their children from such derision.

Tucker's Mom said...

Neither did I call for Kate to quit her job or any job. But rather, it is time for her to take her CHILDREN off TV. Kate is an able bodied 40 year old woman with training and education free to work any number of jobs, including reality TV.

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Kate has an enormous amount of media training, and has been managed and handled by the best in the business. It is stunning to me that she can't (or won't) get a job on tv that doesn't involve her kids.

Tucker's Mom said...

foxy said... 25
I know I will receive flack from this but Amy Carter was 9 when she went to live in the Whitehouse and was always a wild child.
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Very interesting. Amy always seemed a bit strange to me, but that's just from the little I saw.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 26
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/president-obamas-daughters-not-impressed-during-turkey-pardon-20142611

Remember the two days of media hysteria over the Obama girls and their eye rolling at the turkey pardon? Not all that different from the two days of media hysteria over Cara and Mady's bomb of an interview on Today. Scrutiny is scrutiny when you're a child in the public eye.
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Ha, I posted about this as I read down the comments, before I got to this one of yours. Great minds and all that ;-)

FlimsyMcFlamsy said...

The G kids have been in the public eye for more than a decade. It is mind-boggling when you think about it. From the tape TFW shopped until today, these children have been on display, with their mother assuring us it's what they want. I think we struggle to compare it to something because it's quite a unique situation. The closest most have been able to come is the Dionne family, but that was before the era of social media. What the G children are experiencing, as I've said before, is essentially a public science experiment. Some of the detrimental effects may not be discernable for years, if not decades, but I have no doubt that they will be many and varied. And that not
a single one of the 8 will come out unscathed.

Anonymous said...

I admire the way the Obamas have been able to restrict access to their daughters leaving them to mature somewhat normally considering the circumstances under which the family lives.

On the recent visit to Washington by our Prime Minister and his wife, Michelle Obama referred to Sophie Trudeau as her 'soul sister' because, having three young children, she puts her family first. Both wives appear to have got along well, both stressing the importance of education for girls.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyMcFlamsy said... 17
Whoops -- I cut my own comment off! How rude!

I was saying, if this blog is causing negative feelings for anyone, I'd suggest reading somewhere else. I don't mean that in a snotty or sarcastic way at all -- I mean, it would make for a much happier day if people read and commented on blogs which are more to their liking.
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Much to the credit of Admin and the Pool Girls/Guys who run this blog, this is a place where you find very little circular arguing. It allows discussion, not just flinging retorts like a shuttlecock back and forth, and back and forth until every. single. blessed. thing spirals into Godwin's Law.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I've been trying to point out to you why Kate is not going to be saying "enough is enough." You asked why she won't say that.

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Oh. Well, that was a rhetorical question. We all know Kate of course won't take her kids off TV, and the real reason is because she is a selfish and lazy pig who is willing to sacrifice her children's emotional health in order to maintain her fame and fortune. That needs no explanation.

capecodmama said...

Joy...Watching some awesome basketball. #5 Purdue in double overtime against #12 Little Rock. Watched #16 Holy Cross (Worcestet, MA) win last night
and #12 Yale (fil is an alum) beat #5
Baylor today. Loving it!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


See Any Carter. What a mess she was after four years of that. Eisenhower's son turned out ok, Nixon's girls turned out ok, Caroline Kennedy is ok, the Bush kids are ok, Chelsea Clinton is ok....

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The media frenzy around Amy was HUGE. Way bigger than any of those other kids other than the Kenendys. Most of those kids you named were MUCH older when they were in the White House with the exception of Caroline who was only there for a few years, and Chelsea and the Obamas, whose parents LEARNED from Amy Carter and other famous children and protected them.

Are they just okay because there's nothing harmful with being a famous kid, or because their parents recognized the potential for harm and thus made sure to keep them very sheltered in light of what happened to Amy? I say the latter, without question.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You still haven't explained why so many children don't fall apart under the public scrutiny.


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Interesting logic there. Many victims of child abuse don't display any negativity from the experience, go on to do well in school, get jobs, health relationships, and thrive.

Does that mean that abusing a child is okay?

So too will not every child in the public eye fall apart. But enough do and enough have specifically spoken out about WHY, in great detail, it was so difficult for them, for adults like you to stop poo-pooing their experiences and start accepting the reality of what fame can do to a child's psyche.

High Sodium Content said...

Not sure if anyone here has mentioned the Willis family. I watched most of their show the other night. I like them.

I don't boycott TLC just because I hate Duggars/Gosselin.

I found it (wonderful for lack of another word) that the dad was talking to the older kids (maybe 14 or 16 and older) as adults. They are in the "business"as a family and if they don't want to be part of it, no problem. The dad was talking about the future, of a new home for the family, a new music studio, etc. The kids voiced their desires for a family music studio over a huge house, figuring the parents only had 6ish kids that they still need to worry about (legally).

The girls were very thoughtful in what they want for a future, as in a music studio, separate from anyone's home, so they can just do their music whenever they want. The kids were also very aware, that they have money of their own, from their family (band/entertainment) and expressed desire to put it towards something, other than sit in a bank account. There has never been such thoughtful thinking in a Duggar/Gosselin show

The family has 100+ acres and they voted to have a surveyor look at the land to divide it up in the future for each child. How refreshing. Some of the girls stated in the future, it would be up to them and their husbands to decide where they live, but they can always have that blot of land, as a vacation home, at short term residence while recording in the "family" studio. I can't imagine having a family that is so talented. The oldest son and his fiance broke up, because of differences (no one's business-they didn't actually say that). Can you imagine Gosselin/Duggar not going along w/ a planned married because of what it would do to ratings.

I just find them very genuine.

(And thank God, I remembered about the paragraph police here, and just created some.) LOL

Susan1956 said...

Not to go off topic, but the ratings for the latest Duggar fest are in--under a million, but probably good enough for TLC.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/16/tuesday-cable-ratings-march-15-2016/

Wonder how Kate likes their ratings?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not to go off topic, but the ratings for the latest Duggar fest are in--under a million, but probably good enough for TLC.

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Yep probably good enough. But I bet they were hoping and expecting much better from the Duggars. It's good to see there was nothing spectacular to show for their ratings.

TLC stinks said...

Tucker's Mom said:

Kate has an enormous amount of media training, and has been managed and handled by the best in the business. It is stunning to me that she can't (or won't) get a job on tv that doesn't involve her kids.

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Actually, I think she CAN'T get a job in TV without her kids. She's had opportunities and blew them all. Media training can't substitute for having talent, a warm personality, and the ability to speak without pre-coaching.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Susan1956 Don't think it matters what Kate thinks because i doubt TLC will cancel the duggars for those ratings when Kate started out with the same viewers until she got pushed to 10pm after the little couple.Im sure TLC will do something similar with the duggars and push them to a time slot after one of their more popular shows in order to boost viewers.

fidosmommy said...

I can't imagine what Jessa, Ben, Spurgeon, Jill, Derick, Israel and the choir girls have to say that's worth tuning in for. Will it be more eye-dabbing over Josh? Watching women gaze at their husbands? Watching babies get indoctrinated? Listening to sisters chatter over tea? What? What? Less that one million viewers seems like a few hundred thousand too many to me, but then I've never been good with numbers.

Tucker's Mom said...

High Sodium Content said... 41
Not sure if anyone here has mentioned the Willis family. I watched most of their show the other night. I like them.

I don't boycott TLC just because I hate Duggars/Gosselin.
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It just goes to show you the difference between a family who has a life, a business, careers and talent, vs. "Our show is our life, and our life is our show".
The cameras can go away, and the Willis family will carry on, won't piece and patch, or run to every media outlet and cry that they don't know what will ever become of them if they're not on tv.

FYI said...

Susan1956 said... 40
Not to go off topic, but the ratings for the latest Duggar fest are in--under a million, but probably good enough for TLC.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/16/tuesday-cable-ratings-march-15-2016/
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According to the link you posted, they had 1.913 million viewers and with a .6 share.

These were the ratings for the specials that aired in December. Thanks to Leslie for posting them on the previous page:

Dec. 13th 2.2 million .8 share
Dec. 20th 1.89 million .7 share
Dec. 27th 2.47 million .8 share

So for the four shows that aired, they averaged 2 million viewers.

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Tucker's Mom said...

Susan1956 said... 42
Not to go off topic, but the ratings for the latest Duggar fest are in--under a million, but probably good enough for TLC.
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Thanks for the report! That has to be a disappointment to TLC and the Duggashians. I'm quite surprised it's under a million, yet somehow feel my faith in my fellow human beings grow just a little bit ;-)

foxy said...

I think people are pretty disgusted with the Duggar family as more things come out about them. I really find nothing interesting in these people, no jobs, no education, really nothing of interest to show. Josh being out of rehab and welcomed back into the fold and Anna taking him back is really mind boggling. I hope she never leaves her kids unattended when he is around. I would never trust that slime ball around anybody.

I hope that show goes off the air soon or at least has very few specials.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh, another point about Caroline Kennedy. After her father was killed and they left the White House, her mother moved them to New York City where the children led a very private and sheltered life. Jackie was famous for retreating into a private life. The children did not give interviews, were rarely seen, and were allowed a normal upbringing.

Maybe Caroline's not messed up because her mom actively took her out of the public eye as soon as she possibly could so she could have a normal childhood despite being a very famous child. Well done, Jackie. Unlike KATE.

localyocul said...

The duggars aren't under a million, they were at 1.9 million. How does that compare to TFW?

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Foxy we've been saying the same thing when it comes to Kate but TLC still airs her.From the duggars 1.913 million viewers,it seems like they're not going away anytime soon.It sucks because some people from the boycott duggars group have told me from what they saw,the duggars had like 0 advertisements for their show and 99% of it was from TLC.

FlimsyMcFlamsy said...

Admin (#52), one of Jackie O's most memorable quotes was, "If you bungle raising your kids, I don't think whatever else you do well matters very much."

Then you have TFW, who said being with her 8 young kids for a week, and then leaving them for a week, was what worked best for her family. One of her rare sincere moments that showed her true colors

FYI said...

localyocul said... 53
The duggars aren't under a million, they were at 1.9 million. How does that compare to TFW?
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Of the 8 episodes of Kate plus 8 that recently aired, four had under 1 million viewers. The lowest viewership was .736 million and the highest was 1.289 million. For the 8 episodes, the show averaged one million viewers.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Watching women gaze at their husbands? Watching babies get indoctrinated? Listening to sisters chatter over tea? What? What? Watching women gaze at their husbands? Watching babies get indoctrinated? Listening to sisters chatter over tea? What? What?

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Well, I just saw a preview clip. The next show is sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. The one gal and husband are on a "date" at a restaurant and hubs is shoveling something into his mouth while practically lying on the table. It is really disgusting. Apparently they were absent during the course on good etiquette.

Leslie said...

Pa Dutch Mom: I do know what activities in which these kids participate in school and extra-curricular activities, clubs, sports and so forth."

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Without saying what child or children have specific activities, can you tell us that two or four or how ever many have activities outside of school? We know they all play an instrument. And we know Cara plays a sport. Mady said she acts in plays. But perhaps you can just generally state that yes or no how many kids (not which ones) do have activities (do not have to state the activity). Thanks! It would at least settle the debate here where the kids do other things other than film.

Tucker's Mom said...

I got the impression that the instruments were school-issued and not an individual expression-more like part of their curriculum.
The implication was that Kate is fostering musical pursuits herself, like many parents, but the music is part of their school program.
The kids looked like they barely knew how to handle the instruments, let alone play them.
It looked like show and tell. Just one more thing for the show's story line.

TLC stinks said...

Well, so far any pictures of kids in the plays posted on the school website shows no Mady. I get the feeling she does not get lead roles? I've seen the other kids in school photos so there is no Gosselin blackout.

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, the instruments are issued and taught by the school. On the room swap episode, the kids said they selected what to play in the music room. I don't recall any other activities mentioned for any child other than Cara and Mady's one play.The piano/violin in the house are possibilities I suppose.(Is there a piano now ??) At least the kids have bikes etc and other outdoor toys- and I don't mean the John Deere!

Localyocul said...

Kate is a twit said... 56
localyocul said... 53
The duggars aren't under a million, they were at 1.9 million. How does that compare to TFW?
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Of the 8 episodes of Kate plus 8 that recently aired, four had under 1 million viewers. The lowest viewership was .736 million and the highest was 1.289 million. For the 8 episodes, the show averaged one million viewers.

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Thank you! I think she's laying low because she's kissed about the Duggars

PA Dutch Mom said...

Without saying what child or children have specific activities, can you tell us that two or four or how ever many have activities outside of school?

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Hi Leslie, in my post (199), I commented that I don't know what their activities outside of school may be, and I won't get into anything about what they do in school. I'm sorry. If Kate wants to talk about it, that's her choice. Right now she is not saying nothin' about nothin' (other than her defunct cookbook).

FYI said...

In regards to the Duggar's show, I forgot to mention that there were several promos for the show shown on non-Discovery networks. I saw promos for the show on both TNT and USA.

Nothing like watching an episode of Major Crimes or Rizzoli & Isles, and seeing the Duggars pop up on my screen. Needless to say I was not happy.

So TLC really went heavy on the promotion for the Duggars.

Gigi Be said...

They made hundreds of thousands of dollars on the show and she made many hundreds of thousands of dollars more doing DWTS and CA.

I thought I read somewhere during the filming of CA, each contestant was only getting 3K?
But supposedly Kate did in fact get 500,000 for DWTS. Good chunk of change. Jon let it slip years ago that Kate got 1 mil for the publishing of her first book

TLC stinks said...

I believe what Kate earned for DWTS and Celebrity apprentice were exaggerated. I doubt what Jon said about the $1 million for the book. According to Publisher's Weekly, in 2009 523,000 books were sold. Her "ghost" writer took 1/3 of any proceeds after the publusher's cut. Despite it being on the NY Times best seller list, many authors buy that position. Years ago I supplied links how this is a common practice. The book was heavily promoted because she was TLC's darling and the show was top rated.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 66
I believe what Kate earned for DWTS and Celebrity apprentice were exaggerated. I doubt what Jon said about the $1 million for the book. According to Publisher's Weekly, in 2009 523,000 books were sold. Her "ghost" writer took 1/3 of any proceeds after the publusher's cut. Despite it being on the NY Times best seller list, many authors buy that position. Years ago I supplied links how this is a common practice. The book was heavily promoted because she was TLC's darling and the show was top rated.
March 18, 2016 at 10:03 AM
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I do recall that, which puts things in perspective when you see these "celeb" books topping the charts, when they are just not worth the paper they're printed upon.
IIRC, from Robert's book, Kate (and Beth) got a 100K advance, and THAT'S what Kate was trying to screw Beth out of as much as she possibly could. Hence, slapping Jon's name on the book in an attempt to take 2/3 of that 100K, not 1/2.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I believe what Kate earned for DWTS and Celebrity apprentice were exaggerated.


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THe DWTS salaries were released several years ago, maybe even during that big hacking. And it was a hefty sum. Bottom line is despite many failures this woman has earned enough money from all her successes to pack up and head home and live a comfortable life for decades. If she squandered much of it by living beyond her means, by making choices to upgrade her life with a huge house, cars, and private school, that's her fault.

fidosmommy said...

Help me with my math, please.

Books sold. 523,000.00
Cost of book (average?) $15.00

Total $ from sales. $ 7,845,000.00

Split 4 ways - $ 1,961,250.00 each
(publisher, Beth, Jon, Kate)
I have no idea what publishers, editors, promoters, etc. cost so I'm figuring 1/4 of the total.

Am I doing this right?

Blowing In The Wind said...


.. Xx

Thank you! I think she's laying low because she's kissed about the Duggars

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lol!! I don't think that she's kissing any of the Duggars right now.

Blowing In The Wind said...

This one is for Math Girl:

Someone tweeted two years ago the Gosselin kids "are going to be 10."

Response tweet today...

Emily Bauer ‏@embauer_ 24m24 minutes ago
#timehop @Kateplusmy8 this means they are 12!!!

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said...

I agree Kate has probably earned enough money, that she's sitting pretty. The problem is she doesn't want the lifestyle she has she wants the lifestyle the rich and famous have. The private jets, designer clothes, paparatzzi (sp?), adoration, living in a cool place (think NYC or LA, you know where the action is). And she doesn't have enough money to live like them. She'll never stop wanting what others have and she doesn't.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I agree Kate has probably earned enough money, that she's sitting pretty. The problem is she doesn't want the lifestyle she has she wants the lifestyle the rich and famous have. The private jets, designer clothes, paparatzzi (sp?), adoration, living in a cool place (think NYC or LA, you know where the action is). And she doesn't have enough money to live like them.


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That's right. She has plenty of money to live a nice middle-middle class lifestyle, one probably an upgrade from when the kids were babies.

What she wants is the upper-middle or even rich lifestyle. That's not sustainable LONG TERM on just a reality TV show here and there. So she either has to accept a more downsized lifestyle or get back to work. I really dont' care, that's on her, but I won't hear of any crap about how she "needs" to keep exploiting the kids to live. No she f-ing doesn't. She needs it for how she WANTs to live, not TO live. Huge difference.

fidosmommy said...

I realize Kate was probably wise to refuse, but I'm not convinced personal safety was her main concern the day she rejected a ride in an SUV from a regular mom and demanded her limo ride instead. Where was that? A skating venue? I forget, but anyway, she came across as very rude, demanding and better than the average
mom. It's in her blood, I tell you!

Math Girl said...

The DWTS celebrity salaries have been released several times, and all reports agree. The base salary is $125,000, with additional pay for episodes after the first 2. Kate was on for 4 weeks, so she would have earned $20,000 extra for a total of $145,000. I believe the show also pays travel and accommodation expenses, plus miscellaneous expenses like installing and removing the dance floor in Kate's house.

This has been reported many times. Howard Stern's wife said that was how much she was offered to appear on the show. It has become a matter of public record several times when minors have appeared, and it has always been the same, with only minor variations at the end depending on the number of weeks the show runs.

Apparently all contestants, no matter how major or minor, receive the same amounts. If anyone ever received more, they haven't talked about it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Not everyone considers a private school education "squandering money." If you do, then don't send your children to private school but there's no reason to be so judgmental of others' choices for THEIR children.


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Has nothing to do with being judgemental. If you are sending kids to private school when you cannot afford it and the only way you can afford it is by making THEM work, you are squandering money.

By all means send them to whatever school she wants, I don't care. But SHE, Kate, needs to work for it. Not them.

Tucker's Mom said...


By all means send them to whatever school she wants, I don't care. But SHE, Kate, needs to work for it. Not them.

*****
Amen. The kids are paying for their schooling, home, food, healthcare etc. Kate has earned money on her own, but filming has been the mainstay of the family business, so the kids have been working for 10 years.
Regarding the pressure on public kids like the children of Presidents while in the White House, here's the thing- Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, the Bush twins and all before and after them have had their privacy protected by their parents.
Being public is a side effect of the parent's endeavor, not the very reason why they are famous to begin with.
Their homes, whether in the White House or not, aren't film studios. Their vacations aren't for public consumption and monetary gain. None has had each and every birthday party fone for profit.
The have those private spaces for refuge, for safety and for a safe place to fall.
The Gosselin kids have had cameras invade every possible private place: their home, their bedroom, their bathroom, their hotel rooms, their relatives' homes, their cars, their pool, their yard....
They have no place that is off limits, despite their mother swearing up and down that they would.

Gigi Be said...

Math girl 75- you're most likely right about the salary being closer to 145,000. I just remember a lot of stories came out the Kate was making huge money compared to others on the show. This link claims she was making 400k, that's 100k per show

http://hollywoodlife.com/2010/05/24/kate-gosselin-dancing-with-the-stars-paycheck/


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Localyocul said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 70

.. Xx

Thank you! I think she's laying low because she's kissed about the Duggars

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lol!! I don't think that she's kissing any of the Duggars right now.

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Haha*pissed

Blowing In The Wind said...

lol!! I don't think that she's kissing any of the Duggars right now.

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Haha*pissed

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I know. It just struck me as funny!

"I don't know if the exact shares were ever mentioned, but I do remember that Kate tried to grab more than she was entitled to under the agreement, but was repulsed, much to Milo's disgust."

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That's right! I forgot about that. Milo thought that Beth had a lot of nerve asking for anything because she and Kate were besties and Beth had all the money she needed and was well off financially.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Speaking of writers, Virginia Penn Mom, are you out there reading? Haven't heard from you in a while.

And Redbird, are you out there?

Jeanne said...

I went to the school's website recently to check if it was spring break while they were possibly in New Orleans. I looked at the school's "news" site. The school appears to have a lot of interesting and fun activities for different ages. To me, it's sad if the G kids can't participate in any because they are filming or taking care of the chickens. Even worse if they can't participate because Kate is too special to spend time with the common people. I hope they get to do some things.

To clarify: I don't object to chores. I had chores, I'm sure many here did also. I object when these kids have earned their family's money and they have so many chores they can't have any fun. Children need some balance.

fidosmommy said...

What chores does Kate have besides shopping and cooking? I really do wonder how she spends her non-filming days.

Midnight Madness said...

Speaking of writers, Virginia Penn Mom, are you out there reading? Haven't heard from you in a while.

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Yes, I was just wondering about that. Virginia Pen always gave us such good information about publishing, royalties and such.

Midnight Madness said...

Speaking of the Duggars. I just saw a commercial where one of them said that things are dangerous in Central America right now, there's violence and you just never know when something is going to happen, but there they are, trudging along with the baby strapped on the front of Mom.

There's a 17th century proverb that says that God takes care of fools and children. I hope that's true.

Midnight Madness said...

This one is for Math Girl:

Someone tweeted two years ago the Gosselin kids "are going to be 10."

Response tweet today...

Emily Bauer ‏@embauer_ 24m24 minutes ago
#timehop @Kateplusmy8 this means they are 12!!!

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I saw that. Geez. I wonder if she needed a calculator to figure that out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Speaking of the Duggars. I just saw a commercial where one of them said that things are dangerous in Central America right now, there's violence and you just never know when something is going to happen, but there they are, trudging along with the baby strapped on the front of Mom.


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Not to mention Zika virus. If she has any chance of getting pregnant again in at minimum the next year, she has no business being there.

Anonymous said...

I've heard of working your way through college but these children have been working to pay for their education since they entered kindergarten.

bm

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: Virginia Commonwealth University defeated the Oregon State basketball team in round one off the NCAA division 1 men's basketball playoffs. University of Virginia defeated Hampton University. There is much celebration in central Virginia today!
THIS is the kind of reality tv I love!

JoyinVirginia said...

Cape cod mama, LOVE that Yale beat Baylor! There have been some fantastic games so far! More to come!

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 85

Speaking of the Duggars. I just saw a commercial where one of them said that things are dangerous in Central America right now, there's violence and you just never know when something is going to happen, but there they are, trudging along with the baby strapped on the front of Mom.


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Not to mention Zika virus. If she has any chance of getting pregnant again in at minimum the next year, she has no business being there.
March 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM
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What exactly do they do down there anyway? Spend all day trying to denounce Catholics?
Yes, it's utterly stupid to take such risks with a baby and there's no way her master, I mean husband, it going to condone any sort of birth control.

redbird said...

yes i m here. laptop in shop for 3 weeks. typing with 1 thumb on s.art tv bout to pull my hair out. i have so much to say. smart tv

fidosmommy said...

Yes, it's utterly stupid to take such risks with a baby and there's no way her master, I mean husband, it going to condone any sort of birth control.

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You don't suppose they've returned to their courting days rules for the duration, do you?

Yeah, right. HAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!

fidosmommy said...

From Wiki re: zika virus and childbearing age women:

As of February 2016, the CDC recommends that men "who reside in or have traveled to an area of active Zika virus transmission who have a pregnant partner should abstain from sexual activity or consistently and correctly use condoms during sex (i.e., vaginal intercourse, anal intercourse, or fellatio) for the duration of the pregnancy." Men who reside in or have traveled to an area of active Zika virus transmission and their non-pregnant sex partners "might consider" abstinence or condom use. The CDC did not specify how long these practices should be followed with non-pregnant partners because the "incidence and duration of shedding in the male genitourinary tract is limited to one case report" and that "testing of men for the purpose of assessing risk for sexual transmission is not recommended".

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Redbird (#91), sorry about the computer. Hope it'll be up and running again soon!

Still no birthday reminder from TFW? What's up with that?

Tucker's Mom said...

redbird said... 91
yes i m here. laptop in shop for 3 weeks. typing with 1 thumb on s.art tv bout to pull my hair out. i have so much to say. smart tv
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Hope you can still read here. Looking forward to seeing you online soon!
If that's like WebTV, I'd be pulling my hair out, too!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


Still no birthday reminder from TFW? What's up with that?

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There is still time. Give her a chance!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Men who reside in or have traveled to an area of active Zika virus transmission and their non-pregnant sex partners "might consider" abstinence or condom use. The CDC did not specify how long these practices should be followed with non-pregnant partners because the "incidence and duration of shedding in the male genitourinary tract is limited to one case report" and that "testing of men for the purpose of assessing risk for sexual transmission is not recommended".

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So if the Boobster is still trying to impregnate Babytalk, may we assume that he won't be visiting his daughters on their mission venture? :)

fidosmommy said...


So if the Boobster is still trying to impregnate Babytalk, may we assume that he won't be visiting his daughters on their mission venture? :)

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Zika is apparently spread by mosquitos. With all the Aqua Net those two wear, mosquitos shouldn't be a problem. That stuff repels everything.

Tucker's Mom said...

Zika is apparently spread by mosquitos. With all the Aqua Net those two wear, mosquitos shouldn't be a problem. That stuff repels everything.
March 18, 2016 at 7:46 PM
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Ha! Good laugh first thing in the morning. Speaking of which, still no Auntie?
;-(

Virginia Pen Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said ...

Speaking of writers, Virginia Penn Mom, are you out there reading? Haven't heard from you in a while.

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Midnight Madness said... 84

Yes, I was just wondering about that. Virginia Pen always gave us such good information about publishing, royalties and such.

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Hello, Flimsy, Midnight and everyone! What a nice surprise to see a shout-out this morning. I still read here several times a week. (The deadline for my next book is approaching, so I'm in my writing/researching cave or out promoting all the time, it seems. It would just be SO much easier if I weren't clunking around in crocs! Ah, what can you do?)

JoyinVirginia said...

OT about NCAA men's basketball. We stayed up last night too watch the Texas vs Northern Iowa game and saw the fantastic finish! Texas tied the game, less than five seconds remaining, we are sure they are going to overtime, Northern Iowa got the ball, player makes desperation throw from half court, IT GOES IN,NORTHERN IOWA WINS! The throw was just as impressive as the U Conn quadruple overtime winning throw last week.
I am sorry the Texas Longhorns and their coach the beloved Shaka Smart are out of the tournament.
Now on Sunday my beloved VCU Rams have to play Oklahoma... In Oklahoma! In the second round. It's a freaking home game for Oklahoma. VCU is definitely an underdog.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

fidosmommy said... 69
Help me with my math, please.

Books sold. 523,000.00
Cost of book (average?) $15.00

Total $ from sales. $ 7,845,000.00

Split 4 ways - $ 1,961,250.00 each
(publisher, Beth, Jon, Kate)
I have no idea what publishers, editors, promoters, etc. cost so I'm figuring 1/4 of the total.

Am I doing this right?

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It's a confusing business, which is why so many authors make bad deals. It basically works like this, although specific deals vary.

There are 4 main ways to publish:
1. Traditional with an advance + royalty deal (via agent)
2. Traditional with just a royalty deal (via agent)
3. Small press (no agent needed)
4. Self-publish

The author is paid differently in each, and each has advantages and disadvantages for the author.

Kate undoubtedly published in 2009 using option 1, and she probably received a large advance for her book because the Gosselin name was hot.

In traditional publishing, a publisher buys the rights to a book and gives the author a royalty on every book sold--they are purchasing (by royalty) the right to sell someone's else work for their own profit.

In giving an advance, publishers estimate what they expect to make on a book and then pay a high enough advance to attract the author but also low enough so that the publisher still makes a handsome profit. The publisher makes an educated guess as to future sales. The advance gives the author some cash flow to live on while writing the next book or finishing this one.

Royalties typically run about 10% of sales, so on a $20 book, an author would earn about $2 on every book sold.

So, say that an author:
* receives $10,000 advance upon signing book deal.
* Has a book with a $20 cover price
* Earns a 10% royalty = $2 per book sold at full cover price.

If 5,000 books are sold, the author then earns $10,000 (at $2/book) in royalties, enough to "pay off" the advance.

For every book sold after that, the author receives royalty checks now that the advance is paid off.

If the book never earns back its advance, the publisher usually loses, and that author will have a hard time negotiating good deals in the future. (It's a LOT of pressure on an author to perform and move those books quickly.) But some strict book deals make an author repay an advance not earned in book sales.

I have a friend whose brother is an international bestseller. The publisher expected that the brother's name would carry my friend's book. It didn't. She made a bad deal, though, and now is stuck repaying the advance back to the publisher since she didn't sell enough copies. The publisher must have hedged its bets, not being positive the brother's name would sell.

Agents, editors, proofreaders, promoters, printers ... all paid from the 90% of the book sales the author doesn't see. That is the publisher's business to attend to.

My tired brain can't think through Kate's deal, but maybe that gives someone here enough to take it the rest of the way!


Dmasy said...

Hello Virginia Pen Mom. I am glad that all is well with you.

It always feels good to see a familiar name from cranberry dish and vinegar days gone by.

Good luck with the newest book.

Formerly Duped said...

I was also wondering about Millicent, readerlady,librarylady, Pink etc.I know people move on or are too busy to post etc. Or I might have missed something...sometimes people take a break...

PA Dutch Mom said...

It would just be SO much easier if I weren't clunking around in crocs! Ah, what can you do?)

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Ah, but the important thing is...has your muumuu been cleaned and nicely pressed? Good to see you, and best of luck with your new literary endeavor!

PA Dutch Mom said...

I was also wondering about Millicent, readerlady,librarylady, Pink etc.I know people move on or are too busy to post etc. Or I might have missed something...sometimes people take a break...

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...and Bear's Wife, and Moose. I always remember the animals! Who had the cats? Was that readerlady?

fidosmommy said...

It would just be SO much easier if I weren't clunking around in crocs! Ah, what can you do?)

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Take the socks off, girl! :)

jolie Jacquelyn said...

PA Dutch Mom said....
I was also wondering about Millicent, readerlady,librarylady, Pink etc.I know people move on or are too busy to post etc. Or I might have missed something...sometimes people take a break...

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...and Bear's Wife, and Moose. I always remember the animals! Who had the cats? Was that reader lady?

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...& Dallas Lady, ChefSummer, Dwindle, Aggie'smom, and of course, Auntie :(

Nice to see you drop in Virginia Pen Mom. Wish we could know more about your books, past & future.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Forgot to say thank you to Tucker's Mom for the link to the eagle's nest. Saw the first born being fed pieces of fish yesterday, still waiting for the second one to hatch.

Formerly Duped said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 105
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Yes, it was readerlady who had cats! I remember that too. And Aggie mom ...and are Lanc Native, and Kate's County still here? I know some just add a comment now and then like Jane, Deck Chairs...

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Virginia Pen Mom (#100), so nice to hear from you!
Good luck with new project. Probably takes a while to type a book with one hand, as we're always clutching our pearls with the other! Tee hee!

Jane said...

Waving hi to Virginia Pen Mom!

Tucker's Mom said...

jolie Jacquelyn said... 108
Forgot to say thank you to Tucker's Mom for the link to the eagle's nest. Saw the first born being fed pieces of fish yesterday, still waiting for the second one to hatch.
*****
I'm ensorcelled and mystified. DH and I were wondering what are they going to call the kids? Sasha and Malia?
;-)

TFW Did Everyone Wrong said...

Add my name to those wondering where Millicent is,
because she doesn't know it, but her posts have helped to change my views about stuff. Thank you,
Millicent. And, Sillimom, I've wondered about her, too. Probably because I don't know if it was she or Tucker's who posted a recipe when I first found this blog; and wanting to be able to cook something good and decent, I made that dish and
have so desired to share the story of what happened to the end result, but decided it was just another sad song for my cooking at age Older
Than Dirt!

Tucker's, even today I make sure to make note if you mention anything/everything you've cooked or will cook and I longingly wish that I could whip up stuff like you do. I am a Kate in the kitchen and that means I'm hopeless.

There have been many topics of late which can
cause emotional havoc should each person take
everything as a personal slap when that shouldn't happen. Please, let the opinions roll rather than to stumble and become angry and distressed. Life is so short. The wonderful thing in my eyes is that I've learned stuff here; and I've had a change of heart about so many issues. I certainly do not agree with everyone, but I also don't resent someone's opinion just because it differs
from mine. Admin did us all a fantastic
service by organizing this blog and her demands
are basically few and acceptable.

Thank y'all all who contribute here.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

New post catching up on some recaps I owe you. The dating one is coming soon...enjoy!

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