The youngest star of TLC's Little People, Big World, who has been filming the show since he was about seven years old, has been speaking out more frequently about his dislike of filming and his desire to protect other reality stars from a childhood played out on T.V. screens
Jacob recently met Jack Hamill, star of Our Little Family. Jacob had this to say on Instagram about the encounter (click to enlarge):
The post garnered more than 2,500 likes in less than fourteen hours. (On average, Jacob's Instagram posts get 800-1200 likes each).
Well done, Jacob, and keep speaking out. You have a unique perspective not many others can claim to possess.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1781 Newer› Newest»Kate will fly them to the other side of the globe to film, but won't allow them to go on a perfectly safe trip with school for one reason only- she's waiting to score that trip from TLC.
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I'm not sure that's the reason, although it may be part of it. I think that if they went on the overnight trips, it's out of her control. She needs to be with them on a trip because she's either afraid that something will happen to them (kidnapping), or they might have melt-downs and misbehave and she's not there to take care of the situation. She's in charge, and that's never going to change. It's all about control and Kate being able to dictate where they go, what they do, what they eat, where they sleep.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 23h23 hours ago
Hey @MirandaSings @ColleenB123 Cara, Mady and I L💋VED #MirandaCampReading How ‘bout summer camp daily for my PLUS 8?😍
How 'bout letting your kids go to summer camp in your own area? They'd love it. There are some wonderful camps in the Poconos, not far away from home. The girls could ride horses, the boys could fish. What a wonderful time they would have.
Fleecing The Sheeple (#1), I agree that TFW's control issue is
front and center with the no-trips edict. Also, I don't think she
genuinely cares if they enjoy their lives. I tried to think of a
gentler way of putting that, but I couldn't think of one. Their
needs and wants always come second to hers. Always
have, always will. They are a group. The activities the twins
have been gifted were their currency with her. Their own
personal bargaining chips. And as the 6 get older, they may
be able to leverage some perks of their own (the girls,
anyway -- the boys may just be doomed).
Thank you so much for the link Kiat. You're so good at that.
And thanks, Tucker's Mom. Yes, it's our sweet puggle.
I'm finding strength in the thoughts of a Hospice volunteer's piece that she wrote many years ago in our paper that explained the reasons why she re-entered her volunteerism with that organisation. She explained why, aside from her busy life as a doctor and mother, being so close to the beauty of the end of life experience enlightened and fulfilled her in an incomparable way. I'd share that wonderful piece if I had thought to keep it at that time, but I'm relying only on my memory.
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KIAT (#195), I think that was A who was told a lizard backpack
wasn't for girls. And am I just imagining this, or was J told that
purple wasn't for boys?
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It was one of the girls who wanted a reptile backpack and was told it was for boys. A lizard isn't so bad for a girl, and purple is okay for boys, but there is no way on this green earth that I would purchase a pink Barbie backpack for my son. Call me sexist or whatever, but nope...not gonna happen.
Handinhand...
The quality of life chart really helped me a lot in evaluating whether Comet was suffering. I felt very sure about the decision, which I think helped me with staying emotionally present. I also think that having it done at home contributed to the calm and peacefulness of the day. I thought that it might be upsetting to have the memory attached to my home, but that hasn't been the case. I am comforted by the fact that he was in familiar surroundings. Whether the request was for you or someone you know, you are in my thoughts.
FlimsyFlamsy,
It was Alexis that was gruffly told she could not have the lizard backpack because it wasn't for girls. This was on the same episode as the NOOOO, you have to wear Velcro another year because you ALL don't know how to tie your shoes! Why not take the time to do it, FW?
Because you probably already proposed a whole episode on how the littles learn how to tie their shoes.
It would be called Laces and Faces. The kids are learning to tie their shoes so they can move up to big girl and boys shoes. Oh, the faces their severely stressed and cantankerous mother gives to the kids and the camera when she is trying (All Alone) to teach them to tie their shoes.
All of a sudden an old friend stops by and just happens to know how to tie her own shoes and volunteers to teach the children how to tie their own shoes. Their mother is so relieved to be relieved from teaching them a skill that they could benefit from. TFW's eyes is as good as rolled back inside her head thinking of the free time she can have with TFM off the compound without the kids!
I have posted many times about how angry I was about Alexis not being able to get the lizard backpack.
My guess is that the school trips take place during vacations. Of course she needs to be available at the drop of a hat for filming filler to replace TLC's disgraced stars.
I assume that these trips have to be booked way ahead of time, and she wouldn't want to deal with the shrieks and panic that would ensue if she cancelled her kids after promising them they could go.
It could be the control thing too, but I tend to think that she just wants to be always ready for her closeup.
Donald Trump is giving a speech now and he has no makeup on. I didn't realize he's one of our freckly friends! His face is absolutely covered in orange freckles. I had absolutely no idea.
This explains the the caked on yellow makeup he always wears, apparently he or someone else didn't want all those freckles to show. I almost feel bad for him, because adults who are that freckly can sometimes be extremely embarrassed by them.
My guess is that the school trips take place during vacations. Of course she needs to be available at the drop of a hat for filming filler to replace TLC's disgraced stars.
I assume that these trips have to be booked way ahead of time, and she wouldn't want to deal with the shrieks and panic that would ensue if she cancelled her kids after promising them they could go.
It could be the control thing too, but I tend to think that she just wants to be always ready for her closeup.
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Yes I think it's all of that. What I don't understand is why on earth she would admit to it so openly, like there's nothing wrong with it. I would have at least expected her to keep it quiet she doesn't let them go anywhere, to have some self awareness that it's utter B.S. to not allow them to go on trips with the rest of their classmates. Socially she is setting these kids up for failure. Kids pick up on at a very easy age who is stuck up, too good for other kids.
This was in the imdb for Jon and Kate Plus 8.
Storyline
Documentary-style reality show about a Pennsylvania husband, wife and each of their 8 extremely individualistic children.
HUH??? She REFUSES to let them be individuals! 6-PACK, or Back Off, JACK!
Did you see the uproar over the customer service troll rep who was replying to tweeters? He was eventually shut down, but not before he got in some real zingers.
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Yes, I saw that. Did you see Target's response to the hateful trolls on their FB page?
http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/target-loved-guy-who-trolled-its-haters-judging-genius-facebook-post-166408
This explains the the caked on yellow makeup he always wears, apparently he or someone else didn't want all those freckles to show.
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To me he always looks like he stops by a funeral home to get his makeup done by the beautician on duty. And the hair...well, there are no words.
Yes I think it's all of that. What I don't understand is why on earth she would admit to it so openly, like there's nothing wrong with it.
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Her 'lol' at the end shows what a control freak she is. Ridiculous! She's a 1%er, funds aren't an issue. Her kids would love to go on a school sponsored trip, heck even a summer camp would be fun.
Kate's a tool.
Wow
My guess is that the school trips take place during vacations. Of course she needs to be available at the drop of a hat for filming filler to replace TLC's disgraced stars.
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The school trips take place during the school year, not during vacations, although the ski club does take its trips on weekends..
Her 'lol' at the end shows what a control freak she is. Ridiculous! She's a 1%er, funds aren't an issue. Her kids would love to go on a school sponsored trip, heck even a summer camp would be fun.
Kate's a tool.
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That and Kate with the twelve-year-old mentality can't go anywhere without a navigator so she thinks her kids need one too. She's absolutely helpless on her own.
I think her kids are way WAY ahead of her in the intelligence department and will do just fine when they finally escape from her clutches. Maybe that's what she's afraid of.
Socially she is setting these kids up for failure. Kids pick up on at a very easy age who is stuck up, too good for other kids.
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I was a bit surprised that she tweeted it, too, but then again, are we really all that shocked at anything she does? With tweets like that, she sets herself up for criticism, then turns around and whines about the haters. What in the world does she expect when you publicly admit that you don't let your kids go on school trips with their peers?
The cost of local school trips for younger kids is built into the tuition, so if she is taking money out of their trust for tuition, then they are paying for school trips but are not allowed to go. I have no idea why she won't let them go on trips.
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What! Then she has no excuse now. I was thinking maybe in the back of her mind she had to pay for it out of pocket and was trying to guilt some sheeple into sponsoring their trips.
It is such a crying shame not to send them on class trips. Some of my very favorite memories are going on band trips. We went to Washington D.C. and Toronto. Our whole class also went to "camp" outside NYC, probably in the Catskills somewhere. It was called Ashokan, I remember that vividly. It's such a good experience to get away from your parents at that age and strike out on your own. Kids that can do that comfortably in childhood transition much easier to the independence of adulthood.
I remember a few kids who didn't go for various reasons, and they felt SO left out. It was borderline cruel.
Yes or Megyn Kelly doesn't even have to get that elaborate. Just say I'll be out of town for the next week on a pre-scheduled vacation. Looking forward to time with my kids and see you soon!
I think it terrifies her to let these kids out in the real world too much. They might talk to other kids and develop some ideas and opinions of her own.
She can keep the twins in line right now with bribes but that's all going to change when there's eight of them. She won't be able to keep up with their demands or the bribes. They're watching Cara and Mady and their demands will be bigger and better. She knows she has a very tenuous grip on these kids agreeing to film and she doesn't dare even breathe for fear of messing that up.
Cynthia *G*rand @CJR17 57m57 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 Cannot wait!!
I can sort of understand the teeny tweeties and her very young fan base liking to see shows featuring the G kids. These fans are still wet behind the ears, want to have big families, think Kate is a goddess and the best mommy in the world. They are still too immature to understand the effects of filming minors who don't have a voice, and the ensuing exploitation. If you read their timelines, you can see that most of them are bubble-gum popping giggling kids whose priorities in life are shopping, partying, worshiping celebrities and tweeting selfies. Not all of them are like that, but it seems the majority of them are. They don't get it now, but maybe sometime in the future they will.
What I will never understand is why adults, such as the above tweeter, Carlene, Barb, Collie, and the few remaining sheeple want to watch other people's kids for their own amusement and entertainment. I may be alone in my opinion, but I think it's just really creepy wanting to ogle kids (and the vacations of others) who aren't your own. Or is it Kate who is the object of their affection and the children are just baggage?
The cost of local school trips for younger kids is built into the tuition, so if she is taking money out of their trust for tuition, then they are paying for school trips but are not allowed to go. I have no idea why she won't let them go on trips.
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What! Then she has no excuse now.
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Yes, admin. That policy was started many years ago so the teachers/heads of school didn't have to collect each student's payment for field trips. Some parents forgot to pay, kids forgot to turn in money, and the solution was not to have to bother with any of that if they figured in the cost of field trips into the tuition. What it comes down to is if a student decides not to go, he/she is paying for something to which that child is entitled and has already paid. With the enrollment agreement, there is a blanket permission for all field trips. Of course, when you get into upper grades, with more expensive trips that involve overnight travel, transportation, lodging, then there may be additional costs involved.
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Yes, admin. That policy was started many years ago so the teachers/heads of school didn't have to collect each student's payment for field trips. Some parents forgot to pay, kids forgot to turn in money, and the solution was not to have to bother with any of that if they figured in the cost of field trips into the tuition. What it comes down to is if a student decides not to go, he/she is paying for something to which that child is entitled and has already paid.
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I think that's a GREAT idea. You know what else it avoids? Fundraising. I don't really believe in kids spending as much time as some of them do fundraising for various things. They have too much homework and other important things today to spend time on that. Just pay it all upfront and be done with it.
There are no negatives to sending these children on some class trips. None.
Does she not even let them go on local school trips? That's insane! This is a great area for field trips! My kid has been to DC, NYC, Philadelphia, Gettysburg...and we are mediocre folk. Her school has had trips to Europe/Canada but we could not afford that. If I could that would have been great! WTH is wrong with her?
It is such a crying shame not to send them on class trips. Some of my very favorite memories are going on band trips
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My daughter quit the trumpet in 5th grade. I said, don't you want to play in the hs band someday? She said no, she didn't like the uniforms. Then I tried to get her to join color guard. Nope, wouldn't do it. Meanwhile, my neices who were in the band went to California to play in the rosebowl, Florida, and the Indianapolis 500.
If my kids had the opportunity to visit another country, province, etc with their schoolmates, I would jump at the chance! What a great experience it would be. Not only would they experience something new, but it would also give them the added confidence to be able to do that without their parents there. What a dolt! We all know her motivations for not allowing them, which makes me even angrier! My husband and I have always said, that if we won the lottery (LOL), it wouldn't be about a big house, cars, etc. it would be the ability to travel, and show our kids the world. And the sickening thing is, that she has the means to do it, but doesn't.
Back to school prep - really, Kate? Miss I'm So Organized and Love Amazon finds it too hectic now? I've learned my lessons in the past, and try to have everything done by the end of July (we don't start until after Labour Day). The only thing my boys have to be there for shopping, is shoes. Everything else is online. And she has it even easier, as they wear uniforms.
Ugh!
I think TFW is very worried that she loses control if the kids go on an extended school trip. They might well spill the beans about what their reality truly is.
Where is Chef? Still with the puppies?
Megyn is really getting slammed over the no vacation in six months comment. Why in the heck wasn't she smart enough to THINK before she said this? I just don't get it. She doesn't appear to be stupid, but then again, I guess with some, you just never really know. Intelligence and critical/logical thinking ability don't always go hand in hand.
And she has it even easier, as they wear uniforms.
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Six wear uniforms, the twins don't. I would hope that by now, with TLC paying for back to school shopping, that she won't be whining about buying khakis and white shirts.
Surely she lets her kids go on local field trips-- her 'lol' comment was directed at extended trips, possibly overseas.
We couldn't afford it, but our local high school takes students on summer trips overseas, usually Spain.
My nephew (different school district) went with his high school group to Spain and enjoyed it.
One of my kid's college boyfriends spent a summer term in Ireland. We never could afford these kind of expenses, but there's a lot of kids that spend an entire semester abroad.
Kate has the money to send her kids, she just doesn't want to spend it. She'd be all over a trip like stink on s**t if TLC was paying for it.
Damn, her fancy stove costs more than summer camps x 8. And didnt she already trade in her Audi for a newer one?
#priorities
I remember in 6th grade (then the last year of elementary school) we went on a field trip to an amusement park. I was shocked to find out there were a couple of people whose parents would not give permission and they had to stay at school. I felt soooo sorry for them and did not understand it at all.
Surely she lets her kids go on local field trips-- her 'lol' comment was directed at extended trips, possibly overseas.
We couldn't afford it, but our local high school takes students on summer trips overseas, usually Spain.
My nephew (different school district) went with his high school group to Spain and enjoyed it.
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You're talking about high school kids. The younger ones are still in lower school, and they do not go on extended trips, and not overseas.
Formerly Duped said... 198
Didn't the G kids get criticized for being under-dressed for a fall field trip a few years back - no jackets etc?
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I think that was just a nature hike? Probably really local
Lanc Native said... 191
Why send them on a school trip with teachers and friends to Spain when instead they can hand out dirty pizza through a window?
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Aggie -- the younger ones can't go on a trip to Spain or anywhere abroad. Those trips are just for kids in the upper grades. I wonder if she will let them go to Williamsburg (three days) when they get to 7th grade. I bet not.
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Itsounds like she didn't let the twins go...so ridiculous! The field trips I listed for my kid were just day trips but when I was in 5th and 6th grade we took a weekend field trip to a retreat center in the woods. That's where picky-eater-me finally tried scrambled eggs and loved them! I remember learning how to use a compass and hearing scary stories.
At least she won't have to gripe about the cost of uniforms for the twins this year!
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Oh, but it will be worse I'm sure. The twins will have to keep up with the fashion sense of the others! My kid went to a public school with a VERY wealthy segment. Some kids never wore the same outfit twice. And we're talking Urban Outfitters, not Target. It was a constant argument that far less than that was plenty. Exhausting
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I think it terrifies her to let these kids out in the real world too much. They might talk to other kids and develop some ideas and opinions of her own.
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Gee, sounds just like the Duggars.
localyocul, 31... I was shocked to find out there were a couple of people whose parents would not give permission and they had to stay at school. I felt soooo sorry for them and did not understand it at all.
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Not all kids like amusement parks or long bus trips and some get sick on park rides. I would think that parents know their own children and how they would do in certain situations. Then, too, it depends on how comfortable a parent is with the adults who are supervising the group. An amusement park is a big place and there are so many areas where a child can get lost or be grabbed by a stalker looking for kids. Not all parents feel at ease having their child go to such a place. Of course, it depends on the age of the child.
I remember chaperoning quite a few trips for younger children. It is a big responsibility, and I had to constantly take a head count to see if everyone was where they were supposed to be. Kids get on and off rides at different times, want to go here and there, and adults must be extremely organized and the trip must be well planned. Too many things can go wrong, and often do. I've seen it happen.
Had my (public) school offered school trips anywhere, my parents would have seriously considered letting me go. Seriously considered it. In fact, my Mom would have happily chaperoned. Besides all the camping trips and regional trips she chaperoned with children and teens, she took 29 (high school) Girl Scouts to Mexico for 2 weeks one year and 5 Girl Scouts to Europe for 3 weeks the next year. She was wonderful to have there. I was proud she was my Mom. She thought travel was so enriching.
They are still too immature to understand the effects of filming minors who don't have a voice, and the ensuing exploitation. If you read their timelines, you can see that most of them are bubble-gum popping giggling kids whose priorities in life are shopping, partying, worshiping celebrities and tweeting selfies.
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Do you mean like these? Is this what is left of Kate's fan base? Is this because Kate herself is stuck in that age group? Most of them have such a great command of the English language, and some of them are in college.
lex @ColleensDtown
@Kateplusmy8 @bostonscookie @MirandaSings @ColleenB123 ONGGGGGGGG
Mairin @mairinist
@Kateplusmy8 @payday1234 @MirandaSings @ColleenB123 OMLOMLIMLOMLOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
becca @OTPJoshleen3
becca retweeted Kate Gosselin
SHUT THE FUCK UP 🙊🙊🙊 SHE WAS THERE?!? COLLEEN IS SO FAMOUS OMG
Our middle school students take a summer trip to D.C-- (5th & 6th graders) and we are waaayyyy far away from the East Coast.
http://www.looper.com/2287/times-kate-gosselin-horrible/
Lanc Native said...
The school trips take place during the school year, not during vacations, although the ski club does take its trips on weekends..
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How does it work for the kids who don't go? Do they have classes as they normally would? When my kids were in school, the school trios were scheduled during a week. If students didn't go on one of the away trips, there were special interest groups at the school--ie cooking, sewing, art etc.
me @lsproul1228 11m11 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 saw Leah, Joel, and Hannah at chipotle in deptford tonight! My daughter is mad I didn't ask for a picture!
Deptford is in New Jersey. No reason for Kate to be there. Where is Jon DJ'ing tonight?
Marx would be pulling his hair out over Trump. He wouldn't know what to do with him, the struggle between the capitalist bourgeoisie and the proletariat, and exactly where Donald, as President, would fit into all of that.
Love him or loathe him, he really had a turn-out at the rally in New Hampshire tonight..
You know how some nights you come home after a long day of work and errands and you've got nothing planned for dinner so you throw together some macaroni and cheese?
sKate is TLC's macaroni and cheese. She's their go-to when they're scrambling to throw something on the air. She's the quickie, no-brainer, cheap-to-film filler.
Too bad Steve doesn't like macaroni and cheese.
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I think it terrifies her to let these kids out in the real world too much. They might talk to other kids and develop some ideas and opinions of her own.
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Ding, Ding, Ding!! We have winner, winner chicken dinner!!
I looked on Jon's FB and he has a ton of gigs! Yea, Jon!!
14 gigs with private parties AND gigs for CHARITY! When she does charity gigs, she allegedly, but I think she does, pockets the money!
Also, a tour of a total of 7 cities and states.
He has more employment this year than TFW has had in several years!
Robin, assistant to redbird
PJ you're exactly right she is the mac & cheese on the TLC menu. Not the gourmet kind, just the plain old mac & cheese from a box because when you cook it it's going to be the same thing every time. Great analogy.
Hey! Happy Anniversary, sKate!
Four years ago today, TLC announced the cancellation of "R" show.
Time flies when you're having fun.
PJ, I love it! Kate is TLCs mac and cheese! Spot on and so funny! :)
@Sassccha: @MarleneMetzler1 @Kateplusmy8 Kate has two of sophomore age - 15 in Oct. Were held back for filming ..
Now that's kind of a ridiculous statement. I'm an October baby and the cut off for my school district was September. I was always in the older half of my class due to my birthday. Nothing more, nothing less. The non fans can go overboard at times.
I've travelled abroad with 11-12 year olds as a teacher-leader, 41 kids, and I've also been a teenager traveling abroad with a school group to Europe. It actually wasn't bad at all to keep track of them. We never once lost one or had any incidents of note. The worst thing that happened was a splinter on the beach that didn't even require medical attention. Couple things we did is they all wore the same tshirt so it made them easy to spot. Everyone had a buddy to keep track of and no one was allowed to ever go off even just to the restroom without a buddy. We also had a count off system that we did pretty much constantly, with the kids counting off from 1 to 41 so we knew we had everyone. We had a firm policy that if you are lost you STAY WHERE YOU ARE don't move an inch. It's also important to be strict. When we said bedtime at 10pm, you were in your rooms at 10pm absent an emergency. When that rule was broken, you were written up and parents were called. It only took a few parent phone calls before bedtime was respected.
There's no reason organized, responsible and experienced teachers and parents cannot handle a school group traveling. Fear of that tiny chance that something might happen shouldn't outweigh the tremendous benefits of traveling with kids your age. Bad things can happen anywhere, including on vacation with your parents or at school. There's really not that much more risk on a school trip. If anything it's safer, because everyone is, one hopes, being that much more attentive.
Oh the group I traveled with as a kid and leader was called People to People Student Ambassadors. Sadly they went bankrupt this year. They have helped a lot of kids see the world. It's a real shame they never could get back on their feet after the recession.
Wow. Valerie Bertinelli landed a gig on Food Network!
Valerie's Home Cooking.
Kate's Home Cooking just doesn't sound right!
Redbird said....
14 gigs with private parties AND gigs for CHARITY! When she does charity gigs, she allegedly, but I think she does, pockets the money!
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Are you assuming that Jon is not getting paid for charity events? Charity events routinely pay for professional services--ie speakers, music sound systems and DJs, catering, auctioneers, entertainers etc. There is nothing wrong with getting paid for his work for nonprofits. It is possible that a donor may have paid for his services, and it is also possible that he is donating his services--we don't have that information. But, having worked on many fundraisers, it is not typical for small business to donate professional services, except fo, possibly, an auction (because if is a form of marketing). Given what we do know about his financial situation, I would think that he would not be in a position to donate his services. And, given that he supports his kids in his home, I don't think he should. After all, because he is performing a service that he personally performs that would mean that he would have to pass up a paying job.
Melissa Gilbert was on FN talking about her farm life and you can tell she loves it. Gets fresh eggs, butter, beef from the cattle rancher every year. The chicken she made looked so incredible!
She is such a natural. Unlike you know who!
Oh, she even used Old Bay Seasoning in the breading!
http://www.melissa-gilbert.com/melissarecipes.html
Regarding TFW and safety concerns...remember when she
sued Jon, saying something like he threatened her children's
safety, and then she left town on a book tour with the bodyguard?
According to her, Jon only handled 1% of the parenting
responsibilities, yet she felt free to hit the road and take
a security expert with her? Who was watching the kids
at this very difficult and possibly dangerous time?
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Oh the group I traveled with as a kid and leader was called People to People Student Ambassadors. Sadly they went bankrupt this year. They have helped a lot of kids see the world. It's a real shame they never could get back on their feet after the recession.
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My daughter went on that trip also--it was a leadership program, right? Had to have a school recommendation if am recalling correctly.
Good for Valerie Bertinelli for scoring her own cooking show.
I thought she was lovely on the kids' baking show -- very
warm and personable. And Valerie is more than a decade
older than TFW, but whatever work she may have had done
must be minimal, because she still looks like herself!
Who knows how far TFW could have gone if she'd been able
to muster up some charm and attentiveness and concern for
others? But you can't fabricate that stuff -- either you've got
it or you don't.
Ooh, did anyone see what Hilary said about DT?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/14/politics/hillary-clinton-wing-ding/index.html
Let's see how low he'll go to get back at her.
How old were the twins for that Taylor Swift concert? The younger a are going to be wanting concerts soon if not now.
My daughter went on that trip also--it was a leadership program, right? Had to have a school recommendation if am recalling correctly.
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They marketed themselves as a leadership program but the truth was they just pulled names from SAT rosters and sent letters to almost everyone telling them they were selected. We were specifically instructed in training we were not allowed to turn down students even though we had to take them through a "interview" process. It was pro forma. If they paid, they went.
It was a complaint a lot of leaders like me had, that it wasn't exclusive like they made it sound, and that that was dishonest. There were some really badly behaved kids in my group who weren't ready to travel. But we still managed just fine, haven't lost one yet!
You know, I've tried to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt. I'd love to have a woman as president in my lifetime. But that knock about Trump's hair makes it look like she's picking a fight with him and has nothing to do with the issues. She knows better. She knows darn well he's going to snap right back at her. Instant front page headlines, right?
She tried ignoring him for awhile and she went straight to the back of the newspaper. Now that she's finally engaging a little bit, suddenly there are the Hilary headlines again. I don't like her no matter how hard I try, I think it's painfully obvious what she's doing, trolling for headlines. She is just like Trump no matter how hard she tries to act like she's above all that. Nonsense.
Sascha @Sassccha 2h2 hours ago
@MarleneMetzler1 @Kateplusmy8 Kate has two of sophomore age - 15 in Oct. Were held back for filming ..
Where do they get this stuff? The twins were never held back. The younger ones were. The non-fans are always about #FACT, but they don't check what they put out there.
She tried ignoring him for awhile and she went straight to the back of the newspaper. Now that she's finally engaging a little bit, suddenly there are the Hilary headlines again. I don't like her no matter how hard I try, I think it's painfully obvious what she's doing, trolling for headlines. She is just like Trump no matter how hard she tries to act like she's above all that. Nonsense.
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I agree. I think she better watch herself with this nonsense, because he's going to come back at her big time with the Whitewater scandal, deleting e-mails and whatever shady stuff he can dig up. I don't think she wants to go there about something so trite as his hair. It's going to tick him off and he will come back swinging.
I guess I'm not the only one who just doesn't trust that woman.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/
NJGal51 said... 51
@Sassccha: @MarleneMetzler1 @Kateplusmy8 Kate has two of sophomore age - 15 in Oct. Were held back for filming ..
Now that's kind of a ridiculous statement. I'm an October baby and the cut off for my school district was September. I was always in the older half of my class due to my birthday. Nothing more, nothing less. The non fans can go overboard at times.
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Yes, way overboard. Unless they live in the area, are school parents, or in some way are affiliated with the school, how would they know if they have friends there, if their classmates have negative feelings about them, or that every child is allowed to go on a field trip? There could be times when there are kids who may not be permitted to go on trips, for one reason or another.
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@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 I can't imagine how they must feel to know they are only kid in class not allowed to go on field trip with classmates
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@Lexis2usc @Kateplusmy8 Kate does zilch to volunteer or even attend school events w/kids. Parents & their kids have very negative feelings.
I remember some time ago that it was posted here that the kids did go on field trips, that Jon is the one who accompanied them, and I also remember when Kate went on a trip and whined about it being boring.
I'm not surprised by Hillary's Trump sniping, she will do or say whatever she thinks is needed to be front and center. I have not forgotten her dirty campaign tactics when she tried to get the DMC nod over Obama. I would love to see a woman as president, just not that woman.
The non-fans are always about #FACT, but they don't check what they put out there. (All This, 64)...
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It doesn't matter to them. Some just make it up as they go.
I remember some time ago that it was posted here that the kids did go on field trips, that Jon is the one who accompanied them, and I also remember when Kate went on a trip and whined about it being boring.
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I think she must be talking about overnight trips .
localyocal said...
"I think she must be talking about overnight trips"
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I agree, and she should have made that clear in her tweet because the non-fans will go wild with it, saying that the kids can never go on any field trips with their class. I really don't think that's true, because we've heard about trips that the kids were on during the day, Kate picking them up late at the bus stop because they were on a field trip, Kate accompanying the kids on a trip and, as someone pointed out, complained about it, and I remember that Jon said that he went on a few trips with them.
The non-fans are always about #FACT, but they don't check what they put out there. (All This, 64)...
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It doesn't matter to them. Some just make it up as they go. 68
That puts them on par with the sheeple.
I meant to say that Jon has 14 regular gigs, several private parties, 7 city and state gigs and charity gigs. I am sure he is doing the charity gigs with others and it will help him in the long run networking and there is nothing wrong getting an appearance fee for doing a charity event.
Even celebrities that play on game shows for their favorite charity get paid.
And some celebrities might love their charity so much that they would add their appearance fee to increase the donation that they won on a game show.
Doesn't pertain to the Gosselins, but in some cases, kids may say their parents won't let them go on a trip, but really maybe they can't afford it. Saying they can't go, may just save them the embarrassment.
The twins were ten going on 11 when they went to see Taylor Swift. When is it the tups' turn?
http://hollywoodlife.com/2011/07/25/kate-gosselin-taylor-swift-concert-newark/
Yes, I can see her whining about the trip, whining that Steve wasn't accompanying her.
Will M & C be getting school issued iPads this year? How are the filters on these iPads?
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It's amazing the opportunities to travel that kids get these days. This was unheard of when I went to school. Maybe in college you studied abroad, but never in grade or high school.
I think it's wonderful
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Yes, it's pretty common for kids to travel these days. I think people recognize how beneficial it is in a global society, and they've figured out how to get great group rates for classes.
I grew up in a small middle class town and public school in the 90's and I had numerous opportunities to travel to Colorado and down south with church, Europe with People to People, and Ottawa, Toronto, and D.C. with class or band.
The year before me band went to Florida and the year before that choir went to Austria! Spanish club went to Spain.
None of the trips were really that expensive what with group rates and grip fundraising, and I remember each and every one of them forever. It was great. She should let her kids do the things that other kids are doing. It's normal, it's good for them, they need to navigate the world without her hovering over them.
Oh and the big trip lots of California kids do is Yosemite in 5th grade. They stay overnight, camp, do nature lessons, etc.
Some of them also do Catalina island overnight in 3rd or 4th grade.
The other common big trip here is Washington D.C. and New York, which is usually schedule for 8th grade.
Annnnnd here comes Trump. He's calling for Clinton to shut down her campaign.
Lol.
redbird said... 77
Yes, I can see her whining about the trip, whining that Steve wasn't accompanying her.
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How do you know that he wasn't with her? lol! She certainly wouldn't have reported this!
Too bad Steve doesn't like macaroni and cheese.
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Or salad.
Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 81
Annnnnd here comes Trump. He's calling for Clinton to shut down her campaign.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/politics/hillary-clinton-snapchat-email-server-donald-trump/
Well, he's right. If she did what the feds are alleging she did, and she's under scrutiny and investigation and these accusations are proven to be true, she has no business running for President.
Aha! C and M are going into 9th grade, upper school. They have tons of class trips but they are expensive! C and M probably wanted to go on at least one..but no way would TFW foot that bill. This must be what she was referring to since Europe was mentioned.
http://www.lancastercountryday.org/ftpimages/622/download/download_1378813.pdf
Well, he's right. If she did what the feds are alleging she did, and she's under scrutiny and investigation and these accusations are proven to be true, she has no business running for President.
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Many other politicians would have been done now. I find it rather irritating that she arrogantly sticks around this long like who me? Why would *I* end my campaign? Well because anybody else in your shoes would have four months ago, that's why.
I thought of a new nickname for Steve: Sacagawea -- Lewis
and Clark's guide and interpreter. He seems to be a constant
presence when TFW has to navigate anything outside of her
own house. Stevagawea? Sacagasteva?
The fans talk about how TFW is a role model, but I worry about
how her daughters perceive this dependence on someone for
even the smallest tasks.
That handout seems to imply tuition for class trips actually isn't just built into the standard tuition as a use it or lose it thing. It implies it's extra.
That handout seems to imply tuition for class trips actually isn't just built into the standard tuition as a use it or lose it thing. It implies it's extra.
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It's the younger kids' field trips that are part of the tuition, as I posted earlier. Upper grades trips are not inexpensive and are not covered by tuition (post 188). I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
I think that when Kate tweeted no school trips, she was referring to the overnight and overseas trips, not day trips for the younger kids. She should have explained that.
Lanc Native said... 88
I think that when Kate tweeted no school trips, she was referring to the overnight and overseas trips, not day trips for the younger kids. She should have explained that.
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This is what Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Aug 14
@MrsMelon35 yay! Glad to know we made it to the UK somehow!Still ‘owe’ my kids a trip there since I won’t let them go on school trips lol!
I think if you just take off the s on trips, it makes sense in context of the handout. The twins wanted to go on the school trip to France, K said no, so she "owes" them a trip. Or maybe she feels TLC does. Note she doesn't mention "owing" them a trip to Nepal, India, China, and Bangladesh; maybe the kids didn't ask to go on those trips.
She may have said "not this year" to the girls, leaving it open as a possibility in later years, and that's what she "owes" them, or she may be against them "getting ahead of her" by going somewhere she wants to go but hasn't been, she may be against trips that TLC doesn't pay for, she may feel there're too young, or she may be against them going anywhere without her, or she may feel if she sends them this year, they'll expect to go every year.
I actually have some sympathy for her on this. I probably would not want to send my grade-9 child on an international trip when there will be similar opportunities for the following 3 years.
I'm going back to my original theory she was saying the kids don't do class trips, like those on the handout, in an effort to see if some sheeple will bite and give her cold hard cash for a trip fund. She ain't putting out for those trips herself.
I actually have some sympathy for her on this. I probably would not want to send my grade-9 child on an international trip when there will be similar opportunities for the following 3 years.
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If she can afford it, which surely she can after all this filming, what's the down side?
It would be really nice to let the girls do something big like that on their own. Without filming, without Kate over their shoulder. Kate gets what KATE wants, why can't they get something they want?
I took 6th graders halfway around the world. They did just fine. It's really not that big of a deal. Things are far too organized these days.
I'm going back to my original theory she was saying the kids don't do class trips, like those on the handout, in an effort to see if some sheeple will bite and give her cold hard cash for a trip fund. She ain't putting out for those trips herself.
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And that is a plausible theory. We are talking about Kate Gosselin here -- grifter extraordinaire. There are still sheep stupid enough to open their wallets and hand it to her, too and she knows it.
And that is a plausible theory. We are talking about Kate Gosselin here -- grifter extraordinaire. There are still sheep stupid enough to open their wallets and hand it to her, too and she knows it.
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After reading Robert's book, I think we don't even know the half of how much fee shit she has been able to get.
After reading Robert's book, I think we don't even know the half of how much fee shit she has been able to get.
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Years ago, somewhere on 15MGS, posters compiled a list of the freebies she accumulated since she started with J&K+8 and it was long list even back then. I can't imagine the length it would be by now. Her one true talent is begging.
Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 91
I actually have some sympathy for her on this. I probably would not want to send my grade-9 child on an international trip when there will be similar opportunities for the following 3 years.
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If she can afford it, which surely she can after all this filming, what's the down side?
It would be really nice to let the girls do something big like that on their own. Without filming, without Kate over their shoulder. Kate gets what KATE wants, why can't they get something they want?
I took 6th graders halfway around the world. They did just fine. It's really not that big of a deal. Things are far too organized these days.
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Maybe she can't easily afford it. If you look at the cost of sending every child every year, you get in excess of $100,000. Maybe that is small change for Kate, as it was for Nigel Wright (Canadian know who and what I mean, other can look it up), but it isn't for many people.
I would also worry about raising entitled, spoiled kids, though that might be less of a consideration for Kate!
This tweeter works at the Fox Berkshire theater in Wyomissing.
xxxxxx @xxxxx · 1h1 hour ago
Gave Kate Gosselin and her kids 2 large popcorns at work today 😂
Seems like Kate took the kids to the movies today. Another bribe? The twins get a MirandaSings concert, the tups get a movie.
Did panic ensue? Is there a riot going on in Wyomissing?
Many other politicians would have been done now. I find it rather irritating that she arrogantly sticks around this long like who me? Why would *I* end my campaign? Well because anybody else in your shoes would have four months ago, that's why.
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Remember Gary and Donna? LOL!! Just a little too much monkey business and that ended his campaign. He had been arrogant enough to challenge the press to follow him around. They did. He was caught.
Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @MrsMelon35 I'm sure the kids love going on family trips & understand about the school trips. :)
Are sheeple really this stupid? Don't answer that...
Harry T Nacious @HarryTNacious 2h2 hours ago
@finndango @TwitTartwif @magjd7 @Sassccha @Lexis2usc @Kateplusmy8 <-- don't forget she's ostracized White Trash in her kids' school
When did this happen?
I think that partly Kate couldn't handle her jealousy if her kids got to go to Europe before she did. It's not fair! (stomps foot) I think that the rest is about control. Day field trips are one thing but a longer trip would involve way too much time with other kids. What if they pick up bad habits like brushing their teeth in the bathroom or eating the amount of food they want? What if they form a mentor/student relationship with a favorite teacher? They could let slip a detail that leads to an investigation.
The other thing is a lot of high school trips (in general, don't know their school well) are tied to special interests. Band, French club, UN club, cheerleading competition, etc. Does she let them do anything like that?
I looked at the twitter of the girl sitting near Kate to see the upside down picture. She later tweeted to thank MirandaSings for a great night of sexual innuendo. Classic.
Those of you who are good at finding pictures, what do you usually search for? And then the links you use often start with www.pbs.tmig or something like that. Why? That's not really a web site.
Remember Gary and Donna? LOL!! Just a little too much monkey business and that ended his campaign. He had been arrogant enough to challenge the press to follow him around. They did. He was caught.
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What a difference a few years make.
Can anyone say Gennifer Flowers?
Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @MrsMelon35 I'm sure the kids love going on family trips & understand about the school trips. :)
Are sheeple really this stupid? Don't answer that..
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That one is particularly slow to the point that it's really sad..
xxxxxx @xxxxx · 1h1 hour ago
Gave Kate Gosselin and her kids 2 large popcorns at work today ��
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Glad to see she took the kids to a movie.... But did purseboy go?
I would also worry about raising entitled, spoiled kids, though that might be less of a consideration for Kate!
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This is what I think Kate wants. She wants her kids to be special- posh trips, tv shows, closing stores and parks, spas, first class treatment, private schooling, organic eating(which, to her, indicates a better than attitude).. Ect ect ect....
Kate doesn't let the kids do summertime activities (sports, camps, ect) because the kids have to WORK during the summer.
If any of the kids want to pursue high school sports kate is putting them at a definite disadvantage-- competitive sports require year round practice and competition.
Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @MrsMelon35 I'm sure the kids love going on family trips & understand about the school trips. :)
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Understand what? Did TFW explain the no school trips?
I actually have some sympathy for her on this. I probably would not want to send my grade-9 child on an international trip when there will be similar opportunities for the following 3 years.
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True, but that's not what she said. There was no "yet" in her statement
Ect ect ect...
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Do you mean etc? lol! Or is ect short for something else, like electroconvulsive therapy (ect) which is sometimes used to cure mental illness? :) Kate could use some electric shocking.
Aggiemom (#103), yep, I think TFW would welcome raising
snooty kids. It's one thing to be discerning, but when it bleeds
over into snobby territory, I think it's a problem.
Remember when the Brady kids sang on the variety show
to earn money for their parents' anniversary gift, and called
themselves The Silver Platters? The G kids would be
The Golden Platters. Wonder what movie they went to,
and how many of the kids went? I watched the news and
there was no stampeding in a PA theater, so hopefully no
one was hurt!
KIAT (96)..."Did panic ensue? Is there a riot going on in Wyomissing?"
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Oh, so that's why the helicopters were out and about today, and why the National Guard was on stand-by alert. I was wondering what was going down! I thought it had something to do with another escaped patient from Wernersville State Hospital, but it was only Kate buying popcorn at the theater.
xxxxxx @xxxxx · 1h1 hour ago
Gave Kate Gosselin and her kids 2 large popcorns at work today ��
Sold them to her, or gave them to her for free?
Maybe I missed a comment. Did she say the tups were at the movies or the twins or everyone? I was hoping some kids might be with Jon this weekend.
Has Zorro been mentioned recently?
What a difference a few years make.
Can anyone say Gennifer Flowers?
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What a mess that was. I think that she included Hillary in her defamation lawsuit.
Do you mean etc? lol! Or is ect short for something else, like electroconvulsive therapy (ect) which is sometimes used to cure mental illness? :) Kate could use some electric shocking.
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I have an ect power switch on my car. I have no idea what it does, and I'm almost afraid to use it. I thought it meant ejection mode, kind of like a pilot in an aircraft..
Lanc Native said... 29
And she has it even easier, as they wear uniforms.
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Six wear uniforms, the twins don't. I would hope that by now, with TLC paying for back to school shopping, that she won't be whining about buying khakis and white shirts.
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That's too bad. The school ends uniforms right when they are most needed.
Katie has lots of cash left. With all she's grifted, some of it tax free, she hasn't had to spend much of what her kids earn. Is school still free for the twins or the six?
Is school still free for the twins or the six?
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When was it ever free for any of them?
As far as not dipping into what the kids earn, nobody except those who have access to that money knows exactly how much she has used, and for what reasons, since according to DOL guidelines, she may withdraw money for their health, education, safety and welfare.
As far as the uniforms, I would believe that the reason those in upper grades don't wear them is because this is the transition for them from middle school to upper school, thus it's something for which to look forward. They are growing up, maturing, and becoming independent, and therefore choosing appropriate dress goes along with that.
Fleecing (114): "When was it ever free for any of them?"
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I don't think that it ever was. In Kate's notes, detailed in Robert's book, she was giddy that the financial aid was approved. If I remember correctly, during the divorce when she was photocopying pages and a picture was taken, you could see her estimated annual costs, and one of them clearly showed "tuition x 8."
Aggiemom09121416 said... 103
I would also worry about raising entitled, spoiled kids, though that might be less of a consideration for Kate!
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This is what I think Kate wants. She wants her kids to be special- posh trips, tv shows, closing stores and parks, spas, first class treatment, private schooling, organic eating . . . .
I'm pretty sure this is all about what Kate wants for herself, which she has no way of getting without using the children. She's the one that needs to feel special. The kids wouldn't know one way or the other. All of these things are what Kate feels entitled to. And you can bet your life she treats herself to all "the best" whether they happen to be around or not. They are the means to her ends.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 112
I have an ect power switch on my car. I have no idea what it does, and I'm almost afraid to use it. I thought it meant ejection mode, kind of like a pilot in an aircraft..
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Is your car a Toyota or Lexus? From the Toyota forums, ECT stands for Electronically Controlled Transmission. When you push the ECT power button, the automatic transmission shifts differently. When you're speeding up, it stays in a lower gear longer, letting the car rev more before it shifts. When you're slowing down, it shifts down to use engine braking. That slows you down faster, saves your brakes, and is safer. In general, it gives the car a "sportier" feel. It may mean less gas mileage, though some people say that for them it doesn't.
I have a Toyota "Sport" model, and I don't have the switch. My car is VERY aggressive about shifting down when you push firmly on the accelerator. It's like it says "Gotta pass this car now, we're gonna die, assume warp speed!" I really like it for highway driving. If I'm going to pass, either on a 4-lane or 2-lane road, I want to get out and get around and get back in my lane, pronto. I HATE driving next to a transport truck, especially those UPS highway trucks with 3 trailers that sway all over the place. The sporty mode does take some getting used to, so you don't shift down (go into warp speed mode) when you don't need or want to.
Try it! But keep a light and steady foot on the accelerator when you do.
The kids have gotten so many trips from TLC, as well as bribes from Kate, it's hard to imagine how a few class trips will spoil them. They'll be just one of 30 or 40 or more, expected to follow rules and to do things without demanding bribes. They can be out and about in a group, not recognized and without Kate demanding all the attention. It's nothing but good for them.
No way those kids are getting to Paris before sKate.
Thanks, Math Girl. I appreciate your research!
It's a Sequoia. I'll try it. I have so many things on my car that I have no idea what to do with them, such as a gear shift thing (kind of like a four-speed transmission that's optional) and something on the left with so many modes (slip differential, I guess for towing other cars out of the sand). All I really want to do is to put it into drive and go! It's a V8, so as you can guess, I've become quite friendly with the folks at the local gas station! I will push that little ECT button tomorrow and see what happens! Now I'm curious.
"I have a Toyota "Sport" model, and I don't have the switch. My car is VERY aggressive about shifting down when you push firmly on the accelerator. It's like it says "Gotta pass this car now, we're gonna die, assume warp speed!"
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lol! Yes, I had a Highlander like that. When it wanted to go, it went like it had a mind of its own.
@Xxxxxxxxx: @Kateplusmy8 I had to share this with you because I'm sure it's something Alexis would love. 🐊 http://twitter.com/Iheartrizzoli/status/632768016132866053/photo/1
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When will these fans get it through their heads that the kids are 11!
Jane said... 110
Maybe I missed a comment. Did she say the tups were at the movies or the twins or everyone? I was hoping some kids might be with Jon this weekend.
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The tweeter just said "kids". But it appears that some of the kids were with Jon.
xxxxx @xxxxxxxxxx · 6h6 hours ago
I just saw the children from john and Kate plus 8 on the boardwalk lol what
xxxxxx @xxxxxxxxx · 4h4 hours ago
The Kate Plus 8 kids were at Wonderland today and I freaked 😂
Wonderland is a pier/amusement part in Ocean City, NJ. She also tweeted a picture and you can see Jon sitting at the table. Is that Mady standing next to Leah?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMgGQwTWsAA_4z2.jpg
So I guess Kate had some of the kids and took them to the movies, and Jon had some of the kids and took them to Wonderland Pier.
Those of you who are good at finding pictures, what do you usually search for? And then the links you use often start with www.pbs.tmig or something like that. Why? That's not really a web site.
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I search for "8 plus Kate" or "Kate plus 8". I found that using "8 plus Kate" is better since there is a tweeter whose name includes "kateplus8" and it avoids seeing all her tweets. "8 plus Kate" will give you any results where people reference "Kate plus 8".
The links to pictures using pbs.twimg.com can be gotten from clicking on the "properties" of a picture. It gives you the URL for the picture only. I use that to show pictures, because the pictures are usually larger and easier to see. Plus it also protects the identity of the tweeter who posted the picture.
Good for Jon on insisting on separating the six for trips and visits with him. It gives them more individual time with him and lets them be singletons not a six pack. If one or two don't want to go somewhere or do something they shouldn't be forced just to make up the party of six.
Thanks KIAT, nice to know some of the kids were with Jon.
I was wondering what would motivate TFW to leave the compound
and actually take some kids to the movies. Now that I know some
of them were having a fun day at the pier with their dad, it makes
more sense that she'd want to do something to compete with that. Instead of "keeping up with the Joneses," maybe TFW was trying
to "keep up with the Jonses." Maybe movies will start working
as currency for the younger kids.
I can't tell if that's Mady next to Leah- if so, then her hair looks colored! Or could just be the light.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 126
I was wondering what would motivate TFW to leave the compound
and actually take some kids to the movies. Now that I know some
of them were having a fun day at the pier with their dad, it makes
more sense that she'd want to do something to compete with that. Instead of "keeping up with the Joneses," maybe TFW was trying
to "keep up with the Jonses." Maybe movies will start working
as currency for the younger kids.
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Bingo! She has to "win". I can't even imagine the bribing that goes on. They're getting old enough to choose who they live with. She'd better come across with some awesome stuff to barter with. So sad, because of all the things those kids have to worry about, they shouldn't have the added "Sophie's Choice".
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMgGQwTWsAA_4z2.jpg
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Why have half the 6 , and who are the older children-- they belong to girlfriend # 'I lost count'"?
Those kids have had a revolving door of nannies, help, laundry people, crew daddies, tv crews, babysitters.. (And let's not forget exiled family members and 1 dog).
Sorry, i don't think taking some of the kids to their fuckety millionth hotel room (in this instance visitation) is a good idea.
Nothing screams more fun than returning from a working vacation with mics shoved in your face to visitation with dad and the dj venue of the week.
These kids need to see their dad at his home--
Do these kids ever have normalcy?? ( I know the answer, but dang!).
I would think these kids can't wait fir school to start-- there is their normalcy-- at least it's a schedule!
Is that Colin in the pic? I don't know what the kids look like to tell them apart.
I wonder if Colin got to go to the movies or was he taking care of the chickens?
So I guess Kate had some of the kids and took them to the movies, and Jon had some of the kids and took them to Wonderland Pier.\\
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But, but, she does it ALL! Jon is not in their lives! She never gets out of the house!!?? I'm so confuseeedddd!!!
Localyocul (#131), lemme 'splain!
You see, TFW has them 99% of the time. That means Jon has
them roughly 3.5 days a year. This must've been one of those
days. And according to the fans, Jon never spends a dime on
them (shiftless loser that he is), so obviously they must bring
all their meals with them!
These kids need to see their dad at his home--
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Why? Kids this age loving going out and about to piers, pizza, minigolf, arcades, etc. All places Jon takes them.
Whatever the kids were doing with their dad yesterday, I know
it wasn't captured by TLC's cameras for public consumption.
And it was only done once -- not take after take at a director's
discretion. They were able to stop for lunch when they felt like
it, or go to the bathroom when they felt like it. They may
have made plans to do one thing, and changed it to something
entirely different at the last minute if they felt like it. Heck,
they were probably even allowed to be in a bad mood if
they felt like it. And at the end of the day, their dad didn't
get a paycheck for it.
Do we know Jon was there on business? Do we know that he is living alone? Until these two questions are answered I'll give him this as a good time for the kids and him, together.
Nothing screams more fun than returning from a working vacation with mics shoved in your face to visitation with dad and the dj venue of the week.
These kids need to see their dad at his home--
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Why does it matter where they are? The thing is that they are NOT working and don't have a camera shoved in their faces. They are with their dad and they probably enjoy being with him, regardless if they are at his home, at the beach, in a hotel, at a venue or wherever. Why should they be at home where there most likely is not much to do? Of course, they could sit there and watch re-runs of their show.
If I were a kid, I'd much rather be on the OC boardwalk than sitting in a room at his house. Weather right now is gorgeous at the beach. Perfect weekend. Ocean temps in the 80s. Great weekend for Jon and the kids, and they can eat Manco pizza if they want to, without her telling them what to eat.. Good for them. School starts in two weeks. Soon enough they'll be sitting at home with her.
Eight is More Than Enough said... 135
Do we know Jon was there on business? Do we know that he is living alone? Until these two questions are answered I'll give him this as a good time for the kids and him, together.
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I guess I'm missing the point here. Why is it important if he was there on business or not, or if he lives alone? He took his kids to OC He's spending time with them and they with him.
Eight is More Than Enough said...135
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Here is the article that says that Jon and his new gf have been living together for the last 8 months. Bet that chapped TFW's backside because how dare him use the Number 8! haha
Oh, and I found this nice picture of Jon and his gf at Musikfest.
https://www.facebook.com/djjongosselin/photos/a.355766274622854.1073741835.355741321292016/404803699719111/?type=1&theater
Strange! At the end of this link it says, 1 & theater. Is that code for Kate and kids at theater? j/k, sorry, I am a CT. (conspiracy theorist)!
Over In TFW's County said... 137
Eight is More Than Enough said... 135
Do we know Jon was there on business? Do we know that he is living alone? Until these two questions are answered I'll give him this as a good time for the kids and him, together.
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I guess I'm missing the point here. Why is it important if he was there on business or not, or if he lives alone? He took his kids to OC He's spending time with them and they with him.
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If he was working that cuts out a huge chunk of time he is supposed to be spending with them. If he lives with someone, most likely his girlfriend, that also changes the time he spends with his kids and the atmosphere of those visits.
Jon posts his DJ dates and venues on his Facebook page and it looks like he took this weekend off. It does appear that he's working steadily in the coming weeks.
If he lives with someone, most likely his girlfriend, that also changes the time he spends with his kids and the atmosphere of those visits.
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If he lives with someone, how does it change the time he spends with them? He's still with his kids whether she is there or not. Should he send her away?
If he lives with someone, most likely his girlfriend, that also changes the time he spends with his kids and the atmosphere of those visits.
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So does Steve, a nanny, a housekeeper, or a BFF visiting from NYC or Michigan.
I don't believe a parent is required to be completely alone with their children at all times to be a good parent. I don't expect it of either Kate or Jon. Maybe they like his girlfriend, and enjoy hanging out with her kids. Maybe they enjoy hanging out with Steve, Deanna, and Jamie. They seem to be fine with all those people.
I am so unhappy with Bob Tushman of Food Network and the Cooking Channel!!
He GAVE SHERRI SHEPARD HER OWN SHOW!!!
Called Holy Cooking. I think she goes to churches and eats what they cook.
Also, she is going back to the View according to essence.com. They say it is confirmed. Nicole Wallace said how she found out she was fired was through the press.
Sherri does not deserve her own cooking show because of the way she acted during the cooking segments on the View. She was gross, disgusting and over the top. She definitely doesn't need to go back on the View. She thinks the earth is flat!
And because she decided to not take responsibility for the child that she had with Lamar and the surrogate.
She is a crazy, lowlife who neglected her own who is special needs child.
She and TFW must of bought the same Teflon at the Teflon Store at the Rising Ashes location!
I assumed the kids tagged along while Jon worked-- if not, then he took the kids away for the weekend after a week long working vacay in FL?
My point is, these kids have to be overwhelmed and exhausted-ish!
We spent our visitation weekends with our parent in a hotel room-- strange rooms, eating in different restaurants, which movie to see THIS time? Going to the mall, it was all just an awkward waste of time-- lots of standing around (just like Jon's kids are doing in that pic).
It's boring. You want to be in a familiar setting, not wondering how to kill more time until its time to eat again (there you can sit snd actually carry on a conversation).
And his living with so many different women is not good for the kids.
(It may sound like I'm a Jon hater, I am not-- but these kids some normalcy, and it appears their only normal is school.
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Interesting take on E-mail Gate and the "professional" wiping clean of her server. Will she worm her way out of this, or will there be consequences? Time will tell...
http://observer.com/2015/08/the-countless-crimes-of-hillary-clinton-special-prosecutor-needed-now/
redbird, 143..."Also, she is going back to the View according to essence.com. They say it is confirmed. Nicole Wallace said how she found out she was fired was through the press."
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That essence article is dated July 27. As of two days ago, Shepherd has not confirmed that she is returning.
http://www.eonline.com/news/686487/sherri-shepherd-says-view-comeback-not-confirmed-as-nicolle-wallace-reveals-she-learned-of-firing-from-the-press
aggiemom, 129..."Sorry, i don't think taking some of the kids to their fuckety millionth hotel room (in this instance visitation) is a good idea.
Nothing screams more fun than returning from a working vacation with mics shoved in your face to visitation with dad and the dj venue of the week."
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Maybe he and the kids think it's a good idea. We're not the parents here. How do you know they were in a hotel room? It could be a day trip. Ocean City isn't half a country away. How do you know he was working this weekend? Good grief, give the man a break. At least a camera crew isn't hanging around them all weekend.
And his living with so many different women is not good for the kids.
(It may sound like I'm a Jon hater, I am not-- but these kids some normalcy, and it appears their only normal is school.
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How many different women has he lived with? He didn't live with Ellen. He lived with Liz, and we don't know that he is living with his latest girlfriend. Has there been anyone other than Liz? I'm out of the loop when it comes to Jon and his living arrangements.
I assumed the kids tagged along while Jon worked-- if not, then he took the kids away for the weekend after a week long working vacay in FL?
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The thing here is that you are assuming, and based on an assumption, he is being criticized for taking the kids away with him. This guy has to walk on eggshells.
There will be plenty of times in the coming months, with cold weather, snow and ice, that they can spend time with their father at his house, or on short local excursions. This is the end of summer. Let them have fun at the beach!
The key for me re: Jon's custodial time is the absence of cameras, boom mikes and crew members. The kids get to enjoy the activity rather than doing takes and retakes. And let's face it, we all get bored from time to time.
It's part of "normal", which these kids experience too little of.
aggiemom09121416 said... 144
I get where you're coming from. Sometimes, kids just don't get to be kids. Every hour of every day has to be structured and scheduled (not that that is the case with the G kids, they spend too much time at home not doing anything but watching reruns of themselves as babies)
I'm hoping this weekend with their Dad was something they talked about and planned for. I hope it wasn't dropped on them the minute they walked in their dad's door. They are vulnerable all the time with their mother and her keeping secrets. I hope Jon would be sensitive to that vulnerability and keep his kids in the loop.
Seeing the pic of Jon with the kids, it triggers unpleasant memories for me regarding visitation weekends. I painfully recall those boring weekends of "what are we going to do this time"-- and if this is the case, I finally understand why twins rarely visit. And I can see that the kids might be overly stimulated from the working vacay-- that's why I thought they would rather have some mediocre down time with their dad in a private setting... But who are the older kids in the pic? The girlfriend's?
I've been out of the G loop for a while, but after living with Hayley didn't he live with the next 2 girlfriends? And he's moved a few times... I am NOT knocking Jon, but he!s constantly changing girlfriends, homes vocations ( last I heard he was gung ho about a restaurant, now it's bring a dj?)
I know that being married to a nut buster like Kate has to distort your brain a little bit but he seems to be sorta all over the place.
I'm glad the kids were away with Jon. I'm not a fan of his shacking up with women and their kids, but Jon's not going to change.
At least the kids have some normalcy without cameras, although they seem to constantly get photographed by everyone with a cell phone.
Thanks fir letting me share a possibly different point of view. :)
( and forgive the typos, I recently acquired- bought, not grifted!- an ipad mini, so it's bern an adjustment going from actual keyboard to typing on a touchscreen)
And when in doubt, blame old age!
(And my incorrectly typing 'ect' instead of 'etc' did prompt some car questions!)
:)
If, on a wonderful summer day when school will be starting soon, and regardless if they just returned from a vacation, I asked my kids if they would rather stay at home or have an end-of-summer beach day on a boardwalk, with pizza, rides, the ocean and sand, they'd be in that car faster than you could say "Let's go surfin' now!"
I've been out of the G loop for a while, but after living with Hayley didn't he live with the next 2 girlfriends?
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I don't recall Jon living with Hailey. They dated, but I'm not sure that they lived together. Of course, I don't keep track of who moves in and out. I think that he lived with her parents, but I don't remember reading that the two of them lived together in his apartment, or cabin, or wherever it was. Of course, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
You really do need to own it aggiemom09121416. You are knocking Jon and his lifestyle. At least he loves his kids.
I've been out of the G loop for a while, but after living with Hayley didn't he live with the next 2 girlfriends?"
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If you are uncertain with whom he lived, or how many women shared his home, then why would you post this..
(114): "And his living with so many different women is not good for the kids."
Sue said... 158
You really do need to own it aggiemom09121416. You are knocking Jon and his lifestyle. At least he loves his kids.
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No, I think Angie is speaking from her perspective. She's entitled to her opinion and I totally get where she's coming from.
Serendipity said... 159
I've been out of the G loop for a while, but after living with Hayley didn't he live with the next 2 girlfriends?"
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If you are uncertain with whom he lived, or how many women shared his home, then why would you post this..
(114): "And his living with so many different women is not good for the kids."
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Jon lived with Hailey in NYC, believe. Then Liz and now the current gf.
I think that's a lot when there are little kids involved.
Yes, I know Jon loves his kids and protects their privacy ;-)
Jon's the way he is, and Kate never dates ( except for TFM although I am still not convinced it's romantic) But who is the better parent? It has nothing to do with their partners; it's a matter of love and acceptance and involvement with the kids' needs put first.
I agree Aggie is entitled to post her opinion as we all are.
Then Liz and now the current gf.
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Is he living with the current girlfriend?
Why the nit-picking on Jon and his lifestyle, just because a photo of him with the kids at the beach was posted? He took them away, he wants to be with them, and there is no camera crew following them around. If this works for Jon and the kids, then why is this under scrutiny? He's the parent here.
No, I think Angie is speaking from her perspective. She's entitled to her opinion and I totally get where she's coming from.
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No, Angie is making assumptions. Of course everyone is entitled to opinions, but when those opinions are based on assumptions rather than facts, that's where one might take exception to an opinion or perspective.
She was assuming that the kids were dragged around to his job this weekend, when we didn't really know if this was a business trip for him, and then his lifestyle is being critiqued when it's not even known how many women he is has lived with, or how many girlfriends the kids have been around, or if he and his current girlfriend are roommates.
P.J. (160): "No, I think Angie is speaking from her perspective. She's entitled to her opinion and I totally get where she's coming from."
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Who is Angie? I don't see any posts from an "Angie."
I think I need a drink.
Tucker's Mom said... 161
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Yes, wasn't there that business of a staged crime against Jon's possessions in their shared apt.and Hailey was the culprit? I may have remembered it wrong.
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What kind of dog food do you ladies feed your pets? My pup seems to have allergies to something! She started on Fromm Family Gold as her shelter recommended, switched to Iams ( vet's advice) and then to Royal Canin?? I hear a lot of talk about grain-free food being better?
I just bathed her in coconut/oatmeal dog shampoo, and she has taken Benadryl.No fleas. She came to us scratching but it has become worse.
wow. Aggiemom respectfully posted her opinion. Bashing her is un-called for. I happen to agree with her. I have been a single parent for 18 years and never lived with a boyfriend, I would have had to marry someone first, to lead by example. I have seen many others move in together too quickly and of course things fall apart, but when children are involved, I believe in being very careful.
Aggiesmom, come sit by me under this verandah and watch the walking dead marathon, no worries, I will tell you when to look away.
Puhlenty of rumspringa flowing, now that I figured out how to rig up my maroon straws, lol
franky
Who is Angie? I don't see any posts from an "Angie."
I think I need a drink.
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I'll join you. As soon as I get out of the POOL, I'm going under the veranda. What's on tap today?
Jon lived with Hailey in NYC, believe. Then Liz and now the current gf.
I think that's a lot when there are little kids involved.
Yes, I know Jon loves his kids and protects their privacy ;-)
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So this is a plethora of women? The sheep maintain that there is a new flavor every month, and we know that's not true. Speaking of the fans, are they defending Kate for not allowing the kids to go on school trips? Let me guess. They're saying that Kate was just joking. That's probably the best they can come up with.
Lynn, have a straw and a draw from my personal blueberry barrel
franky
Formely I feed Core Wellness they have lots of different flavors and my dog laps it up.
That doesn't stop any of you from criticizing every move Kate makes.
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Kate's been selling her parenting to the masses for a decade now, on TV and social media. We are asked to buy her product, her parenting. She's fair game.
When Jon starts up selling his parenting again, he will be fair game too.
Admin, err...assistant-to-admin? Did blogger eat my last two posts?
franky...errr spike
Is he living with the current girlfriend?
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Yes, reportedly after dating her a whole month.
Aggiemom...post 153 said
Seeing the pic of Jon with the kids, it triggers unpleasant memories for me regarding visitation weekends. I painfully recall those boring weekends of "what are we going to do this time"-- and if this is the case, I finally understand why twins rarely visit. And I can see that the kids might be overly stimulated from the working vacay-- that's why I thought they would rather have some mediocre down time with their dad in a private setting... But who are the older kids in the pic? The girlfriend's?
I've been out of the G loop for a while, but after living with Hayley didn't he live with the next 2 girlfriends? And he's moved a few times... I am NOT knocking Jon, but he!s constantly changing girlfriends, homes vocations ( last I heard he was gung ho about a restaurant, now it's bring a dj?)
I know that being married to a nut buster like Kate has to distort your brain a little bit but he seems to be sorta all over the place.
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first paragraph she said IF that is the case
no need to jump down her throat for posting her opinion in a respectful manner as per all 4, count'em, 4 rules
I get what you are saying aggie
franky
Kate's been selling her parenting to the masses for a decade now, on TV and social media. We are asked to buy her product, her parenting. She's fair game.
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And as long as Kate continues to market her kids as commodities, using them to support herself and her lifestyle which she refuses to relinquish, she's more than fair game. She once said in an interview that they have put themselves out there, so yes, it is the public's business. As such, yes, she can be criticized. After all, she gave her consent.
Some just don't seem to be able to understand that, or simply don't want to.
Some just don't seem to be able to understand that, or simply don't want to.
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And they continue to insist Jon should be held to the same standards as Kate. They are two different people who have taken very different paths with their children's privacy. They are differently situated, and the one who is keeping his children's private lives private not deserve the same level of criticism regarding how he handles those lives no more than you would set up a soap box and start ranting about somebody you saw in the grocery store.
franky said... 174
Admin, err...assistant-to-admin? Did blogger eat my last two posts?
franky...errr spike
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Perhaps the assistant went on vacation. After all, she hasn't been anywhere in six whole months! Just ask admin!
Blowing...Blueberry rumspringa in honour of our crops being so bountiful, And I think Aggiemom posted as Angie, or maybe someone else did, but I do remember an Angie on this thread, darned song plays in my head every time I see it. I need another rumspringa, lol
franky
There will be plenty of times in the coming months, with cold weather, snow and ice, that they can spend time with their father at his house, or on short local excursions. This is the end of summer. Let them have fun at the beach!
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It might just be a Northeast thing, but when the weather was nice we were out every weekend and a ton during the week too. Even as children. Doing exactly the sort of things Jon does with his kids. Beaches, piers, arcades, golf. Also swimming, icecream, Shopping, amusement parks, sporting events, and on and on.
The thing is winters are LONG in the Northeast. You really do have to spend a lot of time indoors for much of the year.
I daresay I was much more eager to go out in the sunshine doing something, anything, when I lived in the Northeast, then I ever have been living in warmer climates where there's no fear of being cooped up for the next nine months.
If kids are standing around, it might be because they are hot, tired, or just want to move on to the next thing. It doesn't necessarily mean they didn't want to go out, or are unhappy with their father. Kids are kids.
The thing is winters are LONG in the Northeast. You really do have to spend a lot of time indoors for much of the year.
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Last winter was the worst! It just never ended and was mentally draining.
DH and I were just diagnosed with Vitamin D deficiency.
I am spending a LOT of time at the pool this year!
The one girl tup looked bored and pissed in the recent photo with Jon, and I wondered if it was because people see them and whip out their cell phones and start snapping pics.
For that, I totally blame Kate.
It must suck to have that happen to them out in public.
Interesting take on E-mail Gate and the "professional" wiping clean of her server. Will she worm her way out of this, or will there be consequences? Time will tell...
http://observer.com/2015/08/the-countless-crimes-of-hillary-clinton-special-prosecutor-needed-now/
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This is getting insane. It's beyond just why is this woman still in the election? It's evolved into why is this woman not locked up? Teflon!
OT..re: dog food
I have always fed mine pedigree pal, and they live a long healthy life. My Keyla is a black Lab who turned 14 Aug. 1st and is spry and no grey, but mouting like crazy
franky
This is getting insane. It's beyond just why is this woman still in the election? It's evolved into why is this woman not locked up? Teflon!
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When I see her in previous footage talking about how there was nothing top secret in her emails, you know, she was just shooting the breeze with Chelsea, I think my head is going to explode.
The nerve to tell bald-faced lies is scary.
Like Kate!
When I see her in previous footage talking about how there was nothing top secret in her emails, you know, she was just shooting the breeze with Chelsea, I think my head is going to explode.
The nerve to tell bald-faced lies is scary.
Like Kate!
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I remember one of the very first interviews she gave if not the first after this first broke. It was like five months ago. Watch it. Her body language pretty much hit all the marks of a liar. She was extremely defensive and frankly, being a little shit about it to very reasonable questions from reporters.
I want a woman for president. But not this woman. She's a shady liar and sociopath with no remorse and she needs to go away.
I remember one of the very first interviews she gave if not the first after this first broke. It was like five months ago. Watch it. Her body language pretty much hit all the marks of a liar. She was extremely defensive and frankly, being a little shit about it to very reasonable questions from reporters.
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Yes, how DARE you question Madame Hillary and impugn her impeccable character!
I want a woman for president. But not this woman. She's a shady liar and sociopath with no remorse and she needs to go away.
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I wanted Condy Rice to run.
I don't think Condy wants this job. Not anytime soon.
The problem with being president is that anyone who SHOULD be president isn't crazy enough to run for president! LOL! So we're left with a bunch of nut jobs, because nobody in their right mind wants this job.
franky said... 185
OT..re: dog food
I have always fed mine pedigree pal, and they live a long healthy life. My Keyla is a black Lab who turned 14 Aug. 1st and is spry and no grey, but mouting like crazy
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Love it!
We change up our wet food a lot. We buy the grain-free, no by product brands like Wellness and Core.
Purina actually has a new wet food that is great quality and about 1/2 the price of other brands. It's called "Beyond".
I bought it in a pinch at the grocery store and am quite impressed.
Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 190
I don't think Condy wants this job. Not anytime soon.
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Yup, she's one smart cookie in many ways, including going back to a sane life after serving for Dubya.
Carly Fiorina seems like one smart and tough cookie.
OT...
Tucker's Mom said... 182
The thing is winters are LONG in the Northeast. You really do have to spend a lot of time indoors for much of the year.
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Last winter was the worst! It just never ended and was mentally draining.
DH and I were just diagnosed with Vitamin D deficiency.
I am spending a LOT of time at the pool this year!
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Good news for us over the 40th Meridian, winter like 1997-8 is expected back, strongest El-Nino evah. Stock up on candles and BBQ fuel, we are gonna need it
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=el+nino+2015&FORM=VIRE2#view=detail&mid=590F9296482B65336980590F9296482B65336980
franky
another OT. every time I see the word frankly I chuckle to myself, as Admin just did
frankly, being a little shit about it ...lol
does that make me a narcissist? Like k8 when she sees 8?
lol
franky
Amen Admin...190
Amen
that goes for Canada too, IMO
franky
She once said in an interview that they have put themselves out there, so yes, it is the public's business. As such, yes, she can be criticized. After all, she gave her consent.
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Yes, indeed. And since she said it's our business, Kate, honey, you take the good with the bad, not just the praise and kowtowing from the sheeple. Or would that be sheeptowing? If there is criticism involved, well, that goes with the territory.
I must say, though, that I sometimes think that the poking can get carried away, not only here but on her timeline from her non-fans who seem to just throw things out there, fact or fiction, to see what sticks as gospel.
Yes, admin, winters here can be nasty. I just read the forecast from the Old Farmers Almanac. It's supposed to be brutal. I'm heading off to the beach for summer's last gasp.
"This is getting insane. It's beyond just why is this woman still in the election? It's evolved into why is this woman not locked up? Teflon!"
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I have no idea. Trump may be a narcissist, but this woman is as bananas as they come. This is just my opinion, but I think that from Day One, when her husband was elected, she saw herself as the first woman President, and by gosh, she's in this for the duration, come hell or high water. I don't trust her any farther than I could throw her, and that isn't far. She does have balls, though.
"The problem with being president is that anyone who SHOULD be president isn't crazy enough to run for president! LOL! So we're left with a bunch of nut jobs, because nobody in their right mind wants this job."
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I really like this!
My Keyla is a black Lab who turned 14 Aug. 1st and is spry and no grey, but mouting like crazy
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Who is he or she mounting? :)
Yes, admin, winters here can be nasty. I just read the forecast from the Old Farmers Almanac. It's supposed to be brutal. I'm heading off to the beach for summer's last gasp.
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We're going to the beach for a long weekend in October, then probably visit the in-laws in Florida in Feb/March, then the OBX next May.
I am scheduling warmth and sunshine regularly so I don't get SAD this winter!
Last winter was the worst! It just never ended and was mentally draining.
DH and I were just diagnosed with Vitamin D deficiency.
I am spending a LOT of time at the pool this year!
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Oh, geez, Tucker's. It was every other day and it never ended. Just when we thought we were in the clear for a few days, nope, it was the snow, sleet and freezing rain that just kept coming and coming. Every morning I had to set the alarm clock early to check the road conditions/web cams/accident reports to see if I should even venture out. There was no escaping it.
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