Friday, April 18, 2014

Five important lessons from 'The Armstrong Lie'

"The truth in all this is hard. Such a huge number of people wanted to believe so bad, that they hated anyone who didn't believe, and hated anyone who questioned it."




The Armstrong Lie is a documentary chronicling Lance Armstrong's comeback tour. The documentary had completed most of its filming when Lance's lies were exposed and he was subsequently banned from the sporting world. The filmmaker then went back to the cutting room floor and re-edited the film to incorporate the story of a dramatic fall from grace.

Here are five lessons to be learned from his powerful work:

1. Lying catches up eventually.

This is an obvious one. Lance was described by many as a gifted storyteller, able to craft a careful and compelling lie to sell products, and himself. If anyone was equipped to deceive, it was him. Lies piled up upon lies so effortlessly for the star that some friends said they didn't think he even knew he was lying. But a house built on sand will eventually fall, and so too did Lance's deceitful empire.

2. Suing can't always make your problems go away.


Sometimes the nice guy
finishes first in the end.
Lance used his incredible wealth and power to try to make his critics shut up, often suing or threatening lawsuits, and for many people it worked and they crawled into a black hole and disappeared. But Lance's former teammate, Frankie Andreu, and Frankie's wife Betsy, were determined to get the truth out there. They had nothing to lose. Frankie had already confessed his own wrongdoing, admitting he used performance enhancing drugs during several races, and he was too old to get back into the sport anyway. The Andreus also felt very burned by Lance. They felt that Lance's continued insistence on sticking to his lies when Frankie and many others had long ago owned up to what they did wrong, was perpetuating a dark cloud over the cycling world. Lance also used to be their close friend, and they felt betrayed that he would contradict their story and smear their names when they knew they were telling the truth (Betsy once accidentally found a cooler filled with banned substances in Lance's bus). Betsy especially was a woman of principles who deeply resented cheaters and liars. Lance didn't understand someone caring more about their principles than their money, because Lance is, quite obviously, without principles. 

When Armstrong realized the Andreus weren't going to back down, he upped the ante by having some of his people threaten them. Even that didn't work. Lance also orchestrated campaigns to shut others up, like his former friend Jonathan Vaughters. Lance eventually apologized to Betsy, and whether it was sincere (many viewers will think it's not) it was an apology she accepted graciously. Betsy, with all her courage and determination, as well as her penchant for forgiveness, emerges from the documentary a key reason the house of cards fell, and the voice of morality. She is a modern day hero and whistleblower.

3. Your haters may have a point. 

Armstrong chose to frame his critics as haters and liars, and tried to get rid of them through intimidation and lawsuits. Much of the media was reluctant, and scared, to believe the critics. However in the end the critics were right. If a bunch of people are jumping up and down trying to explain that something is just not the way it seems, they just may be on to something.

4. Quitting while you're ahead is often a good thing.

Quite simply, Lance got greedy. Three or four first place finishes weren't enough, he wanted more. Most Lance historians agree that had he simple stopped at the top of his game, none of this ever would have come out.

5. Journalists should never be fans too

This reminded us so much of Kate Coyne and her odd defense of all things Kate Gosselin. The filmmaker admitted he was a fan of Lance, and set about to make a documentary about his hero. The fi
Kate Coyne
lm was almost complete before the filmmaker finally got a clue that the house of cards was falling. Perhaps being so enamored with the guy prevented him from seeing the truth. As a result, he had to tell the story in hindsight. Had he been willing to open his eyes to his hero, he could have become the greatest whistleblower of them all and a hero himself. He was too busy being a fan to realize he had a Pulitzer story within his grasp. A journalist should never become so captivated by their famous subjects or the story they are telling that they miss the truth.

The Armstrong Lie is available on Netflix, Redbox, and many other outlets.

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lukebandit said...

Wow, ADMIN! What a post! Very well written! The similarities between the bike king and the evil queen are astounding.

PatK said...

Yay! New post! Thanks, Admin!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Thank you Luke!

It really blew me away how much his tactics resembled Kate's when this all started to unfold. The documentary sheds even more light on the similarities, especially with the malicious lawsuits.

I can only conclude that Lance and Kate must both be on the same spectrum in terms of why they are "different" than normal people. Narcissism, sociopathy, personality disorder, I'm not sure. What's telling is that the documentary made it clear Lance has been like this for a very long time. It was not fame that made him this way, he was always a prick. I believe the same goes for Kate.

Perhaps their misdeeds are not on the same playing field but their M.O. is exactly the same. And they both took a mighty fall IMO, in the end. You can only do this for so long.

I've had this post in the can for awhile and since there's not too much going on otherwise and people wanted a new post I fired it out. Do watch the documentary if you get a chance!

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

Thank you, Admin, not only for the wonderful blog, but for this excellent post. I've been reading/lurking for going on a year. That I finally took the initiative to do a search for more info on TFW led me here which surely has given me more understanding as to why the public especially has turned a blind eye to her horrific "mothering" and so forth.
Again I thank you and everyone else here who make wonderful words flow into thoughts and practical ideas which have certainly formed
understanding for me and no doubt so many others.

silimom said...

Kate has definitely fallen but with a stint on CA and a new TLC special, her star appears to be on the rise again.

I can't help but wonder if Jon's recent returns to reality tv didn't help spark renewed interest in her? If Jon had just kept his life private, would she have these opportunities now? We'll never know, and it's a moot point now anyway, but I have wondered if there was a connection.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Slimom I think it's a fair point that whether they intend it or not they both sort of keep each other out there. Again, what people loved was Jon and Kate so anytime a situation can be framed as Jon vs Kate there is more interest. I know there are some people here who think they may even both be in on something. I don't believe that at all, but I don't think it's a completely ridiculous notion either.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Actually what I do believe is Kate will sometimes bring Jon up with some or other petty complaint because she knows it will guarantee a headline. Quite pathetic. Why not tell your lawyer? What's radar gonna do?

Jeremy said...

In the spirit of clarifying a "lie" that appeared in the last post, Geraldo graduated from University of Arizona. Hardly an Ivy. And he got his law degree from Brooklyn Law School. His educational resume is pretty weak.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Why not tell your lawyer? What's radar gonna do? 7

Radar? Publicity. Lawyer, not so much.

JoyinVirginia said...

Thanks for the new post admin!
Also, thanks to this blog, when Marty Singer appeared with director Bryan Singer to state they have proof the accusations against the director are false and they will counter sue, I knew who Marty Singer was! And I understood just what it all meant! Marty Singer is not going to say he has proof unless he has it, he is not going to say they will counter sue unless he us ready to go to court. You learn so much from this blog!

Rhymes with Witch said...

OT. Does anyone else watch reruns of Modern Family on USA? It's laugh out loud funny and my sense of humor is lacking these these days for very personal reasons.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


In the spirit of clarifying a "lie" that appeared in the last post, Geraldo graduated from University of Arizona. Hardly an Ivy. And he got his law degree from Brooklyn Law School. His educational resume is pretty weak.


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It wasn't a lie. He went to those schools but he also did postgraduate work at the University of Pennsylvania. That is indeed an ivy league school.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Also, thanks to this blog, when Marty Singer appeared with director Bryan Singer

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I heard this the other day and keep forgetting to bring it up!

Well how fitting, Marty Singer defends Kate Gosselin, and entertainment industry child molesters who prey on 16 year old boys. You know the sort of people we have been warning could easily have access to the Gosselins kids.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Why not tell your lawyer? What's radar gonna do? 7

Radar? Publicity. Lawyer, not so much.

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Right. Exactly my point. I think now and again, when she's feeling ignored in the media, she brings him up because she knows it's a sure thing she'll get a headline out of it. It's sad. She hates him, but she still wants to call upon him when she needs him.

Lanc Native said...

Jeremy (8)...

Admin said (in previous thread):
Geraldo's resume is astounding. I think he's got like five advanced degrees, lol. He went to UPenn, an Ivy League.

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Indeed he did. Honest. No lie, and last I checked, UPenn most definitely is Ivy. His resume is nothing to sneeze at. Academically, he's no dummy.

Over And Out said...

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 57m
When kateplusmy8 Bitter Busybodies stand b4 judge in @BullyVille lawsuit will they finally understand difference between criticize & libel?

Now who is he suing? I can't keep up with this...!!!

canadianmom1 said...

@ rhymes 11

I just discovered Modern Family about 6 months ago and I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!! Mitchell and Cam are hilarious, but I think Phil is my favorite. He is just so darn cute!

That show is my new favorite and I've been binge watching it for the last month or so.

Anonymous said...

The similarities between Armstrong and Kreider are chilling. Funny, I said a very long time ago that Armstrong was cheating. I also saw Kreider for who she was, nearly from the beginning. My gut instincts are rarely wrong.

PJ

ncgirl said...

Bethany Frankel who was on one of the Housewife shows and her ex have been fighting for custody of their daughter. Now the judge has ordered a psychiatric evaluation for the 3 year old:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/04/bethenny-frankel-jason-hoppy-divorce-daughter-doctor-evaluation-custody/?utm_source=tw-bethennyfrankel&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

foxy said...

For entertainment I have gone over to Fired Just Like Kate twitter time line. This person is really a riot.

And Lance Armstrong sued innocent people and he won the law suits. Karma bit his but though and he has to repay nearly every cent he was given. Good enough. He had no shame in the face when he was doing all of his shams and hurt so many people along the way. Look at him now. He is disgraced and no longer a hero.

AuntieAnn said...

Over And Out said... 16

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 57m
When kateplusmy8 Bitter Busybodies stand b4 judge in @BullyVille lawsuit will they finally understand difference between criticize & libel?

Now who is he suing? I can't keep up with this...!!!

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I see that bvfiles blog has been suspended due to violation of terms of service. What the heck happened there?

Call Me Crazy said...

TFW Did Everybody Wrong - Hi and welcome! Glad you felt comfortable enough to come out of lurkdom and start posting.

Rhymes with Witch - I'm sorry for any personal troubles you are having. I hope all is well soon.

Mrs. Malaprop and Hoosier Girl - It is so nice to hear from you again.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Marty Singer is also representing the Kardashians who are being sued by Robert Kardashian's widow. Geez that guy is everywhere he must have a freaking great life in LA! The widow is being represented by Arnold Peter.
Didn't Marty Singer also go to Brooklyn Law school ?

Question of the day: why do I know all this shit?? Who cares!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I find the Lance Armstrong story strangely inspirational as corny as that sounds. Yes he hurt a lot of people financially and emotionally. He was a cheater and a liar and people gave millions to his charity based on his lies. A few people knew the truth, and slowly, methodically, they began exposing that truth. Even in the face of enormous opposition from one of the most powerful athletes on the planet, they kept going until the public acknowledged the truth and justice was served.

It's a story of not giving up when the truth is on your side. A story of morality winning in the end, no matter how long the row to hoe is. It's applicable to Kate for sure, but so many other situations too we see every day. I really found Betsy particularly moving. She has three children, and some day those children will be old enough to understand this. And I hope they realize what she did someday and are proud of her.

That's what really makes your kids proud. Standing up for something that really matters, like integrity. Not silly twitter accounts, internet outings, or an ex reality star's right to make a fool of herself.

Starz22 said...

Excellent post...

#5 Journalist should never be fans, is spot on.

Once the people reporting "kate" see her for what she is,then all the OMG she's a single mom doing it all on her own and for the kid's stop.

As for her being on CA. It has been made clear that the show is sinking. DT is trying what ever he can to get ratings. So after years of saying NO to her he told her YES. Sorry donald...I don't believe an abusive mother of 8, who's a bitch from hell is going to pull you'r ass out of the fire. Try again!

Jen said...

AuntieAnn the blog is on it's way back as mcgibneywatch.blogspot . com

the fans started cheering a little too soon. Haha!

AuntieAnn said...

That's what really makes your kids proud. Standing up for something that really matters, like integrity. Not silly twitter accounts, internet outings, or an ex reality star's right to make a fool of herself.

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You reminded me of a quote by H. Jackson Brown Jr. (Life's Little Instruction Book author)

"Live so that when your children think of fairness, caring, and integrity, they think of you."



JoyinVirginia said...

Rhymes with witch, Modem Family is hilarious! Clair is just such a real character, and so funny with Phil.
Another series in reruns almost every day is Big Bang Theory, and I love that. The character development over the years is what keeps it fresh. Hilarious!

AuntieAnn said...

Jen said... 26

AuntieAnn the blog is on it's way back as mcgibneywatch.blogspot . com

the fans started cheering a little too soon. Haha!

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Thanks Jen. McGibney watch eh? Speaking of integrity, there's a guy without any. What a creep.

Starz22 said...

Been watching Modern Family from the start. Great show...altho I can't stand Phil or Clair.../shrug The rest of the cast is awesome.

Anonymous said...

Auntie Ann..27
Spot on, and thank you

I had to out myself to dd recently, and it has been chewing me up inside. But I know I did the right thing and will again.

Now she understands so much more and was shocked at what she found out. But told me she was grateful.

I wonder if TFW will ever move mountains for her children, regardless of the cost.

LOL, rhetorical, of course

franky

lukebandit said...

Thank you, Admin! I think I am going to watch it. I have Netflix through my tv till June through ds & dil from Christmas. Then if I want to watch something on NF, I can use my other ds's acct.

kate needs to dump Steve and get with Lance. What a juggernaut couple they would make! hahahaha
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 7
Actually what I do believe is Kate will sometimes bring Jon up with some or other petty complaint because she knows it will guarantee a headline. Quite pathetic. Why not tell your lawyer? What's radar gonna do?

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What's radar going to do?
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Cut her a check. Radar and others that hand her money, KNOW how to help her! hahaha


FlimsyFlamsy said...

I think another similarity between Lance and TFW is that they each have something that has kept people more sympathetic than necessary. Lance with his cancer, and Kate with her "litter" of children. It's something they could hide behind -- a kind of buffer.
Only a monster would criticize people with such burdens.

Thanks for the new post, Admin! And nice to see some old names returning, and some new ones joining the fun.

lukebandit said...

Geraldo may have had a couple of blunders along the way, but does anyone remember the documentary he did on the horribly crowded, pits of hell Willowbrook State School? He won a Peabody Award for it.

I remember a short clip of the naked children and running amuck, sliding on the floor, dirty, underfed. I read about it on Wiki and it is heartbreaking. He reported on it in 1972 and it finally shut down in 1987! 15 years later. They even had a former guard housed there that was convicted of kidnapping and killing a little girl or I don't know how old she was. She was buried on the grounds of the school.

Then he is locked up in there, around children! What idiots!

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School

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When the story started breaking about the young actor accusing the director of child abuse, I was going to post about it being a future post when more info came out. If the A-listers are ever named who were at that party, wow. I believe the director is guilty. But what I can't understand is why did he keep going to the parties? Did they threaten him? Force him to go? I remember reading that he was told they woul crush him, something like that.

Where were his parents???

Rhymes with Witch said...

Joy 28
I agree about Big Bang Theory.
I just happened to be watching a rerun of Modern Family when I posted. Credit to my interest in both goes to my brother and sil.
Crazy - thanks. I just need time. This blog provides a great distraction with the humor and OT.
I still worry about the kids but I agree with Joy - Kate is boring.

Jane Doe said...

regarding Geraldo's education: graduated University of Arizona, Brooklyn Law school, did some post doctoral work at University of PA, but actually the Ivy league school he graduated from was Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism. I had thought it was odd that he jumped right from law school into reporting so I used sources other than Wikipedia. Not that it matters, but I have always liked him and found his views refreshing.

The Empress Was Stripped Bare-Nekkid said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 24
I find the Lance Armstrong story strangely inspirational as corny as that sounds. Yes he hurt a lot of people financially and emotionally. He was a cheater and a liar and people gave millions to his charity based on his lies. A few people knew the truth, and slowly, methodically, they began exposing that truth. Even in the face of enormous opposition from one of the most powerful athletes on the planet, they kept going until the public acknowledged the truth and justice was served.


Thanks for another great topic, Admin! I see in Lance Armstrong and TFW's stories a lot of similarities with that of Tiger Woods'. Ego-driven, all of them. They preyed on people's sympathies, exploited their vulnerabilities, and were shameless (relentless…) in their lies. TFW hasn't been fully exposed yet, but I feel certain it will happen to her, too.

And as for the gullible fans and press, well…! People believe what they want to believe, even when their eyes and other senses paint a very different story.

lukebandit said...

I went to twitter in the middle of the night, haha, and looked at the new Miloain'tJack twitter line.

OH, MY LANTA!!! I was laughing SO HARD, I could barely breathe, tears, I can't believe this! Insanity, mayhem and chaos all wrapped up into one! I thought the nurse supervisor was going to somehow hear me down the hall! I don't have a lights out man here. My sons would take care of him! haha

To the poster who said it is hilarious, you got that right! And thank you for posting it!

And some of the tweets are going to The Donald. One said about kate, she da touch the cotton candy p hair! I am surprised The Donald hasn't given Penn The Wrath of Death on him!

It is absolutely deliciously funny, because we all know how kate is, a guilty pleasure, as long as the kids are out of it!

I wonder if Robert knows who this character is! hahaha

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi Luke bandit! I am a huge fan of the X-Men franchise, so the accusations against Bryan Singer the director caught my attention. Especially since, the accuser had many years to bring this up, why now when a big publicity push for the next X-Men film is about to start? The directors denial and claims he was in Toronto doing pre production for the first X-Men film sounds very plausible. we will have to see what evidence comes out. Right now it seems like both accuser and accused are trying to get a judgment in the.court of public opinion. That matters, but what really matters is what can be proven in a court of law.

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

Thank you for the welcome Crazy.

Lance Armstrong has long interested me so when I began reading about the cheating issues surrounding him, my eyes perked up all because of Betsy's reasonable yet credible efforts to bring the truth of who and what Lance is to the world of biking.

It appears that Admin and RH have also done what they can to expose another narcissitic bully, TFW.

Then yesterday I saw/read where Kim Novak stepped out to reveal that Donald Trump shamed and bullied her about her appearance at the awards ceremony. DT is as he is just as "they" all seem to be yet it seems to me that none of these driven-to-be-number-one people ever feel even a modicum of shame for their actions and/or conduct.

Why? That bent in the mind thingy seems to work quite well for them.
My narcissistic bully thrived upon humiliating me even in public if that was available, because to win, to appear "cute" and witty in the face of any situation is gonna get them to the top at least in their minds.

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

I'm back.........Again.

I do love humor so when someone posted about FiredJustLikeKate, I looked at Kate's TL (thanks to someone who has posted that for us who are not on social media); and all I can say is LOL LOL. Too funny!

May I ask, please, even thought I'm sure it has been addressed before? Why oh why does TFW permit the garbage I see on her TL?
Do other Twitter people keep their TL "clean"?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

#41, I'll take a crack at your question! And welcome!

I think TFW permits the insanity because shutting Twitter down would mean losing the IV-drip of attention. I think it's worth it to her to have the crazies because it scans with her "poor me I'm bullied" agenda.
And when people start bashing her ex? It's like Christmas morning.

Formerly Duped said...

I think Modern Family has a perfect ensemble cast. The new Lily is fantastic, very dry wit in her delivery of lines.I like a half-hr show; sometimes that's enough. I find this perfect, and really hilarious.

TLC stinks said...

Silimom, I don't believe Kate's star is rising with CA and the TLC follow up. CA probably filmed it's last season and TLC probably has some contractual agreement to fulfill with Kate as part of her severance. She really hasn't done that much since TLC canned her and because we keep up on this blog, we are more aware of her antics than the general public. She has barely gotten work but I suspect she will continue popping up once or twice a year on some crappy show.

ITA she hides behind the kids. How dare anyone criticize a single mom raising her kids ALL by herself!!! She needs money!!!

Lies always have a way of bubbling out. It's already started with Kate. As her monetary power fades, her threats will be meaningless. Too late for Robert. I think he wanted to make a name for himself outing her but didn't take the time or seek counsel to protect himself. I suspect everything has been turned over to her. He's done but there are others who know the truth and eventually they will speak of what they witnessed. It will happen just like it happened to Lance Armstrong.

TLC stinks said...

Tamara Tattles Reams ROL:

... What I know for sure is that Radar Online has no source at all for Celebrity Apprentice. I try not to call out other sites, but Radar Online really likes to steal my stories. And I am about to post some HUGE spoilers I have been working on for weeks and I know that they will appear as an EXCLUSIVE on Radar Online within hours.So before I do that, Let me point out the issues with ROL reporting on this topic so far. In fact, I should probably go look to see what they are saying because other than a couple of rumors I have seen attributed to them elsewhere I might be missing something. Okay. It looks to me like a hatchet job on Brandi. Oh how convenient. Let’s make up shit about someone that everyone hates at the moment. The problem with that is, people with real sources know Brandi is doing well.

Here is the shit ROL is slinging.

1. ROL says Brandi is in trouble for drinking and taking Xanax on the show and was sent home to get herself together.

Complete horseshit. Brandi is doing very well actually. She plays well with most. And continues to prove herself. If I am saying that, you know it is true. What she does after filming I have no idea. But she is playing a great game.

Verdict BULLSHIT.

2. ROL Brandi is not getting along with Vivica (This is from today).

Um, these two have not been on the same team for almost two weeks. They may not like each other but they spent less than 2 weeks together.

Verdict BULLSHIT.

3. ROL says Brandi and Kenya are fighting!

The sky is blue! Exclusive sources say Brandi says Kenya has a fat butt! This is what tabloids do. They assume these two would fight and well Kenya’s storyline includes her ass so this must be an easy win for ROL. But if anyone every held this site accountable, they would see they just anticipate stuff and have no idea what is going on.

According to my sources, (which will be ROL sources tomorrow) it’s true they still don’t like each other, but they worked together well enough to win many challenges. Including one with Kenya as PM. In that challenge when The Donald asked Kenya who she would take with her to the boardroom if she lost, or who was the weakest link or whatever he asked she said, Brandi and read her in the boardroom. But THEY WON. You know how Donald does.. He set her up. BUT THEY WON !

But since ROL had no sources they just made shit up.

Verdict: Predicting Water is Wet. And still not getting it right at the time.

Sneakpeek to my tea: Kenya is not on the team with Brandi anymore…but it is not for the reason you think.

So ROL has NOTHING and I have A SHIT TON of spoilers I have been working on for weeks.

I’m just posting this so you know when all my hard work is stolen, you heard it here first. Please invite your friends and neighbors to follow me here or they can read it later on ROL...

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Thank you, Tamara. We've known for ages ROL is nothing but BS.

TLC stinks said...

Yesterday (April 16) while RHOA star Porsha Stewart was being booked for assaulting her co-star Kenya Moore, Moore was spotted shooting scenes for the new season of Celebrity Apprentice with Vivica Fox and … Claudia Jordan.
Despite being “fired” from Celebrity Apprentice All-Stars last season, a source close to production told HipHollywood exclusively that Jordan will be making a couple appearances on Celebrity Apprentice.
According to the source, Jordan will be helping during a couple of the challenges because of her experience working on past seasons of the show. Whatsmore, the source says Jordan, despite the drama last season with Omarosa Manigualt, gets along great with Moore and Vivica Fox.
Camera’s caught the ladies filming and having a good time. And even at one point, Moore picks up a camera and shoots some photos of Vivica.

Jeremy said...

There are all kinds of "lies" . Regarding Geraldo's education. Jane, you did a Google search and came up with some shaky info. How does one do "post docotoral" work after getting a law degree? He attended a summer journalism program at Columbia, nothing about getting a degree from there. His own bio on Fox indicates nothing about his studies at either UPenn or Columbia. Don't you find that interesting? Wouldn't a journalist want to put on record his education in journalism. My GUESS would be he took a course at UPenn and did a course or 2 at Columbia. It is stretching the truth to say he has several degrees from Ivy League schools. Yes, this is a lot on the same off- topic, but when the subject is "lies" , I think the big picture is important. Someone makes a claim and then it is believed as true. Geraldo might be a smart man and a good journalist, but to imply that he was a graduate of several Ivy League schools is a gross exaggeration.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

How does one do "post docotoral" work after getting a law degree? He attended a summer journalism program

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A JD is a Juris Doctor, so it's proper to say post doctoral work even though it's more like a grad degree than a phd. Lots of JDs do so. There are many reasons, not the least of which is you are considering being a professor. Other reasons are wanting to be a specialized investigator or consultant. Happens all the time.


As for the Columbia "summer program" it is one of the most intensive and respected journalistic workshops out there. You can't stumble in hung over and breeze through it. I'm sure the application process was vigorous and the workshop intensive. Kudos to him for getting in. I don't get the debate over his extensive and impressive education. It is what it is. You may think him a fool but he's an educated fool.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

TLC stinks said... 45
Thank you, Tamara. We've known for ages ROL is nothing but BS.
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Who is Tamara? Do you have a link? Thanks.

Jane said...

Tweete-le, here you go. She's also on Twitter with the same name

http://tamaratattles.com

Kelly said...

This is such a great post. Thank you so much Admin.. I agree that this story is inspirational. I cannot fathom knowing what the Andreu's knew and trying to form a strategy to take Armstrong down. It would be like a game of chess and Armstrong intimidates me just looking at him. I didn't know this was on Netflix so I'm excited to get to watch it today.

I have no idea what's gone on on CA since I never watch it but Gerlado is smart. Unfortunately I also see him as sleazy but I don't think his education or intelligence is debatable. I also appreciate that he's self- made/self-supporting and didn't need to use anyone to get media attention. That's something TFW knows nothing about.

This is my first time back here in what feels like weeks. I'll never get caught up with the posts but thanks again everyone for the pup tips. I've been using a variety of them with success..thank God...because I've threatened more than once to put him on Craigslist ;)

NJGal51 said...

Kim Novak stepped out to say Donald Trump shamed and bullied her? Donald Trump made an off-the-cuff comment on twitter as did many others.

@realDonaldTrump
I'm having a real hard time watching the Academy Awards (so far). The last song was terrible! Kim should sue her plastic surgeon! #Oscars
7:30 PM - 2 Mar 2014

I'm sorry, I just don't see this as bullying. Bullying is now the go to accusation when people don't like what someone has said about them. Many "comedians" have also said things not only about her appearance but also about Joan Rivers, Goldie Hawn, Bruce Jenner, Meg Ryan, Cher and others. If you're going to do something like that to yourself and people make comments, suck it up and admit that you may have gone a little too far with whatever you've had done. Joan Rivers is a good example and makes fun of herself all the time. Hell's bells, we talk about TFW's non-procedures and appearance all the time.

This may not be a popular opinion but it's mine and I'll own it.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Jane, thanks for the link. Just wanted to check out who this person is, see if she's more credible than any of the other gossip mongers.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

How does one do "post docotoral" work after getting a law degree? He attended a summer journalism program

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Do you get a "D" with this, or is it without the "D"? :)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...




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I don't know whether it's unpopular but I completely agree with you!

I think when public figures, especially the rich and famous, cry bullying, it cheapenes what ral bullying is and is insulting to children who really are being bullied. That's the same attitude Lance Armstrong took too--I'm being bullied. Not, I'm a public figure who is being questioned by those who have every right to question me, especially since I'm selling them a certain image.

Trump's comment may not have been NICE but it wasn't "bullying."

The key element of bullying to me is that imbalance of power, and the victim usually being in a position where they can't fight back on the same level.

A celebrity can take to twitter or the media, or heaven forbid pick up the phone and hash out your difference with Trump directly. Somewhere along the way, these pathetic people started confusing bullying with "cat fight."

Jane said...

Tweet-le, My impression was that she rehashes what's already out there on Twitter, FB, Instagram etc. But I haven't spent a lot of time on her blog. Perhaps she has some inside info.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Jane said... 56

I'm not impressed. We'll see what her "spoilers" are like...IF she actually publishes any.

sparkle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 53


I think when public figures, especially the rich and famous, cry bullying, it cheapenes what ral bullying is and is insulting to children who really are being bullied. That's the same attitude Lance Armstrong took too--I'm being bullied. Not, I'm a public figure who is being questioned by those who have every right to question me, especially since I'm selling them a certain image.
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Yes!!! Here's what just kills me- people like Lance, Kate and others who have told lies, embellished and fabricated stories to create a hero type persona. Look at me! I'm just a strong, determined hero who wants to help others and spread my message of hope :)

However, when the lies are questioned, they immediately claim they are being bullied. When the lies are investigated and revealed- THOSE PEOPLE TURN INTO BULLIES OF VICIOUS AND EPIC PROPORTIONS AND BECOME OBSESSED WITH RUINING AND DEMOLISHING THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO TELL THE TRUTH!! Even if it means breaking the law repeatedly for them to accomplish this. Not only do these people feel entitled just in general, they feel entitled to lie and deceive and everyone's just supposed to look the other way. Or else.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

"It is stretching the truth to say he has several degrees from Ivy League schools."

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I was reading back and I can't find anyone who said that he has "several degrees" from Ivy League schools...that he studied at an Ivy League school (UPenn), and is a Columbia grad (journalism program). How is that stretching the truth? What else could you say...he did work at UPenn and graduated from Columbia journalism program. Period.

"I don't get the debate over his extensive and impressive education. It is what it is."

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I don't get it either, admin, and why keep referring to it as a lie?

Flimsy, 42: " I think it's worth it to her to have the crazies because it scans with her "poor me I'm bullied" agenda.
And when people start bashing her ex? It's like Christmas morning."

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Exactly. She not only needs the adulation, but she needs to be able to claim she's a victim. That's what the haters on there just can't seem to grasp. If they'd stop this antagonism and arguments with the sheeple, Kate would have nothing left but the adoration from the few fans. That would get pretty old after awhile. The non-fans are giving her exactly what she wants...the reason to cry "bullying." It kind of defeats the whole purpose of being a non-fan. Kate loves it and they are playing right into her hands. Not only that, but without the haters on there, the sheeple would have nothing from which to defend Kate! That Twitter would die in no time flat.

Who is this "Fired Just Like Kate?" I have a fairly good idea. Sounds just like a regular tweeter who disappears, comes back and then disappears again.

Hey, Mrs. Malaprop! There you are! Glad to hear the you, the doctor and Moses are doing well! If you have any of his gems to share, let's hear it!

Kelly said...

Kim Novak...oh give me a break. "Bullied" is the new catch phrase it seems whenever someone gets their feelings hurt or someone tells the truth or isn't politically correct. I understand how devastating it is when it's truly done, but I'm sick of listening to fully grown-ass, insecure "celebs" play the bullied card. Meanwhile we've got a teenage suicide epidemic on our hands, especially in Kentucky. God bless Maddie Yates and her family.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 57
Jane said... 56

I'm not impressed. We'll see what her "spoilers" are like...IF she actually publishes any.

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I think I'd be really careful about that. Reality Steve was sued by ABC over publishing "spoilers." It was settled out of court, but who wants that hassle, not to mention attorney's costs?

TLC stinks said...

These Hollywood plastic surgeons are very bad. I just saw Marlo Thomas on "Morning Joe" a few days ago. She has her lips all pumped up and has a nose job. I guess she's in her 70's?

AuntieAnn said...

Geraldo knows how to create controversy. He thinks Casey Anthony was a good mother so I'm curious to hear his opinion of Kate's parenting if he has one. I'm sure that subject will be brought up a few times on the show, mostly by the queen mother herself.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

These Hollywood plastic surgeons are very bad. I just saw Marlo Thomas on "Morning Joe" a few days ago. She has her lips all pumped up and has a nose job.

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I'm not sure what's going on with her nose, but the right nostril is higher than the left. It's very noticeable.
And no, that's not bullying.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

And that is really what is so important to remember is that celebrities are SELLING us something. We may not actually hand them a 20 dollar bill directly but they make millions off people who buy into the image. Kate sold a certain image based on lies and people paid good money for it. Same with Lance.

If an image is suspect, a lie, or misleading, and people are forking over money for this defective product, then people have a right to let them know the product is defective.

It's no different than someone leaving a review on Amazon for a vacuum cleaner saying don't waste your money, it doesn't suck up shit.

We are a country that prides itself on being able to tell others "don't waste your money." It keeps everyone honest.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Kate sold a certain image based on lies and people paid good money for it. Same with Lance.

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Yes, and they did actually hand her money...all those dollar bills (cash only) in the baskets at her speaking engagements; cash only for a photo of the kids. How much more deceptive can you get?

Lalalalala said...

Meryl Streep's wonderful advice for women.

“For young women, I would say, don’t worry so much about your weight. Girls spend way too much time thinking about that, and there are better things. For young men, and women, too, what makes you different or weird, that’s your strength. Everyone tries to look a cookie-cutter kind of way, and actually the people who look different are the ones who get picked up. I used to hate my nose. Now, I don’t.”

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 61
I think I'd be really careful about that. Reality Steve was sued by ABC over publishing "spoilers." It was settled out of court, but who wants that hassle, not to mention attorney's costs?
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Naughty but NIce Rob doesn't seem worried:

Did Kate Gosselin and Brandi Glanville make it to Celebrity Apprentice final four? SPOILER ALERT!

http://www.naughtybutnicerob.com/did-kate-gosselin-and-brandi-glanville-make-it-to-celebrity-apprentice-final-four-spoiler-alert/

Jeremy said...

I will make one final comment, and, again, when the subject of the post is "lies", I would think readers are concerned with the truth. This comment was made and then discussed on the previous post "Geraldo's resume is astounding. I think he's got like five advanced degrees. He went to UPenn, an Ivy League."

from his bio on Fox, his current employer "Rivera is a graduate of the University of Arizona and Brooklyn Law School and is the author of seven books"

from his bio at the Museum of Broadcaster Couumincations "GERALDO RIVIERA. Born in New York City, New York, U.S., 4 July 1943. B.S., University of Arizona, 1965; JD. Brooklyn Law School, 1969; postgraduate work at University of Pennsylvania, 1969; attended School of Journalism, Columbia University, 1970."

from UPI - "He is an alumnus of University of Arizona, where he played varsity lacrosse as goalie. From September 1961 to May 1963, he attended the State University of New York Maritime College, where he was a member of the rowing team. He received his J.D. from Brooklyn Law School in 1969, did postgraduate work at the University of Pennsylvania that same year, and briefly attended the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism during the summer of 1970."

his own words 'As their spokesman, I appeared on "The Today Show," got spotted by a TV executive, sent to a special summer program at Columbia University"

his bio when recognized his work for the Hispanic Heritage 'Geraldo is an alumnus of University of Arizona, where he played varsity lacrosse as goalie. From September 1961 to May 1963, he attended the State University of New York Maritime College, where he was a member of the rowing team. He received his J.D. from Brooklyn Law School in 1969, did postgraduate work at the University of Pennsylvania that same year, and briefly attended the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism during the summer of 1970."

He is NOT a Columbia GRAD, unless anyone can cite a reference to this. He attended a summer program. The Masters in Journalism is a 10 month program. And I don't think anyone can comment on how pretigious or vigorous the summer program was, or the application process was, in 1970.

I actually don't know why there is so much debate on this, though I have contributed more than my share. But several comments were made on this site and believed to be true, where there is no credible evidence to support it.

TLC stinks said...

Yeah, Fleecing. It looks like she had a nose tip job done. It's shorter than her "That Girl" days. I barely remember the show but I do remember wanting my hair to flip like hers.

Millicent said...

silimom said... 5

Kate has definitely fallen but with a stint on CA and a new TLC special, her star appears to be on the rise again.

I can't help but wonder if Jon's recent returns to reality tv didn't help spark renewed interest in her? If Jon had just kept his life private, would she have these opportunities now? We'll never know, and it's a moot point now anyway, but I have wondered if there was a connection
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It's probably impossible to know, but one thing that I do know for certain: Kate's sole purpose in life is to get back on tv in any type of cushy gig. She will sell out her kids if it gets her what she wants. So whether Jon's stint on that therapy show gave her an extra push, I have no doubt she was already pushing the entire time.

I don't see Kate's star being on the rise again. If I could post a chart that showed the number of viewers interested in watching a show with Kate on it, we would see it start at zero, then rise rapidly during the early seasons of the show. The highest point would be when Jon & Kate were splitting. Then we would see the line on the chart begin a downward shift. There may be the occasional small spike upward here and there, but for the most part, the line has reached close to zero once more. And the high numbers cannot be attributed solely to Kate. People tuned in to see the children, and to watch the dynamic of a young couple allegedly struggling financially with having such a large family all at once.

Kate's persona of a harried mother of 8 was all smoke and mirrors. Most people who were fans of her have moved on, because they saw the reality some time ago. She will never be able to regain the level of popularity she once had; just as Lance Armstrong has been too thoroughly exposed to ever be taken seriously again either.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

And I don't think anyone can comment on how pretigious or vigorous the summer program was, or the application process was, in 1970.

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You can read all about it online, and that statement simply isn't true.

Columbia's journalism school in general has been pretty much world renowned since the journalism program was founded by Joseph Pulitzer in 1912. Yes, that Pulitzer. Their graduates go on to careers at the NY Times or 60 Minutes.

Fred Friendly started the summer program in the 60's. You know, thee Fred Friendly of CBS. And was teaching there exactly when Geraldo was there. There's no debate about that program, in 2014 or in 1970. It has always been incredibly competitive. It has always been world renowned. Geraldo gets all my respect for getting into the program.

Millicent said...

canadianmom1 said... 17

@ rhymes 11

I just discovered Modern Family about 6 months ago and I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!! Mitchell and Cam are hilarious, but I think Phil is my favorite. He is just so darn cute!
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I agree - this show is laugh out loud hilarious. I love all the characters on the shown, down to the doofus Dylan. Who knew that Al Bundy could turn into Jay Pritchett? I think the casting people did an amazing job filling every role. Phil is probably my favorite too, but I love them all. This will be a show I'll watch in reruns forever lol.

Millicent said...

AuntieAnn said... 63

Geraldo knows how to create controversy. He thinks Casey Anthony was a good mother s
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My opinion of Geraldo has been pretty low for many years, and if this is true (his opinion of Casey Anthony as a good mother), then he has sunk to a new low. I don't really care about his educational background at this point - anyone who followed the Casey Anthony trial knows Casey Anthony is guilty as sin, and was the furthest thing from a "good mother" as you can get. Blech Geraldo!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That's not exactly what Giraldo said but that's where he clearly has poor common sense, and doesn't have a good idea about how things are going to be interpreted.

He was trying to explain that there was evidence that would support that she was a good mother. He was speaking like a lawyer. He was talking about some of the more benign home videos and such. That's simply the truth, there were some benign videos where you couldn't really say that video shows bad mothering. I doubt most mothers pull out the camera when they are being inappropriate, unless you're Kate! There is just no good way to say that without sounding like you're defending her. There was also of course, plenty of evidence to show she's a bad one.

Carole said...

Just a friendly reminder/request for everyone to try to remember to include the source - URL/link to quotes from articles that we're posting. It not only saves time if others want to review them, but it's also a blogging rule with a legal component, too. Thanks!

JoyinVirginia said...

Taking about the Bryan Singer story, cause I have some time to read stuff on the computer. Accuser says he and his mother went to FBI in 2000 and nothing was done. Not commenting on specific case, but FBI spokesperson has said ” the suggestion that the FBI ignored evidence concerning the sexual victimization of a minor is completely without merit.” This apparently goes back to a case of sexual assault successfully prosecuted in 2001 or around then. And apparently there was a documentary in production about sexual abuse in Hollywood, the accuser is involved in somehow. Its going to be an interesting story when all the facts come out.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Just a friendly reminder/request for everyone to try to remember to include the source - URL/link to quotes from articles that we're posting. It not only saves time if others want to review them, but it's also a blogging rule with a legal component, too. Thanks!


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A link might not necessarily protect against copyright but it should always be included as a courtesy at the least.

In that same vein, don't just post a link without saying anything. Speaking for myself and I'm assuming others, I don't necessarily want to click on every single link posted here. I usually am not interested whatsoever in yet another rag mag story about how Kendra hates Brandi, but unless you tell me what it is, I have to click on it to find out.

Take 20 seconds of your time and post either the title of the article you are linking to or your own brief summary.

Same goes for tweets. Tweets from twitter accounts we're not familiar with, with no context from you, are confusing. Why is this person posting this? Please give some context. It can be simple as, here's a random person on twitter who doesn't appear to be a fan or hater, and look what they just said about this! Thanks everyone, it's been quite a ride with this CA thing going on, and lots of fun!

PatK said...

I don't think Kate "gets it" yet that she was only added to the CA mix for the trainwreck factor and was being used by DT, et al.

Did she honestly think she would make it down to the final two? Really? She's a nobody. A nothing. Just trainwreck entertainment. Always will be.

Meg said...

Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 23h

I Wonder how the @Kateplusmy8 bullies keep up with the many email addresses and twitter accounts they create. All to spread hate. So sad



Sunny ‏@sunnyside1988 21h

OMG! K8 is NOT bullied! Called out on her actions? YES, & rightfully so, since K8 has lied 2 the public 4 years! @ljohnson2006 @kateplusmy8


Snotty Girl ‏@Snotty_Girl 18h

@sunnyside1988 @ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 Investigate before you rant. Kates been bullied out of jobs & fans have had their lives threatened

Meg said...


Over And Out said... 16

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 57m
When kateplusmy8 Bitter Busybodies stand b4 judge in @BullyVille lawsuit will they finally understand difference between criticize & libel?---------- And when the judge looks at how BV bullied and outed women that talked bad about Kate on a public blog he might laugh. Judges look at both sides BV is not favored by the courts he's a bully that threatens people on twitter all day.

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

Actually, if TFW can accuse scads of folks of bullying her then I reckon that Kim Novak can accuse DT of the same thing. And, if being a bully is the new catch phrase then so be it for I have no problem with that since I'm not a public figure nor do I wish to accuse anyone who may not like me or my appearance of being a bully.

I believe that Admin has stated above that a journalist should not be a fan of his/her subject so doesn't that mean that we as the public shouldn't become so star struck that we can't see the faults of the celebrity? Kim Novak is old.....Just as I am old so if she feels bullied then that's fine with me. Old people have different values and reasons; and maybe we have devalued what younger people can easily reason away. Besides, Kim Novak hasn't been seen nor heard of for years so let's give her her due, please, and not make fun of her face publically as DT did.

Whatever. I surely did not mean to get everyone's drawers in a wad over Donald Trump and the word "bully". Forgive me. I'm new and I need to learn the ropes here. Remember, old dogs gotta learn new tricks.

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

Flimsy, thank you for the explanation about TFW's TL. All the while I was laughing over FiredJustLikeKate's comments, I still thought about TFW's two oldest daughters, who are indeed of an age to read her Twitter TL, and what they must think about their mama. How sad. The drive for fame and riches can sink one's entire being, can't it?

TLC stinks said...

Will she or won't she tweet about Easter?

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I agree, FlimsyFlamsy, with every word you wrote. Thank you. Also, Admin, great new post. It is just wrong on so many levels to trick the public to collect a big pay out.

About that editor at People, she is the reason I no longer will buy or subscribe to that magazine. Not feeling her love for all things Kate Gosselin. Just do not get it and I do not believe that TFW on the cover will sell massive amounts of the magazine. Not buying that load of garbage. Could someone be paying the magazines to be featured? Just saying.....

Beth said...

I've also stopped buying People due to their love of all things Kate. I used to subscribe but as soon as it expired I wrote a letter explaining why. I don't think they care. I don't want another cover with exploited kids in my bathroom.

Kate does make good toilet paper ....

FlimsyFlamsy said...

OT, but for those of you who are "Modern Family" fans, there's another
terrific ABC sitcom on Wednesday night - "The Middle." It doesn't get
much fanfare or awards, but I think it's excellent. Another family comedy, but this bunch is living paycheck to paycheck, and many of the storylines are based on them just trying to get by. I'd never seen it until it debuted on ABC Family and they had a daylong marathon, and
I was hooked!

Yes, will we hear from TFW tomorrow? Perhaps she'll say she's home for the holiday, and tackling eleventymillion loads of laundry -
#welcomehomemom?

Localyocul said...

Thing is Geraldo didn't just make that one statement about casey. He pandered to Baez for three years and defended casey for three years. Maybe he was a defense attorney...he seems to be Fox News's affirmative action token liberal. The problem is I find bar to be highly unethical brokering a deal with ABC news for the sale of photos and videos of caylee to fund his defense. At the very minimum at the time we knew she had lied and partied and been unconcerned while her daughter was "missing" and numerous people and two dogs said her trunk smelled like death. Talk about child exploitation selling photos if a child to fund the defense of the "mother" who we last seem with her

Localyocul said...

Omg I love The Middle! I love Sue Heck. I don't care for Patricia Heatons politics but I love her as n actress . See how tht work sheep?

Localyocul said...

Snotty Girl ‏@Snotty_Girl 18h

@sunnyside1988 @ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 Investigate before you rant. Kates been bullied out of jobs & fans have had their lives threatened

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Kate's work failures are her own and what fans life was threated Snotgirl? Specifics please

Ex Nurse said...

Another person cut from the same cloth as TFW and Armstrong, is Greg Mortenson --the author of 3 Cuos of Tea. He published lies about his charity work in Afghanistan, and used that as a springboard to launch himself globally. He treated his nonprofit as a piggy bank, and has been disgraced. Along the way, he pissed off Jon Krakauer, who wrote the a booklet called 3 Cups of Deceit, exposing his lies.

My neighborhood book club read the book right before 60 minutes broke the story. I was soundly criticized for voicing my suspicions, which were aroused by something he said about being a burn nurse. I was a burn nurse, and his statement about how gratifying it is to ease the pain of burn victims is just not plausible. There is not enough morphine in the world to ease the pain--it is an excruciating ordeal, and a very difficult job. I figured that if he would lie about that, then there were probably a lot of other things he lied about.

Ultimately, what brings people like that down is their ruthless using of people, who then feel enraged and bent on bringing them down.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Kate's work failures are her own and what fans life was threated Snotgirl? Specifics please

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There is absolutely nothing anyone can say or do to convince the sheeple that Kate's failures are her own because of her abrasive, controlling personality, lack of work ethic, and just plain miserable demeanor. They can't give you specifics because there are none, and they'd just invent something to deflect. It's a shame, really, that there just isn't any intelligence there...no critical thinking ability, no logical thinking, and no acceptance even if the facts were to hit them right in their woolly rear ends. In a way, it's sad, but then again, they are what they are and nothing is going to change it.

I have yet to hear how the bullies are responsible for her cookbook embarrassment, or how the haters are the ones who convinced the CEO of Coupon Cabin to fire her. What powers those bullies must have!

NJGal51 said...

TLC Stinks - She had the kids last weekend so my guess is that Jon probably has them for Easter so if she tweets at all it won't be until the kids are home OR she's going to stay in NY and milk CA as long as she can because you know this is a top secret mission and one must maintain twitter silence, no spoilers out there folks, just look the other way.

TFW done everybody wrong - My drawers are not in a wad. I was just stating my opinion on the bullying battle cry that seems to be so popular when someone doesn't like what someone else has said about him/her. I don't agree that we have to make allowances for her because of her age but I respect your opinion.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Did she honestly think she would make it down to the final two?

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Quite possibly. She thought she was going to win the mirrorball on DWTS.

NJGal51 said...

Count me in as a fan of The Middle (looking down whispering The Middle). I really do love the very quirky Brick and Sue Heck is da bomb.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Speaking of good tv.....Has anyone seen the Irish series Love/Hate? I'm considering giving it a try.

Formerly Duped said...

Anyone watch Parenthood? It was great the first 2-3 seasons but has gone downhill a bit...still I really like some of the storylines; very true-to-life. New babies, separation, adoption, abortion, autism, racism, cancer, alcoholism, being fired, empty nest, moving on.

NJGal51 said...

I'm currently binge watching The Walking Dead on my iPad. I'm almost done with season 2.

sparkle said...

Blowing In The Wind said....


I have yet to hear how the bullies are responsible for her cookbook embarrassment, or how the haters are the ones who convinced the CEO of Coupon Cabin to fire her. What powers those bullies must have!
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I recently read an old article about Kate's firing from CC. A CC insider told the author that the last straw was when Kate blogged that she did her own home repairs that past weekend, with supplies she bought at Home Depot and Lowes. When it had actually been documented that she was away from home the entire weekend. The insider also said that her tips were not helpful to the average person, and she had been advised on how to improve her blog. They said she ignored the advice and changed nothing. There was also mention of how difficult and demanding she was to work with.

librarylady said...

Another fan of The Middle! The young lady who plays Sue is outstanding in the role and I think we laugh out loud at every episode we've seen so far (still playing catch-up). Just reminds us so much of our growing up and midwestern lives, neighbors, goofy family situations that are familiar. Not sure why it flies under the radar. Like Modern Family, too. That casting certainly is excellent. This is the most we've watched tv in years, really, with just these two shows.

Kate puts Kate first said...

Celebrity worship syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_worship_syndrome

Jeremy said...

In Geraldo's own words, he probably got into the summer program because he was a minority, and my opinion, perhaps because of a request from the network who hired him to work in the summer to get him camera ready as a journalist. Here is the link:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/01/18/geraldo-rivera-confesses-im-product-affirmative-action

However he got in, he certainly never recieved several advanced degrees, which was where this discussion began. He never recieved any certification or degree from Columbia that I can find anywhere in any bio, including the bio on his own website.

prairiemary said...

I LOVE The Middle!! I don're usually watch comedy programs, but love this one.
I went over to Tamara Rattles a few minutes ago, and she has an article about Jody Arias and her antics in prison, did not read it yet, I am a tad behind in the reading of this blog. Happy Easter to those who celebrate it!

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I do not believe that Kate ever "gets it." She is so lacking in self-awareness that it allows her to show herself in a horrible light on a constant basis. Too many examples to list, but many of you know what I mean. I would still be reeling from being fired so publicly from a coupon web-site. Where is the shame with this woman? It doesn't exist. What about duping good hard-working people in to donating gift cards and cash to a family that truly doesn't need it? Where is the shame? Again, it doesn't exist. It's a true let down when you have sacrificed to help someone only to find out you were duped. This applies to both Armstrong and Gosselin. Leaves a horrible taste and takes a while to get over it. Many here have experienced it.

Kim said...

RealityTvScandals✨ ‏@MissAmiaSays 4h

I can't believe ppl get in legal battles over .@Kateplusmy8 No "Reality Tv Participant" is that important to me. Smh at both sides.


Sascha ‏@Sassccha 4h

@MissAmiaSays @Kateplusmy8 Ppl incensed that she exploits her kids to try and find fame for herself. Why people encourage her, I don't know.


✨RealityTvScandals✨ ‏@MissAmiaSays 3h

@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 I do not like Kate either, but I will be damned if I get myself in legal battles over her.

Beyond DIsgusted said...

I had to laugh when I looked at Yahoo trenders. Gladys gets all giddy over Kate trending. Right now, Loch Ness Monster is #3.

prairiemary said...

I forgot what I wanted to ask anyone here, I searched high and low to find a book about that awful state school Geraldo did stories about,The Willowbrook School, but have just found does and newspaper articles. I thought that there Must be a book written about it. Can anyone here help
please? Thanks.
Also, someone mentioned about a poster on this blog comes and goes, a sheeple perhaps? Just wanted to let you know that it is not me, because I am one that does come and go often. I think Admin. can vouch for me, as I do email her from time to time. Thanks:)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

A JD is an advanced degree. He certainly received that.

The summer program is specifically for minorities so to say he got in because he's a minority is silly. They're ALL minorities. It was designed to promote minorities in journalism at a time when it was all white men. I imagine there were hundreds of other minorities who were happy to take his place if Columbia's journalism program for minorities wasn't good enough for him.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

There was also mention of how difficult and demanding she was to work with.


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Yes and Scott said something about how she wasn't fitting in with their culture.

I have no idea how you can blame that on anyone but herself. I'm really glad Scott wrote what he wrote because he made it crystal clear the "haters" didn't play one bit of a role in her firing. If they had she would have been fired before she even started. Thank you Scott.

Serendipity said...

Also, someone mentioned about a poster on this blog comes and goes, a sheeple perhaps? Just wanted to let you know that it is not me, because I am one that does come and go often. I think Admin. can vouch for me, as I do email her from time to time. Thanks:)

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I think what was mentioned that the person who is tweeting as a Milo parody comes and goes. It's on Twitter, not on this blog, as far as I know.

Serendipity said...

I had to laugh when I looked at Yahoo trenders. Gladys gets all giddy over Kate trending. Right now, Loch Ness Monster is #3.

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Where is Gladys? Off pouting somewhere?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

prairiemary said... 106
I forgot what I wanted to ask anyone here, I searched high and low to find a book about that awful state school Geraldo did stories about,The Willowbrook School, but have just found does and newspaper articles. I thought that there Must be a book written about it. Can anyone here help
please? Thanks.
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Rivera wrote a "report" about it, available in hardback and paperback:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0394481801?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwgoodco-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0394481801&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2

Serendipity said...

Yes and Scott said something about how she wasn't fitting in with their culture.

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Didn't he use the word "authenticity?" I seem to remember that and wondered exactly what he meant.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

He used the word authenticity but I distinctly remember him referring to company culture because I remember thinking there is no way on God's green earth that can be blamed on a hater. A hater could not possibly have any say in how Kate fits in with company culture. It's not like anyone in their right mind could be bombarding CC with emails about "company culture", how on earth would they know what their culture is and whether Kate fits in with it?

It was very validating, because he completely took the blame off the "haters." I found the quote, here it is:

"Ms. Gosselin is simply not a good fit with the wonderful team and culture at CouponCabin.”

I take that quote to also imply she was not a team player, which is another thing a "hater" would know absolutely nothing about or could influence Scott about unless they were in that company.

What was interesting is that the bulk of his Dear John letter wasn't so much about her blogs themselves (and not at all about public perception of her) as it was about her, Kate, as a person and her, Kate as a co-worker. What a fantastic pink slip letter. Too bad I doubt she took it to heart.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I searched high and low to find a book about that awful state school Geraldo did stories about,The Willowbrook School, but have just found does and newspaper articles. I thought that there Must be a book written about it. 106

There may or may not be a book. If you are interested in the subject, however, may I recommend " Crimes Against Humanity" by Benjamin Ricci. It is about the horrors that took place in Massachusetts.
Dr. Ricci's book could benefit from some editing, (analogous to Robert's) but he passed several years ago.
His son is alive and well, living in a group home.
Also, for internet research, Geraldo also did an expose on Letchworth Village in NY.

Serendipity said...

Other than being disagreeable and playing the diva role to the max, I wonder what she did to really tick them off at CC. I guess unless an insider spills, we'll never know for sure. Scott did a great job with that letter. Succinct without revealing details, but we all got the picture. I'm surprised they kept her on there as long as they did.

lukebandit said...

Prairiemary, you are too nice to come in here, in and out and stir up things! I love reading your posts.

Watched several Law and Order SVU's and Law and Order: Criminal Intent. They were pretty gruesome today. 2 or 3 I had already seen, but there was just nothing else really to watch.

Frankie and Betsy Andreu remind me of Aunt Jodie and Uncle Kevin trying to stop the kate the snake train wreck. They wrestled with her and they got bit and had to back off. Frankie & Betsy, Kevin & Jodie are heros, even though F and B succeeded and K and J did the best they could.

I hope the kids were able to see Kevin and Jody while the monster was gone.

Oh, remember she tweeted, Still having a blast! So transparent. Code speak: I just got fired, Steve and I are headed to a tropical island for rest and relaxation until I am summoned back to CA.

Extending it as long as she can. Hopefully, Jon will be able to take Everybody to Church tomorrow for Sunrise Services!

Happy Easter to all who celebrate!

Millicent said...

Tweets from twitter accounts we're not familiar with, with no context from you, are confusing. Why is this person posting this? Please give some context. It can be simple as, here's a random person on twitter who doesn't appear to be a fan or hater, and look what they just said about this!
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I routinely scroll right past posts with a listing of tweets - for one thing, it is awkward to try to decipher the shorthand people use. For another, more than half the time it's just people trading insults. Not interested.

AuntieAnn said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 75

That's not exactly what Giraldo said but that's where he clearly has poor common sense, and doesn't have a good idea about how things are going to be interpreted.

He was speaking like a lawyer. He was talking about some of the more benign home videos and such

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Whether he was speaking like a lawyer or not that is what he said.

Geraldo: "...The record is conclusive. This was a good mother. You see the video. You see the still shots. You see her, you see the child...the child lovingly looking in the mother's eyes."

O'Reilly: "How does a mother enter a wet body contest when her baby is missing? How does that happen?"

Geraldo: "Because maybe her mind is so distorted by years of abuse she can't think straight. ...Maybe she's mentally ill, maybe she's psychotic. Maybe...who knows, but that is not the crime of murder."

He is correct on that point but his opinion on any subject would never tilt the scales for me. I agree he's an educated fool. He is very adept at creating hype to promote himself, I'll give him that and he'll certainly perform well in Donald Trump's sideshow tent. I'll be watching with a big bowl of buttered popcorn.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Thanks for the quotes Auntie. I get exactly what Geraldo is saying because he's talking exactly like an attorney would. He's saying entering a wet body contest doesn't prove murder. That is correct. He's saying the record at trial had established that there were certainly many times that Casey behaved appropriately with her child. That is also correct.

The tough thing about that trial was that it was based on a lot of circumstantial evidence. It had a smell test to it. We all knew it smelled bad. But in a court of law, a bad smell is not enough.

Maybe they over pled it. I don't know. But the prosecution utterly failed at that trial, and now a murderer is going free. There's no second chance here because there's no double jeopardy. Geraldo was right, certain parts of the record were conclusive. I still think they had enough to convict, and I was outraged they didn't. I also heard some jury interviews which led me to believe some of the jury members weren't understanding the standards correctly. But I see what he's saying, and I think he was looking at the situation in a very linear and cool fashion, removing all emotions from the equation.

He just doesn't get that in that moment no one wants to hear that babble. They just want you to put aside the attorney hat and be outraged along with everyone else. They wanted emotions right then, and clearly that's not how he's wired. And that kind of makes me think there is narcissism going on there, because he just doesn't get it.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I routinely scroll right past posts with a listing of tweets - for one thing, it is awkward to try to decipher the shorthand people use. For another, more than half the time it's just people trading insults. Not interested.


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I don't care about the stupid haters and fans fights on twitter either, Millicent, which is I guess why it's getting a bit annoying to have it constantly posted here. If we could at least get a warning and some context, it would be easier to scroll. Although I struggle to understand every day why it's interesting. Tweets to and from Kate directly I get. The other stuff, meh.

AuntieAnn said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 119

And that kind of makes me think there is narcissism going on there, because he just doesn't get it.

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Maybe that's how he relates to them and sees their side of things. I think both Kate and Casey are narcissists who should not have ever become mothers. Children are a burden to them unless they can serve them in some way.


I'd also argue with Geraldo that a child looking lovingly into a mother's eyes doesn't mean she's a good mom. Who knows if a child is promised a lollipop if she smiles nice for the camera?

I remember those videos of Casey playing with Caylee. By all appearances they seemed to be having a good time. I also recall Kate playing on the floor with the kids and they seemed to be having a jolly good time too. But we don't know if they're having all that fun because it's what she always does with them or if they're just elated that she's finally playing with them because the producers told her to play with the kids. Either way, how is a child to know? They're having fun, period. Some should tell Geraldo that playing with your kids isn't the litmus test of good parenting.

lukebandit said...

Tweedle Dee and Tweetle Dumb and prairiemary,

I took the link of the booklet to tinyurl.com and made it much smaller.

http://tinyurl.com/mhfvnca

handinhand said...

Thing is Geraldo didn't just make that one statement about casey. He pandered to Baez for three years and defended casey for three years
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I always got the sense that Geraldo had a particular interest in championing Jose Baez .

Great new post, Admin.
Interesting, well reasoned points.

Happy Easter to all and welcome to the new posters.

TLC stinks said...

Tamara Tattles reveals teams, winners and losers. FYI, no wonder Kate was angry with the InTouch phone call...it was a WOMAN. LOL.

Problems/Rumors: All sorts of rumors swirl about Kate smushing her “body guard.” Apparently some girl from In Touch called the bodyguards hotel room and Kate answered and demanded to know who she was and then hung up.

http://tamaratattles.com/2014/04/19/celebrity-apprentice-2014-spoilers/#more-10285

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Lukebandit (#116), I agree that TFW's "still having a blast" tweet probably meant she was fired. C'mon, not having to work? Being away from her kids? Staying in a luxury hotel with room service? Not having to make nice with a bunch of has-been stars? Possibly getting a per diem for shopping in NYC?

Lalalandnomore (#103) you asked about TFW having no shame. Her supporters immediately jumped on Scott for firing her. So in her mind, she was a victim again. Shame only comes if there's validity to the other person's argument. No shame in dancing like a wounded rhino - Tony didn't know how to teach her. No shame in getting fired from
Coupon Cabin - this silly CEO didn't know moneysaving talent when
he had it. Should be interesting to see how the fans will react to DT
when they watch him fire her in the boardroom. Methinks Gladys, who has praised DT as such an astute judge of talent, will have a few choice words for him. Wonder if we can get him to fire Gladys?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I'd also argue with Geraldo that a child looking lovingly into a mother's eyes doesn't mean she's a good mom. Who knows if a child is promised a lollipop if she smiles nice for the camera?


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That's exactly right, and that's what the prosecution should say. I hope they did.

It doesn't prove she is a good mom. It is one slice of life, one moment in time, when she was being appropriate. The jury was supposed to take the whole picture when deciding whether she was a good mom, and that includes evidence that wasn't filmed.

I don't know if the videos came into evidence, but I would have been objecting.

I think as others have said this case may have suffered from the CSI effect.

PatK said...

TLC stinks said... 125

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Thanks for that link, TLC Stinks. I took a look, and apparently Kate may have been fired after that golf task.

Sue said...

I think Kate was fired before the golf task. Someone here posted that both Brandi and Leeza were tweeting about King Hawaiian bread brunch recipes and that was right before or around the time Kate posted about still having a blast. I hope she was fired then if it was a cooking task. Very fitting. Although if she were fired for a fitness challenge that would be fitting also. I think Tamar's pretty spot on except for the double firing. I think Kate was gone before that.

NJGal51 said...

@JustTheQTip: At the airport bright & early to fly out of town for work for a few days.
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I'm sure that the production crew has to be on location first and the celebs probably have the weekend off. Looks like they'll be heading out of town tomorrow (I really don't think DT would have the celebs work on Easter).

Ex Nurse said...

Formerly Duped said... 97
Anyone watch Parenthood? It was great the first 2-3 seasons but has gone downhill a bit...still I really like some of the storylines; very true-to-life. New babies, separation, adoption, abortion, autism, racism, cancer, alcoholism, being fired, empty nest, moving on.
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And, don't forget, a coming out! I love that show, and loved the movie that it was based on. I don't love all the characters, so I find some story lines more interesting than others. I think Mae Whitman is an outstanding actress, and will watch anything she is in. Much of the dialogue is improvised, so some times conversations can see eem stilted. And, definitely, some of the actors are much better at that than others.

Both of my daughters have started watching it, and love it too.

Call Me Crazy said...

Happy Easter, to those who celebrate it, and Happy Day, to those who don't!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I'm happy to see that many of you are also fans of "The Middle!" I thought maybe I was the only one! One episode connects with a TFW experience. The mom gets 2 Justin Bieber tickets for her daughter, and is excited to have this bonding experience with her teen. But the daughter is planning to go with her best friend. Of course the mom just grins and bears it, but is secretly heartbroken that her little girl is growing up, and doesn't want to "hang" with her anymore. Perhaps
M & C should DVR this episode and let their mom see it -- hint, hint.

Shout-out to Dwindle - hope you're well. I have missed your witty comments. And Ex Nurse, I hope you've gotten some time with
your grandbaby!

Formerly Duped said...

Ex- Nurse: Yes, I agree about the acting in parenthood, and I do like Mae as well. Can you believe she was the toddler daughter in When a Man Loves a Woman with Meg Ryan & Andy Garcia? She was good even then. So she's a child actress who seems to have reached adulthood successfully! (as far as I know)

NJGal51 said...

<====Happy Easter. Spend the day chillin' with your Peeps!

lukebandit said...

Paul Peterson posted on Facebook about the Singer case.

https://www.facebook.com/minorcon?fref=nf

Sherry Baby said...

Methinks Gladys, who has praised DT as such an astute judge of talent, will have a few choice words for him. Wonder if we can get him to fire Gladys?

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She also said that she's glad to see TFW on a classy show. Wonder how she will deal with that aspect of it? Now it will be "unclassy" because Kate was fired and The Donald is just a piece of unappreciative trash?

Her spin on it should be hilarious, even if it's predictable.

TLC stinks said...

I agree. Kate is fired. It's actually quite pleasant to not have her posting pictures and tweeting about Easter. I just wonder if she cared enough to go home or is staying in NYC with Steve. And for someone who proclaims to go to church and is soooo Christian, did she even bother to attend any service today.

TFW Did Everybody Wrong said...

"TFW done everybody wrong - My drawers are not in a wad. I was just stating my opinion on the bullying battle cry that seems to be so popular when someone doesn't like what someone else has said about him/her. I don't agree that we have to make allowances for her because of her age but I respect your opinion."

I do agree with what you have said, New Jersey, and the truth is that drawers in a twist/wad are quite uncomfortable so with that said, mine are straightened and your's are fine so we'll continue on, please.

Frankly, I never really cared for KN back in the day, but it seems that she isn't as savvy mentally or emotionally as someone like TFW in being able to retaliate about being made fun of by another celebrity so that's why I have a heart for her predicament. And, perhaps someone
told her about Bullyville. Also, when one takes the "fillers" route in the face then one must be prepared for not so polite comments. I say this as an older lady who does get "fillers" although not to the degree as KN has nor to the degree as TFW has with facial changes which are....Oh, well, you get the drift!

LaLaLandNoMore, funny you should mention PEOPLE mag. I had been a subscriber since they first began, however, I could take no more of them featuring Kate Gosselin so I called them to cancel. No more does any business or bank or whatever ask you "why?" They just flip you off, but I was politely determined to state my case and so I did. What is really funny is that I reminded the young woman to check and verify that I had been a many, many years' subscriber yet that I was abandoning ship due to a factor which I could not accept. She hesitated then I heard a double clicking on the line as I was speaking. I told her that I detested PEOPLE promoting KG and why. She replied,
"We understand. We've heard this before.". It would seem from lines clicking that many others in Customer Service did agree.

Localyocul said...

Looks like out PA guy is in Orlando:

@JustTheQTip: At the airport bright & early to fly out of town for work for a few days.

@JustTheQTip: Hotel is not too shabby! https://t.co/ts433NpPmq

@JustTheQTip: Lunch in Venice (Loews Portofino in Orlando)! http://t.co/LLwxDCXFgH

@JustTheQTip: Been at the hotel for over 2 hours and my room is still not ready... So much for fitting nap in before the craziness starts...

Jane said...

She's back!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 8m
Easter Baskets! #MakesMomHoppy #MakesKidsHoppier pic.twitter.com/54plKr8mGv

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 9m
Easter baskets! (1 of 2 pics) #nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest pic.twitter.com/GJfERK1pSu

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 38m
Home on Easter with my kids...It doesn't get anymore 'Egg-cellent' than that! Happy Easter, all!

PatK said...

Kate and Steve must have gotten their getaway in between the firing and Easter, so she could be home to tweet the Easter basket pics. lol

Of course, now she'll have the opportunity for the intense tweeting about the upcoming 10th birthday festivus. To be closely followed by the intense tweeting about the upcoming June TLC catch-up show!

Then what, Kate?

Anonymous said...

Just read :|http://tamaratattles.com/2014/04/19/celebrity-apprentice-2014-spoilers/#more-10285

Minuscule content about Kreider and nothing positive in the 3 whole comments about her either, other than a sheeple trying to justify a bodyguard because of the phantom "threats" from haterz. (Has anyone seen any threats, ever?) Just as I suspected, DT used her for filler.

And now they're saying the show might be aired next December? At this rate, the show will never see the light of day.

PJ

Sherry Baby said...

Thanks for linking that, Lukebandit. I love Paul. He has been, and continues to be the voice of reason and sensibility:

"This absence of judgment combined with the downward spiral of cultural pressure to sexualize ever-younger children is destroying our moral base. On this Easter Sunday I will be wearing a T-shirt under my Hawaiian shirt that says the following:
“Sometimes society becomes too stupid to survive”"

Localyocul said...

This tweet made me think of Milo

@Teri423: Well, #jodiarias is trending #1 on Yahoo...

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Admin...

I know you've been watching BBC's The Apprentice, & wonder if you have a link for full-length episodes of season 3. I've found only short 10 minute clips so far. The Young Apprentice is available, but not what I'm looking for right now.

Anyone watch White Collar? We've had it recommended, but haven't downloaded it yet.

Localyocul said...

Her Easter baskets remind me if a post by the STFU Parents blog about how Easter has become Christmas. Whatever happened to just eggs and candy?

http://www.stfuparentsblog.com/post/46865928993/easter-2013-spoiled-edition

Jumping In said...

#nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest.

Well, that is interesting, does this mean the twins are with their dad,
or has Kate finally succumbed a request from them? I am going with the former.

Formerly Duped said...

Girls have moved on to Barbies from baby dolls, boys still into Lego. I agree, twins are not there. Did they do the huge egg hunt, or the Bunny Munny candy store nonsense? I guess no church...well, the kids look happy, any way...

TLC stinks said...

Damn! She just can't help herself. I wonder who put those baskets together.

foxy said...

It looks like Kate filled those baskets with a lot of "self guilt" if she even knows what that is. Those baskets are way over the top. She has never put so many toys in them before.

I wonder if Mady and Cara are with Jon today. Seems no sign of them at or near the table.

We always got baskets with some candy and those little fuzzy chicken decorations. The boys would get a yo-yo and the girls got jacks. We were so happy with that.

Formerly Duped said...

Localyocul said... 147
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Ohhh, wow, I never saw so much crap for Easter.Is it the same for ever little holiday, Valentine's Day, St Patrick's day etc? I hate to think what these kinds of parents do for birthdays.There were some good comments on that site.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

So Mommy Bunny is home and twittering, what a happy Easter for Milo. Wonder who made the baskets for her. And interesting hashtag that the older girls do not want to be in her twitter pics - times they are a changing.

Re: Parenthood. The Adam Braverman 'on location' house is across the street from ours, so we have watched parts of all seasons filming, occasionally ( they have built a set replica as well, for interior shots). Fascinating process at times, mostly a whole lot of a lot of people doing little or nothing for hours on end. Having a crush on Peter Krause, it has been fun to watch him out my front window. I actually saw them shoot the scene ( from behind) in the finale where Haddie and her girlfriend arrive in the taxi. From the way she put her arm around her, oh so casually, I nailed the relationship. And I was right. The last scene, the passing of the guard family dining table was also shot in the neighbor's back yard. As we are preparing to sell our home of 30 years, it was especially poignant, and lovely, to see the parents pass on the table to the oldest son, so that family dinners will continue. Yes, I know it is tv, and scripted, but I have so enjoyed this show.

Back to TFW: she has had her moments in the sun, and gloom, in NYC. Now she can tweet about the May birthdays and the June TV special, but then what. A long, dull summer, no job, no vacations for the kids and what will then be a whole lot of embarrassing moments on a pretty dead in the water season of CA, sometime in the fall.

She has no idea how boring she is.

GKD said...

Happy 4/20! Happy Religious Zombie Bunny Day! lol Happy Easter to those that celebrate it with more than just chocolate.

AnnieD said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 9m
Easter baskets! (1 of 2 pics) #nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest
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Translation: "..by request" means they refused to pose.

Meagler said...

I am going with Mady and Cara got a huge basket from the easter Bunny as well, and even though ever kid there age still loves the Easter Bunny, they do NOT want their friends to know they do.

One foot in childhood/one foot in adulthood :)

Unless of course the rumors are true.....

Happy Easter everyone! Here the bunny brings us only a bunny, some eggs we have to hunt for and an article of clothing! oh yes, and Easter Sunday Supper dessert!

NJGal51 said...

So I see the girls are now in to Barbie. What happened to wanting real diapers and cribs for their baby dolls? Barbie seems much more age appropriate. The boys still get Legos. I also see Cracker Jacks and Reese's PB eggs and Barnum Animal Cracks in the baskets. So much for organic!

I guess I was wrong about the kids being with Jon today. I hope they get some time with him. And yup, she's fired!

Millicent said...


Problems/Rumors: All sorts of rumors swirl about Kate smushing her “body guard.” Apparently some girl from In Touch called the bodyguards hotel room and Kate answered and demanded to know who she was and then hung up.
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Well, if Nield is cheating on his wife with TFW (and I believe he is involved in some sort of inappropriate relationship, physical or otherwise), then he's a cheater. Cheaters rarely cheat once. If he'll cheat on his long-suffering wife, he'll cheat on KrazyKate in an instant. No wonder she got angry - lol.

NJGal51 said...

I wonder if they're having fried eggs or fired eggs for dinner.

Meg said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 8m
Easter Baskets! #MakesMomHoppy #MakesKidsHoppier pic.twitter.com/54plKr8mGv

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 9m
Easter baskets! (1 of 2 pics) #nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest pic.twitter.com/GJfERK1pSu

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 38m
Home on Easter with my kids...It doesn't get anymore 'Egg-cellent' than that! Happy Easter, all! ++++++ Holiday pic's should be private. Kate if they want you for another show they would have called you 3 years ago please stop pimping the little kids out.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Julie Klegin ‏@juliemaek 18m
@Kateplusmy8 Hi kate!! Are you still running? Do u have any races coming up soon?! Would love to hear!

Any bets that she doesn't answer? LOL!

Mqgjd7 ‏@magjd7 1h
@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 and all that crap in those baskets is really too young for them..11yr old girls still into princesses???

No, it's not. They are not 11; not even 10 quite yet, and girls that age still do like princesses. Next year, maybe not...but classmates still are into the princesses and Barbies.

"Her Easter baskets remind me if a post by the STFU Parents blog about how Easter has become Christmas. Whatever happened to just eggs and candy?"

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Our baskets this year included more small toys, puzzles, coloring books, stamp sets, some new nightgowns, things like that. I'd much rather have them get something they can enjoy for some time rather than sugaring them up on candy, and putting hard-boiled eggs in a basket. You can only have so much egg salad, tuna salad, open faced hard-boiled eggs sandwiches and deviled eggs before you say, "Enough!"

I did eight dozen onion skin eggs this year, some for us, most of them for the church egg hunt. I don't want to even look at another egg for another year.

KL said...

Jumping In said... 148

#nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest.

Well, that is interesting, does this mean the twins are with their dad,
or has Kate finally succumbed a request from them? I am going with the former.
April 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM ======= The twins didn't want their picture taken and plastered all over Kate's twitter.Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 9m
Easter baskets! (1 of 2 pics) #nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest pic.twitter.com/GJfERK1pSu

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Since TFW was in Central Park with the kids last weekend (she was with them, wasn't she, folks?!) and didn't cause pandemonium, I'd certainly think a trip to church on Easter Sunday wouldn't be a problem. Didn't she complain that Jon refused to take them to
church when he had custody, and that was one of her myriad issues with him?

That's when the word "inauthentic" comes to mind. Someone who passed a plate at church to pay for her mansion has now turned a religious holiday into a photo op for her camera-ready brood.

Formerly Duped said...

I see Alexis has a bug catcher set; at least she was 'allowed' to follow her interest this time.Kate usually posts on her website- wonder why on Twitter this year, not that i really care..

Orange Crusher: That's so cool about the filming of Parenthood. I thought that dinner scene was lovely , too.!

PA Dutch Mom said...

I forgot to add to my comment that when I went shopping for some Easter candy, I checked out the price for a medium size chocolate rabbit...$5.99. Right next to the candy display was a line-up of swimsuit/beach Barbies, also $5.99 on sale. I bought the Barbie. The rabbit would have been gone in no time; the Barbie was a much better purchase!

I don't know if anyone noticed, but Easter candy this year was very expensive compared to years past...at least in this area.

AuntieAnn said...

Easter baskets! (1 of 2 pics) #nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest

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By request or did they finally demand she cut the crap and quit posting their pics? Oh dear. What's she gonna do when the tups tell her enough with the photos, too?

After looking at all those goodies and toys they get in their baskets, I'm beginning to think not only did I have a deprived childhood, but apparently so did my kids. Chocolates, candy and a few colored eggs was all the Easter Bunny left in our baskets. Then again, we actually WERE piecing and patching.

Sigh. I think I'll throw myself a pity party :o(
Just kidding.

Happy Easter everyone.


Formerly Duped said...

But then again, aren't they refusing to see him? seems funny to split the kids up on a holiday?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

#nopicsofCara/Madybyrequest

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Good for the girls standing up for themselves. If they don't even want a few Easter pics posted why on Earth would they want to go on the Today show? Or maybe that was the last straw for them.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


No, it's not. They are not 11; not even 10 quite yet, and girls that age still do like princesses.

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REALLY? Not any 10-11 year old girls I've ever known. Is this a regional thing?

The princess stage is 4-5 around here.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm betting there are major union issues with working on a holiday like Easter, so the crew has it off which means the celebs do too. I'm pretty convinced Kate is fired by now though, so what happens? Does she screw around in PA or does she get to be put up in a swag hotel in NYC while she waits for the final challenge to see if she's picked for the staff of the two contenders?

PatK said...

Perhaps the twins were not quite all dolled up enough for pics?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I guess I was wrong about the kids being with Jon today. I hope they get some time with him. And yup, she's fired!

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Wasn't she pretty quiet about Easter last year, which led us to believe it was Jon's year? If she posted I think it was after the fact or pretty low key, I can't really remember. They have even/odd holidays I believe, like most family law orders.

Even if it were Jon's year, I wouldn't put it past her to post pics from events that occurred on Friday or Saturday and pass it off as today.

NJGal51 said...

@JustTheQTip: I don't ever want to leave this room! https://vine.co/v/M1VgAQdPmqE
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If these are the rooms that the staff get I wonder what the celeb's rooms look like.

Milo is still MIA. It surprised me that she didn't jump on TFW's tweets right away.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Two of the girls got Barbies and the other got an insect city thing. I thought the general consensus was Barbies are OK for 10 year old girls...just baby dolls aren't.

KL said...

Good for the girls standing up for themselves. If they don't even want a few Easter pics posted why on Earth would they want to go on the Today show? Or maybe that was the last straw for them======== I dont think the twins want to be on another reality show either.

Formerly Duped said...

My daughter played with Barbies till about 11 years old. Mind you, this was secretly , but most of her friends would join her! It was fine with me since some girls that age were already going out with boys and wearing make-up and 'revealing' clothing.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I thought someone said the baskets have a princess theme. Barbie is more age appropriate than baby dolls, but even 10 is pushing the tail end of Barbie. Depends on what Barbie, too. At least you can get Barbies that encourage more than just growing up and having babies, like careers like doctor or girl who runs a hotdog stand at the beach (totally had that forward thinking Barbie as a kid).

I did not look at the pics and don't intend to, out of respect for the kids.

AuntieAnn said...

I still have my Barbie, Midge, Ken and Skipper from the sixties tucked away in an ancient Barbie suitcase with a broken latch. I wonder if they're worth anything? I don't play with them anymore since Ken's head fell off. ha!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

http://www.stfuparentsblog.com/post/46865928993/easter-2013-spoiled-edition#ulKQ2CBt1jZB1MXe.99

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I love that blog not just because it's so funny. I love it because it's fantastic social commentary on the state of society today. It exposes parents for what they are: ridiculous. No, it's not okay to do this to kids. You are hurting them by spoiling them, not helping them. Great quote:

"The weirdest thing is that no one ever mentions that this candy could be given away to kids who didn’t get anything for Easter (not even a 4-ft. tall gold egg shipped straight from Willy Wonka’s factory!). It’s like these parents would rather just set up all of their kids’ shit in a massive stack of candy wealth, practically creating a Candy Kingdom for the kids to play in, than donate the goods or - god forbid - tell their relatives to keep it because the kids just don’t need it. What’s up with that?"

Indeed, what's up with that?

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Sad to hear there are new pics posted of the kids. I will not look at them, either, out of respect. Here we are refusing to view the pics, while their own mother posts the pics to continue exploiting her own children. No shame, I say again, "no shame." I suppose a person would need to have that thing called conscience to feel shame. At the very least, there would be embarrassment with a normal person. I suppose to understand TFW, we would need to be like her.

Happy Easter to all!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Indeed, what's up with that?
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A society buried in commercialism.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

jolie Jacquelyn said... 146
Admin...

I know you've been watching BBC's The Apprentice, & wonder if you have a link for full-length episodes of season 3.

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I just found out that the short 10 minute clips I found will automatically roll over to the next 10 minute clip, & so on, until the full one hour show is over.

getofftwitter said...

I saw the pics of the Easter baskets. If anyone noticed, that the girls got large cloth lined baskets and the boys got smaller wire uncloth lined baskets. I know it's kind of nit picking, but. The girls baskets, look fancy, the boys look, like it was thrown together asap.

I wonder if that trip to Toy-r-us, before Kate went to NYC, was what the kids got for Easter, you know you get to pick it out, but can't have till Easter.
I would call this guilt buying. Probably her friend/make-up/whatever, Deanna, made up the baskets, or did the kids make up their own baskets, but could not touch till Easter?
She is a trip!

TLC stinks said...

The twins are too old for the Easter Bunny stuff. They did not want their pictures taken because it would be embarrassing. Here it comes, Kate....Karma.

TLC stinks said...

Someone said upthread that just because she posted pictures today doesn't mean they got baskets this morning. I think the nannies put those baskets together. Not Kate's style AT ALL. Kate does not have guilt when she leaves the kids. She gave the nannies the money and they did the baskets.

getofftwitter said...

Auntann: depends on what condition your Barbies are in. In new like condition a couple of $100, in a good condition about $30-$50. If you have complete clothes sets, they are worth a lot. Check on e-bay. that's where I check to see how much things are or if they are selling.

I finely finished my Doctor Who scarf. It is 24 ft 4 in long, that does not include the tassels on either end, and those are 7 inch long. With tassels:25 ft 6in long.

Formerly Duped said...

Well, I still make up baskets for my early 20 's age kids LOL! The same baskets they grew up with. They still love the Cadbury cream eggs, Peter Rabbit theme chocolates ,Lindt's bunnies, Reece's PB Bunnies...one of those traditions you just can't quit! But it was always just a few things.

When I grew up in Canada I received ONE Laura Secord chocolate-covered cream egg, a real treat we always felt lucky to get ;made it last for days.

Happy Easter.

JMO said...

Kate will blame Jon, and the sheep will blame Jon AND the kids of course, but I for one will be glad to see the kids have THEIR OWN VOICE for once! No mommy or daddy, no 'fan' or 'hater', no Robert. It will come straight from the kids who lived it.
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The newest tweets and posts are simply ridiculous!! TFW will fly by the seat of her pants, as long as possible. And include her kids every step of the way, and as much as possible.

All About Kate!

Formerly Duped said...

TLC, how are the baskets not Kate's style? She usually gives the buys Lego, and the girls whatever they are into, plus candy. The only thing missing is her Bunny Munny store and egg hunt as far as I can tell...but you well could be right.

Localyocul said...

There is no doubt in my mind hat the toys in the baskets are the you from the Toys r Us pics

Serendipity said...

The twins are too old for the Easter Bunny stuff. They did not want their pictures taken because it would be embarrassing. Here it comes, Kate....Karma.

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You're never too old for Easter bunny stuff. I think that the twins are just sick and tired of being put on display.

Serendipity said...

I guess I was wrong about the kids being with Jon today. I hope they get some time with him. And yup, she's fired!

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Couldn't they have spent Easter morning with her, and then gone off to Jon's for the rest of the day and overnight? There's no school on Easter Monday.

PA Dutch Mom said...

REALLY? Not any 10-11 year old girls I've ever known. Is this a regional thing?

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I guess so. We're really backward here...haven't yet caught up to the rest of the world. We've given up the prairie dresses, though and retired our rotary dial phones! ;)

I was shopping at Penney yesterday -- they just re-did their Disney section and there were a few families there with girls about the age of the Gosselins, picking out Disney princess flip-flops, some hair accessory sets and looking for Frozen nighties (not easy to find right now)!

admin asked (Easter becoming commecialized): "Indeed, what's up with that?"
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Tweet responded: "A society buried in commercialism."

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I guess I better go sit in a corner for a long-time out, since I'm contributing to a society buried in commercialism, but I'd rather give kids an Easter basket with some educational puzzles, workbooks, small toys such as bubble sets for the bath or a new box of crayons (nothing expensive) than load them up with peanut butter cups and marshmallow peeps.

Serendipity said...

Why did she have to post a picture of the kids with their baskets? WHY? This is an addiction with her; an obsession and she just can't help it. The Twitter world did not have to see what the kids got for Easter. Is this just a big FU to Jon...showing him that she will do whatever she wants to do, and if that includes plastering the kids pictures on Easter on the internet, that's exactly what she will do. There is no reason for it. Just one time I'd like to see her respect their privacy and just shut the heck up.

She has to be so lacking in self-esteem that by doing this she is able to validate to herself and to her fans what a good mother she is. I've never seen anything like it. It really is a sad situation for everyone involved.

PatK said...

Serendipity said... 191

You're never too old for Easter bunny stuff. I think that the twins are just sick and tired of being put on display.

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I don't think the younger twin is tired of it. But I still think neither of them were "photo-ready" when she was taking the pics, so they opted out.

Berks Neighbor said...

Can someone explain to me what those blue clipboards are that are hanging on the back of each chair that the children sit on? You can see them is a couple of the pictures TFW posted. Is it a list of stuff the kids have to do? Where they are allowed to sit? Anyone able to do a better screen shot to see what's listed on them (one you can see a bit of the front of it).

Ex Nurse said...

Formerly Duped said... 134
Ex- Nurse: Yes, I agree about the acting in parenthood, and I do like Mae as well. Can you believe she was the toddler daughter in When a Man Loves a Woman with Meg Ryan & Andy Garcia? She was good even then. So she's a child actress who seems to have reached adulthood successfully! (as far as I know)
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She was also the little girl in Hope Floats. I also watched Arrested Develop,emt, and didn't recognize her in the part of Michael Cera's plain jane girlfriend, Anne ( or bland, as she was called). Hard to believe It is the same actress playing Amber, who just drips with personality.

Flimsy Flamsy--yes, I am having lots of time with grandson. He will be two months old tomorrow, and is an angel. In May, I will have him all day, once a week.

foxy said...

Berks Neighbor...maybe the clipboards on their chairs are instructions as to which order they are to remove things from the basket and which order they are to eat their treats.

Carezee said...

I don't think you are ever too old for an Easter basket. I still make up baskets for my 2 daughters who are in their twenties and there boyfriends. Not to mention my husband always looks forward to his every year. I fill them with things for grooming like shampoo and body wash, socks, etc and their favorite candy. They love it because it is like getting stocking stuffers for Easter.

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