Sunday, July 28, 2013

The morality of freebies

Reality T.V. often makes a spectacle of lavishing families with expensive gifts and trips. Usually, for free.

The Duggars in China

Kristin Wong, an award-winning writer and film maker (MSN, Forbes), has been thinking a lot about the morality of personal finance lately. In a recent blog she tackled the question of whether it is moral to accept a freebie you don't really need or want. Kristin had this to say about this controversial issue:



Recently, I took advantage of a free pair of movie tickets to see “The Lone Ranger,” a movie I really have no desire to see. But the tickets were free! And they were limited, so without giving it much thought, I nabbed them. I needed them; they were free.
The Roloffs in Hawaii
Practically, this may have been a good decision. After all, it could be a fun, free date night idea. A good, cheap way to spend a Friday night with Brian.


But morally, this was kind of a crappy thing for me to do. Because maybe a hard-working mom saw the ‘Free Lone Ranger Ticket!’ link. And maybe she got excited because her daughter wanted to see it — but oops! Someone who doesn’t even appreciate the movie already got the last one because, “*shrug* It’s free.”
Part of being frugal, at least the moral part of it, is not taking more than what you need — not just because you can’t afford it, but because you want to leave more for everyone else. In this way, I think there is morality in thrift. What I did wasn’t frugal. It was cheap.

To me, the ongoing cheap vs. frugal debate proves that there’s morality in frugality. When does your frugality negatively affect others? Just because it’s a practical, sound financial decision for your budget doesn’t mean it’s a good decision overall. There are ethical questions to consider, which makes it seem like there is indeed morality in personal finance.
Money-related issues go beyond a cost-benefit analysis. We have to ask ourselves, is this hurting anyone?

Thanks for your common "cents", Kristin.

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Dmasy said...

I know there is a competition here because more than a few of you think that Anderson Cooper is YOUR boyfriend. (Of course, Admin wins!)

I want to stake my claim first. Rob Lowe was on the Ellen show today.

I am wiping the drool off my chin. No fighting now -- he is MY boyfriend.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate's first cookie tweet:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 28 Jul
Nothing says school is about to start like 673 baked and packaged baked goods! pic.twitter.com/A0FeEtzWxp

Kate's second cookie tweet:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 28 Jul
We Baked-wh pies: choc &pumpkin, choc chip, m&m,choc covered moon balls,snickerdoodles, oatmeal creme pies, blondies, pbutter blossoms&more

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She then sat back and let the ooohs and ahhhh's flow along with the "You're so amazing" (although it was more like "your") and "you're a great mom" blah, blah, blah.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Summer Days And Nights said... 195

Question about Twitter (don't have an account and don't want one!). On the search realtime link that I use, is there any way to see the entire TL tweets going back several months?
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You can go to Tweet Tunnel and see old tweets:

http://tweettunnel.com/reverse.php

Rhymes with Witch said...

Dmasy - I stand in awe. I would not dream of attempting to usurp your position re: RL.
I have also gracefully (please note!) absented myself from the AC competition.

Honestly, since Davy Jones passed, I remain bereft.

Summer Days And Nights said...

You can go to Tweet Tunnel and see old tweets:

http://tweettunnel.com/reverse.php

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Thanks! But isn't that for one particular tweeter? How do you see the entire conversations between all of the tweeters?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Johnny Depp is da bomb!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Summer Days and Nights, I don't know if there is such a place where you can see several months worth.

Kate is a twit said...

Tweet-do you have any idea how tweettunnel figures out your friends? Is it calculated by who you tweet to most often?

On tweettunnel, TFW's circle of friends include Milo, Emily, Barb Gilmer, Leigh Shahan, Austin, dowd(the one from Ireland), Goody and last but not least----Irishfan!!

Sandie would not be too happy to see that. She definitely does not like irishfan.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 6
Tweet-do you have any idea how tweettunnel figures out your friends? Is it calculated by who you tweet to most often?
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I'm thinking so but it doesn't always seem accurate to me. Irishfan? Really? That doesn't seem right.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Rob Lowe? How retro of you Dmasy!

Kate is a twit said...

Oops, correction-I left Paige off the list of TFW's circle of friends on tweettunnel. Austin is not on that list.

BTW, speaking of Austin. He tweeted that he got an Associate's degree in college, and that he plans to go for his Bachelor's. Everyone was congratulating him, including Kate. But this is what Nikki tweets him, rather than congratulating him:

Nikki ‏@Nikki_C_Wilson 22h
@TheAustinMartin @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8: hey Austin, any word on team kate bracelets?

Austin replied to her:

Austin Martin ‏@TheAustinMartin 21h
@Nikki_C_Wilson @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 I completely forgot! I'll work in it!

That made Nikki happy:

Nikki ‏@Nikki_C_Wilson 21h
@TheAustinMartin @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8: Awesome! Still dying for one over here lol ♥♥

And she still didn't congratulate him.

Kate is a twit said...

I'd take Mark Harmon any day, but unfortunately Pam Dawber's already got him.

Kate is a twit said...

Tweet-it didn't sound right to me either, especially because Paige hardly tweets to her anymore. Maybe it's calculated by those that have tweeted to her the most. It makes more sense that way.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Well, I guess TFW isn't doing that summer get-together with Austin and Em. Getting his degree would have been a great time to have a little party. Oh, and the bracelet thing is one more time TFW let Austin down, but he doesn't seem to mind.

Nikki tries waaaaay too hard.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Twit-That makes a lot more sense. She rarely tweets to MsGoody.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 28m

@Kateplusmy8 Continue 2live ur life w/high standards & big goals...anyone that wants 2b a part of ur life needs 2think likewise! :)

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You've got to be kidding me. This, from a modern-day Gladys Kravitz. If nothing else, sheeple are amusing, but I'm tired of scratching my head!

KyPastor said...

I checked the Gospel for Sunday's sermon text. It is the story of the farmer whose ego about having more and more riches caused him to lose sight of what really mattered.

Tucker's Mom said...

Yeah, let's wear Team X Fauxleb bracelets! Forget that these bracelets are awareness bracelets to support very needy causes, like cancer, AIDS and alzheimers, when Kate Gosselin needs our support! Isn't that JUST as important?!
This makes me *sick* and these imprudent followers rallying for "team kate" bracelets are degenerates for usurping awareness bracelets and debasing them for a cause like a divorced millionaire who has healthy children, more than what 10 people could ever want or need, and a pile of money to keep her company if she's so lonely. Her perceived problems and slights are not real. People dying, losing their homes and living with disabilities have real problems. Not Kate.
What is so bad about her life that one would need to don a team kate bracelet and take up her cause? Get a clue!
The misplaced sense of needing to help is only fueled by Kate never saying that she is OK. Folks, Kate is OK and lives the life of the 1%.
Give your compassion where it's needed and stop being manipulated like addle-minded cult members.
And for the love of RV enthusiasts everywhere, don't parade around Walmart parking lots with Team Kate signs raised above your heads with Kate-banded arms.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

PatK said... 189
I'm not sure Kate and the Krows yet understand the difference between threats/bullying and giving opinions.

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No but fortunately law enforcement and the courts do. They spend their time quietly gathering information for REAL lawsuits, like going after people who have stolen millions for the government. They don't make a fuss, they just gather and file. Like what happened to Teresa and Joe this week. Authorities gathered the info on something that was REAL and a huge problem, then FILED. No fuss, no fanfare.

Blowing In The Wind said...

And for the love of RV enthusiasts everywhere, don't parade around Walmart parking lots with Team Kate signs raised above your heads with Kate-banded arms.

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LOL, Tucker! I don't think anyone will forget that one anytime soon. That was as stupid as it gets. Wearing pink rubber Kate bracelets would be second on the list. But Nikki desperately wants one. Go figure.

Anonymous said...

I call dibs on Shemar Moore, ladies!

franky

NJGal51 said...

You can have all those gents that you've mentioned. I'm sitting here watching 24 and I must say that I love me some Keifer Sutherland!

Tucker's Mom said...

Jeez, get a thick rubber band and write K8 on it with your Hello Kitty Magic Unicorn Marker and place it on your wrist.
Then, when you feel sorry for poor, poor Kate, give that band a big old stretch and SNAP IT really, really hard on your wrist so that you WAKE UP and smell the manipulation.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Take your time, Kate, but hurry up...waiting with baited breath. I don't know why Milo is so anxious, since she knows everything there is to know about Kate, and then some:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 LOL....love it when ur wordy! Take ur time....we don't mind! :)

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@Kateplusmy8 Well, we know U can be wordy..:) Is this going 2turn into a #TellAllTuesday? Waiting N anticipation >>

Vivian Tran ‏@TranVivianC 4m
@Kateplusmy8 Is The Answers Ready Yet?

No, they isn't, or she would have let you know...gotta get to that website and promote the book!

mom to 2 said...

I would hope that someone would tell her that it's not a good idea to put personal stuff like your phone number on a public twitter or to email it to someone you don't know.


Or discuss it on a blog. So anyone who tweets Kate is up for discussion here? I'm not so sure this is right. Anyone else?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Then, when you feel sorry for poor, poor Kate, give that band a big old stretch and SNAP IT really, really hard on your wrist so that you WAKE UP and smell the manipulation.

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Good one, Tucker's Mom! I read this as "WAKE UP and smell the marijuana!" I guess that works, too.

It's been a long day!

Another thought -- get a wrist band Tat with Kate's name on it. That way it will always be with you. No need to snap anything. Or, if you're more seriously in love, maybe a heart over your heart.

Shelby said...

In this day and age when so many people think only of themselves, it was good to know that there are still some left who pay it forward.
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But whoever did it, did it anonymously. He/she didn't stand in front of the DOORS to a restaurant and make a spectacle. He/she just did it. At least that's where I see the objection.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I actually think it would be better to stick to discussing the fans only to the extent Kate is interacting with them. We have discussed this before. For example I see no reason to discuss Gypsi's life and ex husband unless Kate decides to talk about it too. She hasn't as far as I know. Most people do restrict discussions to Kate's interactions, which is appreciated.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sorry it's not her ex, rather he's passed away.

Blowing In The Wind said...

irishfan ‏@irishfan47 2m
@Kateplusmy8 darn I missed question time.. Wait I have one, when r u going to let me take you out?

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The Irish Creeper gets more bold. Wouldn't it be funny if this really were a Catfish...an 80 year old woman in a retirement community?

JoyinVirginia said...

Dibs on Tim Gunn!

fidosmommy said...


The Irish Creeper gets more bold. Wouldn't it be funny if this really were a Catfish...an 80 year old woman in a retirement community?

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You mean like Betty White on that old codger
show she has on TV now? Senior citizens causing
raised eyebrows and gasps of disbelief? I don't care for the show but it sounds like they would happily catfish someone.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

For example I see no reason to discuss Gypsi's life and ex husband unless Kate decides to talk about it too. She hasn't as far as I know. Most people do restrict discussions to Kate's interactions, which is appreciated.

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She did. She tweeted:

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@gypsi001 aw...thinking of you.... xo

She actually acknowledged Gypsi's tweet/picture.

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 29
Dibs on Tim Gunn!
July 30, 2013 at 6:40 PM
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Make it work!

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Have any of you seen this short clip, "It's Not About the Nail"? The hubs just showed it to me, and I cracked up because I have used the line: I don't want you to fix my problem, I just want you to listen!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg

And I have a malaprop alert! Tonight Dr. Malaprop made a yummy fruit salad to go with our supper. He called it "a delicious fruit melody." Tee Hee I love that guy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She did. She tweeted:

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Ah ok, I stand corrected.

Shelby said...

So anyone who tweets Kate is up for discussion here? I'm not so sure this is right. Anyone else?

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For example I see no reason to discuss Gypsi's life and ex husband unless Kate decides to talk about it too. She hasn't as far as I know. Most people do restrict discussions to Kate's interactions, which is appreciated.

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My opinion, tho no one has asked (LOL) is that if it's on twitter, leave it on twitter. Why bring that cesspool here?


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There are two types of tweets that I find especially irritating to see re-posted. One is the vile and vicious and often disgusting things people like Goody tweet. Why give it attention? The other is some of the outrageous accusations from some of the non-fans. I.e. the kids are in school 13 hours a day! Stuff like that. People will post that and ask, is that true? Obviously it's not true, so why give that attention either? Never understood that.

JoyinVirginia said...

Tuckers Mom, I just wasn't Tim to go doing with me. And give me sewing tips. And hang out at home with us for a while.
I know someone who attended Parsons school of design, Tim was one of his teachers, and this person says Tim is exactly like he is on TV, he is very nice in person, and he is, above all, a wonderful teacher.
I love it when you hear about a celeb and find out they really are nice!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

When TFW tweeted she'd be answering questions this am I checked her blog and her fake counter. There were 990,003 page views (cough, cough) at that time. Now that she's answered the questions I checked the fake counter again and there were 1,005,093 page views (cough, choke, sputter). That's 15,090 page views (snort, giggle, gurgle). Although we know nowhere near that many people viewed her blog, there has not been one book sold in 22 hours.

So what she got out of this exercise is a bunch of fake hits on her blog. Such is the life of TFW.

JoyinVirginia said...

Augggh! Auto correct strikes again.
I want Tim Gunn to go SHOPPING with me!

fidosmommy said...

Tuckers Mom, I just wasn't Tim to go doing with me

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We'll have none of THAT, young lady! :-)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Mrs Ingle ‏@Kaseymommy89 1m
@Kateplusmy8 what grade is ur kids in now
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I guess this is actually proper grammar since her 6 are a unit--like The Borg.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

And I have a malaprop alert! Tonight Dr. Malaprop made a yummy fruit salad to go with our supper. He called it "a delicious fruit melody." Tee Hee I love that guy.

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I love his Malaprops! What was the melody...was the fruit singing Banana Boat Song, Little Green Apples, Lemon Tree, and I Heard It Through The Grapevine?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Why does the Nikki fan keep tweeting a picture of her child to Kate? Is there something special about this other than that she is holding one of Kate's books? Is Kate even acknowledging it?

Layla said...

Mrs Malaprop,

I have one for you! I overheard our little neighbor boy say to my son, "I had a lunch you'd say that".

When one of my boys was little he'd say "behead" instead of "ahead". "I'm right behead of you!". Too cute! Morbid, but cute. He would also say, "Mommy, I'm being cereal (serious)".

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I guess this is actually proper grammar since her 6 are a unit--like The Borg.

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Sheeple do have a problem with subject-verb agreement, and they can't seem to be able to conjugate the verb "see."

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Sleepless, lol! No, the "melody" was fresh pineapple, kiwi, and watermelon. It was really good. My guy is nutso for watermelon. As long as it's watermelon season, we are never without one in this house. I'm always a little happy when he tastes that end-of-season melon & decides it's time to give up until next year. I like watermelon, but they take up lots of fridge space, and there are always sticky spots in the kitchen that apparently only I notice. Ugh!

Joy, my husband's cousin is a student at Parsons right now. It sounds like a very tough school. At least when school's in session, her FB posts are full of drama about how she hasn't slept in days because of all the schoolwork she needs to get done.

JoyinVirginia said...

I wonder what Tim Gunn would think of my green crocs? Or my pink flip flops?
maybe he could come to our next virtual get together and give fashion advice.

Connie said...

Regarding the generosity to strangers and not being offended: A young friend of mine is an excellent, kind, patient young mother with four little, close-in-age boys. (Young twin babies, and a 3 and a 5 year old.) She has the patience of a saint, and loves those lucky little boys beyond measure.

They are not poor or needy, bless their hearts.

She had to take them all inside the grocery store for a quick trip to get some urgent items. As they were standing in line to pay, some kind gentleman was behind them.

He was so impressed with her gentle mothering, that he took a $50.00 dollar bill out of his wallet, and handed it to her. He told her he was so impressed by her sweetness to her little boys that he just HAD to reward her in some way.

The only way he could think of was to reward her with money! She was surprised, delighted, not at all insulted, and so thankful that she had been a good example to someone.

She took the money, thanked him profusely, and walked on air the rest of the day.

readerlady said...

I have dibs on Tom Selleck and Jeffrey Dean Morgan! Hey, if there can be sister wives, there can also be brother husbands!

Anonymous said...

Joy, Gunn is kidnda cute, but Shemar is just so much..moore..lol.
not to mention the way he says baby-girl..lamp

So now you get how franky had so many typos that some loved to draw attention to?.

Lol, learning curve the stupid smart-android knows better apps.

good luck, love your posts btw..c u l8r..bwahahaha

franky

NJGal51 said...

franky - I have to agree with you about Shemar. Criminal Minds is one of my favorite shows.

Melissa NV said...

Lol, learning curve the stupid smart-android knows better apps.

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There are no typos in this, but I still don't understand it!

Must be me! :)

Melissa NV said...

Sheeple do have a problem with subject-verb agreement, and they can't seem to be able to conjugate the verb "see."

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The use of they're, their, and there seems to give them trouble, as well as you're and your, and plurals/plural possessive nouns. There are work sheets online on which they could practice. Maybe instead of watching Kate reruns on Netflix 24/7 they could work on these problem areas!

Call Me Crazy said...

Joy - "Tim to go doing with me" sounds far more intriguing than going shopping.

franky - I am with you on Shemar and with Tweetle on Johnny.

Dmasy - Years ago I was with my family in Las Vegas. We were walking around the Bellagio and "Lowe" and behold, guess who we saw walking in our direction, just a few feet away? Yup. Your boyfriend. And he is every bit as good looking in person as he is on screen.

fidosmommy said...

Franky, I have always loved your posts, typos and all.

Melissa NV said...

I guess this is actually proper grammar since her 6 are a unit--like The Borg.

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lol!! I guess the twins are a unit, too!

its your girl erica ‏@ericareneebadg3 13m
@Kateplusmy8 does cara and mady get along ?

Meagler said...

I see Kate has answered the same old questions over and over again. The words may be different but its the same ol bs, time after time.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

TFW needs help how to write an interesting blog post. This just....isn't how it's done. Pioneer Woman does an Ask PW about once a YEAR and it's funny and full of photos. Not only is this her second in 10 days but she says there's still a part two coming! She kept throwing in the crookbook and it's annoying. Good grief.

She can't seriously be giving driving advice to a teen. This from a woman caught going 88 mph in a 65 zone. She wished that the cameras were still around when they got a sinus attack and motion sickness on the airplane. She still wants to film her poor children when they are ill and suffering. She is one sick woman. When has this family flown anywhere since the show? She says the kids miss the trips but now they're flying somewhere? HUH? If they are perfectly capable of flying somewhere without the show, then why the heck do the kids miss the trips so much? Get on a plane and go somewhere, apparently you can.

"Aren’t all moms the same tho?"

Yeah, she was getting a LOT of help when she had those blogging gigs, folks.

In regards to filming again same old same old except she said this " However, life has gone on and that’s okay with all of us too… :)"

That is the most SANE comment she has EVER said about the stupid filming they did for so long. Yes, TFW, life can and will go on. Your kids will not suffer or miss out on anything without being filmed. They are not deprived of anything they need. They are finding their own friends and interests and making their own lives without the cameras and are FINE. It's over, go on with life, everyone will BE FINE. Thank you, TFW. This SHOULD be okay with every single one of them. That is HEALTHY to just move on from something that's OVER.

She admits Alexis DOES get up early but but but it's not until 8am. Haha, looks like TFW read the Jon interview. She couldn't NOT read it, she's obsessed with him.

Someone said earlier her lying has been toned down since Jon put her in her place. I agree. She is admitting things are fine without filming, she is admitting to help, she mentioned the babysitter in this, she admits okay okay not all the kids wake up at all the same time, okay they are all different. He really did put TFW in her place and this sure is a nice change.

One thing I forgot to mention earlier, I found it very telling that most of the kids only want two or three kids. Only one of them wanted four. And no one said six kids or eight kids. I think that says a lot about how tough it is to be a multiple and how screwed up they have been raised such that not a single one of them expressed any desire to have anything more than just twins and a few singletons. I think they know exactly how much this whole pack thing really stinks sometimes. I feel bad for them.

Ingrid said...

"Tweet said That's 15,090 page views"

Some of them are Milo impatiently checking and rechecking to see if they were posted. Atleast 14,000 of them I would guess.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

readerlady said... 48
I have dibs on Tom Selleck and Jeffrey Dean Morgan! Hey, if there can be sister wives, there can also be brother husbands!
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LOL!

OH MY!! He's gorgeous

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Uh oh...

irishfan ‏@irishfan47 16m
@Kateplusmy8 Hi, thought I had a good question :) Starting to thing you avoiding me on purpose:(

Mel said...

The local radio station was talking yesterday about how BORING it is when celebrities talk about how tired they are because they are *so busy*. Like, get over yourself already. They were talking about how good celebrities don't do that. Just the loser ones.

They were talking about how people who talk like that are lazy. Want something for nothing. And we just plain don't want to hear about it.

Hi TFW! Something to consider....

Dmasy said...

Joy, your idea of a virtual party with Tim Gunn is very entertaining. I would clear my calendar!

Call Me Crazy, I am not surprised that you haven't forgotten crossing paths with Rob Lowe.

I want him for my boyfriend with his good looks and I want his Sam from West Wing personality. He was natural and funny on the Ellen show yesterday. They were delightful together.

TLC stinks said...

Actress/comedian Eileen Brennan passed away (remember her in "Private Benjamin"?). Here's what she said in a 1988 Associated Press interview about playing "meanies":

"....[meanies] have no sense of humor. People who are mean or unkind or rigid---think about it---cannot laugh at themselves. If we can't laugh at ourselves and the human condition, we're going to be mean."

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I immediately thought of Kate Gosselin. Her attempts on the show to make a joke were strained because she is indeed humorless (and mean).

NJGal51 said...

I noticed that when TFW answered questions about the kids sleeping late that she only mentioned the girls (all by name) but didn't mention any of the boys AT ALL. Interesting.

Over And Out said...

irishfan ‏@irishfan47 16m
@Kateplusmy8 Hi, thought I had a good question :) Starting to thing you avoiding me on purpose:(

I saw that he hanging around waiting for his question to be answered, and then was a bit upset last night because she didn't answer. Is there trouble on the Emerald Isle?

JoyinVirginia said...

No one has put dibs on Nathan Filion yet, so I want him too! We should have a virtual party with all our fantasy boy friends, and they will all be charming, witty, Brilliant conversationalists, and bring us our favorite drinks!

TLC stinks said...

In her Q&A, of course there is the standard question of do you miss filming. She again puts words in the kids' mouths that they miss the crew and still keep in touch with a few. I believe the only crew member she keeps in touch with is Steve. I doubt the kids, as young as they were, would have formed much of any attachment to a crew member except for Steve who has been the only constant in their lives.

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Layla - oh my goodness, that is so cute! I love it when little kids try their hardest to use words the right way & it comes out *almost* right. When my son was little he mixed probably & maybe together and got "playbe". As in, "Playbe tomorrow we can go to the park!"

Tim Gunn? Really? I don't know ladies. . . He's probably a nice guy and all, but I can't go for a guy who knows more about fashion than I do. Not that I know a lot, mind you!

TLC stinks said...

It seems to me that Kate's questioners have no common sense or limited IQ. I guess it takes one to know one.

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Readerlady - can you imagine having brother husbands!?! That is SO funny! One day when I was feeling overwhelmed with all I had to get done, I declared to my husband, "I need a wife!" Lol. And that same day he had the nerve to complain about having clean laundry to put away. I told him that if I dropped dirty clothes into a basket, and they came back clean, dried, and nicely folded, and ALL I had to do was put them away??? Well, I would think I had died and gone to heaven!

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Administrator said...

"She wished that the cameras were still around when they got a sinus attack and motion sickness on the airplane. She still wants to film her poor children when they are ill and suffering. She is one sick woman."

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TFW wished that the cameras were still around to film her children's sinus attacks and motion sickness?

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Poor kids. They really are a carnival sideshow act to TFW.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


TFW wished that the cameras were still around to film her children's sinus attacks and motion sickness?

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Yes. She did. When asked if there were times something has happened she wished the cameras were there, that is what she said. Can you believe it?

My God, how about I wish cameras were there to capture the proud moment when I sent my kids off to third grade, or when Cara scored her 50th goal, or the moment where I got the first proofs for my crookbook or tested the recipes.

No it's I wish you had been there to capture the madness of my children sick and throwing up, what an episode that would be! In all seriousness, something is very wrong with her and I think something will always be very wrong with her.

LB said...

I think the hook & bait for another Q&A was to have more traffic for her website for revenue and pre-ordering the dang cookbook, nothing more. I will not touch her website with a 10-foot pole. I also have no interest to look at someone else's children, especially since that distrubing the shout-out from her and her fans to see children in PJs and swimsuits. WTF!! And I actually am suspecting that she may have an IP tracking thing installed ever since she got BV invovled, all the more reason not to visit it.

Mel said...

Here's an idea for TFW to write a blog post about.

She could write about those organic, natural, re-usable sandwich bags. She could give us some links/sources, talk about which is her favorite, and why. She could talk about cost per use of those versus the plastic disposable bags. At what point does cost/use justify itself....3 kids, 5 kids, 8 kids, whichever.

She could even give us some links to patterns to make our own, and imply that she herself has whipped up 8,888 of them!

And no, TFW, we don't believe you when you say that you wash/rinse/dry/re-use those plastic bags. You are WAY too lazy to do it. If anyone does it at your house, it's the hired help.

I digress.

With school shopping season starting, it would be a timely post. Way better than talking about how the low-life tow truck driver saved her, and implying the Audi dealer gave her a free car cuz she's so utterly cool.

Mel said...

TFW wished that the cameras were still around to film her children's sinus attacks and motion sickness?
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Only because the crew would have been there to take care of the kids, and she wouldn't have had to do it herself.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

JoyinVirginia said... 67

No one has put dibs on Nathan Filion yet, so I want him too! We should have a virtual party with all our fantasy boy friends, and they will all be charming, witty, Brilliant conversationalists, and bring us our favorite drinks!

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May I bring Vin Diesel, George Clooney, and Dwayne Johnson(The Rock) to your virtual party?

Formerly Duped said...

I thought it was a bit odd that TFW said Hannah and Leah sleep till 10 AM..I never heard of a child that age sleeping that late on a regular basis! Also that the kids make cereal breakfasst and watch TV- I guess Kate is sleeping in really late! So much for the huge breakfasts she wrote down on CWS for Kendra to prepare.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I thought it was a bit odd that TFW said Hannah and Leah sleep till 10 AM..I never heard of a child that age sleeping that late on a regular basis!

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I also thought this odd. The younger kids only just turned 9. Puberty is when sleep patterns usually change. Sleeping until 10 would be highly unusual for just a nine year old (but normal for a 13 year old.) The average nine year old needs nine hours of sleep. Does that mean they're going to bed at 1 am? Hard to imagine a child that young being able to stay awake.

Even so, she said Mady and Cara would sleep ALL DAY if she let them? Even that's extreme and unusual. As usual everything is always described as so over the top. The kids don't sleep in just a few hours--no they sleep in four or five hours or ALL DAY. Maybe they are unusual kids and this is all true, but Kate has become the preverbal boy who cried wolf and everything she says sounds suspicious.

That also told me that if they have all the time in the world to sleep in until 10am or all day, chances are they have very few organized summer activities lined up, which are often in the mornings.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Mel I remember seeing or maybe reading some interview with an older generation celeb talking once about how he has the best job. He shows up at the set at 5 am when he's up ANYWAY at his age, does his crossword puzzle, sits there until they call him, says some lines, then goes back to his crossword puzzle. I also recall celebs like Brad Pitt admitting he has an easy, fun, and cushy job.

You are right, it is boring to complain. There IS a lot of hard work involved in being a celeb in terms of long hours on sets and constant upkeep of your image and being so public, but it's not the same kind of work that someone who pulls an overnight shift at a factory and has to take care of their family on minimum wage. As long as you are of legal age and ready to join the workforce, it should not be a great burden. I think many hopefully most celebs realize this is a dream job and they're very lucky and they have no right to complain.

Kate is a twit said...

I saw this tweet on Kate's timeline.

BeaCharmed ‏@BeasBookNook 44m
Dear heaven, Kate Gosselin has a book out. It's a cookbook though so maybe it's okay - https://www.netgalley.com/catalog/show/id/34071 …

So I went to the site in the link, and it has Kate's book with the same description that is on Amazon and on the HCI website. However, there is an added part that I haven't seen anywhere else:

Notes:

* Menus, activities, and ideas for creating special traditions, including Friday movie night with make-it-yourself pizzas, an autumn apple picking party, and pumpkin carving with homemade pumpkin cookies.

* Successful strategies for curbing picky eaters, grocery shopping with kids, encouraging kids to help with meals, making lunches that actually get eaten, and creative uses for leftovers.

* Each recipe is sized for the Gosselin family—to feed a crew of nine! Easily adaptable for smaller families, home cooks can halve recipes or freeze for quick mid-week meals.

I also checked out her book on HCI's website to see if they have lowered their price but it's still selling there for $18.36. However, I did click on the tab that said "Read an Excerpt" and 2 of her recipes are posted. I don't think they were ever posted on her site.

You can see them here, just click on "Read an Excerpt".

http://www.hcibooks.com/p-4290-kate-gosselins-love-is-in-the-mix.aspx

Ex Nurse said...

Admn said....
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, I found it very telling that most of the kids only want two or three kids. Only one of them wanted four. And no one said six kids or eight kids. I think that says a lot about how tough it is to be a multiple and how screwed up they have been raised such that not a single one of them expressed any desire to have anything more than just twins and a few singletons. I think they know exactly how much this whole pack thing really stinks sometimes. I feel bad for them.

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Didn't Kate say that when she was growing up, she thought she missed out because her parents had to many kids? Anyone else remember this?

Anyway, I don't take this to seriously. Many kids think it would be better in another family, sometimes. Most of the "onlys" that were friends of my kids, envied having siblings. I wanted to be an only child when I was a kid, too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is hysterical. Metro has an article about the worst, STUPIDEST fans on twitter. I have to say they sure five TFW's following a run for their money:

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/31/top-5-celebrities-with-very-stupid-fans-one-direction-chris-brown-justin-bieber-and-more-3905954/?ITO=facebook

And this? "The day you have to plead with your fans to stop sending death threats to other female artists is the day you change the locks, cancel every upcoming concert and quietly wait in hope for them to forget you exist. A bit like dumping someone the cowardly way but with millions of insane, demonic obsessives demanding answers instead of one confused ex and three missed calls."

Baw-haha.

JoyinVirginia said...

This made me smile today. Check it out, maybe you will like it too! I saw these guys live last week, great show, maybe they can entertain at the virtual party!
Eric Brace and Peter Cooper: grandmas tattoo
Www.YouTube.com/watch?v=bY30pklEScU

Kelly H. said...

Dibs on Hugh Jackman - in whatever shape or form he is currently in.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Some kids sleep a lot longer than others, but it is odd, to me, to have 9 year olds waking at 10 and 12 year olds 'who would sleep all day'. Sounds like there is boredom fatigue at Gosselin Summer Camp. Begs the question what time TFW gets up herself, or leaves the bedroom. And the boys, do they even exist? Apparently no one has anything to do except swim this summer. Boring.

LB said...

I'm wondering if one of the reason TWF claims M & C would be sleeping all day...they are sleeping in to avoid the additional responsiblity of running the household and supervising/entertaining the younger children that TWF has delegated to them? I know she already does that as she has mentioned it many many times. It may gbeen too much to put on their shoulders. I would be depressed if I had to wake up every day knowing I had to take care of these kids by myself and not have a chance to be a kid myself!

Silimom said...

Regarding being 9 and having sleep issues - this is actually more common then you think. My 9 (almost 10) has had sleep issues since she was 3. We have had sleep studies done and there is no cause such as sleep apnea, etc. They gave us the option of putting her on a CPAP machine but we declined since that didn't seem to be her issue and the mask bothered her (she has sensory issues related to her autism).

One doctor told us that some people have what is called a Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. We have used melatonin to help and are trying light therapy. One theory is that the bright lights from electronics are contributing to sleep disorders. We have instituted a rule of no electronics an hour before bedtime and that has helped a bit.

FYI, my husband/her dad is exactly the same way. He tends to fall asleep around 1:00 am and sleeps until 10 am. Fortunately he has a job that allows him a more flexible schedule. (He's a computer engineer)

Anonymous said...

you know what really angers me? She says the kids can get jobs and pay for their own cars when the time is right. WTH She is living off THEIR money. They worked. She didn't . GOD she pisses me off.

Pam

Formerly Duped said...

Kate's fun pumpkin carving tradition? She didn't look like she was a happy camper on the show at Halloween!

She also said she rarely takes the kids to stores...

Friday Pizza Movie Night has evolved from just popcorn with a surprise!

Kate is a twit said...

I noticed when TFW was asked about the kids driving, she reiterated what she said on the Ellen show. She said "As far as cars go… I am not sure how I’ll handle that yet. I got a job and bought my own first car, so I’m sure that it I won’t handle it any differently for my kids. Buying my own car and paying for my own car insurance policy helped me to see that things cost money (!!) and therefore I took care of my car better than I probably would have if it had been bought for me."

The kids already had a job, and earned money to pay for their own cars. So she's going to make them get another job and work some more in order for them to get cars?

They've already earned them, Kate. They've already worked for them. You would not be buying the cars for them. They would be buying them for themselves with money that they earned!

She really pisses me off when she says things like that.

Kate is a twit said...

Looks like Nikki is now trying to be the new Milo, in the hopes that TFW will notice her. She tweeted pictures to TFW that TFW hasn't acknowledged, but when TFW acknowledged Milo's pictures, Nikki tweeted them again.

Nikki is now retweeting tweets of people who said they ordered the cookbook, answering questions asked of TFW, and directing people to the TFW's website to see pictures of the kids.

I guess she figures if it works for Milo, then possibly it'll work for her.

Kate is a twit said...

In other news, it looks like Nigella Lawson is very close to being divorced from Charles Saatchi. Remember when Saatchi stated publicly that HE was the one who filed for divorce? Well, according to this article it was Nigella who filed. Good for her.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/world/europe/nigella-lawson-saatchi-divorce/

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 40m
@Kateplusmy8 Guess this is why we get along....I am so N agreement w/ur parenting style...decisions on helping kids 2mature, etc! #YouRock
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Milo calls extreme celebrity worship "getting along."

Virginia Pen Mom said...

* Each recipe is sized for the Gosselin family—to feed a crew of nine! Easily adaptable for smaller families, home cooks can halve recipes or freeze for quick mid-week meals.

I also checked out her book on HCI's website to see if they have lowered their price but it's still selling there for $18.36. However, I did click on the tab that said "Read an Excerpt" and 2 of her recipes are posted. I don't think they were ever posted on her site.

You can see them here, just click on "Read an Excerpt".

http://www.hcibooks.com/p-4290-kate-gosselins-love-is-in-the-mix.aspx

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Why the heck would she size it for nine in the cookbook? I had four kids--a relatively large family--and that would have been too much for us. Why not size it for four or six?

I see a punctuation error in the preview menus as well as some style issues. The editing doesn't look professional to me. Maybe the final product will be better.

Sillimom, looks like you have your first two recipes to try out!

Over And Out said...

Milo calls extreme celebrity worship "getting along."

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Worship from afar. She doesn't even know her and they "get along." Can you imagine what it would be like if she ever actually met her in person? I'd feel sorry for Kate. Milo would be all over her like a bee around a honey pot!

Virginia Pen Mom said...

"She authored the New York Times bestselling book, Multiple Blessings, as well as the book Eight Little Faces and I Just Want You to Know."

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She has such incredible nerve ignoring Beth's writing of Multiple Blessings. Wow, TFWitch, wow.

Over And Out said...

Nikki is now retweeting tweets of people who said they ordered the cookbook, answering questions asked of TFW, and directing people to the TFW's website to see pictures of the kids.

I guess she figures if it works for Milo, then possibly it'll work for her.

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She's a strange bird...morphing into another Brownie, a Milo want-to-be, and snuggling up to Goody with DMs.

What an odd bunch. It does make things interesting, though!

TLC stinks said...

I used to sleep plenty when I was a preteen and a teenager, but I stayed up late.

I actually think Kate is such a late sleeper herself that she has no idea what the kids are doing in the morning, and I bet they are up late at night too after she has shut her bedroom door. Her bedroom is on the main floor so no telling what is going on upstairs.

As far as the kids and cars, she said she got a job and bought a car and paid her insurance. I don't recall her ever mentioning a job in high school other than babysitting. I agree the kids have already earned money for a car or two when they are 16. We bought a used vehicle for my two to share in high school. They could not afford to buy anything with their part time jobs because we limited their working hours; school grades were more important.

Wow, why did she have to make the servings in her cookbook for nine? What a joke. 4-6 servings is good enough, just double. Now it's just me and my husband, so I have to divide the ingredients in half. Simple math.

Anonymous said...

TFW will never get another tv show because her twitter feed (the tweets from her sheeple) are more entertaining than her show ever was.
Heck, it probably has higher viewership.

Who needs soap operas when you have the online twitter saga of the sheeple vying for attention from TFW making her look crazy for allowing it.

(back from lurking for a second)
>Berks Neighbor<

TLC stinks said...

LB, I agree that excessive sleeping is a sign of depression. I believe Mady and Cara are the "go-to" babysitters for Kate. Lots of responsibility for them. They are old enough to help out, but I suspect they have no choice than to watch their younger siblings day and night with explicit instructions. It used to be Jon's job, now it's theirs.

TLC stinks said...

I bet "Nikki" is not a new fan, just someone posting under a new name.

BTW, this Irishfan creep is psycho scary. Just the type to make physical contact, and that never ends well. Why she puts up with it, I don't know. Let's hope she has Steve checking him out.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I can just hear Milo laughin with complete strangers in line at the grocery store as she shares what she and her BFF TFW tweet about every day tellin them she KNOWS TFW very well and they also have "other" ways of communicatin.

Over And Out said...

lourdescasas ‏@lourdescasas5 2h
@Kateplusmy8 hi kate I am a mom also can you please be my friend going through rough time

I don't recall this one tweeting before, but she's also tweeting every celebrity under the sun, trying to find someone to help her and her kids. However, she tweeted a television station in Australia a few days ago when an abandoned baby was found, and she wants to adopt the child.

Kate certainly does attract some odd fans!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think that's a big mistake to have all the recipes for 9. Most people will have to halve them and that becomes too much of a hassle after awhile.

Over And Out said...

Why the heck would she size it for nine in the cookbook? I had four kids--a relatively large family--and that would have been too much for us. Why not size it for four or six?

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I just read that and was about to post the same thing. How many people cook for a family of nine or ten? Why do it for that many people, and then make them figure out the correct ingredients for half or a third that much? Make no sense. I wouldn't buy a cookbook with recipes that are sized for a super large family. I want it made easy...not have to do a math lesson every time I cook!

Kate is a twit said...

If they expect people with smaller families to just halve the recipes, they should include a pocket calculator with the book.

Anonymous said...

I checked with "Read an Excerpt" and read "Farm to Table Stir Fry".

She starts with, "I came up with this recipe on my own.....".

Isn't that the basic concept if you are writing a cook book or am I in a twilight zone?

Or, does it suggest "her" other recipes are not her own?

bm

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I think that's a big mistake to have all the recipes for 9. Most people will have to halve them and that becomes too much of a hassle after awhile.
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Especially for TFW fans. They can't figure out what to pack in their kids' lunches without help.

somewhere beyond the realm said...

Kate is a twit said... 90
I noticed when TFW was asked about the kids driving, she reiterated what she said on the Ellen show. She said "As far as cars go… I am not sure how I’ll handle that yet. I got a job and bought my own first car, so I’m sure that it I won’t handle it any differently for my kids. Buying my own car and paying for my own car insurance policy helped me to see that things cost money (!!) and therefore I took care of my car better than I probably would have if it had been bought for me."

The kids already had a job, and earned money to pay for their own cars. So she's going to make them get another job and work some more in order for them to get cars?

They've already earned them, Kate. They've already worked for them. You would not be buying the cars for them. They would be buying them for themselves with money that they earned!
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This is one of those situations where TFW tries to pretend the show was all about her and "the kids just were just playing in and out of the frame." Ummmmm..... no.

The PA DoL declared that these children were working. Money was ordered to be put aside for these kids for their futures. Hopefully TFW hasn't already spent it. Maybe they have a part time job for their gas and spending money, but I am in total agreeance (giggle) with you Twit- they have already worked for their cars and insurance.

somewhere beyond the realm said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
I think that's a big mistake to have all the recipes for 9. Most people will have to halve them and that becomes too much of a hassle after awhile.

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Hahahaha Kate says the recipes are sized for 9. Like she ever eats Cheddar Cheese Crusted Bean Bake and No Cheese Pizza. I wonder if she's going to include the recipe for what she eats every night- Salade en Vomitrocia.

White Organza said...

For the party at Joy's, and before anyone puts dibs on him, I'm rsvp-ing that my virtual "plus one" will be Ryan Gosling. Yes. Without his shirt. At my request. I'm assuming you ladies won't have any objections?
And I must say that Reader Lady's brother husband concept has intrigued me. If that idea ever comes to be, then opera tenor Jonas Kaufmann would be my plus-two. (He is soooo cute! And he sing like a a god. )

Mel said...

Wouldn't you want your cookbook to address the broadest audience possible?

If you're perusing a cookbook with the idea of buying, and see that you need to re-calculate the ingredient sizes, adjust the cooking time, adjust the pan size....ah, no.

I can't imagine a bigger turn-off than that!

Well, that and seeing what the recipes are. Anyone can dump a few cans of things together. No 'recipe' needed.






Formerly Duped said...

I think that's a big mistake to have all the recipes for 9. Most people will have to halve them and that becomes too much of a hassle after awhile
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Exactly. I thought that was what TFW was working on back on the episode where she was seen at the round table 'tweaking' Nana Janet's Pot Roast recipe? Making them more 'regular' size family- friendly? What on earth took all these years to do then?

JoyinVirginia said...

I am fascinated with the Giudice fraud case. I found an article about it on, of all places, ACCOUNTING WEB! Yes, if you are an accountant, you pay attention to IRS cases.
” Three years ago (2010) the couple filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in a Newark court, listing $11 million in debt against an annual income of about $79,000 per year. Just a few days later, according to a New York Post report, they were spotted on a major shopping spree ... They might have gotten away with it, had they not been recognized. Note to self: if your face is plastered all over TV, don't expect privacy ever again.” The story goes on to say the bankruptcy trustee filed a complaint about the falsified tax returns and hiding income, and it was the trustee who said their bankruptcy petition should be denied.
These people thought they could outsmart the bankruptcy court. OK, who will play the Real Housewives in the Lifetime movie about this mess?

Layla said...

I took a look at the recipes TFW posted on the site above, and one thing really struck me--in the blurb about the turkey chili, she said the kids lost track of how many times she refilled her bowl. Good grief, it always has to be the kids, th kids, the kids. She couldn't say SHE lost track, it was THE KIDS lost track. Yeah, we get it, she has 8 kids. But does having 8 kids mean that she is incapable of any thought, feeling, or action of her own? I have a lot of kids, but I don't expect them to count how many servings of something I might eat. I can do that myself, or even better yet--nobody has to. That insistence on dropping reminders of her kids into everything is just so annoying!

Millicent said...

Tucker's Mom said... 21

Jeez, get a thick rubber band and write K8 on it with your Hello Kitty Magic Unicorn Marker and place it on your wrist.
Then, when you feel sorry for poor, poor Kate, give that band a big old stretch and SNAP IT really, really hard on your wrist so that you WAKE UP and smell the manipulation.
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ROFL!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I see one of the recipes is "School Morning Brown Sugar Oatmeal Cereal." How innovative. I'd never have thought of that.

Who are these HCI people?

dee3 said...

Hi everyone~
Hope some of you remember me...I used to be here quite a bit. I have had a tendency to disappear for periods but this time it was for some serious medical issues (which are ongoing)...but I didn't just wander off for no good reason, as I have always really enjoyed this blog and the comments here.

Since this entry is regarding freebies and entitlement, I wanted to comment on the Theresa/Joe Giudice (of RHNJ) 39-count fraud indictment....since it basically looks like they felt entitled to steal millions of dollars and then have it all totally written off via a bankruptcy.

I read the entire 33 page indictment yesterday...and looks like starting back in 2001 (that was when 9/11 happened for crying out loud...quite some time ago!).....they began to take out multiple mortgages and lines of credit from multiple lending institutions...using fraudulent W-2's, pay stubs and income claims. And this was not just one lending institution...but multiple ones...one after the other....to the tune of several million dollars.

Meanwhile, they were apparently not paying off these loans....as they were sued multiple times by those they stiffed......so.....apparently just spending it on themselves and not paying anyone back.

Then to boot, they filed no taxes for several years.....and then...when they got on the RHNJ show (and would clearly be able to pay back at least some of these ill-gotten gains)....decided to not only ditch the whole thing on the taxpayers in a bankruptcy filing....but lied like crazy about their assets, etc. in the filing.

AND....on the show, Theresa was seen flaunting wads of cash to pay for things. So basically, got millions via fraud and then planned to get out of debt for all of it via a bankruptcy filing....so they could just stiff everyone and spend all their new income to continue their expensive lifestyle.

OK, I know I'm naive and clueless. Grew up in a different generation. Had a friend who found 2 unopened jury notices from 4 years ago that her husband had never opened. I'd always assumed that if you disregarded a jury notice, the police would be at your door. Apparently not.

But what I'd love to know is....at what point did all this illegal activity come to the attention of anyone? If they'd never gotten on the RH show or if they'd never filed for bankruptcy....would they have just gotten away with it? Does this sort of thing happen all the time and people get away with it?

I guess I'm naive but I always assumed that if God forbid I even told one little lie on a mortgage or loan application....I'd land in big trouble.

I have one other thing to comment on but I'll save it for the next comment.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

My bet, and this is without seeing a recipe, is that if you compare a TFW recipe with the one she 'borrowed' from somewhere, they will be the same. And those other recipes serve 6-8, usually. Since she underserves the kids, and doesn't eat what she cooks, a regular recipe is already Gosselin sized for 9. I seriously doubt she did much altering at all, doesn't have the skill and is too lazy.

When I had three active and growing like weeds kids at home, plus a DH with a good appetite, I often would make 1 and 1/2 of a recipe. We are not birdlike eaters.

JoyinVirginia said...

I am making a list of fantasy guests in planning virtual party. I want to add Hugh Jackman to stop by and sing show tunes, and we just have to have Saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom come over and dance with everyone!
Drat! Why couldn't I have thought of Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson first? I am so jellus!

Millicent said...

Kate is a twit said... 92

In other news, it looks like Nigella Lawson is very close to being divorced from Charles Saatchi. Remember when Saatchi stated publicly that HE was the one who filed for divorce? Well, according to this article it was Nigella who filed. Good for her.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/world/europe/nigella-lawson-saatchi-divorce
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I think this is the best thing for both of them. Perhaps that very public incident in the restaurant was the straw that broke the camel's back - or perhaps the wake up call to Nigella that her husband's behavior was completely unacceptable. Seeing and hearing the public reaction might have been the impetus she needed to see how wrong it all was.

I only hope she gets some counseling, figures out how she ended up in an abusive relationship, and then moves forward to find contentment and happiness either on her own or with someone who will treat her with respect.

Kate is a twit said...

One of the Ask Kate questions was about the little refrigerator.

Q: On the renovations episodes, you weren’t sure about the little drink fridge. My question is are you glad you put it in? And do you use it often?

Part of Kate's answer was "I am still extremely thankful for that fridge EVERY DAY! I remember being unsure of a purpose for it but, turns out, it fits eight lunch boxes perfectly inside."

She should be thanking Jon for suggesting that little refrigerator. I still remember on the episode when he suggested it, her initial reaction was "No, Jon", gave a heavy sigh, and then said "what planet do you live on".

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 106
If they expect people with smaller families to just halve the recipes, they should include a pocket calculator with the book.

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Ha ha, so true!

I'll step out on a limb here and say almost no one will bother to recalculate the recipes. And then what? Write the new measurements in the margins?

I think keeping it at 9 is Kate's way of bragging about her large family and what big portions she cooks. And it's the lazy way out for Kate, too. Why did HCI allow it? It's going to backfire big time--as if the cookbook wasn't already a bust!

Anonymous said...

But, but, but guys...WAIT. We all know the miniscule portions she allows those children. She proudly posts pics of the small plates of food. Her recipes for 9 are normal size for a family of 4. Most likely.

TLC stinks said...

I'm not sure what went down between Beth Carson and Kate, but I believe she willingly gave up publicizing the book because TLC and/or the publisher wanted Jon and Kate as the promoters on the book tours. Beth probably got a nice bonus for stepping aside and letting Kate take the glory. Maybe Beth wised up how she was used or maybe Beth expected that in return she would get more air time on the show and get paid. Others speculate Beth figured out there was something going on between Kate and Steve.

Whatever happened to that friendship, I am also tired of Kate being cited as a NY Times Bestselling author. I bet it burns Beth up every time she reads that.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

JoyinVirginia said... 120

I am making a list of fantasy guests in planning virtual party. I want to add Hugh Jackman to stop by and sing show tunes, and we just have to have Saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom come over and dance with everyone!
Drat! Why couldn't I have thought of Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson first? I am so jellus!

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Don't worry, Joy. I share ;o)

Kate is a twit said...

Who are these HCI people?
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Tweet-HCI is the company that is publishing TFW's cook book.

All those click on TFW's website to look for Ask Kate and not one book was ordered on Amazon. Last ordered placed was on Monday.

dee3 said...

JoyinVirginia said... 114
I am fascinated with the Giudice fraud case.
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Boy, I am too. And I forgot to mention in my other comment....they too have rabid fans all over the internet making all sorts of excuses for them....defending them to the bitter end and blaming everyone else. It's just unbelievable. Blaming the government, the banks, the brother and his wife, etc.

If you read the indictment....they didn't even bother to keep their fraudulent stories straight with the different lending institutions. The various loan applications had different dates for the fake jobs they claimed Theresa had. What level of stupid and arrogant do you have to be to not even bother to keep your fraudulent claims consistent?

I think my interest in this story is for the same reason I've always been interested in the Gosselin story....my need to feel that life is fair. I know that in many instances, it's not fair....but I still NEED to see instances where it is. I need to see people who don't play by the same rules all the rest of us have to......end up paying some sort of price for that.

One thing that really bothers me is that I wonder if a lot of people who are a lot more clever than the Giudices are/were get away with this fraud.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I want to add Hugh Jackman to stop by and sing show tunes,

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He's mine! He could sing to me all night!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Hi everyone~
Hope some of you remember me...I used to be here quite a bit. I have had a tendency to disappear for periods but this time it was for some serious medical issues (which are ongoing)...but I didn't just wander off for no good reason, as I have always really enjoyed this blog and the comments here.

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Are you Debbie H, or am I confusing you with someone else? :)

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi Dee3! The indictment is amazing in the gall of these people, thinking thru would get away with it!
Hi Flight of Kiwi! I have missed hearing about the adventures of the 1980s faux suede La-Z-Boy recliner! Is it still traveling around thru time and space? Kinda like a TARDIS I picture!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Especially for TFW fans. They can't figure out what to pack in their kids' lunches without help.

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Sometimes I wonder if those sheeple are really fans, or non-fans in disguise, making the fans look really stupid with their questions, especially the cookie freezing. I mean, could anyone be that dumb? It's not like they're expected to write a thesis on the Fall of the Roman Empire -- it's just baking and freezing cookies, and packing a kid's lunch. Most of it is common sense. Are they really that clueless?

Silimom said...

Virginia Pen Mom - the other issue I'm seeing at least with the hummus recipe is that some of her ingredients are not easily divisible by 2 or even 3. It would have been much better for her to have tweaked her recipes for a family of, say, 4.

It will be interesting to see how the cookbook is laid out.

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said...

I bet "Nikki" is not a new fan, just someone posting under a new name.

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I think she's been around for awhile. I seem to remember a squabble a long time ago. She started out as a fan, then something happened (don't know what) she started bashing Kate, and then did a complete turn-around. Neither the fans nor the non-fans wanted her on their side and she was kind of shunned.

However, look out Milo, there may be a jockeying for position as Kate's best friend forever fan, and head spokesperson of the flock. She's answering questions for Kate, selling the cookbook, ad nauseam. I just hope that Kate comments on the picture of her daughter carrying around the Little Faces book. She's tried so hard to get her to notice. I have no idea why Kate would care.

Nikki ‏@Nikki_C_Wilson 17m
@TranVivianC @Kateplusmy8: I'm sure she will :) she makes a great effort to get to everyone at some point. May take a couple days.

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said...

lauriane labrie ‏@laurianelabrie 8m
@Kateplusmy8 @r3boz and youve got 6 babies just like that !! :)

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Kate gave birth again? Well, I'll be darned. Right under our noses? When did this happen? Where are the wisemen...My GPS wasn't working and I missed the Star leading to the manger.

Call Me Crazy said...

dee3 - Of course you are remembered. I'm sorry to hear you are having medical problems. I hope your health improves soon.

Hey Flight - Nice to hear from you. I have missed your updates about Rocket Man and his faux suede recliner.

White Organza - I see your Ryan Gosling, and raise you a Colin Firth. (I was going to claim Hugh Jackman, but our greedy, greedy girlfriend Joy grabbed him up before I had the chance!) :)

TLC stinks ... 125 - Robert wrote about the Beth situation in his book. If I remember correctly, there was supposed to be a 50/50 split of the profits between Kate and Beth. Kate then insisted that Jon get a piece of the pie, so it turned into a 33/33/33 split. If that wasn't a big enough slap in the face to Beth, Kate then decided that she alone would be doing the book tour, taking all the credit for Beth's hard work. And that was the end of the friendship.

handinhand said...

Are these instructions clear enough for a cookbook?

Add all of the vegetables to the pan and sauté, turning occasionally until the vegetables are steamed but still firm in texture.

She then says to add sesame seeds and garlic and cook for 3-5 more minutes.
Are those vegetables supposed to be sauteed or steamed? An approximate time for this step would be helpful. Wouldn't 3-5 additional minutes for the garlic and sesame seeds take them past the 'steamed but firm' texture? What consistency should the end result of the veggies be? I'm sure many have made a version of stir fry and can figure it out but for a cookbook shouldn't this be clearer? It just looks like her typical half fannied way of doing things...slap it together with the least effort possible.
And just when I was about to give her props for using no exclamation points I see her second recipe included two. Oy!
Thanks for the link Kiat@81

Formerly Duped said...

Maybe Beth also realized she'd been duped (good word!) by the Gosselins and didn't want to be associated with the book.Perhaps she felt her reputation was worth more than royalties. She didn't need the money. It was still a bum deal for her.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Twit, but who are they that they have published such a nothing book with recipes for oatmeal and edible play dough? Obviously no one else would touch it because Kate tweeted quite a while back she was looking for a publisher. I'd love to know their thoughts now that it's been on pre-order for over 5 months with such dismal results.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think my interest in this story is for the same reason I've always been interested in the Gosselin story....my need to feel that life is fair. I know that in many instances, it's not fair....but I still NEED to see instances where it is. I need to see people who don't play by the same rules all the rest of us have to......end up paying some sort of price for that.

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Great to see you Dee. Actually, you're a little blurry, I just had my eyes dilated lol. But if I squint I can make you out! I have the same hyper focus on fairness and justice, playing by the "rules" even if the rules don't always work out the way you wished, and have always been fascinated by scammers and schemers and how easy it sometimes seems to be. I like when karma comes around and these people get caught. It gives me hope someone else doing it might think twice now.

I am as baffled as everyone else how they just brazenly lied about all this money like they had no fear or ever getting caught. I don't care how much money you are stealing, it wouldn't be worth the anxiety over it. I'd freak out if my taxes were even a couple dollars off and worry I'm going to jail, don't these people have any kind of respect and healthy fear of the IRS? And of things like jail? It's not like celebrities have never been sent to jail. Fascinating really.

White Organza said...

Kiwi!!! Back just in time for the party!!!

Dee 3, of course we remember you. At some time you were a "veranda" regular, and I always appreciated your insights. I hope you will be able to stay with us for a while.

Call me Crazy: Yeah... Colin Firth... (Short episode of day dreaming...) I, too, do have a thing for Black Irish men..,

Hoosier Girl said...

I'm not a big Twitter follower, so could be totally wrong.

Was Nikki the uber-fan who within a couple weeks of tweeting Kate and her fans, wanted to fly all the fans to California with her while she went on a business trip?

I was shocked when that fell through. Bwahaha.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't see this crookbook working out. The sample recipes are simple and juvenile. Anyone who has spent any time in the kitchen knows you can make anything taste like Asian food if you add sesame oil and soy sauce to it (and even better, ginger, cilantro and some cayenne pepper or other heat). This is not the revelation Kate acts like it is. I can't see this flying off the shelves.

Also suspicious is how proud she is of coming up with this particular recipe all by herself. Like someone else said, wait, this is HER cookbook. Shouldn't that be a given?

NJGal51 said...

I watched AGT last night (Howard Stern fan) and I'd like to see the B DOUBLE"O" T Y guys perform at Joy's party. They at least woke me up and had me dancing in the chair.

Also, if any sheeple try to crash don't forget that my date will be Jack Bauer!

Hoosier Girl said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6h
@Kateplusmy8 Guess this is why we get along....I am so N agreement w/ur parenting style...decisions on helping kids 2mature, etc!
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Says the woman who still has a plastic dump truck in her yard and didn't let her son get his driver's license until age 18. I'm not sure either of those things constitute 'helping kids 2mature'.

NJGal51 said...

Anyone who has spent any time in the kitchen knows you can make anything taste like Asian food if you add sesame oil and soy sauce to it
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Yes, but if you watch the cooking competitions the judges don't like you to use too much sesame oil because then everything tastes like sesame oil (which is very true because it is a strongly flavored oil).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'e never heard that or had a problem with overbearing sesame oil but of course Kate doesn't explain a nuance like that.

If you watch Next Food Network Star one of their big criticisms of one of the contestants is she lacks authority. I forgot her name, it's the veggie gal. She can cook decent enough but she does seem to sort of just wing it much of the time and lacks the ability to explain anything but the most basic of concepts.

This is how I see Kate. She can cook I guess, arguably, but she doesn't know what she is doing or what she is talking about. Just falling into an edible meal by accident does not make you a cook.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

.I am so N agreement w/ur parenting style

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If that's the case I don't see that there is any meeting in the middle with these people.

It goes back to that fundamental difference in values, including how one should treat our precious children. If one person sees something as black when it is really white, I don't see how you explain to that person it's actually white. All they're going to say is well I can see it myself and it's black. Sigh.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Hoosier Girl said... 139
I'm not a big Twitter follower, so could be totally wrong.

Was Nikki the uber-fan who within a couple weeks of tweeting Kate and her fans, wanted to fly all the fans to California with her while she went on a business trip?

I was shocked when that fell through. Bwahaha.
July 31, 2013 at 2:37 PM
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Different Nikki. The one you remember is spelled Nickie. That was so weird. She's apparently ill now, although it's difficult to take these people seriously when they start out with wild tweets like that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I have no idea how this HCI thing works but I wonder if maybe there is just no risk to them?

I understand they have said they are her publisher and this is not self published, but that doesn't mean they didn't make Kate pay all the upfront costs and she bears the full risk. Maybe they only pay her back for all those expenses if the book actually churns a certain profit. They don't seem to act panicked or doing anything desperate that I can tell. I don't think it's any skin off their back if (when) this flops.

PA Dutch Mom said...

This is how I see Kate. She can cook I guess, arguably, but she doesn't know what she is doing or what she is talking about. Just falling into an edible meal by accident does not make you a cook.

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I think this has a lot to do with the way she was raised. This is kind of the way we cook here...dumping, not measuring, not being precise -- you just kind of do it like you think it should be done. I'm betting that she learned this from her mother and grandmother. I can make one heck of a pot roast or chicken pot pie (not a chicken pie, but pot pie), or scrapple or liver and onions, but I could never write out recipe with instructions for someone else to follow.

Somewhere along the line, she got the idea that she can cook and thinks she can put it into a precise recipe with detailed instructions. She may know what she's doing in the kitchen, but when she sits down and tries to figure it out for someone else to replicate, it just doesn't fly, and that's not going to sell books.

It looks like Nikki has taken a youngster under her wings, telling her what to expect when Kate tweets, to be patient when asking questions, and so forth. This is the newest teenie bopper fan, whose role model and the love of her life is Khloe Kardashian. She even posted her phone number on Twitter and asked Kardashian-Odom to call her. Where are the parents?

Sheri said...

Aunt Connie said...(48)

"Regarding the generosity to strangers and not being offended: A young friend of mine is an excellent, kind, patient young mother with four little, close-in-age boys. (Young twin babies, and a 3 and a 5 year old.) She has the patience of a saint, and loves those lucky little boys beyond measure.

They are not poor or needy, bless their hearts.

She had to take them all inside the grocery store for a quick trip to get some urgent items. As they were standing in line to pay, some kind gentleman was behind them.

He was so impressed with her gentle mothering, that he took a $50.00 dollar bill out of his wallet, and handed it to her. He told her he was so impressed by her sweetness to her little boys that he just HAD to reward her in some way.

The only way he could think of was to reward her with money! She was surprised, delighted, not at all insulted, and so thankful that she had been a good example to someone.

She took the money, thanked him profusely, and walked on air the rest of the day."

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What a great story, thanks for sharing. Acts of kindness that can make a person feel great aren't always about money either.

I remember when my kids were small (9 and 2), we were at a restaurant. I was always very mindful about how my children behaved in a public place, especially where people were trying (and paying) to enjoy a meal.

I never thought anything of it, just common courtesy stuff. No, you don't bang your utensils, you don't shout and you engage in quiet interaction with your companions while waiting to be served.

At the end of our meal though an older woman came over to me and thanked me. I was stunned. She said that she'd never seen such well behaved children in a restaurant and that she was delighted too see that there are still parents out there teaching their children to behave respectfully.

I felt a bit awkward (not at all offended) but nevertheless thanked her in return for her kind words.

The truth is that her words really meant the world to me because I was a young parent and was never really very sure of myself and I felt just a bit taller that day.

That was 16 years ago and I never forgot it and I never will.

I think simple kindness reaches so much farther than most people realize.

Hoosier Girl said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 148

Different Nikki. The one you remember is spelled Nickie. That was so weird. She's apparently ill now, although it's difficult to take these people seriously when they start out with wild tweets like that.
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Thx Tweet. I need a spread sheet to keep up. I'm a spread sheet kinda gal.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

PA Dutch I don't think that's just a PA thing! I think lots of cooks cook that way. You've done it so long "dumping" is more precise than it necessarily looks. Us Italians do it all the time. You find whatever is growing fresh in the garden and "dump" it into the pasta. No one measures water or salt for the pasta or garlic or tomatoes for the sauce, you just sort of know and dump.

However, as you said, that's not going to work when writing a cookbook. People know how to dump. You would buy a cookbook if you're looking for guidance in other things. Although maybe I am underestimating TFW's fans. Maybe this is what they want. The sales don't reflect that though!

Hoosier Girl said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6h
@deannatweeting U are just too too quiet lately!! What are U up to girl? Busy busy working? Miss ur delightful chatter! :)
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LOL. This reminded me of Milo's neighbors who moved in the middle of the night.

Someone should tell Milo that fences make good neighbors and stalkers do not make good friends.

JoyinVirginia said...

Blowing in the wind and Call me crazy, Hugh Jackman has been invited to sing to everyone at our virtual soiree. So you will get to grab him for a virtual duet if you want!

Summer Days And Nights said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6h
@deannatweeting U are just too too quiet lately!! What are U up to girl? Busy busy working? Miss ur delightful chatter! :)
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LOL. This reminded me of Milo's neighbors who moved in the middle of the night.

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She can't help it. It's an addiction. She just keeps doing it, even though she's been but the butt of jokes on Twitter. I don't think she knows that's she doing it. I can't imagine what it must be like to be one of her kids who just came home from a date. She probably writes out all of the questions ahead of time, and then just fires away, not giving them the chance to answer.

PA Dutch Mom said...

No one measures water or salt for the pasta or garlic or tomatoes for the sauce, you just sort of know and dump.

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Great name for a cookbook..."Know And Dump!" I bet sales would be better than Kate's!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Now I'm confused about the Nickies, Nikkis. Who was the one with the Kate haircut and tats...the one who was a switch-hitter on Twitter, and did an about-face...first loved Kate, the hated Kate, and is now back to loving her again? Was that the same Nikki now who is planning a take-over for the spot of head sheep?

Was Nickie the one who was always a fan and offered to fly everyone to California at her expense?

So many sheep in the flock and they all seem to look and act alike!

Then there's Milo. Nobody can forget her.

foxy said...

We all have to remember Kate's portions are very small. One slice of turkey bacon, 1 T of scrambled egg and some got a tiny muffin. (Only on a holiday.) Also the BBQ she has 1 chicken wing each and salad or beans on the side. Even when she makes pizza. Two pizzas for nine people, and they are medium size. That really doesn't cut it, so maybe the cookbook does not need altering the amounts. Even her turkey chili calls for 2 pounds of ground turkey for 9 people. That is less than 4 ounces each, but I guess you get the protein from the case of beans added.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Jennifer Lynne Bentz ‏@BentzBe 50m

@Kateplusmy8. You are such and inspiration watched your show from begging to end!! :( Sad that it ended.. Such a fan of you and you 8 kids:D

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Hysterical! You just gotta love 'em!

PJ's momma said...

(Raising my hand timidly): Does anyone like Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs? He is so darn cute, I just love his wicked wit, even when drowning in poo or getting electrocuted. Looks come and go, but someone who can make you laugh is really a gift! Fortunately, I have both with my husband, but I really do enjoy some Mike Rowe!

White Organza said...

handinhand (137)
Well, there you go... The incredible mind of TFW at work: "Sauté your vegetables to steam them."
For years, she's been trying to drive her own kids crazy ruling every aspects of their lives with infinite minutia ("You cannot enter the kitchen before 6:03. Not 6:02. 6:03...") but when it comes to her, especially if she has to work at something, -like testing and retesting your recipes, fact checking, proof reading, etc.-, "poetical vagueness" is good enough.

localyocul said...

Does anyone have a good link to the Guidice indictment? The one posted here didn't work for me and I really want to read it.

Blowing In The Wind said...

So you will get to grab him for a virtual duet if you want!

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That's not exactly what I had in mind. I'd rather grab him for something else.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Now I'm confused about the Nickies, Nikkis. Who was the one with the Kate haircut and tats...the one who was a switch-hitter on Twitter, and did an about-face...first loved Kate, the hated Kate, and is now back to loving her again? Was that the same Nikki now who is planning a take-over for the spot of head sheep?

Yes

Was Nickie the one who was always a fan and offered to fly everyone to California at her expense?

Yes

Jen said...

"Add all of the vegetables to the pan and sauté, turning occasionally until the vegetables are steamed but still firm in texture.

She then says to add sesame seeds and garlic and cook for 3-5 more minutes.
Are those vegetables supposed to be sauteed or steamed? An approximate time for this step would be helpful. Wouldn't 3-5 additional minutes for the garlic and sesame seeds take them past the 'steamed but firm' texture? What consistency should the end result of the veggies be?"

That recipe is ridiculous and makes it clear she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about. Steaming involves water. How can the veggies be steamed if she just tosses them into the pan and stirs them around? Also, you'd typically add them one at a time (or a few at a time) because different veggies cook at different rates (the carrots she mentions would take longer, for example).

I have also never heard of adding in garlic last. In "Asian" cooking, you'd usually add it in first to flavor the rest of the food. Based on the pictures she's posted (including of that sesame vermicilli dish) and these amateurish recipes, I wouldn't eat anything she cooked or wrote about.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Milo is on a platitude kick. I guess after sticking her foot in her mouth over the "cookie help" she's afraid to tweet anything else.

Nah...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Heres an old comment from Tamara that fits with this thread.


Tamara has left a new comment on your post "Parents who force sick and fragile kids to work on...":

I've never bothered criticizing the Duggars much on Gosselin blogs because they are Gosselin blogs, too many people seem to think that "politeness" equals good children and good parenting, and that because the Duggars had no debt before the show started they can't be greedy or grifters. All wrong assumptions in my book, but any of my books on what is wrong with the Duggar family AND their reality show would be just that, book length!

And most of the reviews for my book would be platitudes and excuses about polite kids and lack of debt. ::shrug::

fidosmommy said...

The best pie bakers I have ever known were Alice and Jennie. Perfect crusts every time.
But they had no recipe. They went by "feel". If you didn't know the "feel" of the dough when it had the perfect balance of butter, flour and water, you would have an inferior crust. They couldn't help you by telling you measurements.
They could make crusts blindfolded.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes! Carrots can take twice as long depending on how thick they're cut. Maybe she doesn't want to burn the garlic? Except there is no explanation or rhyme or reason to the order of things. The garlic won't burn if you keep stirring and the flavor will be better since it's had more time in there. There are no tips (cut carrots in half for faster cooking or put in first?) It's literally, a little bit of this a little of that and stir. I'm all about simple flavors but this is too simple, it begs for some kind of ginger, spice or herb or all of that to brighten it up.

It's really a hot mess. Worse than I thought. It's like a good first effort at Asian cooking from a teen.

A Mom said...

Wonder what happened to Part 2 of "ask Kate". What excuse will Kate use this time. Surely I'm so busy as a mother of 8 won't be used again. With a part-time babysitter and Jon getting the kids for dinner during the week Kate can find 20 minutes to answer the same question. She should the answers memorized by now.

DanielleB said...

PJ's momma said... 162
Raising my hand too!! Have always had a crush on Mike Rowe! But I want to invite Usher as my plus 1!

Sheri said... 152
OMG Sheri-I had the same thing happen to me, probably 15 or 16 years ago. My kids were about 4 and 7, and we were in a restaurant with my MIL.
There was an older lady across the aisle, facing me, and I kept seeing her watching us.
I told my MIL I didn't know why this lady kept looking at us, the kids weren't being disruptive at all. I jokingly said that I was going to go over and ask her if there was a problem. (I would have never really done that)
When she got up to leave, she stopped at our table and told me I should be proud of my kids, that she never saw such well behaved children in a restaurant. Boy did I feel like a jerk for thinking the worst of her, then she pays me such a nice compliment!

dee3 said...

for localyocul~

I hope this link works. If it doesn't work...the place I got it was on the blog "Reality Tea"....in the entry on the 3rd page from yesterday and in the title it says "full list of charges" and there's a link that will take you to the full indictment. Very fascinating reading.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2013/Guidice,%20Giuseppe%20and%20Teresa%20Indictment.pdf

ncgirl said...

I'm in the Hugh Jackman fan club. I love watching him sing at the Tonys from The Boy from Oz on youtube.

readerlady said...

Might I respectfully suggest we also include Taye Diggs on the guest list? The man is hawt! He also sings up a storm. If he insists, he could bring his wife, Idina Menzel along. Maybe she'd treat us to some music from "Wicked". And if Hugh Jackman is coming,, maybe we should include Neil Patrick Harris. He and Hugh Jackman were so good together when they appeared on the Tony Awards a few years ago.

Dee3 -- Good to hear from you again. You've been missed. Sorry to hear about the health problems. I hope you're on the mend now.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Cooking is kind of like teaching. You may be the best and brightest in your field but that doesn't mean you can teach. Just like you may or may not be a good cook but it doesn't mean you have the first clue how to explain what you're doing to readers.

Anonymous said...

looking at her turkey corn mess, she has the oil and onions in one pan and the turkey crap in another but never says to combine them both. She is very sloppy with her directions and this "cookbook" is a joke

Pam

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh Lord. Pam I didn't even get to that turkey hot mess.

Again it's unclear. She talks about a pot, then a pan, but I almost think she means the same pan.

If she meant two different things, no she never did say when or where to add the onions. I think Silimom should have to follow these recipes strictly. So the end result of this one should be a nice pan of caramelized onions and a pot of turkey and salsa. Maybe the onions are dip?

It also calls for four whole cans of various crap. With all that sodium there would be little need for much more salt. There's absolutely no kick to it. No spice even a tiny bit for taste. I've never seen an unspicy chili, it always has at least a little bit of cayenne pepper or hot peppers of some kind. What she has here is a stew or thick soup, not a chili.

Tucker's Mom said...

handinhand said... 137
Are these instructions clear enough for a cookbook?
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I was commenting on the two recipes that HCI has on their websites, and they are a hot mess!
I lost that post (long) but will try to pick it back up tomorrow morning.
As I thought, those recipes were as bad as TFW's meatloaf recipe.
So bad on so many levels.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think we understand now why no one wanted to take on the job of publishing this book. A certain amount of editing is necessary for all cookbooks but this is more than just editing, they would need total and utter revamping.

It's really basic corrections though at the end of the day. For instance, adding the simple word "separate" helps to clarify that you're going to now cook something separate from something else.

I.e. saute the onions in a pan with butter, etc. Then, in a SEPARATE pot combine everything else.

To just say pan, then pot, and then to never explain how the ingredients in the pot merge with the ingredients in the pan, is a disaster. You're left wondering if she really meant all in the same pot, or if she just forgot to tell you to combine. Either one is bad.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I think we understand now why no one wanted to take on the job of publishing this book. A certain amount of editing is necessary for all cookbooks but this is more than just editing, they would need total and utter revamping.

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Saute and then let steam? Wasn't this book proofed?

dee3 said...

To make a really long story short....they thought I had cancer (I didn't) and whilst doing a bunch of tests and scans, discovered I had a cerebral aneurysm. Then had an arteriogram and discovered I have 2 of them....so I'm having major brain surgery in late August. Mine don't qualify for the "coiling" procedure and I have to have clippings done...so it's the big deal brain surgery but I have an excellent surgeon (a family member pulled strings) at Johns Hopkins....so I should be fine.

But...the past several months have been a nightmare...not because of anything related to cancer or aneurysms....but because I'm claustrophobic and getting put into scanning machines and being made to lie flat for hours after arteriograms is sheer hell for me....and I learned that it's very difficult to try and explain the sheer lunacy of severe claustrophobia to health professionals who don't have it themselves.

Getting into your 60's can be like having an old car with lots of mileage and suddenly you're faced with whether or not to replace an expensive part. It turns out that I have a 25% chance that this could rupture during my remaining expected life span. And that means there's a 75% chance it wouldn't.....and if the gal had done ONE less slice during my neck scan, nobody would have ever known I even had this....but they DID find out...so what do you do? You can't really just ignore it once it's known....and everyone (doctors, family) think you should have it repaired....so I'm going to and have resigned myself to it.

And I'm not even really scared about the surgery. What I AM really scared and focused on is having to spend the night in ICU....and being somehow constrained there...because of my claustrophobia. I tried to explain this to the surgeon's assistant and she emailed me back that hopefully I'll be lucky and have a window with a nice view of the inner harbor. I laughed so loud my dog came running to investigate. It has nothing to do with having a window or lack of a window....but she didn't understand that.

Anyway, I'm supposed to be able to come back home after 3-4 days so by the end of the first week of September I can let you know how it went and reassure anyone who ever has to go through it. But I'll tell ya, I'm gonna think twice about ever letting any tests be done on me unless they give me a darn good reason....because my motto is "at my age, if it's not bothering me, leave it alone".

Tucker's Mom said...

This is how I see Kate. She can cook I guess, arguably, but she doesn't know what she is doing or what she is talking about. Just falling into an edible meal by accident does not make you a cook.
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Very good summation of Kate's cooking skills.
Some observations abou the two recipes on HCI Books.
1/2 cup of regular sodium is over 7000 mg. sodium. Forget the pesticides and hormones in non organic food, the salt alone will kill you!
Kate should have suggested reduced sodium soy or tamari for gluten intolerance.
Cabbage? what kind? Green, red, savoy or napa????
Also, the amounts should be also given in volume measurements for guidance.
I can't bring myself to begin to tell you what's wrong with Kate's chili recipe, but for now, I'll just say; canned corn-yuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

capecodmama said...

I will be bringing Daniel Craig. Hopefully he'll show us some James Bond moves.

PJ's momma...I will share Mr. Craig if you share Mr. Rowe. Clean or dirty, Mr. Rowe is a hottie.

Tucker's Mom said...

Dee 3 and Kiwi, what a wonderful surprise to see you both here again!!
Please, come and sit a spell on the veranda...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Dee, wow, what a saga. Hang in there and please keep us updated. I think you're doing the right thing. 25% seems low on the gambling table but not so low when it's your life!

Kate is a twit said...

I was wrong--TFW actually did post the Turkey, Corn and White Bean Chili on her website, complete with pictures. She posted it on 10/24/11.

For those that want to look and compare:

http://www.kateplusmy8.com/menu-monday-recipe-turkey-corn-and-white-bean-chili/

These are her instructions from that recipe:

"Melt butter and oil in large pot over medium heat.
Cook onion stirring constantly until tender.
Add garlic and cook one more minute.
Add raw ground turkey and half cup of italian dressing and brown turkey throughout.
Once turkey is browned and cooked through,add broth, cilantro, basil, chili powder, salsa, beans and corn.
Bring to a boil, reduce heat to medium low for 15 minutes, stirring occasionally."

In that recipe she said she used Good Seasons Italian dressing, in the cook book one it morphed into Balsamic Vinaigrette. I guess that's how she "tweaked" the recipe.

TLC stinks said...

Thanks, Call Me Crazy. Robert's book was so difficult to get through I must have skipped over the part about Beth. Kate sure screwed her.

sweet tart said...

It looks like Nikki has taken a youngster under her wings, telling her what to expect when Kate tweets, to be patient when asking questions, and so forth. This is the newest teenie bopper fan, whose role model and the love of her life is Khloe Kardashian. She even posted her phone number on Twitter and asked Kardashian-Odom to call her. Where are the parents?


I thought discussing Kate's twitterer followers was against the rules. Could you elaborate one way or the other? 'cause I think it's wrong.

Sunset Blvd said...

Go to Pinterest and search Lunch Box Ideas for Kids. Tons of creative ideas. No need to by a cookbook to get them. Her "fans" are clueless.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Hi dee3, it's good to see you posting. I've always enjoyed your comments. Hang in there! I know where you're coming from both with the claustrophobia and your attitude about tests. It's sad that those in the medical profession can't even "get" what claustrophobia can be like.

I've been out watching my hummingbirds. They're so fun to watch. One came right up within inches of my face and stayed there quite a good long while. Not sure what he was trying to tell me. Maybe a thank you for the food.

Anyway where are Kate's fans tonight? Seems like her twitter has been completely hijacked. Even after she tweeted no one showed up.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Why is Milo tweeting the FBI?

NJGal51 said...

I read both recipes and I agree with everything that has been said about them. My question is why don't I see the word "organic" anywhere in either of them? Doesn't TFW claim to feed them all things organic?

dee3 said...

@ Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 184

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. :)

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I hate to sound like an old woman but when I was a kid, we looked up to people like Mickey Mantle...or...I don't know...Gandhi. Not grifters, schemers and liars like the Giudices...or Kate Gosselin. It's very alarming to me to see all the die-hard fans they have...especially the young ones...who see them as some sort of role-models.

Seriously, you have to read that 33 page indictment...your jaw will hit the floor. I can't even find the words.....how can someone think they are so invincible and untouchable to try and pull-off that much fraud...repeatedly...and not get caught?

I remember back when they filed for bankruptcy and Theresa was gushing about how they would get a "fresh start"....as if they were entitled to just dump millions in debt on everyone else....and back then, I had no idea about the fraudulently obtained loans and non-payment of taxes. I just thought they'd spent beyond their means through sheer greed....not fraud.

I remember when Theresa insinuated that it was somehow disgusting/gross to have to live in any house that wasn't brand new. How delusional and entitled.....and they started this fraud back in 2001....9/11 didn't even faze them...they were too busy taking out millions in fraudulent loans and lines of credit at the time....so they could spend everyone else's money with no intention of ever paying it back....and no consideration for all those who were losing jobs, losing their homes, etc.

Luckily I have health insurance but even with it I have to pay several grand out of pocket for all the co-pays and for going to an out-of-state hospital......and if not for a very small inheritance I got from my dad (who died in February), I could not have afforded this superb neurosurgeon and let me tell you....because I gave it a lot of thought....and if Johns Hopkins had not been "in network" and had I not inherited a few thousand....I'd have literally risked my life and had the surgery done here....because the thought of going into debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars would just be horrific to me. To have to file for bankruptcy would be horrific to me. It just wouldn't have been acceptable to me. And these idiots were just blowing millions (that wasn't theirs) on luxuries...and felt entitled to it. It's just sickening, really.

fidosmommy said...

Turkey chili recipe: the directions above work for me. I understood it perfectly. It's a one pot meal. I do hope the ingredients list says to get 97% lean ground turkey, otherwise there would be too much fat in the chili for my personal taste. I want my ground meat drained!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The web site directions are easier to follow. Your cookbook isn't supposed to mess up something that already worked lol.

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