Sunday, April 7, 2013

'The People vs. Larry Flynt': Was Falwell bullied and deserved damages for emotional distress, or was it just free speech about a public figure?

'Free speech,' said the Supreme Court in 1988.

What if you said a very famous celebrity likes to sleep with goats? What if you said that celebrity loves hard liquor and is always intoxicated in public? What if you said his first sexual experience was with his own mother?



In 1983, Larry Flynt said all that and more about Jerry Falwell in his magazine Hustler. Falwell sued him for 50 million dollars. What followed was one of the greatest victories for free speech, specifically parodies and criticism involving public figures, ever to come down from the Supreme Court. The decision was unanimous. Said the court, in part:
"Justice Frankfurter put it succinctly in Baumgartner v. United States, 322 U. S. 665, 673-674 (1944), when he said that "[o]ne of the prerogatives of American citizenship is the right to criticize public men and measures." Such criticism, inevitably, will not always be reasoned or moderate; public figures as well as public officials will be subject to "vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks," New York Times, supra, at 270. " . . .

. . .In the world of debate about public affairs, many things done with motives that are less than admirable are protected by the First Amendment. In Garrison v. Louisiana, 379 U. S. 64 (1964), we held that even when a speaker or writer is motivated by hatred or ill will his expression was protected by the First Amendment: Thus while such a bad motive may be deemed controlling for purposes of tort liability in other areas of the law, we think the First Amendment prohibits such a result in the area of public debate about public figures.
"Debate on public issues will not be uninhibited if the speaker must run the risk that it will be proved in court that he spoke out of hatred; even if he did speak out of hatred, utterances honestly believed contribute to the free interchange of ideas and the ascertainment of truth." Id., at 73."

Falwell and Flynt later became good friends, visiting each other frequently, going on speaking engagements together, and exchanging Christmas cards. In 1998, Flynt apologized for the ad. Falwell leaped to his feet and shook Flynt's hand.

This Oscar-nominated film from 1996 details Falwell's early life through the famous court case and his near assassination. It can be viewed for free and legally from Crackle.com on Youtube.

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OrangeCrusher1 said...

Fired Up 4 Kate Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 27m
@Kateplusmy8 #Hailey The tale of 2women mistreated, abused, lied to, cheated on & bullied by the same evil little man!

OMG - it simply does not get better than this. Coming soon to a theatre near you, let's call it The Tale of 2 Kates. Milo, you have outdone your completely crazy self.

PatK said...

Walentis has another entry up on his blog.

http://greaterreadingonline.com/al-walentis/2013/4/9/the-whole-gangs-back-together-again-as-hailey-glassman-climbs-aboard-the-gosselinbookgate-fray

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much TLC Stinks for answering my questions. Very interesting info. Here is another question based upon Verizon only keeping records of text contents for 3-5 days.

How can BV claim that he 100% verified the text messages were valid? How did he do this or claim to do this? This was BV exact wording: "This is your old cell phone number Jon, once again 100% verified. What you and Robert have done is despicable & criminal."
Leslie

Karma said...

Maybe B*Ville will out Milo, as retribution for being punked. #KarmaIsABitch

TLC stinks said...

Did a little reading online. Yes, text messages can most definitely be falsified. There's even an app to create fake iphone texts.

Unknown said...

TLC stinks said... 200
''I also read that there are apps to save your text messages to your SD card.''
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BUT, were those apps available years ago (weren't those supposed to be in 2009?) when Hailey supposedly made those texts?

Midnight Madness said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Dear @ChipotleTweets I, &my children are hopelessly in love w you. And...some may even say we're addicted! Special ❤2 my local 1! Love,Kate

Now what is she grifting? Gift cards?

TLC stinks said...

From Al Walentis who got to share notes with Robert when they briefly worked on their book together:

Hoffman had shared information for a book on Jon and Kate we were briefly working on together, and his notes from October 7, 2009 reveal the following:

[Former babysitter and supposed mistress] Stephanie Santoro said that Jon told her that he hacked Kate’s email account. This I believe because Jon had told me before that he got access to her emails and he was trying to find proof that she was having an affair with [bodyguard] Steve Neild. He told me he had emails and video surveillence tapes that prove she was having an affair and he was saving them to use if he needed to. In the event that she tried to take custody away from him or something like that. The only reason he’s holding them back now is because he doesn’t want people to know that he broke into her email account. Jon told me that he worked in the Governor’s office and his job was hacking into security systems all day so I know he has the skills to do it.
And on November 9, 2009:

Jon has said on several occasions that he has actual proof that Kate and [bodyguard] Steve [Neild] are having an affair and that he’ll use that information against Kate in court if he has to. He says he doesn’t want to embarrass her but if it comes down to it, he’ll show the world what he has. He told me he has emails and text messages between the two of them. I reported that back before Stephanie Santoro dropped the bomb that Jon hacked Kate’s computer and cell phone so she may have been telling the truth about that. Jon also says he has video of Kate abusing the kids. I asked if he had a nanny-cam or something like that but he wouldn’t elaborate. Again, he’s holding it for a time when he needs it to fight Kate.

TLC stinks said...

Walentis also said this:

UPDATED: OK, I'm not sure if Hoffman is trying to parse that sentence in Clintonese, but, having had access to Hoffman's notes during preparation of my own Jon/Kate volume, I can report that Hoffman, who said Jon did not trust him as far as he could throw him, did report that he had dinner (though not at a diner) with Jon the prior August 26:

We went to the Captain’s Cove around 5 pm. Jon drove the BMW with me in the front seat. It was strange walking in there with him because it was crowded and everyone was looking at him and whispering and smiling at him. It’s strange being on that side of it. We ate Lobster and drank Coronas and just talked like guys. He was completely low key and didn’t seem even a little interested in the attention. He goes here because they protect him here. If anyone takes his picture the staff will take the card out of the camera or take the camera. The staff knows him well and they do a good job of keeping the cameras away. People are watching him the entire time we’re there and once we were finished with dinner and went to the bar area, people came up to him for autographs etc. He wouldn’t allow pictures because then everyone will start taking them. He signed autographs and shook hands begrudgingly. Around 10:30 pm Jon said that we had to go because Kate still wasn’t home and the babysitter’s shifts were over and he needed to be home with the kids. Jon picked up the tab.

Unknown said...

I absolutely refuse to give that nasty AW a single click on his blog. He simply can not stand that Robert and his book is tabloid news again, while once again, he is left saying that HE wrote a book too! Booo Hooo, AW...cry me a river!!

Unknown said...

One more thing that I've not said, and I want to say now. KEEP QUIET JON. So far, so good. Please continue to be what at this point seems to be the only sane/normal person in this mess!!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Maybe Steve cut Kate loses cause he knew what Robert has on them.

And I still think that Steve played Kate like a fiddle.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Midnight Madness said... 8
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Dear @ChipotleTweets I, &my children are hopelessly in love w you. And...some may even say we're addicted! Special ❤2 my local 1! Love,Kate

Now what is she grifting? Gift cards?
++++++++++

Yupe she grifting again.

gotyournumberKate said...

Just from following Kate and her antics for the past several years I have no doubt her children, especially the twins know exactly what's going on. When a parent tries to alienate their children form the other parent they won't stop at bashing them to the children. I have a feeling Kate involves C&M in way too many grown up talks and puts a lot of stress on them. I'm sure she puts them smack dab in the middle. What better way to turn the children against their father than to go directly through them?

Unknown said...

Anonymous said... 4
''How can BV claim that he 100% verified the text messages were valid? How did he do this or claim to do this? This was BV exact wording: "This is your old cell phone number Jon, once again 100% verified. What you and Robert have done is despicable & criminal.''
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Well.....the way I read that is that all Bv is that he has 100% verified that the old cell phone number is Jon's.

Maybe he was attempting to say that the texts were ALSO verified, but that is not what I read. I'm such a literal person...I could be wrong.


shiitakemushroom hitting the fan said...

Hailey Glassman ‏@hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 4h
In life it's very hard to choose between two evils...The Evil Queen from Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs, or The Joker from Batman...#TossUp

Paula said...

Agree Remona - Jon just needs to continue staying out of the public eye. I'm sure Kate would love nothing more than to pull Jon into this mess. Also, re: Al..hasn't he involved himself in this bullyville mess? Or am I wrong?

She is evil said...

Wait! I thought Kate was crusading against bullies on her twitter account. Snark. She is so transparent

Anonymous said...

Hailey's twitter account is suspended. How on earth does Bullyville get away with violating nearly every single twitter rule with NO suspensions, but Hailey Glassman is somehow suspended. Makes no sense.

Talked, then Stalked

TLC stinks said...

Al said these are Robert's notes, so if not, I guess we'll hear from Robert. I agree Al is resentful towards Robert, but it sure makes sense that Jon gathered evidence. I have waffled about her and Steve, but I bet there are emails that exist that prove they were having an affair. I think the affair empowered her even more over Jon.

Robert may have forgotten about that meal in August. I can't remember where I ate 2 days ago.

sue said...

Hailey's account is not suspended

https://twitter.com/hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1

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A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

chefsummer said... 199
LaurenBGlassman ‏@LaurenBGlassman 20h
When people show you who they are . . . Believe them.

Hailey Glassman ‏@hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 21h
I am thankful for all those difficult people in my life, they have shown me exactly who I do not want to be.
++++++++==

I think they're referring to KK.

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I think so too.

Haley has taken a long and winding road. But I believe that she will be fine. I hope she continues to keep away from any Gosselin.

She's fortunate to have good, supportive parents.

TLC stinks said...

Maybe Mr. Bullyville Man will bully the sheeple who are bulling Hailey who got bullied by Kate who was bullied by the haters who are bulled by the sheeple?

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Unknown said...

TLC stinks said... 9
''From Al Walentis who got to share notes with Robert when they briefly worked on their book together:
''He told me he had emails and video surveillence tapes that prove she was having an affair and he was saving them to use if he needed to. In the event that she tried to take custody away from him or something like that.''
''And on November 9, 2009:
''blah blah blah blah...Jon also says he has video of Kate abusing the kids. I asked if he had a nanny-cam or something like that but he wouldn’t elaborate. Again, he’s holding it for a time when he needs it to fight Kate.''
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HOLD THE PHONE! AW is saying that Jon has video of KK's affair, and of KK abusing the kids in 2009, and didn't use it when TLC/KK were stomping him into a greasy spot?

Everyone that believes Jon had all this so called proof on tapes and did NOTHING is.....trying to find words here.....I can't even come up with the words that would articulate what I'm thinking!!!

Let's throw tomatoes said...

I agree with those that think that the E-mails are fake. Hailey knows if they ever see the light of day in the courthouse they will be studied to see if they are real! That's probably why her mom is scared.

I always knew that Kate and Steve were a couple ! Gina hasn't been seen since 2009. It was so obvious ! I know I'm going to be jumped on but I still think they are together ! Kate has him undercover( oops did I go there ) because she wants that dating show soooooo badly!!

One more thing about Haily, why is she telling Kate she is going to sue her, just do it!

Done and done said...

I am thoroughly confused. Al is claiming that Jon told Stephanie that he has proof of the affair and of the abuse, specifically video evidence of both. If this were true, why didn't he use the abuse video to get full custody? Why didn't he just leak any of that when he was being raked under he coals? He didn't show much restraint in those days, so why not use what he had to his advantage?

I don't believe Al.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

BV will soon realise just how disposable people are to Kate, once she is done using them.

Lesson learned.

not a fan of Jon's said...

no one should be made physically sick over the latest unraveling of an internet stranger. If you are, then perhaps you need to step back into your own real life, get some fresh air and regain perspective.


I think I said as much when giggling over one of the haterz 'missing' and another calling thier local police station for a 'welfare check'. Get a grip people.

pym said...

Wow. Hailey, now Al. Anybody else out there want to stir this pot? There are still lots of bit players not yet heard from.

lukebandit said...

And now through the looking glass, is the days of:

Kateton Gossby

Another saga, another drama filled day of texting, emails, platitudes, accusations and mystery!

Will kate finally give up her pursuit of trying to put Jon in the Gulag?

Will Robert release the book in a few days?

Will BV turn on kate in a New York Minute after all is said and done?

Will Robert and Jon be vindicated for all to see?

Will kate go to a lawyer in PA in her backyard and does that make her now, since she can't afford Laverne and Shirley in sunny California, mediocre?

Be sure to place your orders for popcorn, pizza, meatball subs and Joy, please bring celery, grape tomatoes and onion for the DIP!


GO ROBERT GO TEAM ROBERT JON GOSSELIN8


Unknown said...

Done and done said... 29
''I am thoroughly confused. Al is claiming that Jon told Stephanie that he has proof of the affair and of the abuse, specifically video evidence of both. If this were true, why didn't he use the abuse video to get full custody?.....I don't believe Al.''
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Exactly! AW's comments make no sense at all. None. Period.

That is what I said (more than once...sorry about that)

Over And Out said...

I think I said as much when giggling over one of the haterz 'missing' and another calling thier local police station for a 'welfare check'. Get a grip people.

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And I think that a few people said that harassing a person to the point of that person wishing he/she were dead was no laughing matter, and that checking on someone to make sure that person was okay is what any normal, compassionate person would do -- stranger or not.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Dear @ChipotleTweets I, &my children are hopelessly in love w you. And...some may even say we're addicted! Special ❤2 my local 1! Love,Kate

My daughter and her kids think the same about Chipotle, BUT never in a million years would she do anything so embarrassing. The grifting is just incredible, especially with what she is currently embroiled with on Twitter. "Love, Kate"? Oh give us all a break.

sue said...

"Anonymous said... 20

Hailey's twitter account is suspended. How on earth does Bullyville get away with violating nearly every single twitter rule with NO suspensions, but Hailey Glassman is somehow suspended. Makes no sense.

Talked, then Stalked "


Again this is not true. Her account is active and she has only tweeted once today. Anon is just trying to stir the pot.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...


[excerpts from Radaronline]

"“But once I dropped out Kate bullied my mom on the phone with her manipulation tactics. I called Kate to explain why we weren’t doing it and she cut me off...’

“Kate got really aggressive with me — and especially with my parents — trying to convince us to participate, but it just wasn’t going to happen.”

Hailey told Radar, “Kate’s perception of reality is off, fueled by her narcissism and she is by far the biggest bully I have ever encountered. It boggles my mind that she is going after anyone on Twitter who has tweeted her negatively."

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I believe Haley & her mom, have encountered the REAL Kate.

Spoiled rotten, mean, entitled, and a bully.

My God. How unfortunate.

Sherry Baby said...

"Maybe Mr. Bullyville Man will bully the sheeple who are bulling Hailey who got bullied by Kate who was bullied by the haters who are bulled by the sheeple?"

______________________
You got that right...it about sums it up. This whole mess is so convoluted, with fake texts, fake e-mails, bullying, attorneys, who did what to whom...sheesh! You couldn't write a script like this. Even with a jug or two of Rumspringa, I'm confused.

The only one thing that is certain and remains a constant. Milo is still up Kate's rear end.

Sherry Baby said...


Remona Blue said... 11

I absolutely refuse to give that nasty AW a single click on his blog. He simply can not stand that Robert and his book is tabloid news again, while once again, he is left saying that HE wrote a book too! Booo Hooo, AW...cry me a river!!

______________________
Does he have his nose in this again? That guy makes me sick.

She is evil said...

There are many witnesses to Kate's real behavior. Grandparents, crew, Jodi, Kevin, Beth, Jamie, Gina, Ashley, nannies, housekeepers, etc. Kate wants to go to court? Have at it, crazy woman

chefsummer #Leh said...

SchmeckyGirl ‏@SchmeckyGirl 2h
Seems the phone number listed in @haileyglassman1's fake texts she gave to @kateplusmy8 belong to AT&T NOT Verizon:

Anonymous said...

No, I promise, Hailey's account was suspended for about an hour. I tried a few times. Not a pot-stirrer. It's up now, but was down earlier.

Talked, then Stalked.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 The days of U being pushed around/intimidated...lied abt are over! Too many of us here love U & have ur back always! :)
+++++

Where's the puke buckets when I need it?

Michelle said...

Poor Dr. and Mrs. Glassman. All they did was help a woman with "dog jowls" for a stomach and look what came of it. Sucked into the toxic Gosselin vortex.

njay said...

Let me say one thing about parental alienation. Yes it exists but, I know with my dad, whether manipulation or human nature, he was the hero in my eyes. I was four and of course couldn't understand all the CRAP going on. I knew there were problems but when mom talked bad about dad in any way, she blew my good opinion of her of the water. Ya see, dad never had to discipline us, no time nor did he want to during his short custody time. Dad always made our time fun and happy, mom complained or spoke EVIL of MY DAD. Ya get where I'm going with this?

I think the only way those kids want to be with her is because she makes their life HELL if they don't. She already showed the world the guilt trip during the Palin episode she gives when they don't do what she wants They are probably so afraid to say anything good about him in front of her. Especially if they want something to partake in holidays. I bet they even bad mouth him to Kate. That's why all these "sleepovers" with the big girls. They have caught on to what it takes to make mommy happy. Mady totally knows how to play the game and is good at it. I don't mean that as a slam. I figured that out when the tups had a bday party and she was in the garage when one of the crew asked why she was upset and she said, quite snippy, yes...cause I want one. As she got older I saw how much she now clings to Kate. With Kate, the only way to be close is to make sure your nose is as brown as it can get. Poor Mady, she just want's to be loved and is not old enough to understand how to obtain true love. Ya know, the one that isn't earned or you have to betray others obtain.

Over And Out said...

Seems the phone number listed in @haileyglassman1's fake texts she gave to @kateplusmy8 belong to AT&T NOT Verizon:

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If you go with another carrier, don't they allow you to keep the same phone number? Who knows what happened in this case...

Jennifer said...

"SchmeckyGirl ‏@SchmeckyGirl 2h
Seems the phone number listed in @haileyglassman1's fake texts she gave to @kateplusmy8 belong to AT&T NOT Verizon:"

That's meaningless. A carrier can release a phone # to another carrier on request. So the number could have been a Verizon number then, but an AT&T number now.

Over And Out said...

@Kateplusmy8 The days of U being pushed around/intimidated...lied abt are over! Too many of us here love U & have ur back always! :)

I don't think that even Milo and Milo having Kate's back is going to get her out of the stew she's in right now. What is Milo supposed to do for Kate? Pay her attorney's expenses?

Speaking of which...Kate bought that fancy French yogurt maker, and the meat slicer, and who knows what else to save money. Guess she (or the kids) are going to have to lay out some serious cash for an attorney again. Whose money is she using to foot these bills? She does have the yogurt maker and meat slicer, though.

Anonymous said...

Schmecky Girl is on to something(via her twitter messages).

The messages that ROL are screen shots from Jon's phone are from phone number 2156883298
A sim'ple search on the 'area code 215' 'prefix 688 brings up the following information.

Prefix (215) 688- is primarily in Berwyn, Pennsylvania, and includes 562 phone numbers.
Area Code:215
City/State:Berwyn, PA
ZIP (primary):19020
County:Chester
Type:Landline
Company/Carrier:At&t
LocalTime Zone:Eastern

Please take a note that the "TYPE" is Landline.
Last time I heard, landlines don't have text options (especially in 2009).

Something is fishy in Denmark.

TLC stinks said...

I wonder if any of those confidentially agreements she had everyone sign be overturned if someone wants to testify that they witnessed child abuse? I believe those CA's are the reason many have remained silent.

LancasterCountyMom said...

Sherry Baby said... 40

Remona Blue said... 11

I absolutely refuse to give that nasty AW a single click on his blog. He simply can not stand that Robert and his book is tabloid news again, while once again, he is left saying that HE wrote a book too! Booo Hooo, AW...cry me a river!!

______________________
Does he have his nose in this again? That guy makes me sick.
....................................

I agree with both of you, Remona & Sherry Baby. Al is a foul mouth jealous jerk. I'm not clicking on any links for his site, can't stand him.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Let's not 4get tweeties...besides our encouraging tweets..support Kate's hard work...pre-order #LoveIsInTheMix Make it #ONE! :)

TLC stinks said...

I don't feel bad for the Glassman's. They got to be on TV, TLC probably paid them for the appearance, and Dr. Glassman got publicity for his practice. I bet they also got compensated for allowing Kate to recuperate in their home. How many patients have you known got that special treatment?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 21
I have waffled about her and Steve, but I bet there are emails that exist that prove they were having an affair. I think the affair empowered her even more over Jon.

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If that's so, and it well may be, someone else is going to get dragged in: Gina. Because I just checked and there's a cute photo of Steve and Gina that she's still using as a Facebook profile picture. Of course, it's possible Gina knew, forgave him, moved on, and they kept it quiet. If proof of the affair goes public, then either way the body count will continue to grow....

KarmaVille--love it, Auntie Ann! Miss Karma was a long time coming, but now that she's here she's brought a BIG stick and a bad attitude.

Verizon Info said...

ShmeckyGirl is notorious for sleuthing out incorrect information and posting it as fact. She's done it more times than I can count.

The number WAS a Verizon phone at the time, it's only now AT&T.

It's nice to keep to the facts, folks.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I believe Hailey that she was able to get some texts from when there was a property dispute. Therefore she knows what such records look like. When she heard about Kate's latest let's screw over Jon tour she, being as immature as she, saw it as another opportunity to insert her two cents where she doesn't belong and stir up drama. She either embellished or made up some texts and sent them Kate's way. She thought Kate was bluffing about getting the courts involved. When it became clear that Kate was pretty serious this time, she suddenly pulled back scared with buyers remorse, ran to her mom for help, and had to practically beg Kate to please not publish the texts. That's when the sh&& hit the fan and Kate did it anyway. Now Hailey's just plain mad that a simple request wasn't honored and she's out for blood. She reached out to help a woman scorned and got stomped on, and unlike most other people she has the money to retaliate.

What a week! Wouldn't you be embarassed to be a part of this? Good heavens.

As for who I believe, I don't want to believe the person who is saying the kids were abused, but I have to say, his story is the only one that doesn't have huge, gaping, unexplained holes in it or huge, gaping, confusing parts to it. The only one. I was always taught to go with your common sense and believe what makes the most sense. Well, that one makes the most sense.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

shiitakemushroom hitting the fan said... 17
Hailey Glassman ‏@hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 4h
In life it's very hard to choose between two evils...The Evil Queen from Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs, or The Joker from Batman...#TossUp

===========

My money's on the Evil Queen being Kate and the Joker being Bullyville!

Anonymous said...

I just can't get "worked up" about any of this nonsense. Perhaps I've reached my saturation level with regard to this whole Gosselin saga. Got bored with soap operas too - about 20 years ago.

So, anyone seen Joy? I'm looking for a dance partner. Got Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs spinnin', sing along if you like. Wooly Bully, wooly bully, wooly bully...

(I'm doing the "Mashed Potato")

Anonymous said...

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up. Friggin' nuts!

The kids probably want to crawl under a rock by now. And THEY never signed up for this. Shaking my head and going to bed. Reasons why putting 8 kids on a reality show is NOT a great idea. Especially when you don't have you own crap together to begin with.

Wowser said...

I think she meant Jon was the Joker

LB said...

What will happen when someone is posting allegedly fake 'evidence' online for all to see, isn't that asking for criminal charges? Wouldn't it get the attention of the police, lawyers, or the FBI? I've wondered about that.

Also I think if it's true Jon hacked her emails then the emails can't be used in court because they were obtained illegally, without a warrant. Why didn't he sue in court so evidence could be taken legally? I watched too much law and order!

njay said...

pym said... 32
Wow. Hailey, now Al. Anybody else out there want to stir this pot? There are still lots of bit players not yet heard from.
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Where is The View and E! when you need them. Didn't Kate say she needed to set the record straight publicly when the lie is spread by the media. Kate, this is might be a good time to "set the record straight. Maybe Whoopi would help you again with the law. Ummm..yeah..I think she would give you some good advice. Like last time, "GO HOME, YOUR A CRAZY #$%#%!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Let me say one thing about parental alienation. Yes it exists but, I know with my dad, whether manipulation or human nature, he was the hero in my eyes

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That's good to here. Parental alienation DOES turn some kids against the other parent though. Just anecdotally I've noticed a pretty even 50-50 split, half of the kids will end up siding with the alienator, but half will still love and adore their father and not be persuaded.

With eight kids, I bet Kate's got at least some of them on her side. That doesn't mean they won't figure it out as they get older though.

Upstater said...

Kate's's been on twitter for the past two hours, gathering up sympathy as always, poor poor me. With 8 children in the house, this really should be the busiest time of the day, dinner, homework, baths, etc.... How the heck is she finding the time to tweet? When my kids were that age, there is nothing else I was doing beside concentrating on them during those hours.....Really bugs me.....

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think the Glassman's are basically the shining example of no good deed goes unpunished. Be careful who you bend over backwards for, anyone who has done any kind of significant charity work knows that sometimes it doesn't go how you imagined it would, and that's part of the risk you take when you help others.

I do feel sorry for them actually. You shouldn't be punished for doing something nice. You shouldn't have to deal with fallout from it six years later. They have an adult daughter who has serious judgment problems and they can't control her anymore, if they had to go all the way to threatening to cut her off financially to get her in line, they must be at their wits' end.

(On a side note, Hailey you are a grown-a%% woman who even got a legit acting job. You still take money from mommy and daddy? Sheesh.)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is a cell phone number typically used for landlines? I thought there were sets of numbers drawn from for cells and sets drawn from for landlines. I could be wrong or it might vary by company.

Don't people usually have the same landline number for decades?

In any case I'm sure Hailey knows Jon's old number.

Unknown said...

Berks Neighbor said... 50
''.......County:Chester
Type:Landline
Company/Carrier:At&t
LocalTime Zone:Eastern
Please take a note that the "TYPE" is Landline.
Last time I heard, landlines don't have text options (especially in 2009).
Something is fishy in Denmark.''
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Yesterday when all the uproar started over those text message, I gave my personal experience w/landline and text messages. I forgot what I said, but it involved the subject line...which some thought proved it wasn't a text.

I have a landline, and no cell phone, so I can't 'text' the way those with a cell phone can. HOWEVER, those who want to text me can send the text to my email, and when I respond, it is from my email, which DOES have a subject line.
I usually just 'text' them back using the subject line, w/no message in the email part.

Having said that, it doesn't mean that ''Something is fishy in Denmark'' isn't true. I think that the ''fishy'' part is that Hailey fabricated the ''text'' messages, which she why she is having such a conniption fit over KK trying to bully her into using them against Jon. Hailey knows they're fake and is unwilling to perjure herself in any court proceeding.

If I'm not clear about what I'm trying to explain...please ask questions to clarify.

Over And Out said...


Please take a note that the "TYPE" is Landline.
Last time I heard, landlines don't have text options (especially in 2009).

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Reading area codes are 215, 484 and 610. I went back and searched through reverse phone and it shows that it's a cell phone in surburban Philly:

215-688-xxxx
AT&T Wireless mobile phone from Philadelphia, PA. Four years ago it very well could have been a Reading cell phone number.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

y8 The days of U being pushed around/intimidated.

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You know, this is an insane comment.

Kate did the intimidating and pushing around this time. Period. I am tired of this ridiculous picture of Kate just sitting around minding her own business raising her children and oh whoa is me look at all this hate toward me. Hate doesn't fall in your lap overnight for no reason. On February 27, she woke up, maybe she took the kids to school or some nanny did, who knows, she tweeted about "work", then at 10 o'clock she got on her computer to do that "work"--emailing ex girlfriends from three years ago to hatch some elaborate plan to get back at a man who has said nothing but nice things about her for two years. It's a ridiculous pastime. If she would spend even half that energy at a real job she would be doing well.

Even we admit everyone involved in this has unclean hands. The sheeple cannot admit that this whole thing is absurd, that everyone involved is guilty in some way of at the very least stirring the pot (respectfully, even Robert), and that this whole thing is just one big joke worthy of this blog's finest popcorn.

Over And Out said...


Upstater said... 65

Kate's's been on twitter for the past two hours, gathering up sympathy as always, poor poor me.

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She has no friends. Nobody to talk to. No "real" person to whom she can sob or whine...she has only her tweeties and Milo. Pathetic, isn't it? The person who once made the cover of magazines, photo shoots in Mexico, attending celebrity bashes, being interviewed on a host of national talk shows, and here she is, on a Tuesday night, sitting with her pink phone and trying to amass support from a few total strangers.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Amanda Pietchak ‏@Twitr_me_baby 8m
@Kateplusmy8 nevr been a fan of urs but just watchd celebrity wife swap n thats changed. A lil rough on kendra but ive learned sum things


Kate GosselinVerified account
‏@Kateplusmy8
@Twitr_me_baby aw! Thx. & FYI, all advice was in total love & editing didn't allow all I said :) & Kendra knows that and we r friends4ever!
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Does this woman ever take responsibility for her acctions? (GOD)

First it blame my parents they don't know how to help me and my babies.

Then blame Jon he wanted our show and my show cancelled.

Blame the cruise for not selling enough tickets
Blame CC boss for not understanding me.
Blame R&R for not promoting me.
Blame Robert.
Blame The Haters.
Blame The Bullies
Blame TLC For Firing Me
Blame DWTS Judges & Tony.
Blame Editing for making me look like a witch.
Blame Robert & Jon & Hailey & The Glassmen's.

It's never her fault is it?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm not sure why Al is even talking about some lobster dinner with Jon in August since Robert never said he never had dinner with Jon, he simply said he never went out to dinner at a diner with Jon's GIRLFRIEND. He could have had dinner with Jon every night for all we know, however the accusation was that Jon's GIRLFRIEND was there. Robert said she was not.

He also never said he and Jon didn't know each other in August and heck maybe even shared a lobster. He just said Jon didn't trust him enough to collaborate on something then.

I never gave much thought to him before and never read his book but you all called this one, sour grapes. He could have just used Robert's books to call attention to his book too for "further reading." This is what smart authors do, seek out similar authors and try to piggy back. It's a simple concept, that's why when you look at a book on amazon it suggests six other similar books. I don't know how some people got the idea that competition is a bad thing (maybe never took a basic economics class?) since similar books and products usually HELP each other not hurt.

Unknown said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 67
''Is a cell phone number typically used for landlines? I thought there were sets of numbers drawn from for cells and sets drawn from for landlines. I could be wrong or it might vary by company.
Don't people usually have the same landline number for decades?''
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I've had my landline number since 1995, when it was Southwestern Bell...which became AT&T. When I changed my cable service to U-verse (AT&T) they tried to get me to also buy a cell phone. They keep trying, and one of the things they tell me is that I can keep my landline number...they will move it to a cell phone.

My children kept their landline numbers when they bought cell phones, and my sister was enraged when she learned that she could have kept hers if she'd only known to ask/insist when getting a new cell phone!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So as long as you say mean and nasty things in "love" it's okay?

I say this with love Kate, get a job and get off Twitter. And leave your children's father alone.

Check Please! said...

Oh I would laugh and laugh if there's a draft of THE CONTRACT that aledgedly was drafted for Jon to sign on those discs! You know the one where they were done, but for the sake of the show, they would pretend to still be together? The one Jon told Kevin and Jody about?
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Considering the files Robert has copies of fits the time frame of that alleged "contract" there is no reason to believe he does not have that should it actually exist.
Robert claims to have proof of alleged abuse remember; that is very specific.

Over And Out said...

You know, this is an insane comment.

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But it comes from Milo. You can't expect anything sane, reasonable or logical coming from her. She's still singing "Close To You."

Check Please! said...

To any locals, because we know Jon's been silent, do you still see the kids with Jon? Is there any chance that the kids can't stand him (and vice versa) and don't want to see him?
I just find this so hard to believe, and I unfortunately can believe that Kate is seeking to revoke Jon's custody.
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I live a few miles from Jon and have not once seen him, with or without the kids. Sorry, I realize that doesn't help.

Here's my take on that whole thing. Those kids were doted on from as long as they can remember. Their entire lives consisted of privilege and the best of everything. This was all largely due to the television show. The freebies have been dwindling for a few years now, but don't forget they still get plenty of presents from "Mom's fans" right? Mom's house is huge with the best of everything and plenty of room and toys. Dad's house is a small "cabin" in the woods. If you were a kid where would you rather hang out?
Also, if one parent consistently blames the other for the gravy train slowing down, the kids are going to pick up on that. It's entirely reasonable to think that the kids "blame Jon" for not being able to take nice trips and have really cool things. Why wouldn't they? Their mother has been very vocal in blaming him after all.

Call Me Crazy said...

LB said... 62

Also I think if it's true Jon hacked her emails then the emails can't be used in court because they were obtained illegally, without a warrant.
_________________________________

I can't help but laugh at the thought of Jon "hacking" Kate's emails. He probably didn't have to work too hard to figure out her password. Top choices: IamHot; ILoveMe; ILoveSteve; IHateJon. :)

Check Please! said...

Oh and one more thing for now,
Should it ever actually come to light that McGibney backed the wrong horse, he will never in a million years admit it. He has staked his entire reputation and "brand" on the plight of Katie Gosselin. He will spin her side of the story to the ends of the universe and back. He's in it too far at this point.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admissibility is about how the cops or prosecutor obtained evidence, not how someone else did. Jon doesn't have to follow the same of admissibility that the cops do.

If I stole something then mailed it to the cops, they might be able to use it as evidence. It wasn't them that obtained it illegally. However, they can still prosecute me separately for stealing it while using it to prosecute someone else, lol.

Kate should have called the cops if any computers were stolen and settled the matter right there and then. For someone so hot to call lawyers and police in other instances (we even have pap photos of her bringing the police out over a dispute over a babysitter with Jon) I find it hard to believe she would restrain herself from calling the police if she noticed something stolen.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm starting a new pool here. When Bullyville will turn on Kate! I give it 48 more hours.

Whoever gets the closest gets a prize!

We called this one more than a week ago, the second Kate does something Bullyville doesn't like they will flip, what is she thinking??

Moose Mania said...

I can't figure any of this out. Someone wake me up when it's all over, or if admin puts the meatball sandwiches out on the table.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Let's not 4get tweeties...besides our encouraging tweets..support Kate's hard work...pre-order #LoveIsInTheMix Make it #ONE! :)

Oh groan. The unreal world of Milo is getting more bizarre with each inane tweet.

And as for this:

I don't feel bad for the Glassman's. They got to be on TV, TLC probably paid them for the appearance, and Dr. Glassman got publicity for his practice. I bet they also got compensated for allowing Kate to recuperate in their home. How many patients have you known got that special treatment?


That was then, in the good ol' TLC days,and this is now. They certainly have done nothing to nor deserve to be swept up in the internet Twitter wars of crazy KG.
Why should these people be her collateral damage now even if they were compensated then?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 2h
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx I want to get them a gift & a gift for the little kids 9th bday nxt month.

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 2h
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx What do M & C want for they're 13th bday?
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Her fans...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Orange we're regulars at Chipotle too especially for lunch but sheesh I agree with you, how embarrassing! Who does this? Especially when you are a celeb and you do it constantly and it's so obvious you just want a coupon.
Have the decency to at least email these places privately if you really are trolling for coupons.

Chipotle is so reasonably priced anyway this is just silly.

Sue Buddy said...

Over and Out said:

She has no friends. Nobody to talk to. No "real" person to whom she can sob or whine...she has only her tweeties and Milo. Pathetic, isn't it? The person who once made the cover of magazines, photo shoots in Mexico, atending celebrity bashes, being interviewed on a host of national talk shows, and here she is, on a Tuesday night, sitting with her pink phone and trying to amass support from a few total strangers.
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And she's milking this for all it's worth:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 23m
@JeanneKaye more tears! Thank you! Xoxox

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 40m
@SandieBellz you are. Being here writing positive words... Letting me know I'm not alone :) thank you!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 1h
@SandieBellz you're making me cry. I need to see this.. Thank you, immensely! I'm tired :/

Maybe she should go back out on the church circuit.

gotyournumberKate said...

The lovefest on Kates Twitter since the haters backed off is gag worthy. I've been clicking on some of the people making these comments all of a sudden and so many of them only have a few followers. I'd guess one out of three other than her regulars has less than 20 followers. If they are what is called a Twitterbot what a sad existence for Kate to live in a world of so much deceit and fraud.

Unknown said...

Check Please! said... 78
''.....Mom's house is huge with the best of everything and plenty of room and toys. Dad's house is a small "cabin" in the woods. If you were a kid where would you rather hang out?....''
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Normally, I would agree with you, except for one thing. That one thing is that you are talking about KK and Jon Gosselin's children. Those of us who watched CWS saw with our own eyes the blank, silent Gosselin children, doing their assigned chores just like the little abused children they are!

We have seen with our own eyes the difference in the way the children behave when with their mother and their father. When with their mother, they are silent and look numb. When with their father, they laugh and hug and look at him with sparkling eyes.

I rest my case.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


That was then, in the good ol' TLC days

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Exactly, it's not like the Glassmans jumped into the fray in 2009 well after it was established this family was bad news. Remember the Glassmans were the subject of the SECOND special. There had only been ONE special and frankly there were no red flags in the first special or if there were it was all hindsight red flags. At that time they really were just a nice family with a gaggle of kids. I doubt they needed the publicity, they seemed to be doing just fine without it.

They truly felt they were helping in my opinion, and I think Mrs. Glassman truly liked Kate and wanted to be friends. It's just so out of this world to have their private lives continue to be disrupted like this.

Hailey is absolutely much at fault for this but they can't control their daughter. I'm glad they finally took the step of giving her an ultimatum, NO MORE Hailey.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Many kids don't give a flying fig how big your house is.

That's the problem with Kate, she justified her stupid huge house for the kids when kids just don't care about that thing. You can't filter how a kid thinks through an adult brain. It doesn't work that way. What makes you think there aren't any toys at Jon's house? That's silly.

I'm pretty sure even Kate admitted they enjoyed it when they went over to Jon's apartment, it was fun having a sleepover and they liked the big pool.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Call Me Crazy said... 79
LB said... 62

Also I think if it's true Jon hacked her emails then the emails can't be used in court because they were obtained illegally, without a warrant.
_________________________________

I can't help but laugh at the thought of Jon "hacking" Kate's emails. He probably didn't have to work too hard to figure out her password. Top choices: IamHot; ILoveMe; ILoveSteve; IHateJon. :)
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I bet her passwords was

Ilovemoney or MissSteve or IheatGina

LeeLee said...

I call Monday 4/15, midday. 12-2pm. I'll even predict a Coupon Cabin inspired announcement by Bullyville which will insinuate that they were mislead, they will not get involved in disputes over a book, and now that Kate's twitter feed is quiet, they are not needed.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I saw a post say that they never served lobster at the restaurant.

That Jon & Robert and the guy ate ate the post said he been a customer for yrs and they never served lobster.

TLC stinks said...

Found this on a Crackberry Forum:


11-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Thread Author #1
Is there a way to remove the default setting of "RE" in the subject line of SMS messages? I know you can delete it per message, but is there a way to clear the field permanently?

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Blackberries in 2009 were the phone of choice for business people so it kind of made sense to me that there would be a subject line.

AH, but here's the DIFFERENCE. Hailey's do not have the RE in the subject line which is the default. Hers have "Subject". Why would Jon have changed to RE to Subject? There is no logical reason for him to do that.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't think the Glassmans were compensated or that Dr. Glassman needed any sort of publicity for his practice. I think they were kind and generous and could never have foreseen what they're getting involved with J&K would lead to for Hailey and the whole family.
Especially all these years later.
BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of Kate's temper, seen for perhaps the first time on their show, watch Kate's pre-surgical evaluation with Dr. Glassman. Watch Kate's face when Dr. Glassman tells her that she doesn't need a boob job, after Kate casually mentions she's like one of those thrown in too, thank you very much.
Her dead eyes stared Dr. Glassman down so hard that I'm surprised he didn't vaporize right then and there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ohhh, a "Kate is not Authentic" style post Scotty style?!

Inauthentic 2.0. It's coming.

Love it. Tacos tonight! Chicken, steak or veggies are your options. Place your orders!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I just want to say I had a Blackberry Curve in 2009 which is pretty much what everyone using BB had and I just can't remember how texting worked. I remember texting, but not whether there was a subject or not.

I love my iphone so much more. Sorry Blackberry.

Susantoyota said...

April 9, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 82
I'm starting a new pool here. When Bullyville will turn on Kate! I give it 48 more hours.

Whoever gets the closest gets a prize!

We called this one more than a week ago, the second Kate does something Bullyville doesn't like they will flip, what is she thinking??
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Hmmmm. I'm going to go with 4 p.m. CST on April 10th (tomorrow).

That will give McNiblet time to publicly unleash his wrath on Katie before the weekend and provide hits to ROL as well as his website.

OT, but is anyone else enjoying the ads on this website? I know they're random? but so far I've seen ads re: sending money via Western Union, getting an MBA to advance my military career, free product samples for spring, free laundry detergent, and 70% off home décor.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Her support for estranging the children's father is making her CRY?

Well, that makes ME cry. What a fool.

Moose Mania said...

Love it. Tacos tonight! Chicken, steak or veggies are your options. Place your orders!

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What's on tap?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Moose, just water with lime but I can always pull out some Coronas if it's that kind of night for you!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 82
I'm starting a new pool here. When Bullyville will turn on Kate! I give it 48 more hours.

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I say 72 hrs or BV will be so embarrassed that they will stick with KK.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker, I agree.

I really think the Glassmans thought, "Let's help this young, sweet tired overworked mommy. This will be a fun project for us older folks!"

Nothing more nothing less.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

xxxxxx
@xxxxx @Kateplusmy8 I ordered 9. 1 for me 8 for gifts. Will do more if I can. #teamKate ;)

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OMG. What a crappy gift.

#regiftorsellfor25centsatagaragesale

Moose Mania said...

And she's milking this for all it's worth:

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I hope she got her inflatables pumped up, or that well is going to run dry very shortly.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I don't think the Glassman's got paid either.

Let's remember no one gets paid only KK (Kevin & Jodi) learned that.

Check Please! said...

AT&T Wireless mobile phone from Philadelphia, PA. Four years ago it very well could have been a Reading cell phone number.
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No. It absolutely could not have. All this talk about the cell phone number is making me crazy. Locals who are old enough to remember should know this.  And people should stop speculating about it. Could the number have been Jon's in 2009? Maybe, but only if one of the following is true: 
-he had the cell phone number prior to 1995 and carried it over from phone to phone and possibly carrier to carrier. Keep in mind, not a lot of people had cell phones in 1995.
-he got the number by signing up for a phone in or very near the city of Philadelphia. 

Bear with me...
The 215 area code ceased to be given out for new numbers outside of the city of Philadelphia and very near suburbs beginning in 1994 with the coming of 10 digit dialing in the Philly metro area. Beginning in 1994 all new numbers in the suburban Philly area (most of Bucks, Chester, Delco, and including Allentown and Reading areas) had the 610 exchange, later adding 484. Even numbers that previously were 215 were switched to 610 after 10 digit dialing was implemented. The only way a cell phone would have a 215 exchange is if it was issued within the 215 area, which is limited to pretty much the city.  Jon very well could have signed up for a phone in the city. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_codes_610_and_484

So I reiterate, the number cannot be proven or disproven to be Jon's unless one knows where and when he signed up for the phone. Or a really good slueth could search that number and find out who owned it in October 2009. 

Moose Mania said...

Moose, just water with lime but I can always pull out some Coronas if it's that kind of night for you!

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Works for me. Thanks. After trying to figure out what went down today. I might need something stronger, but I'll start with a Corona or two. If it's not too much trouble, could you frost a mug in the freezer for me? It's kind of like freezing cookies, but you don't need any three-compartment containers, and you actually WANT freezer burn.

Wowser said...

Wow...I am guessing Bullyville bails on Kate by Friday afternoon

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-sued-by-hailey-glassman-over-released-text-messages-the-jon-kate-war-continues-0409/

FYI said...

So a fan asks Kate what M&C want for their birthday, and Kate responds and tells her.

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 46m
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx What do M & C want for they're 13th bday?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 2m
@Sienna_Star @Mydmaxx um... iTunes gift cards I'm sure! Lol!

So Kate not only grifts for herself, now she is grifting for her children. Is she going to tweet a list of what the tups want for their birthday too?

Michelle said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 105
xxxxxx
@xxxxx @Kateplusmy8 I ordered 9. 1 for me 8 for gifts. Will do more if I can. #teamKate ;)
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"Will do more if I can." Good lord, that's one loyal fan. She's already ordered 9 and says she'll order more if she can. You'd think this was a fundraiser for something serious.

Maybe donate the $100 extra dollars you're spending on cookbooks to a worthy cause. Geez are these people for real?

Susantoyota said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 105
xxxxxx
@xxxxx @Kateplusmy8 I ordered 9. 1 for me 8 for gifts. Will do more if I can. #teamKate ;)

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OMG. What a crappy gift.

#regiftorsellfor25centsatagaragesale

April 9, 2013 at 6:32 PM
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Oh please.

If this person hands that crappy picture-cookbook out as gifts, she won't have any friends left. I know I'd wonder about any 'friend' that gave that book to me as a gift. Better to take that money and donate it to the local food bank in honor of "the Gosselins giving back" since Katie Irene never followed thru.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Sue Buddy said... 87
Over and Out said:

She has no friends. Nobody to talk to. No "real" person to whom she can sob or whine...she has only her tweeties and Milo. Pathetic, isn't it? The person who once made the cover of magazines, photo shoots in Mexico, atending celebrity bashes, being interviewed on a host of national talk shows, and here she is, on a Tuesday night, sitting with her pink phone and trying to amass support from a few total strangers.
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And she's milking this for all it's worth:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 23m
@JeanneKaye more tears! Thank you! Xoxox

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 40m
@SandieBellz you are. Being here writing positive words... Letting me know I'm not alone :) thank you!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 1h
@SandieBellz you're making me cry. I need to see this.. Thank you, immensely! I'm tired :/

Maybe she should go back out on the church circuit.

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... You will buy my book now!

Actually, Twitter is better than going back on the church circuit. You can swindle unsuspecting strangers without looking them in the eye.





A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Upstater said... 65

Kate's's been on twitter for the past two hours, gathering up sympathy as always, poor poor me. With 8 children in the house, this really should be the busiest time of the day, dinner, homework, baths, etc.... How the heck is she finding the time to tweet? When my kids were that age, there is nothing else I was doing beside concentrating on them during those hours.....Really bugs me.....

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Kate probably has her twins taking care of all that mediocre stuff for her.

Anonymous said...

This custody/public drama display with these two will never cease.

But I suspect with one pretty much unemployed she's got nothing better to do than make herself look stupid. If you really cared about kids you wouldn't have agreed in the first place to put them OUT there.

Her stupid acceptance of Celebrity Wife swap? What was the point when you know, you're not a real celebrity?

Meagler said...

BwaaaaHaaaahhaaaaaaahaaaaaaa

Kate, this is your final chapter, and it looks like you are going out with some pretty spectacular fireworks.

One thing to note, you should have found yourself a network, and sold them the rights to this Soap Opera, day time drama...its about the only way you are going to make any money...

Marie said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 27m

@Sienna_Star @Mydmaxx um... iTunes gift cards I'm sure! Lol!

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I'm sure too, LOL! My Lord. This woman has no shame.

Marie

Marie said...

So I reiterate, the number cannot be proven or disproven to be Jon's unless one knows where and when he signed up for the phone. Or a really good slueth could search that number and find out who owned it in October 2009.
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What if Kate had an old bill?

Marie

Meagler said...

Interesting, Kate says she can not answer dm's so asks people to email her.

Does anyone else think that might be so she can check IP address's?

I have no idea if you can trace a DM... can you?

She hasnt been dming since Mad british Guy, so it seems.

Unknown said...

chefsummer said... 94
''I saw a post say that they never served lobster at the restaurant.
That Jon & Robert and the guy ate ate the post said he been a customer for yrs and they never served lobster.''
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eat THAT, cry-baby AW!! Just another brick in the wall of AW is full of it!!

Marie said...

Bullyville has been really quiet. No more annoying "tick tock" or "expectus." LOL How juvenile. The tweeter haters are including @bullyville in their tweets so obviously they don't seem so intimidating anymore. I don't know if they will turn on Kate. I think they might just slink away with their niblets between their legs.

Marie

Marie said...

Good catch Meagler. She is so #cunning. :) Except when she gets caught.

Marie

Moose Mania said...

I think they might just slink away with their niblets between their legs.

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Well at least they will have something between their legs because Kate de-balls any men with whom she comes into contact.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

So Kate not only grifts for herself, now she is grifting for her children. Is she going to tweet a list of what the tups want for their birthday too?

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Apparently she still hasn't thanked Paige for the birthday card. Paige had to ask her if she received it.

chefsummer #Leh said...

jjjcmlee ‏@jjjcmlee 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Will bullyville continue to call employers? I WILL GLADLY SHARE MY BOOK KATE HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD

Meagler said...

Oh my gawd, Moose, you made me snort!!!! lol...niblets will be debawled!!!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Because I Earned It ‏@ashymama2 2h
#MiloandJack you've got to be kidding. support her? why? she is unable to work and support herself or kids? Hard work??
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Oh snap.

Moose Mania said...

Oh my gawd, Moose, you made me snort!!!! lol...niblets will be debawled!!!

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Well, you know how it goes when admin keeps pushing those Coronas on us. I just hope I'm not in the bathroom half the night because of her steak tacos.

shiitakemushroom hitting the fan said...

Friday about 3PM Bullyville posts that it's work is done: haters have been vanquished! BV leaves it at that to save face (not that twitter will let that happen).

OrangeCrusher1 said...

BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of Kate's temper, seen for perhaps the first time on their show, watch Kate's pre-surgical evaluation with Dr. Glassman. Watch Kate's face when Dr. Glassman tells her that she doesn't need a boob job, after Kate casually mentions she's like one of those thrown in too, thank you very much.
Her dead eyes stared Dr. Glassman down so hard that I'm surprised he didn't vaporize right then and there.

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Exactly what I was thinking, generosity rewarded Kate style. And I am sure, as a parent can be sure, that Dr. & Mrs. G were not too happy when Hailey took up with Jon in his bad boy period. What a mess that was. So good for them that they finally drew a line in the sandbox of family support.

Moose Mania said...

A fan asked what the kids want for their birthdays. Kate replied iTunes cards. Fan responded:

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 12m
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx 6 itunes cards would be expensive. I have to think about it.

Good grief, Kate. Tell them not to send gifts, but if they feel that they need to send something, give a donation to charity.

A sheeple doesn't have enough money to send what the kids really want, and Kate, a millionaire, just wants those love gifts to keep coming in. I guess since she can't solicit love offerings from gullible parishioners, collecting gifts through the mail is the next best thing. I wonder if these sheeple know that if it's not cash or a gift card, the item ends up in the trash.

Anonymous said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-jon-gosselins-text-messages-prove-he-staged-his-apartment-break-read/

The above is about Hailey's text messages that she provided to ROL to prove that Jon GAVE her his TV from his NY apt. Remember Jon claimed in mid-Dec 2009 his apt. was broken into and Hailey STOLE his tv. Hailey referred to this in the ROL article today. Note ROL has removed the text messages from the above article (hum)!

Well, let's believe Hailey got her text contents from Verizon in 2009 or later to give to her attorney to prove the above about the tv Jon gave her verus stolen.

But the text messages were back in Oct. 2009 that BV printed a few days ago about the computer discs.

TLC Stinks (post #194 previous page) printed out how long Verizon keeps copies of their text contents. They said 3-5 days for the contents of messages.

So how did Hailey get copies of October text contents from Verizon when she got text contents about the stolen tv in December 2009. Remember Verizon only keeps text contents for 3-5 days. When she requested her Dec. 2009 text contents in Dec. 2009, Verizon would not have kept the Oct. 2009 text contents.

Does this make sense what I am trying to say? What am I missing?
Leslie

shiitakemushroom hitting the fan said...

‏@RISXXXXsh 6m
Kate Gosselin is buying a car from my Dad so that's really awesome because she's famous

Sue Buddy said...

Marissa Hendrixson ‏@RISSme_imirish 1m
Kate Gosselin is buying a car from my Dad so that's really awesome because she's famous





Sleepless In Seattle said...

A sheeple doesn't have enough money to send what the kids really want, and Kate, a millionaire, just wants those love gifts to keep coming in. I guess since she can't solicit love offerings from gullible parishioners,

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So a fan, who could be living paycheck to paycheck, wants to send gifts to the kids of a wealthy woman who is sitting in a million dollar house with a pool, three cars and a LEATHER sofa.

You just want to bang your head against the wall at the stupidity of these people. What kind of a hold does she have on them?

I bet Milo hobbles out tomorrow to get those itune cards.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Moose Mania said... 132
A fan asked what the kids want for their birthdays. Kate replied iTunes cards. Fan responded:

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 12m
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx 6 itunes cards would be expensive. I have to think about it.

Good grief, Kate. Tell them not to send gifts, but if they feel that they need to send something, give a donation to charity.

A sheeple doesn't have enough money to send what the kids really want, and Kate, a millionaire, just wants those love gifts to keep coming in. I guess since she can't solicit love offerings from gullible parishioners, collecting gifts through the mail is the next best thing. I wonder if these sheeple know that if it's not cash or a gift card, the item ends up in the trash.
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Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 2h
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx 6 itunes cards would be expensive. I have to think about it.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

So grifting = corporate love offerings? Guess this is another glimpse into the warped mind of Kate Gosselin. What bawls to even offer up a reply to an internet stranger, sheeple or not, in the form of a suggested gift for her oh so not underprivileged children. The ONLY acceptable answer is a polite thank you, but please, if you must, donate something to a child in need.

And yes, Admin on Chipotle, it is so seriously affordable, with a decent kid's menu, that her grifting is both laughable and pathetic.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

When she requested her Dec. 2009 text contents in Dec. 2009, Verizon would not have kept the Oct. 2009 text contents.

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Unless back then they kept them for a longer period of time. In criminal cases, aren't the attorneys able to retrieve text messages that go back longer than 5 days?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Looks like Roberts not the only on exposing KK.

Reality TV’s Kate Gosselin Uses “Anonymous” As Her Personal Army : Part One

http://leestranahan.com/reality-tvs-kate-gosselin-uses-anonymous-as-her-personal-army-part-one/

Interesting.

Millicent said...

The panic Hailey exhibited over Kate releasing the text messages causes me to suspect that those are likely fake. She probably called her mom in a panic, which led Mrs. Glassman to try to talk some sense into Kate (no luck there).

I doubt this ever goes to court -- but if a lawsuit was filed and these texts were provided as evidence to support claims Jon was involved in some nefarious plot -- then Jon's attorneys could hire experts to prove either that these were fake messages, or that there was no way for Hailey to have retrieved them at this late point in time.

I think Hailey freaked out because she realized if this got to the level of having to testify, she'd either have to perjure herself for Kate, or come clean - one is a serious crime and the other would be vastly and publicly humiliating.

The level of panic she exhibited just seems to point to her falsifying those text messages, not realizing the possible consequences of doing so. She's not particularly smart, but she is most definitely vindictive. (Don't know what went wrong with the Glassman's parenting, but their daughter is a hot mess.)

foxy said...

I say Bullyville will be gone Friday the 12th at 11:30 am EST. They sure are quiet aren't they? I wonder if someone can go to the library in the 215 area and see if they still have a 2009 phone book. Not everyone has a computer so just maybe they would have one on hand. Sounds silly but I know in small towns they had them.

Anonymous said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-hailey-glassman-suing-jon-gosselin-and-she-wants-do-it-judge-judy/

This is another article about Hailey and the TV. This is the one where the text messages link is gone.

leslie

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The panic Hailey exhibited over Kate releasing the text messages causes me to suspect that those are likely fake. She probably called her mom in a panic, which led Mrs. Glassman to try to talk some sense into Kate (no luck there).

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Exactly. Why did she give her the texts in the first place if she were suddenly going to take it back? She just wanted to get Kate all worked up because for some ridiculous reason people who like drama like playing games like this. She freaked when the game got out of control and Kate was going to go public with it. There's not much better explanation for her literal overnight change of heart.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Marissa Hendrixson ‏@RISSme_imirish 1m
Kate Gosselin is buying a car from my Dad so that's really awesome because she's famous

Oh really? Care to comment Milo? Guess the cookbook pre-sales were really under reported. New car, lawyers's fees, no job - just how does Supermom do it?

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi Flight of the Kiwi! I have been dancing at the Big Dance, NCAA basketball championship. Just caught up on Dancin With Them Thar Stars tonight, watched my recording of Mondays show and tonights results show.
Spoiler free! Comments on Mondays show only!
Kellie Pickler is just adorable! Jacoby Jones is super adorable! Zendaya is just plain cute! Ally the gymnast is soooo flexible! Love them all! I love Leonard Cohens ”Hallelujah”, loved that Andy Dick danced to it, loved that he said he had to make up a lot to his kids, for the years he was not sober.
I am bringing Stella Artois beer, a veggie tray, and some dolmades or stuffed grape leaves to share.
When will Chicken McGiblets decide he doesn't know how to help Ms Kreider? Maybe Friday, that gives him a few days to pick a new crusade.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know what people like this do? They stir up all this crap and drama themselves, then turn around and tell themselves they DESERVE things like some flashy car because she's been through so much.

You can orchestrate this to justify just about any unnecessary or expensive.

Anonymous said...

One more comment. Remember in the Oct. text messages that BV printed, Jon typed out every time the word "you".

In the Dec. 09 text messages from Jon, every time Jon typed out "u" for you. Very intertesting indeed.

I think Hailey faked both sets of text messages.
Leslie

Unknown said...

Oh? KK got a new car? I thought we all knew that last Thursday after reading her 'bog' about Mr. Tow Truck Man taking her to get a rental car.

Cthulhu the Cuddly said...

Beware puny mortals! My minion Kate Gosselin continues to spread chaos and confusion! She is a worthy minion to Cthulhu! After she has spread chaos and confusion, she will be rewarded with tentacles and wings like Cthulhu!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Oh really? Care to comment Milo? Guess the cookbook pre-sales were really under reported. New car, lawyers's fees, no job - just how does Supermom do it?

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Milo sent her a gift card for a new car? ;-)

AuntieAnn said...

I say BV already climbed the wall and is about 2000 miles past Kateville. See ya.

oh and Yay! Moose is on the loose!

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Virginia Penn Mom - Mr. McNipples owns Karmaville too. lol! His (cough) motto is "As She Has Planted So Does She Harvest. Such is the Field of Karma".

I don't think Kate knows it exists. Yet.

AMD said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
I just want to say I had a Blackberry Curve in 2009 which is pretty much what everyone using BB had and I just can't remember how texting worked. I remember texting, but not whether there was a subject or not.
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I am still using a 2009 Blackberry Curve :)and there is no subject line in my SMS text messages.

AMD said...

Here is a clip from the tummy-tuck episode. Mrs. Glassman seems to be really nice and had the best intentions in helping Kate. Kate should have nurtured this relationship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqWRXZB8Ts

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I say BV already climbed the wall and is about 2000 miles past Kateville. See ya.

I nominate you for the prize!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm tired of condescending screen names especially when they always change. It is rude to the people you are responding to. Posts with condescending screen names will not be published.

SCgal said...

As an aside - I'm watching the Nightline I taped last night and they had a segment on Dancing with the Stars. When they were talking about Tony, they said that he's often paired with some of the more prickly females and they showed him with Kate. Then he said he's had some tough partners and it's no secret about Kate (being one of the tough partners). Hahaha. They were making the point that since he's a gentleman, he gets paired with the hard-to-deal with partners.

fidosmommy said...

To Christina Rich. Save your money. Even if you sent the 8 kids a $100 iTunes gift card each, and sent Kate a year's worth of K-cups, she won't remember your name by nightfall.

njay said...

Here's my take on that whole thing. Those kids were doted on from as long as they can remember. Their entire lives consisted of privilege and the best of everything. This was all largely due to the television show. The freebies have been dwindling for a few years now, but don't forget they still get plenty of presents from "Mom's fans" right? Mom's house is huge with the best of everything and plenty of room and toys. Dad's house is a small "cabin" in the woods. If you were a kid where would you rather hang out?
Also, if one parent consistently blames the other for the gravy train slowing down, the kids are going to pick up on that. It's entirely reasonable to think that the kids "blame Jon" for not being able to take nice trips and have really cool things. Why wouldn't they? Their mother has been very vocal in blaming him after all.
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Sorry, I respectfully disagree. Children who, though abused and desperately seeking love, do not care about toys. They internalize the sins of the parents as their disobedience and seek anyway to make the parents happy. You saw, I assume, the video of Jon dropping off the kids. You think Kate let them get away with acting like that? NO WAY! Those dead eyes you see in the boys? They are afraid to love their dad in front of their mom and love their mom in front of their dad. I do not believe that Jon gets angry if they do. I think they are just lost when it comes to loving either. They just want to be loved and don't know how to.

This is experience saying this. Long story short. Mom lost my sis. of 6 month in tub drowning. They got divorced when I was 4. Mom gave guilt trips and never remarried. I heard the story all my life how I was the one wanted most out of 6 because of sis loss. I internalized that as I must make mom happy to take away the pain from my sis loss. Of course I was too young to understand that when I was little but as an adult it all made sense why I try to fix everyone. Why I need to be accepted. Why I never married, I couldn't measure up. I would have given my own life to take mom's pain away.

When I moved in with my dad just before he died, I asked him if I made him happy. He asked why. I said because I wasn't my sis and I couldn't take his pain away. It was nice to hear him say I was me and she was her and I made him happy. I didn't get to know dad until last five years of his life so I never got the guilt trips like mom gave me. Oh..wait..unless I asked to borrow money. Then "you're just like your mom, you will never have money, etc. etc." hehe HE WAS RIGHT! DARN!

I really have to pray through sometimes when I see those boys, the feelings I feel for Kate make me feel like I have missed the mark and she is just not worth it. I see through those boys eyes and feel their emptiness. I'm glad the pit bull, the worst breed said by some, gave little Collin love. That wasn't a coincidence. Nope, it's not a big home or toys they long for. It's a kiss from a bully breed, if it's pure, and stretched out arms ready to grip you so hard you feel your heart beating together the same blood that flows each others veins that they long for. That's when you can't help but smile so big your cheeks hurt. You KNOW you're loved.

Just one more thing. When I saw the picture Robert posted of Jon with his arms outstretched and his daughter running to him, I saw me and my dad when dad came for his custody. The really neat thing, dad had told me a few months before he died that that very scenario actually was his favorite part of picking us up. Isn't that amazing. 50 years later and Roberts picture depicts me and my dad. I told you I could feel them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

AMD ah good, that is a great little smartphone! That was when I knew smartphones were actually going to a place that was going to be useful. I did really like how incredibly customized you could make it. Anything could be customized from icons to names to sounds. The iphone doesn't allow you to customize nearly as much. The thing is though software updates and whatnot means how we text might be different than how we did it in 2009. I hate to say it but I do sort of remember texting being different before, I just can't remember if that was because of a subject line or something else. I also remember something weird about being able to text from email.

.... Hilary Swank has what looks like a great HBO film coming out about a mother who spread awareness about Malaria in Africa after her young son contracted it there on a family trip. I like hearing about TV worth watching.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Njay...157
I agree,I don't think the "toys" are that important to them because TLC always bought them gifts. Also, Kate is extremely lazy and has given a lot of Jon's daily chores around the house to the kids.

When Kate said the kids don't want to go to Jon's house, the truth is they don't want to return to her house after they visit their dad! I think her strict rules make it a very unpleasant home environment , JMO.

Also the behavior those kids have always expressed for their dad has always been very loving! I always felt Kate was jealous of their relationship. I also think that she tries to brainwash them but I don't think it works!

TLC stinks said...

Verizon Wireless spokeswoman Jenny Weaver and Sprint PCS spokesman Dave Mellin said text messages are not stored anywhere after delivery.

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This is from an article dated May7, 2009 on CBS.com regarding text messages in criminal cases. I'll see what else I can find.

TLC stinks said...

From a Vodafone blog in 2009:

The actual content of text messages are only saved on the verizon servers for 3-5 days and then the information is purged, unable to be recovered. It takes a subpoena to release the content of the text messages. Once the information is purged, it's impossible to recover the content. The only records that are saved, is the date/time/number the text was sent to and received from.

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My conclusion is that in 2009 you could not retrieve text messages from the Verizon server after 5 days.

Perhaps Hailey was able to retrieve her text messages on a memory card in her phone? Why the statement to Kate that her attorney retrieved the text messages?

TLC stinks said...

The class action suit was for publicity and will never happen although Bullyville will not come out with that information. With that many plaintiffs, it could take a year or more before it could even be filed. The sheep are an ignorant bunch.

I think Mr. Bullyville Man has already moved on and when you go to their Twitter feed and no longer see articles regarding Kate, it is over. People are already requesting his help on other bullying cases. I say it will be done by Friday.

Regarding The Stir, I suspect along with you guys that she got a new car. Has she ever cleared up what happened to the Audi? She's a contributing writer so conveniently they could phase her out rather do a public firing. She has served her purpose with them getting the hits. As CC said, she is " not authentic" and their readers know it.

MJ said...

Admin,

In the e-mails posted in the back and forth with Hailey, Kate was introducing her to some intellectual property attorneys. The goal she told Hailey was to supposedly link Jon to Robert/the book. Why or how would it matter how Robert obtained the disks in an intellectual property case?

I can understand Kate wanting info to discredit Robert or try to hurt Jon's custody (which wouldn't happen because of something like this), but do you have any thoughts of why she'd involve those particular attorneys in something like this?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

fidosmommy said... 158
To Christina Rich. Save your money. Even if you sent the 8 kids a $100 iTunes gift card each, and sent Kate a year's worth of K-cups, she won't remember your name by nightfall.

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And won't thank you either!

TLC stinks said...

According to RWA, Kate bought a car from a dealer in Garnet Valley, PA. This person must have figured that out from the tweet by the girl excited her dad sold Kate a car. NOT AUTHENTIC....get it, The Stir?

Vanessa said...

"Kate Gosselin is buying a car from my Dad so that's really awesome because she's famous"
**************************************888

Baha, well there you go! Who fricken called that one? That whole post was a crock of sh@t, it NEVER. HAPPENED. SHEEPLE.!!

gotyournumberKate said...

I have a special place in my heart for children who go through parent alienation by a parent. My mother remarried a man when I was 6 who didn't want us 3 children to have anything to do with our father. He would put us in the car and take us away a couple of hours before my father was to arrive for his custody after 100 mile trip. He had my mother get rid of all of our baby pictures, her wedding rings, and anything that had anything to do with my father. He had the police waiting to arrest my father once when he came for custody because he was late in his child support payments. I could go on and on but the moral of my story is alienation will often backfire on the parent doing it. I begged and cryed and screamed and nagged and didn't stop until they allowed me to go live with my father. My mother was devastated. I have lived in the same town with my father now since he passed away this past September even though my mother and stepfather divorced long ago. My heart bleeds for the Gosselin children being put in the middle of their parents. I can only hope that at least some of them are able to escape the monster they have for a mother someday and that she will never succeed at getting them to hate their father.

FYI said...

njay-Robert reposted those pictures of Jon and his daughter on his blog. I would like to think he did it just for you.

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

mamaK said...

I think it interesting that Kate's plan in the emails to Hailey is that after they get this stuff about Jon out there, they will come off as strong women fighting a wrong. If you look at Kate's twitter that is exactly what she is doing. Playing to the masses. It's why she's so hooked on twitter. Its like there is a script in her head that she is working off of, and twitter lets her get the picture out. It's also, I believe, why she is so mad at Jon. He went off script.

I think, it also puts the kids in serious danger. JMO. They are going to be kids. With the exception of M, who is following Kate's lead, the kids are going to go off script. Kate's image hinges on the stories she tells about them and her mothering. She can't let anything come out that is contrary to the script in her head, which may lead her (probably already has) to isolate the kids and cut them off from the world because they are not putting out the picture she wants them to. Sick.

gobsmacked said...

It's been interesting how Kate's been conducting a scorched-earth campaign against a book with no specific release date. As far as I know, Robert hasn't said anything more specific than "soon" as a release date. At the least, Kitty Kelley's biography of Frank Sinatra had a more specific release date when Sinatra's people started lobbying against it.

As long as Kate keeps running around acting like somebody on angel dust, Robert probably isn't feeling the urgency to release the revised book. Why release the book when just the hint of its arrival is enough to get Kate raging against the darkness?

Kate is so deep into her alternate universe that it wouldn't be a surprise if, in addition to raging against the darkness, she's also spinning around in a white plastic swivel chair and cackling, "Cry havoc, and let loose the dogs of war!"

SG said...

I was in the middle of typing and my comment disappeared when I hit something by accident so I'm sorry if this is duplicated.

Regarding the cell phone number... If I'm wrong then I have no problem admitting I am wrong.

I found out online through more than one source that the 688 prefix was assigned to AT&T. That's a FACT, no? Am I wrong about that? If I am, please explain. Maybe I misunderstood it. ???

The reason I thought it was relevant that the number is listed as AT&T not Verizon is because if that is true then that alone proves the texts were fake.

I was told it's possible that the number was transferred to Verizon. Okay, so if that was the case, then it doesn't help much. However, if it wasn't transferred to Verizon then that would PROVE the texts are fake.

If the number is now Verizon or always was Verizon, it still would NOT PROVE the texts are genuine. It also would not prove JON wrote the texts.

My thinking is this:
NUMBER BELONGS OR BELONGED TO AT&T AT THE TIME
* Proves texts are fake

NUMBER BELONGED TO VERIZON OR WAS TRANSFERRED TO VERIZON
* Does NOT prove the texts are real
* Does NOT prove Jon himself wrote and sent the texts

I guess the next question is whether or not Jon had the number under AT&T at the time the texts were supposedly written. Not sure how that can be proven...

Anyway, I'm still seeing the number listed as AT&T when I google it. So what am I missing?

Again, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I still say regardless of the Verizon/AT&T discrepancy that those texts are fake.

My opinion is Hailey made them up like she did the notes she provided Radar Online. Hailey didn't expect to have to testify under oath about it and perjure herself and she panicked and backed out.

wowser said...

Robert has 2 more articles on his blog!

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

I wish that Kate would use her intelligence (albeit evil intelligence) towards good.

The schemes she cooked/cooks up in her head always backfire.

It doesn't matter that she dreams the impossible dream. Any venture will fail because of her twisted mind.

Let's face it, she's her own worst enemy.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

This is really rubbing me the wrong way-

why the hell would Kate say to Hailey's mom:

"my kids... I need to get my kids away from Jon".

What is Kate insinuating? That her children are in danger with their father?



A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Robert has a new post at Gosselinbook-
"The Best Day Revisited"...

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-best-day-revisited.html#!/2013/04/the-best-day-revisited.html

Anonymous said...


I think Col. Mustard did it in the library with a candle stick. Then again, I saw Professor Plum at his computer typing emails, but didn't see any twitter activity. Go figure.

[Because I have absolutely no idea what is going on despite skimming through the posts here. So convoluted and confusing.]

heather

P.S. to brownie lovers:

This is the BEST brownie I have ever had. EVER. I used dark chocolate cocoa powder, and OMG. So yummy. I'm thankful the recipe is for an 8 x8, if I made the 9 x 13, I'd be in real trouble.

http://www.melskitchencafe.com/2012/07/the-best-fudgy-brownies.html



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


why the hell would Kate say to Hailey's mom:

"my kids... I need to get my kids away from Jon".

What is Kate insinuating? That her children are in danger with their father?

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This is just proof positive to me she is a classic obsessed parental alienator. They always think this, that they have to go on some grand mission to "protect." What specifically they are protecting FROM they can rarely articulate.

The bottom line is, if Jon were a danger, she can go to the judge and get him monitored visits or no visits. Since no such thing has ever happened, more likely than not her fears are more imagined (and linked to mental illness) than real.

Mel said...

"Kate Gosselin is buying a car from my Dad so that's really awesome because she's famous"
**************************************888

Baha, well there you go! Who fricken called that one? That whole post was a crock of sh@t, it NEVER. HAPPENED. SHEEPLE.!!


Didn't one of this group call this as early as last Friday?

She always foreshadows.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In the e-mails posted in the back and forth with Hailey, Kate was introducing her to some intellectual property attorneys. The goal she told Hailey was to supposedly link Jon to Robert/the book. Why or how would it matter how Robert obtained the disks in an intellectual property case?

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I'm kind of at a loss too. I guess maybe to prove that KATE did not give them up freely? If you're going to sue for copyright infringement Kate herself could testify and say that is not my property and I did not consent to turning it over. Done. I guess she maybe was trying to get at least one more witness to say she did not consent to turning those over. I didn' trealize this was even an issue.

Frankly, this sounds like one of those things where a client calls their attorney and says I have this GREAT witness I'm going to put you in touch hold on. The attorneys say well I don't see this as really necessary, Ms Gosselin, I'd hate to bill you for all this time when this is neither here nor there. Kate: No trust me I want to put you in touch trust me we need this. Attorney: Okay, we don't, but if you feel this strongly, go ahead, it's your money.

By the way witnesses in a case are the attorney's call, not the client's. So they can indulge her on this wild goose chase but a the end of the day if they don't need any of this red herring stuff they don't have to use it.

Mel said...

Remeber how she foreshadowed DWTS? She was talking with Leno (I think) and out of the blue says "You know what I've always wanted to do? Be on DWTS!"

Yeah, right. You who has the dance ability of a shopping cart, has never shown any athletic interest, and are clearly not artistic. You always wanted to go on DWTS?
Uh huh.

She knew then that she was booked for it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She always foreshadows.


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Yes. What she is, is calculated.

I'm not sure she grasps how obnoxious she is. It is hard to take anything she says seriously because it always seems so calculated. She was trying to ease us into her newest midlife crisis poor me I deserve it purchase by making up some convoluted story about how her sports car died. The bulk of what she says on Twitter is in some vague response to some other criticism, or trying to discredit Jon, or her haters, or someone. It's weird and annoying. Can't she just speak like a normal person and not always have an ulterior motive?

Mel said...

A very nice apology on gosslinbook this morning...to that Radar Online guy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I think it interesting that Kate's plan in the emails to Hailey is that after they get this stuff about Jon out there, they will come off as strong women fighting a wrong.

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Me too and I think it speaks to her level of delusion. Other than a few sheeple who support anything she does, most people saw that whole scheme as petty, vindictive, and just plain nasty. They were a joke, those two. People shook their heads and compared it to a bad soap opera. People told her to go get a job at 10:30 on a Wednesday not call digging up old girlfriends to get back at Jon "work."

And yet she thought it was going to be some grand vindication as trumpets play and angels sing. In her twisted mind, it was.

She just can't grasp that no matter how right she may be, it doesn't make it any less petty, vindictive and nasty.

chefsummer #Leh said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 175

I bet KK said to Ms. Glassmen.

"Jon betrayed your daughter and myself I have a way to prove her innocents or a way to clear her name. I just need you guys help.

chefsummer #Leh said...

My mom told me once that a mother can be jealous of their children.

And that a father could be jealous of their children.

I think KK is extremely jealous of her children love for Jon.

Anonymous said...

One thing that is super hilarious about all of this mess (which I admit, I have not been able to follow), is that Jon is NO part of it.

Kate, Bullyille, Hailey,Mrs. Glassman, Robert, Al W, ROL, tweeters ... are all commenting, participating in various roles ... and Jon remains silent.

Love it. Who's the smart one now?

heather

OrangeCrusher1 said...

With the energy she spends on creating convoluted stories, poorly written and usually demeaning to someone at that, to cover her poorly disguised 'foreshadowing', just think what she could get done in a day. Oh wait, it's Kate, well more time for Twitter.

Too bad not a pap left to get a picture of that 'loaner' car. Sheeple, still wànt to send birthday gifts to these poor children. Chipotle, any coupons for this poor struggling MomX8 who can't even fit her kids in her new 3rd car (1 driver, 3 cars)? Mindboggling.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Leslie I was thinking how hilarious that is too!

It makes them all look like they are running around in a shouting match with a brick wall who never talks. It makes them look, well, CRAZY.

The best decision he ever made was to shut up and ignore Kate. This is the ONLY thing you can do with a narcissist and parental alienator, there is nothing you could possibly say to help. The only way to hurt them is to not acknowledge their rantings.

NJGal51 said...

@XXXXXXXX @MiloandJack @ChipotleTweets ha ha ha I thought that-- &you know what? I won't let them stop me from thanking companies I bel in!
14 hours ago - Twitterrific

XXXXXXXX @Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack @ChipotleTweets watch out Kate your "friends" on twitter will say u r grifting ugh
14 hours ago from Mobile Web (M5)
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She'll only continue to believe in them if they send coupons and/or gift cards. BTW, hasn't Kate said that they rarely go out to eat and did this cause a panic?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She "believes in" Chipotle? For heaven sake they are a multi million dollar fast food restaurant, owned by McDonald's I believe, opening new restaurants all the time. She acts like she is supporting a charity, or at least helping some local business no one has ever heard of. Gimme a break. It's Chipotle! LOL.

How about just be normal and go eat at Chipotle and not think about some ulterior motive.

Vanessa said...

"Didn't one of this group call this as early as last Friday?"
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That person deserves a prize, maybe a gift card for Chipotle?

She is evil said...

I love how the whole bullying thing just went away. Poof. Bullyville washed their hands of Krazy and she is acting like nothing ever happened. Now it's back to grifting and tweeting. Love that she's trying so hard to swing public opinion in her favor but almost no one gives a shit anymore.

Michelle said...

AMD said... 154
Here is a clip from the tummy-tuck episode. Mrs. Glassman seems to be really nice and had the best intentions in helping Kate. Kate should have nurtured this relationship.
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I don't think Kate knows how to nurture a relationship. Only how to manipulate and control a relationship. Once Dr. Glassman made it clear a free boob job wasn't in her future, she had no use for the Glassmans IMO.

The old saying "in order to have a good friend, be a good friend" I have certainly never witnessed in practice by Kate. I can't imagine life without good friends.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

It's a new religion - thanking "companies I believe in". Hahaha. Even her fans recognize her grifting tactics. She just loves Chipotle because she can feed her 8, count em 8, kids for under $5 each. Well, that is if they don't have to share a kid's meal. My toddler grandsons can polish one off, which makes me wonder if the almost 9 year olds are underfed even at Chipotle. Crazy biotch. And no one is buying her latest whack Jon campaign, guess she may need real 'work' soon.

She is evil said...

Perfect example: someone with some sense tries to warn Kate that her behavior might inflame people and she smacks them down. Why the martyrdom to tweet chipotle no matter what? She's probably already got her damn free food

Marie said...

She is evil said... 194
I love how the whole bullying thing just went away. Poof. Bullyville washed their hands of Krazy and she is acting like nothing ever happened. Now it's back to grifting and tweeting. Love that she's trying so hard to swing public opinion in her favor but almost no one gives a shit anymore.

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Exactly. When you can't even get ONE of the sleazy gossip rags to care about you, then you might as well just go back to your mediocre life and take care of your children. She needs to step back, get herself in check and heal her mind. She is a sick woman who is obsessed with getting back at her ex-husband. Imagine the lessons she is teaching her kids.

Marie

TJ said...

OMG, I "believe" in Chipotle....ya that got me giggling actually, this is a sign of grandiose thinking, Kate really needs some counselling.

Anonymous said...

Why or how would it matter how Robert obtained the disks in an intellectual property case?

---Kate owned her journal & emails that she wrote on her computer. This was her intellectual property. IF Jon stole the disc (intellectual property,i.e., emails, journal) and then gave Robert the stolen disc then Robert would not have owned them to publish them in his book. Only if they were discarded (then no longer Kate's property) would they belong to Robert.

Personally, I think the disc were found in the trash and therefore were then Robert's legally.

Does this make sense Admin?
Leslei

Marie said...

I always wonder . . . do her friends and family just leave her or do they try to advise her? She obviously has some issues from her past that she needs to clear up before she can be a good parent to her children. She is setting such a poor example for those kids. If she doesn't get help, her children will be the ones who pay for it. I wonder what her best friend Deanna is thinking right about now?

Marie

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