Sunday, March 3, 2013

Recap: Celebrity Wife Swap. Welcome to Shawshank.

Coming up on Celebrity Wife Swap. Kate gets to tell some other nice family raising their adorable son just fine that they are doing everything all wrong. This will go on for 42 long minutes. Batten down the BB Mercedes, it’s going to be one long, hypocritical ride. 
  
People know Kate best for Dancing with the Stars and for her reality show. No Kate, people know you best for your vile personality and also for sucking at motherhood.

Wow, I didn’t realize Kate had three books on the “New York Best Seller List.” Where’s that prestigious literary office out of, Jamestown? These books may have once been on some list in days gone by, but now according to the people on this blog, they’re bird cage liner.

What’s even funnier is no one bothered to tell Kate about her gaffe and let her do a take two. I like when it’s obvious production doesn’t give a crap. We started seeing a lot of this toward the end of Kate Plus 8: bad editing, poor sound quality, etc. There was even an episode where they didn’t even bother to put music in. Like a lazy high schooler printing out his English essay, the “eh, that’s good enough not to fail now let’s get some beer” attitude is amusing.

I see Jon’s now in the witness protection program, blurred face and all. Hopefully he’s somewhere tropical! As usual, Kate paints a picture that Jon is dead, but don’t worry, they were able to make this “positive” somehow, though she never explains what she means by this. Kate does all the cooking and oversees everything else. This really means, Kate does some of the cooking some of the time and the hired help does everything else all of the time.

“Somewhere around 2011” Kate was divorced, she said. Uh, no, Kate, you were separated and divorced in 2009. That’s more than three years ago, not one. Though judging by the way she still isn’t over this, 2011 sounds more much plausible, sure why not. Kate suffers from a permanent case of what can best be described as "fuzzy memories" and it’s nearly impossible to live with these kinds of people, always made to feel like you’re the crazy one and not crazypants here.   

Mady sums up Kate’s parenting style better than I can. “You’re going to do it my way,” she says with a slap of her hands. Pretty much. From refusing to let her 12-year-olds enter their own kitchen, to barking at them to put their napkins in their laps and roll up their jeans and tuck them under their boots and now I say, to the countless lists and more written rules, regulations and decrees plastered everywhere, a stint in Alcatraz is starting to sound like more fun, especially if a young Clint Eastwood could be there. I’ll even risk the life raft popping!




“All I’ve ever really known is work,” Mady says. “Work is a bad thing when you have too much.” Sniff.

Manipulated, demure B-personality Deanna better known around these parts as @DeannaTweeting, the BFF flavor of the month, will play the “husband” for this little lab rat experiment, as a poster here so accurately described it. But wait, @DeannaTweeting is a woman, you say as you scratch your head, and the hired help. You see, Kate has acted as preying mantis to anyone of the male persuasion so there are none left to choose from. Hired help it is!

Ha, I like how Kendra just owns it. People know me best as Hugh Hefner’s girlfriend, she announces shamelessly. That is correct. Kendra and her helpful husband Hank are cute, funny, and affectionate. Their little son Hank Jr. is a free spirit with darling long curly hair. It’s nice that Kendra acknowledges her hired help by name, Rosa, gives her the respect to call her what she is, the nanny and not just that person who watches my kids or the "babysitter” or “helper,” and describes her as a member of the family. Aw. I bet she even gets benefits too! I noticed the stark contrast between Rosa wrestling around with Hank Jr. on the couch, the two of them giggling up a storm, contrasted with @DeannaTweeting who gives one of the girls a light, polite hug when she arrives you might give some second cousin you barely know. The hug is shown twice from two different angles, making it seem like she hugged her twice to an undiscerning viewer. She didn't. 

Kendra says Rosa and Hank make it possible for her to lounge by the pool, party and otherwise behave like a trust fund baby, though she is also shown kissing Hank goodbye as she goes off to work. The women say goodbye to their families and head to each other’s respective houses. The hypocrisy has already started, with Kate admitting the kids don’t want her to leave, and the kids looking genuinely crestfallen to see her go. I thought they just loved this idea and couldn’t wait to do it! To me, these look like kids who just want things to be normal over their Columbus Day holiday and maybe even see their dad and friends.

“Hollywood is very Hollywood,” Kate says philosophically as she gesticulates. Even a wild hand flap can’t save that inane comment.

While Kendra tries her best to compliment the Wolf’s Lair as tidy, Kate saunters around Kendra’s cheerful, family friendly colorful pad, pointing at a little clutter here on the counter and crumbs there on the floor, and deciding the absolutely vast chef’s kitchen is not big enough. The whole thing takes an unexpected and might I add creepy turn when Kendra discovers the witch’s crematory just like in Hansel and Gretel! Oh, wait that’s just the bread machine. 

Hey, I just realized who the voiceover narrator is! Took me ten minutes to place it. That guy who narrates Extreme Couponing. Aw, I’d love it if he could do for us a little dramatic will they won’t they get their bill under 95 cents before they crash the cash register?? He makes coupons for half off Cheerios and 10 ketchups for $1 each edge of your seat thrillers. I had nearly as much fun with him as I did making my way through Locked Up Abroad recently. This is what reality T.V. has come to, but you can tell this guy totally just embraces it. Might as well.

Kendra and Kate sit down to read each other’s house manuals, standard formula for this silly show. Kendra is honest about her hired help, discussing her cook, housekeeper and nanny. Kate for some reason acts appalled about this (sorry, Katherine), and with a straight face, says she’d rather be all three. What she really means is she’d rather control all three, not actually be all three. There’s a difference. She must have forgotten how many times she’s told us about all her hired help. In fact her manual, posted online, says they’ve been through so many nannies she can’t even keep track, and she did an entire blog post about how she’s had at least a part time housekeeper since the children were babies. Babies! That’s nine years! These are but two examples of dozens of Kate’s admissions about her staff. For her part, Kendra is mostly just worried about how she is going to remember all these names. Think top ten popular baby names from 2003 and you’ll be fine, Kendra.

Oddly, all Kate will do this entire episode is judge Kendra, her family, her household, everything and anything about her. And yet in an interview with Inside Edition the other day, she goes on and on about how her bad experiences in the public eye (oh, poor thing!) has taught her one thing. Sadly, it’s not, I need to change my nasty behavior. Rather, she has learned not to judge. I think what Kate means to say is she doesn’t want to be judged. She couldn’t care less if anyone else is judged.  

By the way, Kate did so much hand flapping in that interview I thought she was going to take off. This is the interview where she was peddling some snake oil about how wrongly portrayed she is. I think hand flapping is the proverbial Pinocchio’s nose. The more you flap the more you’re lying. Oh, and she insulted Californians by implying it’s all Easy Street over here and all Kendra has ever known. She should take a stroll through Watts sometime and see how easy folks have it. The median income in California usually only hovers a few thousand dollars above the national average, nothing to write home about. California has a few incredibly wealthy neighborhoods that get a lot of screen time, but other than that, it’s like any other state, mostly hard working Americans just trying to make a living, with good parts, bad parts, and mostly in between parts. In fact, Kendra’s parents split when she was, sadly, only eight, a little younger than the twins, and she was hardly raised in Beverly Hills living in that mansion between Lisa and Adrienne. No, she certainly wasn’t poor, but she did grow up in the San Diego suburb Clairemont, which bears a striking similarity to Wyomissing, demographics wise.

Kendra took the divorce hard and turned to drugs to cope when she was only thirteen (thirteen!), and soon afterward, stripping. Otherwise, she had a pretty average childhood with public school and several years on the softball team. All Kendra’s “easy” childhood tells me is that it doesn’t matter how secure your family is in every other way, divorce can be very tough on kids and any mother who is brushing off the kids as “just fine” post-divorce needs to make sure they are delving a bit deeper. Kate always seems to judge people, including herself, on the possessions and environment that surround them, and never understands that those things usually have little correlation to happiness, how “easy” you have it, or how mentally stable you are. Anyway, I’m glad Kate decided to throw Kendra’s upbringing under the Mercedes because it prompted me to read up on it and actually discover what seems to be the root of Kendra’s issues, being a very young child in a broken home. Are you listening Kate? Approve of some of Kendra’s choices, nope. Excuse them, not on your life. Understand them better now, yes.

At O-Six hundred-and-three the children are to come downstairs for breakfast. Not 6:05, Kendra says in disbelief, not 6 o’clock. But 6-0-3! Welcome to Shawshank, Kendra. Fresh fish! Fresh fish!



Commercials. Kate also promoted this appearance on The View this week, in which I guess Brooke Shields drew the short straw and had to ask all the questions, bless her little heart, while Whoopie just sat there brooding. I’ll always remember Whoopie calling Kate an “angry bitch” and her desperate cries of “She got to go! Vote…her…off!” during Dancing With the Stars. It’s like she had been bottling it all up for years and it finally exploded, and also, she was at the end of her rope at not being able to get through to dimwits like Sherry. Now, she’s back to bottling, apparently. I get it, there’s a certain point where you’re just done trying. Kate’s outfit choice was inappropriate, to say the least.



Is she sure that was a dress and not a plus-sized babydoll top? That awkward moment when you realize that outfit you are wearing is not what you thought it was.

We’re back. Kendra appears to be doing some sort of Lamaze breathing in preparation for meeting the kids. Ha. The kids are hardly enthusiastic to find her in their house. They are incredibly shy and distant. When Kendra asks who’s excited, only Alexis raises her hand. Mady knows full well who Kendra is because she snuck downstairs to watch her show. So much for the schedule! @DeannaTweeting pronounces her name as Dan-a. That’s odd, I thought it was De-anna Tweeting. Or maybe she’s just mumbling like a New Yorker. No matter. 

Hank, Hank Jr., Rosa and Hank’s business partner (heh, so L.A.) meet Kate. Hank brings her a gorgeous big bouquet of flowers. Aw. As Hank pours Kate a glass of wine and fires up the grill, Kate remarks that she never gets to watch someone else cook. Geez, did Katherine die too?

I’m surprised @DeannaTweeting didn’t have to reference her propaganda manuel when she, with a straight face, informs Kendra that Kate does it all herself. Number one, @DeannaTweeting doesn’t even live in the same state so I hardly think she knows what goes on around here on a day to day basis. She is just basing this off what Kate tells her. Number two, Kate herself admits she certainly does not do everything (rather, she “oversees”), so @DeannaTweeting can put a sock in that one. I have to hand it to Kate though, she sure knows how to recruit for the Kate Youth.  On a side note, what a slap in the face, @DeannaTweeting, to all the people who have ever helped this family out, often for nothing in return. This is why Kate runs through dozens of nannies, when someone like Kendra likely will never lose Rosa until Hank Jr. is 18. And why you, Deanna, will probably, sadly, never move as far as you probably should in your career, as long as you make BFF with pathetic people like Kate. 

The kids seem to stick to their normal routine, doing their chores/hard labor and setting the table. Kendra just kind of goes with it, albeit perplexed the whole time. I like the compliments Kendra is giving the kids, that they are so smart, especially Mady. At dinner, Mady prays that Kendra will survive this week. That was sweet of her, though I’d be surprised if God cares about making sure D-list celebrities successfully swap households. Heck, I didn't even realize God had a T.V. I guess you never know, maybe He skipped NCIS this week to watch this. 




Interesting, Kendra has some real friends named Jessica and Kristen who stop by for dinner. We’re quickly back to Kendra, who is close to losing it at this point, her hair is disheveled and her forehead shiny as she puts the kids to bed. She gets them off to dreamland and heads downstairs to rinse off the eggs.

“I’m washing an egg right now,” she says. “Out of a chicken’s butt!” Thanks for the visual, Kendra. 

Ooo, I like their little shoe cubby hole by the stairs that holds all their shoes without being an eyesore. Nice. Sounds like a wet mess in the winter though.

Jessica and Kristen take Kate clubbing. At a place that features a strip pole. For someone who claims she’s only been clubbing once, she sure is tossing back those shots and Long Island iced teas like a pro. 

Kendra is awake early and makes the kids a perfectly acceptable breakfast of Cheerios and fruit, though the kids tell her, rather rudely, they want to have eggs. Geez, cut the gal a break, it’s her first morning here. On another note, had Rep. Murt's new child labor laws been in place when they filmed this episode (they weren't yet, almost), they would have just broken them, anyone catch it? Under the new law, there must be at least a 12 hour break between shooting the night before and shooting the next morning. Since Kendra fed them dinner and put them to bed the day before all on camera, and we know they go to bed around eight or so, having them filming again the next day at 6 a.m. was not a full 12 hour rest. And, this is just one reason why reform was needed. (The new law cheat sheet, downloads as a PDF.)

I like how Kendra listens to them and respects what they are saying, but doesn’t back down. She is a cereal person, she explains, and “we’re gonna get there” when it comes to eggs. But it’s not going to be this morning. Kendra is, surprisingly, rather good with kids. She talks to them like she's actually interested in what they have to say. It’s surprising how many adults don’t really know how to speak to a child. She could have told them she doesn’t care what they think, which in a round about way is exactly what Kate does. Instead she listened to their suggestions and offered to try it, just not for this particular breakfast. The boys seem to be having the time of their lives with this experiment, staring blankly forward without a word and not even acknowledging their new mommy. What’s going on here, their names weren’t drawn to tar the roof?



Kate finally rolls out of bed at nine o’clock, just as Hank is taking Hank Jr. to school. He instructs Kate to just relax. I guess from this little piece of information Kate has decided Hank is “enabling” Kendra. Or, you know, he’s just trying to be hospitable. Could be that. Kate bemoans outside by the pool that if she only had as much free time as Kendra (snort!) she would spend it with Hank Jr. I’m sorry, I missed the implication that Kendra and Hank aren’t spending enough time with Hank Jr. The kid’s usually around so far, he seems to be an active enough participant in the family dynamic and very comfortable with Kendra and Hank, he just melts into them like an adorable, curly haired little marshmallow. What information is Kate basing this rather serious accusation? You don't have to be with your kids twenty-four hours a day for heaven sake. He can go to school and see kids his own age like everyone else is doing in Calabasas, and you can even sit by the pool a little. 24/7 is not what anyone expected of Kate and it's not what anyone expects of this family either, except Kate. It's always extremes when it comes to Kate. The world is black and white, there is no gray, in her rigid mind. Not to mention, the only jobs she's really had in the past two years is a scant few media appearances and to write up a few silly blog posts once in awhile. The kids are in school all day. What does she do all day. Errands, I guess? How can you be doing errands eight hours a day five days a week? Not to mention she's off duty when Jon has the kids. Comparing her schedule with Kendra's IMDB, I'm really at a loss how Kate isn't the sloth here with more free time than most women could ever dream of in a lifetime. If she isn't, she is not as organized as she thinks she is. 

Back at the Wolf’s Lair, Kendra is up to things the hired help normally tackles, like the laundry and grocery shopping. And if there’s any doubt that the hired help doesn’t do the laundry, I think Kate’s directions taped to the machine will settle that! “Mandatory Uniform Policy. Check shirts for stains. After 1st wash [unintelligible] run with 2/3 cup bleach. Stain free! Doors need to be open when not running.” Now why would you need such elaborate directions for just yourself unless you have some kind of short term memory disorder ala Joseph Gordon Levitt in The Lookout? If that’s the case, your problems are bigger than messing up the mandatory laundry policy! Try robbing banks with such an issue, it’s no picnic. 




Kendra is all mouth agape exaggerated shock at the three bags of fruit she puts in the car. I never understand why people act so amazed at the amount of food that eight kids consume. Haven’t you ever been to, like, a large dinner party? More people, more food consumed, it’s really not that much of a Christmas miracle. 

Hank is really going out of his way to give Kate a great experience on her vacation. And this is a vacation. He gives Kate a golf lesson, an activity she conveniently packed a bright blue polo shirt and starched white shorts for. She’s actually not bad for her first time. Golf isn't easy I'll give her that, but she did it. It would be nice to see her at least try to take up a sport her kids are interested in instead of making them feign interest in whatever she's into at the moment. 

Kendra is still trying so hard to try to make a connection with the kids, even though they are understandably distant. She is a stranger after all and they were just abandoned by their mother for the week and have some flavor of the month BFF living in the garage apartment who doesn’t even appear to be around (I guess Deanna is really taking this "husband" role to heart. I appreciate her method acting.). Kendra's Herculean efforts are really touching. She relates to Cara because of sports and seems to have a “breakthrough,” she says. This is no act. You know these types, the “Yeah, dude, I love Grand Theft Cars!!” First of all, it’s Grand Theft Auto, and you’ve never played it a day in your life. Nice try though. Like I said, Kendra really did play on a real softball team as a kid for several years, so the Yeah Cara, I love sports too thing is for real. Kendra says the kids are “amazing” and talks about how much she adores Hank Jr. and how she doesn’t know how you would divide up your love among eight kids. That’s so funny, I’ve only ever heard the non-fans talk about how amazing the kids are and worry about how you could possibly give eight children the attention they need. Should we invite Kendra over here?? Kendra sincerely wants to know what Mady’s into. Mady goes on and on about loving acting and Kendra makes supportive comments like “amazing!” and I was into that too! (Another true statement, Kendra has several real acting credits on her resume, including a role in Entourage, and a couple bit parts in the Scary Movie franchise). I have to hand it to Kendra, I don’t think anyone exactly wanted to root for the Playboy Playmate here, but she makes it hard not to. 

Hank is proud of himself for getting Kate to loosen up, he says he deserves a pat on the back for that. He deserves more than a measly pat for that. Like something closer to a wallop. Over dinner out, Hank says nice things to Kate like that Kate is a strong woman who will find her Mr. Right, and Kate looks into Hank's eyes and says Kendra is really lucky. Aw. This dinner kind of has a Fatal Attraction vibe about it ....




Then Kate ruins the nice moment by saying to be a better mom she, Kate, needs to step away from her kids. Oh, give me an ever-loving break. We can all cite a hundred examples of how much this woman has neglected her kids and put herself first. She's talked all the time about how much she loves being away from home. Disgusting. 

Back at the Wolf’s Lair, the chore chart is so long it doesn’t even fit on the T.V. screen. The kids tackle the chores like little motorized Roombas, silently and effortlessly moving through the house with brooms and dustpans. They look like brunette Children of the Corn, it’s that creepy. I keep wanting to smuggle them a poster of Rita Hayworth and a Bible with a cut out inside to put a little rock hammer. Pretend you're just carving a chess set, kids.

This sad situation doesn’t go unnoticed by Kendra, and she really says it best here. “The hardest part for me is realizing these kids have so much to do, and so many jobs to do. I’m a big believer in a kid should be a kid,” she explains, her eyes welling with tears. “I know that they need structure and chores, but this is hard because .... “ She actually has to pause a moment she’s that emotional. “I just don’t like to be so strict, I feel bad, you know?” she finally chokes. Oh my God. 

Commercials. It’s pretty bad when a kid is doing so much hard labor they are actually making a grown adult weep. Usually when adults see kids doing chores all you hear from them is, “Eh, it’s good for them!” 

We’re back, and now we finally get to the interesting part of the show (well, as interesting as a show like this can get), where Kendra and Kate get to impose their own rules on the household. 

I love this, Kendra's first rule is the boys and girls are going to switch chores. Boy did she nail this one. Say what you like about her but that girl knows exactly what’s up and figured it out in only one day too. This one's got book smarts, she’s a regular Andy Dufresne.

It’s pretty pathetic that such a rule isn’t the norm anyway. Why are chores designated across such rigid gender stereotypes in the first place? Here’s a wild idea, why not just rotate the chores? Fairly, across all eight kids? No designating chores by gender. And Kate has the nerve to criticize Hank for “pampering” Kendra? Isn’t that the ultimate gender stereotype, the romantic leading man and his pampered housewife? The poor boys are so checked out none of them really respond to this change-up. The girls moan and groan but seem game, I guess. Good, they need to get a taste for what their brothers go through.

Back in L.A. at Casa Kendra, Kate has finally been allowed to set up a satellite bunker to the Wolf's Lair, and it's creepy how much happier she looks now. Unlike Kendra, who speaks off the cuff, Kate apparently needs little cue cards so she doesn't mess up telling Hank he's enabling Kendra by pampering her. Aw, poor Hank looks genuinely crushed. You have to be careful when you insult how a man treats his wife. You could be met with tears or even a fist.

"Why is Hank doing practically 100% when there's (sic) two parents?" Kate asks.

I don't know Kate, why was Jon doing practically 100% when there were two parents?

Kate announces Rosa is outta here and she'll be taking care of Hank Jr. "You're not care me," Hank Jr. says defiantly. Ha, kid's got a lip! The kids resist Kendra's idea to have a picnic with tacos in the basement. Mady reminds them these are the rules of the psychological experiment they were neither emotionally or intellectually old enough to consent to. No chores, lots of playtime, the kids cheer.



@DeannaTweeting is making annoying faces and mutters some nonsense about how the kids need the schedule to make the house run and keep the kids happy. Shut up, @DeannaTweeting. It's not the kids' responsibility to make the house run, it's their job to go to school, after-school activities, play, and lastly to do some chores, within reason, that don't interfere with those other things. They didn't ask for a mansion. If you want a mansion, you don't get to enslave your children to keep it up. Downsize, or hire a larger staff, and be done with it.

Kate puts the Hanks on a schedule with chores. "Call her Miss Boss now," Hank snarks. Heh, that's not all I would call this woman, but it's a start.

Well, the girls seem to be doing just fine tending to the chickens. They like it. Kendra talks about bonding with them. You know what I like about Kendra? She doesn't just treat this as an experiment to see how she would react to a different situation, like how Kate views it. She treats it as an opportunity to get to know and love eight kids, and try to make a difference in their sad lives, however small. I am moved by this, truly moved. Just proves that no matter what your past, it doesn't mean you don't have a beautiful heart. The kids show her their really cool treehouse, but, oh man, it's locked! Locking the treehouse is as odd as locking your refrigerator or something. Not something most normal people would ever think to do unless you are maybe A Child Called It’s mother. Kind of funny that Kate and her fans defended this later as being a safety issue, when the treehouse has a vast staircase with a railing safer than many real house stairs. 
  
"Mady said to me, I didn't have this much fun in two weeks. That's all I needed to hear," Kendra says with a big genuine smile. When was that, when she was at Jon's? Oh, snap! I am happy Mady is having fun, but confused why there would be such a long stretch of misery in between. She is only 12, how hard can her life be? Under Kate's reign, pretty awful apparently.

Hank Jr. happily puts away his toys and is so cutely proud of himself for earning piggy bank money. Aw. Naturally, Kate really can't help herself, gloating and shooting smirky looks at Hank the whole time, which is odd, since Hank never said he objected to Hank Jr. doing chores and in fact made it clear he supported Junior starting to learn responsibility, he just said he knew it would take time to get used to it is all.

Kendra picks just about the absolute worst meal to have on the floor, tacos. Hannah steps through Alexis's taco and then giggles sinisterly about it. Ugh. The kids are so horrified by the mess and chaos and Alexis is nearly in tears. Great, now they're going to have an even bigger phobia of emancipation. Poor Kendra tries to tell them that spills are okay but they're really not having it.

I don't mind this rule, Kate says Hank Jr. should sit at the table with his parents. Hank Jr. is having a hard time behaving, but like his father said, this will take time. You can tell Hank is starting to crack under all the criticism, but this man has the patience of a saint.

Aw, Kendra arranges for an ice cream truck to pull up to the house and they love it. Kendra has already started processing this experience and thinking about making changes in her own life, opining that she should spend more time with her family. Good for her.

While Kendra has long taken the kids to school, Kate's finally up at 9 a.m. Did she party last night again? Kate keeps Hank Jr. at home today and they have breakfast, play, and do an art project. It goes all right I guess. I don't like how she constantly talks down to Hank Jr and corrects him, that will get old real quick, but Hank Jr. seems fine. I like the mischievous twinkle in his eye, like he's inwardly cataloguing all of Kate's transgressions for when he someday takes his sweet revenge.

Baw-haha, I love this, Kendra's girls day is not with any of Kate's friends, but with @DeannaTweeting and one of her friends. Really? All of PA and they couldn't find one friend of Kate's to go to lunch with?

"They're amazing kids," Kendra emphasizes once again. Aw. She really believes this, too. "To Kate! To Supermom!" Kendra says as she toasts. Kendra, Kendra.

Kate admittedly has another rather good idea, she arranges a family yoga session for the Hanks. Babies doing yoga poses is unexpectedly adorable! I dare you not to say "aww" at this:



And how about this:



Anyway, the problem here is that Kate is hellbent on getting Hank to agree that this is the most fantastical amazingish idea she has ever come up with. Hank is reluctant, explaining that Hank Jr. already does yoga at school and Kendra has her own class. See, Kate needs to offer up ideas, and then let Hank decide for himself if he wants to change. Some he may resist, some he might actually be open to, like the chores. But insisting he must agree with her and only her on each and every thing is only going to make him more resistant. And, it just seems rather arrogant. And hypocritical of course, that's a given.

Kendra takes the kids out for a fun night go carting and one of those play gyms with ropes and climbs and such. The kids adore it. I mean, adore it. Mady's taking photos, they're cheering, it's great. Kendra says she wants them to have real childhood memories besides chores. Kendra, don't worry, Kate has devoted her life's work to seeing to it they make memories. The memories thing is well covered.

Glenn Close over here is giving Hank sultry looks as she explains that Hank does more than his fair share. You know the Five Love Languages? Hank's love language is "Acts of Service," that's all. Kendra admits she needs to change a few things, fair enough, but maybe she brings different things to the marriage, like income, humor and emotional support. Not every aspect of marriage is measured in brooms and dustpans. I would guess her love language is probably "Words of Affirmation" judging by her interactions with the kids. Hank explains this is what works for them and he likes it. Since it's not hurting anyone and they seem happily married, I don't see why it's so darn important to Kate that Kendra do more hard labor, other than jealousy and resentment. Just let them speak their own Love Languages and leave them be. Also there's this weird undertone like she's trying to imply that she was once in a marriage like this only she was Hank (double snort!), and she's trying to "save" him from her sad fate. Pathetic, yet hysterical too, since delusion is funny to me. Also, anyone see the irony in a divorced woman who can't even get a date giving relationship advice to two happily married people on their first marriage? Tee-hee.

Kendra is still learning about herself over at the Wolf's Lair, realizing that if she can manage eight kids on her own, she can manage one on her own. She's still washing eggs, I don't know why that's funny but it is. Meanwhile Kate's still gloating about what a difference she had made in Hank Jr.'s life because she gave him a few chores. The swap is over, and of course Kate has already decided that she learned that she has the best behaved kids ever and thank God she implemented such a militant schedule or these kids might have turned out like, gasp, Hank Jr.! Why am I not surprised the only thing she would get out of this whole thing is to feel even more validated?

Kate, Kendra, Hank and @DeannaTweeting gather at a roundtable to discuss the experience. Kendra says nice things like the house felt like a family home. 

Kate in reply tells Kendra that Kendra doesn't care and just lets everyone else do everything. Kendra is already in tears. Does Kate have to try to be such a bitch or does it just come naturally? I see no problem telling poor Kendra that maybe she could change up a few things, but you don't have to be cruel about it. And funny thing is Kendra learned this all on her own this week without Kate's help before she ever sat down. Hank is basically like, that's just not true, she's great with Hank Jr., and that Kendra shouldn't change. He's finally cracked!

Kendra could have left out the "I need to go out and get drunk" comment, but otherwise I don't understand why Kendra isn't allowed to maintain her friendships in Kate's world. I liked what Hank did, invited his buddies over for a grilled dinner while Hank Jr. was there. That way he is still getting to socialize without neglecting Hank Jr. There is a happy compromise somewhere. 

Kendra asks if Kate has ever been through a live for myself stage. Baw-haha! Kendra, this is no stage. That implies someday you might come out of it. Kate's all like oh no never! Meanwhile @DeannaTweeting is just dumbly nodding at all this. She's so obnoxious. 

Kendra sounds like a normal person saying schedules are great I never said I object to schedules but there should be a bit of spontaneity every once in awhile. Amen. Kinda sad when a Playboy Playmate knows more about child psychology than a nurse.

Kendra talks about going off schedule to see the treehouse and how fun that was (even though it was locked, Kendra still made it fun). Basically Kendra is trying to tell her to let the kids go off schedule for things like that, but @DeannaTweeting says what they are trying to say is Kate needs to "forgive" herself for taking 30 minutes out for herself. Well, Kate's open to that suggestion, naturally. Oh Lord @Deanna, that is not what Kate should take away from this at all. Go away.

The bottom line is Kendra and Hank learned some wonderful lessons from all this, and they talk about growing up and spending more time with Hank Jr. Kate is so tearful that she helped Kendra accomplish this. Kate, you didn't do anything, it was spending time with the kids that made Kendra think. Kate of course learned she is right and also that it would be nice to have someone else to share her workload. What workload? Maybe she means all the chore charts she writes? That probably does take considerable time!

Final score, Playboy Bunny: 1, Shrew: 0.


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SG said...

Also, if Kate has to exploit her children to make money to support herself and them, she has NO business spending money on manicures and hair salons. Save that money and do your own hair and nails and maybe next month she won't have to sell their childhood.

Midnight Madness said...

You don't have to like Kate but you have to admire the fact that she has not dropped the ball and let the kids rule the roost.

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No chance of that when a control freak has children who are afraid that anything they do contrary to her orders will set her off. We've seen it on television. It can't be any better behind closed doors.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's always extremes isn't it? No one said the children should rule the roost we just don't think it should be a dictatorship. There's a happy medium.

Laurie said...

Thanks for your input Kate (@188). When did you retire from teaching?

SG said...

I'm sorry, but comments like Retired Teacher's above, just piss me off. Why is it always extremes with Kate's fans?
Why must it always be militant Kate style is the way to go otherwise you are just letting your kids rule the house and walk all over you and have an inevitable future of delinquents for children...
There's balance. What about the importance of a house run with love and understanding? There are ways to discipline your children without harshness and "No one speaks but mommy!"
Sometimes children have good input, and it's nice to at least hear them out if they speak to you respectfully.

Tucker's Mom said...

You don't have to like Kate but you have to admire the fact that she has not dropped the ball and let the kids rule the roost.
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Countless single, WORKING moms do this each and every day without pimping their kids out.

SG said...

Kate's kids wouldn't dare try to rule the roost after Kate set Mady and Cara up for failure in that one episode where they run the house for a day.

FYI said...

If you don't work on the children when they are toddlers, teaching them structure, then you have no one to blame but yourself
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Work on the children? Such as beating them with a spoon to "happy them up"? Pulling them up by the hair and beating them because they didn't conform to your potty training rules? Being afraid that you would hurt them so much, that you had to call your husband to come home?

That's not teaching them structure, that's teaching them to be scared to death of not doing things mommy's way.

pym said...

Retired School Teacher said... 188
8 children who come home to a home

Oh, Retired School Teacher, where to begin? I really can't think of a way to say this kindly, but I doubt the veracity of your credentials.

You are quite correct that many other children have it far worse than the Gosselins. I don't recall ever seeing one post on this blog that disputed that. However, an orderly house is not always a happy house and we dispute whether this house is as orderly as portrayed and see little evidence of happiness. All the yelling that goes on is one indication of unhappiness. It would be wonderful to see friends running in and out. Why do you think that is a bad thing?

I'm sure some other posters will comment on your other points, so I'll catch a breath here before I fill up the board with mine.

SG said...

Retired Teacher said...
Kate is the mother, the adult, the responsible person who is doing a good job as a Mother and an adult. It is fine she goes to a manicurist, hairdresser is her reward to herself. I do that, so why is that wrong if your family is receiving everything that you can give them in a loving household.
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Kate isn't giving those things to her children. They are providing it for themselves. They provide income for the family by appearing on TV shows and on Kate's blog posts in photos and by her sharing their personal stories.

Kate lives and sleeps in that big house too. Kate feeds herself too.
Kate is rewarding herself with tanning, hair salons, manis and pedis, as well as trips to NYC to have dinner and trips across country to run marathons.
What are her children's rewards?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

And it wasn't even a ladder it was perfectly safe stairs with a railing lol. I laughed about it in the recap. And yes you can get up and down the stairs to your heart's content without a key. Kendra and the kids went up it!

NJGal51 said...

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Mel said...

No one has advocated for letting the children rule the roost, but you don't need to terrorize them either.

Mel said...

Not one child looked or acted unhappy.

No, they just looked brain dead.

Jennifer said...

"Being a single mom must be hard, but you can't keep driving home how hard it is to your kids."

Sure, being a single mom is hard. But Kate isn't (and never was) a single mom, no matter how many times she tells us she is. She is a *divorced* mom. There is a difference.

Jennifer said...

"As for the tree house, how is it a safeguard to lock it because climbing the ladder could be dangerous? The ladder is there regardless of whether the tree house is locked or not. There is a little porch the kids could climb up to that isn't locked. I don't see how locking the tree house itself protects anyone from a fall from the ladder."

Or, as Kate would spin it, locking it is to safeguard against vagabonds taking up residence there. That's why the key is locked in her bedroom (which is also locked) and not in any other part of the house the kids can access ;)

Susie Cincinnati said...

Question for retired teacher:

Should a nine-year-old be able to use a knife and fork to cut up his own breakfast, or if he did, would he be taking control and therefore ruling the roost, defiant of his mother's taking charge of the situation?

SG said...

Retired School Teacher said...

Anyone can play with their kids but that doesn't get them the kind of life where all their needs (state law by the way) are met and also their wants, that is where their mother comes in. She does the work, they are all well adjusted children and they would not change that feeling of security, safe clean home where they know there is 3 meals a day, nice clean bed at night ...
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"Anyone can play with their kids..."
Yeah, except for Kate. She never plays WITH her kids. Even on the fake Family Game Night episode, Kate did all the playing so that they could just finish up the game quickly.

"Kate does the work..."
???
Those kids do the work. They do the household chores and take care of each other. They also support the family by "working" on TV and sharing their lives on Kate's blog.

Susie Cincinnati said...

And it wasn't even a ladder it was perfectly safe stairs with a railing lol. I laughed about it in the recap.

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lol!! I don't see her using a key or barricade in their home to prevent them from going up and down the stairs!

SG said...

Retired School Teacher,
So does Kate go over to Jon's house and clean it and make their beds and cook the kids dinner when he has custody?

Tucker's Mom said...

Oh, Retired School Teacher, where to begin? I really can't think of a way to say this kindly, but I doubt the veracity of your credentials.
*****
Me too.
Teachers are some smart cookies and this all or nothing, Kate is good and Jon is bad thinking lacks rationality. They are both human but these rabid fans think Kate is a saint.
She's beaten her kids, lied, grifted, stolen money from good people and sold her kids' childhoods and privacy for money.
Go ahead and try to refute any of these allegations.

FYI said...

In any family where there is 2 parents, one parent is the disciplinarian and gives structure and the other parent is the one who laughs, is like another child in order to play with their children and that gets old very fast as these kids grow up.
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Where did you come up with this thesis? What did you base this on? Jon and Kate?

In the families that I know that have two parents, BOTH parents jointly discipline their children, and BOTH parents laugh and play with their children. BOTH parents are involved in raising their children to be happy well-adjusted adults.

So how can you say "in any family that has 2 parents", that your scenario is correct? Your defense of Kate as Supermom, has no validity, IMO.

readerlady said...

Retired School Teacher -- You are correct, up to a point, about the way KK runs her household and about her being the parent and making the rules, and also about rules and structure being important to kids. But only up to a point. I've been a classroom teacher, too. Yes, a schedule is important, and so is structure, but there needs to be a certain amount of flexibility built into that schedule. Do you stop a Social Studies unit, when the kids are all excited and participating and LEARNING, and say "We have to do math, right this minute"? No. Or at least, I never did. If the kids are participating and learning and excited, then I continued, even tho the schedule said "Math". Funny thing is, at the end of the day, there was rarely any spill-over to the next day, unless it was planned to end that way. That's the problem with KK. She isn't organized or scheduled, she's regimented. There's no flexibility built in, for anything. And things do come up that will throw a schedule off. Someone wakes up sick. A shoelace breaks when you're tying your shoes. Someone accidentally spills milk or juice during breakfast. KK can't deal with these sorts of issues, as witness her treatment of Mady and Cara when they came downstairs a little before schedule. She has those kids regimented down to the minute. They have no time to just BE. Also, if KK doesn't have the phone on during meal time, how does she manage to twit about it constantly?

I don't see anything wrong with a kid helping out a sick parent, up to a point. Fetch a glass of coke, carry a tray in, find an extra blanket. But they shouldn't have the sole responsibility. KK way overreaches boundaries. That episode where she asked the "little" to rub her feet was, I think, the same episode as Joelgate, and the tups were about 3. I agree that too much responsibility is given to the twins. One episode, early on, showed Mady staggering around with a tup, who was almost as big as she, in her arms because she'd been ordered by KK to take care of the tup. She was about 6 at the time. Another incident around the same time, Mady was forced to relinquish a cherished doll to one of the little girls. And giving their Mom massages -- just creepy.

SG said...

Jon didn't want to get married or have children? Possibly, but he did. And when he did he stepped up to the plate. Those kids will have a lot of video footage as proof of Jon taking care of them, taking care of Kate and taking care of the house (all the things Kate took for granted and complained she now had to do once Jon was gone).

We really don't know what Jon is doing now, or what his life is like, or what the kids' lives are like when they are with him. Jon is keeping all that private now, as it should be.

SG said...

Kate is a twit said... 10
If you don't work on the children when they are toddlers, teaching them structure, then you have no one to blame but yourself
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Work on the children? Such as beating them with a spoon to "happy them up"? Pulling them up by the hair and beating them because they didn't conform to your potty training rules? Being afraid that you would hurt them so much, that you had to call your husband to come home?

That's not teaching them structure, that's teaching them to be scared to death of not doing things mommy's way.
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Agreed!!

SG said...

LOL Admin! That's right! It was a staircase! hahaha.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate's locking the tree house is just control. It's not dangerous and they have fricking walkie talkies.
This is a mother who let her 8 kids loose in a basement and in their rooms without ANY monitoring. CCTV is cheap but it wouldn't occur to her to put some cameras up and yes, even in the tree house?
If I had a house and property that large, you'd better believe I'd put more security measures in than Kate has. Cripes, she's even said the basement door is so easy to get in and out of that the dog can do it.
This is just common sense stuff yet Kate will have you feeling sorry for her because her kids were climbing out of their cribs and falling and pushing over furniture.
Get lower beds or crib enclosure, get CCTV and fasten the chest of drawers to the wall!
Yet people think she's mother of the year.
I don't get it.

Audible Click said...

Retired School Teacher said... 188.
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I do not admire the "fact" of Kate's style of parenting. Lets take a little look at the reality we've seen, in no particular order. Sick child placed on the laundry room floor so he would not vomit in his bed. A child threatened to tears at the loss of his lovey, due to a bit of gum stuck to it. Two of the boys denied their birthday cupcakes while their siblings enjoyed theirs. Children not allowed in the kitchen until precisely 6:03 AM.

Since you brought up clean clothes, lets look at Kate's laundry rules in her own words:

"I made a rule a few years ago, that all kids needed to wear and re-wear their play clothes until visibly dirtied. Sundays are new pajamas and new play clothes days and if I see a dirty shirt or pair of jeans throughout the day, I’ll tell that child to “pitch that shirt into the hamper at bath time tonight and get a clean one tomorrow." Please note that these children must wear their pajamas for six, count 'em six days.

"To control towel laundry, once weekly all bath towels, robes (little kids use these instead of towels), hand towels, kitchen towels, and during the summer pool towels, and sort via color and wash.
Hand towels are collected in their own marked bin in the laundry room and changed more often but bath towels, if hung to dry and air, can be used for numerous days – even I do it! It’s also environmentally friendly!" The children use bath towels and pool towels for seven days. Disgusting. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and hoping she changes her kitchen towels, at least, daily.

http://www.kateplusmy8.com/attacking-the-laundry-so-it-doesnt-attack-you/

Your paragon of domestic virtue has also stated she only washes the children's blankets/comforters "seasonally".

Moving on, you mentioned "working on children as toddlers", I find that quite telling. A proper parenting technique is to teach your children at their age level. As seen on her show, those children were tasked beyond what they could handle and frequent meltdowns occurred. When they entered school two of them were asked to leave (expelled) because the teachers could not handle their disruptive behavior.

Kate is a taskmaster and as she said "I'll ALWAYS be in charge". The way she achieves that is by strict timetables and punishment. There have been photos of her hitting and pinching her children so that also plays a part in her parenting.

I could go on and on about her public displays of cruelty and neglect but I know I can't change your perception. I will say that this will not end well for Kate and her children.

Mel said...

I don't care how much weight she has lost, she is healthy and she is a smart women.

For a school teacher, 24 of them in high school, you certainly seem to have some pretty poor writing skills. Your incoherent writing, lack of paragraphs and run-on sentences that are hard to follow reminds me very much of Kate's repetitive blogs. Are you sure you don't want to add some bolding and a million exclamation marks?

Unknown said...

Retired School Teacher,
Like others, I probably have a million things I’d like to say in response to your very long, but well thought out posts. But I will limit myself to only one, because I’m sure that many others here will cover what I don’t say, and probably better. But I did want to say this:

No one begrudges Kate a manicure or new clothes or a haircut, etc. No one. I work, and I treat myself to these things occasionally as well. However, I do not broadcast to the world that I cannot afford things for my children, like Kate has done many times. If I didn’t work, my priorities would certainly be different, and the household budget would not include the “luxuries” that I can afford now, because as I said, I work.

Now Kate, on the other hand, does not have a job. Yes, she DID have a job, and earned big money, up until a year and a half ago. Then her income stopped. She may earn a few dollars writing a blog here and there, but surely that doesn’t cover the house expenses and private school expenses, food for the family, etc. If she has to dip into her savings to cover these things, that’s all well and good—as long as she can afford it.

But don’t you see—she can’t then be complaining of how expensive gymnastic lessons are, or how expensive a movie is—she can’t constantly be talking about how hard she has it because she has so many kids and it’s so darn expensive—if it’s THAT hard, then yes, she needs to cut back on the luxuries she spends on herself, and that includes her THREE cars in the garage.

My kids do not have to chip in when our bank account gets low—that’s MY job to figure out how to replenish it. They may need to cut back on extra things they receive and places they want to go—but then so do my husband and I! I don’t say, well kids, this is *my* money and it’s for me to pamper myself with.

And if her funds run low, it’s not her kids’ responsibility to work to earn more money—that is KATE’S responsibility. Her job, as the “single” mother that she claims to be, is to be the breadwinner. And it’s JON’S responsibility to support the kids as well. Now, I don’t know the circumstances of why “she” supposedly relieved him of his child support obligation (other than to assume that they have 50/50 custody) but it’s been said that maybe the reason is so that he’d agree to the kids filming again, and if that’s the case, then that’s terrible. BUT, if that’s what Kate agreed to, then she needs to plan her budget accordingly.

And that means, cut back on the hair trips to NYC and the tanning and the French manicures, etc. Cut back. Put her children first. Has she EVER done that?

According to Kate’s journals, money is her top priority. As a mother of 8 children, yes, she’d better know where the money is going and more importantly, where it is coming from. Which means, she needs to get a JOB. Period. Her kids should not have to work to support her anymore. Can you not understand that?

AuntieAnn said...

Retired Teacher said...
The charts at home are no different than we have in classrooms at school so that our young people know what is expected of them as citizens of the classroom.
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Citizens of the classroom? Oh my. Reminds me of Pink Floyd ...All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
But I digress.


Kate doesn't have a list of chores to instill structure and security in the family. Their well-being has never been a priority to Kate. It's Kate's well-being that Kate is worried about. Don't you get it, Teach? She's lazy. The more work they do, the less she has to do. Passing chores off on other people has always been Kate's modus operandi. If they don't do as she says they will suffer her wrath; just ask anyone laying under her BBB. Her "Me Time" takes precedence over everything, including the mental and physical health of her children.

the mad hobbit said...

I just LOVE when the fans come here and post! It raises the number of responses astronomically and gives me more to read on the treadmill. :-) Their posts really keep this place bustling and I can even skip over them easily to get to the witty responses. Good job, crap stirrers! Thanks for keeping this blog so interesting!

As to Shawshank, looks to me as if all the rules do nothing but make more work for everyone involved. The idea of having to enforce them all makes my head spin.

SG said...

Tucker's Mom,
Thanks for bringing up two little children being EXPELLED (calling it anything else is just semantics).
And it was KINDERGARTEN not first grade.
Can you imagine how bad your behavior would have to be to be kicked out of kindergarten? So sad.

Tucker's Mom said...

I could go on and on about her public displays of cruelty and neglect but I know I can't change your perception. I will say that this will not end well for Kate and her children.
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Remember just before a tv interview with the kids around her, she pinched the shit out of one girl's shoulder to control her so we could see the illusion of perfectly behaved kids.

Unknown said...

Retired School Teacher said... 189
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A retired school teacher would know that paragraphs are your friend, even when spewing utter nonsense!!

SG said...

Readerlady said...
That's the problem with KK. She isn't organized or scheduled, she's regimented.
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Perfectly said!

Mel said...

The charts at home are no different than we have in classrooms at school

The difference being....the kids are at HOME. Sad that their home life is as regimented as their school life.

SG said...

Kate is a twit, I missed that comment the "retired teacher" made about any family with 2 parents, one being the disciplinarian and one being the play mate only.
Wow!
*shaking my head

Down The Shore said...

Remona said...A retired school teacher would know that paragraphs are your friend, even when spewing utter nonsense!!

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lol! I was going to say that, but I thought I'd be a bit more gentle! If you're going to ramble and change thoughts/topics from one sentence to the next it really helps to at least put those ideas into some kind of order that makes sense!

Lynn said...

To retired teacher: I'm glad you weren't mine. You sound like a drill sargent. If you were to watch some of the Jon & Kate plus 8 episodes on tv, you would notice who the caring parent was. BIG hint: it wasn't Kate. She is the one who filed for divorce and who continues to alienate their father to the children. What kind of role model is that?

Pa Dutch Mom said...

And if her funds run low, it’s not her kids’ responsibility to work to earn more money—that is KATE’S responsibility.

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A PA state legislator summed it up when he said, "No child should ever have to work to support his parents."

Millicent said...

SG said:
There's balance. What about the importance of a house run with love and understanding? There are ways to discipline your children without harshness and "No one speaks but mommy!"
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Others have echoed SG's remarks in agreement. There are many ways to raise a family, and run a household beyond the stark "kids rule the roost" versus "home run like a prison, complete with mean-spirited warden."

I was fortunate enough to be raised by parents who combined having very clear-cut rules for behavior with the good manners and respect to ask their children, rather than order them around. My dad was ex-military, and he ran a tight ship. However, he did so in partnership with my mother - and the two of them were fair and reasonable. They had 8 children. I don't want to hear excuses about how Kate has to be a mean crazy bitch just because she has 8 children. That's a load of bull.

I run my own home somewhat more lax than my parents did, but the end result is the same. I treat my child with respect, and expect the same from him. I strive for "harmony in the home" - a home that is a retreat for both of us; a place where my child can feel safe and secure and loved. I rule the roost in my home; yet I allow my son input and respect his opinions. After all, he will be an adult one day and need to know how to make wise decisions for himself. If all I do is order him around like he is a servant, how will he ever learn to lead, learn to make his own decisions, and learn how to avoid being led around by others?

Susie Cincinnati said...

Isn't there a fan on Kate's twitter who claims to be a retired teacher?

njay said...

OH MY GOODNESS. Check out her jugs in this pic. You can't lie there Kate. Nothing like having some organic milk, or rather coffeemate, on hand/CHEST at all times.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/kate-gosselin-target-38778.html

Also, someone please tell me what is wrong with her mouth in this pic? I noticed it when it was on CWS. It's like her skin is stretched across her skull. She looks like she is about to spit. Or better yet, give fish lips, like the fish do when they eat. lol If you zoom it, it is really freaky.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/wp-content/uploads/Kate_Gosselin_beat.jpg

White Organza said...

Retired Teacher...

Right now, at this very moment, I'm praying, thanking Heavens my kids were not in your class.

"Sure give the kids freedom and they take the lead in who the parent is."

Really, retired Teacher? And your suggestion to replace those kid's freedom would be? Oh, yeah, right: taking all that dangerous freedom away from them, locking them down on a compound, with "no friends running in and out of their house". Or relatives. Or even family friends, come to think of it. And there you go! Abacadabra! Instant structure, right there! And happy well-balanced kids who look absolutely devoided of all joy when they are supposedly doing what they have been missing so much for almost two years: being filmed by a crew of daddies...

Unknown said...

Susie Cincinnati said... 44
''Isn't there a fan on Kate's twitter who claims to be a retired teacher?''
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Yes, I think that the supposed retired teacher is the defective detective. THIS ''retired teacher'' writing LONG posts w/no paragraphs and still unable to totally avoid ''tells'' is the oh yes KK fan.

Mel said...

I don't know that anyone is saying that there shouldn't be chores, only that there shouldn't be ONLY chores. And apparently not so many, if one goes by Kendra's reaction.

General housekeeping = Kate's duties, not kids. Especially when they go to a 'demanding' school.

I really could not believe that there was only 1/2 allotted for homework. You'd think the twins at least would have more than that.

And they shouldn't be divvied up as icky poop chores = boys; nicer, easier chores = girls.

And nothing wrong with the chart, either. It's how it's administered.

No one's saying Kate shouldn't rule the roost. They're saying that she shouldn't rule with an iron fist.

And maybe make some time to play with the kids, instead of making time for them to massage her back or feet.

Kind of pathetic that the only time available for Kate to maybe listen to what they have to say is during dinner time. But during that time Kate chooses to 1) not eat at the table with them. Real family like. Not. 2) use that time to read/send tweets.

Amy2 said...

sg said...39
Anyone can play with their kids..."
Yeah, except for Kate. She never plays WITH her kids. Even on the fake Family Game Night episode, Kate did all the playing so that they could just finish up the game quickly.
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As Julie (Aunt Jodi's sister) said on her now defunct blog, TLC told Kate she had to play with the children. Thus, they had the playtime in the front room. Staged and scripted playing for Kate and the kids.

Sherry Baby said...

For a school teacher, 24 of them in high school, you certainly seem to have some pretty poor writing skills.

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Not only poor, but horrible, with punctuation errors, sentence fragments, and misuse of adverbs. I doubt that this person was ever a teacher. If she/he were, all I can say is that I'm glad that it wasn't in my district.

Particularly glaring is the problem with subject/verb agreement!

"... safe clean home where they know there is 3 meals a day..."

" In any family where there is 2 parents..."

"...this is 9 people in a house with charts..."

Blowing In The Wind said...

Yes, I think that the supposed retired teacher is the defective detective. THIS ''retired teacher'' writing LONG posts w/no paragraphs and still unable to totally avoid ''tells'' is the oh yes KK fan.

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There are two "oh, yes" posters. One is a Kate fan and the other is a Kate hater. The latter is the one who had every job up and down the East Coast, from the wife of a pap to an airline attendant, and at last count had some 30 user names. I haven't seen her anywhere lately.

franky said...

Susie and Remona: Bingo

Troll attack..rambling post folloed by supportive post to stir thi.gs up.

The diction i. "teacher's" post says it all..oh..and where is her rebuttal?

things that make you go hmmm???

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Sherry Baby said... 50

Particularly glaring is the problem with subject/verb agreement!

"... safe clean home where they know there is 3 meals a day..."

" In any family where there is 2 parents..."

"...this is 9 people in a house with charts..."
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I commend you on getting that far! LOL

Bosom Buddies said...

njay, 45 said...OH MY GOODNESS. Check out her jugs in this pic. You can't lie there Kate. Nothing like having some organic milk, or rather coffeemate, on hand/CHEST at all times.
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/kate-gosselin-target-38778.html

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Compare that chest with the inverted one in the black swimsuit on the trip to Key West. She denies having a boob job. Have the sheeple ever addressed this, or is this one of the many lies they just ignore?

But you know what? Her hair is a very pretty color in that photo. Too bad she went for the fried platinum Malibu Barbie look.

Sherry Baby said...

Hi guys! This momma isn't feeling so hot....and I have 1/8 already down for the count too!:( Uh oh.......

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She's going to milk this for all it's worth -- playing the sympathy game.

Tucker's Mom said...

Bosom Buddies said... 54
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Oh, Kate's had a boob job and I don't know how all those fans don't get offended by being lied to. It's so darn insulting.
Watch Andy Cohen's face when Kate denies having plastic surgery and de-aging. WTF?

Millicent said...

"I don't care how much weight she has lost, she is healthy and she is a smart women."

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For an alleged former school teacher, your spelling skills are atrocious. The correct word would be "woman," i.e., singular. "Women" denotes more than one woman. I'm surprised a former school teacher doesn't know that. Are you sure you weren't fired?

Sherry Baby said...

I commend you on getting that far! LOL

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lol, Tweet-le! I just picked out a few of them. No "teacher" who writes like that should admit to ever having been a teacher. Perhaps she was so hell-bent on structuring her classroom citizens that the teaching of writing skills just went out the window along with common sense.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Bosom Buddies said... 54

Compare that chest with the inverted one in the black swimsuit on the trip to Key West. She denies having a boob job. Have the sheeple ever addressed this, or is this one of the many lies they just ignore?

The fans' usual comments regarding the gigantic chest are to insist it's a good bra and then question why people are so interest in her boobs and say it's no one's business. You can't look at the picture and not know she's lying. She makes her fans look like bigger imbeciles than they already are by ignoring the obvious.

But you know what? Her hair is a very pretty color in that photo. Too bad she went for the fried platinum Malibu Barbie look.

Yep, and think how nice it would have looked if she'd washed it.

Zelda, New Hampshire said...

Birdology101
For anyone interested in Chickens I managed to get three pictures into photobucket. The whimsical Coop and adjoining cage are in the backround. They have heat in the winter and a big fan in summer. I LOVE MY CHICKENS! Hope this works.

http://s1352.beta.photobucket.com/user/lilachouse1/library/?#/user/lilachouse1/library/?&_suid=1363032472985038403686663028913

Blowing In The Wind said...

I hope Sue Buddy is collecting these dumb things sheeple say. Kate is sick. A die-hard fan tweets...

siggyelizabeth
@Kateplusmy8 ohh no! Is there anything we can do!?

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Yes! Send a gift card, write my blog, open my wine, feed Steve, but whatever you do, don't send Milo!

Zelda, New Hampshire said...

Tucker's Mom said... 198
Wake up and smell the paragraph breaks.

LOL

Blowing In The Wind said...

Particularly glaring is the problem with subject/verb agreement!

"... safe clean home where they know there is 3 meals a day..."

" In any family where there is 2 parents..."

"...this is 9 people in a house with charts..."

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Apparently the sheeple do have problems with this:

keomiberry
@Kateplusmy8 Hey how is the kids?????

Mel said...

OH MY GOODNESS. Check out her jugs in this pic.

They don't look that big any more, do they?
Having NO experience with that sort of thing....can you change sizes at will? You know, let some air out or something?

Bosom Buddies said...

"Having NO experience with that sort of thing....can you change sizes at will? You know, let some air out or something?"

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Or have somebody suck it out? ;)

Tucker's Mom said...

They don't look that big any more, do they?
Having NO experience with that sort of thing....can you change sizes at will? You know, let some air out or something?
****
I think you have to have them redone. You can pump them up but that happens before the permanent implants to in, otherwise, you'd have a port sticking out of your skin all the time.

franky said...

omg Blowing in the wind..

I just realised her typo "is" instead of "are" is indicative of a francoohone trying to pas as English..

please tell me she is NOT in Canada

laisse-faire Que ec, on la chasserais, nous..lol

rainbowsandunicorns said...

What was this all about? Did Kate scold Milo?

MiloandJack
@csc2104 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever! Her pt was...she was referrin 2cable ratings! Its twitter...can't explain every word! U have a nice day!

Kateplusmy8
@csc2104 @miloandjack ok but I didn't say it.The creator/producer of show did...just to be clear. It's ok...small misunderstanding! Smile:)

MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 Thanks...was just tryin 2help! :)

capecodmama said...

I applaud all the posters who managed to get through retired teacher's long, run on sentences and lack of paragraphs commentary. I was gone by the tenth sentence of the first post.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I just realised her typo "is" instead of "are" is indicative of a francoohone trying to pas as English..

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I don't think so. It's just bad grammar from someone trying to pass herself off as a teacher.

Unknown said...

capecodmama said... 69
''I applaud all the posters who managed to get through retired teacher's long, run on sentences and lack of paragraphs commentary.''
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I think I was able to get through it because I kept correcting it in my mind...and there were SO many things wrong that it became very funny! Can you imagine spending all that time typing out that jumbled mess and actually believing that you are making any sort of sense? Such is the world of a KK fan!!

Down The Shore said...

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @RumorFix Ha...THAT was a good answer. Constant rumors just mean ur #Relevant & #Interesting. Ur 2busy making memories4urkids!

This man/woman/it is not only delusional, but insane.

njay said...

Please may I throw in a few words on all the grammar issues that have been pros/cons. I have never been one who could retain all the writing, grammar and spelling. I am great on fingering out how to build and grasp how something should be put together just by watching and seeing it in my head.

It hurts me to the core to hear or read someone making fun of or expecting others use proper grammar. I myself, in the past, have experienced it personally. I think some may not realize, whether a sheeple or troll, it brings ME such hurt, embarrassment and fear to post anything. because I don't want to look or be made to feel like an idiot.

I know some ask for it, but please, if you have to get them back, remember the ones lurking who want to contribute but are afraid to.
Goodness, all the education I see on this blog scares the CRAP out of me. lol

Melissa NV said...

This man/woman/it is not only delusional, but insane.

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Yes, and she has a fixation on Kate's bedroom. Bet she'd give up her Lights Out Man to spend just one night there with Kate.

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Even when sick/resting...ur mind is NEVER idle! Ur bedrm gives birth 2exciting new recipes! Kitchen...here she comes! :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

NJ I hear you and more or less dont care that much about someone's grammar and spelling. I think the reason it's being pointed out here is because this person claims to be a teacher and has used that position to bolster her words. Pointing out such terrible errors suggests she is being dishonest. I find it hard to believe a teacher wouldn't even use paragraphs. For the record I have never noticed anything glaring in your posts or ever found them hard to read. Quite the opposite with our driveby.

Melissa NV said...

rachaelgors
@Kateplusmy8 What recipe did you come up with? I'm always looking for new ideas.

kag928
@Kateplusmy8 what is your favorite go to dinner recipe? I need some new ones!

angeld415
@Kateplusmy8 Oooh! What will U make?! I'd like to see a food image?!! :-)

lild598
@Kateplusmy8 u absulity need to write a cook book so I can still ur food and cook at 14 ;)

keeleyp29
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate hope u feel better soon :-) what r u inventing? Like 2 borrow (steal!) your ideas ;-) x

SHEEPLE! For crying out loud, use google, look on the internet. Every recipe you want is right there at your fingertips. You don't need Kate!

AuntieAnn said...

capecodmama said... 69
''I applaud all the posters who managed to get through retired teacher's long, run on sentences and lack of paragraphs commentary.''
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I'm still working on this one:


"If hard women are bitches then Kate should write a book on how to raise 8 balanced children who enjoy eating dinner together at night."

Lynda said...

Retired teacher sounds like let's throw tomatoes to me but this time she's praising kate instead of basing her. Tomatoes claimed to be a retired school teacher who also spent her career teaching in all the grades. She also but had bad grammar and sentence structure. She said that it didn't matter with the grade she taught (maybe she had retired from KG?). I always thought that she was "Oh yes she is".

Tucker's Mom said...

Here's the thing, "retired teacher". If you indeed are such, not only would you separate your missive into paragraphs, but you'd KNOW that disparaging any student's divorced father, is completely f*cked up and beyond unprofessional.

Melissa NV said...

I know some ask for it, but please, if you have to get them back, remember the ones lurking who want to contribute but are afraid to.

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I understand what you are saying, but the person who posted claimed to be a teacher. It was about credibility. No teacher who spend 24 years teaching high school, and 40 years in the education system can be that unskilled when it comes to writing a simple post on a blog.

pym said...

Njay, post away any way you like. You are not trying to portray yourself as something you're not, are you? That is the difference.

I was dying to take a blue marker to Retired Teachers posts but only because of the disparity between who she/he claimed to be and how the post was written.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sometimes my brain and finger are completely disconnected and I rarely preview my posts, so you can imagine my embarrassment when I see something posted that's the wrong word or spelling.
But I think people here get the gist and tone of what I'm saying and I think the same of your posts--great content and sharing and that's what counts.
"Retired Teacher" had to announce that he/she is such for x amount of years and if that's supposed to give her this patina of credibility, she shouldn't blow it on extremely poor writing.

silimom said...

njay - message received and acknowledged. :-) You're right - grammar, spelling and composition (writing) do not come easily to everyone for a variety of reasons - dyslexia, dysgraphia, or the simple fact that writing, and how best to teach it, is a matter of debate in educational circles today.

(The Atlantic Monthly had a great series of articles on writing and how it's taught. You can read them here http://www.theatlantic.com/debates/education/ if you're interested.)

Whatever the reason, one thing is certain - we should always treat people with respect, courtesy, and caring. Just because something is a personal pet peeve doesn't give any of us the right to act condescending towards another. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for good writing. We just need to be mindful of others.

readerlady said...

njay -- Don't worry about it. We all make grammar, spelling, punctuation and syntax errors here from time to time. Or just plain lots of typos ;-). The issue isn't that she made errors, the issue is that she's trying to pass herself off as a teacher AND that she's made a lot of basic language/writing errors that no teacher should make. Don't let the trolls get to you. Your posts are fine. You have valid points to make and you get them across very well.

PatK said...

barbgilmer
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 @MiloandJack Maybe you need to be the one to explain stuff, and not anyone else! #avoidconflict ya know?! XO

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Ooooh! I believe Barb just gave Milo a smackdown. lol

localyocul said...

rainbowsandunicorns said... 68

What was this all about? Did Kate scold Milo?

MiloandJack
@csc2104 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever! Her pt was...she was referrin 2cable ratings! Its twitter...can't explain every word! U have a nice day!

Kateplusmy8
@csc2104 @miloandjack ok but I didn't say it.The creator/producer of show did...just to be clear. It's ok...small misunderstanding! Smile:)

MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 Thanks...was just tryin 2help! :)

(((((((

No...some random person (not a hater) tweeted Kate that the show was not #1 like Kate tweeted. Milo set herself up as protector. It actually went like this:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Don't forget to watch, we will be! America’s #1 Show - #TheBible Sunday on @History 8/7c prod by my friends @MarkBurnettTV & @RealRomaDowney

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104

@Kateplusmy8 @history @markburnetttv @realromadowney #1 show? thats quite the delusion!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack
@csc2104 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever! Her pt was...she was referrin 2cable ratings! Its twitter...can't explain every word! U have a nice day!

At the same time, and Kate seems to have deleted it but I saw it earlier, Kate asked this girl for clarification to which she replied:

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104
@Kateplusmy8 @history @markburnetttv @realromadowney gladly, it may have been on top for CABLE...but not all TV, and not #1 for AMERICA.

Then the girl replied to Milo saying:

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104

@MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 lol what are you, her shield? #getalife

So Kate replied:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8

@csc2104 @MiloandJack <-she's my friend&was explaining:) Btw,ratings r far more complicated than u realize&that was fact from prod of show!

So Milo said:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack

@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 Thanks...was just tryin 2help! :)

ANd the girl saidbackt, o K8,:

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104
@Kateplusmy8 @miloandjack I am bored with this. U said "America's #1 show"..it was an overstatement end of story. #overthis #getalife

Here comes the interestinger (LOL) part. As I was copying and pasted, Barb interjected this comment:

Barbara Gilmer ‏@BarbGilmer

@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 @MiloandJack Maybe you need to be the one to explain stuff, and not anyone else! #avoidconflict ya know?! XO

Now if I recall, Barb had also recently commented after K8 thanked Milo for something that she has lots of supporters, but they work and can't hang on twitter all day. People commented here she was talking about Milo. I sense some resentment towards Milo from Barb.

Audible Click said...

Zelda, New Hampshire said... 60
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Aww... Zelda, that is the prettiest chicken coop I've ever seen.

localyocul said...

Who goes from being in bed sick to inventing a recipe? Wouldn't you just throw some chicken nuggets in the oven or order a pizza if you're that sick? Not to mention she shouldn't be handling food. But not only is she making dinner, she's inventing a new recipe. Bitch, please!

Unknown said...

njay said... 73
''Please may I throw in a few words on all the grammar issues that have been pros/cons.''......''Goodness, all the education I see on this blog scares the CRAP out of me.''
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njay, as one who commented on all the mistakes, including grammar issues, I want to assure you that the only education I have ended with high school. I know the correct place to use is or are in a sentence, but no clue what it was called until I read another poster saying it was ''subject/verb agreement!''. My comments were mostly due to the very obvious reason ''Retired Teacher'' wasn't actually a retired teacher. On the other hand, neither you nor I have ever claimed to be teachers...so whatever mistakes we make are no big deal!

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Ouch! Is Barb's comment directed at Milo's latest snafu?

barbgilmer
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 @MiloandJack Maybe you need to be the one to explain stuff, and not anyone else! #avoidconflict ya know?! XO

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I just googled "francoohone" for the heck of it.

It should be Francophone. It means "French-speaking, typically as primary language, whether referring to individuals, groups, or places. Often, the word is used as a noun to describe a natively French-speaking person."

I just love learning new things.

Down The Shore said...

Now Kate has gotten out of bed, heading for the kitchen to make something creative for dinner. If you're that sick that you need to stay in bed with kids taking care of you, wouldn't you think that she'd pick up her pink phone and call Pizza Hut or Chinese delivery? Just this one time? It's all about being a martyr and a Super Mom.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Melissa NV said... 74

Yes, and she has a fixation on Kate's bedroom. Bet she'd give up her Lights Out Man to spend just one night there with Kate.
===========================

Your comment reminded me of the old Elvis song:

One Night With You

One night with you
Is what I'm now praying for
The things that we two could plan
Would make my dreams come true

Just call my name
And I'll be right by your side
I want your sweet helping hand
My loves too strong to hide

Always lived, very quiet life
I aint never did no wrong
Now I know that life without you
Has been too lonely too long

Mel said...

Njay - good point. I can understand your sensitivity in the matter.
Everyone has typos, grammar errors, etc., from time to time. Or even all the time. Lol.

Who cares.
Unless you claim to have been a high school teacher and are basing the logic of your argument on the fact that you were a teacher for x number of years.
Not writing something coherently certainly does nothing for one's credibility as a retired teacher. At the high school level, no less.

franky said...

wow teetltle- kudos

Did you alai run across that pesky article that said regardless of spelling, 90% got the gist withoutout having gotten out at a red light to point out it was, nn fact, a RED light???

franky said...

Ps..tweetle-dee..I must butcher my lsnguage as per regular posters here..didn'tcha know..snap

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Milo's reply to Barb:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer. Wow...did not expect that. Kate has given me permission 2adress misunderstandings. I'd NEVER disrespect her. :(

If that's the case, Kate is dumber than I thought.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

franky said -- wow teetltle- kudos

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What is a teetitle?

Consistency matters, except when it doesn't said...

I mean no disrespect, Admin., but I believe you're being a wee bit inconsistent (i.e. taking positions where they best serve the point you want validated). That's the nature of being human, of course, but when you start picking at the splinter in someone else's eye....well.

You said just yesterday that Kate doesn't need to use proper grammar when talking about healthy/healthful food, even though she's (allegedly) writing a cookbook. And yet, you're all over this self-professed teacher for her writing errors. Why is that?

Further (and perhaps you're already aware of this) your own writing is rife with grammar and punctuation errors--blog entries & comments, alike.

Melissa NV said...

Your comment reminded me of the old Elvis song:

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Ewwww, Tweet! Those lyrics are perfect for Milo and her love-in with Kate.

localyocul said...

Maybe this is why the girl (young woman) was so set off about the Bible series:

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104
@RepKinzinger please vote FOR HB0110 to extend the same right to marry to my partner and I as all other families in IL, love is love..

Oh, and then there's this since I was here last:

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104

ok world, do yourself a favor and never challenge anything @Kateplusmy8 says! Her twi-hards will come after you!! #losers #getalife #lmao

SCgal said...

Typos and grammar errors are common. We're all human. The funniest mistake I ever saw was from a "hater" who said that Kate was "diluted" when I think she meant "deluded".

Down The Shore said...

From Kate's Twitter...
What is this all about? Is this true?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@PimpMyKids #Kateplusmy8 I don't want to be set apart ! Kate already did that and sent ppl to kill me and my family!

Audible Click said...

WTF are you talking about, franky?

PatK said...

Franky, what do traffic lights have to do with anything?

franky said...

njay, I read your post and Gf others to respond.

zmy post had nothing to do with you darlin'

everything to do with mocking birds

lol..I cannot win..typos not there, not me..typos theres..mocking me

I send you 3little birds by marley..peace to you

and tomorroww, look for a sparrow or 2

hugs

LB said...

It just got more interesting...after Barb told Milo to mind her own business; Milo said Kate had given her permission to address 'misunderstandings' Oy voy! Giving someone permission to do that is just asking for troubl, MORE trouble. How would Milo know which statement/inquiry is actually a misundrestanding. She can't be that intertwined (sp?) into Kate's life. Is she her personal assistant now? I cringed everytime Milo inserted herself in someone's tweets TO Kate.

K8 said...

I've had the flu, type A, for a week but me being well, me I just couldn't stay still long enough to be sick!!!! Even though my 8 wanted to lavish and serve love to me all the time, I willed myself to not be sick with a positive mindset and strong will to succeed!!!!!

In my feverish dreams, I came up with not one but EIGHT (!!!!) new recipes straight from my imagination that I know all of my 8 will give 8 thumbs up!!!!! I worked hard, despite the illness, in the kitchen from morning to night to PERFECT the recipes, since anything less would be unacceptable!!!!

On other nights, I masterminded the reorganization of my 18 chest freezers and 8 (!!!!) upright freezers in the basement!!!

More to come: in the spirit of Easter, I have decided our family should have rabbits!!!! Rabbits are easy to keep and are a tasty and nutritional food source. I've heard from my best friend Halle Berry that they are addicting!!!!! Can't wait times 8!!!!! The littles are sooooooo excited to take on a new project and learn all about the care and taking of the 88 rabbits we will soon have!!!!!

XOXOXOXO
K8

Sherry Baby said...

franky said,

Ps..tweetle-dee..I must butcher my lsnguage as per regular posters here..didn'tcha know..snap

________________
Franky -- I have to ask this because I am curious. Why is it the other night you were posting in perfect English, perfect spelling, perfect grammar and an entirely different writing style?

MJ said...

There's trouble tonight in sheeple-city. LOL

‏@BarbGilmer
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 @MiloandJack Maybe you need to be the one to explain stuff, and not anyone else! #avoidconflict ya know?! XO

@MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer. Wow...did not expect that. Kate has given me permission 2adress misunderstandings. I'd NEVER disrespect her. :(

********

Milo, Kate's self-appointed defender has been "given permission" to address misunderstandings, huh? LOL I take it that Milo has also been given permission to determine whether or not there has been a misunderstanding, when, and in what manner to address said infraction. Is Kate paying her? Or is she doing this out of the goodness of her heart - you know, to cement her relationship to the one she idolizes?

Such an important position she must hold in the sheeple hierarchy. snark I guess now we all know who is in charge of the sheeple corral, don't we? LOL

They're NUTS -- all of them!

MJ said...

Zelda, New Hampshire,
Thank you for sharing the photos of your chickens and coop. They're living the lives of Rileys with the great coop and play area you've given them. I can say with all honesty that I've never paid much attention to what chickens look like, but yours are beautiful! It's obvious they're well cared for and give you lots of enjoyment. TY again for sharing.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Consistency, you're comparing two completely different things. A "term" used so incredibly often by layman it's become commonplace, versus a "teacher's" blog post that was so rife with errors it was hard to understand. Come on, how many people say "healthy eating" every single day without a second thought? Even on T.V. shows, blogs and everywhere?

What I sad was that i wouldn't expect Kate to know something that picky just being a layman and home cook. Nor would I even expect many teachers to even know the difference, especially if you're not teaching English specifically. Why would a math teacher necessarily know that? I also said that I don't care about grammar and spelling from posters on a blog, that is unless someone were trying to give their position credibility by claiming to be a teacher when their writing doesn't seem to reflect that at all--i.e. it suggests they are lying and are really a troll. I don't see how the two are inconsistent, they are two different things. If "teacher" just came in and said hi I'm Sam and this is my opinion on things, I wouldn't care if they couldn't spell their way out of a paper bag.

As for my own mistakes I also type quickly, and don't really care or spend time on just a blog comment, am also often the victim of autocorrect or just a good ole fashioned brain fart. For example I know full well the difference between their (their hats) they're (they're buying hats) and there (those hats over there), but sometimes, just don't think and type the wrong one. It's called a TYPO. Ipads are of no help! Although calling it rife is a little ridiculous, most people here do not have posts "rife" with errors, most people here are able to communicate just fine. And those that have given their take on educational issues that I tend to give more weight because they are teachers, write like I would expect teachers to. Readerlady, for one. I don't care about typos/grammar/spelling unless it's RELEVANT.

handinhand said...

njay said... 73
....It hurts me to the core to hear or read someone making fun of or expecting others use proper grammar. I myself, in the past, have experienced it personally. I think some may not realize, whether a sheeple or troll, it brings ME such hurt, embarrassment and fear to post anything. because I don't want to look or be made to feel like an idiot.

I know some ask for it, but please, if you have to get them back, remember the ones lurking who want to contribute but are afraid to.
Goodness, all the education I see on this blog scares the CRAP out of me. lol
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Njay,I'm glad you shared this. It was a good message which, had you not posted, may have been left unsaid. Everyone brings something to this blog no matter how their sentences are constructed.

localyocul said...

MJ said... 109
There's trouble tonight in sheeple-city. LOL

‏@BarbGilmer
@Kateplusmy8 @csc2104 @MiloandJack Maybe you need to be the one to explain stuff, and not anyone else! #avoidconflict ya know?! XO

@MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer. Wow...did not expect that. Kate has given me permission 2adress misunderstandings. I'd NEVER disrespect her. :(

********

Milo, Kate's self-appointed defender has been "given permission" to address misunderstandings, huh? LOL I take it that Milo has also been given permission to determine whether or not there has been a misunderstanding, when, and in what manner to address said infraction. Is Kate paying her? Or is she doing this out of the goodness of her heart - you know, to cement her relationship to the one she idolizes?

Such an important position she must hold in the sheeple hierarchy. snark I guess now we all know who is in charge of the sheeple corral, don't we? LOL

))))))))))))))))

I missed Milo's reply. I took my dog on a run. Well, on a jog. OK, for a fast trot. She's a little thing but loves to go trotting for a mile or so. Good for Barb.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Melissa NV said... 99
Your comment reminded me of the old Elvis song:

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Ewwww, Tweet! Those lyrics are perfect for Milo and her love-in with Kate.
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Kinda sickening, isn't it?

Sherry Baby said...

There's trouble tonight in sheeple-city. LOL

____________________
Trouble with a capital T that rhymes with P and that stands for Power! Apparently Milo is claiming that she has it and that it was given to her by Kate. Geez.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Down The Shore said... 102
From Kate's Twitter...
What is this all about? Is this true?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@PimpMyKids #Kateplusmy8 I don't want to be set apart ! Kate already did that and sent ppl to kill me and my family!
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It has to do with Kate's tweet to one of those bully guys to "take down" the "haters." I think ECJ's name was actually mentioned.

Rhymes with Witch said...

njay, I am just catching but but as a fellow Jersey Girl, I wanted to share my thoughts. This also applies to anyone else who feels
similarly, of course.

Between autocorrect, typos and typing faster than you are thinking(yes, some do), we all make mistakes. Lord knows I've cringed at some
of my own comments after they were posted,
Most of the time I have been able to figure out others' intent and hope that others have done the same with my comments.

The criticisms of retired teacher were specifically aimed at retired teacher.
She claimed 40 years of experience that were belied by her very own words. (Note specific criticisms by others. I could add to the list
but won't bother).

People aren't "criticizing". They are calling BULLSHIT.

localyocul said...

Down The Shore said... 102
From Kate's Twitter...
What is this all about? Is this true?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@PimpMyKids #Kateplusmy8 I don't want to be set apart ! Kate already did that and sent ppl to kill me and my family!

)))))))))))

No, they are exaggerating. She is one of the two that that Madbritish guy "outed" supposedly for Bullyville.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ha, I like this Barb person.

She's absolutely right, Kate should be the one to explain, if she wants. It would drive me crazy someone like Milo speaking for me. Especially if they get it wrong half the time. I think the abortion explanation was just awkward since none of us have the first clue what really happened although I strongly suspect it bore no resemblance to Milo's explanation.

Consistency Is Right said...

What I sad was that i wouldn't expect Kate to know something that picky just being a layman and home cook. Nor would I even expect many teachers to even know the difference, especially if you're not teaching English specifically. Why would a math teacher necessarily know that?

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And yet, you and many of your regulars are accusing Retired Teacher of lying because of her poor spelling and grammar. Maybe she was a math teacher.

No offense to teachers, but I have read the writing of many a teacher as part of my job and many of you would be shocked at the spelling and grammar. Oh, and teachers are terrible at following directions. Ironic, but true.

franky said...

Sherry, why do you csre?..

my froggin stupid smart hates me.whaf is your excususe?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Good point maybe she's a math teacher! Even then though you have to be able to communicate and write evaluations of students.

Unknown said...

Consistency Is Right said... 115
''And yet, you and many of your regulars are accusing Retired Teacher of lying because of her poor spelling and grammar. Maybe she was a math teacher.''
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OR maybe she is not a teacher at all...retired or otherwise. Her posts were a jumbled mass of nonsense, just as all her past posts were...no matter what name she used, or what profession she claimed she was at the time.

She is a silly KK fan...oh yes she is!

Mel said...

I might take my criticism back. I forgot that my know-it-all spouse used to be a teacher, in science. Terrible spelling and grammar. Couldn't write coherently to save his soul. I was always mortified.

Apple was appel, pants = pance, and on and on. His personality is much like Kate's. A terrible teacher. I was always amazed that he didn't get fired.

FYI said...

Casey Connolly ‏@csc2104
ok world, do yourself a favor and never challenge anything @Kateplusmy8 says! Her twi-hards will come after you!! #losers #getalife #lmao
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I actually like the name she has for Kate's tweeties.

Twi-hards--perfect description.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I think the abortion explanation was just awkward since none of us have the first clue what really happened although I strongly suspect it bore no resemblance to Milo's explanation

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Didn't Milo disappear right after she made those comments about the abortion? We don't know if Kate chastised her for that, but something happened.

FYI said...

In regard to the non-fan who called Kate out for saying The Bible was America's #1 show, Kate actually admitted that those were not her words, that they came from the producers(Mark and Roma).

Kate's original tweet that started it all:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Don't forget to watch, we will be! America’s #1 Show - #TheBible Sunday on @History 8/7c prod by my friends @MarkBurnettTV & @RealRomaDowney

Today she said:

kateplusmy8
@csc2104 @miloandjack ok but I didn't say it.The creator/producer of show did...just to be clear. It's ok...small misunderstanding! Smile:)

As I pointed out previously, Kate was not the only celebrity to make that exact same tweet about it being America's #1 show, and to call Mark and Roma her "friends". Plenty of celebrities did the same thing to promote the show. As Kate pointed out, the tweet was worded by the producers, not her.

However, Milo took it to mean that Kate is "friends" with Mark and Roma, because she turned that tweet around and tweeted this yesterday:

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 We will be watching: #TheBible 2nite on @History 8/7c prod by Kate's friends @MarkBurnettTV & @RealRomaDowney Tune N & learn!


Blowing In The Wind said...

I think the abortion explanation was just awkward since none of us have the first clue what really happened although I strongly suspect it bore no resemblance to Milo's explanation

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Didn't Milo disappear right after she made those comments about the abortion? We don't know if Kate chastised her for that, but something happened.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The "number one" show was really misleading. Why not just say what it was? The number one CABLE show. That's still respectable. Now they have a credibility problem. That's not Kate's fault though I wouldn't expect anyone would fact check promotional materials given to them by reputable people like Roma Downey.

Same with teacher, why muddy the waters with that at all? Just say what you think.

Hater said...

It was not a hater who called someone 'diluted'. It was a fan. I am sure of it.

Blowing In The Wind said...

@PimpMyKids #Kateplusmy8 I don't want to be set apart ! Kate already did that and sent ppl to kill me and my family!

)))))))))))

No, they are exaggerating. She is one of the two that that Madbritish guy "outed" supposedly for Bullyville.

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Isn't that more than an exaggeration? Seems to me that a statement like this would be setting oneself up for libel. That's treading on dangerous territory.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In regard to the non-fan who called Kate out for saying The Bible was America's #1 show, Kate actually admitted that those were not her words, that they came from the producers(Mark and Roma).

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By the way whoever first called that this was a promotional tweet, good job! Although this one wasn't really Kate's fault, I have noticed that nothing is her fault.

Mel I think you could be right I know many very intelligent people who aren't good writers....although no paragraphs is pretty bad, I guess they exist.

It concerns me far more this "teacher" has an attitude that kids should be treated like robots and slaves. She even said they did all those chores at school? Not at any school I've known. Kids are supposed to be learning and socializing at school not choring. That's why we have janitors. I have no problem with kids cleaning up after themselves when they do art projects or taking care of the class hamster cage, but I don't think any kid should be spending his time with a mop, broom and 409 at SCHOOL no more than that's what he should be doing with all his time at HOME such that he only has, per Kate's own admission, a measly half an hour for play and homework. Despicable.

Somewhere In Time said...


miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 We will be watching: #TheBible 2nite on @History 8/7c prod by Kate's friends @MarkBurnettTV & @RealRomaDowney Tune N & learn!

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Milo needs to stuff a sock in her mouth and walk into the sunset by herself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Or you could just, you know, read the real Bible to "learn" about the Bible.

These people need to think independently. The Bible was terrible, even if Kate's "friends" made it.

Unknown said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 118
''njay, I am just catching but but as a fellow Jersey Girl, I wanted to share my thoughts.
People aren't "criticizing". They are calling BULLSHIT.''
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Exactly! You've found the perfect word to explain what those of us who objected to ''Retired Teacher'' were doing.

Ex Nurse said...

Retired Teacher said...
So Ex Nurse get your balance in your comments, Kate is not bad for her children, she is the one bearing all the responsibility and those kids are enjoying the charts, the responsibilities of growing up with their siblings
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I'm not sure which comment you are responding to, but, you obviously aren't familiar with my point of view on Jon. As far as his immaturity--you are preaching to the choir.

As far as "balance" goes, this is an opinion blog. But, if you want balance here it is: both of those bozos are big zeros and had no business having one, let alone eight children that they were unable support through honest hard work. I don't award bonus points for people doing what they are supposed to do, and that millions do everyday--live within their means and take care of their families.

Next time you step into this blog with your bat swinging, do your research first.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't award bonus points for people doing what they are supposed to do, and that millions do everyday--live within their means and take care of their families.

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LOL, applause! I thought it was pretty funny they went after you of all people Ex Nurse since you are the last person to want to cut Jon any slack.

Have we become such a trophy for everything society that we fall all over ourselves giving praise to someone who, gasp, provides for their children, or gasp, eats dinner with their children, or, gasp, disciplines their children?

It's pathetic. No, you don't get a trophy for being a good parent, or person. You're SUPPOSED to be a good parent and person!

A Mom said...

Kate always says "her kids, my kids pick up her kids" as if Jon had nothing to do with anything. Kate lost trust in Jon when he wanted OUT of their show (and their marriage) when Kate wanted the star treatment to go on forever. to get even she wants to be Octo-mom; no sign of a Father just herself to do whatever she wants with the kids. Hopefully Jon will NOT give Kate the Kids. Those kids need their DAD now and in the future.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Milo needs to stuff a sock in her mouth and walk into the sunset by herself.

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Exactly. How often is Milo around Mady that she knows about her quick wit?

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Teens can certainly entertain w/their humor & Mady sure has a quick wit abt her...hmm, wonder where that comes from?

FYI said...

So how long is Kate going to whine about DST. These tweets just show how incredibly stupid she and some of her tweeties are.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
RT @iAmTheWiseOne Change is the only constant. I LOVE THIS..BEGAN LEARNING I'M OK W CONSTANT CHANGE ABT 8-9YRS AGO:) EMBRACE IT 4 HAPPINESS!

xxxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 let's remind ourselves of this at 5:30 am or ( 4:30 am b4 time change). # notafanoftimechange

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@xxxxxx holy crap! We WILL be getting up at 4 stinking 30 tomorrow morning! (would have been!) aggrrhh! I HATE this[til summer]!


I have now words--well, except for-She's an idiot!

rainbowsandunicorns said...

..."she is the one bearing all the responsibility and those kids are enjoying the charts, the responsibilities of growing up with their siblings

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Did Jon pass away?

silimom said...

Just read Retired Teacher's post. Whoever said put in the paragraph breaks was correct. That was hard to follow - I had to read it twice.

Retired Teacher - I, too, am a former teacher. I, too, agree that structure is important, especially for young children. I agree that we are a society who in general has trouble with boundaries when it comes to technology and I agree that dinner time should be encouraged among families.

However, structure needs to be balanced with opportunities for children to explore their world. They need to be able to practice problem solving and social skills through play with other peers and also by themselves. They need to experience natural consequences, sometimes out of the sight and earshot of their parents, as is appropriate for their age.

That is how we raise children who are honest, fair, friendly, helpful, courteous, caring, courageous, strong, responsible for their words and actions, respectful of both themselves, other people and authority, who use resources wisely, who are confident in their ability to solve problems, and who will help make the world a better place.

Kate is a person who goes to extremes in all things. I do not hate her but I also do not agree with many of the parenting choices she has publicly made and displayed on television. I find it sad that she walked away from Celebrity Wife swap thinking only that she needs to get away from her children more. I am not saying a parent needs to be, nor should they be, tied to their children 24/7. I would not fault Kate for wanting to go out for an evening with friends or have her own hobbies, such as running. I do that, as do most mothers and both my children and I are the better for it. We are individuals in addition to being parents and we need to feed our own souls in order to be able to give effectively to others. Otherwise, we become burned out caregivers.

But the message that Kendra was trying to share and which Kate ignored was that she needs to allow her children their time to just be themselves, to be children and play. It's about balance. Kendra walked away understanding that. Kate, sadly, did not.

In the end, the only real opinions that matter regarding Kate or Jon's parenting are those of their children. Eventually, they will process the experiences of their childhood and they will draw their own conclusions as to whether it was positive or negative.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I shake my head when people say Kate is the one providing everything. Unless we've seen the bills, no one knows that. Maybe she is, good for her. Kate never said Jon doesn't give a dime to his kids and you know she would love to if she could. Jon could be contributing too. If the "relieved of child support" story is true maybe that's because Jon has agreed to pay for school, medical insurance, things of that nature. The judge has to find it's in a child's best interest and that would be one way to help him make that finding. It never occurs to the sheeple that maybe Jon is "broke" because he's been paying tuition bills and things of that nature. It's not like Jon is ever spotted these days on some fancy vacation a sponsor didn't pay for, or in some fancy car, or in anything fancier than a hoodie. I wonder where they think his money is going. It's certainly not going to his modest house. Perhaps, I don't know, it's being "blown" on his KIDS? Bottom line sure he could be a deadbeat but without seeing the bills how can anyone say that? Maybe Kate is the deadbeat here--don't deadbeats just live off everyone else's money like she does her kids?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

admin said,
These people need to think independently. The Bible was terrible, even if Kate's "friends" made it.

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Good to know that I'm not the only one who thought so. I tried to get interested...I really did. I gave it a chance. It was bad, and this comes from someone who grew up in a family of pastors. I minored in religion in college, was brought up in a very religious home, attended an evangelical church with Bible studies twice a week, and graduated from a Christian college.

The movie did nothing for me. It was poorly acted, boring and just plain flat.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

irishfan47
@Kateplusmy8 Hi, how are u feeling? Better? Sorry to hear ur not feeling:( I could always buy some chicken soup and deliver if needed ;)

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Who is this guy? I almost expect him to tweet that heaven must be missing an angel tonight.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Speaking of fancy cars whatever happened to Kate's sports car? I cannot even remember the last time we've seen her in that. I wonder if she got rid of it.

NJGal51 said...
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Rhymes with Witch said...

I might take my criticism back. I forgot that my know-it-all spouse used to be a teacher, in science. Terrible spelling and grammar.
Couldn't write coherently to save his soul. I was always mortified.
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Mel, I'll bet that he never claimed to teach K through 12 for a total of 40 years and be an expert in all things children, including
educational and domestic.

Rhymes with Witch said...

OT: To my fellow Jersey Girls: BRUCE ROCKS!
and shit stinks.

Bruuuuuce said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 147
OT: To my fellow Jersey Girls: BRUCE ROCKS!
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This California girl closing in on her 150th show agrees with you there!

franky said...

OzmG.. Sillimom,
I think zi love youse









sherry.
because it was the first time I took carr on stoopid smart phone..ackk..pmease shoot me nkw or give me permissikn to grigin throw phone against wall
wait for it..tomorrow I transfwr brains if ohobd..and if it works..I am sooooo gonna thriw empty phone against the wall

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"Quick wit" is sheeple spin for Mady just telling the TRUTH about Kate.

You know with the whole all I ever do is WORK, and her whole basically Mom's parenting style is my way or the highway take it or leave it this is the Wolf's Lair not Disneyland.

Oh that Mady she's so "witty" ain't she?!

njay said...

Remona Blue said... 135
Rhymes with Witch said... 118
''njay, I am just catching but but as a fellow Jersey Girl, I wanted to share my thoughts.
People aren't "criticizing". They are calling BULLSHIT.''
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First let me say that my name is not because I'm from Jersey. Sorry for leaving that impression. Second, I get that it is for all the bs and I shouldn't take it personal.

I'll tell you a quick story, maybe it will help understand why I said what I did. I have always been a VERY large person was insecure because of it. I thought guys would never like me. So, in my church there is very few guys to choose from. There was also a girl who was very outgoing and cute. Anytime a good looking guy would attend our church I always heard, "let's line..that girl..up with him. Then when a guy came, that you could tell he didn't have much going, it was "hey, let's hook up..me..with him. Now tell me, what should I take away from that? As I got older I became bolder and told my friends how it made me feel and they all would say, "no, we didn't mean it about you". Ah, if you say it openly about others, what is being said secretly about me?

Anyway, I wasn't trying to scold anyone, just maybe shed some light on how others in the background may perceive it and may become timid to post. All in love ladies, for real. Your a great bunch of people and I know, for the most part, those here would never intentionally want to hurt anyone.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Meant to add this in my previous comment(149). To NJGal51 and all my fellow Jersey Girls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRXhDQXhdXE

capecodmama said...

njay73...I've never had a problem reading your posts and I always find them insightful. My problem with retired teacher was that she claimed she taught for 40 years (24 in HS) and I couldn't get past the run on sentences and lack of paragraphs. That is basic grammer you learn in grade school. The only poster that I've had trouble understanding is franky and I give her a pass because English is her second language. And it's kinda funny trying to decipher what she is saying.

Rhymes with Witch147...You're so right. Shit does stink!

OT Downton Abbey fans. I meant to ask this before but what did people think of the season finale. Actually, to be honest, I'm really asking about the final scene.

FYI said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
My short lived rest/work from bed while sick is over...up 2 make dinner...Inventing yet another new recipe like I do when new ideas strike!

Are you all excited to see what recipe Kate invented? Get ready for it.....

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@xxx I made a big ole home made chicken pot pie, top/bottom crust and all. Fun to create! Oh so yummy!

Swanson's has been selling chicken pot pie with top and bottom crust for over 50 years, and Kate calls this a new invention?





Rhymes with Witch said...

This California girl closing in on her 150th show agrees with you there! 150

Bruuuuuce ,

All right thinking people are welcome, lol.

Remona B - thanks. :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

NJ thanks for that explanation. I don't think you should take it as an insult to anyone when Teacher was treated skeptically due to her writing style.

Here's the thing. I'm awful at math, always have been. My grades were odd since I would have straight A's and then one B- or a C. One of these things is not like the other here. Of course, it was in math. Anyway, if a math teacher came on here and started saying two plus two is five, I shouldn't take it as an insult to me when people call that out. Just because I'm awful at math, it doesn't mean others should be, especially a teacher! After all, shouldn't a math teacher know something so basic? She's teaching our children. You might construe it as a double standard, but I just think it's common sense. I don't expect myself to be good in math, but I certainly expect a teacher to be! Just like I don't expect you to be well versed at grammar and spelling and basic paragraph skills (and in all honest to goodness i haven't noticed anything in your posts tonight or really remember ever noticing anything before, I think you sell yourself short), but I do expect a teacher to be.

On another note, I don't expect myself to cook well (well, I think I do :-) but that's not the point), but if you are writing a cookbook, yeah, I expect your recipes to be edible!

Dmasy said...

capecodmamma, I can't answer your Downton Abbey question. I haven't gotten that far yet. I ordered all 3 seasons. I started watching yesterday. I thought maybe I would view a couple of episodes on a Sunday afternoon -- oh my, I watched straight through to the beginning of season 2. I couldn't stop. It is such a good story. Dame Maggie Smith is priceless.

I could have spoken in a British accent all day today!

Thank you to everyone here who continued to recommend this series.

I already have two friends waiting for my DVD's when I am finished.

So far, I have avoided internet spoilers. Aggiemom told me not to peek ahead!

foxy said...

Kate does still have the small sport car. She said on February 24, that she, Alexis, and of course Collin were cleaning her little car and he asked about the turbo and flaps. She said he is such a boy!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh, well maybe she could sell the sports car if she NEEDS the kids to work to support the family. Surely that could get them through a few months.

For that matter, sell all cars but one. If money is tight one car per adult in each family. ONE.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Chicken pot pie, with 2, count'em 2 crusts. Amazing. Oh, wait I forgot homemade. And she made this up, no, created this, all by herself. I am so incredibly impressed. Not.

Dare we ask if the chicken was also homemade?

Unknown said...

Kate is a twit said... 156
''Are you all excited to see what recipe Kate invented? Get ready for it.....big ole home made chicken pot pie....Swanson's has been selling chicken pot pie with top and bottom crust for over 50 years, and Kate calls this a new invention?''
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No kidding! My first thought was to hope she only has 2/8 of her children, since she only made ONE pie. One?

Rhymes with Witch said...

njay153

Jersey girl or not, my point remains the same.
Criticism was not aimed at you - I always enjoy your comments. Be yourself!

And this is one JG who would welcome you into our fold if you are interested in joining our "coven" ha, ha.

(no sheeple, I am not saying we are Wiccan or pagan or the antichirst- it was a JOKE).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The analogy works in so many ways huh?

Don't write a column about motherhood and expect your mothering choices not to be criticized.

Don't claim to be an inspiration to runners and expect your terrible diet and concerning exercise routine not to be criticized.

Don't give advice to a happily married couple when you went through a bitter divorce you are still not over and expect not to be criticized.

FYI said...

Remember when gypsi001 said she emailed Kate about something awesome and then kept asking Kate if she got her email? Kate replied that she got it, and said it wasn't for her. Yet gypsi001 doesn't seem to understand that Kate said that.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@gypsi001 lol yes I saw it. It's not for me! But thanks for thinking of me:)

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Kateplusmy8 wish u wld read back over my email. Maybe I can explain it better if u have ?? or other info? Don't u thnk wld be awesome?? :)

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Kateplusmy8 did u find and check out the link I gave? I know my email was crazy cuz I copy & pasted from my phn to my email. Not gd at that

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Underwalt @kateplusmy8 I feel I didn't explain well. This is opportunity of a lifetime. Anyone wld want this. I thnk I need 2explain better

Kate read her email, said it wasn't for her--why can't she let it be? Just because it's what SHE wants Kate to do and Kate wasn't gushing all over the idea.

She's almost as bad as Milo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Dame Maggie Smith is priceless.

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Did anyone see her interview on 60 Minutes? That was easily one of the top 10 best 60 Minutes interviews ever. That woman just wants to act, that's all, she wants to act. Basically she was like watch my own show why would I waste time watching my own show? She's never even seen Downton Abbey!

But she acts the hell out of it and apparently gives her two cents about lots of things. She reminds me of Katherine McGreggor who apparently was very vocal about how things should go on the set--but usually, very right.

She's so brilliant in DA but I think my favorite scene is when she meets a swivel chair for the first time! "I'm a good sailor!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7fF4UHEXNQ

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yikes, this is why you don't get too friendly with fans. I don't blame Kate for that one, Kate can turn down whatever she wants and owes her sheeple no explanation. To keep pestering her about it is so rude.

Maybe whatever her reasons for not liking whatever she wants her to do would hurt Gypsi's feelings. I can think of many scenarios. Not for me keeps it nice and vague. What now, Gypsi is going to force her into explaining exactly why? Why must fans force such awkwardness?

FYI said...

Admin-and this is the problem with Kate getting over friendly with her fans.

Walt ‏@Underwalt
@gypsi001 @kateplusmy8 gypsi, seriously, all snark aside, reading your tweets, I feel sorry for you. I know you mean well.

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Underwalt @kateplusmy8 of course I mean well. It's awesome and I'm confused with the response I got. Wasn't what I expected at all!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Kate read her email, said it wasn't for her--why can't she let it be? Just because it's what SHE wants Kate to do and Kate wasn't gushing all over the idea.

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Because Gypsi isn't all that bright. She doesn't get it. Maybe because she knows Kate was a cheerleader she thinks that Kate should judge one of her kid's competitions. :-)

franky said...

capecodma

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yeah. I feel sorry for her too and I do think she means well. I feel sorry that people never learned the social skills to just let someone say no graciously and not make them feel awful about it. People want to be able to get out of things quickly and easily without feeling pressured to explain. It's common courtesy. Gipsi would want the same in a similar situation. If someone says no, just accept that no means no and move on.

franky said...

dang..I knows youse kno

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Dame Maggie Smith is priceless.

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I loved her in The Prime Of Miss Jean Brodie..." Little girls! I am in the business of putting old heads on young shoulders, and all my pupils are the creme de la creme. Give me a girl at an impressionable age and she is mine for life."

Sleepless In Seattle said...

''Are you all excited to see what recipe Kate invented? Get ready for it.....big ole home made chicken pot pie....Swanson's has been selling chicken pot pie with top and bottom crust for over 50 years, and Kate calls this a new invention?''

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Why didn't she just go out and get a couple of Marie Callender's chicken pot pies?

FYI said...

The one thing Kate should have done was not respond to gypsi on twitter. She could have responded to gypsi's email instead. But no, Kate just had to put it out on twitter, rather than giving gypsi a private response via email. That would have been the courteous thing to do.

Gypsi took the time and effort to send Kate an email, Kate should have responded the same way. It doesn't take any longer to respond via an email than it does to respond on twitter. That is where Kate is severely lacking in social graces.

Unknown said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 175
''Why didn't she just go out and get a couple of Marie Callender's chicken pot pies?''
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Well.....we are talking about KK, the lying liar who lies, so maybe she did go to one of her freezers and get A Marie Callender's pot pie. (She said ''A''...not a couple.)

FYI said...

Why didn't she just go out and get a couple of Marie Callender's chicken pot pies?
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You know, maybe she did. She cooked it in one of her 2 ovens, so she considers it "homemade".

It even says on the package "Just like home-Golden flaky crust made from scratch". Isn't that Kate's definition of "homemade"? That it's made from scratch?

Sleepless In Seattle said...


Gypsi took the time and effort to send Kate an email, Kate should have responded the same way.

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True, but Kate said it wasn't for her. That should have been the end of it. You don't keep pestering her about it. If she's not interested, she's not interested. If Kate had e-mailed her, Gypsi probably would have kept it going via e-mail and then would have become upset when Kate didn't respond with her reason for not doing whatever it was that such a great opportunity.

FYI said...

I think what also may have gypsi upset it the "lol" that Kate started her response with. That was uncalled for. As gypsi just stated:

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Underwalt @kateplusmy8 maybe bcuz I professionally threw somethn out there and expected a professional answer. ??

She probably thought Kate was making fun(and she very well have been) of what she suggested and if that's true, I don't blame her for being upset.

She says now she is letting it go, and I hope she does.

Of course, you know Milo will be there tomorrow defending Kate as usual.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Gosh I hate defending Kate but wasn't her "lol" after Gypsi had been pestering and pestering and pestering her if she got her email? Sounds like it was an attempt to lighten the already AWKWARD situation.

Want to sound like an annoying crazy person? Ask someone, anyone, repeatedly, if they got your email. Look, everyone gets their email. If someone did not get your email, they are lying. :)

NJGal51 said...

Rhymes With - I'm from "down the shore" and we used to see Bruce at the Stone Pony before he was The Boss! Good memories of growing up.

Costco makes a chicken pot pie (with two crusts) that's just about big enough to feed Kate's family. It's a take and bake and it's very tasty. It never ceases to amaze me when she claims to have "invented" something like a chicken pot pie. What did she do that was new and innovative? Maybe a deconstructed chicken pot pie? maybe chicken pot pie soup? Oh wait, you can get recipes for all of those very easily on the Internet. She almost has to self publish her cookbook because what reputable publisher would touch it.

ZeldaNewHampshire said...

Oh my bahjeesusss, all wonderful gals here tonight. The best laughs, belly laughs here. Love it. You made my day, night, evening. Ho Ho Ho. What a very astute bunch. Keep on, keep on.

Sue Buddy said...

Kate is a twit said... 180
I think what also may have gypsi upset it the "lol" that Kate started her response with. That was uncalled for. As gypsi just stated:
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I agree. When I first saw that "lol" last night or whenever it was, my jaw dropped. I thought it was terribly rude to laugh like that on her Twitter for all to see.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What did Gypsi say prior to the lol? You didn't include those tweets.

Sue Buddy said...

I can't get to Kate's earlier Tweets, but Gypsi asked several times if Kate had seen the email. Finally on March 9 Kate replied:

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 9 Mar
@gypsi001 lol yes I saw it. It's not for me! But thanks for thinking of me:)

I thought the "lol" was completely unnecessary and rude.

FYI said...

On Friday, gypsi sent the email.

On Sat. gypsi tweeted Kate:

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Kateplusmy8 I hope u will be able to get to my email this wk. I know u been busy with spring brk. Let me know.. :)

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Kateplusmy8 is ur DM still down?

On Sun. gypsi tweeted Kate:

sarah ‏@gypsi001
@Kateplusmy8 I hope u will be able to get to my email this wk. I know u been busy with spring brk. Let me know.. :)

Kate replied to the last email.

So I guess Kate could have thought it was funny that gypsi was so persistent. But she still could have replied to gypsi via email, rather than on twitter.

That may also have been what gypsi felt was "unprofessional"-not responding privately to her and to tweet her answer instead.


sarah ‏@gypsi001

@Kateplusmy8 will u plse let me know if u had chance to read over my email cpl days ago? :)

ZeldaNewHampshire said...

Lynda said... 78
Retired teacher sounds like let's throw tomatoes to me

\No and No. Lynda, get your stuff in line. No and no, for sure. She may not be posting here any longer, but you are way of course.

Sue Buddy said...

I was wondering if those friends of Gypsi's who have that Swamp people or Mud Men or whatever show it is wanted Kate to appear? I might have watched that.

FYI said...

At the time that Kate replied to gypsi she was also busily flirting with her twitter "beaus" and moaning about DST. She probably didn't like someone going off topic.

FYI said...

To correct my previous post, the dates should be Thurs. Mar.7, Fri. Mar. 8, and Sat. Mar.9. I was look at twitter.com, and where it showed the date, it had them a day later. I should have expanded the tweets to get the correct dates.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I thought the "lol" was completely unnecessary and rude.

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Of course it's rude, but that's Kate. She's done that often. It's kind of like she's smirking. Nothing surprises me anymore. She doesn't think before she tweets and that's her way of being cute.

I think it's been often said that the fans who support Kate have been led to believe that because they stick with her through thick and thin they deserve something from her. They believe that they are special to her and have a bond with her, You know, the best friends thing. Then when she ignores them, or blows them off, they feel offended and hurt.

That's the way Kate is, and in time, they'll learn that they are NOTHING to her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I picture her lol as a nervous laugh please don't kill me in my sleep you freaky sheeple kind of lol.

In that case, lol!

Sue Buddy said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 188

Yes, it looked like Kate was saying, lol, ME be on Swamp People? Not for me. She did say thank you, but after laughing one kind of forgets that when a sincere offer has been made.

ZeldaNewHampshire said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 190

Right on, it's how the bitch rolls.

ZeldaNewHampshire said...


Hah! Bigger laugh out loud.
BIG

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 191
I picture her lol as a nervous laugh please don't kill me in my sleep you freaky sheeple kind of lol.

In that case, lol!

fidosmommy said...

I wonder if Kate followed her invention of chicken pot pie with her invention of Flag cake.

After seeing a picture of her sausaage stew, I have to ask what goes into her chicken pot pie?
I can envision the vegetables being broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, green pepperss. Maybe some pea pods since she likes them so well. And eggs!

ZeldaNewHampshire said...

SG said... 25
Jon didn't want to get married or have children? Possibly, but he did. And when he did he stepped up to the plate.

My opionion only, he did not just step up to the plate, he STEPPED on a landmine. That was the end of him as a young man. Over and done. That lizard ate him alive.











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fidosmommy said...

Zelda, I agree. Jon worked before he went to work, he worked after he got home from work. He did what a good parent does. I did not hear him groaning or moaning about how much work it was to bathe, dress and entertain his children.
I really don't remember him saying, I have 8 sets of shoes to tie. EIGHT! Nobody in the world has tied as many shoes and I have! Woe is me, I have 8 children and a wife who's
a real piece of work. Kate, on the other hand, called Jon her 9th child. When he was playing with his children no less. And she did not say it with a laugh or a grin, either. She was saying it because he was not doing what she wanted him to be doing the way she wanted him to be doing it.

What I did see (or heard about) was Jon losing a job to searching for freebies. I can only guess that was Kate's demand. Since Jon was supposed to work when he got home, there was no time for checking out the freebies there. He had shampooing to do, by golly, and had to ask Kate over and over how he could help her. The freebie hunting could be done at the office, right Jon? That would help Kate oh so much.

Also, what I did see was a man so beaten down, not because of being a father, but because of being a disrespected husband. Kate seemed to believe husbands were there to make wives feel like divas. And take care of those annoying children.

Jon got out of the filming a little too late for my tastes, but he got out, and I believe he hoped that would put a stop to all of it. He wanted his children out from under that burden of working several days a week. Jon went a little too crazy right after his departure from Kate for my tastes, but eventually he saw the folly of all that and he quit doing it.

I think Jon got the wrong end of that stick that he wanted Kate to remove. I think she's been doing a smear job on him since early in their marriage.

Jon would have to do something NOW to get me to change my positive tune about him.

Dmasy said...

OT - Downton Abbey. I haven't seen the final episode of the second season. It is a Christmas special. Amazon promises to deliver Season 3 this afternoon.

I have had a binge of British.

Delicious TV.

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