With so many of us snowed in or on lockdown, we thought it would be a great time to highlight some absorbing documentaries to keep you warm!
The educational system documentary. Despite all the bad press about schools today, many filmmakers have been steadfastly creating documentaries that highlight some of the most compelling stories out of our schools and from our remarkable teachers and kids. Some of these films may shock you, others move you to tears. All of them will give you hope.
Here are our top five favorites:
5. The Great Cafeteria Takeover.
A group of teens and pre-teens post-Katrina dismayed at the appalling quality of cafeteria food sets out to actually change it. (HBO.)
4. Spellbound
Follow super-spellers as they spend every waking moment preparing obsessively for the 1999 National Spelling Bee. Oddly as tense as any thriller, you will agonize over every letter right along with them. (Netflix, Amazon.)
3. American Teacher
Profiling four extraordinary teachers as they give everything of themselves for very little pay or accolades to educate our kids. (streaming Netflix, Amazon.)
2. Pressure Cooker
1. To Be and to Have
Perhaps the opposite of Wilma Stephenson and her tough love, soft spoken French teacher Georges Lopez is gentle, patient and kind. He guides his one-room schoolhouse of all ages through lessons on penmanship, omelet flipping, and working together in harmony. In one particularly moving scene, he brings a stoic school bully to silent tears as he talks to him calmly about how his words and actions are hurting others. We find out some time later, the boy's father is in a serious battle with cancer. But, that's no excuse for Lopez. "Sickness is a part of life," Lopez tells him as they chat together under a tree. His simple words somehow seem to bring the child comfort.
In nearly every conversation he has with his students, he asks for their thoughts and opinions on the matter, and the children show him tremendous respect in return. When he asks his younger students what they want to be when they grow up, not surprisingly, many of them say teachers. Aptly dubbed by some viewers as a "Hymn to Teaching," this gradual unfolding of a year in the life of one very special educator and his class is an absolute work of art. (The only sad part about the film, is that due to the unexpected massive success of the film, Lopez said he and his students felt exploited, and that fame traumatized some of his students.) (Netflix, Amazon.)
748 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 748 Newer› Newest»Whenever I think of Milo, I get the picture of Granny from the 'Beverly Hillbillies' in my mind!
Prairie you just made me snort my root beer and it was not pretty. Good to see you.
Gail and time to re-evaluate (I think you are the same person),
I really think you need to take a big deep breath. Your fooling yourself if you think that teachers, lawyers, doctors, nurses, police officers and so on don't have private conversations regarding their jobs and the people they come in contact with.
Jasper, I agree with you 100 %...on both of your statements.
Prairie, thanks for the TMI. LOL
Talk about shooting the messenger! Hook em and the fellow teaxhers aren't "bullying" the difficult parents, not at all. They are discussing them, as all professions do BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
They names are mild, not mean and they aren't harrassing these parents daily and damaging their self-esteem. Teachers talking to other teachers, and actually laughing, is NOT bullying.
Gay kids (or sometiles just percieved gay) have killed thmselves. 9 year olds! THAT is bullying.
A girl was bullied on her FB page by a grown adult woman pretending to be a HS boy. This girl killed herself for all the mean things this "boy," who she thought was her friend, turned on her.
The definition of bully is being used too liberally. Kate wasn't bullied. Parents aren't being bullied by teachers and saying "you're stupid" once isn't bullying.
My niece is overwight. Every friday during PE she had to do a mile run and she was always last. She literally had to run through a gauntlet of older boys (only on Friday) and they would comment on her body, her looks, her hair, her percieved sexuality and her lack of friends.
This went on for months before she finally told her mother. She didn't want to stress-out her mother, who was dealing with an aging sick parent and other difficult life stresses.
This lovely teenager has zero self-esteem and was the "new kid" at school. The boys were "talked to" buth the Friday schedule went on as usual. My sister finally went straight to the principal and action was done. Why? Because he was afraid of a lawsuit. He didn't seem to care about the child, just his school's reputation.
She can't homeschool. My neice now runs a different route on Friday but STILL goes through the gauntlet at times. She's extremely intelligent but is failing most her classes. I worry about her daily.
If the teachers say, "xxx's mom always calls the school because her daughter is teased and I think that's annoying," I DON'T GIVE a SHIT. At least they are talking about it. At least it is documented. Let them talk.
If they discover that "certain boy's" mom thinks he's an angel and can do no wrong, maybe that mother deserves a HARMLESS nickname.
I'm so sick of child abuse and other issues being swept under the rug because it makes others uncomfortable. My niece is in councelling. The bullies are on the football team. My niece hids most of this while those boys are poraised for making touchdowns.
I'm so angry and I cry as I type this.
Please stop using the word BULLY for anything and everything you don't agree with. Only when looking in they eyes of a sad 15 year old who says, "it doesn't matter, I am fat and I DON'T have friends, they are right," can you see the true pain bullies cause.
Gail - In my experience as a teacher I can say that I have discussed parents with other teachers although we've never given them specific labels. It allows us to process our feelings so that when we do need to interact with that person we can do so focusing on the situation at hand and what needs to be accomplished rather than letting our emotions get the better of us. It's called venting and we all do it. How many times have you complained to someone else about a co-worker or friend or acquaintance or spouse.
I would refrain from condemning the whole public school system based on one poster's comments on this blog. That is one teacher's opinion and experiences. That doesn't invalidate them it just means it's one experience
Thought your readers might be interested in this story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2094897/15-Kids-Counting-Single-mother-14-Joanne-Watson-slams-critics-brand-scrounger.html#axzz2KadV5pHa
I think the Gosselin kids might be going through a lot more in school than people think.
WOW! The Pope resigned. The last Pope to resign was almost 600 years ago. Maybe pigs will fly and Kate will get another TV show....
Kate mentions she does pack lunch the night before, hmm..also she took a rest! Wants to go back to bed today...same old stuff- her exhaustion vs good deeds as a 'relentless' mom
Here there is a snow day- we have 10 foot snowbanks after the blizzard and ice and snow today. Hard to get around. :(Also no street parking.
KW said... 8
Thought your readers might be interested in this story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2094897/15-Kids-Counting-Single-mother-14-Joanne-Watson-slams-critics-brand-scrounger.html#axzz2KadV5pHa
I think the Gosselin kids might be going through a lot more in school than people think.
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Thanks for sharing this. The similarities to the Gosselins are glaring. This paragraph in particular stuck out. It's from a 15 year old girl:
'When we're in the papers, everyone talks about it at school the next day,' she says. 'Last time I was in the paper everyone was discussing it.
ccpuff said... 6
Very well said. You are exactly right. The word "bully" is bandied about so much these days that it has lost its real meaning. I tried to get that point across in my article. It greatly diminishes the real problem for children who are relentlessly tormented when the word "bully" becomes the catch-all word for gossiping, teasing, even harassing.
Hi everyone. Just got power back this morning after 48 hours thanks to the blizzard of 2013. The temperature in our house plummeted to 40 degrees. Fun times. However, we've been holed up at our neighbors who has a gas fireplace and gas stove. So we were able to stay warm and cook.
So I hop on the computer and my Bing homepage has Kate Gosselin was bullied. Are you freaking kidding me. So I read the articles on Us and ROL and she is being hammered in the comments. They all say she was the bully and she's looking for some attention. Some people in the comments listed specific incidents of her from the show which I'd completely forgotten about. CJWhodunit did comment in support of her. And then CJ got slammed. Rather comical.
Hope everyone is well. Sue Buddy, great article as usual.
"Pushers get pushed" Storm of the Century. It's quite fitting for Khatie G! Oh and I love Steve King - absolutely cannot help it!
NJGal51 Oh no you didn't!!! If she gets a new show, it's off to the dunking stool with you!!! ;)
PrairieMary, please do not insult the sainted memory of Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies! Granny has more class in her little finger than all of the Kreider Krew!
I think of Milo as more like the Mr Haney character from Green Acres played by Pat Buttram. He sold Oliver the run down farm in the first place and always had ideas of things Oliver had to buy from him, or things Oliver should do on the farm.
This being bullied is bull*hit. Imagine if Naomi Campbell, Martha Stewart, Rachel Ray, Ricky.Gervais came out with this? Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen as they say.
ccpuff
"hugs"..please pass this hug on to your neice, and remind her that highschol only ladts 5 years.life gets better
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At least this woman has enough introspection to actually REGRET her dumb-a$$ decision to put her kids in the public eye:
But Joanne, who once enjoyed the fame and notoriety her large family brought her, now insists she regrets their infamy.
'I don't want anyone coming to our house looking for a dirty story,' says Joanne. I wish they would just leave us alone.'
Talk about shooting the messenger! Hook em and the fellow teaxhers aren't "bullying" the difficult parents, not at all. They are discussing them, as all professions do BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
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Actually, the terms used by Hook em was "making fun," not discussing. There's a difference, which is what caused the ensuing comments.
Just read the article on Joanne Watson. First off, the kids are beautiful and it's unfortunate that they get tormented in school because of their family. But when the parents made the decision to put their kids in the public eye, the kids ended up with the bullseye on their backs. Joanne claims she regrets the infamy of her family, but it seems to me she only regrets it now because of the negative attention. Her 16 year old daughter just had a baby and Joanne is now a grandmother for the 4th time. Her oldest child is only 22. How old were the other kids when the had grandchild # 1,2 or 3. The house may be tidy, the school uniforms may be pressed, lunches prepared and the kids spotless, but something was missed somewhere with the kids if this woman is already a grandmother for the 4th time. With that many kids, there is never enough love, one on one time or emotional support to go around. Also, last year, Joanne became pregnant and miscarried baby #15 by a man she had only dated for three weeks. She's not shy about the fact that she wants more children. WTF! If you have to be on state assistance to care for the brood you have, what the hell are you doing trying to have another one. That's what it seems like people are angry about and I don't blame them. But take it out on the mother and not the kids. It's not the kids fault. I honestly think the mother needs counseling to find out why she has this need to keep having kids.
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Many thanks to whomever recommended "Doc Martin." I started watching the series on Netflix during the blizzard and can't stop! It's fantastic. Any other suggestions as I keep a running list.
What the....why on earth did the pope resign?
There's a commenter over on Kate's latest blog post on The Stir who is just hysterical. I wonder if it's Robert Hoffman. He/She seems to have the same sense of sarcasm.
Jane said... 22
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Many thanks to whomever recommended "Doc Martin." I started watching the series on Netflix during the blizzard and can't stop! It's fantastic. Any other suggestions as I keep a running list.
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I remember talking to you about it. So glad you like it. I absolutely love it. It's the best thing on TV IMO. I love all the goofy characters.
Jane: I watch Doc Martin! I am still catching up on NetFlix too. isn't it a riot? Great character acting and beautiful scenery. Love it!
I think it is funny, and ironic, that much of the conversation about Ms Kreider s bog and articles focus on the comments section.
Fyi, I think Blown in the Wind asked way back, one day I was doing a post and ”this blog” got auto corrected to ”tits bog”. Which someone thought was funny, and it does seem appropriate for Ms Kreider efforts. She referred to her ”bogging” in a tweet or something. And if you leave a letter out of twits you get tits bog. So the twits blog becomes the tits bog.
It's mildly amusing, which we need, since Ms Kreider is so boring.
Kelly1464: Everybody gossips. If you haven't talked about someone behind their back and laughed about them I'll nominate you for sainthood.
A good friend is a retired teacher and she had stories about other teachers and parents all the time. Never names, but she'd tell me what she had to deal with every day. Like the kindergartner who was in her SIXTH school because her parents thought no school could handle their precious darling (who according to my friend was one of the worst brats in class). My friend was at a private school so the parents were tactfully told that the school didn't have the facilities to provide for their child's needs and perhaps another school might be better.
Another one was the first day of school. She tought PE in a grade school. She said it never failed. A huge line of kindergarteners with shoes with laces who didn't know how to tie their shoes so she had to do it, even though she asked parents to either (a) make sure the kids knew how to tie their shoes or (b) buy shoes with velcro straps.
And I knew better to get her started on the topic of lazy teachers . . . .
So, hook 'em horns: I get it!!! And feel your pain. Between parents who don't give a damn and parents who think the world revolves around their child, you can't do anything right.
I saw this tweet on Kate's timeline.
zackteperman
Check out our client @bullyville being featured with @Kateplusmy8 in @usweekly - http://t.co/pQLvGc9f
I love how he tweets a link to the US weekly article about Kate that has over 40 comments, which are all negative. He apparently owns/works for a PR firm and Bullyville is his client.
Wouldn't you think a PR person would actually read the reaction to the article, before tweeting about it?
@ Mel #24- what was the comment on Khate's newest blog that was hysterical? I refuse to give "her" bog any hits.
My friend was at a private school so the parents were tactfully told that the school didn't have the facilities to provide for their child's needs and perhaps another school might be better.
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I've always thought that the G kids' teachers must have bent over backwards to avoid separating the 2 from the school. They MUST have known this would get out in the media and I'm sure they did everything to work with Jon and Kate to get them back on track. How frustrating for the staff!
Dealing with troubled kids who have a heavy filming and travel schedule with little to no down time must have added layers of complexity.
Kate must have known and seen the inevitable media circus, but you know, hey, it's talking points for appearances and magazine articles.
Sigh.
Very interested in Doc Martin. I think DH and I will check out some episodes tonight!
Hmmmm, I feel that people are not quite realizing that one can be professional yet when discussing relevant topics in the presence of colleagues, also have a sense of humor about aspects of the job that are extra demanding. In teachers' cases, this is often a parent who is difficult to deal with, and/or behaves inappropriately.
I work in a law firm. There sometimes is a "gallows" or black humor that occurs. We are not mocking anyone in particular, but because we deal occasionally with serious subjects, we turn to black humor to lighten the moment.
I have worked in all types of situations - law offices, bookstores, construction firms, as a waitress. In each and every instance, colleagues will often blow off steam or share stories of what they've had to deal with during the day. Often it involves dealing with a member of the public. The public are often fairly rude when dealing with store clerks, secretaries, teachers, and anyone else they think they can be rude to. If in turn they become fodder for water cooler talk, so be it.
It's human nature --- if in a workplace, there is a person (customer, parent, client) who makes your life more difficult or miserable, you are gonna talk about that with your co-workers. I blow off steam when I've had to deal with a particularly unpleasant attorney or attorney's assistant - and sometimes my co-worker will say, "oh yeah, I know that guy. He's always an ass."
This is why I always try to behave professionally and courteously when I'm the customer, client, patient, whatever. I know what goes on behind closed doors, and I would prefer not to be one of the "problems" that gets discussed :)
I can only imagine the conversations that abound whenever Kate visits a place of business.
Kelly1464: Everybody gossips. If you haven't talked about someone behind their back and laughed about them I'll nominate you for sainthood.
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It has nothing to do with sainthood or being perfect. We're not talking about garden variety gossiping. There is a big difference. Teachers who make fun of parents are not setting a very good example. Kids are taught that it's wrong to make fun of other kids or call them names, but then it's perfectly okay for teachers to do the same thing about these kids' parents. It's fine for adults, but wrong for kids. What kind of mixed message is that giving to the kids?
Do you want to leave a meeting with a teacher knowing that you're up next to be made fun of by other teachers, not knowing what they will be saying about you? If teachers gossip and make fun of parents, chances are that it's not only one parent. It could be anyone.
Am I the only one who thinks that teachers, as professionals, should be above all of that?
I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said... 30
''@ Mel #24- what was the comment on Khate's newest blog that was hysterical? I refuse to give "her" bog any hits.''
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I was just coming here to ask for a link to the comments. There are so many places that are discussing her 'bog' that I can't seem to find the specific one you are talking about!
Kelly1464 said... 34
''......... Kids are taught that it's wrong to make fun of other kids or call them names, but then it's perfectly okay for teachers to do the same thing about these kids' parents. It's fine for adults, but wrong for kids. What kind of mixed message is that giving to the kids?''
''.....Am I the only one who thinks that teachers, as professionals, should be above all of that?''
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Wait. Where did anyone say that the teachers talk to the kids about the parents? The teachers are talking behind closed doors w/fellow teachers. The kids have no idea, so how on earth is any sort of ''mixed message'' given to the kids?
Maybe you are the only one that thinks teachers should be above that....but I agree with the others who have said that ALL ''professionals'' in whatever field DO talk with each other about the people they deal with every day. In my opinion, that is a safe place to vent about the day, and can't force myself to believe it is horrible!!
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Talk about perfect timing. The Globe & Mail newspaper printed this essay a couple of weeks ago, just before 7 women friends & I were about to leave for a three night trip to Las Vegas.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/facts-and-arguments/when-you-hit-your-50s-girls-just-wanna-have/article7957597/
Life used to be so simple.....
Wait. Where did anyone say that the teachers talk to the kids about the parents? The teachers are talking behind closed doors w/fellow teachers. The kids have no idea, so how on earth is any sort of ''mixed message'' given to the kids?
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Oh, so it's okay if it's done behind closed doors...as long as you don't get found out that you are making fun of parents? Got it. You tell the kids that it's wrong to make fun of other kids at school, but it's fine for the teachers to do it about the parents. Parents find out that they are being gossiped about, they may talk about it to their spouses, kids may overhear. Kids aren't immune from knowing what's going on at school.
I guess I'm just of the opinion that teachers, as professionals, should be above all of that. I guess I'm wrong.
Kelly1464 said... 38
Hey Kelly, teachers are also human!
Kelly1464 said... 38
''....Oh, so it's okay if it's done behind closed doors...as long as you don't get found out that you are making fun of parents? Got it.''
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Good grief!! All I can say to you is that if I were so worried about what teachers are saying behind closed doors about the parents, I would make damned sure that when MY name was brought up, the teachers would have only good things to say about me, my child and my parent/teacher relationship.
aeduko said... 28: Kelly1464: Everybody gossips. If you haven't talked about someone behind their back and laughed about them I'll nominate you for sainthood.
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That's a rather snarky comment. The poster (Kelly) was just expressing an opinion, which I happen to agree with. I thought this blog was above that kind of thing. I'm disappointed to see it here.
Millicent, I really like your post, it describes things well.
Yes, people can be very professional and also engage in venting in a confidential manner.
OT, I'm in Nashville (far away from my Quebec, Canada home). The weather is beautiful, 16C (60F), at home it's after the snowstorm of 30 inches and today I talked to my daughter and they are having freezing rain. I'm loving every thing I see here. The show at the Grand Ole Opry Saturday was great, I saw one of my favourite singers Lorrie Morgan. The Gaylord Opryland Hotel is humungous and absolutely gorgeous. People find it funny here when I speak French with my boyfriend. They are very friendly and try to use a few French words. Sometimes I have trouble understanding people's various accents and different expressions. All in all, I'm loving my vacation and want you all to know how much I'm enjoying my visit to the US. Wednesday I'll be leaving Nashville to go to Memphis. I can't wait to see Graceland.
Sorry about my rambling, but right now I couldn't care less about Kate.
Tucker's Mom said... 32
Very interested in Doc Martin. I think DH and I will check out some episodes tonight!
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Tuckers Mom - I recommend starting with season 1 - please let us know if you like it!
Tweet-le - thank you! I'm just into season 2 and am ready to book a trip to Cornwall LOL. I had no idea that part of England was so spectacular.
Formerly Duped - yes, the characters...hilarious in such a British kind of way. Love the dry humor and all the small mysteries.
Here's an example:
Why don't you have a convention on bulling and you can be the guest speaker- ahhhh never mind - it will probably be cancelled :(
The one above it is pretty funny too.
...kate -people who are bullied are people whom are NOT bullies and honey -- that isn't you! There are 8 small children and a couple of dogs who want to see you in the alley. You got some splanin to do. ...
It probably counts as a hit if you go there, though.
thestir.cafemom.com/big_kid/150775/gargantuan_gosselin_grocery_grab_photo?next=221
aeduko said... 28
I love your voice of reason ( that you have in all your posts)!
Tweet-le - thank you! I'm just into season 2 and am ready to book a trip to Cornwall LOL. I had no idea that part of England was so spectacular.
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No kidding. Me too! Wouldn't it be a hoot if the people in "Doc Martin" actually lived there? The village is actually called Port Isaac. It's so lovely:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Isaac
Here's Doc's home in the center of the picture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Port_Isaac_3.jpg
My PBS station just finished Season 5 I believe, and is now showing them starting from the beginning which I missed. There's at least one more season being filmed now.
Really enjoyed Doc Martin. Another one is "As Time Goes By" with
Judy Dench.
"Whenever I think of Milo, I get the picture of Granny from the 'Beverly Hillbillies' in my mind!"
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I'm home sick with the dreaded bronchitis/earache, and I just watched a Lifetime move, Love Thy Neighbor (2006). The neighbor, Janis, played by Shannon Lawson, is exactly how I picture Milo. She's the total Gladys Kravitz, nosy, inserting herself into the life of new neighbors, making a real pest of herself, and eventually turns psychotic and dangerous when ignored.
I think Beverly Hillbillies Granny is a bit too old to be Milo, but who knows? :)
Good grief!! All I can say to you is that if I were so worried about what teachers are saying behind closed doors about the parents,
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I'm not worried at all about what they might say about me. Sticks and stones, you know. Perhaps I didn't get my point across as clearly as I should. I apologize. My concern is that teachers, although human, are trying their best to make sure that kids know that tormenting other kids, or calling them names, or making fun of them is wrong, but then some of the teachers turn around and make fun of parents. How can they instill the message in kids that we don't tease or make fun of others while at the same time they do it themselves, only on a adult level?
Blowing In The Wind said... 49
"Whenever I think of Milo, I get the picture of Granny from the 'Beverly Hillbillies' in my mind!"
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I'm home sick with the dreaded bronchitis/earache
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Feel better! That's a crappy combo, so I hope it clears soon.
Kelly, you sound very sensitive and I want to tell you that people have talked about me behind my back; perhaps observations, perhaps gossip, perhaps mean stuff. I have no control over it. I bet some have been professionals. Competent, caring and highly regarded professionals.
It's happened before and will happen again.
C'est la vie.
The VP of the USA (yes, Joe Biden: The Gift That Keeps On Giving) dropped the F bomb with a live and very sensitive mike on. He was speaking to the President, btw.
Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton called not yet President Obama the N word when they were ending an interview and didn't realize the mike was still live.
People do these things when they think no one is listening or looking.
You can't be "on" and perfect and have the patience of Job all the time.
I know that about people and I hope they know that about me.
OT-- Bonus Downton Abbey last night with a 2-hour episode.
Oh for pity's sake, of course people who make spectacles of themselves get reputations wherever they go -- schools, stores, community facilities etc. People who have to deal with them many times have to talk to each other about them. If one finds a better way to deal with them they share it with the others, or they need to give a heads up to the rest of the workers/staff/crew who will have to handle frazzling situations with them. Doing it all with a sense of humour is by far the best way to keep sane, I believe. I won't go into detail about the characters I've had to deal with because most of you probably have the similar stories to tell. The main point is that most people are fine, sensible, and reasonable to deal with. No stories there. I don't know any profession where they never, never, ever make light of some bizarre occurance at work. It is NOT bullying or being unprofessional. Hook em, I'd work with you any time.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 47
My PBS station just finished Season 5 I believe, and is now showing them starting from the beginning which I missed. There's at least one more season being filmed now.
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There are 5 seasons? Woohoo!!
Midway through season 1, I started Googling Cornwall and Bodwin and all the towns. Remarkable history. And I find myself thinking in "British" - yeah, I need to take a break from the Doc!
Yeah, I knew after I pressed 'publish', that using granny as an example was kind of wrong, because granny was not a dumb woman, and had more class than milo and kate could ever dream of having! But it is stuck in my brain, will be hard to switch over to Gladys.
I watched Honey Boo Boo last night, and say what you want, that woman has a kind and loving heart, she gives to those who are needy, brings joy to little children, in so many ways, she is just the reverse of kate. And June could bitch and complain that she wants a new, fancy house, but she doesn't. There may be lots of behaviours that people don't like seeing, or hearing from the family members, but there sure is lots of love between them. I would pick having coffee with June, before I would with kate, anyday. I think June walks the talk, kate, she just whines.
twin_mommy0312
@Kateplusmy8 I'm also a single mom without extended family...and was wondering...who do you let babysit when you have to run out like that?
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Why do these naive sheeple think that Kate is a poor single mom who has nobody in the world to help her?. She HAS an extended family (and she alienated all of them), but she has babysitters and nannies. She can do her "running around" when the kids are in school or with Jon.
Bluebird, your trip sounds great! I have always wanted to go to Nashville and Memphis. I want to hear more details when you have time to post.
Ok, yeah, teachers may talk in the break room about parents....but who actually admits to that AND posts it on a public blog like it's funny??
I sure wouldn't.
Bluebird, I'm so glad to hear that your vacation is going so well (+ that you escaped the big snow) and that you're having a great time. Have fun and share more of your experiences with us when you have time.
Jane said...
And I find myself thinking in "British" - yeah, I need to take a break from the Doc!
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I find myself thinking about Doc. I think I'm developing a crush. LOL
People need to vent. Let them vent.
Tucker's Mom said... 51
OT-- Bonus Downton Abbey last night with a 2-hour episode.
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What??? It was on for two hours last night? I thought after the first hour it was over and I went to bed. :( :(
Sure are a lot of new names showing up to keep the teacher subject going.
Thanks Mel!
I don't know if Kate reads all of Milo's tweets, but I sure hope she read Milo's racist tweet about Asians, and Milo's follow-up tweet where she laughs when another fan makes a similar racist remark.
She's really a piece of work, isn't she? I wonder if she does this for attention, knowing that the non-fans will jump on her bizarre behavior, and when they do, she seems to get more delusional and strange. It's almost like she's pushing the gushing/sobbering envelope to see how far she can go (just for attention)...
Is Doc Martin a comedy? Netflix streaming is kind of making it seem that way but maybe it's not the typical sitcom format I'm thinking of that I can't get into. I ask because typically I just never can get into comedies. I usually only watch dramas.
It sounds like most of us use Netflix but I don't know if anyone uses Redbox too but I wanted to let you know if you sign up for Red Box text messages they will text you codes for free movies every week. There is no catch other than it's just a one night rental. I assume they make their money on people who don't bother to return them but since we live so close it's not an issue. In a time when many people are looking to make cuts somewhere, this is a way to still have a nice cozy movie night with the family with a brand new release without paying a cent.
Please stop using the word BULLY for anything and everything you don't agree with. Only when looking in they eyes of a sad 15 year old who says, "it doesn't matter, I am fat and I DON'T have friends, they are right," can you see the true pain bullies cause=========================================
I hope she is getting counseling for her obesity. Seems like if parent's had provided proper nutrition, this could have been avoided. Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.
And yes, professionals DO talk about the outrageous people we come across. I work in the medical field and you can bet the break room is a big venting and joking ground for the crap and crazy we have to deal with. However, because we ARE professionals, your care will not be compromised.
Teacher's aren't God. I can surely imagine they have plenty to talk about while still being able to teach competentantly and care about their students.
Ll
I want to go to Tennessee too I don't think I've ever even driven through. Count me in wanting to hear more Bluebird. Actually, there are few places I don't want to go. There is just so much to take in and photograph. Even locally there is still so much out there untapped, and so much of it is free. One of my new year's resolutions was to go check out something locally on the weekends I've never seen before. Last month was the Japanese American museum and Little Tokyo, and it was awesome. If you are in LA, DEF make time for it.
Did I hear Milo was insulting Asians? F-that.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 65
Is Doc Martin a comedy? Netflix streaming is kind of making it seem that way but maybe it's not the typical sitcom format I'm thinking of that I can't get into. I ask because typically I just never can get into comedies. I usually only watch dramas.
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Yes, it's basically a comedy but not like the sitcoms produced here. I can't stand usual sitcoms. It's totally unique. They're just silly and NOT funny. It's difficult to describe. All the characters are interesting, quirky (to say the least) and funny. I find myself completely riveted and hate when it ends each week.
You should give it a try, Admin. I haven't come across anyone who doesn't just love it. Many phone calls with my friends and family involve discussing the latest episode of "Doc Martin."
Did I hear Milo was insulting Asians? F-that.
Yes, she did, admin...and then when someone posted this:
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Suzeee! @Kateplusmy8 Chink chang chung. Quiqing. leipung. Fungshoo. Moo goo gai pan. Chop suey.
Milo responded to her:
MiloandJack
xxxx LOL Don't know who U are but U are making me laugh! :)
You gotta wonder how long The Stir would have put up with Kate re-cycling her Coupon Cabin blog posts. Maybe 5 or 6 posts? Maybe longer?
They probably would have put up with her complete drivel for a while.
But then she's gotta go shoot herself in the foot with that bully post.
I'm thinking her time with The Stir may not last as long as it might have otherwise.
PatK, I noticed the same thing. Lots of new names just saying the same thing. when similar things have happened before, it was suggested the same person was using different names to post similar thoughts over and over. Things that make you go hmmm...
Did Milo say something anti Asian? Does she not realize the children of her idol have Asian heritage? Is this for real?
I hope she is getting counseling for her obesity. Seems like if parent's had provided proper nutrition, this could have been avoided. Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.
Wow. Just. Wow.
Susie@70...
If I'm not mistaken, the kate fan who tweeted --.
Suzeee! @Kateplusmy8 Chink chang chung. Quiqing. leipung. Fungshoo. Moo goo gai pan. Chop suey.
directed it to a non-fan who is Asian. Milo responded by saying that it made her laugh.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 69
Yes, it's basically a comedy but not like the sitcoms produced here. I can't stand usual sitcoms. It's totally unique. They're just silly and NOT funny. It's difficult to describe. All the characters are interesting, quirky (to say the least) and funny. I find myself completely riveted and hate when it ends each week.
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Quirky is the perfect word to describe Doc Martin. I can't think of any American series that's similar. Maybe 'The Office' in its early days, a bit. Excellent writing, intriguing characters, story lines that make you want the next show ASAP. It's a comedy/drama -- that's the best I can describe it. Admin - I think you'd like it : )
Blowing In The Wind said... 49
"Whenever I think of Milo, I get the picture of Granny from the 'Beverly Hillbillies' in my mind!"
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I'm home sick with the dreaded bronchitis/earache
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Feel better! That's a crappy combo, so I hope it clears soon.
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Thanks, Tucker. I'll make it through this, but I can't talk and I can't hear...good I don't have to do either one on the computer! :)
Quirky is the perfect word to describe Doc Martin. I can't think of any American series that's similar. Maybe 'The Office' in its early days, a bit.
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It reminded me of Northern Exposure after just watching a few episodes of the first season. I recognize many of the actors.
The shaggy black dog is my Beardie's doppleganger. DH and I are laughing at every scene he's in.
What in the world does Kate's latest Tweet mean?
Wow said... 71
I hope she is getting counseling for her obesity. Seems like if parent's had provided proper nutrition, this could have been avoided. Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.
Wow. Just. Wow.
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Wow, where did that come from?
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@Kateplusmy8 absolutely not. With all you accomplish in a day you deserve to be giddy
Unless there are ten little Gladyses running around peaking in windows, how does this fan know what Kate does or does not do in a day? You just got to shake your head...
Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.
But?
You are a teacher?
I am terrified for your students.
Anonymous said... 67
''I hope she is getting counseling for her obesity. Seems like if parent's had provided proper nutrition, this could have been avoided. Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.''
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Ll, what on earth is wrong with you? Why on earth would you, in your wildest imagination, think that was an appropriate thing to say? YOU are blaming the victim, and it is despicable!! I better stop here before I say something that would get me banned forever from this blog!!
Why was my response not approved?
She sounds manic.
Wow said... 79
Still wrong about teasing, but look at the root of the problem. Don't become a victim to begin with.
''But?
You are a teacher?
I am terrified for your students
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Wow...that poster (LI @67) said she ''works in the medical field'',
Blowin' -- post #67.
You're right, Remona. I misread.
Suze and Joy in Virginia, I will keep everyone here posted about my vacation. I'm enjoying every minute here, as I have never been in the USA before. Evwrything is so different. Cracker Barrel, Sante Fe, Carrabbas are some of the places I have visited and loved all the different menus. I've been on tours and visited different historic sites and am overwhelmed about the so many Idifferent hardships that your country has endured. I am very impressed. I will keep you posted.
I wonder what the CEOs at The Stir think about Kate's whining spiel on Bullyville. Did they all put their collective heads together, going, "What did we get ourselves into?"
Perhaps they should have talked with Steve at CC.
Joy and PatK I had the same thought right after I posted. I've been sucked in, haven't I? Someone somewhere is snicking now.
Oh wow, the comments on the link provided above are great! Slaming KKG for everything, right down to the number of !!!!!!!!! She is using. Come on Robert, get that book out again.
Oops, that's 'snickering'
I know most of you can't get the local L.A. news but I an absolutely SHOCKED that one of the persons being protected due to his brother being named in the manifesto allowed his daughter to be interviewed on the news. She looks about 12 years old. And this person is a priest.
This is a psycho who has made it very clear he is going after children and families. What on earth would possess someone to put their child's face on the news under these circumstances? It's so odd to me common sense goes out the window for many adults when it comes to shielding their kids. To me it's just an absolute given that if you have any connection whatsoever to this crazy pants, you would want to keep you and your family out of the public eye.
I had a thought about Kate's recent bullying blog. I think it was done as a preemptive strike since Robert Hoffman is reissuing his book.
I'm posting re: the ones upset about teachers talking about parents and how they think teachers should be 'above it' due to them being teachers and having to set examples.
Do you guys actually think these teachers say these things TO these parents? Do these parents even have a clue about it? I seriously doubt that. So, what harm are they doing when it comes to setting an example for the kids? There is no harm.
Let's say these students...mean girl Sally and brutal Bobby ONLY talked about, gave nicknames to, their 'targets' in total privacy, with trusted friends......like the teachers do. Then, at school, Sally and Bobby acted completely normal to their 'victims', never actually SAYING anything derogatory, never TREATING them any different, etc, etc......well, then how would so called 'victims' ever even know they weren't all that well liked? They wouldn't. Which means NO BULLYING IS TAKING PLACE!
The only way the teachers wouldn't be setting a good example about this is if they actually called the parents these names, talked about them to the students, etc, etc.
What you don't know can't hurt you, right?
Just Tonight, I haven't chimed in on this but I have to say I completely agree with you. These things are said in the break room/lounge/happy hour whatever. They are not setting a bad example unless they are saying them to or in front of others. Anyone in any workplace knows that coworkers blow of steam in this manner about whoever it is their client is. Just like my friend at work have names for other coworkers who are queen bees/bullies/suck-ups. It's just between the two of us..and I'm sure they have names for us.
Bluebird said... 43
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Enjoy your visit to the US. For what it is worth, I am a US citizen, and can't always understand all of the dialects/accents throughout the country. But that is what I cherish and enjoy about the US, so many different accents, life styles, norms, climates, cultures, diversity, etc... It is what makes US a great country. And thank you for reminding me of that. I have traveled quite a bit througout the US for work, pleasure, etc.. and Tennessee is a great place to visit. Wished I had been there longer. Other favorite places - California, Maine, Florida (ok- I like warm weather), Boston, Washington, DC, North Carolina, Chicago,Illinois, New York, Georgia (lots of southern charm),Colorado, and PA (especially Phila- so much history). Still a million places I want to visit, but one of the joys of the US is the diversity, so thank you for reminding me of that!
Sue Buddy said... 12
ccpuff said... 6
Very well said. You are exactly right. The word "bully" is bandied about so much these days that it has lost its real meaning. I tried to get that point across in my article. It greatly diminishes the real problem for children who are relentlessly tormented when the word "bully" becomes the catch-all word for gossiping, teasing.
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Thanks Sue, I totally agree. Kate has chosen to exploit her kids, has exemplified horrific bullying behavior of her kids, husband, friends and family time and time again. These were her own choices, and not good ones at that.
Instead of crying "victim," this woman would do well to get mental health treatment, and understand that her own choices and behavior, which she chose to put out there, are the very reason she is being criticized widely. And is a huge insult to those who are truly being bullied, for no other reason than existing.
Of course, this is Kate's premptive strike with Hoffman's book coming out and she should be ashamed of herself (the bully that she is) for using this platform and diluting the true meaning of a victim who is bullied.
Doc Martin: quirky is a good word,also eccentric. The characters are so well-defined. I like Doc, Bert, Al, Pauline, the less major ones who visit the surgery, the situations. Funny yet sad. Realistic yet not. Some real life situations yet some impossible- to- believe ones. Give it a try!
Re: Kate. Now she's 'giggling?" She IS 12 or so herself in mind!
Bluebird, I'm so happy you're enjoying your visit to the US/Nashville. It's great to see our country through your eyes, especially your enthusiasm over our chain restaurants.
I love the food and the kitsch of Cracker Barrel. Try the meatloaf-- very "Americana". Of course, "sit a spell" on the porch, too.
Bluebird, your enthusiasm is so appreciated. With your attitude, I am sure you are receiving the kindest and friendliest responses. Please keep sharing experiences with us.
Thank you.
Gosselin8ComeFirst said... 95
My boyfriend has been in every state but Hawaii and Alaska. He worked in the US for 3 years and travelled to every state capital for his job. With the internet it's so easy to line up a day of visiting, dining and other interesting and quircky things to see. Yesterday I went to the Rainforest Cafe, I was blown away. My regret is that my grandsons are not with me to see this. I did pick up some souvenirs and took pictures.
There is so much diversity. My only regret is that I'm an avid country line dancer (21 years now, 3-4 times a week, it's my workout) and here in Nashville I would have thought that I would dance the nights away.
I visited the Country Music Hall of Fame yesterday and the Ryman Theater. Today we'll be heading out to see buy more souvenirs before leaving for Memphis tomorrow.
Like I said earlier, I'm enjoying everything so much that I'm not even thinking about what Kate is up to, I'm just scanning comments here so I won't be too far behind.
There is so much diversity. My only regret is that I'm an avid country line dancer (21 years now, 3-4 times a week, it's my workout) and here in Nashville I would have thought that I would dance the nights away.
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Anyone know of any great country line dancing places in Memphis, Tenn? Bluebird is heading there, and am sure she would appreciate it.
I also went to the Country Music Hall of Fame, and completely enjoyed it. I am actually enjoying YOUR vacation! Have a great time and keep us posted.
Oh dear lawd, I just watched a Today Show segment with Brandy Glanville. She is promoting her book, "Drinking and Tweeting" (makes me through up in my mouth right there) and she actually made Kate look like a diplomat.
Glanville must have mentioned that LeAnn Rimes went into rehab (anxiety issues) about 6 times. Of course, she HAD to write the book to support herself and kids! Of course!
Eddie the ex isn't working and giving her money so what's a girl to do?
She fully admits that the book will not help her relationships with LeeAnn and Eddie, but so what?
She looked like a smacked ass, dressed up for a night club at 8am.
What is wrong with these women.
Oh, and the biggest Kate connection was that Glanville never spews hate towards her ex on Twitter, she merely responds to comments.
Sound familiar?
A good guess is that Kate's attorney's have demanded to see Robert's revised book prior to publication. Her actions are an excellent guidepost as to what will be in the book. Robert will most likely have a chapter on her bullying, thus Bullyville. Her manic tweeting about how busy she is cooking and ferrying kids; a chapter on her helpers.
BTW, I sent an email to The Stir berating them on publishing Kate's blog as self-serving and unprofessional. So many negative comments following her blog, so little time to read them all :)
OT (sort of). This is a general reality show observation. Today HuffPost ran an article about the death of Mark Balelos. He appeared occasionally on "Storage Wars" (which recently was revealed as a scam, with a main character getting fired for revealing this, and then suing A&E for a million $.) Anyway, Balelos was arrested for possession of a controlled substance, and after release was found dead in his garage. Sad. The comments after the article were telling, though. They said, "It was only a matter of time before one of these reality people turned up dead. I wonder how much A&E cares about the people that appear on their shows?", and, "Nobody on a reality show is a 'star'" I think a good part of the general public has had enough of the reality show genre.
I saw Mark on Storage Wars. I used to watch until I thought okay, where is the masterpiece, oh there you are, of course. Very sad about Mark. He was on there just briefly, though as I recall. I have always thought they should rotate those people before they lose credibility and let it go to their head and not pay them until the end. It seems silly to see them on there gunning for a crappy locker and paying thousands of dollars for it, knowing they could care less. I don't even think they are using their own money.
OT, but I am a Tori and Dean fan (they work so hard and finish what they start). After Dean won Celebrity Cook Off with Rachel and Guy, I went looking to see if they had a web site. They do and it is the epitome of what a web site should be of course as they don't do anything halfway. Dean has one with some very good recipes on there. They are gourmet but he breaks it down so you can understand it. I think I looked up Gourmet Dad and Tori has one also called of course EdiTORIal. She has some great craft ideas that are easy and nice at the same time. I am definitely going to do the Valentine gifts with felt.
Anyway, just thought I would pass that on as I needed some place to browse (tired of KTs twitter and twazzup) and both websites are nicely done and up to date.
If you google Gosselin news (I do that because it's not specifically for Khate and often times, it will bring up football player Rick Gosselin), it will bring up three articles- one from US Magazine, one from the Inquisiter, and one from ROL-(I believe). These articles have been around since Feb. 9th or so and yet the most comments I have seen are about 125. You'd think with 128,000+ twitter "followers", there would be more comments and more positive comments about Khate and yet almost all of the comments following these posts are NEGATIVE! I remember when these articles used to get hundreds of comments. Why haven't the powers that be realized what we all know- NO ONE wants to hear about Khate anymore!
Readerlady are you still around?
Pity Party, I like Tori and Dean, too. They seem real. I hope I never read a "scandal" or divorce story about them. I watched him win the cook off.
She could have become another Lindsay L. disaster and she seems to have kept her wits about her.
I don't understand why my response to #67 wasn't approved.
Cc I never saw the post you keep asking about. Are you sure it went through? Please post it again and in the future email me instead of asking it on the blog. Thanks.
Happy Lincoln day to those celebrating.
Oh. That's why it wasn't published (blog girls maybe). You insulted another poster, CC.
My niece and sister were insulted but that was approved.
I haven't seen the cooking show but I've run into Tori Spelling a couple times, most notably was at a flea market to benefit the Catholic church. She was browsing the 2 dollar women's rack with intense interest. And no one was bothering her. Somewhere in her wardrobe are some 2 dollar shirts. This from a girl who grew up in the largest mansion in LA . At the end of the day, she wants to sort through other people's cast offs for treasures too.
Oh my gosh CC I realize what that was in response to now.....sorry, go ahead and post it. You have a right to respond.
Thank you, Remona and wow.
This blog just lost another one.
Like I said, too emotional to repost.
I love my niece no matter what she weighs.
CC, I made a mistake. I thought you were responding without provocation. I didn't go look. Don't leave because I wasn't following that conversation that closely. I totally agree with you and now that I've looked I am appalled at that original comment you rightly wanted to respond to.
This is really why people should e-mail me before jumping to conclusions, and also when they have an issue, explain what the issue is instead of just "my comment wasn't published." There are a lot of comments here so half the time I'm not sure what comment you are referring to or what it was in response to. The context is important.
No problem. I realize that LI doesn't matter and I don't need to respond. Those that matter "get it".
Admin - she decorated her new baby's nursery with flea market finds. It looks great.
CC that's why I didn't respond either. There are provocative comments that are worth discussing, especially when they are sincere and clearly not meant to just inflame for fun. And then there are some that really just aren't worth your breath. That wasn't.
Aw Pity really? I saw her at a Lion's Club flea market too. She bought this huge steer horn thing that must have been five feet across and was carting it all over the place pushing a stroller. It was hysterical. Has that popped up anywhere on her show? Never watched.
I'm a big flea market person myself. We have them year round here and it's good stuff, people are REALLY into antiques here. I always see her and Suzanne Summers lol. Only they are actually buying, I mostly just browse and take pics of cool things I see hehe.
One thing I do love buying and giving as gifts are these big wooden flower boxes this guy restores. They are fantastic for holding newspapers, magazines, dog toys, children's toys, anything like that and a good conversation piece.
OT I am in need of weather reports!
It is a perfectly gorgeous and unseasonably warm day today in central VA. Boo, calling for snow this weekend.
How about folks in the snowy Northeast? Have you dug out yet? A friend shared some photos relatives in Connecticut sent, they had over three feet of snow all around the house.
Dmasy, you do realize that Dean had an affair with Tori, dumped his wife, son and renounced his newly adopted child to be with her. I think he is pond scum.
Bluebird - I am so glad you are having a wonderful vacation in the United States. I grew up in and currently live in California. Several years ago, my mom and I took a short trip to Canada - first stop Vancouver, then by train across the country to Banff. I absolutely loved Vancouver and want to return for a further visit. Every Canadian we met on our trip, upon learning we were Americans, treated us kindly and were happy to share their knowledge of the area we were visiting. Lovely people :)
I also took a trip a few years ago to Toronto - another great place to visit! Love the public transportation. Our hotel was very nice, but apparently it was right next to a less nice part of town. We were told it was okay to walk in a group to the bus or nearby shops during the daytime, but not at night. However, we had no troubles.
If I were to move to another country, I think I'd beg Canada to take me lol!
Hey at least Kate's cruise didn't meet THIS fate. Sewage sloshing, blech!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/travel/cruise-ship-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Joy:
Northeast report! Power restored, ice yesterday after blizzard on the weekend, phones down too. Melting some today but a couple of inches of snow expected. Driving is bad as the banks are so high lanes are cut in half and can't see around them...also slippery. Our street is virtually one lane.
Ewwww... No cruises for me unless you can see land!
Beware puny mortals! cthulhu and the ancient ones may strike your cruise next.
O M G - Milo actually tweeted:
miioandjack
@kateplusmy8 Kate I wd give anything to be your man & live with u & help you. Jest "say the word" & I'll leave lights out man 4 U
11 min agofrom web · Retweet · Reply ·
From Twazzup
I was surprised Milo would say that so I went to look. Sure enough they're saying it's a fake account. I'm not sure how they did it but it's true that account only has one tweet.
https://twitter.com/MiIoandJack
They do it by changing the L to a capital i
My bad, should have investigated or at least looked closer...thanks Admin!
That's mean.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 120
''CC that's why I didn't respond either. There are provocative comments that are worth discussing, especially when they are sincere and clearly not meant to just inflame for fun. And then there are some that really just aren't worth your breath. That wasn't.''
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Admin, as one that responded to that despicable comment made, I'm putting in my two cents about the entire thing. I believe strongly...VERY strongly...that to keep silent when seeing an injustice implies approval. I refused to be silent, because I did NOT approve. My harsh response was allowed to be posted, and I appreciate that it was.
I think that your decision to keep your blog on moderation was the correct choice. However, the fools posting real life information to your unmoderated blog wasn't the only reason you chose to put the blog on moderation. It was also due to the trolls posting things in order to upset the other bloggers.
Your comment that some provocative comments aren't worth your breath to respond causes me to point out that if the comments aren't worth your breath to respond to, then perhaps that comment should not have been allowed through moderation to begin with!!
Remona fair point. The issue I'm having is that on the rare occasion I decide not to publish someone's comment, I often get absolute wrath from that person. The latest was "f you" only the real f word, followed by what they believe is my real name. For simply choosing not to publish an inflammatory comment!
I can be more discerning with comments, but I'd ask in return people be patient if one doesn't go through and email me about it if they don't agree. Half the time it was an oversight anyway, either it didn't go through or got stuck in the pending bin unnoticed, etc. It will make running this blog a bit more fun than it has been lately if everyone takes a deep breath and doesn't explode on every decision made here. It is wearing.
Breaking news......I THINK THEY FOUND DORNER!!!!!!!
I just saw this on msn.com about Dorner.
http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities
Here is a link to live news coverage regarding Dorner.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html
Sigh....I miss the folks that have gone to the FB group....can I join?
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Dmasy, you do realize that Dean had an affair with Tori, dumped his wife, son and renounced his newly adopted child to be with her. I think he is pond scum
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And she dumped her husband for HIM too, didn't she?
I was surprised Milo would say that so I went to look. Sure enough they're saying it's a fake account. I'm not sure how they did it but it's true that account only has one tweet.
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The racist comment and Milo's reply were sent by the "real" Milo. Other ones are from the account where the L was changed to the I. I saw it right away, but Milo didn't. Someone had to point it out to her. They did, however, use her avatar.
Yes Torri left her husband for Dean also. Dean' s wife was a chef on A T V show in Canada.
Dean and Tori are adulterators. Cheaters. At least Tori had no previous children she abandoned. Unlike her sketchy 2nd husband Dean.
They are also child pimpers of the ~primo~ variety due to their own reality show.
Gross.
Well, Clinton is a cheater, rumor is he still IS, and he has a ton of admirers. Some people don't care about that, they think that's your personal business.
"Do you guys actually think these teachers say these things TO these parents? Do these parents even have a clue about it? I seriously doubt that. So, what harm are they doing when it comes to setting an example for the kids? There is no harm."
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I would hope that there would be such a thing as personal integrity among professionals. Even if parents have no clue, one must live with himself, knowing that he is teaching the kids one thing (respect for others by not making fun of them, or ridiculing them), while doing the opposite in a teacher's lounge somewhere.
I don't know -- I guess it's just me and the way I was brought up. Each person has his own set of values and the personal choices he makes are his and his alone. I have to think of a line from Shakespeare's Hamlet..."God has given you one face, and you make yourself another."
Turn on the local news if you're in L.A. I've never seen anything this crazy. They think he may have escaped.
Admin-NCB in LA, has a live news feed here:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html
wth*ll, admin?!?
Why are you mentioning Clinton's situation, and also bringing in unsubstantiated rumors, to a conversation that's centered around Dean and Tori? He doesn't need defending but your comment was a petty sideswipe after all these years, especially given all the good he's done on the world stage since leaving office.
Agree Joanne. I just can't understand the nicknames. Venting, of course that's normal. Nicknames goes beyond discussion. I can honestly say I've never hard another professional call someone a nickname. Never. Unless it was to their face and they were in on the joke.
I find this odd; what does Preesi have against LAPD?
preesi @preesi
CHRIS DORNER IS A MARTYRE;
preesi @preesi
DO NOT LEAVE THE SCENE.''MAKE THE COPS ACCOUNTAB.E'''THESE COPS WILL KILL HIM AND NEVER PAY FOR THEIR CORRUPTION
preesi @preesi
@ChrisCuomo CHRIS THE MEDIAS JOB IS TO KEEP PPL ACCOUNTABLE LEAVING THE SCENE IS LETTING THE CORRUPTION CONTINUE
Reaching, I'm confused, I like Clinton. His affair was how many years ago? As was Tori and Dean's issues, years ago. That was the whole point of bringing it up. I think affairs are private business and not a reason to discount everything else good about that person. Personally, I find Tori to be very down to earth and unassuming and certainly doesn't prance around trying to get noticed in my experience.
Oh, thanks for the links for those interested! KFI also streams online just google KFI. The Jon and Ken show is on now, this show is fantastic and they are a little more willing to report rumors. Rumors that often turn out to be true, they are often spot on with their speculation. They are better at this than us. :)
......One of the officers shot today died. AWFUL. :(
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@msgoody2shoes21 This is wearisome enuf because of the negativity...but I have reasons I'll never 4sake Kate.
When I read this, the first thing that came into my mind was the Lieber and Stoller song. I wonder if Milo imagines Kate singing this to her--
When the night has come
And the land is dark
And the moon is the only light we'll see
No I won't be afraid
Oh, I won't be afraid
Just as long as you stand, stand by me
So darling, darling
Stand by me, oh stand by me
Oh stand, stand by me
Stand by me
If the sky that we look upon
Should tumble and fall
All the mountains should crumble to the sea
I won't cry, I won't cry
No, I won't shed a tear
Just as long as you stand, stand by me
If you believe it's a private thing, then why dredge it up? Why now? I ask with all due respect, because this is your blog and you can do what you want with it and discuss whatever you want.
The discussion centered around Tori and Dean, a couple that had a reality show and exploited their kids. Clinton didn't do either of those things. And he has nothing in common, whatsoever, with the stated emphasis of this blog.
You say you're confused, but as someone familiar with the construct of a logical argument, I suspect you understand where the parallels begin and end. You crossed that line, and it doesn't make sense to me that you did, unless you were just using this as an opportunity to spatter him with mud.
Reaching, you're reading way too much into what was said. A point was made that Tori and Dean are not to be admired because they had an affair. A counterpoint was made that many people that we admire have had affairs in their past and for many people it DOES NOT and SHOULD NOT matter. And since I quite like Clinton, it makes no sense I would want to "dredge" anything up. Really, if anyone has not heard about Clinton's affairs you're living under a rock. He'd be the first to say yes that is a part of my past. The child exploitation thing is a totally separate issue. On that, I would agree, they shouldn't exploit their children. To me the Clinton thing is a great comparison because it proves the point that affairs in someone's past is not necessarily a reason to write them off as bad people. I'm sorry that was offensive.....I didn't think it was. I thought it was a good point.
Joy....weather update. I lost power Friday evening, power returned Monday morning. Three feet of snow, more to come in a few days, but just a "dusting". The drifts are very high and the plowed areas are so high you really need to be careful before going into an intersection. Most of Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticutt have been restored. It was pretty cold with no heat. It could have been worse but the utility people were right there working fast and furious and keeping everyone safe.
Turn on the local news if you're in L.A. I've never seen anything this crazy. They think he may have escaped.
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They are now announcing that one deputy has died, and that explosions and flames are coming from the cabin in the standoff.There is speculation that Dorner is dead.
I have nothing against Dean and Tori. I don't know that much about them. I've known Carnie for some time, and I'm disappointed that she didn't win, but that's not to say that he didn't deserve the win. She lost by one vote. I know how much she wanted that win for her charity, but she accepted the loss with graciousness. That's what it's all about.
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@BColliesRGreat Obsession is a scary thing....makes U wonder what is wrong w/this person? They need help. Feel sorry 4them.
This is funny. Obsession is scary? Milo, grab a mirror, for heaven's sakes! You're in the final stages of Celebrity Worship Syndrome.
If not "obsessed," I wonder how she defines her fixation and over-the-top adulation of Kate.
Personally, I find Tori to be very down to earth and unassuming and certainly doesn't prance around trying to get noticed in my experience.
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Tell me you're not serious. This woman has written 3 books, has numerous television shows related to her "private' life and is an actress.
Are you basing this on your minute or two of seeing her at a freakin' SWAP MEET?
The only thing that differentiates Tori Spelling from Kate is that we don't know if she's physically abused her children.
I don't believe Tori Spelling exploits her children. They have never been filmed naked, potty training, kicking the crap out of each other or having melt downs. She owns up to having help and how much she appreciates her blessings. Dean's child with his first wife is often with them, but the first wife does not want him photographed so Tori and Dean respect that. Whatever happened between their previous relationships has been left private as much as possible unlike Leann Rhimes and Brandi Glanville. I like Tori's shows and think she comes off as a regular person and not flaunting her wealth. Dean's first wife was trying to do the talk show circuit awhile back promoting her book and bashing Dean and Tori, but it did not go that well.
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I'm sorry that was offensive.....I didn't think it was. I thought it was a good point.
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Now that you explained your thinking, I understand your line of reasoning. When you posted the first comment about Clinton, I had the same reaction as Reaching. If you reread the flow of conversation, maybe you will why it seemed random and to come out of nowhere. It isn't always clear which comment someone is responding to.
Anyway, I just can't think of Clinton as being in the same category as Dean. Clinton didn't dump his family. Not that he deserves an award for what he put his family, and the country, through. But, he and Hillary seem to have a relationship that works. I give them both a lot of credit for their dedication to each other and Chelsea.
Their dedication to Chelsea's privacy has been inspirational since that kid was 12. Even to this day, the average American knows little to nothing about her. According to Game Change Hilary was really upset that Chelsea wanted to get involved in her campaign. Even though Chelsea is in her 30's now, definitely a grown woman who can make her own decisions about how much exposure she wants, Hilary still had the mother bear instinct that still doesn't want her baby anywhere near the media. She discouraged it so much she considered forbidding her and it is rumored that Chelsea is a big factor in whether she will run again and put her through another campaign. Chelsea was insistent, so Hilary reluctantly let her help out with a few events. The Obamas are the same way, we know so little about their girls.
About Tori & Dean,& Clinton, exactly what Foxy and Amin. said.
There is one very big difference between Tori's kids and KT's kids being filmed. KT's kids were filmed being treated poorly, and Tori's were not. Tori's kids were never the focus of the show, but were shown only in brief segments and never when they were hot, tired, sick, thirsty, and hungry. That is why there was so much outrage over KT's kids being filmed; not so much because they were filmed, but that they were shown being treated poorly. Tori has gone on to many other endeavors and has built a virtual empire that does not revolve around her kids. She is not dependent on them in any shape, form or fashion and that show has been off the air for quite a while. She is very talented and gifted author. She has written several books and she has never written a book that was solely about her kids.. What is a mother of 4 to do, pretend that her kids do not exist. I think not. There is a tasteful way to do the work that you enjoy, and still be there for your kids and I think we have all seen that there is also a distasteful way to to go about it as well. To think that kids should never be filmed at all is not realistic That would take out half the shows on television and kids are cute and entertaining, when it is done tastefully, with boundaries. As for the other, I admire the both of them for their work ethic, and don't consider their interpersonal relationships to be a factor.
OT. Just got back from our last dinner and country show here in Nashville. We'll be leaving tomorrow morning for Memphis. I never realized that holly grew on bushes here in Nashville. I asked my boyfriend to cut a few branches, with berries, so I could show them to my daughter. I only hope I don't get stopped at the border with them, loll.
Someone earlier suggested that I try the meatloaf at Cracker Barrel's, so I did and my boyfriend had the dumplings, delicious. I wish we had Cracker Barrel's in Canada.
Today we visited Belle Meade Plantation in Nashville, it's hard to imagine the hardships people went through during the civil war.
Everyone else enjoying their Lincoln Day? Looks like they got Dorner. Nice holiday day off present.
Bluebird, thank you so much for embracing the USA and reminding those of us who live here to appreciate our culture -- both the big things and the small things.
I am enjoying your travels. Keep the reports coming!
Pity thanks for the explanation. With the caveat I've never seen the show, I don't see it as realistic to expect that kids will never be on T.V. or even reality T.V. at all. Kids are going to be on our T.V.'s, so the best we can hope for are that proper protections are in place. The Spellings live in CA which has excellent protections for kids that extend to reality T.V. We know for a fact they are by law not working long hours, and that they are getting proper education and have proper pay with trust accounts in place to protect it. Tori was a child star herself and is aware of all this. I like hearing examples of kids who are treated better than what we've heard in the past. The reality is, kids are not going to go away from our screens. So if it can be done in a manner that respects them, their time, and pays them properly, I like to hear that and I think that's the best we can hope for.
Bluebird your descriptions of the U.S. are a delight!! Keep it coming.
Bluebird:
"Someone earlier suggested that I try the meatloaf at Cracker Barrel's, so I did and my boyfriend had the dumplings, delicious. I wish we had Cracker Barrel's in Canada."
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Welcome, Bluebird, to America! Lol, my family is all Southern and we have spent many a morning at "the Crack"– not really for the food, but it's reliable on a road trip and my folks can't resist a dose of kitsch. (Just don't eat there twice in one day. Especially on a road trip. I won't elaborate, but let's just say, "DAMN YOU, UNCLE HERSCHEL!" is a reliable curse in my family...)
Admin– it's been talked about before, but would, perhaps, a post on what's been called "Celebrity Worship Syndrome" be feasible? I apologize if you've done one before and I just didn't see it...I know there was one on celebrity stalkers, but I just think it might be interesting to delve a little more into this topic.
One of my very good friends and former roommates was a contestant on a reality show about 5 years ago. He didn't win but was a fan favorite and has since discovered that he has a large international following– he was literally traveling in South America and Asia and had teenage girls screaming, "It's YOU!" and taking pictures. He's gregarious, flamboyant, and did pursue this opportunity...but thought that being recognized on the street was creepy as Hell.
Zelda Zee, what's a kitsch?
I know I'm packing on the pounds here. I'm trying corn bread, biscuits and different rolls. Dumplings, fried chicken and so many other things that I don't normally eat. But it's all so good.
I'm hoping to see the ducks in the Peabody Hotel in Memphis, and of course Graceland.
@Bluebird
Ooh, kitsch– hard to explain! Like a painting of Elvis on velvet, or a big-eyed weeping child statuette...something so over the top in intent that it becomes ridiculous. Not quite a parody, but almost.
Cracker Barrel is "kitschy" in that is is SO "old tyme country store" in a way that they never existed. It's about the idea of the "country/Southern" ways as interpreted by people who never lived it, lol.
(Seriously, as a Southerner who lives in NYC, you'd be amazed at what people still think "the South" is like...)
Speaking of food, today was Fastnacht Day in my neck of the woods. It's the day before Ash Wednesday when all of the lard and sugar is used up in the house before lent. It's also a tradition that says if you don't eat Fastnachts on Shrove Tuesday, a bad case of head lice will ensue. I'm good to go. I had three today...with molasses, of course!
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Kitsch can also be subjective. What one person thinks is kitsch is another persons, "Why doesn't my entire house look like this?" Personally, I love neon, glitter and 'artistic' renditions of pop culture stars (check out artist Isabel Samaras for examples). I own lawn gnomes and pink flamingos. Is it all tacky? Hell yeah! Do I KNOW that? HELL YEAH!
Is it safe for me to come back? I left for several days after my unintended firestorm. Really, my PURPOSE was to convince people that they need to be advocates for their children, that teachers take this seriously, and need to be called out if they do not. I would like to keep posting, but I'm a little afraid to become a lightning rod again! And for the record (oh gee, I probably shouldn't post this) comments about parents never make it to parents or children. However, parents comment about teachers all the time, IN FRONT of their children. They have nicknames for teachers, too. They tell me they don't want their child to be in Worksheet Queen's class. Or Ditto Master. Or Homework Czar. Etc. To which I can only reply sweetly, "You'll have to talk to the principal. I am not in charge of assigning classes."
Just Down The Road, a few years ago I was in Basel, Switzerland during the Fasnacht Festival. It was a remarkable 24 hours of celebration and music and color in a quaint town.
Your word brought back so many memories.
Is your tradition related in any way to the carnival in Switzerland?
ccpuff I just got caught up on the more recent posts and won't comment on the teacher issue, but I wanted to say that the kind of bullying you describe makes me insane! I often think about what I would do if one of my three kids was being bullied at school, and sitting in the principals office until the media arrives comes to mind. I have no tolerance for such crap (pardon the language). The mama bear in me explodes. Fortunately, we have been blessed with responsive principals and teachers thus far.
I am sorry that your niece has to deal with such childishness and cowardice.
Have any of the bookies here read Defending Jacob? A friend just finished and lent me their copy.
Hook 'em Horns, just think of it as ” lively discussion”. I still think it was an unusual coincidence that so many unfamiliar names were posting the same things over and over.
I enjoy your posts and understand exactly what you were trying to get across.
I am a GRITS girl. Y'all have probably seen the shirts in Cracker Barrel.
Zelda, do tell what the New Yorkers say about people and living in the south.
Well, we just finished Mardi Gras, another one down. Didn't get to go this year, worked night shift. The church bells rang at midnight and mounted police took their annual ride down Bourbon Street sending revelries on their way while the street sweepers followed discarding and swishing anything and everything in its path. It's really quite a sight to see.
I own lawn gnomes and pink flamingos. Is it all tacky? Hell yeah! Do I KNOW that? HELL YEAH!
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I have an "ode" to the iconic pink flamingo too. It's a little metal sculpture that sticks in one of my front flower pots. Makes me smile!
About 2 miles away from me, there's a house that has a 15-20 foot tall flamingo in their front yard. I can't imagine it doesn't violate some sort of zoning, but there it is!
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I'm grateful that the CA murder spree saga is done and hope many people are feeling peace and safe(er) today.
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I'm still loving Doc Martin. What a breathtaking area!
About bullying. I work with Special Ed students and the bullying is relentless. Sometimes the teachers are the worst bullies of all. They are much more subtle, but they make comments and treat the students in ways that give the students "permission" to bully too. I am just an "aide" and my opinions make absolutely no difference. It is up to the parents to watch out for their kids. Don't be afraid to speak up and advocate for your kid. The administration hates dealing with vocal parents. Speak up, get involved, know what's going on. In our school, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Unfortunately, many kids who are bullied have parents who don't care. I fight for "my kids" and I have faced some hot water because of it. The parents have so much more power than they realize. And yes, teachers do talk about parents, and students too.
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Have any of the bookies here read Defending Jacob? A friend just finished and lent me their copy.
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I have read this. I thought it was fabulously disturbing. I'm now reading We Need To Talk About Kevin. I don't have any words for that book yet.
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Have any of the bookies here read Defending Jacob? A friend just finished and lent me their copy.
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I'm still entrenched with Doc Martin and then have the new Kellerman book to read. The Doc even kept me away from Downton Abbey - I'm telling you, it's addictive!
Hope there's now a sense of safety now in your area, Admin.
I read Defending Jacob - right after Kevin- Excellent, although I didn't really like the ending, but a well-written, riveting book. Jodi Picoult's Nineteen Minutes, and Life Before her Eyes are also good, similar themes.
Oh, Defending Jacob yes, I read that a while back and found it well-written but disturbing. It's a good legal thriller and the family dynamics were complicated and, at times, hard to believe, but it all came together. I found it very sad, very real.
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Pity Party you beat me to it. Tori Spelling (and to a much lesser extent, her husband Dean) had famous names before having children. They certainly did not scheme with mother nature and a dim doctor into giving them six personal ATMs for future use. I think people are forgetting the back story of the "K & J Get Rich On TLC" project.
Anyway, I went over to CM and looked at the comments for Khaties column. The good news is most are negative and quite a few realize she's just plagiarizing her already plagerized CC blogs. I do believe her last rotation around the drain is near.
What is so distressing to me now about her, is that she is obviously unpopular (she must know this and either a. likes it or b. believes the old saying re any publicity) and polarizing herself.This seems to be worse than before in that more people are onto her and are clearly viewing their opinions and in a much more negative and angry voice. It's only going to get worse as this drags on. What she doesn't get - in her over-processed blond head - is that she's also polarizing her kids. The more desperate she becomes, the worst it will be for them. God I wish a judge could stop her, as in she's mentally unfit to parent and is isolating them further because of her fame-whoring. Unfortunately since the physical and mental abuse wasn't enough before, this certainly won't be either. She's doing MORE unknown damage to their futures. Kate, it's OVER. Stop making a fool of yourself, your ex husband and your children.
Rant over, off to work. Hoping things get better for you soon ex-nurse and the others going through some rough times here.
Admin, I respect you but comparing Dean McDermott to Bill Clinton...really? Have you ever spent time with a friend devastated when her husband has an affair and within weeks announces he is leaving you and his kids? I have. That's why I stick with my opinion, Dean is pond scum. At least Bill and Hilliary worked their marriage out.
As far as Tori and Dean, most TV critics say these are a couple, who lacking talent, exploit their children to cash in. I don't know if this still exists, but Tori opened up a Twitter account for Liam when he was three. Both Tori and Dean tweet everything. Social networking, oh what would these D-List celebrities do without it? They planted divorce rumors in the tabloids so they could pretend to fight on their show. I also read that they did a vow renewal but not sure if that was something that was aired, but Tori was quick to go public about it.
Even Tori's mother, not shy when it comes to living publicly, said her grandchildren are "props".
Tori and Dean may not be as controversial as Jon and Kate were, but filming your tiny children for all the world to see is exploitation. Period. It's a racket for no-talents to make money.
Jane:
Don't you love the shaggy dog in Doc Martin? Martin Clunes is brilliant-portrays the anti-social-ish (lol) personality so well! I always wonder why Louisa is attracted to him- I mean, he told her she had bad breath and smelled like urine!
Kate tweeted today:
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@Kateplusmy8 Mornin Kate! pretty please post more yummy recipes n recent fam photos on ur website!
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@xxxxx working on it....:)
Kate tweeted on Nov. 22:
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@Kateplusmy8 you don't have enough updated pictures on your website. j
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The last pictures on her website are from the beach trip. She's been "working on it" for almost 3 months.
It seems that her website is the last thing she's "working on". She didn't even post about her last bog at The Stir. The Stir has a link to her website, you'd think she would post a link to her bog on hers.
Also, if she's "working on" posting pictures, like she's said she "working on" her books, I highly doubt we'll ever see another book from Kate.
I think there's a difference in the extent of child exploitation taking place with Tori & Dean and that of J&K+8's show, but IMO, it still is happening. J&K's exploitation of their kids was the basis for the show and Tori & Dean's show is based on the family, too - the only difference is that T&D's outside activities are also shown where J&K basically had none.
What makes me sad is that with Tori & Dean, I think they could have a very good show without USING the kids so much (episode after episode revolve around the McDermott kids). The definition of exploitation is to USE something or someone for your own profit/benefit and I think that Tori & Dean are using their kids for profit - just not as objectionably as J&K.
I found one of the Rachel vs Guy shows on Demand last night and stole a peek. They were in some diner. Having found Dean to be interesting, pleasant and a good chef, I have the same thought as Carole. He could easily make his own way without involving the kids at all.
How hard is it really to keep your web site reasonably updated with a new photo or two? I mean if I wanted to add a photo to this thread now it would take me 30 seconds. Literally. I can't imagine she even does it herself, all she probably has to do is email them to her web master.
However I am glad her laziness and lack of motivation mean we aren't seeing too many update photos of the kids--this is a good thing.
I know mr. milo is always defending KK but has KK ever defended her bestest fan?
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Well said. Kate's antics will haunt her kids and there's nothing new in her CM column. She has said this dozens of times before.
We get it. Half a cow, 2 dozen eggs, blah, blah, yada, yada.
What I found most interesting about Kate's boohoo missive about HER being bullied is that she has left her kids wide open to bullying subjects that she could not have fathomed as an adolescent. There's a treasure trove of material in all of the footage of those poor kids.
Moreover, Kate never admits to not being perfect and bullying herself. "What planet are you from?", "Joooooooooooooooon!!", "Stop playing like a kid".... to her making fun of the dog breeder, to saying mean things to her kids to get them to cooperate, etc.
And how about her bodyguard bullying people to delete photos that he had absolutely no right to do. None. Yet he intimidated and coerced until they capitulated.
Kate has zero introspection, let alone culpability.
This is why I think an honest approach to the bullying issue would have gotten Kate ten times the attention and publicity she is getting now.
Kate admits "I was a bully." Kate tells her sob story why she was one--depression, it made her feel powerful, whatever. She would still be a spokesperson for bullying, but from the other end, a reformed bully. It would be front page trash tabloid news.
Have you ever spent time with a friend devastated when her husband has an affair and within weeks announces he is leaving you and his kids? I have.
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I don't imagine that Clinton's wife (and his daughter) thought it was a bed of roses when the entire nation was exposed to the Clinton affair. Nobody has any idea what Hilliary might have gone through and was public embarrassed when the details of that scandal were revealed, especially when it came out that Monica wasn't the first one -- there was Gennifer and Paula as well.
"Hook 'em Horns, just think of it as ” lively discussion”. I still think it was an unusual coincidence that so many unfamiliar names were posting the same things over and over."
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I'm not so sure that the unfamiliar names who posted weren't regulars or semi-regulars who changed names because of recent sheeple happenings. None of them appeared to be trolls, just posters with opinions on the issues of teachers making fun of parents. It seemed that the reason there were so many posts over and over again was because some just didn't get the point, that yes, teachers talk about parents, but when they teach the kids not to bully or make fun of other kids, they turn around and do the same thing by making fun of parents. At least this was the point I got, and it seemed to me to be a valid one.
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I own the full-size leg lamp from A Christmas Story and it's in the window every holiday season! Tacky? Yes indeed, but fun!
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Jane:
Don't you love the shaggy dog in Doc Martin?
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DH and I "squealed" with delight when we first saw that dog. He (she?) is the spitting image of our Beardie mix. Right down to the mannerisms. However, I think Doc's dog may be a bit brighter than our Beardie ;-)
Loving the show. Still in Season 1 so please no spoilers if you can!
Having found Dean to be interesting, pleasant and a good chef, I have the same thought as Carole. He could easily make his own way without involving the kids at all.
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Now he's got cooking chops. I'd eat his food over Kate's any day. I think Tori and Dean both have enough going for them without the kids.
I haven't watched the show, and have just seen snippets of Dean cooking, but they both ooze personality and would be very watchable.
Maybe they should be the next Sonny and Cher? Donny and Marie?
especially when it came out that Monica wasn't the first one -- there was Gennifer and Paula as well.
The Gennifer affair was already well known to Hilary before Bill even became president. I remember seeing news shows on it while he was running for his first term. Paula Jones had filed her lawsuit before the Monica Lewinsky scandal came out.
My feeling about Clinton is this - it's between him and Hilary. If she chooses to remain married to him that is her business. She's not a stupid woman by any stretch of the imagination so I think she's capable of making a decision and living with the consequences.
My irritation was that we wasted a slew of tax payer money on something that really was much ado about nothing, in my opinion, just because Kenneth Starr was trying to make the Whitewater Case work in his favor, which to be fair was his job. Don't get me wrong - I think adultery is reprehensible. But I think we make way too big a deal about sex in our country. I think it's between the adults involved and nobody else's business.
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don't imagine that Clinton's wife (and his daughter) thought it was a bed of roses when the entire nation was exposed to the Clinton affair. Nobody has any idea what Hilliary might have gone through and was public embarrassed when the details of that scandal were revealed, especially when it came out that Monica wasn't the first one -- there was Gennifer and Paula as well
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I didn't hear anyone defending Clinton's affairs--just that it isn't an apples to apples comparison. Clinton did not dump his wife and he was the model of a protective parent who lives life in the public eye. Unlike the Spellings who have made exploiting their children a family business.
For the record, I am a lifelong Democrat who thought that Clinton should have resigned, rather than put his family and the country through the shock, drama and embarrassment. My kids were between the ages of 12-15 when every news outlet was regularly discussing oral sex during their headlines segment. I thought that it was a very selfish act for him to stay in office and be a major distraction.
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Oh, ok, I'm just in Season 3 so will keep it in mind- I hope I haven't given any spoilers?
Your dog must be adorable!
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