Thursday, February 7, 2013

"I'm supposed to teach them life"

Five documentaries about education not to be missed



With so many of us snowed in or on lockdown, we thought it would be a great time to highlight some absorbing documentaries to keep you warm! 

The educational system documentary. Despite all the bad press about schools today, many filmmakers have been steadfastly creating documentaries that highlight some of the most compelling stories out of our schools and from our remarkable teachers and kids. Some of these films may shock you, others move you to tears. All of them will give you hope.

Here are our top five favorites: 


5. The Great Cafeteria Takeover. 

A group of teens and pre-teens post-Katrina dismayed at the appalling quality of cafeteria food sets out to actually change it. (HBO.)


4. Spellbound


Follow super-spellers as they spend every waking moment preparing obsessively for the 1999 National Spelling Bee. Oddly as tense as any thriller, you will agonize over every letter right along with them.  (Netflix, Amazon.)

3. American Teacher 



Profiling four extraordinary teachers as they give everything of themselves for very little pay or accolades to educate our kids. (streaming Netflix, Amazon.)


2. Pressure Cooker


Coming in at a very close second place is Pressure Cooker, about a no nonsense culinary arts teacher, Wilma Stephenson, who pushes inner city Philadelphia high schoolers to cook their butts off. It pays off when they routinely win competitions and scholarships (her class has won over half a million in scholarships since she started the program). She makes no bones about calling her students "ghetto" when they are not performing up to par, while in the next breath telling them she loves them. And, you soon realize, she truly does. It's heartwarming to see kids learn far more about themselves and their own capabilities than they ever do about soufflĂ©, thanks to one teacher who doesn't settle for "just good enough." (streaming Netflix, Amazon.)

1. To Be and to Have



Perhaps the opposite of Wilma Stephenson and her tough love, soft spoken French teacher Georges Lopez is gentle, patient and kind. He guides his one-room schoolhouse of all ages through lessons on penmanship, omelet flipping, and working together in harmony. In one particularly moving scene, he brings a stoic school bully to silent tears as he talks to him calmly about how his words and actions are hurting others. We find out some time later, the boy's father is in a serious battle with cancer.  But, that's no excuse for Lopez. "Sickness is a part of life," Lopez tells him as they chat together under a tree. His simple words somehow seem to bring the child comfort.


In nearly every conversation he has with his students, he asks for their thoughts and opinions on the matter, and the children show him tremendous respect in return. When he asks his younger students what they want to be when they grow up, not surprisingly, many of them say teachers. Aptly dubbed by some viewers as a "Hymn to Teaching," this gradual unfolding of a year in the life of one very special educator and his class is an absolute work of art. (The only sad part about the film, is that due to the unexpected massive success of the film, Lopez said he and his students felt exploited, and that fame traumatized some of his students.)  (Netflix, Amazon.)

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Sherry Baby said...

Kate Twit (195) "I find it funny that Kate included her current "employer" among the people that "bullied" her."

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Yes, contributors on The Stir in the past have not been kind to Kate, and yet she chooses to work for those who bullied her. This is why all of this is going to come back to bite her in the a$$...big time. She'll never be able to explain her way out of that one.

Winsomeone said...

I have never read any comment anywhere from any of Kate's old classmates or friends. Now that she has accused them publicly of relentlessly bullying her, do you think maybe at least one of them will find their voice? Or does she have some magical hold over everyone that she grew up with?

Pity Party said...

Thank you Dmasy!

I haven't read any of the articles and I am not going to do. It seems an insult to all the children who are truly bullied and secretly cutting themselves and worse. I am happy to report that my son is thriving, since I took him out of school. It was the best decision I ever made and he will not have to go there again unless he tells me that he is ready.

Pity Party said...

I also remember her telling, him don't be the victim; it is very unattractive. This after she slapped him in face so hard it turned red.

Sue Buddy said...

Well I said I'd be watching and come back if Kate did something stupid, I mean noteworthy.

New article:

Kate Gosselin-Bullied? Get Serious

Dmasy said...

Sue Buddy, you never fail to go straight to the heart of the issue and to speak logic and truthful analysis. Thanks for coming out of "retirement" to write again.

FYI said...

Welcome back, Sue Buddy!! As always, great article and spot on. Good point about Kate using the term "negative nonsense" and implying that it's bullying.

Pity Party said...

Hook Em...thank you for your service! You too, Sue Buddy!

FYI said...

When Isaw the sheeple giving kudos to Kate for that article and emphatically insist that she has been and is still being bullied, I actually remembered a song/dance from the sixties whose name applies to Kate and her sheeple.

Anyone here remember "Wooly Bully"?

Julianna said...

Well I said I'd be watching and come back if Kate did something stupid, I mean noteworthy.

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Another great article, Sue...you really tell it like it is, and so articulately. I'm kind of out of the loop about this bullying thing. Is Kate blaming CC for firing her because of the negative comments and nothing that she did? The Stir hired her, so is this a company that can see that she's pure at heart? The comments there have been negative. Will she blame her dismissal from that site on the haters? It must be great to have a back-up excuse when things go wrong in your life. Nothing is ever her fault.

Doesn't Kate ever wonder why she is so disliked and so hated that her behavior generates this war between the fans and non-fans? It would seem to me that she'd at least try to figure out what it is about herself that provokes others to criticize her to the extent that they do. You can only blame others so long. There comes a time when you have to sit down and say, "could it be ME or something that I did that would cause this backlash against me by so many people?"

Kate is an enigma, and a polarizing one at that.

Melissa NV said...

Sue Buddy, you never fail to go straight to the heart of the issue and to speak logic and truthful analysis. Thanks for coming out of "retirement" to write again.

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Sue Buddy "gets" Kate better than Kate "gets" herself! Nice job, Sue...thanks!

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be amazing if one, just one picture had ever turned up either on J&K+8 or K+8 of Kate looking at her child with the face of the teacher in number 3 above? Just think, in all these years of her fugly face posted all over magazines, etc., I have NEVER seen her have that loving expression when she is with her children. It is sick. She is so idiotic to call herself bullied. She is the ultimate bully.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Sue Buddy, thanks for a great article. Well written, insightful and so true. Thanks for sharing with us.

Lukebandit, positive thoughts going out to you for physical strength, mental strength and spiritual strength.

Sue Buddy said...

Dmasy, Kate is a twit, Pity Party, Julianna, Melissa NV, SwingsandRoundabouts, thank you so much for reading and commenting.

I hope her own kids don't experience bullying as a result of her continual whining and begging and being a complete embarrassment to them.

Anonymous said...

Kate claimed she picked up "MY" kid from school late 11:50pm last night. Who was watching the rest of them while she did that?

T.

gabby2 said...

I wonder what all the 50 fired caretakers/volunteers are thinking about Kate...She gives new meaning to the word "bully". Look up bully in dictionary, it says "kate gosselin". lol

Can't wait for new book!!

fidosmommy said...

GREAT article, Sue Buddy. Your best yet, and that's saying something.

I don't know how cheerleaders were chosen at Kate's private Christian school. In my public school, they were voted on by the student body. In other schools they are elected by a panel of judges - a coach, a teacher, and an administrator, for example.

Since I come from the student body elected cheerleader format, I can't believe a kid who was bullied in Middle School would suddenly be
so popular and well loved that she would be elected to such a prominent position in HS.

Meagler said...

The one photo of Kate in a " loving" moment, is the one with Colllin at the corn maze, and even in that one she is grabbing onto his ears!

I dont doubt Kate loves her kids, but she is not a LOVING type Mother. They may receive loving " moments" but it is not a "loving" lifestyle. Jon however appears to have a "loving" lifestyle.

Kate always comes first, and the kids needs are often felt as an inconvenience to her.

Perhaps her late night school function was a wind up party that would not be on the calendar. That tweet was only again, to show what ahard working mother she is.

My tweet would have been stating something like " just picked up one of the kids who is excited about her year end wind up. They had so much fun. Thnks to those who organized"...

rather then the true meeaning of her tweet " see there is a raging storm out there, but I deserve mother of the year, because I am a mother of 8 who had to drive out in the storm to pick up my kid and I just know that none of you have ever had to do that, because doesnt everyone have a nanny or bodyguard who does that for you ? I am so hard done by..pity me! and then everyone bullys me because I am so over worked."

Oh Lordy Be!!!

Vanessa said...

‘I Felt Insecure, Alone & Ugly’

I wonder if M felt ugly when she (and Jon) made fun of her teeth? I wonder if C felt ugly when she constantly mentioned his big head (her words)? I wonder if J felt insecure when she constantly put him last and made fun of his speech? I wonder if Jon felt insecure and alone when she CONSTANTLY ragged on him for anything and everything? His grammar, his weight, his hair, his parenting? The man couldn't even breathe!!

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Sue Buddy, I think I love you :o)

Thank you for publishing another intelligent article.

Kate's stinkin' guilty of bullying- "victim" my a*s.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

[excerpt]

"Fortunately, because most companies are accustomed to dealing with this sort of negative nonsense, they stood by me as a rule and we successfully saw our endeavors come to fruition! I am so grateful to the many corporations, family and friends who have chosen to see me for who I really am and know the truth and goodness that defines me."

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Really? Nothing that Kate has done came to fruition- except alienate everybody, and crank out kids.

The more she opens her mouth, the more apparent
her mental illness.

Anonymous said...

Harassing, threatening and bullying are not the same and it's disheartening to see a teacher getting them confused.


Truther

fidosmommy said...

Somewhere Kate came to believe that raising children is like handling new recruits in the military. Yell a lot and let them know they are
nothing. Except, the military breaks them down in order to remold them into people fit for
protecting and defending. Kate? I'm not so sure she's into the rebuilding part.

Millicent said...

Pity Party - thank you for sharing your son's experience with us. Bullying (real bullying that is), is tremendously painful and serious and it aggravates me whenever Kate cries "I'm being bullied!"

I am so glad you were able to remove your son from the school situation and find a workable solution. It's great to hear how you two have very open and honest communication.

I think middle school and high school are probably the most difficult and painful times for almost all of the children involved. My son is a good looking kid, high achiever, smart, funny, and athletic. Yet he sees himself as an outsider often, or "less than" his peers. It's such a painful thing to watch as a parent. Thankfully, he is not bullied and he has a core group of three good friends. I have observed him when out in public, or walking through the parking lot at school, and he is often greeted by other students, they high five, or laugh or say something to each other. So from the outside, he looks like he's one of the lucky high schoolers.

But I know he feels insecure, ugly, and has self esteem issues. He hates the cowlicks in his hair, he thinks his teeth aren't white enough, the list can go on and on. I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money in the world, even if I could be young again.

I wish you son the very best. He has a wonderful advocate on his side - you :)

Unknown said...

It is so interesting to me that KK has once again ignored the advice that when you are in a hole, stop digging!! It is almost shocking to me that it never entered her mind that claiming to be bullied by people who are simply disagreeing with her would open the discussion of what we saw with our own eyes on the reality shows.

SHE is the bully. She bullied Jon from beginning to end in every single episode. She yelled at and bullied her children in every episode. We SAW it, and we remember it. Everyone other than KK and her very few fans saw it and remember it....and are commenting w/examples of her bullying behavior.

It seems impossible to me that she is unaware of her behavior, so I see her latest comments as her effort to manipulate opinions in yet another attempt to get attention. Even as I type that, I realize that I'm wrong about her. She really and truly believes that anyone that doesn't agree with her is bullying her, doesn't she? Just as she has said more than once to Jon, ''If you don't stand beside me, you are against me!''

Honestly, I would feel sorry for her if she weren't such a destructive person to Jon and her children...and anyone else that has the misfortune to be in her orbit. But she is...so I don't feel one tiny bit sorry for her.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Radaronline is still promoting whatever Kate says. She is the bully of all bullies in my opinion and there are taped shows to prove my point. Go away, Kate. Love and take care of your "wonderful" children as you refer to them in the article. When Kate needs extra attention, they sure become convenient.

fidosmommy said...

I was an unattractive teenager and could have been the target of bullies very easily. Yet I never was. I don't remember anyone being bullied at my school. There were some that indivudual kids didn't like, but that's par for the course in a large suburban school. Those kids were still treated with enough respect that their daily lives were not messed with.
At our recent reunion there were no unhappy stories of "Joe" stuffing kids into lockers or
"Linda" leading the coalition to make "Mandy"
feel awful about her clothes. And clothes were
VERY important! You didn't go anywhere without your @Villager outfit and your @Cappizzio shoes
and your @Aigner purse! I wore clothes my mom sewed/knitted and I never got called out about it even once.

I am guessing that the bullies have some huge
lack that only being mean will fill up for a few satisfying minutes.

Like I said, I was unattractive, but often ate lunch with the cheerleaders, was treated very well by all and have no bad memories of my classmates. I guess I just never stopped to think how very fortunate we all were. My heart goes out to those who find school so disheartening.

MJ said...

LukeBandit,
I'm thinking about you and sending prayers for strength, peace, and healing during this difficult time. (((hugs)))

Pity Party,
Thank you for sharing your son's struggle with us. You sound like a loving mom with a great son. It's good to hear that he's thriving.

Sue Buddy,
Thank you for another insightful, articulate article about Kate.

ncgirl said...

"Sorry, Kate-you already did your BooHooTour in 2009. How come you didn't mention being bullied then?"

That's because everybody kissed her butt, and Jon was the villain. Things were going her way then.

Her latest tweet from Life Tools is sad:

"You can't always be nice. That's how people take advantage of you. Sometimes you have to set boundaries."

Is Kate trying to explain why she isn't nice? It's sad she has to go through life feeling like this.

Meagler said...

Nah...no bullying behavior here...no nudity here either, check out how she treated Jon in the few seconds of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeY5TEVHaM

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Sue Buddy's article was great. I would certainly agree with everything she wrote. I also believe that Kate "buffalo's" her way with people along w/bullying. She appeared to intimidate the life out of Jon. That's how I see a person who buffalo's. Very unattractive.

gabby2 said...

She must have loved bedrest for the multiples....so she felt justified barking orders and demeaning anyone around her....even the poor nurses.

And POOOR "icky" "boys"......

I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said...

You CAN be nice AND set boundaries!

Blowing In The Wind said...

It is so interesting to me that KK has once again ignored the advice that when you are in a hole, stop digging!! It is almost shocking to me that it never entered her mind that claiming to be bullied by people who are simply disagreeing with her would open the discussion of what we saw with our own eyes on the reality shows.

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I agree, and I posted @190. She just won't stop. It's so frustrating to see her doing this. You'd think that she would have learned from past mistakes, but she doesn't. I would hope that she would have someone around to advise her, but even if she did, would she listen?

MJ said...

"You CAN be nice AND set boundaries!"

Amen! That's the mature, kind, and respectful way to live. But screwy thinking Kate doesn't understand that and goes thru life bullying others to get what she thinks she deserves.

Meagler said...

A lot of biotchyness and some bullying...and she laughs! Kate has been "teasing" Jon about his weight for the past 3 seasons"... yet, I see rolls in her midsection on the couch also!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psQ4PU0t7QM

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Meagler said... 30

Nah...no bullying behavior here...no nudity here either, check out how she treated Jon in the few seconds of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeY5TEVHaM

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Good Lord. Kate is a pill in that video.

I couldn't stomach watching the other "Ugly Moments" videos that are available.

Kate IS NOT A VICTIM. She is an emotional vampire, a succubus, a fraud, and a BULLY.





Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Spot on Sue Buddy......love it. My opinion about Kate thinking she was bullied? Translation: everyone is jealous of me. Jealous of my looks in high school and jealous of my fame and new money. Kate you idiot. Bullying and being jealous are two different things. And if you know anything about bullying, they say people bully because they are actually quite insecure. Not necessarily jealous. Her ego goes to the jealous place every time. She is so stupid it makes me tired.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

MJ said... 35

"You CAN be nice AND set boundaries!"

Amen! That's the mature, kind, and respectful way to live. But screwy thinking Kate doesn't understand that and goes thru life bullying others to get what she thinks she deserves.

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Absolutely.

Mel said...

Interesting about Kate claiming to be bullied.

That's exactly what my spouse, who is a Kate clone, claims when I try to stand up for myself. He's busy telling anyone who will listen that I bully *him*!

Sue Buddy said...

Fidosmommy, A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate, MJ, LaLaLandNoMore, Paper Plates Forever! Yay! ~~ Thank you so much for taking the time to read and comment.

I just saw a headline on my MSN homepage about Kate being bullied. My heart sank then I checked the article and of the 29 comments, 26 were negative. And they weren't from the "usual" non-fans. Keep digging, Kate.

localyocul said...

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said... 38
Spot on Sue Buddy......love it. My opinion about Kate thinking she was bullied? Translation: everyone is jealous of me. Jealous of my looks in high school and jealous of my fame and new money. Kate you idiot. Bullying and being jealous are two different things. And if you know anything about bullying, they say people bully because they are actually quite insecure. Not necessarily jealous. Her ego goes to the jealous place every time. She is so stupid it makes me tired

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I have a Facebook friend of whom I am quite jealous. Well, more envious. We went to HS together and were friends in Junior High more than high school but anyway, she seems to have it all. We are 45ish; she married very young and seems to be still very happily married with several grown children, all of whom are beautiful and seem very nice. She also has a young one at home. They seem well-off financially. Her blessings (or any other of my fb friends who have more than I do) has never ever tempted me to "bully" her out of jealousy. She was and seems to still be a very sweet, religious, lovely lady. Just because I married a toad, am divorced and financially strapped does not mean I have any inclination to "bully" this woman. No, Kate, it is your meanness, nastiness, and ingratitude that infuriates people, not your wealth or whatever else it is you think people are jealous of.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Somebody said that she thought Kate would learn from her mistakes, but she hasn't. That is because Kate does not believe she has made any mistakes.

Anonymous said...

@deannatweeting: @MiloandJack LOL I just told @kateplusmy8 that we need a spa day!!!

Didn't Kate just bog that she gets upset when paying bills? But a spa day with Deanna is okay.

Jane

Vanessa said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeY5TEVHaM

Unbelievable! Forgot just HOW much of a huge bitch she is! SHE was a victim of bullying? I think coupongate, gumgate, cupcakegate and allllllllll the other examples of her atrocious, disgusting repulsive behaviour need to be posted on all those sites. A little reminder and a sneek peek/trailer before Hoffman's book hits the shelves.

Amy2 said...

I've been checking around the internet to see what the comments are about Kate being bullied. Ha! Almost all of the comments say things likek SHE was the bully, SHE bullied her husband and others she came in contact with. The poor me bullied is backfiring.

Wonder what she's going to to come up with next.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Vanessa...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeY5TEVHaM

Unbelievable! Forgot just HOW much of a huge bitch she is! SHE was a victim of bullying?

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There should be no doubt after that video who the real bully is here.

gabby2 said...

Who could possible be jealous of a lonely women that is miserable 99% of her life?? Really....to be so mean to everyone around her it's because NOTHING makes her happy. Not even stealing another women's husband. Not a devoted husband of her own, not 8 beautiful kids...nothing.

Sleepless In Seattle said...


funbrandi
@Sue_Buddy @PimpMyKids @Kateplusmy8 Im just speechless! This freak googled me said im scamming & have several lastnames!? Had 1 last name!!

Kateplusmy8
@funbrandi and the two you just tweeted now are her friends... Block them too! (trust me on this)

Huh? To whom is she referring? Sue Buddy? I thought Kate didn't read the tweets from "haters."

Sleepless In Seattle said...

If someone tweeted this to me, I'd not only be embarrassed, but totally creeped out. Kate, however, just eats it up:

ljohnson2006
So much love for @Kateplusmy8 in the twitterverse today. Love triumphs hate ten thousand times over. We admire your strength Kate!

Kateplusmy8
@ljohnson2006 and I am blown last by your support! Thank you for your constant, true sensible and supportive words! Xoxo to you!

This same Milo-in-training tweeted this:

ljohnson2006
Jon gosselin was born on April fools day. How appropriate because his life is a joke

ljohnson2006
Guess the Kate Gosselin bullies can't take a joke. I wasn't bashing Jon Gosselin. Just making a joke about how he was born on April 1st

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


As a teacher, I deal with bullying almost every day. I teach second grade. It ranges from "He called me the S word" (stupid, LOL)

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Is this considered bullying now? I'm asking in seriousness. I agree with the other poster, I wouldn't really classify that particular example as bullying. In fact I would suggest that is normal kid behavior that happened to all of us and the most kids grow out of.

I don't consider myself bullied as a child, never. But I do recall some name calling in second or third grade, by all parties. Growing pains that we worked out and that stopped by the time elementary was over.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


"Fortunately, because most companies are accustomed to dealing with this sort of negative nonsense,

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Another point, plenty of people work as spokespeople with companies and never get any kind of negative comments or contact from the public. She acts like every face who works with a company gets this kind of negative feedback and it's simply not true. They may vey well expect it with her and know how to deal with it, but it doesn't mean it's common.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I know I've said it before, but who are these people?

xxxxxxxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 #nemo dropped snow up to my waist. I'm 5ft. Started reading your blog. The food shopping confuses me. Advise please

Sleepless In Seattle said...


Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 53

I know I've said it before, but who are these people?

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lol, Tweet-le. I just saw that and copied it. You beat me to it. I think that's the one who tweets every celebrity she can think of.

What does she want advice about? :) How to buy bacon and eggs in bulk?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's such a coincidence this bullying thing happens on the To Be and To Have thread, because there is a beautiful moment where the teacher Lopez talks a bully down and breaks him down into tears. Turns out the boy's father has cancer I think throat cancer and was anticipating surgery and the kid was distraught. Probably why he acted out at school.

Lopez knew there were reasons for everything, and although he didn't give the child a pass on bad behavior, he did take the time to understand him. Even if there is legitimate bullying going on, it pays to try to get to the root of the problem. My point is, it's not as simple as oh the bullies they are such bad horrible jealous people. Maybe that bully is not a jealous hater at all. Maybe it's just his dad has cancer.

JoyinVirginia said...

Anyone else watching college basketball tonight?. We are watching the Notre Dame- Louisville game, now in TRIPLE overtime. Unbelievable game!

fidosmommy said...

Brooke Shields appears on LaZboy ads. Does LaZboy
get negative press because Brooke has made some
questionable choices? I doubt it. Lots of famous people align themselves with companies to earn a paycheck and don't get negative responses.

fidosmommy said...

Oops, sorry Admin. I just said the exact same thing you did. I didn' t read carefully enough.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Fido don't apologize. You provided a great example! GMTA. Here's another. Sally Field has done several commercials for medication for years. I can't find hide nor hair of any suggestion the company is getting hate mail about it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I don't know how cheerleaders were chosen at Kate's private Christian school. In my public school, they were voted on by the student body. In other schools they are elected by a panel of judges - a coach, a teacher, and an administrator, for example.

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Really, wow. It's considered a sport similar to gymnastics and you have to try out at many schools now but either one makes the bullying claim suspicious.

Not saying it's never happened, but typically, athletic kids or kids popular enough to get elected to something aren't usually the ones whining about bullying.

I stick to my original theory, she wasn't bullied, she was disliked. Same as today.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Best line: Maybe you should rally your fans and encourage them to help kids who are really suffering from bullying instead of elbowing your way onto the bullying bandwagon and pushing off and devaluing the heartache of those who are truly experiencing the grief and distress of real bullying.

fidosmommy said...

Oh, they had to try out, but they were chosen because of ability and "peppiness". They had to be representatives of the school beyond reproach.
Anyone could try out, only the best made it. This
was in the '60's. Later it became a popularity contest and the character level declined. So, some schools went to the judging panel system. Private schools did it however they chose.

fidosmommy said...

I can think of one person who probably caused a ruckus when he did tv ads. Rush Limbaugh. He sold Snapple iced tea for a short time.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ah yes Rush Limbaugh. Who is deliberately polarizing and opinionated. It's not like he's just Farmer John milking his cows minding his own business drinking Snapple and randomly has haters.

That drives me up the wall Kate acts like who me I don't understand why all this hate! Please. She knows exactly what caused this.

fidosmommy said...

Are we sure she knows? Most adults have that little voice in their heads that helps them know when they are overstepping the line or bringing on their own troubles. Others don't.

I've shared before about an acquaintance of mine who believes every one of his woes, and they are legion, is the fault of his wife for divorcing him. He can't support himself or his children because she divorced him 12 years ago. He takes
zero responsibility for himself and survives by
telling everyone who will listen how he struggles financially, fully expecting them to open their wallets so he can pay his bills. All in the name of Christian compassion, donchaknow.

Sounds fairly familiar to me.

Unknown said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 64
''.........That drives me up the wall Kate acts like who me I don't understand why all this hate! Please. She knows exactly what caused this.''
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I disagree. I think that KK is so totally without self-awareness that she honestly has no idea why people disagree with her. In her mind the only reason anyone would disagree with her is because they must hate her....otherwise they would see that she is right, and would agree with her.

On the other hand....her fans understand the hate for KK, and that is why they try so hard to bully and stomp out any one that dare to see and speak up about the stuck on stupid waste of space that is KK.

Vanessa said...

If you were to actually get numbers, like the %of people, who dislike, are against, find disgusting, speak out on he behaviour etc..and then get a percentage of people who LOVE and "support" all of the above it would not reflect the percentage of bullies in real life (if you get what I'm saying) There are usually a handful of bullies that people come across. I don't think schools and the workplace are saturated with bullies. Maybe she should consider that what's happening is the Bullyville motto: 'Bulllies get bullied back'
Allll of these years of her thinking she's being bullied are people taking a stand AGAINST bullying. We are speaking up, speaking for the victims, those innocent children! It's the right thing to do! It's a duty to society. She put herself out there intentionally, the public is "reporting" what they see. We have been doing it since she first day she graced our tvs.
She IS a narcissist (I've had 2 in my life) therefore she IS a bully (and an abuser). They all go hand in hand.
Still waiting for her to comment/refute Hoffman's book...yeah didn't think so, I hear crickets where that's concerned.

Wowser said...

Ok...just scanned through Kate's twitter feed. You really need to be prepared to fight nausea when reading...these sheeple could NOT have watched any episodes of K+8! I threw up in my mouth a little at one tweet where Kate says she is thankful for her supporters like Deanna and Milo who truly know how awful her life has been from being bullied? Wtf?!? Oh, and my favorite?! When she says "I like to block the negative and use my energy in helping people in need" (not exact wording). WHEN THE HELL HAS KATE HELPED ANYONE IN NEED? The only person she thinks is "in need" is herself!

Goselin8ComeFirst said...

Hook 'em Horns 199- And the worst ones have parents who milk the attention, claiming they are outraged and the school is picking on their darling. Watch out for those kids in 10 years. ----------

And therin liesthe problem. When A & C were expelled from kindergarten, Kate chose to put a spin on it by blaming the "divorce." She never considered they were "mirroring" her horrible behavior, as kids often do so. More importantly, I hope both A & C got some counseling to address THEIR needs, as opposed to Kate trying to sweep it under the carpet- otherwise there will be 2 mini Kates who follow their mother's horrible examples of how to deal with stress, let alone any conflict in life.

Goselin8ComeFirst said...

Sue Buddy-5- Great article.

Kate, the ultimate bully, calls people out on bullying her, after telling her "twits" to ignore them. She craves attention, yet will not accept criticism. Sounds to me that she "can't take the heat, and needs to get out of the kitchen." Of course, she won't. Narcissist that she is.

This is all about her attempt at deflection with RH's book coming out. Poor me- victim. She is the proverbial fame whore "victim" who refuses to: 1)Go away for her kids' sake; and 2) Own her bad bullying behavior time and time again over the years. No one is buying her "victim" mode. It is actually quite offensive given her choices and ongoing behavior.

Goselin8ComeFirst said...

I'm sorry, but if you are still constantly putting yourself out there on TV, blogs, media, twitter etc.. as a celebrity, and are 37 years old with very self-serving, despicable, outright mean behaviors, at the expense of your own children, you are going to get criticism. Stop with this bullying platform - it is a disgrace. Time to grow up, face reality, and look out for your kids, instead of yourself Kate. You want attention, then complain about the outcome. Problem is NOT other people but rather YOUR self-centered, entitled, abusive, self serving behaviors Kate. Please get some help, as you refuse to see it, and therein lies the problem. Do it for your kids, as you are a horrible role model for the things that are important in life. You miss the mark every time. You are NOT a victim, you chose to be in the spotlight, with all all of your selfishness and mean behavior for all to see.

If you can't understand that, you should start living your life privately. You are NOT a victim in any way, shape or form. Disgraceful to even try that ploy.

Mel said...

I think The Stir might have put up with her lame blogs that are obvious lies and exaggerations, but her really stupid move of the Bullyville post might cause them to re-think their association with her.

Mel said...

What's left for her to blog about?
None of it is stuff she *actually* does. It's just stuff she *thinks* sounds like what regular moms do. But she doesn't nail it because it isn't what she really does.

What she doesn't get is that an honest post might actually be interesting.

How to get those coupons for free product that no one else gets.
Why you choose a hair color that looks so terrible.
Why you think long stringy greasy blond hair looks good on you
How did you come to choose Laverne and Shirley as attorneys.
Just exactly what was the scam on the Las Vegas run
How did you scam your running girls into that. Did you have to bribe them with something
How to hire a housekeeper
Do you use an agency or do you direct hire
What do you do when one chicken gets sick so it doesn't contaminate the others
How did you come to decide on DDDDD implants instead of B implants
Do they make your shoulders sore
Did the lipo accomplish what you thought it would
How long do Botox injections last
Was it scary the first time you injected yourself
What was the recovery like from the tummy tuck
Do you ever get tired of all the extra people in the house
Why do you hate the boys so much

The one I really want to know: Where is Shoka



Instead we'll have another: a convoluted laundry post, a change oil in the car post (no details cuz she didn't actually do it), maybe a homework post, a throw a bunch of canned goods together and call it gourmet post, and then she's done.
She can't think of anything else. Certainly nothing with any nuance.

Pity Party said...

I don't think I have seen anything that linked bullying to jealousy. I don't think anyone would be jealous of the child who doesn't fit in and sits alone. Based on my own experience without doing any research, I cannot fathom that an adult would be bullied. An adult has the tools to deal with such things and to change their mannerisms if need be and with time has either learned to fit into society, or has a disability, and never will at which point would anyone be jealous of that person.

I was at Wal-Mart once and went into the express lane with a couple of items more than I should have. The lady behind me kept bumping my cart with her cart that made my cart bump me. I laughed and said to the cashier, she is bumping me with her cart and turned to her and said it is okay, it will all be over soon. The lady shrugged her shoulders and ended up laughing with me. Was I being bullied? I think not. I was in the wrong and she called me on it in a rude way, that's all.

The man that took the child into the bunker was nicknamed Mean Man by the townspeople. He had threatened to shoot half the people in the town at one time or another, for minor infractions. The bus driver that he shot and killed in front of the children had been the one person in the entire town that had actually tried to befriend him. He was killed because he tried to protect the children by throwing the bus in reverse possibly causing the Mean Man to lose his footing and drop the gun (I presume). Was this man a bully? He may have been a bully as a child but at some point crossed over into the realm of mental illness/sociopath upon reaching adulthood.

I agree with KT's friends she needs a spa day and a vacation so she can regroup. I don't think this bully tack is working out very well.

kids first said...

All the negative attention she has gotten over this has been the final nail in her media career coffin.

Anonymous said...

KHate was bullied..pahlease!

I have been that new nerd on da chopping block.

One year I made it to cheerleader..yjp..4 2 hour lractices e ery wdek..brutal cuts, but I made it. Know what I did with that?

Kept my nerd friends..we were cooler by then.

Only in grade 7 when npd mother changed again our addy..and province did I see real bullying.

I was 12..new town..new province..new language...that was rough...but a few sweet kids took me undsr their si.g and helped me through the transition.

bullhing is real. Nkt a joke.

I lost 3 college friends fo suicide be ause of it.
kHatie Kreider can cry bully and kiss my ass..SueBuddy..spot on!

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LB said...

I would love to hear how Kate would explain how 2 of the children were kicked out of school for bullying others! To say they were doing wonderfully on Dr. Drew's show....doesn't tell the whole story.

Children that young don't decide to be a bully, it's a learned behavior, usually or caused by problems outside of school. At 5 or 6, I certainly wouldn't been able to think like a bully unless I grew up with someone who bullied, a friend, a sibling or a parent. I think they saw something....that you get what you want by doing certain things. Not sure why they did it at school but it came to bite Kate in the ass, didn't it?

FYI said...

Goselin8ComeFirst said... 69

"And therin liesthe problem. When A & C were expelled from kindergarten, Kate chose to put a spin on it by blaming the "divorce." She never considered they were "mirroring" her horrible behavior, as kids often do so."

I read an article dated 11/24/2010 titled "An Open Letter to Kate Gosselin", which talked about how she handled the kids' expulsion. An excerpt:

"But for the love of god, your kids are six years old and getting expelled from school. Something has gone horrible awry, and I think most parents in your shoes would be in a frenzy to figure out how to make things better. I'm sure you are too, right? I mean, I want to think that about you, Kate.

It's just hard to figure out why you're talking to the media—again—about the people in your life who you should be protecting at all measure. I can't understand why you're handing out excuses, and blaming everyone else for what your kids are going through.

You said,

"The pressure was getting to them. You have the divorce anger mixed in with that."

Listen, it's not that I think you should get on television and say that you blame yourself. It's more that I think you should do everything in your power to get the spotlight off your family for once. Get rid of the cameras. Work this through behind closed doors. Make it a priority to help your kids, who are clearly hurting."

Good advice to Kate-but I guess she would call that bullying too. Funny, because she now works for the website that posted it.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/113001/an_open_letter_to_kate


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

) There are usually a handful of bullies that people come across. I don't think schools and the workplace are saturated with bullies. Maybe she should consider that what's happening is the Bullyville motto: 'Bulllies get bullied back'
Allll of these years of her thinking she's being bullied are people taking a stand AGAINST bullying. We are speaking up, speaking for the victims, those innocent children! It's the right thing to do! It's a duty to society. She put herself out there intentionally, the public is "reporting" what they see. We have been doing it since she first day she graced our tvs.

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I have nothing to say except I agree!

Another sales ploy said...

Anyone remember the interviews Kate did in the garden area of a hotel somewhere, maybe during the Mom Blog convention, probably during her stint with CC?

I don't remember the specific details, but I distinctly remember her pseudo-apologetic demeanor. She was trying to wave away her past behavior & other people's perceptions of her by saying something like, "I've grown a lot since then. I've changed."

So yeah, that didn't go over so well. No one was buying what she tried to sell. Hence, this new tact: "I've been/am the victim of long-time bullying. Make it stooooop!" I think it's backfiring on her, too.

Anonymous said...

pressure getting to them" " divorce worry"! seriously?

no red flags kHate?

um..how about as a loving parent you talk to your children.

How about u let them have fun and know that whatever adults decide does not reflect on them

kHatie Kreider..u fail again

#kHatiekreiderisafailure

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know what's crazy, I actually think she would get a ton of press and attention if she came out and said look, I was a bully, or I am a bully. This is why I bullied (because it made me feel powerful, because I was upset about this or that in my life, because of my childhood). This is the how and why of the moment I realized I was a bully and needed to change. This is how I'm changing (therapy, or whatever).

Now THAT would get picked up by more mainstream tabloid sites, if she were just honest about it. And at least I could respect that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I disagree. I think that KK is so totally without self-awareness that she honestly has no idea why people disagree with her.

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I'm still up in the air on this. If she weren't self-aware, then why is she so defensive all the time? She would have no need to make all these pre-emptive attacks unless she knew full well what people are saying and going to say. I think she knows who she is but has built an entire empire on a woman who doesn't exist.

localyocul said...

Sara Ganin is a young reporter and Penn State Alumn who won a Pulitzer for basically breaking the Sandusky story wide open. This morning the Paterno family released their own report..anyway Sara Ganin retweeted this:

xxxxxxx ‏@xxxxx
@sganim you are a #HACK... DEAL WITH IT!!! LEAVE PA AND DON'T COME BACK #Bxxxx

My point is, she realizes her reporting will be polarizing and instead of moaning and groaning about being bullied she simply retweets one. I've seen a lot of celebrities do this..in a way they are making fun of themselves but it also takes away the power of those throwning these tweets at them. That's exactly how I would handle it I think. Problem is, Kate can't retweet things like "you have a fulltime Nanny and housekeeper" because they are true and blow here cover.

localyocul said...

*her cover, not here cover

Dmasy said...

She woke up this morning. First thought, what excuse for not going to church today. Second thought, how do I spin how many (if any) kids are with me this weekend. Third thought, do I try to condition my dried out hair again this afternoon. Fourth thought, how many miles will I say I ran today. Fifth thought, I wonder what I can thaw for a gourmet dinner tonight.

Her life is a fraud. She is exhausted from hiding behind her elaborate curtain of lies.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My point is, she realizes her reporting will be polarizing and instead of moaning and groaning about being bullied she simply retweets one. I've seen a lot of celebrities do this..in a way they are making fun of themselves but it also takes away the power of those throwning these tweets at them. That's exactly how I would handle it I think.

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That's a clever way to deal with it, just spit it right back. Takes the power away. I looked her up, she's only 25 years old. A pulitzer prize winner and good sense enough to know how to deal with negative feedback.

Here's the thing, if you are going to blow the whistle on an institution like that of course people are going to be upset. If you don't like it, journalism is not for you. I'm sure this gal knows full well what she is getting into and consents to it. Same with celebrities, especially if you're going to build your empire on being a mother. Don't like the heat get out of the kitchen. Plenty of things you can do that won't garner criticism from anyone but your immediate supervisor.

On another note, sometimes I lose faith in humanity that so many people still can't accept that those boys were molested, repeatedly, for years, and that many people did not help them. We really have not come as far as I had hoped when it comes to our kids. I still cannot believe that principal who told him to just go home not only still has her license but is still teaching!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She has labeled everyone and anyone who does not agree with her.

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Why do I have this funny image of Kate tapping out on her fourth pink label maker "BULLY!" and pasting it on each of our foreheads one by one? LOL

But seriously, labeling is easy. There, there's your label, now be gone with you. If you label, you don't need to ever actually address the other side's (good) points.

FYI said...

kateplusmy8
Getting ready2do some errands&kid activity drop offs!Thinking about what2pack for school lunches/make4dinner 2! Kate's restaurant is open!:)

Dmasy-you almost got it right. But now she's not even offering an excuse why they didn't go to church. Oh--maybe she did--she's just so darn busy, busy, busy.

FYI said...

Apparently, Bullyville is not letting any negative comments about Kate, so of course, all the comments are agreeing with her being bullied. This one comment, however, just really made me shake my head, because it really shows how some people don't get it.

"Bullying is never ok, perhaps you should talk to the tv shows that always show you angry and screaming at someone, they are the guilty ones who portray you in such a bad light"

Huh? Blame the tv shows that show her in a bad light? Don't they realize that if Kate didn't get angry and do all the screaming, that they'd have nothing to show? So by showing the true Kate, they are the bullies?

Typical sheeple response--blame the messenger, not the person responsible.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Admin, no, the "S" word (stupid) is not considered bullying. I was just illustrating the continuum on which children come and tell the teacher about things. With the "S" word, we'd have those children work it out among themselves. But sometimes, it becomes a pattern of behavior from one child to another. Stupid, Dumb, Ugly are not bullying if it is a one time deal, but on a daily or hourly basis it crosses the line. The key factor is the child to whom the comments are directed. Hurt feelings one day? No big deal. A change in behavior, grades, or a sudden need to see the nurse every day at recess time? Intervention is needed. When I first started teaching, I tried to solve every little problem. Silly me. Now, after 27 years, I know to only handle necessary ones.

Tucker's Mom said...

Well, one thing about Kate's latest boohoo bully rant is that is explains a lot about her preoccupation with her looks. If she was bullied during her "ugly duckling" adolescence, it would lead to all the work she's had done and her eating disorder.
The potential bullying that Kate (and Jon) have left their kids wide open to is staggering. Yet, it's allaboutkate.com, 24/7.
I was watching an episode of The New Normal recently and the little girl, Shania, was getting bullied by the mean girls at school. The meanies posted a pic on their Facebook and said it was Shania pooping on the toilet. You couldn't see the kid's face in the photo, but they said it was Shania and called her "Debbie Dumper".
With all the potty training, nudity, poop and puke that those kids have exposed, there's no way they're going to skate by without getting bullied.

PatK said...

I was just thinking about how appropos it would be if Robert Hoffman's book was re-released on Kate's birthday.

JoyinVirginia said...

Sue Buddy, love your article!
Mel, in post 273 you nailed it. Ms Kreider bogs about what she thinks typical moms do, instead of reality.
Fidosmommy, I also have known people like your acquaintance, who continue to expect others to support them, and use the excuse of something happening years ago, like a divorce. Never even considering that they have any responsibility.
Dmasy, I laughed reading your post. That could so easily be what Ms Kreider really thinks about!
Ms Kreider is still boring. Her tits bog is recycling old CC bog topics. Her bully claims are just ludicrous.
What is NOT bring is college basketball. The Notre Dame - Louisville game last night went into FIVE OVERTIME PERIODS, according to the announcer stats, that has only happened five times before in NCAA basketball. Fabulous game, and the irony is the best playing happened AFTER Notre Dame s best player fouled out. Some guys who had sat on the bench all game got to go on the floor, and they were on fire!
Hope everyone affected by the northeast blizzard is safe.
Admin, what's the status of the manhunt out in Big Bear? Are y'all still on lockdown? How everyone is safe there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admin, what's the status of the manhunt out in Big Bear? Are y'all still on lockdown? How everyone is safe there.

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Nothing much new that I see, the man simply vanished into thin air.

50 families are being protected by police right now, there are multiple connections, therefore police protection will be in place at work Monday, hopefully back to normal finally. Going a bit stir crazy.

Blowing In The Wind said...


"Bullying is never ok, perhaps you should talk to the tv shows that always show you angry and screaming at someone, they are the guilty ones who portray you in such a bad light"

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THEY are the guilty ones? Well, hell's bells...if you're always angry and screaming, isn't that the way you are? Kate always said that what you see is what you get...that this is the way she is. She wanted the realist reality show out there, and she got it. The television shows aren't portraying her in a bad light. They are showing her in a "real" light, and if that means that she's angry and screaming, then that's the way that she is.

There is no such thing as sheeple logic. The wool is always over their eyes. I was wondering, though, about some of the fans who seem kind of "normal." She does have some followers who appear to be nice, reasonable people who don't get into the hater-sheeple war.

Aside from Milo and her assistant in training who are so delusional that everything Kate does is right, don't these other ones ever question some of the things she says, like the toilet paper usage, the exaggeration of the bacon, egg and bread breakfast, the sweating over bill paying when you have a million dollar house, two dishwashers, the trips to NYC, etc. and sit down and say, "wait...is that possible? Something doesn't make sense there." Can they see the lies, exaggerations and embellishments that she puts forth, know there's something that doesn't add up, but keep it to themselves and not question her?

There are so many teenage fans who want to grow up to be just like her, and those would never question anything she does, but a few of them are adults, parents, who seem to have the intelligence and reasoning ability to logically think through some of things that Kate says and does. Yet, they still stick with her. Why?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's akin to those people who say, oh you were raped? Well you shouldn't have dressed so sexy then.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Ms Kreider is still boring. Her tits bog is recycling old CC bog topics. Her bully claims are just ludicrous

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What is a tits bog? :)

Somewhere In Time said...

Someone asked why her classmates/friends from middle school don't come out and make comments about her bullying when they knew her way back when. The answer is...because they are smart and want to stay out of this whole mess! If they read blogs, Twitter, etc., then they are aware of the Master Detective and the underling sheeplets and what they would do to hunt them down if they reported that there was no bullying. Who would want to get caught up in that mess?

When in doubt, stay OUT!

Hook 'em Horns said...

For those of you that are parents...if your child complains MORE THAN ONCE about someone "being mean" please email the teacher. We make fun of parents for some things, but that is NEVER one of them. Bullying does not happen in the classroom. It happens at recess, in the lunch line, in the bathroom. We take parent emails on that seriously, and print them out and save them in a file. Also, Admin, I think a good documentary to add is Waiting for Superman. I don't agree with all of it (charter school do not perform that much better than public schools, and some are much worse) but it is a powerful movie.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I was going to include Waiting for Superman as well as Race to Nowhere but I didn't want to endorse anything too controversial and derail the thread. Instead I went for more of the "feel good" hopeful look at education.

Up The Down Staircase said...

We make fun of parents for some things, but that is NEVER one of them.

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Teachers make fun of parents? To whom? Other teachers? For what things? Do the parents know this?

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate's The Stir blog is just the same old stuff she's said over and over again. She's been asked and answered about the volume of food she goes through. Does she forget that her show highlighted her shopping and cooking all the darn time?
We get it! Find some new material.
And maybe once she could mention that they have a father?
Oh, and I'm soooo jellus of Kate's arms. I can just see her kissing her biceps.

Melissa NV said...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 Don't try 2undermine how I feel...I have my OWN unique experience w/Kate! She's been nothing but kind & trustworthy!

Good gawd. She has her OWN experience? Most likely not the kind she would like to have, but nevertheless, this person really has serious mental issues. I'm telling you -- this is not going to end well. I can feel it in my bones!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Milo admits she's given Kate free stuff, many times. She's constantly asking Kate if she received a package. Of course Kate is nice to her, that gravy train is rolling down the track.

How can she be sure ANYTHING Kate says or does for her is sincere? I would really question a "friendship" where I have to pay into it to maybe have a shot at keeping it going. Slot machines are not "friendships."

Hook 'em Horns said...

Yes, teachers make fun of parents. Helicopter parents are a favorite..."Johnny made a 98 on the math test. Can he do extra credit to make up the two points?" Parents sometimes have an unrealistic view of their child, as in "Are you going to nominate him for the gifted program?" Another fun one is the behavior issued child, whose bad behavior is blamed on the fact that he is gifted, thus bored. A true gifted child will never be bored. The will always be reading, drawing, writing, researching. When we were doing tally marks at the beginning of the year, my class tallied how many choices of activities we had in the room, if work was finished. We tallied 96 things. And my room is not unusual. Parents like Kate? Snickers, yes. Reasonable parents, who are supportive and an advocate for their child but not over the top, and who do not expect others to think the world revolves around their precious, are the ones whose kids are most coveted when class lists come out.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Oh, and class lists? They are reviewed not only for the children, but for the parents. As in, "Oh, you got Sally? She's not bad, but watch out for Mom. She's CRAZY." I forgot one. I good way to be made fun of in the teacher's lounge is to CARRY your second grader to class, with YOU wearing her backpack, and spend five minutes waving good-bye and blowing kisses. Don't do that.

kris said...

She cracks me up, 12 loads a week. That's roughly 2 loads a day, SHE HAS 2 WASHERS - BIG DEAL! She's a SAHM, how much time can it take to wash & dry 2 loads? Try having to work 40 hrs a wk, commute, come home, deal with homework, baths, dinner AND 2 loads of laundry in the evening?

This should be her blog "Yes I have a busy life but I am blessed beyond extreme" THE END. No, whoa is me, no I'm so busy, no I do it all alone. Just shut up and be thankful and grateful!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It makes me uncomfortable this idea of teachers sitting around the round table poking fun of parents and calling certain ones crazy. This really happens?? I understand the frustrations I guess but I thought they were supposed to be professional. Am I the only one? They are not the only profession that has to deal with "crazies," not by a long shot. Any type of "service" type profession will deal with difficult people. No matter how crazy a parent, patient, customer or client is, I feel like you should show them basic respect by not making fun.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Also, try not to earn a "nickname" as a parent. Stalker Mom (she took pictures of all the science fair projects and presented a powerpoint to the school board on why her child should have won, among other things) Funeral Dad (always wears black, never smiles, looks for things to complain about), Hallway Mom (aforementioned child carrier), Psycho Mom (OH MY GOD), etc. These nicknames take shape in kinder, and tend to remain in place all through elem. OH! I forgot...CIA MOM. She volunteered to help in classrooms, and looked through all the file cabinets and gradebooks. She read parent notes to teachers. Most people would be shocked at the kind of parents that are out there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well, I am shocked, I have to say. Really shocked.

Hook em, do these teachers feel bad about getting their sh&ts and giggles off all this? I always hear teachers saying they want parents to respect them, but if what you say is really what is going on, how can they be so hypocritical?

Hook 'em Horns said...

Sorry, Admin, but we are human. I'm pretty sure other professions do it also...doctors, lawyers, etc. It helps us let off steam and takes the edge off to vent and laugh with colleagues. This is a whole blog dedicated to one woman. Pretty sure she's talked about in less than glowing terms in the lounge. And we do show them respect, and are professional, when dealing with them in person. If you are not one of the Kates of the world, there are no issues.

handinhand said...

Another sales ploy said... 80
Anyone remember the interviews Kate did in the garden area of a hotel somewhere, maybe during the Mom Blog convention, probably during her stint with CC?
I don't remember the specific details, but I distinctly remember her pseudo-apologetic demeanor. She was trying to wave away her past behavior & other people's perceptions of her by saying something like, "I've grown a lot since then. I've changed."
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Is it one of these?

http://watch.accesshollywood.com/video/kate-gosselin-talks-dealing-with-stress:-how-does-running-help/1897478610001

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jokes are human nature yeah. I mean, I see the humor in situations, but making fun of clients? The nicknames, the reading things to others for the purpose of making fun. No, we don't. I just don't find any value in that. Sometimes you are the ONLY person in their corner, you are ALL they have. If even you are against them what is the point? Besides I just don't see it as all that funny. Usually it's sad, not funny. Maybe my sense of humor is off.
Wise cracks at other attorneys? Now that's another matter. :)

It's just astounding to me that teachers who are the first to try to stop bullying, are bullying in the teacher lounge!. Are you SURE this is the norm?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Hook em, do these teachers feel bad about getting their sh&ts and giggles off all this? I always hear teachers saying they want parents to respect them, but if what you say is really what is going on, how can they be so hypocritical?

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I total agree, admin. One hundred percent. It's not professional. You're teaching kids NOT to make fun of other children, and yet teachers do it and use the excuse that they are "human." The kids are human, too...why is it right for teachers to make fun of others, but wrong for kids to do this?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is a whole blog dedicated to one woman. Pretty sure she's talked about in less than glowing terms in the lounge.

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Well, Kate is a public figure. If she were just a random person this blog wouldn't exist. She's not a public figure when it comes to their schooling. IF they are talking about her in the lounge, which I still find hard to believe, maybe they should consider confronting her with their issues?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Blowing, yes. If teachers feel it's okay to make fun of parents then I say they should just let kids bully. Apparently they're going to do it as adults anyway. I really don't think lots of people are doing this. I mean, I've rarely seen it and I've been working in service based industries since 18. I wouldn't want to do business with anyone who can't hold their tongues about those they do business with. Actually, I see it as a red flag. If you're making fun of others, I suppose I'm next.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Admin, I think you are a reasonable person. You would never present a powerpoint of other children's science fair boards arguing the judging was unfair. The parents you speak of...the ones for whom we are the only ones in their corner? Those are NOT the parents I'm talking about. The ones you say we are "bullying?" Those are parents who are bullies themselves. Those are the parents of children who I get emails about from OTHER parents. Those are the parents who, when confronted with a pattern of behavior, make excuses and look elsewhere for blame. I'm talking about a few parents in a school of 700. It is not out of control. We are way too busy to make it a regular thing! But yes, it has happened in every school, district, and state I've been in. A few parents, not many. And they are bullies themselves. We are NOT "picking on" anyone. Your child, and probably most people on this blog are talked about like this: "OH! You got Sally! Her mom is WONDERFUL. She will help you in any way she can." Or like this: "OH! You got Ben! He can be a little disruptive, but Mom and Dad are GREAT. Just email them, and they take care of it." Or maybe: "Jack is a great kid. His mom is a singe mom who works two jobs, so I let him stay after school and use an iPad because she couldn't get off work right when school end." So, lest you think we are evil, no, we are quite the opposite. But, there are THOSE parents. Sorry. There just are.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think nicknaming parents isn't all that bad. It probably diffuses stress, so I'm not going to pile on to our resident teacher here. It's not optimally professional, but we're all human.
Please don't tell me there's a Breastfeeding Mom ;-)
Kate would be Tanning Mom. Oh, that's taken.

HHpuff said...

I have no issues with teachers discussing parents. Its part of their job to pinpoint problems or issuews and they are usually found with the parent.

Truth hurts but its not as if they are putting out a newsletter about parents. I've never been called a client by any teacher. My children are pupils and I'm their mother. *I* didn't hire any teacher tio perform a service.

Hook em, sorry you are getting slammed for telling the truth. You don't deserve it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hook em wasn't "slammed" that I see. I don't doubt she's telling the truth and appreciate her sharing the truth, I'm just shocked by it and don't agree with it. If a parent found out they had a nickname, and these things have a way of getting found out, that teacher could be fired and you have to admit the cries of hypocrisy would be deafening. I get that we're all human and what with everything going on now, humans need to relieve stress somehow. I just wish it wasn't this way.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Thank you, Tucker's Mom! I really don't think anyone here would feel sorry to find out that Kate has a nickname. D List Mom? Or that the staff rolls their eyes when talking about her. Again, NOT BULLYING PARENTS. These are parents you can't confront with the issue because they will make your life a living hell. And let me be clear, again, I'm not talking about many parents. AND.......we don't make fun of the CHILDREN. That WOULD be horrid. I've never seen that, in all my years. Generally, the children of parents like that are treated especially tenderly, as we tend to feel sad for them.

Hook 'em Horns said...

And we have been decrying that Kate says she is being/has been bullied. We are saying she has not, that SHE is the bully. THAT is what I'm talking about. Just because Kate is a public figure and others are not does not make the behavior different. We do not bully parents. We let off steam about the Kates of the world, and try to handle her the best we can.

Tucker's Mom said...

From reading Kate's journal in Robert's book, I can say that the respect sure doesn't go from Kate to the teachers. In fact, she was downright mean.

Formerly Duped said...

I believe what Hook 'em says. As a nurse, we would talk about patients and parents and divvy them up sometimes for care according to 'issues' but only in private and never in front of anyone not involved with their care. I would bet this happens in every profession. My friends mention things that go on in their workplaces about clients ( no names of course.) It is human nature. A bully can make fun of another child too, but until that child is affected you can't really complain.

Hook 'em Horns said...

One more illustration, and then I'll let it die. Promise! The Hallway Mom I mentioned? She carries her child? She belongs to a teammate. Teammate has been teaching five years, no kids. She had a conference with Hallway Mom where she gingerly tried to address the fact that the child was being made fun of.....the other children were calling her a baby, and perhaps she might want to let her walk down the hall? (Hallway Mom also waits outside the classroom door after school, which is not protocol but she checks in to the office and gets a visitor's badge, and puts on the child's backpack and carries her all the way to the car). For her troubles, my teammate now has an angry parent accused her of trying to parent, not just teach, and how can she parent? She has no chidren! Hallway Mom wrote a letter to the admin about it, and posted on Facebook. She followed the class out and confronted other parents about their child being mean to her baby (while holding her "baby") and that made OTHER parents angry, as it would anybody. It has now reached critical mass, and is taking away valuable teaching/planning time from my teammate who is often in tears over it all. So, what was funny in kinder (where Mom first got her nickname) and in first, and at the beginning of second is now anything but. And the worst thing of all is the helpless child in the middle. I only tell this story to illustrate what we face in some parents. THOSE are the ones talked about. I will end now, and hope I have not done irreparable harm to school teachers.

Mel said...

I think it happens in all industries. Just a way of letting off steam. As long as it stays in the lounge/office/fire hall/whatever, no harm.

I do have to say that I couldn't have been more impressed with a grandchild's school re: bullying. The kid had been talked to before about the behavior, it turns out. My daughter/sil had no idea this was happening and were horrified when I told them what I had observed.
The kid's parents were pretty unhappy when he was moved to a different classroom the next day, and not allowed to be in the hallway/bathroom/recess unescorted by an adult.
I was so happy to see the school take care it so quickly. Turns out what I saw was the last straw with the kid. And...the school offered counseling for the granddaughter to help her learn how to better handle that kind of crap.

Martha said...

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If I had volunteers coming into my house to "help" me, I would probably be known as a mean person. I know at the inception of Hospice, volunteers came(non paid) to my mother's room and read her chart at the bottom of the bed, looked under her blanket at her injuries. One day I came in and two women were discussing my mother, unknown to them, I was her daughter, they assumed I was another volunteer and I was so upset. I told them off and then went to the Dir of Nursing at the facility and read them the riot at about "volunteers" have free reign at the Hospice facility, then I wrote a blasting letter, when I received no letter back from the facility CEO, I wrote a letter to the local newspaper, it became an editorial and the county district attys office having read my article investigated the facility and their lack of guidelines for volunteers. These volunteers, may have meant well, but going thru my mother's closet, drawers, lifting her blankets up, reading her chart is not for volunteers. Some volunteers get carried away with power and think they can open your refrigerator door, open any door they want. Volunteers have to be supervised and that is extremely stressful for a new mother and father who are finding their own way with 6 babies. So having had surgery to have the babies removed, hormones going crazy and then the onslaught of the "do gooders" who are what? There to help? There to find out what is happening and repeating it, really there to take supervised instructions of what to do and not to do, etc. I could go on and on with this. All those people who "helped" may sometimes be volunteers for the wrong reason. This facility I speak of was fined by the State, their volunteer program was eliminated for a period of time, then a written mission statement, a guide book, signing a statement about privacy, etc., was all put together. Now this is 15 yrs ago but it still makes my blood boil that some people who were perhaps having great thoughts of "helping" were just killing time walking around being sunshine when I was sitting by my mother, except for a few hours one day, as she drifted off into Heaven and I wanted all the dignity that I had paid for and you do pay $$ for dignity in a Hospice Center anywhere. Promises of it would be like dying at home, with dignity and all the care was defaulted upon.


We tend to forget how we would act in certain situations the teacher above and her method of teaching, sometimes some kids only understand tough love and it works, the kids learn, they can get a job when they graduate and support themselves and a family. There is nothing more rewarding than to see a child/teenager who thinks there is no future suddenly with the help of one teacher finding that they are important, they matter, they have a brain, they are not without a future. Kudos to that woman. Many a teacher mentored with tough love because the students did not hear anything a person in a supervisory role, so she found a way to reach those kids. God Bless Her.

Happy Valentine's Day to all of you and those you love, those who love you and the many friendships you have made on this blog.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Sorry! One more! Then THE END. All of you who are saying we should not do that to parents? We don't do it to YOU. But a lot of work goes on behind the scenes that teachers would never admit to, to protect you and your child from those parents. And if you ask your child's teacher about it, they will smile, look innocent or maybe outraged, and deny, deny, deny. LOL.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hook 'em Horns said... 126
*****
Wow. Sounds like Hallway Mom has a lot of anxiety issues. I feel for the kid too. Yikes. You can't fix stupid, eh?
You're not giving teachers a bad name!

Dutch Tulip said...

Hook 'em Horns said... 126
No, you haven't, I just think you teachers should earn a lot more money!
By the way, a great site for you is this one:
http://www.stfuparentsblog.com/

FYI said...

Kate retweeted this from Bullyville. It sound more like she was talking about herself.

bullyville
Don't consider it true just because it is written for a liar who will deceive with his tongue will not hesitate to do the same with his pen.

Oh, and she DID have an excuse why they didn't go to church after being asked by on of her fans if they still go to church:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@xxxxx yes we do but also missed it today: one recovering and also sports this afternoon :(

But she can run errands, drop kids off at "activities"--is the sick child going with her while she does this? Sports in the afternoon--that's an excuse not to go to church in the morning?

And none of her fans ever question her about her obvious lies and excuses.




A MOM said...

On tweeter Kate was asked if the family coming back to TV. Kate's answer was "yep"! Wonder if thats wishful thinking or actual??????????????

Med students, doctors, & nurses talk too said...

If you have a problem with what teachers say about certain parents in private behind closed doors, you would be really, really shocked to hear what goes on in hospitals!

gabby2 said...

I wonder what Krazy will say after Stir cans her ass. boohoo??

localyocul said...

Ruh Roh


RKOs_QueenV @Kateplusmy8 I miss seeing you & your beautiful family on TV each week. Any chance we'll see you again in the future!? :) #HappySunday

@RKOs_QueenV yep

A MOM said...

On tweeter Kate was asked if the family coming back to TV. Kate's answer was "yep"! Wonder if thats wishful thinking or actual??????????????

Hook 'em Horns said...

Martha, GOOD FOR YOU! That is called "Being an Advocate." Remember, I started by telling folks to be an advocate for their child, and to email teachers if their child is stating someone is being mean to him/her. I made an offhand comment about how we may giggle at parents, but we NEVER giggle at that...we print it out, save it to a file, and intervene. My offhand comment was pounced on, but my POINT was to be an advocate. There is a big difference.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Dutch Tulip, I can't wait to check out that website. And Martha, I have also seen parents in the right and teachers in the wrong. That happens, too. But I just responded to a very respectful email from a dad who just checked his son's grades online and he had a 60 for the last spelling test, but he was looking at the test that was sent home and it had a 90 on it. YIKES! When entering grades, I hit a 6 instead of a 9. That parent is an ADVOCATE. He also follows directions, because I BEG my parents to check grades online and compare to the work that comes home!

Tucker's Mom said...

A MOM said... 133
On tweeter Kate was asked if the family coming back to TV. Kate's answer was "yep"! Wonder if thats wishful thinking or actual??????????????
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Kate just pens this boohoo missive about being bullied, especially after getting infamous with her TLC shows etc, and she wants to put her kids back out there.
Amazing.

localyocul said...

The weird thing is none of her fans jumped on her "yep" tweet. Her feed really is dead. Mostly Milo talking to herself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Mom, where's that tweet? How did it go from maybe to yep in two days?

I did see where she said she has 60% of the kids this weekend and was complaining it was supposed to be her weekend off. Poor thing.

Also 60 percent of 8 is 4.8.

fidosmommy said...

In a nursing home here they have dubbed The Screamer, the Wanderer, the Yeller and the
Thrower. They also have Ms. Sweetheart, Mr.
Helpful and Ms. Crafty who loves the job of sorting out small beads for art projects.

Sherry Baby said...

I did see where she said she has 60% of the kids this weekend and was complaining it was supposed to be her weekend off. Poor thing.

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Poor thing indeed. She wanted these kids, she's alone for nine hours a day, five days a week, and she's fussing that she has no weekend off. Aw, too bad. You get what you get and you don't get upset.

localyocul said...

Admin I copied it up at #136

Sherry Baby said...

Her feed really is dead. Mostly Milo talking to herself.

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I have a feeling that Milo talks to herself a lot. Can you imagine living in a house with her? Her family probably just tunes her out.

localyocul said...

Technically the tweeter said he missed "you and your beautiful family" and "is there a chance we'll see YOU again." So maybe it's just herself she's yepping about. Probably to push this antibullying thing. Last night htere was something on (ET or such) and I caught a snippet about a young lady that has a rare condition that causes disfigurement she's beautiful to me) and as bullied and she is taking part in an anti-bullying documentary. Then they showed Leann Rimes and some other celebs and I got a really really sick feeling that K8 is going to be part of that. Blech.

Sherry Baby said...

If you have a problem with what teachers say about certain parents in private behind closed doors, you would be really, really shocked to hear what goes on in hospitals!

______________________
You're comparing apples and oranges. Hospital employees are not teaching children not to make fun of others or talk about others. In the case of teachers, you set by example. What is it teaching our children when teachers make fun of parents? Do as I say, not as I do? What if the parents find out they are the butt of jokes? What does that say about the parent-teacher relationship?

JoyinVirginia said...

Hook 'em Horns, I understand your perspective. It is not making fun of parents, it is identifying potentially disruptive individuals in advance. You wouldn't want Gossip Mom to be allowed to volunteer in the school office or clinic where she might have access to medical info. Hallway Mom might not be the best person to ask to be on a PTA committee. I've been on PTA committees was told things in a tactful way ”ms. ABC may not be the most tactful person, you would probably have an easier job getting more volunteers if you ask some of the first grade parents.” When they can t say ”Ms. ABC has complained about most of the other children in her childs class, and parents talk, so no one will help with the book fair if she is on the committee, they want to stay away from her.”
Re health care, conversations take place in care planning meetings to help meet the needs of the patient without throwing any staff into bad situations. Many, many years ago... ”Mr. Jones family is just complaining about every little thing, we need someone very patient to handle them, Joy can you work with him this week. They seem to like you a little better because your mother goes to church with his aunt.” (yes, and my mother says his aunt says that this branch of the family just thinks they are better than anyone else).
The above scenarios, while based on fact, have been altered to protect the confidentiality of the innocent bystanders.

A Mom said...

Administrator; hopefully you will find out more if Kate Gosselin is telling truth about another Tv show, or another one of her many lies or one of her wishes. We here enjoy your expert advice and knownledge.

PatK said...

I wonder if the Mom Swap thing got the green light and that is what her "yep" is all about.

Either that or the Christmas vacation was paid for and filmed.

In any event, I hope it's a one-time deal. I just don't see her or the kids being a big deal anymore to anyone other than a few hundred people.

Making it up as she goes along said...

Read between the lines. There's "a chance," always a chance that she'll be back on TV. But c'mon, the likelihood isn't all that great.

@XXXXXXX @Kateplusmy8 I miss seeing you & your beautiful family on TV each week. Any chance we'll see you again in the future!? :) #HappySunday

To which Kate responded:
@XXXXXXX yep


A Mom said...

A Mom said...Administrator; hopefully you will find out more if Kate Gosselin is telling truth about another Tv show, or another one of her many lies or one of her wishes. We here enjoy your expert advice and knownledge

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A mom, unfortunately I have no way of knowing anymore than you do. I guess time will tell. We should keep in mind this is Kate's MO, tease, hint, imply,, but 99 percent of the time absolutely nothing comes of it.

Formerly Duped said...

She said ' a chance' so I guess that's true...but It likely won't happen.

FYI said...

Well, the actual question was " Any chance we'll see you again in the future!?"

Yes, we'll see her column at the Stir, we'll see more stories about how she isn't being bullied, we'll see stories about her Robert's book comes out again.

So yes, we will be seeing her in the future, but not necessarily on TV.

Pau 16 said...

admin said..."I wouldn't want to do business with anyone who can't hold their tongues about those they do business with. Actually, I see it as a red flag. If you're making fun of others, I suppose I'm next."

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I agree. If, as a parent, I found out that my child's teacher was "making fun" of me, or talking in a negative way about me, I'd feel really uncomfortable having a conference with that teacher because I wouldn't know what was being said about me to other teachers when I left. If that's a way of dealing with stress and letting off steam, it would seem to me that there are plenty of other ways to do this. I'm sorry, too, it is this way.


handinhand said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 142

I did see where she said she has 60% of the kids this weekend and was complaining it was supposed to be her weekend off. Poor thing.
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Which is precisely why she used the day to run errands (when she has countless hours to do as much while the kids are away at school).
Kids home = Kate gone.

Just Down The Road said...

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Is it still so blisterin cold there? I saw those wind chill temps..insane! Don't know how U folks breathe N that!!

No, Milo. It was 45 today and no wind. I'm sure Kate is breathin just fine. Get a grip.

Tucker's Mom said...

I agree that the timing of all this bullying bs from Kate's camp is in anticipation of Robert's book being released again. Kate will paint herself as a victim and I can see another media tour for the rebranded Kate: Kate The Bullied.
I also feel her surprise at how people contact companies that align with her is feigned. People have every right to voice their displeasure over a company spokesperson. It's not bullying to do so. It's also not a conspiracy, and merely reflects how overwhelmingly negatively Kate is perceived.
All of this turning the haters into motivation and sunshine is pure crap. There is simply too much footage of Kate being negative, mean, snide and demanding. And, being a bully.
Can we sue? Nah, that's not bullying.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

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Which is precisely why she used the day to run errands (when she has countless hours to do as much while the kids are away at school).
Kids home = Kate gone.

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And to tweet soooo much, after scrolling and scrolling on my phone I gave up on finding the "yep" tweet about seeing her again. Thankfully fido posted it here.

Melissa NV said...

Kate is a twit said... 156

Well, the actual question was " Any chance we'll see you again in the future!?"

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Where did this tweet, "yep" come from in response to seeing her on television? Who posted that she tweeted this?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

1 million dollar reward for Christopher Dorner.

Reminds me of that line in Ransom, "Do you know anyone that wouldn't turn you in for two million dollars? I don't think you do. I doubt it."

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 162
1 million dollar reward for Christopher Dorner.
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Does anyone else think this might go very wrong? You're going to have the Wild Wild West.

fidosmommy said...

Thankfully fido posted it here.

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Nope, not Fidosmommy. Somebody else. I wouldn't take the time to look up anything much on Kate's twitter. But I'm glad somebody will do it.

MJ said...

"Kate says that she deals with the haters by ignoring them, mostly, and walking around thinking that everyone is jealous of her and since she can’t help being so wonderful, she’ll just have to take pity on those less fortunate and “wish for them a better and happier life”. Oh, f-ck off, Kate Gosselin. You’re apiss poor mother who’s more concerned with making money off your fertility mishaps than raising them to have the “better and happier life” you use as a sound bite in the press."

http://www.evilbeetgossip.com/2013/02/10/poor-kate-gosselin-is-the-victim-of-adult-bullying/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Wow is this bullying thing ever backfiring. No one is buying this.

FYI said...

wonderwall.msn.com and also usmagazine.com(US weekly), also have posted the story, just giving excerpts from Kate's article. 99% of the comments on both are negative, calling Kate out for being the one that bullies. Seems like the only support she is getting is from her "beloved" tweeties.

That's why she won't close her twitter-she needs that adulation. She's not getting it anywhere else.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think the reason this one really hit a nerve with more "mainstream" readers is because there are real bullies out there, and real victims of bullies. To try to join those ranks and act as if you really feel their pain because you are just like them, devalues everything they've been through. Sort of like sympathizing with a cancer patient because you once had a paper cut. No one is buying this.

By all means sympathize with cancer patients and victims of bullies, but don't try to sell your snake oil unless it's real.

PatK said...

Kate made an ass out of herself with this "I'm being bullied" schtick.

She still needs someone to reign her in.

Unknown said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 167
''Wow is this bullying thing ever backfiring. No one is buying this.''
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I believe the reason no one is buying KK's claim of being bullied is because there are too many who saw with their own eyes on her reality shows HER bullying her children, and especially Jon. When you saw and remember her behavior, there is no way you can see KK in any way other than the bully. When I read KK on twitter accuse those remembering her behavior of being ''jealous'' or ''haters'', it becomes clear to me that she is a liar at best, and totally mentally ill at worst. Actually, it is clear to me that she is both a liar and mentally ill.

Alberta Girl said...

Hook 'em Horns:

I see where you are coming from, but on the other side of the coin, there are also "good" teachers, as well as "bad".

Good: My son who is in grade 2, had an issue with a girl at his table (whatever happened to desks???) calling him names. We discussed it, and decided he needed to tell her to stop, and if it didn't happen to tell his teacher. At lunch the next day, she decided to smack him on the back of the head, and while he didn't strike back, he called her a name. Both were sent to the office, and had detention that afternoon recess.
I emailed his teacher that night (Friday), with my concerns (I wanted her to move my son to another table), and boy was I blown away when she called me at 10 am Saturday morning! She was awesome, and we both decided she would monitor the situation the next week, and make a change if needed.

Bad: My youngest is in Grade 1, and his teacher has the energy of a slug. At the end of the day, the look of contempt on her face for actually being there with the students is awful. I am so tempted to say, just take your damn pension already and leave the profession. (In Canada, teachers are paid pretty well, and are known for having very rich pensions. Yes, I expect some "backlash" from any Canadian teachers that post here. Go work in the private sector and see how guaranteed yearly increases and pensions are).

Anyways, just wanted to comment.

PS. Have read here for years, rarely comment, but I may relay my NPD boss story later. It's because of this blog I realized what her problem was (thanks everyone!), and she is scarily a Kate clone!

Hook 'em Horns said...

Oh, Alberta Girl, I don't think anyone will take you to task for suggesting all teachers are not great. We know that! I left a great school a decade ago because two members of my team were horrible. There were no open positions in grade levels I wanted to teach, and those teachers were not going anywhere. Imagine working with Kate. Imagine her being your child's teacher. Wow. And, as teachers, we know parents talk about us! :) But there really are people like Kate, and worse, who are teachers.

NJGal51 said...

This comment from the evilbeetgossip article pretty much sums it up:

I invite Kate to sit down with a group of kids who have experienced real bullying. She doesn’t have a clue what bullying is. She parades herself around in public and begs us to notice.
Bullied people don’t want to be noticed, they stay out of the limelight. When we do notice her, we respond but she doesn’t like the response and cries bullying. Get over yourself Gosselin.

Dmasy said...

Alberta Girl, welcome. I appreciated your thoughts. Share again, please.

Kirkland said...

My sister has a son in middle school. On Friday she was notified that her son's name was one of ten names on a "kill list" found at the school. Another student saw the list, and reported it. The student who wrote the list has been expelled and is in custody at this time.

My sister is frantic with worry and her son (my nephew) is scared to go back to school.

But what really upset me (and my sister) was how it was reported on the news. There was more sympathy for the person who wrote the list, than the ten on the list!! It was implied he was being bullied by the ten! So what, that makes it okay to write a "kill list"?

A "concerned parent" (not a parent of the 10) was interviewed on TV and she basically said maybe the people doing the bullying will learn from this and change their ways. I get it. Bullying is bad. And if my nephew was, in fact, bullying this kid he should be punished. But we cannot sympathize when someone decides to write a hit list or a kill list. That is never okay.

For the record, my nephew has never been in trouble at school before, my sister freaked out when the principal called her and told her he wanted to talk about her son. He's a straight A student, with a kind sweet gentle nature; even a little on the shy side. Where's the sympathy for him and the other 9 people on the list?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kirkland that is awful!!! I have been very uneasy about when anytime anything bad happens people immediately start saying bullying. First, early on no one has any idea whether that happened and second it diminishes the responsibility of the perp. Although I like to find reasons for things just as much as the next person, there are no "reasons" for killing.

I noticed this didn't happen so much when Newton happened. I think people finally realized how much of a deflection that is.

Kirkland said...

Thanks Admin! It just pisses me off the way people jump to conclusions. I watched the news report thinking they would discuss the 10 kids, and all the sympathy seemed to be towards the one who wrote the list. It's just not making sense to me.

And Kate pisses me off even more. I hate the way she's jumped on this bandwagon and has made it all about her. Only in Kate's world can she turn HER bullying into being the victim.

Suze said...

I just finished watching the latest "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" episode. It was about this past Christmas. They didn't stage a fake celebration for the show, didn't fake their excitement, etc - it was everything that J&K+8 ever was and more.

June said that in 2007 a woman knocked on her door and said she knew they didn't ask for help, but she noticed that they might need it and June said that if it weren't for that woman's kindness they would not have had any gifts that year. Since then they've given back to the community and work WITH the community to help others less fortunate. They actually acknowledge their good fortune and ability to now repay and give back to all those who helped them when they needed it.

GIVE BACK, a concept that Kate doesn't seem to understand. In 2011 they helped 108 families and this year they raised more than $15,000 in toys and cash plus canned goods. The episode repeats a few times this week if you're interested in watching it. I agree with the criticism of the show and the over the top antics of the family, but this episode really puts Kate and her family and their greed to shame.

Millicent said...

One of my sisters is a teacher and has been for nearly 30 years. Parents - yes, teachers discuss you. It's human nature. There is always at least one parent who seems to have daily requests for the teacher, or daily concerns that her child needs this, that, or the other.

Parents who are helpful without being overbearing or intrusive are always welcomed and spoken of warmly. Parents who volunteer and then cheerfully do what is asked, rather than pouting when they are asked to copy worksheets rather than sit next to their child and "help him/her out" don't get negative reviews in the teachers' lounge.

I worked in the principal's office when I was in high school. I still remember three particular moms who constantly wanted to talk to the principal about one teacher or another who wasn't treating their precious child appropriately. The principal would always take time to hear them out politely, assure them he would look into the matter, etc. It probably was hugely embarrassing to the children involved and I was sooooooooooooooo thankful my mom didn't feel the need to monitor my school experience in minute detail.

Hook 'em Horns said...

Kirkland, I feel your pain. That happens SO MUCH. A child gets in trouble, and the parents make excuses on why it is not that child's fault. Your nephew is a victim. And if bullying was indeed happening, the parents of the child who made the list should have contacted the school immediately. Not that I know whether they did or not. But too often, they don't, and then say their child is really the victim. A recent case has a small child being suspended for pretending to throw a grenade. The parents are outraged because they say their child was pretending to save the world, and that should be rewarded, not punished. In my experience, this is a pattern of behavior and now the parents are grasping at straws. Sorry about your nephew. That is scary.

Grammy watchin' said...

'Discuss' is O.K. with me of course how can you not discuss parents! but not name calling. If a kid had a 'name' for their teacher like buck tooth or witch even if he only called her that in his home and never to his teacher's face adults would have a field day would be punishing him until he stopped but i guess it's A.O.K. for adults to do it? Color me confused this is acceptable behavior for teachers.

Sherry Baby said...


A MOM said... 137

On tweeter Kate was asked if the family coming back to TV. Kate's answer was "yep"!

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The question was, "Any chance we'll see you again in the future?" Kate said, "Yep."

Kate did not say that the family was going to be back on television. "Seeing" her could mean anything...at a marathon, photos of her on her webpage, in some kind of "giving back" event or whatever. She didn't say there's a television show in the works, nor was she asked if the family is going to be back on television. Remember Kate's carefully crafted words!!! If she had said she was going to be back on television, you can bet the sheeple tweeties would have been all over that with gushing praises and excitement.

grandee4 said...

Just saw on TLC that a new reality show coming out called Myrtle Manor, it's about a trailer park.
Wait until KKG find out that TLC is going to do this and they didn't make it about her and a big reunion with her parents and siblings.I bet all of a sudden they will know how to help her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The question was, "Any chance we'll see you again in the future?" Kate said, "Yep."

Kate did not say that the family was going to be back on television.

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But the context WAS T.V.

Here is the full question:
I miss seeing you & your beautiful family on TV each week. Any chance we'll see you again in the future!? :) #HappySunday

When you say I miss seeing you ON T.V. then immediately ask will I see you again, the obvious context when you say "yep" is "yep, we'll be back on T.V."

That said I know how she minces words but she should know full well the context of that question was T.V.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

admin, did you hear about this?

Three people were killed Sunday in a pre-dawn helicopter crash in a rural area of northern Los Angeles County while filming for a new reality TV show for the Discovery Channel.

The copter crashed at about 3:40 a.m. at the popular filming location of Polsa Rosa Ranch in the city of Acton, Los Angeles County Fire dispatcher Robert Diaz said.

All three people aboard died, Diaz said. Their names weren't immediately released.

The show, listed on a filming permit as an untitled military-theme TV program, had not yet been aired or announced by Discovery, channel spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes Sleepless thanks, heard about that this morning when I was desperate for more news on the sociopath.

I wasn't going to do a post on it unless there were some kind of negligence indicated. As far as I heard they had the proper permits and were being safe.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It does beg the question though what is a "reality" show doing on some kind of ranch that specifically rents itself out as a movie set. That's not "real."

Sherry Baby said...


When you say I miss seeing you ON T.V. then immediately ask will I see you again, the obvious context when you say "yep" is "yep, we'll be back on T.V."

That said I know how she minces words but she should know full well the context of that question was T.V.

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You're right, but SHOULD is the operative word. The thing is that she wasn't specifically asked if the family will be back on television, which is what I thought when I read @137. Kate chooses her words carefully, and then backpedals when asked to clarify what she meant. She could always say, "well, nobody asked me DIRECTLY if the family would be back on television...just if there's a chance you'd be seeing me again in the future, and my answer was yep."

One thing she is very good at is mincing words and giving nebulous answers.

PatK said...

Oh, there is no doubt in my mind Kate was referring to TV with her "yep". Also, a couple of her twatter fans replied with hooray tpe of comments.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

miloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I guess U went fr bread makin straight into dinner., kids bath time, tuckin N time...is it now KATE'S TIME! #RestAndRelax :)

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Well, I bet u've already gone 2bed. That 5:30am wake up comes so fast & I know U don't want 2start Monday w/a sleep-in! LOL

She (or he) is really is a piece of work. Is Kate supposed to document every move for Milo?
Milo clearly has earned the name "Gladys Kravitz." In fact, was Gladys this bad?

gab2 said...

I picture Milo with an extra y chromosome...a week long bum fluff, hairy legs/upperlip and nothing to do all day. Just plain weird. Grooming Kate for who knows what...

fidosmommy said...

Gladys just peered out her own living room window, scurried across the street to look into Samantha's windows and rang the doorbell a lot.
Of course, the things Gladys was curious about were things like pink elephants in the den, Darren turning into a toad and Aunt Clara
falling down chimneys. You know, the kind of things that would really be interesting to find out about. Not what kind of toothpaste Sam
preferred or what she fixed for dinner.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

You know, the kind of things that would really be interesting to find out about. Not what kind of toothpaste Sam
preferred or what she fixed for dinner.

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lol, Fidosmommy! I guess, then, that Gladys didn't dream about she and Samantha riding off into the sunset together, singing "Close To You."

Suze said...

Oops, from my comment at #179, that should have been: They didn't stage a fake celebration for the show, didn't fake their excitement, etc - it was everything that J&K+8 NEVER was and more - genuine.

fidosmommy said...

Who is Milo's "Abner"? LIGHTS OUT MAN! There's something strange going on! LIGHTS OUT MAN! And LOM sighs and goes back to reading his paper and tells her she's some kind of a nut.

time to re-evaluate said...

These nicknames take shape in kinder, and tend to remain in place all through elem.


This statement alone is the very definition of bullying. Simply discussing parents would be the norm but to LABEL them and NOT LET IT GO is...BULLYING.

what?! said...

They didn't stage a fake celebration for the show,

You're telling me you think that actually was filmed on Dec. 24th and 25th? They may not have staged the gift gifing but the rest was all producer inspired. Fake, fake and more fake.

silimom said...

Hook 'Em 181 - A recent case has a small child being suspended for pretending to throw a grenade. The parents are outraged because they say their child was pretending to save the world, and that should be rewarded, not punished. In my experience, this is a pattern of behavior and now the parents are grasping at straws. Sorry about your nephew. That is scary.

The principal corroborated the boy's story, which is that he was throwing a pretend grenade not at another child but at a box that contained evil forces. As a former K/1st grade teacher, this is very common play for young boys. They play superheroes, cops and robbers, etc. Their toys and television shows are marketed towards this behavior and reinforces it (Nerf toys, Lego Ninjago or Monster Fighters for example). Is this young 7 year old going to grow up to be an Adam Lanza or an Ed Harris or a Dylan Klebold, etc.? Anything is possible. What you have to consider is how probable it is and the odds of that happening are very low.

In my personal opinion based on my 20+ years of working with children, this is not a bully nor a bully in the making. This is not parents making excuses for their child (and yes, Hook, I know the type of parent you're referring to). This is another case of "zero tolerance/zero thought" policies in our public schools and society in general. I don't want to go into a diatribe here. But I have strong feelings about the lack of plain old common sense that seems to be increasingly devoid from our society. Are we truly evolving into a society of citizens who cannot think for themselves? I hope not, but sadly I see more and more evidence that it is.

Gail said...

This statement alone is the very definition of bullying. Simply discussing parents would be the norm but to LABEL them and NOT LET IT GO is...BULLYING.


I totally agree! I'm outraged at this. And gobsmacked. I leave my child in your care for 7 hrs and THIS is how the adults/supervisors/teachers behave when they think no one is watching or listening?

Is it just me? Because homeschool is looking more and more like a WAY better option!

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