Monday, January 14, 2013

Jodie Foster's Golden Globe speech: 'The fight for a life that felt real and honest and normal against all odds'

The actress's acceptance of her Lifetime Achievement Award was a little streaming consciousness, but she talked about reality shows, and her lust for privacy. 


"You know, you guys might be surprised, but I am not Honey Boo Boo Child. No, I’m sorry, that’s just not me. It never was and it never will be. Please don’t cry because my reality show would be so boring. I would have to make out with Marion Cotillard or I’d have to spank Daniel Craig’s bottom just to stay on the air. It’s not bad work if you can get it, though. But seriously, if you had been a public figure from the time that you were a toddler, if you’d had to fight for a life that felt real and honest and normal against all odds, then maybe you too might value privacy above all else. Privacy. Someday, in the future, people will look back and remember how beautiful it once was. I have given everything up there from the time that I was 3-years-old. That’s reality-show enough, don’t you think?"
Last August, Jodie Foster released some scathing comments about child stardom, calling it the "cruelty of a life lived as a moving target" and said you have to "submerge beneath the foul air and breathe through a straw." Previously, Foster had been fairly polite about being famous.

The full Cecil B. DeMille Award presentation can be seen here:

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PatK said...

Call off the hounds--Milo has finally surfaced.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Permanent Name, I agree with you 100% about eating healthier. The hubs and I grow almost all of our own vegetables as well as some fruit. We'll have fast foods maybe only once a month now, a beef from Portillos or order a pizza. Pizza on Friday nights used to be a weekly habit for years, not anymore.

Anyhow, we do feel better, but we still could improve our eating habits a little better and I work on that all the time with new recipes, etc.

However, my mother's side of the family all had weight issues and I struggle, too. But I have accepted the fact that I am never going to be a size 10 again! And I'm fine with that now.

fidosmommy said...

I know somebody's going to beat me to this, but I gotta say it anyway.

Hey Milo! Go to Em Tanner's website and buy Kate a huge activity calendar there. She'll LOVE it. Pink, I think.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

fidosmommy, LOL!!!!

That was good!

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Poor, pathetic Milo, in there, in crazyland, until what, Twitter blows up?

I don't know what Katie is really up to these days, and I hardly care, but I would be very surprised if TLC is involved. I confess to recording and watching the
Say Yes dress shows to watch while exercising and it seems to me that other than HoneyBooBoo all the promos for new shows involve groups of outrageous women: Starter Wives, Gypsy Sisters, etc. Not much doing with children.

And oh poor Kate the Chauffeur. Good thing her kids seem to do 10% of what all of ours did.

Skywatcher said...

I have read most of the post and I have to say hats off to our Admin for running a great blog. It is sad when possible sheeple come onto this site and try to bring it or others down.

LoveMyGrandsons-my thoughts and prayers go out to you and the SIL in his loss. She sounds like she was an awesome lady.

Regardig Lance, I didn't want to believe years back that he cheated. I remember asking my husband if he thought Armstrong was guilt and he didn't skip a beat when he said, "YES". It wasn' until I watched that interview with Oprah that I lost all respect for him. It was obviously scripted and he didn't seem to be sincere (or care)about his actions to others or the fans. I didn't bother watching the last 30 minutes or the conclusion the next day.

I am reminded of a saying from the show Friends, "Once a cheater, alway a cheater!" He has lost my respect and viewership from any future races.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Thank you for your kind thoughts, Skywatcher.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Parent In Lancaster County, I had another ham bone in the freezer and made a big pot of your cabbage and ham soup tonight. I LOVE that soup. I made enough to freeze in 2 separate containers so I can pull it out whenever I have a taste for it.

Anonymous said...

Erica said... 1
As a nurse practitioner, I must say that obesity is the number one controllable health care problem in our nation today. There would be so much relief in terms of health care cost if people were responsible about their weight. Being overweight causes many other physical and yes emotional problems. Being overweight effects all those around you who suffer when your health is impaired as well as the good of society at large.
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Agree,Agree, Agree!! I have to maintain my weight for work and you know the number one way they push us to do it? Physical activity- we work out, then followed by nutrition. But the emphasis, and I mean EMPHASIS is on physical activity to maintain a healthy weight; and as soon as we become over weight, we get added trips to the gym every week, lol!! Mandatory!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 So have U rounded up the Gosselin crew fr all the day's events? We sure have missed ur daily menus..what was cookin 2day? :)
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When did Kate ever tweet daily menus?

Jane said...

Sometimes I almost feel sorry for her, she's so desperate.

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 So have U rounded up the Gosselin crew fr all the day's events? We sure have missed ur daily menus..what was cookin 2day? :)

All This Is That said...


Am I taking a risk? I don't really understand all the cyber trail security stuff too well...

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Permanent, in my opinion (for what it's worth)...yes. How do you know that the e-mail you get on that account is really from a legitimate poster here? Anyone, including Kate fans, could e-mail you, pretending to be a familiar poster here, and you'd never know. Soon you might be getting spam e-mails, or very unpleasant e-mails that you'd rather not have.

How would you distinguish trolls' e-mails from e-mails sent by people you befriended here?

Jane said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 11
When did Kate ever tweet daily menus?

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Right - just that menu monday failure and some sporadic pix of her delightful cooking :)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

All This Is That said... 13

Am I taking a risk? I don't really understand all the cyber trail security stuff too well...

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Permanent, in my opinion (for what it's worth)...yes. How do you know that the e-mail you get on that account is really from a legitimate poster here? Anyone, including Kate fans, could e-mail you, pretending to be a familiar poster here, and you'd never know. Soon you might be getting spam e-mails, or very unpleasant e-mails that you'd rather not have.

How would you distinguish trolls' e-mails from e-mails sent by people you befriended here?
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Permanent, emails also contain a "hidden" header which isn't that difficult to see if you know how. Sometimes the header shows your IP.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Jane said... 14
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 11
When did Kate ever tweet daily menus?

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Right - just that menu monday failure and some sporadic pix of her delightful cooking :)
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Milo's imaginings are getting more bizarre by the day.

Unknown said...

All This Is That said... 13
''..........How would you distinguish trolls' e-mails from e-mails sent by people you befriended here?''
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I was just coming here to say the same thing! What would stop a troll from emailing you and say they were RemonaBlue, when I didn't email you? How would you know the troll is a fake RemonaBlue?

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Being overweight causes many other physical and yes emotional problems. Being overweight effects all those around you who suffer when your health is impaired as well as the good of society at large.
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What about those who are underweight because of a physical condition or an emotional one (poor self image, possibly due to depression, anorexia, bulimia)? Are they looked down upon by society because they aren't of "normal" weight, or is it only the obese who contribute to the decline of a good society?

You know, there are those who, because of a physical condition beyond their control, cannot get out to the gym to exercise, or go on daily runs. This could be due to an injury or illness. If they are overweight, does this mean that society suffers because of them? I imagine that there are many in wheelchairs who would give their right arm to be able to be "physically fit," work out, and not be looked down upon because they have gained some pounds due to no fault of their own.

In Addition said...

January is National Stalking Awareness Month and cybersecurity is in the forefront.

One aspect alot of people don't know about is Geo-Tagging. If you use your smartphone to take a picture and the GPS on your device is ON and you then post that picture on the internet, the location, date and time of the photo are embedded in the photo.

Turn the GPS OFF when taking pics.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

I just talked to my son-in-law and he says he is doing fine. They talked to the boys about grandma, but we are sure they do not really understand it yet.

However, he did tell me that the family is at peace with her passing because it was her choice. When she went into hospice care, they needed to put her on a respirator and told her she would have to be on it 24/7. She talked to her family and let them know that her she did not want to be on life support. They let her know that they would respect her choice and she had the nurse disconnect the respirator. Her husband was there with her when she died.

So I just wanted to share this info with all of you. I understand her decision because my husband and I have both talked about this awhile ago and said we would not want to be kept alive by life support. It is a personal decision that everyone has to make, and she made hers and her family respected that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I had the same thought about underweight people. Often they have the same exact issues as many overweight people but it just manifests in not eating instead of overeating. The issues are the same, the weight is just different. But it doesn't seem fair that society judges the overweight so harshly when other people have identical issues that are simply manifesting themselves differently, and are rarely judged for it.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

When did Kate ever tweet daily menus?

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She didn't, except when Milo pestered her about what was on the menu. I think this is what she means, although with Milo, who knows? Milo thinks that when she asks, Kate is obligated to answer. Milo wants to know what Kate cooked so she has material upon which to lavish her praises, telling Kate how fantastic she is, hard worker, having eight little mouths to feed, the dinner looks yummy, set an extra place for Milo...you know the drill!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

rainbowsandunicorns, thank you for stating that. I have a lung condition so I cannot work out like I could years ago. I had to stop long walks I used to take outdoors because in the winter the cold brings on attacks and in the summer, I cannot be out in the humidity for long. I developed this condition about 6 years ago and I know it has to do with being a smoker for 24 years. I quit when I was 43 and this condition was diagnosed right before I was 50.

I know I did this to myself, but it still prohibits me from being as active as I would like to be.

In Addition said...

Erika said: Being overweight causes many other physical and yes emotional problems. Being overweight effects all those around you who suffer when your health is impaired as well as the good of society at large

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And many physical and emotional problems can lead to one becoming overweight. There are those who overindulge due to stress and depression. There are so many medications which lead to some becoming overweight and unable to shed the extra lbs due to side effects on metabolism.

Butterfly, are you a resident at some wonderful Club Fed Med?



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I remember milo often asking what Kate's got a-cookin' tonight but I think Kate rarely answered her.

Working Woman said...

Completely agree that those who are underweight often have the similar issues as those who are overweight.

I don't think being severely underweight is highly regarded either, for the most part. But there also isn't the degree of stigma against it.

In a perfect world, the common goal would be to maintain a weight and a degree of physical fitness that is healthy and comfortable, not forced.

In Addition said...

LoveMyGrandsons, so sorry to hear of you and your family's loss. Blessed be......

grandee4 said...

Omg, really behind on readiing post. Milo is from the Deep South ? I hope not, I live in Louisiana on the Northshore of New Orleans.

grandee4 said...

LMG, I still smoke and know what I'm headed for. Starting to get short of breath with climbing stairs or walking fast. I want to quit . I really need to work on that.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

In Addition, thank you for your kind words.

I don't recognize your name, welcome!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

grandee4, I know it's hard to do. My husband struggles with that and he's tried many different options. With him, though, he really doesn't want to quit because he enjoys smoking.

Good luck to you, hon. I know it is difficult to stop life long habits. God bless.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

We're also a society that has made ourselves so busy it's hard to find time to work out. People work, have kids, dinner and homework to attend to, where does the gym fit in? You are always giving up something to squeeze it in and I don't fault the busy parents with kids who need them after school from choosing the family over the gym. It is easy for some people to squeeze it in, impossible for others. That's not laziness. Many if not most workplaces expect you to be at your desk working not off working out. Most give no insentives. Of course it's easier that way. I don't have a problem with calling people out on their issues but I do have a problem with assuming what the issues are based just on someone's weight.

ElisabethK said...

grandee4 said... 27
Omg, really behind on readiing post. Milo is from the Deep South ? I hope not, I live in Louisiana on the Northshore of New Orleans.
January 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM

She is from Mississippi or Alabama, I think. I remember, a few years ago, she called in to Nina Frye's radio show ("Living the Dream Mom Radio"). She identified herself as "Fired Up for Kate." She spoke with a pronounced Southern accent and had a rather rough manner of speech that indicated a not very well educated person. If you go to https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/living-the-dream-mom/id397201331, you can download the show she was on. I think she was on in 2010 during the "Gosselin Hour" show which Nina had once a month. Sorry I don't know exact date.

Working Woman said...

Admin, great point. Not everybody has a schedule that allows hour-long workouts every day, or even most days.

To the people who can get in a great deal of exercise often, power to you. That's wonderful.

But, those who are not able to because of other important commitments, that is certainly not their fault.

When I go through periods where my schedule is less cushy and I don't have time to dance as much or go to the gym, I try to get creative with stretching and with using stairs instead of elevators :-)

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo's imaginings are getting more bizarre by the day.

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Like this one?

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Guess its time 4 a goodnite lullaby 2sing, all 8 Gosselin ducklins safe& protected under Mom Kate's wing! :) #FurBabyShokaToo

Jane said...

Milo's imaginings are getting more bizarre by the day.

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Like this one?

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Guess its time 4 a goodnite lullaby 2sing, all 8 Gosselin ducklins safe& protected under Mom Kate's wing! :) #FurBabyShokaToo
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Even Kate must see how mentally ill this person is.

carolina peach said...

the mad hobbit said... 736
*waves to Dmasy

And a shout out to Carolina peach as I am a Carolina girl as well.
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Hi, Neighbor! Love your name. Did you get snow? We're waitng for that fluffy perfect snowfall to come in on a Fri night and be gone for Monday am. One of my favorite things is to walk in the snow at night, crunching under my footsteps and the moon lighting our way. Hearing nothing but our breaths and foot steps. Insert sigh... Last good snow we had, dh took the sled, the old red sled with metal runners, and kids came up to him asking what it was. They had never seen one..They're just used to disks and some odd rubbery/plastic thing. They ended up using ours and that antique must be 50 years old. Worked great. Made lots of new friends. We have a friend who at the first sign of snow runs to the liquor store to get 'snow snake bite medicine'. Really, says those old snow snakes are bad and he must be prepared. Me, bread and milk.

Trying to catch up. Lots of interesting discussions in the past few days. Smiled at some and shook my head at others. I've had extra hours at work, and !!surprise Grandson visit!! I've missed yall. Blessings to all, congrats to the soon to be Grandmamas. Are any of these babies due the same time as Princess Kate's. If so, is one of posters, her Mum for across the pond? For those who have had hard times and those going through difficulties, prayers and smiles for you. For those whose minds are like steel traps and those that keep me laughing. Please don't stop. Hogs to all. For those that can't think of a name, shoo, shoo. Question, why are some sames pink and some black, etc? Night night. Stay safe everyone, sleep well and see you on the morrow.

Noticed the only thing tht remains the same is Milo's desperate begging for attention from her hinney-ness. She really is sounding anxious begging for tht reply to her pitiful and sad attempts to draw her in. Sad.

Still looking 4 Frosty.

Dmasy said...

I feel sorry for Milo. She might as well be jumping up and down under the tower window while writing poetry serenades for Kate.

All to receive no response. Sad. She gets more attention here at 15 minutes.

Mel said...

6 hours sleep, 3 hours with your kids-homework, bathing, conversing, etc, 9 hours at work, 1 hour commuting, 1 hour cooking/cleaning, 1 hour exercise, 1/2 hour talking with spouse, 1 hour taking care of mom, 1 hour volunteer work, 1 hour laundry/groc shopping/car/house maintenance/etc.
Something's gotta go. Guess which thing that is?

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

But it doesn't seem fair that society judges the overweight so harshly when other people have identical issues that are simply manifesting themselves differently, and are rarely judged for it.

I think the reason overweight people are judged so harshly is because there are far more overweight than underweight people out there. The media tells us constantly how much overweight people cost the government (in Canada where I live) because of all the health concerns that goes with being overweight. There does appear to be alot more people who over-eat than under-eat. I think there is still a simple belief that overweight people choose to put the food in their mouths so it's self inflicted and people seem to have little sympathy for it. If they just stopped eating so much, they could lose weight. If someone starves themselves, we don't look at it the same way. I have never known anyone who is anorexic but I sure do know alot of people who are obese. It's an interesting thing to ponder. Don't get me wrong. I completely understand the emotions that go along with the eating issues. I hope I make sense in what I am saying.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

She is from Mississippi or Alabama, I think. I remember, a few years ago, she called in to Nina Frye's radio show ("Living the Dream Mom Radio"). She identified herself as "Fired Up for Kate." She spoke with a pronounced Southern accent and had a rather rough manner of speech that indicated a not very well educated person.

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http://toginet.com/podcasts/livingthedreammom/
October 7, 2010

Fired Up For Kate (Milo) speaks at 20:39

Working Woman said...

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Guess its time 4 a goodnite lullaby 2sing, all 8 Gosselin ducklins safe& protected under Mom Kate's wing! :) #FurBabyShokaToo
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Lullaby? Ducklins? She does know that these are 8 and 12-year-old children, right?

And that, ironically, her own fixation on the G8 is proof that they were not always "safe and protected under Mama Kate's wing"?

lukebandit said...

Love My Grandsons, you don't need to apologize for it. So sorry about the loss of your friend.

A lot of things Lance said and his body language reminds me of kate. Dr. Lillian Glass gave her assessment of Lance's interview and she thinks he is a socipath.

I wish she would do kate and the RV performance. Wow, wouldn't that be awesome!

Anonymous said...

I may not understand how the athletic world works a whole lot, or why people would even bother to take drugs just to be better at something. I can't pretend to even understand because I don't.

I look at all the people that Lance has loved, supported, all the people, his fans who defending him. I didn't watch the Oprah interview more then a few seconds but from what I have read, it's his lack of emotion that's so weird.

How do you, as a person, a human being hurt people like that? His kids, all those people. You can look up to and admire anyone: bravery, cancer, which I feel cancer people deserve that ultimately on any level, or even if it's someone in your personal life. How could you famous or not live with yourself for letting someone down?

I don't blame the sports world, the media, I blame the personal ultimately responsible for their actions. It's you. The person who takes the drugs that's what it comes down to. Not, "I felt pressure to preform better, my teammates said it would make me better, I felt I needed an edge, I deserved to have longer lasting glory."

There is no excuse when you decide to destroy people's faith in you, on any level. I say this in personal because tonight I learned going out on a limb for someone you thought could change, they ultimately can do you more harm then you realize. People who defy laws, trust, there is just no excuse. I hope that Lance is able to live with himself, he knew it was wrong. Just as I learned tonight, it's wrong to give someone who has hurt you repeatedly any trust on any level, even if that trust is someone who raised you. Lance has children I have NO idea how this man is going to face the fact that one day he will have to explain himself to his kids.

I do view there are cases where people change, drug addicts who may change but what I've read, what I've seen even from the perspective of Kate with her lies the only person you affect with lying is YOURSELF--not that you don't hurt people in the process but people like that that I've now understood go out of their way to do more damage than good.

Lance has done more damage with hiding then he ever will do by confession now. Only reason he confessed is because he got caught.

Only reason Kate hasn't confessed yet is because she keeps getting that pass in life even if just by an inch or so.

Personally I can see once caught people tend to close themselves off because they know it and I say let them run. People who the ones that are innocent when you go out of your way to lie, from my point of view in life I don't think they should ever look at that person the same way again.

He's hurt a lot of people and I wonder if in reality he feels good about being able to do that for so long. Do people as I've described tonight, I also wonder if they feel good about knowing they in the end cause people pain? Does it simply not affect them one way or the other?

Starz22 said...

If you look up the most recent studies on eating organic...you'll see there are no difference...other than it costing more money.

Erica said...

I have been a nurse practioner for over 15 years. Virtually all overweight/obese folks would vastly improve their health by a portion controlled, lean protein controlled carb diet with daily exercise which could very simply be to walk. Most disabled overweight people have become disabled because of their weight. An example is a woman seen recently in our clinic, late 50's with type ll diabetes and weight close to 275 pounds. She was utilizing a scooter for mobility due to knee problems and circulation problems relating to her weight. Her poor adult daughter was with her for this appointment, along with her two young preschool grandchildren. I felt so sorry for this patient's daughter, who had become responsible to care for her mother and own children while working. The stress she seemed under was extreme. Yet, her overweight and diabetic mother could have prevented her condition entirely by monitoring her diet and by getting exercise. If everyone was responsible for their health and were responsible with their diet and exercise, the clinic I work with as well as all the Doctors and nurses there would be out of business.

the mad hobbit said...

Carolina Peach, no snow here! I'm an Upstate girl now living just outside a beautiful and historic coastal town and loving it! We moved here not long ago but know now this is where we were meant to be.

Gosh! Those rare snow days are grand! I remember the disc sledding. Never knew where you'd end up, road, ditch, someone's yard.

I hope you find Frosty soon. If you do, send him here. I'd like to see how our pond looks frozen.

Glad you like my name. It fits.:-)

Formerly Duped said...

LMG: What a brave noble choice your relative made. I respect the right to die with dignity.

Kate's tweet: someone was just mentioning here that Kate's kids do not appear to have extracurricular activities. What a coincidence that she posted this!

Weight: I have two friends who had gastric bypass surgery as last resort to lose weight. Warning- it seems it change one's personality! Seriously, both these women have become very vain and self- absorbed.It's a big lifestyle change and not a quick fix, but I would think about all the ramifications if anyone considers this.Lots of physical side effects as well.

Personally I have always put exercise into my daily routine- harder the older one gets, but I persevere. I love the endorphins and results, but I can see how it would be hard to start a regimen at an older age.I would never put anyone down for not doing this- take a daily walk & do things like use stairs, park farther from a store or something pleasurable rather than waste $ on a gym you may not attend after a while.Any home can be made a 'gym' of your own!Cut down- not eliminate- those hi- cal/carb foods.JMO!

Anonymous said...

Erica said... 46
I have been a nurse practioner for over 15 years. Virtually all overweight/obese folks would vastly improve their health by a portion controlled, lean protein controlled carb diet with daily exercise which could very simply be to walk. Most disabled overweight people have become disabled because of their weight. An example is a woman seen recently in our clinic, late 50's with type ll diabetes and weight close to 275 pounds. She was utilizing a scooter for mobility due to knee problems and circulation problems relating to her weight. Her poor adult daughter was with her for this appointment, along with her two young preschool grandchildren. I felt so sorry for this patient's daughter, who had become responsible to care for her mother and own children while working. The stress she seemed under was extreme. Yet, her overweight and diabetic mother could have prevented her condition entirely by monitoring her diet and by getting exercise. If everyone was responsible for their health and were responsible with their diet and exercise, the clinic I work with as well as all the Doctors and nurses there would be out of business.
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Erica I think I love you!!!! You speak the truth!!
Type II Diabetes runs in my family- everyone gets it at about 65 - 70 years of age. My great uncle just passed away this year from complications from it at age 85. He refused to take care of himself and went on Dialysis and eventually died. Anyway, my grandmother, knowing that diet and weight and exercise can help prevent the onset of the disease did her part and she eats a very healthy diet and exercises daily, even after she fell and broke a bone, she got right back outside after the cast came off and she is in her 70's. She still got diabetes, but guess what? NO MEDS!! She controls it by diet and exercise. Amazing. She is the only 75+ senior in her group that takes no meds, for anything! SHe is so proud. So am I. Exercise, or just daily physical activity WILL prevent most health problems the afflict the American population. Followed by diet. It's a no-brainer. If my elderly grams can do it, so can anyone. If the soldiers in wheelchairs who lost legs can work out still, so can anyone.

Erica, keep spreading the word!

Anonymous said...

Starz22 said... 45
If you look up the most recent studies on eating organic...you'll see there are no difference...other than it costing more money.
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Those are the same conclusions that I read- from non-partisan studies by scientists and doctors who have no allegiance to either side of the debate- their studies not funded by either, just pure research. Now, I do try to buy naturally grown chicken, just because I dont like the how the chickens are treated on the farms that give them steroids to make them 'super-sized', - I dont need a giant chicken breast, but as for GMO, and I not scared.

Anonymous said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 150
Thank you, Working Woman.

Also, you made a very good point in your post about people with eating issues. I am not physically fit, but I don't think that has anything to do with my character.

No disrespect to you at all, butterfly. We just have a difference of opinion on this one, hon.
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Look at this LMG, if someone doesnt take care of their personal hygiene, like shower and use deodorant and brush their teeth daily; wouldn't that reflect on their character? I think yes. You would think they are a dirty person who doesnt care about themselves. Why is physical fitness any different? Physical fitness is actually FAR more important than personal hygiene, it's your health!! It's life and death for some people, yet we, as a society, excuse it. Does that put it into perspective? If you can put emphasis on showering, you most certainly put emphasis on physical activity. I hope that helps you understand the my point of view. It's people's health. That's all. I just care :) Like heather and GMO and organic food, LOL!!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

@MiloandJack
As I look at the unique set of challenges I will face tomorrow...I'm singing "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"! Lookin at the bright side of life!
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Milo is doing a Kate impersonation!

In Addition said...

Exercise, or just daily physical activity WILL prevent most health problems the afflict the American population. Followed by diet. It's a no-brainer. If my elderly grams can do it, so can anyone. If the soldiers in wheelchairs who lost legs can work out still, so can anyone.

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Butterfly,
Your post reflects that some medical conditions are genetic in origin. Some conditions can be controlled by diet and exercise, many cannot. To say diet and exercise cures or prevents most of which ails us is so not true.

And there are so many side effects to medications on the market, just watch a few of those ads on TV...scarey.

Anonymous said...

In addition,

No actually it is true.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Actually, I would wonder if someone with poor hygiene was depressed, had some other mental health issues, maybe was disabled, or perhaps struggling so much financially they couldn't afford all the products we use to keep smelling like flowerly chemicals. None of those has a thing to do with "character".

In Addition said...

Butterfly said: Physical fitness is actually FAR more important than personal hygiene, it's your health!! It's life and death for some people, yet we, as a society, excuse it.

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Personal hygiene is also a health issue!!!!! it is very important and I agree with Admin, poor hygiene is not a question of character and being overweight is not a question of one's morals.

Erica, ever hear of a thing called patient confidentiality? IMO, blogging about a patient is very unprofessional.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Not sure if my last post went through so I am posting it again. Please excuse if it ends up posting twice.

I want to thank all of you sweet posters for you thoughts and condolences on the loss of my SIL's grandma. She was a special woman and will be missed.

butterfly, I understand your point, but there can be other factors involved like genetics. We will just have to agree to disagree, hon.

Now Milo is imitating Kate? I wonder if she will get a pink IPhone, too.

OT - I'm not much of a baker but I'm going to try my hand today at banana bread. Does anyone have a good recipe they like and will share? Thanks!

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Saying this for real, poor Milo. Her twits, as read here, plus her absence, indicate something major, and depressing, in her life recently. Didn't she mention emptying urinals? And where's her bff internet buddy KG in these trying times? MIA or off to other hobbies. Internet fantasy life can be cruel. Oh wait, it's not real.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Erica, ever hear of a thing called patient confidentiality? IMO, blogging about a patient is very unprofessional.
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Since we don't know if "Erica" is the poster's real name, we don't know where she lives and she didn't post the name of her "patient" I don't see how confidentiality was breached.

In Addition said...

Thoughts, the spoken/written word, conscious decisions and actions reflect character, morals and values. In my world.

Working Woman said...

Admin made a great point about the physical fitness issue, which is that some people may not always have the time to devote to the gym or to exercising. It could just be as simple as that. That says nothing about their character, it says something about their schedule and their other conflicting priorities.

Exercise is very important and impacts many aspects of our health, but people can only do what they can do. Some people can squeeze in an hour a day, some people an hour a week, and some people rarely, if ever, can find time to exercise at certain points in their lives.

Of course, for health reasons the hope is that these people are taking care of themselves in other ways, ie eating healthy foods, managing stress well, and engaging in fulfilling relationships. But their lack of exercise says nothing about character, it may just mean that they don't have the time.

In Addition said...

LoveMyGrandsons,

My best recipe for fantastic banana bread:

Find a great bakery. lol

franky said...

LMG,
I think there is a recipe in the other thread
GL

I am not much of a baker

Katie Cry-duh said...

Ugh. Does anyone think that people choose to be overweight or in poor health on purpose? As someone who struggled with severe depression and addiction, I want to put it out there that i could not get it together enough to exercise, eat right or put on makeup. And it further worsened my self esteem to vacillate between too skinny and overweight, with bad skin and hair. Sure you can argue it was a choice, but if you walked in my shoes, you'd understand that hopelessness and depression can be far more powerful than wanting to look good or be healthy. I am happy to report that sobriety, AA, therapy and antidepressants have worked wonders. But when I see someone who looks unkempt, I choose to empathize with their pain and vulnerability instead of judge.

Improbable Dreams said...

Love all the recipes & fitness threads, and...because I'm not shy (lol) I'll ask again: anyone wanna share tips re gardening?

I'm reading a great new book, written by Margaret Roach, a CEO who worked long ago for Martha Stewart, but ventured off on her own to explore her deep-rooted passion, gardening. The NYT calls her website (A Way To Garden) the best one out there. Here's an excerpt from her latest book, BACKYARD PARABLES: Lessons on Gardening, and Life.

In the practice of blind devotion to living things called gardening, that is where I got started: assuming a posture of supplication and gridding out an alternating arrangement of plants that should never be combined, but what did I know? Just one thing, really:

I knew that the postage-stamp-sized color photos on their plastic nursery labels had made lust rise up in me. Over all the other choices at the garden center where I had innocently wandered that morning, seeking a distraction from things at home, I wanted these beauties for myself.

This is how it begins: with the deadly sin of lust. Then you kneel a lot, and when you finally get up again, you’re not meek or humble quite yet but filled with the germ of another transgression—that of pride, which is said to be the worst of all and often the root of the others. Like the knees of your trousers, you will never quite recover.

All This Is That said...

"If you can put emphasis on showering, you most certainly put emphasis on physical activity."

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One can't make generalities like that to make a point. A friend of mine sustained serious injuries in an accident and is in rehab for what appears will be a lengthy time. She can get to the shower with no problem, but may never be able to participate in any kind of physical activity. Right now she is unable to even go on short walks outside. There are many factors that may contribute to not being able to participate in an exercise program, including physical disabilities, health issues, and old age.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It also says some people will put obligations to their family first over themselves and that I think is a fine character trait.

Dmasy said...

We are home. The dogs are back in their heated beds. Real life and real cold ... again.

I am going to catch up on all the posts I have missed.

Improbable -- thank you for that clip. I loved the last line especially. So true.

Thanks for Going Off Topic said...

My mama taught me the rule of etiquette that prohibits talk about politics and religion. I break that rule with people I know well, but avoid those subjects on blogs.

Since then, I've added weight issues (fat shaming and skinny shaming), talk about peanut butter sandwiches in school lunches, and requiring guests to comply with "no shoes in the house" policies, to politics and religion as subjects I don't discuss with strangers.

The discussions go in circles. Good points are made on both sides but the issues are so divisive in online communities. People end up leaving in huffs. I wouldn't like to see this blog community go down the tubes even though I mainly lurk here. You are a great group.

Pretty please. Can we go back to discussing books, movies, dogs and other pets, crock pots or even, as an absolute last resort, Kate Gosselin? Thanks :-)

Signed,

Struggled with anorexia for years but am now much fatter than I should be because of meds, even though I exercise as much as I can and eat very healthily.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Thanks, franky and In Addition. But I like In Addition's advice best - go to a bakery and I think I will. I just realized I don't own a loaf pan (or muffin tins, cake pans, etc.). Lol!!

Working Woman said...

Thanks for Going off Topic, I am glad to hear you have overcome your struggle with an eating disorder. Congratulaions, dear.

I agree that these types of issues can be sensitive to discuss with strangers, because there is no way to know if you are dealing with anyone who has a history of eating disorders/exercise issues. I do have this background, which is why I felt inclined to respond and give my two cents worth.

Fat shaming and skinny shaming should not happen, ever. I think that is the point most of us were trying to get across, that a person's appearance or exercise choices do not reflect their character.

So thank you for your input, and I am so glad to hear that you currently live a healthy life. Gd bless you, hon. :-)

Dmasy said...

Thanks For Going Off Topic...thank you for your calm wisdom.

Last week, on Dr. Phil -- guests were a father and daughter. She survived an abduction after her mother and brother and a neighbor were killed in her home.

I read her book, "The Girl In the Leaves" while flying. The story is sad, but the book is not really that good. I would not recommend it. There are much better true crime writers.

Jane said...

Improbable Dreams said... 65
Love all the recipes & fitness threads, and...because I'm not shy (lol) I'll ask again: anyone wanna share tips re gardening?

I'm reading a great new book, written by Margaret Roach, a CEO who worked long ago for Martha Stewart, but ventured off on her own to explore her deep-rooted passion, gardening. The NYT calls her website (A Way To Garden) the best one out there. Here's an excerpt from her latest book, BACKYARD PARABLES: Lessons on Gardening, and Life.

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Thanks for this recommendation!

Jane said...

In Addition said... 56
Erica, ever hear of a thing called patient confidentiality? IMO, blogging about a patient is very unprofessional.

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I don't see that patient confidentiality was breached here. No name was mentioned and the description mentioned might even be an amalgam of more than one person. Who knows? Health practitioners often mention patients when describing cases in journals, blogs, news articles w/o mentioning names and there doesn't seem to be concern over them doing so.

All This Is That said...

In Addition said... 62

LoveMyGrandsons,

My best recipe for fantastic banana bread:

Find a great bakery. lol

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Amen to that one! Over the holidays, I wanted to bake a lemon poppyseed tea bread. I found a recipe, checked it out and decided that after I bought and assembled all of the ingredients, baked it, cleaned up the mess, it would be so much easier to just get it from the stand at the farmers market, which is what I did. It was wonderful, and in fact cost no more than what I would have spent for all of the ingredients...and since I'm not a baker, it tasted better, too!

Jolie Jacquelyn said...

I'm not sure who recommended the PBS series "Frontier House" on youtube, but I want to say thank you. I spent a dreary day last week having my own little marathon & I thoroughly enjoyed it. I've read that 2 of the 3 couples have broken up since the show ended, but the good news is that the younger couple are still together, & have 3 children.

Now on to some of the other "House" shows available for viewing.

NJGal51 said...

BAKING SODA! The shells peeled right off the hard boiled eggs without a problem. Thanks Wowser!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Thanks For Going Off Topic, very well said. Thank you.

I'm glad you are doing so much better. I understand the weight gain that can happen with some meds as I have that issue, too. God bless, hon.

Ex Nurse said...

When human beings are all the product of cloning, then I think that it would be fair to judge us all by the same standard.  Until then, there are just too many variables, including age, genetics, metabolism and lifestyle.  

I was extremely fit when I was in my twenties, even after having three children. I was so overly focused on my food choices and working out that it interfered with my relationships and other aspects of my life suffered. I was extremely critical of people that did not slave away in the gym--Did I mention that I was in my 20s? Some of this I chalk up to an unhealthy compulsion on my part, and the rest I chalk up to the inexperience of youth. Life has a way of humbling those who practice the sin of hubris and I was no exception. And, by dismissing everyone that didn't meet my standard of fitness, I isolated myself and missed out on a lot of relationships and experiences.  

My goal, today, is to lead a balanced life that does not overly focus on only one aspect--such as my weight. At almost 60 years of age, I now walk my 2 labradoodles around a flat 3-mile trail at an in-city lake with my 2 labradoodles, just about every day.  I walk at a leisurely pace, stop to talk other doglovers, gazing at the wildlife and laughing at my dogs' goofy joy in romping in the off-leash area. Sometimes, I stop at one of the many coffee shops in the surrounding neighborhood. 

I will take that any day over my old regimen, which took the same amount of time, but included none of the above. As I already said, my goal is to lead a balanced life.
 


Ex Nurse said...

When human beings are all the product of cloning, then I think that it would be fair to judge us all by the same standard.  Until then, there are just too many variables, including age, genetics, metabolism and lifestyle.  

I was extremely fit when I was in my twenties, even after having three children. I was so overly focused on my food choices and working out that it interfered with my relationships and other aspects of my life suffered. I was extremely critical of people that did not slave away in the gym--Did I mention that I was in my 20s? Some of this I chalk up to an unhealthy compulsion on my part, and the rest I chalk up to the inexperience of youth. Life has a way of humbling those who practice the sin of hubris and I was no exception. And, by dismissing everyone that didn't meet my standard of fitness, I isolated myself and missed out on a lot of relationships and experiences.  

My goal, today, is to lead a balanced life that does not overly focus on only one aspect--such as my weight. At almost 60 years of age, I now walk my 2 labradoodles around a flat 3-mile trail at an in-city lake with my 2 labradoodles, just about every day.  I walk at a leisurely pace, stop to talk other doglovers, gazing at the wildlife and laughing at my dogs' goofy joy in romping in the off-leash area. Sometimes, I stop at one of the many coffee shops in the surrounding neighborhood. 

I will take that any day over my old regimen, which took the same amount of time, but included none of the above. As I already said, my goal is to lead a balanced life.
 


In Addition said...

Lol, I am not a baker. I can make good biscuits though. I learned that one from my great grandmother...simply equal ammounts of flour, crisco and buttermilk. They melt in your mouth.

I am out of the overweight talk..... I'll just keep an open mind and move along.


miloandjack

@Kateplusmy8 I can imagine when all the kids have different activities...the dinner table is alive w/constant chatter! Never a dull moment!

This was tweeted last night.....now, does this mean she has crossed over to the last stage of CWS? Isn't she sad?



fidosmommy said...

I agree that it's very interesting how all of a sudden there is lots of chatter about the many and varied activities of the Gosselin bunch.
Gee, wonder what started that?

Hi Milo! Will you be askin Kate if she's plannin to make some banana bread next? Or maybe some comment about how she's so healthy because she eats right and runs every day?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

In Addition said... 79
Lol, I am not a baker. I can make good biscuits though. I learned that one from my great grandmother...simply equal ammounts of flour, crisco and buttermilk. They melt in your mouth.
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No baking powder or baking soda?

Kate is Krazy said...

I think it's sad that America is known for its 'overweight aggressive citizens.' A stereotype but something I hope that change as we learn more about healthy living and put it into practice. I think enough talk about this and time to move on

MJ said...

OrangeCrusher1 said...
Saying this for real, poor Milo. Her twits, as read here, plus her absence, indicate something major, and depressing, in her life recently. Didn't she mention emptying urinals? And where's her bff internet buddy KG in these trying times? MIA or off to other hobbies. Internet fantasy life can be cruel. Oh wait, it's not real.
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I agree with you Orange.
Milo may be a wackadoodle fan as far as Kate is concerned, but she's mentioned dealing with some serious things recently. Call me crazy, but if it's true, I empathize with what she's going thru, but where is her BFF, Kate? And if it's true (or even if it isn't), will Milo ever realize Kate was MIA and offered not a peep of encouragement or support when she needed it?
As with all things Kate, this should be proof to them that their "friendship" is one-sided, but it won't even register. They'll excuse Kate for being soooooo busy - again.

Dmasy said...

Ex Nurse...your post was inspiring.

We learn so much as we "mature", don't we. My days of being a runner are long over. Weight is more difficult to manage and settles in disconcerting new locations. I still try to eat right and stay active, but I am more relaxed in my expectations.

I have a friend who got a tummy tuck about a year ago. It was costly. She is disappointed in the results. I think she might have wanted to purchase the figure of her youth. She does look better -- in clothes. But, reality is that bodies change. Skin changes. Mother Nature has a plan and she will win!

Suze said...

Ah, ha! Thanks everyone for adding pieces to the puzzle that finally came together.

Adding baking soda to the water you boil eggs in makes sense in making them easier to peel.
The baking soda must neutralize the egg's PH the same way letting them sit in the frigde for a few weeks does naturally.

I love it when a mystery is solved!

fidosmommy said...

Does anyone know what has happened to Leigh Shahan (the Walmart sign lady), Brownie (the expired cereal lady) and Miami Heat (ipad and socks lady)? What about Austin Martin (the
gathering in MO guy)? Are they still around?

Formerly Duped said...

Dmasy said... 85

Ex Nurse...your post was inspiring.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I agree with you Dmasy about Ex-Nurse's post and also the wanting to reclaim youth, which is bombarded via TV, print ads, films etc. There is a new product out every week it seems to rejuvenate your skin, reduce wrinkles,fade brown spots or a diet to return one's girlish figure or hair care to get of rid of greys and frizzies. Most ads in general are about health or beauty it seems. Everything in moderation- I make an attempt to look nice, feel healthy and exercise and eat properly, but it's true you can miss out on so much with being obsesses by fighting Mother Nature.Also sadly you can try every trick in the book and still get cancer or other health issues. :(

PatK said...

The only ones I haven't seen around for awhile are the Miami Heat lady and the Cereal Lady. lol

Ex Nurse said...

Dmaesy said...
We learn so much as we "mature", don't we.
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I think the biggest lesson I have learned is that when I held others to an impossible or unrealistic standard, I was also holding ourselves to that standard, too. When my self-esteem hinges on a physical characteristic, my marriage, my children, my job etc., if that thing collapses then I so do I. When I can forgive myself for my own imperfections, I can also forgive, or, at least, tolerate others. I think that our flaws are the most interesting part...

From Where I Sit said...

I will take that any day over my old regimen, which took the same amount of time, but included none of the above. As I already said, my goal is to lead a balanced life.

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Excellent post. Isn't it interesting that as we age our priorities in life, and what we value most of all, have changed? We look back over our young adulthood and realize that our passions and what consumed us then, whether it be in our physical appearance/self image, our careers, or what have you, so many times no longer makes for our balanced life today. If we could, would we go back to that period in our lives to take time to smell the flowers? I'm not so sure that I'd want to go back, but if I did, knowing what I know now, there would be quite a few changes that I would make.

I think about one of Emerson's essays on "Experience," in which he wrote: "The years teach much which the days never knew." So true.

In Addition said...

Opps I forgot to add the baking powder and a pinch of salt for good luck...Ty, Tweet. No baking powder= hockey puck

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Ex Nurse, I agree with Dmasy and Formerly Duped about your post. Very well put, thank you for sharing, hon.

All This Is That said...

Fidosmommy asked..."Does anyone know what has happened to Leigh Shahan (the Walmart sign lady), Brownie (the expired cereal lady) and Miami Heat (ipad and socks lady)? What about Austin Martin (the
gathering in MO guy)? Are they still around?"

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Leigh pops in every now and then. Brownie has been gone for a long time, never surfaced unless she did so under another name. Nothing from Miami Heat Wife, and Austin seems to have directed his devotion (and maybe lust) to Kirstie Alley!

Thanks For Going Off Topic said...

Thanks, everyone who responded to my last post with concern. I'm doing well today inspite of needing those pesky meds. I think my first post here was to thank people for recommending Woman Within, which explains my screen name.

As I said, I don't usually discuss weight issues. My main concern was that this blog remain the happy place where I like to lurk and learn.

I'm breaking my own rule again to share that I think there were only about 5 years of my adult life when I wasn't being told either to "eat more and exercise less" or to "eat less and exercise more." I can deal with that from medical professionals and immediate family, but my internal reaction to others commenting on it to my face, is a great big "word my mama never let me say" you! However well-meaning you are please don't address weight issues lightly with people you know and don't judge people on their weight.

Changing the subject now: Anyone else planning to watch Downton Abbey tonight? Poor Edith. Am I alone in thinking that Series 3 is going downhill and becoming increasingly soap-like. Still lots of lovely costumes and good acting though.




Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Downtown Abbey here here! Can't wait. I'll be home from out of town just in time. :)

Jane said...

Thanks For Going Off Topic said... 95
Anyone else planning to watch Downton Abbey tonight? Poor Edith. Am I alone in thinking that Series 3 is going downhill and becoming increasingly soap-like. Still lots of lovely costumes and good acting though.

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Just loving this series, it can do no wrong although I do agree with you about the soap-opera slant lately. But it's all good - eye candy :) There's another good show on PBS and the BBC stations called Chatsworth House that's terrific. Follows the everyday running of a castle - so informative and fun. If you like Downton, I think you'd also like this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hz79z

Jane said...

Following the fol-de-rol about the Gosselin's and wanting to find a place where I could add my disgust for the show is what brought me to this and the GWOP blog. I have to say though, as Kate is hopefully fading from view, I'm enjoying the off-topic conversations. Picked up a good pound cake recipe as well as Sockarooni chicken, found others who appreciate good tv, and a cyber-friend who shares advice on a kitchen makeover and much more. Although other blogs may mock us for our discussions, I certainly prefer the friendliness and safety here rather than nonsense about what other blog owners have said and done and how soon the police will show up at their doors (umm...never? Idle threats, I think). Anyway, thanks for having a place where I can sit, put up my crocs, drink a cup, and feel comfy. And snark on Kate and pals when needed.

Millicent said...

I'm sorry to see the fat-bashing on this blog. For those of you who look down on fat people and judge them, I am one of those people. Sorry not to "live up" to the studies. My cholesterol is normal. My heart is healthy. My blood sugar levels are fine. I walk at least one mile per day. But I still meet up with judgemental people every day who believe they are better than me. For years, I bought into the prejudice. Now I accept that I am equal to any one else. I am not a number on a scale. And I chose to judge others by theirgoodness not their weight.

Dmasy said...

Jane, I agree with everything you said. Plus, my reading list has expanded with fantastic recommendations.

I visited another site recently -- had never been there before. They were sympathetic to our outings. But, I would be one of the old-croc-wearing-ladies they aren't impressed with.

Auntie Ann -- where are you? I miss you!

Hubby is deep into football tonight. I will catch up with all things internet.

Pity Party said...

My mother used self-rising flour and basically the same biscuit recipe without baking powder, and they were delicious. The art of biscuit making seems to be a thing of the past and cornbread though I still do make a mean cornbread sometimes but not biscuits. My mother made them every single morning, as did my grandmother. Everybody's biscuits have a different taste and texture. I have to say I liked my grandmothers best. She made them soft. small and very manageable. My mother made them big with a top and bottom crust and they were delicious. I guess I like my grandmother's better because they were not easily obtainable. But if there ever was any left she would make a sausage biscuit or bacon or whatever, put them in a saucer on the stove and cover with a saucer for us to have after school. We would always go through the front door and out the back on our way home to see if we had a biscuit. Those were the days.

In Addition said...

Jane and Dmasy....I join you in the sisterhood of the crocs! Those are my house shoes. Although my toes are in proper alignment, I rarely go barefoot and never wear sandles/flipflops. And truly, I never ever go barefoot outdoors. That's just how I am.

Great Blog said...

This is a great blog and don't let anyone tell you anything different. I enjoy reading and participating here no matter what the topic is.

Dmasy said...

Pity Party, I remember food sitting out on back burners, too. In the old days food was un-refrigerated in a way that we would never consider today. How is that we didn't get sick?

Good memories.

In Addition said...

Pity Party, sounds like very special times! I agree with use of self rising flour instead of all purpose. I gave up on all purpose the morning I made those hockey pucks! I have never had a better biscuit than my greatgranny's!

dotsicle said...

May I comment on the fat/skinny discussion? My daughter (over 21) has been pointed at and whispered about because she was sooo thin ("Crackhead" was the most frequent comment).She has never had an eating disorder. The past 2 years have shown that a five-pound weight gain could stop the whispering, LOL!
As for myself, some years ago a shop owner across the mall from me stopped in to tell me that I was "a little bit fat" (size 10) and that everyone would like me if I lost weight. (Everyone still hates me because I am still the same size, LOL, but at least the daughter isn't a "crackhead" any more.)

Wowser said...

Good for you Millicent!! My father was a heavy man his whole life...his blood levels were normal etc. and he lived a very normal life except for the insensitive nasty people who judged him on outward appearance. He was a hard worker and a beautiful man with a heart as big as his whole body...the irony?? When he struggled with a cancer..not related to weight issues...it was the extra weight that saved his life!! The difference in people who are judgmental and nasty to people who are heavier is that it is clearly evident that beauty is on the inside and there are a lot of "ugly" skinny people in this world.


Dmasy said...

Delicious TV. I am about to watch "Prosecuting Casey Anthony". I want to know the story from this point of view AND I get to look at Rob Lowe!

Helen said...

Jane I enjoyed Chatsworth House also ..really interesting.
Love Downtown Abbey. The CBC here had an interesting show called Serving The Royals about what the staff does for todays Royal family. It's a hard low paying job. It seems they even have to put the toothpaste on Prince Charles toothbrush.
Any Cornation Street viewers here?

In Addition said...

dotsicle, how insulting to you and your daughter. That shop owner would have gotten a FU from me. I am also a size 10. There are some stores I will not venture into, those sub6 kinda places.

I worked with someone who often said, 'it is not how you feel, it's how you look that counts'. such BS

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No, is prosecuting Casey Anthony premiering tonight? You miss so much when you're without tv for a few days lol. I hope it repeats.

Anonymous said...

Look at this LMG, if someone doesnt take care of their personal hygiene, like shower and use deodorant and brush their teeth daily; wouldn't that reflect on their character? I think yes. You would think they are a dirty person who doesnt care about themselves. Why is physical fitness any different? Physical fitness is actually FAR more important than personal hygiene, it's your health!! It's life and death for some people, yet we, as a society, excuse it. Does that put it into perspective? If you can put emphasis on showering, you most certainly put emphasis on physical activity. I hope that helps you understand the my point of view. It's people's health. That's all. I just care :) Like heather and GMO and organic food, LOL!!

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Apparently I've been banned from discussing the harms of GMO foods and the benefits of organic foods. I guess only those in favor of eating GMO foods are allowed to have their say as my last post was not allowed through.

So, I am done.

heather

Dmasy said...

Admin, I think it premiered last night. I have it on DVR. Lifetime tends to repeat everything. I think your chances are very good to catch it.

Katykat said...

Ugghhh...Casey Anthony. Not watching. This happened not too far from my parents' home, and my one younger cousin used to run in the same party circles. His friend did her tattoo. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that she got away w/ murdering her little girl. The injustice is still too fresh in the locals' minds. :(

Working Woman said...

Millicent, you are undoubtedly a beautiful woman, on the inside and out.

Where IS Auntie Ann? I was wondering that the other day. I miss her wit!

Jane said...

Anonymous said... 113
Apparently I've been banned from discussing the harms of GMO foods and the benefits of organic foods. I guess only those in favor of eating GMO foods are allowed to have their say as my last post was not allowed through.
So, I am done.
heather

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Heather,
Can't address why or if your post wasn't permitted but I hope you'll continue to share info on organic foods. It's a conversation my husband and I often have -- I'm pro, he's sorta not really caring about it and doesn't want to pay extra $$. While I may not post about it, I do enjoy the conversation.

White Organza said...

Jolie Jacquelyn, last sunday I spent my whole day watching "Regency House party" on YouTube and posted about it. I don't know if it's my post or not that started you on the different "House" series, but I'm so glad I found somebody with whom I can share my enthousiasm! My favorite ones are "1900 House" and "Regency House Party" (I'm a Jane Austen fan, so that really hit home...). Reality shows where you actually learn something? Who knew?!

And a big bravo to Thanks for Going Off Topic, Ex-Nurse, Millicent and From Where I sit for your thouthful posts. I can see where Butterfly stands regarding physical health but the discussion WAS turning in circle when it came to "good health=caracter" because Butterfly never gave us a definition of what exactly is "caracter" for her. (But that's alright, Butterfly, a post is a post, not a dissertation...) I have the feeling she's using the term in lieu of "self-discipline" which can be one of many many components of what constitute caracter, but certainly not all of it. No one can dispute the fact that Churchill had caracter, but he was overweight, drank way too much and probably died his beloved cigar in his clenching teeth.

All This Is That said...

Heather,
Can't address why or if your post wasn't permitted but I hope you'll continue to share info on organic foods.

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I think perhaps the posts on organic foods were taking a turn where other posters were made to feel insulted because it was implied that they knew nothing about the topic. Passion for a cause is admirable, but not to the point where others are made to feel like they are uneducated and clueless when, in fact, they may very well have done research and come to their own conclusions.

Tatum said...

Heather,

The Admin is always very fair. Maybe you should email her and ask her what is going on. I love all of the food topics and thanks to everyone for sharing them.

Loves to Read said...

I've enjoyed reading, mostly lurking at this blog for a very long time. Kate Gosselin has been off television for almost a year and a half with almost zero chance of ever being back, thank goodness. Over time, this blog has become a delightful internet "meeting place" where readers share information and opinions about movies, television shows, books, cooking, gardening, health issues, etc. As many others do, I find the discussion of these topics interesting and informative.

It is wonderful to have moved on from Kate Gosselin as there really is nothing left to be said about her that hasn't already been discussed a million times. With that said, and with all due respect, I find myself wondering whether the blog is long overdue for a name change, a change in the header graphics and byline, as this blog has clearly, and happily, moved past chronicling every move of Jon and Kate, and TLC.

I know that I am not alone in saying that I would so gladly welcome a fresh new look and name to match our new direction. New year, new look, bye bye Kate. Of course, that doesn't mean we can't discuss Kate or the Gosselins should something ever come up, but it would only be one fleeting topic of conversation amongst many others. That is actually the situation here now anyway. So many different topics are brought up and we move around from one discussion to the next. Updating the blog to match its new identity would be fabulous. The bonus is it would be a huge dent to Kate's ego!

ElisabethK said...

Dmasy said... 109
Delicious TV. I am about to watch "Prosecuting Casey Anthony". I want to know the story from this point of view AND I get to look at Rob Lowe!
January 20, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Rob Lowe is in this movie about a killer,too? He starred in that Drew Peterson movie also (playing Drew). That movie was ridiculous, IMO. It bore very little similarity to the real people involved in the case.

Dmasy said...

Prosecuting Casey wasn't bad. They tried to inject facts with emotions. Rob Lowe does a good job. Lots of look alike actors. It is still not clear -- I guess it never will be -- how the jury arrived at the not guilty decision.

localyocul said...

Katykat said... 115
Ugghhh...Casey Anthony. Not watching. This happened not too far from my parents' home, and my one younger cousin used to run in the same party circles. His friend did her tattoo. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that she got away w/ murdering her little girl. The injustice is still too fresh in the locals' minds. :(

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Just curious. Which partying crowd did your cousin run with? She had her original high school friends, the Amy Huzienga/Ricardo Morales group, the Lake Vag (yes I know) group, then the Tony Lazzaro/Fusian group. The case gripped me and I know way too many details than I should LOL

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Unknown said...

I think we've all learned something the last few days.

We've learned that with no moderation, the idiot loves to post the real life names of posters, their families and even their photos. That freaks everyone out, wanting this blog to be ''safe'', and asking Admin to moderate the blog.

Admin puts the blog on moderation, and now posters are ''safe''. However, when the blog is on moderation, it takes forever for your comment to be posted, and that slows everything down to a near stop.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't!!
Anyone have any suggestions?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Based on the jury interviews I watched I think they thought the prosecution had to "prove" she did it, not just prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Huge difference. Huge. Either they didn't listen to directions or they're stupid or both. Sad and frustrating.

Loves to Read said...

Remona Blue said... 124

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Remona, I'm not finding it takes forever to have comments posted. Admin is posting them fairly quickly. I think it's more a case of regulars having left or gone into lurking mode for various reasons. Or, there really is nothing much to say about Kate anymore, thankfully. I like not having the anonymous troll sheeple messing up the place.

grandee4 said...

ElizabethK and Sleepless, thank you feon the links to Nina Feye's radio show. I listened a few times, especially when BM was on. WOW, was looking at some of the podcast from back then. GWOP's Maggie, Werny Girl, Preesi were callers. I'll have to go back and listen. I was listening when Nina had her change of heart about Kate.
Anyway, I did hear Milo's voice, she sounds much older then I thought she was. I would say maybe 68-70. She has a Miss. accent.
What in the hell does she have in common with Kate. Oh, hears an idea, she can be the new laundry lady. Fold all Kate's unnawears.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

To anonymous--FYI I did not "leave" personal info up. I would never do that. If that happened its because I was either asleep or busy or didnt see it, and same with the staff.

As for your other harsh comments, I make decisions based on what I believe is best. I'm not always right but that happens with a big blog, but I am always trying to make the best decisions that I can for the blog. Sorry you weren't pleased.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Considering I've been on the road or in the air the past four days covering the country from CA to South Carolina id say I'm doing pretty well. Although most of the credit goes to the pool boys.

Unknown said...

Loves to Read said... 126
''Remona, I'm not finding it takes forever to have comments posted. Admin is posting them fairly quickly. I think it's more a case of regulars having left or gone into lurking mode for various reasons.''
''I like not having the anonymous troll sheeple messing up the place. ''
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I agree that since Admin is back, the posts are being approved much faster. That was not the case the last couple of days. I suppose you're right about leaving and/or lurking.....and I agree that it is nice to not have to deal w/the odious troll!!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Remona Blue said... 124
I think we've all learned something the last few days.

We've learned that with no moderation, the idiot loves to post the real life names of posters, their families and even their photos. That freaks everyone out, wanting this blog to be ''safe'', and asking Admin to moderate the blog.

Admin puts the blog on moderation, and now posters are ''safe''. However, when the blog is on moderation, it takes forever for your comment to be posted, and that slows everything down to a near stop.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't!!
Anyone have any suggestions?
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These aren't suggestions, but I'll post what I think anyway.

First of all, the information from the "outings" was obtained from information those who were outed had voluntarilly posted on the internet via their FB or from sharing an experience they had that ended up in the newspapers. There are many posters here who have NOT been outed and that is because they've offered no information about themselves via other sources that are available on the internet. Those few who were outed were outed more than once because the psycho freak who is doing it had only info on those few. They couldn't glean info from others. In other words, the outed the same people here more than once. Is that understood?

By putting this blog on moderation that person has accomplished just what they wanted. Comments are down and the people who comment here are scared because they have no understanding of the workings of the internet with regard to how one can be "outed." There is no super secret tracker that can find you and your family and photos unless you give out where you can be found. Tracking your IP will not give someone all your personal information.

In other words, you've been punked to put it nicely.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tweet I tend to agree. I'm not assigning blame but the fact is it was a Facebook group off site that was looked at for outings. Never this blog. They just came back to the blog to post their findings.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

All this, that's exactly it. I love talking food and eat very specifically mysel, some organic mostly farmers market, but I won't let this blog be a forum to insult those who don't as uninformed. I gave many warnings, they were ignored. Enough is enough.

Dmasy said...

Tweed-le De, you described very well how I got on the troll's radar screen.

I don't know if that was true for Dwindle or some of the others.

I don't hold Admin responsible for what happened. I am regretful that her blog was contaminated by a sick person's attempt to embarrass me.

I was cautioned that if someone is determined, intelligent and of evil intent, no one is safe from them on the internet.

I chose to take a risk and the first attempt opened a back door for a troll.

(Second attempt, however, was quite successful and we are working on a meeting and getting to know each other in a VERY safe format that has not been trampled.)

I am grateful that Admin put us on moderation until any/all troublemakers get bored and go somewhere else to create mischief.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 133
Tweet I tend to agree. I'm not assigning blame but the fact is it was a Facebook group off site that was looked at for outings. Never this blog. They just came back to the blog to post their findings.
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It was obvious when the people outed were outed more than once. In other words they did not (because they could not) out others each night until they'd outed a lot of people -- only those few who exposed themselves on the created FB page and they did it over and over.

What they did was cowardly and psychotic and they took advantage of everyone here who doesn't understand the workings of the internet.

Unknown said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 132
''Those few who were outed were outed more than once because the psycho freak who is doing it had only info on those few. They couldn't glean info from others. In other words, the outed the same people here more than once. Is that understood?

By putting this blog on moderation that person has accomplished just what they wanted. Comments are down and the people who comment here are scared because they have no understanding of the workings of the internet with regard to how one can be "outed." There is no super secret tracker that can find you and your family and photos unless you give out where you can be found. Tracking your IP will not give someone all your personal information.

In other words, you've been punked to put it nicely. ''
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Are you saying that I've been punked? I know that it was the same people being outed over and over, and the reason that others have not been outed. I think that those that don't understand how the ones doing the outing get the information are the ones that are now afraid to post. THEY are as safe as they've always been....unless they reveal too much personal information....and I have not.

fidosmommy said...

Reason #8 for not having a Facebook account.
Less info for SlooperSleuth to paw through.
I never did understand the thinking behind FB, but then I also never understood why I would want my telephone to take pictures, either. I'm way behind the times.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Dmasy said... 136

I am grateful that Admin put us on moderation until any/all troublemakers get bored and go somewhere else to create mischief.
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Mark my words, Dmasy, that won't happen as long as there are blogs denigrating Kate. We'll always have troublemakers. They've been around for years. I haven't seen one of them even suggest leaving or calling a truce. Sad but it's a fact, bank on it.

Mel said...

Too bad that this blog is paying the price for something that started elsewhere. Doesn't seem fair.
I don't mind posts about organic food, but the ones in question were pretty disrespectful in tone.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Remona Blue said... 138
Are you saying that I've been punked? I know that it was the same people being outed over and over, and the reason that others have not been outed. I think that those that don't understand how the ones doing the outing get the information are the ones that are now afraid to post. THEY are as safe as they've always been....unless they reveal too much personal information....and I have not.
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No, I was not singling you out. I was explaining tho whole situation.

Dmasy said...

Tweet-le De, unfortunately, you are probably correct. It is a sad fact.

ElisabethK said...

Loves to Read said... 121
It is wonderful to have moved on from Kate Gosselin as there really is nothing left to be said about her that hasn't already been discussed a million times. With that said, and with all due respect, I find myself wondering whether the blog is long overdue for a name change, a change in the header graphics and byline, as this blog has clearly, and happily, moved past chronicling every move of Jon and Kate, and TLC.

I know that I am not alone in saying that I would so gladly welcome a fresh new look and name to match our new direction. New year, new look, bye bye Kate. Of course, that doesn't mean we can't discuss Kate or the Gosselins should something ever come up, but it would only be one fleeting topic of conversation amongst many others. That is actually the situation here now anyway. So many different topics are brought up and we move around from one discussion to the next. Updating the blog to match its new identity would be fabulous. The bonus is it would be a huge dent to Kate's ego!
January 20, 2013 at 7:22 PM

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Loves to Read,
I have thought of this myself many times. Kate is no longer relevant at all. Her career is dead and she is barely alive on twitter. I don't think this blog is a Gosselin blog at all and it would be nice for the graphics and copy to change to reflect that. We talk about so many other things here. Like you said, we can talk about Kate, but it would not be a "Kate" blog (because Kate is gone.) I think it would be great if Admin could take down those Gosselin graphics. It would certainly attract more people. No one is interested in Kate anymore. She is so passe.

Loves to Read said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 140

Dmasy said... 136

I am grateful that Admin put us on moderation until any/all troublemakers get bored and go somewhere else to create mischief.
__________________________________________

Mark my words, Dmasy, that won't happen as long as there are blogs denigrating Kate. We'll always have troublemakers. They've been around for years. I haven't seen one of them even suggest leaving or calling a truce. Sad but it's a fact, bank on it.

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Which is perhaps a reason to consider a refresh of the blog, as I respectfully suggested in my post at number 121. The header of this blog no longer reflects what the blog has become, and it hasn't for quite a while. We've moved so far past boring, irrelevant Kate Gosselin, it might be nice to have the blog reflect that. Kate is over, thank goodness. I'd like to be a part of a blog that is so much, much more than "chronicling Kate, Jon, and TLC"

fidosmommy said...

2 years ago I was walking the treadmill for 1 hour twice a week, riding the stationary bike for 1 hour twice a week, using 10 lb. hand weights and 40 lb. on the weight machine. I
did exercise videos at home (1 hour) 1 day a week and went to Curves a minimum of 3 days a week. I loved every minute of it. Now I cannot do more than walk to the bathroom before I have to sit down and suck in air because my heart and lungs are so bad.

It hurts to hear my progressive disease called an excuse.

I'm thrilled to know some of you can walk your dog, do a plank on a whim, run in place during the commercials. Keep it up. It's what you can do. That is not what I can do. But I bet there are some things I can do that you can't.
Should I tell you that you owe it to yourself to
learn to do it? And then demean you because you can't? I don't think that's productive.
Nor is it kind.

So let's all do what we can and be thankful for it. And what simply is not to be, just won't be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't know how people travel for work all the time. Two big airplane trips within two weeks of each other and I'm beat. I want my weekends back. I am definitely a HOMEBODY. :) My fireants bites have gone through stages. Small pink dots, then disgusting puss filled, and now bright red welts. The one thing they are not doing is getting BETTER. What a world.

Anyway thanks for the Casey Anthony alert, it is indeed replaying in the middle of the night in case anyone else wants to snag it. I will.

I'm going to do a Lance Armstrong post. I missed the interviews being out of town, but am able to catch them now now that it's online. I know we talked about it a lot so don't feel you have to rehash it unless there's something new to say which they're certainly may be. Otherwise you can use the thread for general discussion.

Enjoy everyone, it's good to be back. Have a great MLK day tomorrow if you are lucky enough to have it off, and inauguration day.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Loves to Read, welcome by the way.

A refresh woud be nice.....although I have this very funny feeling that we are about to hear some big "announcement" from team Kate. About a show or something.

I don't know anything more than you. Just a funny feeling.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Reason #8 for not having a Facebook account.
Less info for SlooperSleuth to paw through.
I never did understand the thinking behind FB, but then I also never understood why I would want my telephone to take pictures, either. I'm way behind the times.

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That's the reason I didn't join the FB group from day one even though I wasn't against it. I didn't trust FB, and said so, but wouldn't impose my comfort level on others if they wanted to try to figure it out. There is nothing "secure" about FB. They have been highly criticized for this. You're living under a rock if you haven't heard that FB private settings aren't really private. So FB at your own risk. FB is a double edged sword. It has its issues, but it's incredible to keep in touch with close family and friends so easily.

fidosmommy said...

How many of Kate's "125,000" twitter followers do you think will actually be real enough to watch any new show of Kate's?

grandee4 said...

Did anyone see the show after Casey Anthony movie, Beyond the Headlines? It comes on again Mon night after movie. The Drew Peterson movie. I don't think I want to see that one, something about that man, I don't know. I followed Casey's trial and just wanted to see how close the movie comes to the actual trial.

Unknown said...

fidosmommy said... 149
''How many of Kate's "125,000" twitter followers do you think will actually be real enough to watch any new show of Kate's? ''
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I don't know how many would watch, but I got SUCH a kick out of reading this...which could answer your question:

''Examiner.com - 4 days ago
The fan asked, "@Kateplusmy8 gm kate ...any plans of comming back on Tv miss your show +your kids gb". That comment was followed up by an unrelated spam comment. Of Kate's 126,338 followers, only six people thought the tease was worthy of a retweet ...''

Starz22 said...

Please don't watch anything trying to make a buck from the tot killing mom. I hate to give Nancy Grace any credit...but I don't want to speak her name...

Don't give ratings , please don't watch....don't give an audience to where it does NOT belong.Don;t show her that money can be made b/c many want to follow the story. She is waiting for the ok from the public to make money...if you watch...she wins!!!!

Unknown said...

I was curious about something that was posted a few months ago. Sorry if this is off topic but its been on my mind. Someone here recommended using vinegar and water to clean with. Now I tried it and the result was nice at first but then I got gnats everywhere I used the vinegar. We had to call an exterminator it was that bad. They were in the sinks. This was in October/November and it was in the 40s here. Has anyone heard of this happening? If the person is still on here that uses vinegar/water, what is the ratio to use?

Unknown said...

Also regarding FB, I like playing the games on there but don't want to know anyone personally (just send me a chicken or a cow!!). I used hotmail to join and made up everything else even my name there. I also wouldn't go on fb on my phone. Very dangerous.

Jane said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 147
Loves to Read, welcome by the way.

A refresh woud be nice.....although I have this very funny feeling that we are about to hear some big "announcement" from team Kate. About a show or something.

I don't know anything more than you. Just a funny feeling.

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I feel the same thing and think I posted it, although perhaps not. I have no solid reason to believe she has a show. Just a sense, maybe based on past behaviors.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Having trouble posting and waiting to see if this goes through.

Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said...

Over on Khate's twitter feed, someone said, "Maybe Mady has Khate locked in her room" because if Khate's twitter absence. I thought that was funny. by the way, in case ANYONE out there does not know it, Lance Armstrong is a SOCIOPATH and Khate Gro$$elin is a SOCIOPATH. They are two vile, disgusting turds.

Jane said...

Remona Blue said... 138
Are you saying that I've been punked? I know that it was the same people being outed over and over, and the reason that others have not been outed. I think that those that don't understand how the ones doing the outing get the information are the ones that are now afraid to post. THEY are as safe as they've always been....unless they reveal too much personal information....and I have not.

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Exactly! If you post here with a unique name that's not used on other blogs and avoid sharing personal (name, email, hometown, specific workplace, kids names, etc) info, you're fine.

I'll never understand what the joy is in a hateful person posting someone's name and more. It happens on both the fan and non-fan blogs and please don't think this is unique to the Gosselin world - it happens all over the 'net.

In the course of my work, I post on and visit many blogs both big and small. This really is a safe place.

Working Woman said...

Good morning all!

It is weird how suddenly Kate's twitter is so dead now. I wonder what's going on.

Unknown said...

fidosmommy said... 149
''How many of Kate's "125,000" twitter followers do you think will actually be real enough to watch any new show of Kate's? ''
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I don't know how many would watch, but I got SUCH a kick out of reading this...which could answer your question:

''Examiner.com - 4 days ago
The fan asked, "@Kateplusmy8 gm kate ...any plans of comming back on Tv miss your show +your kids gb". That comment was followed up by an unrelated spam comment. Of Kate's 126,338 followers, only six people thought the tease was worthy of a retweet ...''

Working Woman said...

There's an article praising Kate for settling into her "normal" life and doing things with the kids, such as driving them to activities, instead of chasing fame.

Personally, I don't buy it for a minute. I feel that if an opportunity in the entertainment business presented itself, she would jump at it so fast no one would know what hit them. The problem is, she's probably not getting any offers or opportunities.

Although she has proven to be the type whok, the second you're sure her 15 minutes are up and you'll never see her in the limelight again, she comes back somehow, someway...

TxBR549Iam said...

butterfly said... 125
I find the excuse making utterly ridiculous. No, not everyone who has bad hygiene has depression. In the military, when someone has bad hygiene, we put them on a shower watch. That means someone is in charge of making sure that person puts on a clean uniform daily, showers daily, uses deodorant, and brushes their teeth- is it because they are depressed? NO, it's because they are dirty! In the civilian you can't control each other that way, but sure as hell think about that way and if you deny that, you are lying. Maybe a small, slight percentage of those people have a mental problem, but the rest are just plain dirty people.
There really is no excuse for not being physically active. Someone mentioned a car accident- ok, how common is that? Lets get real. The MAJORITY of Americans, and humans for that matter, have enough time to fit in a work out. It does not have to be all at one time!! That is archaic thinking. You can do jumping jacks in the morning, walk your dog in the evening, do sit ups while commercials are on (and dont say you dont watch tv) take 5 minutes that you are online and instead do squats or take a whopping 30 seconds and do a plank. It's not rocket science. We all know, take the stairs and not the elevator, park farther away to add steps. Stop being lazy. Because yes, by not taking care of your health, you are being immoral, just as surely as smoking or drinking is immoral because of the bad health effects. If you have kids, you have a duty to take care of yourself and not be a burden to them. If you get state assistance, you have a duty to take of yourself and reduce your burden to your fellow citizens who are taking care of your medical costs. Dont be selfish. A few minutes a day. For your health. I have high cholesterol and I dont take meds for it because I work out. A freaking miracle.

January 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM

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I have caught up on all the posts and wow....this is one of the most disgusting and uninformed posts I have read. Someone needs to expand her horizons, IMO.

So it seems like you have high cholesterol. You must have a predisposition perhaps genetic for it since you maintain a healthy lifestyle. Cholesterol and Diabetes Type 2 are both easily controlled by diet and exercise for most. I also have high cholesterol and high tryglycerides, maintain a healthy weight, diet and excerise. Now my cholesteral levels are great, yet my triglycerides remain high...even on 4grams of Lovaza a day!

I am sure you know that a no fat diet , even a low fat diet can lead to serious health complications. Is not, look it up, even Livestrong has articles on the subject.

You question car accidents, 'How common is that?'...I really don't know what world you live in. I was very athletic in high school and in my senior year was involved in a very tragic car accident. Let's see, I had a head injury, a nasty broken nose, abdominal injuries and badly injured knee. I could not complete my season of volleyball and missed track all together. I also lost a basketball scholarship. Math became my enemy and I had to change majors in college. Oh, I forgot to mention, I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. In the end that is what saved my life as the steering wheel went through the driver's seat. And the driver at fault was intoxicated and did die in the E.R.. Was he immoral, a man w/o character or perhaps a man with a predispositon toward alcoholism?

Part 1

TxBR549Iam said...

Part 2
Moving forward, I survered from severe gall bladder disease. Even with a well balanced diet and plenty of physical activity. Hiking and cycling being front and center. And then my long abdominal scar turned into a '7'. Meanwhile back at the ranch, a few years later, I was doing crunches and up popped a ventral hernia....more surgery. Followup orders" no more activity which put a strain on the abdominal muscles, ever. That sure does cover about everything!

So walking became my physical activity. And guess what...before turning 50, I had a heart attack while walking. Egads!!! And all this time staying on a well balanced diet and at a normal weight. To this a day, there is a tiny bottle of nitroglycerine with me at all times as I still suffer from angina. I will tell you one thing, I am not overwhelmed with stress or anxiety...too laid back.

And you talk about folks not being hygienic...not depressed, but 'dirty' and being unhealthy as 'immoral' and being overweight as having no character or morals.

So, you won't entertain ...mental illness, genetic predisposition, socio-economic levels, accidents, physical illness, medications, ect?

Do you ever venture out into the real world? Open your mind.

Oh, btw, last week I spent a great deal of time outdoors, walking on the greenbelt. By Friday, I had a sore throat. Saturday, a bad cough and I had to shorten my weekend roadtrip. Why I believe I have cedar fever! I don't think it was caused by the casino environment. I guess I must be immoral. I look upon my trip as giving back to the Chickasaw people.

Sorry for the rant, well, not really.

Dmasy, aside from the cough and feeling yucky, overall, I had a good time!

Ty



TxBR549Iam said...

I hope everyone has a great day ahead. I am going to be watching 2 dvr'd football games even though I know the winners and losers, already.

Anyone watching Kevin Bacon's new show, 'The Following' tonight? I read it was sort of gruesome, so I have it scheduled to dvr.

Have a good one or two!

Winsomeone said...

"(Second attempt, however, was quite successful and we are working on a meeting and getting to know each other in a VERY safe format that has not been trampled.)"

Comments to this blog are way down..could it be because this "in group" that doesn't exist now has it's own private forum? I figured this was a bad idea when it was first mentioned. Bad for this blog, not bad for the ladies who wanted to go private.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous this time. Win I wondered that. Am I the only one who thinks it's a bad idea to break off into a little private group? The people in it never post here anymore. We've lost the backbone here and honestly I'm ticked. Come back ladies.

Jane said...

Working Woman said... 153
Good morning all!

It is weird how suddenly Kate's twitter is so dead now. I wonder what's going on.
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Eventually, info will surface - it always does! It is odd that she went from manic, pre-holiday tweeting - busy, busy, shop, shop, memories to silence. I still think there's a show involved.

Deanna recently tweeted (not to Kate)
Deanna Bell ‏@deannatweeting
@xxxxxxx Working on a new TV comedy--it's been fun, just long hours! I'm glad you got the card! Miss you&I'm a phone call away! XOXO

SeeSaw said...

I think a lot of the quiet here is due to the quiet in Kate's world. I also believe some people are not posting as much hoping those who did the outings will go play somewhere else.

Also some have been quick to blame those who were outed for being dumb enough to put things on the Internet. That's unfair. There was an obituary posted. Not something you can personally keep off of the Internet.

This blog has evolved and will continue to evolve. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

Dmasy said...

TxBR -- is your avatar a morel mushroom? I had to ask. Kinda' hard to tell in the tiny photo. My mind went somewhere else for a minute.

Glad you had a great trip!

Dmasy said...

TxBr -- I am going to look up Cedar fever. I never heard of it. I learn something here all the time!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

New post on Lance Armstrong, thought we could screen the Oprah interview together.

TxBR549Iam said...

Dmasy, that is a 6'' spearhead I found while on one of my hunts. I think it looks like a piece of pertrified meatloaf.

I confirmed it with my contacts at TARL and a professor at A&M.

I have some amazing finds. I had such a huge collection of points that I pretty much gave them away, most to kids.

I was leaving TARL one day and my contact followed me to my car. He was trying to talk me into leaving a piece with the lab, so they could further study a piece of sediment attatched to a find which no one in the lab could identify. I wasn't about to leave that find at the lab. Anyways, he noticed a brick in the trunk, examined it, ask questions and proceeded to tell me it was keystone brick made in the 1800's...not cut to fit atop an archway, but molded for the purpose. So, I donated to the small town museum close to where I found it.

Lol, I guess I could write a book about my adventures, finds and encounters with folks,wild critters, et al

I read that you just returned from a short vacation. I love short getaways!

JoyinVirginia said...

Hope everyone is having a great day! Sports have been taking up lots of our time recently, watching basketball, football playoffs, Andi haven't caught up with all posts.
Did want to share, Saturday night live had very funny opening this past Saturday, the guy who imitates Piers Morgan opened the show with his talk show ”guests” Lance, Teo,, and Jodie Foster! If you missed it, just go to the NBC site and look for SNL January 19 cold opening.
Oooh, refresh of website header, great idea! Reality TV Kids, keeping up with exploitation of children in the wild wild world of reality TV. With questions like, even of someone is legally an adult when they film things like ”Buckwild”, are they really able to fully understand three implications?
All kinds of fun topics and discussion are out there. Ms Kreider is boring. We still might see her show up, along with Tonya Harding, commenting on something like ”I love the 90s”.

PatK said...

Anonymous said... 167
Anonymous this time. Win I wondered that. Am I the only one who thinks it's a bad idea to break off into a little private group? The people in it never post here anymore. We've lost the backbone here and honestly I'm ticked. Come back ladies.

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I'm not "ticked"...just sad that they're not here. They are good women and I enjoyed their postings.


Pity Party said...

I have been watching the old reruns of SNL on MVT (I think) and I forgot how funny it was as haven't watched it lately. The one I was watching had the guy doing James Carville who I have always loved to watch (as well as his wife). He had him pegged. Impressionists amaze me. Does anyone know if the new Obama (dead on) is the one that was on America's Got Talent as one could easily forget that he was not actually Obama when watching him - he was that good.

As far as people breaking away, it was bound to happen as KT falls further and further off the radar. Even if she does have a new show, who is to say it will last as she has such a poor work ethic just can't see her giving anything her all for a prolonged period of time. People on sitcoms work very, very hard with a lot of hurry up and wait which we all know she doesn't do well always wanting to rush through everything, to do what I don't know. Even the Grand Canyon - ok - move along, nothing to see here just wasted space. I had always wanted to go there after watching the movie Grand Canyon as it was described as a life-altering event there. The only thing that impresses that one is the little red light on the camera that says record.

the mad hobbit said...

Patk, I miss those ladies,too. Heck, l still miss Hippie Chick!
IMHO, the decrease in posts has more to do with the harsh words about weight issues,etc, than anything else. I am scrolling by certain people's post because they come off as resentful and hurtful. If I don't read, I can't respond.
Being a different strokes for different folks kinda girl, I hope we'll move on soon.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this blog fizzled not because of the faniacs but because we couldn't be nice to each other?

It's a thought.

Anonymous said...

TxBR549Iam said...
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Maybe it's just the time of year, but TxBr I see your name and automatically think "Tax Break 549? What is Tax Break 549?"

Can you tell I am doing end of fiscal year crap?

ElisabethK said...

the mad hobbit said... 177
Patk, I miss those ladies,too. Heck, l still miss Hippie Chick!
IMHO, the decrease in posts has more to do with the harsh words about weight issues,etc, than anything else. I am scrolling by certain people's post because they come off as resentful and hurtful. If I don't read, I can't respond.
Being a different strokes for different folks kinda girl, I hope we'll move on soon.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this blog fizzled not because of the faniacs but because we couldn't be nice to each other?
It's a thought.
January 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM
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No, I really do not think that is the case at all. This blog is fizzling out for two reasons: Kate Gosselin is finished. FOR GOOD. There is nothing more to say about her. She is not going to get another show - no one will touch her. Secondly, I think people were upset about the lack of responsibility and integrity shown when people were allowed to post personal info about others posters here. Many have departed and they won't be back - they were disrespected and mistreated because there was no concern about protecting the blog and its posters.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elisabeth I have to say, that hurts my feelings. "No concern" for those outed? I wanted nothing MORE than for it to stop. It ticked me off to no end! I was royally pissed.

I firmly believed however, that making a big ole fuss about it on the blog, freaking out as much as I was on the inside, was EXACTLY what they wanted and would have made it worse. They would have said ha-ha look a Admin freaking out. I firmly believed that going on moderation was EXACTLY what they wanted. Had you emailed me, I would have expressed outrage, as I did to several that DID choose to email me. We tried going unmoderated and it didn't work, period.

It had NOTHING to do with not being concerned, and everything to do with trying to choose the best strategy to make it STOP. When it became apparent this strategy just wasn't working, I moved on to plan B, moderation. And here we are today. I didn't stubbornly stick to some plan that wasn't working, I gave unmoderated a fair shot at working, it didn't, so I changed the plan! What else can I do? I can't win--now, I didn't go on moderation soon enough for you. I'm sorry. I can't please everyone. All this over something I had NOTHING to do with, a facebook group I never was a part of, but people wanted to find a way to talk off site so they could meet up in person, a wonderful thing for those who want it. I had my reservations and made it clear I wouldn't be meeting up, but if I had tried to stop such an innocent thing, I'm the bad guy. Again, you can't win.

So really, the "Admin doesn't care about us" sentiments are really uncalled for, as every single move I made through this whole debacle was calculated to try to STOP it. Every single move was made to try to protect YOU guys, and had nothing to do with what I wanted. I don't WANT the blog on moderated, whatsoever, and am very annoyed at how we got here, but, it's on moderated, isn't it? Because right now, I do believe that's what's best for YOU. It's certainly not what's best for me, especially since I've been traveling and not around much when I had to do it.

Anyway, this blog isn't about ME and I'm really tired of it being about ME. I am boring. I bore myself. Enough about me. Let's talk about things that really matter. Hint, not me.

Anonymous said...

Weighing in on the weight stuff:

I too have a pretty much lifelong medical prob that disallows any exercise that works the abdominal muscles :( Multiple abdominal sugeries - and my problem is external to the colon yet has strangled off 2 1/2 feet of various portions. NOT FUN. Walking for exercise is sometimes possible. Sometimes not. I am somewhat lucky in that I inherited a "thin" gene. Also, the digestive problems that go with my particular prob often result in a scary low weight. Two years ago I was put on some meds and ballooned weightwise in a month's time. When it was determined the meds were not working, and the side effects were outweighing any good (none) that the meds had, I was pulled off them. In a month's time I was back to my "normal for me" weight. I am 5'4". Normal for me is 112 lbs.

My late mom, for most of her life weighed 98 lbs at 5'2". She walked, swam and ballroom danced yet still developed high cholesterol and type II diabetes in her early 50's like her mother before her and her mother before her. Fingers crossed that it'll pass me. No amount of diet changes made a difference for my mom, as the doctor told her wouldn't, because it was genetics. She was determined with the cholesterol, but she lost too much weight and still had the same cholesterol reading. When my mom hit her 80's she moved to FL to a lovely retirement center. Her new little old lady friends convinced her she couldn't possibly have diabetes because she was sooo tiny and exercised all the time. She listened to them and not her doctor. Obviously a bad move. Developed PAD, horrible sores on her feet, could no longer walk without a cane because of the ravages of unmanaged diabetes for 7 years. She passed at 87 of complications of alzheimer's - which was dx'd 5 months prior to her death.

Long winded, I know. Meds and genetics can very definitely play a part. Just like not all super thin folks are anorexic, not all overweight folks are lazy, undisciplined ne'r do wells.

Of course, if one is able, exercise should be a must. A healthy diet as well. One should NOT go off on any extreme diet and supervised by a medical doctor. Understand your diet restrictions, if any, not just the what's, but the why's and the how.

Anonymous said...

Most of the ladies who wanted to arrange a meet-up are still here. Some may not be posting as much for whatever reason.

As Kate fades from the scene and there is less and less Gosselin talk this blog may go in a different direction. Some will like that, others will be disinterested and move on completely. I agree blogs evolve.

Anonymous said...

Jane,

Are you using white vinegar? You actually can use cider vinegar to get RID of gnats. The Vinegar Institute suggests a mixture of 2 tbsp cider vinegar, 1 tbsp sugar, and a couple drops of dish soap in a quart of water. Setting this mixture around the house will draw the gnats. Wide mouthed jars work great.

Gnats are determined little bugs. Watch any fruits you have out like a hawk. I once had them in my garbage disposal - the gnats, not hawks. Vinegar/baking soda soak/bubble up did the trick. I do a weekly run with vinegar now and haven't had the problem since.

HTH

Anonymous said...

Hi fidosmommy,

Too many people do not understand a chronic condition. Including freakin' Insurance companies :( {{{}}} We do what we do and (try) not to get upset, no?

Anonymous said...

Oopsie - One should NOT go off on any extreme diet and supervised by a medical doctor. Should UNLESS supervised...not and. Oh well.

Thanks for Going Off Topic said...

Jane Doe @154

Were you using white vinegar? That shouldn't atttract bugs, but other vinegars might.

I didn't contribute to that discussion but I clean with vinegar and water, also adding baking soda and/or salt for some jobs.

I use a 50/50 solution for most things, including windows. Cleaning the sink drains I use a cup of baking soda and about a cup of full strength vinegar, followed by flushing the drain with boiling water after about 15 minutes. I use 50/50 vinegar and salt (a mild abrasive) if I need to scrub the sink. I add full strength white vinegar in the softener cup when I do laundry, and so on.

Note: White vinegar is a very mild bleach. You should dilute the mixture if you are spraying things that may not be color-safe like carpets.

I hope this helps.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elisabeth, what about that was "bad manners" or "know it all"???? HUH???

The other poster said I was like Kate and accused me of leaving personal info up willingly, an absolute LIE. What do you want me to say, gee thanks for the compliment and thanks for the lies? They were inflammatory, said to illicit a response. I responded with patience and was polite, explained in fact I did not "leave" personal info up, and I'm not always right but do try to make the best decisions I can. If that is "bad manners" I really don't know what to tell you.

You don't get to lash around insults then belly ache about bad manners. I'm really curious though, what about that was bad manners?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm also curious, why do "life experiences" come up so much? We weren't even talking about life experiences, huh? We were talking about whether a stupid blog should be moderated or unmoderated. It seems to me folks cut from your cloth are awfully obsessed with who has what life experiences, what life experiences are true, how much people have of them. Sounds like jealousy to me. WHO CARES. I don't care about your life experiences and wouldn't expect you to care about mine. This isn't a competition for who can rack up the most or best life experiences.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate is promising to be back. Hopefully this is not just an empty promise to her loyal fans.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Just checking in 2 say goodnight! I'll b back 2 chat&hang here just as soon as I can!The new year is keeping me hopping:)! Hope all r well!
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