Thursday, December 6, 2012

1940's House: Part 2

The pursuit of happiness in hard times 


Many of the great moments of 1940s House involved watching the Hymers experience the hardships of life in the 1940s while still finding a way to create fun and joy during long days of rations, bomb raids and frightening news of war. The Hymers truly took the experience to heart, and the lessons they learned that continued even after the experience were inspiring.

For fun during "wartime," they took a "holiday at home," by going on a picnic nearby and visiting a local cave. Holidays at home were encouraged by the British government, because traveling far was too dangerous, expensive, and would clog the roads the military needed.

After it was over, Ben and Thomas, the children, talked about creating fun without the T.V. or Playstation, such as creating their own board game or building a treehouse. Granny Lynn writes more handwritten letters, and started shopping more locally. She said she had managed to cut her grocery bill in half. Grandpa Michael restored an old car. Kirstie, a single mom whose husband left her, grew much more independent as a result of the experience. Today's hard economic times are not nearly as bad as what Great Britain endured in the 1940s, but the same lessons of creating lemons out of lemonade still apply.

Part 2 is available on Youtube and for purchase on Amazon.

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Lbelle said...

Penny....101:

I haven't caught up on all the comments yet but wanted to say YAY! Great post, Penny! I agree 100%.

Hook 'em Horns said...

I am a teacher, and yes, we are legally bound to report suspected abuse. However, this is all confidential. If the children's teachers reported abuse, we would not know, unless Kate told us. Also, while Kate's behavior towards the children is horrible, it probably doesn't fit into the category which requires visits from child protective services. Sadly. Shoka, on the other hand.........

fidosmommy said...

Parent In Lancaster County said... 200
rowanstaal
@Kateplusmy8 I love your show and kids they are so cute I want to meet you someday! Retweet please and massage me!

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LOL!! Where? Feet? Neck? Back? All over?

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Ha! Maybe that's part of Milo's job - keepin the sheep relaxed n happy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am a teacher, and yes, we are legally bound to report suspected abuse. However, this is all confidential. If the children's teachers reported abuse, we would not know, unless Kate told us.

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Exactly. There is no way to prove whether every single teacher down the line reported abuse or whether no one did. It's silly to assume one or the other happened since we don't know and probably won't unless someone comes forward. Of course this is logic the sheeple never use.

Audible Click said...

Go Because said... 89
Are you this rude to anyone who expresses a viewpoint that differs from yours in real life, or just on the Internet?
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I tend to consider the source and make allowances for people who lack critical thinking skills, your childish double teaming with "Because" earned you the response you received,IMO. I realize you didn't really want an answer to your question but you have one anyway.

Tami said...

Come on posters! Let's not resort to childish name calling. We're better than that. Aren't we?

Anonymous said...

Audible Click 5, don't you know that the phrase "consider the source" belongs to Kate?!! Did you get her permission to use it?? LOL

Working Woman

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Ha! Maybe that's part of Milo's job - keepin the sheep relaxed n happy.

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...with the wool pulled over their eyes. It's the cult thing.

I can't sleep. I knew I shouldn't have eaten beef barbecue and potato salad this late at night!

Ladybug said...

Well, Katie and her sheeple remain ignorant and boring. Good lord, cookies, how not exciting. She doesn't work, so let her open up a bakery and get up at 4 am to get the donuts dough ready and all the other goods freshly baked for the breakfast crowd. Then tweet away, Ms. Crocker Not!
And, regular as clockwork, in scrolls sheeple dragging up ancient history,claiming that we don't bash Jon for errors he made eons ago that we want to have the Pope consider him for Sainthood.
Yawn, doesn't this never get old to them? Broken records the whole lot. Kate, her deluded fame fantasy with the books, shows and teaming up for all sorts of ventures and her leading the lemming heard of sheeple with ther tease, wink, wink, soon, so they all get closer to the cliff. The sooner they fall to the abyss of nobody nothings, where Katie the fertility exploiting scam artist slithered from the better.
Admin, you have the patience of a saint to try and pry open those eyes. I'd just say ignore as they have proven over and over, no matter how many times you show them reality they close their eyes, fingers firmly in ears and deflect away.
I think Donald, was saying good job being totally unlikeable. Next times he needs an Omarosa type villain maybe he'll think of her.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

quiltpeach
@kateplusmy8 Really? U went to Toysrus on a Sat. ..Y not during the week when kids are in school...oh, that's right, 4 the attention.

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Didn't Kate tweet that they went to the toy store so the kids could pick out gifts for Toys For Tots? Was that on Saturday, and did she say if all eight kids made the trip? Did a panic ensue?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If Donald loves her so much why doesn't he offer her a spot on his show? There's been at least three or four celeb Apprentices since he met her. I'd actually like to see that.

PatK said...

Yes, it was on Saturday. She never said if any of the kids were with her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


quiltpeach
@kateplusmy8 Really? U went to Toysrus on a Sat. ..Y not during the week when kids are in school...oh, that's right, 4 the attention.

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This is an example of a hater tweet I'm not sure why we give ANY attention.
What does it matter whether she takes them on Saturday or during the week? Silliness.

JoyinVirginia said...

Aggiemom, Hooray! I don't keep up with football usually, but this is a terrific honor for him! And the great institution of Texas A & M!!!!!!!! (please notice the right exclamation points! And a freshman too! wow. Congrats to him and all his supporters!

All This Is That said...

quiltpeach
@kateplusmy8 Really? U went to Toysrus on a Sat. ..Y not during the week when kids are in school...oh, that's right, 4 the attention.

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What does it matter whether she takes them on Saturday or during the week? Silliness.

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I thought the purpose of them going was so that the kids could select toys for Toys For Tots. If so, then there wouldn't be any reason for her to go during the week when the kids were in school.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I thought the purpose of them going was so that the kids could select toys for Toys For Tots. If so, then there wouldn't be any reason for her to go during the week when the kids were in school.

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Right, exactly. And if they're implying she just did it for attention, I think the locals can attest they truly, no one cares. It wouldn't matter what day they went, no one cares STILL! There's nothing wrong with Kate's tweet other than Kate made it public but can't really blame her for that when everyone has wondering why she's so uncharitable.

Ex Nurse said...

Holidays and birthdays are not "a few times a year".  According to my school district (Seattle) calendar, there are 170 days of instruction, 24 days of holiday and vacation breaks and 7.5 additional days off for  teacher development and parent-teacher conferences. The classrooms can have up to 32 students. That would mean that the average number of birthdays would be 3-4/month. Since, on average, school is only in session for an average of 17 days/month (Sept-Jun), time spent on test prep, testing, holiday prep and parties, special assemblies, pageants and performances would further reduce the time spent on academics. Anyone who thinks that all of this celebrating isn't coming at a cost isn't looking at the facts.

In the course of a normal day, there is a 45 minute lunch/recess and an atonal recess of another 20 minutes.That is the socialization that is built into every single school day. In addition, modern classrooms have collaborative learning and other activities that promote socialization while learning. 

In addition to 1.25 hours of lunch and recess, there Is another 30-40 minutes of transitions,bathroom breaks and getting dressed to go out or home.When all is said and done,academic subjects comprise only 4 hours, or less, per day. If there has been a 3-day or longer holiday (there is at least one in every month), then time must be spent on reviewing to get the kids where they need to be to move on. 

I have fond memories of Halloween and Valentine's Day,too. But my teachers weren't evaluated by test scores as are teachers today. And, schools weren't shut down due to poor test scores, either--but they are now. And, I didn't have hours of homework or wear a backpack that equalled 25% of my body weight because classroom work can no longer be completed during the school day. I was able to have a family dinner and participate  n scouting and other after-school activities

 If classroom work could be completed within the school day, our kids would be much less stressed. And so would their teachers and parents. 

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I must confess I've never heard the argument kids shouldn't take a few moments to eat a cupcake in school and say happy birthday to their classmate because there's just no time for it. I've heard the religious ones.

Four hours of actual academics in school is pretty average for most kids. If you homeschool a kid or teach a kid with a set teacher on set, you don't sit there for eight hours. It amounts to about four and often less. That's what most kids are getting anyway. Poor kids, is this school or a sweat shop?

Greedy Gosselins said...

It's about their future, IMO. In my experience, birthdays were not limited to one cupcake and a 5 min. celebration. It totally derails the class room. As long as the kids are getting their full education, in the grand scheme of things, it may not matter.

The act of suicide, while an incredible tragedy, is also the most selfish act one can do. I realize in the throes of depression and/or panic, one isn't thinking of the impact their action will make.

It's sad that nurse couldn't think beyond hersefl and realize that by killing her herself, she is affecting many others around here. Not only her family but Kate and that unborn child. Life isn't fair sometimes but suicide is such a cowardly act. Overwhelmingly sad though.

Dwindle said...

Well.

I tried for nearly 5 hours to sleep, didnt work, so at 3A I made a pot of coffee and I am calling it Tuesday.

And while I was busy with that, I see you all worked out sleeping arrangments at my house and planned out my menus.

I love this blog.

Dwindle said...

So if y'all dont mind I will just sit here and talk to myself. Go on ahead and continue with your sleeping.

HunnyBunny got up and made eggs. What a thing to do at 3AM. Now back to bed, while I sit here with my Starbucks Italian Roast.

Sigh.

Oh and I LOVE the idea of a baked potato bar! What a wonderful late lunch that would make! I wrote that one down. I have to go back and read all the suggestions again. Probably make a shopping list while I am sitting her TALKING TO MYSELF.

But, like I said: you gals carry on, asleep in your nice cozy beds over there in the middle of the gd night. Dont mind me.

Sleepless Near Cleveland. Nope, doesnt have the same ring to it, does it?

Jennifer said...

Admin said: " It doesn't matter if your ex is an axe murderer, no parent has a right to alienate them from the children. That is a judge's job, he can handle if it that's what he thinks should be done. In this case, a judge has not cut him off. Therefore, Kate has an OBLIGATION to support and encourage her children's positive relationships with their father, period. Nothing less is acceptable. Same with Jon, he has an obligation to support and encourage his children's relationship with Kate. Period. Concerns should be taken to a judge, quietly in PRIVATE. PERIOD."

I'm generally leery of generalizations, but the quote above made me think of this: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/toddler-death-prompts-review-2-other-deaths/

hyperbole I hope said...

Yeah, if my ex was an axe murderer, you'd better believe I'd be alienating and everything else I could think of from their dad. Really??

Vanessa said...

@Greedy Gosselins
What an insensitive & unfair thing to say! It's MENTAL ILLNESS that drives someone to suicide. Their brains are "SICK" Tell the parents of all the victims
of suicide ( prompted by feeling hated, prompted by being bullied, prompted by their ILLNESS) that their children were COWARDS AND SELFISH

aggiemom09121416 said...

Readerlady's ideas made my stomach growl.lol

Dwindle, you have plenty of volunteers here, let us do the cooking and cleaning, and you enjoy the kiddos. Of course we will have to 'snarfle' up all the goodies, so be sure and have pizza on speed dial.
(you do have a Starbucks next door,right?)
For entertainment, we can all sing our favorites from the Sound of Music, watch old memories from r show, clip coupons and tweet.

Sound fun?

JoyinVirginia said...

When are we going to dwindle s house for a sleep over? I missed that somehow, guess because I was SLEEPING. So when are we going? Should we bring anything? Who is in charge of this road trip? Who is bringing the rumspringa? I just got all the ingredients for a pumpkin roll, it is quite festive, I can bring that. And eleventy dozen chocolate chip cookies, will that be enough?

The twit's tweets said...

Wowser said... 122

Hmmmmm...Time put this out today....

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1946375_1946333_1946321,00.html

I guess her plan is for a show without TLC....Kendra slut swap???
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That article was from 2009 and the separate show they're talking about her having the next year did happen, it was 'Kate + 8'.

Anonymous said...

Keep up the good "work". Thinking maybe Donald Trump was being funny. Westbrooke

Dwindle said...

Well, now I am going to have to get out the air mattresses. Everybody bring yer pillow, I dont have enough. But it'll be fun!

HUNNY?!?! Guess who's coming to dinner?!!

Julianna said...

It's about their future, IMO. In my experience, birthdays were not limited to one cupcake and a 5 min. celebration. It totally derails the class room.

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It doesn't derail a classroom if a teacher doesn't allow it that to happen. It all depends on planning and execution. An experienced teacher knows how to do that and at the same time makes certain that it an enjoyable experience for her students.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Joy in VA said
I just got all the ingredients for a pumpkin roll, it is quite festive, I can bring that. And eleventy dozen chocolate chip cookies, will that be enough?
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as long as it's organic! Make more cookies, we can wrap them and set them out for Mr. Garbage Man.
Everyone needs to bring one of their children's special homemade mementos so we can make fun of them and then throw them away!

Julianna said...

Poor kids, is this school or a sweat shop?

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I'm wondering that, too. Perhaps that is why so many students dislike school. There needs to be a careful balancing between social events and academics. If that's done correctly, school becomes a positive experience for both the kids and the teacher.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Two tweets from the twit:

lunches are packed and at school :) dinner is cooking for 8 hours in crock pot as we speak...:)
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I have 3 ovens and a microwave. If I could do it again, I'd have 2ovens and 2microwaves.. Leftover/reheat pm takes forever :)

Dwindle, I think she's jellus of you. She has crock pot envy.

tsk,tsk...only has 1 microwave! Quick, someone call Viking!
And only 3 ovens...the poor thing, how does she manage?

Granny said...

aggiemom: How sad that your Johnny Touchdown has a police record. Guess Heisman winners do not need to be nice guys.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Granny said... 34

aggiemom: How sad that your Johnny Touchdown has a police record. Guess Heisman winners do not need to be nice guys.
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Have a gr8t day!

TLC stinks said...

So Kate cannot go to Best Buy and get another microwave? Sheesh.

Tucker's Mom said...

Granny said... 34
aggiemom: How sad that your Johnny Touchdown has a police record. Guess Heisman winners do not need to be nice guys.
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Shit meet stirrer. Go read about his misdemeanors and what he did to overcome his youthful mistakes and then tell us he doesn't deserve what his hard work and TALENT EARNED him.
How many speeding tickets did Kate receive whist speeding along in her 3000 lb. vehicle? How many thousands of dollars has Kate grifted by fleecing duped audiences? How many freebies has Kate garnered over the years, posing as a struggling mom? And, whatever happened to "this is just the beginning of Gosselins giving back?"

Mel said...

What's with the stupid names Kate comes up with?

Katie Crocker?
Can-Do Kate
Von Gosselin Family Singers

There have been a few others, all equally terrible.
No sense of rhythm or balance to the word combinations.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yeah, if my ex was an axe murderer, you'd better believe I'd be alienating and everything else I could think of from their dad. Really??

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Really.

See the case of Diane Downs. The adoptive parents of her youngest child never once breathed a bad word about her mother. They didn't say nice things about Diane and they PROTECTED their child, especially when Diane escaped from prison for a few weeks, but they didn't trash her in front of her. This is what I'm talking about. All speaking ill of Diane would have done is made that child even MORE confused about her past. She had a hard enough time. In fact they didn't even tell her about Diane, she found out. What good does it do to trash the other parent in front of your child but make them feel like their half is a bad person? That's what this is about.

By all means, do what you have to do to protect your child. But, in front of the judge, not in front of your kids.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Tucker's Mom...

thank you.
:)

How's the doggie?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Oh and I LOVE the idea of a baked potato bar! What a wonderful late lunch that would make! I wrote that one down. I have to go back and read all the suggestions again. Probably make a shopping list while I am sitting her TALKING TO MYSELF.

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This is what we're doing for our xmas party this year! LOL! I think it's fun and creative, but it has become the butt of the joke. The economy is so tough all they can feed us this year is potatoes? What is this the Irish famine?? LOL.

I love when you talk to yourself BTW.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

During the Irish Potato Faminie there were NO potatoes. They were destroyed by disease.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yeah I know but still funny somehow.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well this made me feel better about mankind.

Charlie Sheen quietly wrote a check for 75,000 to a man whose little girl has cancer. No press conference, no fuss. The reason people found out is because the man posted a pic of the check.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/10/charlie-sheen-eddie-braun-checks-donate-75k-cancer-victim/

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Did you all miss this ridiculous tweet that included Trumps name from Milo last night and Kate's reply?

@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump LOL...I sure hope he sees that tweet! Maybe he'll take U shoppin 4new shoes! :)

@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump lol not what I meant... Just meant that is where we initially met:)
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How embarrassing.

OrangeCoaster1 said...

Maybe we should have a new post about holiday cooking and baking - call it The Adventures of Katie Crocker. With simple lessons for the sheeple on how to slice bread, unwrap Hershey kisses for peanut butter blossoms, etc.

So if her dinner is in the crockpot, and her lunches packed and at school (?!), WTF does she do all damn day long except twatter away? Rhetorical question, I know.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


So if her dinner is in the crockpot, and her lunches packed and at school (?!), WTF does she do all damn day long except twatter away? Rhetorical question, I know.

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I know!! Watch tivo I assume. Maybe Trump's tweet WAS sarcastic. He's been known to mess around.

Anonymous said...

Admin, didn't a poster last night say that they don't agree with the stuff Kate says about Jon but they don't feel it's meant as parental alienation on her part?

The thing with that is, HOW MANY of her put-downs and digs on Jon directly relate to the kids and/or his relationship with them? Most of them. She indicated on Regis and Kelly that they don't enjoy being with him; she recently made sure to point out that he never takes them shopping for presents; she had to let it be known that she has the kids on Xmas eve and Xmas this year; whenever she talks about their current relationship, she always says that it's really peaceful now that "he's trying harder" and that it's "nothing she's doing differently" and that she has "always wanted peace for her kids." Uh Kate, they looked pretty okay with him when they were screaming for him in the car when he was dropping them off -- in fact, it was you they didn't seem at peace with.

In fact, during the Dr Drew interview, didn't he outright ask her if he is currently being a good father and she actually says "he's trying to be." WTF. So he got himself a suitable home for his kids, involves his girlfriend in their lives, works hard to keep details of his kids lives private, speaks only highly of Kate in the rare instance he does speak of her at all... And yet he is only TRYING to be a good father. What a dispicable human being.

How anybody can hesitate to acknowledge this as parental alienation at its cruelest is beyond me. Admin, you probably see awful cases of this pretty often, the worst of the worst, and you are still impacted by Kate's behavior. That says something.

Working Woman

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She said Jon is "trying" to be a good dad. Vile, awful comment. I don't care if that's how she really feels, tell it to your judge and therapist, not the audience of Dr. Drew!

Working Woman there are certainly cases worse than this, usually involving moms planting it in a child's head that dad is molesting them, which takes it to a whole other disturbing level, but this is probably easily in the top five.

Anonymous said...

Admin, I am only in my early twenties and have no experience in family law or even being around single mothers with their children, but I have to imagine that your analysis is correct. Top 5, easy. At least, for the sake of children everywhere, I hope so.

This truly breaks my heart. Can you freaking IMAGINE the hell Jon would endure if he suggested that Kate is "trying" to be a good mother? He'd probably have to go into protective custody.

Well, I'll take the heat for it then: Sheep, if Jon did say that, it would be generous of him. Kate "tries" to be a good mother about as hard as I try to form another kidney stone. Unless running off to NY or LV every possible chance, shoving (not just throwing) their beloved father under the bus, exposing complete strangers to their personal lives, showing exactly zero respect for their privacy, putting words into their mouths ("They miss filming! It's all they talk about! They want a new daddy!"), isolating them from family members who they loved such as Kevin and Jodi, making them feel like accidentally peeling a globe is federal offense to the point where they are afraid to confess, claiming to not have enough money to enroll them in gymnastics or take them to the movies while treating herself like royalty, etc, qualifies as Kate "trying" to be a good mother.

Oops wait I forgot, that shit is all "for the kids." Ignore my silly sediments.

Working Woman

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That's the whole irony is she isn't even trying to be a good mom herself. She so overcompensates. I firmly believe she KNOWS exactly what her motivations are. She is trying to 1. make money and 2. be famous and 3. continue to exploit the kids. That is all.

She keeps up the facade of mothering on Twitter, that's all.

She is just like Angela from Catfish.

Tucker's Mom said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 40
Tucker's Mom...

thank you.
:)

How's the doggie?
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Mr. Bichone is doing better, thank you! It's been a rough couple months, with losing teeth, painful spasms (vs. seizure?), scratched cornea.
He's finally starting to be his old self (very old!), has a good appetite, pretty good energy for an old guy and seems to be enjoying life.
Only one or two more follow ups with the opthamologist and then we're just back to our normal vet visits. Whew.

Audible Click said...

Anonymous said... 7
Audible Click 5, don't you know that the phrase "consider the source" belongs to Kate?!! Did you get her permission to use it?? LOL
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I bought it from her for a package of Quilted Northern and instructions on how to do The Donald's color and comb over. I think she has some concerns about her rapidly receding hairline.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

LONDON — A radio station is to pay at least $525,000 to a memorial fund in the name of a nurse found dead after two DJs duped her into putting them through to Duchess Kate’s hospital ward where she was being treated for an extreme form of morning sickness.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/11/15841365-royal-prank-radio-station-to-pay-525000-to-family-of-dead-nurse

Dutch Tulip said...

Vanessa said... 24
I totally agree with you! A person most be so desperate to do this, my heart breaks thinking of her last thoughts and feelings, she must have been so alone and afraid. Suicide is such a lonely way to go. Have some mercy and don't shame her or her family!

Improbable Dreams said...

Murt's Child Labor Law Comes of Age

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_intelligencer_news/murt-s-child-labor-bill-comes-of-age/article_a65c984b-b566-5758-90e1-abe66ab678e1.html#.UMdiaqVMMTw.twitter

Anonymous said...

Tweet Le dee, wow. This is heartbreaking for everyone involved. Those DJs are obviously experiencing a tremendous amount of guilt, and while it was a risky inconsiderate prank, they certainly couldn't have foreseen this tragedy. Thoughts and prayers for everybody as they move forward.

Admin, I have a question for you that's slightly off topic. I love this blog and feel that it is a warm, welcoming community where we can vent and also talk about pretty much anything. I was curious to know, though, about your emotional experience when you first started up this blog.

By that I mean, when it was a blog that was basically 100% devoted to issues surrounding Kate, did you experience any guilt or hesitation about posting your feelings so openly on the Internet, and setting up a space where people could potentially insult a mother of 8?

Please note, I am a huge supporter of this blog, read it all the time. And for the most part, I agree with just about everything that is said. I was just wondering about what you experienced internally, mostly at the beginning but even still today. We're you ever worried that it might hurt Kate's feelings or the kids might hear about it or anything like that? I visit several snarky blogs that deal with a wide range of people and issues, and I always wonder what the creator goes through.

I admire the work you put toward this and I feel like Kate chooses to put herself out there so should be able to deal with the freedom of speech issue. I was just wondering what feelings you have experienced, as the writer of the recaps and founder of the blog.

Of course, only answer if you are comfortable doing so.

Working Woman

Improbable Dreams said...

Oops, sorry...I hit "publish" too soon. I was going to ask if anyone can confirm when it is that this law will be fully executed/implemented.

Tucker's Mom said...

Improbable Dreams said... 56
Murt's Child Labor Law Comes of Age

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_intelligencer_news/murt-s-child-labor-bill-comes-of-age/article_a65c984b-b566-5758-90e1-abe66ab678e1.html#.UMdiaqVMMTw.twitter
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Can someone make this clickable. Everyone should read it. It does NOT impugn the Gosselins, rather, it simply highlights the provisions the law will provide in protecting children in TV, with children in reality tv given the same protection as child actors on a set.
Congratulations to everyone who called, e mailed and in any way encouraged Rep. Murt to pursue this matter. I understand he was always responsive to any contacts and inquiries, so thank you Rep. Murt and Paul Peterson and Jodi and Kevin et. al.
God only knows the wrath of Kate that the Kreiders had to endure when they bravely made themselves advocates for their nieces and nephews.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Thanks Improbable, for the link.
I'd hate to know *I* was the reason my home state made a law due to my exploiting my kids.
Kate, you ought to hang your fried head in shame.

(lol, when typing 'fried',I typed 'fired' instead.) both work!
:)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Murt's child labor bill comes of age

Improbable Dreams said...

Thanks for the clickable link, Tweet-le De!

The article's even-handed, which is all for the good. It's from late October, though, and the bill's been signed since then. My question is this: Does anyone know when the law takes effect?

Improbable Dreams said...

ADMIN~ If it turns out Kate & Deanna's filming escapade was timed to skirt Murt's law--legislation inspired by her greediness & child exploitation--I think it'd have to rank near or at the top of your year-end list.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't think that Kate would in any way, shape or form deign to comply with the rules set forth in this law. She'd never allow a set teacher to dictate anything. Turn the boat around because the kids are puking? Peeshah!
I just think that any chance of Kate resuming filming the kids in PA/at home, "Kate plus 8" kind of thing is DONE.
I'll bet TLC won't touch a special after this law.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Improbable Dreams (62),

It doesn't look like there have been any updates on Murt's website regarding the bill since October 16. Maybe someone in the area can call the office and ask:

State Representative Thomas Murt
152nd District, Pennsylvania House of Representatives
Contact:
Rep. Murt’s Office
215-744-2600

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Working Woman interesting question. Yes I do worry and have wondered all the time how what is said all over the Internet affects this family, for sure. I think at the end of the day though it was more important there be a safe gathering place for those with concerns. Rep Murts bill is evidence of that. When this blog first started though there were only one or two comments! Then a big Gosselin blog linked to us and the rest is history. I found out later people like Ashley, Em Tanner, US Weekly staff, Jodi and Jon had all stopped by here.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Guys, the governor signed the bill into law way back in October. There are no updates, it's the law now.

That's a good article but I'm not sure why it's saying the bill hasn't been signed yet! It was, ages ago.

Anonymous said...

Admin, thank you for answering. It really is amazing what a long way it's come in just a few years, not only this blog but public awareness on child exploitation.

It's very encouraging. Of course, some newer TLC shows like Dance Moms are a huge step backward!

Working Woman

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 45
Did you all miss this ridiculous tweet that included Trumps name from Milo last night and Kate's reply?

@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump LOL...I sure hope he sees that tweet! Maybe he'll take U shoppin 4new shoes! :)

@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump lol not what I meant... Just meant that is where we initially met:)
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How embarrassing.

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Not to mention, blindingly dopey.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Btw act takes effect 90 days after the governors signature. So about January 24th. TLC better put together a Christmas special and fast if they want to slide in before that.

Improbable Dreams said...



There's a period of time between a bill's being signed into law and it actually taking effect. That's where my own question resides, with regards to Murt's (signed) bill

!How funny: The governor's office said they didn't know when the law took effect. They referred me to Murt's office, who didn't know anything either.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

ID what??? Lol! Everything I've read says add 90 days to the governors signature. Unless the law has a provision in it specifying when it takes effect, which I don't see in this one.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 70
Btw act takes effect 90 days after the governors signature. So about January 24th. TLC better put together a Christmas special and fast if they want to slide in before that.
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Hmmm..... the reason behind Kate getting the narrative out there that the kids are insisting on being home at Christmas and the days surrounding it?
Not trying to start a conspiracy theory, but the window is closing.....

FYI said...

Milo's now got Donald Trump on the brain. Iwana tweeted that he was going to Vegas--so what does Milo tweet?

miloandjack
@IwanaInspireU @realDonaldTrump @Kateplusmy8 So Vegas bound & maybe stay at the Trump Tower? Say "hello" 2the Donald! :) #HopeKimIsWell!

Iwana didn't include anyone in his tweet, but of course, Milo has to add Donald Trump and Kate.

She's going to be obsessing over DT, just like she obsesses over "Grow a Boyfriend".

Improbable Dreams said...

Admin ~ I know, right?!? LOL.

Murt's office got back to me eventually...very nice people! The bill was signed into law on October 24th and takes effect 90 days from that date, just like you said. :)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 74
Milo's now got Donald Trump on the brain. Iwana tweeted that he was going to Vegas--so what does Milo tweet?

miloandjack
@IwanaInspireU @realDonaldTrump @Kateplusmy8 So Vegas bound & maybe stay at the Trump Tower? Say "hello" 2the Donald! :) #HopeKimIsWell!

Iwana didn't include anyone in his tweet, but of course, Milo has to add Donald Trump and Kate.

She's going to be obsessing over DT, just like she obsesses over "Grow a Boyfriend".
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Hmmmm. She didn't include her bestie Deanna? Milo should be trying to hook them both up with Donald! She's falling down on the job.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Tucker's Mom said... 52

aggiemom09121416 said... 40
Tucker's Mom...

thank you.
:)

How's the doggie?
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Mr. Bichone is doing better, thank you! It's been a rough couple months, with losing teeth, painful spasms (vs. seizure?), scratched cornea.
He's finally starting to be his old self (very old!), has a good appetite, pretty good energy for an old guy and seems to be enjoying life.
Only one or two more follow ups with the opthamologist and then we're just back to our normal vet visits. Whew.

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Pardon my nosiness-

Tucker, I'm so glad Mr. Bichone is doing better.
You must feel so helpless when he gets spasms.
I hope 2013 will be a much better year for him (and you).

Yesterday, my 4 year old Beagle/Jack Russell had what appeared to be an epileptic seizure.
I stayed with him, and comforted him until it was over- but it was scary watching him go through it.

I absolutely feel sympathy for you & Mr. Bichon.

Anyway, I made a midday appointment with our veterinarian tomorrow.




Anonymous said...

Pink, I'm so sorry to hear your dog went through that! That must have been so frightening, poor thing. Sending you and your beloved pup my warmest thoughts and prayers.

Tucker, I am so glad to hear about Mr. Bichone! Sending you my best wishes as well :)

Working Woman

PJ's momma said...

Pink, voice of experience here, the best thing you can do is keep calm and carry on in that situation with your dog. They do come around in a short while. Sometimes that happens only once in a dog's life, I pray that's the case for you. But even if not, epilepsy is a (mostly) controllable disease. Good luck with the vet tomorrow. And I can offer advice if you ever need it.

NJGal51 said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 45
Did you all miss this ridiculous tweet that included Trumps name from Milo last night and Kate's reply?

@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump LOL...I sure hope he sees that tweet! Maybe he'll take U shoppin 4new shoes! :)

@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @hatersmotivate3 @realDonaldTrump lol not what I meant... Just meant that is where we initially met:)
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I think Kate's trying to tap dance out of this one. She wants the sheeple to think she's friends with The Donald but she doesn't want him included in the tweets because she knows that they're not friends. She just wants to appear important in front of her sheeple but doesn't want him to call her out on it.

Tucker's Mom said...

Thanks for the well wishes for Mr. Bichon. He was seen by a Vet as a nearby hospital within 20-30 minutes of each of the 2 events. Pain/spasm/pinched nerve in neck is suspected, because he seemed coherent/with it in that short period of time. But, we can't be sure.
He's on Tramadol now and fingers crossed, he's doing well.
Oh, and he just pooped on the laundry room floor* and walked in it (lovely!) and I put him in our utility sink to rinse his feet and cleaned him up. I did not pick him up by the curly hair on his head and fling him anywhere because it wasn't a pleasant task!
He nearly walked in it again before I got a chance to clean it up!
*I had my dogs in the laundry room while someone came to our house, and I think he got nervous. Poor little guy.

Now on a far more pleasant subject (especially smell-wise), I made Kelsey Nixon's Carmelitas. These are the bomb.
http://www.cookingchanneltv.com/recipes/kelsey-nixon/carmelitas-recipe/index.html

I make them with cashews and people ask for them again. Of course, since I tweak the recipe a bit, I call them "Tucker's Mom's Carmelitas".
Nah, I don't ;-)

Millicent said...

Ex-nurse made an excellent post on the reality of the school system today in the U.S. Whatever we did when were were kids doesn't apply anymore and those days aren't coming back. I remember kindergarten as an introduction to the school system, where I learned how to spell my name, color between the lines, and line up in order. By the time my son reached kindergarten age, much much more was expected of both teacher and students. It was not much fun, and in fact probably the worst year of his school life, and that's including middle school years.

Don't beat up on teachers because they won't allow interruptions for birthday celebrations. That's probably not their decision but one imposed by the school district. Teachers and schools are under tremendous, constant pressure to reach often unrealistic goals, or face financial penalties. If you want to change how schools are run these days, then you need to get politically involved, read up and learn how onerous and (in my opinion) ridiculous No Child Left Behind is, and work toward implementing decent budgeting for the public school system.

In most cases, teachers are doing their best with a very difficult situation. My sister is a teacher and has been for nearly 30 years. You would probably be quite shocked to learn how much of her own money is spent on supplying her classroom, how much is expected of her and yet how little support she is provided by the school district to accomplish the goals set. Please don't bash her for now allowing a birthday celebration in the classroom until you walk a mile in her shoes.

Tucker's Mom said...

Don't beat up on teachers because they won't allow interruptions for birthday celebrations
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I'm not sure if you've read the whole thread, but someone posted that their daughter's bday is 9/11 and she ALONE is not allowed to bring treats in on her birthday, while other kids can on their bday, and that's total shit.
No one has been "bashing" teachers. Not in the least. I think you'll find that we've just been advocating for incorporating social structure/time into the school day, along with academics, of course.

NJGal51 said...

Our first bulldog developed epilepsy when he was about 3 years old. His first seizure was very scarey to us. We were stationed in Germany when Chernobyl blew and there were trace amounts of radioactivity in the grass. We were told that everything was safe but we were also told to make sure that the kids washed well when they came in from playing and to leave their shoes outside the door. We were also cautioned to only drink the shelf milk for a while. I will swear to my dying day that this is what caused his epilepsy. He did live to be 10 years old and the epilepsy was controlled by medication. He would still have the occasional seizure but they were few and far between.

Tucker's Mom said...

We were stationed in Germany when Chernobyl blew and there were trace amounts of radioactivity in the grass. We were told that everything was safe but we were also told to make sure that the kids washed well when they came in from playing and to leave their shoes outside the door
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Good grief, how frightening! I think that place still glows at night....

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

NJGal51 said... 80

I think Kate's trying to tap dance out of this one. She wants the sheeple to think she's friends with The Donald but she doesn't want him included in the tweets because she knows that they're not friends. She just wants to appear important in front of her sheeple but doesn't want him to call her out on it.
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I agree. If she has even 1/2 a brain (which is debatable) she should be and should tell Milo to knock it off, especially that ridiculous tweet to Iwana that included Trump's name. I can just see Trump's face..."Who the *#&% are MiloandJack and Iwanainspireu?"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No one was blaming teachers. I'm young enough that schools were becoming all about testing when I was going through it. We still managed to pause to celebrate once in awhile.

fidosmommy said...

These birthday and holiday parties are to the kids what a coffee break is to the teacher. A break from the daily grind, a chance to get their minds off school work for a few minutes, eat a doughnut or candy bar for energy and shake out their shoulders. I'm all for it as long as it doesn't become the main agenda of the hour.

fidosmommy said...

I got curious and called the grade school office. We have one grade school in this county. I asked about snacks and parties. I was told that SNACK TIME IS PART OF THE CLASS AGENDA EVERY DAY. Most days the kids bring something for themselves, but sometimes a birthday person or the teacher provides a special treat. Every day they take time out from their day and grab a snack. So, in this school district that break time has been recognized as a good thing.

She also reminded me that a few years ago the state provided snacks for all the kids. A refrigerated cart went down the halls with all kinds of fruit and vegetable samples, some that the kids had never heard of before. They were encouraged to try a small piece of something new and find something nice to say about it. Funny how raw vegetables and different fruit were a big hit with elementary school children.
They were sorry when the program went away.

Shocked said...

I haven't had a chance to read all the posts so please forgive me if I am repeating something that a teacher has already mentioned.

I am more than happy to celebrate my students' birthdays with them! It is such a special day for them. I always let my students have birthday treats at recess time. That way I get in my instruction time and the students get to celebrate. It's a win-win situation. I have taught for 22 years and so far I've had no complaints! There are always ways to fit these little celebrations in. After all, it doesn't take that long to eat a cupcake and wish someone a happy birthday:)

Blowing In The Wind said...

I think Kate's trying to tap dance out of this one. She wants the sheeple to think she's friends with The Donald but she doesn't want him included in the tweets because she knows that they're not friends. She just wants to appear important in front of her sheeple but doesn't want him to call her out on it.

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She needs to send one of those infamous DMs to Milo and tell her to knock it off. Lay down the law here that Milo is not Kate's guardian angel, her personal go-to-person and whatever else Milo thinks that she is. Milo's trying to "get in" with the celebrities that Kate knows, and she's going to end up causing nothing but an embarrassment. She's worked her way into Deanna's life, wondering where she is, what she's doing, etc., and now she'll move on to The Donald and anyone else who she thinks can be of any benefit to Kate.

Milo is one scary sheeple. I'd end that "relationship" so fast her head would spin, and then I'd hide the bunny.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

British press is reporting the nurse left a suicide note. I don't think there's any doubt what happened now.

There is an interview online with the DJs. They are genuinely torn up, practically sobbing through it and holding hands.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There is a tweet from last week where Kate says she lets them wrap gifts to her. "Let" them wrap??? Good lord talk about a control freak. I would think a kid has the right to wrap his gift to his mother. She needs to butt out.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Mr. Bichone is doing better, thank you! It's been a rough couple months, with losing teeth, painful spasms (vs. seizure?), scratched cornea.
He's finally starting to be his old self (very old!), has a good appetite,

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Aw...that's good to hear. We had a tiny teacup poodle who had her first attack when she was less than a year old. Thunderstorms seemed to trigger them, but they'd also occur randomly. All she wanted to do was lie on her back with me holding her while she thrashed around. The seizures got progressively worse, and she was put on one Dilantin a day. It seemed to work for her with no side effects. Getting the dosage right took some time, but she never had another seizure and she lived to be 17 years old with no other health issues.

Dmasy said...

I made deviled eggs today and thought of all you ladies and your special recipes.

Kiwi -- where are you, dear?

Tucker's Mom said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 94
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That is so encouraging to hear. My old guy has taken to shaking/shivering when scared. Never really happened before unless he was freaked out at the vet.
I just distract him with little walks outside and he usually calms down.
Thanks!
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It seems clear now that the nurse did take her own life and the word "shame" has been mentioned, so I think we were on the right track.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker out skills of speculation are finely honed, this is just such a sad situation to use them on.

Apparently her brother gave an interview saying she was proper and righteous, died of shame, and would have been devastated to know she had violated medical confidentiality.

Eerily everything said here.

Blowing In The Wind said...

The original prank call (in its entirety, with the nurse discussing Kate's condition), as well as the interview, is available online. The DJs repeatedly say that prank calls have been done every day by every radio station. Thedailybeast.com has the full text online, as well as a story about the history of crude behavior by the radio station, and at the time of the suicide, the station was serving two five-year license probations over stunts that violated Australia’s broadcast code, going back to 2009 when two DJs got a 14-year-old to admit that she had been raped, and then asked her about other sexual experiences.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What I don't understand is the decision to air the call after realizing they had gotten through and obtained private info. That's on the station. It wasn't a live call. Common sense and decency would have stopped them from airing it. I was never interested in shock jocks. I prefer my AM 640. It's funny but never in a way that could hurt others.

Blowing In The Wind said...

What I don't understand is the decision to air the call after realizing they had gotten through and obtained private info. That's on the station. It wasn't a live call. Common sense and decency would have stopped them from airing it. I was never interested in shock jocks. I prefer my AM 640. It's funny but never in a way that could hurt others.

Ratings and listeners. I've been reading about the station and apparently it has no ethics. It's interesting that while the male DJ admits that it was his idea, that the buck doesn't stop with him. They pass it on to the next in charge, and then they decide what to do with it. Apparently this one was too good to let go, and they aired it. I just wonder how the "suits" who decided to air it feel about this one. They aren't giving interviews.

silimom said...

Admin 99 - I agree, it was the station's decision to air the call. I read an interview with either one of the DJ's or the CEO that they had run the pre-recorded call past their legal department first and it was okayed for air. So I think it is safe to say that they understood that the recording was questionable at best.

Sadly yes, prank phone calls are a part of radio history. I've heard some doozies in my time.

I do honestly believe the DJs involved thought they'd never make it through the receptionist. I also think that it is difficult for us to understand many factors in this case. First, outside of Britain I don't think the rest of the world holds the Royal Family in reverence. I think they are seen by most people as celebrities, much like Brad and Angelina etc. Again, that doesn't mean they don't deserve privacy, but I don't think most people would have reacted the same had it been some radio station calling in about Angelina's health during a pregnancy complication.

Second, Mrs. Saldanha was not only a British citizen and, according to her family, a very moral and ethical person she was also from a different culture that takes class, station and honor very seriously. I don't think that's the culture of the United States or Australia, which are very egalitarian in their societal perspective.

This is a tragedy. I am glad the radio station contributed to her memorial fund although I don't think $500,000 is near enough. I hope that the good that can come out of this is that we, as a culture, will start thinking twice about pranking people and to realize the effect it has on people.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I had the same thought, they thought this was just too big not to air. It wasn't foreseen how it could really hurt Kate, the hospital and the nurse. Did they even consider the nurse could lose her job? A death is awful but so is causing someone to lose their job. Had that happened they should have felt awful too. So many scenarios just not considered at all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes I think that's exactly it. I've met many Australians and their mentality is as close to Americans as I've ever found next to maybe Canadians. This is not meant as an insult. But to many of us Kate is just another celeb and that nurse is just another employee. But to that nurse, it was her sacred duty to serve the royal family and there was no choice but to literally slay herself if she ever violated it. It just didn't cross their minds how seriously many people take William and his unborn child. Another example, you didn't see revolving nannies with William. They had two or three tops and each would stay for years. The sense of duty and solemness was us beyond our normal comprehension.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Apparently her brother gave an interview saying she was proper and righteous, died of shame, and would have been devastated to know she had violated medical confidentiality.

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If you listen to that prank call, the person who put it through was only on there briefly. She didn't give out the information. It's really sad that just those few words she said to the DJs would cause a tragedy like this. In fact, the nurse who did disclose the medical condition really didn't say anything all that revealing, other than Kate had been dehydrated, was resting and gave the time for the queen to come and visit, and said something about Will's presence. Of course it's an invasion of privacy, but what was said could have been so much worse.

The prank call didn't sound authentic at all. They were laughing, making jokes, with the queen asking Charles if he could take her to the hospital. How could this nurse (who gave out the info) not know that this was a prank call? It was obvious.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin said...
Four hours of actual academics in school is pretty average for most kids. If you homeschool a kid or teach a kid with a set teacher on set, you don't sit there for eight hours. It amounts to about four and often less. That's what most kids are getting anyway. Poor kids, is this school or a sweat shop?
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There is absolutely no comparison between homeschooling and a classroom of 32 students. Homeschooled kids require much less time in dedicated academics because the content is customized to them in every subject. A typical classroom is made up of all kinds of abilities and learning styles. At any given time, a good teacher is lucky if she is reaching 50% of the kids--25% will be ahead and 25% are behind. Not to mention first year ESL students and mixed grade classrooms. It is a relatively low percentage of kids that are engaged in every subject throughout the day.

As usual, my comments are being interpreted in the most extreme way, and therefore have no merit. And, of course, there is somehow no loss in academics or recognition for the ample socialization that is routinely included in lesson plans in modern classrooms. Today's kids are not stuck at a desk for the entire day. They are moving about the room, learning interactively and participating in group projects--hardly a "sweat shop". There are many options for recognizing holidays and birthdays in creative ways, rather than having yet another party that includes candy, cookies and cake--For example, a special show-and-tell session or a special classroom job.

It isn't the few minutes to sing happy birthday--it is a break in the routine and the ingesting of a large amount of sugar. It is difficult to transition a class from a party, back to academics. When a 60 lb child eats a couple of cookies or a cupcake, it is like an adult eating 2-3x the amount. So yes--it is a problem for many children which then becomes an additional classroom management challenge for even the best teachers.

Please note that I am talking about public schools, that typically have 27+ students, even in K-3. Private schools and home schools do not have the large classrooms or many of the other challenges that public schools have and are not required to meet many of the requirements (ex special Ed) that the state requires of public schools. Proficiency in academic subjects is the number one priority of public schools, and is increasingly becoming the only tool for evaluating the effectiveness of teachers and schools. Anyone that disagrees with this should be actively working to change legislation in their state to change the criteria for measuring success. And, should be actively lobbying their lawmakers to stop placing additional burdens and requirements on schools without the additional funding to make achievement possible. Then, maybe, there will be time for more parties and celebrations. Until then, it makes no sense to make learning even harder by constantly disrupting lesson plans and learning objectives.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Blowing it wasn't the words. It was the action. She put it through. Putting it through was the event that started everything. She probably thought had she realized none of this would have happened, which is probably true. Had she put her on hold and gotten a supervisor who vetted it, it would have been just another prank. Oh and just me but I don't want anyone to know I haven't had any vomiting today, let alone millions worldwide. That is a deplorable violation of a pregnant woman and her baby's privacy.

In the heat of the moment one might not realize a prank is happening. It wasn't just another phone call she thought it was the queen. People fall for pranks all the time, even bad ones. People just do. I can't explain it but they so. I guess we are a gullible trusting society.

Regardless it doesn't matter how much some people can't see this as that big of a deal. It was a big deal to the nurse.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think a show and tell is a great idea for a birthday but then isn't that taking time away from academics too? What's the difference.

Also we had many parties that included healthy food items.

A quick break and nourishment can be just enough to recharge a kid so that learning is easier not harder. I think everyone wants kids to learn its just a difference of opinion what's the best way. I think breaks help learning, not hurt it. I myself work much better with something in my stomach and a few recharging moments.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why it's so hard for some of you people to understand how they fell for this prank call. She obviously did. Are you suggesting she faked falling for it? That doesn't make sense. Accept it! She fell for it! Geez.

Anonymous said...

I think all opinions including yours have merit ex nurse. We just think yours are extreme and bizarre this time and you're not going to get anyone agreeing with you sorry. No fun ever for kids how sad. What a world!

Team 8 said...

I appreciate your opinion Ex Nurse. Stay opinionated! Good for you! ♥

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anyone remember hearing about Orson Wells' reading of War of the Worlds? My grandfather told me about it and he said his father told them to run to the lake. My grandfather said what good will that do if the world is ending? They were terrified, petrified, traumatized. It was awful. My grandfather was 14 and scared to death. Pranks aren't always fun and that one wasn't intended either.

Anonymous said...

Yeah you go ExNurse if there's one thing we need it is surely more opinions about stripping children of everything that makes childhood what it is. Rock on.

Team 8 said...

Admin, why are you allowing posts that break rule #3?

fidosmommy said...

Does one put the Queen "on hold" while going somewhere to find a supervisor? I think that would be considered bad form.

Of course, as I said a few pages ago, the Queen probably doesn't dial her own phone, either. Even private calls I would assume.

But if she does dial her own calls, my bet is that William had his cell phone with him and the Queen would have called him directly on that. You know, a totally private call.

If I were to answer my business phone and a voice said "This is the Dalai Lama calling", I would be in near shock. His brother lives not too far from here so it would not be outside the realm of possiblities that he could call my business number about something.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Probably why she didn't put her on hold to vet, she was afraid the queen would say I can't believe I was put on hold I'm the queen! I get it.

Anonymous said...

Ex-Nurse,
I happen to mostly agree with your opinion. I also think, too, though, that a break for birthdays is fine- but at the end of the day. That's when I had them as a child in school. Last 20 min of the day.
I also have the opinion that kids aren't in school nearly long enough during the school day- go ahead, vilify me :) I also liked being 'chained to my desk' all day, but that is my learning style. This new style of interactive learning, getting up and socializing, would have mortified me and I would not have done as well. Again, each person's learning style is different. But yeah, kids would do much better academically if they were in class longer. Other countries do it and they are ahead of us. My native language teachers think we coddle kids in school- I tend to agree, only my opinion!! Don't hate me :)

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Anonymous said... 78

Pink, I'm so sorry to hear your dog went through that! That must have been so frightening, poor thing. Sending you and your beloved pup my warmest thoughts and prayers.

Tucker, I am so glad to hear about Mr. Bichone! Sending you my best wishes as well :)

Working Woman

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Thank you, Working Woman.
You are a dear, and kind soul.

With love,
Pink

Tucker's Mom said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 98
The original prank call (in its entirety, with the nurse discussing Kate's condition), as well as the interview, is available online. The DJs repeatedly say that prank calls have been done every day by every radio station.
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You know what this reminds me of? You ever see people in other countries celebrating by firing guns/automatic weapons in the air? Yeah, at some point, one of those damn bullets are going to come down and kill somebody.
They were just playing the odds. At some point, they were going to be shit out of luck.
I just don't know why so many tv panel discussions treat pranks like "eh, people do it every day!".

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

PJ's momma said... 79

Pink, voice of experience here, the best thing you can do is keep calm and carry on in that situation with your dog. They do come around in a short while. Sometimes that happens only once in a dog's life, I pray that's the case for you. But even if not, epilepsy is a (mostly) controllable disease. Good luck with the vet tomorrow. And I can offer advice if you ever need it.

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Thank you for your comforting words, PJ's momma.

I really appreciate it- and I will definitely come to you for your doggie expertise :o)

Thanks again-

Love,
Pink

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What about sports, after school clubs, homework and family time? Poor kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker I agree! Same with Ryan's roses. How can you think this stuff will never implode?

Over In Kate's County said...

I just don't know why so many tv panel discussions treat pranks like "eh, people do it every day!".

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...and how many times do we tell our kids that just because other people do it all the time doesn't make it right? Obviously those words were never told to the station/DJs, or they just chose to ignore them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anyone watch Punked? Most of them were harmless. Some pranks could have ended badly. They were all very tightly controlled by Ashton and crew.

Over In Kate's County said...

What about sports, after school clubs, homework and family time? Poor kids.

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I guess if the purpose of a school system is to churn out academic robots for the purpose of "being ahead of other countries," then that's what you do...socialization, after-school activities, family time be damned.
Let kids be kids. There will be enough time in their adult time for longer hours and being chained to a desk. Childhood is so short.

Midnight Madness said...

"But if she does dial her own calls, my bet is that William had his cell phone with him and the Queen would have called him directly on that. You know, a totally private call."

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I have to think of the scene in "An American President," where Andrew Shepherd calls Sydney Ellen Wade, says it is the President, she thinks it's a joke and keeps hanging up on him. He tells her to call the White House. She does, and it turns out that he's waiting for her return call.

Before any information was released, perhaps the person at the hospital should have asked for the Queen's phone number, or Charles' number and said that she would call them back. That would have ended that prank.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I guess if the purpose of a school system is to churn out academic robots for the purpose of "being ahead of other countries," then that's what you do...socialization, after-school activities, family time be damned.
Let kids be kids. There will be enough time in their adult time for longer hours and being chained to a desk. Childhood is so short.

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I agree. There is no DOUBT our educational system needs work, but in reforming it, I would like to see kids hang onto their childhood and be allowed to be children, I would like to see that as the number one priority.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I left out time for practicing of musical instruments. I firmly believe music saved me from getting involved in drugs and all that stuff. My circle were the band and chorus nerds, and it was a good circle to be in. How devastating to never have time to practice. I probably wouldn't even be where I am today without that outlet to keep me straight.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The DJs repeatedly say that prank calls have been done every day by every radio station.

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Nor only is that a poor excuse but it's simply not true. I've listened to many radio programs that never resort to childish pranks.

The Jon andKen show, which is available for streaming to anyone for free, is a hysterical show and they never prank, tease, or deceive. Just the facts, ma'am. There is plenty of humor to be had in the every day to not have to resort to that.

fidosmommy said...

We have the luxury of hindsight on this prank.
We can stop and think what we would have done in Nurse Saldanah's shoes and make a sensible decision. But the fact is, we were not at that desk answering that phone. She was. This nurse had a 2 second timeframe to decide what to do. I can't say I would have thought it through properly before I took action.

Now the DJ's - that's a cat of a different breed. They had PLENTY of time to decide what to do and not do. Sadly, they made their choice.

fidosmommy said...

We have the luxury of hindsight on this prank.
We can stop and think what we would have done in Nurse Saldanah's shoes and make a sensible decision. But the fact is, we were not at that desk answering that phone. She was. This nurse had a 2 second timeframe to decide what to do. I can't say I would have thought it through properly before I took action.

Now the DJ's - that's a cat of a different breed. They had PLENTY of time to decide what to do and not do. Sadly, they made their choice.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't say I would have thought it through properly before I took action.

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Yes. I'm willing to bet I would have actually put that call through unless there was some kind of hospital protocol telling me otherwise. It didn't occur to me prank calling the royals was something people did until this happened. Bob Novak called me once at my journalism job. I put the call through to the top right away. It never occurred to me it was a prank. It wasn't a prank, but it just as easily could have been. Just shows that most people usually just accept you are who you say you are. People believe the best in people. How could I know it wasn't just a good voice impression?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Blowing it wasn't the words. It was the action. She put it through. Putting it through was the event that started everything.

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No question about it. It never should have been put through. It was a major screw-up, one that I hope will never happen again. My point was that it was good that what was released was as benign as it was. So much more private medical information could have been released, but it wasn't. The hospital and the nurse who gave out the information can thank their lucky stars for that. It could have been much more embarrassing for Kate and Will, and their families.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sure of course it could have been worse she could have told us way more. It was apparently bad enough as it was for that nurse to commit suicide though. It was enough for her. I'm guessing to her it didn't matter if the color of Kate's slippers was the only information released, the point was she broke that trust and tore down that veil of confidentiality. I pray the best for her family. Saw a pic of her girls today, they are so young and sweet.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sorry not girls, kids. She has a boy and a girl.

ncgirl said...

I just read the first woman to have surviving quintuplets died. She was Mary Ann Darling Fisher, age 79, of South Dakota. There were 11 children in all. Here are excerpts from the obituary at
http://tinyurl.com/crcvech

"Thrust into the spotlight after giving birth to the four girls and one boy, Fischer and her then-husband retreated into the most quintessential South Dakota activities: they took part in a bowling league, hunted pheasants and attended regular Sunday church services.

"I would rather go into the delivery room than come down here," Mary Ann Fischer said as she faced 30 reporters at her first news conference following the birth of the babies."

"Gifts poured in for the quintuplets and their parents, including diaper service, baby clothes, college scholarships and insurance policies for a new 17-room mansion outside of Aberdeen, a town of about 25,000 people in northeast South Dakota.

The couple, who later divorced, signed a five-year exclusive contract with a publishing house for coverage of the family in December 1963, with the bulk of that money going into a trust fund for the couple's nine girls and two boys."

The book was never published, and it goes on to say the fame was fleeting.

ncgirl said...

Corrected to say the first in the United States to have quintuplets.

Anonymous said...

But to that nurse, it was her sacred duty to serve the royal family and there was no choice but to literally slay herself if she ever violated it

Admin don't you think that statement is a little melodramatic?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Dramatic? To me yes. To that nurse, no, sadly. I don't know if they are going to release her suicide letter but that's is exactly what her brother said. PIck a name.

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 127
I left out time for practicing of musical instruments. I firmly believe music saved me from getting involved in drugs and all that stuff. My circle were the band and chorus nerds, and it was a good circle to be in. How devastating to never have time to practice. I probably wouldn't even be where I am today without that outlet to keep me straight.
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music also helps with math. Studying foreign language should also be mandatory- so many benefits to learning a second a language on the brain on thinking skills. And of course physical ed, which should start in Kindergarten. Boy, kids school days are going to be 9 hours long at this rate and that's not counting homework- good for them!! I wonder when this "let kids be kids" sentiment started? It sure wasn't like that 300 years ago, and it's not like that in small indigenous tribes, where kids shadow their adults and learn their skills and trades (fishing, hunting)....not a bad thing, they have fun, but this sentiment doesnt exit. Just curiosity. I dont support child slave labor- so dont start twisting my words or putting words in my mouth. I was an anthropology major too long- society fascinates me.

Anonymous said...

I hope the media is leaving the nurse's family alone. I am not following the story, so I dont know. Those poor children dont need reporters and cameras right now- or ever- if they dont want.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Let kids be kids I believe originated in Biblical times, when the disciples were brushing the children off telling them to be gone with them (I'm guessing they were doing what kids have always done--loud, talking, giggling, creating a ruckus), and Jesus said hold up there it's cool let them come up here and talk to me. :-) In seriousness, people have understood a child's right to play and be free for hundreds of years. It's only in the last decade or two or so we suddenly decided to chain them to school and other scheduled activities 19 hours a day. The Little House books which are true stories describe TONS of time for playing. Yes there was work yes there was school but there was a heck of a lot of playing and imagination and music and crafts too.

I was referring to time to practice instruments AFTER school. Kids need time in band but they also need time by themselves, in a quiet room, practicing. Usually best done at home.

A recent documentary I watched was of the opinion that due to No Child Left Behind, less and less time has been devoted to gym class, resulting in a dramatic increase in childhood obesity. I haven't done enough independent research to form an opinion about whether that is true, but it sure is something to consider when saying we should focus just on academics. What's the point of a child who knows how to do math if he is killing his health?

Millicent said...

Ex Nurse, I don't find your comments about the current state of the school system extreme. They mirror the experience I've had with my son going through school in CA. In kindergarten, birthdays were celebrated. Beyond that, up to about grade 2, a brief celebration was allowed during recess. After that, parents were advised to please have celebrations after school hours. Funding is tied to meeting criteria that often doesn't fairly reflect actual progress.

What is extreme about suggesting people look more deeply into the federal policies that dictate school curriculum and put pressure on teachers to "teach to the test"? That's not so different than similar comments about how child labor laws need to be updated to prevent exploitation. One can disagree without being disagreeable.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


What is extreme about suggesting people look more deeply into the federal policies that dictate school curriculum and put pressure on teachers to "teach to the test"?

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Millicent I think you just hit on the point I've overlooked. We've become an educational system where there is no time for everything else. Instead of trying to squeeze in things many people still feel are very important, like birthdays and holidays, we need to look at how we got to the point where there simply isn't time even if we wanted to. We've talked about that issue before at length and have had interesting discussions. I am moved by how much people really do care about educating our kids here. As long as people care we will keep progressing.

New post by the way! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Giving.

SCratching my head here said...

i'm confused how someone parked on this blog that is about child exploitation and has spoken out so vocally about the gosselin exploitation and child labor laws, would rag on let kids be kids. Ummm yeeeeah that was the whole point of getting these kids off t.v. so they could just be kids. W...T....F you seriously dont believe in let kids be kids? then why not just put them back to work then I heard Kate is getting a show if anyone will buy it.

the 47 Percent here said...

In lower income schools a lot of parents cannot afford to give children social activities outside of school that's it for them that's all they will get. Wake up.
Easy for you to say just do a birthday outside school. For some kids that is the only birthday they will get! #heartlessandoutoftouch

silimom said...

Ex Nurse 17 said...I have fond memories of Halloween and Valentine's Day,too. But my teachers weren't evaluated by test scores as are teachers today. And, schools weren't shut down due to poor test scores, either--but they are now. And, I didn't have hours of homework or wear a backpack that equalled 25% of my body weight because classroom work can no longer be completed during the school day. I was able to have a family dinner and participate n scouting and other after-school activities,

And yet I would have to say that our parents and grandparents generations were more well read and articulate, even perhaps more appreciative of the value of science in popular culture than successive generations have been and yet less was expected of them and us. So what is the difference? What changed?

I think it is that we focused more on critical thinking than we do now in our society. You can thank "A Nation at Risk" for our current state of education. This report was released during the Reagan era and used declining rates in SAT scores to invoke a fear based response to advocate for education reforms.

Here is a good website if you're interested:

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2008/04/07/richard-rothstein/a-nation-at-risk-twenty-five-years-later/

Starz22 said...

Kate is a twit...

I'm not saying any religion is wrong or right...
I'm saying if you are 1 of the 4 that don't want to go along with the Christmas party and dance...why not keep you'r child home for the day...OR allow them to go to another room to watch a movie,or whatever you agree on is right for that child? Why stop 400 other kids from having a good time?

I just don't get why 400 kids are told they are wrong,and their beliefs mean nothing.Like the Chinese New year....My kids school take a week to learn about it...we have a party and eat food inspired by it,listen to music, ect ect.
It may not be my thing...but I won't stop my kids from being involved...I'm not gonna pitch a fit to have it stopped...It's good for my kids to learn about other cultures .
I guess I want the same curtasey extended to me.

TLC stinks said...

I think my wish for the New Year is about to come true...no more Kate Gosselin. The fact that this blog is taking a new path proves that. The only thing I am waiting on yet is Robert's revised book. I hope it goes mainstream. It may give Kate some publicity for the short term, but oh, it will be sooooo bad for the long term.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Anonymous said...

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