Saturday, September 15, 2012

Kate posts up-close photo of Mady's legs

The up close and personal picture of Mady trying on Kate's heels sparked outrage from the moment Kate put it on her Twitter account, and now the poor child is getting attention for it on Radaronline and The Daily Mail.

The New York Times explored the issue of posting children's photos online in this revealing article from 2009. A must read.

Popular Mommy blogger Eve Vawter also wrote an excellent article about the issue on Mommyish.com, quoted in part here. We like her common sense:


"Kids try on their mom’s shoes. This happens every hour of every day in every house with kids. I did it, you did it, our kids have done it. There is nothing wrong with that. But posting a picture on the internet, of your 11-year-old’s bare legs, her toenails pedicured and painted, clad in peep-toe satin and glitter heels, it’s just plain creepy. Kate Gosselin doesn’t know every single one of her Twitter followers personally. She doesn’t know who is glancing at the photograph and saying “Cute, my kids did that” or who is uploading the photograph to some terrible child exploitation website. And by posting this picture, she is inadvertently sexualizing her 11-year-old kid.

It can be argued that child sex abusers can find any photograph of a kid “sexy.” That even the most innocent picture of a kid fully dressed and standing there can be exploited by child predators for nefarious purposes. And all though I agree there is nothing wrong with a kid trying on her mom’s high heels, looking at the picture of Mady it’s obvious to me that posting it on the internet was a bad idea. It isn’t a picture of a kid being silly and playing dress-up, it looks like a slightly menacing sexualized photograph of a girl standing, her legs apart, teetering helplessly on too-big heels in a darkened room. And Kate Gosselin didn’t need to post it, but I suppose it can also be argued that Kate Gosselin uses any excuse to exploit any of her eight children for attention and publicity, whether good or bad, to feed her gaping maw of a fame hole."

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Rhymes with Witch said...

Sorry if I upset anyone. I tried to let go of this all day but it bothered me too much. 193

Dogs and kids, I am not speaking for anyone else, although maybe I am I took that comment as aimed straight at Kate Gosselin, not at any or all who had/have fertility problems. I too have fertility problems and am childless and took no offense.

The poster was correct Kate Gosselin should never have had children I will not go off on my diatribe - I am truly happy you have a family, however you did.

aggiemom09121416 said...

AuntieAnn said
really doubt if Kate was unable to conceive without the help of treatments. I do think she very carefully planned her HOM pregnancies though and manipulated everyone to do what was necessary in order to make it a HOM pregnancy
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I agree with you! I believe she said she had some syndrome, yet others that suffer with it says Kate shows no physical symptoms.
She just wanted to be a baby machine.

Dwindle said...

chefsummer said... 2

Why not post her own legs instead of her 12yr?

Why not let the creeps and freaks fawn over her own legs?

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She has tried that 10,000 times and no one fawns over her legs but Milo.

A Mom said...

can't believe Kate is on twitter all day while kids play. Kate doesn't get down and play like Jon who said "play with your kids" in a early Jon & Kate show. Kate's response " someone has to be the parent". Being a parent doesn't mean just sitting in a chair and barking orders. When the girls get involved with boys they'll most likely be younger and girls will order them around. The boys will be bossed around from girls. Jon ask yourself do you want your sons berated by girlfriends? Hopefully Jon will step and and be both a parent & friend to his kids. Jon can end the cycle if he steps up to the base NOW!

Dwindle said...

PiggyPie_ said... 197
Dogsandkids, I am very sorry. Adoption is terrific and I did not mean to insinuate that everyone with fertility issues shouldn't have kids. I should have worded it better or made a disclaimer.

I don't believe Kate actually had trouble conceiving because they got treatment very early in their marriage.

Again, my deepest apologies.
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Your apology sounds so sincere. Kudos, in my opinion, to you for extending it.

Dwindle said...

Remona Blue said... 199
Hit publish too soon!

I really don't think that Kate has the IQ to realize how suggestive the photo of Mady's legs is, much less how absolutely stupid it was to put it on twitter!
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HI REMONA! WAVING WILDLY AT YOU!

You may very well be right. We already know that her IQ seems on the lower side, and then she never tries to learn or expand her knowledge or thinking process. But even the fact that she is too stupd to know what she has done is still proof that she is not capable of raising children. And cooking them small meals and obsessivly wiping down counter tops does not make it all ok, Kate.

#kategosselinisadangerousmother

Fertility Awareness Buff said...

Having been through infertility myself and having received the identical treatments that Kate received, I'd like to give my opinion.

I do not think she was infertile. I believe she knew exactly how to make herself ovulate in greater extremes and I believe she took that into her own hands.

Her doctor was completely unethical if he agreed to perform an IUI with an excess of seven follicles present. (Remember, there were seven in the beginning) My doctor would not perform an IUI with more than four follicles present. Usually, you get 3 or 4 follicles and that will result in a single pregnancy. Imagine how many were present to result in SEVEN.

Her story is a lie.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I really don't think that Kate has the IQ to realize how suggestive the photo of Mady's legs is, much less how absolutely stupid it was to
put it on twitter! 199

I respectfully disagree. It was designed to cause controversy. She's hoping to go on tee vee and wipe her tears about the bullies and haters.

wayward said...

Some observations after skimming the days events.

Kate? You may have honestly posted that photo thinking it was cute. For sake of argument, let's say it is cute. You need to keep future "cute photos" of all of your children for YOUR EYES ONLY. What is cute to you, is a dream for a pedophile with a foot fetish. Your address can be googled in 10 seconds. The name of your children's school can be discovered in one minute. PLEASE think of the safety of your children. These are you and Jon's children, not America's children. You owe no one photos of them.

Speaking of Jon, if he went to court tomorrow, the judge would throw him out. If a welfare mother living in a trailer put a photo like this on Facebook, she would be in a shizload of trouble. But since quasi-famous, mansion-dwelling Kate did it, it is just an innocent, cute photo.

LOL at Milo for not believing Kate that Shoka is still at the manse eating all the local varmints. She wants a PICTURE as proof and she wants it NOW!!!! She loves ya Kate.... but even Milo knows you're a lying crock o' shit.

Speaking of sheeple, hey sheeple? Have you noticed that when the kids were at Jon's last week & weekend for his 50/50 custody, Kate was very vague and just claimed to be "busy" for days on end? No menus, very little tweeting, no specifics. This week and weekend she's tweeting up a damn storm (like she does when the kids are around) naming kids by name, spelling out their intinerary and taking inappropriate pictures. She has the kids right now. This coming week, Jon will have them. Deal with it.

Dwindle said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 181


If she did get outside, what's she going to do..attack them with a label maker? She's really compromised her kids' safety, one by being on a reality show, and two,constantly twittering about them and keeping weirdos interested in her kids.

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She could heave a meat slicer at them... Oh wait... she is pretty fond of that meat slicer.

Tamara said...

Everyone, I'm having knee surgery in the morning and would like to ask for any and all prayers and good thoughts. Not only that it will go well, but that the anesthesia will work properly. One of my brothers, labouring under the idea that he's funny, keeps sending me clips from the film "Awake". Well, that's brothers for you.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Tamara, I have one of those brothers so I know what you mean.

I am sure all will go well and I will pray also for a speedy recovery. Please keep us posted, hon.

FYI said...

Tamara said... 12

Sending prayers and positive thoughts. I hope all goes well. Check in when you can and let us know how you are.

mamaK said...

Kate does write in "I want you to know" that while growing up she had these twin dolls that she loved to play with. And her mom had a story that Kate always said she wanted twins? I think it was too early in their marriage for a physical reason to be the problem, as they were only married for 6 months or so? I have heard of many people with PCOS (or whatever it is that Kate has) who have gone on to have babies, especially after the first one, so I don't really believe her story. Course, I don't really believe many of her stories.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Jumping In said... 172

I think Kate's brain only works on three things all the time.

1.How to grift.
2.How to stay famous.
3.How to use my kids to stay famous.
4.How to blame Jon.
5. How to make everything about me.

And this is all she thinks about day in and day out. lol

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
RT @deannatweeting @kateplusmy8 I don't read tabloid mags /websites bc Ive seen the behind the scenes truth&have seen the lies they printed!
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Aw poor Kate every one is lying on her and bullying her.

Cause she's the best mom evea and only thinks of the kids and their needs.-(rolf)

Dwindle said...

denni don't like Kate..... said... 122
I'm a long-time reader here, but infrequent poster
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Hi, denni, it is nice to see you!

aggiemom09121416 said...

Her tweeting count since the kids got back to the orphanage might be a record....she has non-stopped tweeting all freakin weekend. What mother of EIGHT kids has this kind of time (or desire) to tweet complete strangers what her kids are doing!
If my kids were with the other parent during custody time, and he was non-stop tweeting, I'd be contacting an atty for lack of parental supervision. She is raising those kids in bizarre-o world.

dogsandkids said...

Hi Piggy Pie-thanks for the apology-I appreciate it, and I believe you didn't intend it the way I took it. I also agree that Kate probably isn't infertile-she didn't try it naturally long enough to establish that.

Anonymous said...

Tamara said... 12

Everyone, I'm having knee surgery in the morning and would like to ask for any and all prayers and good thoughts. Not only that it will go well, but that the anesthesia will work properly. One of my brothers, labouring under the idea that he's funny, keeps sending me clips from the film "Awake". Well, that's brothers for you.

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Tamara, full speed ahead.

Think nothing but positive thoughts- you WILL experience a successful knee surgery, and you WILL be good as new before you know it.

May God bless, and comfort you.

With love,
Pink

Unknown said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 9
''I respectfully disagree. It was designed to cause controversy. She's hoping to go on tee vee and wipe her tears about the bullies and haters.''
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I think that we're probably both right. She took the photo w/o the IQ to realize it was suggestive, and stupidly posted it.

When the uproar over the photo started, THEN she posted the other 'baiting' posts, thinking that she might be able to get some interviews about being bullied and how awful the ''haters'' are.

Tamara, good thoughts going your way.

Dwindle said...

Tamara said... 12
Everyone, I'm having knee surgery in the morning

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Tell the anesthesiologist of your fear.

I wish you all the luck in the world, dear, for successful surgery, for your comfort and quick healing, for your peace of mind, and to hear back from you as soon as you can.

AuntieAnn said...

She could heave a meat slicer at them... Oh wait... she is pretty fond of that meat slicer.
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Ah but Dwindle she hasn't mentioned her beloved meat slicer in a couple of days. Is the novelty wearing off already?

I'm still waiting and am willing to host a blog pool on the date of her announcement about buying a crock pot.


#kateisawasheduprealitytvmom

Molly12 said...

I am going to out myself today and admit that I have a guilty pleasure of weekly tabloid magazines. In this week’s Star Magazine they have “Celebs Shack Up With The Help”. There is a picture of Kate and Steve with a heart. “Kate Gosselin & The Bodyguard. The mother of eight has denied it, but seems like she gained a new mate in her constant companion and family bodyguard, Steve Neild”. I bet she is in heaven that she made the gossip rags once again. The main story of this week was Dangerous Body Obsessions. I wonder why she didn’t make that list as well.

AuntieAnn said...

Positive thoughts are with you Tamara.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Tamara said... 12
Everyone, I'm having knee surgery in the morning
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I hope you recovery speedily.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

What a frickin liar. Austin wants to know if Kate received his little package/gift yet and she says she has not gone to get her mail for some time now. Sure. Checking her mail is like Christmas morning for the mediocre and we know how greedy she is so to say that is such bs. Gah. She must have to write a list after picking up her gifts from the twits so that she remembers who sent her what. And that photo of Mady. She is a little actress through and through. Why is she posing like a little tramp. I suspect that is just her personality. Very dramatic and attention seeking if you ask me. She is going to be trouble.

Anonymous said...

Tamara....good thoughts ands prayers for you.

aggiemom09121416 said...

What kind of account was set up for the G kids after the proverbial s$$$ hit the fan?

Dwindle said...

wayward said... 10

Speaking of sheeple, hey sheeple? Have you noticed that when the kids were at Jon's last week & weekend for his 50/50 custody, Kate was very vague and just claimed to be "busy" for days on end? No menus, very little tweeting, no specifics. This week and weekend she's tweeting up a damn storm (like she does when the kids are around) naming kids by name, spelling out their intinerary and taking inappropriate pictures. She has the kids right now. This coming week, Jon will have them. Deal with it.
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They may have been gone TWO weeks with Jon last time as she was quiet for at least 10 days. So maybe! it will be 2 weeks Jon, and 1 week Kate? We will have to see, but I wouldnt be surprised if she has them all this coming week and then goes on twitter silence again for the 2 weeks after that. She only tweets when she has the kids, as we all know. They might be doing 2 weeks each at a time.

Unknown said...

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said... 28
......'' And that photo of Mady. She is a little actress through and through. Why is she posing like a little tramp. I suspect that is just her personality. Very dramatic and attention seeking if you ask me. She is going to be trouble.''
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Oh my goodness! I have two daughters, and I taught them to keep their knees together, pull their dresses down, your panties are private. I don't think that Kate has ever taught her girls anything at all about anything like that. It may be true that Mady will be ''trouble'', but if so, it will be due to lack of a Mother's attention. Saying that Mady is ''posing like a little tramp'' is WAY too harsh, in my opinion!!

Dwindle said...

AuntieAnn said... 24
She could heave a meat slicer at them... Oh wait... she is pretty fond of that meat slicer.
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Ah but Dwindle she hasn't mentioned her beloved meat slicer in a couple of days. Is the novelty wearing off already?

I'm still waiting and am willing to host a blog pool on the date of her announcement about buying a crock pot.


#kateisawasheduprealitytvmom
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YES! A Crock Pot pool! She has alread talked about a crock pot before but now that *I* said I have six and used to line up several to have a full meal ready, she will be buying more crock pots! Actually one of my daughters has one that is 3 crocks side by side in one unit. You dont chose, you use all 3 (or some have 5) all at the same time. I will try to find a pic and post it for Kate, so she can keep up with the Dwindles!

aggiemom09121416 said...

Seems like some time ago, Kate said she had to 'break out' both of her crock pots...that it took that much to feed her kids. Judging from the slop she throws on those paper plates, perhaps she means the little itty bitty ones,lol??
I have one crock pot, a big oval one, used for roasts.
But, I have 3, count 'em, three kitchenaid mixers...and I am *still* trying to grift a new white 7 qt mixer...
:)

to the poster going through surgery tomorrow, sending you positive thoughts and a speedy recovery.

Formerly Duped said...

Tamara: Good luck with your surgery ! Hope it all goes well!

readerlady: about Parents' Night- I forget who posted but it was a local person whom I inferred was saying he could have gone as well as Kate could have, but didn't. I may well have misinterpreted this but I had the feeling the poster was discreetly commenting on that.


re: Kate's 'no recipe of course' tweet. How does she expect to publish a cookbook if she has no recipes and disparages those who use them? She acts so lofty about her meals. Is 'all else' now forgotten or is she the cat who swallowed a canary?

Dwindle said...

http://www.amazon.com/Rival-SCRBC759-PS-Cooker-Buffet-Server/dp/B003BLBWLQ/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1347843092&sr=8-11&keywords=3+crock+slow+cooker+buffet

Here ya go, Kate. They had several on this site but I am posting the most expensive for you. But I bet if you put your back into a bit you can find a WAY more expensive golden-platter one.

So aggiemom, what is your date for the crock pot expansion or are you just starting a pool?

aggiemom09121416 said...

If she has 24 chickens, why does she need 25 more????????that's a LOT of chickens!!! no way can her family eat that many eggs.

Dwindle said...

http://www.amazon.com/Rival-SCRBC909-BS-3-Quart-Cooker-Stainless/dp/B002TSJEYO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_2

Oh wait, here kate. This one the crocks are a little bigger. Maybe you can check back later and see what date I pick for the pool of when you will announce your new crock pots? If you could announce them on MY date, i would appreciate it and after all, you owe me big time. Thanks in advance, Kate.

angie said...

Dwindle, I have the 3 side by side crock pot. How about that. But Katie doesn't have one.

Tamara, very best and lots of positive thinking tomorrow. You will be okay.

We take our cat to the Vet for the Vet to decide if our cat has any chance, but I doubt we will be bringing him home again. Sad, so sad for us.

aggiemom09121416 said...

This is what Kate needs to start doing...she's got two kitchenaid mixers...she ought to start making her own organic pasta, grinding her own organic meat, stuffing her own organic sausage...etc..
lol

as far as the crockpot pool?? I leave that to Dwindle, queen of the crackpots..oops, crockpots!!

Dwindle said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 37
If she has 24 chickens, why does she need 25 more????????that's a LOT of chickens!!! no way can her family eat that many eggs.
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She is just trying to show me up. I said she would post about BUSY BUSY BUSY! HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY! EARLY EARLY EARLY! EGGS EGGS EGGS! and CUTE TODDLER THINGS MY 8 YEAR OLD SAID!

So far I am hitting em all pretty close. snark.

#kategosselinisadangerousmother

Formerly Duped said...

small btw to Kate: the plural of Lego is...Lego! I hate when people say Legos.( That bugs me almost as much as her 'veges.') She is obviously grifting for more

My son had a part-time job at Lego and the corporate reps really reprimanded any employees who said Legos.

Ok, I'm signing off!

fade2black said...

angie said...I have the 3 side by side crock pot.
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I only have a one pot crock. :o( I'll admit it. I'm jellus.

Dmasy said...

Tamara, best wishes for tomorrow. Please get back to us a soon as you are able. Quick recovery to you.

angie, your heart will break tomorrow. Keep your best memories and know that you are doing the kindest of all choices for your dear pet.

aggiemom09121416 said...

I can't imagine having that many chickens (usually a dozen is enough for a family). But 4 dz chickens? Unless her original ones have quit laying or are getting old, maybe they are headed to the freezer?

Dwindle, you need to make a believer out of me about crockpots. You need to share your best recipes, main dish,veges (lol), and dessert...I'd like to try that, sounds interesting!

Angie, sorry about your little fur baby. I hope that the three of you will be able to get through the morning. My thoughts are with you as well. Pets are so loving and trusting, so whatever choice you make is in her best interest...

AuntieAnn said...

Dwindle hehe. You see what's going to happen here don't you. She's going to HAVE to run out and buy those crock-pots (eight of them for sure) but if she blogs about them, she's giving herself away that she's stalking your appliance cupboard. And we know it'll kill her to keep her pie hole shut about them.

Oh the humanity.

#kateisafraud

chefsummer #Leh said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 40
This is what Kate needs to start doing...she's got two kitchenaid mixers...she ought to start making her own organic pasta, grinding her own organic meat, stuffing her own organic sausage...etc..
lol
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Don't give her any idea. lol

Nest thing you know she going to be tweeting.

"I just made fresh organic homemade pasta the kids are raving".

fade2black said...

Remona Blue said...Saying that Mady is ''posing like a little tramp'
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It's my opinion that the child is posing like her mother, so...well...yeah...

Sandi said...

This woman (Milo) has gone beyond creepy
Tweets to Kate~

Nice that ur kids cooperate & do things like this 2gether! Clearly U have a happy, well adjusted bunch! Ur doin a gr8 job Kate!

Kate....would ya please DM me or e-mail me WHEN those big runs R comin up? Need 2make sure I'll be around? Please & thank U! :)

Nice that U can b "commander in chief"& have ur lil army of helpers provide the leg work 4 puttin stuff away! #EightHelpers

Ur so funny Kate.."happily organizing"..ONLY YOU can get the utter joy & mental high fr this task! Go 2it girl! #PositiveView

Since U didn't get 2go2mornin service..I guess this is the next best thing..
"CleanlinessNextToGodliness" Enjoy fruits of labor!

Had something happen here that reminded me of ur excellent parenting example N Oct.2010 at the corn maze w/Collin! U remember?

Ur kids had gone thru a rough patch post divorce..U took the moment 2commend, admonish & show ur special concern & love 4him!:)

It was a special moment,a pivotal moment..& maybe even a life-changing moment 4ur precious Collin! I always admired U 4 that!

OMG, is it me or has this woman completely gone off the deep end? I truly feel a sadness for Milo, grasping every moment of Gosselin life as her own. How sad for her own family.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Sandi said... 49

Kate's got a real stalker now and she will not be ignored.

Looks like Steve going to have to be a real BG instead of a fake one.

Wowser said...

I have been following Kate's latest debacle and all I can say is WOW she has reached an even higher level of stupid than I thought was possible to attain. The problem with Kate is that I really don't think her intentions at the beginning of something she starts are contrived ( bear with me here)... She sort if responds in an impulsive "ready, fire, aim" mode and doesn't think things through. In her mind, the kids are still the same age as when the show stopped thus the continued reference to the "littles" and "hair pane" references. Kate posts pictures of her kids to keep herself out there and relevant. The problem is that she does these stupid stunts without thinking of the consequences and she is so narcissistic and full of herself as an "acclaimed super mom" that she could never humble herself and admit that maybe what she did was done in haste and probably not a good idea...so she gets arrogant and flippant and spends the next few days either ignoring or defending on twitter. I believe she was too embarrassed to go to church today so the whole "we want to sleep in just this once and miss church thing" was total BS. I also think she has prepared Maddy by telling her the crazy people are saying bad things about your picture but "I" did nothing wrong and if the kids say anything to you tomorrow just ignore them because they are jellus if us" yadayadayada. I also think the basement cleaning unicorn Von trapp family cleaners event today is just the beginning if their next ten year prison sentence. It will only get worse as Kate circles the drain and her behaviors get more Dina lo-hanish. She has no choice as they get older but to keep them in the komoound and away from people...only because Kate doesn't want any secrets to get out about what really goes on in that house. Her joke about Steve madden shoes is revealing and sad....I feel bad for Maddy. She basically just told her daughter that her revelance is not as important as Kate's significance.
#iwishapedophilewouldputkateinaroomwithhimfor15minutesmaybethenshewouldgetit

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Just saw picture: No words, just no words!

Tamara, thoughts and prayers and wishing you a speedy recovery.

fade2black said...

Tamara, I hope you're all healed and better than before very quickly. Ahh, brothers, our loving bullies. What would we do without them?

anger issues kate said...

Tamara; good luck.

readerlady said...

Tamara -- Prayers for a comfortable night, a successful surgery anda swift and painfree recovery.

Angie -- Prayers for you, too. Our fur babies are only lent to us for such a short time. The hardest thing for a pet person is making that decision to let their baby cross the Bridge. I hope you can find comfort in all the purrs and headbutts you've received over the years. You know your life was richer for that kitty's presence.

Formerly -- I remember reading that post, now that you mention it. I took it that the poster was referring to KK as not having gone to Parents' Night, but you may be right and neither went. I just assumed that Jon would go, since the locals have said he's always been so involved with the kids' school and their activities. If he didn't go, shame on him.

#kategosselinisanasshatandaVERYbadmother

Fertility Awareness Buff said...

If Kate is infertile, then why did she insist that Jon get a vasectomy?

Unknown said...

fade2black said... 48 Remona Blue said...Saying that Mady is ''posing like a little tramp'
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It's my opinion that the child is posing like her mother, so...well...yeah..
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Wait a minute. I didn't say that Mady is ''posing like a little tramp''! I was quoting another poster who said that. So, if we're going to discuss the ''pose''...let's discuss it.

If you look at the photo again, you will see that Mady's knee is bent because she's sliding her foot into the shoe. I don't believe that Mady is ''posing'' at all...it's just the moment that Kate snapped the photo. Now Kate is still stupid as a box of hair for posting the photo on her twitter, and for continuing to post 'cutsie' comments about the photo, but what is new about Kate being stupid? She's been stuck on stupid for years now!!

Rhymes with Witch said...

#iwishapedophilewouldputkateinaroomwithhimfor15minutesmaybethenshewouldgetit
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But she WON'T. EVER. GET IT.

#scaredforthosechhildren

Dwindle said...

Dear Kate;
SOMETIMES you have to shut up, swallow your pride and admit that you are wrong. It's not giving in, it's called GROWING UP. And you are way behind.

readerlady said...

Aaaaaauuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! I keep intending to mention it and forgetting. I think the reason KK walks with her legs apart the way she does is because it's the only way she can keep her balance in those ridiculous stilettos she wears. If you have a balance problem and get PT for it, that's the first thing they teach you -- widen your base.

#kategosselinisanasshatandaVERYbadmother

Improbable Dreams said...

Testing...

3 posts of mine got eaten, so I'm trying again, this time on another computer.

Positive vibes and prayers going out to Tamara tonight--to everyone, in fact, who's undergoing stressful times and circumstances. I don't always mention it here, but I am holding all of you in my thoughts.

Wowser said...

Berks Resident: thanks for the WW crockpot recipe on the last blog. I made it today and my family loved it!! You were right...the Rotel tomatoes gave it a great "kick". I love this blog! : )

fade2black said...

Sorry Remona, didn't mean to misquote you.

Anonymous said...

You know for someone who says she eats healthy and that her kids eat an organic diet and at one time said her younger kids don't know what fast food is (I am almost certain I heard it out of her mouth somewhere)...

They sure seemed to eat a lot of bread items. Pancake breakfasts, waffles, French toast, morning breads and all that.

So, Kate you eat salads but make your kids casseroles, you drink water but give your kids juice and all you yammer on about is coffee in the morning while you give your kids bread.

Then you turn right around and talk about family runs.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a little weird?

rainbowsandunicorns said...

OMG. I was just reading comments from some of the articles (most were the "leave Kate alone" variety), but one of them, and I'm presuming it was from a guy, said that he would love to caress those young legs.

This, Kate, is what YOU did.

anger issues kate said...

I just was watching some youtube of the gosselin going green. Geez, there are some haters ones there(real disgusting ones) and a few from the episode. I have to say, that Kate certainly made Sarah Snow look and sound like an asshole. Sarah Snow is going on & On about how Kate is so green, yet during the episode they show styro foam cups, paperplates, yeah real green with using those. And of course Kate yelling and being rude to Jon, the solar panel guy, etc. Thank GOD she is off the air.

Dwindle said...

readerlady said... 60
Aaaaaauuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! I keep intending to mention it and forgetting. I think the reason KK walks with her legs apart the way she does is because it's the only way she can keep her balance in those ridiculous stilettos she wears. If you have a balance problem and get PT for it, that's the first thing they teach you -- widen your base.

#kategosselinisanasshatandaVERYbadmother
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I wonder if her wide legged stance and walking pattern has anything to do with the protruding pelvic bone so many noticed when she wore that clingy dress to sit in the audience of DWTS.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPxyglZQR20AgqCJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DKate%2BGosselin%2BMary%2BHart%2BDWTS%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D1&w=468&h=411&imgurl=i.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2010%2F11%2F25%2Farticle-0-0C366206000005DC-550_468x411.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpreesi.lefora.com%2F2012%2F03%2F14%2Ftweets-from-the-twat-37-going-on-12-year-old-unemp%2Fpage17%2F&size=41.5+KB&name=interview%3A+Kate+Gosselin+talked+to+Entertainmetn+Tonight%26%2339%3Bs+Mary+Hart+...&p=Kate+Gosselin+Mary+Hart+DWTS&oid=0b7ae8f1ebc1131881daa1f1605419d8&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-701&tt=interview%253A%2BKate%2BGosselin%2Btalked%2Bto%2BEntertainmetn%2BTonight%2526%252339%253Bs%2BMary%2BHart%2B...&b=0&ni=96&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12u8j7ivr&sigb=13lgfvf1r&sigi=12dj1mro2&.crumb=31U37Ytbnja


ooo that is a really long link, I hope it shortens itself when I hit publish.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I wear heels every now and then.

And I don't stand with my legs open. I still think Kate is looking 4 a crotch shot from the paps.

Silimom said...

According to her book Multiple Blessings and other interviews given by the both of them, Jon had agreed to 3 cycles. If nothing took, then Kate would have to learn to be content with the twins as he was.

The first round failed. The second round showed 3, possibly 4 follicles not 7 or 8 as was stated earlier today. While he didn't think it likely they'd get HOM, he doctor was concerned that they did not want to selectively reduce as they were adamant they only wanted one more. He suggested they scrap the cycle and try again until there was just 1-2 follicles. J & K went home, discussed it and Jon said "We'll never regret having more kids. Let's do it."

The rest is history.

So please don't call a doctor you've never met unethical just because you don't like Kate. 1) From my understanding, inseminating at that time with 3-4 follicles was standard practice and 2) Kate has fooled many smart, kind people over the years. Why should a doctor be any different?

Parent In Lancaster County said...

55, readerlady said...Formerly -- I remember reading that post, now that you mention it. I took it that the poster was referring to KK as not having gone to Parents' Night, but you may be right and neither went. I just assumed that Jon would go, since the locals have said he's always been so involved with the kids' school and their activities. If he didn't go, shame on him.

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Who said that Jon didn't go to Parents Night? There was a post that Kate tweeted about conversation at dinner at 6 p.m. and that the kids were in bed at 8:30. Parents Night went from 6:30 to 9:30 p.m. I don't remember Jon being mentioned.

Dmasy said...

Sandi, 49 -- those are some mighty weird tweets. If I had anyone in my life that communicated to me with such possessiveness, I would contact the authorities.

That is not friendly, it is scary.

Amy2 said...

I looked at the pic from DWTS with Kate standing next to Mary Hart. My first thought was...the classy lady stands next to the tramp. Guess who the tramp is.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Silimom said...J & K went home, discussed it and Jon said "We'll never regret having more kids. Let's do it."
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Is that directly from the book? Never heard that before, that Jon was the real impetus to go ahead and try during that time.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Knowing now what we know about Kate and all of her lies, I really don't believe everything that was written in Multiple Blessings. It was Kate telling her story to Beth, and Beth wrote it. At the time, no one knew about Kate's penchant for lying, but we know it now. Therefore, I am skeptical about everything that comes out of her mouth, even things she said years ago.

Well, I'm through for today. Blessings to those going through difficult issues tomorrow. Goodnight everyone.

readerlady said...

Parent -- See Formerly Duped's post at 35 on this page. I don't remember who posted about Parents' Night, or even what thread, although I think it was the last one. She took the comment to mean that Jon didn't go either. I didn't, but she may be right. IDK. No one flat out said he didn't go, but no one said he did, either. Since he's been said to be so supportive and involved with the school, I'd be surprised if he didn't go, but . . . Who knows. Or, to pick up KK's attempts at bad Spanish - Quien Sabe?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate....would ya please DM me or e-mail me WHEN those big runs R comin up? Need 2make sure I'll be around? Please & thank U! :)
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That's Milo trying to impress the new fans that she has a close and personal relationship with Kate. The ONLY time Milo hasn't been around was when she had her surgery and a recent vacation. She's regular as clockwork, tweeting mid-morning before her run and tweeting after her dinner time. Sad pathetic little woman.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not to mention, not a single kid of the eight was over at a friend's house today? This is not normal. No church, no friends, isolation.

AuntieAnn said...

chefsummer said... 68

I wear heels every now and then.

And I don't stand with my legs open. I still think Kate is looking 4 a crotch shot from the paps.

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Better her's than her daughters' but I don't think the paps are even interested in Kate anymore.


#katesfutureisintheshitter

Moose Mania said...


That's Milo trying to impress the new fans that she has a close and personal relationship with Kate. The ONLY time Milo hasn't been around was when she had her surgery and a recent vacation. She's regular as clockwork, tweeting mid-morning before her run and tweeting after her dinner time. Sad pathetic little woman.

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...and so transparent.

MiloandJack
@NickieC3 @Kateplusmy8 @gypsi001 @r3boz @SandieBellz @Mydmaxx @thebumpiestpath @beck4boys @BarbGilmer Well..doll..we missed U too! Nice2CU!

Doll? What woman calls another woman "doll?" Are we 100 percent sure that Milo is of the female gender?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

How early do they really have to get up for church anyway? Most churches have later services that don't start until 9:30, 10, even 11 oclock. That's not bad at all. I find it hard to believe not a single one of the eight wanted to go see their friends at church and rather wanted to stay home and organize. I bet that will teach them.

It is not "just this once." They missed church just the other week because one kid of the eight had a cold.

Moose Mania said...


OMG, is it me or has this woman completely gone off the deep end? I truly feel a sadness for Milo, grasping every moment of Gosselin life as her own. How sad for her own family.

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Nobody really knows if she has a family, or if all of that is a total fabrication. She (or he) could very well be confined in some kind of facility, which is why Milo has never made any attempt to meet Kate. If someone is so totally devoted to a celebrity, it would seem that at some point, that person would show up at the celebrity's public appearance.

I only hope that someone on Kate's crack security team is monitoring this, keeping track of the communication with Kate, and is watching this person. It's getting worse, not better, and I just hope that there isn't a tragic outcome because clearly, she or he is nuts. No question about it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Someone asked Eve Vawter who wrote that great common sense article why she reposted the pic of Mady, she explained that when Kate takes it down so will she. I like her style.

Eve Vawter MOD • 5 hours ago • parent
I didn't take the pic, nor did I post it on twitter, nor am I in charge of any of the other news websites who have posted it. That being said, I appreciate your point and if Kate takes it down I will as well.

Catherine, Bodyguard My Ass said...

When someone looks at a photograph their eyes are automatically drawn to the lighter part of the scene. That's just science. The lightest part of that picture is at the top of Mady's leg because that's where the flash was aimed. Kate never aimed at the shoes, she aimed straight at Mady's legs above the knees. She can deny all she wants, but it's a fact. She can fool her dense fans, but the average, non-idiot knows what Kate did to Mady & if there is a conscience to be found in the entertainment media, Kate should never be interviewed again, at least not one of those fluffy softball interviews.

Bearswife said...

Okay, catching up here after being away for the weekend and you all have said it so much better than I could have!
But please put me in the disgusted pile, so horribly disgusted. It is almost like kHate is grooming her for some twisted purposes.

Tamara, good luck tomorrow! Are you just having orthoscopic or something more invasive?
My DH is going in on Wednesday for knee surgery (ortho) and he is a wreck. He is a very squemish person and is afraid they will just give him a local. I won't even tell him about 'Awake'.

Angie, sorry to hear about your kitty. It is never easy to be in that situation.

JoyinVirginia, following up on your question about quilting. I follow a quilter's blog even though I don't quilt. She is a very good writer and her stuff is amazing. You might want to check it out, she is an inspiring person.
http://www.fullmoonfiberart.com/

chefsummer #Leh said...

Sadly Kate could take the photo down and she should.

Bur even if she does it's plastered all over the web.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is the best line ever in Eve's blog:

She doesn’t know who is glancing at the photograph and saying “Cute, my kids did that” or who is uploading the photograph to some terrible child exploitation website. And by posting this picture, she is inadvertently sexualizing her 11-year-old kid.

Thanks Eve for explaining it much better than I could. When I think this blog does all right, I encounter bloggers like this so much better at expressing themselves than I am!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Steve Madden is I'm assuming a normal person and I'd assume would be horrified their shoes are in the middle of an event like this. Maybe they can be the ones to ask Kate to please take it down or no more freebies.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Remona Blue said... 57
fade2black said... 48 Remona Blue said...Saying that Mady is ''posing like a little tramp'

It is my opinion that Mady is the one out of the 8 who mugs for the cameras when given the opportunity and Kate is always blabbing on about Mady being a little producer. There has been so much talk and opinion about Mady being Kate's little protege. What I have seen leads ME (and everyone is entitled to their opinion) to think that Mady might like the fact her mom is a pseudo celeb and wants to emulate her. She is well aware that mom is flitting off to NYC to 'work' as a 'celeb'. That is heady stuff for an 11 year old. Most celeb's kids go in to the biz because that is what they have been exposed to for most of their lives. I say Mady is the one who may gravitate towards the industry and Kate more than like encourages it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Most kids have friends, sports, birthday parties, church events, outings shopping or to the movies or dinner, every single weekend. This just isn't normal they are stuck indoors the whole time only playing with each other like Flowers in the Attic. Hey that could be my next photoshop. Kate is definitely the evil grandmother. She's got to let them have friends over on a regular basis and let them go over to friends, it's just so crucial.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am sorry but I did not let my daughter wear heels and stockings at the age of 11 and she is only 20 now, so it's not like I'm talking about the old days.

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I definitely think it's a parenting choice whether, and where and when you let a teen girl play with grown up things like heels and even take pics of it. Some might say never, others might say it's okay.

But where I don't see a lot of gray area is if you do allow it, to take pics of such a thing and post it to so many people you don't even know. It's just wrong, period.

Fertility Awareness Buff said...

Let me explain something here.

A follicle is another word for EGG. It takes about 10 days for an EGG to get ready to be fertilized. When you are getting an IUI, you are checked on cycle day 10 to see how many follicles(eggs) are present and they are measured to determine which might be viable. If the cycle if successful, you expect to see 2 to 4 viable follicles.

You then go home, test your ovulation each day and then return for your IUI when you get a positive test. (unless you are using a trigger shot which will take the guess work out of it.)

Usually around Cycle day 13 or 14, you will return for your IUI. You are then checked via internal sonogram to determine the number and sizes of your follicles. This happens before the insemination. If Kate were to conceive SEVEN babies, she'd have to have a MINIMUM of SEVEN follicles (eggs)-- UNLESS some of the kids were identical twins. Are any of them identical? I don't think so.

The problem here is that too many people have believed the LIE she told in Multiple Blessings. We gloss over her report of 'hyper-stimulated ovaries' and just get right to the 'Oh joy, we're pregnant'-- The doctor is bound by HIPAA and can't tell the world that she's a liar.

I don't believe she ever received the IUI. I think she lied to Jon and said she got it. Then she asked him for 'follow up sex' that day-- which is pretty standard practice. (I've been instructed to do that after ever IUI)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm taking my warm cin/raisin bread out of my breadmaker then going2bed! Thx 4 the overwhelming love&support all-- old&new friends alike!XO about 2 hours ago

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What she calls support I call "enabling." Pota-toe, pita-toe.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. I wouldn't have taken a photo like that in the first place, much less share it with family members. For what purpose? When the child becomes an adult who looks through a family album, wouldn't she say to her mother, "What in the heck were you thinking...taking a picture of me with my legs spread apart?" There was nothing cute about it (this was not a toddler) and why photograph the legs in order to show a kid trying on shoes?

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That may be true but at least that would remove the pedophiles from the equation. To me that part of it is just more of a legitimate parenting difference of opinion. I agree with you, but at least the kids aren't in danger if you just keep it to your inner circle. But what Kate did is just well, CREEPY, as Eve said. There is no room for legitimate parenting differences IMO.

NJGal51 said...

Tamara - my thoughts and prayers are with you for an easy surgery and a speedy and u eventual recovery.

Angie - my thoughts and prayers are with you and your fur baby. We never have them as long as we want but while they are with us they show us nothing but pure love.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Dmasy I know it's not organic but febreeze may help your locker room smell. I stayed several times in school classrooms on mission trips and it got that smell quickly. Air it out, vacuum, sweep, spray with Febreeze. Should work.

Anonymous said...

The picture reminds me of some of the kindle e-book erotica covers.

Anonymous said...

"Gaping maw of a fame hole"

OK, I laughed so hard I had to get up from the computer.....

What an appropriate phrase........

Do you think kart will know what it means? LOL

KateGetsFreeStuff Inc. said...

PiggyPie- do you read Kindle Erotica?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"Gaping maw of a fame hole"

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LOL!

We should trend that one on Twitter.

#Gapingmawofafamehole

fidosmommy said...

Mady has always been dramatic. When she was a little girl we saw her expressions and stances that spoke for her. I think she's hardwired for some kind of performance enterprises.


I know I was a lot like Mady when I was a pre teen. The thought of being a performer pleased me a lot. I didn't have dreams of being a global phenomenom, just locally popular.
I know the feelings. But it wasn't going to happen, and thankfully I was able to understand that. I ended up in career that puts me "center stage", but the venue is small. It satisfies that deep seated desire to perform for an audience yet I am not in the entertainment field. Not by a long shot.

I hope Mady can find a career that satisfies her deeply and richly.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Jon needs to grow a pair and stop this before she throws another picture up on Twitter to see what she can stir up

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It really needs to be understood that it is not Jon who needs to grow anything, but the judge. And a judge is constrained by the law so even if they wanted to grow something they might not feel they could.

If you don't want parents to be able to share pics of their kids like this, I'm afraid you've got to push a bill through your legislature. I think expecting Jon to fix all this is asking him to work a miracle.

Free Flight said...

Dmasy I know it's not organic but febreeze may help your locker room smell. I stayed several times in school classrooms on mission trips and it got that smell quickly. Air it out, vacuum, sweep, spray with Febreeze. Should work.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Word of caution. If you have birds in the house, do not use the product.

Call Me Crazy said...

Tamara - I'm sure your surgery will go well tomorrow. Many people are sending prayers and positive thoughts your way.

angie - I am so sorry about your kitty. I wish you peace during this sad time.
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I do not wish to offend anyone, but I have to say I am extremely uncomfortable when posters speculate about and criticize Mady. I don't think it is appropriate or helpful in any way to talk about her like she is an adult making decisions for herself. She is a young child who has been placed in a terrible position, and she will most certainly suffer some fallout from Kate's latest horrific bad parenting. There have already been reprehensible things posted online about this child. I hate to see any of us getting so caught up in our disgust for Kate that we allow ourselves to add to any negativity about this child.

It is quite possible that things may not turn out well for M or for the other children (through no fault of their own), but I believe that unfounded speculation about any of the children is not a good thing. Thanks for listening.

Anonymous said...

Tamara,

Good luck tomorrow. Enjoy the pain meds afterwards. They are the silver lining in the black cloud of pain... LOL.

I've had enough surgery and kidney stones to no longer be afraid of pain. As my doc says to me before a procedure, "we've got pills for that". Excellent.

I love my doc! :-)

rainbowsandunicorns said...

There has been discussion that Mady will have to face other kids tomorrow at school and the photo may generate some teasing. Tweets have been put out that...

xxxxxx
@PMKids @kateplusmy8 Mady has off for jewish Holidays since her school has many Jews but wait til she is back the chitter chatter abt pic


Contrary to this tweet, school is in session tomorrow, and I hope that Kate is prepared for the backlash that this kid might face. I wonder if Mady saw this photo before Kate posted it.

JoyinVirginia said...

ON A LIGHTER NOTE:
The new season of Saturday Night Live premiered this weekend, and it had lots of funny skits. One of the funniest was Weekend Update where Seth Myers had Honey Boo Boo and Mama as his guests. it is on nbc.com, one of the SNL clips featured. At the end of the skit it was very truthful, ” all you gotta do is join a werewolf family or fill your house with cat skeletons and TLC will hook you up with your own TV show!”
So Ms Kreider will continue to show up on twitter wars, brief mentions in celeb mags or on entertainment tonight, but until she becomes a hoarder with dog feces in the house, or starts sacrificing chickens in the back yard, TLC will NOT come calling again!

Unknown said...

Call Me Crazy said... 102
''........There have already been reprehensible things posted online about this child. I hate to see any of us getting so caught up in our disgust for Kate that we allow ourselves to add to any negativity about this child.''
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Amen!

Anonymous said...

As for my knee surgery, I happen to not wake up gently from general anesthesia. The last time the recovery room nurse said I almost hit her. No memory of that, but I did apologize in my fentanyl haze. I think....

Anyhoo, for knee procedures I get spinal anesthesia. It wears off gradually enough that I can tell when I need pain med and don't wait up disoriented in pain.

Another small pearl learned through experience.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It also wouldn't stop the non-fans from re-posting the pictures and discussing them, since it has been stated on this blog, by the blog's administrator among others, that it is acceptable to copy and paste information from private Twitter accounts since there they don't really count as "private."


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Well to clarify I don't exactly condone reposting things from private twitter accounts, however I have said a private twitter account isn't really private and I stand by that. It's not private unless you know each and every follower personally. If you make it private but then amass a bunch of strangers, you have to right to cry foul.

I don't think a private twitter account solves the problem. Who is to say that any number of the fans are not creepers? She doesn't know who these people are. She needs to get off twitter period.

JoyinVirginia said...

Tamara, best wishes on your knee surgery. My dh had an Achilles tendon repair in July, made out fine, and neighbor had both knees done couple years ago, he is golfing every day now.
Bearswife, thanks for the quilt blog recommendation, I will check it out!
Auntie Ann, I will join any crockpot pool, and raise you Pinterest that Ms Kreider will” discover” to post those amazingish crockpot recipes!
Just to clarify, on SNL,, Honey Boo Boo and Mama were portrayed by SNL regulars who were hilarious!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tamara good luck tomorrow I'm sure it will be fine. Can I recommend Marie Calendar's pot pies to get you back on the mend? I've had to go under a few times lately and I always stock up on those even though I don't eat them normally--they are nice and warm and nutritious, but not anything wild and crazy, easy to make if no one is around to help (just throw in the oven) and good for recovery.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Can I recommend Marie Calendar's pot pies to get you back on the mend? I've had to go under a few times lately and I always stock up on those even though I don't eat them normally--they are nice and warm and nutritious, but not anything wild and crazy, easy to make if no one is around to help (just throw in the oven) and good for recovery.

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I always have those in the freezer to fall back on in case my "made from scratch" dinners fall short on expectations! They come out just as great from the microwave as they do in the oven...dough is brown and flaky, not soggy.

I've only tried the chicken. Is the beef just as good?

NJGal51 said...
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Jumping In said...

Admin.....I agree with you, but my thinking is that Jon stand up to Kate and let it be known to her that she must stop this. What I am perplexed about is the extended family not stepping up (with Jon) and insisting she leave the children out of her pursuit of fame, an intervention of sorts. He needs support from relatives who care for these children and stand up to her collectively.

Jon was so brow beaten by her in the past, the the feeling most people have is that he has no voice when it comes to her behavior and their kids. Custody, and being the responsible parent can't just cover his 50% of the time. If inappropriate things are happening to their children in her care, where can he turn in order to protect them?

No-one wants him to play this out in the media, it would just be comforting to know he is working on preventing her from doing something this inappropriate again. Perhaps he is quietly doing just that, we can only hope.


Sleepless In Seattle said...

Who is to say that any number of the fans are not creepers? She doesn't know who these people are. She needs to get off twitter period.

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Yes, she does, but she won't. It's all she has left. She thanked her tweeties for their love and support (enabling). Without them, she'd be staring at the walls when the kids are gone, or watching old videos of herself. She would be Norma in no time flat.

When you think about it, it's really sad, but she has nobody to thank but herself. Twitter is her life support system. That's how far the mighty have fallen.

Jumping In said...

Tamara.....Good luck with your surgery tomorrow, all will go well.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I think Kate has been deleting tweets. I went over to twitiq and her legs tweet and the basement mess tweet seem to be gone

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The leg picture is the last one on September 14 before she went to bed. It's still there, as well as the basement picture. It's easier to find them if you check Tweet Tunnel.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin.....I agree with you, but my thinking is that Jon stand up to Kate and let it be known to her that she must stop this. What I am perplexed about is the extended family not stepping up (with Jon) and insisting she leave the children out of her pursuit of fame, an intervention of sorts. He needs support from relatives who care for these children and stand up to her collectively.

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The thing is this all has pretty much happened both publicly and privately. We saw exactly what happened to Jodi and Kevin when they tried to stop it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sleepless I've never had the beef. Only chicken and I think there is a turkey option. It's just so nutritious for a healing body.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Sleepless I've never had the beef. Only chicken and I think there is a turkey option. It's just so nutritious for a healing body.

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Thanks, admin. There aren't too many frozen dinners I eat, but the pot pies are excellent. Stouffers makes one, too, but I don't think it's quite as good as Marie's. They also make a three cheese tortellini that's not bad.

Stephanie M said...

I find it sad that all of us would NOT hesitate to find a lawyer to stop this nonsense...yet Jon always seems to get a pass.

There are no proof positive documentation that he's even tried in court.

I find him a pathetic father for not protecting his 8. He can love them all day long but without making a show in court, he's lost my sympathy.

silimom said...

Tweet-le:

This is an excerpt from the book that is still available from the Oprah website. It was posted when they were on her show. Jon's quote I believe is on page 8 or 9.

http://www.oprah.com/relationships/Multiple-Blessings-Book-Excerpt-Jon-and-Kate-Gosselin/1

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There are no proof positive documentation that he's even tried in court.

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There wouldn't be. It's confidential.

We do have proof he tried to stop the Australia trip--and was shot down. We do have proof from a docket the man has been to court at minimum dozens of times. We do have my source, whom you know, telling me Jon tried to stop twitter ages ago and failed.

You say there is no proof positive, and yet there is no proof the other way either. Where is your proof Jon hasn't tried everything to try to stop this nut? You're making a huge assumption he hasn't, even calling him pathetic. How do you know that?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Thanks, admin. There aren't too many frozen dinners I eat, but the pot pies are excellent.

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Same here. I only eat those, and Stouffer's mac and cheese. That's the extent of my trip down the freezer aisles, other than for ravioli (do they count?) and ice cream.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Same here. I only eat those, and Stouffer's mac and cheese. That's the extent of my trip down the freezer aisles, other than for ravioli (do they count?) and ice cream.

lol!! I thought I'd try Stouffer's chicken ala king, took one bite (terrible), put it down for the dog to see what she would do. She ate the chicken out of it, left the rest alone! The kids like the mac and cheese for lunch. It's okay, but I like it when it "stiffer" and not quite so creamy.
Now I'm hungry for pot pie!

silimom said...

Stephanie M - Child custody is not cut and dried. You can't just run in to court, say "Look at this photo my ex posted of our child" and suddenly be awarded full custody.

Remember, a judge will look at the overall, long term best interest of the child(ren) and they will err on keeping the kids in as consistent a situation as possible. In this case, it means time with both Mom and Dad.

Likely, a judge would look at this photo and not see anything but a lapse in judgement and disagreement between parents that could have been settled by the two talking it out rather than wasting his/her time in court.

Remember, if Jon's custody was increased to 50/50, he has already won a major victory in court and has taken steps to increase his presence and influence in his children's lives.

For all of us:

Kate is their mother. The kids didn't have a say in who their parents were, but we need to be mindful that they love both their parents very much. When we say nasty things about Kate or Jon, the kids can internalize those words and apply them to themselves. After all, they are 50% her and 50% him. I'm not saying don't criticize Kate or Jon, what I'm saying is be mindful of the words you use. That is good advice for all of us, Kate included.


"Careful the things you say. Children will listen. Careful the things you do, children will see and learn." Into the Woods - Stephen Sondheim

Stephanie M said...

I have a 'source'. LMAO

I guess my critical thinking skills stop when an anonymous poster and her 'source' (also anonymous)try to convince me they are 'in the know' without even a first name.
We'll agree!! to disagree.

I DO know I would fight tooth and nail until I got the result my children needed. I would not. quit. Period.

Stephanie M said...

I'm not saying don't criticize Kate or Jon, what I'm saying is be mindful of the words you use. That is good advice for all of us, Kate included.



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Are you kidding? Have you READ some of the stuff posted here about Kate? She's an alcoholic, she has meat flaps for a vagina, she's a pimp?

But for me to call Jon pathetic, I should watch MY words? Please.

Kate AND Jon deserve all they get.

Why all the Jon defending? Can I not dislike them both immensely and the same?

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Stephanie said, "I DO know I would fight tooth and nail until I got the result my children needed. I would not. quit. Period."

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Apparently you've never been in a PA court of law. Words are wonderful and dramatic. They sound good. However, the reality of it is that in the hands of a judge who consistently decides in favor of the mother, a man can become quite defeated and frustrated, if not bankrupt. When you have the same judge and you keep beating on his door, he is going to get quite ticked off, and you end up doing your case more harm than good.

You want a source? Here's one. I know Jon. He has tried, and tried, and tried some more to do everything that admin cited, and was not successful.

Where's the glycine? This is another one of those nights...

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Stephanie! There you are...only 2.8 miles from me. Did you enjoy your road trip with us? :)

fidosmommy said...

Stephanie M said... 127
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Are you kidding? Have you READ some of the stuff posted here about Kate? She's an alcoholic, she has meat flaps for a vagina, she's a pimp?

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Agree! Thanks for putting it so plainly for us!
Now will you tell the sheeple for us? Thanks!


silimom said...

Stephanie M - if you will note, I separated my comments. My advice to be mindful was not directed to you specifically, but to all of us, for many of the comments you stated. I have also read comments about Jon here over the years that have bordered on the same level as those you listed about Kate. I have been guilty of saying things I have later regretted, so I am including myself in that advice as well.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions. I am sorry if you feel you are being slammed. I'm glad that you would move heaven and earth and spend all of your money to try and remove your kids from a parent you thought was harming them. It speaks to your character. My point to you, however, is that the court system does not work in such a black and white manner as you seem to believe it does. It is a system, plain and simple, and needs to be worked like a system. And in the end, sometimes it is better for your children in the long run to pick and choose your battles.

I pray that you are never in a situation to experience the family court system first hand. If you have, my sympathies.

Stephanie M said...

You want a source? Here's one. I know Jon. He has tried, and tried, and tried some more to do everything that admin cited, and was not successful.
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Uh huh. I had lunch with Oprah the other day, too. Can I prove it? Nope. Are you gullible enough to believe it? Maybe.

Jon could get a new lawyer and continue. Why does everyone protect this guy so much?

I believe if you had read my post correctly, you'd realize I included Kate AND Jon.

Jon's a piece of shit. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it until I see otherwise. He is, however, slightly better than that piece of shit mother those children have.

Stephanie M said...

Aww thanks silimom, for such a respectful reply. I appreciate it. And I, too, hope I'm never in the situation Jon is in now. I HAVE been in family court, took out a loan to pay a good lawyer and though my child and I live ona fairly tight budget, we love each other and that's all that counts.

Anyways, thanks aga in to silimom for a respectful reply. I apologize if I was disrespectful to you. :)

Maggie said...

So Ms Kreider will continue to show up on twitter wars, brief mentions in celeb mags or on entertainment tonight,
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Has Kate been mentioned on any TV shows about her modeling in NY or the leg/shoe mess? Anyone seen any TV coverage about this? THanks!

Dmasy said...
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Dmasy said...

Thanks for the Febreeze advice. Just recently I saw a recipe for a homemade version. The windows are all open. We are having perfect late summer days here. Mums are blooming.

Fertility, 91 -- thank you for that information. I did not know most of what you explained so well.

Parent in Lancaster -- when you see Jon, please say something encouraging from those of us here who believe he has a huge battle on his hands.

Dmasy said...

Stephanie M -- are you 2.8 miles from me?

Seriously, it is pretty easy to tell that you are a passionate mother bear. Everything about this Gosselin situation is emotional to moms who try hard and care intensely.

I think that is why we gravitated to this site.

We have all felt frustration and anger and sadness over the decisions made by Jon and Kate which effect innocent (and very public) children.

You have strong feelings. Administrator has created a blog where you can share them with us. Maybe you won't agree with everything that is said here, but it is a great place to learn. I think sources here have been vetted and are as reliable as an anonymous format can allow. But, no one has to believe something that does "smell" right to them.

Everyone -- have a great Monday.

Tamara and angie, we are thinking of you.



Dmasy said...

My post at 138 should say "something that doesn't smell right". Gonna go get some coffee now. Wits will be sharper after.

Berks Resident said...

Wowser: You are welcome!! I love love my crockpot as I have two count em two mediocre jobs and it's hard to cook in between them :) I saw a woman at church had the silver one with the little clips on the side to lock it so I went out and got that one, it is fabulous. There are so many things I would love try still.

Tamara: Prayers for you today as you have your knee surgery and for a speedy and comfortable recovery.

Tired of talking about Kart. I work with children and the way she exploits hers depresses me daily. She is a lost cause. There are so many interesting people on this blog, that I consider to be more fun to talk to!

chefsummer #Leh said...

I'm sorry but Jon needs to take what ever backlash my come from Kate.

He needs to tell her that she needs to take that photo down.

Kate's not use to be stood up to people seems to back down when they do.

When will people stop backing down to her?. I mean what's the worst she can do if he does.

(Just my opinion)

Pity Party said...

I ventured over and took a look at the twitter page. She was contemplating whether to "prep" two dozen eggs for breakfast or a triple batch of pancakes. One can suffice that math is not her strong point but then what is her strong point. I don't even do 2 dozen eggs when making deviled eggs for Thanksgiving with my entire family/extended family. We have seen her portion sizes and I would say she might use 8, but looks more like 6.

How and/or why do you prep scrambled eggs the night before or even pancakes.

Here's a little time saver, get your pan hot, crack the eggs into a bowl, whip, and pour slowly into pan. Five minutes tops. It will take her longer to crack them than to cook them.

Home made pancakes flour, milk, maybe an egg and a dash of vanilla and/or dash of maple syrup, throw in some blueberries or chocolate chips and put them on a griddle. Make them small and manageable and stack when done. Spray with a little butter and top with syrup and serve. Whew, I am tired just thinking of all that work.

The work, the horror!

TLC stinks said...

I think we have exhausted the Mady leg picture. I agree with everyone that Kate will do ANYTHING to stay relevant. She may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she does know how to turn bad into good for her. It's a manipulation game and she may very well be the master. I cannot get over how she manages to quash people from speaking the truth about her. Robert, are you still with us?

We can continue to express outrage at her antics, but by doing so please remember she is manipulating US too. Would the tabs have given her that publicity if we had not been outraged by the Mady leg shot?


Choleric Kreider said...

TLC stinks, Robert is not with us. He's too busy counting his payoff from Kate.

Dmasy said...

This paragraph is from a book I just started reading. It relates, but more than that I liked the thought.

"You can escape from prison, but how do you escape from a convincing story? After enough repetitions, the facts come to serve the story and not the other way around. Like kudzu, suddenly the story is everywhere and impenetrable."

TLC stinks said...

Right Choleric, what a disappointment. I guess he is afraid of his " facts". We don't know if he was paid off ( Preesi's group believes that) but AGAIN, Kate and her money ( lawyers) have scared the guy off. It appears he could not back up his facts or no threats would have stopped him.

What it is going to take is a TLC insider or family member to come clean about how deceitful and messed up Kate is. I guess they figure they are protecting the kids, but at what price for those kids' mental health?

Anonymous said...

Someone spoke above about picking and choosing battles in court cases, but noticing on this thread how outraged everyone is about Kate posting this picture, about pedophiles, etc., don't you think that this is one battle that Jon should choose to fight?

Marie

Anonymous said...

I really don't understand why when a poster points something about that Jon could change or do better that they are called a "sheeple." Can we please stop doing this? Jon is not a saint either. And just because someone points out a fault that Jon has, doesn't mean they are a Kate fan or a "sheeple."

Marie

Bears wife said...

Permanent name,

I hope you see this! My dh was told he might get a spinal on Wednesday and he is terrified. Are you 'conscious' during a spinal? He says he needs to be knocked out for the procedure. the surgeons office said they will discuss anesthesia the day of.

TIA!

KAT said...

Maybe Jon IS fighting.....we just don't know about it....who the hell know whats going on...

Anonymous said...

Another point, most of the posters on this board came here to try to protect the kids of Jon and Kate. The posting of this picture of Mady is a danger to Mady and should be taken down. This puts Mady out to all pedosphiles on the internet. This is why most of us are here. Jon and Kate both have a responsibility to protect these children. Both should be held to that responsibility. Jon is their father. Kate is their mother. If a poster here feels that one or the other or both are not doing that, then they should feel free to voice that opinion and not be bashed for doing it.

Marie

JoyinVirginia said...

I an trying to process two very different events in my non virtual life.
My mother has been in hospice care for six months, after many mini strokes. She has been in an excellent nursing home for some years and I manage her affairs and go visit every few weeks. She is happily demented and living in her youth in her mind most of the time. the hospice nurse called me last week, mom is so much better she is no longer qualified to receive hospice care! Its like that Monty Python sketch. ”Bring out your dead!” Guy brings out his mother in law. ”I'm not dead yet!
Meanwhile, a person I knew in real life, acquaintance for quite a few years, nice guy, good mechanic, friendly with neighbors, never on trouble with the law... He and his girlfriend are dead, victims of a murder suicide, but news reports are not clear on who did the shooting. These were people in their late 40s or early 50s.
Why is one person expected to die now doing great, while a couple of average people with no obvious history of problems now dead?
I know there is no answer. Things just

Formerly Duped said...

No tweets from kate?

Wonder how Mady's day is going? Hope not too badly.

I agree Robert has disappeared- he said he had done so much work for this book I wouldn't be surprised if it turns up somehow at a later date, but I'm not holding my breath.He did seem very passionate about getting the story out.

Re: Jon at Parents' Night. Sorry if I mislead anyone. Obviously I don't know if he attended. I just assumed from a local who posted as having hinted that he didn't. It would make sense if he went to the elementary night and K to the middle school one, although I don't know why either would miss those very important nights for all their kids. I said I may have totally misinterpreted the comment so apologies!
Hard to know the truth about those two! I really hope Jon gave his opinion on Mady's picture and maybe will seek legal advice for the future.

TLC stinks said...

Marie, unless Jon comes up with some bucks, I think he cannot battle Kate in court. She can hire the best lawyers.

I detect there is burnout with reality shows and moms pimping their families on TV. Already cable networks are returning to scripted shows. I think there is even Facebook burnout. Twitter is evolving and popular. Kate has found a niche to stay relevant with it. I don't know if there is anything Jon could do unless he goes to family court proving pedophiles are commenting on his kids due to Kate's picture taking. Perhaps he is preparing for such a thing. Like I said, lawyers cost money and I expect he cannot match the big guns Kate would have.

BTW, anyone here think Steve has moved on? No radio station ride, no Alabama beach vacay, no NYC catwalk. I guess "road manager" is not profitable these days :)

Rhymes with Witch said...

To all of the Jewish posters here:

"May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year."

TLC stinks said...

JoyinVirginia, I'm in VA too. My mother has Alzheimer's so I know what you are going through. The blessing is that she has no memory of any family members passing. She is like a child, healthy in body, and just turned 93.

Anonymous said...

TLC Stinks . . . I know from experience that you do not have to have a lawyer to take a matter up with the Friend of the Court and Child Services. You can bring a concern to both without having to go to court. They will open a case and investigate. If they deem there is a problem, they will refer it to the appropriate authorities. I realize that Jon does not have the same resources that Kate has, but I would have to believe that if he needed help, his family would help him.

If you really believe that this picture is detrimental to Mady and dangerous to Mady, as you all have been saying on this board, then Jon should have no problem getting someone to look at this.

Marie

Improbable Dreams said...

Dmasy said... 145
This paragraph is from a book I just started reading. It relates, but more than that I liked the thought.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dmasy~ Great quote! What's the source, if you don't mind my asking? Thanks for posting it...

TLC stinks said...

Thanks, Marie. Then I hope Jon does something because it is obvious to me that Kate is grooming Mady and Mady is receptive to her mother's influence. Kate will see nothing wrong when her young teenage daughter dresses provocatively because mommie does too.

Formerly Duped said...

Joy: I understand the stress. I saw my mother through two catastrophic illness all the way to her passing. I feel for you & your family and hope things work out for the best.

Dmasy said...

Improbable, It is from "A Wilderness of Error: The Trials of Jeffery MacDonald" by Errol Morris. I just started reading in the AM hours of today.

I heard on the news that a judge is considering an appeal for MacDonald. I had read Fatal Vision by Joe McGinnis (more than once) and had followed this murder case from my generation. DNA was not available at the time, only blood typing. I think DNA evidence that might still be available is the basis for the appeal.

MacDonald, who has been in prison for over 3 decades, still claims to be innocent of killing his wife and 2 daughters. His story pops up on the ID channel every so often. 10 years ago he married while in prison and his wife is vigilant in his defense.

Based on "the story", I certainly believed that he was guilty. I don't know where this book will take me.

Jane said...

Bears wife said... 149
Permanent name,

I hope you see this! My dh was told he might get a spinal on Wednesday and he is terrified. Are you 'conscious' during a spinal? He says he needs to be knocked out for the procedure. the surgeons office said they will discuss anesthesia the day of.

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I had a spinal before knee surgery and was given a mild anesthesia before. I wasn't awake and felt nothing. Having knee surgery was so much better this way than having the full-blown general anesthesia. None of that hangover, groggy feeling after.

Good luck too all going through surgeries : )

Anonymous said...

My apologies in advance to all goats of the world. But Kate is like a goat. If you've ever seen a goat and looked into their eyes, their eyes look like glass eyes. There is absolutely nothing behind them. They are the dumbest of the dumb animals on this earth. Kate is just like that. Her eyes are vacant and stupid. She is very single minded in her stupidness. If you look at the things she says, you will understand what I mean. She is one of those people who gets fixated on a goal and can see nothing beyond that or absolutely anthing around her. She was "determined" to get pregnant. She was "determined" to have the six children even though she couldn't afford them. She is "determined" to have a show on TV even though it may be detrimental to her children. She was "determined" to continue with her show even though it may have cost her her marriage. She is an out and out stupid person. She is "determined" to do what she wants to prove the haters wrong. I am afraid that the so-called haters only encourage her stupidity and her supporters only make her "determination" to be stupid even more extreme. She is a lost cause.

The only person who can make a difference now in the lives of the children is Jon. And knowing what little I know of Jon, I fear that he will do what he can to avoid Kate's ire.

Marie

aggiemom09121416 said...

Whhaattt?? no tweets from the queen?? She tweeted all weekend (have to do something to get away from the kids, I guess), and not one tweet this am? no rush to the bus stop? no breakfast tales? no looking for shoes or backpacks?
maybe she drank herself into a stupor last night, the nanny got the kids up and to school,and the queen is sleeping it off..she had an exhausting weekend! or perhaps she is on conference call with her attys to fix her latest mommy debacle.
I say Jon needs to contact an atty or child welfare authorities. Kate will only get worse if not stopped.
Some say the child in question is like her mother...but maybe after years of being the target, maybe she has learned it's better to play for mommy's team and avoid the wrath?

Choleric Kreider said...

Formerly Duped said... 153

I agree Robert has disappeared- he said he had done so much work for this book I wouldn't be surprised if it turns up somehow at a later date, but I'm not holding my breath.He did seem very passionate about getting the story out.


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
For a man who had the balls enough to relentlessly taunt Kate on Twitter, his website and a Facebook page, the fact that he has said absolutely nothing since 7/30/12 the only logical explanation is silence via lawsuit or payoff. If it is a lawsuit, he was in the midst of it when he tweeted updates.

Formerly Duped said...

Wonder why the majority of comments on various websites are blowing off the Mady pic. Maybe b/c the cropped version was the one most people saw?
Kate usually generated bad press!

Choleric: Yes, definitely.His attitude of cat & mouse was weird. Well, I hope he keeps his book proofs!

Anonymous said...

Bears wife said... 149

Hey, Bears wife, my husband had hip replacement surgery last November, and they used a spinal. He was out for the surgery (so, they use something in addition to the spinal - not sure what, sorry! Maybe valium, maybe propofil), but he came out of the procedure much more easily, and was able to transition to pain meds better than if he had had general anesthesia.

Conversely, I witnessed my mom struggle after general anesthesia for 2 separate knee replacement surgeries.

Best wishes to your hubby.

And, Tamara - hoping your procedure is going well!!

Improbable Dreams said...

Thanks, Dmasy! Sounds like a thought-provoking book. I hope the author's approach proves as provocative and well-considered as that quote.

I'm wondering about Robert/the Gosselin Book, too. I'd believe that he was paid off for not publishing it, but were that the case, I should think he would've removed the blog entries and website. #thingsthatmakemegohmmmm

Also, Formerly Duped (166), I think the reactions were mixed about the photo, but to my admittedly biased eye, it seemed as if there were many, many negative comments posted about Kate Gosselin. "They" say that there's no such thing as bad press, but I don't agree 100%. It's a very good sign, I think, that many people were able to view this latest travesty in the context of many egregious behaviors over time. At some point, you get to Critical Mass, after which people's mindsets solidify and there's no going back.

Mel said...

Joy - mom is so much better she is no longer qualified to receive hospice care!

Went thru this with my mom. She'd get better with all the support of hospice, enough that she'd be kicked out of the program.

Then, without the hospice support, she would decline over the next 5-6 months, and qualify to be back on it.

This happened 3 or 4 times. Made me crazy.

Wishing you (and your mom) well....

Bearswife said...

Thank you everyone for your input on having a spinal!!
Dh is terrified and you certainly have helped put my mind at ease. He is a big ol' baby and anything I can say to calm him helps a lot!

It is 'just' orthoscopic, but to him it might as well be a knee replacement.

chefsummer #Leh said...

TLC stinks said... 159
Thanks, Marie. Then I hope Jon does something because it is obvious to me that Kate is grooming Mady and Mady is receptive to her mother's influence. Kate will see nothing wrong when her young teenage daughter dresses provocatively because mommie does too.
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Exactly I don't want to see Maddy or any of the girls become like Lindsey or Amanda Bynes.

I don't want any of the kids to be that way.

But they will turn out that way with the parents they've got.

Formerly Duped said...

Bearswife:

Good luck to him ( and you!) lol, good thing men don't have to give birth. My DH had a lot of surgery this winter so I empathize with you both.

LBelle said...

My opinion of Jon has run from hot to cold, great to horrid and everything in between since I've been 'involved' in this family's life. I think he has done a great deal of good for quite some time now....a few slip ups here and there that leave me shaki g my head and thinking WHY?. ....but, for the most part, I personally think he's doing as good as can be expected considering what he's up against in the form of his nasty, self-serving ex-wife. Can you guys just imagine havi g to actually deal with that biotch for real?? OMG! Poor guys.

With that said, I do have to confess that the impacted child while shopping g for free furniture is what got me looking up this family. I was outraged at the total and complete lack of concern by this so called 'mother'. Really, what the hell kind of mother acts like THAT towards a child clearly in agony?? But....I remember also thinking that, if I had been in Jon's position, I would have packed that poor child up and taken him wherever I could to fix his problem. Wouldn't have given a damn what my spouse wanted or thought. Just would have scooped him up, left the skank to her grifting and GONE!!! Find your own way home, hitch a ride with the crew 'family'....don't care. I was so angry at BOTH of them...would have kicked HER teeth in but also would have given HIM a piece of my mind!

I guess my point is in this long and dragged out post is...I don't think anybody here thinks Jon is a saint but he, even way back then, is a waaaaay better parent to those kids than Kate could ever hope to be.

SG said...

There's no way Kate took that pic of Mady for personal memories and then innocently decided to post it on Twitter. She took that pic specifically to post on Twitter.

SG said...

No, Jon is not perfect but I choose to support him because I think he's the only hope those children have for love and affection and any form of a normal, happy, fun life.

SG said...

I don't think it's fair to assume that Jon's family can help him out financially any time he needs money. It's quite possible they have done all they can. Maybe they can only support Jon emotionally now. Not everyone has someone they can turn to that has unlimited financial assets they can keep doling out to help a family member or friend in need.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I can tell you all how you know when you need to take a break from this vrtual nightmare that is KG. it's when she enters your mind in a dream and you find yourself telling her to get the hell off twitter. Guess it's enough Kate for me, but like a moth to a flame, i come back to read more.

Anonymous said...

"Gaping maw of a fame hole"...

Simple, eliquent & appropriate.

Jeeze, Kate. Enough already.
Get your act together.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


If you really believe that this picture is detrimental to Mady and dangerous to Mady, as you all have been saying on this board, then Jon should have no problem getting someone to look at this.

Marie

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There is no problem getting a lawyer to look at it. But I'm telling you right now that lawyer will want at minimum $350 an hour, and a good lawyer would be honest with Jon and tell him that even if they try to fight this, they will probably lose, as there is no law preventing a parent from doing such a thing. Does it make sense for Jon to fork over thousands of dollars fighting yet another losing battle in the courts and empowering Kate all the more? Or does it make more sense to save that money to support his children and give them the best possible life when they ARE with him so he can eventually petition for full custody. The guy is not in an easy position. It is not as easy as demanding that Kate take the photo down. She doesn't have to unless a judge makes her. He might also get his hand slapped for bringing the same motion again and again when the judge already told him he wasn't going to make her shut down twitter. He asked.

It's so easy to say just take her to court but I'm trying to explain why in parental alienation cases it gets to be too much for any normal human being.

Formerly Duped said...

OT: re care of seniors.(or over 50 as well!)

My mom had a headache for a few days, nothing new for her. Then she had the s/s of a stroke! At the hospital, after spending the night on a stretcher, the dr said take her home, must be a stroke, nothing could be done. Well, luckily as I was a nurse I knew how the system works and what care a stroke patient requires-I asked for some tests and other measures to be taken- medication, anti-emboli stockings etc and they did keep her. She was found to have a brain abscess ( from an infection caused by teeth cleaning at the dentist- pre-glove use days)She had surgery and a long recovery ( a year but then was 99% fine & independent again) and was there for several years to enjoy her grandchildren- until cancer claimed her.

So please- advocate for your relatives who cannot for themselves , or if you are over 50, don't be surprised if you are written off by callus people who think life is not worthwhile at that age!

Just a little OT for all of us. :(

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I know from experience that you do not have to have a lawyer to take a matter up with the Friend of the Court and Child Services. You can bring a concern to both without having to go to court.

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Well if this were just nobody off the street yes they should just call CPS. But I can tell you right now from experience child services would do absolutely nothing about this picture. And I can tell you right now from experience if your family law judge finds out that you're trying to circumvent HIS orders that Kate is allowed to Tweet by running to CPS, there will be hell to pay. The judge would ask him why in the sam hell he didn't come back to his open family law case if there were another twitter issue.

He needs to go to family law court, back to the same judge who doesn't believe in parental alienation or emotional abuse or any of that stuff, and he'd be absolutely nuts to do that without a lawyer given who Kate has hired. And all that will cost him thousands and at the end of the day get him nowhere. Who knows maybe he will give it a try anyway, but if he doesn't, I understand why.

Anonymous said...

Happy Rosh Hashanah
to all that are celebrating :o)

Peace-
Pink

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

By the way this is where I believe that Jon and Kate are not really amicable like she claims.

If that were the case Jon would just need to call her up and have a civil conversation about why he feels the pic should be taken down. There is no reason for it to remain up there. If Kate respected him and was serious about being amicable, she would stop being so stubborn and just comply with that for the sake of respecting Jon's wishes.

I don't buy that she's not the same exact nightmare to deal with when it comes to custody that she's always been.

TLC stinks said...

Admin, if Jon can prove that pedophiles are commenting on the kids (i.e. Mady's legs) could he then get a judge to restrict Kate on her Twitter pictures?

Are you saying your source said Jon tried before a judge to get Kate to shut down her Twitter?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Stephanie M., I would never allow comments about Kate's vagina or whatever you suggested. Alcohol comments were OFF LIMITS until Kate made an episode in which she drank herself silly all weekend and Jamie herself said she was drunk. And even then it's just some light hearted snark about boxed wine, no one calls her an alcoholic normally. As for calling Kate a pimp, I don't think anyone believes Kate is an actual pimp, it's used in the context of pimping her kids, which is just the truth. Just setting some facts straight. I just was pointing out you're getting all worked up that Jon has done nothing, and I pointed you to actual public examples (not just rumors or sources) of Jon trying to do something and failing, like trying to stop the Australia trip.

I think until you've dealt with a parental alienator in court or been involved in some way in a parental alienation case, you cannot truly understand how mentally, financially and emotionally draining it can be. To the point where you are so exhausted, that when you are with your kids, you are not really THERE, and that's not a good thing either.

And what good does it do to blow all your money on attorneys trying to stop something that is perfectly legally only to have Kate complain that you don't support your kids? Well yeah because you blew all your money trying to stop her shenanigans. A true catch 22. In a creepy way, maybe Kate wants to create situations where he's blowing all his money on his attorneys, then she can complain he's not supporting his kids properly.

It has to be understood that there is no law that will stop Kate from doing what she is doing. It's shoddy parenting for sure, but the courts don't touch shoddy parenting.

Anonymous said...

JoyinVirginia said... 152
I an trying to process two very different events in my non virtual life.
My mother has been in hospice care for six months, after many mini strokes. She has been in an excellent nursing home for some years and I manage her affairs and go visit every few weeks. She is happily demented and living in her youth in her mind most of the time. the hospice nurse called me last week, mom is so much better she is no longer qualified to receive hospice care! Its like that Monty Python sketch. ”Bring out your dead!” Guy brings out his mother in law. ”I'm not dead yet!
Meanwhile, a person I knew in real life, acquaintance for quite a few years, nice guy, good mechanic, friendly with neighbors, never on trouble with the law... He and his girlfriend are dead, victims of a murder suicide, but news reports are not clear on who did the shooting. These were people in their late 40s or early 50s.
Why is one person expected to die now doing great, while a couple of average people with no obvious history of problems now dead?
I know there is no answer. Things just
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Joy,
What to say to your post- wow, your head must be spinning. I wish you the best in getting through all this. Sometimes, there are no answers. I lost a dear friend this summer, early 40's, passed in his sleep. No apparent reason, just never woke up. I understand having questions that may not be answered. It's difficult. Take your time. Get help if you need it (they always tell us that in the military- sorry, I just felt I should say it). If you want to share your thoughts here, you know we will gladly listen (read?) :)
And if you take time away, well, you know you wont miss much in Gosselinland- but don't be a stranger!

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, I was hoping that Jon ( and maybe he did) would at least express a strong opinion to Kate as well as talk to Mady if they are amicable. I hope Jon agrees with our opinion of the photo and potential as evidenced by the unsavory comments on various sites.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Uh huh. I had lunch with Oprah the other day, too. Can I prove it? Nope. Are you gullible enough to believe it? Maybe.

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lol! Really? Is there anything new on the horizon for her? Jon is local. He's not an out-of-reach national celebrity. He's a down-to-earth guy who is easily accessible to know, or heck, even have lunch with. He's had kids in the same school community for six years. His wife grew up in the area. The couple lived in the county until they moved to the next one over.

If you believe he's a piece of whatever, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I do have a difficult time understanding, however, why someone who doesn't know exactly how much he has done to protect his kids would claim that he is doing nothing. It may look like it from someone on the outside looking in, but really, so much goes on behind the scenes that isn't public knowledge because of confidentiality in the court system.

Dmasy -- he knows about the support from so many, but repeating it never hurts.

Duped -- who hinted that he was not at Parent's Night? I thought I saw only one comment, and nothing was said about Jon, only the fact that Kate tweeted from home during the hours that Parent's Night took place.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

TLC, how would Jon go about proving someone is a pedophile? The cops have to subpoena computers to get that kind of info into evidence.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Likely, a judge would look at this photo and not see anything but a lapse in judgement and disagreement between parents that could have been settled by the two talking it out rather than wasting his/her time in court.

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I agree completely. If I had to predict how the judges I know would react, this would be it:

"Dad and Mom, you two need to work out your differences if you're ever going to be able to parent these children successfully without running to me every time. Mom, you shouldn't be posting pictures like this on the internet without running it by Dad, and Dad, you need to figure out a more productive way to compromise with Mom about things like this instead of clogging my court's calendar and wasting your time and money. You both need to get some common sense here. Motion is dismissed, now go be better parents and don't waste my time with this again."

That's exactly how it would go.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Thoughts and prayers for the surgery people! Better days ahead! Be well.

A little Rumspringa goes a long way in making the pain subside. I find it increasingly difficult to pass by the brewery without going inside! Wish I could bring you some of the real thing!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
RT @The_Stir Agree? Kate Gosselin Can Post a Photo of Her Daughter in Heels if She Wants to http://thestir.cafemom.com/big_kid/143551/kate_gosselin_can_post_a?t … @Kateplusmy8 AGREE!:) THX!
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“@The_Stir: Kate Gosselin Can Post a Photo of Her Daughter in Heels if She Wants to http://thestir.cafemom.com/big_kid/143551/kate_gosselin_can_post_a?t … @Kateplusmy8”FANTASTIC article
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Sure Kate can post a photo of Maddy in heels.

But it doesn't make it right or it doesn't mean that she should do it.

Improbable Dreams said...

LOL, Milo's not easing up on her demands for a picture of Shoka. #trustandverify

MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Kate...please post pic of Shoka in his "boxer shorts" so we can move 4ward! LOL

Oh,and I think this is rather interesting... Kate's newest approach to her controversial persona is something akin to "That was then, this is now."

@radiogrl43 aw xo thanks4giving the REAL me a chance..Tv is4ratings&drama sells..I DO have drama but was concentrated on tv + I've grown up2

Formerly Duped said...

Parent:

I honestly forget who it was and I don't want to guess. I would say best to forget what I surmised about J not attending PN, at it may be wrong. I think Jon likely does a lot we don't know about as he doesn't broadcast his every move or his kids, so I think he will do what he feels is best as a parent, who obviously is involved with & loves his kids. Being local you would know a lot more than any of us. Again, sorry if I spoke out of turn- I didn't say it was true, just what I gathered from the elusive post!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Nicole Fabian-Weber who wrote a blog in support of Kate needs to read Eve Vawter's blog explaining it, because Nicole too is missing the point:

"This is cute. It's her kid -- who's probably wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt -- wearing her shoes. I doubt she thought she was posting something "controversial" when she tweeted this. You may not agree with Kate's decision to put her children on reality TV, etc., but I honestly don't think she would do something that she thought would endanger her daughter."

That was Eve's entire point. You may be absolutely correct that it's cute, and you may sincerely believe there is nothing endangering about it. But you have to understand that you have no idea what the motivations are of everyone else who is seeing it.

I'm sure lots of parents think it's cute to let their kid take a nice long bike ride all by themselves through the woods, what a big girl they're getting to be, it's cute. But this is 2012, you can't do cute things like that anymore because of kidnapping fears. You have to think outside the box of "that's cute."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When you have the same judge and you keep beating on his door, he is going to get quite ticked off, and you end up doing your case more harm than good.

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A good attorney knows when to tell their client to lay low. Jon just got 50-50, he's gone more private again by taking down twitter, things are slowly, slowly becoming more favorable to him. The last thing he needs to do is stir the pot and get Kate all worked up and ticked off. She'll retaliate and it won't be pretty. And the judge will be very annoyed after just giving you what you wanted.

A good attorney would tell Jon I know man this stinks but just be patient things are going to end up in our favor if we stay the course here and not rock the boat.

"Lay low" and "don't rock the boat" should be phrases that every good attorney knows when to use.

Bluebird said...

Oh well, here she goes, BUSY, BUSY, BUSY. Get a job if you want to know how busy feels. I can't help thinking that she went to the school this morning to do damage control regarding the picture of Mady. I'm not saying she admits she was wrong to publish that photo as narcissists never admit to wrongdoing. She couldn't imagine that she would be receiving so many negative comments and she surely read that Mady would be teased and bullied in school.

Kate is slowly digging her grave, and one day she will do something so utterly stupid that she will fall in and become a nobody. Something that even the sheeple will not be able to cover up.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Likely, a judge would look at this photo and not see anything but a lapse in judgement and disagreement between parents that could have been settled by the two talking it out rather than wasting his/her time in court.

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admin -- yes, I think you're right. It would probably go just like that. Don't you think, though, that this time it is much more serious than a mom who allows her daughter a later curfew than the dad would permit? This really isn't a frivolous thing, but rather a very bad error in judgment that may continue unless stopped. She didn't see anything wrong with it, and even mocked it to her tweeties (the sneakers comment).

Twitter has become an obsession for her, and posting photos is a big part of it. There is nothing, legally, in place that would prevent her from doing whatever she darn well chooses to do as far as continuing to splash their photos everywhere and at any time.

OT -- is anyone watching "Breaking Amish?" Thoughts?

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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 111
Tamara good luck tomorrow I'm sure it will be fine. Can I recommend Marie Calendar's pot pies to get you back on the mend? I've had to go under a few times lately and I always stock up on those even though I don't eat them normally--they are nice and warm and nutritious, but not anything wild and crazy, easy to make if no one is around to help (just throw in the oven) and good for recovery.
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OT for just a moment because the talk about Marie Calendar's made me laugh. I was telling my fiancee that while he was in CA he had to go to Marie Calendar and bring me back a pie, it had been so long since I have had one and he said "Marie Calendars is a Restaurant??" LOL!! I said "Yep, I have been eating there for over 20 years- since BEFORE the frozen food"
Thought that was funny. He lives in VA.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Don't you think, though, that this time it is much more serious than a mom who allows her daughter a later curfew than the dad would permit? This really isn't a frivolous thing, but rather a very bad error in judgment that may continue unless stopped.

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No. I think the judge would see it as a parenting disagreement that wastes their time. Remember, judges don't get involved in telling shoddy parents how to parent. Judges are not supposed to legislate parenting styles. What that means is that every day sub-par crappy parents are allowed to parent their children. The way judges see it, if they start getting involved in things like this, they might as well place half of America's children in foster care. Foster care is reserved for the truly horrible situations--drugs, beating kids to a pulp, sexual abuse. Everything else usually squeaks on by without issue.

Until people want to change the laws and make them say a parent can't do this, that's how it will remain. And then it becomes a question of do we really want laws that strict and intrusive. Because it cuts both ways.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

"Lay low" and "don't rock the boat" should be phrases that every good attorney knows when to use.

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Amen. Those dreaded words from an attorney! Sometimes, though, there are times when you not only want to rock the boat, you want to turn it upside down. Having patience is difficult, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

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