Saturday, July 7, 2012

Parental alienation may soon be classified as a mental health syndrome

The American Psychiatric Association is debating whether to include parental alienation as a mental health syndrome in its 2013 revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders




Much like last year, Kate, who said she didn't have the kids for the holiday, spent her July Fourth parental alienating Jon, and organizing her desk. (Last year, Kate accused Jon of not taking the kids to church even though she asked him to, while in the same breath admitting she slept in that Sunday, and also retweeted a fan's tweet that "Jon ruined that family but she healed it," and thanked her.) One of her most disturbing and alienating tweets, tweeted on July 4 in the evening (in response to someone remarking how she was happy the kids were with Jon), is this one:


"me too. The fact that he asked, always is worth my loneliness.I'm happy for them even if it's somehow hard for both me&kids"


Perhaps Kate's behavior, and the behavior of other parents like her who hate their ex's more than they love their children, will soon be recognized for what it is, a mental health problem. 


Thanks to Kate's own Reading Eagle for keeping this important topic in the news.



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Improbable Dreams said...

Good topic, Admin, and worth exploring from every angle.

I think many of us are feeling really queasy about the word games she's playing, at the ultimate expense of the kids. But on the other hand, some of her most ardent supporters are giving her a helping hand:

@XXXXXXX @Kateplusmy8 {{{Hugs}}} Can't imagine how hard it is 2deal with this,even tho there are some good aspects.May your home be noisy again soon

AuntieAnn said...

What is it going to take to get Kate to come to the realization that there is something terribly wrong with her behavior. If she wants "the best" for her kids she needs to get help. Someone needs to slap some sense into her and it looks like it might take a judge to do it. Those kids have enough problems without the added guilt of thinking it's not right to love their their father because their mother thinks she's been wronged.

Bubbles said...

Parents shouldn't talk badly about their child's other parent. However, I have never, even as a child, thought of myself as "half" my mother or father. Have any of you thought of yourselves that way? If I had, I would have had major problems, because my dad had a bad temper and I was scared of him/felt like I bated him for most of my childhood.

Working Woman said...

Thank for highlighting such a prominent topic, and something that observers often struggle to understand.

Let's take a look at Kate and the way she always talks about Jon (making it appear as though the kids do not enjoy being with him and it is "hard" for them to do so). Does she not want to think that her children are enjoying themselves, happy, and taken care of, even when they are away from her? Does she not feel that her co-parent deserves credit and appreciation for taking care of her children and giving them love and affection when she is unable to?

These questions are rhetorical, of course. I am aware that Kate does not think like many other people would.

Bubbles said...

That should say "hated " not bated.

Winsomeone said...

gff

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Bubbles I don't think all kids think of themselves as half their parents and I don't think all kids internalize parental alienation or a bad parent the same. But it is very common to think half of you is them for better or worse which is why parental alienation becomes so psychologically damaging and personal to kids. Otherwise it's just some guy their mom hates, who cares. A good example is that woman who killed her kid, Diane Downs. Her last child who was born in prison was adopted and later found out who she was. She's talked a lot in interviews about how half of her is a murderer and her struggles with that. In my case since I was blessed to have a good childhood, when I see things about me that are like my mom or dad, I do think that must have come from them. So it can be a good thing too. But anyway I don't think all kids react the same, I just think it's common.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

And to add to that Working Woman, every time Kate casts doubt on the children's happiness with Daddy it undermines his visit with them. Jon doesn't just have a right to his children, it's more than that, he and all fathers and parents have a right to a happy, peaceful visit without the other parent setting it up as something negative.

Think about it in basic terms. If you tell a kid who is about to get on a roller coaster, it's going to be so scary you might fall out and die your heart will be in your throat you won't make it, chances are you're going to freak the kid out and they won't do well. But if you give them positive words like it will be fun and thrilling and you'll love it, that sometimes helps a kid have a better experience with things that they are uncertain about.

It's the same with the people in their lives like their dad. If you set it up like it's "hard" to see Dad and you'll be calling me all the time and who knows if he'll take good care of you and you have way more fun with me, that just encourages the visit to go badly. Oh, and is super f-ed up too.

Winsomeone said...

Sorry about my last post, was just trying to sign into my google account so I could sign up to get the comments in my e-mail.

Working Woman said...

I agree that not all children think of themselves as half of their parents, although some do. It is likely more than that, though. One of the reasons that parental alienation can be so damaging may be that, in the vast majority of cases, children love both of their parents. I would be heartbroken if I heard somebody speak negatively about somebody I truly love. Imagine a child's point of view, a mother who they love bashing their father who they also love and who they wish their mom still loved (or vise versa). I can see why that would be devestating.

Does everyone remember when someone called Kate out on her parental alienation on Twitter? Her response: something to the effect of, Oh if you knew what I knew you would be amazed at my restraint! So basically, defending her parental alienation with more alienation?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Bubbles I also think in your case there were some good reasons to have a negative view of your father. In this case and in many parental alienation cases, there really is no good reason the children should hate or dislike Jon. Of course he's not perfect as no father is, but he's not abusive or anything that would cause you to have a legitimate reason to have ill feelings toward your father. In parental alienation often there is absolutely no reason a child should have a negative view of their parent other than the other parent desperately trying to warp and twist their minds against them. This is the worst kind, because you're truly lying to a child even if you don't know you're doing it.

However it also occurs when the other parent is legitimately bad, and it's still not a good thing in those cases either. The other parent should never be responsible for dictating how a child feels about their parent. That is up to the child.

Carezee said...

Mel... I feel the same way you do. I watched to see this young family and how they struggled to take care of their little ones. I didn't know everything was being paid for. Then I got thinking about all the places they went to and things they had and wondered how can they afford them with all those kids. My husband and I both work and we only have two kids and could never afford to go all those places. That is when I started hitting the internet to find out what they really were about. I found GWOP and eventually this sight. I never watched the show again when I found out what was really going on. I was disappointed that reality wasn't really reality.

Silver haired babe said...

Does anyone else remember that after the "wedding" ceremony, Kate asked Jon what he liked best about her vows and he replied that he liked the scripture. She said that she did NOT put any scripture in them. I thought it was funny that TLC put that in there as it was obvious that he did not listen to her vows.
My worst memory of Kate is when she dragged the vacuum cleaner over the rocks in the RV episode. I kept waiting for her to pick it up and carry it.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Kate's behavior, and the behavior of other parents like her who hate their ex's more than they love their children, will soon be recognized for what it is, a mental health problem.

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Parental alienation syndrome is something you use as a legal tactic when it bolsters your case. You are not a mental health professional and therefore are not qualified to determine what is and is not a mental health disorder, any more than an MFT is qualified to practice law.

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said...

I'm so sick of her bullshit saying that she is lonely when the kids aren't there. Let me tell you this. We have two kids. When they were little, my husband and I LOVED it when someone took them for a weekend. We slept in, farted around the house, had some relaxing drinks on the deck without being pestered by the kids. Of course we missed them but saying we were lonely? Nope. We loved the break. Kate is such a drama queen. All in the name of damage control and protecting her 'image' of being the supermom extrordinaire. She is incapable of giving any credit to Jon for anything. Frankly, it makes me sick how she continues to try and snow her fans with crap like this.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Parental alienation syndrome is something you use as a legal tactic when it bolsters your case.

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It may be used to help a case but so are other mental illnesses, it does not mean they are not real. It is what many professionals believe is real disorder, well documented by professionals, that is so well recognized that even the APA is taking notice. I simply agree with what I have read. I know some people don't believe it exists. I've seen enough of it to know that it does.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Admin, I agree with you 100% that parental alienation does in exist. I witnessed it first hand with my mother after my parents divorced. My 2 sisters, who were very young at the time, were emotionally and phsycologically (sp?) damaged by it.

Due to my personal experience with it, it's very sad to see this happen and it's certain the children will be affected because of it.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Kate cannot share anything with anyone. Thus, the snark towards Jon. She sees everything as "mine, all mine." When she said it, she meant it. That includes personal property (Kids) and physical property (Land). She also doesn't want to give any credit to anyone besides herself. Didn't want TLC paying anyone else (Jodi). She doesn't share well. She is a classic example of someone who cannot share compliments about anyone else because she sees it as taking away from the praise she needs. Very needy, shallow person. Sad for her kids and Jon. Thank goodness he has moved on. The kids will, too, someday.

Kate is a twit said...

I just took a look at who Kate follows on twitter. Out of the last 4 people she followed, one is CC and the other is Deanna Bell(who she just added). If Deanna was such a good friend, why did it take Kate so long to follow her? Could be that since Deanna has a private twitter account now, that Kate needs to see how Deanna is defending her.

I wonder if Kate will wish her #1 fan Paige a Happy Birthday today?

Dwindle said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 17
Kate cannot share anything with anyone. Thus, the snark towards Jon. She sees everything as "mine, all mine." When she said it, she meant it.
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You are exactly right. Remember when she was so publicly pissed off that Jon could have a legal say in their upbringing? 'Someone who only sees them 4 days a month...'? She was stunned, shocked, that she didnt win it all. She thought she would restrict his time with the kids and then claim he forfeited any rights to input on the kids. She couldnt BELIEVE the courts see him as their parent! She honestly ummm honestly assumed those eight commodities were hers to do with as she pleased.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate messed with the one thing in the law that is almost impossible to tamper with, parental rights. Even men in jail or deported don't usually lose rights to their kids. No means no, Kate, finally.

Dwindle said...

My parents were divorced. And my mother bashed my father and restricted his visits with us. And every time she did or said something, I felt really bad, really guilty, really disgusting. I will try to dwell on this and put it into better words but it might take me a while.

I also felt so humiliated when she said things in front of others. The shame and humiliation was horrible.

Now I gotta think about this...

Later, y'all.

Julianna said...

kateplusmy8
Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..

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What in the heck is she talking about? She has totally lost it.

KAT said...

Oh no...She going down episode (memory) lane again. You know she brought it up....not the kids...She had better stop living in the past...it's over Kate. OVER!!!!!!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

kateplusmy8
Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..

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What in the heck is she talking about? She has totally lost it.

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Two years later she's still trying to convince us the kids wanted to stay at the camp site.

I believe the kids who said they wanted to stay. And the Palins. The kids had a great time and didn't want to leave. Kate you're a liar.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said...I wonder if Kate will wish her #1 fan Paige a Happy Birthday today?
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I just checked Paige's profile page. She's removed the Kate pictures and has a huge picture of Justin Beiber instead. That's odd.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

My gosh, that woman is such a liar! It's on tape for all to see that the kids did not want to leave the campsite, they wanted to stay; she wanted to leave.

If she really does continually watch the old episodes as she says she does, I think that is what results in these bizarre tweets. She sees an epi that makes her look bad and so she tweets about the kids' talking about it and loving the decision that SHE made.

Those kids looked miserable in Alaska EXCEPT when they went camping with the Palins. Again, Kate is trying to rewrite history.

Kate is a twit said...

Sounds like Kate is doing "damage control" on episodes that may just be airing now in other countries. I've noticed that she now has fans from South Africa who stated they are just seeing the episodes.

And yet again, she's putting words into her children's mouths.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Also, I think it's unhealthy for Kate to keep playing the episodes for the kids. It's almost as if she is trying reinforce to them that need to be on TV again to do all of those things. She needs to get them involved in activities so they can create new memories instead of always making them relive the past.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The fact that she's STILL talking about this two years later just tells me what a liar she is. If she weren't lying and was fully confident the kids wanted to leave, she would have no need to constantly bring it up. Why keep bringing it up? You know what happened and you know your kids were given what they wanted, so stop talking about it. She keeps bringing it up because she's so insecure in all her lies.

Kate is a twit said...

Why do I get the feeling that Kate was so upset hearing that the kids "had a blast" on July 4th that she is now replaying the DVDs of the show to show the kids what a good time they had with mommy?

Julianna said...

admin (22): Two years later she's still trying to convince us the kids wanted to stay at the camp site.

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Did this just appear "out of the blue?" Why bring it up today? First tweet of the day is this...why? And why tweet about what the kids are saying about the Alaska fiasco?

It's a little too late for damage control...plus, who cares? She has so much damage control to do that it would take years (and a book) to do it!

GetLuckyInKentucky said...

I'll give her this.. She isn't that smart..but, she sure is stupid

GetLuckyInKentucky said...

And I doubt they are even talking about the trip in fear of some sort of smart ass comment from mom.

Julianna said...

This episode was one that showed Kate at her worst. Wouldn't you think that she would want to sweep this under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist? She has no defense for how she acted. It's all there on film, and now she's gone and resurrected it for dissection on Twitter.

JudyK said...

Yes, just read the lie about the kids not wanting to camp out...Kate's talking about herself, not her kids, and, as usual, she's an absolute LIAR.

I'm not a patient person; this week has been incredibly stressful for me; I can't stand liars; and reading the tripe she's tweeting just puts my panties in a wad.

Kate, you are a mental, lying sack of dog and chicken poo.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Thank God for Sarah and Chuck who could tell the truth. The kids loved it. I love how TLC gave them equal airtime to explain what was REALLY going on.

Plus even without them saying anything we could all see the kids have a blast. Fishing, grilling moose dogs, making a map out of rocks, exploring the environment. They were having a blast. We are not blind, stupid or gullible, Kate. Stop insulting us.

Anonymous said...

I don't get it either. She is suggesting they were sleeping in the warm cabin instead of (sleeping) in the cold rain. I didn't see the show; were they actually sleeping 'outside' in the rain at some point?

bm

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

No they slept in perfectly decent tents, and it stopped raining anyway as soon as Kate left, the sky cleared. So they wouldn't have slept in the rain at all.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

And you know what maybe the kids ARE saying they had a great time in the cabin. Because they're not stupid and know how much Kate needs validation and will say whatever they need to stay to calm her down and keep her happy. We know how they really felt and so did the Palins, but that doesn't mean they don't say what they need to to help keep Kate stable.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I also remember someone from the area telling us it's really a lodge resort they stayed in. Not exactly a "cabin."

Not to mention the lies, way to be ungrateful about the Palins who were so kind and generous to include them in their family camping trip. It was rude to leave. It's one night. If a presidential candidate invites you camping for one night, stick it out.

mama mia said...

Many times Jon has said Kate is a good mother and I think that is a reflection of how lazy he is. Kate is not a good mother. She exudes zero warmth or empathy and the way she puts her children on display constantly shows how indifferent she is about their welfare. I remember the first time I saw the show, home with the flu, channel surfing, and I came across a 24 hour marathon of episodes, it was back to back child abuse as far as I was concerned. The children were being dragged and hauled by their armpits and made to endure all kinds of stupid selfish rules beyond their age and capabilities. Like who seriously expects 3 year olds not to get their clothes wet or dirty? They were constantly screaming and wanting to be held or picked up and not once did I see a soft sweet cuddle or a bedtime routine or anything that left me thinking these children were loved by their parents. They were just put out there for entertainment value. Neither parent has done well by these children.

Michelle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 29
The fact that she's STILL talking about this two years later just tells me what a liar she is. If she weren't lying and was fully confident the kids wanted to leave, she would have no need to constantly bring it up. Why keep bringing it up? You know what happened and you know your kids were given what they wanted, so stop talking about it. She keeps bringing it up because she's so insecure in all her lies.
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Pegged her again, admin. The tups had just turned six for this trip. Their only memories will be what they see on the DVD which is clearly mommy ruining the fun. She has to convince them otherwise.

And do these kids really enjoy watching all these Kate Plus 8 episodes? My boys have NEVER asked to watch our home videos.

PatK said...

She doesn't tweet for a day or so, and the Alaska trip is what she tweets about? Oh, my.

meagler said...

They are talking about the memory of sleeping in the warm cabin vs the cold rain, because THAT IS THE MEMORY Kate!!! You gave them no other memory for them to talk about! My kids talk about the time we camped in the rain for 3 days, and how the first day was fun, the second day..so so... and the third day... we all wanted out of there and did leave... but they talk about that because it was a memory!!!

Kate ... even the un-fun stuff becomes fond memories... IF you allow them to happen! and key word.. attitude!! Its all in the attitude...during and after!

Cruisin As Fast As She Can Now said...

If a presidential candidate invites you camping for one night, stick it out.

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Of course you stick it out, even if you have to pee in a bucket, you slop around in mud, or a moose slobbers in your face. I think, though, that Kate thought she was more famous than a vice-presidential candidate and former governor, and entitled to so much more than Sarah Palin could offer her. Kate is for Kate. She still hasn't learned about burning bridges.

There's a Garth Brooks song that reminds me so much of Kate...

Burning bridges one by one
What I'm doin' can't be undone
And I'm always hoping someday
I'm gonna stop this runnin' around
But every time the chance comes up
Another bridge goes down
Like ashes on the water
I drift away in sorrow
Knowing that the day
My lesson's finally learned
I'll be standing at a river
Staring out across tomorrow
And the bridge I need to get there
Will be a bridge that I have burned

Michelle said...

Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..
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"I'm just listening" - yeah, right! When in all of those years of episodes did we ever see Kate "just listening". She's incapable.

I haven't seen the Alaska episode since it aired, but can still picture her nasty, sneering expression as she said to little Piper "you like this, this is fun for you". She looked exactly like a snotty 13 year old mean girl.

Or the look when the kids handed her her moose dog. Usually it's the parent convincing the kids to try something new. In this case, it's the kids saying "it's good, try it" as she sneered at the food.
She's one wackadoo!

wayward said...

I came across this last night on HuffPost, it's an anonymous post from a confessional blog. Someone has taken these posts and wrote a book about them.

This person sums up exactly, what we as a whole have been saying for the last 4 years. She put money and success before her children and wishes now she could have a do-over.

"If I had a second chance, I would have quit my job when my children were born. I would have not made so many excuses to say, 'I have to work.' Because they were mostly lies. Lies told, because honestly, the weeks I did spend at home scared me to death. It was easier to hire someone to mother them, and pay her to do my job.

I would have not made excuses for only nursing my babies for a few months. I would have told my husband and my friends and my mother-in-law that I would raise my children. The heck with what they 'wanted' or 'expected' or thought I should do. My mother-in-law, although very nasty about the fact that I 'worked,' was more than happy to take my kids on weekends, when I was more than happy to be 'so tired' to raise them myself. My husband and I broke up anyway, as our lives diverged, and without family time to hold us together, we were just spending money, and making excuses for not being with our children.

But I was too obsessed with 'my life' and how I thought I was supposed to live it. Make money, have fun, be everything to all people, except those who really should mean the most to me. I was selfish, and self-absorbed. I wish I could go back and make the difference when it counts.

Now my children have no time for me. At first I was angry, but I understand. I always made excuses as to why I never had time for them. Or took them on a few errands and told people we were taking quality time. All BS. It was about me then.

Now it's too late. They have their own lives, and as my ex and I 'worked' all the time, our children learned to get comfort elsewhere. They expect us to pay for school, which we are doing, and to lend them money, which we do, but it is an artifact of our poor self-absorbed parenting that we feel we have to give them things and money, instead of giving them our time, when we had the chance.

I wish I could change the past. I'd have my children, say the heck with the huge house, and the big screen TV, and the new car every few years, and the vacations, the expensive food, the eating out, the business suits I thought I 'needed,' the radical shoes, the thought that I 'needed' lunch out every day, and the cost of day care. None of which was necessary. I would stop all the excuses, say 'NO' to spending money on anything but the essentials, forget the BS that I 'deserved' what I earned for myself, and spend my time at home and being with my children.

Now, their only concerns are what my ex and I can do for them. And, I realize they do this because we bought what we thought was love for too long. I hope they can be there for their children, but I am afraid the pattern will continue.

So, as we move forward, we continue to open the checkbook instead of our hearts."
- Anonymous

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-hansen/confessions-of-a-divorced_b_1631504.html

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

(Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening.. about an hour ago)

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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 29

The fact that she's STILL talking about this two years later just tells me what a liar she is. If she weren't lying and was fully confident the kids wanted to leave, she would have no need to constantly bring it up. Why keep bringing it up? You know what happened and you know your kids were given what they wanted, so stop talking about it. She keeps bringing it up because she's so insecure in all her lies.


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Oh brother [rolling eyes].

She's a piece of work.

Let it go, Kate.
Face it, the damage is done.
Stop re-living the episodes.

You know damn well your kids were having a fun time. They only left the camping area because of YOU- you embarrassing, whiney, selfish, big baby.

Stop being poisonous to your family.

GROW UP.

Luke's Mom said...

I really don't understand twitter. Can anyone explain why the time stamps on Kate's tweet (spinning the truth on the Alaska trip) are 3 hours apart?

When I go to twitter/search and look up Kateplusmy8, I can see all the tweets from everyone referencing @kateplusmy8. So I see all the back and forth tweets from fans, nonfans, and Kate. On this feed, Kate's Alaska tweet looks like this:

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..
2:44 PM - 7 Jul 12via Twitterrific • Details

BUT if you go to Kate's twitter feed where you ONLY see Kate's tweets, this is what I see:

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..
11:44 AM- 7 Jul 12via Twitterrific • Details

The times are 3 hours apart. Now I am on EST time which Kate should also be on IF she was in PA today.

If anyone can explain the 3 hour difference, please help. Does this mean Kate could be on the West coast today?

Katie Kuerig said...

Oh my gosh, Kate, really??? Seriously, you expect a rational human being to believe that idiot email about Alaska? Remember the kiddie tune "liar, liar, pants on fire"? That's you. As you read here to see what we all have to say about your latest twitter lie, I just wonder if your brain even connects to your mouth. Do you never think before you speak? I guess not , because we only have videotape PROOF of what was said and how you threatened your kids with not being Gosselins if they chose to stay and not go with you. You were browbeating them, your own children on TV, we saw it. Got that? We saw it. You are the biggest freakshow out there. I cannot imagine what it must be like to live inside the little brain that you have. Disgusting beyond words. Someday those little guys will be old enough to stand up to you. In the meantime, thank God for Jon to give them a good life while he has them.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Oh my gosh, Kate, really??? Seriously, you expect a rational human being to believe that idiot email about Alaska? Remember the kiddie tune "liar, liar, pants on fire"? That's you. As you read here to see what we all have to say about your latest twitter lie, I just wonder if your brain even connects to your mouth. Do you never think before you speak? I guess not , because we only have videotape PROOF of what was said and how you threatened your kids with not being Gosselins if they chose to stay and not go with you. You were browbeating them, your own children on TV, we saw it. Got that? We saw it. You are the biggest freakshow out there. I cannot imagine what it must be like to live inside the little brain that you have. Disgusting beyond words. Someday those little guys will be old enough to stand up to you. In the meantime, thank God for Jon to give them a good life while he has them.

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Amen. I know what I saw. And what I saw was backed up by Sarah and her dad. Is she calling Sarah Palin and Chuck Palin liars?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Had Kate been completely positive on the camping trip and encouraged the kids, and then they left, their might be more dispute over what exactly happened. But Kate started the ball rolling from the moment she stepped off the plane and rolled it all the way down the hill setting it up to leave. It's all on film. She has no credibility.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Hi Kate. Here's what really happened on your Alaska trip:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/12/recap-kate-spits-up-that-alaska.html

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The little kids were so young when this happened it's likely they don't even remember anything but bits and pieces of it. A bit and piece of a memory in the lodge with Kate, a bit and piece of hanging out with Sarah Palin, and that's it. They were too young to really remember such fine details like they were cold, it was rainy, they got dry. It's extremely unlikely that even if it DID happen this way, they remember they were cold and rainy, asked Kate to go back and stay at the cabin, then stayed in the cabin and were nice and dry. No, this is how an adult would remember it. Not a 6 year old.

Kate, please read a child psychology textbook before trying to tell us how kids think.

KAT said...

She's been on twitter less and less. I wonder if she's finally figured out this is doing nothing for her "career". Or perhaps waiting for something "positive" to happen. Maybe waiting for a T.V. show to drop out of the sky and into her lap. Let her go down memory lane, so she can realize what a jackass she's been.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Yes like the above poster said this sounds like Kate trying to rewrite history for the kids so that they think what they see on TV with the rest of us is not what really happened.

Hey Kate. Your kids are too smart for that.

AuntieAnn said...

Gee Kate be a man and suck it up. You coerced your kids into leaving the camp, it's all right there!

I have to admit I don't like camping but guess what...I went camping anyway. I'd get off work and help pack up the gear and away we'd go. My kids loved it, hubs loved it and since I'm pretty sure they didn't want me bitching and moaning and ruining their weekends I kept my trap shut and made the best of it. There's a lot of extra work involved as most moms know...you don't have all the conveniences you do at home, but you suck it up and do it for your family, plain and simple.

It's not like she would have had to do anything anyway. There was a whole slew of people there to do whatever needed to be done and she still had to f*ck it up for her kids.

AuntieAnn said...

The little kids were so young when this happened it's likely they don't even remember anything but bits and pieces of it.
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Not to mention the Alaska trip was wedged in there somewhere between working trips everywhere else. I'm sure their childhood is a blur. They got dragged places they'll only remember through watching themselves on dvds. All because their mother wanted to live like a movie star.

Luke's Mom said...

I agree with all the posters regarding Kate's spinning the truth on the Alaska trip.

We saw the truth on film. How in the world she thinks anyone would believe the Gkids were not enjoying the trip even in the rain?

Kate was speaking for herself as always. Kate only thought about herself during that trip. She was miserable so therefore her kids should be miserable. She did not want to camp so her kids did not want to camp.

So sad for the Gkids. Now Kate won't even allow them to have a happy memory of that day hanging out at the camp grounds with the Palin family. She is now stipping her children of their reality and replacing it with HER twisted truth.

Luckily, the Gkids can see the truth as it was filmed.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm not the biggest camper either, I love hiking and being outdoors but only as day trips. But that's not the point. Absolute worst case scenario if you really and truly cannot stick it out, she could have left the kids with Sarah Palin, her family, Steve and the nanny Sarah said they had. They would have been fine and happy to do it and the kids were behaving. I never understood why it was never discussed that the kids could stay without Kate.

It's not like she was contributing to watching the kids. She was off by herself sulking and whining to Steve and the crew.

AuntieAnn said...

Actually, if she would have left the camp by herself and let the kids stay, it would have been the best case scenario all around for everyone. She is the grinch who steals happiness, that's what she is.

And what's with this "I'm just listening" crap. Is that her way of saying told ya so to her kids?

TLC stinks said...

Tweet doesn't mean she is with the kids. Who knows where she is. Deceitful is her middle name.

She cannot rewrite what was filmed. She lives in a fantasy world.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

What's sad is she doesn't understand how much further she would get with her image if she just admitted she was a real buzzkill on that trip and ruined everything and that's she's sincerely sorry.

Luke's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 8

...every time Kate casts doubt on the children's happiness with Daddy it undermines his visit with them. ...setting it up as something negative.

...If you tell a kid who is about to get on a roller coaster, it's going to be so scary you might fall out ..chances are you're going to freak the kid out and they won't do well. But if you give them positive words like it will be fun and thrilling and you'll love it, that sometimes helps a kid have a better experience with things that they are uncertain about.

It's the same with the people in their lives like their dad. If you set it up like it's "hard" to see Dad and you'll be calling me all the time and who knows if he'll take good care of you and you have way more fun with me, that just encourages the visit to go badly. .

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What Kate did during the Alaska trip is just like what Admin posted about what Kate does when the kids spend time with Jon.

Kate continues to talk badly about Jon in every media form she can - twitter, tv, interviews, articles. She tries to project her own feelings abut Jon on to the kids. So wrong!

And we all saw her ON FILM do the same thing ON FILM during the Alaska trip. Kate was miserable on that trip not the Gkids.

Kate can NOT even find it in herself to talk positively about the Alaska camping trip - not as it was happening and now not even years later.

Very sad for the Gkids to have Kate putting her own anger, fears, insecurities, and unhappiness on to them. Kate shows no signs of a Mom who loves UNselfishly and encourages her kids to experience life (and Jon) with excitement, wonder, gratitude, and "positivity".

(I put that one in quotes for Kate since she doesn't seem to know the meaning eventhough she keeps tweeting about it)

LoveMyGrandsons said...

It's corn on the cob time? I didn't know there was a special time you could only eat corn on the cob. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.

Also, only 6 corn eaters there? Where's the other 2? I take it Kate won't eat corn on the cob because she's afraid her veneers would break! Lol!

Anonymous said...

Recent pic of kids eating corn on the cob, but nothing else on plate? Kate's saving $$$$ on food bill if thats all she feeds her kids; 1 ear of corn??? are you kidding?

Improbable Dreams said...

Re the corn on the cob photo (Twitter). I'm a little bit creeped out. Not by the subject matter, but the fact that even their private family dinners are staged.

Note the number of placemats vs plates, and the number of kids without chairs. Line 'em up, Kate! Make sure they're all smiling!

Again with the posing for complete strangers...Seriously, what's the point?

anger issues kate said...

Well, I don't think the kids are even home yet. And I think Kate is watching the Alaska episode by herself. With this heat, I don't think any kid would be talking about Alaska, they would be talkin pool. Kate is making this up. Remember what everyone here has been saying: when the kids are not home: Kate tweets her head off, when kids are not home, she tweets 1-2 tweets or nothing, goes on MIA silence. Here the run down on how many tweets since: Jun 29th till now:

Jun 29th:4
jun 30: 1
july 1: 3
july 2: 6
july 3: 4
july 4: 5
july 5: 4
july 6: 1
july 7: 2 tweets so far today. 30 tweets for 9 days. how sad. boohoo!

What the matter Kate, nothing to talk about?

anger issues kate said...

Oh, yeah: Kate just posted a pic of the the 6 pak eatting corn on the cob. So where are the twins?

Dwindle said...

Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening.. about 2 hours ago
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Ha! Yourself, Kate. you are lying as always.HA! HA!

"Kids are talking..." Kids, Kate? How many 'kids'? ONE? 'Talking' Kate? You mean watching an episode? And is that child doing it NOW or in the recent past?

"...fond memories..."? Fond? Save it for the thesaurus. Memories, yeah; one kid is having a memory.

"...'sleeping in that warm log cabin...", yeah sleeping in a cabin. Warm? - OK. The one child remembers it as warm because you have TOLD them over and over that it was warm and YOU were cold. "LOG" cabin? Way to go to make it tug at the sheeple heartstrings.

"...instead of in the cold rain'..." No. Now you are lying. Does the child remember the drizzle? Probably. But why have you convinced child A that they and the siblings you have made child A feel responsible for, would have all been lying in the rain all night? Why didnt you point out the nice tents that Organized Mother Of The Year provided? The lovely campfire that you would have LOVINGLY kept roaring all night to keep your children warm?

"...I'm just listening...". The word 'just' implies that you have shut your shrieking trap during some big sibling theraputic moment. BULLSHIT. You were quiet for 10 seconds nodding in approval because one or two kids have towed the BITCHMOTHER line and are starting to substitute reality with the way you need things to be.

This whole tweet is BS. Coming up next: "kids are happily recalling all the pizza slices passed around without tinfoil." "Kids having happy memories of disimpacting Colin on national TV while mommy leafed through a furniture brochure". "All kids in agreenacyishness that Leah needed to have her dress lifted up to be hit for tweeting her whistle when she was 4 years old, she LOOKED guilty". "Kids having a play, filmed and directed by Mady, of the loves and life of the Red Mixing Spoon. They are so THANKFUL."

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Ugh, do you think the kids know that she only lines them up for photos for blog fodder? Also Kate if you love your children so much please get a real camera. All they'll have when they are older are fuzzy memories.

Dmasy said...

The relative merits of sleeping arrangements -- yeah sure, just what every kid talks about when rehashing memories of an Alaskan journey.

No, Kate. You can't convince me.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm guessing the other two are getting old enough to realize they're just blog fodder and refusing to post for her stupid crappy pictures with red eye and fuzzy focus.

Moose Mania said...

I have to admit I don't like camping but guess what...I went camping anyway. I'd get off work and help pack up the gear and away we'd go. My kids loved it, hubs loved it and since I'm pretty sure they didn't want me bitching and moaning and ruining their weekends I kept my trap shut and made the best of it.

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Same here. I don't like fishing, quite possibly because I can't watch a fish dying, gasping for its last breath. The family wanted to go on a fishing trip and of course, family included me. So, we went. I didn't fish, but sat on the dock watching a gorgeous sunset on the bay, enjoying nature all around me, talking to other people and their families, and I found something positive in it. We had a great trip that year, just everyone being together.

What's sad about the whole Alaska experience is that Kate missed a great opportunity to teach the kids that not everything in life goes exactly as we want it. There are times when you simply do what you don't always want to do because there are other people involved. You make sacrifices for the sake of others. Instead, she stomped off in a huff and showed the kids that she's a whiner and a spoiled brat, that everything involves around her, and that she always comes first and gets her way. What is that teaching her children?

I wouldn't have eaten the moose hotdog. I would have been afraid that it was a relative! :)

Why did Kate open up the whole Alaska thing? Why now? What prompted it?

Dwindle said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 26
Kate is a twit said...I wonder if Kate will wish her #1 fan Paige a Happy Birthday today?
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I just checked Paige's profile page. She's removed the Kate pictures and has a huge picture of Justin Beiber instead. That's odd.
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Not at all odd. Childhood media crushes come and go. Little Paige stayed with Kate longer than usual because Kate tweeted a bazillion times more than a REAL celeb.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I think she also wants to prove she got them back from Jon as soon as she could and has them now. There's no proof that picture isn't from another day. Where's our daily weatherman, the doppler I see shows horrible rain in her area, not the best weather for grilling corn on the cob.

Anonymous said...

Recent pic from Kate showing kids eating corn-on-the-cob, but nothing else on plate? Is that all she feeds them? Kate running low on money so she saves by feeding kids meager meals? Children need more then on ear of corn for their dinner!

Moose Mania said...

What's sad is she doesn't understand how much further she would get with her image if she just admitted she was a real buzzkill on that trip and ruined everything and that's she's sincerely sorry.

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But, admin, in order to apologize and say that you're sorry you have to admit that you've done something wrong. She wouldn't acknowledge that because she thinks that everything she does is right.

Dwindle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 25

Two years later she's still trying to convince us the kids wanted to stay at the camp site.

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Sort of. Mostly she is trying to convince the kids. A simple majority will do, and likely not even the boys. As long as the girlskardashian can spout the GosselinTraditionalCompanyline as they become teens, as far as Kate thinks a judge will care.

Kate must be worried about kids wanting to go with Jon full time.

AuntieAnn said...

But, admin, in order to apologize and say that you're sorry you have to admit that you've done something wrong. She wouldn't acknowledge that because she thinks that everything she does is right.
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She wouldn't admit she was wrong if they had her in thumbscrews. Apologizing is taking responsiblity. Katie don't do dat.

Anonymous said...

Recent pic from Kate showing kids eating corn-on-the-cob, but nothing else on plate? Is that all she feeds them? Kate running low on money so she saves by feeding kids meager meals? Children need more then on ear of corn for their dinner!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I remember the sheeple saying they hate camping too. Hey guess what sheeple, so do some of us. There's two things I really hate about camping because I actually do like the outdoors. One is how dirty and smoky you get and there's usually no shower or at least not a nice hot one to feel better after a long day outside. The second is cooking. I love to cook but it's harder to do what you need to do with just a grill or open fire and not having all the tools and utensils you need and forgetting the salt and all that. Ugh. I can do smores in the back yard but a whole meal, no. But if it eight little faces wanted to stay I would.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Dwindle said...Not at all odd. Childhood media crushes come and go. Little Paige stayed with Kate longer than usual because Kate tweeted a bazillion times more than a REAL celeb.
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And now Kate is ignoring her, won't even wish her Happy Birthday even though Paige has told her several times! Even the "haters" are wishing her HB, but not Kate.

Over In Berks said...

Anon @77:

Recent pic from Kate showing kids eating corn-on-the-cob, but nothing else on plate? Is that all she feeds them? Kate running low on money so she saves by feeding kids meager meals? Children need more then on ear of corn for their dinner!

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Oops. I guess I'm guilty of that. In corn season, that's all we have, and sliced tomatoes on the side for those who like tomatoes. Iced tea, always iced tea. It's standard fare here. Eat as much as you want of the corn, though...amounts aren't limited to just one ear.

Yes, admin, we are having storms right now. Severe thunderstorm warning in effect. She doesn't say that she grilled the corn. She probably used the old boil in the pot method, which is how I often make the corn.

Made for TV said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 41

Not to mention the lies, way to be ungrateful about the Palins who were so kind and generous to include them in their family camping trip. It was rude to leave. It's one night. If a presidential candidate invites you camping for one night, stick it out.
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Kind and generous to include them? It was a TELEVISION SHOW. No kindness and generosity involved, merely cross-over promotion arranged by TLC. Nothing more, nothing less.

EM said...

kate would never leave her kids with the Palins. The would be exposed to normalcy.
Also..kate probably had to stay. Isnt it said that they cant not be filmed without a parent present? If kate left filming would have had to halt and she nor TLC would have allowed the money makers to have a day off work.

Over In Berks said...

Paige C ‏@Paige_Kate8fan
I just want Kate to wish me happy birthday :P

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All the begging from the tweetie sheeple still hasn't produced results. There's still time, though...

Betsy said...

Admin said:
What's sad is she doesn't understand how much further she would get with her image if she just admitted she was a real buzzkill on that trip and ruined everything and that's she's sincerely sorry.
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Completely agree. The American public is totally forgiving of celebrities (guess I have to call her that) who have screwed up. Look at Martha Stewart. The woman was jailed for several months, and after a year or two, people just sort of forgot about it and Martha continued her dynasty.

Now Kate is no Martha, we know. However, if she would simply lay low for several months then go on one of the talk shows and SINCERELY admit that she has made many mistakes (especially the relentless filming of her kids and her treatment of Jon) and she is truly sorry for her actions, publicly state that she is receiving therapy to address her issues, and assert her willingness to change, people would forgive her.

I truly believe this. I don't think it's too late, but she MUST commit to therapy. Is she capable of this? I don't see it happening, but it's not impossible.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I love grilled corn, stopped boiling it a long time ago. Grilled corn, a little butter, salt, parmesan cheese and chili pepper as you desire. But corn as a MEAL? We never ate corn just by itself nor did I ever see that in PA or the east coast, unless you're at the faire and getting it for a snack. With grilled chicken or a hamburger yes.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Betsy Martha is a great example of America's capacity to forget and move on. Robert Downey Jr. is another one. I'm sure I could think of others. If a celeb makes a sincere effort to turn things around and do well, America will forget their past and let them be superstars again.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Made for TV, I don't understand what you mean. Of course it was a cross promotion. The Palins still had to agree to it and host it. Regardless, you shouldn't be kind and generous to your hosts just because you're filming a cross promotion. It's okay to be rude because it's just "made for TV"? That's not what a good mom teachers her kids. Out here it gets you a lot further when you are kind and grateful to people on set. It gets you to the next project and next set, and so on. Get a reputation as rude and ungrateful on set and you won't see many more sets. See Kate. At the end of the day, people want to be happy at their jobs and not deal with divas, including if your job is a set job.

Working Woman said...

Suggestion for Kate: Live in the moment! Enjoy every second as it is happening.

Do not:

1. Pine for your PAST reality show and the free vacations that came along with it

2. Take pictures of your kids to put on twitter for the world to see when they are eating, playing, or doing homework (which, by the way, are things that just about every child in the world does, too).

Instead - appreciate your life for what it is now. Make the most of it. Learn to live happily without a camera crew following you around. Focus on what is going on in your children's lives now, instead of shoving old Kate Plus 8 episodes down their throats. And when your kids are having fun, join them! Talk to them, get to know them better. No need to reach for the camera every time.

SoCal Local said...

I mentioned on the beach thread that I have very happy memories of tent camping at Morro Bay in Northern CA with my grandparents. I do remember that it was pretty cold at night; actually I was freezing at times. But this, in no way, affected my enjoyment of the trips. These were the best and most memorable trips I ever had.

Kate thinks she has everyone fooled by saying her kids favored the warm cabin over the rainy campsite. She just doesn't get it, and never will. Kids DO NOT think the way Kate does. It's all on film as proof. They were smiling and having fun the entire time and stated clearly that they didn't want to leave. It was only when she threatened them with "You're not a Gosselin, then, you're a Palin" that one buckled. Then the rest followed suit and they left.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin said....
Much like last year, Kate, who said she didn't have the kids for the holiday, spent her July Fourth parental alienating Jon,
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Finally--a true Gosselin holiday tradition!

Ex Nurse said...

ShayShay-- Glad to hear that the Flying W is planning on rebuilding. If you hear of a way to contribute, please post it here.

Pity Party said...

Wow, talk about a posed picture. There is abolutely nothing else on their plates. Ice cream is dinner, guess corn is too. And she just doesn't get it? BS. Maybe they were conveniently talking about Alaska while KT pretended she wasn't listening, as she tweeted it, because they saw this coming.

Luke's Mom said...

EM said... 85
kate would never leave her kids with the Palins. The would be exposed to normalcy.
Also..kate probably had to stay. Isnt it said that they cant not be filmed without a parent present? If kate left filming would have had to halt and she nor TLC would have allowed the money makers to have a day off work.

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TLC filmed the kids who were left alone for days with just one nanny (Ashley) when Kate was in NYC for her birthday last year getting drunk and having her feet licked in a bar by strange men.

Ex Nurse said...

Working woman said...
Oh if you knew what I knew you would be amazed at my restraint! So basically, defending her parental alienation with more alienation?
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Great point, WW--glad so see you posting here. I have also shared about my recovery program for friends and families of addicts. Since your post about food disorders was relavent to the topic--not over sharing. It always helps to hear the perspective of those that have similar family dynamics to what we observe in Kate.

AuntieAnn said...

You can bet the Palins have top of the line camp gear...Kate would have probably had a warm down-filled sleeping bad and an air mattress. That crisp fresh Alaskan air would have done her a world of good. Nope. Wasn't going to happen. She's a spoiled ROTTEN brat.

Over In Berks said...

But corn as a MEAL? We never ate corn just by itself nor did I ever see that in PA or the east coast, unless you're at the faire and getting it for a snack.

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We always ate corn by itself as a meal when I was a kid, as did my friends' families, relatives, and all of us other odd-balls! We also never grilled it, and I still don't. Occasionally we'd have it with hotdogs or burgers, but mostly, corn was the meal! When I make it for the kids, I always ask them what they want with it, and they'll say, "Nothing...just the corn!"

I also make deep-dish corn pie, which is the SE PA version, just the crust, cut up corn, salt, pepper, hard boiled eggs, milk, parsley and butter, the way my mother and grandmother made it. So good!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Tweed-le said...And now Kate is ignoring her, won't even wish her Happy Birthday even though Paige has told her several times! Even the "haters" are wishing her HB, but not Kate.
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23 minutes later:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@Paige_Kate8fan woah. How'd I miss this? Happy birthday Paige... Hope it's a great one! Be safe!

Now Kate, the word is WHOA, not WOAH. Sound it out.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Berks I mean this as a serious question, how do you get your protein as a meal? My family would pitch an absolute fit if all you served them was corn on the cob. They would want a protein. There would certainly be whining and tears from the kids about how hungry they are. A stick of corn at the fair never filled me up, just from personal experience. Your family must be light eaters. I'm not sure I believe this is a PA tradition since in four years I was there I never once saw such a thing!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I can't find any Alaska law saying you have to be with your kid on set. Some states don't require that, PA is one of them. That's why Kate could just leave the kids and go off to NYC and still have them filmed back at home without her. Alaska's child labor laws don't really get too specific with child actors since they probably don't have a lot of issues up there.

Working Woman said...

Thank you Ex-Nurse! Glad to be posting here :)

Over In Berks said...

Berks I mean this as a serious question, how do you get your protein as a meal?

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lol! We are not light eaters by any stretch of the imagination! On Saturdays and Sundays, we have our "big" meal at noon...pot roast, meat loaf, baked chicken, etc. In the evening, I'll make corn on the cob when it's in season. Nobody is starving, nor undernourished, nor protein-deprived. I was beginning to think I was weird, and I just called my girlfriend from high school and asked her what her mom served with the corn. She said that sometimes it was sliced tomatoes, and sometimes apple sauce, but corn was the meal, and they'd have a contest to see how may ears you could eat at a sitting!

"I'm not sure I believe this is a PA tradition since in four years I was there I never once saw such a thing!"

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lol! I'm sure that not everyone in PA eats corn as a meal. If you were here for a corn on the cob meal, I would make sure that you had chicken and a salad to eat with it! I wouldn't want you to go away hungry!

Kate tweeted that the twins are not at home.

Oops -- there goes the power!

AuntieAnn said...

freudian slip...meant to say bag, not bad in my last post.
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Anyway -


Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@Paige_Kate8fan woah. How'd I miss this? Happy birthday Paige... Hope it's a great one! Be safe!

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She didn't miss it. She was intentionally ignoring her biggest fan. She's trying to dump them all and it's not working.

I'm making popcorn, this could get ugly.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That explains it you had your main meal at lunch. You left that part out. Now that I DID see in PA, probably leftover from the farmers who would need a lot of calories at lunch time and not as much later in the day. The two tortilla chips and salsa Kate feeds the kids for lunch isn't a main meal that would make them only want corn for dinner.

AuntieAnn said...

When we have the first fresh corn feed of the summer I serve it by itself first, then the main meal, usually something from the bbq. It's just that corn is such a sloppy thing to eat, well for my family anyway. Someone always has it on their left on their chin and we don't tell them. It's a deeply steeped tradition in our family.

Anonymous said...

I'm from NW Pa and we always have something with corn on the cob. It's just a yummy side thing. I can't imagine ever just saying, Hey we are having corn on the cob and nothing else. LOL That just wouldn't go over here, but to each their own is what I say.

ricksmom

Made for TV said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 91
Made for TV, I don't understand what you mean. Of course it was a cross promotion. The Palins still had to agree to it and host it. Regardless, you shouldn't be kind and generous to your hosts just because you're filming a cross promotion. It's okay to be rude because it's just "made for TV"? That's not what a good mom teachers her kids. Out here it gets you a lot further when you are kind and grateful to people on set. It gets you to the next project and next set, and so on. Get a reputation as rude and ungrateful on set and you won't see many more sets. See Kate. At the end of the day, people want to be happy at their jobs and not deal with divas, including if your job is a set job.

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I never said it was OK to be rude. I thought that episode showed Kate at her absolute worst. I merely pointed out that there was nothing kind nor generous about the Palins hosting the Gosselins. It was a business deal for which both parties were paid.

I've spent my entire life in Los Angeles and have been on a set or two in my time, so please don't condescend to lecture me about how things are done "out here."

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I merely pointed out that there was nothing kind nor generous about the Palins hosting the Gosselins. It was a business deal for which both parties were paid.

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I totally disagree. It was their state, their home, their camping site, their equipment, their family, their children, their family outing. Business deal or not, it was kind and generous of them. Sarah Palin could have easily told producers she's not going to work with Kate and no one would have pitched a fit. So yes, it was kind and generous. Just because reality shows are on TV and heavily produced doesn't remove the human element of what's happening or excuse bad behavior because it was just a business deal. I would have said the same thing about the Gosselins being kind and generous if the cross promotion occurred at THEIR house and the Palins were rude to them.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Oh and Sarah Palin also had the family over at her house and father's house. She absolutely did not have to agree to have them come into her environment and family homes. They could have filmed the entire episode at the shooting range but they didn't. They are both getting paid, but one was the host, the other was the guest. She was kind and generous, IMO. Even Kate in the episode talked about how nice the Palins were for having them over so even she saw it that way.

Jo said...

We keep talking about Kate like she was some kind of big stah. Comparisons to REAL celebrities just don't match up. Real celebrities have worked hard at their craft. Kate doesn't have a craft. It doesn't matter what she does from here on out because she never really mattered to anyone to begin with..her kids did and that's the only reason we're still here. She has fallen off the map of notoriety. The general population forgot about her a long time ago.

Made for TV said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 106
I merely pointed out that there was nothing kind nor generous about the Palins hosting the Gosselins. It was a business deal for which both parties were paid.

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I totally disagree. It was their state, their home, their camping site, their equipment, their family, their children, their family outing. Business deal or not, it was kind and generous of them. Sarah Palin could have easily told producers she's not going to work with Kate and no one would have pitched a fit. So yes, it was kind and generous. Just because reality shows are on TV and heavily produced doesn't remove the human element of what's happening or excuse bad behavior because it was just a business deal. I would have said the same thing about the Gosselins being kind and generous if the cross promotion occurred at THEIR house and the Palins were rude to them.

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You conveniently eliminated the part of my post where I stated that it was not OK to be rude and that Kate was at her worst. I find that a bit "rude."

We will have to agree to disagree on the rest as I don't think kindness and generosity had a darn thing to do with it and your repeated attempts to convince me otherwise will not change that. I am entitled to an opinion that differs from yours. And for the record, if the situation were reversed I would not think that the Gosselins were kind and generous to have hosted the Palins. I would have thought they were doing the job for which they were paid, just as the Palins did.

fidosmommy said...

I'm thinking that Alaska may have become a topic for the kids because of the current heat wave. "I wish I could go someplace as cold as an icicle!"
"Ooooh, the North Pole!"
"Iceland!"
"Alaska!" and off they went on a memory of it being cold there, with Kate listening and deciding she needed to use it for her own
image saving purposes about Alaska.

Just a thought.

Susantoyota said...

Betsy said... 88

Completely agree. The American public is totally forgiving of celebrities (guess I have to call her that) who have screwed up. Look at Martha Stewart. The woman was jailed for several months, and after a year or two, people just sort of forgot about it and Martha continued her dynasty.

Now Kate is no Martha, we know. However, if she would simply lay low for several months then go on one of the talk shows and SINCERELY admit that she has made many mistakes (especially the relentless filming of her kids and her treatment of Jon) and she is truly sorry for her actions, publicly state that she is receiving therapy to address her issues, and assert her willingness to change, people would forgive her.

I truly believe this. I don't think it's too late, but she MUST commit to therapy. Is she capable of this? I don't see it happening, but it's not impossible.
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Well, I'm sorry but I would not believe it EVEN if Kate was able to do all of the above. Not that I wish her ill--I do want her to hit rock bottom soon so those kids have a chance of getting out of the konpound and having some sort of childhood--but how many times has she 'appeared' to be turning over a new leaf like this last time? She was saying positive things about Jon, then abandoning that position to resume her nasty parental alienation tweets.
I'd want to see her do everything as Betsy described above PLUS remain on the course for at least a year before I would 'believe' the change is a true one.

People with her degree of mental illness are rarely able to overcome it. JMHO.

Betsy said...

Did anyone notice the 1/3 filled water glasses in the corn photo? All of them are filled exactly the same. She still does not trust her children to drink without spilling and THEY ARE EIGHT YEARS OLD, for crying out loud. Gah... What a control freak.

Susantoyota said...

Back again. It's raining here in the Midwest and the sun is still shining!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Made for TV why are you so bitter and angry? Are you Susan or Abacus, you sound like them. If you agree that Kate was rude why are you so hung up on trying to prove Sarah Palin was not being kind and generous to her (which she absolutely was hehe).

Susantoyota said...

Over In Berks said... 98

I also make deep-dish corn pie, which is the SE PA version, just the crust, cut up corn, salt, pepper, hard boiled eggs, milk, parsley and butter, the way my mother and grandmother made it. So good!
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Recipe please!! My family makes a baked corn, no crust or hard boiled eggs.

readerlady said...

The thing that I noticed in the corn pic is the plate colors. The girls have pink plates and the boys blue. Still with the gender separation. God forbid the boys and the girls eat off the same color plates!

barnaby said...

One of my funniest memories was my first summer with my eventual husband back in 1979 when we were living outside of Ft. Bragg, NC.

A farmer had a truck parked along side a road, and I was thrilled to buy a dozen ears of Silver Queen corn. So at dinner, I boiled them up and served them. My now husband ate an ear and looked at me and asked what else we were having for dinner.

I didn't have a clue. Growing up in Wisconsin, from late August for about three weeks, corn on the cob for dinner was the norm a few meals. Just like a lunch of peas on the pod acquired by following a truck on the way to packing plant and picking up the freshly picked vines filled with peas that fell from the truck was the meal in itself. Serendipity is a wonderful thing.

As for corn on the cob today, I tend to parboil it rather than boiling it to death. And when we still lived in the Mid-Atlantic, I also steamed some shrimp or a few crab. Now that we are back in Wisconsin, he gets a steak and I still eat cobs of corn till I can't anymore.

SeeSaw said...

Over in Berks - I'm in Berks, too. At least once every summer we would have my Dad's favorite meal: corn on the cob, fried eggplant (with ketchup of course) and sliced tomatoes. My husband on the other hand would faint from hunger w/o some meat haha. And corn pie! My grandmother used to make it just like that. I wish I had her recipe and would love yours.

meagler said...

What is that glass bowl with the green design on it, with the plastic lid that looks like it has a hole in the top? It has been in several of the table pictures..this corn on the cob one, and the easter one.?

I also noticed the placemats are the world map on one side of the table, and multiplications on the other. I hope that meal time is not also school time for these kids!

Once a year, we have a good old corn feed, and only corn, for supper. Did that when I was growing up too...and since there is no protein, come to think of it, we likely are all feeling a bit hungry later that nite...

Tess said...

Count us in as another family who eats just corn (as much as one wants) for a meal in the summer. We do the same with watermelon, too!

That said, we do not line up with one ear of corn on a plastic plate with our water glasses all at the same level for a picture to be taken and posted to the internet. Kate is an idiot.

There is plenty of food the rest of the day that fills protein and other dietary needs. Also, we would never serve just corn to guests unless they wanted just corn :)

Tess said...

Oh, yes, peas! I've eaten my way through more this week than I care to admit! Raw from the pod - breakfast, luch, dinner, snacks. Love them. Peas, corn and real heirloom fresh, truly vine-ripened tomatoes. Summer food is so good!

Ex Nurse said...

Made for TV said....
You conveniently eliminated the part of my post where I stated that it was not OK to be rude and that Kate was at her worst. I find that a bit "rude."
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I guess I am rude, too. I only cut and paste the part of the post I'm responding to. some blogs are organized in threads and responses are kept with the post--No cut and paste necessary. This bog is on a timeline, so we have to cut and paste. If everyone included the entire post, it would be tedious to read the same thing over and over again.

Sometimes the intent of a poster can be misconstrued or taken out of context. But you seem to be accusing Admin of having some hidden agenda.

Misunderstandings happen--not an excuse for rudeness. We have had many people come here to provoke a response and I imagine that Admin finds it tiresome. Overall, she has proven to be fair, but, she is human. It isn't always possible to discern motivation, especially if we are not familiar with you or your point of view. But, if you are here to provoke, then you may not get a friendly reception. If you want to engage in thought discussion, then welcome.

Tess said...

I'm bringing this over from the last thread (just can't keep up). It is a snippet from our summer. I guess I posted it because life can really throw things at you and eventually you do come out on the other side.

We've been having a busy summer. It is the first time in 4 years that my guys have not been in surgery, preparing &/or recovering from major ones.

I've trying to catch up on all the wonderful memories in the beach thread, and am sending out good thoughts/wishes/prayers for all those who are going through tough times right now.

I'd like to share a bit about the 3 day trip we made to the coast. As I said, it was the first time in 4 years we were not in some kind of medical crisis. Though, it is a spot we've all been to before, it seemed especially beautiful this time.

We were all together again (finally), the scenery was nothing short of breathtaking, and we enjoyed every minute. We had to adapt some of our activities to accomodate a wheelchair/low stamina for my dh, all the medical equipment went with us, our ds medical food, tubes etc... but it was just the *best* 3 days we've had in years :) A vacation - a real one. We brought a friend for our ds, we played ping-pong with crazy points alloted for all kinds of silliness that happens when only one person has any skill (dh) - LOL. The kids put quarter after quarter in the claw machines, we swam for hours, and we walked the breakwater to the lighthouse and took pictures for dh, who unfortunately, can't make that trip any longer.

It's hard to explain how amazing it was emotionally to be there. Because we'd traveled by plane to another state to the children's hospital for our son, and because of the hospital itself and the amazing people at the Ronald McDonald House and all who donate tickets to the local museums/zoo/aquarium etc.. for the kids, dinners for the families, pet therapy, plays and magic shows to cheer the kids who are there, he seems to remember more of the good parts of having to be there than the surgeries themselves. Anyway, at one point on the beach, ds asked us if we were there to see the doctor, and I had tears in my eyes, and told him "No, honey. This is a vacation. A real one with no doctors."

Okay, I think I've probably overshared, but you've all shared things that have made me laugh and cry, so that is our special summer tale.

On topic: Kate is still an idiot. The people who post here have such good hearts and appreciation for life... always in stark contrast to "Our Lady of Perpetual Whine".

Fibber Fibber said...

I think this is why Kate is bringing up the Alaska trip....This exchange happened on twitter yesterday between 2 or 3 people. The guy who said he watched the Alaska episode never tweeted her before so he is not one of the usual "haters".


dannec

Just watched @Kateplusmy8 on Sara Palins Alaska show. Never seen such an ungrateful bitch. How sad for her kids
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mscatie

@dannec @Kateplusmy8 It was quite the eye opener, wasn't it? Had you watched prior episodes of the show?
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dannec

@jongosselin1 I now understand why you got rid of @kateplusmy8 that lady is a basket case!
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dannec

@mscatie I found it on netflix! I felt so bad for Sara. I feel bad for @Kateplusmy8 kids. She's a bitch.
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mscatie

@dannec @Kateplusmy8 Yes, Kate ruined it for ALL the kids & made the adults miserable. It was embarrassing to even watch.
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dannec

@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 acted like the spoiled brat she is. Freaking joke.
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belle379

@dannec @kateplusmy8 If she acted like that in front of the camera, just image what she's like when no ones watching.

chefsummer said...

GN, all. Spent my 1st summer holiday EVER ( my 1st full holiday period,I think) w/o my kids..but happy they got extra X 2 spend w/their dad
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I guess since they spent Halloween with the nannies she doesn't consider that a holiday.

Over In Berks said...

Recipe please!! My family makes a baked corn, no crust or hard boiled eggs.

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There is no recipe! I just watched my grandmother and mother make it and I have no idea about measurements. The link below is as close as I could find to mine. I add parsley on the top. I also use a deep glass baking dish, 9 inches by 3 inches deep (the dish is at least 50 years old!) and so I repeat the layers. The one here, though, will taste the same as mine.

For another version, you can add raw oysters with juice to the corn pie to make corn and oyster pie.

http://amanditadesigns.blogspot.com/2011/09/corn-pie-pennsylvania-dutch-dish.html

fidosmommy said...

I think a corn dinner sounds wonderful. I really love corn on the cob, completely plain.

I just read that Dr. Phil has a 2 part show coming up this week (Tues & Wed) on children trying out to be stars. They will be running some kids through their "star potential" paces on the show.

One of the children is named Justice. Justice is a singer and dancer. Justice is also the name of a young boy who dances for the Candy Apples in Ohio, the studio owned by a woman who used to be on Dance Moms on TLC. I can't remember her name right now...Kathy?..she has a daughter named ViviAnne.

Would have been interesting if Dr. Phil had sent Kate Gosselin some info about these 2 episodes so she could have one or two of her kids try out.

fidosmommy said...

It was their state, their home, their camping site, their equipment, their family, their children, their family outing.

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True. All true. It was also SARAH'S SHOW. Not Kate's.

Could you imagine Kate's reaction if Emeril, Sara Snow, or another invited person had suddenly become rude and bitchy about the
layout of the kitchen, or the sit-ability of her side chairs or the temperature in her house?

chefsummer said...

Just watched @Kateplusmy8 on Sara Palins Alaska show. Never seen such an ungrateful bitch. How sad for her kids
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Give this man a pat on the back he said what normal America thinks and wanted to say.

Mel said...

Why do I get the feeling that Kate was so upset hearing that the kids "had a blast" on July 4th that she is now replaying the DVDs of the show to show the kids what a good time they had with mommy?

Bingo.

While it may indeed be true that the kids had a good time at the first-class luxury resort (NOT a rustic log cabin like you're trying to imply, you liar), they also clearly did NOT want to leave the camping. They only agreed to it after she manipulated them into leaving.

While it was a business deal on both sides, Kate sure didn't honor her side of the contract, now did she. Do y'all suppose her contract said stand off to the side, bitch and moan, and refuse to participate?

No, probably not.

I think TLC was sick of her by then. They had to know that first-class Kate wasn't going to go for camping. Even if she didn't have to do any of the work.

Personally I think they just have had a staff meeting to think up ways to torture her. Camping, push her off a building in Australia, the RV trip. Not exactly first-class treatment anymore.

I'd sure love to know who she pissed off at TLC. And what she did. It had to be something more than her usual awful self.

C'mon Kate. Spill.

chefsummer said...

AuntieAnn said... 62
Actually, if she would have left the camp by herself and let the kids stay, it would have been the best case scenario all around for everyone
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Oh no Mommy wasn't having fun so no one will have fun.

Mommy Gosselin left and if they didn't leave as well they wouldn't be a Gosselin.

She's a raving lunatic.

Meli said...

Nothing says "Summer" like a dinner of corn on the cob!
My family's from Wisconsin as well, Barnaby. Maybe that's where we got it!

ncgirl said...

I think Kate saying I'm listening in the Alaska tweet means she didn't even bring the subject up. The children did. She doesn't want people to think they're copying what she said. We know better of course.

Susantoyota said...

Fibber Fibber said... 130
I think this is why Kate is bringing up the Alaska trip....This exchange happened on twitter yesterday between 2 or 3 people. The guy who said he watched the Alaska episode never tweeted her before so he is not one of the usual "haters".


dannec

Just watched @Kateplusmy8 on Sara Palins Alaska show. Never seen such an ungrateful bitch. How sad for her kids
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mscatie

@dannec @Kateplusmy8 It was quite the eye opener, wasn't it? Had you watched prior episodes of the show?
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dannec

@jongosselin1 I now understand why you got rid of @kateplusmy8 that lady is a basket case!
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dannec

@mscatie I found it on netflix! I felt so bad for Sara. I feel bad for @Kateplusmy8 kids. She's a bitch.
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mscatie

@dannec @Kateplusmy8 Yes, Kate ruined it for ALL the kids & made the adults miserable. It was embarrassing to even watch.
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dannec

@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 acted like the spoiled brat she is. Freaking joke.
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belle379

@dannec @kateplusmy8 If she acted like that in front of the camera, just image what she's like when no ones watching.

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Oh, my. I love these people:) Cross overseas stardom off her list. Did Katie Irene ever respond directly or just thru the "kid's memories" where she was listening to their conversation? I would have expected something along the lines of until you've walked a mile in my shoes . . .

Mel said...

I KNEW Kate would say that she hadn't seen that it was Paige's birthday. She always does that, especially to the favorites.

I wish I would have called it this morning.

Over In Berks said...

I forgot to mention that I always use Silver Queen in my baked corn pie. I'm sure it would be just as good with other corn, but I've never tried it.

chefsummer said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Ha! Kids are talking abt their fond memories in Alaska...'sleeping in that warm log cabin instead of in the cold rain' I'm just listening..
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Fond memories hahahaha remember it's on youtube Kate and Netflix.

They are going to know the truth about you one day.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The kids really shouldn't be watching that much TV in the first place especially in summer but when they do I don't find it all that healthy or beneficial to keep watching their old episodes when they were barely six years old. They'll have to watch them all again in therapy in 10 years anyway. There's lots of great programing for kids out there, educational and stimulating. Kate Plus 8 is not on the list.

Over In Berks said...

Sea Saw, 124: At least once every summer we would have my Dad's favorite meal: corn on the cob, fried eggplant (with ketchup of course)

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I thought I was the only one who ate ketchup on fried eggplant! The best fried eggplant ever was served at the old Zinn's Diner on Route 272 in Denver. I've never been able to make it quite as good. Their cole slaw was wonderful, too. I'd love to have that recipe.

I posted the corn pie recipe, and it probably is very close to what your grandmother made.

Marie said...

@Call Me Crazy,

If you are refering to me, I don't say it to me rude if you aren't especially but I don't need any compliments so please.

On another note, it is almost going to be mid July and Kate has not planned one trip anywhere for her and her family. Says a lot to me. I mean she can complain all that she wants but I don't believe she should continue to think pepole are going to hand her things. Even in America, you have to earn your living. Nobody should expect things to land in their lap.

But her? Oh no...she has to make a stupid bucket list. I still say that is something you do when you are about retirement age but I could be wrong. More she sits and whines about not being able to do things they more she stands to miss doing things with her kids.

As parents maybe I should think you should know your kids won't be little forever. Does she really want to sit back when she's elderly and wonder how much better things could have been if she had actually gotten off Twitter to more than the occasional backing or yard project?

I mean I grew up in a home w here my parents believed you had kids so you could simply show them how to be miniature adults. While I can and do appreciate certain things of preparing us to face the world and not be pitied, childhood is something that you never get back once it's gone.

But, go ahead Kate. Sit and Twitter your midd-age self away while your kids grow up wishing for things just because they were once "famous." I do not think you should look to reality television stars, heck, even movie stars to what your life will be like. If you want fame and all that you have to be willing to work for it, earn it, fall down a couple times, pick yourself back up, don't cry if things don't go your way. But do not sit and constantly complain about how hard your life is.

The saying is, there will always be someone worse off than you in whatever your situation, whether it be financial, emotional or whatever. You may never even know how good you have things. Kate and her kids have a roof over their head, clothing, food, transportation, medical. There are people even in America who have to make that choice between, "Do I afford medication this week...or do I buy food so I can eat?" Kate does not and probably never will have to make that choice so she is forunate.

She spoke of how proud she is to be an American, but I wonder...with all her complaints about how hard she has it...does she even remember that there are mother's with children in battered women shelters with nowhere to go? That there are kids who are lucky if they ket ketchup and crackets to eat for dinner? Face it Kate, your life, will never be as bad as you say it is.

Your blogging and your Twitter will not ever be the kind of support your children need. But you're too busy wrapped up in your famous-once-upon-a-time episdoe living lifestyle. And I don't pity you one bit. You brought it all on yourself.

anger issues kate said...

Kate is a sicko. I think Kate can't get over the fact, that they are not on TV anymore. She keeps re-living the past(watching JK8 and K8) Kate can't seem to let go or move on. I also think Kate still sees the tups as little kids of 3-6 not 8 year olds. She has referred to them as pre-schoolers, the littles, her babies, still puts portioned food on their plates(they can't put their own food on their plates by themselves), still makes them do stuff as a 6 pak(not one can be on a team or do anything separately), dresses them alike(like little dollies). Get with the picture Kate, they are not babies anymore, they are individuals. They just share a birth date. I also think Kate is brain washing them, into remember how much fun we had, don't you wish we still had that fun? So to do that fun again, tell everybody, we want to be on TV again. Kids aren't buying it. I also think Kate is still in love with Jon, and wants him back, for nothing she is watching the past. Kate made a big booboo. Jon won't have her back, he has moved on. What would kill Kate is if Jon gets married. Kate would be running around like a chicken without a head.

And yes, there are lots of stuff the kids can watch on TV, that are for kids. She can rent DVD's. Kate is lazy and living in the past.

JoyinVirginia said...

I only follow the twits because of what is posted here, but just want to say Good For Paige! For meeting normal teem and changing her faves and photos. Younger dd changes her profile pix every week or so, that's normal for most of her friends that I am also Facebook friends with.
Ms Kreider its boring so I am going to tell you about what its goingon with us.
Dh fell on tues night, we were walking from seeing fireworks back to car, he fell in a hole and will get surgery on his Achilles tendon next week. The doctor did give him permission to go to the beach if he keeps it elevated, so we are in OBX - the Outer Banks! It is hot, but e are at the beach! First time we have been able to use our house! (well, we do have to rent it out to help pay the mortgage, do I can't complain too much). Both our dds are with us, and it is so great that they like spending time with us. Walking on the beach, playing games, just spending time together. Its fun!
Ms Kreider is still boring.

anger issues kate said...

Meagler: That bowel on the table is one of the twins betta fish. One of them got a fish a couple of months ago.

Jessica said...

We always ate corn by itself as a meal when I was a kid, as did my friends' families, relatives, and all of us other odd-balls! We also never grilled it, and I still don't. Occasionally we'd have it with hotdogs or burgers, but mostly, corn was the meal! When I make it for the kids, I always ask them what they want with it, and they'll say, "Nothing...just the corn!"

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We do the same in Canada. What's wrong with once or twice a year eating only corn on the cob for a a meal? Nothing, as far as I know.

Still cigarette free!

chefsummer said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 144
The kids really shouldn't be watching that much TV in the first place especially in summer but when they do I don't find it all that healthy or beneficial to keep watching their old episodes when they were barely six years old. They'll have to watch them all again in therapy in 10 years anyway. There's lots of great programing for kids out there, educational and stimulating. Kate Plus 8 is not on the list.
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She wants them to see how good mommy and the TV show made their life.

She could take them on an educational vacation around the city or to museums but we know she won't.

It's all about Kate & what she wants.

Jessica said...

Admin, if you have kids that cry and whine when served corn on the cob as a meal, there might be a problem. Lots of kids get sent to bed without dinner. I'd suggest that. LOL

AuntieAnn said...

There's lots of great programing for kids out there, educational and stimulating. Kate Plus 8 is not on the list.
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I agree. It's kind of a sick conditioning she's got going there. Almost surreal the way she plays them over and over for them.

But those tapes are going to come in handy when they're training staff in the new psychiatric wing they're going to have to build exclusively for Kate Gosselin. It's going to take a really big team to fix her head.
Chefs - you're right. She's a raving lunatic.

AnnaOakie said...

I grew up in Oklahoma and remember many meals eating fresh corn only. My favorite childhood memories are family dinners at my aunt's house in the country. My uncle had a huge garden of corn, okra, squash, potatoes, tomatoes, etc. Several times during the summer my mother's family (she was the 10th of 11 children) would get together for dinner in the country. All the vegetables were picked that same day and we always had fried chicken (doused in corn meal, not flour). When I was younger, like many of my cousins, I only wanted to eat corn-on-the-cob, usually several ears. There were usually 15-20 cousins in attendance and we would play basketball, catch fireflies and any other games we could think of. At the end of the night, we usually had home-made ice cream (fresh peach was my favorite). Unlike many who post here, I really don't have fond memories of going to the beach but I do have my memories of these family dinners which are precious to me. I am sitting here remembering the wonderful smell of my aunt's kitchen. What's funny is that my parents did take us on many really nice vacations to many wonderful places; but my strongest memories are of those family get togethers, eating corn only dinner. :)

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Anger said:

"I also think Kate is still in love with Jon,"

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Was she ever in love with him? It certainly didn't seem so.

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Jessica -
Good for you for being cigarette free! That's awesome! Keep up the good work - you know we're pulling for you.

I think it's hilarious that Kate put that tweet out about the Alaska trip. It didn't take long for someone here to find the negative comments about it that spurred her remark. She is so damn transparent!

Corn for supper . . . we never do that, but I totally could. I LOVE corn on the cob! I read that 1 ear has about 3 grams of protein, so several ears would give you at least some protein. But not like a steak would. :)

Tess - I'm so glad your family got to enjoy a real vacation with no doctors involved. That was a sweet story.

Joy in Virginia - Enjoy your time in the OBX. That's really cool that you have a house there. During our vacation in Corolla in early June we were discussing the pros and cons of being a home owner there. It is a nice place, isn't it?

readerlady said...

We used to have a corn on the cob dinner the first time the "roastin' ears" came in. Wonderful, dripping in fresh-churned butter, with a little salt and pepper. My mom's favorite uncle was a tobacco farmer in Kentucky, but he also had a large "truck" garden. We kids would go out to the field and pick the corn, my great aunt would cook it on her old wood-burning stove, and we'd dive in. Yum! I also remember her making apple butter over an open fire, in a copper kettle and stirred with a big wooden paddle. That was another meal -- scratch biscuits with fresh apple butter.

Mrs. Malaprop -- you are right. An ear of corn has approx. 3 - 3.5 grams of protein, depending on size.

Sleepless -- I don't know if KK ever really loved Jon. I think she loved the IDEA of Jon (and his father's money). OTOH, I think Jon was wildly in love with KK, at least at the beginning. Even during the early days of the show, it was apparent in the way he looked at her and in the way he treated her. She didn't know how good she had it.

ncgirl said...

"I would have expected something along the lines of until you've walked a mile in my shoes"

On Friday, Kate tweeted "Don't judge my path if you haven't walked my journey." I wonder if she did this after seeing the tweets about her in Alaska.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

readerlady said:

I think she loved the IDEA of Jon (and his father's money).

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...and the power to make his girlfriend disappear the next day.

"She didn't know how good she had it"

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I wonder if she realizes it now.

Improbable Dreams said...

ncgirl said... 158
On Friday, Kate tweeted "Don't judge my path if you haven't walked my journey."

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I've seen that elsewhere, and aside from its in-your-face, talk-to-the-hand, neener-neener tone & content (so Khate), I'm thinking it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say, "Don't judge my journey if you haven't walked my path"?

Gah, maybe I'm just overthinking things tonight...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

All my babies are tucked in...And I'm off to zzzz land myself... The Fireworks booming in the distance won't keep this tired momma awake!:) about 3 hours ago

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They are not babies Kate. STOP.

The don't judge my path thing is so convenient, I love it. Since most people would never step even two feet down her path, how can we ever be in a position to walk her path?

Also the Dionne kids did go down that path and wrote a letter begging the McCauleys not to make the same mistake.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Oh, my goodness. What aren't they teaching these kids in high school in the Midwest?

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I am in shoropmore in high school now I hope I make it through whole year

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Happy 4th of July of all! Happy bday to America! Idk how old is America? Anyone know?

This one has been pestering Kate for days for her phone number. Oy.

Ex Nurse said...

This was a Kate tweet dated 3 days ago. Does anyone now what she was talking about? Sounds like she is thanking her defenders...


"And yes, those WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING. Thankful for all, past and present.. Calm down ppl! (Characters limit you someXs but it was implied!)"

If so, does she have any idea how vile some of them are?

meagler said...

Anger Issues Kate: thanks for the info on the bowl. It looks like it has green froggie jube jubes in it...lol...Thats not where I would want it, on my dinner table, but to each there own I guess...

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Dreams said:

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say, "Don't judge my journey if you haven't walked my path"?

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Yes, it would. It's a version of the old Native American saying, "Don't judge a man until you've walked in a mile in his moccasins.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't understand really what she's saying in that tweet about her sheeple fighting for her. But is she at all embarrassed she needs an army of tweeties just to stay above water? She doesn't find that odd that so much time on twitter is spent defending her honor? I keep picturing the sheeple with pitchforks singing Onward Christian Soliders.

Anonymous said...

She was talking about soldiers fighting for our country not the sheeple. She thanked the ones who fought for our country but got crap for not thanking the ones who are still fighting. She said that not what she meant. Couldn't address it all in 140 characters. So she thanked the soldiers who are currently fighting.

LancasterCountyMom said...

"I was beginning to think I was weird, and I just called my girlfriend from high school and asked her what her mom served with the corn. She said that sometimes it was sliced tomatoes, and sometimes apple sauce, but corn was the meal, and they'd have a contest to see how may ears you could eat at a sitting!"

Nope, Berks - you are not weird! I grew up in NE PA & our family would also have corn & sliced tomatoes for supper - and we wouldn't have something like pot roast for lunch either. We didn't have it day after day after day, but when it came in season we'd go down to the garden, pick a bunch, and have as much as we wanted. My cousins moved to Florida & I was just talking with her about this a couple months ago. She mentioned that they'd also make a meal from just corn, too.
Now I am in SE PA & I have alot of guys in my family and they all love when it's time for fresh sweet corn with lots of good butter & homegrown tomatoes with olive oil & balsamic vinegar sprinkled with salt!

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 39
No they slept in perfectly decent tents, and it stopped raining anyway as soon as Kate left, the sky cleared.
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Quite the irony. Nature did not even want to deal with her :)

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Children of NPD parents know EXACTLY what to say to keep their NPD parent happy and content. They learn to parrot the appropriate response to keep things calm and to avoid the wrath of the NPD parent(even when they know it is not true.) Life is much simpler that way.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

AuntieAnn said... 2
What is it going to take to get Kate to come to the realization that there is something terribly wrong with her behavior. If she wants "the best" for her kids she needs to get help. Someone needs to slap some sense into her and it looks like it might take a judge to do it. Those kids have enough problems without the added guilt of thinking it's not right to love their their father because their mother thinks she's been wronged.
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I think ALL of the kids wanted to go to the 4th of July events with their dad and may have even put pressure on Kate to let them go, as they seemed to have enjoyed this in the past, get to be kids for a day with other normal kids and not ten million constraints from Kate. Jon is obviously the much more relaxed parent.

Deep down, I think Kate knows she is still not capable of taking her 8 kids out in public (as SHE would panic- no one else would care) and is jealous that Jon is able to do this alone, without ten million helpers. And the kids love this about him. A simple outing without ten million ridiculous restrictions- imagine that? Imagine a parent letting kids have fun, without Kate's constant panic, yelling,disruption,rules,tantrums and "Masterminding."

Obviously Jon is capable of going on a simple outing and letting the kids be kids and have fun. And Kate is resentful of this, in my opinion, as her NPD is set in stone, and she knows she will never be able to do this with all of her kids, without
completely ruining the day for them. She is the ultimate buzz kill in almost every situation unless she has "help," and even then she does not know or care to know how to enjoy the moment with her kids. Rather, her need to control everything kicks in and ultimately has ruined 90% of the activites these kids have gone to with her. Think Alaska, Crayola factory, etc.... Pretty pathetic. She needs to get help, but she won't.

franky said...

Re corn as a main meal,

Here in Quebec (Ontario too) we have what we call "epulchette de bled'inde"

Ontario I think calls it "cornfest".

We do not eat anything but corn that day. In Quebec, boys and girls have 2 different piles..we take the husks off as fast as we can " epiluche"..one ear of corn in eavh pile is injected with food dye..red and blue.

The boy and girl who husks the right cob are deemed King an Queen of the day.

Then the party and eating stats..lol,great home-spun fun with froends and neighbours

franky said...

Tess,


you brought tears to my eyes while I was smiling (!if tjat makes any sense)


Good on youse..and hugs from me=)

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Admin 166 - She is a control freak, in every way. Even Twitter- how sad. She also obviously reads here, where it has been noted that her twitter is disgraceful, as she lets all the fighting go on. I think this is her passive way to pretend she wants the sheeples to stop fighting with the haters. (Although I think she enjoys it when they fight for her, mainly because she is a sad pathetic person, whose existence has been reduced to a pathetic twitter account, in terms of relevancy).

Pretty sad with 8, Count 'Em 8 kids that she relies on twitter for relevancy. Her time would be better spent with her kids. And in therapy but NPDs don't benefit much from treatment, so I guess she will continue to feed her ego by Twitter. She really is getting more pathetic by the minute.

mama mia said...

I used to trip over film productions in my Vancouver neighbourhood (Kitsilano), the notices posted on our door would tell us who was in town filming what and we'd get heads up about stunts and car chases. What I noticed is that not much gets filmed outdoors in the daytime. The camera must not like sunshine because it had to be really overcast and dark before actors were brought to the set. When you see your street turned into a set it gives you a better understanding of how things are made to appear on film. The movie "Look Who's Talking" with Kirstie Alley and John Travola was filmed on our street, the house they used was covered with tarps to control the light. The trailers brought in for the crew are not for sleeping, they are for waiting, and they did put in 18 hour days, the split being about 1 hour of action and 17 hours waiting around. Kate keeps saying her show is not acted or scripted hoping people will just forget about the real issues on set, these being sound and lighting. Her kids no doubt had to do most of their outdoor filming after dark and spend a lot of time being available with no much to do but wait.

koopdedoo said...

Ex-nurse #163 -

Is it possible that she made some statement earlier thanking the PAST defenders of our country on 4th of July, and someone pegged her for not thanking the brave men & women who are currently serving in the military?

Count me in the "corn for dinner" gang! I remember going to a farm to get fresh Silver Queen corn, my brother & I would have only that, my Mom also had fresh tomatoes and cucumber salad (both from our garden) for her & my dad to enjoy in addition to the corn. Even my Dad the carnivore was satisfied with that! (not every night)

Admin, think about it...some of us remember time before the food pyramid! ;-)

Eating an all vegetable dinner was how we didn't waste what we grew in the garden. And it wasn't the only meal of the day.

barbee said...

with kate her love of something is always first linked to its monetary value.

Jon's value was his dad's money (that she was going to buy with her Asian HOM's). The value of all the trips was not so much where they went but the cost of getting/being there. She's ALL about the $$$$$$ $$.

Dr. Phil had NO reason to think of her with re to his upcoming show on talented kids. Firstly, remember how he snubbed her on The View? Secondly, kids who get somewhere in the entertainment or sports world generally started their training VERY early, like 5-6 in sports and as early as 3-4 in dance.

With her, maybe we are doing her a favor by calling her a narcissist. That may be sort of ingrained, not necessarily all learned behavior. As an idiot, she, doesn't really have the capability of changing it becaused she doesn't recognize that anything is wrong. BUT as a bitch, she sees it, recognizes it and best of all, works it.

Her fame is fading, her tweets are dwindling and it even appears her loyal twits are bailing on her. We can take comfort in the fact that she is NOT going to get #1 on her bucket list... being televised until the tups graduate.

Is there a link for the 'corn eating' pics? I can never find these gems.

KateIsBlind said...

Berk/Admin

I'm from Western PA and we do the same. Big meal earlier in the day and big pot of corn for dinner. I, too, usually have sliced tomatoes, cucumbers and something small with it.

To the poster asking about the time stamping. Whoever cut and pasted Kate's tweet with a time difference to yours - whatever time zone they are in is their time on the stamp, not yours.

JudyK said...

All my babies are tucked in...And I'm off to zzzz land myself... The Fireworks booming in the distance won't keep this tired momma awake!:)
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There were still Fireworks on Saturday night?

KateIsBlind said...

#163

Kate thanked thousand who "fought" for us when she was saying Happy 4th. People jumped on her asking why she didn't mention those who are still fighting for our freedom here in USA.

Improbable Dreams said...

Ex Nurse said... 163
This was a Kate tweet dated 3 days ago. Does anyone now what she was talking about? Sounds like she is thanking her defenders...


"And yes, those WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING. Thankful for all, past and present.. Calm down ppl! (Characters limit you someXs but it was implied!)"

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It wasn't about Kate and her minions, per se.

Kate was defending a tweet in which she'd expressed gratitude for all those who'd fought for our country's freedoms. Apparently someone got up in arms about her not also giving tribute to modern-day soldiers -- those who defend our interests on the battlefields even now. I don't remember it being a big deal, just one person's comment in a flurry of July 4th tweets. But Kate saw it as a personal attack, I guess...thus, this short-lived battle of words.

Dmasy said...

Sweet corn -- here the favorite seed to plant is Illini Super Sweet.

At the farm we usually plant 3 acres. My father-in-law (90 years+) would sit in the shade in his lawn chair and watch the social event of sharing with friends and neighbors who would come to pick their own. Some of the pickers would trade him a bushel of corn for a home baked pie or cookies. He passed away in March, so we only planted one acre this year. The tradition will fade away.

However, we are in such a draught this year that the corn did not develop. (We are looking at the same crisis in our seed corn fields.)

There is a saying here that if the water isn't boiling when you pick the corn -- it isn't fresh.

TLC stinks said...

JudyK, we still were hearing fireworks. People were shooting off leftovers.

TLC stinks said...

Never just had corn for dinner, but sounds fine to me. I just have to wonder if the tups only got ONE cob each, and what about those PRECISELY MEASURED glasses of whatever with no ice? She is so freakin' controlling!

Lilly said...

Peaches and cream corn - lots of real butter and salt with fresh tomatoes for supper - I cook them in the microwave to keep the heat down in the kitchen

A little cooler this am but still going up to the mid 30s for the rest of the week and no sign of rain - fields are brown and very dry

Dmasy said...

Lily we just started with the microwave method. Works so well and you are right about keeping the kitchen heat down. Grilled corn is tasty, too.

Even if we fix a balanced meal, when the corn is fresh I would rather forgo the meat and just eat one ear after another of that golden goodness.

Lilly said...

Just love this time of year - strawberries are done but raspberries just moved in

Franky - funny thing about the wild blueberries we get here - they are all from northern Quebec n

Working Woman said...

Wishing everyone a wonderful Sunday.

Today I am heading to the beach with my mom and sister (assuming the heat isn't too unbearable). May the fantastic, deserving Gosselin children soon enjoy a trip like this, sans a camera crew :)

Lilly said...

Dmasy the microwave method rocks :-)

OT just love Sunday mornings - cbc radio has a program called Choral Concert for 2 hours -gentle calm gorgeous -DH sits on front porch with outside speakers and coffee and I curl up in my chair with my Mimosa - enjoy your Sunday everyone

TLC stinks said...

Because she twitted when asked where the twins were and she responded not home, perhaps they stayed with Jon? All her "babies" tucked in could just mean the tups too. Aren't C and M old enough to have some sayso in time with their dad?

Referring to NPD and kids saying the appropriate response to keep the narcissistic parent calm, I truly believe this is what is going on in that household. I used to think Mady, who was the rebellious one on the show, would be the one to tell Kate to F-off, but from Kate's gushing about her and those posed photos, I don't believe that is what will happen. Kind of sad that these kids are being molded by a disturbed individual. I hope their time with Jon is helping to counterbalance Kate.

Once a Viewer said...

I replied on the Andy Griffith post, but I mentioned that now the kids get a whole cob of corn each- used to just have a half....Collin not looking at camera again ( eyes closed)...and wouldn't the kids see Mommy as she truly was if they watch their own show ad nauseam re: Palin camping fiasco? They would have so much more fun camping than in a cabin with rules & regulations and Kate!

Mel said...

It's weird about the trips.

I don't think Kate gives a hoot where they go. She's just addicted to being treated like a star is all. Because she only travels first class and thus has to do none of the work. Everyone waits on her. When you travel first class it's almost like being a mini celebrity, and that's the part that she likes. She LOVES having people wait on her.

She doesn't appear to have any particular interest in exploring the places once she gets there. Other than to have them treat her like a star....shut the place down for them, rope off the public so she can walk thru.

In general, she wants to be treated like the queen of England. Except even the queen doesn't demand such treatment.

I think a lot of it also is that at home she has to do a minimal amount of work. When she's traveling, the kids are at home, and Steve does all the work for the traveling piece. She gets to walk in and enjoy the fun part without having to do any of the work.

She is seriously allergic to work.

chefsummer said...

On Friday, Kate tweeted "Don't judge my path if you haven't walked my journey."
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If she's talking about the trip to Alaska well.

Kate I've been on tons of road trips 15-18 hour driving road trips with little kids.

I've been on 3-8 hour plane rides 4-7 hour fishing trips with family and friends.

I sat in the Texas hundred degree heat for hours when I didn't want to be there went fishing and camping when I hate it.

Why did I do this cause I think of others and I consider myself a spoiled brat who gets what I want.

Get what I'm saying Kate other people have needs like you walk in their shoe to

AuntieAnn said...

chefsummer said... 188
Get what I'm saying Kate other people have needs like you walk in their shoe to
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ITA, chef. Most of what I saw of her journey (or her path - whatever-) included exotic destinations, 5 star hotels, high-end restuarants, nannies, bodyguards, make-up artists, exclusive hair salons and spas, brand new furniture, appliances, free clothes, food, limos, plane rides...oh god, the list goes on...so it wasn't really that tough was it? How about she walks the path of the people who lost their jobs and still have mouths to feed, who stand in line at the food bank, dress in good will clothes, and sleep in tents because they HAVE to not because they want to. The only journey they take is the one to the employment office everyday in hopes of scoring a job, any job that will put food on the table.

I'm so so so sick of her griping that her life is tough. She has absolutely no right to even use that saying.

wayward said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 161
All my babies are tucked in...And I'm off to zzzz land myself... The Fireworks booming in the distance won't keep this tired momma awake!:) about 3 hours ago

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They are not babies Kate. STOP.

The don't judge my path thing is so convenient, I love it. Since most people would never step even two feet down her path, how can we ever be in a position to walk her path?

Also the Dionne kids did go down that path and wrote a letter begging the McCauleys not to make the same mistake.
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Amen Admin.

This is at least the 15th or so "don't judge me...." type tweet she's retweeted this year. Between telling us to stop judging her, she's also been very vocal about how every single person in this country would sell out their family on reality TV, given the chance.

It is very simple Kate. You went for more fertilty when you could not afford to support the twins you had. You really had no business trying for just ONE more. You couldn't afford it. Right here is where you lose 75% of America. We limit our families to the amount of children we can afford. From the time the impending birth of the tups was announced, until right now while living in your mansion, you persist on acting like a victim. Like this was done to you. Like this was beyond your control. Like because you were unprepared for this amount of children, someone else should always have to pay for them. You took shameless begging and prettied it up with bible passages and a $200.00 Ann Taylor dress. You are no different than the person standing on the street with a "will work for food" sign. Except that person is actually willing to do something in exchange for food, while you want top quality goods just handed to you so you can resell them for cash.

Keep on re-tweeting your redonkculous "until you've walked in my path" twats if that makes you feel better. Problem is... all you do is piss people off even more than they already are at you. I can imagine you even annoy your faithful sheeps with that crap too. I limited my family to three children. But my tax dollars got to pay for your decision NOT to be responsible, and thank God for the judge who cut you off when you wanted me to keep paying for your babysitter.


Listen up Blocky, because here's the kicker-we know what the path is. Mature, responsible, self sufficient and prideful adults know that having more children than one can afford is a terrible strain. Part of being an adult is knowing your limits and knowing that we can't always have everything we want. We don't do things that will cause us to be a leech to our family and society as a whole. YOU wanted to try for just one more, YOU willingly went for more fertility so YOU and their father are responsible for the 6 healthy and beautiful children you did receive. You are wasting your life away with your obsession with what you don't have while never being satisfied with the blessings you do have.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Mama Mia photographers call that magic hour. The light is the best just as the sun is setting. There is no glare, people don't squint, there's no big shade blotches and colors just seem to pop on film.

You can see that even with just a regular point and shoot camera. Take a picture of someone or even a ball or something at high noon on regular settings. Then in the same spot take the same picture when the sun is about to set or just as it sets. Your picture when the sun is about to set will look much better, even magazine quality.

I really don't know if the Gosselins had to do a lot of waiting around for magic hour. I get more the sense they filmed them all day long hoping for something good. There are many shots that seem to be in very bright high noon sunshine.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Oh also on really overcast days (total cloud cover) but when it's not raining is a great time to take photos. The improvement in photos will shock you.

AuntieAnn said...

wayward - OMG so well said!

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anger issues kate said... 69
July 7: 2 tweets so far today. 30 tweets for 9 days. how sad. boohoo!

What the matter Kate, nothing to talk about?
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It was predicted here by so many that she would eventually get tired of tweeting and sure enough...she is. All she has left is a few nutjobs and I think she's trying to distance herself from them too.

The floating turd that is Kate is finally going down. Yay.

Amy2 said...

On Friday, Kate tweeted "Don't judge my path if you haven't walked my journey."
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The public can absolutely judge Kate on anything she does. Kate wanted this. She wanted people to look at her as she goes about her life. The downside, which Kate didn't think about, is being a reality Stah means there are typically no boundaries. Kate is not a working actor where (generally) the public respect the boundaries into their private lives, especially their children's lives. The reality stars are not due the same respect. Unless, of course, the intrusion borders on potentially dangerous activities (e.g. stalking). Reality stars opened their private lives to the public to oogle, and critize.

Call Me Crazy said...

Marie said... 146

@Call Me Crazy,

If you are refering to me, I don't say it to me rude if you aren't especially but I don't need any compliments so please.
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Hi Marie,

I'm not sure what you are saying here. I had welcomed a new poster who said she was young, and I said there are people of all ages who post here. I mentioned your name specifically because you have very interesting things to say and I enjoy reading your posts. I apologize if I somehow offended you.

Tess - I am so glad you had such a wonderful vacation after all your family has been through. It was lovely to hear your story. I wish the best for your dh and ds.

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