Listen to the full interview here. Kate dishes about the Chicago marathon and other upcoming running events, how eight kids are not allowed to each have their own schedule and have to stay shut away in their rooms in the morning with a video, how she's tapping out some books on her iPhone, and finally this guy .....
... her police escort to the station this morning! Currently on the Y102 roof with a sniper rifle.
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I think there are people who truly feel awful about it and took to twitter about it, and then there are some people who maybe don't care as much but took to twitter ANYWAY and tweeted appropriate condolences because that's what you do.
I don't expect her to feel much given her NPD but the fact that she can't even put herself in the second group and recognize that care or not it's appropriate to show a certain level of sympathy, is just scary.
@LisaAllsmiles one night I'll cook, the next you, ok? Sign us up!;) about an hour ago
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Personally I think it's cruel to play cat and mouse games with your sheeple. Kate has no intention of ever having this sheeple cook for her and she darn well knows it. But I think the sheeple is serious.
God bless the people who were killed, may he heal the injured, and may he heal the hearts of the family members who lost a loved one.
Anyone in the Colorado area, please consider a blood donation.
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Well, my daughter worked the opening day of the movie, since our theater showed it and she only 1 family commented on the tragedy. 1. Call me cynical, but I think that a majority of the movie goers just didnt care - they were desensitized by all the violence in society and they are only out for themselves, moments of silence are ok, vigils are ok, but heaven forbid if someone has to give up something of themselves.
As for encouraging copy-cat behavior- media attention does a far better job at that than anything else ever could.
Kate is odd. She sees her worshipping sheeple tweeting current events, yet she deliberately stays mum. She has to know they are trying to help her help herself. She is just sitting with her fingers in her ears, saying "la la la- I can't hear you!"
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How does Milo know anything about Jon and Kate we don't know? Are we supposed to believe Kate is confiding in MILO?
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Kate could tell Milo she's the Queen of England in disguise and Milo would believe it.
Amyf, I'm completely hooked on the puppy cam and, of course, now want a puppy!
Funny how Kate has not gone early to Chicago? Kate was still home 11 hours ago, and she ran the tread mill, to get that pizza off. I thought, that if you ar going to run a race, your suppose to eat carbs, a couple of days before race? Kate has become obessessed with her weight. She said that she eats before race: a bowel of mashed potatoes, then a bagel with cream cheese. That to me does not sound right for a marathoner? Is it anyone? Sunday here is gonna be 95, hot & humid, but the race is in the morning, but our morning start off in the 70's and quickly climb to 85 by 10 am. I guess no special treatment for Kate. BOOHOO!
There is a woman who has repeatedly tweeted Kate asking for a retweet, that she's compiling them for her who husband who is deployed in the Middle East. Kate has never retweeted her. That baffles me. Kate could not have missed every single request. Why would she ignore such a simple request?
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Well, my daughter worked the opening day of the movie, since our theater showed it and she only 1 family commented on the tragedy. 1. Call me cynical, but I think that a majority of the movie goers just didnt care - they were desensitized by all the violence in society and they are only out for themselves, moments of silence are ok, vigils are ok, but heaven forbid if someone has to give up something of themselves.
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Butterfly that is pretty judgemental, cynical thing to say :( I agree w admin.
I don't think anyone is desensitized by these mass killings|shootings. Rather, I believe most Americans are appalled by these events, and the unnessary tragedy involved. Everyone handles sensational events differently, but I honestly believe that most people in US are horrified by the mass killings/injuries. We all know this could be anyone in our circle of family/friends in an instant, and that you never know when this will needlessly happen.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the families involved in the tragedy. And I honestly could not care less what Kate thinks of this, it is irrelevant, as is she.
Gosselin8 I agree. Many people were talking about it yesterday, really everyone was. Everyone seemed very moved and sincere. With the exception of Kate who was still farting rainbows by 3 o'clock, that is representative of how most people feel IMO.
Flashback to 6 months ago...
"Kate Gosselin may not have to keep up that coupon blog gig for long – tickets for a cruise with the former reality TV mom are reportedly selling just one day after they became available.
On Friday, it was announced that Kate would take to the seas in August for a Royal Caribbean cruise with fans and while many doubted whether travelers would pay to sail with the mother of eight, cabins on the Allure of the Seas ocean liner – ranging from $1,575 to $5,500 per person — are reportedly already being purchased.
“We are getting so many calls, so many e-mails,” Charlene Failla, Luxury Cruises and Tours president, told E! Online, of the interest in their new oceanic venture with Kate."
http://www.accesshollywood.com/pricey-tickets-selling-for-cruise-with-kate-gosselin_article_59078
Kate Gosselin only thinks about herself. It would be entirely appropriate for her to tweet condolences.
BTW, running 6 miles on a treadmill is a joke for a marathoner. I never ran but even I have done 6 miles on a treadmill. And the Chicago thing is a joke also. I think she is losing interest in marathons because it has not paid off with freebies or endorsements. No real tabloid coverage either.
Perhaps she is is lying about being home or is not leaving until today. If CC were picking up the tab for her to go last night, she'd be there with Steve. Or, and this is a big if, Steve is gone so she doesn't have her alone time with him anymore. I think there is a good chance he may have realized that there's no money in it for him hanging around anymore. Perhaps she said to him there's no salary but I'll pick up your expenses or CC said that they would only pay her expenses. For him to still be around is extremely suspect to me since she is no longer filming.
I wonder if Kate's on her way here to Chicago since the marathon is Sunday.
Or maybe since Steve her road manger is gone she won't be running.
I haven't had a chance to read all the comments, so forgive me Admin if someone asked, but how was the movie? My son is going tomorrow, but I'm just curious. And I am heartbroken for all the victims and their loved ones, but staying away from a movie you might want to see does not seem disrespectful to me.
The weather in Chicago is hot and humid. Close to 100 tomorrow. If she runs,hope she can deal with it. But it's only 3 miles,right?
Chicago is the last place I would want to run at this time of year--yuck. I hope any sheeple that are running with her are educated properly about proper hydration and nutrition.
Katie it was very good, the special effects were so mind blowing it really must be seen in theaters.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18
Chicago is the last place I would want to run at this time of year--yuck. I hope any sheeple that are running with her are educated properly about proper hydration and nutrition.
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Yup. Pretty much the way most folks felt about taking a Caribbean cruise in August.
Personally I think it's cruel to play cat and mouse games with your sheeple. Kate has no intention of ever having this sheeple cook for her and she darn well knows it. But I think the sheeple is serious.
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You're right. Anyone with half a brain would know that she's joking. Then there are the sheeple, who believe it. She just sets herself up for stalking and she's not smart enough to know it because she thinks her tweets are cute.
Tweet-le - I saw that request for the retweet. Kate retweets requests from someone whose boyfriend's second cousin's neighbor's boss has a guinea pig who is celebrating his six-month anniversary with them, but she won't retweet someone in the military.
“We are getting so many calls, so many e-mails,” Charlene Failla, Luxury Cruises and Tours president, told E! Online, of the interest in their new oceanic venture with Kate."
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She didn't say they were getting bookings, only calls and e-mails, which was probably true. Non-fans may have been calling to find out if Kate was using the kids as bait to get fans to sign up, or why the info on the website was lacking in so many important details.
See look how they shut down an entire movie! I am very wary of doing anything that empowers people who seek to hurt others like that. Just because a great deal of people chose to honor their prepaid tickets tonight doesn't mean they didn't feel the tragedy very deeply and feel for the victims.
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Here's my question, though. How can watch this movie and enjoy it, knowing what happened the previous night? Any other movie, maybe, but this particular one? Wouldn't this be on your mind throughout the entire show and thus be distracting? Mine would, but maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive (and too strange)!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 19
Katie it was very good, the special effects were so mind blowing it really must be seen in theaters.
July 21, 2012 8:42 AM
I'm at a loss for words.
I'm confused. Why should life stop because one individual was hurting, mentally ill and acting horrendously? I personally do not think it is fair or right for people to hand power over to criminals.
khater it has nothing to do with life not going on. Given the circumstances of the events that occured, I find the choice of words used to describe the movie incredibly tactless.
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I agree, although everyone reacts in his/her own way. I think the issue should have been addressed as it was by many, but closing the film down is not the answer; yes,it gives this individual the power he was seeking. Personally I would wait a while before going to the is movie ( if I was!) because I would be thinking about the tragedy and not concentrating on the screen. More power to the shooter. But in a way, on a different scale, it's like not having a national holiday on 9/11, yet commemorating the events and offering respect to the victims & families.Life does go on.
License to parent, I completely respect your opinion, but I think Admin was just giving her honest take on the movie and describing is as she felt it was best described. Times like these are very sensitive and so much can be taken as disrespectful or tacky, even when that it far from the person's intention
I see both sides. For myself, however, the movie and what happened are two different things. Even if the shooter made it about the movie, it isn't. People with mental illness can be 'inspired' by a lot of things, there is no logic or rhyme or reason. I personally can separate the talk about the special effects/quality of the movie from what happened. It could have been any movie, to me that is irrelevant. I personally will not stop going out in public, to the mall where we had a shooting a few weeks ago, or live in fear. I will not do anything dangerous (like walk around at night on my own in a dark alley) but I refuse to stop doing activities that SHOULD be safe because of unfortunate, tragic, isolated incidents. It doesn't make me any less compassionate for the families of the victims.
I have been reading this all from afar, as we are in Whistler, BC, Canada for a family wedding. The tragedy is horrific, but I truly believe we cannot give into the terror. It is respectful to cancel a premiere in Paris, but yes, do keep the shows running. I respect those who go now, and those who choose to wait, it is a matter of personal choice. If I were going, I would probably not be discussing the situation with the cashier, those in line or anyone else - personal choice.
That said, I guess I don't give an eff what Kate says, does or doesn't say or do. At a time like this, she is beyond irrelevant, no matter what Milo thinks.
I suppose using the words "mind blowing" when the coroner is probably still collecting brain matter of the victims from the theater floor was just too soon.
Carry on.
http://news.yahoo.com/warner-bros-cancels-more-world-batman-premieres-160306724.html
Two sides to this decision IMO.
Improbable Dreams said... 13
Flashback to 6 months ago...
"Kate Gosselin may not have to keep up that coupon blog gig for long – tickets for a cruise with the former reality TV mom are reportedly selling just one day after they became available.
On Friday, it was announced that Kate would take to the seas in August for a Royal Caribbean cruise with fans and while many doubted whether travelers would pay to sail with the mother of eight, cabins on the Allure of the Seas ocean liner – ranging from $1,575 to $5,500 per person — are reportedly already being purchased.
“We are getting so many calls, so many e-mails,” Charlene Failla, Luxury Cruises and Tours president, told E! Online, of the interest in their new oceanic venture with Kate."
http://www.accesshollywood.com/pricey-tickets-selling-for-cruise-with-kate-gosselin_article_59078
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Goes to show you how much they WERE LYING!!!!
I think Kate's runs are shorter as they are in daylite. Unlike the R&R LV which was in the dark,it would be very obvious if Kate didn't complete a full marathon under her own steam.
License sorry poor choice of words. Though I thought that phrase referred to wind as in blew me away, not massacres. I'm just not an eggshell walker.
I have a couple of theories and want to see what you all think.
#1- Kate only reads her twitter feed, nothing else (except maybe here sometimes). When sheeple started mentioning the mass shooting, she only glanced at it and tossed her phone off saying 'Well, whatever. That has nothing to do with me and I am muchtoobusyandexhausted etc etc. She STILL might not even be aware of the full horror, and doesnt care to be aware.
#2 - A few weeks ago we were all noting that something was different, sullen, secretive about her tweets. Could this have been a period of time where she had to accept the fact that Stevie was gone gone gone? I guess we will see if he IS gone, by whether or not he is carrying her lipgloss and trotting along side her in Chicago, guarding the Body Gosselin from perspiring runners or kamikazee street squirrels. ~ If Steve is gonegonegone, does this coincide with a one year anniversary of the end of the show? Could TLC have agreed to continue to pay Stevie for one year following the end of the show? Just to shut her up and get rid of her bitchy ass? They had to have known that Stevie and money were the most important things to her, could they have put him on a monthly salary, rather than a per diem? It will be interesting to see if she is running in a group of mediocre folks with Stevie or with Jimbo.
http://news.yahoo.com/warner-bros-cancels-more-world-batman-premieres-160306724.html
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The header for this is misleading. Whoever wrote the headline didn't read the story. It didn't cancel more premieres, but rather the appearances of the filmmaker and cast members. Paris was the only place so far that canceled the actual premiere and that was done early yesterday.
It upsets me that Kate thought it was cute for one of the tup boys to mispronounce a word like a toddler. But that's Kate Gosselin, always trying to keep those tups from growing up. Kate, it's not cute at all. When I was in school at the tups' age, there was a kid who stuttered, and of course, we all had to read out loud. I felt so bad for him because the kids laughed. And it didn't have to be someone who stuttered, just not knowing how to pronounce a word was embarrassing.
I wonder if she even bothered to correct her child.
Though I thought that phrase referred to wind as in blew me away, not massacres.
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It does. It's a colloquialism and means intense, producing strong emotions.
I admit, though, when I read your description, I did think that the choice of words, given the situation, could have been taken as something other than what you meant it to be by someone who takes everything literally.
I will not do anything dangerous (like walk around at night on my own in a dark alley) but I refuse to stop doing activities that SHOULD be safe because of unfortunate, tragic, isolated incidents.
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There is one thing I have stopped doing because of recent incidents. We have been having such a rash of bank robberies lately within a specific area that it would be just my bad luck to walk into a hold-up situation. I'm staying out of banks for awhile. I go through the drive-through.
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I think Kate's runs are shorter as they are in daylite. Unlike the R&R LV which was in the dark,it would be very obvious if Kate didn't complete a full marathon under her own steam.
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Yep. The cover of darkness hides much.
Someone tweeted Kate that her kids are so well-mannered. This was her response:
kateplusmy8
@Z3lliE thanku. I work hard, as all moms do/should do2teach them 2b kind,polite, respectful,&pleasant...:) someXs it works & someXs not;)
Once again, it's "I" do this. How about just saying, "Thanks. Their father and I are proud of their good manners," and just leave it at that?
A blog is a place where a lot of varied people share opinions. There simply can't be situations where everyone agrees on every little thing. Good discussion back and forth is invigorating. But I don't think we should expect everyone to agree on every little point and get upset if they don't. It's just not possible. If someone doesn't agree with you and it's not productive to have an intelligent back and forth conversation about it, just move on. Not everyone can agree all the time. Nor should we.
Has Kate ever run a full marathon in the daylight?
Sorry, I was on vacation at Yellowstone until early this week and am trying to catch up. What is this about Steve being "gone"? What happened to indicate he was no longer "protecting" or "managing" her?
Just curious.
Dwindle, you make a valid point that I had not thought about. I am familiar with employment contracts, and typically you have a clause in that if you are fired before the end of the contract, you get one year's salary as compensation. I don't know if this would be a lump sum or paid out monthly, but Kate could have very well put a clause in that her bodyguard was to be compensated also for one year. I don't recall when the ax fell, but it is coming up on one year. And just because TLC let her go, it did not mean that they did not compensate her. I think she has been living off those proceeds and now will have to go into her hidden accounts. I also believe that Jon got a large settlement when TLC let him go. So, no one should ever believe or think that those two are low on cash. It's a fact and it's a fact that she lies that she has to watch money. It's the way business works with those contracts. It is comforting, though, that she had to have gotten reamed by the IRS.
I for one am not sure that the Batman movie had much to do with this guy's motivation. It could just as easily have been a crowded mega church service, the grand opening of a new mall, or a baseball playoff game. The point is, I think, that he was looking for a contained crowd. A crowd that he could easily slip in and out of with his gear and cause as much destruction as possible in just a few second. Could have been a Twilight movie, or whatever he thought would bring the masses.
Warner Bros is between a rock and a hard place here. There is no 'right' thing to do and every step they take now will be second guessed.They are probably just trying to take a course of least offense. If we all stay home, if we taint this movie for all time, if we taint and lock down our movie theaters in his name, he wins. His name and his actions will live in history books instead of just in the courts and the nightmares of his victims and their loved ones.
And then there is the gun control debate. There are those who are mortified that he legally purchased all these military style assualt weapons and yet there are those who feel strongly that if moviegoers had been openly carrying their own guns then they would have shot down the assailant before he harmed so many people. Another argument is that if he knew is targets would have been armed, it would have deterred him from even carrying out such an act.
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She only ran the 1/2 marathon in San Diego and that was in daylite. The only FULL one was in LV at night. Although I have never done a marathon, I do run. There is no way either she or her two pacers ran the entire 26.21875 miles and crossed the finish line looking fresh as a daisy. She claims exhaustion and collapsing in Ron Dixon's arms but the truth is in the pictures or lack thereof.
I haven't read all of the comments from today, but here's my thought, and this isnt to defend Kate...
I dont twitter, but I do facebook. The tragedy of yesterday is known in my town, and we spoke of it. Many of us have decided NOT to post about it on facebook, or twitter, because we feel it brings to much attention to the offender, and attention whether good or bad... well...is attention. And we do not want to give this guy any attention.
Presently, we do not know what is going on for this guy. Is he a cold hearted ruthless killer, or someone wratched by mental illlness. Neither excuses the behavior, but a mental illness, does once again, show how much more attention we need to pay to the ill, and the battered. When we do not, this is what has become the current trend of crying for help!
So sad...
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Sorry, I was on vacation at Yellowstone until early this week and am trying to catch up. What is this about Steve being "gone"? What happened to indicate he was no longer "protecting" or "managing" her?
Just curious.
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Sillimom, Kate did a brief radio interview at a station about 10 miles from her house, maybe closer. Locals say it is a 15 minute drive. Anyway, she did not have Steve at her side!!! Instead, she proudly mentioned "Officer Jim" her private rent-a-cop for the day who escorted her!! I, for one, didnt think she could strap on her hooker heels without Steve there to tell her which one was left and which one was right, but Officer Jim had the priviledge of spending the entire morning in 'close protection' of the good bra. (I assume there was fear of an Amish uprising, complete with pitchforks; or perhaps a gaggle of 3 preteens pinning her to the concrete in exchange for autographs on the butts of their Cabbage Patch dolls. Risky business, leaving the Konpound without a fully trained and armed purse carrier.)
Dwindle said...Another argument is that if he knew is targets would have been armed, it would have deterred him from even carrying out such an act.
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But he was wearing a bullet proof vest, helmet, something on his legs or boots, so even if the public would have been armed and fired on him, it may not have brought him down.
I just heard that some of the explosives in his apartment have been detonated, and that the door was rigged to kill the first person who opened it. One of the neighbors, hearing the music that was playing over and over again, had gone to his apartment to tell him to turn it down, opened the door just a bit, but decided against going in. If she had opened the door the whole way she would be dead.
Someone was watching over her...
Warner Brothers is not releasing box office numbers this weekend, out of respect to the families of the victims.
meagler, I agree with you. First off, colleges are notorious for ignoring mental illness with their students. There seems to be more proactiveness now because they are afraid of lawsuits, but having a daughter who has worked for years in the mental health field and who suffered with depression in college, mental health is always pushed to the back burner when it comes to support and money. You can bet that his school is busy covering their butts, if indeed, the kid is diagnosed with a mental illness.
ETA followup to abc48.
Should have added two EXPERIENCED pacers and one NOVICE marathoner. Plus their incredible matching times at every split. Something in that race stunk BIG TIME and is an insult to the other runners who trained so hard.
End of rant/vent. Sorry, this just pushes my buttons.
Dwindle that's how I kind of see this movie. It could have been any movie that was out this summer or any summer. It could have been the Spiderman movie. It had to be a movie, and it was this one. It's not fair to everyone who worked so hard on this movie at every level to have it forever tainted. It was a good film.
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@Z3lliE thanku. I work hard, as all moms do/should do2teach them 2b kind,polite, respectful,&pleasant...:) someXs it works & someXs not;)
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There are so many people who have had a hand in raising these children it's just ludicrous for Kate to take credit for their manners. If these kids have good manners it's despite her not because of her.
Also out of curiosity how does this person know anything about their manners? Does she know them personally? We haven't seen them on film in almost a year.
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A blog is a place where a lot of varied people share opinions. There simply can't be situations where everyone agrees on every little thing. Good discussion back and forth is invigorating. But I don't think we should expect everyone to agree on every little point and get upset if they don't. It's just not possible. If someone doesn't agree with you and it's not productive to have an intelligent back and forth conversation about it, just move on. Not everyone can agree all the time. Nor should we.
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Oh I could not agree more and very well said! I LOVE a good exchange of theories, experiences, and facts. Notice I dont say 'opinions'; too many folks (I dont mean here on this blog) just try to pound their 'opinions' and 'this is how i FEEL about this!' into your face all the while shouting or insinuating that YOUR 'opinions' and 'feelings' are stupid and so are you and your life is worthless and you are a boil on the butt of humanity and your mother wears army boots.
But I thrive on a good discussion that can give me food for thought presented in an intelligent manner. I am not good at offering up my viewpoints, but I AM good at receiving others'.
I think the discussion here over the past 24 hours has been respectful, and incredible. Really good food for thought from everyone.
Is it really true that Indianna House has passed a bill that gives homeowners the right to shoot law enforcement officers when the homeowner believes the officers do not have the proper authroity to be on their land? ( ie: no court order?)
I know someone who is a multi-millionaire who still can't say her R's right. Mister sounds like "mista" for example. I don't like though how Kate acts like it's so cute. It's not cute, it can be very embarrassing for both a child and an adult if they still have the issue.
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Dwindle said...Another argument is that if he knew is targets would have been armed, it would have deterred him from even carrying out such an act.
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But he was wearing a bullet proof vest, helmet, something on his legs or boots, so even if the public would have been armed and fired on him, it may not have brought him down.
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Completely agree. Also, I dont think that he was too concerned about his personal safety in all of this. His combat gear may merely have been a costume to him or simply designed to keep him alive long enough to inflict as much harm as possible.
In my post above, I was trying hard not to show my preference in the gun control debate. However, if HE was able to purchase all this stuff legally, so were most of the movie goers. Nothing is stopping an armed movie goer from carrying a gun in purse or backback for 'self defense'. That little sticker on the entrance door about 'no weapons allowed' means nothing. Whoever feels the urge in this country to carry a concealed weapon for their 'own protection' certainly has the ability to do so. And that possiblity did not slow down this mass murderer.
I don't know how gun control laws work but what I don't understand is why he was able to purchase so much ammo, guns and others supplies(the things in his apartment) without any cross-check being done. Considering the amount of ammo he had, wouldn't red flags have been sent up somewhere? Authorites were able to find all this info after the fact-why wasn't it noticed before?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 54
Dwindle that's how I kind of see this movie. It could have been any movie that was out this summer or any summer. It could have been the Spiderman movie. It had to be a movie, and it was this one. It's not fair to everyone who worked so hard on this movie at every level to have it forever tainted. It was a good film.
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A lot of focus is given to the over paid big name stars and producers, but there are thousands of ordinary working folks who put a great deal of work and artistry into these things, as you know Admin. One of my sons-in-law is a sound engineer for a very famous country performer, both live sound and studio sound. I know it isnt the same as a movie, but my SIL works hard and takes a lot of pride in the good results at the end of a concert or show. He makes a livable salary, nothing more. My daughter still has to work, plus the sacrifice of him being on the road so much during tours. I cant imagine him working all winter in the studio on a new album only to be told it would never be released or such.
Twit@61... Considering the amount of ammo he had, wouldn't red flags have been sent up somewhere?
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The strange thing in all of this is that he was able to enter the movie theater. Supposedly he stashed his stuff by a side exit, bought a ticket, got his seat (witnesses) went out through the exit door, got the guns, tear gas, and went back in. Nobody seems to know whether he had propped open the door or if it was unlocked. It was reported that usually there is extra security on duty for an opening show, but for some reason, there was none. I wonder if the 6,000 rounds of ammunition was to take out security, anticipating a shoot-out with law enforcement.
Mike Brooks, formerly with the FBI said that the purchase of the guns and ammunition was done over a period of time, and therefore he didn't buy the 6,000 rounds all at one time. I guess because of this, it didn't raise red flags and it was done on the internet. He obviously knew where to buy it so it wasn't cross-checked. There are some "shady" places out there.
The weapons included a semiautomatic rifle, a .223-caliber assault-style rifle with a 100-round drum magazine.
"The suspect also had two .40-caliber Glock handguns and a 12-gauge Remington Model 870 pump shotgun.
In the past 60 days, police said, Holmes bought more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition, at gun shops and over the Internet, including:
3,000 rounds of .223-caliber ammunition for the rifle. It was described as an AR-15-type weapon built by Smith and Wesson.
3,000 rounds of .40-caliber ammunition for the Glock handguns.
300 rounds for the shotgun."
They did lie though when just before it was canceled Cindy told everyone to hurry only a few rooms were left. That was a flat out lie given that they couldn't even meet Kate's bare minimum expectations before she would go.
I wonder when is Kate going to leave for the marathon or is she not going to run it.
What I wonder about gun control is in a country like ours that has a huge group of people who believe very strongly in the right to bear arms, how restricting guns anymore than we already do will make a difference. I say this because we have made most drugs illegal but believe me we still have a huge drug problem in this country. Just like during prohibition, which was a massive failure, people got alcohol anyway.
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That's what amazes me, is how he was able to purchase so much ammo without it going noticed. But I guess as long as the requirements of the law, background checks(which showed nothing)etc. are met, some places like that don't question anything else. Another thing I wonder about is if he made these purchases with a credit card, wouldn't that have triggered something? But then again I don't know much about credit card companies actually tracking specific purchases.
Hopefully, now that they are gaining access to his apartment, they will eventually gain access to his computer and perhaps learn more about the reasons he did this.
There are many many questions-I just hope that in the days to come more and more answers will be given.
If KK's kids are kind, polite, respectful and pleasant,it is despite her, not because of her. How many times have we seen her be unkind, impolite, disrespectful and unpleasant, including to her own children? Hey Kate -- children learn by example!
I've been thinking about whether I want to say anything about the Colorado tragedy. It just seems that anything I want to say is trite and shallow. It's going to take a very long time before the victims recover any sense of security, if they ever do. My prayers are with them and their families.
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"They did lie though when just before it was canceled Cindy told everyone to hurry only a few rooms were left. That was a flat out lie given that they couldn't even meet Kate's bare minimum expectations before she would go."
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The whole cruise was based on deception and avoiding the disclosure of what should have been basic information available on the website. I guess she figured that one lie wouldn't matter. At that point she was grasping at straws. Didn't she know that, if the cruise was cancelled, she'd be called out on this lie (which she was)?
I said it was the cynic in me that I came to that conclusion. I did not say that the family who spoke of the tragedy spoke to the theater employees, I just said my daughter only heard one family make a comment about it- They could have been talking amongst each other. I dont normally have negative thoughts, these came after reading comments on the news- people were saying why should the showings stop and why should they miss the movie premier? So I dont come to these judgements quickly, or without basis. I do usually, as a habit, look for the positive side of people, which is why I often have a dissenting opinion on Kate and I will find a positive about her- like her running :)
Here we go again. He'll be keeping this up for the next several hours...
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Can every1 just take a few minutes to follow & support @Kateplusmy8 & get her to 100,000 followers she is a good person being treat unfairly
I wonder if Ellen DeGeneres answered his plea!!
Butterfly I think where the assumption is coming in is because you are assuming people who don't want to miss the premiere don't care.
As explained here some people feel very strongly that the right thing to do is actually to NOT change your plans. Others feel different and both takes are valid and have their points IMO. Sort of like how I know people who hopped right on a plane after 9/11 and went on planned vacations or business trips because otherwise they felt like the terrorists were dictating how they live their lives. I know there are people who would say how could you relax on the beach in Hawaii after this--well because those vacation goers don't want someone else having such power that they cancel things like that.
What I'm trying to say is don't assume just because someone still wants to live their life normally means they don't care. It just means they believe in living their life normally.
@ Butterfly - I love your avatar. Could you please post a link to where you got it? I like it very much. I promise not to use it here, of course it is your's.
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That's what amazes me, is how he was able to purchase so much ammo without it going noticed. But I guess as long as the requirements of the law, background checks(which showed nothing)etc. are met, some places like that don't question anything else. Another thing I wonder about is if he made these purchases with a credit card, wouldn't that have triggered something? But then again I don't know much about credit card companies actually tracking specific purchases.
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The Patriot Act (passed in 2001 and poorly named, in my opinion) tracks what books we check out of the library, what sites we visit on our computers, allowed wiretapping without restraint, yet doesnt track mega purchases of arms and ammo. So... was it all just Thought Police, not physical protection for citizens?
I sound argumentative today, dont I? Sorry, 15 Min-ners. We are having 3 other couples over tonight and they are great debaters about these kinds of things (Well, all except Don, that is) so i will take my frustrations out on them, not you.
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She only ran the 1/2 marathon in San Diego and that was in daylite. The only FULL one was in LV at night. Although I have never done a marathon, I do run. There is no way either she or her two pacers ran the entire 26.21875 miles and crossed the finish line looking fresh as a daisy. She claims exhaustion and collapsing in Ron Dixon's arms but the truth is in the pictures or lack thereof.
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I will admit I now have doubts about Kate running the full marathon- after having defended her- and for exactly why you stated- looking fresh as a daisy at the finish. Now that I have taken to longer distances, I am a complete WRECK when my run is over, and I am not the only one. The other runners are's too fresh, either :)
There's no stinking way, judging by the photos, she ran the entire length of the course. I think the shuttle picked her up for part of the course.
Dwindle, thanks for highlighting all the hundreds of thousands of hard working people who work on these films. I have a friend who worked on Chris Nolan's film Inception on the production side. He is trying to make it in a certain segment of production that is very small and hard to work your way up. He currently makes about ten grand a year. He cuts corners wherever he can to pursue his dream. The dirty little secret in Hollywood is that most people in the business make hardly anything and just do it for the love of film. I cannot imagine all his hard work being flushed down the drain because of some psychopath. That's not right.
Chris Nolan, by the way is a great guy according to him. And his nice wife.
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Tamara I know it's popular to blame American laws when these things happen but what about the recent Toronto shootings? Canada is supposed to have such great gun control but couldn't stop that. I subscribe to guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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The Toronto shooting was a rare occurrence, whereas the Colorado shooting was one of dozens just in 2012. Yes, people kill people. But people with guns kill TWICE as many people than are killed/wounded by ANY OTHER way. There is absolutely no need for people to own automatic weapons and bodyarmour piercing rounds. Or to stockpile ammunition.
Hi, haven't read all but I live in the Chicago suburbs and we're having hot, humid weather here. I havent' heard anything about "Kate" being here and that we should probably have "extra police coverage for all the fans she'll have". Tomorrow it's supposed to be in the 90's, can't imagine too much enthusiam for this "mini marathon" that she'd doing. I don't wish any ill will if there are charities profitting from this race. Chicago does just fine with all the runs they have without "Kate Gosselin" being involved. I would bet that if you asked 99% of the participants in this race who "Kate" was, they wouldn't know and wouldn't care.
I have never believed she ran the whole marathon in LV. It's too suspicious that she is now just doing these short runs in the daytime. She is a scammer and Steve is right in there with her.
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I will admit I now have doubts about Kate running the full marathon- after having defended her- and for exactly why you stated- looking fresh as a daisy at the finish.
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I just had a hilarious visual of Steve trotting beside her, powdering her nose, fixing her mascara, touching up her lipgloss, holding a mirror in front of her trotting face so she could comb her hair every 5 minutes, spritzing her hair with spray, perhaps a battery operated flat iron... Steve handing her premoistend wipes to wash up ever 1/4 mile, a large powder puff continously powdering Her Royal Personage with a proprietary blend of organic cornstarch and scented herbs, as she lifts each armpit on a regular basis for Steve to keep washed and fresh deodorant on... On every mile marker, he spritzes her with fresh lavender water... "STEEEEEVVVEEEE!!!!! LEADDDDDDD MEEEEE!!! Spritz me! Powder me! Deodorize me!!!CARRY MEEEEEE!!!!!!"
It is logical she stopped during the race because Steve was following in a golf cart. She stopped running and he probably drove for some distance while she reapplied her makeup because she knew there would be pictures at the finish line. Those so-called lady friends were needed to vouch that she ran the whole race. I wonder if they got paid ? I think plenty of people in Kate's circle have been paid off.
Well Octo-mom seems to have a boyfriend so there's no reason why Kate can't find one.-lol
Tamara I agree about automatic weapons. As far as Canada goes, I don't know if you can say for sure it's gun control that is why you don't have as many shootings. In any case you can own a gun in Canada so it's not like they have a no guns ever law. The reason Canada has less crime is very complex and in my opinion has little to do with gun laws. There's a lot of things that come into play, demographics being a big one. Cultural differences: Americans solve things with their fists, Canadians generally stay out of conflict. Also you don't have nearly anywhere close to the population that the U.S. has, so of course there will be less mass shootings.
In fact population wise I think one mass shooting for the population versus 12 for U.S.'s population is actually MORE shootings in Canada than the U.S., percentage wise, if that makes sense.
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@LisaAllsmiles one night I'll cook, the next you, ok? Sign us up!;) about an hour ago
Has anyone noticed that many of the people tweeting kate, like this LisaALLLsmiles, tweet famous people like they know them?
I noticed this with another guy who asked for a retweet from kate for a sick sister. He tweeted the same tweet trying to get a retweet from any celb. who would reply.
I think that most of these sheeple just get their jollies getting a response from them. I don't know, I think they may like having bragging rights to say they are friends with them.
It's crazy, you should check them out. Especially the ones asking for retweets.
The Patriot Act is the finest example of how dangerous it is to change the way we live our lives because of fear. Fear can keep you safe but it can also do very bad things to our freedoms.
@Z3lliE thanku. I work hard, as all moms do/should do2teach them 2b kind,polite, respectful,&pleasant...:) someXs it works & someXs not;) about 2 hours ago
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WTF? From someone who couldn't find a half dozen word in her vast vocabulary to express her feelings yesterday, she sure perked up and found some when a sheeple tossed a compliment her way.
And took all the credit.
Re: death by firearms
In Canada 32% of all homicides are caused by firearms. In the U.S. 67.5% of all homocides are caused by firearms.
Still, laws are only obeyed by law-abiding citizens. If someone wants to murder people they'll find a way to do it. There's still bick lighters and gasoline on every corner.
It would also be a cinch to wipe out a whole city with a little botulism in the town's water supply.
We can't go around in haz-mat suits and helmets all our lives. I'd rather live with what freedoms we have than let the government have more control over me than they already have - which is too much as it is.
Well, as I posted earlier, it really looks as if CC is not paying extra for extra days for Kate to be in Chicago, and any publicity or promo, Kate thought CC was going to do must have fallen through. CC must have noticed that Kate is not as popular as Kate had lead on. And just cause she has near 100,000 tweeters,( Which can be bought) does not mean they are real fans. Kate really has only 30 or less fans. The number that signed up for the cruise and maybe 10 more are how many fans she really has. The 100,000 was miss leading. CC is only going to pay for Kate, not for security detail, police escort, or even a fancy hotel, if they do a fancy hotel it looks like one night, possibly 2. Kate is not on any scheduled local TV show, here in Chicago. I guess CC is not doing any promos. Kate though might be on the local news.
Did Kate (and CC) think Paige would come to Chicago to watch her run? Or Leigh, the one who met up with her in Missouri? Or Austin? For pete's sake, the only people who are going to show up to a 3 mile run in Chicago are the people who live near Chicago. And Kate. Any expectations of more are delusional daydreams.
Chefsummer, are you sharing an opinion about Kate not being paid for this, or have you found some information about it? I am guessing you are right about it, either way. Kate's travel,
hotel and meals might be on CC's tab, but I doubt she's getting an extra dime. Her blog entries have already wasted a good deal of the wages they've paid her. Whatever they are paying her for that trash is way too much.
RE: contract with TLC. Yes, I agree she has likely received a year's severence pay, which is now coming to a close. Funny how that time flies by, huh Kate? It's time to go to work now.
oops, my last post was to Anger issues, not to chefsummer. Sorry.
If I were into running which I'm not I'd sign up for these races then run slightly ahead of Kate with a t-shirt that says on the back: Get...a....JOB!!!!!
Wow, 6 months since the cruise was announced...just for fun, I took a look in the archives of one of the sheeple blogs, and it was some fun reading, especially knowing how the cruise situation turned out. They all were wishing that the "haters" would just fess up to how incredibly jealous we all were that Kate was going to host a cruise and make money doing it. They thought all the jealousy was hysterically funny. I think the fact that she only booked about 30 people, total, is hysterically funny. I could get more than 30 people to go on a cruise like that--but then, I have family and friends. Does that mean I'm more famous than Kate?
As for the "kind", "polite", "respectful" kids-we are talking about the same kids who called Jamie's kids "ugly' and "stupid", aren't we? Some of those "kind", "polite", "respectful" kids were expelled for bullying. Kate needs to stop and think before she pats herself on the back.
As for the tragedy yesterday--I think Kate heard about it, thought, "What does that have to do with ME?", and never gave it another thought.
Wow, 6 months since the cruise was announced...just for fun, I took a look in the archives of one of the sheeple blogs, and it was some fun reading, especially knowing how the cruise situation turned out. They all were wishing that the "haters" would just fess up to how incredibly jealous we all were that Kate was going to host a cruise and make money doing it. They thought all the jealousy was hysterically funny.
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Which is so funny since so many people here know a lot about cruises because they GO ON THEM, me only once but some people have been on dozens. And yet at the end of the day here we are and who has been on one cruise or more, and who still has not? Point to us, zero Kate.
I googled "coupon cabin chicago minimarathon" and found this coupon cabin post dated 6/19/12.
http://mydailydiscountsinusa.blogspot.com/2012/06/help-wanted.html
First, there is a help wanted post for a blogger-which was kind of interesting. Then there is a blurb about the mini marathon:
"Are you in the Chicago area? Are you a runner? You can sign up for the Rock 'N' Roll mini marathon in Chicago and run with CouponCabin staffers, including Kate Gosselin. On Sunday, July 22nd at 6:30am join us to get fit and have fun.
So no "former reality star" just a "staffer". I would think if Kate even wanted to back out she couldn't, because it's part of her "job" to run in this race.
I don't understand why Kate fans can use Twitter, but don't know how to google. Does this one really expect Kate to do what she requested?
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@Kateplusmy8 I'm on a vacation diet for 2 wks, can u please post on ur site a few typical meals for me? Plz ! :) thnx!! Xoxo
What's a vacation diet?
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If I were into running which I'm not I'd sign up for these races then run slightly ahead of Kate with a t-shirt that says on the back: Get...a....JOB!!!!!
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Love it!! If only someone would do that.
Admin-beats me. Maybe she's going on vacation in 2 weeks, and wants to lose weight before she goes.
Hmm, Milo is slipping. I thought she knew everything and anything about Kate or what Kate is doing. Someone should inform her there is no full marathon in Chicago. It's just a half and the mini.
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@Kateplusmy8 Glad ur not runnin the full marathon in that heat! Ur tennis shoes will melt! Not 2mention danger of heat exhaustion/dehydratn!
Oh geez. Well you can't do much in just two weeks. I know, why not just go on vacation and not worry about your muffin top. Kate encourages women to have unhealthy obsessions with their bodies.
AuntieAnne that kind of proves my point that people kill people, not guns, knives, poison or whatever. People who want to kill figure out a way to kill where guns are not available. I'm surprised there is not more outcry to help these people on a mental health level. Instead of trying to take away the tools that they use, which is a losing battle, we should be far better at recognizing when someone is going off the deep end and intervening before it's too late.
I could tell you stories about how the mentally ill are treated by those supposed to help them.
Here I am doing homework and what comes on H2 channel? Jonestown documentary.
LOL....seems like we were just talking about this.
I posted the other day on FB if I should reenlist and many of my friends replied- don't drink the kool-aid. Bunch of smarty pants.
Looks like one of the sheeple had to drop out of the race-I think that now leaves 2.
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@Kateplusmy8 (says error on original tweet) I rolled my ankle:have to see orthopedic. No running! Would love to do coffee or dinner.
Yeah right-Kate's going to meet her for dinner. There's no guarantee she would've even met Kate if she were running.
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I know someone who is a multi-millionaire who still can't say her R's right. Mister sounds like "mista" for example. I don't like though how Kate acts like it's so cute. It's not cute, it can be very embarrassing for both a child and an adult if they still have the issue.
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Oh the dreaded r's! There are entire books and treatments devoted just to r. Part of the problem is that there are so many variations. For example, the r in "read" is produced differently than the r in "great." Say those two words and notice where the r is produced in your mouth. It's affected by the sounds around it. Some people bunch up their tongues to make r, and some people curl back (retroflex) their tongues. It's amazing anyone gets it right! And NOT saying it correctly sounds like baby talk (or Elmer Fudd!).
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The Patriot Act is the finest example of how dangerous it is to change the way we live our lives because of fear. Fear can keep you safe but it can also do very bad things to our freedoms
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the PA, FISA, FAA and the like allow me to do my job. It may look Big-Brother-ish, but I GUARANTEE you, we are not interested in average, everyday citizens!! We dont have the time or manpower to track everyone, and, not to be rude, why would we want to? LOL. So yes, there is a loss of some liberty, but it is for a good reason. It is doing what it is meant to do. Many more innocent civilians would be hurt or dead if we didn't implement those policies. Sorry, but thought I would share since I have an inside view of how this stuff actually works and I see the results. You guys are safer for it. Your lives haven't changed too much- so I think it's a win-win :)
It's not fair to everyone who worked so hard on this movie at every level to have it forever tainted. It was a good film.
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I don't think anyone wants the film 'tainted'. Or maybe some do, i don't know. I just find it incredibly glib to see a ridiculous movie the day DIRECTLY after such a tragedy.
I know you said you paid for your tickets in advance. Couldn't you give up your $25 bucks to show respect for the dead? Lawyers make lots of money so the excuse that you prepaid for your tickets doesn't wash. It seems insensitive to other bloggers here.
I guess it comes off as....glib....to use a page from Tom Cruise.
And the 'mind blowing' comment was really kinda harsh. I know I have to remind myself to think before pressing send. It's a good reminder.
I'm sure you wouldn't be getting so many polarizing comments if you hadn't been so polarizing yourself.
I'm really trying to be respectful here and just explain some of our's mindset here. My mindset, I guess.
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It's not fair to everyone who worked so hard on this movie at every level to have it forever tainted. It was a good film.
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I don't think anyone wants the film 'tainted'. Or maybe some do, i don't know. I just find it incredibly glib to see a ridiculous movie the day DIRECTLY after such a tragedy
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So agreeing with you! One day- wait one day.
That other comment, it's not fair for those who worked on the film to have it tainted?? WTF? How about it's not fair to get killed watching it? That's not fair. So the movie will be tainted- BFD compared to what the families of the deceased are forever going to be tainted with- loss of a loved one! And what about the children who may need counseling after this? What about their tainted memory? Time for some perspective. Not to be rude, truly, a movie compared to human lives. There is no comparison. It's a movie- for entertainment. That's all it is.
Now I am waiting for the lawsuits against the theater for not enough security and letting that guy in. I love this country.
Oh, sorry Admin. I never thought you were polarizing. ;-)
Geez, just when I said this blog was such a great place to share opinions! Good bye lurker, you won't be missed.
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As for the "kind", "polite", "respectful" kids-we are talking about the same kids who called Jamie's kids "ugly' and "stupid", aren't we? Some of those "kind", "polite", "respectful" kids were expelled for bullying. Kate needs to stop and think before she pats herself on the back.
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Totally agree and there are many more examples on their 'memories' show tapes...also Kate the Great so rude, disrespectful and mean.
Just a small note, admin: the school shooting in the 60s was at the University of Texas, not Texas A&M.
For the record, I don't feel Admin is polarizing, either. We all have our opinions, and she states hers and happens to run this place. We just happened to have found an issue (or two) that no matter where we might have been posting, we would have been 'polarized' on it. Know what I mean? It isn't this board specifically, we just happen to be here discussing. This has been a nice break from boring Kate, but for such a sad reason. Oh well.
I understand that people have differing opinions about a lot of subjects discussed here, but overall the discussions have always been very respectful.
The shootings in CO are very recent, emotions are raw and perhaps people are feeling a need to express their outrage and sadness.
Also, I've always connected the phrase 'mindblowing' with LSD. Not from personal experience; just because of when I came of age.
I'm not sure you people saying Admin. is polarizing even know the definition of the word.
"Tom", I apologized for using the wrong choice of words, which quite frankly doesn't even mean what was suggested but nonetheless, poor choice.
It's been explained to you ad naueum why many people who care VERY MUCH chose not to let this psychopath change the way we live. I refuse to believe the thousands upon thousands of people who go to this movie don't care. It's not possible. Everyone I've ever talked to about this cares, including everyone here, including me. I have to believe that's representative.
Personally, I think it's insulting to judge so harshly how someone chooses to cope with something horrible and to suggest that they don't care. Know what? It's hurtful, because I DO care. And FYI, not every lawyer is making Bruce Wayne kind of money. I have a normal lifestyle.
Polorizing to sheeple Tweet means we don't like Kate. Poloraizing means heaven forbid not everyone toes the party line and doesn't have to agree with every darn thing.
Most people here have been very respectful and this has been a fantastic discussion.
I actually think it's good to have discussions in which strong individuals take positions at all angles of an argument. Yes, they can be polarizing--It's hard to be objective when some of our communication styles (our perspectives) are so different. But when disagreements occur in the context of a self-select group like this one (individuals with shared interests), they provide us with opportunities for growth.
I do think tone counts for something. So does word choice. But in the end, we're working toward a common purpose. I try to be mindful of that.
Thus concludes my sermonette o' the day, lol
Some people feel that any kind of spirited debate is too much to handle. Their perspective is that debate is personal when for others it's really not. For instance I couldn't disagree more with a few of Butterfly's comments but I think she's great and a wonderful addition here and look forward to her take on things.
It's BORING when we all agree. That's what the sheeple do. I want spirited debate here. I don't want a groupthink thing. If that's what you want there are some lovely sheeple sites out there for you.
Oops, Anonymous at 115 = me.
Oh and speaking of Butterfly that's exactly right I doubt you'd see people debating the same things in any other manner across the web.
In fact a friend of mine posted on Facebook "I can't believe there was a baby at this midnight show" and one of her friends replied, "12 people are dead and all you can do is judge someone's parenting?!"
I was like WHOA stay away from that one! :)
The point being as you said it's normal to feel very charged right now and it's not personal or "polarizing" in my opinion.
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Polorizing to sheeple Tweet means we don't like Kate. Poloraizing means heaven forbid not everyone toes the party line and doesn't have to agree with every darn thing.
Most people here have been very respectful and this has been a fantastic discussion.
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I agree. The sheeple seem extremely one-dimensional don't they? Perhaps they've not been able to follow varying points of view.
On another note: What time is the Mini(scule) Marathon tomorrow?
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I was just about to post the same thoughts. In sheepleland, no matter how respectfully you disagree with them or a point they make you're automatically labelled a "hater".
Differing opinions may not make anyone change their mind about a certain topic, but it does make you think more on the subject and understand another person's point of view.
Which President - George W. Bush or George H. W. Bush? Which tragic events? There were plenty to choose from. Our nation's leader at the time asked us to go on with our lives, not huddle in our homes, because that would show that America runs from fear. He said that we would not be weakened or cowed by these random acts of violence, so go to the movies, go out to dinner, take your kids to the pool, etc.
Has she tweeted about this marathon at ALL the past few days? I keep forgetting when it even is because she never mentions it. God knows where she is, I assume in Chicago by now but where's the tweet???
Shouldn't you sort of try to get people excited about it, this is when you DO tweet as a celeb.
Polorizing to sheeple Tweet means we don't like Kate. Poloraizing means heaven forbid not everyone toes the party line and doesn't have to agree with every darn thing.
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Right. So because I believe giving up seeing a ridiculous movie for one night to show repsect totally means I love Kate Gosselin.
Huh? Also, haven't you said posts that start off as "you people" aren't going to get posted?
I was very respectful in my above post. I ask the same in return.
If you are feeling 'hurt' maybe that's an indication that you feel guilt. Nothing wrong with that. We all make mistakes.
As Kate would say "Have a nice day!" LOL
Fido virtually every leader after terrible times has urged America to be strong and go on. I don't see that Obama specifically said that but he did say "“This weekend I hope everyone takes some time for prayer and reflection – for the victims of this terrible tragedy." Not don't go to the movies or turn your life upside down, just take some time. I'm sure many people have, whether they went to the movies too anyway or not. Obama has said a lot about how this campaign is about FEAR vs. HOPE. Even Kennedy's most famous speech was the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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It would be boring if we all agreed and spewed groupthink.
Usually I am not this spirited- too tired for that kind of stuff- this tragedy just came right after a friend died less than two weeks ago, in his sleep- how does that happen? So I guess I am at my fill of death. Sorry guys. I am trying to get back to my normally boring self. Now back to my paper, which, had the word 'group think' but in relation public policy :) It's too bad I couldn't have made that run tomorrow- I was so looking forward to running with Kate!!! And getting diet tips!!!!! And having my pic taken with her!!!!!! Maybe I'll see in PA in October, LOL
As Kate would say "Have a nice day!" LOL
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Maybe I'll see in PA in October, LOL
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Call it a hunch, or maybe her own track record, but I predict she won't be running by then.
Thanks, actually, I don't know if there is a answer. I don't know if going to the movies is the right thing. No one does. I made a choice. I was judged very harshly for it, but it was hardly an unpopular choice given how many people did the same thing. You can choose to go to the movies or choose not to, which is what I said before, and in my opinion neither one is a BAD choice, it's just a choice. But a lot of people weren't going to go ANYWAY so they are hardly martyrs of grief for staying at home. What if they stayed at home and watched Bridges of Madison County and escaped for awhile, is that okay? Maybe we should all light candles and hold hands and sing Amazing Grace for three days. Maybe if you are in such grief you shouldn't be browsing blogs trying to see how others do it. Shut down your internet out of respect. See how ridiculous this gets? Where do you draw the line?? No matter, I'm not judging how people cope. Cope how you want, I'm not going to accuse anyone of not caring.
Not sure why you can't just accept that not everyone grieves in the exact same way as you.
Because everyone's life is turned upside down by not seeing the premiere of a Batman movie.
First world problems can be so difficult, can't they?
Admin-Kate only mentioned the race when someone mentioned they were running. Now that person has pulled out. I think one or 2 others are going.
The race starts at 6:30 am CT tomorrow. Run Rock & Roll has a FB page for the half marathon, but there's really no mention of the mini marathon.
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The Patriot Act is the finest example of how dangerous it is to change the way we live our lives because of fear. Fear can keep you safe but it can also do very bad things to our freedoms.
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Ha! Ironically, it's the very people who govern our freedoms who are keeping us "in fear." It's such a joke -- and a manipulation. "Threat Con Delta"!!!!! Yes, dear government, keep us afraid of the Boogyman (in current news, that would be the Middle East), so that we continue to support whatever current war/crusade you are on for your own financial/political gain. My husband is a Naval Officer who's been to the Mid-East twice -- and these cluster-f*cks that we're calling "wars" have NOTHING to do with defending our "freedoms." Just as our occupation of Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9-11. bid Laden was the one to go after for 9-11, yet it took over 10 years for that to happen. Anyone wonder why???? Freedoms my ass.
And @butterfly ... While the Patriot Act may help you in your job, whatever that may be, AND, while it may currently only be used to police potential terrorist threats, the language of the Act permits the government to do things that have previously violated citizens' civil rights. So, YES, it doesn't "seem" Big-Brother-ish when applied to terrorists, but the reality is, it IS Big Brotherish. It doesn't matter that the government isn't currently "enforcing" it on average citizens -- the PROBLEM is that the Patriot Act allows for the government to infringe on a citizen's privacy any time the government may decide to do so. The Patriot Act is just Martial Law in everything but name. The government can do whatever it wants without being reviewed by the Justice Department. Jeez, do we even live in a democrasy anymore????
WWF what did YOU do to mourn this tragedy? Please enlighten us what is the correct way to go about this. You don't want people to go to a movie, but you're fine to be very cruel to those same people. Is that how we honor victims, by cutting others down?
Funny I said before this happened if anything ever happens to me I wouldn't mind if people want to laugh. Same goes for this. Please, go to the movies if anything ever happens to me. Go to 10 movies. To assume the victims would want anyone to change a single thing about their lives assumes quite a lot. How do we know they aren't horrified to see some Americans wanting life to grind to a screeching halt.
Butterfyl can I get it in writing that the Patriot Act won't ever look at me? :)
Grift I agree with you, the Patriot Act is freaking scary and I'm sticking to my story. Government IS run by fear and they'll push some more gun control laws through that won't work on the backs of this tragedy based on that fear.
Yeah right-Kate's going to meet her for dinner. There's no guarantee she would've even met Kate if she were running.
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Not only does she think that she and Kate are friends, but she's also pestered to meet up with Deanna in New York. These sheeple are so amusing, better than most television programming.
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@deannatweeting Hubs & I are planning a long weekend in August to NY!!! Trying to figure out dates. While there we MUST do coffee!!
democracy. Hit "publish" too soon! Apologize for any other spelling mistakes -- typing while enraged is never a good combination! lol.
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The race starts at 6:30 am CT tomorrow. Run Rock & Roll has a FB page for the half marathon, but there's really no mention of the mini marathon.
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Lots of vendors hawking their wares (as with the SD and LV marathons), but I haven't noticed anyone from R&R Chicago tweeting @Kateplusmy8 directly, inviting her to stop by their booths. No back-and-forth tweets of any kind, in fact.
Slowly but surely, her 15 minutes are ticking toward Zero.
Fidomommy: CC is a business not like TLC, they will only function like other businesses, only pay for the day, of in this case the race, just like LV convention, they went to, only the convention length(hotel, travel, food maybe, event fee, nothing else) no extra days, no special rooms, maybe plane fare, no police escort or bodyguard, for Kate. If Kate wants extra, it comes out of her pocket, not CC. Now for Chicago, it looks like CC is only paying for 1-2 nights hotel and maybe planefare, food. Anything else Kate wants comes out of her pocket. Kates wants bodyguard, police escort, spa(extras) her own pocket. The free ride is over. Kates past appearances, Kate always went early and stayed late, (like almost a week) As for TV appearances, CC has not made any so far for Kate, or done any commercials with Kate in them to promo the race and/or CC. Which is kind of odd. I think Kate's PR got her the job with CC, in the thinking that Kate would do commercials for CC, TV appearances, and be their spokes person. Kate has worked there a year and the only promo(for the CC APP that kate was there to do that she didn't, that interview that was suppose to be about CC, that Kate turn to be about herself) she did not promo CC. Every interview, Kate does not even promo CC, Kate uses the CC blog for her own means, not promo CC or alert people to coupons or bargins in stores or online. CC is doing the bare min for Kate for this race(that is if they are picking up the bill), no lavish nothing, like TLC did. I think Kate was expecting to do TV, radio and spoke person for CC, CC maybe having second thoughts. This is just common sense info, from Kates travels this past year. Businesses today are somewhat tight with money, they will only pay for their event/sponser time, anything else (extras), that's your concern. I don't think she is getting a pay check for this, just the hotel, planefare and promises of maybe TV appearance(local TV)hopefully not! I don't want to see her mug. Kate is not scheduled for this one local TV show on monday. So it looks as if Kate flys in tonight, or a little earlier, does race, sleeps sunday night, and flys home monday(maybe a trip to CC office on monday)possibly tuesday fly home. No more, thursday to wednesday trips. CC is not TLC.
I believe it was Franklin Roosevelt that said the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. Kennedy said ..ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country.
I wonder if CC is using this run to see how much attention Kate brings to them. They can see how many people she draws to the event, and figure out whether it is cost-effective for them to keep her around. They already know that it's a waste of their time/money to put her on TV to promote them. They send her to NYC/LA, and all she does is beg for a new show, with barely a mention of CC. The higher-ups should be really insulted/angry. Kate has made it clear that she doesn't think CC is worth her time, and the attitude does not reflect well on them. People might read her blog (does anyone still read her blog?), but do they actually use CC's services? Her fans don't seem to have much cash to spare. I think a few of them have bought Bella Bars, but I'd be surprised if they continue to buy them. They're expensive. Kate may have signed a contract with CC, but I'd be surprised if they renew it come November. If they were smart, they'd call her into the offices while she's in Chicago tomorrow and give her the boot. Nothing is worse than paying someone to act like your company is crap.
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Thanks, actually, I don't know if there is a answer. I don't know if going to the movies is the right thing. No one does. I made a choice. I was judged very harshly for it, but it was hardly an unpopular choice given how many people did the same thing. You can choose to go to the movies or choose not to, which is what I said before, and in my opinion neither one is a BAD choice, it's just a choice. But a lot of people weren't going to go ANYWAY so they are hardly martyrs of grief for staying at home. What if they stayed at home and watched Bridges of Madison County and escaped for awhile, is that okay? Maybe we should all light candles and hold hands and sing Amazing Grace for three days. Maybe if you are in such grief you shouldn't be browsing blogs trying to see how others do it. Shut down your internet out of respect. See how ridiculous this gets? Where do you draw the line?? No matter, I'm not judging how people cope. Cope how you want, I'm not going to accuse anyone of not caring.
Not sure why you can't just accept that not everyone grieves in the exact same way as you.
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I am praying for strength for the families of the victims. But, I am not going to grieve for people that I dont know. I dont understand why random strangers are getting so upset because I am not grieving for the victims. I have no ties with the town, the theater or the people. Why would anyone expect me to sit at home and cry over this? I have better things to spend my emotional energy on like dealing with generalized anxiety disorder. In some ways, I wonder if people get over emotional about these events to let out the depression or sadness that they have been bottling up from their own lives. My other theory is that fear is driving their knee jerk response.
Its a tragedy, but its not going to stop me from going on with my daily life. I am not going to see the movie because I am not a batman fan.
Why didn't Kate post a link for her Bella Bars on CC, with the offer for free shipping? I bet it's because she has no intention of sharing "her" offer with CC. They must get some pay for each coupon code, and she refuses to share with them. Just like her infamous "nobody makes money off my kids but me", she is thinking that, "nobody makes money off my Bella Bars but me". It doesn't bother her a bit that she has screwed over CC time and again (and taken their money in the process), she only thinks of herself. That entitled attitude is what is going to ruin her in the long run, but she does not have the ability to consider the consequences of her actions. By the time reality hits her, it will be too late.
No tweets in 7 hours. She must be flying to Chicago. She'll get up, run, and be on a plane back home tomorrow, I'll bet. No long vacation for her! I bet she's pi**ed. Reality is just beginning to bite her in the arse. It will only get worse. Can't wait to see it unfold.
There is a terrific new CD from Texas blues rocker Ray Wiley Hubbard entitled ”The Grifters Hymnal”. The dh and I saw Ray Wiley last month at Ashland Coffee and Tea in Virginia. Great songwriter, great singer. Best song on the CD is Mother Blues, an autobiographical song about a music club in Dallas. Last line of the song is so fantastic and applicable here:
” on the days where I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, I have really good days”.
Ray Wiley is now one of my favorite songwriters, google the lyrics to Snake Farm for an example! And this line is one off my all time favorite song lyrics. I am tempted to cross stitch it on a sampler!
Foxy yes you're right! Gee I feel like Kate, who's our president? :)
Andrea really interesting thoughts. The psychology of how people respond to such things is fascinating.
Admin,
Its must my theory. There are worse thing happening all the time in other parts of the world. Thousands of people have died in Syria in the past year. But, we dont grieve as a nation about those people. We only get upset when its happening here in our country. But, most of these events dont compare to what other people are going through. Perhaps these people have lost perspective about whats going on around them. I dont know. I am not a psychologist. The human mind is complex, I like to think about why other people behave a specific way. Sometimes I cant explain it.
I do know that I use to use tragic events as a reason to cry or grieve before I received treatment for my anxiety. It was an outlet for the emotions I was holding in. I would see other people doing it on the news so I did not think anything of it. My counselor helped me understand that what I was doing.
Kate reminds me of the character "Katherine Parker" in the movie "Working Girl" played by Sigourney Weaver. Remember the scene where she has Tess (Melanie Griffith) putting on her ski boots and she tells her everything is all set for Harrison Ford's character to propose to her and Tess says, "well, how do you know he's going to propose" and she says, "wee...I've indicated that I am receptive...I've cleared the month if June...and I am, after all, ME". Does that attitude sound like someone we know? She is doing that with coupOn cabin...she has such an ignorant attitude toward loyalty. She goes on morning tv appearances to "promote CC" and instead uses the time to promote herself because she is, after all, Kate! It doesn't even enter her mind that she could piss them off enough to fire her! She thinks they are thanking God above with gracing them with her presence in their employ. She will be poleaxed when the can her just like Katherine Parker at the end of the movie "Working Girl"
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Kate's promoting Bella Bars on her website. She uses CC to write about her family and her life and uses her website to promote a product and its free shipping code.
One would think that it should be the reverse, wouldn't one? Well, that's Kate for you.
Wowser Working Girl is great. The Sigourney Weaver character is Kate if she had a business sense. Remember when she stole her secretary's idea??
Someone committed suicide in our office building a couple years ago and they had a psychologist come in and talk to us about it afterward. He told us that people process things like this in different ways. Some people want to talk about it, some people need to try to find out details, some people don't want to hear anything about it, some people retreat, some people get depressed, some get contemplative, etc. He made the point we all process and grieve in our own way and there is no right or wrong way to do it.
But, I am not going to grieve for people that I dont know
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I'm not so sure that you need to know people in order to grieve for them. Millions grieved for President Kennedy, and not many of those people knew him. I remember a quote by Hans Christian Andersen: "A human life is a story told by God." We don't need to personally be acquainted with someone to grieve for the loss of human life. It's the story itself for which we are grieving.
Even Kennedy's most famous speech was the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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I thought that was FDR. Anyway, point taken. But I remember one of the Bushes (neither one of whom I voted for) saying that specifically in light of the fear in America. Go about your normal business, just be aware. I thought it was great advice.
There's a blurb in a gossip column on philly.com that interested me. It says Katie Holmes has put out the word that no one is to send any freebies to Suri. No designers, nobody. Interesting contrast to K8.
A very good psychologist, that one.
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There's a blurb in a gossip column on philly.com that interested me. It says Katie Holmes has put out the word that no one is to send any freebies to Suri. No designers, nobody. Interesting contrast to K8.
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Oh, Kate's fingers are probably poised over her
18th iPhone to let the donors know where they can send those freebies Suri won't be getting. FedEx or UPS, either one. Both have fire lanes right in front.
I thought that was FDR.
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It was FDR, I think from his first inaugural address. FDR is also known for his "a date that will live in infamy," his Fireside Chats, and the Fala Address (Republicans made attacks on him, his wife, his sons and his dog, Fala).
According to Kate, she saw him on Mt. Rushmore!
Yes it was FDR which is why I said I feel like Kate lol!
It was so funny the kids were correcting her and she was like nooo. Haha.
If moderation is on I'm sure this won't get posted, but here goes:
Butterfly, I'm sorry you lost a friend but dying in one's sleep has to be so much easier than a lot of other possibilities. I am SO completely ready to be out of my life but unfortunately I only have debilitating problems, nothing fatal. I have been praying for nearly two years not to wake up and every morning I'm disappointed when I do. And I'm so sorry when innocent and loved people lose their lives like the people in Colorado-terribly sorry for them and their families but also sorry for myself.
And I'm not even remotely kidding or exaggerating, or as KK would say, no lie.
Admin, I'm one who asked you about the movie. I'm really sorry it turned into such controversy and anger and attacks. As I remember, you were talking of the special effects when you described it. I just don't understand why some get so overwrought about this. Of course, it's a huge tragedy. Did anyone else just watch 48 Hours? It was about this tragedy and it was really well done. We met some of the survivors in their hospital beds as they were recovering. We saw pictures of all the victims and their names. We saw the father of one young victim hearing the devastating news that his son died. But why this should cause people to get so angry because some choose to see this movie now is beyond me. Why not just allow each person to do what they feel is right for them without judging them by your standards. I wish we could turn the clock back and change what happened, but we can't. In my own way I do grieve for these families but as someone else said, I didn't know them so grieving all day long won't help those families for one second. That kind of grief is very personal. As far as anyone else's personal sexual choice is, that's also their business but I won't stop going to Chick Fil A because of their stand.
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But I remember one of the Bushes (neither one of whom I voted for) saying that specifically in light of the fear in America. Go about your normal business, just be aware. I thought it was great advice.
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Not meaning to be snarky, but of course the Bushes would advise us to go about our business and ignore their political shananigans. They got us into the middle eastern "wars" -- and what a coincidence! They're in the oil business. The "be aware" part??? Be aware of their criminal acts, maybe, but I don't know what else they may be referring to. Yes, go about your business and ignore it, no doubt that would be their advice.
absolutely anonymous...158, I have been exactly where you are right now and please believe it can get better. I still have the health issues, but after some time and a lot of deep thought my outlook is so much better. I finally learned to find contentment in the small things and stop resenting my physical losses; I wouldn't describe myself as a Pollyanna but I am no longer disappointed to wake up every morning. I sincerely hope it gets better for you and I hope it helps just the tiniest bit to know you are not alone.
Tasteless, unnecessary comments that you made within hours of a mass shooting AT said movie.
You set yourself up for this. Don't go crying victim now.
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Good point!
Not Using, ENOUGH. You are making a tragedy about trying to derail the blog and that's what's disgusting and tasteless. Any little thing you can pick and pick and pick and pick and pick at to try to derail things. I had said I had already had plans to go, then I didn't say anything else. Then when I got back I made a completely different comment, and that's when a few people asked how it was. I wasn't planning on saying anything about it until people were curious and ASKED. That's what I was clearly referring to. Reading comprehension. Get some. I am not "lying" to anyone, all the comments are right here for people to read. You insult the readers here.
And for those who asked you did nothing wrong. The Kate fans really are sad people who will use a TRAGEDY to try to derail this blog. Unbelievable.
I am no victim by the way and never said I was. Gimme a freaking break. You might try focusing a little more on the real victims and less on trying to bring down a Kate Gosselin blog. Disgusting.
@162 -- "Snotty Brat," is that you? Some here (and on Twitter) seem to be particularly nasty and spiteful tonight. It's not full moon. What could it be?
Does anyone remember which sheeple it was who thought "crotchety" was a dirty word and didn't allow her kids to use it? Was it Jeannie, Gypsi or someone else?
I haven't seen the movie and I don't go to movie theaters, but...............
I see a comment about 'special effects being mind-blowing' and the tragedy as two separate things.
Yes, there was a terrible tragedy.
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Yes, the special effects at the movie were good.
Both can exist simultaneously without cancelling or demeaning the other.
I have no doubt at all that the comments about going to the movie and the special effects were meant respectfully. Admin is not disrespectful.
If some posters are offended that others attended the movie, well then, as my old therapist used to say 'the offended ones own the problem'.
We ALL deal with tragedy in DIFFERENT WAYS. No one way is more or less 'better' than the others.
Getting angry and snotty just piles onto the tragedy. It's divisive and not productive.
Each one of us loses something when tragedies like this occur. How we deal with our feelings and actions is private and personal and correct for ourselves.
This blog has always been a safe haven for discussion, with occasion forays into snark. IMHO, we need to return to the path of other-acceptance before things get too nasty.
Oh dear? I haven't erased any of my comments, so stop. And that language is not appreciated on this blog. No one "f-ed up" other than what you are trying to do.
Regular Poster, that was very well said. I am saddened by the few people that take disagreement to a very personal and hateful level. It's one thing to disagree about Kate or other celeb news, quite another to cut down the perfectly human and varied responses to what happened. Butterfly feels it's important to express grief in a quantitative way such as canceling plans, and that's perfectly acceptable and her way of coping. Others like myself tend to think more about not wanting to give such people power by changing plans, and that's acceptable too. Like I said, I am a Hawaiian tshirt kind of funeral gal, others cannot cope that way. To each his own.
A quick look at all the comments as soon as this happened will demonstrate everyone here was deeply moved and sincerely upset. To try to suggest otherwise mistakes the facts.
I also think the movie is getting way to intertwined with what happened. To an illogical degree. To a point where it bears little resemblance to what happened. Can I see the movie tonight, is that okay? How about tomorrow? Or is next week okay. The arbitrary line drawing is very judgmental and IMO absurd. What made you decide that one night is required but not more. I'm betting there are a good many people that would judge the "one night" plan and say how can you go at all or how can you ONLY grieve one night because people grieve in ALL KINDS OF WAYS.
This had nothing to do with that movie. It could have happened at any movie, play, event, or anything. This just happened to be the movie that was out when this psychopath decided to do it. The recent Toronto mall shooting happened in front of a number of brand name stores, it makes no sense to me to not visit those stores out o respect. It's not how I deal with things. Others do and that's fine.
Refusing to participate in such things has little to do with anything but if that's how you cope with it, that's totally fine like I said. It obviously wasn't something that Warner Brothers and most theaters decided was the right coping mechanism to impose upon people or they could have pulled it just like that. It's a personal choice. How would you feel if you were at a funeral and weren't bawling your eyes out through the whole thing and someone started suggesting that you are insensitive or aren't showing appropriate enough grief. As many pointed out, psychologists have said that not everyone responds in exactly the same way. Or we'd all be robots. Let's have a little sensitivity. And maybe make it a little less about how WE are coping and more about the people actually involved. Not that the trolls will digest any of this. Which is why they are trolls and frankly, vile people as far as I can tell.
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That's the wonderful thing about different opinions: we are all free to have one.
I DON'T think she f**ked up AT ALL and I don't think she is lying. :-)
I do think we are need to show some manners though, and profanity is just poor manners.
... Oh Dear, you sound so angry. Perhaps we all need to get some sleep and return tomorrow with better perscpective, whadaya say???
No Kate airport sightings?? No in Chicago has tweeted her pic yet?? LOL
I feel like I should get up and run a 5K anyway, in spirit, since I didnt get to make this one, and write Milo&Jack on my t-shirt (only kidding on the t-shirt part!)
Well, my last email for the race from CC still didnt mention Kate, only to stop by their tent at 05something in the morning to get their t-shirt. They really want all 'their' runners to represent.
ah...... perspective....... too late at night to be typing. sad face, frown....
Really?
Not one of us here are a victim of this tragedy other than by emotion.
Stop with the dramatics!
It is insulting to the people who are.
This is a blog. Our participation is voluntary. With that said, we all show our emotions differently. Some are quite; some bang their fists, etc… who is to say who is wrong and who is right?
No one!
Now get offline and donate or make a difference in another way if it is such a big deal to you to be outraged and need an outlet. Otherwise, allow others to discuss.
In my humble opinion, nothing could have been done to stop this…it involved a maniac on a mission. Innocent people were hurt/harmed. It could happen to anyone at any time.
That is a fact.
Innocence is lost on a daily basis. To good and bad people. The bottom line….
Like it or not, live has to go on people.
It simply has to!
You either cower or you continue.
We, as people, do not have a lot of say or choice in the matter when it involves horror.
Just sayin
Sorry if I overstepped here. Nyquil and Tylenol PM’s are involved and my patience is running very thin with a certain crowd!
Sincerely,
Anastasia
"Tasteless, unnecessary comments that you made within hours of a mass shooting AT said movie."
The only comments that are tasteless and unnecessary are comments like these and others trying to stir the pot.
Admin-you openly admitted you saw the movie and it was your right to do so. There is no need to defend yourself. Others might not agree with your choice and that is their right to do that also, but some seem to also think it's there right to be snotty and critical amd that's where they're wrong.
Well, Geez Louise,
Please don't send the grammar police after me!
#169 should read: we all need, not we are need........
And I don't even have any meds to blame - sad face - I was just typing too fast, thinking one thing and typing another.
Hopefully my brain-finger connection will be fine after a few hours of sleep.
Well I guess I should do some kind of Chicago marathon post since it's only in a few hours, even though Kate has not absolutely NOTHING to promote her appearance there.
I'm guessing right now she's with her rent-a-cop or Steve-o somewhere in a three star hotel room cracking open the boxed wine trying to drink away her irrelevance.
Admin,
It's interesting that you mentioned coping with grief quantitatively- I dont actually- I usually dont cope outwardly at all, I have no idea why this time is different. I lost my brother last year to cancer, he was 34. I didnt even cry. I went to work the next day. And the next, and the next. My friend just died less than two weeks ago, 43 years old, in his sleep for no reason. I was shocked, numb. Then I went to work. So what the heck is wrong with me lately- in regards to this tragedy- I have no clue. I guess you cant predict what will affect you, or how much, when.
I do like the differing perspectives on this board. I think it's wonderful to get alternate views and opinions. It gives one something to think about.
Anastasia well said. For someone so outraged they sure are spending a lot of time blogging. Maybe go volunteer at a blood drive or something?
Butterfly and what an excellent demonstration of the point. Prior times you've coped one way, this time you feel like coping another way. Even in the same person grief varies from time to time, place to place.
Do you really think there will be anything to write about?
I am betting that we see nothing about kart at all.
I doubt there will be any photos for ROL.
Is there any proof she's even there? At some point, she might just decide it's not worth it to pay her own way and get no publicity.
I would LOVE to see a post about her non-appearance! Her disappearance into to nowhereville, into obscurity.
LOL, I'd love to see a clip on ROL with some reporter asking about her and folks saying 'kart who?'
Well, off to bed. Beauty sleep and all that.
I doubt there will be much if any news about this mini marathon. The big race is the half marathon. The mini is just a small side event. There's no real time tracking-probably just the results will be posted.
I even wonder if Kate will tweet her results. She was gung-ho about the SD run and also LV-not so with this one. I get the feeling she really didn't want to participate, but CC insisted and she reluctantly agreed. She really is running as a CC staff member, not as "the" Kate Gosselin.
If there is any publicity about it, it will be due to CC publicizing it-not Kate being the "star".
I wonder if CC was so mortified by the poor results that they sort of completely backed out of promoting it and are letting it die a quiet death.
I mean shouldn't this be something splashed all over their web site?
If these tragedies become more common, I just hope that we as a nation don't become desensitized and hardened (is that the word?) to these senseless events that we stop caring and just go on with life as usual, dismissing them by saying, "well, what can you do? It happens."
Griftopia,
Like your husband, I also serve in the Navy. I am in the intel community.
Admin: CC has done no publicity in the Chicago area, no TV ads, no newspaper ads, nothing. I agree, they got a poor turn out. Whatever Kate's PR BSed about Kate was not true. Kate has bitten another hand that has fed her. Another golden opportunity down the toilet.
Regular Poster and Admin - well said. Thank you both for stating my feelings. While the events in CO were horrifying I will not let this isolated incident stop me from living my life. We were stationed in Germany when the Red Army Faction was targeting American military personnel. It was a scary time but we didn't hide under a bed we lived our lives just a little more cautiously. I know that some may jump on me for calling the events in CO an "isolated incident", but that's what it was. It wasn't something planned by the movie executives and was in no way related to the movie. It was some nut with a gun and had he not been at the move he would have been at a mall, a college campus, a church, sporting event or anywhere else. Our thoughts and prayers are with those families but I will not be made to feel guilty by some posters for going on with my life and, in fact, seeing the movie if I want to. This may be a bad analogy but a close friend was killed when hit by a car while crossing the street. That was a lot more personal to me but I still cross streets.
If kate just had a little smarts in her, and promoted CC, every time she did an interview, tweeted about them etc, been gun-ho, perhaps CC would have done commercials with Kate as their spokes person, but no Stupid Kate had to talk about her NEED for a new reality TV show. That was a slap in CC face. YOur just a mediocre, joke of a company, to Kate.
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I don't think we as a nation would ever get that way. There have been many such tragedies over the last 60 years(and even before that). From the assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK, Oklahoma City, 9/11, plus previous shooting incidents. The fact that people are still shocked when things like this happen leads me to believe that becoming desensitized would be an unlikely occurence.
He dyed his hair red and called himself The Joker. How is that not related to the Batman movie?
So many young people dead. It's horrifying.
Jessica I don't want to speak for everyone but what I mean is that if it were Spiderman playing he would have dressed up like someone from Spiderman. It could have be anything.
When I say Reagan getting shot had nothing to do with Jodie Foster, I don't mean literally. I just mean the guy would have found a reason to go crazy whether Jodie Foster was in the equation or not. If it weren't her it would be some other actress. It's not really about what the random things they choose to latch onto are, IMO. A guy could dress up like an apple and hurt people but I don't think we should stop eating apples out of respect for any victims. It's just what these deranged people chose to get obsessed with.
Jessica, not to make light of this I call my cat "your majesty" but that doesn't make her the Queen of England. The gunman is a mentally ill individual and as admin said his obsession could have been anything it just happened to be the Joker.
What I gleaned in reading some of these posts is that maybe some people are upset that people chose to see this movie the very next night.
Not that people shouldn't see it at all.
I think it was right for WB to cancel the premiere of this movie in Paris. I don't think it's too much to ask for 24 hrs. of abstaining from frivlous personal movie entertainment. There's lots of other things people could do.
I gave blood yesterday so I can't again for 6 weeks.
There's really not a lot of other stuff to discuss here regarding Kate. She hasn't given us anything!
Anger Issuses said: CC has done no publicity in the Chicago area, no TV ads, no newspaper ads, nothing.
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This is not true. A large photo of Kate and the below article was in the Chicago Tribune newspaper. And her name and upcoming run was mentioned for several days in a small column listing named What's Coming Up This Week.
Written by Mr. Gomez:
You can count on at least one celebrity taking part in the XSport Fitness Rock 'N' Roll Chicago Half Marathon every year, whether it's performing on stage during the post-race party at Butler Field in Grant Park or running the course through the Loop and River North, among other neighborhoods.
“X-Men” star James Marsden, “Today” show weatherman Al Roker, “E! News” co-host Giuliana Rancic, Five For Fighting singer John Ondrasik and three-time Super Bowl winner Roger Craig all have run the race.
This year?
“Good Girls Go Bad” band Cobra Starship will perform and Craig and former “Bachelor” star Andy Baldwin plan to run the race. Former “Jon & Kate Plus 8” star Kate Gosselin ran the Rock 'N' Roll San Diego Half Marathon in June but said she will change things up a bit in Chicago and run the 3-mile version of Sunday's race — aka the Mini Marathon.
“I'm not one of those (lifelong) runners,” Gosselin, 37, said over the phone Monday. “I started running outside two years ago. It's an inexpensive workout I could do wherever and whenever. … Also, I get very little alone time, so it's my way to be by myself.”
In addition to Cobra Starship, the race features bands from various genres performing at each mile of the race, from classic rock and country to indie rock and Latin rock. Gosselin has her own race-day music playlist, as well as a few other traditions she's developing the more she races.
“The night before the race, I eat plain mashed potatoes for that carb load,” said Gosselin, who is running on behalf of couponcabin.com, a shopping website that hosts a blog she writes. “And the morning of the race, I eat a bagel with cream cheese. It's what I did before San Diego and it worked perfectly.”
Gosselin did achieve her goal of finishing that half marathon in fewer than two hours.
Kate finally tweeted that she was running in Chicago this morning if anyone is joining her....way to go Kate! Announce it right before they say"go" at the starting line. Kate used to say she didn't announce things because she was afraid of being mobbed. I wonder since the cruise debacle and the lack of people who showed up at her last book signing if the REAL reason she doesn't announce or tweet these events is because she doesn't want to face how insignificant she has become. In her mind she can say that people are not there because she kept it all hush hush. Deep down inside she knows the truth. She plays these head games for herself...it's a coping mechanism to keep her in her OWN reality....being the realist reality stah ever! I think what will be key here is finding out if skeevo went with her. If he didn't, then I think the blogger who said he was on for one year contractually nailed it....but would the contract be up yet? Didn't she get canned in August last year?
Kate's time:
Point Time Time of Day Pace
START 00:00:00 6:47:08 am --
FINISH 00:29:54 7:17:01 am 09:38
Avg. Pace 09:38
She had a lousy pace time-is this because she was running with the "slow" runners as she previously stated?
Overall results are not posted yet.
Love how all the sheeple are now tweeting her "good luck", when Kate finished running over 45 minutes ago. I'm wonder if Kate will tweet her time, and what excuse she'll use? She can't blame the heat, as it's only currently 75 degrees in Chicago.
Kate is a twit said... 193
Kate's time:
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What? No follow-up Tweet from Kate Herself?
Norway in mourning
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/22/world/europe/norway-shooting-anniversary/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
How awful to lose 77 lives at one mans hands
Jessica did you give blood through the Red Cross? The time between donations is actually longer--8 weeks.
I think she doesn't publicize her events because she does NOT want anyone to show up. She's really of afraid people showing up and asking questions, as more and more people tumble to her non-truths. She's afraid of confrontations, which she knows she can't defend.
So she presents it to the event planners as she's afraid for her safety. Not that she's afraid of people calling her on her BS.
Is Kate tweet a joke on a sunday morning?She tweeted at 5:35 am, on sunday morning, most people are still in bed, and could care less of any mararthon. Kate should have tweeted this all week and yesterday! She tweets this morning asking who is running with her? Kate is truely ass-backwards. The joke of the day!
here is a pic of Kate after the race.http://twitter.com/Bobbigarcia/status/227032608989671424/photo/1/large
Maggie interesting so they did promote it a bit locally I didn't know that.
Anger Issues as for Kate, classic Kate. She is her own undoing. No one wants to hire a celeb to be their sponsor if said celeb can't even properly promote things.
NEW POST about the marathon.
AuntieAnn said... 86
@Z3lliE thanku. I work hard, as all moms do/should do2teach them 2b kind,polite, respectful,&pleasant...:) someXs it works & someXs not;) about 2 hours ago
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Ummm Kate- Newflash- You lead by example. Kind, polite, respectful and pleasant.... I think not : )
Maggie: your right, I forgot about the TRIBUNE article, I thought it was an online article only, not in printed paper. ( I only by the sunday paper. But even still that was the only publicity for it. CC made no extra effort to advertized. That little interview, took all of 3 mins to do on the phone, no alone interview/article. There is about 30 mins left of local news. Then they do the political still/events. The only newscast that might have her possibly on might be ABC Tv local, cause they expand their local news to 1 hour. 10p-11p. I hope not!
Jessica I don't want to speak for everyone but what I mean is that if it were Spiderman playing he would have dressed up like someone from Spiderman. It could have be anything.
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They were reporting last night that people who knew him said he was fascinated with comics, Batman in particular, and this is why he targeted the opening of this particular movie, something about a certain scene, violence and control. Who knows, though...will anyone ever really know the motive?
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