Thursday, September 29, 2011

Parents who force sick and fragile kids to work on reality tv: how much is too much?

Concerning information has been leaking out this week about the Duggar's marathon trip to Europe and Israel. According to a statement from Terem Emergency Medical Centers in Jerusalem, Josie, age 1 (born at 25 weeks and weighing just 1 pound 6 ounces and who has continued to suffer health problems), took ill and had to stay behind in the Holy Land with her mother because doctors wouldn't clear her to fly. Eventually a doctor flew home with them. A family rep is reporting that the whole incident will be made into an episode. This is not the first time the Duggars have filmed Josie during her most medically fragile moments. Cameras were welcome into the highly sensitive NICU during her stay. 

Filming in the NICU

The Duggars have also filmed their other children suffering from chicken pox.


Filming chicken pox

Some of the most questionable decisions Jon and Kate ever made was to force sick, uncomfortable kids to work anyway. Most good parents don't send sick children to school, and yet these children are made to work? With an independent set teacher around (a responsible adult who gets paid whether they force kids to work), a child wouldn't have to be cleared to work when he doesn't feel well, even if a parent thinks they can work anyway.

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Dwindle said...

Administrator said... Sheesh in just a few comments from folks here I learned more about running than I ever did from anything Kate has ever said.

If you think about it, Kate's posts/tweets/etc about running are not about running tips at all, but just all about Kate.
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re: learning from the comments here: I KNOW! It's great! I finally have a better clue what my daughter is babbling about when she talks her running stuff.

The second part of what you said Admin makes me realize something (OK I am slow). We all know Katie is making up these questions she answers; it doesnt occur to her to actually offer her limited knowledge on child rearing, or fitness, or nutrition. These topics are merely superficial means by which to gift-o-gab about HERSELF. She thinks it's the same thing. I mean, this is just now hitting me. She thinks her lame topics are just avenues for "More About MEEEE". Not about cooking, but all about KATE. Not about makeup, but more about KATE.

I am having a hard time putting it into words. It really just became very clear to me. Wow.

Dulcina said...

Dwindle, welcome to a very sad club.

Marie said...

Dwindle said...

Marie said... OH! Come on!! What meeting could she possibly be in?! She doesnt have a JOB! The one thing you know you kinda sorta maybe need to be in a meeting is have a job.

I'd love to hear an explanation for this one!

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This summer we got rid of our pool, praise the Lord. So I emailed our insurance agent and said I wanted to make that change on our homeowners policy plus add a couple of other things. He emailed me back and said he would call me today around 1p. So, yeah, I had a 'meeting' too!!!! Then we had an electrician stop by about 5p today to give us his estimate on wiring changes so we can move the washer and dryer, so yep! I had another meeting at 5p!!!!

I am so busy and exhaustedish, I had to do it all all all alone, hubby had the neglectful nerve to be working all day when he should have been here doting on my every need!!! No one knows how to help me!!!! Waaaaaaa....!!!!!!!!

...sniff... dab... please send gift cards.
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I didn't mean to imply it like that. I meant we all know Kate says she's got meetings for work in the past. I know other meetings exist. But this is Kate. She probably just wants everyone to believe it was for work.

Dwindle said...

Hoosier Girl said... Dwindle said...

...sniff... dab... please send gift cards
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Oh Dwindle ... you're so beautifulish ... and busyish ... and worn outish ... I don't know HOW you do it!!!!!!!!!!

I'm fresh out of gift cards as I've sent them all to Katie Kreider - but I could go buy you some expired organic-ish cereal. If you promise not to ignore me ... and tweet me ... and make me feel like a special sheep.

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OH SO SUPPORTIVE!!! ADMIN ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? NOTICE HOW LOVED I AM! YES I HAVE TO DO IT ALL OR WHO WILL??

Please drop your envelopes in the collection plate cash only in small bills. I am not tax deductable.

@Hoosier , yes please buy me lots of moldy cereal, it's good enough for my hubby. I will give you specific instructions on how to do this right after I get done making more lists of the things that exhaust me. Like list making - all the list making is all on me. Lists are so listy and alone is so alone. I am so broke I can barely afford my weekly case of sticky notes!!!!

I need a reality show please anyone anyone please gimme gimme gimme my own show! In the meantime, I will flash my boobs for trips - line up over there - I SAID OVER THERE!!!

Dwindle said...

Marie said...I didn't mean to imply it like that. I meant we all know Kate says she's got meetings for work in the past. I know other meetings exist. But this is Kate. She probably just wants everyone to believe it was for work.

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Oh Marie, I didnt mean to sound snippy at you. Did I sound like that? I am so sorry. What I meant by my comments is that I *did* have these 2 timeframes on my agenda for today and Kate would consider something routine like that a 'meeting'. She takes one little grain of truth and makes a whole exaggerated bank of lies out of it.

So Kate having the electrician come by is something she would tweet is a 'meeting' with a perfectly clear conscience. Just to make her twitheads dribble themselves.

Again, I am sorry Marie if you and I misunderstood each other.

Hoosier Girl said...

Dwindle -

I can drop the ereal-cay by the ate-gay AnyAny time. Um-heh-ya ... Um ... (that's our new Bestie code!) giggle giggle

You just let me know! We can be Besties and hang out and shop and do our 5 minute faces and and and have Starbucks!!
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And on a serious note ... I'm going into a meeting ... with the sandman. Night.

Marie said...

Dwindle said...

Marie said...I didn't mean to imply it like that. I meant we all know Kate says she's got meetings for work in the past. I know other meetings exist. But this is Kate. She probably just wants everyone to believe it was for work.

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Oh Marie, I didnt mean to sound snippy at you. Did I sound like that? I am so sorry. What I meant by my comments is that I *did* have these 2 timeframes on my agenda for today and Kate would consider something routine like that a 'meeting'. She takes one little grain of truth and makes a whole exaggerated bank of lies out of it.

So Kate having the electrician come by is something she would tweet is a 'meeting' with a perfectly clear conscience. Just to make her twitheads dribble themselves.

Again, I am sorry Marie if you and I misunderstood each other.
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No big deal. It's sort of hard sometimes to really read what a person is saying in connection with tone of voice.

I was referring to Kate making anything sound important (a.k.a. see I have a meeting! I'm important!).

Last week I had a meeting with my college adviser...oh yeah I'm special because I had a 'meeting.' Kate just has to make herself seem special with just about everything!

What I can't wait for here is the day her kids become teenagers, being one myself once, okay 2 years ago honest but her kids are going to talk back one of these days, no matter how much Kate things she has control over her kids now. She's in for a rough row and it'll be her own fault.

ncgirl said...

I had two posts last night I thought didn't show up, but they're here today.

"BTW, can someone tell me if Shoka is a girl or a boy?"

I think Shoka is a boy. Nala was the girl. Maybe the meeting is with Brownie for some more expired food.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If Kate met up with a friend for lunch and they spent 30 seconds talking about Kate's career prospects, she would classify that has a "meeting."

Wait. I don't think she has friends.

Gift of grab said...

What does Kate think she is doing with this web site? It's been "live" for nearly three weeks. If you strip out the words that have (allegedly) originated with "fans," she herself has produced no more than about a 1,000. If that. In THREE WEEKS? Half of her headers still have NO text whatsoever.

Still she blabs on about how much she loves to write and how she wants to publish more books, blah blah blah. Who in the world is buying this nonsense?

I think she is coming to realize that there is no way for her to keep up with the site, not in real time, and I can see her handing off most if not all of the content work to her fawning fans or anyone else who will work for free. She is only interested in "masterminding," after all, not in doing any actual work.

Kate seems to think she can become Martha or Oprah without the decades of hard work (and talent) that preceded their current incarnations. Truly, her reach far exceeds her grasp.

Kate's Cart said...

A little off topic, but this pic of Kate's armpit is just not normal. http://gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-kids-1

Anonymous said...

Soooooo agree admin on the kate's tips being all about kate. All the questions she answers are as well. I'm sure people email her specific questions about fitness and all they get is kate bumping her own ego telling them how often she runs. Also are we to really think the most pressing questions on "ask kate' - are what size do you wear? how tall are you? those could be answered on twitter and don't need a website. She only responds to things that can be a direct fluff to her ego without having to give any real tips. Why? because she doesn't have any tips except "it never to early for bedtime"
She lives a sham life.

Now as far as Steve admin. I go back and forth so much. I used to believe he was in it for the trip, publicity and money but gosh..how could he stand being around her otherwise. I will always go back and forth on what I think on their relationship. My opinion changes daily. Everyone has good points. Kate is so asexual I one day think "no way" other times I think..well where did he sleep on the RV trip? Why is he with her all the time instead of what is appropriate. How could he stand being her best "friend" she is a friend to no one. My practical side can't see him giving up his family for her over trips. But again..how could he be romantic with her? Totally agree about the tweeting though...her tweets make me think he is no longer around. She has way too much free time now. see..i go back and forth. I sometimes think they may have hooked up a few times. Other times I believe the relationship was all in her head and he led her on.

I DO however think her attraction to Steve was a major reason for the divorce. Jon wanted Steve gone and kate to be home more or travel with a more appropriate person. kate wasn't gonna let steve go..nooooo way.

EM

Marie said...

Sort of looks like Kate is yelling at individual kids or at least yelling at them one at a time. I mean's she's sort of in their face about it. What with her arm blocking them from getting into the van and all it's really creepy.

I bet she just loves to make them feel miserable from the looks on their faces it's heartbreaking! She won't be in charge forever, hope you know that Kate! She must be so proud to tower over her kids like that all the time. What is it with her and this need to have constant power?! It's sick!

Kids screw up, no reason to make a whole ordeal about it, especially to stand there and let paps take pics is so bizzare. I mean it's clear she see's them. What, it's not enough she has to do this in front of other potential kids and parents? She has to do it in front of the press/media, too? Disgusting pig!

Anonymous said...

back on topic.
it's so hard to believe kate was a nurse. you think during her nursing career she would have learned that it's best to stay home with you sick kids instead of following jon to get hair plugs. kate HAD to go on that trip though. you also would think she would have learned a better bedside manner and not filmed joel when he was so ill. instead of comforting her child she made him feel bad for making her have to "do laundry". and to leave in him the laundry room is awful. how about some love, comfort, a soft bed, try to hydrate him slowly, put on a cartoon and give him a kiss.
kate was so concerned about performing for the camera how hard it is to have a sick child she completely forgot about the sick child. she should have sent the cameras home and said come back when joel is well. this is too much for him right now. please stop filming him.

sheeple always say how lucky the kids are kate is a nurse. really? ask cara when she hurt her foot..colin when impacted..joel with the flu..the earache of leah that kate took 2 weeks to get checked. the vomiting on the boat with no sympathy or a change of clothes. remember when leah used to vomit for "attention" as kate put it? some nursing skills there kate.

EM

Anonymous said...

Kate's twitter and website are doing her more harm than good. The media is reporting her tweets and discussing her website. Her best bet would have been to disappear from the public eye and generate interest in what she is up to. Why do an update show now when we can see what's up with her on twitter? She has no clue how to proceed to get what she wants. A little mystery and time to reinvent herself would have been her best bet. Why hire her now? She's already out there. There is no mystery. No curiosity. She's giving it all away for free.

I hope I didn't just give her free advice. I'm sure she reads here. Hopefully she is too narcissistic to believe me and will continue to feed her ego and her shameless self promotion til everyone is sick of her and not just 90% of the public.

EM

Speed Demon said...

What I can't wait for here is the day her kids become teenagers, being one myself once, okay 2 years ago honest but her kids are going to talk back one of these days, no matter how much Kate things she has control over her kids now. She's in for a rough row and it'll be her own fault.


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Wait until she has to teach all eight of them to drive, and actually obey the speed limit!

Parent and Alumna said...

2) Are the kids wearing those shoes without socks? Am I the only one who thinks that weird? I personally find wearing shoes without socks very uncomfortable. Again, maybe that's just me.

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No-show sneaker socks. Many kids wear them to school. Socks MUST be worn as part of the school uniform.

Marie said...

Speed Demon said...

What I can't wait for here is the day her kids become teenagers, being one myself once, okay 2 years ago honest but her kids are going to talk back one of these days, no matter how much Kate things she has control over her kids now. She's in for a rough row and it'll be her own fault.


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Wait until she has to teach all eight of them to drive, and actually obey the speed limit!
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The scenario:

Kate: You have to go the speed limit! Slow down! PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING!

Kid: Why? You didn't. You got all kinds of tickets! YOU DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU WERE DOING! WHY SHOULD I?

Kate: Because I'm in charge and that's never going to change!

Kid: Oh yeah it will, in about 2 years I'm out of here!

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Her armpit doesn't look normal because it has had an incision put in it and an implant stuffed in. Probably twice.

Carezee said...

On the subject of the children's shoes. Does anyone else think the shoes look too big for them? Perhaps now that Kate is poor she had to buy them shoes that would last for a few years.

As far as those armpits... it looks like she is wearing her a** under her arms.

Tucker's Mom said...

I DO however think her attraction to Steve was a major reason for the divorce. Jon wanted Steve gone and kate to be home more or travel with a more appropriate person. kate wasn't gonna let steve go..nooooo way.

EM
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This one really gets me and I know I've commented time and again about it. If Steve is really a bodyguard and just that, then he's replaceable. No two ways about it-- if my DH were perturbed by me traveling with a handsome man for days, weeks at a time, I'd hire a Hirsuite Helga.
End of story.

Just curious said...

kate can't do sh** said...

Her armpit doesn't look normal because it has had an incision put in it and an implant stuffed in. Probably twice.
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Bicep implants? LOL

pig is right said...

Marie said (about yelling at the kids)

I mean it's clear she see's them. What, it's not enough she has to do this in front of other potential kids and parents? She has to do it in front of the press/media, too? Disgusting pig!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

She hates the kids, and has no self control. That's why why she can't stop even though she knows cameras are there.

The kids aren't people to her. They are commodities. Unless they're working for her, she can't stand to be around them.

pis is right said...

Sorry, pigs. Most animals don't behave nearly as badly as this woman does.

Tucker's Mom said...

Anonymous said...
back on topic.
it's so hard to believe kate was a nurse. you think during her nursing career she would have learned that it's best to stay home with you sick kids instead of following jon to get hair plugs. kate HAD to go on that trip though. you also would think she would have learned a better bedside manner and not filmed joel when he was so ill. instead of comforting her child she made him feel bad for making her have to "do laundry". and to leave in him the laundry room is awful. how about some love, comfort, a soft bed, try to hydrate him slowly, put on a cartoon and give him a kiss.
kate was so concerned about performing for the camera how hard it is to have a sick child she completely forgot about the sick child. she should have sent the cameras home and said come back when joel is well. this is too much for him right now. please stop filming him.
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Yes, must not deviate from the episode's story arc!!
The story was baking and damned if Kate would stop that to comfort her son.
When I was sick, my mom would wheel her tv into my room, which was HUGE. I didn't have a tv in my bedroom, so it was very special and helped me feel better.
I can not for a second fathom my mother placing a think blanket on the laundry floor and making me lay there instead of a bed. With 8 kids, there wasn't a spare bed the poor kid could use?
I don't understand any mother who isn't appalled by this.

Kate doesn't rate said...

Kate uses her 8 as excuse for her ugly behavior. "I have 8 kids, I'm entitled to be a b*tch"

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