Monday, June 17, 2019

Discussion Thread: Kate Plus Date "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" 6/17/2019 AND Recap: Kate Plus Date "Crazy Little Thing Called Love": Rachel is not a 'date mom' she is a repugnant doofus

Hi everyone. Strangely, TLC decided to push this episode early to their online platforms as an "early premiere," so for the first time in my history of writing recaps, the recap is ready to go the moment the episode airs. It's just like we got an advanced screener copy! Heh. Enjoy.

I won't recap the show's recap of what happened last time, you can just read my recap here. The sum of it is Kate's matchmaker Rachel is pretty darn obtuse, and Kate rejected two potentially decent guys one because he had something called a personality and the other because he was an amazing guy who was like 5'7, maybe 5'8 on a good day. They don't play the Queen song this episode, oddly. Good because Queen was asking themselves "can we sue???"

Rachel starts off the episode with more dumb comments, this time talking about how she has to just cast the net wide because Kate can't articulate what she's looking for in a man. Rachel, she never did tell you what she wants because she's not really looking. It's so painful to watch Rachel continue to not get it.

I guess they're implying Kate will do two dates a week, and then regroup with Rachel to start up the next two the next week. It's unlikely this is how this was filmed, which would put it on a pretty lengthy five-week schedule, longer than some low-budget movies. It costs more money to film things in couple day spurts week after week. Usually you would film all at once or as much at once as possible, though perhaps with weekends off. They also probably filmed all of the North Carolina stuff at once and all of the New York City stuff at once and all of the PA stuff at once, to the extent possible. It makes no sense to be jetting off back and forth back and forth to all these places a dozen times as the show implies. So I'm not really sure I believe out of the gate this is "next week." It's more than likely just the next day or even out of order somewhere.

Kate says well this week her nerves are a bit better, and then proceeds to talk not about the men but being nervous about meeting Rachel last week. Why in the world was she nervous meeting Rachel? Is she supposed to be dating her? Well, I hope Kate quickly realized there's nothing to be nervous about meeting a blown bag, and that that was silly of her.

Rachel advises Kate to get out of her head and into her heart. That might be good advice if anyone actually knew what she meant by that. Self-help people who talk in mumbo-jumbo terms like that are generally just that, full of mumbo-jump crap. "Intentional" is one of my favorite stupid mumbo-jumbo buzzwords common among all the gurus these days. Do this intentionally, do that intentionally, be intentional, yada yada. Since almost everything I do except maybe pee a little when I laugh really hard is intentional, I haven't the foggiest clue what they mean by that and mostly find people who spew out stuff like "intentional" and "get out of your head" to be money-grabbing frauds.

Kate is interpreting all this as just don't "think" on a date. Um, so like, be a zombie? Normally I would say good heavens don't stop thinking all together, that could be scary, like what happens if you approach a crosswalk and aren't allowing yourself any thinking? But in Kate's case, she might be better off with taking the thinking out of this completely.

Can I put this questionable advice into simpler and hopefully better terms? I think what Kate needs to work on is being in the moment. In other words, advice from Realitytvkids, on a date try to stop yourself from running through a bunch of questions in your head, or fears, or what if's. Try to focus on one or two simple thoughts, like how can I get to know this man in front of me better right now, what can I say and do to help me do that? Don't worry if he's not for you, don't worry if you will be asked out on a second date, don't worry if he likes you too or if the date is going well for him or if you will marry. Consciously reassure yourself you will be able to think up and down about all those nagging questions later, once the date has ended and you've left.

When Rachel says "unknowwwwwn" I hear Syracuse. She went there, and I wonder if she's from the area. There's some upstate New York in this girl, whether born and raised or just a transplant!

Her first victim is up already, Jeremiah, from Jersey (Jersey!!), 39 and a retired police officer. Divorced of course. Police officer eh? This might work. Kate once said a police officer would be great for her kids.

Wait, he's a retired police officer. He's only 39, so what does he do now? Just not work? Let me guess, he's an actor and really only ever did the police thing maybe 6 months. Unless maybe the pension was so good it made sense to hang up the hat at 39, which is possible!

Jeremiah is looking for someone who can help him become a man. The what becoming what man? Jeremiah, you are 39 years old! There's not much more "becoming" left to go! Rachel is the worst matchmaker. He's all wrong for Kate. He says he'd like to help the woman do the same. Help Kate become a man? That could be an interesting relationship.

Huh, Jeremiah's shirt sure has a bunch of holes in it, which is a comment I can totally hear my grandmother saying if she were to watch this show, bless her departed soul.

Was the budget slashed on this show already between episode one and two? Because Kate pulls up to an escape room in a taxi this time. A taxi, baw! How mediocre! What happened to the limo, the champagne, the crowd of tourists wondering when the sidewalks will open up again? What, they couldn't even spring for an UberX? Pitiful.

Kate likes escape rooms because she's competitive to the death. Eh, another dating tip, try not to come across as psycho competitive, most people see that as a huge red flag. In general, first dates that involve a competition of some sort are not a good idea but if you must, try to just stay relaxed and don't be more concerned with winning than getting to know your date.

Jeremiah arrives at the escape room a bit out of breath and legitimately sweating. Kate noticed how tall Jeremiah was, but didn't notice his huge muscles that apparently production noticed, because he keeps talking about it out of the frame and questioning Kate on it. Maybe Jeremiah should be set up with him, he seems to appreciate him! Jeremiah thought Kate has pretty eyes. She does, they're a pretty color, sure. But still dead.

Sorry I'm late, Jeremiah says, but I was busy giving CPR to some guy in the coffee shop who collapsed. Kate says twice he's lying. At least later in the interview she seems to acknowledge that was kind of bitchy of her to just assume he's lying. Lol. The reason I don't think Jeremiah is lying is because it doesn't seem to bother him that Kate doesn't believe him. He's kind of like, whatever, I did what I did, I don't need you to validate me. A producer speaks up out of the frame and says this story is actually completely true. Sounds like the same voice who really was admiring the muscles earlier, hehe. After getting through the preliminaries accusing the date of lying to you within seconds of meeting him, at least Kate finally asks is the guy all right. Heh.
So can we hear more about how Jeremiah saved some guy with his mad CPR skillz? Sounds way more interesting than watching a date with Kate. Kate should be able to relate to this anyway, as she's been on life support for years.

The holey shirt is just really bad. It doesn't look fashionable, it looks like it needs a box full of moth balls to store it in.

The escape room they're going to do looks good, it's a "runaway train" and they put them in a car. They start opening drawers and reading numbers and trying to piece it together. They realize looking at various clues they have to hold hands to get to the next step, which Kate is happy to do because it will help them win the game.

Did Rachel just hop on a radio to give them a hint? I hear her voice in the train! That would have annoyed the shit out of me! They're doing really well in this room, and nobody was asking for hints, Rachel. Good Lord, she is the worst. I know I'm ridiculous, but I would not feel like I really completed this room if I did so with the help of even the tiniest of hints.

This honestly looks like a good escape room. I would do this one. Jeremiah tells Kate he loves her if this works as she tries to open a door with the provided glove. It works! He loves her! They solve the puzzle with 5 minutes to spare. That's pretty good.

Jeremiah couldn't really detect any sparks from Kate. She was really into the train, he remarks. What, did it have gravy on it?

After the escape room Rachel takes Kate to aerial yoga, which Kate pretty accurately describes as cirque du soleil. Wait, where's Jeremiah? I thought Kate was supposed to be dating him, not Rachel. What a weird interruption. And what's poor Jeremiah going to do while they do yoga? Maybe he could go check in on how that guy he gave CPR to is doing. Did anyone else notice that nobody said when Jeremiah arrived all sweaty, so hey, Jeremiah, do you need a minute or two to regroup and process that you just gave CPR to a half-dead man? Not Kate and not even dumb Rachel, who looked pretty nervous during all that that this might throw off her schedule to great fame and fortune.

The TLCgo app is playing a little nicer for me since I last used it, not cycling back to the beginning of the show every time I pause it, which was a giant pain when recapping because I need to pause the thing dozens of times. It still freezes at times, but not frequently.

"We're going to have fun!" Rachel says in a really bossy tone. I never expected to find Rachel even more annoying than Kate, but man alive, she grates. I can't stand when people tell grown adults how to feel or what to enjoy. We're not three and need to be told go try that slide Daddy will catch you you'll love it! Geez, let people decide for themselves! It wouldn't be a strange thing to not like swinging from some hammock doing yoga. Many people don't like hammocks, still more hate yoga. So you're combining two things together that many people hate even independent of each other. And some people who may love yoga may not like hammocks, and some people who are fine with hammocks might not like yoga. So that's a whole lot of people who legitimately wouldn't like this activity. This is turning into an LSAT problem. Anyway, I can't see myself liking this yoga thing in a million years, and for all Kate's faults, there is nothing wrong with her for not liking this either.

Mady says they're old enough to take care of themselves now so Kate can afford to break some legs during this exercise. I think Mady thinks everything she says is funny and clever. Helen Keller says something! And it was something to make fun of Kate. She laughs and says Kate would be one foot off the ground during this swinging yoga thing. Heh.

The millennial yoga instructor talks like she has a giant jawbreaker in her mouth. Weird.

They're mostly swinging stupidly in the stupid aerial fabrics and Kate's right again, which I hate, she was afraid to look stupid and her fears were realized, because they look just stupid.

Kate acknowledges she has a hard time following instructions. That's true, we've seen that. She doesn't listen, or questions the instructions, or listens but then does her own thing. That's the narcissism I think, thinking that you know better than someone who took the time to lay out instructions for you and probably knows far more about the subject than you ever will, and also probably is pretty knowledgable about your safety and what you should do and not do to remain safe. Also, just saying, a lot of people on the spectrum report that verbal instructions are very difficult for them, unless you give them the instructions one at a time and wait for them to fully complete one instruction before ever going on to the next instruction. I mean, if the shoe fits.

A producer asks Rachel if Kate was jealous the instructor was spending so much time with her. Rachel makes a so cute, so innocent, so funny face, teehee! You're so cute Rachel! Actually just kidding you're not cute at all you're repugnant.

Mady says Kate never relaxes. Yes, we're aware. The instructor finally gets Kate into a nice cocoon in the fabric and she softly swings and closes her eyes and seems to enjoy it. That's nice I guess, but I still prefer my tempur-pedic. No maneuvering or yoga required at all, you just plop onto it and you're done.

Rachel offers Kate some lame affirmations like she's going to relax now, and come out of her cocoon as a butterfly ready and able to try new things. Does Rachel think we are in kindergarten here? Sounds like something Miss Ryan said to us in my class when I was five. And I thought it was stupid even then. This is a grown ass woman, Rachel, who is swinging from a fabric hammock, she is not a cocoon and she is not a butterfly. Grow up.

Mady explains that if Kate wants to relax at home she'll make her bed or lay with the dogs, but she doesn't relax much because she's so busy. This is the second time in two episodes Mady has insisted Kate is busy. What is she so darn busy with? Nobody ever offers any specifics, and I guess the producer is too occupied with Jeremiah's muscles to probe any deeper into this lie.

Rachel surmises that because she got Kate to open up to this yoga activity, she hopes Kate can be open to a relationship. At least this dumb Rachel chick is finally starting to understand how closed off Kate is to human emotion and that this is the crux of most of her issues, but I really don't think one overpriced trendy yoga class is going to have any impact. Now a psychologist and some medication might.

I guess now Jeremiah and Kate will have dinner, and I still want to know what all he did with himself when he was so rudely ditched for the yoga class.

Something feels a little bit ick to me about Rachel now treating this date as if it's a chance for Kate to just "practice" dating, like flirting and opening up. Excuse me, but Jeremiah is a real person. Sure he's probably an actor, but from what I can tell, he's making a sincere effort to be open to Kate as a real possible dating prospect. Same for the two others guys before her, who really seemed game to give this a go for real. If you want to just "practice" dating, then have a true actor come in and help Kate role play, everyone knowing they're not really having a date. Don't do it on real people!

Kate pulls up in her mediocre taxi again, baw-haha. She's wearing a purple leopard print cocktail dress. Rachel calls her a hot mama.



It's kind of sad that Rachel's pep talk before the date consists of reminding Kate to ask questions, smile and enjoy herself. Well, Rachel's not wrong, Kate really does need help with the basics, like just be a normal person on a date for starters. Good grief.

Kate has come up with a nickname for Rachel, "date mom" because she is acting like a mom giving advice. That's an overtly kind name. My less than nice name for Rachel is "repugnant doofus."

Jeremiah meets Kate at dinner and genuinely seems to think she's stunning. Men really do think with their ... eyes .... don't they? I think those of us who have been following Kate for all these years and know what a nasty heart she has are so disenchanted with Kate we could never see her as beautiful again even if she were to morph into Ursula Andress.

Kate tells Rachel she can leave now and she'll call her if she needs her to open her juice box. Was that snark I detected from Kate? I kind of resent the fact that I'm cheering for Kate against dumb Rachel. There should be no scenario allowed where anyone roots for Kate, but here we are.

Jeremiah really seems blown away at how breathtaking Kate is. I mean, she looks pretty I guess, but good heavens you would think the guy just happened upon the Dolomites during a misty pink sunrise, dew clinging to his holey shirt. Calm down, buddy. Kate didn't like these compliments, they were excessive. Kate is right, it's excessive.

Jeremiah is pretty vague about working odd jobs in the city from time to time. He's totally an actor, why won't they just say it? He has five kids ages two to 18. With how many mothers, Jeremiah? I think that's a fair question. No way in hell Kate wants to take on a kid in diapers, and sure enough, she doesn't.

By the way it's no secret Cara is getting a lot of attention for being so quiet on her couch interviews with various speculation why, but in case you're worried if all the remarks about this bothers her, don't be. Cara says blankly that five kids is a lot of kids. She then looks at Mady with a giggle and says "You like my input on that one?" Heh. Mady chuckles and says she's really stepping it up here. They both smile and laugh. For whatever Cara's reasons for being a woman of little words, she's clearly comfortable with it, and takes any teasing even from her own sister in stride. And hey, Cara, if you happen to mosey on over here anytime, talking less and listening more is a virtue.

Rachel, why on God's green earth would you pick this guy for Kate? Nice doesn't cut it! (Okay I get that Rachel didn't really pick him and she's just an actor herself, but since the show is acting like she found these guys for Kate, I'm just rolling with it.)

The twins jump in to say NO KIDS. So, if the girls said no kids, and Kate doesn't really seem to want someone with kids either at least not young ones, how come her first three dates have kids? Are they trying to waste everyone's time, or does it just come naturally?

Mady has quite a convoluted explanation for not wanting kids, because she doesn't want an older kid to reach a milestone before she does. That sounds selfish and spoiled, I'm just saying. She wants her mom to find love but only on her strict and unreasonable terms. That is selfish and spoiled and if it were anyone other than Kate I would want that girl to shape up and stop making her mother's happiness for the rest of her life all about her.

Is Jeremiah straight from the pages of a romance novel? He loves that Kate has kids because if they blend their two big beautiful families together, they'll have one thing in common: Kate. Geez, I'd hate for that to be the one thing anyone has in common.


I think Kate is proud of the fact that the kids (allegedly) fight about who will take care of her when she is old. Jeremiah, who is normal, looks confused and says um, wouldn't that be where a partner comes in? Correct Jeremiah. While it's wonderful when kids are willing and able to help out an aging parent, one should not burden them at this age with the responsibility of thinking it all falls to them when a parent gets old. Kate should be reassuring her kids if they even say such things that they need not worry about her, she will figure things out, and she will be sure she is well taken care of as she ages so that the time they spend together can be mostly just nice family time and not solely focused on "taking care of her." Parentification. It's not cool, and Jeremiah to his credit spotted it right off.

Kate lets her guard down ever so slightly to talk about the incredible love she witnessed between her grandparents, and it's the reason she believes in love. Jeremiah had a similar experience with his grandparents. While I feel the same about my grandparents, this seems a little mean to her own parents to imply on camera the only real love she ever saw certainly wasn't her parents. Sheesh. She also loves to rewrite the narrative about Jon as if it was a hot mess from the start, when it actuality she has made it clear many times before the divorce she was deeply in love with Jon when they married and perhaps for years afterward. Just because she fell out of love with him years later doesn't erase what happened before, as much as she loves to use her little swiffer there.

The date ends with a kiss on the cheek Kate mercifully doesn't try to dodge, and Jeremiah over there is still swooning over Kate.

Kate, however, is stuck on the diapers. No way, no how, is basically her comment.

This almost makes me legitimately mad, because poor sweet Jeremiah here actually thinks he has a chance with Kate, and even though it was just one date, he seems so sensitive that it's probably going to hurt him at least a little when Kate never calls again. This is just wrong. Look, Kate doesn't want a guy with kids, as hypocritical as that is, that's her stance and she's entitled to it. Therefore, none of these dates of hers should have kids, Rachel. Or at most perhaps they could have one or two adult kids, that I think Kate would be okay with. You shouldn't conduct a social experiment like this on real people, it's not right. There's a reason when you go on a dating site that they ask you basic questions like your religion, do you want kids, your age parameters, etc., and then they ask you how important all of these parameters are to you. Because if it's a deal breaker for you, say so, and they won't set you up with someone not suitable to begin with and then everyone just ends up hurt.

Dense Rachel says she needs to figure out is this kids thing a deal breaker for Kate? She claims Kate goes back and forth. Oh my God, it's so blatantly obvious she doesn't want a guy with kids, Rachel, I don't care how much she vacillates, she doesn't want it. Wake up. The only remote possibility I can think of why Kate might be a little indecisive about this is she'll take five kids if you have like 5 million dollars to back it up. Then she could just hire a full time live in nanny for everyone and be done with it. But I still think she would prefer you just don't have kids in the first place.

And for her second date of the episode, Rosario, the Italian Aleksandr Petrovsky. That was one of Carrie Bradshaw's worst relationships. He beat her, and she left everyone who cared about her most to go live with him in Paris, but man alive, he could be so sexy.

Wait a second, what happened to Rachel trying to figure out if Kate wants to date a guy with kids? That dumb Rachel needs to finish her thought, especially ones so important!

They woosh down from New York to Rosario in what feels like a supersonic jet. He's 50, an opera singer, divorced of course! And super sexy! He has striking Caribbean blue eyes. Uh oh uh oh uh oh. He looks short. Shorter than Kate! Shit, he's done.

Rosario gives her a tour of some stage. They don't really explain where this is or what is going on, but it doesn't matter, because Rosario and his accent are just hot.

I do highly recommend everyone hear an opera singer in person at some point in your life, even if you think it's going to be boring. I saw Renee Fleming do a solo performance in Los Angeles with just her and a piano, and it was stunning. There is no sound system in the world that can do justice to the power and richness of her voice. Renee Fleming and I are many years apart in age but shared the same music teacher at one point, she when he was just starting out, and me a few years shy of his retirement. It was a special night to be in the presence of one of his most successful students.

I quickly found a lot about Rosario by googling, and he's a legit opera singer. But check this out, according to his own web site he resides in San Diegopeople. Oh yeah, this relationship could work. Eye roll. The internet also says he does the occasional acting job including reality shows. Heh, sounds like he's another guy doing a day job but really wants to be an actor. Yeesh.

Rosario takes her around the orchestra pit where she proceeds to tap on drums and things like a freaking eight-year-old. Rosario is chill about this when he has every right to tell her to not do that, but oh my god, I hope none of the musicians are watching because I'm sure they'd be having a meltdown.

Kate asks Rosario what operas he has done. Oh, does she know operas? Lol, her blank expression is actually a bit funny when he starts rattling off a bunch of Italian names most people wouldn't know. I mean, good for her asking questions, but it's silly to ask a question where you know you won't understand the answer. How about, what was your favorite opera you've done and what was it about?

You know I had an idea, if Rachel were a competent coach, this all might work so much better if there were a little earpiece in Kate's ear for Rachel to give her tips and instruction in real time as the date goes on. Regrouping with her afterward to say a few useless things that are probably too late to fix anyway doesn't seem to be helpful to Kate.

The girls crack up talking about how Kate can't sing. Is there something kind of strange about teens made to sit there and talk incessantly about their mother? I mean who at that age even pays attention to their mother?

Rosario touches Kate's back as her leads her to the stage and Kate seems fine with it. Rachel is creepily spying on all this and I feel like she's giving herself all the credit for Kate not recoiling when Rosario touches her, I can see it on her face. Touching makes people more comfortable and he does it because that's the Italian way, Rosario explains. Uh-oh, I don't think poor Rosario paid much attention to the MeToo movement. Eek!

Here's his instagram by the way. A whole lot of muscular selfies, not a whole lot of substance. But hey at least the guy seems to be living a reasonably full life. Lots of traveling and working, doesn't look like a whole lot of friends or significant others. Such can be life in the entertainment business.

Rosario starts singing a short version of O sole mio to her, and he's amazing. Love it. Kate to her credit seems to genuinely enjoy it. She's got a big smile on her face and is hanging on every note, clapping enthusiastically at the end. Good for her, I'm glad something broke through to her. O sole mio's lyrics are really nice, it's about a man who is admiring the beauty of nature but realizes it can't compare to the one he loves. She'll find a reason this guy is not suitable soon enough, I'm just patiently waiting for it.

Hey, there's Rachel up high spying from the Lincoln box. Gosh, I'd hate to see anything happen to her up there. Too much?
Cara does more talking than she ever has about how it would be so strange to her to be serenaded.

There's some weird editing in this episode. Rosario is rudely ditched just like Jeremiah was before, and suddenly Kate is with Cara and Mady on some random couch that doesn't look like home showing them the video of Rosario singing. The girls are not impressed because who would be impressed at their age with their mother's dating life? And all of a sudden Kate's back on the street dressed for dinner. What the heck was that little interlude and how did it fit right there?

Does Kate like this guy? There's something different about her answers this time when Rachel asks her boring questions about part one of the date. And how come she hasn't said anything about his very obvious short stature? That was such a big honking problem for her last time dating Todd, now it's a non-issue? She's certifiable.

Rachel says it's hard to help Kate because she's so guarded. No Rachel, it's hard to help Kate at all because you stink at your job and were too lazy to even do some preliminary research on this woman that would give you a little bit of context here.

They sit down to dinner and Rosario talks about how he had his own restaurant for years. Oh this guy seems like quite the do-er. That's what I call people who don't really talk about the things they want to do and instead just do them. This isn't going to work with someone more like Kate who mostly just is a talker, a person who rarely or never does the things they talk about. I just love an Italian accent, I think because it reminds me of growing up, when great aunts and uncles, their significant others, and even some cousins visiting would speak in broken English just like Rosario. When I hear the accent, I picture my Uncle Nino stirring a big pot of tomato sauce on the stove over New Year's, asking us kids to go sit down it was almost ready how many meatballs would we like? And Aunt Agnes would be putting out more plates and cutlery for the friends and family that just walked in, muttering this or that word in Italian as she worked. Thanks, Rosario for the nostalgia.

Rosario says he moved here to the USA a few years ago to San Diego. Kate doesn't say anything rational like San Diego? How the heck would this ever work? Also it wasn't a few years ago, it was ten years ago, 2009, according to his own web site. But it's okay because Rosario is a guy and they tend to overgeneralize like that, and he's really cute, so it's even more okay.

Rosario said he was visiting the USA for two weeks and then decided to just stay. Heh, how did he work that out? You usually can't just keep staying after your vacation is over, certainly not for ten years. That's called overextending your visa, lol. Maybe Kate could turn him in to her old friend Trump for ransom!

Kate bemoans that she and the kids have never been to Italy or even Europe, and you can see it in her eyes she still blames Jon for the trips getting cut off. And she's so damn stubborn she's still waiting for the show, or someone like Rosario, to pay for the trip. She won't go otherwise, I guarantee you.

I guess Rosario is another one that doesn't know who the F Kate is, because when she brings up the eight kids thing he's basically like, I'm sorry? Heh! And apparently Rosario doesn't understand the concept of multiples, because he can't work out how the kids' ages are just 14 and 18.

He follows Kate on instagram, by the way, but she can't be bothered to follow him back.

Oh, he doesn't have kids! He's looking better and better! Hey, shouldn't Kate say I gave birth to eight kids instead of I have eight kids? Because she really only "has" six kids right now.

If Kate doesn't want Rosario could I have him? He suggests they have a limoncello after dinner. I've been to Italy three times now because of my family's close roots there, and I'm headed back a fourth time next year, and the meals there are the most beautiful way to eat in the world in so many ways. But at the end of meals in many parts of Italy, they usually finish it off with a small glass of limoncello, which is like alcoholic lemonade. It's wonderfully refreshing and a great pallet cleanser. But it's not just for meals! One time we were on the last leg of a pretty long hike between two towns and around the corner who should appear but a farmer and his limoncello stand for one euro a glass. I never thought I would want a shot after a long hike, but that was the most delicious little glass of liquor I've ever had. The Italians are some of the most wonderful people in the world and if anyone ever gets a chance to date one, do it!

Rachel awkwardly swoops in at yet another bad time while they're sipping their lemoncellos and enjoying their conversation, and Kate deadpans, "do you know her?" Dang, Kate is really riding this woman, and stupid Rachel deserves every bit of it. Rachel claims they need to go because they're shutting down the place. Um, does Rachel own this restaurant? Why don't you let the people who work at the restaurant decide when to ask their customers politely to leave so they can shut down? There's other people still drinking full wine glasses in the background, butt out, Rachel!

"I don't want to interrupt," Rachel says. Well then why did you Rachel? Geez.

Yep here we go, Kate says yes he was interesting but there was no connection or attraction. Of course there wasn't, because she's in love with Steve and. doesn't. really. want. to. date. See ya, Rosario.

Rosario makes polite comments that he had fun, but I'm not getting the feeling at all he had any kind of connection with Kate either. This is good, because the three guys before her I think did feel a little something even if superficial, and they're going to be hurt when they never hear from her again.

Rosario goes off into the moonlight I guess to find his phone and friend Kate on instagram and never get a friend request back.

Haha, Kate makes fun of Rachel for saying "feeling all the feels." As she should!

Oh, man, if Kate and Rachel were friends before they won't be after Rachel sees this episode. Kate basically says she really wonders if Rachel is picking up on any of the clues Kate is leaving for her. Basically, Rachel sucks at her job is what she's saying. I concur!

Rachel says Kate needs to want to make out with someone. Ew, that's so uncouth, Rachel! And why must she anyhow? Has Rachel really been honest with herself and asked herself why are we trying to pair up Kate anyway? Kate doesn't want a boyfriend, clearly, and any boyfriend who thinks they want her won't soon enough. Just let her be her little asexual self and drink her wine in bed and wallow in her delusions of reality shows the rest of her life, what's it hurting? Except for the repugnant doofus's checkbook.

With the caveat that yes I understand this is all fake and just a money-grab Kate pushed for, I'm starting to realize there is something deeply, deeply sexist about this show. Here's Kate who actually doesn't want a man, if she's being honest with herself and others. Maybe it's because she already has Steve, maybe it's because she has Steve in her head and that's enough, or maybe it's because she's asexual. Who knows, who cares. Point is, she has made the choice she would like to do life solo, without a partner. Now sure there are times when she gets lonely, just like most people in relationships have times where they kind of would like a break from their partner if only for a day. But overall, she's content being alone.

So, if we are to believe in today's society women should be in control of their own destiny, who they are with, what gender they are with, how many kids they should have if any, what they would like to do for work, shouldn't that also include whether they are in a relationship at all? And if a modern woman makes a conscious decision to go solo, as some actually do albeit a minority, then aren't we as a society acting completely contrary to woman's lib by pushing against that with the idea they must pair up with a man?

Rachel is ramming men down Kate's throat when all the signs have shown Rachel she doesn't want it, which is deeply disrespectful of Kate's wishes as a woman for her life. (Again with the caveat, I understand  Kate seems to want to do this show and is asking for it). And that's what is so incredibly sexist about this show, the deep disrespect of a woman's obvious feelings about relationships, and the antiquated idea that Kate can't really be happy, or have someone to care for her, or not be lonely, without a suitable man.

A realer show would involve Rachel after four dates right now sitting down with Kate and saying level with me, let's talk about the fact that you don't want to date or want a man. And it's okay, Kate. That decision is fine. What's not fine is myself and others not acknowledging it or respecting it.

And if by chance Kate insists no no you're wrong I do want to be with someone, then they need to stop all this dating and send her to therapy so she can at least try to get herself in a mental state even close to being ready to being open to a partner.

Yes, I get it, that would end the show right now. Which I'm okay with.

Meanwhile, Kate says she would pick Rosario over Jeremiah (but really she would prefer neither, people). Likely that's only because Rosario is her best bet for a free trip to Europe, however remote. On the next Kate Plus Date, Rachel scrounges up a childless 40-something for Kate, and for her second date, a deaf mute, which I actually think would be perfect for Kate and Mady since they like to talk so much, they could have the whole floor with that guy. And the show doesn't say yet but we all know, neither guy will be suitable to Kate.

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FYI said...

He has five kids ages two to 18. With how many mothers, Jeremiah?
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TLC posted the dinner part of this date on twitter. He said his kids are ages 2, 5, 8, 11 & 18.

He also says he has been divorced "officially since February 2015."

Things that make you go hmm and wonder who the mother of his 2 year old is. Ex-wife, former girlfriend? Do any of the kids have the same mother?

Here's the clip:

https://twitter.com/TLC/status/1140684281955725315

BTW, I've wondered why all the dates state their last names. When she "dated" Vann his last name wasn't mentioned.

Is it because they want people to know who they are so that they can get more gigs, either on reality TV or in other entertainment venues?

FYI said...

Bringing my comment over here that I posted on the last thread:
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From the recap:

Kate has trust issues, feels burned by friends, family, and people she doesn't even know. What people she doesn't know? Of course she is the victim in all this and did nothing wrong to cause this apparent constant discord in her life.


Speaking of friends. I noticed that Deanna is no longer doing her makeup for the show. Two other makeup artists are listed in the credits, Rena Goodwin and Elizabeth Yoon. Uncle Ronnie is still around though.

I went back and checked the last 3 episodes that aired in July 2017 and both Ronnie and Deanna were the only ones listed under hair & makeup then.

I guess Deanna didn't know how to help her or Deanna is pissed that she didn't get to play matchmaker like she did with Vann and Kate.

Apparently, another friend is gone. They should've play Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" in this episode instead of "Somebody to Love".

Sad but true said...

FYI said... 2

I bet the inclusion of "Uncle" Ronnie was one of the twins' conditions of participating in this nonsense. They both seem enamored.

Giff said...

It's a good thing this is all fake. If I was the mother of his children and he ever tried to take them around her, that would not end well with me. But in true reality, Collin seems so happy and appreciative of his new and greatly improved mom, Colleen. Maybe ultimately, her abandoning him was the best thing she has done for him.

Former Lurker said...

I've already posted about this "date", Jeremiah. Like all the others on this Fake Date show, he simply answered a casting call. Looking at his Instagram tells us that he's an actor, model, fitness model who lives in NJ. He has an agent and a manager. He's done commercials, some background and extra spots on TV, and a play.

https://www.instagram.com/_jeremiahclarke/

Jeremiah Clarke
DREAM CHASER 〰️ RISK TAKER
⚫ NJ / NYC / ATL
⚫ Managed by: @thetalentexpress
⚫ Agency: @bmg.talent
⚫ @aimangryinsecuremen

Former Lurker said...

From the last thread:

Layla said... 172

I've had Say Yes To The Dress on in the background for more than an hour, and I haven't seen a single promo for Kate Plus Date. They have one on constantly that starts off with, "Tonight on TLC" and then a promo for 90 Day Fiance The Other Way. No mention of K8+D8, which also airs tonight.

If ratings don't go up this week after several press days and the Jeff the Millionaire story, then the show is a bust. Both Kate and TLC have done everything necessary to promote it and if that's not enough then they just need to get over her. She will never bring in the ratings no matter what. I'm waiting for her to start pressuring her few remaining fans to wander around parking lots with "Watch Kate Plus Date" signs.

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With her bicoastal "press tour" last week, she better hit 1 million in the ratings tonight. (No, I don't expect that to happen, but it should given all the press).

That crazy fan who did the video with the sign pimping the show in the Walmart parking lot - is she even around anymore?

PatK said...

I just read in the last thread about Jeff the millionaire coming out to call Kate a liar. He stated they dated for almost TWO years?? I thought it was like a six-month thing at most. Color me shocked.

AuntieAnn said...

Well thanks for the recap again. It sure saves the agony of watching.

By the sound of it Rachel doesn't get that this show isn't really about promoting her business, it's about Kate and only Kate. Or in her own words, it's tv baby, and Kate will do anything including getting pushed off tall buildings to stay on it so she may as well quit trying to actually help her, if that's truly her intent.

That aerial yoga class sounds strange. I think Rachel would have been better off telling the shrew to imagine herself as a pod and will emerge as the mother xenomorph in the movie Aliens. She could have related better to that.

And I agree with you about beautiful Italy and the people there. I was ready to pack my bags and move there the very first time I watched Under the Tuscon Sun years ago.

ncgirl said...

"Mady says they're old enough to take care of themselves now so Kate can afford to break some legs during this exercise."

Mady must be referring to the times Kate said she couldn't do too much physical stuff because she had 8 kids to look after and couldn't get hurt. I think that was in the ice skating show.

And the wonderful dead grandparents again. Basically, Kate's parents were mean to her(in her mind), and her grandparents, like many grandparents, spoiled her. It's usually easy for the grandparents to indulge because they don't normally do all the parenting work.

Thanks for the recap. If Rachel knew Kate at all, she would know Kate wouldn't want young kids. She didn't have much patience with her own toddlers. Guys with young kids should be given Robert Hoffman's book.



NJGal51 said...

My eyes are crossed from reading this....how did you ever sit through it let alone recap it!

Jamesvader1194 said...

On the topic from last thread about Jeff.I remember when he came out and called Jon a deadbeat dad and then praised Kate.Now that hes coming out with this,i want to say that this gives more evidence that the whole thing was Kate.This guy had no idea who Jon was and i haven't read anywhere that this guy watched the show.There was no reason for him to go after Jon and he could of just left out that part and just praised Kate but he didn't.

LisaNH said...

I don't post here as much as I used to when the whole Jon and Kate Divorce was in the works. I did see an ad for this horror show while watching Dr. Pimple Popper (LOL). Admin, thanks for taking for the team, as you have always done. What craziness. Seriously! I'd much rather watch "Married at First Sight" than this catastrophe of a tv show. I'm surprised Kate didn't sign up for that show, since it's only 8 weeks and you can get divorced when the husband doesn't understand how to teach her how to dance....oh wait, that was Dancing with the Stars. Same scenario different show. Rachel doesn't know how to listen to Kate's needs and wants like Tony D. couldn't figure out how to teach her how to dance.

Sad but true said...

C'mon Katie! It's 10 minutes to show time, surely all the kids (8 - 2) should be crowded on your bed now, chattering with excitement. Aren't you coming out to play tonight? :)

JustMissy said...

Schmoopy must be moping. 10 minutes to airtime and not a peep out of her. Way to promote your shit-show, Kate. Can she get any lazier?

Former Lurker said...

Jamesvader1194 (11), I think the news of TFW dating Jeff came out during a time when I wasn't reading here much. So, I went back today and found the old thread where the conversation started, and I also read a couple of old articles. I saw one article that quoted Jeff as saying Jon was a "deadbeat dad", like you mentioned. That's outrageous for anyone to publicly say something like that about the ex of someone he's dating.

Obviously, all his info came only from TFW and he should be smart enough to realize that. More importantly, the fact that he said that with no concern for the feelings of their eight kids makes me completely despise this tool. He had no right at all to publicly say anything disparaging about Jon.

I still don't know all the details about how they met or if they actually dated and for how long. I find it hard to believe that anyone would date her for more than a month or so before they'd finally have her number. Actually, it should be obvious before even the first date.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true (#13), she must still be exhaustedish from her big "press tour" last week.

I just looked at TLC's twitter and they've been retweeting viewers' tweets throughout the entire hour of 90 Day FiancΓ©. Let's see if they do that for Khate Plus Fake Date.

Sad but true said...

And here she is!

kateplusmy8
Verified
#KatePlusDate starts NOW on @TLC ... you watching? #Episode2

I have no idea where she is. But I'm sure this photo was not taken this evening.

Former Lurker said...

She just did the obligatory IG post:

https://www.instagram.com/p/By1WXZLDBbC/

#KatePlusDate starts NOW on @TLC ... you watching? #Episode2

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That's all you have, TFW? It sure is lacking in enthusiasm and excitement. Something tells me she already knows that the dismal ratings mean this was a one shot deal, one lousy six episode season and that's it.

Former Lurker said...

Rosario the opera singer posted this on IG yesterday:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Byx6rWunNsm/?hl=en

rosariomonetti
-So this is a 30 seconds trailer for the TV show “Kate plus Date” where I went on a date with Kate Gosselin of “Kate plus 8”.
It was a lot of fun and she is wonderful!!
The episode will be aired on TLC on Monday June 17th at 10pm. 😁 -
-Eccolo, questo Γ¨ il nuovo trailer di 30 secondi del TV Show “Kate plus Date” dove io sono andato ad un appuntamento con Kate Gosselin di “Kate plus 8”.
È stato molto divertente e lei è meravigliosa!!
L’episodio sara’ trasmesso il 17 Giugno sul canale satellitare TLC alle 10 di sera, ora Californiana. 😁
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#rosariomonetti #tlc #reality #performingarts #singing #sandiegomusicians #singingishappiness #sandiego #love #losangeles #ladolcevita #ladolcevitaly #lawofattraction #livingthedream #livingthelife #lavitachevoglio #italy #italian #italianstyle #napoli #napoletano #kateplusdate #kategosselin #opera #operahouse #operastage #operasinger #orgoglionapoletano #tenor #musicproducerstudio

Former Lurker said...

Just like the Jeremiah "date", this Rosario guy uses hashtag #actor and #acting in a lot of his IG posts.

Giff said...

What a loser the Prescott guy is. How dare he say that about Jon. He broke up with Kate for one of the exact same reasons Jon did...the filming and attention was affecting his children in a negative way. I wonder if knowing what he knows now if he feels the same way? She lied about her relationship with him just like she lied about her relationship with Jon.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin,lordy be,this was a riot! You had me cackling more than once! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this -- somehow making a silk purse out of a heifer's ear!

Sad but true said...

Kate's only comment thus far:

kateplusmy8
Verified
What do you think so far of episode #2 of #KatePlusDate ? Comment and let me know!!!

Fact is, she's not getting many comments at all on her IG, and there are more than a few negative ones. Boohoo.

Sad but true said...

Hoo-ah!

michasaoud
Bitch YOU GOT 8 fucking kids so for you to put that poor guy down for having 5 kids is hilarious and super hypocritical of you πŸ™„ your two daughters that are also acting all snobby towards that man for having kids are full of shit themselves and if I were you I would be advising them not only to be humble but also not to PAINT THEIR UGLY FACES WITH ALL THAT MAKEUP because guess what lady? THEY STILL LOOL UGLY. I wish I was able to go through my tv screen and slap all 3 of you for disrespecting that man and his family. YOU ARE KNOWN FOR BEING A BITCH WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO DATE YOU OR YOUR NASTY DAUGHTERS πŸ™„ THAT BLACK MAN DODGED A BULLET NOT DATING YOUR FUCKING ASS

Well, she DID ask for comments. :)

NJGal51 said...

TFW is posing with a clapperboard in the IG picture with the numbers 12 3 6 20 19 (maybe the date it was filmed and the projected air date?). Are those hotel slippers she’s wearing? It looks like she just posed for the picture in a hotel conference room. One long time fan (Denise) has posted multiple tiles and TFW isn’t in a posting frenzy like she was last week. She’s asking people to post comments letting her know what they think of the “episode” (her word) so far. She must see the writing on the wall.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin,lordy be,this was a riot! You had me cackling more than once! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this -- somehow making a silk purse out of a heifer's ear!


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Thank you, it was not easy.

Sad but true said...

kateplusmy8
Verified
Can you tell I’m trying not to cry? It was Sooooo amazing to be serenaded by Rosario! πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯

No, I actually watched that clip and you looked hyper-aware of the camera locations. Pretty much as usual.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true said... 17

And here she is!

kateplusmy8
Verified
#KatePlusDate starts NOW on @TLC ... you watching? #Episode2

I have no idea where she is. But I'm sure this photo was not taken this evening.

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It looks like that pic was taken during filming in NYC at the JW Marriott Essex House where they seemed to film the talking head segments (according to what I've seen at Rachel's IG). According to her IG, she stayed there while in NYC. I think that's the hotel where TLC usually puts TFW and Skeeve.

Former Lurker said...

A comment on Rachel's IG post:

"You have the patience of a saint! I want to smack Kate upside her head. Its obvious why shes still single. Shes just rude and obnoxious. Seeing you was the only reason I even stopped on the channel."

Sad but true said...

Wow. Only 155 IG comments for the hours and 4,490 likes. Methinks this is destined for the trash heap. K8 pretty much didn't participate at all.

Former Lurker said...

TLC didn't bother to post anything on IG for her show today or tonight. Last week, they posted on IG during the day and again when the show was just about to air that night. Now nothing at all promoting her show on IG.

Oh, TLC did posts on IG yesterday/Sunday night to promote 90 Day FiancΓ©, sMothered, and 90 Day FiancΓ©: Happily Ever After.

Layla said...

I checked the TLC Facebook page, and they announced that the 90-Day Fiance show was starting at 9--but no mention of K+Date at all. Could it be that they finally got the "everyone on the planet is sick of Kate Gosselin" memo, finally??

Former Lurker said...

In the hour before TFW's Fake Date show, TLC tweeted and retweeted, (mostly retweets using the show's hashtag), 63 times during the airing of 90 Day FiancΓ©. Then, during the airing of Khate Plus Fake Date, they did only 26 tweets and retweets.

I feel sorry for the poor sucker at TLC who has to comb through the tweets looking for something to retweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/KatePlusDate?src=hashtag_click

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


kateplusmy8
Verified
Can you tell I’m trying not to cry? It was Sooooo amazing to be serenaded by Rosario! πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯

No, I actually watched that clip and you looked hyper-aware of the camera locations. Pretty much as usual.


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Why won't she tag Rosario in her posts???? What's the problem?

I did notice he didn't tag her though, which is awkward, especially since he follows her.

FYI said...

NJGal51 said... 23
TFW is posing with a clapperboard in the IG picture with the numbers 12 3 6 20 19 (maybe the date it was filmed and the projected air date?).

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I looked up digital clapboards and this is what I found:

Digital slates mark the hour, minute, second and frame (1-30) of a production ensuring lip-sync editing and special visual effects have never been more precise.

So the numbers on the one Kate is holding most likely means the time was 12:36:30 and it was the 19th frame.

Anonymous said...

Giff 21- Former lurker 15
I’m playing devils advocate a little here.Kate is an opportunist. Jeff has wealth and is reasonably attractive. It’s possible, Jeff saw her pretty face and she sucked him in. She has a way of being charming. I could see her playing victim and Jeff bought into the lies about Jon. But he finally saw the light when he realized he was being used for the tv show idea she had. Its possible he changed his tune about Jon with all that’s come out about Kate in recent years. Here’s an old article detailing Kate’s controlling, and obsessiveness for fame. Kate is one sick individual and he probably regrets getting involved with her

https://us.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2016/09/kate-gosselin-ex-jeff-prescott-scared-off-by-kate-s-shocking-lies-kate-plus-8-obsession-001144337.html

“That lack of transparency was one of the things that scared Prescott off.He finally explained why he broke up with the reality show star. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Prescott broke up with "Kate Plus 8" because Kate is so wed to her eponymous show. Her ex painted a picture of a woman driven by a lust for attention whose every act was determined by whether is was camera worthy or not. Prescott said Gosselin would do anything for ratings, up to and including staging their first date and lying to fans.She maintained a sham single status despite the couple being so serious that they were house-hunting. That too was done for "Kate Plus 8." Gosselin wanted to save the relationship reveal for audiences and manage it on air. She even masterminded a spinoff dedicated to she and Prescott.”

“The boyfriend Prescott pulled out when he realized he would always be competing with the show for Kate's affection.”You'd think it would be Gosselin's eight children or even ex-husband Jon Gosselin that might get in the way. But no.It's not kids, another man, nor even a human that Prescott needed to be jealous of with Kate. It was her love of the limelight. The Dreamstime.com founder found he wanted a relationship with a real woman, not a reality show character.
Ouch!

Gigi Be

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Same scenario different show. Rachel doesn't know how to listen to Kate's needs and wants like Tony D. couldn't figure out how to teach her how to dance.

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Yep, that's what she said. It's not that Kate is the messed up one here, it's that her teacher doesn't know how to help her.

Rachel is a doofus but now I realize hearing Kate's comment that she's been leaving CLUES for Rachel and yet Rachel isn't helping her, that makes me a little more sympathetic to Rachel. Why on earth Kate are you dropping CLUES about things? Why don't you skip the hints and hemming and hawing and just outright tell her what she needs to know so that Rachel can stop wth the guessing games? What a silly and stupid way to interact with a teacher and expect results and then turn around and criticize them when they can't quite grasp your mind games.

Rachel is still stupid though, just making that clear.

Former Lurker said...

Gigi Be, thanks for that info. But, I still don't understand how anyone with a brain could be involved with her. She's not that good of an actress. They were looking for houses together? How could he be so duped by her??

The article says he was competing with the show for her affection. Ha, I just don't see her being affectionate at all. Even Mady and Cara both basically said she's a cold witch.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Gigi Be, thanks for that info. But, I still don't understand how anyone with a brain could be involved with her. She's not that good of an actress. They were looking for houses together? How could he be so duped by her??

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I'm betting they didn't see each other much, because he worked a lot and was out of town. He still should have figured her out, but not seeing her consistently means it would take longer to get her number.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My eyes are crossed from reading this....how did you ever sit through it let alone recap it!

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Rosario softened the blow a bit.

NJGal51 said...

Thank you FYI @29! Very interesting.

Well, TFW got less than 200 comments and only about 5.3K “likes”. As I said earlier, long time fan Denise posted multiple times as did the fan page jonkateplus8_forever. TFW put zero effort into it this week and Mady didn’t chime in at all. One would think that TLC would expect her to do a little promotion. I guess if they’re not paying her to do her mini press tour she can’t be bothered to promote it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's usually easy for the grandparents to indulge because they don't normally do all the parenting work.

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And not to diminish all the people who have witnessed good marriages of their grandparents including myself, but most of us are seeing the relationship at the tail end of it and you have to keep in mind you really don't know what happened before that point. We didn't see the times they had no money and were frustrated with each other and lashing out, or had four kids under 6, or lost the house, or grandpa had to go off to war, or the thought seriously of divorce. We weren't born yet.

At that point if you're still together, most people have figured out a way that it all just works and the hard times are long behind you. It's a little easier to present as this couple who just has it all figured out when a child is watching you and never saw the before time. You're not the one trying to have a marriage and dealing with diapers, finances, and other frustrations. My grandparents were mostly concerned with spoiling us on birthdays or any time and when the next senior citizen trip to Canada was. Life was simpler at that age, and so too are relationships.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I just read in the last thread about Jeff the millionaire coming out to call Kate a liar. He stated they dated for almost TWO years?? I thought it was like a six-month thing at most. Color me shocked.

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He originally said 9 months when he first gave that interview years ago. Now it's 2 years. I'm betting it's closer to two years, and the reason he originally said 9 months is he was trying not to look stupid wasting so much time with her.

But now that the bitch is lying about him and embarrassing him publicly, the gloves are off and he's like bitch it was two damn years and you know it and I have proof.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


“I texted her and said, ‘I can’t do this,'” he recalled, explaining that the rumors surrounding their relationship had already become too overwhelming.

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I like that after TWO YEARS the guy breaks up with her over text. LOL, she deserved that one.

Former Lurker said...

I still can't believe anyone would date TFW for more than a month. I'm not kidding. She's very cold and has such an attitude of superiority (she's completely delusional, because she's clearly below "mediocre"). She is such a boring perso, she does nothing with her life, has no interests other than trying to get on TV, and she never shows genuine interest in or concern for other people.

Also, if Jeff got involved with her and had never watched her show before, wouldn't he think of watching a few episodes and Google her a bit? I can't see anyone wanting to pursue a relationship with her.

Former Lurker said...

There's a real dearth of tweets about her show this week compared to last week. They're over 95% negative.

I can't wait to see the ratings tomorrow. Since the entire "press tour" was done after the premiere episode, the ratings should improve, right TFW? Lol lol.

AuntieAnn said...

I like that after TWO YEARS the guy breaks up with her over text. LOL, she deserved that one.

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He must have figured out it was the only way to communicate with her. That's how she parented the kids when they were young and she was away from them for weeks at a time chasing the spotlight. She's an emoji mom. A smiley face and a couple of hearts and her mothering job is done.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

He must have figured out it was the only way to communicate with her.

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Well in hindsight it was smart, because now he's got a record of what happened for when she lies.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Here’s a question. Does anyone understand why ANYONE would pay the likes of patty Stanger and Rachel DeAlto exhorbitant fees for their advice and match making skills when both of them are divorced and can’t get a relationship for themselves?? Smh. Conning and scamming at its best in my opinion

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I thought her divorce instantly gave her no credibly. That's not to say someone who is divorced can't have perfectly decent relationship advice, but if you're going to make money off it, I really think that near disqualifies you absent extraordinary circumstances.

Also there was not a whole lot to her advice that was unique or special or a brilliant out of the box idea, and she really hurt her credibility by taking no time to really study and understand Kate, it was like she went into the exercise with a blank slate, which was stupid if you want to be effective. So she's a woman that doesn't research, which is half that job. And when she did start to realize what Kate's issues are, she didn't seem to change up any of her advice to adjust.

Her advice is so not worth the money. Ask questions, relax? I mean, come on. Your girlfriend could tell you that.

Former Lurker said...

Brownie posted comments on Rachel's IG and on Rosario's IG.

Rachel's IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByzwciwAnf-/

frugalfit_hippiechick
This was such a great episode! I love your advice for her! You really helped her relax this episode! I love that!

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Rosario's IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Byx6rWunNsm/?hl=en

frugalfit_hippiechick
You were great!! Your voice is...WOW!!!

AuntieAnn said...

Well in hindsight it was smart, because now he's got a record of what happened for when she lies.

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Now THAT would be as good a gotcha as finding her journal in the trash can. She's been in 'the business' for over ten years and she's still clueless.

JTN said...

Did they pick these guys out of a casting call bingo hopper? Pre-screening people. It's a thing. If Flavor of Love and all those other VH1 shows could pre-screen for being clean of STDs as a condition of appearance, surely they could simply ask these men how many children they have...

For someone who wants a show so badly, she isn't doing herself any favors here. She would have been better off pulling an Anna Nicole Smith and bagging some wealthy ancient Pennsylvanian. She could then have all the drama and cash she wants while doing some sort of Brady Bunch except Mike Brady needs to be in a nursing home.
I guess what I'm saying is no person (other than an actor who wants exposure) in their right mind would willingly date on camera television's answer for Cruella de Vil who swapped out dalmatians for a human litter.
She needs to bag the guy off camera and then force him to film afterwards.

Former Lurker said...

Let's remember that Rachel is not actually here as a dating coach. This is a TV gig, that's it. She's already done two seasons of Married at First Sight. It looks like they replaced her with someone else, so she was looking for another TV job.

Tizzie said...

He said his kids are ages 2, 5, 8, 11 & 18.
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It's a good thing he's just a paid actor then, because Kate would just abuse his kids the way she has abused her own!

JoyinVirginia said...

Admin, thanks for the recap!
Tonight I was watching the 2 hour Bachelorette episode, mucho drama! and after that, at 10 PM, was the first episode of Grand Hotel, and it was good! Story about a family run hotel in Miami, with interesting characters, intrigue, family drama, romance, good looking people wearing fabulous clothes and jewelry, or daring bathing suits by the pool, in Miami! I'll be watching the next few episodes to see how the story develops. I think it will be a fun summer show!
No, TFMJG, I will not be watching this horrid excuse for a dating show, with the dippy relationship counselor.

Former Lurker said...

Oh sheesh, I knew it. Brownie also posted a comment on Jeremiah's IG:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByiCX1SFkrw/

frugalfit_hippiechick
This was a great episode!

_jeremiahclarke
@frugalfit_hippiechick πŸ™ it was such an amazing time..

Former Lurker said...

Weird. TLC already has episode 3 on their app:

Season 1 • Episode 3
Another One Bites the Dust

Can you have the best & worst dates of your life in the same week? Kate just might! Bowling, squash, and one not-so-romantic dinner will drive Kate to make some drastic decisions. But will her matchmaker be the one who doesn't get to the next round?

Winsomeone said...

The most important quality that Kate is looking for in a man, is that he be filthy rich. So far, none of the dates seem to have money?

Tizzie said...

Former Lurker said... 57
Weird. TLC already has episode 3 on their app:

Season 1 • Episode 3
Another One Bites the Dust

Can you have the best & worst dates of your life in the same week? Kate just might! Bowling, squash, and one not-so-romantic dinner will drive Kate to make some drastic decisions. But will her matchmaker be the one who doesn't get to the next round?

June 18, 2019 at 12:31 AM
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I recall reading here about a male matchmaker being involved in the show too... so I'm guessing that Kate gave Rachel the boot and the male matchmaker took her place?

Sad but true said...

Tizzie said... 59

I recall reading here about a male matchmaker being involved in the show too... so I'm guessing that Kate gave Rachel the boot and the male matchmaker took her place?
____

Yeah, I commented about this last week. Adam LoDolce. He appeared in a couple of the early promos for the show and even did a couple of posts on his IG, as Rachel did. Did they just cut him out before anything aired? Ah, the weirdness of all TV involving Katie Gosselin.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

LisaNH (#12), so nice to see you!

Admin, not to pass judgment on your Italian amore, but Opera Boy's hash tags are a sorry sight. I wish these people would just be honest:
#FameWhore#HireMe#DesperateMeausures
#INeedRent#KatePlusMeEqualsCash

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tizzie (#59), and can you imagine living your "realest" life, and then finding a blurb written about it for potential TV viewers? I'll take a shot with my day yesterday:
"FlimsyFlamsy decided to get a cheeseburger Happy Meal at the McDonald's drive-thru as a rare treat when she made a remarkable discovery: she could up-size the kids beverage for a large Diet Coke at no extra charge! Should she share this valuable information, or keep it to herself?"

PatK said...

Former Lurker said... 45
I still can't believe anyone would date TFW for more than a month.

*******************************

It depends on which head he's thinking with.

JoyinVirginia said...

FlimsyFlamsy, we should ALL write exciting blurbs about our realest really lives! I'll play!
"JoyinVirginia has a coupon for Subway, two subs for the price of one! What will she and her date choose? The sweet onion teriyaki chicken sub, or the club sub, or maybe a ham and cheese sub? should it be toasted? Should the subs be six inch or twelve inch? So many decisions! What will they choose? Next she has to go to the pharmacy to pick up blood pressure medication. Will she make it the before it closes, or will she spend too much time in Subway? "

FlimsyFlamsy said...

JoyInVirginia (#63), I love it! Will we have to wait a week to find out which subs you purchased, or can we download your next episode now?

FYI said...

Weird. TLC already has episode 3 on their app:

Season 1 • Episode 3
Another One Bites the Dust
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I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Seems like the ripped off the episode titles names from songs written by members of Queen.

1. Somebody to Love
2. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
3. Another One Bites the Dust

Is it because Kate thinks she's the queen in this episodes and her dates are the subjects of her kingdom?

My suggestions for the titles of the next 3 episodes from the list of Queen songs:

The Invisible Man
I Want It All
Stone Cold Crazy
I'm Going Slightly Mad
Liar
You Don't Fool Me

and for the finale:

The Loser in the End

FYI said...

I just googled "list of Kate plus Date episodes" and found the titles of the rest of the episodes.

4. I Want to Break Free
5. Under Pressure
6. We Are the Champions
(Of course, you just knew they had to use that one)

So they used names of Queen songs for all of the episode titles. I wonder who came up with that idea?

Must've been someone (the twins and/or Kate) who saw the movie "Bohemian Rhapsody" and thought "Hey, let's rip off our episode titles from Queen".

JoyinVirginia said...

FlimsyFlamsy, spoiler alert! we DID make it to the pharmacy in time!
Next episode: Did Joy remember to actually take her blood pressure pill? Tune in for suspenseful conclusion!

Sad but true said...

Well, TLC posted on their K8 page a short while ago that last night's episode is available on TLCgo. Not, like last week, NEXT week's episode. So was last week's "Early Premiere" post a mistake, or did Katie pitch a fit about how this was going to tank her viewer numbers? Hmmm . . . let me think. :)

FYI said...

Admin--FYI, Episode 3 is now available to watch, in case, you want to get started on the recap.

https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-date/

It's weird that they're releasing these episodes a week ahead of time, two weeks in a row. Seems like they want to get it over and done with.

It seems like they don't care what the ratings will be and I wonder if that is because no matter the ratings Kate is done, done, done as far as TLC is concerned.

Layla said...

FYI (65)
It may sound mean, but I'm hoping they used another Queen classic, "Fat Bottomed Girls" ;)


MikeB said...

FYI, you missed the obvious. Fat Bottomed Girls has to be included.

FreeCara said...

I half-watched the episode while playing solitaire and surfing the web. Kate displays no warmth toward other people. She wants to be a reality TV star, but she doesn't want to put in any effort! She gets a dating show, but makes no effort to be a good date! Both men seemed interesting and nice. Of course we know that they are paid actors, but the general public may not know that. Kate is a paid actor too. The "coach" is a paid actor. The dates are scripted. But the dialogue was not scripted at all. The two men were interesting and believable as men on dates. Because of their job as actors, they come across as believable. But Kate puts in no effort. It's like watching paint dry!

foxy said...

I was going to try and watch the show last night, but fell asleep during Mady's monologue. From what I have seen with the clips it looks as though Kate is angry that Rachel is trying to make this show about herself and it is getting Katie angry. Also the dates are really odd. They act like they are auditioning for their own benefit to get more work. Rosario has a nice voice, but it is an audition, why all the lovely set, etc. Maybe I will tey again next week.

Anonymous said...

Here’s some funny comments from Kate plus date’s fb page. It case Kate starts to wonder why the show isn’t doing so well. Lol . She’s her own worst enemy.

“ I was watching a sweet show about the sextuplets and then right away Kate’s brainless show starts playing a Queen song. Kate, don’t ruin Queen. I quickly changed the channel.”

“Kate is such a pessimist! Terrible show, couldn't even finish watching it. Kate needs a personality overhaul. Not a fan.....😏”
Omg the most boring annoying show. Had to turn off“

“I do hope she watches it back and maybe learns something about herself, like the fact that she frowns ALL THE TIME!!! Her wrinkles between her eyes are deep enough for a 70 yr old!!
And God love her, there is not an ounce of warmth to her!! Her personality could freeze the nuts off a polar bear!! I will not be watching the 2nd time😐”

Gigi Be







Sad but true said...

Gigi Be 75

I wonder who set up and is running this page. It does not appear to be a TLC production. Any guesses? It could be Paige, she has set up fan pages like this before. I can't find any info on the page itself besides that it was set up on 09/10/2018. Is it Kate HERSELF who did this?

Former Lurker said...

Tizzie said... 59

I recall reading here about a male matchmaker being involved in the show too... so I'm guessing that Kate gave Rachel the boot and the male matchmaker took her place?

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No, I don't think that Adam replaced Rachel based on what I've seen on Instagram and posted about. They've both posted pics of them "working" together, on what looks like the set of the NYC hotel that they've been using for the talking head segments, which I think were all taped in January. It looks like he was brought on later in the "season" to help Rachel with her difficult "client", TFW.

On February 13, Rachel posted this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt1R2zbgI0u/

racheldealto
Since it’s been officially announced at the TCAs, I can share what I’ve been working on the past few months! I’ll be working with this guy (@adamlodolce) to help Kate Gosselin find love on her new show #KatePlusDate on @tlc. It’s a wild (and sometimes awkward) ride and I can’t wait for it to air in June! #relationshipexpert #onset

&&&&&&&&

Adam LoDolce has two IG accounts. On his personal account, he posted a pic from a gym in Charlotte, NC on December 18, 2018:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BriQ4w0Ac5A/

adamlodolce
πŸ’‘,πŸŽ₯,🎬! #behindthescenes


Then, on January 10th, 11th, and 12th he posted a few pics from what I believe is the hotel where they all filmed the talking head segments in January:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsd3fSQgP3c/

adamlodolce
We’re coming for ya!! #staytuned 🀫

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsfsd6qAza8/

adamlodolce
Not not drinking on the job..

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsilIDxg8nX/

adamlodolce
That’s a wrap! Been great working with this goofball. Looking forward to future collaborations with you @racheldealto !


Part 2, next....

Former Lurker said...

(Part 2 of 2)

On his other IG account, he also posted that pic from the gym in Charlotte on December 18th:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BriRWrWn181/

officialsexyconfidence
Big news coming soon.... πŸ’‘, πŸŽ₯, 🎬!
#behindthescenes

&&&&&&&

Then, on January 12th, he posted a few behind the scenes pics with Rachel:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsimsN2neBE/

officialsexyconfidence
That’s a wrap! Been great working with this goofball. Looking forward to future collaborations with you @racheldealto !


From the comments:

decisaodirecaoefoco
Is that your new girlfriend?

officialsexyconfidence
@decisiondirectionandfocus No, she is my co-host on a dating show 😊

decisaodirecaoefoco
@officialsexyconfidence that's cool! Can we see that show here from Brazil?

decisaodirecaoefoco
@decisiondirectionandfocus watch*

officialsexyconfidence
@decisiondirectionandfocus it will be on TLC, so if you get that network, then yes!

decisaodirecaoefoco
@officialsexyconfidence oh my gosh! I do have that one!

racheldealto
Such a great time shooting with you!!!


&&&&&&&&&&&


On February 19th, after TLC announced the June premiere date, he posted this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuFVcxJncjn/

officialsexyconfidence
SUPER excited to finally share this with you all! @racheldealto and I have been working with Kate Gosselin to help her find love - tune in to TLC’s “Kate Plus Date” this June to watch what happens #kateplusdate #kateplus8 @tlc


May 14th:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxcxVIVn-W2/

officialsexyconfidence
I’m SO EXCITED to share this with you all! On June 10th @racheldealto and I team up to help @kateplusmy8 find love - don’t forget to tune in to @tlc to see what happens! #kateplusdate


May 23rd:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx0PGWjg3-5/

officialsexyconfidence
Getting excited! Who’s ready to see if Kate takes any of my dating advice? #KatePlusDate


June 10th:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByirQXogIGH/

That last one posted on the day of the premiere episode, has a lot of negative comments about TW and the show. Also, according to what he posted, it looks like Adam had no idea how the show was edited and that he wasn't even in the first episode (or the second one).

Sad but true said...

Well, Katie, start your happy dance: 805K viewers, 0.22 share. But the hour before (that 90 Day Fiance show) had 1.53K viewers and a 0.46 share. So technically, even MORE viewers switched off TLC at 10 p.m. than last week.

Former Lurker said...

OMG, a slight increase in the total viewers last night:


Total Viewers: 805,000 (last week: 773,000)
Demo (18 - 49): .22 (same as last week)
Rank (in the demo): 27th (same as last week)

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-17-2019.html

Former Lurker said...

By comparison, her lead in show 90 Day Fiance came in number 6 in the demo with .47 and total viewers of 1.539 million. TFW lost 734,000 of their viewers.

FYI said...

Sad but true said... 76
Gigi Be 75

I wonder who set up and is running this page. It does not appear to be a TLC production. Any guesses? It could be Paige, she has set up fan pages like this before. I can't find any info on the page itself besides that it was set up on 09/10/2018. Is it Kate HERSELF who did this?
============

I highly doubt Kate did it herself. She's hardly been promoting it on IG since the first episode. Although it's possible that Mady could be running it.

Former Lurker said...

Also, the ratings for 90 Day Fiance increased from last week:


90 Day Fiance - June 10:

Total Viewers: 1.386 million
Demo (18 - 49): .40
Rank (in the demo): 9th

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-10-2019.html


90 Day Fiance - June 17:

Total Viewers: 1.539 million
Demo (18 - 49): .47
Rank (in the demo): 6th

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-17-2019.html

Former Lurker said...

Kate Plus Fake Date - June 10:

Total Viewers: 773,000
Demo (18 - 49): .22
Rank (in the demo): 27th

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-10-2019.html


Kate Plus Fake Date - June 17:

Total Viewers: 805,000
Demo (18 - 49): .22
Rank (in the demo): 27th

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-17-2019.html

Layla said...

90_day Fiance The Other Way at 9pm 1.539M Viewers
Kate Plus Date 10pm 805,000 viewers

Once again, they lost almost half of their audience when Kate came on. That's a pretty strong message that people don't want to watch her show. And even with a very strong lead-in, she can't pull off decent ratings. Time to pull the plug, TLC!

ncgirl said...

"I'm betting they didn't see each other much, because he worked a lot and was out of town."

Kate did say a man who traveled a lot for work was OK for her. Being around TFW 24/7 would make the relationship last less than a week.

Anonymous said...

Ratings are in
805

Gigi Be

Wowser said...

Any numbers in yet??

Ratings please said...

Ratings???? Does anyone know last night's ratings????

If it is tanking, will they even show the rest of the 'episodes'?


Will advertisers stick around, or can they drop out whenever they want?

Who knows the answers to these pressing questions?!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


90_day Fiance The Other Way at 9pm 1.539M Viewers
Kate Plus Date 10pm 805,000 viewers

Once again, they lost almost half of their audience when Kate came on.

&&&

Unfortunately an uptick in the lead in show probably benefited her because if more people watch that show, more won't bother to tune out to the next show, but frankly the difference between last week and this weeks' ratings are marginal. Both numbers are abysmal and some of the lowest ratings she has ever drawn.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


officialsexyconfidence
SUPER excited to finally share this with you all! @racheldealto and I have been working with Kate Gosselin to help her find love - tune in to TLC’s “Kate Plus Date” this June to watch what happens #kateplusdate #kateplus8 @tlc

&&&

Strange, maybe he's brought in later when it's clear Rachel is so incompetent as to be near useless to this endeavor.

It would be super weird if he ends up edited out, and must be a juicy story.

just wondering said...

#INeedRent#KatePlusMeEqualsCash

LOLOL... He doesn't know Kate at all!!!

ps.. I dated two second generation Italian men & swore I'd never do that again. They both absolutely insisted on ordering my dinner for me. When I protested and said I was capable of ordering my own dinner, one became angry, and the other just pretended I hadn't spoken & proceeded to order what he thought I would like. There was more like that, like deciding on the movie, etc., but that was more than enough for me. I understand that is the culture, but they made no attempt to understand mine. Plus, I'm allergic to all shellfish, so one of those dinners was a complete waste.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


ps.. I dated two second generation Italian men & swore I'd never do that again. They both absolutely insisted on ordering my dinner for me

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All the Italian men in my family are very passive and wouldn't dare order dinner for any of the women or offer opinions about anything at all lest they be bopped over the head with a broomstick.

FYI said...


Strange, maybe he's brought in later when it's clear Rachel is so incompetent as to be near useless to this endeavor.
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I watched next week's episode at TLC.com. No spoilers, but it's interesting how it ends.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

By the second episode I could tell things were starting to get tense between kate and Rachel. I think between Rachel being annoying in general, and Kate likely seeing her as competition (reasonably pretty, reasonably fit, a good dresser, carries herself well, reasonably okay on camera), that relationship was doomed from the start. I don't get the sense Kate respects her opinion at all or cares to hear it, which is the whole point of Rachel. And Kate is engaged in some kind of bizarre guessing game with the woman, not wanting to actually tell her what's going on but rather expecting Rachel to just know. Of course that's going to set Rachel up for failure.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin--FYI, Episode 3 is now available to watch, in case, you want to get started on the recap.

&&&

Joy.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 91

It would be super weird if he ends up edited out, and must be a juicy story.
_____

The last time he posted on his IG was May 20, and that was the first trailer to come out. Since then, nada. No mention of K8 or Rachel at all. So I'm guessing he either didn't make the cut, or otherwise failed miserably enough that he's trying to put the experience behind him and just pretending it never happened.

I checked out his FB page, he is also marketing himself as a "Youtube Expert" (presto, https://viewership.com/youtube-expert/). Maybe he's been hired for Maddy? He's allll about the marketing.

And on the side, he's also a SexyConfidence Expert (https://sexyconfidence.com/dating-expert/), demonstrating how he can get women to become confident enough to find a man (ewww).

Anyway, it seems like he's sort of a Jack-of-all-trades on the "dating" front, which most likely means he's master of none. And this is what passes for "online business" these days. There's obviously more than a few suckers born every minute, so you go for it, fella!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It's weird that they're releasing these episodes a week ahead of time, two weeks in a row. Seems like they want to get it over and done with.

&&&

I have a funny feeling this is just a show that got picked out of a hat as a "tester" to test various stats and so forth on TLCgo. And to test a theory about early release to online platforms, what kind of reception it gets, will people care to make the effort to see it before it airs on regular TV, does it affect ratings, etc. We're just part of an experiment.

I'm guessing TLC is testing the waters with exclusive online shows, seeing if perhaps there is an audience for a show like Kate's online only. It appears they are doing some exclusive programming already that I saw, but I didn't care to take a look at what it even was.

Anonymous said...

The increase in viewers this week is merely a minimal benefit. The show ranked a poor 27; same as last week.

bm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


And on the side, he's also a SexyConfidence Expert (https://sexyconfidence.com/dating-expert/), demonstrating how he can get women to become confident enough to find a man (ewww).

Anyway, it seems like he's sort of a Jack-of-all-trades on the "dating" front, which most likely means he's master of none. And this is what passes for "online business" these days.


&&&

Social media influencers, gurus and self proclaimed "experts" like Rachel and this guy really are the modern day circus ringmaster or snake oil salesman. Step right up folks and come see the half boy half wolf behind the curtain! And take a swig of our elixir, it'll cure what ails ya!

People were suckers then and they're suckers now.

Former Lurker said...

Admin (#95), I think TFW completely resents giving up some of her screen time to Rachel. From what I've scene in the promo clips and read in your recaps, Rachel is getting quite a bit of time. That surely isn't sitting well with TFW, who thinks this is her show and she's the "star".

As far as being a good dresser, Rachel has a stylist. While shooting this show, and other shows and appearances, she often posts pics of her outfit and tags her stylist.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 98

Interesting. I have never actually streamed an episode of anything on my computer (I do it on my TV), but do these TLC "Extra Premiere" episodes of Kate's have adverts? If not, then how do they support themselves? They're not doing it with their biggest shows, at least not yet. Episodes of Outdaughtered, for example, are not appearing online before official air date. Just wondering how money is made this way.

Former Lurker said...

Quick question for Admin or anyone who knows. What was the date of that court hearing for Collin last year? The one that TFW unsuccessfully tried to postpone and then ultimately didn't show up for and lost custody of Collin?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


So they used names of Queen songs for all of the episode titles. I wonder who came up with that idea?


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And that could get really tricky with the rights. Doing it once is probably fair use but I'd be a bit nervous about doing it over and over.

Former Lurker said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 95

And Kate is engaged in some kind of bizarre guessing game with the woman, not wanting to actually tell her what's going on but rather expecting Rachel to just know. Of course that's going to set Rachel up for failure.

&&&&&&&&&&

That's all an act, though. Rachel is not a matchmaker. She didn't search for potential dates for TFW. A casting company put out a casting call and hired actors who were willing to travel to their selected shooting locations (NYC, Charlotte, and LA). Rachel is also nothing more than a hired actor who showed up at the designated locations, at the designated dates and times, to film a television show.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The most important quality that Kate is looking for in a man, is that he be filthy rich. So far, none of the dates seem to have money?

&&&

You can so see it in this woman's eyes, so is she transparent. After talking to them for a bit and sizing them up, she surmises they don't got money and loses interest like an anvil dropping.

I mean why didn't they just announce their annual incomes before she ever agrees to the date and skip all this farce?

Giff said...

The court date she missed for her son was Dec. 4th ? Was any filming going on then?

FYI said...

Former Lurker said... 100
Quick question for Admin or anyone who knows. What was the date of that court hearing for Collin last year? The one that TFW unsuccessfully tried to postpone and then ultimately didn't show up for and lost custody of Collin?
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According to US Weekly, the date was Dec. 4, 2018

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


That's all an act, though. Rachel is not a matchmaker. She didn't search for potential dates for TFW. A casting company put out a casting call and hired actors who were willing to travel to their selected shooting locations (NYC, Charlotte, and LA). Rachel is also nothing more than a hired actor who showed up at the designated locations, at the designated dates and times, to film a television show.


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And Kate is play acting like she is a real matchmaker and play acting that she sucks at her job and she resents it.

This whole show is so bizarre and nonsensical as to be a satire of itself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

But will her matchmaker be the one who doesn't get to the next round?

&&&

Sounds like the recycled plot of DWTS where Kate and Tony had a meltdown and wanted to quit each other.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true (#97), I posted a bunch of IG links in comments #77 and 78 above. Adam has two IG accounts. His last post about the show was on the day of the premiere, June 10th. Going by his comments, I think he had no idea how the show was edited and that he was completely left out of the first two episodes.

Sad but true said...

Former Lurker said... 100

Dec. 4. I have a sense that the bulk of the filming for this date show was done b/t November and January (though we know the escape room stuff was done a couple of months earlier). It's entirely possible she skipped the hearing due to "work" (LOL), even though Jon had filed at the end of October and, presumably, there was adequate notice.

OTOH, it's hard to believe things could not have been shifted around production-wise if she really gave a sh*t about showing up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I wonder how many nights Rachel sat up into the early hours of the morning concocting this scheme, cuz it's a doozie lol.


&&&


It's a doozie indeed. Man alive talk about bilking!

Sad but true said...

Former Lurker said... 108

Thanks! I just took a gander at that officialsexyconfidence IG.

Did you see what he posted 5 days ago on that account? I think he DID get dumped by the show.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByqJyK1JXQu/

Former Lurker said...

Giff (#104) and FYI (#105), thanks. December 4th. According to Rachel's IG, she was in Hartford, CT that day for a TEDx event.

All I know from Adam's IG is that he was filming in Charlotte on December 18th. I don't see anything about filming earlier in December.

So, as far as I can tell from their IG's, filming wasn't taking place on the date of the court hearing, December 4th.

Former Lurker said...

This episode is even more of a doozy than you would think. I pieced together some info from the various IG accounts showing just how fake this whole episode was. The various segments were filmed months apart, yet from the recap it seems they tried to make it appear that they were filmed during the same week.

I could post it all, but it would be another very long comment (or two, or three).

Former Lurker said...

I don't think Rachel did anything more than answer a casting call herself. She got cut loose after two seasons of Married at First Sight. She was looking for another television show and she found it. Combing through her IG, I've seen several references to going on an "audition".

ncgirl said...

"Kate likely seeing her as competition (reasonably pretty, reasonably fit, a good dresser, carries herself well, reasonably okay on camera), that relationship was doomed from the start."

Yes, Kate doesn't like other women around that threaten her, Aunt Jodie, Sarah Palin. Kate is the star, in her mind.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Based on his Instagram that dude definitely thought he was in the first episode. How embarrassing.

FYI said...

BTW, Admin, I've been meaning to ask you, do you still have a crush Anderson Cooper?

The only reason I'm asking is because his Mom, Gloria Vanderbilt, passed away yesterday, and he recorded a beautiful eulogy to her. It brought tears to my eyes.

If you haven't seen it, you can watch it here:

https://twitter.com/andersoncooper/status/1141020971350077452

Anonymous said...

So, Grandma Mary Duggar's funeral was filmed by TLC. The Duggar's and TLC monetize every life event. There is no privacy in that family.

Andrea

FlimsyFlamsy said...

FYI (#111), the close of that lovely tribute made me think of TFW and C. Anderson said something like, I knew my mother loved me from the day I was born, and I'll know it until the day I die...what better gift could a mother give her son? I mean, isn't that the absolute least a parent can offer, and TFW couldn't even manage that. She is a horrible mother.

Sad but true said...

So does Rachel get DITCHED in the third episode? For Adam?

From her IG---an item where she, Gladys-like, posts a quote---"You give life to what you give ENERGY to." And from the comments:

lisastacklee
Girl, she ditched you for another matchmaker? I can’t... good luck to them both! πŸ™„

racheldealto
@lisastacklee πŸ˜‚πŸ€·πŸΌ‍♀️

lisastacklee
@lisastacklee and love this post btw!

lisastacklee
@racheldealto She should have left the medical sales rep date and had cocktails with you. Problem solved.

Not sure if this is what happens in episode #3 (I can't watch this), but who CAN'T see Kate firing someone because they "don't know how to help" her?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is the first person Kate’s cut cut cut that I actually support her dumping. Rachel’s an idiot.

Granted Kate wasn’t clear with her talking in her usual Kate speak and expecting results which made Rachel’s job harder, but I think even if Kate were crystal clear Rachel would still suck.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes I still have a crush on my Anderson and if he needs anyone to help him through this difficult time I’m here!

The documentary on his mom from a few years back was excellent.

FYI said...

The documentary on his mom from a few years back was excellent.
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Yes it was, and so is the book "The Rainbow Comes and Goes" which he co-authored with his Mom.

Layla said...

Giff said... 104
The court date she missed for her son was Dec. 4th ? Was any filming going on then?
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Even if Kate was filing and couldn't/wouldn't go to court herself, she could have sent her lawyer to represent her. She didn't because she didn't want Collin. It sounds like she hasn't bothered to even visit him since he's been home. Just like everyone else who came between Kate and filming, he has been banished.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The various segments were filmed months apart, yet from the recap it seems they tried to make it appear that they were filmed during the same week.

I could post it all, but it would be another very long comment (or two, or three).

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I mean like I said, if they really did film these segments all in the order they are implying the show would have such a nonsensical and inflated budget that no sane network would ever sign off on it. Of course they filmed things out of order and of course they filmed in the cheapest and most logical way.

And that means if somebody is getting "fired" or whatever because they sucked at the first four dates, it was all completely planned and scripted. Because how does the plot work logically otherwise?

BlueJay said...

Why is she even half BOTHERING with these feeble attempts then? Good lord there is almost no point to these half (____) then for "dating." This is almost like some alternate reality reality show.

I thought this was originally the learning channel at one time. What exactly is one suppose to learn from this? How not to pick up a date? How not embarrass ones self in public?

Is it possible they upped this new episode to just drop this show or finish the season because they are not going to go forward because the ratings are that bad? I am not one to know much about ratings and all that but just reading this gives me pause to wonder if it's already down the toilet.

If she wants to find true love, first things first honey, try changing your sour puss attitude and get off your high horse and figure out yourself and just take a good long walk perhaps alone. Because putting yourself through this public torture to find love isn't the way to go about it. My how much the world has changed from finding true love can't possible be this because true love happens naturally and you work at it.

I also have to question. her ex husbands seemed capable of finding happiness and love again, I don't know---off camera. So this truly can't possible hold water for her when you examine it for other people. So it clearly isn't just your television reality self that can't find love as the reason, it's just you and your own "happy go lucky personality" that is the wining prize that must be the problem.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#128), say it ain't so! You mean America's Favorite TV Mom is a faker? You mean she's peddling something other than the Realest Reality? Alas, I must once again call you out as a Jellus Hater, who desperately wishes Cornwell Casting was finding diminutive dates for YOU to dismiss on camera.

I'll never forget when Jon was griping about having to keep his beard for continuity. Filming things out of sequence and having a TV network actually control your facial hair doesn't sound remotely real to me.

Anonymous said...

Former lurker-OMG, a slight increase in the total viewers last night:

The slight increase was probably do to the press tour after the first episode took place. I could see people not knowing about the show and tuning in out of curiosity. Kate was much too lazy to promote it on Instagram when it first came out. She waited for TLC to fly her out to NYC and LA so she could be wined and dined in the best hotels. She could care less about the fans..Although this press tour only a minimal boost in ratings, it’s nothing to brag about

Gigi Be

FlimsyFlamsy said...

JoyinVirginia (#68), you still haven't told us which Subway sandwich you chose! Clearly the blood pressure meds were presented as a diversion, but your fans will not relent until we know! Please set the record straight!

AuntieAnn said...

I am not one to know much about ratings and all that but just reading this gives me pause to wonder if it's already down the toilet.

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I think the novelty of rhyming 'Kate Plus Whatever' shows has worn off. Its gotten very old and people have lost interest in the shrew's mediocre life. Really, who cares if she finds love? No one.

The TLC toilet is backed up from all garbage they've thrown in it. That's why the turd won't flush.

Anonymous said...

After reading Admin's recap for the second time, it appears Rachel was getting as much screen time as the "star". Madam will not be happy about that. I think the slight increase in viewers has to be down to the curiosity factor as a result of the post premiere press tour. The numbers after the third episode of 'How to Snag a Rich Husband' (staring Rachel?) will be more telling.

bm

Layla said...

90-Day Fiance gained about 150,000 viewers over last week's episode. K+Date got 32,000 more. So 80% of the viewers gained by 90-Day Fiance turned off TLC once Kate came on. 80%! TLC has been heavily promoting 90-Day Fiance, so the increase was expected--but if they though that would equate to a substantial increase in viewers for K+Date, they were sorely mistaken. The extra 32,000 viewers were probably the people who fell asleep in front of the TV.

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Sad but true said...

So this answers some questions. From Rachel's IG post of yesterday; she's replying to Paige, who is giving away ALL of what's coming up in episodes yet unaired, LOL:

pc08
I thought you did a great job with Kate idk why she fired you kinda rude I guess some of the guys were duds but process of elimination after all in the end you want one not ten lol

racheldealto
@pc08 thanks! It’s all good - I wish @officialsexyconfidence the best! And I may make a return appearance πŸ˜‰

NJGal51 said...

From TFW’s twitter feed. I wonder if she really expects TFW to contact her.

@oceanstategirl3: @Kateplusmy8 Desperately trying to find a way to message you without it being so public but I can't! I'm positive that Kate has high-functioning Asperger's, like I do. I have a lot of specific insight & could help with only a 5-minute convo. Knowing more could be a game-changer!

Sad but true said...

Just for reference, last night's Outdaughtered at 9 p.m. pulled 1,430K viewers (ranked 8th), and Sweet Home Sextuplets at 10 p.m. got 1,332 viewers (ranked 12th).

If there's gonna be another season of this nonsense, one would think they'd have to be shooting it now, before the twins leave for college. Unless K8 thinks they'll be giving up their weekends to sit in empty rooms with cameras.

Nicky said...

Caught a rerun - great recap. Really captures the shittiness of this show.
- she’s very immature (shocker)
- she has no social skills or personality whatsoever. How the hell did this crap Even get made?
- she’s very aggressive with the female matchmaker and definitely does not like her
- the girls are entitled and spoiled brats. They don’t get a pass anymore since they’re adults. The transformation into Kate clones is almost complete. They will be as miserable as their mom. Their future college roommates should be scared.

foxy said...

Kate must be crazy if she thinks Cara will be home weekends. There is so much work in college they won't have much time for themselves. And if they have friends that will be another thing. She won't see them until parents weekend or Thanksgiving. I wonder which she will choose if both girls have parents weekend on the same dates...hmmmmm. If she attends.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true (#139), thanks for those numbers. As far as I've seen, it looks like most of TLC's shows are pulling in well over a million viewers. And then there's pathetic TFW and her Fake Dates.

You make an excellent point about filming a second season. It would have to get the green light now and start filming immediately. M and C will be leaving for college in about nine weeks.

Then again, I think the filming of the "dates" was all done at the locations, (NYC, Charlotte, and supposedly LA), without Mady and Cara being there. From what I can tell on IG, they filmed for a week near the end of July in NYC, and they filmed for about three separate weeks in Charlotte last fall, ending in December. I think Mady and Cara only filmed in January at the hotel where all of them filmed the talking head segments.

Maybe TFW thinks she can get a second season, and like last year, film the "dates" in the fall, and she'll only need Mady and Cara to film their segments in January. She's certainly selfish and narcissistic enough to think her 19 year old daughters will want to be home on their Christmas/January break and waste their time filming this crap in a hotel in NYC.

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true (#137), good find there. I do think Rachel will be in more episodes and will be filming with Adam based on the pics they've both posted on IG.

Former Lurker said...

Quick question for anyone who watched this episode. What was the story about Rosario and TFW going to the opera house? I know he sang for her on stage in an empty theater, but did he act like that's a theater he performs at and that he was showing her around? Did they mention or show the location at all?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Quick question for anyone who watched this episode. What was the story about Rosario and TFW going to the opera house? I know he sang for her on stage in an empty theater, but did he act like that's a theater he performs at and that he was showing her around? Did they mention or show the location at all?


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They didn’t mention a damn thing about what the hell was going on which was hilarious. It looked more like a community local theater to me than a real opera house not that there’s anything wrong with that. Maybe that’s why Rosorio didn’t care that Kate was touching the instruments with her grubby hands. Not his problem.

Sad but true said...

Quick question for anyone who watched this episode. What was the story about Rosario and TFW going to the opera house? I know he sang for her on stage in an empty theater, but did he act like that's a theater he performs at and that he was showing her around? Did they mention or show the location at all?
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I didn't watch, but someone commented somewhere that this is the Belker Theater in NC.

Sad but true said...

Oops, I just searched it: Belk Theater in Charlotte, NC.

AuntieAnn said...

Maybe that’s why Rosorio didn’t care that Kate was touching the instruments with her grubby hands. Not his problem.

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She can't help it. She's attracted to shiny things.

Nothing pisses a musician off more than having their instruments touched. (Shut up. I'm talking about musical instruments)

Former Lurker said...

Sad but true said... 147

Oops, I just searched it: Belk Theater in Charlotte, NC.

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Yes, that's exactly what theater it is. I figured that out through looking on IG. I can post the links later.

I was just wondering if they mentioned it on the show. It makes absolutely no sense that this opera singer/wannabe actor who lives in San Diego flew to Charlotte, NC to "date" TFW, a divorced mother of 8...7...6... from PA. I got the impression that the show tried to make it look like he was showing TFW around his workplace, but I don't think he has any connection at all to that theater. It was simply selected as a random location to shoot this fake show.

PatK said...

Former Lurker said... 142

She's certainly selfish and narcissistic enough to think her 19 year old daughters will want to be home on their Christmas/January break and waste their time filming this crap in a hotel in NYC.

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I believe the two Mini Kates would definitely be willing to film their little segments on their break. It's for their own money now. (And of course Head-Tilt Mady loves whatever exposure she can get.)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I got the impression that the show tried to make it look like he was showing TFW around his workplace, but I don't think he has any connection at all to that theater.

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That's initially the impression I was getting, and def what they were trying to sell. I soon realized you know this guy has no connection to this building at all! LOL. He never said here's where *I* warm up, change my costume, here's where I perform on stage. It was just, here's "a" stage, "a" dressing room. LOL, I CRY!

It's sort of like taking your date around an office building. Here's the break room, the coffee machines, the fridge to put your lunch. Over here is the copy machines, touch them if you want. And here is the key card access.

Do you work here?

Actually no, but I do work in an office in another state.

AuntieAnn said...

"Head-Tilt Mady" LOL PatK!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


pc08
I thought you did a great job with Kate idk why she fired you kinda rude I guess some of the guys were duds but process of elimination after all in the end you want one not ten lol

racheldealto
@pc08 thanks! It’s all good - I wish @officialsexyconfidence the best! And I may make a return appearance πŸ˜‰


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Lol, so she fires Rachel? How does one fire a "fake dating" couch if it's all fake to begin with? And what were her reasons, and dates? Shouldn't she fire the casting agency instead who couldn't come up with anyone suitable?

I'm so torn on this one because Rachel really was a grade A idiot, but the concept of firing someone who's practically just reciting lines is pretty hilarious.

Kate herself DOES know this is fake.....right?

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 153

Yes, Rachel apparently gets the big kiss-off in the next episode (#3). Enter officialsexyconfidence man. What a stupid handle.

Former Lurker said...

I would bet that the firing of the Fake "dating coach" was scripted by the producers and not something TFW just decided to do. This show is the fakest of Fake "reality" shows.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#153), we keep forgetting this is a TV show. There's probably a bulletin board in a conference room at Figure 8 with index cards which map out the season. And if the Week 3 index card has TFW fire the dating coach to ramp up the drama, then that's what will happen.

I think Schmoopy has verrrry little say in what goes on behind the scenes anymore. Her desperation is palpable, and TLC now has the upper hand. So if they want her to date a mime in Jersey and have dinner at Taco Bell, followed by a game of skeeball on the boardwalk, who is she to say no?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I would bet that the firing of the Fake "dating coach" was scripted by the producers and not something TFW just decided to do. This show is the fakest of Fake "reality" shows.

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So is she "acting" like she can't stand Rachel as part of the script to build up to her sacking?

Sounds like they plagiarized the plot of DWTS. That worked so well when she fired Tony, let's steal that and put it in our show.

FYI said...

SPOILER ALERT:

After watching Episode 3, I can assert that Cara spoke more words in Ep. 3 than she did in both Ep. 1 and 2, but not by much.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#155), I think you've stumbled upon something we've left out of the equation. Maybe it's TFW'S rock-solid predictability which has TLC working with her again and again. Her bad behavior is baked in the cake. She can jibber-jabber until the cows come home about her evolution, but actions speak louder than words. In the decade since her divorce, she's shown zero awareness, zero growth, zero accountability, zero acceptance.

You can imagine a conference room filled with TLC execs laughing at the prospect of trying connect this sour, dour shrew with some fame-hungry shnook. What's not to like? Nice low budget, some guaranteed eyeballs from die-hard fans and haters, and free publicity from whatever tabloid coverage her bad behavior will inevitably generate.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I suppose this comment won't get posted but: I think that you, admin, don't see that making a joke AT SOMEONE ELSE'S EXPENSE is what (I think) the OP was trying to say. Especially if the joke is about their disability. Do you not understand that? It sounds mean and cruel.

And making jokes about Cara, whether she's recently turned 18 and considered a young adult or not, comes across poorly as well. Pretty sure you've commented that you think Cara didn't have much of a choice in whether she did this show or not. She's been abused ALL her life AND is still under the same roof as her abuser. Let's give Cara a chance to show us who she is when she's ABLE to do it freely and without consequence from her 'mother'.

So, yeah, your "jokes" kinda fall flat. No one wants to laugh about someone's disability nor do they find amusement from "snarking" about an abused-all-her-life young adult.

You know, it's ok to be wrong sometimes. Really, it is! It is how we learn and grow. Getting defensive and not taking in constructive criticism only serves to make one look immature, smug, and a dreaded know-it-all. Never admitting you're wrong or even considering that you may be are the traits of a narcissist. I don't think you are a narcissist, though.

Just my 2cents. I imagine you will not take to it and most likely will not post it. I wish you would though. Maybe others can learn.


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I think your self-righteous criticism (maybe others can learn? wow) might actually have some credibility to it if the entire rest of the internet commenting on this show weren't poking fun at the whole thing. So really you look like "let's just pick on Admin for whatever we can scrounge up" and you've done it for years and nothing will ever change.

I also think you're not understanding that the joke is really about Kate, for parading out a kid who is after all this time around production and cameras ultimately isn't comfortable with it at all. For all of Kate insisting how much the family loves the cameras, how production is like family, at the end of the day Cara is not comfortable to the point of near muteness. It's Kate who is full of crap here, not Cara nor the rest of the internet.

That all said apparently she is starting to speak more as the episodes go by. Maybe her mother had a talking to her about how bad her muteness makes Kate look. Maybe Mady convinced her to say more. Maybe Cara herself decided to. I have no idea. But your point is now moot.

I hope you've "learned" something here (you self righteous tool)*.

capecodmama said...

Self Righteous Tool...Sorry, but at Cara’s age, she can decide if she wants to be on this crapfest. If Hannah, at her young age, can defy Kate and end up living with her father, than Cara can stay off the show. I don’t think Kate has any influence on Cara; however, I think a Mady may have. It’ll be interesting to see if Cara blossoms when she goes to college and gets away from both Kate and Mady.

Ingrid said...

Considering the show is 6 episodes TLC may have contracted each of those "matchmakers" for 3 each. She couldn't have handled them both coming at her with help criticism at the same time either. She doesn't like to be told she is wrong.

It sounds like a pretty boring show and they scrounged for any idea to draw people in. Has she had the date yet where the guy got up from table after saying there was no connection or something like that? I thought I saw that on an ad a while ago.

Wowser said...

First of all...Kate sounds like a lesbian or someone who already has someone else by the way she recoils and acts so disgusted about kissing a guy. I think it’s hilarious that she tells Rachel that “feel the feels sounds so teenagerish” when she just responded like a 6th grader who would get cooties kissing a boy. And her inner narcissist is right up front and center. She recoils because some guy has 5 kids but bitch expects all the guys to accept her 8 kids...double standard much??? She really is the most awkward, self centered female —and it’s so obvious she has zero interest in dating. She’s already in love with herself and the cameras. There’s no room for anyone else..except skeeve. And the girl that tweeted her about having high functioning anxiety was priceless. Hahahahaha!! Loved it

AuntieAnn said...


Maybe it's TFW'S rock-solid predictability which has TLC working with her again and again. Her bad behavior is baked in the cake. 

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And to add to that, just from reading the recaps and watching that stupid Daily Pop interview it appears as if Mady has assumed her dead father's role in this shitshow. She seems to like to criticize Kate without any hesitation. There's nothing like a little carping between the two to keep things lively. I think that's Mady's "currency". She's learned a lot from her mother.

just wondering said...

"First of all...Kate sounds like a lesbian or someone who already has someone else by the way she recoils …"

Insult to lesbians everywhere who love women! Kate loves Kate. Period. And possibly Steve, but only if she can't have him. She wouldn't be able to stand him if she actually had him, because in the end, Kate only loves Kate!

Layla said...

I was looking through Robert's book to see who the "Bad Blog" really is (answer: it was a blog written by Robert's wife--I could have sworn it was us! My bad!) and found a mention of Jon and Kate putting a deposit on acreage in North Carolina shortly before buying the Wernersville house. It was for 9 acres on the shores of Jordan Lake (Chapel Hill) in a development called Windfall. I looked it up, and that development (if you can call it that) is gorgeous! Very upscale, huge houses with acreage on a lake, a quick drive to both Figure 8 and Bald Head Island. So Kate gave up a huge custom-built home in the warmer climate she prefers for a farmhouse in PA? I get it--she wanted to move right away, and the house in Wernersville had the apartment over the garage for Jon, but the fact is--she's battling cold winters and snow, living in "Ghettoville" rather than this beautiful area, and she gave up a house built with everything she wanted, and with pretty much everything donated (so basically free) for a house with a big mortgage she's still paying. What an idiot. As always, her greed got the best of her. She had to have a new house right now, and gave up something she would have liked much better and without a big mortgage. It's funny once you think about it.

Does anyone remember where she and the kids vacationed in the summer of 2017? It was on a lake in NC, but I'm not sure where.

Nicky said...

Actually, the girls are not off limits - they are adults. I thought they went to a private school to get a superior education than at a public school? So, wouldn't they be smart enough to be able to weigh the pros and cons of appearing on TV? Or was all that money a waste?
It's clear they are both as emotionally stunted as their mother. And just because Cara is quiet, it doesn't mean she hasn't taken on the snobby traits of her mother. Look at her expression when Mady suggests Kate should date an exterminator - the look of disgust is telling.
And no date with kids because why? They're afraid of someone else possibly being a better/smarter person than them? By this age, most 18 (almost 19!) year olds have well outgrown the sullen teenager stage.
They also all have "dead eyes" when they are speaking. There is no emotional connection there at all.

Giff said...

Wow. People are really sensitive. Cara sits there and does not speak. It is a television show and her behavior is bizarre by any standard. The little jokes made about it here are NOTHING compared to the ones made elsewhere. She is an intelligent girl, but is not acting like one. I agree with the person who said if H could walk away, so can Cara.

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 166

Does anyone remember where she and the kids vacationed in the summer of 2017? It was on a lake in NC, but I'm not sure where.
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Kate herself never said. I think, though, some people recognized it and posted. Not going to look, LOL.

Layla said...

Found it! It was at Lake Norman, near Charlotte, NC. I wouldn't be surprised if, once the younger kids graduate, she doesn't move to NC. Jamie once posted (on IG, I think) something about herself and Kate moving to a warmer climate some day. Sounded like it was something they were planning or hoping to do. I wonder if the college trip to NC with the twins last year was her idea. She might have thought she could get the whole family to move there, close to Figure 8, and with the twins close enough to home to still film. That could make filming cheaper and more convenient for Figure 8, and more cost-effective for TLC. Anything to keep those cameras rolling. But then the twins decided to go to separate colleges in NY. Oops! Not so convenient.

I agree with everyone else that Head-Tilt Mady (love it!) adores the limelight and would jump at the chance to be a "star" herself. But I also think she'd like all the attention for herself, without having to be in her mother's shadow. I think she'll try to become a social media influencer, posting selfies and YouTube videos and drawing as much attention to herself as she can. She is her mother's child after all.

ncgirl said...

"So, yeah, your "jokes" kinda fall flat. No one wants to laugh about someone's disability"

I'm hearing-impaired. I thought the Helen Keller joke was funny.

"Does anyone remember where she and the kids vacationed in the summer of 2017?"

Lake Norman outside of Charlotte. I'm from NC but have never been there. I wish Kate would find another state to fixate on.

JM said...

It was Lake Norman, north of Charlotte so not same location.

Sad but true said...

Another interesting comment from Rachel's IG. First, a Gladytitude:

"Not everyone who is single is lonely;
Not everyone who is taken is in love."

shazbhaz
How scripted was the show? Or was she always like that and it’s realistic

racheldealto
@shazbhaz there were no scripts

So I guess she's saying you're seeing the real K8? But obviously tempered, I think. Maybe a little Xanax in the morning coffee.

In another way, though, it IS scripted, since what gets into the show is nowhere close to everything that happened. And I'm not sure the dismissal wasn't "scripted" to happen; otherwise, why would the other guy have been hired and left back to play second string?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


"So, yeah, your "jokes" kinda fall flat. No one wants to laugh about someone's disability"

I'm hearing-impaired. I thought the Helen Keller joke was funny.

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You're deaf? Well I will speak louder here then! ;). I get a kick out of people who think they speak for this or that group or get to draw the lines about what's appropriate. Many people are perfectly fine with jokes about things that make them different from the "norm." Amy Schumer just had an extremely successful standup that largely involved poking fun at her husband's autism. She was largely praised for tackling a sensitive subject with dignity, humor and class and for sharing so openly about her family thus de-stigmatizing what shouldn't be a stigma. Not any one person gets to decide what jokes are okay, and the fact that any one person may not LIKE such jokes doesn't mean they are inappropriate. And the benefits usually outweigh the couple self-righteous pearl clutchers.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

racheldealto
@shazbhaz there were no scripts

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Rachel is doing Kate-speak here I think. No there weren't physical scripts with line-by-line lines. But there was definitely a storyboard, storylines, outlines, and a general guide/outline to carry them along. There would have to be otherwise what would a show do but just stand there? I just happen to think this is very heavily orchestrated, traditional script or not.

capecodmama said...

Layla...166 If I remember correctly about the land in North Carolina, Jon and Kate or TLC or all of them wanted Home Depot to donate ALL the materials involved for the construction of a several thousand square foot home and Home Depot refused. That’s a boat load of money involved. I remember reading that somewhere. Who knows if it’s true.

Former Lurker said...

By the way, I keep forgetting to mention this. Guess where Rachel the "matchmaker" found her current boyfriend of about a year and a half? On Bumble. And she highly recommends it.

Lorrie said...

I know there’s some Ree Drummond fans here — just read her younger daughter Paige was arrested in April for public intoxication. I bet her mother is mortified this got out. I know I would be.

Sad but true said...

From the K8 FB page:

Dating is full of highs and lows, and Kate Gosselin is no exception. Don’t miss a new #KatePlusDate Monday at 10/9c!

TLC has a new clip up. Seems like they're trying a little harder; they waited 6 days between the first and second episodes to post new clips on her FB, this week they've posted something each day.

What this does mean is that many of the people who are commenting on her IG during the on-air "premiere" have already watched it, which ends up confusing those who have not. It is all so very weird. You gotta wonder if it's intentional sabotage---TLC are certainly not treating their "hit" shows this way.

Sad but true said...

Here's Rachel's comment that goes along with the Gladytude I posted earlier (which doesn't seem to have been posted yet):

racheldealto
We like labels. Somehow putting people in categories feels better. But they’re often inaccurate. In my industry, marriage is often seen as the end all - but guess what? There’s a lot of married couples far lonelier than their single counterparts. The point? Focus on you. Create your happiness. Choose wisely - for YOU. And ignore the opinions of others.

"Ignore the opinions of others"??? Are you for real? So she's saying to ignore the other two "stars" of the show, and herself as well? And when, exactly, did matchmaking (or whatever the hell she claims to be doing) become an "industry"? LOL

As for "scripted" or not, we know that production follows a very detailed schedule, setting up shots and tearing them down, always keeping it moving. I'm pretty sure that the "point" of each set-up is discussed in advance. Just because there may or may not be a page of dialogue, doesn't mean there's not a script.

Minka's Tail said...

Apparently someone asked her if she allowed her six children to see Jon and she said, "It's complicated." I'll take that as a no. It's ironic that her favorite is the only one who ever stood up to her. It's good to be back.
Minka's Tail

Giff said...

I think this is an attempt to rehabilitate Kate to softer, more vulnerable person. Come on, anyone who watched the show or has seen her in interviews knows this isn't who she really is. She wants to be able to carry a show without the tups. Not gonna happen.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Minka's Tail (#179), welcome back!
Nice to see you. I wish some more of our past posters would check in!

Rachel's denial of the show being scripted is kinda disingenuous, considering a freakin' CASTING AGENCY helped coordinate the dates. No, I don't think there was an actual script that said, "Nice to meet you, Opera Boy. Where are you from?" But you can bet every aspect of those dates was pre-planned and carefully orchestrated with the approval of TLC.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


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And therein lies the difference between you and Amy Schumer.

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You obviously didn’t even watch the special. Her humor is a dozen times harsher than this recap ever was on Cara, a consenting adult. In regards to her husband she compares the situation to Snoop dog and weed, makes fun of a loving portrait he did of her claiming it looks like Trump which I understand is quite the insult among your lot, and then compares him to a lighthouse who can only sit there opening and closing his mouth. Ouch. She was lauded as revolutionary for this, and she is.

Take your pearl clutching somewhere else.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Lol so you are comparing yourself to Amy Schumer? Yep, your unfunny snark is "revolutionary."

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Your contention is the snark here is harsh on Mady. I gave you one example of an extremely successful comedian who has made extremely harsh comments about a developmental disability and was embraced for it. If you don’t want to believe this happened that’s your choice but it doesn’t change the fact that snark is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged by most of society regardless if you don’t like it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


By benefits, do you mean the benefit to your ego when a handful of people tell you how funny you are?

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The benefit of an enriching life full of smiles and laughter and not taking life too seriously nor walking on eggshells worried that “anonymous” thinks everything’s offensive or that they speak for groups they are not nor ever will be a part of.

JR said...

Cara shouldn’t be put in that position... period———-she’s forced to so her mother can make money and get that mug on tv... this girl does not want to be there... god ..I hope when she escapes it’s for good .... that bitch is still using those kids for her attempts at fame... will it ever end

NJGal51 said...

At 18 the twins are adults. Hopefully they were smart enough to get their own contract and paycheck for their part in this, the TFW’s, latest debacle. If so, they probably earned more than we did in a typical summer job. If they’re smart they saved the money for those fun college expenses that pop up (going to shows, going out with friends, exploring the city, etc.). On the other hand, if one wants to become a YouTube personality she may have purchased things like a Cartier love necklace or things like that to keep up with the Olivia Jades of the YouTuber world. This is all just speculation on my part. I wonder if they, like TFW, expect this gravy train to continue forever. Once TFW is no longer on TV the free haircuts and other perks will dry up. Did “Uncle Ronnie” even mention TFW when she was between shows? I didn’t think so. It’s all about what can you do for me now. Hair and make-up credit on a TV show...great! Some lady and her kids from PA...here are my prices. They will be in for a rude awakening when the gravy train pulls in to the station or when they find out that no one in college cares that the are one of the “Gosselin Twins”.

Winsomeone said...

At this point, I think the twins get pretty much anything that they want, no matter what it costs. They get the most expensive clothes, while the tups are grabbed any old thing off the sale rack at Targets. I just hope there will be some money left for them, and that Kate and the twins won't have spent every last penny on themselves.The twins have never understood that the tups were the money makers in the family, not themselves.

foxy said...

I hope Mady can get over herself before she attends college. My nephew attended Harvard with Caroline Kennedy, and my neighbor attended college with John Kennedy at Brown. They were not treated any differently than the other students. Brown has many off spring of famous people from all over the world including royalty in attendance. No special treatment. As do a lot of other schools. She is in for a rude awakening when she gets on campus. Even the jocks in high school think they will be the big guy on campus like they were in high school. Doesn't happen.

Anonymous said...

Did “Uncle Ronnie” even mention TFW when she was between shows?

He did. He did her hair for one of her “press tour” days and took a selfie with her. But he does that for a living. He doubt their is a real friendship there. He probably just views her as one of his many clients while she thinks she’s so special.
When Olivia Jade went off to college, her “dorm” looked more like a suite with a decked out modern kitchen. Very chic! But she’s rich. I think this is the life that Mady wants.

Gigi Be

Giff said...

NJGal51 I don't think anyone would know who the Gosselin TWINS are. Maybe if they said the sisters of the Gosselin Sextuplets they might. It's funny how Mady resented them so much, but they are the only reason she has the opportunities she has had. Without the tups, it is very doubtful she would have gone to private school, travelled, lived in a big house or be financially able to go to an expensive college. Were it not for them, she might be working at the mall, saving every penny she made to go to junior college somewhere. I hope one day she is able to understand that she is where she is at because of her brothers and sisters. Who knows, she may go on to do something in the media, although her personality and being Kate’s daughter might hold her back, but if she does, it's because she started with both feet through the front door. Curtesy of the 6 "little kids" she always resented.

NJGal51 said...

The twins have never understood that the tups were the money makers in the family, not themselves.
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winsome - I think that TFW tends to forget that her dynamic with Jon and the tups were the real moneymakers. Because of her narcissism she really thinks that this fake date show will be a hit because it’s all about her.

Anonymous said...

I love Collin’s sense of humor.
He posted 5 pics of the family dog. And a picture of every emotion the dog has that Collin can relate too.

“My everyday if 9th grade, photo 1: When my alarm goes off, photo 2: me convincing my dad I’m sick, photo 3: me in study hall ( dog shown sleeping) photo 4: me in history ( I suck at history) photo 5: me after school.. who knows what 10th grade will look like!!!

“ Collin- I’m so not ready for high school”
“ Just to clarify my caption I’m going into 9th grade but that was just showing what I think it will be like

####Did you skip a grade? “

Collin “ no I got held back”

### “Do your best C it will be worth it you got this.”

Collin -“thanks I got the honor roll so I’m good. “
“ it was an exaggerated post I guess. I love school.”

### Convincing your dad you are sick! That’s real funny. Will you be starting 10th” Dogs are awesome.

Collin - 9th
“ Lol I would never convince him of that”

Gigi Be

AuntieAnn said...

I think Mady went into survival mode a few years ago after she realized the sextuplets were the main attraction. The twins were just accessories that added to the scripted chaos of raising eight kids. She'd probably been 'happied-up' so many times that she finally caved and decided to jump in the game with Mommie in order to gain the attention she (and Cara) weren't getting back then.

NJGal51 said...

Whoops!

https://popculture.com/reality-tv/amp/2019/06/21/kate-gosselin-gets-roasted-fans-asking-thoughts-kate-plus-date/

Irish 33 said...

I finally let myself watch one episode and oh my God I know reality TV is dying but this has to be the worst show ever made... God it's cringe-worthy and those two daughters commenting our about as personable as a couple of turtles... Sorry folks I couldn't make it through 20 minutes

Sad but true said...

Gigi Be, thanks for posting this. What an imaginative, creative post from a 15 y/o boy. And this is the kid she had locked away.

More damaging than anything I've seen online recently is this one particular poster on the K8 FB page who is absolutely INSISTING that C was a danger to his family. Does anyone think he'd be allowed to live at Jon's with Hannah if that were true? Let's not forget, there are any number of lawyers and judges involved here.

We know he was expelled from school, and the first time, when he was FIVE, it was said he had aggression towards adults and others. Was that true the second time? NO ONE KNOWS. It's entirely possible that HE was being bullied by others. Certainly even Kate, with her "fluid special needs diagnosis" malarkey, has NOT claimed that he was in any way a danger in her home. And if he was, well, seeing how she treated him, and made him a pariah amongst his siblings, including even his brothers, would you blame him?

Kate has a lot to answer for, but you know she'll spend the rest of her life walking around and moaning, "I just don't get it." Because Kate only really sees Kate. She's about as divorced from "reality" as it gets.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#193), the "secret sauce" of the original show can never be replicated: 2 new parents raising 8 very young children. That equation was a once-in-a-lifetime scenario, and TFW is doomed to decades of disappointment if she's expecting that magic to ever come back.

Sue said...

Thought some of you old timers might like to know that old “hole in her heart and Brad Pitt in her basement” is still around.

@MY_BORDERCOLLIE: I was told that I'm riddled with almost every form of arthritis there is from head to toe. Then they found both shoulder bones are completely disintegrated and the arms and hands are disintegrating too. There is no medicine or surgery that can fix any of it. Pain is unreal!😒

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