Monday, July 17, 2017

Discussion Thread: Kate Goes Skiing... Sort Of... 7/17/2017

Kate Plus 8

Kate Goes Skiing... Sort Of... (Season 6 | Episode 2)

7:00PM | TLCHD1250
Spring break takes Kate and her kids to Vermont for a week on the slopes. Skiing lessons, tubing and a trip to the hospital make for one wild week.

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NJGal51 said...

I forgot to mention that my previous post was a comment from FB.

GollyGee said...

NJGal51, that observation is making me cry.

That poor little boy. Wasn't he the boy on the yard sale episode to sit quietly and arrange a big stack of books into a bookcase and when TFW came in and saw how horrifying it looked to her in her mental illness, turned into a tsunami and the look of defeat on that child's face and body was so sad.

WHO CARES HOW THE BOOKS ARE ARRANGED?

It was like, she was hell bound to break that boys spirit.

She has bigger fish to fry than this.

Like, RUN to the mental clinic, get dx'ed and take you freaking meds!


Formerly Duped said...

I would think any facility would insist on family participation since the goal would be to reunite Collin with his parents and siblings as well as manage his 'fluid' symptoms. An IEP in regular school would be another goal. What must they be thinking? I really doubt helpful sweet Collin did something so violent- even children who have murdered others get parental visits. So back to the foster home theory. We just don't know but Collin did look sad from a very early age.It's this family's business but Collin has support and empathy on this blog. He really would be my favorite tup if asked.They couldn't even manage the chickens without him.He was always doing the most and heaviest chores and the one who championed Mommy. Sure, he had some signs of something wrong and teased his siblings but, come on.I still don't believe it's legal for Jon not to know where he is if Kate does know.I also don't buy no visitation.

Susan1956 said...

Googling around this morning and was initially dismayed to see this article, but it quotes Robert's book. Colin will be gone 2 years in August.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-s-son-collin-returns-to-kate-plus-8-after-special-needs-treatment-122957

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 186
I wonder what the execs at TLC are thinking right now. First Kate bailed on her own tweet party last night after telling her fans she'd be there, and then the poor ratings for last night's episode. K+8 hasn't broken a million viewers for any episode for the last 18 months. They must be breathing a sight of relief to be rid of her, at least for awhile (I do think they will do some catch-up filming in the future).
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I wonder if TLC even cares anymore. Kate is filler at this point. She's a known quantity and reliable for adding a little bit of content to their channel's lineup.
TLC must be fully aware that people are sooooooooo over Kate Gosselin.
Yes, a few years ago, everyone was making hay when people loved to hate her.
Now?
People nothing her.

Kate could pull her knickers down and take a shit in the middle of Wernersville and she'd still not burn the TLC bridge.

The thing is, I think Kate knows it, and enjoys flipping her French-tipped middle finger.

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 185
Susan1956 (180)
From the sound of it, TLC is showing the "real Kate", just like in the RV episodes. All the tantrums and meltdowns and ugliness, ruining what should be fun activities--the gloves are off.
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The dysfunction between TLC (the editing elves) and Kate is fascinating to watch.
Totally agree about these episodes being just like the RV trip.

They just need to show a Pizza Meltdown and lovers' quarrel with Steve.

Tucker's Mom said...

781K viewers. Not good.
Still boggles the mind that many people watch!

Gigi Be said...

I see that Steve and TFW are color coordinated again. They've dressed the same before. This isn't a coincidence . Lillian glass wrote a blog post about this yrs ago.

https://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/tag/steve-neild/

Also I'm almost positive TFW has said in the past that she is afraid of heights. Yet she gets on that helicopter when they're filming that dating episode. And doesn't look bothered by it one bit

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 4
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It's stunning that TLC has decided to portray this family as having no relationship with Collin.
To have birthday parties and vacations broadcast to the world, without that boy, is trull sickening.

If anyone tuned in to watch, and didn't know the family, they would NEVER know that Jon and Kate have 8 children.

How effed up is that?

I'm sorry. If your children just go about their merry way, when their brother is holed up God knows where, kicked out of the home, as it appears, they are sociopaths like their mother.

I do NOT think they are, but that's how they are being portrayed.

It in NOT NORMAL to be unaffected by the loss of a sibling.

Susan1956 said...

In other news, the twitter account of the lady that had pics of Kate, Skeevie, and the kids is now protected. People are still commenting though.

xxxxxxx 12h12 hours ago
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Replying to @sophy1463 @Kateplusmy8
@tlc @katepluysmy8 Good ole whole some values TLC, Kate traveling with married boy friend.

Formerly Duped said...

Wonder if Robert is thinking of doing anything about Collin- he had many ways of discovering information on the family before. He seemed to care deeply for Collin and dedicated the book to him

Where's Jon's book,I ask again!

Gigi Be said...

I used to be a CNA for a nursing home many years ago. I was assigned a patient, that none of the other CNA's wanted to care for.She was a handful. She was very rude, argumentive, and a drama queen. She would have melt downs just like Kate.She was bitter and angry every second.Family or friends would never visit.

This reminds me of the skiing episode, Kate's going tubing and is freaking out .One of the younger girls is trying to help her and calm her down while Katie is screeching and talking down to anyone trying to help.
This moment reminded me of my days as a CNA, dealing with this nasty patient. I can only imagine what a handful Kate will be in her older years ( as she already is). I really felt bad for those girls. They show a lot more maturity than their own mom. Then you see one of the girls hugging her once it's all over. Kate is never once embarrassed by herself. Instead she almost demands this kind of attention from them. Then you see the little girls talking among each other and say " I hope she did alright" (with stress and concern on their faces. )Again, for 12 yrs olds to have to say this isn't normal. It's going to be hard dealing with their mentally ill mom.I could only hope she doesn't guilt them into staying with her. Or she may end of like that patient, abandoned at the nursing home. She better watch it.


NIOP said...

If Steve was with her as her companion, he wouldn't get paid. If he goes with her as a 'bodyguard' he makes a cool $1600 per day + expenses from TLC according to Roberts book.

Golly Gee? That was Aaden not Collin re the book cruelty. Kate loves demeaning and ridiculing the boys on and off camera.

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker's Mom said... 10~~~~~
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To have birthday parties and vacations broadcast to the world, without that boy, is truly sickening.

If your children just go about their merry way, when their brother is holed up God knows where, kicked out of the home, as it appears...
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I agree.I don't expect the kids to be weeping and they are probably heartsick but told not to mention Collin on camera, but it does seem like the two boys are fine with just the two of them. The twins and the tup girls never cared much for Collin with the exception of Hannah supposedly telling Jon abut his cruel treatment by TFW. How it all came to this, I just can't fathom and how TLC can still present this charade as Kate Plus EIGHT is horrible.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#10), I am just as repulsed as you are by all this. There is no good answer here. Either C's siblings are truly hurting over the loss of their brother and that reaction is left on the cutting room floor. Or they've adapted just fine, and take their mother's lead in moving on as if he was never there. Either scenario is awful.

And this point can't be stressed enough. This boy was part of a group. The tups. The littles. The Hershey 6-pack. They shared a womb. They were part of medical history. They were connected, for better or worse, with an intensity not typical of singletons. They traveled as a group and worked together as a group on a TV show for more than a decade. So for TFW to brush off his removal from home and compare it to a child going off to college is sick. Absolutely sick. She is a horrible mother.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susan1956 (#11), how I wish someone would ask TFW about Steve presence, since she just complained in last week's episode about not having an assistant. Surely she can't claim he's her bodyguard anymore. The low ratings and that poorly attended Twitter party tell the real story of her D-list status.

Layla said...

Remember when Kate went on TV and cried over Jon taking money out of their joint account? She shed tears over the loss of money, but we've never seen a single tear over the loss of Collin. Shows where her priorities lie, doesn't it?

Tucker's Mom said...

Also I'm almost positive TFW has said in the past that she is afraid of heights. Yet she gets on that helicopter when they're filming that dating episode. And doesn't look bothered by it one bit
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I would bet money that Kate takes xanax to fly. She was coocoo for Coco Puffs on that hot air balloon ride.
I can see Kate chillaxing with a nice cocktail of xanax and glass of wine in First Class with Steve, while the "help" deals with the kids in steerage.

Unknown said...

yes all i thought the tag meant kansas mo. sorry for the incorrect info. i wonder how many that twitter got hit or did hate or that one sheep whom was always defending hate for the longest time told them to give back the pictures or go private. on the other hand maybe they were like ive got to do something im getting hit to hard on this photo. she did personally tag kate so im assuming tfw probably told her some b.s lie that she will sue or repercussions will come towards tlc. personally i wouldnt even tag that woman plus i would take any threat. hypothetically thinking everyone.

tuckers mom i agree with you i dont think tlc even give on min aboutnkate and her life anymore. kate so blinded like a Amish horse she cant even see how tlc has turn their backs on them manly kate and showing her for whom she is. this narcissistic little entitled girl whom thinks she still a SUPERSTAR......

anyone that still backs her up, i always wonder do you follow the kate handbook. tho shall not have sugar only organic, they shall respect no back talking, you get what yoou get and dont throw a fit and so on. this isnt a mothwr to look for guidance ideas reinsurance or parenting. even m. duggar i dont see as one to even look up to. off subject that womans mary poppins sugar sweet attitude with intelligent of compulsive babies i found odd sicking and damaging. not to mention the buddy system. these people want big families but always shove them off to another after the entail first year.

speaking of kate frights. wasnt she in the limo sucking down the champagne for that date before they got to the helicopter? maybe her makeup artist gave her a little valium that night to so she would be freaked out? kates not that chill without some kind of substance to level her down.

i was looking at her photos on the apprentice show. the still shoots they took of her in the board room look like she is some places else than there. im not a license phd but she looks way off. unless she is pretending to be on the other side saying. im so much better putting people down and in their place than donald.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 12
Wonder if Robert is thinking of doing anything about Collin- he had many ways of discovering information on the family before. He seemed to care deeply for Collin and dedicated the book to him

Where's Jon's book,I ask again!
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I have though about Robert MANY times since Collin's ouster. I bet Robert knows something about what happened to him, what with his connections and perhaps local chatter and water cooler talk.
But, I hesitate to wish him involved again.
Robert did his level best-more than most-to shine light on the f*cked-up circus of monkeys that is the Gosselin carnival show.
I know he's had health problems and probably should not suffer the stress he did when he was working the story and writing the book.
Oh, not to mention the lawsuit!

Whenever anyone tangles with Kate or gets into her orbit, it's not good. I think you take your life and livelihood in your hands when you deal with a disturbed person.

Tucker's Mom said...

Then you see one of the girls hugging her once it's all over. Kate is never once embarrassed by herself. Instead she almost demands this kind of attention from them
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Kate burdens her children AND never fails to let them know what a burden they are to her.
It's a really sick dynamic when you children have to help you keep your shit together as well as be there to put Humpty Dumpty back together each time she falls off the wall.

Actually, having Steve around is a positive-for the kids. He can put her in her place and be a buffer for them.

Tucker's Mom said...

.I could only hope she doesn't guilt them into staying with her. Or she may end of like that patient, abandoned at the nursing home. She better watch it.
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Oh, Kate's going to Grey Gardens at least one of those girls.

Tucker's Mom said...

I just can't fathom and how TLC can still present this charade as Kate Plus EIGHT is horrible.
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TLC has no conscience. Sure, they talk a good game about caring for their talent, but the talent is nothing but income to them.
I'm sure TLC knows where the bodies are buried...

Anonymous said...

FlimsyFlamsy @ 16 - I agree with your description of the sextuplets. They did share a womb and experts tell us there is a special intensity of that life long bond. If she is denying the other five the opportunity to share their feelings about Collin's absence, she is damaging their special relationships.

bm

Susan1956 said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 17
Susan1956 (#11), how I wish someone would ask TFW about Steve presence, since she just complained in last week's episode about not having an assistant. Surely she can't claim he's her bodyguard anymore. The low ratings and that poorly attended Twitter party tell the real story of her D-list status.
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I'd love to ask her about Skevie, but the heifer blocked me long ago on Twitter.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 16
Tucker's Mom (#10), I am just as repulsed as you are by all this. There is no good answer here. Either C's siblings are truly hurting over the loss of their brother and that reaction is left on the cutting room floor. Or they've adapted just fine, and take their mother's lead in moving on as if he was never there. Either scenario is awful.
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It is awful. I don't know how the tups don't cry at least once when their mother throws them birthday parties, knowing Colin is missing out.
Who sung to Collin? Did he get a cake? A party? Presents? Hugs? Love?
The thought of Collin watching his brothers and sisters get blow-out parties, friends, cakes, presents and singing literally brings tears to my eyes.
It is overwhelmingly sad, and I've never met the kid!

Tucker's Mom said...

So for TFW to brush off his removal from home and compare it to a child going off to college is sick. Absolutely sick. She is a horrible mother.
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My bet is that Kate doesn't discuss Collin and doesn't want him brought up at all.
I bet the kids have to hide their feelings and push them down.
It would be understandable, just to function.

I can't imagine living with the fear that your mother is capable of banishing you forever.

Nicky said...

Legitimate questions for her fans:

- How badly behaved does a child have to be before you send him away for 2 years?
- Why is that child never spoken about, or seem to be missed? Why is it ok for a mother to state a vacation without that child is the best memory she will ever have?
- After 16 years of being a mother, why can't she seem to handle meal times, parties, vacation prep, etc without major drama?
- Why is it ok for her children to constantly comfort her and not the other way around?
- If she's so organized, why is her house a disorganized mess?
- Why does she state she would need a babysitter for 13 and 16 yr olds? Has she not raised them well enough to be self sufficient at this age? (and she and her fans have stated loudly that it's been only her, as Jon is not involved).
- Why can't all the kids see their dad? Doesn't he have any rights?
- Why can't she get a job when the kids are in school most of the day?
- Why would her children constantly thank her for the smallest of things 100's of times a day, as she states?
- Why do her children hit each other and demean each other constantly?
- Why is there no extended family in their lives? Did every single one of them want to make money off of them?

I could really go on, and on. I know some of her fans read here. I challenge them to give some thoughtful answers. For real.

Layla said...

I watched last night's episode of Outdaughtered, and was really struck by the disparity of production costs between the shows. Kate's show is non-stop vacations, over-the-top parties, and expensive home improvement. On Outdaughtered, other than a couple trips to the doctor for Hazel, there was a stop at a bakery where Adam and Hazel picked up treats and they bought potties for all the girls. They don't seem to take numerous vacations on TLC's dime, and I haven't heard of any huge home improvements or parties. It's pretty much a given that, after less than two years with TLC, the Busbys aren't making $40K per episode like Kate. Yet their show gets hundreds of thousands more viewers than K+8. Maybe that's a factor in dumping K+8. They can probably film two episodes of Outdaughtered for the cost of one episode of K+8, and get much greater returns for their money. I can see them keeping the Gs around for a little catch-up every now and then, but filming on a regular basis is just bad business. It's a guaranteed loss.

Tucker's Mom said...

Saw this Josh Duggar article on Yahoo:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/d5aa35f8-4a02-3172-9e86-649366659718/ss_he-apparently-thinks-he-has-a.html

"Someone should tell Josh Duggar that he should quit while he's behind — in a lawsuit filed on July 7, the disgraced 19 Kids and Counting star claims that In Touch Weekly violated his privacy and caused him emotional injury when they broke the news he'd been investigated for repeated sexual assault.

http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1135172/josh-duggar-files-lawsuit

Tucker's Mom said...

Yahoo comments on the Josh Duggar article:

Cathy 3 hours ago
And you, who sexually molested your own sisters, and committed adultery with prostitutes, feel you were harmed?
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Craig and Lois Baalman 4 hours ago
Just go away...far, far away. Immediately. And please take the Kardashian clan with you as well as the rest of your family. Oh and Kate Gosselin.

LOL!!!

PA Dutch Mom said...

kate so blinded like a Amish horse she cant even see how tlc has turn their backs on them manly kate and showing her for whom she is. this narcissistic little entitled girl whom thinks she still a SUPERSTAR......

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AH, not such a good analogy! Amish horses aren't blind, nor do they wear blinders. Some of them wear cups at the side of their heads (winkers!) because of their peripheral vision so that they aren't distracted when pulling a buggy, carriage, or plowing a field.

Just a bit of trivia!

Rainbowsandunicorns said...


speaking of kate frights. wasnt she in the limo sucking down the champagne for that date before they got to the helicopter? maybe her makeup artist gave her a little valium that night to so she would be freaked out? kates not that chill without some kind of substance to level her down.

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I really hope not. Mixing Valium and alcohol is not a good idea.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Susan1956 (#11), how I wish someone would ask TFW about Steve presence, since she just complained in last week's episode about not having an assistant. Surely she can't claim he's her bodyguard anymore.

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Didn't she change the name of his position some time ago, from bodyguard to rode (sic) manager?

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Many of the tweets are really calling her out on her bad behavior. It's about time. I don't see Gladys on there defending her, at least not yet.


Paula‏ @phep05 3h3 hours ago
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Replying to @Kateplusmy8 @TLC
Seriously enough with the effin drama, grow some balls & stop whining Even the twins R stuck up! Y is this show still on, waste of air time

GollyGee said...

NOIP said...14

I can see Kate chillaxing with a nice cocktail of xanax and glass of wine in First Class with Steve, while the "help" deals with the kids in steerage.

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I can see Kate chillaxing with a nice cocktail of xanax and glass of wine in the lifeboat, alone with Steve, while the "help" deals with the kids in steerage,

ON THE TITANIC!

GOODBYE, KIDS!!!

HAVE A NICE LIFE!!!

Tucker's Mom said...


I could really go on, and on. I know some of her fans read here. I challenge them to give some thoughtful answers. For real.
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Great list of questions!

I think the wool has been pulled from most of the sheeple eyes, but she's still bamboozling the really stupid and those overseas who really don't know the whole story.

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 30
I watched last night's episode of Outdaughtered, and was really struck by the disparity of production costs between the shows. Kate's show is non-stop vacations, over-the-top parties, and expensive home improvement. On Outdaughtered, other than a couple trips to the doctor for Hazel, there was a stop at a bakery where Adam and Hazel picked up treats and they bought potties for all the girls. They don't seem to take numerous vacations on TLC's dime, and I haven't heard of any huge home improvements or parties
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Oh, give them time. They'll get all that, and then some.
Probably will get to the divorce part of filming, too.

Sad but true said...

Wow, Outdaughtered pulled 1.4mm viewers last night (9 pm EST), 0.37 share, 11th-ranked cable show of the day. There was an Outdaughtered ("Life with"?) episode on at 8 EST that pulled 852K viewers.

Rattled, another multiples show, had 972K viewers in the 10 pm slot, with a 0.27 share.

Kate who?

Sad but true said...

Well, Milo's big foot is entering stage left again, headed straight for her mouth. On last IG photo:

katileyy is there a reason your fans are pretending one kid isn't missing and hasn't been there for well over a year ? This "show" is still called kpkus8????Are they blind or just ignorant ? TLC should be ashamed. Sick that people support this show. Should have been taken off the ages ago. Horrible.

miloandjack2016@katileyy No one is ignoring or pretending to not notice Collin's absence. Kate provided the degree of info she felt appropriate. This is a very sensitive & private matter. So much we don't know...so best not to judge. Whether there is ever any more filming or not...it will always be Kate Plus 8....he is her son...he is loved and will always be a part of this family. Collin was/is well liked and its only natural that the TV audience that has watched these kids grow is concerned and anxious to know he is ok and progressing in his special needs education. We have to respect Kate as his mother to give the public that update if and when she deems it necessary. Everyone longs to hear some good news in this regard. Patience and empathy are needed here. @kateplusmy8

_jadynmack is all y'all can do during your day is hate? Kate is doing what is best for her son. It has nothing to do with any of you guys so butt out. Kate is a great mom and doesn't intentionally leave out her kids, but if he needs help, he needs help. She's an even better mom for letting him get that help

katileyy Oh please @miloandjack your queen is going to pay dearly for her actions someday. This is not normal behavior to go on w this stupid tv show like nothing devastating has happened to one of them. For her to proclaim "the bestest party ever" without one of her sons there two years in a row is reprehensible and unconscionable. How do you think that poor boy is going to feel in the future when he sees what she's done. Oh but DOGS. She will be a lonely , bitter woman someday when her kids and grandkids want nothing to do with w her.

FYI said...

Many of the tweets are really calling her out on her bad behavior. It's about time. I don't see Gladys on there defending her, at least not yet.
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She's too busy over on Kate's IG.

katileyyis there a reason your fans are pretending one kid isn't missing and hasn't been there for well over a year ? This "show" is still called kpkus8????Are they blind or just ignorant ? TLC should be ashamed. Sick that people support this show. Should have been taken off the ages ago. Horrible.

miloandjack2016@katileyy No one is ignoring or pretending to not notice Collin's absence. Kate provided the degree of info she felt appropriate. This is a very sensitive & private matter. So much we don't know...so best not to judge. Whether there is ever any more filming or not...it will always be Kate Plus 8....he is her son...he is loved and will always be a part of this family. Collin was/is well liked and its only natural that the TV audience that has watched these kids grow is concerned and anxious to know he is ok and progressing in his special needs education. We have to respect Kate as his mother to give the public that update if and when she deems it necessary. Everyone longs to hear some good news in this regard. Patience and empathy are needed here. @kateplusmy8

Isn't this the same Milo who bugged Kate for info on Collin during the Halloween episode? Not just once, but twice?(she has since deleted the first tweet).

Fired Up 4 Kate‏ @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 At the end of the show can you just give us a brief update on Collin? Hope he is progressing... I know you all miss him!!

Fired Up 4 Kate‏ @MiloandJack Jul 10
@Kateplusmy8 Obviously we missed Collin as I know you all do there every single day! Can you give us a brief update? How is he doing? :)

Sad but true said...

KIAT, I LOL'd at the bolded part of Milo's "explanation." If People offers her another cover in exchange for a Collin story, she'd do it in a heartbeat. She wouldn't give it a second thought. Unless, of course, she is now prohibited from doing so by a gag order.

And YES, how funny that it's Milo herself who keeps bringing the Collin question up on Twitter! She really seems to see herself as in charge of K8's PR strategy and, as such, is the natural choice to ask these tough questions. Unfortunately for her, K8 tends to ignores her completely. Why does she keep embarrassing herself like this?

Sad but true said...

katileyyIf she were any small bit of a good mother she'd have pulled the plug on filming this ridiculous show and focused on healing her damaged son and family. NOT do a people mag photo shoot and broadcast him to the world. She is awful. AWFUL.

You got that right.

Unknown said...

thanos pa dutch mom, ive been through lancaster area only to get to maryland. sometimes i see a buggy around once in awhile but never paid much attention.

shenis going to gray gardens???? what to get an idea how her and mady will be big eddie and little eddie? lol ... have squaller all over hermits living in a deplorable house with pet racoons. funny thing i can see that as adoc but kate playing little ed dancing with her american flag. remember all 4th of july is her favorite holiday.

i should have my coworker just paste kates face on ed body waving that flag around omg i would laugh my ass off.

Sad but true said...

katileyy No one NO ONE should know about this boy. But his narcissistic mother ignores his needs and does a people mag cover w her 7 other kids. I mean. WTF.

Milo's not replying. :) K8 will probably be deleting katileyy shortly, I noticed she got rid of johnpaulbachmann's and 7mspfw1's comments some time overnight.

Unknown said...

i ment thank you for the correct knowledge on the horse dutch mom.

Tucker's Mom said...

We have to respect Kate as his mother to give the public that update if and when she deems it necessary. Everyone longs to hear some good news in this regard. Patience and empathy are needed here.
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First of all, no respect from me and when she deems necessary?
Sure, if by necessary you mean when People pays her for a photo shoot or when she's promoting her show and can't dodge the question.

Tucker's Mom said...

Isn't this the same Milo who bugged Kate for info on Collin during the Halloween episode? Not just once, but twice?(she has since deleted the first tweet).

Fired Up 4 Kate‏ @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 At the end of the show can you just give us a brief update on Collin? Hope he is progressing... I know you all miss him!!

Fired Up 4 Kate‏ @MiloandJack Jul 10
@Kateplusmy8 Obviously we missed Collin as I know you all do there every single day! Can you give us a brief update? How is he doing? :)
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Milo isn't stupid. She knows this is looking really bad, after Collin has been kicked out of his home for over a year now.
She knows.

Sad but true said...

This comment was left on the TLC FB page, under their K8 post from Monday. Could this be true? It was in a thread where Collin's absence was being discussed.

XXXXX It was ordered by his doctors and school. He will be there until at least 16 but they see him once a week

PA Dutch Mom said...

thanos pa dutch mom, ive been through lancaster area only to get to maryland. sometimes i see a buggy around once in awhile but never paid much attention.

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I see them on a daily basis and I have to pay attention or I'll end up with one on my front bumper!

Layla said...

Funny how all the kids have to come running to comfort Kate when she has one of her meltdowns, but when they are the ones who are in distress (example: seasickness!) she just brushes them off. When they have outbursts she doesn't comfort them, she just rolls her eyes like, "see what I have to put up with?".

Interesting that Milo said, "whether there is ever more filming or not". She read that statement (or read about it here) and she knows what it means. Notice how all the fans just pretended that statement was never made? Denial is their coping mechanism, but Milo broke with the herd. She was the last one I expected to acknowledge it.

Malevolent (45)
Where did you hear that Kate was going to Grey Gardens? It's in East Hampton, and she's in North Carolina. We did talk here about how she and Mady could end up like Big Edie and Little Edie, holed up in that house and dreaming of what could have been. But I never heard of her going there.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Why does she keep embarrassing herself like this?

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Probably because she's an idiot who has no critical thinking ability and hopes that Kate will address the situation so she can't be accused of abandoning her son. She's poking at Kate because it looks like Kate isn't communication with her in so many other ways.

Milo is the laughingstock of all things Kate, but she's just too stupid to know it, or to care.

ncgirl said...

I've seen some of Outdaughtered. As far as I know, they've been to NYC and to some place not that far from home. Potty training and poop talk shouldn't be allowed on any reality show. The older daughter seems very sweet, not like Mady. There is other family around(a grandmother and siblings), but Kate had that family support once upon a time.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I think the wool has been pulled from most of the sheeple eyes, but she's still bamboozling the really stupid and those overseas who really don't know the whole story.

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Yes, indeed. She's got to razzle-dazzle 'em!

Give 'em the old flim flam flummox
Fool and fracture 'em

Give 'em the old double whammy
Daze and dizzy 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-lah

Or something like that! Right, Billy Flynn?

Tucker's Mom said...


XXXXX It was ordered by his doctors and school. He will be there until at least 16 but they see him once a week

^^^^
OMG.
How could you, Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Malevolent (45)
Where did you hear that Kate was going to Grey Gardens?
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That was my joke about at least one of the girls living with Kate in that musty compound, growing old together.

All This Is That said...

ucy in the Sky‏ @lucia_enelcielo 14h14 hours ago
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@Kateplusmy8 was so extra when it came to skiing ⛷🎿 #KatePlus8

Extra what? Extra annoying? Extra snotty?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

PA Dutch Mom (#53), I think Gladys wears the teasing like a badge of honor. It reinforces her role as Defender-In-Chief, and I think she sees her martyrdom as a way to win TFW's heart.

Sad but true said...

And the IG battle rages on, LOL.

jpjt94 Its funny how you fans keep claiming that the haters know nothing and yet you're all insisting that she's doing what's best for Collin.How do you all know this?@katileyy Like you said,if Kate gave a crap about her kids well being,she wouldn't of ignore Collin's issues all those years when it was obvious something was wrong.Not to mention ironic how Jon claimed he was concerned for some kids issues and Kate lied about them being at the top of their classes since she then admitted Jon was right about Collin's issues.If Kate actually cared about any of her kids well being she'd stopped filming,NOT go on to do episodes without him and claim that it was the best Birthdays ever without him.

jpjt94@Miloandjack2016 Aren't you the same the person who was begging Kate for an update on Collin on twitter?What do you call this file:///Users/jamestirrito/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202017-07-19%20at%206.52.56%20PM.png

Confused said...

Layla said... 52
Malevolent (45)
Where did you hear that Kate was going to Grey Gardens?_____________

Oh my. LOL This place is becoming like the blog version of Keystone Cops.

Tucker was JOKING. Malevolent must have taken it seriously. Guess we'd all better put that after any jokes or facetious things we might say.

JR said...

How can they possibly know if he has to be there Until age 16....wth...can these people be a little more believable

Unknown said...

another read over mistake thought someone said gray gardens. sorry all....

it sounds like to me that kate has been roasted she is done for.finally i hope the queen b has been outed

i just feel so sad for collin, i have a feeling after 16 collin will complete the program and move in with john. but tfw probably will have collin going some other place till 18.
I dont believe for one min every week they see him. collin might out come the most sane down to earth and smart. specially being away from a berating mother.

the day that episode came out of the gum and kate didnt cut it out or try picking it off, she just threw out collin in a way. my one child has a doll since birth she is almost 9 and has traveled the world with her she has fallin apart got lost has had gum or candy on her plus i cant count how many times i sew her. i would never throw her out even though she looks so beated up

i swear all collin needed was more one on one.

personally what was it that collin did so badly that hate turned her back on him so young?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


How can they possibly know if he has to be there Until age 16....wth...can these people be a little more believable


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That would be very unusual to have such a long commitment for a child to an institution. Usually such things are reevaluated on a standard schedule. In our state it's by law every six months a child's placement must be reevaluated and reconsidered, with consideration of return to their parents and home always an option.

The goal in all contexts not just dependent court, is return to the home. That's just the law.

Tucker's Mom said...

JR said... 60
How can they possibly know if he has to be there Until age 16....wth...can these people be a little more believable
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Isn't 16 when kids can choose to "age out" of the system.
They get kicked out at 18, I believe.

This feels true to me and I think Kate knew this all along.

"Plodding" my ass.

Tucker's Mom said...

i swear all collin needed was more one on one.
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I was at the pool recently and watched a mom work with her son who has Downs Syndrome. She was in the pool with him, working on motor coordination with throwing etc.
I thought to myself that Kate would never do that.
My neighbor has a grandson with a chromosomal disorder which leaves him severely handicapped and in need of constant therapy and special education needs.
His family works so hard to help him advance and this is just the way their family is. There is no getting rid of him because he's a burden. He's part of the family and they are great, just as they are.

So, I think Collin was perhaps removed from the home because Kate was failing to provide what he needed.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#66), let's say for argument's sake that TFW truly wasn't equipped to handle C's special needs situation on her own. Why didn't she ask the child's FATHER to HELP? Some regularly scheduled one-on-one time with his dad, away from the chaos and cameras at home, just might have made an appreciable difference in C's life. At least it would've been worth a try.

But no...that would've messed with TFW's (and TLC's) struggling single mom narrative. And it would have meant releasing the strangle hold of control over which kids she allows out of her house. For her to dramatically claim she exhausted every option before removing C from his home is a LIE if she never asked Jon -- her son's living, breathing, loving father--to help.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think if Collin went to Jon's to live, Kate would not be able to control what he said to whom.
I really believe that's part of her scheme- to keep the kids under her total control for as long as possible.
The twins are 16 now and have no public social media. That's very weird in this day and age.

Sheepless In Seattle said...


So, I think Collin was perhaps removed from the home because Kate was failing to provide what he needed.

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It sounds like Collin's issues were well beyond the scope of what Kate could do. She's not a therapist, a psychologist, or a mental health professional.

I hope that he's benefiting from his time away from her. Since she has mental issues, his being at home might be the worst thing for the child. She could only drag him down with her. He needs a positive influence in his life, and that certainly isn't Kate, and all of Milo's inane platitudes won't make it so.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

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