Sunday, April 10, 2016

Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''School Prep": Typically, everything purchased in this episode can be found much easier online, in general

Next time on the little people, little people swimming!


Coming up on Kate Plus 8, school shopping for clothes, backpacks, and Kate gets distracted by something shiny and starts buying things for herself. This is a literal repeat of at least a couple other back-to-school boring episodes, including Kate buying much more for herself than for the kids. No one in production is even trying to do something original, and why would they when phoning it in is enough? Kate doesn't believe in being fair because that wastes money. She should write a blog post on saving money by not being fair, Dave Ramsey would be proud.

It's always about Kate, Cara explains, who is old enough to be on to her mother but not old enough to realize when she should probably shush, which is my favorite age.

Kate is more orange than usual today in her couch interviews--I would say it's "Trump orange," which is a color I better patent soon before someone else steals it. But in the footage of her packing up the van her hue is back to normal, which is more eggshell white. Hannah gets stress headaches, Kate says as she discloses what should be confidential medical information. At 11 she's stressed? What on earth is she stressed about? Kate packs her into the van with a blanket.

Is that a booster seat? Wtf? I understand the carseat guidelines have shifted to include much older children now (in Pennsylvania, the law is booster seat up until age 7), but these kids are all way too old for that now. Most seat belts will fit children 4'9 and up comfortably and safely. None of these children are that short anymore. Give it up, Kate, they are not toddlers and haven't been for a long time.

It looks horrendous carting a sick child to the mall, I know, Kate says. Correct, it does. So why do it? A set teacher certainly wouldn't permit this or risk losing their license. Kate did the same to one of the boys not too long ago. They have a full time nanny, why can't Hannah stay behind with her? Kate explains this is just a Hannah thing and she'll get over it in a few hours.

There's Shoka again, a mere inches from the moving tires of a several-ton vehicle. Grr!!!

Dowdy Deanna just happened to be visiting and takes the twins off separately at the mall. Why couldn't Deanna stay home with Hannah, and make the twins suck it up and go with Kate and the rest of their siblings? Why do I hurt my brain wondering these things?

The boys say they don't like shopping other than for toys. By the looks of them they don't much enjoy endless couch interviews either as Aaden tosses his head back and lets out a huge yawn.

You know something that I didn't notice much in the past but is really starting to irritate me? How funny-cute Kate thinks she is. She tries to make these little self-depricating jokes and they're just annoying, not funny. "I get distracted by things I want to buy .... maybe I even acted like a person who had never been to a mall before. Did I remind you of someone like that? " She smiles like a goon.

Typically, no one cares what was done in year's past or why or how they need what they need, who likes what or doesn't, and all the whining and begging that ensues.

Joel says they don't want the same backpacks because that makes them look younger. Exactly!! Of course the kids don't want to dress alike or have the same things, contrary to the sheeple claiming maybe they like that. Of course they don't like that, no 11-year-old likes looking like a baby. The only nice thing about the fact that these kids a decade later are still working is that they are validating pretty much everything we predicted about how they likely feel. 

I enjoy watching Kate try to reason with a pre-teen. It's one of the few tolerable things left of this God forsaken reality show.

The kids want her to buy them water bottles but Kate passes on that, initially anyway. She says bottles get dirty and disgusting and they leave water in them and she ends up being the one always cleaning them out. I can't disagree there, reusable water bottles are a great idea in your perfect green fantasy but rarely work out in reality. I have a Contiga cup which is an incredible invention, when I get around to cleaning out last month's English breakfast tea.



Half a minute later Kate's buying them water bottles. She is either the biggest pushover in the world or is just trying to be on her best behavior for the cameras. Much like how she parents in general, she only seems to understand the tangible aspect of raising kids, the stuff, the things. She doesn't understand good parenting is not that you bought kids water bottles because they really wanted them, but rather good parenting is making sure your sick child stays home with someone they trust instead of being dragged along on this trip, or better yet shop on another day. Hannah says shopping stresses her mom out. I wonder if that's why Hannah in turn gets stressed out. 

Kate selects some tupperware and admits 90% of her shopping is done online. I was just going to say why don't they buy all this crap online like normal people? Does anyone even go to malls anymore? Malls are closing across the country at an alarming rate because people just don't go anymore. You can get better deals online usually anyway, and almost all stores now have a liberal return policy with free shipping no questions asked. You save stress, time, and gas and can try things on in the comfort of your own home. I'm guessing the other 10% of Kate's big box store shopping occurs solely because of the cameras. 

During an excruciatingly boring conversation about gym clothes I can hear one of the kids politely saying "excuse me, Mommy," trying to get her attention. She is ignored of course. It makes sense now why these kids shout, scream and stomp around so much. Being quiet and polite gets you nowhere. 

We're moving "owwn" to the next thing which is I guess clothes. This could easily have been the same footage from the premiere episode of this season, School's Out! where they went to the department store to buy luggage. It's that similar. Kate's helping Leah pick out some dresses and Alexis wants something too. Naturally Kate's comment about how shopping isn't always going to be fair was about Alexis, the least girlie of the girls. Figures. I'm not sure I even agree with Kate about how it can't be fair. It seems like this can easily be made fair. Give the kids each $50, $75 or whatever your budget is and have them pick out what they want with your approval. They're old enough to handle the money and pick out their clothes and that makes it perfectly fair. That noggin of hers sure thinks funny. 

This is rather interesting, I assumed the twins didn't want to shop with the younger kids because they seem to hate sharing the same planet as them, but Mady reveals that actually she doesn't understand why she didn't shop with the other kids since she needs clothes too, and that she "wasn't allowed." Wasn't allowed by whom? Production? Conversely, Kate claims the twins didn't want to shop with the younger kids. I immediately assume Kate's lying and Mady's telling the truth. So was separating them out done to have two separate shopping segments and stretch this out? Hmm!!

Anywho, the twins are with Deanna and picking out stuff and it's all absolutely uneventful and boring. Kate buys their boring stuff and then does that sarcastic "thank you, Mommy," thing that some annoying parents say to their kids when their kids forget to say thank you. In defense of Mady, Kate started it, and Mady explains that she was going to say thank you, was in fact about to say it. I'm going to give Mady the benefit of the doubt on this. They had just bought the shoes, at least give the child until the car ride home to thank her. 

This sets Mady off on a snide little tirade, accusing Kate of treating her like a brat. "Thank you, but you can say it to yourself," she snaps, whatever that means. She is I would guess about six months away from saying, "Thank you, but you should be thanking us because that's our money you're buying it with." Just ask the former child actor Missy Francis how old she was when she realized the same about her mother and started embezzling her own money to herself just to be sure she'd see any of it by the time she was 18. 

Mady can be trying, she's mean to her siblings and I think the way Kate allows her to speak to her is completely unacceptable, but I also understand what Mady's saying here, and that is that Kate is unreasonable, disrespectful and patronizing to her, yet expects perfect respect back. It's a set-up, it's unfair and certainly very obnoxious.

All Kate can do is sigh and ignore her at this point, and I think she's wise to shut up and just let Mady say her peace. Kate won't take any of it to heart though, which is a pity. A little give and take with this dysfunctional relationship might do wonders. 

It's a good thing we're not playing a drinking game this afternoon because I'd be soused to the gills. I just heard two typicallys and an "in general." Kate basically admits she's bribing the kids with pretzels. To buy shoes, or really just to stick around and film? I sense the latter. Mmm, I love mall pretzels. And mall cinnamon buns. That's all I miss about malls now that I don't go anymore like most people. Speaking of which, some of the finest television "short films" were made in a Cinnabon in Omaha. Watch Better Call Saul, the best show on television this year, and you'll understand.

I love the way Lancaster is pronounced in Pennsylvania: Lane-kes-ter. That is the correct way if I may say so. We have a Lancaster here, a medium-sized city in L.A. County but pronounced Lan-caster, and to go with its inferior pronunciation it's a desert with lots of snakes and varmints and not enough gas stations to run your tank down to almost empty and be fine.

How ironic, Kate has wonderful fond memories of her grandparents taking her to the mall. Grandpa gave them each $5 to spend. Sounds like even ole Gramps understands how to make shopping "fair."

The store didn't have a good selection of shoes, didn't have their sizes or the styles they want, and it doesn't look like they ended up buying anything. Remember those days? Now we have the inter-webs, where I promise you can find your size and style somewhere in that vast wonderland even if you might have to resort to ebay. Kate says for the second time how much she hates all this. Well, she makes it harder on herself. All this could be accomplished with a few clicks and a credit card that's already automatically entered by the little green men at Google. 

The little people are swimming again, which I realize now was a good excuse for production to try out their underwater camera rigs. They don't come cheap.

We're back with a completely unrelated subplot storyline to plot A, about how they're going to refurbish their picnic table. Kate and the younger kids head to the hardware store. The twins complain that they were not told they were going to the hardware store, they just woke up and they were gone. Sheesh, I hope schmoopy at least left them a note! Assuming it's true, that the twins weren't informed of this outing, this is what I mean by Kate not respecting them. You can't be as rude and inconsiderate as she apparently is to them, then expect respect back. It's a two-way street. 

Kate admits she doesn't "typically" take them to do errands like this, but the cameras are here so .... well, she really claims she took them them because this is going to be a whole-family project, but the truth is the kids are just in her way and she's not making any effort to include them in this shopping trip, and this is really about the cameras. 

Mady and Cara couldn't be more unenthused about helping to sand the table. They're insufferable but understandable.

Kate pulls out a power sander and makes a whole big deal about operating this machinery. This happened before too, just a couple episodes ago when she worked with a chain saw. I hate women who think its funny and cute when they tackle traditionally male jobs and act all damsel in distress about it. At one time this show recycled plot ideas from a season or two ago, now it's just an episode or two ago. It's like a blond bimbo high-pitched awful version of Groundhog Day, a movie I hate in the first placeHa, Kate's awful at sanding, it runs every which way taking the scenic route down the table. Either that or she's really playing up the woman fumbling around with power tools gag. Amy Schumer she is not. 

Of course most of the kids start to gradually wander away, bored, now that Kate is power sanding and not including them or even letting them try it. What does she expect? 

Just an observation now that yet another too long and boring segment is over, but why didn't they pull out the power sander sooner? Why did they all sit there with sandpaper blocks and slave away for who knows how long when Kate had a power sander right there all along that could have done the entire job in 10 minutes?

This is a rhetorical questions I suppose, and the answer to most of my rhetorical questions is usually, because it was being filmed. It makes no sense to do things quickly and efficiently when you're being filmed, then you'd never be able to find enough footage to fill up 60 minutes of this drivel every week. You can only roll your eyes I guess. The kids are half onto all this and will be all the way there soon. 

Commercials, and when we get back they're still sanding that god damned picnic table! I feel like I'm in sandpaper purgatory and can't get out. A somewhat new thing they are doing during the kids' couch interviews is have them say the same thing at the same time. It's Children of the Corn creepy.

Amy Schumer here is working with an air compressor now, acting all inept again. Blow me.

Kate's glad the full-time nanny Andrea happened to be there since for some reason Andrea knows about how to stain picnic tables. Why wouldn't Andrea be there? She is their full-time nanny. The kids trickle back in now, interested in painting. Instead of whining about it, maybe Kate should just appreciate what they are willing to help with, little as it is. Finally after two long segments the table is finished, it looks great and the kids are mildly proud of their efforts. It really is amazing what a little sanding and staining can do. That's what she said.

Commercials, this time the promo is about people who are 600 pounds and a network that still pretends watching people pull their rolls of fat out from their pants and roll it around has educational value.



We're back with the third subplot in this episode that's actually related to the school shopping this time, final preparations for their first day of school. Mady makes an interesting comment that it's not cool to be entering high school, though she likes they don't have to wear uniforms anymore. I have never in all my life met a kid who wasn't thrilled to finally be going to high school with the big kids, even if there were a little first day nerves about it. It's just a strange comment. The twins are going shopping for clothes again? The first trip wasn't enough?

They're at one of those small boutique clothing shops that most women can't afford to shop at until at least a decade after college is over and several salaried paychecks later. In typical Mady and Cara fashion the twins are ungrateful, disagreeable and unhelpful to the very nice salesperson helping them who apparently cleared the store out for them. Kate defends their rude and unacceptable behavior by saying she was just like that as a teen. Well, then they get it from her.

Kate can't help herself and goes after all the shiny stuff, grabbing up dresses and blouses and handbags like it's a pop-up swag tent. The twins knew that would happen, heh.

Kate's still defending Mady who is making snide comments by saying it was actually a round-about way for Mady to say Kate looked nice. Lol! Kate, "oh my gosh you look like a human" is not a nice comment no matter how you twist and turn yourself around to make it one. She is the worst, no wonder these twins are the way they are. The music during this segment was pulled from stock 17th century harpsichords, which is random. 

Up next, they're going to another boutique??? I really am in shock how much is being repeated and recycled in this episode, and the sheer greed I'm witnessing. 

At last the final segment. What's the point in clearing out an expensive boutique for ungrateful teenagers if they don't like anything? Cara is actually arguing with Kate that she has enough summer clothes, she doesn't want anymore, and Mady doesn't seem to want anything at this place. Why in the world is Kate pushing them into buying summer clothes on a back-to-school trip in the Northeast when 95% of your school year will be spent in winter clothes?

Kate complains they're in a phase where they have very narrow likes and don't want to branch out. So? That's normal. At that age I think I had one or two sweaters and a pair of jeans I wore to death, as long as they are washed regularly it's not hurting anything.  What does Kate care? Just get them what they like, online, and be done with it. She really picks a lot of fights she doesn't need to.

Mady gives Kate one too many "it's all about you" comments and Kate finally loses her shit, haha. Love it.

A third store???? This is truly agonizing. Just take my word for it absolutely nothing interesting happened here. Kate suggests she and Mady get these completely ugly sweater pants and share them, "share custody of them" she says. Oh yeah cause Kate's so great at sharing custody of anything. Mady, you'll never see those sweater pants again except maybe for a Tuesday night dinner once in awhile but that's it.

It's finally over, and next time we pick out more clothes but at least it's for Kate's fake-date, and her rather cute (!) suitor, nice selection from all those head shots, production! Baw-hahhaa, the side hug and turned cheek at the end of the date. Shade! Cannot wait.

Little people playing with bubbles, and we're out.

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TLC stinks said...

If it's a vanity title, then TLC passed the baton to an unseasoned producer or someone she intimidates because the show stinks. If that is the case, it proves TLC does care whether she is renewed or not. She is filler.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Admin If they're celebrating their birthday with both parents,i'd have no problem with this.I admitted this before but i'd be more then happy for the kids once they become adults and if they admit to people that they love both their parents despite the hatred for each other.

foxy said...

There is a gift on the end chair. It is towards the left of the seat and also a card. I really hope he seeing all of his children now. Kate does not realize the harm she is doing to them long term and for a couple of them the rest of their lives. She is a sickening disgusting person.

TLC stinks said...

Really, the kids are not that unique to me any longer. It was interesting when they were babies, but now with the kids growing up, she's no different than any other divorced parent out there with a large family (except for exploiting the kids for income, of course).

FlimsyFlamsy said...

It wouldn't surprise me if the kids have a little extra sadness around their birthdays, as they wish their parents could get along. Could you imagine what a gift it would be to them if TFW would finally just try to co-parent with their father? Heck, even something as small as letting Jon actually drive onto the property to pick his children up? What kind of pleasure does TFW
derive from setting that childish boundary:
a weekly reminder to the kids that their
father is her enemy?

confused said...

I agree. They also seemed a little lazy to me. No balloons, gifts, cards, or table settings visible, put open a package of large colorful chair covers, and voila, instant party.




There are table settings, paper plates and turquoise colored plastic cups, same as Jon's. Jon's table has paper plates and plastic cups as well. Kate tweeted her photo about 4 hrs ago. Could it be that she hadn't completed the decorating, i.e., putting out the gifts?

Oh, oh. I just noticed Jon said, "I can't believe you are 12 years old today!!! Twenty lashes.

Formerly Duped said...

OK, JMO and I may be quoted at Sageway or whatever, but notice how Kate always chooses the same color for two girls tups, and another for two boys, yet the odd ones out of the boys and the girls gets a different one. I know, I know petty. Just something I noticed with clothing, backpacks etc over the years.

Midnight Madness said...

You've also called the programs featuring little people and others who differ from the norm a TLC freak show. Again, that speaks to your own perceptions. They are not being portrayed as freaks, you perceive them to be freaks.

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Oh, for Pete's sake. Stop with this picking and condescending remarks. This gets very tiring real fast. Just find a blog where you can vent and attack. This obviously isn't the one for you. I'm sick of reading your insults. In other words, now shoo, and watch TLC's episode with the guy consummating his relationship with his car. If that's not a freak show, I don't know what is.

TLC stinks said...

Formerly Duped, I thought it was just me! I noticed that too!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


If it's a vanity title, then TLC passed the baton to an unseasoned producer or someone she intimidates because the show stinks

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The show does stink. It might just be a budget thing though. You could have a strong production team but if all you give them is a shoe string budget there's not much they acn do with it. They're also working with difficult and untalented talent. The kids' comments aren't interesting and they don't go into much detail on anything, some of them just sit there others barely manage to grunt, and Kate's Kate. In a fictional product you could fire some or all of the kids that are turning out to not be comfortable with the cameras as they age, and get new enthusiastic ones. This happens all the time. They don't have this option. They're making stone soup here.

Still, it does have a "lazy", checked out, contractually obligated feel to it. Like whoever is in charge isn't exactly trying to make this their magnum opus.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 4
Really, the kids are not that unique to me any longer. It was interesting when they were babies, but now with the kids growing up, she's no different than any other divorced parent out there with a large family (except for exploiting the kids for income, of course).
May 10, 2016 at 2:35 PM
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At this point, certainly. The whole "OMG! How do they manage with 8 kids/6 babies at once?" is long past. Kate tried to make it about how she manages to do it "all alone" as a "single" mom, but that's no mystery either.
Kate had help then, and she has help now. Well, now she also has a whole lot more money.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's normal for a parent, friend or relative to marvel at how quickly kids grow up and how they cannot believe they are fill in the blank: 5, 10, 12, 18.

Actually, I remember even as a kid finding constant comments like that a little old. I think it would be nice for folks to try to discuss something more substantive with kids they haven't seen in a long time rather than just standing there mouth agape gasping over how much they've grown. Not much a kid can say to that. How about ask about school, sports, hobbies, interests? Engage them.

Anyway, there is a funny meme that says something like, Yep look at me all grown--kids tend to do that.

Anonymous said...

Jon's birthday table looks much more festive than TFW's. Did the package of chair covers contain only five?

bm

Anonymous said...

OOPS, I looked again and there are six chair covers. The "empty" chair had me confused...sorry about that, I guess I was having a senior moment.

bm

Terri said...

Something I find very unusual. It is 8:30pm and still not one tweet from TLC wishing the G6 a happy birthday. I'm almost positive that in years past they have sent out a HB tweet. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Sherry Baby said...


Oh, for Pete's sake. Stop with this picking and condescending remarks. This gets very tiring real fast. Just find a blog where you can vent and attack. This obviously isn't the one for you. I'm sick of reading your insults. In other words, now shoo, and watch TLC's episode with the guy consummating his relationship with his car. If that's not a freak show, I don't know what is.

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My sediments exactly. Thanks for posting that. If you wouldn't have said it, I would have! Wading through sheeple droppings isn't really my idea of a pleasant spring activity.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She likes to tease her fans and not give them any information other than what they have to get by watching her show on TLC. For some reason she thinks that is better than actively promoting her show.



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She's stupid when it comes to promotion. Just so stupid.

Jamesvader1194 said...

You know what i find odd?Still no Milo.Yeah im not convince she's just busy with family for 4 months.There's nothing family wise that would keep a person like her off social media for 4 months.Something had to of either happened to her or she did get the boot by Kate.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

You know what i find odd?Still no Milo.Yeah im not convince she's just busy with family for 4 months.There's nothing family wise that would keep a person like her off social media for 4 months.Something had to of either happened to her or she did get the boot by Kate.You know what i find odd?Still no Milo.Yeah im not convince she's just busy with family for 4 months.There's nothing family wise that would keep a person like her off social media for 4 months.Something had to of either happened to her or she did get the boot by Kate.

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They communicate in other ways. ;)

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if TFW is watching "Outdaughtered" right
now? I bet she's carefully tracking the competition, and will be waiting for the ratings
tomorrow with bated breath.

Math Girl said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 12

It's normal for a parent, friend or relative to marvel at how quickly kids grow up and how they cannot believe they are fill in the blank: 5, 10, 12, 18.

Actually, I remember even as a kid finding constant comments like that a little old. I think it would be nice for folks to try to discuss something more substantive with kids they haven't seen in a long time rather than just standing there mouth agape gasping over how much they've grown.
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Don't know if I've posted this before, but I'll do it even if it is a repeat.

The current Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau met Queen Elizabeth II recently. He had met her once before - in 1977, when he was five years old.

My husband knew the background of the visit, and he said "I wonder if she's going to say 'My how you've grown'". She didn't, but he said "You know, you were much taller than me the last time we met."

My husband hated the "my how you've grown" remarks he got from his relatives when he was a child.

Localyocul said...

BarbOates
@ChannelGuideBo
This #OutDaughtered family is adorable! @TLC now. Let's hope they don't go Gosselin.

The Busbys
@ItsABuzzWorld
@ChannelGuideBO 😳😘

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My husband hated the "my how you've grown" remarks he got from his relatives when he was a child.


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I really hated it too. I think most kids do.

I tried to remember they hadn't seen me in awhile and I must look different but I do think adults that obsess over that could think of more interesting things to say to children.

url said...

i'd be more then happy for the kids once they become adults and if they admit to people that they love both their parents despite the hatred for each other.
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This is simply my opinion but I don't think the kids should have to 'admit' ANYthing to ANYone, (much less their PERSONAL feelings about their parent!) especially to a stranger.

See, this is exactly what Kate & Jon did to their family all those years ago when they signed on the dotted line for a reality show. They've opened the gates of the public to think they have a 'right' to tell their children what to say, when to say it and to whom/who.


Sheepless In Seattle said...

This is simply my opinion but I don't think the kids should have to 'admit' ANYthing to ANYone, (much less their PERSONAL feelings about their parent!) especially to a stranger.

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I agree. It's not the job of the kids to make anyone "happy" by admitting or denying anything. This is all their business. They also shouldn't live their lives by walking on eggshells just to make sure that nobody, especially internet strangers, has a problem one way or the other with the feelings that they have about either parent.

TLC stinks said...

Tweets about Outdaughtered:

Finally a show that has both parents and extended family involved. @TLC you have a hit. #OutDaughtered

Absolutely loved the pilot of #OutDaughtered on @TLC! As a #twinmom I felt so many emotions come back! @ItsABuzzWorld are superparents! ❤️
Outdaughtered is officially my new favorite show right now. My heart is so full ❤️💛💚💙💜 @ItsABuzzWorld

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And on and on......

TLC stinks said...

And then there's this on TLC Facebook:

Why do people exploit their children. Why do viewers enjoy the exploitation so much. It's sick to me.

Looks like another John and Kate...

Localyocul said...

I watched Outdaughtered. It was really cute. They cried quite a bit which is more emotion than I've ever seen out of the Godselins. But then they showed the premiere where they are looking for a bigger house. Sigh

fidosmommy said...

I saw a prescription meds ad on TV that uses "That's Life" as the score. (Frank Sinatra made it famous decades ago, substituting "king" for "queen". Apparently the original score used "queen".)

Anyway, I started thinking about the song and it started to remind me of someone. It's not a perfect analogy, but not bad.


That's life. (That's life)
That's what all the people say
You're riding high in April, shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June

I said that's life. (That's life)
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stomping on a dream
But I don't let it, let it get me down
'Cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin' around


That's life. (That's life)
I tell you, I can't deny it
I thought of quitting, baby but my heart just ain't gonna buy it
And if I didn't think it was worth one single try
I'd jump right on a big bird and then I'd fly

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a queen
I've been up and down and over and out and I know one thing
Each time I find myself layin' flat on my face
I just pick myself up and get back in the race

That's life. (That's life)
That's life and I can't deny it
Many times I thought of cutting out but my heart won't buy it
But if there's nothing shaking come this here July
I'm gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if TFW is tempted to tweet about Outdaughtered, to comment about how lucky the parents are to have only 5 babies and only one older child to manage. Did you know she had
6 at once, and had twins at home?

I remember an early couch interview when TFW
and Jon said something about being a well-oiled machine -- how well they worked together to get things done. It was so sweet, and they seemed
to genuinely love and appreciate each other.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: dancing with the stars is so entertaining! Two more weeks to go! Next week, double elimination, then finale. It's been fun having Len back as a judge.
Survivor just has two more episodes also. I think Mark the chicken should win! He has lasted almost the entire time without getting eaten, and he doesn't even lay eggs! Mark is what Tai named one of the chickens, and no one dares to kill and eat Mark (so far).
Watching Mark the chicken walk around and peck and get hugged by Tai is more genuine emotion and more entertaining than any scripted reality show.

Tucker's Mom said...


url said... 24
i'd be more then happy for the kids once they become adults and if they admit to people that they love both their parents despite the hatred for each other.
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This is simply my opinion but I don't think the kids should have to 'admit' ANYthing to ANYone, (much less their PERSONAL feelings about their parent!) especially to a stranger.
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Hopefully one day, the kids will mature and sort out their feelings for their parents without the awful stuff that's been projected on them. Especially the ones who are estranged from Jon right now.
It will take some time and a lot of strength to decide what they really want for themselves and to own that, in spite of how they think one parent or the other will react to it.
Imagine being told to never make the mistake of marrying a man like your father when he's your dad, whom you love!

Tucker's Mom said...

I remember an early couch interview when TFW
and Jon said something about being a well-oiled machine -- how well they worked together to get things done. It was so sweet, and they seemed
to genuinely love and appreciate each other.
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Kate did praise Jon quite a bit, and I think she appreciated how he was able to show all the kids love like they were each singlets, when she never could.

TLC stinks said...

I foresee a lot of counseling in the future for those kids. Even without the burden of reality TV, think about what life must be like living with a narcissist mother.

There are more and more positive tweets about Outdaughtered. If anything, it's reminding folks what J+K was in the beginning. She's in trouble if fans start comparing the two shows. Kate's evolution has not been pretty.

Jamesvader1194 said...

I didn't mean to sound like i wanted the kids to tell me about their relationship with their parents.But i just think it would be heartbreaking if they came out and claimed they hated both or one of them.I wouldn't try to force the kids to hate one of their parents by sending them an old negative article about Kate and i certainly hope none of the fans who dislikes Jon doesn't do the same.

fade2black said...

url@24 See, this is exactly what Kate & Jon did to their family all those years ago when they signed on the dotted line for a reality show.
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You're exactly right, and reading about a new family gaily tripping down the tlc yellow road makes me feel like we have learned nothing. I find it very sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Which to you prefer? The Busby's savvy social media presence or Kate's lack thereof? No pleasing you. She would never get it right, but neither do the Busby's. You talk out of both sides of your mouth regularly.


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Excuse me, I was very clear in multiple comments that the Busby's were doing an absolutely fabulous job at social media. Just wonderful. 10 out of 10.

I haven't the first clue what you're getting at. Kate's stupid with social media, the Buzzes are savvy. There is no talking out of both sides of the mouth here. I never said anything different, so you're lying, again.

I don't LIKE the Buzzes because they are using their children to make bank, but I never said they are bad at social media. Social media savvy, and liking a family, are not mutually exclusive.

I think it's hilarious Kate got replaced by the Buzzes, but for fans you must be in total panic mode. Here's a thought, move on. Kate doesn't care that you're upset.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Curious, here's one of my comments from the other day to refresh your memory. Nothing about my comments have been at all inconsistent. Kate still sucks at social media and you know it:

" They (the Buzzes) are social media savvy even if I don't agree with what they say sometimes."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You're exactly right, and reading about a new family gaily tripping down the tlc yellow road makes me feel like we have learned nothing. I find it very sad.

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The Buzzes are being deliberately obtuse, and judging by their defensive comments before much has even been said suggesting they are doing anything wrong, it shows that they KNOW what they are doing could very likely lead to very bad things for their family. They know it, but are still doing it because greed and arrogance overcomes reason and best interest of the children for this particular family. I find it ironic a family claiming to be so religious is falling for such deadly sins.

I take heart in this, for every family like the Buzzes, it seems like there are two or three other families who have passed on reality shows and fame, saying no thanks, that's not for us in light of what's happened to others. Progress is being made.

Most people are learning, even if there still remains some families deliberately ignoring history.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#37), are Curious, Disturbed and Confused
the same person? If so, bless her heart for all
the emotional distress she must experience reading here. I'm still not sure why this is the place she's spending so much time. She might be Satisfied, Happy, and Illuminated if she read
and commented elsewhere.

Formerly Duped said...

Wonder if the Busbys read the Dionne letter....

TLC stinks said...

I am pretty sure there's a TLC assistant with the Busby media. It's very up to date and professionally done. TLC has learned from mistakes: Do not depend on your talent to promote themselves, i.e. Katie G.

Mel said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 40
Admin (#37), are Curious, Disturbed and Confused the same person?


I was wondering the same thing. It seems that her posts here are a topic elsewhere first, and then she pops up here later re: the same thing, acting like it's an original thought on her part. Lame.

I guess she thinks she's being clever.

My vote is ignore, ignore, ignore. You can't have a rational conversation with someone who just wants to be argumentative.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am pretty sure there's a TLC assistant with the Busby media. It's very up to date and professionally done. TLC has learned from mistakes: Do not depend on your talent to promote themselves, i.e. Katie G.

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In this day in age you can spin straw into gold by spending a mere $75,000 on a social media director. They'd be nuts not to have this in their budget for this show.

Tucker's Mom said...

I take heart in this, for every family like the Buzzes, it seems like there are two or three other families who have passed on reality shows and fame, saying no thanks, that's not for us in light of what's happened to others. Progress is being made.
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That large Catholic family of boys cited Jon and Kate and weighted that heavily in their decision to pass on a reality tv show. With milestones like weddings happening now, they are so happy that these events haven't become filming bonanzas for ratings.

fade2black said...

Admin @39...Yes, it's heartening to see other families choosing mediocre family values over fame and fortune, what I find so discouraging is the gleeful anticipation of viewers. We know what's going to happen as well as if we were reading the script, yet viewers still tune in to see the cute babies and frazzled parents. Tlc will never stop as long as they have an audience.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 41
Wonder if the Busbys read the Dionne letter....
*****
Their impassioned plea made the pain of their traumatic childhood palpable and unambiguous. The parallels between filming reality tv kids to their circus tent of a "home" are patently similar, and in many ways, only resonated stronger in this day and age of social media and The Internet.
How this could fall upon deaf ears is beyond me when you are supposed to put your child's needs before your own without question.
The risks simply are too high.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 42
I am pretty sure there's a TLC assistant with the Busby media. It's very up to date and professionally done. TLC has learned from mistakes: Do not depend on your talent to promote themselves, i.e. Katie G.
May 11, 2016 at 8:02 AM
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I've been surprised that TLC didn't either make Kate take her blog down, or tell her that they were going to manage it. It is a disaster and reflects poorly on them.
IIRC, Kate started that blog after TLC canceled her show.

Math Girl said...

I noticed that both of the "new" families have lots of photos done by professional photograhers on their sites. I don't know if TLC is paying, if they the photographer is providing them in exchange for publicity, or if the parents are paying (and considering it a "business" expense).

Anonymous said...

According to the Inquisitr In Touch Weekly is reporting: "TLC has not yet officially renewed Kate Plus 8 for a fifth season".


bm

TLC stinks said...

TLC must not have included the expense of a media assistant for Kate or if they did, she pocketed the money and did it herself.

TLC stinks said...

If the Busbys are giving credit to the professional photographers, there's deal worked but I believe TLC is paying.

Dmasy said...

If the Busby family ratings are healthy, it might indicate that TLC's viewer appetite for cute babies and harried families has not lessened.

TLC might conclude that Kate has out grown her audience -- quite literally.

Link? said...

According to the Inquisitr In Touch Weekly is reporting: "TLC has not yet officially renewed Kate Plus 8 for a fifth season".


bm


Got a link for that? The Inquisitr page is too much of a jumble to find anything.

Tucker's Mom said...

If you get a chance, watch Dr. Phil today and see just how dangerous it is to put your kids out there for others to see, "know" and even covet.
It's about "digital kidnapping". A mother was posting tons of pics of her twin girls on a twins website, and a crazy woman lifted her girls' photos and started to use them as her own-even to the point of putting the twins photos up in frames in her home.
The real danger is that these crazy people might become so enamored and desperate that they might try to come and get the kids because they really think of them as their own.
Sound familiar? A tattoo of one of the tup girls on a fan's arm?

These parents need a Purse Boy!

Tucker's Mom said...

ps...Joy- got hummingbirds today!

Dmasy said...

Tucker's Mom, I am watching Dr. Phil right now. The digital kidnapper is sticking to her lies. Why would she consent to going on the Dr. Phil show and then tell such bold untruths? She is scary.

I still have about 1/2 of the show to watch.

Jane said...

http://www.inquisitr.com/3084734/kate-gosselin-celebrates-sextuplets-12th-birthday-will-they-show-it-on-tv/

One sentence at the end of this article mentioning that TLC hasn't officially announced the show's renewal.

Tucker's Mom said...

Dmasy said... 57
Tucker's Mom, I am watching Dr. Phil right now. The digital kidnapper is sticking to her lies. Why would she consent to going on the Dr. Phil show and then tell such bold untruths? She is scary.

I still have about 1/2 of the show to watch.
May 11, 2016 at 1:23 PM
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That woman is flat-out nuts!
I'm hoping that Dr. Phil gets around to telling the parents that their decision to put their girls out there on the internet, for any unbalanced person to become obsessed with, is how this whole thing started.
They need to get this across.

FYI said...

Ratings are in for last night:

Little People, Big World--1.516 million viewers--.34 share

Outdaughtered--1.249 million viewers--.29 share

The only recent episode of Kate plus 8 that beat Outdaughtered was the School Prep episode with 1.289 million viewers.

Of course, these were premiere episodes, but it will be interesting to see how Outdaughtered holds up against Kate plus 8.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-10-2016.html

prairiemary said...

Thanks for your kind words Formerly & Tucker's Mom, it must feel empty once out parents pass on. Must live like every day is the last.
Joy in Virginia, love, love Portulaca! No planting here for a few weeks yet, we started getting snow last night, still snowing all day today!

FYI said...

Seems like the Busby's are on the defensive already. This if from their FB page:

xxxxx
I am probably going to stir the pot big time here, but, no I did not watch it. I have followed your blog since shortly after you discovered you were pregnant and I do love seeing the updated pictures. That said, just because you were fortunate enough to have 5 girls at once does not mean you have to flaunt it all over TV. Yes, you had them all at once, but their are many families out their who have 5 children who would give anything to have just a tiny portion of all the free handouts you have received and will continue to receive because of flaunting your family on multiple TV shows. Just back off and enjoy your family, let those beautiful girls grow up normally, not constantly be stuck in front of a camera.

It's A Buzz World
We look at it with a completely different perspective. One of God's Grace, Love, and provision for our family. Sorry...
We believe that God has blessed us because of the faithfulness that we have showed Him though circumstances that we have been placed in. We didn't take the easy way out when things looked really hard. We had faith that God would carry us and these babies through and He did. We praised him in the good times and the hard times and our platform to proclaim his goodness has only increased.
God has poured out his love on us through other people by helping hands or "hand outs" (as you would call them) and we have learned to embrace that and allow others to do that. We haven't always been that way. It was very awkward for us to accept anything from anyone until a very wise person at church told us to "not take that from someone" that wants to help us. Someone that may not be able to some over and help with the babies, but wants to help in some other way.
So, please do not attack us for these blessings. We know our purpose and God holds our future and is directing us through this.



Sounds like the same thing Kate once said on an episode about viewers wanting to send them gifts.

"Who am I to say no?"

fidosmommy said...

Well, it sounds like all Mama Busby needs is a friend to tell her spa days will make her a better mommy. Especially if the friend pays for it.

Jane said...

Sheesh. Maybe Kate hired herself out as a consultant to the Buzzes. Can you say verbatim?

Tucker's Mom said...

Sounds like the same thing Kate once said on an episode about viewers wanting to send them gifts.

"Who am I to say no?"
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Exactly. Here's how you do it. You tell people to donate to another charity and offer their prayers instead of material gifts.

But, they were hand-picked by God to have HOM's and be on the teevee, dontcha know.

Ah, their garage will overfloweth with gifts galore and when they're both not working jobs and just filming and exploiting their children, they can spend all day opening freebies and presents like it's Christmas morning every blessed day!!!!!!!

fidosmommy said...

I hear the Busby's humble spirits toward God, and they are thankful. But what I don't hear is any real humbleness toward their donors. It sounds to me like
"You wanna help us? We knew you would. The house key is under the mat, just c'mon in and leave it in the front hall. Did somebody think to set up a gofundme
account? We think you should. Oh BTW, thanks, and be sure to let God know we would never insult you by suggesting you do something for a truly in-need family in your own neighborhood. That would be rude. Grifting, however, is for God's benefit."

jamezvader1194 said...

Doesn't Intouch weekly now support Kate?I remember ever since she announced Collin having issues,intouch wrote an article about how they support Kate because of something she did on the episode she announce the whole Collin thing.I have no idea if they still do or not.

localyocul said...

Oh gag. How holier than thou!! People pray for things all the time and don't get their prayers answered! My friend would have her teenage son alive now if that were the case! How dare she say she is more holy and therefore "graced by God" to get freebies. When I was a kid I took CCD VERY seriously. I said my prayers every night. One night a nun told us that God would answer our prayers if we had complete faith. Well I did; I had the faith of a child. I said my prayers and woke up the next day, looked in the mirror, and still had freckles. Boy was I shaken up LOL.

Another thing, they said on the show they met when they were 17 and 19 or 20. She was married at 20 or so then they traveled the world, all these exotic vacations. Didn't look like missionary stuff. Nothing was said about college. Now they have a nice house. What does he do for a living, at least before TLC came along? She said he's in "industrial communications" for the oil companies. Whatever that means.

God didn't answer your prayers honey, TLC did

Sue said...

TFW's birthday tweets to her kids were all about her and what she was doing:

HAPPIEST OF BIRTHDAYS 2 my 6! A 12yr journey of love&learning & I wouldn't have it any other way! Thx4making my life 6 Xs better! #12

Getting ready 4 the 12th BIRTHDAY BASH..Cooking, baking,decorating for 6 of the 1's I L❤️VE! #HappyBirthdayMyBabies

While Jon simply said he lovesthem:

Happy 12th Birthday to Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah & Joel!!! Daddy loves you!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Kate is a twit (#62), good golly, that was a revealing little comment. Look how Mrs. Buzz perceived the advice, which was fairly innocuously worded, as an "attack."

And I don't believe for a nanosecond that it was awkward for them to accept things. You don't put your life out on display like that and not count on getting something out of it. Are we to believe they never watched J&K+8? That they didn't already see themselves in a new, bigger house, with vacations and theme park trips on the horizon? If they were truly that innocent and devout, why didn't they have their donors give their time and money to a family in their community that was truly in need instead?

A Ninny Mouse said...

localyocul said... 68

Oh gag. How holier than thou!! People pray for things all the time and don't get their prayers answered! My friend would have her teenage son alive now if that were the case! How dare she say she is more holy and therefore "graced by God" to get freebies. When I was a kid I took CCD VERY seriously. I said my prayers every night. One night a nun told us that God would answer our prayers if we had complete faith. Well I did; I had the faith of a child. I said my prayers and woke up the next day, looked in the mirror, and still had freckles. Boy was I shaken up LOL.

Another thing, they said on the show they met when they were 17 and 19 or 20. She was married at 20 or so then they traveled the world, all these exotic vacations. Didn't look like missionary stuff. Nothing was said about college. Now they have a nice house. What does he do for a living, at least before TLC came along? She said he's in "industrial communications" for the oil companies. Whatever that means.

God didn't answer your prayers honey, TLC did
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Our Lord Jesus Christ was working through TLC. Duh. WWJD? He'd give material things to those who don't deserve it.

Sandylove said...

I was just reading an article about the Busby's being on GMA the other day and one of the things they said...gee, where have we heard THIS before?!
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"Adam said having the cameras following them throughout the girls’ entire life has been “pretty good. We had them with us from the very beginning,” he added. “We got used to it pretty quick. The camera crew almost became like family members. Blayke was calling our producer Uncle Brad, so we took right to it. It hasn’t been too bad.”

Tucker's Mom said...

Blayke was calling our producer Uncle Brad, so we took right to it. It hasn’t been too bad.”
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Oh, Mr. Buzzface, when your wife gives you the boot, precious Blayke is going to be calling him "Crew Daddy".
Or just "Dad" for short.

Good times!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sandylove (#82), no wonder these reality TV
families find their homes to be too small for
them -- they're overrun with crew daddies!

foxy said...

When the volunteers leave we will see how quickly things escalate in the marriage woes. Maybe 4 more years and that will be it for them. Although the wife doesn't seem the same type as Kate, with plastic surgery, heavy duty make-up, body guard being flaunted, etc. Maybe reality TV will not be as popular in a couple of years.

All This Is That said...

Twitter confuses the heck out of me.

Save Collin ‏@PRFANS 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Who are you talking to? Are the children on Twitter?

This is true, but if Kate has the haters/non-fans blocked, then why do they tweet to her? Can she see those tweets if they are blocked?

Over And Out said...

OT for those who can't look away from the Church Ladies:

Barbie Jean Sayre
@barbiejeansayre
Well fount out why Jake ain't been come n round boy says he likes boy AN girls call himself a bicicsual ain't rite atall boys broken

Barbie Jean Sayre
@barbiejeansayre
Ya either like boys or girls not BOTH life ain't a buffet boys gonna here it from ME win he's mama pulls her head outta her depress ol hide

Bicicsual? How would you even pronounce that? lol!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Well, I have to weigh in on t he Busby comments. It is very Christian to thank the Lord for the blessings that you have received. However, to contract with a production company and do a reality show, and put on a public website a list of things you want, is not God blessing your decisions. It is you publicly asking for handouts and generous people who sincerely want to help because children are involved. To my way of thinking, because of how many families of multiples have done this in the past and had success with it, it is just another family taking advantage if what has worked for others and they are masking it in "God's will".

I do not believe that God wanted people to set up websites to ask for donations from others to help them live the life that they chose. Yes, the bible does tell us to help the poor and those in need, but there is NO precedence for setting up "begging booths" to ask people to give to you.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

I hope my previous comment does not offend anyone, but being a Christian, I have a problem with people that beg and take advantage of others in the name of God.

Tucker's Mom said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 79
I hope my previous comment does not offend anyone, but being a Christian, I have a problem with people that beg and take advantage of others in the name of God.
May 11, 2016 at 6:39 PM
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I totally get it. On the one hand, these folks are begging for freebies, which they justify as God's will moving people. On the other hand, once they beg, who are they to say no?
No matter how you slice it, it works out for them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

now" and even covet.
It's about "digital kidnapping". A mother was posting tons of pics of her twin girls on a twins website, and a crazy woman lifted her girls' photos and started to use them as her own-even to the point of putting the twins photos up in frames in her home.



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That sounds like Robin William's masterpiece One Hour Photo. Absolutely creepy but well done movie.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sigh, the Buzzes. Well they've certainly proved our point, haven't they?

This is the problem with them taking the cheap way out and, whenever anyone questions them, even politely, they just put it all back on God. How do you argue with it? There is no counter to God's will, an argument I nonetheless see as completely irrational, illogical, and unreasonable. You can argue virtually ANYTHING as long as you have just proclaimed it's God's will. You might as well argue it's okay to kill and rape someone because it's what God wanted.

The arrogance of them to use this abstract "God" thing as a way to justify their own poor choices not in their children's best interest. How about argue this like a grown up? Leave God out of it and explain why it's okay to exploit your kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

t being a Christian, I have a problem with people that beg and take advantage of others in the name of God.


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I think it's disgusting when anyone uses God to justify anything, including bad or questionable behavior. I think Christians not only should be upset over this behavior but should be calling it out.

People like the Buzzes do religion a disservice.

Tucker's Mom said...

You can argue virtually ANYTHING as long as you have just proclaimed it's God's will.
******
It's exactly what Kate did to influence Christians for so long. God's will, babies, no reduction.
I think that's the patented recipe for Teflon.

Any Christian who questions or heaven forbid-voices dissent or disapproval-is immediate met with the "throw the first stone" chestnut. So, what do they do? They toe the party line.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The camera crew almost became like family members. Blayke was calling our producer Uncle Brad, so we took right to it. It hasn’t been too bad.”

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And what do they know about Uncle Brad and his background? Has he had a Livescan, child abuse index check, and been cleared as safe to be around minors? What is Brad's interest in working on a show featuring six little girls, how did he get there? Does he spend time alone with the children or is someone else always there?

Tucker's Mom said...

How about argue this like a grown up? Leave God out of it and explain why it's okay to exploit your kids.
******
Without the religious patina, you see the picture of Dorian Gray.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Any Christian who questions or heaven forbid-voices dissent or disapproval-is immediate met with the "throw the first stone" chestnut. So, what do they do? They toe the party line.

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Exactly. In a way, it's a very SMART argument, although a cheap one.

If you say there is no God well then your opinion means nothing to believers so that takes care of those folks.

If you are Christian you feel tremendous pressure not to question God's will (even though you could just as credibly proclaim that this is NOT God's will, but who's counting).

If you do dare to question it, you're not just questioning them, you're questioning the very creator.

No one is allowed to say how the F do YOU know what God thinks of all this, because they've totally trapped you.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm surprised, sort of, that Outdaughtered didn't have much to write home with in ratings.

On the other hand, I really do believe the multiples thing has run its course. It will never, ever again be as interesting as it was when the Dilleys and McCaughleys were having their kids. It's over.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 86
I'm surprised, sort of, that Outdaughtered didn't have much to write home with in ratings.

********
I am too. Very surprised that their viewing numbers were nothing to write home about. Not an auspicious start.
Better have a backup plan for that mortgage and don't quit your day job.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The production values on Little People Big World are so much better than the Gosselins.

There are plot lines, with tension, and a beginning, middle and end. Like Zach and Tori visiting Jeremy and Audrey and bringing their dog. Will he or won't he ruin the house? When he does, will Jeremy and Audrey be mad forever?

Meanwhile subplot B back at the farm involves Matt reluctantly allowing Amy to throw a party at the house, and she trashes one of his fields out back doing donuts. Will this be the straw to drive an irreparable wedge between them?

There are continuity and cliffhangers, like the way they are stretching out Matt and Amy's problems from episode to episode.

For a reality show, it's really in top form.

When you watch kate's show, it's a hodge podge of random events seemingly set up to cause contact, though often they don't. Most plot points bear no relation to any other plot point, and it's rare to have a true story arc.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not contact, CONFLICT.

Math Girl said...

I have an close acquaintance (note that I don't call her a friend) who has serious health issues. She ruthlessly exploits her friends, many of whom have health issues of their own, to transport her to all her activities, take her shopping, load her stroller into and out of her car, etc. I swore I'd never drive her anywhere again because she was seriously late getting ready for her appointed pickup, which seriously inconvenienced everyone, but especially the person who was left kicking her heels at the destination, awaiting our arrival.

Anyway, this person feel that she is doing people a favor by asking for their help, because she "allows them to feel good about helping her." This may apply to the strangers she accosts in parking lots asking for help with her walker (seriously!), but not so much to her rapidly diminishing circle of friends. She won't listen when anyone tries to tell her that she is imposing, and any refusal of a particular favor makes her go all huffy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin (#37), are Curious, Disturbed and Confused
the same person?


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Yes, I think they are along with the various anonymi.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Anyway, this person feel that she is doing people a favor by asking for their help, because she "allows them to feel good about helping her." This may apply to the strangers she accosts in parking lots asking for help with her walker (seriously!), but not so much to her rapidly diminishing circle of friends. She won't listen when anyone tries to tell her that she is imposing, and any refusal of a particular favor makes her go all huffy.

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Huh. I hattttte asking for help, it mortifies me. Others here like this? It's not just feeling pride over having to ask for help, it's true embarrassment that anyone would even be slightly inconvenienced for me. I was the kid who would rather carry every single box out of my dorm even if it took all day, rather than phone a BFF to come help. Not that there is anything wrong with asking for help in certain situations like that one. But, I don't.

It's really interesting to see people who don't feel that sense of discomfort at asking help and just the opposite seem to bask in it--as I do believe discomfort is the more common emotion to feel.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Admin (#37), are Curious, Disturbed and Confused
the same person?


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Yes, I think they are along with the various anonymi.

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So why not simply sign in as Curious, Disturbed and Confused? Wouldn't that make things much easier? :)

url said...

in spite of how they think one parent or the other will react to it.
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Tucker's mom, their parents and unknown, internet commenting strangers are two entirely different things.

Do you ever feel those kids are overanalyzed a bit? Not by their bizarre parents but by us, here? I'm beginning to feel, as these kids mature into young adults, that discussing their feelings just seems wrong.

It's probably long overdue but I think I'm done commenting on them myself. makes me feel weird inside.

Carole said...

I think those chair covers are little childish for 12 yr olds. (others may not think so though.)
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I agree. They also seemed a little lazy to me. No balloons, gifts, cards, or table settings visible, put open a package of large colorful chair covers, and voila, instant party.

As part of party decor, OK, but as "instant party", I see a fail.

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A tired, recycled, lazy party decor. She's used those chair back covers for years for the tup's birthdays.

Localyocul said...

I hate asking for help to. I hate even taking help when it's offered

Tucker's Mom said...

Url....I'm simply wishing the kids peace and a loving relationship with both parents if that's possible. I'm not being critical them.

TLC stinks said...

Maybe, with those ratings, viewers are tiring of the Little People and the big family shows. Does not speak well for Kate's tired show. TLC is dipping its toe into scripted programming and if viewers respond well to that, hopefully somebody there will re-evaluate their reality programming. Regardless, I think reality TV has run its course except for a few exceptions. Kate better start looking for a new career, hopefully sans kids. Maybe the Busbys are just too much like J+K and viewers have had enough. Because the Busbys sound exactly like Kate, I'm thinking TLC provides scripted comments for these families to justify the filming or the Busbys are just regurgitating Kate's lines.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Didn't we have 2 url's posting here? Not sure which one was which, but I seem to remember there being some confusion a while back.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When Kate's show started reality shows were one of the most popular genres on television. Scripted TV was going through some real growing pains recovering from writers strikes and other union problems and just generally in a slump. Netflix streaming was in its infancy and no one watched TV that way. Everyone had cable. To add to that, multiples were still interesting to the public.

Who knew how much things would change in TV land. Now a new show about multiples has to compete with cable cutters, streaming, and strong scripted TV better than it has ever been. Nowadays people who write or direct blockbuster feature films or even star in them will also do a TV series. The production budgets allocated to TV series are much higher and the production values, writing and acting much stronger. And, reality shows are pretty much gone, with only the few best ones sticking around in prime time and any other lower quality ones buried on little cable stations.

Add to that dozens of other sets of multiples born since and plastered all over the media and the story got real stale. Like I've said before, the Buzzes will NEVER reach Jon and Kate level in their heyday, even if it's an objectively better more interesting show.

That expression right place right time really is true sometimes. Jon and Kate got real lucky and hit it at the right place right time. The Buzzes timing is not so good.

Tucker's Mom said...

Admin. ..you've summed up how I look at the current competition for audiences.
Remember Roots? 110M to 140M. That will never happen again.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jon and Kate Plus 8 was lighting in a bottle. I can see why their heads swelled.

librarylady said...

The Busbys and the Gardners (multiples were also on TLC as part of another show) have been communicating together for some time about their tv process, TLC, etc.The Gardners have been promoting their children heavily through media from early pregnancy, basing it as a "blessing", and do not work but now have an Etsy store. I think they expected more from TLC and media exposure than they have gotten so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if both families had contact with Kate. I think people have had enough of the old news of multiples but TLC won't give it up until the last gasp.

Sara said...

You could see how stressed out they were the night they filmed the night time feeding with her Mother, Mimi. The grandmother broke down the next day. I totally understand sleep deprivation but I already felt fears for this family. It makes me think what would I do in this situation, besides avoid it at all costs? Makes you wonder how much TLC paid for that first year? Medicade covers all premies in the the NICU. He likely had health insurance. I bet a lot of the formula was comped to them and we know a portion of the home was.

I will watch this show, just like I watched Jon and Kate. I hope someone starts a Busby Blog because I feel like TLC has a hit show. And for all purposes, who cares when they are little babies? If they want the intrusion and feel it is worth the money, eh....it's when they start getting bigger is where the real exploitive nature happens, at least for me.

Sara

TLC stinks said...

Admin, I agree totally with your comments regarding reality tv. Jon and Kate hit the jackpot but it's time to move on and I have to wonder if Kate has accepted that. I think not; however, TLC may have come to that conclusion. Although her name was mentioned in their upcoming "I Am" campaign, they have not formally announced her new season. Pretty sure she'll show up on TLC in the next few months, but it's a slow death by a thousand cuts.

Tucker's Mom said...


librarylady said... 105

The Busbys and the Gardners (multiples were also on TLC as part of another show) have been communicating together for some time about their tv process, TLC, etc.The Gardners have been promoting their children heavily through media from early pregnancy, basing it as a "blessing", and do not work but now have an Etsy store. I think they expected more from TLC and media exposure than they have gotten so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if both families had contact with Kate. I thi
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Ha...Kate would tell them to "talk to the hand! !".

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said...


I agree HOM has run its course. You take fertility drugs, you get multiple babies. Yawn. Admittedly babies and toddlers are cute and fun to watch because they are innocent and don't have a clue about what's really happening. But the parents are in the picture and they become greedy and demanding. I don't want to watch some spoiled parents going on and on about how tough life is. Everyone's own life is tough at some point in time. I don't care about those parents who made the HOM and then cry poor me.

I don't know about anyone else, but my time is important to me. And I choose not to waste it on greedy parents with their hands out in the name of God.

TLC stinks said...

library lady, I suspect if those families contacted Kate for advice, I cannot see her helping them in any way. They are her competition. She does not have one generous bone in her body.

TLC stinks said...

I agree. Parents of multiples need to stop crying about how tough it is. It is insincere when you are getting freebies, big bucks from a cable show, and many helpers. The show is scripted BS.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@TLC stinks You know what i find weird.Is that TLC hasn't tweeted or made a post on facebook wishing the gosselin 8 a happy Birthday.They did it with Kate on her birthday.I doubt they were filming them on their birthday,it maybe possible they were with Jon since Kate didn't do her traditional birthday pictures with the 6.Either that or the 6 are learning from the twins and telling Kate NO to it.This is not to say there won't be a birthday episode because i think like someone here said and we'll see if someone twits spotting them at some amusement park or water park.

Sara said...

I do not believe that God wanted people to set up websites to ask for donations from others to help them live the life that they chose. Yes, the bible does tell us to help the poor and those in need, but there is NO precedence for setting up "begging booths" to ask people to give to you

Agreed. I am not sure how I personally feel about fertility treatments. God made people in his image. Some are barren. Some may only ever have one child some none. Isn't this part of His plan? The human body is not designed for a litter of babies. Just because science can make it work, should be doing it? This has been my dilemma all along. This is nature. Maybe this family was meant to adopt or be childless. This seems to me to be messing with God's plan. I know the struggles to have children is very real. I had IUI once, but no hormones to overstimulate ovaries and for the husbands slow moving sperm, the most I allowed was the sperm injected into my uterus. I never tried again after getting pregnant the first time. I guess I felt like God wanted me to have just one and I went with that.

And I don't think this is like other "medical" treatment and science advancements. Not having natural babies isn't life threatening. It is about want. God did not want the Busby's or Kate Gosselin to have multiples. That is my opinion. And I certainly don't think the state of Texas should have to pay these million dollar NICU bills.

Mel said...

I'm thinking TLC provides scripted comments for these families

Absolutely! The Busby's have used nearly identical phrasing to TFW.

Too bad TLC doesn't have any creativity whatsoever and just feeds the HOM families the same tired lines over and over.

Just like they have no creativity with TFW. How many times do they think people want to watch TFW and her children go shopping in high-end boutiques, or on fancy, first-class all the way, posh trips?

Although I gotta say the RV trip was genius on somebody's part. So was the Palin trip. Somebody had clearly had enough of TFW. It was like someone was going out of their way to showcase TFW's worst behaviors.

Sara said...

And it is interesting to see the Gardner's struggling. They WANTED the fame. You can hear it in every poorly made vlog. There is desperation in their voice. You have to SUBSCRIBE to HELP us!!! Go check out our NEW blog post. It HELPS US. The Gardners's are just not camera pretty. Tyson is a slob and the Utah/LDS flavor is just not gonna do it. Tyson, go back to work. Ashley can handle these toddlers now and I seriously doubt handling your ETSY shop is a 40 hour a week job. I hate that the dad says all the girls followers LOVE them and they LOVE them too. You don't LOVE internet strangers. That is simply disingenuous and ridiculous to say. They are complaining about their 4 bedroom house being too small on every vlog. Their grifting just isn't working.

Just Me? said...

Why is jamezvader sometimes it red and then in black? And when you click on the name it takes you to the beginning of this blog. I think there is something fishy about this poster.

Just Me?

TLC stinks said...

Jamezvader, TLC did wish her Happy Mother's Day on Facebook but I got to say, not much is happening with her social media. Looks like TLC is doing that Facebook page as an afterthought.

The RV and Palin fiascos happened just before she was cancelled. ITA it was genius. Too bad they did not keep her cancelled. There must have been something in her contract to do specials which morphed into short seasons.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Malcolm Gladwell one of my favorite writers has a great, and I believe correct, sociological theory about success. While a great deal of it is hard work and practice and ambition, the other major component is right place right time. You have to have both.

He breaks down how if the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs of the world were born just a year or two too early they would have missed out on the computer boom which lent itself to the two of them spending hundreds of hours during their teen years coding. They got so expert at it that by the time they were adults they were poised to take on the computer world and own it. But for being born at that right time, he does not believe they would be who they became. Genius has to be tapped at just the right time.

There could be someone with the mind to cure cancer but if they're living in a third world country and don't get the education we'll never hear from them. But if that school is built just as they are entering first grade, it will be a different story.

Jon and Kate were right place right time (tv in the perfect place to accept and grow a reality show, multiples still interesting) and it will never, ever happen like that again.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I will watch this show, just like I watched Jon and Kate. I hope someone starts a Busby Blog because I feel like TLC has a hit show. And for all purposes, who cares when they are little babies? If they want the intrusion and feel it is worth the money, eh....it's when they start getting bigger is where the real exploitive nature happens, at least for me.

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And that's the thing. It's a repeat of Jon and Kate all over again! The freebies and donations come pouring in. The parents get hooked on the fame and publicity. You feed it; it grows, and by the time the kids are old enough to understand, it's become an addiction for the parents and the children have no say in the matter. Exploitation grows -- it feeds on the past. At what age is "getting bigger?" Two, three, four when they are old enough to know that it's not really Christmas, but a scripted set-up?

I won't watch because I do care. One only has to look at the Gosselins to see what quite possibly is in the future for reality television parents who use their kids. Why contribute to the ratings? It's like giving a stamp of approval of what is to come. History repeats itself.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Localyocul said... 98
I hate asking for help to. I hate even taking help when it's offered


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Same here! My mother had words of wisdom that she left for us when she passed:

1. It doesn't cost anything to be nice.
2. Always be fair in your dealings with people.
3. If you can do it, do it yourself without asking for help. If you can't do it yourself, do it anyway.

Even after having a big family holiday dinner, I refuse clean-up help. I feel guilty accepting it even from family members. They are guests. I do it myself. That's just the way I was brought up. I guess the good old PA Dutch work ethic kicks in no matter what the circumstances, even on Christmas!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Librarylady (#105), I suspect if any of these people did call TFW, all she would hear them saying is "blah blah blah."

But I bet she'd be happy to give advice if TLC offered her a guest appearance with the Busbys.
She could slobber all over the quint girls (no icky boys!), and poke and dab her eyes as she remembers HER babies. And remind America that
she had sextuplets and twins, so she wins!

TLC stinks said...

The show chronicles the babies, from sonograms to their April 8, 2015 births.

Making a TV show about their experience was not an easy decision and the couple considered whether to allow cameras into their Houston-area house.

They had started a blog to keep relatives and friends up to date on the pregnancy. That blog, shared around the world, attracted dozens of production companies.

Adam’s first thought was practical: How would they pay bills on only his salary in industrial sales in the petrochemical industry?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/tlc-new-big-family-outdaughtered-girls-5-article-1.2632040

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TLC must have been the highest bidder.

TLC stinks said...

Nailed it.

"Thanks, TLC, for providing talentless, unskilled Americans a whole new path to effortless fame and fortune—overbreed like crazy and land yourself a TLC reality show."

fidosmommy said...

Absolutely! The Busby's have used nearly identical phrasing to TFW.

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What else could be said? What is a better way to say that we are unabashed takers who don't care a feather
what you think? So quit squawking and write a check, please. God will be so pleased we gave you the opportunity to bring blessings upon yourself as you watch us struggle to raise babies we won't raise by
getting jobs and doing it ourselves.

fade2black said...

TLC stinks@122...TLC must have been the highest bidder.
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Now I am hearing Johnny Cash singing "I sold my soul to the company store...".

Somewhere In Time said...

Do the Busbys have that old Prosperity Gospel thing going on? No thanks, I won't watch...seems just so fake to me. When in doubt, invoke the Almighty and let's see where that gets us.

Somewhere In Time said...

PA Dutch (119)


Well said. My sediments exactly. You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Midnight Madness said...

There must have been something in her contract to do specials which morphed into short seasons. There must have been something in her contract to do specials which morphed into short seasons.

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If it were mandatory, then I could understand that they had to do specials, episodes or whatever you want to call it. However, if it were optional (in the contract) and left to TLC's discretion, why in heaven's name are they snuggling up to her and giving her what she wants?

TLC stinks said...

Midnight, filler after Duggars were cancelled? She's not prime time anymore.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sara said... 113
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It's conflicting, for sure. But it seems that for Evangelicals, once you pass the threshold and are pregnant, they don't give any weight to the parents' responsibility to even put unborn babies in such danger in the first place.
TLC will never do a series on how it can go very wrong, with babies dying in the womb, or soon after. Or, being born with severe disabilities which really leave the parents saddled with challenges on every level.
Or mothers dying.
TLC is showing a soft-focus version of HOM's that I believe misleads couples to thinking that they too will have a brood of bouncing babies, followed by years of volunteers, freebies, vacation, mega-vans and mansions.

Which reminds me, I wonder what Octomom and her 14 kids are up to these days. She was everywhere-and now-nothing.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sara said... 115
And it is interesting to see the Gardner's struggling. They WANTED the fame. You can hear it in every poorly made vlog. There is desperation in their voice.
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From the 2-3 vlogs I perused on Youtube, I agree.
They really want to be the next big reality tv family.
They act and look like they're trying to jar lightning, but it just wont happen.
Eh, find a day job and embrace being mediocre!

Tucker's Mom said...

I won't watch because I do care. One only has to look at the Gosselins to see what quite possibly is in the future for reality television parents who use their kids. Why contribute to the ratings? It's like giving a stamp of approval of what is to come. History repeats itself.
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If you've read TLC's contract with Jon and Kate, you would never think that signing children up for reality tv is innocuous.
When does the threshold of filming awareness get crossed for a child? At what age does a child understand that camera/boom and begin to alter their actions for it? At what age does a child have a right to privacy regarding bodily functions, disrobing, milestones, personal achievements, or just having a bad day?
If I had to err on the side of caution, I believe humans have basic rights from before they are born. In the same vein, I believe babies, toddlers and young children are in no way capable of consenting to reality tv.
On these issues, I am immovable.

Tucker's Mom said...

And remind America that
she had sextuplets and twins, so she wins!
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It's all about winning at any cost for Kate
There's a lot to learn and even gain from losing, if you are only humble enough to embrace it gracefully.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC must have been the highest bidder.
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And a track record of making their talent into household names.
That, TLC has been VERY good at. They spare no expense on branding, training, managing and publicity.
You sign up with TLC, you're going to be on the cover of rag mags, get posts on Radar and get lip service on evening gossiptainment shows.

Tucker's Mom said...

Somewhere In Time said... 126
Do the Busbys have that old Prosperity Gospel thing going on? No thanks, I won't watch...seems just so fake to me. When in doubt, invoke the Almighty and let's see where that gets us.
May 12, 2016 at 10:49 AM
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Well, God chose this for them, so um, yeah ;-)

Janis Joplin – Mercedes Benz Lyrics

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV?

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a night on the town?
I'm counting on you, Lord, please don't let me down.
Prove that you love me and buy the next round
,
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a night on the town?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends,
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

Formerly Duped said...

Seems the Busbys already have more sponsors than the Gosselins. Not just Gymboree, Juicy Juice etc. They have small businesses, new baby products, people handsewing matching outfits, as well as larger companies, and homes and furnishing offering. Probably trips and surgeries and Blayke is not forgotten- did the G twins get much so early in the game? Their deckster is light years ahead of when TFW got hers!

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

If I had to err on the side of caution, I believe humans have basic rights from before they are born. In the same vein, I believe babies, toddlers and young children are in no way capable of consenting to reality tv.
On these issues, I am immovable.

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Absolutely. You don't watch it because they are babies now and it doesn't matter. Babies grow up. Parents become addicted to that lifestyle and are unable to pull the plug. You don't let it happen in the first place. You just don't.

A Ninny Mouse said...

Just the fact that they named their first Blayke makes me doubt them morally.

TLC stinks said...

Wonder how much longer it will be before Adam Busby quits his job?

kris said...

Rainbowsandunicorns #137 said...
Parents become addicted to that lifestyle and are unable to pull the plug. You don't let it happen in the first place. You just don't.
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Exactly! Kate always said 'You can't go back'. Ok, how about you just never go there in the first place, then you don't have to worry that you can't go back.

I went back and looked at their FB page and they are loving.every.bit.of.it! Mama with her arms up in front of the tv that's showing their family, major push to get people to watch, tons of posts, answering everyone's questions. My question is...who's watching the kids while you are doing all this promotion? This is a train-wreak waiting to happen.

Ingrid said...

A tired, recycled, lazy party decor. She's used those chair back covers for years for the tup's birthdays.
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So they are one of very few traditions (lazy, cheap one at that) that Kate has kept. I didn't remember seeing them before.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


They had started a blog to keep relatives and friends up to date on the pregnancy. That blog, shared around the world, attracted dozens of production companies.


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I'm not sure I believe they have had offers from "dozens" of production companies.

I also don't believe filming was a tough decision for them. No it wasn't. It wasn't a tough decision whatsoever.

kris said...

Admin said...That blog, shared around the world, attracted dozens of production companies.

On their FB page they have their PO Box listed next to Contact Us. They are promoting themselves. "Hey look at us!" "Hey, hire us" "Step right up folks and see America's only all-girl quints. And for the right price, I'll see if they'll do tricks for you. Thank you and God Bless". DIS-GUS-TING! :/ :/

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Kris (#140), that's an excellent question -- how much time does this glamorous celebrity lifestyle
take away from the actual RAISING of these sweet children? Who will only be little once?

I'm still amazed that TFW admitted she liked to
be home one week and away one week. And that's when the tups were still pretty small -- not
moody, hormonal teenagers. Maybe Mama Busby
is hoping to hit the road with her camera-ready self, too. I'm sure they've got a book being ghostwritten, or it may even be ready to publish
by now. Who will watch the kids while she's
on a book tour? TLC stinks (#139), I think
that's when Papa Busby will quit his job.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kris (#140), that's an excellent question -- how much time does this glamorous celebrity lifestyle
take away from the actual RAISING of these sweet children? Who will only be little once?


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Yes.

I beleive the amount of time and attention it takes to maintain a celebrity lifestyle well takes away 99% of your time, leaving very little left for the children. Those who aren't okay with that eventually retreat from it.

Tucker's Mom said...

A Ninny Mouse said... 138
Just the fact that they named their first Blayke makes me doubt them morally.
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I have to admit I rolled my eyes at "BlaYke". Really? Not "Blache", or "Blaake", or "Blaiyke"?
Just too precious. Ugh.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

TLC must have been the highest bidder.

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Or, only bidder.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

For Alanis fans, this is absolutely hilarious.

I love celebs who are good sports.

https://www.good.is/articles/isnt-it-ironic-not-really

Sad but true said...

TLC is apparently doing another of those summer block parties, this time in Chicago in July. Kate Gosselin is not on the list of TLC people scheduled to attend. I wonder if that's because they plan to be filming her on some jaunt or because she wasn't invited. No mention, either, of this purported "I Am" campaign. Maybe that's already in the crapper.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-tlc-block-party-soldier-field-20160512-story.html

Over In TFW's County said...

Any word if Kate's POOL is open for the season? I thought it was a tradition for the kids to have a swim party on their birthday. We had a high of 56 degrees and a low of 44 on their 12th. Kate's had those kids in the pool at temps colder than that on previous birthdays.

TLC stinks said...

You know, I have wondered what is going on with the "I Am" campaign. I read an article where the campaign had been pushed back to later this summer. I believe this is when Kate will air. Face it, she's not gone YET.

"Several weeks after this article was published at the end of March, a TLC spokeswoman said the campaign had been pushed back to later in the summer and that new creative was being finalized."

http://adage.com/article/media/tlc-embraces-real-life-messes/303317/


TLC stinks said...

In Touch Weekly is running a blurb about the tups turning 12 "and see what they look like now". In Touch is using the Easter photos. I told you it looked planned.

TLC stinks said...

Kate's had those kids in the pool at temps colder than that on previous birthdays

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Isn't it possible the pool is heated?

Tucker's Mom said...

Isn't it possible the pool is heated?
May 13, 2016 at 4:52 AM
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IIRC, the pool is heated, which makes it just fine to swim.
As long as you wrap up and get warm right out of the water.

May has been pretty miserable this year.

Formerly Duped said...

All her life Blayke will have to tell people how to spell her name. It's really a burden, not cute or unique IMO

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 151
You know, I have wondered what is going on with the "I Am" campaign. I read an article where the campaign had been pushed back to later this summer. I believe this is when Kate will air. Face it, she's not gone YET.

"Several weeks after this article was published at the end of March, a TLC spokeswoman said the campaign had been pushed back to later in the summer and that new creative was being finalized."

http://adage.com/article/media/tlc-embraces-real-life-messes/303317/
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Kate said they've filmed more, so episodes are in the can. It is very interesting that a seasoned and rather huge company like TLC would make such a faux pas of publicly announcing an agenda, and then pulling it to air at an undetermined date.
It smacks of reorganizing and retrenching.
I wonder if some changes are afoot.

It just seems to me to be a rookie move for a channel which has been at the forefront of this genre for so long.

A summertime airing of Kate's new season will bring dismal numbers, since summer is notoriously lousy pickings for viewing tv shows.
I tend to not even bother surfing for shows in the summer. Call me when the Fall lineup starts.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-tlc-block-party-soldier-field-20160512-story.html

Wow, no Kate in the block party lineup. Kate flies anywhere on a dime, so I wonder if she even got an invite.
There are some repeats of who appeared at Penn's Landing.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 155
All her life Blayke will have to tell people how to spell her name. It's really a burden, not cute or unique IMO
May 13, 2016 at 6:51 AM
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It is a burden. I mean, not the worst burden, but a PITA.
My maiden surname had a silent letter and vowels that aren't pronounced per Americans, ie: the "e" is a long "a" sound.
So I vividly remember cringing in school when the teacher would slaughter my name, and I'd try to pipe up in front of the class and tell her/him the correct way to say it.
We used to Americanize our last name a la Ellis Island when giving our surname at restaurants!

Tucker's Mom said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-tlc-block-party-soldier-field-20160512-story.html

Ooh, road trip, ladies! Don your muumuu and crocs and clutch your pearls, because we're going to Chicago to play "ring toss" with the Sister Wives!
Each participant will get as many rings as Kody has wives!!!!

TLC stinks said...

Tucker's Mom, TLC is a mess because they announced Kate's premiere for this season, then pulled it for the Busby's. They have not, however, been one to plan their calendar long term. They only reveal show schedules short term on their web page. Really don't understand that because shuffling around of shows confuses viewers. It's funny when Kate fans tweet her about when her show will air, like Kate would have a clue.

I also think TLC shows an inordinate number of reruns. Not a good thing either.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 152
In Touch Weekly is running a blurb about the tups turning 12 "and see what they look like now". In Touch is using the Easter photos. I told you it looked planned.
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Is it possible that People mag did not remark on the 12th b'day? If they indeed skipped it, that would be the first time in maybe forever that they've done so.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#161), I think People should change their name to People Named Kardashian, because they seem to take up the bulk of their homepage online. And now that Rob is going to be a dad, and Kylie and Tyga just broke up (heaven help
me, I wish I didn't know this stuff), there
won't be room for anyone else!

Formerly Duped said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 162
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lol. I watched that OJ series and ' Robert Kardashian' stated his name was always mangled because people had never heard it or knew how to pronounce it!There was a scene at a news conference based on real events iirc where it was mispronounced.

willowmom (now Piper's mom) said...

FlimsyFlamsy..I agree. I've also thought the E! channel should just call it a day & become the K! network.

Sara said...

I won't watch because I do care. One only has to look at the Gosselins to see what quite possibly is in the future for reality television parents who use their kids. Why contribute to the ratings? It's like giving a stamp of approval of what is to come. History repeats itself

Because I really don't care. It is their family to screw up.

Sara

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I won't watch because I do care. One only has to look at the Gosselins to see what quite possibly is in the future for reality television parents who use their kids. Why contribute to the ratings? It's like giving a stamp of approval of what is to come. History repeats itself

Because I really don't care. It is their family to screw up.


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I compeltely understand that and respect it.

I think though there are a lot of laws out there that support that there is a public interest in protecting children from their screwed up families if it rises to the level of physical or emotional abuse or financial abuse like taking a child's money. I do care, support, and have helped to write legislation that protects children while still preserving families, because I do believe we need those laws. But, I won't watch this family, and I understand it if people just don't want to worry about it. I will remain forever worried though about the exploitation of children on screen. I don't think I'll ever stop worrying.

Midnight Madness said...

Because I really don't care. It is their family to screw up.

Sara

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If someone sees an animal being abused, do they look the other way, saying...well, it's their life, it's none of my business? If someone sees a dog locked in a car on a warm summer day, do we just turn our heads and think that someone else will take care of it?

These are CHILDREN we are talking about, and like admin, I will continue to worry about them, the same way I worry about a dog chained up outside with no food or water. If there were no Paul Petersens in the world fighting for the rights of children who cannot speak for themselves, how much damage (and not necessarily physical) would be done to them without having someone take the reins and say, "wait a minute, this just isn't right" and fight for them in the best and most productive way possible. I care enough that if one can prevent just one child from being scarred emotionally, then by gosh, I certainly wouldn't contribute to the ratings of a show and keep that exploitation going just because it's their life and family to screw up.

But that's just me.

Midnight Madness said...

Formerly Duped said... 155
All her life Blayke will have to tell people how to spell her name. It's really a burden, not cute or unique IMO

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Yes, this is one of my pet peeves. My friend is searching for names for her baby (not yet born) and she asked for suggestions. My only advice was to give the baby a name so you know if it's a boy or a girl; there's only one way to spell it; and you can't get a nickname out of it. Not so easy to do, but she found one that both she and her husband really like, and the child won't grow up having to spell it!

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 160
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Thanks. I never watch TLC but have read that they do lots of "marathon" repeats.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 163
FlimsyFlamsy said... 162
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lol. I watched that OJ series and ' Robert Kardashian' stated his name was always mangled because people had never heard it or knew how to pronounce it!There was a scene at a news conference based on real events iirc where it was mispronounced.
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Did they used to mispronounce it "KarTRASHian" by any chance?!

Tucker's Mom said...

But, I won't watch this family, and I understand it if people just don't want to worry about it. I will remain forever worried though about the exploitation of children on screen. I don't think I'll ever stop worrying.
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Me too. I don't judge if people who post here watch, and never liked the view-shaming. I don't think if even every single poster and lurker here tuned out of TLC shows, that it would make a dent in the ratings.
I won't watch on principle, not because I think me boycotting would make a diff.

Tucker's Mom said...

e way I worry about a dog chained up outside with no food or water. If there were no Paul Petersens in the world fighting for the rights of children who cannot speak for themselves, how much damage (and not necessarily physical) would be done to them without having someone take the reins and say, "wait a minute, this just isn't right" and fight for them in the best and most productive way possible.
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God bless people like Paul Peterson and Tom Murt. Well, all the people who helped pass new legislation in PA, and a special shout out to Kevin and Jodi for staying the course and carrying through with doing their best to help their nieces and nephews.

I think the fact that they have retreated completely from the media and any spotlight speaks to their sincerity and real intent.

Formerly Duped said...

Midnight: I agree with you 100%

Tucker: lol, nope, back then he was just a lawyer and no one in the family was in(famous) Robert Kardashian would be horrified to see what has become of his kids.

Over In TFW's County said...

God bless people like Paul Peterson and Tom Murt. Well, all the people who helped pass new legislation in PA, and a special shout out to Kevin and Jodi for staying the course and carrying through with doing their best to help their nieces and nephews.

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Oh, yes, absolutely. They didn't just sit by and watch, looking the other way because they didn't care if the family was screwed up. They most certainly did what they had to do at the hearings, and because of them and so many others, PA's old antiquated child labor laws hopefully have been changed for the benefit of any other kids in the entertainment industry who might find themselves exploited at the hands of their parents. Kids need someone to look out for them when their greedy, fame addicted parents refuse to do so. The passing of the new laws showed that people can and do make a difference.

Dmasy said...

I just watched a TLC show. First one in a long time. I watched an episode of "My 600 Pound Life" last night. I wanted to see what the format was.

I was returning home from Vegas last Thursday. I landed in Austin. I was slightly delayed on my way to the baggage claim area. There were lights and a camera aimed at a remote elevator. The foot traffic was being directed around the equipment. The elevator opened and a very large young man in a wheel chair was being filmed. There was second camera person beside the overweight man. As airport security tried to push the wheel chair out of the elevator, it got caught in the track and gap in the floor. It took some effort to disengage the over-sized and over-weighted wheel chair. One of the camera men called, "Cut" and they backed the wheel chair up to film another exit scenario.

I asked what was happening and I was told they were filming an episode for "My 600 Pound Life". I was curious so I watched an episode last night.

That would be my "celebrity brush" with TLC.

Over In TFW's County said...

It's a rainy day here and I'm sitting inside, wandering around the internet. I was curious to see what the church ladies in WV were up to, and apparently one of them is the victim of domestic abuse and was physically attacked, left him and moved out, after a trip to the ER. Her friend tweeted to Oprah:

@Oprah hey sis hope yins do n real GOOD. Miss see m ya got a tiny favor my gal pal Pat in a real bad way husban hits her she's start n over

@Oprah need you're help sis need some advice needs some prayer she's leave n him just real bad hope n ya can help is be they're for her

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I don't know what Oprah is supposed to do about it, but she did comment on Oprah and Gayle King:

@Oprah hope you an GALE marry soon LMBO to darn cute gear n up for my gay sons weddin soon makes me smile so darn much

I don't know where these folks come up with this stuff!

Time to clean litter boxes here! It's a nasty job, but somebody's got to do it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Dmasy (#175), wow. Just wow. What you observed,
while I know most of us intellectually understood already, is such a stark reminder of how unreal reality TV is.

Now just think about that circus of crowds and lights and cameras and repetition, and add kids
to the picture. Kids who are not looking to become rich or famous or beloved or whatever
these adult's motives are. Kids who can, and should, have better ways to spend their time.

But for 10 years, the G kids have been subject
to this lifestyle. And just because it's their "normal," doesn't mean it's in any way, shape
or form what's best for them. It's what's best for their mother.

Tucker's Mom said...

Dmasy said... 175
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No, say it ain't so! A reality tv show that does multiple takes when filming?
Nah... that's NEVER happened to the G kids!

Serendipity said...

@Oprah hope you an GALE marry soon LMBO to darn cute gear n up for my gay sons weddin soon makes me smile so darn much

I don't know where these folks come up with this stuff!

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Is this the same one who thinks that Ted Cruise (sic)is a Scientologist and that he killed both JonBenet and President Kennedy and tweeted that a friend (?) says he is bicicsual?

NOIP said...

Over In TFW's County said... 174
" God bless people like Paul Peterson and Tom Murt. Well, all the people who helped pass new legislation in PA, and a special shout out to Kevin and Jodi for staying the course and carrying through with doing their best to help their nieces and nephews."
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And Robert, don't forget Robert Hoffman in all this. In all the Gosselin heroes, Robert took the brunt. Financially and health-wise. He is still suffering with heart problems caused by the stress of TLC and Kate Gosselin's lawyers. He still needs help going forward and he should never be forgotten as a true hero who spoke out on what he saw. Good Bless the Gosselin whistle blowers. Every single one of you. And the one's who knew, who saw, who witnessed the abuse of the tups, and said nothing.. I hope Karma finds you and kicks your collective asses. Damn cowards.

Lynne In RI said...

TFW's County (176): "I don't know what Oprah is supposed to do about it, but she did comment on Oprah and Gayle King:

@Oprah hope you an GALE marry soon LMBO to darn cute gear n up for my gay sons weddin soon makes me smile so darn much

I don't know where these folks come up with this stuff!"

)))))))))))

I don't know if @Oprah reads and responds to all of her tweets, but I can't imagine that she would find that one the least bit amusing!

At least, though, she didn't tweet @Opera!

NYY Julianna said...

I had to smile when I looked at Kate's timeline and saw this tweet:

Take note kateplusmy8 bitter black hearted busybodies!
Fact @Fact
People who feel an urge to correct other people’s grammar are actually suffering from a form of OCD: Grammar Pedantry Syndrome

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Is that medical terminology? It sounds rather weighty! Is it debilitating, and is there a cure or does it subside on its own?

I will be sure to share this with my fellow English professors in language arts. They will be interested in knowing that our affliction has a name! I always suspected that there was something wrong with a few of us.

I will be thinking about my syndrome when I am grading papers this weekend, and wondering if a consultation with a therapist is in order!

Haven't Kate and Milo always bragged about their perfect grammar?

My poor Yankees are having a very disappointing season so far! I'm not sure that I hold out much hope, but I am going to the game tomorrow on the off chance that they can score a win. That is, if I don't suffer an acute GPS (Grammar Pedantry Syndrome) attack.

Tucker's Mom said...

I will be thinking about my syndrome when I am grading papers this weekend, and wondering if a consultation with a therapist is in order!

Haven't Kate and Milo always bragged about their perfect grammar?
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Adding "ish" to the end of adjectives is brilliant.
Shakespearean really.

Tucker's Mom said...

And Robert, don't forget Robert Hoffman in all this. In all the Gosselin heroes, Robert took the brunt. Financially and health-wise. He is still suffering with heart problems caused by the stress of TLC and Kate Gosselin's lawyers.
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Oh my, I didn't realize. I thought he was in the hospital?
I do truly hope he recovers on all levels.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

lol, Julianna. If the syndrome is treatable, will it be covered by your insurance if you stay "in network?" Will you need a referral to a specialist?

Math Girl said...

Because of a chronic cough, I often clear my throat before OI begin speaking. This has led to something my daughter describes as Portentous Pronouncement Syndrome in me and an associated Portentous Pronouncement Paranoia in her.

fidosmommy said...

Yes, Robert has earned my gratitude and respect for putting the important Gosselin story out there despite the threats and the pressure. He did his part to expose it, plus the parts of so many others who knew all was not well at the Estate and kept mum.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


My poor Yankees are having a very disappointing season so far! I'm not sure that I hold out much hope, but I am going to the game tomorrow on the off chance that they can score a win. That is, if I don't suffer an acute GPS (Grammar Pedantry Syndrome) attack.

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Ha! Three strikes, er, attacks and you're out!

Layla said...

Admin (90),

I agree that most of TLC's shows have real story lines, and there is conflict and suspense. K+8 is tiresome. It's a disjointed mishmash of events all thrown together. I think the reason is that Kate is a producer for her show. She has no idea how to create a story line. No idea how to build suspense. All she does is line up a bunch of situations where she can scoop up as many freebies as possible, and call it a story line. It's boring and repetitive. Why do we have to watch her go shopping every episode? When they get ready to go on vacation--they shop for luggage. When the kids are going back to school--it's all shopping. When they are on vacation--they shop for souvenirs. When they filmed (for an upcoming episode, apparently) the big snowfall, there were shopping trips to Costco and Target. I don't think the other shows document constant shopping like K+8 does. It's weird.

I wonder about whether there will be another season, or if maybe there was more filming for a few specials. They sure seem to have run out of ideas.

Jeanne said...

I truly believe that these people want HOMs and want to be on tv. Blogging, videos, gofundme accts, from the start it's a plan. When Kate did it, not everyone and their brother had a youtube channel or gofundme yet. But the technology of IVF, and even monitoring the progress of the use of fertility drugs, has advanced to the point where no one should be having 5 or 6 or 7 babies. Of course none of them have any intention of reducing. They wanted HOMs. It is hypocritical to say God doesn't want them to reduce. You can only know what God wants through intense prayer and study that is impossible while juggling tv offers.

I heard a talk from a woman who had needed to reduce multiples. I don't want to give details but she talked about her medical details and her spiritual process and her marriage. They chose to reduce and had a successful pregnancy. Their children are not yet old enough to understand but eventually they will explain. I do not for a minute that God loves and blesses the Gosselins and Busbys more than this family. I despise that version of Christianity.

fidosmommy said...

There is nothing more to film, I agree. If we go with what we've seen about the Gosselins, their lives are school, bus rides, TV/movies, homework, chores, using their iPhones and taking truly pedestrian shopping jaunts. Kate's life seems even less appealing, which is why they have to dream up story lines.

Like Admin said several days ago, it's like watching stand-alone episodes. Nothing really connects the theme of today's show with the theme of next week's show, except the recurring characters. And since they are stand-alone situations, there is no expectation of continuity in what they tell us. At least that's what we are led to believe. One week Kate is a cleaning fanatic. The next week she's screaming about coupons and cleans nothing. The week after that she's in some store tossing things into her cart willy-nilly, price be damned. When is the last time Kate prepared an entire meal? She used to say that was all she did. But we're not supposed to care about these discrepancies. The cute kids and Kate's rapier wit take all our attention.

Hey, it worked with half hour sitcoms. Why not reality TV families, right?

Sara said...

I compeltely understand that and respect it.

I think though there are a lot of laws out there that support that there is a public interest in protecting children from their screwed up families if it rises to the level of physical or emotional abuse or financial abuse like taking a child's money. I do care, support, and have helped to write legislation that protects children while still preserving families, because I do believe we need those laws. But, I won't watch this family, and I understand it if people just don't want to worry about it. I will remain forever worried though about the exploitation of children on screen. I don't think I'll ever stop worrying.

Well I appreciate your response and the way you approached it.

That said, don't misunderstand and think I am OK with the G kids. I am not. However, I think they would have been hit and belittled with or without TLC. Kate would have probably been a shittier mother. She would have been likely even more miserly with the money they had.

It's the stuff like Collin's issues that hurt my heart but not to the level if it were my own kid or a child I knew personally. I too, wish there were stricter standards for RT. My worry list is full. The Busby's may well be different in the fact that on the surface you see more love already. Same with the boring Gardner's, and remember the Jones quints?? They did a little update when they turned 5 and they are not like Jon and Kate. I do expect to see a few or several seasons of the Busby's though. They are photogenic, family roles and cute babies. But at the end of the day I am not the kind of person who will boycott TLC or lie about watching it, and even stating I enjoy it.

Sara

Formerly Duped said...

I don't remember what happened with the Jones' quints show. I do recall I disliked the way the father bragged so much. I know that mom got her tummy tuck and they got a new house and many freebies.They also had an older singleton daughter named Eliot. I don't recall the specifics since I didn't watch, but checked out their website.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jeanne (#190), thanks for your comment about the woman who chose to reduce. I can't imagine that decision isn't a heartbreaking one. And I agree that there's something distasteful about parents who didn't chose to reduce flaunting it as a symbol of faith, as the subtext seems to be
that those who chose to reduce are somehow
less faithful.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't imagine that decision isn't a heartbreaking one. And I agree that there's something distasteful about parents who didn't chose to reduce flaunting it as a symbol of faith, as the subtext seems to be
that those who chose to reduce are somehow
less faithful.


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I couldn't agree more.

It must be an absolutely horrific decision to reduce, and the idea that a family like this simply got LUCKY when they didn't reduce, but flaunts it as if they beat the odds because their faith is more precious than most, is really gross not to mention insensitive.

If I were in their shoes I would seriously consider reducing if my medical team thought it was the best option for healthy babies, but the last thing I need is to hear about how other families beat the staggering odds. Would you rather reduce and have two healthy babies, or not reduce and have five dead ones? The idea they would make anyone feel badly about choosing this option over a high risk of death is abhorrent.

Tucker's Mom said...

However, I think they would have been hit and belittled with or without TLC. Kate would have probably been a shittier mother. She would have been likely even more miserly with the money they had.
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You got that right about the physical abuse! I do wonder, maybe, just maybe, she and Jon would still be married and the kids would have Jon in their lives full time.
I think that collateral damage has been significant.

Tucker's Mom said...

I agree that there is on some level, a tacit indictment of parents who decide to reduce. In reality, their decision takes more courage because they made the sacrifice to steer the pregnancy towards the best possible outcome, with more than luck and miracles on their side.
I think many mothers of HOM's which are born with severe disabilities (or even miscarry) will wonder why God didn't answer her prayers. It's hubris at its finest to say that God just bestowed a healthy brood of HOMs AND money and fame because he chose YOU.
What makes Kate and the Buzzes more deserving in God's eyes?
To me, it implies that others who are not as fortunate, or who have suffered greatly, are not the "chosen ones".
My fear-and I think it's based in reality-is that parents will throw down the fertility gauntlet and make irrational decisions based on heavily edited and biased HOM shows which show good to great outcomes, along with money, gifts, travel, homes, vehicles and of course, fame.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



If I were in their shoes I would seriously consider reducing if my medical team thought it was the best option for healthy babies, but the last thing I need is to hear about how other families beat the staggering odds.
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Yes, far better to hear that other families lost their babies to make YOUR decision easier. It's all about "me, me, me" with you.

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Um, no, parents faced with HOM should hear all the FACTS and statistics and not be influenced by one very lucky family on television. Hint, the facts are it's not pray hard enough and everything will be fine, and it's insulting to suggest otherwise, as it implies other peoples' faith is not strong enough. The absurd prosperity gospel at its very finest.

I have no idea why that is a "me, me, me" thing to you.

Tucker's Mom said...

Yes, far better to hear that other families lost their babies to make YOUR decision easier. It's all about "me, me, me" with you.

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Ah, more straw. Must have a barn full of it.
Good thing Admin's got a book of endless matches ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

"Jon and Kate Gosselin, who already had twins, had wanted just one more baby, but IUI resulted in the sextuplets made famous on the TLC program “Jon & Kate Plus 8.” The same thing happened to Jenny and Bryan Masche, stars of “Raising Sextuplets,” the TV program on WE, the Women’s Entertainment network....
...Mrs. Masche became seriously ill from acute heart failure brought on by her pregnancy, but she has recovered. The Gosselins have separated under the stress of raising multiples. But the Masche and the Gosselin sextuplets are the success stories. They are healthy.

Women who have gone through large multiple pregnancies with poorer results say the shows give viewers a misleading picture by failing to present the wreckage left behind in many cases — babies who are stillborn, spend months in the hospital undergoing painful procedures that require morphine or suffer from long-term disabilities."


Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/health/12fertility.html?_r=0

Link

We're not just making this stuff up, folks.

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