Tuesday, February 17, 2015

Recap: Celebrity Apprentice Episode Five: The Sandra/Slither Effect, and Kate, you're fired!

Last time on Celebrity Apprentice, Kate stuffed her face, and it was all Vivica's fault that they lost, says Doofus. But due to some other circumstance, Shawn was fired. On the final task of the night, Kate's team put together a bizarre video starring Geraldo as Mr. Peanut and Kate as a 1950's housewife with a 1940's haircut that took all day and pretty much ruined Lorenzo's shooting schedule, and they lost to Leeza's infinitely better idea of Brandi and Kenya having a sexy cat fight. Due to some other circumstance, Lorenzo was fired.

Sig is lamenting to Kate they're really screwed now. Lorenzo was fired, and he was their strongest leader. He thinks they're up a shit creek. Kate's all nodding and giving him puppy dog eyes of sympathy. Ha, as if! We all know she's tickled pink she is still alive in this game and that somebody else, anybody but her, was fired.

Kate confronts Vivica about her calling her out in the boardroom last week, unwilling to believe that Vivica didn't blame the PM Lorenzo for their failings, as the video idea was all his. First of all I seem to remember the idea was mostly Geraldo's. You mean the same idea you fully supported, were so excited about, and then nearly sabotaged by sitting in hair and makeup so long Lorenzo didn't have time to get all the shots he needed to make it work? Really, Vivica?! Kate demands.

I like how Vivica just holds her own here and bobbles her head just like Kate. Yep, really, Kate. Really. Ha!

Kate thinks she's doing pretty good on this show. Haha, how typical of a narcissist. A narcissist will never see what everyone else sees. She has been on the losing team more often than not, and often times she played a major role in why the team failed. Time and time again she has supported ideas that crashed and burned, and time and time again she has been against ideas that were a grand success. Her PMs have chosen her to come back to every single boardroom in which her team lost except Lorenzo's, but that was because he volunteered himself. The one time she was PM she only won because Leeza and Brandi took over her duties and the other team was led by a total idiot Jonas brother too obsessed with Geraldo to focus on being a good leader. Half the contestants hate her. She mostly eats and texts and checks out a few hours into each task. She is still here only by dumb luck, because of other better contestants' circumstances completely out of her control, and possible manipulation by the producers. But in her mind she's awesome. Heh.

Geraldo is still in his Mr. Peanut costume. He's quite the eccentric.

Their task this week will be to host a guided boat tour around the harbor with a tourism boat company Circle Line.

Oh, I need to shamelessly plug The Apprentice: UK here. It's a much better more interesting version of this show, as British versions tend to be. It has like a gazillion seasons, and they're almost all on Youtube. Their version of Trump, Sir Alan Sugar, is a more sophisticated, sharp character with a compelling backstory about growing up working class in east London and selling products out of the back of his van. He is now worth 1.5 billion. Anyway, on the first season for their final task they had to do something really similar to this task only on the Thames, and it was a really fun episode. Check it out.

Crab fisherman Sig thinks his timing is perfect. He is primed to step up as project manager this week and the task is a boat ride. The kind of ironic thing about this though is his background probably will be of no help to him on this task. This task isn't really about the boat. It's not about who can captain a boat the best or who can fish the best. Of course he would win those tasks. Rather, this task is about who can throw a good party, it is irrelevant that party will be on a boat. And for that, Brandi is perfect, and sure enough, she steps up. In terms of experience with parties, she blows Sig out of the water, so to speak.

They head to their war rooms, which this time around are right on their respective boats, which are quite rocky today. Geraldo actually knows quite a bit about the company Circle Line, he could rattle off their whole history. I don't think he's exaggerating about that, and that doesn't surprise me. Although he's obnoxious and kind of crazy, I think there's no doubt he is of a higher intelligence than most. People as smart as him often spend large chunks of their lives consuming information, whether reading, watching or listening. And then they retain and file this information away. They remember it, and are able to pull it out at a drop of a hat. Somewhere along the way he read about Circle Line, maybe in the newspaper or a local magainze or whatever, and his brain filed the information away to be unearthed years later on this task. Going into this I assumed Geraldo was smart and savvy like most journalists who have made it, but I did not expect him to be this brilliant. He is a beautiful, nutty mind who wears top hats even hours after the task is over.

Sig seems to realize in short order this task actually it not up his alley at all. He doesn't know a thing about throwing parties. Uh-oh, I figured as much.

Geraldo is throwing out a host of ideas only history nerds would appreciate, like Revolutionary War or Ellis island, with actual reenactors, or 9-11. I mean, that could work for school groups, but this is supposed to be a party. Kind of hard to be comfortable throwing back drinks at a party when the theme is an overview of some of our history's bloodiest, darkest moments.

While I would like Geraldo's ideas because I'm an American history freak, Vivica and Kate are sort of giving each other "oh, helllll no" looks. Ha-ha!

Kate, or the earpiece in her ear, calmly and diplomatically explains to Geraldo that they don't need to do the history, as the boat line already covers the history. If they want to get high ratings on this task, their focus needs to be on the fun, the entertainment. She says this all quite slow as if someone were in fact saying this to her in her ear, haha. She's right, the entertainment is key. Good point, Steve. Geraldo finally agrees to drop that dumb idea, and Kate's ego explodes like a musket going off.

Brandi puts Ian on the boat version of running errands off site at various stores just so I can get you out of my hair, and makes him her accountant. Ian looks like he'd rather have a shark give him a bikini wax than be Brandi's accountant, but he has no choice but to go along with it. Most of Brandi's team likes Mardi Gras but Brandi is really unsure of that idea since it doesn't have anything to do with NYC. I think that's a fair point, but for now, she reluctantly goes along with it.

Kenya is trying, getting excited about Brandi's charity and really volunteering a lot of ideas. Brandi doesn't buy it though, she thinks Kenya would like nothing more than to take her down. That's probably true, but I think Kenya also wants to be on the winning team even if Brandi wins too. Kenya doesn't hate her so much that she will allow herself to lose to try to get Brandi fired, that's silly.

Over on Kate's team, they've settled on a Love Boat theme with a meet-and-greet thing with Sig. The Sexiest Catch, the team comes up with. That's not bad. Sig is worried this sounds too much like a porno. Lol.

The men think as long as they're going this route they should call in the Hooters girls. This is starting to sound more like Spring Break than Viking river cruise. Neither Vivica nor Kate think this is a great idea, but they sort of just let it happen. I can't stand when people on this show don't have the guts to put up a big fight about bad ideas on the task, but then save it if they need to throw someone under the bus later in the boardroom. It's a passive aggressive, cowardly way to play the game and Kate does it all the time. Kate has a good point in that the people stepping on this boat could be a bunch of married couples, and they're probably not going to appreciate a bunch of Hooters girls there. True, I wouldn't.

Geraldo also has a good point, "all in." It's true, if you're going to go sexy, go sexy. Don't limp in, pardon the pun. Whatever theme they choose they've got to be completely behind it. It's not going to work to go with a theme and then be so uncomfortable and skeptical of it they do not take it to its climax. If they're not willing to go all the way with the Hooters girls and everything, pardon the puns again, then get rid of this theme and start over. Fair enough.

At Brandi's team, Brandi and Johnny are still skeptical about Mardi Gras. Brandi decides you know what, f-it, Mardi Gras is scrapped. "Girls," she tells the team, and Ian looks up. Haha, nice touch, editors. They must have buckets of fun in their editing bays. Brandi just can't get past Mardi Gras in New York City, it makes no sense to her, and says they're changing the whole theme. It's a big risk to change their theme this late in the task, but if the theme is terrible, Brandi had to do it. A lesser project manager wouldn't have the guts to listen to their nagging gut feeling and pull the rug out like this, so kudos to her. I think Brandi is right, the Trumps likely would have been confused by Mardi Gras and it could have sunk them, so to speak.

I like Vivica, she has a sense of humor about herself. She has posed herself all sexily on the starboard side, looking out at the water as she explains in a husky voice that their furniture has been delivered and they're setting up the food. Lol, so random! I can't picture Kate being this silly and willing to let her guard down, she doesn't have the self-esteem for it.

Wow, Brandi scrapped their theme without a new one lined up? I didn't know that. Eek. They are back to brainstorming, and finally settle on Big Apple Bonanza. I don't quite know what that means. Will Little Joe be there? But I guess it sounds fun enough.


I guess Brandi thinks bonanza just means a fun party. I think she's right that their primary focus needs to be on just throwing a great party. A vague theme is better than something nonsensical. Brandi decides to "feed into" Kenya's narcissism and let her perform her song. Kenya has a song? Is it as good as this one from the Countess? It has over 7,000 thumbs downs on Youtube, lol.


You might be too old to be starring in your own music video when the next thing on your agenda for the day is to hire your kid an SAT tutor.

Poor Brandi is about to puke from being on this boat so long, ugh, that would be awful to have to work on a rocking boat all day.

It's the day of the parties, and Sig is still worried maybe the people stepping onto this boat won't like Hooters. Do they not know much about their demographic, and why didn't they ask? Kate's right, what if it's a bunch of couples? Some might be cool with it but I venture to guess most women do not want to go with their husbands to a Hooters party.

The bartenders were late so Sig ends up spending a lot of time lugging waters and ice and so on back and forth back and forth, getting angrier as the minutes pass. He finally gets so stressed he throws a hissy fit and bangs his fist on the bar. Well, that was a little scary.

Kate and Geraldo, to their credit, calmly try to bring him back down to earth and right the ship. Kate even pulls out this huge tote bag seemingly out of nowhere like she is Mary Poppins


and suggests that Sig use the big bag to transport a lot of things at once so he won't have to make so many trips. Well, she was trying to be helpful. Good for her. When Kate stays calm, feels like working, and is motivated and focused, she's not bad. She's not the best contestant here by any means, she's simply not bright enough to play in the big leagues like Leeza, Brandi, Geraldo or Vivica, but she's somewhat better than a dud like Terrel or Shawn. I think that's what makes her laziness and ineptness all the more frustrating, because she is capable of being a decent second-string team member if she applies herself. It just seems to be so hard to get her to this head space, and I don't know why that is. Maybe she's just flighty and easily bored. She can focus and work for a couple hours and she does all right, then she's off in la-la land again. That's not going to cut it.

Kate says she's worried if Sig's snapping now he could snap again at any time on this task, and where will that leave them? Sig has calmed down a bit and says wait a minute, we're supposed to be happy. Kate is doing decoupage or something or other, at least she's not stuffing her face or playing on her phone, and says you're the only one who's not happy. There is one other positive thing I will say about Kate, and that is that she never really lost it and snapped. I would not be surprised if she had. She kept it together. There were some tears, a lot of whining, and a lot of ineptness and blame shifting. But she never lost her temper like Sig has and several other contestants before him, thus far anyway. In fact she often proved to be a calming force, which means either she has really good control over her reactions to a bad situation, or is just too clueless to realize it's time to panic.

"Make me happy!" Sig tells Kate. Lol, ew. And Kate sort of just shakes her head. Heh, funny.

Because of the tight editing, we see none of the prep on Brandi's ship and cut straight to her team welcoming guests. Even though the vast majority of reality shows should be just one hour, I really, really hate the one-hour edits on this show. It doesn't work, but we've talked that to death. Shit, there's kids among Brandi's guests, some of the Trump grandkids. Does Sig's team know there could be kids along? Oops!

Brandi's cruise is a hodgepodge of boy bands, appletinis, a magician. I don't see Little Joe anywhere, but with this random mix he would fit right in. Leeza does a phenomenal job giving commentary on the various landmarks. She keeps it fun, light, and short. I didn't realize they would have to do this part too, I thought they were just supposed to be in charge of the party. Probably I'm confused because there was no time to explain that in the tight edit.

"It's like a booze cruise with knowledge," Brandi quips. Ha, that's hysterical, Brandi. You won the episode title, again.

On Kate's team, the Hooters girls are here and serving delicious bar food, and they're handing out crabs too. The edible kind, I mean. The guests here, I don't know, they look like a fair amount of computer programmers and school teachers. It's sunny but don't let a bright sunny winter day in New York fool you. It's still chilly out so most people are bundled up, and it's the middle of the day. I don't know if this sexy thing works at all. Nobody wants to be sexy when it's lunch time and 42 degrees, sunny or not.

Geraldo is going on and on about Ellis island, pontificating about oppression and Italians and Jews. Unlike Leeza, who just kept it all low key, he is like a college professor only not really actually giving you anything of substance. It was "overboard" says, Sig. He's right, everyone is bored and looks like they'd prefer to jump ship.

"Screw the terrorists, we've won!" Geraldo blurts out as he introduces the new World Trade Center. If you could visualize the hashtag awkward on real people's faces, that's what it would look like. ####AWKWARD. Everyone just sort of stands there, not sure if it's okay to drink to that, grab another crab leg, or what you do. Kate does another one of her infamous over the top "OMG!" faces. Lol.

By the way, do you know the producers hate her? They made this entire web site just for her and her notorious faces. Hehe, they be so funny.

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Back to Brandi's party, everyone is dancing, drinking, I-an does a little breakdancing. Leeza gives all the credit to this success to Brandi, because Leeza is classy and gives credit where credit is due. Kenya performs her "song." Wait, but she's not singing. She's talking like Professor Higgins "talked" all his songs in My Fair Lady. Lol, just like the Countess "talked" her song too! What's with the Housewives and talking out a song?

Right in the middle of it Brandi walks right through the stage area with a tray of drinks. She waves, lol, that's funny, she knows darn well what she's doing. I'm embarrassed for Kenya, but with enough booze in them by now some of the crowd seems to mildly enjoy it. Except one of the Trump grandkids, who looks about five and seems both confused and horrified as Kenya at one point is sort of grinding on the floor, lol. Brandi tries to distract from this misstep and gets a conga line going, which is usually a go-to party saver. I don't know if anyone watched the Grammys, but it's always a good show and Beyonce was there of course, and I think Kenya is pulling a Single White Female on her, adopting her hairstyle, dress, career and even mannerisms. Rather creepy.

Geraldo is doing some sort of odd Q and A with the Hooters girls. Who cares, nobody goes to Hooters to actually get to know them, if you want to get to know a woman you don't buy chicken wings from her. Even Kate thinks it's time to take the microphone. Sig wanted to say a few things himself but Geraldo is too much of a force to interrupt. The thing about these sort of booze cruises too is that you really shouldn't be talking the entire time or it starts to feel like a lecture. You have to take breaks and give people time to eat, drink and talk among themselves. In the edit I've seen it's been a nearly constant droning on throughout the cruise and it's getting annoying. I think Geraldo thinks if he's not talking he's not helping anything, and that's just not the case. Sig says at the end of the day he really thinks Geraldo is great so who is he to say anything.

Sig arranged for the Coast Guard to show up and drive by, which was a really nice touch especially since that's his charity.  The guests love it. Like almost all the other celebs here except Kate, Sig talks about his charity, the Coast Guard, with passion and sincerity. He tears up as he says he has friends whom the coast guard has saved. Has Kate actually ever visited her charity yet or is that still on her to do list?

Sig thinks they knocked it out of the park. Or ocean, Captain! If people give them bad reviews on their feedback cards fine, says Sig, I have their addresses and I can go punch their teeth out. Oh, my, why do I feel like he's only half kidding? Lol.

Blue-hour timelapses, which must mean it's boardroom time, and my assessment is pretty straightforward. It's obvious Kate's team lost, but Sig really should be fired. Their theme was uncomfortable and missed the mark, and not only was Geraldo's commentary awkward and far too long, but Sig didn't stop him even when everyone knew it was getting bad. Kate and Vivica are responsible for not being more assertive about changing their bad theme, but at the end of the day the blame rests on the PM. Both the women worked and did what they were told, and Kate even tried to help calm Sig down. The only black mark Brandi's team had was Kenya's stupid talking-song, but that's not enough to sink them. And, Brandi saved that anyway with her conga line, so they won it. Once again, due to some other circumstance, Kate won't be fired.

Sig says he thinks they won. After all they brought in the Hooters girls. Were they beautiful or "just okay?" Trump asks, genuinely curious. Baw-haha! Well, there's no question he's a man. That is such a man thing to ask. As a side note, Kate looks particularly old today. Could be the makeup or the lighting. I would honestly guess she is at least 47, not a young woman still in her 30's. Tanning, surgeries and other behaviors will do that.

Kate's reservation about the Hooters girls was the demographic. Again, why didn't they know what their demographic was in the first place before deciding on the theme? Isn't that critical to deciding what to do? Heck, what if it were a bunch of kindergartners, then Brandi's theme doesn't make sense either. I don't understand why nobody seemed to know a thing about their guests. That's the first thing you should find out.

Geraldo uses big words like sophomoric, words some of the other celebs don't understand, when he says he and Sig work well together. He talks like this not because he's trying to impress like Kate would, but because that's just how he talks.

Johnny and Leeza were Brandi's best players? I get Leeza, but Johnny? I don't know if Johnny is boring or what but we barely ever see him on these tasks.

The guests liked Brandi's festive party, and especially liked Leeza commentary. The theme confused them. I know, me too, I kept looking for Little Joe myself. Kenya was polarizing, a lot of them, I'm guessing the sober ones, said her song/dance wasn't classy. Ha-ha, Vivica looks so smug about that. She totally purses her lips in an "I told you so" face. I forgot if she hates Kenya, what happened in the past on these silly reality shows sometimes sticks to my brain for no more than a couple weeks. I can more or less keep track of who hates Kate, but the other drama going on escapes me. Though I think Vivica doesn't like Kenya, if I recall.

As for Sig's team they loved Vivica, they liked the food and the atmosphere actually. But people couldn't stand Geraldo's blathering. Trump interrupts to say he simply cannot believe this. Lol, he really loves Geraldo for some odd reason. Females thought this was geared toward the men and they got left out. Good point.

The guests gave an overwhelming win to Brandi, which was obvious. Yikes, I hope nobody loses their teeth over this, especially not any of those nice school teachers aboard. Brandi is a mature winner who calmly says that's great, she's happy, and she will be giving her money to Make A Wish. She says she feels bad for the Coast Guard though and wishes they could get some of the spoils. Trump gives them twenty-five grand. All class, Brandi. All...class. Brandi has her issues and has a lot of conflict with other women on her Real Housewife show, but I am wholly convinced she is a bright, gracious, good woman who has unresolved issues she simply needs more therapy for. She is deep down not a bad person like, say, Doofus is.

There's only six minutes left in this episode, sounds like this will be a quick and dirty firing.

Kate of course says she and her boyfriend Geraldo shouldn't be fired. She very, very reluctantly admits Vivica shouldn't be fired. Steve is right in the strategy he told her, always blame the PM. It's tried and true, and statistics show they are always more likely to be fired. Of course they won't always be fired, but you have to play the percentages. Don't be stupid and go after people you can't stand like Vivica even though every bone in your grudge-filled body wants to. It's far too risky for somebody as dumb as Doofus here to try to go after somebody less obvious. So she's right, it has to be Sig.

Geraldo has a hard time blaming anyone because he likes these people. I believe that. None of these people give him a hard time, they allow him to be his crazy self and even encourage it, and he thrives in that environment. Trump asks Geraldo if he honestly is going to be friends with any of these people after the show, then Trump kind of waves his hand with a laugh and is like get real, we're too busy to maintain friendships like this, it's on to the next thing for us! Lol. From what I've heard and witnessed that's very, very true. Unless a celeb truly forms an untenable blood brother bond with someone on the set, it's unlikely they will have the time or energy to send out more than a text message or two post project. Sometimes such an existence seems rather lonely to me, since I value true friendships made in an employment capacity just as much as any other, and if I'm going to really bond with someone I'm not going to do it without the intent of maintaining what we built post-project. The fact that Leeza showed up to a party of Brandi's in L.A. months later speaks volumes about just how close those two women became, since I really don't think that's all that common in a world in which a celeb might end up working with thousands of people on hundreds of projects before your work is done on this earth.

I don't know if Geraldo's wife would be okay with a post-show friendship, Kate says. Lol, what? Oh, doofus, you flatter yourself. Trump accuses her of having a dirty mind, hehe. No, just an inflated ego. Even Trump Jr. is laughing saying Dad you were the one going there! I like the Trumps, I think there are times like this they are just a normal family.

Vivica too admits that the fault is with Sig. Leeza is smart and says once they are down to three people Trump is going to switch up the teams again, she sees it coming. They all seem to think that sucks, since everyone on Brandi's team works so well together. They've won three in a row after all.

I think some of the nautical puns are unintentional, but they're funny, as Trump says they're all in the same boat. Lol. There are an incredible amount of nautical puns out there I've realized in just writing this re-cap. I needed at least one recap where I could giggle like a schoolgirl over something stupid the whole time like nautical puns, it's that kind of day.

Sig throws out the only defense he can, that if the ladies had a problem with any of this they certainly didn't speak up, at least not very loudly. Very true, and I find that to be shitty. It's not going to get him off the hook (nautical pun!), but it's what he should point out if he has any respect for himself.

Trump wants to know if it's true they just let this bad idea happen and didn't say anything. Kate says, well, we at least made a face over the Hooters girls, so. Lol. Kate is blathering on, I think she's trying to get to the fact that in light of all the other bad ideas that they spent the whole time shooting down (oh yeah, I forgot about the 9-11 reenactors), this idea wasn't as bad as any of those and at least we got rid of the really bad ideas. Well, you still traded one bad idea for another. Trump has no patience to give her time to get to her point and cuts her off, lol. I don't think Trump has ever once allowed Kate to get to her point, he really can't stand a blatherer. Also I think Trump knows there's no way he could pin this on one person not speaking up enough about a bad idea (even though she's done it a dozen times before) when none of them spoke up, and he especially can't fire that person or persons over the people championing the idea. That wouldn't really be fair, though it kills me to say it. If he were going to do that he would have to fire the whole team, that's the only way it's fair. Trump quickly gets to the point. He really likes Sig but let's face it, he's fired.

Everyone seems very sad to see Sig go. Vivica looks tearful. Kate the sociopath realizes everyone else is sad so she acts sad too. Geraldo said he's going to give Sig's charity $40,000. Sig seems more embarrassed than grateful about it. That's nice of Geraldo I guess, though it's treading a little bit into making this all about Geraldo, and one-ups Trump. Maybe he should do that quietly, after the show, and I'd believe it.

The Trumps seem to really respect Sig and his charity and look disappointed to see him go, too.

Sig doesn't look like he's going to knock anyone's teeth out, he says the experience was humbling and that the gamble he took didn't work out. Overall, he seems like a good guy who works hard but has a few anger management issues.

The other team still can't believe the sucky team has lost three times. What's the common denominator there? Ian asks.

Raising my hand! I know, I know. Pick me, I-an! Kate!

No, Geraldo, they say. Geraldo??? I mean, I suppose, but, but, what about his minion Doofus?

Ian and Johnny still have a lot of pent up aggression toward Geraldo. I swear they sound just like us talking about Kate, only they're talking about Geraldo. Leeza is just amazed he is still here, he is like teflon. He sucks at everything, but she attributes his staying power to strategy.

And the stars align for Kate again. Here's the thing, she's terrible at this game. She's not creative, she can be lazy, she's no leader, and is constantly on the losing team. Of everyone left she is without a shadow of a doubt the worst player. But Geraldo is more front and center, vocal, smarter, bigger, has more donors, and has amassed more enemies. Thus Kate and her ineptness have flown under the radar. Most of the folks who used to pick on Kate like Brandi and Kenya don't really care anymore because they're not on her team (and thus, it's actually a good thing she stay around and screw up tasks as long as she's on the other team) and they know she's expendable, you know, whenever. People lost interest in getting rid of Kate, and she's stayed as a result.

Also, Geraldo is a bigger threat to these stronger players, so they're all focused on him right now. You have to be careful with that. On similar reality shows like Survivor, a mediocre, seemingly expendable whenever you need to contestant, can slither through and win, because there was always somebody else that really needed to go first. Sandra is a prime example, for Survivor fans. In 2003 a secretary named Sandra played season seven of Survivor. For six seasons, the six previous winners had always played very strategic, smart games, which is how they won. But Sandra was different than those other people. She was not particularly talented, bright or special or any kind of stand out, and she was about as athletic and socially adept as a slug, but there was always somebody else to vote off.


Other contestants were dumbfounded that somebody with no social game, strategy, and no physical ability won. What can I say, they kept her on the back burner way too long and have nobody but themselves to blame. Then suddenly the end arrived and they forgot to vote Sandra out! #Dolts. Dumb luck worked out for Sandra, as well as other contestants both underestimating her and saving the non-threat for later until later turned out to be the winner's circle. She won her season without a single vote ever cast against her, and then she came back and played another season and won that too. Kate made it much further than she should due to this very same phenomenon, I'll call it the Sandra Effect. Or, the Slither Effect. She is this show's Sandra. Moral of the story, don't get distracted by that loud-talking Geraldo over there for the love of all humanity, Leeza. Bottom line, Kate is long past due, well-done, goose is cooked. She needs to go and stat or they're going to have a big problem on their hands in that this doofus might actually be a finalist in this thing. Get it together, people! I like some well done reality shows for the reasons above, talking through strategies and analyzing why and how people are where they are is fun. It's a guilty pleasure.

Kate doesn't know why on earth they keep losing. Of course she doesn't, she's a narcissist. Something has got to change! she insists. After awhile this gets so predictable; I know with that kind of ego, she imagines herself the white knight who saves her team from sure destruction by stepping up as PM on the next task. Knowing the outcome ahead of time, my stomach hurts from laughing already. So let's do it!

Did Kate get a haircut in the 20 seconds it took to get these people up on some windy roof to hear about their next task? Her hair is like four inches shorter and stick straight.  Trump looks about the same shade as a tangerine at the moment, his hair about halfway to the color of straw into gold. He announces that the gale force winds prove he does not wear a wig, lol. As predicted, he switches up the teams, with Kenya going over to Kate's team. Hallelujah amen! Brandi and I shout at the same time.

They are going to make a "themed environment" whatever that is, about Trump's golf thing he has down in Miami. As you can tell, I really don't care about or understand golf. And, just as predicted, Kate the knight has stepped up to "save" her team, volunteering as PM again. She is even wearing white. She's nuts, this is a death sentence before it even started. She's already been PM before, she's checked that box. Her strategy now needs to be to avoid PM at all costs no matter what until the finals. The Sandra Effect does not work if Sandra volunteers herself to be voted off. Doofus.

Ian is going to be PM for the other team. Oh, Kate's toast.

"I'm free! Free of the monster" Kenya exclaims as she heads into the war room. Heh, that's mean but kinda funny at the same time in how over the top it is. Brand-ya or Ken-di, can't decide which one I like better to call the two of them, but they're both so immature about this.

Oh, Geraldo has been golfing there. Well, hell, he should have been PM then. Does anyone else on this team even play golf much less have been to this course in Miami? We know Kate doesn't, remember Hank having to teach her on Wife Swap? She should have pushed this off on Geraldo, said I know you've done your share as PM but nobody here knows and understands golf and golfers like you do. Flatter him, then pass the buck.

Ha-ha. Sasquatch wants to do a Sasquatch theme, that couldn't be more fitting. Kenya's all like, Kate doesn't really understand what luxury really is. Yes! Kate's a poser who thinks eating sushi and fluttering off to NYC on the weekends racking up $300 room service bills makes her just like a Dupont, minus that murder thing. Even though I don't like Kenya, I find it incredible refreshing and validating to see somebody who sees through Kate in exactly the same way the rest of us have. I guess because a lot of the sheeple keep saying we don't really "know" Kate so we can't make that judgment, and yet here is someone who does know Kate, did spend a lot of time with her in person and worked with her, and she's saying the same thing. Now what's their excuse?

Kate sends Kenya and Vivica off shopping for props. Oh, no, don't send your strongest player (Vivica) off to do that! Kenya knows what being sent off to do props means for her standing, and really doesn't want to go, but Kate makes her. Kate makes a good point I have to give her, such that if Kenya didn't want to go shopping Kenya could have volunteered for PM and called the shots herself. Hey, you get that one, Schmoops. What else ya got up there in that hallow head?

It's Braveheart redux as Ian goes into his passion for his obscure charity again. You know the one for skin diseases he feels a connection to because he loves slathering on lotion and feeling supple and feels for those who don't. I think people who talk about themselves in the third person are usually crazy. He feels if he can pull this off I-an will be one seat closer to God. He actually says this. Come on, he's not serious. Or is he? His eye twitches, which I think means he's just shitting around. I think. Oh well, whether this is real or fake he's so wonderfully nuts either way.

I'm not quite sure where Ian's team is going with all their ideas but Ian says something hysterical in that if he is going to throw someone under the bus it shouldn't be a surprise to them because hey, they got the bus schedule! Ha.

I-an is so deeply impressed by how creative he is. His gifts are so incredible he humbles himself. What luck that Kate gets herself on a season so inundated with narcissists just as big or bigger than her that she looks about as harmless as a Cabbage Patch doll. Of course.

Ian talks about getting a hole to stick a pole in, and Brandi being Brandi just can't help herself and bursts into giggles. Even Leeza starts cracking up. Leeza does what any good girlfriend would do to keep her friend in line and tells her to "stop it!" while pushing her away, then she just cracks up some more. Those two are endearing without ever even trying to be. They look like sisters.

Johnny and Brandi go off to shop but because they're not insecure they don't see it as a slam on them or their talents and happily do what is asked of them. Johnny all but promised he would track down Tiger Woods's trainer to come to the event, but now realizes he got in way over his head when the guy won't return his calls. Rookie mistake, don't say you'll do something big like that until you know you can deliver. And also as a side note, this is a perfect case in point that just because you are a celeb doesn't mean you get your calls returned. It doesn't always work like that. Real life is not the movies.

Kenya is still butt hurt that Kate sent her off to shop. Gosh, I hate to say it but there are only a few players left and somebody had to shop, and the shopping on this trip is actually way more important than it's been to many other tasks, since this task seems very much about the space and experience they are putting together. More important than making sure there were flowers on the table and cutting boards shaped like hearts at their frozen food challenge some time back anyhow; that didn't really matter. Kenya is still stuck on Kate not really understanding luxury, and that Kate needs her expertise with how to build sets. Luxury, eh? That sounds silly coming from someone wearing some of the tackiest giant earrings I've ever seen. I was prepared to scoff at Kenya claiming to be some expert about sets too, but then I checked her IMDB and realized she's done a whole host of guest appearances on various sitcoms, which almost always build their sets from scratch and rarely film on location where you make something preexisting your set, more like how Kate's show is. I doubt Kenya ever pounded a single nail into a set in her life but at least she's been around those who do. She's more qualified than Kate anyway. Maybe it was a bad idea to send her off like this after all.

Vivica says she's keeping an eye on Kenya because Kenya is a back stabber.

Ian really does have friends in all kinds of places. He has one friend making their logo for them with flowers, another friend doing some sort of rendition of Trump's face for the display that looks like a Wall Street Journal sketch. If you asked him for a friend who makes Raisin Nut bran and could deliver a whole truckload of it to the event he'd have that too. Leeza said everything really fell into place for them and it was nice to get rid of Kenya. Next to Kate, it's obvious Kenya is the most disruptive player left, even Leeza has to admit she's terrible.

Back in the studio Kate is trying to make decisions with the fabricator and Kenya is bombarding her with texts, mostly with complaints about Vivica. Lol, that's funny. Kate blames Kenya for this interruption. Or she could just put her phone down and ignore it. She doesn't have to swipe it up every time it pings like she's Pavlov's dog. Lol, Kenya is so busy arguing with Vivica about how she didn't wanna stop at Bed Bath and Beyond or Babies R Us or something that she is ignoring Kate on the other line demanding to know what time they're expected to be back.

"It was a five minute stop," Vivica says in her defense, basically shaking her head and looking away. Well if I had any confusion about how Vivica feels about Kenya it's gone.

Haha, Kate's still on the other end wanting to know what the heck is going on. This is too much.

It's the day of the event and they've gone to Trump's local golf course. Does anyone know where my pants are? Geraldo asks as people are spreading rose petals around and such. What? Random. Kenya's just like well if you're behind the bar no one will know. Lol.

Kate's display shows a wedding table, a spa, a guest room and a putting green all sort of in the same room. There's also a Sasquatch kids club off to the side with a couple colorful chairs. It kind of looks like the model you see at a luxury apartment. It's not bad looking, but it's not very interesting either.

Kate thinks it's better than expected but not perfect due to the girl drama the day before. That's her fault though. She did not have to spend more than 10 seconds shutting down that drama. Instead she let it go on all day and wasted valuable time trying to mediate. Stupid.

Johnny never did come through with his golfer but just like Ian knows the butcher, the baker and the Raisin Nut Bran maker, he also knows a golf expert who shows up to help people with their swings. Ian's setup is already infinitely better than Kate's, with a massage area, the golfer using some kind of computer to analyze your swing, and a big poster sized picture book to look at various scenes from the real thing in Florida. This competition is over before it begins.

Their flower sign is buried behind some plant somewhere so Brandi decides to move it out front and center. They play the "dopety-doh" music to let us know Ian is a nut as he comes over and looks like he's going to pop a blood vessel over her touching his flower sign. Brandi quickly gives up on this one, not worth it.

Why is Kate dressed like a sexy Interpol agent? Bizarre getup. The girls are doing a decent job telling the guests who arrive about the various amenities while Geraldo serves them up drinks that look like blue Scope mouthwash. Yum. Geraldo sees his role as "lubricating" everything else. Ewww, pick another verb please.

Kate turns on her sexy kitten persona when the Trump boys arrive with some COO. They like the Sasquatch who encourages kids to play golf, hehe. Kenya thinks their set looks like crap. Seeing more of it up close now, it does look pretty rinky dink. She is convinced she could have pulled this together but for Kate sending her shopping. She's still going on about the shopping. Good grief. Kate claims that she ended up doing all this pretty much by herself last night. Heh, I'll believe that one when I see footage of that. Notice how she doesn't claim to have done this all herself within earshot of any of the other contestants. She doesn't have the balls for that. The Trumps are just asking how it was going and she's already acting like it's the boardroom and blaming Vivica and Kenya for everything. Again, not in earshot of them of course. All this in front of the COO? Rather immature. You haven't even lost yet, Doofus!

Over at Ian's classier setup, Johnny is giving massages that look simply delicious, uhhhh. Ian is a little shaky on the details of the resort when he's explaining things to the Trumps, which is embarrassing. Brandi is shocked he flubbed that, and comes in to save the day answering their questions correctly. She says she stayed up the whole night studying. Wow, good for her. Now that I believe, and it's a perfect example of the kind of over-the-top hustle required to make it in this business. It's a good thing Brandi was there to fill in the gaps what with Ian so busy praising his magical powers and wonderfulness.

Boardroom time. I like Brandi's t-dyed looking dress thing. Kate finally got the memo she should say she thinks they won. So she's learning.

Trump seems confused about Kate's Sasquatch theme. He doesn't seem to get it. As others have pointed out so well, it seems like Kate's tactic is talking slow and pausing a lot to gauge other's reactions, then shifting course and trying something new if she judges the reactions aren't good. It's so true. Kate is just so sweet and calm and just did such a wonderful job on this task, Kenya says. Kate who? Middleton? Lol, we all know from Kenya's interviews she hates our American Kate and thinks she fucked this whole task up, so her over the top facetiousness now is amusing.

Despite Kenya being so nice Kate immediately throws her under the bus for her drama. Lol, what a bitch. Vivica and Kenya are still squawking about going to the children's store or whatever. They're really pissed at each other. Kate's sitting there still as a statue. The look on her face says I'm afraid to so much as sneeze and mess this all up, I can't believe my wonderful good fortune that these two are so caught up in each other they're not blaming me. Kate, don't forget to breathe over there! You have eight kids who need you!

Why does no one ever understand what Trump is asking when he wants to know what they think? They're always like, uh, of what, Mr. Trump? Of course he's asking what they think of their team, how the task went, and so on. Anyway, Ian flubs the name as he explains their concept. Oy vey.

Brandi says things went great, a dark cloud has been lifted from their team. Ha, she really can't help herself. Kenya says that was a low blow. Oh, well, Kenya, you get what you put out, and even the Trumps thought Kenya's comment last week about Brandi's husband cheating on her was vicious. This feud may never end. Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with Brandi's comment and in fact tells her he's proud of her. Aw.

The other team members have a hard time explaining how crazy Ian is without sounding mean. Finally Leeza says look, the guy is "intense." Ha, that's a nice way of putting it.

Ian said he would have to fire Johnny because he didn't come through for him. He had no choice but to say that.

It wasn't even close, the Trumps liked Ian's team the best for all the reasons described before. They did like the Sasquatch thing though, which was all Geraldo's idea.

What's your charity again? Trump asks Ian. Lol, it's okay, nobody knows. It sounds fake to me at times. I wonder if you could get away with catfishing through a fake charity on this show. It would be interesting to try and Ian would be just crazy enough to do it.

Kate's flabbergasted. Narcissists usually are shocked to lose, so that's no surprise. How, how did they lose?? But we had a blue and gold bathtub, Mr. Trump, for goodness sake. With rose petals! We had Sasquatch!

Trump said look your setup was rinky dink. Come on, where was the luxury? Kate quickly blames the girls for the props thing. I love this, Trump is demanding to know if she is saying they spent too much time shopping. She's reluctant, and that's because she is often shopping herself and taking too much time. What a terrible, and funny, predicament poor Doofus is in now! Her only card to play is the girls messed this up by shopping too long, but to do that she has to explain away how she didn't do the exact same thing in the past. Perfect karma. Kate has no choice but to say Vivica is the better player of the two, even though she can't stand either of them. That's the correct thing to say, although if she were a strategist, now might be the time to play a hail Mary and go after a stronger player in Vivica. Not like she has much to lose right now. If she somehow finds a way out of this and Kenya is gone, Kate's absolutely done for on the next task. If she can manage to keep Kenya around though, it might buy her another week. Not that she is even thinking this far ahead, that would be too much for her. She is shooting herself in the foot by rubber stamping all the best players. It's clear now she has no long term strategy, not a very good one anyway. She's been playing week to week like a silly little amateur.

Vivica and Kenya are still going after each other, and Kate's back to not breathing again, not even blinking, for fear of messing this up. Lol.

"Girl drama," Kate finally blurts in the middle of it, pointing in their direction. What the hell? Doofus, shut up. You actually have a teeny, tiny little chance here if this plays out just right. Don't mess it up by talking.

Lol, back in the suite Leeza and Brandi are all head bobbing feeling so validated that other people have noticed what a pain Kenya is.

"This noise gets in the way of work," Kate says, her best comment of the whole season.

"This noise gets in the way of work! Thank you, Kate!" Leeza exclaims. Lol. Well, it is nice to feel validated.

"Perfect," Brandi agrees.

Relish it Kate. This will probably be the first and only time something you said was perfect.

Kate says it was disruptive to be treated like Judge Judy all day by Kenya. Isn't anyone going to ask her why she didn't shut it down then? Why didn't she just tell them to knock it off and get back to shopping? By this point I think Kate really believes that she's got this in the bag with getting Kenya fired. Haha, dolt.

Kenya is like I'm pleasant, easy to work with, I haven't offended anyone. Haha, Vivica's just like, yeah, no. I know the outcome of this, but the way Kenya is talking I think Trump could have gotten away with firing her instead and Doofus would have lived yet another week. The Sandra/Slither Effect again! Unbelievable. Kenya's just being ridiculous now, saying Kate was responsible for all the creative side and continuing to take pot shots at Vivica. That's not true, everyone was involved in the creative. Geraldo came up with the whole Sasquatch idea for heaven sake. Even one of the Trump boys was like, well that's not really true, and Kate beams with relief. Kenya if you don't shut up Kate isn't going to be fired and then I'm really not going to like you, lol.

Geraldo's barely said a thing the whole time until finally chiming in to ask for hazard pay. Hehe! Kate's smiling like a goon now, fully convinced she's not getting fired. Oh, I love it.

Trump is being a man again and wants to know if Vivica thinks Kenya is attractive or also beautiful, whatever the hell that means. Just one of those questions men ask that a woman probably never would care about. Kenya gets some jab in about plastic surgery and Vivica's so pissed now all she can do is wag her finger at her and order her not to go there. Lol. As much as this girl fight is getting old, Vivica sure knows how to hold her own.

Geraldo said it was challenging but Kate did a good job. Trump is stuck on the fact that it wasn't luxurious, which is a clue that he is still very seriously considering firing Kate, whom he seems to think is responsible for that part of it. Doofus here of course doesn't realize that, she thinks she's home free. Haha, #dolt.

Kenya goes on about how Kate doesn't have enough world experience to understand what luxury is. You know I don't like Kate either, obviously, but Kenya is a grade A bitch. She makes Kate sound like a white trash simpleton poser. Hey, maybe Kate is all of that, but I don't think it's necessary to kick trail dust straight into her mouth while she's lying there on mile 899 of the PCT struggling for her last breath. Come on, be professional. Kenya can see to it Kate is fired without being cruel about it. Leeza or Brandi would have.

In a way the drama with the other girls worked against Kate. Trump notes how Kate had a difficult team and Kate found that tough. He doesn't exactly outright say she couldn't handle them, but that seems to be what he's implying. He also says as PM this is really on you. Kate can't argue with that, since that's been her defense this whole season. Kate, you're fired.

Part of me is whooping and breathing a sigh of relief he didn't get so distracted by Kenya's crap that he fired her instead. Another part of me isn't a big fan of how this went down, with Kenya being so incredibly nasty and vicious about it. Kate has an uncanny knack for playing victim and getting a pass for it, and Kenya played right into that. It's not a good thing.

Kate of course can't believe this is how it went down. Lol. Didn't see that coming, she says to Geraldo. Haha, I know, that's what was so entertaining about it. She hugs Geraldo and Vivica. I swear Geraldo calls her "baby." He played right into her father figure thing and frankly, she was his pawn whether he meant it callously or not. A stepping stone to him. Trump was right what he said earlier, Geraldo's not seriously going to be friends with anybody after, that's not the business he is in. And sure enough we haven't seen a single shred of evidence Geraldo has reached out to maintain this so-called "friendship." Kate at this moment is just too stupid to see it. Kenya has already run off somewhere like the troll that she is.

Kate goes down the fake elevator in a blue dress and straight hair and emerges in a pink jacket and Brazilian blowout. Lol, cool, just like the horse in the The Wizard of Oz. Ha, ha, ha! Ho, ho, ho!


How fitting, where's her flying monkey? Kate's crying and blaming Vivica and Kenya for all this. I don't remember a contestant ever crying about getting fired before, and I've seen every season of this show. What a baby. It doesn't add up, she laments. Nothing contrary to the plan they had in mind adds up to a narcissist. Buh-bye!

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reader said...

Admin I think yes her story is from my experience at least partially credible. I haven't watched the program. Pcos isn't just a problem with reproduction; it seems we produce plenty of insulin, but it doesn't do the job of lowering
blood sugar.
II was a runner in high school and college and lean. Then in my mid 20's I began gaining weight. I added step aerobics to my running.
Nothing, maybe a pound lost over 2 weeks.
I began researching pcos. I knew about progesterone, fsh, estrogen, but no one explained weight gain.
I found that doctors were treating pcos women with metformin, putting them on diabetic diets and weight was coming off...and other symptoms went into remission as well.

CS said...

Its always Jon's Fault.

http://www.examiner.com/article/kate-gosselin-investigated-by-child-services-after-abusing-collin

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said...

Wonderful people of the veranda...please love your loved ones like there is no tomorrow. Because sometimes there is no tomorrow. Last night Hubs was here watching his annoying TV shows, now he's not. One fall, a cardiac arrest & my life is forever different. RIP Hon.

reader said...

I went to my gynecologist, a man, and I told him about what I had read. He said we all want a magic pill to help us lose weight, he added that I needed to exercise. I told him about how many miles I ran, all that I was doing..he patted me on the head...and said I needed to do more. He left the exam room...I got dressed, slammed the door and walked out.
I found an endocrinologist, of all the pcp's and gynecologists I have seen over the years, never was I referred to an endocrinologist.
So I found an endocrinologist who was treating pcos patients like diabetics.
He sent me for the standard glucose tolerance test. I was type 2.
I was relieved and at the same time angry.
Between the meds and strict diet the weight melted off.
For awhile I was part of a pcos support group that met once a month. Most of the young women were very large, but had been slim children/teens.

Localyocul said...

I know this slightly off topic. Do most here believe Kate does not have pcos? Is there evidence?
Certain TLC doesn't do any fact checking, still I can't imagine a doctor pursuing any fertility treatment without blood work and an ultrasound.
I read some of Robert's book, but not begging to end, was there evidence there?

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I don't believe she does personally.

getofftwitter said...

The radar story, must have gotten fixed, I just read it. Either radar has their info wrong or the boy tup got kicked out of school last year again? Is this the stress Kate was referring too! and maybe why this kid is being kept from dad, as punishment. Well the article said nothing was found. But, sources our favorite people say that Jon is concerned.

Is this a PR plant for Kate or someone else is putting this out there? Like maybe one of Kates twisted fans?


I tell you, Kate is using Mommie Dearest as a parent guide.

I feel for Colin, cause, it is in a national rag and kids at school, their parent are going to read this and, we all know kids always get a wiff of what is going on. He will be picked on. I blame Kate for it all. Even her recent statements/interviews, those poor kids.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo must have selective hearing. In the interview, when asked if they are filming, Kate actually "so I'm just unofficially deciding that there will be more hours in the future, I hope, so TLC please call me".

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it's just Goofers Gladys spreadin' those rumors again. Not only do the sheeple lack in comprehensive reading ability, but they also are deficient when it comes to listening, and they hear what they want to hear. Then they just run with it, and turn around and accuse the media of spreading false stories. Just another example of sheep hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

The link worked for me.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/02/kate-gosselin-child-services-investigation-singles-out-son-collin/

PJ

Localyocul said...

The link worked for me. I wonder if it's true the twins cry about this. Remember how Mady ran to hug C when he came to their birthday party after "having a sleepover with a friend"? Wonder if that was true or if he was being punished.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Kate's fans have such a wonderful command of the English language, don't they?

Pamela ‏@pammypoo69 23m23 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 : you were doesn't belong there don't know we're that came from!

Pamela ‏@pammypoo69 24m24 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 : You still amaze me u make it look easy raising 8 kids , You deserve mother of the year, you were divorce suits you💋

Do you think that they talk like this in "real life?" Sounds a bit Kate-ish.

Anonymous said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) , please accept my most sincere condolences. I am so sorry for your loss.

PJ

Millicent said...

I just want to say how much I enjoy reading here every day. The humor, the different opinions, Admin's excellent writing and equally excellent moderation, the sharing of our daily lives, makes me look forward to checking in to see what's been posted since the last time I was here.

Thank you Admin and you wonderful Veranda ladies (and few guys).

Localyocul said...

Wonderful people of the veranda...please love your loved ones like there is no tomorrow. Because sometimes there is no tomorrow. Last night Hubs was here watching his annoying TV shows, now he's not. One fall, a cardiac arrest & my life is forever different. RIP Hon.

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OMG I am so sorry! The same thing with my uncle last week just suddenly gone. So sorry for your loss.

CS said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

I am so sorry for your loss .My sincere condolences to you and your family.

Call Me Crazy said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) - I am so, so sorry for your tragic loss. I know there is little comfort in words right now, but please know you are in my thoughts.

AuntieAnn said...

Willowmom, your message taken to heart. My deepest sympathy to you and yours.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Is this a PR plant for Kate or someone else is putting this out there? Like maybe one of Kates twisted fans?

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I seriously doubt it. There are so many things that she or a fan could put out there to get media attention, but a story about child services investigation is not one of them.

Mel said...

Willowmom....so sorry. That's a hard one. Hugs....

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Very sorry to hear that Willowmom. You are much loved here.

PatK said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

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Oh, dear, Willowmom....I'm so sorry. My deepest sympathy.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Unless this was Jon's revenge for someone (Kate or TFM) snitching about the million $ judgement.
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I thought about this and I hope that Jon wouldn't stoop this low.

And if it is true and KK finds out he's going to have hell to pay even if he didn't he'll have hell to pay.

I wonder how long it's going to take for a negative Jon story to come out or for KK to tweet some bs about this new story.

Mel said...

If it's true that she makes him eat alone, that breaks my heart. I wonder if she withholds food, too...

This reminds so much of the horrific child abuse stories one comes across sometimes. The abuse being worse than anyone knew. People suspected, but said nothing. Or tried to help and were removed from the kid's life.

Steve should be ashamed of himself.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Something has been going on with her and Collin for quite a while. He is seldom allowed to visit Jon with the other tups

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Was this confirmed somewhere, and if so, where? Or is it just something that was passed along as rumor?

Mel said...

Collin's comments on the couch...those were so clearly rehearsed.
I can see her drilling it into him what he must say to the investigators.

She probably made him say it over and over until he got it right. As she stood over him with a raised fist. Or a beating instrument. Or a plate of food.

My heart just breaks for that poor little guy. And the other kids, having to watch that.

I hope he finds us someday....and knows that many people tried, many people prayed for him because it was all they could offer him.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

In light of these recent rumors Collin's comments in the couch interviews are all the more concerning.

I just do not buy that whole I'm proud of my mom speech about how amazing it is to him she raises eight kids at once. I simply do not believe he is old enough to grasp all of that or care, unless somebody has drilled that into his head. And if that's the case his mother's ego should not be his burden to bear. His job is to be a young boy, not Kate's emotional crutch. Emotional abuse is extremely hard to identify but very harmful.

redbirdsings said...

Oh, Willowmom, I am so sorry. My prayers are with you and your family!

Anonymous said...

So it has come to this, even if it is via an online rag mag. A story about a singled out tup, possible abuse, the one known to be left behind and not visitng his dad with the others. True or not, how awful to be the focus of such a story, this poor 10 year old boy. How proud you must be, Mommy Dearest. This in a week when you practically prostitute yourself begging TLC to call for more filming during the brief interview minute you get from the pathetic final appearance on CA. Spin this one, sheep, double dare you.

My condolences, Willowmom.

OrangeCrusher

Anonymous said...

My sincerest condolences Willowmom, I am sending you a huge virtual hug.

franky

JoyinVirginia said...

Willowmom, so very sorry.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Willowmom, I am so sorry.

swingsandroundabouts said...

Willowmom, I am so sorry. My sincere condolences to you and your family.

RonnieandMaggie said...

This makes me think Collin was not allowed to be at the birthday party as a punishment. She said on the show that it was because he was at a friend's house that weekend. Does anyone else remember how sad he looked on the couch when the other kids were talking about the party?

Wowser said...

Wasn't Colin the one in TFW's abuse journal the kid she said reminded her of Jon with "that clueless look"? I think that is the evidence that Colin is the goat and the angst she has for Jon she takes out on Colin.

Localyocul said...

I read a couple of books by survivors of horrific child abuse (locked in room 24/6 kind of thing). In all o them the rest of the family lives a normal life and no one suspects until teachers start noticing in the one book where the kid was allowed to go to school

Anonymous said...

Collin was the donut kid in Robert's book. My heart breaks for this little guy. I hope she pays.

PJ

Localyocul said...

I'm starting to get really mad here. And confused. In the birthday episode TFW said Collin was at a friends house but then they showed him arrive. Did he get to play it did that bitch make him wait til the playing was done? Why would he go to a friends house the weekend of filming/the tips birthday? Plus they also had the garage sale that weekend so he wasn't gone all weekend. I bet she didake him miss the party . Remember she made Mady miss one of the histori sites (Grand Canyon?) who does that?

Localyocul said...

Who said they want to hug their mom but she won't let him? And whose books did she knock off? I'm pretty sure the hug comment was from Collin ?

Girl From Up North said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said..

Willowmom, I am so sorry for the sudden loss! We here on the verandah will, no doubt, keep you in our thoughts. I hope that you have someone to talk to and that you do. We will always listen. :-(

Layla said...

Willowmom, I am so sorry for your loss! I wish we could all reach out and give you a hug. Unfortunately, all we have is words, but please know you are in my thoughts and prayers.

JMO said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3
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Willowmom- I am sorry to hear such sad news. Condolences to you at this difficult time.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Willowmom

I'm sorry for your sorry you be in my payers.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Wowser said... 33
Wasn't Colin the one in TFW's abuse journal the kid she said reminded her of Jon with "that clueless look"? I
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If this is true I hate this for that poor boy he seems so sweet. He reminds me of my nephew and looks just like my brother.

I had to call child services on her a year or so ago. Now his mother doesn't do anything with my nephew his mother is neglectful.

However when it comes to her daughter that she has w/another bum she'll do anything for the girl.

I hate my nephews mother but I can't do anything to help him.

Bill said...

Tucker's Mom said... 184

Remona Blue said... 182
Tucker's Mom said... 181
''It's Collin who's singled out, but I thought he wants to hang back and not go to Jon's.''
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Why do you think that?
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Doesn't one of the boys not go over to Jon's?
Maybe I got the wrong one.

Recently, Kate made one of the boys pose for a pic while eating his dinner alone at night, so she could Tweet it.


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That was Aaden who ate the late dinner.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 25
In light of these recent rumors Collin's comments in the couch interviews are all the more concerning.

I just do not buy that whole I'm proud of my mom speech about how amazing it is to him she raises eight kids at once
*******
The kids have had a lot of undue burdens drilled into them.
I don't know of anyone who grew up with >2 kids in their family who said they outnumbered their parents.
The whole 8 against 1 is a construct that Kate has manufactured.

After this most recent Radar claim, I've thought about what TLC has chosen to air on the specials, specifically bringing up such things as what Kate does after they go to school (sleeps), how often the kids get to hug Kate (not much), how often she washes their sheets (once a month), and the inordinate amount of YAWWWWWWWWWWNING, on the couch that was seen recently.

Is there a not-so-subtle message here?

I also find it hard to believe that Collin was allowed a sleepover at a friend's house not only during filming, but when they filmed at a place that the kids love to go to.
It's not like the twins had their party at a nail salon.

Bill said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

Wonderful people of the veranda...please love your loved ones like there is no tomorrow. Because sometimes there is no tomorrow. Last night Hubs was here watching his annoying TV shows, now he's not. One fall, a cardiac arrest & my life is forever different. RIP Hon.


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Sorry for your loss. Life is fragile.

Bill said...

Localyocul said... 9

The link worked for me. I wonder if it's true the twins cry about this. Remember how Mady ran to hug C when he came to their birthday party after "having a sleepover with a friend"? Wonder if that was true or if he was being punished.


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Why would they bother setting him up arriving with a couple of other kids if he was being punished?

localyocul said...

OK, and wasn't it Collin who was thrilled to be spending time with his brothers on the zip line? And who said they got in a lot of trouble in their old room? All these things taken alone seem sweet/innocuous, but as a whole it makes me wonder. My dd was emotionally abused by her stepmom as a young adolescent. She would not stand up to the sm but turned her anger on me. In public though she would be all smiles and polite to the sm because she feared being othewise. And, she wanted desperately to please her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Willowmom, so very sorry to hear about your loss. I'm glad
you shared it with us, and hope you find some comfort here.

Bill said...

RonnieandMaggie said... 32

This makes me think Collin was not allowed to be at the birthday party as a punishment. She said on the show that it was because he was at a friend's house that weekend. Does anyone else remember how sad he looked on the couch when the other kids were talking about the party?


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Collin was there. He can be seen jumping on the trampoline in a blue shirt and gray shorts. His two brothers were wearing all black.

Bill said...

Wowser said... 33

Wasn't Colin the one in TFW's abuse journal the kid she said reminded her of Jon with "that clueless look"? I think that is the evidence that Colin is the goat and the angst she has for Jon she takes out on Colin.


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That was Joel she said looked clueless.

reader said...

Again I say when I watch Collin's blank expression as he delivers his high praise for his mother it turns my stomach. And no other child, of the 8 had any such praise for Kate when they were filmed.

redbirdsings said...

I wonder when the tup boy came to the trampoline place when Mady hugged him so sweetly, do you think that he really was at a friends house overnight? Or chained to the chickens?

It is a crying shame that she has not been held accountable for all of the abuse she has dumped on them and the animals for years! And it is also a shame this article came out after CA. The Donald, all of the Trumps and other CA's would of been alerted about it. Then they would have all snubbed her even worse.


Tucker's Mom said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

*******
My heart goes out to you with my prayers.
I am so sorry for your loss.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Localyocul said... 37
Who said they want to hug their mom but she won't let him?
_

And yet Kate tried to forced herself on Cara who clearly didn't want to be hugged.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://www.examiner.com/article/kate-gosselin-investigated-by-child-services-after-abusing-collin
*****
Orfinides makes great assumptions where there is no evidence present, which is no surprise from a fan and apologist.
She fails to make any case that Jon is involved, but what she lacks in journalistic integrity, she makes up for in vivid imagination.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wonder what TFW will do to convince us how much she loves
C. Will she open her wallet and take them all to the Spongebob
Squarepants movie this weekend? Or can she only take them
to freebies? You just know damage control is coming.

And, yes, that "sleepover at a friend's" is highly suspicious to me,
too. This child has been part of a pack since the minute he was
born -- no, since the minute he was seen on a sonogram (which,
his mommy so eloquently stated, was the worst day of her life).
He's been made to dress identically to his brothers for a decade.
Given the hardest, dirtiest chores. And now we're expected to
believe he was granted some "privilege," while his siblings were
having a party at a virtual kid paradise?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Also why would Collin leave I would think he would want to be at his big sisters party and he'd want to have fun with the rest of his siblings.

Bill said...

localyocul said... 47

OK, and wasn't it Collin who was thrilled to be spending time with his brothers on the zip line? And who said they got in a lot of trouble in their old room? All these things taken alone seem sweet/innocuous, but as a whole it makes me wonder.


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It was either Aaden and Collin or Aaden and Joel doing the zip line together and running back. I think it was Collin and not Joel - kind of hard to tell with that wide angle GoPro lens.

I think it was Aaden saying they got into a lot of trouble in their old room. That part is at around 14:35 into the Room Project episode.

I do not see anything concerning with these two events.

NJGal51 said...

Willowmom - I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. Please accept my sincere condolences.

NJGal51 said...

Orange Crusher - This is how the sheeple spin the story. This was one of the comments on the ROL article.

betty its just Jon making up stories to sell to ROL. he is never going to get those kids , he cant look after himself never mind the children. He is so broke and going nowhere in life . He wants a free ride . I cant believe how many people actually believe Kate is bad to her children, especially on Jon`s say so .

Localyocul said...


Why would they bother setting him up arriving with a couple of other kids if he was being punished?

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To hide the fact he was being punished.

TLC stinks said...

Sleepless, many times Collin has been pictured shopping with Kate and the twins while the others are with Jon. In fact, on the show Collin was filmed shopping with them at the used furniture store and he said in the couch interview he DOES NOT LIKE SHOPPING. What boy at that age does? It's punishment, no doubt about it and somebody has to watch the chickens.

As far as the birthday party filming, I did not pay attention about Collin arriving late, and he did not contribute anything in the couch interview about having fun or playing there. I would think she would have made sure he was there for filming by having him dropped off early so it seemed odd that she had to explain to the audience why Collin was not there.

Collin is definitely singled out by her. No way am I buying that kid does not want to see his father with his brothers. No way.

swimgirl said...

CS said... 2
Its always Jon's Fault.
*****
Notice who wrote the article....Effie Orfanides. She usually takes TFW's tweets and writes articles about them. Now, she is taking stories from Radar. She is a horrible writer who publishes articles on the worst rag sites such as the Examiner and Inquistr.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Oh, Willowmom ... Blessings and love to you in your sudden loss. I'm so very sorry.

swimgirl said...

Willowmom,

You and and your family will be in my prayers.

Mel said...

And Geraldo says she handles everything with grace.....
Just exactly how does he know that?

He didn't notice her reacting dramatically to her kids? You know, that rewction that was not edited in later? That was not a grace filled reaction.

Being mean to all the kids is bad enough. Being extra mean to one kid is reprehensible and despicable.. Look that up, TFW. You do know what a dictionary is, don't you?

Or her stupid facial expressions when others were talking? And often behind their backs? That didn't seem full of grace to me.

Grace is not an adjective I would ever use to describe that child abuser known as Kate Gosselin. Ever.

TLC stinks said...

Anyone have an idea on the timeline of the COS investigation? It had to be reported by someone credible like a nanny, Figure 8 crew member or Jon.

I feel like with CPS they look for physical abuse. No bruises...then there's no abuse.

NJGal51 said...

OK, put on your tinfoil hats because here is my conspiracy theory...TLC planted the story so that they'd have a reason to tell TFW that there would be no more filming. "Well Ms. Gosselin, due to these latest allegations (although unfounded), and in light of what went on with Honey Boo Boo, we don't feel that it's in the children's best interest to continue filming at this time."

Nah, as long as TLC can continue to make a buck off them they'll continue to film.

Formerly Duped said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3
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How horrible and unexpected. I am so sorry. I will take your advice to heart- sometimes we forget in the day to day routine to tell loved ones how much they mean to us. I hope you find a little comfort here- we do care and offer deepest sympathy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

He is so broke and going nowhere in life . He wants a free ride .


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Yeah, cause being on CA is really going SOMEWHERE in life. Like where, to Chopped next? Lol.

It always amazes me the sheep seem to think Kate is so very different from Jon. She is a reality t.v. freeloader with no other prospects. She has made all the rounds of the halfway decent shows. There is pretty much nothing left for her to do, and with reality T.V. in decline or shifting gears to less competition shows and more unique family shows like Alaskan wilderness people, what is her plan here?

I think her groveling to TLC about please call her was EMBARRASSING. Not only did she out herself that they do NOT have more episodes lined up for her (haha!) but she looked like a doofus begging them on national T.V. to please do more. Have some self respect.

At least Jon can walk into a bar, fill out an application, and ask for a job with his head held high and his self respect intact. I would take that any day over begging for a job on T.V. Some people still value keeping their dignity in their employment. Different values systems, again.

Formerly Duped said...

I agree Collin is often the odd man out, as is Alexis with the girls. He sometimes has a defeated look; at other times he seems angry. He seems bright, helpful and funny. Why is he treated this way? Why is he punished so often? I notice Kate has Collin and Alexis held by the hand a lot and sometimes the others - more the girls & Kate- make mean remarks about him.

Maybe some of it stems from the old Kindergarten expulsion- TFW is still punishing them and encourages the others to as well- for tainting her 'reputation' as having perfect top of the class children, all 8. Idk, but something is wrong there. In the yard sale epi, he said he cleaned the shed out- alone.

TLC stinks said...

If I were TLC, I would not touch her with a 10 foot pole. Just how many times has CPS been out to visit her?

Milo and MsGoody are "fired up"! It's sue, it was the haters, it was Robert, etc.

You know, maybe if the twins are upset about Collin's treatment, maybe they know enough to have told a friend who told their parent. You never know who the "source" was, but I would think CPS would investigate based upon a credible source.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 54

Even if KK thought she and the 8 were unique they aren't any more their a show call fresh off the boat with a whole Asian family on tv sooo now she doesn't even have that-(Cute Asian factor) anymore.

Times are changing but she is not she's the same boring Kate she was 3yrs ago.

Tucker's Mom said...

I told DH that Kate was grifting for more TLC episodes at the CA after-party.
Unreal.
I think it was fine to mention that the kids did have to film 5 episodes that were recently aired, but to take to begging directly to TLC, "call me!", for more episode, while she was there as part of CA, on NBC's dime, was tasteless.

Why beg TLC to call, then add that she's "sure" they'll film more this year?
I tell ya, she'll never have any class.

readerlady said...

WillowMom -- I'm so sorry. You'll be in my prayers.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Also Kate is no Kris Jenner and the kids are no the Kardashians.

Tucker's Mom said...

I agree- there really isn't much difference between Jon and Kate, insofar as that they're both people who thought/think that reality tv is a career.
The fame is fleeting, and you have to get a backup plan in place, live way below the means/money that is flowing in temporarily, and expect the spotlight to fade.

And most of all, be happy going back to where you came from, hopefully better off.
Better off never happens when you insist on chasing the dragon.
That amazing high will NEVER happen again.

readerlady said...

TFMJG has always had a problem with Collin, unfortunately. In one of the early shows she made a comment about how he caused her a lot of trouble or caused her a lot of pain before birth because of "his big old head". Who says that about their unborn child? And how did she know it was Collin? There's something very "off" about her relationship with him -- not that her relationship with the other kids is all that normal. Collin's always been the one I've been most concerned about. The rocking behavior, his outbursts, her detailed abuse of him. I think, in the early days anyway, Mady was singled out for the emotional abuse, but Collin has always been her target for the worst physical abuse.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When I was on vacation Judge Judy was always on TV, international TV leaves much to be desired, so we had it on at breakfast as background noise and a case came on where a family was really mad that their nanny reported them to CPS and wanted damages. CPS evaluated it out and closed the case.

Judge Judy's assessment was basically like, you better show she just completely made this all up and is out to get you before you expect me to discourage someone from ever reporting abuse. It made no difference to her CPS closed the investigation. Judy found for the nanny and dismissed the case.

Sorry sheep, it is for CPS, and perhaps even a judge, to decide whether further action should be taken, not the person reporting it to decide not to report it. This country should not discourage people from reporting abuse even if it amounts to nothing. Too bad, so sad for you and your queen. Besides if everything is fine what are you worried about?

Sue_Buddy said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

What a shock for you! My condolences for your loss.

Tucker's Mom said...

Just want to get everyone's gestalt here- do you think this recent report of an investigation of abuse comes from recent occurrences or from old ones (like the book)?
Do you think this is from a first-hand source, again, like a nanny?

Jumping In said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom)

My heartfelt condolences to you and your family, so sorry for your loss.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I told DH that Kate was grifting for more TLC episodes at the CA after-party.
Unreal.
I think it was fine to mention that the kids did have to film 5 episodes that were recently aired, but to take to begging directly to TLC, "call me!", for more episode, while she was there as part of CA, on NBC's dime, was tasteless.

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Yes. Like I said, embarrassing.

You don't go on TV and beg your network to give you more work. It's tacky and tasteless and shameless. You just don't do it.

It speaks both to how desperate she has become and how little self respect she has for herself and her children. She is literally just going around saying please TLC film me film me! What is wrong with her? Get some self respect. Go down to Maryland and beg at their offices. At least it would be done in private. I know we only sort of mentioned this in passing but to me this incident is one of the most embarrassing things she has ever done. She JUST got off the CA ride, she can't just let that settle a bit before begging? Look at it this way, can you imagine somebody like Angelina Jolie giving an interview and saying hey Universal please call me, I need to direct another movie! People would be horrified and mortified.

TLC stinks said...

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2015/02/kate-gosselin-accused-of-child-abuse.html

Recently Kate was investigated for child abuse because she was suspected of beating her 10 year old Son Collin and also verbally abusing him. Apparently he is the one that got kicked out of the school hewas attending and Kate singles him out for the most punishments and most chores and he gets spanked the most. Too much according to the complaint. According to In Touch, Kate’s preferred method of spanking is to use a wooden spoon and carries it with her the entire

time she is home unless the camera crews are there. If a child acts up while the crews are there she waits until they leave and drags out the wooden spoon and punishes the offending child. Child Support Services are still investigating.

Layla said...

Admin (54) said..
I think her groveling to TLC about please call her was EMBARRASSING. Not only did she out herself that they do NOT have more episodes lined up for her (haha!) but she looked like a doofus begging them on national T.V. to please do more. Have some self respect.
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She has zero self respect. She is content to beg and grovel as long as she get something out of it.
It's interesting that TLC signed up K+8 for a new season, but it was TLC who limited the episodes to 5. She wanted more, so it had to be TLC who said no. TLC did not want more. Filming ended in October, and in that time TLC has not picked up the show for more episodes. She is willing, the kids are (she claims) willing, that Big Fat Fab Life show that had ratings slightly below K+8 has already been picked up for a new season, but not K+8. Now she's trying to shame TLC into more filming. She must be feeling pretty desperate. "TLC, please call me"...does that mean they are not taking her calls?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think I might as well bring up that an anonymous person was trying to float a story here about a couple months back of one or more of the kids getting suspended again.

I reached out to a family source I haven't spoken to in ages, who graciously took the time to let me know that wasn't true, that in fact they had just been to the school that morning and all was well. That said, it's also possible the source could just be protecting them by not acknowledging the truth to me, out of concern for the kids' privacy. And that would be fine too.

I still think the poster was a sheeple trying to get us worked up over nothing and I refused to fall for it or post it without really getting good verification, however I remain open to any possibility if it is proven otherwise. I just thought it was interesting in this new story they are trying to claim there was a suspension again, since I heard that rumor 2 months ago.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate basically mounts campaigns of shame so that TLC will green light more episodes.
From telling her sheep to post and prance around with signs, to her recent tweet about *not* live tweeting during K+8 (because episodes were done airing on Tues. nights), to calling TLC out during an interview...while on NBC's red carpet for Celebrity Apprentice.

There's a time and place for Kate to make her case to TLC, and NBC's red carpet wasn't it.
As she mentioned, the numbers were pretty good, so why be inappropriate and look pushy and desperate?

Anonymous said...

Wow, Admin. I guess they expect you to have the same lack of discernment and ethics that they operate under. I'm glad you and this blog are above that.

PJ

chefsummer #Leh said...

Go down to Maryland and beg at their offices.
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Maybe she did this already and it didn't work so she thought why not beg on CA.

She has no shame but we all know this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's interesting that TLC signed up K+8 for a new season, but it was TLC who limited the episodes to 5. She wanted more, so it had to be TLC who said no. TLC did not want more.

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And the other part about it is if I were TLC her greed would really start to annoy me. It is a GIFT they gave her those five episodes. They could have easily left it to one special or not done any episodes at all. They also didn't have to take her on vacation, they could scrounge up some footage at the dungeon and skipped all the fun of traveling. The ratings from before were low enough to absolutely justify shutting her down forever more. They took a CHANCE on her that ratings would get better. The gamble paid off a little, but they couldn't be sure of that when they signed her on. THEY took the risk on Kate, not her. It's no risk to her, she cashes her check either now. Now after all that, before the ink is even dry on the five episodes, she wants MORE? It's unbelievably greedy, selfish, and ungrateful.

On a strictly personal level I just wouldn't want to deal with an employee like that anymore. Her behavior at another network's event is obnoxious and rude.

Why not just say like Tucker suggested, we just filmed five episodes, had a great time, you can catch them in reruns or on TLC"s youtube channel. Be gracious and grateful for what you have already been given. If TLC wants more, I'm sure they will call without your help begging. I'm sure they are well aware you want more for pity sake.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW's begging for another show also speaks to her lack of a plan
to do anything else. Ever. If I was one of those kids, I'd be looking
into a paper route or a lemonade stand, because Mama doesn't
seem to have much of a hold on future employment.

With all the snickering about Jon's jobs -- waiting tables and being a
DJ -- at least these jobs are recession proof. There will always be restaurants who can hire him to serve food. There will always be weddings and Sweet Sixteens and bar mitzvahs who can hire him
to play music and talk to the crowd. But sitting around with your
fingers crossed hoping for another handful of reality TV show
episodes, when you have 8 children to support? When you, too,
have a recession-proof skill -- nursing -- and could easily adapt
your lifestyle to earning a steady income?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The numbers were decent enough to warrant them considering future episodes.

The other part about it is maybe they WILL do more episodes but it's not necessarily going to be right this second.

Relax a little, breathe. You can't have seasons going year round. There needs to be a bit of a break between seasons, that's how you get people to start missing it, build suspense, and get people curious about how much the kids have grown. 1% of shows run episodes year round, and they are usually gameshows. You aren't that!

Again if I were TLC I would be so annoyed, especially if I WERE planning to do more episodes, just not this second. Nobody wants their talent out there embarrassing them.

I am baffled that this is the sort of behavior the sheep think is fine, yet think JON has no direction?

Her direction is to hope she ends up on somebody else's red carpet somewhere so she can publicly shame TLC into giving her more episodes. That's her plan.

reader said...

I want to know who was paid to "watch" Collin while he was kept from the party.

TLC stinks said...

Collin has always been hated by Kate. He's the one she pulled by the hair and threw him back in his crib, he's the one that was in the emergency room and Kate refused to leave her dinner interview and sent Jon to the hospital, he's the one who was impacted and she refused to leave the furniture showroom, he's the one she covered his mouth at the bus stop, etc. See a pattern?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


With all the snickering about Jon's jobs -- waiting tables and being a
DJ -- at least these jobs are recession proof.

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Yep. I have always looked for recession proof jobs.

Defense work is one of them. People will always get themselves into trouble and in bad times they sometimes get into trouble more. IT seemed stable and it has been.

I considered being a lawyer in the entertainment industry but when I see the way a few of my friends working for companies you would know have ended up, I don't regret it. Most of them still have to work two jobs to make ends meet. Huge production companies you would know only have 2 or 3 lawyers on staff now. Due to legal zoom and other free services only the richest actors are using lawyers now. The competition is unbelievable. It is easier to cut 10 lawyers and just make 3 lawyers do all their work for the same pay. Don't like it there's 50 other people outside who will do it.

And that's just how the entertainment industry is in all respects. It's NOT recession proof. It's cutthroat. They will cut corners and they will cut you out and they won't pay you what you're worth.

Reality T.V. could be gone tomorrow. It practically is. She has done the rounds of all the shows with any self respect. She's done them, there's nothing else left really. Her genre is absolutely both changing into something that has no place for her, and on its way out. How in the world you imagine such a fickle thing to be your life plan for the next 30 years is simply beyond me.

But it's Jon, Jon who fills out applications like a normal person, who is the unstable one. lol.

TLC stinks said...

I love Judge Judy.

Sue_Buddy said...

You don't go on TV and beg your network to give you more work. It's tacky and tasteless and shameless. You just don't do it.
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Just like you don't ask your fans to make posters to put up in their neighborhoods begging TLC to keep your show on the air. Kate has no class whatsoever. None!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Reality T.V. could be gone tomorrow. It practically is. She has done the rounds of all the shows with any self respect. She's done them, there's nothing else left really.
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And how many times can you film the same boring stuff over and over and over again.

You'd think Kate would at least come up with more story line then Birthday
Vacation
Ten Years
Q&A.
Complains about how tired she is and how the kid make her tired

She had been doing this for ten years and she is still boring and still has nothing new to offer.

JMO said...

Tucker's Mom said... 55
I told DH that Kate was grifting for more TLC episodes at the CA after-party.
Unreal.
I think it was fine to mention that the kids did have to film 5 episodes that were recently aired, but to take to begging directly to TLC, "call me!", for more episode, while she was there as part of CA, on NBC's dime, was tasteless.

Why beg TLC to call, then add that she's "sure" they'll film more this year?
I tell ya, she'll never have any class.
-------------------------------

She is a shameless narcissist, a bottomless pit, nothing will ever be enough for her. Based on the recent episodes, she should be completely embarrassed of how she is coping as a mother and how poorly the kids are doing while filming.

I don't think she gives a crap about how her kids are doing anymore, as long as they are filming and the $$$$$$ keep pouring in. She has serious gender issues, even with the six who made her famous. I have always felt the boys are second class citizens in her warped mind, but Collin has always stood out to me. He is bright and articulate for a 10 year old, but apparently does not please HER for whatever reason, probably outspoken.

I never liked that he was allegedly not seeing Jon. If you have nannies and yourself monitoring every phone call to Jon, it appears that you have some concern, not for your kids, but rather yourself.

I have said repeatedly that the boys need to see their dad more often, and find it disturbing that Collin appears to not going to see him, per TFW's reports. The kids are most likely terrified of answering any questions about how things are going with TFW, as they have to live with her retribution and power over what will happen to them.

Anyone who has viewed the recent shows can clearly see this is not going to end well for the kids. The tups have 9 more years with her; must seem like a lifetime to them. A & J are silent, probably trying to stay away from her wrath, while the other 4 are clearly NOT happy. Never mind C & M who display pretty much contempt for TFW, especially C. How do the sheep not see this?

This is a mother who said she wanted to spend 2 weeks with her kids and 2 weeks traveling a month. I do believe that Collin is experiencing a lot of isolation at TFW's hands, but she will never admitted it. I have repeatedly noted my concerns why Collin never went to see Jon.

I am starting to think that TFW is one of the most narcissistic people I have ever seen, and the kids are paying the price. Based on 10 years of her shows, I think this is and will always be about TFW, kids be damned. I wish a Family Court Judge would meet with each kid about their feelings on filming, but I am sure TFW would pepper them with responses. This is no way to live. The kids deserve so much better than what has been forced upon them, and if anyone can not see that Cara does not want to film, they need their head examined.

Sorry, but my disgust level has reach a new high. Never thought that was possible. TFW needs to get counseling but she never will. She has huge issues with raising boys, teens,..... the list is way too long, but she will never take advice from anyone as long as the show goes on. She has pretty much alienated every person in her family, and many friends, etc... and her foundation at this point is her agent, TFM and TLC. Great resources for good parenting.

TLC stinks said...

Well, Kate flat out lied about the expulsion several years ago, so anything goes. I have to ask myself how she managed to get Collin and Alexis back in that school because where I come from, once expelled you are out.

Bill said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 92

The numbers were decent enough to warrant them considering future episodes.

The other part about it is maybe they WILL do more episodes but it's not necessarily going to be right this second.

Relax a little, breathe. You can't have seasons going year round. There needs to be a bit of a break between seasons, that's how you get people to start missing it, build suspense, and get people curious about how much the kids have grown. 1% of shows run episodes year round, and they are usually gameshows. You aren't that!


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Plus the new law restricting how much filming can be done on school days. That Big Fat Fab Life show is all adults and does not have that problem, right? Other than Spring Break, the G8 cannot do much filming until summer gets here.

TLC stinks said...

I think Kate must be a pain to work with, so no surprise TLC is not interested in a full series.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#93), and not only is the reality TV genre changing, but
TFW's "commodity" is changing. She started out as a young
mother, overwhelmed by raising 8 little ones while struggling
financially. Well, she's no longer a young mother, and her 8
are not little, and she sure isn't struggling financially.

Bill said...

Formerly Duped said... 71

I agree Collin is often the odd man out, as is Alexis with the girls. He sometimes has a defeated look; at other times he seems angry. He seems bright, helpful and funny. Why is he treated this way? Why is he punished so often? I notice Kate has Collin and Alexis held by the hand a lot and sometimes the others - more the girls & Kate- make mean remarks about him.


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One thing I did notice - Alexis and Collin are next to Kate at the family dinner table.

chefsummer #Leh said...

How do the sheep not see this?
_____

Because they don't care about the kids and their well being they only care about their queen.

angie said...

I have always felt the boys are second class citizens in her warped mind, but Collin has always stood out to me. He is bright and articulate for a 10 year
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If I am remembering correctly, Robert said he wrote the book FOR COLLIN.
(or because of him, I don't recall).
But there's a problem with Kate and this child.

jbranck1980 said...

I'm not at all surprised she called out TLC in the interview. This is from the woman who calls out companies on twitter instead of just making private phone calls to helplines like the rest of us. She just did it on a bigger stage. Shameful.

JMO said...

TLC stinks said... 96
I love Judge Judy.
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Likewise. She cuts through the BS.

JMO said...



TLC stinks said... 102
I think Kate must be a pain to work with, so no surprise TLC is not interested in a full series.
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I agree, she is probably very demanding and not a nice person to work with. Prima Dona with many demands and quick temper.

Seems like TLC is creating many NEW shows - overweight people, small people, hoarding,, etc.. TFW's shows are old, stale, and embarrassing at this point, as most kids have checked out and their behavior has become erratic. Wondering if they learned a darn thing after HBB with things not turning out well... at all. Although ratings were reportedly good, she has alienated a LOT of people with recent episodes of K +8 (with so much acting out behavior of kids), and now possibly with a report to CPS. I guess we will have to wait and see, but clearly many of the kids no longer want to film and I can't imagine what was edited, as these kids are dead silent or clearly not happy campers.

Sue_Buddy said...

chefsummer #Leh said... 105
How do the sheep not see this?
_____

Because they don't care about the kids and their well being they only care about their queen.
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The comments from Kate's witless fans are mostly along the lines of, "I love your HAIR in the couch interview," or "Where did you get those sheets for the girls room?"

Kate could yank Collins arm out of it's socket and the fans would compliment the shoes Kate was wearing when she did it. They're blind to her behavior.

Anonymous said...

I had not even really thought about the incredible rudeness she displayed calling out to TLC while at the CA party, on another network and on DT's dime. No doubt the Queen of the narcissists thought it was payback for the way DT treated her; she is utterly clueless about power and pettiness. DT will NEVER open a door for her again. And guess her TLC meeting in Maryland was not fruitful; it does not look like another 'season' of anything is planned. What embarrassment to stoop to a public grovel ing like that. Poor kids.

OrangeCrusher

Wowser said...

Leah #42......found it in the book. loc 7234 of 35437

Poor little Joel----he is in love with his daddy and wants to be loved by me. I do love him.....but I hate to say that HIS FATHER LIKE CLUELESSNESS MAKES ME CRAZY!

And there you have it. Sick bitch.

Mara said...

Anyone have an idea on the timeline of the COS investigation? It had to be reported by someone credible like a nanny, Figure 8 crew member or Jon.

I feel like with CPS they look for physical abuse. No bruises...then there's no abuse.
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It is untrue that someone "credible" had to have reported. Anyone can call CPS anonymously and report suspected abuse and CPS ID mandated to follow up.

JMO said...

Wowser said... 112
Leah #42......found it in the book. loc 7234 of 35437

Poor little Joel----he is in love with his daddy and wants to be loved by me. I do love him.....but I hate to say that HIS FATHER LIKE CLUELESSNESS MAKES ME CRAZY!

And there you have it. Sick bitch.
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Parental alienation is nothing to be proud of. I am NOT a sexist, but the boys especially (and girls) do need to have contact with Jon.

JMO said...

Anonymous said... 111
I had not even really thought about the incredible rudeness she displayed calling out to TLC while at the CA party, on another network and on DT's dime. No doubt the Queen of the narcissists thought it was payback for the way DT treated her; she is utterly clueless about power and pettiness. DT will NEVER open a door for her again. And guess her TLC meeting in Maryland was not fruitful; it does not look like another 'season' of anything is planned. What embarrassment to stoop to a public grovel ing like that. Poor kids.

OrangeCrusher
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She is a bottomless pit narcissist who is never happy and unless she is filming, her life has not point to it. This is her damaged mind after pre-marketing her tups, and endless filming of her kids (the props).

TFW needs more more more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ as she is a bottomless, soulless pit. The hell with what is good for the kids. ALL ABOUT KATE.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate could yank Collins arm out of it's socket and the fans would compliment the shoes Kate was wearing when she did it. They're blind to her behavior.
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Sue it's sick isn't it.

And she did slam her son into a crib and what did the sheep say?

Oh she over worked or tired sooo the f88k what that doesn't excuse her hurting those babies. I was born a sick baby and never once did my mom hurt me. my mom quit her job that she was almost retired from to care for me.

JoyinVirginia said...

NJ gal, I like your conspiracy theory (268). Of course all this is rumor. CPS investigations are supposed to be confidential. Hopefully we will never hear the details of an actual confidential CPS case.
Since you are in NJ, what I want to know is where are best sources to hear real details about what's going on at Set on Hall university basketball program in particular and athletics in general. Things had to be pretty bad for Jaren Sina to leave the program in the middle of the season. They have completely fallen apart after ranking as high as 19. Is it the coach, the AD, who had let this train run off the tracks?

Mel said...

You don't go on TV and beg your network to give you more work. It's tacky and tasteless and shameless. You just don't do it.

And you really, really do not go on TV and beg a DIFFERENT network to give you more work. Tacky, tacky, tacky. No class. Or grace.

Wowser said...

Here's another one from the book about Collin

Today I was officially a horrible mommy. I failed all the way! I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am so rough with him and the girls see that---

getofftwitter said...

Well, I'm done watching WW. She just agreed with Kate on Kates de-aging.

Remember, Kate likes to tease her fans. I think that TLC has not made up their mind on whether they are going to give Kate a series/season or do these mini series of 5 episode, instead of a full 13. They are going to film, it's just how long and how many are they going to film. They do this with the Roloffs. 5-6 episode and they are done. Same with the Duggars. So Kate being Kate is trying to push the subject by trying to embarrass them, like one said here she does businesses. This could back fire on her. K8 does have the ratings that TLC would consider acceptable for more shows.

redbirdsings said...

JMO said...114

I agree, Of course, they ALL DO! They are HIS children, too, FW.

This is not going to turn out good. She could possibly get drunk and hurt one of the kids severe enough to be hospitalized. And since she doesn't do ER's, hopefully the kids will dog pile on her and one of them call for help.

Anything goes and is possible with that
sick battleax!

This just reminds me of the girl's parents un-invite to her wedding. Being abused the whole 9 yds. for 16 years until she was able to runaway. Then her parents expect to be invited to the wedding. I wonder if she got people to watch to see if the came so they could stop them from crashing the wedding/reception.

getofftwitter said...

I also see Kate is hiding. The 17th is the last time she posted anything. I wonder what she is going to use as an excuse.

She is in twitter jail
she was sick
kids were sick
phone died
she was sooo busy

anything else?

redbirdsings said...

Does anyone here drink Chock full of Nuts coffee? I saw it on sale in a circular ad and I thought about the commercial.

Mel said...

If you keep getting reported to CPS wouldn't you eventually think that maybe it's you?

getofftwitter said...

Admin: I think Kate thinks cause she was on National TV, that she is very important, and TLC better give her a call or some other network, will and TLC will lose. Fame gone to Kates head.

Molly12 said...

TLC Stinks said...Anyone have an idea on the timeline of the COS investigation? It had to be reported by someone credible like a nanny, Figure 8 crew member or Jon.

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The article from In Touch states the investigation was in Nov. 2014. They also have sidebar pictures: Kate with her hand Collins mouth, spanking Leah and a nice view of "the spanker" in door of the van.

JB said...

Admin,

I can't copy and paste this morning from the blog but your comment regarding Whitney's Big Fat Life-

PCOS does make it more difficult to lose weight and easier to gain but it is not like she woke up and was suddenly 400 pounds.

I have 2 friends who have PCOS. One is chubby, eats well and does not really excersise. Her problem is pretty bad skin issues and thin hair. She has 2 of her own kids. She looks like a pretty average working Mom. The other one is obese. Can't get pregnant and has bad skin and is type 2 diabetic. She eats a lot and she gains quickly.

I think Whitney is a TLC darling in that she is loud, obnoxious and an attention seeker. I could not stand to watch her more than a few minutes. There is nothing attractive about watching her dance. It is entirely her own fault she ballooned to 400 pounds.

All I can san is YUCK and TLC must love her.

JB

FYI said...

Willowmom--I am so sorry for your loss. My deepest condolences.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Gladys is calling all of this malarkey. Actually, she spelled it wrong, but Milo is so careful about spelling and punctuation, don't you know?

So, Milo, tweet your precious one and ask her if there was an investigation. The question is simple: "Was CPS there to conduct an investigation?" If it's lies, all lies, then you have your answer. You've asked her so many times before to set the record straight. #DoIt.

Sara said...

Again, so angry with Jon. He should never, ever have allowed Collin to choose his own visitation or rather allow Kate to dictate what the courts put in place. Not even one time. This has gotten so out of hand he may never have a relationship with his Dad. I have said it before and I will say it again, Jon did not do right by his children. He has that to live with the rest of his life. His past will haunt him and his children forever. I suspect so will never have a solid relationship with him because of what they endured with Kate and how Jon decided to be 20 again instead of their protector.

Sara

AuntieAnn said...

If the execs over at TLC can make their precious HBB show disappear because of Mama June's behavior, they can do the same with Kate Plus 8. It's almost of no consequence whether or not anything came of a visit from CPS, it's still not the kind of publicity they'd want associated with their 'brand'. They played a major role in creating this catastrophe of a woman but as Jon found out, TLC giveth and TLC can taketh away.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Maybe there was a trip for 2 somewhere in the CA wrap party
swag bag, and TFW decided to use it immediately.

TFW was given an enormous opportunity on CA, and she made
it clear that it didn't work out quite as she'd hoped. How about
shaking that off and tweeting about the experience? Did she
have any fun visiting NYC? How was the after party? Was it
nice spending time with fellow castmates? Did she get to visit
with the Camp Barnabas guy? Or, perish the thought, did she
tweet Mr. Trump to thank him again for the opportunity?

But instead of parlaying that last CA episode buzz into some
possible positive attention, she's been mostly silent. She only
bothered to tweet to defend herself about calling Leeza's husband onstage, and to lament that "her" show (K+8) wasn't on that week.
Again, this is when a good friend might offer some helpful advice,
but she's kicked everyone unpaid to the curb.

Formerly Duped said...

CPS doesn't always act- they have so many 'worse' cases. My friend was putting in complaints against her ex for beating their 10 yr old son, hitting him with a belt, forcing cold showers on him for punishment, withholding food, leaving him alone at night, emotional alienation, forcing him to watch gf masturbate..nothing, case closed.The child is now wetting his bed and acting out. ..my friend is seeking custody and divorce and stands a good chance, but visitation probably will continue.

handinhand said...

The other part about it is maybe they WILL do more episodes but it's not necessarily going to be right this second.

Relax a little, breathe.
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No time to relax and breathe. Spring break is a'coming and there's no way she wants to be saddled with them all alone. She needs the crew daddies and the TLC sponsored and organized agenda to see her through a week with the kids. It is 8 against 1 after all.

I hope they'll be with Jon that week.

terri said...

Looks like TLC'S new show Our Little Family had a rating of 2144 million viewrs and a .07 share. i don't know if this will mean that they are going to be around for a while and quite possibly replace Kate. The kids are young and that seems to be the draw so I would think with the G kids getting older their days are numbered.

TLC stinks said...

Maybe this is why she got reported. New child abuse laws in PA went into effect in Dec.

http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/7450733-74/child-abuse-pennsylvania#axzz3SDL06a7M

NJGal51 said...

She is in twitter jail
she was sick
kids were sick
phone died
she was sooo busy
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She was shoveling the fucketybillion inches of snow that piled up while she was in NY doing CA.

Wowser said...

Getofftwitter: I definitely agree that TFW is full of herself however, in light of the fact that 1 hour before that she was snubbed by EVERYONE on CA on national television, I would say that shoutout to TLC was a freakin Hail Mary....she is sounding desperate....especially when on her last second of exhaling, she got out "and the kids want to know when we are going to film again"...bitch please.

handinhand said...

And how many times can you film the same boring stuff over and over and over again.

You'd think Kate would at least come up with more story line then Birthday
Vacation
Ten Years
Q&A.
Complains about how tired she is and how the kid make her tired

She had been doing this for ten years and she is still boring and still has nothing new to offer.
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Maybe now would be a good time for her to play the Steve is more than just my bodyguard card. That ought to draw eyeballs. If viewers have tired of the kids, they can instead tune in to watch Kate and Steve plant new privacy landscaping or cook pizza while wearing Dolt and Dolter aprons.

NJGal51 said...

JoyInVirginia - I've never watched a basketball game in my life. The only sport that I watch is baseball and then only if the METS are playing. I don't follow college sports at all.

Martha said...

Willowmom, I've imagined what has just befallen you. How sorry I am to read of this, and will do my best to keep your words foremost in my deeds and thoughts. Don't be hard on yourself, though...you're certainly not alone in what you've revealed. What a shock! So very sorry for your loss.

Karen Kaufman said...

She mustn't have anything lined up if she's back to shamelessly begging on tv for a job. Bitch, go get a job. Don't sit on your flat wide ass waiting for handouts.

TLC stinks said...

FYI, in PA a finding of "unfounded" just means there was a lack of evidence, not that the allegation was false.

Karen Kaufman said...

Iggy Azalea Ditches Twitter Because There’s Too Much Negativity On The Internet.

Hear that, Krieder? She says she needs to be happy. How about following suit instead of playing the victim?

TLC stinks said...

Hmmm, Nov 2014, after some filming. Maybe a crew member grew some. Oh, and that unfounded decision is kept on file for one year. And, yes, anyone can anonymously report abuse and CPS is supposed to check out every allegation but they don't have the man power to that, IMO.

Sue_Buddy said...

terri said... 129
Looks like TLC'S new show Our Little Family had a rating of 2144 million viewrs and a .07 share.
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That's pretty good. On Tues. night Duggars won top ratings with 3228 viewers and a 1.2 rating. Of the Top 100 on Tues. night TV by the numbers, there were 5 TLC shows, and 4 of the 5 had more viewers and ratings were higher or even on 4 of them. TLC didn't even make it into the Top 100 on Monday night. No cable results for Wed. and Thurs. night yet.

Sara said...

Anyone else thinks it is strange that Uncle Poodle from HBB tweeted Kate last night a "hey girl"

Things that make you go hmmmmm!

Sue_Buddy said...

Alternate Universe said... 140
I am quite happy that my values system doesn't align with yours.
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And I'm pleased as punch that my values don't include closing my eyes to the fact that the only way Kate can provide for her children is to make them work. I don't call that being "capable" of providing a living for them. They are providing a very luxurious living for her.

Sara said...

I believe the little girl Collin arrived with is the chicken farmer's daughter. This might actually be his little friend, or Collin had his "work" to do for Forest's chickens and they got someone to bring him later. As stated, he was filmed jumping and the little girl was right next to Mady during the cake part. I don't think Mady would prefer a school chum of Collin's to sit next to her at her party but maybe the neighbor girl who helps with Dad's chickens, their chickens, helps with the plowing and haying might have come friendly with some of the kids. It is just a theory. But then again how many 10.5 year old boys sleep over at little girl's homes?

I think he was at home working and the chicken people brought him.

Now that is a lead that needs investigating. Does Collin do work for Spring Creek farms in exchange for organic milk and chickens???

Anonymous said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) #3

Have just read your sad news. I offer my sympathy to you and your family. Please take care of yourself at this sad time. Prayers for you in this time of grief.

bm

Ingrid said...

pizza while wearing Dolt and Dolter aprons
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When I read this I pictured the logos I'm with Dolt --> <--I'm with Dolt on their matchy blue polos too.

PatK said...

Why is Milo the only one flappin' her gums about the alleged investigation? Are the other ewes afraid to touch this one with a 10-ft. pole?

And why hasn't Milo issued her famous "What say u Kate? Can u clear up this outrageous RUMOR?" Snap out of it Milo! Instead of complaining about RH, ask your BFF what's what!

JR said...

Does anyone have a link to Kates begging for more filming? She surely did give herself away....doesn't sound like theres anything on the horizon right now with TLC....she has no class at all....idiot....wait, desperate idiot....

FYI said...

The article from In Touch states the investigation was in Nov. 2014.
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In one of the episodes(or a TLC clip), it showed the tups on the couch holding a take clapboard dated Dec. 7, 2014. So if the investigation was in November, their couch interviews were done after the investigation.

It's possible that Collin was told(or forced) to say
"she is really good for 8 kids and 1 mom" in one of those couch interviews as damage control.

Layla said...

Sue_Buddy said... 147
terri said... 129
Looks like TLC'S new show Our Little Family had a rating of 2144 million viewrs and a .07 share.
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That's pretty good. On Tues. night Duggars won top ratings with 3228 viewers and a 1.2 rating. Of the Top 100 on Tues. night TV by the numbers, there were 5 TLC shows, and 4 of the 5 had more viewers and ratings were higher or even on 4 of them. TLC didn't even make it into the Top 100 on Monday night. No cable results for Wed. and Thurs. night yet.

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Good ratings. This is the show that filled in the same date/time slot as K+8. TLC is looking for shows that will bring in consistent, high ratings. The Little Couple, 19 Kids, Long Island Medium, etc have a solid fan base and pull in consistently strong ratings. Not K+8. TLC is smart to go for somethig new that at least has the potential to be a hit, rather than settling for a show like K+8 that is never going to bring in the big numbers. We'll see how this new show ends up doing in the future, but for now it's got K+8 beat.

Formerly Duped said...

Collin is often seen doing chores while the others merely complain. He cleaned the shed,loaded and sorted yard sale stuff, handed out the painting supplies in Maine, cleared the table, fed Shoka in the b-day special and yet ends up with his sandwich on Indian Island thrown at him. None of the kids want to be on a team with him. He sat with a big gap between Joel and Collin and him one couch interview.His was the only made bed in the old room. Yet Kate criticizes his clothing taste and scolds him for teasing a girl tup about her hair.I know he apparently has a temper but why does the family often ostracize him?

JoyinVirginia said...

NJ Gal, we can still be friends! I realizenot everyone enjoys watching a ball bouncing around.

Formerly Duped said...

article defending Kate and blaming Jon and Collin.

http://www.musictimes.com/articles/29064/20150219/kate-gosselin-investigated-child-protective-services-jon-collin.htm

FYI said...

I didn't include the whole quote from Collin in my previous comment. He said "But she's really good for 8 kids and 1 mom... & I'm really proud that she's my mom".

Yep, that obviously was an attempt at damage control in case the story about the CPS investigation came out.

JR said...

Willowmom....so so so sorry...

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I remember when C was a toddler, and TFW praised him for
pitching in, and saying to her, "Here's your helper boy!" It
seemed like such a sweet thing. But there is a dark side to
it. Why did a toddler have such a need to help? Unless it
was his only way of getting positive attention. Or worse --
a way of keeping his mother from beating him.

Mel said...

Sometimes I wonder if the reason Collin is the only one doing chores is not because she's forcing it on him, but because he's trying so, so desperately to please her.

And he knows that doing her work for her will please her. And doesn't get that nothing he does will ever make her happy.

You can sense the poor little guy trying desperately to receive a good word from her.

Mel said...

We were commenting about the kids yawning/stretching during the couch interviews.

I think we were all assuming that the interviews were filmed during the day (when a normal person might have them done), and thus the yawning, etc. seemed a little odd. Perhaps bored with the whole thing.

Now it occurs to me that the filming was done very late at night...thus the tiredness. Or perhaps very early in the morning.

PatK said...

Ahhh...I see that My3Ewes has started to chime in....and of course Jon and RH are behind it! smh

NJGal51 said...

One of the other fans is calling Milo out.

@bird_susieq: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 it's not true so what difference does it make, you make a bigger deal by keeping it going, just ignore it.

@bird_susieq: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Kate is classy and ignores this untrue crap, and you keep it going, you seem like one of her worst enemy's

Anonymous said...

handinhand said...

Maybe now would be a good time for her to play the Steve is more than just my bodyguard card.

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When that happens, you'll know she's circling the toilet.

PJ

High Sodium Content said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

That is terribly sad to lose your hubby so quickly like that. My condolences.

Anonymous said...

Alternate Universe said... 140

I am quite happy that my values system doesn't align with yours. You are correct that neither parent has a steady job; however, one of the two seems capable to maintaining her home, private school for her kids, etc. and the other bounces from rental to rental, has been evicted for non-payment of rent on more than one occasion and doesn't provide child support. Do you scoff at every movie actor out there bouncing from one film to the next, and yet some of them sure manage to earn a nice living. I guess they should go get an office job to make sure their employment is secure.

88888888888888888888888

Okay, I don't even know where to start with this one. Who maintains a home and private school for the kids? That would those same kids. They are the ones people pay to see in this dog and pony show.

And don't you DARE even try to equate sKate NobodywithoutthenameGosselin to a movie star. As soon as you can name ONE THING that she's talented at, you can go ahead and make that comparison. Give your head a shake.

PJ

P.S. Baaaaa!

handinhand said...

Willowmom,

I don't post often but I wanted to thank you for your thoughtful message.

Godspeed through the painful part of this unexpected sad time to you and those who loved him.

Sheri said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

"Wonderful people of the veranda...please love your loved ones like there is no tomorrow. Because sometimes there is no tomorrow. Last night Hubs was here watching his annoying TV shows, now he's not. One fall, a cardiac arrest & my life is forever different. RIP Hon."

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Oh, dear! I know words are trite at a time like this but my heart goes out to you and your family. Wishing you strength and courage during this most difficult time.

Unknown said...

I find it interesting that the child abuse investigation happened in November 2014, because it was reported that Jon had his children for much of the Christmas vacation from school. Could the two be connected?

Thanks to the changes in the abuse laws in Pennsylvania about who are mandated reporters and that they now must directly report to the state's child welfare hotline, I suspect this won't be the last time that crazy woman will find herself in trouble for her treatment of Jon's children.



High Sodium Content said...

I've watched a little bit of Whitney's Big Fat Life. I agree with other poster, she didn't wake up one day and all of a sudden weight 400 lbs. You would think after gaining 50 all of a sudden you might put a check on yourself at get to a dr. I find her story weird. How at 30 she ended up living at home after living abroad. Her parents have to tell her to wash her clothes, make her bed and her dad inspects her car because she leaves it like a pig pen full of trash. My question to her is what is she eating in the car that its so full or trash and garbage.

angie said...

I have always felt the boys are second class citizens in her warped mind, but Collin has always stood out to me. He is bright and articulate for a 10 year
--
Apparently this writer hasn't read Kate's journal and Robert's PROOF that they are indeed her words.

FYI said...

JR said... 154
Does anyone have a link to Kates begging for more filming? She surely did give herself away....doesn't sound like theres anything on the horizon right now with TLC....she has no class at all....idiot....wait, desperate idiot....

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Here's the interview. It's around the 1:50 mark, ending with Kate saying "So TLC please call me".

http://insidepulse.com/2015/02/18/murtz-on-the-scene-exclusive-interview-with-kate-gosselin-at-the-celebrity-apprentice-2015-finale-red-carpet/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


FYI, in PA a finding of "unfounded" just means there was a lack of evidence, not that the allegation was false.

***

Yeah, same with CA.

If a parent comes in on a petition and the judge sees six or seven unfounded referrals, it absolutely plays a role in the judge assessing the whole situation as opposed to have no referrals.

Also, previous unfounded referrals can turn into substantiated with more evidence.

Over In TFW's County said...

You are correct that neither parent has a steady job; however, one of the two seems capable to maintaining her home, private school for her kids, etc.

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You do realize that, according to the decision that went down by the DOL, that the funds set aside may be used for the welfare of the kids, which means that money can be taken out of there to pay for their school, part of the mortgage, security system, and whatever Kate deems necessary for the "welfare" of the children? So, essentially, the kids are able to support themselves by working. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Aren't parents responsible for supporting their children? This was one of Rep Murt's concern in this whole thing, and why laws were passed to better protect children in the entertainment industry.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I found Whitney odd as well. Quite frankly she exhibits a lot of the same behaviors of someone else I know who is very overweight.

I'm not sure I believe all the weight gain is PSOS. I think there's emotional issues as well.

Formerly Duped said...

Well, if the investigation was back in November, were there any results or changes? Could this be the reason Jon had more custody, as Remona pointed out? That's great, but shouldn't there be more sanctions on Kate? I guess we just don't know.Iif TFW was talking about more filming after CA I guess that hasn't changed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Regardless of the scant few projects Kate has done on her own, Kate herself has said very clearly she must film her kids to support her kids. That's her own words. She said there is no other way to support eight children but to put them on TV. Her words.

Thus Kate herself admits that she does indeed put the kids on TV to support the kids. Not sure how you argue otherwise.

Seems to me it's a stretch to say either Kate or Jon do the bulk of the support for the kids, the kids do it themselves.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I
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I find this very disturbing.

How do a BABY irritate you to the point you have to abuse them? Kate irritates me and so does my b**ch of a former sis-in-law can I slam them into cribs to.

angie said...

Maybe her 'shingles" was a stress result of being reported to CPS?
Gee, to think of what this bitch has been through over the years, the incidents that come to mind are 1)2 of her children are expelled from school (and she lies about it), 2) her journal is published (and Robert posted a letter proving these ARE her words), and 3) her home state has to write law to protect her kids from working too many hours.

Sure, she lies about everything-her boobs, face, hair,running, cooking organic, kids don't want to see Jon, blah blah blah, but that's just her lying. I would think being turned in to CPS and your state enacting law about something you did would yank a knot in her butt. I guess the stick is stuck so far in there she can't see what she's doing. (and don't forget about her taking the kids medicines with her when she travels)...and the drinking, and smoking, and speeding...and Steve.

How this bitch can look herself in the mirror and call herself human escapes me. She needs a serious intervention. This can't go on forever..something's gotta give sometime. I wonder which kid will pack their bags and leave? I am *honestly* surprised it hasn't already happened. Guess she threatens them with their private schooling being yanked (which I totally believe she'd do in a nano-second).

localyocul said...

Formerly Duped said... 158
article defending Kate and blaming Jon and Collin.

http://www.musictimes.com/articles/29064/20150219/kate-gosselin-investigated-child-protective-services-jon-collin.htm

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Well, let's see, one of the allegations is he eats dinner alone. There is an empty chair in the still of the video; who is missing?

Jeanne said...

My speculation is that Kate is the source of the CPS rumor. The investigation may or may not have happened. But maybe TLC said things were looking bad. She puts it out there that CPS investigated and found everything fabulous. CPS can neither confirm nor deny and in her mind she now has a shining halo.

The article on Radar is confusing. Was a child expelled last year? Did she admit last year that a child was expelled at some point? I feel bad for all the children having to live with a monster.

Millicent said...

Willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 3

Wonderful people of the veranda...please love your loved ones like there is no tomorrow. Because sometimes there is no tomorrow. Last night Hubs was here watching his annoying TV shows, now he's not. One fall, a cardiac arrest & my life is forever different. RIP Hon.
***
Oh my goodness, I am so sorry to hear of your immense loss. You have my deepest condolences.

chefsummer #Leh said...

How this bitch can look herself in the mirror and call herself human
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To be fair I'm sure she more plastic then human.

Sheri said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(179)

"Regardless of the scant few projects Kate has done on her own, Kate herself has said very clearly she must film her kids to support her kids. That's her own words. She said there is no other way to support eight children but to put them on TV. Her words.

Thus Kate herself admits that she does indeed put the kids on TV to support the kids. Not sure how you argue otherwise.

Seems to me it's a stretch to say either Kate or Jon do the bulk of the support for the kids, the kids do it themselves."

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Exactly. All the she said, he said and who pays and who doesn't between Kate and Jon is bullshit.

Those kids are paying their own way AND they are financing their mother's warped ego and extravagant lifestyle with both their earnings and their childhoods.

What's the word again...oh, yeah, despicable.

SeeSaw said...

Happy Chinese New Year.
It's the Year of the Sheep!

It seems some of the celebration has spilled over from the barn and landed here. Perhaps they're looking for our keg?

TLC stinks said...

If that little girl is indeed the chicken farmer's daughter, then I agree with the theory that Collin wasn't spending the night at a friend's, but was actually WORKING.

Lynne In RI said...

Do you scoff at every movie actor out there bouncing from one film to the next, and yet some of them sure manage to earn a nice living.

))))))))))))))))))))))

Bahaaaaa! I mean Baah! Kate is not a movie actor. A D-list celebrity, perhaps, but how many actors put their own children out there to support them? How many actors bouncing from job to job are doing so because they are depending on their kids as a means of taking care of their families?

getofftwitter said...

See-saw: quick hide the keg! LOL

HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!


Unlike Kate she probably calls it that Asian thing, they do every year!

Lynne In RI said...

Willowmom...

I am so sorry! I hope you find the strength within you to get through this very sad time. Just know that he has never really left you, but will always be in your heart and mind.

Bill said...

Sara said... 149

I believe the little girl Collin arrived with is the chicken farmer's daughter. This might actually be his little friend, or Collin had his "work" to do for Forest's chickens and they got someone to bring him later. As stated, he was filmed jumping and the little girl was right next to Mady during the cake part. I don't think Mady would prefer a school chum of Collin's to sit next to her at her party but maybe the neighbor girl who helps with Dad's chickens, their chickens, helps with the plowing and haying might have come friendly with some of the kids. It is just a theory. But then again how many 10.5 year old boys sleep over at little girl's homes?


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Interesting theory. Do you have any solid information either of the two girls he arrived with are daughters of the chicken farmer?

Bill said...

localyocul said... 182

Formerly Duped said... 158
article defending Kate and blaming Jon and Collin.

http://www.musictimes.com/articles/29064/20150219/kate-gosselin-investigated-child-protective-services-jon-collin.htm

(((

Well, let's see, one of the allegations is he eats dinner alone. There is an empty chair in the still of the video; who is missing?


.....................................

That would be Collin missing from the dinner scene in that episode. Kate usually sits at that end of the table with Alexis to her right and Collin to her left.

Anonymous said...

Re her shingles. I currently have a case of shingles. It is painful and debilitating, but I am coping, and healing. I seriously doubt the biotch had shingles, just like I seriously doubt she had/has PCOS. My OB/GYN agrees with me about the PCOS. She gets a rash, she has shingles. She doesn't get pregnant after a few months she has PCOS. What I do think she has are some major personality disorders.

OrangeCrusher

Bill said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 132

Did she get to visit with the Camp Barnabas guy?


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It is rather curious there is not a picture of them together.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Don't the fans claim that Jon signed all his rights over the kids
away, and doesn't pay a dime for their support? If so, why
should it matter if he's a waiter or a DJ or a rodeo clown or a
female impersonator?

Anonymous said...

Sorry, meant to type my OB/ GYN husband, because I would to have anyone here think I actually have conversations about KG out there in the real world. Husband doesn't count :-). Actually last night I asked him a question about PCOS and weight gain, and he said to me, oh you mean like that TV person, the horrible one with all those kids, who claims she has it. Not sure what magazines he reads at the barbershop.

OrangeCrusher

PA Dutch Mom said...

It seems some of the celebration has spilled over from the barn and landed here. Perhaps they're looking for our keg?

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I'm not sharing and I'm not going to make a special trip for extra kegs. It seems like the snippy condescending one has wandered over here again, and it's not even full moon. New moon, however, was yesterday.

Crusher -- you can get very mild case of shingles with a short duration. A friend of mine had them over the holidays. They were only a mild annoyance, but she was diagnosed by a physician, and the rash healed in three weeks. She's worried, however, that if there is a next attack it might be more severe.

I hope you are feeling better soon!

FYI said...

Bill said... 195
FlimsyFlamsy said... 132

Did she get to visit with the Camp Barnabas guy?

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It is rather curious there is not a picture of them together.
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Even more curious because he took a picture of himself with Terrell Owens but not Kate, who seemed to be hanging around with Terrell.

https://instagram.com/p/zQLbO1EElW/?modal=true

Formerly Duped said...

Another time Collin was missing and shouldn't have been, was Shoka's birthday cake and gift ceremony. All the kids, girls with iPads and the gifts only they wrapped, were present, but I did not see Collin on this happy important occasion.

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