Saturday, June 7, 2014

The Big Tip


Once in awhile a reality show comes along that tries to make a difference. "The Big Tip" promises to do just that by singling out people in the restaurant service industry deserving of recognition for community service or just all around do-gooders (one waitress is a foster mom, another gives all her money to a dog rescue, still another is also a firefighter). Rachael Ray will then present the waiter or waitress with a "big tip" in the form of a check.

We're not the biggest fan of chirpy Rachael Ray, her mediocre cooking skills and her ripoff garbage bowl marketed to solve a problem that never even existed, but this tear jerker is a cool idea. And it has a little bit of credibility, since Rachael started out as a waitress herself in her parents' restaurants. She works hard, owns pit bulls, and she promises not to bear offspring because she just wouldn't be a fit mother, which you have to respect. Looking forward to this one. 

Sunday, Food Network. 10 p.m. or check local listings. The series premieres Sunday with promises of more episodes in the fall. 

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Susie Cincinnati said...

Has Gladys ever explained why hubs/LOM turns out the lights at exactly 11 p.m. every night? Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it, but I am curious because it's so odd.

Does she tweet that he still brings her vanilla ice cream before bed?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I have often wondered this about certain people. At what point (if ever) do they stop and think that THEY could be the problem. I have an aunt who does not speak to any of her sisters, 2 (out of 3) of her daughters and no one from her husband's family.


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I have wondered it too and it goes for a LOT of things. Getting fired all the time, kids who hate you, no friends, etc. Sometimes people are just unlucky in life an relationships through no fault of their own, absolutely. But sometimes, I think more often than not, when there are a string of bad things that continue to happen to you, it's time to pause a moment and consider the source.

In my business you hear a lot of excuses and "everyone is sabotaging me or is against me" is a frequent one.

Rarely that is the case. When you get to the point when everyone is "against" you it's usually because YOUR behavior got you to the point where no one can put up with you anymore. I think human beings tend to want to be supportive. We saw it all here when so many of us have the same story, we watched the show because the kids were cute and we were rooting for Kate and Jon. There are reasons for why people "turn."

Susie Cincinnati said...

Another one who hasn't gotten the memo that this is a special, not episodes. Where's Milo when you really need her (him)?

Bonnie Johnson ‏@bonniejohnson94 6m
@Kateplusmy8 i watch your show on netflix, cant wait for more episodes!

NJGal51 said...

I've got both Joyland Nd Mr. Mercedes on my kindle. Which should I read first?

That's a fine looking bully you've got there Kelly. Is he still a horrid, vile creature or is he starting to mellow?

sparkle said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 189

The narcissist in my life has 4 children and 7 grandchildren. That's
11 immediate family members. She has a relationship with one.
When I told a friend about that, she laughed and said, "Can't she
do the math?" So I'd have to ask the fans, "Can't you do the math?"
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The jury is out as to whether the fans can do math, so to make it easy they just tell themselves that everyone in Kate's family was just jellus of her.

AuntieAnn said...

Susie Cincinnati said... 3

Another one who hasn't gotten the memo that this is a special, not episodes.

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I'm telling you, by the time these sheeple catch on, the special will be long over and they'll have to wait another 10 years for the next Gosselin update special. The one where mommie dearest is still living off the kids, except this time they'll be the ones giving the orders. I can't wait to see it.

AuntieAnn said...

jolie Jacquelyn said... 190

And I voted for the present government because I believed they'd change things...

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It changed, Jolie, it went from bad to worse. Very discouraging.

NJGal51 said...

@brookecamillo: @Kateplusmy8 Havent had cable in 10 years....just ordered it to watch your family's comeback! #kate+8 #truefan #happyforyourfamily!

Here' one that TFW retweeted. If she hasn't had cable in 10 years how did she watch the show? I call BS.

Starz22 said...

As for the child support controversy, I don't think Jon really ever had a choice. TLC was backing tfw,they made that clear to Jon. They were making big money off the show and they were not going to let that end. I believe they gave Jon no choice....It was give us/tfw the rights to film the kids or we will make sure you are destroyed financially. They made millions from the show and tfw got everything. I don't think for one second that Jon thought...woot I can sell my kids and never pay support. I think he did what he did just so HE could live. He knew how much money they had made, and might of thought....the kids have millions to keep them in everything they need. A house,clothing,food,private school ect. TFW didn't give Jon a break...she was looking out for number 1 herself of course. The mans ball's were in a vice...This was not a get out of jail free card for him. I really believe it was do or die for him.

Jeanne said...

I need help from those better with photos than me. I looked at the picture of Kate the Clown on twitter. Has she had another procedure since CA? From what I can see her neck looks different. She probably didn't have enough time to get both neck and boobs done and chose neck. Can you successfully botox a neck or do you need surgery?

njay said...

Is Jamie doing the Chicken Dance?
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No, she is pulling up her good bra. She learned it from her bestie.

njay said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 194
Two or ten or more, shame on me.
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Oh Admin...you better choose your words more carefully. Next, we'll read that she/they are blaming you. lol

TLC stinks said...

Auntie Anne: And something else I wonder about. Do the invited friends of the honored six have to sign nondisclosure agreements?

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Yes. Tori Spelling did that when her children's birthday parties were filmed. The kicker was that the celebs with their children had no idea the party was going to be filmed. Now they refuse to attend any future birthday parties.

Carole said...

Didn't she used to wear twin diamond necklaces? If I recall correctly, she stopped wearing the second one around the time the RV episodes aired. Maybe she traded in a friend--er, diamond--for this larger gemstone.

Yep, at one time she did wear 2 necklaces. She also supposedly lost one during a trip. TFW wore just one smaller necklace pretty recently, so I think this larger one is new. A gift to herself for completing CA maybe? Or a gift from a friend? Or another BS story about it being for the kids like the big blingy ring that appeared after DWTS? I think.

Carole said...

And something else I wonder about. Do the invited friends of the honored six have to sign nondisclosure agreements?

I think it's pretty standard to have to sign one when you appear on a reality show, but whether TFW has her own agreement in addition to the one they'd sign for production is another question.

Vanessa said...

Yup, a narcissist will never EVER have insight and ask "is it me?" The spinning wheel in their head will continously spit out a "plausible reason" (insane to everyone else) why they are estranged and when REALLY confronted with their disgusting behavior (or called on it--Saint Tony?) they resort to tears and playing victim. But when it no longer works (Jon??) being the tyrant and flip flopping into baby mode you're GONE. When she siad Jon had changed? She meant it, in her eyes he DID change. She didn't know who this person was that wasn't backing down anymore and taking her shit. So when the same thing happens with friends, extended family, parents CHILDREN she will insanely blame them for the fallout. No, never will she ask "was it me?" Although she adores the word me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Starz22 said... 9
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That's been my impression, too.
I think TLC had Jon by the short and curlies, and he was facing total ruin.
That said, I think he made capricious, poor choices.
It was more important to be "in love" with Hailey, and do his own thing, galavanting etc. than having the patience to make strategic moves to come out of that situation as unscathed as possible.
In short, he paid for his poor choices, and it could have gone differently if he didn't act as he did.
I also think Jon thought he would be making money on tv, hand over fist.
He really got in with the wrong crowd back then, and people were using him, and blowing smoke up his ass.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kelly said... 197
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Quick healing to you and your ankle.
It's tough raise a puppy and not come out unscathed!

NJGal51 said...

Jamie, bless her heart, needs to learn that ladies do not adjust themselves in public, especially when filming. We are not baseball players.

FYI said...

Admin-regarding your review of "The Big Tip", I totally agree. When they were talking about the young man going to college, my first thought was if he was so bright and smart that he would qualify for scholarships. My own daughter got a grant from her university, due to her scholastic achievements.

It just didn't seem to make sense, and that's why I didn't give much credibility to the show.

Kelly said...

Why thank you NJ. Do you want to split custody? :) It's a toss up between which King book to read first. I liked Joyland just a tad bit better as it's got a little spookiness to it plus the sentimentality of a coming of age story. It reminds me in a way of 'Stand By Me'. Both books are so, so good.

Rudy is still pretty much horrid, not so much vile and nowhere near mellow yet but he's getting better every day :) I'm still waiting on his breeder to post pics from her early May litter. We'd like to Rudy a sister before I either chicken out or completely lose what's left of my mind.

I think someone should tweet her side by side comparisons of her before and after good bra and Penny Wise looks and ask her where she bought the "good invisible magic bra". It's these little lies that make everything - absolutely everything she says or does - question her sincerity on everything. It's so dumb and energy deficient to lie about meaningless shite like her boob job. It just pisses me off because she blatantly lies and anyone who can see can tell and yet she thinks she can get away with it. I think that's the measuring stick for her psyche, she'll lie just to lie and is probably pleased as punch with herself.

Is it five o'clock somewhere? I need vodka ;)

Call Me Crazy said...

NJGal51 said... 19

We are not baseball players.
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Hahahahahaha, NJ. That just tickled me. Thanks!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Admin-regarding your review of "The Big Tip", I totally agree. When they were talking about the young man going to college, my first thought was if he was so bright and smart that he would qualify for scholarships. My own daughter got a grant from her university, due to her scholastic achievements.


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Exactly. He was supposedly "MIT bright." And especially with his background of hardship, caring for his little sister and parents out of the picture (what a great topic for a college scholarship essay), he should have been able to secure a scholarship and grants no problem, with any difference made up in low interest government loans. Maybe not to MIT, but to a good school nonetheless. Maybe he will have some debt when he gets out, like MANY students, but at least it's low interest, tax deductible "good" debt that anyone who stays organized and works hard as he clearly does should be able to pay off.

What made even less sense is if he can't go to college because it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, what the heck is 10,000 bucks going to do? He's no better off than he was before.

It just really bothers me that SOME kids seem to think college needs to be handed to them or they can't go. Everyone who is middle class or under is struggling to pay for college. It's not a "special" problem.

That one story really wasn't gelling.

Tucker's Mom said...

Carole said... 15
And something else I wonder about. Do the invited friends of the honored six have to sign nondisclosure agreements?

I think it's pretty standard to have to sign one when you appear on a reality show, but whether TFW has her own agreement in addition to the one they'd sign for production is another question.
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It surprises me than any parent would sign one of these things, and even more, that parents would participate in the continued exploitation of the G kids.
For the former, it would scare the bejeezus out of me to sign a ND agreement involving a woman would would sue a ham sandwich.
For the latter, I think it's terrible to participate in the fake, bs bday party that is being done for a show, for money, for fame.
I know, I know, it's unfair to the G kids that they won't have friends there, but lesson that parents should be teaching their kids is that it is not right to invade their privacy for profit.

There's nothing to be learned from Kate or her kids at this point.
150+ episodes is about 145 too many.
This is for money and fame, period, and any parent who tacitly complies is a jerk, IMO.
First, and foremost, Jamie.


To any ewe who thinks that I don't want the kids to have a party, wrong!
I think the kids should have a big party, a BASH, a BLOWOUT event, just without cameras filming them.
But, that's a non-starter.
Kate would never do that.

Tucker's Mom said...

It just pisses me off because she blatantly lies and anyone who can see can tell and yet she thinks she can get away with it.
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Kate has a very tight group of people that are her inner circle, and in one way or another, they are compensated for keeping her secrets.
Every single one of them.
That and Kate's CA are iron clad and she'd sue a baby giraffe if it meant shutting it up.

Tucker's Mom said...

That one story really wasn't gelling.
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Catfish, maybe?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


That one story really wasn't gelling.
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Catfish, maybe?


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No, I don't think so. What I think it was was just helplessness and a victim of their circumstances. I see this a lot. You get in a certain way of life and you never let yourself imagine there's a way out of that life except by something like a lottery. It's simply not true for many people. His aunt encouraged this helpless behavior by exaggerating the cost of college (usually only private schools are hundreds of thousands of dollars. State and community colleges certainly aren't that much) and by encouraging his helplessness and "stuck" idea unless there is a "miracle". That's nonsense.

I think this boy needs someone to take him by the shoulders and say young man, if you can raise your sister while working so hard in his restaurant, you can certainly figure out a way to go to college. But it's not going to be just handed to you. You're going to have to RESEARCH how to do it and make sacrifices. But above all just get out there and DO IT. No one is going to hand it to you. Rachael Ray may step in this time but what about next year and the next?

Mel said...

You guys are good today...

Vanessa said... 16 -- Yes!

NJGal51 said... 19 -- Good one!

Starz22 said... 9 -- Yep. Destroying Jon financially has been TFW's goal from the beginning. The fact that she had TLC financing her goal was just a bonus for her.

Tucker's Mom said... 17 -- Totally agree!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It would be really awesome if everyone local banded together and decided they weren't going to participate in filming. That means no kids going to birthday parties, no Michaels and coffee shops opening their doors to cameras, etc.

They certainly have enough history with this family to justify such a move.

If that happened their hands would really be tied because they'd only be able to film on her private property. They are more than justified in taking a stand. In fact they'd be heroes for these poor children. I'd love to see the people of PA do this and really make a difference once and for all. There's been some sad things to come out of that state when it comes to protecting our children. They can stop it right here and now by simply saying "no" when TLC calls.

Tucker's Mom said...

Rachael Ray may step in this time but what about next year and the next?
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Better to hook this guy up with a college counselor and financial advisor than to hand him over a check.
Pay for the professionals who can enable him to achieve his goals himself.
He sounds a bit helpless and victimish ;-)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Better to hook this guy up with a college counselor and financial advisor than to hand him over a check.
Pay for the professionals who can enable him to achieve his goals himself.
He sounds a bit helpless and victimish ;-)


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Exactly. As far as charity goes to me there occasionally comes times where it's better not to just give someone money but rather to give them the tools they need to help themselves. He needs a social worker or counselor who can show him the ropes. He needs someone positive, unlike his aunt. He needs someone who looks him in the eye and tells him you CAN go to college. You CAN. 10 grand ain't gonna do that. He'll pay the first semester tuition with it then drop out when there's no more money.

Dude, I get it, your life is tough and you work your ass off at the restaurant and you've never let your little sister down. You're a young person to admire. But your life being so tough actually makes it easier for you to get scholarships, believe it or not. He and his aunt had a very victim mentality and it rubbed me the wrong way.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yes. Tori Spelling did that when her children's birthday parties were filmed. The kicker was that the celebs with their children had no idea the party was going to be filmed. Now they refuse to attend any future birthday parties.


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See this is exactly what I mean. They took a stand. You have to put aside the temporary hurt that will do to the children having no friends there versus what is in their LONG TERM BEST INTEREST. They are not doing it to hurt the children, they are doing it to protect the children and their own kids.

The people of Malibu are good people.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

One more note about Rachael Ray is this is a perfect example of do your research, do your research, do your research.

The sheeple whine and moan about how terrible it was when we asked some simple questions about charities Kate has aligned herself with. But this is part of being a responsible donor. When you are giving someone or something money you have every right to know exactly where it is going and exactly what the situation is. And whether your money might actually just temporarily mask a bigger problem. Had Rachael Ray's team done a bit of research about how college works these days, they would have hooked this young man up with a counselor, not a few grand. All they were doing is handing out a bandaid to this kid, which doesn't fix much.

Tucker's Mom said...

They can stop it right here and now by simply saying "no" when TLC calls.
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I'd love to see the local businesses take a stand.
I understand how much of a boon it was for business in the early days.
Strathmore Railroad
Zoos
Hershey Park
Dutch Wonderland
Sesame Place

But then the marriage imploded and the family became tabloid fodder in the worst possible sense.
The divorce was ugly and contentious and the acrimony continues until today.
Kate has used her twins to smear their father in magazines and a not-soon-to-be-forgotten-umitigated disaster on the Today Show.

Enough is enough.

There's nothing new to learn and nothing new to see- there is no higher educational purpose and Kate has made more money than any of these people could see in 5 lifetimes.
Kate does not need to film.
Period.

The cherry on top of that big old shit cake is the fact that associating with Kate brings no good will and can not possibly be seen as a boon to business.

Can any locals take the temperature of the area businesses that Kate has filmed at?
Why do they still do this?

Turtle Logic said...

Legally speaking, how does one enforce a NDA or CA on a child? The parent signs the form, not the child. I thought parents couldn't sign away their children's rights, especially freedom of speech? Is the child threatened with a lawsuit on their parents if they talk? That seems more like extortion. Kids are always spilling family secrets; it's their nature. At 10 most kids could probably keep the party secrets under wraps, but what about in the past, say at ages 6 or 7?

We should always encourage children to speak up about anything that happens to them. Secrecy and silence are tools of abusers. I'm not saying Kate is going to somehow hurt or threaten the party guests, but don't most kids talk to their parents or other friends about what they did at a party? Some topics are better discussed at home in private (such as various bodily fluids or where babies come from) for the sake of politeness, but a birthday party doesn't really fall into this category.

Can any of our resident Legal Eagles comment on this?

Jeanne said...

I am definitely surprised that people would subject their children to a Gosselin party. The non disclosure is disturbing. Do you tell your 10 yr old he can't tell Grandma about the party? But then there's Kate. Why would you expose your child to a parent who is constantly verbally abusing her children in front of everyone? There's no way she can turn into a kind nurturing mother for the party. She doesn't even like her own kids. She really must think other peoples' kids are icky.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If I recall from first year Contracts, the basic rule for children and contracts is that they CAN contract but if the child ever wants to back out it is violable. They can back out if they want to without consequence. In other words it's a piece of paper. I'm sure it's a lot more nuanced than that, but that's the 101 version.

I don't know the specific rules in PA. But I really can't imagine any judge letting a lawsuit goes forward suing a 10 year old for blabbing at the lunch table.

AuntieAnn said...

Wouldn't that just be like Kate to sue a 10-year-old party guest for spilling the beans. That would finish her for good.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I will be very surprised if there are many children at the faux birthday party. At the age of 10 the G children interact largely with themselves, other than school. No outside activities, no tweeting about carpooling them anywhere. And I imagine the school parents are not terribly keen about filming their kids and signing agreements. TFW has no friends at the school as she does not interact there either. And of course TLC will no doubt edit the tape to look like whatever they want it to look like. There is no interest in their reality world to continue filming these children, not when they can film a Duggar engagment in Nepal, a little people trip to CA, or another season of the Amish.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin said...
State and community colleges certainly aren't that much) and by encouraging his helplessness and "stuck" idea unless there is a "miracle". That's nonsense.
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If this kid was MIT smart, than wouldn't the high school counselor have been helping him? He would probably have scored very highly on the PSAT and SAT tests. That would have brought him to the attention of a counselor.

If he is the first generation to attend college in his family, that will also help with admissions and financial aid. I don't agree with just handing out a check--far better to get him with an experienced counselor to help him to navigate the application process.

sparkle said...

Turtle Logic said... 35
Legally speaking, how does one enforce a NDA or CA on a child? The parent signs the form, not the child.
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I will hazard a guess and say those argreements are more about silencing the adults who stay rather than kids. For the bounce house party it looked like all the parents stayed. That was smack in the middle of teachergate and Jon's clubbing spree.

For that last filmed party where they had some of it in the garage apt., didn't some of the moms stay for poolside pampering? The "pamperer" was surely the long-suffering Deanna. "If you're my friend you better be working! clap clap!!"

AuntieAnn said...

I wish there was a way to do it without the competition aspect judged arbitrarily by Rachael. Of course she gives the grand prize to the dog lady over the foster mother, Rachael loves dogs. But why was the dog person "better"? I don't get that.

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The Food Network is really grasping at straws these days. It's all competition-based programs. Why not just tell their stories in a human interest format and leave it at that? Or split the $12K among the three, or give them all $10K if need be? Altruism is a level playing field.

getofftwitter said...

So, Kate could not have taken the kids to a real circus? Or one of those places that Kendra took them to, or skating, or amusement parks, other local things. Oh, I forgot, the kids will cause a riot. And Kate does not play good with other locals. Kate would need about 1 adult for each child. I guess TLC is holding the purse & script, this time, and no special birthday trips, very low key. Maybe trying the angle of normal birthday party.

When I was 10, it was sleep overs, or it would be a pool party. When my niece was 10 it was the arcade type places, Great America or that type of parks, the places made for birthday parties. Heck, I even remember Mickydees, having parties at their places.

Kate, can not call herself: I'm just like all the rest of the moms. The rest of us, can't afford, trips for our kids, much less a vacation every year. And get special treatment at these places. We have birthday parties at party places, if we can afford them or just have a party at home, usually with family, that means relatives, some friends. The party is usually, cake, food, opening presents then let the kids play, parents talk. Kate has to make a big production out of it. Low key Kate, they are not 4-5 anymore. I'm sure Kate will be the queen drama queen. But, I guess she has to, cause after all it is being filmed.

Millicent said...

I didn't watch The Tip, so I appreciate Admin's brief recap here. I agree regarding the kid who needed money to go to college. While $10,000 (or whatever they gave him) is a lot of money, it's not going to even cover his first year in college. How will he come up with the rest of the money needed for that first year? And if he does, what happens when he wants to return for a 2nd year, and has to drop out instead because there's no magical "tip" of another ten grand?

Too bad they didn't actually show a practical, realistic route to paying for a college education that would not only have benefited the young man on the show, but also any prospective college students watching the show.

Real, practical help would be better, but it would require more involvement, more research, and probably isn't considered "sexy" enough for a tv show. Which is a real shame.

Sad but true said...

AuntieAnn said... 38
Wouldn't that just be like Kate to sue a 10-year-old party guest for spilling the beans. That would finish her for good.

Ohhh, if only.

Millicent said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 29

It would be really awesome if everyone local banded together and decided they weren't going to participate in filming. That means no kids going to birthday parties, no Michaels and coffee shops opening their doors to cameras, etc.
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I wish the same thing. Unfortunately, I bet corporate headquarters is the one that decides whether filming will be allowed (in the case of Michael's or Starbucks, etc.), and unfortunately, practically no corporation will turn down the opportunity for their brand to be showcased on tv.

But at least locally-owned businesses could (and should) say no to any more filming on their premises.

Formerly Duped said...

There were very few guests at the tea party/Lego party the tups had, was it last year, or the year before? I wonder if it's hard to round up kids whose parents would want them to attend?

Mel said...

Why would you expose your child to a parent who is constantly verbally abusing her children in front of everyone?

And thus why my dd refuses to have anything to do with my son/his family. The dil is perfectly, disgustingly charming to her little nieces, but dd doesn't want her girls exposed to the ugly way dil treats her own children.

It's even hard for *me* to be exposed to it.

getofftwitter said...

I was just over at TLC Facebook, and I have to laugh at Kates loyal twisted fans. Several said, people should mind their own business as to how Kate runs her household. OK, then if we should all mind our own business about what Kate does in her house, then why is Kate making her business our business(hanging her dirty laundry out for the world to see) by being on TV. If she and her looney fans don't want people to criticize her, then keep you(Kate), your kids, and your dirty laundry/life/business off TV.

Jeanne said...

I had a thought. Are they real friends at the party? Or does she hire actors to make the CA easier? A child actor can't go back to the kids' school and blab. I wonder about these poor kids and friends. For at least some of them, they probably have trouble making friends. She tries so hard to infantilize them, to teach them to tattle, to teach them that everyone is out to get them. She allows them to hit each other. I hope each child has at least one good friend outside the family but I wonder.

This is from someone who had terrible trouble making friends as a child (and I still do) and I didn't have those disadvantages.

Call Me Crazy said...

It would be really awesome if everyone local banded together and decided they weren't going to participate in filming. That means no kids going to birthday parties, no Michaels and coffee shops opening their doors to cameras, etc.
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That would be awesome, but unfortunately money talks. Plenty of businesses couldn't care less about something as "trivial" as child exploitation, so they will jump on any opportunity to make a quick buck.

As far as no kids going to the birthday parties, it would be a minor inconvenience for a production company to hire some kid actors to play the guests. What's a little subterfuge in the world of reality TV?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

But lots of businesses big and small have taken a stand on various issues before even if it meant loss of money and publicity. Plus it's TLC how much could they possibly be paying. Moreover one of the businesses was Michaels. One missed little appearance isn't going to make a shred of difference to a corporation that size.

Call Me Crazy said...

Jeanne - I see you and I had the same thought about hiring kid actors.

JR said...

Halle Berry ordered to pay her Ex husband from years ago child support (16,000 thousand a month) even though they have joint custody....I think I heard that right....there ya go Kate fans..anything is possible..

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I disagree, corporations turn down product placements all the time. Which is why we so frequently see brand names blurred out on reality shows. Especially on more unsavory shows found on networks like MTV. I do agree though it was probably corporate who made the decision.

Call Me Crazy said...

But lots of businesses big and small have taken a stand on various issues before even if it meant loss of money and publicity.
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Completely agree, but the issues businesses are willing to take a stand against are usually pretty high profile, like racism and human rights violations for example. Unfortunately, exploitation of kids in reality TV is not particularly high on the list of things that get people's blood boiling (present company excluded).

Vanessa said...

It would be really awesome if everyone local banded together and decided they weren't going to participate in filming.

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So true admin, but I think there's an epidemic going on that people crave their 15 mins. Right behind tfw there's another child exploiter ready to take her place. Dance Moms?

Vanessa said...

The kicker was that the celebs with their children had no idea the party was going to be filmed. Now they refuse to attend any future birthday parties. 


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See this is exactly what I mean. They took a stand. 
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But those were celeb parents, not middle America parents. Not saying that I don''t think a huge majority wouldn't take a stand, just more likely to find accomodating parents ie, Yes! I'll sign! So my kid will be on teevee??!!

Vanessa said...

. He and his aunt had a very victim mentality and it rubbed me the wrong way.

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Didnt watch but wondering if production wanted that slant? It seems to be the formula for a lot of the "do good" reality shows.
undercover boss
extreme weight loss

AuntieAnn said...

JR said... 54

Halle Berry ordered to pay her Ex husband from years ago child support (16,000 thousand a month) even though they have joint custody..

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ouch. That won't sit well with her Highness Narc Halle.

Vanessa said...

JR? Was this a step child? She only has one biological child with that gorgeous Canadian model. And they were never married. Good on her, she and tfw would make great friends.

Sad but true said...

Halle Berry was never married to Gabriel Audry, and the $16K/mth is actually a reduction from the $20K per month that Audry was originally awarded. Supposedly, it's so high because of the need for "protection" for their child when she's with him. As well as for all the perqs that go with being born to a mother whose estimated net worth is north of $70 million (!).

JR said...

@61...It was for the child they had together...the little girl named Nola...and she has to pay all of his legal fees..

Anonymous said...

Admin, it's my opinion that companies aren't turning down product placement due to the negative connotations of a particular show. I'm more inclined to think that they simply aren't willing to pay to have their product on a low rated program. The ROI wouldn't be worth it.

As to the "guests" at any parties, if you've ever watched My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding, you'll see plenty of clever camera angles that make it seem like a big crowd, but if you pay attention, you'll realize that most of the time, there's hardly anyone there. I'm convince that the June/SugarBear commitment ceremony had people brought in off the street to be seat warmers. A lot of the folks were dressed very casually and seemed to be rubbernecking more than anything.

Ah, the "magic" of television.

PJ

foxy said...

Halle is paying her former boyfriend, the Canadian model, $16,000 per month. It was $20,000 per month. They have an adorable daughter, I think she is 6 years old. She is married to a French actor Olivier something now and has a baby boy with him. Britney Spears has been paying $20,000 to Kevin Federline since they got divorced years ago. This is really nothing new. I work with a woman who pays child support so it does happen to anyone.

Winsomeone said...

The previews show Kate in long, full, flowing locks. Then we see her in that fairly small pink wig. What I want to know, is how she managed to get all of that hair that is supposedly her own, under that wig?

AuntieAnn said...

As to the "guests" at any parties, if you've ever watched My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding, you'll see plenty of clever camera angles that make it seem like a big crowd, but if you pay attention, you'll realize that most of the time, there's hardly anyone there.

Ah, the "magic" of television.

PJ

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They should have used that magic trick at the Gosselin's Big Fat Lie of a vow renewal. There was just a smattering of attendees at both the ceremony and the reception. It was pathetic.

Formerly Duped said...

I have seen bits and pieces of those Big Fat Gypsy shows. Who are these people? They are not 'real' Romani people. Why do they have that outlandish style and feuds and drama? The term gypsy is considered derogatory by many these days.

Anonymous said...

So Halle must pay Gabriel Child support? Good for him. Halle would never be TFMJG's friend, she petitioned the courts to keep the Papparazi away from celeb kids, with Julia Roberts I believe.

Halle filmed one street away from here , met her. Talk about aloof. OYE

franky

Rhymes with Witch said...

June/SugarBear commitment ceremony had people brought in off the street to be seat warmers. 64

I remember reading that something similar was done for the G's renewal ceremony in Hawaii.

Rhymes with Witch said...

They should have used that magic trick at the Gosselin's Big Fat Lie of a vow renewal. 67

I honestly think they did - that"s why there was anyone there at all

Jeanne said...

Call Me Crazy, I think I have to say Jinx since we wrote the same thing at the same time.

There's so much fake/lies/tv manipulation going on. Those poor kids. I bet they'd love an unfancy party if it was given with love. My birthday is soon. Even though I'm well into adulthood, my mom still makes my favorite dessert and my nieces will give me love. That's better than a circus.

Granny from Nebraska said...

I did not see the Big Tip but college does not cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I had three children graduate in the same year from state schools and I did not pay anything for them and they did not take out loans. They earned scholarships and worked during their college years.
Many students work during college. It is not unusual.
Where was his high school counselor that he did not tell him the many avenues open to him?
Another choice is a military academy which is free and you have a job for the next six years after you graduate. It can be done.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Another school shooting, this one in Troutville, Oregon. At least one student and the shooter dead. First report.

Will it ever end?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Taylor LaRose ‏@LaRoseTay 2h
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC I am beyond excited to see the greatest comeback ever! June 19th can't get here fast enough.

I wonder what will happen to these people who believe that Kate is making a "comeback?" Will there lives be worthless? Will they sink into deep depression? Will they require intense therapy?

I do hope they let us know.

NJGal51 said...

Milo tweeted the following (yesterday) and has only had 5 retweets. TFW's timeline seems to be pretty quiet today. She'd better buy some more twitterbots so people will think someone cares about the update show.

@MiloandJack: Hey @Kateplusmy8 Let's SHOUT IT...CROW ABOUT IT...TWEET IT & REPEAT IT >>> @TLC special Gosselin family update June 19 & 26th 10pmEST!

chefsummer #Leh said...

AuntieAnn said... 38
Wouldn't that just be like Kate to sue a 10-year-old party guest f
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Of course she would sue a kid.

She tried going after Jon and Robert and the haters I even bet if one or all of the kids fall out of line she'd sue them.

Blowing In The Wind said...

The party is usually, cake, food, opening presents then let the kids play, parents talk. Kate has to make a big production out of it.

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Many birthday parties aren't like that anymore. It's not only Kate. It's become a competition to see who can spend the most and have the best and most amazing party in the class. A case of not only keeping up with the Joneses, but outdoing them.

Millicent said...

Formerly Duped said... 68

I have seen bits and pieces of those Big Fat Gypsy shows. Who are these people? They are not 'real' Romani people. Why do they have that outlandish style and feuds and drama? The term gypsy is considered derogatory by many these days.
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I've seen bits and pieces too, and am always horrified by the whole thing. I also wonder - do Romani only live to be about 35 or so? Because they never show anyone older than that on the show. Of course, I'm sure there are Romani of all ages.

On one show, there was some big dance or get-together for young singles who supposedly came from all over the country. One girl, aged 14, has an online romance with a Romani guy; they meet up at the dance; her mom finds him and his family crass and loud (imagine that!) and won't let her daughter go off with the family the next day. Daughter freaks out and says her mom has ruined her life. Oh my god - the over the top drama and the barrenness of their lives is depressing.

Formerly Duped said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 71

They should have used that magic trick at the Gosselin's Big Fat Lie of a vow renewal. 67

I honestly think they did - that"s why there was anyone there at all
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It was so obvious! Wouldn't relatives from 'back home' be asked and have their bill footed by TLC if there was anyone left to ask! I wondered why none of Kate's siblings, nieces/nephews, friends or Jon's relatives other than the elderly lady attend? I guess I still had a glimmer of hope that things could be 'fixed' although it was so easy to tel lit was a sham ceremony. The extras looked so out of place and like they were at a stranger's wedding , which they were!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Speaking of big tips (almost typed "tits," can't get that clown photo of Kate out of my mind), here's a story about a Waffle House waitress. Some interesting comments/perspectives on this. She was interviewed on tv today.

https://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/shaina-brown-1000-tip-raleigh-waffle-house-waitress-162409760.html

Oh, and by the way, Gladys, Mob Wives has replaced Kate as "trending" today.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I forgot to mention...Sandra Bullock's stalker, according to TMZ, was not inside her house to burglarize it. He had a machine gun. He wanted a "face to face" with her.

Millicent said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 55

I disagree, corporations turn down product placements all the time. Which is why we so frequently see brand names blurred out on reality shows.
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I agree that sometimes, certain brands won't pay for advertising to have their product displayed on a tv show, probably because they think the expense isn't worth the possible return.

But in order to film in a certain location, the production company usually pays for that privilege - not the other way around. So that's why I said it was unlikely for a corporation to turn down a request that a segment of a show be filmed at one of their establishments. (As long as neither the segment or the overall show are highlighting that business in any sort of a negative way.) For them, it would likely be seen as a win-win.

AuntieAnn said...

I honestly think they did - that"s why there was anyone there at all

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I guess the throng of relatives excited to meet Kate at the renewal must have been tied up in traffic. So they had to hire passers-by. Got it.

Over And Out said...

The one that the non-fans call Zippy tweeted that TLC added a second show because there is such a demand for it, posting the times for June 19 at 10 p.m. and June 25 at 9 p.m.

These sheeple are going to be in such a frenzy,..a total dither trying to figure out when and what time these shows are airing. This is too funny.

Anonymous said...

Kelly...200

You have made me miss Mr. King. No one writes stories like he does. Gerald's Game had me riveted, although had trouble with finishing the Towers series. Off to dust off my books and re-read, we always see something new, they never get old.

thanks again!

franky

njay said...

Anonymous said... 199
I think Kreider "ruined her dramatic silence" in that clip. M had something witty to say and she got sent out of the room. That's why M said, "You don't trust me." IMO of course.

PJ
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Thanks PJ, you said it perfect. I kept stumbling over my words trying to say the same thing. Good Job.

njay said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 70
June/SugarBear commitment ceremony had people brought in off the street to be seat warmers. 64
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I am not convinced, though I don't have proof, I don't think they got married. I think it was all a farce for a few episodes. June never would even discuss the "M" word. She even said one episode that "why buy the cow when the milk is free." It was just all too weird, calling it a commitment service and all. To me, the word commitment is not as binding as marriage.

I don't know how to look up marriage licenses but I'd sure like to see one. Yes it is none of my business. I am just curious. I'm not losing sleep over it though, and it doesn't consume my mind. I just don't think it happened.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, njay..87

I'm not always able to express my thoughts succinctly, by I do think I'm pretty good at reading people. And I'm humble too. ;>)

PJ

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Can somebody tell me why Kate was trending on twitter in the past few days. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Leslie..88

not sure, but am thinking because they are twitteriots? or is that twitterits?

Regardless of the term, there is no comprehending sheeple, they bleat to their own beat.

hope I helped

sorry

franky

foxy said...

Mama June and Sugar Bear are not married. They just made a commitment to each other without being legally binding. If they split, there is no divorce and no big lawyer bills.

Anonymous said...

completely OT

Dd just went with BFF to her ex-BF,s to gather her stuff.

This is why I freak inside.

She made it out ok and all is good. Not my dd, her bff, who also lives in my heart.

Since Saturday I am double-guessing everything. Maybe a brown-belt is not enough, is her character strong enough?
Did I show her what respect looks and feels like?
Did I do enough?

franky

PA Dutch Mom said...

CJWhodunit ‏@CJWhodunit 10m
@Amberwinborn @Kateplusmy8 When the biological father doesn't pay a DIME in child support, single moms have to provide for kids! #KateTimes8

They don't get it, do they? There is nothing one can say or do to drum it into their thick heads that if Kate wanted child support, all she needs to do is to go to court and ask for it...let the judge figure out the finances, what Jon has already paid, and calculate accordingly if she is entitled to it. Child support laws in PA are not that difficult. There is a procedure to follow, and Kate, as a divorced mother, would be most certainly be permitted to ask for support if she is piecing and patching as she claims. Of course, she'd have to disclose her current financial situation, and when asking for support, she most likely would have to lay on the table how much piecing and patching she is doing, with three luxury cars (and she is the only driver), private school, a large house with a pool, etc., and maybe she doesn't want to do that. I've seen it happen that in order to get support, the judge will order to live within your means and you are not entitled to the lifestyle you had while married.. and that may mean downsizing. If Kate isn't worried about it, why are these sheeple so hell bent out of shape about it? It's not their concern.

Speaking of piecing and patching. I watched the Hillary Clinton interview and she used the term "piecing," said they were bankrupt and in debt when they left the White House. However, a commentator noted that Bill received 100 million in speaking engagements, and she had a multi-million dollar book deal on the table. He said, "Well, I guess that's "piecing" to some people, but for the rest of us..."

Anonymous said...

Oh CRAP! I forgot to thank you Njay!...your posts rock and I am sorry, thought I did but maybe post numbers changed, they do thT SOMETIMES.

I AM SO SORRY

FRANKY

and now I am yelling, dang caps lock! xoxox

Anonymous said...

PJ!!!!! I meant PJ!!!

franky

Over And Out said...

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@bitemeaholesfu her brilliant observations continue @kateplusmy8 must be so proud of her fans. LOL! pic.twitter.com/rhcsyvnnJ2

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This is hysterically funny. I was thinking about which one of the sheeple is really the dumbest, slowest, whatever, and I think I just got the answer.
Apparently this one doesn't know that Exhibits have letters, such as Exhibit A, Exhibit B, etc. I guess the "E" threw her off! LOL!

Can you imagine going through life being this dumb and then announcing it on Twitter?

AuntieAnn said...

Anonymous said... 90

(Leslie)
Can somebody tell me why Kate was trending on twitter in the past few days. Thanks

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Because she made an ass of herself (again) by berating and humiliating Mady on the clip that People.com put online.

Gladys was so excited Kate was trending that she started tweeting in tongue.

njay said...

Has anyone who saw the clown clip noticed that while in the store Kate said "maybe a clown will show up" and one of the girl tups said with passion "please, no"?

Oh, remember the first circus party? The next birthday after that one, Kate said she wanted to do the circus theme again but the tups just wanted it to be with family. This just goes to show you that the kids wants for their b/day comes second.

PJ's momma said...

njay, I thought Kate said in that clip, "I could be the clown" and THEN the girl gave her an impassioned NOOOOOOO.

Tucker's Mom said...

Speaking of piecing and patching. I watched the Hillary Clinton interview and she used the term "piecing," said they were bankrupt and in debt when they left the White House. However, a commentator noted that Bill received 100 million in speaking engagements, and she had a multi-million dollar book deal on the table. He said, "Well, I guess that's "piecing" to some people, but for the rest of us..."
June 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM
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I went OT about this yesterday.
This just infuriated me.
Hill and Bill might have been eyeball deep in debt after his 8 YEAR presidency, but for the love of everything that's holy, this woman actually sat there and cried about her bills and buying a house and sending their ONE kid to college.
Sorry to bitch about it again, but it was just so damn out of touch and callous, frankly.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Njay (#99), what stood out for me from that birthday carnival
episode was when TFW said they should do it again next year
and CHARGE people!

I also remember her cutting up tickets and reminiscing about how "skinny" Jon used to be, and wishing he could go back to being that guy. Then she quickly added something like, "for his own sake."
Um, yeah.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't stand the Clintons. Haven't since I was a child. Voters need to ask themselves whether someone this out of touch is someone who should be representing their needs.

Anonymous said...

OH, ewww, eye bleach please

found this when googling her royal heinious

http://www.justjared.com/2010/06/04/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-8-premiere-sneak-peek/

ewww....will keep looking for link I missed, we ARE CANADIAN, WE CAN DO THIS

in case, please reserve some eye-bleach

I am begging you

franky

Anonymous said...

Sorry, cannot do it, I searched for clip, got eye-bleach worthy footage instead.

If someone will post link I will watch. But NO ONE can make me go thropuigh that again.

I thought Google was ,my friend

franky

Rhythm Of Life said...

"Child support laws in PA are not that difficult. There is a procedure to follow, and Kate, as a divorced mother, would be most certainly be permitted to ask for support if she is piecing and patching as she claims. Of course, she'd have to disclose her current financial situation, and when asking for support..."

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Is there no one among them who can understand this? I mean, they can't all be morons, can they? I just don't get what is so very difficult to grasp about child support/Kate/Jon and that this is a private issue among the parents and the court.

Unless, of course, it's a deflection. It's all Jon's fault. Everything is his fault. If Kate comes across as being a deranged pink clown on this special, they'll blame him for choosing the nose and wig and forcing her to wear it.

Carole said...

Re: support. If Kate isn't worried about it, why are these sheeple so hell bent out of shape about it? It's not their concern.

It's their battle cry. They have no defense for TFW putting the kids back on tv, her bad behavior on the clips released, etc so they fall back to the only thing they think some people may care about. It's too bad their argument is old, worn out, and undefendable.

These recent tweets said the same thing:

@BarbaraJean_s
@SockieWhodunit Sheep dirtying up Jon Gosselin 2 make Kate Gosselin look like the wholesome, clean, hard-working one has failed miserably

‏@Sassccha
@BarbaraJean_s @SockieWhodunit Trying to dirty him up but not succeeding; using tired old irrelevant gossip soiling themselves. #kateplusmy8

Unknown said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 94
....''There is a procedure to follow, and Kate, as a divorced mother, would be most certainly be permitted to ask for support if she is piecing and patching as she claims. Of course, she'd have to disclose her current financial situation, and when asking for support, she most likely would have to lay on the table how much piecing and patching she is doing, with three luxury cars (and she is the only driver), private school, a large house with a pool, etc., and maybe she doesn't want to do that. I've seen it happen that in order to get support, the judge will order to live within your means and you are not entitled to the lifestyle you had while married.. and that may mean downsizing.''.....
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I think that you've hit on the EXACT reason that TCFMJG has no intention of ever asking Jon for support! In fact, now I'm wondering if that is actually the reason she agreed to no support. Something to think about.

njay said...

PJ's momma said... 100
njay, I thought Kate said in that clip, "I could be the clown" and THEN the girl gave her an impassioned NOOOOOOO.
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PJ and Franky, thank you for your kind complements.

PJ, you could be absolutely right. It happens so fast that I have a hard time hearing exactly what she is saying. The bottom line is that once again she is going to embarrass her kids by not listening to them.
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I AM SO SORRY

FRANKY
Franky, I'm not sure what you are saying sorry for. I have seen nothing for me to be upset at. Thanks though. Your good people for sure. In fact, most here are.

Anonymous said...

Rythm of Life said...

Is there no one among them who can understand this? I mean, they can't all be morons, can they?

88888888888888888888888888

Yes, yes they can.

PJ

Carole said...

But in order to film in a certain location, the production company usually pays for that privilege - not the other way around. So that's why I said it was unlikely for a corporation to turn down a request that a segment of a show be filmed at one of their establishments.

I disagree. For quick shoots like TFW doing a little shopping in a store or sitting down for a simple lunch, it's actually unusual for the establishment to request pay and it's not usually offered or paid. The use of a location is typically reimbursed by giving a clear shot of the name of the business and/or a mention in the credits "thanks to...". If the store doesn't want the publicity but still permits filming on their premises you'll not see it's name. Location costs are usually not part of the budget for reality shows since "payment" is worked out without money changing hands.

Rhythm Of Life said...

Rythm of Life said...

Is there no one among them who can understand this? I mean, they can't all be morons, can they?

88888888888888888888888888

Yes, yes they can.

PJ

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How is that possible? LOL!!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Unless, of course, it's a deflection. It's all Jon's fault. Everything is his fault. If Kate comes across as being a deranged pink clown on this special, they'll blame him for choosing the nose and wig and forcing her to wear it. 107

It helps if you realize that it's a July.

Anonymous said...

Rhythm Of Life said... 112
Rythm of Life said...

Is there no one among them who can understand this? I mean, they can't all be morons, can they?

88888888888888888888888888

Yes, yes they can.

PJ

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How is that possible? LOL!!

8888888888888888888888888888888

Too many chemicals in the sheep dip.

PJ

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

They just cannot grasp that it is on Kate and Kate alone to address the child support she receives or does not receive. If she is not happy with the situation it is her responsibility to address it. It is HER support for HER kids.

If they have some issue with the arrangements they need to address it with KATE, not Jon. They just don't get it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well exactly Remona.

Kate more or less has the upper hand so it's risky to go back to court and try to rock the boat. After all if she starts asking for support Jon might turn right around and start asking for his own requests, like more custody or whatever.

Classic family law tactic. If you push, the other side pushes back. Family law 101. Lay low when the going is good: family law 101.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I disagree. For quick shoots like TFW doing a little shopping in a store or sitting down for a simple lunch, it's actually unusual for the establishment to request pay and it's not usually offered or paid.

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I was wondering this. I know this is true for a movie and I see signs all over L.A. offering shooting locations for sale.

But for a little production I can't imagine they'd have the budget to make big payouts all the time. There's just no way that all the tiny little productions I see all the time could afford to do a payout all the time.

Say the payout was a small two or three grand or nothing. Why the heck would Michaels care about that? That's like two cents to a huge company like them.

I think it's people not doing their research, frankly. I can see some PR person at Michaels saying oh yeah I've seen that show once with the multiples sure why not a win win. And not even bothering to google to see the controversy.

lukebandit said...

Well, franky, you warned me. lol

Did you read some of those comments? hahaha

Someone said that kate looked great that she saw no scars or cellulite! hahaha

I posted the reason why that was because her scars and the cellulite were entombed in the Orange Co. CA landfill. Bwahahaha

Makes me ill about Bill and Hill. Hilary saying they were dead broke. If they were so dead broke then why did their political friends all pitch in and help them piece and patch a 165 million dollar Presidential library in Arkansas. Why didn't they just buy them a couple of buggy's full of groceries and pay their light bill?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 113
Unless, of course, it's a deflection. It's all Jon's fault. Everything is his fault. If Kate comes across as being a deranged pink clown on this special, they'll blame him for choosing the nose and wig and forcing her to wear it. 107

It helps if you realize that it's a July.
June 10, 2014 at 5:14 PM
Anonymous said... 114
Rhythm Of Life said... 112
Rythm of Life said...

Is there no one among them who can understand this? I mean, they can't all be morons, can they?

88888888888888888888888888

Yes, yes they can.

PJ

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How is that possible? LOL!!

8888888888888888888888888888888

Too many chemicals in the sheep dip.

PJ
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Plus they follow Kate Gosselin and they believes everything she say's and tweets.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Classic family law tactic. If you push, the other side pushes back. Family law 101. Lay low when the going is good: family law 101.

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In other words, don't poke the sleeping bear.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In other words, don't poke the sleeping bear.


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Right. Look what happened when she sued Jon. All it did was give him publicity. While he gave a few bad interviews, he also had a few darn good ones. Like Wendy Williams, where he came across very sympathetic. He also got an entire season on a reality show, which was more than Kate could say at the time. Arguably, the publicity she gave him helped launch that. And the whole thing really backfired on her, there were very few people supporting the move.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Unless, of course, it's a deflection. It's all Jon's fault. Everything is his fault. If Kate comes across as being a deranged pink clown on this special, they'll blame him for choosing the nose and wig and forcing her to wear it.


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Yes of course it's a deflection.

No one is bringing up child support but them. It's completely irrelevant to the current discussion and the only reason to bring it up is to distract.

They KNOW this special is a bit risky, so they need to throw out a bunch of poo as much as possible as soon as possible to distract from any bad behavior that is sure to show up in the special.

I can't believe the lengths they go to for an utter stranger. Good soldiers.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I can't believe the lengths they go to for an utter stranger. Good soldiers.
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No wonder why they make good sheep.

Serendipity said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 8m
@Kateplusmy8 What cute dynamics 4ur kids 2b able 2invite friends 2come on over& watch our #FamilySpecial on @TLC! What a unique life 4them!

Good lord, Gladys, just get a room. I'm sure your honey will pay for it.

#TeamDrizzi ‏@lovelysprouts 11m
15 more days and then I get to see the kiddos that I grew up with. #pumped #kateplus8 #excited @Kateplusmy8

lol! Fifteen days and you will have missed it! I guess math really isn't her best subject.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this before but the best advice I ever got was never be more passionate about your client's case (or whatever) than your client is. The point of that is if you get lost in being so passionate about the cause you can easily lose sight of what your client really wants. Maybe they don't want this as much as you do. It's about being in tune with your client.

The sheeple are much more passionate and worked up about this child support than Kate is. When is the last time she even MENTIONED it? If she is not worked up they should not be. Never fight someone's battle harder than they are.

JoyinVirginia said...

News Flash! TFMJG and crew special is getting no print ad support in TV Guide magazine. I got my issue in the mail today, covers June 16-29. No ads for TLC at all. Lots of articles about new series on this summer, series cooking back.
ONLY mention of TFMJG is on listings grid for Thursday 6/19: ”Kate Plus 8: Part 1 of a two-part special”
Grid on Thursday June 26: ”Kate.Plus 8: Conclusion of a two-part special”
That is IT folks. No featured article, no print ads, no mention in the highlights for the day.
Lots of ads for ABC Family especially Mystery Girls with Tori Spelling and Jennie Garth, ad for a country music cruise in January and a classic R&B cruise in February, promotion for TNT and ABC shows.
Minimal money spent on production. Minimal promotion and minimal advertising outside tlc itself. Being placed at ten pm after the Honey Boo Boo episodes is the biggest promotion tlc is doing for TFMJG

silimom said...

"He also got an entire season on a reality show, which was more than Kate could say at the time. Arguably, the publicity she gave him helped launch that. And the whole thing really backfired on her, there were very few people supporting the move."

Not only that, but didn't she put the twins on Today right after he had finished CT? Just another way it backfired.

Loved this quote from Radaronline:
“Meanwhile, Kate and the kids are happy filming and being able to afford all the necessities of raising eight children; food, bills, clothes, education, athletics, etc.”

Which of course makes it sound like they were destitute and homeless prior to the special being filmed.

PatK said...

Hey Milo, guess what?

YOU aren't invited to watch the special in the Gosselin home with the Gosselins.

Bwah.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Ah, yes, the "cute dynamics" of having friends over to watch
your shrew of a mother make fun of you on national TV!
#SuperFunPublicShaming! It's unique all right...

Serendipity said...

Kate took the twins (and a friend) to see The Fault Is In Our Stars. Milo, in his/her wisdom, tweets:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 40m
@Kateplusmy8 Oh no...a tear jerker! Please tell me it has a #HappyEnding though b4 we go! I have enuf stuff making me blue....

Milo, this is a film about two young adults with cancer who are in love. What in the heck do you suppose happens in the end? Think about it.

foxy said...

OT....
I just watched Amy Dugger's new TLC show. That poor girl cannot sing, she has no stage presence and to be honest, it was quite painful to watch. I can just see one of the G kids trying to take Nashville or Disney. This will never happen.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh that film looks sweet. For once the kids are doing something much more adult and certainly age appropriate.

They need to see films like this not cartoons with their baby brothers and sisters.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@Kateplusmy8 Even if its customary 4some kids 2go 2bed earlier..I think the AWESOME EVENT of a Gosselin update @TLC is worth staying up for!

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In all seriousness, there is something terrible wrong with this person, unless he/she/it is a catfish and has thus far been pretty darn good doing the "job" for the person or persons who hired him/her/it.

I hope Robert knows who it is and a "reveal" will be forthcoming.

NJGal51 said...
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ten is really late for many kids, even during summer. And like you said things are different now and kids have summer camp, sports, etc all summer long. Or if mom and dad work they have to get up and head to daycare/babysitters.

Face it, it was "dumped" in the 10 o'clock slot as filler, Milo.

NJGal51 said...

According to Milo the 10 PM start time is not too late because its summer and families just naturally stay up later. Never mind that people have to get up to go to work the next day and kids do have to get up to go to day camp or various other activities. Will TFW be having a giant slumber party in her room? After all, her kids will be staying up to watch and they'll have friends over to share in the humiliation.

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Hey @Kateplusmy8 Let's SHOUT IT...CROW ABOUT IT...TWEET IT & REPEAT IT >>> @TLC special Gosselin family update June 19 & 26th 10pmEST!

Shortnsaszy @Shortnsaszy
@MiloandJack @Snotty_Girl @Kateplusmy8 @TLC I didnt know there were 2 of them. Funny its a family show & they put it on at 10. Kid watch too

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Shortnsaszy @Snotty_Girl @Kateplusmy8 @TLC Its SUMMERTIME! Kids R on vacation & probably won't be a big deal 2stay up a bit later! :)

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @Shortnsaszy @Snotty_Girl @TLC I know MY kids will be up...&will prob have some of their friends here too!:) #familyTVnight

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 What cute dynamics 4ur kids 2b able 2invite friends 2come on over& watch our #FamilySpecial on @TLC! What a unique life 4them!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Qᴜᴀɢᴍɪʀᴇ Aᴍᴇʀɪᴄᴀ ™ ‏@QuagmireAmerica 20m
I would like to thank @Kateplusmy8 for speaking with me on the phone tonight, It was an honor. Thank you Kate for your kinds words.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 4m
@QuagmireAmerica uh, sorry. My phone didn't ring and I didn't speak to anyone on the phone .. Not me ... Wrong number? Faker? #notme

Maybe it was Gladys who answered the phone!

chefsummer #Leh said...

"He also got an entire season on a reality show, which was more than Kate could say at the time. Arguably, the publicity she gave him helped launch that. And the whole thing really backfired on her, there were very few people supporting the move."
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Yes I'm sure Jon was so happy that the world knew his ex-wife was suing him and they she wasn't letting him see his children.

That had to be soooo much fun for Jon.-(not)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Qᴜᴀɢᴍɪʀᴇ Aᴍᴇʀɪᴄᴀ ™ ‏@QuagmireAmerica 20m
I would like to thank @Kateplusmy8 for speaking with me on the phone tonight, It was an honor. Thank you Kate for your kinds words.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 4m
@QuagmireAmerica uh, sorry. My phone didn't ring and I didn't speak to anyone on the phone .. Not me ... Wrong number? Faker? #notme



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Haha. It's a radio show that does parodies. He was probably being facetious. TFW, idiot. Will this air tonight??? Ha!

From their site "Our Radio shows do many parodies of many individuals, all of which are done by anonymous actors doing voiceover bits."

Millicent said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 125

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this before but the best advice I ever got was never be more passionate about your client's case (or whatever) than your client is. The point of that is if you get lost in being so passionate about the cause you can easily lose sight of what your client really wants. Maybe they don't want this as much as you do. It's about being in tune with your client.
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It's good to be a strong advocate for your client and present the strongest case possible, but as you point out, if an attorney or other advocate gets too involved, they may lose the ability to see or accept a "best outcome" result.

In a similar vein, I have had a couple telephone calls with a legal assistant in another firm - they are one side of the case, and our office is the other. She is a very nice woman, but she is excitable and wants to argue the merits of the case with me, when that is neither of our jobs. I told her today that I don't get involved in the merits of the case - that's the attorney's job, not mine. I hope the message sunk in.

Milo's brain has got stuck in a groove and it can't seem to get out of that rut. 10:00 p.m. is not a vaunted time slot for a "family" show, even in the summer. TLC did not feel that a "where are they now" show about TFW and the long-suffering 8 was worth an 8:00 or even 9:00 p.m. slot. And that says it all.

NJGal51 said...

And then there's this...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 I know this 2hr spec. required alot on ur part..kids just got 2b kids so was fun 4them! But could U handle a reg. show again?

@Kateplusmy8: @MiloandJack yeah. We sure could. Fell back into the routine like old times. It's our normal! #fun

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Milo must be in Seventh Heaven tonight. Kate has been answering her tweets.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 13m
@eddiethehead101 yep..you're about to see how good things are... June 19&26 at 10pm on @TLC #GrowingUpGosselin

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 13m
@Kateplusmy8 I know this 2hr spec. required alot on ur part..kids just got 2b kids so was fun 4them! But could U handle a reg. show again?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 10m
@MiloandJack yeah. We sure could. Fell back into the routine like old times. It's our normal! #fun

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 I know this 2hr spec. required alot on ur part..kids just got 2b kids so was fun 4them! But could U handle a reg. show again?

@Kateplusmy8: @MiloandJack yeah. We sure could. Fell back into the routine like old times. It's our normal! #fun

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Sigh. Who is she kidding? She'd be a lot more credible if she'd just admit it would be tough but we'd make it work.

They did it over a weekend or two. The filming schedule was short. It's hardly giving the kids a good idea of how filming would REALLY be like if they got a series.

Not only would it be difficult for 10 and 13 year olds to work regular filming into their busy schedule but it's not normal or good for them to accommodate "filming."

Millicent said...

foxy said... 92

Mama June and Sugar Bear are not married. They just made a commitment to each other without being legally binding. If they split, there is no divorce and no big lawyer bills.
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Interesting - I guess June wasn't willing to get married, even for TLC.

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 U know folks out here can't relate...because they have never experienced what U as a family have! #WalkingInUrHappyShoes :)

Well for once I agree with Milo. Most people can't relate to the #douchebaggery that is Kate.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

They really don't give a darn about those kids. It's all about entertainment for the sheeple. So pathetic.

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Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 9m
@Kateplusmy8 That is SO NICE 2hear! Would love 4that opportunity 2come ur way again...lots of fun/learning experiences & excitement 4U& US!

chefsummer #Leh said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 U know folks out here can't relate...because they have never experienced what U as a family have! #WalkingInUrHappyShoes :)
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More like

#URHookerShoes

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Once again the myth is perpetuated - it was work for TFW, but
play and/or fun for the kids. Got it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Poor Gladys said she had "enuf stuff making her blue," but that
comment was ignored by her dear friend TFW. But once she
asked her that leading question about whether or not she'd be up
for doing the show again, those French tips went to work, and
she got an answer. Is there some loved one in this woman's
life who can gently say, "She's just not that into you?!"

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould 49s
@Kateplusmy8 have you been able to start my book yet! :) can't wait to see you back on TV! Counting down the days!! :)

It's been eight months, now. What is it that you don't understand?

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 U know folks out here can't relate...because they have never experienced what U as a family have!

Thank the lord for that. Nor would any of us want to. That would be punishment none of us deserves.

Millicent said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103

I can't stand the Clintons. Haven't since I was a child. Voters need to ask themselves whether someone this out of touch is someone who should be representing their needs.
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Well, let's face it -- most every Senator and member of the House are out of touch with the average voter, and most often don't seem to truly represent their constituents, but rather corporate interests and lobbying groups. Them's the facts. At best, we can only hope that we have a President and a Congress who might occasionally (maybe by accident?) do something that actually helps the economy, helps the average person, and stops the pell mell approach to apocolypse that we've been on for awhile.

I recall the Clinton years. My income went up, we weren't involved in endless war, and overall the country did well. Probably due to lucky timing, but I know I certainly lived well during those years. Then Bush got into office, we got into war, and he and the financial industry took us to the brink of financial disaster. So all in all - I do look back fondly at the Clinton years and with dismay at the Bush era.

So if the choice were Hillary Clinton or Chris Christie, I guess I'd vote Clinton. I'm not impressed with either one, but Christie has been shown to most definitely not have the best interests of his own constituents at heart. Withholding flood relief dollars because of politics? Sickening. And that's the tip of the iceberg there. He's got scandals on top of scandals coming out of the closet.

Plus, any Republican who wants the nomination has to at least claim that they will fight to ban all abortions and make access to birth control extremely difficult. That's a non-starter for me. I refuse to even consider a candidate who has those stated values or goals.

Who else could run on either side? I'm hoping Elizabeth Warren might consider it from the Democratic side. On the Republican side - Boehner (doubt it); Jeb Bush? I think the public has had enough Bushes in the office. Maybe Rand Paul, but would he have wide appeal?

The Tea Party Republicans are at odds with establishment Republicans, so that poses a problem for any Republican wanting to nomination for president. Will Tea Party Republicans vote for an establishment Republican, or feel disenfranchised and stay home and/or write in their choice instead?

I see that Eric Cantor lost his seat today, and he was expected to be the next Speaker of the House. A Tea Party candidate got his seat.

Sherry Baby said...

Milo's brain has got stuck in a groove and it can't seem to get out of that rut. 10:00 p.m. is not a vaunted time slot for a "family" show, even in the summer.

___________________
Brain?

OrangeCrusher1 said...

" it's our normal!"

Oh just gag me. She lives in a real lala land, the one where she really,really thinks this is heading to a new contract.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 What cute dynamics 4ur kids 2b able 2invite friends 2come on over& watch our #FamilySpecial on @TLC! What a unique life 4them!

Why is that unique? That is throwing I'm-famous-and-you-are-not in their friend's faces. I would think their friends might be a tad bit jealous to sit there on the floor and watch the 8 be TV reality 'stars' when they are just regular schleps. Kids are funny about stuff like that. Who is Kate kidding. Imagine the 6 saying want to come to my house to watch me on TV? What a turn off.

And here's that quack Milo making sure she strokes Kate's fat head. So if the kids are just being kids in front of the cameras, how is Kate's role any different? Milo, why is it work for Kate? Tell me please? You really have to ask her if she could handle another show? Are you fricking kidding me? She does eff all in front of those cameras but be an arrogant, entitled bitch. There's no script that she must study for days. That is why people can't stand her you dumbass. And your sycophancy is why I really don't care for you either Milo.

AuntieAnn said...

@Kateplusmy8: @MiloandJack yeah. We sure could. Fell back into the routine like old times. It's our normal! #fun

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Oh stop.

Fell back into the routine like old times my ass. You can bet money she served those kids a directive that they will fall into line and perform like circus seals for this taping and if they don't the punishment they'll get will be unlike any they have ever known.

She's desperately trying to reprise the good old days when freebies were filling her house, paid-for trips were a monthly occurance, ratings were high and the money was rolling in. Life was good and she can't quite grasp that the layers have been peeled back, the real Katie Gosselin has been exposed and it will never be like the good ol' days again because of it.

And if she thinks the ratings will go through the roof she's going to be disappointed. Most of her fans will have to get permission from their parents to stay up late to watch.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 What cute dynamics 4ur kids 2b able 2invite friends 2come on over& watch our #FamilySpecial on @TLC! What a unique life 4them!

Why is that unique? That is throwing I'm-famous-and-you-are-not in their friend's faces. I would think their friends might be a tad bit jealous to sit there on the floor and watch the 8 be TV reality 'stars' when they are just regular schleps. Kids are funny about stuff like that. Who is Kate kidding. Imagine the 6 saying want to come to my house to watch me on TV? What a turn off.

And here's that quack Milo making sure she strokes Kate's fat head. So if the kids are just being kids in front of the cameras, how is Kate's role any different? Milo, why is it work for Kate? Tell me please? You really have to ask her if she could handle another show? Are you fricking kidding me? She does eff all in front of those cameras but be an arrogant, entitled bitch. There's no script that she must study for days. That is why people can't stand her you dumbass. And your sycophancy is why I really don't care for you either Milo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's not an either or situation. We're not stuck with Clinton or Christie. There are primaries. There are opportunities for many other candidates to make a go at it and to look past the obvious choices and see if there might be someone else out there better. The worst thing that can happen is that we just sort of go along with who the media has crowned the front runners. I don't even know if Hillary's is going to be up to it by the time that comes. She hasn't been well.

There are many politicians who are much less out of touch than these fools. We don't have to accept this.

My family did best financially during the Reagan years. Oh well.

Sherry Baby said...

Is there some loved one in this woman's
life who can gently say, "She's just not that into you?!"

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I think they packed up during the night and headed out of there, leaving no address or contact information.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Oh just gag me. She lives in a real lala land, the one where she really,really thinks this is heading to a new contract.

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Based on her tweets I think she actually thinks it's possible she is going to get a new show if this goes well. Is she for real??

This is TLC's swan song appeasement to her to make her go away and get some quick summer filler. There is no way they are serious about even considering a new show. She's delusional.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The other thing is I"m a libertarian, so I don't base my vote on who is going to help me. I don't want a lot of governmental interference in my life and I don't believe in a lot of government regulations as far as the economy goes. I base my vote largely on who is going to keep government limited and out of our lives as much as possible. Usually that's the Republican candidate since it's very hard for a libertarian candidate to get elected. Sorry to derail it into politics, but I don't mind a discussion of that interview since it reminded me so much of so many other out of touch whiney celebrities and was really quite similar to Kate's purse full of bills tour. Of course Hillary fits right in with that silly crowd, always knew she did.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


" it's our normal!"

Oh just gag me. She lives in a real lala land, the one where she really,really thinks this is heading to a new contract.

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Yes and they haven't been filming for two years. Wouldn't that be much more normal than filming?

Plus just because it's normal to you doesn't mean it's healthy. Child abuse is normal to a lot of abused children too. Doesn't make it right. That used to drive me crazy how neglectful narcissist was out of town five days a week and working the other two. People would say well the kids are used to it, it's normal to them.

So? What does that matter? Doesn't mean it's right for them to have a very absent parent. Now the severe consequences of this neglect is readily apparent. They had a right to a different normal that their insanely selfish narcissistic parent never gave them.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT, Millicent, I an in central Virginia and have been following local news about Eric Cantor. He lost because he was more interested in playing to the national political cameras than he was untreated in finding out how people were actually doing at home. As my mama would say, he got to big for his britches. He never came home to do any kind of town hall meetings, despite many requests from constituents. Virginia has a democratic governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general, there are lots of Democrats and Independents around here, and Cantor was more interested in bring poster boy for the national Republican party than he was in hearing suggestions from constituents who think compromise is not a dirty word. And the nail in the coffin, as far as the dh and I were concerned, was all the negative campaign ads and calls and mailing sent out by the Cantor folks against Dave Brat. One of the biggest criticisms was that Dave Brat had served on an economic advisory board to a Democratic governor, so of course that made him evil and unworthy. No, that showed he can work with people from another political party!
Anyway, what is most fun is that Dave Brat, an economics professor at a small historic Methodist private college, will now run in the fall against... Another professor at the same small historic Methodist private college! Randolph-Macon college in Ashland Virginia otherwise known as the Center of the Universe (really! They have it on coffee mugs even!), and just happens to be across the railroad tracks from Ashland Coffee and Tea, and older daughter graduated from there, really. She absolutely loved it and they have lots of grant and scholarship money so she graduated with minimal debt. (thank you too Virginia 529 plan!)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's good to be a strong advocate for your client and present the strongest case possible, but as you point out, if an attorney or other advocate gets too involved, they may lose the ability to see or accept a "best outcome" result.


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Yes that's one concern. For me it's mainly about understanding this isn't your battle to fight and to keep remembering it's not personal to YOU. You have to focus on the people who are actually involved and what their wants and needs are. You can't lose sight of that by being caught up in the battle. Maybe their needs are that they do want a huge a battle, and that's what you're there for. But maybe their needs are they just want this over with, and you have to be open to that and understand this is their life not yours.

Anyway how this relates to Kate is I frequently see her sheeple take up for this woman when she has given little to sometimes NO indication it's even an issue that concerns her. This is what I would tell her sheeple. This child support thing is not your battle. We're not talking about a matter of public concern like child labor laws where it's appropriate for the public to speak out. From everything I have read, PA has a very good handle on their child support issues. This is not an area that needs some kind of massive overhaul. And it really is something that is the family's business and no one else's. The same can't be said for the exploitation of children, which should always be the public's business. It's like they're trying to make it the same thing, and it's so not. At a certain point it gets embarrassing to watch them fight so hard a battle Kate hasn't given an indication she is interested in fighting. It's just not a healthy place to be.

JoyinVirginia said...

On topic: what will be more interesting to watch on June 19 instead of TFMJG? According to my trusty TV Guide, at ten there are new episodes of Last Comic Standing, Rookie Blue (that did get a highlight mention), Beyond Scared Straight starts a new season on A&E, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Mountain Monsters, What Not to Wear, House Hunters, The Challenge on MTV horas to Chile, new series Dominion on SyFy, a nee Carbonaro Effect on TruTV (he is a magician who does these fun practical jokes using his magic on this hidden camera show, its a little like the old Candid Camera), and hey Oxygen is showing Burlesque movie with Cher and Christina Aguilar from nine to eleven! And of course on the El Rey network, Thursdays are the Flying Five Finger Eight Pole One Armed Shaolin ... Well, it's Hong Kong kung fu movies from the legendary Shaw brothers and on the 19th its a double feature of Avenging Eagle and The Chinese Boxer. guilty pleasure!
so TFMJG has a bit of competition even in that time slot.
I'm going to be watching the kung fu movies, they are a blast!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Okay I swear I was just channel surfing and I stumbled upon a show on Lifetime that is in the same exact format as Real Housewives only the entire cast is little people.

Sigh.

fidosmommy said...

Clinton fan here, for many of the reasons Millicent noted. I'd go back to the Clinton years in a heartbeat. I like Hillary just fine too.

No comment on GW Bush. I prefer to keep argumentative religious and political topics off the non-religious and non-political blogs. Got my scrolling finger on high alert. :-)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Clinton fan here, for many of the reasons Millicent noted. I'd go back to the Clinton years in a heartbeat. I like Hillary just fine too.

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In comparison to now, well you got me there I'd go back to those years. They look rosier by the day especially with this latest crap. Actually I often joke with one of my conservative friends that the Clintons look better and better these days lol.

JoyinVirginia said...

Admin, how ever did you miss Little Women LA? That is a train wreck squared!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Is there a chance there might be a TFW People cover this week?
Since they broke the story about the special, I thought it was a
possibility. But I would think Tracy Morgan's accident might
trump any other story this week.

Truthful Tabloid Oxymoron said...

The other thing is I"m a libertarian, so I don't base my vote on who is going to help me. I don't want a lot of governmental interference in my life
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But that is almost the anti Republican view. They want the govt to decide what people can, or more to the point can't, do in their own homes and heads. The USA needs a three or four party system. It's all to often a choice of the lesser evil.

Truthful Tabloid Oxymoron said...

Would TFW's sheeple defend her so hard if she or they were never attacked? Or is that a moot point now since it's only the half dozen hard-core left in the pen?

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 164
On topic: what will be more interesting to watch on June 19 instead of TFMJG?
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Cher in Burlesque!
Seriously, that movie is right up there with Glitter.

Vanessa said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 U know folks out here can't relate...because they have never experienced what U as a family have! 

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And bere is the enabler feeding the beast. Come up with any delusional justification for, again "is it me?" "Nahhhh! It's because (fill in the blank)"
Tfw- "oh yes, you're right. I was thinking the same"

They slipped right back into it? I thought the cameras just rolled and everyone just, welll, did their thing? #your normal?? So uou still have a camera man following you and your children around? I'd say you need professional help, not to mention the therapy you SHOULD be putting those kids into.

Carole said...

Ex-head of RadarOnline during TFW/BV time - tweeted Robert asking if the book contained new info. He didn't get an answer. (If I was Robert, I wouldn't answer either after the treatment he got from ROL during Perel's tenure.) He's now at In Touch and Life & Style.

IMPerel
@CandyDishes @GosselinBook Why no answer? And where is Robert? Check out next In Touch Weekly for story.

TLC stinks said...

Politics is a tricky subject. I am a middle of the road democrat but believe in fiscal responsibility. All I know is that before I die, I want to see a WOMAN president. I think Hillary is awesome and I intend to volunteer for her campaign in VA. She will work across party lines.

Glad Cantor got the boot and voters are waking up.

Rhymes with Witch said...

It helps if you realize that it's a July. 113

It's a CULT. Damn autocorrect.

Tucker's Mom said...

Anyway how this relates to Kate is I frequently see her sheeple take up for this woman when she has given little to sometimes NO indication it's even an issue that concerns her.
*********

I have a bit of a different take, having a historical perspective as well.
Kate has reinforced and "rewarded" the nasty comments about Jon on her Twitter, with RT's and passive aggressive responses.
Kate has made very public her disdain for the father of her children, and the fact that she is not just upset, but truly angry that Jon have any say in how his children are parented and raised.
Kate has never rewarded a positive comment about Jon.
Given this, her sheep are appeasing her the only way they think will please her, even though she rarely reinforces it anymore.
Then again, her lack of any effort to put an end to the constant trashing of Jon is tacit approval, and I believe that is all her sheep need to keep stoking the flames of the stake that they so desperately hope to tie Jon to one day.

TLC stinks said...

LOL. Perel is an idiot. Why in the world would Robert give him an exclusive after the way Robert was treated by him at ROL?

Stay quiet, Robert. You don't want to give Kate any ammunition.

TLC stinks said...

As many times as The Today Show has had Kate on, I'd like for Savannah to interview Robert about his book because she experienced first hand the witch Kate is to her children. Robert's book needs to be mainstream and out of the gossip rag world.

Anonymous said...

Tucker's Mom said...

Given this, her sheep are appeasing her the only way they think will please her, even though she rarely reinforces it anymore.

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BAM! You nailed it. Nasty cracks about Jon are the tweets that get the most response so they're sticking with that. It's called toadying. Great insight.

PJ

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes I want a woman in office too but not so bad that I"m willing to vote for someone who perpetrated the disaster that was Benghazi. The fact that Hillary tries to claim criticism of that was just a "diversion" is insulting and sickens me. Again, out of touch.

I will live in hopes that a better candidate will emerge that is deserving of being in office. I'm not settling.



"BAM! You nailed it. Nasty cracks about Jon are the tweets that get the most response so they're sticking with that. It's called toadying. Great insight."

Wow, YES!!!

A Poor Conservative said...

I despise the Clintons, especially Hillary. However, now that I'm on a very limited budget, I have been forced to take advantage of all the various government programs out there for we "poor" folk such as discounted utilities, financial help with Medicare, etc. I'm sure I'll be better off financially if a democrat is in office, although I could never vote for Hillary. I'll let the people vote her in and will be grateful for every tax increase (I', too poor to have to pay taxes) that puts a little more money in my pocket.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


But that is almost the anti Republican view. They want the govt to decide what people can, or more to the point can't, do in their own homes and heads

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That's not the traditional Republican view at all. But both parties have adopted that view to some extent which is why I'm not interested in either of the main parties anymore.

Anonymous said...

Whoa, sorry, lost half my comment. I'll try again.

Tucker's Mom said... 176

Given this, her sheep are appeasing her the only way they think will please her, even though she rarely reinforces it anymore.

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Then I said...

"BAM! You nailed it. Nasty cracks about Jon are the tweets that get the most response so they're sticking with that. It's called toadying. Great insight."

PJ

NJGal51 said...

What else is on that night? Lover Come Back (Doris Day & Rock Hudson) on TCM 10:00PM (ET).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Would TFW's sheeple defend her so hard if she or they were never attacked? Or is that a moot point now since it's only the half dozen hard-core left in the pen?


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Yes who knows.

I do think for many of them left they do just enjoy the "fight." I don't know what their home lives are like but I think it makes them feel special to be acknowledge by Kate even if it's very infrequently and even if it's indirectly. So as others have so wisely pointed out this is a lot about getting her attention even if deep down they might not necessarily believe what they're saying. Their marching orders are to trash Jon at all costs so there's no amount of being discerning about what they are saying, they're just doing it. It's sad.

foxy said...

I saw that show Little Women LA. My goodness they are just the Real Housewives of......... The nastiness and jealousy is too much. Good for a few laughs though. You can see it is scripted, but there must be some truth to it somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Why should Robert respond to IMPerel? He's had the link for the press to contact him on his website from the beginning. I guess "reporters" (and I use the term loosely) expect their stories to be phoned into them.

IMPerel also was responsible for a lot of non-sense that went on back in those days, with threats of IP trackers and ties to The Big Yellow Cow. Now, he wants Robert to answer his questions? Pfft!

PJ

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I saw that show Little Women LA. My goodness they are just the Real Housewives of......... The nastiness and jealousy is too much. Good for a few laughs though. You can see it is scripted, but there must be some truth to it somewhere.


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With a caveat I only watched 10 minutes of it, even though it's all adults it feels really, really exploitive. A couple of them did not seem very bright, with all due respect. Coupled with their special needs these are the sort of vulnerable people who should NOT be on a reality show. There really is nothing educational about this one and it did feel SO scripted.

Little person woman holds wine tasting party at her home, frenemy shows up announcing she is engaged and steals her attention. First little person accuses her of being a drunk. Drama and fighting just like the Housewives ensue. So scripted and dumb.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

The Tracie Thom fan featured on "Catfish" gave a chilling insight into the mindset of some of these people. When asked why she made up another identity (who she then killed off, complete with funeral photo),
she admitted being two people gave her "double interaction" with the
celebrity.

Something is deeply lacking in these people's lives. Maybe real-life relationships, with their challenges and disappointments, are too difficult to navigate. So it's easier to have this slam-dunk, easy
peasy connection: compliment a celebrity (or trash her ex), and
get approval. And it's public approval, so they can bask in that
attention. Or even interpret that attention as friendship.

I'd say I feel sorry for these people, but some of the venom that's come out makes me hardened to their plight. Even the folksy, down home, platitude spoutin superfan has shown her claws on a regular
basis. It's a fascinating phenomenon, for sure.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT politics, it us fascinating to hear the talking heads discussing the Republican primary in Virginia. why did Dave Brat win? He went door to door and TALKED TO VOTERS! What a concept! He talked about what he believes instead of sound bites. He got volunteers and put them to work. He listened to the voters. Eric Cantor, in contrast, on the morning of the primary was in DC meeting with major funders. He was elected six times to his seat, and he took the voters of his district for granted. He funded many attack ads against Dave Brat, with a primary point being that Brat was appointed to a state economic advisory board by a Democratic governor. Horrors! Cantor and his advisors were more concerned with smearing the name of a respected college professor instead of saying anything positive he had done that was important to the voters in central Virginia.
I like candidates who talk to people, and appreciate volunteers, and have ideas instead of sound bites. I don't think this was a national referendum on tea party ideas like the talking heads who speak in sound bites are trying to interpret it. I do think it shows that all politics are local, and if you ignore local folks or take them for granted, they can vote you out as easily as they voted you in.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I'd say I feel sorry for these people, but some of the venom that's come out makes me hardened to their plight. Even the folksy, down home, platitude spoutin superfan has shown her claws on a regular
basis. It's a fascinating phenomenon, for sure.

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Yes. There seem to be different kinds of catfish. Some are more sad and "harmless" or at least not TRYING to hurt anyone. This was like Nev's catfish Angela, who was actually a sad 40 something woman struggling to care for two special needs children and wanting an escape. She wasn't trying to hurt Nev even though she did. She was just using Nev emotionally for her own gain. She would never try to prevent Nev from getting work or sabotage something in his life. That's not what she got off on. She got off on being in love with him.

The Catfish show however also spotlights some angry, mean, nasty catfish people who really do get off on hurting other people and playing emotional games. These are really what is left of the die hard sheeple with a few exceptions (for instance I don't think I've seen Sandie try to hurt anyone). They have a real mean streak to them, and are attracted to other mean and vicious people like BV. They played right into BV's hands, it was a match made in heaven. It's not enough to support Kate, they want to take down everyone else who doesn't support her in the process and will even go so far as trying to interfere in someone's personal life, work and relationships. Why some are gentle catfish and why some must be vicious and mean is a mystery.

Kelly said...

Tucker's Mom: Thank you :) It's only a hairline fracture but unfortunately it's on the same ankle that had to have reconstructive surgery from too many rollerblade and ice skating spills. How are things going with your pup? We decided to get a girl bully now as I've realized that bullies are tough to train and I don't know if I'll have it (or any further ankles to spare) in five years. Plus I'm going back to school for my Master's so need to get the fur babies trained and happy.

Franky: You are so welcome. I'm glad to have found a King kindred spirit. He's had me hooked since I was eleven and would ride myself to the public library, which was five miles one way, even in winter. My Momster was always too busy scrubbing, moaning and generally playing her part as martyr of the century. Gerald's Game was one of my favorites, as was the short stories " Full Dark No Stars". We're reading Duma Key for my bookclub now, though I've read it recently, I'm going to reread it for the club plus it was a pretty darned good and worthy of a second read. Believe it or not, I haven't read the The Tower series. I think since most of his book are door stoppers, I didn't want to get into a series of door stoppers ;) I don't know if you've read Haunted Heart. It was biography about him that he unofficially collaborated on. That was good and interesting as well.

I was roaming around Amazon last night and found a book on narcissism that looked interesting. It's called "The Narcissism Epidemic". I don't know if anyone here has read it, but if you have can you share your opinion? If it was mentioned on the blog and I missed it, sorry. I sometimes have to miss posts and comments and then try to catch up but I always miss things.

I caught the preview for TFW's special while deleting stuff off my dvr. Definitely not watching and for the life of me, cannot figure out why TLC has given her more airtime. I don't know which is worse and more desperate to exploit the Gosselin kids. I'm to the point where I refuse to watch anything that airs on TLC.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


OT politics, it us fascinating to hear the talking heads discussing the Republican primary in Virginia. why did Dave Brat win? He went door to door and TALKED TO VOTERS! What a concept!


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Good for him! This is exactly what we were talking about. The media gets people all worked up about the Tea Party, but if the Tea Party is actually willing to listen to voters on porches, they just might win.

In fact the reason he said he joined the race was because he believed the other candidates in the running had "lost touch."

There ARE candidates out there more in touch or at least TRYING to be more in touch. Do not settle.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admin, how ever did you miss Little Women LA? That is a train wreck squared!

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Lol. I stopped watching Lifetime when they switched over to murder and detective stuff. They used to be more cheese ball schmaltzy stuff that was great to binge watch when you're sick. I miss movies about an older teacher falling in love with her 19-something student but she has a deep dark secret, she has cancer and is dying. Somehow they made the situation not creepy at all.

I also try very hard not to "channel surf." We have a rule where we pick shows we want ahead of time, DVR them and watch them and then the T.V. goes off otherwise we'll just watch crap all night and we do enough of that hehe.

But I broke my rule last night, the kitchen cleanup was done the house tidied up and I was flipping around and look where I landed, in a little people shitstorm.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 176
It helps if you realize that it's a July. 113

It's a CULT. Damn autocorrect.

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I was wondering what a July is, but I was reluctant to ask! I thought it had something to do with the fact that the fans aren't sure exactly when this special was airing, and some may have thought it's in July!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Hit publish too soon. Wanted to add that at least autocorrect didn't change one letter in "cult" to the "C" word!

Katykat said...

One of my good friends has worked w/ the Presidents and their families, from Clinton to now. Ooohh....the sleeping around stories he could tell about Bill. Hillary just looked the other way. Maybe not the best President, but the Bushes were the kindest, most gracious to those around them...the Obamas the worst.

FYI said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 169
Is there a chance there might be a TFW People cover this week?
Since they broke the story about the special, I thought it was a
possibility. But I would think Tracy Morgan's accident might
trump any other story this week.
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Nope, not this week. Jimmy Fallon is the cover story.

http://www.people.com/people/static/h/package/thisweeksissue/index.html?xid=twrthisweeksissue

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I read a book once in college about the Clintons called Unlimited Access, written by an ex-FBI agent. For someone in the FBI to go on record with that was a pretty big deal. Of course the Clinton folks called it rubbish but I don't see a libel lawsuit anywhere.

It was really disgusting the kind of people they were, from the way they treated the staff to even how they treated poor Al Gore, to how inappropriate they could be. There was some kind of tree decorated with condoms and drug needles they put out for Christmas that most of the staff found disgusting and horrifying. The book was very credible.

I don't think we have to settle for nasty people in that house. There are good people out there who are qualified to lead.

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