Tuesday, August 6, 2013

TLC's 'Raising Fame' looks at horrid stage moms

'My childhood was taken from me by this industry'

In a rather ironic turn, TLC's newest reality show looks at none other than child actors and their mothers. Raising Fame premieres Wednesday. Check local listings.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2013/07/raising-fame-reality-tv-show-profiles-the-drama-of-mom-agers/


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Rhymes with Witch said...

Blowing in the Wind 197. Thank you for sharing that. I will be on
the lookout for it.

I'm thinking that these kids' parents and families have something to do with their aspirations too.

http://www.upworthy.com/extended-forecast-a-100-chance-of-these-2-kids-kicking-major-butt-in-life

Lynne In RI said...

From a fan:

DENISE ‏@Mydmaxx 4h

“@FitGirlLife: People inspire you, or they drain you.. Chose them wisely”@Kateplusmy8 so true

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Absolutely, and I guess that TLC found that out the hard way. It must have been mentally draining to work with TFW. They put up with it as long as they could. In addition, CC must have found it draining, as did Tony. I'm sure they all have stories to tell about their experiences with her that would come as no surprise, really.

Isn't it ironic that these "sayings" the fans come up with can be turned around to apply to Kate? They just can't see it, though, and keep tweeting their darn platitudes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


“@FitGirlLife: People inspire you, or they drain you.. Chose them wisely”@Kateplusmy8 so true

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Goodness the drama, sheeple! Some people are just people and have no interest in either inspiring you or draining you. They probably don't give a second thought to you.

But yeah I am enjoying the irony Lynne haha.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Wasn't that Emilykateplus8 or something like that? She must have disappeared. I don't think she's been around on twitter for quite some time.


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Exactly as predicted really. With the younger fans I think most of them will get older, head off to college, get boyfriends and other new friends and suddenly outgrow their obsession, never to be heard from again. Teen fans are different than these older freaks. Celebrity obsession is common and dare I say sort of normal.

Suze said...

Layla @ 188,

Thank you for your reply.

There is documentation on the Berks County website showing that the original $720,000 mortgage was paid off (satisfied) on 12/6/11 and recorded 12/15/11.

When she refinanced it was done in her own name, not the name of the trust. If you check the Berks website you'll see separate records for the satisfied mortgage in the trust name and the new refinanced mortgage in her name.

I don't recall the original mortgage interest rate, but it was quite high. She may have borrowed more than she owed when she refinanced, but not that much plus it's something that many people do when refinancing. Either way, it seems that maintaining her lifestyle is burning through the money the KIDS earned, but I still contend that she has plenty.

Ex Nurse said...

Layla said...
If you check amortization tables for the original 10-yr loan, she would have owed about $500K after 3 years. She tok out a $662K mortgage. And, when she took the loan out in 2011, she had removed the name of the lawyer in charge of the kids' trust before she did that. There was no record of the original loan being paid off (the original loan was included in the kids' trust). So, it is quite possible that she took out that $662 mortgage in her name, without paying off the mortgage held by the trust
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Are you saying that the house has a combined mortgage of $1.3 million+? And that TFW committed some kind of scam by not paying off the first mortgage? We have never had enough information to definitely determine all of the terms of the loan, to know whether she took out some of her equity in the house or not. She, like many others, took advantage of historically low mortgage rates. I agree with Suze and Paper Plates that she is pretty well-off and has been a decent custodian and manager of money. Given the caliber of her legal team, I am sure she had good financial advice. Time will tell if the kids' money was safeguarded or not. There is no point in making assumptions and sweeping proclamations based on pure speculation.

Mortgages are recorded against property--not possible to receive a double mortgage. If it was a second mortgage, the property would have risen in value dramatically--in 2008, values were plummeting.

Silimom said...

Rhymes, thank you for the link. That was so touching and inspiring!

Re: Kate's wealth - I said several years ago that if he invested her money wisely, she could live off the interest very nicely especially if she downsized in some areas.

I think Kate is using the money in the kids trust accounts to pay for their schooling and expenses. She probably also takes her yearly expenses (mortgage, food, utilities) and divides it by 9 and charges the kids for their share. Mind, this is just speculation, but I wouldn't put it past her.

In the end, I suspect one or more of the kids will write a tell all when they're in their 20's and then we will know the kids' perspectives.

PJ's momma said...

The smartest thing she could have done is pay off the house, period. No more monthly payments, no more interest payments, no worrying if you can make either - just pay the taxes each year and call it good. If she did downsize, she could then turn around and buy a more manageable property for cash money when the house sold.
She said 'mine all mine' but it's really 'the bank's all the bank's.' Yes, most people have mortgages, but smart people tend to not want to pay thousands upon thousands in interest each year, on TOP of taxes, if they can help it. Another reason, IMO, that she does not have endless funds.
Also (cul de sac here), is there any verification that is indeed the Roloff kid above? It could be anyone pretending to be him.

Suze said...

Ex-nurse said...
Are you saying that the house has a combined mortgage of $1.3 million+? And that TFW committed some kind of scam by not paying off the first mortgage? We have never had enough information to definitely determine all of the terms of the loan.

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Layla said that she didn't find that the original mortgage had been paid off, but it was. I posted the info in #5 at almost the same time you posted your question.

The documentation is online with all the loan terms, etc, but you have to set up an account using a screen-name and password to see it - very easy. Once on the site you search using the trust name and/or TFW's along with dates and voila - all the info from the deed to mortgage to tax credit. ;-)

https://portal2.recordfusion.com/countyweb/login.do?countyname=Berks

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That was my first question about it so I went to the main Roloff blog which is the equivalent of RTV for the Roloffs! :) Apparently Jacob's account is indeed real, I guess he verified it on his official twitter account. I mentioned nine months ago close family friends sent their 17 year old to an in patient drug/boot camp thing. It's now nine months of that. My heart breaks for him and I really fear for him when he doesn't have to answer to his parents anymore. He is only a few months shy of 18 now. It was not supposed to last that long, but it's where he needs to be. I guess dealing with that, Jacob's issues look like a walk in the park.

PJ's momma said...

Wow, if that is him, his parents need to sit up and take notice. That is ridiculous. It looks like in Jacob's case, he apparently no longer has to answer to his parents.

I wish your young friend all the best, especially as the real, big world looms directly in front of him.

I forgot to mention in the earlier post that I know Kate can claim her mortgage interest on her taxes, but wouldn't she rather be earning interest on the money she's not paying in interest instead? She has 8 little deductions already!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think my struggles with understanding how they are maintaining this lifestyle stem from how TFW is. With almost EVERYTHING she lives in the moment. And I really am not convinced she's all that bright. I can't picture her having that good of an understanding of compounding interest and everything else that goes into setting yourself up for life. She seems like a money in the piggy bank under your bed kind of gal. She doesn't seem the type to sit down with some stuffy financial planner and make sure she has enough socked away to finance her lifestyle for all time to come. To believe this is the case means she is doing something inconsistent with her personality and intelligence.

I will admit to be surprised they have stayed in this house for two years after the show has been done. That said, it's only two years. In the financial world that's nothing. Two years is impressive, but five years, 10 years, and 15 years will really demonstrate whether the money was saved properly or not. The bubble may burst at any moment and unexpectedly. I just hope there is something left for the children when they are 18. It's still a long ways away.

prairiemary said...

Oops, sorry Over in TFW's county! I will gladly trade my Pillsbury Doughboy tummy for your cankles any day!

PJ's momma said...

Agree with everything you expressed about the finances, Admin.

Layla said...

Suze, thank you for that info! The removal of the lawyer for the kids' trust and the new mortgage were all well documented, but I never saw anything that showed the payoff of the first mortgage. Still, if she paid off the first mortgage in Dec 2011, why borrow more money in Jan. 2012? Something's up here. Did she use money from the kids' trust to pay off the first mortgage and then borrow money against it in her name? If she had the money herself to pay it off in Dec 2011, then there was a reason she needed that money on Jan 2012. If the money was there in Dec to pay it off, why did she need the money back a month later? Either way, this does not look good for the kids' future if it is in fact "their house". Either way, she is borrowing money agains an asset that was supposed to be theirs.

I really do pray that she is being careful about the kids' money and their futures. They worked so hard, and they deserve the opportunity to go to college and build successful careers. Let's hope she keeps that in mind.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Am I the only one who thinks that account isn't that bad? Maybe I know too many teenagers. He doesn't answer most questions or gives smart-alleck answers that don't make sense, and he hints at sex and pot but if you read his ex girlfriend's account she suggests they only had sex a few times and he only smoked pot a few times. I hate to say it, but it's pot, not meth. Watch CNN's documentary on it, even Dr. Sanjay Gupta admits it's not nearly as bad of a drug as they used to tell us. Obviously it would be nice if he waited on sex but it's not like he's the first teen to have premature sex and it doesn't mean you're destined for hard jail time.

You know what he sounds like to me, A teenager who idolizes his significantly older brother and is trying desperately to be cool to fit in and who has an audience which is giving him its own little "high". But who deep down is just a normal kid. Even his ex-girlfriend who seems REALLY nice admits he's a sweet kid overall.

The problem I see is more all the people who are watching this. Teenage angst should really be between the parents and close family and friends, at most. Not all the Little People Big World fans. It worries me whether he will get more and more outrageous just to get bigger and better reactions from the fans.

Also this is all mostly stuff he is saying. He could be exaggerating and "puffing up" for attention and shock value. For all we know, he's never even done pot or had sex, but loves the shock and attention he gets for saying so.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

why borrow more money in Jan. 2012

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Isn't that when she started to talk about her crookbook? She's been talking about that thing for a long time. If it IS self published like it essentially looks like she probably had to put up several thousand dollars to get it off the ground.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When was that package mailed off sealed with a kiss??

Where are our TFW historians??!!!

And hey, whatever happened to THAT. I want my kiss! LOL

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18

When was that package mailed off sealed with a kiss??
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Maybe it was returned to sender lol.

PJ's momma said...

Good point - how or why was a mortgage paid off in one month and reissued the next month? Unless the second one was to pay off the first (and remove the attorney) and it took a while for the paperwork to catch up. Which is probably very possible.

Hoosier Girl said...

My question is, no matter what the mortgage amount, if it's in her name now, how is she paying?

Interest on any investment isn't what it was. Most of us took a bath in the stock market. I don't care what you invested in. My investments are just now struggling back to what they were.

She has to be in the negative every month in the debts vs income column.

I know she can't see beyond her nose, but surely she HAS to know that isn't sustainable.

When she files for bankruptcy, I want to see her 'fans' reacting the same way they did about Octomom. Just sayin'

Hoosier Girl said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18

And hey, whatever happened to THAT. I want my kiss! LOL
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Eeewwww!

Sherry Baby said...

Once yesterday, and three times today. Kate sure does have some odd fans:

domilight ‏@domilight 2h
@Kateplusmy8. What's your favorite alcoholic/non-alcoholic drink? ☕🍹🍸🍺

"When was that package mailed off sealed with a kiss??"
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Maybe it was returned to sender lol.

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Without the kiss!

Hoosier Girl said...

Milo still has 'teens' happy to sleep in on Saturday after one week of school? I thought her son graduated? He went to college and is still living at home? And his college started the same week as his sister's high school? How coincidental. Here locally, the Universities and schools deliberately stagger start dates.

Add 1 nonexistent teen, subtract 1 nonexistent dog = a nonexistent family?

I'm such a pessimist! But I'm not buying anything she's selling.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I said ages ago I'm not sure I believe Milo even has a family. Something about her description doesn't ring true. Especially about the kids. So many little things are just sort of "off." Like a person copying their experiences off something they saw but hasn't gotten it quite right.

And I think her husband sounds controlling. Excuse me, but if she wants to stay up later she should stay up later. He shouldn't have the right to order her to go to bed if she doesn't want to. Why is it so important to him she go to bed when he says? Maybe he should respect her sleep patterns for once. Red flags all over that.

Formerly Duped said...

Admin, I agree with you on two points. One, I didn't think Jacob Roloff's account was too bad, possible bravado. I have heard various rumors about him, such as being expelled (sound familiar?) but nothing else verified. He was always portrayed as the neglected troublemaker.I recall one scene where he smashed hundreds of dollars' worth of light-bulbs in the barn and was let off with little punishment.So many scenes were staged, such as Jeremy going to college,holidays and the birthdays etc. Like K+8.

Second, I agree Milo's life seems very contrived and not quite in synch with what she tweets. The leaving off 'g's' then putting them in, the Katie Irene dog, the strange LOM, the teen who plays with toys...she sounds to me like a lonely person who lives alone or possibly in a facility where there is indeed a Lights Out curfew.

Sherry Baby said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 5h

For those of you asking to see recent family pics bc you miss us (aww!So sweet!) go to: http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ I've been updating lots!XO

Really? Lots? Let's see -- Steve Irwin Day on November 16, 2011 is still listed under coming events; Fashion and Beauty last update was on September 27, 2011; Fitness, September 28, 2011; Loveable Products (Wantable, March 13, 2013); Inspiration COMING SOON; Words From Fans, May 30, 2012; Shoka Diaries, May 14, 2013.

Um, Kate, other than promoting your cookbook with "lots of updates" that are mostly photos of kids, exactly how much your website is being updated? Coming events is two years old, and Inspiration still is coming soon, with nothing there!

Under Fitness, I looked at the picture of the Kate Salad. There is no way under the sun that I would make that, eat that, or give it to a dog, cat, or any other living thing.

Sherry Baby said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m
@Kateplusmy8 I see U have 4kids w/U again...seems 2b the norm now on custody days! So 30 days outta the month U always have at least 4kids!

Oh, Milo, Milo, Milo. Give it up. What in the heck could you possibly know about custody days?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So Kate has the kids 30 days a month huh? Gee I wonder what she does with her leftover days in February!

Sherry Baby said...

He shouldn't have the right to order her to go to bed if she doesn't want to. Why is it so important to him she go to bed when he says?

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It's possible that if she didn't have a set bedtime and if he didn't order her to go to bed, Gladys would be on the computer until the wee hours of the morning, pestering the living daylights out of Kate. Maybe he just had to put his foot down and flip those lights off.

localyocul said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 200
Joy, I haven't laughed so hard in ages. THANK YOU.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428372/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---daft-punk-d

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Isn't that funny? I just love it when celebs don't take themselves seriously!! He's a good dancer too, he should try DWTS!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Formely duped agree. Imagine a teenage boy who just wants to be king of the castle, top dog, cool. This is so important to many teens. And Jacob was the baby and had to deal with a very cool and popular big brother in Jeremy, always in his shadow, and a very dominate father and then of course life in the public eye. Not to mention a very unique family with three people who are short stature. That's not an easy thing to be a "normal" child in that situation. Much like hearing children born into deaf families--it's tough.

Now imagine he has hundreds, maybe even thousands of fans hanging onto everything he says, and two parents that apparently just can't control him anymore. This is not a good time in a teen's brain development to have a captive audience like that.

An example of Jacob puffing up is saying he's not going to college. Okay, maybe he won't. But I have a funny feeling he's just saying whatever outrageous thing for the sake of seeing people gasp and blame his parents, which they did. I bet he will go to college at some point. You can't possibly know at 16 years old you will never do that. That's silly. But it got people worked up.

Bottom line, Jacob has clearly felt the effects of reality t.v. and fame the most. He is probably one of the FIRST reality T.V. kids who has now grown up after being very exposed. His show was not one or two seasons, it was a decade of filming. All I can say is thank goodness the Gosselin kids aren't on camera now, may it stay that way and maybe they'll have a good chance.

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 24 I said ages ago I'm not sure I believe Milo even has a family. Something about her description doesn't ring true. Especially about the kids. So many little things are just sort of "off."
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I was thinking about this very thing today. There has always been something a bit "off" about this person when describing kids. I remember a few of them: "the kids who live here", the plastic dump truck belonging to a supposed 18-year-old, mentioning how the "teen" brother and sister go for walks with her and play Frisbee together. Not like any 18 year old guy I've ever heard of. And I agree, the first week in August seems early for college to start up. Frankly, she just doesn't speak of them the way the rest of us speak of our kids. Even in passing. There's a strangeness about it that has nothing to do with her claims of needing "privacy" because of some old internet issue she alludes to. I have a question for some of the Kate historians out there.

How long has Milo been saying these "kids" of hers are 18 and (15, is it? or 13?). Some of us have been peeping in on this Gosselin saga for several years and darned if I can remember Milo ever saying they were 12 and 9 or 14 and 11, etc. Does anyone remember that?

And just to be especially snarky, if that's a picture of her husband's foot, it looks like he might either be a bit shy in the testosterone area or extremely elderly. Not a hair to be seen on leg or toes. Seems odd to me. Anyone else?

Summer Days And Nights said...

For gosh sakes, Milo. Get a freaking room and consummate this union. This incessant slobbering and drooling over Kate is enough to drive anyone completely bats##t crazy!

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is an elderly man in a nursing facility, catfishing and having everyone fooled.

Summer Days And Nights said...

Jean Maclay ‏@JMM57 9m
@Kateplusmy8 She is right ! You look awesome ! They should make a Kate doll !

Preferably, voodoo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There's a strangeness about it that has nothing to do with her claims of needing "privacy" because of some old internet issue she alludes to. I have a question for some of the Kate historians out there.


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That's another "little thing" that is off about her. She is all about exposing the Gosselin kids but so values the privacy of her own family? That makes no sense. Someone who values that so highly would understand why what is going on here is WRONG. Her kids aren't even little. Unless her own family doesn't exist but she uses the privacy as an excuse not to have to make up a bunch of stories that don't ring true about non-existent people.

She also said that her son would be moving out end of July. I remember it vividly because we were snarking about how he probably couldn't wait to get out of there. And also because I and some others thought it was odd. As much as kids are itching to leave at that age, it's your last summer before college with your high school friends. All most kids are doing is working and hanging out with HS friends. That summer is like no other summer a kid ever experiences, everyone about to start their adult lives. Few kids are eager to cut off all ties just like that as much as they may act like the tough guy. It's a HUGE transition. And, as soon as they go look at apartments they realize, oh crap rent is HIGH! And there goes that fantasy. They're still living at home for the summer until college starts.

Now she claims he's suddenly off to school? Is he HOME? Inconsistent stories happen when you make things up.

I think that guy could be just her roommate in her extended care. The walls looks institutional to me, not like a house. And there is no variation EVER to this lights out time? Most people as much as they may have a time they'd like to "get to bed" we all know often that doesn't happen! On any given day depending on what's going on I may AIM for 10:30 but might not actually get there until 11 or 12. But a facility would have a strict bedtime (lights out) without exception ever. The tonka truck could have belonged to a child visitor to see their grandma.

Summer Days And Nights said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 26m

Omg my girls just showed me and said 'this is you mommy in Barbie form!' Gotta say I LOVE her look! #MommyBarbie pic.twitter.com/0Lw27RgB95

She thinks she's Barbie! She's been trying for that look ever since the divorce, and I guess one of the kids confirmed that she finally succeeded. Why in heaven's name would she tweet this photo? Narcissist much?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Omg my girls just showed me and said 'this is you mommy in Barbie form!' Gotta say I LOVE her look! #MommyBarbie pic.twitter.com/0Lw27RgB95

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Def. Look at the shopping bags. Barbie TFW apparently is spending the trust fund too!

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 32 Unless her own family doesn't exist but she uses the privacy as an excuse not to have to make up a bunch of stories that don't ring true about non-existent people.
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Admin, I can't see my post that you're responding to, but I agree with everything you've said. She (she?) doesn't talk about anything in a normal way. Never says she cooked this-or-that for dinner, never speaks of her "kids", only "the teens" - it's all very strange. Nothing that resonates even a little bit with those of us who are actually female, actually wives, or actually mothers. She seems to have dropped her bad-ass, business trip-taking, independent, go-to-bed when she wants, incarnation. Now back to the old lights-out-man, Sunday go to meetin', backwoods version. That was a very peculiar transition for awhile. I guess it didn't go over well.

And here's another thought on the foot. Maybe if it isn't a picture of her (her?) husband's testosterone-deficient leg and foot, and if she and Kate are one-in-the-same? Maybe it's a picture of when Kate got her ankles lipo'd!

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Sorry... *cankles. ROFL!

Melissa NV said...

Def. Look at the shopping bags. Barbie TFW apparently is spending the trust fund too!

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You got that right! All kidding aside, this woman has some serious mental issues going on. I almost feel sorry for her. Why would anyone tweet a photo of Barbie and compare herself to a doll? Does she just think -- oh, I must tweet this and get praises from my fans? She needs the adulation, the compliments and whatever else so that she can be reassured that she is gorgeous and still a celebrity, a star. That's why she cannot take her Twitter down. She thrives on this.

Underneath it all, she seems to be very insecure. I'm not sure if one can be a narcissist and insecure at the same time. I don't know enough about NPD, but it certainly seems that it's more than her just being a narcissist.

Layla said...

Admin, the dream that she sealed with a kiss was mailed off in April 2012. I'm betting she was shopping around her cookbook at that time, but there were no takers.
So, mortgage was paid off in Dec 2011. New mortgage was taken out in Jan 2012. Same time the new BBB was purchased. "Dream" was dropped in the mail in April 2012. I'm guessing the new mortgage financed the new BBB and the costs of creating the "dream", whatever that was.
As for the Barbie, we have to remember that TFW has spent a ton of money on plastic surgery, hair bleaching and extensions, tanning, nails, good bras, ugly heals, and hooker clothes in order to look like Barbie. I wouldn't put it past her to grab one in the store, take a pic, and make up the quote from the kids just to make sure her Tweeties notice the resemblance she paid so much for. Of course, she'll make sure that makes it into some online rag mag. Gotta get some publicity off this!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Underneath it all, she seems to be very insecure. I'm not sure if one can be a narcissist and insecure at the same time

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Whether narcissists can be insecure is apparently a big topic of debate. I think they definitely can be just by anecdotal experience.

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Let's think about this:
Barbie:
-49 years old
-Cheap
-Plastic
-Unrealistic
-Synthetic Hair
-No female 'parts'
-Known to be a bit dumb
-Extremely bad role model for modern young girls

Kate:
-Almost
-Same
-Same
-Same
-Same
-Same
-Same
-Same

OK. I see it now.

Melissa NV said...

And just to be especially snarky, if that's a picture of her husband's foot, it looks like he might either be a bit shy in the testosterone area or extremely elderly. Not a hair to be seen on leg or toes. Seems odd to me. Anyone else?

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He just had surgery. It's possible they shaved his leg pre-op. I'm not sure about the toes, though!

Melissa NV said...

Of course, she'll make sure that makes it into some online rag mag. Gotta get some publicity off this!

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Yes, but I'm not sure it's going to be the kind of publicity she wants. Headline: "Narcissist Kate Gosselin Compares Herself To A Barbie Doll."

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Melissa NV said... 44 He just had surgery. It's possible they shaved his leg pre-op
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I suppose, Melissa. I was snarking. It just looks like a very delicate foot to me, compared to my own husband's manly-man feet and legs. Doesn't look like a young man's foot and he couldn't be THAT old if he has the "teens" and all :)

Summer Days And Nights said...

That toy truck really raised the red flags for me. The kid couldn't have played with it for what, maybe 10 years or so? A metal truck left outside in the elements for that long never would have looked like that. Something was very fishy about that whole thing. Didn't she tweet that she just stumbled across it? Yeah, right...no mud on it, no rust, it was just sitting there like it was placed for the photo.

Suze said...

Layla said...
Still, if she paid off the first mortgage in Dec 2011, why borrow more money in Jan. 2012?
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So, mortgage was paid off in Dec 2011. New mortgage was taken out in Jan 2012.

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I don't see any evidence that she borrowed money in Jan 2012. The new mortgage was taken out 11/30/11, not in Jan '12.

IF she took out a personal loan there is no way to verify it and I don't know how anyone would know about it anyway if it wasn't connected to the mortgage and there's no evidence of that happening.

It takes time for deeds and mortgages to be entered into the records. Only a few days were actually between the date of the satisfied original mortgage and the recording of the 2nd one. She simply re-financed the original mortgage; ie, paid off the 1st and now has a new one with a new interest rate and terms. The original mortgage came due 10/2018 and she had to refinance anyway. She made a smart decision to do it when the interest rates were so low in '11.

I personally don't see anything questionable about what she did, nor about any significant monies being financed above what was owed on the house. As Admin said, perhaps she used some of the money to finance the crookbook and/or the new BBB.

Whatever it is she's doing, IMO, she's using money the KIDS earned. I think even the interest from the money the kids made should go to them when they reach the age of majority, but I think we all know that's never going to happen.
That brings us back to the crux of the matter which is that parents are supposed to be earning the money and supporting the family, not the other way around. I don't think that TFW has earned enough on her own to come anywhere near what is needed to support the family and she's either using the interest on their money or she's already dipped into the principal.

Summer Days And Nights said...

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1 14m

@Kateplusmy8 What a great compliment from your kids!

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It's a compliment to be compared to a plastic doll with big boobs, pencil thin nose, full lips, and hair that went out with Peggy Lipton in the 60s? If my kids said I looked like Barbie, I'd have a complete make-over done in a flash!

Is this what Kate wants to look like?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2232466/Human-Barbie-Model-excessive-plastic-surgery-doll-like-shows-proportions-fashion-shoot.html

Suze said...

I'd hope that she's made this decision for the right reasons...


"Here we go again!

Brandi Glanville has put the kibosh on her sons appearing on Eddie Cibrian and LeAnn Rimes‘ upcoming TV series.

“My fancy kids don’t want 2 wake up but they R being picked up by dad 2 go 2 Aspen!Fancy! PS.no they won’t be on eddie show,” The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star tweeted on Friday..."

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/08/brandi-glanville-not-allowing-sons-appear-eddie-cibrian-leann-rimes-reality-show/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Brandi Glanville has put the kibosh on her sons appearing on Eddie Cibrian and LeAnn Rimes‘ upcoming TV series.

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She benefits from CA courts where if you tell the judge you don't want your kids on TV they probably won't be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It's a compliment to be compared to a plastic doll with big boobs, pencil thin nose, full lips, and hair that went out with Peggy Lipton in the 60s? If my kids said I looked like Barbie, I'd have a complete make-over done in a flash!

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I know! Being called a Barbie is an insult!

Says a lot about the kids they actually think their mother looks like this. This is not how women should look. Plastic, fake, too skinny, too perfect, too much makeup.

Summer Days And Nights said...

Doesn't look like a young man's foot and he couldn't be THAT old if he has the "teens" and all :)

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Didn't Milo once say somewhere that she was in her 50s? LOM would be about that same age. That is, if there really is a hubby.

Remember the hairy hands/arms and man feet on the caterpillar photo? I wonder who those belonged to!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Sorry TFW barbie respected her man.And she actually famous.

chefsummer #Leh said...

And I think Valeria Lukyanova is more like barbie then TFW.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Suze (49): " I don't think that TFW has earned enough on her own to come anywhere near what is needed to support the family and she's either using the interest on their money or she's already dipped into the principal."

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I hope not! He's a married man with children!

fidosmommy said...

Re: Barbie picture. Is TFW going to send that to Mattel for the manufacture of the Kate doll?

Re: Lights out. I agree about some kind of a facility. The nursing homes I know of - and I've visited my share of them - have lights out
about 9:00 pm. But the individual residents can have their own reading light on in bed as long as they don't disturb their roommate. Rehab facilities have the same deal, at least in my own experience. Hospitals allow you to keep lights on all night if you want them, and you can pull the curtain to not bother roomies. Now in a penal institution, the lights go out and that's that. No lights in any of the individual bunks. Period. Thankfully I only know that from internet reading, not from personal experience. In a military barracks I'm guessing it's straight lights out at a set specific time too.

The delivery of vanilla ice cream before bed makes me think of a rehab facility, nursing home or hospital. They often offer a light snack before bed.

Ex Nurse said...

Suze-- thanks for your response. I was saying that it wasn't a credible speculation that she managed to take out 2 mortgages on the same house unless it had, unlike every single other house, risen dramatically in value.

As far as the lapse of the month between the payoff and the new loan, the only scenarios that makes sense to me is that she paid off the loan from her own funds, or, had a short-term private loan arrangement until the new loan started. Or, possibly they are recording dates, and not transactional dates? My bet is that if the loan was actually repaid, and a month lapsed before the new one started, she used her own money. Based on Jon's comment that she has a big pile of it.

Anyway, maybe Milo's son is going off to school to major in TFMJG history.

chefsummer #Leh said...

fidosmommy said... 58
Re: Barbie picture. Is TFW going to send that to Mattel for the manufacture of the Kate doll?
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I bet Milo & Irshfan would love that. They would have their own KK doll.

prairiemary said...

Talking about when TFW was doing the money thing, didn't I read that she had formed some kind of a production company? Over on Preesi's blog?

PA Dutch Mom said...

Where's our resident cat person? Is this a Siamese? Looks more like a Himmie kitten to me.

CJWhodunit ‏@CJWhodunit 1h
@MiloandJack What a beautiful Sealpoint Siamese! Why on earth would someone toss that baby out like so much trash?!? :*(

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
I'm N trouble here... http://twitpic.com/d7kmk5 someone threw this kitten out of a passing truck at local gas station! Could not leave it!
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OrangeCrusher1 said...

Since she has sent so much time and money trying to achieve the plasticized look of a teenage doll, I can see where TFW the narcissist would be pleased to have a child compare her to Barbie. Or did this even happen? It speaks volumes that an almost 40 year old woman is thrilled to hear it, thrilled enough to post a picture of the Barbie doll. Hope all the kids are out on their own when mommy is pushing 50 - it will not be pretty.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

KG - known by the company she keeps said... 33

How long has Milo been saying these "kids" of hers are 18 and (15, is it? or 13?). Some of us have been peeping in on this Gosselin saga for several years and darned if I can remember Milo ever saying they were 12 and 9 or 14 and 11, etc. Does anyone remember that?
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It seems to me Milo has been consistent about the kids' ages. When she first started tweeting she said "the boy" as she calls him was 16 and "the girl" was 12.

Here's the picture of LOM's first operation:

http://twitpic.com/byicfs

It looks like a man's leg to me or maybe a man's feet. They seem pretty large. It looks like he actually had an injury to the other leg as well.

I don't know what to think of Milo other than he/she/it is very odd.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

196 days ago?? How long does it take for a leg to heal?

That is an institution. The hospital bed, the cream colored walls, the stark thick wooden doors, the bathroom right off the room. How can he tell her lights out every night if he's in a facility?

KG - known by the company she keeps said...

Somehow I think Milo would only be interested in the blow-up version. Irishfan? Who knows. They're probably the same person.

chefsummer #Leh said...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@Kateplusmy8 RT @Safer_Online: Are your kids hiding their apps? Here are some ways they could be (cont) http://tl.gd/mfg10a
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MsGoody to the rescue.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Someone THREW it out the window?? She witnessed this, or what?

Why weren't the cops called? In many states you can be arrested for that. Why wasn't a rescue called or animal control? You just pull up to a gas station and happen to witness this? No one else was around and took charge so it's up to you to just take it home I guess? What exactly were you going to do otherwise, just leave it?

This is a perfect example of one of Milo's stories that is missing a lot of important details or doesn't quite make sense or ring true. It may be perfectly true, but the way it's told leaves lots of holes.

chefsummer #Leh said...

On twitter they're saying the Jon's grandma passed away recently.

If this is true I say God bless Jon and the kids. I lost. My sweet granny 4 yrs ago and it's still hard today.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

I decided to torture myself and read some recent tweets. First of all, Milo, you just need to stop yapping (sucking up) and spend some of your time complimenting your own inner circle, not your fantasy lover. You write some of the most obsequious crap I have ever read. You can support someone without sounding so incredibly toady. And second, I know you think Jon doesn't pull through with his 50% custody arrangement but listen....... Kate is incapable of relinquishing control of those kids to him. She COULD NOT stand to have them there 50% of the time. They need to be portion- controlled, bedtime controlled, chore controlled and I know I'm missing hundreds more. Don't you get it you daft dolt.

PA Dutch Mom said...

196 days ago?? How long does it take for a leg to heal?

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Apparently during the first surgery, the screw they put in his ankle was too large and they found this out because he has been complaining about pain ever since surgery. He had it removed yesterday, and therefore, is incapacitated once again. She was complaining about being on urinal call, or something like that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 2h
@Kateplusmy8 RT @Safer_Online: Are your kids hiding their apps? Here are some ways they could be (cont) http://tl.gd/mfg10a

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Well for goodness sake. MsGoody said something useful and insulted Kate in the process. Two for two. Of course the kids may and even probably are hiding their apps. I simply don't believe the twins are perfect little ladies on their phones. Especially with all the iphonogrpahy Mady is doing. She will be itching to share it with her friends on instagram or similar apps. That article says you can hide apps IN THE PHONE just with the general settings! How simple. Even EASIER than I thought. There are lots of other apps out there to help you hide things even better. No way would Kate ever figure that out. Their phone might look like they have 3 photography apps on it when really they may have twitter, instagram, FB, vine, reddit and all of that on a restricted panel TFW will never, ever see or no about.

Breaking news, they found that missing teen. The publicity that case got was amazing.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 65
196 days ago?? How long does it take for a leg to heal?

That is an institution. The hospital bed, the cream colored walls, the stark thick wooden doors, the bathroom right off the room. How can he tell her lights out every night if he's in a facility?
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I believe that picture was taken right after the operation. According to Milo he went home after that. He hasn't been hospitalized for 196 days. She said the screw was too long and was irritatin' another bone and hadn't healed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Apparently during the first surgery, the screw they put in his ankle was too large and they found this out because he has been complaining about pain ever since surgery.

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LOL we know way too much. This is like the updates you get from your great aunt Sally....TMI.

Seriously, it takes 196 days to figure out something isn't healing? And again I ask if he's in a facility how is he telling her to turn the lights off.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 57
Suze (49): " I don't think that TFW has earned enough on her own to come anywhere near what is needed to support the family and she's either using the interest on their money or she's already dipped into the principal."

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I hope not! He's a married man with children!

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Heeheeheehee.... Good one, Dutch!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6m

@Kateplusmy8 Do U like the replacement Audi car? Can U use that when U have 4kids w/U? 4doors rt?

Isn't it soon time for Abner Kravitz to put out the lights? Gladys has asked three questions in one tweet. Is that a record? What business is it of hers what car they used to go to the shoe store and Target? I have never seen such a meddling busy-body in my life! She's something else!

Admin, Gladys says that he is home from the hospital. She tweeted that she asked to see the "long" screw and docs refused, possibly because they thought they'd be sued. I guess his ankle wasn't healing and he was in a lot of pain. She thought he was being a big baby, but when they took xrays, they found that the screw they used was too long and it was digging into the bone or cartilage...can't remember which.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

The whole Milo thing fascinates me. I'd never heard of celebrity worship syndrome before reading here and it's so STRANGE.

Milo commented that her dad passed away at...89? 85? I can't remember exactly. That happened several years ago but Milo gave his age not too long ago. Milo alluded to her mom being a similar age.

I also am under the impression Milo is early 50s. (LOM on motorcycle looked about that age, too.) So I figure Milo's mom is about 90, Milo is about 52, and her daughter is 14. The moms here are on the old side but not impossible.

Fido, the vanilla ice cream as a facility snack and lights out theories are awesome.

So now Milo has rescued a kitty tossed out of a truck? Katie Irene (*snicker*) was wandering on a median when Milo saved her. Milo likes being the hero in her own stories. I have to agree, her tales--down to that yellow truck as Summer Days pointed out--just seem "off."

Remember the hairy arm and man-hand Milo posted of herself, holding the caterpillar on a stick? RWA had such fun with that!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Sorry, Tweet-le. I read from bottom up, and hadn't seen you already answered admin's question.

I've got to stop hitting these rumspringas before Lights Out.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Summer Days and Nights said...

Remember the hairy hands/arms and man feet on the caterpillar photo? I wonder who those belonged to!

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Sorry, Summer! I missed this in your comment. Great minds. I can't resist assembling Milo's clues either!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 26m
@Kateplusmy8 Do U like the replacement Audi car? Can U use that when U have 4kids w/U? 4doors rt?
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Milo so wants to be able to justify why Kate has 3 cars. LOL

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Milo so wants to be able to justify why Kate has 3 cars. LOL

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LOL Milo sets a "pick" tweet for herself just like basketball, did you catch it?

First she tweets some nonsense about how Kate always has four kids 30 days a month. How in the world she deduced that lord knows since neither Kate nor Jon's statements support such a ridiculous claim. But whatever, she has decided in her head that Kate always has at least four kids. Then, a couple hours later, she's trying to guide Kate into saying because she always has four kids the audi is just PERFECT for that. Seats four kids! Just perfect for all those children you've successfully alienated from their loving father!

Wait, what does she do when she alienates the rest?

Milo girl, give it up.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 78
Sorry, Tweet-le. I read from bottom up, and hadn't seen you already answered admin's question.

I've got to stop hitting these rumspringas before Lights Out.
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LOL. That's the best time. A rumspringa or two help put me right to sleep.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Kaitlyn Owens ‏@KaitlynOwens121 6m
@Kateplusmy8 have you ever thought about doing interviews now 2013 with all the kids grown up?

Well, honestly, um...umm...umm...to be honest...um um um um I have done interviews...ummmmmmmm radio stations, and ummm...ummm...I have that...um...gift...um for gab, you know, and I ummmm ummmm love to do interviews. Honestly, that's ummmm what I really ummmm would like to do. Being an ummmmm talk show host is on my....um....bucket list! Didn't you ummm see me on Watch ummmmmm What Happens Live? They ummmmm loved me! Ummm honestly!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

@Kateplusmy8 Do U like the replacement Audi car? Can U use that when U have 4kids w/U? 4doors rt?

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LOL!! Donald on the old Roseanne show!

Shelby said...

The problem I see is more all the people who are watching this. Teenage angst should really be between the parents and close family and friends, at most. Not all the Little People Big World fans. It worries me whether he will get more and more outrageous just to get bigger and better reactions from the fans.


I find your response interesting. Are you saying that if any of the Gosselin kids create an online account, that you wouldn't follow it? That it wouldn't be discussed here?

I think the outrage is coming from the hypocrisy that Jacob's parents spout. They go on and ON about speaking engagements regarding 'no bullying' and have whitewashed their life as being great parents. They're not.

Normal for teenagers is NOT getting kicked out of school.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo girl, give it up.

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Shouldn't that be "Milo it, give it up" because we're not really sure of the gender!

Sleepless In Seattle said...


Remember the hairy arm and man-hand Milo posted of herself, holding the caterpillar on a stick? RWA had such fun with that!

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Was that supposed to be Milo, or Lights Out Man?

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 53

It's a compliment to be compared to a plastic doll with big boobs, pencil thin nose, full lips, and hair that went out with Peggy Lipton in the 60s? If my kids said I looked like Barbie, I'd have a complete make-over done in a flash!

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I know! Being called a Barbie is an insult!

Says a lot about the kids they actually think their mother looks like this. This is not how women should look. Plastic, fake, too skinny, too perfect, too much makeup.

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Right? And the Kate from the early shows could never be compared to Barbie..that was when she was the prettiest IMO. Shame that the kids ID her as the fake plastic version and not the real, pretty version

Layla said...

OT, but Hannah Anderson, the 16-year-old girl kidnapped in Idaho, has been found, is safe but the man who kidnapped her is dead. I have been praying for her and for her father. Mother and brother killed, and Hannah kidnapped by a family friend. It's hard to understand how such horrible things can happen, but thank heavens she still has her father and he still has her.

Layla said...

Sorry, Hannah Anderson was kidnapped in CA, rescued in Idaho (not kidnapped in Idaho).

getofftwitter said...

That Barbie pic, that Kate posted, that she says her kids say she looks like is so wrong, looks nothing like her, even the boobs are deflated. The one Barbie that did look like Kate, was the Australian Barbie from Dolls of the World collection. Same hair, same kind of outfit Kate wore down under, same stupid plastic smile, Kate gives when paps are around. It was scary. This doll is too diva and wrong hair style. The only thing Kate and this Barbie have in common is they are both plastic.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

OT: I just read that Edyie Gorme has passed away, with Steve by her side. They were married for 56 years.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Shelby I don't understand your question. I don't know if I would follow such a thing from the Gosselin children. If it were really concerning, maybe. If it weren't I doubt I'd be interested. I didn't say getting kicked out of school is normal. I said teen angst is normal. Just because it doesn't manifest itself in getting kicked out of school doesn't mean you aren't having issues. It has to be said though he goes to a private school which may very likely kick children out more aggressively. Which is exactly what happened to my dear friend. A relatively minor infraction that didn't even occur on school property sent him packing. Had he been at a public school he probably would have only been given a strike for what he did and would still be there now. That may be the case with Jacob. I'm not sure this should be talked about too much more other than to say it's a sad situation and hopefully he will make it through.

Layla said...

Hmmm, my original post about Hannah Anderson's rescue didn't show up. She is a 16-year-old girl kidnapped from CA by a family friend, her mother and brother killed, and her home set on fire by this monster. She has been rescued alive and her kidnapper is dead. It is such a relief to know that she is okay and that she still has a living family member (her father) waiting for her. It's terrifying to know that thee are people out there who are capable of committing such horrible acts.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Same hair, same kind of outfit Kate wore down under, same stupid plastic smile

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Really? I don't remember Kate wearing an outback "uniform" with a hat and high boots, green shirt and brown cross-over bag. I'm remembering that she wore a khaki shirt for the Steve Irwin thing, but the outfit wasn't anything like the Australia Barbie's. I also remember a pink sweatshirt and a blue sweatshirt where the "girls" were very prominent! Are there photos floating around somewhere?

The pic of Barbie she tweeted tonight, I thought, was spot on, especially the harshly bleached hair and dress. That's exactly the kind of dress Kate would wear (in fact, someone tweeted a photo of Kate in a dress that was very similar to Barbie's) and her current long bleached hair is very much like that on the Barbie.

ncgirl said...

"OT: I just read that Edyie Gorme has passed away, with Steve by her side."

I really liked their music. I didn't know they had 2 sons, one is deceased, the other is a musical composer for High Musical and other movies.

On topic. Congratulations, Kate. You look like a Barbie doll. Is that helping you get a show?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

On topic. Congratulations, Kate. You look like a Barbie doll. Is that helping you get a show?
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That about sums it up. :)

Shelby said...

The pic of Barbie she tweeted tonight, I thought, was spot on, especially the harshly bleached hair and dress.

I agree! But pretty pathetic that her own kids think that. What distorted body images they are going to have growing up. Kate's a horrible mother and role model.

Somewhere In Time said...

The Milo thing. Can't sleep so I checked out some things. In one day of the Halloween storm (2011) Milo tweeted Kate 60 times. Bizarre.

She tweeted:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Or U could lay out & imagine U are on a beach & the warm, soothin sun's rays are embracin ur bikini clad body! LOL

Does that sound like a tweet from one woman to another woman? I can't find the tweet where she said that she could imagine the two of them walking by the pond together. She may have deleted it.

Then there was the period when she thought that her dog was communicatin with Shoka:

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Has Shoka been usin ur phone? Jack got this weird tweet awhile back...w/a "high paws" message fr #1 Shepherd in PA! LOL

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I can tell Shoka & Jack are bonding as best twitter buddies in the animal world. They both have human pack leader issues! :)

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 So enjoy this experience to the full...remember @MiloandJack are somewhere close 2 the podium cheerin U on! (meow&woofs 2hear!)

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@ICYou1 @Kateplusmy8 LOL...I will gladly claim Kate+her8 (&Shoka) as my extended family...question is will Kate claim @MiloandJack? :)

And even back then, two years ago, she was playing Gladys Kravitz:

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Just checkin 2 see if anyone was at home here? Looks like either U really are workin "a hard day's night" or maybe out 4 fun!

Notice she says "here," like she's actually part of that family.

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 So when are U gonna share ur excitement over yesterday? @MiloandJack is anxious 2 hear? Something good goin on? :)

I just think that it's really strange that so many of the fans know the identities of other fans, fans know who non-fans are and vice-versa, but nobody knows if this person is a man, woman, kid, is married, has children, or is confined to a facility. The only thing known is that she/he/it is very odd and some of the stories don't add up. I did notice, though, in 2011 she said she had a 12-year-old. Is she now saying that the daughter is 14?

Anyone want to go out for some pancakes and sausage? :)

ncgirl said...

I mean High School Musical. High Musical could be interesting though.

Bitchy Pants said...

PA Dutch Mom 62 -- I took a look at the pix of the kitten. It's definitely NOT a Himmy. Himmies are longhaired and have flat faces like a Persian. I'd say it's a Siamese -- not show quality -- or possibly a random bred cat with points. Most likely a Siamese.

So TFMJG thinks it's a compliment to be compared to Barbie? Can you say delusional? In fact, if I were Barbie, I'd be insulted to be compared to TFMJG.

formerly Readerlady

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Remember the hairy arm and man-hand Milo posted of herself, holding the caterpillar on a stick? RWA had such fun with that!

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Sleepless In Seattle said... 87

Was that supposed to be Milo, or Lights Out Man?

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Milo tweeted something like "Look what I found when I was out walkin today."

It looked like someone had taken a photo one-handed while holding a caterpillar on a stick in the other hand. In the photo, you could see a man's shoe and it was clearly a man's hairy arm. That got deleted REAL fast.

Am I remembering this right?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

I think somewhere on the RWA site is a screenshot of Milo's caterpillar tweet and photo.

TLC stinks said...

Isn't it odd how Milo is able to remain anonymous for so long? No way is this person some middle aged woman. The tweets just do not fit. I have said all along this person is most likely a man ( I know there was the so-called woman that called into a radio show but a man can imitate a woman's voice). It is incredibly easy to "catfish" and lonely nut jobs find the Internet is a great way to pretend they have a life and romance. Why write tweets like a supposed Southerner? That tells me the person is not Southern at all because WE don't write like that casually. Never. This person is fabricating a tall tale. This person is in hiding unlike Kate's few real fans who post their names and pictures and they want to meet Kate. Isn't that the point of being a fan? Milo has no intention of meeting Kate. That would destroy a fantasy. Kate is an idiot for communicating with these oddballs.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate is an idiot for communicating with these oddballs.


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That says it all doesn't it? I am at a loss how she cannot see the red flags here. A normal person would block and run away from this person and fast. Instead she embraces her like a BFF. I don't care if she is who she says she is and is harmless, the red flags are THERE and it's best to be cautious. What's sad is this person is supposed to be protecting eight young children's welfare. If TFW can't even recognize the most basic of dicey situations with a fan, what else is she missing?

Wowser said...

She can't get rid of Milo....Kate's narcissistic thoughts are louder than her voice of reason. A normal person would have red flags popping up all over...TFW only sees red hearts. TFW and Milo are in love with the same person but there's no competition! TFW's mantra is "I love me and so does Milo"

TLC stinks said...

Kate is reckless because she cannot turn away from adoration. It is particularly worrisome for the kids because everyone knows where they live, what school they attend, and if a nutjob is infatuated with Kate or one of the children, the person will obsess and take a risk. And to add another layer, Kate is basically alone so making Twitter friends fulfills the need for adult stimulation, even if the people she communicates with are crackpots. I'd say there may be a perfect storm brewing.

chefsummer #Leh said...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 An adult pushes a child into showbiz. Children are minors so adults handle their money.

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Parents use that money to take care of the household and its ooccupants.

So yoo-(Msgoody) admit that TWF is using the kids money?

And that she So has no talent other then using her kids.

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Children all over the world work to help support their households, including USA.

So now it's okay that TFW uses her kids to support her and her life style cause it's done all over the world?

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These sheep/fans know that TFW is a user with no talents or skills of her own

And they know she can't make it without using the kids,

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

PA Dutch Mom 62 -- I took a look at the pix of the kitten. It's definitely NOT a Himmy. Himmies are longhaired and have flat faces like a Persian.

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When our Himmy was a kitten, the hair still wasn't long (kitten fuzz), and she didn't have a flat face like a Persian, but boy, does she ever have long hair now (grooming nightmare), and her face still isn't flat! She's definitely Himmy, a spur-of-the-moment purchase at a cat show, and we love her beyond words!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

What's sad is this person is supposed to be protecting eight young children's welfare. If TFW can't even recognize the most basic of dicey situations with a fan, what else is she missing?

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How much time do you have?

TLC stinks said...

Kids have had a field day w/hubs one leg being shaved 4surgery! I offered2paint his toenails! W/out ortho boot...that's a goodlookin leg! :)

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Milo reads here. A tweet to explain the hairless leg which was caught by someone here.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

This person is in hiding unlike Kate's few real fans who post their names and pictures and they want to meet Kate. Isn't that the point of being a fan? Milo has no intention of meeting Kate. That would destroy a fantasy. Kate is an idiot for communicating with these oddballs.

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That was another red flag. She had the opportunity to go on a cruise with Kate that was within traveling distance. She could have met Kate at churches, speaking engagements, signings, whatever, and yet she didn't -- always some excuse. An obsessive fan would give their right arm to be able to meet their idol. This one didn't.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

It looked like someone had taken a photo one-handed while holding a caterpillar on a stick in the other hand. In the photo, you could see a man's shoe and it was clearly a man's hairy arm. That got deleted REAL fast.

Am I remembering this right?
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That's not the way I remember it. The shoes were sneakers and most sneakers look unisex to me. They were a bluish/grey color. I also don't remember seeing the whole arm, just the hand holding a caterpillar on a stick. The hand had very short nails and didn't particularly look mannish to me. To me it looked like either a woman's or a teens hand, not a mans. That particular photo stayed up in her photos section on twitter for quite a while. If there was another shot she tweeted, then she tweeted two pictures and deleted one and I missed it. But as I recall it, I happened to see the tweet and picture right as she tweeted.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Milo put a pic of what I assume was her husband on twitter.

But now she deleted it. I wonder why she took the pic down.

A Pink Straight Jacket For TFW said...

Bitchy Pants said... 101

[excerpt]
So TFMJG thinks it's a compliment to be compared to Barbie? Can you say delusional? In fact, if I were Barbie, I'd be insulted to be compared to TFMJG.

formerly Readerlady

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Pfffttt... TFW is flattered that she resembles a plastic doll?

Actually, I do see a resemblance-

Barbie & TFW have the same lights are on, but no one is home, vapid look in their eyes.

Aim higher bimbo.

chefsummer #Leh said...

It seems like MsGoody knows that TFW is a child exploiter.

And she seems to be okay with that.

Google is my friend said...

http://twitpic.com/7umpc8

http://twitpic.com/8glc99

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

That's not the way I remember it. The shoes were sneakers and most sneakers look unisex to me.

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I remember them as looking like very short, very fat feet, which I thought was kind of strange because didn't she say she was very petite and weighed something like 90 pounds soaking wet! I recall, though, that the hand (or wrist) was hairy. Is that photo around anywhere?

A Pink Straight Jacket For TFW said...

ncgirl said... 96

"OT: I just read that Edyie Gorme has passed away, with Steve by her side."

I really liked their music. I didn't know they had 2 sons, one is deceased, the other is a musical composer for High Musical and other movies.

On topic. Congratulations, Kate. You look like a Barbie doll. Is that helping you get a show?

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Sadly, the last of the greats are leaving us.

Back in the day, entertainers were consummate professionals. Gifted, classy, and funny.
Nowadays, people are famous for nothing.
Argh, crap.

R.I.P. Eydie Gorme. You will be missed terribly.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Kids have had a field day w/hubs one leg being shaved 4surgery! I offered2paint his toenails! W/out ortho boot...that's a goodlookin leg! :)

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Milo reads here. A tweet to explain the hairless leg which was caught by someone here.

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Was that tweeted before or after the leg discussion here?

A Pink Straight Jacket For TFW said...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Children all over the world work to help support their households, including USA.

So now it's okay that TFW uses her kids to support her and her life style cause it's done all over the world?

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Oh... My...God.

That explains everything.

FYI said...

TFW comparing herself to Barbie, reminds me of the song "Barbie Girl". Here are some of the lyrics:

"I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!"

"I'm a blond bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly"

You can watch the video on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_pTeDz4Zpk

Bitchy Pants said...

Fleecing -- The original Himmies didn't have flat faces, but since they've been incorporated into the Persian breed, they are getting flatter and flatter. Personally, I like the old style, which is what your baby sounds like, much better. Still, that kitten pix Milo tweeted, is definitely not a Himmy -- old or Persian style. It's a pet quality Siamese or a random bred with points.

formerly Readerlady

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

chefsummer said... 114
Milo put a pic of what I assume was her husband on twitter.

But now she deleted it. I wonder why she took the pic down.
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Probably because the non-fans were making such fun of him.

Formerly Duped said...

I was looking at some of Kate's twit pics. There are many negative comments. I wonder why she doesn't delete them?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

The original Himmies didn't have flat faces, but since they've been incorporated into the Persian breed, they are getting flatter and flatter. Personally, I like the old style, which is what your baby sounds like, much better.

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That makes sense. My baby is 15 years old and doesn't have the flat face. I took a look at the "new" ones, and mine is definitely prettier with the non-Persian face! We also have a Fold with a very flat face. One of the kids says that he always looks angry, but he's as sweet as can be!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Google is my friend, thanks for posting those links. It's easy to understand why a cop's job would be so frustrating--so many different "eyewitness" accounts of the same thing.

I think stories get mis-remembered as well. That's one reason I think both sides are to blame in this endless war.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Google is my friend said... 117

http://twitpic.com/7umpc8

http://twitpic.com/8glc99

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You historians are so good! I knew I saw a photo of the sneakers somewhere because I remember the purple laces and that the feet were wide. Those pants really don't look like women's slacks, do they?

If you enlarge the caterpillar photo, you can see the peach fuzz/hair on the wrist. I don't have hairy wrists, but maybe some women do?!!

Layla said...

If you look back at the first Milo pic (with the caterpillar), you can see a black dog's head in the background. She always talked about walking with Jack. But if you click back to other pics, there is one of Jack and Katie Irene on dog beds. Both are yellow dogs. Did Jack change colors?

And those feet are awfully big for a 90-pound woman.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

If you enlarge the caterpillar photo, you can see the peach fuzz/hair on the wrist. I don't have hairy wrists, but maybe some women do?!!
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Did Milo specifically say she was holding the stick? Could it have been her son?

Formerly Duped said...

Maybe those are the teen son's hands and feet!!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Layla said... 129
If you look back at the first Milo pic (with the caterpillar), you can see a black dog's head in the background. She always talked about walking with Jack. But if you click back to other pics, there is one of Jack and Katie Irene on dog beds. Both are yellow dogs. Did Jack change colors?

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Milo "explained" the black dog some while ago. She said it's the neighbor's dog who often goes walking with her and Jack. Said they actually give the dog more attention than its owners do.

TLC stinks said...

Milo sure likes to tease with bits of human body parts.

Google is my friend said...

chefsummer said... 114
Milo put a pic of what I assume was her husband on twitter.

But now she deleted it. I wonder why she took the pic down.
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Is this the picture you're talking about?

http://twitpic.com/74wwhd

If you click on @MiloandJack at the top of the page, you can see all her pictures. She apparently uses twitpic.com for some, and twitter.com for others.

Tucker's Mom said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For TFW said... 121
MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Children all over the world work to help support their households, including USA.

So now it's okay that TFW uses her kids to support her and her life style cause it's done all over the world?

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Oh... My...God.
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Uh, in third world countries, not the USA.
It's called child labor and is ILLEGAL. It is a form of slavery.

Tucker's Mom said...

chefsummer said... 116
It seems like MsGoody knows that TFW is a child exploiter.

And she seems to be okay with that.
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Here's hoping the G kids at least get their 40 acres and a mule once their emancipated...

Wowser said...

I have a seal point Siamese...the cat Milo "found" does look like a seal point but the hair is much fuzzier and longer ...could be a mix breed OR maybe a young rag doll ???

Millicent said...

Admin said:
Watch CNN's documentary on it, even Dr. Sanjay Gupta admits it's not nearly as bad of a drug as they used to tell us
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I know, totally off topic, but still wanted to add my 2 cents. Pot is not bad - it's not a gateway drug. In fact, marijuana can actually be truly beneficial, as in cases of people with nausea from various illnesses. I had a friend in high school with leukemia (of which she died very young). She couldn't keep any food down. Her father bought pot for her, to ease her pain and make her life less miserable. This is why I think it should not be persecuted! People truly need it at times and making them criminals to get it is just plain wrong (and heartless, sinful).

If booze is legal for those over 21, there is no reason why pot should not also be legal. In fact, alcohol does more damage to our society than pot ever has or ever will. Yet booze is legal, as long as you are over 21. But there is huge money involved in the prosecution and prison industry re marijuana and that's why they don't want it legalized.

My brother is battling colon cancer, has no appetite, can't keep food down. I suggested he seek medical marijuana but his doctor doesn't want him to go that way, because he's been brain-washed to believe it's a bad drug. How can we allow tobacco cigarettes that cause cancer, but we won't allow sick people access to marijuana? It does not make a lick of sense. To make people suffer needlessly?

I am so passionate about this issue (as you can probably tell).

If pot is legalized, will some abuse it? Yes, of course they will, just as some abuse their legal access to alcohol. But most of us don't. I can buy beer, wine or hard liquor at any time I choose. But I only drink occasionally, and even then it's usually one glass of wine, or one beer. I'm not running wild and getting drunk. Nor would I get high and behave irresponsibly if pot was legal. I'd be the same, responsible citizen I am today. Common sense should prevail.

NJGal51 said...
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Suze said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 57

Suze (49): " I don't think that TFW has earned enough on her own to come anywhere near what is needed to support the family and she's either using the interest on their money or she's already dipped into the principal."

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I hope not! He's a married man with children!

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Good one!! oops LOL

chefsummer #Leh said...

Google is my friend said... 134

Ah no it's was another guy on her twitter photos.

Hey maybe Milo has two husbands or this is the real Milo on the bike.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Tucker's Mom said... 136
chefsummer said... 116
It seems like MsGoody knows that TFW is a child exploiter.

And she seems to be okay with that.
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Here's hoping the G kids at least get their 40 acres and a mule once their emancipated...
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TFW would find some way to take 15% of their lands.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Millicent agree with every word. We are shifting our thinking slowly but surely.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Last I checked most human rights organizations condemn child labor abroad.

Formerly Duped said...

Millicent, I agree. And pot is helpful for MS sufferers and some eye ailments too.

Formerly Duped said...

Re: Milo's photos. One, she seems to enjoy animals and nature. Two, the person in both the injured foot hospital pics looks like a woman?? Three, why would she take a picture of her 'son' and small blond girl from behind?? Maybe she's protecting his privacy, lol.

Suze said...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Children all over the world work to help support their households, including USA.

So now it's okay that TFW uses her kids to support her and her life style cause it's done all over the world?

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Of course. That and sheeple logic is that anything TFW does to support the family is justified because she's doing it by her lonesome, always circling back around to the dead beat dad mantra again.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Suze said... 144

But this.

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 7h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Children all over the world work to help support their households, including USA.

Since TFW isn't working a job herself that means they're being supported by their own earnings.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 143
Last I checked most human rights organizations condemn child labor abroad.
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It is really sick to rationalize that children's incomes go to support the family's costs. Parents provide for kids, not the other way around. Any money earned by a child WILLINGLY working in a protected manner should be socked away for the child when they are 18.
Period.
A child should not be paying for:
food
health insurance
school
clothing
medicine
household items and maintenance
salon treatments
manicures
pedicures
tanning
cars
car insurance
lawyers

Minors can work once they are legal to do so, for spending money, or gas money,or car insurance money or leisure money as many of us did. But, that is IT.
Hmmm... since Kate was FORCED to put 15% of the show earnings into the kids' savings, do the kids pay Social Security on their income? In other words, are the paying into the system so that they have started to accumulate the benefits once they are old enough to receive them (assuming these programs will be around)?

NJGal51 said...

I deleted my earlier comment because I forgot to mask the user ID. I'm reposting my comment with the 5th graders ID masked
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@XXXXXXXX @SchmeckyGirl2 @TLC @Kateplusmy8 it not even exploraition your dumb for even thing that. I would like you to explain how its exploration.
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This from a child in 5th grade who has inserted herself into a conversation between SG and Goody. One of the "haters" has advised her that it may be better to tweet with people her own age.

fidosmommy said...

Bitchy Pants said... 101
PA Dutch Mom 62 -- I took a look at the pix of the kitten. It's definitely NOT a Himmy. Himmies are longhaired and have flat faces like a Persian. I'd say it's a Siamese -- not show quality -- or possibly a random bred cat with points. Most likely a Siamese.


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I didn't look, but could the cat be a Ragdoll?
They look like Siamese with the points, but they have medium length, thick hair. Their faces are nothing like Persians but have more of a Siamese shaped face. I had a Ragdoll. They got their name because when you pick them up they become limp.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Tucker's Mom said... 149

Parents provide for kids, not the other way around.
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And this is what the sheep seem to be missing. Or. They think it's okay for 8 little kids to support their lazy mother.

fidosmommy said...

The black dog in the caterpillar picture - I would laugh myself sick if that dog were a pit bull!

Melissa NV said...

I have a seal point Siamese...the cat Milo "found" does look like a seal point but the hair is much fuzzier and longer ...could be a mix breed OR maybe a young rag doll ???

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I don't know too much about cat breeds, but I never saw long fuzzy hair like that on a Siamese. I went to her photos and enlarged the cat picture and that one definitely is a long-haired cat. I'd adopt it!

Melissa NV said...

This from a child in 5th grade who has inserted herself into a conversation between SG and Goody. One of the "haters" has advised her that it may be better to tweet with people her own age.

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Does she even know what exploitation is? She could be confusing it with exploration!

Melissa NV said...

Three, why would she take a picture of her 'son' and small blond girl from behind?? Maybe she's protecting his privacy, lol.

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When questioned, she's explained a few times that because of something that happened on the internet, she seldom talks about her children and she doesn't show their faces in photos.

Bitchy Pants said...

"It's called child labor and is ILLEGAL."

And yet, it's not. The child labor laws of the 1930's exempt agriculture. There are as many as a half million children as young as 10, some even younger, who perform backbreaking stoop labor in this country every year. The law also doesn't set any hour restrictions, so some of them are working 10 -- 12 hours a day. Small agricultural establishments are exempt altogether, and some of them employ kids as young as 5 or 6. I'm not talking about kids working on family farms, I'm talking about non-related kids working for wages. If any of you have seen or visited a migrant labor camp, you know that the conditions can be brutal. In many places the animals live better than the humans.

formerly Readerlady

SeeSaw said...

Everyone condemns child labor.

Except MsGoody, apparently. Oh, and TFW and TLC.

Unknown said...

All I know is that I'm 5' tall, and weigh a bit more than 100 lbs, and my feet are about half as wide, and not nearly as long as those shoes that are supposed to be Milo's. I wear size 5 1/2 shoe, and as the years pass, they are more and more difficult to find. I can find sneakers, but most of the time when it comes to shoes, the pickings are very slim! The shoes in the photo do not (to me) seem to be shoes on a petite woman.

I agree with those that think pot should be legal and regulated , the same as booze and cigarettes. Just think of the taxes the government could get from legal pot! Think of the people no longer filling prisons for possession/selling pot!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Oh, oh, trouble in paradise?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 13m
@MiloandJack DM! It's an emergency!

Melissa NV said...

All I know is that I'm 5' tall, and weigh a bit more than 100 lbs, and my feet are about half as wide, and not nearly as long as those shoes that are supposed to be Milo's. I wear size 5 1/2 shoe, and as the years pass, they are more and more difficult to find. I can find sneakers, but most of the time when it comes to shoes, the pickings are very slim! The shoes in the photo do not (to me) seem to be shoes on a petite woman.

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Then again, maybe she isn't the petite woman she's claiming to be. She could be a very large woman (or a small man!).

Do women wear pants like that? It's not something I would have in my closet, but in the few What Not To Wear shows I've seen, I guess anything is possible!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A child should not be paying for:

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They should not only not be paying for it they should not even know that these things are something to be concerned about paying for.

A child's job is to learn and grow and play in preparation for adulthood. They can work later. A child's job is not to be concerned with food, rent, insurance and other bills. Responsibility should be imposed slowly, gradually. A real and true JOB is not a responsibility they are mentally and emotionally ready for until much latter into the teen years.

NJGal51 said...


Does she even know what exploitation is? She could be confusing it with exploration!
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That was my point Melissa.

Tucker's Mom said...

They should not only not be paying for it they should not even know that these things are something to be concerned about paying for.
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I have no doubt this has been ingrained into the G kids, especially to keep up their lifestyle (home, school) and travel/vacations. No doubt whatsoever.
Proof?
Look at Kate boohooing on the Today Show about telling her kids they could not go to NYC when Jon put a temporary halt on filming.
The kids should have NEVER heard those words. They should have been told it's not happening now, but I'll figure it out. Don't worry.
How do I know?
Because Kate SAID the kids were very upset. There was NO REASON to involve them in the change of NYC plans. A simple explanation would have satisfied 6 year olds and they would never have guessed that there was a problem.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Why any parent or person would want to burden a small child with adult problems and adult worries and adult disappointments is beyond me. So sick. Childhood should be happy and carefree. Adulthood is for worries.

FYI said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 160
Oh, oh, trouble in paradise?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 13m
@MiloandJack DM! It's an emergency!
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Goody has probably been reading here, and has seen that we've been discussing Milo and her pictures. She probably wants to give Milo a heads up and warn her to make her pictures private.

FYI said...

TFW is just about as nosy as Milo. Someone tweeted her a picture of a license plate that read "Kates 8".

Kara Greeley ‏@OfficialKG 2h
Too bad this wasn't you, @Kateplusmy8!! Would be the perfect license plate! pic.twitter.com/1Mf7XCAjPj

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 40m
@OfficialKG wow! Wish I had that plate!! Wonder who it is? Is she Kate? Does she also have 8?

Kara Greeley ‏@OfficialKG 37m
@Kateplusmy8 good questions! Should have rolled down my window and asked her!!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 12m
@OfficialKG agreed! :)

Did TFW want to know who it is that has the plate so she could call her lawyers and ask "Can we sue?".

Bitchy Pants said...

Fidosmommy -- I don't think the kitten is a Ragdoll. It really doesn't have the boning or structure of a Ragdoll. I don't think the kitten is a longhair at all, I think it's just fuzzy kitten coat. It could possibly be a Javanese or Balinese (essentially, long-haired Siamese), but the tail isn't plumey, they way they are. My closest friend in the Cat Fancy is a Siamese breeder, so I've seen a lot of Siamese kittens. I could be wrong, though. It's definitely an Oriental body type. My money is on a pointed random bred kitten or a Siamese.

formerly Readerlady

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 2h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @herwiththebrain @TLC @Kateplusmy8 Parents use that money to take care of the household and its ooccupants.

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She needs to listen and pay attention when stars like Maura Wilson and everyone else on Katie Couric's special on child stars explained that the money they earned was certainly NOT used to take care of the household. It was put in trust for them to do what they wish with it when they were adults.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kids have had a field day w/hubs one leg being shaved 4surgery!

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Another thing that doesn't ring true about kids. They are teens. They may have teased dad about getting his leg shaved a couple times but a "field day"? No, they most likely don't care. Teens care about friends and sports and girlfriends and boyfriends and movies and iphones. Not their dad's shaved leg.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


TFW comparing herself to Barbie, reminds me of the song "Barbie Girl".

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OMG I haven't heard that song in years! That song was huge. I even remember the MTV video. Thanks for the "throwback Sunday." LOL.

Melissa NV said...

Does she even know what exploitation is? She could be confusing it with exploration!
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That was my point Melissa.

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Why does a 9-year-old who just finished fourth grade have a Twitter account and hop on Kate's TL? Where are the parents?

Melissa NV said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 160

Oh, oh, trouble in paradise?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 13m
@MiloandJack DM! It's an emergency!

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Sound alarm! All sheeple to their muster stations!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Sadly, the last of the greats are leaving us.

Back in the day, entertainers were consummate professionals. Gifted, classy, and funny.
Nowadays, peo

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Can you imagine someday when we're saying RIP Snookie or RIP Richard Hatch? I just don't think the impact will be the same.


rainbowsandunicorns said...

Jennifer ‏@JenWaters1 46m

Been watching #Kateplus8 on Netflix for 2 days...I literally have no idea what to do now that I've finished the last episode.

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How about going to the library and picking up a few good classics; what about volunteering at your local food bank or going to nursing home and reading to the residents? Try getting involved with a community youth or rec program. Do some fund-raising or charity work for a group in which you're interested.

Are these kids really lost without Kate on Netflix?

NJGal51 said...

Why does a 9-year-old who just finished fourth grade have a Twitter account and hop on Kate's TL? Where are the parents?
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I often wonder where many parents are today.

Wowser said...

Theory: maybe Milo is gay and lights out man is really a woman...AND she has a CRUSH on TFW....that WOULD explain her sexual tweets to TFw and her obsession with her body. ???

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I've long suspected she may be gay. The things that excite her about TFW a straight woman wouldn't notice. What's sad about that is why hide it and pretend you have a husband? Are we still that backwards?

FYI said...

OMG I haven't heard that song in years! That song was huge. I even remember the MTV video. Thanks for the "throwback Sunday." LOL.
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Admin-you're welcome. Unfortunately, now I cannot get that song out of my head.

Summer Days And Nights said...

admin said, "What's sad about that is why hide it and pretend you have a husband? Are we still that backwards?"
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Don't forget -- Kate is in the picture. If all this were true, don't you think Kate would head for the hills? Imagine the negative publicity for her if this ever came out, that she is the object of a gay woman's affections? In this case, and if it were true, that would be the reason for hiding it, especially for someone who is so obsessed with her. A person would want to keep up her relationship as BBF, not scare off the object of her affection.

Straight women, as far as I know, are not so preoccupied with other women's bodies, their bikini clad body, rockin a bikini, daisy dukes, fabulous legs, or long walks into the sunset together. They just aren't.

Anonymous said...

Liscense plate, really? I bought a personalised one in the early 90's...c u l8r...maybe K8 should chillax.


or maybe I have a tm claim to abreviating the " ate" sound to #8...hmmm

franky

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Ruh roh.....

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m
@Kateplusmy8 DM

Anonymous said...

I think this conversation has taken a turn for the worse.

What would it matter if Milo was gay? Point is, Milo is creepy..THAT is scary. point finale.

franky

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It doesn't matter if she is gay. No one said it mattered. I don't care what she is, but I do have an interest in the catfishing going on here. No one should be catfished, even TFW. I'd bet money on it she is not what she says. And I think someone this disassociated could be a danger to the children. And TFW is a danger because she can't recognize a red flag if it hit her in the face.

localyocul said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 160
Oh, oh, trouble in paradise?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 13m
@MiloandJack DM! It's an emergency!

(((((((((

Followed an hour later by:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@msgoody2shoes21 ok

Followed a half hour later by:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 34m
@Kateplusmy8 DM

Blowing In The Wind said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 182

Ruh roh.....

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m
@Kateplusmy8 DM

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LOL, Tweet! I just saw that. Why would Milo have to DM Kate, after Goody sent an emergency DM to Milo? If Kate and Milo communicate in so many ways, why wouldn't Milo just pick up her phone and call Kate?

I have to laugh when I think about sheep ringing the farm bell, herding themselves around in the pasture heading for the barn, and gathering to listen to instructions from the Chief Ewe in charge!

localyocul said...

Oh, and about the time Milo DMd Kate:

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 29m
@msgoody2shoes21 DM

MsGoody2Shoes21‏@msgoody2shoes21
@Truth_Teller201 Replied. Please read ♥

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 20m
@msgoody2shoes21 Replied. 💜

Blowing In The Wind said...

And I think someone this disassociated could be a danger to the children. And TFW is a danger because she can't recognize a red flag if it hit her in the face.

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Wouldn't you think, Admin, that she has been checked out by a security team? I would certainly hope that there are names on a list and if Kate still has someone in charge of security that they would have alerted her to this?

Then again, would Kate even listen? The last thing anyone wants is to see any danger come to her, Jon or the children, especially if there were warnings signs and it could have been prevented.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

LOL I know. Frantic sheeple. They are always cooking up something through DMs. What exactly could be so important and secretive?

What could possibly be so important. I hardly ever hear here, ADMIN I DMed you check your email!!!! Most people are like she'll get to it when she gets to it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Wouldn't you think, Admin, that she has been checked out by a security team? I would certainly hope that there are names on a list and if Kate still has someone in charge of security that they would have alerted her to this?

Then again, would Kate even listen?

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Who knows. If the security team cleared it I don't think much of them. Or she doesn't listen if they had concerns. I can see her saying whatever whatever it's fine.

Any security team worth their salt would recognize something is off about some of these fans and best to avoid them. But maybe they didn't even vet anyone. Unless you're a really big celeb, usually it's up to you to use good judgment online just like the rest of us.

Wowser said...

Thank you Admin.....that was exactly my point and my "theory" was just that...a theory...that TFW probably has NO idea herself what or who Milo is except what Milo has tried to portray herself as. I totally think TFW has and is being catfished by Milo and that TFW has never met her/him and has never seen a real picture either.

localyocul said...

Looks like they are stirring up David Perel from ROL. That Truth Teller sent him a nasty tweet from ECJ last night (nevermind the over the top nasty Goody tweets) and now she's tweeting him about this:

Truth Teller ‏@Truth_Teller201 7m
@IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille Here is the link. It's none of their business what corp Kate's has! STALKERS! http://appext9.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_INFORMATION?p_nameid=3876840&p_corpid=3871296&p_entity_name=k8%20&p_name_type=A&p_search_type=BEGINS&p_srch_results_page=0%20#IMPerel%94 …

localyocul said...

I guess that was in reply to this:

HelpStopChildAbuse ‏@UseCmmonSense 2h
@EmeraldCityJazz @AlfredoCocozza @MsGoody2Shoes21 Y does @Kateplusmy8 use kids $ when she has corps like http://appext9.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_INFORMATION?p_nameid=3876840&p_corpid=3871296&p_entity_name=k8%20&p_name_type=A&p_search_type=BEGINS&p_srch_results_page=0 … #IMPerel

Blowing In The Wind said...

I don't care what she is, but I do have an interest in the catfishing going on here. No one should be catfished, even TFW. I'd bet money on it she is not what she says.

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I don't care what she is either, but someone is really "off" -- it could be catfishing, it could be something worse than Celebrity Worship. Nobody gets this involved in another person's every move, inserting themselves into a family like they belonged there. A normal person doesn't play the 20-question game on a daily basis, putting Gladys Kravitz to shame. I still think that there is a reason that she didn't meet Kate when she's had so many opportunities and I don't think it was because of distance involved or lack of funds. If she's in the deep south as she says, that cruise took off from Lauderdale and yet she never signed up, and I don't believe it was because of her health. Things just don't add up.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Big doins in the barn tonight. Wonder if the DMs are in sheep morse code:

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 7m
@IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille Here is the link. It's none of their business what corp Kate's has! STALKERS!


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Actually corporations are public record and the public's business. We all have an interest in transparency from those taking our money. Especially ones that use minors to make money. A matter of public concern. So, yes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Remember circa the cruise when Milo asked TFW how she pictured her?

That is just a bizarre thing to ask. Who cares how someone pictures you especially some D lister celeb? And how come you haven't sent her pics before?

My best guess is that she is perhaps elderly and feeble and was concerned that maybe TFW wouldn't like her if she saw her on the cruise. She wanted reassurance Kate would love her no matter what. As I recall,TFW has in fact told Milo she loves her.

Naturally TFW never responded to that one. Which may have scared Milo off from going on that cruise.

I think Milo doesn't want to risk that Kate would stop talking to her if she ever actually met her. The status quo is better than the risk TFW might go away if she doesn't like her. It's not worth the risk of messing with a good thing. Speaks to a very vulnerable and insecure woman if she is truly that petrified and insecure to meet someone.

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 195

Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 7m
@IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille Here is the link. It's none of their business what corp Kate's has! STALKERS!


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Actually corporations are public record and the public's business. We all have an interest in transparency from those taking our money. Especially ones that use minors to make money. A matter of public concern. So, yes.

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So what's the "emergency"? That Kate is about to be exposed? That TT (who seems evil to me IMO) is the one who sent it to Perel. It was tweeted by a hater who said they saw it here. The sheep are the ones blowing it into the open. Or do they think it's fake or not Kate and everyone will be exposed for a big conspiracy? I don't get it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't know what they are all up in arms about either.

It's not exactly a secret that Kate makes her children fund her lifestyle. It's not a conspiracy. She does it straight out in the open!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Baa b ba ba bb baaaaa
baa b ba ba bb baaaaa

baaaaaaaaaa baa baa baa bbbaa

LOL!! Or an SOS...Save Our Sheep!

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