Thursday, June 27, 2013

Humility, contrition, personal responsibility, apology


Michael Levine has been in the PR business since 1983 (his firm is called the "Oscar" of PR and has represented Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Cameron Diaz). This expert has weighed in on how a celebrity should handle a crisis (or f-up, if you will) as big as Paula Deen's. His four tips are interesting, and pretty spot on. Here we go:
1) Respond quickly to problems: Though Deen cancelled her originally-scheduled "Today" interview, opting to record her own videos — which were much maligned for being obviously edited — Levine says she can make up for it during her Wednesday appearance. "I don’t think it was wise [to cancel], but America is basically a forgiving nation, so I think if she goes on the ‘Today’ show and confronts it, this will be a good thing for her."

2) Respond with humility: "We've already started seeing her make her apology," says Levine of the self-recorded videos in which Deen apologized “to everybody for the wrong that I’ve done,” saying she's made mistakes and calling her language "inappropriate and hurtful." But Levine says she will need to continue to appear remorseful when speaking to Lauer. "She's begun the healing process, but it's a process and you have to keep doing it again and again until you get it behind you."

3) Respond with contrition: "If you make clear that this is not who you are today, and you show some degree of sincerity about it, over time you should be fine," Levine opines, though adding changing the public's new perception of her will not happen "in an hour, day or week." Though he does believeAmerica could see Deen back on its airwaves in the course of a year or two if she appears sincerely sorry.

4) Respond with personal responsibility: Levine says one of the biggest goals of her "Today" appearance should be to own up to her actions without making excuses. "She can't belittle and blame others," he says, citing O.J. Simpson as an example of how not to address a crisis. “He responded arrogantly, slowly, and belittled and blamed others and did not do well with the public." Instead, Levine recommends Deen follow Hugh Grant's lead back in 1995, when he appeared on "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" to publicly apologize for having an affair with a prostitute, famously saying, "I did a bad thing." The actor went on to have continued success.

"If you do those four things — if you go fast, humble, personally responsible with contrition, and apology, you're going to basically be OK," says Levine.

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Melissa NV said...

I was watching the discourse between the "haters" and the sheeple the past couple days. Each side aggravates the other. This is what her Twitter has become. Time to close it down. The sheeple are baiting today, pulling out all stops and going after the non-fans with ugly accusations. I think both sides could be considered master baiters. They've had enough practice. The thing is that both sides are biting. They just don't know when to walk away.

Unknown said...

njay said... 135
''......He wasn't even sneaky when he got the hard drives.''
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I'm way behind in reading the comments, but I really want to respond to this.

I agree that Robert is NOT the one that released the photo, and that Robert isn't ''sneaky''. Robert owns what he does.

HOWEVER, I must remind you that Robert NEVER said that he ''got the hard drives''. In fact, he has said over and over and over again that he found DISCS and papers in the trash. NOT ''hard drives''

rainbowsandunicorns said...

She was told they don't do that. Elvis, the host, asked "Didn't she say...don't you know who I am," and the answer was no, she expected everyone to know who she was.

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Oh but how can that be? Milo says that EVERYONE who meets Kate falls in love with her!
Yeah, right...

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Several of her fans have, but Kate didn't reply. Milo said that it was probably because Kate only had a 6 month contract. Kate probably thought that sounded like a good excuse, because why else would she specify the months when she tweeted:

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Did they ask her why she didn't renew the alleged (Milo reported) six months contract? Wouldn't a follower be curious enough to want to know why she left? Or are they afraid to find out the answer?

FYI said...

Remona- yes, you're right. Robert has always maintained that he got computer disks out of the trash. I think I was ROL that started the hard drive rumor.

The sheeple keep saying that Kate is too smart-that she would never dispose of computer disks. But what if she never even realized that they were computer disks? She might have just thought that they were music CD's that belonged to Jon, and threw them out with the rest of his things.

Winsomeone said...

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The sheeple keep saying that Kate is too smart-that she would never dispose of computer disks. But what if she never even realized that they were computer disks? She might have just thought that they were music CD's that belonged to Jon, and threw them out with the rest of his things."

Do you think she actually bagged up Jon's stuff to throw away? I don't, she had one of the hired help do that, and she doesn't even know what was thrown out. The girl was most likely told to bag up anything that was left, and throw it into the trash.

Children First said...

Kate's fans are so classy, so well-spoken, so intelligent. Maybe it's one of Goody's relatives. Perhaps this one will be applying for moderator of her blog. I just wonder what Kate thinks when she reads something like this. She really does need to put out a blanket tweet requesting that slams against the father of her children will not be tolerated on her Twitter page. Will she do it? She hasn't so far!

Dollface31498
@Kateplusmy8 stay out of the public right now you don't want to end up like Paula Dean dick face Jon was hoping the same would happen 2 u !

Dollface31498
@Kateplusmy8 If Jon was my husband I would of nailed his ass to the wall by now he's such a douch bag stick it to him already Kate !

Children First said...

MiloandJack

@Kateplusmy8 I've always liked "Dear Abby" growing up.But I think the world is more than ready 4a regular #AskKate >>

Now it's going to be an "Ask Kate" column. Milo is still on "the world" kick. How many toothpicks short of a full box is that woman? Geez...

Come on, Milo. Ask Kate why she isn't blogging for The Stir anymore? We dare you!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Let me guess. Cindy is the go-to person in charge.

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I wonder if Cindy has mass mailed everyone signed up, forgetting to BCC the addresses of course, assuring them we're almost sold out and the show will go on don't worry! She'll even let you watch Paula play with Bubba and her sons on the beach! Do you think everyone will be vetted in case they're a hater?

Melissa NV said...

She'll even let you watch Paula play with Bubba and her sons on the beach! Do you think everyone will be vetted in case they're a hater?

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I think her son would rather play with one of the crew in his stateroom. I hope the ship has closed-circuit television for his adult viewing pleasure.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Children First said... 8

MiloandJack

@Kateplusmy8 I've always liked "Dear Abby" growing up.But I think the world is more than ready 4a regular #AskKate >>

Now it's going to be an "Ask Kate" column. Milo is still on "the world" kick. How many toothpicks short of a full box is that woman? Geez...

Come on, Milo. Ask Kate why she isn't blogging for The Stir anymore? We dare you!

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The world? I don't think the world wants that.

As a matter of fact. The majority has spoken very loud, and clearly, NO MORE KATE.

Stop, Milo. You are embarrassing yourself.

TLC stinks said...

Makes total sense what Kylie reported to you. Typical sneaky Kate thanking The Stir because she knew they were NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. This is exactly what I thought happened. Thanks for the posting, Admin. A 6-month contract did not make any sense. I bet The Stir folks just rolled their eyes when they were made aware of her thank you tweet.

TLC stinks said...

Now that we know that Kate planted that thank you tweet to The Stir, I am now more convinced she also planted the eye slant picture. I agree with the writer at Celeb Dirty Laundry. I don't put anything past her to paint herself different from what she actually is.

Barb Gilman said...

Remember 2 weeks ago when Cara told her to blog about ice cream for her last blog? I sure hope Kate didn't tell the girls the whole story about Kate leaving The Stir. I can see those poor girls worrying about money when it's not their job to worry about that. But, knowing Kate is best friends with the girls, I bet she did!

Unknown said...

Winsomeone said... 6
''...Do you think she actually bagged up Jon's stuff to throw away? I don't, she had one of the hired help do that, and she doesn't even know what was thrown out. The girl was most likely told to bag up anything that was left, and throw it into the trash.''
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I think this is exactly what happened. KK had the hired help throw things out, so she has no idea what was thrown away. Robert has said there is a police report (when KK called the police on Robert helping Jon move his things out of the garage apartment in the rain) and in that police report is KK saying that anything Jon left was going to be thrown away...and that is why Robert came back before the trash was picked up, and got it all.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Kylie said... 173

This information was given to me by a very reliable source, she has been proven in the past to have inside information that proved correct. I'm sorry I can't divulge her name, it wouldn't be fair to her. The info came from a PR person.


3 weeks ago The Stir released KG due to A LOT of members boycotting the site because she came off as being phoney and yes all the posts were about mememe/IIII and not what she was hired for (as in adventures with her kids). They did allow her to end the month (June) and both parties agreed to walk away with their hands "clean". Isnt it nice to have friends in high places? LOL

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Yes, it is ;o)
Thanks for sharing your info, Kylie.

It seems that Kate is consistently not a contract honor-er.

Anonymous said...

Forgive me if this has been addressed. If the picture of Katie wearing the plastic wig was stolen, how did she just happen to still have one of Jon wearing it?

Midnight Madness said...

Now that we know that Kate planted that thank you tweet to The Stir, I am now more convinced she also planted the eye slant picture.

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That wasn't a "plant," was it? She just thanked them. A plant is when someone places something in secret (or with deception) and its intended to be discovered by the public. Kate didn't do that with the thank you.

Layla said...

If The Stir fired Kate (in part) due to people boycotting the site, then it looks like they lost more readers than they gained by having Kate on board. Think about it--if Kate were pulling in enough readers to offset the ones they lost, then they would have kept her on, even though she's a crappy writer. It's all about the numbers, and she obviously hurt their numbers.

Speaking of mediocre--she went from TLC, who catered to her every request, to CC, who paid her, sponsored her runs, and got her appearances on TV, to The Stir, who only paid her for a weekly blog, but no big perks like the others. Now she's even lost that, and she's stuck blogging for her few fans for free. They'll be demanding weekly blogs, and she's not likely to do that because she's not getting a paycheck. Just like she won't post her own videos on Youtube--why would she do it for free if she really wants to get paid for it?

Like I said before, she'd have to pull off some major successes to rise to the level of mediocre these days.

Midnight Madness said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 53m

@userback @Kateplusmy8 Kate coupons...looks 4bargains/sales all the time! She definitely knows HOW 2stretch a dollar 2get it 2buy 2$$ worth!

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So now Milo goes shopping with Kate. This person, whether it is a woman, a man, or an it, is crazier than a bed bug on vacation at a five-star hotel.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Half of Kate's advice is such a head scratcher to begin with. To be a Dear Abby type people generally need to like your advice. At least most of the time. Kate's advice is bad advice.

I don't relate to the world is a bad place out to get you. I don't relate to never ever quit, as some things should be left behind as you go through life. I don't relate to the idea that all these people are jealous of you always look around with a skeptical eye, in my world jealousy is often a juvenile emotion not very common except maybe among children.

Kristine said...

M.I.A. since a few months ago- but puppet posting, and accounted for.

I knew Kate's relationship with CafeMom/The Stir would end abruptly, as did everything she has ever called a tradition, or encountered in her adult life.

Mostly lurking lately. BTW... I did visit BM's site a few days ago, after over 2 years and wish her well with her Bog and its' future success in covering Kate news. I used to post on GWoP, then I eventually came over here because the conversations (and Nanny counting stats) were fascinating. So, that could explain the dwindling numbers over there.

This site will continue, because we found a unique and rare click of highly intelligent women (and men) right here. We chat about topics other than the Gosselins. I have never laughed so hard on a website, than I have at 15 Mins. (I also drank a bunch of Rumspringa during the last Halloween party we had, and apologize for any off-color remarks I may have posted ;)

Pun totally intended-- Paula Deen. I was a huge fan of Bubba's Red Velvet Buttermilk Cupcakes. I will never bake another batch without, thinking about their immediate and swift demise. Just don't take away my cupcakes!

Layla said...

Milo's tweet about Kate stretching a dollar is just idiotic. Every mom I know coupons (to some extent) and looks for bargains and sales. I sure do. Why is it so special that Kate does it, when everybody else does it, too?

And Kate most definitely does not know how to stretch a dollar. Having a house so large that she needs to hire help to clean it is not stretching a dollar. Neither is having a lawn so huge that it requires hired "lawn boys" to maintain. Or owning 3 cars that need to be paid for, serviced, and insured while they sit in the driveway and depreciate. Or having the groomer pick up her dog rather than her driving Shoka to the groomer herself, or even bathing and grooming him herself. Or having her hair done in NYC, or the french manicures, or tanning, or plastic surgery. You get my drift. Clipping a few coupons and buying the kids' clothes on sale doesn't make a dent in her spending.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That would be some cruise i don't want to be on.

Imagine walking into the wine tasting activity in the King and I Dining Room or the couples newlywed game in the Viking Crown Lounge, only to see Bubba watching porn.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

I definitely believe Kylie's info, too. Five months--end of January to end of June--and 23(?) blogs would be a bizarre amount for which to write a contract.

I think the "thank you" was planted in the sense that she wanted to manipulate the perception that she loved the Stir and the Stir loved her. Usually a thank-you is such a nice thing, but Kate Gosselin only acts gracious when there's an angle.

I was looking back at Kate's timeline.

Three weeks ago was right after the "Most Embarrassing MOMent" blog, which everyone called out for being contrived and boring and perhaps a way of saving face with the kids' friends when she had a meltdown in front of them.

She was tweeting maniacally at the end of May and beginning of June. Around June 8, the 3-week mark, she suddenly began to clam up and her tweeting was much more erratic.

She called Bullyville "heroes" on June 7 and retweeted a Bullyville hit on Pimpmykids on June 9.

She also disappeared from Twitter completely for a few days right after that (no tweets June 11-14.) She's had some "on" days since, but more off--very erratic. I bet she's bipolar. Up down, up down.... The Stir rocked her world is my guess. Another failure.

After the firing, we have the warm, fuzzy, philosophical Kate: the oddly photo-shopped dog and Kate's advice to an 18 year old. But it was too little too late, still not about the kids, and no one was buying what she was selling anyway.

That cookbook is gonna BOMB.

FYI said...

Hmm-Milo send a DM to Deanna earlier today. Is she trying to get the scoop on why Kate left the Stir, or is she trying to confirm that Kate had a restraining order against Jon?

Milo slipped-she forgot to delete that tweet.

Another tweet from Milo that shows she doesn't know anything:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 18m
@Kateplusmy8 Here's a nice thought...when we SHOW #Compassion we change ME to WE! Caring/empathy bonds people. #Gators should try it! :)

When has Kate ever shown compassion or empathy?
There has been more empathy/compassion for each other shown on this blog, than I have ever seen from Kate.

I'm a PuppetGator and am proud of it!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It was the running out of gas blog that caused probably the most outrage of anything she had written at the Stir. None of what she said about her app made sense to anyone who has it (the app can show the entire state or zoom in on a one mile square radius, it would NOT have left her high and dry unless there were no cell phone service, which wasn't the case). She caught additional outrage for interrupting Jon's pick up of the children from school. People also complained it was pathetic someone who doesn't work and claimed to be so organized couldn't take care of a simple problem of gas before it got to this point. I guess she was too busy worrying about swooping in on JON's pick up and being a parental alienator to think about it. What it came down to was you're out of gas, go get some--It's not a blog post! You can read the comments here and the Stir to see more about what was so obnoxious about that post, there were many other things.

Good sleuthing Virginia, seems logical that post was it for the Stir. It was simply bad and they knew it. The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

Midnight Madness said...

Or owning 3 cars that need to be paid for, serviced, and insured while they sit in the driveway and depreciate.

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Someone should ask Milo if Kate used a coupon to buy those cars. You know, in order to stretch a dollar. In fact, someone should ask her why one person needs three cars. I'd love to hear the answer to that one.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Paula had a MEGA empire that is imploding in a spectacular fashion.

Kate was a "one hit wonder" slowing fading from the scene. Any scene.

The comments on this are very interesting. I wonder how many of Kate's confidentiality contracts would hold water?

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/06/amys-baking-company-employee-contract-kitchen-nightmares/

Kristine said...

I'm sorry, I have to clarify my last post. I have never responded to a comment on BM's site, or engaged her personally. Although I am not laying (sic) in wait, like a troll or ninja. No interest in taking her down... calm before the storm, or whatever her biggest fears are. Absolutely zero.

Kristine said...

I meant clique, and maybe that's why the (six) Sheeple hate us.

People know said...

Well, now this comment at The Stir from yesterday afternoon makes sense. That week that her blog ran on a Friday with no explanation was exacty three weeks ago (Friday, June 7th). That week was the beginning of a change on twitter where she became much more quiet:


Nonmember comment from MomBlogger
Yesterday at 3:53 PM

Take it from those in the know....The Stir does NOT contract for 23 weekly blogs. Her contract was for far longer, but was terminated early. She was supposed to be here all year, which is why her first blog was about this being the "Year of the Teenager". Her daughters don't become teenagers until October. If she knew back in January that she would be gone by the end of June, she wouldn't have talked about this being the year of the teenager, and promised "more to come". She was cut loose early for very good reasons and she knew it was coming a few weeks ago. Remember that one week when her blog was mysteriously not posted until Friday, with zero explanation? That's when the you-know-what was hitting the fan. That was the beginning and then the racist photo debacle was the last straw.

Kristine said...

Admin said...
"Imagine walking into the wine tasting activity in the King and I Dining Room or the couples newlywed game in the Viking Crown Lounge, only to see Bubba watching porn."
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I'm over-posting. Like I said (thanks for the Yul Brynner image), I may never eat another cupcake without thinking about Bubba's porn-face. So gross. I didn't even read the transcripts yet. Why isn't this on TRU TV?

Ex Nurse said...

Awww...the are just so darn cute...right--Kate is going to writable a private, members-only, website for her 6 fans (and their cast of thousands socks).

Admin said,,.
WHAT hardships?
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She needs a show! She needs her dream seat! She needs endorsements! She needs to live in Hollywood! She needs a red carpet! How dare you deprive her of her God given right to live life on her terms! You are a bully!

Speaking of God, I guess he is no longer UPS or FedExing to her mail box. Maybe he is DMing.

Midnight Madness said...

Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it, but why do the sheep have problems with plurals? You'd think if they wanted to call non-fans names, they'd at least know what to do with the word.

RealZiggyFlo ‏@RealZiggyFlo 28 Jun
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 There is plenty of that love between Kate & her children shown on the show.Hater's ignore that & try to degrade it

Patricia Chow ‏@PatriciaChow1 1h
@kateplusmy8 Kate you & kids have a fun & wonderful summer....(Hater's put a zipper on your mouth )

Then there's this brilliant tweet:

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@SchmeckyGirl2 @Kateplusmy8 @IMPerel Why r u tweeting me when u asked me not 2 tweet u even when I didn't tweet u but tweeted Truth Teller.

Oy.

TLC stinks said...

LOL, Midnight. I guess a public tweet wasn't secret but it sure was deceptive, as in disguising what really happened. I wonder if she'll sue if someone spills the beans at The Stir? This is a story I wish someone would follow up on. Too bad Kate manages to shut people down from revealing the truth. This is why it's important to keep this blog up.

Kristine said...

I'll read the Paula Deen court transcripts tonight. Let's just hope there isn't a Bubba sex tape somewhere out there, to be distributed. Eeew.

I adore you Ex-Nurse... and I hope you found an amazing man. If not, keep looking he's out there.

Juliana said...

I think we have to be careful in saying that Kate was fired from the Stir. With BV watching that has potential for a case for libel.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Juliana, thanks for being concerned it's always good to be aware. I'm very careful about that and I don't see an issue here. Kate is a public figure and would have to prove actual malice. The definition of malice is reckless disregard for the truth. There was nothing about how this info was posted here that shows this blog showed any kind of reckless disregard for the truth. I guess she could go after the source themselves, but that would be between herself and the source. Reckless disregard for the truth would be, for instance, if I had a source who said she wasn't fired it in fact was a rare contract for 23 blogs, and I refused to talk to that source or investigate their side of the story. There's not anything close to that situation here.

Not to mention, if it's the truth, which I think it is, there is no libel at all so none of that would matter. You can be reckless all you want if it's the truth.

Kristine said...

Speaking of God, our (potential) new Scott Kluth won't likely be making a Kate is inauthentic statement on Monday. No press conferences here.

NY Julianna said...


Juliana said... 38

I think we have to be careful in saying that Kate was fired from the Stir. With BV watching that has potential for a case for libel.

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There are two posters here with the same ID? Greetings, Juliana! I'm the one with two ns! I'll change my ID a bit so there's no confusion!

NY Julianna said...

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@SchmeckyGirl2 @Kateplusmy8 @IMPerel Why r u tweeting me when u asked me not 2 tweet u even when I didn't tweet u but tweeted Truth Teller.

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Looks like we know why the fans consider Kate such a fabulous blogger! They tweet the way she writes. I guess they understand her, and therefore know how to help her!

Ingrid said...

HOWEVER, I must remind you that Robert NEVER said that he ''got the hard drives''. In fact, he has said over and over and over again that he found DISCS and papers in the trash. NOT ''hard drives''

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ALSO was there any proof that Jon did get the harddrive from Kate's computer? All I have seen is the text to Hailey about GOING to get it. Did I miss proof somewhere that he actually got it? Or is the only confirmation verbal from Hailey? (which there is no way to prove because Hailey might just be lying to get back at Jon)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

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@SchmeckyGirl2 @Kateplusmy8 @IMPerel Why r u tweeting me when u asked me not 2 tweet u even when I didn't tweet u but tweeted Truth Teller.

Oy.
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Oy is right. Reminds me of the kids' lament, "Stop touching me. Mom she's touching me."

NY Julianna said...

Stash ‏@stashcache 2m

@MiloandJack @msgoody2shoes21 @userback @Kateplusmy8 I've never seen her ask for laptops either!

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I remember when a fan said that she gave away her used laptops and Kate tweeted something like, "why didn't you tell me...you could have sent them here." The fan apologized and said that she didn't know that Kate wanted them.

Didn't Ms Miami NBA Heat send laptops to the kids, or was that all a ruse?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anonymous you can share "insider" info that Kate wasn't fired but it has to be the same way, emailing me and standing by it just like the other person stood by it. I wonder why the Stir didn't say it was nice having Kate if your info is correct. You would think a simple thank you would be in order if there were no bad blood.

Juliana said...

Julianna with two n's

I am sorry I didn't realize there was another one! I will change mine.

I am a long time lurker and have only posted occasionally so I will pick my other grandma's name. I hope no one is using 'Kay'?

NY Julianna said...

Julianna with two n's

I am sorry I didn't realize there was another one! I will change mine.

I am a long time lurker and have only posted occasionally so I will pick my other grandma's name. I hope no one is using 'Kay'?

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No need to do that. I changed mine. All is good.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Look out! Where's Milo? Another potential suitor means competition!

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Keomi Berry ‏@Keomiberry 3m
@MY_3BCOLLIES @MiloandJack @ReneeAudric @Kateplusmy8 I know right lol I just love kate so much.

FYI said...

Back in February 2012 Kate tweeted a picture of the tups sitting at their laptops.

Kate Gosselin ‏ @Kateplusmy8
img.ly/ewR1 ...The scene at r house last pm...Scrounged around4any laptop we could find2speed the homework process! Still not enuf!

Then Sandie tweeted the following:

Sandie ‏
@Kateplusmy8 I wish you had spoken sooner. I just donated some office laptops. I would have sent them your way. :(

And then Kate replied:

Kate Gosselin ‏ @Kateplusmy8
@SandieBellz oh crap! That sucks,huh?We coulda used ur old laptops but lotsa others can 2 I guess! Thanks for thought! Good of u 2 donate!

I guess you can't go back on twitter to find the actual tweet and prove it, but these were posted here on Feb.28, 2012.

So Kate didn't "technically" ask for laptops, but she was sure disappointed when she couldn't get the ones that Sandie gave away.

Suze said...

....is not the house mentioned in the complaint against Paula and not where she lives now and even if it was, it's absolutely not valued at $13 million.

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Didn't someone here say yesterday that it was a typo...that it was actually three million?

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Someone originally said the house was valued at $33 million, but revised it down to $13M, quoting from the lawsuit complaint. I opined that it's value is closer to $5M after being purchased for $3,750,000.

FYI said...

More backtracking from Milo about the alleged restraining order:


Pretty Bird ‏@Pretty_Bird_0 5m
@MiloandJack @userback @Kateplusmy8 Were you able to get any confirmation on that restraining order you said Kate had?

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m
@Pretty_Bird_0 @userback @Kateplusmy8 No I have not. Person who knows..did not want 2committ 2specifics of court order..so I can't prove it!

I guess that's why Milo DM'd Deanna today, and Deanna wouldn't give her any confirmation.

njay said...

HOWEVER, I must remind you that Robert NEVER said that he ''got the hard drives''. In fact, he has said over and over and over again that he found DISCS and papers in the trash. NOT ''hard drives''
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Romona, you are correct. I was just careless using the words hard drives. I was playing the articles in my head from ROL while looking for my words and carelessly used what they said. My bad. That is a fault of mine and that's why I stay simple minded. lol. Silly me. Thank you for the correction.

NY Julianna said...


So Kate didn't "technically" ask for laptops, but she was sure disappointed when she couldn't get the ones that Sandie gave away.

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What did the NBA lady send, or didn't send, or was rumored to have sent? Was it laptops or iPads?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Milo, responding to proof of the restraining order issued against Jon:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 22m

@Pretty_Bird_0 @userback @Kateplusmy8 No I have not. Person who knows..did not want 2committ 2specifics of court order..so I can't prove it!

So she tweets as fact that there was a restraining order, now she backs down, has deleted the tweet, and then accuses "haters" of spreading lies without proof. She's a real piece of work.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 2m

@stxmom @The_Stir Yep! You're correct. had a 6 month blog spot there. End of January til end of June! loved the opportunity& gr8 exp!

Is that six months? January to February, February to March, March to April, April to May, May to June.

What the heck am I missing?

librarylady said...

LOL, she didn't quite answer the specific question, did she? And I believe that the end of Jan to the end of June is 5 months...


@xxxxx

@Kateplusmy8 your non fans r saying you were fired from @The_Stir I think you agreed to blog for 6 months & your time was up. What's correct


Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8

@xxxxx @The_Stir Yep! You're correct. had a 6 month blog spot there. End of January til end of June! loved the opportunity& gr8 exp!

Unknown said...

Ingrid said... 43
''....All I have seen is the text to Hailey about GOING to get it. Did I miss proof somewhere that he actually got it? Or is the only confirmation verbal from Hailey? (which there is no way to prove because Hailey might just be lying to get back at Jon)''
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Ingrid, there has never been any proof that Jon got the hard drive. As a matter of fact, the way I remember it, KK made the comments from Hailey public, and then Hailey threw a hissy fit, and finally threatened to sue KK if she included them in her law suit against Jon and Robert...that was after KK promised Hailey she would make it clear that she and Jon weren't together when he dated Hailey, so no one would be able to call Hailey a home wrecker. There was much discussion on this blog about that entire exchange...most thinking that Hailey was caught making things up.

FYI said...

A fan asked Kate about her leaving the Stir and Kate responded:

stxmom ‏@stxmom 35m
@Kateplusmy8 your non fans r saying you were fired from @The_Stir I think you agreed to blog for 6 months & your time was up. What's correct

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6m
@stxmom @The_Stir
Yep! You're correct. had a 6 month blog spot there. End of January til end of June! loved the opportunity& gr8 exp!

I guess Kate can't add. End of January until end of June would be 5, count em', 5 months!!

lukebandit said...

OT

A terminally ill young woman receives a final wish days before she dies. Her last wish was to just talk to Bette Midler. I watched it on Godvine. I broke down. Bette was so kind and was worried about her. I think the girls family had sent her a t-shirt and Bette was talking through people who knew them. I don't really know the details.

The phone call came in and it was Bette. Bette choked up when the young woman told her that it was her dream to just to talk to her. Bette told her SHE was the wind beneath HER WINGS and wanted to sing her the song WBMW's. She sang it and the girl gave the phone to someone and she just laid back and listened. At the end Bette choked up and Bette asked her What are your thoughts, What are YOU thinking? And the girl said, you are the best, I can't remember and Bette said, No! It is not about me. It is about YOU, this world would be lousy without you. She told bette that she was driving through. It is a really good video and even though it is very sad, it makes you grateful for what you have in life.

I apologize if I have the facts out of order, but I am so proud of Bette doing this for her! Bette and the young woman were so humble.

Here is the link:

http://www.godvine.com/Bette-Midler-Grants-Dying-Girl-s-Wish-and-Serenades-Her-3552.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6-29-2013

I just put the link in a different browser and it works. If it doesn't it is on Godvine Bette Midler Grants Dying Wish.

Please have Kleenex ready.

capecodmama said...

FYI for anyone interested in seeing this movie. My girlfriend and I went to see The Heat starring Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy and it was hysterical. But be forewarned there was tons of foul language. The f-bomb was flying like the cardinals in my yard.

lukebandit said...

kate would never do a wonderful thing that Bette did. kate had her chance at the fundraiser for the mother of the 2 girls that were killed in the car accident.

Not only did she go, Steve tagged along, so it was just like a date night to her. Then she did the unspeakable. She accepted expensive UGG sandals at the fundraiser table, getting her picture made with her holding up the UGG expensive sandals and brightly shining her veneers to the camera, ONLY inches away from framed pictures of the precious girls that were killed in the accident!

She is a horrid, greedy, evil demon. Her day is coming. IMO, when your contract is not renewed, you are FIRED. She put that thank you, Stir on there to put herself in good light.

The tow truck bog was very bad and the MOMoment. I believe kate went ape you know what in front of C and M and their 2 friends but FORGOT that they were in the SUV with her.

Note to kate and MILO, Go. Pound. Sand.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Twit -- you will be happy to know that it wasn't Kate's tweet. Must have been altered...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 25m
@Pretty_Bird_0 @MiloandJack @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 I KNOW that it's not Kate's tweet.

A Mom said...

Kate came on Tweeter for brief 1 tweet: Kate really doesn't know math..................says she had 6-month contract from end of January to end of June. That's 5-months no other way one can make that 6-months. However, in Kate's "mind" it's 6. Hopefully she doesn't help with the kids math homework. LOL

Kay said...

The Stir tweeted Kate some love. I guess she wasn't fired.

The Stir ‏@The_Stir 28 Jun
#FF love! @aprilhussar @KatePlusMy8 @SuburbanJungle @WWLD_jburt

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I believe Kate it was six months, but I think it ended early. I can add. Usually. That was five months not six. And if she were good why not renew her? It was probably 6 months with the option to renew.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Whoa, the Stir.

Well, looks like the source was wrong.

Unless both parties are playing it all lovey dovey to save face. The Stir wouldn't want to admit they had to fire someone no more than someone fired would want to admit to.

I think this is one for we may never know. I am grateful to Scott.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

LOL, she didn't quite answer the specific question, did she? And I believe that the end of Jan to the end of June is 5 months...

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She's good. If it's one thing she does well, it's word game playing. She may have had a contract for six months, as she said, but it ended in five months. Will she address that? Anyone care to make a bet?

PatK said...

How embarrassing not to know simple math!

Layla said...

Kate has an interesting way of phrasing things.She agreed that it was a 6-month spot,. Then a new sentence saying end of Jan to end of June. Separating the two ideas...very crafty. So, okay, it was a 6-month contract. But it only lasted from the end of Jan to the end of June. Sorry, Kate, we're not dumb enough to be snowed by Kate-speak. End of Jan to end of June is 5 months, not 6. The fans are sure quick to jump on her bandwagon. Apparently they can't add. I'm not surprised.

Unknown said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 62
''Whoa, the Stir.
Well, looks like the source was wrong.''
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Admin...Is THIS what you're talking about?
''The Stir ‏@The_Stir 28 Jun
#FF love! @aprilhussar @KatePlusMy8 @SuburbanJungle @WWLD_jburt''
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If so, I don't see how that tweet proves that KK wasn't fired. They aren't even confirming that she was only hired for six months. I am really confused by your comment.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Person who knows..did not want 2committ 2specifics of court order..so I can't prove it!

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Specifics wouldn't have proved anything. What would have proved it is public record, where restraining orders go. PA's own government web site has a search function for authorized parties for all protections of abuse orders: http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=5368&&PageID=493675&level=4&css=L4&mode=2

If such an order ever existed, a sheeple would have found it. They found his child support.

And Milo, no one said they had proof of anything. What was said is someone sharing what they were told, take with it what you will. " Believe it or not that is up to you" were my exact words. Kate's statement is neither here nor there, because it does not prove that the Stir isn't just being nice and letting her save face. Nothing prevents them from giving her a graceful exit and being the bigger person. Maybe it was just six months (or, five?), or maybe they feel it's not in the best interest to give her a public flogging and pink slip. WHO KNOWS. We're never going to really know what happened in that board room. *Shrug.* The fact is though, a lot of regular Stir readers with verifiable accounts that went back years on that site didn't like her posts and said so. The fact is though, if it was a short contract it wasn't extended.

Sleepless In Seattle said...


I guess that's why Milo DM'd Deanna today, and Deanna wouldn't give her any confirmation.

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Why would Deanna even spout off about a restraining order? It's none of her business, and certainly none of Milo's business. If Milo is as close to Kate as she says she is, and they are always communicatin in other ways, why doesn't she just ask Kate directly? There should be no secrets among intimate friends.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

None of this really matters, she's gone.

The sheep need to stop tweeting BV for help. He can't sue for Kate. The most he could do is help her out if SHE chooses to sue, which to the best of my knowledge she never has with the exception of filing for divorce. Even the suit against Jon has never been filed. It's all talk. They can't seem to understand the concept that you need to have standing to sue. I don't know why they keep tweeting them. They should read the recent defense of marriage Supreme Court case. It explains standing. What it is, how it works, why it was a problem in that case. And why it will be a problem for BV. They also don't understand the concept that lawsuits are all talk until you have a case number.

Sandi said...

One of the last comments on Kates bog is by a non member. MomBlogger is her name. She wrote pretty much what your SOURCE said. All nonmember comments are moderated. I doubt The Stir would let that comment go through if it were not true. IMO.

Ingrid said...

Thanks Remona. I don't remember much about what was said here but hope there is no proof he did take it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yeah wait a minute shouldn't the Stir be sued for letting that comment go on their web site under KATE'S own blog? If I were Kate and that wasn't true I'd be fit to be tied. How dare they. How about go complain to the stir?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Let's assume Kate is telling the truth. I'm not sure why she has to be so unclear. Is it because she just doesn't know how to communicate in an effective manner?

Why not just say "I was NOT fired. My contract has always ended last Thursday. This is what I signed up for since day one. Thanks for asking!"

Be crystal clear with people and it will look less like you are lying or playing word games.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 14m
@userback @Kateplusmy8 Once she blocks U...she can't see ur tweets. send her an e-mail at kate@kateplusmy8.com & explain ur position. :)

Gosh, she's annoying.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 21m
@Kateplusmy8 Well...one tweet in 3 days...we r starving on here! LOL We miss U girl! Take care...lites are going out here! :)

Thank goodness for small favors. LOM may be a blessing in disguise!

I have never done as much head banging as I have when I read sheeple's insane tweets. I've got to stop reading Kate's Twitter. It's like I'm performing a self-lobotomy.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

capecodmama said... 61

FYI for anyone interested in seeing this movie. My girlfriend and I went to see The Heat starring Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy and it was hysterical. But be forewarned there was tons of foul language. The f-bomb was flying like the cardinals in my yard.

Thanks for the update! I want to see this movie and after seeing Identity Thief, I was reluctant to because it was not as funny as Bride Maids. But now I am stoked to see it!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

The fact is though, if it was a short contract it wasn't extended.

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And you know darn well that Kate would have jumped at an extension had it been offered.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

And why it will be a problem for BV. They also don't understand the concept that lawsuits are all talk until you have a case numbe

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But the owner of RWA was issued a subpoena. Doesn't the filing of a lawsuit usually come first?

FYI said...

I have never done as much head banging as I have when I read sheeple's insane tweets. I've got to stop reading Kate's Twitter. It's like I'm performing a self-lobotomy
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Sleepless--I know what you mean. Someone posted the tweets from Kate about the laptops, which I posted here. But the sheeple won't believe it because it came from a "hate site".

IMO, they are getting more desperate to defend Kate. One is posting videos showing Kate's love for the kids, and also videos where she believes Jon is being a lousy father.

I think a lot of it has to do with Robert's posting of all those links to articles that show the negative side of Kate. They are scrambling to show the "good side", but are failing miserably.

It must really suck to be a sheeple, when all the evidence is against you.

Sleepless In Seattle said...


It must really suck to be a sheeple, when all the evidence is against you.

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Not to mention how doggone hot it must be in the summer with all of that wool in their eyes.

Shelby said...

lukebandit said...

(Kate is an)...evil demon


I think that's a bit much. What on earth would you call or categorize pedophiles?? Or Hitler?

Kristine said...

Midnight Madness said... 35
Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it, but why do the sheep have problems with plurals? You'd think if they wanted to call non-fans names, they'd at least know what to do with the word.
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I will never be cruel, but it's really bad. (Some now choose to use "You're" when ever, just because... even when it does not mean you are. Hi, it's your this time.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Goody seems to be saying she has "insider information"

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 5h
@dwerptwerp @Kateplusmy8 Twins love both parents. But just so you know, the twins rarely want to sleep over at their dad's home anymore.

mscatie ‏@mscatie 5h
@msgoody2shoes21 @dwerptwerp @Kateplusmy8 How often do the twins sleep over at dad's house?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 5h
@mscatie @dwerptwerp @Kateplusmy8 Rarely and very close to never. They prefer to stay at their home.

mscatie ‏@mscatie 5h
@msgoody2shoes21 @dwerptwerp @Kateplusmy8 How do you know this?

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 4h
@mscatie @dwerptwerp @Kateplusmy8 I know & others know too. I won't tell you how I know. You can believe it or not. I have no reason to lie.



Looks to me like Kate has given the go-ahead to the sheep to say whatever they feel will take the heat off her.

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Twit -- you will be happy to know that it wasn't Kate's tweet. Must have been altered...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 25m
@Pretty_Bird_0 @MiloandJack @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 I KNOW that it's not Kate's tweet.

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Isn't it funny when there is something negative reported about Kate, or it proves that Kate was behaving badly, that it's always altered, but when the same is said about Jon, it's FACT?

chefsummer #Leh said...

lukebandit said... 60
OT

A terminally ill young woman receives a final wish days before she dies. Her last wish was to just talk to Bette Midler. I watched it on Godvine. I broke down. Bette was so kind and was worried about her. I think the girls family had sent her a t-shirt and Bette was talking through people who knew them. I don't really know the details.
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I saw this in inside edition a fan of Bette was very very sick and she heard about it and she called her and.

Asked if she could do anything for her and the fan said sing.

My favorite song and Bette did and it was so loving and sweet.

I love me some Bette and now I love her even more for what she did.

chefsummer #Leh said...

teresa darienzo ‏@popems42 27 Jun
@MiloandJack @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Milo you need to get your facts straight, NEVER was there restraining order. No disrespect just fact

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 27 Jun
@popems42 @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 It is obvious though he has not been allowed on property...in the house 4quite some time!

Chef❤4food ‏@summerdowling87 27 Jun
@MiloandJack @popems42 @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Jon called the police on Kate that day do to a custody arrangement. & it wwas b4 the div

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 27 Jun
@summerdowling87 @popems42 @RealZiggyFlo ...it was fact when info was given...I will stand down on this til I get it confirmed.

teresa darienzo ‏@popems42 27 Jun
@MiloandJack @summerdowling87 @RealZiggyFlo Thank you for your ability to realize a mistake was made.

Fired Up 4 Kate
‏@MiloandJack
@popems42 @summerdowling87 @RealZiggyFlo Hey..I never would want 2tweet or say something deliberately inaccurate! I realize this is serious.

FYI said...

I just love how the sheeple state things as facts, and when questioned about it, they say "I can't tell you how I know, but I know". Then follow it up with "I have no reason to lie".

Like that's supposed to give them any credibility.

This same Jon-bashing tweeter also said that Kate never tweeted about wanting laptop and demanded proof. When shown the proof she said that she can't believe because it came from a "hate site".

The best one yet was when she tweeted:

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 2h
I'm rootin' & tootin' for Jon Gosselin to get on #DWTS so @Kateplusmy8 can get 80% of his earnings for kids. Remember Jon pays no support!!

If Jon was relieved of child support, why would she think that Kate would get any of Jon's earnings if he appeared on DWTS.

It's just typical sheeple spin. If they say it, it's FACT. But if a non-fan says it, it's lies.

The most telling thing is that Kate just let's them spout things as fact and won't step in to dispute it otherwise. By not saying anything, she condones their lies and spin.






Formerly Duped said...

What a rude thing to say about the twins not wanting to spend time with Jon. It's none of anyone else's business and I'm sure that is exaggerated, or if not, due to some manipulation by Kate- threats, promises,lies etc. Locals here have said all the kids seem very happy in their father's company as opposed to Kate's.

PatK said...

I suspect that perhaps Deanna is the one offering these bits of information about support and/or the twins' preferences regarding their dad to her tweet/dm buddy, Milo.

Layla said...

What is going on with the Twitter fans? It looks like someone declared open season on Jon. Are they just trying to deflect attention from Kate's early exit from The Stir, or are they jealous that Jon has gotten a bit of press lately? Is it because the latest press on Jon isn't bad, while Kate was called out on the picture? I doubt that anyone did more than chuckle at Ed Hardy's claim that Jon destroyed his brand, while there were certainly some people offended by Kate's picture. I imagine Jon, sitting back and watching it all and laughing (if he pays attention at all). He certainly doesn't stoop to the level of responding to them, which drives them nuts. They really want to get under his skin, but they can't even get a reaction out of him. Point for Jon!

I wonder what is going on with R&R marathons. Kate hasn't run for them since December. It doesn't look like they're sponsoring her any longer, or she'd have continued the "tradition" of going to the Litchfield Road Race with the kids this year. If they did cut ties with her, then who is paying for the van? Someone said long ago that R&R leased the new BBB for Kate. Maybe she's having to pay for it herself now. It must make her crazy to have to pay her own bills after so many years of getting others to do it for her.

Silimom said...

Just watched the video of Bette Midler singing to her fan dying of cancer.

Better Midler tells this woman how blessed she is to have gotten to know her story and how thankful she is for her support as a fan. She asks Anna what she, Bette, can do for Anna. Despite her throat bing raw from doing performances of her new show, Bette sings her "Wind Beneath My Wings", her voice breaking at the end as she fights back her own tears.

Kate goes to a Zumba fundraiser to sign books to raise money for the girls killed in a car accident. She walks away with a new pair of shoes.

Compare and contrast. This is the difference between a star and a celebrity.

FYI said...

PatK said... 93
I suspect that perhaps Deanna is the one offering these bits of information about support and/or the twins' preferences regarding their dad to her tweet/dm buddy, Milo.
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I believe you're right. Deanna feeds info to Milo and other Kate fans, and because Deanna says it, it must be FACT.

Kate doesn't refute any of it. She seems to love that her fans, and BFF will continue to bash Jon, and put her in a good light, as the long-suffering mother.

Basically, that's what Kate's persona has turned out to be. She is still playing the victim, whether it's due to her "bullies", her ex, Robert or the tabloids. And she will continue to do so.

Kate has found her niche-perennial victim, and she will continue to use that as an excuse for being the way she is.



Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

PatK said... 93
I suspect that perhaps Deanna is the one offering these bits of information about support and/or the twins' preferences regarding their dad to her tweet/dm buddy, Milo.
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It seems that way with Milo's "DM" tweets to both Deanna and MsGoody. If that's the case has Kate told Deanna what to say?

Considering Kate's email to Hailey Glassman in March saying if Hailey gave Kate permission to use her text messages with Jon, she (Kate) would tell everyone that Hailey and Jon didn't get together until after she and Jon had been broken up for a year (thus dispelling rumors Hailey was a homewrecker):

“But once I dropped out Kate bullied my mom on the phone with her manipulation tactics. I called Kate to explain why we weren’t doing it and she cut me off and said, ‘Hailey this is good for you. It will clear your reputation and I will state what a good person you are and how you didn’t come into the picture dating Jon until a year after we broke up."

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/im-suing-kate-gosselin-for-releasing-my-texts-that-proved-jon-gave-computer-to-author-says-hailey-glassman/

I find that statement to show how manipulative Kate can be.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I think her son would rather play with one of the crew in his stateroom. I hope the ship has closed-circuit television for his adult viewing pleasure. 10

You are confusing Paula's son with her brother Bubba, who is the one accused of subjecting others to his porn watching habits.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Essentially Kate tried to make Hailey her pawn. It's all so juvenile.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Yes, Kate is a user. That's very apparent after reading what Hailey had to say. And now Kate is using Milo and MsGoody. Kate knows perfectly well that they will say whatever she wants them to say, heck with truth.

NJGal51 said...

@XXXXXX: @MiloandJack Why are these people coming at me on here talking about kate calling her body guard mr.chocolate just becuz I said she's (1/2)

@MiloandJack: @XXXXXX U are young...& I guess they think they can poison ur mind abt Kate. The Mr. chocolate things was a term of endearment ....

@MiloandJack: @XXXXXX It may have come fr the bodyguard himself...he was close 2the Gosselin kids...traveled alot w/them on TLC trips! #NoHateAtAll

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't imagine anything more inappropriate and violating than some insider telling Milo how the kids feel about their mom OR their dad. What if the kids saw this? She needs to butt the heck out. She has no idea if it's true and even if true there could be many reasonable reasons why they would prefer to be in the same bed at night.Or Kate's parental alienation has worked, could be that. Bottom line Milo needs to back the heck off.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

"Mr. chocolate things was a term of endearment..." Yeah, sure.

I think Kate's uber secretly want to destroy her.

Reminds me of Mayor (Willie Wonka) Nagin after Hurricane Katrina. He was conducting a speech, and mentioned something about wanting New Orleans to become a "chocolate city" again.

I remember everyone saying, WTF?



A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Oops. I just caught my typo:

I meant to say, I think Kate's uber fans secretly want to destroy her.

There, that's better.

silimom said...

...she cut me off and said, ‘Hailey this is good for you. It will clear your reputation and I will state what a good person you are and how you didn’t come into the picture dating Jon until a year after we broke up."

Hmmm...so Jon and Hailey didn't get together until May of 2009. Based on Kate's alleged statement to Hailey, that would mean that Kate and Jon's marriage was over in May of 2008. About the time they were going to North Carolina for the vacation show and looking at houses.

fidosmommy said...

Reaching way upthread, since I'm just catching up:
"What did the NBA lady send, or didn't send, or was rumored to have sent? Was it laptops or iPads?"

******
They were I pOds I believe, not ipAds.

silimom said...

As for the twins not wanting to sleep at Jon's - my understanding is that Jon is living in a small house out in the woods. I thought I read somewhere that it was 3 bedrooms, but I could be wrong.

The twins are now 12 and 1/2. Honestly, they probably don't want to hang out at dad's all that much if it's out in the middle of nowhere. Not that Kate's house is right in the middle of town, but their computers are there, there's more room so they can get away from their little siblings, etc.

Milo didn't say that they didn't want to spend time with their dad, just that they didn't want to sleep at his house. I wouldn't read too much into it. I think it's a pretty typical teenage response.

I do agree, though, that this information should not have been posted at all. It's no one's business, really, except Mady, Cara, Jon and Kate's.

My understanding is Kate isn't tweeting very much? Whatever the reason, good for her. We've been telling her for months to rein it in. Glad to see she's doing that.

Somewhere In Time said...

I have a feeling that this "insider" stuff may be coming from Deanna, who is feeding it to Milo, who is passing it along to Goody and others. I think Deanna, who is young and eager to show that she is "close" to Kate and has to defend her and pass along information, hasn't yet learned what it means to be discreet.

Milo, in her "know everything about Kate" mode, passes it along. She crossed the line when she commented on the restraining order, and then had no way of proving it. All of them need to know when to zip it. They are going to go too far and say something, whether it's accurate or not, and all hell is going to break loose.

Kate needs to shut that Twitter down because there are some on there who, because of ignorance (or they are naive) are going to stick their feet in their mouths and it's not going to be good.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sillimom that's completely possible. It's more of a hassle for a girl that age to be switching houses all the time. They may feel they see their father plenty and spending the night is more trouble than it's worth. Without any more details its wrong to imply something sinister. And if it's Deanna putting this out there shame on her.

LB said...

I think Milo just slipped up regarding Kate's tweets & picture of the three with the laptops. In one tweet, Milo said Kate wasn't begging but was willing to take secondhand stuff. I'm sure Kate didnt ask for SECONDHAND things she thinks the children needs. So how does mo knows that and how did she know Kate was accepting used goods? I still she was throwing that picture out to tug at people's heats to get someone to send her stuff. That's Grifting 101, basically. If I needed something, I wouldn't have posted a picture making the laptops the main topic of my tweet. I would have said kids were doing homework or how cute they look or something like that and left it at that.

PatK said...

I see that creepy Matt Heckman has crawled out of the sewer on Twitter and offering to provide more examples of anti-Kate hate if subpoenaed. Ick.

TLC stinks said...

I agree about the twins perhaps wanting to not spend the night at their dad's. They are at the age they want privacy (I was that way and my daughter was that way) and they cannot get much privacy at Jon's if all are crowded together in his small home. From Kate's tweets, it did appear to me that she would have the twins while Jon had the tups.

Millicent said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 82

And why it will be a problem for BV. They also don't understand the concept that lawsuits are all talk until you have a case numbe

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But the owner of RWA was issued a subpoena. Doesn't the filing of a lawsuit usually come first?
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Yes, in civil cases, one must first file a lawsuit, serve the named defendants, and then issue subpoenas. That's why I think if the owner of RWA was served with a subpoena - I hope she took it to a competent attorney. Sounds fishy to me - and I'd love to know what attorney signed that subpoena. I think it was a phony subpoena and whoever sent it to the owner of RWA ought to be outed and the appropriate charges filed. If a lawsuit had been filed, - someone would have tracked it down by now. No lawsuit has been filed by Kate against Jon, no lawsuit has been filed by BV against any bloggers, because if they had - it would be public record and would have been found by now.

fidosmommy said...

Jon might limit the twins' text time, at least more than Kate does. Jon might want to go out places with the family but no place that is great for a 9 year old is going to thrill a 12 year old. Even picking out a movie at home could be tough. If I were 12, surrounded by 6 nine year olds, I would want to go to my room and hang out with my stereo, my own movies, my phone and myself. They can escape to the room Kate never enters and never be heard from until it's time for Mommy's back massage and texting each other in her room. At Jon's that privacy and solitude would be hard to find.

TLC stinks said...

No way is calling someone who is black, Mr. Chocolate, a term of endearment. That is racist. How come the kids called Steve by his first name and not Mr. Silver? Milo is just shooting off her mouth.

handinhand said...

I wonder how much Kate would even enjoy the twins being home with her during their otherwise scheduled time with Jon. She's made enough snide comments about those "tween" years to make me think she dreads the thought of prepubescent parenting. She may not even give the girls a say in where they wish to spend custodial time. Look at the clip of the RV episode when she hollers over to Jaimie's bus something like 'how are the tween attitudes going'. Jaimie rightly responds, 'Fine, their attitudes go away when they come over here'. Kate admitted on that trip that she was the one who doled out the seating assignments for that trip and I thought at that time it was because she wanted little to do with that tween age group.

Unknown said...

PatK said... 93
''I suspect that perhaps Deanna is the one offering these bits of information about support and/or the twins' preferences regarding their dad to her tweet/dm buddy, Milo.''
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I agree that Deanna is the one that is passing on information (that she got from KK.) BUT, since we know that KK is a lying liar who lies, why on this green earth would anyone ever believe a word out of KK's mouth?

Mel said...

I sure wish people would not invade the kids' privacy like that. That's a private matter, not for anyone to know. Pathetic that someone felt the need to publicly gossip about another family.

lukebandit said...

kate is demonic. Have you seen the video where she is hitting Emeril on the arm once, then she turned and looked at him and hit him again, you could see a demon in her face. I was taken aback.

Those poor kids have to see that everyday. The knob off the dresser drawer, the gum on the lovey bear, the whipping with the wooden spoon, the rage of bagging their belongings and throwing them down the stairs, lashing out about the popcorn being spilled in her precious vehicle.

Pedophiles have many legions of demons. Hitler had legions and legions and his officers did too. Just one legion is 10K demons.

Children First said...

I can't imagine anything more inappropriate and violating than some insider telling Milo how the kids feel about their mom OR their dad. What if the kids saw this? She needs to butt the heck out. She has no idea if it's true and even if true there could be many reasonable reasons why they would prefer to be in the same bed at night.Or Kate's parental alienation has worked, could be that. Bottom line Milo needs to back the heck off.

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Milo is going to do or say something that is going to put her on time-out for a very long time. It will happen. She doesn't know when to shut the heck up. She's so anxious to make it appear that she and Kate are so close that Kate shares everything with her. If Kate doesn't put an end to this, Milo will do it to herself with something she leaks as "fact."

A Mom said...

Kat popped on tweeter an hour ago asking "what's happening?" No one has answered her not even Milo!!

Winsomeone said...

Read some of Kate's last post. In it, she claims it was the longest text of her life. Surely she isn't claiming that her entire post fit into a single text? Also, was looking at the picture,and to me, it isn't the hand holding an adult does with a child, but the hand holding of two lovers. I wonder if that is what she really meant to convey?

chefsummer #Leh said...

A Mom said... 120
Kat popped on tweeter an hour ago asking "what's happening?" No one has answered her not even Milo!!
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Yeah but she got 4 re-tweets and 22 favorites.

That counts for something right?-(lol)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I know Milo reads here, and I wish she would stop to think for once, just once, about how hard it must be to be not just a child of a divorce, but a child of a very public divorce that was splashed on every tabloid. And then imagine how that child might feel if you were discussing their private relationship with their parent and how they feel about them. Unbelievable. I don't know what Milo's obsession is lately with revealing all of this info, most of which sounds suspiciously inaccurate anyway, but she needs to stop and think.

Kelly said...

Someone might want to warn the PA Department Of State that one of their registered & licensed nurses cannot correctly add. I would not want to rely on her to administer medications. Not that she'll ever return to the mediocre field of nursing but it still is a bit worrisome...

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Not in Milo's vocabulary : the words 'stop' and 'think'.

Layla said...

Ziggyflo has a Youtube channel of Jon's worst moments. I don't get the logic-- Kate mocking Asians is "nothing", her calling an African American man Mr. Chocolate (and encouraging her kids to do the same) is a term of endearment, but Jon telling Aaden, "Don't be a wimpy" is terrible parenting. Am I missing something?
Also, the clip of Jon saying he came up with a great game, tying some rope to barbed wire and letting the kids swing it around in the air and hoping they don't hit each other was obviously a joke, but she thinks he literally did that. I saw that episode--he was kidding. Sheep have no sense of humor.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When the sextuplets are with Jon it's also probably one of the few times the twins get a break from them. They may enjoy having the house to themselves. It can't be easy to have six little brothers and sisters. Few 12 year olds want anything to do with a nine year old. They are hitting the age where it's very important to them to feel grown up and anyone younger is a "baby."

Of course none of these perfectly reasonable explanations are considered by Milo, who only wants to think that they hate him. They are just giddy with the idea the kids might hate Jon as much as they do. It's very sad. Don't they WANT the kids to love Jon and have a positive relationship with their father? How many horror stories have we heard of children having issues later in life because of bad or no relationships with their fathers? I want the children to have a good relationship with both parents, for their sake. My dislike of Kate doesn't go so far that I would wish ill on these poor kids and their relationship with her. This is the only mother they've got, for better or worse.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Layla, wouldn't you know it, taking things very literally and no sense of humor are HALLMARKS for narcissists. I knew that even before getting educated on this disorder.

Narcissists have little sense of humor. They don't get jokes, not even the funny papers or simple riddles, and they don't make jokes, except for sarcastic cracks and the lamest puns. This is because, lacking empathy, they don't get the context and affect of words or actions, and jokes, humor, comedy depend entirely on context and affect.

NJGal51 said...

Is Milo getting in a not so subtle dig at Kate for her speeding tickets. Not only did she tweet this last night but she tweeted it again today to make sure Kate doesn't miss it.

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Did U see the Vanity plate I suggested 4U last nite? "HIOFFICER" LOL Might as well be friendly b4 they pull us over, right? :)

fidosmommy said...

Re: Kate and the Stir. Could Kate have quit, finding it just too much work to have to come up with a real topic every single week? That seems so hard for her. So she talks about nothing. Jerry Seinfeld became seriously famous and made a mint off of a show about nothing, but Kate hasn't fared so well.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Fido yes and they could have friends over without the "pesky" nine year olds in the way.

I think at 12 it wouldn't thrill me to go over to a friend's with that many little kids around.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

LookingGlass, I have NEVER permitted this blog to talk about how the children feel or what they are going through. Ever. We don't even post photos of their faces anymore. Milo took this way further than I have ever seen anyone, gator OR fan do, and it's unacceptable. Even most of the fans leave the kids out of it. It's pretty bad when Milo is doing things even the other fans don't do.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anonymous, you cannot come up with a single example of this blog EVER revealing personal information about how the children feel.

Not about ice cream, teddy bears, or their mother and father. It's off limits. And I wouldn't talk to any sources that were claiming to talk about how the children feel. I find the very idea disgusting.

If you can point me to anything here that even suggests such a thing, I will immediately delete it. You have my word on that.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, but it IS interesting timing. Lisa at RWA received her subpoena on Friday, June 7, and closed her blog the same day, immediately after having the subpoena verified. According to the poster at Kate's blog, June 7 (the day of Kate's crazy, day-late gas post) is also the day everything was hitting the fan at the Stir for Kate.

So...
(1) Is the timing pure coincidence?
-or-
(2) Did Bullyville somehow plan it for that day on purpose believing "haters were causing Kate to get fired AGAIN"?
-or-
(3) Was the day Kate got her last and best dig in on Lisa also the day Karma had enough and decided to circle around and boot Kate in the a$$?

I'll take what's behind Door #3, Monty!

FYI said...

@MiloandJack: @XXXXXX U are young...& I guess they think they can poison ur mind abt Kate. The Mr. chocolate things was a term of endearment

Milo is defending Kate's calling the black bodyguard "Mr. Chocolate". So apparently she believes it to be true.

The only place I heard about that was in Robert's book. It was in Robert's own words, not in an email or journal of Kate's. So is Milo admitting that what Robert wrote in his book is true?


Layla said...

Virginia Pen Mom (135),
I also vote for Door #3! It's about time Kate got some quick Karmic retribution for her nasty deeds.

Fidosmommy (131) I doubt Kate would quit, since that was her only stable source of income. As many here have said, no matter how much money she has stashed away, she's still looking at 10 more years before the tups are even out of high school, plus 4+ years of college after that. If she's not working to bring in an income to supplement whatever she has saved, then she's looking at some serious problems down the road.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


There's tons of people posting here about the kids.

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Oh, I think we're just misunderstanding each other. I'm not trying to say people don't discuss the kids sometimes. Obviously. What I said was I don't permit posts about how the children feel. There's a difference. A huge one IMO.

I have no problem with a fan saying this or that one is very cute, this or that one is getting so tall, this or that one looks like her mom, or her dad. I DO have a problem when MIlo is saying someone told me how this child feels and I'm going to tell you what they told me. This is the only time I have EVER seen fan or gator do such a thing. It's one thing to make a general observation based on what we all can see, quite another to talk to a souce and then violate a child's private feelings. Really, her source should be even more ashamed.

Hannah said...

P. Deen will be hung for this. Why is anyone discussing the Gosselin divorce still to this day?

Do you all really care about her? She is not worth the time nor is her ex husband.

P. Deen will resurface, she has 2 very intelligent sons who understand the business.

funny how all these "fast money makers" do fall from grace just as fast as they climb the ladder of success.

Think it is called "nothing lasts forever" especially not the world of reality TV.

Mel said...

* her source should be even more ashamed.*

Agree!! Yes, yes,yes!!!
How are they going to look God in the eye and say they did the right thing by those children...

Hoosier Girl said...

Speaking of people (like Kate) trying to make themselves relevant again .. I had to Google this Heckman guy! LOL! Kate's ass is pretty skinny these days, I'm not sure she can fit one more person on her coattails.

Northwest said...

I have NEVER permitted this blog to talk about how the children feel or what they are going through. Ever.

and

you cannot come up with a single example of this blog EVER revealing personal information about how the children feel.




EXAMPLE 1 - They may enjoy having the house to themselves. It can't be easy to have six little brothers and sisters. Few 12 year olds want anything to do with a nine year old. They are hitting the age where it's very important to them to feel grown up and anyone younger is a "baby."

EXAMPLE 2 - They may feel they see their father plenty and spending the night is more trouble than it's worth.


You have unclean hands, my friend.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Northwest what aren't you understanding about this? Milo talked to a "source" who told her how the kids REALLY feel. She then shared it. How they REALLY FEEL.

No one here has ever done that. Saying oh well I THINK the kids like filming or don't like, or I THINK the kids may grow up to like or not like their mom or dad, is outright apples and oranges.

I didn't realize I had to be that specific when I explained why what Milo did was wrong. It should be obvious why what she is doing is a problem and something NO fan or gatar has ever done, to my recollection. She talked to someone who told her how the kids feel, then she took it upon herself to share it. It's outrageous.

But absolutely, speculation about what might happen here goes on here, no one is doubting that. It would be silly to say that doesn't happen. No one suggested that.

PatK said...

So some people still don't get the difference between speculation/opinions and revealing supposedly true personal revelations? Wow.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Pat apparently so. Oh well. As most people know a handful of insider people have reached out to this blog over the years. Ashley, Em Tanner, and a few others who don't want to be named. And I have to say, not a single one, not one, ever once told me how the children feel. They talked about their experience with Jon and Kate. All you would hear about the kids are, they're great thanks.

I appreciate these sources for always have respect for the children when blowing the whistle on this saga. Milo is welcome to talk to insiders if they want to talk, but leave the kids out of it as many other sources have managed to do before them. DEANNA.

seven said...

Virginia Pen Mom said... 135
Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, but it IS interesting timing. Lisa at RWA received her subpoena on Friday, June 7, and closed her blog the same day, immediately after having the subpoena verified. According to the poster at Kate's blog, June 7 (the day of Kate's crazy, day-late gas post) is also the day everything was hitting the fan at the Stir for Kate.

So...
(1) Is the timing pure coincidence?
-or-
(2) Did Bullyville somehow plan it for that day on purpose believing "haters were causing Kate to get fired AGAIN"?
-or-
(3) Was the day Kate got her last and best dig in on Lisa also the day Karma had enough and decided to circle around and boot Kate in the a$$?
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Here's my theory of what happened with Lisa closing the blog.

I think she might have received a communication from a law firm in regards to alleged death threats and other issues. After verifying it, I think she was offered the choice to close the blog ASAP or face action herself and eventually receive a subpoena for the IP addresses of her posters. She chooses to close the blog and in trying to draft an explanation for this, she says she received a subpoena. Unaware that there cannot be a subpoena without a lawsuit being filed first. Kate does not want to spend one more dime than she has to, I'm sure she wasn't looking for a drawn out thing.. getting RWA shut down was a pretty good outcome for her, I'm sure.

Melissa NV said...

I didn't realize I had to be that specific when I explained why what Milo did was wrong. It should be obvious why what she is doing is a problem and something NO fan or gatar has ever done, to my recollection. She talked to someone who told her how the kids feel, then she took it upon herself to share it. It's outrageous.

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It's not only outrageous, it's insane and shows a complete lack of regard for these children. I always thought that for her and for some of the fans, the kids are secondary. It's Kate who they worship. No person, I don't care if it's a sheep or a hater should ever take it upon themselves to reveal personal information regarding those children, even if they do, in fact, have insider information. I think the reason Milo does it is to show that she's in the know, that Kate is so close to her that she trusts her. I really wish that someone who actually is friends with Kate could explain the facts of life here. Milo needs to keep her lips zipped and her tweeting fingers behind her back.

There are some on here who do know Kate, know the children, perhaps know Jon, and live in the same community, and even those people are careful in making sure that personal things, such as their school activities, schedules, likes and dislikes, talents, are not revealed. Milo lives how many states away from Kate, has never met her or Jon or the children, has never been to the kids' school or church or home, and takes it upon herself to put out information about the children's relationship to their father, as well as how horrible Jon is. That is wrong.

"So some people still don't get the difference between speculation/opinions and revealing supposedly true personal revelations? Wow."

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Nope. And they never will because they were out doing something else when reading comprehension/understanding and logical thinking were passed out.

Not a Hater, Not a Khater, and Not a Gator said...

Milo is the one who thought she was so clever the other day when she coined the term "gators", for Gosselin Haters.

Admin, PLEASE stop using that term. We are not haters, and certainly not haters of the Gosselins.

Thank you.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Who is this Matt Heckman? He's a conservative talk show host who knows BV and is going to testify for Kate if need be. He says vendetta (against Kate?) started back in 2005 with Reading Eagle staff:

Matt Heckman ‏@matt_heckman 48m
@msgoody2shoes21 @RealZiggyFlo @IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 At the root of it it was all Reading Eagle staffers/former staffers with a vendetta

I can't remember hearing about him before.

zonita said...

Matt Heckman is an effing looney. The less anyone has to do with him, the happier they will be.

Melissa NV said...

Paula and her crumbling empire, she should have taken Warren Buffet's advice...

Excerpts:

"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently," Buffett has said. Deen would have done well to remember that...

Buffet is right. Reputation is everything, and associating with a damaged celeb such as Deen is tantamount to damaging the brand. Take heed, investors. Know the ambassadors behind the brands you're investing in. Know what they sell, and how much they account for.

In this case, Deen's implosion isn't on the scale of what might have happened to Nike were Michael Jordan to suffer a scandal at the height of his stardom. Deen's star doesn't shine that bright, and most of her sponsors are already well-diversified businesses.

Call it a warning shot. Right now, it's Deen and not investors that are feeling the pain. We might not be so lucky next time."

Unknown said...

Melissa NV said... 147
''....No person, I don't care if it's a sheep or a hater should ever take it upon themselves to reveal personal information regarding those children, even if they do, in fact, have insider information.''
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I agree that it IS wrong for Milo to speak as though she actually knows how any of the children feel about their father.

I think what is even worse is that her so called ''insider information'' came from someone that supposedly got that ''insider information'' from KK....the same person that gave Milo the ''insider information'' about a ''restraining order'', which we know is NOT true.

To believe a single thing that comes from the mouth of KK, the lying liar who lies, is an exercise in stupidity! OK....an exercise in stupidity. Did I just explain why Milo says what she does?

seven said...

zonita said... 150
Matt Heckman is an effing looney. The less anyone has to do with him, the happier they will be.
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He is on Kate's side, but for a short time he was really angry with Jon & Kate. Here's one of his blog posts from 2009:

May 26, 2009 by Matt Heckman.

As most of you know I was one of the few bloggers in cyber space to defend The Gosselins in the beginning. I still believe that they were mistreated, as they did not fit the template in the media for collecting welfare benefits, however in light of all the hard evidence that has been developing from their family to their ponzi scams at churches, I can not justify their behavior.

When you go into a house of God and lie about your financial status, and collect money from people in that church where most of these people live paycheck to paycheck, not only is that stealing, but it’s criminal fraud. Churches throughout the country are already struggling just to get by on day to day operations and their main sources of revenue are general donations, but most importantly offerings during the service. The Gosselins call this source of their income “love offerings”. The fraud continues as they also charge for autograph pictures at $20.00 a piece all under the banner “it’s for the children”.

Needless to say the children are far from crying poverty, as The Gosselins have reported to make over 3 million last year from their reality show alone, and not including all the freebies, trips, love offerings, etc.

I have got several opinions from criminal law experts in The Commonwealth where some of these people have spoke to some of the churches that complained they were defrauded by The Gosselins and they have all told me that there is more than enough evidence for PA Attorney General Tom Corbett to go forward with a case for fraud against The Gosselins, as well as for The U.S. Attorney General as The Gosselins have conducted this “love offering” scam on a nationwide scale as their methods are very similar to charity style Ponzi schemes.

Last but not least I contacted Tom Corbett’s office without giving my name of course asking the babe who answered the phone if The Gosselins were indeed conducting fraud. The babe on the phone to my amazement said that they have been receiving numerous calls a day asking about The Gosselin Family and their actions especially involving “love offerings”. She then forwarded me to another lady who is the unofficial PR whore for these calls, and all I got was “Mr. Corbett strongly believes that fraud on all levels must be dealt with, however in light of The Gosselins that is currently not an option that Mr. Corbett is considering at this time as it could be harmful to their 8 children.”


localyocul said...

Yeah who is Matt Heckman? My sister is friends with some Heckmans who live in Wernersville I wonder if they are related

Craziness said...

MsGoody said earlier that she hopes Jon is nailed to a cross upside down. Smh.

One can't make this up...

DisgustedwithKate said...

I really cannot believe that Milo thinks Kate calling her bodyguard "Mr. Chocolate" is a term of "endearment". While I do NOT believe Kate is an outright racist there were times I have felt she has shown herself as racially ignorant. For example, does anyone remember the episode when the kids went to see the Harlem Globetrotters and one of the kids referred to the players as "bad guys". Since most if not all the players are African-American I always wondered about that comment. Also, the time when Kate was bragging that she speaks "ghetto" and thinking it was cute. Also, when Kate was on Dancing with the Stars didn't she make some sort of comment to Niecy Nash (who is African-American) about dancing. I do not remember the details but I remember Niecy seemed a bit peeved at Kate. I also wonder how Ms. Goody would feel if someone were to refer to her as "Ms. Chocolate". My guess is she would not like it one bit and would run crying to Bullyville.

Susie Cincinnati said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 11m
@Kateplusmy8 Whatever ur up 2.. remember I have confidence in U! Go 4the goal 'cause I've got ur back. Give it all U've got & I'll do same!

I'm sure that this is always in Kate's mind...that Milo has confidence in her. Kate certainly would be way down in the dumps with a case of severe depression if she ever thought that Milo didn't believe in her and have her "back." Geez.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@Kateplusmy8 I understand how when Ur used 2 a literal #FullHouse..when the 6 are gone so is part of ur heart! Always nice 2have them home!

She just won't shut up. Does Kate still respond to Milo's fawning over her?

Silimom said...

Admin, I think the miscommunication is that Northwest(?) is taking our speculation about why the kids would not want to be over at their dad's as a discussion of the kids' feelings. We do do that over here - speculate that is.

But that is different (at least in my book) then posting something like "I talked to my source who knows the family and can tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the twins don't like going to their dad's". That is not speculation (if you trust the source), that is fact.

I suppose the other perspective could be that since we are discussing Milo's tweet, we are discussing the kids feelings here. I suppose you could have not allowed Milo's tweet to go through in the comments. Personally, I don't have a problem discussing how the kids might or might not feel about something in a general way. I have issues with people putting words in their mouths.


One thing lost in all of this - If Milo's info is indeed true, then you have a Dad (Jon) who is respecting his daughters' wishes and not forcing them to do something they don't want to.

And as I said before, Milo to her credit only said they didn't want to sleep over at their Dad's. that is different then "never want to see him again".

For the record, the sextuplets are 9 not 6. The twins will be 13 in October.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Did someone say they were six? I missed that.

I know Kate ACTS like they're six!

Unknown said...

Craziness said... 155
''MsGoody said earlier that she hopes Jon is nailed to a cross upside down. Smh.''
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Don't forget Robert. She wants both Jon and Robert to be nailed to a cross upside down. There is something seriously wrong with someone who says such things!

Layla said...

Oh, my, Twitter is on fire tonight! The fans are in a tizzy, thinking that this Matt Heckman is going to expose everyone and vindicate poor little Kate. One of them even came up with a title for a book for Matt to write about Kate and her ordeal. But as soon as one of the non-fans started taking screenshots and pointing out libelous statements, ol' Matt is trying to backpedal and get out of this mess. He apparently thought he could swoop in and make himself into some kind of hero for Kate. He didn't realize that the ones who are truly out of control over there are the fans. He needs to stay away before they get him into trouble. Now they'll never leave him alone, just like IMPerel and BV. He'll be cc'd on every tweet, and expected to come to Kate's rescue. He's going to wish he'd never gotten involved.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

sweetbren66
@Kateplusmy8 Hi ... How have you been? Rainy day in PA :( We have not spoke in a bit. I hope all is well. Busy w/ur cookbook coming out :)

Aw, Brenda, what's the matter? Feeling ignored? Kate didn't appreciate those UGG sandals, or maybe they didn't fit? Did you get that invitation to swim in Kate's pool? Speaking of invitations, have Emily and Austin said when the meet and greet has been scheduled?

I see that a few of the fans are making what could be construed as libelous statements. They better be careful. It's almost as if once they get started, they can't stop. The hatred they have against Jon is very scary. I hope that someone is getting screen shots of all of this. You just never know what is going to happen.

Milo appears to be in this so deep that Kate will never be able to wean her. She needs help. Celebrity Worship Syndrome is no joke and this just isn't the case of a fan being caught up in the world of a "famous" person that they admire. I can't understand why her family isn't around to do some sort of intervention. I wonder if they are unaware exactly how much this Kate obsession has grown.

"And as I said before, Milo to her credit only said they didn't want to sleep over at their Dad's. that is different then "never want to see him again"."

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Milo had no business putting any of that out on Twitter. She doesn't know that, and even if she did get it from the horse's mouth, she had no reason for sharing it on Twitter or anywhere else.

Susie Cincinnati said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 37m

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@Kateplusmy8 @LifeTools "Once you've accepted your flaws no one can use them against you." I introduce myself as short & slow! LOL

Milo has just said a real mouthful! I'm not going to touch that with a 10-foot pole! ;-)

Layla said...

The cookbook has sold 61 copies in June ( 55 in the US, 5 in the UK, and 1 in Canada). That's a total of 226 books pre-ordered in Amazon, and probably no more than 400 pre-ordered, total. Her numbers are going down each month. I wonder what her July sales will look like. My guess is around 50. We'll just have to wait and see...

Craziness said...

MsGoody even tweeted this ...

Thuggies. Bullies. Witches. Punks. Cruel. Evil. Stalkers. Racists. Belligerent. Hateful. Nosy. Hurtful. Intimidation. Threats. @Kateplusmy8

Yep, she's lost it. I think she's describing herself in some of hat.

Melissa NV said...

Yep, she's lost it. I think she's describing herself in some of hat.

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Totally lost it. Someone needs to step in here. Kate, this is one of your fans. For gosh sakes, take this twitter down so it isn't a forum for this rage. Is this really want you want on your page...it's an embarrassment to your! She's tweeting this to YOU! It's evident she needs help!

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21
Fakers. Fake child advocates. Liars. Misogynistic. Soul crushers. Mob mentality. Social media gang bangers. Soulless. Lynchings

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21
Jealous. Devious. Sneaky. Backstabbers. Virtual knife wielding. Venomous. Cyanide thoughts. Destroyers of families. Judgmental. @Kateplusmy8

chefsummer #Leh said...

Not a Hater, Not a Khater, and Not a Gator said...

Admin, PLEASE stop using that term. We are not haters, and certainly not haters of the Gosselins.
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I so agree.

JoyinVirginia said...

Virginia Pen Mom, I agree door #3 sounds most likely! Every time I read about the twitter cesspool it makes me wonder who has the time to waste on it.
OT because I am bored with twidiots.
Big Brother is really fun to watch. The casting folks did a good job! Rachel s sister, pizza delivery guy, southern bearded guy, gay guy, Texas gals and guy y'all, political consultant, lifeguard guy, entrepreneur guy, people just looking for showmance, fun bunch! Twist in the rules this year, head of household nominates two for eviction, AND viewers vote on who is playing best game that week, and that person gets to nominate one other person. The person voted best player is secret from the other hamsters, er houseguests and the person they nominate. Clever twist to mix things up for people who are super fans.
I am not a gator, alligator, crocodile, or any type of reptile, nor do I play one on TV. However I have been researching places in the us you can see alligators, and may post some of my findings on Wednesday and Thur.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 1h

@matt_heckman I will DM you some email addresses and other contact info within couple days if somebody else doesn't beat me to it.

MsGoody2Shoes21 MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 1h

@matt_heckman From now on use DMs to communicate. Keep the haters out of your business. They seemed frightened you came to say hello. DM too

What is she doing? Aligning herself with Heckman? For what purpose? Good gosh!

Ingrid said...

Does Kate ever tweet to Goody? I wonder if Kate hasn't blocked her long ago.

fidosmommy said...

I'd say Crazy. Nuts. Hateful. Blind (as in refusing to see.) Misguided. @MsShoosy

JoyinVirginia said...

Watching the news. Tragedy, firefighters in Arizona died. So incredibly sad.

PatK said...

I think that last paragraph of Mr. Heckman's blog post quoted above speaks for itself as to his character.

'Nuff said.

PatK said...

Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack32m
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Goody ...DM me 4 a minute.

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Milo posted this tweet approximately one minute before her "lights out time". I'm hopeful it was to suggest to MsGoody to tone it down a notch.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo posted this tweet approximately one minute before her "lights out time". I'm hopeful it was to suggest to MsGoody to tone it down a notch.

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I saw that. Goody needs more than advice to tone it down. She really needs help. Here's what is frightening with this whole bully outing thing. A few of the haters' names are known. Their addresses are known. Then you have a fan who obviously has gone over the deep edge with her hatred of Jon and the non-fans. With someone like that, who has severe mental issues and suffers from rage, who knows what they are going to do with that personal information?

Ex Nurse said...

Matt Heckman is a great example of the kind of people that Kate attracts. Referring to the babe and whore that works in Tom Corbett's office--real class act.

Isn't the Reading Eagle staffer that had a so-called vendetta against Kate Dana Hoffman--Robert's wife?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Wasn't the "vendetta" about the good people of PA's tax dollars being spent on a nurse for six perfectly healthy babies, and other unnecessary support services? Wasn't it sort of the first article to expose the scam for what it was? How dare any locals question where their hard earned money from a real job went. How dare they want to know if someone was trying to get even more money out of them.

Just read about the firefighters. They don't know how this happened yet. So awful.

NJGal51 said...

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the Prescott firefighters who lost their lives today battering the Yarnell Hill wildfire. RIP to true heroes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Here's an old comment from Judy and myself from 2011 that ties in with what Ex Nurse said earlier about intelligence:

JudyK has left a new comment on your post "Jon picks up pizza with the kids":

Administrator said... There are a lot of intelligent people who act kind of dumb with no common sense. Or who have very poor social skills or who have other aspects of themselves where they seem rather delayed. The problem is people assume because you're strong in one area you must be in all areas. For example, a sheeple assuming because someone is a lawyer, they must have perfection in their spelling.
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I've worked for a ton of attorneys, and none of them could spell and few knew anything about grammar. I am excellent at spelling and grammar, but I couldn't be an attorney. We all have different talents.

fidosmommy said...

I've worked for a ton of attorneys, and none of them could spell and few knew anything about grammar. I am excellent at spelling and grammar, but I couldn't be an attorney. We all have different talents.

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Everyone can do something well. And everyone would fail at most other peoples' jobs. I knew enough about myself to know that the military was NOT for me. So I never enlisted. I would make a lousy accountant, housewife, factory worker, landscaper and attorney, to name a few.
But frankly, I make a darn good what I am and I love every second of it.

If I had been told I did not have the gift of pen, would I attempt - thrice - to write a blog? No. If I were self-aware enough to know I made a mess of things every time a camera started rolling, would I pursue a career on TV? No. If my last 3 books were failures and the one before that was roundly panned as just a picture book, would I figure my future lay in authoring books? No.

But everybody is suited for something if they will just get real and prepare for it. It takes a plan, not a dream. And it takes some
general smarts to know the difference.

Starz22 said...

Bette Midler is indeed a class act and a true star...a celebrity who has earned and worked hard for everything she has.

Kate is a puke...I never thought of her has a "star". Her flash in the pan was a fluke.She may have risen fast,but she fell even quicker. She is not a celebrity, and never will be. She is a HAS BEEN!! Stick the fork in her,she is SO done.

The truth has a way of getting out. Kate's truth is out there now. The truth will shine even brighter when the kid's are old enough to enlighten us with even more. Not that I'm looking forward to it. I believe it will be the kids reckoning. It will give them whatever closures they need to get past the hell they had to live with to find a way to deal with their futures. (sadly, I believe the abuse these kids had to live with physically, physiology, and emotionally at the hands of their momster, is more than we would ever want to know).

Sometimes I think, some here give Kate too much attention. Spend too much time on trivial things. This blog has always been after the truth. It doesn't allow BS stories, and it has never been one-sided. I have never cared about what Kate has worn...or eaten...Like others, they are just helping the truth get told.

Kate Gosselin IS a Child and Animal ABUSER.

Starz22 said...

As I was reading through the comments of the 19...count them nineteen firefighters who lost their lives fighting for other people, I could not believe the nasty ass comments. Are people really this stupid and clueless? Desperate for attention? That they really sit on-line and have nothing better to do other than berate these heroic men and women? They make snide and nasty comments hoping someone will give in and give them the attention they so crave?

I'am sick to my stomach...a comment that sticks out...19 dead? that means 19 job openings. WTF??? Kate is so down on my list of things to worry about. I will make a quick comment about Kate ...saying she is a Child and Animal abuser...thats all I have time for. There are so many BIGGER things going on in this world.
I hope the families who lost loved ones,will be ok and heal. And you have the prayers of many others.

Sketchy Gosselin said...

Ex Nurse said... 176
Matt Heckman is a great example of the kind of people that Kate attracts. Referring to the babe and whore that works in Tom Corbett's office--real class act.

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Per page 122 of Pauler Deen's deposition, she acknowledges that she said:
"If you think I've worked this hard to lose everything because of a piece of pussy, you better think again."

From what I read in the deposition, Pauler is a real class act too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

From what I read in the deposition, Pauler is a real class act too.

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Yeah really.

I read a few pages of her book because I was curious about her background and even in her book she's awfully colorful. Southern gentlewoman she is not. She seems to be surrounded by raunchy men and desperate to be one of the boys. It's sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Starzz where were you reading those nasty comments? That's awful!

I was reading this morning they were all part of a "hot spot" crew who were digging a fire line and that one member of the team was not with them and survived. I cannot imagine that man's survivor's guilt.

capecodmama said...

Condolences and prayers to the families of the 19 brave firefighters who lost their lives in the fire in AZ. Such a tragedy.

Dmasy said...

I saw Paula Deen once in a live presentation. She was at Joliet Harrah's casino around the time they opened her restaurant. She cooked some of her favorite dishes and we got to taste. The invited guests got to meet her at a book signing and cocktail party. Michael was with her.

She was warm and charming. She was suffering from a bad cold and still welcomed everyone.

The monologue that accompanied the cooking presentation was raunchy. Very. There were some women in the audience who were visibly disproving of her jokes.

I have eaten at 3 of her casino restaurants. The food was way above average for the buffet style. (There is also a conventional menu style section.) I am wondering how quickly her name and the country decor will be removed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I just saw Kate conveniently tweeted last night that six kids came home for the weekend adding to the two already there. That's so funny she tweeted that at the same exact day MILO tweeted about how the twins don't go over to Jon's. What a coincidence! She knows exactly what she is doing. This is her wink wink nod nod to Milo backing her up. She's so transparent.

You know I liked her a lot better when she owned her parental alienation. Having others do her dirty work for her, Deanna(?), Milo, is just pathetic.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I so agree; if you are going to be a parental alienator, then own it. Playing silly games on twitter with the likes of Milo & Deanna is beyond contempt. Allowing the despicable words of that Goody person to stay on your Twitter page is in poor taste, and really poor judgement. Does she really think her twins cannot access that mess?

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

capecodmama said... 186

Condolences and prayers to the families of the 19 brave firefighters who lost their lives in the fire in AZ. Such a tragedy.

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My God. How horribly tragic.

Prayers to all the victims & their families.

So sad.

capecodmama said...

Babe. PR Whore. Yeah, Matt Heckman is someone I'd want in my corner. Dickhead.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The fact that she is having others do her dirty work for her suggests she knows on some level it's wrong to reveal the real and private, personal feelings of the twins to the public. Otherwise she would just tell us how they really feel herself. Instead she has some source do it in a roundabout way through Milo, then indirectly she confirms it in a not so subtle tweet.

Somewhere In Time said...

Babe. PR Whore. Yeah, Matt Heckman is someone I'd want in my corner. Dickhead.

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Wasn't there something going on with him several years ago? I can't remember what it was. Lawsuit? Some kind of allegations about something in which he got mixed up. The name of familiar, and I'm associating it with something some kind of negative deeds or controversy at the time.

Lalalalala said...

Matt Heckman got involved in a very nasty, dispute with another blogger, Bohemian Moon. She had a very popular blog that was anti-Kate Gosselin. He exposed her real name and her son's name. He posted very private information about her son, most of which wasn't true. Moon sued him and won.

Matt Heckman is a jerk who loves, loves, loves attention.

Ingrid said...

Lalalalala said... 194 Matt Heckman is a jerk who loves, loves, loves attention.
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I was getting that impression too.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Why does Kate continue with the charade. She thinks she needs to convince people she is "wading through work emails" and now that her littles are home it is a house "full of happiness". Sounds like two whoppers. Her insecurity is palpable. She doesn't work. What are work emails anyway. Such a bullshi**er. Oh. I forgot. "Good things are on the horizon". "Life is good!! Yay!!!"

Hello said...

Moon did not sue Heckman. Cease and Desist letters were sent and Heckman complied.

Upstater said...

Matt Heckman has a new post up on his blog.

http://mattheckman.net/

I've been following the Gosselin saga for a while and I have no idea who he is. Why would he be subpoenaed?

Formerly Duped said...

Yeah, the 'work e-mails' is annoying to say the least. Who is she kidding? Unless it is her 'pink slip' from the Stir.

Jane said...

Lest we forget how in love Milo is with Kate, the tweets below were retweeted this morning by one of the non-fans. Milo originally tweeted them when the cruise was still a go.

RT#miloandjack #kateplusmy8 1/16/12 "Just curious.if I were2committ 2cruise what would U expect in terms of how U visualize me?"

RT#MiloandJack 1/23/12 "Confused & not sure about where things stand" #Kateplusmy8

RT#MiloandJack 2/10/12 "So I C U R avoiding the question...LOL need I think the worst?" #Kateplusmy8

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