Michael Levine has been in the PR business since 1983 (his firm is called the "Oscar" of PR and has represented Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Cameron Diaz). This expert has weighed in on how a celebrity should handle a crisis (or f-up, if you will) as big as Paula Deen's. His four tips are interesting, and pretty spot on. Here we go:
1) Respond quickly to problems: Though Deen cancelled her originally-scheduled "Today" interview, opting to record her own videos — which were much maligned for being obviously edited — Levine says she can make up for it during her Wednesday appearance. "I don’t think it was wise [to cancel], but America is basically a forgiving nation, so I think if she goes on the ‘Today’ show and confronts it, this will be a good thing for her."
2) Respond with humility: "We've already started seeing her make her apology," says Levine of the self-recorded videos in which Deen apologized “to everybody for the wrong that I’ve done,” saying she's made mistakes and calling her language "inappropriate and hurtful." But Levine says she will need to continue to appear remorseful when speaking to Lauer. "She's begun the healing process, but it's a process and you have to keep doing it again and again until you get it behind you."
3) Respond with contrition: "If you make clear that this is not who you are today, and you show some degree of sincerity about it, over time you should be fine," Levine opines, though adding changing the public's new perception of her will not happen "in an hour, day or week." Though he does believeAmerica could see Deen back on its airwaves in the course of a year or two if she appears sincerely sorry.
4) Respond with personal responsibility: Levine says one of the biggest goals of her "Today" appearance should be to own up to her actions without making excuses. "She can't belittle and blame others," he says, citing O.J. Simpson as an example of how not to address a crisis. “He responded arrogantly, slowly, and belittled and blamed others and did not do well with the public." Instead, Levine recommends Deen follow Hugh Grant's lead back in 1995, when he appeared on "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" to publicly apologize for having an affair with a prostitute, famously saying, "I did a bad thing." The actor went on to have continued success.
"If you do those four things — if you go fast, humble, personally responsible with contrition, and apology, you're going to basically be OK," says Levine.
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Paula's $13,000,000 (LOL!) house:
http://hookedonhouses.net/2009/12/09/its-paula-deens-house-in-savannah-yall/
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Doh! The house is 13 Mil, not 33 Mil. Thought I read 33 Mil in the complaint against Deen.
Still, wowzer!
I think a big part of the budget went into interior decorating. Custom everything.
Meagler said...
She also said she had other projects on the go, and she isnt being a tease, she just cant disclose just yet... what the cookboobk? oops, spelling mistake..ha ha, think I'll leave that one!
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Ha ha, Meagler. I read once that the truth of the world is in typos. Ever since, I've taken note of what I actually type versus what I meant to type. It can be very funny and sometimes enlightening. Cookboobk. LOL.
Say,where's Auntie Ann?
Thank you for the link to the lawsuit filed against Paula Deen.
The details are quite different from an admission of "maybe" using the N-word once several decades ago.
If even half of the complaints are true, it is no surprise why her sponsors are speeding away.
I am tempted to post the link to the lawsuit on all the "Support Paula Deen" FaceBook posts.
Having a few facts always helps!
I thought it was Brownie the cereal lady who disappeared after Blankinship.
Barb has been coordinating sending Kate's book to be signed to fans for a long time, I remember Kate always passing off people pestering her about it to Barb. Then some time back we stopped seeing tweets about that. Barb probably woke up one morning and realized her job is thankless and quit.
This is just how I remember it, I'm a little rusty on my A Sheeple's History of Kate Gosselin.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Soon time for #LoveIsInTheMix to come out! Pre-order on @amazon Please post your book signing schedule once you know :) excited
So now Brenda is Second In Command for hawking the cookboob?
"I thought it was Brownie the cereal lady who disappeared after Blankinship."
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I think it was Brownie who disappeared immediately after one of her male friends was arrested for child porn. I believe he was seen in photographs on her blog when she ran a mentoring camp for girls.
Sheeple History 101 is fun. Whatever happened to Big Fan, who showed up from time to time with different IDs, but everyone knew who it was because the tweets were so bizarre and it took her 10 tweets to say the same thing. One day she loved Kate. the next day she hated Kate. You never knew what you were going to get from her! She did hate men, though!
Kirkland if you get a chance can you summarize what they said about Kate on that radio show? The podcast is pretty long.
Kate encourages these fans to hawk her on Twitter so she doesn't have to pay someone to do it. Once again, using people. She makes it appear they are friends, but really it's just a game to get something for nothing. I think her twitter buddies are lonely people who are finally empowered by claiming some friendship with a celebrity. Kate is slick enough, as a narcissist, to read people and figure out their weakness to her advantage (i.e. Jon, Ashley, Jodi, Kevin, Beth, ad infinitum). I think she does this with her kids, too, playing them against each other. Such carnage!
How come no one is reporting her gig at The Stir is up? I thought examiner.com followed her twitter and reported all? This termination isn't as dramatic as CC's, but still she blew another job.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Soon time for #LoveIsInTheMix to come out! Pre-order on @amazon Please post your book signing schedule once you know :) excited
When IJWYTK was released, did Kate do any book signings other than the one that Admin attended? I don't recall reading about any other ones.
The sheeple are expecting her to do interviews and book signings for this cookbook. I really think they are going to be sadly disappointed.
Kate isn't even aggressively promoting it, except for sending people to her website. Even Milo has toned it down.
I think the only "appearance" she will be making for this book, is at the Baltimore Book Festival. That is, if that even happens.
Thought you'd get a kick out of this post on BM's site:
Hello Gosselin fans! Yes I'm still here. I was so excited about RWA being shut down, RealityTVKids no longer posting "Khate" and GosselinsWithoutPity falling off a cliff that I felt I needed to take a break for a bit. I'm truly impressed with the years this blog has been in existence. The years that all the trolls laughed and said I would disappear, that I would never be the last one standing. But here I am years later finally having the last laugh. It has certainly been a long time coming.
With new and this site slowing down, I will not longer post until there is news. That doesn't mean that I'm not here. You can always drop me a line or comment on my pages. I miss that the most. This site WILL stay up until all the others finally fold. Right now they are just laying low. Sneaky trolls.
All the best to you BabyMama.
I guess that means she's gone for good? There's never any "news"!
Yeah, she only got one comment on her site regarding the Asian photo. It's pretty much DOA despite her gloating.
Baby Mama may still be standing, but she's standing alone. I think her blog has had less that 100 comments since January of this year. I think GWOP has had more than that.
What good is having a blog that no one comments on?
TLC stinks said... 8
How come no one is reporting her gig at The Stir is up? I thought examiner.com followed her twitter and reported all?
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Give it time. I'm sure Mary Jane at examiner.com is working on a post as we speak. She'll probably entitle it "Kate grants wishes to fans", and write about how Kate is no longer with the Stir but will be writing bogs on her website.
This is just how I remember it, I'm a little rusty on my A Sheeple's History of Kate Gosselin.
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You could be right, lol
I kind of think Twitter has made an impact with BM's site. Now any fans (six) can directly tweet Kate instead of commenting on her site. She may want to think of changing her blog about something else with occasional Gosselin news. This blog talks current topics, so many more are engaged. As far as GWOP, their bread and butter were the recaps of the shows. Funny stuff.
I give her blog posting on her personal web site all of two weeks. With no one to answer to she'll get lazy and not bother.
If she blogs on her web site with no one to answer to, she will UNDOUBTEDLY stick her foot in her mouth. This is her dream job because now she can write all day long about herself, real or imagined. Can't wait.
TLC stinks said... 10
Thought you'd get a kick out of this post on BM's site:
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When was this posted?
Yes, RWA shut down recently due to legal threats, not lack of conversation or irrelevancy.
This site has been putting up 4-figure or near 4-figure comment numbers in each new post, so don't get what BM is getting at.
Obviously, she still has a desire to blog but it must get frustrating to never generate an ongoing conversation.
It's not that 15 min is gone because Kate doesn't headline posts as she did previously (there's so much more to discuss and learn!), in fact it's stronger than ever, even with some posters coming and some going. We've had some great contributors.
If BM wants to call that a win, have at it.
The one thing that I really like about this blog is that Admin hasn't pitted "us" against "them".
I wouldn't boast if BM shut down. It's just neither here nor there to me.
But, I really wish she's stop trying to create drama where there truly is none.
I was going to say the same thing, twitter is a big problem for BM. Without twitter her web site might be quite buzzing. She can't offer with twitter can--direct interaction with Kate.
See there are a few haters who hang out on twitter but most of them gravitate more to blogs. Most of the gators don't have the same desire to tweet Kate directly, and usually want more than 120 characters to work with. Twitter is a cesspool the sheeple seem happy to play in that many gators just never got into. Hence the blogging continues for us, but dies for BM.
And yes seeing Kate blog without a filter might be very interesting! Let's go!
On that podcast, they talk about the G kids at around 19:50. They didn't really say much. They were just wondering how kids are affected long term, and made a joke that there are so many Gosselins, they could tackle someone who made fun of them - or something like that.
I think the only "appearance" she will be making for this book, is at the Baltimore Book Festival. That is, if that even happens.
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I'll actually be surprised if Kate doesn't do a handful of talk show appearances. Then again, I was sure she'd meet the minimum quota to pull the trigger on the cruise, so...
If she doesn't score Today Show and The View, which were unabashedly promoting her, that will really say something.
We'll see!
After reading Kate's latest blog, as someone earlier said, it is obviously an open letter to herself. What was very telling was her comment about tears meaning it could possibly be the result of a lifetime of repeated disappointments. Here we go again. Poor me, me, me. Wow. Is that how she really feels about her life? What a horrible way to live. Having all those people disappoint her. Can anyone here say they have had that same experience in their lives? I'm just curious if I'm jumping to conclusions thinking it is only Kate....
I guess I also don't understand the obsession with making sure blogs are brought down.
Why? What are we doing that bothers her so darn much that every other celebrity site isn't doing? Every celeb has to deal with a little snark, if you're someone like Goopy often a lot of snark, at the end of the day only that celeb can bring themselves down, not some little blog.
I don't care if BM wants to run her site until 2050, who cares? It's not my concern or PLACE to try to get people I don't agree with to stop blogging. I wouldn't want someone to do that to me, so why would I tell someone else they can't blog? How about she just not worry about other sites, try that for a change.
I give her blog posting on her personal web site all of two weeks. With no one to answer to she'll get lazy and not bother.
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She's not going to blog on her website. She couldn't even bother updating the news and events or the "coming soon" section. If nobody is paying her to blog, why would she even bother?
"With new and this site slowing down, I will not longer post until there is news. That doesn't mean that I'm not here. You can always drop me a line or comment on my pages. I miss that the most. This site WILL stay up until all the others finally fold. Right now they are just laying low. Sneaky trolls."
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Who is laying (sic) low? This blog?
GWOP had three comments on the Asian fiasco. This includes one copy and paste of her "explanation" from her blog.
Regarding Baby Mama - I love how at the bottom of her blog that she has a statement "Do Not Copy Without Permision" but yet all she does is copy other online articles. The full article. I am surprised that someone hasn't called her out on it.
Comments are one thing but she is still getting over 1500 visits a day. She is probably making ad money. I see she has adsense.
if you're someone like Goopy often a lot of snark, at the end of the day only that celeb can bring themselves down, not some little blog.
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Right. If that was true, Marlboro Woman would have brought down Pioneer Woman by now.
MW has an opinion site and I think she's entitled to it. Agree or disagree, or better yet, if your opinion differs from MW, gravitate to like-minded fans of Ree.
Simple, simple.
Everybody has room to groove out there on the interwebs.
What a horrible way to live. Having all those people disappoint her. Can anyone here say they have had that same experience in their lives? I'm just curious if I'm jumping to conclusions thinking it is only Kate....
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Well, you're not alone. Here's my take. I read this particular blog, and what struck me is that I couldn't relate to all the negative descriptions of life. I don't see a lot of jealousy in my life, or disappointment, the ugliness of the world (the world has its tragedies and atrocities to be sure, but overall I view the world as a beautiful place not an ugly place). I don't surround myself with ignorance or with people who try to paint me as something I'm not. Anger is really not an issue for me and certainly if the odd bit of anger comes up it doesn't get in the way of love, and I don't hang out with a lot of people who are difficult to love in the first place, I don't know people like this I would choose to be around. Cry often? No thanks. I cry when someone dies or if Brad Pitt loses his brother and wife in Legends of the Fall, that's about it.
Life certainly has its hardships and ups and downs but I try to save my tears for the pillow and focus on what's in my control. And, I don't get the impression from most of you that you view life this negatively, nor my family and friends. It was a head scratcher and in a way....made me feel sorry for her. It struck me as a VERY negative outlook on life. One I just never really participated in. And it made me feel bad that this is the reality for someone. How awful.
Milo's again acting like she knows everything about Kate leaving the Stir.
Sandie @SandieBellz 5h
@MiloandJack @BarbGilmer @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 If i recall Kate subtly let everyone know her last blog entry was coming 2 weeks ago.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 57m
@SandieBellz Correct. It was N a tweet abt Cara saying she would do last blog abt wanting ice cream! It was contractual end2blog that's all!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 55m
@SandieBellz Whoever released so-called "racist pic" no doubt timed it 2make it look like it had something 2do w/end to her blog at Stir! :(
So according to her, the release of the picture was "timed" so it would make her look like she was fired because of it? Kate didn't previously say when her last bog would be. How would the person who released the picture know when Kate would be leaving the Stir?
Unless, it was Kate herself.
I was reading an exchange on Kate's Twitter between the fans and the non-fans. They do love a good argument. My question is -- are the sheep (a few in particular) really as dumb as they appear, or is it an act to get the "haters" all riled up? I just can't imagine that their stupidity isn't staged.
Tucker, agree. I think there is a place for PW and a place for MW. Every ying should have a yang. It SHOULDN'T be just PW all by herself getting to set the agenda. Detractors are a good thing.
I like PW usually. I totally get the snark about her, too, and I've even looked at Marlboro Woman's site and I think it's a good thing. She offers the truth if you are interested or just snark if you want to laugh. I LAUGHED at it. And got a link to some other site with Barbie dolls making fun of PW that was funny too.
PW doesn't have to concern herself with them, what are they hurting? It is not a bad thing if PW says here is a recipe, for MW to put it out there she has pretty good proof she copied it from a church cookbook. This is how life works. Tit, tat, ping pong. MW keeps PW sharp.
My pastor growing up was phenomenal. He said something once that has stuck with me forever. When we hired him, he was overqualified for us and most people loved him and there was no question we wanted him. The vote was ALMOST unanimous for him. One person voted no. I think a lot of people were thinking how could you vote no?? But 10 years later, when our pastor left, he said I don't know who you are but thank you to that one vote of no. That vote kept me humble and grounded all these years. That vote meant so much to me.
I get what he is saying. Everyone needs to be checked. Even a small one. It's not a bad thing. Listen to it, be humble, and then do the best you can in light of it.
You can talk about contracts all day long but at the end of the day if she were good, they would have renewed it!
This is not a job to build a building and when it's built you move on. It's a writing job. If you are GOOD, you will be kept on.
Mio cannot spin the simple fact that they could have extended Kate's time there if they WANTED TO.
"And yes seeing Kate blog without a filter might be very interesting! Let's go!"
Unfortunately her web counter shows about 10 views for every one. Does she get paid for page views even if the counter is bogus?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 20
I guess I also don't understand the obsession with making sure blogs are brought down.
Why? What are we doing that bothers her so darn much
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It bothers her because she's not in control and she's a control freak that's want thing her way.
She's not in control of what you write or what RWA wrote or Robert writes.
It's a control issues I believe.
It will be interesting to see the media and public reaction to the latest Alec Baldwin mess. I suspect that since he is pereceived as a hip, liberal New Yorker who starred on a wildly popular TV show,any outrage over his anti-gay slurs will blow over in a couple of days. Capital One won't fire him, he'll still get TV and movie deals, the birth of his baby will be covered like the Second Coming. I'm certainly not defending Paula Deen, but just saying hypocrisy and double-standards live. Time will tell if I am right or wrong on this one.
Over And Out said... 28
I was reading an exchange on Kate's Twitter between the fans and the non-fans. They do love a good argument. My question is -- are the sheep (a few in particular) really as dumb as they appear, or is it an act to get the "haters" all riled up? I just can't imagine that their stupidity isn't staged.
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I think it's both. They bait the non-fans, then if a non-fan responds, they immediately tell the non-fan not to tweet them any more. I think they hope that if they bait enough, they can get the non-fan suspended.
One of them opened a YouTube channel, and is posting short clips that show Jon in a bad light, and Kate in a good light. One she posted was from the show where Jon took the kids fishing by their house. She posted a clip where Jon describes a "game" played with barbed wire and rope, and he says he hopes they don't poke each other's eyes out.
What she doesn't seem to comprehend is when Jon said, that he was joking and giving a funny take on what fishing involves.
This is the same one that accused Jon of stealing Kate's dress from her closet during the dress up episode. She finally backed down when someone pointed out that there were Target bags shown when they were dressing up, and most likely TLC purchased all the dress up clothes for the episode.
It really is amusing to see the stuff they come up with and the ridiculous logic they use to try to prove their points.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56s
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Agree..& that what has been shown is just a small sample..so much love/affection/care she gives we aren't privy2!
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Milo just loves to make it sound like she's privy to every aspect of Kate's life.
I don't expect the same outrage about Alec Baldwin. His history is basically he blows up on people like his ex or other celebs or an airplane. People he targets are able to strike back on equal footing. Basically he is a man walking around with an anger management problem.
What he hasn't been allowed to do, as far as I can tell, is then use his inappropriate behavior to create a toxic work environment for those submissive to them. That's why Paula Deen is being raked over the coals, not just because of her behavior but her behavior towards those she had power over, to those who were supposed to submit to her. To me that's where the outrage comes in. It's like the key to bullying, the imbalance of power.
Celebs will always behave badly. But when they're able to use that to prey upon others lower than them is when it really blows up in the manner it justifiably has with Paula. Americans have a strong sense that you should not prey upon the "weak" and when you cross that, they get angry. I do not think it's hypocritical.
Same reason there was outrage over Sandusky and not say over the numerous other bad things that happen in college sports. Sandusky wasn't just another slimy coach....rather he was preying on the least of these.
I don't think Kate will be interested in maintaining her blog site. She will probably hire some college kid to keep it up to date and she'll just post whenever. It's very important that she has a blog and losing the The Stir spot must have been a blow. She needs the exposure to sell her cookbook. Frankly, I think that was the only reason she joined them. I thought it was in poor taste to hawk her cookbook in her very first post.
ITA her last blog was about herself. Maybe one of her sisters' daughters turned 18 and she was inspired by that to write the blog about a long time family "friend", but then again, it could be entirely made up.
And BTW, I bet that picture "supplied" by Kate was a copyrighted photo she did not give credit to just like the tow truck picture. For someone who bitches about copyright material, she sure does her fair share of stealing other people's work.
Over And Out said... 28
I was reading an exchange on Kate's Twitter between the fans and the non-fans. They do love a good argument. My question is -- are the sheep (a few in particular) really as dumb as they appear, or is it an act to get the "haters" all riled up? I just can't imagine that their stupidity isn't staged.
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IMO a couple of them a dumb as dirt.
Kate is slick enough, as a narcissist, to read people and figure out their weakness to her advantage
Bingo. A very uncanny ability that she has that way.
Was watching the news at noon to see when the heck this rain was going to get out of here (it also showed some flooding in PA so I hope the PA people out there are fine), and there was a segment about more of Paula Deen's employees comtemplating suing her for discrimination. Man, it sucks to be her right now.
"I just can't imagine that their stupidity isn't staged."
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@TheHankBaskett @KendraWilkinson Kate Gosselin did this with her family !....lot's of fun ! :)
Ah, I don't think this is staged.
I wish Robert would admit or deny he posted the Kate picture, because if he did not, then by golly, Kate posted it herself. I have not bought into that conspiracy theory yet but why would Robert post a picture when he most likely had Jon's smiling mug too? Seems to collaborate that she and Jon were just goofing around.
Paula's cookbooks are apparently flying off the shelves because people think she may be done. I fully expect there to be some controversy with Kate just around the time her cookbook makes its appearance. The difference is that Deen actually can cook, LOL. Kate is watching all of this and is taking notes.
Just listened to Jason and Molly Mesnicks podcast. Summary: when Jason was on the Bachelor, his ” character” was that of single dad, and his son Ty who was three at the time was with him at the mansion. Butte because of Jason a concerns and his ex wifes concerns, his son was shown minimally. He was at Jason and Molly a wedding, but because of Tys mothers concerns, he was not filmed at the wedding at all. Now Jason and Molly would not put their kids on TV, unless they can make a lot of money doing it.
discussing best known reality TV moms, Ms Kreider was named along with Kris jenner, real housewives, the girl from Teen Moms who is now making adult films. They had no idea what Ms Kreider is up to and want her to Facebook them so they can ask how the kids are doing. Jason and Molly discussed potential negative impact of being on reality TV when you are older, in middle school, and were wondering about Ms Kreider a older girls, but they didn't know any names. they talked about list of” worst reality TV parenting moments” that is on college humor dot com, but they were things from toddlers tiaras, dance moms, etc. mad Kreider is not typical enough to make the list, she is so 2010
they did give example of how reality TV is not reality. Jason only allowed Ty to be introduced to two final women on his season Bachelor, and he insisted first meeting be off camera. When it came time to film introduction, they told him to play pretend, but he was not interested much, do Molly said that's why viewers thought Ty hated her. Also Ty remembers nothing of filming the show, not trip to Thailand, not meeting Molly first time, nothing.
Interesting podcast.
boo said... 35
It will be interesting to see the media and public reaction to the latest Alec Baldwin mess. I suspect that since he is pereceived as a hip, liberal New Yorker who starred on a wildly popular TV show,any outrage over his anti-gay slurs will blow over in a couple of days. Capital One won't fire him, he'll still get TV and movie deals, the birth of his baby will be covered like the Second Coming. I'm certainly not defending Paula Deen, but just saying hypocrisy and double-standards live. Time will tell if I am right or wrong on this one.
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Boo - I agree that standards are rarely applied evenly, especially when it comes to celebs. I know Alec Baldwin loses his temper and goes bananas on a regular basis. I figure there is some underlying cause - whether it's some sort of substance abuse issue, or manic-depressive issue, or other pathology - but there's something wrong that causes him to lose it. I wish he'd get help for whatever the root cause is. When he's on an even keel, it seems he can be charming, funny, and a good actor.
His anti-gay rant should cost him and I hope it does cost him a sponsor, or otherwise negatively impact him, because I think until he sees a real impact on his life, he won't accept that he has a problem that must be dealt with.
But as Admin said, he doesn't oversee a large corporate entity with numerous employees under his control. He may have personal assistants, handlers, agents, etc. But he doesn't run a large company, where he pays women at a lower rate than male counterparts doing the same job; or where he treats black employees as lesser than white employees. He does not have the ability to fire someone from their job because they are openly gay.
The person he hurts the most when he loses his mind and goes ranting and raving, is himself. And each time it happens, he adds another ding to his reputation. If he doesn't get this under control, it will eventually cost him jobs; people in the industry won't return his calls; and he won't be considered the "successful Baldwin brother" anymore.
TLC stinks said... 44
I wish Robert would admit or deny he posted the Kate picture, because if he did not, then by golly, Kate posted it herself. I have not bought into that conspiracy theory yet but why would Robert post a picture when he most likely had Jon's smiling mug too? Seems to collaborate that she and Jon were just goofing around.
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I suspect RH released the photo, but I also believe J+K were just goofing around. I don't think Kate was making fun of Asian features/people without context, or just for the heck of it. I think she did slant eyes and both she and evidently Jon thought it was funny.
It was private, I get it, but it's out there and that gesture is also used in a derogatory and racist fashion, so for that, Kate should have checked herself. She wanted the fame, and this is the scrutiny that comes with it.
She should have apologized for any offense, given the context of the photo, including Jon's photo and moved on.
Out of those 4 things, she did 3. Guess which one she left out?
Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said... 23
After reading Kate's latest blog, as someone earlier said, it is obviously an open letter to herself. What was very telling was her comment about tears meaning it could possibly be the result of a lifetime of repeated disappointments. Here we go again. Poor me, me, me. Wow. Is that how she really feels about her life? What a horrible way to live. Having all those people disappoint her. Can anyone here say they have had that same experience in their lives? I'm just curious if I'm jumping to conclusions thinking it is only Kate....
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Kate takes it to an extreme, but I have known a few people in my life who have a similar outlook. They seem to focus on the negative instead of the positive. Every single person faces ups and downs in life.
In part because of the way I was raised, and probably in part from my own personality type - I prefer to focus on the positive. My baseline thinking is that I am a very fortunate individual. I was born to two loving parents, my siblings and I all get along, I was able to afford a college education and have had a long career, make a decent income, have a roof over my head, always been able to put food on the table, my child is healthy and doing well in school, I am physically able to do most things, live in a beautiful and safe part of the world, etc., etc. When I count my blessings, I can go on and on.
It is indeed sad that Kate seems only to see the negative, the perceived wrongs against her, the things she wanted as a child but didn't get, the imagined slights, the sense that the world and the people in it are hateful and spiteful. She is living proof that money does not buy happiness.
So Kate is leaving The Stir? I wonder if it was her choice or theirs! As for her being a 'hip big sister' to this mystery 18 year old....no, Kate, you may be immature, uninformed and silly but you're too old to be counted as a friend or sister to an eighteen year old.
I also wanted to add that this "leaked" slant eye Asian photo could have been a teachable moment for Kate's kids. It could have opened up the floor to unintentionally hurting others, to talks about whether or not her kids have had this silent epithet shown to them and how they felt about it, and what they'd do about it.
There are so many ways Kate could have seized this and said, thank you (RH), this never meant to harm anyone, but it's been a springboard for wonderful conversations with my children and we've learned a lot.
We're all more sensitive now.
Why is it so important to Kate to be known as a "hip, big sister"?
She's always promoting that concept with her twins. That they don't see her as the mom, but a cool companion.
And yet, she's always promoting that the little kids see her as the "bestest mom, ever!"
And that, when out in public, she is able to relieve tense situations with her light-hearted humor.
Does it say a lot about her perception of her parents' personalities? Or her awareness of her own negative, controlling, dour personality?
Not to harp on the Baldwin matter, but why get up in arms about Kate "goofing around" when the result is what many regard as racially insensitive behavior, but essentially give Baldwin a pass because when he used offensive gay references he was very angry and he's known for having a bad temper? If anything, his offense was worse because it was public and clearly hateful -- not much different than Mel Gibson's anti-semitic drunken tirade. OK I'll move on now. :)
I think Alec is mostly making himself miserable whereas Paula seemed to be mostly making the least of these's lives miserable. If however Alec has ever done the same to someone the same standards should apply. I just can't find examples of it. I see he was distruptive on a flight and makes a fool of himself on twitter and on calls to other people but I don't see a story of someone coming forward saying I was under Alec's control and he made my life hell. If I were on that flight I would be annoyed but it would be insulting to try to compare my annoyance with the suffering Paula Deen put her employees through.
Millicent, I agree with what you say. And I don't believe Kate was this unhappy or disappointed in people before her fame quest. Be careful for what you wish for comes to mind regarding Kate. I remember her in the early days of the show. She had a true happiness about her even though she could be a control freak. I think she did love Jon back then. The affectionate interaction between them seemed genuine. But when the fame and money started rolling in, that was her undoing. It became obvious to the viewer she wasn't thrilled with him anymore. On those couch interviews,her body language was saying "I don't want my body to touch yours on this couch. You turn me off and I have outgrown you, you weak little man. I am a star now and am loving every minute of it". She could never have predicted that 99% of her audience would go on to hate her as she so aptly put it to Tony. She has shown time and time again she is still a talented nobody but some paid ass kisser out there told her in her heyday she could be a star and she believed it (Barbara Walters you old fool) and she hasn't been able to let that fantasy go.
Off topic, how come we don't hear about new purchases like meat slicers and bread machines anymore? She was on a roll there for a while giving us some great tips about saving money. We don't get any 400 cookies baked updates or anything anymore. And all the running designed to motivate us all. What happened to those days. LOL. Everything just came to a dead halt.
Well I don't really see anyone up in arms about Kate's photo. I saw some biracial families and Asians said they were very hurt about it and I wish she would apologize. Alec apologized for his flight and to his daughter to name a few.
I guess I don't follow him that closely or care to get worked up. I didn't even know about this until now. You could spend your life getting worked up about the hate in this world. To the general public Kate's latest thing read more like Kate made slanted eyes and no one cares. That's how I see Alec. Alec is at it again and I don't care. I'm sure those that follow Alec more closely care, I see lots of comments. I guess I just don't see the hypocrisy. I think it has more to do with your level of interest in the celeb versus giving someone a pass.
I don't give Alec Baldwin a pass. His Twitter rant was (once again) offensive and he's a raging maniac at times. Can't stand him personally, but he's a brilliant comedic actor. To draw a parallel to Kate's slant eyes, many years ago Baldwin called his then young daughter a "thoughtless little pig" and he got into deep sh*t for it, but didn't lose his acting job with NBC, which came down to dollars. The show was and continued to be a HUGE success, and Baldwin was really the anchor actor/draw.
Baldwin did a self effacing mea culpa tour (only to step in it again and again), and apologized and said he was going to leave 30 Rock, but never did in the end.
What's happening with Deen at the moment is unheard of, in my memory. I thought I was shocked that Deen's shows were pulled within hours of her contract being released with FN. This week, I've been gobsmacked at the fallout.
Tucker's Mom -- Gobsmacked is a great word. I have never witnessed such a career implosion. I had to get more info because it seemed there had to be more story than the headline that was being repeated.
If you haven't followed the link published last night, please go and read the lawsuit.
You will be appalled.
I heard that Paula Deen's great-grandfather committed suicide when the South lost the Civil War. She said he could not face the change in his fortunes after loosing the "help" he had on his plantation.
She is certainly facing her own demons and decline right now. I hope she has loving people watching out for her welfare.
Ok, 2 things, has anyone notice Kate has been very quiet, lately? and the media has not written anything on her loss of the blog at Cafemom? They have been writing on all kinds of mediocre nonsense crap, Kate tweets about, but nothing so far, about the blog ending? Just lurking
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry I would not say I'm a "close" friend...we live far apart. But I am her friend & she claims me...LOL. I always have "her back"!
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry Yes she is! Nice 2have U here...U can learn alot fr Kate. She's a good role model! :)
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry Unfortunately there R a lot of hateful, bitter & jealous people out there...she tries 2ignore it...U should too. :)
Excusing, we are in agreement. If he did anything as bad as Paula the same.....standards.....should apply!
I am not an Alec Baldwin fan or follow him enough to know. The man does not interest me whatsoever. I only know what I've heard in passing.
Paula's fall is unprecedented, we could all sit here and list 200 other celebs who behaved badly who were not treated like Paula was. You can say it's double standards or maybe just America is moving closer to no tolerance, who knows.
I don't give Alec Baldwin a pass either and I do think his twitter rant was wrong.
However, Alec has never presented himself in a false light. like Paula Deen has. The companies have seen how he has acted in the past, and he didn't go to any great lengths to cover it up. In other words, they knew what they were getting into when they hired him.
Paula Deen, on the other hand, portrayed a sweet, Southern lady, and IMO that helped build her empire. Her sponsors were fooled by this and most likely that is why they have reacted so harshly to what has happened.
IMO that is where the diffence lies
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said I don't care about Alec's victims. I think it's awful for anyone to be spoken to that way. In particular I really felt for his daughter. However I did not lose sleep over it as family law court had a very good handle on that situation and he apologized. There was nothing more to say or do about it.
I don't however follow him closely. That is not a sin.
Em makes a general tweet to no one in particular:
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 3h
Keeping up with your hair is so much work! ����
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And along comes Milo to drag up the subject of Kate:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@EmCr68 HaHa...so just imagine...Kate keeps up w/her full head of hair...& 5 more girls! #TheBoysAndShokaAreEasy :)
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Is Milo like this all the time, injecting Kate into everything?
Kid: Hey Mom, what's for dinner?
Milo: Kate's spaghetti, a Kate salad with Kate's dressing and homemade garlic Kate bread
LOM: What's up for this weekend?
Milo: We're going to sleep in and then lazily lounge around our pool while hashtag texting each other to create memories
Kid: (whispers) But, Dad, we don't have a pool.
LOM: Shhhh. Don't let her hear you. She'll make you drop and do 20.
I honestly do not think that Paula Dean has lost all of these contracts over the word usage revealed in the deposition, but it is more likely that the deposition brought the impending court case to the attention of these companies' legal departments, which makes her a huge ticking time bomb for them. Paula & Bubba would have been smart to settle out of court as it is turning out.
Alec Baldwin is a public figure with a bad temper; his apologies are sincere and thus accepted. Yesterday he flew off the handle when some tweety accused his pregnant wife of tweeting during James Gandolfini's funeral service. According to Baldwin the wife felt ill in the church, they left early and she was tweeting in the car. His response was hugely inappropriate, but she was also not so smart - Twitter is such a weird place.
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry I would not say I'm a "close" friend...we live far apart. But I am her friend & she claims me...LOL. I always have "her back"!
She's not a "close" friend because she lives "far" away? I like how Milo put the distance spin on the word "close." As if living closer, they would BE closer, dearer friends. Then she and Kate would be getting together for coffee regularly and catching up on all the news. Milo's gotta love that other more lowly fans believe her to be Kate's close friend.
Tweet-le--Milo doesn't follow Emily, so how did she even see Emily's tweet. Does she go around checking out her competition for Kate's affection?
Robert has made "additions" at www.gosselinbook.com
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Kate is a twit said... 192
Hey Pink-I found this old comment by you when Kate's bog was first announced. You called it!!
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 95
Too bad for "The Stir".
I can't wait to see how they kick toxic, lazy & demanding Kate off their team.
I give it 6 months, tops...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 194
I was just gonna ask who won the pool. Why congrats Pink. Your prize is a rubber chicken and some organic fluffernutter.
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Oh how delightful!
I wonder if Kate has a recipe in her crookbook for rubber chicken? And at what point in the cooking process should I throw in the entire jar of organic fluffernutter?
Cluck, cluck, becaw!
Kate is a twit said... 68
Tweet-le--Milo doesn't follow Emily, so how did she even see Emily's tweet. Does she go around checking out her competition for Kate's affection?
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You're right! Good grief. I guess she searches the tweeties tweets to make sure there are no little chats going on that she's missing. That's soooo Gladys Kravitz--like peeking in peoples' windows.
Maybe she's worried Kate and Em are planning a get-together and it's bugging her.
Tweet-le--Milo probably checks out anyone who she thinks might have some "inside" info, and may accidentally let it slip.
I remember when Deanna went private last year. Milo kept tweeting anyone who was following Deanna to vouch for her so that Deanna would allow Milo to follow her.
Then when Deanna went public again, due to being on CWS, Milo questioned her about it and wondered if it was a good idea. Guess she didn't want Deanna spillin' any secrets publicly so that Milo could claim she "knows" stuff due to her "close" friendship with Kate.
One of Kate's diehard fans was bashing a non-fan, and she included David Perel in her tweets. She probably hoped DP would do a story about the non-fans on Kate's twitter. She also include BV in some of those tweets.
Look like David got tired of them filling up his timeline, because he tweeted:
David Perel @IMPerel 17m
@Truth_Teller201 @SchmeckyGirl2 @Kateplusmy8 Everyone needs to stop fighting about #kategosselin and focus on what is important: The NBA.
Anonymous said... 69
Robert has made "additions" at www.gosselinbook.com
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Geeze. That page is filled to the brim with negative press.
That is Kate's sobering legacy.
For what it's worth, this is a recent comment on Kate's last bog at The Stir:
Nonmember comment from MomBlogger 1 hour ago
"Take it from those in the know....The Stir does NOT contract for 23 weekly blogs. Her contract was for far longer, but was terminated early. She was supposed to be here all year, which is why her first blog was about this being the "Year of the Teenager". Her daughters don't become teenagers until October. If she knew back in January that she would be gone by the end of June, she wouldn't have talked about this being the year of the teenager, and promised "more to come". She was cut loose early for very good reasons and she knew it was coming a few weeks ago. Remember that one week when her blog was mysteriously not posted until Friday, with zero explanation? That's when the you-know-what was hitting the fan. That was the beginning and then the racist photo debacle was the last straw."
I agree Kate should have apologized. She doesn't get it that a caucasion slanting their eyes is offensive, but yes, it was private and Jon joined in too.
I bet that fan was msgoody. She is on a vendetta. She tweets BV all the time.
Kate is a twit said: Tweet-le-Milo doesn't follow Emily...
Milo follows Kates TL and answers tweets meant for Kate. She does this all day. When new followers tweet Kate, Milo actually welcomes them. There are few tweets directed to Milo. Tweets to Milo from the die hards are not what they once were.
BarbGilmer
@Truth_Teller201:@BarbGilmer @SiobhanR111 @Kateplusmy8 I wonder why it's her last post?
Milo answered this tweet and her name was not on the tweet. Seems some are not impressed.
BarbGilmer
@MiloandJack @Truth_Teller201 @SiobhanR111 @Kateplusmy8 Oh ok, thanks for letting us know milo.
Kate is a twit, I'm sure Milo was disappointed when Deanna went public. Milo could no longer be a special person in the private in-crowd. Remember when she'd butt in when Kate tweeted Jason? Milo will follow Kate into total obscurity.
As for the fan tweeting David Perel and Bullyville, there are 3 of them who have been egging the non-fans on this past week. What phonies they are. They don't want peace between fans and non-fans. They really want BV to get involved again.
I'm glad David Perel didn't fall for it.
Something caught my eye at Gosselinbook.com-
Kate Gosselin Cruise Promo Lies: "Wow! Getting gr8 response... The ship is filling up!... Cabins are selling out!!! etc... etc...
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My God, I have forgotten how deceptive the entire cruise was.
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry I would not say I'm a "close" friend...we live far apart. But I am her friend & she claims me...LOL. I always have "her back"!
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She is a sick, strange little woman. If I were Kate, I'd really worry about that one. What a crazy busybody. She's never met Kate, but loves to skirt that issue and imply that the two of them are like peas in a pod.
Milo doesn't only have her back. She wants her front, too.
The publisher of Paula Deen's book, currently #1 on Amazon, has cencelled the book:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57591604/paula-deens-upcoming-book-nixed-by-publisher/
One of the Teen Moms knows how to apologize and make repairs. ROL has the story.
Kate could learn something from her.
TLC stinks said... 76
I agree Kate should have apologized. She doesn't get it that a caucasion slanting their eyes is offensive, but yes, it was private and Jon joined in too.
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I really wish that Kate would practice what she demands of others.
Apparently Perel's tweet to stop the fighting went in one hoof and out the other. They are still including him in their tweets. Wouldn't you like to throw a few of the haters and sheep in a room together and see what happens? ;)
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 13m
@Truth_Teller201 @IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 SG tweets folks are obsessed with her. Don't make me laugh. What is her obsession with Kate?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 20m
@Truth_Teller201 @IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 Have you noticed how Schmeck always says Kate ignoring kids by tweeting? Well, look at the pot. LOL
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 26m
@IMPerel @Kateplusmy8 Not fighting just proving she is a lying, harassing hypocrite! It's time they leave Kate's timeline!
I don't know about any of you, but in my opinion, Milo has become more annoying than Kate ever was.
Just catching up for the day and have a couple of comments.
I doubt that poster at The Stir who said Kate was contracted for a whole year but was let go early. Would Kate have made that tweet to the Stir, thanking them?
Also, these fans going full force with the non-fans (and including Perel in their tweets--LOL)certainly want to stir up something--be it trying to include BV again or whatever. Is it because NO lawsuit against the non-fans has seen the light of day yet and they are stunned? I mean, I just don't get it. Wasn't it suggested to them by BV to just lay low?
I read the deposition against Paula. As I've said before, as much as her racist attitudes disgust me, there is so much more; anti
Semitism, sexual harassment, a VERY toxic workplace.
The media has focused on the n word as if they are limited to 140 characters. (They're not).
Paula is no innocent. Brother Bubba is a pig. But he works for Paula Deen Enterprises.
Where does the buck stop, Paula?
I wonder why Kate would give up The Stir- it was some income, pretty simple, and a bit of exposure? Has her letter sealed with a kiss finally been delivered ?
I ventured over to BM, first time in over a year.
It is funny that she thinks there are only a few people who post here, just looks like lots, because we change our names. Funny, I never thought to change my name, happy posting with my one!
MiloandJack
@Keomiberry I would not say I'm a "close" friend...we live far apart. But I am her friend & she claims me...LOL. I always have "her back"!
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She is a sick, strange little woman. If I were Kate, I'd really worry about that one. What a crazy busybody. She's never met Kate, but loves to skirt that issue and imply that the two of them are like peas in a pod.
Milo doesn't only have her back. She wants her front, too.
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What does she mean that she "claims" her? Claims her to be certifiable? Claims her to be an obsessed fan? Claims her as her own? Heaven forbid...
Kate could very well have thanked the Stir for damage control purposes. Who would believe she was fired if she sent a nice farewell tweet?
Jane said... 82
The publisher of Paula Deen's book, currently #1 on Amazon, has cencelled the book:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57591604/paula-deens-upcoming-book-nixed-by-publisher/
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dh told me this earlier. Can't believe this!
This is getting hard to watch. What's next?
These offenses do not amount to destroying everything she's got. My gosh, I hope Paula's friends and family are keeping very close to her.
For the first time I'm getting the piling on feeling. The punishment should fit the crime. She need not be *destroyed*. And yet now no one wants to be the one company who kept her on. Arguably they don't have a choice. Another drawback of fame, you could be buried if people want to. There is no right to a fair trial in the court of public opinion.
fidosmommy said... 91
Kate could very well have thanked the Stir for damage control purposes. Who would believe she was fired if she sent a nice farewell tweet?
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I agree -- Kate's not dumb. She knows that she needs to publicly put on a good front and continue to pretend that she's marketable. Unless she has something better that's about to launch that would take up her time, there's no way she'd leave The Stir. As Admin mentioned, it gave her a voice and without it, except for Twitter which she's pretty much abandoned, the news about Kate is left to ROL.
I've often felt that Kate was teflon-coated and we've talked about that here. How, no matter what's thrown at her, she rises like the proverbial phoenix. But I'm almost convinced that she's finally heading down the drain.
I don't follow Paula, and I've never been a fan. There was always something about her that I just didn't like, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then the whole thing came out with the diabetes cover-up and I thought...you know, there's something shady about this person and I think that there's more to it than this. Sneaky came to my mind.
Then, lo and behold, all of this breaks loose.
For someone who asked about our weather and flooding...was it CapeCod? Yes, we've had tornado and flood watches and storms every day. Luckily, our county has been spared the flooding, but there are other neighboring counties who really got hit, with water rescues all over. Keeping our fingers crossed.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93
For the first time I'm getting the piling on feeling. The punishment should fit the crime. She need not be *destroyed*.
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As heinous as her words and actions might be, I kind of agree with you. I understand sponsors wanting to cut her loose but then, let her be. Radar is reporting that Paula is now countersuing the woman who brought charges against her:
http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/29/paula-deen-lawsuit-racial-harassment-sanctions-bubba-n-word-lisa-jackson/
For the first time I'm getting the piling on feeling. The punishment should fit the crime. She need not be *destroyed*.
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Yes, it's dumping. Another one today -- JC Penney. I just can't imagine, though, that all of this is the result of a racial slur she uttered 30 some years ago. There's much more to it than that, and I would hope that these companies have gone over everything with a fine tooth comb to make sure that they don't find themselves accused of making a hasty decision without having examined the pros and cons of keeping her on.
Kate could very well have thanked the Stir for damage control purposes. Who would believe she was fired if she sent a nice farewell tweet?
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Nobody has sleuthed this out yet to find out exactly what happened? I would think that one of the tabs would have picked this up and did some digging to find out if she was pink-slipped or left on her own. It was money coming in, and Kate loves money. I have no idea how much she was paid (but I'm sure Milo knows) for a weekly blog that must have taken her all but an hour at most to slap together. Why would she give that up, especially when you consider that her book just isn't going to be a best seller and she can't count on that income to see her through the kids' teen years?
To those wondering about book sales, there were 165 pre-orders at the end of May. So far in June there have been 58 pre-orders (53 in the US, 4 in the UK, and 1 in Canada). That makes 228 total pre-orders after more than 3 months. Of course, there are also orders on Barnes&Noble, but I feel confident in saying there are no more than 400-450 total pre-orders. We knew this cookbook was going to bomb, but I don't think any of us expected it to be this bad. Kate's fans are expecting a book-signing tour. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them. Where would the money come from for travel, hotels, security, etc? I doubt that there will be more than 1000 cookbooks sold so the budget for promoting it is going to be very, very small.
The fans are baiting the non-fans and trying to pick fights because they are frustrated at all Kate's failures. The loved crowing about every talk show appearance, every new project that came along. How many times did they tell each other, "Kate is winning!" Yet, Kate has failed over and over and over. They want to gloat. They want to taunt and laugh and tell the non-fans how stupid we were to ever say that Kate was over. But after the cruise, RnR marathons, CC, The Stir, the picture controversy, and now the cookbook, they don't have anything to gloat about. They are frustrated and angry and looking for a fight. Kate didn't even get a single talk show appearance (or even a call-in) out of this picture situation. Jon at least got a call-in for Kim K's baby, but Kate can't even get that.
Looking at MSN home page just now, there is a picture of Kate and below it a line that says, "Sorry ladies, Playboy just isn't interested".
I stand by my support for Paula. Although I don't condone the language she used, this is overkill.
The bad PR and public disgrace is 100% over the use of the "n-word." Many celebrities are sued at some point. They do lose everything before they even have their day in court. Gordon Ramsay, for example, is currently being sued for calling someone a fat pig. All his shows are still on, last time I checked.
My teaching career was nearly ruined because of a "gotcha, you said something" attack. (I won't go into details here, but it did not involve anything racial). Until you've been in this position, it's easy to think it won't happen to you.
As for Kate and her photo--tasteless. How did they get it?
Ya know, I sort of understand where Paula Deen gets her racist behavior/opinions, etc. I don't condone her actions, but I understand what she must have grown up with. I'm about the same age as she is, so I remember Brown Vs. the Board of Education -- vaguely. I remember hearing the chants of "2,4,6,8! We don't want to integrate" on the news. I'm old enough to remember my father being asked to leave the American Legion because he invited one of his students, a disabled Korean War vet and medal winner, to join. The student was African American. I can remember my church being split down the middle because my father, who was the Minister of Music, invited a friend and classmate of mine -- a young woman who grew up to star at the Met and became a multiple Grammy winner -- to sing at Sunday evening services. She was African American. My mother and I sat with her parents in the congregation. Afterwards, several members of the Board of Elders asked him to resign as Minister of Music and took him to task for "allowing" Mom and me to sit with them. The minister stood behind him. Half the membership left and formed another church. I'm old enough to remember the local swimming pool closing its doors when I was in high school, rather than admit non-whites. I'm old enough to remember some students celebrating when Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated -- and this was at a Christian University. Racism was pervasive and considered the norm by many people. And I grew up in Ohio. I can just imagine what it was like in the Deep South. Fortunately, my parents taught me that skin color didn't matter, character did. Apparently she didn't have parents who taught her that. When you grow up seeing that sort of thing, and knowing that it's accepted by a large part of the society you live in, you don't see the evil. So -- I understand Paula Deen. I don't approve of, condone or justify her behavior, but I do understand her blindness to the hurtfulness and inappropriateness of her behavior.
BTW -- I do believe KK was canned by The Stir. It makes much more sense than her signing a contract for only 5 months worth of bogs.
Is it possible that all these companies are now dumping Paula, not for using the n word, but because they have really discovered how "inauthentic" she is?
I read where she hired a firm that does PR, specifically "damage control". It seems to be just a little too late for that. It's something she should have done before all hell broke loose.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 1h
When I was a kid I use to manipulate my face to see how I would look as an Asian. I certainty wasn't a racist then or now
Kate's not a kid, though, or is MsGoody implying that Kate is stuck at the emotional/maturity level of a child, and therefore, it's okay to "manipulate" her face?
"As for the fan tweeting David Perel and Bullyville, there are 3 of them who have been egging the non-fans on this past week. What phonies they are. They don't want peace between fans and non-fans. They really want BV to get involved again."
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I can understand the sheep baiting the haters and egging them on, but I went over there and looked at the recent tit-for-tat, and was surprised to see that the non-fans involved are taking the bait and just keeping this thing going. I would have hoped that they were smart enough to know better and know when to walk away. Nobody is going to win in this, and the non-fans are looking just as dumb as the sheeple.
Is 23 blogs an accurate number? If that's the case, no way do I buy she wasn't canned. No one signs a contract for 23 blogs then quits just when summer is starting with the kids with lots of things to blog about on hand.
The way I see the Paula issue is she has not had her day in court yet on the accusations, but the deposition was her own words and is fair game. Even going by her own words she's in a world of trouble. But I'm actually kind of irritated at this point the way this problem is being spun, because it goes so beyond someone who is saying a racist word. To me this case is about a woman who is inappropriate, disrespectful, racist or at least insensitive to minorities two-faced, and used fame and power to stomp on others. Yet hardly any of that is being talked about. It's just the N word.
HOWEVER.....she is not all that different than many other celebrities who were not what they seem. Even Lance Armstrong was not smacked around this badly for his transgressions. Mentally, I hope she is dealing with this okay and I do hope that at this point people take a deep breath and let the courts handle this now.
Since so much of being a celeb is based on image, though, I don't think she'd have a leg to stand on being fired. All of those contracts I'm sure have a clause that allows them to drop her if her image is ever compromised.
The stuff she let her brother do almost bothers me the most. He is such a pig. I cannot imagine working with him. I am not against it in the privacy of your own home, but pornography embarrasses me as I'm sure it does many people, I would be so mortified to walk in on someone openly looking at porn at work, it would be torture to be there.
Sometimes I think it's worse to stand by and let someone behave like that. At least if you are the one doing the bad behavior you are owning it.
Apparently Perel's tweet to stop the fighting went in one hoof and out the other. They are still including him in their tweets. Wouldn't you like to throw a few of the haters and sheep in a room together and see what happens? ;)
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BTW -- I do believe KK was canned by The Stir. It makes much more sense than her signing a contract for only 5 months worth of bogs.
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I believe it, too. But unless someone knows something and spills it, we may never know.
Wow even Jimmy Carter is now saying Paula Deen has been punished time to move on.
It took two years, but I think Kate is finally bored with twitter. I hope she spends more time with her children in her free time.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 So I'm all set & ready 4 a Friday nite tweet session...question is...will our main event...#WonderGal take a break? :)
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You're got to be kidding me. WonderGal? Get a room!
Layla said... 99
To those wondering about book sales, there were 165 pre-orders at the end of May. So far in June there have been 58 pre-orders (53 in the US, 4 in the UK, and 1 in Canada). That makes 228 total pre-orders after more than 3 months. Of course, there are also orders on Barnes&Noble, but I feel confident in saying there are no more than 400-450 total pre-orders.
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Layla, I agree. My B&N orders, both paper and e-book, are always lower than my Amazon sales in their respective categories. I'd put money on B&N sales being no more than 1/2 to 2/3 of the Amazon sales--tops.
Cookbooks are hard to sell because of internet recipes. Then you have Kate the Pariah with her Asian eyes, her wooden spoon, and her Salmonella Chicken. Plus her timing is too late. This should have happened in 2008 or '09.
Such a long window for pre-orders is odd at best and shows the company (or Kate) is skittish and hedging. People will say, "I'll just order it when it actually comes out in case I change my mind." Then they'll forget.
It's the wrong book by the wrong person at the wrong time in the wrong way. This is going to make her S.S. Katanic cruise look like the Love Boat!
rainbowsandunicorns...90 Nah. She claims Milo on her taxes. Any deduction she can get.
Just Down the Road...95 Yes it was me. Hoping you continue to be safe. This weather pattern sucks.
Layla...99 Jon got a call-in for Kim K's baby! Why?
I agree that it's now piling on with Paula Deen. At some point, enough is enough.
It took two years, but I think Kate is finally bored with twitter. I hope she spends more time with her children in her free time.
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If that's the case, and I hope it is, she should delete her account. Otherwise it will just continue to be a battleground for the fans and non-fans. I wonder where they'd all go to fight it out?
I think Kate is bored with twitter because her "investment" if you will didn't get the returns she hoped for. She thought by going on twitter networks would be beating down her door offering her new shows, that the grifting could go on forever and ever. None of this has worked out as planned, so she does what she always does when something or someone can't help her anymore. She kicks them and it to the curb. That is another of her "GOSSELIN FAMILY TRADITIONS."
Oops, I added wrong. There have been 223 cookbook pre-orders, not 228. I'm wondering how the sheeple are going to spin this failure when it's published.The economy? Lack of demand for cookbooks? Nah, they'll just blame it on Jon. It's always Jon's fault.
To Virginia Penn Mom (#110): "The S.S. Katanic"... :).
I just watched a clip of Cher on Andy Cohen's show. Andy was obviously thrilled at having Cher on his show, and who popped up to meet her but Anderson Cooper. Cher had them both eating out of her hand. I had to laugh at seeing the guy who named Kate "Jackhole of the Week" and the one who put her on his Ridiculist together. Too funny!
@Kateplusmy8 So I'm all set & ready 4 a Friday nite tweet session...question is...will our main event...#WonderGal take a break? :)
Milo may have been all set and ready, but Kate obviously wasn't. She's bored with Twitter. It's become a battleground/sniping venue for the haters and sheeple, plus a lusting arena for obsessive fans like Milo...and a platform for inane jokes from the Irish Creeper.
Time for Kate to pull the plug. It's been on life support long enough.
Nah, they'll just blame it on Jon. It's always Jon's fault.
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And Robert. Don't forget Robert. We wouldn't want to leave him out!
I have a few thoughts on the picture posting. At first I was more angry at whoever posted that picture. I felt Kate was guilty of stupidity, not guile. But whoever posted it clearly meant to harm and to me, my opinion, that is sin. Premeditated harm to others comes from the pits of Hell and no where else. PERIOD!
After reading some of the conspiracy theories I have changed my mind. I do think it is more probable than not that she did plant that picture. It just doesn't add up how she explained it. It also fits her MO and craftiness.
First of all, that picture was taken at a time when Kate was very vocal about her feelings for the fans. What were her words? "They need to get a life".
Second, she insinuates it was Robert or Jon that posted it. That doesn't make sense either. Jon has remained pretty quiet and when he does talk he has complimented her. Robert, he doesn't do things like that secretly, he post them on his blog proudly.
Third, Kate doesn't appreciate anything that "can't help them" so it just make sense that that was a "happy time" in the garage. Back then Jon pretty much agreed with Kate, imo, to keep the water still. I know you know what I mean. I think and I won't say for sure, I wasn't there, they were going through the things fans sent them and when she saw the costumes she started making fun. After all, what could they do with that. How would that help them. And Jon, like I said, was pretty much conditioned to go with the flow. I think the both were making fun of the costume and having a inappropriate laugh at the fans expense.
I feel shameful to admit it but I have done that myself before. Believe me though, I usually beat myself up bad for it. I know better.
Anyway, the best way I have found to judge situations is what seems to ring the most true. Either way though, I feel I fall in danger of reaping what I sow, or as some say, karma, when I hold to "that's what happened" instead of "it's my opinion" or I try to sway others to have ill will because maybe that's what I feel, when I just don't really know because I wasn't there. PLEASE...that was for me and no one else. For real.
The bottom line is, meant to or not, it offended and hurt some. There should have been compassion and an apology. She does and is reaping what she sows. If any think she isn't, what a sad, lonely and miserable life she lives. She has a reason to cry her woe's, but she has no excuse to cry them. Yep, repentance and meekness can change your life around to a happy one. You'll even get added blessings for your goodness. She just refuses.
Time for a time capsule comment! This one is from way back in 2010 during the RV episode. It seemed an appropriate tie in to the bizarre Happy 18th birthday now let me tell you how TOUGH life is how much people are going to hate on you swan song.
It's from Maryann, we've had a couple Maryann's here so not sure which one:
"You know how those infomercials always make the problems/inconvenience so HUGE, so that you will be tempted to buy the "solution" -- that is how Kate huffs and puffs through her daily life. Everything is just larger-than-life difficult. Those kids probably have no idea how to please her and they have to be nervous as they try."
Forbes.com had interesting article about mass marketers and public scandals by Laura Heller. Summary: mass marketers like Walmart, Target are in business to sell things, not to manage a controversy or engage in a debate. others have come back from scandal to successful careers like Martha Stewart and Michael Vick after jail terms and Tiger Woods after his messy divorce. Paula might be able to, and then regain the business she has lost.
my opinion of all the companies dropping her: the attorneys and or folk for those companies took a good look at the deposition, the allegations of the lawsuit, and Paula being so defensive. Saying someone evil wants to take away what she has worked for. If she keeps that attitude, this harassment lawsuit will not go away and worse things about working conditions she turned a blind eye to will come out. Bubba is alleged to have been drunk on the job quite often. If she continues to defend him, she will have dug her own pit that will be almost impossible to get out of.
They should have settled that lawsuit. and Paula should have been advised to say that she could not comment on something that is pending litigation. She has got to stop talking and make the lawsuit go away asap and get Bubba away from any of her businesses.
Njay, AND she didn't have to worry about getting fired from the Stir for it because apparently she was already done or almost done. So she could plant something like that, feign outrage and a big ole non-apology, drum up interest in herself, and then as she planned it, come out the hero who was picked on. The only thing she didn't count on was that no one cared except a handful of people who had a personal connection to it who stumbled upon it and were deeply hurt. Sigh. Someone had a good point and that's that Robert usually owns up to what he does.
Not saying I believe it, but it can't be ruled out. Curiouser and curiouser.
They should have settled that lawsuit. and Paula should have been advised to say that she could not comment on something that is pending litigation. She has got to stop talking and make the lawsuit go away asap and get Bubba away from any of her businesses.
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I agree Joy. I see companies like these as a simple money in money out calculation. If the controversy from Paula Deen would cause them to lose more money than had they kept her, or good will (which translates to lost dollars usually) they will drop her. If keeping her still makes them money without significant loss of good will, they will keep her. One by one their war room meetings were crunching the numbers and realizing it had been tipped the other way and they were in the red keeping her.
They do NOT factor in hurting Paula Deen, or piling on, or feelings, or anything like that. It is all money in money out.
The problem is, when everyone is crunching numbers and realizing the numbers don't work anymore and within a 24 hour period all dropping her at once, it starts to make HER look like the victim when she wasn't. And that's bothersome too, because we really shouldn't be feeling sorry for her. But since this is all just doing the math, that doesn't factor in.
Oh one other thing I think she really left out of the Today interview was her plans to FIX things.
For instance, he's my brother and I love him but it's become clear to me he can no longer work for me so he's gone. I have hired top consultants in the friendly work environment field (or whoever does this!) who are going to come in and help me overhaul our management style and the work environment so it can be a safe place. I'm going to be taking some classes about cultural awareness and sensitivity. I am going to therapy and learning how to better treat people and learning why it is I have been like this for so long.
Show us you are making an EFFORT to fix things. There was nothing about how anything is going to be different from here on out, and IMO that was a huge mistake that could have helped her recover.
"You know how those infomercials always make the problems/inconvenience so HUGE, so that you will be tempted to buy the "solution" -- that is how Kate huffs and puffs through her daily life.
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So true! Such a right on description of how Kate presents her life. Nobody knows the trouble she's seen.
. I have hired top consultants in the friendly work environment field (or whoever does this!) who are going to come in and help me overhaul our management style and the work environment so it can be a safe place. I'm going to be taking some classes about cultural awareness and sensitivity. I am going to therapy and learning how to better treat people and learning why it is I have been like this for so long.
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Yes, I agree. On the other hand, though, since she is being sued, I would imagine that her attorneys told her not to mention any of this because it would be an admission of guilt, of sorts, to say that perhaps her work environment was questionable. She may have been told to say as little as possible because of the impending lawsuit.
Yes the attorneys may very well have told her not to do that. The problem is the attorney is giving advice only to help her case. The attorney is not worrying about her career or how she will survive this--that's not an attorney's problem. For instance an attorney might say I am advising you that you must go to your AA meetings three times a week or you're going to be in violation of probation and thrown back in jail, and the client says I have to go to my job I can't go that much, an attorney is going to say I understand that I'm saying you have to go to AA or your case is screwed. The job is not their problem. But it's obviously a major concern for the person with the job!
Anyway, the attorneys may have been ticked if she said things like that but it may have saved her career.
Njay, AND she didn't have to worry about getting fired from the Stir for it because apparently she was already done or almost done. So she could plant something like that, feign outrage and a big ole non-apology, drum up interest in herself, and then as she planned it, come out the hero who was picked on. The only thing she didn't count on was that no one cared except a handful of people who had a personal connection to it who stumbled upon it and were deeply hurt. Sigh. Someone had a good point and that's that Robert usually owns up to what he does.
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All of this is possible. The only thing, though, that bothers me is that Robert referenced the photo in his book. He knew it existed, but apparently it didn't surface until now. Unless Kate read his book, where would she have gotten the idea to plant the photo? Was she sitting and waiting for just the right time to anonymously tweet a link to the photo? I don't know, and we might not ever find out...just one of the mysteries of life!
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Ya know, I sort of understand where Paula Deen gets her racist behavior/opinions, etc. I don't condone her actions, but I understand what she must have grown up with. I'm about the same age as she is, so I remember Brown Vs. the Board of Education -- vaguely.
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Readerlady, I hear ya. I'm a little younger but not by much. Today I was channel surfing and clicked on The Partridge Family. I was shocked at the racial tone of the show. I remember liking it when I was young but I never really saw the racial thing.
I'm embarrassed to say that up till lately I thought the racial chatter was usually a bit over the top. After seeing what I saw today though I totally understand that it is quite real and alive.
The part of the show I watched showed Richard Pryor and, I'm not sure of who the other person was, had a community center. They were trying to raise money to pay the rent or they would be evicted. The Partridge family was there to sing but the two men were afraid that the music would not "pack the house". Therefore they wouldn't get the money they would need. The manager was more afraid that the, as he said, hoodlums would hurt them and asked the two men to guarantee they could protect them. When it was a half hour after the show was to start, the two men came in and overly apologized that no one came. The door opens and three black gangster looking thugs came in and wanted the rent. Mrs. Partridge steps in front of them and threatens them that if they hurt the two men she will hurt them. The two men were so grateful for the brave white lady (my words as I saw it) was there to protect them.
I tell ya, I really didn't think it went down like that. Changed my mind though. It makes me more aware now, for sure.
I think one of the reason Kate feels so disappointed is because of the enormous gap between her actual abilities and her delusions of grandeur. She hit the jackpot because the kids came along at the right time, before the public was sickened by Octomom, and because the contrast in Jon and Kate's personality was interesting. She cannot sustain interest because, while I believe she is intelligent (I'm ducking, now), she is deadly dull because she is incurious and her world view is so limited. Oh, and she has no actual talent or work ethic. And, she is a harridan and it is excruciating to watch her exploit her children.
Hi, PJ's Momma! Good to see you posting again.
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Thank you for summarizing Jason and Molly Mesnick's podcast. I posted the link last night, but I should have summarized it before posting.
Sympathy for Paula Deen? Not from me. The woman is a fraud. A complete megalomaniac who appears to only care about herself: see GMA interview.
She can wipe her tears with thousand dollar bills. She'll be fine.
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These offenses do not amount to destroying everything she's got. My gosh, I hope Paula's friends and family are keeping very close to her.
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As to cancelling the cookbook, I am in agreement. Whatever I personally think of Paula Deen, it seems clear that she still has many fans who would purchase this cookbook. It might not sell as many as before these revelations, but I bet it would still sell a respectable amount.
I think there still remains an "old boys club" that will not hesitate to take down a successful businesswoman, given the chance. I do have it in my heart to feel sorry for Deen - but again, if she had not allowed such a toxic work environment, then she wouldn't be embroiled in this lawsuit. She needs to trim back her business ventures, be frugal with her income and savings, lead a quieter life for awhile, and during that time, make a concerted effort to 1. Fire her brother or otherwise cut him out of her corporate enterprise. He's toxic. 2. Institute new policies in every workplace, ensuring all employees receive equal treatment. 3. No more unequal pay for men and women in the same positions. 4. Outreach to the black community and stop referring to slaves as "the help." Acknowledge the historical background, and do some community service to broaden her own awareness of people of all colors. 5. Accept the fact that her viewpoint is not acceptable - if she wants to be successful, she needs to "grow up."
Great advice Millicent. May I add she needs to stop deflecting blame like talking about others who use the N word, and worry about how her own choices got her here whether her "punishment" is just or not.
The only thing, though, that bothers me is that Robert referenced the photo in his book. He knew it existed, but apparently it didn't surface until now. Unless Kate read his book, where would she have gotten the idea to plant the photo?
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It is something that will probably never be proven so all speculation has to come from the integrity of all those who it could have been. I know that Jon went through some evil times. By that, like I stated in my post that premeditated harm is evil, I also believe what I said about repentance and "meekness". I think it helps to tone down the karma some, but it is the law established to try to keep us on the path of learning from our mistakes. That's my thought anyway. I truly believe that Jon now wants to do all he thinks is best for his children and setting their mother up is not what is best for them. The sad part is that I think so many, and I'm not meaning this blog, think he should do greater than what is in his power yet they let themselves off the hook and say I'm doing the best I can.
Robert, well I already said why I don't think it was him. It just doesn't ring true to his MO. It doesn't mean I think what he does isn't harmful and wrong. His work is premeditated harm but he is not sneaky about it. Therefore it's not his MO. He wasn't even sneaky when he got the hard drives.
But Kate...humm? We don't know that she did or didn't read the book. If not, the one thing we don't know though is what parts of the book she does know about via discussions of it's contents from other blogs. I remember the fans tweeting parts and mocking. Also discussing if they were mentioned. Who knows, it's very possible that somehow Steve sleuthed out info or even a copy and Kate very well could have read it. He doesn't have his resume and his company because he has no experience. She could have brainstormed, hehe oxymoron, with Steve different ways to create her master plan and remembered that Robert mentioned it.
So many scenarios possible but again the bottom line, she hurt people and didn't fix it. That in itself is evil and we all know that is her MO. It just rings more true than not.
Oh wow, I just thought of one other thing. Robert posted the book for rag mags. and alike to view. It could have been anyone of them. After all, it would contain pics. as documented proof. Ah, the plot thickens. You think? Tell me. I would like to hear your opinions on that possibility.
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Ex Nurse, I agree with you. I have always believed she was intelligent. She just isn't wise. She cares about no one but herself, she is lazy, covetous, conniving, self righteous, manipulative, hurtful...you can stop me at any time. lol. Anyone who can say they don't live life apologetically, they live it purposely is just plain evil and the truth is not in them. IMO
njay--I agree that it wasn't Robert's MO. The thing that stands out most in the tweet about the picture is that it wasn't only tweeted to Kate and David Perel, it also included 3 of the most outspoken "haters", as if to imply that they, along with Robert, were involved too.
Kate probably does have a copy of the book. If you were suing someone because of it, it would make sense to have a copy to know what was actually said about you. I'm sure that BV has a copy too. One of the chapters in the book is titled "Kate Gosselin is a Racist". The reference to that picture by Robert wouldn't be too hard to find.
The whole thing smells of BV doing it with Kate's blessing. What better way to once again make Kate look like the victim of bullying and to blame the "haters" for it? Could also be why BV didn't get involved after the picture was published, because they were a part of it.
On the Today show this morning, it was reported that the publishing company that cancelled the release of Paula's latest cookbook also cancelled a five book contract they signed with her last summer. On my homepage there was a headline that said 11 companies have abandoned her. Ouch.
Millicent...133 Great comment and totally agree.
Njay...I don't think Robert posted the photo because, as you said, he would've put it on his site. Jon's been quiet so what would be the point of him putting it out there. We'll never know whether Kate posted it or not.
Ex Nurse -- No need to duck. KK has to be more intelligent than most give her credit for. She made it through nursing school and manages to pass the Boards to maintain her license. That's not something you can cheat and fake your way through. Nursing school, regardless of the type of program you're enrolled in, is HARD. I think KK is incredibly self-involved, oblivious to social mores, rude, socially awkward, vain, sociopathic, narcissistic, mean, and nasty. I do not think she is stupid.
I go back and forth on her intelligence. I don't know, she's said some pretty dumb things. Like looking at Mount Rushmore and telling her kids that's FDR up there. She is cunning and manipulative that's for sure. But as far as general intelligence I can't decide whether it's all cotton up there or that she just is too LAZY to bother to learn information most bright people know and pay attention to what's happening around her.
Had she actually had an interest in information like who is on Mt. Rushmore maybe she would be able to retain it. Maybe she just chose not to learn it because she's lazy or didn't care. I mean she was able to get credentialed as a nurse which is not an easy thing. But she was MOTIVATED to do that because she wanted to snag herself a doctor. I'd be rather curious what her IQ is. She could be that smart kid in the class who WOULD get A's if he actually cared, but he doesn't so he's a C student.
Speaking of Mt Rushmore in case you didn't see this graphic of Kate up there I did, I quite like it!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HB8TXvVke2Y/Th0EpUJQM4I/AAAAAAAABsE/LkgMF3usFSU/s1600/katerush.jpg
What about how she has led fans on like Milo without fear that might snap and turn on her like Jodi Foster's fan? What about exposing her kids to editors who were pedophiles and learning nothing from it, or speeding excessively?
Do you think raw intelligence and common sense are on two separate playing fields?
For instance, can someone be smart enough to pass the boards, but stupid enough to get involved with a fan who could snap? I don't think there is any question her common sense is lacking.
The NY Times has an article about Paula's book and book deal being dropped.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/business/media/publisher-drops-book-deal-with-tv-chef-paula-deen.html?_r=0
It gives another reason why the book and deal may have been dropped. Not due to the controversy, but due to her losing the outlets that normally sell her products.
"A person with knowledge of Random House’s decision to cancel the contract said, “When Walmart, Target and J. C. Penney all announced they are discontinuing their Paula Deen business, including books, it is awfully tough to stay the course of a publication. It was a business decision.”
Ms. Deen has published 14 cookbooks, starting in 1998 with “The Lady and Sons Savannah Country Cookbook.” Together, they have sold more than eight million copies.
But many of the sales outlets that normally sell thousands of Ms. Deen’s books — like Walmart, Target, Kmart and QVC — would have refused to carry the new one."
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I go back and forth on her intelligence. I don't know, she's said some pretty dumb things. Like looking at Mount Rushmore and telling her kids that's FDR up there. She is cunning and manipulative that's for sure. But as far as general intelligence I can't decide whether it's all cotton up there or that she just is too LAZY to bother to learn information most bright people know and pay attention to what's happening around her.
Had she actually had an interest in information like who is on Mt. Rushmore maybe she would be able to retain it. Maybe she just chose not to learn it because she's lazy or didn't care. I mean she was able to get credentialed as a nurse which is not an easy thing. But she was MOTIVATED to do that because she wanted to snag herself a doctor. I'd be rather curious what her IQ is. She could be that smart kid in the class who WOULD get A's if he actually cared, but he doesn't so he's a C student.
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I used to think that Kate was an idiot savant.
Now, I just think that she is lazy, and ignorant.
Who is this? A new Milo-in-Training? Another Brownie?
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@Kateplusmy8 Very good wisdom -- it came to you at a high price but you're a better/stronger/wiser person for it!!
What about her writing? Her blogs are truly terrible, from her writing style to what she chooses to write about. They do not seem to be written by someone all that bright.
But then I guess you could say that's not intelligence she is just lazy and doesn't want to bother to learn how to write a great blog.
Njay...I don't think Robert posted the photo because, as you said, he would've put it on his site.
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With a lawsuit supposedly in the works, I just can't see anyone taking the chance of publishing a "private" photo on the site...one more piece of ammunition for the plaintiff's attorney.
It is quite a burning question why BV didn't jump to her defense. Wouldn't this be the perfect reason to say you see photos of this woman are taken out of context and now she's being bullied with them what an awful life she leads! Or won't they touch racism with a 10 foot pole? Way to really be there for her--NOT! It was also odd to include three of her biggest soldiers (who were working with BV) in the tweet. Why? They're going to see it anyway.
I still get a giggle out of when it was released and their frantic reaction: red alert, red alert, battle stations battle stations this is not a drill! Move, men, move! That was so funny.
It was also odd to include three of her biggest soldiers (who were working with BV) in the tweet.
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The 3 people in the tweet were not Kate's soldiers, they were Kate "haters", two of which BV has specifically gone after. I think they were included to implicate them as being part of the picture being outed.
Robert would not have included any of the "haters" in a tweet like that.
Oh it was the haters? Even ODDER.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 26m
#Allisstair @kateplusmy8 I am neither a hoodlum or gangster. Never have been. This is my LAST tweet to you. YOU ARE DISRESPECTFUL & RACIST.
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Both the fans and non-fans now use hashtags instead of the @ when tweeting to someone they're fighting with.
What's their thinking behind this? If they don't use the @ they can't be named in a bullying lawsuit because they can say I wasn't tweeting them. I don't get it.
Exactly, I don't think Robert would try to give the impression he was implicating any of "us." He does not operate that way, never has. If he wants something done he does it himself, he does not try to wrap any of us up in his drama unless someone chooses to be involved.
I think one of the biggest mistakes Kate did was implicate HERSELF in still having possession of the photo. Therefore, it could have come from her or her croonies. She should have pretended she doesn't have it anymore, that would have helped eliminate her as a suspect.
That's another thing, she should have said she will delete it now just to show her respect for the people it hurt.
What's also suspicious is how that chapter didn't get a lot of attention. None of us could even remember discussion of that photo (I do now, but it was very very buried back in my brain.) So why would someone from our camp think to bring that up when it never got much attention in the first place? Unless it was Kate herself trying to drum up some controversy.
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Who is this? A new Milo-in-Training? Another Brownie?
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Probably. She also claims that her husband's mother was good friends with Jon's mother. Is that supposed to make her an "expert" in all things Kate?
Part of her twitter bio says "Dislike idol worship, arrogance, phoniness & hypocrisy..."
So why is she sticking up for Kate?
"A person with knowledge of Random House’s decision to cancel the contract said, “When Walmart, Target and J. C. Penney all announced they are discontinuing their Paula Deen business, including books, it is awfully tough to stay the course of a publication. It was a business decision.”
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I did a search for Penney online, and nothing Paula comes up. Walmart still has her products for sale, as does Target. I wonder if they are going to pull those items, or just let them sell out. Walmart still has the boys' cookbooks, but not Paula's. When they pull the products, are they including the sons' books as well, or only those by Paula?
Someone at celebritydirtylaundry.com thinks that it was Kate, herself, who planted the picture as a publicity stunt.
"Let’s be real – this is the most anyone’s spoken about Kate Gosselin in months, if not years. When was the last time she was relevant? And I mean relevant in mainstream media, not just gossip blogs? Right now, everyone from the Hollywood Reporter to major news outlets like CBS and MSNBC are reporting on Kate’s photo and subsequent comments. It’s pretty obvious that this whole thing was staged,"
"Yeah, I have no doubt that Kate staged this whole thing. She knew that even though people would cry ‘racist’, she could use the fact that she married an Asian man and had eight half-Asian children to her advantage, and to prove that she wasn’t actually a racist. So now, she’s left with a ton of publicity and endless possibilities of where to leverage it."
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-racist-asian-photo-leaked-publicity-stunt-0627/
What "high price"???
Kate has a charmed life. She is a millionaire with eight healthy beautiful children living in a mansion. She apparently doesn't even have to work anymore. She can do whatever she wants and live off the kids' money, this is exactly what she's been doing for two years now. She has been around the world. She gets her hair done in NYC and a date night is jetting off to a comedy club in Vegas. She had a messy divorce for all of five months then it was over and her precious show continued for ages after that. She claims to have all these close family friends so she doesn't seem to be lacking in that, and she claims to be part of a thriving church community or at least she did for awhile. She claims the kids are the best in the class and she's the best mom.
Yet Kate has seriously successfully convinced her fans that she has crawled her way out of the ashes. That she is some kind of martyr for having it tough and surviving. I don't understand where this comes from. WHAT hardships? There is absolutely nothing tough about her charmed life.
Probably. She also claims that her husband's mother was good friends with Jon's mother. Is that supposed to make her an "expert" in all things Kate?
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Whoever it is, she doesn't know that these are automated tweets with no actual "person" behind them. She's responding to them! I hope she doesn't expect "them" to tweet her back!
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@Gossip_Gorilla @Kateplusmy8 "APPEARS" is the KEY WORD. DO SOME RESEARCH before you "gossip!"
"Part of her twitter bio says "Dislike idol worship, arrogance, phoniness & hypocrisy..."
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Idol worship? So then she really isn't fond of Milo since Milo's whole life revolves around worshiping an idol!
I would not call Kate intelligent, but she is not dumb either. Enough book smarts to get through her nursing program and pass the boards. I think she is an average learner, but but does not have the drive to go farther; she is also lazy and incurious, so really does not care to go farther if it means using her brain. She uses her manipulative sklls instead; but they may have taken her as far as she can go at this point; her narcisstic personality does not see that. OTOH I think Jon is actually smarter, but was also a lazy learner, dropped out of college to explore and fell into the Kate trap, and now has a divorce, 8 kids and a complicated life. To hear her sheeple talk about her hard life, and all the work she does on a daily basis, is sickening really.
Re: Kate's intelligence. I think hers is limited. Maybe she can study and pass the nursing boards (I am a nurse) which is not easy, but her general knowledge, grammar skills, awareness of current events etc. are very narrow. Common sense? Nil. But she is conniving and manipulative and this takes some savvy, of an unsavory variety..smarts used for her narcissistic purposes only.
I personally don't believe Kate is an intelligent person as she lacks curiosity. I do think she is saavy. Initially, she instinctively knew their popularity was building and parlayed that in to bigger rewards for herself and her family. When Jon grew weary, she had to manipulate a way of dropping him by choosing her career over her marriage for the greater good......her fans. It all worked for awhile until she believed her own self-importance trumped everyone else's place in her celebrity life. Never once did I sense that she examined her behaviour, much less listened to those trying to guide her. Instead, she believed her fan base would carry her forever.
She has had so many lost opportunities since her show was cancelled to kept the interest going, that is what an intelligent person would have done. Instead, she remains stuck, wondering why no-one is knocking down her door. Intelligent people learn from their downfalls, they don't engage in "the world is out to get me mentality". Right up to her last blog at the Stir proves to me she lacks insight and reflection, all components of basic intelligence.
I'm trying to catch up on all of the comments and I apologize if this has already been addressed and the discussion closed, but I'd like to add something about Paula's home value and location.
The complaint against Paula may say $13mil, but that's a gross exaggeration of it's value.
The link posted showing Paula's home: http://hookedonhouses.net/2009/12/09/its-paula-deens-house-in-savannah-yall/
is not the house mentioned in the complaint against Paula and not where she lives now and even if it was, it's absolutely not valued at $13 million. She lives on Wilmington Island close to Savannah, GA in the home shown at the bottom of that page, not the quaint, older one that was the subject of the blog.
I've seen the Wilmington Isl house (from the outside). It's of newer construction. According to the property tax records she & her husband bought it in 2006 for $3,750,000 and has a value of over $5 million now. While that is definitely an expensive, waterfront house, located in an exclusive area full of other similarly expensive homes, it is surrounded by very humble homes worth far, far less. In fact her house, located in an area away from the water would likely be valued at half the price. Knowing how large her 'empire' was and how much revenue and income (I'm assuming) she generated each year, I don't think she's living in that extravagant of a house.
Here's a clearer photo of it: http://boa.chathamcounty.org/Portals/BoardofAssessors/PropertyRecordCards/Photos/RESIDENT/10108/01005f.jpg
Someone's comment today mentioning Steve and his company's capabilities made a light bulb go off for me. It makes me wonder why Kate didn't use Steve's professional security firm with it's world wide connections and sophisticated capabilities to dig up the dirt on her bullies and Robert and Jon rather than her "using" BV. Did Steve refuse to get involved in the questionable activities? Are she and Steve still close? Did she go rogue and take matters in her own hands? I'd love to know what his take is on the whole mess and why she ended up handling it as she did and especially his take on how she's going to be involved in the rumored lawsuits.
And there you have it. The sheeple have it all planned out for Kate. Read from the bottom up.
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201
@msgoody2shoes21 @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett Would be nice if they could be blocked from reading!
29 June
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett Well then..... Closed comments it is!
29 June
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett HaHa...unfortunately I don't think the mom of 8 has time 2moderate!
29 June
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett @SandieBellz And either close or moderate comments to keeo out hate messages.
29 June
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett @SandieBellz Yep...& she can make it a #Marketplace 4products she endorses!
29 June
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett @SandieBellz ... updates $ articles for women & families. Don't forget sponsors ♥
29 June
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @CarleneMarie_1 @parker_scarlett @SandieBellz We have so many many folks anxious 4U 2start bloggin on ur own site! :)
29 June
CarleneMarie @CarleneMarie_1
@parker_scarlett @MiloandJack @SandieBellz @The_Stir Me too!
29 June
Scarlett Parker @parker_scarlett
@MiloandJack @CarleneMarie_1 @SandieBellz @The_Stir Loved reading her blog posts & l look forward to seeing them on her website. :-)
29 June
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@CarleneMarie_1 @SandieBellz U got it! Kate is just moving on..that's all. Actually Kate brought lots of publicity 2that blog.Their benefit.
28 June
CarleneMarie @CarleneMarie_1
@MiloandJack @SandieBellz And so, it had NOTHING to do with the pic that came out. End of story.
28 June
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@SandieBellz Correct. It was N a tweet abt Cara saying she would do last blog abt wanting ice cream! It was contractual end2blog that's all!
28 June
Sandie @SandieBellz
@MiloandJack @BarbGilmer @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 If i recall Kate subtly let everyone know her last blog entry was coming 2 weeks ago.
28 June
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I just saw Jon on TV. He had a cameo appearance on the show "Tanked", which is about these guys who create aquariums. Anyway, the were installing a tank in a Philly restaurant and there he was. The guys asked him how the kids were and he said "they're great, thanks for asking". Then they said he should get an aquarium for them and he agreed. It was a short snippet, but he was gracious and seemed like he was doing well.
They're going to shoot themselves in the foot. Comments make or break a blog. Very few blogs don't allow comments. They are SOO focused on fighting the "hate" that they want to do things that are not helping Kate.
She can moderate comments if she doesn't want to post anything negative. Simple. PW does it.
I find it funny that they are all telling Kate how she should run her website. These are the same people who tell the "haters" to stop telling Kate how to run her life, but they're doing exactly the same thing.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 165
Like Kate would allow the haters to comment on her blog post on her site.
That's isn't going to happen.
Kate is a twit said... 166
I find it funny that they are all telling Kate how she should run her website. These are the same people who tell the "haters" to stop telling Kate how to run her life, but they're doing exactly the same thing.
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But the fans see themselves as helping Kate with their advice.
And that's why they can suggest things for her to do.
Sheeple Herder - He did that clip last year. He did look good. I found it really ironic, considering it's a TLC show. :-)
So TLC was fine with allowing Jon to be in one of their shows, but we've seen no update show with Kate and the kids.
And there you have it. The sheeple have it all planned out for Kate. Read from the bottom up.
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She's Kan-do Kate. Why do the sheep think she's a helpless single mother who needs their assistance? She's not helpless when it comes to manipulating, conniving, and grifting. She does quite well on her own.
They have set themselves up to be her pr reps, and of course, they would expect something in return. It would be funny if it wouldn't be so pathetic.
The Carlene Snodgrass person (or whatever her name is) is just as annoying as Milo. Kate really knows how to attract them.
The link posted showing Paula's home: http://hookedonhouses.net/2009/12/09/its-paula-deens-house-in-savannah-yall/
is not the house mentioned in the complaint against Paula and not where she lives now and even if it was, it's absolutely not valued at $13 million.
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Didn't someone here say yesterday that it was a typo...that it was actually three million?
This information was given to me by a very reliable source, she has been proven in the past to have inside information that proved correct. I'm sorry I can't divulge her name, it wouldn't be fair to her. The info came from a PR person.
3 weeks ago The Stir released KG due to A LOT of members boycotting the site because she came off as being phoney and yes all the posts were about mememe/IIII and not what she was hired for (as in adventures with her kids). They did allow her to end the month (June) and both parties agreed to walk away with their hands "clean". Isnt it nice to have friends in high places? LOL
You know I don't usually publish insider information however I'm letting Kylie's comment go through because it was emailed to me first to run it by me (which shows respect for me and the blog and a willingness to own the info, and the decision to post was left completely up to me) and the information comes from a regular who is trusted. Believe it or not that is up to you, but let's not get into a long debate as to its truth.
Oh one other thing I think she really left out of the Today interview was her plans to FIX things 124
My impression is that she didn't actually acknowledge that anything was wrong. She, like the media, focused on her "single" use of a
disgusting word 30 years ago. The actual lawsuit focuses on what a toxic workplace she is ultimately in charge of. That was never
addressed.
njay 129. Wow. That was enlightening (about The Partridge Family).
Regarding the Paula Deen house situation - Financially, I don't see Paula Deen being ruined by this. Unless she was living beyond her means, which it doesn't seem like, I'm sure her personal finances are secure. Any financial settlements from this lawsuit I would assume be absorbed by her business entities (corporations, trusts, etc.)
Her reputation and ability to earn future income may be impacted, but it looks like she's taking steps to try and mitigate that now. I"m not sure if it will make a difference at this point - she's lost a lot of corporate sponsorship. But I don't think she's going to become destitute from this or have to file bankruptcy. I won't say never, but I find it highly unlikely.
And that is, in my opinion, worse. You can lose everything material and you can recover from that. It's harder to regain your reputation and your sense of self.
I find it interesting that Jimmy Carter was asking people to cut her some slack. I respect him and his wife a lot for their work with Habitat for Humanity. He apparently knows Ms. Deen quite well, by his own admission and while he doesn't condone what she said he also knows she's done good work within and for the African American community.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/28/us/georgia-carter-deen/
I give Jimmy Carter's opinion a lot of weight. That's one reason I started to think this was going too far. He knows her personally and I think he has a better sense of what's going on than a bystander.
He could be completely wrong or fooled by her, but I think his opinion is worth taking into account.
Chef one of them is suggestion no comments AT ALL. Not just no comments from the haters.
That is the kiss of death for most blogs. Idiot idea.
Thanks for posting that, Admin and Kylie. I'm not sure why anyone would debate it's veracity, as most of us here predicted that this would be the exact scenario that would get her released from the Stir.
Okay, I guess I just answered my own question. But just because we know Kate's public persona well enough to be able to predict how she'll screw things up for herself doesn't make the information any less true.
I wish her luck with her blog. I will admit, I'm not expecting her to follow through, because she never does, and I give her 3 months tops before her website starts to look like my garden this year - untended and full of weeds. Unlike Kate, my garden is fallow for a reason - I'm letting it rest this summer, not a bad choice considering the heat wave we're experiencing. But come fall, it will be turned over and seeded with cool-season veggies.
Come fall, her website will still be lying neglected and taking up cyberspace.
Oh my word. "WE" -- she's running this thing. Can you imagine Milo telling Kate what to do and what not to do on her blog? This would be much worse than having Kravitz peering (I almost typed peeing) into your windows. If there is a reason for Kate NOT to do blog posts, Milo and the Milo Wannabes would be it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@CarleneMarie_1 @Kateplusmy8 What we don't need is negative/nit-pickin comments tho! Leave the #DirtyShoes at door..but welcome otherwise!
Oh okay thanks Milo so we are welcome to post to Kate's site as long as we don't nitpick. Got it!
My God Kate hasn't even posted anything yet!
Many people have said she is worse than Kate. She is SOOO worse than Kate. She is incorrigible! Kate isn't even tweeting and she's running along like she owns the place. If I were Kate I'd want to slap her silly. STOP.
Is anyone asking Kate why she's still not blogging for The Stir? They are so hell bent on running the blog for her on her website. Didn't they consider the fact that if Kate wanted to blog, she could have stayed with The Stir and done it there, and be paid for it.
It would be interesting for someone to ask her (and the sheeple) just that. Why did she leave The Stir when she had a position there? If she wanted to blog, she should have just stayed there.
Many people have said she is worse than Kate. She is SOOO worse than Kate. She is incorrigible! Kate isn't even tweeting and she's running along like she owns the place. If I were Kate I'd want to slap her silly. STOP.
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She is far more annoying than Kate ever was, even on Kate's most annoying day! Can you imagine living in her household? You'd be ready for the Funny Farm.
I thought she was leaving Twitter. So much for that. I guess there is no cure for Gladys Kravitz Syndrome.
This is a comment on Kate's last Stir post. Not sure whether it's from a fan, or is just snark from a "hater", but I thought the last part was funny.
"I wish Kate all the best in whatever she does in the future. Being friends with her is impossible the haters are as full on as her over the top fans. You ask Kate a question and the haters attack you or the silly bunch of yellow flowers takes over and answers the question and everyone loses interest."
I totally believe the "insider" information. Kate never would have quit on her own. It was a forum for her narcissism. Not only was she getting some sort of publicity and notoriety by being able to claim she was a featured blogger, but she was being paid!
Financially, I don't see Paula Deen being ruined by this. 176
The loss of merchandising and licensing deals alone could end up costing Deen an estimated $7.5 million, Caleb Melby, a wealth reporter
at Forbes, told the News
The restaurant and TV deals she has lost so far will slash another $5 million out of her paycheck, leaving her with an annual take of
about $4.5 million, Melby estimated
Brands who still retain a relationship with PD:
Kohl's
Alice Travel
Springer Mountain Farms
Landies Candies
Epicurean Butter
Tasty Blend Foods
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/deen-lost-12-5-million-experts-article-1.1385469
Why wouldn't Kate have time to moderate comments? She has plenty of time to tweet....
Is anyone asking Kate why she's still not blogging for The Stir?
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Several of her fans have, but Kate didn't reply. Milo said that it was probably because Kate only had a 6 month contract. Kate probably thought that sounded like a good excuse, because why else would she specify the months when she tweeted:
**THANKS every1 @The_Stir for opportunity 2 blog Jan-June 4 u!**
She had one post in January, but the way she worded this tweet, it makes it seems like she did bog for 6 months.
Kate Gosselin-the Master of Deception.
This is a comment on Kate's last Stir post. Not sure whether it's from a fan, or is just snark from a "hater", but I thought the last part was funny.
"I wish Kate all the best in whatever she does in the future. Being friends with her is impossible the haters are as full on as her over the top fans. You ask Kate a question and the haters attack you or the silly bunch of yellow flowers takes over and answers the question and everyone loses interest."
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Oh, Twit -- that is so funny! The "silly bunch of yellow flowers!" Kate needs to sit her down and have a nice little chat with her. Not that it probably would do any good and she'd play the martyr act for awhile, but the only way she's going to knock it off is if it comes from the mouth of her goddess.
For someone who was hired to write about adventures with her kids, there sure weren't very many posts about her with the kids, maybe none. (Not that I think she should have written about the kids. I don't.)
But if the contract was to write about her adventures with the kids, and she's a contract-honorer, where were those posts?
Doesn't seem like she made *any* attempt to honor the contract.
Maybe she was counting on The Stir to plan/pay for the adentures?
Call-in to our local radio station (based out of New York and broadcast on our local station). Subject was the worst run-in with a celebrity. Someone from Target in Reading called in and said Kate wanted a personal shopper. She was told they don't do that. Elvis, the host, asked "Didn't she say...don't you know who I am," and the answer was no, she expected everyone to know who she was.
Instead of learning from this, Kate will just blame the haters. In her mind they caused her to lose yet another job. Nothing to do with her complete inability to honor her contract.
Brands who still retain a relationship with PD:
Alice Travel
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Ha. Figures.
I expect Milo is shooting for the moderator position at Kate's website.
As for the insider info regarding The Stir and Kate, something still seems off as to how it may have gone down. Kate would NEVER thank anyone who didn't "know how to help her". (Unless after two years of no regular employment, she's starting to have an epiphany.)
I think Kate publicly thanked the Stir so that no one would think that she was let go. It was just PR.
Paula Deen also thanked the Food Network when she was let go.
So KK possible got the boot again?
That's kind of funny cause of her mediocre comment.
PatK said... 194
I expect Milo is shooting for the moderator position at Kate's website.
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Can you imagine that scenario? LOL!!
I agree, Twit. Kate would have thanked them because someone probably told her to thank them. It sort of relieves her of any explanation why she left because it sounds like she left on good terms.
Mel-as far as I can recall the only "adventures" Kate had with her kids were:
1. Building a pasta bridge
2. Waking up late
3. Burying a fish
4. Almost running out of gas.
5. Weeding
6. Celebrating the tups birthday
Even then she made those posts all about her, and how she dealt with it.
Brands who still retain a relationship with PD:
Alice Travel
&&&
Ha. Figures.
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Let me guess. Cindy is the go-to person in charge. Who is playing the role of the vetter, previously held by a defective detective?
omewhere In Time said... 118
Nah, they'll just blame it on Jon. It's always Jon's fault.
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And the haters.
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