Apparently TLC is still not all that interested in background checks-shmackground checks. Their newest reality show Mama's Boys of the Bronx looks like harmlesss enough drivel about Italian men who still live with their mothers (Sbadiglio! Us
Zoccolillo was videotaped by the 10 News I-Team in 2007 as he entered a vacant house in Pacific Beach that he was trying to rent out. When he realized he was on camera, he took off running, refusing to answer the producer's questions. He was later arrested and charged with conspiracy and grand theft. He was sentenced to two years in prison.
An anonymous viewer who called in the sighting had this to say: "He bilks people out of money and now he gets a reality show? That's just not right."
Hey, shocked and appalled anonymous viewer, this is not the first con artist TLC has worked with. We could give you an earful about what is just not right about this
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Did Joan live in Hollywood or near there? Maybe folks in that industry kept their mouths shut about what celebrities were like in real life? Or how they treated them? Maybe it was a Hollywood secret back then?
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Studios were very powerful when Joan Crawford was a star, and maintained tight control over what was known, and shown, about their stars. Pre-Internet, and when only a few studios controlled the industry, this was far easier to manage.
So, yes, "Hollywood" kept secrets, lots of them, very well. About affairs (quite scandalous at the time), gay actors, alcoholics, wife-beaters, child-abusers, rapists, and more.
Also, as someone else said above, no kinds of domestic abuse were talked about. It was a source of shame. "Blame the victim" or, at least, "shun the victim", was the usual response.
On the rare occasions when a beaten kid came to the attention of the authorities, they were returned to their parents. (A good, and horrifying, book about a private family dealing with this is "A Private Matter" by Victor Rivas.)
The cultural feeling was that kids were "owned" by parents, and what the parents did was "a private matter", and the authorities kept out of it. Same issue for spouse-beaters.
As it turned out, a lot of people either knew, or suspected, that Christina Crawford and her brother were abused, but no one did anything. In truth, they probably couldn't have changed anything, given the particulars of the situation.
Nobody in the business was about to go up against a powerful and popular star, and the even more powerful studio that backed her.
That's the world Kate thinks she should be living in. She seems to find it completely inexplicable that her talentless, abusing self, doesn't have the protections and career of a star from another era. Welcome to 2012 and the Internet, Katie Dearest.
So Kate says "failure is not an option"? What does she consider "failure? I have a quote for her:
"Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again more intelligently."
(Henry Ford)
Here's an interesting article titled "Is Failure the opposite of success":
http://www.personal-development-inside-out.com/failure.html
If this is something she tells her children-then she already is a failure.
You learn from your failures-you move on and try harder. You learn from your mistakes.
Unfortunately, Kate hasn't learned a thing. So Kate, stop with the phony platitudes-it only makes you look like an idiot.
Totally off topic here, but I just wanted to let everyone know I've got one eye on the blog, and the other eye on The Weather Channel. I'm right in the "Tornado-ggedon" area today - where they are expecting an F4 or F5 tornado(s) to hit later this evening or tonight. Very eery clouds and lots of wind already...
It makes you put things into perspective and realize what is important, that's for sure!
One thing I have never been able to understand, these kids are 1/2 Jons, which can be proved, why isn't 1/2 their income his??? I know I sound like the devils advocate, but something is dreadfully out of balance.
I initially turned in to watch Jon & Kate plus 8 because I thought it would be interesting to see how a family handled life with that many babies. I was horrified at how Kate treated Jon and was hoping for the episode where Jon would stick up for himself (take the stick out!). I could not stand watching Kate. I did some internet searching and came across a blog (which has since closed) and was glad to see I wasn't the only one who felt that way. Then I saw a picture someone had posted showing all the cameras surrounding those children. I'm sorry to say when watching the show in the beginning, I just never thought about the filming of the show. How many cameras, mics, staff were involved until that one photo. How terrribly invasion that must have felt for the children. I had to stop watching.
So for me, it was never about the chemistry between Jon and Kate that made me watch, but I wanted the underdog (Jon) to stand up for himself.
Pamelajo, I think it is possible that Jon was getting paid, too, when K+8 was being produced. However, I think whatever he was getting paid as the children's father went right into Kate's pocket as child support--remember the $22K per month right after the divorce?
Hammers (may I call you that?), you're right about the studio system. But keep in mind that Kate was the beneficiary of a lot of similar protection whilst under contract to TLC. Without them covering her ass, she would have been called what she was a heck of a lot sooner.
Sherri O, stay safe and good luck!
Oh, Pity Party (195), that's HI-LA-RI-OUS!!! (And well worth the 3 "!!!"...) We finally have the explanation about that mysterious gift of gab nobody could figure out before. Of course, it's all about her innane ability to talk from both sides of her mouth. Precious!
Oh yes, as they run in slow motion towards each other, then finally meet and as the music crescendoes, there will be smooching and tears, hugs and carresses galore.
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Great visual but I see them running to each other and chest butting when they meet. Milo starts falling sideways, reaches for Kate yelling Kate...saavvvee mmeeee! Kate's fingers begin to touch Milo's and BAMM..Kate pulls her to her feet. Milo embraces Kate as she is crying franticly and screechs MY HERO!!!! and bats her eyelashes at Kate.
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A few days ago when all the question about her twitter being shut down came about, I looked on her twitter. The was a young mother on there defending kate against haters. Her argument was kate needs to work in the media because she has 1.2 million house to keep up with. Also that she could not earn enough on a nurses salary to raise kids.
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That is just so ridiculous, and Kate and the sheep keep repeating it over and over. Kate NEEDS to work in the media and can't make enough money to take cae of the kids anywhere else. It's been 7 months since the last show. 8 months since TLC announced the show was being cancelled. Everyone in the media has known for all that time that Kate was available and looking for a job. And yet she hasn't gotten that magical job. So, what now? If the call hasn't come by now, honey, it's not going to come. Maybe she NEEDS the media, but the media does not NEED her. According to her, there's nothing else she can do. Nothing else will provide for her and the kids.
"Falure is not an option"...failure, to her, is (oh, the horror!) having to live and work like the rest of us. To her, our lives are even worse than "mediocre", our lives represent failure. And that includes the sheeeple. Do they not get that?
I need to know how zany of these I should order. We need to remain anonymous.
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Ha Ha! So the room will be filled with a dozen or so Groucho Marxes and nobody will notice? Probably not, since Kate and Milo only have eyes for each other (cue: The Lettermen).
At least we can laugh about it!
Sherri O - stay safe and keep us posted!
200 Midas came close to starvation because everything he touched turned to gold. Dionysus took pity on him and reversed his wish at Midas' request.
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How scary. Stay safe and keep us posted!
pamelajo 4 There has been a lot of discussion about PA family court judges favoring mothers.
(and boy, is kate a "mother")
Sherri O: Stay safe! It's frightening when the weather will do its will regardless of what we do.
Wonder why no tweets from a bored Kate? Is she off somewhere again?
Wow, failure is a part of life. It's all about getting back up on the horse. Character is defined by how we comport ourselves in bad times, not good. Jeez, I'd hate to grow up with a parent who would tell me I "copped out" because I failed at something.
We all do.
Bottom line: Kate has no ability to learn from her mistakes, therefore, she never EVER acknowledges them. She's a small person (and not like "OMG everyone tells me how small I am in person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!").
Sherri O and anyone else in tornadogeddon, please stay safe.
Now, THIS, I love! PROOF that Jon is NOT behind on child support. Real, VERIFIED PROOF!!!
happylady58
@ashymama2 @TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 If Jon were in arrears wouldnt he been on this list? Some that only owe $600 on it. http://t.co/hkUe9Sav(preview)
It's impossible to figure Kate out. When she has the kids, its non-stop twitter (when she should be doing non-stop kids), and when the kids are gone and she has plenty of free time, it's twitter silence.
Since she doesn't have an outside job and appears to have household help, she ought to be bored out of her mind while the kids are gone.
Her twittering non-stop on school nights proves she has help in the evenings. There is no way she has time to twit, with dinner, homework, showers, laundry, cleaning. (Unless the help does the homework and gets the kids to bed, and the messy house,laundry and kitchen are left for the morning 'helper'.
Maybe Kate is out for the weekend?
It's going to be an interesting year, with Jon getting the kids more, paying less support. Kate is going to have to start choking up some funds for the kiddos, and with no income coming in it's going to get interesting really quickly! And it's about DANG TIME! Couldn't happen to a more deserving person!
It's impossible to figure Kate out. When she has the kids, its non-stop twitter (when she should be doing non-stop kids), and when the kids are gone and she has plenty of free time, it's twitter silence
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I think it's easy to figure her out. She considers the kids to be her "line of work", like a paid job, and tries to use twitter to promote her "work" like a business (although it doesn't work). So no kids means she's off the job and therefore doesn't have to tweet.
Gift of grab said... 6
Hammers (may I call you that?), you're right about the studio system. But keep in mind that Kate was the beneficiary of a lot of similar protection whilst under contract to TLC. Without them covering her ass, she would have been called what she was a heck of a lot sooner.
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Good point, Gift of grab (great name, btw). That's probably one reason why she still thinks she's invulnerable. And we know it's why she still feels so completely entitled.
The Internet, among other things, has made a huge difference, though. It's a lot harder to hide things now, and, best of all, victims now have voices. We all have learned that just because people pretend that bad things don't happen, they are real just the same.
Please feel free to call me Hammers. Better than Dumb!
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Wow, failure is a part of life. It's all about getting back up on the horse. Character is defined by how we comport ourselves in bad times, not good. Jeez, I'd hate to grow up with a parent who would tell me I "copped out" because I failed at something.
We all do.
Bottom line: Kate has no ability to learn from her mistakes, therefore, she never EVER acknowledges them. She's a small person (and not like "OMG everyone tells me how small I am in person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!").
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I agree with you, Tucker's Mom.
Funny thing is that her all or nothing attitude has not helped her. It might help a person who is actually good at something, but sadly Kate is not really good at anything. Nothing outstanding.
In fact, she's pretty mediocre.
And that's good in itself.
At least, her kids don't care if she never becomes a t.v. personality, or actress, or whatever.
They are going to love her regardless.
Too bad her very high standards are going to choke the life out of her, and everyone around her.
There's still time to change, though.
It's an intolerable way of conducting your life
If there is real proof of that I hope ROL does some research and finds that as well.
@Carol - we are pretty much in the same boat as far as the show and needing some validation of our feelings. I loved watching the kids but KT just got on my nerves and then I found myself saying that was mean, time after time. But as bad as she was on JK8, nothing could compare to K+8. I could not bear to watch which I am kind of glad of, because it allowed me to distance myself from the kids a bit as in I still care but more in the fashion of any kids in a similar situation. That show was unbearable and I am glad TLC finally had the fortitude to shut it down. It was painfully clear that were no boundaries when it came to filming those kids and thank God we were all spared of the next level as all such things are progressive in nature.
So Kate just tweeted she's home watching a movie with her kids. I guess the tweeting party will start momentarily.
Yeah, Hammers, calling you "dumber" just didn't feel right!
So Kate just tweeted she's home watching a movie with her kids. I guess the tweeting party will start momentarily.
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Yep, time to clock back in! Back to the old grind, lol
The "proof" was the link in the tweet I posted above. It is a list of bench warrants for outstanding child support deadbeats dated April 2, 2012. People with a little as $600 in arrears are on that list. Jon is not.
I think that's pretty solid. Though of course the sheeple are claiming that because the Gosselin divorce is sealed, Jon's name would never turn up on such a list.
Uh-huh, yeah, right. WhatEVAH.
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Totally off topic here, but I just wanted to let everyone know I've got one eye on the blog, and the other eye on The Weather Channel. I'm right in the "Tornado-ggedon" area today - where they are expecting an F4 or F5 tornado(s) to hit later this evening or tonight. Very eery clouds and lots of wind already...
It makes you put things into perspective and realize what is important, that's for sure!
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Be safe, Sherri O.
Totally off topic here, but I just wanted to let everyone know I've got one eye on the blog, and the other eye on The Weather Channel. I'm right in the "Tornado-ggedon" area today - where they are expecting an F4 or F5 tornado(s) to hit later this evening or tonight. Very eery clouds and lots of wind already...
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The "other Sherri" - I just checked the Weather Channel before I read your post and wondered if anyone here was in the path of the storms. Be safe and keep us posted.
Sherri O-hoping you and family will be safe. And yes, it does put everything into perspective.
If possible, keep in touch.
Great visual but I see them running to each other and chest butting when they meet.
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Except that Kate's chest will reach Milo five minutes before the rest of her body gets there!
Hi Tamara. There is only one reason that TLC picked Kate to be the "chosen one," and it had nothing to do with her being more marketable than Jon. The things that mattered to TLC were how they could make more money off the kids, and the fact that Kate was completely willing to allow TLC to continue filming the crap out of them. Jon was talking about having reservations about filming. TLC would never have hitched their wagon to Jon when he was talking about stopping filming. Had the circumstances been reversed, with Jon wanting to continue filming and Kate not wanting to, they would have kicked Kate to the curb and treated her the same way they did Jon.
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Kate's "Failure is not an option; it is a cop out" tweet shows her, once again, to be intellectually ignorant and nonsensical. Since when is it a cop-out to fail at something? People fail at things all the time, often despite their best efforts. How people respond to failure is what is important and shows the character of a person. It would have made more sense if she had said "not trying" is a cop out.
That quote as said in Apollo 13 was meant to convey the gravity of the situation they were facing. Had they failed, three people would die. Hardly the same as not being able to go tanning or get a manicure.
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OK. I'm signing off for the weekend to head for Beantown. Have a great next few days, everyone. Be safe Sherri O.
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I guess we all remember our experiences in a different light; I always just thought that's how everyone's family was because my mother always told me that. I know the feeling about wondering how Dad felt. As I got older, I would hear my father shout at her that one her temper was going to seriously injure one of us, and then what would the neighbors think. At the time, I thought my dad was defending us; it wasn't until I got much older that I realized it was a "lazy" defence. He would say things, but never actually stand up to her to stop the abuse; I'm sorry to say that I think he just wanted to keep things peaceful for himself. Also, it may have been intuition on his part that he knew we would get beaten if he took our side. Then she would blame us for the arguement they got into.
Either way, it's many decades ago and with the help of counseling and the wonderful blessing of my church family, I came to terms with it all. My goal was to stop the cycle of abuse that continues on in families, and with the help I mentioned above, I was able to achieve that. I've been blessed by God and I thank Him every day.
Admin said above that if nobody failed, life would be boring.
I suggest that human dynamics would cease. If nobody fails then everyone's ideas are the best and nothing would get done; if nobody fails, there would be only CEO's and nobody in the production end of things; if nobody fails, there would be nothing to work for and we would indeed begin to slide into mediocrity.
Success and failure are in tension with each other, and that tension is crucial for anything to be accomplished.
Some Asian countries have had a tradition of demanding success of their citizens. Children toil long hours at school 6 days a week. They are now realizing that these citizens are missing some basic things, including being able to handle disappointments and sharing the spotlight with others. Human dynamics require we recognize we are not the only person in the room who is worthy of respect.
happylady58
@ashymama2 @TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 If Jon were in arrears wouldnt he been on this list? Some that only owe $600 on it. http://t.co/hkUe9Sav(preview
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That is a national listing of Child Support
FUGITIVES - people who have skipped town to avoid arrest for failure to pay child support.
It has nothing to do with Jon Gosselin.
No, it's specifically for Berks County, PA.
So what does Kate think she's actually winning at? I'm not seeing much at all.
So much for her not sharing so much about her kids on twitter. Wait, kid, let me take a picture of your plate before you eat so I can post it on twitter. What a weirdo.
Kate is showing a picture of the snacks she is giving the kids for movie time. First I don't believe she has the kids there. From something that Jon said on twitter yesterday he has them. He was talking about going to Chuckie Cheese. Second if those really are the plates she gave them the portions are ridiculous. 2 gummie fish a couple of pretzels and less than a handful of popcorn. And she is on bellyache squad. Please! I think she is home by herself into the box of wine and goodies. She tweeted this a half hour ago so I doubt they are even still up. Does she think this plate of crap makes her look like a great mother? Just the bestest and favoritest one ever. By the way as I typed those words the spell check came up. Does she not see that when she is typing?
So what does Kate think she's actually winning at? I'm not seeing much at all. 36
Kinda like Charlie Sheen was "#winning."
Kate seems so proud to be tweeting about giving her kids snacks from a birthday basket someone (probably a fan) sent her.
Keep those gifts coming, folks!
Carazee, I don't see anything on Jon's twitter feed about Chuck E. Cheese, etc. and he usually doesn't talk about the kids.
#41, yes he did mention it yesterday:
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@jongosselin1 @XXXXXX Thanks, Jon & SG;) No problem. Both have a great weekend. Gdaughters 8th BD so Chuck E Cheese here we come, lol
Jon Gosselin @jongosselin1
@XXXXXX at some point this weekend i will probably end up there as well, HELP!!! overlaod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm690Q4st98&feature=plcp&context=C45a3144VDvjVQa1PpcFNJUGMvE1GKVzpbij721UNWyYaaSPHLwz0%3D
Please send any bullying tweets from sheeple to this channel. Jon, you should report them here as well.
Maybe a not fan can send Kate's bullying tweets about Jon here as well.
For any of my misgivings about Jon's future, and the fact that I cannnot and will not let him off the hook about the past, he has 3 very good things going for him. He adores his children, all of them, and none of them obviously more than the others, he is a very hard worker, and in comparison to his children's other parent he will always come off smelling like a rose. :)
And GO CAPS!
Re: kate being the "star" of the show. Hmmm, hell no. I found Kate to be the big negative of the show, the reason I stopped watching. She would never let Jon finish a sentence, the kids play in peace or just let things be. Could not stand her face or her voice or the way she treated everyone. It astounds me that she really thought people found her enjoyable to watch. What did Dallas call her a while ago...the dog pig from hell? Yeah, that's about right. TLC backed her for one reason: she was willing to pimp out those kids despite the protestations of her husband and other friends and family who truly cared for the kids. In fact, every adult on that show treated her kids with more tenderness and respect than she did. Ugh. She is no star. May her implants explode and boobs deflate, dumb bitch.
Since Kate accepts gifts...I been thinking. Why don't we chip in and send her a pyramid of all the major food groups and their serving sizes? At least then she'd maybe see there is more food out their beyond her constant chatter or organic crap, eggs and salads. I got a friend who works in my local post office who knows all the best shipping costs.
Eggscellent? If English was her best subject I sure hate to see what her worst subject was. Lay off the egg humor. Okay, once it might have been funny. But like the person who still thinks the original joke they made was funny after everyone else has gone home, it's worn out Kate put to it rest. For you own sake and for the rest of us who are thoroughly annoyed at your lacking attempt at continued egg-humor.
Oh, I will take this opportunity to advice you on one thing--do us all a favor and don't try to take up a 'career' as a comedian. Besides having eggs thrown at you probably hurts just as much as tomatoes and you're the one who doesn't want to be stuck doing laundry all day. Just think about skipping that venture.
Hey, everyone - thanks for everyone's well wishes...
So far, 88 tornados have touched down in Kansas, Iowa, Oklahoma, etc today...and it's not over yet. It's 10:27 pm CST, and they're saying these can go from now until 6:00 am. I'm terrified to go to bed, because I'm the girl who sleeps through ANYTHING - including tornado sirens. The wind has been blowing like crazy for several hours - it's almost like the midwest is having a hurricane!!! Which is so weird!
And Kate's snack plate?
Puh-leeze. That's pathetic. Give the kids some food. Geesh.
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Oh, I will take this opportunity to advice you on one thing--do us all a favor and don't try to take up a 'career' as a comedian.
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I hope she doesn't get a job flipping patties at McD's either. She's just the type to spit on your burger if she's in a bad mood.
And she's ALWAYS in a bad mood.
So Kate got a Dean and Deluca gift basket. Good for her. Their products are very expensive. I'm sure Kate's sheeple can afford $60 for 12 petit fours? You can get three dozen for about ten dollars at Swiss Colony (and they are good!). But, for Kate, only the best.
Why does she do this? If she's going to say anything, why not just say they are eating snacks from a gift basket? Why mention the company? Wait...I know. She wants MORE, right? Once a grifter, always a grifter.
OMG Sherri O! 88 tornadoes!! Where are you right now? In the basement I hope...please be safe. I am scared sh*tless of tornadoes too.
The weather network said it was going to be a weird year for weather. For the first time in 25 years they're right.
@AuntieAnn...I think I just became a vegetarian.
Well, since Kate likes to spend hours cleaning things she can be the person who cleans the restaurant bathroom or if it's money she can at least give people their change back when she asks if they want fries with that.
AuntieAnn - I am northeast of the tornados right now...I'm in southeast Kansas City area; tornados are expected to hit my area in about 90 minutes.
It's near Wichita right now...we've got our weather radio on, as well as the TV's on. We've set up our safe place in the basement with blankets, shoes, flashlights, etc.
After what happened to Joplin last year, I've been a little jumpy around tornados...especially at night time when you can't see anything. :(
I'll be okay. I'm just praying for everyone directly in the tornados' paths right now, and hoping they don't do too much damage.
Sorry, Admin - for being off-topic. Mother Nature has a way of making even Kate look trivial. :)
Overcoming any amount of child abuse is a feat in its own.
" A child called it" by Dave Pelzer is a book I will never forget. What this man had to go through and overcome is horrific. A true story of torment and survival. A child abused beyond comprehension and yet through all of it....he still wishes for his mother acceptance and love.
Once I started reading this book I couldnt put it down.
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Sherri - Please if you can keep us posted. Yes, Kate's stupidity isn't even a blip on the radar compared to this. Glad you're in the basement. Keep checking in so we know you're alright, ok?
Marie - I'll bet she doesn't even scrub the six toilets she has at the McMansion. The queen of clean wouldn't be caught dead with a toilet brush in her hand. She's 'better than that'.
I'll keep checking in, altho at some point, I'm going to try and get some sleep. I'm a Disaster Services volunteer with the Red Cross (if you remember me from my "old" posting name, "Knows Quality", you might remember that I'm with the Red Cross). I have a feeling I might be getting called at any time to head out and start doing Mass Care in our area - whether that's providing shelter, food, water, or doing damage assessment.
And trust me...I'll be 10x more generous with the food I serve clients than those snack plates that the kids in the Konpound had tonight!
The picture of the snack plate cracked me up, because once again, it was almost as if she was...proud....of that. Really?
"For any of my misgivings about Jon's future, and the fact that I cannnot and will not let him off the hook about the past..."
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Tamara...
1. I really don't think his life depends on your letting him off the hook;
2. Have you ever made a mistake, acknowledged it, only to have someone hold it against you forever and ever, and not be able to move past it? It must be hell to hold a grudge like that; in fact, much worse than for the person who has made every effort to repent.
" A child called it" by Dave Pelzer is a book I will never forget. What this man had to go through and overcome is horrific. A true story of torment and survival.
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Yeah, I thought so too. Remember, this is written from one person's POV. Yes, there was one teacher who publicly said she suspected something was wrong but this guy has written THREE more books. Also, his brother, whom the author said was never abused, is now writing his own account.
Remember, just because it's printed/published, doesn't mean it's always true. Same with Christina Crawford. There's lots of money to be had by celebrity children writing tell alls. David Pelzer was no celebrity's child but he was a groundbreaker for books about child abuse.
Im sure a lot of it was true but I'm just as sure a lot of it was embellished.
Sherri - You're a brave one and good for you for volunteering for the RC.
Yeah that stupid snack plate was only to show off her expensive taste, as if she bought it herself. Like Sleepless said, she's grifting for more. Bitch.
Some sins shouldn't be forgiven. Like filming small children from pretty near infancy to kindergarten. Filming them naked, on the potty, getting showers, diaper changes, etc.
I don't think Jon is forgiven. Hell, he's crazy if he even forgives himself. The forgiveness has to come from his victims. And they aren't old enough to give it yet. JMO
Keep an Open Mind, regardless that kind of abuse can and does happen.
"If she's going to say anything, why not just say they are eating snacks from a gift basket? Why mention the company?"
She wants to brag on the company too. Look at my nonmediocre basket! I wonder if she got it in Vegas. Maybe it's her gift from Skeeve.
Sherri O stay safe
Kelly - Our bully has many names also and answers to all of them if he thinks he's getting a treat! For some reason my husband is calling him Butterbean this week...
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"If she's going to say anything, why not just say they are eating snacks from a gift basket? Why mention the company?"
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In hopes to get free stuff or more free stuff.
Keep an open mind...
I did think that something this bad couldnt be true.I havent found anything thing that tells me it isnt. David has given the names of police officers and a couple of teachers and names the foster families he went in to. He did write other books after the 1st one. The 2nd was about what happened to him after he was finally saved.
And you are right...dont believe everything that is published/printed.But like I said I haven't seen anything to make me doubt his story.
I would love to have facts proving this never happened...no child should ever have to go though what he claims he did.
There are always 3 sides to a story...his...hers...and the truth. And we'll never know the whole truth about anything we personally never were involved in.
Starz22
Why would anybody doubt David's claims?
Also, I think Kate makes those pathetic plates for us. She knows some will discuss it in detail and she thrives on any chatter about her.
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Remember, just because it's printed/published, doesn't mean it's always true. Same with Christina Crawford. There's lots of money to be had by celebrity children writing tell alls. David Pelzer was no celebrity's child but he was a groundbreaker for books about child abuse.
Im sure a lot of it was true but I'm just as sure a lot of it was embellished.
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That's an insult to victims of child abuse.
I have hestitated to tell a very personal story about child abuse but believe me it does happen. I'm going to tell it without embellishment of any kind one of these days and it ain't pretty. I will say right now that the adult victim still has the scars, both mentally and physically.
Tamara: For any of my misgivings about Jon's future, and the fact that I cannnot and will not let him off the hook about the past, he has 3 very good things going for him.
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Kate can't let him off the hook either. Jon, however, has moved on. Good for him.
All of you in the path of these storms, my heart goes out to you. We don't get tornadoes in this neck of the woods very often, so I can't imagine what it must be like to go through that. Take care.
Seems like somebody is already defending the Gosselin children's future tell-all books.
an insult to victims of child abuse.
I have hestitated to tell a very personal story about child abuse but believe me it does happen. I'm going to tell it without embellishment of any kind one of these
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No one said the world was fair. Sometimes the truth hurts. With all these trashy reality shows, one has to keep an open mind. Money and/or attention are key rewards for this kind of in-your-face reality.
Just a suggestion, but I wouldn't tell your tale here. How about at a therapist's office? The internet is a big, ugly place.
Just a suggestion, but I wouldn't tell your tale here. How about at a therapist's office? The internet is a big, ugly place.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but you're making assumptions "open mind". ha.
And I'm quite aware of the dangers of the big old ugly internet.
Wow!!A little off subject and then maybe not. Talk about not being safe due to background checks. I just received a letter from the bureau of health in Utan informing me that hackers have breached the security of medical records, i.e. ssn, names, docs. patient files. SO MUCH FOR SAFETY1
An ongoing problem that happened to Christina Crawford and continues to happen is people scrutinizing their stories with an overly skeptical mind. She got the brunt of it, society does better now. When a kid says Mommy hurts me, we don't always jump to are you SURE, like in the old days. Instead, we say, tell me more. Thank goodness.
Maybe if WE kept an open mind to their stories kids would be less likely to try to hide it.
Great point!
All abuse against children NEEDS to be talked about.
For victims and potential victims
Not talking about it or making the abuser accountable is what creates the cycle of more victims.
I was curious since i've never heard that book is fake before and the only thing I could come up with is his brother saying that some things never happened and the stabbing incident didn't draw blood (but he admits he was stil stabbed). He also says his brother was a bad kid getting in trouble. Number one, maybe he was a bad kid BECAUSE of the abuse. Number two, so what if he's the worst kid ever, no kid deserves ABUSE to try to deal with their problems. Not buying it. What you have to understand is that one child's experience with a parent is not necessarily the same as their siblings. The Crawford younger kids say it didn't happen yet there are numerous witnesses to Chris and Christina's abuse. That's because the "twins" were golden children, sent to boarding school, and Joan was older and not in the heyday of her alcohol problems. So the fact that a sibling says oh that never happened could be true--to THEM it never happened for various reasons.
Look at the Gosselin kids. Does anyone honestly think Joel's experience growing up will be the same as Hannah's?
That's not enough for me to discount the story. Stabbing a child is stabbing a child whether there is blood or not.
Look at the Gosselin kids. Does anyone honestly think Joel's experience growing up will be the same as Hannah's?
That's not enough for me to discount the story. Stabbing a child is stabbing a child whether there is blood or not.
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Exactly...it's all about perception. Two people will see the same movie and both can have a completely different take on it. One likes it and the other hates it, but it doesn't mean there was no movie. A third might even accuse the other two of not seeing the movie at all.
As for Christina's story, there will always be those people who say it didn't happen because they choose not to believe it for various reasons. Maybe it's too much for them to fathom or maybe they're abusers themselves and don't think what they do/have done is abuse.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049789/Sybil-Best-selling-child-abuse-split-personality-author-exposed-FAKE.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-481243/How-NSPCC-faked-child-abuse-stories-generate-cash.html
and my personal fave:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/28/magazine/28PELZER.html
Good informative reading.
I read the links, thanks Open Mind. There certainly are people out there willing to write an embellished story about just about anything to make a buck. That's nothing new and it's too bad about those who do that. It doesn't mean child abuse doesn't exist. I get your point though.
RE: The plates for the invisible kids - what was that other pile of crud on that plate with two slabs of some type of inedible looking material on top. I beg to differ on the portions that was way more than she would have let the kids have from her personal hoard of fine foods. It would have made them sick. That was her "sample" plate. She just wanted to get the name out there.
She is PLAYING US. Do not discuss the photo. Did you even read what she posted with the picture?
"An example of a snack plate. . . So you can all see, lol!"
She reads here about us commenting on the food portions. She loves this.
I guess I'm not "there" yet regarding Kate making up the kids/movie/snack night. This is her tweet:
An example snack plate...Everyone went down the line and chose what they wanted!Belly ache squad (me!) on standby,lol! http://t.co/eDD7ueSU about 12 hours ago
Is the consensus that she made up the whole evening and is actually alone?
Don't know if she is alone or not. Makes it sound with her GM tweet that something was planned for today but claims she is sick and they are now staying home. Very convenient if she is alone. If she is indeed sick, and the kids are there, I presume Cara and Mady will have babysitter duty (what else is new?).
Awww, her dozen über fan twitter followers will be so upset she isn't feeling well. Probably hung over.
Tweet-le: Knowing that Jon is now openly on Twitter, why would she risk him blowing up a fiction like that? I don't think she would so blatantly lie about the kids being home last night. What would it gain her?
Yes. I thought it was Jon's weekend? That plate was obviously mad up by Kate- and not paper- she would not use her plastic prison trays for snacks in case they would 'fill' the dishwasher...No kid would choose just two jelly fish (or whatever)
I think it's also damage control about her doling out the portions, in her remark that the kids went down the line and selected what they wanted. And why does she always think they will get stomach aches? Because they are so hungry a bit of extra will bother their shrunken tummies? Normal kids have snacks and don't get sick.
Gift of grab, I agree. Seems foolish.
Regarding Pelzer's books, the NYT article, and so on, several things are worth noting.
1) Pelzer may have been a hyper-active, unrewarding, and unpleasant kid, but, if he was, that doesn't justify even the most minimal abuse.
2) He may have turned into the same kind of adult (he certainly comes off poorly in the NYT article), but abuse isn't exactly purifying, so, if he was abused, this shouldn't come as much of a shock
3) He may have realized that his relatively unsophisticated readers were more interested in his gory description of abuse than in a lot of the rest of his books, which led to prolonged descriptions in later books where the mere description of an event might have been sufficient.
3) A younger brother may very well have no idea of the majority of whatever abuse occurred
There are verifiable events in Pelzer's early books (the police, social workers, etc.). Reading skeptically is always a good exercise, though.
However, it is worth nothing that people prefer their victims to be wholesome, modest, and yearning. Pelzer seems, at this point, to be none of these things. He comes across as an unpleasant, not-very-bright, exaggerator and sometime liar.
Is that who he always was, even as a child? Or is this who he became after abuse by an overwhelmed, possibly sadistic, parent?
Remember those horrible muscular dystrophy marathons when Jerry Lewis used to drag out the most adorable, pathetic kids he could find? Once there were the "deserving poor", then there were "deserving victims".
Victims aren't always pretty, much less humble and adorable. That doesn't mean that they weren't abused. It may mean quite the opposite.
Being abused doesn't make people holy. It just makes them damaged.
Victims aren't always pretty, much less humble and adorable. That doesn't mean that they weren't abused. It may mean quite the opposite.
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Amen.
Wow, she must be burning up with fever, the delusions are in control:
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@Kateplusmy8 Do you have a new show? If so, what network, when does it air? Please, do tell.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@XXXXXX I would tell you if I did... Not yet.... But....... Not quite yet :)... Just never know...;)
To the poster who said Jon is crazy if he forgives himself, here's a quote from Jon's twitter. Doesn't sound like he's forgiven himself.
"I would like to apologize to my friends, family, and especially my children for not taking a stand earlier in my life and not questioning my decisions to have our lives documented and displayed," he wrote. "I will have to answer to my children for the rest of my life. I will have to live with this guilt the rest of my life. I am truly sorry!"
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To the poster who said Jon is crazy if he forgives himself, here's a quote from Jon's twitter. Doesn't sound like he's forgiven himself.
"I would like to apologize to my friends, family, and especially my children for not taking a stand earlier in my life and not questioning my decisions to have our lives documented and displayed," he wrote. "I will have to answer to my children for the rest of my life. I will have to live with this guilt the rest of my life. I am truly sorry!"
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Do you have a link for that? Thanks
Sorry, I see you said it's from Twitter. Just kind of long for a tweet.
Kate is such a copycat. I swear she doesn't have an original thought in her head.
Here's a quote from Jon from Sept 2010. Notice two phrases in there that Kate's been using lately. I bolded them. You can tell that the phrase 'my kids know the truth' must have really eaten at her.
"As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain. I have learned from the past that it's a waste of my time and energy. I am 'rising above', and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what's important."
I reckon her "teasing" tweet about being on TV again is a bid for another Radar story to start her week. She really is shameless, isn't she?
Given her negative profile among the vast majority of those who even know who she is, I find it hard to believe that anyone in TV would hire her to do anything. And if it DID happen (God forbid), I think she would be surprised to find herself on a pretty low level in terms of the paycheck. She's not going to start anywhere near the level she left off.
She has no prospects of a new show. Once again she skirts the truth in her twitter response. Of course it's easy to say "not quite yet" making it sound like she's on the verge of a deal. I am always amazed that her one, true talent is careful wording in her lies.
I bet some intern at ROL has the responsibility of following Kate's tweets. This is all she has to keep her name out there. Probably, regretfully, someone at ROL is probably monitoring this site too. Goes to show they do nothing more than put out rumors.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
Do you have a link for that? Thanks
Sorry. I did say Twitter. Which isn't correct. I'll get you a better answer later. On my way to church. Unlike someone else we know. :)
http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978511469
The more she lies and dances around the truth, the more I am convinced she duped Jon and her gyno. If she is anything, she is a world class liar. I hope Jon sets the record straight in his book. I never even heard of a narcissist until this woman.
Wouldn't it be great if she answered THIS question?
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@Kateplusmy8 @XXXXX What about Twist of Kate? I tweeted you earlier asking when it's going to be on? Do you know? Thanks!
Mel, thanks!!
I was abused as child. My mother was single, bitter, and a bully. She physically abused me on many occasions from the time I was small until my early teens. Her psychological went on much longer and would continue today if I allowed it. I no longer have contact with this person.
The physical abuse included instances of being punched, kicked, thrown around a room, hit with anything she could grab at the moment, my hair was pulled until I had sore swollen lumps all over my head...it was bad.
I saw her beat my brother many times. She would be outraged if he wet the bed and she made him pay for that. The poor kid was forced to wash his sheets on a scrub board and then hang them on the line before school. He was 7. (It brought me pain to type that.)
I share this because I want to make a point. My brother and I were both abused and neither of us have contact with our 'mother' any longer. Even so, we both have completely different memories of what happened. We don't argue about it but when we have discussed it I am really surprised at how different things looked from his perspective. I have vivid memories of the abuse that I endured. He has his own memories. I remember some of the good times (even abused kids have moments of happiness) and he doesn't remember them at all.
Memory is a tricky thing.
What goes through someone's mind when they write and post something like this? And why does milo endlessly remind Kate about her plastic surgery?
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@Kateplusmy8 I implore the lil nurses & doctors in ur house 2treat Mommy as a child 2day! ake care of her & give her a "tummy tuckin"! :)
I can assure you that in the average family of four kids who are being abused, there will almost always be at least one or two who say it didn't happen, and two or three with very different stories about it.
The way the mind remembers is a fascinating thing. The psychology involved with loyalty to parents even despite abuse is a fascinating thing.
The fact that one sibling says it didn't happen, or it didn't happen the way another sibling said, doesn't necessarily mean that either one is a liar. It is no proof EITHER WAY just because one sibling is saying that's a lie.
Look at studies of people who witness crimes. One person will describe a green jacket, another a blue jacket, another no jacket at all. No one is lying, memory is just a complicated thing.
every once in awhile when my kids aren't home, yes :) and I STILL wake up at 7am :( force of habit!
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uhh.....She tweets all the time her wakeup time is 530..does she just make up this crap at will?
She also tweeted she isn't feeling well. I know when I am sick, I always feel like tweeting. (not).
I guess she had to spout off some reason for not going to church today.
I don't blame Kate at all for wanting a tummy tuck and she was up front about that. I do think she showed her 'jowls of a dog' with the hope of a grift, or contributions toward...but then when she got that, she wanted the boob job. When she got that (those?) she did not own up to it. Then the lipo, face work, bleach & weave...she is never content. Milo I think sees this. She is shrewd although misguided.
As for a show, I wonder if there is a project in the works she hope Maddy will get?
Didn't she watch her fan on Dr. Oz? You're supposed to wake up at the same time every day. It's not college anymore.
Regarding the snacks on the prison plates and the kids going down the line to get them. I think she let them pick from a bag holding 8 pretzels, another with 24 gummies etc. She may have let them choose this time, but she still controls the amounts I'm sure.
For Easter she embellished them with enough candy to last for months, but that was to show us how much effort she puts in to the holidays. I suppose all THAT
candy is already in the freezer getting firmed up for Halloween.
With every picture she posts, I feel the joy being sucked out of the moment.
I love how when a tweeter calls her out on not having the kids she immediately blocks them. Regarding the snack plates. She didn't say the kids made their won plates. She said they went down the line and chose what they wanted. So from the looks of them it was definitely mommy that portioned them out. I still don't think she had the kids this weekend. She is probably sick from eating all 8 snack plates from the invisible 8. Someone had to clean them up. Also her reason for no church if anyone asks.
I love how when a tweeter calls her out on not having the kids she immediately blocks them
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Interesting. Why would this bother her unless she didn't have the kids?
Actually can I just add another thing to memory and remembering bad things. When you have a group of criminals and all three are telling exactly the same story, you would assume they're telling the truth, right? Hardly. When they all have exactly the same story more likely they all got together to get the "story" right.
When experts interview criminals what they are looking for is actually small inconsistencies in each story. Because there SHOULD be if everyone is telling the truth. The exact same story is actually suspicious, as counter-intuitive as that sounds.
Bringing that over to the Bible, that's actually one defense of the truth of the Bible, that the reason the New Testament is not perfectly consistent is because a variety of people are all remembering the same events somewhat differently, but didn't get together to make sure all their stories are the same.
Exactly Admin. I think she is trying to make it back on ROL with trying to make it look like Jon is not taking the kids on his weekends.
Also does anyone ever get the feeling that Milo is not as she appears? I really think she pretends to gush over her and says things about her being such a good mother but she is really being sarcastic and Kate doesn't get it. No one could be that big of a kiss a##. When I read them I hear sarcasm. JMHO.
Read the book by David's brother. His mother just transfered her hate/sickness onto another son. If the Gosselin boys were moved out of Khate's house she would just transfer her hate to the girls.
Re: kids' candy. actually those Easter baskets didn't include all that much candy- there was an awful lot of the fake grass stuff, especially in the boys' little baskets. And if the plastic eggs contained a penny or one jellybean, not many sweets at all. I was surprised at the Peeps- product placement? Is a Peeps commercial in mind?
I do think that one prison plate was Kate's and no kids in sight. The stuff on it was more adult pickings IMO.
I'm trying to remember but it sure seems like Kate has been acting like she has the kids every weekend for awhile now.
Unless maybe the change in custody was more of a weekday thing, who knows. Maybe Jon has them during the week now and she's the weekend parent. That would be interesting.
People see things through their own filter. I had a great grandma that I adored and I even named my daughter after her. She was not very 'warm'- she was strict, stern, and didn't take any nonsense. She was quick with wit, read her bible daily and did her best to follow it, she walked the talk and didn't hesitate to call out anyone else who didn't.
I loved that she was authentic. You always knew where she stood on things and she didn't pull any punches. She was tough but I trusted her judgment.
After she died I learned that some family members had a much different opinion. A few thought she was rude, cold, and just plain nasty. I was SHOCKED to learn that everyone didn't see her the way I did.
People see things from their own perspective. What some might call abuse others may see totally differently.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I implore the lil nurses & doctors in ur house 2treat Mommy as a child 2day! ake care of her & give her a "tummy tuckin"! :)
That shouldn't be too difficult since Kate's stuck at age 12!
"Interesting. Why would this bother her unless she didn't have the kids? "
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Because she called Kate a liar. Kate doesn't deal well with that, for obvious reasons.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@XXXXXX I would tell you if I did... Not yet.... But....... Not quite yet :)... Just never know...;)
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Oh, please! How many times have we seen some version of this same tweet over the past 8 months? Only difference is, there's no "wink, wink" in this one. She's no closer now than she was last August. Have any of her followers ever asked her what all the winks were for? It's obvious now that there was no show in the works, but she sure wanted everyone to believe that. She's just sadistic in the way she toys with them, and they just keep coming back for more.
It's Over, that's a good example. I'm thinking now of my mentor who has been supportive of me and so helpful in her advice for five years now. But I've seen her working in action and a lot of people REALLY don't like her, mostly for her tell-it-like-it is attitude. I'm talking all-out feuds.
For me, her tell it like it is has been a godsend to me and appropriate for what my needs are and I just adore her. For others, they can't stand the way she is.
Just like how people have friends and enemies and it doesn't necessarily prove anything one way or the other. Now, when 90% of people are your enemies you might wonder if it's you, that's different!
I am always open to other sides of the story but just because some people say that story isn't true or that didn't happen, doesn't make it so. All it proves is that some people don't believe it.
Heaven help those kids if mom is the weekend parent. I can't imagine having to put up with her every weekend after a long week at school. She would have so many chores for them to do. They will be scrubbing out that chicken coop until it shines. I hope that wasn't the change in custody. I hope it just means Jon also can have them more during the week on top of his weekends.
Yes, definitely a pecking order in the G house. Even among the girls she has one she does not treat as well as the others. I remember name calling of that child.And if one twin is not cooperating with the new 'talented triple threat' scheme, she may go down a notch as well. I agree if the boys are not there, that's what would happen. I also agree those kids will all have different memories. I hope there is no rift among the kids as adults because of it.
every once in awhile when my kids aren't home, yes :) and I STILL wake up at 7am :( force of habit!
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uhh.....She tweets all the time her wakeup time is 530..does she just make up this crap at will?
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I think what she is saying is that ON WEEKENDS when the kids are home, they all wake up at 7 a.m., but when they aren't home, she still wakes up at the same time. She's not referring to school mornings when she wakes up at 5:30.
I guess Fired Up For Kate reads here because he/she asked what's all this nonsense about the kids not being with you. And Kate didn't really reply.
Anyone think Jon may just have the boys this weekend?...Kate just has the girls?
TLC stinks, the tweeters have been talking about Kate not having the kids, too.
I think what she is saying is that ON WEEKENDS when the kids are home, they all wake up at 7 a.m., but when they aren't home, she still wakes up at the same time. She's not referring to school mornings when she wakes up at 5:30.
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Maybe so! I get up at the same time every day, that's my 'force of habit'. lol I couldn't sleep late if I wanted to!
As far as her kiddos getting up early, I doubt it.
..just looked at her prison plate. That's really sad, to have that much money and make your kids eat off such a depressing looking plate. That house is all about making her life as easy as possible, isn't it. Geesh
aggiemom: those prison plates are the GOOD plates for the kids! They usually just rate paper- or the heart plates once a year!
When she announced "snack & movie night" last evening, she made a comment about "8 helpers." So whether it's true or not, she's at least claiming that all 8 are home with her, not that the boys (or anyone) are elsewhere.
How do you know she didn't mean her eight personalities?
Hahahaha, Admin. Good one.
Ya know, there is something that doesn't ring true about the snack plate for movie night. At what point has Kate ever let her kids make their own plate, let alone take a pic. of only one plate not eight. She's got 8 don'tcha know. Not only that, to prove my point...mainly for any sheeple reading here, last movie night she took a pic. of all eight on the floor with their snaks. She can't resist to SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, with only the facts.
Well Kate, it's public. The guantlet has been thrown down, prove the facts. Sue buddy, maybe this would be a good article to make it public. Challenge her "to set the record straight". Especially after this stupid tweet from Milo.
So I am trying to figure out when this whole question about if all 8 were home came up? Did we start the rumor? Did someone state for a fact that it's Jon's weekend? There was a comment from poster Carezee that Jon's tweeter mentioned something about taking the kids to Chuck e Cheese this weekend? So, did Jon indicate that he had the kids?
I guess Fired Up For Kate reads here because he/she asked what's all this nonsense about the kids not being with you. And Kate didn't really reply.
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Weren't the tweeties discussing it as well? It's Milo's home turf.
Kids or no kids, the fool is back to twattering today. Maybe she was too busy yesterday setting the scene for her " example snack plate". Umm Kate, think the word is sample. What a pathetic life if this is all she has to do all weekend, and twitter about it. Me, I have to pack for a trip we planned and PAID for, and no, my bodyguard is not coming with me to the airport.
When one of Jon's tweeters mentioned that they were going to Chuck E Cheese this weekend Jon said that he would probably be there sometime over the weekend. This leads me to believe that he has the kids.
goodness, they'll eat PIZZA at Chuck E Cheese most likely!
Thanks, Carezee. Makes sense. Why would any adult go to Chuck E Cheese without kids. Hopefully Jon will make some tweeter comment about having fun with his kids this weekend :)This would be the ultimate FU to Kate...caught in a scarecrow hair lie.
So she just posted the twins are basically babysitting post lunch. Says they checked in on her. She must be laying in bed twatting away. Let's see how this all evolves.
weird. Kate just tweeted:
"I am in awe,again,at my 11 yr olds!Just checked on me&gave the 'playing plan' post lunch they've all decided on!All under control! Amazing!"
So are the 8 home with the twins in charge (of course),or at Chuck E. Cheese with Jon???
Btw, as a mom, even when I was sick, I would till look after my kids when they were younger myself...don't get her.
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I hope there is no rift among the kids as adults because of it.
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There will be. Kate's behavior has assured the destruction of her family. No way will all those children survive as a cohesive sibling unit.
yes, she sounds pretty perky for someone who has to 'lay on bedrest' with an upset tummy , oy.
The 'example' (lol Westcoaster ) snack plate reminds me of the 'example Easter place setting' for the future hubby- maybe this was also his snack tray?
Okay something is definitely not right. If Kate needs help with the kids because one adult can not take care of them by themselves. How is it the twins can watch the little ones while she is sick (hungover) in bed? I still don't think she has any of them.
Why does everything have to be so controlled with her? When my kids were small I'd toss some pretzels in a bowl or give them some string cheese for a snack. No big production- just a snack. Does she really think a complicated array makes her some kind of better mother?
Why am I even asking this....
Kate is sick, in the mental sense. I haven't read through all the comments, but did she say "Failure isn't an option"? What else can these kids do but fail in her eyes? She's set them up to be elitist in mentality and now that the show's literally over, they can only be knocked down several notches. She makes no sense. And what an idiotic thing to say to begin with, the only way you truly fail is when you don't pull yourself back up again. Oh, and Kate - you've already failed Princess and failed BIG TIME because you're a lousy mother. IMO there's little worse you could fail at in life than that and you can bet the kid's money (assuming there will be any left) there will be several, if not eight, tell-all's. She's such a Dumbass. It would be funny if kids weren't involved.
Admin I agree with the satisfaction of earning my way. I was amidst mass chaos last night, feeling like a train ran over me by the time I finished the charting and was out of there at midnight, but I felt good about myself on the way home. I'm excited to be going back again to do it all over again today. Idleness is one of the worst defeaters of self esteem. Too bad Khate's setting that example for her kids. If you have the energy to run x amount of hours per day, you can work a couple of shifts a week Kate. You have no excuses.
NJGal51 I hear ya with the treats. I also call him Benedict Arnold when he sucks up to the bank teller for biscuits, it's humiliating really ;)
Titanic 3D was AWESOME! And I honestly didn't think I'd say that. August Wennerstrom (3rd class passenger who survived) is buried in the same cemetery as most of my family. I've taken pics of his grave for a few of the Titanic sites.
Has Khate's ocean liner been renamed "Ship Of Fools" yet?
With all the twatting I believe she must have the kids. Jon said he might end up at Chuck E Cheese this weekend. Doesn't necessarily mean his kids. Maybe a friend or family event or Bday. Or a few hours with some or all kids.
I really think he had the kids Friday night and Saturday during the day and she got them last night and today.
I think they're splitting the weekends now.
Whether he has more custodial time during the week, too, I don't know, but I certainly hope so. The more time the kids can spend away from their toxic mother, the better. It looks like the two older girls are definitely babysitters. (Only in Kate's world would there need to be a "playing plan.")
How did everyone in Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa and Nebraska fare last night? I was worried.
I believe the new name is "Voyage of the Damned."
Kate's Going Down said...
You may be right about them splitting weekends. Jon posted on his twitter and he never twitters when he has the kids. Unlike Kate who doesn't twitter while they are away but is twittering the whole time they are around. I still don't understand how the twins can take care of the kids but Kate needs help. And if she says there are 2 of the girls compared to one of her, they are part of the 8 she can't handle herself.
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@XXXXXX I would tell you if I did... Not yet.... But....... Not quite yet :)... Just never know...;)
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Oh, please! How many times have we seen some version of this same tweet over the past 8 months? Only difference is, there's no "wink, wink" in this one.
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Lala, she snuck one by ya. Totally her "moto". She is so predictable. Take a look at that little insignia at the end of "just never know". It's winking.
dumber than hammers~
Thank you so much. Your comment about Hollywood back in the day was great.
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My interpretation was that Jon was going to Chuck E Cheese because it was the birthday of his god-daughters. He had tweeted "Gdaughter", which I assumed meant god-daughter...when referring to the birthday.
I'm trying to remember if Kate has ever mentioned being "sick" when the kids are in school, or if it's always been on the weekends. It would be a bummer for her to be sick during her "me" time, no?
Does she understand most single mothers when they are sick don't have the luxury of staying in bed but just have to get up and go about the day anyway even though they feel lousy? She has to be alienating all the real single moms big time.
Never mind....I read the tweets backwards. I have a lot of difficulty navigating twitter. It was someone else who was going there for Gdaughter's 8th b'day.....and then Jon tweeted he might be there during the week-end himself.
I get quite confused with the the @ on twitter and can't figure out who's talking to who. Sorry about that.
Sadly, it looks like the twins are still on the cruise:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
I am in awe,again,at my 11 yr olds!Just checked on me&gave the 'playing plan' post lunch they've all decided on!All under control! Amazing!
43m CJWhodunit @CJWhodunit
@Kateplusmy8 Sweet young ladies!My Tweenie is thoughtful like that2!She's looking forward 2 saying hi to them on cruise in August! :-)
20m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@CJWhodunit can't wait!!! They are always up for making new friends! Will be fun!!! Yay!
Gift of grab said... 42
#41, yes he did mention it yesterday:
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@jongosselin1 @XXXXXX Thanks, Jon & SG;) No problem. Both have a great weekend. Gdaughters 8th BD so Chuck E Cheese here we come, lol
Jon Gosselin @jongosselin1
@XXXXXX at some point this weekend i will probably end up there as well, HELP!!! overlaod
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I got to thinking. Sorry if someone posted this already. I haven't read all the posts yet and I start from bottom up.
Anyway, This tweet from Jon kind of stumps me. He states that he is celebrating the G-DAUGHTERS birthday and taking them to Chucky Cheese. What about the boys? I think that he has the girls and is celebrating a girly bday for them. Then he will probably take the boys and celebrate with a boy bday. That sounds like it would be a good idea. That way their bday will be more personal and special to them. I hope that is what it is.
If he is doing that, then Kate once again by omission is telling a half truth. Yes there was a movie night. Yes they had a snack plate, and that would explain why the pic. had one plate and not eight.
Sue Buddy, forget my idea of publishing a challenge. Once again, she wins, NOT!! NEVER!! EVER!!
A) "Tweenie" is the dumbest word ever. And it rhymes with weenie. Stupid CJ, ug.
B) If two 11 year olds can handle 6 almost-eight year olds, then I would certainly think one adult PLUS those two 11 year olds could easily handle 6 almost-eight year olds. Not that I agree, at all, with putting that much constant responsibility on the older girls, but it seems she does. So her argument of not being able to handle all 8 alone is grade-A bullshit. They aren't *toddlers* for crying out loud. Elementary teachers handle as many as 20-22 kids almost all day, every day. She's just f____ lazy, we all know that.
njay, that was someone else saying they were celebrating their granddaughter or goddaughter's birthday at Chuck E. Cheese, then Jon responded.
And sadly, guess she still gets to twatter about the kids. Who are, after all, not only going on this cruise from hell, but are caring for mom, littles and house while she lies in bed and twitters. How sick can she be?
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I am in awe,again,at my 11 yr olds!Just checked on me&gave the 'playing plan' post lunch they've all decided on!All under control! Amazing! 59 minutes ago
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I am embarrassed for her, truly.
njay said... 155
If you read that again you will see that comment was made by a grandparent. His answers was... at some point this weekend i will probably end up there as well, HELP!!! overlaod
You're welcome, dee3. Glad you liked the Hollywood comment!
Westcoaster,
I found a great link about parentification, which is what she's doing to the twins.
Parentification - Parentification is a form of role reversal, in which a child of a personality-disordered parent is inappropriately given the role of meeting the emotional or physical needs of the parent or of the other children.
Description:
Some parents who suffer from personality disorders actively or passively transfer the responsibility for meeting their own emotional and physical needs or the emotional and physical needs of other family members to one of their children.
Parentified children may have an expectation placed on them to sacrifice play, friendships with peers, sleep or schooling.
Here's the link for what I just posted. Great information:
http://outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/Parentification.html
And this is the most descriptive biography of Kate I've ever read:
http://outofthefog.net/Disorders/NPD.html
Gift of grab said... 103
What goes through someone's mind when they write and post something like this? And why does milo endlessly remind Kate about her plastic surgery?
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@Kateplusmy8 I implore the lil nurses & doctors in ur house 2treat Mommy as a child 2day! ake care of her & give her a "tummy tuckin"! :)
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I don't think Milo's doing a plastic surgery reminder. A few months back, Milo (trying desperately to get Kate's attention before bedtime), said that when she was little she called being tucked in at night "a tummy tuckin."
Since then, she periodically mentions it to Kate. For Milo, this is like an inside joke with her buddy Kate. Creepy, yes.
I do think Milo is as big a kiss-up as she sounds. She feels she's mothering and protecting Kate, which in fact is enabling her. Milo, the co-dependent enabler, is a perfect personality match for the narcissist Kate. She loves making excuses for her idol.
"I'm wonderful!" says the narcissist.
"Oh, yes, you are! You're marvelous, all the time, the best! No one else understands you, but I do!" replies the enabler. Blech. (Just my 2 cents as someone who doesn't even play a psychologist on TV, LOL.)
Sunday bedrest = no Church.
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Jon is NOT tweeting about his GDaughter. The person who tweeted him was.She said she's taking her granddaughter to CC for b/day. This was tweeted on the 13th, Friday.
Virginia Penn Mom: what Kate does with Milo is called proxy recruitment. Actually her handful of Twitter sheep seem to fall into this category:
Proxy Recruitment is a way of controlling or abusing another person by manipulating other people into unwittingly backing you up, speaking for you or "doing your dirty work" for you.
Lord knows I doubt anyone is left in her real life to do this in person.
I can see Kate staying in bed all day getting waited on by her kids even if she has a hint of a sniffle. I doubt she's even sick (well, physically anyway).
She HATES being the mother she wanted everyone to think she was. Things aren't as rosey as they were when she had nannies coming out of her ass, a cleaning service and a catering service complete with wine and fresh cut flowers. I hope she laments about the past everyday for the rest of her life.
And just what the hell is a playing plan?
@CJWhodunit can't wait!!! They are always up for making new friends! Will be fun!!! Yay! about an hour ago
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So, Kate can't wait until the twins can meet the person who trashes their father?
When Jon's Twitter first went public, this CJ person relentlessly slammed and pestered him.
Unreal.
I understand parentification, but one's parent does not need to have a personality disorder. Mine was widowed early, and for my teen years and for much of my adulthood I played parent to my mother in many ways. My unfulfilled wish was for a stepfather. Did not happen; my children do not parent me.
Kate in bed today is just another version of Kate on her white plastc chair. IMHO if you are well enough to twatter, you are well enough to get out of bed and be a parent. Save the sick crap for their school day tomorrow. Hope Milo is sending chicen soup. Or, hello Dean and deLuca? Anyone?
what was that saying most of us kids got growing up when sick? Oh yeah...if you're too sick to go to school then you're too sick to watch television. Or in Kate's case, Twitter. And just like my mother I am pretty sure Kate's the type to send her overly sick kid to school only to get the phone call come get one or two of them but she's so sick she can't be bothered to get out of bed?
So Kate's in bed but her kids get the laundry room floor? Talk about cold. The kids are happy to wait on her but she freaks out that she has to wash sheets? Washing sheets is not that big of a deal. Not like she had to hand wash them.
The older these kids get the more work they will have to do.
Maybe Kate's just sick from eating too much junk food even if it's gourmet, just food is still junk food no matter what price tag you put on the basket. I hope it was organic and worth it.
Kate sounds quite defensive that a tweeter innocently asked her how many times she met Taylor Swift...'quit e a few, why?"
Taylor seems to be a genuinely good person and very close to her own mom. I would be curious what she thinks of Kate. Probably doesn't give it much time of day..but maybe get a song out of it?I'm sure she is being nice for the kids.
If the twins are coming to her with a "playing plan" then we have some hint of how Mady and Cara are buying in to the control model. Where is the spontaneity and fun? It's one thing to assure their mother that everything is fine, but does Kate need a flow chart and spread sheet presented to her so she can tweet from bed in peace?
Is she so ill she cannot drag her sorry ass downstairs to be in proximity of her children? She does manage to tweet complete strangers while the kids entertain each other AGAIN. These children need friends badly.
I would think the kids would want to play outside. Boys and girls at that age often like different things - what if they stray from 'playing plan? Geez.
Oh, and earlier Kate tweeted (I gather) that she may have cured Hannah's migraines by having her drink 2 cups of water at bedtime? Dehydration can cause a regular headache, but bedtime seems a bad time for a child to drink extra water...imo! Never heard of that for migraine cure.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 152
Does she understand most single mothers when they are sick don't have the luxury of staying in bed but just have to get up and go about the day anyway even though they feel lousy? She has to be alienating all the real single moms big time.
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She doesn't care.
I'll bet that it was not even a thought.
It's just another day in Katie's insensitive & offensive world.
I think Kate's comment about the twins and the cruise was somewhat disingenuous. She would hardly admit, at this point, if the girls were not going to go. She might not admit it EVER, until she meets with her group on the ship and, oh gee, no twins? It is the Kate Gosselin Cruise, after all, not the Kate Gosselin & Twins Cruise. And even though both she and Cindy have talked about the twins going, they are under no obligation to confirm or deny anything at this point. The only place the cruise/twins have been discussed is Twitter (and Cindy's "private" e-mails to potential cruisers). There is no mention of the kids on ANY of Cindy's publicly available promotional material.
IF the twins do not turn up on the ship, she'll invent some last-minute LIE as to why they aren't there. She's not worried about lying this far from the event. And I doubt she'll have a moment's consternation about making up some BS story when the time comes. As someone noted above, lying seems to be her one and only true "gift."
These children need friends badly.
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Perfect day for a picnic or inviting friends over. It's gorgeous out. Yet, Kate isn't even giving the kids face time.
I wonder if she called Jon to ask if he wanted some of the kids since she's out of commission today.
NAHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I hope everyone in "tornado alley" is ok. What a tragic storm...
Kate's Going Down said... 157
njay, that was someone else saying they were celebrating their granddaughter or goddaughter's birthday at Chuck E. Cheese, then Jon responded
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Thanks, I realized that after I read more of the above posts. That's what I get for doing my own thinking, or in this case, non reading. lol
Dee3, thanks for your comment on my posts coming out ok.
By the way speaking of Taylor, it was hysterical when Justin Bieber punked her, I'll see if I can find the video later.
Bringing that over to the Bible, that's actually one defense of the truth of the Bible, that the reason the New Testament is not perfectly consistent is because a variety of people are all remembering the same events somewhat differently, but didn't get together to make sure all their stories are the same.
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Had the stories all been the same, the Gospel writers would have been accused of complicity in
the spread of a fake Gospel. The very fact that their stories differ gives the main story of Jesus much more credibility. Nobody remembers the same scene the same way, especially 30 - 60 years after the fact.
lol admin, SPOILER* I saw that one ( my daughter is a huge TS fan) Taylor is just so sweet and buried her face when the 'couple' said "Taylor Swift, you ruined our wedding." Pretty mean but funny. Justin was good in his role too. Perfect Punking. :)
Administrator, my apologies. I only glanced at your paragraph and then proceeded to say the exact same thing all over again. Perhaps I should read before I write? Mea culpa.
Moose Mania said... 30
Great visual but I see them running to each other and chest butting when they meet.
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Except that Kate's chest will reach Milo five minutes before the rest of her body gets there!
Snort! LOL! "I thought a couple of nuclear torpedos were aiming right at me, but then Kate came into focus and I realized it was just her implants!"
Actually I picture the other person in a wheelchair with one or two black snaggle-teeth, in a snap down floral housecoat and greasy grey hair. Kate vomits in their lap at this sight when she realizes that this is her vocal number 1 fan, and they scoop up Kate's vomit to treasure forever. It's AMAZING! It's so LOVING! It's so STRONG and COMPASSIONATE!
If the twins are encouraged to befriend CJ's kid, i think Jon needs to speak up. We all see how unbalabced CJ is and I wouldn't want her kid telling M & C awful lies about their dad.
TLC stinks: I was just thinking that, before I got to your post! about Jon having the boys, cause Jon is either watching the Phillies game at home or is at the park. He posted 4 hours ago. Maybe the girls did not want to go to the ball game or watch it.
As for the snack basket, maybe purseboy bought it for her birthday or her hair dresser, cause he and Dean & Deluca are both in NYC.
And about Kate wanting a hinting about a TV show , please how many times have we heard this?
This Effie person assumes a lot, that Kate is meeting with people to get a TV show. Kate still tryin to keep head above water!
Hey, how come Kate has not mentioned one thing about her BFF Sherri Shepard? Sherri, who was on team Kate, when Kate was on DWTS, who talk relentlessly about Kate, who bashed Jon. Maybe cause, Sherri did not have Kate, take her co-hosting spot, while she did DWTS. You know: no ticky, no washy. Such a BFF, Kate is to Sherri!
I doubt Sherry has any say about who takes her spot but Baba Wawa, who gushed over Kate in the past, obviously no-longer feels Kate is Co-host material.
So... Kate's got a big hangover today, is that what I am reading between the lines? I dont know about the rest of you, but I never stayed in bed during the day, even just getting home from the hospital after surgery or pnuemonia. Never ever ever. The sofa where your kids are playing is your friend.
And if mine hit each other even half as much as Kate's kids do, I wouldnt be leaving it up to older kids to control (oh excuse me, I mean "organize") the nazi 'play plan.' Jeez.
Dwindle: exactly what most of us moms do. I remember crawling to let the dog out once when my husband was away on business and my kids and I were all so sick. None of us hibernated in bedrooms or laundry room floor- we all piled into one 'sick' bed, dog too.Couch during day. I agree about the hitting- no play plan will solve that. All the kids have been seen to be mean and violent to siblings. Shoka? Chickens?
Re: Effie- what a moron. Her colleague does not agree with her,lol.
43m CJWhodunit @CJWhodunit
@Kateplusmy8 Sweet young ladies!My Tweenie is thoughtful like that2!She's looking forward 2 saying hi to them on cruise in August! :-)
20m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@CJWhodunit can't wait!!! They are always up for making new friends! Will be fun!!! Yay!
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I want to hear the yays after these women spend seven days together in the dead heat of August on the high seas. CJ will have edged out the other fan so it will just be the two of the them.
Yay Karma.
She has been Twitter quiet for the last 3 hours. Conclusion: napping in her bedroom.
Wonder how that "play plan" is going about now?
Play plan is a oxymoron.
Kate is a moron.
Dwindle, I had forgotten about it, but I always stayed on the sofa too unless hubby was home if I didn't feel well. The sofa was where I could hear everything that was going on and just rest my eyes. Bedroom door closed now and I wonder if Mady and Cara are under strict orders not to disburb. I bet the room is dark...you know how those hangovers are!
Play plan is a oxymoron.
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Or in Katespeak: Oxy moron.
We have to stay Katically korrect. And let's never forget English was her most favoritist subject.
I remember when Kate said her voice was her best asset, in all seriousness. (She had laryngitis apparently but could till speak) I always cringe at her grammar and malapropisms, never mind her tone or insults, but I hate the way she says 'on,' among other words. Like "Awn" I don't mind regional accents- we all have them- but her voice is just so annoying!!
Kate's Going Down said... 156 A) "Tweenie" is the dumbest word ever.
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I agree. It always makes me think "tiny weinie".
By the time the twins are in high school, taking care of their younger siblings will be their after school job. Leaving Kate free to do...absolutely nothing. How incredibly sad. You shouldn't have kids to want to treat them like dolls and you should want to have more kids so that the older kids could do your job and raise the younger one. Kate won't be a parent she'll just have been the mother. Any female mammal can give birth...it doesn't make you someones mother if you've never actually taken care of them.
Sure, all I've seen Kate do is immediate needs but hardly anything supportive or kind really. I'm waiting for this rebellion. It'll happen. And chances are she won't be ready. I'm in charge and that's never going to change. Right. It will Kate, it will. Then what? Oh yeah...you didn't think that far ahead just like when you didn't think beyond your reality TV show.
Nope. I will have no sympathy for a woman who brings on all her problems herself.
Kate is Krazy - I agree. And I agree Kate is crazy too.
'Fewd' instead of food and 'are' instead of our. Actually it's 'mine' not 'ours'.
Oh hell everything about her is annoying.
Gum chewing for one. But I guess she never watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJFskZ4Z-lw
One word for Kate: parentified.
Hint, it's not a good thing.
Cindy's back. And yes, she was on a cruise! YAy!
I agree, AuntieAnn, that Kate is incurably selfish. Simply explained to the untrained eye, she appears to be just that, "incurably selfish." She wants what she wants and to heck with anyone or anything who gets in her way. She has lost the golden goose, TLC, but she has not lost the entitled attitude. Sad for the children.
I'm not a hockey fan but all the males (ages 6 to 82) and some of the females in my extended family have been glued to our TV screen this afternoon watching the two Pennsylvania hockey teams (Philadelphia and Pittsburgh) battle in out on the ice. I notice in Jon's tweet he supports the "Phillies". I wonder if she allows the children (in particular the boys) to watch this very important game for hockey lovers. In our family we have always encouraged the younger members to take an interest in sports - there being so many other things to avoid for young people.
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