The sextuplets turn 13 with an outdoor excursion that finds the boys roughing it while the girls go "glamping." Also: Kate reflects on past birthdays and looks ahead to having eight teenagers under one roof.
Tucker's Mom (200) The difference between now and 2011 is that TLC didn't announce a cancellation. If they did, that would open the door for her to start another "piecing and patching" media tour. But all they said is they would like to catch up for LIMITED runs in the future--but nothing to announce right now. That leaves Kate in quite a pickle--she doesn't want to admit that they dumped her yet again (that would be a big hit to her ego), but she wants the media attention she might get from playing victim. What to do, what to do??? The game plan seems to be frantically scrambling to line up something new before reality hits. It would be harder to sell the family if she calls attention to the fact that she's unemployed again. There's no competition with other networks, nobody needs to entice them away from TLC with higher pay or perks, and less attention will be drawn to the show's low ratings. If she can't line something up soon, she will probably start the media rounds to cry over her impoverished status.
It definitely had a series finale feel. As others have noted, the bringing back of old "friends," aka characters. Ashley and Kate didn't interact and were literally in different camps. And good ol' Steve...
The VERY last scene of an episod about the quints birthday was Kate talking about being ready to date. Huh? What does that have to do with anything? My guess? Not a dating show, but a Steve and Kate show. Fans appreciated their Odd Couple-like banter, while "haters" appreciated Kate being called out. I feel confident they'll be coming out soon. That scene of tgem and the ending scene were chosen for a reason, not coincidence.
Other notes: 1) How sad that Alexis wanted to be with the boys, but couldn't because she's a girl. So she spent her party with her mean sisters because her "mother" has gender role issues. 2) Getting rid of the swingset was THE biggest F you to Jon, and as someone who has lost a parent and all grandparents, it disgusted me. Jon's late dad gave them that swingset, and he wasn't even mentioned. Kate has no soul.
Dmasy....re Prince William and Catherine. I read years ago that William, his family, Catherine's family and their friends have always called Catherine by her full name. It was the media that nicknamed her Kate with a K even though her name is spelt with a C.
TLC has quite a few new shows coming up this fall, The Little Couple is returning, and Trading Spaces comes back in the beginning of next year.
If they film Kate and the kids at all, I think it will be only for limited "seasons" like the current one that just finished. They'll throw her in when it suits TLC's needs, not hers.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 3 I was just wondering how Jodi and Beth feel when they see those children as 13 year olds. I imagine it's painful to have been such a big part of their childhoods, and to have been swiffered from their lives. ***** I wonder what pain they must feel with Colin sent away from his home. It has to be very emotional, especially when all they can do is sit by and watch.
I see Milo's butting in again replying to tweets that were directed only to Kate. She replied to this tweet about 35 minutes after it was posted. She could have least given Kate some time to answer. Since Kate replied to several of her tweets last night, I guess she feels like she can play "press secretary" again.
The Twinning Podcast @twinningpod 3h3 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 We'd love to get you on our podcast and talk multiples!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago Replying to @twinningpod @Kateplusmy8 Your best bet is to e-mail her.... :)
Hey Milo, if you're going to act as Kate's spokesperson, don't you think it might have been a good idea to actually let this tweeter know what Kate's email is? Just because you have it etched in your head doesn't mean that the whole world has that information.
I've been catching up on all the interesting comments on last night's show. I'm looking forward to Admin's recap. I notice Steve appears to have got himself screen time. My question would be, if he is 'only' her security person why would she need security if all the activity took place on her property, where ordinarily she shouldn't need him.
Obviously I didn't watch so maybe his appearance was for other reasons, possibly to explain he is much closer to her that she has up until now acknowledged.
Good to know, from reading the TLC comments, that we are not alone in expressing concern for Collin.
Ratings! 801,000. So, this 3-episode "series" has been: Episode 1 918,000 Episode 2 781,000 Episode 3 801,000
Season average: 833,000 It's been 18 months since any episode of K+8 has broken a million viewers. And it doesn't look like that losing streak is going to change.
JR (#13), yep, you're using your TFW/English translator there! She's so transparent. She's said she's too busy to meet someone. But she's up for it if you give her a show that'll take up all her time to film, and will keep her away from her 7 little albatrosses. What man wouldn't want a swell gal like that?
Yes that comment about having the avenue was very odd....that's a strange way to describe your future mate...and was also bizarre the way she just brought it up out of thin air like that....god she's so obvious.....the only thing she's interested in is money
Re old friends and family who've been banished, I bet that either Beth or Jodi would have willingly stepped in to take Collin, regardless of his "issues." The fact that she doesn't seem to have involved even his father speaks volumes about her motives. She simply can't be seen as the one who failed this child. Obviously, Kate's needs trump everyone's, as always.
Great news on the ratings. A 0.22 share and 39th-ranked cable program. Kate has only herself to blame here. Despite all her proclamations about how she's changed and mellowed, all anyone seems to be able to talk about is what a red-hot mess she is. I think she thought she was funny. That's how out of touch with reality she is.
BTW, Duggars' part 2 "after party" had 1.18mm viewers. So, again, a third of the viewers of that show changed the channel when she came on, nearly 400K. I don't think the trend could be any clearer.
For some reason, TLC "updated" the cover photo on their K8 FB page again a few hours ago. It's the same picture that had been up there prior to about a month ago, so I have no idea why they bothered.
This is the same woman who's been making comments about why Collin's in a facility and for how long. Is it possible she works at this place? If so, she should lose her job. She's all over the FB page.
Mandi Mendoza He is in a rehab facility till hes 18. The kids arent allowed to visit . Kate gets 1 visit a month. So im sure she did something with him. But while he is getting treatment the other children still deserve a party
Mandi Mendoza He only gets one call a month with Kate and she gets 1 visit a month
Who thinks K8 actually visits or talks with him by phone once a month? Show of hands?
Well the kids are "annoyed" because TFW is still single so someone will just have to put her on a dating show, i.e., give her an "avenue" to meet someone. Maybe they can do an updated Dating Game and one of the bachelors behind the screen can be Steve.
Their 13th birthday got less viewers than their 12th birthday, which had 869,000 viewers.
I think more people were tuned out because it was the second birthday party without Collin. It also didn't help that she was a raving lunatic during the Halloween party and people probably thought it was just be more of the same thing.
Ratings are consistently mediocre. Almost 200,000 viewers tuned out after Counting On. I think people are finally over the Gosselins and the Duggars.
Part of the problem is how out of time the episodes were. Who wants to see Halloween and winter skiing during the hottest month of the year? Only the birthday episodes (the tups 10, 11, & 13 and her 40th) were turned around in a reasonable time.
Given that not one episode of this limited season broke 1 million viewers I hope the scripted filming will now be done and we'll see a casual annual update at most.
Only time will tell and I'm not counting anything out yet. I'll feel a lot more confident if we can get to the end of January without anything new on TV. Surely any additional footage they may get this summer or the twins' birthday in October would be shown by then if they are filmed.
MikeB (23) 380,000 viewers turned the channel after Counting On, not 200,000. And there has not been a single episode that has broken a million since January 2016. People are so over the Gosselins.Reality TV, as a whole, is not what it used to be. A few years ago these shows got 2-3 million viewers--or more--per episode. But even with the overall downturn, K+8 has fared worse than all the rest.
Kate needs an "avenue" for dating? Well, let's see, what has she tried so far? A friend has arranged one blind date for her, and...that's it. So it's not like she's exhausted every "avenue" out there. What she means is, if she's going to date, she wants to be on TV and she wants a paycheck for it. Isn't she just so darn special? Other women sign up for Match.com, but she needs to make money off of it. Good luck with that. Nobody wants to watch Kate, no matter what she does. In fact, there's a lot of people saying that they'd rather she wasn't on her current show; that it was just the kids without her. What makes her think people would tune in to see her without the kids when they don't even want to see her WITH the kids?
Sad but true said... 19 For some reason, TLC "updated" the cover photo on their K8 FB page again a few hours ago. It's the same picture that had been up there prior to about a month ago, so I have no idea why they bothered. ====================
And there has not been a single episode that has broken a million since January 2016 --------------
The last episode that got over a million viewers was the Blind Date episode with 1.079 million.
Maybe that's why Kate brought up dating. Perhaps TLC told her that the show's ratings suck, and Kate figured if she had more dating episodes or a show about her dating, they'd have more viewers.
You are correct in the 380,000 number. I don't know where my brain was. That makes it even worse. She's lost the better part of half-a-million viewers from Counting On each week.
Coat tailing on the Royal Family discussion, here's a piece some may find interesting. Prince Harry is very candid talking about his struggles after his mother's death.
That crazy Nick person is female. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it. Men don't rant like that. They just go outside on the baseball field or court, and play with their balls.
TLC just posted a "bonus" scene over on the K8 FB. The twins doing party shopping. Must have been the last hurrah on the limitless credit card.
Cara's stalker is still at it.
Anthony Salomone Ok I am tired of some of some people comments about Kate and how she rude and nasty and how Cara and Mady are brats if u guys don't like her or Mady or Cara then here the thing don't watch the show very simple and by the way Cara is very shy and very quiet that's how she's always been
I certainly hope Mr. Head of Security has scoped this guy out to ensure he's not going to be trouble.
Sentenced him???? Did he commit a crime? Is that the right terminology....and why is there a judge involved? Hmmmm. This is getting more disturbing by the minute
Nobody's gonna give this idiot a dating show...been hearing this since Jon passed on...she never stops! I honestly think she never wants to get married again and frankly I don't think she likes men very much and is much happier without one in her life...
Geez, by the time C comes home, he won't even look the same! He will have gotten a lot taller and have a deeper voice. He left a child and will come back a teenager. Kate is missing out on raising this smart, kind, funny, beautiful boy. I understand going away for treatment, but the length of time he's been gone now is getting ridiculous. After so long you would think he would be well enough to transition to outpatient care. She'd rather have teachers/counselors/residential staff raise her son than his own father. Each day that goes by with him gone is one day more Kate misses of her son's childhood. She will never get these days back. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and I'm sure the extended family is wishing they could raise him. Kate should bring him home and hire a live-in care provider if she needs help. There's nothing wrong with getting help, but bring this poor boy home to be with his siblings, and let him see his grandparents, Beth, Jodi, his aunts, uncles, cousins and his own father.
Kate needs to realize the twins are both affected by having their brother gone so long. I noticed Cara wasn't on the bday episode, and Mady was nicer than she has been in the past...probably nervous she will be sent away like her brother. Poor kids. Bless their hearts.
Hi all! I missed this extravaganza by accident, if I had known I would have missed it on purpose! Honestly, this sounds soooo boring. I did think about the former Mrs Jon Gosselin few days ago, while reading about my favorite guilty summer pleasure, Big Brother! Came across an announcement about Jeff Schroeder who was on Big Brother twice, seasons 11 and 13. Jeff will be a host on a daily show, http://www.tegna.com/tegna-announces-host-lineup-fall-premiere-date-for-daily-blast-live/ Fans like him, and he has a good reputation of being very easy to work with. He won fan favorite both seasons he was on. Jeff and Jordan, who he met on Big Brother and had a "showmance" with, went on to get married and have a baby. Being on Big Brother led to many career opportunities with CBS, multiple appearances on different shows, and hosting online content, interviews, and more. He and Jordan were on The Amazing Race and a reality star edition of Marriage Boot Camp. He was on a reality star edition of Price is right. He is an example of how you can turn a reality show appearance into more opportunity. tfmjg was on Dancing With The Stars and could have done so much more IF she had been nice to work with. One more opportunity she wasted.
18?? That's FIVE years from now...omg..and I guarantee he will go live on his own after that...he will never be in that house again...assuming all that is true
I'm quite skeptical of that Mandi Mendoza who's posting those comments about Collin on FB. She just makes statements and doesn't reply to any questions addressed to her as to how she knows so much about Collin.
According to her FB page she lives in Dover, DE, so how would she know anything at all about what's going on with Collin?
I think she's just someone who wants to act like she's in the know but has no clue about anything.
I'm taking it with a grain of salt and suggest others do the same.
Each day that goes by with him gone is one day more Kate misses of her son's childhood. She will never get these days back. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and I'm sure the extended family is wishing they could raise him. Kate should bring him home and hire a live-in care provider if she needs help. There's nothing wrong with getting help, but bring this poor boy home to be with his siblings, and let him see his grandparents, Beth, Jodi, his aunts, uncles, cousins and his own father.
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What if it's an acute behavior problem with violent tendencies and you'd have to lock the kids' bedroom doors at night, as well as your own door? He'd need round the clock supervision to make sure that he's not a danger to himself and the rest of the family.
The thing is that we just don't know how severe his issues really are. Maybe I watch too many true murder/crime shows, but you just never know what can happen.
" Since Kate replied to several of her tweets last night, I guess she feels like she can play "press secretary" again."
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It's all she has in her life. It makes her feel so important, and that's pathetic.
That crazy Nick person is female. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it. Men don't rant like that. They just go outside on the baseball field or court, and play with their balls.
JusticeForCollin @Sassccha 2h2 hours ago More Replying to @Sassccha @ANightMessenger and 2 others 2) K8 & @TLC furious when Jon left; conspired to make his life a living Hell .. Court suggested downsizing but K8 sneered at "mediocre Life"
When did the court suggest to Kate that she downsize? I know I've missed a lot, but I don't remember that.
@KIAT I don't trust any random facebook poster who claims to know anything about whats going on with the gosselins.They are about as reliable as any of Kate's loyal fans who claim to have a close personal relationship with Kate.
Devil's Advocate here. If Kate were advised by therapists, physicians and/or psychologists to put Collin into a treatment facility and she ignored that advice, and heaven forbid he caused something to happen to one or more of his siblings, what then? Would she be chastised for not listening to professional advice but rather kept him at home because that's where he belonged...with his family?
Mady was nicer than she has been in the past...probably nervous she will be sent away like her brother. ======== Yes, Mady was nicer than she's been in a long time but I don't think she's afraid of being sent away. She knows TFW's currency and rules the roost. On the other hand, if TFW had been moaning and groaning about what they're going to do if the show goes away, Mady may have been on her best behavior due to the guilt trip TFW may have laid on her.
"Kate has been complaining about Collin since he was a little boy. Being singled out by a tyrant like Kate Gosselin, who treats her children like prisoners according to reports, would have a profound impact on a developing boy. Though we wouldn't expect to see the full psychological impact until years after the children have all escaped from her grasp."
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Didn't get opportunity 2ask this last nite...#QuestionsDuringTweetSession But will you ever come back to twitter? Say YES? :) @Kateplusmy8
Kate left Twitter for a reason. Yes, the harassment, but also all those annoying people she now follows due to her little tweet-party game. The very last thing she wants is to come back to Twitter. And besides, you have all those other ways of communicatin'.
Sad but true (#57), Gladys is already going through withdrawal. She had such a thrilling hour last night (after ditching the seniors she was going to help), but she knows the show ending for the season means less and less contact from TFW. And she needs her fix.
I sure wish they had shown Steve and the kids interacting since he was there to teach them compass skills! Would have been interesting to to see the interaction ,meaning do they act like they respect him, like him,or just ignore him. The show was a waste of time again, so happy that I won't torture myself by watching any more and hope the only news coming from that family is only good that they are living a private life and Collin is doing just fine! And Milo gets a grandbaby soon so she can focus on someone else, and we all live happily ever after!!!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago More Didn't get opportunity 2ask this last nite...#QuestionsDuringTweetSession But will you ever come back to twitter? Say YES? :) @Kateplusmy8
She is freaking nuts. Funny, but insane and very weird.
Kate said later in the show that if she thought of a good idea than she would have a big tup party next year. So even though she said at one point about no more birthday parties until they turned 16 she later threw in the above comment.
Also I thought it was very revealing that Steve point blank said on camera that Kate was disorganized. We have all talked about this for years. We all thought Kate's talk about her being so organized was a bunch of crap and apparently it is. She is a fake as they come. Oh,please we see every episode how disorganized she is!
But what was really telling and shocking is Kate did NOT say that Collin was missed. She only said that they notice he is missing. That is a night and day difference.
She should have never filmed last year or this year's birthday party for the tups. The family should have a private celebration with all EIGHT of the kids.
Also Kate has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is totally boring on a date. So I highly doubt there would be a dating show with her staring in it. And IF her kids are truly begging her to date it is only because Kate is the one that is throwing the idea in their faces repeatedly.
Also I thought the statement from TLC was rather encouraging with regards to filming the Gosslins in the future. No, I don't think she will have regular full seasons but I certainly think TLC will be there to film a few times a year. "As the kids get older, they clash more with Mom. Douglas mentions the mini season’s “8 against Kate” vibe. She hopes there will be more Kate Plus 8. “We’ve followed the family for 11 years and we love them,” said Douglas. “We are very invested in this family.”
I did not think that last night's show with Steve, Jamie, and Ashley was a hint that this was a goodbye show in the least. I think they were all there because they were needed to be there. Steve for the compass and to hide all the food. And Ashley and Jamie to assist with the large amount of guests and the two separate parties that were thrown (one for the boys and girls).
If Kate were advised by therapists, physicians and/or psychologists to put Collin into a treatment facility and she ignored that advice, and heaven forbid he caused something to happen to one or more of his siblings, what then? Would she be chastised for not listening to professional advice but rather kept him at home because that's where he belonged...with his family? ======== Kate should be chastened because the public should not know anything about Collin's problems. Why should the entire world know that this child has severe behavioral problems. First we find out he was kicked out of kindergarten and now many, many years later we find out he has not lived at home for a long time. The only reason we do is because of his idiot, selfish Mother. Remember Kate went on ET with Mary Hart and the Today show when he was kicked out of kindergarten. Then she was on the cover of People magazine last year announcing his problems and how he was sent away. Had she never filmed over 150 episodes about his life over the past 11 years the public would NEVER has criticized her. So Kate deserves all the speculation and criticism for what she does or does not do with regards to Collin.
I went to TLC facebook to read the comments and they had posted this boring piece. Oh yes, they did go shopping again for the party. They really need to start filming different stuff. https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/party-shopping?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=TLC&utm_medium=social&utm_content=DCIobj%20-%20Short%20Form&sf100881062=1
I wanted to post the list of advertisers for Counting On last night, but had to go out of town today. I'm back and there were some interesting differences between last week's list and this week. Some quick observations first.
Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David. Now this is pure speculation on my part, but John-David looks a lot like Josh--maybe JimBoob thought it best to delay his storyline for a while and he may even be holding out hope of a double wedding with John-David & Jana--aww, the twins find their soulmate(s) at the same time. I hope John-David fires up his airplane soon and flies himself and Jana away from this creepy cult. JimBoob and Babykins make a brief appearance and JimBoob states he expects to have at least 100 grandchildren based on his expectation that each of the 19 kids will have at least 5 kids each. Good News Anna--you're done! Run! Babykins recites her lines, then spends her time making goo-goo eyes at Spurgeon or the new baby. At the time Counting On The Aftershow was filmed, Joy-Anna and Austin had been married 26 days and had only returned home 2 days prior to the filming. So they had a 2 week honeymoon in Switzerland and according to Joy-Anna they were accompanied by 8 TLC crew members. How does TLC justify this kind of expense with less advertisers? No wonder Khate gave TLC the finger last week---the Duggar children are getting all her overseas trips.
As always, the episode starts with a 1 1/2 minute or so recap of the season's episodes.
1st round of commercials
1. Outdaughtered 2. Kidnap--Aviron Pictures 3. Taco Bell 4. Command Hooks 5. *Local company 6. Culver's 7. *Local company (same one--2) 8. Hair Goddess
2nd round of commercials
9. 'Up next--Counting On' 10. I Am Jazz 11. Progressive 12. Boss Baby--Dreamworks movie 13. Spectrum 14. Lorissa's Kitchen 15. 90 Day Fiance 16. Princess Diana: Tragedy or Treason
3rd round of commercials
17. Loooonnnnngggg promo for Meet the Putnams--the 26 person/3 generation family living under 1 roof 18. VERY! short promo for Kate + 8 season finale 19. Taco Bell (2) 20. Kidnap (2) 21. The Company Store.com 22. *Local company 23. Outdaughtered 24. I Am Jazz
We're done! Show ends with next season promo for Counting On from 9:58--10:00
Just a quick review of my notes indicates at least 2-3 (depending on if you count the 'up next' promos for Counting On), less national advertisers and more local advertisers. I live in a city with a nationally recognized children's hospital and a CPS agency that has had multiple child abuse cases that have made the national news, so I do call and tweet both the local and national advertisers for both the Duggar lovefest and Khate's house of horrors. I like to think it helps, but the difference in the advertisers may just be coincidence.
I wonder if Cara and Mady have any interest in dating? I don't recall any mention of them going to any school dances or anything. I think that is weird. I assume they are entering their junior year.
What year are the tups entering? I never can remember.
Steve admitting on camera that TFW is disorganized seems to be proof positive that she has no editorial control of the show. That was a big reveal. I remember them preparing for their Disney trip years ago, and M looked at all the supplies they were taking and said something like, "My mother is very organized." But methinks the TLC production assistants were very organized.
Sad that C was the one always covering his face for the paps. Now whenever he gets out from wherever he's been, they will really want to try and get photos.
Greta Sophia said... 71 Sad that C was the one always covering his face for the paps. Now whenever he gets out from wherever he's been, they will really want to try and get photos. *** It's going to be a big story when Colin is allowed to rejoin society and when those kids are not under Kate's control of narrative any longer.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 70 Steve admitting on camera that TFW is disorganized seems to be proof positive that she has no editorial control of the show. **** Seems more and more like the RV episode where TLC decides to pull back the curtain and let's the viewer in the the joke.
But what was really telling and shocking is Kate did NOT say that Collin was missed. She only said that they notice he is missing. That is a night and day difference. **** Not only that, but what Kate did say is that SHE is comforted. Well, that's been obvious every since Collin went buh-bye.
She should have never filmed last year or this year's birthday party for the tups. The family should have a private celebration with all EIGHT of the kids. ***** I so agree. Everything from these lavish birthdays to trips being filmed and televised-along with her LOVE for her dogs-should be private and not televised to the world.
You know what occurs to me when Kate continues to say that the kids want her to date and marry? I think what might be closer to the truth is that the kids want Steve and Kate to come out as a couple and commit to each other, instead of this hiding and obfuscating and duping the public because it's financially expedient.
The kids know what's going on for years and years now.
No married guy goes on vacation with a single mother and her kids unless it's in the strictest of professional capacity.
That hasn't been the case with Steve for a very long time.
When I saw how Steve handled pizza gate, that told me everything I needed to know. He had a golden opportunity to shut down her outburst and just tell her, don't worry about me or the pizza, I'll figure something out for lunch, it's no big deal. He chose not to. Instead Kate ended up very upset at several people, and all those people ended up very upset too, and it was just bad.
Lest we forget, pizza gate was all about Kate being upset that STEVE was "wronged."
I didn't watch Diana's funeral. I just taped it for posterity and put the tape away.
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In hindsight, I almost regret watching every moment of it. As I recall, we were still not back to school yet, so we stayed home and watched it all.
William and I are a month apart in age, and the shock of the situation of knowing intimately just how young he was and how much you still need your parents at that age, was deeply disturbing to me. I remember looking at William nearly the whole time and trying to imagine what that must feel like, not only losing your mum but having to lose her so publicly. It was just upsetting. I think my own mother was having a tough time of it too, just trying to imagine disappearing on your kids at that age, with her own kids William's age and a year younger than Harry.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
Remember how attached A was to Beth, and TFW described Beth as his "second mommy?" I'd like to think that as adults, some of the G kids will try to connect with these women, who, as TFW put it, loved the family "for all the right reasons." And were cast aside for all the wrong ones.
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Some will, and that's a comfort, because it will be hard to explain what they've been through to someone who wasn't ever there or doesn't really know their mother. I think the kids may very well re-connect with some of the discarded people in their lives as the kids grow up and get to make their own decisions about who will be around them. And since so many of the trashed friends and family seemed like very good people, that is good.
The thing that has always bothered me, was the fact that if C was this bad, and needed to be sent to a facility, 12 is a little late to be dealing with the issue. From what Kate has stated, most issues seem behavioural. While I'm glad he's getting help, these issues were probably always there. I guess treatment would have thrown a wrench into filming a couple hundred episodes.
Leslie (62) We never thought the show was ending for good, based on the TLC statement--just that they are taking a break for awhile. And the "limited runs" in the future will be more like this mini-season and less like the 8-episode seasons of the past couple years. Something happened as far as this show is concerned--TLC gave it very little publicity for these past two seasons, cut this season very short, and didn't contract for another one to come at some point in the future. They are pretty much over it, based on appearances. But the tups will still have milestones in the coming years, and no doubt TLC will want to try to cash in on them. The lady who gave the statement is a producer for K+8, so of course she will be pushing to keep one of "her" shows. It might just end up having very limited runs. It looks like TLC learned its lesson for trying to turn it back into a regular show.
Nicky said... 80 The thing that has always bothered me, was the fact that if C was this bad, and needed to be sent to a facility, 12 is a little late to be dealing with the issue. _____
Precisely. What, exactly, was happening between the ages of 5 and 10? He was on camera for all of the episodes filmed during that period, with no apparent issues. Was he getting help all that time and the public just didn't know about it? Was there a "diagnosis" that demanded he be provided extra help/therapy and she just didn't say anything? We know with some measure of certainty that he was taking some sort of medication during this period. But outside of that, there was nothing that would be obvious to the viewer, EXCEPT for K8's attitude towards him, which in context always seemed inexplicable and harsh.
Jon needs to demand to know where his son is, even if that means going on national television begging Kate. He needs to do whatever it takes!! If he were my child I would've done a heck of a lot more to find him than what Jon Gosselin is doing.
Yes, I bet people like Nana Janet and Beth, Aunt Jodi and Kevin are all so worried about Collin and the other kids too. I do hope the connection is there or re-established later on although maybe the twins see them as toxic people as they do their own father.
Now the remaining kids will see they can get out of filming by just refusing to be on camera like their sister C did in the last episode. Her show is over.
Nicky (#80), THIS. TFW admitted it was a gradual change in C's behavior that got worse. And what was she doing during that time? Hauling him around the country with cameras in his face, leaving him in other people's care for long periods of time, and depriving his father the opportunity to intervene. No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
The public was literally crushed with grief. ________________________________________________________
Yes! This is what I remember the most. Especially once they got to the part of the boys walking behind the casket. I was watching with my sister, and we talked about how horrible it must be for them to hear the wailing of some people. And it was wailing! I think I read in the last week or so, Harry made a comment about how could they think it would be healthy to put a 12 yr old through that.
They held back so much emotion for their age. Maybe it was shock, or compliance to being a royal. They were trotted out in front of crowds less than 12 hrs after she died (going to church), and then back in London, greeting and shaking hands of the public. No wonder they have had a tough time over these years processing their feelings.
I haven't watched the special, but I think the CBC here is airing it soon.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
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What got me was Will and Harry walking behind the procession, heads down and the flowers on top of the casket with the white card with To: Mummy written on it!
What got me even more is when Will and Harry went to the crowd and the WOMEN were so crushed and anguished for them. I remember one lady with a scarf on her head and she got her hands and put them on Will's face. She was so upset.
People in the crowd throwing flowers hoping they would land on the car.
The flowers were piling up in huge piles outside the gate that the UK ran out of flowers. They had to ship flowers from Israel.
The British public wanted the Queen to lower the Union Jack at half-mass. Here is the link to the article:
Nicky (80) Not to mention, if C was so bad off that he needed to be institutionalized, he should never have been forced to work. Imagine a child who was struggling so much, and she still forced him to support her. She used him and refused to stop until he was gone.
News in the Duggar girls lawsuit against the city. I couldn't link them to here. Pickles asked if there was any lawyers out there to look at it and someone did.
XXXXX Do you have the initial lawsuit pleadings? What are the Duggar girls suing for?
This order is more about procedure in the case. When the case was filed, the court sets timelines for discovery and exchange of information between the parties, as well as scheduled dates for motions and such.
The defendants filed a motion to dismiss them from the lawsuit arguing that they are immune from suit (as a municipality). Their motion to dismiss has not yet been ruled on.
In the meantime, the defendants filed a motion to stay the exchange of information. Basically saying, judge if you might be dismissing us from the suit, we shouldn't have to turn over the information they've requested because you might agree we are immune from suit.
The judge agreed and said, for now, the defendants don't have to turn over information requested as part of the lawsuit. However, the court said that doesn't mean the defendants don't have to comply with FOIA requests.
FOIA (freedom of information act) requests can come from anyone and must be turned over by the defendants. Even if those requests for information come from the Duggars.
So, they can get FOIA information from the defendants, but for now they can't get other information that they are requesting as part of the lawsuit ( information that they would not be able to access under an FOIA request).
XXXXX They are suing for damages to their "professional reputation" and for "invasion of privacy".
XXXXX The Duggars are asking for 15 million from the City of Springdale.
Duggar Family News: Life is not all pickles and hairspray. I didn't think they named a price.
XXXXX It was on the local news here. I will see if I can find the article and post it.
XXXXX That will break us, won't it? Springdale isn't as wealthy as the neighboring cities.
XXXXX You are good! Thanks for explaining.
xxxxx What "professional reputation? 😂Grifting? These people are delusional.
xxxxx They ruined their own reputation. It's their own son who did the act and they tried to cover it up. THEY are the ones who made the girls go on tv to defend their brother. No one did this TO them... they did it to themselves.
xxxxx The Duggars have a lot of nerve since it's their own fault that info was released. Had they reported the incident when it occurred, none of this would have happened.
xxxxx Hurt, yes it would really hurt Springdale. But why should they care. It doesn't affect them.
xxxxx That's just rotten of them!
xxxxx Imagine if the police had refused to release it. InTouch would have run a story about the rumor and how they requested the police reports, but Springdale was refusing to release them against the FOIA. It would have been a tacit admission that they existed in the first place. Same result.
Duggar Family News: Life is not all pickles and hairspray. The police can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
That memory is burned in my mind as well. I had the TV on waiting for the funeral and fell back to sleep. I woke to the sounds of people wailing and crying "Diana!" Still haunts me.
Just watched the shopping clip. How much party crap does one person need? And all that stuff they were pulling out of the garage was new and coming out of boxes that had been shipped. She should watch "The minimalist" documentary. All this stuff is not making her happy!!!
Steve is not aging well. I was amazed how bad his teeth are and how different he looks up close. I know I'm being bitchy but he does seem like an old grump.
Kate was absolutely dead behind the eyes during her Collin speech - no emotion whatsoever. She looked pissed more than sad.
Sorry for the long windedness of this message but this is the first chance I've had to comment in awhile. TFW is still horrible - period.
on needs to demand to know where his son is, even if that means going on national television begging Kate. He needs to do whatever it takes!! If he were my child I would've done a heck of a lot more to find him than what Jon Gosselin is doing.
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How do you know that Jon doesn't now know where he is, and how do you know exactly what he has done or hasn't done?
JustMissy (#91), I didn't watch the show, but I know that dead-eye look. I also know that when TFW is within 100 yards of a camera, microphone or red carpet, she lights up like a Christmas tree. So she is quite capable of joy. She just doesn't get it from being a mother.
77.....don't forget. During pizzagate, while Kate was freaking out about Steve being left out Ashley said "it always about him". That was the telling point to me. Steve may not receprocate (I don't know) but one thing is clear...she's at least emotionally in her own delusional head, having an emotional affair with him.
We've heard nothing from Jon since last fall, I believe, around the time K8 was going on TV to proclaim that SHE was the only one who knew where Collin was. We've never even heard whether his custody case went forward or not. Something must have transpired between then and now, but I guess the gag order has, for the first time, prevented any info from getting out.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 86 Nicky (#80), THIS. TFW admitted it was a gradual change in C's behavior that got worse. And what was she doing during that time? Hauling him around the country with cameras in his face, leaving him in other people's care for long periods of time, and depriving his father the opportunity to intervene. No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading. _________________________________________________________
What doesn't make sense to me, is the "gradual" change. She has stated he needs to "learn life skills, and strategies to help him deal with things". How could he have been "fine" from age 5 to maybe 9 or 10, then all of a sudden, he has no life skills?
I believe she did have him in therapy, medication, etc., during that time, but outsourced it, and made it the babysitter's/nanny's responsibility to execute. And with a child who has behaviourial issues, you have to adjust your reaction as well. She hasn't changed - we all see how she can ramp up to 100 if she's frustrated - imagine how C's issues would have escalated in that environment. He would have lashed out even harder.
She should be getting therapy along side of him. Her comments that he's at a place he needs to be at to get help tell me all I need to know about her - Let someone else solve that problem. She solved her problem by sending him away.
There's a new reality show in the works, Celebs Go Dating featuring zlist celebrities. I wonder if she has this in mind for her future. ======== Well now that she's read about it here (waves to TFW) she'll get Steve right on it. However, the show will have to vet anyone that appears on it and if she and Steve are actually a couple (secretly married?) this will come out and she won't be eligible to appear.
Also, I just want to add, my 11 yr old has dealt with behaviourial issues, and we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but for years, I was on high alert, but not to the detriment to my other son. As mothers, we learn how to do 10 different things at once, and sometimes, it takes 5 minutes of alone time with your kid to calm them down.
And I will state this again - she has had YEARS with 8 kids to learn how to multi task, get a meal together, pack for a vacation (lots of practice there), and to this day she still can't handle the stress?? How do her sheeple not see this??
Yowza, those Daily Mail comments are scathing! I had to stop reading, because they were almost all the same.
Reading about this episode, it almost sounds like TFW was planning a party for her neighbor's kids, or for a business client. Where was the joy and excitement? Was she throwing those parties because she's crazy about her children, and delights in doing things they'll enjoy, or because TLC offered to film it? Even that final tweet is so bland: saying it was such a fun 13th birthday party. She's just not into them.
I'm starting to think that they're mostly just worried about the optics of letting the family go at this point. They've been with them for so long, they might worry it looks a little cold on their part to suddenly cut off filming. By easing them out slowly, rationing them down episode by episode until they disappear, the transition is less jarring to viewers and viewers will be more accepting, feeling like they got a proper goodbye. It's all calculated by them, and none of it has to do with actually caring about this family. Puh-lease. ***************************** Sorry to go back to previous comments, but I'm still catching up after my day trip yesterday.
In Robert's book he had an excerpt of the contract Jon & Kate signed that stated they were to make all 8 of their children available for filming. We all saw sick children filmed and Khate putting off emergent doctor's visits when filming was scheduled. I believe that Khate drastically downplayed or hid the extent of Colin's problems until one day TLC was informed/showed up to film and Colin was no longer there. So technically Khate is now in breach of contract BUT if TLC pulls the plug on the show, they open themselves up to even more scrutiny coming on the heels of the Duggar scandal. They've all seen and captured on film Khate's abusive behavior towards the kids. So their best choice is to mix up the order of the episodes and give her another season while they wait to gauge the public's reaction to Colin's disappearance. All while cutting the filming budget. As the outrage is beginning to build, they give her a shortened season. The show whimpers to a close, the majority of the American public is outraged and the outrage is directed at Khate. As it should be, but TLC will eventually have to answer for their part in this debacle. TLC epitomizes the old saying crazy like a fox.
For those who watched the show, did anyone catch the look on Jamie's face and her nasty tone when she joined Khate in yelling at the kids after the snake made it's appearance? The cameras cut away quickly, but it was scary.
Something that made my blood run cold was Khate discussing the boys, specifically Joel. I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was to the effect of he was making his opinions known or something and you could tell she didn't like it. Then she passed it off saying he makes her laugh. Both Colin and Joel look a lot like Jon which makes them an automatic, if subconscious target of Khate's. Thank goodness he still sees Jon.
BM... I googled Celebs Go Dating TV show and it appears it is a British show. Too bad Kate!
Susan: "Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David." ========================== That is so interesting. I was half watching Counting On while I was doing other things. Did TLC literally say it on the show that John--David was in a relationship with Kendra at one point or did you read about this somewhere else? If this is true that is so heartbreaking and wrong. Thanks!
What year are the tups entering this fall? And are the twins going to be juniors? Kate tweeted that the twins have their learner's permit. That is great; I can't imagine any teen not wanting to drive.
Kate did make some comment to the effect that she was pleasantly surprised that Joel was exhibiting some leadership skills during the birthday hunt for food. Talk about a left-handed comment. That is par for Kate though. Bash her lovely son.
And did anybody notice that all three of the girl tups had braces on. And don't forget that Cara and Mady had braces on in the past. Of course though, no braces for her sons...yet, if ever.
Susan1956 (#102), it sure was revealing to find out those tiny kids were contractually obligated to work on something that had no choice about. And I agree about the boys' resemblance to Jon being an issue for her. She managed to kick him to the curb, but I bet she is none too thrilled to have some of his DNA right in front of her face every day. I know that sounds harsh, but, c'mon...they're still the dirty, icky boys to her. J was the clueless, forgotten tup, and A was the one whose feet smelled as a baby. Yeah, she's crazy about them...
I believe she did have him in therapy, medication, etc., during that time, but outsourced it, and made it the babysitter's/nanny's responsibility to execute. And with a child who has behaviourial issues, you have to adjust your reaction as well. She hasn't changed - we all see how she can ramp up to 100 if she's frustrated - imagine how C's issues would have escalated in that environment. He would have lashed out even harder. ======== I think she probably went off on him one too many times and he finally struck back. Beat a dog enough and he's bound to bite.
Susan: "Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David." ========================== That is so interesting. I was half watching Counting On while I was doing other things. Did TLC literally say it on the show that John--David was in a relationship with Kendra at one point or did you read about this somewhere else? If this is true that is so heartbreaking and wrong ***************** I am so sorry, I've been putting the wrong information in my posts. Evidently Kendra Caldwell was originally involved with Jedidiah, not John-David. I read it here and confused the two brothers.
So the only theory I'm left with re: the shade thrown at John-David is maybe envy of his talents and employment opportunities? I mean he can fly a plane which is a skill that can translate to the current job market and I believe Jana has bought property in her name. Jessa and Joseph, not so much.
Leslie said... 103 BM... I googled Celebs Go Dating TV show and it appears it is a British show. Too bad Kate! ****************** I'm thinking Khate and Skeevie could appear on TLC's Spouse House. Oh, wait. The are not strangers to each other.
Just saw a commercial for Growing Up Supermodel. Did somebody steal part of Khate's title from Growing Up Gosselin?
So I have emailed or left voice mails for all of the local ad executives whose company's commercials ran during this week's Counting On and Kate + 8.
But this is interesting--I actually talked for several minutes with a man whose company ran an ad Monday on Counting On. While he had a vague memory of the Duggar scandal, he did not realize Counting On is a spinoff of 19 Kids and Counting. So whoever said upthread JimBoob is waiting for people's memories to fade was right. However, he does know who our girl Khate is without watching the show and had a few things to say about her. Upshot is that he has a quarterly meeting coming up with his ad agency and will instruct them that his company's ads are not to be run on either show in the future.
And did anybody notice that all three of the girl tups had braces on. And don't forget that Cara and Mady had braces on in the past. Of course though, no braces for her sons...yet, if ever. ======== It looks like Aaden has braces but Joel doesn't and, if you ask me, Joel's teeth could use some dental work. However, we don't know if he's seeing the orthodontist and why there's a delay in his getting braces.
Just saw a commercial for Growing Up Supermodel. Did somebody steal part of Khate's title from Growing Up Gosselin? __________________
That's not from Kate. There was a reality show several years ago called "Growing Up Gotti" about the grandsons of John Gotti. The Growing Up..... part may even be from something earlier. Pretty common phrase.
Vanessa (113) "In 5 years I don't know if I'll be single of not" translates (from Kate-speak to English) to, "Somebody better sign me up for a dating show RIGHT NOW before it's too late!".
At this point, it's too late to help Kate's 8. I am more concerned now about the Busby children. Their father is exhibiting unhealthy signs. He is always taking his shirt off to display his chest. How is that relevant in a show about a family? And now we learn that he has been suffering from possible depression since the quints were born. His concern about the daughter with the eye problems is causing him great stress. I am sure that raising 6 daughters is very demanding and a great responsibility. I cannot imagine that exposing them on a TV show is good for them along with the lack of privacy for the family. He may feel that he has few options financially.
However, he does know who our girl Khate is without watching the show and had a few things to say about her. Upshot is that he has a quarterly meeting coming up with his ad agency and will instruct them that his company's ads are not to be run on either show in the future.
---- I thought when ads are purchased to run on TLC, or any network such as that, the company doesn't know on what show they will be run and that they have no choice.
Only TFW could observe only 5 of her 6 sextuplets gathered around cakes and define it as an iconic moment. More like a heartbreaking moment. Or a bittersweet one at best. C was turning 13 that day, too -- far away from everyone and everything he loved.
What year are the tups entering this fall? And are the twins going to be juniors? Kate tweeted that the twins have their learner's permit. That is great; I can't imagine any teen not wanting to drive.
----- I think that they will be in 7th grade in the fall, second year of Middle School, and the older girls will be in 11th grade.
Yes, to those who mentioned it, Celebs Go Dating is a British reality show, but I can see K8 jumping at a chance to visit London. Currently Courtney Stodden (age 22) is filming there. She is famous for marrying at 16 to that 50 year old guy and now divorced (is it any wonder).
Nicky said... 100 Also, I just want to add, my 11 yr old has dealt with behaviourial issues, and we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but for years, I was on high alert, but not to the detriment to my other son. As mothers, we learn how to do 10 different things at once, and sometimes, it takes 5 minutes of alone time with your kid to calm them dow **** He's very lucky that are working with him and sticking by his side as you work through his challenges.
What doesn't make sense to me, is the "gradual" change. She has stated he needs to "learn life skills, and strategies to help him deal with things". How could he have been "fine" from age 5 to maybe 9 or 10, then all of a sudden, he has no life skills?
**** Kate made the decision to keep the filming going, knowing that Colin was getting worse. First, she lied when she said everything was ok and that Colin and Alexis were both doing just fine and of course, they weren't expelled, yada yada. Then, Kate lied again about there being ZERO downside to filming and being in the public eye. ALL kids beg to film. ALL kids crying when filming stopped. Then, we know that she's been dragging Colin around for filming, bringing along minders to watch him and give him meds while the others sometimes went off to film without him.
She should be getting therapy along side of him. Her comments that he's at a place he needs to be at to get help tell me all I need to know about her - Let someone else solve that problem. She solved her problem by sending him away.
***** Kate follows the model of the sacrificial family member patient who gets put up on the alter for treatment. It's none of Kate's problem and of course, she NEVER needed therapy. Syliva LaFair was to fix Jon, not Kate.
Sorry if this has been posted, but this AOL article's posts are mostly scathing. This one in particular was very touching:
I too had a "special" child but would not have thought of her being alone without her sibling on her birthday especially knowing there was to be a special party. How cruel! I do not know what the needs are but my daughter had multiple needs and yet her sister and the family always accommodated her needs and included her. She passed in her sleep six years ago and her sister misses her dearly as do we all. Even when the older sister went away to college she made it back for her sisters birthdays etc. When the older sister got married the younger sister was her maid of honor and felt very special. When "baby" sister passed, all of my older daughters friends who grew up loving their "little tag along" attended mass and still send flowers and call during the year and on her birthday. What type of family has this woman created?
The overwhelming sentiment this birthday, WAY more than last, is that people can not believe that she wouldn't include Colin. I know, we were sickened when Kate had a blow-out, "best party ever" last year, but I really think that most people could not have fathomed a repeat of another Colin-less birthday a year later.
It's finally sinking in. Kate is not like what most people think of what a mother is. It just defies most people's experiences as children and as mothers.
I thought when ads are purchased to run on TLC, or any network such as that, the company doesn't know on what show they will be run and that they have no choice. ********************** I used to think so too, but realizes companies had choices when all the advertisers started after the JoshieBoy scandal broke. That scenario recently played out again with the Bill O'Reilly show.
I think companies buy blocks of ads to run within a certain time frame and usually they are to be split up among different within that time frame. My contention is that TLC is playing fast and loose with the companies when they air ads repeatedly within a 1 hour show--such as Kate + 8--to make up for the lack of advertisers on Counting On.
Leslie said... 127 Also,great work to Susan for contacting the Ad Executive. It sounds like it worked. ************************ Thank you. My goal is to encourage as many companies as possible to stop advertising on Counting On and Kate + 7 as that is probably the deciding factor in getting TLC to stop filming these reality show train wrecks and exploiting minor children. Or to at least make the ad revenue so low that TLC can only afford to film real life, low-budget--not the never ending vacations--updates.
Tucker's Mom (#130), remember that day last spring when TFW's People article came out, and we were all posting like mad for hours? In our wildest dreams, could we have predicted that child would still be gone more than a YEAR later, and his mother acting like her family had never been happier? We thought the fork had actually, finally been stuck in her, and she was done. How wrong we were.
(Dr. G, child psychologist said... 117 ) And how about when Adam Busby says to a quint, "I see your boobies!" and the toddler giggles and covers her bare chest. Inappropriate, no matter what the age of the child.
So funny! There is Pa Duggar wearing jeans on the beach and Michelle in black hose, ortho shoes and very long skirt with a blouse that is suppose to be tucked in.
Yes, Hawaii while poor Jana (Janerella) is stuck home taking care of all her little siblings plus all of the unmarried boys. Saw a picture of her at the cafeteria line making PANS AND PANS of pizza for lunch.
Pretty shocking that J and M would travel that far just after Jill had the baby and Jill rumored to have had major problems when she had the baby. Jill possibly still could be in the hospital or just has gotten released.
John-David and Jana are actually their siblings parents!
It's been rumored for years that William and Harry were forced to walk with their mother' casket and that William told Harry to just stare at his shoes to get through. That was even depicted in a TV movie. I think it was a tough call and it might of been a case of Charles and others worrying the boys might regret it if they didn't. In fairness I don't think anyone anticipated all the wailing that went on, like walking through a death camp. The walk ended up being disturbing on a level most people I think were shocked over to watch it let alone walk it.
Obviously the boys are now indicating it was a very bad decision for them in hindsight. I still think they need a lot more help and therapy to help them heal. These wounds are not scars as they should be 20 years out, they are festering open sores.
Earl Spencer (Diana's brother) has recently said he didn't think Diana would have wanted her sons to accompany her casket. He has said he was told by Palace 'officials' that the boys wanted to walk with him and Prince Charles. It has been said that the reason the two young princes were asked to do the walk was because police and palace 'officials' were afraid of what the crowd's reaction would be towards Prince Charles. The feeling was if Prince William and Prince Harry were with him the crowd would refrain from taking out their dislike on Prince Charles. It would appear the police were right, there was no disturbance from the crowd.
Using the boys as a buffer is really beyond the pale. That said there are legitimate reasons why a teen should participate in a funeral in some form. It can be important to healing. In this case it didn't work out. Still Charles has impressed me with his love and dedication to the boys since. He actively stepped up his game. It's been reported Catherine especially adores Charles and I think that says a lot.
Tucker's...but what if he's not allowed to come home, not even for a birthday party?
I don't know what his problem is, and apparently only a few people know, and if the professionals involved in his therapy decided that it's not in the child's best interest to be at home around Kate, or whatever is the root of his issues, then wouldn't you think that their advice should be followed?
At this point, I just don't know, and I think that only a few people close to this situation really know, and that doesn't include Milo, no matter how much communicatin' they do.
In a strange wag I almost have to give Em a little credit for being rather disturbed by the Collin situation and blabbing about it. It shows she has a conscience and recognized it was wrong.
Pretty sure Kate's buying IG followers again. The count has gone up by roughly a thousand on each of the last few days. That didn't happen after the two episodes that aired before this week's. My guess is, we're going to start seeing a lot of endorsements on her IG in the coming weeks. That's K8, easy money.
OT...Admin or maybe someone else can help me with a question. If a person has used a lawyer to apply for social security disability and has been denied twice and now is awaiting a court date, can they drop the lawyer and finish the appeal themself? Thanks ahead of time.
Layla said... 116 Vanessa (113) "In 5 years I don't know if I'll be single of not" translates (from Kate-speak to English) to, "Somebody better sign me up for a dating show RIGHT NOW before it's too late!".
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Does she really think anyone CARES about her relationship status and dating life?
If she scored a spot on a dating show, people would not want to watch the show because of her.
I doubt she'd want to go on a show like Big Brother where she has zero control over what is and isn't shown on TV and what is posted online. There would be whole highlights shows dedicated to the before, during and aftermath of her childish meltdowns over living on staples, participating in tasks, doing chores, any punishments she may receive for breaking rules and when she is nominated - which would be every week until she's finally eliminated.
OT...Admin or maybe someone else can help me with a question. If a person has used a lawyer to apply for social security disability and has been denied twice and now is awaiting a court date, can they drop the lawyer and finish the appeal themself? Thanks ahead of time.
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They may need to file a motion with the court requesting they rep themselves. Sounds funny but ask the attorney the prosedure for getting them off. They should hopefully know. Most attorneys actually don't take it personally and may even be happy to end the relationship if it's not the right match so don't be shy.
TFW may be angling for a dating show but I don't believe she is sincere about wanting to date or be in a relationship. On the clip where her, Jamie and Mady are shopping for party supplies, TFW walks by supplies for a bride to be party and says " never again".
Biographer Sally Bedell Smith has a completely different account of why William and Harry walked behind the casket. She says their GRANDFATHER was concerned they would regret it, and that they had discussions about it and the boys agreed if they did it they wanted him there.
It did seem rather odd her ex-father-in-law would walk--it does make sense he would do it to support the boys.
I think it really is one of those decisions where you make the call in that moment and hope it's the right one. We could have just as easily had Harry and William be saying why didn't they let us walk, we were robbed of that one last opportunity to be with our mum.
"The story behind the procession provides insight into the royal family dynamic ahead of the funeral. Sally Bedell Smith relays the details in her new biography of the Prince of Wales, Prince Charles. The day before the funeral, the royal family had arrived back in London after grieving privately at the queen's Scottish estate Balmoral. Bedell Smith explains that "the one lingering question about the funeral was whether William and Harry would walk in the procession behind their mother's horse-drawn gun carriage." Charles wanted his sons to walk because it was a tradition for royal men, but the boys were reluctant.
Finally, it was their grandfather, Prince Philip, who helped William and Harry make the decision. Bedell Smith writes that Prince Philip told William, "If you don't walk, you may regret it later." He went on, "I think you should do it. If I walk, will you walk with me?" Thanks to that conversation, William and Harry joined the procession at St. James's Palace, providing history with a moment we won't soon forget."
JM (#149), I didn't see the show, but I'm not surprised TFW would make a remark like that in front of her daughter. It's a blatant shot at her ex: her children's father. Like, oh, no, I would never relive the nightmare of marriage again.
But she sure didn't seem to feel that way when TLC dangled a luxury trip to Hawaii, plus a Say Yes To the Dress episode, for that vow renewal. Where she promised her children Mommy and Daddy would stay together forever, although she'd already decided the marriage was over.
Sad but true (145) She already started endorsing products on IG, which was a tip-off that something was going on with TLC. Buying more followers means she's trying to make herself look more popular so she can get more endorsements. Anything to make some cash off her fans.
Tizzie (147), She still thinks a dating show is her ace in the hold. If all else fails, dangle a dating show and see who grabs. She did the same thing in 2011, when she was much more popular than she is now, and nobody took her up on it. Why bother trying now? I guess because she can't think of anything else. She's saying the same thing now that she did 6 years ago--that the kids want her to date/marry. They're teenagers. She expects people to believe that they want her to bring some strange man into their lives after all this time and make him part of their family? That they want some outsider to invade their home and start making rules for them to follow? I think not. It's all about her desire to be on TV, and she's doing the same thing she has always done--using her kids to help her try to get a show.
I sped through the birthday special on TLC's site. A couple of things: the flashbacks did not even really show Collin; Kate wanted to give the "old and rotting" swing set to a friend's relative" How kind to give a potentially dangerous play structure to another family; the tups are well aware the twins don't like them and it seems the boys only like Hannah who is 'awesome.'The house seems so divided these days, with the kids no longer a six-pack with caring older sisters and no loving relatives or helpers..
relationship. On the clip where her, Jamie and Mady are shopping for party supplies, TFW walks by supplies for a bride to be party and says " never again". ************ 🤧😨😴 Get over yourself Sally
Tucker's Mom (#155), and doncha love the way a comment like that makes her look like a victim? Meanwhile, she's the one who got 8 kids out of him when he only wanted 2, had him as her right-hand helper even when he was working full-time away from home, turned him into Mr. Mom while she trotted across the country with another man, and then kicked him to the curb. Talk about revisionist history.
You know what else is telling about TFW's comment about the bridal party stuff? Another mother with 2 almost 17-year-old girls would more likely say something playful, like, hey, I could be buying this stuff for one of you in a few years! But when she isn't censoring herself, or reading prepared material to pretend she has a maternal bone in her body, her narcissism comes shining through.
Angelina Jolie has emerged with her single Mom tale of woe and it sounds just like Kate. Single mom Working on moving forward being healthy Being there for the kids, staying home, cooking and doing the dishes
Layla said... 153 Sad but true (145) She already started endorsing products on IG, which was a tip-off that something was going on with TLC. Buying more followers means she's trying to make herself look more popular so she can get more endorsements. Anything to make some cash off her fans. ********************* Could someone enlighten me as to how you buy Twitter followers? This is not a service that Twitter offers right? How do you know that a follower on Twitter or Instagram has been 'bought'? Wouldn't the companies be able to tell Khate has inflated her numbers?
This is an interesting article. It looks like Khate could make enough cash for some of her minor expenses, but if she's buying followers on Instagram does that also translate into 'likes' on the product she is hawking?
This is an interesting article. It looks like Khate could make enough cash for some of her minor expenses, but if she's buying followers on Instagram does that also translate into 'likes' on the product she is hawking?
As I understand it the "likes" are only on her IG post and the bots would actually have to click on the product link and "like" that also OR make a purchase from the vendor. Kate is just plumping up her followers and "likes" to make herself look popular. Any vendor or advertiser can look at an account and tell if the "likes/comments" are genuine or bots. The bots are set to automatically "like" anything that Kate posts and this doesn't migrate over to the product.
I should have said in my other post that she wouldn't command as much money for product placement because she's a D list celebrity and most of her "like" and followers are bots. Advertisers are wise to this and if they don't get the clicks advertising with her they'll drop her and word gets around. The product placements she's had so far have not been mainstream products so she got a small payment for the original product payment but won't get any more if the vendor doesn't get the "likes" or purchases when advertising on her site.
I'm anticipating a truly nauseating display of #NunuLove when she returns home. Armor up.
As for buying followers, you can just Google it and find a variety of choices for any type of social-media account. As for how you tell between those purchased and those not, for me it's always been reflected in the number of people actually liking or responding. For example, the last photo she posted on IG has just over 10K likes, which is a lot more than usual. Still, that only translates into 6% of her ostensible 167K followers. (Average likes on her photos tend to be in the 5-6K range, a mere 3% of total followers.) We know she purchased around 75-80K back in April (or thereabouts) having seen the jump pretty much overnight; and she's clearly bought at least 5K just recently. So by my reckoning, at least 50% of her 167K total are fake.
I noted the other day that I'd seen an IG photo of Jinger Duggar that had 70K likes in less than 24 hours. I doubt she buys followers just because the Duggars don't seem to do any product-hawking (leaving aside things like the Bible and the Ark Encounter, LOL). As of right now, Jinger's got 488K followers (she just joined in April!), so 70K likes (I'm sure it ended up being a lot more after the first day) on one of her photos is just over 14% of her followers, which to me would seem a reasonable number. I assume that people looking at these "celebrity" accounts for marketing purposes are wise to the follower-buying game, but we know K8's last publisher really misconstrued the strength of her fan-base by touting her "100+K" Twitter following in their advertising of the crookbook. At that time, at least half of those had been purchased. Which I don't think they realized until it was too late to cancel that 50K printing. Suckeeeers.
"Fans of Kate Gosselin, 42, and her family were shocked to see that her son Collin, one of her sextuplets, was not included in the 13th birthday celebration for his siblings that was broadcast on the family’s show Kate Plus 8 on July 24. Collin — who used to be a big part of the TLC reality TV series, along with the five other sextuplets and Kate’s twin daughters — has been noticeably absent this season after being enrolled in a program for kids with special needs in 2016. A source close to the mother of eight revealed to HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY why Colin wasn’t included in the family’s festivities.
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
^^^^^ HUH? So, stop filming. Have a normal household without chaos and screaming. This is baloney. Colin was being filmed for YEARS while he was struggling with problems. The time to have cared about filming affecting Colin was probably about when he started covering his face out in public because Kate made their family tabloid fodder and paparazzi magnets.
“Obviously the major difference between this party and every other birthday party was the fact that Collin wasn’t here,” Kate said during the party.
Every time I read this quote, it sickens me. How dare she pretend that this was the first birthday he missed! And the sheeple are too in love to notice her whitewashing of the past.
Collin’s fellow sextuplets — Aaden, Alexis, Hannah, Leah and Joel — all enjoyed the amazing party Kate threw for them to celebrate their milestone birthday back in May, which was then broadcast last night. The party featured mani/pedis for the girls and a fun scavenger hunt for the whole crew and their friends before hunkering down for a backyard camp out. “Obviously the major difference between this party and every other birthday party was the fact that Collin wasn’t here,” Kate said during the party. “Throughout this last year he has really continued struggling. It just became obvious to me that I was not able, with my own resources here, to meet his needs.”
Did Kate seriously try to pull the wool over viewers eyes and make believe this was the FIRST birthday Colin missed? OMG
I assume that people looking at these "celebrity" accounts for marketing purposes are wise to the follower-buying game, but we know K8's last publisher really misconstrued the strength of her fan-base by touting her "100+K" Twitter following in their advertising of the crookbook. At that time, at least half of those had been purchased. Which I don't think they realized until it was too late to cancel that 50K printing. Suckeeeers. ***************************** Thanks for the explanation re: buying bots on Twitter & Instagram. I hope any company Khate or her agent/road manager/Skeevie approaches about advertising on her Instagram checks out her number of followers thoroughly before wasting their money as the book publishers did.
I'm still talking to ad executives of the different companies that advertised on Monday's Counting On and have been amazed how many had a limited knowledge of the Duggar scandal and/or did not realize that Counting On is a spin off of 19 Kids & Counting. Everyone was very nice, noted my concerns and stated they would be talking to their ad agencies.
Someone upthread stated pictures of JimBoob & Babykins in Hawaii and Janarella making a meal for the tribe have been posted. Is it possible that TLC is filming a short segment the non-courting/recently married members of the Duggar family? They could use a free lance crew for the small amount of footage on JimBoob & Babykins.
Kate is a twit said... 165 Someone is trying to do damage control. Interesting that the "source" spoke to Hollywood Life and not People or Entertainment Tonight. ******************* Only 2 comments so far and they aren't buying the spin of the "exclusive source".
KIAT (#165), that source ought to tell TFW that C is flourishing, because she doesn't seem to know. Her last official comment on his progress was a year ago, when he was plodding, plugging and chugging along. This good news would've made a happy ending to that bittersweet birthday party he couldn't attend. But that flat "we notice he's not here" statement TFW choked out sure doesn't scan with this article.
"“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said."
Kate doesn't want Collin on camera because she just can't seem to act like she gives a crap about him and because he's seemed like a drugged-out zombie in the past dozen or so episodes he's appeared in. Utter bullshit from the "source." Cameras have been a significant part of this child's life since the age of three; all of a sudden at 11, they're too distracting? And what about the crew "family"? I thought everyone wanted them back. If there's any truth to this "source," then this child has been suffering for the better part of a decade. No matter how you slice it, whether or not K8 is the genesis of Collin's "issues," this version of "what's really going on" doesn't make K8 look any better than the others out there. Not if you bother to think beyond the very carefully chosen words.
Pretty shocking that J and M would travel that far just after Jill had the baby and Jill rumored to have had major problems when she had the baby. Jill possibly still could be in the hospital or just has gotten released. ------------------- I remember watching an episode of the show years ago where the whole Duggar family traveled to a large city to visit a museum. What shocked me the most is the parents were leading their pack of kids ,as both parents held hands , each of the older girls are seen juggling a baby or more each. Either with one baby in their arms while holding hands with another small child, this really gave off a "our older daughters are our servants" vibe. Both parents just continued to walk like newly weds with their backs toward the kids as if they didn't have a care in the world.M and J just can't be bothered with the hard work of raising their OWN babies. Once they were weaned, they were handed off to a "buddy" to be raised. And these older girls would sleep with the babies in their own room. They would have to wake up with the child during the night if the child was scared of the dark, or needed comforting, hungry, wet, etc. M's only job was to get pregnant and nurse her newborns. They have the money to hire help but they choose to use their older kids. Very selfish parents!
Susan1956 (#169), kudos to you for contacting those ad executives. Interesting that they didn't realize that Counting On was a Duggar spin-off. Maybe if TLC took TFW's name out of the title, it might fool more people into watching. "7 Is Enough?"
@Sad but true by saying she doesn't want Collin in front of the camera,is she admitting filming is a problem?But,i thought kate said all the kids love filming and are "happy and healthy"?I agree with Tucker this is baloney and full of crap.
Sockie on the Case @SockieWhodunit Replying to @ConcernedChick @tori_bowmam @Kateplusmy8 All the stimulation? You mean her shrieking and screaming? That's enough to put anybody on edge. #KatePlusMy8
Yeah, Mommy starts acting like a lunatic whenever she's within 100 yards of a camera. I think that would bother most people. Poor kid.
So C wasn't there. No big surprise I guess. I'd rather him be out of this mess than self-soothing to try and deal with the insanity. Did Khate spend any time with the boys or did she send them off to do something then focus on the girls (and herself)?
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
The public was literally crushed with grief. ----- The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's.
The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's.
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I don't think grief is sick or dramatic. This isn't a crush on a teen idol. It's a relationship she had with her subjects in which she made them feel loved and cared about, and was darn sincere in what she did. Diana wanted it, she wanted to be queen of people's HEARTS. With that comes a broken heart when you die.
People wailed--so what, they were sad.
In particular, those with AIDS owe he a lot. A....lot.
Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.” ******* Sooooo???RATHER than STOP FILMING she REMOVES the obstacle? TFW's "source" should just stfu.
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
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That makes it sound like it's really Collin who doesn't want to go back. If that's true, I'm honestly not surprised. It's very possible many children would find that house overwhelming, so much so they might be fine with not actually living there anymore. Sad, but real reality.
Milo found the Hollywood Life story and is now tweeting Kate about it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 39m39 minutes ago More So thought you should see this Kate? No surprise here! #Tabloids can't resist. Who gave this story? https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/m/24aa4587-6f58-3c21-b602-5206f14c8608/ss_collin-gosselin-is-reportedly.html … @Kateplusmy8
Apparently Barb Gilmer is questioning the source because Milo replied to her with:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m6 minutes ago More Replying to @BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8 Granted...the "source" may be fictitious...but SOMEONE approached this tabloid & several other rag mags w/this info!
Milo doesn't seem to realize that the "other rag mags" picked up the story from Hollywood Life. The Yahoo story links to an In Touch story which then links to the HL story.
I swear Kate treats Nanuq like a toy instead of a pet. There's a bonus video posted on TLC.com, and it shows Nanuq with her coat dyed pink. Totally pink!! She did it for the birthday party but yet in an IG post dated July 10, you could still see the pink fur.
Sooooo???RATHER than STOP FILMING she REMOVES the obstacle? TFW's "source" should just stfu.
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And, when you look at the filming she gave up Collin for, it's pretty pathetic. A couple trips in off season to "meh" places in the dead of summer. A couple days of skiing. One small season, a second even smaller season. With all signs suggesting no more at least not for awhile.
At the end of the day, a couple days of skiing and some beaches for the price of a kid.
We said all along this woman is evil, and it was true all along.
"Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
I hope he is happy wherever he is. It's a shame Kate wouldn't stop filming because of him. It's also a shame she caused the chaos and even encourages it.
I think a pink rinse on natural blonde hair is one of the hardest colors to get out. I know that when I put pink in my hair for a show I was in (many years ago) it seemed like I was pink forever. What I noticed about the video was that #NookiePookie had to be kept on leash because she was nervous about everything going on...that and she was pulling TFW so I'm guessing she's not trained to walk in a heel or close.
"“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said."
Kate doesn't want Collin on camera because she just can't seem to act like she gives a crap about him and because he's seemed like a drugged-out zombie in the past dozen or so episodes he's appeared in.
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The real story is probably the service providers refused to allow him on camera any more or they'd call CPS so she had no choice to comply. Let's be real.
I see Kate herself played the "lack of resources" card, lol, as she sits in her 1 percent huge mansion in one of the wealthiest areas of the state near some of the best intensive service providers in the country, even world. I wonder if the troll the other day was Kate claiming no resources in southern PA. Slapping my thigh, that's a good one!
No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading.
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EXACCTTTLY. You don't get to this point overnight, and the years and years she ignored or minimized the problem and kept shoving him in front of the cameras she is responsible for.
OT. I can't believe this woman is still around/is back. Locked in a swanky hotel in Bel Aire with her toughest cases. Khate should have done a crossover show with her years ago if she was truly serious about finding love. Not. But I'd love to see Khate locked away somewhere.
JM (#149), I didn't see the show, but I'm not surprised TFW would make a remark like that in front of her daughter. It's a blatant shot at her ex: her children's father. Like, oh, no, I would never relive the nightmare of marriage again.
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Absolutely it is, and the kids are well old enough to get the reference.
Good parents always make sure kids know they don't regret the marriage or the time together, and that of course they would never regret it when such great kids came out of it. Chances are kids of divorce are going to wonder and ask how their mom or dad feels about the marriage. That's what a NORMAL parent would say and sincerely feel in response.
And I will state this again - she has had YEARS with 8 kids to learn how to multi task, get a meal together, pack for a vacation (lots of practice there), and to this day she still can't handle the stress?? How do her sheeple not see this??
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And let's not forget, she's been a stay at home mom for a decade. Can you imagine how many moms with special needs kids could only dare dream of having the amount of extra time she does to devote to attending to a child who needs you? Having a child with special needs and a full time job is very difficult.
"The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's"
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Sick on who's part? Are you saying millions of people who grieved Diana's death were sick as in 'mentally ill' for expressing their emotions for a beautiful and compassionate young woman who was duped into marriage just so she could produce an heir or two! Diana was the perfect beard for Charles & Camilla. She was used from day one. The Queen had to be shamed into coming back to London and SHAMED into lowering the flag at Buck house. The 'Royal'(ha!) family also had to be shamed into giving Diana a state funeral because they no longer consider her worthy since Liz rescinded Diana's HRH title and pulled her security. They loathed her for being 'normal' not worthy and most of all for not going away quietly. Diana was loved very much by the people and the 'firm' was crazy with jealousy - especially Charles!
Layla said... 195 The camera overstimulates Collin, so the choice was to either get rid of the camera or get rid of Collin. We all know which she chose. ========= Exactly and this needs to be shouted from the rooftops. How anyone can still fall for her BS is beyond me.
The only sick thing is the way western culture and British culture think grief is such a taboo. Maybe if Prince William and Prince Harry felt free to wail and moan when their mother died that wouldn't have such unresolved emotions 20 years later. I understand the funeral was hard for them. It's not supposed to be fun. But I also think it gave them an understanding of just how much their mother was loved and how important it was that that carry on her legacy. Of that I know they are grateful.
NJGal51 (#197), and how about that annual "vote" on whether or not to continue filming, that was supposed to be unanimous? What nonsense. A good mother would have just shut the whole thing down when her young son's health and welfare was being so negatively impacted by the stress and chaos of filming.
Yesterday on Judge Judy, Judy tore this one mom up who had put her child into foster care at the age of 10 because she was a disciple problem. Basically said she was a bad mother, you don't send your child away for behavior issues, etc...If you know Judge Judy, I'm sure you can imagine! She also HATES mothers trying to alienate the father, hates it. She says fathers have as much of a right to a child as the mother does.
She'd rake Kate over the coals. I'd pay to see that.
Back to the Mady comment: I think she knows how to manipulate the situation. Her 'good' behavior is for the purpose of showing her mother up, how unreasonable and irrational she is. I think sadly Mady is truly a mini-me of Kate.
As for the dogs, isn't Nu-Nu a silly nickname? Like Shokies. Dying the dog pink also is a dumb even cruel thing to do.
NOIP @ 196 - You are so right about Prince Charles being jealous of Diana and her popularity with people. What an insecure man he is. Instead of being proud of her, he complained that crowds turned out to see her rather than him.
He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
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He always acted so tickled pink that Jackie was such a hit. He was proud of her, and loved to see her bask in the limelight, and do good works with it. Instead of resenting her popularity, he embraced it, saw it as good for the country. I think a big part of what split Charles and Diana up was he really just couldn't hack it being "and her husband."
I think some people just have jealous personalities, and perhaps it's a case of something from their childhood or just needing some therapy to not be so resentful of others all the time. Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate.
There are two ways to view life. A fixed pie, where if one person takes a piece of pie, nobody else can ever make up for that piece--therefore, ya get mad. Or, the better way--the chocolate factory machine, where just because somebody is gobbling up a bunch of chocolates coming out doesn't mean there won't be anything left for you.
I really don't understand why Kate has to separate the girls vs the boys for every activity. Kate said on the interview couch that the girls wanted to have a glamorous birthday while the boys wanted to "struggle to survive". But Alexis lit up at the thought of joining the boys camping and said manicures aren't her thing. After all it is HER birthday too
I agree. But the boys didn't seem to want their sister involved in 'their' camping party anyway and I can understand that. But Alexis is different from H and L, and although each girl seemed to have one special guest, Alexis is into nature, animals and things the other girls think are 'weird' or gross.If it were one big camping party I think everyone could have had fun together- campfire, the archery game, food hunt, tent-pitching,swimming, maybe crafts ( although the girls would not go in the pool with the boys).Glam station optional!
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The difference between now and 2011 is that TLC didn't announce a cancellation. If they did, that would open the door for her to start another "piecing and patching" media tour. But all they said is they would like to catch up for LIMITED runs in the future--but nothing to announce right now. That leaves Kate in quite a pickle--she doesn't want to admit that they dumped her yet again (that would be a big hit to her ego), but she wants the media attention she might get from playing victim. What to do, what to do??? The game plan seems to be frantically scrambling to line up something new before reality hits. It would be harder to sell the family if she calls attention to the fact that she's unemployed again. There's no competition with other networks, nobody needs to entice them away from TLC with higher pay or perks, and less attention will be drawn to the show's low ratings. If she can't line something up soon, she will probably start the media rounds to cry over her impoverished status.
It definitely had a series finale feel. As others have noted, the bringing back of old "friends," aka characters. Ashley and Kate didn't interact and were literally in different camps. And good ol' Steve...
The VERY last scene of an episod about the quints birthday was Kate talking about being ready to date. Huh? What does that have to do with anything? My guess? Not a dating show, but a Steve and Kate show. Fans appreciated their Odd Couple-like banter, while "haters" appreciated Kate being called out. I feel confident they'll be coming out soon. That scene of tgem and the ending scene were chosen for a reason, not coincidence.
Other notes: 1) How sad that Alexis wanted to be with the boys, but couldn't because she's a girl. So she spent her party with her mean sisters because her "mother" has gender role issues. 2) Getting rid of the swingset was THE biggest F you to Jon, and as someone who has lost a parent and all grandparents, it disgusted me. Jon's late dad gave them that swingset, and he wasn't even mentioned. Kate has no soul.
Dmasy....re Prince William and Catherine. I read years ago that William, his family, Catherine's family and their friends have always called Catherine by her full name. It was the media that nicknamed her Kate with a K even though her name is spelt with a C.
Hey Kate--here's your avenue. That is if the series is renewed for a second season. And it's even produced by TLC!!
https://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-newsroom/tlc-takes-a-chance-on-love-with-new-relationship-series-the-spouse-house-premiering-on-sunday-july-9th-at-109c/
TLC has quite a few new shows coming up this fall, The Little Couple is returning, and Trading Spaces comes back in the beginning of next year.
If they film Kate and the kids at all, I think it will be only for limited "seasons" like the current one that just finished. They'll throw her in when it suits TLC's needs, not hers.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 3
I was just wondering how Jodi and Beth feel when they see those children as 13 year olds. I imagine it's painful to have been such a big part of their childhoods, and to have been swiffered from their lives.
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I wonder what pain they must feel with Colin sent away from his home. It has to be very emotional, especially when all they can do is sit by and watch.
I see Milo's butting in again replying to tweets that were directed only to Kate. She replied to this tweet about 35 minutes after it was posted. She could have least given Kate some time to answer. Since Kate replied to several of her tweets last night, I guess she feels like she can play "press secretary" again.
The Twinning Podcast @twinningpod 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 We'd love to get you on our podcast and talk multiples!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @twinningpod @Kateplusmy8
Your best bet is to e-mail her.... :)
Hey Milo, if you're going to act as Kate's spokesperson, don't you think it might have been a good idea to actually let this tweeter know what Kate's email is? Just because you have it etched in your head doesn't mean that the whole world has that information.
#Dolt
Avenue = dating show
I've been catching up on all the interesting comments on last night's show. I'm looking forward to Admin's recap. I notice Steve appears to have got himself screen time. My question would be, if he is 'only' her security person why would she need security if all the activity took place on her property, where ordinarily she shouldn't need him.
Obviously I didn't watch so maybe his appearance was for other reasons, possibly to explain he is much closer to her that she has up until now acknowledged.
Good to know, from reading the TLC comments, that we are not alone in expressing concern for Collin.
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Ratings! 801,000.
So, this 3-episode "series" has been:
Episode 1 918,000
Episode 2 781,000
Episode 3 801,000
Season average: 833,000
It's been 18 months since any episode of K+8 has broken a million viewers. And it doesn't look like that losing streak is going to change.
JR (#13), yep, you're using your TFW/English translator there! She's so transparent. She's said she's too busy to meet someone. But she's up for it if you give her a show that'll take up all her time to film, and will keep her away from her 7 little albatrosses. What man wouldn't want a swell gal like that?
Yes that comment about having the avenue was very odd....that's a strange way to describe your future mate...and was also bizarre the way she just brought it up out of thin air like that....god she's so obvious.....the only thing she's interested in is money
Re old friends and family who've been banished, I bet that either Beth or Jodi would have willingly stepped in to take Collin, regardless of his "issues." The fact that she doesn't seem to have involved even his father speaks volumes about her motives. She simply can't be seen as the one who failed this child. Obviously, Kate's needs trump everyone's, as always.
Great news on the ratings. A 0.22 share and 39th-ranked cable program. Kate has only herself to blame here. Despite all her proclamations about how she's changed and mellowed, all anyone seems to be able to talk about is what a red-hot mess she is. I think she thought she was funny. That's how out of touch with reality she is.
BTW, Duggars' part 2 "after party" had 1.18mm viewers. So, again, a third of the viewers of that show changed the channel when she came on, nearly 400K. I don't think the trend could be any clearer.
For some reason, TLC "updated" the cover photo on their K8 FB page again a few hours ago. It's the same picture that had been up there prior to about a month ago, so I have no idea why they bothered.
This is the same woman who's been making comments about why Collin's in a facility and for how long. Is it possible she works at this place? If so, she should lose her job. She's all over the FB page.
Mandi Mendoza He is in a rehab facility till hes 18. The kids arent allowed to visit . Kate gets 1 visit a month. So im sure she did something with him. But while he is getting treatment the other children still deserve a party
Mandi Mendoza He only gets one call a month with Kate and she gets 1 visit a month
Who thinks K8 actually visits or talks with him by phone once a month? Show of hands?
And here she is again:
Mandi Mendoza Court sentenced him to inpatient facility till he qas 18
Court??? "Sentenced"???
Well the kids are "annoyed" because TFW is still single so someone will just have to put her on a dating show, i.e., give her an "avenue" to meet someone. Maybe they can do an updated Dating Game and one of the bachelors behind the screen can be Steve.
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Ratings! 801,000.
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Their 13th birthday got less viewers than their 12th birthday, which had 869,000 viewers.
I think more people were tuned out because it was the second birthday party without Collin. It also didn't help that she was a raving lunatic during the Halloween party and people probably thought it was just be more of the same thing.
Ratings are consistently mediocre. Almost 200,000 viewers tuned out after Counting On. I think people are finally over the Gosselins and the Duggars.
Part of the problem is how out of time the episodes were. Who wants to see Halloween and winter skiing during the hottest month of the year? Only the birthday episodes (the tups 10, 11, & 13 and her 40th) were turned around in a reasonable time.
Given that not one episode of this limited season broke 1 million viewers I hope the scripted filming will now be done and we'll see a casual annual update at most.
Only time will tell and I'm not counting anything out yet. I'll feel a lot more confident if we can get to the end of January without anything new on TV. Surely any additional footage they may get this summer or the twins' birthday in October would be shown by then if they are filmed.
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380,000 viewers turned the channel after Counting On, not 200,000. And there has not been a single episode that has broken a million since January 2016. People are so over the Gosselins.Reality TV, as a whole, is not what it used to be. A few years ago these shows got 2-3 million viewers--or more--per episode. But even with the overall downturn, K+8 has fared worse than all the rest.
Kate needs an "avenue" for dating? Well, let's see, what has she tried so far? A friend has arranged one blind date for her, and...that's it. So it's not like she's exhausted every "avenue" out there. What she means is, if she's going to date, she wants to be on TV and she wants a paycheck for it. Isn't she just so darn special? Other women sign up for Match.com, but she needs to make money off of it. Good luck with that. Nobody wants to watch Kate, no matter what she does. In fact, there's a lot of people saying that they'd rather she wasn't on her current show; that it was just the kids without her. What makes her think people would tune in to see her without the kids when they don't even want to see her WITH the kids?
MikeB said... 23
Ratings are consistently mediocre. Almost 200,000 viewers tuned out after Counting On.
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Actually, it was 379,000 who turned her off after the Duggars. But who's counting, eh? :)
Sad but true said... 19
For some reason, TLC "updated" the cover photo on their K8 FB page again a few hours ago. It's the same picture that had been up there prior to about a month ago, so I have no idea why they bothered.
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They removed the part that said "Mondays 10/9c"
And there has not been a single episode that has broken a million since January 2016
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The last episode that got over a million viewers was the Blind Date episode with 1.079 million.
Maybe that's why Kate brought up dating. Perhaps TLC told her that the show's ratings suck, and Kate figured if she had more dating episodes or a show about her dating, they'd have more viewers.
Layla,
You are correct in the 380,000 number. I don't know where my brain was. That makes it even worse. She's lost the better part of half-a-million viewers from Counting On each week.
Coat tailing on the Royal Family discussion, here's a piece some may find interesting. Prince Harry is very candid talking about his struggles after his mother's death.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/16/prince-harry-sought-counselling-death-mother-led-two-years-total/
Latest comment on the last IG photo. It doesn't even seem that far-fetched.
luckyautumnn Quit asking about Collin, she gave him up for adoption. He was too unruly and didn't follow her rules
KIAT (#26), too bad TLC never bothered to update the name of the show to K + 7.
That crazy Nick person is female. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it. Men don't rant like that. They just go outside on the baseball field or court, and play with their balls.
TLC just posted a "bonus" scene over on the K8 FB. The twins doing party shopping. Must have been the last hurrah on the limitless credit card.
Cara's stalker is still at it.
Anthony Salomone Ok I am tired of some of some people comments about Kate and how she rude and nasty and how Cara and Mady are brats if u guys don't like her or Mady or Cara then here the thing don't watch the show very simple and by the way Cara is very shy and very quiet that's how she's always been
I certainly hope Mr. Head of Security has scoped this guy out to ensure he's not going to be trouble.
Sentenced him???? Did he commit a crime? Is that the right terminology....and why is there a judge involved? Hmmmm. This is getting more disturbing by the minute
Nobody's gonna give this idiot a dating show...been hearing this since Jon passed on...she never stops! I honestly think she never wants to get married again and frankly I don't think she likes men very much and is much happier without one in her life...
Geez, by the time C comes home, he won't even look the same! He will have gotten a lot taller and have a deeper voice. He left a child and will come back a teenager. Kate is missing out on raising this smart, kind, funny, beautiful boy. I understand going away for treatment, but the length of time he's been gone now is getting ridiculous. After so long you would think he would be well enough to transition to outpatient care. She'd rather have teachers/counselors/residential staff raise her son than his own father. Each day that goes by with him gone is one day more Kate misses of her son's childhood. She will never get these days back. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and I'm sure the extended family is wishing they could raise him. Kate should bring him home and hire a live-in care provider if she needs help. There's nothing wrong with getting help, but bring this poor boy home to be with his siblings, and let him see his grandparents, Beth, Jodi, his aunts, uncles, cousins and his own father.
Ana (#36), great comment. I don't know if I've seen your name before, but if you're new here, welcome!
Kate needs to realize the twins are both affected by having their brother gone so long. I noticed Cara wasn't on the bday episode, and Mady was nicer than she has been in the past...probably nervous she will be sent away like her brother. Poor kids. Bless their hearts.
Hi all! I missed this extravaganza by accident, if I had known I would have missed it on purpose! Honestly, this sounds soooo boring.
I did think about the former Mrs Jon Gosselin few days ago, while reading about my favorite guilty summer pleasure, Big Brother! Came across an announcement about Jeff Schroeder who was on Big Brother twice, seasons 11 and 13. Jeff will be a host on a daily show, http://www.tegna.com/tegna-announces-host-lineup-fall-premiere-date-for-daily-blast-live/
Fans like him, and he has a good reputation of being very easy to work with. He won fan favorite both seasons he was on. Jeff and Jordan, who he met on Big Brother and had a "showmance" with, went on to get married and have a baby. Being on Big Brother led to many career opportunities with CBS, multiple appearances on different shows, and hosting online content, interviews, and more.
He and Jordan were on The Amazing Race and a reality star edition of Marriage Boot Camp. He was on a reality star edition of Price is right. He is an example of how you can turn a reality show appearance into more opportunity.
tfmjg was on Dancing With The Stars and could have done so much more IF she had been nice to work with. One more opportunity she wasted.
Thanks, FlimsyFlamsy! :)
TFW is not getting any love from people commenting on the Daily Mail article. The comments are brutal.
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18?? That's FIVE years from now...omg..and I guarantee he will go live on his own after that...he will never be in that house again...assuming all that is true
Here are some articles
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/kate-gosselin-gets-emotional-while-053700539.html
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-celebrates-sextuplets-birthday-without-collin/?utm_source=internaltraffic&utm_medium=internaltraffic&utm_campaign=kategosselin
http://people.com/tv/kate-gosselin-sextuplets-13th-birthday-bittersweet-without-collin/
I'm quite skeptical of that Mandi Mendoza who's posting those comments about Collin on FB. She just makes statements and doesn't reply to any questions addressed to her as to how she knows so much about Collin.
According to her FB page she lives in Dover, DE, so how would she know anything at all about what's going on with Collin?
I think she's just someone who wants to act like she's in the know but has no clue about anything.
I'm taking it with a grain of salt and suggest others do the same.
Each day that goes by with him gone is one day more Kate misses of her son's childhood. She will never get these days back. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and I'm sure the extended family is wishing they could raise him. Kate should bring him home and hire a live-in care provider if she needs help. There's nothing wrong with getting help, but bring this poor boy home to be with his siblings, and let him see his grandparents, Beth, Jodi, his aunts, uncles, cousins and his own father.
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What if it's an acute behavior problem with violent tendencies and you'd have to lock the kids' bedroom doors at night, as well as your own door? He'd need round the clock supervision to make sure that he's not a danger to himself and the rest of the family.
The thing is that we just don't know how severe his issues really are. Maybe I watch too many true murder/crime shows, but you just never know what can happen.
" Since Kate replied to several of her tweets last night, I guess she feels like she can play "press secretary" again."
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It's all she has in her life. It makes her feel so important, and that's pathetic.
That crazy Nick person is female. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it. Men don't rant like that. They just go outside on the baseball field or court, and play with their balls.
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OMG, now that's funny! Hilarious, but true!
JusticeForCollin @Sassccha 2h2 hours ago
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Replying to @Sassccha @ANightMessenger and 2 others
2) K8 & @TLC furious when Jon left; conspired to make his life a living Hell .. Court suggested downsizing but K8 sneered at "mediocre Life"
When did the court suggest to Kate that she downsize? I know I've missed a lot, but I don't remember that.
@KIAT I don't trust any random facebook poster who claims to know anything about whats going on with the gosselins.They are about as reliable as any of Kate's loyal fans who claim to have a close personal relationship with Kate.
Ana said... 36
Couldn't agree more. Glad you've joined us. :)
Wow, she's being eviscerated on the Daily Mail piece. And rightfully so. No one is buying what she's selling.
Devil's Advocate here. If Kate were advised by therapists, physicians and/or psychologists to put Collin into a treatment facility and she ignored that advice, and heaven forbid he caused something to happen to one or more of his siblings, what then? Would she be chastised for not listening to professional advice but rather kept him at home because that's where he belonged...with his family?
Mady was nicer than she has been in the past...probably nervous she will be sent away like her brother.
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Yes, Mady was nicer than she's been in a long time but I don't think she's afraid of being sent away. She knows TFW's currency and rules the roost. On the other hand, if TFW had been moaning and groaning about what they're going to do if the show goes away, Mady may have been on her best behavior due to the guilt trip TFW may have laid on her.
Is there a link for the Daily Mail article? TYIA.
(ncgirl #43) You missed the most scathing one:
"Kate has been complaining about Collin since he was a little boy. Being singled out by a tyrant like Kate Gosselin, who treats her children like prisoners according to reports, would have a profound impact on a developing boy. Though we wouldn't expect to see the full psychological impact until years after the children have all escaped from her grasp."
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2017/06/collin-gosselin-missing-from-his-own-birthday-party/
"Is there a link for the Daily Mail article? TYIA"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4729184/Kate-Gosselin-misses-son-sextuplet-s-13th-birthday.html
NJGal51 said... 53
Here you go:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4729184/Kate-Gosselin-misses-son-sextuplet-s-13th-birthday.html
OMG Milo.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Didn't get opportunity 2ask this last nite...#QuestionsDuringTweetSession But will you ever come back to twitter? Say YES? :) @Kateplusmy8
Kate left Twitter for a reason. Yes, the harassment, but also all those annoying people she now follows due to her little tweet-party game. The very last thing she wants is to come back to Twitter. And besides, you have all those other ways of communicatin'.
Sad but true (#57), Gladys is already going through withdrawal. She had such a thrilling hour last night (after ditching the seniors she was going to help), but she knows the show ending for the season means less and less contact from TFW. And she needs her fix.
I sure wish they had shown Steve and the kids interacting since he was there to teach them compass skills! Would have been interesting to to see the interaction ,meaning do they act like they respect him, like him,or just ignore him. The show was a waste of time again, so happy that I won't torture myself by watching any more and hope the only news coming from that family is only good that they are living a private life and Collin is doing just fine! And Milo gets a grandbaby soon so she can focus on someone else, and we all live happily ever after!!!
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Didn't get opportunity 2ask this last nite...#QuestionsDuringTweetSession But will you ever come back to twitter? Say YES? :) @Kateplusmy8
She is freaking nuts. Funny, but insane and very weird.
This has to be a catfishing man, doesn't it?
Anyone notice how oddly TFW pronounced compass the first 4-5 times? But later in the show she had it right.
Kahm-puss vs come-pus
Just some comments:
Kate said later in the show that if she thought of a good idea than she would have a big tup party next year. So even though she said at one point about no more birthday parties until they turned 16 she later threw in the above comment.
Also I thought it was very revealing that Steve point blank said on camera that Kate was disorganized. We have all talked about this for years. We all thought Kate's talk about her being so organized was a bunch of crap and apparently it is. She is a fake as they come. Oh,please we see every episode how disorganized she is!
But what was really telling and shocking is Kate did NOT say that Collin was missed. She only said that they notice he is missing. That is a night and day difference.
She should have never filmed last year or this year's birthday party for the tups. The family should have a private celebration with all EIGHT of the kids.
Also Kate has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is totally boring on a date. So I highly doubt there would be a dating show with her staring in it. And IF her kids are truly begging her to date it is only because Kate is the one that is throwing the idea in their faces repeatedly.
Also I thought the statement from TLC was rather encouraging with regards to filming the Gosslins in the future. No, I don't think she will have regular full seasons but I certainly think TLC will be there to film a few times a year. "As the kids get older, they clash more with Mom. Douglas mentions the mini season’s “8 against Kate” vibe.
She hopes there will be more Kate Plus 8. “We’ve followed the family for 11 years and we love them,” said Douglas. “We are very invested in this family.”
I did not think that last night's show with Steve, Jamie, and Ashley was a hint that this was a goodbye show in the least. I think they were all there because they were needed to be there. Steve for the compass and to hide all the food. And Ashley and Jamie to assist with the large amount of guests and the two separate parties that were thrown (one for the boys and girls).
Anyone notice how oddly TFW pronounced compass the first 4-5 times? But later in the show she had it right.
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The way many words are pronounced in this neck of the woods sounds very strange to others!
If Kate were advised by therapists, physicians and/or psychologists to put Collin into a treatment facility and she ignored that advice, and heaven forbid he caused something to happen to one or more of his siblings, what then? Would she be chastised for not listening to professional advice but rather kept him at home because that's where he belonged...with his family?
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Kate should be chastened because the public should not know anything about Collin's problems. Why should the entire world know that this child has severe behavioral problems. First we find out he was kicked out of kindergarten and now many, many years later we find out he has not lived at home for a long time. The only reason we do is because of his idiot, selfish Mother. Remember Kate went on ET with Mary Hart and the Today show when he was kicked out of kindergarten. Then she was on the cover of People magazine last year announcing his problems and how he was sent away. Had she never filmed over 150 episodes about his life over the past 11 years the public would NEVER has criticized her. So Kate deserves all the speculation and criticism for what she does or does not do with regards to Collin.
I went to TLC facebook to read the comments and they had posted this boring piece. Oh yes, they did go shopping again for the party. They really need to start filming different stuff.
https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/party-shopping?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=TLC&utm_medium=social&utm_content=DCIobj%20-%20Short%20Form&sf100881062=1
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I wanted to post the list of advertisers for Counting On last night, but had to go out of town today. I'm back and there were some interesting differences between last week's list and this week. Some quick observations first.
Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David. Now this is pure speculation on my part, but John-David looks a lot like Josh--maybe JimBoob thought it best to delay his storyline for a while and he may even be holding out hope of a double wedding with John-David & Jana--aww, the twins find their soulmate(s) at the same time. I hope John-David fires up his airplane soon and flies himself and Jana away from this creepy cult. JimBoob and Babykins make a brief appearance and JimBoob states he expects to have at least 100 grandchildren based on his expectation that each of the 19 kids will have at least 5 kids each. Good News Anna--you're done! Run! Babykins recites her lines, then spends her time making goo-goo eyes at Spurgeon or the new baby. At the time Counting On The Aftershow was filmed, Joy-Anna and Austin had been married 26 days and had only returned home 2 days prior to the filming. So they had a 2 week honeymoon in Switzerland and according to Joy-Anna they were accompanied by 8 TLC crew members. How does TLC justify this kind of expense with less advertisers? No wonder Khate gave TLC the finger last week---the Duggar children are getting all her overseas trips.
As always, the episode starts with a 1 1/2 minute or so recap of the season's episodes.
1st round of commercials
1. Outdaughtered
2. Kidnap--Aviron Pictures
3. Taco Bell
4. Command Hooks
5. *Local company
6. Culver's
7. *Local company (same one--2)
8. Hair Goddess
2nd round of commercials
9. 'Up next--Counting On'
10. I Am Jazz
11. Progressive
12. Boss Baby--Dreamworks movie
13. Spectrum
14. Lorissa's Kitchen
15. 90 Day Fiance
16. Princess Diana: Tragedy or Treason
3rd round of commercials
17. Loooonnnnngggg promo for Meet the Putnams--the 26 person/3 generation family living under 1 roof
18. VERY! short promo for Kate + 8 season finale
19. Taco Bell (2)
20. Kidnap (2)
21. The Company Store.com
22. *Local company
23. Outdaughtered
24. I Am Jazz
We're done! Show ends with next season promo for Counting On from 9:58--10:00
Just a quick review of my notes indicates at least 2-3 (depending on if you count the 'up next' promos for Counting On), less national advertisers and more local advertisers. I live in a city with a nationally recognized children's hospital and a CPS agency that has had multiple child abuse cases that have made the national news, so I do call and tweet both the local and national advertisers for both the Duggar lovefest and Khate's house of horrors. I like to think it helps, but the difference in the advertisers may just be coincidence.
I wonder if Cara and Mady have any interest in dating? I don't recall any mention of them going to any school dances or anything. I think that is weird. I assume they are entering their junior year.
What year are the tups entering? I never can remember.
Just saw an article about Kate on Daily Mail Facebook. People are leaving comments wondering if C is even still alive.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but did the kids have friends at this party?
Steve admitting on camera that TFW is disorganized seems to be proof positive that she has no editorial control of the show. That was a big reveal. I remember them preparing for their Disney trip years ago, and M looked at all the supplies they were taking and said something like, "My mother is very organized." But methinks the TLC production assistants were very organized.
Sad that C was the one always covering his face for the paps. Now whenever he gets out from wherever he's been, they will really want to try and get photos.
Greta Sophia said... 71
Sad that C was the one always covering his face for the paps. Now whenever he gets out from wherever he's been, they will really want to try and get photos.
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It's going to be a big story when Colin is allowed to rejoin society and when those kids are not under Kate's control of narrative any longer.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 70
Steve admitting on camera that TFW is disorganized seems to be proof positive that she has no editorial control of the show.
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Seems more and more like the RV episode where TLC decides to pull back the curtain and let's the viewer in the the joke.
But what was really telling and shocking is Kate did NOT say that Collin was missed. She only said that they notice he is missing. That is a night and day difference.
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Not only that, but what Kate did say is that SHE is comforted.
Well, that's been obvious every since Collin went buh-bye.
She should have never filmed last year or this year's birthday party for the tups. The family should have a private celebration with all EIGHT of the kids.
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I so agree. Everything from these lavish birthdays to trips being filmed and televised-along with her LOVE for her dogs-should be private and not televised to the world.
It is so cruel.
You know what occurs to me when Kate continues to say that the kids want her to date and marry? I think what might be closer to the truth is that the kids want Steve and Kate to come out as a couple and commit to each other, instead of this hiding and obfuscating and duping the public because it's financially expedient.
The kids know what's going on for years and years now.
No married guy goes on vacation with a single mother and her kids unless it's in the strictest of professional capacity.
That hasn't been the case with Steve for a very long time.
When I saw how Steve handled pizza gate, that told me everything I needed to know. He had a golden opportunity to shut down her outburst and just tell her, don't worry about me or the pizza, I'll figure something out for lunch, it's no big deal. He chose not to. Instead Kate ended up very upset at several people, and all those people ended up very upset too, and it was just bad.
Lest we forget, pizza gate was all about Kate being upset that STEVE was "wronged."
I didn't watch Diana's funeral. I just taped it for posterity and put the tape away.
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In hindsight, I almost regret watching every moment of it. As I recall, we were still not back to school yet, so we stayed home and watched it all.
William and I are a month apart in age, and the shock of the situation of knowing intimately just how young he was and how much you still need your parents at that age, was deeply disturbing to me. I remember looking at William nearly the whole time and trying to imagine what that must feel like, not only losing your mum but having to lose her so publicly. It was just upsetting. I think my own mother was having a tough time of it too, just trying to imagine disappearing on your kids at that age, with her own kids William's age and a year younger than Harry.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
The public was literally crushed with grief.
Remember how attached A was to Beth, and TFW described Beth as his "second mommy?" I'd like to think that as adults, some of the G kids will try to connect with these women, who, as TFW put it, loved the family "for all the right reasons." And were cast aside for all the wrong ones.
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Some will, and that's a comfort, because it will be hard to explain what they've been through to someone who wasn't ever there or doesn't really know their mother. I think the kids may very well re-connect with some of the discarded people in their lives as the kids grow up and get to make their own decisions about who will be around them. And since so many of the trashed friends and family seemed like very good people, that is good.
The thing that has always bothered me, was the fact that if C was this bad, and needed to be sent to a facility, 12 is a little late to be dealing with the issue. From what Kate has stated, most issues seem behavioural. While I'm glad he's getting help, these issues were probably always there. I guess treatment would have thrown a wrench into filming a couple hundred episodes.
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We never thought the show was ending for good, based on the TLC statement--just that they are taking a break for awhile. And the "limited runs" in the future will be more like this mini-season and less like the 8-episode seasons of the past couple years. Something happened as far as this show is concerned--TLC gave it very little publicity for these past two seasons, cut this season very short, and didn't contract for another one to come at some point in the future. They are pretty much over it, based on appearances. But the tups will still have milestones in the coming years, and no doubt TLC will want to try to cash in on them. The lady who gave the statement is a producer for K+8, so of course she will be pushing to keep one of "her" shows. It might just end up having very limited runs. It looks like TLC learned its lesson for trying to turn it back into a regular show.
Nicky said... 80
The thing that has always bothered me, was the fact that if C was this bad, and needed to be sent to a facility, 12 is a little late to be dealing with the issue.
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Precisely. What, exactly, was happening between the ages of 5 and 10? He was on camera for all of the episodes filmed during that period, with no apparent issues. Was he getting help all that time and the public just didn't know about it? Was there a "diagnosis" that demanded he be provided extra help/therapy and she just didn't say anything? We know with some measure of certainty that he was taking some sort of medication during this period. But outside of that, there was nothing that would be obvious to the viewer, EXCEPT for K8's attitude towards him, which in context always seemed inexplicable and harsh.
Jon needs to demand to know where his son is, even if that means going on national television begging Kate. He needs to do whatever it takes!! If he were my child I would've done a heck of a lot more to find him than what Jon Gosselin is doing.
Yes, I bet people like Nana Janet and Beth, Aunt Jodi and Kevin are all so worried about Collin and the other kids too. I do hope the connection is there or re-established later on although maybe the twins see them as toxic people as they do their own father.
Now the remaining kids will see they can get out of filming by just refusing to be on camera like their sister C did in the last episode. Her show is over.
Nicky (#80), THIS. TFW admitted it was a gradual change in C's behavior that got worse. And what was she doing during that time? Hauling him around the country with cameras in his face, leaving him in other people's care for long periods of time, and depriving his father the opportunity to intervene. No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
The public was literally crushed with grief.
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Yes! This is what I remember the most. Especially once they got to the part of the boys walking behind the casket. I was watching with my sister, and we talked about how horrible it must be for them to hear the wailing of some people. And it was wailing! I think I read in the last week or so, Harry made a comment about how could they think it would be healthy to put a 12 yr old through that.
They held back so much emotion for their age. Maybe it was shock, or compliance to being a royal. They were trotted out in front of crowds less than 12 hrs after she died (going to church), and then back in London, greeting and shaking hands of the public. No wonder they have had a tough time over these years processing their feelings.
I haven't watched the special, but I think the CBC here is airing it soon.
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
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What got me was Will and Harry walking behind the procession, heads down and the flowers on top of the casket with the white card with To: Mummy written on it!
What got me even more is when Will and Harry went to the crowd and the WOMEN were so crushed and anguished for them. I remember one lady with a scarf on her head and she got her hands and put them on Will's face. She was so upset.
People in the crowd throwing flowers hoping they would land on the car.
The flowers were piling up in huge piles outside the gate that the UK ran out of flowers. They had to ship flowers from Israel.
The British public wanted the Queen to lower the Union Jack at half-mass. Here is the link to the article:
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9709/04/diana.royals.under.fire/
Heartbreaking!
Nicky (80)
Not to mention, if C was so bad off that he needed to be institutionalized, he should never have been forced to work. Imagine a child who was struggling so much, and she still forced him to support her. She used him and refused to stop until he was gone.
News in the Duggar girls lawsuit against the city. I couldn't link them to here. Pickles asked if there was any lawyers out there to look at it and someone did.
XXXXX Do you have the initial lawsuit pleadings? What are the Duggar girls suing for?
This order is more about procedure in the case. When the case was filed, the court sets timelines for discovery and exchange of information between the parties, as well as scheduled dates for motions and such.
The defendants filed a motion to dismiss them from the lawsuit arguing that they are immune from suit (as a municipality). Their motion to dismiss has not yet been ruled on.
In the meantime, the defendants filed a motion to stay the exchange of information. Basically saying, judge if you might be dismissing us from the suit, we shouldn't have to turn over the information they've requested because you might agree we are immune from suit.
The judge agreed and said, for now, the defendants don't have to turn over information requested as part of the lawsuit. However, the court said that doesn't mean the defendants don't have to comply with FOIA requests.
FOIA (freedom of information act) requests can come from anyone and must be turned over by the defendants. Even if those requests for information come from the Duggars.
So, they can get FOIA information from the defendants, but for now they can't get other information that they are requesting as part of the lawsuit ( information that they would not be able to access under an FOIA request).
XXXXX They are suing for damages to their "professional reputation" and for "invasion of privacy".
XXXXX The Duggars are asking for 15 million from the City of Springdale.
Duggar Family News: Life is not all pickles and hairspray. I didn't think they named a price.
XXXXX It was on the local news here. I will see if I can find the article and post it.
XXXXX That will break us, won't it? Springdale isn't as wealthy as the neighboring cities.
XXXXX You are good! Thanks for explaining.
xxxxx What "professional reputation? 😂Grifting? These people are delusional.
xxxxx They ruined their own reputation. It's their own son who did the act and they tried to cover it up. THEY are the ones who made the girls go on tv to defend their brother. No one did this TO them... they did it to themselves.
xxxxx The Duggars have a lot of nerve since it's their own fault that info was released. Had they reported the incident when it occurred, none of this would have happened.
xxxxx Hurt, yes it would really hurt Springdale. But why should they care. It doesn't affect them.
xxxxx That's just rotten of them!
xxxxx Imagine if the police had refused to release it. InTouch would have run a story about the rumor and how they requested the police reports, but Springdale was refusing to release them against the FOIA. It would have been a tacit admission that they existed in the first place. Same result.
Duggar Family News: Life is not all pickles and hairspray. The police can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
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That memory is burned in my mind as well. I had the TV on waiting for the funeral and fell back to sleep. I woke to the sounds of people wailing and crying "Diana!" Still haunts me.
Just watched the shopping clip. How much party crap does one person need? And all that stuff they were pulling out of the garage was new and coming out of boxes that had been shipped. She should watch "The minimalist" documentary. All this stuff is not making her happy!!!
Steve is not aging well. I was amazed how bad his teeth are and how different he looks up close. I know I'm being bitchy but he does seem like an old grump.
Kate was absolutely dead behind the eyes during her Collin speech - no emotion whatsoever. She looked pissed more than sad.
Sorry for the long windedness of this message but this is the first chance I've had to comment in awhile. TFW is still horrible - period.
on needs to demand to know where his son is, even if that means going on national television begging Kate. He needs to do whatever it takes!! If he were my child I would've done a heck of a lot more to find him than what Jon Gosselin is doing.
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How do you know that Jon doesn't now know where he is, and how do you know exactly what he has done or hasn't done?
There's a new reality show in the works, Celebs Go Dating featuring zlist celebrities. I wonder if she has this in mind for her future.
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Handinhand (#29), nice to see you posting.
Your screen name is one of my favorite
Elvis Costello songs, although I doubt that's why you chose it!
JustMissy (#91), I didn't watch the show, but I know that dead-eye look. I also know that when TFW is within 100 yards of a camera, microphone or red carpet, she lights up like a Christmas tree. So she is quite capable of joy. She just doesn't get it from being a mother.
77.....don't forget. During pizzagate, while Kate was freaking out about Steve being left out Ashley said "it always about him". That was the telling point to me. Steve may not receprocate (I don't know) but one thing is clear...she's at least emotionally in her own delusional head, having an emotional affair with him.
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We've heard nothing from Jon since last fall, I believe, around the time K8 was going on TV to proclaim that SHE was the only one who knew where Collin was. We've never even heard whether his custody case went forward or not. Something must have transpired between then and now, but I guess the gag order has, for the first time, prevented any info from getting out.
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Nicky (#80), THIS. TFW admitted it was a gradual change in C's behavior that got worse. And what was she doing during that time? Hauling him around the country with cameras in his face, leaving him in other people's care for long periods of time, and depriving his father the opportunity to intervene. No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading.
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What doesn't make sense to me, is the "gradual" change. She has stated he needs to "learn life skills, and strategies to help him deal with things". How could he have been "fine" from age 5 to maybe 9 or 10, then all of a sudden, he has no life skills?
I believe she did have him in therapy, medication, etc., during that time, but outsourced it, and made it the babysitter's/nanny's responsibility to execute. And with a child who has behaviourial issues, you have to adjust your reaction as well. She hasn't changed - we all see how she can ramp up to 100 if she's frustrated - imagine how C's issues would have escalated in that environment. He would have lashed out even harder.
She should be getting therapy along side of him. Her comments that he's at a place he needs to be at to get help tell me all I need to know about her - Let someone else solve that problem. She solved her problem by sending him away.
There's a new reality show in the works, Celebs Go Dating featuring zlist celebrities. I wonder if she has this in mind for her future.
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Well now that she's read about it here (waves to TFW) she'll get Steve right on it. However, the show will have to vet anyone that appears on it and if she and Steve are actually a couple (secretly married?) this will come out and she won't be eligible to appear.
Also, I just want to add, my 11 yr old has dealt with behaviourial issues, and we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but for years, I was on high alert, but not to the detriment to my other son. As mothers, we learn how to do 10 different things at once, and sometimes, it takes 5 minutes of alone time with your kid to calm them down.
And I will state this again - she has had YEARS with 8 kids to learn how to multi task, get a meal together, pack for a vacation (lots of practice there), and to this day she still can't handle the stress?? How do her sheeple not see this??
Yowza, those Daily Mail comments are scathing! I had to stop reading, because they were almost all the same.
Reading about this episode, it almost sounds like TFW was planning a party for her neighbor's kids, or for a business client.
Where was the joy and excitement? Was she throwing those parties because she's crazy about her children, and delights in doing things they'll enjoy, or because TLC offered to film it? Even that final tweet is so bland: saying it was such a fun 13th birthday party. She's just not into them.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 118
I'm starting to think that they're mostly just worried about the optics of letting the family go at this point. They've been with them for so long, they might worry it looks a little cold on their part to suddenly cut off filming. By easing them out slowly, rationing them down episode by episode until they disappear, the transition is less jarring to viewers and viewers will be more accepting, feeling like they got a proper goodbye. It's all calculated by them, and none of it has to do with actually caring about this family. Puh-lease.
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Sorry to go back to previous comments, but I'm still catching up after my day trip yesterday.
In Robert's book he had an excerpt of the contract Jon & Kate signed that stated they were to make all 8 of their children available for filming. We all saw sick children filmed and Khate putting off emergent doctor's visits when filming was scheduled. I believe that Khate drastically downplayed or hid the extent of Colin's problems until one day TLC was informed/showed up to film and Colin was no longer there. So technically Khate is now in breach of contract BUT if TLC pulls the plug on the show, they open themselves up to even more scrutiny coming on the heels of the Duggar scandal. They've all seen and captured on film Khate's abusive behavior towards the kids. So their best choice is to mix up the order of the episodes and give her another season while they wait to gauge the public's reaction to Colin's disappearance. All while cutting the filming budget. As the outrage is beginning to build, they give her a shortened season. The show whimpers to a close, the majority of the American public is outraged and the outrage is directed at Khate. As it should be, but TLC will eventually have to answer for their part in this debacle. TLC epitomizes the old saying crazy like a fox.
For those who watched the show, did anyone catch the look on Jamie's face and her nasty tone when she joined Khate in yelling at the kids after the snake made it's appearance? The cameras cut away quickly, but it was scary.
Something that made my blood run cold was Khate discussing the boys, specifically Joel. I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was to the effect of he was making his opinions known or something and you could tell she didn't like it. Then she passed it off saying he makes her laugh. Both Colin and Joel look a lot like Jon which makes them an automatic, if subconscious target of Khate's. Thank goodness he still sees Jon.
BM... I googled Celebs Go Dating TV show and it appears it is a British show. Too bad Kate!
Susan: "Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David."
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That is so interesting. I was half watching Counting On while I was doing other things. Did TLC literally say it on the show that John--David was in a relationship with Kendra at one point or did you read about this somewhere else? If this is true that is so heartbreaking and wrong. Thanks!
What year are the tups entering this fall? And are the twins going to be juniors? Kate tweeted that the twins have their learner's permit. That is great; I can't imagine any teen not wanting to drive.
Kate did make some comment to the effect that she was pleasantly surprised that Joel was exhibiting some leadership skills during the birthday hunt for food. Talk about a left-handed comment. That is par for Kate though. Bash her lovely son.
And did anybody notice that all three of the girl tups had braces on. And don't forget that Cara and Mady had braces on in the past. Of course though, no braces for her sons...yet, if ever.
Susan1956 (#102), it sure was revealing to find out those tiny kids were contractually obligated to work on something that had no choice about. And I agree about the boys' resemblance to Jon being an issue for her. She managed to kick him to the curb, but I bet she is none too thrilled to have some of his DNA right in front of her face every day. I know that sounds harsh, but, c'mon...they're still the dirty, icky boys to her. J was the clueless, forgotten tup, and
A was the one whose feet smelled as a baby.
Yeah, she's crazy about them...
I believe she did have him in therapy, medication, etc., during that time, but outsourced it, and made it the babysitter's/nanny's responsibility to execute. And with a child who has behaviourial issues, you have to adjust your reaction as well. She hasn't changed - we all see how she can ramp up to 100 if she's frustrated - imagine how C's issues would have escalated in that environment. He would have lashed out even harder.
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I think she probably went off on him one too many times and he finally struck back. Beat a dog enough and he's bound to bite.
Old Skeeve's put on some weight, he's got the man boobs going on.
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Susan: "Jessa and Joseph are so smug I just want to slap them--both still throwing shade at John-David about his lack of a relationship trying to make it sound like his efforts to enter into a relationship with Kendra didn't count/was just a dream. Hello!! John-David was in a relationship but your pervert-protecting dictator father gave his girl to you John David."
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That is so interesting. I was half watching Counting On while I was doing other things. Did TLC literally say it on the show that John--David was in a relationship with Kendra at one point or did you read about this somewhere else? If this is true that is so heartbreaking and wrong
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I am so sorry, I've been putting the wrong information in my posts. Evidently Kendra Caldwell was originally involved with Jedidiah, not John-David. I read it here and confused the two brothers.
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2017/06/kendra-caldwell-did-she-court-jedidiah-duggar-before-joseph-dugg/
So the only theory I'm left with re: the shade thrown at John-David is maybe envy of his talents and employment opportunities? I mean he can fly a plane which is a skill that can translate to the current job market and I believe Jana has bought property in her name. Jessa and Joseph, not so much.
Sorry for the confusion.
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BM... I googled Celebs Go Dating TV show and it appears it is a British show. Too bad Kate!
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I'm thinking Khate and Skeevie could appear on TLC's Spouse House. Oh, wait. The are not strangers to each other.
Just saw a commercial for Growing Up Supermodel. Did somebody steal part of Khate's title from Growing Up Gosselin?
"Iconic moment "????
Photos around the cake??
Such grandiose thinking
So I have emailed or left voice mails for all of the local ad executives whose company's commercials ran during this week's Counting On and Kate + 8.
But this is interesting--I actually talked for several minutes with a man whose company ran an ad Monday on Counting On. While he had a vague memory of the Duggar scandal, he did not realize Counting On is a spinoff of 19 Kids and Counting. So whoever said upthread JimBoob is waiting for people's memories to fade was right. However, he does know who our girl Khate is without watching the show and had a few things to say about her. Upshot is that he has a quarterly meeting coming up with his ad agency and will instruct them that his company's ads are not to be run on either show in the future.
"In 5 years I don't know of I'll be single or not"
Wow that was RANDOM
And did anybody notice that all three of the girl tups had braces on. And don't forget that Cara and Mady had braces on in the past. Of course though, no braces for her sons...yet, if ever.
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It looks like Aaden has braces but Joel doesn't and, if you ask me, Joel's teeth could use some dental work. However, we don't know if he's seeing the orthodontist and why there's a delay in his getting braces.
Just saw a commercial for Growing Up Supermodel. Did somebody steal part of Khate's title from Growing Up Gosselin?
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That's not from Kate. There was a reality show several years ago called "Growing Up Gotti" about the grandsons of John Gotti. The Growing Up..... part may even be from something earlier. Pretty common phrase.
Vanessa (113)
"In 5 years I don't know if I'll be single of not" translates (from Kate-speak to English) to, "Somebody better sign me up for a dating show RIGHT NOW before it's too late!".
At this point, it's too late to help Kate's 8. I am more concerned now about the Busby children. Their father is exhibiting unhealthy signs. He is always taking his shirt off to display his chest. How is that relevant in a show about a family? And now we learn that he has been suffering from possible depression since the quints were born. His concern about the daughter with the eye problems is causing him great stress. I am sure that raising 6 daughters is very demanding and a great responsibility. I cannot imagine that exposing them on a TV show is good for them along with the lack of privacy for the family. He may feel that he has few options financially.
Will Collin ever get braces ?
However, he does know who our girl Khate is without watching the show and had a few things to say about her. Upshot is that he has a quarterly meeting coming up with his ad agency and will instruct them that his company's ads are not to be run on either show in the future.
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I thought when ads are purchased to run on TLC, or any network such as that, the company doesn't know on what show they will be run and that they have no choice.
Old Skeeve's put on some weight, he's got the man boobs going on.
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Did Kate give him advice on what size would look best?
Vanessa (#111), how nice to see you!
Only TFW could observe only 5 of her 6 sextuplets gathered around cakes and define it as an iconic moment. More like a heartbreaking moment. Or a bittersweet one at best. C was turning 13 that day, too -- far away from everyone and everything he loved.
What year are the tups entering this fall? And are the twins going to be juniors? Kate tweeted that the twins have their learner's permit. That is great; I can't imagine any teen not wanting to drive.
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I think that they will be in 7th grade in the fall, second year of Middle School, and the older girls will be in 11th grade.
Yes, to those who mentioned it, Celebs Go Dating is a British reality show, but I can see K8 jumping at a chance to visit London. Currently Courtney Stodden (age 22) is filming there. She is famous for marrying at 16 to that 50 year old guy and now divorced (is it any wonder).
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Nicky said... 100
Also, I just want to add, my 11 yr old has dealt with behaviourial issues, and we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but for years, I was on high alert, but not to the detriment to my other son. As mothers, we learn how to do 10 different things at once, and sometimes, it takes 5 minutes of alone time with your kid to calm them dow
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He's very lucky that are working with him and sticking by his side as you work through his challenges.
What doesn't make sense to me, is the "gradual" change. She has stated he needs to "learn life skills, and strategies to help him deal with things". How could he have been "fine" from age 5 to maybe 9 or 10, then all of a sudden, he has no life skills?
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Kate made the decision to keep the filming going, knowing that Colin was getting worse. First, she lied when she said everything was ok and that Colin and Alexis were both doing just fine and of course, they weren't expelled, yada yada.
Then, Kate lied again about there being ZERO downside to filming and being in the public eye. ALL kids beg to film. ALL kids crying when filming stopped.
Then, we know that she's been dragging Colin around for filming, bringing along minders to watch him and give him meds while the others sometimes went off to film without him.
She should be getting therapy along side of him. Her comments that he's at a place he needs to be at to get help tell me all I need to know about her - Let someone else solve that problem. She solved her problem by sending him away.
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Kate follows the model of the sacrificial family member patient who gets put up on the alter for treatment. It's none of Kate's problem and of course, she NEVER needed therapy.
Syliva LaFair was to fix Jon, not Kate.
That is great that Aaden has braces. I did not realize that. Also,great work to Susan for contacting the Ad Executive. It sounds like it worked.
Leslie said... 104
The tups are entering 7th grade. The twins are juniors
Thanks Gigi for answering!
Sorry if this has been posted, but this AOL article's posts are mostly scathing. This one in particular was very touching:
I too had a "special" child but would not have thought of her being alone without her sibling on her birthday especially knowing there was to be a special party. How cruel! I do not know what the needs are but my daughter had multiple needs and yet her sister and the family always accommodated her needs and included her. She passed in her sleep six years ago and her sister misses her dearly as do we all. Even when the older sister went away to college she made it back for her sisters birthdays etc. When the older sister got married the younger sister was her maid of honor and felt very special. When "baby" sister passed, all of my older daughters friends who grew up loving their "little tag along" attended mass and still send flowers and call during the year and on her birthday. What type of family has this woman created?
https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2017/07/25/kate-gosselin-on-collin-gosselin-birthday-absence/23047040/
The overwhelming sentiment this birthday, WAY more than last, is that people can not believe that she wouldn't include Colin.
I know, we were sickened when Kate had a blow-out, "best party ever" last year, but I really think that most people could not have fathomed a repeat of another Colin-less birthday a year later.
It's finally sinking in. Kate is not like what most people think of what a mother is.
It just defies most people's experiences as children and as mothers.
There's nothing maternal there.
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I thought when ads are purchased to run on TLC, or any network such as that, the company doesn't know on what show they will be run and that they have no choice.
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I used to think so too, but realizes companies had choices when all the advertisers started after the JoshieBoy scandal broke. That scenario recently played out again with the Bill O'Reilly show.
I think companies buy blocks of ads to run within a certain time frame and usually they are to be split up among different within that time frame. My contention is that TLC is playing fast and loose with the companies when they air ads repeatedly within a 1 hour show--such as Kate + 8--to make up for the lack of advertisers on Counting On.
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Also,great work to Susan for contacting the Ad Executive. It sounds like it worked.
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Thank you. My goal is to encourage as many companies as possible to stop advertising on Counting On and Kate + 7 as that is probably the deciding factor in getting TLC to stop filming these reality show train wrecks and exploiting minor children. Or to at least make the ad revenue so low that TLC can only afford to film real life, low-budget--not the never ending vacations--updates.
Tucker's Mom (#130), remember that day last spring when TFW's People article came out, and we were all posting like mad for hours? In our wildest dreams, could we have predicted that child would still be gone more than a YEAR later, and his mother acting like her family had never been happier? We thought the fork had actually, finally been stuck in her, and she was done. How wrong we were.
(Dr. G, child psychologist said... 117 ) And how about when Adam Busby says to a quint, "I see your boobies!" and the toddler giggles and covers her bare chest. Inappropriate, no matter what the age of the child.
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Adam Busby SAID THAT about his daughter!?!
What a JACK@@@!
On Reddit, see what Bob Saget said to a couple that came to see Bob, his wife that almost died when she gave birth to their daughter and the baby.
I have completely stopped watching and or listening to Bob Saget ever since. You may have to hit load comments a couple of times to find it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1rdnvt/til_that_the_first_joke_bob_saget_ever_told/#bottom-comments
Wow, this is so awful.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/dianas-brother-palace-lied-to-me-about-william-and-harry/ar-AAoQSii?li=BBnb7Kz
Good to see the posters that have been away for a while back posting!
Ma and Pa Duggar are vacationing in Hawaii.
So funny! There is Pa Duggar wearing jeans on the beach and Michelle in black hose, ortho shoes and very long skirt with a blouse that is suppose to be tucked in.
Yes, Hawaii while poor Jana (Janerella) is stuck home taking care of all her little siblings plus all of the unmarried boys. Saw a picture of her at the cafeteria line making PANS AND PANS of pizza for lunch.
Pretty shocking that J and M would travel that far just after Jill had the baby and Jill rumored to have had major problems when she had the baby. Jill possibly still could be in the hospital or just has gotten released.
John-David and Jana are actually their siblings parents!
It's been rumored for years that William and Harry were forced to walk with their mother' casket and that William told Harry to just stare at his shoes to get through. That was even depicted in a TV movie. I think it was a tough call and it might of been a case of Charles and others worrying the boys might regret it if they didn't. In fairness I don't think anyone anticipated all the wailing that went on, like walking through a death camp. The walk ended up being disturbing on a level most people I think were shocked over to watch it let alone walk it.
Obviously the boys are now indicating it was a very bad decision for them in hindsight. I still think they need a lot more help and therapy to help them heal. These wounds are not scars as they should be 20 years out, they are festering open sores.
Earl Spencer (Diana's brother) has recently said he didn't think Diana would have wanted her sons to accompany her casket. He has said he was told by Palace 'officials' that the boys wanted to walk with him and Prince Charles. It has been said that the reason the two young princes were asked to do the walk was because police and palace 'officials' were afraid of what the crowd's reaction would be towards Prince Charles. The feeling was if Prince William and Prince Harry were with him the crowd would refrain from taking out their dislike on Prince Charles. It would appear the police were right, there was no disturbance from the crowd.
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Using the boys as a buffer is really beyond the pale. That said there are legitimate reasons why a teen should participate in a funeral in some form. It can be important to healing. In this case it didn't work out. Still Charles has impressed me with his love and dedication to the boys since. He actively stepped up his game. It's been reported Catherine especially adores Charles and I think that says a lot.
Tucker's...but what if he's not allowed to come home, not even for a birthday party?
I don't know what his problem is, and apparently only a few people know, and if the professionals involved in his therapy decided that it's not in the child's best interest to be at home around Kate, or whatever is the root of his issues, then wouldn't you think that their advice should be followed?
At this point, I just don't know, and I think that only a few people close to this situation really know, and that doesn't include Milo, no matter how much communicatin' they do.
http://people.com/tv/kate-gosselin-children-getting-annoyed-mom-still-single/?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag
An article on People about Kate being single. Is Katie Coyne trying to get her buddy a dating show?
In a strange wag I almost have to give Em a little credit for being rather disturbed by the Collin situation and blabbing about it. It shows she has a conscience and recognized it was wrong.
Pretty sure Kate's buying IG followers again. The count has gone up by roughly a thousand on each of the last few days. That didn't happen after the two episodes that aired before this week's. My guess is, we're going to start seeing a lot of endorsements on her IG in the coming weeks. That's K8, easy money.
OT...Admin or maybe someone else can help me with a question. If a person has used a lawyer to apply for social security disability and has been denied twice and now is awaiting a court date, can they drop the lawyer and finish the appeal themself? Thanks ahead of time.
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Vanessa (113)
"In 5 years I don't know if I'll be single of not" translates (from Kate-speak to English) to, "Somebody better sign me up for a dating show RIGHT NOW before it's too late!".
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Does she really think anyone CARES about her relationship status and dating life?
If she scored a spot on a dating show, people would not want to watch the show because of her.
I doubt she'd want to go on a show like Big Brother where she has zero control over what is and isn't shown on TV and what is posted online. There would be whole highlights shows dedicated to the before, during and aftermath of her childish meltdowns over living on staples, participating in tasks, doing chores, any punishments she may receive for breaking rules and when she is nominated - which would be every week until she's finally eliminated.
OT...Admin or maybe someone else can help me with a question. If a person has used a lawyer to apply for social security disability and has been denied twice and now is awaiting a court date, can they drop the lawyer and finish the appeal themself? Thanks ahead of time.
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They may need to file a motion with the court requesting they rep themselves. Sounds funny but ask the attorney the prosedure for getting them off. They should hopefully know. Most attorneys actually don't take it personally and may even be happy to end the relationship if it's not the right match so don't be shy.
TFW may be angling for a dating show but I don't believe she is sincere about wanting to date or be in a relationship. On the clip where her, Jamie and Mady are shopping for party supplies, TFW walks by supplies for a bride to be party and says " never again".
kateplusmy8 Awww! You could have said hello! I was probably buried in their endless menu trying to decide! 😂 Thanks for the love! @inspiringthreads
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How about you not have fans hounding you at restaurants with your CHILDREN on VACATION.
Princess Diana she is NOT.
Biographer Sally Bedell Smith has a completely different account of why William and Harry walked behind the casket. She says their GRANDFATHER was concerned they would regret it, and that they had discussions about it and the boys agreed if they did it they wanted him there.
It did seem rather odd her ex-father-in-law would walk--it does make sense he would do it to support the boys.
I think it really is one of those decisions where you make the call in that moment and hope it's the right one. We could have just as easily had Harry and William be saying why didn't they let us walk, we were robbed of that one last opportunity to be with our mum.
"The story behind the procession provides insight into the royal family dynamic ahead of the funeral. Sally Bedell Smith relays the details in her new biography of the Prince of Wales, Prince Charles. The day before the funeral, the royal family had arrived back in London after grieving privately at the queen's Scottish estate Balmoral. Bedell Smith explains that "the one lingering question about the funeral was whether William and Harry would walk in the procession behind their mother's horse-drawn gun carriage." Charles wanted his sons to walk because it was a tradition for royal men, but the boys were reluctant.
Finally, it was their grandfather, Prince Philip, who helped William and Harry make the decision. Bedell Smith writes that Prince Philip told William, "If you don't walk, you may regret it later." He went on, "I think you should do it. If I walk, will you walk with me?" Thanks to that conversation, William and Harry joined the procession at St. James's Palace, providing history with a moment we won't soon forget."
JM (#149), I didn't see the show, but I'm not surprised TFW would make a remark like that in front of her daughter. It's a blatant shot at her ex: her children's father. Like, oh, no, I would never relive the nightmare of marriage again.
But she sure didn't seem to feel that way when TLC dangled a luxury trip to Hawaii, plus a Say Yes To the Dress episode, for that vow renewal. Where she promised her children Mommy and Daddy would stay together forever, although she'd already decided the marriage was over.
Sad but true (145)
She already started endorsing products on IG, which was a tip-off that something was going on with TLC. Buying more followers means she's trying to make herself look more popular so she can get more endorsements. Anything to make some cash off her fans.
Tizzie (147),
She still thinks a dating show is her ace in the hold. If all else fails, dangle a dating show and see who grabs. She did the same thing in 2011, when she was much more popular than she is now, and nobody took her up on it. Why bother trying now? I guess because she can't think of anything else. She's saying the same thing now that she did 6 years ago--that the kids want her to date/marry. They're teenagers. She expects people to believe that they want her to bring some strange man into their lives after all this time and make him part of their family? That they want some outsider to invade their home and start making rules for them to follow? I think not. It's all about her desire to be on TV, and she's doing the same thing she has always done--using her kids to help her try to get a show.
I sped through the birthday special on TLC's site. A couple of things: the flashbacks did not even really show Collin; Kate wanted to give the "old and rotting" swing set to a friend's relative" How kind to give a potentially dangerous play structure to another family; the tups are well aware the twins don't like them and it seems the boys only like Hannah who is 'awesome.'The house seems so divided these days, with the kids no longer a six-pack with caring older sisters and no loving relatives or helpers..
relationship. On the clip where her, Jamie and Mady are shopping for party supplies, TFW walks by supplies for a bride to be party and says " never again".
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Get over yourself Sally
She is so not over her anger at Jon
Tucker's Mom (#155), and doncha love the way a comment like that makes her look like a victim? Meanwhile, she's the one who got 8 kids out of him when he only wanted 2, had him as her right-hand helper even when he was working full-time away from home, turned him into Mr. Mom while she trotted across the country with another man, and then kicked him to the curb. Talk about revisionist history.
You know what else is telling about TFW's comment about the bridal party stuff? Another mother with 2 almost 17-year-old girls would more likely say something playful, like, hey, I could be buying this stuff for one of you in a few years! But when she isn't censoring herself, or reading prepared material to pretend she has a maternal bone in her body, her narcissism comes shining through.
Angelina Jolie has emerged with her single Mom tale of woe and it sounds just like Kate.
Single mom
Working on moving forward being healthy
Being there for the kids, staying home, cooking and doing the dishes
Yeah...doing the dishes....riiiiiiiiiiight.
St. Angie the .01% Martyre
Layla said... 153
Sad but true (145)
She already started endorsing products on IG, which was a tip-off that something was going on with TLC. Buying more followers means she's trying to make herself look more popular so she can get more endorsements. Anything to make some cash off her fans.
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Could someone enlighten me as to how you buy Twitter followers? This is not a service that Twitter offers right? How do you know that a follower on Twitter or Instagram has been 'bought'? Wouldn't the companies be able to tell Khate has inflated her numbers?
This is an interesting article. It looks like Khate could make enough cash for some of her minor expenses, but if she's buying followers on Instagram does that also translate into 'likes' on the product she is hawking?
http://jezebel.com/heres-how-much-celebrities-make-in-the-instagram-produc-1740632946
Very rapidly this website will be famous among all blogging and site-building
viewers, due to it's pleasant content
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Kate bought me some lovely bots!
This is an interesting article. It looks like Khate could make enough cash for some of her minor expenses, but if she's buying followers on Instagram does that also translate into 'likes' on the product she is hawking?
As I understand it the "likes" are only on her IG post and the bots would actually have to click on the product link and "like" that also OR make a purchase from the vendor. Kate is just plumping up her followers and "likes" to make herself look popular. Any vendor or advertiser can look at an account and tell if the "likes/comments" are genuine or bots. The bots are set to automatically "like" anything that Kate posts and this doesn't migrate over to the product.
I should have said in my other post that she wouldn't command as much money for product placement because she's a D list celebrity and most of her "like" and followers are bots. Advertisers are wise to this and if they don't get the clicks advertising with her they'll drop her and word gets around. The product placements she's had so far have not been mainstream products so she got a small payment for the original product payment but won't get any more if the vendor doesn't get the "likes" or purchases when advertising on her site.
I'm anticipating a truly nauseating display of #NunuLove when she returns home. Armor up.
As for buying followers, you can just Google it and find a variety of choices for any type of social-media account. As for how you tell between those purchased and those not, for me it's always been reflected in the number of people actually liking or responding. For example, the last photo she posted on IG has just over 10K likes, which is a lot more than usual. Still, that only translates into 6% of her ostensible 167K followers. (Average likes on her photos tend to be in the 5-6K range, a mere 3% of total followers.) We know she purchased around 75-80K back in April (or thereabouts) having seen the jump pretty much overnight; and she's clearly bought at least 5K just recently. So by my reckoning, at least 50% of her 167K total are fake.
I noted the other day that I'd seen an IG photo of Jinger Duggar that had 70K likes in less than 24 hours. I doubt she buys followers just because the Duggars don't seem to do any product-hawking (leaving aside things like the Bible and the Ark Encounter, LOL). As of right now, Jinger's got 488K followers (she just joined in April!), so 70K likes (I'm sure it ended up being a lot more after the first day) on one of her photos is just over 14% of her followers, which to me would seem a reasonable number. I assume that people looking at these "celebrity" accounts for marketing purposes are wise to the follower-buying game, but we know K8's last publisher really misconstrued the strength of her fan-base by touting her "100+K" Twitter following in their advertising of the crookbook. At that time, at least half of those had been purchased. Which I don't think they realized until it was too late to cancel that 50K printing. Suckeeeers.
Someone is trying to do damage control. Interesting that the "source" spoke to Hollywood Life and not People or Entertainment Tonight.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/07/25/kate-plus-8-collin-gosselin-special-needs-school/
From the article:
"Fans of Kate Gosselin, 42, and her family were shocked to see that her son Collin, one of her sextuplets, was not included in the 13th birthday celebration for his siblings that was broadcast on the family’s show Kate Plus 8 on July 24. Collin — who used to be a big part of the TLC reality TV series, along with the five other sextuplets and Kate’s twin daughters — has been noticeably absent this season after being enrolled in a program for kids with special needs in 2016. A source close to the mother of eight revealed to HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY why Colin wasn’t included in the family’s festivities.
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
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HUH? So, stop filming. Have a normal household without chaos and screaming.
This is baloney.
Colin was being filmed for YEARS while he was struggling with problems.
The time to have cared about filming affecting Colin was probably about when he started covering his face out in public because Kate made their family tabloid fodder and paparazzi magnets.
Hooey!
“Obviously the major difference between this party and every other birthday party was the fact that Collin wasn’t here,” Kate said during the party.
Every time I read this quote, it sickens me. How dare she pretend that this was the first birthday he missed!
And the sheeple are too in love to notice her whitewashing of the past.
Collin’s fellow sextuplets — Aaden, Alexis, Hannah, Leah and Joel — all enjoyed the amazing party Kate threw for them to celebrate their milestone birthday back in May, which was then broadcast last night. The party featured mani/pedis for the girls and a fun scavenger hunt for the whole crew and their friends before hunkering down for a backyard camp out. “Obviously the major difference between this party and every other birthday party was the fact that Collin wasn’t here,” Kate said during the party. “Throughout this last year he has really continued struggling. It just became obvious to me that I was not able, with my own resources here, to meet his needs.”
Did Kate seriously try to pull the wool over viewers eyes and make believe this was the FIRST birthday Colin missed?
OMG
Sad but true said... 164
I assume that people looking at these "celebrity" accounts for marketing purposes are wise to the follower-buying game, but we know K8's last publisher really misconstrued the strength of her fan-base by touting her "100+K" Twitter following in their advertising of the crookbook. At that time, at least half of those had been purchased. Which I don't think they realized until it was too late to cancel that 50K printing. Suckeeeers.
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Thanks for the explanation re: buying bots on Twitter & Instagram. I hope any company Khate or her agent/road manager/Skeevie approaches about advertising on her Instagram checks out her number of followers thoroughly before wasting their money as the book publishers did.
I'm still talking to ad executives of the different companies that advertised on Monday's Counting On and have been amazed how many had a limited
knowledge of the Duggar scandal and/or did not realize that Counting On is a spin off of 19 Kids & Counting. Everyone was very nice, noted my concerns and stated they would be talking to their ad agencies.
Someone upthread stated pictures of JimBoob & Babykins in Hawaii and Janarella making a meal for the tribe have been posted. Is it possible that TLC is filming a short segment the non-courting/recently married members of the Duggar family? They could use a free lance crew for the small amount of footage on JimBoob & Babykins.
Kate is a twit said... 165
Someone is trying to do damage control. Interesting that
the "source" spoke to Hollywood Life and not People or Entertainment Tonight.
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Only 2 comments so far and they aren't buying the spin of the "exclusive source".
KIAT (#165), that source ought to tell TFW that C is flourishing, because she doesn't seem to know.
Her last official comment on his progress was a year ago, when he was plodding, plugging and chugging along. This good news would've made a happy ending to that bittersweet birthday party he couldn't attend.
But that flat "we notice he's not here" statement TFW choked out sure doesn't scan with this article.
"“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said."
Kate doesn't want Collin on camera because she just can't seem to act like she gives a crap about him and because he's seemed like a drugged-out zombie in the past dozen or so episodes he's appeared in. Utter bullshit from the "source." Cameras have been a significant part of this child's life since the age of three; all of a sudden at 11, they're too distracting? And what about the crew "family"? I thought everyone wanted them back. If there's any truth to this "source," then this child has been suffering for the better part of a decade. No matter how you slice it, whether or not K8 is the genesis of Collin's "issues," this version of "what's really going on" doesn't make K8 look any better than the others out there. Not if you bother to think beyond the very carefully chosen words.
Pretty shocking that J and M would travel that far just after Jill had the baby and Jill rumored to have had major problems when she had the baby. Jill possibly still could be in the hospital or just has gotten released.
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I remember watching an episode of the show years ago where the whole Duggar family traveled to a large city to visit a museum. What shocked me the most is the parents were leading their pack of kids ,as both parents held hands , each of the older girls are seen juggling a baby or more each. Either with one baby in their arms while holding hands with another small child, this really gave off a "our older daughters are our servants" vibe. Both parents just continued to walk like newly weds with their backs toward the kids as if they didn't have a care in the world.M and J just can't be bothered with the hard work of raising their OWN babies. Once they were weaned, they were handed off to a "buddy" to be raised. And these older girls would sleep with the babies in their own room. They would have to wake up with the child during the night if the child was scared of the dark, or needed comforting, hungry, wet, etc. M's only job was to get pregnant and nurse her newborns. They have the money to hire help but they choose to use their older kids. Very selfish parents!
Susan1956 (#169), kudos to you for contacting those ad executives. Interesting that they didn't realize that Counting On was a Duggar spin-off. Maybe if TLC took TFW's name out of the title, it might fool more people into watching. "7 Is Enough?"
@Sad but true by saying she doesn't want Collin in front of the camera,is she admitting filming is a problem?But,i thought kate said all the kids love filming and are "happy and healthy"?I agree with Tucker this is baloney and full of crap.
Hollywood Life should check out their 'exclusive sources' more carefully.
http://perezhilton.com/2016-11-30-kate-gosselin-kate-plus-8-collin-missing-birthday-party-tlc#.WXpfBFWGPIU
This sums it up pretty perfectlyy:
Sockie on the Case @SockieWhodunit
Replying to @ConcernedChick @tori_bowmam @Kateplusmy8
All the stimulation? You mean her shrieking and screaming? That's enough to put anybody on edge. #KatePlusMy8
Yeah, Mommy starts acting like a lunatic whenever she's within 100 yards of a camera. I think that would bother most people. Poor kid.
Please, nobody listen to anything Earl Spencer says. The man is horrific. Take a few minutes to look at how he's treated his own ex-wife and children.
So C wasn't there. No big surprise I guess. I'd rather him be out of this mess than self-soothing to try and deal with the insanity. Did Khate spend any time with the boys or did she send them off to do something then focus on the girls (and herself)?
And, the thing that has haunted me forever? As the procession walked quietly down London's streets, heads bent, every ten seconds or so, you would hear somebody wail, "Diana! Diana!"
The public was literally crushed with grief.
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The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's.
The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's.
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I don't think grief is sick or dramatic. This isn't a crush on a teen idol. It's a relationship she had with her subjects in which she made them feel loved and cared about, and was darn sincere in what she did. Diana wanted it, she wanted to be queen of people's HEARTS. With that comes a broken heart when you die.
People wailed--so what, they were sad.
In particular, those with AIDS owe he a lot. A....lot.
Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
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Sooooo???RATHER than STOP FILMING she REMOVES the obstacle? TFW's "source" should just stfu.
“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
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That makes it sound like it's really Collin who doesn't want to go back. If that's true, I'm honestly not surprised. It's very possible many children would find that house overwhelming, so much so they might be fine with not actually living there anymore. Sad, but real reality.
Milo found the Hollywood Life story and is now tweeting Kate about it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 39m39 minutes ago
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So thought you should see this Kate? No surprise here! #Tabloids can't resist. Who gave this story? https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/m/24aa4587-6f58-3c21-b602-5206f14c8608/ss_collin-gosselin-is-reportedly.html … @Kateplusmy8
Apparently Barb Gilmer is questioning the source because Milo replied to her with:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m6 minutes ago
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Replying to @BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8
Granted...the "source" may be fictitious...but SOMEONE approached this tabloid & several other rag mags w/this info!
Milo doesn't seem to realize that the "other rag mags" picked up the story from Hollywood Life. The Yahoo story links to an In Touch story which then links to the HL story.
#Dolt
I swear Kate treats Nanuq like a toy instead of a pet. There's a bonus video posted on TLC.com, and it shows Nanuq with her coat dyed pink. Totally pink!! She did it for the birthday party but yet in an IG post dated July 10, you could still see the pink fur.
Here's the video:
https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/bonus-scene-party-dogs
Here's the IG post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWY5tf3Afy5/?taken-by=kateplusmy8
Someone asked Kate about the pink fur, and Kate replied:
kateplusmy8Um. Well.. just watch #KatePlus8 the next two weeks to find out 😉!
I guess Kate didn't realize at the time that that part would be cut out from the episode that aired.
Sooooo???RATHER than STOP FILMING she REMOVES the obstacle? TFW's "source" should just stfu.
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And, when you look at the filming she gave up Collin for, it's pretty pathetic. A couple trips in off season to "meh" places in the dead of summer. A couple days of skiing. One small season, a second even smaller season. With all signs suggesting no more at least not for awhile.
At the end of the day, a couple days of skiing and some beaches for the price of a kid.
We said all along this woman is evil, and it was true all along.
"Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said. “Kate decided to send him to a facility, because she thought it was best for him. Now it seems that Collin is flourishing, and he’s responding very well to one-on-one instruction. He definitely finds it easier to function and cope better without all the chaos that his home life entails.”
I hope he is happy wherever he is. It's a shame Kate wouldn't stop filming because of him. It's also a shame she caused the chaos and even encourages it.
I think a pink rinse on natural blonde hair is one of the hardest colors to get out. I know that when I put pink in my hair for a show I was in (many years ago) it seemed like I was pink forever. What I noticed about the video was that #NookiePookie had to be kept on leash because she was nervous about everything going on...that and she was pulling TFW so I'm guessing she's not trained to walk in a heel or close.
"“Kate doesn’t want Collin on camera very much because all the stimulation can be difficult for him,” the insider said."
Kate doesn't want Collin on camera because she just can't seem to act like she gives a crap about him and because he's seemed like a drugged-out zombie in the past dozen or so episodes he's appeared in.
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The real story is probably the service providers refused to allow him on camera any more or they'd call CPS so she had no choice to comply. Let's be real.
I see Kate herself played the "lack of resources" card, lol, as she sits in her 1 percent huge mansion in one of the wealthiest areas of the state near some of the best intensive service providers in the country, even world. I wonder if the troll the other day was Kate claiming no resources in southern PA. Slapping my thigh, that's a good one!
No, I'm not accusing her of being the cause of his problems. But if someone else starts a fire, and you're standing there simply holding a hose and not using it, you're surely responsible for it spreading.
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EXACCTTTLY. You don't get to this point overnight, and the years and years she ignored or minimized the problem and kept shoving him in front of the cameras she is responsible for.
OT. I can't believe this woman is still around/is back. Locked in a swanky hotel in Bel Aire with her toughest cases. Khate should have done a crossover show with her years ago if she was truly serious about finding love. Not. But I'd love to see Khate locked away somewhere.
http://www.wetv.com/shows/million-dollar-matchmaker/videos/season-02/million-dollar-matchmaker-season-2-trailer?gclid=CNGlp9bqqtUCFRC1wAodUhIAMw
JM (#149), I didn't see the show, but I'm not surprised TFW would make a remark like that in front of her daughter. It's a blatant shot at her ex: her children's father. Like, oh, no, I would never relive the nightmare of marriage again.
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Absolutely it is, and the kids are well old enough to get the reference.
Good parents always make sure kids know they don't regret the marriage or the time together, and that of course they would never regret it when such great kids came out of it. Chances are kids of divorce are going to wonder and ask how their mom or dad feels about the marriage. That's what a NORMAL parent would say and sincerely feel in response.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/05/dying-your-dogs-hair-animal-cruelty_n_8245390.html
And I will state this again - she has had YEARS with 8 kids to learn how to multi task, get a meal together, pack for a vacation (lots of practice there), and to this day she still can't handle the stress?? How do her sheeple not see this??
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And let's not forget, she's been a stay at home mom for a decade. Can you imagine how many moms with special needs kids could only dare dream of having the amount of extra time she does to devote to attending to a child who needs you? Having a child with special needs and a full time job is very difficult.
The camera overstimulates Collin, so the choice was to either get rid of the camera or get rid of Collin. We all know which she chose.
"The public was literally using a dead woman and her children to be dramatic. It was sick on their part not the Royal Family's"
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Sick on who's part? Are you saying millions of people who grieved Diana's death were sick as in 'mentally ill' for expressing their emotions for a beautiful and compassionate young woman who was duped into marriage just so she could produce an heir or two!
Diana was the perfect beard for Charles & Camilla. She was used from day one.
The Queen had to be shamed into coming back to London and SHAMED into lowering the flag at Buck house. The 'Royal'(ha!) family also had to be shamed into giving Diana a state funeral because they no longer consider her worthy since Liz rescinded Diana's HRH title and pulled her security. They loathed her for being 'normal' not worthy and most of all for not going away quietly.
Diana was loved very much by the people and the 'firm' was crazy with jealousy - especially Charles!
Layla said... 195
The camera overstimulates Collin, so the choice was to either get rid of the camera or get rid of Collin. We all know which she chose.
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Exactly and this needs to be shouted from the rooftops. How anyone can still fall for her BS is beyond me.
The only sick thing is the way western culture and British culture think grief is such a taboo. Maybe if Prince William and Prince Harry felt free to wail and moan when their mother died that wouldn't have such unresolved emotions 20 years later. I understand the funeral was hard for them. It's not supposed to be fun. But I also think it gave them an understanding of just how much their mother was loved and how important it was that that carry on her legacy. Of that I know they are grateful.
NJGal51 (#197), and how about that annual "vote" on whether or not to continue filming, that was supposed to be unanimous? What nonsense. A good mother would have just shut the whole thing down when her young son's health and welfare was being so negatively impacted by the stress and chaos of filming.
Yesterday on Judge Judy, Judy tore this one mom up who had put her child into foster care at the age of 10 because she was a disciple problem. Basically said she was a bad mother, you don't send your child away for behavior issues, etc...If you know Judge Judy, I'm sure you can imagine! She also HATES mothers trying to alienate the father, hates it. She says fathers have as much of a right to a child as the mother does.
She'd rake Kate over the coals. I'd pay to see that.
Back to the Mady comment: I think she knows how to manipulate the situation. Her 'good' behavior is for the purpose of showing her mother up, how unreasonable and irrational she is. I think sadly Mady is truly a mini-me of Kate.
As for the dogs, isn't Nu-Nu a silly nickname? Like Shokies. Dying the dog pink also is a dumb even cruel thing to do.
NOIP @ 196 - You are so right about Prince Charles being jealous of Diana and her popularity with people. What an insecure man he is. Instead of being proud of her, he complained that crowds turned out to see her rather than him.
He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
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He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
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He always acted so tickled pink that Jackie was such a hit. He was proud of her, and loved to see her bask in the limelight, and do good works with it. Instead of resenting her popularity, he embraced it, saw it as good for the country. I think a big part of what split Charles and Diana up was he really just couldn't hack it being "and her husband."
I think some people just have jealous personalities, and perhaps it's a case of something from their childhood or just needing some therapy to not be so resentful of others all the time. Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate.
There are two ways to view life. A fixed pie, where if one person takes a piece of pie, nobody else can ever make up for that piece--therefore, ya get mad. Or, the better way--the chocolate factory machine, where just because somebody is gobbling up a bunch of chocolates coming out doesn't mean there won't be anything left for you.
I really don't understand why Kate has to separate the girls vs the boys for every activity. Kate said on the interview couch that the girls wanted to have a glamorous birthday while the boys wanted to "struggle to survive". But Alexis lit up at the thought of joining the boys camping and said manicures aren't her thing. After all it is HER birthday too
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I agree. But the boys didn't seem to want their sister involved in 'their' camping party anyway and I can understand that. But Alexis is different from H and L, and although each girl seemed to have one special guest, Alexis is into nature, animals and things the other girls think are 'weird' or gross.If it were one big camping party I think everyone could have had fun together- campfire, the archery game, food hunt, tent-pitching,swimming, maybe crafts ( although the girls would not go in the pool with the boys).Glam station optional!
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