kateplusmy8 No splint for some reason (I asked) and it's his front right (which Shoka has a habit of grabbing when they play; plus mak has slipped a few times so don't know which did it) and I CANNOT WAIT TO LET HIM RUN! Hes scratched my wood floors to bits from boredom and when I covered it with a new piece of linoleum, it took him 5 min to rip a hole!! Grrrrr @miloandjack2016
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CC said... I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily.
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I agree with you that TFW likely flipped out about the scratched floors. Completely agree.
What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors? Did she get confused (as she often does when she is making up the story as she goes along) about the details? I can understand saying she covered it with a rug (well, no I can't because it's TFW we're talking about) but a new piece of linoleum? IDK...
Milo is trying so hard to be just like Kate by posting dog pictures on her IG account. Three days ago she posted a picture of Katie Irene, with the following caption:
miloandjack2016Ha...#MissK at the #TopOfHerGame again!! This time got a tissue pack....sigh. And she looks at me w/no shame! I guess she wants me to say "good girl"! LOL
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLjv_tdBDR6/
She seems to be suggesting that this happened recently.
I guess she forgot that she posted the exact same picture on twitter over 2 years ago.
CC said... I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily. --------------
She flipped out when her 3 year old got some ice cream on her dress. She flipped out when her 2 year olds got into M&Ms and dared to eat some. She flipped when her daughter ate the slice of pizza she was saving for her lover-oh I'm sorry, I mean bodyguard.
You better believe she freaked out about the floors, if it's even true they got scratched(is there a picture or do we only have her word?)
Hi all, checking in, not sure why I can't show up in color. Oh well. Cover of People October 24 issue has Chip and Joanna Gaines from HGTV Fixer Upper show. Interesting on page 56, "they don't want their children growing up in the spotlight. ' they're so young and we want to give them the chance to have a normal childhood.' Joanna says. Though the kids appear briefly in segments of the show, they are not subjected to filming multiple takes, nor will the Gaineses allow them to show their faces in photo shoots." Anyone watching Dancing With the Stars? It's got lots of talent this season. I don't have a favorite yet.
KIAT Milo has been posting the same pictures recently.The photo of her son driving was something i remember her uploading last year and the one of the 2 dogs on her bed is a photo she already has on her IG if you scroll down more.Its so weird.
Busted! Good sleuthing Kate is a twit. I thought the picture looked familiar.
JoyinVirginia - I watched DWTS yesterday and had quite the laugh over Ryan's predickament (yes, spelled wrong on purpose). Tom is very quick on his feet with the quips. I don't really have a favorite yet but I don't really like Maureen all that much (maybe because I didn't like Marsha).
KIAT, thanks for pointing out that photo of Milo's. I thought it looked familiar. It just goes to show what a liar she is---does she do it to make Kate like her? Or is this just part of her "job," to keep comments on Kate's various social media TLs churning? Not that there's much churning anywhere. I think Kate's reception on IG bears out that most people don't give a f--- about her anymore. And except for haters and porn links, her Twitter is averaging maybe 5 random comments a day, and not all of those flattering.
I love how she completely ignores the fact that Nala was there for at least the first year---didn't Nala help make her a better peson? No? I wonder why that was. And Shoka wasn't that young when he upchucked on her rug, that was only 4 years, I think. And thse Xmas goodies left out on top of the trash for the sanitation workers were wrapped in PLASTIC, Milo, Kate said so herself. Milo's really become invested in helping Kate rewrite history. I wonder what's in it for her.
miloandjack2016 REMEMBER when you said yrs ago..."I could live my whole life w/out a dog..." LOL That was BEFORE you met #Shoka...the dog who changed your life...whose love & loyalty made you see dogs in a different light! The special companion who made you a better person! #CheersToShokies. ❤
miloandjack2016 Not to say it hasn't been quite a journey# I remember Shoka as a young dog eating a dead animal & then upchucking it on your nice rug! 😧 And lets not forget when he ate all your baking gifts...paper and all! LOL. #Memories. 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Not to say it hasn't been quite a journey# I remember Shoka as a young dog eating a dead animal & then upchucking it on your nice rug! 😧 And lets not forget when he ate all your baking gifts...paper and all! LOL. #Memories. 😋 @kateplusmy8
LOL, and someone commented about that Twitter picture a few years back that it looked staged. I thought so too when I saw it the first time.
Also Kate ADMITS the dog scratched her floor from BOREDOM! Huh? Is he locked up in a room all the time?? Why use a piece of linoleum as a cover over a wood floor? Wouldn't that slide all over the place? She is sooooo weird. Maybe she used the linoleum by the door because the dog has had accidents by it which would indicate to me the dog is not being walked when needed. She has no business owning dogs.
I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily. ****** I also don't believe for a minute that she didn't flip out at her floors being ruined. We have hardwood floors (with area rugs) and once they are scratched, there's very little you can do besides get them refinished to restore them again. You can wax etc, but nothing will take the scratches out. Can you just see "Scratch-Gate"? Who scratched the floors?! Who's going to be Inspector Gadget?
That person had to come down a pretty long private road in order to break into her husband's pick-up. Seems like it would be pretty far out of someone's way when there are probably easier pickins' in town. ***** If that long road was Milo's private driveway, it needs an alarm to notify when someone is driving up.
Kylie said... 1 ******* Yes, I agree. Whatever happens good or bad, no matter who is our next POTUS, we will all be in it together. I'm also very ashamed of our intolerance towards our fellow Americans, and have never witnessed anything like it. On last night's news, there was a story about this guy's Trump sign being burned down. The sign was near his house, which was decorated for Halloween with a hay bale. If a police cruiser hadn't happened to be patrolling his street at 2 a.m., his house and his townhouse neighbors' houses could have been burned to the ground. People have just got to stop it already.
JoyinVirginia said... 5 Hi all, checking in, not sure why I can't show up in color. Oh well. Cover of People October 24 issue has Chip and Joanna Gaines from HGTV Fixer Upper show. Interesting on page 56, "they don't want their children growing up in the spotlight. ' they're so young and we want to give them the chance to have a normal childhood.' Joanna says. Though the kids appear briefly in segments of the show, they are not subjected to filming multiple takes, nor will the Gaineses allow them to show their faces in photo shoots." ******* I read about them in Parade magazine this week. I saw a segment on the Brangelina kids this week. Apparently Brad was reunited with some or all of his kids for a visit. First time since the split. The tv personalities were going on and on about how hard this is to not see dad for AN ENTIRE MONTH, and how great it is that Brad is visiting them WITH A THERAPIST to help them with any emotional difficulties. They also waxed on about Jolie's brother stepping in to help and how having as many familiar family and friends at this difficult time really helps them. I thought about Kate's handling of her debacle of a divorce- fail, fail, fail.
What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors -------------
Kate's laundry room has a linoleum floor. She probably locked Mak in there after he scratched her wood floors and then he ripped up the floor in the laundry room.
She just got confused in telling the details of her "story".
Is it just me, or is TFW's love letter to Shoka more sentimental than the one she penned on her daughters' 16th birthday? All the flowery language in the world won't make me forget that she sent those dogs away. Nor will it take away the terrible treatment Robert exposed in the book.
Shoka's B'day message: HAPPY 8th BIRTHDAY TO THE KING OF KING SHEPHERDS. You changed our lives for the better, guard us, love us unconditionally, AND gave us your amazing 'kids'! Today is YOUR day! Party time after school, Shokie!
Twins B'day message: 16 years ago, these two perfectly amazing girls were born! I'm so thankful for them each and every day! Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!!
Well, the girls got more "!!!" and more little red harts.
Yeah, ridiculous to blow it off like it's nothing and oh, the dogs ran him off...
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And that's why I don't believe her story, she's sit trying to prop up ate by saying look see isn't she such a responsible mama to have dogs who will ward off predators? She is doing this for her kids. B.S.
Doesn't she have a million questions? Who was that? What did they want? Were they armed at all? Do they know us? Or was this random? Why us? Will they come back? Will they try something more aggressive next time?
And heck, what about your neighbors? Wouldn't you want to warn them some guy is trying to break into cars in the neighborhood?
You would call the police or at the very least be very freaked out and instructed by others to call the police.
I felt violated when my car was broken into a few years ago, and they din't even take anything (I had nothing for them to take). It took weeks to feel normal again, and I know many people who take much longer than that to move on from something like that. Milo? Gimme a break with your fantasies.
JoyinVirginia - I watched DWTS yesterday and had quite the laugh over Ryan's predickament (yes, spelled wrong on purpose). Tom is very quick on his feet with the quips. I don't really have a favorite yet but I don't really like Maureen all that much (maybe because I didn't like Marsha). --------------------- I also don't care for Maureen; I call her "Maureen the whiner". I think some dancers have been systematically underscored (Calvin and Jana) and some overscored (Terra and Marilu). Ryan is just mediocre and boring, which perhaps the best he can hoe for. At least he isn't looking childish and entitled!
Funny that the G household seems to be at its hap-hap-happiest with one of the children missing. At least that's the impression I'm getting from TFW's manic posts.
From the pictures Milo has posted, she lives in an isolated wooded area. Can't imagine anyone interested in hub's truck, LOL. She really is a psycho liar like Kate.
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Well that's another reason her story makes no sense. She gives of a "doors unlocked" down home vibe to the life she claims she has. Wouldn't you be beyond disturbed that suddenly your quiet little woodsy lifestyle has a robber traipsing through it? Wouldn't you be extremely alarmed? The FIRST thing I would wonder is if I were being specifically targeted.
I lived in downtown when my car was robbed. Although it was traumatic, I wasn't shocked. I knew for sure it was just a random crime and that car theft is just a part of living in a high density area. But if I had been robbed when I lived in the sticks? I would have been downright disturbed.
I felt violated when my car was broken into a few years ago, and they din't even take anything (I had nothing for them to take). It took weeks to feel normal again, and I know many people who take much longer than that to move on from something like that. Milo? Gimme a break with your fantasies. ****** We've had some car break-ins recently. Mostly just crimes of opportunity with unlocked vehicles and taking change. But, they're also looking for keys to your car, your other car and your home. A neighbor had their SUV tires stolen. All 4 of them, with the car resting on milk crates so that it didn't make noise when it dropped! Heck, that got my attention! Sure, my dogs bark at people outside, and that's great. But, not as great as the motion sensor flood lights, dusk to dawn lights and security cameras we've installed! It is no little matter when your property is invaded or stolen. It shakes you to your core-the sense of violation. Our neighbors report it to the police immediately, and get on www.nextdoor.com to let the rest of us know.
But if I had been robbed when I lived in the sticks? I would have been downright disturbed. ****** Which is exactly why Jon has a gun. When he lived in the sticks, it was a good idea. Way more effective than a Flying Monkey with rat claws. Puleez.
But I sincerely mean this, we as a nation are at a huge crossroads no matter which of these 2 clowns wins. It makes me very sad to think of where we are going as a country for the sake of my grandchildren.
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Kylie, I understand your sentiments. I do agree there has been a real intolerance out there for legitimate fears. People are guilted and shamed into just putting those aside because anything else must support the alleged "rape culture" people think is around every corner. I know some people feel very strongly that certain things should be a deal breaker. But that's easy to say when you have a good job, a healthy retirement, live in a safe town, and have lots of opportunities ahead. That's not how the average middle American lives, and I don't blame people for being much more worried about how an individual candidate is going to address the job market or health insurance than what that individual did ten years ago. At the end of the day if they agree much more with Candidate A's policies on jobs over Candidate B's, it's not going to much matter what transgressions Candidate A has committed (or even, what B has done either). People don't seem to understand that it's a separate issue whether behavior is relevant to individual voters as to electing someone for office, versus whether such behavior would be okay for them if it were their dad, or son or husband---or mother, grandmother, or wife.
Another fascinating point John Colbelt made the other day, he is so spot on sometimes and has an incredible memory for the day to day history of politics. He pointed out that somewhat commendably, back in the 90's the Clintons successfully were able to convince people that sexual activities no matter how young and vulnerable the woman or even if it was assault, are a private matter and has nothing to do with the office. Remarkably, they saved his presidency and are still key players today. Now that the shoe is on the other foot apparently it has everything to do with it. Although in fairness, Hillary rightly has kept her mouth shut about this issue. She knows how hypocritical it would be, and to her credit, she's shushed up. It's just some of her supporters who have short term memories about her role in the history of political sexcapades.
The photo of her son driving was something i remember her uploading last year
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The photos she has of her children are likely swiped from a friend's, sister's, or niece's account and then passed off as her own. Their could very well be a photo of someone's son driving, which Milo saved and collected. This is just what catfish do. She is a slave though to how often her friend posts. Therefore if someone wanted a photo of her kid riding a bike, she wouldn't be able to produce it unless her friend had posted something like that before.
From the pictures Milo has posted, she lives in an isolated wooded area. Can't imagine anyone interested in hub's truck, LOL. She really is a psycho liar like Kate.
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I haven'tn read Milo's comments about the truck break-in, but Milo recently posted a picture of her driving down a long private road to her house. The road dead-ended at a gate. Did the thief jump the gate, run around it or what? If that's possible, what is the purpose of the gate?
Milo confuses the heck out of me. I really do think she/he is a catfish and isn't very good at it anymore, screwing up and not remembering what has been tweeted before.
Wow, she's really pulling out all the stops. Video of Shoka and his cake, and everyone singing? But where are the puppies? Weren't they invited for this "very special episode"?
kateplusmy8 Shoka's birthday celebration..had the same dinner as we did (rotisserie chicken, rice and steamed carrots; he skipped the green beans😜) and then ate his ENTIRE cake! #8YearsOld #LoveHimSOMuch
If this is what TLC is planning on putting out there, this should seal her demise. Not only does it appear fake, it looks totally ridiculous, and not at all the K8 people have known for almost 10 years.
Needless to say, Milo approved.
miloandjack2016 LOL. Is this a spoiled and oh so loved dog! ❤ I see that lil peck on his head didn't distract him from his cake! I forgot what you said was in that? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And what a fine meal he had! Fit for a King! You have him sit at the table & eat w/you all? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 BTW...how is #Mak doing? Is that paw getting better? I know you are more than ready to unleash him & let him run and play again! @kateplusmy8
And she dropped her joy on Twitter, too:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 32m32 minutes ago Remembering 8yrs ago a lil dog was born who changed the Gosselin family forever! #CheersToShoka http://r.ddmcdn.com/w_516/s_f/o_1/cx_0/cy_9/cw_516/ch_344/TLC/uploads/2014/06/storymaker-gosselins-puppies-pictures14-515x363-1.jpg … … @kateplusmy8
All This is That, MSNBC had a segment on the rape accusations tonight. Here's some additional info: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawsuit-accusing-trump-raping-girl-13-december-hearing-article-1.2828413
All This Is That said... 29 Margaret Meade @DonutsForCollin 6h6 hours ago @PietheNoot @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 Trump has court date for bondage & rape of a 13y/o Nov.
Is this true? I can't find anything on the internet about this. -----------------
Yes, a civil suit. That story has been around for months but is getting very little play, which I find interesting, to say the least.
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One, like you said it's a civil suit, which anyone can file. People perk up more when it's criminal charges which have to meet certain evidentiary requirements to be filed.
Bill Clinton's got that civil suit that has more or less become a footnote with people hardly ever bringing it up and many thinking she was full of it. For better or worse I think people generally assume if it wasn't enough to warrant criminal charges, who much cares about the civil suit.
Shoka had a cake? Did the bird help frost it like the kids' cake a couple years ago? This gets more ridiculous by the second. I guess her fans don't care she originally sent Shoka and Nala away because she hated the dogs. It's so fake.
There's something wrong about the floor story. I'll admit I don't know lots about dogs. But she is claiming Maks has a sprained paw. Out of boredom, he scratches the floors where he sits, I guess with the unsprained paw. Rather than crating him or putting him outside in beautiful weather, Kate gives him a piece of linoleum and he promptly scratches through it to the same floor she didn't want him scratching. She doesn't try to train him not to scratch out of boredom. Makes no sense.
Uh oh looks like some fans aren't happy with all the dog pictures being posted jacid34@errington_bound I feel this account is ALL about this dog. I should just unfollow!And of course Milo had to make an excuse for this. miloandjack2016 Some folks complaining about not seeing more pics of your kids. I think people should just appreciate your taking the time to share bits & pieced of your life! All your kids are getting into teen yrs soon. They are more sensitive about their appearance...and not always willing for Mom to take pics and post on #IG. I think we will get a full fun update soon when the new #KatePlus8 series begins! #patience. Thanks for sharing....@kateplusmy8. ❤
There's something wrong about the floor story. I'll admit I don't know lots about dogs. But she is claiming Maks has a sprained paw. Out of boredom, he scratches the floors where he sits, I guess with the unsprained paw. Rather than crating him or putting him outside in beautiful weather, Kate gives him a piece of linoleum and he promptly scratches through it to the same floor she didn't want him scratching. She doesn't try to train him not to scratch out of boredom. Makes no sense.
_____________________ She's setting things up for Mak's departure. Excuses. Mak is untrainable, bored, and therefore she will just keep her favorite, the female puppy. When she, sobs, has to find a new home for Mak, Milo will do the damage control, saying that well, you can't blame Kate, can't have expensive floors destroyed, she KNOWS it is breaking Kate's heart to give up the dog, ad nauseam.
Thanks, KIAT and admin. So it wasn't criminal charges and he wasn't arrested. I was wondering about that, why it wasn't a major story in the election and how he could be a candidate if he were charged with rape.
I agree with the fan, the all-dog all the time account is stupid and boring. Unless the photo really is cute or there is something viral about it, boring. Not that she should post pictures of the kids, but surely there is something more interesting about her life she could post about. She needs more variety to the account. Some dogs are fine, but make sure it's truly cute or interesting or funny, and splice it in with other topics. It's remarkable how inept she is and unaware of what fans are looking for from an instagram account. She has ALL DAY to look over successful celeb instagram accounts for ideas.
And look at Milo throwing out feelers to get her to remark about the show again. You don't even know when it is airing, Milo, and I don't think Kate does either. LOL.
Admin (#40), and Gladys sticks her foot in her mouth once again. Yes, teens DO get sensitive about their appearances. So what a shame it is that they are ALL contractually required to have these awkward years captured on film. How does Gladys reconcile that?
Looks like Barb is 2nd-in-command to Milo over on IG now. Really, be glad that Kate is "taking time out" to post? Are you serious? WTF else does she have to do all day? Do these people really not get that the whole struggling SAHM of 8 schtick is a fabrication?
barbgilmer1 @miloandjack2016 @kateplusmy8 That's right folks, be glad Kate is taking time out to post on #IG! Remember you can't always have your cake and eat it too folks! Or remember good things come to those who wait! 😉
Milo certainly is beating her chest in self-importance acting as Kate's spokesperson and go-to person for everything that is Kate. Wouldn't you think that it would drive Kate really nuts to have a pest like this follow her around, speaking for her, and inserting herself into her life? I would have told Gladys years ago to shut the heck up.
The sad thing is that Milo either doesn't know that she is a laughingstock or she knows but just doesn't care. When you think about it, it's really pathetic.
I also don't think she's realizing that much like the children there's nothing special about the dogs. They're not even unusually cute. When I see German shepherds I don't really think "cute." They are beautiful, aesthetically pleasing, intelligent, expertly bred dogs, but not particularly "cute" like other breeds. Bottom line she really doesn't get it, and it was only a matter of time before she would start to frustrate the fans.
I'm not even convinced her show will ever air. There might always be some excuse not to air it. By the time it does, even if it aired today, the kids are so much older than when they filmed the episodes, further frustrating fans, who want to see current stuff.
Kate is a twit said... 16 What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors -------------
Kate's laundry room has a linoleum floor. She probably locked Mak in there after he scratched her wood floors and then he ripped up the floor in the laundry room.
She just got confused in telling the details of her "story".
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That makes sense and is probably the most likely explanation for her linoleum use and replacement. TY :-)
On the one hand, Milo says that teens are more sensitive about their appearance on IG, but on the other, she can't wait to see their lives splashed across her tv screen. They either want privacy or they don't. I'm glad the kids aren't used for her 'sodes on IG and Twitter as much, but have my doubts that she will ever protect them as long as they live under her roof. Also, the longer she goes without uttering a word about Colin, the more icky the entire thing feels. Unless he's home and/or is out of treatment, he's been gone a long time. That HAS to be taking a toll on the other kids. Can you imagine how emotionally difficult this must all be on them? Divorce, parents hate each other and don't even speak, kids don't see Dad and now a sibling has been sent away from the home. This reads like a tragedy, not some fun tv show.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 41 Admin (#40), and Gladys sticks her foot in her mouth once again. Yes, teens DO get sensitive about their appearances. So what a shame it is that they are ALL contractually required to have these awkward years captured on film. How does Gladys reconcile that? ***** How do the sheep reconcile that? Let me count the ways ;-)
Kate HAS to film! She cant go back to nursing! Kate has no other means of supporting 8 kids being a single mom of 8! Jon is a deadbeat dad! The kids get to do fun stuff! The kids and Kate get free stuff! The crew are their Daddies!
The puppies are really cute and look like they are going to be gorgeous dogs. However, Kate sucks at photography! If she were Ree Drummond, she could make a doggy calendar out of her photos. But, they're just "meh" and ordinary, and they are just not enough to drive an IG account. Plus, the fans are truly selfish and have come to expect seeing the kids on a regular basis. They are turning on her because they demand it.
I AGREE! Mak is n the way out! Scratching her precious wood floor. Hurt paw. He did not get hurt from Shoka. Something smells. I bet she locks that dog up while the kids are in school. Meanwhile, the female gets the lovey treatment. Kate is a beast. She is NOT an animal lover. NO WAY.
Not only does Milo point out the hypocrisy of kids not wanting to show themselves and then have to film, I don't know a single teenage girl that doesn't flood her social media account with selfies.
Jbranck1980 ****** I think Kate should just let the twins have their own social media and decide what they want to put out there. At 16, I'm betting they already have had several. Not just running an IG account for a bird. I bet that got boring quick.
Tucker's Mom (#51), oh, I definitely agree that the twins are probably all over social media. I bet they're ten times more tech savvy than TFW, and have figured out how to do everything without her knowledge.
Lynne In RI (#43), I think it's win-win for Gladys. If people see her as a spokesperson for TFW, she gets her ego boosted. If they make fun of her, she's a martyr for the cause. Either way, she gets attention.
In Touch has exclusively obtained three never-before-seen police reports that detail Kate Gosselin's bombshell and criminal allegations against her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin.
According to the police report, filed on April 24th, 2015, Kate claimed that Jon “kidnapped” [their daughter] Hannah, taking her from her school. She also charged to police that:
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
“Jon didn’t even know all of what Kate had accused him of until he saw the police report himself,” explains the insider. “He believes Kate will stop at nothing to get what she wants — even if it means lying to police. She has no boundaries.”
Kate summoned police again on April 27, 2015 because, she told an officer, she feared her gun-owning ex would engage her in “a hostile dispute.” She even added that she’d “detect[ed] suspicious behavior” between him and their child.
“Jon had no idea at the time that she accused him of having an inappropriate relationship with Hannah,” says the insider. “He was upset when he found out.” The police records, obtained by In Touch, show that Kate called cops three times in five days, and the officer that responded to the call refused to get involved and “informed her this was a custody/civil matter, to be handled in court.”
Which is exactly what they did — at an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate’s accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn’t want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8. ____
She accused him of an inappropriate relationship with his daughter? She really will stop at nothing. I wonder if TLC was fully apprised of this lunacy. Just on this basis, they should never ever do business with her again. Disgusting.
Well, even though it doesn't excuse Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody. She filed 3 reports in 5 days. It's clear she will stop at nothing to destroy him if he gets in her way. If these are the tales she's been telling her kids, then it's understandable why the twins are calling him toxic. She is one whacko looney tune, and the sooner someone shuts her down, the better.
Ok so let me ask this. If the police refused to get involved because it was a "custody" and "civil" matter, is that why "Jon doesn't just call the cops" like people claim he can, so that he can see Collin? Maybe they won't do anything to help him and he really does have to go to court every time he wants to fight her
I can't believe she accused him of inappropriate behavior or inappropriate relationship with his daughter. She's sick. And evil.
@Sad but true I wonder what excuse the sheeple will say now?Just how far would they go to say Jon is either selling a story by accusing Kate of making these accusations towards him.Would they believe Kate's accusations?SMH maybe they'll ignore it as usual and say Kate never said that.
Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon.
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
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...and Kate isn't a wine guzzler? Let's see. There was an episode in which she was seen three sheets to the wind. Was it appropriate for the kids to see her in that condition, even if it happened while she was away filming?
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
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Oh my god she's NUTS. Waa-waa Jon has a beer in front of the kids. The cops must have really laughed their asses off at that one as they went home and popped their own cold ones in front of their kids.
Look further at the police report. She practically implies he molested Hannah. She detects "suspicious" behavior between Hannah and him. Bitch, seriously?
CLASSIC parental alienation, with imagined sexual abuse, drug dealing, and all the typical fantasies.
Good for the cops telling her to piss off.
If you don't believe she's a parental alienator now, I don't know what to tell you. These kids don't have a prayer. No wonder the twins are brainwashed. They think Daddy molested Hannah. Called this one a mile away. I said it, the next step in parental alienation is imagining sexual abuse is occuring.
Sad but true said... 57 Well, even though it doesn't excuse Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody. _________
Yep, as I've said all along when people said Jon should call the police when Kate won't cooperate regarding custody. She's absolutely nuts, and Jon knew if he instigated a call, it would be on him that he put her in a rage saying who knows what. Plus the cops aren't going to get involved anyway. Kate's just like that crazy Betty Broderick/
Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody. She filed 3 reports in 5 days.
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And, that any time the cops are called, allegations of sexual abuse might come out. Kate, you are a monster.
Honestly, I don't know what to tell Jon. There is no way to get around this psycho. He's screwed. He can only wait until the kids are 18 and hope for the best.
She's lucky she doesn't live in L.A. like I think she wanted to. You start accusing the other parent of molesting your kid and it's not true, we take the kids from YOU and give them to him. Done, it's over.
Our court actually recognizes the incredible damage that such false allegations cause.
Well, no, they'll get involved if it's YOUR custodial time and you have the order in your hands. Absolutely they will. And they'll turn over the kids. What the cops apparently said to Kate is when she was making ALLEGATIONS they said you need to deal with that in court we're not gonna do anything. THAT they're not going to get involved in and play judge. They are there to enforce orders, not mediate family law cases. Good for them.
But I do agree by the same token when they interview Kate, there she blows about drug dealing and sexual abuse. So even if they were to turn over his kids, the trade off is she will run her mouth with false allegations that even though *I* know would go nowhere in court without evidence, I understand would really scare the pants off someone if YOU are the one being accused of it. I get it, Jon, and I'm sorry.
I do so like though how the cops were apparently like yeah yeah whatever Kate, go to family law court. Lol. I think she expected them to cart Jon off in handcuffs. Not happening.
I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations.
If we take the approach some people would like that all allegations such as this must be believed, a good father who never did anything ends up in jail.
Each case and its facts must be weighed individually, and that while alleged victims should be treated with dignity and respect, so too should the facts be given their due examination and weight.
I don't think anyone here believes this for one second, but under this so-called end-rape-culture, we are called to believe it first and ask questions later. Frightening.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 67 I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations. _____
It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants.
You know Hannah never said (or implied) that anything inappropriate happened with her dad. This is all an absolutely slanderous fabrication by Kate. Because one of her kids dared defy her. And with what is known about Collin (and what Hannah apparently told her dad about it), I wonder if it isn't time to revisit the court about who's really got the best interests of the children uppermost in mind.
TLC, BUY A CLUE and get this destructive PoS off the air. She's as bad if not worse than the Duggars.
Good for the police for not getting involved with this maniac. It must have been terrifying for Jon to know she accused him of such horrific behaviour. This proves she will stop at nothing in order to destroy him. The article mentions this happened a year-and-a-half ago, during a time she was not been getting the media attention she has grown accustomed to. Just wondering if she was hoping this would become public at that time ensuring her the pity attention she craves and ignoring as usual the damage this causes the children. She has struck a new low - time for TLC to cancel this monster forever - and let these children get the help they need to heal.
Sheeple can't deny she said it---InTouch has copies of the police reports. She said it, all right. Now the question is, how far are her surrogates going to go to try to make others believe it?
Is this what you wanted, Kate? Hannah's PHOTO smeared all over the tabs with your disgusting allegations of a "suspicious" relationship between your ex and his daughter? No, of course not. You just wanted it all YOUR way with no consequences that could track back to you. Too bad, so sad, this is going to blow up in your lying, reconstructed face.
What's sad is that I am not the least bit surprised that TFW would sink that low. She is a deeply disturbed individual. It's not just greed, or pettiness, or narcissism. I think she's much closer to being a sociopath.
We've seen that her goal is to win at all costs. And if keeping her kids away from her ex -- even when it would actually HELP her in a million ways to have him in her life and theirs -- means she wins, then, well, nothing will stop her. The damage she is doing to the minds and hearts of those 8 children is absolutely sickening.
It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants.
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But in parental alienation cases they come from the victim all the time, after mom brainwashes them into believing it happened.
We don't know what Hannah would say about this, no one has published any comments from her about it one way or another. It's not like it's a topic on TLC!
Even if Hannah said it are you saying you would then believe it?
Even if Hannah said it are you saying you would then believe it? _____
I'd certainly give it a much harder look, but ALL indications are that she still happily goes for visitation (as she has consistently done now for many years). And the judge sided with Jon. Do you think that Hannah was forced to come in and give testimony? What kind of "mother" does this to her KID, forget about her hated ex? If this doesn't force TLC to dump her, then nothing will.
Weren't some of Kate fans accusing Robert of doing the same thing?I remember hearing them making up alot of stories about Robert.Like i remember Ziggy made up a story about how there's proof that he abused Shoka and i also remember hearing the conspiracy that Robert and his wife were long time haters who've hated Kate since the birth of the 6.I wouldn't be shocked if Kate or her fans accused Robert of doing something like this.
Oh absolutely. A harder look would be totally appropriate. That's all fine. But apparently some women want us to just believe it, without a hard look at the evidence, the context, etc. That is a scary, scary thought to our justice system. And to folks like Jon.
I have no idea what that poor child was put through and whether she was asked about these allegations. I hope it didn't even get that far. Clearly she is a happy child who adores her dad and even sometimes has defected to him. She has a good relationship with him DESPITE her parental alienating mother. And I wouldn't have expected it as much from her, Kate's golden child. Go figure.
What's the timeline here in terms of what was happening last year? Was this anywhere around about the time Shawn Tuma was sticking it to her good?
Remember how Milo always hints there's just things we don't know about Jon, blah blah, things we don't understand about the situation. Hint hint, hem-haw. I'm betting a million bucks right now Kate been DMing people like her telling them Jon is a child molester and a danger to his kids. A million bucks.
What's sad is that I am not the least bit surprised that TFW would sink that low. She is a deeply disturbed individual
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100%. Just like Milo is right on track with her celebrity worship, Kate is right on track with her parental alienation. She's textbook. She's going chapter by chapter, and I'm not even kidding, the last chapter is "accuse the other parent of sexual abuse."
@Admin (77) Lets say that the story is true and that Kate does DM her fans something like this.Then why isn't Kate as the mother who'd go to the worlds end to protect her kids(according to her fans)not doing everything she can to save them from Jon?Its funny how the fans say if Kate's abuse is true then she wouldn't have custody of her kids and yet wouldn't they think Jon would be thrown in jail if Kate has proof?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 79 What's the timeline here in terms of what was happening last year? Was this anywhere around about the time Shawn Tuma was sticking it to her good? _____
It's much later, at least 18 months after the case against Jon was dismissed with prejudice and probably 16 or so months after she "dropped" the case against Hoffman.
This clearly is that time last year when it was reported Hannah didn't want to return "home" from visitation (dates of these reports to police by Kate are last week of April 2015). I hope that this prompts someone to take a closer look at what's been going on with Collin. He's not the emotionally disturbed one in that household---or at least not the only one.
Poor Hannah. I think when the kids have finally had enough of their mother, the rebelling will be epic.
She just turned up the DEFCON from a 4 to a 1.
Admin, does Jon have a chance in hades to sue her for false allegations, defamation and slander?
He needs to be awarded all of her precious money in the overseas bank accounts.
I hope Steve is happy. He is making money daily with dividends off the overseas money, working as her bodyguard/road manager/bf and off the backs of the children and their mentally ill mother.
Could Jon sue Kate for defamation over these unfounded claims of drug dealing and inappropriate behavior with Hannah.Not that he would, just curious if he would have a good legal argument.
What an awful, awful person she is. It just gets worse all the time. She cannot leave Jon alone. I hope she finally gets what is coming to her.
As for her dogs. She and Milo sure do seem to be overly proud of the fact that they are all KING Shepherds. I never heard of them before. We have a German Shepherd, you know just a run of the mill regular vs. KING Shepherd. IMO they are not nearly as pretty as the regular Shepherds. Too hairy for me. I do love Shepherds. They are so very loyal.
If Jon were to sue, would Jon have to prove he didn't do it or would she-devil have the burden of proof to prove they are true? She would have to submit evidence.
Now Mady's use of the word, Toxic, makes clear sense now.
Can't believe she can't be court ordered for a psychological evaluation to be declared mentally fit to be a parent. She is truly sick.
Who could the source be? Who gets copies of police reports? It's got to be somebody who is an acquaintance of Jon's which tells me it was done with his permission. Something must be going on. Not good publicity for Kate. Perhaps a message to TLC if you air her shows it could get ugly.
Even if Jon did sue for slander, it's not going to help the children. I can see where he would want to sue because what she said about him does damage his reputation, not that I believe he behaved inappropriately.
I don't know if it would be worth it for Jon to sue. I'm sure it would be a difficult case and he might not want to do that to Hannah. The issue is now that her allegations are public does it destroy his business. History shows her believed by the public.
Since she was dating Jeff when the accusations were made, perhaps she was invisioning accusing Jon of mistreatment might be the last mail in the coffin regarding his daddy duties? She could finally back the bus over him on last final time and replace him with new daddy Jeff. Jon needs to lawyer up. Enough is enough. Either that or wait until the kids reach adulthood and figure out which parent truly cares about them.
Who could the source be? Who gets copies of police reports? It's got to be somebody who is an acquaintance of Jon's which tells me it was done with his permission. ===============
InTouch could have filed a FOIA request to get copies of the police reports. Don't forget, that's how they uncovered the scandal about Josh Duggar.
InTouch was also the tab that first reported the incident with Kate and Jon last year. It could be they were doing follow up on that incident, and it's taken this long for them to receive the police reports.
Of course, that doesn't mean that Jon or a source had nothing to do with it. But I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that that they did.
TLC stinks said... 61 Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon. October 19, 2016 at 7:34 AM ***** I think he smokes weed, but accusing him of dealing drugs in on another level. I really wonder if the cops are just plain sick of her sh*t after all these years. The PA police helped her SO MUCH back in 2008-9. After reading Robert's book, I began to think that this was some fun action for them-sort of like protecting and escorting Princess Di. Their little hamlet was getting world-wide attention, and it must have been a bit heady in a way. But this is plain abuse of the system. If I'm understanding correctly, Kate accused Jon of kidnapping, selling drugs and sexually abuse of a minor. Holy f*ckballs, Batman, the wrong Gosselin is in treatment.
If you don't believe she's a parental alienator now, I don't know what to tell you. These kids don't have a prayer. No wonder the twins are brainwashed. They think Daddy molested Hannah. Called this one a mile away. I said it, the next step in parental alienation is imagining sexual abuse is occuring.
****** I'm not surprised that Kate has implied sexual abuse by Jon. Not at all. From the moment SHE FILED for divorce, stating that (basically) her hand was forced because of Jon's actions, I knew she was out to destroy him. "Jon stated that it is Kate who wanted the divorce,[11] while Kate stated that "Jon's activities" left her with "no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect" herself and the children."
Cue the lawsuit Kate filed against Jon, where she said on the Today show: "It has to be done for the safety and the future of my kids," she told TODAY's Savannah Guthrie." http://www.today.com/popculture/kate-gosselin-suing-jon-it-has-be-done-safety-future-4B11242627
This has been Kate's m.o. since the marriage went under.
Well, no, they'll get involved if it's YOUR custodial time and you have the order in your hands. Absolutely they will. And they'll turn over the kids. What the cops apparently said to Kate is when she was making ALLEGATIONS they said you need to deal with that in court we're not gonna do anything. THAT they're not going to get involved in and play judge. They are there to enforce orders, not mediate family law cases. Good for them. ****** To me, shit like this goes to Kate's rage. This ain't Kate's first rodeo. She's a litigious S.O.B. and has seen more of the inside of a courtroom than some lawyers. She has sued, brought lawsuits, attempted to sue, been brought to court and God knows what else. Point is, Kate knows damn well that the cops don't deal with accusation of Jon drinking in front of the kids and allegations of dealing drugs. She knows damn well that she should contact her attorney and file in court if she wants to address it. But, she was pissed as hell and she wanted something done NOW!
Way to go, Kate. First Collin's most private life is offered up to the tabloids, and now Hannah's. I don't believe Kate's insinuations of suspicious behavior, but now it's all over the gossip rags. How is Hannah supposed to deal with this?
I can't help but think there were some serious problems at the G8 household in early 2015 that resulted in Collin's banishment and Hannah's refusal to return home.
But not to worry, Kate's a very loving person. You can tell by the way she loves her dogs.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 66 She's lucky she doesn't live in L.A. like I think she wanted to. You start accusing the other parent of molesting your kid and it's not true, we take the kids from YOU and give them to him. Done, it's over. ***** Remember when Whoopie chewed her out for calling the cops on Jon's custody time? That could have ended badly for her and Whoopie let her know it!
Sad but true said... 70 Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 67 I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations. _____
It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants. ******* Really great point. Kate has shown over and over how much she hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
TLC, BUY A CLUE and get this destructive PoS off the air. She's as bad if not worse than the Duggars. October 19, 2016 at 8:20 AM ****** I put Kate right up there with Jim Boob. It's Kate that's toxic, and maybe TLC realized it after so many incidents like this. It just furthers the point that the kids need privacy. To add to the list I wrote earlier, before I came home and found this unbelievable revelation. Tack onto the list a mother who is accusing their father of incest (she's sure as hell insinuating it), kidnapping and drug dealing. Who in their right mind sits around the executive table and thinks, "Wellllllllllll, yeah, so there's the divorce, the scandals, the fracture of relationships all around, criminal accusations and a child in such dire straights he's removed from the home. Let's keep filming the crap out of these kids" Who the heck says this without needing to take a shower and go to confession afterwards?
I was just rereading the case of the McMartin Preschool sexual abuse charges. The woman who made the initial charge was diagnosed with acute schizophrenia and died of chronic alcoholism before the prelimiary hearing of the case even took place.
Maybe a few more nutzo police calls and accusations and Kate will get carted away for a mental evaluation. It's great that a police report is on file for that particular outburst.
The dealing drugs allegation is absolutely outrageous, and she is off her rocker to say. It is worlds apart from accusing him of doing a little pot.
Which, let's be honest, tons of parents have done a little pot. And in many areas, it's actually completely legal to do so, it will soon be legal in still others, and in most other areas, it's not a law usually enforced.
There is a whole other level of danger and criminal liability to DEALING in it. Really, that's almost as bad as accusing your ex of sexual abuse.
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.” She said that she 'did not want to go home to her mommy.'" http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/10/19/jon-gosselin-kidnapped-daughter-hannah-drug-dealer-police-report/
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
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Now that we know through the actual police reports the incident with Hannah did indeed occur (once again, an incident that sounded truthful is again proven to be just that, sorry sheep), it sure makes some of the other reports more credible.
It sounds like the turmoil in the house upset Hannah, and I don't blame her. In defense of Steve, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is fully aware of her mental health issues and DOES get into it with her as he tries to talk her back down from outer space. That may result in some yelling even though he's just tryign to help her. We've seen him stand up to her before, he pushes right back. In any case don't blame the poor kid for being upset.
If she does this to Jon, and Steve, imagine TLC trying to deal with her and her demands and the things she will do to get her way. It wouldn't even be worth it when they have so many other shows they can put energy into.
Admin (#96), I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but there seems to be a huge, glaring credibility issue with this story. If TFW sincerely believes her ex is capable of sexual misconduct with one child, wouldn't she keep ALL of her children away from him? As in ZERO contact?
Milo is going way overboard in her IG posts. She posted the following on IG with a picture of Shoka as a puppy:
miloandjack2016#ThrowBackPic 8 yrs ago a one of a kind King Shepherd pup was born... Whose future included the healing of a heart broken & torn. He helped a special Mom of eight... His life long human his master named Kate! #ShoutOutToShoka. ❤
Then one of the replies said:
nick_moyHow true and poetic. You are an incredibly great and special friend to be by your side.
IMO, this is somewhat over the top stalking. She can't just post on Kate's IG, she has to use her own IG account to promote Kate and pretend that she's Kate's BFF.
If I were Kate, I'd find this obsessive behavior very disturbing. But then, I'm not Kate.
I was just rereading the case of the McMartin Preschool sexual abuse charges. The woman who made the initial charge was diagnosed with acute schizophrenia and died of chronic alcoholism before the prelimiary hearing of the case even took place.
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Anyone who wants to have an opinion about sex abuse scandals must read all about that case first before concluding that victims should just be believed and anything else is anti-women/rape culture/feminism.
Although my comments aren't showing up, I'll just keep trying. LOL
A link to be above comment:
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
If TFW sincerely believes her ex is capable of sexual misconduct with one child, wouldn't she keep ALL of her children away from him? As in ZERO contact?
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I fully believe she's tried, and succeeded with some of them. The twins, Collin. But alienation is her only course of action. If the courts don't believe the allegations and have ordered him to see his kids, unless she can sway her kids not to go (and Jon won't enforce the visitation), she's gotta let the visits occur.
She is going to be in for a rude awakening when these kids grow adult brains and realize Jon's not evil, and then realize how much she robbed from them.
Anonymous said... 99 Wasn't Hanna the one who, it's been said, objected to TFW's treatment of Collin? ______
Yes, and that was a part of the story that has since evolved into allegations of kidnapping, drug dealing, and "suspicious" behavior. As I recall, Hannah complained to Jon about Kate being "mean" to Collin. And I'm sure that's not the half of it.
KIAT (#113), Gladys should've put an asterisk next to that "life long human" line in the Shoka poem. She always forgets the dog was sent away with his sister, only to come back alone.
And Gladys can try to rewrite history all she wants, but it all began the kids thanking TFW for the puppies, and her snottily responding, "You're not welcome!" I will never be convinced that woman is now in love with a large, hairy, jumping, shedding, barking animal.
I would bet that the kids (including the twins) have NO idea what Kate has told the police and the court about Jon. The kids continued to see Jon after she made her accusations because a judge said he could. But I bet Jon is too much of a decent human being to ever inform his children of just what "Mommy" accused him of. Unfortunately for them, now not only they, but the whole world, is finding out.
If only the children realized, all they have to do now is refuse to film and TALK to people who have an interest in their welfare (e.g., school admin and teachers) about what Mommy is doing. If they show up on "set" with no smile and a bad attitude, what's Figure 8 and TLC gonna do? Sue 'em? No f---ing way.
@Admin BTW you said in an old post that Hannah is the golden child to Kate.I don't think thats true anymore ever since the whole Hannah outrage a year ago.Its definitely Mady especially after the whole people magazine clown fiesta.
Tamara said... 116 So now Jon shouldn't use the police to ensure he sees all his children? I'm really confused on this.
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The police won't do anything. I remember posting a few times when the comments were made about Jon calling the police. My response then, as it is now, is that perhaps he didn't want to upset the kids when he knew darn well that the police will not get involved in custody issues.
Is Gladys on overtime duty in her spokesperson role to do damage control? I hope she gets paid well for her job. If she can't keep up, there's always Barb, Denise or Carlene to step in and offer assistance!
Tucker's Mom said... 96 I knew Kate would use Jon's DJ'ing career against him. I just had no idea how far she'd go.
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Oh, she will go far, believe me. She is a very scary person who is filled with hate and bent on revenge, and all because Jon wouldn't keep that little gravy train rolling.
What a witch!! First of all, my parents had a couple of beers every night while watching tv.
Second of all, if he were a drug dealer they would have discovered this after the complaint.
For her to insinuate sexual abuse is disgusting. The "suspicious" behavior she sees is probably Jon showing actual affection, something she knows nothing about. ANd I find getting foot rubs from your kids weird.
She should be charged with filing false reports.
Are the actual reports anywhere to view? I assume the "kidnapping" one is when Hannah didn't want to go home. Were the other one or two from the same incident? Sorry I probably should read more comments before I comment...I'm just gobsmacked
What made her think Jon would come by with a gun on that specific date (4/25/15)? Does anyone remember the tweet she sent out accidentally thinking it was a DM? This article about it was May 3 2015, and said the tweet was "last week" so that must have been what it was about:
“I’m in 24 hour protection mode here. Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?”
Ok so let me ask this. If the police refused to get involved because it was a "custody" and "civil" matter, is that why "Jon doesn't just call the cops" like people claim he can, so that he can see Collin? Maybe they won't do anything to help him and he really does have to go to court every time he wants to fight her
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That's how it happened with me. The cops were very nice but said give it til the end of the weekend if he doesn't bring her back call your lawyer
Saw one of those "I am" commercials on TLC the other day. While several shows/families were on there, no Gosselins. I wonder if that means they are finished?
I wonder how much money good ole Steve has made off the Gosselins in the 8 years he's been hanging around. A bundle, I have no doubt. Even when she was not filming, he was certainly still around. And I wonder if his function now is less to "bodyguard" the kids and more to help her "enforce" her will irrespective of their wishes.
I also just figured out why the dogs are there---they are hostages. If any kid steps out of line and refuses to film, that'll be the first threat, "well, then we won't be able to keep the dogs." After she's lavished the dogs with attention and encouraged the kids to get attached. This is so clearly her MO I'm ashamed it didn't occur to me before now. No kid is gonna say no to her if the price is the banishment of a beloved pet.
She must be stopped. And I hope TLC finds the balls to do so.
TLC stinks said... 61 Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon.
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Right? Weed seems almost more popular among college kids than beer these days.
“Kate doesn’t allow the kids to spend one minute longer with Jon than their allotted time,” an insider revealed to the publication. “She lashes out at Jon. It’s so sad.” In fact, the source believes that Kate actually made the allegations against him because she wanted to have Hannah back with her in time to film the family reality show Kate Plus 8.
^^^^^^ Yup, that would make Kate go ballistic. She's filming and having signed the kids up for filming, they are all obligated to be there. Sounds like Hannah might have wanted to avoid filming, too. Jon holding up production of the shit show because he's letting Hannah stay at his place could definitely make Kate go Postal.
Deliverence said... 115 Although my comments aren't showing up, I'll just keep trying. LOL
A link to be above comment:
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
Kate is a twit said... 113 Milo is going way overboard in her IG posts. She posted the following on IG with a picture of Shoka as a puppy:
miloandjack2016#ThrowBackPic 8 yrs ago a one of a kind King Shepherd pup was born... Whose future included the healing of a heart broken & torn. He helped a special Mom of eight... His life long human his master named Kate! #ShoutOutToShoka. ❤
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But then one day He was sent away. He and his sister Nala.
At least he had His friend and sis To comfort and Love each other
Than came the witch And tore them apart Now together Only in heart
Sad but true said... 130 I wonder how much money good ole Steve has made off the Gosselins in the 8 years he's been hanging around. A bundle, I have no doubt. Even when she was not filming, he was certainly still around. And I wonder if his function now is less to "bodyguard" the kids and more to help her "enforce" her will irrespective of their wishes. ****** Steve has always had an ulterior motive to keep those kids working and filming. I can't think that his intentions are pure regarding the welfare of the kids.
"Apparently it all began when, on April 23, 2015, Hannah visited Jon and refused to leave.
The police report says that Kate called the police and reported her missing. “Hannah was found safe with Jon,” the incident data sheet filed by the Lower Heidelberg Township, PA. police department read. After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.” She said that she “did not want to go home to her mommy.”
And while the incident looked like a closed case, Kate escalated the event, calling the police again and claiming that Jon had “kidnapped” Hannah. But it didn’t even stop there. “[Kate] told PD her ex-husband is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics,” the papers said. “She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
But perhaps worst of all, she also reportedly said that she believed Jon had left Hannah alone for a night without supervision. And then three days later she told police that she suspected him of “suspicious behavior” with Hannah. However, investigators found no evidence to suggest that Jon had harmed Hannah in any way.
“Kate doesn’t allow the kids to spend one minute longer with Jon than their allotted time,” an insider revealed to the publication. “She lashes out at Jon. It’s so sad.” In fact, the source believes that Kate actually made the allegations against him because she wanted to have Hannah back with her in time to film the family reality show Kate Plus 8.
But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
. This is so clearly her MO I'm ashamed it didn't occur to me before now ***** I've long thought that the pets were ultimately to keep the kids preferring being at the compound, being indebted to Kate, the self-proclaimed "Mother of the Year" for Bringing Shoka back, and most of all, threatening the pets' demise if the kids don't show Kate just how much they appreciate her letting them have everything she's worked so hard for (which is to say, if they refuse to film, it all goes away). I think Kate has told the kids the *everything* goes away if they don't film. Plus, she probably says that if Jon wasn't such a deadbeat, she wouldn't have to raise the ALL ALONE.
But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.” ****** Thing is, we've heard this before. Not that I know anything about what Jon has done or is doing, but it just seems like there's nothing every going to change until the kids turn 18.
Some puzzle pieces are falling in place regarding Mady's comments, Hannah's actions, and Collin's situation. There is probably so much we still don't know about. I feel terrible for Jon and the kids.
"But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
And I don't think she's gonna have TLC money to back her in a court fight this time. I hope she's done a lot of YouTube research, because I think her days on network TV are coming to an end.
Even the sheep can't support her claims. The comments on the Daily Mail site are almost 100% negative. She really has crossed the line with these allegations; TLC has to take note.
Anonymous said... 142 Even the sheep can't support her claims. The comments on the Daily Mail site are almost 100% negative. She really has crossed the line with these allegations; TLC has to take note.
bm ****** If these revelations don't open their eyes, nothing will. Anyone who's been through divorce with children has to ask themselves that if their child(ren) balked at coming home and wanted to stay with Dad longer, would they call the police and tell them the father kidnapped them? Or, would you have an adult conversation about why the children don't want to come home, and work it out reasonably? Then, they have to ask themselves if they would ever level allegations as sinister as incest? And please, don't tell me that there's ever been anything remotely hinky about Jon's behavior. He has been the more loving parent, by far.
Tucker's Mom said... 139 But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.” ****** Thing is, we've heard this before. Not that I know anything about what Jon has done or is doing, but it just seems like there's nothing every going to change until the kids turn 18.
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Yes we have, but that was usually about physical custody. Hopefully he is going to try and get joint or full legal custody and can have more of a say with his kids. If Wacky sent C away without telling him, he has an excellent case against her.
I just hope Kate doesn't get Madie to lie about being abused..seems like she goes along with Kate most of the time. ======== I don't think TFW would ask her to do this because if she did M would have to talk to professionals and I don't think she'd be able to pull it off the lie. AND if it ever came out that TFW encouraged her child to lie about something as serious as this there would be hell to pay.
TFW is just evil and the picture at the top of the blog depicts her perfectly. The only thing missing are the horns.
I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate.
Leslie said... 146 I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows. ***** Thanks for the heads up regarding how this travesty is once again making the national news. Once again, I don't know how these kids cope with all of this. Can you imagine your face and/or your parents faces being plastered across the internet and tv with the latest allegations, dirt and finger pointing going on between your divorced parents? Divorce all alone is an enormous emotional burden for children to handle. I don't know how the kids can handle knowing that this circus continues to be played out publicly, and it just never stops. I'd want to swallow myself up if I had to face school.
First, have always believed the pets were pawns to keep the kids in line and away from Jon, as in, if you leave to see your father, I will not take care of the pets or chickens. I think in particular this tactic affected Collin.
Second, the puppies were a bribe to film. Now poor Mak is not pleasing Kate. He's out.
Third, I've been waiting for a sexual abuse claim from her. That's the way her sick mind works. Revenge is what motivates her. Jon ruined her career by not playing along.
Such turmoil in that household. We've been predicting this for years. All the kids are going to be in counseling as adults. No.doubt.about.it.
Anyone who's been through divorce with children has to ask themselves that if their child(ren) balked at coming home and wanted to stay with Dad longer, would they call the police and tell them the father kidnapped them? Or, would you have an adult conversation about why the children don't want to come home, and work it out reasonably? ---------------------
I remember many years ago Dr. Laura Schlessinger talking about this very thing. She said it's not uncommon for kids of divorce once they reach a certain age to want to play this back & forth staying with their parents. One month they may be in good with Mom & want to stay there or vice versa. Her advice was to let them go ahead & bounce back & forth. If the parents are co-parenting well it really shouldn't be an issue. Of course therein lies the rub for Kate.
@Tucker's Mom 143 Even if what the fans claim about Jon is true and that he hates Kate more then he loves his kids or that he doesn't care about his kids.I seriously doubt he'd do something like that to Hannah and again like i said before,if this was true then why hasn't Kate tried everything she can to protect not just Hannah but all of her kids?Also i notice neither Milo or msgoody has said a word about this story,mainly becuase how can any supporter of Kate defend this?
Admin.- Do you think it is reasonable and very likely that TLC is now afraid to air the episodes they have in the can. All these very serious, empty threats about Jon are horrible and really speak to Kate's sickness of mind. And then Collin being separated from his family speaks to the seriousness of his on-going issues. Not to mention the two kids being kicked out of kindergarten for horrible behavior. And don't forgot all of the excessive and terrible garbage that came about in 2009/2010 when Jon and Kate divorced.That was documented by TLC and in numerous magazines.
In my mind, TLC should be frightened to be continuing filming this messed-up family. Maybe one or more of the eight kids will sue TLC down the road for filming their ENTIRE lives when they really could not give permission for them to do so. Maybe they will state that all of the public attention that TLC brought upon them damaged them and that TLC had plenty of evidence that their Mother was not of sound mind to be making the decision to put them on TV. Even if the kids don't win the lawsuit I highly doubt TLC wants it dragged publically through the courts.
I really hope this is the time TLC decides to cut the cord. The show is not that good anyway.
TLC stinks said... 147 Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate. ****** You know Kate and Steve argue like an old married couple. Remember when Kate marched Steve into the RV so she could bite his head off?
Then, they have to ask themselves if they would ever level allegations as sinister as incest? And please, don't tell me that there's ever been anything remotely hinky about Jon's behavior. He has been the more loving parent, by far. -------------------
Jon was just fine with the kids whenever it suited her needs, globetrotting around to book signings & public speaking engagements stopping home only long enough to reapply her manicured french tips & repack her bags for her next bodyguarded adventure.
Leslie said... 146 I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
Leslie said... 146 I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows. _______
According to Kate, they've been filming like a house a-fire for months. But maybe it hasn't been for TLC. Hmmm.
It wouldn't surprise me if neither TLC nor Figure 8 ever had the full story on last year's allegations until right now. There was a lot of speculation, but even in the interviews Jon did with Steve Harvey and others, he has never come close to divulging the depths of this disgusting behavior by Kate. I'm sure he kept his mouth shut to spare his children. But neither Figure 8 nor TLC will be able to ignore this going forward. They have to know that these sorts of accusations are a sure sign of Kate's mental instability and will not enhance her popularity. They can't pretend NOT to know after this, which surely increases their liability when it comes time for the kids to sue. Which I hope they do. She is ruining lives here and all the while telling us how much F.U.N. it is.
Can you imagine being at the awkward, insecure age of 12 and having to go to school after the world learned your mother accused your father of grabbing your......?
TLC stinks said... 147 Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate. _____
I don't think Jeff ever got that close. This has been going on for a very long time---remember the RV episodes ("Can we talk privately?") and talk from people nearby that there was a lot of yelling going on? For all intents and purposes, they're an old married couple whether they doing it or not. And Steve has been in the role of "stepdad" without any legal authority.
Tucker's Mom I thoroughly agree with you.I just wrote Admin. a post about this and ask if TLC should be afraid that one or more of the kids may sue down the line.It is disgusting that Kate insists that their highly dysfunctional lives be broadcast as a reality show expanding over 10 years now. Gee, what great family movies these shows are...NOT! Their entire lives have been documented. They is NO WAY that this is not affecting them. And it will continue to affect them more as they mature and gain the full understanding of it.
Kate's & Jon's families must be really upset over these allegations. I suspect they know Kate is nuts and Jon is a good guy. Yes, he has made mistakes but Kate has made many, many more than him. Her most fatal mistake is filming all her kids' lives for cash and fame. It is very obvious that this family has serious issues.
That bologna has a first name It's K A T I E That bologna has a last name It's P S Y C H O Oh, she loves to lie and accuse Jon of bad things everydayyyyyyyy Cause Katie Psycho needs to pay Please judge, send her lying @ away!
I don't think Jeff ever got that close. This has been going on for a very long time---remember the RV episodes ("Can we talk privately?") and talk from people nearby that there was a lot of yelling going on? For all intents and purposes, they're an old married couple whether they doing it or not.
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Yes. I have a funny feeling he sees his role as almost sort of a handler to her, an advisor. As if she were someone actually really famous who needs an entourage of advisors and he's at the top. Pathetic.
For her, it's more like a dysfunctional marriage I guess.
I think they talk about everything. Custody, Jon, her career, filming. They could have been bickering about anything.
I do think he seems rather humorless, and seems rather snippy with her at times, patronizing, and not very understanding. We've also observed him to step back and NOT defuse things he easily could defuse, such as telling her to chill out over the pizza he'll find something else. I don't like her of course, but I'm not particularly fond of how he treats her and the kids either. He kind of seems like an ass, really.
PA Dutch Mom said... 122 Tamara said... 116 So now Jon shouldn't use the police to ensure he sees all his children? I'm really confused on this.
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The police won't do anything. I remember posting a few times when the comments were made about Jon calling the police. My response then, as it is now, is that perhaps he didn't want to upset the kids when he knew darn well that the police will not get involved in custody issues. ----- I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once.
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I don't know what would bring her down if anything, but I do think most people really draw the line at this. Accusing your ex of sexual abuse when it's not true has to be about the most heinous thing anyone could ever do in a custody dispute. On so many levels. That's not just an attack on your ex, that's an attack on your own children.
I think a lot of women identify with Kate because they have had bad ex's. But even those would never dream of making shit up. There's you hate your ex, and there's you're being psycho. She's the latter.
At the very least, this could cause at least a small fleecing if not more, even if it happens quietly.
Think of all the times Jon has been asked about Kate since April 2015, and all the times he graciously chose not to bring up, by the way, my psycho ex has accused me of molesting my child. Chew on that.
I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
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The police WILL do something.
I think what we're saying at this point though is that we understand so much better now how much she will retaliate if he calls the cops, and wouldn't stop at accusing him of sexual abuse. That level of nut job really something to think about before you call the cops, I think everyone has some level of sympathy and understanding about that.
Remember all along we have been saying there's a missing piece here, what is it??? It was THIS.
Hey, does anyone remember when Kate accidentally tweeted a private DM where she was trying to figure out about a DJ gig of Jon's??? Can anyone find that, and the timing of that?
What was that, her "research" on all his drug deals to show the cops?
I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
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Maybe it depends where you are, and in what jurisdiction. I do know that in this area, the police are hands-off when it comes to a custody fight. Perhaps it's the same in Kate's county. They just don't want to get involved, and if there's nothing on the books that say that they are required to do so, they'll pass it off to the courts.
Right? Weed seems almost more popular among college kids than beer these days.
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Weed is EVERYWHERE, and it's more than just college kids. I know tons of people who do it, and see it all the time, and most of them are doing so legally here. You smell it all over LA. I can't tell you how many weed cases I've seen dismissed. People understand now the war on weed was racial and that weed is not any more harmful than alcohol. I only wish it didn't stink, because the smell is everywhere.
I actually prefer people to use weed rather than drink. For some reason people drink then drive home or they get aggressive. People who smoke weed tend to just hang out on the couch and not hurt anything or anyone, lol. Prop 64 is on the CA ballot this year to make weed legal and it's expected to pass with flying colors. It's also expected to create thousands of jobs and create a boom from the taxes. I'm voting yes.
Waaaa Jon smoked a joint? Kate, seriously get the stick out.
w that in this area, the police are hands-off when it comes to a custody fight. Perhaps it's the same in Kate's county. They just don't want to get involved, and if there's nothing on the books that say that they are required to do so, they'll pass it off to the courts.
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Police aren't supposed to get involved in terms of settling disputes, but they are supposed to enforce court orders. Therefore if you have a custody order that says you get your daughter on Saturday, and Dad is keeping her that Saturday, you need to show the cops your order and have them help you go get your daughter. They should, have to, help you enforce your piece of paper.
Now, here's an example of when they won't get involved. You call the cops because Dad took the kids to the zoo on his custody time, they came back sunburned, and cranky because they didn't get their nap, and you found out they stayed up all night the night before with him eating chocolate and popcorn and you're pissed. Then, the police are going to say go to court, because there's nothing for them to "enforce". They don't *make* family law decisions, they simply ENFORCE decisions that a judge already made.
If they are not helping you enforce an order, you really need to complain to your city or board of supervisors or whoever is their "boss." They need to enforce court orders, that's their job as law ENFORCEMENT.
I'd love to hear how those 3 phone calls went down.
I would guess her first call to the police was when Hannah didn't want to go home. She called and said her ex had kidnapped their daughter. That was probably after she stood outside his house screaming.
When the police found out that was bogus, she called and said her ex used his dj job as a cover for selling drugs, and oh, he drinks alcohol in front of the kids.
When THAT didn't work, she called and said her ex has a gun and she fears for her life.
And to think there's now a record of her vile, vengeful self. The sheep must be beside themselves trying to come up with excuses.
I remember many years ago Dr. Laura Schlessinger talking about this very thing. She said it's not uncommon for kids of divorce once they reach a certain age to want to play this back & forth staying with their parents. One month they may be in good with Mom & want to stay there or vice versa. Her advice was to let them go ahead & bounce back & forth. If the parents are co-parenting well it really shouldn't be an issue. Of course therein lies the rub for Kate.
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I hate Dr. Laura, but she's right about that, within reason. Kids will do this. Heck kids even do this with parents who are together, gravitating toward one parent or the other when they get mad at one. I understand why Jon may have stepped back a bit when the twins played it that they wanted to stay with mom. Better to let them not feel so chained to the court orders and get a chance to have their own input. In that case, it went on far too long, but I understand his initial reaction was to be patient and it was a reasonable one.
Even Jon talked about waffling back and forth between his parents when he was a kid. It's normal.
She's selfish and rigid and can't just let Hannah have her space for a couple days. What's the big deal? Heaven forbid Jon gets two minutes more than he's entitled to each week.
Nine times out of ten, a kid will take a couple days to cool off and then come back. Funny enough, I think Hannah may be one of the first kids to estrange her. The one Kate claimed to love the most.
And yet you rip into people who have questions about Juanita Broaddrick's account, saying how dare anyone second guess the alleged victim. Funny how things change when it suits your political purpose. Just more blatant hypocrisy.
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Juantia Broaddrick is a grown woman, not a child who can be influenced by a parental alienator. That said, I never said you have to believe her. What was said, is that her story is credible and therefore, *should* be believed BECAUSE it is credible. What you and Hillary want, is for people to believe rape stories simply because someone made a rape story. That is flat out wrong, flat....out....wrong. Rather, each story needs to be assessed individually, weighing its credibility. What was said, is that one needs to ASSESS the credibility and not just blindly believe things. I believe the stories about Bill Clinton's recent interns rubbing his feet, too. But I assessed the story individually, instead of just blindly believing the allegations.
I think we've spent years assessing Kate's credibility here. We have assessed this more than she ever deserved.
Well, and Tucker and those who have commented on this, you know what's really sad about her not having the "adult" conversation you talk about regarding WHY Hannah didn't want to go home? Kate could have LEARNED something. She could have had some reflection and realized that some of the bickering occurring between her and Steve is getting so bad it's upsetting the children. Upsetting Hannah to the point where she doesn't even want to be home.
All she would have to do is speak to Hannah about the bickering, apologize, and work hard to stop doing it. The household could have been so much more peaceful if she actually tried to listen to her children's concerns and correct herself. But it's not about that. It's not about listening to the kids, or trying to make them comfortable in their own home, or having a moment of reflection and self-improvement. She will never, ever get it.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 177 Why don't YOU look for it rather than asking your minions to do the work for you? ***** We've all asked for help recalling from time to time, because we remember different things to different degrees. Sometimes my neurons fire and connect and I can draw a line between something that is discussed today, to a factoid from long ago. Just today, this breaking story drew a straight line to what Kate has said in the past about "having to" protect her children from Jon. I don't know if everyone recalls her divorce announcement, but I do. So, I made the point that Kate doesn't just tilts at windmills, rather, she doesn't give a crap about the veracity of her accusations against Jon, as long as she eventually destroys his involvement with the children. Kate has been vying for complete control of her children by marginalizing Jon. Now, it seems, her goal is to exclude him completely, even if she has to accuse him of heinous acts and/or ruin him financially and put him behind bars.
Mostly, screw you, sheep, for even comparing any of us to Kate's lickspittles. The relationships here are collegial and respectful. No one is blowing sunshine up Admin's ass on a daily basis.
Unlike Kate, I have a feeling Admin would tell them to knock it off because it's creepy.
When Mady talked about not having time for a toxic relationship, it's ironic. Kate is the one who is toxic and her relationships are toxic for everyone around her.
kateplusmy8Just wanted to see if I could still lift her 😉! I can even tho she weighs about 60 pounds or more!!! #Nanuq #AMomAndHerDog
"See how strong I am? I can still beat the crap out of my kids when they don't do as I say. I'm in charge, and that's never going to change." This is one very sick cookie.
Nine times out of ten, a kid will take a couple days to cool off and then come back. Funny enough, I think Hannah may be one of the first kids to estrange her. The one Kate claimed to love the most.
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Did she claim to love her the most? I know she was the golden child, the favorite one. All I remember is that she said that Hannah is the one she "bonded with." Then again, I don't remember everything Kate said, nor do I want to. She's just too weird for me.
miloandjack2016 She looks HUGE there...not just the weight...but her SIZE! How tall is she?? @kateplusmy8 nonaof2And still growing right @kateplusmy8 ?
mydmaxx2581BTW. You look fit as every. 👍
jamiepumpkin 3 U r a nut! But I love u anyway..
miloandjack2016 When the 1st grandchild comes...put a saddle on #Nanuq! #RideBabyRide. LOL. SERIOUSLY #Nanuq just seems to have really grown fast! How often you feeding them? You must literally be preparing meals all day between kids & furbabies? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 LOL. #CrazyWoman! 😋 If I tried that my butt would be on the floor!
miloandjack2016 Update on #BrotherMak? Is he getting better? We see who does the #RoughAndTumble stuff w/the pups! LOL. 😋 NOT the kids....HaHa. @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy 8 Look closer! My butt IS on the floor! Lol! @miloandjack2016
miloandjack2016 Oh...missed that!! Measure her from floor to top of her head...she may get taller than #Shoka!! @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8Yes! They are 6 months old today so they are only 3/4 their final weight!!! Probably the last time I'll be able to lift her 😥😥! @babu_1 @maryaumuller @nonaof2
When Mady talked about not having time for a toxic relationship, it's ironic. Kate is the one who is toxic and her relationships are toxic for everyone around her.
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D., I think Mady will see that someday. She may be a 36 year old single woman with a divorce under her belt and multiple failed relationships and other relationships in shambles, and she'll look in the mirror and realize this all goes back to her MOTHER, not her father as she was led to believe for all those years. Poor kid.
Did she claim to love her the most? I know she was the golden child, the favorite one. All I remember is that she said that Hannah is the one she "bonded with." Then again, I don't remember everything Kate said, nor do I want to. She's just too weird for me.
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I was kind of exaggerating, but yeah it was something about feeling closer to her or bonding with her better. It wasn't outright I love her more, but I remember the comments were very strange.
Another wonderful legacy TFW has provided for her children. Now, not only can they Google "M is a b****," but "H molestation." Talk about making memories.
Put down the 60-pound deflection, er, uh, dog, and say it, TFW: I AM A HORRIBLE MOTHER.
By the way that was another reason I speculated earlier that Kate DM's people like Milo and others talking about this stuff. Because we have that accidental DM indeed trying to speak to someone, I believe a fan, about Jon. And then add to that Milo hinting that she knows things we don't. Kate, you are unbelievably inappropriate.
Radar has a screenshot Kate's original tweet about being in "protection mode". It was made on May 1, 2015, a few days after she filed the police reports.
Still don't know what she meant by that tweet, which most of us assumed at that time that it was meant to be a DM instead of a public tweet. It's possible that after she made those police reports she was told by someone(possibly her attorney) to have absolutely no contact with Jon and that's why she said she was in "protection mode", to not discuss or say anything about Jon.
In her determination to get back at Jon with a vengeance, she slipped up by posting that tweet.
I hope TLC drops her permanently like they did Honey Boo Boo.
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They won't as long as they can make money off her. They have no conscience.
"Mostly, screw you, sheep, for even comparing any of us to Kate's lickspittles."
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lol, Tucker's. My sediments exactly. The sheep troll should take her own advice and go play with her own minions where she's obviously loved and revered.
Remember when they Jon and Kate separated in 2009 when Kate called the police on Jon because she did not like the babysitter that Jon picked out. This was when Jon was still living at the McMansion. I think it was one of his girlfriends.
It was so bad that when Whoopie on The View told Kate strongly that she was WRONG to call the police on Jon when it was his time with the kids.
Little did we know that Kate has continued to call the police on Jon. She is a horrible woman.
What a s**tshow. Terrible things are in the news about her family and the best Kate can do is say look I can lift a dog. She's a complete ass with no love for her children. I also blame Steve. He supports her and enables her, he knows tons of intimate details about their lives. I'm sure he's seen if she beats them, if she drinks too much, what she files with the court, etc. Yet he has apparently done nothing to protect those children. He keeps getting paid. You can maybe say Kate would be worse without him but I believe things would be better for those kids if she wasn't allowed to abuse them.
Poor Hannah. She tried to take care of her brother and herself. And instead she is stuck in that house and her brother was sent away. Now it's out there that her mom said her dad sexually touched her. She probably had to be interviewed by police about it. Devastating.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 179 Well, and Tucker and those who have commented on this, you know what's really sad about her not having the "adult" conversation you talk about regarding WHY Hannah didn't want to go home? Kate could have LEARNED something. She could have had some reflection and realized that some of the bickering occurring between her and Steve is getting so bad it's upsetting the children. Upsetting Hannah to the point where she doesn't even want to be home.
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The thing is, why is Steve even around so much (cough)? Either because their home is their work (and set) or he is having a relationship with her. Otherwise, he would only be around when they are off-site somewhere. And even that is unnecessary.
I'm beginning to think paranoid Kate has Steve around to protect her from her big bad drug dealing gun totin ex.
Put down the 60-pound deflection, er, uh, dog, and say it, TFW: I AM A HORRIBLE MOTHER. ***** Interesting that Kate hasn't been seen in the "I Am" promotion commercials. Maybe TLC realizes they can't play it as ironic anymore.
Police aren't supposed to get involved in terms of settling disputes, but they are supposed to enforce court orders. Therefore if you have a custody order that says you get your daughter on Saturday, and Dad is keeping her that Saturday, you need to show the cops your order and have them help you go get your daughter. They should, have to, help you enforce your piece of paper. _________________________________________________
But that's what it looks like actually happened. Kate was trying to enforce her custody order.
Kate was claiming Jon picked up Hannah from school when it wasn't his custody, otherwise he wouldn't need her "permission." So it was Kate's custody time and she called the cops to get Hannah back, or arrest Jon, or whatever she expected them to do.
The police report states "complainant (Kate) stated her ex-husband Jonathan Gosselin "KIDNAPPED" her daughter Wednesday, taking her from her school..."
Also from Radar Online: "In the April 2015 filing, the 41-year-old mother of eight told authorities she was “worried” about her child’s whereabouts after Jon, 39, picked her up from school without permission."
Jon has the kids on Tuesdays, according to him. So Wednesday is not his custody time.
So Kate did call the cops to enforce her custody time and the cops said it's a civil/family court matter.
So that means that they would most likely tell Jon the same thing, so calling the cops is not an option for him when he wants to see Collin, or Alexis, when it's his custody time and Kate only allows him to see the same four kids.
localyocul said... 196 . . . The thing is, why is Steve even around so much (cough)? Either because their home is their work (and set) or he is having a relationship with her. ________
I think the one thing you can say with certainty is, when he's at the compound, he's not being a bodyguard. That hasn't been a plausible explanation for years.
But that's what it looks like actually happened. Kate was trying to enforce her custody order.
Kate was claiming Jon picked up Hannah from school when it wasn't his custody, otherwise he wouldn't need her "permission." So it was Kate's custody time and she called the cops to get Hannah back, or arrest Jon, or whatever she expected them to do.
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I really didn't look at the report that carefully but are we sure it wasn't his custody time? Also, do we know if Kate had a copy of the family law order in her hands when she requested her custody back? It's hard to know if she actually had her ducks in a row when she called them, or if she just called them in a total frenzy. I'm guessing frenzy. It's also possible in her frenzy the cops made the call at that moment not to enforce it, not because they didn't believe it was her time, but because they felt it best not to respond to her demands because of her demeanor, especially knowing it had only been a short time she'd been gone. I guess they can make that call in that moment. I think there is something to the fact that if you call the cops in a frenzy talking about kidnapping, drug sales and sexual abuse, you might actually make them less likely to want to work with your crazy self as opposed to had you have called them in a calm and reserved matter, had your family law order in hand, and politely requested their assistance.
She is entitled to enforcement as much as he is, and if either of them are having difficulty getting their respective family law orders enforced by the police, they really need to complain to the entity in charge of the police force in their county.
Family law orders mean nothing if the stupid police won't enforce them. That's their JOB.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1983 Newer› Newest»kateplusmy8 No splint for some reason (I asked) and it's his front right (which Shoka has a habit of grabbing when they play; plus mak has slipped a few times so don't know which did it) and I CANNOT WAIT TO LET HIM RUN! Hes scratched my wood floors to bits from boredom and when I covered it with a new piece of linoleum, it took him 5 min to rip a hole!! Grrrrr @miloandjack2016
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I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily.
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I agree with you that TFW likely flipped out about the scratched floors. Completely agree.
What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors? Did she get confused (as she often does when she is making up the story as she goes along) about the details? I can understand saying she covered it with a rug (well, no I can't because it's TFW we're talking about) but a new piece of linoleum? IDK...
Milo is trying so hard to be just like Kate by posting dog pictures on her IG account. Three days ago she posted a picture of Katie Irene, with the following caption:
miloandjack2016Ha...#MissK at the #TopOfHerGame again!!
This time got a tissue pack....sigh.
And she looks at me w/no shame! I guess she wants me to say "good girl"! LOL
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLjv_tdBDR6/
She seems to be suggesting that this happened recently.
I guess she forgot that she posted the exact same picture on twitter over 2 years ago.
https://twitter.com/MiloandJack/status/510585966159872001
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I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily.
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She flipped out when her 3 year old got some ice cream on her dress.
She flipped out when her 2 year olds got into M&Ms and dared to eat some.
She flipped when her daughter ate the slice of pizza she was saving for her lover-oh I'm sorry, I mean bodyguard.
You better believe she freaked out about the floors, if it's even true they got scratched(is there a picture or do we only have her word?)
Hi all, checking in, not sure why I can't show up in color. Oh well.
Cover of People October 24 issue has Chip and Joanna Gaines from HGTV Fixer Upper show. Interesting on page 56, "they don't want their children growing up in the spotlight. ' they're so young and we want to give them the chance to have a normal childhood.' Joanna says. Though the kids appear briefly in segments of the show, they are not subjected to filming multiple takes, nor will the Gaineses allow them to show their faces in photo shoots."
Anyone watching Dancing With the Stars? It's got lots of talent this season. I don't have a favorite yet.
KIAT Milo has been posting the same pictures recently.The photo of her son driving was something i remember her uploading last year and the one of the 2 dogs on her bed is a photo she already has on her IG if you scroll down more.Its so weird.
Busted! Good sleuthing Kate is a twit. I thought the picture looked familiar.
JoyinVirginia - I watched DWTS yesterday and had quite the laugh over Ryan's predickament (yes, spelled wrong on purpose). Tom is very quick on his feet with the quips. I don't really have a favorite yet but I don't really like Maureen all that much (maybe because I didn't like Marsha).
KIAT, thanks for pointing out that photo of Milo's. I thought it looked familiar. It just goes to show what a liar she is---does she do it to make Kate like her? Or is this just part of her "job," to keep comments on Kate's various social media TLs churning? Not that there's much churning anywhere. I think Kate's reception on IG bears out that most people don't give a f--- about her anymore. And except for haters and porn links, her Twitter is averaging maybe 5 random comments a day, and not all of those flattering.
Milo's repeating herself--literally.
I love how she completely ignores the fact that Nala was there for at least the first year---didn't Nala help make her a better peson? No? I wonder why that was. And Shoka wasn't that young when he upchucked on her rug, that was only 4 years, I think. And thse Xmas goodies left out on top of the trash for the sanitation workers were wrapped in PLASTIC, Milo, Kate said so herself. Milo's really become invested in helping Kate rewrite history. I wonder what's in it for her.
miloandjack2016 REMEMBER when you said yrs ago..."I could live my whole life w/out a dog..." LOL That was BEFORE you met #Shoka...the dog who changed your life...whose love & loyalty made you see dogs in a different light! The special companion who made you a better person! #CheersToShokies. ❤
miloandjack2016 Not to say it hasn't been quite a journey# I remember Shoka as a young dog eating a dead animal & then upchucking it on your nice rug! 😧 And lets not forget when he ate all your baking gifts...paper and all! LOL. #Memories. 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Not to say it hasn't been quite a journey# I remember Shoka as a young dog eating a dead animal & then upchucking it on your nice rug! 😧 And lets not forget when he ate all your baking gifts...paper and all! LOL. #Memories. 😋 @kateplusmy8
LOL, and someone commented about that Twitter picture a few years back that it looked staged. I thought so too when I saw it the first time.
Also Kate ADMITS the dog scratched her floor from BOREDOM! Huh? Is he locked up in a room all the time?? Why use a piece of linoleum as a cover over a wood floor? Wouldn't that slide all over the place? She is sooooo weird. Maybe she used the linoleum by the door because the dog has had accidents by it which would indicate to me the dog is not being walked when needed. She has no business owning dogs.
I also believe it's all public persona. I don't believe for a second that Kate didn't flip out when the dog scratched up her floors. It's not like you can just throw then out and get new floors easily.
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I also don't believe for a minute that she didn't flip out at her floors being ruined. We have hardwood floors (with area rugs) and once they are scratched, there's very little you can do besides get them refinished to restore them again.
You can wax etc, but nothing will take the scratches out.
Can you just see "Scratch-Gate"?
Who scratched the floors?! Who's going to be Inspector Gadget?
That person had to come down a pretty long private road in order to break into her husband's pick-up. Seems like it would be pretty far out of someone's way when there are probably easier pickins' in town.
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If that long road was Milo's private driveway, it needs an alarm to notify when someone is driving up.
Um, did you call the cops? It's not funny.
She just makes things up.
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Yeah, ridiculous to blow it off like it's nothing and oh, the dogs ran him off...
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Yes, I agree. Whatever happens good or bad, no matter who is our next POTUS, we will all be in it together.
I'm also very ashamed of our intolerance towards our fellow Americans, and have never witnessed anything like it.
On last night's news, there was a story about this guy's Trump sign being burned down. The sign was near his house, which was decorated for Halloween with a hay bale.
If a police cruiser hadn't happened to be patrolling his street at 2 a.m., his house and his townhouse neighbors' houses could have been burned to the ground.
People have just got to stop it already.
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Hi all, checking in, not sure why I can't show up in color. Oh well.
Cover of People October 24 issue has Chip and Joanna Gaines from HGTV Fixer Upper show. Interesting on page 56, "they don't want their children growing up in the spotlight. ' they're so young and we want to give them the chance to have a normal childhood.' Joanna says. Though the kids appear briefly in segments of the show, they are not subjected to filming multiple takes, nor will the Gaineses allow them to show their faces in photo shoots."
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I read about them in Parade magazine this week.
I saw a segment on the Brangelina kids this week. Apparently Brad was reunited with some or all of his kids for a visit. First time since the split. The tv personalities were going on and on about how hard this is to not see dad for AN ENTIRE MONTH, and how great it is that Brad is visiting them WITH A THERAPIST to help them with any emotional difficulties.
They also waxed on about Jolie's brother stepping in to help and how having as many familiar family and friends at this difficult time really helps them.
I thought about Kate's handling of her debacle of a divorce- fail, fail, fail.
What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors
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Kate's laundry room has a linoleum floor. She probably locked Mak in there after he scratched her wood floors and then he ripped up the floor in the laundry room.
She just got confused in telling the details of her "story".
JoyinVirginia (#5), nice to see you!
Is it just me, or is TFW's love letter to Shoka more sentimental than the one she penned on her daughters' 16th birthday? All the flowery language in the world won't make me forget that she sent those dogs away. Nor will it take away the terrible treatment Robert exposed in the book.
Shoka's B'day message: HAPPY 8th BIRTHDAY TO THE KING OF KING SHEPHERDS. You changed our lives for the better, guard us, love us unconditionally, AND gave us your amazing 'kids'! Today is YOUR day! Party time after school, Shokie!
Twins B'day message: 16 years ago, these two perfectly amazing girls were born! I'm so thankful for them each and every day! Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!!
Well, the girls got more "!!!" and more little red harts.
She seems to be suggesting that this happened recently.
I guess she forgot that she posted the exact same picture on twitter over 2 years ago.
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And that is why you are the blog historian.
You're amazing.
It's so weird/creepy the way she mirrors Kate even in how she posts. So Single White Female.
Yeah, ridiculous to blow it off like it's nothing and oh, the dogs ran him off...
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And that's why I don't believe her story, she's sit trying to prop up ate by saying look see isn't she such a responsible mama to have dogs who will ward off predators? She is doing this for her kids. B.S.
Doesn't she have a million questions? Who was that? What did they want? Were they armed at all? Do they know us? Or was this random? Why us? Will they come back? Will they try something more aggressive next time?
And heck, what about your neighbors? Wouldn't you want to warn them some guy is trying to break into cars in the neighborhood?
You would call the police or at the very least be very freaked out and instructed by others to call the police.
I felt violated when my car was broken into a few years ago, and they din't even take anything (I had nothing for them to take). It took weeks to feel normal again, and I know many people who take much longer than that to move on from something like that. Milo? Gimme a break with your fantasies.
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JoyinVirginia - I watched DWTS yesterday and had quite the laugh over Ryan's predickament (yes, spelled wrong on purpose). Tom is very quick on his feet with the quips. I don't really have a favorite yet but I don't really like Maureen all that much (maybe because I didn't like Marsha).
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I also don't care for Maureen; I call her "Maureen the whiner". I think some dancers have been systematically underscored (Calvin and Jana) and some overscored (Terra and Marilu). Ryan is just mediocre and boring, which perhaps the best he can hoe for. At least he isn't looking childish and entitled!
Funny that the G household seems to be at its
hap-hap-happiest with one of the children missing.
At least that's the impression I'm getting from TFW's manic posts.
From the pictures Milo has posted, she lives in an isolated wooded area. Can't imagine anyone interested in hub's truck, LOL. She really is a psycho liar like Kate.
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Well that's another reason her story makes no sense. She gives of a "doors unlocked" down home vibe to the life she claims she has. Wouldn't you be beyond disturbed that suddenly your quiet little woodsy lifestyle has a robber traipsing through it? Wouldn't you be extremely alarmed? The FIRST thing I would wonder is if I were being specifically targeted.
I lived in downtown when my car was robbed. Although it was traumatic, I wasn't shocked. I knew for sure it was just a random crime and that car theft is just a part of living in a high density area. But if I had been robbed when I lived in the sticks? I would have been downright disturbed.
I felt violated when my car was broken into a few years ago, and they din't even take anything (I had nothing for them to take). It took weeks to feel normal again, and I know many people who take much longer than that to move on from something like that. Milo? Gimme a break with your fantasies.
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We've had some car break-ins recently. Mostly just crimes of opportunity with unlocked vehicles and taking change. But, they're also looking for keys to your car, your other car and your home.
A neighbor had their SUV tires stolen. All 4 of them, with the car resting on milk crates so that it didn't make noise when it dropped!
Heck, that got my attention! Sure, my dogs bark at people outside, and that's great. But, not as great as the motion sensor flood lights, dusk to dawn lights and security cameras we've installed!
It is no little matter when your property is invaded or stolen.
It shakes you to your core-the sense of violation.
Our neighbors report it to the police immediately, and get on www.nextdoor.com to let the rest of us know.
But if I had been robbed when I lived in the sticks? I would have been downright disturbed.
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Which is exactly why Jon has a gun. When he lived in the sticks, it was a good idea.
Way more effective than a Flying Monkey with rat claws.
Puleez.
But I sincerely mean this, we as a nation are at a huge crossroads no matter which of these 2 clowns wins. It makes me very sad to think of where we are going as a country for the sake of my grandchildren.
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Kylie, I understand your sentiments. I do agree there has been a real intolerance out there for legitimate fears. People are guilted and shamed into just putting those aside because anything else must support the alleged "rape culture" people think is around every corner. I know some people feel very strongly that certain things should be a deal breaker. But that's easy to say when you have a good job, a healthy retirement, live in a safe town, and have lots of opportunities ahead. That's not how the average middle American lives, and I don't blame people for being much more worried about how an individual candidate is going to address the job market or health insurance than what that individual did ten years ago. At the end of the day if they agree much more with Candidate A's policies on jobs over Candidate B's, it's not going to much matter what transgressions Candidate A has committed (or even, what B has done either). People don't seem to understand that it's a separate issue whether behavior is relevant to individual voters as to electing someone for office, versus whether such behavior would be okay for them if it were their dad, or son or husband---or mother, grandmother, or wife.
Another fascinating point John Colbelt made the other day, he is so spot on sometimes and has an incredible memory for the day to day history of politics. He pointed out that somewhat commendably, back in the 90's the Clintons successfully were able to convince people that sexual activities no matter how young and vulnerable the woman or even if it was assault, are a private matter and has nothing to do with the office. Remarkably, they saved his presidency and are still key players today. Now that the shoe is on the other foot apparently it has everything to do with it. Although in fairness, Hillary rightly has kept her mouth shut about this issue. She knows how hypocritical it would be, and to her credit, she's shushed up. It's just some of her supporters who have short term memories about her role in the history of political sexcapades.
The photo of her son driving was something i remember her uploading last year
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The photos she has of her children are likely swiped from a friend's, sister's, or niece's account and then passed off as her own. Their could very well be a photo of someone's son driving, which Milo saved and collected. This is just what catfish do. She is a slave though to how often her friend posts. Therefore if someone wanted a photo of her kid riding a bike, she wouldn't be able to produce it unless her friend had posted something like that before.
From the pictures Milo has posted, she lives in an isolated wooded area. Can't imagine anyone interested in hub's truck, LOL. She really is a psycho liar like Kate.
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I haven'tn read Milo's comments about the truck break-in, but Milo recently posted a picture of her driving down a long private road to her house. The road dead-ended at a gate. Did the thief jump the gate, run around it or what? If that's possible, what is the purpose of the gate?
Milo confuses the heck out of me. I really do think she/he is a catfish and isn't very good at it anymore, screwing up and not remembering what has been tweeted before.
Margaret Meade @DonutsForCollin 6h6 hours ago
@PietheNoot @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 Trump has court date for bondage & rape of a 13y/o Nov.
Is this true? I can't find anything on the internet about this.
Wow, she's really pulling out all the stops. Video of Shoka and his cake, and everyone singing? But where are the puppies? Weren't they invited for this "very special episode"?
kateplusmy8 Shoka's birthday celebration..had the same dinner as we did (rotisserie chicken, rice and steamed carrots; he skipped the green beans😜) and then ate his ENTIRE cake! #8YearsOld #LoveHimSOMuch
If this is what TLC is planning on putting out there, this should seal her demise. Not only does it appear fake, it looks totally ridiculous, and not at all the K8 people have known for almost 10 years.
Needless to say, Milo approved.
miloandjack2016 LOL. Is this a spoiled and oh so loved dog! ❤ I see that lil peck on his head didn't distract him from his cake! I forgot what you said was in that? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And what a fine meal he had! Fit for a King! You have him sit at the table & eat w/you all? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 BTW...how is #Mak doing? Is that paw getting better? I know you are more than ready to unleash him & let him run and play again! @kateplusmy8
And she dropped her joy on Twitter, too:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 32m32 minutes ago
Remembering 8yrs ago a lil dog was born who changed the Gosselin family forever! #CheersToShoka http://r.ddmcdn.com/w_516/s_f/o_1/cx_0/cy_9/cw_516/ch_344/TLC/uploads/2014/06/storymaker-gosselins-puppies-pictures14-515x363-1.jpg … … @kateplusmy8
And she dropped her joy on Twitter, too:
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Did she drop her drawers for Kate? Is she still dropping her g's, or was that another catfisher stage she abandoned?
Way more effective than a Flying Monkey with rat claws.
Puleez.
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But he is very good at throwing his weight around to scare fans into deleting photos they took of Kate! Doesn't that count for something?
All This is That, MSNBC had a segment on the rape accusations tonight. Here's some additional info: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawsuit-accusing-trump-raping-girl-13-december-hearing-article-1.2828413
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Margaret Meade @DonutsForCollin 6h6 hours ago
@PietheNoot @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 Trump has court date for bondage & rape of a 13y/o Nov.
Is this true? I can't find anything on the internet about this.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/this-high-profile-defense-attorney-is-now-representing-a-wom?utm_term=.ssQk5ZxYeD#.lkJ5VEDJ7d
Yes, a civil suit. That story has been around for months but is getting very little play, which I find interesting, to say the least.
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One, like you said it's a civil suit, which anyone can file. People perk up more when it's criminal charges which have to meet certain evidentiary requirements to be filed.
Bill Clinton's got that civil suit that has more or less become a footnote with people hardly ever bringing it up and many thinking she was full of it. For better or worse I think people generally assume if it wasn't enough to warrant criminal charges, who much cares about the civil suit.
Shoka had a cake? Did the bird help frost it like the kids' cake a couple years ago? This gets more ridiculous by the second. I guess her fans don't care she originally sent Shoka and Nala away because she hated the dogs. It's so fake.
There's something wrong about the floor story. I'll admit I don't know lots about dogs. But she is claiming Maks has a sprained paw. Out of boredom, he scratches the floors where he sits, I guess with the unsprained paw. Rather than crating him or putting him outside in beautiful weather, Kate gives him a piece of linoleum and he promptly scratches through it to the same floor she didn't want him scratching. She doesn't try to train him not to scratch out of boredom. Makes no sense.
Uh oh looks like some fans aren't happy with all the dog pictures being posted jacid34@errington_bound I feel this account is ALL about this dog. I should just unfollow!And of course Milo had to make an excuse for this. miloandjack2016 Some folks complaining about not seeing more pics of your kids. I think people should just appreciate your taking the time to share bits & pieced of your life! All your kids are getting into teen yrs soon. They are more sensitive about their appearance...and not always willing for Mom to take pics and post on #IG. I think we will get a full fun update soon when the new #KatePlus8 series begins! #patience. Thanks for sharing....@kateplusmy8. ❤
There's something wrong about the floor story. I'll admit I don't know lots about dogs. But she is claiming Maks has a sprained paw. Out of boredom, he scratches the floors where he sits, I guess with the unsprained paw. Rather than crating him or putting him outside in beautiful weather, Kate gives him a piece of linoleum and he promptly scratches through it to the same floor she didn't want him scratching. She doesn't try to train him not to scratch out of boredom. Makes no sense.
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She's setting things up for Mak's departure. Excuses. Mak is untrainable, bored, and therefore she will just keep her favorite, the female puppy. When she, sobs, has to find a new home for Mak, Milo will do the damage control, saying that well, you can't blame Kate, can't have expensive floors destroyed, she KNOWS it is breaking Kate's heart to give up the dog, ad nauseam.
Wait for it...
Is Zorro still alive?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/this-high-profile-defense-attorney-is-now-representing-a-wom?utm_term=.ssQk5ZxYeD#.lkJ5VEDJ7d
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Thanks, KIAT and admin. So it wasn't criminal charges and he wasn't arrested. I was wondering about that, why it wasn't a major story in the election and how he could be a candidate if he were charged with rape.
I agree with the fan, the all-dog all the time account is stupid and boring. Unless the photo really is cute or there is something viral about it, boring. Not that she should post pictures of the kids, but surely there is something more interesting about her life she could post about. She needs more variety to the account. Some dogs are fine, but make sure it's truly cute or interesting or funny, and splice it in with other topics. It's remarkable how inept she is and unaware of what fans are looking for from an instagram account. She has ALL DAY to look over successful celeb instagram accounts for ideas.
And look at Milo throwing out feelers to get her to remark about the show again. You don't even know when it is airing, Milo, and I don't think Kate does either. LOL.
Admin (#40), and Gladys sticks her foot in her mouth once again. Yes, teens DO get sensitive about their appearances. So what a shame it is that they are ALL contractually required to have these awkward years captured on film. How does Gladys reconcile that?
Looks like Barb is 2nd-in-command to Milo over on IG now. Really, be glad that Kate is "taking time out" to post? Are you serious? WTF else does she have to do all day? Do these people really not get that the whole struggling SAHM of 8 schtick is a fabrication?
barbgilmer1 @miloandjack2016 @kateplusmy8 That's right folks, be glad Kate is taking time out to post on #IG! Remember you can't always have your cake and eat it too folks! Or remember good things come to those who wait! 😉
Milo certainly is beating her chest in self-importance acting as Kate's spokesperson and go-to person for everything that is Kate. Wouldn't you think that it would drive Kate really nuts to have a pest like this follow her around, speaking for her, and inserting herself into her life? I would have told Gladys years ago to shut the heck up.
The sad thing is that Milo either doesn't know that she is a laughingstock or she knows but just doesn't care. When you think about it, it's really pathetic.
I also don't think she's realizing that much like the children there's nothing special about the dogs. They're not even unusually cute. When I see German shepherds I don't really think "cute." They are beautiful, aesthetically pleasing, intelligent, expertly bred dogs, but not particularly "cute" like other breeds. Bottom line she really doesn't get it, and it was only a matter of time before she would start to frustrate the fans.
I'm not even convinced her show will ever air. There might always be some excuse not to air it. By the time it does, even if it aired today, the kids are so much older than when they filmed the episodes, further frustrating fans, who want to see current stuff.
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What is with TFW's tweet about putting down a new piece of linoleum? She has wood floors. What does new linoleum have to do with her story about wood floors
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Kate's laundry room has a linoleum floor. She probably locked Mak in there after he scratched her wood floors and then he ripped up the floor in the laundry room.
She just got confused in telling the details of her "story".
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That makes sense and is probably the most likely explanation for her linoleum use and replacement. TY :-)
On the one hand, Milo says that teens are more sensitive about their appearance on IG, but on the other, she can't wait to see their lives splashed across her tv screen.
They either want privacy or they don't.
I'm glad the kids aren't used for her 'sodes on IG and Twitter as much, but have my doubts that she will ever protect them as long as they live under her roof.
Also, the longer she goes without uttering a word about Colin, the more icky the entire thing feels.
Unless he's home and/or is out of treatment, he's been gone a long time.
That HAS to be taking a toll on the other kids.
Can you imagine how emotionally difficult this must all be on them?
Divorce, parents hate each other and don't even speak, kids don't see Dad and now a sibling has been sent away from the home.
This reads like a tragedy, not some fun tv show.
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Admin (#40), and Gladys sticks her foot in her mouth once again. Yes, teens DO get sensitive about their appearances. So what a shame it is that they are ALL contractually required to have these awkward years captured on film. How does Gladys reconcile that?
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How do the sheep reconcile that? Let me count the ways ;-)
Kate HAS to film! She cant go back to nursing!
Kate has no other means of supporting 8 kids being a single mom of 8!
Jon is a deadbeat dad!
The kids get to do fun stuff!
The kids and Kate get free stuff!
The crew are their Daddies!
The puppies are really cute and look like they are going to be gorgeous dogs. However, Kate sucks at photography!
If she were Ree Drummond, she could make a doggy calendar out of her photos. But, they're just "meh" and ordinary, and they are just not enough to drive an IG account.
Plus, the fans are truly selfish and have come to expect seeing the kids on a regular basis. They are turning on her because they demand it.
I AGREE! Mak is n the way out! Scratching her precious wood floor. Hurt paw. He did not get hurt from Shoka. Something smells. I bet she locks that dog up while the kids are in school. Meanwhile, the female gets the lovey treatment. Kate is a beast. She is NOT an animal lover. NO WAY.
Not only does Milo point out the hypocrisy of kids not wanting to show themselves and then have to film, I don't know a single teenage girl that doesn't flood her social media account with selfies.
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I think Kate should just let the twins have their own social media and decide what they want to put out there. At 16, I'm betting they already have had several.
Not just running an IG account for a bird. I bet that got boring quick.
Tucker's Mom (#51), oh, I definitely agree that the twins are probably all over social media. I bet they're ten times more tech savvy than TFW, and have figured out how to do everything without her knowledge.
Lynne In RI (#43), I think it's win-win for Gladys. If people see her as a spokesperson for TFW, she gets her ego boosted. If they make fun of her, she's a martyr for the cause. Either way, she gets attention.
OMG, check it out. Did she really make this allegation? I'd have gone after her with both barrels.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-drug-dealer-116585
From above link:
In Touch has exclusively obtained three never-before-seen police reports that detail Kate Gosselin's bombshell and criminal allegations against her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin.
According to the police report, filed on April 24th, 2015, Kate claimed that Jon “kidnapped” [their daughter] Hannah, taking her from her school. She also charged to police that:
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
“Jon didn’t even know all of what Kate had accused him of until he saw the police report himself,” explains the insider. “He believes Kate will stop at nothing to get what she wants — even if it means lying to police. She has no boundaries.”
Kate summoned police again on April 27, 2015 because, she told an officer, she feared her gun-owning ex would engage her in “a hostile dispute.” She even added that she’d “detect[ed] suspicious behavior” between him and their child.
“Jon had no idea at the time that she accused him of having an inappropriate relationship with Hannah,” says the insider. “He was upset when he found out.”
The police records, obtained by In Touch, show that Kate called cops three times in five days, and the officer that responded to the call refused to get involved and “informed her this was a custody/civil matter, to be handled in court.”
Which is exactly what they did — at an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate’s accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn’t want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8.
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She accused him of an inappropriate relationship with his daughter? She really will stop at nothing. I wonder if TLC was fully apprised of this lunacy. Just on this basis, they should never ever do business with her again. Disgusting.
Well, even though it doesn't excuse Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody. She filed 3 reports in 5 days. It's clear she will stop at nothing to destroy him if he gets in her way. If these are the tales she's been telling her kids, then it's understandable why the twins are calling him toxic. She is one whacko looney tune, and the sooner someone shuts her down, the better.
I was afraid she was doing just what she did. She's nuts.
Wow.
Ok so let me ask this. If the police refused to get involved because it was a "custody" and "civil" matter, is that why "Jon doesn't just call the cops" like people claim he can, so that he can see Collin? Maybe they won't do anything to help him and he really does have to go to court every time he wants to fight her
I can't believe she accused him of inappropriate behavior or inappropriate relationship with his daughter. She's sick. And evil.
@Sad but true I wonder what excuse the sheeple will say now?Just how far would they go to say Jon is either selling a story by accusing Kate of making these accusations towards him.Would they believe Kate's accusations?SMH maybe they'll ignore it as usual and say Kate never said that.
Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon.
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
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...and Kate isn't a wine guzzler? Let's see. There was an episode in which she was seen three sheets to the wind. Was it appropriate for the kids to see her in that condition, even if it happened while she was away filming?
“Jon is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics. She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
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Oh my god she's NUTS. Waa-waa Jon has a beer in front of the kids. The cops must have really laughed their asses off at that one as they went home and popped their own cold ones in front of their kids.
Look further at the police report. She practically implies he molested Hannah. She detects "suspicious" behavior between Hannah and him. Bitch, seriously?
CLASSIC parental alienation, with imagined sexual abuse, drug dealing, and all the typical fantasies.
Good for the cops telling her to piss off.
If you don't believe she's a parental alienator now, I don't know what to tell you. These kids don't have a prayer. No wonder the twins are brainwashed. They think Daddy molested Hannah. Called this one a mile away. I said it, the next step in parental alienation is imagining sexual abuse is occuring.
Sad but true said... 57
Well, even though it doesn't excuse Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody.
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Yep, as I've said all along when people said Jon should call the police when Kate won't cooperate regarding custody. She's absolutely nuts, and Jon knew if he instigated a call, it would be on him that he put her in a rage saying who knows what. Plus the cops aren't going to get involved anyway. Kate's just like that crazy Betty Broderick/
Jon, now we know why he's not attempted to go the "call the police from the gate" routine when it's time to collect the kids for custody. She filed 3 reports in 5 days.
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And, that any time the cops are called, allegations of sexual abuse might come out. Kate, you are a monster.
Honestly, I don't know what to tell Jon. There is no way to get around this psycho. He's screwed. He can only wait until the kids are 18 and hope for the best.
She's lucky she doesn't live in L.A. like I think she wanted to. You start accusing the other parent of molesting your kid and it's not true, we take the kids from YOU and give them to him. Done, it's over.
Our court actually recognizes the incredible damage that such false allegations cause.
She made cocktails in front of the kids with Jamie! She drinks wine all the time, and brags about it.
What is her problem? She really is psycho.
Plus the cops aren't going to get involved anyway
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Well, no, they'll get involved if it's YOUR custodial time and you have the order in your hands. Absolutely they will. And they'll turn over the kids. What the cops apparently said to Kate is when she was making ALLEGATIONS they said you need to deal with that in court we're not gonna do anything. THAT they're not going to get involved in and play judge. They are there to enforce orders, not mediate family law cases. Good for them.
But I do agree by the same token when they interview Kate, there she blows about drug dealing and sexual abuse. So even if they were to turn over his kids, the trade off is she will run her mouth with false allegations that even though *I* know would go nowhere in court without evidence, I understand would really scare the pants off someone if YOU are the one being accused of it. I get it, Jon, and I'm sorry.
I do so like though how the cops were apparently like yeah yeah whatever Kate, go to family law court. Lol. I think she expected them to cart Jon off in handcuffs. Not happening.
I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations.
If we take the approach some people would like that all allegations such as this must be believed, a good father who never did anything ends up in jail.
Each case and its facts must be weighed individually, and that while alleged victims should be treated with dignity and respect, so too should the facts be given their due examination and weight.
I don't think anyone here believes this for one second, but under this so-called end-rape-culture, we are called to believe it first and ask questions later. Frightening.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 67
I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations.
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It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants.
You know Hannah never said (or implied) that anything inappropriate happened with her dad. This is all an absolutely slanderous fabrication by Kate. Because one of her kids dared defy her. And with what is known about Collin (and what Hannah apparently told her dad about it), I wonder if it isn't time to revisit the court about who's really got the best interests of the children uppermost in mind.
TLC, BUY A CLUE and get this destructive PoS off the air. She's as bad if not worse than the Duggars.
Good for the police for not getting involved with this maniac. It must have been terrifying for Jon to know she accused him of such horrific behaviour. This proves she will stop at nothing in order to destroy him. The article mentions this happened a year-and-a-half ago, during a time she was not been getting the media attention she has grown accustomed to. Just wondering if she was hoping this would become public at that time ensuring her the pity attention she craves and ignoring as usual the damage this causes the children. She has struck a new low - time for TLC to cancel this monster forever - and let these children get the help they need to heal.
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Jamesvader1194 said... 60
Sheeple can't deny she said it---InTouch has copies of the police reports. She said it, all right. Now the question is, how far are her surrogates going to go to try to make others believe it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3852142/Kate-Gosselin-accused-ex-Jon-dealing-drugs-having-inappropriate-relationship-one-daughters.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Is this what you wanted, Kate? Hannah's PHOTO smeared all over the tabs with your disgusting allegations of a "suspicious" relationship between your ex and his daughter? No, of course not. You just wanted it all YOUR way with no consequences that could track back to you. Too bad, so sad, this is going to blow up in your lying, reconstructed face.
What's sad is that I am not the least bit surprised that TFW would sink that low. She is
a deeply disturbed individual. It's not just greed, or pettiness, or narcissism. I think she's much closer to being a sociopath.
We've seen that her goal is to win at all costs. And if keeping her kids away from her ex -- even when it would actually HELP her in a million ways to have him in her life and theirs -- means she wins, then, well, nothing will stop her. The damage she is doing to the minds and hearts of those 8 children is absolutely sickening.
It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants.
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But in parental alienation cases they come from the victim all the time, after mom brainwashes them into believing it happened.
We don't know what Hannah would say about this, no one has published any comments from her about it one way or another. It's not like it's a topic on TLC!
Even if Hannah said it are you saying you would then believe it?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 75
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Even if Hannah said it are you saying you would then believe it?
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I'd certainly give it a much harder look, but ALL indications are that she still happily goes for visitation (as she has consistently done now for many years). And the judge sided with Jon. Do you think that Hannah was forced to come in and give testimony? What kind of "mother" does this to her KID, forget about her hated ex? If this doesn't force TLC to dump her, then nothing will.
Weren't some of Kate fans accusing Robert of doing the same thing?I remember hearing them making up alot of stories about Robert.Like i remember Ziggy made up a story about how there's proof that he abused Shoka and i also remember hearing the conspiracy that Robert and his wife were long time haters who've hated Kate since the birth of the 6.I wouldn't be shocked if Kate or her fans accused Robert of doing something like this.
Oh absolutely. A harder look would be totally appropriate. That's all fine. But apparently some women want us to just believe it, without a hard look at the evidence, the context, etc. That is a scary, scary thought to our justice system. And to folks like Jon.
I have no idea what that poor child was put through and whether she was asked about these allegations. I hope it didn't even get that far. Clearly she is a happy child who adores her dad and even sometimes has defected to him. She has a good relationship with him DESPITE her parental alienating mother. And I wouldn't have expected it as much from her, Kate's golden child. Go figure.
What's the timeline here in terms of what was happening last year? Was this anywhere around about the time Shawn Tuma was sticking it to her good?
Remember how Milo always hints there's just things we don't know about Jon, blah blah, things we don't understand about the situation. Hint hint, hem-haw. I'm betting a million bucks right now Kate been DMing people like her telling them Jon is a child molester and a danger to his kids. A million bucks.
What's sad is that I am not the least bit surprised that TFW would sink that low. She is
a deeply disturbed individual
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100%. Just like Milo is right on track with her celebrity worship, Kate is right on track with her parental alienation. She's textbook. She's going chapter by chapter, and I'm not even kidding, the last chapter is "accuse the other parent of sexual abuse."
God, she's TEXTBOOK!
@Admin (77) Lets say that the story is true and that Kate does DM her fans something like this.Then why isn't Kate as the mother who'd go to the worlds end to protect her kids(according to her fans)not doing everything she can to save them from Jon?Its funny how the fans say if Kate's abuse is true then she wouldn't have custody of her kids and yet wouldn't they think Jon would be thrown in jail if Kate has proof?
Maybe this is the reason why TLC has not aired any more shows in a almost what a year?
Wow. How brazen that hussy is saying that they are coming back with new episodes in January.
She thought that simple, Hey, Ya'll, we are coming back in January! would suffice and change TLC's mind. haha what a psychotic *****!
I hope TLC drops her permanently like they did
Honey Boo Boo.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 79
What's the timeline here in terms of what was happening last year? Was this anywhere around about the time Shawn Tuma was sticking it to her good?
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It's much later, at least 18 months after the case against Jon was dismissed with prejudice and probably 16 or so months after she "dropped" the case against Hoffman.
This clearly is that time last year when it was reported Hannah didn't want to return "home" from visitation (dates of these reports to police by Kate are last week of April 2015). I hope that this prompts someone to take a closer look at what's been going on with Collin. He's not the emotionally disturbed one in that household---or at least not the only one.
Wow. This is so upsetting.
Poor Hannah. I think when the kids have finally had enough of their mother, the rebelling will be epic.
She just turned up the DEFCON from a 4 to a 1.
Admin, does Jon have a chance in hades to sue her for false allegations, defamation and slander?
He needs to be awarded all of her precious money in the overseas bank accounts.
I hope Steve is happy. He is making money daily with dividends off the overseas money, working as her bodyguard/road manager/bf and off the backs of the children and their mentally ill mother.
Could Jon sue Kate for defamation over these unfounded claims of drug dealing and inappropriate behavior with Hannah.Not that he would, just curious if he would have a good legal argument.
Well... her stunts must have made Jeff Millionaire think twice. He dumped her in September, 2015.
I think TLC is not pleased with her actions. She's unstable. Explains the delay in airing new shows.
What an awful, awful person she is. It just gets worse all the time. She cannot leave Jon alone. I hope she finally gets what is coming to her.
As for her dogs. She and Milo sure do seem to be overly proud of the fact that they are all KING Shepherds. I never heard of them before. We have a German Shepherd, you know just a run of the mill regular vs. KING Shepherd. IMO they are not nearly as pretty as the regular Shepherds. Too hairy for me. I do love Shepherds. They are so very loyal.
If Jon were to sue, would Jon have to prove he didn't do it or would she-devil have the burden of proof to prove they are true? She would have to submit evidence.
Now Mady's use of the word, Toxic, makes clear sense now.
Can't believe she can't be court ordered for a psychological evaluation to be declared mentally fit to be a parent. She is truly sick.
Who could the source be? Who gets copies of police reports? It's got to be somebody who is an acquaintance of Jon's which tells me it was done with his permission. Something must be going on. Not good publicity for Kate. Perhaps a message to TLC if you air her shows it could get ugly.
Mady's word "toxic" totally came from mom. Kate must have been proud that Mady mouthed her words.
Even if Jon did sue for slander, it's not going to help the children. I can see where he would want to sue because what she said about him does damage his reputation, not that I believe he behaved inappropriately.
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I don't know if it would be worth it for Jon to sue. I'm sure it would be a difficult case and he might not want to do that to Hannah. The issue is now that her allegations are public does it destroy his business. History shows her believed by the public.
Since she was dating Jeff when the accusations were made, perhaps she was invisioning accusing Jon of mistreatment might be the last mail in the coffin regarding his daddy duties? She could finally back the bus over him on last final time and replace him with new daddy Jeff.
Jon needs to lawyer up. Enough is enough. Either that or wait until the kids reach adulthood and figure out which parent truly cares about them.
Who could the source be? Who gets copies of police reports? It's got to be somebody who is an acquaintance of Jon's which tells me it was done with his permission.
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InTouch could have filed a FOIA request to get copies of the police reports. Don't forget, that's how they uncovered the scandal about Josh Duggar.
InTouch was also the tab that first reported the incident with Kate and Jon last year. It could be they were doing follow up on that incident, and it's taken this long for them to receive the police reports.
Of course, that doesn't mean that Jon or a source had nothing to do with it. But I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that that they did.
TLC stinks said... 61
Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon.
October 19, 2016 at 7:34 AM
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I think he smokes weed, but accusing him of dealing drugs in on another level.
I really wonder if the cops are just plain sick of her sh*t after all these years. The PA police helped her SO MUCH back in 2008-9. After reading Robert's book, I began to think that this was some fun action for them-sort of like protecting and escorting Princess Di. Their little hamlet was getting world-wide attention, and it must have been a bit heady in a way.
But this is plain abuse of the system.
If I'm understanding correctly, Kate accused Jon of kidnapping, selling drugs and sexually abuse of a minor.
Holy f*ckballs, Batman, the wrong Gosselin is in treatment.
I knew Kate would use Jon's DJ'ing career against him. I just had no idea how far she'd go.
Since Hannah is one of the kids who still sees Jon obviously there is no such problem. That's really stooping low.
I just hope Kate doesn't get Madie to lie about being abused..seems like she goes along with Kate most of the time.
Wasn't Hanna the one who, it's been said, objected to TFW's treatment of Collin?
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If you don't believe she's a parental alienator now, I don't know what to tell you. These kids don't have a prayer. No wonder the twins are brainwashed. They think Daddy molested Hannah. Called this one a mile away. I said it, the next step in parental alienation is imagining sexual abuse is occuring.
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I'm not surprised that Kate has implied sexual abuse by Jon. Not at all.
From the moment SHE FILED for divorce, stating that (basically) her hand was forced because of Jon's actions, I knew she was out to destroy him.
"Jon stated that it is Kate who wanted the divorce,[11] while Kate stated that "Jon's activities" left her with "no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect" herself and the children."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Gosselin#Divorce
Cue the lawsuit Kate filed against Jon, where she said on the Today show:
"It has to be done for the safety and the future of my kids," she told TODAY's Savannah Guthrie."
http://www.today.com/popculture/kate-gosselin-suing-jon-it-has-be-done-safety-future-4B11242627
This has been Kate's m.o. since the marriage went under.
Well, no, they'll get involved if it's YOUR custodial time and you have the order in your hands. Absolutely they will. And they'll turn over the kids. What the cops apparently said to Kate is when she was making ALLEGATIONS they said you need to deal with that in court we're not gonna do anything. THAT they're not going to get involved in and play judge. They are there to enforce orders, not mediate family law cases. Good for them.
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To me, shit like this goes to Kate's rage. This ain't Kate's first rodeo. She's a litigious S.O.B. and has seen more of the inside of a courtroom than some lawyers. She has sued, brought lawsuits, attempted to sue, been brought to court and God knows what else.
Point is, Kate knows damn well that the cops don't deal with accusation of Jon drinking in front of the kids and allegations of dealing drugs.
She knows damn well that she should contact her attorney and file in court if she wants to address it. But, she was pissed as hell and she wanted something done NOW!
Way to go, Kate. First Collin's most private life is offered up to the tabloids, and now Hannah's. I don't believe Kate's insinuations of suspicious behavior, but now it's all over the gossip rags. How is Hannah supposed to deal with this?
I can't help but think there were some serious problems at the G8 household in early 2015 that resulted in Collin's banishment and Hannah's refusal to return home.
But not to worry, Kate's a very loving person. You can tell by the way she loves her dogs.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 66
She's lucky she doesn't live in L.A. like I think she wanted to. You start accusing the other parent of molesting your kid and it's not true, we take the kids from YOU and give them to him. Done, it's over.
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Remember when Whoopie chewed her out for calling the cops on Jon's custody time? That could have ended badly for her and Whoopie let her know it!
Sad but true said... 70
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 67
I think this situation also illustrates exactly why it is very, very dangerous to always believe sexual abuse allegations.
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It's one thing when the allegation of sexual abuse comes from the victim, another altogether when it's coming from a parent who has proved, over and over again, that she WILL scorch the earth to get what she wants.
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Really great point. Kate has shown over and over how much she hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
TLC, BUY A CLUE and get this destructive PoS off the air. She's as bad if not worse than the Duggars.
October 19, 2016 at 8:20 AM
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I put Kate right up there with Jim Boob. It's Kate that's toxic, and maybe TLC realized it after so many incidents like this.
It just furthers the point that the kids need privacy. To add to the list I wrote earlier, before I came home and found this unbelievable revelation. Tack onto the list a mother who is accusing their father of incest (she's sure as hell insinuating it), kidnapping and drug dealing.
Who in their right mind sits around the executive table and thinks, "Wellllllllllll, yeah, so there's the divorce, the scandals, the fracture of relationships all around, criminal accusations and a child in such dire straights he's removed from the home. Let's keep filming the crap out of these kids"
Who the heck says this without needing to take a shower and go to confession afterwards?
I was just rereading the case of the McMartin Preschool sexual abuse charges. The woman who made the initial charge was diagnosed with acute schizophrenia and died of chronic alcoholism before the prelimiary hearing of the case even took place.
Maybe a few more nutzo police calls and accusations and Kate will get carted away for a mental evaluation. It's great that a police report is on file for that particular outburst.
"...the wrong Gosselin is in treatment." Quote of the day, if not the year!
The dealing drugs allegation is absolutely outrageous, and she is off her rocker to say. It is worlds apart from accusing him of doing a little pot.
Which, let's be honest, tons of parents have done a little pot. And in many areas, it's actually completely legal to do so, it will soon be legal in still others, and in most other areas, it's not a law usually enforced.
There is a whole other level of danger and criminal liability to DEALING in it. Really, that's almost as bad as accusing your ex of sexual abuse.
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.” She said that she 'did not want to go home to her mommy.'"
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/10/19/jon-gosselin-kidnapped-daughter-hannah-drug-dealer-police-report/
If Kate doesn't have serious proof to back up her allegations against Jon, TLC is nut to keep working with her. Nuts.
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
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Now that we know through the actual police reports the incident with Hannah did indeed occur (once again, an incident that sounded truthful is again proven to be just that, sorry sheep), it sure makes some of the other reports more credible.
It sounds like the turmoil in the house upset Hannah, and I don't blame her. In defense of Steve, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is fully aware of her mental health issues and DOES get into it with her as he tries to talk her back down from outer space. That may result in some yelling even though he's just tryign to help her. We've seen him stand up to her before, he pushes right back. In any case don't blame the poor kid for being upset.
If she does this to Jon, and Steve, imagine TLC trying to deal with her and her demands and the things she will do to get her way. It wouldn't even be worth it when they have so many other shows they can put energy into.
Admin (#96), I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but there seems to be a huge, glaring credibility issue with this story. If TFW sincerely believes her ex is capable of sexual misconduct with one child, wouldn't she keep
ALL of her children away from him? As in ZERO contact?
Milo is going way overboard in her IG posts. She posted the following on IG with a picture of Shoka as a puppy:
miloandjack2016#ThrowBackPic
8 yrs ago a one of a kind King Shepherd pup was born...
Whose future included the healing of a heart broken & torn.
He helped a special Mom of eight...
His life long human his master named Kate!
#ShoutOutToShoka. ❤
Then one of the replies said:
nick_moyHow true and poetic. You are an incredibly great and special friend to be by your side.
IMO, this is somewhat over the top stalking. She can't just post on Kate's IG, she has to use her own IG account to promote Kate and pretend that she's Kate's BFF.
If I were Kate, I'd find this obsessive behavior very disturbing. But then, I'm not Kate.
I was just rereading the case of the McMartin Preschool sexual abuse charges. The woman who made the initial charge was diagnosed with acute schizophrenia and died of chronic alcoholism before the prelimiary hearing of the case even took place.
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Anyone who wants to have an opinion about sex abuse scandals must read all about that case first before concluding that victims should just be believed and anything else is anti-women/rape culture/feminism.
Although my comments aren't showing up, I'll just keep trying. LOL
A link to be above comment:
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
is here:
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/10/19/jon-gosselin-kidnapped-daughter-hannah-drug-dealer-police-report/
So now Jon shouldn't use the police to ensure he sees all his children? I'm really confused on this.
If TFW sincerely believes her ex is capable of sexual misconduct with one child, wouldn't she keep
ALL of her children away from him? As in ZERO contact?
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I fully believe she's tried, and succeeded with some of them. The twins, Collin. But alienation is her only course of action. If the courts don't believe the allegations and have ordered him to see his kids, unless she can sway her kids not to go (and Jon won't enforce the visitation), she's gotta let the visits occur.
She is going to be in for a rude awakening when these kids grow adult brains and realize Jon's not evil, and then realize how much she robbed from them.
Anonymous said... 99
Wasn't Hanna the one who, it's been said, objected to TFW's treatment of Collin?
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Yes, and that was a part of the story that has since evolved into allegations of kidnapping, drug dealing, and "suspicious" behavior. As I recall, Hannah complained to Jon about Kate being "mean" to Collin. And I'm sure that's not the half of it.
KIAT (#113), Gladys should've put an asterisk next to that "life long human" line in the Shoka poem. She always forgets the dog was sent away with his sister, only to come back alone.
And Gladys can try to rewrite history all she wants, but it all began the kids thanking TFW
for the puppies, and her snottily responding,
"You're not welcome!" I will never be convinced that woman is now in love with a large, hairy, jumping, shedding, barking animal.
I would bet that the kids (including the twins) have NO idea what Kate has told the police and the court about Jon. The kids continued to see Jon after she made her accusations because a judge said he could. But I bet Jon is too much of a decent human being to ever inform his children of just what "Mommy" accused him of. Unfortunately for them, now not only they, but the whole world, is finding out.
If only the children realized, all they have to do now is refuse to film and TALK to people who have an interest in their welfare (e.g., school admin and teachers) about what Mommy is doing. If they show up on "set" with no smile and a bad attitude, what's Figure 8 and TLC gonna do? Sue 'em? No f---ing way.
@Admin BTW you said in an old post that Hannah is the golden child to Kate.I don't think thats true anymore ever since the whole Hannah outrage a year ago.Its definitely Mady especially after the whole people magazine clown fiesta.
Tamara said... 116
So now Jon shouldn't use the police to ensure he sees all his children? I'm really confused on this.
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The police won't do anything. I remember posting a few times when the comments were made about Jon calling the police. My response then, as it is now, is that perhaps he didn't want to upset the kids when he knew darn well that the police will not get involved in custody issues.
Is Gladys on overtime duty in her spokesperson role to do damage control? I hope she gets paid well for her job. If she can't keep up, there's always Barb, Denise or Carlene to step in and offer assistance!
But not to worry, Kate's a very loving person. You can tell by the way she loves her dogs.
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Not so much since Mak destroyed her precious wood floors. I believe that he will be among the banished canines very shortly.
Tucker's Mom said... 96
I knew Kate would use Jon's DJ'ing career against him. I just had no idea how far she'd go.
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Oh, she will go far, believe me. She is a very scary person who is filled with hate and bent on revenge, and all because Jon wouldn't keep that little gravy train rolling.
Oh My Lanta
What a witch!! First of all, my parents had a couple of beers every night while watching tv.
Second of all, if he were a drug dealer they would have discovered this after the complaint.
For her to insinuate sexual abuse is disgusting. The "suspicious" behavior she sees is probably Jon showing actual affection, something she knows nothing about. ANd I find getting foot rubs from your kids weird.
She should be charged with filing false reports.
Are the actual reports anywhere to view? I assume the "kidnapping" one is when Hannah didn't want to go home. Were the other one or two from the same incident? Sorry I probably should read more comments before I comment...I'm just gobsmacked
What made her think Jon would come by with a gun on that specific date (4/25/15)? Does anyone remember the tweet she sent out accidentally thinking it was a DM? This article about it was May 3 2015, and said the tweet was "last week" so that must have been what it was about:
“I’m in 24 hour protection mode here. Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?”
http://www.inquisitr.com/2063290/kate-gosselin-posts-cry-for-help-on-twitter-then-deletes-tweet-that-references-her-ex-husband/#HcBw0Uz7meKY1yDA.99
CC said... 59
Wow.
Ok so let me ask this. If the police refused to get involved because it was a "custody" and "civil" matter, is that why "Jon doesn't just call the cops" like people claim he can, so that he can see Collin? Maybe they won't do anything to help him and he really does have to go to court every time he wants to fight her
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That's how it happened with me. The cops were very nice but said give it til the end of the weekend if he doesn't bring her back call your lawyer
Saw one of those "I am" commercials on TLC the other day. While several shows/families were on there, no Gosselins. I wonder if that means they are finished?
I wonder how much money good ole Steve has made off the Gosselins in the 8 years he's been hanging around. A bundle, I have no doubt. Even when she was not filming, he was certainly still around. And I wonder if his function now is less to "bodyguard" the kids and more to help her "enforce" her will irrespective of their wishes.
I also just figured out why the dogs are there---they are hostages. If any kid steps out of line and refuses to film, that'll be the first threat, "well, then we won't be able to keep the dogs." After she's lavished the dogs with attention and encouraged the kids to get attached. This is so clearly her MO I'm ashamed it didn't occur to me before now. No kid is gonna say no to her if the price is the banishment of a beloved pet.
She must be stopped. And I hope TLC finds the balls to do so.
TLC stinks said... 61
Would not be surprised if Jon smokes weed but a dealer???? And the occasional beer like most folks? Geez. She has poisoned those kids against Jon. They must go home and get the 3rd degree about Jon.
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Right? Weed seems almost more popular among college kids than beer these days.
Yes! She totally IS Betty Broderick!
“Kate doesn’t allow the kids to spend one minute longer with Jon than their allotted time,” an insider revealed to the publication. “She lashes out at Jon. It’s so sad.” In fact, the source believes that Kate actually made the allegations against him because she wanted to have Hannah back with her in time to film the family reality show Kate Plus 8.
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Yup, that would make Kate go ballistic. She's filming and having signed the kids up for filming, they are all obligated to be there. Sounds like Hannah might have wanted to avoid filming, too.
Jon holding up production of the shit show because he's letting Hannah stay at his place could definitely make Kate go Postal.
Deliverence said... 115
Although my comments aren't showing up, I'll just keep trying. LOL
A link to be above comment:
"After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.”
is here:
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/10/19/jon-gosselin-kidnapped-daughter-hannah-drug-dealer-police-report/
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Bahaha busted!!
Kate is a twit said... 113
Milo is going way overboard in her IG posts. She posted the following on IG with a picture of Shoka as a puppy:
miloandjack2016#ThrowBackPic
8 yrs ago a one of a kind King Shepherd pup was born...
Whose future included the healing of a heart broken & torn.
He helped a special Mom of eight...
His life long human his master named Kate!
#ShoutOutToShoka. ❤
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But then one day
He was sent away.
He and his sister
Nala.
At least he had
His friend and sis
To comfort and
Love each other
Than came the witch
And tore them apart
Now together
Only in heart
Sad but true said... 130
I wonder how much money good ole Steve has made off the Gosselins in the 8 years he's been hanging around. A bundle, I have no doubt. Even when she was not filming, he was certainly still around. And I wonder if his function now is less to "bodyguard" the kids and more to help her "enforce" her will irrespective of their wishes.
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Steve has always had an ulterior motive to keep those kids working and filming. I can't think that his intentions are pure regarding the welfare of the kids.
There's more detail in this version (probably from InTouch, but I'm not going to buy one for this).
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/10/19/jon-gosselin-kidnapped-daughter-hannah-drug-dealer-police-report/
"Apparently it all began when, on April 23, 2015, Hannah visited Jon and refused to leave.
The police report says that Kate called the police and reported her missing. “Hannah was found safe with Jon,” the incident data sheet filed by the Lower Heidelberg Township, PA. police department read. After being checked on by officers, the report stated that Hannah had complained that Kate and “Steve” — presumed to be her bodyguard Steve Neild — were “always yelling.” She said that she “did not want to go home to her mommy.”
And while the incident looked like a closed case, Kate escalated the event, calling the police again and claiming that Jon had “kidnapped” Hannah. But it didn’t even stop there. “[Kate] told PD her ex-husband is a drug dealer, who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics,” the papers said. “She also stated he frequently drinks alcohol around the children.”
But perhaps worst of all, she also reportedly said that she believed Jon had left Hannah alone for a night without supervision. And then three days later she told police that she suspected him of “suspicious behavior” with Hannah. However, investigators found no evidence to suggest that Jon had harmed Hannah in any way.
“Kate doesn’t allow the kids to spend one minute longer with Jon than their allotted time,” an insider revealed to the publication. “She lashes out at Jon. It’s so sad.” In fact, the source believes that Kate actually made the allegations against him because she wanted to have Hannah back with her in time to film the family reality show Kate Plus 8.
But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
. This is so clearly her MO I'm ashamed it didn't occur to me before now
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I've long thought that the pets were ultimately to keep the kids preferring being at the compound, being indebted to Kate, the self-proclaimed "Mother of the Year" for Bringing Shoka back, and most of all, threatening the pets' demise if the kids don't show Kate just how much they appreciate her letting them have everything she's worked so hard for (which is to say, if they refuse to film, it all goes away).
I think Kate has told the kids the *everything* goes away if they don't film. Plus, she probably says that if Jon wasn't such a deadbeat, she wouldn't have to raise the ALL ALONE.
It's a two-fer for Kate.
But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
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Thing is, we've heard this before. Not that I know anything about what Jon has done or is doing, but it just seems like there's nothing every going to change until the kids turn 18.
Some puzzle pieces are falling in place regarding Mady's comments, Hannah's actions, and Collin's situation. There is probably so much we still don't know about. I feel terrible for Jon and the kids.
This is her worst nightmare:
"But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
And I don't think she's gonna have TLC money to back her in a court fight this time. I hope she's done a lot of YouTube research, because I think her days on network TV are coming to an end.
Even the sheep can't support her claims. The comments on the Daily Mail site are almost 100% negative. She really has crossed the line with these allegations; TLC has to take note.
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Anonymous said... 142
Even the sheep can't support her claims. The comments on the Daily Mail site are almost 100% negative. She really has crossed the line with these allegations; TLC has to take note.
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If these revelations don't open their eyes, nothing will.
Anyone who's been through divorce with children has to ask themselves that if their child(ren) balked at coming home and wanted to stay with Dad longer, would they call the police and tell them the father kidnapped them? Or, would you have an adult conversation about why the children don't want to come home, and work it out reasonably?
Then, they have to ask themselves if they would ever level allegations as sinister as incest? And please, don't tell me that there's ever been anything remotely hinky about Jon's behavior.
He has been the more loving parent, by far.
Tucker's Mom said... 139
But apparently Jon isn’t going down without a fight. “Jon will soon file the paperwork needed to obtain join legal custody of the kids,” the source added. “He misses them every day.”
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Thing is, we've heard this before. Not that I know anything about what Jon has done or is doing, but it just seems like there's nothing every going to change until the kids turn 18.
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Yes we have, but that was usually about physical custody. Hopefully he is going to try and get joint or full legal custody and can have more of a say with his kids. If Wacky sent C away without telling him, he has an excellent case against her.
I just hope Kate doesn't get Madie to lie about being abused..seems like she goes along with Kate most of the time.
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I don't think TFW would ask her to do this because if she did M would have to talk to professionals and I don't think she'd be able to pull it off the lie. AND if it ever came out that TFW encouraged her child to lie about something as serious as this there would be hell to pay.
TFW is just evil and the picture at the top of the blog depicts her perfectly. The only thing missing are the horns.
I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate.
TFW is just evil and the picture at the top of the blog depicts her perfectly. The only thing missing are the horns.
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And cloven hooves.
Leslie said... 146
I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
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Thanks for the heads up regarding how this travesty is once again making the national news.
Once again, I don't know how these kids cope with all of this. Can you imagine your face and/or your parents faces being plastered across the internet and tv with the latest allegations, dirt and finger pointing going on between your divorced parents?
Divorce all alone is an enormous emotional burden for children to handle. I don't know how the kids can handle knowing that this circus continues to be played out publicly, and it just never stops.
I'd want to swallow myself up if I had to face school.
First, have always believed the pets were pawns to keep the kids in line and away from Jon, as in, if you leave to see your father, I will not take care of the pets or chickens. I think in particular this tactic affected Collin.
Second, the puppies were a bribe to film. Now poor Mak is not pleasing Kate. He's out.
Third, I've been waiting for a sexual abuse claim from her. That's the way her sick mind works. Revenge is what motivates her. Jon ruined her career by not playing along.
Such turmoil in that household. We've been predicting this for years. All the kids are going to be in counseling as adults. No.doubt.about.it.
Anyone who's been through divorce with children has to ask themselves that if their child(ren) balked at coming home and wanted to stay with Dad longer, would they call the police and tell them the father kidnapped them? Or, would you have an adult conversation about why the children don't want to come home, and work it out reasonably?
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I remember many years ago Dr. Laura Schlessinger talking about this very thing. She said it's not uncommon for kids of divorce once they reach a certain age to want to play this back & forth staying with their parents. One month they may be in good with Mom & want to stay there or vice versa. Her advice was to let them go ahead & bounce back & forth. If the parents are co-parenting well it really shouldn't be an issue. Of course therein lies the rub for Kate.
@Tucker's Mom 143 Even if what the fans claim about Jon is true and that he hates Kate more then he loves his kids or that he doesn't care about his kids.I seriously doubt he'd do something like that to Hannah and again like i said before,if this was true then why hasn't Kate tried everything she can to protect not just Hannah but all of her kids?Also i notice neither Milo or msgoody has said a word about this story,mainly becuase how can any supporter of Kate defend this?
Admin.- Do you think it is reasonable and very likely that TLC is now afraid to air the episodes they have in the can. All these very serious, empty threats about Jon are horrible and really speak to Kate's sickness of mind. And then Collin being separated from his family speaks to the seriousness of his on-going issues. Not to mention the two kids being kicked out of kindergarten for horrible behavior. And don't forgot all of the excessive and terrible garbage that came about in 2009/2010 when Jon and Kate divorced.That was documented by TLC and in numerous magazines.
In my mind, TLC should be frightened to be continuing filming this messed-up family. Maybe one or more of the eight kids will sue TLC down the road for filming their ENTIRE lives when they really could not give permission for them to do so. Maybe they will state that all of the public attention that TLC brought upon them damaged them and that TLC had plenty of evidence that their Mother was not of sound mind to be making the decision to put them on TV. Even if the kids don't win the lawsuit I highly doubt TLC wants it dragged publically through the courts.
I really hope this is the time TLC decides to cut the cord. The show is not that good anyway.
TLC stinks said... 147
Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate.
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You know Kate and Steve argue like an old married couple. Remember when Kate marched Steve into the RV so she could bite his head off?
Then, they have to ask themselves if they would ever level allegations as sinister as incest? And please, don't tell me that there's ever been anything remotely hinky about Jon's behavior.
He has been the more loving parent, by far.
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Jon was just fine with the kids whenever it suited her needs, globetrotting around to book signings & public speaking engagements stopping home only long enough to reapply her manicured french tips & repack her bags for her next bodyguarded adventure.
Leslie said... 146
I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
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YES!!!!
Leslie said... 146
I fell asleep in my chair and woke up with the TV on at 6:02pm this evening. E Entertainment was airing Kate's story about Jon in the IN TOUCH magazine. It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once. No wonder with Collin's issues and this story about Jon and Hannah TLC has not shown any new shows.
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According to Kate, they've been filming like a house a-fire for months. But maybe it hasn't been for TLC. Hmmm.
It wouldn't surprise me if neither TLC nor Figure 8 ever had the full story on last year's allegations until right now. There was a lot of speculation, but even in the interviews Jon did with Steve Harvey and others, he has never come close to divulging the depths of this disgusting behavior by Kate. I'm sure he kept his mouth shut to spare his children. But neither Figure 8 nor TLC will be able to ignore this going forward. They have to know that these sorts of accusations are a sure sign of Kate's mental instability and will not enhance her popularity. They can't pretend NOT to know after this, which surely increases their liability when it comes time for the kids to sue. Which I hope they do. She is ruining lives here and all the while telling us how much F.U.N. it is.
Can you imagine being at the awkward, insecure age of 12 and having to go to school after the world learned your mother accused your father of grabbing your......?
TLC stinks said... 147
Hmmm... her and Steve yelling at each other (like a married couple, no doubt). Could it be that Steve was unhappy with Jeff in the picture?? Maybe someday Jeff will elaborate.
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I don't think Jeff ever got that close. This has been going on for a very long time---remember the RV episodes ("Can we talk privately?") and talk from people nearby that there was a lot of yelling going on? For all intents and purposes, they're an old married couple whether they doing it or not. And Steve has been in the role of "stepdad" without any legal authority.
Tucker's Mom I thoroughly agree with you.I just wrote Admin. a post about this and ask if TLC should be afraid that one or more of the kids may sue down the line.It is disgusting that Kate insists that their highly dysfunctional lives be broadcast as a reality show expanding over 10 years now. Gee, what great family movies these shows are...NOT! Their entire lives have been documented. They is NO WAY that this is not affecting them. And it will continue to affect them more as they mature and gain the full understanding of it.
Kate's & Jon's families must be really upset over these allegations. I suspect they know Kate is nuts and Jon is a good guy. Yes, he has made mistakes but Kate has made many, many more than him. Her most fatal mistake is filming all her kids' lives for cash and fame. It is very obvious that this family has serious issues.
Gee, not an inspirational platitude from Milo to be seen. Or anyone else, for that matter. Fair-weather friends.
That bologna has a first name
It's K A T I E
That bologna has a last name
It's P S Y C H O
Oh, she loves to lie and accuse Jon of bad things everydayyyyyyyy
Cause Katie Psycho needs to pay
Please judge, send her lying @ away!
I don't think Jeff ever got that close. This has been going on for a very long time---remember the RV episodes ("Can we talk privately?") and talk from people nearby that there was a lot of yelling going on? For all intents and purposes, they're an old married couple whether they doing it or not.
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Yes. I have a funny feeling he sees his role as almost sort of a handler to her, an advisor. As if she were someone actually really famous who needs an entourage of advisors and he's at the top. Pathetic.
For her, it's more like a dysfunctional marriage I guess.
I think they talk about everything. Custody, Jon, her career, filming. They could have been bickering about anything.
I do think he seems rather humorless, and seems rather snippy with her at times, patronizing, and not very understanding. We've also observed him to step back and NOT defuse things he easily could defuse, such as telling her to chill out over the pizza he'll find something else. I don't like her of course, but I'm not particularly fond of how he treats her and the kids either. He kind of seems like an ass, really.
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Tamara said... 116
So now Jon shouldn't use the police to ensure he sees all his children? I'm really confused on this.
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The police won't do anything. I remember posting a few times when the comments were made about Jon calling the police. My response then, as it is now, is that perhaps he didn't want to upset the kids when he knew darn well that the police will not get involved in custody issues.
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I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
It made her seem like the bitch she is. WOW! Maybe this will bring her down for once.
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I don't know what would bring her down if anything, but I do think most people really draw the line at this. Accusing your ex of sexual abuse when it's not true has to be about the most heinous thing anyone could ever do in a custody dispute. On so many levels. That's not just an attack on your ex, that's an attack on your own children.
I think a lot of women identify with Kate because they have had bad ex's. But even those would never dream of making shit up. There's you hate your ex, and there's you're being psycho. She's the latter.
At the very least, this could cause at least a small fleecing if not more, even if it happens quietly.
Think of all the times Jon has been asked about Kate since April 2015, and all the times he graciously chose not to bring up, by the way, my psycho ex has accused me of molesting my child. Chew on that.
Jon's right, she's an asshole.
I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
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The police WILL do something.
I think what we're saying at this point though is that we understand so much better now how much she will retaliate if he calls the cops, and wouldn't stop at accusing him of sexual abuse. That level of nut job really something to think about before you call the cops, I think everyone has some level of sympathy and understanding about that.
Remember all along we have been saying there's a missing piece here, what is it??? It was THIS.
Oh, and I love how she accuses Jon of KIDNAPPING when the facts are Hannah didn't want to go home.
Geez what is Jon supposed to do when she's like this, refuse to take her in?? Good Lord, the dramatics. Kidnapping! Shaking my head.
Hey, does anyone remember when Kate accidentally tweeted a private DM where she was trying to figure out about a DJ gig of Jon's??? Can anyone find that, and the timing of that?
What was that, her "research" on all his drug deals to show the cops?
I thought Admin has been saying all along that the police most definitely will do something. That Jon has legal custody time and the police can and will defend that. So, which is it? The police will get involved or not?
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Maybe it depends where you are, and in what jurisdiction. I do know that in this area, the police are hands-off when it comes to a custody fight. Perhaps it's the same in Kate's county. They just don't want to get involved, and if there's nothing on the books that say that they are required to do so, they'll pass it off to the courts.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 169
See above, localyocul's got the goods. And yes, that tweet was exactly when all this shit was going down.
Right? Weed seems almost more popular among college kids than beer these days.
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Weed is EVERYWHERE, and it's more than just college kids. I know tons of people who do it, and see it all the time, and most of them are doing so legally here. You smell it all over LA. I can't tell you how many weed cases I've seen dismissed. People understand now the war on weed was racial and that weed is not any more harmful than alcohol. I only wish it didn't stink, because the smell is everywhere.
I actually prefer people to use weed rather than drink. For some reason people drink then drive home or they get aggressive. People who smoke weed tend to just hang out on the couch and not hurt anything or anyone, lol. Prop 64 is on the CA ballot this year to make weed legal and it's expected to pass with flying colors. It's also expected to create thousands of jobs and create a boom from the taxes. I'm voting yes.
Waaaa Jon smoked a joint? Kate, seriously get the stick out.
fic date (4/25/15)? Does anyone remember the tweet she sent out accidentally thinking it was a DM?
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AHHH good job!!! GMTA. Oh my god, I can't believe that was right when she accused him of sex abuse.
Full on protection mode??? Kate, you f-ing NUT. I know in your pin brain he is molesting your daughter, but he's not. Get some HELP.
w that in this area, the police are hands-off when it comes to a custody fight. Perhaps it's the same in Kate's county. They just don't want to get involved, and if there's nothing on the books that say that they are required to do so, they'll pass it off to the courts.
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Police aren't supposed to get involved in terms of settling disputes, but they are supposed to enforce court orders. Therefore if you have a custody order that says you get your daughter on Saturday, and Dad is keeping her that Saturday, you need to show the cops your order and have them help you go get your daughter. They should, have to, help you enforce your piece of paper.
Now, here's an example of when they won't get involved. You call the cops because Dad took the kids to the zoo on his custody time, they came back sunburned, and cranky because they didn't get their nap, and you found out they stayed up all night the night before with him eating chocolate and popcorn and you're pissed. Then, the police are going to say go to court, because there's nothing for them to "enforce". They don't *make* family law decisions, they simply ENFORCE decisions that a judge already made.
If they are not helping you enforce an order, you really need to complain to your city or board of supervisors or whoever is their "boss." They need to enforce court orders, that's their job as law ENFORCEMENT.
I'd love to hear how those 3 phone calls went down.
I would guess her first call to the police was when Hannah didn't want to go home. She called and said her ex had kidnapped their daughter. That was probably after she stood outside his house screaming.
When the police found out that was bogus, she called and said her ex used his dj job as a cover for selling drugs, and oh, he drinks alcohol in front of the kids.
When THAT didn't work, she called and said her ex has a gun and she fears for her life.
And to think there's now a record of her vile, vengeful self. The sheep must be beside themselves trying to come up with excuses.
I remember many years ago Dr. Laura Schlessinger talking about this very thing. She said it's not uncommon for kids of divorce once they reach a certain age to want to play this back & forth staying with their parents. One month they may be in good with Mom & want to stay there or vice versa. Her advice was to let them go ahead & bounce back & forth. If the parents are co-parenting well it really shouldn't be an issue. Of course therein lies the rub for Kate.
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I hate Dr. Laura, but she's right about that, within reason. Kids will do this. Heck kids even do this with parents who are together, gravitating toward one parent or the other when they get mad at one. I understand why Jon may have stepped back a bit when the twins played it that they wanted to stay with mom. Better to let them not feel so chained to the court orders and get a chance to have their own input. In that case, it went on far too long, but I understand his initial reaction was to be patient and it was a reasonable one.
Even Jon talked about waffling back and forth between his parents when he was a kid. It's normal.
She's selfish and rigid and can't just let Hannah have her space for a couple days. What's the big deal? Heaven forbid Jon gets two minutes more than he's entitled to each week.
Nine times out of ten, a kid will take a couple days to cool off and then come back. Funny enough, I think Hannah may be one of the first kids to estrange her. The one Kate claimed to love the most.
And yet you rip into people who have questions about Juanita Broaddrick's account, saying how dare anyone second guess the alleged victim. Funny how things change when it suits your political purpose. Just more blatant hypocrisy.
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Juantia Broaddrick is a grown woman, not a child who can be influenced by a parental alienator. That said, I never said you have to believe her. What was said, is that her story is credible and therefore, *should* be believed BECAUSE it is credible. What you and Hillary want, is for people to believe rape stories simply because someone made a rape story. That is flat out wrong, flat....out....wrong. Rather, each story needs to be assessed individually, weighing its credibility. What was said, is that one needs to ASSESS the credibility and not just blindly believe things. I believe the stories about Bill Clinton's recent interns rubbing his feet, too. But I assessed the story individually, instead of just blindly believing the allegations.
I think we've spent years assessing Kate's credibility here. We have assessed this more than she ever deserved.
Why don't YOU look for it rather than asking your minions to do the work for you?
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The minions already found it. Thanks.
Well, and Tucker and those who have commented on this, you know what's really sad about her not having the "adult" conversation you talk about regarding WHY Hannah didn't want to go home? Kate could have LEARNED something. She could have had some reflection and realized that some of the bickering occurring between her and Steve is getting so bad it's upsetting the children. Upsetting Hannah to the point where she doesn't even want to be home.
All she would have to do is speak to Hannah about the bickering, apologize, and work hard to stop doing it. The household could have been so much more peaceful if she actually tried to listen to her children's concerns and correct herself. But it's not about that. It's not about listening to the kids, or trying to make them comfortable in their own home, or having a moment of reflection and self-improvement. She will never, ever get it.
Deflect, deflect, deflect! Look at the picture of me lifting up 60 pound NookiePookie. Ignore those stories I'm holding my puuuuuuuuppy!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 177
Why don't YOU look for it rather than asking your minions to do the work for you?
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We've all asked for help recalling from time to time, because we remember different things to different degrees. Sometimes my neurons fire and connect and I can draw a line between something that is discussed today, to a factoid from long ago.
Just today, this breaking story drew a straight line to what Kate has said in the past about "having to" protect her children from Jon.
I don't know if everyone recalls her divorce announcement, but I do. So, I made the point that Kate doesn't just tilts at windmills, rather, she doesn't give a crap about the veracity of her accusations against Jon, as long as she eventually destroys his involvement with the children.
Kate has been vying for complete control of her children by marginalizing Jon. Now, it seems, her goal is to exclude him completely, even if she has to accuse him of heinous acts and/or ruin him financially and put him behind bars.
Mostly, screw you, sheep, for even comparing any of us to Kate's lickspittles. The relationships here are collegial and respectful. No one is blowing sunshine up Admin's ass on a daily basis.
Unlike Kate, I have a feeling Admin would tell them to knock it off because it's creepy.
Deflect, deflect, deflect! Look at the picture of me lifting up 60 pound NookiePookie. Ignore those stories I'm holding my puuuuuuuuppy!
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I wonder if Shoka has wondered yet when Kate will accuse him of molesting one of his kids. His days are numbered.
When Mady talked about not having time for a toxic relationship, it's ironic. Kate is the one who is toxic and her relationships are toxic for everyone around her.
Cannot believe she posted an IG photo tonight.
kateplusmy8Just wanted to see if I could still lift her 😉! I can even tho she weighs about 60 pounds or more!!! #Nanuq #AMomAndHerDog
"See how strong I am? I can still beat the crap out of my kids when they don't do as I say. I'm in charge, and that's never going to change." This is one very sick cookie.
Nine times out of ten, a kid will take a couple days to cool off and then come back. Funny enough, I think Hannah may be one of the first kids to estrange her. The one Kate claimed to love the most.
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Did she claim to love her the most? I know she was the golden child, the favorite one. All I remember is that she said that Hannah is the one she "bonded with." Then again, I don't remember everything Kate said, nor do I want to. She's just too weird for me.
And Milo had much to say about the photo:
miloandjack2016 She looks HUGE there...not just the weight...but her SIZE! How tall is she?? @kateplusmy8
nonaof2And still growing right @kateplusmy8 ?
mydmaxx2581BTW. You look fit as every. 👍
jamiepumpkin 3 U r a nut! But I love u anyway..
miloandjack2016 When the 1st grandchild comes...put a saddle on #Nanuq! #RideBabyRide. LOL. SERIOUSLY #Nanuq just seems to have really grown fast! How often you feeding them? You must literally be preparing meals all day between kids & furbabies? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 LOL. #CrazyWoman! 😋 If I tried that my butt would be on the floor!
miloandjack2016 Update on #BrotherMak? Is he getting better? We see who does the #RoughAndTumble stuff w/the pups! LOL. 😋 NOT the kids....HaHa. @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy 8 Look closer! My butt IS on the floor! Lol! @miloandjack2016
miloandjack2016 Oh...missed that!! Measure her from floor to top of her head...she may get taller than #Shoka!! @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8Yes! They are 6 months old today so they are only 3/4 their final weight!!! Probably the last time I'll be able to lift her 😥😥! @babu_1 @maryaumuller @nonaof2
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Comment of the night to PumpkinBottom: U r a nut!
When Mady talked about not having time for a toxic relationship, it's ironic. Kate is the one who is toxic and her relationships are toxic for everyone around her.
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D., I think Mady will see that someday. She may be a 36 year old single woman with a divorce under her belt and multiple failed relationships and other relationships in shambles, and she'll look in the mirror and realize this all goes back to her MOTHER, not her father as she was led to believe for all those years. Poor kid.
Did she claim to love her the most? I know she was the golden child, the favorite one. All I remember is that she said that Hannah is the one she "bonded with." Then again, I don't remember everything Kate said, nor do I want to. She's just too weird for me.
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I was kind of exaggerating, but yeah it was something about feeling closer to her or bonding with her better. It wasn't outright I love her more, but I remember the comments were very strange.
Another wonderful legacy TFW has provided for her children. Now, not only can they Google "M is a b****," but "H molestation." Talk about making memories.
Put down the 60-pound deflection, er, uh, dog, and say it, TFW: I AM A HORRIBLE MOTHER.
By the way that was another reason I speculated earlier that Kate DM's people like Milo and others talking about this stuff. Because we have that accidental DM indeed trying to speak to someone, I believe a fan, about Jon. And then add to that Milo hinting that she knows things we don't. Kate, you are unbelievably inappropriate.
Radar has a screenshot Kate's original tweet about being in "protection mode". It was made on May 1, 2015, a few days after she filed the police reports.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-feud-twitter-reality-tv-mom-tweets-bizarre-message/
Still don't know what she meant by that tweet, which most of us assumed at that time that it was meant to be a DM instead of a public tweet. It's possible that after she made those police reports she was told by someone(possibly her attorney) to have absolutely no contact with Jon and that's why she said she was in "protection mode", to not discuss or say anything about Jon.
In her determination to get back at Jon with a vengeance, she slipped up by posting that tweet.
I hope TLC drops her permanently like they did
Honey Boo Boo.
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They won't as long as they can make money off her. They have no conscience.
"Mostly, screw you, sheep, for even comparing any of us to Kate's lickspittles."
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lol, Tucker's. My sediments exactly. The sheep troll should take her own advice and go play with her own minions where she's obviously loved and revered.
Remember when they Jon and Kate separated in 2009 when Kate called the police on Jon because she did not like the babysitter that Jon picked out. This was when Jon was still living at the McMansion. I think it was one of his girlfriends.
It was so bad that when Whoopie on The View told Kate strongly that she was WRONG to call the police on Jon when it was his time with the kids.
Little did we know that Kate has continued to call the police on Jon. She is a horrible woman.
What a s**tshow. Terrible things are in the news about her family and the best Kate can do is say look I can lift a dog. She's a complete ass with no love for her children. I also blame Steve. He supports her and enables her, he knows tons of intimate details about their lives. I'm sure he's seen if she beats them, if she drinks too much, what she files with the court, etc. Yet he has apparently done nothing to protect those children. He keeps getting paid. You can maybe say Kate would be worse without him but I believe things would be better for those kids if she wasn't allowed to abuse them.
Poor Hannah. She tried to take care of her brother and herself. And instead she is stuck in that house and her brother was sent away. Now it's out there that her mom said her dad sexually touched her. She probably had to be interviewed by police about it. Devastating.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 173
fic date (4/25/15)? Does anyone remember the tweet she sent out accidentally thinking it was a DM?
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AHHH good job!!! GMTA. Oh my god, I can't believe that was right when she accused him of sex abuse.
Full on protection mode??? Kate, you f-ing NUT. I know in your pin brain he is molesting your daughter, but he's not. Get some HELP.
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YEP her own Anthony Weiner moment LOL
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 178
Why don't YOU look for it rather than asking your minions to do the work for you?
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The minions already found it. Thanks.
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And that "minion" hadn't even seen that message. As you said GMTA
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 179
Well, and Tucker and those who have commented on this, you know what's really sad about her not having the "adult" conversation you talk about regarding WHY Hannah didn't want to go home? Kate could have LEARNED something. She could have had some reflection and realized that some of the bickering occurring between her and Steve is getting so bad it's upsetting the children. Upsetting Hannah to the point where she doesn't even want to be home.
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The thing is, why is Steve even around so much (cough)? Either because their home is their work (and set) or he is having a relationship with her. Otherwise, he would only be around when they are off-site somewhere. And even that is unnecessary.
I'm beginning to think paranoid Kate has Steve around to protect her from her big bad drug dealing gun totin ex.
Put down the 60-pound deflection, er, uh, dog, and say it, TFW: I AM A HORRIBLE MOTHER.
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Interesting that Kate hasn't been seen in the "I Am" promotion commercials.
Maybe TLC realizes they can't play it as ironic anymore.
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Police aren't supposed to get involved in terms of settling disputes, but they are supposed to enforce court orders. Therefore if you have a custody order that says you get your daughter on Saturday, and Dad is keeping her that Saturday, you need to show the cops your order and have them help you go get your daughter. They should, have to, help you enforce your piece of paper.
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But that's what it looks like actually happened. Kate was trying to enforce her custody order.
Kate was claiming Jon picked up Hannah from school when it wasn't his custody, otherwise he wouldn't need her "permission." So it was Kate's custody time and she called the cops to get Hannah back, or arrest Jon, or whatever she expected them to do.
The police report states "complainant (Kate) stated her ex-husband Jonathan Gosselin "KIDNAPPED" her daughter Wednesday, taking her from her school..."
Also from Radar Online: "In the April 2015 filing, the 41-year-old mother of eight told authorities she was “worried” about her child’s whereabouts after Jon, 39, picked her up from school without permission."
Jon has the kids on Tuesdays, according to him. So Wednesday is not his custody time.
So Kate did call the cops to enforce her custody time and the cops said it's a civil/family court matter.
So that means that they would most likely tell Jon the same thing, so calling the cops is not an option for him when he wants to see Collin, or Alexis, when it's his custody time and Kate only allows him to see the same four kids.
localyocul said... 196
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The thing is, why is Steve even around so much (cough)? Either because their home is their work (and set) or he is having a relationship with her.
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I think the one thing you can say with certainty is, when he's at the compound, he's not being a bodyguard. That hasn't been a plausible explanation for years.
But that's what it looks like actually happened. Kate was trying to enforce her custody order.
Kate was claiming Jon picked up Hannah from school when it wasn't his custody, otherwise he wouldn't need her "permission." So it was Kate's custody time and she called the cops to get Hannah back, or arrest Jon, or whatever she expected them to do.
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I really didn't look at the report that carefully but are we sure it wasn't his custody time? Also, do we know if Kate had a copy of the family law order in her hands when she requested her custody back? It's hard to know if she actually had her ducks in a row when she called them, or if she just called them in a total frenzy. I'm guessing frenzy. It's also possible in her frenzy the cops made the call at that moment not to enforce it, not because they didn't believe it was her time, but because they felt it best not to respond to her demands because of her demeanor, especially knowing it had only been a short time she'd been gone. I guess they can make that call in that moment. I think there is something to the fact that if you call the cops in a frenzy talking about kidnapping, drug sales and sexual abuse, you might actually make them less likely to want to work with your crazy self as opposed to had you have called them in a calm and reserved matter, had your family law order in hand, and politely requested their assistance.
She is entitled to enforcement as much as he is, and if either of them are having difficulty getting their respective family law orders enforced by the police, they really need to complain to the entity in charge of the police force in their county.
Family law orders mean nothing if the stupid police won't enforce them. That's their JOB.
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