Saturday, March 19, 2016

Recap: Kate Plus 8 'Deck Party': The 'majic' show flops, 10 people show up to the party of the century, and Kate re-plants some cornrows.

Coming up on Kate Plus 8, the writers don't even try anymore to make subplot B somehow relate at least mildly to main plot A. It's special time with the individuals kids, sort of, which in Kate's mind just means divide them up stereotypically by gender.

"I'm going to make you disappear!" Colin proclaims as he waves a magic wand. Who, Kate?

Plot A, or subplot B, I'm not sure which, involves building a deck and throwing a party for their dozens of friends. Hehe just kidding nobody non-Gosselin is at this big party but like three people.

Kate says this is the first "major exterior project" she's undertaken. I guess she's not counting the boob job.

The problems of the 1% require them to go over the river and through the woods past the gym, the conservatory, the library and the parlor if they just want to have a picnic outside. As she says this Leah dutifully follows the script carrying a bowl of food across the basement. What does Kate care about all this as long as the kids are the ones doing the hauling? The problem here seems two-fold. First, the layout of the house sounds terrible. Your kitchen does you no good if it's not near the other parts of the house you regularly bring food to and from. Two, the house, or mansion, sounds way too big to be practical. But then, these are things you should have thought about when you bought the house. It's perfectly reasonable to pass on a nice house because the layout sucks, or even, it's really just too big.

What is Kate wearing here? It's a thin cotton pastel purple frock that hangs on her like a potato sack. She looks like a homeless Easter Egg.



It's really amazing how the kids can't do anything without her nagging in their ears like a pesky little over-baked gnat. I cannot imagine their blood pressures. What a childhood. This time she's harping on them about how they're playing on their scooters in their school sneakers. Who cares? They're going to outgrow their shoes in six months anyway. And if they ruin their school sneakers then they'll just have to walk around school in dirty sneakers for a few months. That's their problem. Next she's rubbing her eyes over how the kids are piling up some apples they're picking. I give up.

Kate harkens us back to past episodes where the kids had their special days with her. As I remember this, Kate skipped out on each of the boy's days, which notably we only see a few clips of. The kids have never forgotten when they did this, she proclaims (the kids look about three, tops, in the clips). Wait a sec, is she suggesting the last time she did something one-on-one or even in small groups with the kids was eight years ago?

Her special day with the boys will be a magic lesson, to which Colin immediately explains that actually Aaden doesn't like magic at all. Heh, classic Kate. I hope the magician teaches them that old cutting up the lady trick with Kate as the volunteer, and it would be really great if he "forgets" to teach them how to put her back together. That's something our good Kiwi friend Brad would do!

There goes Shoka again right up against the car tires chasing them. This behavior is completely unacceptable and I have no idea why it's tolerated. This is going to end in tragedy one day, and all because someone was lazy and either doesn't train their dog properly or if he is truly not-trainable, refuses to stop being so lazy and put him inside when you are pulling out of the driveway.

This is rather odd, they meet up with some strange man wearing a striped polo shirt in the middle of an empty park somewhere. Isn't that how most murders start? Who is this? What is the context for this?

Eddie, the serial killer or magician, not sure which, takes Kate's phone and puts it inside a balloon. The boys don't seem all that impressed with this "trick", and all Kate can do is act constipated. Does this guy have any Yelp reviews? Now he's doing some lame card tricks. Joel keeps saying I know how you did that, and the guy mostly ignores him. Heh.

Ah the old handkerchief trick. This is not magic, it's a gag. I had one of those sets of handkerchiefs, and there is a ring inside that you hold and then pull the handkerchief through, revealing a different color. Lame. Predictably Kate is being nosey and trying to tell them how to do this, like she has any idea how this all works. Kate goes into a long explanation about how she wasn't trying to meddle she was trying to look out for their best interest so that when they put on their magic show for their sisters (how about they put it on for their friends?) they won't be made fools of.

And that's where Kate's parenting style is so off the mark. The boys need room to breathe and figure out these tricks among themselves. She should really just go shopping or something and come back later. On second thought, don't leave them alone with that strange man, but she could bring a book to read and sit far away and leave them be and STFU. And if the magic show fails then the boys will learn they didn't practice long enough or try hard enough, or ask enough questions, or had a lame magician teaching them and they should have read the Yelp reviews first. But the boys learn nothing by having their mother micro-manage the event. Instead their creativity and independent reasoning is completely stunted so they are nothing more than trained monkeys doing Kate's bidding.

The only thing the boys have to offer on the couch after all this is it was fun. They're not exactly poetic. Sometimes I get quite a big laugh out of all the build up and effort Kate puts into organizing things like this, only to be met with shrugged shoulders and, yeah sure it was fun, Mom. That's called raising pre-teens, and she doesn't get it and won't accept it. Lol. Indifferent children must be awful for someone who routinely requires massive ego stroking as part of their daily narcissistic supply.

Color me surprised Kate's taking the boys out to lunch too, at Aussie and the Fox. I thought for sure after the magic lesson she'd be over this. The boys love it. Aw. They plan out their magic show, and the boys don't really seem that into it. I think they might have more of a stake in this if they didn't have to do this for their sisters. What 11 year old boy cares what his sister thinks? Fake it 'til you make it, Kate advises. I imagine that's exactly how she snagged the son of a dentist.

I zoned out for a bit only to come back and they're talking about 3G magic. I'm scratching my head for a minute trying to figure out what the heck crappy cell phone service has to do with anything, until I realize, oh three "G" as in Gosselin. Duh. Even though this is really all about Kate being able to dicker around and film her little episode and collect her paycheck, you can tell how much the boys thrive when Kate listens to them and engages with them and spends time just with them, the girls not being a factor. What a difference. Well, she tied in the girls by making the boys do their show for the girls, but at least it's a start. She's their mother and they obviously adore her as boys this age tend to do with their mothers. It's a shame she can't give them more of what they need.

They go to the party store and pick up some junk. The only thing interesting that happens at the store was doofus here spelled magic with a J, then blamed it on the long day. Isn't it only just past lunch time? She sure loves her rest, doesn't she? Well, Einstein slept ten hours a day plus naps, so who am I to argue.

Next up mercifully for Kate it's the girls' day now. Well Sleepy here has certainly perked up as she takes them to none other than a completely gender stereotypical spa day to get their nails done. The next three minutes are a chance for Kate to step up on that platform and try to mitigate another sad incident in Gosselin history, when she had the girls get cornrows in their hair and it hurt so bad they were bawling. Kate now claims the new laid back Kate (lol!) would never have made them do that. Eh, yes she would.

Okay, a teeny tiny part of me is like, but they were so cute in those little cornrows so maybe it was worth the tears. Sorry, girls.

Well geez this only took 27 minutes for Kate to knock her childhood again. They are so lucky, I never went to a nail salon as a kid, she laments. Until I had to pay for it with my children's money myself.

Well, heck, I didn't frequent nail salons as a kid either. Where I'm from parents spend money on things that are going to enrich their children mentally, physically, and emotionally, not make them feel spoiled and pampered. If you can afford the luxury great it looks fun for a girl, and maybe it would be a nice treat for prom or something, but we couldn't justify that nor could most people. And nobody is worse off for it. We bought nail polish for 3.99 at Walmart and had fun painting our own nails at home. If you want things like manny-peddies when you grow up, you're going to have to figure out how you're going to work the kind of job that can afford such luxuries. Or marry a rich guy. But it's not a necessity of childhood nor is tasting lobster or any number of things Kate implies she was deprived of as a young person. While no one seems to know exactly what happened between her and her parents to cause such resentment, the more she opens her mouth the less I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt.

One of the girls actually says a baffled "Why??" when Kate says she didn't go to salons as a kid. Um, because the vast majority of parents, most of them good parents, can't afford it? Are they really this sheltered? What a mess.

I really cannot believe Kate is saying this but now she's tying in Jon to this saying that she wants her children to see that she hopes the children choose better and are happier and are more successful in marriage and in life. WTH? Because she can afford to use the money they mostly made for her to give them a spa day, they will have better lives and marriages? She still doesn't accept her role in the breakdown of her marriage either or understand the concept that just because you divorce someone doesn't mean they are a bad father or won't make a very good husband for someone else. This woman is certifiable.

And if you really want to get into it, Kate, I think there's a real good argument here that pampering kids at such a young age is just going to set them up for failure. There are many good men out there who would make good husbands who aren't going to be able to afford to send their wives every week to the spa, especially not when you're in your 20's and just starting out in the working world. If the girls grow up with the expectation a spa day should be a regular thing in life, how difficult is it going to be for them to have successful relationships and marriages when they have such unattainable, and shallow, standards?

On another note, does Kate think she is not successful in life? Huh? She has the house, the cars, the dog, eight beautiful healthy children, a beautiful part of the country to raise them up in, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars in paychecks steadily coming in.  She had a divorce but so do lots of people. On paper she sure looks pretty successful to me.

And this is the thing with exhausting bottomless pits like Kate. It doesn't matter if she marries a Saudi Arabian prince, it won't be enough. It's the reason her marriage failed, she has no boyfriend almost no family and almost no friends. It's as simple as that. Because most people cannot be a good partner, family member or friend to a bottomless pit for long before losing their ever loving mind.  Eventually, she won't have all her kids either, or I daresay any of them, because they all seem mostly normal and as such will eventually realize they're going to lose their ever loving minds too trying to be a son or daughter to that. Times like this, I almost, almost feel sorry for her. And I do feel sorry for the kids. It's not like they picked her as their mother.

Oh Kate also makes this comment that if the kids have better lives she'll probably say it was worth it. What was worth it? Filming? Dumping Jon? Spending money at the spa? As Ellen would say, stop talking in code!

Next they go and get their hair braided. Kate admits it's pathetic she can't braid. I like that she admits that, because we've seen the children's hair braided lots of times, so that must have been the nanny. Heh.

Wait, Kate means she can't even do a basic braid?? I thought she meant French braid or whatever, which can be hard for lots of people. It's one of those things you either can do or you can't. She's over by the mirror tooling around looking like she's trying to pat her head and rub her belly at the same time just doing a basic braid of her extensions. Most of the time I think in general she's pretty dumb, street dumb anyway, and this is one of those moments.


We're back, just in time for the twins to show up and make some snide remarks about their brothers' upcoming magic show. I hate the way these siblings treat each other. It's just wrong.

Fake it until you make it, Kate reminds the boys. Can you imagine her giving her kids "the talk" the day before they get married? 

I don't know what the girls are doing, something with coins and gift bags. They're only somewhat into this. 

Kate says "I really wanted the girls to get into" the magic show, and it just struck me what the bottom line is with Kate, and that is that she lives out little fantasies in her head of how things are going to be. The boys are going to learn these wonderful amazing magic tricks and present them flawlessly:



And their wonderful and loving audience of sisters will fall down with joy and appreciation at what a wonderful amazing magic show they just witnessed.



And the world will pause on its axis in reverence. It's like she wants the real people in her lives to live out her own fan fiction in her head. She never accounts for people being their own people and having their own independent thoughts, ideas and opinions. Why not just give the boys an opportunity to learn the tricks and then let them decide what happens next? Maybe they will decide they want to put on a show, or maybe call up some friends and show them informally, or maybe they will do nothing with what they just learned. But this is all so forced and manufactured it's virtually doomed to fail, the twins called it.

Woo-hoo, at least my fan fiction is being played out. Kate's the assistant! Joy! Cut her up.

Nothing much happens for the next several minutes but rolling film. The editors are so lazy. The boys put on a few lame tricks. Cara's playing on her phone. The girls are acting bored. Eventually the girls start laughing at the boys and sarcastically telling them how good the tricks are. Kate says her heart was hurt over it. Well, it should be, no matter it's two sizes two small. She has raised very rude and nasty young women who have no problem ganging up on and being cruel and cutting to their own flesh and blood.  I can't imagine this is the first time Kate has noticed how nasty they are to their brothers. Is it because she was part of the show too she noticed? There's sibling rivalry, which is normal, and then there's sibling cruelty, which is not normal and completely unacceptable. Kate has no one to blame but herself for allowing this behavior. Kate has to tell the girls to clap, and they refuse to, which is just mean. The only thing the girls admit was a good trick was the coloring book trick where it's colored in on one pass through and blank on a second pass through. I can't believe they couldn't figure that one out. That one's easier to get than the handkerchief trick.

Afterward Kate disingenuously tells each of the boys how incredible they did. I hate when adults try to make a kid who just sucked feel better by lying to them. It does them no favors. There's no reason to be negative to them, but kids are smart enough to know when you're just trying to help them feel better, and it makes it worse. You can tell of course they don't believe her. Sad. 

Commercials. Little people getting haircuts and painting their nails! Yea!

They're prepping for a deck party to pop their new deck's cherry. Wait, did I miss the episode where they actually built their deck or was that just a blog post? It seems like that would be far more of an (mildly) interesting episode than a bunch of dumb magic tricks. You know while all this boring stuff is going on I'm thinking about the boys and how in other families I know that have boys and girls, the girls know they can't give shit to their brothers or they'll get a knuckle sandwich. Unfortunately for the Gosselin boys all three of them are very quiet and passive, much like their father. When the girls are nasty to them, they always just stand there and take it and then make sad faces afterward. It's so pathetic. I wish I could light a fire under their bellies and get them to fight back a bit. One or two twisted ears and some noogies and those girls would shut up right quick.

Kate's making a big drama about putting together a deck chair. Mady calls her out as just putting on a show, she knows she can build things. Well the kids' lip is awful when they give it to their siblings, but amazing when they use it to call out Kate on her fake crap. Carry on.

There's a lot of yelling and screaming from Kate during this segment over mostly stupid stuff like what chairs get what pillows. At least Kate admits this is just how she is and she's trying to reign it in. I believe this is who she is, but I see absolutely no evidence she is trying to do better.

Their outdoor grill is AWESOME but are they sure it's not a really big fire hazard on that wooden deck and right up against the wooden house? I don't know about that. One unruly flame and it's over. Nothing else interesting happens except Kate claims this is going to be a big party, lol sure, and Mady telling Kate she has bad breath. Lol!

Kate is throwing a party as more of a science experiment just to see how many people she can fit on the deck. Shouldn't you ask the construction company that first?

I like that most of the guests so far consist mostly of former or current nannies, hehe. Trickling in there are a couple of the kids' friends including Marley and what looks like their moms, and that's about it.

The food looks good, with burgers and lots of grilled seafood. Kate counted 30 people there. I counted ten. 



As extras they brought in a nice Asian family with cute little kids they show when Kate talks about family, but I don't believe for a second those people are family. Very sneaky, Kate!

One of the boys does a backflip off the diving board. Why is it whenever I see diving boards now I hear Norma Bates from Bates Motel saying "no one builds pools with diving boards anymore. Too much liability." Heh, Vera Farmiga is so brilliantly chilling on that show, and what a perfect representation of a sociopath by the fine writers. Next up is Little Couple, which on principle I don't like because they exploit their kids too. However, I will say that they at least seem like nice people and certainly devoted parents. I appreciate the way the dad on that show talks about parenthood and how it's changed him. He is obsessed with his children, in a good way, it's sincere and not put on for the cameras like what Kate does, and they are lucky to have him.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The irony is that their sick views on sexuality breeds deviants like Josh and vagina cannons like Michelle.

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I agree. Had josh felt comfortable exploring his sexuality in a safe way, did not instead feel shame. Including talking about it in a household that encourages acceptance and openness, I doubt this ever would have happened.

Anonymous said...

infdaily.com has an article dated March 25, 2016 (with pictures) which states that she and the eight kids were "sauntering around The Alaska Zoo in Anchorage". According to the article this sighting was yesterday.

The same website has another article (also dated March 25, 2016) entitled "Kate Gosselin Drops Over $2,000. On A Haircut" (at Ted Gibson Salon).

Sounds like old material but just thought I would pass it along because both articles are dated today.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

The articles seem old. Odd they're recycling them with a current date.

Math Girl said...

I believe INFdaily puts the wrong date on their articles. They're re-posting old articles and putting a current date on them.

I looked for articles on Kate and the first one I found had 2009/05 in the URL, and refers to "Kate's husband, Jon", but also has a date of Mar 24, 2016 on it. I don't believe the 2016 date for one second.

Look at the size of the kids in the Alaska zoo pics. They clearly aren't recent. Also, the Alaska zoo article has 2010/07 in its URL.

Math Girl said...

Rhymes,

I swear by my Bissell little green cleaning machine. They're a bit pricy, but every grandmother and pet owner (and maybe wife) should own one. They come in different models; I would get the whirry brush, but not necessarily the heating option. After many years, the pump on mine has broken, but I continue to use it with a spray bottle. It has excellent suction and really removes the dirt instead of just masking it or spreading it around.

Tucker's Mom said...

We couldn't live without our Bissel. I just used it to clean the guest bedroom carpet after our little shit Bichon peed on it!

Formerly Duped said...

OT: Speaking of which, who can recommend a small powerful vacuum , reasonably priced ( sadly no coupon) for stairs, cushions, curtains, car etc? My big vac is just too balky to drag around.I would love a Bissel but they are expensive.

Tucker's Mom said...

I was thinking tonight that I hope that Kate's sheep was able to order something at Fig & Olive, since Kate didn't get back to her. I got to wondering because we had cod in parchment tonight, which was delish!

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 7
OT: Speaking of which, who can recommend a small powerful vacuum , reasonably priced ( sadly no coupon) for stairs, cushions, curtains, car etc? My big vac is just too balky to drag around.I would love a Bissel but they are expensive.
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I recommend my Shark Lift Away. It is the best vacuum I've ever owned.
I got mine when it went on sale at Costco.

fade2black said...

I swear by my Bissell little green cleaning machine.
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Oh yes! I had a Bissell Spot-Bot For Pets that was worth its weight in gold. I used it often when my daughter's spoiled shithuahua lived with me for a couple of years. When the dog went with her, I sent the Spot-Bot with my blessings. That's been a few years and, as far as I know, it's still working its magic.

Somewhere In Time said...

I recommend my Shark Lift Away. It is the best vacuum I've ever owned.
I got mine when it went on sale at Costco.

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Did you use a coupon, or doesn't Costco accept them? I've never done the Costco thing, I know...I live in the Stone Age! Maybe one of these days!

Tucker's Mom said...

No coupons at Costco!

Somewhere In Time said...

I looked for articles on Kate and the first one I found had 2009/05 in the URL, and refers to "Kate's husband, Jon", but also has a date of Mar 24, 2016 on it. I don't believe the 2016 date for one second.

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Perhaps they reconciled!

Tucker's Mom, why was the Bichon in the guest room? Did you deliver room service, and is the dog a good tipper?

I really wish Auntie would surface! Is there a lead investigator assigned to conduct a search and rescue under the veranda?

Tucker's Mom said...

Tucker's Mom, why was the Bichon in the guest room? Did you deliver room service, and is the dog a good tipper?

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He wandered in there after me. But yes ,he is so spoiled and a terrible tipper!
Well, I take that back. Him snuggling with me at night is all I need.

Jeanne said...

These bathroom bills are job bills. You need to take everyone's blood and test it for chromosomes. Then you need to issue bathroom ID cards. Then you need to position people at the doors to bathrooms to check cards.

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous. Why are they so obsessed with other people's genitals? And sex lives? It's sick.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


These bathroom bills are job bills. You need to take everyone's blood and test it for chromosomes. Then you need to issue bathroom ID cards. Then you need to position people at the doors to bathrooms to check cards.

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous



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It's insane. I would think even people who are admittedly uncomfortable with the transgender population think this is insane.

They have no research to show there is any risk to others when a transgendered person goes into a restroom of their new sex. That's what a find the most insane, even besides the sad point that in 2016 they still can't just let the transgender population alone and mind their own business. It's like they dreamt up this fantasy risk and are legislating against it. It's bizarre.

Even assuming there was a risk, why don't you be a responsible adult and go into the restroom with your child? That makes more sense. It seems to me you might as well also be afraid of anyone with a criminal history using a public restroom, but no one seems to have a problem with that. And I still don't know how they intend to enforce this. What's next, transgenders will have to wear a scarlet T?

JoyinVirginia said...

Formerly Duped, I recently got a Euroflex Monster hand/stick vacuum from QVC! Rarely order things from QVC, just happened to see this and got it. Light weight, small, comes with a tote bag everything fits into, does have a cord. Easy to empty,.great for vacuuming steps and crevices, Love it!

Tucker's Mom said...

Emily C and Elvis are tying to coax Kate out of her hidey hole by tweeting about her birthday.
Poor Elvis. If he showed up at the compound, Kate would call the cops.

Tucker's Mom said...


They have no research to show there is any risk to others when a transgendered person goes into a restroom of their new sex.
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You know what scares the crap out of me? Josh Duggar bathing his little girls, or changing them or dressing them.
smdh

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

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You know what scares the crap out of me? Josh Duggar bathing his little girls, or changing them or dressing them.
smdh



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And THAT, there is research on. Some of the best psychologists in the country have dedicated their work to the rate of recidivism for sexual offenders. By no means is there any statistics that promise that people who offend when they are Josh's age never offend again.

Josh needs a full evaluation from one of them, and to be subjected to the various industry standard psychologist tests given to other child molesters seeking to reenter society, before he should be allowed unmonitored around his children.

Somewhere In Time said...


Emily Creighton ‏@EmCr68
@Kateplusmy8 how is it March 25th already?!? Hmnnn.... If I recall someone has a birthday coming up!! 💖🎂🍾

DHspncElvis ‏@HspncElvis
@Mydmaxx @EmCr68 We should all show up at her house and have a party in her honor. @Kateplusmy8 will be 29, right? :)🍷

Denise ‏@Mydmaxx
@HspncElvis @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 Sounds good &
We can party on the new deck & watch the sunset!

They are desperate to drag her out! LOL! Let's see if it works! Emily, when we've been on the Gregorian Calendar since the 16th century (I think that's correct), as such, time marches forward. That's the reason it is nearly March 28!

Doesn't Denise live in Florida? She can pick up Milo along the way to Kate's house!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#19), that's where the hypocrisy becomes staggering. Ma Duggar making judgments about a group of people she's never encountered.
Making them out to be boogeymen and boogeywomen --
evil, lecherous perverts looking to prey on innocent children to satisfy their disgusting, confused lust. Have you had a conversation with one transgender person, Michelle? Even one?

But now the world knows she raised a son who not only inappropriately touched teenage girls, but one as young as 5. Repeatedly. Oh, and did we mention they were his SISTERS? That kind of perversion needs some hard-core intervention -- not just sending a kid off to do some hammer some nails. She and Pa Duggar not only failed Josh by not getting him intensive therapy by a trained professional, they failed the sisters he molested, the unnamed visitor he molested, and the entire family who had to live with the secret all these years. What miserable parents. But TLC is letting them slink back on screen, grinning like chimps, collecting paychecks, and acting like nothing ever happened.

Tucker's Mom said...

But now the world knows she raised a son who not only inappropriately touched teenage girls, but one as young as 5. Repeatedly. Oh, and did we mention they were his SISTERS? That kind of perversion needs some hard-core intervention -- not just sending a kid off to do some hammer some nails. She and Pa Duggar not only failed Josh by not getting him intensive therapy by a trained professional, they failed the sisters he molested, the unnamed visitor he molested, and the entire family who had to live with the secret all these years. What miserable parents. But TLC is letting them slink back on screen, grinning like chimps, collecting paychecks, and acting like nothing ever happened.
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Amen x 1000!

fidosmommy said...

I don't believe for one nanosecond that any Duggar male has ever changed any child's diaper, cleaned up any child after toileting, bathed or even helped dress any of his sisters and daughters. That's girls work.

I am convinced Josh had done none of the above because with what, 8 siblings growing up at his elbows, he was still "curious" at the age of 15. If he had been around diapers, baths and dressing duty, he would have seen all there was to see by then, even by accident.

So, I don't think it was ever on his radar as a father to take on this woman's work. It's part of their purity code for men to not view the body of females of any age. ("Nike!") I think if Anna was gone and left the kids at home with Dad, at least one Mom, one Grandma or one older sister came over to cook, feed and wipe bottoms. Not a brother, a sister.

jamezvader1194 said...

FlimsyFlamsy It also makes me wonder what goes on in the minds of the people in charge of TLC.What made them think that people were going to forgive both Josh and his parents for hiding his dark secrets and hypocrisy?It just amazes me how they were willing to get rid of Honey boo boo as soon as they found out about the pedo boyfriend but are willing to bring the duggars back.It makes me wonder if some of these reality stars TLC has,do have some dirt on TLC.Remember the editor for JandK8 turned out to have child porn?With shows like Toddlers and tiaras(thank God its gone),it does make 1 wonder.

Somewhere In Time said...

Poor Elvis. If he showed up at the compound, Kate would call the cops.

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I thought that Kate met Elvis and kind of liked him. She has often tweet-teased him and called him Mr. San Diego. I just want to see her reaction if Abner and Gladys Kravitz show up!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

FlimsyFlamsy It also makes me wonder what goes on in the minds of the people in charge of TLC.

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They have minds? I thought their heads were stuffed with nothing but dollar bills, and lots of them

They are taking a gamble on people forgiving and forgetting, and while I think it's risky, they just may win. Never mind the hypocrisy. The rubber-necking and following a train wreck is what they are banking on. This is the entertainment industry, and for TLC, morals/ethics and concern for minor kids have nothing to do with it, as much as decent folks think that it should.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Thank you so much to all who made suggestions for cleaning my upholstery. All are much appreciated. I will let you know how successful I am.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: two of the final four teams in NCAA division 1 basketball tournament will be Atlantic Coast Conference. Sunday Virginia will play Syracuse, and North Carolina will play Notre Dame. All four ACC teams. Great games tonight!

Tucker's Mom said...

They are taking a gamble on people forgiving and forgetting, and while I think it's risky, they just may win. Never mind the hypocrisy. The rubber-necking and following a train wreck is what they are banking on.
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I believe TLC banks on these long-running reality child exploitation shows to retain a certain % of dedicated viewers/fans/sheep.
It would be interesting to see data regarding just who makes up the audience who tune into Kate and the Duggars-both well past their expiration date, but still holding +/- 1 M viewers per show.
My guess is that a large majority are long-time viewers who have been "hooked" onto the kids, not the parents, and feel like they know them like their own family and are curious to see them growing up and changing.
See, that's the gold mine, the "sure thing", that TLC has in these shows. Kate doesn't change (not really, in a way that zebras can't change their stripes), JimBoob and Vag Canon never change (unless you consider "the change"), but children change monthly, weekly and almost daily.
That's decades worth of fodder. Take the kids away, the they've got nothing.

Tucker's Mom said...

It just amazes me how they were willing to get rid of Honey boo boo as soon as they found out about the pedo boyfriend but are willing to bring the duggars back
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I've never followed HBB and don't know what numbers the show brought in. Maybe they were trending downward?
Maybe June and crew were getting greedy, or demanding and the scandal was the perfect foil to cut ties. In addition, to be truthful if perhaps not very kinds, HBB's "cutie patootie" days were already in her rear-view mirror. She was turning into a rolly-polly, not cute, ill-mannered young girl, and that's a huge turn off.
June should have issued HBB a prison plate and given her tiny scoops of food, like Kate does with her kids.
But yes, it's unfair and June has a point. June, I believe, had a relationship with a pedophile and brought the reprobate around HBB. Then, she lied about it, and she's a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad liar.
The whole family turned on itself and imploded. TLC then washed their hands of all of them, which was smart.
I do feel a tad bad for June, because she was hooked on the money, thought the gravy train would be around for many more years, and is one wrestling match with a little person away from Octomom.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jamezvader1194 (#25), I believe that HBB was also dropped no only because the child was outgrowing her cute and sassy little girl stage, but, bluntly, because June is fat. Let's face it,
our looks and fitness-obsessed culture has become even worse since selfies and Instagram took off.
I find it depressing and shallow, but there you have it. TLC only likes fat if it's 600 pounds,
and you can build a whole series around it.

So given a choice between the telegenic Duggars, with their shiny smiles and trim figures and bible quoting, and the HBB clan, who are overweight and
disheveled and fond of passing gas on camera, TLC was bound to pick the gang who could get
themselves on People magazine every couple of months. And I still say Josh will return to
the show, complete with a People redemption
cover, somewhere down the line.

Formerly Duped said...

Thanks for the small vacuum ideas, ladies! I trust your reviews more than the ones on Amazon! I will probably buy one next month. This has been a month of 'unexpected' bills like safe deposit box, car excise tax, car registration, broken this and that- well, you all get it so...the dog is shedding, the car has winter sand and salt and mud, and the house, oy!

Not who you would expect said...

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous. Why are they so obsessed with other people's genitals? And sex lives? It's sick

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These people found their voice after the homosexual and gender confused starting shouting from the roof tops about their sexuality rights and where they want to pee! Unlike the heterosexuals, we don't walk into a room and announce our sexual prefences or dress like the gender we are not.

No one will convince me otherwise that having sex with the same gender or saying you were born with the wrong gender is anything but perversion.

Vagina's in one bathroom and locker room, penis's in another. Proclivities come with consequences.

Not who you would expect

Jamesvader1194 said...

Thanks for the answers everyone.@Tucker's mom Im not entirely sure but IIRC Honey boo boo's ratings were better then Kate because when she was getting 2 million views.There was a Honey boo boo rerun that actually beat 1 of Kate's newer episodes that just aired in ratings.Im surprised that Kate specials had 2 million views when they started.Comparing that to now,she lost over 1 million viewers

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

These people found their voice after the homosexual and gender confused starting shouting from the roof tops about their sexuality rights and where they want to pee! Unlike the heterosexuals, we don't walk into a room and announce our sexual prefences or dress like the gender we are not.


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Well, you're assuming it's just confusion instead of just, as the science suggests, biological, nature, hormonal. I think most people have left behind the days where we honestly think that such a large population of LGBT folks, many of them who have lived that way for decades are just perpetually "confused."

I know someone who used to be a woman and is now a man. I never knew them when they were a woman. I see them almost every day, and had they not told me, I would never have known. They don't really talk about it, they don't shout it from the roof tops or make demands, they are not overly invested in any of the rights groups. This is my experience with most people who are not in traditionally male-female relationships. It's really not something they make a big deal out of. Every group has their lobbyist just like the fundamentalists have their vocal lobbyists. Most people however just live their lives without an agenda.

This is the thing, if he walked into the women's room with me, I would be extremely uncomfortable. He's a man to me, I see him as a man. He uses the men's room, I assume a stall, and I've never heard any complaints from any of the men. Assuming no one else can tell his original gender, don't you think most women or girls would be much more upset to see a man with a beard waltz into the women's room, than men and boys would be to see him in the men's room? It just makes sense. And can you see how someone who truly looks like a man being uncomfortable about making women upset by being forced to go into their restroom?

Unless there is evidence of anything inappropriate happening, which there's not, this really stinks of homophobia and trying subtly to convince the general public that homosexuals are something to fear because they are all child molesters and rapists. Ma Duggar damn well knows she has no evidence to back up her alarmist claims but that doesn't matter to her. We as a society, are better than that. Laws based around fear should be based around scientific fear. Not speculative.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 32
Jamezvader1194 (#25), I believe that HBB was also dropped no only because the child was outgrowing her cute and sassy little girl stage, but, bluntly, because June is fat. Let's face it,
our looks and fitness-obsessed culture has become even worse since selfies and Instagram took off.
I find it depressing and shallow, but there you have it. TLC only likes fat if it's 600 pounds,
and you can build a whole series around it.
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I think TLC embraced the crude, corpulent and flatulent family. The family's sloth and gluttony were constantly on display, and America embraced the "hicks" as their own.
Why TLC canceled the show and actually meant it, I'm not sure, but I think it was the titular "star" that became the rub in the ointment.
June's pedophile scandal only hastened the inevitable, imo.

I feel most sorry for HBB. She's a washed-up child start before she reached double digits, and unlike Shirley Temple, I think her well-into-the-future prospects are quite poor. Perhaps she will become the Ambassador to Bubba's Road Kill BBQ & Laundromat.

Susie Cincinnati said...

I love sheeple!

Ellie ‏@keepermom72 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 family of 10 looking for new DW. Need 1 that cleans 1st time! Any recommendations? <3 the cookbook! Perfect for lrg fam!

DW? Domesticated Wife? Ditsy Wench? Dedicated Wimp?

Dishwasher that cleans the first time? I don't know about anyone here, but how many times do you run the same dishes through the dishwasher?

I really do hope the Fig and Olive fan still isn't sitting there waiting for Kate, unable to decide what to order!

I know that we chat among ourselves here, asking for suggestions on whatever, but at least those here can share what works for them (and the questions aren't silly). The sheeple seem to think that Kate has the answers, but alas, she doesn't respond unless she needs something or wants to sell something (cookbook) or to hawk her show. And the fans just don't get it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susie Cincinnati (#37), yes, the sheeple are always good for a smile!

Wait -- this person has a family of 10? Does that mean she also has 8 children? How does she support them without a reality show?

Tucker's Mom said...

So given a choice between the telegenic Duggars, with their shiny smiles and trim figures and bible quoting, and the HBB clan, who are overweight and
disheveled and fond of passing gas on camera, TLC was bound to pick the gang who could get
themselves on People magazine every couple of months. And I still say Josh will return to
the show, complete with a People redemption
cover, somewhere down the line.
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Yes! The kids are generally wholesome and easy on the eyes, but Jessa is the ingenue, and the babies are like crack for the fans.

Over And Out said...

Hey, Kate! Free food at your favorite restaurant. You love them! You love freebies. Go for it!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/free-burrito-giveaways-world-wont-131047860.html

Tucker's Mom said...

And can you see how someone who truly looks like a man being uncomfortable about making women upset by being forced to go into their restroom?
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I imagine that a trans man to woman feels as I would going into a men's room: in the wrong place and even vulnerable and frightened.

Tucker's Mom said...

Ma Duggar damn well knows she has no evidence to back up her alarmist claims but that doesn't matter to her.
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Moreover, she will never care to avail herself of secular knowledge based in academic rigor and supported by scientific data. People like the Duggars have no sense of oneness with the outside world, and concern themselves on with themselves.
This level of profound ignorance, judgment and apathy has led to, and will lead to more LGBT people suffering and dying.
Tragedies and atrocities like that of Matthew Shepard would make not one neuron fire in that part of her brain that feels empathy.
The new and improved TLC show should be called, "Counting On: The Breeding Of Sociopaths".

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Moreover, she will never care to avail herself of secular knowledge based in academic rigor and supported by scientific data. People like the Duggars have no sense of oneness with the outside world, and concern themselves on with themselves.


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That's the problem with their minimalist education. This is not typical home schooling which I've known to be rigorous, regulated, adequate and in some cases even better than regular school. This is antiquate hocus pocus based on literal interpretations of the Bible and a rejection of science. This in turn breeds ignorant young adults who are put out into the world and have used their ignorance to hurt others.

I have no problem with the religious, but most religious I know allow religion and science/data/research to go hand in hand. And that includes research that speaks to sexuality.

Tucker's Mom said...

Susie Cincinnati said... 37
I love sheeple!

Ellie ‏@keepermom72 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 family of 10 looking for new DW. Need 1 that cleans 1st time! Any recommendations? <3 the cookbook! Perfect for lrg fam!

DW? Domesticated Wife? Ditsy Wench? Dedicated Wimp?

Dishwasher that cleans the first time? I don't know about anyone here, but how many times do you run the same dishes through the dishwasher?

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Sad that a family of 10 can't afford a new DW, while Kate lives in the lap of luxury, especially her 6-figure kitchen redo.
It's sad that there are people out there who don't have Kate's number. She wouldn't lift a finger if it didn't benefit her, or there was zero downside or loss to her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Over And Out said... 40
Hey, Kate! Free food at your favorite restaurant. You love them! You love freebies. Go for it!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/free-burrito-giveaways-world-wont-131047860.html
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Yum! Free burrito with a side of norivirus ;-)
I kid- I'm not afraid to eat there, but just don't find myself seeking it out. We've got a small local chain that does the same thing even better.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is the gorgeous Aydian Dowling, who was born a female and now is male.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/11081073_408477309276838_6942414306724580774_n.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780&strip=all

You can't tell me anyone could tell that unless they knew.

If he starts walking into women's restrooms, women are going to be calling the cops. This law causes more problems than it seeks to prevent. So stupid.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 46
This is the gorgeous Aydian Dowling, who was born a female and now is male.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/11081073_408477309276838_6942414306724580774_n.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780&strip=all

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Um, I'd steal a second glance ;-)

Anninnymouse said...

fidosmommy said... 53

I know the Duggars are also child exploiters, but TLC isn't really digging for drama with them. Not a screech, not a single object thrown at a sibling on
any episode, not an embarrassing set-up to be found.

They are quiet, polite and cooperative, and that goes for parents as well as children of literally every age. Why no faux drama there? Who decided this?
The Duggars, the producers/directors or TLC? Wouldn't sibling skirmishes draw an even bigger audience? They could probably cook up plenty of doozeys what with all those kids sharing limited bedroom square footage and bathrooms. You know, too many people in too small a space....

These are basically rhetorical questions, I know. But I am interested.
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I always thought it was because of two main things. The Duggars were savvy enough to dictate how their family would be storylined and characterized and TLC didn't want to piss off the Christian Right.

The Duggar kids might also be just plain better behaved in that slick, manners, no screeching and hitting sort of way.

Kaya said...

This is not typical home schooling which I've known to be rigorous, regulated, adequate and in some cases even better than regular school.
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It's pretty darn typical of evangelical home schooling.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is not typical home schooling which I've known to be rigorous, regulated, adequate and in some cases even better than regular school.
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It's pretty darn typical of evangelical home schooling.

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I think it depends on your state and how strict they are about what you have to teach at home.

Here in CA it's hard to get away with fudging it on homeschooling, no matter what your religion is. Michelle Duggar's program would never pass muster. In fact for a brief time CA even required parents to have teaching credentials to teach their kids--you can't get much more strict than that! While that's no longer required you still have to meet a host of other requirements so dense that now there are home school "schools" where home school parents team up on the material. It's not realistic for any one parent to do it all anymore. If I'm not mistaken, Pioneer Woman's kids went to a home school "school." The oldest got into a very competitive college, so it seems to have worked out fine for them. I have no problem with home schooling. There is more than one way to get an education. I only object when the education is sub-par, but you could get a sub-par education at a regular school too.

All that said, it wouldn't surprise me if Michelle were fudging her compliance with Arkansas home school laws.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

If he starts walking into women's restrooms, women are going to be calling the cops. This law causes more problems than it seeks to prevent. So stupid.

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On the other hand, if a male turned female is in a ladies room, and a woman checks under the stall to see if it is vacant, and there is a guy/female who still has his male parts and is standing facing the toilet, would she call the cops, or at least think it's incredibly weird? Or if he/she still has his male organ, does he sit down to pee? I don't know...just asking.

Where is Auntie? She would have something wise to say about that!

Tucker's Mom said...

I always thought it was because of two main things. The Duggars were savvy enough to dictate how their family would be storylined and characterized and TLC didn't want to piss off the Christian Right.

The Duggar kids might also be just plain better behaved in that slick, manners, no screeching and hitting sort of way.
March 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM

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It's all about what we don't see, isn't it? Those kids are all blanket trained and hit with switches or slapped. Unless the kids are all lobotomized, they act up, I'm sure of it.
Maybe they don't spit, hit, kick and shove like the Gosselins, but the preternaturally happy kids image they portray is just more smoke and mirrors.
It's called retakes, direction and editing.

Kaya said...

Here in CA it's hard to get away with fudging it on homeschooling, no matter what your religion is. Michelle Duggar's program would never pass muster.

I live in California. And it is not true that home schooling is strongly regulated here. The HSLDA, which is a home school advocacy network, delineates CA as a low-regulation state. (https://hslda.org/laws/) The Gothard curriculum absolutely can be used here and no doubt is, along with myriad other fundie curricula that are contrary to science and basic historical fact.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


On the other hand, if a male turned female is in a ladies room, and a woman checks under the stall to see if it is vacant, and there is a guy/female who still has his male parts and is standing facing the toilet, would she call the cops, or at least think it's incredibly weird? Or if he/she still has his male organ, does he sit down to pee? I don't know...just asking.

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Do people look under the stalls like that? That seems kind of speculative. When you look under the stalls if you must, you're just looking for a pair of legs in there. You don't look so far under that you can see the toilet or what is happening. Someone could be standing up like that because they're putting a tampon in. The door is too low to know much more than that.

I still think given how much many trans look convincingly like the gender they identify with, it would be more upsetting to see a trans woman in the men's restroom and so forth.

But the point being is they want to do it because they think people are going to get molested in the restroom! That's absurd.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A state that recently required any parent home schooling have a TEACHING LICENSE, is not, any which way you slice it, loose about home schooling. CA has strict regulations, including requiring anyone homeschooling to register as a private school, requiring an administrator to ensure that all home schooling teachers are appropriately skilled to teach, and numerous academic and health compliance documents must be filed with the state of CA on a regular basis. Hardly laissez faire. Living in CA, I'm surprised you conveniently didn't mention those strict requirements. I haven't the foggiest idea why some organizations consider CA not very strict, given all the strict requirements can be found right there in the code.

Your original point that fundamentalists suck at homeschooling I completely disagree with. I won't generalize like that as you have so unfairly done. Some of the smartest kids are know are quite religious home schooled kids.

Your generalization about fundamentalists is flat out unfair and untrue, and simplifies your argument. I'm sure some fundies suck at teaching their kids. The Duggars are one of them. Others do a fine job teaching their children. On the flip side you could send your kid to one of the broken public schools in CA, and that's really not much better.

I have no clue why you always want to pick one small point at me when it seems like we're on the same page. I think we both agree the Duggars terrible home schooling has led to pure ignorance. Let's leave other families out of it. Why take it to another level?

Tucker's Mom said...

Your generalization about fundamentalists is flat out unfair and untrue, and simplifies your argument. I'm sure some fundies suck at teaching their kids. The Duggars are one of them. Others do a fine job teaching their children. On the flip side you could send your kid to one of the broken public schools in CA, and that's really not much better.
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I think there are Fundamentalist families who ascribe to Gothard's homeschooling and then there's most everyone else.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think there are Fundamentalist families who ascribe to Gothard's homeschooling and then there's most everyone else.

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Pretty much.

It's not fair to equate Gothard principles with fundies. It's reckless and untrue. It's libel, really.

Math Girl said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 54



Do people look under the stalls like that? That seems kind of speculative. When you look under the stalls if you must, you're just looking for a pair of legs in there. You don't look so far under that you can see the toilet or what is happening. Someone could be standing up like that because they're putting a tampon in. The door is too low to know much more than that.
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Admin, I agree completely. Peeking peeks under the stall door to see how someone is standing/sitting, or what kind of shoes they're wearing, or how many people are in the stall, or anything else except "occupied/unoccupied" is definitely creepy.

Why would you be looking for any reason - if you want to find out if a stall is occupied, just try the door (gently). If it is locked, try another stall. If someone is in there but hasn't locked it (maybe it's broken?), they will usually push back on it or say something.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I always thought it was because of two main things. The Duggars were savvy enough to dictate how their family would be storylined and characterized and TLC didn't want to piss off the Christian Right.


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I want to weigh in that I do think the Duggars have been much more savvy with TLC. I think Matt Roloff was the same. Both families have a lot of prior experience with business deals and negotiations. Both families had worked for themselves before, and had employees before, and had a basic understanding of the ins and outs of a good business deal. Jon and Kate worked punching in jobs for a few years then popped out 8 kids. They were ripe for the taking.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

I have no clue why you always want to pick one small point at me when it seems like we're on the same page. I think we both agree the Duggars terrible home schooling has led to pure ignorance. Let's leave other families out of it. Why take it to another level?

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That's easy! Because if it were taken to the another level, there would be so much more for which a poster could p&p (pull and pick) at you! I would open up a new and bigger playing field.

"Where is Auntie? She would have something wise to say about that!"

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Ah, yes, she would have fun with that one. She might say that it all depends (no pun) on who installed the toilet. Was it Mr. Commodester? Was it a lesbian or preacher potty?

Not that I've done extensive research on inserting tampons, and it's something that I would think most women do out of years and years of experience, but do women stand up facing the toilet to do this, or do most of them sit down (front facing of course)? Just one of those little pesky facts of women's habits that aren't talked about! To each her own. Kind of like is the roll of toilet tissue placed so that is unwinds from the front or underneath?

"Do people look under the stalls like that?"

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Hmmmm...I'll have to ponder over that one. Yes, I think maybe some do...rather than knock on the door (to check for vacancy), therefore interrupting the natural bodily function, or inserting the tampon.

I need a drink. The night is still young.

Where is Mrs. Malaprop? I heard a good one today and thought about Dr. M.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Whatever the duggars do,they do seem to draw more viewers then Kate.I wonder why she doesn't do what they do and take the religious route.Though the duggars have cute babies which do draw some peoples eyes.Im not saying the Gosselin kids aren't cute but they don't have the same charm they had when they were babies.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Admin, I agree completely. Peeking peeks under the stall door to see how someone is standing/sitting, or what kind of shoes they're wearing, or how many people are in the stall, or anything else except "occupied/unoccupied" is definitely creepy.

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Well, you wouldn't get on the floor and stick your head under the stall door to see if it were occupied, but I have seen people stand back far enough to see if there were any feet under there!

Math Girl said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 62

Well, you wouldn't get on the floor and stick your head under the stall door to see if it were occupied, but I have seen people stand back far enough to see if there were any feet under there!
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Most of the time when I go into a public washroom (maybe 95% of the time) there are stalls that are obviously empty, and I take one of them.

The only time I've looked under one, or seen anyone look, is when there is a long lineup, all doors appear to be closed and locked, and one seems not to be "turning over". There may then be some discussion over whether a particular stall is really taken, followed by a quick glance from a distance. Or a tap or light push on the door.

Certainly anyone who has a phobia about seeing feet in unusual positions could just quit looking under stall doors. They could tap or ask or consult the other ladies or just wait it out.

The original poster that Admin was addressing sounded like Milo, peeking through a 1/4 inch gap in the shades and then complaining because their neighbor was undressing in their own bedroom with the lights on.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Happy Easter to all who celebrate!

I can just imagine TFW checking in here to read
the latest gossip about her, and finding all
these comments about bathroom etiquette. Poor Schmoopy -- upstaged by toilets.

Tucker's Mom said...

I keep thinking about the Larry Craig bathroom stall, toe-tapping scandal!

redbird said...

getting an ipad today. i have always envisioned the all the dugger kids look into the camera and say, we are the duggar kids and we are not smarter than a fifth grader. even over half of the kids are adults

redbird said...

the parents are to blame for their kids education. sad at the italian restaurant they were slaugtering the dishes names. sad

fade2black said...

Every day, I misread the title of this post as "Dick Party", then when I scroll to the bottom of the first page of comments to click on newest, #200 shouts PENIS and I giggle. Every. Single. Time. Apparently, Kate is not the only one whose maturity level is stunted at middle school level.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

The original poster that Admin was addressing sounded like Milo, peeking through a 1/4 inch gap in the shades and then complaining because their neighbor was undressing in their own bedroom with the lights on.

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Are you talking about me? I was the one who threw out the question about the stalls. I never said that this is a practice of mine, nor that I have a fetish about it. Comparing me to Milo is about as low as you can go! LOL!

There was a funny Roseanne episode, "Rear Window," in which the elderly neighbors lived as nudists and Roseanne and Dan complained about being able to see them through their window, but they couldn't give up their binoculars. She invites the new neighbors to their house to discuss the situation, and when the neighbors are reluctant to put up a hedge or pull the curtains and tell the Conners simply not to look, Roseanne flashes them, and to make a point, says, "What color are my eyes?" Some good writing on that show, but I digress.

Now excuse me, but I have to find the public bathroom in the restaurant and see if any stalls are open. It's Easter. Things are busy. And when you gotta go, you gotta go! :) To peek, or not to peek...

jolie Jacquelyn said...

All this bathroom stall talk reminds of the Seinfeld episode with Elaine begging the woman in the cubicle next to her for some toilet paper. " I haven't a square to spare" was the answer she got.

Love that show, even the reruns seen for the umpteenth time.

Tucker's Mom said...

redbird said... 66
getting an ipad today. i have always envisioned the all the dugger kids look into the camera and say, we are the duggar kids and we are not smarter than a fifth grader. even over half of the kids are adults
March 27, 2016 at 6:45 AM
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Good to hear, Redbird!
Even sadder is that the Duggars are less prepared for a totally independant life than a 5th-grader.
I was dumfounded when the 23-year old Duggar man said his fricking SISTER did his laundry. Sorry, dude, unless I'm married to you, you can wash your own gotchies.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

"Now excuse me, but I have to find the public bathroom in the restaurant and see if any stalls are open. It's Easter. Things are busy. And when you gotta go, you gotta go! :) To peek, or not to peek..."

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You mean you have to get your peeking fix in for the day, or is that peeing fix? lol!

Mel said...

I really don't understand how one would know a trans person was in the restroom with them.

And I've never had anyone peeking thru the crack to see if I was a trans, either.

Although I have had a toddler crawl underneath to join me. His mom was mortified.

Tucker's Mom said...

You mean you have to get your peeking fix in for the day, or is that peeing fix? lol!

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I don't get my fix until I "toe-tap". Wink, wink!

Andrea said...

Baby voice takes the cake. She was protesting a beer permit for a mini mart near the hospital while Josie was still in critical condition.,

It looks like TLC is listening to people's criticism about the family. The new plot line seems to be girls can do anything. I would be more interested in the older boys learning housekeeping, laundry, and cooking. There is still a gender division for chores.

It also looks like Helmet hair it trying to force his way on the camera. He was in the front during the FaceTime call from S. America. He loudly and assertively said they should pray at the airport.

Jill and Derek have a ministry blog. They post random updates but never fully say what they are doing. Derek is still taking full time Spanish classes during the day. Jill stopped taking classes because of wifely duties to her home. The only real mission work they have done is through SOS miniseries. These are short missions from a few weeks to 3 months. They do not happen on a monthly or even bimonthly basis. The missions seem to be arranged around school holidays.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Andrea (#76), Jill and Derick have asked fans to support their ministry, yet haven't quite been
forthcoming about how those dollars are spent.
Kind of like TFW passing the basket around at churches across the country, when she was closing on the mansion. I think getting people to pay her utility bills emboldened her, and she decided to see how far she could go with having fans support her financially -- long after she was living more than comfortably. I find that reprehensible.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just read the comment I posted about TFW asking for money while she was pulling in a paycheck from TLC and getting high speaking fees. I said I thought it was reprehensible. And I'm wondering, what is the sheeple's response to that behavior? Do they think it was A-OK? Do they think it's what any other parent of 8 kids would do? Would they claim that we'd do it to if we were given the opportunity?

How about TFW tearing up on Today about the bills in her purse, and then being interviewed right afterwards by Vanity Fair, saying she wanted to
go eat at Nobu? How can she not be seen as duplicitous? Or, at the very least, withholding of information when and how it suits her agenda?

PA Dutch Mom said...

I just read the comment I posted about TFW asking for money while she was pulling in a paycheck from TLC and getting high speaking fees. I said I thought it was reprehensible. And I'm wondering, what is the sheeple's response to that behavior? Do they think it was A-OK? Do they think it's what any other parent of 8 kids would do? Would they claim that we'd do it to if we were given the opportunity?

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They've ignored it, as far as I know. If that info came from Robert's book, they would say that it just isn't true because the book was stolen and modified. That's their answer for nearly everything negative that comes out about her. I do know, however, that it is one hundred percent true. She was in the process of settling on the new million-plus house and still crying poor at her speaking engagement, taking money from the duped audience. She just loved passing the basket.

About crying over the bills and wanting to eat at Nobu. I would imagine that if the fans admitted this happened, they would say that it wasn't Kate who would pay for the meal. It would be TLC, or one of her dinner guests would pick up the tab since Kate was flat broke at that point and someone would feel sorry for her and feed her. Kate certainly shouldn't have been expected to pay for her own meal!

Math Girl said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 70

The original poster that Admin was addressing sounded like Milo, peeking through a 1/4 inch gap in the shades and then complaining because their neighbor was undressing in their own bedroom with the lights on.

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Are you talking about me? I was the one who threw out the question about the stalls. I never said that this is a practice of mine, nor that I have a fetish about it. Comparing me to Milo is about as low as you can go! LOL!
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No, I didn't mean you. Admin originally quoted a drive by (without posting it in its entirety) claiming that trans people should absolutely not ever be allowed to use their washroom of choice because they might be able to see feet going in the wrong direction when they peer under the stall door and go into palpitations over it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Did TFW tweet at all today? Any word on Mrs. Bunny's candy purchases? Any Easter greetings
to her faithful followers? Any pictures of
baskets and gifts? Hello...McFly?

Jamesvader1194 said...

@flimsyFlamsy Doesn't look like it,if she doesn't tweet anything tomorrow then somethings up.I doubt TLC is filming an Easter special.When did they ever do easter specials?Im still at least hoping Jon is fighting to see the kids that don't go to see him.If i was Jon,i'd be sadden if one of my children didn't want to see me.I'd be wondering what i did wrong,what did i do to get them upset with me and heavily apologize to whatever it is i did.I certainly hope the kids that don't see him,do not hate him for whatever reason.

Over And Out said...

I haven't seen any tweet from her today, and rumor has it that a woman has been sitting at Fig & Olive in New York City for several days, refusing to order until Kate responds with menu suggestions. Negotiators have been called in and are trying to contact Kate.

Snark, of course.

Over And Out said...

When did they ever do easter specials?

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They did one about five years or so ago called "Chicks And Eggs." There may have been more, but that's the one that sticks in my head, for some reason.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT goodbye University of Virginia, it was fun while you lasted in the NCAA playoffs! Hello North Carolina, I am hoping that you end up playing Oklahoma. I want to see what happens when UNC meets Oklahoma, star Buddy Hield and his mom. When the game gets close and she gets nervous, she leaves the arena to find someplace quieter to pray for a win. This is true! He grew up in the Bahamas, very poor, now an amazing basketball talent!

jamezvader1194 said...

Oh and BTW i hope everyone had a Happy Easter.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Over And Out (#84), I read your post about the Easter episode as "that's the one that stinks
in my head." They all stink in my head.

Those cutesy holiday episodes won't work with
12-year-olds and almost 16-year-olds. No more manufactured Christmases filmed ahead of time.
The lab rats are on to her now. And as long as the Duggars keep cranking out babies, of which
TLC has 99.9% certainty, TFW will stay in the background. I've given up hope that she'll disappear entirely, but her glory days are
behind her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Oh, and I just remembered it's TFW's birthday.
Did she ignore last year's greetings, or was
that the year before when she was in TLC with
CA?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Oops -- in #88, I meant to say when TFW was in NYC shooting CA. I bet that was the best month of her life. She got the job because she was famous for having 8 kids, but for one glorious month, she didn't have to actually, you know, be with those kids.

Tucker's Mom said...

Wow, color me shocked that Kate is still Twitter silent. Something is off. No Easter posts, moreover, no "IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!!!" fussing?
I'm sure Kate monitors her Twitter feed, but there has to be a reason that she's not posting.
She can not be filming non-stop, so it's not that. Maybe TLC did another "poor Kate needs some pampering" luxury vacation?
Maybe Jon has proper visitation?
Hmm...

librarylady said...

It's too early in the morning for her to toot her own birthday horn since she's either still sleeping or filming over the extra long weekend. Which got me wondering, if the one child is at another educational institution, unless homeschooling, how is she making filming work? Because surely the school calendars aren't the same.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I still think it could be because she's doing a lot of filming and couch interviews. But I think it's beginning to become possible she tired of Twitter.

Remember we predicted this when she first joined twitter? It would be an "ohhh, shiny!" thing for her and then she'd soon lose interest. Color me surprised she has stayed this engaged with twitter for this long, but I always thought she'd lose interest someday I just didn't expect it to be so abrupt. I thought the decline would be slower. It's also bad timing. As more episodes are to come, she should stay active on social media and continue to promote. With ratings as low as they are, now is not the time to totally disengage from her fan base. Dummy.

She may still pop up at any moment and be back to her usual programming. We'll see.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#92), I think TFW stayed on Twitter longer than we suspected because she couldn't resist the quick fix of instant attention and praise. She's still that newlywed twirling at Disney World, making sure her husband was capturing it on film.

TFW's laziness has cost her so much professionally.
Even if she thought the fans were a pain in the rear, a mere few minutes a day of tweeting would keep them engaged and supportive. At the very least, she could've acknowledged Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's Day and Easter to wish
her fans a happy holiday. But she's like a child who wants what she wants when she wants it, but doesn't want to have to do any work to get it.

willowmom (now Piper's mom) said...

Zorro did make an appearance on Instagram yesterday, after "laying" a Cadbury "egg".

TLC stinks said...

Ha, ha. Zorro is still alive. Amazing.

Actually, I tend to believe she has been gradually detaching herself from Twitter for months. She'll be back. At the very least, TLC will want her to promote the show and live tweet. And as long as she's quiet, we can enjoy Milo's absence too.

I would love for Jon to get a break from the judge regarding custody. As a parent, he must be concerned about her taking them out of school for filming. That is something he can prove and especially telling would be how the absences affect their grades. IMO, the school has been too lenient with the absences over the years. Even if she's filming at home, that is time taken away from their schoolwork. Would not be surprised some are tutored, which is fine, but maybe not necessary if those kids attended class like their peers.

localyocul said...

It's just extremely interesting to me that she stopped abruptly at the same time Milo did, right after the Jon articles. Either she has just tired of it or, a judge or a therapist had her and any "socks" cut it out IMO

Jamesvader1194 said...

@TLC stinks Im certain if TLC didn't keep her or does kick her(i still hold on to that hope even if some have given it up)she'd go dark and may as well delete the account.I also feel Milo would follow as well and delete her account.All the twitter haters would be long gone and her fans will move on to other things or find the next celebrity they love.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#95), and in some ways I think it's even worse when TLC is filming at the house. For every few minutes of footage we see, the crew was there for hours. I don't care how much the kids love the crew -- their house should be their sanctuary, and not filled with cameras, lights, microphones and people. The crew members aren't playmates. They're there to do a job. It wouldn't be surprising if the kids couldn't focus on homework and/or other school projects while filming is going on. Let's face it -- when TLC is there, their home is a production set.

Formerly Duped said...

willowmom (now Piper's mom) said... 94

Zorro did make an appearance on Instagram yesterday, after "laying" a Cadbury "egg".
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Yikes, I hope it was one of the kids who made that post! I forgot about that Instagram.

Lanc Native said...

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Opponents of a new North Carolina law blocking local governments from passing anti-discrimination rules and requiring transgender students to use bathrooms assigned to their biological sex wasted little time challenging the measure, filing a federal lawsuit Monday morning.

Two transgender people, a law school professor and civil liberties groups filed the lawsuit Monday morning. They want the new law to be declared unconstitutional. They also want to prevent its enforcement.

The American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and Equality North Carolina scheduled a Monday news conference in Raleigh to discuss the lawsuit.


The law was approved last week by the legislature and signed by Republican Gov. Pat McCrory. GOP lawmakers wanted to overturn an impending Charlotte ordinance that allowed transgender people to use the restroom aligned with their gender identity. But the new law also prevents all cities and counties from extending protections covering sexual orientation and gender identity at restaurants, hotels and stores.

Corporations have criticized the law, but McCrory and allies are defending it.

The Charlotte ordinance would have enabled transgender people to legally use restrooms aligned with their gender identity, and would have provided broad protections against discrimination in public accommodations in the state's largest city.

North Carolina is the first state to require public school and university students to use only those bathrooms that match their birth certificates, according to the National Conference on State Legislatures.

Advocates for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender rights say state legislators demonized them with bogus claims about bathroom risks. Supporters say the new law protects all people from having to share bathrooms with people who make them feel unsafe.

Tucker's Mom said...

Lanc Native said... 100
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Opponents of a new North Carolina law blocking local governments from passing anti-discrimination rules and requiring transgender students to use bathrooms assigned to their biological sex wasted little time challenging the measure, filing a federal lawsuit Monday morning.

Two transgender people, a law school professor and civil liberties groups filed the lawsuit Monday morning. They want the new law to be declared unconstitutional. They also want to prevent its enforcement.
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I hope they win and put a stop to this nonsense. LGBT people are indeed being demonized and made out to be perverts and degenerates.

Where's Kimmie and her Amazing Jumper?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


North Carolina is the first state to require public school and university students to use only those bathrooms that match their birth certificates, according to the National Conference on State Legislatures.

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Does this mean I'll have to carry and present my birth certificate every time I pee in North Carolina! I mean who is to say I wasn't born a man? Yipe. Maybe I could keep a copy in my crocks.

So glad to hear the governor in Georgia standing up for equal rights and vetoing a simile discriminatory bill! Good for him.

Lanc Native said...

Does this mean I'll have to carry and present my birth certificate every time I pee in North Carolina!

((((

So, don't pee in North Carolina. Hold it until you cross the border, or just wear a diaper or Depends, like Lisa Nowak allegedly did when she set out to make a 900-mile trip from Houston to Orlando in that love triangle case.

localyocul said...

I was going to take our dog to our OBX vacation this year. She's a girl, but she humps the Lion King stuffed animal she has, so she is confused. Does this mean she can't pee in public? Help.

Lanc Native said...

the account.I also feel Milo would follow as well and delete her account.All the twitter haters would be long gone and her fans will move on to other things or find the next celebrity they love.

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Most of the fans seem to have defected, except for a few of them who should up periodically to make defamatory and cruel comments to one or more of the non-fans. They seem to need that fix in order to feel good. They pop up and then disappear until the next time the spirit moves them.

The haters seem to be keeping the TL alive, and most fans aren't even taking the bait. It seems that some of the sheeple have enough sense not to join the bantering on Kate's Kindergarten tweet playground (like Elvis) and most of them just stick to their own TLs to amuse themselves.

Tucker's Mom said...

Does this mean I'll have to carry and present my birth certificate every time I pee in North Carolina! I mean who is to say I wasn't born a man? Yipe. Maybe I could keep a copy in my crocks.
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Seriously now! Who exactly is policing the restrooms? Will the public be making citizen arrests? Go running after a trans person, blowing a whistle?

Jane said...

LOL localyocul!!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#106), "citizen's arrest" always reminds me of Gomer Pyle nabbing Barney Fife.
Redbird, I'm sure you thought of it, too! And
Gomer shouts it in this funny, sing-song way: "Citizen's ah-RAY-ust! Citizen's ah-RAY-ust!"

Dmasy said...

Flimsy, I can hear Gomer shouting those words. Classic episode.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sharon C. Bernath ‏@QueenSharon84 1h1 hour ago
@kateplusmy8 Happy Birthday Kate!! I hope you have a wonderful day & a wonderful year?
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Or not?

Tucker's Mom said...

Gomer shouts it in this funny, sing-song way: "Citizen's ah-RAY-ust! Citizen's ah-RAY-ust!"
March 28, 2016 at 9:54 AM
Dmasy said... 109
Flimsy, I can hear Gomer shouting those words. Classic episode.
March 28, 2016 at 10:16 AM
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Me too!
I keep picturing Kimmie and her Amazing Jumper running after the perp, "Penis! Penis! Penis! Stop! You are under arrest! (blows whistle) "In the name of homophobia, I compel you to stop!"
"Huckabeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I hope they win and put a stop to this nonsense. LGBT people are indeed being demonized and made out to be perverts and degenerates.

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I agree. I almost have an easier time accepting this if it's truly about other people being uncomfortable. But they have taken it to this whole other level where they're accusing innocent people of pedophilia without any basis.

Not that this hasn't happened before but Our laws should as a rule be based on logic and reason and facts. Not on hysteria. We're better than that.

Mel said...

I wonder what kind of locker rooms Ma Duggar frequents, anyway.

I can't see her working out at the local AnyTime Fitness or wherever.

Which mean it's only bathrooms that have been her experience. And how she can identify a trans person upon sight is beyond me.

I'd really like to see some stats on how many locker room or bathroom assaults there have been by trans people. I don't recall ever hearing of any where I live.

Mel said...

"Kimmie and her Amazing Jumper"

Teehee.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I keep picturing Kimmie and her Amazing Jumper running after the perp, "Penis! Penis! Penis! Stop! You are under arrest! (blows whistle) "In the name of homophobia, I compel you to stop!"

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What part does her Obtuse Oshkosh Man play in this whole drama?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 199
You can't always tell at all. I bet Ma Duggar can't tell.

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But I bet Ma Duggar knows a penis when she sees one! ;)

Blowing In The Wind said...

Seriously now! Who exactly is policing the restrooms? Will the public be making citizen arrests? Go running after a trans person, blowing a whistle?

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Good question. Is groping involved, or do they have security scanning equipment/xray devices installed outside the public bathrooms, like those used in airports?

FYI said...

The proponents of this law say that they want to protect women and children from transgenders who were born men from using the women's facilities-thus implying that transgenders who identify as women will take advantage of women and children-is that correct?

If any person, transgender or not, wants to accost a woman or child in a ladies room, do these lawmakers really think that that person is going to obey a law that prohibits them from going into the ladies room?

If a pedophile wants to get into a ladies room, I highly doubt they're going to worry about a law that says their sex is not allowed in that room.

TLC stinks said...

Oh my. The birthday wishes are numerous on the kateplusmy8 TLC Facebook page. Of course, TLC started the ball rolling by wishing her a happy birthday. They have not kicked her to the curb yet unfortunately.

Tucker's Mom said...

What part does her Obtuse Oshkosh Man play in this whole drama?
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I imagine Overall Bibs Bob would give chase, then give up after about 7 seconds.
"You go get'em Kimmie! Praise Jesus!"

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 118
The proponents of this law say that they want to protect women and children from transgenders who were born men from using the women's facilities-thus implying that transgenders who identify as women will take advantage of women and children-is that correct?
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Yes, they are afraid trans people are just like Josh.

TLC stinks said...

I take it back. The comments were not numerous. A total of 60! Not so great, LOL.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#122), yeah, 60 comments is not exactly an avalanche of support from her fans. She's no
Sad Papaw!

jamezvader1194 said...

@tlc stinks Sometimes the facebook page is just as died as her twitter.If you scroll down more,you'll notice that TLC posted links that have nothing to do with Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 122
I take it back. The comments were not numerous. A total of 60! Not so great, LOL.
March 28, 2016 at 2:24 PM
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Mostly bots. What's really crazy is NO MILO!!!!!!!!
What's next? Kate going back to nursing? Working at McDonald's? Acting like a human being to Jon?

Over And Out said...

Mostly bots. What's really crazy is NO MILO!!!!!!!!
What's next? Kate going back to nursing? Working at McDonald's? Acting like a human being to Jon?

Or "none of the above." Is this a multiple choice question?

You would think that with hundreds of thousands of fans and followers who love her (as Gladys proclaims) her TL would have blown up by now!

Over And Out said...

I imagine Overall Bibs Bob would give chase, then give up after about 7 seconds.
"You go get'em Kimmie! Praise Jesus!"

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And pass the ammunition!

Over And Out said...

At least Baxterbear tweeted. Her day is now complete!

Baxterbear® ‏@Treekled 2h2 hours ago
Baxterbear® is #TREEKLED to wish #KateGosselin a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Bearest Wishes! @Kateplusmy8
Please #Retweet

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if 41 is a tough number for TFW. No
fancy-shmancy TLC vacay for the big milestone.
No more magazine covers and press tours. Just
a houseful of kids getting bigger and stronger
and smarter, and starting to rebel. Only
fourteen months until she's got 8 teenagers
under her roof. Tick tock...

Over In TFW's County said...

Internet has been off and on for about a week. Major outages right now in the Reading area, so if she pops on and blames no internet access, this time she's not just telling a whopper.

Our cable is also been doing funky things, and right now it's so bad we can't watch it. Joy will have to update me on DWTS!

Math Girl said...

It seems like the "no transgendered" rule would be easiest to enforce in situations like schools, where all parties are known to each other. That is precisely where it is least needed/justified. Not that I think it is needed/justified at all. But especially not there. Anyone behaving inappropriately could be called out by name.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Zorro did make an appearance on Instagram yesterday, after "laying" a Cadbury "egg".

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This almost sounds like the end of a really bad horror movie, where the family is missing for months without a trace and finally the only thing to emerge from the house is a creepy talking bird with an Instagram account. Only he knows what happened to them, and he's not saying.

Tucker's Mom said...

Over In TFW's County said... 130
Internet has been off and on for about a week. Major outages right now in the Reading area, so if she pops on and blames no internet access, this time she's not just telling a whopper.
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She's got her phone, which is practically an appendage at this point. If she gives that excuse, she's a bigger idiot than I thought.

Tucker's Mom said...

DWTS- no spoilers.
Another good night for St. Tony. Geraldo is entertaining but has to be one of the worst dancers ever on DWTS. What is it with these Fox News dudes?

Localyocul said...


This almost sounds like the end of a really bad horror movie, where the family is missing for months without a trace and finally the only thing to emerge from the house is a creepy talking bird with an Instagram account. Only he knows what happened to them, and he's not saying.

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LOL!

Over In TFW's County said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 132
Zorro did make an appearance on Instagram yesterday, after "laying" a Cadbury "egg".

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Kate lays an egg on almost everything she does, especially the stint with CC, so I guess Zorro inherited that from Kate.

Nancy said...

One can only hope that someone has finally actually told or forced her to STFU

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

One can only hope that someone has finally actually told or forced her to STFU

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Maybe Zorro told her....or forced her....to STFU. I just find it strange he's the one to show up after all this time. #conspiracytheory

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Germany had their S.S. We apparently have our P.P. The Penis Police.

There are a lot more alarming things to worry about from our own people than a couple unconventional presidential candidates. What's happening in North Carolina and Georgia is beyond the pale.

Tucker's Mom said...

Maybe Zorro told her....or forced her....to STFU. I just find it strange he's the one to show up after all this time. #conspiracytheory
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Can a judge slap an order on a bird?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It seems like the "no transgendered" rule would be easiest to enforce in situations like schools, where all parties are known to each other. That is precisely where it is least needed/justified. Not that I think it is needed/justified at all. But especially not there. Anyone behaving inappropriately could be called out by name.


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Yes, and at least for school age children bathroom breaks are usually regulated with hall passes and so forth. They're watching out for other more pressing issues in the bathroom--smoking, alcohol, bullying. They can keep watch out for the influx of child molesters too.

Oh and here's a genius thought. If a kid is truly that uncomfortable using the restroom with a trans, send THEM somewhere else. The teacher's lounge, another restroom in another location. They're the ones uncomfortable, they should have to be inconvenienced.

Also, way to hit a young adult or child when they are at their most vulnerable time. That is a very difficult time for most trans young people. Now they've got their government down their backs making it worse mortifying them about their 2 minute bathroom breaks.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Maybe Zorro told her....or forced her....to STFU. I just find it strange he's the one to show up after all this time. #conspiracytheory
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Can a judge slap an order on a bird?

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I wish that could be done. I have a rescue here who has been cursing non-stop. Some of the things coming out of his mouth would make a sailor blush.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


If any person, transgender or not, wants to accost a woman or child in a ladies room, do these lawmakers really think that that person is going to obey a law that prohibits them from going into the ladies room?

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Good point. And what about the rare restroom incident that was not perpetrated by a trans? How do we legislate against those? Background checks before you're allowed to pee?

I don't know the actual stats, but I would think most people have been able to use a variety of public restrooms throughout their lives without incident, excluding all those times I couldn't find any TP or they were out of paper towels. Of those who have ever been a victim of a crime that occurred in a restroom, somehow I doubt it was a tran who did it.

What a load of malarky this all is. I can't believe it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I hope they win and put a stop to this nonsense. LGBT people are indeed being demonized and made out to be perverts and degenerates.

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Sorry. One more comment about this! It's really struck a chord. I find it just so offensive. But I also think the discussion is terribly interesting.

I don't care if the religious don't like gay people. I don't care if Kim Davis doesn't like gay people, or if the Duggars don't like them. You can dislike and disagree with whoever you want. You don't have to agree with their choices or choose it yourself. You can even speak up about why you feel the way you do. And you can quit your job if you don't like what you're asked to do at your job.

The problem here and what is so alarming is that instead of just disliking people or a lifestyle and saying so, they are flat out making things up to achieve their goals. I.e. it's not that I just don't like gay or trans people, rather, they are dangerous and we must fear them and that's why you should enact these laws.

This is the sort of talk that prevented really high quality AIDS and HIV treatment in the 80's and discriminated against the ill. People got convinced they were so degenerate not only must they have deserved their fate, but they're not worth our time or resources to cure it. The AIDS epidemic should not have lasted as long as it did, and its decline is one of the few really amazing things a group of silly D list celebrities made a big contribution to changing the public narrative on. It was a proud time for the entertainment industry for standing up for those folks, their proudest I daresay. Any time we try to pick and choose who is more deserving of help based on one's individual morality, we are going down a very backwards path and THAT is true Nazi party doctrine right there and they don't even see it.

fidosmommy said...

Maybe Zorro finally had enough and bit Kate's twitter finger clean off.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#144), very eloquently put. Brava.

The blessing and the affliction of social media
is instant communication with the masses. You
can post the most ridiculous information as
fact, without a shred of substantiation, and
have hundreds of people cheering you on within minutes. And that support leads to more and
more daring assertions, and the cycle continues.
And as we know from our dealings with TFW fans,
any attempt to present the facts labels you a
hater.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Tucker's Mom (125)Total conspiracy here,but another belief is,maybe LOM finally had it.One of milo's last tweets before she went silent was that her cable went out and she couldn't see the last episode.She was beyond crazy those weeks when Kate's show was on.Maybe that night was the final nail in the coffin for LOM and he decided to cut the cable and the computer from her and told her to knock it off or were though.I just can't image any of her family finding her behavior normal.My mom likes Paul Mccartney and i would be scared if she had the same kinda of attraction milo has for Kate.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Flimsy, I agree. The 24/7 news cycle/instant social media discussion has been a blessing and a curse. One of the curses is the the death knell to fact checking. There's no time to fact check or question any more for fear of missing the story, getting scooped. There are a few gem news organization and reporters out there that usually get it right or are at least trying their hardest to be accurate and not rush the story if it hasn't simmered properly yet, I'm thinking of 60 Minutes, but they are the exception. As a result, it is easy for interest groups to just blurt out random misinformation like "studies show transexuals are going to molest our children in the restroom!" because by the time anyone ever gets around to fact checking it and seeing if anything actually supports that claim, the story is over and it's on to the next breaking news. It seems that public has demanded more information no matter if it's not correct, rather than less information but it's accurate.

The days of Spotlight, really working a story until you really get it down, are over. Oh, and if you haven't seen that fine film, SEE IT. It's at Redbox and will set you back a buck and a half. An homage to the end of journalism as we used to know it.

JoyinVirginia said...

Anyone watching Dancing with the Stars? No spoilers, I will only say the person who went home was no surprise.
No more basketball until Saturday final four and Monday championship. I would love to see north Carolina and Oklahoma battle it out.
Re the nc rushed law, surprising that a bunch of conservative lawmakers are stripping cities and towns in their state of local control. All this was in response to a local ordinance in the city of Charlotte nc. And technically as written a mother who takes her son into the ladies bathroom could be breaking the law. Can't mix those genders, you know.

jamezvader1194 said...

@FlimsyFlamsy Not gonna lie i had that issue years ago(heck sometimes i still do).Even for none Kate things.When something had alot of people supporting it,in my mind i thought,how could this many people be wrong?Although i had to remember there have been many moments where the majority of people have been wrong about alot of things.We see the same thing when it comes to the duggars.In TLC's minds,they think that because over 1 million people watched the duggar specials,they think that alot of people still support the duggars still.Though i believe the opposite is true.

The Twitter Titanic said...

Regarding TFW's Twitter usage... it is my belief that she was on Twitter andd communicating with Jamie long before she opened the account we see now. Remember how she was always on her phone? What made me suspicious about this was that I had opened my own account just slightly before she did, yet she seemed to already have the hang of using tweeting shorthand, while I was still trying to figure out what some of the messages were trying to say.

I don't think she is off Twitter. She is probably using the other account(s) to keep in touch with her friends and maybe yet another just for Steve,

fidosmommy said...

I don't think she is off Twitter. She is probably using the other account(s) to keep in touch with her friends and maybe yet another just for Steve,

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If that's what's happening, then good for her. It may be late in coming, but she may finally be keeping private things about her children where they belong - among family and close friends and off the more public media. Excellent. I only hope it's true.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't care if the religious don't like gay people. I don't care if Kim Davis doesn't like gay people, or if the Duggars don't like them. You can dislike and disagree with whoever you want. You don't have to agree with their choices or choose it yourself.
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I think it's more than the Kimmies of the world being right. They are being righteous in God's eyes, and feel they must take on the mantle of being Christian soldiers.
I don't think they care one bit about making a trans woman use the mens room, where she could be harmed or killed even.
You're right, admin, people like that would think that the trans people just bring on whatever attacks they encounter themselves.
Meanwhile, there's no evidence to support the assertion that trans people will use their access to public bathrooms for lewd acts.
If my daughter was alarmed by someone who looked rather manly going into the ladies room, I'd explain who trans people are, in an age-appropriate manner.
I certainly wouldn't be an alarmist. This is our evolving world today.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 147
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That's no so far-fetched, if this LOM actually exists and controls her like she says.

Tucker's Mom said...

The days of Spotlight, really working a story until you really get it down, are over. Oh, and if you haven't seen that fine film, SEE IT. It's at Redbox and will set you back a buck and a half. An homage to the end of journalism as we used to know it.

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I agree! There was a story that needed to be told, a moral imperative, really.
What I appreciated was that the reporters were reporting on FACTS that they gathered, unlike papers today that are in the business of influencing news more than reporting it.

Tucker's Mom said...

The Twitter Titanic said... 151
*****
Love the handle!
Kate could have been just texting and using abbreviations because she just plain lazy. Of course, she could have been lying about Twitter and had another account (like "sixymomma")

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 149
Anyone watching Dancing with the Stars? No spoilers, I will only say the person who went home was no surprise.
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Not at all! Eh, nice paycheck if you can get it!

Tucker's Mom said...

And technically as written a mother who takes her son into the ladies bathroom could be breaking the law. Can't mix those genders, you know.
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Good point. At what age must a parent make their opposite gender child go into a restroom alone? What if the child has disabilities? What if the child is at or past puberty age?

TLC stinks said...

Twitter Titanic, ITA. The pink iPhone was glued to her hand before her public Twitter. Twitter is now 10 years old. She was either tweeting privately then or using some other constant form of communication. And yes, I totally believe she is constantly in touch with Steve, the not-a-husband. Right now she does not want to be bothered with her silly fans because it gets her nothing. Just wait because when she needs something or promote herself, she'll be back. I believe it's not being told to STFU but simply she is filming or busy with scheming some new way to get her mug on some show. A wonderful explanation could be Jon won some ruling and the kids are more unavailable for filming.

As far as Milo, this person has been an enigma, carefully covering his/her identity for years. Would not be surprised somebody figured out who this person is and Milo went dark.

foxy said...

Joy you are right about the person who was sent home. I thought it was between him and Mischa Barton. What is with her attitude? And they keep introducing Marla Maples as the ex-wife of Donald Trump. It has been over 20 years. She really does try however. I am not sure who the contenders are quite yet but a couple of them are having so much fun and really trying that it is hard to choose.

Tucker's Mom said...

A wonderful explanation could be Jon won some ruling and the kids are more unavailable for filming.
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It would be!
Color me shocked that Kate's birthday came and went without her commenting/moaning/looking for props/bragging about her kids saying babyish things.
Then again, I think she was MIA last year, when she popped back up teasing her Mexico luxury vacation:
Follow

Kate GosselinVerified account
‏@Kateplusmy8
Had THE most wonderful birthday wkend w my kids in a sunny☀️ warm breathtakingly beautiful location!U can c r fun soon😉! #MemoriesRBestGifts

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#161) - TFW said #MemoriesRBestGifts?
Less sincere words were never typed! If ever there was someone hung up on material things, it's Katie Irene. Remember: who is she to say no?

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 161
A wonderful explanation could be Jon won some ruling and the kids are more unavailable for filming.
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It would be!
Color me shocked that Kate's birthday came and went without her commenting/moaning/looking for props/bragging about her kids saying babyish things.
Then again, I think she was MIA last year, when she popped back up teasing her Mexico luxury vacation:
Follow

Kate GosselinVerified account
‏@Kateplusmy8
Had THE most wonderful birthday wkend w my kids in a sunny☀️ warm breathtakingly beautiful location!U can c r fun soon😉! #MemoriesRBestGifts

))

Oh JEEZ I thought that was a new tweet I thought Not Again!! LOL

Mel said...

If she wasn't tweeting she was at least im'ing.

She reminds me of my 12yo granddaughter with her first phone. Glued to her hand. Talk about completely not engaged with the people right in front of you.

localyocul said...

foxy said... 160
Joy you are right about the person who was sent home. I thought it was between him and Mischa Barton. What is with her attitude?

::::

Emily Chen
‏@emoleechen
is it sad that mischa barton reminds me of kate gosselin!? @DancingABC #DWTS


Then this snark cracked me up too:

Kevin Nelson
‏@KevinNelson84
Does anyone know how many kids @Kateplusmy8 Plus 8 has? I'm PRETTY sure after watching that blind date episode but wanna confirm #kateplus8

TLC stinks said...

Kateplusmy8
Had THE most wonderful birthday wkend w my kids in a sunny☀️ warm breathtakingly beautiful location!U can c r fun soon😉! #MemoriesRBestGifts
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Tucker, New Orleans may have been a bust with the rain. No opportunity to rock that bikini this year.

Something is definitely up. She ALWAYS has something to say about her birthday. After all...she de-ages!

TLC stinks said...

From Kate Plus 8 Facebook... TLC post March 9

Kate Plus 8
March 9 at 10:21am ·
Going on Spring Break with kids this year? We know Kate has traveled with the kiddos, here are some tips for packing for your adventure! http://bit.ly/1Uf73RI

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Mel (#164), well, for years I've been saying
TFW is emotionally 12, so there's your proof!

What's interesting is that 6 more people in her house will be 12 soon. And some may surpass
her emotionally and/or intellectually, if they haven't already. I'm not being flip or rude --
just evaluating what I know about TFW from what
I've seen of her on TV, interviews and Twitter
for a decade.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#166) -- bikini..."bust"...tee hee!

Okay, maybe I'm the one who's 12!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate Plus 8
March 9 at 10:21am ·
Going on Spring Break with kids this year? We know Kate has traveled with the kiddos, here are some tips for packing for your adventure! http://bit.ly/1Uf73RI

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I know someone at TLC just wrote that content farm article about packing, but I think it's kind of funny the article is about packing tips for TODDLERS. Good grief. What relevance does that have to do with KATE, who had toddlers a decade ago? A decade, people.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#170), I hope the packing tips for toddlers included this important one: cover your kids' names on their backpacks with tape, so strangers don't recognize them. Even though they're wearing matching clothes, and are being followed by a
film crew. And you've shared their names and
and faces and even footage of them on the potty
to the entire world. But please respect their privacy!

localyocul said...

I think New Orleans was a red herring. Just one tweet? Usually if they are spotted there are quite a few tweets. Did the tweeter mention the kids? If not it might have been snark or just someone that looked like her

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 167
From Kate Plus 8 Facebook... TLC post March 9

Kate Plus 8
March 9 at 10:21am ·
Going on Spring Break with kids this year? We know Kate has traveled with the kiddos, here are some tips for packing for your adventure! http://bit.ly/1Uf73RI
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So, why didn't they enlist Kate to write this? Because her helpers actually do the packing and Kate plays "let's film a tv show"?

Tucker's Mom said...

Packing tip- Never pack enough snacks, drinks and motion sickness medication because if your kids aren't melting down and puking, there's no "drama" to film!!!

Don't forget your supply of Spankers!!!

Jamesvader1194 said...

I just checked and not one person twitted any sightings of Kate.Most of them are either happy birthday,her old hair style or comparing her to someone on DWTS.@TLC stinks i would love for the jon thing to be true but i don't want to overhype myself if it turned out not true.

Jamesvader1194 said...

See what i mean?The facebook page has posts that have nothing to do with Kate.There was another one about breakfast meals.Why doesn't TLC at least promote Kate products like her cookbook?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


So, why didn't they enlist Kate to write this? Because her helpers actually do the packing and Kate plays "let's film a tv show"?



%%%%


They should of ghost written it for her and then slapped her name on it. That might actually make sense.

Though that tip about how you should bring crap for your toddler to do while traveling.....wow, no shit Sherlock. No, you should make your toddler sit there and do nothing while you get settled in with your martini for your 5 hour flight ahead.

Tucker's Mom said...

localyocul said... 172
I think New Orleans was a red herring. Just one tweet? Usually if they are spotted there are quite a few tweets. Did the tweeter mention the kids?
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Definitely mentioned the kids. I'm not good at finding old Tweets, but it was more than someone thinking they saw a generic Barbie Kate.
Plus, I think the kids were on break and could have been available to work.

TLC stinks said...

I don't recall about any major flooding in N.O., but they do have nuisance flooding, so there is the possibility filming was cut short. Truthfully, she's not on people's radar these days anyway. TLC is definitely showing reruns of the past season at odd hours, so she's nothing more than filler.

Mel said...

Seems like she could know who TFW is...vs someone who looks like her.



Yep... Def just saw #KatePlus8 in #NewOrleans! I might have silently freaked out!


Here's her bio:
fashion blogger. tv addict. dog lover. FL girl. lipstick fanatic. watch me sundays at 11am on CW44. Snapchat + Instagram: CurlyTara

Blowing In The Wind said...

Why doesn't TLC at least promote Kate products like her cookbook?

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What is there to promote? What products? There are no shows right now, and the cookbook has been dead in the water for a long time. Nobody in their right mind would order a cookbook online when you can buy it at a discount store for a dollar.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Good point. At what age must a parent make their opposite gender child go into a restroom alone? What if the child has disabilities? What if the child is at or past puberty age?

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That's a good question. When my son was five and in Kindergarten, I would not let him go to the men's room alone. No way. He was a bit hesitant about going to the ladies room with me, but that's the way it was. I remember once when we were in the ladies' room, there was an older woman there washing her hands. I apologized profusely for having a young boy in there and she put her hand on my shoulder and said, "Honey, think nothing of it. We were all in that position at some time. You have to be so careful these days. Better safe than sorry."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

older woman there washing her hands. I apologized profusely for having a young boy in there and she put her hand on my shoulder and said, "Honey, think nothing of it. We were all in that position at some time. You have to be so careful these days. Better safe than sorry."

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It's very nice when people are patient and understanding. My belief or hope at least is that most Americans ARE understanding of restroom issues. Understanding that a parent would prefer to bring opposite gender children in the restroom and understanding that someone born one way now feels more comfortable using the restroom corresponding to their new gender and not have other people in there worry about it. The Duggars and their smear campaign do not speak for everyone.

Formerly Duped said...

I had to go into the men's restroom at a McDonald's when my son was about 6 and came down with diarrhea.His little friend summoned me. Sorry for the image, ew. But a man in there emerged, knew the situation from my son's asking his friend to get me, and told me the room was now empty and stood outside, not allowing anyone in till I helped my son and came out. ( BTW men's rooms are totally gross!!)

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 184
I had to go into the men's restroom at a McDonald's when my son was about 6 and came down with diarrhea.His little friend summoned me. Sorry for the image, ew. But a man in there emerged, knew the situation from my son's asking his friend to get me, and told me the room was now empty and stood outside, not allowing anyone in till I helped my son and came out. ( BTW men's rooms are totally gross!!)
*****
On occasion, I have availed myself of the (empty) men's room ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

RIP, Patty Duke.
Only 69.
Amazing lady.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

On occasion, I have availed myself of the (empty) men's room ;-)

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Did the Vagina Police make a citizen's arrest?

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker's Mom said... 186

RIP, Patty Duke.
Only 69.
Amazing lady.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Agree 100 %. Sad she died so young. What a sad childhood, but what a strong influential and talented lady.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 187
On occasion, I have availed myself of the (empty) men's room ;-)

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Did the Vagina Police make a citizen's arrest?
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Nope, I got away with it. Whew! I could have been in there lurking, just waiting to ogle.

Tucker's Mom said...

Leigh Shahan ‏@LEIGHSHAHAN1 7m7 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Gurrrrl Ive done let ur birthday get by me.Hope u had a gr8 day. I know it took a lot of energy 2 blow out all them candles.🎉🍰
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Guuuuuuuuurl, Kate didn't even have the decency to thank the people who did remember, so don't feel so bad.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

About 20 years ago, I went to a huge AIDS event
in L.A. with 3 female friends (our boss was receiving an award). When we went to the bathroom, the line for the MEN's room was out
the door! And they were using the ladies' room, too! We walked in and every closed stall but one was occupied by a guy -- lots of black shoes facing towards the toilet, with one lone pair of silver sandals facing away!

But the funniest part of the night was that one
of the ladies I was with was hoping to meet a guy there. The word "education" was in the event title, meaning AIDS education. But my friend thought it meant there were going to be eligible bachelor teachers there!

PA Dutch Mom said...

The days of Spotlight, really working a story until you really get it down, are over. Oh, and if you haven't seen that fine film, SEE IT. It's at Redbox and will set you back a buck and a half. An homage to the end of journalism as we used to know it.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&

I have often thought about Watergate, and what the outcome would have been if Woodward and Bernstein had jumped the gun on their reporting, as so often is done today.

PA Dutch Mom said...

And they keep introducing Marla Maples as the ex-wife of Donald Trump. It has been over 20 years. She really does try however.

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She really isn't that bad. I had expected worse, more like shades of Kate. She looks so much younger than Kate, and at least the make-up crew at DWTS hasn't put layers of pancake goop on her face trying to make her look like she has de-aged.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Maybe that night was the final nail in the coffin for LOM and he decided to cut the cable and the computer from her and told her to knock it off or were though.I just can't image any of her family finding her behavior normal.

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Maybe it *is* normal behavior for her, and for the rest of the family. It could be all of them are a bit on the strange side, if indeed there really is a family.

Tucker's Mom said...

I only bring this up because of Admin's experience at Kate's book signing, but it looks like Trump has a Rat Claws, too!

http://tinyurl.com/hx9r9xf



It would be too crazy if Trump's campaign manager actually brought his campaign down.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Tucker's Mom said... 186
RIP, Patty Duke.
Only 69.
Amazing lady.

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A ruptured intestine. Anything can happen without much warning, and so fast.

Watch Capote's autobiography, "A Christmas Memory," in which she played the lead. It's not one of her roles that's mentioned very often, but her performance is incredible.

swingsandroundabouts said...

It would be too crazy if Trump's campaign manager actually brought his campaign down.

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One can only hope.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

PA Dutch Mom (#196), yes, that "Christmas Memory"
performance by Patty Duke was marvelous.
I also loved her touching guest appearance on "Judging Amy" as a dedicated foster mom with Alzheimer's disease.

PA Dutch Mom said...

But the funniest part of the night was that one
of the ladies I was with was hoping to meet a guy there.

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In the ladies' room? ;-)

PA Dutch Mom said...

The latest on this...

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ny-gov-cuomo-bans-travel-to-north-carolina-in-184327168.html

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