Season 4 begins with the end of the school year and a trip to Florida. Also: Kate cooks a traditional Korean barbecue dinner and discusses the kids' heritage.
TLC stinks said... 194 Geez. Kate is such a liar. Jon said the twins are on social media and they are on their phones like mom. December 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM ***** Thanks. I could have sworn it was pretty much confirmed that yes, the twins are on social media. At 15, they sure should be allowed.
chefsummer #Leh said... 195 When I saw that she was grilling the Korean bbq my thought were. 1.Hope no one gets food poisoning. 2.That's Jon's idea. 3.Why is she back on tv? December 9, 2015 at 11:24 AM ******* 1. Me too! 2. Everything she does is derivative. 3. Because she'll never stop using her kids for fame, attention and money.
Seriously, how does she help them with the Family Tree object? 165
IMO, Katie abdicated responsibility for mothering those children very early on. It was her toddlers' responsibility to resolve their disagreements (her words), we've never seem her teach them anything (even as simple as tying shoes).She has ruled with threats, physical abuse and bribes. It's starting to come back and bite her on the ass. Those poor children.
What a pompous arrogant little witch. Oh, the beach, the beach, steak and seafood! Who doesn't go to the beach? Oh, and when we went to Mexico! And the complaining those kids (girls) do! ugh. And what a liar, I'm sure she's putting words in Joel's mouth (probably if he tells his dad) that he DIDN'T want to go shopping. And what's with the ring on her left ring-finger? And what? Those kids don't already have their own luggage? Spoiled and entitled. Still always looking at the camera man, speaking to whoever's behind the lense.
I think TFW might truly be terrified about the twins dating, because it is their first real step towards independence.
************ You said it! Also, when teens are dating, they tend to care more about what the boy/girlfriend thinks than their cross ol' mommy.
Seriously, can you imagine being a young man dating a Gosselin teen? I'm guessing too much Mommy in the picture, ruining the fun. I wonder if that sort of thing is why Kate left her own home so early? I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud.
It's pathetic enough to let yourself be cast as someone people "love to hate." But it's a special kind of evil when you put your child in the spotlight to assume that role. For a decade. With no end in sight.
"Fightily"? stfu Also I noticed it was a male filming the girls in their bedroom. "ugh! this is sooo exhausting!" where have we heard this before? Hannah overtakes Joel's packing. tfw's complexion is AWFUL. A bus is of course picking them up. 254,000 pieces of luggage. When she started to do the research on the resort...bahaha. ok
I remember when we were asked not to name-call the kids. Calling Kate out on her lousy parenting was fine, but we were not to discuss the children directly. Serious question: has this changed now that the kids are older?
Fidosmommy (#7), imagine being one of the twins, having grown up with the non-stop din of your 6 younger siblings, not to mention a film crew all up in your Kool-Aid at all hours of the day. And now you're almost 16, and some boy invites you to hang out at his house, where maybe there's one or two siblings, and no lights and microphones and cameras. Hmmm...where would you rather spend your Saturday?
I've mentioned this before: the Gosselin kids look Korean to us because we are not Korean. To Korean people, they would look Caucasian. It's largely in the eye of the beholder.
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The least looking Asian girls are Cara and Alexis. When you see them up close and personal, you'd never know that they were even 1/4 Asian.
Saw on TLC's facebook page that the Little Couple is coming back on Tuesday, January 5th at 9:00. So there is only 3 more episodes of Khate's nonsense??
Oh yeah, shades of her berating Jon! Mady's NOT going to take it. I foresee some ugly UGLY fights in the near future. Who am I kidding, they ARE having ugly brutal fights right now. OMG! Mady yelling in that Andrea's face? SOOO disrespectful.
Oh, and I am sure that kids at M and C's school are into al sorts of things. Often it's the richer kids who are into drugs and alcohol.
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I'm not even going to respond to that one, other than to say it's not accurate to profile a kid because he/she may attend a private school and some may have well-to-do parents. Not all kids there were born with silver spoons in their mouths and are served life on golden platters. That is not the way that it is.
There was a of called MG is a b•••• when she was six years old.
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I'll lay odds Kate behaved exactly the same way when she was 15 years old as Mady. And she has three more daughters who are taking it all in and learning.
If Kate is whining and complaining now about all the refereeing and 'playing fair' and settling arguments she has to do, just wait a year. She'll be in a strait jacket and TLC will be right there filming it all. Kate wouldn't want anyone to miss seeing how difficult her life is and why she desperately needs those vacation getaways with Steve.
The ratings are out. 955,000 viewers and a 0.37 share. Lowest numbers out of any of the specials featuring the kids. The only one lower was the "Decade of Kate" special that had 615,000 viewers.
Ratings are out. Although the show finished 17th in the top 50 original cable shows, it had less than a million viewers at 955,000. The demographic for 18-49 was .37. Interesting that the highest demographic rating was in the female 12-34 group at .48.
fidosmommy, it's discussed because it's pretty obvious Kate is going to film no matter what issues any of her children are having. She's made their issues public. They have no privacy. Unless those are haters posting comments on Facebook, the behavior was shockingly bad. IMO, Kate and the Figure 8 crew know darn well what the trigger points are. Instead of dealing with issues in private, Kate uses the behavior for drama. Kate has made her daughter look bad publicly and therefore, it is worth discussing. A normal, loving parent wants to protect their child. Proves to me those kids are nothing but a meal ticket.
Just plowing the food into her, shoveling it in and of course talking with her mouth full. Again, bragging non stop about how GREAT of a job she did with the beef.
Ratings are in! 955,000 according to Showbuzz.. Under a million already and this is just the first episode! How low will they go by the time this season ends?
Reading the FB comments, it seems like the show will be losing long-time viewers over the bratty and mouthy and overall sad behavior of the kids. Also, is it common for 11-year olds to need their stuffed animals with them? I clearly remember being in the 5th and 6th grade and my stuffed animal days were well behind me. I would have been mortified to have people see me hugging them. I was mortified to get dolls at age 7 or 8. What am I a baby????! Maybe times have changed.
Showbuzz Daily has the ratings out for the show last night and it didn't even get a million viewers. If that's what the first episode gets I can just imagine the ratings will be at rock bottom by the final one.
There's "bonus" footage of Kate grilling the Korean beef bbq, and it looks tough as shoe leather. For someone who wrote a cookbook, well, never mind...
She'll never stop being amazed at herself for figuring out how to use a grill sometime in her 30's. Because, it all fell on her shoulders. Those kids would never get a grilled meal or bbq if she didn't do it. Does Jon even have arms? How is he so unable to do anything, ANYTHING??
Tucker's Mom said... 2 chefsummer #Leh said... 195 When I saw that she was grilling the Korean bbq my thought were. 1.Hope no one gets food poisoning. 2.That's Jon's idea. 3.Why is she back on tv? December 9, 2015 at 11:24 AM ******* 1. Me too! 2. Everything she does is derivative. 3. Because she'll never stop using her kids for fame, attention and money. _ 4. Kate needs her money to keep Steve around cause he's not working or loving for free.
Pa Dutch I'm not talking about private schools or saying all kids at that school are like into things or are rich... My kid went to a school that runs the gamut from very poor to very rich and rich kids have access to the money for the drugs. There were drug dealers targeting the mainline high schools. I meant nothing against this specific school; but if you think none of them are buying booze and drugs I would say you are wrong.
Just peek into an area in yik yak around high schools and you can see what the kids, some high schoolers some just out, are yakking about. A lot of social stuff politics studying but also a lot about drugs drinking and sex
Saw on TLC's facebook page that the Little Couple is coming back on Tuesday, January 5th at 9:00. So there is only 3 more episodes of Khate's nonsense?? ___________________
I saw that too. Kate said there were going to be 8, count 'em, 8 episodes.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 · Nov 18 @A_Boltz December starting December 8 at 9pm... every week for 8 weeks! #NewSeason #KatePlus8 @TLC #SuperExciting
Maybe TLC is going to put her on a 10pm the last four weeks, like they did last January. The Little Couple was on at 9pm followed by Kate plus 8 at 10pm.
Breezy said... 17 Also just saw on Showbuzzdaily the ratings for last night was 955,000 December 9, 2015 at 1:01 PM ***** Hmm, the the "premier" garnered < 1 million. Not an auspicious start. Like I said, I think a lot of people were really looking forward to this season, and I think a good deal of them won't be tuning in for the rest because they're appalled at the kids. Well, mostly M. She must have been a pill. I really can't blame her or any of them, because they've had a revolving door of nannies and babysitters, the divorce of their parent, the fracture of their home, and a life in the spotlight. Mady needed to get into counseling years ago.
I'm not surprised the ratings continued to drop, even though TLC and Kate worked hard to promote this--lots of commercials, several media appearances, and they even stuck Kate in a bikini on the beach (and made sure to show that in the previews). Still, as I said a couple days ago, the public seems to be getting really bored with the Gosselins. What I really want to see is low the ratings can go in an 8-episode stretch. They have dropped steadily so far, and there's no reason to think that will change.
I didn't watch the show. But they way you guys are saying how the kids talk to Kate is no surprise. *************************** not only that, it was the way she was yelling, screaming, berating that Andrea girl. right in her face. I'm shaking my head.
IMO, Kate and the Figure 8 crew know darn well what the trigger points are. ***** Every reality tv show needs contention, and it used to be Jon and Kate. Now, it's Kate having a meltdown at every turn, and Mady's unruliness. Anyone can read the public K+8 FB page, and I don't know if I could leave the house if I were Mady. She's being sacrificed for ratings.
What's with the stuffed animals? Court ordered? She was accused in court of throwing out stuffed animals that their father gave them. I hope the kids drag them along just to remind her she's being watched.
What's with the stuffed animals? Court ordered? She was accused in court of throwing out stuffed animals that their father gave them. I hope the kids drag them along just to remind her she's being watched. ********************* Yeah PJ there was a lot of deja vu damage control she used to always do in the beginning. The spiel about safety while driving was glaringly damage control
Tucker's Mom (38) said… …I don't know if I could leave the house if I were Mady. She's being sacrificed for ratings. *********** Agreed! And the ratings are crap, so what does that tell you?
@Kate is a twit Also if they're pushing Kate back to 10 pm because of the little couple.That also could effect viewers if the majority of her viewers are teenagers,aside from the Christmas week,all those teens would have to go to bed early due to school and such.
I'm not surprised the ratings continued to drop, even though TLC and Kate worked hard to promote this--lots of commercials, several media appearances ___
She made media appearances??? when and where?.
Every time I saw her commercial I turned the channel or ignored it ..I bet a lot of people did to.
So Mady yelled at her best friend too? Wow. How embarrassing because you know their class was watching. I know nothing about her interaction with her schoolmates, but that is troubling. What did Kate do?
TLC stinks said... 47 So Mady yelled at her best friend too? Wow. How embarrassing because you know their class was watching. I know nothing about her interaction with her schoolmates, but that is troubling. What did Kate do? December 9, 2015 at 3:14 PM ****** I didn't watch the episode last night, but I did watch the part in Maine where Mady was giving the paddle board instructor lip and couldn't believe it. I hope Jon is trying to make inroads with a relationship with the twins. I think in big part what Mady is rebelling against is the loss of Jon in the home. He could always talk to her rationally and address her issues with calm and reason.
To me, the quizzical expression on the tup's face as she looks up at her mom says it all.
Exactly.
The little girl was looking at TFW like, what are you doing mommy? Why are you glowing like that? With that big smile? When just two seconds ago you were a raging lunatic?
Also just saw on Showbuzzdaily the ratings for last night was 955,000
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WHOA. I thought she'd at least break 1 million for a seasion premiere. I'm pleasantly surprised.
I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC. It's a different time now but you still need a LITTLE something when it comes to ratings to stay alive.
WHOA. I thought she'd at least break 1 million for a seasion premiere. I'm pleasantly surprised.
I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC. It's a different time now but you still need a LITTLE something when it comes to ratings to stay alive. December 9, 2015 at 3:54 PM **** It will be interesting to compare to the numbers from the Duggars and Little People. I'll bet they at least double K+8.
Jill and Jessa Counting On is going to crush in the numbers. They are pulling out the Josh card big time, with several family members speaking out, including Josh's wife. That is going to draw the gawking masses. It probably won't be as big as watching Jon and Kate's marriage implode, replete with wounded children, but it's going to be big.
Kate is the "stah" and everyone else is just props, not just including BUT especially her kids.
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I thought that too. LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! Stand aside everyone SUPERMOM IS HE-EERE!
So glad she didn't know she was going to get pushed off a tall building. At least it wiped that big ol' toothy smirk right off her face for a little while.
Is that Steve in the background with his back to the camera, scanning the crowd for snipers?
Why because they don't respect her on tiny bit. And beside being their mother what has she does to respect them?.
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You are absolutely right that they don't respect her, and that goes back to the fact that she doesn't respect them. She disrespects them, their privacy, their feelings, at every turn and has for years and we've been saying it for years. And to film them throughout this is the ultimate disrespect. The kids may still be a little too young to fully grasp that, but they internalize it even if they don't know what to call what they're feeling. They know darn well they get no respect from her.
And this behavior is a direct result, direct result, of a child receiving no respect from their parent.
With teachers, Jon, friends and others, they may be very nice kids. But they know with Kate they can be this way, so they are. I can't imagine behaving this way is pleasant for them, that they really like behaving this way. Deep down, I suspect it feels very unfulfilling to them, but they're children and not old enough to control themselves without a little help from the adult in charge. That's why they are children and that's why there are parents for them.
Administrator said (52)… I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC ******** There are several shows on TLC that get low ratings, but the difference is in the cost to produce those shows. You don't see Jazz or the girl from My Big Fat Fabulous Life or whoever going on constant vacations with a family of 9 plus friends and lots of paid help, plus getting expensive upgrades to their houses, plus a bodyguard, plus a huge paycheck. Kate nickels and dimes TLC to death. Even to the point of having to have new luggage when the kids already had luggage, or air mattresses for everyone just to move bedrooms, or a whole lobster for each kid when she didn't know whether they even liked lobster. She grasps for every last thing she can get on TLC's dime, and it has to add up fast. At some point they have to realize that the return they're getting is not worth all the extra costs. But the question is, what is that point?
Notice on the TLC FB page they posted about the return of the Little Couple. But still nothing about the return of Kate Plus 8. It's almost like they're ashamed of having the show back.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 22h22 hours ago WE DROVE ON REAL ROADS WITH REAL CARS AND SPEED LIMITS.. That are too fast for golf carts! Cut me a break? @TLC #KatePlus8
Love this tweet from one of Kate's sheeple:
hater hater@BuzzedBunny @Kateplusmy8 @TLC With your real kids in the carts. I'd be cautious and nervous too !
So I guess if Kate had her fake kids in the carts, she could drive wildly around.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 22h22 hours ago WE DROVE ON REAL ROADS WITH REAL CARS AND SPEED LIMITS.. That are too fast for golf carts! Cut me a break? @TLC #KatePlus8
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I didn't watch but does she think such vehicles are only unsafe if you're on a real road? The issue is small children driving them, children so young even the manufacturer doesn't recommend it.
It really depends on the community whether there is something very unsafe about being on an actual road. When I lived in a small beach town some years back lots of people had golf carts to get around the neighborhood. It was a thing. It really wasn't a big deal. There was only one accident I ever heard of, and it involved a group of teenagers being really reckless with the golf cart and flipping it. No other cars involved, so that could have happened in someone's back yard or a road, it wouldn't have mattered.
"In one of her attempts at humor, Kate said "life's a beach." We think that it's a case of a raging beach projecting some of her own beachiness onto life itself."
wow ...ratings for her premier and she didn't score a million? now that people have seen the sideshow I'm sure she'll lose almost half that audience....does TLC keep filming at those numbers? is it even worth it? this is embarrassing...
A must read - Fish-Wrapper's review of last night's show, "When Will This Nightmare End?" - it's brutal. The review ends "the biblical plague that is Kate herself". (available at TMZ)
The title of the 3rd show(next week's is Florida Fun) according to TLC's website is "What's Old Is New", but they haven't posted a description yet.
Doesn't that describe all their episodes? Old stuff recycled into new episodes? Maybe this is the episode where Kate takes the kids out for their special days--antique shopping with the twins, magic lessons with the boys and spa time with the girls.
Or maybe they lose Kate and come up with a new mother for those kids.
Well, I watched, or rather, fast-forwarded through the special On Demand. I agree with comments by others. Kate was the same, although she did seem a better weight, but her skin is not great. Loud, bossy shouting, her fake cutesy shrieks, her pretense of organization and control etc all present.Mady was mainly negative, critical, rude and self-centered. Cara was a little more talkative but has a paler version of Mady's temperament. Hannah bored and bossy, Leah loud and complaining, Alexis the odd-girl out, Joel sick while shopping, Aaden seemed fine, Collin looking miserable and tuned-out. Very sad. Big to-do about suitcase shopping. Mady hating beaches yet the kids 'begged' to go to one? Marley the friend as well as Andrea the helper silent. The kids just seem young for their ages, feel entitled to the best, and very rude. Nothing appealing here or even interesting- the Panic Room was kind of neat but couldn't really tell through all the yelling.Ugh.
Exactly and in the end Kate only has herself to blame when she end up lonely and alone.
But she going to blame the kids and Jon and her family. ---------------- I honestly (sorry!) think she won't give a toss. She'll have her nice pile 'o money and Skeve (who's got to be getting more than just a TLC paycheck out of his "association" with her---I mean, beside the boinks), and she'll go happily off to a beach somewhere. That's pretty much all she cares about. Forget what she says about babysitting her g'kids, etc., I don't see it happening. And I think it's true what others have said, I don't think she spends a whole lot of time with her kids even though they happen to live in the same house.
Fishwrapper's back with another story today: http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
Gotta love the last line:
"But nothing really happened. One of her kids was sick one morning, but what's a minor illness compared to the biblical plague that is Kate herself?"
Oh and Kate seems to be trying just a little bit today---yet another photo of Alexis and The Bird. She's so out of tricks it ain't funny.
Sad but true (#71), I agree that I think TFW will be fine and dandy if everyone splits. She was beating the snot out of those kids when they were at their most adorable -- tiny, wide-eyed, innocent, totally trusting. I don't think she's ever been "into" her kids beyond what they could do for her -- whether that meant a foot rub when she was tired, or being filmed while vomiting so that Mommy could afford another cosmetic enhancement. They are pawns in her game. In fact, she might relish a few of them leaving, as it will give her another opportunity to play victim.
I am kind of surprised she did not break a million but it was a very subdued promotion this time around. Maybe TLC realized that this "new" season was a real stinker or maybe they are tired of her demands.
"In one of her attempts at humor, Kate said "life's a beach." We think that it's a case of a raging beach projecting some of her own beachiness onto life itself." >>> OMG that was awesome
localyocul said... 80 The thing is, you know Cara and Mady are reading articles like that Fishwrapper one. I wonder what they think... ********* The problem, I think, is that Kate projects her "I'm rubber, you're glue" mentality on the kids and sees them as impervious to the derision she's exposed them to. She feels she's toughened them up- made them wiser- to the world that gawks and paws at them. Those kids are far from savvy and worldly.
"I was really looking forward to seeing the kids tonight....OMG....I am so disappointed actually shocked at the way those children act.
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I can imagine.
Remember in the olden days, something really terrible would happen on the show, like Collin being constipated and Kate not caring, and a bunch of sheep would be fleeced and come over to the anti-Gosselin blogs?
I wonder if we're in for another somewhat sizable round of fleecing. I think there are still some casual sheep left who are going to be shaken into reality with the children's behavior and connect it right back to Kate, rightly so. Dust off the membership cards, it could be time to welcome in some newbies.
I think she has the nerve to talk. She was living with different boyfriends at their parents homes before the age of 18 and they were waiting on her hand and foot. Did she sleep in a guest room or in the same room with her boyfriend?
***** No, she wasn't. She lived with one boyfriend, according to local reports. His name was Adam, he was 17, had graduated from high school and they met in Kutztown, PA. She was one year older. Kate was a nursing student at the time and she moved into his family home. He broke up with her when she was 21.
If you look at the video of the episode I posted, at approx. 25:29, you can see them walking into the panic room place and Collin is with them. He is never shown again during that whole segment(except for the couch interview, where he doesn't say anything).
Here comes Milo with the cute animal photos to get Kate's attention. She is soooooo predictable. Can Sandie be far behind in the competition?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago Fired Up 4 Kate Retweeted Funny Tweets So if we R going 2b channeling #Cute here ...let's savor this one! For #MissDooLittleLexie
Are the ratings decent ones that will satisfy TLC, or not so good? Will they drop with each subsequent episode? I can't imagine that the network is really happy with not breaking a million, but when you use Kate as filler, that's probably all they've got and they just have to bite the bullet.
Not a watcher either. I did watch Fargo, the TV show, which I had DVR'd. If I had a top 10 movie list, the movie Fargo would be on it. The television series is pretty close to being as good.
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues. She'll just go along with anything and drag the kids with her, looking at the dollar signs as she flails and shrieks.
Someone said that in the credits, Deanna was listed as hair & make-up, but when you look at tfw pic on Fishwrapper, her eyebrows are very bushy & messy, too much pencil, plus it looks way too orange on her face. She can keep her make-up minion, I prefer to do my own!
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues. She'll just go along with anything and drag the kids with her, looking at the dollar signs as she flails and shrieks. ==================
I looked at that place's website. This is the description:
"Can you solve the puzzles necessary, in the escape room, to complete your task before your time has expired? Our escape rooms will challenge your abilities to work as a team, to think outside the box, to pay attention to detail and work under pressure.
Escape Zone 60 is a live, interactive, fun, puzzle solving game where you have 60 minutes to solve the puzzles needed to complete your goal of escaping the room before time is up. No special skills are required, only an interest to succeed and have Fun."
It actually does sound like a lot of fun. It sounds like something I would enjoy doing. But Kate was the one who causing the anxiety. She totally sucked the fun out of. Why couldn't she just let the kids play? She always has to be in the thick of things just to ramp up the dramatics.
BTW, the cost is $30 per player. There was 10 of them playing. Think Kate paid that--yeah, I bet.
Here's the website, for anyone who wants to look at it.
http://escapezone60.com/
And I doubt they completed it with only 2 seconds to go. I'm sure that was thoroughly manipulated to ramp up even more drama.
I feel bad for Collin that he was left out of it, but the way Kate acted, perhaps it was better for him. Maybe he already knew what to expect and opted out of participating. Do I dare hope that it was his decision and not Kate's?
In a way, I'm glad Kate didn't give an explanation. Maybe she was hoping that nobody would notice Collin's absence. I didn't see anyone asking her on twitter why Collin wasn't playing the game. Even eagle-eye Milo didn't say anything.
I've done the escape game thing, it was called The Exit Game I just did it for the first time a couple months ago. It was SO FUN.
It is expensive though. It was a special treat. There were just two of us, and it was actually pretty hard. There were I think four rooms, the first one two jail cells and you couldn't see the other person, and we got out of the first one easily after about 15 minutes, but got stuck on the second. They wanted you to watch the pattern of flickering lights on a very high ceiling and knock on this box to the pattern to open the door. We thought no way in hell is that how you open the door, that's too odd and how would that work, do they have someone standing there? You actually feel the stress of the clock winding down.
Anyway, super fun although we sulked all the way home for not making it out. We were talking about how many people are ideal and we were saying more minds on the life-sized puzzle is probably a good idea. Maybe four people, a double date. However any more than that and I think it's too many people for it to be fun and to feel like you're contributing to solving it.
(Leslie) About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you.
It actually does sound like a lot of fun. It sounds like something I would enjoy doing. But Kate was the one who causing the anxiety. She totally sucked the fun out of. Why couldn't she just let the kids play? She always has to be in the thick of things just to ramp up the dramatics. ______________________________
These room escape experiences are popping up everywhere. My family did the Escape the Room in Philly, and it was one of the most fun times we have ever had. There were 6 of us, ranging in age from 23 to 60, and everyone had to work together to figure out the clues and puzzles. The neat thing was that everyone had different aptitudes, and each person contributed something important to helping us escape in time. It was a shared experience in teamwork that we still talk about months later. I highly recommend trying it.
It was a shared experience in teamwork that we still talk about months later. I highly recommend trying it.
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Isn't it fun!
We talked a lot about what it would be good for. For us, the team building exercise was great for our relationship. Especially for the first room, you cannot solve your half of the puzzle without talking to your partner about their half. You felt a really great sense of shared accomplishment when you unlocked the cell. My partner was telling me through the wall good job, you're doing great, keep it up! (I was moving a magnetic ball around--long story lol) It was really sweet and felt awesome.
It would be good for coworkers, or people working on the relationship whatever the relationship is.
Admin - I just read about your experience with a room escape game. I think having just two people would have been incredibly hard. We had six people, and that seemed like the perfect number. One person was very analytical, one was very mechanically inclined, one was mathematical, one was a gamer, one was very logical, and one was the gopher and scribe (yes, that would be me!). We sucked really badly for the first 10 minutes in the room, but then we started to figure things out. And the more we figured out, the more exciting it got! We will definitely be doing another escape game soon.
My partner was telling me through the wall good job, you're doing great, keep it up! (I was moving a magnetic ball around--long story lol) It was really sweet and felt awesome. _______________________________
That IS awesome! It is great to hear encouragement and positivity. I can only imagine what a nightmare it would be to have someone like Kate criticizing or barking orders throughout and making what should be a fun time absolutely unbearable.
I hope this comment doesn't post twice, I lost my internet after the first one.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour. No way she did it with a bunch of kids unless it was dumbed down for her. I'll bet those poor kids were locked in that room for hours with her while the cameras rolled.
Why couldn't she just let the kids play? ****** Oh, surely you jest!! (I know you do!) Kate competes with her children and then congratulates herself when she beats them. It's not like a child who wants to play a game with a parent. It's Kate unable to stand back and allow her kids to have all the fun to themselves. Crushing her kids in competition is another mark of a good parent to her, because it toughens them up, in her warped mind. I get that you can't let kids win all of the time, but Kate is pure Mommy Dearest, exploiting her advantage in age and size. If it were me, I'd want to sit back and let my kids to that panic room all alone to see what they could deal with, without me.
Maybe Colin had to accompany everyone to the escape room place, then had to sit it out because it would be too stressful. With his challenges, that kind of pressure might cause anxiety or even anger. Sounds like the little guy appeared rather quiet in the episode.
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues. **************************************************** Friends of ours have done one of these and all they could say was how fun it was. It comes off as this high anxiety thing because it's the Gosselins. You have 4 or more "khates" in a locked room? How else would things go? This is just how things have progressed from simple things like carving pumpkins, using markers, decorating cupcakes to what transpired in that room. Kids learn what they live. I still can't get over Mady though. Dare I say she'll be worse than her mother. I can't get the image of her shrilling in that woman's face out of my head.
I hope this comment doesn't post twice, I lost my internet after the first one.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour. No way she did it with a bunch of kids unless it was dumbed down for her. I'll bet those poor kids were locked in that room for hours with her while the cameras rolled. ****************************** Oh yeah, absolutely thought the same thing. And wouldn't you know it, they figured it out with less than a second to spare! And the smug look on her face during her victory speech was classic narc. She'd expects a standing ovation for wiping her own a$$
Mady screaming "DO AS I SAY!! DO AS I SAY!!! DO THE MATH!! WHAT IS THE ANSWER!!? WHAT IS THE ANSWER!!?" Classic narc behavior. Gets in a rage, abuses the "victim" verbally demanding they "perform" and of course the victim will be blamed if things go wrong, and the narc will take the credit if things go right.
Friends of ours have done one of these and all they could say was how fun it was. It comes off as this high anxiety thing because it's the Gosselins.
********** Excellent point. Going anywhere, doing anything as a group with Mommy along is an exercise in anxiety for them I'm sure. On the other hand it should be old hat to them by now having to live by time clocks and under stress to move quickly to get things done FAST. They do live with Kate after all. Army boot camp would be a breeze for them. They've lived with a demanding drill sergeant all this time.
How long can one woman drone on about rechecking the kids' suitcases?
What's really creepy is, they may very well have done that game again and again until they did genuinely solve it with 2 seconds to spare. They could've been shooting there for 8 hours.
As far as anxiety, how about adding "oh, plus there's a camera crew there, so if you fail, your friends and classmates can watch it on TV." You can't tell me all 8 kids were thrilled with that prospect.
Fidosmommy (#110), I think the new expression, instead of something being as boring "as watching paint dry" should be "as boring as rechecking kids' suitcases!"
Virginia Pen Mom, are you out there? Hope things are well.
Kate is a twit said... 86 localyocul said... 85 Now I'm curious to watch it. It's not On Demand on my Fios yet. I am curious to see how the kids really seem -----------------
localyocul--you can watch it online here. There's no charge to watch.
I saw that! In the message I got, I was under the impression that sKate was finally copping to her horrific behaviour, but when I read the article I realized they were printing excerpts from Robert's book. Or should I say sKate's book.
I don't get why it was made into such a big deal that they finished the room "in time." Even if it wasn't "set up" or "fake" they weren't going to finish it in time so they gave them the hint they needed to finish. They showed that. The hint actually told them what they did wrong and what to do to get the right answer. It plainly TOLD THEM to deduct, not add, the last number. While it's part of the game to get a hint if you're stuck (and they got multiple hints throughout the game) I wouldn't consider that final last minute hint just a hint. It was like the win was essentially given to them. The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team.
That's just how I see it. Maybe everyone gets hints at the last minute like that but to make it seem like they were in this elite 30% seems like a stretch.
The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team.
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The way Kate talked??? She also said she conquered her fear of heights when she jumped off the building in Skyzone or whatever it was called. She lay in a quivering puddle on the ground afterward but in her mind she conquered it.
I wonder how the Dilley or McCaughey (sp?) families would have done at that game. Not as far as winning or losing, but as far as family dynamics. I'm sure it would look far different than the Gosselin adventure.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour.
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They have medium and hard rooms at my Escape Game. We did a medium one and although we found the first room went pretty smoothly (we realized right away that each person had enough information on their side of the jail cell to complete the puzzle with the help of the other person's info, so it was just a matter of talking out the clues through the wall), we just couldn't see the way out of the second one. You can ring this buzzer and ask for a hint. We REALLY didn't want to do that but finally when we had 8 minutes left we asked for one knowing we just weren't going to crack it so we might as well.
Unfortunately the hint the guy gave us ended up confusing us more, but oh well, it was a great time anyway.
If you continued to ring and ask for hints, anyone could make it out of there within the hour. We wanted to do it on our own merit. If that's what the Gosselin's did, ask for multiple hints, it does not surprise me they made it through. It's too bad they didn't stick with it and try to do it without that.
If you ask for hints at Escape Game, you are not eligible to be "ranked" on their winner board.
Lie: it was not the first time the tups packed. In the couch interview Leah says "she never packs, I mean she does, but typically she needs help."
Vera Bradley backpacks too, oh my!
Poor Collin. He must be medicated or something. So withdrawn. He definitely was shown walking with the group to Escape Zone, then poof.. Very sneaky to have him sit through that couch interview when he did NOT participate.
It would be interesting if one of the kids stopped filming for one reason or another....would TLC try to cover it up like they did with Collin? Could the show go on? After all it is called Kate plus 8 .....not 7...
What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty...
What was with the room assignments? Teens together, fine, Aaden, Joel and Alexis in one room?? Then H and L together as usual on an air mattress- does this mean Collin was with Kate/Andrea? Does he not get along with a single one of the siblings? Wow, poor kid.
Previous comment...Leah was referring to Alexis who does not like to pack.
Who the heck us Kate talking to off camera? That really bugs me. Shouldn't she look at the camera and talk to the audience?
Can't believe she has not cooked Korean BBQ for the kids or even bothered to get the recipe from Jon or his mother. Well, actually I can believe it. I noticed she said Jon is 1/2 Korean which makes "MY" kids 1/4.
Mady did yell at Andrea and I thought Andrea looked exasperated in the Escape Zone room.
The golf cart thing was just plain stoopid. There was hardly any traffic.
No telling how long they filmed on the beach. I doubt it was just two hours per Kate. LOL, Kate got sunburned badly.
My feeling is that Collin should not be filming. I'm no doctor, but that kid is either depressed or medicated. I think Andrea was there primarily to watch him.
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all.
The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team. ***** Kate and the producers/editors are very good at spinning yarns. I point to the corn maze filming which lasted literally all of 20 minutes, and by the confessional Kate did, you'd have thought they were there alllllllllllllllllllllllll day. Hours and hours and hours and hours. Boy, was Kate glad they ate before they went! Implying that they were there for a long time, actually doing the maze. People have to wake up and realize what's in each episodes is distilled down and carefully edited, including the confessionals, to make a story that is in line with the arc they wish to present. Each character, including Mady 'the bitch', is portrayed exactly how TLC wants.
What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty...
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I haven't watched the show yet but by the comments here about Collin it sounds like authorities might have stepped in on his behalf to make sure he isn't subjected to a lot of stressful situations that trigger behavior problems.
That damn Kate. A genuinely concerned mother would say if this is what filming has done to my kids, we won't do it anymore.
Jon saw it coming and got out but Kate's going to push this filming as far and long as she can. She is a horrible person.
JR said... 126 What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty... December 10, 2015 at 7:50 AM ****** When a family is fractured by divorce and it's on tv. When 2 of the kids are subsequently kicked out of school because of bad behavior and it's still on tv. When one child has special needs,is pulled out of his school and sent to another, yet he's still on tv. When teens are going through really bad hormonal ups and downs and it's on tv. At this point, I don't know what would need to happen for Jon to get any of the kids off tv.
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all. *********************** I believe so. I commented up thread about her going to great lengths to explain how Joel was feeling quite sick and had a sore back, but gosh darn it!! He did NOT want to miss luggage shopping! yippee!! Everything that comes out of her mouth is calculating, there is always an ulterior motive, classic katespeak
fidosmommy said... 131 Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all. December 10, 2015 at 8:16 AM **** Don't have time to go and look it up right now, but iirc, if anyone signed to the show missed X amount of filming, there would be financial penalties. When I read that, it made total sense about how we saw sick kids still made to film, go on outings and travel.
oh she will film those kids until one has a breakdown....and still continue...very interesting that all of them must report or the contract is broken...I find that fascinating...no wonder she was at Jons window screaming for Hannah to come home....can't have a broken contract 😱!
Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target.
I totally agree- I think it was Joel who was the scapegoat kid to start with( his breathing, Daddy's 'girl,' laundry room 'vomitus' child, globegate) because he reminded Kate of Jon- said in MB that he looked just like him.
But I think Collin now is the one, with issues and being 'imperfect" and a challenge to her authority. She has tried and maybe successfully, to break his spirit by isolating him from the others and her nasty treatment of him. He really looks unhappy, and we see how the other children leave him out and even taunt him. The latest pic on her Twitter shows just the 5 tups doing homework, again no colleen, iirc.
TLC stinks said... 129 My feeling is that Collin should not be filming. I'm no doctor, but that kid is either depressed or medicated. I think Andrea was there primarily to watch him.
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That was the gist of those DMs that Em supposedly sent that hater (also Redbirds bully). That there was a child(ren) that needed to be guided and was on behavioral medication. And now EM has not uttered a word about the new season (at least last I checked).
Wow I just read the Radar article where it is just basically quote after quote of her diary confessiong the pulling up by the hair, whipping into the crib, etc.
Each character, including Mady 'the bitch', is portrayed exactly how TLC wants. ************************************** I get what you're saying, they certainly don't edit out any of the awful footage. But sorry, there was no reason nor any possible explanation/excuse for how that went down. And that Andrea girl just took it! That's how bullies/narcs get away with their behavior and abuse, they are permitted to treat people abusively. Her mother was in her own self absorbed zone she could care less. Bet if Jon had witnessed that, there would have been words spoken to her, as any other "normal"parent would have done.I'm betting that Andrea is a victim in many aspects of her private life. She wasn't even flinching or giving off any kind of facial expression. I found that to be very telling.
Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target. *********************** That is so sad. See, we adults can cut whoever out of our lives. Toxic people have no purpose. Poor children have to endure the abuse. It's awful
I totally agree- I think it was Joel who was the scapegoat kid to start with( his breathing, Daddy's 'girl,' laundry room 'vomitus' child, globegate) because he reminded Kate of Jon- said in MB that he looked just like him ******************************** Yes, she broke him I think. Now he just goes with whatever, knowing it's best to just DO. He went luggage shopping feeling sick and with a sore back, he was in obvious distress, flinching. But he sucked it up-he out of ALL OF THEM (yes, vomitus boy on the dark laundry room floor) knows there won't be any sympathy.
Vanessa said... 137 I'm beginning to think Joel is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family.
http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoat.html#axzz3tw4jpYVx *********************** Sorry, not Joel. Colin
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I've thought that since they were babies. He's got a mind of his own and thwarts her authority. I see she's managed to get around that. Never mind Lord of the Flies in that house. It's more like Game of Thrones.
Tucker's Mom said... 139 fidosmommy said... 131 Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all. December 10, 2015 at 8:16 AM **** Don't have time to go and look it up right now, but iirc, if anyone signed to the show missed X amount of filming, there would be financial penalties. When I read that, it made total sense about how we saw sick kids still made to film, go on outings and travel =============
I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL".
6. Family Incapacity. An event of Family incapacity shall be deemed to occur if Family is unable to fully render services in accordance with the terms of this Agreement, as determined by Company, as the result of any physical, mental or other impairment (e.g. Family’s illness, injury or mental disability; or impairment of Family’s voice, appearance and/ or mobility) (“ Family Incapacity”). Without limiting any other rights of Company under this Agreement, in the event of Family Incapacity, (i) Company shall not be obligated to pay or credit Family with any compensation during such Family Incapacity and (ii) Company shall have the right to suspend this Agreement during such period of Family Incapacity and shall have the right, but not the obligation, to extend this Agreement by the length of any such suspension. … If any Family Incapacity continues for at least seven (7) days in the aggregate, Company shall have the right to terminate this Agreement without any further obligation to Family except for appropriate payment or adjustment with respect to any Family services satisfactorily completed prior to such termination provided that Family is not in breach of this Agreement.
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 5307-5313). . Kindle Edition.
I watched the escape room challenge. Is Colin the boy on the right of the couch? Whew, so sullen and withdrawn. Could be because he was made to sit there while his brothers explained the task he didn't do. Very sad looking. Not right at all. At least the 2 boys who participated looked like they weren't completely elbowed out by their sisters and mother. Kate just took control, and by control, I saw freaking out, yelling and grabbing. It's like she truly doesn't see anyone else around her, or realize how her behavior affects others. They were a hot mess, but I guess that's the point of the exercise. From what I saw, it's plain to see that they never would have made it out without many clues given to them on the tv screen, especially the last one. But yeah, Colin...
Anonymous said... 98 (Leslie) About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you ************* The previous ratings are: 10th Birthday Special #1 2.359 Million Special 2 1.901 million Episode 1 1.795 million Episode 2 1.321 million Episode 3 1.732 million Episode 4 1.440 million Episode 5 1.444 million Episode 6 (Mother's Day Special) 1.244 million 3-hour Special 615,000 Epsiode 7 (Mexico) 1.077 million Episode 8 (11th birthday) 1.034 million
The way Kate talked??? She also said she conquered her fear of heights when she jumped off the building in Skyzone or whatever it was called. She lay in a quivering puddle on the ground afterward but in her mind she conquered it.
Just like she ran a marathon... Bitch, please. -------------------------- Exactly. At the jump, she was totally obnoxious, refusing to either jump or leave. Basically the guy pushed her off. I might have done the same, had I been in his position. I understand that her fear of heights may be real and very debilitating, but then why put herself in that position? With her massive ego fighting with her real fear, she was unable to function.
Calling it a victory was a real stretch. She didn't conquer her fear at all. Do you think she's less afraid of heights now? Not a chance.
I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL". ********************************* There you have it, kids having to work for their supper. The supper they're puking up because they're sick.
Vanessa said... 147 Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target. *********************** That is so sad. See, we adults can cut whoever out of our lives. Toxic people have no purpose. Poor children have to endure the abuse. It's awful
(( It is awful. Her sm is a narcissist IMO and she was HORRIBLE to my dd who as a result had anger issues as a teen. No way in hell would I have wanted the stuff she went through broadcast over the airways. Silly us, we just worked through it in a therapist office instead...and she's grown into a compassionate, loving young adult who sees things for what they are and worries about her two younger half siblings.
Calling it a victory was a real stretch. She didn't conquer her fear at all. Do you think she's less afraid of heights now? Not a chance. ******************* Rewriting history to accommodate her fantasies. How do you ever have any type of relationship with a person who lies so easily and distorts the truth? Answer you can't have one.
It is awful. Her sm is a narcissist IMO and she was HORRIBLE to my dd who as a result had anger issues as a teen. No way in hell would I have wanted the stuff she went through broadcast over the airways. Silly us, we just worked through it in a therapist office instead...and she's grown into a compassionate, loving young adult who sees things for what they are and worries about her two younger half siblings. ****************************** Good job:) Now are her half siblings this narc's biological children? Why does your ex put up wit her?
Collin will be forced to film no matter how harmful it is to him. After all, "Kate Plus 7" doesn't rhyme. ********** Bet she wishes it could be just Kate.
I've posted several times about C and J being branded from the get-go by the opening credits: C was "stubborn," and J was "sneaky." They. Were. Toddlers.
Just watched the show up until the escape room. In the scenes where Colin is sitting next to Kate in the golf cart, he looks lobotomized. That poor child. I wonder if he's getting any professional help or is Kate just shoving pills down his throat.
I can't see how anyone can watch that farce and think that filming should continue and how they can enjoy watching. It flabbergasts me.
Vanessa said... 155 I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL". ********************************* There you have it, kids having to work for their supper. The supper they're puking up because they're sick.
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Because their "mother" took them out on their fucketybillionth boat ride knowing full well they get seasick and not giving them anything to prevent it
Layla said... 153 Anonymous said... 98 (Leslie) About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you ************* The previous ratings are: 10th Birthday Special #1 2.359 Million Special 2 1.901 million Episode 1 1.795 million Episode 2 1.321 million Episode 3 1.732 million Episode 4 1.440 million Episode 5 1.444 million Episode 6 (Mother's Day Special) 1.244 million 3-hour Special 615,000 Epsiode 7 (Mexico) 1.077 million Episode 8 (11th birthday) 1.034 million
Thank you Kate is a Twit! I thought the penalties of illness were severe. Thanks also to Robert for letting that little kitten out of the bag for all of us to know about how tightly Discovery had families under their control.
I think it's pretty hard to swallow that her ratings will go up after her premier show....I wonder if 600,000 is enough to keep filming ...because that's where I believe she will end up this time..Although Kendra's been consistently at around 600,000 after the trans affair and she hasn't been cancelled.....:yet!!
If Collin looks and acts the same in the future episodes, Jon needs to step in, if he has not already. That child is a shell of what he was. Bad enough the way the girls act, but you are right that he is isolated from the others and what's the reason for that? He did indeed look lobotomized on the golf cart and of course she's got him right next to her.
And poor Joel looked absolutely horrible when they went suitcase shopping. Dumb Kate knew the kid was sick before they left the house, but the show must go on. I would never drag a sick kid shopping. She is evil. Did you see the dark circles under his eyes? The kid probably was feeling bad all night.
Thanks for that contract excerpt. Explains it all.
I'll tell you one thing, if any of those kids get sick on next week's fishing trip, it was deliberate. Inexcusable for seasickness these days. Get a patch or pills for your kids, Kate.
Dumb Kate knew the kid was sick before they left the house, but the show must go on. *************************** She does not give 2 flying $#@%# about her kids' health. It's understood that they'll find sympathy in the dictionary between s@$# and syphilis. So easy for her to lie through her teeth how she's Mother Theresa incarnate during her talking head, and even in private with those kid. We SAW how she freaked over the vomit on the comforter. We SAW her put her gravely ill boy on a cold laundry room floor with the lights off. WE SAW bitch. But if mommie dearest even gets a hangnail (or stubs her flintsone toe) her little minions better come running and listen to her moan and groan and do her bidding. She is disgusting. Her soul is black
Well TLC Stinks, one of them for sure gets sick. One of the boys is shown throwing up overboard I believe, in the previews. Yes, deliberate. She will explain it away to those kids when they are adults as "the show must go on" but deep down inside, I believe she enjoys seeing her kids suffer. She enjoys it.
Poor, poor little Collin. I feel so bad for that child. I hate it when they are at the beach, and he is always alone in the water..far away from the rest of the kids, and always too far out. I can just picture in my mind that some day that little fellow will just keep walking, and that will be the end of him. He is so beaten down and sad.
Also, the picture of her standing on the beach with her looking away from the water, look how off center her belly button is. It looks terrible.
__________________ That's not really her fault. It's the result of the tummy tuck. I didn't watch the show, but I've seen pictures, and if it looks that horrible, then you don't rock a bikini...you wear a nice one piece suit.
Oh and in the preview, she's squawking about how she loves LOVES deep sea fishing. me me me, I I I But guess who has to go along and be tortured? Those kids are going to do whatever mommie dearest LOVES to do
Maybe Robert knows what is going on with Collin and the re-release will start people asking questions because I agree, she does not want a lawsuit and all the can of worms that will open. And TLC needs to make a decision too...finally cut her loose for good or continue the coverup of her abuse.
What were the ratings immediately before the show was cancelled, er, put on hiatus...when the "contest" took place and that infamous Walmart parking lot fiasco was recorded?
Gosh, Gladys, I bet TFW will be "trending" soon -- but for all the wrong reasons. It's about time for the #1 fan to take her best shot at Robert and Jon about all the lies and exaggerations.
The Escape Room sounds like a living hell on earth for anyone suffering from anxiety attacks if they are locked into a space. I'm not talking about claustrophobia, but rather the fear of not being able to get out of an enclosed space. I could spend a night in a closet, but as long as I know I could get out if I needed to, it wouldn't bother me. I would assume that there are emergency exits in case of a fire and such, but still...
Being locked in would send me into a panic, and the results wouldn't be pretty!
It really seems like Robert's book might get some traction. I think the press grabbed onto the phrase "Kate admits abuse." I think she may need a little PR help. But knowing her Teflon luck, it may just bring her higher numbers Tuesday. Sigh.
Wow, Vanessa. What a manipulative c**t. How will she explain away the seasickness? ********** Wouldn't it be wonderful if she were the one to finally up chuck? All over her stringy tresses? In all her glory on TEEVEE? Santa, I would be forever grateful if you gave this gift.
It really seems like Robert's book might get some traction. I think the press grabbed onto the phrase "Kate admits abuse." I think she may need a little PR help. But knowing her Teflon luck, it may just bring her higher numbers Tuesday. Sigh. *****Here's hoping. I've yet to read "alleged" anywhere. Or "stolen". Every gossip site I've read has used the words "her diary"
It looks like Kate is flopping guys,is this enough to get her cancelled? http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-plus-8-season-premiere-ratings-drop/
I haven't always agreed with Robert's tactics, but it appears he's getting some good advice from someone. The timing of this is perfect. They are a ton of people who never read the book. And he's been a champion of Collin.
Winsomeone said... 182 Poor, poor little Collin. I feel so bad for that child. I hate it when they are at the beach, and he is always alone in the water..far away from the rest of the kids, and always too far out. I can just picture in my mind that some day that little fellow will just keep walking, and that will be the end of him. He is so beaten down and sad.
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Finally, someone said it. That child looks so drained, hopeless, SAD.
I PRAY that nothing happens like that to the G kids, but if it did, TFW would negotiate a big payday for the filming. A "friend" would start a GoFundMe for TFW. She would start a church tour selling not 20 dollar but 25 dollar pictures of her and 7 kids. She would get the appearance fee, the picture money and a Love Offering at the end of the performance. And she will receive sympathy cards in the mail, many with cash.
She won't get cancelled, just not renewed for any more specials. Unfortunately, her ratings would have to sink incredibly low or there's a scandal that they have to walk away from. Here's this, though:
However, even though the Facebook group No More Duggars is reporting that almost 900 companies and brands will not advertise on the show, TLC has no plans to ditch the Duggars. Is there a connection between the head of the Duggar clan, Jim Bob Duggar, and TLC that is preventing the network from walking away from the scandal-ridden family? Or is the network just missing the cash the Duggars brought i Read more at http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/08/jim-bob-duggar-in-bed-with-tlc-network#VtfST2e2rjgv815H.99
I agree about Collin; medicated, depressed or both. Why is he separated from the others? His face was so blank. We are not the only ones to notice the child is in trouble.
@TLC stinks Oh i agree both Kate and the duggars have to have something over TLC's heads if they still move foward with both shows.Which i don't think anyone would be shocked.Maybe there is more people on TLC crew thats like Bill Blankinship or maybe something.I don't know,it just doesn't add up to me.
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Geez. Kate is such a liar. Jon said the twins are on social media and they are on their phones like mom.
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Thanks. I could have sworn it was pretty much confirmed that yes, the twins are on social media.
At 15, they sure should be allowed.
chefsummer #Leh said... 195
When I saw that she was grilling the Korean bbq my thought were.
1.Hope no one gets food poisoning.
2.That's Jon's idea.
3.Why is she back on tv?
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1. Me too!
2. Everything she does is derivative.
3. Because she'll never stop using her kids for fame, attention and money.
Seriously, how does she help them with the Family Tree object? 165
IMO, Katie abdicated responsibility for mothering those children very early on. It was her toddlers' responsibility to resolve their disagreements (her words), we've never seem her teach them anything (even as simple as tying shoes).She has ruled with threats, physical abuse and bribes. It's starting to come back and bite her on the ass.
Those poor children.
Reading the Facebook comments, it seems Mady has totally been cast as the bratty bitch with a mouth on her.
I know some people liked her spunk when she was younger, but an entitled teenager with anger issues should not be filmed for public viewing. 198
Not everyone. There was a of called MG is a b•••• when she was six years old.
I agree completely about the filming.
What a pompous arrogant little witch. Oh, the beach, the beach, steak and seafood! Who doesn't go to the beach? Oh, and when we went to Mexico!
And the complaining those kids (girls) do! ugh.
And what a liar, I'm sure she's putting words in Joel's mouth (probably if he tells his dad) that he DIDN'T want to go shopping.
And what's with the ring on her left ring-finger?
And what? Those kids don't already have their own luggage? Spoiled and entitled. Still always looking at the camera man, speaking to whoever's behind the lense.
I think TFW might truly be terrified about the twins
dating, because it is their first real step towards independence.
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You said it! Also, when teens are dating, they tend to care more about what the boy/girlfriend thinks than their cross ol' mommy.
Seriously, can you imagine being a young man dating a Gosselin teen? I'm guessing too much Mommy in the picture, ruining the fun. I wonder if that sort of thing is why Kate left her own home so early? I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud.
It's pathetic enough to let yourself be cast as someone people "love to hate." But it's a special kind of evil when you put your child in the spotlight to assume that role. For a decade.
With no end in sight.
"Fightily"? stfu
Also I noticed it was a male filming the girls in their bedroom.
"ugh! this is sooo exhausting!" where have we heard this before?
Hannah overtakes Joel's packing.
tfw's complexion is AWFUL.
A bus is of course picking them up. 254,000 pieces of luggage.
When she started to do the research on the resort...bahaha. ok
And in other news (waiving to Joy)Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd got engaged Saturday during their performance together in Miami.
I remember when we were asked not to name-call the kids. Calling Kate out on her lousy parenting was fine, but we were not to discuss the children directly. Serious question: has this changed now that the kids are older?
wow, Mady IS her mother.
Fidosmommy (#7), imagine being one of the twins, having grown up with the non-stop din of your 6 younger siblings, not to mention a film crew all
up in your Kool-Aid at all hours of the day. And now you're almost 16, and some boy invites you to hang out at his house, where maybe there's one or two siblings, and no lights and microphones and cameras. Hmmm...where would you rather spend your Saturday?
I've mentioned this before: the Gosselin kids look Korean to us because we are not Korean. To Korean people, they would look Caucasian. It's largely in the eye of the beholder.
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The least looking Asian girls are Cara and Alexis. When you see them up close and personal, you'd never know that they were even 1/4 Asian.
Saw on TLC's facebook page that the Little Couple is coming back on Tuesday, January 5th at 9:00. So there is only 3 more episodes of Khate's nonsense??
Oh yeah, shades of her berating Jon! Mady's NOT going to take it. I foresee some ugly UGLY fights in the near future. Who am I kidding, they ARE having ugly brutal fights right now. OMG! Mady yelling in that Andrea's face? SOOO disrespectful.
Also just saw on Showbuzzdaily the ratings for last night was 955,000
Oh, and I am sure that kids at M and C's school are into al sorts of things. Often it's the richer kids who are into drugs and alcohol.
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I'm not even going to respond to that one, other than to say it's not accurate to profile a kid because he/she may attend a private school and some may have well-to-do parents. Not all kids there were born with silver spoons in their mouths and are served life on golden platters. That is not the way that it is.
Funny...I never thought the kids 'looked' anything.
I always saw them as just a bunch of cute little kids.
But TFW sure seems focused on their looks.
Rhymes with Witch said... 5
There was a of called MG is a b•••• when she was six years old.
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I'll lay odds Kate behaved exactly the same way when she was 15 years old as Mady. And she has three more daughters who are taking it all in and learning.
If Kate is whining and complaining now about all the refereeing and 'playing fair' and settling arguments she has to do, just wait a year. She'll be in a strait jacket and TLC will be right there filming it all. Kate wouldn't want anyone to miss seeing how difficult her life is and why she desperately needs those vacation getaways with Steve.
The ratings are out. 955,000 viewers and a 0.37 share. Lowest numbers out of any of the specials featuring the kids. The only one lower was the "Decade of Kate" special that had 615,000 viewers.
Hope Andrea is getting paid a pretty penny to endure that ABUSE. NO excuse for it, none!
Ratings are out. Although the show finished 17th in the top 50 original cable shows, it had less than a million viewers at 955,000. The demographic for 18-49 was .37. Interesting that the highest demographic rating was in the female 12-34 group at .48.
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-update-12-8-2015.html
Of course, that could be adjusted up or down once the DVR ratings are added.
fidosmommy, it's discussed because it's pretty obvious Kate is going to film no matter what issues any of her children are having. She's made their issues public. They have no privacy. Unless those are haters posting comments on Facebook, the behavior was shockingly bad. IMO, Kate and the Figure 8 crew know darn well what the trigger points are. Instead of dealing with issues in private, Kate uses the behavior for drama. Kate has made her daughter look bad publicly and therefore, it is worth discussing. A normal, loving parent wants to protect their child. Proves to me those kids are nothing but a meal ticket.
Just plowing the food into her, shoveling it in and of course talking with her mouth full.
Again, bragging non stop about how GREAT of a job she did with the beef.
Ratings are in! 955,000 according to Showbuzz.. Under a million already and this is just the first episode! How low will they go by the time this season ends?
Reading the FB comments, it seems like the show will be losing long-time viewers over the bratty and mouthy and overall sad behavior of the kids.
Also, is it common for 11-year olds to need their stuffed animals with them?
I clearly remember being in the 5th and 6th grade and my stuffed animal days were well behind me. I would have been mortified to have people see me hugging them.
I was mortified to get dolls at age 7 or 8.
What am I a baby????!
Maybe times have changed.
Showbuzz Daily has the ratings out for the show last night and it didn't even get a million viewers. If that's what the first episode gets I can just imagine the ratings will be at rock bottom by the final one.
There's "bonus" footage of Kate grilling the Korean beef bbq, and it looks tough as shoe leather.
For someone who wrote a cookbook, well, never mind...
She'll never stop being amazed at herself for figuring out how to use a grill sometime in her 30's.
Because, it all fell on her shoulders. Those kids would never get a grilled meal or bbq if she didn't do it.
Does Jon even have arms? How is he so unable to do anything, ANYTHING??
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chefsummer #Leh said... 195
When I saw that she was grilling the Korean bbq my thought were.
1.Hope no one gets food poisoning.
2.That's Jon's idea.
3.Why is she back on tv?
December 9, 2015 at 11:24 AM
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1. Me too!
2. Everything she does is derivative.
3. Because she'll never stop using her kids for fame, attention and money.
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4. Kate needs her money to keep Steve around cause he's not working or loving for free.
I didn't watch the show. But they way you guys are saying how the kids talk to Kate is no surprise.
Why because they don't respect her on tiny bit. And beside being their mother what has she does to respect them?.
The 8 have their mother's number and they're going to use it.
Pa Dutch I'm not talking about private schools or saying all kids at that school are like into things or are rich... My kid went to a school that runs the gamut from very poor to very rich and rich kids have access to the money for the drugs. There were drug dealers targeting the mainline high schools. I meant nothing against this specific school; but if you think none of them are buying booze and drugs I would say you are wrong.
Just peek into an area in yik yak around high schools and you can see what the kids, some high schoolers some just out, are yakking about. A lot of social stuff politics studying but also a lot about drugs drinking and sex
Saw on TLC's facebook page that the Little Couple is coming back on Tuesday, January 5th at 9:00. So there is only 3 more episodes of Khate's nonsense??
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I saw that too. Kate said there were going to be 8, count 'em, 8 episodes.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 · Nov 18
@A_Boltz December starting December 8 at 9pm... every week for 8 weeks! #NewSeason #KatePlus8 @TLC #SuperExciting
Maybe TLC is going to put her on a 10pm the last four weeks, like they did last January. The Little Couple was on at 9pm followed by Kate plus 8 at 10pm.
Breezy said... 17
Also just saw on Showbuzzdaily the ratings for last night was 955,000
December 9, 2015 at 1:01 PM
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Hmm, the the "premier" garnered < 1 million. Not an auspicious start.
Like I said, I think a lot of people were really looking forward to this season, and I think a good deal of them won't be tuning in for the rest because they're appalled at the kids.
Well, mostly M.
She must have been a pill.
I really can't blame her or any of them, because they've had a revolving door of nannies and babysitters, the divorce of their parent, the fracture of their home, and a life in the spotlight.
Mady needed to get into counseling years ago.
I'm not surprised the ratings continued to drop, even though TLC and Kate worked hard to promote this--lots of commercials, several media appearances, and they even stuck Kate in a bikini on the beach (and made sure to show that in the previews). Still, as I said a couple days ago, the public seems to be getting really bored with the Gosselins. What I really want to see is low the ratings can go in an 8-episode stretch. They have dropped steadily so far, and there's no reason to think that will change.
8 episodes of that crap--what was TLC thinking?
Correction on my previous post. Last January, Kate plus 8 was on at 9pm, followed by My Big Fat Fabulous Life at 10pm.
Anyway, maybe TLC will be moving her to a different day or a different time.
The Duggars have 3 specials airing starting on the Sunday the 13th at 8pm. Maybe they're going to move Kate over to that spot on January 3rd.
I didn't watch the show. But they way you guys are saying how the kids talk to Kate is no surprise.
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not only that, it was the way she was yelling, screaming, berating that Andrea girl. right in her face. I'm shaking my head.
IMO, Kate and the Figure 8 crew know darn well what the trigger points are.
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Every reality tv show needs contention, and it used to be Jon and Kate. Now, it's Kate having a meltdown at every turn, and Mady's unruliness.
Anyone can read the public K+8 FB page, and I don't know if I could leave the house if I were Mady.
She's being sacrificed for ratings.
What's with the stuffed animals? Court ordered? She was accused in court of throwing out stuffed animals that their father gave them. I hope the kids drag them along just to remind her she's being watched.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-throw-away-gifts-jon-children/
What's with the stuffed animals? Court ordered? She was accused in court of throwing out stuffed animals that their father gave them. I hope the kids drag them along just to remind her she's being watched.
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Yeah PJ there was a lot of deja vu damage control she used to always do in the beginning. The spiel about safety while driving was glaringly damage control
8 episodes of that crap--what was TLC thinking?
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Especially over the holidays...
Tucker's Mom (38) said…
…I don't know if I could leave the house if I were Mady.
She's being sacrificed for ratings.
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Agreed! And the ratings are crap, so what does that tell you?
The rating may even be lower next Tuesday due to the Republican Presidential Debate at 9pm on CNN.
@Kate is a twit Also if they're pushing Kate back to 10 pm because of the little couple.That also could effect viewers if the majority of her viewers are teenagers,aside from the Christmas week,all those teens would have to go to bed early due to school and such.
GOP debate vs Kate...she's toast.
I'm not surprised the ratings continued to drop, even though TLC and Kate worked hard to promote this--lots of commercials, several media appearances
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She made media appearances??? when and where?.
Every time I saw her commercial I turned the channel or ignored it ..I bet a lot of people did to.
So Mady yelled at her best friend too? Wow. How embarrassing because you know their class was watching. I know nothing about her interaction with her schoolmates, but that is troubling. What did Kate do?
TLC stinks said... 47
So Mady yelled at her best friend too? Wow. How embarrassing because you know their class was watching. I know nothing about her interaction with her schoolmates, but that is troubling. What did Kate do?
December 9, 2015 at 3:14 PM
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I didn't watch the episode last night, but I did watch the part in Maine where Mady was giving the paddle board instructor lip and couldn't believe it.
I hope Jon is trying to make inroads with a relationship with the twins.
I think in big part what Mady is rebelling against is the loss of Jon in the home. He could always talk to her rationally and address her issues with calm and reason.
Kate is a twit said...(145)
"Oops, forgot the link":
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Kate+Gosselin+touches+down+Brisbane+Airport+cyspWZe6m8Pl.jpg
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I know it's an old pic but it sure is telling. Tired kids, tired staff but there's Kate front and center, huge grin on her face.
Looking at this picture I got a keen sense that it sums up Kate and this whole fiasco quite nicely.
Kate is the "stah" and everyone else is just props, not just including BUT especially her kids.
To me, the quizzical expression on the tup's face as she looks up at her mom says it all.
A perfect example of how a picture is worth a thousand words.
TLC stinks,
Andrea is the helper/Pa/nanny. The friend's name is Marley.
Why do I know these things???????
To me, the quizzical expression on the tup's face as she looks up at her mom says it all.
Exactly.
The little girl was looking at TFW like, what are you doing mommy? Why are you glowing like that? With that big smile? When just two seconds ago you were a raging lunatic?
Also just saw on Showbuzzdaily the ratings for last night was 955,000
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WHOA. I thought she'd at least break 1 million for a seasion premiere. I'm pleasantly surprised.
I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC. It's a different time now but you still need a LITTLE something when it comes to ratings to stay alive.
WHOA. I thought she'd at least break 1 million for a seasion premiere. I'm pleasantly surprised.
I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC. It's a different time now but you still need a LITTLE something when it comes to ratings to stay alive.
December 9, 2015 at 3:54 PM
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It will be interesting to compare to the numbers from the Duggars and Little People.
I'll bet they at least double K+8.
http://radaronline.com/videos/anna-duggar-josh-jill-jessa-counting-on-video/
Jill and Jessa Counting On is going to crush in the numbers. They are pulling out the Josh card big time, with several family members speaking out, including Josh's wife.
That is going to draw the gawking masses.
It probably won't be as big as watching Jon and Kate's marriage implode, replete with wounded children, but it's going to be big.
Sheri said... 49
Kate is the "stah" and everyone else is just props, not just including BUT especially her kids.
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I thought that too. LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! Stand aside everyone SUPERMOM IS HE-EERE!
So glad she didn't know she was going to get pushed off a tall building. At least it wiped that big ol' toothy smirk right off her face for a little while.
Is that Steve in the background with his back to the camera, scanning the crowd for snipers?
Kate herself IMO was never a ratings grabber.
It was Jon and the cute kids and now it's the kids. IMO no one besides Milo wants to see Kate anymore.
Why because they don't respect her on tiny bit. And beside being their mother what has she does to respect them?.
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You are absolutely right that they don't respect her, and that goes back to the fact that she doesn't respect them. She disrespects them, their privacy, their feelings, at every turn and has for years and we've been saying it for years. And to film them throughout this is the ultimate disrespect. The kids may still be a little too young to fully grasp that, but they internalize it even if they don't know what to call what they're feeling. They know darn well they get no respect from her.
And this behavior is a direct result, direct result, of a child receiving no respect from their parent.
With teachers, Jon, friends and others, they may be very nice kids. But they know with Kate they can be this way, so they are. I can't imagine behaving this way is pleasant for them, that they really like behaving this way. Deep down, I suspect it feels very unfulfilling to them, but they're children and not old enough to control themselves without a little help from the adult in charge. That's why they are children and that's why there are parents for them.
I hate to admit this but I rather watch KUWTK than watch Kate.
And TWOS thinks she has KUWTK pull haha people showed her or didn't.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 57
Exactly and in the end Kate only has herself to blame when she end up lonely and alone.
But she going to blame the kids and Jon and her family.
Kate fans need to realized they just because she's their mother that does entitle her to have their respect.
Administrator said (52)…
I find it hard to believe UNDER 1 million is acceptable to TLC
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There are several shows on TLC that get low ratings, but the difference is in the cost to produce those shows. You don't see Jazz or the girl from My Big Fat Fabulous Life or whoever going on constant vacations with a family of 9 plus friends and lots of paid help, plus getting expensive upgrades to their houses, plus a bodyguard, plus a huge paycheck. Kate nickels and dimes TLC to death. Even to the point of having to have new luggage when the kids already had luggage, or air mattresses for everyone just to move bedrooms, or a whole lobster for each kid when she didn't know whether they even liked lobster. She grasps for every last thing she can get on TLC's dime, and it has to add up fast. At some point they have to realize that the return they're getting is not worth all the extra costs. But the question is, what is that point?
Notice on the TLC FB page they posted about the return of the Little Couple. But still nothing about the return of Kate Plus 8. It's almost like they're ashamed of having the show back.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 22h22 hours ago
WE DROVE ON REAL ROADS WITH REAL CARS AND SPEED LIMITS.. That are too fast for golf carts! Cut me a break? @TLC #KatePlus8
Love this tweet from one of Kate's sheeple:
hater hater@BuzzedBunny
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC With your real kids in the carts. I'd be cautious and nervous too !
So I guess if Kate had her fake kids in the carts, she could drive wildly around.
Hey is Kate still doing her cookbook or is that not a thing anymore?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 22h22 hours ago
WE DROVE ON REAL ROADS WITH REAL CARS AND SPEED LIMITS.. That are too fast for golf carts! Cut me a break? @TLC #KatePlus8
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I didn't watch but does she think such vehicles are only unsafe if you're on a real road? The issue is small children driving them, children so young even the manufacturer doesn't recommend it.
It really depends on the community whether there is something very unsafe about being on an actual road. When I lived in a small beach town some years back lots of people had golf carts to get around the neighborhood. It was a thing. It really wasn't a big deal. There was only one accident I ever heard of, and it involved a group of teenagers being really reckless with the golf cart and flipping it. No other cars involved, so that could have happened in someone's back yard or a road, it wouldn't have mattered.
So I guess if Kate had her fake kids in the carts, she could drive wildly around.
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Or if the cameras weren't rolling. I think it's been established that she's a reckless driver with a lead foot.
She's such a liar.
Fishwrapper.com has a new article about the show last night.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
Love thisf line in the article:
"In one of her attempts at humor, Kate said "life's a beach." We think that it's a case of a raging beach projecting some of her own beachiness onto life itself."
wow ...ratings for her premier and she didn't score a million? now that people have seen the sideshow I'm sure she'll lose almost half that audience....does TLC keep filming at those numbers? is it even worth it? this is embarrassing...
A must read - Fish-Wrapper's review of last night's show, "When Will This Nightmare End?" - it's brutal. The review ends "the biblical plague that is Kate herself". (available at TMZ)
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The title of the 3rd show(next week's is Florida Fun) according to TLC's website is "What's Old Is New", but they haven't posted a description yet.
Doesn't that describe all their episodes? Old stuff recycled into new episodes? Maybe this is the episode where Kate takes the kids out for their special days--antique shopping with the twins, magic lessons with the boys and spa time with the girls.
Or maybe they lose Kate and come up with a new mother for those kids.
Well, I watched, or rather, fast-forwarded through the special On Demand. I agree with comments by others. Kate was the same, although she did seem a better weight, but her skin is not great. Loud, bossy shouting, her fake cutesy shrieks, her pretense of organization and control etc all present.Mady was mainly negative, critical, rude and self-centered. Cara was a little more talkative but has a paler version of Mady's temperament. Hannah bored and bossy, Leah loud and complaining, Alexis the odd-girl out, Joel sick while shopping, Aaden seemed fine, Collin looking miserable and tuned-out. Very sad. Big to-do about suitcase shopping. Mady hating beaches yet the kids 'begged' to go to one? Marley the friend as well as Andrea the helper silent. The kids just seem young for their ages, feel entitled to the best, and very rude. Nothing appealing here or even interesting- the Panic Room was kind of neat but couldn't really tell through all the yelling.Ugh.
chefsummer #Leh said... 59
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 57
Exactly and in the end Kate only has herself to blame when she end up lonely and alone.
But she going to blame the kids and Jon and her family.
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I honestly (sorry!) think she won't give a toss. She'll have her nice pile 'o money and Skeve (who's got to be getting more than just a TLC paycheck out of his "association" with her---I mean, beside the boinks), and she'll go happily off to a beach somewhere. That's pretty much all she cares about. Forget what she says about babysitting her g'kids, etc., I don't see it happening. And I think it's true what others have said, I don't think she spends a whole lot of time with her kids even though they happen to live in the same house.
Fishwrapper's back with another story today: http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
Gotta love the last line:
"But nothing really happened. One of her kids was sick one morning, but what's a minor illness compared to the biblical plague that is Kate herself?"
Oh and Kate seems to be trying just a little bit today---yet another photo of Alexis and The Bird. She's so out of tricks it ain't funny.
Kate is a twit said... 66
Fishwrapper.com has a new article about the show last night.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
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haha! Ouch.
*the biblical plague that is Kate herself*. Too funny.
I honestly (sorry!) think she won't give a toss.
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Yes you're correct. I forgot who I was talking about.
Sad but true (#71), I agree that I think TFW will be fine and dandy if everyone splits. She was beating the snot out of those kids when they were at their most adorable -- tiny, wide-eyed, innocent, totally trusting. I don't think she's ever been "into" her
kids beyond what they could do for her -- whether that meant a foot rub when she was tired, or being filmed while vomiting so that Mommy could afford another cosmetic enhancement. They are pawns in
her game. In fact, she might relish a few of them leaving, as it will give her another opportunity to play victim.
Hey, chefsummer and Vanessa, hadn't seen you in a month of Sundays.
I am kind of surprised she did not break a million but it was a very subdued promotion this time around. Maybe TLC realized that this "new" season was a real stinker or maybe they are tired of her demands.
Fishwrapper.com has a new article about the show last night.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
Love thisf line in the article:
"In one of her attempts at humor, Kate said "life's a beach." We think that it's a case of a raging beach projecting some of her own beachiness onto life itself."
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OMG that was awesome
redbird said... 76
Hey, chefsummer and Vanessa, hadn't seen you in a month of Sundays.
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Work has been keep me busy. I still read here love you guys comments.
The thing is, you know Cara and Mady are reading articles like that Fishwrapper one. I wonder what they think...
The thing is, you know Cara and Mady are reading articles like that Fishwrapper one. I wonder what they think...
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Most likely they have been told by their mother that everyone is just jellus.
localyocul said... 80
The thing is, you know Cara and Mady are reading articles like that Fishwrapper one. I wonder what they think...
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The problem, I think, is that Kate projects her "I'm rubber, you're glue" mentality on the kids and sees them as impervious to the derision she's exposed them to.
She feels she's toughened them up- made them wiser- to the world that gawks and paws at them.
Those kids are far from savvy and worldly.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2015/12/09/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-season-four-premiere-florida-beach-trip-unlikable-awful-mom/
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It appears that Simon Delott isn't particularly fond of TFW! I guess he won't volunteer to be on a "Date With Kate" episode!
Now I'm curious to watch it. It's not On Demand on my Fios yet. I am curious to see how the kids really seem
Hey Redbird, have been popping in to read regularly, just not much to say latley:)
localyocul said... 85
Now I'm curious to watch it. It's not On Demand on my Fios yet. I am curious to see how the kids really seem
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localyocul--you can watch it online here. There's no charge to watch.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3dd2yi_kate-plus-8-season-4-episode-1-full-episode-s04e01-schools-out_tv
"I was really looking forward to seeing the kids tonight....OMG....I am so disappointed actually shocked at the way those children act.
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I can imagine.
Remember in the olden days, something really terrible would happen on the show, like Collin being constipated and Kate not caring, and a bunch of sheep would be fleeced and come over to the anti-Gosselin blogs?
I wonder if we're in for another somewhat sizable round of fleecing. I think there are still some casual sheep left who are going to be shaken into reality with the children's behavior and connect it right back to Kate, rightly so. Dust off the membership cards, it could be time to welcome in some newbies.
I think she has the nerve to talk. She was living with different boyfriends at their parents homes before the age of 18 and they were waiting on her hand and foot. Did she sleep in a guest room or in the same room with her boyfriend?
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No, she wasn't. She lived with one boyfriend, according to local reports. His name was Adam, he was 17, had graduated from high school and they met in Kutztown, PA. She was one year older. Kate was a nursing student at the time and she moved into his family home. He broke up with her when she was 21.
If you look at the video of the episode I posted, at approx. 25:29, you can see them walking into the panic room place and Collin is with them. He is never shown again during that whole segment(except for the couch interview, where he doesn't say anything).
Subtract one # -- I did not watch.
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Here comes Milo with the cute animal photos to get Kate's attention. She is soooooo predictable. Can Sandie be far behind in the competition?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago
Fired Up 4 Kate Retweeted Funny Tweets
So if we R going 2b channeling #Cute here ...let's savor this one! For #MissDooLittleLexie
Are the ratings decent ones that will satisfy TLC, or not so good? Will they drop with each subsequent episode? I can't imagine that the network is really happy with not breaking a million, but when you use Kate as filler, that's probably all they've got and they just have to bite the bullet.
@Dmasy been on this website for a couple of months,but i guess Hi to both old viewers and new.
Not a watcher either. I did watch Fargo, the TV show, which I had DVR'd. If I had a top 10 movie list, the movie Fargo would be on it. The television series is pretty close to being as good.
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues. She'll just go along with anything and drag the kids with her, looking at the dollar signs as she flails and shrieks.
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Someone said that in the credits, Deanna was listed as hair & make-up, but when you look at tfw pic on Fishwrapper, her eyebrows are very bushy & messy, too much pencil, plus it looks way too orange on her face. She can keep her make-up minion, I prefer to do my own!
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues. She'll just go along with anything and drag the kids with her, looking at the dollar signs as she flails and shrieks.
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I looked at that place's website. This is the description:
"Can you solve the puzzles necessary, in the escape room, to complete your task before your time has expired? Our escape rooms will challenge your abilities to work as a team, to think outside the box, to pay attention to detail and work under pressure.
Escape Zone 60 is a live, interactive, fun, puzzle solving game where you have 60 minutes to solve the puzzles needed to complete your goal of escaping the room before time is up. No special skills are required, only an interest to succeed and have Fun."
It actually does sound like a lot of fun. It sounds like something I would enjoy doing. But Kate was the one who causing the anxiety. She totally sucked the fun out of. Why couldn't she just let the kids play? She always has to be in the thick of things just to ramp up the dramatics.
BTW, the cost is $30 per player. There was 10 of them playing. Think Kate paid that--yeah, I bet.
Here's the website, for anyone who wants to look at it.
http://escapezone60.com/
And I doubt they completed it with only 2 seconds to go. I'm sure that was thoroughly manipulated to ramp up even more drama.
I feel bad for Collin that he was left out of it, but the way Kate acted, perhaps it was better for him. Maybe he already knew what to expect and opted out of participating. Do I dare hope that it was his decision and not Kate's?
In a way, I'm glad Kate didn't give an explanation. Maybe she was hoping that nobody would notice Collin's absence. I didn't see anyone asking her on twitter why Collin wasn't playing the game. Even eagle-eye Milo didn't say anything.
I've done the escape game thing, it was called The Exit Game I just did it for the first time a couple months ago. It was SO FUN.
It is expensive though. It was a special treat. There were just two of us, and it was actually pretty hard. There were I think four rooms, the first one two jail cells and you couldn't see the other person, and we got out of the first one easily after about 15 minutes, but got stuck on the second. They wanted you to watch the pattern of flickering lights on a very high ceiling and knock on this box to the pattern to open the door. We thought no way in hell is that how you open the door, that's too odd and how would that work, do they have someone standing there? You actually feel the stress of the clock winding down.
Anyway, super fun although we sulked all the way home for not making it out. We were talking about how many people are ideal and we were saying more minds on the life-sized puzzle is probably a good idea. Maybe four people, a double date. However any more than that and I think it's too many people for it to be fun and to feel like you're contributing to solving it.
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About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you.
Thank you, Lanc Native for the correction!
It actually does sound like a lot of fun. It sounds like something I would enjoy doing. But Kate was the one who causing the anxiety. She totally sucked the fun out of. Why couldn't she just let the kids play? She always has to be in the thick of things just to ramp up the dramatics.
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These room escape experiences are popping up everywhere. My family did the Escape the Room in Philly, and it was one of the most fun times we have ever had. There were 6 of us, ranging in age from 23 to 60, and everyone had to work together to figure out the clues and puzzles. The neat thing was that everyone had different aptitudes, and each person contributed something important to helping us escape in time. It was a shared experience in teamwork that we still talk about months later. I highly recommend trying it.
It was a shared experience in teamwork that we still talk about months later. I highly recommend trying it.
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Isn't it fun!
We talked a lot about what it would be good for. For us, the team building exercise was great for our relationship. Especially for the first room, you cannot solve your half of the puzzle without talking to your partner about their half. You felt a really great sense of shared accomplishment when you unlocked the cell. My partner was telling me through the wall good job, you're doing great, keep it up! (I was moving a magnetic ball around--long story lol) It was really sweet and felt awesome.
It would be good for coworkers, or people working on the relationship whatever the relationship is.
Admin - I just read about your experience with a room escape game. I think having just two people would have been incredibly hard. We had six people, and that seemed like the perfect number. One person was very analytical, one was very mechanically inclined, one was mathematical, one was a gamer, one was very logical, and one was the gopher and scribe (yes, that would be me!). We sucked really badly for the first 10 minutes in the room, but then we started to figure things out. And the more we figured out, the more exciting it got! We will definitely be doing another escape game soon.
My partner was telling me through the wall good job, you're doing great, keep it up! (I was moving a magnetic ball around--long story lol) It was really sweet and felt awesome.
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That IS awesome! It is great to hear encouragement and positivity. I can only imagine what a nightmare it would be to have someone like Kate criticizing or barking orders throughout and making what should be a fun time absolutely unbearable.
I hope this comment doesn't post twice, I lost my internet after the first one.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour. No way she did it with a bunch of kids unless it was dumbed down for her. I'll bet those poor kids were locked in that room for hours with her while the cameras rolled.
Why couldn't she just let the kids play?
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Kate competes with her children and then congratulates herself when she beats them.
It's not like a child who wants to play a game with a parent. It's Kate unable to stand back and allow her kids to have all the fun to themselves.
Crushing her kids in competition is another mark of a good parent to her, because it toughens them up, in her warped mind.
I get that you can't let kids win all of the time, but Kate is pure Mommy Dearest, exploiting her advantage in age and size.
If it were me, I'd want to sit back and let my kids to that panic room all alone to see what they could deal with, without me.
Maybe Colin had to accompany everyone to the escape room place, then had to sit it out because it would be too stressful.
With his challenges, that kind of pressure might cause anxiety or even anger.
Sounds like the little guy appeared rather quiet in the episode.
This whole panic room game sounds so anxiety producing, especially for a child who may have even mild issues.
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Friends of ours have done one of these and all they could say was how fun it was. It comes off as this high anxiety thing because it's the Gosselins. You have 4 or more "khates" in a locked room? How else would things go? This is just how things have progressed from simple things like carving pumpkins, using markers, decorating cupcakes to what transpired in that room. Kids learn what they live. I still can't get over Mady though. Dare I say she'll be worse than her mother. I can't get the image of her shrilling in that woman's face out of my head.
I hope this comment doesn't post twice, I lost my internet after the first one.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour. No way she did it with a bunch of kids unless it was dumbed down for her. I'll bet those poor kids were locked in that room for hours with her while the cameras rolled.
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Oh yeah, absolutely thought the same thing. And wouldn't you know it, they figured it out with less than a second to spare! And the smug look on her face during her victory speech was classic narc. She'd expects a standing ovation for wiping her own a$$
Mady screaming "DO AS I SAY!! DO AS I SAY!!! DO THE MATH!! WHAT IS THE ANSWER!!? WHAT IS THE ANSWER!!?"
Classic narc behavior. Gets in a rage, abuses the "victim" verbally demanding they "perform" and of course the victim will be blamed if things go wrong, and the narc will take the credit if things go right.
Friends of ours have done one of these and all they could say was how fun it was. It comes off as this high anxiety thing because it's the Gosselins.
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Excellent point. Going anywhere, doing anything as a group with Mommy along is an exercise in anxiety for them I'm sure. On the other hand it should be old hat to them by now having to live by time clocks and under stress to move quickly to get things done FAST. They do live with Kate after all. Army boot camp would be a breeze for them. They've lived with a demanding drill sergeant all this time.
How long can one woman drone on about rechecking the kids' suitcases?
What's really creepy is, they may very well have done that game again and again until they did genuinely solve it with 2 seconds to spare.
They could've been shooting there for 8 hours.
As far as anxiety, how about adding "oh, plus there's a camera crew there, so if you fail, your
friends and classmates can watch it on TV." You can't tell me all 8 kids were thrilled with that prospect.
Fidosmommy (#110), I think the new expression, instead of something being as boring "as watching paint dry" should be "as boring as rechecking kids' suitcases!"
Virginia Pen Mom, are you out there? Hope things are well.
I vote they filmed the Adventure Room for HOURS.
Radar has picked up the re-release of Robert's book
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-secret-diary-exposed-reality-star-admits-spanking-horrible-mother/photo/1234714/
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localyocul said... 85
Now I'm curious to watch it. It's not On Demand on my Fios yet. I am curious to see how the kids really seem
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3dd2yi_kate-plus-8-season-4-episode-1-full-episode-s04e01-schools-out_tv
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Jane said... 114
Radar has picked up the re-release of Robert's book
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-secret-diary-exposed-reality-star-admits-spanking-horrible-mother/photo/1234714/
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I saw that! In the message I got, I was under the impression that sKate was finally copping to her horrific behaviour, but when I read the article I realized they were printing excerpts from Robert's book. Or should I say sKate's book.
Go Robert!
I don't get why it was made into such a big deal that they finished the room "in time." Even if it wasn't "set up" or "fake" they weren't going to finish it in time so they gave them the hint they needed to finish. They showed that. The hint actually told them what they did wrong and what to do to get the right answer. It plainly TOLD THEM to deduct, not add, the last number. While it's part of the game to get a hint if you're stuck (and they got multiple hints throughout the game) I wouldn't consider that final last minute hint just a hint. It was like the win was essentially given to them. The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team.
That's just how I see it. Maybe everyone gets hints at the last minute like that but to make it seem like they were in this elite 30% seems like a stretch.
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The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team.
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The way Kate talked??? She also said she conquered her fear of heights when she jumped off the building in Skyzone or whatever it was called. She lay in a quivering puddle on the ground afterward but in her mind she conquered it.
Just like she ran a marathon... Bitch, please.
Was Kate holding gift cards for those suitcases? That makes sense because I recall that was how TLC paid for her stuff.
I wonder how the Dilley or McCaughey (sp?) families would have done at that game. Not as far as winning or losing, but as far as family dynamics. I'm sure it would look far different than the Gosselin adventure.
We have those Adventure rooms here and only about 12% of ADULT teams make it through in the hour.
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They have medium and hard rooms at my Escape Game. We did a medium one and although we found the first room went pretty smoothly (we realized right away that each person had enough information on their side of the jail cell to complete the puzzle with the help of the other person's info, so it was just a matter of talking out the clues through the wall), we just couldn't see the way out of the second one. You can ring this buzzer and ask for a hint. We REALLY didn't want to do that but finally when we had 8 minutes left we asked for one knowing we just weren't going to crack it so we might as well.
Unfortunately the hint the guy gave us ended up confusing us more, but oh well, it was a great time anyway.
If you continued to ring and ask for hints, anyone could make it out of there within the hour. We wanted to do it on our own merit. If that's what the Gosselin's did, ask for multiple hints, it does not surprise me they made it through. It's too bad they didn't stick with it and try to do it without that.
If you ask for hints at Escape Game, you are not eligible to be "ranked" on their winner board.
Just like she ran a marathon... Bitch, please.
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And just like she think she's a good mother-ha.
From a blind gossip site:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2015/12/anna-duggar-begs-josh-not-to-leave-her.html
Things that make you say hmmmm....it'll be interesting to see if this is true or not.
Lie: it was not the first time the tups packed. In the couch interview Leah says "she never packs, I mean she does, but typically she needs help."
Vera Bradley backpacks too, oh my!
Poor Collin. He must be medicated or something. So withdrawn. He definitely was shown walking with the group to Escape Zone, then poof..
Very sneaky to have him sit through that couch interview when he did NOT participate.
It would be interesting if one of the kids stopped filming for one reason or another....would TLC try to cover it up like they did with Collin? Could the show go on? After all it is called Kate plus 8 .....not 7...
What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty...
What was with the room assignments? Teens together, fine, Aaden, Joel and Alexis in one room?? Then H and L together as usual on an air mattress- does this mean Collin was with Kate/Andrea? Does he not get along with a single one of the siblings? Wow, poor kid.
Previous comment...Leah was referring to Alexis who does not like to pack.
Who the heck us Kate talking to off camera? That really bugs me. Shouldn't she look at the camera and talk to the audience?
Can't believe she has not cooked Korean BBQ for the kids or even bothered to get the recipe from Jon or his mother. Well, actually I can believe it. I noticed she said Jon is 1/2 Korean which makes "MY" kids 1/4.
Mady did yell at Andrea and I thought Andrea looked exasperated in the Escape Zone room.
The golf cart thing was just plain stoopid. There was hardly any traffic.
No telling how long they filmed on the beach. I doubt it was just two hours per Kate. LOL, Kate got sunburned badly.
My feeling is that Collin should not be filming. I'm no doctor, but that kid is either depressed or medicated. I think Andrea was there primarily to watch him.
I did not catch that Collin was singled out with the room assignments. Something is definitely being covered up.
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all.
The way Kate talked it was like they did it all on their own and accomplished this amazing feat together as a team.
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Kate and the producers/editors are very good at spinning yarns.
I point to the corn maze filming which lasted literally all of 20 minutes, and by the confessional Kate did, you'd have thought they were there alllllllllllllllllllllllll day.
Hours and hours and hours and hours.
Boy, was Kate glad they ate before they went! Implying that they were there for a long time, actually doing the maze.
People have to wake up and realize what's in each episodes is distilled down and carefully edited, including the confessionals, to make a story that is in line with the arc they wish to present.
Each character, including Mady 'the bitch', is portrayed exactly how TLC wants.
I'm beginning to think Joel is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family.
http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoat.html#axzz3tw4jpYVx
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What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty...
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I haven't watched the show yet but by the comments here about Collin it sounds like authorities might have stepped in on his behalf to make sure he isn't subjected to a lot of stressful situations that trigger behavior problems.
That damn Kate. A genuinely concerned mother would say if this is what filming has done to my kids, we won't do it anymore.
Jon saw it coming and got out but Kate's going to push this filming as far and long as she can. She is a horrible person.
JR said... 126
What if a psychologist told Kate that Collin shouldn't film anymore because it was having a negative affect on him? Could Jon take her to court over that? Unless that's happened already and she just doesn't give a shit....no wonder he looked drugged...she had to get him through the filming process....such cruelty...
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When a family is fractured by divorce and it's on tv. When 2 of the kids are subsequently kicked out of school because of bad behavior and it's still on tv. When one child has special needs,is pulled out of his school and sent to another, yet he's still on tv. When teens are going through really bad hormonal ups and downs and it's on tv.
At this point, I don't know what would need to happen for Jon to get any of the kids off tv.
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all.
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I believe so. I commented up thread about her going to great lengths to explain how Joel was feeling quite sick and had a sore back, but gosh darn it!! He did NOT want to miss luggage shopping! yippee!! Everything that comes out of her mouth is calculating, there is always an ulterior motive, classic katespeak
I'm beginning to think Joel is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family.
http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoat.html#axzz3tw4jpYVx
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Sorry, not Joel. Colin
Good to see you, CC!
fidosmommy said... 131
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all.
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Don't have time to go and look it up right now, but iirc, if anyone signed to the show missed X amount of filming, there would be financial penalties.
When I read that, it made total sense about how we saw sick kids still made to film, go on outings and travel.
oh she will film those kids until one has a breakdown....and still continue...very interesting that all of them must report or the contract is broken...I find that fascinating...no wonder she was at Jons window screaming for Hannah to come home....can't have a broken contract 😱!
Vanessa said... 137
I'm beginning to think Joel is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family.
http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoat.html#axzz3tw4jpYVx
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Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target.
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I totally agree- I think it was Joel who was the scapegoat kid to start with( his breathing, Daddy's 'girl,' laundry room 'vomitus' child, globegate) because he reminded Kate of Jon- said in MB that he looked just like him.
But I think Collin now is the one, with issues and being 'imperfect" and a challenge to her authority. She has tried and maybe successfully, to break his spirit by isolating him from the others and her nasty treatment of him. He really looks unhappy, and we see how the other children leave him out and even taunt him. The latest pic on her Twitter shows just the 5 tups doing homework, again no colleen, iirc.
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My feeling is that Collin should not be filming. I'm no doctor, but that kid is either depressed or medicated. I think Andrea was there primarily to watch him.
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That was the gist of those DMs that Em supposedly sent that hater (also Redbirds bully). That there was a child(ren) that needed to be guided and was on behavioral medication. And now EM has not uttered a word about the new season (at least last I checked).
The back to school episode will be telling...as far as Co is concerned. Not that it should be anyone's business but TFW doesn't care about that...
Wow I just read the Radar article where it is just basically quote after quote of her diary confessiong the pulling up by the hair, whipping into the crib, etc.
Each character, including Mady 'the bitch', is portrayed exactly how TLC wants.
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I get what you're saying, they certainly don't edit out any of the awful footage. But sorry, there was no reason nor any possible explanation/excuse for how that went down. And that Andrea girl just took it! That's how bullies/narcs get away with their behavior and abuse, they are permitted to treat people abusively. Her mother was in her own self absorbed zone she could care less. Bet if Jon had witnessed that, there would have been words spoken to her, as any other "normal"parent would have done.I'm betting that Andrea is a victim in many aspects of her private life. She wasn't even flinching or giving off any kind of facial expression. I found that to be very telling.
Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target.
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That is so sad. See, we adults can cut whoever out of our lives. Toxic people have no purpose. Poor children have to endure the abuse. It's awful
Thank you Vanessa for posting what Mady was screaming at Andrea. Mady looked rabid, like a crazed drill sergeant.
Poor Collin. I didn't realize that TFW got sunburned badly.
Also, the picture of her standing on the beach with her looking away from the water, look how off center her belly button is. It looks terrible.
I totally agree- I think it was Joel who was the scapegoat kid to start with( his breathing, Daddy's 'girl,' laundry room 'vomitus' child, globegate) because he reminded Kate of Jon- said in MB that he looked just like him
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Yes, she broke him I think. Now he just goes with whatever, knowing it's best to just DO. He went luggage shopping feeling sick and with a sore back, he was in obvious distress, flinching. But he sucked it up-he out of ALL OF THEM (yes, vomitus boy on the dark laundry room floor) knows there won't be any sympathy.
Vanessa said... 137
I'm beginning to think Joel is the scapegoat in this dysfunctional family.
http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoat.html#axzz3tw4jpYVx
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Sorry, not Joel. Colin
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I've thought that since they were babies. He's got a mind of his own and thwarts her authority. I see she's managed to get around that. Never mind Lord of the Flies in that house. It's more like Game of Thrones.
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fidosmommy said... 131
Someone remind me, please. Did Robert's book report that if ALL of the Gosselins didn't report to filming that the contract was broken? Maybe Collin had to make some kind of appearance at the escape room no matter what or else there would be no show at all.
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Don't have time to go and look it up right now, but iirc, if anyone signed to the show missed X amount of filming, there would be financial penalties.
When I read that, it made total sense about how we saw sick kids still made to film, go on outings and travel
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I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL".
6. Family Incapacity. An event of Family incapacity shall be deemed to occur if Family is unable to fully render services in accordance with the terms of this Agreement, as determined by Company, as the result of any physical, mental or other impairment (e.g. Family’s illness, injury or mental disability; or impairment of Family’s voice, appearance and/ or mobility) (“ Family Incapacity”). Without limiting any other rights of Company under this Agreement, in the event of Family Incapacity, (i) Company shall not be obligated to pay or credit Family with any compensation during such Family Incapacity and (ii) Company shall have the right to suspend this Agreement during such period of Family Incapacity and shall have the right, but not the obligation, to extend this Agreement by the length of any such suspension. … If any Family Incapacity continues for at least seven (7) days in the aggregate, Company shall have the right to terminate this Agreement without any further obligation to Family except for appropriate payment or adjustment with respect to any Family services satisfactorily completed prior to such termination provided that Family is not in breach of this Agreement.
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 5307-5313). . Kindle Edition.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3dd2yi_kate-plus-8-season-4-episode-1-full-episode-s04e01-schools-out_tv
I watched the escape room challenge.
Is Colin the boy on the right of the couch? Whew, so sullen and withdrawn. Could be because he was made to sit there while his brothers explained the task he didn't do.
Very sad looking. Not right at all.
At least the 2 boys who participated looked like they weren't completely elbowed out by their sisters and mother.
Kate just took control, and by control, I saw freaking out, yelling and grabbing.
It's like she truly doesn't see anyone else around her, or realize how her behavior affects others.
They were a hot mess, but I guess that's the point of the exercise.
From what I saw, it's plain to see that they never would have made it out without many clues given to them on the tv screen, especially the last one.
But yeah, Colin...
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About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you
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The previous ratings are:
10th Birthday Special #1 2.359 Million
Special 2 1.901 million
Episode 1 1.795 million
Episode 2 1.321 million
Episode 3 1.732 million
Episode 4 1.440 million
Episode 5 1.444 million
Episode 6 (Mother's Day Special) 1.244 million
3-hour Special 615,000
Epsiode 7 (Mexico) 1.077 million
Episode 8 (11th birthday) 1.034 million
and finally, Tuesday's episode was 955,000.
P.J. said... 118
The way Kate talked??? She also said she conquered her fear of heights when she jumped off the building in Skyzone or whatever it was called. She lay in a quivering puddle on the ground afterward but in her mind she conquered it.
Just like she ran a marathon... Bitch, please.
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Exactly. At the jump, she was totally obnoxious, refusing to either jump or leave. Basically the guy pushed her off. I might have done the same, had I been in his position. I understand that her fear of heights may be real and very debilitating, but then why put herself in that position? With her massive ego fighting with her real fear, she was unable to function.
Calling it a victory was a real stretch. She didn't conquer her fear at all. Do you think she's less afraid of heights now? Not a chance.
I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL".
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There you have it, kids having to work for their supper. The supper they're puking up because they're sick.
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Thank you for that. I sent it to my dd. She was definately her stepmother's scapegoat but since she is in college I think her little half brother is becoming the target.
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That is so sad. See, we adults can cut whoever out of our lives. Toxic people have no purpose. Poor children have to endure the abuse. It's awful
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It is awful. Her sm is a narcissist IMO and she was HORRIBLE to my dd who as a result had anger issues as a teen. No way in hell would I have wanted the stuff she went through broadcast over the airways. Silly us, we just worked through it in a therapist office instead...and she's grown into a compassionate, loving young adult who sees things for what they are and worries about her two younger half siblings.
Collin will be forced to film no matter how harmful it is to him. After all, "Kate Plus 7" doesn't rhyme.
Calling it a victory was a real stretch. She didn't conquer her fear at all. Do you think she's less afraid of heights now? Not a chance.
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Rewriting history to accommodate her fantasies. How do you ever have any type of relationship with a person who lies so easily and distorts the truth? Answer you can't have one.
It is awful. Her sm is a narcissist IMO and she was HORRIBLE to my dd who as a result had anger issues as a teen. No way in hell would I have wanted the stuff she went through broadcast over the airways. Silly us, we just worked through it in a therapist office instead...and she's grown into a compassionate, loving young adult who sees things for what they are and worries about her two younger half siblings.
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Good job:)
Now are her half siblings this narc's biological children? Why does your ex put up wit her?
Collin will be forced to film no matter how harmful it is to him. After all, "Kate Plus 7" doesn't rhyme.
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Bet she wishes it could be just Kate.
I've posted several times about C and J being branded
from the get-go by the opening credits: C was "stubborn," and J was "sneaky." They. Were. Toddlers.
Just watched the show up until the escape room. In the scenes where Colin is sitting next to Kate in the golf cart, he looks lobotomized. That poor child. I wonder if he's getting any professional help or is Kate just shoving pills down his throat.
I can't see how anyone can watch that farce and think that filming should continue and how they can enjoy watching. It flabbergasts me.
Vanessa said... 155
I think this is the part that both of you are referring to. It's in the chapter 10 "A FAMILY UNDER (DISCOVERY’S) CONTROL".
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There you have it, kids having to work for their supper. The supper they're puking up because they're sick.
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Because their "mother" took them out on their fucketybillionth boat ride knowing full well they get seasick and not giving them anything to prevent it
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Anonymous said... 98
(Leslie)
About a year ago, I wrote down all the rating numbers for each Kate Plus 8 episode in the past few years. Well, I have moved and now I cannot find it. Can somebody please tell me what her ratings were for her previous episode. Thank you
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The previous ratings are:
10th Birthday Special #1 2.359 Million
Special 2 1.901 million
Episode 1 1.795 million
Episode 2 1.321 million
Episode 3 1.732 million
Episode 4 1.440 million
Episode 5 1.444 million
Episode 6 (Mother's Day Special) 1.244 million
3-hour Special 615,000
Epsiode 7 (Mexico) 1.077 million
Episode 8 (11th birthday) 1.034 million
and finally, Tuesday's episode was 955,000.
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Bahaha thank you for that
Thank you Kate is a Twit! I thought the penalties of illness were severe. Thanks also to Robert for letting that little kitten out of the bag for all of us to know about how tightly Discovery had families under their control.
I think it's pretty hard to swallow that her ratings will go up after her premier show....I wonder if 600,000 is enough to keep filming ...because that's where I believe she will end up this time..Although Kendra's been consistently at around 600,000 after the trans affair and she hasn't been cancelled.....:yet!!
Had to laugh when I saw this tweet:
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook · 35m35 minutes ago
#TBT @Kateplusmy8 Remember when @Bullyville was a thing?? LOL
I don't think People has mentioned anything about TFW's glorious comeback, have they? But they sure have been consistently covering the Duggars.
AHA looks like RH is saying he's no longer scared of Bullyville so he'll release what he wants hahaha
@Life_And_Style
Parents will be furious when they find out what #KateGosselin did to her children!: bit.ly/1RGRaTc
I think her days of suing anyone are over. My favourite word? Discovery. In more ways than one.
If Collin looks and acts the same in the future episodes, Jon needs to step in, if he has not already. That child is a shell of what he was. Bad enough the way the girls act, but you are right that he is isolated from the others and what's the reason for that? He did indeed look lobotomized on the golf cart and of course she's got him right next to her.
And poor Joel looked absolutely horrible when they went suitcase shopping. Dumb Kate knew the kid was sick before they left the house, but the show must go on. I would never drag a sick kid shopping. She is evil. Did you see the dark circles under his eyes? The kid probably was feeling bad all night.
Thanks for that contract excerpt. Explains it all.
#SaveCollin
I'll tell you one thing, if any of those kids get sick on next week's fishing trip, it was deliberate. Inexcusable for seasickness these days. Get a patch or pills for your kids, Kate.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2015/12/kate-gosselin-admits-to-physically-abusing-her-children-in-shock/
Pretty bad, and far from an isolated incident.
Watch Kate Plus 8 online for more of Gosselin's seriously questionable parenting decisions.
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/kate-gosselin-calls-herself-awful-parent-admits-to-spanking-kids-80235
Kate has yet to speak out about the diaries, but if we were her, we'd hire an excellent crisis manager!
P.J. said... 171
I think her days of suing anyone are over. My favourite word? Discovery. In more ways than one.
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YEP. Perhaps he knows that that is why TFW dropped the lawsuit (which is what I think) and he is betting she won't sue him.
I wonder how RH got Amazon on board to re-sell it though, after they took it down last time.
P.J. said... 171
I think her days of suing anyone are over. My favourite word? Discovery. In more ways than one.
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Depositions! Hours, days and weeks of them.
AHA looks like RH is saying he's no longer scared of Bullyville so he'll release what he wants hahaha
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I think that the days of anyone being sacred of BV are long over.
Dumb Kate knew the kid was sick before they left the house, but the show must go on.
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She does not give 2 flying $#@%# about her kids' health. It's understood that they'll find sympathy in the dictionary between s@$# and syphilis. So easy for her to lie through her teeth how she's Mother Theresa incarnate during her talking head, and even in private with those kid. We SAW how she freaked over the vomit on the comforter. We SAW her put her gravely ill boy on a cold laundry room floor with the lights off. WE SAW bitch. But if mommie dearest even gets a hangnail (or stubs her flintsone toe) her little minions better come running and listen to her moan and groan and do her bidding. She is disgusting. Her soul is black
Well TLC Stinks, one of them for sure gets sick. One of the boys is shown throwing up overboard I believe, in the previews. Yes, deliberate. She will explain it away to those kids when they are adults as "the show must go on" but deep down inside, I believe she enjoys seeing her kids suffer. She enjoys it.
Poor, poor little Collin. I feel so bad for that child. I hate it when they are at the beach, and he is always alone in the water..far away from the rest of the kids, and always too far out. I can just picture in my mind that some day that little fellow will just keep walking, and that will be the end of him. He is so beaten down and sad.
Also, the picture of her standing on the beach with her looking away from the water, look how off center her belly button is. It looks terrible.
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That's not really her fault. It's the result of the tummy tuck. I didn't watch the show, but I've seen pictures, and if it looks that horrible, then you don't rock a bikini...you wear a nice one piece suit.
Oh and in the preview, she's squawking about how she loves LOVES deep sea fishing. me me me, I I I
But guess who has to go along and be tortured? Those kids are going to do whatever mommie dearest LOVES to do
Maybe Robert knows what is going on with Collin and the re-release will start people asking questions because I agree, she does not want a lawsuit and all the can of worms that will open. And TLC needs to make a decision too...finally cut her loose for good or continue the coverup of her abuse.
What were the ratings immediately before the show was cancelled, er, put on hiatus...when the "contest" took place and that infamous Walmart parking lot fiasco was recorded?
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AHA looks like RH is saying he's no longer scared of Bullyville so he'll release what he wants hahaha
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Me too! GO ROBERT!!!!!!!!
Wow, Vanessa. What a manipulative c**t. How will she explain away the seasickness?
Gosh, Gladys, I bet TFW will be "trending" soon --
but for all the wrong reasons. It's about time
for the #1 fan to take her best shot at Robert and Jon about all the lies and exaggerations.
The Escape Room sounds like a living hell on earth for anyone suffering from anxiety attacks if they are locked into a space. I'm not talking about claustrophobia, but rather the fear of not being able to get out of an enclosed space. I could spend a night in a closet, but as long as I know I could get out if I needed to, it wouldn't bother me. I would assume that there are emergency exits in case of a fire and such, but still...
Being locked in would send me into a panic, and the results wouldn't be pretty!
It really seems like Robert's book might get some traction. I think the press grabbed onto the phrase "Kate admits abuse." I think she may need a little PR help. But knowing her Teflon luck, it may just bring her higher numbers Tuesday. Sigh.
Wow, Vanessa. What a manipulative c**t. How will she explain away the seasickness?
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if she were the one to finally up chuck? All over her stringy tresses? In all her glory on TEEVEE? Santa, I would be forever grateful if you gave this gift.
It really seems like Robert's book might get some traction. I think the press grabbed onto the phrase "Kate admits abuse." I think she may need a little PR help. But knowing her Teflon luck, it may just bring her higher numbers Tuesday. Sigh.
*****Here's hoping.
I've yet to read "alleged" anywhere. Or "stolen". Every gossip site I've read has used the words "her diary"
She is disgusting. Her soul is black. 180
What soul? She sold it to TLC years ago.
It looks like Kate is flopping guys,is this enough to get her cancelled?
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-plus-8-season-premiere-ratings-drop/
I haven't always agreed with Robert's tactics, but it appears he's getting some good advice from someone. The timing of this is perfect. They are a ton of people who never read the book. And he's been a champion of Collin.
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Poor, poor little Collin. I feel so bad for that child. I hate it when they are at the beach, and he is always alone in the water..far away from the rest of the kids, and always too far out. I can just picture in my mind that some day that little fellow will just keep walking, and that will be the end of him. He is so beaten down and sad.
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Finally, someone said it. That child looks so drained, hopeless, SAD.
I PRAY that nothing happens like that to the G kids, but if it did, TFW would negotiate a big payday for the filming. A "friend" would start a GoFundMe for TFW. She would start a church tour selling not 20 dollar but 25 dollar pictures of her and 7 kids. She would get the appearance fee, the picture money and a Love Offering at the end of the performance. And she will receive sympathy cards in the mail, many with cash.
She won't get cancelled, just not renewed for any more specials. Unfortunately, her ratings would have to sink incredibly low or there's a scandal that they have to walk away from. Here's this, though:
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/08/jim-bob-duggar-in-bed-with-tlc-network
However, even though the Facebook group No More Duggars is reporting that almost 900 companies and brands will not advertise on the show, TLC has no plans to ditch the Duggars. Is there a connection between the head of the Duggar clan, Jim Bob Duggar, and TLC that is preventing the network from walking away from the scandal-ridden family? Or is the network just missing the cash the Duggars brought i
Read more at http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/08/jim-bob-duggar-in-bed-with-tlc-network#VtfST2e2rjgv815H.99
I agree about Collin; medicated, depressed or both. Why is he separated from the others? His face was so blank. We are not the only ones to notice the child is in trouble.
@TLC stinks Oh i agree both Kate and the duggars have to have something over TLC's heads if they still move foward with both shows.Which i don't think anyone would be shocked.Maybe there is more people on TLC crew thats like Bill Blankinship or maybe something.I don't know,it just doesn't add up to me.
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