Friday, April 24, 2015

Recap: Celebrity Apprentice Episode 8 the finale

It's time for the Apprentice finale with a live audience. The announcer sounds half bored and not at all impressed that this will be live. Over at ABC their announcer always sounds like he's about to stroke out whenever they dare to go live he's so excited about it.

Four flipping degrees outside? #yeahthatswhyimoved

There's Trump's kid Barron, his youngest. He must be about eight. He is such a good looking kid like all the Trump kids. He looks like a walking advertisement for the Hamptons. Trump is quite the eccentric, but in the spawn department he really did well.

Trump emerges from some cheap sliding doors like he just got a makeover. I think they borrowed those from The Biggest Loser. No makeover this time, he looks exactly the same though less orange when it's live.

He joins Ivanka and Trump Jr. at the boardroom table and starts talking about how wonderfully amazing the show is, giving himself credit for it all.  This is such good bad T.V.

As is usual for the live finale we will be skipping back and forth to the not-so-live final challenge in Florida. Recall from last time, Leeza and Geraldo were in the midst of making promotional packages for Universal Studios.

Last week I ran into a friend of mine who lives in the Hollywood Hills and she mentioned that the daughter of a friend of hers babysits for none other than crazy I-an! I mentioned crazy I-an was kind of crazy on Celebrity Apprentice but that I thought it might be just a character he was playing for more screen time and just because he can. She immediately agreed and said he's, according to her friend, completely normal and very nice, treats her daughter well and is not crazy at all. Well, that's a seriously gigantic relief.

They do a long recap of what happened last time. See my previous recap, hehe! Olivia Newton-John's accent is so lovely. I call it Australian elegance. Leeza can get away with saying she's going to win because she's actually going to. When Kate has said nonsense like that in the past it's just embarrassing. I like that two entertainment journalists are the finalists. It seems more fun when they're both sort of from the same world. I can't even imagine how inept Kate would be at this final task.

We pick up with Geraldo where we last left off. Recall he's using some child actors who were somehow misplaced, like you might lose your keys. They're still fumbling around trying to sort this all out. Lorenzo is trying to explain to Geraldo they have very limited time to do a great number of things and really need to haul it. Geraldo doesn't seem to care and calls this marching to a different beat. I call it Lorenzo understanding what a tight production schedule is. Geraldo takes over Lorenzo's duties because he thinks there can be only one captain of the ship. True, but shouldn't it be the person who knows what they're doing? Like Lorenzo. By the way Lorenzo was doing great, naturally, and can pretty much just shake his head at this point. They round up the kids and start filming some little spots. Geraldo's not very good with the kids, telling them things like "don't rest on your laurels." What the hell kid knows what that means? What the hell adult knows what that means for that matter! I know someone who has chosen to work with kids who talks like that. I scratch my head every day wondering if they realize how bad they are with kids. Kids don't know what you're saying, and that's not how you build rapport.

Over at Leeza's team they're at the cool Harry Potter section, where they're blocking out a scene for their commercial about an uptight dad.

Leeza forgot to account for Kevin Jonas who is attracting a bunch of fans ogling at him, which is starting to get in the way of production. Jonas brother saves the day though and asks his fans to please move along, and they do, just like little Jonas sheeple. I guess I have to admit that Jonas brother is doing a decent job directing the commercial. It looks like he is just systematically getting everything organized and shooting the shots they planned. The reality is under these time constraints it's more important that you get all the footage you need rather than it's an Oscar worthy performance. He understands that and he's delivering for Leeza. Good for him. Leeza goes on ahead to start editing and trusts Jonas brother to finish the last few shots. This makes Jonas brother and his huge head feel very good. But that's the thing, Leeza understands what makes somebody difficult to work with like Jonas brother become somebody easy to work with. In other words, she is a good manager who can manage anyone and play to their strengths. This is why she is a far superior choice as the winner, there is no close call this season whatsoever.

Back at Geraldo's team, Geraldo announces that as soon as Lorenzo just accepted Geraldo is in charge things went so much smoother. For Geraldo I guess. The truth is Lorenzo very reluctantly let him be in charge only because he's the boss, and Lorenzo thinks Geraldo's going to screw this whole thing up if he doesn't want to put his ego aside for one moment and trust somebody who knows what they are doing like Leeza trusts Jonas brother. Lorenzo is right, Geraldo is wrong, but this time Lorenzo doesn't have a dog in this fight so it's not worth trying to stop this clusterfuck.

Geraldo calls himself iconic, and I love that the producers let us hear the sound from the live studio audience, because they burst out laughing. They're laughing at you Geraldo. Lol.

Lorenzo says Geraldo is a pain in the ass, lol, but admits his energy is pretty endless. Yeah, I've noticed that with many celebs. I think your energy level has to be that high if you want to make it in this business, because so much of your success depends on whether you can outwork that other person who wants the role. That's why you always hear bizarro workaholic stories about how people like Meryl Streep sold all her personal belongings and went to go live in Poland for six months where she wandered the streets of Krakow every day eating sauerkraut sandwiches and making idle conversation with the locals until she had the accent perfected. I don't know if she did exactly that but I'm sure it was close enough, and you get my point.


Ah, the great Joan Rivers. I miss her midas touch on this live finale already.

The child actors are cute I guess, but Geraldo as Harry Potter is so creepy just as expected. Geraldo drinking butter beer dressed as Harry Potter comes across like the beginning of a really kinky porno. It's just not good.

Just before commercial break they show us the live backstage area where the has-been contestants are waiting. Kate is making duck lips while Terrell takes a selfie of them. Oh, Doofus, duck lips are so 2013. Also I love that she is so chummy with deadbeat dad of the year. He himself admits he can't be bothered to see his children because he's too busy. I think she's just ignorant (due to laziness), both to his history of treating his four baby mamas and their children like absolute crap, and to why it would be hypocritical of her to be so buddy-buddy with someone like him. Kate is so darn lazy she can't even bother to read the Wikipedia entries on her fellow contestants. Smart contestants going on this show do their research on their competition to try to find out where their opponents strengths and weaknesses are, as well as figure out who they should associate, and not associate with. I remember hearing somewhere, maybe it was in her documentary, that when Joan Rivers was on this show she had a gigantic three ringed notebook filled with information on the competition. Naturally, she won her season.

We're back! Trump introduces his family, and they show Barron again next to his mom. Melania looks really ticked off about something. At first I thought she didn't realize the cameras were on her and was just bored, but then when he says her name she must know yet she still can't barely manage the tiniest of smiles and won't even clap when everyone else around her is. Haha, Trump's in the dog house. Probably drank straight from the milk carton again.

Whoosh, and we're back to Florida again. For some reason I just pictured those cool Indiana Jones maps from the movies with a little bi-plane going down from New York to Florida. What business Indiana Jones would have in Florida I don't know.

Geraldo begins editing his commercial, and mercifully he's letting Lorenzo and the other two figure that out. Thank goodness. He works the phones to get his entertainment lined up, Tony Orlando. He is very moved that Tony is going to help him out, especially since Tony has a disabled sister.

Speaking for my generation, with all due respect to Leeza and Geraldo, I don't know who Tony Orlando is and the only reason I know who Olivia Newton-John is, is because Grease made a very small, very brief comeback when I was a kid (anyone remember it being re-released and going to see it?), and also because of a complete coincidence, I know a few of her friends. I just don't know that this sort of entertainment is going to interest anyone under 40.

Back at Leeza's team, she's leading the editing. Brandi and Jonas brother return from filming and they've brought churros! Churros!  By the way, have you seen these?



Yes, that is a churro ice cream sandwich. It speaks for itself; nothing more need be said about that.

I respect that Jonas brother is really trying to help Leeza make this the best that it can be. He doesn't have to work so hard on something of little consequence to him. I like him a teeny, tiny bit better than I used to.

Ian ends up really liking Geraldo's commercial, but says it's all about Geraldo. He wouldn't have done it that way. I agree with him, that was the wrong approach. It's awkward and self-serving, and the Harry Potter thing really doesn't work. Like, borderline weird porno really doesn't work.

Leeza's happy with her commercial too, she thinks it's upbeat. Brandi reports Brandi's raised $17,000, so that's a good start and not bad for a reality star. Leeza's worried though about Geraldo's fundraising. I think she should just not vex herself about that. Geraldo will always beat her on fundraising, there's nothing she can do about it. Better to focus her efforts on all the other things that she can do better.

Back in the studio in New York, it's time to bring out the losing celebs, woo hoo! They come out in order of being fired. We have Keisha, Gilbert, Jamie, the true deadbeat dad Terrell, Kate, who is dressed appropriately in what I would call a nude-gold sheath dress, and crazy Kenya Moore.

On a side note, there was a time when Kate dressed completely inappropriately, remember those days? I'm always going to be curious who or what made her stop that nonsense and start dressing her age. Because you don't go just like that from looking like a two bit hooker at the Reading Amtrak station to someone about to give a Ted Talk on overcoming adversity. Trump introduces her as American's most famous mom. I almost gasp until he adds, of eight. Lol, well sure, that's true. I like that he doesn't describe her as a reality star or anything like that. His description is accurate, she is a famous, or rather infamous, mom of eight. That's all she ever was, and apparently all she ever will be. Suck it, Kate.

Heh, Trump asks Kenya if she is a nice person. Can I answer that? No, she's a thief and a pathological liar. Trump certainly has no problem being blunt, so how come he won't ask Kate if she's a nice person?

Commercials! In New York, Trump has over the commercial break become "America's boss." Wow, guess we'll all be punching in with him on Monday.

Back in Florida, I don't know what is happening, but there appears to be some kind of red carpet event where you're standing in line. Geraldo says he can still get it up. Ew. I hate when old people make sex jokes. Just no.

Some rich people are sort of gathered in a big room with a few tables around, some posters, and a bunch of those weird aliens from Despicable Me who look like giant yellow horse pills with eyes. I guess they are collecting money because Geraldo and Leeza are suddenly shouting out donation numbers as people hand them checks. It seems to me Geraldo has an unfair advantage bringing in all his friends from Fox, it's all big business rich Republicans!

A limo pulls up and the soundtrack is some over the top Prince Valiant's coronation type thing with trumpets and snare drums as Trump steps out of the car. Trump is too much. You know he picked that music. The Transformers introduce Leeza and Geraldo. Those movies are so stupid, and somebody in post production turned up the yellows and blues on them so high you feel like you need sunglasses just to make it through.

Also I can never see a transformer without remembering the jingle from their old cartoon from the 80's. "Transformers: Robots in disguise! Buh-bum!!" No woman my age didn't have a bunch of guy friends or a brother our ages who, back in the day, couldn't be torn away from their T.V.'s between the hour of 8:30 and 9 on a Saturday morning because of "Transformers: Robots in disguise! Transformers: More than meets the eye!" (Wow, that's like Milo-level poetry.) In googling the show to see what is out there about it, I see they've done a reboot of it that just started this year. Oh, please no. Another generation of boys sucked into that useless vortex. Even if the new movies were any good, which they're not, I don't think I could like them anyway due to that jingle stuck in my head for thirty years.

Geraldo is stumbling all over everyone's names and occupations. Wait, is he sloshed? The other contestants look like they're asking themselves the same question. He correctly calls Ian I-an, but says I-an Zerling. Okay, John Travolta.

"Thanks so much for that, Geraldo-doe," Ian quips. Haha, funny. Like pig latin. You can tell I-an's pissed as hell somebody would dare insult his ego by flubbing his name, especially Geraldo. I-an has daggers in his eyes. Bit scary.

Leeza thinks Geraldo's commercial is professional but too Geraldo heavy. Yes. Some of the execs seem to like it. No one has said this, but I also think the concept of kids going off to one part of the park to enjoy something while the parents go off to enjoy another is a little odd. Most families are not going to spend that much money to happily leave their kids to go frolic off at the other end of the park. Usually families are here on vacation, and they want to enjoy the experience with the kids. Maybe when they're older.

I still don't know who Tony Orlando is, but he shares an inspiring story about his sister who has cerebral palsy and is "mentally retarded." I remember some people on here insisting awhile back that term is no longer acceptable, but I can attest that acceptable or not, the term is still in heavy use among medical professionals, social workers and even by families of those with mental disabilities, as evidenced here when Tony says it.

The Willowbrook mental institution story is a tragic one, but it's also been almost thirty years since they closed their doors forever. I've never understood why Geraldo keeps referring to Willowbrook like he just got it shut down or something. In fact there's been so much de-institutionalization since the 80's, some people who maybe actually need a more formal setting have been turned to the streets and dangerous and even deadly incidents have resulted. Mental health in this country is a controversial issue that's for sure, but Geraldo even being a journalist never really goes any deeper than his tag lines about it.

Leeza is probably one of the best public speakers I've ever seen. She breezes through her presentation. She's so good. Oh, don't tell Donald he changed your life, that just encourages him. I think her commercial is so much better, it has a story with a beginning, middle and end, about an overbearing and too organized dad. It has just the right touch of Leeza, with Leeza doing the voiceover. "Fun is your only agenda" is a good tagline and modern.

Leeza shows a wonderful photo of her hugging her mom. Aw. She speaks eloquently about how tragic Alzheimer's is. Leeza thanks Trump for giving her a platform for her charity. There is nothing insincere about this lovely woman and her cause. She believes in what she's doing mind, body and soul.

There's the dated entertainment Olivia Newton-John, but at least she sings a song "everybody knows" except me I guess, "Magic." Seriously, never heard of it. Vivica gets the live audience laughing when she says she has a girl crush on Olivia. Who doesn't? I don't much know her songs but even I have to admit there's something about her that is very crushable. Commercials.

We're back, and oh, no, I guess Trump must have flubbed Kiesha Knight's name earlier and feels he needs to correct it. What, did he say Kuh-Night or something? Oh, I guess he flubbed her other last name nobody knows or ever calls her by. Who cares. Trump cuts her off as she tries to thank him for helping her charity, lol, to shamelessly plug Miss Universe. Ha, Miss Universe drops an anvil hint she wants to be on next season's Apprentice, lol. There's a next season? Woo-hoo!

It's boardroom time, and because Lorenzo is a gentleman he starts saying Geraldo did a great job. Trump brings up that Geraldo flubbed all over introducing Lorenzo. Remember that was during that part where I was wondering if Geraldo might be drunk. Awkward.

Lol, I-an finally gives up and is like whatever just call me Ian (E-an). Ha, that's great. Sometimes it's just not worth having a name like that and he finally reached that point. We did a great job, blah blah, says Vivica. Geraldo is driven. Well, so are most celebs and most of this cast except Terrell, Kate and maybe Shawn. Ha, Geraldo has a conspiracy theory Trump intentionally put Ian and Lorenzo on his team to screw with him. It's no conspiracy theory, Geraldo. It's just ratings.

Brandi is gracious as usual and explains why Leeza is the greatest, which she is. Kevin did a great job too, I reluctantly have to concede. Kevin has developed a lisp between now and the last time we saw him. Odd.

I get bored with Geraldo and Leeza going on about how they won even though they have no problem with their opponents. I notice that Leeza's boobs look pretty natural for her age, I don't think she's had any work done. Then I feel weird staring at her boobs, lol. But it really catches your eye when a celeb is so real! Forgive my boob ogling.

The exec's thought it was a good idea to have Geraldo as the celebrity endorsement. They did? I thought that whole thing was strange. Ivanka is either really sick or trying to sound sultry. I'm not sure which. The executives had exactly the same issue I had with the commercial, wow. They said it was weird to have the children and adults separate at the park when the park is supposed to be about family! Right?

The exec's loved Leeza's voiceover and presentation. They loved Olivia Newton-John, surprisingly, though I think they're her demographic, so. They wanted more celebrity in the video? I would have thought relying too heavily on celebrity endorsements is not very creative. It's the easy way out. If I were doing this final task I wouldn't risk falling back on something that easy, I'd be afraid of being accused of not thinking outside the box. They also weren't exactly crazy about the uptight dad story either. I must not know anything because I thought her commercial was great. Oh well.

I almost forgot Kate was even here until I see a tiny portion of her body sitting next to Kenya, the one the closeup shot is on as we cut to commercial. Lol. Ego crushed! Leeza actually ended up raising a lot more than Geraldo, more than $300,000 or something. Wow, Geraldo barely tried or has exhausted his donors or something. If I were Leeza I would never have thought 300k was enough to beat him. Lucky her.

The other contestants come out to the live show. Haha, Brandi is a Real Housewives "sensation"! Lol, suck it, Kate. I just love when Brandi gets much better introductions or descriptions than Kate just because she's most comparable to Kate. No offense meant to Brandi.

Lorenzo is a god. That is all.

Yeah, let's revisit the phone-gate thing, bring it on. That was pretty wild. Lol, the audience is laughing throughout most of it. It was terribly funny as badly as I felt for Vivica. I loved her "low-down dirty bird" comment. That was great.

You're kidding, Kenya is still denying she ever stole the phone. I want to put her on trial Game of Thrones style with a panel of three judges who hate her and she's only allowed to ask one question the whole proceeding. That would be good justice for the shitty thing she did to Vivica.


"I did not take Vivica's phone, but I wish I had!!"

This is the one time I don't mind Kate's over the top smug faces she's making in the background. Kenya really is ridiculous and pretty much everyone at home is making similar faces. Trump believes Kenya's lies why?

Brandi looks just gorgeous tonight. She's got a bunch of hair extensions but they look good. Brandi says what anyone who knows how to play Clue would say, it has to be either Kenya or her makeup artist, as they were the only people with access to the library. Er, war room  Well, I'm sorry if that pisses Kenya off but it's true, there's not a lot of other suspects. It's not the boys, no man would tweet something so catty, they don't have it in them even if they wanted to.

Trump does a funny montage with Gilbert Gottfried. He totally is a love him or hate him guy, lol. He's hit and miss with me, but I did think his "mein fuhrer" comment to Trump was pretty funny even if it didn't much make sense. Much of what that man says doesn't quite make sense.

Gilbert says he gave up because he's going through menopause. Ha, that's sort of a clever tie in with Vivica, nice.

Geraldo and Leeza finally join the live show and take a seat at the table. Trump is surprised Leeza made it this far? Wtf? I think most people saw within about ten minutes of this show she would be in the final two, she was that good. I don't know what took Trump so long. You can tell Leeza thinks that's a ridiculous comment but since Leeza has the self-control of a jungle cat stalking her prey, she politely says she's happy to surprise him. 

They do a montage of how hard Geraldo is to work with, lol. Kate had made a rather helpful comment during this, that Geraldo was like a snowball growing so big until he's out of control. That's not a bad description of him. It's like if you don't rein him in right away when he's just a snowflake, he's quickly off to Never-Never Land again and you'll never bring him back.  I forgot the way Geraldo was all Brian Williams-y on this show claiming he was shot at, knifed and stuff. 



Lol, Jonas brother hated him. That was so funny, especially Jonas brother's five second rule that didn't have to do with dropping food on the floor but rather, apparently, when you're allowed to interrupt a conversation. Lol. Trump says maybe he shouldn't have fired Jonas brother. Well, let's not go that far, Trump.  

Haha, Brandi says she adores Geraldo because she never had to work with him, but she wants Leeza to win. Johnny and Jonas brother want Leeza to win too.

It's not rocket science why Leeza is a good manager and did well in this game. She explains she avoids the drama and stays focused. There's no special secret to it, but those two things are surprisingly very hard for many people.

Leeza's Care Connection, which is located in a Los Angeles hospital, is a lovely carved out space for caregiver support groups to meet. Some of the caregivers are filmed hanging out with Leeza and Leeza tells them she's going to be able to open another Care Connection in her hometown in South Carolina. I'm crying. She just hopes she's been as courageous as her mom and done her proud. You have, Leeza. You have.

Okay Geraldo, top that. Hehe.

Geraldo goes to some care center for those with autism and other developmentally disabled. He really can't say autistic. Gah, it's not artistic, it's autistic, Geraldo. No R. I guess it's kind of touching how proud Geraldo is of his story on Willowbrook back in the day. He finally admits it was four decades ago. Some of the residents are painting. All the paintings are really vibrant and awesome, I want one! This center seems very welcoming and peaceful, almost like a laid back community college. Very nice.

Geraldo blathers around and around for a long time about how this is the way we should treat the mentally ill. Alternative care is great I'm not against that, but it needs to be understood it won't work for everyone, and that some people need a more restrictive setting. I don't find it helpful to our national mental health crisis to act as if Geraldo here has found the simple solution. Some patients could sadly not function in that group art class, but for those who can, this place is great.

Oh great, Twitter questions! Haha, just kidding, this is super boring. Don't quit until you succeed (Or you could quit things you suck at and just do what you're good at, says Malcom Gladwell.) Hit targets. Vivica thinks it's fine she quit because the two finalists were the best.

Does anyone have any questions for Kate? Bueller? Bueller? No takers? Lol, she hasn't said a word this entire episode. It's like she's not even here.

Melissa Rivers comes out to a standing ovation. That's nice. Melissa has kind of weird gestures and body language, I've noticed. Even though she's very petite, she moves like one might if they were way too tall, sort of awkward and hunched. Melissa was an integral part of the greatest Apprentice shit show firing in their history and I don't think I will ever forget the image of her cursing and hobbling around in that boot "bitch-whore!," so I thank her for the laughs when it comes to that.

Finally a nice tribute to Joan with inspirational music and Joan just being Joan the legend that she is. Sinbad, a comedian who was pretty popular in the 90's, says she took the time to let him know she thought he was funny, and that it meant the world to him.

For all of Joan's reliance on jokes at the expense of others and her cutthroat work ethic, story after story demonstrates that it was all just part of her act, and that she loved and loved her fellow man, and then loved some more. She especially was supportive of people's aspirations whatever that was, she handed out praise freely when it was due, and she gave and gave to charity. AIDS charities held a special place in her heart, because the epidemic personally touched dear friends of hers many times. She will be missed.

Kenya, who should win? America, does anyone care what Kenya thinks? Didn't think so. Kenya, the expression is not "that speaks loudly." The expression is, "that speaks volumes." #Dolt.

Of course Kate wants Geraldo to win even though she admits she worked with Leeza equally. Leeza, recall, helped Kate WIN when Kate was PM and screwing everything up. But that sort of "debt" means nothing to Kate even though most normal well-socialized people would just say Leeza after what she did to save her, whether you really believe it or not.

Ironically, Kate appreciates that Geraldo called a spade a spade. Of course don't call Kate the garden tool that she is or she freaks out. Ironically, Kate probably doesn't want Leeza to win because it was obvious Leeza saw right through her and correctly wrote her off as dead weight from day one. If there is one thing Kate is aware of is when the jig is up on pulling the wool over someone else's eyes. She knows.

Only Kenya, Kate and Gilbert want Geraldo to win, hehe. Kate is too stubborn to just fly under the radar, not be an asshat, and go with the overwhelming majority who want the correct choice, Leeza.

Leeza is "high functioning" Geraldo says, and doesn't understand why the audience is laughing. People like him often don't understand why the laughter, hehe. Leeza's like uh, thanks for that. I think? "High functioning," lol.

What is Geraldo even talking about? He flutters around in circles, squares, and triangles until Trump finally cuts him off. Geez, no offense but I'd hate to be his kid. He's the type of dad who will lecture you for an hour about how when he was a kid, what he did, what he didn't do, what he should have done, what his dad was like, how times were different, how times were the same, blah-blah-blah, when all you really need to hear from him is "Honey, just don't forget your homework again, okay?"

Leeza won the final task, woo-hoo. That bodes well for the big win. Leeza thinks she should win because she had integrity and played a smart game, and has never been called back in the boardroom. Plus she has a shit ton of wins and very few losses. She once even saved Geraldo's ass. She saved Kate's too, and others, though that's not as relevant. I like when she speaks for the simple fact that I can understand what she's saying. I took that for granted how nice that is this season.

Trump confirms NBC will renew Apprentice. Happy happy joy joy!!!

Ivanka was impressed with Geraldo's fund-raising abilities, and Leeza's quiet grace and elegance. She likes both candidates. Trump Jr. liked them both too.

As for Trump he thinks Geraldo is smart (eh, that's debatable) and good at raising money. Leeza led with kindness. Trump is still trying to wrap his mind around that leadership style. You can tell he finds it perplexing. In the end though he picks who most people wanted, Leeza!!! Yeah!

Confetti everywhere. Some sound guy forgot to turn off the mics near the confetti machines and so all you hear the last 30 seconds is "shhhwoooooosh!!!!!!" as the confetti pours out. Hehe. Everybody is hugging and Brandi is so cutely excited for her BFF. Kate finally comes over and Leeza says "thanks for nothing, bitch." Haha, just kidding. I wish. Instead Leeza goes in for a polite hug but, oh shit! Kate totally burns her and just before the hug can happen points Leeza over to her hubby off to the side to go hug him. What the f just happened??? I think that was a hug burn! Cold!!!

Kate said one thing this whole episode, not counting the one thing she said in an old clip. Haha, karma, doofus.

Well, it's been a grand time everyone. These long episodes were at times challenging to recap but always fun. I love television, I'm not ashamed to say that. I love good television, of which there is a lot of good T.V. right now, but I also love guilty pleasure T.V. like this, especially when it's done well, as this is.

Some shows are just shows, but Apprentice sort of means a bit more to me than most shows, because I remember when it was a gigantic hit when I was a first year in law school, back in the Omarosa days, and I was studying all the time or in class all the time or stressed out all the time and had very little time for T.V. One of my professors, kind as she was, had our whole class over to her house for dinner and to watch The Apprentice. Mind you this is like 80 people in a class, because most law school classes are about 80 people. We all showed up. She had a pretty big house and backyard and we all managed to fit pretty comfortably actually. I realize now she wasn't just doing it to be hospitable to her new crop of students, but also she did it to give us an evening to relax without fear somebody else in the class was home studying and we were falling behind somebody else by allowing ourselves one night off. If you haven't heard, your first year of law school plays all kinds of paranoid head games like that with you; oh it's fun.

Anyway, we really had a great time watching Apprentice together, laughing, joking and discussing it. It was a few hours out of our busy lives where we could just relax a little bit and not worry so much about grades and exams and what the future held. Television brings people together sometimes, as cheesy as that sounds. It can relax you and make you more open with people who maybe you don't know that well, or are the competition, or what have you. Watching this show that night with my classmates calmed me a bit, gave me perspective, and made me realize it's important to allow yourself to have "guilty pleasure" moments like this no matter how crazy life gets. Thank you, Trump, and I hope you do get another season. It's well deserved.

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P.J. said...

Sleepless in Seattle said...

There's a world of difference between Kate and Mrs. Willis. That said, I just hope that this doesn't go to their heads and they don't go the same route as Kate with the greed, grifting and fame-seeking.

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I doubt they'll go that route. They have something to offer the world. They have talent. They are interesting in an intellectual way, not like monkeys in a zoo kind of way.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

It looks like Kate hasn't tweeted Gladys for a few weeks. What's the Chief Ewe to do? Nothing is working, so she's tweeting cute baby photos in lieu of cute baby animal photos. Kate is not even acknowledging Milo's new role as a town crier. Poor Milo, rejected and dejected!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I doubt I'll watch this Willis reality show, it doesn't interest me. But I do appreciate that at least it's a reality show about people for what they DO, their accomplishments, and not so much for who they are.

For instance, a reality show because you were born a HOM, or born a little person, is more about who you are, and that's rather shallow. As well as certainly old, unoriginal, tired, boring. A reality show though that is in large part about your personal talents and hard work to foster those gifts, about your accomplishments that you did not achieve by pure chance, would conceivably be something of much more substance. This is more of a documentary style of storytelling and less simple "look at the freak show" filler. We'll see how this goes, but the potential is there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

One other note about Willis, it seems to me it is much better that a child, or for that matter even an adult, receive accolades for what they do rather than who they are.

I generally think it's not a good idea for people to be told they are wonderful (by anyone but close family) just because they are who they are. Like a child born into royalty, or the child of someone really famous.

That's where that comment from Mady comes in and it's right to point that out. The child sees reality as the quick and easy way to praise, attention, money. It makes sense she sees it that way. Mady has never gotten attention on her reality show for an accomplishment. Mady gets attention for who she IS. And the more outrageous she acts the more the interest goes up. That cannot be good for a young adult whatsoever.

There is no incentive for Mady to foster talents and gifts or work hard. There is no incentive to conform herself to social norms, be gracious and develop good social skills and healthy relationships with her mother, father and siblings. Those things are not rewarded on her reality show. Dysfunction is the order of the day.

TLC stinks said...

I dunno. Money changes people. Kate and Jon seemed like nice people in the beginning.

Tucker's Mom said...

For instance, a reality show because you were born a HOM, or born a little person, is more about who you are, and that's rather shallow. As well as certainly old, unoriginal, tired, boring.
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It's also carnival barking. They're akin to side shows. Look at the oddities!! Come and see!! Come ogle them as they live under glass!!

Tucker's Mom said...

This is more of a documentary style of storytelling and less simple "look at the freak show" filler. We'll see how this goes, but the potential is there.
May 6, 2015 at 10:15 PM
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I think a good difference would be a family with a lot of kids that really have a story to tell, and something to offer.
As opposed to a woman who claims she NEEDS to be on tv to support her family, who can't do anything else at all, and still provide.
The basic premise of the Willis Clan is a more acceptable one, IF the parents have a solid game plan about what they want out of doing a show, how long it should last, and most of all, what their BOUNDARIES are when it comes to their privacy.
If they can manage to do the show and not morph into something unrecognizable, and the children's individual development (on every level) isn't altered for the sake of filming, then it might might be a different story than the Gosselins.

Tucker's Mom said...

P.J. said... 1
Sleepless in Seattle said...

There's a world of difference between Kate and Mrs. Willis. That said, I just hope that this doesn't go to their heads and they don't go the same route as Kate with the greed, grifting and fame-seeking.

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I doubt they'll go that route. They have something to offer the world. They have talent. They are interesting in an intellectual way, not like monkeys in a zoo kind of way.

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I think the Willis's are taking a risk, but hopefully the parents can stay grounded (and married!) enough to stay focused on what really matters, not the money and "stuff".

It's a positive sign that TLC chose to highlight a family with a mother so different from Kate, and I hope they see just how tiring Kate's become and most of all, that beating a dead horse over and over again ain't gonna make him gallop.

Tucker's Mom said...

There is no incentive for Mady to foster talents and gifts or work hard. There is no incentive to conform herself to social norms, be gracious and develop good social skills and healthy relationships with her mother, father and siblings. Those things are not rewarded on her reality show. Dysfunction is the order of the day.
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I cringed when I watched Mady and friend get boarding lessons in Maine. I don't know if she just awkward socially, or a little diva taking after Kate.
Mady seemed very inappropriate in her interaction with an adult. It's like she knew she could just act a shit and get away with it.
How could that guy know she didn't like working with people/adults unless there was some reason??
I think he had a reason for that comment.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The major difference for me is not that the Willises are nice. I think the Duggars are generally nice, but their show is as shallow and freak show as they come.

It's that this is a reality show with meat on the bones. It's about something of substance. It's a documentary style show. I would much rather see reality shows lean toward documentary style then just "ogle this oddity."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/07/entertainment/adam-levine-maroon-5-sugar-bomb/index.html

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It was just a sugar bomb, but this scared me.

There are scary people out there who want to hurt celebs, even if it's a hurt they can recover from. Why would anyone expose their children to this?

handinhand said...

I can easily see any of these kids, who have grown up spoiled, "special" and out of touch, being very, very disappointed to the real world once they're no longer wanted by the likes of TLC.
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Even worse, what may it do to sibling relationships if only one or two are considered marketable enough to carry their own show in the future?

Sue_Buddy said...

Since I don't subscribe to pay-through-the-nose TV anymore, I missed the Willis Family but I didn't Google them. They all have "J" names, I see. What a coinydink. Anyway, they're quite talented and have a super busy schedule according to their blog. I hate to see them align themselves with such a crap outfit as TLC.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think the rejection is half the problem for many child stars transitioning to adulthood.

You were once a hot item now you're forgotten. Except when this happens you're 19 or 20 years old and coming into some of the best, most energetic and vibrant years of your life. You are peaking. Yet the message you keep getting is you're old news just when you should be living some of the best years of your life.

It just is not good for a young person's psyche to feel that way at that age. They're not emotionally equipped to deal with it. They need to be spreading their wings at that age, not feeling like they've already been clipped and retired.

NJGal51 said...

There is no incentive for Mady to foster talents and gifts or work hard. There is no incentive to conform herself to social norms, be gracious and develop good social skills and healthy relationships with her mother, father and siblings. Those things are not rewarded on her reality show. Dysfunction is the order of the day.
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Mady's incentive seems to be that if you put your worst foot forward the bad behavior will be rewarded with more bribes/things from TFW for the continued filming of the bad behavior. Other than Cara participating in sports, TFW doesn't seem to encourage the kids to work on any real talents. Everything they do seems to be a one time thing for filming (gymnastics anyone?). The more the kids fight, hit, spit, etc. the more TFW can play the poor exasperated victim and the more TLC will film.

I didn't watch the Willis show but I really don't think they're in it for the money because I read that there was a very large out-of-court settlement from the accident. I don't know why they're doing it other than to showcase their talents. They did appear on AGT last year so they actually did go looking for the spotlight. Time will tell and hopefully the will remain as grounded and nice as people seem to think they are.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes I think the Willis thing is just for exposure, which is a reasonable decision when you're in the midst of a music career. I would be surprised if they pull something like quitting the music business because they're rich off TLC now. In fact I bet their show will only last a few seasons before they feel like they've milked that particular method of publicity and it's time for something new.

You have such an advantage if you come to a reality show with a focus and drive already on something else. A reality show rarely changes that, only enhances it.

The Duggars, the Gosselins, and most of the other TLC oddities, as well as shows like Teen Mom, don't have that much outside of "what" they are. Like I said, that's just not healthy. You might as well give someone a trophy for having a mole on their cheek, it's the same thing.

Over In TFW's County said...

Brittany Thomas ‏@lionessbrittany 42m42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just wondering if you could give me some ideas if I could send some presents to the sextuplets for their birthday?

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Oh, geez, here we go. Would Kate have the common decency to tweet her fans that while it's a thoughtful gesture, no gifts are needed but if they want to do something, a contribution to their favorite charity would be appreciated?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I must have missed it. Can someone explain how these Willises are related to the Willises who had a car accident and big settlement?

I read an article and that settlement is gigantic. 100 million.

P.J. said...

Admin, yes, I had read there was a $100 million settlement too. The Dad was one of the survivors of the accident, as were his the mom and dad. He lost 5 brothers and 1 sister in the accident. Five died instantly, and his brother, Ben, died the next day in hospital.

Hope that's clear.

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 18
I must have missed it. Can someone explain how these Willises are related to the Willises who had a car accident and big settlement?

I read an article and that settlement is gigantic. 100 million.

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The father on the show is an older brother of the kids who were killed. I think he was about 13 but not in the car.

foxy said...

Admin...Toby Willis is an older brother to the six children who perished in a car accident/fire about 10 years ago

P.J. said...

Admin, yes, I had read there was a $100 million settlement too. The Dad of this current family was one of the children who survived the accident, as were his mom and dad. He lost 5 brothers and 1 sister in the accident. Five died instantly, and his brother, Ben, died the next day in hospital.

Tragic, but no whining from these folks.

Lucy Ellen said...

The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM.

P.J. said...

Sorry for the double post. Blame blogger.

Sorry, I guess Toby, the dad of the current clan, was NOT in the car when it crashed. My mistake.

Winsomeone said...

"The father on the show is an older brother of the kids who were killed. I think he was about 13 but not in the car."

I googled him, and it said that Toby was a married man with children when his siblings died..he said the same thing on the show last night..that he was married at the time, and had his own family started when they died.

TLC stinks said...

Watching the show over the years gives us insight regarding these kids. IMO Mady is the favorite because she is most like Kate...drama, drama and more drama.

Rhymes with Witch said...

The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM. 23

Two SPECIALS. Not a new season.
Well, that's somewhat of a relief.

TLC stinks said...

Hmmm, June 19 and 26 at 10:00 on a Friday. Definitely filler. So have they already filmed for those dates? I'd say so to advertise. Maybe Mexico split into two episodes? Because if they are doing a pretend Mother's Day, maybe there's a pretend Kate birthday and a pretend tups' birthday that will be aired next week?

Rhymes with Witch said...

OT, but as Joy says, Katie is boring.
It finally broke 80 degrees here and I've got gardening on the brain. I would love to hear about folks' gardens or their plans for their gardens.

MikeB said...

Lucy Ellen said... 23
The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM.
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I can't see the TLC website from work, but I think that may be the two specials from last year about the tups birthday. They aired on June 19 and 26 of 2014 at 10:00 p.m.

Dmasy said...

I won't watch the new TLC show. It would not be "fair" to criticize one woman for showcasing her children and then watch another set of parents decide to do the same thing. (My opinion.)

I have fallen into the lure of Netflix. Oh, the addiction of documentaries! The quality programming there has consumed most of my TV time. I seldom check into network TV. Survivor is one of the remaining loyalties.

The garnish of fake fame has tainted the future of Kate and her children.

Kate will probably never change. I hope the kids have a chance to find the path to a different lifestyle.

I don't hate Kate. Nor am I jealous of her. I think she is shallow and short sighted and sold her children for a "glamorous" way of living.

getoftweeter said...

Well, I like the Willis family, very down to earth, let's hope they keep it that way.

I also like the Bates: Bring up the Bates. They are way more better than the Duggars will ever be. Most of their older kids are married, the others help out, The mother is so different from Michelle it is like night & day. The Bates hug people, no side stuff. Some of their beliefs are the same as the Duggars, but they come off as friendly nice, they make you feel at home and welcome. The Duggars make me feel as if I do something they will judge. And some of their kids, are not the sharpest pencils either, they are a lot like Michelle & Jim-bob.

I also like the Hayes Family: Table for 12, cause they were very down to earth. Dad work as a cop, mom was a stay at home, they had 9 normal kids and one handicap child who they always tried to include in what ever they were doing. The Mom was so normal/mediocre, a complete opposite of Kate. The Hayes had 2 sets of twins and tups. They both could handle their kids, together and by themselves. I heard no fighting, yelling etc, from their kids, unlike K8's. I guess they were too boring for the public, or TLC, not enough drama.

Dmasy said...

Rhymes, I have a tomato in Texas that is just beginning to show some pink. I have baby limes and baby lemons.

My gardening now is SMALL but very entertaining!

Good luck with your garden.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 10
The major difference for me is not that the Willises are nice. I think the Duggars are generally nice, but their show is as shallow and freak show as they come.
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The Duggars are generally nice. I haven't heard of any bratty behavior or ridiculous demands.
The parents don't cry poor while living a 1% life.
Michelle's treacly voice and submissiveness would grate on my nerves if I watched it. As it is, I just see them when they do appearances, and that's enough!

Sue_Buddy said...

MikeB said... 30
Lucy Ellen said... 23
The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM.
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I can't see the TLC website from work, but I think that may be the two specials from last year about the tups birthday. They aired on June 19 and 26 of 2014 at 10:00 p.m.
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I see (Fridays) is in parentheses in Lucy's comment. If TLC designated the shows on being on Fridays, it's probably current. Last year the shows were on Thursdays. if they appeared on the 19 & 26.

P.J. said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 29
OT, but as Joy says, Katie is boring.
It finally broke 80 degrees here and I've got gardening on the brain. I would love to hear about folks' gardens or their plans for their gardens.

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Rhymes, I've been losing my mind, waiting for nice weather. Did my major gardening shop yesterday and I'm always shocked. Why did the group of plants look so small in the garden centre and so massive when I got it home? I'm up to 32 big pots for the decks and porches around here. Then I need to get the veggie garden planted.

I'm planting 25 ever-bearing strawberry plants this afternoon.

Picked up 2 3' Mandevillas at Costco this a.m. Here's hoping I'm done spending money. (but I know I'm not) LOL

Tucker's Mom said...

Sue_Buddy said... 13
Since I don't subscribe to pay-through-the-nose TV anymore, I missed the Willis Family but I didn't Google them. They all have "J" names, I see. What a coinydink
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I don't get naming your kids with the same lettered name, but whatever floats the parents' boat.
I just wouldn't want to be the next kid when the parent's start making names up!
Coinkidentally, we had a 10-kid family all during grade and high school, and their names all started with 'J'. The boy in my grade was Jerome <3.

Tucker's Mom said...

Other than Cara participating in sports, TFW doesn't seem to encourage the kids to work on any real talents. Everything they do seems to be a one time thing for filming (gymnastics anyone?). The more the kids fight, hit, spit, etc. the more TFW can play the poor exasperated victim and the more TLC will film.
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OMG, do a side-to-side comparison of the G kids banging on their (suddenly and conveniently) rented instruments like 2-year olds, and the Willis kids with real training and talent.
It makes them look rather...mediocre?

Agree that Kate's new schtick is rolling her eyes and sighing at everything her kids do.
Poor, put out Kate.

P.J. said...

Dmasy said... 31
I won't watch the new TLC show. It would not be "fair" to criticize one woman for showcasing her children and then watch another set of parents decide to do the same thing. (My opinion.)

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I won't watch either, but I did see a few minutes last night during commercial breaks on other channels. I chose to google for a bit of info and now I'm over it.

I don't look at it as exploiting children in the same way Kreider does. These kids sing, dance and potentially have careers ahead of them involving those skills. It's possible that they're using the opportunity of the show to promote this endeavour. The G kids can sit on a couch and talk to a camera. Not exactly riveting stuff.

Tucker's Mom said...

Over In TFW's County said... 17
Brittany Thomas ‏@lionessbrittany 42m42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just wondering if you could give me some ideas if I could send some presents to the sextuplets for their birthday?

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Oh, geez, here we go. Would Kate have the common decency to tweet her fans that while it's a thoughtful gesture, no gifts are needed but if they want to do something, a contribution to their favorite charity would be appreciated?
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I'd love to see this kind of stuff make in onto Radar. Kate continuing to accept gifts for her and her kids is disgusting.
Those kids are old enough to be told that it's wrong to have so much and keep on taking.
Again, why? Why do they deserve to be showered with gifts? Because they are 1 of 6 sextuplets, or 1 of 8?
All accident of birth and nothing that warrants this selfishness.

Tucker's Mom said...

Lucy Ellen said... 23
The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM.
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Fridays at 10pm? How odd to "premier" new episodes at that day and time.

Tucker's Mom said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 27
The TLC Kate Plus8 section of videos has one group called 'gearing up for Kate's return' and notes there are 2 specials coming June 19th & 26th (Fridays) at 10:00PM. 23

Two SPECIALS. Not a new season.
Well, that's somewhat of a relief.

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I'm guessing this is the Mexico trip for Kate's 40th. Why would TLC pay big bucks for this trip and stick it in a place that's bound to not get high ratings/numbers?
Friday at 10?

angie said...



I dunno. Money changes people. Kate and Jon seemed like nice people in the beginning.


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Kate's always been a bitch. She was aloof to her neighbors (seems that a neighbor had a blog about it?)
She rejected used cribs from her father's church.
Employees at the clinic where Kate worked said she was a bitch as well.
According to her journal, she was pissed that Jon's dad didn't bring her lunch in time.


Doesn't sound like she was nice to me. (and these are just a few of the examples off the top of my head)

Rhymes with Witch said...

I have a tomato in Texas that is just beginning to show some pink. I have baby limes and baby lemons. 33

Dmasy, I'm jealous!
I do container gardening. Various berries, herbs, tomatoes and cucumbers. Will try bush beans this year. Gave my rhubarb plant to my sil because Roo has a tendency to chew on greenery. It survived the transition.

Tucker's Mom said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 29
OT, but as Joy says, Katie is boring.
It finally broke 80 degrees here and I've got gardening on the brain. I would love to hear about folks' gardens or their plans for their gardens.
May 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM

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I'm planting flowers today (after I mow the lawn) in planters and boxes. I have most of the annuals, but need more (and more and more!).
I just LOVE flowers and plants all around. It makes me so happy, especially after this dreary, rather shitty winter!
Garden-wise, I do container growing with lots and lots of fresh herbs.
So far, I've planted rosemary and thyme. I've got chives and oregano simply BURSTING back to life from last year.
The purple chive blossoms are GORGEOUS.
Oh, I also bought my token container tomato plant. Every year at this house, my tomatoes fail. I've done in-ground and containers and wind up with tall weeds that yield about 3 cherry tomatoes in Sept.
Costco had ~ 2 ft. tall, staked plants with marigolds and I thought, "what the heck!".
Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky this year!

redbird said...

Dmasy, I just couldn't resist! !!! Snark !!!

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8 m 8 minutes ago
Dmasy @MiloandJack @Zorro @deannatweeting @TFM

Looks like my garden is on hold this yr! working so hard for u to have spec's done!! :) Love to make lemonade 2 drink 2 stay kool @Dmasy healthy hummus to snack w/kale chips @XYZproduce Yummy for Mummy!

She will always grift, no matter what it is.

Snark Alert!!!

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't hate Kate. Nor am I jealous of her. I think she is shallow and short sighted and sold her children for a "glamorous" way of living.

May 7, 2015 at 9:00 AM
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Same here. I'm not jealous. She has nothing I want.
I'm happy that I have my privacy and am not shackled by the trappings of fame.
When we travel, we're anonymous naturally.

Tucker's Mom said...

I also like the Hayes Family: Table for 12, cause they were very down to earth. Dad work as a cop, mom was a stay at home, they had 9 normal kids and one handicap child who they always tried to include in what ever they were doing. The Mom was so normal/mediocre, a complete opposite of Kate. The Hayes had 2 sets of twins and tups. They both could handle their kids, together and by themselves. I heard no fighting, yelling etc, from their kids, unlike K8's. I guess they were too boring for the public, or TLC, not enough drama.
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I wonder if the Hayes's were to vanilla for TLC, or if Betty and her husband were just done with it.
He's a cop and like most cops, that's who he is. Plus, they were older and more mature.
I think that couple know who they are. They're not going to uproot from their community, family, friends and church because they suddenly are famous and have a need to become totally different people.

Jon and Kate were ripe for the picking when it comes to reality television picking people from obscurity.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Tucker's, I highly recommend this. Also composted manure. Last year was terrible for tomatoes in general, but I usually get a good crop.

http://www.gardensalive.com/category/s?keyword=tomatoes+alive

JM said...

I think that video Gearing Up for Kate's Return is from last year; the blurb under the video link doesn't say Fridays, just gives the dates as June 19 and 26, which were on Thursdays last year. I'm pretty sure I've seen that in with the videos before now.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Jon and Kate were ripe for the picking when it comes to reality television picking people from obscurity. 47

Especially since Katie shopped family videos around.

TLC stinks said...

I cannot find that mention of those specials in June. Perhaps this is pertaining to last year as mentioned above? That would be awesome if this Mother's Day special was IT for 2015.

Carole said...

The Willis family is talented and unique, but I think those parents are seriously misguided in signing their family up for reality tv.
You could see the hesitation when they were asked about having cameras in their lives now with this show.
They know damn well the down sides, but are going forth anyway.

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Did anyone watch the Willis Clan on TLC? I watched a clip and it showed them all working out in their basement and then making music together.

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The Willis family had a previous reality show on, GAC network about 2 years ago. They aren't just a talented family doing everything from dance competitions to working out, to appearing/playing at a local music festival or Disney World, to being on America's Got Talent; they WORK at it- it's their family business and has been for a longgg time. They all have 'jobs' within the family such as one mainly writing the music or lyrics, one in charge of travel logistics, or one the equipment.

Dad runs the family like a controlling boss would his company. It's their family BIG business / lifestyle but so far it seems to be working for them. It's bothersome that the younger kids know nothing other than their family is business and their business is family. The pressure the parents put on the kids is tremendous. I do wonder, though, if or when, some of the kids might rebel because of their lives being so controlled.

I thought the show on GAC was fascinating to watch how the family operated and how all of the kids went along with the 'program' so agreeably. I'm curious if the TLC show will pick up where the previous one left off or if much of it will be repetition.

They are a good looking family, but their charisma and talents are highly exploited by the parents. The TLC show is just a larger format/platform for the family to be seen and exploited. I guess TLC offered them more money and a bigger platform than they had with GAC.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

I'm not jealous of Kate but I do hate her. How can you not hate a person who beats babies and puppies?? That to me is beyond cruel and evil. Those of you who don't hate Kate must be saints. Even though I hope even saints hate her!

I like to give a shout out to all teachers who are sometimes overworked, under paid , and under appreciated!!!! Have a great summer you all deserve it.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Oh, I also bought my token container tomato plant. Every year at this house, my tomatoes fail. 45

It just occurred to me that this is what happens when I plant strawberries. Suggestions anyone?

Rhymes with Witch said...

Dad runs the family like a controlling boss would his company. It's their family BIG business / lifestyle but so far it seems to be working for them. 52

Shades of Joe Jackson?

Tomatoes - good to see you!

Karen Kaufman said...

Re: being jellus of Krieder. Haha, um, no. Forget everything else. I'd never want 8 kids born within 4 years of each other. And neither does she, btw. She's the biggest idiot. Sold her soul and her chances of happiness by manipulating her poor ovaries into spitting out multiple eggs and saddling herself with children she is miserable having to care for. She is not sly like a fox. She's myopic and pathological and has manufactured her own misery. It's just such a shame that she has involved these kids in her crazy plot. From the minute they were conceived, she has used them for fame and financial gain and as human shields against the criticism. Because no one wants to take food put of her babies' mouths. Eye. Roll.

Math Girl said...

Here's the exact note from "Gearing up for Kate Gosselin's Return".

Are you prepared for Kate Gosselin’s return? Watch these clips from previous seasons, then tune in on June 19 and 26 at 10/9c for the two-part ‘Kate Plus 8’ special!

It is in very small print - I had a hard time finding it, even knowing it was there. The video clips start with the teaser ones (letting kids win and no fun things) and then go back in time (based on the headers, some from the infamous RV trip and others from further back).

I also wonder if TLC is taking after Kate and not updating their site.

Kaya said...

P.J. said... 39
Dmasy said... 31
I won't watch the new TLC show. It would not be "fair" to criticize one woman for showcasing her children and then watch another set of parents decide to do the same thing. (My opinion.)

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I won't watch either, but I did see a few minutes last night during commercial breaks on other channels. I chose to google for a bit of info and now I'm over it.

I don't look at it as exploiting children in the same way Kreider does. These kids sing, dance and potentially have careers ahead of them involving those skills. It's possible that they're using the opportunity of the show to promote this endeavour. The G kids can sit on a couch and talk to a camera. Not exactly riveting stuff.
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How is it any different? These children are working, which is one of the ongoing complaints about the Gosselin children. These children have no choice but to participate, which is one of the ongoing complaints about the Gosselin children. These children have no choice but to sing and dance. What if, God forbid, one of them doesn't like the arts?

If Kate+8 is child exploitation, then so is this.

Sue_Buddy said...

Shades of Joe Jackson?
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Just what I was thinking. Sometimes those family musical enterprises don't turn out so well for some of the kids in the family. It's pretty amazing that all 12 of the Willis children have taken so happily to singing, dancing, playing instruments, performing in public. Can't help but go hmmm.

P.J. said...

Kaya said... 58

How is it any different? These children are working, which is one of the ongoing complaints about the Gosselin children. These children have no choice but to participate, which is one of the ongoing complaints about the Gosselin children. These children have no choice but to sing and dance. What if, God forbid, one of them doesn't like the arts?

If Kate+8 is child exploitation, then so is this.

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Jon said he didn't want to film. He was forced to continue. He's also said that some of the kids didn't want to film any more, but they have no choice. I've seen no evidence, so far, that the Willis children are being forced into anything. If I do, I'll change my mind. There is a huge difference between performing (singing/dancing/playing) and having a camera film you sitting on the potty, going on vacation, or throwing up. One is entertainment, the other is exploitation. If the G kids weren't sextuplets, they wouldn't be on t.v. unless their mother and father had three times more children.

P.J. said...

Tucker's Mom, last year was not a good year for tomatoes. Too much rain in our area. And they still were not ripe by the middle of August.

The biggest tip I can give you is to plant them deep. Plant them right up to the second set of leaves. Don't be scared. You'll have a better root system and that should fix a lot of your problems.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

I just checked the weather and it's 59 degrees and it's May 7th. WTH, what happened to sunny California? I'm freezing my buns off !! I'm staying under the blankets until it's at least 60 degrees! LOL

I'm not watching Kate on Sunday because I made a promise to myself a long time ago that I would never watch anything she was on. Got to keep my promise even though sometimes I'm curious. I'll just wait for Admin.'s recap she does a great job.

Jeanne said...

The confusion with the Willis clan is the parents had essentially two families. They had 3 children, all of whom are living today. When those children were almost grown, they started having kids again and had 6 children ranging from baby to 13 yrs old. All 6 younger children were in the van when the accident happened. 5 children died right away and the 13 yr old died the next day. The parents were burned but lived. At the time of the accident, the set of 3 older children were grown and living on their own. The current tv Willis family is one of the older 3 children and the 12 grandchildren. A few years after the van accident, this current Willis family also had a terrible house fire. They lost the house but everyone lived.

PatK said...

Two specials in June? On Friday nights? Bwahaha. Friday and Saturday night airings are known as show killers. TLC wuvs you, Kate!

TLC stinks said...

I'm so over TLC. They can keep introducing these shows but as far as I am concerned, their goose is cooked when it comes to odd or super sized families. I really do not see much difference between hawking the Gosselin kids or hawking the Willis kids.

FYI said...

Here's the exact note from "Gearing up for Kate Gosselin's Return".

Are you prepared for Kate Gosselin’s return? Watch these clips from previous seasons, then tune in on June 19 and 26 at 10/9c for the two-part ‘Kate Plus 8’ special!
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That video and the description was posted last year to promote the specials that aired last June. The Kate plus 8 FB page posted this on June 5, 2014.

Kate Plus 8
June 5, 2014
Throwback Thursday! Take a look back at some of the Gosselin's most memorable moments before they return on June 19th! #TBT http://ow.ly/xGaOF
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The link in the post goes directly to that video.

Tucker's Mom said...

Picked up 2 3' Mandevillas at Costco this a.m. Here's hoping I'm done spending money. (but I know I'm not) LOL
May 7, 2015 at 9:07 AM
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My local Lowes (and I bet they all do) puts their sickly plants in the back on clearance for 50%+ off. I just bought a bunch of petunias and vincas this morning, along with some regularly priced plants.
Last year, I spent <$100 for a truckload of plants for my home. That's about a 60-75% savings over my nearby nursery.

Rhymes with Witch said...

The biggest tip I can give you is to plant them deep. Plant them right up to the second set of leaves. 61

I'd like to add: pinch off the suckers that start to grow between the stem and the real branches. They are useless and drain energy from fruit production.
If anyone can explain better, please do.

Tucker's Mom said...

angie said... 43


I dunno. Money changes people. Kate and Jon seemed like nice people in the beginning.


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Kate's always been a bitch.
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I see your point, but I remember those first Discovery specials and Kate was quite the Country Mouse. I think she was on her best behavior for the cameras, showing the audience what she thought they wanted and expected to see from a harried, tired, poor mother of 8.

Rhymes with Witch said...

That video and the description was posted last year to promote the specials that aired last June. 67

Is TLC taking a page from Katie's book?
Low effort, low budget.

P.J. said...

Let's throw tomatoes said... 63
I just checked the weather and it's 59 degrees and it's May 7th. WTH, what happened to sunny California? I'm freezing my buns off !! I'm staying under the blankets until it's at least 60 degrees! LOL

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Funny, you showed up when the topic turned to tomatoes. LOL. Where I live, those temperatures call for beer and shorts.

I believe TLC is airing her show on Friday night at 10 p.m. because it's not a school night and that's when the tweens are allowed to stay up late. That seems to be her demographic. Just make sure there are plenty of clips of babies and we're good to go.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

No new blog entry today? Rats!

TLC stinks said...

Something is up. She's been too quiet on Twitter with Mother's Day and the tups' birthday coming up.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Thanks Jeanne for the info on the Willis Family. I didn't even know who they were , sounds like a really sad story. Well I quess the only positive thing about them being on TLC is that Kate must be super "jellus" of them.

Heard the woman sing and it's definitely country. They will probably be a hit.

P.J. said...

Tucker's Mom said... 68

My local Lowes (and I bet they all do) puts their sickly plants in the back on clearance for 50%+ off. I just bought a bunch of petunias and vincas this morning, along with some regularly priced plants.
Last year, I spent <$100 for a truckload of plants for my home. That's about a 60-75% savings over my nearby nursery.

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I wish. Once in a blue moon I'll find a plant that is "only mostly dead", and rarely a "free to a good home". Where I live, we have a short season so we have to make hay while the sun shines, as it were.

Rhymes, how could I forget pinching off the suckers? That's pretty important too.

getoftweeter said...

TLC stinks: and not one word or tweet on advertising the special either. Which means: Kate is running around, trying to get organized for the tups birthday. After all Kate has to top last year, and I would not be surprised if TLC is filming it.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Let's throw tomatoes said... 63
I just checked the weather and it's 59 degrees and it's May 7th. WTH, what happened to sunny California? I'm freezing my buns off !! I'm staying under the blankets until it's at least 60 degrees! LOL

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We've been in the 80s for several days, with high 70s, low 80s in the extended forecast. We've never really had spring -- just went straight to summer. I hope this isn't a preview of what July and August will be like. If so, it will be very hot with much time spent on the Veranda with many kegs.

Milo is Milo and she will never change. I can't figure out, though, why she claims that she's "supporting Kate Gosselin." Why does Kate need support? She's not helpless. Milo never met her and how is Milo's support going to help her? She's never addressed this.

getoftweeter said...

Tucker'smom: I too last year got a foot & half tall baby blue spruce, for $2. at Lowes, on the clearance shelf.. We have a couple of Lowes here, I usually go to this one Lowes in burbs, cause they periodicly mark down houseplants, especially the bamboo, the straight & curly, 2 ft stems, for $1. At the local nurseys they charge $15 a stem or more, especially the curly ones. I could go into China town and get bamboo for under $5, but I would have to take a bus & then the subway, to get to it.


PA Dutch Mom said...

TLC stinks: and not one word or tweet on advertising the special either. Which means: Kate is running around, trying to get organized for the tups birthday. After all Kate has to top last year, and I would not be surprised if TLC is filming it.

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Just because she's quiet or running around doesn't mean they are filming. According to you, they've been filming since the beginning of the year! Not everything they do is being filmed. I would think that with TLC's new show, they are not going to spend the time and money on a family who has lost the cuteness factor. TLC has bigger fish to fry now that the Willis family made its debut. Any word on the ratings from last night's show?

getoftweeter said...

Kate is a twit: If you go to TLC schedule site, for K8, it says on thursday 5/14, they are showing the mother day special, and on that date it also says premere? I wonder if that is the start of a new season for K8?

PA Dutch Mom said...

Sue_Buddy said... 60
Shades of Joe Jackson?

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LOL! I read this and thought...what does Joe Jackson have to do with any of this? It's baseball season and Shoeless Joe was accused of being involved in the Black Sox scandal.

Then I realized there is another Joe Jackson. I need a drink. Long Island iced tea, anyone?

Rhymes with Witch said...

Rhymes, how could I forget pinching off the suckers? That's pretty important too. 76

P.J. I had forgotten too until I read your comment about planting deep.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Re: being jellus of Krieder. Haha, um, no. Forget everything else.

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It's KREIDER, pronounced Cry Der. You know that Kate is such a fanatic about correct spelling...can't misspell her maiden name. She reads here (as does Gladys).

PA Dutch Mom said...

I'm not jealous of Kate but I do hate her. How can you not hate a person who beats babies and puppies?? That to me is beyond cruel and evil. Those of you who don't hate Kate must be saints. Even though I hope even saints hate her!

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Just call me Saint PA Dutch! I don't hate her. I remember my mother always telling me that you don't hate anyone, but rather you just like some people much better! LOL! We were also taught that you can hate what the person does, how the person acts, but you don't hate the person. It always seemed like a good rule by which to live.

I find her disgusting; her actions unconscionable, but hate...nope.

Ex Nurse said...

DMasy said...

I have fallen into the lure of Netflix. Oh, the addiction of documentaries! The quality programming there has consumed most of my TV time. I seldom check into network TV. Survivor is one of the remaining loyalties.
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Ahave you seen the documentary on Ann Richards? Such a great lady!

angie said...

I wonder what attracted Jon to Kate, and how she trapped him into a relationship and a quick marriage. Makes no sense.
Same for that crazy bitch Bethanny Frankel. Dang, we all were yelling at the screen JASON RUN, but nope, he had to marry that pile of crazy. I think Bethanny is worse than Kate, if that's possible. I have no freakin idea what he saw in her.

Lynne In RI said...

PA Dutch Mom (85): "Just call me Saint PA Dutch! I don't hate her. I remember my mother always telling me that you don't hate anyone, but rather you just like some people much better! LOL! "

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I'm with you on that one. Did we have the same mother? lol! I'll be St. Lynne of RI. I don't hate Kate. Hate is such a cruel emotion that, if you're not careful, can consume you and drain you.

I will ride on the dashboard of the car from now on.

FYI said...

getoftweeter said... 81
Kate is a twit: If you go to TLC schedule site, for K8, it says on thursday 5/14, they are showing the mother day special, and on that date it also says premere? I wonder if that is the start of a new season for K8?
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I don't think it's the start of a new season. I think someone just copied and pasted the original post from the 10th, which said "premiere".

Ex Nurse said...

June 19th and 26th is when the tups turn 10 specials were aired in 2014-on Thursday. I haven't seen the link in TLC, but I am thinking it might be old. Unless they are airing on the exact same dates.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Then I realized there is another Joe Jackson. 82

PA Dutch, I was so focused on showbiz dads that Shoeless Joe never came to mind.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Kate is a twit: If you go to TLC schedule site, for K8, it says on thursday 5/14, they are showing the mother day special, and on that date it also says premere? I wonder if that is the start of a new season for K8?

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If the Thursday show is a repeat of the Sunday show, then it's not a premiere. In the entertainment industry, a premiere is used when describing a performance or show that is being introduced to the public. This would have already been done on Sunday. It doesn't necessarily mean that more will follow.

Tucker's Mom said...

Carole said... 53
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Thanks for the background info.
It really reminds me of the Osmonds. Donny has been very open about how hard it was growing up and how he knew his place was in the family business, and that he'd never do what "normal" kids did.
I have little problem with the idea in general, but it seems to me that every child is obligated to stay and not pursue another career or option in life.
They should all be allowed, even encouraged, to do walkabouts or rumspringas.

Tucker's Mom said...

Let's throw tomatoes said... 54
I'm not jealous of Kate but I do hate her. How can you not hate a person who beats babies and puppies?? That to me is beyond cruel and evil. Those of you who don't hate Kate must be saints. Even though I hope even saints hate her!

I like to give a shout out to all teachers who are sometimes overworked, under paid , and under appreciated!!!! Have a great summer you all deserve it.
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Well, don't hold back now!!
:)
Great to "see" you, and totally agree on point #2.

MikeB said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 80
TLC has bigger fish to fry now that the Willis family made its debut. Any word on the ratings from last night's show?
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The Willis Family got 1.8 million viewers and a 0.5 share. It was soundly trounced by 19 Kids and Counting which got 3.0 million viewers and a 1.0 share.

The Willis Family ratings are actually worse than what the first K+8 special got last year (2.4 million viewers and a 0.8 share). Of course her numbers dropped off quite a bit after that episode.

Ingrid said...

getoftweeter said... 81
Kate is a twit: If you go to TLC schedule site, for K8, it says on thursday 5/14, they are showing the mother day special, and on that date it also says premere? I wonder if that is the start of a new season for K8?

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I suppose they are putting it on the 14th so they can lie and say the kids made that food for her on actual mother's day. Sheeple would believe that the episode could be filmed Sunday and get edited by Thurs.

PA Dutch Mom said...

PA Dutch, I was so focused on showbiz dads that Shoeless Joe never came to mind.

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I've been watching so much baseball lately (and going to games) and just purchased tickets to a theater production of "Damn Yankees," so Shoeless is the first person I thought about!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Let's hope TLC doesn't wrap its tentacles around this one:

ROCKFORD, Mich. – A western Michigan couple with 12 sons is waiting to find out whether baby No. 13 keeps the streak going.

Jay and Kateri Schwandt's baby is due Saturday, the day before Mother's Day. They're sticking to their tradition of not finding out in advance whether they're having a boy or girl.

They say they'd be shocked if the baby is a girl.

Kateri Schwandt told The Grand Rapids Press (http://bit.ly/1caghwk ) that the "odds are not in our favor," but that the family would be happy either way. She grew up in a family of 14 children.

The Schwandts live Rockford, which is north of Grand Rapids. Jay Schwandt says he is expecting another son, but "if I could put my order in, I would root for a girl."

Jeanne said...

I don't hate Kate. If I knew her better, if she was part of my life, I probably would hate her. My not hating though is not altruistic or a matter of principle. I only have so much mental energy to spend. I have people in my real life that I already hate. And other problems too. I have nothing left to hate Kate. But I do believe that we have helped shine a light on Her Horribleness.

foxy said...

I don't understand saying Toby Willis is the same as Joe Jackson. Joe Jackson used to beat the crap out of Michael and Michael essentially supported that family all of his life. What is really sad, Michael is still supporting Joe Jackson even after Michael died. I really doubt the Willis kids and wife are abused physically and mentally. They have money from the entire family pitching in and working for it. The kids do not support that family.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Okay, Lynne and PA Dutch Mom, otherwise known as the Saints, I thought about what you said and came to the same conclusion that I do hate Kate . I'm really into not hurting babies and puppies! I hate her but I'm not consumed by her. I just would never want her as a friend.

But on a good note I don't hate anyone here! LOL. LOL

P.J. said...

"They're sticking to their tradition of not finding out in advance whether they're having a boy or girl"

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Not knowing in advance is now a tradition? It used to be the norm. *sigh*

Tucker's Mom said...

Hate is such a cruel emotion that, if you're not careful, can consume you and drain you.
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Like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.
I do believe Kate hates Jon, and it shows through every pore of her being.

Tucker's Mom said...

MikeB said... 95
PA Dutch Mom said... 80
TLC has bigger fish to fry now that the Willis family made its debut. Any word on the ratings from last night's show?
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The Willis Family got 1.8 million viewers and a 0.5 share. It was soundly trounced by 19 Kids and Counting which got 3.0 million viewers and a 1.0 share.

The Willis Family ratings are actually worse than what the first K+8 special got last year (2.4 million viewers and a 0.8 share). Of course her numbers dropped off quite a bit after that episode.

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Not surprising given the Willis's aren't tabloid staples.

Tucker's Mom said...

The Schwandts live Rockford, which is north of Grand Rapids. Jay Schwandt says he is expecting another son, but "if I could put my order in, I would root for a girl."
May 7, 2015 at 3:21 PM
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Um, dude, you did put your "order" in ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

I grew up with a family of 6 boys. After #6, I think they just gave up!
All boys is tough. In this family they were quite spaced out, too.

Willow mom (now Piper's mom) said...

OT...Princess Bride just started on BBC America!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW's silence makes me curious. Last Friday was the tweet
about Jon, and then I think her next tweet was to say good night
on Sunday? Was there anything else from her this week?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kateri Schwandt told The Grand Rapids Press (http://bit.ly/1caghwk ) that the "odds are not in our favor," but that the family would be happy either way. She grew up in a family of 14 children.


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Hehe, they sound cute.

The odds are actually ABOUT 50-50 it's a boy or 50-50 it's girl every time you have a baby, with it only being slightly less likely than 50-50 you'll have the other gender the more children you have of the same gender.

You would think it should be 50-50 every time no matter what gender you've had before but strangely it's not. But like I said the variation is SLIGHT.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Not surprising given the Willis's aren't tabloid staples.

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True. They aren't a train wreck and the mom isn't the mom that viewers watch to see her screaming, melting down and just being your garden-variety beotch.

It seems like a nice family. I hope, though, that if given perks, free vacations and such, that the kids stay grounded and that they and the parents don't get into the entitlement thing. We'll see. It's different from the Gosselin saga and their filming of potties, vomit and wooden spoons, but things can change. Although this family has the "wholesome" appeal going on, I think it's still an invasion of privacy because the young ones cannot give their consent to film.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wonder what attracted Jon to Kate, and how she trapped him into a relationship and a quick marriage. Makes no sense.


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All due respect to Jon but I actually think he and Kate are a lot alike.

I don't think he is a mean or bad person like I believe her to be but I think they both are not very grounded, they are dreamers and full of wishful thinking, tend to be on the lazy side, tend not to see things through, tend not to necessarily know their own minds or have a firm compass. They both definitely aren't too concerned with thinking ahead. I actually think they are both B personalities, not A, as much as I bet Kate THINKS she's an A.

I think he's become more grounded and responsible as he's gotten older and is a loving father, but when they were in their 20's, they were cut from the same cloth. The difference is she has a personality disorder on top of all this and he does not.

I bet you anything he loved her because she loved and accepted HIM for who he was. She wasn't a nag trying to change him until much later. Sometimes that's all it takes for men to fall for it.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

I'm really into not hurting babies and puppies! I hate her but I'm not consumed by her. I just would never want her as a friend.

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I don't think that anyone here takes any pleasure in hurting babies and puppies. One can hate the act of doing that; one can find it despicable and evil, but that doesn't mean that one hates that person. I don't hate her and I'm not a saint, and I certainly wouldn't want her as a friend.

Consumed by her? She's definitely cruel and some have called her a succubus, but I don't think that she's into eating her victims! lol!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Let's throw tomatoes said... 63
I just checked the weather and it's 59 degrees and it's May 7th. WTH, what happened to sunny California? I'm freezing my buns off !! I'm staying under the blankets until it's at least 60 degrees! LOL

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I'm loving it! I can make comfort foods and hot cocoa for a bit longer before the long hot summer. Dinner was a hearty quiche!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Something is up. She's been too quiet on Twitter with Mother's Day and the tups' birthday coming up.

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That often means nothing more than somebody else is watching the kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I'm so over TLC. They can keep introducing these shows but as far as I am concerned, their goose is cooked when it comes to odd or super sized families. I really do not see much difference between hawking the Gosselin kids or hawking the Willis kids.

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I used to see what they had on every night. Haven't done that in years. That's their own fault, they lost a loyal viewer who now only tunes in every six months to see how the little people are doing (I genuinely like them), and do a recap for this blog.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

"They're sticking to their tradition of not finding out in advance whether they're having a boy or girl"

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Not knowing in advance is now a tradition? It used to be the norm. *sigh*

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I know what you mean! However, it's THEIR tradition. It sounds like they never knew the sex of any of the babies before they were born, so yes, it would be keeping with tradition and their way of doing it.

We never wanted to know the gender of any of our babies. There are a few things in life that are such a wonderful surprise, and that's one of them!

Ingrid said...

Princess Bride is on BBCA channel right now. I think twice in a row.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I have a psych question. I don't know much about Celebrity Worship, other than what I've read here on this blog. If Kate pulls the plug on Twitter, stops filming, and does go away, would someone like Milo disappear also, or would her obsession with a celebrity manifest itself in some other way? Do people like that move on to another celebrity and continue the addiction process? If this is such a huge part of their lives, do they need this attention from a celebrity in order to survive and cope with whatever is missing or has gone wrong in their lives?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

"Do people like that move on to another celebrity and continue the addiction process? If this is such a huge part of their lives, do they need this attention from a celebrity in order to survive and cope with whatever is missing or has gone wrong in their lives?"

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I was also wondering about that. What happens to an obsessed fan when the celebrity no longer exists on the internet and there is no supportin' to do? Will another well-known person be the object of her affection, and could that poor unfortunate celebrity survive a meddling Milo? What happens if that person wants absolutely nothing to do with an obnoxious fan? Does the fan just keep going until he/she finds someone who would humor her and enjoy the adulation?

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 111

I have always liked how your mind works admin. LOL

Paper Plates Forever

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well thank you Paper Plates lol, I think!

I DVRed Princess Bride! God strike me down, I've never seen but bits and pieces of it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sleepless I know nothing about that syndrome but I'm going to take a wild guess and say if Kate disappears they will find somebody else to be obsessed with.

I don't think for these people it's REALLY about Kate. It's about being susceptible to being drawn in by a celeb. Kate just happened to be there at the right place and time. And look at their timelines, so many of them have other little pet celebs too.

As we know however some people turn violent when their celeb rejects them.

JoyinVirginia said...

I have been too busy to get by a garden center! If it weren't for the daffodil bulbs and iris and azaleas, my ward would have nothing. Maybe this weekend, I want to do a few tomato plants and maybe a few other things. We have lots of big bunnys around and deer, I have to make sure I have something up to avoid my plants being eaten down to the ground.
only reality tv on my radar is the competition shows. Survivor is so much better than early in the season. Amazing race is almost at its conclusion. DWTS is simply terrific, I hope Rumer wins.
Any Big Bang Theory fans? What do you think of the last new episode? I enjoyed it, but now I will wonder all summer who is actually going to be together when the gang comes back in September.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Just what I was thinking. Sometimes those family musical enterprises don't turn out so well for some of the kids in the family. It's pretty amazing that all 12 of the Willis children have taken so happily to singing, dancing, playing instruments, performing in public. Can't help but go hmmm.


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I don't know much about this family but it doesn't strike me as unusual an entire family would be musical. I've seen a lot of that growing up and being heavily involved in music and the arts. Music seems to be genetic for many families. Similar to sports where it wouldn't be unusual to have an entire family of kids who are really good soccer players.

Though I think there always needs to be concern when kids so young experience harsh worlds like the music business.

Mel said...

I bet you anything he loved her because she loved and accepted HIM for who he was.
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True enough. And who he was, was someone spineless with no sense of direction in life, someone that she could dominate. She led him around by the ring in his nose from day one, and the implication of easy, uh, whatever, and lots of it in exchange for letting her be the dominant party. IMO.

NJGal51 said...

OT - For those of you who were fans of Mr. Monk, beginning this week, Tony Shalhoub will be on Nurse Jackie as the new ER doc. I guess I'll watch that instead of the K+8 special.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

As far as the celebrity worship stuff, I do think fans like Mrs. Uggs
and Em have plenty of "back up" stars to occupy themselves with,
and would direct their attention to those folks if TFW disappeared.
I also think they'd still have their families and other activities to
take up their time, and would somehow get over this particular
loss.

But I think Gladys is in a different category. I'm still not convinced
she is who she says she is. And I think she would suffer greatly
if TFW was to become unavailable to feed even the meager
crumbs she offers her fans.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 126
OT - For those of you who were fans of Mr. Monk, beginning this week, Tony Shalhoub will be on Nurse Jackie as the new ER doc. I guess I'll watch that instead of the K+8 special.
May 7, 2015 at 10:12 PM
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Looking forward to Tony on the show. I'll miss Coop!

TLC stinks said...

My only concern would be for the musically talented family is what happens if one or some of the kids do not want to make music a career but have to because the family must remain intact (their brand). It's just like Kate keeping ALL eight on TV because that's her brand and according to Jon, some do not want to continue filming. Surely the Willis kids are being pressured to stay together even though some may have other interests.

TLC stinks said...

I am totally enjoying her Twitter silence. Unfortunately, I suspect she'll be back this weekend.

redbird said...

NJGal51 said... 126
OT - For those of you who were fans of Mr. Monk, beginning this week, Tony Shalhoub will be on Nurse Jackie as the new ER doc. I guess I'll watch that instead of the K+8 special.

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I wish this would trend, What are you going to watch instead of Kate Plus 8? Because, it is OUR tv life.

Katykat said...

RE: Princess Bride--I just bought the book, "As You Wish" by Cary Elwes (Westley). Nostalgic, easy read about his memories. of making the movie.

Anonymous said...

Re her recent tweet - what are the chances of H and L both speaking the same thing at the same time.

bm

Sherry Baby said...

TLC stinks said... 130
I am totally enjoying her Twitter silence. Unfortunately, I suspect she'll be back this weekend.

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Now if only Milo would shut up for good, and not only until the weekend.

Sherry Baby said...

As far as the celebrity worship stuff, I do think fans like Mrs. Uggs
and Em have plenty of "back up" stars to occupy themselves with,
and would direct their attention to those folks if TFW disappeared.

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True. Mrs. Uggs has several as backup, both men and women. I think she's off to Florida in a few weeks, most likely chasing down one of her crushes. She'd survive just fine, and the same goes with Emily with her mommy issues and penchant for older female celebrities. She would latch on to someone at a meet and and greet.

Milo is most likely a different story. If it's true that her health and well-being were at risk and she couldn't be told that the show was cancelled, I think her obsession goes so much deeper than just moving along to another celebrity to get her fix. It's Kate that she loves and I wonder if anyone else could ever fill that need. It could be that TFW is her one and only true love and none could ever replace her. When you think about it, it's really a pathetic situation. Milo could become a basket base if their relationship ever ends, even if that close friendship exists only in Milo's mind. She's a "one woman" woman!

Sherry Baby said...

This is a nice story about a fan and a celebrity...

https://gma.yahoo.com/garth-brooks-surprises-super-fan-mom-personal-concert-133913107--abc-news-music.html

Maybe Kate should show up in Milo's backyard and sing, "Close To You" to an adoring Gladys!

Sue_Buddy said...

My comment from early this am seems to have gotten lost so I'm reposting it:

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 124
I don't know much about this family but it doesn't strike me as unusual an entire family would be musical. I've seen a lot of that growing up and being heavily involved in music and the arts. Music seems to be genetic for many families. Similar to sports where it wouldn't be unusual to have an entire family of kids who are really good soccer players.
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I knew a lot of large families when my kids were growing up and the children were very often exposed to music lessons and were always participating in church activities that included performing musically. Many of them did it because that's what families "did." Some have continued in that vein, some haven't.

I'm merely hesitating thinking of these 12 kids as a 12-pack, all loving what they're doing, genetics or not. A child can be very musically inclined, yet not want to play an instrument or sing and dance, etc. as an occupation for a myriad of reasons. Happens in life all the time.
And if this is purely a business operation, I can easily see some of the kids rebelling at some point. They may very well want to be something other than part of the 12-pack performing Willis clan.

And yes, I know about finding something you're good at and you'll love going to work every day. Are these kids enjoying the grueling schedule, practice times. isolation from "regular" kids and working at such young ages?

From seeing other failed musical families, these are things I'm wondering about.

Mel said...

Interesting comment from another blog I'm on. The woman was commenting about a presenter she'd just seen.

Other commenters were piping up that they, too, had had the pleasure of meeting this presenter, and then commenting that they should try this other presenter because she was equally gracious, allowing photos and signing things, so open and approachable.

If only TFW had caught on to being gracious. She, too, could be making the speaking circuit, away from her children as much as she wanted to be.


I saw Jxxx Dxxx, yesterday at N N S W. She and her husband did one of the presentations. She is so funny and gracious. She allowed all photos and signed anything that people asked her to.

Ex Nurse said...

NJGal51 said... 126
OT - For those of you who were fans of Mr. Monk, beginning this week, Tony Shalhoub will be on Nurse Jackie as the new ER doc. I guess I'll watch that instead of the K+8 special.
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I "literally" gasped when I read this! Love him!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If only TFW had caught on to being gracious. She, too, could be making the speaking circuit, away from her children as much as she wanted to be.


I saw Jxxx Dxxx, yesterday at N N S W. She and her husband did one of the presentations. She is so funny and gracious. She allowed all photos and signed anything that people asked her to.

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Another lost opportunity. There are huge dollars to be made on the speaking circuit. There was a time when my narcissist was doing speaking engagements upwards of twice a month around the country. An easy $30,000 a pop and their bills were paid with room for snowboarding trips and private school. It was quicker and easier money than doing a six week film shoot in Canada and being out of commission from home that whole time.

You don't write your speech on the car over. That is lazy and disrespectful.

getoftweeter said...

Well, according to my on screen cable guide: Tonight at 7:57pm-8pm, central time, TLC will have look at a new spinoff of JK8: K8.

I suppose this goes along with the word: premere on 5/14 at TLC schedule listings, and that they are repeating the mother day special that day as a premere. Unfortunately, at this time the TV listing doe not go past tuesday the 19th to see what is going to be shown on the 21st. YET! A new season of K8? They also had this morning a mini K8 athorn. I did not watch.

I have notice that TLC will add footage that was not seen originally, and call it a new episode.

Sue_Buddy said...

If only TFW had caught on to being gracious. She, too, could be making the speaking circuit, away from her children as much as she wanted to be.
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She would have had to attend a rigorous course in a words and their meanings class.

Ex Nurse said...

Sue Buddy said...
And yes, I know about finding something you're good at and you'll love going to work every day. Are these kids enjoying the grueling schedule, practice times. isolation from "regular" kids and working at such young ages?
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What are the chances that all of them want a performing career? There have always been child actors that lead unbalanced lives--but, at least in my experience with friends who have kids who perform, the child is passionate about it. I'm sure there are parents that groom their kids for stardom, either to live out their own dreams (Gypsy), or to support the family (Joe Jackson), and I think that reality tv has certainly fueled this, but it isn't fair to paint all parents with the same brush. The Gosselin fiasco has certainly jaded me, as I used to believe that parents generally make decisions in the best interests of the children. The Willises may have the purest of intentions, and the kids may really love it, but the decision to put their private lives on display, and not just showcase their talent by performing, is a mistake that will certainly have unintended consequences.

Admittedly, the G8 were simultaneously cut off from community and family members, which isolated them from everyone except their ego maniacal mother ( with far too few nterludes of privacy with their father). I haven't read anything about this family, but I haven't heard anything that would lead me to believe that this will be the outcome.

But, I think it is a mistake that will impact every member of the family for the rest of their lives. Will one of them be labeled the bitch? Or the troublemaker? Be expelled from school? Stay tuned....

Tomato Question!! said...

This is Tucker's Mom posting-just wanted to grab the attention of you tomato experts on the veranda.
The tomato I bought from Coscto is a Phoenix plant in a 12" pot, and it has 2 marigolds planted with it.
It says it's a small patio-type plant, and it came with a 2' cage.

Do I need to, or should I repot it?

I have it in full sun, btw, and I have tomato tone.

P.J. said...

Katykat said... 132
RE: Princess Bride--I just bought the book, "As You Wish" by Cary Elwes (Westley). Nostalgic, easy read about his memories. of making the movie.
May 8, 2015 at 6:03 AM

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Sounds like fun. Have you read The Princess Bride, the book that that movie was based on? It's adorable and the film is very faithful to the book.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I think TFW having a bodyguard glued to her side was another
big part of her undoing. You can't sell an "everywoman" persona
when there's some scowling dude within 3 feet of you at any
moment. Especially when your claim to fame is pretty much
limited to the amazing coincidence of having 2 multiple births.

I've seen Gwen Stefani at a Starbucks near me twice in the past
few months. She was smiling and chatting and taking pictures
with fans. She had her youngest son with her, and there was a
man with her who wasn't her husband, so I assume he was a
bodyguard. But he most certainly didn't fling himself on the
fans' cameras and delete their photos. The first time I saw her,
there was a very long line, and she just stood on it. Didn't have
the guy wait on line while she waited in the car, or push to the
front to say, "Don't you know who I am?" She is a superstar --
rich, famous, talented, successful and powerful. Besides her
music, she has made a fortune with her fashion line, and just
sold a cartoon which she's going to produce. But even a
superstar doesn't have a to be a diva. So when someone
as mediocre as TFW pulls that nonsense, it's laughable.

Sue_Buddy said...

Another thing to consider about the Willis family is burnout. If you look at their event schedule, it's exhausting. Besides a tour through Ireland for most of June where they will be performing at 12 different locations, they're solidly booked through mid-September hitting several states. Those kids are working!!

You can see their schedule here:

http://www.thewillisclan.com/Events.html

I can't advocate on here for kids having privacy and normal childhoods and not working to support the family and turn a blind eye to the Willis family's exploitation of their children.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
TLC was running Kate Plus 8 episodes this morning. I watched a few of them as I was doing other things walking in and out of the room. But I did catch her when she was screaming about the paint on the wooden floors upstairs during their room changes. I say this because somebody mentioned it had been taken out of the episode. Good to know it is still there.

Also I saw on GMA a segment on TLC's new show Labor Games or something like that. All the hosts and the a Dr. thought it was a bad idea and low-class. So much for TLC claiming to get rid of their "weird and strange" programming. I was glad to see them bash TLC.

fade2black said...

I'm merely hesitating thinking of these 12 kids as a 12-pack, all loving what they're doing, genetics or not.
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I'm skeptical of any parent who says their large family is in agreeance on anything, my four couldn't even agree on a restaurant (no hitting, spitting or screaming, just different preferences). Even if they all do enjoy making music and performing, is it really possible that they all would choose the same kind of music? What happens if one wants to be a punk rocker or a classical musician or play Irish drinking songs in a pub? I'm not buying it, the children are either not allowed to voice an opinion or are too isolated and brainwashed to form one.

For the record, I have not watched this show and have only heard of this family here. My opinion is based solely on my experience and the allegation that the whole family chooses this lifestyle.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I buy that the whole family is into music even one kind of music. Like I said, I've seen that over and over. Even in my own family, we all play, and enjoy, musical instruments, mostly piano, guitar or brass. This continued well into adulthood, and we're the family that is always digging them out and "jamming" together over the holidays. We get a lot of enjoyment out of that year after year.

I'm much more skeptical a grueling tour schedule is beneficial for young children. I think we've seen too often how hard that lifestyle is on young people. If it were kept more low key and relaxed I'd be more comfortable. A month long tour abroad isn't really low key to me.

fade2black said...

I'm much more skeptical a grueling tour schedule is beneficial for young children.
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Yes, that's also a big concern, a huge concern, and I can't think of anything that would explain away the fact that it is, in many ways, detrimental to those children.

My four also play and sing and enjoy very much getting together occasionally and belting out the show tunes again. However, that is not, and never was, their lifestyle. When they go their separate ways they have each always enjoyed different and unique musical genres. If they had been performing as a group 24/7 for years, I'm not at all sure they would have enjoyed it then and I'm fairly positive they would not do it now for fun.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Jeanne read your post about the Willis family. Are you saying the the father of 12 on the current tv show is one of the three older kids left alive after his parents had a bad van accident? So the father on the current tv show had six siblings that died in the van?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My four also play and sing and enjoy very much getting together occasionally and belting out the show tunes again. However, that is not, and never was, their lifestyle. When they go their separate ways they have each always enjoyed different and unique musical genres.If they had been performing as a group 24/7 for years, I'm not at all sure they would have enjoyed it then and I'm fairly positive they would not do it now for fun.


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Basically it's mixing business with pleasure which can take the fun out of it. Of course, people do that all the time to no ill results. It's good to do something you love. But it's probably not good to have to be involved in that at such a young age.

Though to play devil's advocate, I was pretty involved in music as a child and lots of kids participated in musical things that I was friends with. I had many friends where music was their life. In many ways it was my life too. We did things like Bach Chorus, which performs and travels, in addition to band and chorus did after school bands like marching band and jazz, and I've participated in I don't even know how many competitions as a child, performed in community theater, some of them around the state. I remember traveling with band to Toronto and D.C., and missing school. Not for cash but for a score and a trophy. But I don't see any ill effects with any of us. I dare say it was good for me and the time of my life. I suppose the big difference is I was never under any pressure to perform to feed my family and make us money. If I wanted to quit I suppose I knew I could (I didn't want to). But here, the Willises appear to be millionaires, so they don't need the money either. A lot of child stars who turn out just fine report that their parents kept their day jobs and they never felt pressure to support the family. It makes me wonder if it's not WHAT a child is doing or being in the public eye, but rather the biggest problem is the PRESSURE of supporting the family. I believe the Gosselin children can and do feel that pressure and are aware of it, or becoming moreso anyway.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
I looked at TLC website and they have several different times for the Mother's Day Kate special. In fact on their scroll it shows the premiere at 12:02am on Monday. That is wrong. I checked my guide on my tv and it shows the premiere at 7pm Sunday central time. And a repeat at 11pm central.

I don't think at the moment any more Kate Plus 8 shows are scheduled after this Mother's Day one. Don't take their word "premiere" to mean anything because their website is screwed up with all different times and date for the Mother's Special.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I don't think at the moment any more Kate Plus 8 shows are scheduled after this Mother's Day one. Don't take their word "premiere" to mean anything because their website is screwed up with all different times and date for the Mother's Special.

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I have noticed that premiere is now used by TV listings to mean ANY first airing of an episode, even if it's episode 12. It no longer means the pilot episode or first episode of a season like it used to. That's probably because repeating things has become much more of the norm than they used to be, so they use it to distinguish a first showing from the repeat later in the day or over the weekend.

Millicent said...

I haven't seen the new show featuring the Willis family, so what I know of them I've mostly learned here. However, I am recalling what I know of other musical families in the past who toured and performed as children. Let's start with the the Cowsill family. They were definitely talented and some of them still perform together. But the background of their family law was horrible. The Jackson 5 - I think every single one of those kids, now adults, are messed up. The older ones seem the least damaged, but none of them emerged unscathed.

How about the von Trapp family? Turns out that step-mom Maria was quite the tyrant, quite the attention seeker, and she did not care whether or not the kids felt like performing. It was her way or the highway.

This is why I'm skeptical about any family that makes their children perform, especially doing a tour that would exhaust most adults. I simply do not agree with it. All of us only get one chance at childhood. I think it's wrong to rob your child of that chance, despite the parents' claim that the kids love it and that's what they want to do. I call baloney on that.

Beyond family musical groups, there are a lot of kids who were stars or famous singers as children, and we know that most of them had serious difficulties in adulthood. I have come to the conclusion that in the majority of cases, it really isn't a good idea to make your children's talents the basis for the family income.

If this family loves to sing together, surely they could do so one or two week-ends a month, for fun. Perform locally. During the week, they attend school with their peers, and mom and/or dad work to provide the household income. That way, the kids could also participate in school activities, sports, or just hang out with friends. I'm inclined to think the Willis parents are fame seekers, no matter how nice they might be, and I don't intend to watch their show.

I also echo the poster who found it somewhat improbable that every single one of the children are into the same type of music. I guess it could happen, maybe if your parents only let you listen to a certain genre, but it doesn't jive with my own experience growing up with 7 siblings. Yes, we all enjoy watching White Christmas and singing along with the Haines sisters to their duet about sisters, But when we're riding in the car together on a road trip - very hard to agree on a radio station, so the driver gets to choose and the rest of us have to deal with it.

Millicent said...

FlimsyFlamsy - I think Gwen Stefani is such a good role model for young girls (well women in general too). I think she's amazingly talented, yet also grounded. I love Pink too. Strong, successful, talented women. Good moms too :) It's nice to hear that Gwen appreciates her fans.

Millicent said...

P.J. said... 145

Katykat said... 132
RE: Princess Bride--I just bought the book, "As You Wish" by Cary Elwes (Westley). Nostalgic, easy read about his memories. of making the movie.
May 8, 2015 at 6:03 AM

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No I have not, but I will add that to my list. One of my favorite movies. The first time I saw it, I was in college and we went to the local drive in theater to see it.

I thought I saw Rob Reiner giving an interview about the movie once, during which he said that some big mafia guy loved the movie too. But I can't find any link or internet proof of that interview/quote. I still use that quote: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." And I always rewind the sword fight scene at least two times - it's so good!

P.J. said...

Tomato Question!! said... 144
This is Tucker's Mom posting-just wanted to grab the attention of you tomato experts on the veranda.
The tomato I bought from Coscto is a Phoenix plant in a 12" pot, and it has 2 marigolds planted with it.
It says it's a small patio-type plant, and it came with a 2' cage.

Do I need to, or should I repot it?

I have it in full sun, btw, and I have tomato tone.

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Okay, first of all, I don't know what "tomato tone" is.

If the plant is less than 2 feet tall at this point, I would repot it into a bigger pot and plant it deeper. And stake it right away. Be sure to gently thread the longer branches up and over the cage bars too. I have no idea why there would be marigolds other than to keep away ants or make the pot more decorative. Don't forget to pinch the suckers. Water it well and good luck.

MikeB said...

getoftweeter said... 141
Well, according to my on screen cable guide: Tonight at 7:57pm-8pm, central time, TLC will have look at a new spinoff of JK8: K8.
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I see that on my Dish Network guide as well. It is titled Kate + 8: First Look. Looks like they are going to have another four episode "season" K+8. My guess is a repeat of the March early Mother's Day, two episodes from her week-long getaway to Mexico, and an episode of her on her couch contemplating her life so far and how strong she has had to be to provide for her brood of 8 kids with no help at all.

Until people stop watching this train wreck TLC will continue to film. The ratings from last June justified filming the kids on vacation in July. The ratings in January justified filming in March (I don't think it was coincidence she was seen near Discover headquarters one week after her first January special netted 1.8 million viewers). I hope the ratings drop below 1 million this time, otherwise you can rest assured TLC will be scheming with Kate to film the kids on summer vacation again this year.

fade2black said...

...after school bands like marching band and jazz, and I've participated in I don't even know how many competitions as a child, performed in community theater, some of them around the state. I remember traveling with band to Toronto and D.C.,...
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Admin, are you my daughter? Tee hee

P.J. said...

The jury is still out on the Willis family but there seems to be a lot of people that feel they are no different than the G kids.

Well, if you feel that way, stop watching any t.v. show that has children in it, stop going to any movies that have children in them. Boycott all products that use children in the ads. Don't watch any cartoons that use the voices of children. We don't know if they want to be "working" or if their parents are forcing them. One thing I do know: those kids have a talent or a skill that makes them bankable in some way or another. The G kids are exploited because of the circumstances of their birth. Their mother is blatant in her exploitation of the kids and manipulated the circumstances of their birth to further her own agenda. To me, therein lies the difference. But I'll change my mind in a hurry if I see anything disturbing. I'm not a sheeple.

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Millicent said, "Let's start with the Cowsill family. They were definitely talented and some of them still perform together." ...156.

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Extremely talented. I know one of them very well. Sadly, though, Barry, Bill and Rich are deceased, and John has been touring with the Beach Boys for 15 years although he does join Bob, Paul and Susan on occasion for performances.

Barry is the brother whose body was found in the street five months after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, and if I recall, Rich died a day or so before Barry's memorial service.

The last I heard, the remaining members had been planning to record an album next year. I don't know if that's still in the works, though.

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 150
I buy that the whole family is into music even one kind of music. Like I said, I've seen that over and over.

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I buy it, too. Mine are all into the same kind of music and always have been. Will that change over time? I don't know, but for now their likes in music are the same and while they all have different interests...sports, theater, art and so on, they agree on music. I guess it's rare to find that, but in our case, it's true.

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Getofftweeter said, "Unfortunately, at this time the TV listing doe not go past tuesday the 19th to see what is going to be shown on the 21st. YET! A new season of K8? They also had this morning a mini K8 athorn. I did not watch." ...141

(((((((((

Why do you think that there are episodes in the making, other than the MD Special? Has Kate hinted at this? Has Milo done any teasin' about it? After all, she knows everything going down in Kate's world.

Sue Buddy said, "She would have had to attend a rigorous course in a words and their meanings class."

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I'm not so sure even a rigorous course or courses would solve that problem. I really don't think at this point she could learn anything about public speaking and words, and of course she'd have to have her hands tied together because she will never be able to control that flapping. I can't even listen to any of her interviews. Her struggling with words makes me cringe.

FYI said...

TLC posted a new video on it's website. I'm guessing it's an excerpt from the special.

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/breakfast-for-mom/

Rhymes with Witch said...

have no idea why there would be marigolds other than to keep away ants or make the pot more decorative. Don't forget to pinch the suckers. 159

Keep the marigolds for pest control, aphids in particular.
I agree with P.J., repot deeply.
Water the soil, NOT the leaves.
I resume tomato tone is fertilizer? Use as directed. Good luck!

FYI said...

I noticed at the end of the video clip, the card says "Kate plus 8: Mother's Days Surprise---Sunday May 10 9/8c.

According to everywhere else, including TLC's own website, it's airing at 8pm EDT, not 9pm.

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Rachel Patton ‏@rPatton27 7m7 minutes ago
LOL literally i tweeted about being like Kate Gosselin earlier and so many people wanna hate...

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As opposed to illiterately tweeting?

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Hannah & Leah this am: Mom, when you have makeup on, you don’t look a day over 30! Me: and when I don’t? H&L: You look tired... #GirlHonesty

ME ME ME ME ME.

Emily Creighton ‏@EmCr68 14m14 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 tired but still gorgeous! I think only YOU can pull that look off!! Still waiting for you to give me the magic recipe! 😉

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Oh, sheesh! What magic recipe might that be? How to wear makeup or how not to look tired? I think that she has mastered the art of sucking up so no magic recipe is needed for that!

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

have no idea why there would be marigolds other than to keep away ants or make the pot more decorative. Don't forget to pinch the suckers. 159

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There are some sheeple suckers on Twitter that I would love to pinch, just to wake them up from their gullible state of delusion!

Cruisin' Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Millicent said, "FlimsyFlamsy - I think Gwen Stefani is such a good role model for young girls (well women in general too). I think she's amazingly talented, yet also grounded." ...157

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Her six-year-old son has the old Kate Gosselin birds nest hair cut and black nail and toe polish! He's a cutie!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Kate Is A Twit (#168), oh, no, another time discrepancy?! The
poor fans' heads are going to explode! I think Gladys needs to
get on this ASAP with a charmin' tweet to TLC. Something like:
"We're out of the loop, give us the scoop! What time Sunday will
America's Fave Mom air? #PinNNeedles#Can'tWait#FaceOfTLC"

FYI said...

I took at look at TLC's twitter timeline, and they haven't made any mention of Kate's special. But they did tweet this:

TLC Network @TLC · 1h 1 hour ago
Don't miss @LeahRemini on @extratv tonight! She'll be teasing this Sunday's #LeahTLC #MothersDay special & hanging with @TonyDovolani.

Tony tweeted this earlier:

Tony Dovolani @TonyDovolani · 3h 3 hours ago
Be sure to tune in to @extratv tonight I get to interview my @LeahRemini

So looks like Leah is getting the hype, probably because her show has been renewed.

Meanwhile, doesn't look like Kate's doing any promotion anywhere, not even on her own twitter timeline.

Over And Out said...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Alot of truth to this! One of many reasons I love knowing you! 😋 http://t.co/N8vax8NYPh @Kateplusmy8

Does she honestly believe that she knows Kate? Oh, Kate...just to hear your laughter, just to see you smile! Don't any of the sheeple find this just a bit odd?

Still pesteing Jamie...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Pumpkinbottom3 Ya know...Kisa does look a tad lonely...how's about adding a lil play partner! :) Take your pick! > http://t.co/6ON3GjuJk9

...and Barb

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer Barb...you ok?

...and Sandie

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@SandieBellz Geez.....you #LittleHoudini....where did you go to? Glad you're back! I need my Yankees update....😋

I wonder if it's ever occurred to Gladys that perhaps these people are ignoring her and don't want to be bothered? Can you imagine living with someone like this...I mean every day of your life? I'd be pulling my hair out. Has she ever said if her son moved out after he graduated?





Formerly Duped said...

No 11 yr old kids would say ' a day over 30' unless they were coached or being sarcastic.Or it's a lie that the girls said this?? Yup, that's it.

I also like Gwen too.

Sandylove said...

Did anyone watch the clip that "Kate is a Twit" posted of a TLC preview to the kids making breakfast for "Mama" (as they call her)?

I feel sorry for Collin! The girls are saying who their favorite brother is (Aaden or Joel), as well as Kate saying what kids get along with what kids and no one mentioned Collin as their favorite. I just find that incredibly sad. Poor Collin.

Carole said...

... They have money from the entire family pitching in and working for it. The kids do not support that family.

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I disagree. The family business is "The Willis Clan". They're paid for the music they write, their performances, and now, their tv show. W/o the kids, there is no 'clan'. W/o the kids, the parents would have no family business to manage/produce and there would be no performances to be paid for. IMO, the kids are very much supporting the family. I'd love to know how the income is divided in the family, especially for the children who are now adults.

Another thing that bothers me about this family is the control the parents, particularly the dad, has over their lives including when and how they exercise and when, how, and how much they practice their dance and music. From watching their show on GAC a few years ago, the kids WORK, even at practicing and exercising and now they've added making a tv show again. It's not like they're playing/working and the camera is in a corner randomly catching their actions; many of the kids actually take part in production and deciding the 'script'.

Over And Out said...

Alicia Weicht ‏@Cheer_alicia_09 5m5 minutes ago Pennsylvania, USA
@Kateplusmy8 ONE MORE HOUR!!! I can't control my excitement. 😎

Good grief, woman, get a grip! Apparently she's also into Stacy London. Are these "girl crushes" normal?

Alicia Weicht @Cheer_alicia_09
I need my girl @stacylondon back in my life!! When the new season comes back on, make sure it's a million episodes 😜😘

FYI said...

Sandylove said... 176
Did anyone watch the clip that "Kate is a Twit" posted of a TLC preview to the kids making breakfast for "Mama" (as they call her)?

I feel sorry for Collin! The girls are saying who their favorite brother is (Aaden or Joel), as well as Kate saying what kids get along with what kids and no one mentioned Collin as their favorite. I just find that incredibly sad. Poor Collin.
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I noticed, too, that Collin wasn't mentioned.

Also, if this is supposed to be the KIDS making breakfast, how come none of the boys were in the kitchen helping? Were they also banned from the kitchen by their sisters?

Jeanne said...

Leslie-#157- Yes, you are correct. The current father on tv is one of the older 3 siblings. He lost 6 younger siblings in the van accident.

I know so little about this family and their music. I have no idea to what extent they truly love music or want to perform. I think with the tv show it's so easy for the exploitation to happen. Can a kid not perform because of illness? Or is there something in their contract that makes them work anyway? Do the parents end up pressuring the kids to continue? Is this the family's only means of support? I just don't know if a family can do this kind of show and not be sucked into it.

I do disagree with never seeing a movie with a child actor or whatever. While some are probably being pushed by parents, there are at least protections for child actors. They can join the union and their money is set aside by law. Reality shows are still the wild west. So many contracts signed with no consultation with a lawyer. So many states with no laws. I do not think we're hypocrites for advocating for the Gosselin kids yet still going to see Annie.

Lily said...

I think Emily will hitch her wagon to TFW's bandwagon for as long as she can hoping to get more TV time. She's declaired her theatre arts major with a concentration in acting. A far cry from her original wanting to be a nurse. She's got a video on her timeline for her school's new theatre arts program and she's interviewed in it. What I found interesting is that she's wearing TFW necklace. Didn't TFW go from 2 to 1? Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Thanks Jeanne for your response. That is very sad that his six younger siblings were killed in an auto accident. What horror for the parents especially. I wonder if this has anything to do with him having 12 kids.

I saw the episode and was impressed with all the whole family. No, I don't think young kids or teens should be on a regular tv show. But at least they have very good to great talent and are not depending on its sole income like Kate is. They did mention that they play three different types of music. However I really can't remember all three.

getoftweeter said...

Well, it looks as if TLC is not changing that much. In fact they appear to be getting worse. Promoting old shows as new or current shows that were already on TV, but adding a few more footage of film and calling it a new episode. Having some kind of pregnancy contest? I thought they were trying to get away from the freak shows.

Anyway, so far no new blog, no promo of the mothers day special, by Kate. or is Kate waiting till after the special, to write some made up crap. No live online chat? Kate? I saw the clip, just a promo for mothers day, they showed the bird dipping into a cup of something. That was sooo scripted. Since we all know it was filmed about month or more ago.

Sue_Buddy said...

Still pesteing Jamie...

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Pumpkinbottom3 Ya know...Kisa does look a tad lonely...how's about adding a lil play partner! :) Take your pick! > http://t.co/6ON3GjuJk9

...and Barb

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer Barb...you ok?

...and Sandie

Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@SandieBellz Geez.....you #LittleHoudini....where did you go to? Glad you're back! I need my Yankees update....��
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Milo is the 21st century version of the ladies of the 1800s, going visiting once a week, collecting all the gossip and passing it on.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So Saint Tony tweeted his excitement about interviewing Leah Remini.
Guess he knew how to teach her. Leah's been acting since she was
M & C's age, and has a list of credits a mile long. But obviously she
didn't pull any of TFW's diva nonsense with him. Once again, TFW's missed opportunities cannot be measured, but I bet they've already
cost her millions. #Dolt

reader said...

Willis family. TLC will keep exploiting until finally all 50 states have child labor laws up to date, in particular those regarding performers. We need federal laws to protect these children.
Reality TV has been called Hollywood's sweatshop. I agree.
"Unfortunately, the majority of states have little to no protection afforded to child performers at all.45 Due to the flexible nature of reality television, a genre which has been deemed “Hollywood’s sweatshop,”46 producers can literally take the show on the road, forum shop, and film where the labor laws are in the favor of production companies. They can essentially escape jurisdictions such as California and New York, where the labor laws are more protective of child performers."
Good read
"The Kids Are Not Alright:
An Open Call for Reforming the Protections Afforded to Reality Television’s Child Participants"
Liana Nobile
http://jjlp.law.ucdavis.edu/archives/vol-17-no-2/08-nobile-macro-17-2.pdf

foxy said...

My heart breaks for Collin. He is blatantly abused by everyone in his family from his mother on down. I wonder why he is singled out. I hope he can come through his childhood and have a nice, happy productive life. He always seems like he wants to please and makes such a strong effort to be kind.

Sue_Buddy said...

getoftweeter said... 183
Well, it looks as if TLC is not changing that much. In fact they appear to be getting worse. Promoting old shows as new or current shows that were already on TV, but adding a few more footage of film and calling it a new episode. Having some kind of pregnancy contest? I thought they were trying to get away from the freak shows.
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Thursday's cable ratings again show TLC with not one show in the top 100. So much for new management. I almost feel sorry for that new guy, climbing on board a sinking ship.

Freak shows may be on their way out. Wouldn't that be great?

ncgirl said...

"So looks like Leah is getting the hype, probably because her show has been renewed."

Tony and Leah were on Dancing with the Stars together. They seemed to hit it off. Their families have socialized, and he was on her show. They cover DWTS for Extra together. If Kate had been nicer, she might've gotten this. Dolt.

Sandylove said...

I noticed, too, that Collin wasn't mentioned.

Also, if this is supposed to be the KIDS making breakfast, how come none of the boys were in the kitchen helping? Were they also banned from the kitchen by their sisters?
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I noticed that too. But at least they (hopefully) didn't hear what their sisters said.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I kind of wonder if TLC is just falling back on old staples while they sort out what direction they want to go in the future.

These ratings are nothing to write home about. They're passable and will keep shows on the air but it's nothing to brag about or take huge credit for. But it may be enough to keep them in sort of a holding zone while they try to come up with something innovative.

The network really is long overdue for a makeover. You watch the channel and you would think it's still 2005. Time to update their clothes and hair and everything else.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo is the 21st century version of the ladies of the 1800s, going visiting once a week, collecting all the gossip and passing it on.

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I can see her in a huge hat adorned with chicken feathers. "Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more..."

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Anyway, so far no new blog, no promo of the mothers day special, by Kate. or is Kate waiting till after the special, to write some made up crap.

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Why would she promote it? She had Gladys to do it. No need to waste her own time for that. Gladys is her beck and call girl.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I saw the episode and was impressed with all the whole family. No, I don't think young kids or teens should be on a regular tv show. But at least they have very good to great talent and are not depending on its sole income like Kate is.

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Are either of the parents employed outside the home?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

our post "Recap: Celebrity Apprentice Episode 8 the finale":

I saw the episode and was impressed with all the whole family. No, I don't think young kids or teens should be on a regular tv show. But at least they have very good to great talent and are not depending on its sole income like Kate is.

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Are either of the parents employed outside the home?


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I thought it was established the family is millionaires 100 times over due to one of the largest settlements paid out in the history of car accidents.

Sue_Buddy said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 192
I can see her in a huge hat adorned with chicken feathers. "Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more..."
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That is SO Milo. LOL!

Sue_Buddy said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 191
These ratings are nothing to write home about. They're passable and will keep shows on the air but it's nothing to brag about or take huge credit for. But it may be enough to keep them in sort of a holding zone while they try to come up with something innovative.
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The thing that is so interesting about watching the ratings is, they've taken such a drop in just the past few weeks. The only shows that are getting on the top 100 are the Big Fat whatever and the Duggars. Not sure if that means most of TLC viewers are overweight and fundamental Christians or what.

No offense to overweight, fundamental Christians, just a simple observation.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can see her in a huge hat adorned with chicken feathers. "Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more..."

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LOL! We had the same exact thought at the same time!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 192
I can see her in a huge hat adorned with chicken feathers. "Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more..."
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That is SO Milo. LOL!

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Yes!!! Eulalie Mackechnie Shinn! I'm not sure of the spelling, but this is so Milo!

P.J. said...

Willis family. TLC will keep exploiting until finally all 50 states have child labor laws up to date, in particular those regarding performers. We need federal laws to protect these children.

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Agree, but what proof do we have that passing the law in PA has made 1 iota of a difference in the lives of the G kids? CA and NY have been in the game a lot longer than anybody else and would have people in place to oversee production. What has changed for the G kids? I'm not seeing anything. Speeding is against the law too, but if there's no cop around...

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