Saturday, June 21, 2014

Recap: Kate Plus 8: Sextuplets Turn 10 part 1: I ate ate!

The recap is a little later than I thought; I honest to goodness was going to do it Thursday night. Then I lost the use of almost an entire row of keyboard keys Wednesday evening. That's right, the d, f, g, h, j, k, and l keys just went poof. I pounded them a bit, because maybe I just wasn't pressing hard enough in this particular area of the keyboard. Didn't work. I wondered who the a and s keys had paid off. I eventually realized this made "I hate Kate" really difficult to type. "I ate ate" just doesn't calm me down at all.  Even I hate TFW wouldn't work. That was amounting to "I ate TW," which means a whole other thing that's entirely inappropriate for children

Our summer weather is finally poking through the June gloom but there's still never any parking, so I had to steal a spot at the grocery store, buy a jar of marinara sauce and a couple bananas to make me feel like I had good morals and values, and take a long walk in the blistering sun to the Apple Store for my Genius Bar appointment. My d, f, g, h, j, k, and l keys aren't working, I explained, dabbing the sweat from my brow with the back of my hand, and I really need the K like now. Apple blue man, who actually has quite a nice name I won't disclose, was not so interested in my K woes. But he ran a few tests and promptly announced,  "It looks like your d, f, g, h, j, k, and l keys aren't working. We'll have to fix those." Yes. If you please.

I like how these early 20-somethings have a way of sort of shaming you over your stupid laptop. It's your laptop and you can do what you want with it, even be reckless. I mean, you paid for it. They look at you like your dad looked at you in 1986 when you were 20 minutes late for curfew. "So, you spilled something on the keys?" Apple asked disapprovingly.

"No!" I exclaimed, scandalized. "I never eat or drink or even think of such things around my laptop!" I didn't want to let him down.

"Yeah they always say that, then we open it up and find a puddle of sticky diet Sprite."

Yikes. You can't get anything past these blue men. He was making me nervous, like interrogation nervous. And then I was laughing at myself for being nervous, heh. But he laughed too, which was cute. Okay, fine, maybe I did spill a little. Once. It was a Corona. It snorted out when somebody or other on the blog here made yet another wise crack. It was just a few drops, and it was a really long time ago. I can't say he was asking me this to see if I would be covered by my warranty, because my warranty has long since been blown and he knew that. So he was just generally shaming. Probably for fun. A pastime. Count how many people own up to their Corona mishaps in an hour's time. Blue men are sick people.

Alas the Mac will be back next week all prettied up and alcohol free. In the meantime I've dusted off an old Dell which has about 30 seconds of battery life if you accidentally unplug it, so you have to try not to do that or really hurry if it happens. First world problems: I know it when I have them. Now I'm finally off with the recap, checking my power connection every few minutes as I go!

Coming up on Kate Plus 8: Sextuplets Turn 10. Cousin It here decided it's time to throw the "little kids" a big birthday party. Cousin It went to the Joan Crawford school of parenting in that It has a problem with parents who let their children win. Because that turned out oh so well for Christina.



For all the T.V. Cousin It watches you would think she would have seen that film by now. I mean, it replays all the time. She probably skipped over DVRing it because she's not interested in some other mother being the dearest. Hey, I thought we aren't allowed to judge how someone parents. I thought we are to support parents and especially mothers no matter how f-ed up their parenting is. Or is only It allowed to have a problem with how other people parent? Heh.

If you're wondering why I'm referring to Kate as Cousin It, it's not because I can't get my K to work. It's because the hair is really that bad. Like a flat, sad little shih tzu with roots.

Well they certainly had fun with this in the editing room. It crows on and on about how the surprise she has in store for the kids will be the most amazinglish wonderful thing ever and she will probably be crowned bestest Mommy in all the land. Then TLC cuts to the children around the dinner table just as Aaden's face falls. Nice touch.

Credits roll. I think these are pretty similar to what they had before, only you can tell they are really under a tight budget because there was no real photo shoot this time. They just use screen captures of Kate and the kids from the couch interviews. Some of the captures are pretty lazy, with the kids not making their best smile or expression. Cara's is even a little blurry, lol. It was probably one of those things where the deadline is 6 p.m. and you just need the photo in there you don't have time to mess around with getting it perfect. Hannah's hair looks just like Kate during her Baby Jane phase. It looks ridiculous on a ten year old. Also now that she has gotten older she's the spitting image of photos I've seen of Kate when she was a child, only brunette. The rest of the kids look like Jon, mercifully, especially Alexis and the boys, only they have Kate's large teeth. They will grow into those I'm sure but at this age it's awkward. Which is another reason kids this age should be left to hit puberty in private. Even the group photos at the end are old, old, old, which is so silly when it's supposed to be an "update." LOL I can just picture Cousin It's rage when she found out there would be no photo shoot day this time around. No day to glam and primp for hours and play celebrity with Deanna and the "team" while the kids push and shove and raid the food truck.

March. Spring Break. Kate says they've grown up a lot since the cameras left and really learned what's important. Which would be? She never says. I'm going to take a guess she hasn't learned that privacy is the most important thing right now for her famous children and she's vowed to protect it with everything she has from now on.

Oh, Cousin It has been replaced by Baby Jane, which is a bit jarring.



For continuity sake, you should probably stick with the same "look" for one update special or if you must change your look, do something subtle like wear your hair up instead of down. She looks like a completely different person and it's distracting. I get this sense about her she likes showing up with some completely new and different hairstyle every time her fugly mug shows up on T.V. or even more than once on the same program. Because that's what all the cool celebrities do like Brad Pitt. Only he manages to pull the constantly changing thing off without coming across like a complete tool, so he gets a pass.


Brad Pitt in Legends of the Fall is just about the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It's a pity his "just hold me while I quietly cry because I feel guilty that I indirectly caused my kid brother's death" look didn't make it to the above graphic because it was the best one. Okay I can't help myself here it is:



Told ya.

Baby Jane's skin looks like it got run over by a Mack Truck. I hope it has insurance. Kate's right a lot has changed!

Meet Zorro, the newest member of the Gosselin family to be exploited. Okay he's kinda cute, and at least he probably has no idea what a hellhole he lives in. A producer is asking Jane mundane questions about their morning routine and sounds bored. Jane's answers are equally boring. On school days they have breakfast early. On non-school days, it's later. Um, sometimes they make it themselves. Um, sometimes I make it. Um, shoot me. It's hysterical how they act like there is something special and interesting about multiples and meal times. There's not. You prepare more food. Pretend it's a dinner party with eight of your friends over, only this happens every day. Nobody asks how you possibly managed to get dinner on the table for eight friends. Eventually after ten years of this you'd think you'd get into a routine and this wouldn't be a big deal anymore, but it's Baby Jane and she loves talking about the super special ways she does the most mundane of things.

The kids come down for breakfast and Leah gives Baby Jane the most epic eye roll. I'm not sure what that was about, something about a missing sweatshirt and the laundry, but that made my day. Apparently from the moment they wake up they give her absolute hell, even when Jane is trying to be nice to them, and that makes me happy because karma is fun. Does anyone remember that really sweet Disney actress Noley Thornton from the 90's? She was an amazing young actress who one day just abruptly disappeared. I'd love to know why that was, if it was because she chose to leave or the roles dried up. It's hard to imagine the roles dried up. She was holding her own working with legends like Patricia Neal.

Anyway I bring her up because Alexis reminds me a lot of her. It's been impossible to find out what ever happened to Noley other than at some point she studied film at Chapman, which is a very good film school. I wish her the best, she was pretty in demand and must have spent a huge chunk of her childhood on movie sets. I'd love to chat with her about all that someday.

The kids are really wild about the bird. I'm glad they have something to care about. Kate comes about as close to admitting the kids' father is still alive when she says they haven't seen Zorro all weekend since they just got back. Back from? I don't think the kids were off having a spa weekend in the Poconos. It's very sad she can't acknowledge their father's very real presence in their lives.

He loves Rice Krispies! the girls say. Ha, aw. Aaden explains that Zorro is also known as "the president." Um, Aaden, this is about as far from a democracy as you can get. But I appreciate Zorro's optimism. Somebody's gotta try an' veto this bitch once in awhile.



I like Zorro. Hey maybe that's what that dumb Hailey meant about this special pulling presidential ratings. She thought it was actually going to feature the president. You know there's nothing funnier or more pathetic than an ex-girlfriend who ponies up to another ex-girlfriend or ex-wife just because the only thing you even remotely have in common is you both hate your ex.


We saw this part in the promo. Kate has already started a bunch of eggs but only now asks the children do they want eggs. Ah, narcissists are so fun. Nice little trap there, because the only answer is really yes. I mean, yes please, Mommie dearest. If you don't want eggs, you'll be punished for the ungrateful little brat you are. Or at the very least you're made to feel guilty because Jane already spent so much time and energy preparing them so lovingly for you while you got your sleep.

Quick shot of Mady doing her hair in the bathroom. Eek, that's creepy. Can we at least leave the bathrooms off limits? Mady looks really different without makeup. I didn't realize how much she was wearing before.

Poor shmoopy has been home a lot more since the traveling has dried up. She must hate that. Good.

It's hard for Baby Jane to grasp that her children can pour their own cereal these days. No, she really says this. These children are 10 and 13. Shouldn't she be well used to this amazing feat by now? I heard they have started walking too, and drink out of cups. A few are even talking in full sentences. Shmoopy makes sure with every boring thought she shares with us we notice that she spent 49.99 getting her nails all dolled up for the occasion.

Yes shmoop, the kids are self-sufficient now. Which is just the first step in them NOT NEEDING YOU ANY MORE WHICH MEANS YOU'RE IRRELEVANT. Ha-ha, you're toast, shmoops.

"Vacuum up Christmas tree needles" needs to be written into their lengthy and painful chore charts? Only shmoops could suck the ever living joy out of Christmas by making a chore out of picking up after Jesus.

The kids have been asking what it was like when they were babies, like how did they take care of them all. That's kind of cute. Shows they really are getting older and are finally understanding what they are and what that meant when they came into the world. Why wouldn't you just love this time in their lives instead of constantly pining after the baby years? Kids who ask questions about themselves when they were babies are fun!

A few boring flashback clips. The most we see of Jon are his hands feeding the babies a banana. Still, I'd be calling up TLC demanding my cut, Jon!

The girls explain that the "only" chores the boys do are take care of their fifty chickens.  Oh well the only thing a farmer does is farm. Geez, they're mean. Also that's a lie, since we know from their chore charts seen on Wife Swap that the boys are also on bathroom duty. Kendra thought it was very unfair they never rotated the chores. Kendra is right. And Kate has learned nothing from that experience as nothing has changed. Basically the boys are still on constant shit duty, chicken, human or otherwise.

Kate says the reason they have chickens is so the boys can have a "man chore." Whoa, cue 1955. What the hell? How come you don't have chickens because they produce yummy eggs and are fun and feathery? Also as others have pointed out, chickens, Kate, are traditionally not a "man chore." She's so dumb and senseless it's painful. In fact there are a good number of paintings from the 19th century telling us exactly who has always done this work.

 Julien Dupre, French, 1851-1910

 Oh she's such a bitch. She's praying for the boys, because it's not optimal to be raised by just your mom.  First of all they see their father every other weekend and have a dinner date once a week. It's entirely unfair to imply he does not also raise them. They are usually in school or on the bus from sunup to late afternoon; it's not like they see much of Kate during the week. How much quality time can they possibly spend with her during the week between homework, activities and other obligations and eight kids in the house? So practically speaking it really amounts to each parent sharing the only time when no one is running around like crazy equally. And I bet they don't spend all their time with Jon choring, so the time is of higher quality. Plus she leaves them at the drop of a hat for weeks at a time to go screw around in New York City on the set of Celebrity Apprentice or go live with the Basketts in Calabasas, so they have been without her plenty. I think she knows exactly how condescending she sounds toward Jon when she says she's praying for his fatherless children. And ironic too since she dropped the religious schtick ages ago. She doesn't even try to claim they're watching the church services on streaming anymore. Do you remember how religious they were in the beginning? I mean it was heavy. It's funny how God completely went by the wayside, only to be resurrected when He's needed to slam Jon. I for one am praying to God that He in his infinite wisdom will un-fix her face because whatever He did to it it's not pretty.



Some old clips of Aaden, who was probably the cutest of all the babies. He's grown into a pretty cool kid, with rad glasses and a fun belly laugh. I really like the boys. They tease each other but it's not usually nasty and cruel like the girls are. "Sometimes he's a little clueless. In a good way, in a good way!" Collin says. Ha. What's good clueless? I guess this would be good clueless:


Wook at him he's so cuteeeeee. Commercials! How many Amish shows does TLC have anyway? Couldn't they consolidate? As @localyocul pointed out, The Learning Channel has become the little people multiples cake channel. I will add to that the Amish little people multiples cake channel. I guess you will learn a bit about religion, a little bit about reckless reproduction, a bit about obscure medical problems, and a bit about baking. A well rounded education.

Mady gets her LAST REDEMPTION (cue the timpani) when she dares to suggest that the lame "fun things" Kate has planned over spring break might not be fun. That tragic clip has been discussed enough so I won't belabor it too much except to say Mady when you play the Game of Thrones you win or your die.

"I got those girls cell phones and ipads so I could take them away." She's realized she can get under their skin by cutting off their friends. She's good at shit like that. Cutting people off I mean. And getting under everybody's skin.

They can go to this play zone thing but they can only pick two fun activities to do. You may not pick one. You may not pick three. You will make your selections and write your name on the fun zone chart in blue marker for boys and red marker for girls. You will use capital letters, no cursive. Once you have made your selections the contract becomes binding. Should you fail in this mission, your joy will turn to ashes in your mouth.

The kids expressions are priceless. They're so dazed and most of them are hugging their knees. You would think she just told them where babies come from. It doesn't take a body language expert to dissect this one. They look both like Kate has never talked to them about fun before and like they're afraid of her. It's funny at first then mostly just disturbing.

Mady tells the little kids about one of the activities and says it's pretty dumb because you can't even touch the ball so don't pick that one. This really pisses Kate off, because apparently Mady is not allowed to give her siblings advice. As @Layla and others so astutely pointed out, the hook of this show was the dynamic between Kate and Jon. Now that he's been so marginalized they need someone new Kate can spar with. Cue Mady! Except, she's thirteen. A child. "Their developing self-esteem is at stake," Layla explained. "It's not a level playing field, and it's not fair."

The twins didn't want to go to play zone at all, they explain. Well, I'm sure they didn't. I've been to play zone type places and they're usually more for little kids. Plus who wants to go to something geared for younger kids with a bunch of your younger siblings. It's just normal to resist this and it's no wonder Mady is frustrated.

Mady explains that she's been trying to talk to Kate all day and Kate just blows her off. I can't imagine that. Kate says she can't talk to her because all she does is whine. Kate is making such a teenager 101 mistake here in that she is trying to debate the issue with Mady.

Mady is a teenager and this is why she has no filter, Kate says. Nope, Mady has lived with you for the past 13 years, that's why she's finally just laying it all out there, shmoops.

Like any mother-daughter relationship, sometimes we don't get along, Mady explains happily on the couch, probably some several hours or days later. Ha, sounds like Mady has been studying the Gosselin PR/BS manual like a good Shmoopy Youth. Kate is sitting right next to her ready to snap her fingers just in case.

Baw-haha, Kate dramatically talks about how she broke her "foot" last year and doesn't want to do that again.  Mom, you broke your toe, one of them explains. Toe, toe, toe! all the rest chime in forcefully. Kate, welcome to the concept of "ganging up." They've figured it out, and it's glorious.

Wow she's really pissed off that they're not letting her set the agenda here finally. Finally I am enjoying this show. "I don't really care!" she says with a childish wave of her hand. "It was broken and you still forced me to hobble about and feed you!" When all else fails pull the "I feed you so I'm the martyr so shut up" card. That's very mature. For that little stunt @AuntieAnne dubbed her the Hobbling Harridan. Lol, perfection. I'm proud to say it happens often on this particular blog.

I love how nothing, nothing is ever Kate's fault. Ever. It's not that she tripped on the island. It's that the island tripped HH. Heh, even the island wants out.

"There's nothing to yell about!" Kate yells.

Lol, the producer is soooo bored. "So you guys have a hard time making a decision as a big group?" he asked tiredly.

"Yes," the twins explain, equally bored.

At this point my DirectTV loses its signal. It's a clear sunny California day and my Direct TV only goes out about once a year, so this is weird. I can only conclude it's gone the way of the island too and can't stand this woman. It leaves me with a bizarre error message reading, "this location is not authorized." That sounds so final.

Well, a reboot did the trick and I'm back. That was scary for about two minutes. Now we're profiling Hannah, the golden child. Of course she's mature, kind and beyond her years, Kate explains earnestly. Why, it's hard to imagine she's part of the sextuplets she's so touched by an Irish angel.

The little kids are a little more on this planet. They say well, let's see how to describe Hannah. Hannah loves animals. Heh. Well yeah cause she's ten not Gandhi. It's a relief to know none of the kids appear to be nuts.

Commercials. Did you know TLC is offering life tips now? Naturally they're life tips for dummies, like keep an extra pair of flats in the office to slip on when you leave work and head to happy hour. Does their average viewer even go to happy hour? I thought most people watching this channel have either toddlers or grandkids and have to fill up on gas after work and swing by CVS for some wipies. I guess this is learning in any case. Nobody wants sore feet.

They spend an incredibly long time talking about the car situation, but they show a few clips of Jon helping the kids get buckled in so it's worth it. Kate "gave" the first BBB to Jon. Wait, the same BBB that they were grifted back in the day? Lol, I have never seen anyone so self-serving. Conveniently nobody makes mention of the two other cars she has including that Audi. Heh.

Some nice workers at Play Days organize some games for the kids. Mady doesn't want to be there, and Kate doesn't like her attitude. Mady explains it's not an attitude issue it's that Kate is not listening to her. Oh, Kate's listening, Mady. She'll just never respect or care about your wants and needs. Mady would be better off saying the opposite, that she does desperately want to be there. Then she might have a much better chance of getting to stay home.

The editors are cracking me up. When Kate talks about some meltdowns the kids used to have as babies, they show a clip of mostly just Kate melting down. Ha! Her number. They have it. And also, this is not a meltdown. This is a thirteen year old child with needs calmly and rationally telling her mother she would prefer not to attend this particular event. What's wrong with that?

Can you imagine if they made an entire series out of all this? I mean, absolutely nothing has happened and we're halfway through the show.

Jenna, Mady's best friend, shows up to Play Days and Mady is instantly much happier.

"You should have told me that. I hate surprises," Mady scolds. Had she just known Jenna was coming she says she would have been in a much better mood. I'm sure that's true. Kate, the bitch, says fine I just won't invite any friends next time then.

Ugh. Oh my God.

"Who does that?" Mady demands. Yeah that is pretty screwed up. I mean, surprises should have a purpose behind them, such as you don't want to spoil the birthday or anniversary surprise until the moment the gift or trip arrives. To withhold someone's friend from them, pretend like nobody's coming to help make this bearable for them, and watch your daughter be in a terrible mood all day because she thinks she's going to have to hang out with her younger siblings the whole time, is actually pretty sadistic. Kate likes to watch her children squirm, and I know there must be a word for that somewhere. Psychotic maybe?

They're playing some kind of variation of dodge ball and Kate is crazy eyes competitive. Well that's frightening to watch. Oh speaking of Crazy Eyes, there was a pop up food truck going around L.A. today promoting Orange is the New Black. A couple of my friends ran into it and posted photos. They had pie and, you guessed it, chocolate and vanilla swirl ice cream. That's so brilliant and fun. I heart that women's prison.

Like they showed in the beginning, Kate has an opinion about other people's parenting! Hypocrite. She even wrote an entire blog posts about how we should only build parents up called "Walk a Day in my Heels." Heh, tool. Thanks to @Kateisatwit for finding it. "It’s time for all of us to make a change whereby all parents truly stick together! Period! No more contests, no more darts; just support, help, and concern for each other!"

Hey, I don't have a problem if Kate disagrees with how someone parents. We're allowed to have disagreements and say so, that is how society progresses and does not become sheep and how we ultimately raise better children. Our goal as a human race should be to communally raise better children, even though we all have our own respective children. Because better children means the human race is stronger. Ultimately I think that's the evolutionary reasons behind why so many people give a crap about somebody else's parenting. I mean, somewhere along the way somebody felt the need to say hey Ezra maybe you should let your child speak at the dinner table once in awhile. Somewhere along the way somebody said hey Prudence maybe we shouldn't hit little Elizabeth here with that paddle. They did it because we all have a vested interest in making things better for society's children, or should.



A picture of pugs dressed up as pilgrims because it's my blog and I can.

But then that's going to go for Kate too. If she criticizes other parents then she too is subject to criticism.

So, she doesn't think parents should let their kids win. At ... anything? Ever?

Oh where to begin. Congratulations, shmoops, you beat a thirteen year old at dodgeball. No one is saying always let your children win. Although come to think of it, my sweet father always, always let us win. I don't think he is capable of beating us, his gentle heart just won't let him do it. That said, what kids need is a healthy dose of both. The need to win some things so they learn how to win, and they need to lose some things so they learn how to lose. The awesome posters on this blog suggested a game of chance like Candy Land to accomplish this goal. That way you don't have to be sort of "dishonest" in letting them win. They will win and lose sometimes in games of chance. So beat them sometimes, and don't beat them sometimes. I guarantee you when they have properly learned how to handle both, they will ask you not to let them win anymore. Just be patient, it comes at about age 15. All that results in never letting your kid win is a child who grows into a frighteningly competitive adult who takes pleasure in pummeling little children with red nerf balls and can't get a date because Dad never let them win at Connect Four when they were seven.

You know her "don't let them win" attitude stretches across the board. It's clear whenever Mady engages with her Kate must have the last word on it and she'll swipe iphones and torture them with surprises and such to be sure she "wins."

Kate's so psycho out there on the court that Mady hurts her knee trying to keep up. Even while Mady is still limping Kate keeps going, just outright pummeling her until she wins. Then she tries to hug her, but Mady dives away in disgust.

"I'm sorry. I had to," Kate says later on the couch.

"I don't accept your apology," Mady retorts. Good, because that wasn't an apology.

Mady and Cara have the same personalities as they did when they were younger only Cara is more beaten down and Mady is more bitter. They show a little montage. It's good to see the twins seem to still like each other and have remained close. Mady needs constant reminders to take on a task to the best of her ability and win, Kate explains.

Win what? Life is not one giant game of Hungry Hungry Hippos, geez. Why is it so important to her the kids be so competitive? Hard-working, yes, but competitive? That can definitely be a negative trait especially when it comes between you and knowing when to quit. This is so funny because Kate doesn't seem to appreciate that this is exactly how Mady behaves towards her. She takes Kate to task and must win. And she does a pretty good job of it for a 13-year-old. It's become a battle of wills of epic proportions, and the awesome thing is there will be at least five more years of this karma every day for shmoops.

They flashback to the time when they ice skated for the first time. I really appreciate how respectful TLC is being to Jon. Every clip of him shows him being a loving and attentive father. For instance his gentle hand on Mady's back when she fell on the ice. I forgot how patient and gentle he generally was with the children when they were little. A few moments of frustration can be forgiven when the vast majority of the time you are very kind and attentive.

Back to today, and these kids still can't ice skate? Wow this is bad. Geez every kid living in the Northeast should know how to do that by now. Joel is the perfect child, Kate announces. I'm sure the other kids appreciate hearing that. Oh, the kids know she feels that way so don't worry, she explains. Oh, okay then.

Kate can't even stand up on the ice. Where has she been the past 39 years? She gets on a chair and the kids push her around. "Is this how you're going to push me when I'm old?" she asks. Eh, maybe. Though I imagine that may look something more like this:



The ice skating wasn't so bad. They had fun and Kate was okay to them, minus making it all about her when she made a spectacle of herself out on the ice..

Some of the younger kids are playing in the living room. Seemingly without provocation Collin blurts out to Hannah that her hair is ugly. Probably just pent up frustration since it's not fun to be the scapegoat and watch the golden child be treated like princess for a day every day.

Kate yells at him across the room that he shouldn't say things like that and we should only build others up. Oh, so that's what that little rampage she went on against the non-fans last year was about, building others up? What about when she ripped Kendra a new one with a laundry list of issues and basically accused her of being lazy and waited on hand and foot by Hank Sr.? Heh.

Collin looks absolutely crushed and just when I think she's really shut him up for good, he says, I was just being honest, it was ugly.

Oh shit.

Collin's eyes are full of tears. Poor kid. Kate explains that he needs to put his words through a filter and instead of saying that's ugly, say something like, "I've seen it look better." Haha. Oh, yeah cause that's so much nicer. Good grief. It's rather amusing watching someone with some of the worst social skills I've ever seen lecture her son about social skills. I especially like the part where she instructs Collin not to be honest. Well, that's confusing. I kind of look like Carrie Ann right now, cheek resting on my hand, just sort of equally fascinated and incredulous of this borg.


Oh and hey how about Leah tattling on Collin and making sure Kate heard what he said. Whatever Leah. There's sibling rivalry, and then there's sibling nastiness, and what I've seen so far is just nasty and goes way beyond normal sibling conflicts. Any one of them will sell anyone else down the river just to survive. There's no loyalty or compassion at all from especially the sextuplet girls, and I fear for their sibling relationships later on in life.

There's really nothing else Collin can say to this nonsense but "yes." Which is what Collin says. Yes, Mom. Sure, Mom.

The old clips of Collin they show are mostly sweet. It's oh so appropriate to call your child "manipulative." What? He's your child, not Lisa Vanderpump. He's also challenging authority. Rise up, proletariat.

Kate's done what any fun mother would do over spring break and filled it up with doctor appointments. Actually, I don't mind that. It's better that they not be pulled out of school. Although like anything this is probably more for Kate's convenience than the children's. The twins say they always get dragged along. Why? They're thirteen. Surely they can stay home alone for a few hours and watch T.V. or something. Or is Kate afraid they might google? You know I have a theory on her paranoia over Google. I don't think it's that she's afraid they'll see something about the family and their feelings will be hurt. Rather I think she's pretty darn afraid they will see some of the countless negative things written about her, Kate, and might actually agree with it! After all, there are numerous articles from numerous well known publications, many relying on psychologists and other parenting experts, criticizing her parenting and taking up for the children. Her own former employer The Stir thought that the incident where she took Mady's iphone away was handled terribly by Kate. A kid like Mady would print that out just to prove a point. No wonder Google frightens Baby Jane.

You know there are so many little things in this monstrosity I could spend forever on this recap, but just one of them is Hannah randomly hitting Leah as they cross the street. I know she then hugs her, but I find this behavior very strange and inappropriate especially from a ten year old. But it's just allowed, no repercussions at all. Why is that? The rules in this family are arbitrary, and enforced arbitrarily, and the resulting chaos is not at all surprising.

Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be for a ten year old to have a camera crew along for doctor's appointments? It was bad enough when they were little.

In another of the rare nice moments, the kids all help Aaden pick out a new pair of frames. He seems to love the attention and Kate does another good thing in that she has the kids give a thumbs up or thumbs down to the various frames. Now there is a fun way to help someone out with something that might end up "ugly" on them, without hurting their feelings. I agree with Kate for once, he is extra cute in those glasses.

Kate really liked their third birthday party carnival and wants to recreate it. For a ten-year-old?? I don't know. I don't think the kids remember a darn thing from their third birthday party, that is really a stretch. I think they're remembering the episode. At least Aaden admits he really doesn't remember a thing from when he was little. Ha, so much for the memories. He should get his money back!

Kate announces her scathingly brilliant idea, and the kids immediately think it's the dumbest thing they've ever heard.


Lol, waa-waa.

Because it's a narcissist, they have a fake debate about this but ultimately the carnival theme is of course going forward full steam ahead. Zorro is so cute on Kate's shoulder chewing away on Kate's shirt like he owns the place.

It's great the way the kids constantly poke holes in Kate's catfish of a life on Twitter. You know how shmoops is always posting shit from their parties like bowls of pretzels and Super Bowl cakes like sort of a poor man's Good Housekeeping spread. Hannah explains that actually when they throw parties all Kate does is complain about how she doesn't want to do any of this. Heh.

Because Kate is a tease, she hints, hems and haws about some big thing she has dreamed up but in typical Kate fashion won't tell us what it is. I think the speculation on the blog that it's that Jonas brother who she was on Celebrity Apprentice with is spot on. I guess that might be okay for some of them but for the boys, I doubt this would be that big of a deal.

Mady also thinks this is one dumb idea, which is correct. Kate blames Mady for influencing the sextuplets.

Actually, I would like to point out that the sextuplets all immediately hated the idea and that Cara and Mady, even though they were sitting right there, did not say anything, look at any of them, or influence them in any way. They came up with the notion that they hated it on their own. It was only later when asked Mady said look I really don't care it's not my birthday, but if you're honestly asking, yeah I think it's dumb. So suck it, Kate.

Well this is sad and hard to snark about. Mady said she hopes the younger kids don't look up to her because she's a bad role model and just sits on her bed all day. Is she serious? Well, that's not normal. Cara mutters something about Mady threatening the tups.

Okay, this just took a rather creepy turn. Moving on please!

Leah bellyaches that it's not "fair" that whenever they have something going on Mady and Cara get to have friends over.

What the hell? I'm 100% on the twins side for this one. Of course they should be able to have friends over as much as they want as long as homework and choring and any other commitments are done. Especially when it's something going on with the younger kids. They are thirteen for gosh sakes and shouldn't be dragged along to every single thing that's happening with the ten-year-olds without a buffer. And also, it's really none of Leah's business whether Cara and Mady have friends over and when. That's Kate's call when they are with her and Jon's call when they are with him, period.

What's funny about this is that Kate has absolutely no control over any of this. The kids bicker like cats and dogs, are rude and unreasonable and nasty to each other and their mother, and she has no idea, none, how to get everyone to calm down, breathe and be kind. For all her condescending parenting blogs, these kids are just a mess of chaos and disrespect. To be clear, it's not their fault, and they are desperate for structure and a more pleasant environment, but it's not like Shmoops has set her sights on giving that to them any time soon. The priority here is "filming" not happiness. This pretty much validates everything Jon said last year about their struggles socially. It's hard to imagine very many kids would want to be around any of this.

Mady explains that the sextuplets intruded on her whole life plan when she was three and a half. Lol. The life plan was to not have six brothers and sisters, in case you were wondering.

Yeah, I don't think anyone's life plan includes six little siblings, says Cara, which is the most this poor kid has said in this entire episode.

In seriousness though, it's obvious both the twins have built up massive resentment of this whole situation over the past ten years and they don't even care at this point about blurting it out. Now that they are older, wiser and much more aware of everything, I think their anger has only gotten worse. Therapy would help them both. They desperately need to deal with these feelings somehow or risk never having a healthy relationship with their family. I'm not really sure what they are talking about when they say they are manipulative, but I think they think they have somehow conned Kate about this party and friends. You've lost me there though I do believe them when they say they've got Kate all figured out. Oh you bet they do.

That was a "negotiation session," according to Kate. Oh. I thought it was a knock down drag out. My mistake.

The famous Hannah pooped in Hannah's underwears clip that all the creepy sheeple love. Gross. Kate complains Leah's voice is like a machine gun. That's nice.

Commercials!

Kate and the younger kids head to a party store where Kate quickly finds a bright pink clown wig for herself. Hey, the model on the package looks just like Shmoopy. She should do appearances.

"Come an' get yer popcorn!" Kate cries. Hey, that's our line!

"Please no!" Leah cries. Ha.

Alexis gives Kate some lip in the store and when Kate reprimands her Alexis tells her, "good!" Ha, omg. Alexis has probably always been the most dynamic of the kids, and as a result probably has the most creepy fans of all of them. Remember that fan in Tennessee who even had her name tattooed on her. Yikes. Kate chews on one of those ugly white nails of hers.

Her favorite food is salmon. That's unusual. I like the metaphor of poor little Alexis swimming upstream against the narcissist that is her mother.

The kids continue to be "rabid beasts" at the store, says Kate. Well they're cute rabid beasts anyway, like this one.


 Any parent would say that about their children, says Kate. That they're rabid beasts? Uh, no! Gaa, stop speaking for all parents. It drives @Vanessa and I, and many others, nuts!

You know, I agree with her, the kids were being downright obnoxious in the store. They were rude and I've never seen children with such a lip on them so constantly. It's super uncomfortable. But, that's Kate's fault. It doesn't have to be this way. Parenting would help. Try it sometime. What Kate does, which she calls parenting, is whine. She constantly whines to them about their behavior and then suggests other often equally bad behavior or only slightly better behavior in its place. Maybe that might work for some children but it's not helping for these kids. In fact it seems to be making it worse because they've learned they can keep pushing her buttons without anything but a lecture. And sometimes even talk her out of or into things they shouldn't. In other words they're playing her like a puppet with strings. Oh what a lovely role reversal. I also strongly suspect a lot of this behavior is due to years of pent up aggression for all kinds of reasons we all well know of, and the whole family needs to go to therapy for that, for starters. In any case, the great tragedy here is that this woman appears utterly clueless that what she thinks she does so well she just downright sucks at.

Kate says the party could be pulled off if the twins wake up in a good mood. Gaa she's such a tool. And mean. And obnoxious. I ate ate! Cara's body language is terrible. She's bending her head and covering her mouth with her hand. It's like the Today show redux. Interestingly enough Kate has not been invited back since that stunt.

Next time on Kate Plus 8, the birthday party is nearly ruined by gale force winds, and Kate gets stuck to a giant Velcro wall. Leave her up there, kids. Revenge for all those years of Velcro shoes. See you next time!

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Bitchy Pants said...

Just to give some of you an idea of what CPS can be up against, here's a capsule of a case that crossed my desk shortly before I retired. It still gives me nightmares. Three month old infant was seen for failure to thrive. Work up and xrays showed spiral fractures of both arms. For the uninitiated, spiral fractures are caused by twisting of the limbs and, except for extremely rare and freakish accidents, are caused by abuse. Infant was placed in emergency foster care and mother was charged with abuse and ordered to take parenting classes. She took the classes, had a couple of supervised visits and then petitioned the courts to have custody restored. Her social worker strongly advised that the child remain in foster care and the mother be given limited, supervised visits. Judge overruled the recommendation and restored custody, with minimal supervision. Two weeks later, infant was seen in the ER, unresponsive, with a massive skull fracture. Seems the mother got tired of her crying, picked her up by the heels and swung her head into a toilet bowl. At the time I saw the case, she was 4, unresponsive, on a ventilator, in a persistent vegetative state, being cared for in a nursing home. TFMJGs kids are suffering, but unless Jon can manage to find a judge to award full custody to him, there's little to no chance that those kids will be able to escape until they are older.

If the school counselor has been expressly forbidden by TFMJG to meet with the children, he or she would risk losing job and, possibly, license by doing so. Counselors are mandated reporters, not mandated investigators.

Vanessa said...

I'm calling it! STAGED!! that whole bird in the cake was STAGED
she is the WORST actress
What a joke!

Vanessa said...

My God! Bitchy Pants
It takes a lot for me to cry, that story has me tearing up.

Why? Why does God let these people have children?

Tucker's Mom said...

It looks like Kate baked 3 boxed cakes, and was spreading ready to use icing on it.
Watch the clip- there are 3 white buckets on her kitchen island, cleverly turned around so you can't see the label, which probably reads:

http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-White-Ready-Decorator-4-5lbs/dp/B000WY96Q8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403725397&sr=8-1&keywords=icing

Guess who carries Wilton cake decorating products?

Michaels.

I'm shocked. Shocked.

Jumping In said...

Kate has an ex-husband who would happily co-parent with her, communicate with her for the sake of their children, who is she kidding? TFW has cut every willing relative out of their lives who have pitched in the past to help out, so, again......spare me. Why does People magazine continually give Kate a platform to spew this nonsense? Just one hard question would be so refreshing, just ONE!

As for the clip, two very obvious options: Call a bakery, and order a proper birthday cake, or, take a knife, cut out where the bird landed and fill it with icing. This woman is the drama queen of all drama queens! And, was that store-bought icing?

Regarding the Radar Online article, I'll give them credit for contacting Robert Hoffman for his comments. I was surprised they ran the piece at all. Robert's comments were about power, money and Kate being able to control the narrative. This is the way the world spins it seems, but he fought the fight and got the other side of this heartbreaking story out, kudos to him.

Jen said...

sparkle.......29

it's both fascinating and frightening, especially because there are three minor children involved and if I read correctly somewhere, one is already having problems and another may be autistic? It would be interesting to see a good psych work up on her.

Vanessa said...

As I watched that second clip I couldn't take my eyes off what on earth Zorro was eating. It looked like a long strip of cellophane or maybe Saran wrap. I can't wait for the bird lovers/owners chime in about the clip!
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Yeah? what was that?

White Organza said...

She cries behind closed doors....

And during the couch interview; and on the View, rummaging in her purse; and on Dr. Phil, I can't remember why; and while holding hands with Dr Drew; and, according to Hannah, after holding any party for her kids... So: what's new?

chefsummer #Leh said...

I'm shocked. Shocked
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Why lol?

We all know that Kate i a lying liar who steals people recipes.

Gabby2 said...

So People Mag wants us to believe it's Krazy Kate that is the victim in all this??? NOT the children she has abused?? No one but a NUT creates multiples on purpose.

And I bet those kids are the ones that cry behind closed doors. What she did on camera to Collin was sadistic. IMO

I will NEVER buy another People Mag....and anyone that advertises on TLC will be black balled!

Vanessa said...

Kate does indeed want to be considered a supermom, come on now
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yeah, that stuck out for me too

lukebandit said...

I think a "crew daddy" threw the bird into the cake!

What a circus that place is!

Vanessa said...

If the school counselor has been expressly forbidden by TFMJG to meet with the children, he or she would risk losing job and, possibly, license by doing so. Counselors are mandated reporters, not mandated investigators.
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So can they report that a parent has specifically forbidden a child to speak to them?

Vanessa said...

Shades of soup making day with all the cartons of soup on the counter.

FYI said...

As I watched that second clip I couldn't take my eyes off what on earth Zorro was eating. It looked like a long strip of cellophane or maybe Saran wrap. I can't wait for the bird lovers/owners chime in about the clip!
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That's probably the plastic strip that is used to seal the lids on the tubs of icing.

I agree the whole thing was staged. Zorro was on the counter and she says "No, you can't come over here" and then she lifts him and puts him back on that tree thingy. Then she tells him "Zorro-just please-for 5 more seconds just stay" and then she turns her back on him and walks over to the sink.

What did she expect would happen? Why didn't she put him in his cage while she was doing the cake? She really expected him to listen to her?

Totally staged and just showing what a dumbass she really is to boot.

sparkle said...

Jumping In said... 37
Kate has an ex-husband who would happily co-parent with her, communicate with her for the sake of their children, who is she kidding? TFW has cut every willing relative out of their lives who have pitched in the past to help out, so, again......spare me. Why does People magazine continually give Kate a platform to spew this nonsense? Just one hard question would be so refreshing, just ONE!
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Agree, totally. She threw away her "itttt's soooo harrrrrrrrrrrrd fooorrrr meeeeeeeeeeeeee" card when she cut ties with every member of her family, kicked her husband out and began bribing the kids not to go to his house. With a proper support system, it wouldn't be sooooooo haaarrrrdddddd. Instead, she has tried to buy people to take the place of a support system and it doesn't seem like anyone has been able to stay in her employ for very long.

Speaking of.. did anyone see the incident in the chapter of new info where a college-age nanny once tried to stop Kate from driving after drinking and visibly slurring her words? She volunteered to run Kate's errands for her. Kate flipped and told her to MYOB and do her job, not offer her opinions or something like that. When Kate got back from the errands she fired the nanny.

Vanessa said...

oh, and imagine how she would have reacted had it been one of the kids poking their fingers in there to have a taste?

lukebandit said...

Did they ever come out and say because Zorro messed the cake up that she had to order a new one? Or, are they passing the one that they show as the one that she FIXED?

She said she couldn't serve it. Well, my goodness, Miss Thang, that cake there would not be enough for everyone that came anyway. I know the one I saw, it had all the kids names on it and I thought it was a cute cake, the one that was finished.

I saw the People clip of her struggling to get the carts out the door for the camera. Wow. That never happens. She always demands someone to help her. There is a federal law under the disabilities act, that if a disabled person asks for help in their store, they have to provide assistance or help.

She ain't disabled!

Blowing In The Wind said...

So can they report that a parent has specifically forbidden a child to speak to them?

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Why would they do that? Report to whom?

Bitchy Pants said...

Vanessa 46 -- Good question. I have no idea. I doubt it would do any good. It's not illegal to request (order) the school counselor to stay away from your kid. If there are no visible signs of abuse, ??? Admin -- care to weigh in here?

Vanessa said...

So can they report that a parent has specifically forbidden a child to speak to them?

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Why would they do that? Report to whom?
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To CPS because, as was mentioned earlier, it's a red flag

FYI said...

People.com has some pictures of the party. I guess they were the ones that were in the last issue. They have a picture of the cake and the caption says:

THE BIG TOPPER
To commemorate her children's 10th birthday, Kate commissioned a cake shaped like a circus tent. The Gosselins also threw a circus party when the sextuplets turned three. "It was my dream to reinvent our carnival theme from their 3rd birthday party," says Kate," and make it bigger, better and on a grander scale."

That cake looks nothing like the cake that Kate was supposedly decorating.

http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20827150_30174601,00.html

That whole scene was staged to give a reason why they didn't have a "homemade" cake for their party.

Call Me Crazy said...

OT. I don't know if there are any Survivor fans here, but I just heard that Caleb Bankston, who was on Survivor: Blood vs. Water, was killed yesterday in a railway accident. He was 26. Very sad.

Layla said...

Call Me Crazy (53)
I read that earlier today. So sad--Caleb seemed like such a nice guy. My kids and I never miss a season of Survivor, and he was one of our favorites that season. You always want to see a decent person win.

Vanessa said...

That whole scene was staged to give a reason why they didn't have a "homemade" cake for their party.
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Yup. explains the bird purchase, the pics, the tweets.
She's named as one of the producers?She's been creatively brainstorming this storyline for some time now.
Maybe that's why she doesn't take her meds, this sort of stuff would never come about!!

AuntieAnn said...

Yeah, I'm puddling up as I write.

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Oh me too, Tucker's. I can barely pull myself together long enough to type. She suffers so.


Seriously. I DO NOT like the way she grabbed Zorro and held his feet under the tap. For crying out loud you idiot! Take it easy.

NJGal51 said...

I have to laugh at them showing her "mixing" frosting with eleventybillion pounds of butter in it when you can clearly see (in another shot) the tub of frosting that she's dipping out of. Did they purposely do this to make her look like an idiot?

Katykat said...

Only thing she does behind closed doors is:
1) Hide from the kids
2) Look at herself in the mirror
3) Drink
4) Steve

Call Me Crazy said...

Oh, but wait...poor Kate is trying so hard to maneuver those free party favors and decorations out the door and it looks so hard.

Gee, I wish someone would open the door for her.
Too bad there's no one there to help her.
Oh, my.

This is just breaking my heart.
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Oh, Tucker's Mom. I feel your pain! Such a tragedy. Not to mention that she also risked breaking a nail while doing all that maneuvering to get out the door! I just don't know how she manages to go on in the face of such trials and tribulation.

I would loan you my hankie, but it is sopping wet with my own tears.

Unknown said...

I have only posted a few times here, and not recently as I have been taking this all in. However, I saw this on my Facebook feed. It is from Hope for Shaken Baby Syndrome: https://www.facebook.com/HopeForShakenBabySyndromeInc/posts/802343546466954
Here it the entire post I linked:

Contemplated not posting this, for the fact of celebrity and sensationalism, but seeing as how many people know of this person and the level of fame she had achieved, it's important to bring cases like this to national attention. We are not concerned with the claims of her lies and deceit as a whole, we are more concerned by this passage:
"Kate had no patience with the children. She never played with them, didn't help them with their schoolwork. She hid in the kitchen and let volunteers take care of them but she meted out the punishments becoming easily enraged if they got dirty playing or disobeyed her with a very minor infraction.
'She punished them with what she called 'the spanker' until the child 'happied up' according to Kate
She punished them with what she called 'the spanker' until the child 'happied up' according to Kate.
She wrote in her journal that she couldn’t control two-year-old Collin, one of the sextuplets. She had him sit in the corner for doing things she thought he did just to irritate her and was admittedly rough with her punishment.
She had meltdowns, made the children strip down, spanked them a lot, pulled them by their hair.
During his time as a reporter, the author befriended Jon Gosselin and was able to read kate’s journal, in which she confessed, 'I spanked them so hard!!! I felt like I may hurt his children. I grabbled him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him. I was out of control'.
She was so out of control she had to pray to God to help her stop, says the author.
When the two-year-olds got into the Kleenex box, she spanked all six of them and put them in a corner. When Aaden was on his fifth day of potty training, he had an accident on the floor that elicited a spanking. 'Kate felt that five days was more than enough time for a two-year old boy to become potty trained’.
She would throw all the kids' toys in the trash along with school projects, and kick the boys' Lego buildings into a million pieces if they weren't put away.
Discipline was the Gosselin children’s ‘normal.’ They got their daily spankings and Kate insisted they loved it, or so she believed.
The two family dogs, Shoka and Nala, were subjected to Kate's tirades and abuse when Jon was away from the house. 'Kate would use a stick, a spoon, a tube or whatever else she had to discipline the dogs for minor infractions that dogs commit, like tracking mud into the basement' after coming in from a pouring rain.
'She locked them outside in the freezing rain and snow and left them to watch the family through the basement windows'.
'Kate Gosselin is cruel and she seems to enjoy the power that she has over children, animals and adults'.
One of the boys was punished for having the dog, Shoka in the basement when he was supposed to be outside. The dog pooped by the door and Kate brought the child down to the basement, screaming at him and pointing out the mess. ‘
‘To show her complete domination of the child, she grabbed him by the back of his neck and forced his face down to within inches of the mess, trying to rub his face in it. He struggled and resisted and ended up with only a spanking instead of a face full of dog feces’."

Whether or not these allegations are true, is yet to be seen. I did not personally watch this show. However, it's clear that if this is truly how she was treating her children, this is child abuse, and cruel and unusual punishment.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Why would they do that? Report to whom?
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To CPS because, as was mentioned earlier, it's a red flag

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There must be a reason or concern or suspected abuse to report an incident to CPS. Refusing to allow a child to speak to a counselor is not a reason. She would cite privacy concerns because of her "celebrity" status. If CPS is called in, there needs to be something to investigate. What would they investigate? Just a parent's refusal to let the child speak? I don't think that's enough.

Vanessa said...

I agree NJgal. But she IS an idiot for leaving the tubs out herself. I don't get her. Does she do this stuff herself on purpose or she's too lazy to really step back and do the work of a "producer" such a mystery!

PJ's momma said...

How can there be 2000 pounds of butter in three pre-packaged tubs of frosting? Unless she made butter cream for between the layers and then used the tubs for the outside frosting, since they showed her using the bowl and then the tubs. Oops, made myself laugh there!!!

Millicent said...

When I went to bing just now, the top story was titled "Jon Gosselin" with a picture of Kate. I clicked and the top 3 stories were about Robert's book being released and the shocking revelations in it! Way to trend TFW! Milo must be so proud.

Layla said...

Wait a minute, what's with all the media stories about the book and Kate's abuse of the kids? The sheeple swore that the media would have NO interest in the book or any of the allegations. Of course, a week ago they also swore that the book would never come out. It must be hard to be wrong all the time.

jennine s said...

Well why didn't she bake her so called famous chocolate cake? She said that it is traditional for each birthday. She said she even sends it to friends! I'll bet UPS has fun with that one.

jennine s said...

I would think that the school counselors would report to CPS that the children are not allowed to speak to them. Maybe she has told the kids not to speak to the counselors. Have any of these allegations from Robert been reported to CPS?

Carole said...

Counselors are mandated reporters, not mandated investigators.
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So can they report that a parent has specifically forbidden a child to speak to them?


I don't believe so - at least not in my state. They're mandated reporters of suspected or obvious abuse.

Carole said...

Re: my comment ^ about JoJo Q - I see sparkle explained it very well. TY. I forgot key 4 words talking @ not being involved w/TFW but I omitted but is w/ BV. Sorry - using phone awkwardly and am prob confusing the issue.

Call Me Crazy said...

Shauna Dyer said... 63

I have only posted a few times here, and not recently as I have been taking this all in.
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Hi Shauna. I hope you will feel comfortable enough to continue to post.

Amy2 said...

According to NovelRank.com as of one hour ago Robert's book has sold 184 copies. Disclaimer from site: sales estimates are underestimated and actual sales may be higher.

TLC stinks said...

The bird won't survive until Xmas. You just wait.

Kylie said...

My son is a chef and has told me repeatedly that most buttercream is made with Crisco. Why? Because of the expense of butter. Besides Crisco just works better. I've had it both ways and I really prefer with Crisco. My point being, it's highly unlikely she had a product with pure butter in it. I mean, really for someone who is piecing and patching she's not going to spend that kind of money.

Vanessa said...

There must be a reason or concern or suspected abuse to report an incident to CPS. 

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I'm speaking specifically about these kids. Don't tell me the incidents leading up to the expulsions weren't directly associated with abuse. There HAD to be other signs/suspicions. We, the viewers saw
the signs. These are professionals with training in spotting the signs. The final flag would have been baby jane forbidding any counselor involvement.

Vanessa said...

The bird is a prop just like the kids

Formerly Duped said...

One thing confuses me: why are the kids so sassy , argue, and talk back to Kate when they surely still suffer the penalty of severeness? They sure have chutzpah! sometimes the boys seem like ghosts, but those girls all seem to almost frighten the beast.And Collin apparently still has challenging behavior?

TLC stinks said...

Although a minor child cannot give consent to see a school counselor (only the parent can until the child reaches 18) the minor child can "assent" to see the counselor without the parent's consent. My take is that she has forbidden them to speak to a counselor or there will be hell to pay at home.

lukebandit said...

Yes, I saw Zorro chewing on something plastic! Someone had to throw him into the cake and the way she grabbed him and put him under the sink. I wonder if she added butter to the STORE icing to make it taste like buttercream.

She was trying to channel Sandra Lee of Semi-Homemade.

If she commissioned a cake, that means it was thought of in the beginning of this Krazy Kircus and was ordered and bought and paid for by TLC.

It makes her look so dumb and makes me so mad that she thinks we are stuuuupid and will not call her out on her faux pas! But we do all the time. But the sheeple believe it and that is what matters to them.

Reminds me of the movie My Cousin Vinny. When the young guy who's cousin is the lawyer would say how he knew how the 3 shell game ball or the cards or what ever trick some guy was playing, he immediately spotted what and were it was. Same thing with the W.

We have her number. Is it just me or is this book starting to pick up steam and attention???

Rhymes with Witch said...

and anyone that advertises on TLC will be black balled! 42

I'm with you on this one. Problem is, TLC is.banned in this house. If anyone wants to share what advertisers they see when they watch anything on tlc(no judgment) I'd appreciate it.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Welcome Shauna!

Berks Neighbor said...

Can anyone find when TFW was at Michael's? Someone tweeted about it in May/June? I can't seem to find it. I'm just trying to figure out the timeline thing as to when she actually would have been making that cake, because the Wilton products she used would have been purchased there.

Berks Neighbor said...

FOUND IT! Admin actually did a blog post, but the post before it says that she was seen at Michael's on the 22 or 23 of May. So, my question is did she do that 'cake disaster' scene before or after the b'day party? 'Cuz you know it is the realist of Reality shows and all...Checking her twitter line, she was on twitter silence from May 21 - May 26....

getofftwitter said...

Formerly Duped: Why the kids are terrible, it's for the camera. They tell the kids to drama up, stage, script for the cameras. Cause, the bottom line is: nothing much has changed, in 2 1/2 years, yes, the kids all have grown, they are in different grades, 2 are teens, that is about it. Kate has to take them to a activity/sport thing, cause they advertized it in the promo, And People Mag Kate did not mention that the twins are in regular sports & activities at school or that any of the other kids are in anything and so they had to do the activity thing or Kate would look like a liar. Kate is trying to tell the world look my kids are in sports. Yeah, Kate for one day.

FYI said...

Kate was in Michael's the Wednesday before Memorial Day(May 21). Here are the tweets:

Rebecca ‏@rlpeyobntentces · May 21
@Kateplusmy8 get your shit out out of michaels, you're not relevant anymore.

Rebecca ‏@rlpeyobntentces · May 21
@ConcernedChick she had an entire camera crew in Michael's watching her shop and it was impossible to go down some isles.

getofftwitter said...

I have to share this funny/disgusting story with you guys, cause of the bird on the cake. When I was 16, (back in the stone age) I went to a friends birthday party, and her mom was a very bold type, no-nonsence type person. Anyway, she had put out a bowl of dip, with the chips, I ate some, and went to have some more and my friends little dog, went and took a couple of licks, of the dip. I picked up the bowl and took it to the kitchen, and my friends mom, took the bowl, took a spoon and scooped the top layer of dip into the garbage and handed me back the bowl, and said not a word or there would be hell to pay, I said you betch ya. I put the bowl back on the coffee table and said nothing. My friend ask why I was not having any chips & dip and I told her and she grab it and they had a little argument in the kitchen, I did not see that bowl after that. Her mom gave me the evil eye. Her mom must have been old school, thinking, you do not waste food. NO NO NO!

Anonymous said...

Formerly Duped said... 81
One thing confuses me: why are the kids so sassy , argue, and talk back to Kate when they surely still suffer the penalty of severeness? They sure have chutzpah! sometimes the boys seem like ghosts, but those girls all seem to almost frighten the beast.And Collin apparently still has challenging behavior?

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I think I can answer that question. When you are the child of a narc or abuser, you stick your neck out when you're in the presence of witnesses. You know there'll be hell to pay behind closed doors, but if you have the chutzpah, you'll risk it. It's the only sense of freedom you have and the only way to validate your feelings. It's also a way to fight back against the abuser because the last thing they want is to be embarrassed in public and have their facade dented.

PJ

My apologies if this is posted twice. Wonky internet connection today.

I am One of Eight said...

Regarding sponsors -I flipped over there last night and there was a Pizza Hut and Ikea commercial on. Then TFWs screeching voice came on and I couldn't do it, quickly changed back to Extreme Weight Loss or whatever that show is called.

LifeinOH said...

"Bitch PLEASE! Her eyes haven’t leaked anything but salty Botox discharge since 2010. Besides, any real tears that might have pushed their way through her busted tear ducts are the ones that come from not knowing where she’ll get the money for new clip-in hair extensions AND new acrylic nails. “Don’t make me choose! I can’t choose! I need both!” she cries from behind the door of her plastic surgeon’s office as she leaves her 16th voicemail that month to TLC. “Remember, I won’t give up. I need the money…er…I mean…my kids need the money. Yeah, that works. Speaking of work, if you’re just going to call me back and tell me to get a real job, save your breath, because being a desperate fame whore IS my real job now.”

http://dlisted.com/2014/06/25/kate-gosselin-says-she-cries-crocodile-tears-of-sadness-behind-closed-doors/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Formerly Duped said...

getofftwitter said... 90
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Maybe they do feel a little freer with the beloved crew there, but idk if they could act that well! In all the TV spots and clips and a few minutes of this special, the girls seem very rude to TFW and each other and they all argue and even say they dislike one another..I agree it doesn't seem like things have changed much at the McMansion. The one difference I see is that they backtalk Kate and she seemed intimidated. Maybe because she was also in front of a camera at last with them? It sure shows she's not the persona of Supermom she so wanted to project.

Formerly Duped said...

...and PJ, what you said makes sense too...

Molly12 said...

I think a "crew daddy" threw the bird into the cake!

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I thought the same thing. The camera was right there but only got a shot of the bird once it was in the cake flapping its wings wildly and not actually flying into it. Kate was way to calm when that happened. That was the dead giveaway that it was staged in my opinion.

Vanessa said...

PJ you explained so much better than I could have

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just noticed we're closing in on 1100 comments, and remembered
all the times some drive-by commenter would stop by to say the
blog's days were numbered, and it wasn't the same, and no one
cares anymore, or whatever. In the immortal words of Nelson
Muntz from "The Simpsons" -- "HA-HA!"

Mad props to Admin, Pool Boys, Cabana Girls, and any other
members of the merry blog band. And to the significant others
of all the aforementioned, who probably contribute in unseen ways!

Tucker's Mom said...

So, if Part II is the party- when exactly do we see Kate shuttling 8 kids hither, tither and yon for their individual interest activities??
In the clip on People (first one), Kate's going on about taking the kids everywhere, but all we see is old footage.

I don't get all the contrivances.

PatK said...

jennine s said... 70
Well why didn't she bake her so called famous chocolate cake? She said that it is traditional for each birthday. She said she even sends it to friends! I'll bet UPS has fun with that one.

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I'm sure she had made that traditional chocolate cake for them on their ACTUAL birthday.

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm sure she had made that traditional chocolate cake for them on their ACTUAL birthday.
June 25, 2014 at 4:40 PM
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Not one tweet or photo about it.
No evidence of anything special like a dinner and cake.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

TLC stinks said... 76
The bird won't survive until Xmas. You just wait.

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I have not watched the clip, nor will I watch the show. I don't want to see what she does to this bird. If the bird was eating a plastic strip, that bird could have died. For many, many years I have taken in rescue birds from homes where they were neglected, or from owners who just tired of them and no longer wanted the responsibility of caring for them. I just have very bad feelings about this bird. They are not toys. They are not props. They should not be in any kitchen, nor climbing on backs, nor perching on shoulders. If that bird should happen to nip at Kate if it's frightened for some reason, she's liable to throw it in a rage. I'm honestly surprised it has lived this long.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Millicent, I just went to bing.com at 7pm central time and I couldn't find one story about Kate/Robert. I checked top stories, entertainment, etc. Is this the website you are talking about?

jbranck1980 said...

I think the promo on People was probably part of the original contract to cover the sextuplets turning 10. It is already off the main page though....thankfully!

localyocul said...

Hey, the Soup is on at ten!

Rhymes with Witch said...

I just finished Robert's book and want to thank him, despite the fact that I'm a bit nauseous from reading it.
I will buy the dtv when it is released.

Having followed this saga since early on, only some things were "news", but reading it as a compilation was 'vomitous.'

I.hope it gains a lot of traction. More importantly, I hope karma comes a calling for Katie Irene. Those kids deserve a childhood, not life on a stupid platter.

Layla said...

I haven't heard a peep about Kate going on any shows tomorrow to promote the second special. Has anyone else? I have to wonder--weren't there any offers? Or did TLC tell her to stay home and be quiet? Very interesting….

Formerly Duped said...

TFW's relationship with that bird is weird. She claims to be an animal lover which she's obviously not.

Over In TFW's County said...

Old Gladys is really slippin up on the job. She's so busy with the "here comes rhymin simon" nonsense that she's not watching the weather reports to tell Kate that she's under a severe thunderstorm warning and she should get the kids out of the POOL!

gotyournumberKate said...

The sheeple hate the haters more than they care about the Gosselin kids. It's sad but that's the bottom line. It's no wonder they defend her. They're just like her.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

The bird was a prop?? I hope not.

As an animal lover I find that so disgusting.

#PoorLittleThing

White Organza said...

"Those kids deserve a childhood, not life on a stupid platter." (108)

Brilliantly put, Rhymes! That could be the title byline of this whole sad saga.

localyocul said...

I'm watching the rerun of Keeping Up with the Kardashians and Scott is trying to talk Kourtney into getting a "luxury" van...it's the same Mercedes sprinter TFW has. Well it's tricked out with leather seats etc but still. Piecin and patchin my ass

NJGal51 said...

@Kateplusmy8: @MichHarlington that's exactly the words my Grandpa always said to me! 'You're doing a fine job, sweet heart.' Thank you!!! #IMissHimSoMuch!
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When all else fails play the dead grandpa card because she #misseshimsomuch. Too bad the kids don't seem to be afforded the pleasure of k owing their grandparents.

njay said...

I will buy the dtv when it is released.
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Rhymes, what is dtv?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Isn't it funny how the only family members she ever claimed to be close to are all dead.

That's smart of her.

Anonymous said...

now Milo is telling fans that Khate's parents see the kids all the time- we just don't know it.

Pam

lukebandit said...

njay said...117

DTV is Dead Tree Version. A hard back book.

I said yesterday DTB, Dead Tree Book.

lukebandit said...

I still can't believe the W had the gall to make Jon ask the new dentist at his dad's former practice to give all the kids free dental. Jon and the dentist were both put on the spot.

The dentist should of said, No.

Call Me Crazy said...

Isn't it funny how the only family members she ever claimed to be close to are all dead.
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It's because she has something in common with them - she is just as cold as they are.

lukebandit said...

I have a google search and a bing search on my msn page and there is plenty on both about the W and Robert. I don't like bing, I like google better.

That picture of the W on ROL, wow! She looks mental and cooky spooky! hahaha

Katykat said...

Very interesting dynamic w/ the fans. On the one hand you have the few defending and arguing every allegation. Then you have the few that trying to talk about everything but. Happiness, Happiness, EVERYWHERE...although tweets are flying up on the TL about all of the awful acts of abuse Kate's committed. But none of them have the guts to ask her if any of it is true. I think deep down they know it is.

Lynne In RI said...

now Milo is telling fans that Khate's parents see the kids all the time- we just don't know it.

))))))))))))))

Kate needs to put on her big girl pants, grow some, and tell Milo flat out to mind her own business. Milo needs to be put in her place. Whether the kids see their grandparents or not, it is not Milo's business to be Kate's mouthpiece regarding the children's relationship with their grandparents.

Kate needs to rein her in. Milo can do more harm than good with her constant meddling. If I were Kate, I'd be furious and I'd tell her so. Milo said that Jon stole groceries; there was a restraining order against him; there is no way that Kate would have an abortion; Milo knows everything that goes on in Kate's house. Yeah, right. Time to muzzle that woman (or man).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't remember where this came from about the Dionnes but I found it in an old post. Downright eerie:


According to the accounts of the surviving sisters, the parents often treated them at home as a five-part unit, and frequently lectured them about the trouble they had caused the family by existing. They were sometimes denied privileges the other children received, and were more strictly disciplined and punished. They also received a heavier share of the house- and farmwork. They were unaware for many years that the lavish house, expensive food and cars the family enjoyed were paid for with money they themselves had earned.

NJGal51 said...

From The Soup "Celebrity Parenting News"...on the special Kate Plus 8 sextuplets turn 10 Kate reminded us that she subscribes to a very unique parenting technique known to childhood development experts as being a horrible bitch from the moment her kids wake up until they pass out from emotional trauma, here's a little sample (they show the clip of gaga ball) (Joel comes back on and says while looking disgusted) you know who beat you Kate? Your hair stylist (looks at the camera and smiles saying) you're right that was a low blow.

getofftwitter said...

Tucker's Mom: Kate did the shuttling of activities in part 1, to that Body zone place for sport activities. Which means the kids especially the tups are not in anything. Kates idea of shuttling kids to activities is to the store to Doctor appts, that was the shuttling. When Kate was describing each kid, she never mentioned any one interest or activity or sport, they did, not even that the twins were in anything. Which is odd, cause, when any of the other multi families had an up date, they would say that this kid was doing this, and this kid was doing that and what grade they are in etc, not too much info , but just enough to give you and anyone an idea that they have grown taste/ideas/etc changed. All Kate did was it seemed to repeat what she had describe of the kids in one of the books: I just want you to know and what she described on JK8 one time. To Kate the kids are still the same, just more of the same.
When they had an up date on the Hayes on Katie: Betty said some of the kids are in dance , sports, some have moved to HS, and that Rebecca was making some progress. Same with the Mccaughey septuplets, when they turned 16 last year, they were on the Today show.

Kate is in a time warp. She can not get past the fact they are not 4-5. That they can do for themselves, think for themselves and no longer need her help. Kate even admitted that just recently, they have been helping themselves in the kitchen: which means Kate is losing control of her kids. I also see a problem with the tup girls, they are tattlers, besides telling on the one boy about saying ugly hair, I don't know which tup girl it was told Mady that Kate had mixed the sausage grease with the eggs. Those kids must be a problem in school for tattling.

sparkle said...

Katykat said... 124
..... Happiness, Happiness, EVERYWHERE...although tweets are flying up on the TL about all of the awful acts of abuse Kate's committed. But none of them have the guts to ask her if any of it is true. I think deep down they know it is.
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I think they know it's true also Katykat. How about we turn their own game around on them?

Since the sheeple claimed that there was NO PICTURE of Kate holding hands with Steve at the concert IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. If there is NO PICTURE there is no PROOF.

Our rule can the be that until KATE SUES ROBERT, FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THE SUIT and WINS, every last word of what he wrote is the truth. She and her fans don't get the benefit of saying oh, it's all lies until a jury of our peers decides it's lies.

Martha said...

I can't put my energy into Milo...whoever that is. The more she irks TFW, the better IMO. I want TFW trapped, like the predator she is. I want the kids remove from her "care", and restored to their father. Suffering is too good for her.

Starz22 said...

I agree with pj about the kids acting out while filming. They know tfw won't do anything to make the kids stop whatever it is that they are doing. Eye rolls...smart comments...yelling...hitting...being mean...ect. It makes tfw look like she is supermom putting up with all of this. I'm sure the kids know they will have their asses handed to them after the crew is gone. But for a few hours of freedom,it's worth it to them.

As for people writing off celebs for the sometimes stupid commercials they do? Jenny Mccarthy? It's all about the money right?
I don't think I've ever been influenced by a celeb. Even as a kid. People cried that the camel and the cowboy was so powerful that they enticed people to smoke. Madonna was so free it made girls forget their own morals...Elvis grinding his hips made people lose it...the Beatles (John) fought Jesus and demand that you smoke pot.
When are people gonna get....You make up you'r own mind?
I'am a Clinton lover. The man is pure genius.The only president to have a surplus in how many years? In no way do I condone his affair..but...that was a private thing in his and hillarys marriage. In no way did it effect how he ran the country. If we had the media coverage and cameras from the start of the presidency ...we'd be looking at many things in history different.
A commercial is not going to make or break my world. I do have a mind of my own.

Beyond Disgusted said...

Not to defend Milo because I think she's whacko, but I wonder if she's so delusional that she lives in a self-created fantasy world in which she actually has convinced herself that she and Kate are best friends, she's part of Kate's family, and Kate confides in her. What happens when someone like that has their bubble burst and is forced to face reality?

Sue said...

Say what?

@MY_2BCOLLIES: @lizzi_2904 @Kateplusmy8 If you truly love animals you won't take part in the bullies lies about Kate or her fans or using a libelous book.

Let's see, tomorrow night NY Med is on at 10. It's some show with Dr. Oz. I wonder how many viewers Kate will lose to him. I don't like either of them so I won't watch either show.

PatK said...

sparkle said... 129
Katykat said... 124

Our rule can the be that until KATE SUES ROBERT, FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THE SUIT and WINS, every last word of what he wrote is the truth. She and her fans don't get the benefit of saying oh, it's all lies until a jury of our peers decides it's lies.

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I like that, sparkle!! That's exactly it.

Jeanne said...

Avenue Q is great! Schadenfreude; The Internet is for P***, etc.

I think Kate doesn't have a 3-in-one printer at home because she can't work it and definitely can't fix a paper jam. At Kinkos she has people to order around. She might even have some kind of freebie thing at FedEx or Kinkos or whatever. I'm more confused as to why some ESPN guy would see her. Where is she? I can think of no reason he would be in Wyomissing so she is probably not at home.

AK Magnolia said...

I've seen some comments about a bipolar diagnosis and medication. I have first hand experience with this and have great symptom control for my bipolar disorder using medication in combination with lifestyle management (no alcohol, very limited caffeine, good sleep hygiene, etc.). I have two points to contribute.

The first is that some people are diagnosed with bipolar disorder who may actually have a different disorder with similar symptoms. This is a problem because the medications used for bipolar disorder, mood stabilizers, may not be effective at all for them but can come with some really serious side effects.

The second point is that managing a mental illness is rarely as simple as taking medicine. Medication is certainly an important part of managing symptoms but it isn't the only part. Individual responses to various medications vary. Even after you find an effective medication protocol, it only works if it is taken regularly.

Medication compliance is a problem for nearly all chronic health conditions, mental or otherwise, especially if there isn't an immediate negative effect of missing a dose. It is too easy to slip, miss a dose here and there, forget to get refills in a timely manner, or start skipping doses to put off needing to pay for an expensive refill.

I am also a mother. I was fortunate because I wasn't parenting solo so my child had stability from other sources during times when I didn't have good symptom control. He was never abused, went with food or care, or was placed in a dangerous situation due to my mental illness, but he did have to spend time away from me while I was receiving inpatient care (always voluntary). This has more to do with the way my symptoms present and the strong social and familial network I have than anything else. Having multiples would have been horrible for me.

NJGal51 said...

Milo always makes me think of Marci Maven (Mr. Monk's biggest fan).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

AK thank you for sharing that.

I agree with you that sometimes a diagnosis is wrong and I also agree with you that meds aren't the only thing that help keep you stable.

I do want to emphasize that I work with the mentally ill every day and I've seen many of them can and are very GOOD parents. Just parents with special needs. Those who make a commitment to accept help and services often do quite well. In fact I have seen success stories that are just very moving.

Children DO want to be with their parents if they can and if we can help the family stabilize that's what should happen. In a way that makes this situation sadder, because I do believe Kate is a candidate for getting help and changing. From what I see of her she is very driven and very stubborn, which are actually qualities that could help her be dedicated to stabilization. But she can never seem to get past the initial hurdle of even recognizing there is a problem in the first place. Unless the court of law MAKES her recognize the problem I don't think she will.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I had a delayed reaction to TFW's "dumb girl question" about the gas
which she shared on Twitter last night. For pete's sake, she's raising
5 daughters. What's with the prehistoric gender roles she's feeding
into? First of all, she's 9 months away from 40, so she ain't no girl.
And what exactly is she trying to say about it being a dumb girl
question? That girls know nothing about cars? Is she a damsel in
distress? I thought she was Can-Do Kate? Why doesn't she turn
off the TV and crack a book, or look at a website, and learn about
how cars operate? She must be interested in 'em - she's got 3!

She's such a lousy communicator. Her gift of tweet is even
worse than her gift of gab. Zorro has a better shot at a seat
on "The View" than she does.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Didn't she say this is the first time she's done this?

Did she not have a generator during Sandy Hook? I remember because she was asking dumb gender stereotypical questions about that too. I wonder if it was a gas generator and if so who was filling it up?

Sometimes she outs herself about what really goes on there (hired help, constantly) without meaning to.

I also like when she tells us stuff to try to get us to feel sorry for her (I go off to my room to cry!) that actually just make her sound unstable. LOL.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Jeanne said: I'm more confused as to why some ESPN guy would see her. Where is she? I can think of no reason he would be in Wyomissing so she is probably not at home


Our local radio station is now considered an ESPN station, so it may be a similar situation near Kate's haunts.

Anonymous said...

I am about 1/2 way through the book. There must be way more horrible stuff about the expulsion mess.

Pam

fidosmommy said...

I stand by my belief that Milo is a sarcastic genius who has everyone believing she is an actual Kate fan. I've said before...I think she's yanking some chains on Twitter. I think her whole purpose is to annoy Kate and to help Kate look foolish. Too much praise often means just the opposite.

sparkle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 140
Didn't she say this is the first time she's done this?

Did she not have a generator during Sandy Hook? I remember because she was asking dumb gender stereotypical questions about that too. I wonder if it was a gas generator and if so who was filling it up?
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Lol! She didn't have a generator during #SuperFunSandy, her tweeties seemed kind of shocked by this.

So glad that Robert cold busted her dramatic and over the top twittersodes. She seems to know better now. I had forgotten about her over the top drama during the Oct. 2011 snowstorm, charging her phone in her car while keeping her tweeties on pins and needles for her next perilous tweet. According to Kate, by the end of the evening she'd lost almost all of her driveway trees, there was a foot of snow, she had no coffee all day and they only had cereal to eat that day.

In reality: she lost one tree, there was only 3.5 inches of snow, her landscaping company had already cleared her driveway, the roads were clear and just wet, full of people bustling about on a Saturday evening and she owns a very large gas grill she could have cooked on during the power outage. He has pictures of all.

Instead of just making the best of it with her kids, she spent the entire day making up complete lies to complete strangers. He makes this point frequently through the book. He doesn't begrudge that she has help. She has alot of kids and she can afford it. But stop lying about it. Stop manically tweeting about how you do it all and better than anyone else. It's all lies and worse, when the kids are home she tweets about how awesome she is instead of spending actual time with them. He reaffirms that Kate does only tweet when the kids are around and when she goes on twitter silence she's traveling and/or with Steve.

AuntieAnn said...

I also like when she tells us stuff to try to get us to feel sorry for her (I go off to my room to cry!) that actually just make her sound unstable. LOL.

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I know. She throws the best pity parties doesn't she? "There's me and there's eight kids, I don't think an hour goes by that I'm not reminded that those odds are completely unbalanced." Well duh, do ya think? Waaah.

Why doesn't she go ask Kody Brown if he's looking for another wife? That'll even out those odds. Bitch. Please.

NJGal51 said...

You do have a point fidosmommy - Maybe Robert is Milo. Wouldn't that be poetic justice. LOL!

Starz22 said...

I dont care what excuse people might give. At some point they saw a deranged mother...abusing the kids...hitting them...calling them out as fools and rabid beasts. Beating them into submission...Look how happy we are with our mom..ever giving....Giving up her own life...everything she does is for us!
I pray that you people know how much tfw has given up for us. We will write about it in our books once we are 18!
So...who will the lovers sue once our truth is told? Abuse is a scar carried for life...

Beyond Disgusted said...

These sheeple are as dumb as they come. Yes, indeed...that's what Kate needs right now -- to be reminded that she's hated. Sheesh! How can she ignore it when the fans keep telling her that she's not going to win a Miss Congeniality title?

Lisa Adcox ‏@poorbabi 41m
@Kateplusmy8 @AuntiePudentain Kate keep your head high.IGNORE THE HATE.Please ignore.

ncgirl said...

Don't know if this has been posted, but here's another Kate article from dlisted, the sarcastic site.

http://dlisted.com/2014/06/25/kate-gosselin-says-she-cries-crocodile-tears-of-sadness-behind-closed-doors/

"Every clip that TLC has released to promote their 2-hour special on Kate Gosselin’s never-ending quest to pimp out her litter of pups has done nothing but remind everyone that Kate’s still an awful, greedy, horrible shameless fame whore who would volunteer all 8 of her children as tribute for The Hunger Games if it meant she could get her rubber face on television........"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Off topic but just in case anyone gets overly excited in about 12 hours from now, please don't spoil the WC tomorrow. A lot of us will be at work and DVRing it! :) Thanks everyone!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

..I think she's yanking some chains on Twitter. I think her whole purpose is to annoy Kate and to help Kate look foolish. Too


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I can't rule that out, although if she is a catfish that's some dedication especially when Kate ignores her for weeks at a time.

fidosmommy said...

I can't rule that out, although if she is a catfish that's some dedication especially when Kate ignores her for weeks at a time.

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Being ignored plays right into it. The less Kate responds, the more Milo must tweet at her. That would greatly annoy Kate, which is the whole point of the game. Milo might fantasize that with the more annoying tweets, Kate starts to pull her extensions out as she screams at her newest pink iPhone. Ooooohh, what fun, sizzles Milo.

I don't know who Milo is, but I do think she's in it for a joke. Our interest has only added some extra chuckles for her.

JMO.

swingsandroundabouts said...

AK Magnolia, thanks for your informative and articulate post. Managing any illness requires proper diagnosis and consistent follow up even when it is difficult. It is not always easy so kudos to you for effectively managing your health and prioritizing your family.

Vanessa said...

Thinking about Kendra's tears on CWS. I wonder if any of the kids innocently let slip more than what they "should" have. You know, how dysfunction is their "normal". It could have been anything that to the kids is an everyday occurrence but to Kendra was shocking. Maybe all the consequences for not doing a chore properly? The punishment? Deanna couldn't gag all of them, could she? After a week (or was it 2?) of spending time with a "fuzzy bunny", they could have relaxed enough to let some stuff slip.

TLC stinks said...

Like I said before, Shoka exists ONLY as a watch dog for the property. A family pet? No way! The bird exists as a twitter prop. Look at how many pictures she's posted. The bird is a goner so it might as well poop on her head and take a chunk out of her plastic face too. I wonder whose job it is to clean up the bird poop? One of the boys obviously.

I know National Enquirer is a rag, but I do like a former nanny/housekeeper came forward, even if she got paid, to reveal what goes on. I knew someone other than the boys were taking care of those chickens. Ha!

There must be hell to pay at Steve's home these days. Either Gina has been one of those blind wives (I've known them) or she was ok with him doing Kate because their relationship only makes since to me unless they were doing the deed. The guy was just too close to her, too involved. No wonder she was in NYC last week without him. And don't say it's because he is working for TLC's Little Couple because that has not stopped him from being at Kate's side for years. I do not think he takes orders; he does what he wants. He is not low man on the totem pole for his business. Her stink is on him too. The guy knew she drank and was mean to her kids. What a douche bag.

TLC stinks said...

From Examiner.com:

The TV special shows Kate baking a cake and one can't help but wonder how often she really does that?

LOL LOL LOL
That was exactly my thought when I watched the People clip! Bam!

You know what? I think a crew member threw the bird onto the cake and Kate was not prepared for that. Why? Take a look at her eyes when she sees Zorro on the cake and they cut out what really happened after. I think she went hysterical. I did not see what some of you saw that she was too calm. I think she went nuts and that is why the scene was cut to her talking to the camera later.

Vanessa said...

So she says it's really hitting her for the first time...what have I done? but I'm really up for the challenge...

So, in other words, you have never thrown a party for the kids.

Also, when describing her struggles to do all the shuttling etc. notice she's not specific. It's "if I'm here and someone's got to be there..."
very vague. WHERE are you taking them? WHAT do you do that you CAN'T be there at a moment's notice.

"like other moms" there are times when at 5:00 she doesn't know what's for dinner...so a complete turn around from the "can-do-shit" persona. YES you DID want to thought of as Supermom when you did jack shit. She doesn't know what's for dinner because it's a total surprise what the chef prepared that day.

Terri said...

I've often wondered if the kids watch all of the old episodes of their show like Kate says they do, what they think when they see how loving and caring Jon always was with them versus their mother being a cold and nasty shrew. I just think those poor kids are so messed up by being confined to that house without much if any outside influence in their lives. If Kate thinks things are bad now she really is in for a tough road down the pike.

Tucker's Mom said...

I know. She throws the best pity parties doesn't she? "There's me and there's eight kids, I don't think an hour goes by that I'm not reminded that those odds are completely unbalanced." Well duh, do ya think? Waaah.
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I wonder if all the hours Kate's away count.

This is the height of hypocrisy. Kate, or K8t, uses that damn #8 at every turn, and never, ever lets anyone forget she's got 8 kids.
K8t
Gr8t
8, count 'em, 8

Those 8 kids are the ONLY reason she's even on the map, moreover, become a multi-millionaire with wealth, fame and pampering beyond most people's imagination.
But, that's not working so much anymore, so to further her agenda, she's going to use the 8 to say she's outnumbered.

Hey, asshat, any mom, dad, moms, dads, mom+dad that has more than 2 kids is outnumbered.

I've never, ever, in all of my Catholic-upbringing life, heard any mother with a large family act like she's was stemming the tide of an imminent insurrection.

May said...

Jeanne said: I'm more confused as to why some ESPN guy would see her. Where is she? I can think of no reason he would be in Wyomissing so she is probably not at home
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She is at home. She has been seen taking the kids to Vacation Bible School.

Tucker's Mom said...

Instead of just making the best of it with her kids, she spent the entire day making up complete lies to complete strangers. He makes this point frequently through the book. He doesn't begrudge that she has help. She has alot of kids and she can afford it. But stop lying about it
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And it continues to today- lies when there's absolutely no reason to lie.

Kate lives her lives in seasons and episodes that have narratives and that carries over to her off-tv persona.
It's really not right in the head.

Hey, TLC is obviously paying for the whole birthday shindig, so why lie about a stupid cake?
Kate got to go to a bakery and buy a 3-figure cake, and most moms make their own or go to the local grocery or Costco (omg, great baked goods), so what?
Why crow about being all organic, all the time, and ice your stunt cake with buckets of Wilton cake icing?

JoyinVirginia said...

Ncgirl, I had not read that article yet. ” volunteer all 8 of her children as tribute in the hunger games” ! So funny! The snarky writers are having lots of fun with this update!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

There's one thing I think hasn't been covered yet about the special.
And that is that the particular dynamic that was shown - TFW and
the 8 kids "alone" (except for the camera crew!) in that house is
probably extreeeeemely rare. There's been a ton of commentary
specifically about that ball game outdoors. Raise your hand if you
think that woman ever, EVER did that before, or will ever again (okay
Gladys, put your hand down). So some of the behavior that's been
dissected is probably not even representative of anything that
actually occurs.

I believe there is almost always - if not always - another person in
the mix. A nanny, babysitter, homework helper - maybe all 3. And
I believe TFW is very, very, very often alone in her room, or away
running errands, or alone in the kitchen with the children forbidden
from getting in her way. I would also guess that she spends a ton
of time online, reading about herself, and looking for grifting opportunities. Just my humble opinion, of course.

Anyway, for whoever's watching tonight, you may want to keep all
this in the back of your mind. Because precious little is real on
the "realest reality show." And here's to Robert's book getting a big
ol' sales bump after tonight's episode. Team Kids!

Vanessa said...

I believe there is almost always - if not always - another person in
the mix. A nanny, babysitter, homework helper - maybe all 3. And
I believe TFW is very, very, very often alone in her room, or away
running errands, or alone in the kitchen with the children forbidden
from getting in her way. I would also guess that she spends a ton
of time online, reading about herself, and looking for grifting opportunities. Just my humble opinion, of course.
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The clip of the fake cake decorating gives off a weird vibe. No background noise, music, kids voices..there's an echoISH thing going on. Just her talking. Just the way she likes it.

Vanessa said...

You know what? I think a crew member threw the bird onto the cake and Kate was not prepared for that. Why? Take a look at her eyes when she sees Zorro on the cake and they cut out what really happened after. I think she went hysterical. I did not see what some of you saw that she was too calm. I think she went nuts and that is why the scene was cut to her talking to the camera later.
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I think she knew exactly what was going to happen. They show the bird walking towards the cake and she moves him over tsk tsking. Then suddenly it's on the cake. The footage of her moving the bird away was wide angle and got the whole countertop, background etc., but there's no footage of the bird actually flying into the cake? (I can't believe I'm dissecting this! LOL) Her reaction was planned, because that's what's expected of her. But see everyone?? It wasn't the colossal freakout I usually have. Ice cream, gum, globe, coupon, eating strawberries,...she reserves those "special" reactions for the kids, oh and Jon

Jane said...

Flimsy 164

Robert verifies, based on hundreds of interviews as well as documentation, exactly what you posted. There's almost always a helper or two in the house interacting with the kids, she's either in her room or sitting in the kitchen giving orders or she leaves. Goes to the same places over and over - hair, nails, tan, Target, etc. Her role is that of overseer, not involved mom.

The Empress is a Clown said...

Maybe she's been court-ordered to have a "helper" around, for at least some portion of the day? Someone to help make sure things don't get out of hand...

localyocul said...

She never meant to come across as super mom? That's why she tweets about making everything organically from scratch including bread, lifts 50 pound bags of chicken feed, implies Jon is nowhere to be found, has a show about Can-do-Kate, talks about her #10 dinners, and making big breakfasts on school mornings (hello, cereal anyone for the rush out-the-door don't most people do the opposite and make big breakfasts on the weekend when there is more time?), writes a manual for CWS about how orderly and scheduled she is...GMAB

FlimsyFlamsy said...

We've talked here before about TFW's undoing more likely coming from her poor treatment of animals rather than child abuse. What if PETA analyzed that "bird in the cake" incident and determined she and/or the crew mishandled Zorro, and got in hot water about that?! Oh, she'd throw shove those crew daddies under the bus so fast
their boom mikes would spin...

librarylady said...

I also like when she tells us stuff to try to get us to feel sorry for her (I go off to my room to cry!)
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Does she say that on the show? That's pretty lame, basically saying right in front of your kids watching that they and their lives are too much and make you cry. Which likely confirms the silly exaggeration and they probably laugh at the fake drama together and just say "yeah, right..."



AuntieAnn said...

There's been a ton of commentary specifically about that ball game outdoors. Raise your hand if you think that woman ever, EVER did that before, or will ever again (okay Gladys, put your hand down). So some of the behavior that's been dissected is probably not even representative of anything that actually occurs.

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haha! Gladys, put your hand down. Yeah this was not the Kennedy family playing football on the lawn at Hyannis Port. The gaga game with mommie dearest was foreign to them, obviously. Besides, she should have been on sidelines cheering them on, not in the middle of it stomping out the "unbalanced odds".

Same with gathering around her like mother goose in the kitchen, voting on scrambled eggs. Nope. That doesn't happen. You get what you get and you don't get upset is what goes on when the cameras aren't around.

You can tell that those kids are confused as who this woman is and so is she. She doesn't know what role to play with her family when the cameras are rolling. One minute she pretends to be their big sister and next minute she's a freaking drill sergeant barking orders at them.

NJGal51 said...

Interesting that people are beginning to call her out.

@radar_online: Tell-all book author says 'Things have only gotten worse for the poor #Gosselin children': http://bit.ly/1iwmqFE pic.twitter.com/wDFYJrnTfe

@DrSethMeyers: @radar_online Who ever said putting kids on reality tv is good for their development? Certainly no psychologist.

@DrSethMeyers: @radar_online I have received calls for several shows in which I would be asked to showcase my adopted young kids, and I said no every time.

@DrSethMeyers: @radar_online Young kids shouldn't be exploited by parents on reality tv; and kids "wanting to do it" DOES not justify it. #realitystars

And from his blog yesterday: DR. SETH ON TV: E! True Hollywood Story
Last night, I was on a TV special that focused on the personal lives of reality star ex-wives. Every single time I am interviewed on the subject of fame, I take the chance to tell people: Be careful what you wish for. Though fame often brings more financial security, fame will take any significant psychological vulnerability you have - and put it through a blender. It is very sad that attention, for some, functions as an opiate. And for people who actively seek fame, it will never, ever be enough.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The children's near constant looks of confusion and dazed stares toward Kate in my opinion can only mean this is not their regularly scheduled programming.

Think about it. If mom never ever sat down with you before and told you the family was going to go off and do something fun together at a fun venue, the first time it happens might be rather confusing.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


@DrSethMeyers: @radar_online I have received calls for several shows in which I would be asked to showcase my adopted young kids, and I said no every time.


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But but but you would do it too!!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Interesting that this week brought out not one but two PhD psychologists commenting on this mess.

Wouldn't a normal person be mortified? I mean really, a Phd psychologist feels the need to make a statement about you and your screwed up family on a national scale? That's pretty humiliating I would think. Wouldn't you stop to think now why would a rich and successful psychologist just want to hate on me. Maybe they have a point?

Vanessa said...

The Empress is a Clown said...168Maybe she's been court-ordered to have a "helper" around, for at least some portion of the day? Someone to help make sure things don't get out of hand...

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Let's just hope it's not the same helper who was instructed to lock one of the kids in the bathroom, or the one who was told to spank them.

Vanessa said...

Wouldn't a normal person
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I think you just answered your own question.

Carole said...

Robert verifies, based on hundreds of interviews as well as documentation, exactly what you posted. There's almost always a helper or two in the house interacting with the kids, she's either in her room or sitting in the kitchen giving orders or she leaves.

I think the household help dynamic has changed and we need to be careful in applying the people/routines Robert talks about to present time and thinking it's the same now. I don't think there are nannies or cooks or 'helpers' like there were in '08-'11 period because the kids are more self sufficient now and have learned to obey her command. I think Katherine has been gone for along time and so have most of the sitters. TFW's said she has help after school and I'm sure that continues during the school year and during the summer she's probably using someone more during the day, but I think the kids have replaced the house cleaning or laundry people she once had. I hesitate to say it, but I think TFW is doing more herself now.

Carole said...

May said...
She is at home. She has been seen taking the kids to Vacation Bible School.


TY May. I'm assuming you're a local - I appreciate you letting us know that at least the kids are involved with their peers in a great program. My kids loved VBS and so did I as a student, a helper, and then a teacher, too.

Anonymous said...

Now there's a show I would watch. KG in intensive therapy, all broadcast live, with no editing. She could be on t.v., make a ton of money, and NOT use her kids. She would stay on until progress was made. THAT would be a ratings bonanza. TLC, I won't even ask for a cut for giving you this concept for a new show. Consider it a gift.

PJ

Carole said...

The guy was just too close to her, too involved. No wonder she was in NYC last week without him.

Re Steve - I didn't see him in the photos last week but I don't necessarily believe he's passed her 'handling' on to someone else. I think they're both sly and he's very capable of hiding in plain sight.

AuntieAnn said...

Maybe she's been court-ordered to have a "helper" around, for at least some portion of the day? Someone to help make sure things don't get out of hand...

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I've thought that for a long time. Wouldn't that just be the icing on the cake if that ever got out.

sparkle said...

localyocul said... 169
She never meant to come across as super mom? That's why she tweets about making everything organically from scratch including bread, lifts 50 pound bags of chicken feed, implies Jon is nowhere to be found, has a show about Can-do-Kate, talks about her #10 dinners, and making big breakfasts on school mornings (hello, cereal anyone for the rush out-the-door don't most people do the opposite and make big breakfasts on the weekend when there is more time?), writes a manual for CWS about how orderly and scheduled she is...GMAB
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I've been reading comments on the various articles about her because I like to see what random regular people think about this mess. What I have noticed again and again is people saying "why won't she go away?" "why all these years later is she still whining about how put upon she is for having 8 kids, she chose to have 8 kids!?"

They make a good point. Even though it's 10 years and millions of dollars later, it still might as well be 2004 again. She is still whining about how hard she struggles. Boo hoo. Struggling in her world means the nanny asked for the night off. She's always begging people to walk in her shoes, well she should be made to walk in other people's shoes because she is completely removed from the reality of how hard the mediocres have to work to just get by. What is she hoping to get from this constant whining? Is it still a ploy for grifting? She doesn't get it and she never will. She is still of the mind that because she did not choose selective reduction, she deserves an eternal pat on the back and endless reward$ for doing so. When the rest of the world is telling her to shut up, you made your choice, YOU are responsible for the outcome.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sparkle I really think most people in her shoes would have listened by now and gone away.

But she has this fierce mentality that nobody, even people who really care about the family, has it right. She wants what she wants and even when mental health experts tell her she is wrong she ignores it and calls everybody haters. I've never seen anything like it. It far surpasses my narcissist in every single way. You might have to twist their arm but usually you could get my narcissist to listen and back off when they were doing something dumb. Not Kate. She just gets angry, cutting, and WORSE when you point out her issues. Look how she is with Jon, he drives her bonkers when most people should have gotten over their ex five years ago. It's truly pathological and very mentally ill.

sparkle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 176
Interesting that this week brought out not one but two PhD psychologists commenting on this mess.

Wouldn't a normal person be mortified? I mean really, a Phd psychologist feels the need to make a statement about you and your screwed up family on a national scale? That's pretty humiliating I would think. Wouldn't you stop to think now why would a rich and successful psychologist just want to hate on me. Maybe they have a point?
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Add to this the fact that Kate's own state had to step in and pass laws to give the Gosselin children the protection that had not been put in place by their parents. Kate bold faced lied on the Today show about the kids having money put away for them. They did not. Having a law drafted and passed specifically to address your failures as a parent is really bad. That is not the hallmark of a loving supermom. It's the hallmark of an exploitive and manipulative jerk. Since this little gem is indisputable and cannot be spun, the sheeple choose to ignore it and pretend it never happened.

TLC stinks said...

If she gets exasperated and "cries in her room", she has nobody to blame but herself. The woman is a millionaire and no one would begrudge her having a nanny. But she has to lie about it. Today, I don't know what to believe, but there are tons of post-it-notes plastered everywhere so either the kids are taking care of themselves or those notes are for a helper. Either way, Kate does NOTHING.

Well, you guys could be right about the bird/birthday cake was a set up. I would hate to think that poor bird was placed on the cake and then she grabbed him with her TALONS and shoved him under the faucet. How traumatizing for the little guy. She hates animals, said on the show she was not a dog person, but now she expects us to believe she is an animal lover when evidence dictates otherwise. Anyone who abuses kids and animals is scum.

I wonder if any of the teachers at VBS had to sign a CA?

Amy2 said...

Robert's book sells as of 30 minutes ago......251 books.

Jumping In said...

I always wonder how the kids feel when she whines and says things like "I hobbled to feed you", (after the broken toe..) or "what man would take on EIGHT kids" or "I am doing this all alone" (with their father down the road). These children have to feel their mother wishes they were never born and sees them as a burden, a chore. It is obvious they are nothing more to her than a means to an end, a paycheque, period.

But, I believe the tide is turning within that household, and the push-back is going to hit her like a tsunami, especially from the boys as they grow up. She can tell the public to "hate away", but she will have to deal with the children she has abused as they learn of the voice Robert has given them.

I believe her day of reckoning will come from her own children, they are the ones who will finish her off. It is their voices that will be believed, and it's coming, she can't keep them silent much longer.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Auntie Ann, loved your suggestion re: Cody Brown. At least if Kate did that maybe she could still be a regular on TLC! One thing about the Browns is that we do not see them abusing their children and they appear to love one another. Can you just imagine? Kate doesn't want to share anything. Hysterical vision happening here. Gotta go.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

It far surpasses my narcissist in every single way. You might have to twist their arm but usually you could get my narcissist to listen and back off when they were doing something dumb. Not Kate. She just gets angry, cutting, and WORSE when you point out her issues.

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The psychology of it is so fascinating. I was thinking about this early this morning. I don't know any narcissists, nor ever had any in my life. Is she enjoying all of this attention, saying, hey, I'm all over the internet right now? It doesn't matter that what is being said shows how mentally ill she is...is she still basking in the fact that she is relevant? Is she enjoying the attention?

Or, would a narcissist be in denial, be mortified that what is being said about her is far from positive, humiliated that she is not being praised as a supermom or a glorified, adored celebrity?

If Kate wouldn't be so nasty, miserable, rude, selfish and greedy, she would have no personality at all.

PJ's momma said...

It'll be interesting to see if she tweets out a thanks to the church that is providing a free or very low-cost week-long experience for those kids. I bet she never mentions it at all - too mediocre to admit, even though the kids are probably loving it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I don't believe that TFW cries alone in her room. No picture, no proof
(waves to Sparkle).

Grandee4, are you out there? Hope you're doing well!

Millicent said...

Jumping In said:

I believe her day of reckoning will come from her own children, they are the ones who will finish her off. It is their voices that will be believed, and it's coming, she can't keep them silent much longer.
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I think some of the children will stay in contact with their mother - like Hannah and Mady, and possibly one or two of the other girls. What I hope is that most of them choose to sever contact, for their own well-being and that of those in their life (such as significant others or their own children).

I don't say this lightly - but Kate is mentally ill. She is toxic to those around her, especially if they are under her control. The best thing for every single one of the children would be to have little to absolute no contact with her.

Kate will never acknowledge that she mistreated her own children and failed spectacularly at parenting. When her day of reckoning comes, she'll have her fingers in her ears, saying na, na, na, I can't hear you!

Tucker's Mom said...

She hates animals, said on the show she was not a dog person, but now she expects us to believe she is an animal lover when evidence dictates otherwise. Anyone who abuses kids and animals is scum.
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Even if all the stories about the dogs are speculation and not true, and I do believe that they are true, Kate is disgusting for the one honest-to-goodness-truly-verified-first-person incident that Robert reported- leaving Shoka and Nala to roam the country roads after escaping from the property as Kate exited in her SUV, through the gates.

That just makes my head explode.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

The guy was just too close to her, too involved. No wonder she was in NYC last week without him.

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Just because he wasn't photographed doesn't mean he wasn't there. There weren't that many pictures floating around of her there, and it could be that he's hanging low right now, with all of the controversy about their relationship. Or, it could just be that he was off running errands for her or had to step back inside for something, or whatever.

AuntieAnn said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 191

Auntie Ann, loved your suggestion re: Cody Brown. At least if Kate did that maybe she could still be a regular on TLC!

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Watching Kody and Kate outnarc each other would be worth the price of admission alone. They could come up with all kinds of excuses for not finding a real job. They'd have the other four wives running their butts off waiting on them. And how many kids would they have then? 2,556? Beat that number, Duggars.

Anonymous said...

@DrSethMeyers
@radar_online Young kids shouldn't be exploited by parents on reality tv; and kids "wanting to do it" DOES not justify it. #realitystars

‏@SockieWhodunit
@DrSethMeyers Then, please, please, please use your media connections to help these kids. Contact @GosselinBook and interview him.

@DrSethMeyers
@SockieWhodunit @GosselinBook I will follow up because young kids on reality tv is an important issue.

Whoa. Looks like more media attention. I hope it continues.

PJ

Millicent said...

sparkle said:
She's always begging people to walk in her shoes, well she should be made to walk in other people's shoes because she is completely removed from the reality of how hard the mediocres have to work to just get by.
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TLC tried to make her walk in another person's shoes with the preliminary filming of Twist of Kate, but even TLC and all their money and perks couldn't get Kate to cooperate in that venture!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Even if all the stories about the dogs are speculation and not true, and I do believe that they are true, Kate is disgusting for the one honest-to-goodness-truly-verified-first-person incident that Robert reported- leaving Shoka and Nala to roam the country roads after escaping from the property as Kate exited in her SUV, through the gates.

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I agree. I just can't imagine any pet owner doing this. I admit that I am a bit over-protective when it comes to my dogs. Even though part of the property where the dogs play is totally fenced in with a locked gate, I still walk outside with them to make sure that there is no place they can escape and that the gates are secure. I do this each time I let them out. I have totally 'freaked' if I look outside and can't see them because they are playing in some shrubbery. This area is well away from roads and traffic. I can't imagine anyone driving away and letting their dogs run on the road. Good lord.

sparkle said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 197

Just because he wasn't photographed doesn't mean he wasn't there. There weren't that many pictures floating around of her there, and it could be that he's hanging low right now, with all of the controversy about their relationship. Or, it could just be that he was off running errands for her or had to step back inside for something, or whatever.
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I agree Fleece. Can't help but wonder if Mrs. Neild put her foot down after Steve and Kate kind of flaunted their "togetherness" during CA in NYC. Mabye Mrs. Neild goes along with an "arrangement" but she draws the line at being publicly humiliated. Just speculating. What a mess.

FYI said...

Another sneak peek of the show. Kate takes the kids shopping to get new outfits for the party, most likely on TLC's dime.

https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/kate-plus-eight-sneak-kate-gosselins-kids-hate-love-163744559.html

The video says "Three days before party" and she's wearing the same clothes as she did in Michael's so the party must have been on May 24.

Excerpt from the accompanying description:

"Weirdest moment: As Kate was shopping for birthday party outfits for the young kids, she said she was going to let them pick out anything they wanted. And then she said no to almost everything. She also had to ask son Joel, "Do you like basketball?"

AuntieAnn said...

Whoa. Looks like more media attention. I hope it continues.

PJ
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And it's only day five.

Sheri said...

Phew! Just finished Mr. Hoffman's book. What's interesting is that there is little in it that wasn't common knowledge (for us on this blog anyway) and discussed at length here.

There was very little surprise about reading it, it was more an exercise in being validated. Our vocal criticism of Kate, our suspicions that what we witnessed on t.v. was very likely worse when the cameras were off and our assertion that the woman is bat shit crazy...all confirmed.

The descriptions of the initial contracts the Gosselins had with TLC/Discovery also reaffirm for me that the network is as much responsible for the exploitation of the kids as their parents.

When those kids should have been raised by a village of family and friends they were instead exploited by a village of executives and producers, including their parents.

Sadly, I have to agree that it is very unlikely that much will change for these children until they are old enough to change it themselves.

I want to cry.



Over In TFW's County said...

It'll be interesting to see if she tweets out a thanks to the church that is providing a free or very low-cost week-long experience for those kids. I bet she never mentions it at all - too mediocre to admit, even though the kids are probably loving it.

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I think that her church charges ten dollars or so for VBS. Can she afford that, or would she have to do some piecing and patching to come up with the fee? I guess she reasons that this is much cheaper than summer camp. Those kids would have a blast at camp, either overnight or day camp. There are many great camps in the Poconos, and a wonderful equestrian camp in Virginia that the girls would love. It's not inexpensive, though. I would imagine that the reason she won't let them out of her sight to attend camp is the fear of them talking...and that's so sad that they can't be kids because of the fact that they are well known and that she is so disliked.

mamaK said...

Steve's face was blurred in all the footage where he could be seen. I wonder if that means he didn't want to be a part of this and isn't with Kate anymore?

I don't think the kids ever watch their show. Kate had some story of how the kids were fascinated by how she had to feed them in that table when they were babies, but if they had been watching their show over and over and over, they would already know that happened, cuz it was filmed.

Kate mentioned several clips of things you would normally forget, so I think that she is watching their show again and again.

TLC stinks said...

You could be right that Steve was there, just not photographed. That would be totally odd, though, because that has never been his routine. I think he has backed away (temporarily) to see how this all plays out. He may be an enabler, but he also is more concerned about himself. Dirtbag.

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NJGal51 said...

I found it odd that A didnt know what XL and M meant when he was looking at the shirts.

Katykat said...

Collin seems a lot like Jon. Dresses well, has a girl friend so he is social and likable. I betthat's why Kate has so many issues with him.

Katykat said...

Do you like basketball? Gee...what a give away that she doesn't spend any time w/ her kids. And it was a "brainy" idea to letthem pick their own clothes? At 10? WHAT a CONTROLLING freak!

MiChi said...

Just saw the new clip. Quick reaction:
1) The fact that she had to ask Joel if he liked basketball is VERY telling. How can that be spun or defended?
2) While I'd consider any other 10 year old having a "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" innocent and endearing, knowing what I do, I'm kinda disturbed it's Collin. Gee, looking for female affection he's not getting at home?

MiChi said...

NJ Gal--right? But let's keep in mind that AT AGE SEVEN, ALEXIS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A TRIANGLE WAS! (Kate Plus 8 Halloween episode when they were carving pumpkins.)

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Fleecing The Sheep there is nothing wrong with being overprotective with your pets. That's a good way for them to have a long and happy life. I live in a suburban neighborhood and 2 dogs that were left in the back yard were attacked and killed by a coyote. Very sad.

As far as Steve's face being blurred out its PR. All for damage control. Though I think it's to little to late.

chefsummer #Leh said...

MiChi said... 13

How can that be spun or defended?
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Um she has 8 kids count them 8 she can't keep up with all their likes and dislikes plus it's Jon's fault.

chefsummer #Leh said...

MiChi said... 14
NJ Gal--right? But let's keep in mind that AT AGE SEVEN, ALEXIS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A TRIANGLE WAS! (Kate Plus 8 Halloween episode when they were carving pumpkins.)
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2yrs ago during the phill epis on K+8 they didn't know who Obama was or most of the presidents were.

Formerly Duped said...

I thought Kate told Collin he would never get a firebrand or wife if he insulted any female person's hair? And that Joel is the snappy dresser? Although then Kate said Joel was perfect because he would wear 'anything." (Aaden is the boy who enjoys having his sisters 'dress'' him aka pick his outfits and glasses) I think Collin is a very nice-looking boy. His eyes did show resentment while his mother berated him in front of the camera, though. Poor guy

AuntieAnn said...

Katykat said... 11

Collin seems a lot like Jon. Dresses well, has a girl friend so he is social and likable. I betthat's why Kate has so many issues with him.

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On one of those pre-special interviews, according to her hamster wheel data readout on dating, she said it's not really a date until you can drive. That might throw the kibosh on Collin having a girlfriend.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say she has a plan in place to squelch any ideas about the kids bringing in outsiders to interfere with her master plan, which would be to keep her kids in a pack as long as she can.

Jillygee said...

Just watched the clip .....those boys are absolutely lovely and charming. So sad how their mother treats them as second class citizens. I wonder if she will ever realize it. When they're grown and want nothing to do with her. .? Will she regret anything then ?

Formerly Duped said...

Formerly Duped said... 18
Wow, I said 'girlfriend' not firebrand in # 18 lol! Gotta proof my posts better.

PatK said...

Anyone who dates a Gosselin kid will have to sign a non-disclosure contract. His/her family, too, I would guess.

JR said...

Could you imagine her kids bringing home boyfriends or girlfriends....she wants no other influence on them but her own....HAAAAAAAAAA....shes in for a rude awakening...the party will be over and they will be loyal to whoever they fall in love with ...not her...That would kill her. I see a lot of alienation in her furture...

Barb Gilman said...

Almost done with the book. Some of the links in the book are live and take you to the photos or in some cases to Kate's website. I wonder if she is being notified by the webmaster of where people are coming from to see her blog. I know on my blog it tells me if people are visiting from a mobile device or another country for example. She is probably getting more web traffic and she doesn't even know the real reason why!

Jane said...


tlc
Don't forget to follow the one and only @KatePlusMy8 as she live Tweets part 2 of the #KatePlus8 special TONIGHT 10/9c!
17 min ago from Hootsuite

JR said...

I'm almost giddy to the point where I can't stand it...over the fact the Mady will bring home her first boyfriend ..Kate will do everything to discredit him because we all know, shes better than anyone else and also the fact that hes interfering with one of her money makers. That's where the real karma comes in.....not this other bullshit that she could care less about. Shes losing her control over those kids now...I can't imagine the hell in that house in a couple of years...

Rhymes with Witch said...

tlc
Don't forget to follow the one and only @KatePlusMy8 as she live Tweets part 2 of the #KatePlus8 special TONIGHT 10/9c!
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Did she live tweet during the first update?

Somewhere In Time said...

OT, but I know that there are some die-hard Billy Joel fans here:

http://www.webpronews.com/billy-joel-the-piano-man-is-a-good-samaritan-2014-06

Somewhere In Time said...

Did she live tweet during the first update?

*****

I think she either dead tweeted or drunk tweeted.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I can't imagine the hell in that house in a couple of years... 27

I truly believe that she still physically abuses Jon's children and I don't think she's going to stop unless there is a powerful intervention.
That she thought she could reason with toddlers and dogs is incredibly frightening.

NJGal51 said...

Yes, she did live tweet during part 1. I didn't watch but had my iPad on and checked. It was rather boring and I'm sure she's only live tweeting because it's part of the contract.

On to the subject of dogs being left unattended. Our bully is never outside if we're not home and if we are home we always make sure that the gate is closed/locked and we always keep an eye on him because we have an inground pool (he knows to keep away but we watch him closely because, well, he's a dog). Unfortunately one of our neighbors was not quite so careful and they routinely left their small dog out when they were not home. They came home Saturday to find their dog had fallen into their pool and drowned. They're very upset becasue they've lost a beloved pet and this was a preventable accident. It gets on my last nerve when I read things like TFW letting the dogs run around on those country roads. Accidents happen.

Carole said...

I'll bet TFW wishes bots had advertised her book as often as they are now for Robert's. LOL Poor schmoopy.

Katykat said...

A little OT, but my 5 year old came home from VPK and told me he was engaged. He said, "She came over to me and said, 'YOU! Marry ME!' And I said YES before she changed her mind. But don't worry. She is gonna go to Ballerina School and I'm going to Ninja School first." :)

Somewhere In Time said...

Kate takes the kids shopping to get new outfits for the party, most likely on TLC's dime.

*******
Why would they need new outfits for their party? I can't believe that in their closets they couldn't find anything appropriate to wear to this staged bash. Maybe it was written in the contract that TLC would cough up the funds for new clothing. I can see Kate's grifting running wild, milking everything she can out of them.

Rhymes with Witch said...

She came over to me and said, 'YOU! Marry ME!' And I said YES before she changed her mind. But don't worry. She is gonna go to Ballerina School and I'm going to Ninja School first." :) 33

Too cute!

My own OT: I'm having my back yard fenced on 7/9. Then I'm going to adopt a shelter/rescue dog............

Rhymes with Witch said...

I can see Kate's grifting running wild, milking everything she can out of them. 34

It is her only talent/skill and she's honed it to a fine art.

Katykat said...

Oh, and if they are 10 and only wearing a boy's 8, they really are on the small side for age 10.

Somewhere In Time said...

NJ -- that is so sad. That's the very first thing I did when we got our pup...made sure she knew exactly where the steps were in the pool so she could get out if she ever decided to take a swim. She's never allowed outside without someone watching her, but if we're swimming she likes to jump right in there with us. It didn't take long to teach her how to get to the steps and what to do once she got there. It's funny to watch. If the raft is close to the side, she'll jump on it, float around, and when she's tired of it, she'll jump off and swim to the steps to get out.

I wonder if Shoka is allowed in Kate's fabulous pool.

FYI said...

LifethruALense ‏@EverydayMOMblog · 6m
@Kateplusmy8 hi Kate. ive always admired and learned things from you. IM trying to save money.

LifethruALense ‏@EverydayMOMblog · 6m
@Kateplusmy8 can you help.me by telling me how you use coupons and where do you get them?? thanks a ton in advance. :)
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Come on, Milo. It's time to put on your PR hat and direct them to CouponsbyKate!!

BTW, Kate has picked up over 5000 followers since last Thursday. Wouldn't you think that she would take advantage of that and tweet about the cookbook and her coupon site?

Not one of her fans, not even Milo, has even mentioned how her followers have increased.

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