julesncarols Is this Kate’s real page or it’s a fan page?
kateplusmy8 @julesncarols lol it’s me. You can tell by the blue ‘verified’ check mark😉
----- kklewlew Do you have any suggestion for combating the DOG hair? We recently got a lab....dog hair is killing me!
kateplusmy8 @kklewlew you and your vacuum shall become best friends.... like me and mine have😉😉😉😉
kklewlew @kateplusmy8 Lol! I thought that’s what you may say! No magical doggy hair cures! Ha! BTW...you have a beautiful family and happy to see you have a show again!
----- samanthamoran2 You were pretty intense in the beginning but I’m positive I would have been the same way. You had A LOT to deal with. But you are a great mom. We see the softer side of you. 🤗
kateplusmy8 @samanthamoran2 You.Totally.Get.Me.
triponejaw @samanthamoran2 "great mom's" don't abandon their son. Just sayin... 🙄
----- polskimama When does your new dating show start?
Former Lurker (#199), it's sickening when she turns on the phony sentiment. Awww...she's SO sensitive about her friend's dog! Give me a break. This is a woman who beat up TODDLERS. Where was all this tender hearted emotion when her son was in an institution for 3 years?
We all called it. As soon as she needed them, she popped back in on social media to connect with the fans. Typical transactional behavior from a narcissist.
TFW is like the snobby teenager who befriends the brainy but unpopular girl so the girl will help her with an assignment. Then she disappears from the unpopular girl's orbit until she needs a other favor. That's the dynamic between TFW and her viewers. She's hoping the unpopular girl is so desperate for a friend that she'll come running back.
Any day some fan will ask, "Are we gonna have a tweet party when the show airs?" And ol' gaslighting TFW will probably say something like, "Duh, of course!" As if she's been available to them for chitchat every Monday since that last episode aired. And I suspect Mady will be part of it as well. But that coach better be careful not to get too much positive attention, or she'll wind up on the curb with Beth and Aunt Jodi.
Well, I hope Shoka is healthy too. Maybe he just doesn't go all the way down the long driveway? Who knows but I am always concerned for any animal under TFW's care/ Look at poor Nala and Shoka when she neglected them.
That's another persona Kate tried on: animal lover.Fail.
Yes, Clay is Jamie's son's name. He's the one Cara was so mean to on the RV trip. The tups were mean to him ,too, on the organizing episode when Kate was rude to the ladies helping her
I cannot believe there are people who cannot see through this vile woman. Some of the over the top comments praising her are nauseating . There is nothing about her to admire in reality. They see what they want and ignore the facts. She would be nothing without the sextuplets. The twins would be nothing without the sextuplets. The fact they don't seem to understand that is setting them up for a huge disappointment in the future. The fact so many are wishing the show was about the kids too, has got to be an ego deflater for her. She has to be in a panic because if this show fails, there will never be a Kate plus 8 again.Having only 4 kids at home is mediocre.
So.. I kind of watched the live graduation ceremony of M and C on social media. I saw both girls getting their diplomas. Both girls looked very pretty wearing white dresses like the other graduates. C looked a little shy while up on stage, while M hammed it up posing for her graduation photo, hands on her hips. One thing I never realized is that her full name is Madelyn Kate Renee Gosselin. So I never knew Renee was one of her middle names. As the ceremony ended and the guests filed out, I’m almost 95 percent positive I saw TFW on the left hand side with Alexis, Aaden, Joel, Leah as they were leaving. There was a dark haired girl behind them so I’m not certain if that was H or someone who looked like her. But no purse boy, no Friends or family that I could see with her. She hugged a young girl who must have been a student and exchanged a few words with her right before leaving the gymnasium.
I think she's hoping to find a way to film the younger kids again. If (when!) this dating show bombs, she'll need them. I think she's planning to do a show with a new guy--one she "finds" on the dating show--and the next show will be this guy meeting the kids and becoming a part of the family. Just like she wanted to do with Jeff the Millionaire before he backed out. She knows the show hasn't worked without Jon, so she thinks she can find another guy to take his place. But, of course, she needs to use the kids to make the show even marginally successful/interesting, and Jon is in the way of her doing that. I hope Jon sticks to his guns and refuses to let her film the kids. They're kids--just let them be kids for once. She can't make them support her forever, can she?
Its possible that Shoka just isn't up to walking down that long driveway with the younger dogs. He might be on the porch or up near the house and hidden by the trees.
Layla, that's what I meant in my last post.Dogs often get arthritis or hip problems in their golden years.
Gigi Be, thanks for the info- this was filmed?? Quite possible that was H as C seems to be on a road trip. You , Layla and Former Lurker provide a lot of scoops here!
The graduation ceremony is on YouTube. Cara seems to have gained a bit of weight but it looks good on her. As Gigi Be said, Mady did ham it up on stage (more than anyone else). Cara got more cheers from the class/audience than Mady did. Poor Kate didn’t get any special privileges and had to file out at the end with the rest of the unwashed masses. She will find a way to make this all about her when she posts about it on IG. I hope that Cara at least has the sense to go to college in another state and not somewhere where she can live at home. Mady seems to take after Kate and enjoys the limelight so who knows with her but I do hope that she’ll go to college and not necessarily the same one that Cara goes to.
It really is a shame if Jon and Collin were not invited. They are family and one day the girls will regret it. I hope that the tups will be able to mend the rift between them and their dad sooner rather than later. However, with the twins leaving Kate will focus all her neediness on the remaining 4 (if that makes sense). The twins are gone, Hannah and that other boy are gone, you are all I have left.....poor me, poor me, poor me.
I wonder how the tups' graduation will go, with hopefully Jon and H and C there. I didn't watch the whole thing so didn't have the privilege of seeing Kate but I saw the twins. Mady flounced in, as well.She is so much like her mother!
I think if Cara could separate herself from Maddie and Kate, she would mend the relationship with her father. They both completely dominate her. Perhaps getting away from will allow her time to think for herself for the first time in her life.
Gigi Be, thanks for the info- this was filmed?? ————— It’s called a live stream”. Done by the school.This is very beneficial to those that want to attend a special event but cannot make it. Lots of weddings are doing the same now a days. I didn’t see any TLC cameras
It's so nice of the queen to mix with her public after a long absence. If she didn't have a show, she wouldn't talk to them. The hair talk was stupid. Hair is more interesting than Kate though. The extreme dog love. blech. The dogs probably just give her the attention the children used to, and she can control them. At least Jon will get to see the graduation on video even though he should be there.
LOL, Mady's got that cocked hip and head-tilt down pat, doesn't she? If I had to guess, I'd say this is the most important "lesson" she's learned from Mommy Dearest. I feel sorry for Cara, frankly, between the two of them, I'm sure she must feel embarrassed a lot of the time.
So this means either Collin was not welcome at or refused to go to the graduation. I think it’s clear Kate has disowned him. How sad. And for the girls to shun Jon like that. My kid just graduated from college and the ex and his wife and kids came out to dinner with our family. It’s not hard. Makes me so mad
Lurking (#20), good for you for not making your kid choose between 2 parents. You said it's not hard, but that's because you clearly decided to put your kid's needs first. A good parent will always make the choice that's best for the child. But of course I've never accused TFW of being a good mother.
WE is cashing in on Momma June's drug problems. I saw an add for the intervention episodes on YouTube. I just hope that 13 year old Alana is not being pushed in front of the cameras during this time. I also hope she is getting help.
You know what's truly heinous about TFW leaving Jon out of the twins' graduation? You can bet it gave her PLEASURE to hurt him that way. I'm not sure C registers enough in her mind to have much emotion about him not being there. But to deprive Jon of seeing his first-born girls on arguably the most significant day of their young lives so far? She loved it because it meant she WON.
When it comes down to it, I don't think the girls had a lot of choice about keeping up a relationship with Jon. I have no doubt their mother made their lives unbearable with respect to any level of visitation with their father, not to mention all the lies and vitriol she constantly fed them. In the end, it was probably just easier for them to turn away from him, otherwise they'd never have had a moment's peace. I'm sure they were trying for as normal a life as it was possible to have under Kate's sadistic, vengeful reign.
And I agree, it looks like she's just turned her back on Collin. I don't understand how TLC can continue to associate with her, on this ground alone. Is everyone just supposed to ignore the fact that she's shut one of her famous 8 out of her life?
I just checked IG and TFW hasn't posted a graduation pic. No prom pic, no graduation pic probably means they'll be in People magazine or on her dumb new show.
But, Mady just posted a pic of her and her two remaining brothers:
Remember how Mady described her father as "toxic?" I wonder how she feels about him having custody of her younger brother, of whom she was so protective when TFW was going to throw away his lovie. And what did Mady think when her amazing, strong, brave, role-model mother blew off C's custody hearing?
It still feels strange to type Mady's name. I only typed her initial for so many years. But she's 18 now, and is responsible for her choices. She had every right not to invite her father to her graduation. But it was a cruel choice, and as Sue (#10) said, she and Cara may live to regret it.
Why were the two boys in Mady's picture dressed alike? Sad that Collin wasn't there, although he did comment on her picture telling her he was happy for her. I'm sure Kate and both the girls did not want him there because by him being there, he would overshadow the graduation and be the story, not them. So sad they have chosen z list celebrity status over relationships with their own family.
I went back and watched the very end..was that TFW in a long blue tie-dye style dress who hugged a woman, blocking the aisle?
I could only make out the tops of two boy tups and Leah's head. Was Alexis not there or could I just not see her...yes, that dress on Mady looks very short. The boys look quite dapper!
Giff....I agree with you to a point about Cara. I do think Mady can dominate Cara but I don’t think Cara gives in to Kate. I’m hoping with time the rift between Jon and Cara will be healed. I’m also hoping Cara goes far away from both Mady and her mom for college.
capecodmama (#31), and, sadly, it's not unthinkable that TFW could kick Cara to the curb if she isn't available for filming when Mommie Dearest needs her. Or if she eventually decides to try to mend her relationships with her father and brother.
Cara has already seen her dad and 11-year-old brother disappear from her family. Can any of those kids be sure they won't be next?
Thank you for sharing the graduation link. Bothe girls look happy, but I notice Mady’s dress was the same of another tall blond girl, That will mean drama. I also notice Collin wrote on Mady’s instagram well wishes for her! Thats really sweet. Marie
Ingrid (#33), oh boy, seeing C congratulate his sister touched my heart. What a fine young man he's becoming.
Sorry, TFW. You didn't break his spirit. He didn't disappear. He didn't turn bitter and angry, like you. You told him he was stubborn and aggressive and hard to love, but he's still a kind and caring soul. Guess you could say HE WON this time.
Formerly Duped (#35), yeah, once poor little A stopped saying "aldergators," TFW didn't find her as marketable. Then she became a disruptor, and a bat, and the rebel who wanted a lizard backpack. I'm surprised she's been allowed to stay as long as she has. Yes, I'm being a little flip, but, truly, would another disappearing kid surprise any of us?
Oh, thanks, Sad. The woman I saw in the blue dress with long blonde hair was sitting near the back and looks a lot like TFW. Now I can see 4 tups too and possibly H? Of course TFW would have front seats.
Flimsy, I agree with you! I also think maybe L and A have become closer? I hope so for both their sake. Sad saga indeed. But so happy Collin is doing well and seems to be a young man of integrity.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 36 Ingrid (#33), oh boy, seeing C congratulate his sister touched my heart. What a fine young man he's becoming. ========= It was very sweet of him. It would be nice if she’d at least acknowledge him with either a “like” or a “Thanks little bro”. Wait, is he still her brother?
Do you think that the almost 16K “likes” that Mady got on the photo are legitimate or did TFW buy her some bots for a graduation present. Hmmmm, we know that TFW would like her to be some kind of influencer a la Olivia Jade.
I wonder if they had a general seating area for graduation. For ours they give the kids just 2-4 tickets for the floor seats and the rest of the family or friends sit on the bleachers on the sides. First come first serve. Even if I was in a similar position as Jon I would have made sure to be there watching the ceremony even if I didn't get a chance to speak to my kids.
I agree unless Jon was worried it would cause, what was it TFW said, a mob scene, that would detract from the twins' special day? Or maybe he was told not to attend and honored the girls' wishes. Idk. It's sad he missed it
There are additional graduation pics in the fan page jonkateplus8_forever in instagram. Cara seems so happy. And there are anothe old picture of Mady and Cara in what seems to be a summer camp. A lot of recent pictures of Hannah having a normal life with friends. Good for her. Marie
I went back and watched the very end..was that TFW in a long blue tie-dye style dress who hugged a woman, blocking the aisle? ————- No she came out of the left aisle at the 40 second mark in the front. She had a pinkish sun dress and was carrying a bouquet of yellow flowers. Looks like Alexis was at her shoulder with a big grin. The boys and one or two dark haired girls were following close behind.
————- Why were the two boys in Mady’s picture dressed alike?
They are probably school uniforms. Kate is probably too cheap to spend money on new suits
Wonder why the girl tups were not in Mady's IG photos/I thought it was a bit weird the way she was holding the boys' cheeks, then looked 2 pictures back and TFW was doing the same to her in a photo!
That fan page is private- isn't that odd for a fan IG- thought they'd get more followers if it was public
Gigi Be (#45), TFW only seems to spend money on her kids when it's someone else footing the bill. Lots of lavish, or as she would say, "posh" parties and trips and dinners and clothes and decorations when they could be included in the show's budget.
You know who's paying for C's road trip with his dad? His dad. That "mediocre" man is providing for his son, without a TV camera in sight. How 'bout dat, Mommie Dearest?
I doubt very much that Mady has a chance in show biz. Unless she has some hidden talent that has been kept a secret. Her personality is that of her mom's and that would really put a lot of people off. She still doesn't understand if it were not for the tups she would just be another mediocre kid from Reading.
It is more than obvious the only motivation for having the sextuplets was to make Kate famous. The older they get and the fact Jon will not let them film, the less she pays attention to them. I fear for the four remaining at home, especially A. And let's pray that the boys have some positive male role models in their lives. It would not surprise me in the least of she sent them all to live with Jon now that they are no longer of use to her. She has no capacity to love or be loved. They only person she has ever loved is herself. I pity the poor fool in a relationship with her, even if it is fake.
Formerly Dupe said: That fan page is private- isn't that odd for a fan IG- thought they'd get more followers if it was public
In order to see the recent pictures in the fan page of jonkateplus8_forever, you just need to request to follow and then you can see the pictures. A lot of recent pictures of their normal life. The page has to be of someone that study in the school. The same you can request for for Colleen and Collin instagram accounts. Marie
Thanks, Marie. I don't have IG but can see public ones like Jon's and Kate's. I appreciate when posters tell us what's going on, on those private pages !
I should probably get an IG- my dog has one! ( my daughter runs it)
@Marie (50) I sent that person a follow and they accepted.I think i said this before but unless the page's private pictures of the kids got accepted by the kids themselves i felt it was weird of a fan to have these private pictures of the kids.If its true that its someone that attends their school or a friend then the only thing i can think of is that the kids gave them the ok to make the page and post the pictures other wise that would be weird of a school mate or a friend to make a fan page to post pictures of another class mate.
So TFW hasn't said boo about the graduation? That really makes me think there's a People article coming. But, good grief, she didn't even post about it? There's nothing cloak and dagger about a graduation ceremony that's already on Youtube. But come 2 weeks from today, she'll be chatting up a storm with her social media "friends" to get them to watch the new show.
So TFW hasn't said boo about the graduation? That really makes me think there's a People article coming. ======== It is odd that TFW hasn’t mentioned the twins’ graduation at all. You’re right Flimsy there may be an article coming out in conjunction with the premier of the fake dating show. However, I don’t think she’ll rate the cover story. I could be wrong because she does have her supporters at People.
Is it possible Kate has come to the realization that nobody is all that interested in hearing about her children's graduation? So she's not talking?
Could be entirely possible she's come to the painful realization, for her anyway, that people just aren't all that interested in herself or her family as they once were so she's swallowed that realization perhaps and just is keeping--shockingly--a lid on it to herself? That is just another typical graduation like everyone else? Not that graduations arenn't special but that they're only special to close family and friends and since she might not have that and her fan base isn't as big as it used to be--she doesn't really have reason to post such a big deal about it?
That and yes her twins are adults and therefore have the right to say no don't post? It's not as if TLC is filming an episode about it anyway so what is exactly in it for her?
No picture of her driveway lined with flags for Memorial Day. I think she used to do that, or maybe I'm thinking of July 4th. In any case, I think someone last year suggested she re-posts the same picture each year.
If there's a PEOPLE cover for the show.I wonder if the twins will "set the record straight" of why Collin is with Jon and why Hannah visits him.Whether they'll actually say something insane like Jon is keeping Collin from Kate or something along those lines.I wouldn't be surprise if Kate would tell them to say something like that.
BlueJay said (56) It's not as if TLC is filming an episode about it anyway so what is exactly in it for her? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You hit the nail on the head. If there's nothing in it for her then she's not putting any effort into her fans. No episode? No magazine covers? Fine, then, you get nothing from me!
The twins may have told her that they are adults, it's THEIR graduation, and they'll post it themselves, thank you very much. I wonder if Kate's feeling the loss of control now that they are adults. She can't make them do anything, and if she wants them to film or pose or whatever she has to make it worth their time. I bet that drives her nuts.
I hope Collin can heal from the treatment he has been given by his mother since he was born. I cannot even imagine how he must feel that Hannah is welcomed to the compound but he is not even a thought to her. Thank God for Jon and Colleen showing what unconditional love and care are all about.
foxy said... 62 I hope Collin can heal from the treatment he has been given by his mother since he was born. ======== I think Collin is going to be fine. His Memorial day post on IG was: "Happy Memorial Day (This wasn't the surprise, Look at my caption in last post) but this post was more important, we must honor those who were and still are heroes to us. Honor our Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Aunts, Uncles, and grandparents who served to save our country." One person commented to him: "You're a kind boy to still honor your mother. I'm so glad she didn't break you and you don't have bitterness." Collin replied: "Thank you that's kind of you to say and very true."
Jon and Colleen seem to be doing a good job with him. His is very sweet and many times will answer people who comment on his posts. He seems to be very sweet and very mature. I'm glad to see that people on his IG don't bash TFW.
That's so mature and generous. I would be proud to call him my son if I were TFW.Well, you know what I mean! Jon and Colleen must be proud and Collin should be of himself.
NJGal, thanks for letting us know what was said on the IG
Jamesvader1194 said... 60 If there's a PEOPLE cover for the show.I wonder if the twins will "set the record straight" of why Collin is with Jon and why Hannah visits him. ____
Hannah doesn't "visit" him, she lives with Jon and Collin, full time. She has been living with Jon for over a year now. She's enrolled in a different school, too.
On one of Collin's instagram accounts that People mag photo from several years ago (white clothes,everyone except Collin)was posted 2 days ago. Kate thinks she is coming back, filming whomever, no Collin, no problem.
I think my Collin Gosselin instagram search took me to the Gosselin family fan page. But the post that was posted 3 days ago said after taking a break (from social media), we now will be getting lots of updates on the gosselin family. I'm just afraid Kate thinks after her fake date show, she will be back to filming her kids again. M.
Thanks for the explanation M. That’s only a fan page and not run by TFW. The account has probably been dormant because the show hasn’t been on. The fan pages, for the most part, just grab pictures from the internet and post them like they’re insiders and just rehash what’s already been printed. None of the “real” Gosselin accounts follow this page (click on followers and you can search by name).
kateplusmy8 Verified #Graduation ..this post is a little delayed (mostly due to post graduation exhaustion lol) but I’m still beaming with pride! It’s hard to believe that Cara and Mady graduated from high school this past weekend ... and are headed off to college in the fall! Where did the time go???? Their Graduation day was such a wonderful day of celebrating THEM and all of their amazing accomplishments! These girls are going places and I can’t wait to see where they end up! Cara and Mady, I love you so very much and I’m just so so proud of YOU! #ProudMom #Graduation #ClassOf2019 #WellDone🎓❤️🎓
Over 30K likes and close to 600 comments, in ONE hour. She's really shelling out for the IG boosts these days.
at the grocery store this evening, flipped thru June 3 issue of National Enquirer. cover story: "The 25 most hated tv celebs" or something like that. and of course The Former Mrs Jon Gosselin is on the second page of the article. Hooray, TFMJG is featured in a national publication! I'll be sure to post when I get that peer-reviewed journal Peopla in my mailbox next week, if there is any mention of TFMJG.
Sad but true (#71), thanks for your post. Once again, TFW had a wonderful day even though one of her children wasn't in attendace. Like when she said the tups had the best birthday ever, even though one of them was off getting treatment. I suppose C will have to just accept that his absence from the family has absolutely no impact on his mother. Although I still believe it's even worse: she's glad he's gone.
Flimsy 73....there is a small article but not much was said. They each got their own cake for graduation (first time ever). Kate has on a white dress with orange design, Mady's dress is super short and Cara's dress is plain and normal. She said they have wonderful futures ahead and will go far. Not much of a blurb, but she got her face in People again.
The blurb in People is also on her instagram....she said she is late in posting due to post graduation exhaustion. She is always tired and always makes it about her.
Looks like Colleen and H met up with Jon and C down in Georgia. Colleen’s niece graduated and they are having a big graduation party with Colleen’s family. H and C look very happy.
Kate looks rough in that graduation photo. I would bet that she’s been hitting that boxed wine hard in the last two years, since not filming. C and M had a little celebration afterwards, but it’s in stark contrast to the celebration Colleen and Jon attended. No grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and friends that have helped raised them all their lives. Because Kate has done it all (gag)
The picture is up on Us magazine now, too. Maybe it should've been captioned, "TFW and her girls...and her daughters." If she ever decided to market that "good bra" she alleged to have found a decade ago, she'd be a billionaire.
The reason TFW was late with posting the graduation picture on her IG timeline wasn’t due to exhaustion from graduation but rather because she sold the pictures to the media outlets and couldn’t post them before the articles came out online. Her timing is very suspect. I would much rather have been at Colleen’s niece’s party with family and friends all together. Collin and Hannah look very happy and relaxed. Jon and Colleen are doing a good job with them.
She bought a huge amount of IG followers in the past day or so. She's up nearly 5K from Monday. Not a reasonable jump on any planet. Ah Kate, you're just so f---ing transparent.
It's funny how her IG graduation post got picked up everywhere all at the same time. As predicted, she's using their graduation to get free press for her upcoming show.
Ingrid said... 82 She must not be getting free shopping trips for herself. I thought that orange dress looked very familiar so I did a search. She wore it in 2015.
Good find, Ingrid. As soon as I saw that pic, I also thought the dress looked familiar. It's very unlike TFW to wear a four year old dress, especially when she's posting the pics for publicity and either she or TLC arranged all the articles.
Also mentioned on today's 'Page Six' in the New York Post.
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She is very rarely on Page Six. It's so obvious that she or TLC arranged this little media blitz today. It's not as if all these sites are waiting for her to post something on Instagram so they could publish it immediately. Such a joke.
Of course, Page Six had to include a paragraph with the bitchy comments Mady made about Jon in 2016:
I can't help but chuckle over TFW wearing that dress to graduation, knowing full well people will remember it. lol
That was a nice gesture giving the girls their own cake after the ceremony, and I imagine she will throw a graduation bash at the McMansion at some point. Probably an open event for the entire class and close cereal-delivering friends and make-up artists/hair stylists so there will be more than 20 people in attendance since there will be no relatives.
NJGal51 said... 80 The reason TFW was late with posting the graduation picture on her IG timeline wasn’t due to exhaustion from graduation but rather because she sold the pictures to the media outlets and couldn’t post them before the articles came out online. *************** You're right--she sold the photos to as many media outlets as she could line up, and had to wait to post until she'd squeezed every penny she could out of them. The 4-year-old dress is odd--you'd think she'd buy something new since she was selling the pictures. But she doesn't have the income she once had (hence the push to sell the graduation photos to as many outlets as possible), so maybe a recycled dress was her best option. I don't care for Mady's dress at all--I think it's tacky and inappropriate for a graduation.
jolie Jacquelyn said... 81 That photo of TFW on her instagram looks odd - as if it has been photoshopped around her bum. ************ You're absolutely right, and it's a crappy photoshop job, too.
I wonder if Hannah attended the twins' graduation? I'm hope they haven't shut her out because she decided to live with her father. And the pictures Colleen posted with all of the relatives and friends just makes you realize what Kate has taken from her own children. Their father, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. The older they get the less useful they are to their mother, and the less she will want to deal with them. How lonely it would feel to think you had no one to turn to because your mother alienated them all from your life. I hope they can find the strength to mend the relationships she destroyed, because when she tires of them, or finds some sucker who will marry her, she will leave them high and dry...and alone.
"Probably an open event for the entire class and close cereal-delivering friends and make-up artists/hair stylists so there will be more than 20 people in attendance since there will be no relatives."
Maybe the boobyguard and his wife too. I just thought of Carla, Kate's friend. Are she and Ashley still in touch?
"I don't care for Mady's dress at all--I think it's tacky and inappropriate for a graduation."
It looked like a nightgown to me. I don't know anything about young ladies' styles today though. It makes me think of Kate bouncing the fake boobs in the bikini and the hooker wear she sported.
That photo of TFW on her instagram looks odd - as if it has been photoshopped around her bum ———— If you look closely, their are other students standing next to them. Their is an arm with a white sleeve right next to TFW. Also couldn’t she have sold a better photo that didn’t have Mady’s hair in her face?
It IS sad, isn't it? On K8's side alone there are probably 8-10 cousins they've never met or haven't seen in a decade. I hope Jon is letting the two living with him make their own choices about reconnecting (or not) with their maternal relatives, including their grandparents. It's lovely to see Colleen including Jon's kids in her wider family circle. Speaks volumes about what kind of person she is, and I'm sure that's not lost on either Hannah or Collin.
"Someones arm is in front of her butt by a little bit so it looked photoshopped. White shirt so I am wondering if it is one of her boys." +++++++++++++++ Yes, now that you mention it, you're probably right... BUT if it's one of her boys, why photoshop him out? Because it takes away from HER!
I hope Aunt Judy and Beth try to connect with Collin & Hannah, now that they are living with Jon. They took such a great care of both of them when they where 2 &3. Marie
Gigi Be (#78), thanks for posting about Colleen's IG for those of us who aren't on IG and can't see it. It's so nice to know that Collin and Hannah are finally having a normal family life that includes extended family.
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ncgirl said... 88
On his IG, Jon posted a picture of he and Colleen at the Denver airport on the way to LA. He said stay tuned. Some kind of show biz thing?
Ingrid (#100), Yes, I looked her up on Wikipedia and saw that she's from Philadelphia.
I just looked at her latest IG pic that she posted eight hours ago. It's a pic from back in 2017 from when she says she got engaged. Her comment on the pic is long and it's all about how their wedding is this weekend. She says the craziness has begun as their welcoming over 250 family and friends from all over to their wedding weekend.
She said on Jon's IG post earlier today that she was looking forward to seeing him and Colleen, so I guess that means they're out there for her wedding.
I’m not sure why Mady deleted her post from back in January , when she was in NYC, wearing the blue denim jacket, and bragging that she was wearing TFW hat. Also, Cara and Mady both have private instagram accounts that they use to communicate with their friends from school. But Cara has no need to make her life public and will not post on her public account.It just seems funny that both M and Kate keep referring to Cara’s public instagram,while she has not posted anything. I’m glad that Cara has continued to stand for her privacy
Sorry, I hit publish too quickly. Jon is out to DJ at the wedding. He had a quick IG story up about it. He said that he’d tried to go live but couldn’t.
NJGal51 ($104), thanks for that info. It looks like it's going to be a fun wedding. She's been posting about the theme being "old Hollywood" and that it's at the Houdini estate.
Jon commented on her wedding post yesterday:
jongosselin1 Hey I know these people!!! 🤔
brookelewisla @jongosselin1 You know us better than anyone at this point!!! Lol! But the best is yet to come 🍾🥂❤️
NJGal51 (#103), a wedding DJ gig in L.A. is probably as profitable a gig as Jon can get. And even if this woman is a friend and he does it for a discounted rate, who knows what other work it could lead to. I wish him the best.
I wonder if Kate is going to take the children on the annual summer vacation now that things aren't filming the last summer before the twins go to college and such.
Clearly Jon cook his son on a summer vacation, so she should have no problem?
I mean it shouldn't be quite as exhausting to Kate to take as few children...without a camera crew in tow.
As far as I can recall, Kate's only taken her kids on a summer vacation without TV cameras twice. Way back when she got that free rental in AL or MS and drove down there with Deanna (and a U-haul full of food, LOL); and 2017 (or was it 2016?) when she and Steve and what looked like most of the kids (no Collin, of course) went to somewhere in NC by a lake. Outside of that, everywhere she's taken them has been paid for by someone else. So I wouldn't necessarily expect her to go anywhere with any of them this summer. Maybe she'll spring for her and the twins for have a getaway, that would be like her.
BlueJay (#107), it's a safe bet that TFW had close to zero responsibility for her kids when they traveled for filming. Whether or not they were ever shown on camera, I can't imagine Her Royal Majesty didn't insist on full-time childcare help on their vacays. She was TLC'S darling in those days, and she had plenty of leverage. I've never thought she was particularly smart, but she was certainly shrewd.
Hi everyone! I reached out to Admin privately who thought this could be some interesting info to share, but I'm going to omit a few details for privacy. It seems that at Mady and Cara's graduation, during the typical senior class photo, two versions were taken - one featuring the twins and one without. This is the version of the photo that is being shared along the usual channels (alumni, current school families, etc). I've only seen the school photo featuring the twins on social media pages of people I know personally. I only share this because I wonder if Kate had anything to do with the decision to take two photos, or if other parents, knowing that the graduation photo could be featured in the media, requested it. It makes me sad to think of the twins having to stand aside and watch all their classmates pose for a group photo, something that's a major, meaningful tradition at this school. However, I'm all for protecting privacy. Anyway, just wanted to share. (As far as I have been able to tell, the school also has been taking measures to keep quiet where M & C will attend college. I do think that's good.)
I really dont get the secrecy of where they will be attending college. Other “celebrity” kids make it known. Gia , Theresa daughter , is going to Penn State, and we have a housewives daughter at the same school of one if mine. I guess TFW is making sure to get paid for this info.
I really dont get the secrecy of where they will be attending college. Other “celebrity” kids make it known. Gia , Theresa daughter , is going to Penn State, and we have a housewives daughter at the same school of one if mine. I guess TFW is making sure to get paid for this info.
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I get the sense that very early in this family's rise to fame, they were given what I see as potentially bad advice that the way to best make the most bang for your buck is to keep things a secret for as long as possible and only reveal the thing at the moment the show airs/a big announcement is made in People/some other money grab off the thing.
And that may work for some things, but you also run the real danger that repeatedly engaging in this behavior will just frustrate and irritate fans (and non-fans who follow you). At the end of the day most people don't like a tease. I think Kate took instruction and advice that was meant for very specific things to only be revealed on the show (a big trip, a house purchase) and applied it to nearly all aspects of her life, which I doubt was ever the intention of the advice.
I don't get the secrecy either. I don't care where they're going, but it's dumb to act like it's a big secret to be revealed when there's no reason not to be included in the info. And it's simply not info that can be kept a secret anyway, so if it's going to come out anyway, why not just say and everyone can be happy for them?
And the two different graduation photos is just darn sad. Nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Even the most famous kids in the world participate fully in school and aren't given special treatment (think Prince George). It could hurt the twins deep down, or it could actually just make them more arrogant and made to believe they are different and special. They're not, and college will teach them that.
Thanks for your post, which I agree was both sad and unusual. I had thought that the kids at least had made it into the mediocre masses of anonymity at least at school where they could be just regular students, not trained monkeys.
Our other local posters have not commented in a while which I took to mean there was no news other than what we hear about H and C and Jon.
It's great to have an insider's point of view and knowledge of the situation. This avoids speculation or rumors.
The graduation seemed to be a special time ( albeit without Jon and C) for the twins where they were part of their class and, looking forward to college, just like all the other kids. I hope this show of TFW does not interfere with their plans
And the two different graduation photos is just darn sad. Nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Even the most famous kids in the world participate fully in school and aren't given special treatment (think Prince George). It could hurt the twins deep down, or it could actually just make them more arrogant and made to believe they are different and special. They're not, and college will teach them that. ======== You’d think that they’d know by now that if it weren’t for the tups they’d only be another set of fraternal twins which seem to be a dime a dozen any more. We know that Malia Obama is going to Harvard and I think that’s a bit more newsworthy than the Gosselin twins. My guess is that this is all TFW because you know if people found out where they’re going to school there would be mass hysteria around campus.....or she’s holding out for the highest bidder on the “first look” pictures. NO.ONE.CARES. They’ll just be a couple more freshmen on campus in a sea of freshmen which I’m sure will suit Cara just fine. Mady May be another story because she seems to like the limelight.
I went to school with Kris Kristopherson’s son, a former actor who was in a Tom Cruise movie, and Danielle Steele’s daughter. The extent of people caring when they heard about this was basically, “cool, and hey do you have the notes from torts yesterday?”
Nobody is going to care and she’s doing these kids a disservice to make them think they will.
Admin (#113), and if TFW had the slightest bit of media savvy, she would've let Jon come to the graduation. Can you imagine how much publicity she would've gotten if she'd posted a picture of the twins with BOTH parents flanking them? And in turn, that publicity would've led to more viewers for her dating show.
But Schmoopy would rather just maintain her blinding hatred for her ex, and keep buying bots. Mkay.
I bet the school will be ever so grateful when they no longer have to deal with Katie. Four more years unless she takes the remaining 6 out and puts them in a public school or a less expensive one. How mean that the twins are not in the graduation group class picture. Even the rich and famous don't act like that. Sad really.
I think Kate said something about how she is the only one who can make money off her kids. The graduation photo without the twins is a reflection of this.
Kate has made those kids (especially the twins) believe they are something they are not...celebrities deserving special treatment. How empty are they going to feel when they finally understand they are only known because of their brothers and sisters. They have no talent or "star" power. If they did, there would have never been a need for Kate to have more children in the first place. I feel sorry for them because they don't seem to understand they were just along for the ride. I get the impression the tups are embarrassed by all of them.
Mom2two...Gia is going to Rutgers. I read an article awhile ago which stated she was going to Penn State but either she or her mom, or both, I can’t remember, posted a picture of her on Instagram recently decked out in Rutgers gear stating that’s where she decided to go.
Admin...did something happen with Sea Gordon’s Instagram? When I go on it it says the page has either been removed or is broken.
Thanks! Abigail looks very different now than when she was a puppy...she has a lot more scruffy hair and her colors have changed. Same anxious little girl though!
I can guarantee you--Mady thinks she's the cat's pajamas (tribute to my grandmother there!) and possibly Cara too. They have always been singled out for special treatment, to the point that they probably expect it by now. Way back when they were 6 or 7 they got special bagels, and the tups didn't get any. Why not? They're bagels, for heaven's sake! I remember Alexis crying that she wanted a bagel and being sent to the corner. They were the ones Kate would invite into her room to hang out at night They got the special (and hugely expensive) boutique shopping day in the episode I saw. The tups will be going into 9th grade this fall (no more uniforms), so they should all get to go spend thousands apiece on clothes for school--right? It's only fair.
While Mady has always been more outwardly nasty, Cara has made some really awful comments too. I remember reading that when asked what her favorite thing about the Halloween party was, she said it was the bonfire "after all the dumb little kids left".
The graduation picture is just ridiculous. Kate sold graduation pictures to all the media outlets, so what's the big deal? Unless she was afraid that someone would sell the school picture and she'd lose money. That's probably it.
Kate probably got the picture with the twins in it, and the other parents got the pictures without the twins in it. Kate doesn't want the other parents selling her children to tabloids. She's only allowed to do that.
As for the six's schooling, Hannah was going to public school, and I don't know where Collin went. I assume it's just Leah, Alexis, Joel and Aaden that are still in the private school.
Hi Everyone. I haven't posted in a while but just have to say I think not inviting Jon to the twins graduation was so incredibly cruel. That is a life long hurt for him to not be there to see his daughters graduate.
Mady and Cara need to get away from their nasty mother. She has poisoned them against their father and basically Mady is a younger version of her mother and needs a serious reality check. They are not special, any more than any other regular kid. Sorry for the rant but that just made me so mad and hurt for Jon.
I actually think it was just as much the twins' behavior as Kate's that drove Hannah away. I don't think she gave them the respect they thought they were entitled to. Hopefully once the twins are out, the remaining four will find the courage to stand up for themselves.
No one on campus is going to care about them. I teach on a major campus. I’ve taught the grandson of a president, one of the richest kids in my state, Olympic gold medalists, star football players, etc. I don’t know who they are most of the time, and none of the kids in their classes care at all. I’m once asked a student who held the world record in his sport if he was any good at it because I honestly had no clue if he was a benchwarmer or a star. If they go to a campus and pull diva stuff, it will be only to their detriment.
Mady and Cara need to get away from their nasty mother. She has poisoned them against their father and basically Mady is a younger version of her mother and needs a serious reality check. They are not special, any more than any other regular kid. Sorry for the rant but that just made me so mad and hurt for Jon.
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I've been wondering to myself how much kids their age are even much aware of this show or who they are. It was kids their age who were watching the show when it was on. Years ago! Those kids are now in their late 20's and 30's. Kids their own age were like 7 when the show was in its heyday. Who much remembers what they watched when they were seven, if they even watched this at all?
And by the way just to give a little perspective, I was less than a year out of college when this show was on. I remember tuning in as I was gathering applications for jobs to mail out. So I was basically a college kid watching (and initially liking) the show.
I'm willing to bet the majority of people who would have any interest in these girls are at least 25 years old now and much older. Not CURRENT college kids.
Kate probably got the picture with the twins in it, and the other parents got the pictures without the twins in it. Kate doesn't want the other parents selling her children to tabloids. She's only allowed to do that.
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I'd bet the farm in a million years nobody at that school would ever do that. But then Kate is a narcissist.
Yes, we've seen Cara's temper. She often got angry at TFW such when as playing the smash the pumpkin game, when her mother tried to hug her, sulking when at a store buying the tups' clearance birthday clothes, yelling at Mady over musical instruments, RV episode..Jon and Kate said in an early episode she keeps her feelings pent up then they explode.I recall a few tiffs with Mady such as over birthday gifts, who was born first etc.
Mom2two here. Sorry about mixup With Gia. Cara listed where she is going on her “private” instagram. It says Fordham ‘23. So the People article must be out (have not has time to look)
I ran into this 5 year old article from when the twins, Kate, and Skeeve went to the Demi Levato concert. “The reality TV star attended the gig at the Patriot Center in Fairfax, Virginia earlier this month with twins Mady and Cara, 13 and fellow concertgoers have alleged they noticed her and Steve, who has also denied a romantic relationship with Kate, holding hands.” A source told RadarOnline: 'The biggest surprise of all was who she was holding hands with. She was holding hands with Steve Neild, her bodyguard.'They are most definitely a couple and were NOT trying to hide it. We were surprised considering we kept up with all the Jon & Kate Plus 8 drama.”
I don’t know how Gina has dealt with these rumors all these years. Unless they are in an open marriage.
2) Radar reports the insider said: 'We were at the Demi Lovato concert on Sunday night and had just entered the building and were browsing the merchandise table. I turned and saw a girl who looked familiar but turned away and didn't think much of it.Next thing you know we heard someone yelling, "You both need to come back here now! Get over here and stay together! Where are you guys going?!"'I turned around and lo and behold, it was Kate Gosselin b****ing out the twins. The girls seemed embarrassed and their faces were pleading, "Please don’t know my mother." They looked deflated. Myself and two friends were shocked and appalled.'
Another thing I don’t get is how Kate has always embarrassed the twins. We have seen their rude behavior towards her and their eye rolls, yet there always has been a loyalty towards their mother and they usually defend her. It’s a love hate relationship. Kate is using the twins again for this dating show, yet they seem to go along with whatever she wants for the most part. But they clearly detest her. I don’t get it.
While Kate, the twins and Neild sat with everyone else, they allegedly did get some special treatment. The source said: 'We decided to go to our seats and as we turned around we saw the twins, Neild and Kate walk to the side and bypass the entire merchandise line to be served.'
This is just another example of the special treatment that they have always gotten. And I’m afraid that this special treatment won’t last forever. Their star power is fading but they’ve grown accustomed to this. Eventually reality will hit and it will be a shock. This is where Kate is failing them
I know Fordham. Excellent school, unbelievably expensive. But she'll be in NYC, where I think a kid like her could blend into the crowd and have a pretty anonymous life. I think she'll thrive, and a much better choice than that lemon of a school down south.
Although, they don't have an NCAA lacrosse team. Just club lacrosse, which is just glorified pick up games. She may not even be that into lacrosse anymore, who knows.
Good for Cara, Fordham is a great school. Hopefully she has enough money set aside so that she won’t graduate with a lot of debt. Going to school in NYC is a great experience - I know from experience. I hope that she makes the most of it. I wonder where Mady is going.
It also leaves her readily accessible to Mommy Dearest should the urge strike to be followed around by a TV camera crew. Fordham is a great school (brother went there), but I sort of wish she had gone a bit further away. And I sincerely hope her sister has chosen somewhere else.
Fordham is very expensive. My cousin attended law school there. An undergrad will pay around $75,000 for tuition board and other fees. Then add in books, personal expenses etc. and you are looking at $85,000 plus. Maybe she is giving the college fund to her BFFs C & M and the younger kids who made that family rich will need to go to State schools or trade schools. Nothing wrong with either, just saying the twins get priority on everything it seems.
I'm a Fordham grad - wow. As surprised as I am that Cara chose Fordham (for some reason I was expecting a southern school), I'd say she'd fit in pretty well there in its current form (more 'high end' students compared to when I was there).
Did a little research on Fordham. It’s admission rate is 46% with students scoring a 29 on the ACT. The tuition is $49,000 with room and board $20,000. Do you suppose Kate did an ‘Aunt Becky’ and that is how Cara got in?
I wonder if Kate will have to give H and C a refund since they go to public school? She has spent a fortune sending the others to a private school...not criticizing her for that, education is important. But I hope H and C's money isn't paying for their siblings' pricey private school while they attend "regular" school.
I wonder if the NC school was one that Mady was interested in attending. She has said she's not a serious student like Cara. It was private and expensive, too, although I don't think it was as expensive as Fordham. College is not an easy financial burden to bear, even with scholarships or loans. Tuition, room, board, books, fees, allowances. We ended up tripling our kids' allowances when they went off to college. The twins will want to do things with friends, go out to eat, buy snacks, decorate their rooms, buy clothes and school logo stuff, go to Starbucks, etc, and no kid wants to be the one to say, "Sorry, I can't go, I don't have any money". M&C won't stand for that. Cara will be surrounded by very wealthy students, and most likely Mady will too. Of course, Kate can try to use that as an excuse to get them to film during the summers--"I can't pay for your college if you don't film with me!". But like I have said before--you can never be too prepared!
I wonder if there is a small degree of trepidation in TFW about Cara leaving the compound. Remember, Mommie Dearest is in charge and that's never gonna change. Mady seems like she's imbibed enough Kool-Aid to stay loyal at least through the 4 years of college. But I don't know if TFW can be as confident about Cara. The Freshman 15 may be the least of her mother's concerns.
It's hard to believe even the wisest of investments would be able to pay for Fordham. And if it somehow is, does that mean each of the other 7 kids will have an account they can draw for to pay for a school that's going to be more than 200k when all is said and done? That's a lot of dough.
I think this university is great, quite possibly the best decision Cara ever made, but I really hope the adults did right by these kids and there's enough to pay for it all. Cara lived her childhood under the cameras, she doesn't need to live her adulthood under Sallie Mae.
They may not need it, but if there's really $3-400K socked away for EACH kid, then kudos to Kate/Jon. Somehow I doubt it, but IF she and Jon really did put into "trust" as much as they said they did, at the height of their fame/implosion, then I guess it's possible. We'll never know whether these kids have to take out loans or have won scholarships to mitigate these huge expenses. Unless, of course, they tell us.
It does seem unlikely, though, what with the ongoing private-school expenses plus the household expenses, and factoring in almost 3 years with NO filming from 2011 to 2014 and then again from 2017 until quite recently (with a much-reduced cast), that there is that much available, especially considering Kate is likely to be "retiring" sooner than later.
Any news on the status of that child support case for $130K (est.) she filed against Jon a while back? :) Perhaps this is part of her retirement strategy?
Sad but true (148) said... Any news on the status of that child support case for $130K (est.) she filed against Jon a while back? :) Perhaps this is part of her retirement strategy? ************ I've been wondering about that too. When I read the blind item that mentioned using a bribe to be able to continue to film her children (presumably this was Kate), I immediately thought she might have filed that bogus CS claim as leverage against Jon. He wouldn't sign for the kids to film, so she filed and then tried to basically blackmail him into signing for the kids to film. "Sign the papers or I'll take you to court for $130K, which I know you can't pay. Even if the court sides with you, it will cost you a fortune to fight this". Last we heard, Jon was fighting back. It's funny how Kate always seems shocked that Jon would fight back--she's filed bogus lawsuits against him before, and dropped the charges immediately when things get rough. She should expect it by now, but she is such a bully--she' just can't help herself. The need to bully someone is just too strong. Then, in true coward/bully fashion, she runs away the moment her victim stands up to her.
And if the schools were revealed you'd move into judgment mode just as you did when they visited some college and people here tore it to shreds. The pattern of behavior on this blog is the opposite of not caring.
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Incorrect. Everyone here has been praising the merits of Fordham, and a regular poster here and a poster's borther are even alums. As much as your lot has tried to peddle that "you all just want to hate" mantra, it simply isn't true. When Cara was looking at a terrible school, we said it was terrible. Now that she's settled on a great school, we've called it what it is, great. Heck, perhaps someone in her real life said to her that's a terrible school don't go there, and she ended up at Fordham instead. Somewhere in her journey she was either given good advice or she came to the conclusion herself in her research. Either way, everyone here has said GOOD.
People are at most mentioning the outrageous cost, which is a fact, not a criticism. It doesn't make it a bad school.
I’ve discovered that Mady is following Syracuse University on her private insta. So I wonder if that is where she will attend.
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Interesting. Another excellent school. I imagine she's either considering them or perhaps going there. It's rigorous. I got accepted there and was thrilled and honored, and I vividly remember visiting it. It was an extremely close call for me, but I ended up going to Penn State, which was arguably equally as good but much, much cheaper. At the time it was going to run me 30k a year without scholarships if I went to Syracuse, which sounds cheap now! It must be near double that now.
No troll, we don't blindly knock all schools. Fordham and Syracuse are two incredible schools I think they would both thrive at.
However if Mady thinks Syracuse would be a quick hop skip and a jump from NYC....not so much.
Syracuse is a good school for communications if that’s what Mady is interested in. It’s also got a good photography program and we know that Kate is always giving her picture credit. On her private IG she’s got 🍊 🍊 🍊 under her name so that’s a pretty good indication that she’s going to Syracuse without coming out and naming the school. Good for Mady.
On her private IG she’s got 🍊 🍊 🍊 under her name so that’s a pretty good indication that she’s going to Syracuse without coming out and naming the school. Good for Mady.
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UH HUH. Syracuse.
Great job, Mady. Congrats. Gosh darn good school. They will expect top notch academics, so hunker down and study.
Thank goodness they weren't taken in by that near unaccredited mess down south.
I guess my question remains even if they saved every dime from this show, which we know they couldn't based on what we know Kate has spent it on between the house and private schools....HOW would schools of this expense be paid for for eight kids? Even with the best of trusts, they're not children of Fortune 500 CEO's. They're small time reality stars who haven't been on TV in two straight years. One of the greatest mysteries of this whole saga is how Kate isn't bankrupt by now.
Admin- I think it’s quite possible that is where she will attend.She isn’t following Fordham or the NC school. Who knows. It fits in with the same private research university mold as Cara’s school. The fees run approximately 69,000 a year including room and board. Both school are academically rigorous. So I don’t think these girls will have a lot of time to film, or they will risk falling behind
Well, she's got Alexis in a photo. Guess she's not barred from posting pix of the tups. Some bird chat ensued.
kateplusmy8 Verified Alexis and Zorro. The best of friends! ❤️❤️ #Zorro #SixYearsOldAlready #BlackCappedConure . . . bonniehaeberle Awww besties! Is today Zorro’s hatch day? Six is still relatively young in bird years.🦜
kateplusmy8 Verified @bonniehaeberle No. He turned 6 on May 26, actually. He is still young lol. My kids kids will meet him..... say, what??!
mydmaxx2581's profile picture mydmaxx2581 It’s been along time since a Zorro post. Good to see Alexis and Zorro. How long do those live? So I’m not a bird person so don’t know much about them at all.
kateplusmy8 @mydmaxx2581 30+ years?! So he’s still a young guy! Question is: when Alexis goes to college, seriously, I don’t know what I’ll do! He calls her name ALL day long when she’s at school and once she walks through the door, he’s frantic for her to hold him! He refuses to allow anyone else to get him out tho— occasionally he lets Joel or Aaden get him, but no one else!!! He lets me hold him only if Alexis brings him TO me. A fickle little guy.... but I love him so much!
mydmaxx2581 Are the kids (and Mom) ready for summer break? 😁☀️
kateplusmy8 Verified @mydmaxx2581 one million percent, YES!
Hats off to Mady and Cara for getting into solid universities. Their mother has consistently referred to school as some kind of inconvenience at best, or a boring downer at worst. But luckily it looks like the girls must not have adopted her disinterest in higher education.
Nope, not incorrect. You are still judging...just in this case you have approved of her choice. That is a judgment. (I'm sure Cara is overjoyed to have your seal of approval.) And it again shows the opposite of "not caring" which was what the OP claimed. Not to mention the absolute hypocrisy of going on and on about privacy and then posting information that Cara has not chosen to reveal publicly.
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Don't change the subject. Your original contention was not that people are being judgmental. Your original contention was that no matter what school she went to we wouldn't like it. That's simply not the case. You just don't want to admit you're wrong about us, that in fact they are going to two schools the posters here quite like and many have personal experience with, including me, who got accepted into one of them, likely by the skin of my teeth. Your original premise is we give the girls a hard time. It's not true.
I feel no need to protect such information of two adults when both of them are flashing big hints about where they are going on social media. If they wanted to keep it a secret, they might not want to post oranges on their social media account. Are you from NY? Anyone who grew up in NY as I did knows exactly what that can only mean. It'll come out anyway, as it's impossible to keep your name off college web sites whether it's for awards, articles, sports, or photos, your name will show up on google eventually.
And yes both schools are rigorous. There will be homework to do constantly, even over holidays. You will be expected to find internships over the summers and work full time. Filming is not only difficult but unwise. I found the demand of my academically rigorous college were just as difficult as subsequently going to law school, at times more!
@mydmaxx2581 30+ years?! So he’s still a young guy! Question is: when Alexis goes to college, seriously, I don’t know what I’ll do! He calls her name ALL day long when she’s at school and once she walks through the door, he’s frantic for her to hold him! He refuses to allow anyone else to get him out tho— occasionally he lets Joel or Aaden get him, but no one else!!! He lets me hold him only if Alexis brings him TO me. A fickle little guy.... but I love him so much!
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This is the most interesting little story she's told in like three years.
June 10 People magazine, Just read it today. Alex Trebek on the cover. No mention of TFMJG or any progeny in the print edition. Virginia connection with Fordham University: Fordham is in the Atlantic 10 or A10 athletic conference, along with Virginia Commonwealth University! Go Rams! Fordham and VCU are both nicknamed Rams. please note that VCUs "Rodney Ram" is much more muscular than the Fordham Ram.
Syracuse is in the Atlantic Coast Conference, ACC. University of Virginia and VPI Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University and the Carolina schools Duke, NC State, UNC, and Wake Forest. ACC Basketball is the best and most exciting!
Hats off to Mady and Cara for getting into solid universities. Their mother has consistently referred to school as some kind of inconvenience at best, or a boring downer at worst.
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I think this is a good sign that Kate may not really have much of an influence on them. She has never presented as someone with a natural curiosity about the world, drive, work ethic, wit, social skills, ambition, or any other trait that is well suited to a successful four year term at university. But, I'll tell you, lots of kids end up at good schools who have parents who were for various reasons unable or unwilling to be of much support in this endeavor. Or maybe just aren't able to understand or relate to it, but their kids can and do thrive.
I’m actually glad (hopeful) they seem to be going to different schools. It will give them the opportunity to be themselves on their own terms. They will have very different experiences and that will likely be a good thing. Both are solid schools and will give them great educations if they want them.
I think it's excellent they're going to different schools too. It seems to me every child in that family need to be out of the environment and "pack" in order to really find their true identities. I think these girls are going to find college a shock, but they will adjust. It will be interesting to see the thoughts and opinions that develop in the twins away from each other, and Kate, for the very first time.
Funny I would have excepted Mady to go more to a bustling place in NYC where she can do a lot of the cultural things the city has to offer, and the more studious, quieter Cara to hunker down in a stone-swept tundra up in Syracuse. But I think this is everything they both need.
Syracuse is a great place for Mady to be surrounded by salt of the earth folks. It's authentic, and full of blue collar kids from around NY and the country, despite being so expensive. They have scholarships, grants and loans and so kids make it work. I just knew I would make a million friends if I went there, and I was sad when I passed on their offer. Funny this news is bringing up my own what if's. What if I had gone to SU?
We haven't really discussed it here, but the college admissions scandal sure is juicy. I read most of the indictment, and I would say Lori Laughen is guilty by emoji. She sure posted a lot of positive emojis in support of all the illegal shit going down.
I wonder if Mady and Cara chose to go to New York for college to get away from their mother. Their schools are far enough away that they can't be expected to come home on the weekends. Probably just school breaks. They would probably rather meet up in NYC and explore instead of going home to Wernersville when they have a weekend free, anyway. And yes, summer internships are huge now. They will need to do as many of those as possible if they want to get jobs after college. All of my sons have had to work internships in order to be marketable, and it's expected that college grads will have a few to put on their resumes these days. If Kate thinks they'll be hanging out at home and filming with her during the summer, she'll have to think again. The time has come for them to become more independent.
I have a friend whose daughter is at Syracuse studying architecture. She loves it there. Mady made a good choice. I think it's good that the twins are going to different school so they can be more independent of one other. Their school are close enough to visit occasionally, but far enough apart to have their own lives.
I'm also baffled about Kate's finances. The twins may have some scholarships, but I doubt they are getting a free ride. Kate's most profitable year was apparently 2008, and even then she and Jon made less than $2M. She's had an expensive divorce, lots of legal costs, a money suck of a house to maintain, 6-8 kids in private school, and about 5 years of unemployment since then. She hasn't made enough to cover all their expenses plus the kids' schooling even during the years she has been filming. Something just doesn't add up.
Without even checking google I would ballpark Syracuse at a good 5-6 hours from home. That is plenty far enough away to not even bother most weekends, and they shouldn't. Good choice.
I'm also baffled about Kate's finances. The twins may have some scholarships, but I doubt they are getting a free ride. Kate's most profitable year was apparently 2008, and even then she and Jon made less than $2M. She's had an expensive divorce, lots of legal costs, a money suck of a house to maintain, 6-8 kids in private school, and about 5 years of unemployment since then. She hasn't made enough to cover all their expenses plus the kids' schooling even during the years she has been filming. Something just doesn't add up.
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Are we missing a stream of income here? Did Steve have her invest early in GoPro and the finances took off? She HAS to have some other stream of dependable income (a stream Jon doesn't have access to, apparently) or she wouldn't be able to so calmly maintain this high end lifestyle and funnel the twins to the most expensive schools in NY state.
Nobody makes this much money at reality shows or everybody would do it forever. Unless you're the Kardashians, who truly made a brand out of it, there isn't spectacular money in this line of entertainment and I can guarantee there was not spectacular money in a reality show on TLC from 2009. At best it should have been good for a couple years and that's about it.
Maybe you’d better take another look at SU. Google Unigo Syracuse university to see what the students have to say.
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I don't need Google. I know what's there. I've spent nearly a week there (for a high school conference, visiting friends, etc), know maybe 20 people who went there or are going there or work there, and was good friends with one of the former football coaches. My aunt went there, close church friends went there, and maybe 5 kids from my high school class went there. All did great, none of us had a lick of money.
You will find kids you don't like at every and any school. Overall, Mady will find good decent kids at that school in abundance. Upstate NY is a wonderful place.
Layla (#164), another potential fly in the ointment for Mommie Dearest will be if the twins get involved in romantic relationships that start taking up their precious little free time. Suddenly spending weekends in PA on the interview couch with their crew daddies will lose its luster.
Oh, that savvy TFW...chitchatting about her bird a week before her return to TV. She sure knows how to stir up interest. Zzzzz...
Half-hearted Insta chatting isn't much of an improvement publicity wise from that chick with the Walmart parking lot sign all those years ago. She's her own worst enemy.
When the tups were born they were given free college tuition as I recall (I thought it was for Pa colleges...don't know details) but if the tups are set for college maybe the twins can use all the money set aside in trust from the show for their college.
TFW has not done them any favors by telling them they deserve everything on a golden platter. She was able to control things up until now (two senior group pictures) but she’s about to lose that control. I think the girls will be in for a big dose of reality as they will no longer be the big fish in a small pond. Welcome to the real world.
When the tups were born they were given free college tuition as I recall (I thought it was for Pa colleges...don't know details) but if the tups are set for college maybe the twins can use all the money set aside in trust from the show for their college. --------
A college fund was set up but it did not guarantee them free college tuition. It was so people could donate money for their college expenses.
I remembered incorrectly.The Tuition Assistance Program was set up by the Lt Governor of Pa. for ALL 8 Gosselin children. I remember hearing Jon say their college was already paid for (so the amount must be quite substantial). Donations for the 8 children were sent to Gosselin TAP account in Harrisburg. So it sounds like Kate isn't parting with her money from the show to pay for the twins' college.
I remembered incorrectly.The Tuition Assistance Program was set up by the Lt Governor of Pa. for ALL 8 Gosselin children. I remember hearing Jon say their college was already paid for (so the amount must be quite substantial). Donations for the 8 children were sent to Gosselin TAP account in Harrisburg. So it sounds like Kate isn't parting with her money from the show to pay for the twins' college. ======== I thought that the fund that was set up by the alt Governor was for the tups only and it was for them attending a state school in PA. I thought that’s why both Jon and TFW said college was paid for. I’m sure that money has been put aside for each but if they all chose expensive private colleges that’s got to be some major bucks.
I remember the TAP fund was set up for the tups to go to a state school in PA only. The funds were started with $3,000 each and the citizens of PA and others were asked to donate to these funds. I doubt a lot of people donated to this.
FlimsyFlamsy (172) What will Kate do if the twins start dating and they don't want it filmed? That's probably her worst nightmare right now.
I remember when I went off to college, the girls who were the most sheltered/controlled prior to college were the ones who rebelled the most. They went wild. They didn't know how to handle all that freedom. Not saying that will happen to the twins, but I saw it happen way too many times. My sons have talked about it too--that the kids who were smothered growing up don't seem to understand where the boundaries lie.
I used to be into all the Gosselin drama but took a break for a few years. I see they are putting her new show, in between the two 90 day fiance shows that are very popular. It is going to be the new 90 day the other way, then Kate, then 90 day pillow talk. This has to be the best possible time slot they could give any show. Do they really want it to succeed that much? I know loyal 90 day fans are not going to appreciate Kate popping up in the middle of the 3 hours of programming.
IIRC, there were TAP funds set up for the kids but not funded. People could make donations if they wanted to. Both Jon and Kate have said they set up college funds for the kids, and they wouldn't have to do that if the TAP accounts were fully funded for college. I'm guessing the trust funds are their college funds, and I assume their private school tuition comes out of that too. Kate doesn't make enough from filming to pay their living expenses and private school.
As far as wealthy/blue collar students, any school is going to have a mix of both. I have helped my boys move in at the beginning of the school year and seen students lugging Louis Vuitton duffle bags into their rooms. Many of the kids drive Range Rovers, Mercedes, BMWs. Cartier bracelets are a "thing". If M&C decide they want to hang with those kids, the price tag will be steep. Fortunately there are plenty of students from all socioeconomic backgrounds to hang with, but M&C seem to really like that golden platter lifestyle.
"Are we missing a stream of income here? Did Steve have her invest early in GoPro and the finances took off?"
His wife works for a financial group. I've always wondered if they helped Kate set up good investments. I googled Gina Nelid, and here's her work bio page: https://www.xmlfg-w.com/who-we-are/our-team/gina-neild
For those with strong stomachs, Jill Duggar Dillard has a new blog post about keeping your husband sexually satisfied. I wish I was joking. Looks like someone's peanut butter and jellus of Jessa's attention now that she's had a girl, so she needed to up the ante. The only thing up for me is my lunch.
I saw Jill's post too about keeping hubby happy and sexually satisfied. It seems she has perverted ideas like her brother. I guess nothing is sacred in that family.
Jill's mother has basically said the same thing. Her term for it is blissfully available. She blamed Anna for Josh cheating on her. She did this by releasing a blog soon after the scandal broke that said that husbands cheat on their wives because the wives are not blissfully available at all times.
I can only speak about Syracuse but at least when I got in almost nobody actually paid the full sticker price. They threw scholarships at almost everyone just to get them in the door. I think they got my tuition down to about half, which was a start. But, I got some good advice that after year one they'll yank the scholarships and it's closer to full price, and even with half off, Penn State was still cheaper.
I hope the twins have a solid plan for how to pay for these schools for the full four years. It's way too much debt to be saddled with in your 20s.
She's woefully ignorant about a healthy sex life. For starters, I really cannot believe she's telling couples how OFTEN to have sex. That's such a private and individual thing, and what's healthy and normal for some couples isn't for others. 3-4 times a week is insanely unrealistic for couples who work, have young children, and various other obligations. Good lord Jill, let us get some sleep some days of the week. For others, perhaps that's not nearly enough. She has no clue what she's talking about.
Also, ain't fasting for my husband. I'm not going to be exhausted from excessive sex AND hungry.
Some of the other of it is actually good advice. She actually has some wise thoughts about listening to your partner. "Try to get at least 15-20 min. of uninterrupted time to talk every day! (Time to talk is important!) When he is talking, be quiet and listen, don’t interrupt and draw conclusions or offer advice right away." I think she's right that people jump in too quickly into solve mode and don't just thoroughly hear the person out first. Often, they just want to air things out, and aren't looking for solutions from you.
And this is good "Ask God to give you ideas of how you can surprise your husband or do things that will mean a lot to him" except is it okay I ask Google instead?
Admin (192) My friend's daughter who is at Syracuse has a very hefty scholarship, but she has to maintain a very high GPA and resubmit her family's financials every year to keep it. Many students go a little wild their first years in college and their GPAs slip. and they end up losing scholarships. It takes real dedication to keep up the GPA, especially since the classes are very challenging. Fortunately she's incredibly focused and has her priorities straight.
Admin (192) My friend's daughter who is at Syracuse has a very hefty scholarship, but she has to maintain a very high GPA and resubmit her family's financials every year to keep it.
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I went through this with myself and my friends and I'm really torn about it in hindsight. Like many students, I didn't pick the easiest major in college and I didn't do the bare minimum credits every semester. I pushed myself at times, and challenged myself, and took on some harder classes with more demanding professors because that's what was best for me and my education. Problem with that though, is the scholarships. You challenge yourself with a couple upper level courses and if anything goes wrong, that scholarship is sunk. It's like you get punished for doing right by your own education, punished for making the most of it. The price of college and how the aid all works is an interesting topic that has never bored me even after being out of school for years.
I thought Jill's post was very sexist and one-sided. She did say to leave an abusive relationship, though. I agree that this is a private matter, not fodder for a blog post. The blissfully available made me laugh.I would have hated to read what Kate had to say on the subject!
That's a pretty scathing Radar piece, with a named TLC source and everything. Too bad no one cares enough to let her "set the record straight" anymore. And with only 4 kids left at home, her frazzled single mom brand is getting less legit by the day. Poor brand-less Schmoopy.
Admin, no pressure, but I hope you're keeping in tip-top mental and physical shape to deliver us a recap of the dating show. A grateful public awaits your brilliance...
I thought Jill's post was very sexist and one-sided.
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It’s clear she still sees her role in the marriage is to serve her man and his needs not just physically but everything. I wish there was something in there about how a woman can identify and communicate HER needs in the relationship.
Admin (#200), I guess it's lucky Jill's sons probably won't be going to public school. Because at some point some kid is gonna Google Mommy, and tell everyone about what she and Daddy were doing while they were watching Paw Patrol. Is nothing sacred? Does privacy no longer exist? I don't believe for a second this was written to be of service to other couples. Now that she's no longer on the show (thanks to the homophobic nitwit she's servicing 4 times a week), Jill has had to find new and improved ways to get clicks.
Speaking of which...will Jill now transition from hawking tops from her cousin Amy's boutique to promoting lotions for sexy time? Stay tuned!
490 sediments (sic) from readers:
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julesncarols
Is this Kate’s real page or it’s a fan page?
kateplusmy8
@julesncarols lol it’s me. You can tell by the blue ‘verified’ check mark😉
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kklewlew
Do you have any suggestion for combating the DOG hair? We recently got a lab....dog hair is killing me!
kateplusmy8
@kklewlew you and your vacuum shall become best friends.... like me and mine have😉😉😉😉
kklewlew
@kateplusmy8 Lol! I thought that’s what you may say! No magical doggy hair cures! Ha! BTW...you have a beautiful family and happy to see you have a show again!
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samanthamoran2
You were pretty intense in the beginning but I’m positive I would have been the same way. You had A LOT to deal with. But you are a great mom. We see the softer side of you. 🤗
kateplusmy8
@samanthamoran2 You.Totally.Get.Me.
triponejaw
@samanthamoran2 "great mom's" don't abandon their son. Just sayin... 🙄
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polskimama
When does your new dating show start?
kateplusmy8
@polskimama June 10!!!!
Interesting that TFW, the self proclaimed dog lover, didn't bother to reply to this comment, but Clay did:
kateplusmy8
@clay._.13 Clay! Don’t make me cry! Kisa isn’t wearing out... not til she’s 102! 😉
clay._.13
@kateplusmy8 I wish dogs lived that long 😂
gayletwomey
@clay._.13 my dog passed yesterday. I am completely heartbroken
clay._.13
@gayletwomey that’s terrible😢. I’m sorry.
Former Lurker (#199), it's sickening when she turns on the phony sentiment. Awww...she's SO sensitive about her friend's dog! Give me a break. This is a woman who beat up TODDLERS. Where was all this tender hearted emotion when her son was in an institution for 3 years?
We all called it. As soon as she needed them, she popped back in on social media to connect with the fans. Typical transactional behavior from a narcissist.
TFW is like the snobby teenager who befriends the brainy but unpopular girl so the girl will help her with an assignment. Then she disappears from the unpopular girl's orbit until she needs a other favor. That's the dynamic between TFW and her viewers. She's hoping the unpopular girl is so desperate for a friend that she'll come running back.
Any day some fan will ask, "Are we gonna have a tweet party when the show airs?" And ol' gaslighting TFW will probably say something like, "Duh, of course!" As if she's been available to them for chitchat every Monday since that last episode aired. And I suspect Mady will be part of it as well. But that coach better be careful not to get too much positive attention, or she'll wind up on the curb with Beth and Aunt Jodi.
Well, I hope Shoka is healthy too. Maybe he just doesn't go all the way down the long driveway? Who knows but I am always concerned for any animal under TFW's care/ Look at poor Nala and Shoka when she neglected them.
That's another persona Kate tried on: animal lover.Fail.
Yes, Clay is Jamie's son's name. He's the one Cara was so mean to on the RV trip. The tups were mean to him ,too, on the organizing episode when Kate was rude to the ladies helping her
I cannot believe there are people who cannot see through this vile woman. Some of the over the top comments praising her are nauseating . There is nothing about her to admire in reality. They see what they want and ignore the facts. She would be nothing without the sextuplets. The twins would be nothing without the sextuplets. The fact they don't seem to understand that is setting them up for a huge disappointment in the future. The fact so many are wishing the show was about the kids too, has got to be an ego deflater for her. She has to be in a panic because if this show fails, there will never be a Kate plus 8 again.Having only 4 kids at home is mediocre.
So.. I kind of watched the live graduation ceremony of M and C on social media. I saw both girls getting their diplomas. Both girls looked very pretty wearing white dresses like the other graduates. C looked a little shy while up on stage, while M hammed it up posing for her graduation photo, hands on her hips. One thing I never realized is that her full name is Madelyn Kate Renee Gosselin. So I never knew Renee was one of her middle names. As the ceremony ended and the guests filed out, I’m almost 95 percent positive I saw TFW on the left hand side with Alexis, Aaden, Joel, Leah as they were leaving. There was a dark haired girl behind them so I’m not certain if that was H or someone who looked like her. But no purse boy, no Friends or family that I could see with her. She hugged a young girl who must have been a student and exchanged a few words with her right before leaving the gymnasium.
-Gigi Be
I think she's hoping to find a way to film the younger kids again. If (when!) this dating show bombs, she'll need them. I think she's planning to do a show with a new guy--one she "finds" on the dating show--and the next show will be this guy meeting the kids and becoming a part of the family. Just like she wanted to do with Jeff the Millionaire before he backed out. She knows the show hasn't worked without Jon, so she thinks she can find another guy to take his place. But, of course, she needs to use the kids to make the show even marginally successful/interesting, and Jon is in the way of her doing that. I hope Jon sticks to his guns and refuses to let her film the kids. They're kids--just let them be kids for once. She can't make them support her forever, can she?
Its possible that Shoka just isn't up to walking down that long driveway with the younger dogs. He might be on the porch or up near the house and hidden by the trees.
Layla, that's what I meant in my last post.Dogs often get arthritis or hip problems in their golden years.
Gigi Be, thanks for the info- this was filmed?? Quite possible that was H as C seems to be on a road trip. You , Layla and Former Lurker provide a lot of scoops here!
The graduation ceremony is on YouTube. Cara seems to have gained a bit of weight but it looks good on her. As Gigi Be said, Mady did ham it up on stage (more than anyone else). Cara got more cheers from the class/audience than Mady did. Poor Kate didn’t get any special privileges and had to file out at the end with the rest of the unwashed masses. She will find a way to make this all about her when she posts about it on IG. I hope that Cara at least has the sense to go to college in another state and not somewhere where she can live at home. Mady seems to take after Kate and enjoys the limelight so who knows with her but I do hope that she’ll go to college and not necessarily the same one that Cara goes to.
It really is a shame if Jon and Collin were not invited. They are family and one day the girls will regret it. I hope that the tups will be able to mend the rift between them and their dad sooner rather than later. However, with the twins leaving Kate will focus all her neediness on the remaining 4 (if that makes sense). The twins are gone, Hannah and that other boy are gone, you are all I have left.....poor me, poor me, poor me.
Admin if this is not allowed please delete. But it’s public so i don’t think it’s a problem
-Gigi Be
https://youtu.be/O1DYZcSrk1I
I wonder how the tups' graduation will go, with hopefully Jon and H and C there. I didn't watch the whole thing so didn't have the privilege of seeing Kate but I saw the twins. Mady flounced in, as well.She is so much like her mother!
Thanks Gigi Be
I think if Cara could separate herself from Maddie and Kate, she would mend the relationship with her father. They both completely dominate her. Perhaps getting away from will allow her time to think for herself for the first time in her life.
If TFW doesn't post a graduation picture, it might mean that People magazine has the exclusive rights. Because realest reality.
Gigi Be, thanks for the info- this was filmed??
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It’s called a live stream”. Done by the school.This is very beneficial to those that want to attend a special event but cannot make it. Lots of weddings are doing the same now a days. I didn’t see any TLC cameras
- Gigi Be
Thanks for posting the YouTube link, Gigi Be!
How typical of Mady overdoing her pose for the photographer. *rolling my eyes*
It's so nice of the queen to mix with her public after a long absence. If she didn't have a show, she wouldn't talk to them. The hair talk was stupid. Hair is more interesting than Kate though. The extreme dog love. blech. The dogs probably just give her the attention the children used to, and she can control them. At least Jon will get to see the graduation on video even though he should be there.
Anytime ladies!
-Gigi Be
LOL, Mady's got that cocked hip and head-tilt down pat, doesn't she? If I had to guess, I'd say this is the most important "lesson" she's learned from Mommy Dearest. I feel sorry for Cara, frankly, between the two of them, I'm sure she must feel embarrassed a lot of the time.
So this means either Collin was not welcome at or refused to go to the graduation. I think it’s clear Kate has disowned him. How sad. And for the girls to shun Jon like that. My kid just graduated from college and the ex and his wife and kids came out to dinner with our family. It’s not hard. Makes me so mad
Lurking (#20), good for you for not making your kid choose between 2 parents. You said it's not hard, but that's because you clearly decided to put your kid's needs first. A good parent will always make the choice that's best for the child. But of course I've never accused TFW of being a good mother.
WE is cashing in on Momma June's drug problems. I saw an add for the intervention episodes on YouTube. I just hope that 13 year old Alana is not being pushed in front of the cameras during this time. I also hope she is getting help.
Andrea
Mady posted a photo with her two brothers:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx6J2UOgmuo/
Her dress is pretty short, no? I wonder if she changed, it didn't look quite that daring to me when she was getting her diploma.
You know what's truly heinous about TFW leaving Jon out of the twins' graduation? You can bet it gave her PLEASURE to hurt him that way. I'm not sure C registers enough in her mind to have much emotion about him not being there. But to deprive Jon of seeing his first-born girls on arguably the most significant day of their young lives so far? She loved it because it meant she WON.
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When it comes down to it, I don't think the girls had a lot of choice about keeping up a relationship with Jon. I have no doubt their mother made their lives unbearable with respect to any level of visitation with their father, not to mention all the lies and vitriol she constantly fed them. In the end, it was probably just easier for them to turn away from him, otherwise they'd never have had a moment's peace. I'm sure they were trying for as normal a life as it was possible to have under Kate's sadistic, vengeful reign.
And I agree, it looks like she's just turned her back on Collin. I don't understand how TLC can continue to associate with her, on this ground alone. Is everyone just supposed to ignore the fact that she's shut one of her famous 8 out of her life?
I just checked IG and TFW hasn't posted a graduation pic. No prom pic, no graduation pic probably means they'll be in People magazine or on her dumb new show.
But, Mady just posted a pic of her and her two remaining brothers:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx6J2UOgmuo/
mady.gosselin
big day🎓 ft some of my biggest supporters! #grad
Unbelievable. On Mady's IG post. She's lost in a reality TV fog, this one.
frugalfit_hippiechick
LOVE YOU! Wow! What a day!! So proud of you!!
Remember how Mady described her father as "toxic?" I wonder how she feels about him having custody of her younger brother, of whom she was so protective when TFW was going to throw away his lovie. And what did Mady think when her amazing, strong, brave, role-model mother blew off C's custody hearing?
It still feels strange to type Mady's name. I only typed her initial for so many years. But she's 18 now, and is responsible for her choices. She had every right not to invite her father to her graduation. But it was a cruel choice, and as Sue (#10) said, she and Cara may live to regret it.
Why were the two boys in Mady's picture dressed alike? Sad that Collin wasn't there, although he did comment on her picture telling her he was happy for her. I'm sure Kate and both the girls did not want him there because by him being there, he would overshadow the graduation and be the story, not them. So sad they have chosen z list celebrity status over relationships with their own family.
I went back and watched the very end..was that TFW in a long blue tie-dye style dress who hugged a woman, blocking the aisle?
I could only make out the tops of two boy tups and Leah's head. Was Alexis not there or could I just not see her...yes, that dress on Mady looks very short. The boys look quite dapper!
Giff....I agree with you to a point about Cara. I do think Mady can dominate Cara but I don’t think Cara gives in to Kate. I’m hoping with time the rift between Jon and Cara will be healed. I’m also hoping Cara goes far away from both Mady and her mom for college.
capecodmama (#31), and, sadly, it's not unthinkable that TFW could kick Cara to the curb if she isn't available for filming when Mommie Dearest needs her. Or if she eventually decides to try to mend her relationships with her father and brother.
Cara has already seen her dad and 11-year-old brother disappear from her family. Can any of those kids be sure they won't be next?
Nice to see Collin wishing her congrats on IG.
collin.gosselin
Congratulations!!!!! I’m so happy for you Mady
Thank you for sharing the graduation link. Bothe girls look happy, but I notice Mady’s dress was the same of another tall blond girl, That will mean drama. I also notice Collin wrote on Mady’s instagram well wishes for her! Thats really sweet.
Marie
I think Alexis is next.She was already kept from Jon before the others and seems kind of 'hidden' and shunned a bit as per the show.
Ingrid (#33), oh boy, seeing C congratulate his sister touched my heart. What a fine young man he's becoming.
Sorry, TFW. You didn't break his spirit. He didn't disappear. He didn't turn bitter and angry, like you. You told him he was stubborn and aggressive and hard to love, but he's still a kind and caring soul. Guess you could say HE WON this time.
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No, she was wearing like a orangey-pinkish printed dress, hair down, carrying what looked like yellow roses. She hugs a couple of kids on her way out.
Formerly Duped (#35), yeah, once poor little A stopped saying "aldergators," TFW didn't find her as marketable. Then she became a disruptor, and a bat, and the rebel who wanted a lizard backpack. I'm surprised she's been allowed to stay as long as she has. Yes, I'm being a little flip, but, truly, would another disappearing kid surprise any of us?
Oh, thanks, Sad. The woman I saw in the blue dress with long blonde hair was sitting near the back and looks a lot like TFW. Now I can see 4 tups too and possibly H? Of course TFW would have front seats.
Flimsy, I agree with you! I also think maybe L and A have become closer? I hope so for both their sake. Sad saga indeed. But so happy Collin is doing well and seems to be a young man of integrity.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 36
Ingrid (#33), oh boy, seeing C congratulate his sister touched my heart. What a fine young man he's becoming.
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It was very sweet of him. It would be nice if she’d at least acknowledge him with either a “like” or a “Thanks little bro”. Wait, is he still her brother?
Do you think that the almost 16K “likes” that Mady got on the photo are legitimate or did TFW buy her some bots for a graduation present. Hmmmm, we know that TFW would like her to be some kind of influencer a la Olivia Jade.
It looks like Mady photoshopped her face in the graduation picture with the boys. Her head kind of looks like it’s floating over her body.
I wonder if they had a general seating area for graduation. For ours they give the kids just 2-4 tickets for the floor seats and the rest of the family or friends sit on the bleachers on the sides. First come first serve. Even if I was in a similar position as Jon I would have made sure to be there watching the ceremony even if I didn't get a chance to speak to my kids.
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I agree unless Jon was worried it would cause, what was it TFW said, a mob scene, that would detract from the twins' special day? Or maybe he was told not to attend and honored the girls' wishes. Idk. It's sad he missed it
There are additional graduation pics in the fan page jonkateplus8_forever in instagram. Cara seems so happy. And there are anothe old picture of Mady and Cara in what seems to be a summer camp. A lot of recent pictures of Hannah having a normal life with friends. Good for her.
Marie
I went back and watched the very end..was that TFW in a long blue tie-dye style dress who hugged a woman, blocking the aisle?
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No she came out of the left aisle at the 40 second mark in the front. She had a pinkish sun dress and was carrying a bouquet of yellow flowers. Looks like Alexis was at her shoulder with a big grin. The boys and one or two dark haired girls were following close behind.
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Why were the two boys in Mady’s picture dressed alike?
They are probably school uniforms. Kate is probably too cheap to spend money on new suits
-Gigi Be
Wonder why the girl tups were not in Mady's IG photos/I thought it was a bit weird the way she was holding the boys' cheeks, then looked 2 pictures back and TFW was doing the same to her in a photo!
That fan page is private- isn't that odd for a fan IG- thought they'd get more followers if it was public
Gigi Be (#45), TFW only seems to spend money on her kids when it's someone else footing the bill. Lots of lavish, or as she would say, "posh" parties and trips and dinners and clothes and decorations when they could be included in the show's budget.
You know who's paying for C's road trip with his dad? His dad. That "mediocre" man is providing for his son, without a TV camera in sight. How 'bout dat, Mommie Dearest?
I doubt very much that Mady has a chance in show biz. Unless she has some hidden talent that has been kept a secret. Her personality is that of her mom's and that would really put a lot of people off. She still doesn't understand if it were not for the tups she would just be another mediocre kid from Reading.
It is more than obvious the only motivation for having the sextuplets was to make Kate famous. The older they get and the fact Jon will not let them film, the less she pays attention to them. I fear for the four remaining at home, especially A. And let's pray that the boys have some positive male role models in their lives. It would not surprise me in the least of she sent them all to live with Jon now that they are no longer of use to her. She has no capacity to love or be loved. They only person she has ever loved is herself. I pity the poor fool in a relationship with her, even if it is fake.
Formerly Dupe said: That fan page is private- isn't that odd for a fan IG- thought they'd get more followers if it was public
In order to see the recent pictures in the fan page of jonkateplus8_forever, you just need to request to follow and then you can see the pictures. A lot of recent pictures of their normal life. The page has to be of someone that study in the school. The same you can request for for Colleen and Collin instagram accounts.
Marie
Thanks, Marie. I don't have IG but can see public ones like Jon's and Kate's. I appreciate when posters tell us what's going on, on those private pages !
I should probably get an IG- my dog has one! ( my daughter runs it)
@Marie (50) I sent that person a follow and they accepted.I think i said this before but unless the page's private pictures of the kids got accepted by the kids themselves i felt it was weird of a fan to have these private pictures of the kids.If its true that its someone that attends their school or a friend then the only thing i can think of is that the kids gave them the ok to make the page and post the pictures other wise that would be weird of a school mate or a friend to make a fan page to post pictures of another class mate.
So TFW hasn't said boo about the graduation? That really makes me think there's a People article coming. But, good grief, she didn't even post about it? There's nothing cloak and dagger about a graduation ceremony that's already on Youtube.
But come 2 weeks from today, she'll be chatting up a storm with her social media "friends" to get them to watch the new show.
Looks like Jon’s taken Collin to Myrtle Beach. No cameras, no hype, just good old fashioned, mediocre father and son time. Love it
-Gigi Be
So TFW hasn't said boo about the graduation? That really makes me think there's a People article coming.
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It is odd that TFW hasn’t mentioned the twins’ graduation at all. You’re right Flimsy there may be an article coming out in conjunction with the premier of the fake dating show. However, I don’t think she’ll rate the cover story. I could be wrong because she does have her supporters at People.
Is it possible Kate has come to the realization that nobody is all that interested in hearing about her children's graduation? So she's not talking?
Could be entirely possible she's come to the painful realization, for her anyway, that people just aren't all that interested in herself or her family as they once were so she's swallowed that realization perhaps and just is keeping--shockingly--a lid on it to herself? That is just another typical graduation like everyone else? Not that graduations arenn't special but that they're only special to close family and friends and since she might not have that and her fan base isn't as big as it used to be--she doesn't really have reason to post such a big deal about it?
That and yes her twins are adults and therefore have the right to say no don't post? It's not as if TLC is filming an episode about it anyway so what is exactly in it for her?
No picture of her driveway lined with flags for Memorial Day. I think she used to do that, or maybe I'm thinking of July 4th. In any case, I think someone last year suggested she re-posts the same picture each year.
bm
Jon and Collin are still on their road trip. It's great that Jon and Collin are getting to spend time together alone finally.
Andrea
I guess then that H was with TFW while C is on the roadtrip and went to the graduation? I hope things are ok for her when she visits there.
If there's a PEOPLE cover for the show.I wonder if the twins will "set the record straight" of why Collin is with Jon and why Hannah visits him.Whether they'll actually say something insane like Jon is keeping Collin from Kate or something along those lines.I wouldn't be surprise if Kate would tell them to say something like that.
BlueJay said (56)
It's not as if TLC is filming an episode about it anyway so what is exactly in it for her?
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You hit the nail on the head. If there's nothing in it for her then she's not putting any effort into her fans. No episode? No magazine covers? Fine, then, you get nothing from me!
The twins may have told her that they are adults, it's THEIR graduation, and they'll post it themselves, thank you very much. I wonder if Kate's feeling the loss of control now that they are adults. She can't make them do anything, and if she wants them to film or pose or whatever she has to make it worth their time. I bet that drives her nuts.
I hope Collin can heal from the treatment he has been given by his mother since he was born. I cannot even imagine how he must feel that Hannah is welcomed to the compound but he is not even a thought to her. Thank God for Jon and Colleen showing what unconditional love and care are all about.
"Looks like Jon’s taken Collin to Myrtle Beach."
One of my favorite places. We go once a year. There are a lot of activities there.
It is puzzling Kate has no posts about graduation especially with the show coming up. An article could happen. She posted about their 18th birthday.
Jessa Duggar had a girl after having two sons. The Duggar baby train keeps on.
foxy said... 62
I hope Collin can heal from the treatment he has been given by his mother since he was born.
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I think Collin is going to be fine. His Memorial day post on IG was: "Happy Memorial Day (This wasn't the surprise, Look at my caption in last post) but this post was more important, we must honor those who were and still are heroes to us. Honor our Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Aunts, Uncles, and grandparents who served to save our country." One person commented to him: "You're a kind boy to still honor your mother. I'm so glad she didn't break you and you don't have bitterness." Collin replied: "Thank you that's kind of you to say and very true."
Jon and Colleen seem to be doing a good job with him. His is very sweet and many times will answer people who comment on his posts. He seems to be very sweet and very mature. I'm glad to see that people on his IG don't bash TFW.
That's so mature and generous. I would be proud to call him my son if I were TFW.Well, you know what I mean! Jon and Colleen must be proud and Collin should be of himself.
NJGal, thanks for letting us know what was said on the IG
Jamesvader1194 said... 60
If there's a PEOPLE cover for the show.I wonder if the twins will "set the record straight" of why Collin is with Jon and why Hannah visits him.
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Hannah doesn't "visit" him, she lives with Jon and Collin, full time. She has been living with Jon for over a year now. She's enrolled in a different school, too.
On one of Collin's instagram accounts that People mag photo from several years ago (white clothes,everyone except Collin)was posted 2 days ago. Kate thinks she is coming back, filming whomever, no Collin, no problem.
M.
M @67 - I’m not quite sure what you’re talking about. Colin hasn’t posted that picture on his account.
I think my Collin Gosselin instagram search took me to the Gosselin family fan page. But the post that was posted 3 days ago said after taking a break (from social media), we now will be getting lots of updates on the gosselin family. I'm just afraid Kate thinks after her fake date show, she will be back to filming her kids again.
M.
Thanks for the explanation M. That’s only a fan page and not run by TFW. The account has probably been dormant because the show hasn’t been on. The fan pages, for the most part, just grab pictures from the internet and post them like they’re insiders and just rehash what’s already been printed. None of the “real” Gosselin accounts follow this page (click on followers and you can search by name).
Finally.
kateplusmy8
Verified
#Graduation ..this post is a little delayed (mostly due to post graduation exhaustion lol) but I’m still beaming with pride! It’s hard to believe that Cara and Mady graduated from high school this past weekend ... and are headed off to college in the fall! Where did the time go???? Their Graduation day was such a wonderful day of celebrating THEM and all of their amazing accomplishments! These girls are going places and I can’t wait to see where they end up! Cara and Mady, I love you so very much and I’m just so so proud of YOU! #ProudMom #Graduation #ClassOf2019 #WellDone🎓❤️🎓
Over 30K likes and close to 600 comments, in ONE hour. She's really shelling out for the IG boosts these days.
at the grocery store this evening, flipped thru June 3 issue of National Enquirer. cover story: "The 25 most hated tv celebs" or something like that. and of course The Former Mrs Jon Gosselin is on the second page of the article. Hooray, TFMJG is featured in a national publication!
I'll be sure to post when I get that peer-reviewed journal Peopla in my mailbox next week, if there is any mention of TFMJG.
People finally posted a picture of TFW with Mady and Cara. Because, as she once said, nobody makes money off her kids but her.
I'm not giving her any clicks. Can anyone tell us if there's an article, and what it says?
Sad but true (#71), thanks for your post. Once again, TFW had a wonderful day even though one of her children wasn't in attendace. Like when she said the tups had the best birthday ever, even though one of them was off getting treatment. I suppose C will have to just accept that his absence from the family has absolutely no impact on his mother. Although I still believe it's even worse: she's glad he's gone.
Radar has it up this morning. And our favorite narcissist must be in her glory.
Flimsy 73....there is a small article but not much was said.
They each got their own cake for graduation (first time ever). Kate has on a white dress with orange design, Mady's dress is super short and Cara's dress is plain and normal. She said they have wonderful futures ahead and will go far. Not much of a blurb, but she got her face in People again.
The blurb in People is also on her instagram....she said she is late in posting due to post graduation exhaustion. She is always tired and always makes it about her.
Looks like Colleen and H met up with Jon and C down in Georgia. Colleen’s niece graduated and they are having a big graduation party with Colleen’s family. H and C look very happy.
Kate looks rough in that graduation photo. I would bet that she’s been hitting that boxed wine hard in the last two years, since not filming. C and M had a little celebration afterwards, but it’s in stark contrast to the celebration Colleen and Jon attended. No grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and friends that have helped raised them all their lives. Because Kate has done it all (gag)
-Gigi Be
The picture is up on Us magazine now, too. Maybe it should've been captioned, "TFW and her girls...and her daughters." If she ever decided to market that "good bra" she alleged to have found a decade ago, she'd be a billionaire.
The reason TFW was late with posting the graduation picture on her IG timeline wasn’t due to exhaustion from graduation but rather because she sold the pictures to the media outlets and couldn’t post them before the articles came out online. Her timing is very suspect. I would much rather have been at Colleen’s niece’s party with family and friends all together. Collin and Hannah look very happy and relaxed. Jon and Colleen are doing a good job with them.
That photo of TFW on her instagram looks odd - as if it has been photoshopped around her bum.
She must not be getting free shopping trips for herself. I thought that orange dress looked very familiar so I did a search. She wore it in 2015.
https://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/
Also mentioned on today's 'Page Six' in the New York Post.
She bought a huge amount of IG followers in the past day or so. She's up nearly 5K from Monday. Not a reasonable jump on any planet. Ah Kate, you're just so f---ing transparent.
It's funny how her IG graduation post got picked up everywhere all at the same time. As predicted, she's using their graduation to get free press for her upcoming show.
The Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7087155/Kate-Gosselin-beaming-pride-twin-girls-Cara-Mady-graduate-high-school.html
Here's a link to her Instagram post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByEYFWeDd9T/
Ingrid said... 82
She must not be getting free shopping trips for herself. I thought that orange dress looked very familiar so I did a search. She wore it in 2015.
https://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/
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Good find, Ingrid. As soon as I saw that pic, I also thought the dress looked familiar. It's very unlike TFW to wear a four year old dress, especially when she's posting the pics for publicity and either she or TLC arranged all the articles.
SLKline said... 83
Also mentioned on today's 'Page Six' in the New York Post.
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She is very rarely on Page Six. It's so obvious that she or TLC arranged this little media blitz today. It's not as if all these sites are waiting for her to post something on Instagram so they could publish it immediately. Such a joke.
Of course, Page Six had to include a paragraph with the bitchy comments Mady made about Jon in 2016:
https://pagesix.com/2019/05/30/gosselin-twins-cara-and-mady-graduate-from-high-school/
On his IG, Jon posted a picture of he and Colleen at the Denver airport on the way to LA. He said stay tuned. Some kind of show biz thing?
The pictures from Kate are so predictable as PR for the show.
I can't help but chuckle over TFW wearing that dress to graduation, knowing full well people will remember it. lol
That was a nice gesture giving the girls their own cake after the ceremony, and I imagine she will throw a graduation bash at the McMansion at some point. Probably an open event for the entire class and close cereal-delivering friends and make-up artists/hair stylists so there will be more than 20 people in attendance since there will be no relatives.
NJGal51 said... 80
The reason TFW was late with posting the graduation picture on her IG timeline wasn’t due to exhaustion from graduation but rather because she sold the pictures to the media outlets and couldn’t post them before the articles came out online.
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You're right--she sold the photos to as many media outlets as she could line up, and had to wait to post until she'd squeezed every penny she could out of them. The 4-year-old dress is odd--you'd think she'd buy something new since she was selling the pictures. But she doesn't have the income she once had (hence the push to sell the graduation photos to as many outlets as possible), so maybe a recycled dress was her best option. I don't care for Mady's dress at all--I think it's tacky and inappropriate for a graduation.
jolie Jacquelyn said... 81
That photo of TFW on her instagram looks odd - as if it has been photoshopped around her bum.
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You're absolutely right, and it's a crappy photoshop job, too.
I wonder if Hannah attended the twins' graduation? I'm hope they haven't shut her out because she decided to live with her father. And the pictures Colleen posted with all of the relatives and friends just makes you realize what Kate has taken from her own children. Their father, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. The older they get the less useful they are to their mother, and the less she will want to deal with them. How lonely it would feel to think you had no one to turn to because your mother alienated them all from your life. I hope they can find the strength to mend the relationships she destroyed, because when she tires of them, or finds some sucker who will marry her, she will leave them high and dry...and alone.
Someones arm is in front of her butt by a little bit so it looked photoshopped. White shirt so I am wondering if it is one of her boys.
"Probably an open event for the entire class and close cereal-delivering friends and make-up artists/hair stylists so there will be more than 20 people in attendance since there will be no relatives."
Maybe the boobyguard and his wife too. I just thought of Carla, Kate's friend. Are she and Ashley still in touch?
"I don't care for Mady's dress at all--I think it's tacky and inappropriate for a graduation."
It looked like a nightgown to me. I don't know anything about young ladies' styles today though. It makes me think of Kate bouncing the fake boobs in the bikini and the hooker wear she sported.
That photo of TFW on her instagram looks odd - as if it has been photoshopped around her bum
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If you look closely, their are other students standing next to them. Their is an arm with a white sleeve right next to TFW. Also couldn’t she have sold a better photo that didn’t have Mady’s hair in her face?
-Gigi Be
Giff said... 91
It IS sad, isn't it? On K8's side alone there are probably 8-10 cousins they've never met or haven't seen in a decade. I hope Jon is letting the two living with him make their own choices about reconnecting (or not) with their maternal relatives, including their grandparents. It's lovely to see Colleen including Jon's kids in her wider family circle. Speaks volumes about what kind of person she is, and I'm sure that's not lost on either Hannah or Collin.
"Someones arm is in front of her butt by a little bit so it looked photoshopped. White shirt so I am wondering if it is one of her boys."
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Yes, now that you mention it, you're probably right...
BUT if it's one of her boys, why photoshop him out? Because it takes away from HER!
I hope Aunt Judy and Beth try to connect with Collin & Hannah, now that they are living with Jon. They took such a great care of both of them when they where 2 &3.
Marie
Gigi Be (#78), thanks for posting about Colleen's IG for those of us who aren't on IG and can't see it. It's so nice to know that Collin and Hannah are finally having a normal family life that includes extended family.
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ncgirl said... 88
On his IG, Jon posted a picture of he and Colleen at the Denver airport on the way to LA. He said stay tuned. Some kind of show biz thing?
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Here's the link:
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByGN61nlKRK/
jongosselin1
Denver International Airport-Southwest Airlines Terminal
jongosselin1
In Denver Airport heading to LA, stay tuned!!!
I have no idea who this is, but her IG has a check mark (verified) and she commented on Jon's airport IG post:
brookelewisla
YES 🙌 MY FAVORITE GORGEOUS CRAZY KIDS!!! CAN’T WAIT TO SEE YOU!!! & SHOW EVERYONE “THIS IS HOW WE DO IT!!!” 🎼🎧💥💥💥💥🍾🥂❤️
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Link to her IG:
https://www.instagram.com/brookelewisla/
Her IG bio:
Brooke Lewis
Actress|Philanthropist|Scream Queen|Ms. Vampy|Hot Mess|🙏🎭 iMurders @starz Kinky Killers @showtime Quintuplets @foxtv The Mourning @sagaftrafound
www.brookelewis.com
Brooke Lewis is from Philadelphia so may have met Jon there.
Ingrid (#100), Yes, I looked her up on Wikipedia and saw that she's from Philadelphia.
I just looked at her latest IG pic that she posted eight hours ago. It's a pic from back in 2017 from when she says she got engaged. Her comment on the pic is long and it's all about how their wedding is this weekend. She says the craziness has begun as their welcoming over 250 family and friends from all over to their wedding weekend.
She said on Jon's IG post earlier today that she was looking forward to seeing him and Colleen, so I guess that means they're out there for her wedding.
I’m not sure why Mady deleted her post from back in January , when she was in NYC, wearing the blue denim jacket, and bragging that she was wearing TFW hat.
Also, Cara and Mady both have private instagram accounts that they use to communicate with their friends from school. But Cara has no need to make her life public and will not post on her public account.It just seems funny that both M and Kate keep referring to Cara’s public instagram,while she has not posted anything. I’m glad that Cara has continued to stand for her privacy
-Gigi Be
Jon is there to DJ for Brooke Lewis’ wedding.
Sorry, I hit publish too quickly. Jon is out to DJ at the wedding. He had a quick IG story up about it. He said that he’d tried to go live but couldn’t.
NJGal51 ($104), thanks for that info. It looks like it's going to be a fun wedding. She's been posting about the theme being "old Hollywood" and that it's at the Houdini estate.
Jon commented on her wedding post yesterday:
jongosselin1
Hey I know these people!!! 🤔
brookelewisla
@jongosselin1 You know us better than anyone at this point!!! Lol! But the best is yet to come 🍾🥂❤️
NJGal51 (#103), a wedding DJ gig in L.A. is probably as profitable a gig as Jon can get. And even if this woman is a friend and he does it for a discounted rate, who knows what other work it could lead to. I wish him the best.
I wonder if Kate is going to take the children on the annual summer vacation now that things aren't filming the last summer before the twins go to college and such.
Clearly Jon cook his son on a summer vacation, so she should have no problem?
I mean it shouldn't be quite as exhausting to Kate to take as few children...without a camera crew in tow.
BlueJay said... 107
As far as I can recall, Kate's only taken her kids on a summer vacation without TV cameras twice. Way back when she got that free rental in AL or MS and drove down there with Deanna (and a U-haul full of food, LOL); and 2017 (or was it 2016?) when she and Steve and what looked like most of the kids (no Collin, of course) went to somewhere in NC by a lake. Outside of that, everywhere she's taken them has been paid for by someone else. So I wouldn't necessarily expect her to go anywhere with any of them this summer. Maybe she'll spring for her and the twins for have a getaway, that would be like her.
BlueJay (#107), it's a safe bet that TFW had close to zero responsibility for her kids when they traveled for filming. Whether or not they were ever shown on camera, I can't imagine Her Royal Majesty didn't insist on full-time childcare help on their vacays. She was TLC'S darling in those days, and she had plenty of leverage. I've never thought she was particularly smart, but she was certainly shrewd.
Sad but true (#108), but you know what might motivate Ol' Tightwad TFW to open her wallet for a trip for the kids? Knowing Jon took C on one.
Hi everyone! I reached out to Admin privately who thought this could be some interesting info to share, but I'm going to omit a few details for privacy. It seems that at Mady and Cara's graduation, during the typical senior class photo, two versions were taken - one featuring the twins and one without. This is the version of the photo that is being shared along the usual channels (alumni, current school families, etc). I've only seen the school photo featuring the twins on social media pages of people I know personally. I only share this because I wonder if Kate had anything to do with the decision to take two photos, or if other parents, knowing that the graduation photo could be featured in the media, requested it. It makes me sad to think of the twins having to stand aside and watch all their classmates pose for a group photo, something that's a major, meaningful tradition at this school. However, I'm all for protecting privacy. Anyway, just wanted to share. (As far as I have been able to tell, the school also has been taking measures to keep quiet where M & C will attend college. I do think that's good.)
I really dont get the secrecy of where they will be attending college. Other “celebrity” kids make it known. Gia , Theresa daughter , is going to Penn State, and we have a housewives daughter at the same school of one if mine. I guess TFW is making sure to get paid for this info.
I really dont get the secrecy of where they will be attending college. Other “celebrity” kids make it known. Gia , Theresa daughter , is going to Penn State, and we have a housewives daughter at the same school of one if mine. I guess TFW is making sure to get paid for this info.
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I get the sense that very early in this family's rise to fame, they were given what I see as potentially bad advice that the way to best make the most bang for your buck is to keep things a secret for as long as possible and only reveal the thing at the moment the show airs/a big announcement is made in People/some other money grab off the thing.
And that may work for some things, but you also run the real danger that repeatedly engaging in this behavior will just frustrate and irritate fans (and non-fans who follow you). At the end of the day most people don't like a tease. I think Kate took instruction and advice that was meant for very specific things to only be revealed on the show (a big trip, a house purchase) and applied it to nearly all aspects of her life, which I doubt was ever the intention of the advice.
I don't get the secrecy either. I don't care where they're going, but it's dumb to act like it's a big secret to be revealed when there's no reason not to be included in the info. And it's simply not info that can be kept a secret anyway, so if it's going to come out anyway, why not just say and everyone can be happy for them?
And the two different graduation photos is just darn sad. Nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Even the most famous kids in the world participate fully in school and aren't given special treatment (think Prince George). It could hurt the twins deep down, or it could actually just make them more arrogant and made to believe they are different and special. They're not, and college will teach them that.
Another local said... 111
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Thanks for your post, which I agree was both sad and unusual. I had thought that the kids at least had made it into the mediocre masses of anonymity at least at school where they could be just regular students, not trained monkeys.
Our other local posters have not commented in a while which I took to mean there was no news other than what we hear about H and C and Jon.
It's great to have an insider's point of view and knowledge of the situation. This avoids speculation or rumors.
The graduation seemed to be a special time ( albeit without Jon and C) for the twins where they were part of their class and, looking forward to college, just like all the other kids. I hope this show of TFW does not interfere with their plans
And the two different graduation photos is just darn sad. Nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Even the most famous kids in the world participate fully in school and aren't given special treatment (think Prince George). It could hurt the twins deep down, or it could actually just make them more arrogant and made to believe they are different and special. They're not, and college will teach them that.
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You’d think that they’d know by now that if it weren’t for the tups they’d only be another set of fraternal twins which seem to be a dime a dozen any more. We know that Malia Obama is going to Harvard and I think that’s a bit more newsworthy than the Gosselin twins. My guess is that this is all TFW because you know if people found out where they’re going to school there would be mass hysteria around campus.....or she’s holding out for the highest bidder on the “first look” pictures. NO.ONE.CARES. They’ll just be a couple more freshmen on campus in a sea of freshmen which I’m sure will suit Cara just fine. Mady May be another story because she seems to like the limelight.
I went to school with Kris Kristopherson’s son, a former actor who was in a Tom Cruise movie, and Danielle Steele’s daughter. The extent of people caring when they heard about this was basically, “cool, and hey do you have the notes from torts yesterday?”
Nobody is going to care and she’s doing these kids a disservice to make them think they will.
Admin (#113), and if TFW had the slightest bit of media savvy, she would've let Jon come to the graduation. Can you imagine how much publicity she would've gotten if she'd posted a picture of the twins with BOTH parents flanking them? And in turn, that publicity would've led to more viewers for her dating show.
But Schmoopy would rather just maintain her blinding hatred for her ex, and keep buying bots. Mkay.
I bet the school will be ever so grateful when they no longer have to deal with Katie. Four more years unless she takes the remaining 6 out and puts them in a public school or a less expensive one. How mean that the twins are not in the graduation group class picture. Even the rich and famous don't act like that. Sad really.
I think Kate said something about how she is the only one who can make money off her kids. The graduation photo without the twins is a reflection of this.
Andrea
Kate has made those kids (especially the twins) believe they are something they are not...celebrities deserving special treatment. How empty are they going to feel when they finally understand they are only known because of their brothers and sisters. They have no talent or "star" power. If they did, there would have never been a need for Kate to have more children in the first place. I feel sorry for them because they don't seem to understand they were just along for the ride. I get the impression the tups are embarrassed by all of them.
Mom2two...Gia is going to Rutgers. I read an article awhile ago which stated she was going to Penn State but either she or her mom, or both, I can’t remember, posted a picture of her on Instagram recently decked out in Rutgers gear stating that’s where she decided to go.
Admin...did something happen with Sea Gordon’s Instagram? When I go on it it says the page has either been removed or is broken.
Formerly Duped...love the puppy photos of Abigail. She is a cute dog but dang she was adorable as a puppy.
Cape it’s still there, sorry about that I changed his Instagram. I’ve been meaning to post a permanent link here. @sea.gordon is his Instagram now 😂
Love the title!
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2019/05/kate-gosselin-poses-with-the-only-kids-who-seem-to-love-her/amp/
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Thanks! Abigail looks very different now than when she was a puppy...she has a lot more scruffy hair and her colors have changed. Same anxious little girl though!
I can guarantee you--Mady thinks she's the cat's pajamas (tribute to my grandmother there!) and possibly Cara too. They have always been singled out for special treatment, to the point that they probably expect it by now. Way back when they were 6 or 7 they got special bagels, and the tups didn't get any. Why not? They're bagels, for heaven's sake! I remember Alexis crying that she wanted a bagel and being sent to the corner. They were the ones Kate would invite into her room to hang out at night They got the special (and hugely expensive) boutique shopping day in the episode I saw. The tups will be going into 9th grade this fall (no more uniforms), so they should all get to go spend thousands apiece on clothes for school--right? It's only fair.
While Mady has always been more outwardly nasty, Cara has made some really awful comments too. I remember reading that when asked what her favorite thing about the Halloween party was, she said it was the bonfire "after all the dumb little kids left".
The graduation picture is just ridiculous. Kate sold graduation pictures to all the media outlets, so what's the big deal? Unless she was afraid that someone would sell the school picture and she'd lose money. That's probably it.
Kate probably got the picture with the twins in it, and the other parents got the pictures without the twins in it. Kate doesn't want the other parents selling her children to tabloids. She's only allowed to do that.
As for the six's schooling, Hannah was going to public school, and I don't know where Collin went. I assume it's just Leah, Alexis, Joel and Aaden that are still in the private school.
Hi Everyone. I haven't posted in a while but just have to say I think not inviting Jon to the twins graduation was so incredibly cruel. That is a life long hurt for him to not be there to see his daughters graduate.
Mady and Cara need to get away from their nasty mother. She has poisoned them against their father and basically Mady is a younger version of her mother and needs a serious reality check. They are not special, any more than any other regular kid. Sorry for the rant but that just made me so mad and hurt for Jon.
I actually think it was just as much the twins' behavior as Kate's that drove Hannah away. I don't think she gave them the respect they thought they were entitled to. Hopefully once the twins are out, the remaining four will find the courage to stand up for themselves.
No one on campus is going to care about them. I teach on a major campus. I’ve taught the grandson of a president, one of the richest kids in my state, Olympic gold medalists, star football players, etc. I don’t know who they are most of the time, and none of the kids in their classes care at all. I’m once asked a student who held the world record in his sport if he was any good at it because I honestly had no clue if he was a benchwarmer or a star. If they go to a campus and pull diva stuff, it will be only to their detriment.
Mady and Cara need to get away from their nasty mother. She has poisoned them against their father and basically Mady is a younger version of her mother and needs a serious reality check. They are not special, any more than any other regular kid. Sorry for the rant but that just made me so mad and hurt for Jon.
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I've been wondering to myself how much kids their age are even much aware of this show or who they are. It was kids their age who were watching the show when it was on. Years ago! Those kids are now in their late 20's and 30's. Kids their own age were like 7 when the show was in its heyday. Who much remembers what they watched when they were seven, if they even watched this at all?
And by the way just to give a little perspective, I was less than a year out of college when this show was on. I remember tuning in as I was gathering applications for jobs to mail out. So I was basically a college kid watching (and initially liking) the show.
I'm willing to bet the majority of people who would have any interest in these girls are at least 25 years old now and much older. Not CURRENT college kids.
Kate probably got the picture with the twins in it, and the other parents got the pictures without the twins in it. Kate doesn't want the other parents selling her children to tabloids. She's only allowed to do that.
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I'd bet the farm in a million years nobody at that school would ever do that. But then Kate is a narcissist.
Yes, we've seen Cara's temper. She often got angry at TFW such when as playing the smash the pumpkin game, when her mother tried to hug her, sulking when at a store buying the tups' clearance birthday clothes, yelling at Mady over musical instruments, RV episode..Jon and Kate said in an early episode she keeps her feelings pent up then they explode.I recall a few tiffs with Mady such as over birthday gifts, who was born first etc.
Mom2two here. Sorry about mixup
With Gia. Cara listed where she is going on her “private” instagram. It says Fordham ‘23. So the People article must be out (have not has time to look)
I ran into this 5 year old article from when the twins, Kate, and Skeeve went to the Demi Levato concert.
“The reality TV star attended the gig at the Patriot Center in Fairfax, Virginia earlier this month with twins Mady and Cara, 13 and fellow concertgoers have alleged they noticed her and Steve, who has also denied a romantic relationship with Kate, holding hands.”
A source told RadarOnline: 'The biggest surprise of all was who she was holding hands with. She was holding hands with Steve Neild, her bodyguard.'They are most definitely a couple and were NOT trying to hide it. We were surprised considering we kept up with all the Jon & Kate Plus 8 drama.”
I don’t know how Gina has dealt with these rumors all these years. Unless they are in an open marriage.
2) Radar reports the insider said: 'We were at the Demi Lovato concert on Sunday night and had just entered the building and were browsing the merchandise table. I turned and saw a girl who looked familiar but turned away and didn't think much of it.Next thing you know we heard someone yelling, "You both need to come back here now! Get over here and stay together! Where are you guys going?!"'I turned around and lo and behold, it was Kate Gosselin b****ing out the twins. The girls seemed embarrassed and their faces were pleading, "Please don’t know my mother." They looked deflated. Myself and two friends were shocked and appalled.'
Another thing I don’t get is how Kate has always embarrassed the twins. We have seen their rude behavior towards her and their eye rolls, yet there always has been a loyalty towards their mother and they usually defend her. It’s a love hate relationship. Kate is using the twins again for this dating show, yet they seem to go along with whatever she wants for the most part. But they clearly detest her. I don’t get it.
While Kate, the twins and Neild sat with everyone else, they allegedly did get some special treatment.
The source said: 'We decided to go to our seats and as we turned around we saw the twins, Neild and Kate walk to the side and bypass the entire merchandise line to be served.'
This is just another example of the special treatment that they have always gotten. And I’m afraid that this special treatment won’t last forever. Their star power is fading but they’ve grown accustomed to this. Eventually reality will hit and it will be a shock. This is where Kate is failing them
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I know Fordham. Excellent school, unbelievably expensive. But she'll be in NYC, where I think a kid like her could blend into the crowd and have a pretty anonymous life. I think she'll thrive, and a much better choice than that lemon of a school down south.
Although, they don't have an NCAA lacrosse team. Just club lacrosse, which is just glorified pick up games. She may not even be that into lacrosse anymore, who knows.
Good for Cara, Fordham is a great school. Hopefully she has enough money set aside so that she won’t graduate with a lot of debt. Going to school in NYC is a great experience - I know from experience. I hope that she makes the most of it. I wonder where Mady is going.
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It also leaves her readily accessible to Mommy Dearest should the urge strike to be followed around by a TV camera crew. Fordham is a great school (brother went there), but I sort of wish she had gone a bit further away. And I sincerely hope her sister has chosen somewhere else.
According to their website, average cost of Fordham before aid, $69,708. That covers tuition, r&b, books etc.
Fordham is very expensive. My cousin attended law school there. An undergrad will pay around $75,000 for tuition board and other fees. Then add in books, personal expenses etc. and you are looking at $85,000 plus. Maybe she is giving the college fund to her BFFs C & M and the younger kids who made that family rich will need to go to State schools or trade schools. Nothing wrong with either, just saying the twins get priority on everything it seems.
I'm a Fordham grad - wow. As surprised as I am that Cara chose Fordham (for some reason I was expecting a southern school), I'd say she'd fit in pretty well there in its current form (more 'high end' students compared to when I was there).
Did a little research on Fordham. It’s admission rate is 46% with students scoring a 29 on the ACT. The tuition is $49,000 with room and board $20,000. Do you suppose Kate did an ‘Aunt Becky’ and that is how Cara got in?
I wonder if Kate will have to give H and C a refund since they go to public school? She has spent a fortune sending the others to a private school...not criticizing her for that, education is important. But I hope H and C's money isn't paying for their siblings' pricey private school while they attend "regular" school.
I wonder if the NC school was one that Mady was interested in attending. She has said she's not a serious student like Cara. It was private and expensive, too, although I don't think it was as expensive as Fordham. College is not an easy financial burden to bear, even with scholarships or loans. Tuition, room, board, books, fees, allowances. We ended up tripling our kids' allowances when they went off to college. The twins will want to do things with friends, go out to eat, buy snacks, decorate their rooms, buy clothes and school logo stuff, go to Starbucks, etc, and no kid wants to be the one to say, "Sorry, I can't go, I don't have any money". M&C won't stand for that. Cara will be surrounded by very wealthy students, and most likely Mady will too. Of course, Kate can try to use that as an excuse to get them to film during the summers--"I can't pay for your college if you don't film with me!". But like I have said before--you can never be too prepared!
I wonder if there is a small degree of trepidation in TFW about Cara leaving the compound. Remember, Mommie Dearest is in charge and that's never gonna change. Mady seems like she's imbibed enough Kool-Aid to stay loyal at least through the 4 years of college. But I don't know if TFW can be as confident about Cara. The Freshman 15 may be the least of her mother's concerns.
It's hard to believe even the wisest of investments would be able to pay for Fordham. And if it somehow is, does that mean each of the other 7 kids will have an account they can draw for to pay for a school that's going to be more than 200k when all is said and done? That's a lot of dough.
I think this university is great, quite possibly the best decision Cara ever made, but I really hope the adults did right by these kids and there's enough to pay for it all. Cara lived her childhood under the cameras, she doesn't need to live her adulthood under Sallie Mae.
They may not need it, but if there's really $3-400K socked away for EACH kid, then kudos to Kate/Jon. Somehow I doubt it, but IF she and Jon really did put into "trust" as much as they said they did, at the height of their fame/implosion, then I guess it's possible. We'll never know whether these kids have to take out loans or have won scholarships to mitigate these huge expenses. Unless, of course, they tell us.
It does seem unlikely, though, what with the ongoing private-school expenses plus the household expenses, and factoring in almost 3 years with NO filming from 2011 to 2014 and then again from 2017 until quite recently (with a much-reduced cast), that there is that much available, especially considering Kate is likely to be "retiring" sooner than later.
Any news on the status of that child support case for $130K (est.) she filed against Jon a while back? :) Perhaps this is part of her retirement strategy?
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Any news on the status of that child support case for $130K (est.) she filed against Jon a while back? :) Perhaps this is part of her retirement strategy?
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I've been wondering about that too. When I read the blind item that mentioned using a bribe to be able to continue to film her children (presumably this was Kate), I immediately thought she might have filed that bogus CS claim as leverage against Jon. He wouldn't sign for the kids to film, so she filed and then tried to basically blackmail him into signing for the kids to film. "Sign the papers or I'll take you to court for $130K, which I know you can't pay. Even if the court sides with you, it will cost you a fortune to fight this". Last we heard, Jon was fighting back. It's funny how Kate always seems shocked that Jon would fight back--she's filed bogus lawsuits against him before, and dropped the charges immediately when things get rough. She should expect it by now, but she is such a bully--she' just can't help herself. The need to bully someone is just too strong. Then, in true coward/bully fashion, she runs away the moment her victim stands up to her.
And if the schools were revealed you'd move into judgment mode just as you did when they visited some college and people here tore it to shreds. The pattern of behavior on this blog is the opposite of not caring.
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Incorrect. Everyone here has been praising the merits of Fordham, and a regular poster here and a poster's borther are even alums. As much as your lot has tried to peddle that "you all just want to hate" mantra, it simply isn't true. When Cara was looking at a terrible school, we said it was terrible. Now that she's settled on a great school, we've called it what it is, great. Heck, perhaps someone in her real life said to her that's a terrible school don't go there, and she ended up at Fordham instead. Somewhere in her journey she was either given good advice or she came to the conclusion herself in her research. Either way, everyone here has said GOOD.
People are at most mentioning the outrageous cost, which is a fact, not a criticism. It doesn't make it a bad school.
I’ve discovered that Mady is following Syracuse University on her private insta. So I wonder if that is where she will attend.
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I’ve discovered that Mady is following Syracuse University on her private insta. So I wonder if that is where she will attend.
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Interesting. Another excellent school. I imagine she's either considering them or perhaps going there. It's rigorous. I got accepted there and was thrilled and honored, and I vividly remember visiting it. It was an extremely close call for me, but I ended up going to Penn State, which was arguably equally as good but much, much cheaper. At the time it was going to run me 30k a year without scholarships if I went to Syracuse, which sounds cheap now! It must be near double that now.
No troll, we don't blindly knock all schools. Fordham and Syracuse are two incredible schools I think they would both thrive at.
However if Mady thinks Syracuse would be a quick hop skip and a jump from NYC....not so much.
Syracuse is a good school for communications if that’s what Mady is interested in. It’s also got a good photography program and we know that Kate is always giving her picture credit. On her private IG she’s got 🍊 🍊 🍊 under her name so that’s a pretty good indication that she’s going to Syracuse without coming out and naming the school. Good for Mady.
On her private IG she’s got 🍊 🍊 🍊 under her name so that’s a pretty good indication that she’s going to Syracuse without coming out and naming the school. Good for Mady.
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UH HUH. Syracuse.
Great job, Mady. Congrats. Gosh darn good school. They will expect top notch academics, so hunker down and study.
Thank goodness they weren't taken in by that near unaccredited mess down south.
I guess my question remains even if they saved every dime from this show, which we know they couldn't based on what we know Kate has spent it on between the house and private schools....HOW would schools of this expense be paid for for eight kids? Even with the best of trusts, they're not children of Fortune 500 CEO's. They're small time reality stars who haven't been on TV in two straight years. One of the greatest mysteries of this whole saga is how Kate isn't bankrupt by now.
Admin- I think it’s quite possible that is where she will attend.She isn’t following Fordham or the NC school. Who knows. It fits in with the same private research university mold as Cara’s school. The fees run approximately 69,000 a year including room and board. Both school are academically rigorous. So I don’t think these girls will have a lot of time to film, or they will risk falling behind
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Well, she's got Alexis in a photo. Guess she's not barred from posting pix of the tups. Some bird chat ensued.
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Awww besties! Is today Zorro’s hatch day? Six is still relatively young in bird years.🦜
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@bonniehaeberle No. He turned 6 on May 26, actually. He is still young lol. My kids kids will meet him..... say, what??!
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It’s been along time since a Zorro post. Good to see Alexis and Zorro. How long do those live? So I’m not a bird person so don’t know much about them at all.
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@mydmaxx2581 30+ years?! So he’s still a young guy! Question is: when Alexis goes to college, seriously, I don’t know what I’ll do! He calls her name ALL day long when she’s at school and once she walks through the door, he’s frantic for her to hold him! He refuses to allow anyone else to get him out tho— occasionally he lets Joel or Aaden get him, but no one else!!! He lets me hold him only if Alexis brings him TO me. A fickle little guy.... but I love him so much!
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Are the kids (and Mom) ready for summer break? 😁☀️
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@mydmaxx2581 one million percent, YES!
Syracuse is my hometown and my husband graduated from there. Hmmm : )
Hats off to Mady and Cara for getting into solid universities. Their mother has consistently referred to school as some kind of inconvenience at best, or a boring downer at worst. But luckily it looks like the girls must not have adopted her disinterest in higher education.
Nope, not incorrect. You are still judging...just in this case you have approved of her choice. That is a judgment. (I'm sure Cara is overjoyed to have your seal of approval.) And it again shows the opposite of "not caring" which was what the OP claimed.
Not to mention the absolute hypocrisy of going on and on about privacy and then posting information that Cara has not chosen to reveal publicly.
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Don't change the subject. Your original contention was not that people are being judgmental. Your original contention was that no matter what school she went to we wouldn't like it. That's simply not the case. You just don't want to admit you're wrong about us, that in fact they are going to two schools the posters here quite like and many have personal experience with, including me, who got accepted into one of them, likely by the skin of my teeth. Your original premise is we give the girls a hard time. It's not true.
I feel no need to protect such information of two adults when both of them are flashing big hints about where they are going on social media. If they wanted to keep it a secret, they might not want to post oranges on their social media account. Are you from NY? Anyone who grew up in NY as I did knows exactly what that can only mean. It'll come out anyway, as it's impossible to keep your name off college web sites whether it's for awards, articles, sports, or photos, your name will show up on google eventually.
And yes both schools are rigorous. There will be homework to do constantly, even over holidays. You will be expected to find internships over the summers and work full time. Filming is not only difficult but unwise. I found the demand of my academically rigorous college were just as difficult as subsequently going to law school, at times more!
@mydmaxx2581 30+ years?! So he’s still a young guy! Question is: when Alexis goes to college, seriously, I don’t know what I’ll do! He calls her name ALL day long when she’s at school and once she walks through the door, he’s frantic for her to hold him! He refuses to allow anyone else to get him out tho— occasionally he lets Joel or Aaden get him, but no one else!!! He lets me hold him only if Alexis brings him TO me. A fickle little guy.... but I love him so much!
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This is the most interesting little story she's told in like three years.
June 10 People magazine, Just read it today. Alex Trebek on the cover. No mention of TFMJG or any progeny in the print edition.
Virginia connection with Fordham University: Fordham is in the Atlantic 10 or A10 athletic conference, along with Virginia Commonwealth University! Go Rams! Fordham and VCU are both nicknamed Rams. please note that VCUs "Rodney Ram" is much more muscular than the Fordham Ram.
Syracuse is in the Atlantic Coast Conference, ACC. University of Virginia and VPI Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University and the Carolina schools Duke, NC State, UNC, and Wake Forest. ACC Basketball is the best and most exciting!
Hats off to Mady and Cara for getting into solid universities. Their mother has consistently referred to school as some kind of inconvenience at best, or a boring downer at worst.
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I think this is a good sign that Kate may not really have much of an influence on them. She has never presented as someone with a natural curiosity about the world, drive, work ethic, wit, social skills, ambition, or any other trait that is well suited to a successful four year term at university. But, I'll tell you, lots of kids end up at good schools who have parents who were for various reasons unable or unwilling to be of much support in this endeavor. Or maybe just aren't able to understand or relate to it, but their kids can and do thrive.
I’m actually glad (hopeful) they seem to be going to different schools. It will give them the opportunity to be themselves on their own terms. They will have very different experiences and that will likely be a good thing. Both are solid schools and will give them great educations if they want them.
I think it's excellent they're going to different schools too. It seems to me every child in that family need to be out of the environment and "pack" in order to really find their true identities. I think these girls are going to find college a shock, but they will adjust. It will be interesting to see the thoughts and opinions that develop in the twins away from each other, and Kate, for the very first time.
Funny I would have excepted Mady to go more to a bustling place in NYC where she can do a lot of the cultural things the city has to offer, and the more studious, quieter Cara to hunker down in a stone-swept tundra up in Syracuse. But I think this is everything they both need.
Syracuse is a great place for Mady to be surrounded by salt of the earth folks. It's authentic, and full of blue collar kids from around NY and the country, despite being so expensive. They have scholarships, grants and loans and so kids make it work. I just knew I would make a million friends if I went there, and I was sad when I passed on their offer. Funny this news is bringing up my own what if's. What if I had gone to SU?
We haven't really discussed it here, but the college admissions scandal sure is juicy. I read most of the indictment, and I would say Lori Laughen is guilty by emoji. She sure posted a lot of positive emojis in support of all the illegal shit going down.
I wonder if Mady and Cara chose to go to New York for college to get away from their mother. Their schools are far enough away that they can't be expected to come home on the weekends. Probably just school breaks. They would probably rather meet up in NYC and explore instead of going home to Wernersville when they have a weekend free, anyway. And yes, summer internships are huge now. They will need to do as many of those as possible if they want to get jobs after college. All of my sons have had to work internships in order to be marketable, and it's expected that college grads will have a few to put on their resumes these days. If Kate thinks they'll be hanging out at home and filming with her during the summer, she'll have to think again. The time has come for them to become more independent.
I have a friend whose daughter is at Syracuse studying architecture. She loves it there. Mady made a good choice. I think it's good that the twins are going to different school so they can be more independent of one other. Their school are close enough to visit occasionally, but far enough apart to have their own lives.
I'm also baffled about Kate's finances. The twins may have some scholarships, but I doubt they are getting a free ride. Kate's most profitable year was apparently 2008, and even then she and Jon made less than $2M. She's had an expensive divorce, lots of legal costs, a money suck of a house to maintain, 6-8 kids in private school, and about 5 years of unemployment since then. She hasn't made enough to cover all their expenses plus the kids' schooling even during the years she has been filming. Something just doesn't add up.
Without even checking google I would ballpark Syracuse at a good 5-6 hours from home. That is plenty far enough away to not even bother most weekends, and they shouldn't. Good choice.
I'm also baffled about Kate's finances. The twins may have some scholarships, but I doubt they are getting a free ride. Kate's most profitable year was apparently 2008, and even then she and Jon made less than $2M. She's had an expensive divorce, lots of legal costs, a money suck of a house to maintain, 6-8 kids in private school, and about 5 years of unemployment since then. She hasn't made enough to cover all their expenses plus the kids' schooling even during the years she has been filming. Something just doesn't add up.
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Are we missing a stream of income here? Did Steve have her invest early in GoPro and the finances took off? She HAS to have some other stream of dependable income (a stream Jon doesn't have access to, apparently) or she wouldn't be able to so calmly maintain this high end lifestyle and funnel the twins to the most expensive schools in NY state.
Nobody makes this much money at reality shows or everybody would do it forever. Unless you're the Kardashians, who truly made a brand out of it, there isn't spectacular money in this line of entertainment and I can guarantee there was not spectacular money in a reality show on TLC from 2009. At best it should have been good for a couple years and that's about it.
Maybe you’d better take another look at SU. Google Unigo Syracuse university to see what the students have to say.
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I don't need Google. I know what's there. I've spent nearly a week there (for a high school conference, visiting friends, etc), know maybe 20 people who went there or are going there or work there, and was good friends with one of the former football coaches. My aunt went there, close church friends went there, and maybe 5 kids from my high school class went there. All did great, none of us had a lick of money.
You will find kids you don't like at every and any school. Overall, Mady will find good decent kids at that school in abundance. Upstate NY is a wonderful place.
Also, my high school close, sweet friend was a starting player for football there. Four years, then a job.....such a great, smart, kind kid.
Layla (#164), another potential fly in the ointment for Mommie Dearest will be if the twins get involved in romantic relationships that start taking up their precious little free time. Suddenly spending weekends in PA on the interview couch with their crew daddies will lose its luster.
Oh, that savvy TFW...chitchatting about her bird a week before her return to TV. She sure knows how to stir up interest. Zzzzz...
Half-hearted Insta chatting isn't much of an improvement publicity wise from that chick with the Walmart parking lot sign all those years ago. She's her own worst enemy.
When the tups were born they were given free college tuition as I recall (I thought it was for Pa colleges...don't know details) but if the tups are set for college maybe the twins can use all the money set aside in trust from the show for their college.
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With only 4 kids left at home, I'm so curious who TFW is grooming to be her protector/confidante/workhorse.
TFW has not done them any favors by telling them they deserve everything on a golden platter. She was able to control things up until now (two senior group pictures) but she’s about to lose that control. I think the girls will be in for a big dose of reality as they will no longer be the big fish in a small pond. Welcome to the real world.
When the tups were born they were given free college tuition as I recall (I thought it was for Pa colleges...don't know details) but if the tups are set for college maybe the twins can use all the money set aside in trust from the show for their college.
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A college fund was set up but it did not guarantee them free college tuition. It was so people could donate money for their college expenses.
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I remembered incorrectly.The Tuition Assistance Program was set up by the Lt Governor of Pa. for ALL 8 Gosselin children. I remember hearing Jon say their college was already paid for (so the amount must be quite substantial). Donations for the 8 children were sent to Gosselin TAP account in Harrisburg. So it sounds like Kate isn't parting with her money from the show to pay for the twins' college.
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I remembered incorrectly.The Tuition Assistance Program was set up by the Lt Governor of Pa. for ALL 8 Gosselin children. I remember hearing Jon say their college was already paid for (so the amount must be quite substantial). Donations for the 8 children were sent to Gosselin TAP account in Harrisburg. So it sounds like Kate isn't parting with her money from the show to pay for the twins' college.
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I thought that the fund that was set up by the alt Governor was for the tups only and it was for them attending a state school in PA. I thought that’s why both Jon and TFW said college was paid for. I’m sure that money has been put aside for each but if they all chose expensive private colleges that’s got to be some major bucks.
I remember the TAP fund was set up for the tups to go to a state school in PA only. The funds were started with $3,000 each and the citizens of PA and others were asked to donate to these funds. I doubt a lot of people donated to this.
This woman takes the worst photos EVER. Every single one of them is so offsetting, so ugly!
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What will Kate do if the twins start dating and they don't want it filmed? That's probably her worst nightmare right now.
I remember when I went off to college, the girls who were the most sheltered/controlled prior to college were the ones who rebelled the most. They went wild. They didn't know how to handle all that freedom. Not saying that will happen to the twins, but I saw it happen way too many times. My sons have talked about it too--that the kids who were smothered growing up don't seem to understand where the boundaries lie.
I used to be into all the Gosselin drama but took a break for a few years. I see they are putting her new show, in between the two 90 day fiance shows that are very popular. It is going to be the new 90 day the other way, then Kate, then 90 day pillow talk. This has to be the best possible time slot they could give any show. Do they really want it to succeed that much? I know loyal 90 day fans are not going to appreciate Kate popping up in the middle of the 3 hours of programming.
IIRC, there were TAP funds set up for the kids but not funded. People could make donations if they wanted to. Both Jon and Kate have said they set up college funds for the kids, and they wouldn't have to do that if the TAP accounts were fully funded for college. I'm guessing the trust funds are their college funds, and I assume their private school tuition comes out of that too. Kate doesn't make enough from filming to pay their living expenses and private school.
As far as wealthy/blue collar students, any school is going to have a mix of both. I have helped my boys move in at the beginning of the school year and seen students lugging Louis Vuitton duffle bags into their rooms. Many of the kids drive Range Rovers, Mercedes, BMWs. Cartier bracelets are a "thing". If M&C decide they want to hang with those kids, the price tag will be steep. Fortunately there are plenty of students from all socioeconomic backgrounds to hang with, but M&C seem to really like that golden platter lifestyle.
"Are we missing a stream of income here? Did Steve have her invest early in GoPro and the finances took off?"
His wife works for a financial group. I've always wondered if they helped Kate set up good investments. I googled Gina Nelid, and here's her work bio page: https://www.xmlfg-w.com/who-we-are/our-team/gina-neild
She had a heart attack but recovered.
I just read that Jazz Jennings is going to Harvard.
Is it known for certain that Kate is paying their college tuition without any scholarships or financial aid?
I can't fathom that, even if she made some good investments, considering her lavish lifestyle.
For those with strong stomachs, Jill Duggar Dillard has a new blog post about keeping your husband sexually satisfied. I wish I was joking.
Looks like someone's peanut butter and jellus of Jessa's attention now that she's had a girl, so she needed to up the ante. The only thing up for me is my lunch.
"Jill Duggar Dillard has a new blog post about keeping your husband sexually satisfied."
I saw that. I thought they were supposed to be so modest. Jill and her family are off the show so she's got to get attention somewhere.
I saw Jill's post too about keeping hubby happy and sexually satisfied. It seems she has perverted ideas like her brother. I guess nothing is sacred in that family.
Jill's mother has basically said the same thing. Her term for it is blissfully available. She blamed Anna for Josh cheating on her. She did this by releasing a blog soon after the scandal broke that said that husbands cheat on their wives because the wives are not blissfully available at all times.
Andrea
I can only speak about Syracuse but at least when I got in almost nobody actually paid the full sticker price. They threw scholarships at almost everyone just to get them in the door. I think they got my tuition down to about half, which was a start. But, I got some good advice that after year one they'll yank the scholarships and it's closer to full price, and even with half off, Penn State was still cheaper.
I hope the twins have a solid plan for how to pay for these schools for the full four years. It's way too much debt to be saddled with in your 20s.
Her term for it is blissfully available.
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Hm. I'll show her blissfully available when a cluster headache hits and blissfully punch her in the face.
I had to read the Jill's blog post and oy vey.
She's woefully ignorant about a healthy sex life. For starters, I really cannot believe she's telling couples how OFTEN to have sex. That's such a private and individual thing, and what's healthy and normal for some couples isn't for others. 3-4 times a week is insanely unrealistic for couples who work, have young children, and various other obligations. Good lord Jill, let us get some sleep some days of the week. For others, perhaps that's not nearly enough. She has no clue what she's talking about.
Also, ain't fasting for my husband. I'm not going to be exhausted from excessive sex AND hungry.
Some of the other of it is actually good advice. She actually has some wise thoughts about listening to your partner. "Try to get at least 15-20 min. of uninterrupted time to talk every day! (Time to talk is important!) When he is talking, be quiet and listen, don’t interrupt and draw conclusions or offer advice right away." I think she's right that people jump in too quickly into solve mode and don't just thoroughly hear the person out first. Often, they just want to air things out, and aren't looking for solutions from you.
And this is good "Ask God to give you ideas of how you can surprise your husband or do things that will mean a lot to him" except is it okay I ask Google instead?
Admin (192)
My friend's daughter who is at Syracuse has a very hefty scholarship, but she has to maintain a very high GPA and resubmit her family's financials every year to keep it. Many students go a little wild their first years in college and their GPAs slip. and they end up losing scholarships. It takes real dedication to keep up the GPA, especially since the classes are very challenging. Fortunately she's incredibly focused and has her priorities straight.
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My friend's daughter who is at Syracuse has a very hefty scholarship, but she has to maintain a very high GPA and resubmit her family's financials every year to keep it.
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I went through this with myself and my friends and I'm really torn about it in hindsight. Like many students, I didn't pick the easiest major in college and I didn't do the bare minimum credits every semester. I pushed myself at times, and challenged myself, and took on some harder classes with more demanding professors because that's what was best for me and my education. Problem with that though, is the scholarships. You challenge yourself with a couple upper level courses and if anything goes wrong, that scholarship is sunk. It's like you get punished for doing right by your own education, punished for making the most of it. The price of college and how the aid all works is an interesting topic that has never bored me even after being out of school for years.
I thought Jill's post was very sexist and one-sided. She did say to leave an abusive relationship, though. I agree that this is a private matter, not fodder for a blog post. The blissfully available made me laugh.I would have hated to read what Kate had to say on the subject!
From Dmasy.
ROL has two articles today that employ the use of the phrase "monster mom". First one is Casey Anthony and the second one is Kate Gosselin.
She should be so proud.
Dmasy (#198), always nice to see you posting.
That's a pretty scathing Radar piece, with a named TLC source and everything. Too bad no one cares enough to let her "set the record straight" anymore. And with only 4 kids left at home, her frazzled single mom brand is getting less legit by the day. Poor brand-less Schmoopy.
Admin, no pressure, but I hope you're keeping in tip-top mental and physical shape to deliver us a recap of the dating show. A grateful public awaits your brilliance...
I thought Jill's post was very sexist and one-sided.
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It’s clear she still sees her role in the marriage is to serve her man and his needs not just physically but everything. I wish there was something in there about how a woman can identify and communicate HER needs in the relationship.
Admin (#200), I guess it's lucky Jill's sons probably won't be going to public school. Because at some point some kid is gonna Google Mommy, and tell everyone about what she and Daddy were doing while they were watching Paw Patrol. Is nothing sacred? Does privacy no longer exist? I don't believe for a second this was written to be of service to other couples. Now that she's no longer on the show (thanks to the homophobic nitwit she's servicing 4 times a week), Jill has had to find new and improved ways to get clicks.
Speaking of which...will Jill now transition from hawking tops from her cousin Amy's boutique to promoting lotions for sexy time? Stay tuned!
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