I watched the interview and I think he did very well. He did not bash Kate, just simply stated what the state of their relationship is today. He did confirm what a lot of us have surmised for a long time and that is that Kate is so angry at him because he stopped filming and she just can't get over it. I have always felt that to be true. All in all he did a good job explaining how TLC and Kate worked together to bring him to his knees.
It looks like Dr. Drew is going to be on the show too. You know, the Dr. pat-poor-teary-eyed-Katie-on-the-hand-and-give-her-a-Keurig Drew. Yeah, that guy.
I wonder if he and Jon chatted about the ex-wife from hell in the Green Room.
Thanks for Jon's opportunity to open the curtain to how TLC managed the divorce. This blog nailed it long ago, but others out there in the general public may never have thought of it. I'm very proud of how Jon kept it to TLC, his own decisions and his own facts. In that clip I heard nothing about Kate being a hateful, duplicious, or otherwise difficult person. He kicked TLC under the bus, not Kate. I hope he does as well during the rest of the interview.
Terri said... 2 I watched the interview and I think he did very well. He did not bash Kate, just simply stated what the state of their relationship is today. He did confirm what a lot of us have surmised for a long time and that is that Kate is so angry at him because he stopped filming and she just can't get over it. I have always felt that to be true. All in all he did a good job explaining how TLC and Kate worked together to bring him to his knees. January 25, 2016 at 7:21 AM ******* Kate knows her numbers will never be as big as when Jon was on the show. I can believe she will hold that against Jon forever. I hope Jon can soon tell his own side of the story in its entirety.
He kicked TLC under the bus, not Kate. ******* Yes, very good distinction between that, and how Kate nails Jon at every turn. Oh, sure, it's always obliquely and thinly-veiled, but she throws Jon under the bus all the time.
It's important for fans and people in general (who have followed the saga and media crucifixion of Jon) to understand that while Kate whined about how much money was spent on the divorce, she wasn't paying. TLC was. TLC also mounted a smear campaign as they positioned Kate to be the poor, cheated-upon wife, left with 8 kids to raise all on her own.
So far I have only seen the promo of this interview but it reinforces what has been said here for years - TFW hates her ex more than she loves their children. If she truly loved them she would put aside her anger and foster a loving relationship with their father and everyone would benefit.
@Tucker's mom the show had 10 million when jon was on,so when it became kate plus 8 it was 2 million and now its down to 1 million and heck even some didn't even reach a million.It just goes 2 show how far the show gone down when 9 million tune out.
I would like to see the whole story come out, either in a main stream magazine or TV show, about how TLC and Kate worked to destroy Jon. Of course, Jon was in breach of contract, so TLC could legally go after him. I think TLC wanted to use Jon as an example as to what they would do to their "talent" if they decided they no longer wanted to film. Kate got a golden deal with TLC paying her legal expenses. Now the question is why is there still a custody battle going on? Is TLC involved because they want to continue the filming (and Kate) and they are financing her attorneys still?
I truly believe that the big reason Kate is trying to keep as many of the kids away from Jon as possible is that there is strength in numbers. Think about it. If ALL the kids visited with Jon on a regular basis there is a good chance that a whole lot of Kate's secrets and what goes on in that house would come to light. I also think that Mady holds the key to this entire saga being exposed for the dysfunctional mess that it is, and I think Kate knows it! Why else would a woman who is so very controlling and wants everything done to her expectations allow this one child to walk all over her like Mady does. The next few years are going to be very interesting indeed.
As far as conspiracy theories, I've always thought that initial pap photo of Jon in the car with the school teacher was a set up because at that point Jon and Kate knew the divorce was going to happen and he's given notice to TLC. He started going out ( a mistake) but it played right into their hands. Jon has always sworn he never cheated on Kate. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it's a shame he acted out so poorly during that time. He was an easy target.
Jamesvader1194 said... 9 @Tucker's mom the show had 10 million when jon was on,so when it became kate plus 8 it was 2 million and now its down to 1 million and heck even some didn't even reach a million.It just goes 2 show how far the show gone down when 9 million tune out.
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It looks like Dr. Drew is going to be on the show too. You know, the Dr. pat-poor-teary-eyed-Katie-on-the-hand-and-give-her-a-Keurig Drew. Yeah, that guy.
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Yes, although a couple years ago Dr. Drew produced a widely regarded documentary about how good parents get screwed in the family law courts all the time in the U.S. Shockingly, he concluded whoever has the most money wins.
Jon has always sworn he never cheated on Kate. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it's a shame he acted out so poorly during that time. He was an easy target. ****** Exactly. The big fucketydoo made about Jon cheating after Kate spent days and weeks traveling with Steve, leaving him with the kids back at home, just makes me laugh. Really? After years of Jon staying at home while Kate took off with Steve, it's a joke to call the cuckold a cheater.
I was watching about one minute of the View (rarely do) and they cut to commercial and the cameras scanned the audience. I swear I thought I saw Kate's crazy, celebrity worship buddy Brenda. Does anybody remember her twitter handle? I want to see if she twitter she was at the View today. Thanks!
Hello to everyone, I didn't think any of you would remember me.
Steve Harvey is on at 4pm here also, I DVR'd it too.
Why am I not surprised that Jon didn't badmouth Kate, he has more class than that. He also knows that the children may see the show. I'm sure they hear Kate throwing Jon under the bus all the time, albeit I do hope they're smart enough to know by now that everything Kate says is either a lie or completely over exaggerated.
Does anyone know if Jon is still writing the book he had mentioned last year?
As far as conspiracy theories, I've always thought that initial pap photo of Jon in the car with the school teacher was a set up because at that point Jon and Kate knew the divorce was going to happen and he's given notice to TLC
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It could have been her, I can't remember, but at least one of the girls Jon was "seen" with is a lesbian. They were just friends.
When the show had Jon on it, it consistently gave TLC it's highest ratings. The 10 million was just the separation announcement show. TLC obviously had a lot to lose if Jon walked. Now that all Kate brings in is one million, TLC reverted to these short seasons because she cannot carry a normal season of shows. Right now, with Kate being fairly quiet on Twitter, she is probably on pins and needles waiting to hear if there will be more upcoming seasons. Now would be the time because of the production calendar. If she goes on Twitter like she is high as a kite, she got renewed. I am pretty much betting it will happen unless her demands outweigh TLC's expenses.
Kate keeping some of the kids away is her way of giving Jon the finger and keeping him tangled with attorneys and their fees. She's about making trouble, revenge and estrangement.
@TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over.I remember she had 2 million a year or 2 ago and now its ratings are slightly worse then last years.So im going to guess and say just some specials and not a full show.
Shockingly, he concluded whoever has the most money wins.
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Admin @ 15 - and not surprisingly TLC has the most.
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It had to be TLC because it certainly wasn't Kate. The poor thing was broke. She even went on the Today show and told Meredith she was destitute. Couldn't pay the bills *sniff* Only had $1000 in her purse *dab* Couldn't provide for her family *waaah*.
Discovery (tlv's parent company) went after some of the Deadliest Catch "stars" with a vengeance when they no longer wanted to film.
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Oh yes. Discovery/TLC are brutal. Show up for work or we'll have your balls in a fishing net and your ass in court.
Funny how Kate always said that if one family member wanted to call the show quits, they would stop filming but their contract with TLC said something quite the opposite.
The moral of the story is hire a good lawyer to read you the small print before you sign on the dotted line. All Jon and Kate saw in the beginning were the dollar signs. And that's still all Kate sees to this day. The only truthful words she's ever uttered are 'the show is my life'.
Steve Harvey is on here at 4 p.m. CST and programmed to watch.
Maybe Jon will write a book about his experience being on reality tv and how a network (TLC) as someone posted brought him to his knees. If he did, could TLC sue him?
After the airing of the SH show, the ball is now in TFW's court. Will she still keep doing what she is doing? Will the court and judge get involved? Will the media go ape you know about it? Hope so.
If it is found out that C has been afraid to go and visit his dad because of his obligation to Shoka and the chickens not being cared for when he is gone, the judge needs to court order TFW to either hire someone to take care of them or get rid of them.
I wonder if Dr. Drew will be on the stage with Jon or will Dr. Drew come on later by himself and they talk about Jon's situation. Then later on Jon and Dr. Drew together.
I thought it was a win in Jon's favor for putting a picture of him, his gf and 4 or 5 of the kids. It shows that he doesn't have all 8 with him. Looked like they were at the beach.
Yes, did you ever notice when TFW would gripe about the cost of the divorce but ever notice she didn't say, I am paying for my share of the divorce. TLC is bankrolling it. Jon didn't have any money to fight.
Formerly Duped said... 25 Bluebird, I forgot about Jon's book! Wasn't it to be about parenting? Or his philosophy of life? I doubt it is forthcoming tbh.
Nice to see your posts!
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In the article about the chili cookoff, where the cookoff person is talking about how misunderstood Jon is, she said she met him through a friend who is collaborating with him on a book
"Time does vindicate the prophet" as my grandmother used to say. We have been saying for years that Jon has been punished over and over for saying, "I am done filming." We also remember when TFW was saying, "when one of us wants to stop filming, it stops." Liar, liar, to the core. How could anyone go up against TLC/TFW who wasn't already rich? Sad for Jon. I believe he was used from the beginning of their relationship. Very clear to see. Pieces are coming together. This interview will not sit well with TFW. Be "on guard", Jon.
" “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way. She has millions of dollars for doing nothing and for bad behavior. I'm not JELLUS I'm frustrated that someone like her can come out ahead (and act as if it is due to her "hard work". That pic of her lying in bed taking a pic of Shoka in her room at 7 pm says it all
I feel Jon got good timing since ever since the duggars got expose and TLC is planning more specials with them.I think more people have opened their eyes about what kind of company TLC is.However i've notice some hypocritical people who say that Jill and Jessa exploit their children whereas Kate does the show to provide for her kids.What gives?Why is it ok for Kate to exploit her kids but Jessa and Jill are doing the same thing she's doing but thats child exploitation?SMH
" “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
And this is where I have to wonder where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC? They had to know that the pull of the show was the "family" dynamic - not Kate and the kids. The fact that TLC had a BIG hand in the destruction of the relationship between Jon and his kids is beyond reprehensible.
I look forward to the day when this network is no longer...and based on the new shows that have coming along, it won't be long. This is a network that used to boast millions of viewers - when it actually WAS The Learning Channel. Now, it's all reality freak shows and idiots buying wedding dresses. The upcoming episode of "The Little Couple" is a freakin' doggy fashion show - seriously????
LaLaLandNoMore (#35), I remember Jon saying loud and clear that he wanted to go back to being Jon Gosselin. And TFW, as if trying to translating his words into her own language, said they needed to (pantomiming the action) "iron things out." I guess that annual family vote about filming she always talked about didn't include her husband's opinion.
Does anyone know if Jon is still writing the book he had mentioned last year? January 25, 2016 at 8:38 AM ***** The person who hooked Jon up with that Chili cook off said that he's working on his book.
Mrs Uggs is at the view today per her Twitter. Good eye!
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OMG that is sooo funny! She's a minicelebrity!
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I had to laugh when someone here commented about her always wanting hugs, and when I looked at her Twitter, yep, she wants hugs. Of course she tweeted Joy, Raven telling them that she will be there. She also put her buddy, Daymond, on notice that she is in NYC. Like anyone really cares. She is something else.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 22 Jan @billyeichner I am coming to NYC Monday to @TheView to see you !! I can't wait !! #youCrackMeUp #theGoodCrack #MyLaughDrug #wantAhugPlease$1
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 22 Jan @TheSharkDaymond I am coming to your beloved city. This Sunday / Monday !! #cantWait #lovenyc 1/24-1/25
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 5h @billyeichner I am here @TheView brrrr cold I need a hug! Please
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 5h @CedEntertainer you here ?? In #NYC ? I am here @TheView I hope to meet you !! #hugeFan
Rhymes with Witch said... 26 I think TLC wanted to use Jon as an example as to what they would do to their "talent" if they decided they no longer wanted to film. 10
Discovery (tlv's parent company) went after some of the Deadliest Catch "stars" with a vengeance when they no longer wanted to film. January 25, 2016 at 9:22 AM ***** In the Steve Harvey clip when Jon is talking about quitting TLC and reality tv, and how hard it is compared to putting in notice for a regular job, Harvey was giving Jon a huge knowing nod. As if to say, "Oh, yeah, I hear ya brother".
I would love for Jon's book to be in part, a take down of TLC and Discovery, and those entities of that ilk that will ruin your life if you dare try and void your contract to attempt to regain what's left of your "normal" life.
@TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over.I remember she had 2 million a year or 2 ago and now its ratings are slightly worse then last years.So im going to guess and say just some specials and not a full show.
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One can't even guess in something like this. Other shows may be cancelled and they need her for filler. Then again, they might now. TLC will do what TLC wants to do. We thought her show was cancelled way back when, but nope, there she was for more episodes and not just specials.
jamezvader1194 said... 27 @TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over. ***** For all the "twists and turns" Kate teased about for this season, on the Today Show, it was nothing but Ground Hog Day with a bit of churlish, snarky and nasty teenagers thrown in for color.
The money for Kate's divorce costs HAD to have gone through TLC's books, right? So how can they not report that to the IRS as "payment in kind" and Kate would have to pay taxes on it? Maybe they did and maybe she did.
I know in my little world, if we are given a car or some big gift that goes beyond ordinary salary and benefits, it gets reported as income, payment in kind. It is presumed the bonus gift was earned through our employment. The IRS hears about it because both the treaurer and we report it.
localyocul, the timestamp on TFW's picture said 5:51 pm. Was it actually 6:51 because she is EST?
I am CST and am I seeing it at 5:51 for that reason?
I want it to be 5:51 p.m. because that is an hour earlier and it makes you wonder when what time she actually got into the bed and who was watching the kids?
She must not be afraid of her comeuppance being involved in something causing her to be bedridden.
Well, I missed it this afternoon. I remembered to turn it on, and just as I did, the network broke away with a live broadcast on storm details from Philly. They resumed regular programming just as Steve was thanking Jon for being there. I'll have to check to see if it's on again.
I just watched Jon on SH. It's so sad that he's being kept in the dark about not seeing his son for a year and a half and he doesn't know why.
What kind of a mother, as if we don't know, shuts down all communication to the point where the father doesn't have contact with his own child? What the hell is the matter with her and is there NO lawyer out there who can penetrate that wall of silence for Jon?
Something more than just Kate's sausage cacciatore stinks at the Konpound.
"It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way. She has millions of dollars for doing nothing and for bad behavior. I'm not JELLUS I'm frustrated that someone like her can come out ahead (and act as if it is due to her "hard work". That pic of her lying in bed taking a pic of Shoka in her room at 7 pm says it all"
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I think what's worse is that it's not really nothing she's doing, she's in fact exploiting her children and selling their privacy for that money.
She had plenty of opportunities to establish herself as a marketable commodity (brand) on her own. The fact is she couldn't do it because she is so inauthentic, unlikable and frankly, too lazy to put the effort into learning any relevant skills.
The woman couldn't even manage to put together a half-decent cookbook. Instead she filled it with huge glossy photos of her kids. Again, selling them.
The Gosselin brand is the Gosselin kids. Once they are old enough to decide they are done she's toast and the chances of us being subjected to her fugly mug on our tvs diminishes greatly.
I'm with you local, frustration does not equate jealousy. You'd have to be mad to be jealous of that woman but it's pretty easy to be frustrated by the whole scenario.
local! Yes, like I really care about parking in Philly when I can't even get out from under the snow here (Thirteen roads still closed and the city remains under an emergency)! Steve is on here again at 3, unless the mayor grabs the station for another go-around on conditions in Philly.
I was thinking about the death total from the storm and it keeps getting higher. An eight-months pregnant teen died from shoveling, one man from using his snow blower and another who was driving a tractor and plowing, both of those from heart attacks. They are now saying that it will be another week until our streets are cleared.
redbird said... 51 localyocul, the timestamp on TFW's picture said 5:51 pm. Was it actually 6:51 because she is EST?
I am CST and am I seeing it at 5:51 for that reason?
I want it to be 5:51 p.m. because that is an hour earlier and it makes you wonder when what time she actually got into the bed and who was watching the kids?
She must not be afraid of her comeuppance being involved in something causing her to be bedridden.
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No, I double checked me time settings. Go into your Twitter settings and time should be GMT-6 for CST. Her tweet shows 7:51 pm
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
PA Dutch Mom said... 52 Well, I missed it this afternoon. I remembered to turn it on, and just as I did, the network broke away with a live broadcast on storm details from Philly. They resumed regular programming just as Steve was thanking Jon for being there. I'll have to check to see if it's on again.
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
I was just listing to a report on this, and the reason that they are being reported as such is because if there had been no storm, they wouldn't have been out shoveling. Therefore, it is a storm-related death. That makes sense to me.
After the airing of the SH show, the ball is now in TFW's court. Will she still keep doing what she is doing? ******** Of course, except maybe Deanna will weigh in on Jon's fathering.
The Court of Public Opinion said... 32 What happened to Kate's blog? It had a brief (but wordy) surge for the deck episode, and then collapsed into a coma again. January 25, 2016 at 10:08 AM ****** Kate fulfilled her quid pro quo and has gone back to ignoring the work that is keeping up a blog.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59 I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
I was reading an article yesterday about why people have heart attacks when shoveling snow. It said it's the exertion plus the cold, which makes the arteries constrict slowing blood flow, so I would certainly count the snow shoveling deaths as storm related.
LaLaLandNoMore said... 35 "Time does vindicate the prophet" as my grandmother used to say. ******* If you read here still, Robert, I hope you're vindicated, too. Robert laid bare the iron-clad contract that bound the Gosselins to them. Yet, it seemed nobody blinked when it was revealed that the family was beholden to TLC, even the kids. If they didn't film, penalties would be levied. If they tried to quit, well, that's history now, isn't it? The bottom line is that Kate LIED over and over again about bringing filming to a halt if anyone wanted to stop. I defy anyone to watch Jon's couch interview at the end of season 4 and still believe that's true.
localyocul said... 37 " “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way. ****** I hope that Jon will soon be able to reveal all the little secrets of filming, like the personal chef, TLC's celebrity treatment of J+K, all the things that were paid for all while Kate acted like they could barely afford food Jon has been somewhat revealing in the past about all the perks they got. I bet there's sooooooooooooo much more...
I was reading an article yesterday about why people have heart attacks when shoveling snow. It said it's the exertion plus the cold, which makes the arteries constrict slowing blood flow, so I would certainly count the snow shoveling deaths as storm related.
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What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
Government should not artificially inflate death numbers. That's wrong. They do it for funding, among other things.
Tucker's Mom (#67), remember when the tups were toddlers, and TFW said she discovered Hannah had full-blown ear infections in both ears? Can you imagine how many times those kids' symptoms were ignored, diminished, or pooh-poohed in order to keep on schedule for filming? That is neglect.
As a heart and lung patient I can attest to what Sue is saying. I can go for a brief walk in 60°F weather but am not allowed to step out a door when it gets to 40°F or below. My heart would stop just from breathing the cold air into my lungs. Exertion makes me suck in that icy air faster and more deeply and oxygenation is compromised, my heart has to work harder, and it escalates from there. It may not be a storm related death but would certainly be a weather related one. Shoveling snow can be a killer. Snow is only shoveled when it is cold enough to create snow, and it's a lot of lifting, breathing deeply and making your heart work hard.
It's so incredibly unethical that a network would get involved with a divorce and try to influence it, especailly when custody is involved--that their should be laws against it. I understand TLC doesn't have ethics but a law should forbid them from doing that.
If they want to pay for lawyers fine, but you get lawyers for both of the parents. You don't pick a side. Of course Jon is broke and not Kate. She wasn't wiped out from the divorce like a normal parent because she got someone else to pay. There's a huge advantage right there.
Their decision to pick Kate had lasting consequences for this family that will linger for the rest of the children's lives, long after this network is history. They had absolutely no business ever trying to influence it. We know they did. Remember Kate's comment about the divorce, it was decided she would file that particular week? I remember even in the recap I was like, huh, who decided?? TLC?
While I agree The Good Wife has run its course, I do still enjoy it. Revenge on the other hand just wore me out after a couple seasons with its hate and scheming. ***** I DVR'd Steve Harvey and some notes; Jon looked really nervous at first. Steve asked about how the show came about. Jon talked about the Discovery specials, then J+K+8, and how the episodes went from 8, to 12, then to 40 per season/year, and the audience GASPED. Then Jon said the next year was 52 episodes. Bigger GASP with lots of women shaking their heads. Jon felt like the crew started to boss them and the kids around to get footage, and that ticked him off. Kate wanted to film more, and Jon wanted to be more of a family. Regarding being sued by TLC, Jon said he tried to quit, but couldn't. J+K knew they were getting divorced, but TLC wanted them to act married and film. So, Jon quit and lost everything when TLC sided with Kate and paid for everything on her side (lawyers, etc.). He wanted his kids off tv, and it worked at first because filming went on hiatus (Jon said with a HUGE smile). But, TLC picked up specials, renamed the show and the rest is history. Regarding Jon's bad press, Jon said basically that he was silenced and his bad boy image was hammered out to the press by TLC, and he was unable to respond because TLC wouldn't let him by threatening to sue. Steve and Jon both reiterate that in real time, when Jon is reported in the media to be having peccadilloes left and right, his marriage was O-V-E-R, but episodes of them still together were just being seen. Hence, the "cheater" moniker. So, TLC is airing J+K married, but the tabloids are reporting Jon as a free agent. That controversy meant money for TLC. Jon talked about his DJ career, just mentioning it briefly.
About any regrets about the show, Jon thinks tv accelerated the divorce. He doesn't regret it because the kids are financially set.
Regarding visitation, we've seen the preview clip about not seeing them all, not co-parenting and not talking to Kate. Jon gives no reason as to why he doesn't see the one boy and said nothing about getting the court involved.
Jon thinks Kate is mad about Jon quitting, and going from an 11 rating and dropping down to a 2. That limited Kate's tv opportunities.
Jon's learned about trust and being strong, self-supporting and being a good person with a moral compass.
My impression is that Jon has a lot to say and wanted to get as much in as possible during the short segment. I'm utterly baffled as to why he hasn't seen his own child. That doesn't pass the smell test for me. Maybe we'll find out more when he's free from all ties.
What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
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Was the person hit by a car or did the sun cause the death?
In the case of shoveling, there is a direct correlation between the snow and shoveling and the ensuing fatality, which is why it is counted as a storm-related death. It happened as a result of the storm; a jogging death isn't the result of the sun shining (unless the person jogging was hit by a car because the driver was blinded by the sun).
A mother and her baby died from carbon monoxide while sitting in a car. The husband was clearing the exhaust pipe. Is this a storm-related death? Would they have been in that car with a blocked exhaust pipe if there had been no snow? At what point is *anything* counted as a storm-related fatality if everything can be explained away as would have happened anyway? If someone drowns during a flood while trying to evacuate their home, then it shouldn't be counted as such? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
I don't know, it really doesn't matter, but I do know that SH was aired at 3 and Jon did fine. He told it like it is, and has been pretty much consistent in what he's said over the years, and what I understand to have gone down in this whole TLC thing. You just don't mess with them or they will find a way to get you. He couldn't go up against them; his hands were tied.
I am also glad he didn't get into the whole court battle/custody thing other than saying that he doesn't see all of his kids at once. The legal workings of what is going on, his attorney's fight in all of this is being kept private. No need to air all of that.
Remember Kate's comment about the divorce, it was decided she would file that particular week? I remember even in the recap I was like, huh, who decided?? TLC? ****** I remember the dramatic, silent statement at the end of that blockbuster separation episode, which alluded to Jon's behavior forcing Kate to run to the courthouse to file and protect her family from some ill-defined threat. It was insane and 10 million people got the message: Jon Gosselin is a horrible father and husband. Kate Gosselin is Mama Grizzly protecting her cubs. I sometimes wonder if Jon could sue TLC for ruining his image with that stunt and more.
I watched the interview on Steve Harvey, and my sympathy for Jon has increased by a thousand fold. That poor man! Robbed of everything and now the salt goes in the wounds every time he goes to the gate to pick up who knows how many of his own kids. Finding out about the son he hasn't seen in 18 months is disturbing. If we feel frustration, how must Jon feel? Thank God he is getting on with his life and he has a life. I agree that TFW is blaming him for her "mediocre" television appearance and rise/fall to stardom. Her only claim to fame is having 8 kids (count 'em) 8 kids and placing their 8 faces on tv. Interesting that they can all 8 be filmed for television, but all 8 cannot visit their father. Jon appears to be genuine and loving. You know TFW cannot stand those qualities! She really has more hate for Jon than love for her kids. They have meant a paycheck for her from day one. That is not motherly love. We, here Admin, have her number and realized a long time ago that there was a lot Jon wasn't telling. Bad enough to have to fight TFW, but to find out she had the TLC network backing her all the way, now that is disgusting!
I can't believe I recognized Brenda in the View audience. She had on full make-up and was waving away at the camera. I bet she influenced the camera person to come film her and her friends.
Regarding the picture of Shoka: When I saw that photo my impression was that a woman was sitting on the side of the bed with her feet probably on the ground. To me, it didn't look like Kate, so I assumed it was either the nanny (whom I haven't seen to make a reasoned comparison) or a cleaning lady. Is it really Kate?
Admin said...(70) Well said. Thanks. Thanks to all who watched and posted. I still believe Jon is a good guy, and deserves happiness. He was run over by Kreider and her dream machine, TLC. She has tried to bully him out of a relationship with his children. They deserve better, so does he.
She knows why they're low. She needs him, and she hates that.
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Oh boy. The kids better start writing her a lot of comforting notes because she's going to be in a rage tonight. She'll have them rubbing her feet and bringing her meals in bed for days now.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 69 What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
I give up. A jogging death? 'Cause they were jogging when they died, or were they hit by a bus? That would maybe be called a traffic death?
I'm not sure a jog around the park can be compared to shoveling heavy snow for 2 or 3 hours.
I've got one for you. What do they call a death from jogging on a cold, sunny day while carrying a snow shovel and stopping every block to clear a path?
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
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Here's a scenario. A plane crashes and all one hundred people on board are killed. It goes down in a neighborhood where six people also die. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list? They certainly were victims of the crash or are they not counted because they weren't physically on the plane?
Tucker's Mom said... I would love for Jon's book to be in part, a take down of TLC and Discovery, and those entities of that ilk that will ruin your life if you dare try and void your contract to attempt to regain what's left of your "normal" life. ---------- Is there some reason why Jon should not be subjected to the same expectations of fulfilling contracts that the rest of us are? If I don't want to pay my mortgage, should I just stop?
Robert's book made it crystal clear that there were several contracts negotiated, so I don't think that the argument that they didn't have legal advice holds water. If they didn't have an attorney review their later contracts, then that is on them.
I have said it many times--the responsibility of protecting their children belongs to their parents. Period. TLC was perfectly within their rights to protect their investment by enforcing a contract that he signed and profited from. Jon sure didn't have any problem spending the money he received from filming! And, he probably continued to received a salary from them for several years after he stopped filming.
By now, it should be clear that this is a pattern of behavior--he has also allegedly had a lien from the IRS as well as a judgement against him by a previous employer.
Jon may be the more loving parent, but he is not the more responsible one.
And this is where I have to wonder where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC? They had to know that the pull of the show was the "family" dynamic - not Kate and the kids.
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Where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC, indeed! At the time of the divorce, Eileen O'Neill was the Prez of Discovery/TLC and she was VERY pro-TFW to the point of almost unbelievability.
I credit her and her pal Kate Coyne at People for the tag-team destruction job they did on the Gosselin family and especially Jon. Without those 2 women at the helm of 2 powerful media conglomerates, I think the outcome of this whole circus would have been quite different.
RunnerPa @runner_pa 4h4 hours ago RunnerPa Retweeted LNP Food + Living World would clear path to @kateplusmy8 success if she made peace with Jon Gosselin & began 2 coparent. Could be huge ------------------- Never going to happen. The only way that situation leads to success is if the coparenting is filmed. Jon is adamant that continued filming is harming the kids. There is no way he would go back on TV and pretend like he and Kate working together is helpful. Besides, everything would have to be done Kate's way. There is no peace with her, only surrender.
Is there some reason why Jon should not be subjected to the same expectations of fulfilling contracts that the rest of us are? If I don't want to pay my mortgage, should I just stop?
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Jon stopped because the contract was causing severe emotional damage to his children. They were going through a divorce, filming was ramping up, and he could not in good conscience continue. As he explained very clearly he was hoping by him going the kids would piggy back and be out too, which worked for awhile. He got them through the worst of the divorce without cameras, and for that he should have no regrets.
Sometimes you have to break the law or an agreement for the greater good. If there is some much greater good to not paying your mortgage or if it is causing severe damage to someone, then you might consider not paying. This is what ethics is and sometimes the ethical thing wins out over black letter law.
The same could be said for any kind of passive resistence to an agreement or law. I suppose there's no reason someone should take a seat at the front of the bus if the law says they can't, but someone decided to do that because it was the right thing to do. It's no different than anyone breaking the law for a bigger and better purpose, as Jon did.
Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
Respectfully said... 80 Regarding the picture of Shoka: When I saw that photo my impression was that a woman was sitting on the side of the bed with her feet probably on the ground. To me, it didn't look like Kate, so I assumed it was either the nanny (whom I haven't seen to make a reasoned comparison) or a cleaning lady. Is it really Kate?
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I went back to see if she was sitting on the side of the bed. She is sitting up, under the covers, no makeup, with a crazed look on her face with the light of her 509th pink iPhone, twittering away at 7:51 p.m.
Like Kate or hate her, her parenting comes into question when she doesn't send all 8 of her kids down that long driveway. As a mother she should desire all of her kids have a loving relationship with both parents. It's as simple as that. Love your kids enough to let them have a relationship with their father. And if something is wrong, do whatever it takes to fix it.
Here's a scenario. A plane crashes and all one hundred people on board are killed. It goes down in a neighborhood where six people also die. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list? They certainly were victims of the crash or are they not counted because they weren't physically on the plane?
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That scenario has actually occurred. They list the death toll as 106 and then break it down into passenger #s and # of people on the ground but all the deaths were the result of the plane crash. ;-)
. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list?
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Of course they are included. Their deaths are the direct result of the crash. However you do separate them out and say X amount of people died on the ground vs the plane, because that's just part of being accurate.
As I said this was just my opinion, but I believe in separating out direct deaths versus indirect deaths when calculating storm statistics.
Let me put it this way, someone who has a heart condition is at risk of death if they push their heart too much. If they died raking leaves on a chilly autumn day you wouldn't say death by colorful leaves. You would say they died from over-exertion while raking leaves. And yet, we say death by snow storm because there happened to be a blizzard that resulted in them going out and doing some chores that day? That makes no sense. It was death by over-exertion, IMO, and shouldn't be counted.
Actually, people who work in torts agonize over the direct and indirect causes of death and it can be very important to insurance and lawsuits whether a storm really caused someone's death, if it was a contributing factor, or bore no relation at all, as it might to say, a car accident because someone was texting that had nothing to do with the weather (and yet, I bet it's counted).
Ex-nurse, ITA that Jon had to legally uphold his end of the contract. It is what it is and you can't claim ignorance when it comes to contracts. What is sketchy is TLC paying for Kate's divorce attorneys.
I'm curious re: other's opinions. Since Jon's interview aired today, will TFW attempt to make the talk show rounds to refute what Jon said? Would any of the talk shows have her since technically promoting the show? In a way she would be, but it would have to be a highly scripted interview.
Susan1956 does Kate even get invited to interviews anymore?The last one was of Kathy lee gifford and that didn't even last for less then 3 mins.When was the last time she had a full interview?
As a mother she should desire all of her kids have a loving relationship with both parents. ****** That's what any sane, loving, selfless parent should desire. That's just not in her heart.
Has this interview been brought up to TFW on her timeline today? Has she tweeted today? If her kids were home from school because of the snow, I assumed she'd be on Twitter, to keep herself distracted from them.
I went back to see if she was sitting on the side of the bed. She is sitting up, under the covers, no makeup, with a crazed look on her face with the light of her 509th pink iPhone, twittering away at 7:51 p.m.
WHO OR WHAT was taking care of the kids??
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How can you see a crazed look on her face? I could barely see that she had a face.
Maybe the kids were with their dad, but at ages 11 and 15, do they really need constant care, even if they were at home?
Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
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Why would anyone make an assumption that he doesn't care if he sees them or not?
I have to wonder…we just heard that Jon is still working on a book project, and now there's a new interview. Perhaps his book is coming to soon. And I hope he gives TLC what they deserve in his book!
Tucker's Mom said... 73 About any regrets about the show, Jon thinks tv accelerated the divorce. He doesn't regret it because the kids are financially set.
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They might be financially set but the psychological damage that filming has done to them is obvious. It's about the only thing I disagree about with Jon. If they never filmed another episode and Kate managed the money prudently they'd probably stay financially secure until they're all on their own. But we know she has plans to continue until she's a centenarian.
They might be financially set but the psychological damage that filming has done to them is obvious. It's about the only thing I disagree about with Jon. If they never filmed another episode and Kate managed the money prudently they'd probably stay financially secure until they're all on their own. But we know she has plans to continue until she's a centenarian.
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I agree.
Even without the show the family would have been fine. Jon and Kate would have to work long hours, and the kids would have to make sacrifices in a smaller house. The kids would have to go to public school but the public schools in the area are fine. They would have to go to daycare instead of having a fancy live in nanny. They would have been fine. Having a lot of kids actually might have been helpful to them because it would qualify them for more discounts and public assistance especially when it comes to higher education.
When all is said and done and these kids are in their 30's and 40's I'd be really surprised if they look back on this experience and are really glad to do it because they got to go to Australia and Florida.
Weren't Bob Marley's last words when he had cancer something that for all the money in the world and here I am dying, what good was it? I remember reading that.
I find it improbable that Jon was paid by TLC after he left the show. They kept paying him while suing him? I have to think that there was a clause in that contract that made it void when he refused to film. TLC isn't a fly by the seat of your pants operation. You know they covered their asses.
As I said this was just my opinion, but I believe in separating out direct deaths versus indirect deaths when calculating storm statistics. -------------------- But as far as I can tell, you don't consider any of the deaths to be a "direct result" of the storm. Traffic deaths don't count because people die in traffic accidents even without a storm. Death by heart attack when shoveling snow don't count because the people could have overexerted in other ways. Death by carbon monoxide poisoning don't count because furnaces malfunction and cause carbon monoxide deaths anyway. What's left?
If someone falls in a ditch and smothers in the snow, does that count? Falls in a ditch a dies of hypothermia.
I think snow shoveling eats, in particular, are directly attributable to the storm. Yes, those people could have died running on a treadmill, but they don't/didn't. They have enough sense not to overexert themselves when they feel they have a choice.
For years, I did almost all the shoveling to keep our driveway clear while living in a high-snow area. Our typical weather pattern was for snow to start in the afternoon and continue into the small hours of the night. Because of my husband's unusual work hours, I had to shovel it when I got home from work so I could get my car into the driveway. I then shoveled again before I expected him home, so he could get into the driveway. If it was really coming down, I'd shovel in-between to make the last shoveling easier. The one thing I've learned from all that shoveling is to make it a marathon, not a sprint. I use a fairly narrow shovel (I call it a "lady's shovel") so it isn't too hard to lift even if it is full of wet snow. And I shovel SLOWLY, and stop every few minutes to lean on my shovel and look around at how pretty the snow is. And if I get tired, I go inside BEFORE I'M FINISHED and do something else for awhile, then go back out later to finish. With the very worst snow, like with this storm, the plows won't come for a while, so there really no reason to dig like a fiend.
Jon said the last yr they filmed together they did 52 episodes. 52! They had to film almost every second all year long.Unreal.
All for $$$$$$ I hope Jon is telling the truth that the kids are set-- but what exactly does that mean? College ? Grad school? Set for life?? And its a shame if the kids squander their money on college, because mommy probably thinks any degree would only provide a mediocre life. I guess she thinks the money would be better spent on botox and plastic surgery and hope for lightning to strike twice?? How about mailing a dream and sealing it with a kiss??? Barf
Do we know for sure that the children are financially set? I know that a certain percentage is being held in trust for them but it has also been said that TFW has access to cover their personal expenses.
It seems to me that not only are the children funding her expenses but their expenses can be deducted by her from their trust fund.
I find it improbable that Jon was paid by TLC after he left the show. They kept paying him while suing him? I have to think that there was a clause in that contract that made it void when he refused to film. TLC isn't a fly by the seat of your pants operation. You know they covered their asses.
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I remember the $22,000/mo child support payments being tossed around that Jon had to hand over. I wonder if that was his portion of pay for the shows he had filmed but had not yet aired and he was forced to use his earnings as those payments.
Then all of a sudden he was no longer obliged to pay child support. I wonder if he agreed that if the kids could continue to film he would not have to pay Kate child support. It sort of makes sense IF that's what happened.
The coroner should determine the cause of deaths that happened to occur during a storm, not politicians trying to pad up numbers for funding or news reporters trying to pad numbers for ratings. The coroner usually takes many weeks to release a conclusion.
Ordinarily, a daytime talk show appearance might not be a big deal. But lots of people were home from work today because of the weather, and may have tuned in to Jon's interview.
So tomorrow night is TFW's looking back episode. Expect a steaming pile of lies and insincerity.
Layla said... 109 I have to wonder…we just heard that Jon is still working on a book project, and now there's a new interview. Perhaps his book is coming to soon. And I hope he gives TLC what they deserve in his book!
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Did I read that "his contract is up" or something to that effect regarding Jon? My wishful thinking hopes this refers to some agreement to hold his tongue about anything TLC related. That would be so good if he could finally speak out. But, as someone mentioned above, it may be a book about parenting for divorced dads.
I don't know if we can believe the kids are financially set. When they turn 18, is Kate going to give them any money? For college or otherwise? In one of the Radar Online articles (when the show first started back up), a "source close to Kate" said that she needed to film to put the kids through college. If so, then what happened to their trust fund money? They should be all set for college.
When all is said and done and these kids are in their 30's and 40's I'd be really surprised if they look back on this experience and are really glad to do it because they got to go to Australia and Florida.
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Hopefully by the time they reach that age they'll have figured out that all those memories they were making weren't for the family's posterity but for prosperity -- Mommy's prosperity to be precise.
Hopefully by the time they reach that age they'll have figured out that all those memories they were making weren't for the family's posterity but for prosperity -- Mommy's prosperity to be precise.
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Yeah. I think they're going to figure it out way before then, like I'm talking before the age of 18.
Melissa Francis from Little House on the Prairie figured it out when she was about 16.
The kids are onto her. They're slowly becoming more aware. "Kate Plus Kate" I think was a watershed moment. It shows the kids realize that a lot of this show is about Kate getting to have all the fun. And this is an 11 year old realizing this.
I think Kate knows the jig is up, and I think that's why the kids are out of control because she knows they've got her over a barrel. She has no motivation to control them or upset them or restrict them. She has every motive to let them run the show.
My recollection was that Jon had to pay $21,000/month in child support up until around the time that the contract with TLC lapsed. If he hadn't drawn a paycheck since he stopped filming in summer of 2009, how could the courts have levied that amount of child support? Also, I know from personal business experience that many non-competes are compensated in some way. That would strengthen TLC's case. I might be wrong, but that is my opinion. I might be wrong on the timeline, but I remember the reduction coinciding with the lapsed contract date.
As far as the greater good argument, it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film. So, so much for the greater good. He was apparently all about ethics when he thought had a great media future. Not so much when those opportunities evaporated. Some may not believe that, but I do. If Jon had half of the character and integrity that many here ascribe to him, the kids would be a lot better off. I wish I could see him this way, but I don't. I don't care enough about this to spend any time on research. Why he has dragged this up out of the past is beyond me.
If he hadn't drawn a paycheck since he stopped filming in summer of 2009, how could the courts have levied that amount of child support?
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We weren't there when the support was calculated. But it makes all the sense in the world if you understand child support, because the courts usually base child support on what you "could" earn or are supposed to earn. Not always what you actually earn.
In general this is a good thing, because it prevents a doctor from quitting and getting a job at McDonalds in order to avoid huge child support payments. It prevents parents from being sneaky and gaming the system. In this case however, Jon didn't want to be on TV anymore, which for him meant an IT salary, not 22k a month.
However the courts may not have cared he didn't want to do TV anymore no more than they would care if a doctor didn't want to practice medicine anymore.
They're the ones that complain when the haters harass anyone that has anything to do with Kate, yet they're doing exactly the same thing. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Susan1956 does Kate even get invited to interviews anymore?The last one was of Kathy lee gifford and that didn't even last for less then 3 mins.When was the last time she had a full interview? ************************ I really can't remember the last time she had a full interview. The only reason she was on the Today Show was to promote the new season of the show. Other than that, she's really so 2009 and the mainstream media as well as a major portion of the public appear to be over her. I don't think she'll ever be invited to be a guest co-host on a talk show again. She's done CWS & CA--what other reality shows are left? All she has is her own show and I agree with admin that she is probably sweating bullets waiting to see the ratings for the last episode tomorrow and whether TLC will want more specials.
If Jon's custody lawyer is worth his or her salt, the interview with Steve Harvey may be one of the first steps towards enforcing visitation with all of the kids.
As far as the greater good argument, it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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Are you talking about the settlement in the TLC lawsuit, or his not paying child support? The latter was started by someone who threw it out there and the rumor spread and took off on wings of its own.
It was never confirmed, nor proven, nor anything else that Kate relieved Jon of paying child support because he agreed to sell his kids to TLC so that they could continue filming.
it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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It was widely speculated. In fact, such an arrangement would be illegal in most states including PA. You are not allowed to "negotiate away" child support, nor should you. That is because child support is in the best interest of the children, not the parents, and is not to be used as a bargaining chip like a house or a car. If a mother, or father, could say I won't make you pay child support if you agree to do this or not to do this or give me this or whatever, family courts would be chaos and terrible for children.
I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won.
Milo is doing PR for the final episode hoping her Katie Irene gets a renewal so Milo can continue her CWS.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
TUES.10pm A wiser @Kateplusmy8 goes back N time 2evaluate those "Did I do that?" mom moments! LOL Can't wait to see this! #Parenting @TLC
Milo is acting like this is America's Funniest Home Vidoes, not Kate being a bitch to her children.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 133 it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won.
Tucker's Mom said... 76 ****** I remember the dramatic, silent statement at the end of that blockbuster separation episode, which alluded to Jon's behavior forcing Kate to run to the courthouse to file and protect her family from some ill-defined threat.
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And didn't she tell that story shortly after that while she was sitting in the back of a boat on her way to Bald Head Island with Steve in tow? Something about her being 'advised' to file for divorce? Am I remembering that correctly?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
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Milo, can't you say DAMAGE CONTROL? Go ahead, use your words. snap snap
I think Harvey is wise not to engage with the sheep.I've heard Steve is big on children's rights and I'd bet he can take care of himself when it comes to Jon haters.
Katie...was your neighbor like this? https://www.facebook.com/robbie.c.davidson/posts/10206917153181027?comment_id=10206923002207249&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment_reply
Will there be eye poking and dabbing tomorrow night as TFW pretends to have learned and grown as a mom? How many takes will they have to shoot before she's able to generate tears?
The thing with learning and growth is that you have to work at it. And TFW doesn't do work. She says and does what she has to, when she has to, to get what she wants.
@susan1956 Now if only TLC would take the hint as well.As far as this last episode.Since its another look back episode.Im going to say low views cause they usually don't get high numbers.Though i could be wrong.
Speaking of SLAPP suits, I went to Via View and could make neither heads nor tails out of that. I am really out of the loop. What I could figure out is that BV has been hit with sanctions, but do any of those lawsuits have anything to do with the class action suit that he allegedly promised the sheeple?
Poor Steve Harvey. The fallout from his Miss Universe gaffe is nothing compared to having to deal with TFW's intellectually-challenged fans!
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I bet he read a few of them and thought to himself, "Who or what are these nutjobs and how incredibly stupid are they?"
Let 'em go. They are just confirming what we've known all along. They are among the dumbest sheep ever to graze in the barnyard. They continue to show that there isn't a lick of intelligence there. I was just reading some tweets from a fan who is perhaps one of the top six most "intellectually challenged" to ever show up on Kate's TL. You almost have to feel sorry for them.
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
Like a gazillion parents haven't lit up now and again. The pearl clutching was so inauthentic and stupid. Over pot? California Court of Appeal has virtually said family courts may **not*** intervene in parents who smoke marijuana, it's not child abuse and you have no business saying so.
I'm glad the deck dude thinks a ton of snow on the deck is safe. Hopefully that's based on the opinion of an engineer and pounds per inch science. It just occurred to me that once that snow melts through all the floor boards it's going to make a wet, soppy mud pit below the deck. What a mess.
Jeanelle Shilling @jkshilli 1h1 hour ago @Kateplusmy8 loved the episode of your blind date! So much fun! But, Did he have a ring on his left hand when he shut the limo door?
Geez. Yes, he wasn't wearing it for the date. He just put the ring on the finger when he closed the limo door so there would be a close-up and viewers could speculate what kind of a ring it was. He removed it after that shot.
Sheepless In Seattle said... 152 Jeanelle Shilling @jkshilli 1h1 hour ago @Kateplusmy8 loved the episode of your blind date! So much fun! But, Did he have a ring on his left hand when he shut the limo door?
Geez. Yes, he wasn't wearing it for the date. He just put the ring on the finger when he closed the limo door so there would be a close-up and viewers could speculate what kind of a ring it was. He removed it after that shot. -------------
OMG, is that for real? The ring thing was a deliberate fake-out to viewers? Or were you just being ironic? I didn't watch so I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to throw a cheap shot like that in there, just to heighten the speculation.
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OMG, is that for real? The ring thing was a deliberate fake-out to viewers? Or were you just being ironic? I didn't watch so I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to throw a cheap shot like that in there, just to heighten the speculation.
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It was snark on my part. Sorry about that! I was poking at the silliness of a sheep's tweet.
I'm glad the deck dude thinks a ton of snow on the deck is safe. Hopefully that's based on the opinion of an engineer and pounds per inch science.
)))) Yes, I hope so, too. He should come over here and see the roofs on commercial buildings that have collapsed, even though they were supported by steel beams. Decks, too have collapsed, but maybe those weren't built by the Deckmeister.
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I wasn't talking about child support. It was widely reported that his settlement with TLC was that he agreed to let them be filmed, and, in exchange, TLC dropped the lawsuit.
Admin said.... I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won. ------ If this is what happened, why did TLC drop the lawsuit. Are you saying that there was nothing asked in exchange from Jon?
If this is what happened, why did TLC drop the lawsuit.
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They didn't drop the lawsuit. They reached a settlement. Huge difference. For all we know the settlement was Jon agreeing not to sue them if they agree to not sue him.
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms.
I am missing something here. What is a Tuscan DeeAnna?
Jessa Wilson @katesbusted 42m42 minutes ago @finndango @bitemeaholesFU @Sassccha @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I think Milo is a sickO & maybe she is Tuscan DeeAnna!
rainbowsandunicorns said... 106 Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
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Why would anyone make an assumption that he doesn't care if he sees them or not? ******* Because they are children and they already have emotional problems on top of everything else.
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
Like a gazillion parents haven't lit up now and again. ----------------------------------------------- That includes the Prime Minister of Canada. There was much pearl-clutching by the Conservatives, but this was well known before the latest election, and he was elected PM anyway.
Ex Nurse, I don't know that I would say either Jon or Kate was the more responsible parent. I don't know enough. But his lack of responsibility with money should not mean he doesn't see his kids. He has shelter, he can feed them. As far as I know, he's never claimed he can't handle having them all visit at once.
This is what I understand of the money after the divorce. There was a bunch of back and forth about who took what money out of which account. Eventually, Jon was given a lump sum as part of the divorce (common in division of assets). Somehow Kate's lawyer got the court to order the $20,000 (or whatever exact amount) per month in child support. This went on until Jon had paid back all of his lump sum and was broke. Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000. Kate and Jon appear from Robert's book and other sources to have been paid per episode, not a fixed salary. Since Jon wasn't in any more episodes, I don't believe TLC would have paid him anything.
I don't believe Jon can change anything. Kate has money and TLC has more money and their judge appears to respond to that. When they are older Jon can try to see everyone but other than that he's screwed. The police have helped Kate break the law for years (according to Robert's book). They won't help now.
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I don't believe Jon can change anything. Kate has money and TLC has more money and their judge appears to respond to that. When they are older Jon can try to see everyone but other than that he's screwed. The police have helped Kate break the law for years (according to Robert's book). They won't help now. ***** Maybe I'm wrong, but if the court awards Jon his one night per week and every other Fri-Mon, then it doesn't matter who the police side with. The police are there to enforce the court order. All Jon has to do is call. Jon called the police and they responded when Kate tried to enter the compound when it was his time there with the kids. I don't see how its any different when Jon pulls up to the gate and not all the kids are produced by Kate. That's her court-ordered duty. Remember the report (by Robert?) that the kids all staged a sit-in when Jon tried to get them in the van to go back to Kate's? He had to get those kids back and he did. They didn't want to go, but too bad, so sad. They had to and Jon complied. He didn't say, "Oh, sorry, Kate, Hannah and Joel didn't want to go back. You get what you get.".
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms. ***** That speculation has taken on a life of its own and is now bandied about as fact, even by publications (such that they are).
I'd love to see her on Celebrity Jeopardy. And not the Saturday Night Live version. ****** I love when Will Ferrell does Alex Trebek and would love to see what he'd say to Kate's character. I remember when Taylor Swift played Kate on SNL. Not flattering.
I am sick and tired of the repeat as fact that Jon gave up his custody rights. It's false. He is suppose to see the kids every other weekend and dinner one night a week. He has custody rights.
I agree with Admin that the likely scenario was that Kate and TLC continue with filming because Jon does not have the money to fight. A master plan that has worked brilliantly, IMO.
As far as Jon producing a book, that is wishful thinking. He probably has everything written down, though. My guess he will be sued by Discovery if he released a book.
TLC stinks said...... I am sick and tired of the repeat as fact that Jon gave up his custody rights. It's false. ************* I agree! So much is confidential and we simply don't know! And separate from custody agreement, TLC sued Jon for breach of contract, also confidential. They settled.
I have to add, idiot busybodies like Goody and Milo throw their gossip and innuendo out there, shoompey doesn't say a word, so they star to believe themselves.
Kate will never take the high road to demand her sheep not discuss such things, their lies serve her purpose.
Jillygee (#168), oh, TFW must be in heaven with a TLC marathon on today. If only she wasn't saddled with her 8 little moneymakers at home with her, it would be her idea of a perfect day. Maybe she'll start her tweet party early, so she won't have to be bothered with them.
Reader (#174), I can just imagine TFW's Grinchy grin as she reads her fans' gossip and innuendo about her ex. They're doing her dirty work for her, and it doesn't cost her a dime. She's like Tom Sawyer getting the kids to whitewash the fence. C'mon, guys, join the fun! Do it do it do it!
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It was never confirmed, nor proven, nor anything else that Kate relieved Jon of paying child support because he agreed to sell his kids to TLC so that they could continue filming. **** The sheep take the kids filming as fait accompli that Jon bargained away paying child support. Well, it just goes to their low-information nature and lack of critical thinking skills.
Of course, Kate would never, ever disabuse them of the notion.
Seems immoral, evil really that TLC took care of Kate's divorce with their very deep pockets. God, she really just came in, took from Jon and his family, took from everyone, his 20's spent changing diapers, baths, feedings, and when he has 2nd thoughts about the filiming, the church love offerings, (and I suspect watching friends back away) Bam! He's hit on the head with a divorce and then lawsuit, both funded by TLC. Woman is a monster.
During the Steve Harvey interview, I liked how Jon addressed whether or not the show caused the divorce. He said it accelerated the demise of their marriage, but credited other factors. I think that's honest. Kate acts like they were inevitably doomed, and completely eschews the show's role in breaking them up. Further, Kate constantly puts Jon down by basically calling him a mistake, and saying she needs to do better next time. It's nasty, immature and abusive to her kids to speak of their father like that. I think that most of the kids will have big, big problems with Kate when they realize how she manipulated their feelings and regard for Jon.
Further, Kate constantly puts Jon down by basically calling him a mistake, and saying she needs to do better next time. It's nasty, immature and abusive to her kids to speak of their father like that.
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That's one of the big things she really needs to stop. It's terrible to say that when your children will hear it.
Imagine if Jon said that about her, he should have/could have done better. Her feelings would be hurt and she darn well knows it, and it would hurt the children too. It's not nice and does nothing to foster a better relationship with your ex or to calm the cloud of bitterness around your children.
Hmmmm....makes you wonder what TLC is trying to hide. Or what he was doing for the FRC that he needs to be kept private. Curiouser and curiouser.
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Admin (#181), and it's preposterous for TFW to say those things about her marriage being a mistake, after she's crowed about being the one who "keeps the peace." So many awful things that are on the record, and which her children will eventually watch, read, or hear. All evidence of her being a piss poor parent.
She's like Tom Sawyer getting the kids to whitewash the fence. C'mon, guys, join the fun! Do it do it do it!
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From what her brother Kevin said, she's been doing that her whole life. He said she'd get him to do her chores for her when she still lived at home. It's an art form with Kate. Good grief, she somehow even managed to get Leeza Gibbons to take over her CA project.
Jeanne said..... Ex Nurse, I don't know that I would say either Jon or Kate was the more responsible parent. I don't know enough. But his lack of responsibility with money should not mean he doesn't see his kids. He has shelter, he can feed them. As far as I know, he's never claimed he can't handle having them all visit at once. -------- I didn't say anything about whether he is capable of having all of the kids at once--I was talking about his breaking the contract.
As far as filming goes--on SH, he said that he succeeded in shutting down the filming. But then, after the settlement, magically, filming was resumed again. There have been much bigger leaps of logic made, here when it comes to Kate. Anyway, as I said, it is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary (if it was not already stipulated in the contract).
Also, Jeanne, both Jon and Kate have said that Jon was relieved of child support, other than what he provides for his custody time. So, according to the custody schedule.
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From Jon's instagram comments (re: the Steve Harvey interview):
xxxxcon_incHi Jon, I just watched your interview... You stated you hadn't seen your son in over a year... You get to see all the kids but one? Can't the court order Kate to allow you to see all your kids? It saddens me that you only see four at a time.
dj_jon_gosselinYou think that would be the norm, but not in this case!
I know I get frustrated, but really my frustration is for Jon, not at Jon. Evidently, there's more to the story about why Jon doesn't see his child.
Kindof surprised Franky would post her again after given the other blog owner an EARFUL about the admin. I was under the impression we here were haters and miserable awful people.
Although I have learned some things about the folks who post in both places.
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I watched the interview and I think he did very well. He did not bash Kate, just simply stated what the state of their relationship is today. He did confirm what a lot of us have surmised for a long time and that is that Kate is so angry at him because he stopped filming and she just can't get over it. I have always felt that to be true. All in all he did a good job explaining how TLC and Kate worked together to bring him to his knees.
It looks like Dr. Drew is going to be on the show too. You know, the Dr. pat-poor-teary-eyed-Katie-on-the-hand-and-give-her-a-Keurig Drew. Yeah, that guy.
I wonder if he and Jon chatted about the ex-wife from hell in the Green Room.
Thanks for Jon's opportunity to open the curtain to how TLC managed the divorce. This blog nailed it long ago, but others out there in the general public may never have thought of it. I'm very proud of how Jon kept it to TLC, his own decisions and his own facts. In that clip I heard nothing about Kate being a hateful, duplicious, or otherwise difficult person.
He kicked TLC under the bus, not Kate.
I hope he does as well during the rest of the interview.
Terri said... 2
I watched the interview and I think he did very well. He did not bash Kate, just simply stated what the state of their relationship is today. He did confirm what a lot of us have surmised for a long time and that is that Kate is so angry at him because he stopped filming and she just can't get over it. I have always felt that to be true. All in all he did a good job explaining how TLC and Kate worked together to bring him to his knees.
January 25, 2016 at 7:21 AM
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Kate knows her numbers will never be as big as when Jon was on the show. I can believe she will hold that against Jon forever.
I hope Jon can soon tell his own side of the story in its entirety.
He kicked TLC under the bus, not Kate.
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Yes, very good distinction between that, and how Kate nails Jon at every turn.
Oh, sure, it's always obliquely and thinly-veiled, but she throws Jon under the bus all the time.
It's important for fans and people in general (who have followed the saga and media crucifixion of Jon) to understand that while Kate whined about how much money was spent on the divorce, she wasn't paying.
TLC was.
TLC also mounted a smear campaign as they positioned Kate to be the poor, cheated-upon wife, left with 8 kids to raise all on her own.
So far I have only seen the promo of this interview but it reinforces what has been said here for years - TFW hates her ex more than she loves their children. If she truly loved them she would put aside her anger and foster a loving relationship with their father and everyone would benefit.
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Steve Harvey follows Dr. Phil here. 4:00. I have the program set to record.
Hi, Bluebird.
@Tucker's mom the show had 10 million when jon was on,so when it became kate plus 8 it was 2 million and now its down to 1 million and heck even some didn't even reach a million.It just goes 2 show how far the show gone down when 9 million tune out.
I would like to see the whole story come out, either in a main stream magazine or TV show, about how TLC and Kate worked to destroy Jon. Of course, Jon was in breach of contract, so TLC could legally go after him. I think TLC wanted to use Jon as an example as to what they would do to their "talent" if they decided they no longer wanted to film. Kate got a golden deal with TLC paying her legal expenses. Now the question is why is there still a custody battle going on? Is TLC involved because they want to continue the filming (and Kate) and they are financing her attorneys still?
Jamesvader, the show was at 10 million for the episode where the separation was announced. I don't think those were the normal numbers for J&K+8.
I truly believe that the big reason Kate is trying to keep as many of the kids away from Jon as possible is that there is strength in numbers. Think about it. If ALL the kids visited with Jon on a regular basis there is a good chance that a whole lot of Kate's secrets and what goes on in that house would come to light. I also think that Mady holds the key to this entire saga being exposed for the dysfunctional mess that it is, and I think Kate knows it! Why else would a woman who is so very controlling and wants everything done to her expectations allow this one child to walk all over her like Mady does. The next few years are going to be very interesting indeed.
As far as conspiracy theories, I've always thought that initial pap photo of Jon in the car with the school teacher was a set up because at that point Jon and Kate knew the divorce was going to happen and he's given notice to TLC. He started going out ( a mistake) but it played right into their hands. Jon has always sworn he never cheated on Kate. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it's a shame he acted out so poorly during that time. He was an easy target.
Jamesvader1194 said... 9
@Tucker's mom the show had 10 million when jon was on,so when it became kate plus 8 it was 2 million and now its down to 1 million and heck even some didn't even reach a million.It just goes 2 show how far the show gone down when 9 million tune out.
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I always throw out the 10 million viewer statistic because it's an outlier. I don't know what J+K+8 averaged back in its hey day, but I think it was double or triple what K+8 brings in.
It looks like Dr. Drew is going to be on the show too. You know, the Dr. pat-poor-teary-eyed-Katie-on-the-hand-and-give-her-a-Keurig Drew. Yeah, that guy.
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Yes, although a couple years ago Dr. Drew produced a widely regarded documentary about how good parents get screwed in the family law courts all the time in the U.S. Shockingly, he concluded whoever has the most money wins.
Jon has always sworn he never cheated on Kate. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it's a shame he acted out so poorly during that time. He was an easy target.
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Exactly. The big fucketydoo made about Jon cheating after Kate spent days and weeks traveling with Steve, leaving him with the kids back at home, just makes me laugh.
Really? After years of Jon staying at home while Kate took off with Steve, it's a joke to call the cuckold a cheater.
it's a shame he acted out so poorly during that time. He was an easy target.
Yes, an easy target in more ways than one.
I was watching about one minute of the View (rarely do) and they cut to commercial and the cameras scanned the audience. I swear I thought I saw Kate's crazy, celebrity worship buddy Brenda. Does anybody remember her twitter handle? I want to see if she twitter she was at the View today. Thanks!
Oh,well thanks Fidosmommy and tucker's mom for correcting me.I just saw someone say 10 million and that made me think it was around there.
Hello to everyone, I didn't think any of you would remember me.
Steve Harvey is on at 4pm here also, I DVR'd it too.
Why am I not surprised that Jon didn't badmouth Kate, he has more class than that. He also knows that the children may see the show. I'm sure they hear Kate throwing Jon under the bus all the time, albeit I do hope they're smart enough to know by now that everything Kate says is either a lie or completely over exaggerated.
Does anyone know if Jon is still writing the book he had mentioned last year?
Admin @ 15 - and not surprisingly TLC has the most.
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As far as conspiracy theories, I've always thought that initial pap photo of Jon in the car with the school teacher was a set up because at that point Jon and Kate knew the divorce was going to happen and he's given notice to TLC
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It could have been her, I can't remember, but at least one of the girls Jon was "seen" with is a lesbian. They were just friends.
When the show had Jon on it, it consistently gave TLC it's highest ratings. The 10 million was just the separation announcement show. TLC obviously had a lot to lose if Jon walked. Now that all Kate brings in is one million, TLC reverted to these short seasons because she cannot carry a normal season of shows. Right now, with Kate being fairly quiet on Twitter, she is probably on pins and needles waiting to hear if there will be more upcoming seasons. Now would be the time because of the production calendar. If she goes on Twitter like she is high as a kite, she got renewed. I am pretty much betting it will happen unless her demands outweigh TLC's expenses.
Kate keeping some of the kids away is her way of giving Jon the finger and keeping him tangled with attorneys and their fees. She's about making trouble, revenge and estrangement.
Bluebird,
I forgot about Jon's book! Wasn't it to be about parenting? Or his philosophy of life? I doubt it is forthcoming tbh.
Nice to see your posts!
I think TLC wanted to use Jon as an example as to what they would do to their "talent" if they decided they no longer wanted to film. 10
Discovery (tlv's parent company) went after some of the Deadliest Catch "stars" with a vengeance when they no longer wanted to film.
@TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over.I remember she had 2 million a year or 2 ago and now its ratings are slightly worse then last years.So im going to guess and say just some specials and not a full show.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 15
Shockingly, he concluded whoever has the most money wins.
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Anonymous said... 21
Admin @ 15 - and not surprisingly TLC has the most.
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It had to be TLC because it certainly wasn't Kate. The poor thing was broke. She even went on the Today show and told Meredith she was destitute. Couldn't pay the bills *sniff* Only had $1000 in her purse *dab* Couldn't provide for her family *waaah*.
What a gagfest that was.
Mrs Uggs is at the view today per her Twitter. Good eye!
Rhymes with Witch said... 26
Discovery (tlv's parent company) went after some of the Deadliest Catch "stars" with a vengeance when they no longer wanted to film.
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Oh yes. Discovery/TLC are brutal. Show up for work or we'll have your balls in a fishing net and your ass in court.
Funny how Kate always said that if one family member wanted to call the show quits, they would stop filming but their contract with TLC said something quite the opposite.
The moral of the story is hire a good lawyer to read you the small print before you sign on the dotted line. All Jon and Kate saw in the beginning were the dollar signs. And that's still all Kate sees to this day. The only truthful words she's ever uttered are 'the show is my life'.
Steve Harvey is on here at 4 p.m. CST and programmed to watch.
Maybe Jon will write a book about his experience being on reality tv and how a network (TLC) as someone posted brought him to his knees. If he did, could TLC sue him?
After the airing of the SH show, the ball is now in TFW's court. Will she still keep doing what she is doing? Will the court and judge get involved? Will the media go ape you know about it? Hope so.
If it is found out that C has been afraid to go and visit his dad because of his obligation to Shoka and the chickens not being cared for when he is gone, the judge needs to court order TFW to either hire someone to take care of them or get rid of them.
I wonder if Dr. Drew will be on the stage with Jon or will Dr. Drew come on later by himself and they talk about Jon's situation. Then later on Jon and Dr. Drew together.
I thought it was a win in Jon's favor for putting a picture of him, his gf and 4 or 5 of the kids. It shows that he doesn't have all 8 with him. Looked like they were at the beach.
What happened to Kate's blog? It had a brief (but wordy) surge for the deck episode, and then collapsed into a coma again.
Wow. Jon threw TLC under the bus. Good for him!
Yes, did you ever notice when TFW would gripe about the cost of the divorce but ever notice she didn't say, I am paying for my share of the divorce. TLC is bankrolling it. Jon didn't have any money to fight.
http://lancasteronline.com/features/entertainment/jon-gosselin-on-steve-harvey-show-today-judging-chili-cook/article_f6aff2ea-c37b-11e5-b355-73f0ac7f472f.html
Formerly Duped said... 25
Bluebird,
I forgot about Jon's book! Wasn't it to be about parenting? Or his philosophy of life? I doubt it is forthcoming tbh.
Nice to see your posts!
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In the article about the chili cookoff, where the cookoff person is talking about how misunderstood Jon is, she said she met him through a friend who is collaborating with him on a book
"Time does vindicate the prophet" as my grandmother used to say. We have been saying for years that Jon has been punished over and over for saying, "I am done filming." We also remember when TFW was saying, "when one of us wants to stop filming, it stops." Liar, liar, to the core. How could anyone go up against TLC/TFW who wasn't already rich? Sad for Jon. I believe he was used from the beginning of their relationship. Very clear to see. Pieces are coming together. This interview will not sit well with TFW. Be "on guard", Jon.
NJGal51 said... 29
Mrs Uggs is at the view today per her Twitter. Good eye!
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OMG that is sooo funny! She's a minicelebrity!
" “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way. She has millions of dollars for doing nothing and for bad behavior. I'm not JELLUS I'm frustrated that someone like her can come out ahead (and act as if it is due to her "hard work". That pic of her lying in bed taking a pic of Shoka in her room at 7 pm says it all
I feel Jon got good timing since ever since the duggars got expose and TLC is planning more specials with them.I think more people have opened their eyes about what kind of company TLC is.However i've notice some hypocritical people who say that Jill and Jessa exploit their children whereas Kate does the show to provide for her kids.What gives?Why is it ok for Kate to exploit her kids but Jessa and Jill are doing the same thing she's doing but thats child exploitation?SMH
" “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
And this is where I have to wonder where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC? They had to know that the pull of the show was the "family" dynamic - not Kate and the kids. The fact that TLC had a BIG hand in the destruction of the relationship between Jon and his kids is beyond reprehensible.
I look forward to the day when this network is no longer...and based on the new shows that have coming along, it won't be long. This is a network that used to boast millions of viewers - when it actually WAS The Learning Channel. Now, it's all reality freak shows and idiots buying wedding dresses. The upcoming episode of "The Little Couple" is a freakin' doggy fashion show - seriously????
LaLaLandNoMore (#35), I remember Jon saying loud and clear that he wanted to go back to being Jon Gosselin. And TFW, as if trying to translating his words into her own language, said they needed to (pantomiming the action) "iron things out."
I guess that annual family vote about filming she always talked about didn't include her husband's opinion.
Oh FFS Channel 10 just preempted the s how fo the mayor's press conference re the weather.
Does anyone know if Jon is still writing the book he had mentioned last year?
January 25, 2016 at 8:38 AM
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The person who hooked Jon up with that Chili cook off said that he's working on his book.
Mrs Uggs is at the view today per her Twitter. Good eye!
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OMG that is sooo funny! She's a minicelebrity!
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I had to laugh when someone here commented about her always wanting hugs, and when I looked at her Twitter, yep, she wants hugs. Of course she tweeted Joy, Raven telling them that she will be there. She also put her buddy, Daymond, on notice that she is in NYC. Like anyone really cares. She is something else.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 22 Jan
@billyeichner I am coming to NYC Monday to @TheView to see you !! I can't wait !! #youCrackMeUp #theGoodCrack #MyLaughDrug #wantAhugPlease$1
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 22 Jan
@TheSharkDaymond I am coming to your beloved city. This Sunday / Monday !! #cantWait #lovenyc 1/24-1/25
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 5h
@billyeichner I am here @TheView brrrr cold I need a hug! Please
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 · 5h
@CedEntertainer you here ?? In #NYC ? I am here @TheView I hope to meet you !! #hugeFan
Rhymes with Witch said... 26
I think TLC wanted to use Jon as an example as to what they would do to their "talent" if they decided they no longer wanted to film. 10
Discovery (tlv's parent company) went after some of the Deadliest Catch "stars" with a vengeance when they no longer wanted to film.
January 25, 2016 at 9:22 AM
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In the Steve Harvey clip when Jon is talking about quitting TLC and reality tv, and how hard it is compared to putting in notice for a regular job, Harvey was giving Jon a huge knowing nod.
As if to say, "Oh, yeah, I hear ya brother".
I would love for Jon's book to be in part, a take down of TLC and Discovery, and those entities of that ilk that will ruin your life if you dare try and void your contract to attempt to regain what's left of your "normal" life.
@TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over.I remember she had 2 million a year or 2 ago and now its ratings are slightly worse then last years.So im going to guess and say just some specials and not a full show.
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One can't even guess in something like this. Other shows may be cancelled and they need her for filler. Then again, they might now. TLC will do what TLC wants to do. We thought her show was cancelled way back when, but nope, there she was for more episodes and not just specials.
jamezvader1194 said... 27
@TLC stinks im unsure,i don't see TLC bringing her back full time but im not saying they are going to stop filming.Im certain about the sweet 16 episode and of course the 13th birthday but regular viewers are just going to get bored seeing the same thing over and over.
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For all the "twists and turns" Kate teased about for this season, on the Today Show, it was nothing but Ground Hog Day with a bit of churlish, snarky and nasty teenagers thrown in for color.
It could have been her, I can't remember, but at least one of the girls Jon was "seen" with is a lesbian. They were just friends.
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Maybe she was the person for whom Deck Dude built a deck.
Well, Steve Harvey came back just in time for the exact end of Jon's interview. Thanks Mayor Kenney
The money for Kate's divorce costs HAD to have gone through TLC's books, right? So how can they not report that to the IRS as "payment in kind" and Kate would have to pay taxes on it? Maybe they did and maybe she did.
I know in my little world, if we are given a car or some big gift that goes beyond ordinary salary and benefits, it gets reported as income, payment in kind. It is presumed the bonus gift was earned through our employment. The IRS hears about it because both the treaurer and we report it.
I wonder how that works with TLC and its talent.
Uggs was at Steve Harvey? Lol!
I mean Harvey is Ugg's preferred, um, demographic.
localyocul, the timestamp on TFW's picture said 5:51 pm. Was it actually 6:51 because she is EST?
I am CST and am I seeing it at 5:51 for that reason?
I want it to be 5:51 p.m. because that is an hour earlier and it makes you wonder when what time she actually got into the bed and who was watching the kids?
She must not be afraid of her comeuppance being involved in something causing her to be bedridden.
Well, I missed it this afternoon. I remembered to turn it on, and just as I did, the network broke away with a live broadcast on storm details from Philly. They resumed regular programming just as Steve was thanking Jon for being there. I'll have to check to see if it's on again.
Local...did they do the same thing in your area?
I just watched Jon on SH. It's so sad that he's being kept in the dark about not seeing his son for a year and a half and he doesn't know why.
What kind of a mother, as if we don't know, shuts down all communication to the point where the father doesn't have contact with his own child? What the hell is the matter with her and is there NO lawyer out there who can penetrate that wall of silence for Jon?
Something more than just Kate's sausage cacciatore stinks at the Konpound.
localyocul said...(37)
"It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way. She has millions of dollars for doing nothing and for bad behavior. I'm not JELLUS I'm frustrated that someone like her can come out ahead (and act as if it is due to her "hard work". That pic of her lying in bed taking a pic of Shoka in her room at 7 pm says it all"
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I think what's worse is that it's not really nothing she's doing, she's in fact exploiting her children and selling their privacy for that money.
She had plenty of opportunities to establish herself as a marketable commodity (brand) on her own. The fact is she couldn't do it because she is so inauthentic, unlikable and frankly, too lazy to put the effort into learning any relevant skills.
The woman couldn't even manage to put together a half-decent cookbook. Instead she filled it with huge glossy photos of her kids. Again, selling them.
The Gosselin brand is the Gosselin kids. Once they are old enough to decide they are done she's toast and the chances of us being subjected to her fugly mug on our tvs diminishes greatly.
I'm with you local, frustration does not equate jealousy. You'd have to be mad to be jealous of that woman but it's pretty easy to be frustrated by the whole scenario.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 47
Uggs was at Steve Harvey? Lol!
I mean Harvey is Ugg's preferred, um, demographic.
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No, she was at the View. Someone here recognized her in the audience lol
Uggs was at The View not Steve Harvey.
local! Yes, like I really care about parking in Philly when I can't even get out from under the snow here (Thirteen roads still closed and the city remains under an emergency)! Steve is on here again at 3, unless the mayor grabs the station for another go-around on conditions in Philly.
I was thinking about the death total from the storm and it keeps getting higher. An eight-months pregnant teen died from shoveling, one man from using his snow blower and another who was driving a tractor and plowing, both of those from heart attacks. They are now saying that it will be another week until our streets are cleared.
redbird said... 51
localyocul, the timestamp on TFW's picture said 5:51 pm. Was it actually 6:51 because she is EST?
I am CST and am I seeing it at 5:51 for that reason?
I want it to be 5:51 p.m. because that is an hour earlier and it makes you wonder when what time she actually got into the bed and who was watching the kids?
She must not be afraid of her comeuppance being involved in something causing her to be bedridden.
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No, I double checked me time settings. Go into your Twitter settings and time should be GMT-6 for CST. Her tweet shows 7:51 pm
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
No, she was at the View. Someone here recognized her in the audience lol
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Was she with her hot friends?
PA Dutch Mom said... 52
Well, I missed it this afternoon. I remembered to turn it on, and just as I did, the network broke away with a live broadcast on storm details from Philly. They resumed regular programming just as Steve was thanking Jon for being there. I'll have to check to see if it's on again.
Local...did they do the same thing in your area?
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I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
I was just listing to a report on this, and the reason that they are being reported as such is because if there had been no storm, they wouldn't have been out shoveling. Therefore, it is a storm-related death. That makes sense to me.
After the airing of the SH show, the ball is now in TFW's court. Will she still keep doing what she is doing?
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Of course, except maybe Deanna will weigh in on Jon's fathering.
local, watching it now. At least the mayor stayed away this time!
The Court of Public Opinion said... 32
What happened to Kate's blog? It had a brief (but wordy) surge for the deck episode, and then collapsed into a coma again.
January 25, 2016 at 10:08 AM
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Kate fulfilled her quid pro quo and has gone back to ignoring the work that is keeping up a blog.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
I was reading an article yesterday about why people have heart attacks when shoveling snow. It said it's the exertion plus the cold, which makes the arteries constrict slowing blood flow, so I would certainly count the snow shoveling deaths as storm related.
LaLaLandNoMore said... 35
"Time does vindicate the prophet" as my grandmother used to say.
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If you read here still, Robert, I hope you're vindicated, too.
Robert laid bare the iron-clad contract that bound the Gosselins to them. Yet, it seemed nobody blinked when it was revealed that the family was beholden to TLC, even the kids.
If they didn't film, penalties would be levied. If they tried to quit, well, that's history now, isn't it?
The bottom line is that Kate LIED over and over again about bringing filming to a halt if anyone wanted to stop.
I defy anyone to watch Jon's couch interview at the end of season 4 and still believe that's true.
localyocul said... 37
" “But the network sided with my ex-wife. They paid for her divorce attorneys, everything."
It is so infuriating that this witch has EVERYTHING go her way.
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I hope that Jon will soon be able to reveal all the little secrets of filming, like the personal chef, TLC's celebrity treatment of J+K, all the things that were paid for all while Kate acted like they could barely afford food
Jon has been somewhat revealing in the past about all the perks they got. I bet there's sooooooooooooo much more...
I was reading an article yesterday about why people have heart attacks when shoveling snow. It said it's the exertion plus the cold, which makes the arteries constrict slowing blood flow, so I would certainly count the snow shoveling deaths as storm related.
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What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
Government should not artificially inflate death numbers. That's wrong. They do it for funding, among other things.
Tucker's Mom (#67), remember when the tups were toddlers, and TFW said she discovered Hannah had
full-blown ear infections in both ears? Can you imagine how many times those kids' symptoms were ignored, diminished, or pooh-poohed in order to keep on schedule for filming? That is neglect.
As a heart and lung patient I can attest to what Sue is saying. I can go for a brief walk in 60°F weather
but am not allowed to step out a door when it gets to 40°F or below. My heart would stop just from breathing the cold air into my lungs. Exertion makes me suck in that icy air faster and more deeply and oxygenation is compromised, my heart has to work harder, and it escalates from there. It may not be a storm related death but would certainly be a weather related one. Shoveling snow can be a killer. Snow is only shoveled when it is cold enough to create snow, and it's a lot of lifting, breathing deeply and making your heart work hard.
It's so incredibly unethical that a network would get involved with a divorce and try to influence it, especailly when custody is involved--that their should be laws against it. I understand TLC doesn't have ethics but a law should forbid them from doing that.
If they want to pay for lawyers fine, but you get lawyers for both of the parents. You don't pick a side. Of course Jon is broke and not Kate. She wasn't wiped out from the divorce like a normal parent because she got someone else to pay. There's a huge advantage right there.
Their decision to pick Kate had lasting consequences for this family that will linger for the rest of the children's lives, long after this network is history. They had absolutely no business ever trying to influence it. We know they did. Remember Kate's comment about the divorce, it was decided she would file that particular week? I remember even in the recap I was like, huh, who decided?? TLC?
While I agree The Good Wife has run its course, I do still enjoy it. Revenge on the other hand just wore me out after a couple seasons with its hate and scheming.
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I DVR'd Steve Harvey and some notes;
Jon looked really nervous at first. Steve asked about how the show came about. Jon talked about the Discovery specials, then J+K+8, and how the episodes went from 8, to 12, then to 40 per season/year, and the audience GASPED.
Then Jon said the next year was 52 episodes. Bigger GASP with lots of women shaking their heads.
Jon felt like the crew started to boss them and the kids around to get footage, and that ticked him off. Kate wanted to film more, and Jon wanted to be more of a family.
Regarding being sued by TLC, Jon said he tried to quit, but couldn't. J+K knew they were getting divorced, but TLC wanted them to act married and film. So, Jon quit and lost everything when TLC sided with Kate and paid for everything on her side (lawyers, etc.).
He wanted his kids off tv, and it worked at first because filming went on hiatus (Jon said with a HUGE smile). But, TLC picked up specials, renamed the show and the rest is history.
Regarding Jon's bad press, Jon said basically that he was silenced and his bad boy image was hammered out to the press by TLC, and he was unable to respond because TLC wouldn't let him by threatening to sue.
Steve and Jon both reiterate that in real time, when Jon is reported in the media to be having peccadilloes left and right, his marriage was O-V-E-R, but episodes of them still together were just being seen. Hence, the "cheater" moniker.
So, TLC is airing J+K married, but the tabloids are reporting Jon as a free agent. That controversy meant money for TLC.
Jon talked about his DJ career, just mentioning it briefly.
About any regrets about the show, Jon thinks tv accelerated the divorce. He doesn't regret it because the kids are financially set.
Regarding visitation, we've seen the preview clip about not seeing them all, not co-parenting and not talking to Kate.
Jon gives no reason as to why he doesn't see the one boy and said nothing about getting the court involved.
Jon thinks Kate is mad about Jon quitting, and going from an 11 rating and dropping down to a 2. That limited Kate's tv opportunities.
Jon's learned about trust and being strong, self-supporting and being a good person with a moral compass.
My impression is that Jon has a lot to say and wanted to get as much in as possible during the short segment. I'm utterly baffled as to why he hasn't seen his own child. That doesn't pass the smell test for me.
Maybe we'll find out more when he's free from all ties.
Jon thinks Kate is mad about Jon quitting, and going from an 11 rating and dropping down to a 2. That limited Kate's tv opportunities.
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Heh, I liked that he rubbed in her low ratings.
She knows why they're low. She needs him, and she hates that.
What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
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Was the person hit by a car or did the sun cause the death?
In the case of shoveling, there is a direct correlation between the snow and shoveling and the ensuing fatality, which is why it is counted as a storm-related death. It happened as a result of the storm; a jogging death isn't the result of the sun shining (unless the person jogging was hit by a car because the driver was blinded by the sun).
A mother and her baby died from carbon monoxide while sitting in a car. The husband was clearing the exhaust pipe. Is this a storm-related death? Would they have been in that car with a blocked exhaust pipe if there had been no snow? At what point is *anything* counted as a storm-related fatality if everything can be explained away as would have happened anyway? If someone drowns during a flood while trying to evacuate their home, then it shouldn't be counted as such? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
I don't know, it really doesn't matter, but I do know that SH was aired at 3 and Jon did fine. He told it like it is, and has been pretty much consistent in what he's said over the years, and what I understand to have gone down in this whole TLC thing. You just don't mess with them or they will find a way to get you. He couldn't go up against them; his hands were tied.
I am also glad he didn't get into the whole court battle/custody thing other than saying that he doesn't see all of his kids at once. The legal workings of what is going on, his attorney's fight in all of this is being kept private. No need to air all of that.
Remember Kate's comment about the divorce, it was decided she would file that particular week? I remember even in the recap I was like, huh, who decided?? TLC?
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I remember the dramatic, silent statement at the end of that blockbuster separation episode, which alluded to Jon's behavior forcing Kate to run to the courthouse to file and protect her family from some ill-defined threat.
It was insane and 10 million people got the message: Jon Gosselin is a horrible father and husband. Kate Gosselin is Mama Grizzly protecting her cubs.
I sometimes wonder if Jon could sue TLC for ruining his image with that stunt and more.
I watched the interview on Steve Harvey, and my sympathy for Jon has increased by a thousand fold. That poor man! Robbed of everything and now the salt goes in the wounds every time he goes to the gate to pick up who knows how many of his own kids. Finding out about the son he hasn't seen in 18 months is disturbing. If we feel frustration, how must Jon feel? Thank God he is getting on with his life and he has a life. I agree that TFW is blaming him for her "mediocre" television appearance and rise/fall to stardom. Her only claim to fame is having 8 kids (count 'em) 8 kids and placing their 8 faces on tv. Interesting that they can all 8 be filmed for television, but all 8 cannot visit their father. Jon appears to be genuine and loving. You know TFW cannot stand those qualities! She really has more hate for Jon than love for her kids. They have meant a paycheck for her from day one. That is not motherly love. We, here Admin, have her number and realized a long time ago that there was a lot Jon wasn't telling. Bad enough to have to fight TFW, but to find out she had the TLC network backing her all the way, now that is disgusting!
I can't believe I recognized Brenda in the View audience. She had on full make-up and was waving away at the camera. I bet she influenced the camera person to come film her and her friends.
Long time reader here but rarely post. Just noticed this interesting tweet after SH and wanted to share.
RunnerPa @runner_pa 4h4 hours ago
RunnerPa Retweeted LNP Food + Living
World would clear path to @kateplusmy8 success if she made peace with Jon Gosselin & began 2 coparent. Could be huge
Regarding the picture of Shoka: When I saw that photo my impression was that a woman was sitting on the side of the bed with her feet probably on the ground. To me, it didn't look like Kate, so I assumed it was either the nanny (whom I haven't seen to make a reasoned comparison) or a cleaning lady. Is it really Kate?
Admin said...(70)
Well said. Thanks.
Thanks to all who watched and posted. I still believe Jon is a good guy, and deserves happiness. He was run over by Kreider and her dream machine, TLC. She has tried to bully him out of a relationship with his children. They deserve better, so does he.
Heh, I liked that he rubbed in her low ratings.
She knows why they're low. She needs him, and she hates that.
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Oh boy. The kids better start writing her a lot of comforting notes because she's going to be in a rage tonight. She'll have them rubbing her feet and bringing her meals in bed for days now.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 69
What do you call a death from jogging in cold weather on a wonderful sunny day? A sunny day death?
I give up. A jogging death? 'Cause they were jogging when they died, or were they hit by a bus? That would maybe be called a traffic death?
I'm not sure a jog around the park can be compared to shoveling heavy snow for 2 or 3 hours.
I've got one for you. What do they call a death from jogging on a cold, sunny day while carrying a snow shovel and stopping every block to clear a path?
I don't think deaths from over-exertion should be counted as "storm deaths." They could have died on a treadmill during wonderful weather like Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Just my opinion on how storm statistics are calculated.
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Here's a scenario. A plane crashes and all one hundred people on board are killed. It goes down in a neighborhood where six people also die. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list? They certainly were victims of the crash or are they not counted because they weren't physically on the plane?
Heh, I liked that he rubbed in her low ratings.
She knows why they're low. She needs him, and she hates that.
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Absolutely. Not only does she need him, but he knows that she has failed in everything she has tried to do without the kids.
So old UGGS was on television? No shout-out to her, no applause, no hugs? Better luck next time.
Tucker's Mom said...
I would love for Jon's book to be in part, a take down of TLC and Discovery, and those entities of that ilk that will ruin your life if you dare try and void your contract to attempt to regain what's left of your "normal" life.
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Is there some reason why Jon should not be subjected to the same expectations of fulfilling contracts that the rest of us are? If I don't want to pay my mortgage, should I just stop?
Robert's book made it crystal clear that there were several contracts negotiated, so I don't think that the argument that they didn't have legal advice holds water. If they didn't have an attorney review their later contracts, then that is on them.
I have said it many times--the responsibility of protecting their children belongs to their parents. Period. TLC was perfectly within their rights to protect their investment by enforcing a contract that he signed and profited from. Jon sure didn't have any problem spending the money he received from filming! And, he probably continued to received a salary from them for several years after he stopped filming.
By now, it should be clear that this is a pattern of behavior--he has also allegedly had a lien from the IRS as well as a judgement against him by a previous employer.
Jon may be the more loving parent, but he is not the more responsible one.
And this is where I have to wonder where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC? They had to know that the pull of the show was the "family" dynamic - not Kate and the kids.
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Where were the minds of the people in charge of TLC, indeed! At the time of the divorce, Eileen O'Neill was the Prez of Discovery/TLC and she was VERY pro-TFW to the point of almost unbelievability.
I credit her and her pal Kate Coyne at People for the tag-team destruction job they did on the Gosselin family and especially Jon. Without those 2 women at the helm of 2 powerful media conglomerates, I think the outcome of this whole circus would have been quite different.
Respectfully, it is Kate sans makeup. Scary.
Poor Collin said... 79
RunnerPa @runner_pa 4h4 hours ago
RunnerPa Retweeted LNP Food + Living
World would clear path to @kateplusmy8 success if she made peace with Jon Gosselin & began 2 coparent. Could be huge
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Never going to happen. The only way that situation leads to success is if the coparenting is filmed. Jon is adamant that continued filming is harming the kids. There is no way he would go back on TV and pretend like he and Kate working together is helpful. Besides, everything would have to be done Kate's way. There is no peace with her, only surrender.
PA Dutch Mom said... 64
local, watching it now. At least the mayor stayed away this time!
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Wgal? I looked for that but my fios doesn't carry it
Is there some reason why Jon should not be subjected to the same expectations of fulfilling contracts that the rest of us are? If I don't want to pay my mortgage, should I just stop?
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Jon stopped because the contract was causing severe emotional damage to his children. They were going through a divorce, filming was ramping up, and he could not in good conscience continue. As he explained very clearly he was hoping by him going the kids would piggy back and be out too, which worked for awhile. He got them through the worst of the divorce without cameras, and for that he should have no regrets.
Sometimes you have to break the law or an agreement for the greater good. If there is some much greater good to not paying your mortgage or if it is causing severe damage to someone, then you might consider not paying. This is what ethics is and sometimes the ethical thing wins out over black letter law.
The same could be said for any kind of passive resistence to an agreement or law. I suppose there's no reason someone should take a seat at the front of the bus if the law says they can't, but someone decided to do that because it was the right thing to do. It's no different than anyone breaking the law for a bigger and better purpose, as Jon did.
Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
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Regarding the picture of Shoka: When I saw that photo my impression was that a woman was sitting on the side of the bed with her feet probably on the ground. To me, it didn't look like Kate, so I assumed it was either the nanny (whom I haven't seen to make a reasoned comparison) or a cleaning lady. Is it really Kate?
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I went back to see if she was sitting on the side of the bed. She is sitting up, under the covers, no makeup, with a crazed look on her face with the light of her 509th pink iPhone, twittering away at 7:51 p.m.
WHO OR WHAT was taking care of the kids??
Like Kate or hate her, her parenting comes into question when she doesn't send all 8 of her kids down that long driveway. As a mother she should desire all of her kids have a loving relationship with both parents.
It's as simple as that. Love your kids enough to let them have a relationship with their father. And if something is wrong, do whatever it takes to fix it.
Here's a scenario. A plane crashes and all one hundred people on board are killed. It goes down in a neighborhood where six people also die. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list? They certainly were victims of the crash or are they not counted because they weren't physically on the plane?
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That scenario has actually occurred. They list the death toll as 106 and then break it down into passenger #s and # of people on the ground but all the deaths were the result of the plane crash. ;-)
. Is the death-count from the crash set at 100, or are the other six included in the fatality list?
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Of course they are included. Their deaths are the direct result of the crash. However you do separate them out and say X amount of people died on the ground vs the plane, because that's just part of being accurate.
As I said this was just my opinion, but I believe in separating out direct deaths versus indirect deaths when calculating storm statistics.
Let me put it this way, someone who has a heart condition is at risk of death if they push their heart too much. If they died raking leaves on a chilly autumn day you wouldn't say death by colorful leaves. You would say they died from over-exertion while raking leaves. And yet, we say death by snow storm because there happened to be a blizzard that resulted in them going out and doing some chores that day? That makes no sense. It was death by over-exertion, IMO, and shouldn't be counted.
Actually, people who work in torts agonize over the direct and indirect causes of death and it can be very important to insurance and lawsuits whether a storm really caused someone's death, if it was a contributing factor, or bore no relation at all, as it might to say, a car accident because someone was texting that had nothing to do with the weather (and yet, I bet it's counted).
Ex-nurse, ITA that Jon had to legally uphold his end of the contract. It is what it is and you can't claim ignorance when it comes to contracts. What is sketchy is TLC paying for Kate's divorce attorneys.
I'm curious re: other's opinions. Since Jon's interview aired today, will TFW attempt to make the talk show rounds to refute what Jon said? Would any of the talk shows have her since technically promoting the show? In a way she would be, but it would have to be a highly scripted interview.
Meant to say since she's not technically promoting the show.
Susan1956 does Kate even get invited to interviews anymore?The last one was of Kathy lee gifford and that didn't even last for less then 3 mins.When was the last time she had a full interview?
As a mother she should desire all of her kids have a loving relationship with both parents.
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That's what any sane, loving, selfless parent should desire. That's just not in her heart.
TLC did Jon wrong. Yes, he broke the contract, but TLC waged all-out war on him backing Kate like that.
I'm curious re: other's opinions. Since Jon's interview aired today, will TFW attempt to make the talk show rounds to refute what Jon said?
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If she has any brain cells to rub together (and after that disastrous Today show interview) she will not try to set the record straight.
She'll send Milo and Deanna to make the rounds! lol! One who can't shut up and drools, and one who bobbles. It would be hilarious to watch.
Has this interview been brought up to TFW on her timeline today? Has she tweeted today? If her
kids were home from school because of the snow,
I assumed she'd be on Twitter, to keep herself
distracted from them.
I went back to see if she was sitting on the side of the bed. She is sitting up, under the covers, no makeup, with a crazed look on her face with the light of her 509th pink iPhone, twittering away at 7:51 p.m.
WHO OR WHAT was taking care of the kids??
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How can you see a crazed look on her face? I could barely see that she had a face.
Maybe the kids were with their dad, but at ages 11 and 15, do they really need constant care, even if they were at home?
Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
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Why would anyone make an assumption that he doesn't care if he sees them or not?
And, he probably continued to received a salary from them for several years after he stopped filming.
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Really? Several years? They sued him! From where is this coming?
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Standing ovation to you! TRUTH
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I have to wonder…we just heard that Jon is still working on a book project, and now there's a new interview. Perhaps his book is coming to soon. And I hope he gives TLC what they deserve in his book!
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About any regrets about the show, Jon thinks tv accelerated the divorce. He doesn't regret it because the kids are financially set.
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They might be financially set but the psychological damage that filming has done to them is obvious. It's about the only thing I disagree about with Jon. If they never filmed another episode and Kate managed the money prudently they'd probably stay financially secure until they're all on their own. But we know she has plans to continue until she's a centenarian.
Well, Kate has another sleep-in day tomorrow. No school.
local, yes, the interview was on WGAL at 3.
And, he probably continued to received a salary from them for several years after he stopped filming.
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This is the first time I have heard this. There was so much going on during that time that I couldn't keep up with everything!
They might be financially set but the psychological damage that filming has done to them is obvious. It's about the only thing I disagree about with Jon. If they never filmed another episode and Kate managed the money prudently they'd probably stay financially secure until they're all on their own. But we know she has plans to continue until she's a centenarian.
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I agree.
Even without the show the family would have been fine. Jon and Kate would have to work long hours, and the kids would have to make sacrifices in a smaller house. The kids would have to go to public school but the public schools in the area are fine. They would have to go to daycare instead of having a fancy live in nanny. They would have been fine. Having a lot of kids actually might have been helpful to them because it would qualify them for more discounts and public assistance especially when it comes to higher education.
When all is said and done and these kids are in their 30's and 40's I'd be really surprised if they look back on this experience and are really glad to do it because they got to go to Australia and Florida.
Weren't Bob Marley's last words when he had cancer something that for all the money in the world and here I am dying, what good was it? I remember reading that.
I find it improbable that Jon was paid by TLC after he left the show. They kept paying him while suing him? I have to think that there was a clause in that contract that made it void when he refused to film. TLC isn't a fly by the seat of your pants operation. You know they covered their asses.
you just hit my soul admin. the quote was,,,
Don't gain the world and lose your soul; wisdom is better than silver or gold.
I live by that.
As I said this was just my opinion, but I believe in separating out direct deaths versus indirect deaths when calculating storm statistics.
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But as far as I can tell, you don't consider any of the deaths to be a "direct result" of the storm. Traffic deaths don't count because people die in traffic accidents even without a storm. Death by heart attack when shoveling snow don't count because the people could have overexerted in other ways. Death by carbon monoxide poisoning don't count because furnaces malfunction and cause carbon monoxide deaths anyway. What's left?
If someone falls in a ditch and smothers in the snow, does that count? Falls in a ditch a dies of hypothermia.
I think snow shoveling eats, in particular, are directly attributable to the storm. Yes, those people could have died running on a treadmill, but they don't/didn't. They have enough sense not to overexert themselves when they feel they have a choice.
For years, I did almost all the shoveling to keep our driveway clear while living in a high-snow area. Our typical weather pattern was for snow to start in the afternoon and continue into the small hours of the night. Because of my husband's unusual work hours, I had to shovel it when I got home from work so I could get my car into the driveway. I then shoveled again before I expected him home, so he could get into the driveway. If it was really coming down, I'd shovel in-between to make the last shoveling easier. The one thing I've learned from all that shoveling is to make it a marathon, not a sprint. I use a fairly narrow shovel (I call it a "lady's shovel") so it isn't too hard to lift even if it is full of wet snow. And I shovel SLOWLY, and stop every few minutes to lean on my shovel and look around at how pretty the snow is. And if I get tired, I go inside BEFORE I'M FINISHED and do something else for awhile, then go back out later to finish. With the very worst snow, like with this storm, the plows won't come for a while, so there really no reason to dig like a fiend.
Jon said the last yr they filmed together they did 52 episodes. 52!
They had to film almost every second all year long.Unreal.
All for $$$$$$
I hope Jon is telling the truth that the kids are set-- but what exactly does that mean? College ? Grad school? Set for life??
And its a shame if the kids squander their money on college, because mommy probably thinks any degree would only provide a mediocre life. I guess she thinks the money would be better spent on botox and plastic surgery and hope for lightning to strike twice?? How about mailing a dream and sealing it with a kiss???
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Do we know for sure that the children are financially set? I know that a certain percentage is being held in trust for them but it has also been said that TFW has access to cover their personal expenses.
It seems to me that not only are the children funding her expenses but their expenses can be deducted by her from their trust fund.
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Jane said... 114
I find it improbable that Jon was paid by TLC after he left the show. They kept paying him while suing him? I have to think that there was a clause in that contract that made it void when he refused to film. TLC isn't a fly by the seat of your pants operation. You know they covered their asses.
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I remember the $22,000/mo child support payments being tossed around that Jon had to hand over. I wonder if that was his portion of pay for the shows he had filmed but had not yet aired and he was forced to use his earnings as those payments.
Then all of a sudden he was no longer obliged to pay child support. I wonder if he agreed that if the kids could continue to film he would not have to pay Kate child support. It sort of makes sense IF that's what happened.
The coroner should determine the cause of deaths that happened to occur during a storm, not politicians trying to pad up numbers for funding or news reporters trying to pad numbers for ratings. The coroner usually takes many weeks to release a conclusion.
Ordinarily, a daytime talk show appearance might not be a big deal. But lots of people were home from work today because of the weather, and may have tuned in to Jon's interview.
So tomorrow night is TFW's looking back episode. Expect a steaming pile of lies and insincerity.
Layla said... 109
I have to wonder…we just heard that Jon is still working on a book project, and now there's a new interview. Perhaps his book is coming to soon. And I hope he gives TLC what they deserve in his book!
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Did I read that "his contract is up" or something to that effect regarding Jon? My wishful thinking hopes this refers to some agreement to hold his tongue about anything TLC related. That would be so good if he could finally speak out. But, as someone mentioned above, it may be a book about parenting for divorced dads.
I don't know if we can believe the kids are financially set. When they turn 18, is Kate going to give them any money? For college or otherwise? In one of the Radar Online articles (when the show first started back up), a "source close to Kate" said that she needed to film to put the kids through college. If so, then what happened to their trust fund money? They should be all set for college.
I'd pay anything to be in that room when the kids start asking for their money...
When all is said and done and these kids are in their 30's and 40's I'd be really surprised if they look back on this experience and are really glad to do it because they got to go to Australia and Florida.
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Hopefully by the time they reach that age they'll have figured out that all those memories they were making weren't for the family's posterity but for prosperity -- Mommy's prosperity to be precise.
Hopefully by the time they reach that age they'll have figured out that all those memories they were making weren't for the family's posterity but for prosperity -- Mommy's prosperity to be precise.
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Yeah. I think they're going to figure it out way before then, like I'm talking before the age of 18.
Melissa Francis from Little House on the Prairie figured it out when she was about 16.
The kids are onto her. They're slowly becoming more aware. "Kate Plus Kate" I think was a watershed moment. It shows the kids realize that a lot of this show is about Kate getting to have all the fun. And this is an 11 year old realizing this.
I think Kate knows the jig is up, and I think that's why the kids are out of control because she knows they've got her over a barrel. She has no motivation to control them or upset them or restrict them. She has every motive to let them run the show.
My recollection was that Jon had to pay $21,000/month in child support up until around the time that the contract with TLC lapsed. If he hadn't drawn a paycheck since he stopped filming in summer of 2009, how could the courts have levied that amount of child support? Also, I know from personal business experience that many non-competes are compensated in some way. That would strengthen TLC's case. I might be wrong, but that is my opinion. I might be wrong on the timeline, but I remember the reduction coinciding with the lapsed contract date.
As far as the greater good argument, it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film. So, so much for the greater good. He was apparently all about ethics when he thought had a great media future. Not so much when those opportunities evaporated. Some may not believe that, but I do. If Jon had half of the character and integrity that many here ascribe to him, the kids would be a lot better off. I wish I could see him this way, but I don't. I don't care enough about this to spend any time on research. Why he has dragged this up out of the past is beyond me.
If he hadn't drawn a paycheck since he stopped filming in summer of 2009, how could the courts have levied that amount of child support?
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We weren't there when the support was calculated. But it makes all the sense in the world if you understand child support, because the courts usually base child support on what you "could" earn or are supposed to earn. Not always what you actually earn.
In general this is a good thing, because it prevents a doctor from quitting and getting a job at McDonalds in order to avoid huge child support payments. It prevents parents from being sneaky and gaming the system. In this case however, Jon didn't want to be on TV anymore, which for him meant an IT salary, not 22k a month.
However the courts may not have cared he didn't want to do TV anymore no more than they would care if a doctor didn't want to practice medicine anymore.
I see some of the sheeple are harassing Steve Harvey because of Jon's interview. One of them is tweeting him links to old articles about Jon.
Another said that it's a lawsuit waiting to happen and hopes that TLC watched the interview.
Milo, of course, said it was all lies and hopes TLC took notice.
You can read their convo here:
https://twitter.com/MiloandJack/status/691796219862081539
They're the ones that complain when the haters harass anyone that has anything to do with Kate, yet they're doing exactly the same thing. What a bunch of hypocrites.
The sheeple got off easy. Jon avoided really laying into Kate and deflected blame onto TLC.
They can't take to the defense of Kate AND TLC, that's too much.
jamezvader1194 said... 100
Susan1956 does Kate even get invited to interviews anymore?The last one was of Kathy lee gifford and that didn't even last for less then 3 mins.When was the last time she had a full interview?
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I really can't remember the last time she had a full interview. The only reason she was on the Today Show was to promote the new season of the show. Other than that, she's really so 2009 and the mainstream media as well as a major portion of the public appear to be over her. I don't think she'll ever be invited to be a guest co-host on a talk show again. She's done CWS & CA--what other reality shows are left? All she has is her own show and I agree with admin that she is probably sweating bullets waiting to see the ratings for the last episode tomorrow and whether TLC will want more specials.
If Jon's custody lawyer is worth his or her salt, the interview with Steve Harvey may be one of the first steps towards enforcing visitation with all of the kids.
As far as the greater good argument, it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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Are you talking about the settlement in the TLC lawsuit, or his not paying child support? The latter was started by someone who threw it out there and the rumor spread and took off on wings of its own.
It was never confirmed, nor proven, nor anything else that Kate relieved Jon of paying child support because he agreed to sell his kids to TLC so that they could continue filming.
it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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It was widely speculated. In fact, such an arrangement would be illegal in most states including PA. You are not allowed to "negotiate away" child support, nor should you. That is because child support is in the best interest of the children, not the parents, and is not to be used as a bargaining chip like a house or a car. If a mother, or father, could say I won't make you pay child support if you agree to do this or not to do this or give me this or whatever, family courts would be chaos and terrible for children.
I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won.
Poor Steve Harvey. The fallout from his Miss Universe gaffe is nothing compared to having to
deal with TFW's intellectually-challenged fans!
Milo is doing PR for the final episode hoping her Katie Irene gets a renewal so Milo can continue her CWS.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
TUES.10pm A wiser @Kateplusmy8 goes back N time 2evaluate those "Did I do that?" mom moments! LOL Can't wait to see this! #Parenting @TLC
Milo is acting like this is America's Funniest Home Vidoes, not Kate being a bitch to her children.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 133
it was widely reported that his settlement with TLC resulted in the suit being dropped in return for allowing the kids to film
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I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won.
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Hmmm kind of like a SLAAP (or is it SLAPP) suit
Tucker's Mom said... 76
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I remember the dramatic, silent statement at the end of that blockbuster separation episode, which alluded to Jon's behavior forcing Kate to run to the courthouse to file and protect her family from some ill-defined threat.
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And didn't she tell that story shortly after that while she was sitting in the back of a boat on her way to Bald Head Island with Steve in tow? Something about her being 'advised' to file for divorce? Am I remembering that correctly?
Hmmm will the gumgate be included tomorrow? How about Joelgate, or laundryroomfloorgate?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
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Milo, can't you say DAMAGE CONTROL? Go ahead, use your words. snap snap
I think Harvey is wise not to engage with the sheep.I've heard Steve is big on children's rights and I'd bet he can take care of himself when it comes to Jon haters.
Katie...was your neighbor like this? https://www.facebook.com/robbie.c.davidson/posts/10206917153181027?comment_id=10206923002207249&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment_reply
Ya'll will be glad to know Deck Dude has answered Kate's question:
"Totally safe 2 leave it there; won't hurt anything.
But if you want gone, use a plastic edged shovel."
Will there be eye poking and dabbing tomorrow night as TFW pretends to have learned and grown
as a mom? How many takes will they have to shoot before she's able to generate tears?
The thing with learning and growth is that you have to work at it. And TFW doesn't do work.
She says and does what she has to, when she has to, to get what she wants.
As I said Admin..., franky...oopps, a delete button?
you just hit my soul admin. the quote was,,,
Copied, ready
to paste
Don't gain the world and lose your soul; wisdom is better than silver or gold.
I live by that.
@susan1956 Now if only TLC would take the hint as well.As far as this last episode.Since its another look back episode.Im going to say low views cause they usually don't get high numbers.Though i could be wrong.
Hmmm kind of like a SLAAP (or is it SLAPP) suit
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Speaking of SLAPP suits, I went to Via View and could make neither heads nor tails out of that. I am really out of the loop. What I could figure out is that BV has been hit with sanctions, but do any of those lawsuits have anything to do with the class action suit that he allegedly promised the sheeple?
Poor Steve Harvey. The fallout from his Miss Universe gaffe is nothing compared to having to
deal with TFW's intellectually-challenged fans!
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I bet he read a few of them and thought to himself, "Who or what are these nutjobs and how incredibly stupid are they?"
Let 'em go. They are just confirming what we've known all along. They are among the dumbest sheep ever to graze in the barnyard. They continue to show that there isn't a lick of intelligence there. I was just reading some tweets from a fan who is perhaps one of the top six most "intellectually challenged" to ever show up on Kate's TL. You almost have to feel sorry for them.
"Totally safe 2 leave it there; won't hurt anything.
But if you want gone, use a plastic edged shovel."
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At least he didn't tell her to use a plastic spoon (or a wooden one). Now that would have been funny. Ouch.
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
Like a gazillion parents haven't lit up now and again. The pearl clutching was so inauthentic and stupid. Over pot? California Court of Appeal has virtually said family courts may **not*** intervene in parents who smoke marijuana, it's not child abuse and you have no business saying so.
I'm glad the deck dude thinks a ton of snow on the deck is safe. Hopefully that's based on the opinion of an engineer and pounds per inch science. It just occurred to me that once that snow melts through all the floor boards it's going to make a wet, soppy mud pit below the deck. What a mess.
franky... you've come back.
Jeanelle Shilling @jkshilli 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 loved the episode of your blind date! So much fun! But, Did he have a ring on his left hand when he shut the limo door?
Geez. Yes, he wasn't wearing it for the date. He just put the ring on the finger when he closed the limo door so there would be a close-up and viewers could speculate what kind of a ring it was. He removed it after that shot.
Silly sheep are just so, well...silly!
Sheepless In Seattle said... 152
Jeanelle Shilling @jkshilli 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 loved the episode of your blind date! So much fun! But, Did he have a ring on his left hand when he shut the limo door?
Geez. Yes, he wasn't wearing it for the date. He just put the ring on the finger when he closed the limo door so there would be a close-up and viewers could speculate what kind of a ring it was. He removed it after that shot.
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OMG, is that for real? The ring thing was a deliberate fake-out to viewers? Or were you just being ironic? I didn't watch so I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to throw a cheap shot like that in there, just to heighten the speculation.
Jolie... yes, only because of this... THIS IS MY MARLEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlk9Sj4Ns2k&list=RDnlk9Sj4Ns2k#t=0
and this is Yours...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlk9Sj4Ns2k&list=RDnlk9Sj4Ns2k#t=0
do we see paradymes?
yeah, franky...
and Bob.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGqrvn3q1oo&index=7&list=RDnlk9Sj4Ns2k
thanks for remembe3ring me
FRANKY~
You do realize a few here read at the other place?
Takes all kinds I guess. Enough said!
Sandi said... 155
FRANKY~
You do realize a few here read at the other place?
Takes all kinds I guess. Enough said!
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What? Explain, please!
OMG, is that for real? The ring thing was a deliberate fake-out to viewers? Or were you just being ironic? I didn't watch so I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to throw a cheap shot like that in there, just to heighten the speculation.
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It was snark on my part. Sorry about that! I was poking at the silliness of a sheep's tweet.
Susan1956 said... 131
She's done CWS & CA--what other reality shows are left?
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I don't think it would ever happen, but I'd love to see her on "Wipeout".
Franky? You need an explanation?
Good read~
Jan 21,2016
8:07 PM
8:08 PM
9:22 PM
10:~~~~Oh what the heck, just keep on trucking!
I'm sure you have directions to "that other place"!
I'm glad the deck dude thinks a ton of snow on the deck is safe. Hopefully that's based on the opinion of an engineer and pounds per inch science.
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Yes, I hope so, too. He should come over here and see the roofs on commercial buildings that have collapsed, even though they were supported by steel beams. Decks, too have collapsed, but maybe those weren't built by the Deckmeister.
Math Girl said... 158
Susan1956 said... 131
She's done CWS & CA--what other reality shows are left?
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I don't think it would ever happen, but I'd love to see her on "Wipeout"
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I'd love to see her on Celebrity Jeopardy. And not the Saturday Night Live version.
Sandie, yes, I do.
I, franky have never been afraid of that, if you want, I am not hard to find, I just vet others, because we R CANADIAN me anytime =P , pm me anytime, I will vet u
You do realize I never, nor do my friends capitalize my name...TROLLL ALERT!!!
THE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT MY NAME, sory for locks caps...
No way to replicate IT... boooyahhh!!!!
I wasn't talking about child support. It was widely reported that his settlement with TLC was that he agreed to let them be filmed, and, in exchange, TLC dropped the lawsuit.
Admin said....
I think what really happened is that TLC and Kate decided they were going to plow forward with filming anyway, knowing Jon would have to fight them forever and spend money he didn't have. They gambled on him not being able to stop it, and won.
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If this is what happened, why did TLC drop the lawsuit. Are you saying that there was nothing asked in exchange from Jon?
If this is what happened, why did TLC drop the lawsuit.
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They didn't drop the lawsuit. They reached a settlement. Huge difference. For all we know the settlement was Jon agreeing not to sue them if they agree to not sue him.
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms.
sandi, this is fie you, I hope you enjoy it as I did , as Did Heather9on her (deathbed)
My hope is you never have to do what I am now...but I pray you will have too because she remembers you. remember all the songs...=)
I am missing something here. What is a Tuscan DeeAnna?
Jessa Wilson @katesbusted 42m42 minutes ago
@finndango @bitemeaholesFU @Sassccha @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I think Milo is a sickO & maybe she is Tuscan DeeAnna!
rainbowsandunicorns said... 106
Why is Jon not FORCING Kate to make sure he sees all the kids? Call the cops if she holds one back. If I were C or the twins I'd feel bad that my Daddy doesn't care if he sees me or not.
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Why would anyone make an assumption that he doesn't care if he sees them or not?
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Because they are children and they already have emotional problems on top of everything else.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 149
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
Like a gazillion parents haven't lit up now and again.
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That includes the Prime Minister of Canada. There was much pearl-clutching by the Conservatives, but this was well known before the latest election, and he was elected PM anyway.
See:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08/22/justin-trudeau-marijuana-mp_n_3792208.html
Ex Nurse, I don't know that I would say either Jon or Kate was the more responsible parent. I don't know enough. But his lack of responsibility with money should not mean he doesn't see his kids. He has shelter, he can feed them. As far as I know, he's never claimed he can't handle having them all visit at once.
This is what I understand of the money after the divorce. There was a bunch of back and forth about who took what money out of which account. Eventually, Jon was given a lump sum as part of the divorce (common in division of assets). Somehow Kate's lawyer got the court to order the $20,000 (or whatever exact amount) per month in child support. This went on until Jon had paid back all of his lump sum and was broke. Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000. Kate and Jon appear from Robert's book and other sources to have been paid per episode, not a fixed salary. Since Jon wasn't in any more episodes, I don't believe TLC would have paid him anything.
I don't believe Jon can change anything. Kate has money and TLC has more money and their judge appears to respond to that. When they are older Jon can try to see everyone but other than that he's screwed. The police have helped Kate break the law for years (according to Robert's book). They won't help now.
this is a lot of us, on sunny days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc
ps, I am red Hat, bro is yellow, dd is green...... NOW LOOK!
crap, I said FRANKY is not me..., listening to this..jolie Jacquelyn said... jolie Jacquelyn said... 151
franky... you've come back.
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Deckmeister decks are so good!
Not like lame ones made of wood!
Let the snow fall 20 feet
Then cover it with ice and sleet.
Deckmeister's decks won't know or care
While they hover in mid-air.
Well there's a marathon most of the day on tlc , guess what the 8 get to do on their snow day off?
Gah she is just the worst.
I don't believe Jon can change anything. Kate has money and TLC has more money and their judge appears to respond to that. When they are older Jon can try to see everyone but other than that he's screwed. The police have helped Kate break the law for years (according to Robert's book). They won't help now.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but if the court awards Jon his one night per week and every other Fri-Mon, then it doesn't matter who the police side with. The police are there to enforce the court order. All Jon has to do is call.
Jon called the police and they responded when Kate tried to enter the compound when it was his time there with the kids. I don't see how its any different when Jon pulls up to the gate and not all the kids are produced by Kate.
That's her court-ordered duty.
Remember the report (by Robert?) that the kids all staged a sit-in when Jon tried to get them in the van to go back to Kate's? He had to get those kids back and he did. They didn't want to go, but too bad, so sad. They had to and Jon complied.
He didn't say, "Oh, sorry, Kate, Hannah and Joel didn't want to go back. You get what you get.".
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms.
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That speculation has taken on a life of its own and is now bandied about as fact, even by publications (such that they are).
I'd love to see her on Celebrity Jeopardy. And not the Saturday Night Live version.
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I love when Will Ferrell does Alex Trebek and would love to see what he'd say to Kate's character.
I remember when Taylor Swift played Kate on SNL. Not flattering.
I am sick and tired of the repeat as fact that Jon gave up his custody rights. It's false. He is suppose to see the kids every other weekend and dinner one night a week. He has custody rights.
I agree with Admin that the likely scenario was that Kate and TLC continue with filming because Jon does not have the money to fight. A master plan that has worked brilliantly, IMO.
As far as Jon producing a book, that is wishful thinking. He probably has everything written down, though. My guess he will be sued by Discovery if he released a book.
I think many of us have checked out other blogs.
'Nuff said.
TLC stinks said......
I am sick and tired of the repeat as fact that Jon gave up his custody rights. It's false.
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I agree! So much is confidential and we simply don't know!
And separate from custody agreement, TLC sued Jon for breach of contract, also confidential. They settled.
I have to add, idiot busybodies like Goody and Milo throw their gossip and innuendo out there, shoompey doesn't say a word, so they star to believe themselves.
Kate will never take the high road to demand her sheep not discuss such things, their lies serve her purpose.
Jillygee (#168), oh, TFW must be in heaven with a TLC marathon on today. If only she wasn't saddled with her 8 little moneymakers at home with her, it would be her idea of a perfect day. Maybe she'll start her tweet party early, so she won't have to be bothered with them.
Reader (#174), I can just imagine TFW's Grinchy grin as she reads her fans' gossip and innuendo about her ex. They're doing her dirty work for her, and it doesn't cost her a dime. She's like Tom Sawyer getting the kids to whitewash the fence.
C'mon, guys, join the fun! Do it do it do it!
Deckmeister decks are so good!
Not like lame ones made of wood!
Let the snow fall 20 feet
Then cover it with ice and sleet.
Deckmeister's decks won't know or care
While they hover in mid-air.
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Baw!
Post script:
DeckDude Matt will make your day
He even serves the gays!
It was never confirmed, nor proven, nor anything else that Kate relieved Jon of paying child support because he agreed to sell his kids to TLC so that they could continue filming.
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The sheep take the kids filming as fait accompli that Jon bargained away paying child support. Well, it just goes to their low-information nature and lack of critical thinking skills.
Of course, Kate would never, ever disabuse them of the notion.
Seems immoral, evil really that TLC took care of Kate's divorce with their very deep pockets. God, she really just came in, took from Jon and his family, took from everyone, his 20's spent changing diapers, baths, feedings, and when he has 2nd thoughts about the filiming, the church love offerings, (and I suspect watching friends back away) Bam! He's hit on the head with a divorce and then lawsuit, both funded by TLC.
Woman is a monster.
During the Steve Harvey interview, I liked how Jon addressed whether or not the show caused the divorce. He said it accelerated the demise of their marriage, but credited other factors.
I think that's honest.
Kate acts like they were inevitably doomed, and completely eschews the show's role in breaking them up.
Further, Kate constantly puts Jon down by basically calling him a mistake, and saying she needs to do better next time.
It's nasty, immature and abusive to her kids to speak of their father like that.
I think that most of the kids will have big, big problems with Kate when they realize how she manipulated their feelings and regard for Jon.
Further, Kate constantly puts Jon down by basically calling him a mistake, and saying she needs to do better next time.
It's nasty, immature and abusive to her kids to speak of their father like that.
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That's one of the big things she really needs to stop. It's terrible to say that when your children will hear it.
Imagine if Jon said that about her, he should have/could have done better. Her feelings would be hurt and she darn well knows it, and it would hurt the children too. It's not nice and does nothing to foster a better relationship with your ex or to calm the cloud of bitterness around your children.
Hmmmm....makes you wonder what TLC is trying to hide. Or what he was doing for the FRC that he needs to be kept private. Curiouser and curiouser.
From ROL: (bolding is mine)
In other news related to the case, both attorneys both signed confidentiality agreements, swearing the porn star’s counsel would keep her alleged abuser’s text messages, email, financial records and photographs private from even Dillon herself.
Admin (#181), and it's preposterous for TFW to say those things about her marriage being a mistake, after she's crowed about being the one who "keeps the peace." So many awful things that are on the record, and which her children will eventually watch, read, or hear. All evidence of her being a piss poor parent.
OT. A little humor for a Tuesday.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/26/hound-dog-sneaks-into-half-marathon-field-finishes-seventh/
FlimsyFlamsy said... 176
She's like Tom Sawyer getting the kids to whitewash the fence.
C'mon, guys, join the fun! Do it do it do it!
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From what her brother Kevin said, she's been doing that her whole life. He said she'd get him to do her chores for her when she still lived at home. It's an art form with Kate. Good grief, she somehow even managed to get Leeza Gibbons to take over her CA project.
Jeanne said.....
Ex Nurse, I don't know that I would say either Jon or Kate was the more responsible parent. I don't know enough. But his lack of responsibility with money should not mean he doesn't see his kids. He has shelter, he can feed them. As far as I know, he's never claimed he can't handle having them all visit at once.
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I didn't say anything about whether he is capable of having all of the kids at once--I was talking about his breaking the contract.
As far as filming goes--on SH, he said that he succeeded in shutting down the filming. But then, after the settlement, magically, filming was resumed again. There have been much bigger leaps of logic made, here when it comes to Kate. Anyway, as I said, it is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary (if it was not already stipulated in the contract).
Also, Jeanne, both Jon and Kate have said that Jon was relieved of child support, other than what he provides for his custody time. So, according to the custody schedule.
BTW, their custody schedule gives Jon 36% custody and Kate has 64%, if, Jon is given full credit of a day for his dinner nights.
Rhymes with Witch said... 184
OT. A little humor for a Tuesday.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/26/hound-dog-sneaks-into-half-marathon-field-finishes-seventh/
I saw that! Isn't it funny! I think she must have been tracking all the scents! I love this line by the owner:
The fact that she ran 13.1 miles did take her aback, however. “She’s laid back and friendly, so I can’t believe she ran the whole half-marathon because she’s actually really lazy,” said Hamlin,
From Jon's instagram comments (re: the Steve Harvey interview):
xxxxcon_incHi Jon, I just watched your interview... You stated you hadn't seen your son in over a year... You get to see all the kids but one? Can't the court order Kate to allow you to see all your kids? It saddens me that you only see four at a time.
dj_jon_gosselinYou think that would be the norm, but not in this case!
I know I get frustrated, but really my frustration is for Jon, not at Jon. Evidently, there's more to the story about why Jon doesn't see his child.
Rhymes with Witch said... 184
OT. A little humor for a Tuesday.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/26/hound-dog-sneaks-into-half-marathon-field-finishes-seventh/
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The "Hound Dog Half"!
If that doesn't show how dogs are pack animals, I don't know what does.
Kindof surprised Franky would post her again after given the other blog owner an EARFUL about the admin. I was under the impression we here were haters and miserable awful people.
Although I have learned some things about the folks who post in both places.
Janice
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