Did Adnan kill Hae? You decide over the course of 12 engrossing episodes.
Some questions to ponder:
- How much can you remember about what you did six weeks ago, on November 6, 2014?
- Is Adnan a smooth talking sociopath who has charmed narrator Sarah Koenig or is he actually who he says?
- What about that phone call to Adnan's then girlfriend the day of the murder?
- Was the investigation botched?
- If Adnan didn't kill Hae, who did?
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 861 Newer› Newest»Lol, the Funny or Die thing was great.
They had their voices down. "I do a podcast it was supposed to be for four people!"
Haha and Mail Chimp.
My sister got me hooked on this serial somewhere around the 7th or 8th episode. I binged to catch up, then eagerly waited for each successive Thursday. From the first to the last, I listened with full attention. How excellent!!
And how perfect the final episode. I wondered if I would feel cheated, if Sarah would bother to try to wrap things up. It was handled perfectly, in my opinion. I will wait for the next series as eagerly as I used to wait for Christmas morning. Bring it on!!!
Oh, barf!
Kate Coyne@KatePeople·6 mins6 minutes ago
Halfway thru the #PEOPLEMagazineAwards and here's what we've learned: Jon, Kevin and Lisa are hilarious and women named Kate are gorgeous.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·5 mins5 minutes ago
@KatePeople duh....lol!:)
Kate Coyne@KatePeople·3 mins3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Hardly big news in our houses, of course! Loved seeing the promos for @TheApprentice9!!
@WendyWilliams: . @realDonaldTrump weighs in on Sony's decision to pull "The Interview" from theaters.
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/12/18/donald-trump-the-interview/
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If anyone is interested in seeing the W Williams/d Trump interview you can access it on the link above. The CA talk starts at about the 5:45 mark.
From previous thread...
FYI: James McGibney CEO of Bullyville. Knight in Shining Armor to Kate Gosselin and the self styled King of the Internet is begging for rent money. A Go-Fund me account has been set up (laughing my arse off as l type this) and the magnificent sum thus far is approx $200. Waiting to see how much Kate Gosselin throws in for her old pal & cyber bullyguard.
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I hear the detective donated fifty bucks. It's that quite the turn-around? He was promising the sheeple mega-millions, and now they donate to his cause? Laughing my rear end off here, too!
Does Milo know that Coyne is her competition when it comes to lusting after Kate?
I don't understand Kate Coyne. She must meet lots of celebrities. Yet she worships Kate? It's confusing.
I'm sure the defective detective is stunned by the James McGibney defeat. I think she really looked to him to vindicate her life's work of defending Kate and saving screenshots. Now what is she supposed to do? Who will help her take down all those horrible people who have said bad things about Kate?
Hey, Kate won the People Award for Celebrity Role Model of the Year!! Not Kate GOSSELIN, though, Kate HUDSON!
I wonder if Milo was watching. She probably was all hyped thinking her Katie was going to win it. And another Kate(Upton) won Sexiest Woman Alive. Milo must have been so disappointed.
Poor Kate G., even People doesn't know how to help her.
Of course, Milo again butts into the convo between Kate and Kate Coyne.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 @KatePeople Well...just my opinion, but YOU definitely could have given a better acceptance speech!! #KateUpton :)
Jon just spilled his kid's Christmas wishes to a Bonnie Fuller and her gossip tabloid website. What an ass.
Can these children not have ONE parent who they can trust to stfu? Also, he's hired a personal trainer and nutritionist. Yeah, Jon. That's the way to spend your money. RIDICULOUS and disappointing.
I don't understand Kate Coyne. She must meet lots of celebrities. Yet she worships Kate? It's confusing.
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Lust. Pure, unadulterated lust.
Another one. Is there no end to this?
https://tv.yahoo.com/news/cosby-accuser-says-she-blacked-2-days-comedian-025336107.html
I hear the detective donated fifty bucks. It's that quite the turn-around? He was promising the sheeple mega-millions, and now they donate to his cause? Laughing my rear end off here, too!
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Oh that really is great. What a con artist.
HE's like the old snake oil salesmen of yesteryear who are just here to help YOU. After you pay them two bits of course. And while you're handing over the coin they've got their hand fishing around pick pocketing you.
Gosh the creeple are dumb. Dweeple.
Would Serial be a good binge listen while wrapping Christmas presents and decorating the tree?
Other good shows:
Survivor season 29 (!) Had a fantastic ending!
American Horror Story: Freak Show wrapped up last night, I am waiting to watch until dd and I can watch together.
SyFy miniseries Ascension was really intriguing premise, entertaining, and would be cool series or another mini series.
Amazing Race finale Friday!
TFMJG is still boring.
Would Serial be a good binge listen while wrapping Christmas presents and decorating the tree?
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If you're not the type whose Christmas spirit is brought down by the subject matter, sure!
HE's like the old snake oil salesmen of yesteryear who are just here to help YOU. After you pay them two bits of course. And while you're handing over the coin they've got their hand fishing around pick pocketing you.
Gosh the creeple are dumb. Dweeple.
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I guess he was a master at pulling the wool over their eyes, if only for a little while. I don't know everything that's going on, but from the little bit that I do know, it sounds like he is in deep sheep doo-doo.
Jon just spilled his kid's Christmas wishes to a Bonnie Fuller and her gossip tabloid website. What an ass.
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Huh? Celebs are asked all the time what their kids wants for Christmas, what they're getting them, how they celebrate, etc.
My narcissist was. She answered. iPhones or iPods, I can't remember what was said. Who cares.
It's great to hear that he's getting them Christmas eve and the last week in December. It makes sense it's his turn, since Kate got them for Thanksgiving.
Jon's not a celebrity. Big difference. Or is he done being a private person? Just because they asked doesn't mean he should answer. It's gross.
Huh? Celebs are asked all the time what their kids wants for Christmas, what they're getting them, how they celebrate, etc.
My narcissist was. She answered. iPhones or iPods, I can't remember what was said. Who cares.
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Yes, and I remember last year that a few sites published the Christmas lists of about 12 or so celeb kids. I remember that one little girl only wanted a Doc McStuffins wellness center (even though the parents could have afforded to purchased a whole darn hospital), and another said he wanted money to give to the sick kids in hospitals to make them better. I remember thinking at the time, aw!
So he hired a nutritionist. He doesn't have to answer to anyone about how his money is spent, and I really doubt that he cares he doesn't have 100 percent public approval.
Wait a minute - the sheeple and the tabs claim he is homeless and unemployed. Does that mean he's living in his car at the fitness center and the trainer is doing this as a Christmas gift for him?
Here's the link to the article re Jon, for those interested.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/12/18/jon-gosselin-kids-holiday-plans-kate-plus-8/
PJ
I'm just not getting what's gross about it. There is a lot of things that should be kept quiet about children. This does not strike me as one of them. I think it's kind of cute and interesting to hear what kids these days are into. I don't see how any child would feel violated to have a parent talk about it. In fact they probably would support spreading the news as widely as possible LOL.
Actually url Jon didnt spill their lists at all. He gave generalizations and didn't name specific kids. I really don't see anything wrong with hat he said. As far as having a nutritionist and a trainer? Who really cares. It pales in comparison to all the "people" TFW has.
“The boys want Nerf Guns and outdoor stuff. Headsets for their walkie talkies and XBOX [and] the girls want iPhone accessories, jewelry and clothes. The twins want gift cards for shopping,” Jon reveals exclusively to HollywoodLife.com.
This blog and all the posters here have shared so many interesting sites, books, recipes, topics, I just want to say the virtual verandah is great! I have been catching up on the viaviewfiles.WordPress site, and without this site mcgiblets would not even be on my radar. Reading about the legal maneuverings is fascinating.
Also love the recipes and have a request. back in the summer someone shared a never fail banana bread recipe that used sour cream, does anyone have that or a link to the post it was in? Thanks in advance!
I'm no Jon fan lately but I think its great he has a trainer and a nutritionist. A lot of people have trainers at their fitness center; no big deal. And a lot of people have trouble losing weight and maintaining it on their own. The nutritionist may have been a referral fri a doc especially if he developed high bloodpressurebor diabetes and it may be covered through insurance . I sy goo for him.
I thought it was a cute little nothing article. He didn't bash his ex (ahem); he didn't reveal anything particularly private (cough, cough), didn't say he should be cut a bunch of slack on whatever because he was the dad of 8.
I think that it is wonderful that Jon quit smoking, is eating healthier and has someone to help him get more fit. He will be in much greater shape and mind when TFW's down fall comes. Jon saying what the kids want for Christmas was ok. Sounds like he has everything bought or maybe have some shopping left and has everything under control.
I noticed in the sticky buns picture way in the back on the left on the floor looks like a big box wrapped in green or red solid paper with silver on it with a big red bow and another gift beside it. I hope those are real presents and not fake. I think she bought the pans, baked canned cinnamon rolls and rolled out that dough to make everyone think that she slaved over a hot oven. Notice there is no flour on the wooden roller. Another gate! Sticky Bun Gate!
Can someone please post link (that actually works) to McGiblet's Gofundme webpage. Thanks.
There may be some new readers here because of Celeb Apprentice or new specials. Here is a handy guide to commonly used acronyms on this blog.
Kate Gosselin = TFW The Former Wife = TFMJG The Former Mrs Jon Gosselin = TCFW The Former Crazy Wife = WOS Waste Of Space (what TFW called the Grand Canyon) = Katie Irene Kreider (Kate Gosselin s maiden name) = the warden
Kate Gosselin s home = The Orphanage = Shawshank (and if you can't figure out why, see the celeb wife swap recap)
Steve Nield = the boobyguard = TFM The Flying Monkey = Purse Boy = Rat Claws
Representative Thomas P. Murt, (who we like a LOT!) member of Pennsylvania House of Representatives, who has worked on legislation to strengthen Pennsylvania child labor laws and include protection for children in entertainment. (Dance Moms and Jon and Kate plus 8 film in Pennsylvania)
please add any acronyms I left off the list
If the lady who said that she woke up 2 days later after being drugged by BC, it is a miracle she didn't die. Can't believe that his professional peers haven't come out and taken up for him. Even Hugh Hefner has cut his friendship off with him. Hugh Hefner will be 89 years old in April.
TFW will be 40 in 99 days. 99 days of grifting on the timeline wall, 99 days of freebies, post a tweet, pass it around, 98 days of grifting to go!
I also appreciate that Jon has taken it upon himself to know exactly what his children are into and would like as gifts. And it sounds like things are back on between him and the twins because he seems to know exactly what they want.
You ask a lot of fathers what their kids are into and they don't really know. They are stumped when it comes to Christmas shopping. Mothers too for that matter. A lot of people don't REALLY know their kids. Jon has always demonstrated a sincere interest in his children's INDIVIDUAL needs wants, likes and dislikes, and his children will appreciate that someday.
As for personal trainers, yes it's pretty popular right now. All the major gyms have personal trainer "packages". It's actually a pretty good deal. I think at 24 hour where I used to go they had like 10 or 12 session packages for a pretty reasonable price. People don't necessarily mean they have some kind of Hollywood superstar working with them when they say personal trainer. Usually it's just some 20 something with a sports medicine degree making 17 bucks an hour at 24, not that they would be a bad trainer at all. Sometimes it can rather mean they paid 24 Hour 120 bucks and that was that.
I don't think what Jon said was bad; it only gives the impression of the kids and Kate not piecing and patching ( obviously they have iPhones and x-box is a realistic expectation) but no big deal. But by saying he has a personal trainer and nutritionist, he is also saying he is doing ok, and hopefully the homeless rumors are put to rest.He did some repair work on his reputation.Nice the kids will spend some holiday time with Jon.
One of my friends was very overweight and got a personal trainer a few years ago, now that I think of it. I remember some people were balking at the expense of it. But I think she had a good point that what she's paying for that is nothing if it means she is adding years to her life. How much is one year worth to you? Two? Three? Ten?
She has lost over 100 pounds between that and eating healthy, it's really a blessing.
Jon getting into better physical shape may make him a better
father. Can't say that about any of TFW's cosmetic enhancements.
Regarding the defective detetive - according to court documents she styles herself as "the innocent married mother of three children". Many disagree with the "innocent" part of that description.
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Jon's haters may resent the expense of a trainer/nutritionist, but have absolutely no issue with all the crap Kate spends to make herself "feel better".There's a pretty long list just starting with all the cosmetic procedures and ending with the fake tanning and everything in between. She probably has her own personal trainer as well.
To the person who thinks Jon is an ass for spilling the beans on presents, he is not. As many here have said, a lot of celebs will generalize what their kids want, and yes, Jon does know what his kids are into, which means YES, he does see his kids, contrary to what Kate & TLC, and the sheeple are trying to put out there. That Kate does it alone.
As for Jon getting a trainer & seeing a nutritionist, good for him. Did it ever occur to the some people here that Jon just recently went to the Doctor and was told he has some medical issues, and that he needs to take care of, one of them is losing weight. And yes, most insurances do cover nutritionists, as for a trainer, it's probably included in a exercise package. So kudos to Jon, who is worrying about his health. And YES , what Jon does with his money is his business, which means he is taking care of his kids, and he is not homeless.
Compare Jon knowing each child's interests, to TFW not knowing whether or not J liked basketball. They may spend "99%" of their
time with her, but that doesn't mean she has a clue what they're
into.
Jon's haters may resent the expense of a trainer/nutritionist, but have absolutely no issue with all the crap Kate spends to make herself "feel better".
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Kate should have gotten a personal trainer to help her with her running and nutrition, because she was awful at it.
Frankly I'd rather somebody be helping her because she doesn't know what she's doing. There is nothing wrong with asking for, and paying for, help when it comes to your body and nutrition. Most people spend money on their body and nutrition, be it makeup or supplements or gym memberships, diets or paying for an actual person to help you. I don't see that it matters HOW you're spending your money on your body. We almost all spend in this area. Your health is a GOOD area to spend money on, not a bad one.
They may spend "99%" of their
time with her, but that doesn't mean she has a clue what they're
into.
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That's probably because she's too busy talking about herself and receiving their praise and inflating her ego for her to bother to ask what they want or are into. Do I believe she really knows these kids? Nope.
Jon is the kind of parent that wants to be around his children because they are fun to get to know on a very deep level and have a beautiful parent-child relationship with because that's just part of really LIVING. His interest in his children does not appear to center around how they make HIM feel about his ego.
If your physician told you that you have to get fit due to medical issues, the gym membership can even be covered by your FSA account.
There a lot of expenses I shake my head at, but health and wellness is not going to be one of them.
Great for Jon. He did a preemptive strike. We probably would have Kate tweeting XMAS Eve about how excited the kids are. Now we know they are with Jon. Plus that tidbit about him having the kids most of XMAS week makes me think she'll be on a vacay with the flying monkey.
I have no issue with Jon saying what the kids want for Xmas. That's what everyone asks children anyway this time of year.
Let's see how Kate spins Christmas without the kids this year.
I guess we won't get that exploitive candlelight ceremony photo.
Adding to previous post, she may have some plastic surgery scheduled over Xmas, her present to herself.
"Jon's haters may resent the expense of a trainer/nutritionist, but have absolutely no issue with all the crap Kate spends to make herself "feel better".There's a pretty long list just starting with all the cosmetic procedures and ending with the fake tanning and everything in between. She probably has her own personal trainer as well."
Just because someone doesn't like Jon, that doesn't mean that they approve of and like Kate. It's actually possible to dislike both of them.
Adding to previous post, she may have some plastic surgery scheduled over Xmas, her present to herself.
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Wouldn't surprise me, or at least some botox/spa days to touch things up get refreshed. I imagine she will get a least a little bit of media this January to promote her two shows, or at least she is HOPING to get something.
Terry Hatcher was on chopped and I thought she looked so great. I think she has stopped doing botox and other treatments, and she looks fresher and so much more real. I didn't even recognize her.
I definitely agree TLC will trot her out to promote the special plus CA. Can't wait to see if she tweets like she is home Xmas week.
Great for Jon. He did a preemptive strike. We probably would have Kate tweeting XMAS Eve about how excited the kids are. Now we know they are with Jon.
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Ah but she'll be able to tweet that they're texting her every minute about how excited they are thinking about the piles and piles of presents that she's wrapped and has waiting for them. They will scream and squeal with delight the moment they get home.
JoyInVirginia (#26), your acronym recaps always make me smile!
Oh, yes, I believe TFW's piecin'-and-patchin' self is due for some
freshening before January's possible media appearances. And of
course, she'll need that alone time to recover from wrapping
eleventy billion gifts. What unemployed "single" mom of 8
couldn't relate to that particular problem?
Admin: I was not sure if insurance s cover trainers/exercise packages, good to know.
We all know Kate & her fans would like nothing more than to see Jon disappear, be completely out of the kids lives. But you know Kate & sheeple it not going to happen. Jon was, is, and will always be a part of his kids lives, despite what Kate or anyone else says.
NJGal, you got that right!
That link is to raise money for BV legal fess and they are selling a ton of domain names. I think BV is about to go under. Perhaps BV files will address this.
Regarding personal trainer/nutritionist, most of the time they are short term commitments, to help people get on the right track. I have taken advantage of free sessions at my gym and thought, 'that's it?' They draw up a plan for you, help teach proper form and procedure, and then move on. I see lots of people with trainers, and soon, they are on their own, doing what the trainer recommended. They walk around with their clipboard, checking items off. It's kinda cute!
Just a thought...
Well, we've got another nickname for TFW. CM as in crazy-maker.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/counseling-keys/201403/how-handle-crazymaker
I don't see BV raising the $75k he is seeking for those legal fees. $300 is a sad start, LOL. Why would anyone want to support his losing legal fights? And apparently he has not collected on that judgement on the porn revenge guy. That's the thing with judgements; hard to collect. Looks like he is selling the judgement to someone who thinks they can collect? Notice the last item: $285,000 judgement against Hunter Moore. . . Best Offer.
Kate should have gotten a personal trainer to help her with her running and nutrition, because she was awful at it.
Frankly I'd rather somebody be helping her because she doesn't know what she's doing.
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For all we know she had a few trainers but they didn't know how to help her so they walked. A lot of people have quit on her in life, ya know :(
“The boys want Nerf Guns and outdoor stuff. Headsets for their walkie talkies and XBOX [and] the girls want iPhone accessories, jewelry and clothes. The twins want gift cards for shopping,” Jon reveals exclusively to HollywoodLife.com.
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Jon "reveals exclusively to HollywoodLife.com". Stop the presses - the kids want toys & clothes!! HollywoodLife.com - first with the BIG NEWS - lol .
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I don't think what Jon said was bad; it only gives the impression of the kids and Kate not piecing and patching ( obviously they have iPhones and x-box is a realistic expectation) but no big deal. But by saying he has a personal trainer and nutritionist, he is also saying he is doing ok, and hopefully the homeless rumors are put to rest.He did some repair work on his reputation.Nice the kids will spend some holiday time with Jon.
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I agree. He refuted the "Jon is a homeless loser who doesn't see his kids" rumors without mentioning them. I think it was well done. I also like the fact that the article referred to him as a "single father". Take that, TFW!
Admin, I saw Chopped when Terri Hatcher was on, but missed the ending. I saw the rerun last night and was so glad she won for the Arthritis foundation. She did look good, she seemed very humble and grateful to be there to raise money for her charity.
What did you think of Dawn Wells? The first guy that got chopped, his dish was awful. Those kids that competed for the Teen Champion tourney cooked at executive chef levels in 3 star kitchens. I was so happy that Tommy Rae won! Sweet southern girl! I wanted all the teen kids to win! There was another young man in a teen tourney and he didn't win, but when he was chopped, Chef Marcus offered him an internship at his restaurant! He was so excited.
Thank you to whoever posted the Amazing Race was going to be on tonight! I saw a preview of Bethany, the surfer girl, and she was running down a street and I knew that she was going to be on, but I haven't had a chance to watch it. I am too much into Shark Tank on MSNBC right now, but I want to try to download the Serial. I love Forensic File and they were getting ridiculous showing the same ones over and over again. Now they are blending in 100 new FF's that haven't been seen. But, really haven't been shown in years, so they look like they just found them in the back of a reel vault!
Yet another example of why this blog thrives and remains so appealing to many of us -- I had not heard about this podcast, but I'm definitely going to check it out. Starting tonight. Friday night I like to stay in and unwind after a busy week, especially now during the holiday season with all its added errands and get-togethers. Thank you Admin for bringing this program to our attention :)
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I'm no Jon fan lately but I think its great he has a trainer and a nutritionist. A lot of people have trainers at their fitness center; no big deal. And a lot of people have trouble losing weight and maintaining it on their own. The nutritionist may have been a referral fri a doc especially if he developed high bloodpressurebor diabetes and it may be covered through insurance . I sy goo for him.
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Yep. I've "got" a nutritionist, by which I mean that I have Kaiser coverage and they offer free consultations with one of their nutritionists and follow up to help people eat healthier, lose weight, control medical issues, etc. As to a trainer, most gyms offer the services of their trainers at reasonable rates.
Why would it be wrong for anyone to try to be healthier? If you can't stand Jon, that's fine, but his efforts to lose weight and get fit shouldn't garner disgust, nor his brief comments about what his kids might like for Christmas this year.
Whatever happened to Rod Dixon training her? (I think that was his name) She said in one of her blogs that as soon as she crossed the finish line in Vegas, she collapsed in his arms and he immediately asked if he could train her for the next one. He must not have known how to help her, lol.
Lady, when the best of the best (him, Tony D.) can't train you...the problem is with you, not them. But she'll never get that.
@Kateplusmy8: Decided this yr 2 open r family gifts, 1 daily til Christmas bc they r items we can use2entertain/distract:)
Lex:Like Hanukkah?
Me:Oh yeah!
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Why do they need to be distracted or entertained? They've got iPhones, iPads, XBOX so that should provide plenty of entertainment and distraction. Plus, it's the Christmas season and there are many, many specials on. They're 10 & 14 and should not have to have a new gift every day until Christmas to entertain and distract. I think it's really so that they'll already have gotten so much that by the time they get to Jon's whatever he's able to afford to give them will be a letdown. That and she may be leaving Christmas Day for her well deserved vacation.
I guess she'll be tweeting about how they love this new tradition of gimmie, gimmie, gimmie, more, more, more.
NJGal51, you've hit the nail square on the head! This is her way of trumping Jon's Christmas custody. Words fail me for how rotten she can be.
I think the pre-Xmas gift opening is occurring for two reasons: the kids will be with Jon on Xmas Eve so this is her way of spoiling the surprise; and she will be out of town. She is quite transparent and she obviously knew that Jon spilled the beans that he will have the kids.
A better way to keep the kids busy would be to get involved with a charity.
Oh brother, just saw a quick commercial promoting CA. Everyone was dressed up and Kate was lounging in a long dress giving a come hither look, LOL.
Is it possible she knows what Jon is buying for them and is going to trump him by giving it first? Nothing would surprise me any more.
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The tweet that they are going to open one gift per day till Christmas day to keep them entertained just shows you how BAD she is teaching materialism and entitlement in that house. She is making a big mistake doing this. She is only doing this to show them she provided a big Christmas and when they get to Jon's on Christmas eve, it will be a letdown!
Jon can easily fix this! He could take them to Church on Christmas eve, the reason for the season, then take them to his house to eat a good meal, and then have Christmas with hot cocoa while they unwrapped gifts from each other and to their dad.
If TFW would do this instead of the gluttonous mountain of gifts, her children would be much better off. Give a gift to each other, make a gift for each other and give a gift to someone in charity. So each child would get a new gift, a homemade heartfelt gift and bless another child with a gift.
That is why the circus birthday party was such a flop. She should of been asking from the first of the year for books, stuffed animals, small toys, items for the OCC shoe boxes and they could of went shopping on TLC's dime for more items. OCC packing party. Invite a bunch of kids to pack the boxes. Ordered pizza and a cake for the kids birthday and TFW could of said, my kids have been so blessed over the years and it is time to give back. My kids are provided for and there are many children in our own backyard and across the globe that are suffering, have never had a gift given to them and what a great opportunity to make that child smile and give them hope for the future.
The only way she would do it is TLC filming and bankrolling her.
The photo of TFW's weaving hair doing the art with Aaden. There was Aaden wearing his glasses with the green duct tape.
Shame on her!
Also Kate's tweet is a slur against the meaning of Hanukkah and why Jewish people open a small gift a day. She really knows nothing. and I agree, are her kids all hyper- why the need for distraction and they are plenty old enough to entertain themselves as someone said, even if they did not have the latest technology. Does Kate know Jews also really do charitable activities or donate time or goods during Hanukkah?
She makes the kids sound so spoiled. They can't wait 6 more days? Geez. What a way to steal Jon's thunder.
It's not only ruining Xmas at Jon's but she is probably leaving town and can't be bothered with celebrating Xmas with her children. Anticipation for Xmas is such fun and she just sucks the air out of the holiday.
Why do they need to be distracted or entertained?
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What the heck? Time to bang head on wall. Isn't it amazing how all of us made it through the last week until Christmas without opening a gift each day to entertain and distract? What does she do in the summer to keep them amused? Give them a gift a day?
The woman is off her rocker.
Why would it be wrong for anyone to try to be healthier? If you can't stand Jon, that's fine, but his efforts to lose weight and get fit shouldn't garner disgust, nor his brief comments about what his kids might like for Christmas this year.
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Exactly. If he's concerned about his health and his weight and needs help, then good for him for tackling the problem. He should be given kudos for this, not criticized for taking charge of his health. Same goes for mentioning what his children want for Christmas. Celebrities do this all the time, and at least he's not dragging them out on television for an interview to spill their Christmas wishes.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 67
She makes the kids sound so spoiled. They can't wait 6 more days? Geez. What a way to steal Jon's thunder.
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YUP it sounds like ALL the kids have iphones now. $$$
Wasn't it last year she crowed about how the kids all wanted to spend Christmas at home? Sounds more like the court-ordered alternating holiday schedule decided it.
Giving gifts early as "distractions?" TFW, I thought you'd be tickled pink to have your babies home with you for winter break! Remember how sad you always claim to feel when they start school in the fall? The house is so empty and quiet? Why do they/you need distractions? And don't even get me started on the Hanukkah
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Kate just keeps confirming over and over again what a small-minded, jealous person she is. Trying to ruin your ex's Christmas with his children only shows she doesn't care about her kids anymore than she does Jon. She's a frustrated, warped little girl.
She doesn't work. Why doesn't she read mommy blogs and other web sites or magazines for fun ideas or local activities to do in the days coming up to Christmas. There are tons of ideas and suggestions out there. Go for it.
Love this response:
Mari Jessup @MariJessup 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 craft: decorate egg carton, fill w/wrapped little gifts, kids open one a day 12 days b4 xmas eve=entertained & distracted :)
That being said, my child never needed distraction. She played with her cousins, and when alone had a great imagination! In 5th grade, where the G kids should be, she was a big help getting ready for Christmas. She loved to read, and found lots of ways to entertain herself. Odd.
Giving "stuff" early to keep the children occupied/distracted, anything to keep them out of her sight. Pity they don't have a relationship with grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins so that they could share this special season with them.
I wonder if they have ever visited a public library, gone skating, bowling or any other public facility without being filmed for public consumption. They could also help out at the local food bank or Salvation Army depot.
These are overindulged children and, in the spirit of the season, they could see how so many others are just getting by with basic food and clothes.
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She is teaching them that the meaning of Hanukkah is nothing more than getting gifts on more than just one day and the meaning of Christmas is nothing more than sticky buns and piles of gifts. I'm afraid that they're going to be just as materialistic as she is. She knows that Jon can't afford to give them what she can. I hope that somewhere inside of each of them is just a little bit of Jon that is allowed to shine through and know that it's not all about what you get.
Perhaps the kids will get to see their cousins during Xmas? I bet Jon takes them somewhere to be with family.
I wonder if Gladys will attempt any damage control after
this latest gaffe -- perhaps reminding TFW of the
#ReasonForThe Season. Although TFW spent so much
time with her hand out in churches, you'd think she might've
absorbed some of it inadvertently.
decorate egg carton, fill w/wrapped little gifts, kids open one a day 12 days b4 xmas eve=entertained & distracted :)
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Geez. This I would use for a toddler and make the gift a little snack or a sticker etc. But I probably would never use this gimmick. Part of the fun of Christmas is anticipation. We do open one family gift Xmas Eve such as a board game, but that's it.
There is so, so much more to this holiday no matter how religious you are. Giving is key. And the sounds and sights of the season, family and friends, music and tradition.
The way she describes these kids they sound incredibly manipulative. And that's not their fault, kids who are allowed to manipulate tend to manipulate. But they are going to be in for a real shock when they hit the real world and that sort of thing doesn't work. You're not going to be able to talk your C up to an A in college. You're not going to be able to stop your boyfriend from breaking up with you if he wants to break up with you. You're not going to be able to spend money you don't have. I fear for them that the real world is going to be an absolute shock after all this coddling from Kate.
There are no words for how Milo can rationalize everything TFW tweets.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 As in #KeepKidsOccupied. They R out of school & full of excitement/energy! Good idea Kate! What sort of fun items 2day? 😛
@8MindBodySoul: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 how sad that kids need a new item per day to keep them occupied. Did your kids? This teaches horrible values
@MiloandJack: @8MindBodySoul @Kateplusmy8 Not really...kids tend 2b unappreciative if given 2much all at once! This is nice..one gift a day 2enjoy/value!
It really is sad that the only thing she can think of to appease bored or impatient kids is with presents.
The problem with that is not only does it spoil them, but it teaches them that when you need to soothe yourself because you are feeling a negative emotion, you should buy things to feel better. This leads to countless kids growing into adults prone to overspending (or overeating, or risk taking, or obsessing, or drugs, or any number of over indulging behaviors) because they never learned how to soothe their emotions constructively.
These sort of little decisions in childhood matter, Kate.
There are so many constructive things they could do with bored or impatient kids around the holiday. It's so endless. And lessons could be taught too. Stand outside a grocery store with a shopping list for needy families and ask each person going in to get just one item. My church does this and it really works! People don't feel like it's a hardship to get just ONE thing. They could feed one family
Collect toys for Toys for Tots. Visit a homeless shelter. Volunteer at a holiday party for foster children or the elderly in nursing homes. It's endless what you could do.
And I think she's full of crap. I think she's not getting her kids over xmas this year (who cares? Lots of moms aren't when you share custody. That's just a reflection of a FAIR family law order, nothing more) and that she has to have some excuse why they got her presents early. There is nothing so god damned terrible about simply saying the kids are with their dad this year so we did xmas a little early. It's not a big deal.
Not really...kids tend 2b unappreciative if given 2much all at once!
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What do you base THAT on, Milo you idiot?
Lots of kids appreciate Christmas even if it's just one day. But you need to teach kids to understand gratitude and be appreciative. This needs to be TAUGHT, and it's a lesson that is taught slowly over 18 years, one year at a time. And giving in to their demands for more and more stuff does nothing for that. In fact, it sets them back.
Given how much she lies, I have to wonder how accurate her descriptions of her bored kids are. I don't doubt her attempts to buy them with things. I just take her descriptions of how happy that makes them with a large dose of salt.
Wow. That is a slap against Hanukkah! She has no boundaries!
The suggestion that she wrap 12 little presents to put in 8 egg cartons, that's 96 gifts. Before she would do this huge and exhaustish job, she would rather hit the Easter egg people speed dial button and have them come out and do the job while she sat back and sipped on her boxed wine and risk Shoka eating some of them and getting sick.
This is just great! Wrapping odd sized gifts!
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=676093149179001&fref=nf
What the heck? Time to bang head on wall. Isn't it amazing how all of us made it through the last week until Christmas without opening a gift each day to entertain and distract?
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With the caveat that I really do believe most kids today are decent kids. However this is an example of everything that is wrong with helicopter kids, spoiled and coddled kids.
I really don't give a crap if they can't wait for Christmas. They're going to have to wait. Waiting and being patient is a life lesson. I really do not care if they are crying they are so bored and impatient. Being bored and impatient and coping with those feelings is a LIFE SKILL. They do not celebrate a Jewish holiday that structures their gift giving differently, and even so that's beside the point because Jewish children have to wait every year too. Everybody has to wait for their holiday to start.
I know she really thinks this is just a cute nothing little thing to appease them but to me it's not nothing at all. It's a huge mistake.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 Your kids understand who worked hard & made these gifts available. It's your decision & your business about how 2give them out!
How the hell does she know what the kids think? They worked just as hard as Kate if not harder.
If Kate decided that she's not giving the kids any Christmas gifts at all, would Milo be okay with that, too? Her defense of Kate has reached beyond the idiotic.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's how she bribed them back into filming, by telling them that if they film they'll make lots of money and thus get lots of Christmas gifts.
I'm afraid that they're going to be just as materialistic as she is.
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I don't think that's in the future...it's right now. She thinks it's difficult now. Just wait a few years.
The Amish lady down the road has seven kids. She is perpetually pregnant. She told me that she's baking tomorrow and I should come over for a mince pie. I'll never refuse homemade pie. I'm going to ask her if she gives her kids a gift a day to keep them distracted (from whom or what) and entertained. I'm sure we'l have a good laugh over that.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 Your kids understand who worked hard & made these gifts available. It's your decision & your business about how 2give them out!
How the hell does she know what the kids think? They worked just as hard as Kate if not harder.
If Kate decided that she's not giving the kids any Christmas gifts at all, would Milo be okay with that, too? Her defense of Kate has reached beyond the idiotic.
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Agree, it's getting silly at this point. Kate made a dumb decision about how to appease some cranky kids tweeted it to the world and people called her out on her laziness and helicoptering. Period.
And if presents are Kate's business then why in the world did Kate tweet about it to her hundreds of thousands of followers. I would also suggest that their father should have some input in how much or little to spoil kids absolutely rotten, including whether they all should have iPhones, xboxes, get showered with gifts daily, etc.
How did Kate work hard exactly? Did she work harder than I did with a fulltime job and a part-time job? Because her kids have a lot more than mine does? She didn't work hard, she exploited her kids for easy, big money
So I take it Jon has the kids Christmas eve into Christmas Day? We always alternated that. Whoever had them Christmas eve brought them back at noon for Christmas dinner. Whenever it was my ex's turn, Santa came the weekend early. Still got up as if it were Christmas Day. Never forfeited that at all.
Wow, Kate still tryin to out do Jon. Throw him under the bus still. She is mean spirited. Let the kids open one present each day till xmas?. Boy, Kate are we trying to buy the kids love, & loyalty. Kate, what are you afraid of? losing your kids love & control, so your buying them by letting them open a gift everyday, that's a lot of gifts and under rating Jon, cause he can't afford to do that.
Kate, what a DUMB thing to do, for a person who crys, patching & piecing finances ALL THE TIME, this makes you sound & look like one BIG FAT LIAR. That you are not in dire straights on money. It also says that your kids are spoiled, entitled and rule the roost(that if they don't get what they want, they won't film).
And to those idiot fans that say: it's Kates business, well it's not, when you put it on social media, it becomes everybodys business, and if people choose to comment on it, good or bad, TOOOOO BAD, if Kate does not want that kind of attention then GET OFF TWITTER AND SHUT UP! JMO
How did Kate work hard exactly? Did she work harder than I did with a fulltime job and a part-time job?
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That's my question.
If her kids deserve to get presents early, then shouldn't all kids whose parents work hard get lavished with gifts? And what about parents who work very hard but still can't afford 6 straight days of presents? Are they bad parents?
I'm just confused what the logic is here that somehow elevates Kate to play by different rules than everyone else. How did she work hard than any other mom?
Hey, Milo. Some people believe that there are more rewards to hard work than just presents, crap, "stuff."
I just read that one of Kate's fans is having a health concern right now. I think she's kind of a poor soul. She tweeted that she has no money to buy her kids gifts this year. Kate tweets that her kids are getting a gift a day until Christmas. If she's going to do this, fine, that's her business, but good grief, you don't make it public and rub it in the faces of those who don't have the financial means to do this.
Not only isn't her brain wired correctly, I don't think there are any wires there at all.
She just makes my blood boil.
Didn't Gladys make fun of the "mind readers" -- yet she's able
to understand the thoughts and feelings of 8 children she's
never met?
Formerly Duped said... 83
decorate egg carton, fill w/wrapped little gifts, kids open one a day 12 days b4 xmas eve=entertained & distracted :)
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Geez. This I would use for a toddler and make the gift a little snack or a sticker etc. But I probably would never use this gimmick. Part of the fun of Christmas is anticipation. We do open one family gift Xmas Eve such as a board game, but that's it.
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Haha that's what we did as kids! There were five of us and we drew names and would open the one present from the sibling Christmas Eve. My kid opens one present on Christmas Eve now too!
Do they get to light one candle every night too? Since their celebrating Hanukah and all....
She just won't stop.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 5m5 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Long school break...difficult weather...six 10yr olds can get bored fast! I see the benefit of ur #OneGiftADay decision...😊
Difficult weather? Is she now prescient and she knows what the weather's going to be? What about all the other "stuff" they have?
I'm sure there are plenty of things to keep them occupied. Between the video games, wii, and other things they have.
Kate just wants to one-up Jon again, Milo, why don't you just admit it.
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She doesn't work. Why doesn't she read mommy blogs and other web sites or magazines for fun ideas or local activities to do in the days coming up to Christmas. There are tons of ideas and suggestions out there. Go for it.
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You're kidding, right? Kate, the epitome of motherhood ask for advice? Why, she wrote the book on parenting, literally. Other parents should be worshipping at the altar of St. Kate of the Uterus.
PJ
Perhaps Kate is doing this cause, she will have the kids, with no extra help. We know how much she likes being/interacting with her kids.
And I agree, she is getting ready to do some promo or plastic up keep.
As for the Hanukkah comparison, shame on you Kate, you don't know what the Holiday even means, shame. What happen to Kate's Christian values, like going to church and down playing the whole commercialism of Xmas? And give back?!
There are plenty of things her kids could do. Kate is just LAZY! JMO
OT -- the Couric/Stephen Collins interview is on ABC at 10 p.m., Eastern Time. He says he is not a pedophile.
OT again...I've never seen Daymond, the object of Mrs. Uggs undying affection (and lust) until now. Geez...I guess there is a lid for every pot.
Sheesh! Now I've heard everything! If TFMJGs kids need to be distracted/entertained on a daily basis, why doesn't she get them an Advent Calendar? They could use that to inspire their daily activity -- learn a Bible verse, make up a story, do a good deed, etc. It would be creative and thought provoking. Oh wait, I think I answered my own question here.
So, his wife extorted him. Sign this or I will take the tape to the media. Not going to the police. Steven Collins looks sadden, depressed, somewhat suicidal, but he has been acting for 40 years. he could be acting for sympathy.
Katie asked him, what happened that day?
I wish that Katie would of asked TFW: The day Joel had the potty accident after the 5 day time limit for potty training, what really happened that day?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 43m43 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Long school break...difficult weather...six 10yr olds can get bored fast! I see the benefit of ur #OneGiftADay decision...😊
Difficult weather? Milo,. you idiot. We have been having above average temperatures here -- 40s and 50s, and the rest of the month is shaping up to be the same. It was 62 degrees two weeks ago. There's no Polar Vortex! If it snows, it's not "difficult weather." These kids should love to get outside and play in the snow. That's what we did on Christmas vacation -- went sledding, skating, built snowmen, had snowball fights, and really had a blast until our parents made us come inside and take hot baths!
As for the Hanukkah comparison, shame on you Kate, you don't know what the Holiday even means, shame.
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It doesn't sound like Kate brought that up. I believe it was Hannah.
Not only isn't her brain wired correctly, I don't think there are any wires there at all.
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She is completely incapable of understanding why so many of her comments could easily make others feel bad or not up to snuff. A comment about massive amounts of Christmas presents, tweeted out to the world, is just insensitive and obtuse.
It's wonderful if you have money, but most people understand there are certain things you just keep to yourself about what you choose to do with it. That's why a lot of people don't know who has money and who doesn't, because good people don't rub it in your face.
PA Dutch Mom said... 107
OT again...I've never seen Daymond, the object of Mrs. Uggs undying affection (and lust) until now. Geez...I guess there is a lid for every pot.
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I think she has a new love interest.
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She just won't stop.
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She did. LOM flipped the switch! Finally.
localyocul said... 102
Do they get to light one candle every night too? Since their celebrating Hanukah and all....
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If TFW gets a menorah, I can guess who will get to light the first candle. Hannah as in Hanukkah.
I would love to have this gift in my stocking stuffer this year is the identity of Milo! hahaha
Although I have been appalled by Kate's behavior/decisions in the past, this one really blows my mind. You don't give a child one gift a day up to Christmas to appease/distract them; that is ridiculous. It is, in my opinion, just to take away from Jon's Christmas with them.
Not only that, I remember as a child the anticipation and joy leading up to Christmas; the excitement on Christmas Eve trying to sleep and wondering what presents would be under the tree in the morning; the joy of running down the stairs with my brothers and sisters to see the presents under the tree and what gifts had my my name on them. Kate is taking all of that joy and excitement of childhood away from her children.
She also is not teaching them about the spirit of giving. I always used to bake cookies and make baskets with cookies and fruit for the neighbors when my daughter was young; she would help me put them together. Then she and I would deliver them. For one or two neighbors that we knew had fallen on hard times, instead of fruit I would put a small ham in the basket/gift bag. I also took her with me when I delivered donations to the food pantry. We did our best to show the importance of giving and not just receiving.
I don't think Hannah actually brought up Hannukah. These conversations are all made up by Kate IMO. She claims Hannah said it but really Kate thought it would be cute. The occupied/distracted part of opening presents has to do with Kate also. They probably promise to stay out of her way if she gives them presents.
Most kids will say stuff like I wish Christmas was tomorrow. They just want a little empathy. If you say, I know it's hard waiting, they'll go play. A good distraction would be for them to help make cookies. At that age they can help. Since her baking is all for show, they can't help. She misses so many fun times. I feel sad for those kids. They must know their mother doesn't like them.
Is TLC scraping the bottom of the barrel in finding new subject matter, or is this just par for the course?
"TLC will air a special in January called “My Husband’s Not Gay” that follows four men living in Salt Lake City, Utah, who don’t identify themselves as homosexual despite having an attraction to men."
Most kids will say stuff like I wish Christmas was tomorrow. They just want a little empathy.
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Exactly. It's normal to be ready for the holiday to get there. Even as an adult I wish it were just here. I'm having family here for xmas for the first time in years (I usually go to them) and while that's fun there's so much work to do for it.
Work is crazy, I have so much cooking and cleaning to do, and to top it all off my fridge and freezer died yesterday. Sears is coming tomorrow to repair it and I've got all my stuff crammed in a mini fridge. Never a dull moment! But that's life. Christmas can't get here yet. It won't be here until later next week. I have to just get through this week somehow. There are no quick fixes.
The thing is though if kids are having a hard time coping with having to wait, that is where Kate needs to be a parent. Like you said, show a little empathy, and use it as a teachable moment.
Kids, if we're anxious or eager for something that can't get here any faster than it gets here, how can we cope with that?
Volunteer work, start reading a good book and see if you can finish it before Christmas, do some cleaning or baking or other prep work, call someone you haven't talked to in awhile, listen to a new Pandora station on their iPhones, watch a classic Christmas movie you've never seen.
Kate is a quick fix parent. She just wants a quick fix to the situation and move the heck on. That may be convenient for HER, but it does nothing to help foster the skills a child needs to learn as they mature.
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"TLC will air a special in January called “My Husband’s Not Gay” that follows four men living in Salt Lake City, Utah, who don’t identify themselves as homosexual despite having an attraction to men."
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Wow, a show about semantics. Sounds riveting. English teachers will love it.
Kate is a quick fix parent. She just wants a quick fix to the situation and move the heck on. That may be convenient for HER, but it does nothing to help foster the skills a child needs to learn as they mature.
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Bottom line is that it sounds like these kids are nothing more than an annoyance to her. She doesn't know what to do with them, how to find anything creative for them to do, charity work doesn't interest her in the least, so why would she pass this on to her children? Not only doesn't she know how to parent; she doesn't want to learn because it requires far too much work.
Then there are the sheeple who want her to write a book on organization and creative ways to raise healthy and happy kids. Wouldn't be much of a book -- just give them "stuff."
Sleepless, agree.
I think one of the most appealing aspects of having a child in your life, whether it's one you gave birth to or a niece or nephew, close friend, or whoever, is the opportunity to be a teacher.
Kids are desperate to learn about the ways of the world, even if they aren't able to say so. They are looking to you for help.
There is so much a child has to learn that goes beyond school. They learn just as much at home about our world as they do at school. And one of those lessons is learning to wait for good things. No cheating, no work arounds. You have to wait.
She doesn't appear to have that burning desire to fill that roll. She doesn't seem interested in their education, and I'm not talking about reading and arithmetic.
She just wants to be the BFF because it makes her feel cool, and she wants the trophies handed out by the sheeple and Kate Coyne for being mommy, however she defines that. She is not interested in the important role we as adults can really take on when it comes to children. And that's a shame, because her kids are going to really suffer someday from not having someone modeling and teaching these sort of things. Someone who just took the easy way out whenever a learning opportunity came up.
Thanks for the reminder about Stephen Collins. It comes on here in a bit.
Roll=role.
I must be hungry. All my food is in the garage in the mini fridge. Not easily accessible. lol.
There is so much a child has to learn that goes beyond school. They learn just as much at home about our world as they do at school. And one of those lessons is learning to wait for good things. No cheating, no work arounds. You have to wait.
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Exactly. If she is "teaching" them anything, it's that instant gratification makes everything right in the world. They have the "your every wish is my command" thing going on, and once they've learned that, there's no turning back.
They have the "your every wish is my command" thing going on, and once they've learned that, there's no turning back.
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AND, they will soon discover that they thing they wanted doesn't make them feel as good as they thought it would, which causes them to seek even more and more things. Like a drug, they will chase after more and more for the same effect. This year it's Christmas presents 6 days early, next year it will be 10 days early, next year a month early. Until they grow into adults spending and spending whenever and whatever without ever making yourself wait and at least think about it first. Because they have learned this is how to appease themselves. They didn't learn more constructive, and cheaper ways.
OT for something fun, go to YouTube and search for Stephen Colbert finale show, and watch the sing along with many many special guests. So fun!
Regarding personal trainer/nutritionist, most of the time they are short term commitments, to help people get on the right track. I have taken advantage of free sessions at my gym and thought, 'that's it?' They draw up a plan for you, help teach proper form and procedure, and then move on. I see lots of people with trainers, and soon, they are on their own, doing what the trainer recommended. They walk around with their clipboard, checking items off. It's kinda cute!
Just a thought...
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Yes. I would venture to say that most people would be fine to just pay for the 10-12 session packages offered by most gyms and then be done with it. You can learn all the basics you need with just that.
The difference is night and day between TFW and Kevin Jonas.
Reality television star Kate Gosselin and musician Kevin Jonas of the Jonas Brothers will be competing in the next season of Celebrity Apprentice for two Springfield-based charities, according to the show's website.
Gosselin is representing Camp Barnabas, a Christian camp for kids with disabilities, special needs and terminal illnesses. Jonas has chosen Convoy of Hope, a faith-based international humanitarian-relief organization, as his charity.
They will compete against 14 other celebrities in Donald Trump's reality show with the winner receiving a $250,000 check for their chosen charity. Jeff Nene, national spokesperson for Convoy of Hope, said Jonas' brothers, Nick and Joe, and father, Kevin Sr., have been big supporters the organization for a several years now. His father serves as the honorary chairman of the board, Nene said, and Joe Jonas worked at Convoy of Hope's response site in Moore, Okla., after the tornado in 2013.
"All three of the Jonas Brothers have been really good to Convoy," Nene said. "Kevin Sr. is a really down-to-earth guy who has a heart beyond music and making money. "The three sons have inherited that as well — a heart for helping people in need."
Nene added that Kevin Jonas is "pretty talented beyond his music ability."
"We are hoping that he goes really far in the show," Nene said.
The season premiere is 8 p.m. Jan. 4 on NBC.
Kate Gosselin
American television personality and author Kate Gosselin is a registered nurse and the mother of twins and sextuplets. Gosselin and her family were featured in several specials on the Discovery Health Channel, along with their reality television series on TLC, "Jon and Kate Plus 8" and "Kate Plus 8." Airing from 2006 to 2011, the series focused on the challenges of raising eight children, including twins Cara Nicole and Madelyn Kate, and sextuplets Alexis Faith, Hannah Joy, Aaden Jonathan, Collin Thomas, Leah Hope and Joel Kevin.
Gosselin also appeared as a contestant on the tenth season of ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" and has co-hosted several episodes of "The View."
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She is completely incapable of understanding why so many of her comments could easily make others feel bad or not up to snuff.
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OMG, it just struck me that she's just like Nellie Oleson. She sees nothing wrong with shoving her wealth in people's faces. It's her bragging point and feeds her narcissism. She has no clue why it's so tacky. She only knows it makes HER feel good and she doesn't care about the feelings of others. There's nothing as pathetic as the nouveau riche.
PJ
One thing TFW's tweet has revealed is that the film crews are long
gone. There was lots of fun and excitement and activity swirling
around for a while there -- as long as someone with a clipboard
and a camera crew was making it happen.
Well, she's got her "just the 9 of us" fantasy. Kicked Dad to the
curb, our relatives don't know how to help us, we're too famous
to go out to the movies without creating a mob scene. And I think
she's miserable. When they moved in and she did her couch
interview grinning about how her kids could "disperse" in such
a large house, it was chilling to me. The message was loud
and clear -- she didn't want them around.
Oh, and don't think for a minute that these 6 days of gifts aren't being used as "currency". The Kate giveth and the Kate taketh away.
PJ
Perhaps Kate will listen to the Grinch!
http://goo.gl/oHniME
OMG, it just struck me that she's just like Nellie Oleson. She sees nothing wrong with shoving her wealth in people's faces. It's her bragging point and feeds her narcissism. She has no clue why it's so tacky
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It's amazing to me her lack of tact. I've seen enough now of her talking about Christmas and birthday presents, expensive gadgets galore for her kids, and other VIP treatment to know that she's utterly clueless.
I worked with extremely wealthy people, worth over 30 million, and they never flaunted their money like this or ever made others feel bad. In fact anyone wealthy I've ever known almost seemed a bit embarrassed by it. I had friends who went to Europe for three weeks every single Christmas and had a second home there, but it's like they went out of their way to just not mention they were doing it. They seemed very aware that most people will be lucky to afford one Christmas abroad let alone every single one. It's way out of line at this point her bragging.
Anyone see Stephen Collins?
After that interview I'm firmly on his wife's side and I believe that he is not cured and is a sexual deviant attracted to children.
The number one reason for this is Katie Couric kept pressing him but aren't you a child molester, doesn't your interest in children and acting on it making you as such?
Stephen kept saying oh no no I'm not a child molester or pervert. I have no desire for children. I just HAPPENED to have touched about four different little girls.
Katie's like uhhhhh then why did you touch little girls then? I'm confused.
Katie did a good job. He's in complete denial.
Oh, TFW, I have an idea for an activity! Why don't you wrangle the kids and spend an afternoon helping out at the animal shelter you
held the garage sale for? I'm sure they could always use some
extra hands there, and you guys have 9! You said you were
"addicted to giving" -- or is that only when there's a camera
crew around?
Border Collie, are you still reading here? Sending my good wishes.
I hope things are working out better for you.
These kids are over 10 and 14. They know they have to wait until Christmas. Was this just Kate's idea and the kids went along with it? "Sure, Mommy, we will open a gift a day and then disperse."
She is destroying any value system they had developed. C and M were talking on the couch in the last special about how they manipulated Kate; she thinks she's masterminding them, but in fact, it's now the opposite, as far at the twins go.
Loved the podcast, "Serial". It was tremendously produced and narrated.
I do wonder, however, what Sarah's thought process was as she decided to wade into these waters.
Hae's parents have to be ripped apart by this. I feel for them. They are convinced Adnan is the killer and although it will never bring Hae back, it must give them some comfort that he's behind bars.
I also wonder if Sarah realizes that this podcast phenomenon will inevitably put a finger on the scales of justice.
I'm just thinking "out loud" and although enthralled and entertained by the series, there are moral implications to consider.
Kate and giving the kids their presents early- well, what can we say. The odds are against those kids growing up NOT spoiled.
They have been showered with special treatment, gifts, toys and trips their entire lives, which is so ironic, considering their mother cries poor every single chance she gets.
During this Christmas break, those kids should be hanging with friends and family. They have a huge house, expensive toys and really, everything a kid could ever want, materially.
That Kate feels she needs to appease them by letting them open gifts is nothing short of pathetic and tragic.
Grow up kids- you're too old to be acting like bratty toddlers.
Read a book, think about how to help less fortunate.
As for Kate, what a pathetic imbecile.
Go play gaga ball, go to a movie, go ice skating, go to gymnastics.
Oh, right. No cameras, no interest in doing things with the kids.
Tucker, I had the same thought about Hae's family.
From what I have heard from families of victims, it is tremendously painful to have someone go digging all over again when you have found acceptance and closure about the tragic event. And now your daughter is the subject of endless speculation on Reddit.
That doesn't mean a journalist shouldn't tell someone's story or that we shouldn't talk about it. We as a society have a right to question whether justice was done, and we will hopefully always have that right. However, she did not even acknowledge the family dynamic of it. I haven't quite finished yet but I'm close, and so far, she has not said whether she tried to reach out to Hae's family or ascertain their feelings on the matter. That seems like an important piece here, IMO. The right thing to do, if you will.
My daughter is listening to someone talking while she's in the shower. I asked her what it was and she said "it's a podcast called Serial, it's really good you should listen to it" LOL
Yes and I didn't mind that the twins said that. The twins seem well aware they manipulate her, they have her over a barrel. And they take advantage. They want what they want like any kid does and they know how to get it. The difference is their path to getting what they want is unhealthy, but that's not their fault nor are they old enough and mature enough to not take that path because it's not "good" for them. Which is why we have PARENTS.
That's just what kids DO when you give them that power. It's kid nature. They were just being honest about the situation.
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 43m43 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Long school break...difficult weather...six 10yr olds can get bored fast! I see the benefit of ur #OneGiftADay decision...��
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My mom had 5 kids in 5 years. We got bored. If we said so, the answer was I can find something for you to do with broom in hand. We found something to do.
I've seen a lot of articles lately about childhood and boredom, with worried parents asking the experts if it's okay to let their child be bored. Here's one of my favorites:
"When a youngster says, “I'm bored,” he is simply announcing that he has forgotten that he has the capacity to entertain himself. If he insists that you do something with him because there's no one else to play with, don't feel obligated to give in. There's nothing wrong with letting a child wander the house aimlessly for a while; necessity is the mother of invention.
If you don't provide diversions, your children will find ways to entertain themselves... eventually. Over-scheduled kids often claim there’s “nothing to do” because their muscle of imagination has weakened. Allow your children their frustration. “It doesn't seem fair that Dad won't take you to the mall.” “You were wishing you could take another dance class this week.” Acknowledge their predicament, and put out art supplies or a box of Legos, but don't worry too much about making the boredom go away.
Downtime is crucial for children, especially in today's world of never-ending stimulation. Kids who lose the capacity to daydream become restless adults, constantly searching for stimulation and distraction."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/bored-kids_n_1456580.html
My mom had 5 kids in 5 years. We got bored. If we said so, the answer was I can find something for you to do with broom in hand. We found something to do.
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omg, as a kid, you didn't dare tell your parents you're bored. I would have been put to work toot sweet.
I can't imagine my mom throwing presents at me to get me out of her hair.
If those kids can't find something to do with all of their toys, I'd start collecting them to donate.
wtf? smdh.
Admin (#141), thanks for the info from that article about kids and
boredom. Interesting stuff -- really makes me worry for the G 8.
We get into discussions here, and people provide sources to back
up their opinions. If I slam TFW about something, it's usually based on words she's said on film, or tweets of hers I can cite. And then
you have someone like Gladys, who pulls "facts" out of her fantasy version of TFW, and will stand on her virtual chair and shout them again and again, trying to convince people they're true. Meanwhile,
she's seen the exact same film footage, and read the exact same
tweets, and continues to disregard it -- or purposefully manipulates
the information to suit her agenda.
Flimsy Flamsy said...
And then
you have someone like Gladys, who pulls "facts" out of her fantasy version of TFW...
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Funny, that's not where I thought she pulled them from.
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Like Gladys saying spreading gifts out instead of all at once makes kids "more appreciative." Huh? What study says THAT? She just pulled that out of her ass without a single thing to back it up.
And then saying they're cooped up all winter? Huh? Apparently she's never lived in the Northeast, where the world is your winter playground. But for a few rare exceptions like heavy wind, blizzard conditions (which often happen at night anyway) or ice storms, you can go outside. Heck I think I may have been outside more in the WINTER than summer, because the humidity can get REALLY bad and uncomfortable in the summer. And it's not uncomfortable to be outside when it's snowing, whereas when it rains, you get wet and cold so much faster. Sledding, skiing, snow forts, capture the flag. All wonderful things to do outside in winter.
I grew up in an area where everyone had "woods" in their backyard. Oh my goodness the possibilities were endless. The woods were my spaceship, my fortress, my castle, my treehouse. Summer OR winter.
I'm with you localyocul, there were 7 of us and if we whined about being bored my mother always found something for us to do around the house.
I would love to have this gift in my stocking stuffer this year is the identity of Milo! hahaha
That would be so funny.
Craving coffee now with a little cocoa in it.
MJ
NJ Gal, Tucker's Mom and local, I grew up with the same parenting style you mentioned. I am the oldest of seven children. The first 4 girls were born in less than 6 years. Boredom didn't exist in our home -- my mother made sure of that. I learned chores very early in life.
We lived in the country and recreation was home made. I think that I am a better person for learning a work ethic and developing an imagination.
Doesn't mean I didn't fuss and whine at the time. I just outgrew the short term situation!
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Ditto that, as I experienced the same thing- one of six.
Admin 146- Gladys goes along with everything TFW says, although once in a while this is a little side snark. So I do believe Gladys is someone she knows. (in spite of what Gladys says). Or else she is just a clueless fan.
So, by the time the kids get to open their presents on Christmas morning with Jon, they'll have been spoiled for days.
It's undercuts Jon, but that doesn't surprise me at all.
So, by the time the kids get to open their presents on Christmas morning with Jon, they'll have been spoiled for days.
It's undercuts Jon, but that doesn't surprise me at all.
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Yep, it sure does, and she darn well knows it.
She would love nothing more than for the kids to be playing with all their new gadgets at Jon's than to get all excited in anticipation of what he has for them under the tree. Meh, they already got what they wanted so...
She is generally a rude, rude person.
Admin, I think you are being incredibly kind in calling her rude. I would call her a b*tch with a capital B!
Amy
No wonder Kate was bitching about wrapping everything when she had over a week left to do so. She planned on giving them their gifts early all along.
LoveMyGrandsons said... 116
Although I have been appalled by Kate's behavior/decisions in the past, this one really blows my mind. You don't give a child one gift a day up to Christmas to appease/distract them; that is ridiculous.
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That's 48 gifts BEFORE the big day. Good grief. No wonder she had to use a park for her garage sale. If she does that every year that house must be creaking on it's foundation from 'stuff'. Talk about the sin of excess.
I swear she sends out her little digs to their father by posting her ridiculousness on twitter. She doesn't care about her public persona, but she does care about one upping him. And don't get me wrong, I am not, nor have I ever been a fan of him, other than I always thought he was the kids only hope of not being completely messed up. But he will always fight an uphill battle because she hates him far more than she loves her kids.
But he will always fight an uphill battle because she hates him far more than she loves her kids. 157
She has made that abundantly clear.
Gladys is such a doofus. Yes, Gladys, difficult weather. It's so difficult that Christmas Eve Day should reach a high of sixty degrees. I'll take that "difficult" weather all winter long. Gosselins, get outside and play. She wanted all of that land, so let them enjoy it.
No chance here of a White Christmas here. Sigh.
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I swear she sends out her little digs to their father by posting her ridiculousness on twitter. She doesn't care about her public persona, but she does care about one upping him. And don't get me wrong, I am not, nor have I ever been a fan of him, other than I always thought he was the kids only hope of not being completely messed up. But he will always fight an uphill battle because she hates him far more than she loves her kids.
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I agree, TFW hates him for ending their show, and was no longer interested in him, as the show as we knew it was done. Guess Jon had served his purpose- quitting his job (at TFW's request so she could travel 2 weeks with TFM). It is disgraceful, and wish he would have put his foot down with her, but I do think he loved her and agreed, although I think he was very naïve. Still don't think he makes the best choices at all time, but do think he is a better person in general.
Tucker's Mom (#155), I'm not sure if this one-a-day present
method was planned all along. I tend to think it's a direct
response to Jon's interview. Amazing how she can still
resent him so intensely so many years after the divorce.
I'm surprised she hasn't tried to one-up his personal trainer
announcement with a tweet about her treadmill. Oh, wait,
I forgot about her broken toe, er, foot, er, leg -- she's still
in the middle of the standard 7-year recuperation period!
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I think as the kids get older (especially the girls know how to manipulate her, as she is holding them (all over the barrel) to film, in exchange for gifts, concerts, visiting friends, etc... Jon is an after thought and I think she resents the kids' time together with him, although she has no choice. I hope Collin is now seeing him, as he should have been all along.
AuntieAnn said...156
Talk about the sin of excess.
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Yes, `ol Klutton Kreider. Didn't want to use the letter G, because of the kids and Jon. She has earned that name all by herself!
Tucker's Mom said... 155
No wonder Kate was bitching about wrapping everything when she had over a week left to do so. She planned on giving them their gifts early all along.
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If I remember correctly, the twins helped her wrap gifts last year ( well because she is too lazy) and probably paid them for it. I remember while filming, she offered K & M $20 each to go off the sliding board by pool to do so while filming, plus she noted that the twins get extra money for extra chores (with the chore jar). I think this is called bribery to a degree, but TFW "does it all by herself."
A side note, but I hope the boys get I Pads, so they don't have to "watch" their tup sisters using them all of the time, that we have seen repeatedly on film. Not sure why TFW thinks they are second class citizens, but clearly she thinks the girls come first, in her bad choices, expects a lot out of them (chicken coop chores daily, cleaning bathrooms, weeding,etc...) yet Mady - according to her; does not want to empty the dishwasher often. Imagine the boys saying no to that. It is very disturbing how little they have to say, and how the tup girls treat them, and SHE should be focusing on that, rather than herself.
Never mind the bribes she now is giving them in advance of Christmas, as I think she knows most of them no longer want to film.
TFW clearly has some issues with "gender" and it is getting very old.
Just a guess on my part, but bet the twins have a good idea of what boots, etc... they are getting, and saying they need them before Xmas for XYZ. They actually seem to have her over a barrel and get to see friends, get to do things, etc.. so she extended it to the tups.
She really has lost control, as she has 5 girls who are challenging her who she has filmed them to death, so I think it is time to end the show, but she never will as a narcissist, and the girls have learned how to "work" her in return for filming. The recent previews of upcoming shows are disturbing at best, as the girl tups are screaming and yelling, Cara silently walks past her, and Mady rebelling. Never mind zombie boys, which is VERY disturbing at best.
What more of a clue does TFW need to know that the kids are done with being filmed??? And embarrassed in front of all of their friends.
I've listened to Seraial since the beginning--I am an avid This American Life fan. If you download the TAL app, you can do searches for Sarah's stories and Interviews.
There is another spinoff with Alex Blumberg as he navigates through the process of starting a new business, called Startup. it doesn't have the true crime hook, so might not be of interest to some of you. Once you start listening to This Aamerican Life, you really get to know the reporters. Based on having listened to Sarah for years, I don't think that Serial could have ended any other way, and I had arrived at the same conclusion. Don't want to say anything more since so many are just starting. Maybe we can revisit it after the holidays?
As far as Hanukkahgate--I am Jewish. I am not offended by ignorance, an that is what that comment was.
Since the original statement came from one of the kids, it isn't surprising because they probably have school friends that are Jewish. My kids were always jealous of the big Christmas score, because a bunch of presents seemed better than the straggle of gifts over 8 days. It is, as many have said here, a teaching opportunity. Which, of course, was missed.
@Kateplusmy8: Decided this yr 2 open r family gifts, 1 daily til Christmas bc they r items we can use2entertain/distract:)
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Seriously? Distract them from what? Wanting your attention and have you actually parent them?
Have you thought about taking them outside and "distracting" them with some fresh air and snow. How about having them play with the plethora of boards games you were gifted from Hasbro years ago?
Why not have them write and perform a play for you? Or, as someone mentioned, get them involved in a charity project.
Christmas is so much more than distracting your children with material things.
So sad that they aren't learning this important lesson from you.
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How many lumps of sugar, 1 or 2? hahaha
She would love nothing more than for the kids to be playing with all their new gadgets at Jon's than to get all excited in anticipation of what he has for them under the tree. Meh, they already got what they wanted so..
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Actually Admin I don't think they'll be allowed to bring the new gadgets to Jon's. She'll make them leave everything home so that she can say that the kids wanted to be home with her. Truthful to a point because they'll want to be home with all their loot.
Tucker's @142...
I had to laugh at "toot sweet"...I don't know if you were being facetious or not and I'm not trying to be anal retentive or corrective, I just think it a very charming take on the french expression, "tout suite" or "toute de suite", which, as you obviously know because you used it properly, means right away or with much haste.
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My mother's cure for boredom was always "read a book." And it worked, since I am an avid reader and consider it one of life's greatest pleasures.
I remember TFW stating her kids were never bored since they always had a sibling to play with.
I really don't think they are bored. They have plenty of 'stuff' and a beautiful property. There is so much to do related to Christmas, as well, baking, crafts, stories, TV specials, enjoying their new bedrooms, games, songs. Can't the Von Gosselins give a concert? Mady a one-woman show? Have a sleigh-ride on the Gator? Have friends over? No, TFW won't arrange anything for them. NO FUN THINGS! But I do think they are old enough to make their own fun.And as Christians ( ahem) they could be involved in church/religious activities.I think Kate made up the whole scenario to make herself look good, 'giving' so much to the kids.
Sheri said... 172
Tucker's @142...
I had to laugh at "toot sweet"...I don't know if you were being facetious or not and I'm not trying to be anal retentive or corrective, I just think it a very charming take on the french expression, "tout suite" or "toute de suite", which, as you obviously know because you used it properly, means right away or with much haste.
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Mercy Buckets for the explanation, Sheri. ;)
PJ
OT- I streamed "The Escape Artist" today- 3 episodes, really tight story. It stars David Tennant from Broadchurch & Gracepoint.
Free with Amazon Prime.
While I do think it was not great of Jon to tell what his kids wanted for Xmas and where they'll be (the kids need at least ONE parent who keeps everything of their life private, especially the good since they will always have one parent who make everything, especially the bad and embarrassing very public) I have an even bigger worry. How long after removing sticky buns from the oven should one put icing on them? I want to get the right ratio of melty-ness to amount on the bun not sliding off into the pan.
Trying again, I believe you ice the sticky buns after the bird has nibbled on them.
(Sorry. Ewwwww. I am so disgusted by that bird being in the kitchen.)
After the episode with the bird on her counters and "landing" on the cake, I know I personally wouldn't eat anything that came out of that kitchen. If those sticky buns are for kid's teachers etc, hope no one watched that show.Wonder how many see the bottom of a garbage can without ever being opened? Lousy gift.
I have an even bigger worry. How long after removing sticky buns from the oven should one put icing on them? I want to get the right ratio of melty-ness to amount on the bun not sliding off into the pan.
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Don't you want to know how long you should let them cool before you freeze them, and how long it takes to defrost them...or do you eat them partially frozen?
Milo will be working her CA publicist job until the show airs. She must know that Kate didn't make it that far, or does she really believe that her love interest will win this thing? It will be funny to see who gets blamed for not being able to help Kate. Will Milo play the bully card and trash the other contestants? Should be amusing.
I went to the Rumspringa Brewery to pick up a few gifts, and I was thinking about the Ladies of the Veranda. I wish admin would be making the trip back East for Christmas. It would be a blast for all the locals and admin to sit down for holiday libations, platters of really great cheese and fruit, and some sheeple snarking!
I went to my neighbor lady's house to pick up my pie (have to get some vanilla ice cream), and none of the seven kids was bored. Two were involved in some kind of craft project, making Christmas cards with folded papers (really cool); one was reading a book, three were outside on scooters and the baby was nursing. I didn't see anyone who needed to be distracted or entertained with pre-Christmas presents. Amazing, isn't it?
I forgot to mention -- OT: Sandusky lost his legal battle to have his $4,900 monthly pension reinstated. I guess the Mrs. isn't too happy about that. Classic case of wife in denial.
Kate needs to know this because...?
colleen campbell @callerbabe 9m9 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Ashley & I were shopping @ the mall near us in south Edmonton-it was a ZOO!We'll be @ a XMAS Party tomorrow-yes!
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 55m55 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Question: Why do men prefer & fall in love w/intelligent women?
Answer: Opposites attract! >> ( LOL We know its true! )
I sometimes wonder if Gladys has a fondness for the drink. I have to think about Robin Williams in Mrs.Doubtfire when when I use that expression..."He was quite fond of the drink. It was the drink that killed him." It just seems that Gladys has a penchant for nipping at the bottle. Either that, or she's just plain weird.
KIAT: You follow Kate's TL. What is the exchange of the caramel apples all about?
What I found most fascinating about Serial is that much of it was produced in real time with new information coming in as each podcast was released. I have no strong opinion on Adnan's guilt or innocence. I do believe the investigation was bungled in many ways and that his lawyer was incompetent. Given the lack of evidence and what I would consider reasonable doubt I am surprised he was convicted 15 years ago. I hope we get an update on the Innocence Project's work and whether they ever get to test the DNA. Can't wait to hear what case Serial will cover next.
Damage control. The G's are playing a Wii game but also other 'stuff' and baking. Right.
There is a huge outbreak of Listeria in prepackaged caramel apples that have killed 5 people and sickened 38 others. They are saying, do not eat them, but haven't done a recall. They said the incubation period could be a few days even up to 70 days.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/caramel-apples-linked-deaths-multi-state-listeria-outbreak/story?id=27719918
@Kateplusmy8: Today's family gift was a game for our wii...so once we opened it, there was much wii play (along with baking gingerbread men & other stuff)
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Damage control for the they need to be distracted tweet. They are now baking gingerbread men (&other stuff). So in addition to individual gifts they get enough family gifts to open one a day until Christmas? I guess she can't claim that she's piecing and patching any more.
SeeSaw said... 183
What I found most fascinating about Serial is that much of it was produced in real time with new information coming in as each podcast was released. I have no strong opinion on Adnan's guilt or innocence. I do believe the investigation was bungled in many ways and that his lawyer was incompetent. Given the lack of evidence and what I would consider reasonable doubt I am surprised he was convicted 15 years ago. I hope we get an update on the Innocence Project's work and whether they ever get to test the DNA. Can't wait to hear what case Serial will cover next.
December 21, 2014 at 5:19 AM
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Serial, broadcasted in real time, became a grass roots effort. Citizens were retracing steps, challenging timelines and looking for the elusive pay phone at Best Buy.
I'm not convinced Adnan is innocent, but it is incomprehensible to me, that Adnan could have enlisted the help of "Jay" in the way Jay describes.
Can you imagine your friend calling you to come meet him and then he shows you the dead body of his ex, whom he just killed? Further, to go along with the process of and assisting in getting her buried, for HOURS?
I mean, who was Adnan? A latter-day Whitie Bolger?
Jay capitulates to helping bury Hae or he swims with 'da fishes?
It make no sense at all.
Yes, Adnan's lawyer seemed very strange and I found the demand to pay her with cash, in ridiculous amounts, to be suspect.
I was amazed that even after her death, Adnan speaks highly of her.
Wow. Jon finally upped one on TFW! And it wasn't even his fault! haha
When you google kate gosselin, the very first item is JON! haha and the article about Jon and the kids Christmas.
Here is the kicker: the headline reads:
Jon Gosselin: How He Will Celebrate the Holidays with His Kids!
Bwahahaha! Bet that chapped her good! Especially the gift everyday till they leave for Jon's. I hope she enjoys her little mini vacation with TFM!
I fell asleep listening to Serial and clicked it back on as soon as my morning coffee was brewed.
Compelling!
The "breadcrumbs" left by posters here have always led to something interesting and memorable. Thank you.
Classic TFW code speak. She doesn't say she was playing the
Wii game with the kids. She doesn't say the kids were helping her
bake. But the language was just vague enough to try to convey
both. And "other stuff" is vague enough to mean absolutely
nothing. No pictures, no proof -- right, fans?
For someone so concerned about finding good role models for the
G boys, Gladys sure does seem to hate men.
Tucker's Mom I agree that Jay is the biggest mystery. Unless he killed her (and I don't think he did) or is protecting someone else (who?), why would he lie? Did they kill her together? Was it an accident? So many unanswered questions.
NJGal51 said... 186
@Kateplusmy8: Today's family gift was a game for our wii...so once we opened it, there was much wii play (along with baking gingerbread men & other stuff)
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Damage control for the they need to be distracted tweet. They are now baking gingerbread men (&other stuff). So in addition to individual gifts they get enough family gifts to open one a day until Christmas? I guess she can't claim that she's piecing and patching any more.
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Did she ever tweet that each of them was going to open a gift? I haven't read all her tweets, but the only one I remember was this one:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Decided this yr 2 open r family gifts, 1 daily til Christmas bc they r items we can use2entertain/distract:) Lex:Like Hanukkah? Me:Oh yeah!
No mention was made of each child opening a gift, which would have been 48 gifts...only a "family gift."
Blowing - I wasn't saying in my post above that they were opening individual gifts daily. I guess I could have worded it better but what I meant to say was they get enough family gifts that they can open one of them daily. I guess the piles of individual gifts that it takes her so long to wrap (not rap) will be opened when they get home from Jon's.
No photo of a half-lit, ornament-deprived Christmas tree yet?
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It's pathetic that Kate's most ardent toadies are praising her brilliance for giving the kids presents every day until Christmas.
As if every parent on Earth should have thought of that!
I should have cried bored as a kid. Oh, wait, that's right, I was too busy playing and having fun in my mediocre house in my mediocre neighborhood with my mediocre friends, and going to see Santa and buying presents for my parents and doing really special, fun things like seeing The Nutcracker.
Since I have iTunes, I went and found Serial. Wow. It is good.
What I don't understand is when A told J that he was going to kill H, WHY didn't J as soon as he got away from him, go to the police? The police could of called the school, got H to a safe place there and put a wire on J and get him on tape.
It drives me nuts when you see crime shows that show someone wanting to kill someone and find someone to do it for them for a little or a lot of money and they just go and kill someone they may or not know. Why not say, I will have to think about it, I really need the money, but I will have to decide and I will call you back tomorrow to meet somewhere. Then call the police and there would be plenty of time to get things set up to catch them trying to hire someone to kill who they want dead.
Also, when Sarah called A in prison to tell him about the girl talking to him in the library, I figured he would get really excited about it and when he didn't, I was a disappointment.
It seems plausible that Adnan got in an argument with Hae things got heated he choked her and accidentally killed her. Jay's story doesn't all add up however it doesn't make sense he would lie either. His story matches up with the cell towers and the call to Adnan's ex most likely was made by Adnan. Those two things are hard to explain away and Adnan's explanation is I don't know. I think Adnan did it.
Yes, Tucker. We never hear about the kids going to The Nutcracker - which everyone should see at Christmas-or other plays/shows other than those of pop stars.Didn't TFW say she wanted to 'culture' them? I like to see at least one choral show this season and used to take my kids to some type of Christmas concert or ballet every year.
What I don't understand is when A told J that he was going to kill H, WHY didn't J as soon as he got away from him, go to the police?
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That part didn't bother me. For lots of people the answer is never go to the police. Even for something major. That I know for a fact. Jay pretty much explained that.
Did anyone find Adnan too polite? Not angry enough for an innocent man?
He came across as bit "aw shucks", but when Koenig dug up his stealing money from his mosque, Adnan sure did get his hackles up.
I understand that bringing that up seemed superfluous in the sense that it doesn't make anyone a murderer, and it could be that Adnan felt vilified by what was really a petty crime.
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