Less than a week after Elizabeth Lauten went off on Facebook about the president's teen daughters for acting bored at the annual turkey pardoning, she has stepped down.
Lauten criticized the girls' outfits as inappropriate and said they were making faces.
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Point being, the girls were made into a big joke which I think for most people was all good natured. Laughing with them, or with the parents of teens, not AT them. Nonetheless, how could this clip not mortify them? What teen wants CNN to slow-mo your expressions?? It's like they didn't even think about this.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/11/27/nr-jones-obama-daughters-turkey-pardon.cnn.html
So is CNN being lambasted for zeroing in on the girls, showing their facial expressions in slo mo?
Nonetheless, how could this clip not mortify them? What teen wants CNN to slow-mo your expressions?? 1
None, of course. It's a silly but harmless tradition. They reacted like typical teens. So be it. Most of us got through those years with only family photos, thank God.
Then there are those pushed onto a major morning show and told to bash their Dad.
What a world.
Retraction!!!
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Ok, I take your points. A little sad that I was duped again, I guess. Bringing the girls' short skirts and eye rolling into the political game was wrong but I had hoped Lautens was sincere...but it's so a nasty in politics where anything and everything is a target.I hate the political ads that really bash the opponents. Stick to the points of your platform. And unfortunately other articles took up the slack, opinion polls were created...that's what I meant by non-story- was it that important and was it right to judge two girls? No.
sayitisntso said... 77
Bringing over from last thread....
Just checked the TLC line up for shows to be broadcast and no signs of K+8, and Cake Boss through 12/8. Primary Shows listed most frequently are Say Yes to the Dress, 19 Kids and Counting, and the Little Couple. Hoarding, What Not to Wear, and 90 Day Fiancee appear to run second.
Who knows what is going to happen with K +8 or Cake Boss, with the recent HBB exposure. Seems to me that TLC is weighing out their choices carefully. As they should.
I will say that 90 Day Fiancee (to a lesser degree) and Hoarding:Buried Alive are both exploiting mental illness and desperation!! Neither show is worth viewing, JMO.
Hope you all enjoyed a wonderful Thanksgiving!! And my condolences to Franky on your sad loss.
I am so sorry Franky
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Elizabeth-Lauten-arrest-786543 People in glass houses and all that jazz....
Do you think TLC will fall for this and let HBB on tv again? Considering she is not the brightest bulb I think she believes this is a way to get their show back. Even if she did stop seeing the perv, the show should not come back but then they let child abuser Kate back so who knows.
Mama June
I May Get Back with Sugar Bear
http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/30/mama-june-sugar-bear-mark-mcdaniel-honey-boo-boo/
The comment was addressed to the girls. In it, she bashed their parents, saying that they weren't good role models. That's way out of line. Kind of like what Kate does when she throws Jon under the bus. It's bad enough that she criticized the girls, but she actually had the nerve to throw in her opinion of their parents. Bad, just bad.
Midnight yes. And she was bashing teens for doing normal teen things like trying out a more risky style or finding their dad unfunny. Their skirts were short but all teens are dressing like this. Maybe the Obamas have decided to pick their battles with them and that it's not worth a firestorm over a stupid skirt. It's a perfectly reasonable parenting choice to let this one go.
So sorry for you loss Franky.
And she was bashing teens for doing normal teen things
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Kind of like people bashing a 6yr old Maddy for being a 6yr old or Maddy being a teen.
Their skirts were short but all teens are dressing like this. 10
Not that I care how they dressed, but remember that they are both tall and the skirts may appear shorter than they actually are. I know this from personal experience, having very long legs. Either way, they should be off limits.
Lauten was wrong, wrong, wrong. I put myself into the shoes of the parent, and I would be so angry if someone publicly criticized my child and then, just for good measure, called me out on my parenting. How dare she? Disgraceful and I'm glad she resigned. What a jerk.
These two girls had no real choice in whether their dad ran for president and then got elected president. They have had to deal with being placed in the public spotlight at various appearances, and I think they do the best they can. But unless they were flipping the bird at the cameras, or doing something illegal - leave them alone.
This shows the level to which politics has degenerated in this country, and it's a disgrace. Where is this woman's common decency? She apparently has none, preferring instead to try to score some mean-spirited political points at the expense of two teenagers. I doubt she will take this opportunity to examine her motives, her beliefs, and her soul, and ask herself: Is this who I really am? Do I like myself? Have I lost my way in demonizing my political opponent that I would stoop to calling out his children for behaving like children? But I hope that part of her realizes that she needs to step back and re-connect with her humanity.
Maybe the Obamas have decided to pick their battles with them and that it's not worth a firestorm over a stupid skirt. It's a perfectly reasonable parenting choice to let this one go.
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That's exactly what I thought as soon as I saw Sasha's short dress. I bet there was much angst and eye darting from staffers, but evidently, Mrs. Obama let Sasha choose what she wanted to wear.
Anyone can deduce this, so taking shots at a teen who chose to wear this to a turkey pardoning, NOT a bar, is crap.
Implying that (based on this one little vignette)Sasha and Malia show no class and the hem of their dress conveys that they don't demand respect is an affront to feminism and hints to me that Lauten understands nothing about women and their deserving of not being objectified.
Hi everyone! I feel like I've been away for a few weeks, although I have checked in from time to time. My home closed in early November, and I had 30 days to find a new place and move out. It has been hectic, to say the least. In addition to moving, we also down-sized. My son and I spent Saturday and Sunday trying to do a final clear out of the remaining "stuff" in the house and got quite a bit of it done. Thank goodness that Goodwill has a drive through drop off that is open on Sundays!
I still need to have a junk guy come haul away what remains, and I need to pack up some china to put into storage. I wanted to give it away, but my son wants to keep it.
In the meantime, we lost another family member, to multiple sclerosis. She had lived with MS for over 20 years, with the last few years spent in a nursing home. My heart aches for her children, but for her, it was a merciful release from the disease.
On another note, my son is now driving and has his own (first) car. It was very hard to see him drive off on his own that first time, and I prayed hard that he would be safe. With each passing day, it gets a little easier, and he is a good driver. The benefit to me is that I have more freedom as well -- no more school drop offs/pick ups. The insurance increase? No doubt about it -- it hurts! LOL
Some of the reasons I don't think Lauten's apology was sincere....
She never said she was sorry to the girls...just to those who were offended. Which presumably includes the girls...but still, her original message was TO them, therefore her apology needs to be TO them.
She insulted the girls' parents, too, saying they were poor role models. Where's the apology to them?
She never took responsibility...she never 'owned' what she'd said....she said she was reacting to an article she was reading, thereby saying...look! other people were saying it too! It wasn't just me! I didn't say it first! She wasn't being accountable for what *she* said.
She invoked religion inappropriately...as in see? I'm religious...I pray about stuff...that counts for something, doesn't it? Mitigates some of what I said. I mean, I prayed for *hours* about this!
A lame attempt to invoke family. Who cares what her parents think. She's a grown-ass adult. She's all ...see? I consult my parents about stuff cuz I'm all about family. That should mitigate some more of what I said.
What she said in the original post probably IS what a lot of her cronies were saying. The problem is that she publicized it. Bad, bad, bad. Never say that stuff out loud. And for that reason only, she will be forced to resign.
Can't have your staff running around saying out loud stuff she's heard around the office.
What she should have said was:
Dear Malia and Sasha,
I am so sorry for what I said to you in an earlier post. I can only imagine the hurt I must have caused you. I'm sorry.
OT canine question. We live in the northeast. I just gave Roo the last of her flea/tick meds - nexguard. Should I stop for the winter or purchase more?
Normally I would give the benefit of the doubt on apologies but I have to agree I didn't like hers much. She actually said she had to pray for hours to realize she was wrong. Wow, that took hours? She should have realized it right away if she had decency.
I actually prefer adults not agonize over every stupid hemline. It's just a hemline. You can't see anything. They will get older and find their own styles and laugh at some of their outfit choices as teens. I think adults who are absolute hard asses on everything tend to create division with their kids and that's not healthy either. Also these kids are from young and hip Chicago they are not Duggars who dress dowdy.
Midnight Madness said... 9
I tried to think of how to word what you wrote because that bothered me too. You said what I was thinking. There was no reason to bash her parents.
Even in ca I stop for the winter on flea treatments though not as long, usually for December to maybe March. Never had a flea problem Rhymes in betting any vet will tell you use it year round but any layman will tell you it's not a problem to stop for the winter.
As far as politics degenerating. I don't know about that. We have a long history of being dirty and nasty. At least we don't duel to the death anymore like our treasury secretary and Vice President did in 1804.
Someone at the Washington Post agrees:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/11/30/nothing-classy-about-elizabeth-lautens-criticism-of-the-obama-girls/
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 19
Normally I would give the benefit of the doubt on apologies but I have to agree I didn't like hers much. She actually said she had to pray for hours to realize she was wrong. Wow, that took hours? She should have realized it right away if she had decency.
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That was my thought too. I don't see how it could take hours of prayer to realize what she posted was wrong. If it really did take hours of prayer, plus talking to her parents --- then it sounds like she really needs to get some counseling. For a grown woman not to have this basic understanding of why children should be off-limits to the type of public criticism you might direct toward a political opponent, shows that something is quite lacking in this woman's morality.
Rhymes with Witch said... 18
OT canine question. We live in the northeast. I just gave Roo the last of her flea/tick meds - nexguard. Should I stop for the winter or purchase more?
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Unless you live in perma freeze, year round all the way.
Last week, a bloated tick the size of a jelly bean fell off my dog, and he's on flea and tick!
That little tick bastard might have gotten a meal out of my dog, but it was his last.
Haha here's the Bye Felicia thing again:
WHY #BYEELIZABETH NEEDS TO REPLACE #BYEFELICIA
http://verysmartbrothas.com/why-byeelizabeth-needs-to-replace-byefelicia/
Buddy plead guilty to DUI at a hearing this morning.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/01/cake-boss-drunk-driving-guilty-plea/
http://verysmartbrothas.com/why-byeelizabeth-needs-to-replace-byefelicia/
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Yes, tall and thin does this. My dd is tallish with looooong legs and thin. She could never meet the middle school requirements for shorts where they had to be longer than your fingers with your hands down. Shorts that long fell off of her, an shorts that fit her around the waist were too short.
Rhymes with Witch said... 18
OT canine question. We live in the northeast. I just gave Roo the last of her flea/tick meds - nexguard. Should I stop for the winter or purchase more?
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I give mine year-round. Especially if you go to a groomer, or even a pet store or dog park you don't want roo catching fleas from another animal!
Tucker's and local, thanks. No offense Admin, but Roo goes to day care on a regular basis. I have a month to resupply and really we're looking at an extra 3 months worth of meds. She's the light of my life.
http://verysmartbrothas.com/why-byeelizabeth-needs-to-replace-byefelicia/
I think.we could add byekatie to this.
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I give mine year-round. Especially if you go to a groomer, or even a pet store or dog park you don't want roo catching fleas from another animal!
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Same here. The dogs and cats get their flea applications year round. They go to the groomer on a regular basis, and better safe than sorry.
I live where the temperature can go down to -40 C for many months, so I treat all 5 dogs until October, then again begin in May. Last March the ticks begin coming out in the last week, so you have to keep an eye on them.
I went over to the Discovery Store yesterday, and most of every TLC show has things you can buy. But not for TFW, just crickets:)
Yea! glad to hear she resigned. She should be very shameful, she is nothing more than a bully. I saw nothing wrong with the girls clothes, most teen dress that way, a few dress like Kardashians, the Obama girls did not. Their actions were totally typical of teens. Yes, teens do roll their eyes, a lot. I did not see what this idiot saw, in their manners or dress. I glad she resigned, though I would have preferred her to be fired.
If these idiots are going to attack the President on his administration, then attack him, but leave his family alone, unless they really do something to get arrested. The Obama girls have , from what I have seen to have wonder manners, dress, and they have never done anything to get in trouble, they are not wild.
I think that Elizabeth had a big stick up her but. JMO.
She invoked religion inappropriately...as in see? I'm religious...I pray about stuff...that counts for something, doesn't it? Mitigates some of what I said. I mean, I prayed for *hours* about this!
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I know! I thought the same thing. Nothing like throwing religion into the mix to show what a devout, spiritual person you are. She certainly didn't pray before she bashed the girls and their parents, but had to pray to find out if an apology should be forthcoming? She appears to be very shallow, and yes, not classy at all. The finger pointing at the girls and their parents has pointed right back at her.
Millicent, thank you for keeping us updated on how you're doing.
I'm so sorry for your loss, too. MS can be quite cruel.
If your son is a chip off the old block, he'll be a great driver!
Hoo boy, when Kate has to pay for 8, count 'em 8, additions to her auto insurance policy, look out.
PA ain't cheap.
Sasha, and Malia, I am sorry I posted here on the blog about you at the Turkey pardoning.
I am also sorry to the Ladies of the Veranda!
For a grown woman not to have this basic understanding of why children should be off-limits to the type of public criticism
Agree! There's also the fact that you're the communications director for a representative of the opposing political party. Another HUGE reason not to go after the other guy's kids.
Speaking of resigning--BC has resigned from Temple's Board of Trustees.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20141202_Cosby_steps_down_from_Temple_s_board_of_trustees.html
On a positive note I think it's very encouraging that most people seemed to react with outrage to Elizabeth's comments. It shows we have come far in terms of people understanding why children deserve protection from things like this. The only "much ado" comment I saw was from a drive by here. Everyone else gave her the outrage she deserved for going after some teens just being teens who in the past have proven to be easily embarrassed and sensitive just like most kids their age are. It's good that people recognize they are not fair game.
franky and Millicent - I am so very sorry for the loss you have each suffered. I hope you will find some peace and comfort from happy memories of your loved ones.
I don't know...the Obamas don't ask much of their girls as far as public appearances go, (and they definitely shouldn't), but is it too much to ask a teenager to be pleasant and engaged for a televised national tradition that doesn't take very long? I don't think so. When we were younger, dad had a business and if we ever ran into any of his clients, it was always, "Smile, and be polite. Show respect." The eye rolling would have gotten us grounded. The same now goes for my children and our business. JMO.
I don't think it's too much to ask that a child be pleasant and not roll their eyes at you. But that's between the Obamas and their girls. They may very well have had a talking to them afterward. But again that's really between them and the girls and not for the public to get involved in. They don't make their parenting public and it shouldn't be fair game for some staffer to blast it. I don't see any show called Barrack and Michelle plus Two!
I don't know...they put their kids out there and their behavior was commented on. Kate puts her kids out there and we comment on their behavior...the hitting, poor sportsmanship, etc. and say it's a reflection of her parenting. You're right, there was no need for the staffer to blast something that everyone saw. It was a thought she should have kept to herself. I just think there are times when "typical teen" doesn't cut it. Step up and be a polite, young adult.
Hasn't TFW wore her dresses as short or shorter than the Obama girls?
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I agree with you- it is a double standard of us in a way. I now agree that Lautens was not sincere and her resignation will haunt her forever. She went way too far in commenting and in her comments. But I do think the Obama kids are old enough to act and dress a little more appropriately for the occasion and still be allowed to be regular kids most of the time. Being part of the First Family is an unsolicited position yet there are certain expectations.
But the Obamas haven't tried to sell us their parenting. Kate has. I don't see it as a double standard at all. Parents that want their parenting private don't blog about it or do reality shows about it or tweet about it. Whether you're the president or the parents next door they deserve their parenting to be off limits. But if you want to put it out there and sell it as a commodity you can bet it's fair game. From Pw to Kate to the little people to mommy bloggers. Parents have a clear choice. In all cases though the kids themselves should never be attacked.
I just think there are times when "typical teen" doesn't cut it.
True enough. And there is a difference between public behavior and private behavior. What might be overlooked at home as typical teen behavior is not ok as public behavior. Especially when you're the president's kids. Lol.
If the woman had addressed only the behavior - eye-rolling or whatever - and not their attire, nor their parents' role modeling abilities, there probably wouldn't have been such an outcry.
And...as the communications director for a representative of the opposing party she needed to recognize that her posting is going to carry much more weight than some random woman's posting on FB. Who addressed only behavior and not a bunch of other stuff.
That was one mean-spirited post. She got a lot into those few sentences.
Ingrid said... 21
Midnight Madness said... 9
I tried to think of how to word what you wrote because that bothered me too. You said what I was thinking. There was no reason to bash her parents.
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I think the sly dig at the Obamas was the whole point of the post. It may have been addressed to the girls, but it was really an attack on the President and First Lady. See, "not only are your policies all wrong, but you don't show enough respect for me to force your kids into the Dugger-wear and seen-but-not-heard eyes-lowered pseudo-respect that I think this solemn occasion demands." God, you'd have thought they were giggling at a funeral. It was a cheesy photo-op.
When I first heard of the turkey pardoning, it was on the West Wing, and I thought it was something over-the-top they made up for the show to illustrate how vapid things have become. Was very surprised to find out it's real.
Ingrid (8)
I don't think TLC has any interest in bringing back HBB any time soon. I was surprised last week to see that several episodes of HBB were scheduled for Dec. 3. They are not on the schedule any longer. NO K+8, no Cake Boss, no HBB. Perhaps TLC has had enough controversy for awhile.
I just think there are times when "typical teen" doesn't cut it. Step up and be a polite, young adult.
December 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM
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"Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar." and "...try showing a little class." are a far cry from suggesting that these young girls mind their manners and not roll their eyeballs.
A bar? Sasha is 13 years old.
She might as well have said Sasha looked like a $2 hooker. No, it wasn't said, but it sure was implied.
In the 6 years that Obama has been in office, Sasha and Malia have dutifully made appearances without incident, and in the big picture, the Obama's have allowed the public to have mere glimpses into their children's lives, which is quite different from deliberately using them for money and fame.
If this GOP staffer had suggested that the young Obama ladies could have shown better manners, I don't think this would have become the shit storm that it has.
Instead, Lauten chose to publicly scold them, and at the same time, let them know that it just isn't their fault, given their shitty parents.
I have no idea what this says about Lauten's parents, who once upon a time, had a teenage girl who was arrested for misdemeanor larceny for stealing from a Belk's department store.
Yes, prairiemary, I think so. The silver short dress with the gray stripes at the Grove? doing the interview and she didn't want to take pictures with the fans and Steve told her to. It looked like a long top to me.
The horrible, mean, vile look on her face when she got done posing with the fans walking away made me think, oh, oh, Steve's gonna get it, Steve's gonna get it!
Mathgirl et al. About the turkey pardon
http://m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/11/23/definitive-history-presidential-turkey-pardon
I also don't like the implication that bad parenting and role modeling resulted in this. Lots of very good parents have challenging teens. Most even. It's teens for goodness sake. How would she like it if her parents were blamed for her arrest as a youth. It doesn't matter how good of a parent you are, when your daughter wants to put on a short skirt or roll her eyes she's going to do so. They may have talked to them about this after so that's another reason it's very unfair to blame poor parenting without knowing exactly what parenting happened here.
You can really see the difference from the girls in the 2010 turkey pardon video. They thought their dad was hysterical and the younger one was swaying and smiling happily the whole time.
And then the teen years hit.
They're not bad kids they're just teens. I think Elizabeth should have thought back to all the emotions and angst teens feel and cut them some slack. They will outgrow this phase and turn out fine.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 47
But the Obamas haven't tried to sell us their parenting. Kate has
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He's not exploiting his kids like Kate either. Also unlike Kate he has a j-o-b.
It seems Ms. Lauten was busted twice for speeding and shoplifting when she was a teen. That is more serious than a short skirt on a teen. Get out of the glass house before you throw those stones,
The girls looked nice, although the skirts could have been a tad longer. That is how the kids dress today.
By double standard I meant that the O kids are in public because of their father's position. Not their choice. While it is vastly different, the G kids are also in 'public' b/o their parents' ahem, 'career'. Not comparing apples to oranges. I think any rude comments on either set of kids are wrong, but it happens because they are on TV etc even if only rarely for S and M .I meant we discuss the G kids and we are saying we should not discuss the O kids. We try to be respectful- like Admin blanking out the faces and no commenting on physical attributes etc.I think the O's have done a great job giving their children a normal-ish childhood.But some appearances do go along with the position and comments are inevitable. I stand by the opinion they should have behaved in a little more dignified manner; maybe the skirts a little longer. See? I did it again...!
I watched the clip again and didn't really see anything wrong with the girls' behavior or attire. What I saw was typical teenage behavior and bravo to POTUS and FLOTUS for raising them to feel comfortable enough to roll their eyes when dad is being corny. He may be POTUS to us but to them he's just dad and all dads (and moms) embarrass their kids by just being.
Maybe instead of praying after the fact about whether to issue an apology, she should have done some soul-searching and praying about what led her to even make such a mean-spirited comment. It was nasty.
prairiemary said... 45
Hasn't TFW wore her dresses as short or shorter than the Obama girls?
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Quite possibly. Ask Milo!
TFW really does need to be praised on a daily basis, doesn't she? She tweeted a picture of ten stockings hanging on the mantel. Tweeties are gushing about the beauty of it all...the work, how does she have time to do all of this? Geez...she set the hanger things with the attached hooks on the mantel and hung the stockings on them. Not exactly rocket science, but she's Super Mom, doing it all.
10 stockings? Is the 10th for Jon, Steve, Shoka, or Zorro?
@Kateplusmy8: From Turkey overload to Christmas cheer... This happened yesterday...so fun... #MerryChristmas2All pic.twitter.com/YgAxmvFRGI
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Well Hell's bells. I hung our stockings, decorated the tree, put up the outside lights/decorations AND finished everything with enough time to cook dinner and watch The Walking Dead. I am superwoman!
This was 5 days ago and kate hasn't even bothered to retweet it.
Sandie @SandieBellz · Nov 26
@Kateplusmy8 Please retweet. Natalie, a single mom, lost her bakery in Ferguson. http://www.gofundme.com/nataliescakesnmore … http://img.ly/ACpd @Ferg_Natalie
Long time lurker, first time poster here. I've wanted to post before, but never did because most of my views towards Kate and her antics are mostly in line with the majority of posters here.
The main reason I'm coming out of the lurk zone is to ask, respectfully, that your political views remain private. It's pretty obvious which posters are Obama supporters. It's pretty unrelated to the Gosselin saga and in my opinion, I really don't care to hear the bashing of the person who posted about the Obama girls.
It's one of the most trivial and least important topics in the news. This person didn't' commit a crime, she simply stated her opinion. She was wrong to criticize the Obama girls, but I doubt they care or will have any long term trauma over it.
Thanks for the amusing recaps, Admin, they were fun to read. But some of the most opinionated posters are simply too much. No names, but wow, some of you need to try meditation or yoga. Strident much?
Sorry if I offended anyone-I follow several political blogs and this subject doesn't belong here.
Thanks - peace to all and happy pontificating
Tara
@Kateplusmy8: From Turkey overload to Christmas cheer... This happened yesterday...so fun... #MerryChristmas2All pic.twitter.com/YgAxmvFRGI
I'll bet lots of people will do that now. She's such a trailblazer.
Redbirdsings - I hate to stick up for TFW but she did retweet that on the 26th.
@Kateplusmy8: RT @SandieBellz: @Kateplusmy8 Please retweet. Natalie, a single mom, lost her bakery in Ferguson. http://www.gofundme.com/nataliescakesnmore http://img.ly/ACpd
pic.twitter.com/YgAxmvFRGI
Good grief! What's with the anaemic-looking berries on the mantle? What a pathetic effort. And people are praising her for this hot mess? Two snowflakes and some letters? I wonder what she did with the other 23 hours and 55 minutes of her day. That's really a sad, sad sight.
PJ
Janice Dickinson is on CNN LIVE with Don Lemmon doing a live interview, now. 9:13 pm, CST at my place.
Has Milo tweeted on her queen stocking pic yet....
Two snowflakes and some letters. 68
Like I said, half assed and expecting kudos.
@Kateplusmy8: From Turkey overload to Christmas cheer... This happened yesterday...so fun... #MerryChristmas2All pic.twitter.com/YgAxmvFRGI
If the white painted fireplace mantle in the pic is any indication of changes made during the remodel/updating, it looks like TFW modernized and lightened things up and got rid of the natural wood on the trim in the house.
Dun dun dun:
StephanieBissol @megansgot47 52m52 minutes ago
Best Apprentice ever. Can't wait to see @Kateplusmy8 and @BrandiGlanville 2 of my favorite bitches!
Brandi Glanville @BrandiGlanville 12m12 minutes ago
@megansgot47 @Kateplusmy8 even if we might not get along ? ;) gotta watch!
Sheri said...72
...looks like TFW modernized and lightened things up and got rid of the natural wood on the trim in the house.
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Of course, she would do that. She takes natural things and makes them unnatural. Like treating your kids like beloved kids, the animals like beloved pets. Her facial features full of botox and plastic.
Thanks NJGal51. Well, I am glad she did. When I saw the tweet, I thought I didn't see the retweet and I looked for it and didn't see it.
Two snowflakes and some letters?
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The letters are stocking hooks, don't you know? LOL! It took quite a bit of organization to line them up correctly to spell out the words. The stockings are all facing the same way, more or less, so this, too, was a creative effort.
I think the mantel looks fine. Simple, but pretty. If she thinks it's wonderful, that's all that matters. It's their fireplace and no doubt all she can really do because she is not a decorator. There was no need, however, to tweet this, and there really aren't a zillion sheeple gushing over it.
Why in the world would someone publicly blast the teenage girls of a sitting president for acting like teenagers when they themselves were ARRESTED as a teenager? That's just stupid.
Kate had bare, wobbly, old lady wrinkly (ew!) thighs showing with that silver tunic she wore as a dress.
At least the O girls had tights or something on.
localyocal...said 73
Wow. Brandy even tweeted that to kate. Must of been some fireworks!
Sherri, if that is modernized for her, it's still not star quality. Our house is almost 30 years old and that is our original white mantel/marble tile/floor. We added a gas fireplace like that about 10 years ago, but it's lighter than that. We are definitely not stars or spending $$$! It'll be interesting to see what was updated if those episodes ever see the light of day!
Brandi Glanville @BrandiGlanville 12m12 minutes ago
@megansgot47 @Kateplusmy8 even if we might not get along ? ;) gotta watch!
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Hello Brandi!
Oh I can't wait for this.
Brandi is used to confronting people and calling people out. That's highly encouraged on RH. This is the big girls now.
If the white painted fireplace mantle in the pic is any indication of changes made during the remodel/updating, it looks like TFW modernized and lightened things up and got rid of the natural wood on the trim in the house.
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That fireplace was not changed. She tweeted a similar picture last year.
Here is this year's picture:
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/539558425156661249/photo/1
This is last year's picture:
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/416000296117362688
Last year's picture showed statues and Christmas trees on top of the mantle. Wonder if she sold those at the yard sale. The lighting was much better, too. This year's picture is awfully dark.
Here are a couple of promos for CA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2TPKbj_cCU&index=2&list=UUdaXK2HDTAlcNlyLLmNCJ4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhZ8YbH-lU&index=1&list=UUdaXK2HDTAlcNlyLLmNCJ4g
In the second video, check out Kate at the :14 mark. Of course, she has to use the number "8" to promote herself.
Sherri said... 72
@Kateplusmy8: From Turkey overload to Christmas cheer... This happened yesterday...so fun... #MerryChristmas2All pic.twitter.com/YgAxmvFRGI
If the white painted fireplace mantle in the pic is any indication of changes made during the remodel/updating, it looks like TFW modernized and lightened things up and got rid of the natural wood on the trim in the house.
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Other than the chairs sitting beside it, the fireplace looks pretty much the same as it did last Xmas.
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/416000296117362688/photo/1
Of course, she would do that. She takes natural things and makes them unnatural.
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It's not just Kate who does that. Painting is in right now. I've seen some gorgeous woodwork and trim being painted over. The owners just didn't like natural woodwork because it was too dark and just not trending! A friend of mine bought a home with a stunning kitchen in medium oak, very warm, homey and inviting. A week later, the entire thing was painted off-white. It was cold and sterile, but it's what they wanted.
Speaking of the airing of the episodes. Fans keep asking when they will see "the new season," but she's ignoring them.
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/416000296117362688/photo/1
Last year's stocking picture. Mantel is the same finish, she didn't lighten it, but she's missing a few trees, Mary, Joseph and Jesus!
Speaking of the airing of the episodes. Fans keep asking when they will see "the new season," but she's ignoring them.
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That's interesting. I wonder if she hasn't even been told the air date herself. If she knew but just wasn't allowed to say you would think she would just say that and tell them to stay tuned coming soon. Instead she ignores them? Curiouser and curiouser.
Last year's stocking picture. Mantel is the same finish, she didn't lighten it, but she's missing a few trees, Mary, Joseph and Jesus!
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Same white baseboard trim, too. It looks like she didn't do any painting this year...at least not in that room.
Cosby resigned from the board of directors at Temple.
I think that the sheeple really set the bar low when it comes to Kate. This one thinks the display is lovely:
Nikki A @nikkilou1984 29s29 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 Gorgeous!! Merry Christmas to you all x
Guess who's taking over for Joan Rivers on Fashion Police?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/01/showbiz/kathy-griffin-hosts-fashion-police/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
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Of course TFW has to have 8 in her promo because without them she is nothing. She knows this and that's why she constantly reminds people that she has 8 (count them 8) kids. At about the 10 second mark she's got her normal puss on her face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhZ8YbH-lU&index=1&list=UUdaXK2HDTAlcNlyLLmNCJ4g
I believe that Elizabeth Lauten posting a specific post to the Obama girls was way overboard as they are teens, and have not chosen to be a public figure. They are just teens. Politics are not easy, but she took a short cut to lambast the girls, who did not sign up for public consumption/ridicule. I don't generally comment on politics, as it is a very sensitive matter as with sex, religion and politics.
Likewise, not sure what happened with BC no longer being on Temple BOD, but is was the right thing to do IMO.
"That fireplace was not changed. She tweeted a similar picture last year."
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Kate is a Twit and Auntie Ann, thank you for the correction. I'm red-faced - I should have taken the time to do some verifying before posting. I had a snapshot in my mind of the trim and mantles in the house all still being natural wood and I was wrong. I wonder if TFW's show will ever make it into TLC's lineup and if we'll ever see the remodeling project results. For everyone's sake, I hope she hired someone to help with design decisions. lol
As for painting trim or not - it's a personal preference. My house was built around 1989 and still had the natural wood trim when we bought it in 2005. IMO, the house looked like it was stuck in the 80's (with dentil molding and stenciling in a few rooms, kinda like TFW's), so we gave the place a makeover and had all of the trim, from the window and door trim to the stairs, doors and mantles repainted a bright white. We love it now, but I'm sure some people might question why we covered up all of the wood.
Ok, on the Obama girls thing, I just have to say...
I think younger women, teens, now have a very healthy awareness of their bodies. Yes, some wear short skirts, some wear tight leggings, but they own it and have none of the issues that my generation had at that age (I am 50). They love their bodies, generally, and are not apologetic for that. I think it is great.
To criticize that fearlessness is terrible.
Why do TFW's holiday tweets seem tone deaf to me? Thanksgiving
is about turkey, and Christmas is about wrapping paper and shrieks
of delight x 8. Many people here have expressed a similar sentiment
about her -- that she kinda sorta has an idea of what she's supposed
to think or feel, and comes up with some version that doesn't quite
hit the mark. When things go wrong, she sure as heck finds
the words to complain with. But what I never seem to get from
her tweets is a genuine sense of joy or warmth or, heaven forbid, gratitude, for the extraordinary blessings that have been bestowed upon her.
So Kate managed to drag her kids back on tv? That's horrible, I honestly never thought the day would come...again.Won't it ever end for these kids? Also, who is watching at this point? Why is TLC still interested?
Regarding the Obama girls, I don't think it was too much to ask to act politely for 10 minutes, to be dressed more apropriately and just in general to have a better attitude. "They're teenagers" is a poor excuse in my opinion.There are plenty teenagers who are respectfull and well mannered when it is asked of them, regardless of how bored they may feel.Again, it was a 10 minute ceremony, not a 3 hour talk show. That said, that lady's comment was too much and quite obviously political in nature(clearly she's anti-Obama). She should have voiced her opinion in a more civilized manner.
Also regarding the fact that the Obama girls did not choose to be famous(which is true) and that no one has any right to any opinion about them, I respectfully disagree.Barack Obama, when he decided to run for presidency, considered the public exposure did he not? Therefore he chose this public life for himself and his daughters just like Jon and Kate. Just because he doesn't exploit his daughters doesn't mean no one has the right to ever have an opinion(at least a respectful one).He choose this life for his daughters.
YES 10TH STOCKING FOR SHOKA! ZORROS IS ON HIS CAGE! RT @LeahCF: @Kateplusmy8 ...I count 10 stockings. You have one for doggie too? :)
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Too bad Shoka is not allowed inside to enjoy that warm fireplace.
CA promo video
wish someone had slipped a brick into one of those pillow cases
The mantle pic? That Cardinal bird artwork is waaaay too small for that spot. she has no taste/style.
franky-just caught up on all the comments and also wanted to send my sincerest condolences
Tara, I really don't think you can assume people's political views by their opinion on the Lautens post. It's about the kids, not their father. We try very hard here not to discuss politics because per se because it would surely rock the veranda. But this is an opinion board and mostly we agree to disagree. If someone posts nicely as I think Tucker & others did , something like ' Sorry, I disagree with you..'and state their opinions that's absolutely fine and respectful. You can get added perspectives, different information and a new slant on things.
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Why in the world would someone publicly blast the teenage girls of a sitting president for acting like teenagers when they themselves were ARRESTED as a teenager? That's just stupid.
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I thought this was the blog that says ex-cons crimes should stay in the past, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing more in the present). Didn't I read that here?? Surely a teenage misadventure should be considered to be in the past as well, not to ever be brought up.
Why do TFW's holiday tweets seem tone deaf to me? Thanksgiving
is about turkey, and Christmas is about wrapping paper and shrieks
of delight x 8. Many people here have expressed a similar sentiment
about her -- that she kinda sorta has an idea of what she's supposed
to think or feel, and comes up with some version that doesn't quite
hit the mark.
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You nailed it. It's just the narcissism I think.
Narcissist don't feel what normal people feel or understand normal emotions. But they see on TV or see a friend or family member how things like Christmas are done. So Kate understands there's presents involved, stockings, and hours and hours of decking the halls.
However she is clearly not grasping the cliched real meaning of the season. It's superficial. It's all about putting on the show of a decorated mantel. She has little idea what it's all really for. And I don't mean just religion, I mean the love and coming togetherness of family too.
I think that awful photo from church of the girls with candles was the epitome of her lack of understanding. If she really "got" Christmas, that photo never would have been taken because she would be too busy with her arm around her child enjoying the beautiful moment. But she could only see the superficial aspect of the candles and turned it into a photo op.
localyocul said... 77
Why in the world would someone publicly blast the teenage girls of a sitting president for acting like teenagers when they themselves were ARRESTED as a teenager? That's just stupid.
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I thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing crimes in the present). Surely a teenager's misadventure should be overlooked as well.
thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered
It's not about considering her past crimes....it's all about the hypocrisy of this women's tirade against these 2 young teens.
I thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing crimes in the present). Surely a teenager's misadventure should be overlooked as well.
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Is there a problem Tweet? Why so nasty lately?
First of all, I don't think you can assign one viewpoint to an entire blog. That's incredibly unfair to the diverse posters here whose opinions are as varied as snowflakes. We are individuals here coming together to share, one hopes in a positive manner even if we disagree. I don't appreciate the "gotch-ya" tone of your post. That's not who we are.
As far as someone's criminal history, it's too simple to have a one sized fits all answer. It depends. In the past when I have not cared about someone's criminal history who did their time, it's because it had nothing to do with current circumstances. For instance Kate's sister taking issue with Kate and explaining exactly why, specifically, is irrelevant to her husband having a run in with the law. It doesn't change anything or discrete how she feels about Kate. One has nothing to do with the other. That was brought up simply to hurt and attack the family, as revenge for speaking out, IMO, not in any serious effort to discredit her.
Or trying to use someone's rap sheet about theft or whatever, who is accusing someone of rape, to discredit them. It's such a completely different thing to Lauten that calling it apples and oranges doesn't do it justice. Now, if that rap sheet included a number of charges of PERJURY, or if there was a history of that person making false allegations, then that would be relevant. Otherwise, it's nobody's business. I see a huge difference.
Lauter accused teens of having bad parents because they stepped outside the arbitrary lines she created for them. It is absolutely 100% relevant that she too stepped out of those same exact lines as a teen. It discredits her entire proposition. Now let's say that somewhere in Lauter's history she defaulted on a mortgage or something, as an adult. Would that be relevant or should be made public? To me, no. That's a financial matter and has nothing to do with the opinion she put forth that these teens are "bad." To me, your past history of misdeeds must be relevant to what you are currently saying. Otherwise, I simply do not care.
But, if she went around saying people who default on mortgages are bad people, then it would be relevant.
Recently a local politician had voted to heavily restrict our water use. Well people dug into his records and found out he was using something like five times the average water at his family home. Is that relevant to HIM? You bet it is. Is Lauten's water usage at HER home relevant? Of course not.
If Lauten accused BC of rape, I would be the first to jump up and down and say leave her history OUT OF THIS. The absolute first.
And just so we have the facts right, Lauten is NOT an "ex-con."
She was arrested for a misdemeanor as a minor, and her charges were dropped under a differed prosecution program for first time offenders. That does not make her a convict by any stretch of the imagination. She made a mistake as a teen as all teens did, and she obviously cooperated with a program that allowed that mistake to be forgiven. Good for her.
The point being as Paula said, it's the hypocrisy of it. She herself didn't conform to what she expects of the Obama girls. Why do the Obama girls then have to meet standards she herself did not follow?
Well, so far, nothing is listed on TLC up to Dec 9 or TV Guide up to Dec 14. No K8 listed yet. So when is K8 going to air? During Xmas week?
I bet K8 filmed Xmas.
I suppose we'll hear again this year about the burnt out Xmas tree lights and attending church.
She must be making daily runs to the UPS Store to pick up all those packages of gifts to bribe the kids. Since she never did the Santa thing, she has always made sure those kids are aware that SHE provides the goodies. It's not about religion at all.
And by the way, the people who spoke out about BC were VICTIMS. You're talking about bringing up a VICTIM's past and trying to say it's the same as Lauten?? Huh?
Lauten is not a victim. SHE'S the aggressor. She attacked these girls. She was the nasty one.
I really am astounded that bringing up a rape victim's past could be in any way shape or form compared to the same thing as bringing up Lauten's past.
Well, so far, nothing is listed on TLC up to Dec 9 or TV Guide up to Dec 14. No K8 listed yet. So when is K8 going to air? During Xmas week?
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Wow. See now we're really getting into the dog days of December. You don't typically start a brand new season in the days before Christmas. People aren't in a head space to tackle a new series and this month is so busy for most people while the TV may be on, people aren't really watching as closely because they're in the kitchen or doing other work. Late December is typically a dumping ground of reruns and marathons and holiday themed movies. It seems unwise to start up the show later in the month. It should start now. Curiouser and curiouser.
Sorry Tweet but some of your comments in the past have broken the rules so we didn't publish them.
Well, so far, nothing is listed on TLC up to Dec 9 or TV Guide up to Dec 14. No K8 listed yet. So when is K8 going to air? During Xmas week?
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I agree. I'd much rather have a young person be proud of their body than to do what some of us did as teens and hide it behind big baggy sweaters or fleeces.
If you go into any juniors section it is difficult to find long skirts these days. All they sell is that stuff. Every generation had some kind of style that parents didn't like. In my generation it was grunge and dirty. In my day you couldn't find non-grunge clothes in the juniors. Adults didn't like that. But we survived it and few of us still dress that way anymore!
It's hard to be a teen these days, even harder to do so when all of America knows your name, and I think adults riding their asses of every little thing just makes it worse. They will outgrow most of the stuff that bothers adults in due time anyway. It's the teenage way.
I blast KK but I give her props to and she looks kind of cute in the promo for CA and will I watch maybe.
I still can't stand DT or KK but I might try to watch it.
Don't worry guys I'm sure TLC will slip KK into the line-up some where lol.
I'm betting they're waiting to see how she does on CA then they'll show re-runs of J&K then bam K+8 2015 will be on.
Yes. I didn't publish them because I don't want to be outwitted. You nailed it.
getofftwitter said... 107
Well, so far, nothing is listed on TLC up to Dec 9 or TV Guide up to Dec 14. No K8 listed yet. So when is K8 going to air? During Xmas week?
I bet K8 filmed Xmas
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If Christmas is filmed, it won't be through with production until long after the actual holiday. I remember seeing TLC promos around Thanksgiving, and they were showing clips of Christmas episodes of their shows. One had the Long Island Medium gal dressed as Mrs Claus and helping Santa. How far in advance did they film that in order to have the clip ready by late November?
One problem with the K+8 specials is that they are out of date. Who wants to watch the Gs go on summer vacation at Christmas? Or watch their first day of school at New Year's? It's ridiculous. Or how about a yard sale for Valentine's? TLC should have rushed them into production so they wouldn't be so ill-timed, if they really wanted an audience for them.
A couple months ago someone tweeted about K+8 coming back to TLC, and K responded that yes, they were coming back in December. She seemed giddy about it. Now she doesn't respond at all. Plus, she's posting pictures again on Twitter. She does not post pictures of anything they are filming. People have to wait and watch the episode. The pictures of Halloween costumes, Thanksgiving, and now Christmas decorations seem to mean that these things are not being filmed.
"To me, your past history of misdeeds must be relevant to what you are currently saying. Otherwise, I simply do not care."
Admin, with all due respect but wouldn't this mean that Jon doesn't have the right to point his finger at Kate for exploiting the kids? Even if he did the time(he repented for exploting the 8), according to you he still shouldn't have a say in what is happening right now(kate filming the kids) because he once did it too just like Lauten can't speak against the Obama girl's attitude because she had a bad one as a teenager too. It feels like a double standard to me.
Well, so far, nothing is listed on TLC up to Dec 9 or TV Guide up to Dec 14. No K8 listed yet. So when is K8 going to air? During Xmas week?
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Maybe TLC decided to postpone until after CA's episodes are aired. Kate will be on a major show, and what better way to drum up ratings after she's back in the spotlight again on a major TV network.
BTW, the way I understand it is that CA will air for 2 hours on Mondays(after the Sunday opening show), but they will be airing 2, one hour, back-to-back episodes each Monday, with 2 eliminations on Mondays. So CA's season will not be as long as it has been in the past.
PA Dutch Mom said... 86
It's not just Kate who does that. Painting is in right now. I've seen some gorgeous woodwork and trim being painted over. The owners just didn't like natural woodwork because it was too dark and just not trending! A friend of mine bought a home with a stunning kitchen in medium oak, very warm, homey and inviting. A week later, the entire thing was painted off-white. It was cold and sterile, but it's what they wanted.
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Everyone's taste is different. I don't like oak cabinets so I would have painted them too. It would have nothing to do with painting "trending" and everything to do with my own aesthetic. A home should reflect the personality and style of the people living in it. I have plenty of friends whose homes are decorated in ways that are way outside my personal taste, but I love their homes because they speak to who they are.
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A couple months ago someone tweeted about K+8 coming back to TLC, and K responded that yes, they were coming back in December. She seemed giddy about it. Now she doesn't respond at all. Plus, she's posting pictures again on Twitter. She does not post pictures of anything they are filming. People have to wait and watch the episode. The pictures of Halloween costumes, Thanksgiving, and now Christmas decorations seem to mean that these things are not being filmed.
Exactly! Based on her twitter activity, we can pinpoint exactly when the filming took place.It;s so disgusting because you see Kates Twitter feed empty of kid pics and you think "Hey, she's finally giving them privacy".Um no, she's just trying to make sure she gets good K+8 ratings...
Everyone's taste is different. I don't like oak cabinets so I would have painted them too. It would have nothing to do with painting "trending" and everything to do with my own aesthetic. A home should reflect the personality and style of the people living in it. I have plenty of friends whose homes are decorated in ways that are way outside my personal taste, but I love their homes because they speak to who they are.
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Oh, I agree. The owner lives there and it should be done the way they want it. In this case, however, it was a new $660,000, 5,200 square foot home with custom cabinets done by the best of the best in the area. It was stunning. Now it just looks like every other kitchen out there and the painters didn't do a particularly good job. Even though my preference isn't oak, I would have left it as it was. Sometimes you just don't mess with a good thing.
I don't know, but clearly with HBB, the Cake Boss, and Kate + 8, I think TLC has been forced to make some choices. There are several new shows they are developing and promoting, so with the HBB scandal, they may have been forced to re-evaluate some of their prior choices of shows.
One can only hope, as TFW does not have the same allure she had years ago. Her show is kind of old and tired. JMO
I agree roxy. And Jon seems to own his role. He explained why he exploited his kids in the past and owned his role in it. He also explained why he has decided he no longer agrees to the exploitation. I don't think anyone has suggested his past role in it should be forgotten or excused. ITs a case of different perspectives on things with time and knowledge, not a case of hypocrisy. If he were trying to hide or excuse his role that would be different and hypercritical. He has not.
I read pretty much daily but almost never post. This time, I HAVE to comment.
It really bothers me when people, usually random people, comment to say, "don't talk about this, or that" on this or any blog. There is only one person with the right to decide what is discussed and that is Admin (and her duly appointed Pool Girls, of course). This is HER blog. SHE owns it and any rights anyone has here are here because she allows it. That is the way it is in the blogesphere, and the way it should be. This is HER house, her porch, and she has the final say.
I'm sorry. I'm usually a nice, accepting "Let it go" kind of person, but this particular issue just creams my corn.
Sorry. Go on with the conversation and I'll slip back to my quiet little corner of the veranda.
Hello to all the "new" ladies peeking out of their corner of the veranda. Waving to you....
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 14m14 minutes ago
OK @TLC remember its December! Enough w/the tease please... its time for you to tell us the NEW @Kateplusmy8 episodes airing date!! :)
Gladys is getting restless. You'd think that with all of the private communicating they do every day, she'd know exactly when the shows will air.
I think Lautens comments might have been taken a lot better if she had owned right away her past. Said hey I made some big mistakes as a teen. That doesn't mean we shouldn't expect today's teens to do better than our past mistakes and be held to high standards.
Oh and Milo? I bet TFW doesn't KNOWS when her show will air. Embarrassing huh?
ITs a case of different perspectives on things with time and knowledge, not a case of hypocrisy.
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Yes, and along with time and knowledge is experience. You live and learn. He lived through it; he knew what was involved in filming; he realized what it was doing to the family when the kids were being shoved into the public eye, having to perform on demand. Experience, I believe, taught him so much. He walked in those shoes and didn't observe it from afar.
Admin, I see what you're saying.
I too am curios to see if the new K+8 will end up airing or not. I wish TLC had learned something from the whole HBB debacle.I wish they'd quit it with the all kids shows but as long as they bring them money they probably won't.We'll see.
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I totally agree. I think the K + 8episodes they did film may or may not make it to editing. (much like HBB) and maybe Cake Boss.
With the HBB scandal, and with TLC producing new shows, they may be re-evaluating what shows are a plus to their NEW inventory and which to broadcast and when, if ever.. Time shall tell!
Came back to add that I disagree with part of the statement: "Children, especially the first daughters, are off limits." -Sean Spicer, RNC. Umm, what do you mean especially the first daughters? Why are they more valuable than any other child in the world?
I thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing crimes in the present). Surely a teenager's misadventure should be overlooked as well.
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When I wrote about that woman's past arrest when she was a teen, it wasn't to paint her as a criminal.
It was to point out the irony of what she wrote about the Obama girls, and the inherent hypocrisy of it all.
The point being as Paula said, it's the hypocrisy of it. She herself didn't conform to what she expects of the Obama girls. Why do the Obama girls then have to meet standards she herself did not follow?
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Moreover, Lauten points to the Obama girls' less than appropriate wardrobe and outward demonstration of "I'm so over this" as evidence of their parents' inherent child-raising shortcomings, when certainly, by anyone's definition, shoplifting is a far cry worse.
Following this logic, if one can point to bad parenting based upon a teenagers indiscretions, then exactly how poorly did her parents rate when it comes to raising her?
That finger waggling and "tisk, tisk" mud she slung at POTUS and FLOTUS just came back in her parents' faces 10 fold.
Whoops.
Admin, with all due respect but wouldn't this mean that Jon doesn't have the right to point his finger at Kate for exploiting the kids? Even if he did the time(he repented for exploting the 8), according to you he still shouldn't have a say in what is happening right now(kate filming the kids) because he once did it too just like Lauten can't speak against the Obama girl's attitude because she had a bad one as a teenager too. It feels like a double standard to me.
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What Lauten actually meant to do, quite effectively, is attack Pres. and Mrs. Obama. The girls were collateral damage.
The thrust of what Lauten is saying, is that left-wing liberals make shitty parents, and are shitty people, and you shouldn't trust them to raise kids, let alone be in the White House.
Maybe TLC decided to postpone until after CA's episodes are aired. Kate will be on a major show, and what better way to drum up ratings after she's back in the spotlight again on a major TV network.
BTW, the way I understand it is that CA will air for 2 hours on Mondays(after the Sunday opening show), but they will be airing 2, one hour, back-to-back episodes each Monday, with 2 eliminations on Mondays. So CA's season will not be as long as it has been in the past.
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I could be wrong, but I believe Kate (or/and TLC) said that the new K+8 specials would be airing late Dec. *before* it was announced that CA was picked up, and when it would air.
I would be shocked it TLC does not air the new shows. I think they might be pushing the air date back to capitalize on Kate's appearance on CA.
Remember kids, cat fights and bad behavior=rating and attention!
Retired Techie said... 124
I read pretty much daily but almost never post. This time, I HAVE to comment.
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Great post, and please comment more! I wish more people who enjoy reading would jump in the pool with us.
I read stuff like this and want to hear more about what you think.
The more, the merrier!
PA Dutch Mom said... 126
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 14m14 minutes ago
OK @TLC remember its December! Enough w/the tease please... its time for you to tell us the NEW @Kateplusmy8 episodes airing date!! :)
Gladys is getting restless. You'd think that with all of the private communicating they do every day, she'd know exactly when the shows will air.
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Gladys has been reading here (when doesn't she?) and wants Kate to announce exactly when the new shows will be airing so she can tell us to suck it.
Admin said:
They're not bad kids they're just teens. I think Elizabeth should have thought back to all the emotions and angst teens feel and cut them some slack. They will outgrow this phase and turn out fine.
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I agree. I recall one time when my dad got tickets to the Ice Capades through work, and he took me and my two next youngest sisters. It was a nice thing for him to do --- but being teenagers, we thought we were too cool for Ice Capades and we did giggle a lot during the performance. My dad got irritated with us.
Looking back, I'm sorry we behaved that way. It was immature and inconsiderate. I would never behave that way now.
The teen years are trying for both parent and child. In the grand scheme of things, some eye rolling, a skirt that's perhaps a touch too short, are pretty mild teen behavior. It's not a sign that your parents have done a poor job raising you. In fact, teen rebellion is a necessary part of growing up, separating yourself from your parents, so that you can grow into who you will be as an adult. I've heard that the closer you identified with your parent(s) as a youngster, often times the harder that separation period will be as you break away to form your own identity.
Anyway, I hope this young woman has learned a valuable lesson. Sometimes in life we make very poor decisions. Fortunately for most of us, they aren't as public as this was for Ms. Lautens.
And to the person who doesn't like that we are having this discussion -- if you've been around the blog for any length of time, you know that all sorts of topics come up for discussion. While this one has a political tinge (since it was the President's daughters who were publicly chastised), I don't see it as political. I see it more as a discussion of parenting, boundaries (when is it appropriate to publicly discuss/criticize someone else's children?), lack of professionalism, etc. It just happens to involve people who are in politics.
It could be that TLC filmed another fake Christmas like they did years ago. Maybe their Thanksgiving vacation was a Christmas fake filming? I know some of you are hoping her specials never air, but I suspect the airing will be timely to coordinate with CA. TLC rethink about filming children? No way! And even though TLC filmed old news about the Gosselins during the past months, they do not have to air that footage. I can't figure out why anyone would be interested in her life these days. The only hook can be CA and maybe TLC is hoping to draw in viewers through that.
Really when you think about, Kate will always try to occasionally pop up on TV, but in the scheme of things, she is truly washed up. I would even venture to say those fans who watched years ago will get bored quickly because those cute babies are all grown up. I am just curious to see how this all plays out: the money, Steve, abuse, etc. just like with Bill Cosby, rumors circulated for many years and then one day: BAM!
I would be shocked it TLC does not air the new shows. I think they might be pushing the air date back to capitalize on Kate's appearance on CA.
Remember kids, cat fights and bad behavior=rating and attention!
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I agree that it will air. Kate is twiddling her thumbs, ready for pounce on her Twitter and say, "NOW I can tell you. YAY!"
It's one of those raw, chilly, damp days with wet snowflakes, sleet, drizzle, freezing rain, the whole bag of mixed wintry weather...good day for staying in, wrapping gifts, and getting some decorating done. I was looking at Kate's TL, and with the exception of a few sheeple who stop by to do some butt kissing, it's really slow. It seems that many of them have left the flock. I think the Nicole person has given up, and there's a Griesl fan who keeps begging for tweets, but Kate ignores her. Some of the old diehards, like Barb and Leigh still show up to tell Kate how wonderful she is, but for the most part, many of the regulars are gone. It seems like the haters, with the exception of four or so who live there (one of whom has a very nasty mouth) and jump on random fans, are also gone. I sometimes wonder if those non-fans are like that to people in their own lives, or if they are only miserable and foul-mouthed when they can hide behind their Twitter accounts. I also wonder what would happen to Gladys if they wouldn't take her bait and totally ignore her, never responding or tweeting to or about her. She could no longer be the victim of Twitter harassment and wouldn't be the martyr in support of Kate. The two of them could walk off into the sunset together. Isn't love grand?
Speaking of the airing of the episodes. Fans keep asking when they will see "the new season," but she's ignoring them.
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As others have mentioned, I too have noticed that the TLC commercials for upcoming shows do not include a single mention of Kate+8. It makes me wonder if TLC hasn't made a final decision on whether to even air the episodes they filmed awhile ago (back to school shopping, plus something else). Maybe their advertisers were less than happy with the viewer numbers for the birthday episode. It's impossible to say, since I have no insider knowledge. But the fact that they aren't even mentioning Kate+8 makes me think something is up.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 115
Yes. I didn't publish them because I don't want to be outwitted. You nailed it.
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I don't know who you are responding to, and I don't need to know. Just wanted to say, this made me laugh out loud at my desk, and my co-worker asked what was so funny :)
And to the person who doesn't like that we are having this discussion -- if you've been around the blog for any length of time, you know that all sorts of topics come up for discussion.
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One word. Vinegar!
Tucker's Mom said... 134
What Lauten actually meant to do, quite effectively, is attack Pres. and Mrs. Obama. The girls were collateral damage.
The thrust of what Lauten is saying, is that left-wing liberals make shitty parents, and are shitty people, and you shouldn't trust them to raise kids, let alone be in the White House.
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I absolutely agree. I tried to make the same point earlier, but was not nearly as clear and eloquent as you were. Bravo!
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localyocul said... 77
Why in the world would someone publicly blast the teenage girls of a sitting president for acting like teenagers when they themselves were ARRESTED as a teenager? That's just stupid.
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I thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing crimes in the present). Surely a teenager's misadventure should be overlooked as well.
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I'm not saying they shouldn't be overlooked in general, in fact I'm shocked they are public given she was a minor. I'm just saying she should have known her comments could cause backlash and unless her teenager years were impeccable it was stupid on her part to blast teenagers for being teenagers. I agree that a youthful indiscretion should not define a person, but I don't think people should be hypocrites.
Can't help but wonder if TLC has put the "specials" on hold because of the report that TFW and Steve shared a room during the CA taping. After the Mama June disgrace they probably do not want another scandal involving their "perfect mom" who does everything alone. It does appear the December specials are on ice.
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I could be wrong, but I believe Kate (or/and TLC) said that the new K+8 specials would be airing late Dec. *before* it was announced that CA was picked up, and when it would air.
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I don't recall any articles saying "late" December, they all just said December. Some articles(from Aug. 2014, when the announcement was made) stated "later this year, in December", so maybe that's why you thought it was "late December". Even TLC's press release just said "in December".
http://blogs.discovery.com/tlc-new-now/2014/08/all-new-episodes-kate-plus-eight-will-air-in-december-.html
Kate also tweeted the following back in September. She also said "in December".
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Sep 20
@HalenHg yes! Our show is back and is on weekly in December #Yay
You would think TLC would start promoting it by now if it airs this month. They announced the premiere date(tonight) of The Little Couple a month ago, so why nothing about Kate plus 8?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 105
I thought this was the blog that says ex-con's past crimes should not be considered, i.e., they did their time (even if they're committing crimes in the present). Surely a teenager's misadventure should be overlooked as well.
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Is there a problem Tweet? Why so nasty lately?
First of all, I don't think you can assign one viewpoint to an entire blog. That's incredibly unfair to the diverse posters here whose opinions are as varied as snowflakes. We are individuals here coming together to share, one hopes in a positive manner even if we disagree. I don't appreciate the "gotch-ya" tone of your post. That's not who we are.
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No, I don't appreciate the tone of it either, and it mischaracterized my intent. I never attack posters here but this isn't the first time I've been "slapped" nastily
Came back to add that I disagree with part of the statement: "Children, especially the first daughters, are off limits." -Sean Spicer, RNC. Umm, what do you mean especially the first daughters? Why are they more valuable than any other child in the world?
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Perhaps because the First Daughters (or First Sons) would be used to make a negative political commentary on their father (and mother). Patsies, if you will, or scapegoats. The sins of the father would be visited upon his children, and those kids should be off limits. Lauten's comments clearly reflect that she did just that. It's not that these kids are more valuable than any other child...it's because they would be used to attack their parents. A double whammy.
Can't help but wonder if TLC has put the "specials" on hold because of the report that TFW and Steve shared a room during the CA taping. After the Mama June disgrace they probably do not want another scandal involving their "perfect mom" who does everything alone. It does appear the December specials are on ice.
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Hmm...could be. Look, there are other CA contestants and staff that saw what Kenya saw- has to be. So, it wouldn't be tough to see how TLC doesn't want the story of their "stah" having an affair with a married man, and having exposed her kids to it.
Oh, then there's the lying about it thing.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 149
Perhaps because the First Daughters (or First Sons) would be used to make a negative political commentary on their father (and mother). Patsies, if you will, or scapegoats. The sins of the father would be visited upon his children, and those kids should be off limits. Lauten's comments clearly reflect that she did just that. It's not that these kids are more valuable than any other child...it's because they would be used to attack their parents. A double whammy.
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Any child can be used against their parents.To me that comment sounds like, yeah maybe we'd overlook it if it were another child, but gosh darn it, it's the president's daughters we're talking about here. My point is all children should be off limits.There is no point to the "Especially" part of the comment.That especially suggests they are more special.
I don't appreciate the "gotch-ya" tone of your post. That's not who we are.
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No, I don't appreciate the tone of it either, and it mischaracterized my intent. I never attack posters here but this isn't the first time I've been "slapped" nastily
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I've noticed that there has been a person here recently with that same "got-ya" tone, commenting that a poster has a faulty memory and telling another person that "whatever floats your boat." Posters really don't appreciate that tone and for the most part, everyone on the veranda is respectful when they disagree, and sometime vehemently! There's never an excuse for blog snottiness. As stated in the posting rules, it's just more pleasant being respectful of the opinions of others. If they don't like what's being discussed here, or the opinions of others, there are plenty of other internet sandboxes in which to play.
I see that Denise, the Milo-in-Training has taken over Milo's job as Kate's weather person on call, even posting a picture of the daily temps and conditions. Sheesh! Is Kate incapable of flipping to the 24/7 local weather channel?
Here's what I think is kind of funny, and I'm sure that fans tweet celebrities all the time about their daily routines, but why would Kate possibly care that Barb's sons had eye exams or Barb went to the dentist? I mean, why even bother telling her?
Barbara Gilmer @BarbGilmer 1h1 hour ago
Took twins to eye appt & vision improving, YAY! I went to the dentist & all good as always! All in all a good day! How about u @Kateplusmy8
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And to the person who doesn't like that we are having this discussion -- if you've been around the blog for any length of time, you know that all sorts of topics come up for discussion.
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One word. Vinegar!
Two words. Deviled Eggs!
Dmasy (#154), two more words: crock pots! Or is crockpot
only one word?
I'm surprised Kate doesn''t hang a stocking for herself, which the kids (and pets) will be obliged to fill. She IS the greatest mommy ever and they love to show her that with shrieks of merriment and joy.And gifts.
I'm surprised Kate doesn''t hang a stocking for herself, which the kids (and pets) will be obliged to fill. She IS the greatest mommy ever and they love to show her that with shrieks of merriment and joy.And gifts.
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I thought there was one for her. There are 10 stockings; eight kids, one dog which equals nine. Doesn't the 10th belong to her? She said Zorro's stocking is hanging on his cage.
One word. Vinegar!
Two words. Deviled Eggs!
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lol! Three words. Keg Of Rumspringa.
One word. Vinegar!
Two words deviled eggs!
Crockpots!
These cracked me up and brought back memories. Thanks.
OT. Sorry if I already posted about this but Roo saw snow for the first time last Thursday. She spent her first 2 years in GA.
She put one paw in, took it out and shook it.
She sniffed it.
She tasted it.
The she went flying around the back.yard in big circles and ran to the back door.
It was very entertaining.
It took another excursion before she did her business.
Onanorher note, I discovered why the couch and chair cushions end up on the floor. She burrows her face into the furniture.
Many words about pets.
Let's just say it. This veranda is a wonderful place.
Thanks Admin and the posters here.
Somewhere In Time said... 157
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You're right! I didn't catch on that's Zorro's was on his cage. Wow, who does that in a one-adult family? I guess it's ok unless she fills it herself with expensive items or tells the kids what to get. Since they don't 'do' Santa, why have stockings at all?
Rhymes with Witch said... 159
One word. Vinegar!
Two words deviled eggs!
Crockpots!
These cracked me up and brought back memories. Thanks.
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Bye Felicia!
PBS documentaries!
We Need to Talk about Kevin!
Virtual tours!
Crocks! Muumuus! Pearls!
Kate tweeted that the 10th stocking was for Shoka.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Dec 1
YES 10TH STOCKING FOR SHOKA! ZORROS IS ON HIS CAGE! RT @LeahCF: @Kateplusmy8 ...I count 10 stockings. You have one for doggie too? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 54m54 minutes ago
Well @TLC what is wrong w/thee? We're still waiting for the date? When can we see @Kateplusmy8? #Anticipation. #FunFamilyTv
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Here comes rhymin' Milo. She will be pestering every day. Kate, for the love of all that's holy, call her and tell her and put her out of her misery! Geez!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
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OK @TLC remember its December! Enough w/the tease please... its time for you to tell us the NEW @Kateplusmy8 episodes airing date!! :)
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Milo didn't get an answer to her first tweet, so she tried again.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
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Well @TLC what is wrong w/thee? We're still waiting for the date? When can we see @Kateplusmy8? #Anticipation. #FunFamilyTv
Is she going to keep pestering TLC until they answer her? Milo wants an answer and she wants it NOW!!
Why isn't she pestering Kate? Maybe she dm'd Kate and Kate doesn't know either. The only thing Kate did when others asked about when the show will be aired is retweet the following:
Kate Gosselin retweeted
Jennifer Sulpizi @jensulpizi · Dec 1
It's officially December! Which means @Kateplusmy8 Special airing soon on @TLC 😊
The she went flying around the back.yard in big circles and ran to the back door.
It was very entertaining.
It took another excursion before she did her business.
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LOL! So, courtesy of Roo, you have a back yard full of lemon snow cones? :)
One word. Vinegar!
Two words deviled eggs!
Crockpots!
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Too funny! I was shopping yesterday and there was a special sale on crockpots or crock pots or crock-pots. I already have three large ones and two small ones and was very tempted to buy another one at such a good price. I was thinking about the Queen of Crockpots on this blog and had to laugh...you can never have enough of those things!
Rhymes with Witch said... 159
One word. Vinegar!
Two words deviled eggs!
Crockpots!
Three words. Holiday Cranberry Dish
That was one of my favorites. So many of us remembered the canned sauce with ring marks. So many of us remembered the special dish it jiggled and shimmied on.
Yes. We are a great group!
TLC may respond about the airdate, just to avoid another poem
from Gladys tomorrow. Something like this:
"Well @TLC, it's the 3rd! What's the word? Have you
heard? The airdate for K+8+Shoka+Zorro the bird!? @Need2No@FaveFamily@BatedBreath"
I went back and checked to see when the air date of the first special was announced. I believe People was the first one to announce with a preview clip. That was posted on May 27, and at first they said it would air as a 2 hour special on June 25. Then the next day, TLC posted the preview on their website, and changed it to two 1hour specials, airing on June 19 and June 25.
So even with the first confusion of the actual air date, the announcement was made a full 3 weeks before the first special aired on the 19th.
Three words. Holiday Cranberry Dish 170
I had forgotten about that! We used an amber fit glass dish that I bought at the Five and Ten for 49 cents for many years.
I am still upset that it broke.
I liked when we shared childhood memories of old TV shows, products,, brands, clothing/hairstyles, what was cool or groovy etc. It's so much fun when you have things in common with others and you can reminisce.
http://www.ibtimes.com/kate-gosselins-new-kate-plus-8-salary-revealed-tlc-star-making-over-40k-episode-report-1666742
Kate getting a raise? That ought to inspire Gladys to some full length bad poems. I'll get her started.
Hey there, neighbor!
It's forced child labor!
Anyone plan on watching Peter Pan:Live on NBC, Dec. 4? I've seen some preview clips on the NBC site and it looks like it's going to be good.
Of course, I'm old enough to remember Mary Martin's version, which I have on VHS tape. I recorded it when it aired back in 1989, which I believe was its last showing on TV.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES
@wiwwupeople Kate did sue Hoffman & Jon for libel & as with many court cases settled out of court. Only fools believe an admitted stalker?
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Is she really this stupid, or does she just pretend to be? I guess when you're missing your D, you just have to go with the flow.
What is it about the sheeple that they just don't have the intelligence to grasp even very simple law issues? This one doesn't know that the lawsuits filed against Robert and Jon had nothing to do with libel. Another one can't figure out custody rules and that child support/custody issues must go through the courts, and yet another one never was able to grasp the concept of dismissing with and without prejudice.
Sometimes you can't help but feel sorry for them. Sometimes, but not too often.
Anyone plan on watching Peter Pan:Live on NBC, Dec. 4? I've seen some preview clips on the NBC site and it looks like it's going to be good.
Of course, I'm old enough to remember Mary Martin's version, which I have on VHS tape. I recorded it when it aired back in 1989, which I believe was its last showing on TV.
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Yes! Allison Williams is one of the more likable characters in Girls, she does a good job. I didn't realize until recently she's Brian William's daughter. That must of been one interesting childhood. Peter Pan isn't my favorite play but it's still good, as an adult I recognize the bigger theme of change and growth that is nothing to be afraid of.
I remember the twitter snark for Sound of Music and how well the cast took it. It was really funny. I just wish it were airing live here, I have to see a rearing later in the evening.
We also have an old copy of the Mary Martin version on VHS, must have been that 1989 version. I watched it several times as a kid.
See you Thursday!
Sherry 177, "Sometimes you can't help but feel sorry for them. Sometimes, but not too often."
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Do they still believe that the class action lawsuit will net them millions?
And don't forget all the discussions we've had about books. Lots and lots of books.
I just saw an article that Twitter has made it much easier to report harrassing tweets. (I have no idea if the old way was really that hard.) I assume that those left on Kate's timeline, both sides, will immediately report each other as much as possible. That ought to really kill her timeline.
I got a good laugh when I checked out the Kate plus 8 FB page. They updated their cover photo for Christmas, but the thing is they updated an old photo taken several years ago and photo-shopped it to make it look Christmas-like. They were using the old photo back in 2012.
Here's the old photo:
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/558717_10150732447465678_895864064_n.jpg?oh=31b5f1577965a51da4c063a5bfb23eb8&oe=54D1FC8F
Here's the new one:
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10635731_10152539542035678_5740996498808968743_n.jpg?oh=fabf9cc2c6e25d6b2886824891f86b84&oe=54FD453C
Guess TLC can't be bothered to have a new photo taken. The funniest thing is how people commenting about the updated photo are saying they can't believe how much the kids have grown!!
I've probably made more in class actions just sitting here than the sheeple have all this time talking about their class action.
I just got a $36 settlement from the LA Times. I got something from Playstation some time ago. Another from iTunes.
I once even hit the motherload and got over 100 bucks from Kodak.
Every time I get these checks I think, that's a sandwich!! Sometimes even a combo meal.
And don't forget all the discussions we've had about books. Lots and lots of books.
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Some of the best books I've ever read have been recommendations here including We Need to Talk about Kevin and Gone Girl.
Yes redbirdsings, it WAS that exact dress, the silver striped one! A bit old for her to be wearing. I just wonder what her daughters are going to end up wanting to wear, with that kind of roll model.
I've probably made more in class actions just sitting here than the sheeple have all this time talking about their class action.
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Same here. I recently got a check from a car manufacturer, and then another one from them and another one from them. Of course, I never submitted the form to be included (or excluded), and the checks kept coming. I'm waiting for the next one to arrive! I'm sitting on them right now and plan to use them to buy some nice gifts for the annual local toys collection for kids here.
Speaking of disappearing sheep, whatever happened to the Irish Creeper, Wrestler Dave, Iwana, the Nicki (Nikki?) flip-flopper who went Ghetto and took up with BV, and the weirdest one of all -- Big Fan?
I'm not sure how blogger comes up with the verification words, but my last one was "sisters poenis."
I got a good laugh when I checked out the Kate plus 8 FB page. They updated their cover photo for Christmas, but the thing is they updated an old photo taken several years ago and photo-shopped it to make it look Christmas-like.
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Twit...that is so funny. Thanks for finding it. You can see how much the kids have grown! LOL!
prairiemary said...185
Here is the short tin foil dress. hahaha
http://www.gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-1800
And the discussions about our kids. Those were really great and us learning how to drive and the tv show suggestions.
So I'm watching SOA and just had a LOL moment. Guy sits down at the rest stop with Gemma and introduces himself as "Milo". Gemma says, "Milo, like the dog" and he replies, "Actually Milo was the cat...."
Oh, and Travoltizing names! ahahahaha!
http://www.gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/photo/kate-gosselin-1800
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That's the appearance where she was told to stay and greet the fans, she didn't want to do it and she whispered that it wasn't part of it.
I could never figure out how she can walk with her toes hanging off the front of her shoes. Wouldn't that be uncomfortable?
Gut sits down at the rest stop with Gemma and introduces himself as "Milo". Gemma says, "Milo, like the dog" and he replies, "Actually Milo was the cat...." 192
Too funny!
Someone has filed a suit against BC in civil court. She says she was sexually molested when she was 15, back in 1974.
Admin-does the statute of limitations apply in civil cases in CA?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bill-cosby-sued-20141202-story.html
Virginia Pen Mom said... 175
http://www.ibtimes.com/kate-gosselins-new-kate-plus-8-salary-revealed-tlc-star-making-over-40k-episode-report-1666742
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That's article is from August. I sometimes wonder if the newly-reported (as of Aug) 40k per episode is per hour show, whereas the old 22.5K was per half hour show. If so, it ain't a raise.
chantelle powell @ChanPowell 21m21 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 just nearly peed ...luv that you have made a new series best Christmas present ever �� thanxxxxx xxx
Not only is she ignoring the fans who ask her about an air date, but she will not explain that this is a few specials and not a season, and not a series. That's just wrong.
Someone has filed a suit against BC in civil court. She says she was sexually molested when she was 15, back in 1974.
Admin-does the statute of limitations apply in civil cases in CA?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bill-cosby-sued-20141202-story.html
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Goodness. Singer is going to be one busy boy.
Math Girl - I read that the $40K is for an hour long episode. So you're right, she didnt get a raise. She also doesn't get any more money if they break those hour episodes I to 1/2 hour episodes so the season can be stretched.
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