Celebrity Apprentice contestant Kenya Moore gave an interview this week where she had some interesting information to share about Kate and Steve.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kenya-moore-kate-gosselin-bodyguard-hotel-room-20141711
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Can you imagine tfw doing something like that?
So Kenya was joking around while being asked questions about KK and TFM?
The sheep are so stupid they would've said that Keyna wasn't serious about their qeen and played it off as a joke.
IDK why I was saying Kendra lol.
Jon "behaved" for a while too, and as soon as he had had enough, KABOOM... the rest is history. They also had a conniving plotting bitch as their puppet. Sorry, but those rednecks don't have the brains to play in THAT league.
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Which might be one of the reasons TLC just cut them off cold turkey.
Even a spinmeister/crisis manager, Laurie Goldberg, couldn't fix that mess given the "talent".
Bahahahahahaha! l love how Kenya called Kate "Gosseling". Yeah, Kate, you're such a celebrity that people who worked with you don't even know your name.
Chef, I had the same thought once I heard it. Why aren't the sheeple saying she was just being facetious? Or maybe they don't know that word.
Kate "Gossling". teehee. That should REALLY piss off Shmoopy.
And while the whole "are they or aren't they" debate rages on, the
real complaint from other contestants may simply be about TFW
having a manservant at her disposal. This is supposed to be a
challenge between individuals, not teams. And perhaps the
"mother of 8" card was played early and often, and the others
didn't appreciate that. We'll find out soon enough!
I had the same thought. I bet Steve chapped their hides because arguably, it gives her an unfair advantage. The rest of them didn't get to have their husband or wife stay with them and be their emotional support, somebody to bounce ideas off of, two heads are better than one. The others didn't get to unwind and have sex at night and a backrub. The others didn't get to have someone they loved and trusted at their beck and call. Without a shadow of a doubt, having emotional support there and a page boy to do whatever you need makes a HUGE difference in your emotional stability in a very stressful situation. It's unfair, and they are right to think so.
I was reading the last thread re: DWTS and kart crying in the limo. Dude, she was SOOOOO loaded. No one is THAT tired from distress. Totally bombed.
Just read about deadly crash this morning in Berks County, PA. Hope our posters that live in that area are ok!
Circling the drain. said... 10
I was reading the last thread re: DWTS and kart crying in the limo. Dude, she was SOOOOO loaded. No one is THAT tired from distress. Totally bombed.
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To my recollection, Kate was on the go in NYC, and that "scene" in the limo was shot after Kate appeared on a morning show.
So, unless she was putting booze in her Coffee Mate coffee, she was just tired from waking up at 0'Dark Hundred, and flying coast to coast for DWTS.
A good stiff drink might have been just what she needed, because she was acting like a fricking baby, especially when she made Steve handle her refusal to rehearse instead of doing it herself.
What evidence do you have that Jon took care of the kids while Kate did DWTS? I recall her saying that her sister was caring for them. If you are claiming that was a lie, please provide the proof to back up your claim.
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Numerous pap photos show him at the house while she was in LA. I believe there were some sledding photos, etc. I did a number of posts on it. I can't remember exactly what he said but I remember a number of suggestions from him, some of them may have been through just a source, frustrated about the situation. This may have been when he got the right of first refusal, because I remember rumblings that he was frustrated to find out they were going to be with nannies on her time.
This may have been when he got the right of first refusal, because I remember rumblings that he was frustrated to find out they were going to be with nannies on her time.
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I remember Kate implying/crying that Jon was trying to take her kids away, and crying about people thinking she's not a good mother.
I thought, "huh?".
Question for anyone who has watched CA before and is familiar with the show: Have you seen other contestants with assistants on CA? Has anyone talked about taking an entourage?
It seems like CA provides their own hair and makeup, so that part of an entourage wouldn't be needed.
Besides that, I think some contestants have assistants and I wonder if those assistants were allowed to be right by their side all day.
...and night.
Jon filed for custody because he said she was abusing the custody scheduling and she was also an absentee mom. I remember Admin had a calendar up in the sidebar showing how many days she was away at a time from the kids. It was a ridiculous amount, something like 19 or 20 days, she'd come home for one or two and leave them again.
Of course she used them as an excuse to be away. She was 'working' to support them. Uh huh. She spun the old "I'm a mother first" bullshit story she's worn out over the years.
I remember Kate implying/crying that Jon was trying to take her kids away, and crying about people thinking she's not a good mother.
I thought, "huh?".
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The cameras were on her. She couldn't very well say "wah wah, I'm sooo tired!" Make some shit up and make sure to have Jon as the culprit
How the hell do you know that the others didn't have anyone with them? (That's a rhetorical question; you don't
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There had been a statement from one of the contestants not too long ago that they did not have support and were alone. I think it was Penn Teller in that long interview he did exposing all the secrets CA. I distinctly remember it. I just can't remember who said it for sure. Maybe someone can find the Penn Teller interview to show you.
What evidence do you have that Jon took care of the kids while Kate did DWTS? I recall her saying that her sister was caring for them.
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Kate never said that.
If Jon wasn't caring for the kids then who was?
A nanny.
Steve no he was with Kate.
The kids were caring for themselves.
I remember Kate saying she wait by the phone for the kids to call you know since they could wait to get home.
Then we saw photos of Jon & kids having fun while Kate flew to mexico w/Steve.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18
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No need. That won't show that Kate was the only one to have someone with her. If you want to use an old interview as proof, then I guess Kate didn't have anyone there either because Penn said that doesn't happen, right?
chefsummer #Leh said... 19
What evidence do you have that Jon took care of the kids while Kate did DWTS? I recall her saying that her sister was caring for them.
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Kate never said that.
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She did, but I'm not going to spend hours looking for footage to prove it as I don't really care if you think I'm a liar.
chefsummer #Leh said... 19
If Jon wasn't caring for the kids then who was?
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Chef, Who's on first.
I think you're right. Jon was on second, looking after the kids and Kate and Steve were rounding third and heading in for a homerun.
There had been a statement from one of the contestants not too long ago that they did not have support and were alone. I think it was Penn Teller in that long interview he did exposing all the secrets CA. I distinctly remember it. I just can't remember who said it for sure. Maybe someone can find the Penn Teller interview to show you.
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Oh,. absolutely someone said it, and it might have been more than one person. The reason I remember it was because at the time I was thinking...if nobody else had "support" and family or bodyguards or significant others with them, then why was Kate allowed to do this. I recall wondering if there were any rules about having others with them because at the time I thought...geez...isn't this having "help" with projects?
Interesting that Cosby's attorney is Martin Singer.
http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20141119-nbc-scraps-cosby-television-project.ece
From one of the tabloids at the time. Notice that this is from an insider at the show itself.
An insider with the NBC reality show tells the magazine that Kate is the only contestant who has brought along any hired help during production.
'No one else has a bodyguard or assistant with them,' said the source.
'Everyone thinks it’s totally bizarre.'
And apparently Kate and Steve have been completely inseparable while she works on the Donald Trump series.
'He goes everywhere with her but the boardroom,' the insider told In Touch.
Penn Jillette Dishes On Celebrity Apprentice
I think you're right. Jon was on second, looking after the kids and Kate and Steve were rounding third and heading in for a homerun.
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But but how could she care for the kids she was waiting by the phone remember.
'No one else has a bodyguard or assistant with them,' said the source.
'Everyone thinks it’s totally bizarre.'
And apparently Kate and Steve have been completely inseparable while she works on the Donald Trump series.
'He goes everywhere with her but the boardroom,' the insider told In Touch.
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Thanks, Mel.
I think we'll see a lot of "wtf?" regarding Steve and his presence on the CA sets.
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Question for anyone who has watched CA before and is familiar with the show: Have you seen other contestants with assistants on CA? Has anyone talked about taking an entourage?
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I have watched the show a lot, and I have never seen anyone with an assistant other than Marlee Matlin, who had her sign language interpreter with her. That situation was perfectly legitimate.
I guess TFW must have convinced the Donald that she is "handicapped" (much like she described her infant children), so she absolutely had to have Mr. Potato Head (aka TFM/Purse Boy/Ratclaws) with her.
Lisa Lampanelli has also talked about how draining it was to do the show. She used to do a commentary on it on Howard 101 during her season. BTW Admin, his name is Penn Jillette and Teller is his partner.
I've watched all the seasons and as far as I know, no one has ever had their butt-boy along to cater to them.
Can't Kate not do anything on her own?
I'm betting that the producers of CA show probably allowed quite a bit of leeway with Steve because you know that's going to cause friction, which=ratings gold.
Love that Gladys is on the band wagon of no pictures no proof. I say it's possible that Kenya is the only one that picked up on that they were sharing a room. First, men are blind and don't notice a lot of things right in front of them. Maybe Kenya was on the same floor in the hotel and saw them going in/coming out. Maybe over a meal or cup of coffee Kate slipped and said something about "our" room, our view., etc., "Steve go back to our room and get....". Could be Kenya is very intuitive.
She did, but I'm not going to spend hours looking for footage to prove it as I don't really care if you think I'm a liar.
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Well, since others did the courtesy of looking for the comment I was referring to that YOU implied I was just making up out of nowhere, I think you should do the same.
"Kate is the only contestant who has brought along any hired help during production."
Happy now? Geez, what is your beef with me? Why can't you have a normal, fun conversation like everyone else here manages to?
I'm betting that the producers of CA show probably allowed quite a bit of leeway with Steve because you know that's going to cause friction, which=ratings gold.
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I agree. If they felt Steve would cause the other contestants to feel like the scales were uneven, that's all the more reason to keep him around. Conflict.
chefsummer #Leh said... 32
Can't Kate not do anything on her own?
Nope. She can barely manage herself, let alone eight kids. Thus the need for the nanny, housekeeper, cook, homework helper.
I agree. If they felt Steve would cause the other contestants to feel like the scales were uneven, that's all the more reason to keep him around. Conflict.'
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More conflict doing their fake assignments for their fake jobs before they get fake fired.
What I love about Penn's missive is that it reminds us all that CA is all theater, just orchestrated by a guy with cotton-candy-piss hair.
(or something like that!)
Remember when Terrell Owens posted a"Hang With" video when the celebs were getting ready for their press interviews for CA? Steve was in one of those videos. Why did he have to be there?
Someone on twitter posted a screen shot from his video clearly showing Steve sitting on the a couch doing his "bodyguarding".
https://twitter.com/NotJenD/status/534770802315767808
This is the post where we started discussing Kate being on CA and Steve's presence there. Admin also posted a screenshot of Steve sitting on the couch and a link to that video.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2014/03/kate-to-be-contestant-on-next-celebrity.html
Admin, I think it'd be hilarious if your grumpy-cat harasser is
actually Gladys! We've seen she can turn on the nasty when
the situation warrants it. Remember when she called that
interviewer a "slut?" She sure wasn't Miss "If-you-can't-
say-something-nice-don't-say-anything-at-all" that day,
was she? But wait -- she never, ever reads at this
"cesspool of hate," so it's impossible!
She did, but I'm not going to spend hours looking for footage to prove it as I don't really care if you think I'm a liar.
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As Kate's fans would say no poof it didn't happen.
A comment on one of the articles around the time of DWTS. The article was saying something about TFW shouldn't have been voted off because she was exhausted (God, I hate that word) from raising 8 kids by herself.
Bolding is mine. And is that ever true. She can't compete with other adults, and she knows it. That's why we see her come so alive when she's competing with her kids, or teenagers (the teenage interviewers). She knows she can beat them. When she's in competition with adults she just falls apart at the seams.
Fast money allowed Kate to give her narcissism free reign — the means to project a persona that is far from her true self. But she has a big problem when she tries to compete with adults who actually invest THEMSELVES in their work. When she loses, she has to cry to convince people she was serious. Through tears she told her audience that she gave it her all. Well, saying something doesn’t make it so.
Milo's back to tweeting platitudes to Kate.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 5h5 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Losers quit when they're tired. Winners quit when they've won. #OnToTheFinishLine #Motherhood :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 5h5 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 If U did not see it w/ur own eyes or hear it w/ur own ears, don't invent it w/ur small mind & share it w/ur big mouth! #Gossip
Um, apparently Kenya saw something with her "own eyes" or heard something with her "own ears", since she was there.
And what about Kate has Milo seen with her own eyes, or heard with her own ears? Seems like she "invents" a lot of things about Kate "in her own mind". That platitude could totally apply to her also, not only when she talks about Kate, but especially when she talks about people other than Kate--i.e., Kenya, Jon, Robert, etc. etc. etc.
A quote from a tabloid:
“Jon’s angry because doing ‘Dancing With the Stars’ will keep her away from the kids for days, and she still won’t let him have any extra custody,” a source close to Jon Gosselin told Us Weekly. “Nannies will watch them instead of Jon.”
Another quote:
As for her kids, Kate says she didn't get a chance to talk to them last night, but they were at home watching.
Sure doesn't sound like the kids were with Jon during DWTS. Sounds like they were at their own home, with nannies. Although later I think there was a rumor that the nanny was one of her sisters.
Another tabloid quote:
"Billy Bush of Access Hollywood garnered an exclusive interview with Kate during her daily dance rehearsal. Interesting revelation – Kate shared that her sister is babysitting the kids during Kate’s time away in LA for DWTS this week. ... I thought it was interesting that Kate shared that her sister is watching over the “eight little Brunos.”
Mcgibney backed down in a Texas lawsuit...
For anyone interested:
https://viaviewfiles.wordpress.com/
And before anyone asks, I don't follow this closely enough to.explain who anyone but mcgibney is.
And what about Kate has Milo seen with her own eyes, or heard with her own ears? 43
By George, I think I've got it!
Milo.is telepathic.
Totally OT-but it seems that networks are now distancing themselves from Bill Cosby due to the recent allegations about him. Netflix cancelled a special that was to air on Thanksgiving, NBC has decided not to go ahead with developing a new show for him, and now TV Land has stopped airing episodes of The Cosby Show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/nbc-scraps-cosby-television-project-27030145?singlePage=true
And did you see who his attorney is? None other than Marty Singer of Laverne and Shirley.
The weather right now is 30 degrees, winds at 7 mph.
Wind Chill, 21 degrees.
Frostbite in 30 minutes.
I hope Shoka is inside and not out freezing tonight!
Totally OT-but it seems that networks are now distancing themselves from Bill Cosby due to the recent allegations about him. 47
TLC will develop something for him.
NBC has dropped Bill Cosby's new show project, TVLand has taken the entire Cosby show section off of it's website, Netflix dropped new show project.
But his one man concerts are still on because several are sold out and nobody is asking for their money back.
Another platitude from Milo:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13m13 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Good, better, best; never let it rest till "your good" is #Better and "your better" is #BEST! :)
I guess she's worried since Kate hasn't tweeted in 3 days, and she's hoping that she'll a least get a retweet from Kate for one of her platitudes.
And more damage control.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
Now THIS is funny... @Kateplusmy8 was sharing a hotel room w/Mr.Neild...it was the #HotelConferenceRoom #BusinessMeeting LOL LOL LOL
She must have seen the screenshot of Steve from Terrell's video or she read about it here.
She's really showing her stupidity with that tweet, and is making Kate look even worse.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
Now THIS is funny... @Kateplusmy8 was sharing a hotel room w/Mr.Neild...it was the #HotelConferenceRoom #BusinessMeeting LOL LOL LOL
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Why does Milo always have to rub in what Kate I'm sure wishes would go away? Is it an attention thing?
So they were in the conference room together huh? Putting their heads together? She can't be suggesting Kate had outside help during this competition. That kind of sounds like cheating, and someone with morals and ethics would never do that.
Gladys would be wise to put a lid on it for now. She's so big on
believing what you see with your own eyes, but she may very
well see some things on CA that don't scan with all her defensive
tweets. If every contestant has an assistant with them in that
conference room, then, great. Nice and fair. But if it's just TFW
and TFM in a huddle while everyone else is alone, then she'll
have a lot of 'splainin' to do.
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There's pretty darn much you can see when your name is Gladys Kravitz and your passion in life is peering through windows! :)
Redbird...I just took the dogs for a walk and I didn't get frostbite. It really doesn't feel all that cold outside. I guess after last night, anything would feel balmy. If Shoka was outside last year during the polar vortex and last night during the brutal cold, he can get through tonight, although I wouldn't let any animal outside in the winter. Kate just doesn't care. Warm up coming this weekend and next week.
Funny that animal-lovin' Milo never asks where Shoka is during these cold days. I guess she's afraid of the answer.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 5h5 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 If U did not see it w/ur own eyes or hear it w/ur own ears, don't invent it w/ur small mind & share it w/ur big mouth! #Gossip
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I'd love to see Milo's mouth. It must be huge and stretched out after constantly putting her foot there. In fact, I bet it would hold both feet and both hands. She just never shuts up with the damage control and is making things worse rather than better. Too bad she's just too dumb to know it. Wouldn't you think that some of her tweetie buddies would just take her aside and tell her to zip it?
Modern moms looking for perfection in all the wrong places
Call Me Crazy said... 30
I guess TFW must have convinced the Donald that she is "handicapped"
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Well, that explains why the Flying Monkey was there. Because she's "handicapped", she had to be "parented" for the entire filming of CA. I guess that was the only break those kids got for the whole year. And you know what? They get it. They really, really get it.
PJ
Over (#54), Gladys assured us of Shoka's safety the other day,
when she tweeted that any pet of TFW's is guaranteed to live
"the good life." Of course, ignoring the fact Nala was given up.
Then again, getting away from that beast is the very definition
of "the good life."
It sounds like Krazy Kravitz is really worried about the share-a-room-with-a-flying-money. Otherwise, she wouldn't come up with these lame excuses. Will Kate ever tell her to back off? If I were Kate, I'd be royally pi$$ed at her.
Because she's "handicapped", she had to be "parented" for the entire filming of CA. I guess that was the only break those kids got for the whole year.
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So Steve was "parenting" Kate? Is that what it's called now, and did they do it only behind closed doors in that hotel room...er, conference room?
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 59
It sounds like Krazy Kravitz is really worried about the share-a-room-with-a-flying-money. Otherwise, she wouldn't come up with these lame excuses. Will Kate ever tell her to back off? If I were Kate, I'd be royally pi$$ed at her.
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I agree. I do think she's really worried, too. Especially because the info came from a real, know person and not some unnamed source.
Kate also in a quandary because she can't do her usual "it's a lie from a tabloid", because then she would publicly be calling Kenya a liar. Kate said in one of her interviews for CA "I think what definitely will come out here is that I'm not a pot stirrer, I'm definitely not a drama-starter", and calling Kenya a liar would definitely be pot-stirring and start more drama, which would also show that Kate lied in the interview.
I'm sure Kate's just hoping it will die down, but Milo keeps putting it out there.
BTW, I'm sure Milo will be happy that you called her Krazy Kravitz--now she can be KK just like Kate!
Because she's "handicapped", she had to be "parented" for the entire filming of CA. I guess that was the only break those kids got for the whole year.
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Maybe we could all chip in to send Kate to summer camp this year. Steve needs a break.
I had to laugh at Penn's article, which was written by him, where he kept saying he had an agreement with the producers that Penn would pretend he actually cares what Trump thinks about him. lol.
It's just so true. He thinks what he thinks and he really doesn't care with some doofus like Trump thinks. Kate says she doesn't care, Penn actually lives it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
Now THIS is funny... @Kateplusmy8 was sharing a hotel room w/Mr.Neild...it was the #HotelConferenceRoom #BusinessMeeting LOL LOL LOL
Um Gladys? In case you didn't know, what they were doin' in there is called #MonkeyBusiness
LOL LOL LOL.
Geez.
Kate also in a quandary because she can't do her usual "it's a lie from a tabloid", because then she would publicly be calling Kenya a liar
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YEP! Total rock and a hard place. She knows FULL WELL her hands are tied here. She would be calling Kenya a liar to deny it, and that is not only going to unleash Kenya, but all her minions, fans, entourage, etc. And perhaps even the other contestants.
I'm betting dollars to donuts she's downright scared of Kenya. As someone else stated as have others, she's good when she's with teens and kids and can have the upper hand. But she's an absolute coward when she has to actually play with the big girls. The only thing to do when you are up a creek without a tweet is to be silent, which is exactly what she's doing.
Maybe we could all chip in to send Kate to summer camp this year. Steve needs a break.
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TFM got with TFW on his own and he didn't give the kids his pizza so I won't give him any relief -lol
But I will point him to the nearest broom closet if he wants to hide.
"I think what definitely will come out here is that I'm not a pot stirrer,
I'm definitely not a drama-starter." Good grief, what a sad little
statement from TFW, and a testament to what little she has to offer.
Not, "I'm here to work hard, and learn some things, and what an
amazing opportunity, and I'm very fortunate..." -- nope, she's just
there to prove she's not a drama-starting pot-stirrer. Which, she
surely must understand, is the only reason she got the job.
Andy Cohen has a new book that came out Nov. 11 called "The Andy Cohen Diaries: A Deep Look at a Shallow Year". I read a review that was posted on the Time magazine website. He apparently wrote something about Kate, because she is mentioned in the review.
"Cohen’s book is packaged as a passport into the world of celebrity, and he’s gratifying in his say-everything treatment of stars; devoted readers of celebrity gossip will appreciate his lack of patience for fitness guru Jillian Michaels and reality star Kate Gosselin, as well as his attempts to further stoke a feud between Lady Gaga and Katy Perry."
http://time.com/3588186/andy-cohen-the-andy-cohen-diaries-bravo/
Andy went to the CA Pie Face sale. I wondered if what he wrote about Kate has to do with that. I'll have to take a look at the book next time I'm in a bookstore.
Um Gladys? In case you didn't know, what they were doin' in there is called #MonkeyBusiness
LOL LOL LOL.
Geez.
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LOL! Didn't Gary Hart get into big, big trouble for that?
TFW and the Slivered Fox were huddled together for safety reasons. They were planning what they would do when one contestant pulled the fire alarm and the rest of them were standing outside "the Smith's" room. Snark.
TFW is completely paranoid about getting out of smoky rooms so it seemed a logical "gotcha!".
Note to sheeple: No, I do not have a picture or any witnesses.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 69
LOL! Didn't Gary Hart get into big, big trouble for that?
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Yes, what happened in the yacht didn't stay in the yacht. ha!
I love it! Those of us who saw her in the clubhouse or heard Andy when he named her as Jackhole of the Day knew that he had no use for her at all.
"devoted readers of celebrity gossip will appreciate his lack of patience for fitness guru Jillian Michaels and reality star Kate Gosselin"
Yes, what happened in the yacht didn't stay in the yacht. ha!
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He challenged the media to put him under surveillance because he claimed that his personal life was very boring. They took him up on it, and lo and behold, his escapades on that yacht were anything but ho hum. Oops.
Gladys, being fond of challenges, needs to be careful of what she tweets. She keeps this up, and others are going to come out and confirm what Kenya said, and she wasn't referring to a conference room!
Out of curiosity what's he got against Jillian Michaels? I don't recall hearing any smack talk about her before. Not that I don't defer fully to our beloved Andy's judgment!
And when we get behind CA doors
And she lets her hair clips hang down
And she makes me glad that I'm her monkey
Oh, no one knows what goes on
behind CA doors
behind...CA doors
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Over in TFW's county,
I was thinking about the snow in Buffalo NY and then I thought of Shoka outside on that bed at the front step. I quickly looked up the actual temp chart on the National Weather Service. On the chart, it was colored that frostbite would start in 30 minutes.
I wish that she was normal. Nala and Shoka would be in the house right now. Warm by the fire and getting belly rubs and the dogs kissing them in thanking them. Just like the picture of the tup boy with the pit bull.
Went to Google Books and Andy Cohen said that Savannah Gutherie? said kate Gosselin was awful. And that Saint Tony survived kate Gosselin.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 74
Out of curiosity what's he got against Jillian Michaels? I don't recall hearing any smack talk about her before. Not that I don't defer fully to our beloved Andy's judgment!
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Apparently the falling out happened when Jillian appeared on WWHL. There are several articles about it. This is from ROL, but the other articles say the same thing.
"Andy Cohen has had his fair share of wild guests but he admitted that there is one that he’ll name as the worst ever on his show and it’s celebrity trainer Jillian Michaels.
In a fan Q&A, the Watch What Happens Live host said that Jillian was the one guest was who was “such a pain in the ass that they’ll never be asked back.”
"She was so mean to my staff,” he said. “She freaked out after the show. She was mean to my staff and she was yelling at them like she was on The Biggest Loser.”
Andy said Jillian is not welcome back on his hit show AND he doesn’t want to run into her anywhere else either.
“I never want to see her again.”
http://radaronline.com/videos/andy-cohen-jillian-michaels-never-want-to-see-her-again-watch-what-happens-live-video/
Andy Cohen is supposed to be on The Talk tomorrow.
fidosmommy said... 70
TFW and the Slivered Fox were huddled together for safety reasons. They were planning what they would do when one contestant pulled the fire alarm and the rest of them were standing outside "the Smith's" room. Snark.
TFW is completely paranoid about getting out of smoky rooms so it seemed a logical "gotcha!".
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Haha! Maybe Kate would wrap Steve in a blanket and head out the window with him!
I have Andy's new book and he writes about showing up for the CA taping at the pie shop. He said Leeza Gibbons gave him a pie and Vivica A Fox rang him up. He said Kate Gosselin was there but he didn't recognize her which was a good thing since he talked a lot of shit about her on Twitter about what an awful person she is.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
Now THIS is funny... @Kateplusmy8 was sharing a hotel room w/Mr.Neild...it was the #HotelConferenceRoom #BusinessMeeting LOL LOL LOL
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OH STFU! God, she seems like some snide little condescending biotch. "Dear dear dear, let ME enlighten YOU, you silly little thing."
She IS the same as tfw, but does the OPPOSITE, enabler enabler enbaler. We've said it here before, tfw could be caught murdering someone, still have the weapon in her hand and victim at her feet with a camera crew of 20 present and she'd STILL come up with some "plausible" reason how she didn't do it!
Sandusky's wife
Maybe we could all chip in to send Kate to summer camp this year. Steve needs a break.
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The kids too, she often makes them her parents, depends on the day
Oh,. absolutely someone said it, and it might have been more than one person. The reason I remember it was because at the time I was thinking...if nobody else had "support" and family or bodyguards or significant others with them, then why was Kate allowed to do this. I recall wondering if there were any rules about having others with them because at the time I thought...geez...isn't this having "help" with projects?
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Exactly. So he never went with her to the boardroom, but everywhere else?
He absolutely strategized with her, advised her, consoled her, babied her, boosted her moral etc....cripes, don't forget he even told her what size of boobies to get!
@Xxxxxxxx: Dear @TLC, so are you going to also cover the 6 yrs relationship btwn #Kateplusmy8 & her married bodyguard, Steve? pic.twitter.com/iEGj14CObk
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I'd forgotten about this picture. Here she is braying like a donkey at the Brad Garrett show in Las Vegas with TFM at her side. Looks like more than a business relationship to me.
I think TFW traveled well beyond her scope of skills. As someone noted, she has no social skills when it comes to dealing with savvy adults, beyond her own show. Dancing with the Stars was a disaster; after she said she was going to win, she did nothing but bitch and complain and clearly did not get along well with most of the cast members, let alone Toni. Then did Wife Swap, and Hank clearly could not stand her. But going on Celebrity Apprentice- she over stretched her abilities, as she does not get along with any adults, and my guess is they tore her apart, in spite of the fact that she tried not to "stir the pot/cause drama," as she knew she was way out of her league. She just doesn't know when to stop and call it a day. She is simply delusional as she can't get along with anyone. Even her hired help (Jamie, Ashley, Kevin, Jodie, mother/father, siblings, cleaning/laundry people, etc..)- the list goes on.
With the HBB and Cake Boss fiasco, I have noticed that they are showing constant reruns of the Duggars, Little Couple, Little People, etc... but none of TFW. TLC is desperately scrambling to keep her off the air, so maybe they realize what a "gimic" she WAS and what a liability she truly is. Maybe.
Her pilot for Twist of Kate failed miserably, (can't do anything successful without kids) and she knows it or should know it, as her books, interview shows, and anything she tries solo fails miserably. I do believe what Kenya said, as no other contestants had help, and I am sure that they resented that, rightfully so. Steve, and Jamie, to a degree, are the only ones still in her life, and Steve and Jamie (when on the show) are getting paid. Probably very well. What she did to Beth was a sign of who she truly is; if she didn't get it then, she never will.
She will continue to film K +8, when asked to but her star is not very bright and with the fraud of the TLC shows coming out, I am hopeful we will see less and less of her, her true character will be shown on CA and TLC/people will have less interest in her, as she knows she is NOTHING without the kids. And several of the kids are making filming very uncomfortable as the kids are acting out, as they get older and it is clear they are tired of her ME, ME. ME antics. JMO
redbirdsings said... 77
Went to Google Books and Andy Cohen said that Savannah Gutherie? said kate Gosselin was awful. And that Saint Tony survived kate Gosselin.
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Andy deals with narcissists every day on his show, so when he says she was awful, it means something. How often does it has to be noted by others who have dealt with her, how awful SHE is before sheeples, who never met her get it? Celebrity Worship is dangerous, but since she has very few unpaid twitter fans, guessing she will fade into obscurity soon. One can hope.
It's awful. First, Brian Singer, then Stephen Collins, Honey Boo Boo scandal and now Bill Cosby.
What got me was when Janice Dickenson was talking about it she said, the last thing I saw was he was in that plaid robe, took it off.
If he was truly innocent, as much money as he has, he should of spent every penny he had to defend himself and not settle some of the cases out of court. Did you hear what Wendy Williams said about it yesterday? She was working at a radio station in the 90's and had a tabloid saying these things about BC and she was part of the morning breakfast club where they talk about current events. She started talking about what was written. After a few minutes, during the show, she was summoned to the general managers office and he had already talked to BC and BC wanted her fired immediately.
The GM put the phone on speaker phone and BC blasted WW and she said, he called her everything but a Holy child of God, something like that.
To me, they are believable. I believe them. Hang in girls, there are strength in numbers!
Final note- TFW can not get along with ANYONE, unless she feels she has total control over them. She does not get along with anyone, her own family, Jon, Beth, etc..unless she has total control over them.
I don't feel sorry for her at all.
If she is narcisstic, Bi-Polar, whatever, she truly needs to deal with it, as even the kids are starting to rebel over her impossible standards and selfishness. If TLC has a heart, they need to shut this down before they have another fiasco on their hands. None of the kids seem to be very happy with filming, and it shows in what is aired.
Buying a tractor or whatever it is, was so SHE could haul the chicken feed from her local farmer to her house, without any inconvenience to herself. NOT FOR THE TUPS' birthday, so she is becoming more and more selfish, which is sad and disgusting, as the kids made her famous, NOT HER.
sayitisntso said... 85
You're spot on with everything you said.
It's kind of sad that Kate fails at everything she tries and she can't or won't get along with people her own age range including her own family/friends.
It's sad that the only ppl she can get along with are the ppl she's is paying or are getting paid and the only man she can get is either married or she stole-(Jon).
I almost feel bad for her but then I remember she's an abusive child exploiter who ego driven.
How sad and frustrating the Bill Cosby news is. I always admired his work ethic and championing African Americans to make something of their lives through education and staying away from gangs and drugs and to preserve the nuclear family .Is nothing sacred!! So many scandals coming to light.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 5h5 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 If U did not see it w/ur own eyes or hear it w/ur own ears, don't invent it w/ur small mind & share it w/ur big mouth! #Gossip
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I'd love to see Milo's mouth. It must be huge and stretched out after constantly putting her foot there. In fact, I bet it would hold both feet and both hands. She just never shuts up with the damage control and is making things worse rather than better. Too bad she's just too dumb to know it. Wouldn't you think that some of her tweetie buddies would just take her aside and tell her to zip it?
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Right! So Kenya "saw it with her own eyes." That makes her more credible than Krazy Kravitz (love it!). Gladys hasn't figured out that all her discrepancies work against her lover, not with her.
Ah, Celebrity Apprentice. This is going to be fun!
AuntieAnn, #FlyingMonkeyBusiness. Ewwww! hahaha
Rhymes with Witch said... 46
And what about Kate has Milo seen with her own eyes, or heard with her own ears? 43
By George, I think I've got it!
Milo.is telepathic.
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And tele-pathetic as well!
To me, they are believable. I believe them. Hang in girls, there are strength in numbers!
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Oh I absolutely believe the women. Where there's smoke, there's fire. It's a story as old as time.
Bill Cosby's projects are dropping like flies, just like Paula Deen. Wonder if Jello will drop him?
Paula Deen was the spokesperson for Smithfield Hams.
Now, CHOPPED judge and Chef Amanda Freitag is the new spokesperson for Smithfield Hams. She is great!
. Dancing with the Stars was a disaster; after she said she was going to win, she did nothing but bitch and complain and clearly did not get along well with most of the cast members, let alone Toni.
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And then when she got called on her actions, when Toni walked off, the water works started. "everybody walks out on me" HE stood up to her bullying bullshit and then she played the victim. Classic abuser
FlimsyFlamsy said... 40
Admin, I think it'd be hilarious if your grumpy-cat harasser is
actually Gladys! We've seen she can turn on the nasty when
the situation warrants it. Remember when she called that
interviewer a "slut?" She sure wasn't Miss "If-you-can't-
say-something-nice-don't-say-anything-at-all" that day,
was she? But wait -- she never, ever reads at this
"cesspool of hate," so it's impossible!
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FlimsyFlamsy, you often make such great points!
Whenever Kate is backed in a corner, someone makes a point of coming here to start arguments on her behalf. Whoever it is has a real nasty tone.
Not many people have a flying monkey (lol) in this fight. It almost has to be either Gladys, Purse Boy, the defective detective, or Kate herself. I don't believe any other fans care enough, even Paige.
http://time.com/3592547/bill-cosby-rape-allegations-timeline/
fyi if interested
Wonder when the Twitter Bots will be cued to start the frenzy of
anticipation for the new episodes. Let's think about what the key
words will be: "finally," "kids are growing up," "missed them,"
"can't wait," and of course, "excited." Wheeeee!
And then when she got called on her actions, when Toni walked off, the water works started. "everybody walks out on me" HE stood up to her bullying bullshit and then she played the victim. Classic abuser
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It's total manipulation, too.
Kate's transgression ended up with Tony coming crawling back to her!
Kate treated Tony with utter disrespect and when he walked out on her, she cried like a manipulative female who knows that generally, guys crumble when they see tears.
I loved when Jon finally got to a point where Kate's manipulative tears left him unmoved.
Sorry, honey. Jon's got your number.
Kate treated Tony with utter disrespect and when he walked out on her, she cried like a manipulative female who knows that generally, guys crumble when they see tears.
There's that. And I do think that was the game she was trying to play.
Although in this case I think it was more that Tony was coerced by his employer to go back. I get the feeling that if he hadn't been forced to
go back and make nice, that he wouldn't have.
I wonder how/if the the Donald responded to her tears. I can't imagine him falling for that old game. But maybe...
The other women would have hated her for playing that game, eh? Kind cheesy to play that card, IMO.
Or maybe TFW gave the Donald that 'come hither' look that she tried out on Hank.
Or maybe TFW gave the Donald that 'come hither' look that she tried out on Hank.
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That one made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Who the heck openly flirts with another woman's husband?
Oh...wait...
I loved when Jon finally got to a point where Kate's manipulative tears left him unmoved.
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Just google 'Kate Gosselin turns on the waterworks' and see the results lol. No wonder she's dehydrated.
redbirdsings said... 96
Bill Cosby's projects are dropping like flies, just like Paula Deen. Wonder if Jello will drop him?
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The Smithsonian just opened an exhibition featuring the Cosby's art collection, and it's supposed to run until 2016.
I wonder if it'll be pulled early.
BC's interview with a talented and well-respected AP reporter is cringe worthy. Telling the reporter that he's being less than professional and to "scuttle' that part of the interview shows Cosby's misuse of his perceived power.
What gall.
"How dare you question me!".
Red bird sings, just an update on Bryan Singer. He did aggressively defend himself, Marty Singer was his attorney also, and had proof Bryan Singer was physically elsewhere working on a film at the time the accuser said the abuse happened. The accuser eventually dropped his lawsuit filled in Hawaii because he no longer had an attorney representing him. Interesting there was no public press conference to announce that.
I see the queen has finally addressed her subjects, Nothing like playing the poor Mom, woe is me, card to deflect from the stories about her.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
Good AM all! Between homework, making meals, doctor appts, school functions, work stuff etc..I've been absent! #MomProbs #Sorry #MissU
#MomProbs? Didn't know that taking care of your children is supposed to be considered a problem. And isn't that stuff that she would or should be doing every day?
She had to come up with an excuse for her twitter silence, and what better way is there than using her children as an excuse.
Not many people have a flying monkey (lol) in this fight. It almost has to be either Gladys, Purse Boy, the defective detective, or Kate herself. I don't believe any other fans care enough, even Paige.
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Emily (although her major crushes seem to be Cher and Lauper); Austin (he's still into Kirstie and Rimes, but he wants Kate to go to Missouri to run a race with him); Carlene, the CEE in training: Collie Ph-minus-the-D (not sure who exactly has captured her heart); and Uggs, who is in love with any guy or gal celeb who will throw a bone (among other things) her way.
"Now, CHOPPED judge and Chef Amanda Freitag is the new spokesperson for Smithfield Hams. She is great!"
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If only she and the other judges could learn some table manners and not eat with their elbows propping them up!
If only she and the other judges could learn some table manners and not eat with their elbows propping them up!
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What is it with these chef/judges and their horrendously horrendous table manners?
Have you seen Tom Collichio hold a fork?
RIP Mike Nichols
Kate is a twit said... 107
I see the queen has finally addressed her subjects, Nothing like playing the poor Mom, woe is me, card to deflect from the stories about her.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
Good AM all! Between homework, making meals, doctor appts, school functions, work stuff etc..I've been absent! #MomProbs #Sorry #MissU
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Yup, there's Kate with her French tips firmly shoved in her ears.
"lalalalalalallalala I can't hear you lalalalalalalalala"
Now, if Kenya accused Kate of having a face lift, she'd have been on a "set the record straight" tour so fast that the flying monkey's head would spin.
TFW has 8 hours alone every school day, and admittedly has help on after school hours every day, cleaning lady, plus Jon taking kids. No pity for her at all.
Her excuses are selfish and pathetic, as we know all of the kids are required to do a lot of the work. Remember the chore chart, plus the "for pay" tasks she noted.
Buying a tractor or whatever it is, was so SHE could haul the chicken feed from her local farmer to her house, without any inconvenience to herself. NOT FOR THE TUPS' birthday, so she is becoming more and more selfish, which is sad and disgusting, as the kids made her famous, NOT HER.
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I'm not so sure about that. That involves HER doing the hauling, and means work for her. Why would she do that when there would be ag companies in the area who would deliver the feed and put it where it needs to be? That's much easier than driving around a tractor, especially in cold weather and snow.
What got me was when Janice Dickenson was talking about it she said, the last thing I saw was he was in that plaid robe, took it off.
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I haven't followed this, other than to read part of Dickinson's statement:
"The next morning I woke up, and I wasn't wearing my pajamas, and I remember before I passed out that I had been sexually assaulted by this man," she tells ET. "... Before I woke up in the morning, the last thing I remember was Bill Cosby in a patchwork robe, dropping his robe and getting on top of me. And I remember a lot of pain. The next morning I remember waking up with my pajamas off and there was semen in between my legs."
Why was she wearing her pajamas, alone in a room with him? There's something I'm missing her, or interpreting incorrectly.
I thought there was a tractor that presumably came with the property when they bought the Heffner Rd. house. Wasn't it parked in the garage and Jon was using it to clear brush for the Crooked Houses? I wonder what happened to that. Kate probably sold it.
Those small tractors are handier than what Kate bought herself I mean the sextuplets for their birthday.
I heard an interview on the radio with I think the wife of the incredible hulk. What he did wasn't that bad but it was still inappropriate. He kissed her while his wife slept upstairs. And her story was overwhelmingly credible. I wasn't sure what to think until I heard her.
sayitisntso said... 112
TFW has 8 hours alone every school day, and admittedly has help on after school hours every day, cleaning lady, plus Jon taking kids. No pity for her at all.
Her excuses are selfish and pathetic, as we know all of the kids are required to do a lot of the work. Remember the chore chart, plus the "for pay" tasks she noted.
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Kate laid on bedrest for fuckity-hundreds of weeks 10 years ago. Her work is finished.
Why was she wearing her pajamas, alone in a room with him? There's something I'm missing her, or interpreting incorrectly.
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I don't care if she was wearing pasties and a G-string. That does not give a man the right to do anything to her, conscious or unconscious. She could be buck-naked. There can be no consent.
Instead of telling women what not to do, we should be telling men to stop raping.
PJ
In reply to #114 - Blowing In The Wind - Your comment could have been written by me because I have the same question.
I heard the interview on TV and, from what I understand, she went to dinner with BC to discuss her career and when she woke up she was not in her pyjamas.
Lots of questions here among them, did she wear pyjamas to dinner?
bm
KK back on twitter I bet Milo to excited and will be tweet butt kissing tweets to her queen.
#harworkingmom8 #don'tknowhowudoit #supermom
Why was she wearing her pajamas, alone in a room with him? There's something I'm missing her, or interpreting incorrectly.
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I'm taking it as she's basically saying the same thing twice. She did say she had just come out of rehab and he gave her pills to help her cramps. Last thing any addict should do is take any type of pill even aspririn. He's a predator. IMO
I have to say I was shocked to hear/see what Bill Cosby has been up to/accused of.
I never thought he would be that guy but then again it's the ones you least expect..
If this is true I just hope he never did this to the underage girls Keshia knight pulliam Raven Lisa Bonet ect of the show.
I hate when Kate mentions 'work' stuff. She is only fooling a few sheeple.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
Good AM all! Between homework, making meals, doctor appts, school functions, work stuff etc..I've been absent! #MomProbs #Sorry #MissU
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Okay, Kate. I'll bite. Tell us what "school functions" you have attended in the last week. This should be good.
Work stuff? Scouring the internet for deals on your coupon page? Updating your blog? Going for chicken feed?
Thanks for the shout-out, Virginia Pen Mom (#98)! I always
enjoy reading your comments.
When TFW puts "school functions" as part of her busy agenda...
don't all her kids go to the same school? There are moms with
much fewer kids who have it harder, because their kids are
scattered in 2 or more schools. Oh, and just because TFW says
she's busy doing all these things, doesn't really mean she's doing them. No pictures, no proof - right, fans?
Border Collie, if you're reading here, I was thinking of you today
and hope things are starting to settle down for you.
Okay, Kate. I'll bite. Tell us what "school functions" you have attended in the last week. This should be good.
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Ha, love it
What is it with these chef/judges and their horrendously horrendous table manners?
Have you seen Tom Collichio hold a fork?
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I haven't seen that. Would I want to? I like Chopped, but I find myself yelling at the judges..."Elbows OFF The table." You'd think they would know better. I can see it coming from one or two of them, but no matter who is doing the judging, the manners are horrible. I remember when Aaron and Chris both took a bowl of something (rice or soup) up to the mouths. It drives me crazy!
If this is true I just hope he never did this to the underage girls Keshia knight pulliam Raven Lisa Bonet ect of the show.
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I think he's too smart for that.
If this is true I just hope he never did this to the underage girls Keshia knight pulliam Raven Lisa Bonet ect of the show.
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Raven has come out to support Cosby and say he never was inappropriate with her.
But, Cosby has been known as a womanizer for years and years, but this is definitely far worse, as it appears he might actually be a serial sexual predator.
Wendy Williams said that way back in 1990, Cosby tried to get her fired from her DJ job because she dared talk about sexual allegations against him.
1990.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
Good AM all! Between homework, making meals, doctor appts, school functions, work stuff etc..I've been absent! #MomProbs #Sorry #MissU
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Funny. That never stopped her from hanging out on twitter before.
Nice try though Shmoops. You and that flying monkey of yours have been publicly outed. By not addressing it, even denying it, you're admitting it's true. The jig is up. Ouch, huh?
OT--This is for the Billy Joel fans here.
Last night he received the Gershwin Prize for Songwriting. The ceremony and tribute concert will air on PBS stations nationally at 9 p.m. Jan. 2.
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/billy-joel-honored-with-gershwin-prize-for-songwriting-in-washington-by-library-of-congress-1.9635887
Formerly Duped said... 123
I hate when Kate mentions 'work' stuff. She is only fooling a few sheeple.
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She probably considers sending out that one tweet as "work".
Vanessa said... 128
If this is true I just hope he never did this to the underage girls Keshia knight pulliam Raven Lisa Bonet ect of the show.
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I think he's too smart for that.
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Cosby liked young women- his victims are very similar: young, impressionable, eager to get into showbiz, trusting.
I'm taking it as she's basically saying the same thing twice. She did say she had just come out of rehab and he gave her pills to help her cramps.
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He gave her pills for cramps. Not a good idea, but okay. However, why were they together in a hotel room or his house, and why was she in pajamas and he in a robe? I'm with others who question this. I'm not sure we're getting the entire scenario. Has anyone asked her this question?
Hummmm, not a word about TFW being smart, witty, a team player, sincere, funny, creative, motivated, friendly, warm, etc, etc - just that she and Skeeve shared a room and he was around a lot...
There was more content in what Kenya didn't say, than what she did. Plus, of course, she doesn't know TFW's last name. LOL
I don't care if she was wearing pasties and a G-string. That does not give a man the right to do anything to her, conscious or unconscious. She could be buck-naked. There can be no consent.
Nobody implied that a victim isn't a victim and without consent it's rape. Most definitely. But there's something missing from this story,. and it all may make sense. However, why are you alone with him in a room in your pajamas with this man, and why is he in a robe? Is this how business meetings end?
However, why are you alone with him in a room in your pajamas with this man, and why is he in a robe? Is this how business meetings end?
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It's inappropriate, but Cosby target young women who were star struck by him. Plus Dickinson was young and pretty wild, and in Hollywood, "anything goes" back in the day.
Cosby was powerful and respected. To connect with him could mean a big break in showbiz.
I read another woman's story today. She alleges she was raped at age 19, back in 1976.
Cosby flattered her with attention and got her a front row seat to his Las Vegas show. She was given the red carpet treatment.
After the show, in the green room, when everyone else left, he told her to take a couple pills and she did.
Stupid? Yes. But Cosby seems to know the dynamic between a young, naiive woman and a rich, powerful, famous man.
All of these women share a similar story.
I don't want to cause any unrest, but I'd like to ask everyone to please remember to include the URL or link to the article or page you're copying and pasting from (especially since we're discussing a lot of older articles about Kate recently). Many of you include the URLs and it's greatly appreciated and I heartily thank you, but many simply paste the quote and/or refer to "a tabloid article", etc.
PA Dutch Mom said... 136
I heard some of the other woman's stories and they've also said he was in a rob and that he gave them something and they woke up not remember what happened.
Either Janice is lying and she copycatting from the OW stories or Cosby is a serial predator with a sick MO.
PA Dutch Mom said... 124
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
Good AM all! Between homework, making meals, doctor appts, school functions, work stuff etc..I've been absent! #MomProbs #Sorry #MissU
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Okay, Kate. I'll bite. Tell us what "school functions" you have attended in the last week. This should be good.
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What? You haven't seen her? LOL she'll never learn
I heard some of the other woman's stories and they've also said he was in a rob and that he gave them something and they woke up not remember what happened.
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Chef, I understand that. My question is why was she (and others?) in a room with him, wearing her pajamas? That's what is confusing and so far I haven't seen any explanation of how she ended up there in her pajamas.
I don't think Janice Dickenson is copycatting. She told the story about BC on the Howard Stern show quite a while ago.
Tucker's Mom said... 137
Nobody implied that a victim isn't a victim and without consent it's rape. Most definitely. But there's something missing from this story,. and it all may make sense. However, why are you alone with him in a room in your pajamas with this man, and why is he in a robe? Is this how business meetings end?
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I'm not sure what could be missing that would make this story make sense? I can't think of a single thing that would change anything. I'm not being facetious and I'm not trying to cause an argument, but to me, none of that matters.
By asking why she was in her pajamas you are, perhaps inadvertently, blaming the victim. If your car is stolen, should the police ask you why you were driving such a nice car? If your home was broken into and they stole your t.v., should the cops ask why you owned such a big screen?
The only question is: Why did he put his penis in her vagina without her consent?
PJ
Cosby was powerful and respected. To connect with him could mean a big break in showbiz.
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A predator who groomed his victims. He knew exactly who to target.
PA Dutch Mom said... 141
I know it's weird but maybe they saw Cosby as a father-figure-(as many young girls do) and they trusted him enough to wear anything.
Let me phrase this another way.
BC and JD are out at a business meeting. They talk, eat, have drinks. Janice invites him back to her place and slips into something more comfortable. (I don't care what) They chat, they have more drinks. Things heat up. She is given a pill and before she passes out, she sees BC drop his robe and climb on top of her. She wakes up, wearing her pajamas and has semen between her legs.
Isn't that rape? What went on before is irrelevant. There was no consent.
PJ
Ooh, this is interesting. Dean tells Tori no more kids on reality tv.
http://radaronline.com/2014/11/tori-spelling-dean-mcdermott-kids-done-true-tori/
PJ
It's him drugging the women that really nails it for me. They could be ready to jump his bones, they could be ready to give him oral sex, she could be promiscuous, a flirt,...whatever. When you take away the women's ability to consent, that is freaking scary. It's just like the young women and this date rape drug.
The incredible hulk's wife seemed to be implying that Cosby might have been using the help of a second man to lure women in. That's really terrible. So she was seeing this guy and on a first or second date he suggested they go hang out at his friend BC. After BC kissed her she left. She never heard from her date again. Freaky right?
NJGal51 said... 142
I don't think Janice Dickenson is copycatting. She told the story about BC on the Howard Stern show quite a while ago.
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2-3 years ago I believe she wrote about the incident in one of her books. But BC lawyers asked her-(or told) her to remove it.
I admit I was skeptical when Janice Dickinson claimed to be a victim. I think she's a fame whore and a wreck in general.
But, I'm inclined to believe her.
Despite being an addict and perhaps inappropriate, it doesn't mean she wasn't raped.
chefsummer #Leh said... 145
PA Dutch Mom said... 141
I know it's weird but maybe they saw Cosby as a father-figure-(as many young girls do) and they trusted him enough to wear anything.
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This is a story that was published in People in 2006, regarding the civil case. It does seem that several of the alleged victims thought of him as a father figure and mentor, and also someone who could help further their careers.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20059561,00.html
One of the victim's father abandoned her when she was 14. She was 18 when she met Cosby. The article quotes her as saying " "He questioned me quite extensively about my personal history, my relationship with my father. My father abandoned me when I was 14." She says now, "In hindsight I look back and I realize what he was doing.
Another victim is quoted as saying ""I was very vulnerable," says the Colorado native, whose father had died and who had just survived a serious car crash. Cosby "came on as a mentor, almost a father figure," she says. "He was there to help me with everything."
If all the allegations are true, it seems like he particularly targeted young women who were vulnerable, and had emotional problems.
Ooh, this is interesting. Dean tells Tori no more kids on reality tv.
http://radaronline.com/2014/11/tori-spelling-dean-mcdermott-kids-done-true-tori/
PJ
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We'll see if he's serious, or if this is just a stunt.
Tori appeared without Dean and two days later, he without her, on the Today show this week.
Bizarre to say the least, as they were in NYC together.
Tori claimed Dean was wonderful while she was in the hospital and filming for her is theraputic and cathartic.
Dean said the marriage and kids are great, but I want off.
How will Tori film her life without Dean?
It just doesn't make any sense at all.
Tucker's Mom said... 151
I admit I was skeptical when Janice Dickinson claimed to be a victim
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I hate to say it but I was to.
Well, Tucker's Mom, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Needless to say, Tori's family is pretty powerful and he's a nobody. Of course, she'll have the network behind her. This is like deja vu, all over again. Strange thing is, back in the Gosselin wars, Kate had plenty of support from fans. This time, she's being called out as the fame whore who's using her kids. I'd like to think we cause that shift in public perception.
PJ
PJ-I understand that this is a hot button issue, and I agree with you. I don't think anyone is trying to find a logical explanation that would make this her fault. I think we are trying to figure out how it was that she was in pajamas and he was in a robe. It is a missing piece to the puzzle. I don't think anyone was implying anything else.
Apparently BC and JD were planning to discuss some job opportunity. This involved her meeting him in Lake Tahoe. Thus she was staying over in a platonic setting and that's why she had PJs on and he a robe.If she had her period and cramps she probably wasn't in a romantic mood anyhow. I believe her.
medialite has an article that said that Howard Stern has produced a 2006 interview in whe Janice alluded to the rape. Can;t cut and paste--sorry.. That is pretty convincing..
When this recently started being a topic I also was thinking why would a woman be anywhere with a non-family member, dressed in her pajamas, the man in his robe, alone just the two of them...seems like a dangerous situation to put one's self in.
Kind of like leaving your nice new car parked overnight unlocked in a bad neighborhood.
But then as more information becomes available the picture changes..you can see the grooming of young, vulnerable women. Women looking for father figures. He was all over that. You can see him setting them up to trust him as this older man, just trying to be a nice guy and help them out with their lives. All just setting them up.
Then the picture really changes with the possible/apparent drugging of the women. And now it's not anything to do with what the woman was doing or wearing or anything else. At that point there is no consent, implied or otherwise. It's all on him.
Apparently BC and JD were planning to discuss some job opportunity. This involved her meeting him in Lake Tahoe. Thus she was staying over in a platonic setting and that's why she had PJs on and he a robe.If she had her period and cramps she probably wasn't in a romantic mood anyhow. I believe her. 157
Thanks Formerly. I was also confused about the pis and robe as I was under the impression they were at his place. It was never about not believing her. I do..
Janice isn't the most savory of characters but victims aren't always ideal. I believe her too especially since many others have come forward who have clean backgrounds.
Rape is about power; not so much about sex.
Given his stature and looks, BC could have seduced many if not all of these women.
He chose to drug them and rape them instead.
His reputation is no longer protecting him.
Karma is a bitch.
(still reading - love this veranda)
Janice D. said on the interview that BC's lawyers shut it down about her putting what he did to her in her book back in 06? 08?. She said now, I'm not afraid anymore, come on, come after me? Something like that.
But a woman was on the phone by speaker and she said she was talking to some colleagues about what BC did to her and they told her to address him as Dr. Cosby! When JD heard that, beep beep beep, was about it. Her fiancé came up behind her and hugged her because she broke down.
N.E. Psychologist (#162), very nice to see you here! The porch
swing is a little wonky -- make sure you sit right in the middle,
and not on either side. You'll thank me later.
N.E. Psychologist said... 162
''Rape is about power; not so much about sex.
Given his stature and looks, BC could have seduced many if not all of these women.
He chose to drug them and rape them instead.
His reputation is no longer protecting him.
Karma is a bitch.''
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Thank you! STANDING OVATION!!
Mel said... 159
Kind of like leaving your nice new car parked overnight unlocked in a bad neighborhood.
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So it's your fault it got stolen? That gives people the right to steal it? Then why do we prosecute these things? It may not be the smartest move, but that doesn't mean you're not a victim or that you deserved it.
PJ
The porch swing is a little wonky -- make sure you sit right in the middle, and not on either side. You'll thank me later. 164
I will take your advice, of course, but it sounds like we need a real handy woman (as opposed to a fake/bullshitter).
Any volunteers?
So, it is the porch swing! I always thought it was the tall glass of rumspringa that made me feel tilted.
Dmasy (#168), and all this time I thought you were drinking
iced tea!
Well, well, well. Bill Cosby is trending. That's a good thing, right? Right?
PJ
Janice Dickinson has come forward and said Bill did the same thing to her. She was going to publish it in her book but Bill/his team got it dropped.
Man, woman and child should not be stupid and should not put themselves in situations that place them at risk. It is every person's obligation to avoid compromising situations in the first place. But the punishment for being so dumb is not that you get raped or otherwise a victim of a crime, or even put in an uncomfortable position.
The incredible hulk's wife should have never gone over to his house, a stranger, or been alone with a strange man. That was dumb. But she didn't deserve him slobbering all over her while his wife slept upstairs.
I thought Janice said HER publisher was the one who put the cobosh on including the rape incident in her book. That they/she didn't have the money to fight BC.
You know,it's kind of like the stories/reputation that keep following tfw. You have to ask yourself why these accusations, all eerily familiar,have plagued BC since the 60's? A lot of people didn't believe the accusations of child/animal abuse against tfw. Now you've got a highly educated man who has crafted his image to the nines. Good on all these women for speaking out when THEY were damn well ready. And Janice may be unsavoury, an addict, whatever, but she does not strike me as a liar. In fact she strikes me as someone whonis truthful to a fault. She doesn't mince words, nor does she care what people think of her
Howard talked about it earlier this week so I uses they dug out the old tapes. I think he's off next week but will let you know if they talk about it again or replay the tapes.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 172
You've to be very careful with your safety at all times.
You know,it's kind of like the stories/reputation that keep following tfw. You have to ask yourself why these accusations, all eerily familiar,have plagued BC since the 60's? A lot of people didn't believe the accusations of child/animal abuse against tfw. Now you've got a highly educated man who has crafted his image to the nines.
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This really is relatable to any other celeb out there large or small who has tried so hard to shut down dissent and craft a fake image. When has it happened that when THIS many people are speaking out, it's all made up? They must really think the American people are stupid. How can you disregard all these women?? And this is where it goes back to anybody who tries to cover things up, Kate included. The overwhelming number of people who have called her out are right. She's a fraud who exploits her children and is doing a married man. These people are not saying it for their health. They're saying it because it's true.
These celebs all have such egos and think they can use money, fame and power to set the agenda forever, and the public has about had enough of it. They've about had enough.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/janice-dickinson-said-bill-cosby-was-bad-guy-in-2006-interview-20141911
"Bill Cosby was the only guy I couldn't write about in the book, because HarperCollins is afraid of lawsuits," the supermodel said at the time. "Truly."
"He was married [to Camille O. Cosby]," Dickinson trailed, adding that the publisher was "too afraid" to publish parts of the memoir involving him. "Wouldn't touch that one," she revealed. "And I don't want to get near that because I don't have the shekels that you do or that Cosby does."
I can't stand when people come forward in defense of predators like this and say I support him he never touched ME!
Well, I'm sure he never did do anything to you. I believe that. But why in the world would you think just because he never did anything to YOU that everyone else is lying? That's faulty logic at its finest. You got LUCKY, that's all.
I can't stand when people come forward in defense of predators like this and say I support him he never touched ME!
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And then people wonder WHY victims don't come forward!
A comment from the Radar Online article about Dean wanting to stop filming (him and kids):
It's not good for all this garbage to play out in front of these children.
I also think Dean seems to be a good father but Tori never gives him credit for anything. If she does give him credit, she immediately diminishes it with some new thing he's done that upsets her. No one can please that woman.
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Change Dean to Jon and Tori to Kate and it's spot-on.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 178
I can't stand when people come forward in defense of predators like this and say I support him he never touched ME!
Well, I'm sure he never did do anything to you. I believe that. But why in the world would you think just because he never did anything to YOU that everyone else is lying? That's faulty logic at its finest. You got LUCKY, that's all.
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If you're talking about Raven Symone, the reason she made a statement was because a parody website put out a story that she said she also was raped by BC, and was going to file charges. I don't think she was defending him so much, but was just setting the record straight that the story on the parody site(which sparked the rumors) was false.
From the Huff Post:
"The actress, who appeared on "The Cosby Show" from 1989 to 1992 alongside Cosby, posted a photo of herself from the show on her Instagram. "I was NOT taking [sic] advantage of by Mr. Cosby when I was on the Cosby Show!" the actress wrote in the photo's caption. "I was practically a baby on that show and this is truly a disgusting rumor that I want no part of! Everyone on that show treated me with nothing but kindness. Now keep me out of this!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/20/raven-symone-bill-cosby_n_6194912.html
Also, I'm curious as to why you keep referring to one of the alleged victim's as "the incredible hulk's wife", rather than by name.
TMZ has a new story about another actress accusing BC. How many does that make now?
http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/20/bill-cosby-forced-oral-sex-victim-jonny-carson-louisa-moritz/
It has a quote from Marty Singer:
Cosby's lawyer, Marty Singer, tells TMZ, "We've reached a point of absurdity. The stories are getting more ridiculous."
I wouldn't say they're getting more ridiculous. I'd say they're getting more numerous. Perhaps, Marty, like his client, should keep quiet.
Good to hear from you, N.E. Psychologist! Had to change names, I hope you know who I really am! Your post was excellent,
N.E. Psychologist! *\o/*
Remona Blue, you took the words right out of my mouth, Standing Ovation! *\o/*
Also, I'm curious as to why you keep referring to one of the alleged victim's as "the incredible hulk's wife", rather than by name.
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I can't recall her name. I heard her on a radio show, and they only said her name a few times. In fact I think I missed the beginning if I recall. I actually tried to google her and couldn't find her. IT's possible that's the only media she did. Her story isn't nearly as bad as the others so the interest may not be there.
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/entertainment/2014/11/20/bill_cosby_accused_by_florida_woman_of_forced_sex.html
Another one
So Marty Singer is releasing criminal records of some of BC's accusers. Is that supposed to be his defense? That if you have a criminal record you have to be lying and couldn't have been raped? His response is one of the reasons why victims don't report rape, because their life is put under a microscope. It's attacking the victim, and forgetting about the crime.
"On Thursday, the attorney for Bill Cosby slammed the numerous allegations of sexual assault against his client, saying the Emmy-winner was the victim of a “media-driven feeding frenzy.”
“People are coming out the wood work with fabricated or unsubstantiated stories about my client,” Martin Singer said in a lengthy statement. He also released the criminal records of several of Cosby’s accusers, including Linda Joy Traitz and Lou Ferrigno’s wife, Carla Ferrigno.
“This continued pattern of attacks has entered the realm of the ridiculous,” he said."
http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/new-bill-cosby-accuser-says-he-drugged-sexually-assaulted-her-in-the-70s-1201361662/
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 161
Janice isn't the most savory of characters but victims aren't always ideal. I believe her too especially since many others have come forward who have clean backgrounds.
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I think that is often the problem with victims of predators.. Predators choose and groom their victims because they are vulnerable or at risk. Then, because these women often have other behaviors in their histories, they are not considered to be credible.
http://time.com/3598450/better-call-saul-premiere/
Yay!!!
So Marty Singer is releasing criminal records of some of BC's accusers. Is that supposed to be his defense? That if you have a criminal record you have to be lying and couldn't have been raped? His response is one of the reasons why victims don't report rape, because their life is put under a microscope. It's attacking the victim, and forgetting about the crime.
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That's despicable. Not just for these victims but for all victims past and present scared to report because they might be under attack. It's sickening how below board that is. I bet BV would approve.
Her name is Carla Ferrigno, and her story is now being included in a lot of stories about BC.
Did you read the story about the AP interview BC did on Nov. 6? They asked them about the allegations, and he said he had no comment. Then he later asked AP to delete that part of the interview.
I think that is very telling. You basically say "no comment" and then want them to delete them ever bringing it up in the first place? Why not just stay with the "no comment" and leave it at that? Trying to get them to quash that part of the interview, makes him look even worse.
http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/new-bill-cosby-accuser-says-he-drugged-sexually-assaulted-her-in-the-70s-1201361662/
http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/timeline-of-the-abuse-charges-against-cosby.html
This is a timeline of the events and accusations, which is being updated in real time. To date, there have been 15 women who have come forward in the last decade. Thirteen of them were scheduled to testify in a civil suit, which was eventually settled. All of the ones with details involved drugging.
All of his reruns have been pulled from the schedule, and talks for a new show have been shelved. I find this so sad...who is next---Mr. Rogers?
I don't understand not believing this many people. Does no one ask why in the world someone would make something like this up about a 77 year ld man? I can see digging up some motive for one or two people, but fifteen? Get a grip.
Her name is Carla Ferrigno, and her story is now being included in a lot of stories about BC.
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Great! It should be.
It demonstrates that he tried to take advantage of young, impressionable young women and that he behaved inappropriately. Also I think it's highly significant that he might have been using a third party to funnel him these women. Carla said her male companion suggested they go over to Cosby's then left her alone with him, and that she never saw this guy again. With? Even if he didn't rape her, it's still in the spectrum of what's going on here.
Dmasy?? I know you said you recently moved and I'm asking for your wise advice.
How did you not freak the eff out leaving your old home and all the memories? Because I am SO completely overwhelmed.
Also, how does one go through all the school stuff from a now grown son?? I know I can't keep it all but how does one decide what to keep and what to toss??
Any and all advice is welcome. I'm moving from a home I raised my son in for 12 years to a beautiful new condo....and it's so much harder than I thought.
Kind of like leaving your nice new car parked overnight unlocked in a bad neighborhood.
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So it's your fault it got stolen? That gives people the right to steal it? Then why do we prosecute these things? It may not be the smartest move, but that doesn't mean you're not a victim or that you deserved it.
PJ
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If you are stupid enough to leave your new car unlocked in a bad neighborhood, then it is your fault if it's stolen. If you can't use the common sense that was given to you, then you shouldn't be surprised when you wake up to find that your car was wrecked and abandoned in another part of town. You are a victim...of your own negligence.
All of his reruns have been pulled from the schedule, and talks for a new show have been shelved. I find this so sad...who is next---Mr. Rogers?
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My first reaction to this comment is it was over the top to suggest someone like Mr. Rogers could be next. Almost sacrilegious.
But on reflection you know what, I think your comment is a fair one.
I had my first eye opening experience into the cruel, nasty and disgusting behind the scenes lifestyle of celebs ten years ago. I realized that someone who presents as a delicate rose on TV was actually mean and hateful, not interested in their children or in being a parent, and so wrapped up in fame, money and their career everything else got lost including some really nice children. I lost my idealism then. Since then, as a society we've become much more open to talking about things that make us uncomfortable and a lot more of this crap is getting exposed. The various sheeple don't like it, but it's happening.
And here's the thing. I believe that many, perhaps even most, people who seek celebrity seek it because they have at least some degree of narcissism, greed, quest for power, or other bad or negative traits. When you put those kind of people in a position of calling the shots, terrible things like this happen. As John and Ken said today on the radio, maybe more greedy selfish people would do this it's just they don't have the fame money and power to execute it so it doesn't happen on this scale. The bottom line is bad people want this kind of fame because it allows them to execute the bad things they do.
Celebrity gives nasty people a means to an end that normal people don't have access to. Terrible things result, like rape, child molestation and exploitation, criminal behaviors.
I think this is the dark side of celebrity. We generally idolize these people. Billy Cosby is a brilliant comedian, great with kids, and his body of work is sheer brilliance. But they let's face it, he's a bad person. Good people do not chase celebrity.
Now I do believe there are some very nice and normal celebs out there who care mostly about acting and the craft--and fame just happened. But I think it's becoming clear they are a minority. There is a lot of evil in Hollywood, and the more it is exposed the better.
Thanks Vanessa. I'm looking forward to Better Call Saul.
If you are stupid enough to leave your new car unlocked in a bad neighborhood, then it is your fault if it's stolen. If you can't use the common sense that was given to you, then you shouldn't be surprised when you wake up to find that your car was wrecked and abandoned in another part of town. You are a victim...of your own negligence.
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I'm not sure I agree with this.
I do agree there are a lot of idiots out there who do really dumb things with their cars, or bodies, or whatever. I do agree idiots should not be so darn idiotic.
But it doesn't mean it's okay to take someone's car, rape them, or otherwise. Having a serious crime committed against you should not be the punishment for being an idiot. That's hardly fair. No criminal gets to go in court and say but your honor, the car was unlocked!
Apparently BC and JD were planning to discuss some job opportunity. This involved her meeting him in Lake Tahoe. Thus she was staying over in a platonic setting and that's why she had PJs on and he a robe.
hmmmm...the last time I had a business meeting with someone it was platonic and very casual, but I didn't pack my jammies to do so. I guess things are different in Tahoe! We're not that relaxed on the East Coast! More uptight and conventional, I guess. Different strokes for different folks!
hmmmm...the last time I had a business meeting with someone it was platonic and very casual, but I didn't pack my jammies to do so.
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Lol I know. Obviously not.
But frankly it's artsy fartsy celebs. They're weird. They do weird things, like having a business meeting in pajamas.
I've also found that the artsy outgoing actor types are MUCH more open and have far fewer boundaries. You sort of have to be super comfortable about being so open, since you open yourself up to the public all the time. There were serious boundary and privacy issues in the house I worked in. Nothing sexual or anything, but I did worry that the lack of boundaries might make social interactions difficult for the children if they didn't learn how to be more normal and not so open book all the time.
It doesn't mean you go on raping people just because you're more open than most. I thought nothing of that seemingly odd detail frankly.
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