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Beth's relationships with the children, whom she says she helped watch
for "a week at a time," was always very loving and warm. In this screen capture
from Gosselins Go Sking, Beth tells Aaden that she has to go home early for her
daughter's birthday but that she would like to take Aaden with her in her suitcase.
Aaden responds with enthusiastic and adorable nodding.
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- Beth wrote Multiple Blessings "absolutely" all herself, and she and Kate had agreed to a 50-50 split of the proceeds. Kate later tried to take back the deal and cut her down to at least a third. Beth had a lawyer and made sure she got her original cut.
- Beth's friendship with Kate ended after Kate cut Beth off from the promotion of Multiple Blessings (despite tweets from Kate in 2011 claiming Beth is still in her life). Beth confirms that is a lie, that she hasn't spoken to Kate "for years and years."
- Beth tried to keep up the relationship with Jon afterward, but it got "messy."
- Beth "purposely" has not commented for years.
Meanwhile, when asked if what Beth is saying is true, Kate responded on twitter: "no." Give it up, Kate.
1189 sediments (sic) from readers:
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If I remember correctly, I believe that it's been said that the Carsons paid for the twins' initial tuition.
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I believe you are correct.
And this is how Kate repays that kindness. Karma is coming, full steam ahead.
it's about f*ckin time.
jcb
Beth's speaking out doesn't make Jon sound like a great person either. Did he just do what he was told by Kate or was he a part of it to push Beth out of the picture and snag her share of the book sales?
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Jon from this time period was busy changing diapers and making sure the kids were fed and bathed and their needs met while Kate started to really amp up her "I'm a celebrity" lifestyle. This was a REALLY busy time for Kate. The show was really catching on and that book did WELL, no question about it. She was in her prime.
I picture him sort of like, whatever you ladies work it out. But like most husbands he's not going to go to great lengths to try to take up for Beth over his wife in a dispute this messy. What's telling is that she was quite clear that they remained very close to Jon for some time, so it doesn't sound like she blamed him for the incident or why would she remain friends.
When she said she broke things off because it got "messy" I took that to mean it was messy because of Kate. Sometimes you need to completely break off your association with the family for the good of everyone, even your relationship with people who are not an issue. Also, it could create turmoil for the children if Kate finds out they are seeing Beth on Jon's time. I have always liked Beth even when she didn't speak out, and I respect her even more now. It sounds like she put her own mental health and that of her family over this mess, which was the right thing to do, even when there are kids involved. At the end of the day, these were not her kids to save nor could she. I have a dozen more questions for Beth but she got the main points I was curious about out.
I'm so happy that someone is finally speaking out about Kate and her abusive, controllng, greedy ways. I remember in a couch interview for the show where Kate said that she lived it and Beth wrote it. Therefore, Kate has no right to claim this book as her writing. To prove it, just read the 2 books that came after. Eight Little Faces was filled with kids pictures and bible verses. I Just Want You To Know was a poor premise and very poor writing. I won't even talk about the pathetic cook book!
Do you think it's a good idea to tell the general public this info? Now ANYONE can call 911 and say 'I have a restraining order! Hurry!'. By the time they discover there IS no such piece of paper, the cops are already there to help. lol
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Restraining orders have to be registered with the police department, and can be easily searched by name or case number to verify you do indeed have a restraining order. It's the first thing they do when they get the call. In fact if you don't go through the proper procedures to register them (in my case we simply need to route it to the police office downstairs) you start getting nasty phone calls within hours saying what is going on here this is not correct, this is misspelled, this is not filled out, etc. They take it seriously. They make sure they are correct, and registered, within hours.
Jumping In said... 50
Well, the Dominos are starting to tumble, and what is Kate to do?
The update special was beyond boring, and she is just one of many players on Celebrity Apprentice (which may not even air), so what's left? If a network invites her on air to defend these "accusations", then the tough questions have to be asked, right? She can deny, but if she dares I suspect there will be many more who will come forward to finish her off for good. There is a long line of people she has burned who may very well join Robert and Beth if she dares to tell just one more lie.
She now needs to tend to the children she claims to live for, fold up her tent and call it a day. She has to shut down Twitter, focus on the 8 kids who made her famous, and accept the fact it is OVER.
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Bringing this over from the previous thread. This is getting a little scary--can you all imagine what's going thru her head right now? Is she taking this latest "betrayal" out on the kids? "No never means no" to TFMJG and I'm sure she's plotting ways to get back on TV/get even with all of the people who have wronged her.
Administrator--did Jon ever indicate to you if he has a contingency plan for the emergency that will occur when she finally snaps? Not trying to be dramatic and won't go into possible diagnoses, but she will snap sooner than later. I just pray the kids are not in her path when she does.
I REMEMBERED Kate trying to claim that Beth was still around, back in 2011. Yeah right. What a liar she is, she's pathological. Did she think she was never going to get caught?
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Kate can't remember her lies, but we can! Kate, everything you said has been documented. Oops.
Gladys and the sheep. You can't change history, no matter how hard you try to spin it your way. It's all out there.
That seems so mean to cut her off the promotional tours. That's the FUN part after all your hard work.
As I recall Kate did a multi city tour. Hotels, first class flights, VIP treatments, lines of fans. The first book did well and the promotion must have been a real blast if you're into that sort of thing. No hiding in closets back in 2008.
I feel sorry for Beth. It's the old adage no good deed goes unpunished.
Gladys and the sheep. You can't change history, no matter how hard you try to spin it your way. It's all out there.
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She proved herself a liar by that tweet. So now we know who is telling the truth and who is lying, thanks to Kate.
She stupidly claimed in 2011 they were still friends. BIG MISTAKE. I really doubt someone you claim is still your friend and still in your life would give an interview like this. Please.
Had she never said anything, she would be able to claim Beth is a liar with a bit more credibility. But she, OOPS, tried to claim she was still a friend. And now we know she's lying. So I'm going to bet on the person who has never been caught in any lies and not believe the lying liar who has been repeatedly caught. Too bad.
Kate in the end is always her own undoing. Her mouth.
I have always liked Beth even when she didn't speak out, and I respect her even more now.
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Yes, but there was one thing that Beth never should have done -- told Kate that a day at the spa away from the kids made women better mommies! Kate heard that and then took it to the extreme!
Ok, on twitter Kate says she is still friends with Beth.
Robert stated in ebook #1 that he witnessed the two ladies passing each other in a grocery store aisle and neither one of them acknowledged the other's presence.
Gee, if they were still friends, they would have spoken.
Kate's a liar through and through. She is one scary bitch.
jcb
I know twitter is messed up but I don't see a lot of fans taking up for her this time. There were only a few responses to Kate's sad little "no" tweet and it was mostly from non-fans or perhaps even just random people saying well Beth seems nice enough I tend to believe her. Most of the responses were very calm and reasonable.
I know the fans liked Beth just like we did. They're really going to have to make a big leap here to discount this. I mean they'll do it, but this is a much harder leap to do than when Robert tries to explain it to them.
Pop the popcorn folks, I know it's only Monday but rumspringas all around, on me!
I disagree. It is not up to her to do all of that. Why should her lifestyle change if he's the one doing the stalking?.
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I also disagree. Someone who is being stalked should not have to alter their life like that so drastically. We especially as women should not have to hide from men that bad. If you have to do that, then the law and law enforcement is not doing their jobs and you need to do something about that to hold their feet to the fire and follow up. If someone is stalking you so bad you need to change your name, that person should be in jail.
It seems like I remember Kate saying that she and Beth would go to a hotel on weekends, and she would tell the story and Beth would write. Now, if they were alone in a hotel, who had those kids? I think I know. I think that Jon, Beth's husband, and Beth's daughters took care of the kids those weekends. Maybe not-a-nanny was there too. Kate owes SO much to Beth.
Everything is fine in Gosselinland. In fact I'm sure that unicorns are frolicking on the lawn with Shoka while the kids search for the pot of gold that is at the end of the double rainbow that shimmers over the McMansion. Right on cue TFW is shitting Brach's candy corn.
@Kateplusmy8: Fun day here! Manis and Pedis for my teens and other kid logistics more than usual... Can summer last forever please? #We'reHavingFun
Admin, thanks for the rumspringa!
I really hope Beth reads here.
Here's the jackpot question, sheeple: What reason would Beth have to lie about this, especially after so many years of keeping quiet? She certainly isn't looking for attention, for fame and fortune, for money, for recognition as an author. Exactly why, then, would Beth lie about it?
If the only way you have to spin this is to play the jellusy card, that isn't going to work. Not anymore. Not now. Not ever.
Then when TFW had more money than Beth, TFW had no more use for Beth.
Poor schmoopy. Everyone leaves her.
Yeah, right. More like she leaves *them*....in the dust.
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That's exactly what happened. She needed Beth until like a jet plane she suddenly hit it big. Then she was bigger than Beth, and suddenly, Beth was of no use to her. Rather, Beth turned into competition. Competition who would share in the first class VIP treatment Kate was starting to get. Kate always sees life as a fixed pie and that anyone else who takes part in her spoils is taking AWAY from her. Rather, this was an expanding thing, not fixed, but she didn't see it that way.
What's sad is that she and Beth could have shared in the spoils together. It's always nice to have a great girlfriend by your side through your successes. They could have had loads of fun enjoying this crazy fame thing. Who does that? Who cuts off your best friend especially during such a crazy time?
NJGal51 # 14
you had me laughing so hard. LOL unicorns, pots of gold and brach's candy corn.
LOLOLOL
jcb
I'm sure that the reason Beth hasn't come forward until now is because she knew damn well Kate would call her a liar, and that she'd face a ton of scrutiny, knowing Kate and her media connections.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kate takes this fight public and tries to destroy Beth.
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Em Tanner-ado part two!
That's my play on Sharknado lol.
Here is the interview that The Reading Eagle did with Beth back in December 2008.
http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=117302
An excerpt:
The process of writing the book took about a year, and in order to accomplish the task, Beth and Kate checked themselves into a hotel in Lancaster for a few weekends in order to set uninterrupted time aside.
"Kate and I would literally stay in our room for 72 hours and our husbands would take care of the kids back at home," Carson said.
While Carson is listed as a co-author on the book, she makes each of their contributions clear.
"They lived it and I wrote it," she said.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m
@SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 There R 2sides 2this! Kate has remained respectfully quiet all these yrs
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When I think of Kate Gosselin the first thing I think is "respectfully quiet."
Then she was bigger than Beth, and suddenly, Beth was of no use to her. Rather, Beth turned into competition.
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She didn't stray from her pattern, did she.
I think her curt "no" is the shortest tweet I've ever seen her tweet. No. bwahahaha. Nothing to back up that "no".
Thanks for the rumspringa Admin. Next round's on me.
I think her curt "no" is the shortest tweet I've ever seen her tweet. No. bwahahaha. Nothing to back up that "no".
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Lol I know.
I love the lowercase too. Like this story cannot be dignified with a capital letter. Haha, this is great.
Beth was always a class act. Even when she was one of the baby sitters at the Utah skit trip while Jon and Kate went out to dinner. She was used and abused beyond belief. She behaved like a true "Lady" by not screaming fowl right away. I am so glad she has spoken out at last. What a great thing she has done. Kate, if I were you, I would take the kids to Australia and stay there. Or better yet, Kate, you go to Australia and let Jon move in the mansion and let those kids learn how real people behave.
Well well Kate. You really thought the re release of Roberts book was going to leave you unscathed. Not true! This book has cut you wide open. This is just the beginning dear Kate. If I were you I'd be shaking in my boots wondering who's going to be next one to drop another kate truth. So many people tossed away and treated like shit.The list must be very very long. Maybe you just didn't know how to help all these people who are finally turning on you now.
Em Tanner-ado part two!
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Yes! I didn't even think of that.
When Em went public with what a piece of work Kate was, Kate took the claws out and sharpened them before disemboweling Em on Twitter and whatever other bully pulpit she had access to.
Beth better put her seatbelt on-- it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Kate's a liar through and through. She is one scary bitch.
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Not to mention...sick.
This is Milo's reply to Kate's "no" tweet.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 48s
@Kateplusmy8 @tiffwit19 U were young/inexperienced back then...so much was happening so fast. Everyone wanted a piece of U. Sharks came out!
Is she saying that Beth took advantage of poor, defenseless Kate? Beth was a shark?
Sorry, Milo, there's no way to spin this to Kate's advantage. Kate was the shark who tried to take advantage of a good friend. A friend who(with her husband) according to Kate's own journal was even willing to buy her and Jon a house back in 2007.
Friends to Kate are people she can use to get what she needs and then throws them by the wayside. The only friends she has now are Jamie and Deanna and they're using her, just as much as she is using them.
Pop the popcorn folks, I know it's only Monday but rumspringas all around, on me!
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I'll throw in the kale chips! LOL!
The thing is that the sheeple have those rose-colored glasses superglued to their faces. There is nothing that is going to remove them, and their Kook-Aid, err, Kool-Aid is still flowing.
Amazing. Some one over "there" thinks that Beth was one of the "Sharks" out to take a piece of "young and innocent" Kate. So deluded.
I am afraid that Kate is pretty hard to live with these days. She says the twins are having "manis and pedis" and that summer doesn't last long enough. What is really going on? I think those kids are staying out of her way as much as is possible in that house of hatred their mother rules with her stupid wagging fingers and post it notes. I am sure it ain't pretty there tonight. I even feel afraid for the boys. I am so sorry for those little kids.
I always liked Beth and am glad she is finally speaking out. Both she and her husband, Bob (?) tried to help both Jon and Kate in many ways. At one point, I believe Jon even worked for Bob. It really is no surprise to me that Kate attempted to cheat Beth out of the Multiple Blessings proceeds. As usual, Kate wanted someone to do all of the work while she received all of the glory.
@PatriciaChow1: Kate Gosselin ‘Ditched’ By Bodyguard: Did Steve Neild Leave Kate Because Of Wife’s Ultimatum? http://po.st/RPv17a via @theinquisitr
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I can't figure Patricia out. Is she friend or foe? It doesn't matter because what she seems to be is honest and will call TFW and her über fans out.
Is she saying that Beth took advantage of poor, defenseless Kate? Beth was a shark?
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It's disgusting to imply Beth was only in the game because she wanted a piece of her.
Beth was involved AGES before the cameras were. When those cameras showed up, Beth had already solidified her place as a nice church lady with a lot of free time due to being upper middle class. She wanted to help Kate, Jon and the babies and genuinely grew to love the family. That much was clear. Beth was rich. Look at her. It was never about the money. It was however, about paying people FAIRLY for their work and honoring your contracts. That is FAIR.
To suggest otherwise is incredibly cruel and ignores what we could all see on film.
Beth quite frankly was GENEROUS for only asking for 50% when she wrote the whole thing.
I think the possible reason why Beth chose to speak out now is that Amber at ROL got to the part in the book where Robert wrote about the writing of MB. Amber probably was going to write a story about it, including the parts about Kate and Beth's falling out, and may have requested comment from Beth.
It seems Beth decided to finally come out and tell the truth about what happened and why she is no longer friends with Kate.
All I can say, is good for Beth!
I think the possible reason why Beth chose to speak out now is that Amber at ROL got to the part in the book where Robert wrote about the writing of MB. Amber probably was going to write a story about it, including the parts about Kate and Beth's falling out, and may have requested comment from Beth.
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And thanks to Amber too.
I think Amber might be very persuasive and tenacious. It's interesting that after all this time it's Amber who gets her to open up. Amber has also had similar successes getting the nannies to talk. I don't now what she's saying but it's working.
Amber is awesome.
In TFW's own words, "No never means no."
Who's in the mood for a little Culture Club? I wonder if TFW is having a dance party to Karma Chameleon? No? Didn't think so! I'm stunned and thrilled that Beth spoke out, of all those left in the dirt by Katie I never expected Beth to tell her side. This gives me hope that there will be many, many more stepping up to set the record straight. 2014 is TFW's annus horribilis.
NJGal, I'm afraid that all the members of my local DAR chapter are over the age of 75. Hubs keeps asking my why they're so determined that I join (three calls, five emails just today). I told him maybe they want a nurse at all the meetings but don't want to pay for it. ;-) I had a head thrown back LOL over your Goddamnit Spike! story. I sometimes refer to Rudy in far worse terms not suitable for polite blogs. Let's just say the first word is Fat and the second word begins with an F. I'm not strong enough for two years of this..how did you survive? I keep asking everyone who roams into my yard if they remember Winston (first bully) being THIS awful..cause I don't.... Of course he was as bad, but just like some Moms forget the pain of labor (not me), I've selectively erased Win's bad puppy year. I think it was only one year but who knows. I roamed around probably fifty acres in the heat yesterday looking like a reject from a Farmers Only commercial ;)
Beth was more than generous. She was living the life Kate wanted to live. Beth had so much, and gave and gave to Kate. She saw a lot that we didn't see. I was thinking about popping some popcorn and watching this for a few hours. I can't. I have lost my appetite. I am closing down the computer for tonight. Thanks, Admin. You have been outstanding in allowing this site where we could gather and worry together. You have been wonderful. Good night for now.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m
Just look the other way. @Kateplusmy8 There R certain people that don't belong N ur life. There's a reason they aren't around. #FriendsStay
Milo, why don't you think of what might be the reasons that they didn't stay? Friendship goes both ways. What Kate tried to do to Beth was anything but being a friend.
The more she tries to boost Kate, the more idiotic she looks.
Got to love Sue Buddy's tweet to Milo, after Milo's #FriendsStay tweet:
Sue Buddy @Sue_Buddy · 1m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 #FriendsDontTryAndCheatYouOutOfMoneyYouveEarned
You also got to love that for once somebody other than Kate "set the record straight" and it wasn't Kate. And she did it without using "to be honest", "honestly", "for the record" or "truth be told".
Milo just can't stop, can she?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 45s
@kateplusmy8 The opinions of others don't matter. They don't know what U know. They don't work as hard as U work. Their life is not ur life.
That's right, Milo. You are one of the "they". You don't know anything either.
Kelly - Maybe that's why my MIL enjoys DAR so much, they're old but she's older so she's the grande dame.
I do think we tend to forget how horrid bully puppies can be but how can you stay mad when you catch them snoozing with a favorite toy (which, BTW, he stole from his cousin the Great Pyrenees). Check out my new avatar. But then he does something horrible when he wakes up and your husband catches you giving the dog the finger (and you actually call his name so he'll look and know the finger is aimed at him).
I can't figure Patricia out. Is she friend or foe? It doesn't matter because what she seems to be is honest and will call TFW and her über fans out.
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I don't know, either, but I don't think she's Team Kate all the way. At one time she commented that she was Team Kids and is not falling all over Kate and worshiping the ground she walks on.
They don't work as hard as U work
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Oh no she didn't. She isn't seriously trying to tell people that nobody works as hard as Kate. Much less Beth, who wrote the book all herself. How dare she accuse other women of not working as hard or harder than Kate. F-U Milo.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 48s
@Kateplusmy8 @tiffwit19 U were young/inexperienced back then...so much was happening so fast. Everyone wanted a piece of U.
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Milo wants more than a piece of Kate. She wants the whole package.
Get a grip, Milo. You sound more pathetic than usual, which is pretty darn bad. So Milo knows exactly what was going on in Kate's life back then. She knows from personal experience. Too bad she wasn't there to advise poor innocent Kate and fend off sharks such as Beth.
Sometimes I think that Milo is more obnoxious and annoying than Kate.
Holy shizzle! I've been at work since five! Beth was always so sweet I'm glad she's standing up for herself
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m
Just look the other way. @Kateplusmy8 There R certain people that don't belong N ur life.
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Agree Milo. Kate doesn't DESERVE a woman as lovely, generous and patient as Beth.
Kate is a twit said... 40
Got to love Sue Buddy's tweet to Milo, after Milo's #FriendsStay tweet:
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Thanks. Patricia Chow retweeted it and retweeted another of mine:
Patricia Chow retweeted you
25m: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 You're darn right! Takes a "special" person to try and cheat their good friend out of well-deserved compensation
So I guess we know where she stands on this topic.
In TFW's own words, "No never means no."
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Except, apparently, when Beth lawyered up.
Good.....for.....Beth.
Lying easily becomes a habit. A person who lies once will lie again with less effort Kate will pay the price
The Bible mentions seven results of lying. If you lie:
You will attract liars into your life (Prov. 17:4).
You will lack understanding (Ps. 119:104).
You will never enjoy permanent results (Prov. 12:19; 21:28).
You will end up in bondage (Gal. 2:4).
You will be punished (Prov. 19:5).
You will become a fool (Prov. 10:18).
Your lies will come back upon you (Ps. 7:14-16).
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 47
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m
Just look the other way. @Kateplusmy8 There R certain people that don't belong N ur life.
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So now Milo knows who Kate should have as friends? Good grief...that woman is certifiable.
She tweeted a few days ago that nobody knows what Kate went through awhile back. Milo knows this? She was there? If you look up the stages of CWS, this clearly is one of the signs. She has inserted herself into Kate's life, asserting that she knows exactly what has gone on there, and what is happening now. She really believes that she and Kate are best friends and that she is an integral part of Kate's life. It's very disturbing.
If I were Kate, I would be terribly afraid of this person. Seriously. These are the people who are in danger of losing it, and going off on the object of their affection. Nothing good is going to come out of this one-sided relationship that Milo has with Kate. There's a mental health issue going on there, and I just find it difficult to believe that her family (if there is one) hasn't intervened. Maybe they know, and they just don't care.
Patricia Chow cracks me up I never know where she stands haha
Sue Buddy @Sue_Buddy 4m
@SharnaPax @HarryTNacious @popems42 @BarbaraJean_s @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Yeah, there is. She's nuttier than a freakin fruitcake.
LOL, Sue Buddy! That's one of the best I've read. I guess that's really the bottom line and you didn't mince words. I'm still chuckling as I type this.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 48s
@Kateplusmy8 @tiffwit19 U were young/inexperienced back then...so much was happening so fast. Everyone wanted a piece of U.
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No, nothing happened too fast. Kate was 33 years old when BETH wrote the book. Beth and Kate made an agreement for Beth to write the book, split the proceeds 50% and go on the book tour together. They made a deal, then Kate tried very hard to screw Beth over and Beth had to involve an attorney. Beth wrote the entire book herself, how in the hell can you call that "trying 2 get a piece of U."
Stop making excuses and stop rewriting history for Kate. You're pathetic Milo.
Anxious to see if Robert comments. He wrote that Beth's book was a pack of lies.
I am glad she finally said something. Kate took advantage of the Carson's: babysitting, paying for dinners, a job for Jon. Kate was so delusional she thought the Carson's would buy them a house! Kate couldn't say enough kind things about Beth. So what changed? Kate was getting rich and Steve was in the picture. The puzzle pieces are falling into place.
I hope Amber followed up with more questions to Beth.
Holy cow! I went to Patricia Chow's twitter...she retweeted a BUNCH of no fan tweets AND the ROL article
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 45s
@kateplusmy8 The opinions of others don't matter. They don't know what U know. They don't work as hard as U work. Their life is not ur life.
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lol. According to the people who DO know Kate, i.e. Joel and Collin, Kate sleeps or runs errands. That's her work.
No, nothing happened too fast. Kate was 33 years old when BETH wrote the book.
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33! Well geez she'd be the grandmother shaman in cavemen days. Come off it, you should not be that naive at 33. You should have been a working woman for well over ten years by then and feel quite savvy now. You know how relationships work both romantic and friendship. You know what motherhood is, you know not to just sign a contract like you might at 19. You are not stupid at this age and full well know what it means when someone says "a deal's a deal." Shut up, Milo. Shut up shut up shut up.
Milo sure paints a picture of quite the idiot there. You would think Kate would be able to recognize the bad eggs better and not let them care for her children for a WEEK in the first place. I think she makes Kate look like a helpless dolt.
The funny thing is TFW was SOOO smug the other day about her rule list. She saw people commenting on the ROL story that the rule list was OK and tweeted about her stalker and the best they had was the rules and said " yawn" . Maybe that emboldened Beth
Holy cow! I went to Patricia Chow's twitter...she retweeted a BUNCH of no fan tweets AND the ROL article
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Red rover red rover, send Patricia over (here)!
Sue Buddy,
Can we look forward to another one of your straight-shooting articles on the latest ROL story, including the crazy sheeple's spin on this?
Sleepless In Seattle said... 60
Gotta give it some thought. Was out and didn't see the ROL article until I got back. Surprised the heck out of me. LOL I'll sleep on it. The comments from all the "nons" are great.
admin said, "Holy cow! I went to Patricia Chow's twitter...she retweeted a BUNCH of no fan tweets AND the ROL article "
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She seems to flip-flop quite a bit, though. It's unclear which side of the fence she is on. I do believe, though, that there are a few fans who may be able to say that hey, something really isn't right with Kate, and they might not be quite so supportive. Only time will tell, especially if there are more Radar articles in the queue.
Sue Buddy:
I loved your freakin' fruitcake tweet (about Milo). So funny, so succinct, but so spot on!
TFW has really got to be wondering who else Amber is interviewing.
NJGal51 said...14
I cracked up laughing at your post! I could just see unicorns and Shoka dancing and prancing holding paws and her sitting on her white plastic throne chair eating her precious candy corn, while the kids on a treasure hunt for the pot of gold at the end of the Skittles rainbow.
Deanna: We need more Glitter!
Would love to see that animated. When Ina Garten, Barefoot Contessa turned down a little boy who had cancer to cook with him at 3 years old and then at 6 years old, people went berserk. Make a Wish begged him to go swim with the dolphins, but he was determined he wanted to cook with Ina, he loved her and her show! He and his mother watched BC while he was in the hospital taking his chemo treatments. I guess his version of Barney.
A Taiwanese Animators company made a film and wow! Wish they had kate's number!
http://youtu.be/cw8aeTLILvA
As this tornado of truth is spinning out of control directly toward Kate, I have another thought about how she is handling things at home. I bet she is laying it on thick with the kids, after all she is their mother and needs them to circle her wagon. The twins are no fools, and I suspect they are on ROL all the time, Kate thinks she can control their access, but she is a deluding herself. My guess is they know first-hand what is being said (almost daily) about their mother.
She has to keep these kids buttered-up and happy, especially Mady and Cara, who else does she have to defend her now that her lies are coming back to haunt her? Perhaps this is the safest time for these kids, just a thought.
There's something I wonder about Milo, though. This may be a "gag me" question, but does LOM order Milo to bed and then LOM comes to bed at his leisure, presumably (and preferably) after Milo is asleep; or is LOM waiting in bed for Milo at 11 p.m. sharp? Or do both of them stroll hand-in-hand into the boudoir?
I know, I know,. I've had too much of admin's rumspringa. Time to say goodnight, Fleecing.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 7
That seems so mean to cut her off the promotional tours. That's the FUN part after all your hard work.
As I recall Kate did a multi city tour. Hotels, first class flights, VIP treatments, lines of fans. The first book did well and the promotion must have been a real blast if you're into that sort of thing. No hiding in closets back in 2008.
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Did Skeeve go on the Multiple Blessings Tour? If so, that may be why K didn't want Beth along. As well as wanting the attention to be "mine, all mine!"
I'm so glad Beth wound up keeping her name on the book and getting her share of the proceeds.
It's so ironic that Kate had all that plastic surgery hoping to make it big in show business because she is TOAST. So now she's left with her fun house face and no chance in hell of getting work in tv again
I think she makes Kate look like a helpless dolt.
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Kate does a great job of that all by herself, but Milo is a master at reinforcing it. Funny thing is that she doesn't even know that she's doing it. It's almost like she's helping Kate over that cliff, and I don't think that's her intention at all.
From previous thread:
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 62
I know we've heard this one half to one third story about Beth before, for years. Who first told us this, was it Robert?
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Robert discussed this situation at length in the book. He wrote about TFW putting Jon's name on the book in an effort to cut Beth's take from 1/2 to 1/3, and how hurtful it was to Beth when TFW refused to allow her to go on the publicity tour. The bit of information Robert didn't include/know was that Beth actually did get her 50% she was owed. Good for Beth for corroborating Robert's reporting of what happened to cause the falling out with Kate.
The dominoes are toppling fast and furiously. To quote the lying liar who lies: "Yee-haw!"
I remember when on a episode, kate was sitting in the floor, carpeted, and all of the kids were sitting in the floor, coloring to keep them occupied. I think they were at the passport office getting passports. Jon was talking about going to Korea and kate started yelling at Jon, Jon don't tell everybody where we are going, plans. Then Jon said, something like, we are not going to North Korea. I am trying to remember this.
Does anyone remember this?
That little no. said it all. She didn't even give it the dignity or respect of a capital letter. Wow, what a psychotic liar. That little no shows she knows she got busted. Even if kate had Beth and Bob sign a NDC, Laverne and Shirley won't help her. Their both sick of her.
So, correct me if I am wrong. kate thought she could steal all of the percentage and the book tour from Beth but, Beth had the contract and she got lawyered up and was able to get it. I can't believe kate's nerve! B&B paid for the twins tutition, took care of the kids, a week at a time. That means a week at a time, MANY TIMES. Helped them out with money. Then kate tried very VERY hard to take away what Beth invested in for a year!
That is when the perfect storm came in with Steve. kate wanted all the money from the book and used Jon in the process. He was too busy taking care of the kids. And alone time with Steve. First class all the way. Why deal with Beth hanging around possibly catching her and Steve together fooling around? Get rid of her!
It must get tougher every day for kate to be able to drag around those big bowling balls around every day. Instead of her nose like Pinocchio, they get bigger every time she lies and messes someone over!
Great post, Admin! Perfect timing for a great post!
Wow, spend a day on the road moving a van full of boxes to your soon to be new home and look what you miss. Good for you, Beth, good for you.
Enough silence, the witch does not deserve it, you and your family were so generous. And Milo, STFU already.
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oh blow it out of ur drunk ass milo. Kate knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. Seek help moron
LOL. Love this tweet to Milo. Ok I'm just gonna say it. Please, please will anyone please find out who this Milo doofus is. I can't stand it anymore... the suspense is killing me. I've never seen anything like this. Her mission to defend such a horrible person/loser is mind-boggling. Well, actually I would not want Milo to suffer in any way if she was exposed because I think it is entirely possible that she would be vilified and so would her family. However, I just want to know if she is actually a person in the community and not a patient in some facility. I wonder if she ever wishes she had not come to Kate's defense given how many people have turned on Milo now......
Yay Beth (and Robert)!!!! We knew you would come through eventually.....and I respect that you took the high road for sooo long...
Since some of us are unable to read any current tweets while the glitch is going on, I for one appreciate some of the gems being brought over here.
Thanks, gals!
Now that TFW has said that Beth lied, it would be perfectly understandable for Beth to release any documentation that supports her claims. I hope she does--it is way past time for TFW to learn that you can't just make shit up.
Robert discussed this situation at length in the book. He wrote about TFW putting Jon's name on the book in an effort to cut Beth's take from 1/2 to 1/3, and how hurtful it was to Beth when TFW refused to allow her to go on the publicity tour. The bit of information Robert didn't include/know was that Beth actually did get her 50% she was owed. Good for Beth for corroborating Robert's reporting of what happened to cause the falling out with Kate.
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Oh shiitake mushroom!!! Dear sweet lovable Beth corroborated mean and hateful Robert. I thought it was Robert who first told us this "pack of lies."
Then here comes Beth more than a year later saying oh by the way that's all true. You can't make this stuff up. What round of drinks are we on? In any case, keep it flowing!
A comment about Milo, since she's getting nuttier by the day...
I've seen quite a few obsessed fans, but I can honestly say that I never encountered anyone who has gone off the deep end as Milo has. I'm sure that they are out there, but I never met one. I remember one fan who would drive thousands of miles to see "her" celebrity for two hours. She'd spend her last dime getting to a venue, often sleeping outside in all kinds of weather in order to be the first one inside when the doors were unlocked. She hoped that production would pity her and let her in the back entrance. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I'd often take some food for her because I knew she hadn't eaten during her trip, having used all of her money for gas. However, being nice to that person only encouraged her and she soon came down with expectations and entitlement issues.
That fan fit into the groupie category. However, Milo is an enigma. She's a married, 50-something adult woman with two teenagers. She's never met Kate. I don't know quite what to make of her behavior, her blind adoration and her lust for Kate. When I read Milo's tweets, I keep hearing the lyrics...
"You may be right
I may be crazy
But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for
It's too late to fight
It's too late to change me
You may be wrong for all I know
But you may be right"
Do "likes" attract? If Milo is a fruitcake, a lunatic, then does she see Kate as one also, or does she see Kate as the sane person that she longs to be, her alter ego, which is a second self, distinct from a person's original personality?
It really is a fascinating study into the psychological aspect of the fans.
Then here comes Beth more than a year later saying oh by the way that's all true. You can't make this stuff up. What round of drinks are we on? In any case, keep it flowing!
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I don't know, Admin, but if I wake up with a brutal headache, it's going to be all your fault for supplying us with your own personal stash!
Kate burned a lot of people obviously, but when a gracious and honest person like Beth, who's quietly kept to herself, finally opens up and tells her side of the story, we'd better get a comfortable seat in the theatre. This is going to be one hell of a show.
I was offline all day and came home to find out the great news
about Beth's comments. From what I know of her from the show,
this couldn't have been an easy decision. While many of us are
thinking, "Go, Beth - TFW has it comin'," I think her concern for
those children has been front and center for so long that she
may have some pangs of guilt with these revelations. That's
what it's like to be an adult - lots of gray areas. Only sheep
see everything in black and white.
We've run up quite a tab tonight, Admin - if Patricia Chow stops
by, I'll pay for her Rumspringa...
Wow. Won't it be great to see this here!
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 48s
@Kateplusmy8 @tiffwit19 U were young/inexperienced back then...so much was happening so fast. Everyone wanted a piece of U. Sharks came out!
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Woah! Does Milo read here I wonder - because she practically took the words out of Ex Nurse's mouth "naive, unschooled" = "young, inexperienced"? I'm thinking she most definitely reads here lol!
(Leslie)
I would love for Amber to write a follow-up on this story and include the youtube clip or the narrative of the clip when Kate was being interviewed for MB. The interviewer point blank asked Kate about the difficulty of the "author" of the book and Kate said that was easy. Wow! There is no mistaking that Kate took 100% ownership of authoring the book. That was a perfect time for Kate to say that Beth Carson authored the book but it was her story. What a liar she is.
And also in Amber's follow-up she needs to include the two tweets about how someone point blank asked Kate if she was still friends with Beth and she answered yes, that the public doesn't know about all the great friends she has (paraphasing). Wow, again, boldface lie. And then the other tweet about being asked if today if Beth was telling the truth and she answered "no".
Those are three lies of Kate's in black and white and on film that she lied about. In fact I am going to email Amber and ask her to write a follow-up about this. I wish others would do the same. Kate will not be able to wiggle out of this one.
Can I interject an off topic ?
Has anyone here ever known anyone who suffers from mesh or are you a victim of mesh injury yourself?
I need a friend(s) who understands what it is like. ,.but under gag so I have to be careful.
Thank you.
j4a
The scale of TFW's greed is astounding. We all knew she was greedy but to actually try to cheat a good friend is beyond dispicable.
When I read that Beth had spoken out my jaw dropped. Then I did a little happy dance. I suspect that a good person such a Beth appears to be must be having a hard time having all this dredged up and I suspect also that she is getting some nasty blowback from the usual crazies, so I wish her well and I wish her strength to withstand the inevitable nastiness. I for one am appreciative and would like to thank her for her honesty.
At some point the kids will also realize exactly why so many people were taken from their lives. So Bad Mom could feed her greed.
I wonder if TFW is feeling lonely and embattled on her Mine All Mine estate. I kinda hope so.
So thrilled at this turn of events and Kate's chickens are coming home to roost!
But I keep thinking what it must be like living with Kate now that the public is finding out these things and the realization is setting in that any hope of a celebrity career has likely vanished. Kate was a tyrant to live with even in good times. What will it be like for the kids now? I'm afraid Kate will take out her anger on the kids more than ever and may take to the bottle even more so. I hope responsible nannies and other household help will put the kids first and contact Jon and Children Services if abuse is seen.
I would love to see Milo and learn more of her story. She is as delusional as Kate. And wouldn't you love to read a tell all book written by Steve or his wife? Maybe the parting with Kate was not as innocent as claimed. If history tells us anything, the relationship whatever it was ended badly.
Wonder what Jamie is thinking of all of this? I'm sure the convo came up, I'm sure it was quite the playwrite pos was spewing. She had to had to have heard some type of demonizing Beth stories....Jamie seems street smart to me. A double cross of this scale wouldnt sit too well with her.
I forgot about pos hoping/praying that Beth would buy them a house! Whay a slimey ditch living slug! Ugh!! She makes my skin crawl-a defect of nature
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." (Matthew 6:34)
Kate should be worried about the trouble of today and tomorrow. Day by day, her evil decisions are being revealed to a wider audience.
She "earned" these troubles. I would think the stress is over-whelming. I would not want to wake up every morning and wonder which embarrassing fact about my life will become a ROL headline.
I am pretty sure -- yeah, not jealous.
Beth may be getting blowback from the sheeple, but I bet the locals either applaud her or, at this point, really don't care enough about Kate Gosselin to even pay attention to what Beth said in the ROL article.
As the old saying goes "Karma is a comin' and she don't play". Your Karma has arrived Katie Irene Gosselin.
How many times over the years did Beth's name come up here, and
we'd include her in the list of the "wreckage" of TFW's past, and
someone would pipe up, "C'mon, now, just because TFW doesn't
talk about Beth, we can't necessarily assume that they're not friends anymore." But we knew, didn't we?
There's nothing discreet or respectful or classy about anything involving TFW. There wasn't when she was "young/inexperienced"
(heifer, please), and there isn't now. We connected the dots, and
we were right. That's where that super-complicated "critical thinking" concept comes in. Preponderance of evidence. Judging future behavior by looking at past behavior. And the ever-popular, "It if
looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and grifts like a duck...it's probably a duck."
I wonder if Kreider has anything on Beth. If so, we should see it in the next couple of days.
I wonder if she has anything on Aunt Jodi or Uncle Kevin. If so, they may never speak. Look at how long it took her to skewer the other family member who spoke out.
I think it's time for the people of her locale to collectively contact ROL and get their venting done too.
Thing is, nobody is interested in protecting her any more.
Reminds me of John Cougar Mellancamp:
When the walls come tumblin' down
When the walls come crumblin' crumblin'
When the walls come tumblin' tumblin' down
PJ
New Radar story with Beth.
Ex Nurse said... 78
Now that TFW has said that Beth lied, it would be perfectly understandable for Beth to release any documentation that supports her claims. I hope she does--it is way past time for TFW to learn that you can't just make shit up.
August 4, 2014 at 10:11 PM
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I have mixed feelings about Beth engaging Kate, because I wonder what good can come from it.
Kate's cornered right now, and she is prone to striking out and making taking someone down her mission in life.
Kate has nowhere near the power of her fame and TLC, like she did when she refused to pay LaFair what a judge ordered her to pay- one can only imagine how that emboldened Kate. So, it 's possible she might not lash out and go on yet another on of her self-serving media tours, or attempt to sue the Carsons.
What would be nice is if Jon was complicit in the attempt to screw Beth out of her money and authorship, that he come forward and corroborate Beth's claim and apologize.
The sheeple will blame Jon. "He insisted his name went on the book!!! It's Jon's fault there is a rift between Kate and Beth!!"
Did Skeeve go on the Multiple Blessings Tour? If so, that may be why K didn't want Beth along. As well as wanting the attention to be "mine, all mine!"
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Yes. The tour was extensive and very successful. Lots and lots of travel with Steve.
Here's a clip from a book signing in CA- you can see Steve is there, and of course, no Beth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKPVDpF8I-s
This was all planned, carefully calculated and thought out on pos' part. How do you explain the deal/negotiation? The YEAR it took to write the book. The holing up in hotels? The contract? The 50/50 agreement?
And then?? After alllll BETH'S hard work is done she swoops in to freeze her out and take the credit? To feel that HER NAME AND HER NAME ONLY (Jon's was an afterthough jmo) should grace the cover? She is out of her effing mind. How she can feel that SHE did the hard work, how SHE can think she penned it?? It was her plan from the beginning. And how poetic that her "other" books did so so SO poorly compared to BETH'S.
Unless there is an iron clad trust fund, those kids will have nothing NOTHING when it comes time to collect. This latest confirmation is more proof positive that there is NOTHING SHE WILL NOT TAKE ABSOLUTE CREDIT FOR. For God's sake, someone else wrote the book! and she thinks SHE is the author! She IS the MONSTER MOM from all those headlines from long ago. The leaks to the tabs were ALL TRUE
It's pretty ironic with Kate's Twitter account. The fans are bringing more attention to the negative articles about her by asking her about them. Then, when she responds, it digs her hole deeper. Then there are the purchased bots that are spreading around the article links. Then of course, there are the haterz. If it wasn't for her Twitter account, she'd have a lot less bad publicity. Ha.
More Beth interview on Radar:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-former-bff-left-when-stopped-being-about-kids-turned-fame-money/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Beth essentially said what Kevin and Jodi discussed years ago- it became about the fame and money for Kate.
“I do know that Kate’s very, very intelligent, very driven, very focused, very stubborn — the word ‘never’ should never be used with Kate. Everything is possible, for the good or the bad,” Beth told Radar..."
Now that TFW has said that Beth lied, it would be perfectly understandable for Beth to release any documentation that supports her claims.
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A copy of that contract would be good.
I wonder if she ever had Beth sign an NDA. That would have been a real slap in the face to her best friend.
I would love for Jon to apologize to Beth for his part in that, like he did for Em Tanner. Who knows, maybe he already has.
Watch for a story about big, bad, ugly Jon. Coming stat to a tabloid near you! Defleck!!!!!
Unless there is an iron clad trust fund, those kids will have nothing NOTHING when it comes time to collect
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Interestingly, the Carson were appointed co-Trustees of the children's Trust fund.
I can't imagine that hasn't been dissolved for years now.
I really wonder if the reason Kate did not want Beth from traveling with her what she already had her eye in Steve.
And between hiding in the kitchen and bedroom, traveling and making schedules for other, long naps...she spent precious little time with her babies.
This women has NO SHAME. And milo, you are a lowlife.
OK, my money is on Kate taking to Twitter and telling people that we don't know the "real story", implying that somehow, Beth is the bad guy here.
Just a feeling...
Didn't Robert say the trust was changed from the Csrson's to Steve?
Didn't Robert post a copy of the Zondervan contract in his first book?
It's really sad Kate saw nothing wrong in dispensing with people and wrenching them from her children's lives. Didn't Joel ( or Aaden) call Beth his second Mommy? She went above and beyond when those tups were babies and stayed in their lives many years. Being their guardian was no small decision. One by one all the people the children had grown to love disappeared- did Kate lie to them as to why? Are they just finding out now? If they do watch their show they will see Beth, Bob, their kids, Jodi, Kevin, friends and cousins, helpers.Are Ashley and Carla gone too? All for money. Those kids' values are seriously going to be compromised- who to listen to, Mommy and her brainwashing, or the documentation of these people in their lives in the show and their memories?
I take great issue with this statement of Beth's:
“I think society has to take some responsibility because every person who tuned in and fed the fire , cannot turn around and now criticize her. You’re essentially patting her on the back, so who are you to turn around and say she’s gone too far?” she said"
Society has every right to criticize Kate's methods. You can't point to food and clothing being provided to kids while their mother uses them for the fame and money it takes to purchase those very things.
You can not fathom the lengths to which Kate Gosselin would have went to, the boundaries that she would cross, in order to keep the fame train going.
You can't begin to imagine the subterfuge and duplicity that would be perpetrated by Kate's cadre of enablers, all profiting hugely from her polarizing "celebrity".
No one could have predicted that this struggling suburban hausfrau would turn into a ruthless woman who subsists on salad and dalmation puppies.
Most of all, no one had any clue that she beat her kids and animals, until we read Kate's own words.
I appreciate Beth's Christianity, but please, spare me the old "cast the first stone" chestnut.
Stopping evil involves using the judgement that God gave us.
Beth says others have been approached to tell about what went on. They did not because of the kids. Well, they should have BECAUSE OF THE KIDS.
I take great issue with this statement of Beth's:
“I think society has to take some responsibility because every person who tuned in and fed the fire , cannot turn around and now criticize her. You’re essentially patting her on the back, so who are you to turn around and say she’s gone too far?” she said"
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Yes that immediately made me pause too. Beth's entitled to her opinion, but I'm sorry we were all turning into the show innocently, thinking we were just watching some cute kids and a frazzled mom and dad. Almost everyone has the same story, they tuned in because they thought they would enjoy the show. Nobody, or few people anyway, tuned in to "hate." It wasn't until they fell off the wagon and it was evident this was detrimental to the children did we realize our error and we started saying this is NOT right! I just don't buy that you're not allowed to have a problem with something if you watched. I mean if you haven't seen the show how can you comment on how bad it is? That's kind of circular logic there, Beth.
In any case I appreciate her speaking out and she's entitled to view things that way, but I sure disagree.
Beth says others have been approached to tell about what went on. They did not because of the kids. Well, they should have BECAUSE OF THE KIDS
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Agree TOTALLY! This is a cop-out in order absolve people of their in-actions. As the saying goes, if you see something, say something.
That's exactly what I've been saying for years and predicting for years, that people were reluctant to speak out because they didn't want to hurt the children by criticizing the parents they love. Not that that is a good reason not to say anything, but it was obviously a very real emotion to them.
Radar has another Beth article today. Everything she says corroborates Robert's book.
Kate really has some entitlement issues!
I wonder what Jamie thinks of all this, lol....Jamie said on one of the specials that she tells Kate 'she isn't Angelina Jolie'.
I am surprised that Jamie is still around.
jcb
And while Kate haters are quick to blame the mother for exploiting her children, Beth says society and fans of the show are partly to blame too.
“I think society has to take some responsibility because every person who tuned in and fed the fire , cannot turn around and now criticize her. You’re essentially patting her on the back, so who are you to turn around and say she’s gone too far?”
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I don't entirely agree with this.
Society? No. Kate's fans, yes. Particularly bedlamites such as Milo who continue to feed Kate's narcissistic supply q4h.
It became clear as a bell that there was something seriously wrong with the harridan early on. I'll take no responsibility for Kate's mental illness. TLC can step up and take their part of the blame though.
I think Beth at the end of the day still tries to see the glass half full in her Christian way. Kate is "intelligent"? Lol.
I think Kate's an idiot, but I do think she is shrewd and cunning and will do things nobody would ever do to get what she wants, take it farther than anyone else would. That's not intelligence, Beth. There's a difference.
And yes it's true, she wants what she wants for the good or the BAD. She is describing a narcissist.
That's exactly what I've been saying for years and predicting for years, that people were reluctant to speak out because they didn't want to hurt the children by criticizing the parents they love. Not that that is a good reason not to say anything, but it was obviously a very real emotion to them.
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I think Beth's, Jodi's and Ashley's love was/is very real- so real it was palpable watching them on the show.
Kate exploited their love and loyalty for years, which means she used her kids as a shield to protect her.
Hurt Kate, hurt the children?
Take food out of their mouths?
Hooboy, is there any local that doesn't know what happened to Dana Hoffman when she dared to challenge and question the Great Kate Gosselin?
Anyone who dares criticize Kate using her children for fame and fortune is discounted, because no one is perfect, and who are we to judge?
After the epic failure that was Kate's attempt to indoctrinate her twins into the sick game that is "setting the record straight" and disparaging their dad and live tv, I don't know how anyone can say "who am I to criticize- she has 8 kids!"
I really wonder if the reason Kate did not want Beth from traveling with her what she already had her eye in Steve.
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Beth went from her ticket to the high life, to the third wheel to that same high life.
She accomplished her high life goal. She "surpassed" Beth and had the fame, the fortune, the VIP trips around the country, and she had the bodyguard she was in love with.
It just proves she never cared or loved Beth. If she did, she would have been dying to have her BFF along on the tour, bodyguard or not. Beth must have just felt awful, like the past four years were a lie and a giant waste of time.
I think Beth at the end of the day still tries to see the glass half full in her Christian way. Kate is "intelligent"? Lol.
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Kate is ruthless and can display an incredible singular focus once she sets her sights on something.
But, Kate's singular focus comes at the expense of having to wear big blinders. She's a black and white thinker who lives in a gray world.
It's always a call to battle for people like Kate.
Tucker's Mom, I agree with yurost 100% and very well-said.
At the end of the book, RH thanks his 'inside sources" and also "BC, AT, JA,CT, MG, KK."
Could BC be Beth Carson? Since RH included these initials, I took a guess: Beth Carson, Ashley Turner, Jamie Ayers, Carla Turner, Mady Gosselin???, Kevin Kreider? Probably wrong about Mady, but that Black Christmas poem was quoted so...
To feel that HER NAME AND HER NAME ONLY (Jon's was an afterthough jmo) should grace the cover?
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Yes I doubt Jon really paid attention to a dispute between girlfriends, when do men ever, ind his apology is between himself and Beth not the public. Kate used Jon. Jon's name was just a convenient way to give HERSELF 100% She understood marital property back then at least! Not so much anymore.
Oh well we feel the book would be more marketable if it were written by Jon and me, the parents, not myself and my BFF.
Whatever, it was about the money. She realized the book was going to do well, maybe they did a test run or early reviews or something, and she got greedy. Suddenly giving up 50% of the hundreds of thousands it was about to bring in didn't sit right. Maybe she thought it was going to be really huge, bigger than it was, and couldn't imagine how she could be so dumb as to only be taking 50% of it. Boom, she hatches a plan to bring Jon in and oust Beth.
Only Beth was smart enough to get the deal in writing and Kate couldnt' get her way. And when Kate doesn't steamroll you, she tosses you in the garbage.
And yes it's true, she wants what she wants for the good or the BAD. She is describing a narcissist.
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Yes, but as you said, in as nice a way she can.
Kate has a certain intelligence, but it's not a curious, academic, learned, mastering type of intellect- in fact, I think Kate tunes out the world and anything that doesn't serve as a means to her ends.
I'm betting she still has never voted, not even locally, and that she never picks up a newspaper, unless she's in it.
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Red rover red rover, send Patricia over (here)!
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While you're at it Admin please red rover Amber over, too. lol!
I hope she gets an exclusive with Gina Neild now. I mean if she got Beth to talk...
Kate has a certain intelligence, but it's not a curious, academic, learned, mastering type of intellect- in fact, I think Kate tunes out the world and anything that doesn't serve as a means to her ends.
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She's a fox in that she is very cunning and manipulative. She knows how to trap the rabbit, torture it, and eat it piece by piece. I just don't think intelligence is the right word for that. She is the type of person who is willing to stay in a contract negotiation for two weeks to make sure that she gets her bodyguard, her imported spring water from Iceland and her own double wide star wagon. When most people would just give up and say ok fine I guess I don't have to do that. That's more like perseverance and no shame, not intelligence. But I can see how Beth is like man she was smart to get all that stuff. No Beth.
My narcissist is dumb as bricks. Watching her help the kids with homework was painful. Like four times three is ten painful. Like oh please just let me help them painful. But they're cunning, shrewd, and extremely driven, don't take no for an answer and have very little shame, and thus have seen many bonafide successes. I think people confuse success with intelligence. They are not necessarily related. Did they ever pick up anything deeper than US Weekly, absolutely not. Can they talk about the issues of the day around the dinner table, nope. They can talk about themselves, their projects, and their ideas for future projects. That's about it.
. We connected the dots, and
we were right. That's where that super-complicated "critical thinking" concept comes in
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Yes were right, again.
It was a look, walk and talk like a duck situation.
Intuition, critical thinking skills, and recognizing patterns are what led me to believe without a shadow of a doubt these ladies were estranged. Even when Kate claimed otherwise.
It IS critical thinking, being able to step outside the PR spin and see things for what they really are. Why the sheeple can't do this I don't know, but my best guess is that they're just not that bright. Kate's only hope is to have fans as dumb as they are. Nobody else buys what she's selling.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 69
I know, I know,. I've had too much of admin's rumspringa. Time to say goodnight, Fleecing.
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"Goodnight, Fleecing." And thanks a lot for putting those very disturbing images in my head! Ewwww! Bad Fleecing. Bad, bad Fleecing!
It'll be tricky for the fans to attack Beth, when she's actually said so
many complimentary things about TFW. "Oh, she's a horrible,
selfish, evil person - except she's an excellent judge of character!"
I wonder if Beth's comment about "society" is a veiled reference to the media that bathed Kate Gosselin in starlight for the longest time, but are flaming her now.
Case in point, ROL.
It'll be tricky for the fans to attack Beth, when she's actually said so
many complimentary things about TFW. "Oh, she's a horrible,
selfish, evil person - except she's an excellent judge of character!"
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You know who IS intelligent? Beth.
She threw in some compliments about Kate too. Pointed out her strong suits, and held viewers' feet to the fire. It makes her overall story much more credible, since she's shown she can think critically about the entire situation and doesn't have a need to trash every single aspect of what happened just because she can't stand Kate anymore.
I may not agree with her opinions but I respect her for seeing the situation objectively.
Wow! I am so impressed Amber got an interview with Beth! There is the old patented TFMJG action, that if anyone dares to disagree with her, they are exiled from her life! What TFMJG has not realized is that the action hurts herself AND HER CHILDREN worse than the person she exiled. Add Beth to the confirmed list of Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin, Jon, long list of not-a-nannies, more!
The Karma Chameleon song is perfect for this situation!
And, just like TFMJG disposed of friends and family and employees like a used Kleenex, now TLC and Laverne and Shirley and more have disposed of TFMJG with the same care and regard they would dispose of a used tampon.
I think "society" deserves a break when it comes to tuning into the gosselin clusterf---k. Seriously, that kind of brazen manipulation and lying was unprecedented. It was on no one's radar that a woman would intentionally get pregnant with multiples and then use her own flesh and blood to benefit herself. Who does that? Who even thinks of that? We saw behaviors that didn't seen right, but it didn't cross our minds that a mother could care so little about the well-being of her children and their adored father. That she would use them so SHE could have attention and money. Whaaaat? That someone who professed her love and exhausting never ending sacrifice and hard work for them was LYING. Not just lying, completely fabricating her interactions with them because it appears that her idea of being a mom involves the abuse, neglect, resentment and avoidance of her kids...that she had on purpose....so she could get freebies and a tv show...and then mistreat the kids....and then lies about how much she does for them...but she is merely paying room and board for them...with their money....that they earned because they are sextuplets...that happened because she ordered fertility drugs by mail.... Do you see how crazy this is? It's not that the public is stupid or thought things were cool. It's that no one could believe anyone could be this evil and crazy.
I think "society" deserves a break when it comes to tuning into the gosselin clusterf---k. Seriously, that kind of brazen manipulation and lying was unprecedented.
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Exactly. We didn't know! We were innocent and completely sincere.
And when we DID finally get a clue, we jumped up and down and shouted at the top of our lungs: "This is wrong!" We STILL do that. Many people even worked on legislation to try to stop it.
I mean it's really off base to say because you once thought eight babies were cute you have no right to change your opinion. Way off base, Beth. She changed HER opinion, did she not? Seems kind of hypocritical since she was their biggest supporter now SHE's criticizing too!
Wow, I've been busy lately, and look what I missed! I suppose ROL contacted Beth and let her know they were doing a story about the portion of Robert's book that involves her---and she finally spoke out. The story was going to be reported anyway, so Beth made sure the truth was told. I give her a lot of credit for being quiet all these years. She waited until she needed to speak, and then set the record straight. Good for her.
I also rmember the tweets from a couple years ago, where TFW tried to claim that she and Beth were still friends. Anyone else rememeber the one where she was asked if she still sees Beth and she said yes, she had jsut seen her at a school function? Of course, that has the classic Kate-spin on it. Yes, she may have seen Beth, but that doesn't mean they were still friends, or that they even acknowledged each other at the function.
Kate always wanted everything Beth had. The big house, the pool, sports car, private schools for the kids. She got it, but at what price? She sold her soul.
Back in the day, I went to a book signing for MB. Lines were long, it was hurry up, have your book opened to this page, hand it to her so that she was looking at the page to sign without having to turn it around, take your book and exit quickly. Those were Kate's rules. Steve was there, no Beth. Steve was standing just to her left, behind her with that stern look of his, arms crossed. Never saw a smile from either of them. It was slam, bam, you're done, move on out. I had already begun to dislike her and just wanted to see how she behaved. After that, I knew who she was and that was it for me.
Tucker's Mom said... 109
I take great issue with this statement of Beth's:
“I think society has to take some responsibility because every person who tuned in and fed the fire , cannot turn around and now criticize her. You’re essentially patting her on the back, so who are you to turn around and say she’s gone too far?” she said"
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I agree, what's up with that? I think Beth was grasping at straws, trying to find some kind of sugar coating for her other remarks.
That statement makes no sense. People tuned in to a show about adorable twins, sextuplets and their cute, frazzled parents. When it turned into a show about a mansion, vacation after luxury vacation, then finally a divorce, people were done. That would have been the end of it, no one was patting Kate on the back and clamoring to see her go on more vacations. Kate is the one who continued to scratch and claw to keep herself in the public eye by any means possible. So no Beth, your statement has no merit. Kate fed the fire by refusing to exit stage left and accept that she had nothing further to offer to the entertainment world.
It just proves she never cared or loved Beth. If she did, she would have been dying to have her BFF along on the tour, bodyguard or not. Beth must have just felt awful, like the past four years were a lie and a giant waste of time.
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I think a lot of immature young ladies are prone to dropping their bff's when they're smitten- I know I sacrificed time with friends to be with my boyfriend(s) back in the day, especially when I was particularly smitten.
It's like the outside world ceases to exist.
That said, I wasn't 30+ and married with 8 kids! More like late teens/early 20's.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 116
I think Beth at the end of the day still tries to see the glass half full in her Christian way. Kate is "intelligent"? Lol.
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Beth wrote extensive missives in defense of Kate- she thought Kate was walking on water!
My point is that Beth really put herself out there and took up for Kate, as have so, so many.
RH tells of a time he was in the grocery store with both Kate and Beth coincidentally there in the same aisle. He says it was very tense and neither acknowledged the other. So I doubt they even greet one another at school functions. Sad for the girls, the twins and Beth's daughter who also must be very confused. Kate has hurt other kids besides her own- the friends and cousins of the 'old group.' Would Kate tell the twins not to talk to Taliah if they see her at school?
It is funny how things have unfolded over the years. All the years that I've followed this blog (although I don't post nearly as much as I used to) and other "anti-Kate Blogs" we have heard and read the speculation and rumors about her behavior only to have the facts come out years later proving the speculation and rumors were true (well, except for the yogurt story-that one was proven to be false). Anyway, my point is, all these years those of us who could see the forest despite the trees, knew what Kate was really like, a greedy, gold digging, selfish shrew. And slowly, but surely the truth began to emerge from various credible sources (Robert, Beth even Jon when he was on Couples Therapy).
I'm glad Beth spoke out, but I feel like we already figured out what had happened, but Beth confirmed it.
I feel bad for Beth. Kate really took advantage of her and her husband's generosity and kind nature. But in the end, Kate once again looks bad because of the lousy way she treated 2 very good people who only wanted to help another couple in need.
Maybe she thought it was going to be really huge, bigger than it was, and couldn't imagine how she could be so dumb as to only be taking 50% of it. Boom, she hatches a plan to bring Jon in and oust Beth.
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Probably about the time the lawyer pushed back against the $80,000 advance (non-refundable) and got Kate and Beth a whopping $100,000 advance.
Maybe she thought it was going to be really huge, bigger than it was, and couldn't imagine how she could be so dumb as to only be taking 50% of it. Boom, she hatches a plan to bring Jon in and oust Beth.
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Probably about the time the lawyer pushed back against the $80,000 advance (non-refundable) and got Kate and Beth a whopping $100,000 advance.
I forgot about the increase in the book advance.
Something happened. Some kind of test run or other test or prediction gave them an indication it was going to do better than expected. That's when things changed and suddenly Beth was out, even though she did all the work. Maybe Kate initially thought it would pull in 10,000 not 100,000. Suddenly she saw dollar signs.
13 year olds drop and pick up BFFs just like that. Not 33 year old "mature" women. At that age, it should be an unusual situation that you are dropping a true BFF.
Despite her waffle-like comments, Beth speaking out is one of the most important events of this entire saga.
Kate tried to steal Beth's previously agreed upon 50% share of the book procceds. There's no other way to say it except to call it like it is, theft. Beth confirming this is just one more person confirming what a sick, evil and morally bankrupt person Kate is.
Even in the infancy of the show, when the show was just starting to take off, Kate thought she was a bigger star than Martha Stewart. They went on her show and Kate not only refused to get her picture taken with Martha, she refused to stand near her! Kate, in her mentally ill mind, had convinced herself that her pharmaceutically manipulated uterus made her more important and more famous than Martha and her distinguished 30 year career. So one can only imagine how horribly Kate treated Paula Deen at the taping of their talk show pilot. Rene Syler was there and stated that what she saw left her speechless, referring to Kate's behavior. The project was killed that very day. Kate has been given so many opportunitues and she blew them all by trying to insist she be treated like a 3 time Oscar winning actress. Kate was the only contestant during DWTS who issued an edit that no one look her in the eye. Kate was the only one on CA with a constant bodyguard. She was one of the least famous people there. Even when Donald Trump threw that washed up hasbeen a job, she still had to galavant around like she was the most important person there.
It's time for her 6 fans to realize that Kate is despised and unemployed because of Kate and Kate's behavior. She needs mental help, not platitudes for narcissists. How much more proof do they need?
I agree with others who have seen nothing that shows Kate to be intelligent in the least. On the contrary, I think she is pathetically vapid, and ignorant about everything not starting with "I" or "my" or "me" or "mine." What makes that even worse, is that she has a superiority complex, and believes herself to be extremely intelligent.
What I do see in her is a laser-focused drive to achieve any goal that benefits her, especially in creating wealth and fame. Unfortunately, that drive is fueled by subterfuge and dishonesty, a complete lack of empathy and conscious, and a willingness/eagerness to take advantage of others. She has shown no capacity to appreciate all that has been done for her, or to be grateful for everything she has. She truly is a pathetic, sorry little woman, who will, no doubt, find herself completely alone one day.
The Empress is a Clown said... 128
I wonder if Beth's comment about "society" is a veiled reference to the media that bathed Kate Gosselin in starlight for the longest time, but are flaming her now.
Case in point, ROL.
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That may be, and it makes more sense. People at large have been overwhelmingly fatigued by all things Gosselin.
Kate and her team made hay while the sun was shining, and by sunshine, I mean, her divorce.
Everything about that massive PR campaign was manipulated to make Kate into some sort of Madonna.
Case in point, look at the brouhaha created over Kate's fricking wedding rings!
Is Kate wearing her rings?
Oh! The ring is off!
No, wait! The ring is on!
When will Kate take those rings off permanently??
Who cares about world matters! I want to know if Kate's wearing those rings while she fills up her car and pretends to ignore her personal pap who she called for a photo op?
Good grief!
Beth didn't need the money, but she deserved recognition and the chance to promote HER writing. Maybe she added that part to her statement about fans fueling the fire and not having justification to criticize Kate now to explain her own false impression of Kate as a friend and a good mother.She must feel so betrayed and angry, but she did remain silent all this time.I think I'd be up in arms if it happened to me! If she had proof of abuse I would think she either revealed it to the correct source or she really did not have access to the journals- she didn't see Kate in action at home since they worked on the book in a hotel. She also had the kids stay at her house since it was so big when she watched them for Kate for a week at a time. However even on episodes she was in, Kate had the potties in HER driveway for filming, for example, and she saw her other behaviors to Jon and the kids. Idk.
@tucker 109, circling the drain @131 & admin @132
YES!YES!!
I'm so glad at long last Beth Carson's voice is being heard. What a pity the book wasn't published as Jon and Kate Gosselin's story AS TOLD TO BETH CARSON (even though Jon doesn't seem to have had any input). As the author, Beth should have been included in the promotional tour which is customary. At the time I can understand the big draw was the sainted mother herself, but Beth Carson was the author, the composer of the work, the one who did the heavy lifting. I am just so happy for her that finally she will get recognition as such.
bm
Mqgjd7 @magjd7 3h
@Sassccha @ConcernedChick makes me wonder when the sheep will figure out that EVERYONE else can't be lying..
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I like this tweet.
Kate is taking a real beating for her "no" tweet and Milo backing her up saying she was young and inexperienced. They're going to town on Kate and Milo and it's not all the regular haters.
There are many reasonable comments from people saying well Beth always seemed nice to me.
DUH, of course Beth is the one telling the truth here. You got it!
I feel bad for Beth. Kate really took advantage of her and her husband's generosity and kind nature.
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I think Beth's Evangelical beliefs led her to feel that she was called to help Kate and her kids.
Beth and Bob are apparently affluent, and seemed to want to take Jon and Kate under their wing, and share their families, beliefs, home and even money with them.
Bob offered Jon a job and Kate even speculated that Bob and Beth were considering buying them a house and having J+K pay them back.
Seriously a bad idea- horrible, really, but I think the Carson's might have been sucked in that badly.
My sense from reading Kate's account is that, once again, who is she to turn down free stuff, when after all, it makes people happy to give her family free shit.
She even talks about "letting" Bob pick up dining tabs because she new it brought him joy.
Such the altruist, that one.
Beth also credits her husband for advising her to proceed with caution. He probably saw that some of Kate's cracks were showing even back then. The Carsons were already footing the bill for the meals when they dined out with the Gosselins. According to Kate she let them pay because it made them feel better. Yeah, right.
I'm sure Bob saw the little red flags going up before Beth did.
Cliche but true for Kate - you cannot fool all the people all the time.
@tucker 145
I've said before the spins that were going on reminded me of a Scandal episode
Poor Emily's upset that people aren't being nice to Mamma G.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 1h
Could we go 1 day where we only spread positivity&give @Kateplusmy8 the credit she deserves. She's one of the strongest women I know. 💖
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 1h
Wanted to start the morning off on a good note...I suggest everyone give it a try!We should be building @Kateplusmy8 up not bringng her down
Kate is getting the credit she deserves. Unfortunately, for her it's not good credit.
Multiple Blessings was published in October 2008. The marriage was already in trouble way before then, so I doubt if Jon would have conspired with Kate in getting his name on the book. IMO, that was all Kate's doing. Just another way she used Jon for her own gain.
I remember Bob Carson did not like to be shown on film. He was obviously a savvy business person. Maybe Beth encouraged him to offer Jon that job. He was generous but wise to tread carefully in mixing business with friends.I wonder if Jodi and Kevin will have more to say or other duped old friends and relatives.
What we have been saying all along. Love this.
Strong Women @twomencandoall · Aug 3
You aren't wealthy until you have something money can't buy.
They're going to town on Kate and Milo and it's not all the regular haters.
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I wonder what time Milo's going to pipe up and say TFW deserved all the money from the book sales. Bob and Beth were already financially secure and therefore didn't need it, blah blah blah.
This is going to be tricky. Her Katie dearest is a contract honorer after all.
Better get to it, Gladys. You've got your work cut out for you today.
Vanessa said... 152
@tucker 145
I've said before the spins that were going on reminded me of a Scandal episode
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With Kate Coyne as Olivia Pope- in manipulation only, not looks and style!
To wit:
"We Might Split Up" (uh, the marriage was over for years)
"Will Her Kids Be OK?" ("her" kids? Seriously?)
"Kate Strikes Back!"
"I'm Starting Over"
"Why Can't A Mom Have Fun?"
"My New Body" (the surgically enhanced one? mmk)
"Life After Reality TV"
"Their Lives Now"
"Real Life With Our Mom"
Ahem, so while I admire Beth for all she's done, I strongly disagree with her casting aspersions on society in general, when clearly, Kate and her camp have manipulated every talking point of this saga for years.
We as a society did not cause Kate to have HOM's, and we sure as hell did not orchestrate Kate's insertion into the American (and beyond) zeitgeist.
Frankly, me dear, that's WAY above our pay grade...
If there ever was a time for a family intervention, this is IT. (or, in Kate's words 'this is your last redemption!")
The teflon coating is OFF. The stories will continue to come out; Kate is "RUINED!"
I am still stunned that Beth finally went on record about why she left. Who's next? Robert's book served as a catalyst!
Good job, Robert!
anyone have a guess as to what Kate's doing today??
jcb
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 1h
Wanted to start the morning off on a good note.
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Emily, you poor misguided and obviously shielded child woman, any day when sunshine hits truth is a good day.
A good, loving, generous and kind woman was hurt by your silly girl crush, on many levels, including emotionally and financially, yet you want to take up sides with the woman who sought to rob her of $50,000.
Just mull that over for a bit and see if it makes sense.
I wonder what time Milo's going to pipe up and say TFW deserved all the money from the book sales. Bob and Beth were already financially secure and therefore didn't need it, blah blah blah.
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AuntieAnn---you called it!!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m
Interesting fact: "For ghostwriting a book, new ghostwriters with no books under their belt typically charge $7,000 - $9,000 @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m
@Kateplusmy8 Just odd 2me. Beth had plenty of $$..yet obviously wanted big chunk of the bk..she wasn't a writer..no experience, yet got 50%?
Kate truely is what Jon said: Kate is an asshole! She is the ultra, self server, selfish, greedy, money grubber, child user, husband user, friend user, family user, all around user, bitch!! Kate was jellus of Beth, that is what it all comes down to. Beth could handle her kids, & G8 kids, and did not complain, Kate can't even handle one kid, without help. Beth lived in a big house, and was financially sound, Kate did not know how to handle money, then or now. Beth has a good marriage, Kate is divorced. Beth talks to her family, Kate doesn't. I could go on. Bottom line Kate is the only one who is jealous of everyone. Everything has to be hers, house, cars, kids, she has this master plan for the way she wants to live, and no one is going to get in her way. Kate saw that book as her story not Beths, so in her selfish twisted mind, all proceeds, belong to her. Beths was just the writer, a friend, more employee to her, if Beth signed a CA, then Kate views her as an employee, therefore she is not entitled to be on the book or get credit. How many times did Kate take the kids to Beth's house, for Beth to watch? Kate said it, in that interview: when asked about what kind of guy, she is looking for: Kate: if he comes to the house he is expected to work, Kate treats people like servants, slaves, employees, not as family, friends, or guests. then she wonder why people leave.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m
U know me @Kateplusmy8 If I was already wealthy...was asked2 help write a bk aka ghost writer...I'd do it 4free as a gift of friendship!
Milo's on her bash Beth tweet tour.
Last night after reading the ROL Beth interview I went back to Julie's old blog. Julie is Aunt Jodi's sister. I was re-reading what Julie said in 2008 about what was really going on. Not what was presented to the public. And gosh darn, those things Julie talked about six years ago are being revealed as being true today.
In 2008 the cracks were showing but it was hard to believe that Kate could be so manipulative and cunning just to make money. Kate had TLC behind at the time so no matter what truth came out in 2008 the general public wasn't buying it. No mother could intentionally make babies and then exploit them. It's just not how society believes a mother would do. And yet, that's exactly what Kate did.
It's an interesting read. Knowing what we know today vs. what Julie tried to tell us so long ago.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Just odd 2me. Beth had plenty of $$..yet obviously wanted big chunk of the bk..she wasn't a writer..no experience, yet got 50%?
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Oh, OK Beth does ALL the work but should not get paid. In fact it has always struck me as odd that people can claim to have written a book when they haven't. There should be no such thing as a ghostwriter IMO. Good grief, Teresa from Real Housewives of NJ can barely put a sentence together and claims to have written books. Same with that Farrah chick who was on CR with Jon. GMAB
Milo, obviously the deal they brokered was not for Beth to "ghostwrite" the book because Beth won the battle to have her name on it. It was a deal to write the book together. If anything, TFW shouldn't have gotten as much as she did since she didn't do any writin'
AuntieAnn said... 157
They're going to town on Kate and Milo and it's not all the regular haters.
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I wonder what time Milo's going to pipe up and say TFW deserved all the money from the book sales. Bob and Beth were already financially secure and therefore didn't need it, blah blah blah.
This is going to be tricky. Her Katie dearest is a contract honorer after all.
Better get to it, Gladys. You've got your work cut out for you today.
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She just did hahahaha!!!!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 149
Mqgjd7 @magjd7 3h
@Sassccha @ConcernedChick makes me wonder when the sheep will figure out that EVERYONE else can't be lying..
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I like this tweet.
Kate is taking a real beating for her "no" tweet and Milo backing her up saying she was young and inexperienced. They're going to town on Kate and Milo and it's not all the regular haters.
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Yeah lol.... this particular conundrum is not covered in the sheeple handbook. The usual go-to excuses do not apply. Jellus? No. Beth is happily married and quite wealthy.
She was trying to ride Kate's coattails and get a piece of Kate's pie? No. Again, Beth and her husband are well off. Beth had been one of the original volunteers when the Gosselin sextuplets started coming home from the hospital. Beth first knocked on their door when the Gosselins were in dire straights. Coincidence that Kate kicked every other volunteer to the curb except for the two who did her laundry and wealthy Beth? No. Two knew how to help her and the other could buy her stuff and pay for the twins to start private school.
Kate was young and inexperienced? No. Kate was 33 when the book was published, the appropriate procedure for co-writing a book was put in place, and a contract negotiated.
Beth is lying? Why now? What purpose would it serve for her to come out now and make up a lie? The only person who is repeatedly proven to be a liar is Kate. I've lost count of how many lies she's been caught in.
Trying to cash in and pay rent by selling a story to Radar? See above.
Give it up sheeple.
who called this! lol
Gladys just tweeted this:
U know me @Kateplusmy8 If I was already wealthy...was asked2 help write a bk aka ghost writer...I'd do it 4free as a gift of friendship!
jcb
Kate is a twit said... 161
AuntieAnn---you called it!!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m
Interesting fact: "For ghostwriting a book, new ghostwriters with no books under their belt typically charge $7,000 - $9,000 @Kateplusmy8
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haha! BAM!!
Kate is a twit said... 163
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m
U know me @Kateplusmy8 If I was already wealthy...was asked2 help write a bk aka ghost writer...I'd do it 4free as a gift of friendship!
Milo's on her bash Beth tweet tour.
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Ugh. Milo, that wasn't the agreement. Kate should have been right up front with Beth and said, "Beth, you are already rich so will you write the book for free and only put my name on it?" Not enter into a 50-50contract and then try to scam Beth out of it after the book went to print. Kate tried to change the agreed upon terms AFTER the book was at the printer. What kind of friend does that make Kate?
Formerly Duped said... 155
I wonder if Jodi and Kevin will have more to say or other duped old friends and relatives.
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I think we can count on a lot more people spilling it. Poor Shmoops, here she thought she'd done such a good job of discarding those who were no longer useful to her.
But now looks what's playing... [cue echo]
"The Return of the Swiffered"
Second feature:
"Revenge of the Swiffered"
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 24m
@Kateplusmy8 Just odd 2me. Beth had plenty of $$..yet obviously wanted big chunk of the bk..she wasn't a writer..no experience, yet got 50%?
What does Beth's inexperience as a writer have to do with anything? Kate didn't have any experience either. It was a joint venture and both should have been paid equal shares.
It's just another case of "shoot the messenger". Milo is just like Kate--nobody should make any money off of Kate and her kids except for Kate.
Maybe Milo should write TLC and tell them they had no right to make any money from the shows, because Kate and the kids were doing all the work.
To add to my previous post, Milo should also write to Donald Trump, who is already wealthy, because both he and NBC will be making money from having Kate on CA.
Her reasoning is so over the top. She really should just shut up because she's making both herself and Kate look incredibly stupid.
I'd sure be interested to know just exactly what did TFW do to try "very VERY hard" not to honor that contract. Specifically, what did that entail?
By Gladys' logic, TFW shouldn't have taken any salary for doing
that last TLC special. She's already got "plenty of $$!" She
should've let the "crew daddies" split her share of the salary,
"as a gift of friendship!"
HOW many more times can this woman be caught red handed a-lyin', a-beatin', a-scammin', a-terrorizin', before the remaining 5 sheeple get it? And Milo just HAS to be a paid sycophant, there is just no other explanation for it at this point.
Katie, fall on your sword NOW. Step forward and admit you are incredibly mentally ill and get thee into a nice quiet residential treatment center and STFU for a year. Then come back and spin some nice-nices about therapy, redemption, and medications, BEFORE the twins hit 18 years old and start speaking about the screaming, threatening, beatings, vulgarities, pushing faces into dog poo, etc. And your lies, lies, lies, lies, lies.
Kate, remember a mere 4 1/2 years ago? Let's say around New Year's of 2010... doesnt seem so long ago does it? Well, you only have that short 4 1/2 years from today to get your mental health together before your twins can hit the PUBLISH buttons all on their own. Or maybe they have learned a different lesson from you: "Can we sue?"
Kate, are you listening? Time's a-wastin'!
Tucker's Mom: I love your posts! You are a very good writer- ever thought of writing a column/article about all of this a la Sue Buddy?
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Well, Kate is now wealthy. Does Milo think she should do things free for others? Wonder if she likes her 'cameo' in RH's book, lol.
From today's radaronline interview:
“My interest from day one, and I think it’s hard for money–minded people to believe this, was seeing that the kids got the care they needed,” she said. “Once it stopped being about the kids, and turned to fame and money , I was out. I really truly just wanted the kids to have what they needed. It was a really easy decision for me once it stopped being about the kids to say, ‘I’m out.'
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This is the statement of a person with deep-rooted values, who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. Beth has a moral compass--that is why it was an easy decision for her to walk away. She was there for the children, and when she saw that it was no longer about them, she was out, and never looked back. By contrast, TFW is a slimy, double-talking snake oil salesman, who says what is convenient, then does what she wants. What is so confusing about narcissists, is that their actions so often don't match their words. They are like aliens who have picked up the superficial characteristics, but the emotional commitment is missing. If you have never experienced it, it is difficult to pinpoint. Especially when there are 8 young lives at stake. Once you understand the disorder, you can spot it a mile away, and hopefully will run the other way.
I thought Milo (or her husband) owned a small business? How can she not 'get' how business deals work? And I just loved it when she tweeted if she had lots of $$, she'd do things for free. Yeah, right. Beth has children, Beth took time away from her family to take care of the 8 and took time away from her family to help pen a book. Isn't her time worth $$?
Milo...the titanic is going down, stop trying to bail the water out with a Dixie cup. It won't work.
Here is a great gadget I found to share.
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Perhaps, just perhaps, Beth has been mulling over this move since Robert took her to task?
Like so many others, perhaps Beth thought that accusing Kate of child abuse would send babies to scattered foster homes and no one wanted that. She does allude in her statement that she kept quiet for the sake of the kids. Perhaps now with Jon's situation a bit settled and the Kween's Krown kompletely krashed on the karpet, Beth thought it was safe for HER to start speaking? I doubt this is the last we will hear from Beth.
Milo's spin on everything is so Kate-centric and the logic is so twisted that I suspect yet again that Milo is Kate.
Kate is a twit said... 173
What does Beth's inexperience as a writer have to do with anything? Kate didn't have any experience either. It was a joint venture and both should have been paid equal shares.
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Not only that but it was a quite a few weekend getaways from her kids which were probably financed by Beth and Bob, too.
IIRC, did we not read that Kate lounged around the hotel every weekend and let Beth do all work?
That shrew is relentlessly unscrupulous.
Hey Emily, we do not need to "build up" bad people. Go hang out at the Mommy blogs where they tend to do that nonsense.
Auntie Ann exactly, wait for that excuse.
Because if you're wealthy you don't deserve to be paid fairly for your work because after all you don't really "need" it. Once you reach six figures you should just do straight volunteerism.
Oh sheeple.
Formerly Duped said... 178
Tucker's Mom: I love your posts! You are a very good writer- ever thought of writing a column/article about all of this a la Sue Buddy?
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Well, Kate is now wealthy. Does Milo think she should do things free for others? Wonder if she likes her 'cameo' in RH's book, lol.
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Sorry I missed this comment!
Sue Buddy, Auntie Anne and so many here just crack me up every day- I learn so much, so thanks for mentioning that you like my comments.
Oh, Milo, predicting your comments is like shootin' fish in a barrel.
Next!
But Milo, she wasn't a ghostwriter her name was actually on it, and besides it's irrelevant what you think the deal should have been. The fact is they agreed to 50% and it was on Kate if she had an issue with that to do something about it before agreeing to it. A deal is a deal. It doesn't matter if Beth's cut was 90%, a deal is a deal. You don't get to come back later (except in rare cases that don't apply here whatsoever) and say oops I changed my mind.
Dwindle said... 183
Perhaps, just perhaps, Beth has been mulling over this move since Robert took her to task?
Like so many others, perhaps Beth thought that accusing Kate of child abuse would send babies to scattered foster homes and no one wanted that. She does allude in her statement that she kept quiet for the sake of the kids. Perhaps now with Jon's situation a bit settled and the Kween's Krown kompletely krashed on the karpet, Beth thought it was safe for HER to start speaking? I doubt this is the last we will hear from Beth.
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Maybe seeing others come out with their own personal experiences and observations made Beth rethink keeping silent- even when Robert attempted to get her on record.
That obviously frustrated him after getting to know the kids, and observe how their mother interacted with them.
Obviously, Beth has more to say, much more. The fact that she alluded to a conspiracy of silence was indeed telling.
Whether Beth will continue to speak out about how reality tv sausage is made remains to be seen.
You know what they say- if cattle processing plants were made of glass, no one would eat beef. Well, I think the process of filming kids for reality tv shows needs to be just as transparent.
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@Kateplusmy8 Just odd 2me. Beth had plenty of $$..yet obviously wanted big chunk of the bk..she wasn't a writer..no experience, yet got 50%?
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And how does Milo know what Beth's financial situation was at that point in time? Beth and Bob sold their big house right around that time. Perhaps there were financial setbacks. Not my business to find out, though, and certainly not Milo's!
Beth had a contract. How in the world did Kate expect to scam Beth out her cut? LOL...Kate said she was a "contract honorer".
Does anyone know how many copies of Multiple Blessings were sold? I can't imagine Beth could live the rest of her life on the residuals. She deserved her cut and I would say at least 75% should have gone to her. The 2nd book was just a child like picture book of the kids. No story, just pictures. I saw it at Dollar Tree a couple of years ago.
the Gosselin children do have an iron-clad trust fund set up by Jon. When he ventured on his own making personal appearances. Jon stated that it was setup so that Kate couldn't touch it. Then TLC pulled the rug out & gave the kids collectively 15% -- less than 2% each.
This is the statement of a person with deep-rooted values, who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. Beth has a moral compass--that is why it was an easy decision for her to walk away. She was there for the children, and when she saw that it was no longer about them, she was out, and never looked back.
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I think Beth might realize she helped to create the monster that is Katezilla.
But truly, I think Beth's intent was always meant to benefit the kids.
Beth wanted Kate to enjoy SAHMommyhood until the kids were all in school. She wanted Kate to be able to relax once in a while.
I'm sure Beth never envisioned that Kate would go to any lengths to stay on tv, and use her fame to spend time AWAY from home, instead of AT home, with her kids.
I think things just got to a level of crazy that Beth never could have predicted, at least, not from the version of Kate who presented early on.
I bet Beth wishes TFW would have hired a ghostwriter....
Ex Nurse said... 180
This is the statement of a person with deep-rooted values, who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. Beth has a moral compass--that is why it was an easy decision for her to walk away. She was there for the children, and when she saw that it was no longer about them, she was out, and never looked back. By contrast, TFW is a slimy, double-talking snake oil salesman, who says what is convenient, then does what she wants. What is so confusing about narcissists, is that their actions so often don't match their words. They are like aliens who have picked up the superficial characteristics, but the emotional commitment is missing. If you have never experienced it, it is difficult to pinpoint. Especially when there are 8 young lives at stake. Once you understand the disorder, you can spot it a mile away, and hopefully will run the other way.
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I completely disagree that Beth has some incredible moral compass. BETH made money off the Gosselin children. Lots of $. So her claim that it was never about $ rings very, very hollow. I['m not suggesting that she initially got involved with the thought that she could profit, but the bottom line is that she did NOT walk away before it became about $. The falling out seems to have been ABOUT $.
That does not in any way excuse Kate if things went down as Beth claims, as she should not have tried to renege on their agreement.
"But Milo, she wasn't a ghostwriter her name was actually on it, and besides it's irrelevant what you think the deal should have been." Admin, 186)
Yeah, Milo! If you could find out how much a ghost writer makes, push your research a little further and look up the difference between a ghost writers and authors of books in the "as told to" style. Think in the vein of, let's say, -oh, I don't know-, Diana:"Her True Story", by Andrew Morton...
Some contract honorer, that little girlcrush of yours...
Well, Kate is now wealthy. Does Milo think she should do things free for others? Wonder if she likes her 'cameo' in RH's book, lol.
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Well, of course. Kate shouldn't be paid for anything. Let her do commercials, promote products, do voice-overs, whatever for free. Let Milo keep talkin. She's going to show herself for the idiot that she is, if she hasn't done so already.
Milo understands the term "ghost writer" the way Kreider understands the term "biography".
PJ
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@Kateplusmy8 Just odd 2me. Beth had plenty of $$..yet obviously wanted big chunk of the bk..she wasn't a writer..no experience, yet got 50%?
I earn my living as writer, Milo, so I know too well how hard it can be and let me tell you something: the first time I wrote a piece that was published, I expected to be paid a full 100% of my contract deal... even if I had no previous experience. This is how business goes in the real world, outside the loony bin where you live.
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