Coming up, Dr. Jenn is so concerned about Teen Duck Lips she wants to shut the cameras off so she can really work her therapeutic magic. Cameras off? What the...! No! No fair! WTF! I'm instantly in a bad mood. How am I supposed to make fun of Teen Duck Lips with the cameras off? I demand a recount!
Dr. Jenn falls for whatever Teen Duck Lips said to her off camera (how convenient) and thinks she's had a horrific past. Naw, with this fine woman as her mother? Can't be.
Teen Duck Lips has certainly told horrific lies, I'll give her that. Wu-Tang lines up his wallpaper swatches so he can choose which one to spend his life with. Ha, look at Latrice, all decked out in a red cocktail dress and hair extensions like she's going to a slightly shady New Year's Eve party in the slightly shady part of downtown. It's just VH1, Latrice.
The music sounds like Super Mario Brothers 3 only played at half the speed. It's just minutes after Kelsey threw the apple juice in Wu-Tang's face. Wu-Tang goes after Kelsey and demands that she hug him. She keeps telling him to stop and to leave. This is so incredibly uncomfortable because it's edging toward domestic violence, which is not always about the bumps and bruises of Lifetime movies or your Duck Lips's lies, but about exerting your power over the other person and not listening when they say no back off. Kelsey is so upset she's considering leaving the show.
Oh thank God, Sada comes out to console Kelsey. I like her. Kelsey tells her the whole long sordid tale which starts and ends with Wu-Tang being a douchebag and includes him wanting to bring in the other woman he is seeing, Latrice, to see her and Kelsey in the same room so he can decide which girl he wants like you might look over the ice cream flavors at Baskin Robbins before committing.
Sada's reaction is like everyone else's: "What the f*&k???" That's correct, what the f*&k.
This is why Sada is such an awesome and intelligent person. Because she says great stuff like this: "I know you don't want to lose him, but you don't have him anyway."
Ex-aaaaactly! So lose him, because he's already lost. You can't lose someone you already lost, Kelsey. Or, never had to begin with, given he was with Latrice first.
Kelsey sits down with Dr. Mike.
No, not that Dr. Mike, although I bet she'd have good advice for her too, like tear up your contract and leave him for heaven sake, we'll help. Couples Therapy's Dr. Mike is some other doc they've never really explained much about, but I've gathered he is some sort of assistant to Dr. Jenn who maybe goes on duty when Dr. Jenn is getting her collagen injections? He's sort of cute in a John Leguizamo kind of way.
Kelsey is just realizing that the life she thought she was living with Wu-Tang was a lie, and that must be an awful feeling. She admits that deep down she kind of knew Wu-Tang was living a rapper lifestyle where this could happen. She's still really in love with him though. Dr. Mike gives good advice in that either Wu-Tang is going to have to commit to her or Kelsey is going to have to leave him, there's no in between.
Dr. Mike seems to be choking up a tiny bit. I think these people truly like Kelsey and care deeply that she is being so hurt by this.
Wu-Tang is such an ass. The situation is "bugged out" he remarks profoundly. He says it in the passive tense like that, not that he made a bugged out situation but rather the situation itself just showed up kind of buggy, unannounced. Gah, pass the apple juice he obviously is not wet enough in my estimation.
Coming up, Duck Lips's fiancé says when Teen Duck Lips opens her mouth it's like puke just comes out. Ha, never heard it put quite like that, but totally. And cue the voiceless crying. Looks so freaking good, can't wait!
Day 10, and Kelsey is feeling like crap about the situation but doesn't know how she can just erase the love she has for Wu-Tang. But Kelsey, you were loving something that was just proven to you doesn't exist. Erase it Kelsey, here's a pencil.
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Teen Duck Lips confronts Whitney in the kitchen, demanding to know what everyone was up to last night. Whitney's like uhh, we were playing checkers and reading? Checkers and reading, how sophisticated, Teen Duck Lips says snottily. Is she being sarcastic? It's actually hard to tell. Well, what are your hobbies, Teen Duck Lips? So far I can only come up with three: lying, whining, and eating chopped salads. It's not like Teen Duck Lips prefers to spend her leisure time playing chess and trading polo horses. The truth is it couldn't be more obvious she's jealous she wasn't included.
Teen Duck Lips, if you want to be included, you're going to have to ask. Swallow your pride and say, hey, next time you guys are staying up late playing checkers or whatever I'd love to join you, sounds fun. Chances are a nice girl like Whitney would be happy to include you. But making fun of what they chose to do with their leisure time is not going to get you any independent invites. I'd love to see TFW in a similar kind of reality show "house" situation. She'd be eaten alive, much like how Teen Duck Lips is being eaten alive, slowly, methodically, bite by bite.
Here, I'll cut to the chase, Teen Duck Lips. No one in the house likes you because you're not likable. See how everyone instantly liked Jon and always wants to hang around him? That's because he's nice, make everyone laugh, and throws around the football out back. Be more likable like him, and they will start liking you, too.
Sarah asks Teen Duck Lips exactly what has she done to help fix this [boring and stupid] situation? Teen Duck Lips thinks for a moment as she picks at her chopped salad and then says, uh, not talk so much? Ha, you know in this case that might actually help. Shut up shut up shut uuuuppp!
Jon, Duck Lips and her fiancé, and the lesbians are out back smoking. Baw-hahhhaha. Jon says, could we just grab that whiteboard in the therapy room and draw out in a flow chart Teen Duck Lips's so-called "story?" Then he hums the Smurf's theme for a little bit as he pantomimes drawing. Heh. "Now, does this make sense?!"
Baw-hahahhaah. Funny. Everyone's cracking up. No, of course none of this makes sense. No one can even figure out what she's even doing in couple's therapy, not being in a couple in the first place. And she dresses like a nun too and wears ballet flats, Duck Lips adds.
Ballet flats, people. Unbelievable.
Personally I quite like ballet flats myself, but that does not detract from how hysterical this conversation is. Even Duck Lips's fiancé, who hasn't said two words since he mentioned he was too hot a couple weeks ago, is just going off now, saying Teen Duck Lips has no business being here, her words are like puke to him, he's had it with her.
Jesus, they really hate her. Not that I'm surprised, since almost everyone does. Duck Lips says Teen Duck Lips needs therapy the most because she needs someone to tell her she's f--ed up. I believe that's been mentioned to her. If she didn't hear it the first thousand times why would she listen now? Duck Lips smells a rat! La--la--la-la-la-la, Smurf along with me.
Teen Duck Lips has retreated to her room and seems to have taken up the sophisticated pastime of reading. Liz joins Jon outside and he puts his arm around her sweetly and tells her he loves her. It's a real love fest out there, with everyone kissing everyone. Some folks are even kissing Duck Lips. If you ever watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills you would know how bizarre it is to see Duck Lips part of the group and more or less liked by the other housemates. She must be so pleased. They've all really bonded, except for Teen Duck Lips.
Dr. Jenn laments that no one in the house has much empathy for Teen Duck Lips. See, I don't blame people who have no empathy for someone who has never had empathy for anyone else. Plus they have to live with her and her snide passive aggressive behavior and Dr. Jenn doesn't, so easy for her to say.
Dr. Jenn pulls Teen Duck Lips into a one-on-one session, which as history tells us are always snark-a-lishous. Dr. Jenn thinks the root of a lot of Teen Duck Lips's issues is that sex tape everyone is talking about. Teen Duck Lips is a little annoyed by that, she's like look the tape was me having sex there's really not that much more to say about it. I almost sort of agree with her, but at the same time it's a sex tape, Teen Duck Lips, and sex tapes or even talking about sex tapes just makes for good guilty pleasure T.V., okay? Dr. Jenn says Teen Duck Lips has come far since she's been in the house (she has?) but there is something still holding her back.
Teen Duck Lips burst into tears and says what she's really upset about is that she signed a contract and signed some rights away but she is not permitted to talk about it. Ooooo. Is she talking about her daughter Sophia? Did she sign her over to
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That's my guess since I remember on Teen Mom Debra really wanting to raise Sophia and how Teen Duck Lips pretty much let her. I did a quick search around the web and other speculation is that she's being threatened with a defamation suit since she's basically been telling the world that the sex tape was just an unplanned accident leaked by her evil boyfriend, when the truth is she orchestrated the whole thing herself.
Dr. Jenn says they have to talk about it, so she makes all the cameras go away. Oh, phooey, I wanna watch.
Commercials. I don't have much to say about them since I've been mostly flipping to the Olympics during the commercials. Had Bob Costas not mentioned that he has to wear glasses because he woke up with his eye so rancid and infected it was swollen shut, I never would have noticed. Now I can't stop staring at it. It's shriveled and inflamed. It's so gross, like undead gross. Geez, is that thing contagious? I just want to put eye drops in it.
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Oh, Dr. Jenn, you disappoint. She's choking up saying the things Teen Duck Lips told her are some of the most horrific things she's ever heard, and she just doesn't know how Teen Duck Lips has the strength to face each day. Well, she's gotta get out of bed at some point, those chopped salads are not going to eat themselves. Of course they're the most horrific things you've ever heard because Teen Duck Lips made them all up. I'm sure she weaved a remarkable story, made it as outrageous as possible for maximum sympathy, and like an idiot Dr. Jenn fell for it. This is what she's been doing since her Teen Mom days. Dr. Jenn, wake up! And really, start marathon watching Teen Mom. You have all week to catch up.
I like that Duck Lips's fiancé jumps right in and says wait just a cotton pickin' minute here, can I just interject and say that's all well and good but that none of this has anything to do with me not liking her. I don't like her because I just think she lives in a bubble and doesn't listen to anyone, it has nothing to do with this stupid sex tape or any other nonsense. Exactly.
"I'm not living in a bubble!" is Teen Duck Lips's brilliant rebuttal. "This is "bull *bleep*!"
Oh, I so love that no one is falling for Dr. Jenn's crap. Whitney's like okay, whatever about this elephant in the room I don't know what the big gosh darn secret is but you're still an annoying tool and liar. How convenient that you can't talk about this because of legal issues, how convenient, but "now it's just like you're a chick in a room!"
No, not a chick in a room! A narcissist cannot just be another chick in a room, they will explode, it's a scientific fact.
Commercials, back to Bob Costas's eye for me.
We're back, and no amount of commercials can change that no one is buying what Teen Duck Lips is selling. Or Dr. Jenn. Hehe, poor things.
I love Whitney. She says that all this crap from Teen Duck Lips is holding back the rest of the group from being productive in therapy. Yes, agree. It's unnecessary drama that is taking time away from real problems the adults need to work on. Dr. Jenn blabs some nonsense about how Whitney is wrong. Whatever, Dr. Quack-quack. There is a definite duck theme here.
LOL, Duck Lips thinks she can "mentor" Teen Duck Lips. Duck Lips has no business mentoring an armadillo let alone the monstrosity that is Teen Duck Lips. Sada admits she did judge Teen Duck Lips. I don't know, is "snarking" judgment? I don't think so, I think that's just a good time.
On to Wu-Tang and Kelsey. Dr. Jenn wants them to talk about the secrets that have come between them. So, Teen Duck Lips doesn't have to talk about her secrets, but they do? That's fair. Not!
Wu-Tang says well, Latrice wasn't exactly a secret per se. Oh, well neither was Deep Throat then. Ha, the camera pans the room and everyone is making duck faces of WTF horror! Oh no, Kelsey seems to blame herself when she says she should have been more forceful in demanding he tell her what was going on with other women. Duck Lips actually has a good point in that noggin of hers in that Kelsey heard what she wanted to hear from Wu-Tang. You know, when Duck Lips is relaxed and other people are being patient and nice to her, she's not half bad. She even has a few salvageable neurons in there to say a few good things now and again. Just make sure the temperature always stays below 70 degrees and she's fine. Dr. Jenn explains that Kelsey maybe resisted hearing the truth because it might mean she would have to do something she didn't want to do.
Wu-Tang says well, Latrice wasn't exactly a secret per se. Oh, well neither was Deep Throat then. Ha, the camera pans the room and everyone is making duck faces of WTF horror! Oh no, Kelsey seems to blame herself when she says she should have been more forceful in demanding he tell her what was going on with other women. Duck Lips actually has a good point in that noggin of hers in that Kelsey heard what she wanted to hear from Wu-Tang. You know, when Duck Lips is relaxed and other people are being patient and nice to her, she's not half bad. She even has a few salvageable neurons in there to say a few good things now and again. Just make sure the temperature always stays below 70 degrees and she's fine. Dr. Jenn explains that Kelsey maybe resisted hearing the truth because it might mean she would have to do something she didn't want to do.
God, Wu-Tang's an idiot. "What's that?" he blurts.
Um, leave the relationship? Dr. Jenn says in a way that says she thinks he's an idiot too. Kelsey wishes she could go back to how things used to be.
Sada jumps in with what she said before, this is B.S. because you never had him in the first place so why are we talking about how things used to be? What used to be never was, get it? I get Sada. It is so infuriating to watch a woman be in a relationship like this, especially a woman you're quite fond of and know deserves better. Wu-Tang jumps all over Sada's correct analysis of the situation and says look men are pigs and I'm a man so therefore I'm a pig so just accept it.
Whatever. Kelsey, you deserve better, Sada says, shaking her head.
Jon and Liz didn't utter an entire peep this session. In fact they look a little overwhelmed with all this psuedo-celebrity drama, as well they should be.
After therapy, Teen Duck Lips is suddenly in an incredibly giddy mood. That's probably because she succeeded, once again, in pulling the wool over someone's eyes. A professional licensed therapist no less. She even dresses up in a slate gray business suit like she's about to interview at Goldman Sachs, minus the shimmering earrings the size of small infants.
Now she wants to do therapy, she's all about it. That Teen Duck Lips is a strange one. And a sociopath, no doubt about it. Of course Wu-Tang of all people is starting to understand her. He would. He actually shares some similarities to her in that he doesn't seem to realize that other human beings have this thing called feelings.
Now she wants to do therapy, she's all about it. That Teen Duck Lips is a strange one. And a sociopath, no doubt about it. Of course Wu-Tang of all people is starting to understand her. He would. He actually shares some similarities to her in that he doesn't seem to realize that other human beings have this thing called feelings.
As an aside, Jon can be seen walking in the background in a very nice black suit and belt and blue Steve-ish pressed dress shirt. What's the occasion for all this pomp? Maybe this is Teen Duck Lips's 150th lie she got away with scot-free on national television, definitely worthy of celebration.
Day 12, and Dr. Jenn sits down with Kelsey and Wu-Tang to talk about Latrice, who is on her way to the house as we speak. Kelsey hopes that this will help her make a decision what she is going to do. Hey, that's exactly what Wu-Tang wants. I don't understand these two. Wu-Tang feels caught in the middle. Oh, that must be so terrible for him.
"This is not like an audition," Dr. Jenn says in disbelief. She says Wu-Tang is like "a bomb that keeps detonating in women's faces." Yeah, a big stink bomb.
The lesbians tell Duck Lips that Latrice is coming to the house.
"What?!" Duck Lips blurts, leaning forward so far she could practically kiss the floor. Ha, I don't know why her "what?!" is so funny, but it is. It's just such a simple yet correct reaction to such an over the top shit storm. Duck Lips says this is painful to watch. Yeah.
Latrice comes into the room, wearing a fire engine red cocktail dress, stilettos and blond wavy hair extensions. I guess she got the memo this is an audition. She's pretty like Kelsey is, but more feminine and conservative. She seems quite a bit older than Kelsey, maybe even eight years older.
She comes in and hugs Wu-Tang, Kelsey sitting right there. "Hey, baby," she whispers. Blech, who are these people?
Latrice, meet Kelsey. Kelsey, meet Latrice.
Hello.
Hello.
Well, this isn't awkward at all.
Latrice says she had thought she was in a monogamous relationship. Of course she did, because that's how Wu-Tang rolls. Wu-Tang says he loves Kelsey but is not in love with her, and he knows Latrice more. Wu-Tang wants to know what Kelsey would have done had he told her sooner about Latrice. What kind of question is that? Kelsey is pissed now. She's like, well obviously I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place! Duh.
Wu-Tang claps his hands aggressively, babbling some nonsense about how Kelsey knew what he does and what he was. What does that mean? Obviously she didn't know any of that or we wouldn't be here in the first place.
Dr. Jenn has to break up the fight like you would with six-year-olds, cupping her hands around her mouth and screaming at them to stop.
"How can you treat her like this?!" Dr. Jenn demands. "Talk about disrespect! What the f&^^ is that?!"
I love when Dr. Jenn says f&%. She really means it when she throws that out. She owns it.
Kelsey screams some stuff about what a pig he is and then storms out, which she's done about three times now since I started watching this show. "Stay here," Dr. Jenn orders Wu-Tang, as she goes after her. Well, this was a no good very bad idea just like you predicted last episode, Dr. Jenn. Jesus, nothing went smoothly about this, what did you expect?
Next time on Couples Therapy, I just noticed that Kelsey's earrings are giant safety pins. Open one up and prick Wu-Tang in his big butt and be done with it. Oh, cool, Duck Lips and the lesbians are telling Jon that they don't like how Liz treats him. They're saying the same things the folks here said on the blog, about how she's dominating and running the show and belittles him. I think it's good for Jon to hear this from women who really seem to care about him and whose opinions he seems to value. Sada says, "That's when you say, 'listen, bitch!'" Ha, that's not quite how we said it but close enough.
You know Liz didn't say a thing this entire episode, and Jon's only contribution was that hysterical whiteboard flow chart "does this make sense?" thing, while humming the Smurf's theme. But it was a good one; that was so funny. La-La-la-la-la-la.
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Bringing over an excellent comment from the previous post:
"But I think it's confusing when we attribute bad behaviors to Satan, or call evil-doers spawn of the Devil. Sometimes its just seemingly ordinary people who've given full sway to their shadow sides. "
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/02/farrah-abraham-dad-comments-abuse-claims/
New article about Teen Duck Lips on ROL. I don't understand why her parents are standing behind her after so many lies.
This is so funny! Thanks for the recap admin!
Sheeple Definitions:
1.The compression of two words, sheep and people, to form one word meaning a mass of ignorant, unoriginal humans that herd together and follow mindlessly.
2. Sheeple (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people") is a term that highlights the herd behavior of people by likening them to sheep, a herd animal. The term is used to describe those who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without critical analysis or research.
Its good to have analysis, comparision, conversation and discussion. This is what we do here on this blog. It just gets feeling kind of yucky when a very strong opinion is said and that person gets frustrated that others wont assume it also.
Just my 2 cents. :) Happy Saturday. I feel pretty human today :)
Since this topic was discussed in an earlier thread, I thought I'd post this article here: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts?mbid=social_retweet
I was just reading emtanner's timeline. She should get a chapter or two in Hoffman's book! She was witness to Kate turning into the narcissistic fame whore she is today.
I'm glad you found the book useful, as did I. It was recommended to me by a therapist and boy, did it clear a lot of things up for me. The only thing missing was my mother's picture. My personal journey is still not without pitfalls. My siblings still laugh at the things I recount to them. They pass it off as "the way people did things back then". You start to second-guess yourself and wonder if you're the one with the problem. While you do have to take ownership for yourself, you receive validation from the good people in your life. Some people never grow, a sad fact. A narcissist can't be "cured". They sometimes have an "aha!" moment when they are old and grey, but by then it's usually too late. All the people they've repelled during their life have moved on and have no interest in trying anymore.
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So well said!
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Dr. Jen should NOT have given Teen Duck Lips preferential treatment as far as letting her have a "private off camera" moment. Did she or did she not sign up for this show? Again, someone "enabling" the narcissist. And you see! A freaking "psychiatrist" fell for it too! Where's HER radar?? From them letting her go on the show WITHOUT a significant other, to not calling her out on the "leaked sex tape" to letting her make up whatever convoluted story that only the therapist could hear. She needs to be TOLD, she needs to be CONFRONTED. And yes, she is unlikeable. That's life. It's nobody's job to make her feel liked, it's HER job. You'd never be able to conform to her criteria of what she needs anyways. like tfw, like my mother
From the previous thread -- the chicken coop capergate...
That had libel written all over it, and I think those putting it out on a blog should be thankful that Jon never pursued it. Sometimes these things are the proverbial straws that break the camel's back, and it pi$$es off a person so much that action is taken.
I just read that one of Alex Rodriguez's lawyers has sued the New York Daily News, two of its reporters and former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik for defamation.
It does happen.
Do you have a clip of Jon humming the smurfs song while making the flow chart? I would love to see it.
I love these recaps Admin. I don't even have to watch any of the clips. Your words provide the only visuals I need.
From the last post:
"So I'm curious ~ has anyone else heard about this parking spot issue or is it just me? "
I remember reading about this too. I don't think the store /supermarket was named (?) and I also recall that store employees were designated to help her out to her car.
Can't source it, it's just a memory.
Empress, I presume you have read Jung?
I just read that one of Alex Rodriguez's lawyers has sued the New York Daily News, two of its reporters and former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik for defamation.
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Odd that he's suing the same man he represented.
Oh my goodness. Has hell frozen over? :)
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/02/david-bar-katz-a-correction-and-an-apology-from-the-national-enquirer/
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Your post got me thinking about all the things I've heard that but yet I know I did not post anything about it.
One thing in particular I know about but I don't know whether or not I heard it from my friend or read it on one of the Gosselin blogs years ago.
The rumor was that the local grocery store gave Kate a designated reserved parking space next to their front door. Obviously she was not using it 24/7 but if Kate did go to the store and if someone was parked in it, she would demand that the vehicle be towed out of her spot.
Now this story was from years ago and if you were still watching the show you might be inclined not to believe this story. But if you look back at it now, especially after all the reported negative 1:1s in Target or wherever, you see Kate in a different light.
So this is kinda sorta a test ~ Are hearing this rumor for the first time? If yes, do you believe it or dismiss it?
If it turns out that you guys have not read about this rumor, then it would make me think I must have heard about it from my friend and if so it would be because she saw the reserved parking spot sign and/or no doubt heard from the locals complaining about Kate wanting cars towed.
So I'm curious ~ has anyone else heard about this parking spot issue or is it just me?
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Bringing this over from the last post. I remember reading that too.
A quick google search brought up the following:
http://imperfectwomen.com/how-did-the-e-true-story-impact-kate-gosselins-image
I know this is just the one blog commenting about what was presented on the E! show. But I have a memory or reading it on GWOP--is that Imperfect Women? Or maybe Polly's blog? Maybe it was just in one of the comments on that blog? But didn't TFMJG mention it on one of the early shows?
"So I'm curious ~ has anyone else heard about this parking spot issue or is it just me? "
I remember reading about this too. I don't think the store /supermarket was named (?) and I also recall that store employees were designated to help her out to her car.
I kind of remember something along those lines, too and believe that if I heard it anywhere it was on GWOP. IIRC it was when the tups were very young. Never heard about her asking for a car to be towed however.
Bringing over from prior thread
There is a photo on Kate's twitter where all the kids are reaching for the bird (Nov 12 or 13), can someone enlarge Collins hands?
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I know this is just the one blog commenting about what was presented on the E! show. But I have a memory or reading it on GWOP--is that Imperfect Women? Or maybe Polly's blog? Maybe it was just in one of the comments on that blog? But didn't TFMJG mention it on one of the early shows?
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Imperfect Women is a pro-Kate blog that collects IP #s. I don't read there.
But I have a memory or reading it on GWOP--is that Imperfect Women? 16
They are two separate and very different blogs. I have heard that IW has little or no coverage of Kate these days. (?)
Do you have a clip of Jon humming the smurfs song while making the flow chart? I would love to see it. 10
Me too!
Collin's right thumb looks fine in the apple-eating picture from the crookbook as seen on Amazon...if it's the left one, idk . But Jon said they used a plastic surgeon so I doubt there'd be much to see anyhow. And he must have good dexterity for all that Lego building!
On that topic someone brought up, maybe TFW wants Collin to be a Lego sponsor on a commercial or at least get free tix to the movie- why pay full price for icky boys?
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Its good to have analysis, comparision, conversation and discussion. This is what we do here on this blog. It just gets feeling kind of yucky when a very strong opinion is said and that person gets frustrated that others wont assume it also.
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I don't mean to just quote you on this discussion, but I do agree with what you said. My only issue with the discussion of what is "gossip vs what each one of us believe", is when someone here starts saying there are people here just as bad as Kate because we don't have proof positive of her actions.
Huge difference in my opinion. But, to clarify I see no problem with questioning what we hear. Each of us has to come to a personal assessment of how much is needed to prove what we believe. At some point it is personal. JMO.
If Kate is forced into some iota of self reflection, we have done something. And if Jon gets the courage to protect his kids more, GREAT!
I think public opinion does count as to whether someone gives Kate another contract to keep her kids in the public eye, robbing them of the little privacy they have.
And I hope Jon realizes that now days, boys and girls should be treated equally, and not so rigidly along strict gender lines. But, that only my opinion.
I believe the local Giant grocery store designated a parking space for the Gosselins, but I don't know how long for. I don't know whether to believe stories of Kate throwing a fit if she found anyone parking in that spot.
We do know, for certain, that Kate thinks any place is her parking space, be it in a Fire Lane, or not.
Thanks for the link to "People of the Lie". I looked it up on Amazon, and one commenter wrote about the subject of evil fostering dependency, and I think that is something that has stuck in our collective craw for some time now.
The way Kate feeds the kids, dresses the kids and decides the limited choices of activities they can do. It's so extreme!
The fact that she made the tups wear matching clothing up until recently is pretty sick if you ask me. The kids need to be deciding for themselves what they want to wear, so I think it stunts them to force them to wear matching clothing, to say nothing of fostering a lack of individuality.
Same goes for food. At this age, the kids should be able to make their own choices for breakfast and lunch, and should be able to make it themselves, when they feel like it.
When Jon said they can even go into a cupboard or the fridge without asking, it made me sick.
The control is insane.
Having to ask for a drink of water?
When you think about all of those activities which have influenced and defined each of us growing up, whether it be forming your own friends in your neighborhood, or joining Scouts, or playing a sport, or doing ballet recitals- these activities are so important to define who you are, and the Gosselin tups have NONE of this.
At almost 10, and they're still eating off of prison plates.
How can they function in the world?
Not very well, and I think that's by Kate's design.
Commenting in response to sheeple vs. fan on the previous post:
I agree. The sheeple adulate Kate. Every molecule of her being. There is nothing she has, or will ever do, wrong. Every single mishap or evil action has an explanation, albeit twisted, pretzel logic.
I'm a fan of many people. Actors, for example. I'm a fan of their WORK, not of them specifically. Just because I think an actor or a singer is terrific does not mean I worship them.
Regarding the discussion on sheeple...
When I was grocery shopping today, I was thinking about Milo. I have no idea why, but she popped into my head. It could have been because the woman in front of me checking out was wearing purple sneakers.
I know that Milo and others are so far up Kate's rear end and really can't see anything in there, but don't these uber fans ever wonder why Kate is disliked, not only by those on some blogs and Twitter, but by everyone -- thousands of people? These include those who interview her, run into her locally, people backstage at events, the DWTS participants, those on talk shows, and so on. So many can't be wrong in their opinion of her, how she acts, her diva, demanding behavior. They've seen it first hand.
What is it about Milo and the sheeple that they just don't get? Or do some of them really get it, but just can't admit it? They're right about Kate and everyone else is wrong. They still they continue their "support" of her, ignoring every stupid, immature thing that she's done. It can't be that all of them lack critical thinking ability and can't step outside their obsession to see her for who she really is. There must be some among them who can say, hey, wait a minute, why is this woman so universally disliked,and have only a few remaining fans left. I can understand the young teens who have no life experience and lack the ability to think logically. They only see someone who must have it really rough to raise EIGHT kids on her own, a single mom struggling and doing the best she can to care for her children. She's their roll model. Kids like Emily aren't stupid, and yet even those can't see it. With them, it's the celebrity fascination, I guess...being able to say that they know Kate. It's recognition for them. It's the adults I don't get, the ones who are parents and have raised children and yet continue to hold her in high esteem.
Why?
Is it not Jons custody this weekend? I wonder if he has ALL the kids this weekend? I also wonder if TCFW violated the custody agreement again....she must be spitting nails if Jon has C and M....I wouldn't like to be in her line of fire this weekend
I believe the Giant parking spot came to light in the local paper or Dana Hoffman's blog? Any local know if she still has that reserved spot?
To answer the person who asked, not all fans are sheeple.
Sheeple are a breed unto themselves, as described in comments above.
I posted on the other thread that a friend of mine's young son had the same thing happen to his figure tip (slammed in a door by a sibling). The tip was reattached successfully and you cannot tell. He did wear a cast too. His mother was frantic and rushed him to the emergency room, unlike Kate.
Here's a good example of the type of sheeple on which I commented in my previous post (26)..
.Lauren @ljohnson2006 42m
Why do people care so much about how @Kateplusmy8 lives HER life with HER children? As long as they're loved and well cared 4 all good!
They just don't understand. Why do people care so much? Could it be because these kids have been used, and continue to be used by a narcissistic mother who puts them on display for her own agenda?
Why don't they get it? Is it because of lack of intelligence, no critical thinking ability, or because they want a fight with the "haters?" I wish I knew. The psychology of the sheeple is so fascinating, but yet so disturbing.
Then you have these fans, who think that Kate needs them for protection. I know that some of them have problems (or proumbels), but still it is concerning that they believe that somehow Kate depends on them, even though she has never acknowledged them and ignores them.
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@Kateplusmy8 if some people have a proumbel that's I have been stick up for Kate I don't care she needs me
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@Kateplusmy8 I am not Kate Gosselin I am just stick up for because she's been through a lot I am protected her she needs me
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@Kateplusmy8 i am only stick up for kate through her difficult time right now she's needs me too procted her
Protect her from what? From whom?
I'd like to write a book...
I remember reading about the grocery store parking space many times on the old blogs, and i remember reading that tfw would be furious if someone parked in her spot, but i'm not sure if i read that anyone was towed.
I'm relatively new here; what does "TCFW" mean?
I'd like to write a book...32
Please do! I'd buy it in a New York minute.
Concerning the parking space:
In her first book (that Beth wrote) there was a section talking about some of the donations they received and it mentioned $5,000 in gift cards and 1 year supply of diapers from Giant (which is where she still shops). It then went on to say that the local store hung a sign with a picture of a stork on one of the parking spaces that said:
"Reserved for the Gosselin Gosslings".
We have heard of families of multiples getting some freebies like a years supply of diapers or formula but the amount of free stuff they received is unbelievable. Donations not just $50.00 or $100.00 but thousands of dollars. Free clothing, a lifetime supply of applesauce and apple juice, gift cards, cribs, strollers, car seats, free car insurance for at least a year and it just goes on and on. Then the show started with the free catered food plus the income from the show. Since they were filming at the house I have a feeling a lot of the household expenses like the mortgage, electric etc. were paid by TLC. Doesn't sound like a poor struggling family to me.
Tucker's Mom said... 24
I believe the local Giant grocery store designated a parking space for the Gosselins, but I don't know how long for. I don't know whether to believe stories of Kate throwing a fit if she found anyone parking in that spot.
We do know, for certain, that Kate thinks any place is her parking space, be it in a Fire Lane, or not.
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My memory is fuzzy, but I do believe it was Giant that gave her the special parking spot...and seems like they gave her a massive gift card to boot??
I can see how a small community would rally around this 'young struggling couple' who had 6 little bundles of joy...
and later on when the gift cards ran out and she demanded more, she turned her back on those that did so much for her and her family.
Shame on her.
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and yes, a poster upthread wondered if it's Jon's weekend for ALL the kids...I am wondering as well.
Carrying over from the other thread. Mickey -- I remember reading about TFMJG being 'given" a parking space by a local store. I don't remember where, or what store, and I don't remember if I read anything about her pitching a fit and wanting cars towed if someone else used the spot. It sounds like her modus operandi, though.
Rainbows -- I don't consider myself a "hater" either. I was a fan of the show, initially, although I always had a bad feeling about TFMJG. I don't hate her. I pity her. I think she's incapable of experiencing genuine love (other than of herself), joy, or a sense of accomplishment. That's not hate-worthy, that's pitiable. All the blessings she's had in her life, and she still has an empty spot that can never be filled. Who could possibly envy her? Yet the Sheeple claim we dislike her and her actions because we are "jellus" of her. The only things she's ever had in her life that were enviable are 8 beautiful, healthy children. She also had a husband who adored her, at least initially, and whom most women would have killed for, the way he catered to her and who pulled more than his fair share of the load.
Someone just spotted Kate at Starbucks....sounds like she was alone. the tweeter didn't mention kids. Unless their "home alone"....
I watched the original 16 and Pregnant and then Teen Mom that Farrah Abraham was on (Teen Duck Lips). She was the most shallow, superficial, unintelligent girl on the show, and that's saying a lot, since she was also on with Janelle, who was incredibly self-centered and on drugs a lot.
So I've seen Farrah interact with her parents quite a bit. I came to the conclusion that BOTH Farrah and her mom are insufferable jerks. Farrah seems to want everyone to think she's the good guy and her mom's the bad guy, but that rotten apple didn't fall far from that horrid tree. They were BOTH just awful, awful, awful.
And Farrah was the worst mom of the bunch. Neglectful as hell. Poor Sophia didn't seem to be much more than an afterthought, if that, for Farrah. And the way Farrah spoke to and treated her dad was breath-taking. (Her mom treated him the same way sometimes. Michael was like this long-suffering fool and I never understood why he hung around for such punishment. Perhaps they didn't understand why, either.)
Anyway, Farrah, her mom, and Kate Gosselin are all cut from very similar cloth.
MamaKnows--
I hear what you are saying about attracting people who may be narcissistic, or some degree of self-centeredness. Narcissism is a spectrum disorder and can co-occur with other personality disorders. One place to start looking for answers is in your family of origin. Alcoholism/addiction share many characteristics. If you were raised in a family with addiction, mental illness or other trait that drew excessive attention to another family member, then that could begin to explain why the mutual attraction with less than desirable people continues to occur. It may also be as simple that you are very welcoming and feel comfortable in being more passive in social situations. Not everyone is evil--but, yes, thre is definitely evil. I think that if you try to change your dynamics in social situation--for example, be more participatory in conversation, then people who want to dominate the conversation will probably not be interested.
Some of what you described is consistent with co-dependence. If you are from a family with an addiction history, there are twelve steps programs that directly addresses the dynamics in addicted families.
Not diagnosing you--just trying to give my perspective on what you have shared. My husband is an addict and has the diagnosis of narcissism. I spend a lot of time with family members of other addicts, and while there are always commonalities, there is also diversity of what brought us into the rooms. No one explanation for why we do what we do, or choose who we choose. Sometimes, we are emulating what we have seen in our famililies, and sometimes we are trying so hard to not repeat our family dynamics that we make other poor choices. Without addressing the fundamental personal issues, patterns tend to emerge and we keep repeating them--Jon and Kate! and now Jon and Liz--perfect example.
After thinking it over, IMO I think Kate's fans can be split in two camps.
People that are blinded by celebrities, and derive some sort of self worth with whatever small association they perceive to have with them, AND the martyrs, people that feel righteous in the never ending support for a cause or religion. They like to wear their self-sacrificing colors on their arms.
Martyrs are the least able to ever see the light, as their existence and propose is tied to their self-imagine.
I've come to the conclusion that one major element of milo's never ending love for Kate...and Kate's continued association with milo, is that they are BOTH martyrs!! (poor ME!)
Are they the same person...who knows. milo would like that....LOL
As for me, like I said before, I hate/detest animal and child abuse. I dislike Kate and milo's support of her. milo justifies the abuse. I hate the actions, not necessarily the persons.
Kate has tried to make creating multiples acceptable, IT'S NOT. And because of not reducing the numbers (which was the opposite of her intentions), she now has some of the pro-lifers behind her, when her real intention was fame and fortune.
This act should not be compensated and deemed acceptance in a humane and civilized society. Period.
Gabby said..."she now has some of the pro-lifers behind her, when her real intention was fame and fortune."
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Well, yes, like Goody. I wouldn't want her behind me or in front of me or in between. I'd want her nowhere near me.
For Lauren Jin 34 from 2 postd ago. Thanks Joy.
JoyinVirginia said... 37
Time for another list of acronyms used frequently on this blog.
Katie Irene Kreider = KK = Ms Kreider = maiden name of Kate Gosselin
TFW = The Former Wife, how Jon referred to TFW in prior interview.
TCFW = The Crazy Former Wife
TFMJG = The Former Mrs Jon Gosselin
WOS = Waste Of Space = what TFMJG called the Grand Canyon on the RV trip from hell as shown on K+8, WOS refers to TFMJG on this blog generally.
Yet the Sheeple claim we dislike her and her actions because we are "jellus" of her.
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True, and one of the sheeple's main contentions is that the media is out to destroy Kate. It's always the fault of someone else. It's never Kate's fault. I wonder how many of them go through life blaming someone or something else when it was their own decisions that led to whatever unhappiness they have experienced in life.
The thing with Kate is that she will never learn from her mistakes, and that's truly alarming. One can expect this from a youngster or a teen. How many times as parents have we been through this with kids? You can advise them, and sometimes even tell them what NOT to do, but they do it anyway and then say, "Next time I'll listen to you." Next time comes and they still do it their way and screw up. With Kate, though, she's an adult with the emotional age of a teenager and until she grows up, gets help for her mental health issues, she will continue to put herself in the same pattern of messing up time and time again.
Acronyms
TFW = The Former Wife
TCFW = The Crazy Former Wife
TFMJG = The Former Mrs Jon Gosselin
WOS = Waste Of Space, and we don't mean the Grand Canyon like TFMJG did.
KK = Katie Kreider = Katie Irene = maiden name of TFMJG.
OT who cares about the olympics? VCU is playing St.Joseph s tonight on CBS sports network!
Voteshaka.com #shameless begging #LetsGoVCU!
Kate is a Slag said... 40
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I watched some of Teen Mom and I thought Farrah's mom was ok, although I was not a regular viewer and don't know what happened with their 'fight.' I thought the mother bent over backwards to help Farrah and Sophia whom she obviously loved a lot. She gave Farrah sensible advice and a free rental home and traveled to watch Sophia in Florida while Farrah 'found herself' and went out partying. Farrah's sister was awful too and treated the mom like dirt. The dad and mom I thought were separated for a while anyhow. I just always thought the mom was a bit of a doormat yet sometimes would stand up for herself especially if she thought Sophia's welfare was at risk. JMO..
I hear what you are saying about attracting people who may be narcissistic, or some degree of self-centeredness. Narcissism is a spectrum disorder and can co-occur with other personality disorders. 41
This statement and the rest of your comment were excellent.
I happen to disagree with your assessment of Liz, however. We don't and shouldn't ever know enough about her to make such a judgment, CT ( a reality show) notwithstanding. That said, you are entitled to your opinion.
Gabby said..."she now has some of the pro-lifers behind her, when her real intention was fame and fortune." 42
As I said on the previous thread, she can be pretty persuasive initially, before the "ugly" shines through. She played the overwhelmed, poverty stricken, Christian martyr for all it was worth (which was a LOT). Some still believe it. It must fill a need in their lives, I dk.
Blowing In The Wind said... 31
''......Lauren @ljohnson2006 42m
Why do people care so much about how @Kateplusmy8 lives HER life with HER children? As long as they're loved and well cared 4 all good!
They just don't understand. Why do people care so much? Could it be because these kids have been used, and continue to be used by a narcissistic mother who puts them on display for her own agenda?''
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I was about to comment on that very twitter! My objection to that comment was the way the fan echos TCFW saying she lives HER life w/HER children. Once again totally ignoring that the children are also JON'S children and he is as big a part of the children's life as TCFW is.
Then she adds insult to injury by saying that they're loved and ''well cared 4''. All those seasons of watching WOS being so mean and hateful to the children and it doesn't seem to have penetrated her brain one iota!
I do think that many of the fans do feel ''protective'' of TCFW, and I can kinda sorta understand that by remembering how I was w/my children. The thing that confounds me is that they feel that way about WOS and not the children.
I'm right back in the loop of being unable to figure out why WOS acts the way she does, therefore I'm unable to understand why her fans defend and 'protect' her. It seems to me that since their idol is vile, their attacking everyone who doesn't adore her is also vile.
PS
TCFW means The Crazy Former Wife.
Rhymes with Witch said... 35
I'd like to write a book...32
Please do! I'd buy it in a New York minute.
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lol, Rhymes! Thanks. I'd hope it would do better than Kate's cookbook. I'd have to get a picture of Gladys looking through the windows, and of the two of them walking off, hand in hand, into the sunset. Either that, or a shot of her purple sneakers!
"How can they function in the world?
Not very well, and I think that's by Kate's design."
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Exactly, Tucker's Mom. Their own mother can't function in the real world, so how can one expect the children to do so? She should be their role model, but when a role model has no idea how to guide her own children, you just have to hope and pray that someone, somewhere steps forward to mentor them. Either that, or by the grace of God, they emerge from this whole debacle unscathed.
Admin, is there a way you could post a link to the common acronyms on the sidebar?
Getting caught up here but just an OT FYI-Blackfish will be on CNN tomorrow, Sunday. I am anxious to see it.
Either that, or by the grace of God, they emerge from this whole debacle unscathed. 52
God bless these (and all) children, help Jon do right by his children and shine the light of enlightenment on their mother.
Kate has tried to make creating multiples acceptable, IT'S NOT. And because of not reducing the numbers (which was the opposite of her intentions), she now has some of the pro-lifers behind her, when her real intention was fame and fortune.
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This really resonates with me. The Evangelical Christian base that swooned over Jon and Kate's refusal to "reduce" the pregnancy were so blinded by their ersatz piety to ask the real question: How did Jon and Kate let this happen in the first place?
One article I read, authored by a Christian woman, got it. She asked this question:
"We evangelicals tend to be easily impressed. We cheered on Jon and Kate's decision to carry all six babies to term but rarely considered the prior question: Was it right for them to undergo risky fertility treatments in the first place? "
Kate had 4, count 'em, 4 follicles that stood a pretty darn good chance of becoming fertilized eggs. Despite Kate's insistence that her fertility doctor thought there was a small chance all 4 would fertilize, and further, split into paternal twins, this assertion doesn't really wash.
What doctor would risk four babies in a womb meant to carry one?
Here's the article by a Christian who "gets it":
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/juneweb-only/122-11.0.html
Can't remember who posted about Mommy Dearest being in Netflix but thanks for the tip. Just getting to the wire hanger scene. Uncanny!!
Just got home and reread what I wrote....lordy!!!
Dyslexia! Or something! I actually do switch words in my head sometimes.
Propose should be purpose, self-imagine should be self-image, and acceptance should be acceptable!!
What I see on this blog, are not martrys or haters, I see activists who when they see abuse, they don't stay quiet. When they see lies, they want to dig for the truth. And if someone with a public persona is conning the public ($$$$$), they will call them out.
As for the movie Blackfish, I already consider myself an activist for the rights of whales and dolphins, really any creature that feels pain. I can't watch the movie because my heart would break in a million pieces. I already know too much, google Keiko and Luna to name a few.
What a great actress that little girl who played Christina was! Holy smokes
Propose should be purpose, self-imagine should be self-image, and acceptance should be acceptable!!
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Not porpoise? :)
OT: DH and I are enjoying a fire, watching Olympic coverage and tucking into a bowl of popcorn, popped with coconut oil.
Wow! It's good!
I just bought coconut oil and this is my first try at using it for anything. It really does impart a "movie theater " popcorn aroma and taste.
Formerly Duped said... 48
Kate is a Slag said... 40
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I watched some of Teen Mom and I thought Farrah's mom was ok, although I was not a regular viewer and don't know what happened with their 'fight.' I thought the mother bent over backwards to help Farrah and Sophia whom she obviously loved a lot. She gave Farrah sensible advice and a free rental home and traveled to watch Sophia in Florida while Farrah 'found herself' and went out partying. Farrah's sister was awful too and treated the mom like dirt. The dad and mom I thought were separated for a while anyhow. I just always thought the mom was a bit of a doormat yet sometimes would stand up for herself especially if she thought Sophia's welfare was at risk. JMO..
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I agree with you. I watched Farrah since episode 1 of Teen Mom and I always thought her mom was more than helpful. Farrah has always been an entitled bitch and her mother was used, abused and taken for granted. I couldn't believe how Farrah treated her and how she continues to treat her. There is no way I would put up with what she has for this long. NO WAY! Some may call Deborah crazy but I don't. She's done what she thought she had to do to try and keep some peace. Farrah is a sociopathic, narcissist. How do you have a relationship with someone like that?
Why is Milo such a proponent of parental alienation? Is that what they teach at her go-to-Sunday meetins?
Such a darn hypocrite.
I pretty much agree that Debra wasn't that bad and that Farrah is the problem.
I do think Debra has her issues. I think she has difficulty expressing love appropriately and I think she's impatient and too emotional. But I think Farrah may have driven her crazy, and I'm not joking about that. She had an absolute handful and nightmare on her hands and I don't think she had a clue how to handle her. It's been a hot mess ever since. Farrah has probably been giving her grief since she was a little girl. I give her credit for hanging in there with her.
Rhymes with Witch said... 2
Bringing over an excellent comment from the previous post:
"But I think it's confusing when we attribute bad behaviors to Satan, or call evil-doers spawn of the Devil. Sometimes its just seemingly ordinary people who've given full sway to their shadow sides. "
Rhymes with Witch said... 13
Empress, I presume you have read Jung?
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Why yes, how did you guess? :)
..and kate is falling back on the famous people she knows.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 42m
Dear @EvanLysacek Your @citi commercial gives me chills and makes me miss you:) ❤️ #youreamazing
If I was a betting woman, I would bet that jon has ALL the kids this weekend, therefore little to no tweeting from the Queen. Except when trying to gain the attention of a famous person.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 35m
@Kateplusmy8 So I guess U are thankful 4experienced farmers, big tractors, and kind hearted neighbors....heard U all were really snowed IN!
What in the world is she talking about? Kate was NOT snowed in. No, Milo, she has someone to plow her driveway. That's all she needed to get to the roads, which were not closed. No neighbors had to bring her food; no farmers had to come in on tractors to get her out. Just a snowplow on a guy's truck. That's all.
I guess old Milo is trying anything at all to get a response from Kate. Poor thing.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12m
@Kateplusmy8 Guess ur watching Olympics? What's the favorite events U guys like?
Well, heck, Milo. You talk to Kate all the time. Don't you know? Or do you just need to hear from her, and asking questions is a last ditch effort?
And here's Lauren, the Milo-In-Training, trying to worm her way into Deanna's good graces.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 34m
@Kateplusmy8 knows what an amazing friend @deannatweeting is to her, and role model to her kids. If no one else believes it, so what?
Deanna is a role model for the Gosselin kids? Good grief.
Rhymes with Witch said... 13
Empress, I presume you have read Jung?
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Why yes, how did you guess? :) 65
Oh, I donnow, that whole Shadow thing maybe? He had something with that.
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Admin,
Thank you for another fantastic recap! Appreciate your snark and of course your time!
"..and kate is falling back on the famous people she knows.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 42m Dear @EvanLysacek Your @citi commercial gives me chills and makes me miss you:) ❤️ #youreamazing"
That's just sad. You don't have real friends so you have to reach out to your pretend celebrity friends. They were on Dancing with the Stars together. He's complimentary about her in DWTS articles so I guess that's why he's a friend.
For those of you saying Debra wasn't that bad, I guess you missed the times when she'd say things to Farrah like that the father of her child was lucky he wasn't alive, because he'd be stuck with her?
Or the times she was so incredibly manipulating with Farrah?
I'm not saying Debra is some monster, but she RAISED Farrah. Farrah didn't just magically become the self-absorbed twat we see today. She was allowed to become that way and/or had a role model to emulate. Debra is not a good mom. She indulged her every whim too much, then she'd get pissed off and try to take EVERYTHING away. That's not good parenting.
Again, I'm not saying she's Hitler, but that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Can you imagine TFW and Teen Duck Lips together on a tv interview? lol My brain hurts just thinking about it.
Just like TFW, Farrah is anything but forthcoming, she plays with words, is passive aggressive and, here's a familiar word, inauthentic!
I guess old Milo is trying anything at all to get a response from Kate. Poor thing.
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Milo is getting desperate, going into withdrawal. Kate hasn't tweeted her since January 30.
I was looking back at Kate's tweets from the past week or so, and this one really made me chuckle. Remember that shot of her on the lift at DWTS...the one where she looked like the Shrek donkey? This reminds me so much of that -- it's the angle or something
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Another selfie... By kid request...... http://t.co/gbQI2Qg7Ss
@MiloandJack
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 If there was any genuine concern 4kids U don't go to #CourtOfPublicOpinion...U go 2FamilyCourt!
Milo, you're gonna eat those words. That's where he is a-headin!
She is such an idiot.
Tucker's Mom said... 56
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This really resonates with me. The Evangelical Christian base that swooned over Jon and Kate's refusal to "reduce" the pregnancy were so blinded by their ersatz piety to ask the real question: How did Jon and Kate let this happen in the first place?
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Over In TFW's County said... 67
I guess old Milo is trying anything at all to get a response from Kate. Poor thing.
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Sound familiar?? From wiki:
A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for advocating, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause, usually a religious one.
Looks like good Christian Milo, the personification of positivism, is on a hate Jon tirade again tonight!
Truthfully Teen Mom is kind of a blur to me, it's been so long since I've seen it. I remember thinking both Debra and Farrah had their issues, but I remember there were many times I just felt like Farrah was being absolutely vile to her mother. Even if Debra is wrong or crazy that is no reason to speak to her that way or treat her that way. I couldn't tell you why but I just remember thinking yeah Debra has her issues but the sociopath here is Farrah. And that could have been something she was just born with, her brain born off, different. Debra may not have made her that way with bad parenting at all.
@MiloandJack
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 If there was any genuine concern 4kids U don't go to #CourtOfPublicOpinion...U go 2FamilyCourt!
Milo, you're gonna eat those words. That's where he is a-headin!
She is such an idiot.
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I hope someone got a screenshot of that tweet before it's deleted. When Jon goes to family court, according to Milo, it means he has genuine concern for his kids. How is she/he/it going to explain that?
Rhymes with witch...
This statement and the rest of your comment were excellent.
I happen to disagree with your assessment of Liz, however. We don't and shouldn't ever know enough about her to make such a judgment, CT ( a reality show) notwithstanding. That said, you are entitled to your opinion
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I didn't put that well. In an earlier comment, I said that Liz, while similar, appears to be teachable. I think that is a huge improvement. If their relationship survives, I hope that it settles in with a minimum of drama. Those poor kids have had enough!
I wonder how Milo and the Kate fans will react if Kate does undergo a psychiatric evaluation and the results are NOT in her favor? Personally, I would like to see the entire family evaluated (Jon included). According to Kate, the children are always begging to be back on television. That is obviously not normal. An evaluation could determine if the kids need therapy to help them come to terms with the fact that their stint on television is more than likely OVER. I also hope Jon would ask the judge to ask for an accounting of the children's money. It makes me soooo angry when I read about Kate's Audi sports car, her use of Kiel's products, her expensive bird etc. According to Kate herself, she buys the children's clothing 2 sizes larger, doesn't provide them milk, feeds them lots of unhealthy canned food and many many eggs and deprives the boys of much needed dental care. What kind of mother would put her "needs" (wants) before her children's?
Milo doesn't know what she's talking about. She really doesn't know what she's talking about. She really is clueless about everything that has gone down in their family law case. Jon has been turning to the family law courts for help for years. He has been using the proper channels to lodge complaints about Kate for years. I think she'd have a hard time defending her idol if she were even remotely aware of this.
I put a lot of weight in Sada's opinion of Liz. She has been spot on about so much else. Apparently next episode Sada is going to talk to Jon about some of Sada's concerns about Liz. From what little we saw Jon seems to be listening to her. I'll be interested to see that full scene and not the heavily chopped up version for the preview clip. I suspect that hearing other members of the house share their opinions and concerns about each other is really good for both him and others in the house.
That's another thing that Farrah is just totally disconnected from. Other members of the house talk to each other about their relationships and share thoughts and opinions. Farrah never seems interested whatsoever in sharing like that. She doesn't show even the slightest interest in trying to help anyone else or listen to anyone else or weigh in with her thoughts on anyone else, other than to pick a fight. Her lack of effort to show interest in others obviously makes people feel like she doesn't care.
I didn't put that well. In an earlier comment, I said that Liz, while similar, appears to be teachable. I think that is a huge improvement. If their relationship survives 78.
I for one hope their relationship does survive. All relationships take work and time on both sides. twf will never get that and that is part of her downfall. Both Jon and Liz deserve better. I hope they find it. The fact that Liz has has a good relationship with her ex gives me high hopes. Kate is hopeless. (imo).
I wonder how Milo and the Kate fans will react if Kate does undergo a psychiatric evaluation and the results are NOT in her favor?
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De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
I wonder how Milo and the Kate fans will react if Kate does undergo a psychiatric evaluation and the results are NOT in her favor?
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How would anyone know? Isn't that information private between the patient and those making the evaluation?
OT vcu lost to Saint Joseph. It was a good game, well officiated up until two minutes before the end. then we watched Memphis and Gonzaga, that was an exciting game. I already watched olympic coverage on NBC sports network today, didn't watch the heavily edited evening coverage.
I really enjoy Johnny Weir as a skating commentator, he brings a fresh perspective.
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I for one hope their relationship does survive. All relationships take work and time on both sides. twf will never get that and that is part of her downfall. Both Jon and Liz deserve better. I hope they find it. The fact that Liz has has a good relationship with her ex gives me high hopes. Kate is hopeless. (imo).
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I agree 100%!
Look what emtanner did to the cover of the cook book.
http://instagram.com/p/kGmnO9K1y2/#
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
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Olympic competitions (some at earlier times than regular NBC, some not on NBC at all) can be found on NBCSN (NBC Sports Network).
I wasn't even aware I had this cable channel until I went searching for it. If you're wanting more coverage and/or games at different times you may find them on this network.
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/02/08/man-responsible-for-olympic-ring-mishap-found-dead-in-sochi/
Did anyone hear about this? What in the world?
Never mind!!!! Hoax hoax HOAX!
I should have more coffee before logging onto my computer!
Awwww. My heart melts when I read stuff like this! Just imagine the good that comes of kids interacting with shelter animals in this way! Factor in the Gosselin 8 (who seem to be living a restricted life of their own), and the benefits would increase exponentially. TFW's vision must be obstructed by the stars in her eyes; otherwise, she'd have seen (and signed up her own kids for) this:
"At Animal Rescue League of Berks County [PA], children can read to shelter cats to soothe them. The cats adore them and are always delighted to have these little humans there to keep them company.
Children in grades 1-8 who are able to read at any level are welcome into the shelter to read to the cats at their adoption room. 'The program will help children improve their reading skills while also helping the shelter animals. Cats find the rhythmic sound of a voice very comforting and soothing,' the shelter wrote."
Read more at http://lovemeow.com/2014/02/children-read-to-shelter-cats/#B57t4RAgLazCq0fT.99
Kate is a Slag said... 71
For those of you saying Debra wasn't that bad, I guess you missed the times when she'd say things to Farrah like that the father of her child was lucky he wasn't alive, because he'd be stuck with her?
Or the times she was so incredibly manipulating with Farrah?
I'm not saying Debra is some monster, but she RAISED Farrah. Farrah didn't just magically become the self-absorbed twat we see today. She was allowed to become that way and/or had a role model to emulate. Debra is not a good mom. She indulged her every whim too much, then she'd get pissed off and try to take EVERYTHING away. That's not good parenting.
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the comments. IMO, there are no bad kids, only bad parents.
PJ
Rainbowsandunicorns 73: yep...just like the Shrek donkey. Her wonky eye is more prevalent in her selfie as well.
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the comments. IMO, there are no bad kids, only bad parents.
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I don't believe that AT ALL. I've seen the opposite happen in my own family. You can be the kindest, most loving parents and still raise a shithead. Kids come into this world with their own agenda. It's up to the parents to guide, teach and love but there is no guarantee that a child will turn out well. Also, a person can use the excuse that they're rotten to the core because of mom and dad instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. It goes the other way also. Some exceptionally wonderful people have come from the worst circumstances.
Agree with Lalala. Sometimes a kid is just born a certain way and a parent can try to mold and guide them away but it might not help. I think the root of Farrah's personality is probably something she was born with. Genetic. Even if Debra were mother of the year it might not have made a difference.
"One abnormality affecting the brain's limbic system showed up in 6-month-old babies, who later committed more crimes and displayed more signs of psychopathy and anti-social behavior than "normal" adults.
Three-year-olds with a poorly functioning amygdala, a key part of the limbic system, were also more likely to commit crimes 20 years later."
It's the old Nature vs. Nurture. I'm not meaning to make blanket statements. I've seen rotten kids born into great families. But by the time they are adults they either straighten up and fly right and turn out great or they've learned to hide their sociopathic tendencies. I've also seen kids who are constantly told how rotten they are and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've seen great people come out of horrible families. Many times I've heard people say that so-and-so had great parents but a little investigations reveals that the great parents weren't so great. In this case, in TDL's case, I've read enough to tell me that her mother is not so great. I agree, there does come a time when you can't use your upbringing as an excuse for crappy behaviour.
PJ
"One abnormality affecting the brain's limbic system showed up in 6-month-old babies, who later committed more crimes and displayed more signs of psychopathy and anti-social behavior than "normal" adults.
Three-year-olds with a poorly functioning amygdala, a key part of the limbic system, were also more likely to commit crimes 20 years later."
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Is there a link to this? Thanks.
I guess the age-old argument, nurture or nature, has been solved.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Another selfie... By kid request...... http://t.co/gbQI2Qg7Ss
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1. A 'selfie' is of YOURSELF...she really sees those kids as objects, doesn't she...
2. what a coincidence pics of the boys are appearing now that Jon has gone on record about present circumstances...
3. she really is an unattractive person, isn't she. She really does look like Shrek...can he sue? she's copying his likeness..
lukebandit said... 87
Look what emtanner did to the cover of the cook book.
http://instagram.com/p/kGmnO9K1y2/#
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
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I love it! lol
Look what emtanner did to the cover of the cook book.
http://instagram.com/p/kGmnO9K1y2/#
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
Really, don't you think that's carrying things too far? Did she actually buy the book? If so all she did was line Kate's pockets a little more. This is where I think the non fans take things too far and they all (fans and Kate included) act like they're still in high school.
1. A 'selfie' is of YOURSELF...she really sees those kids as objects, doesn't she...
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She once said the kids are extensions of herself. She actually said exactly that. So yes, it was a real "selfie"!
I think Em Tanner can do what she wants with the book. She's earned it.
I disagree. Sometimes kids have the same decent parents and upbringing and do not turn out well when their siblings do. I think it;s a combo of nature and nuture.
As for Debra, I didn't hear that remark about Derek, although I do know he was abusive to Farrah and they had broken up before Sophia was born ; not sure if he knew she was pregnant?
Carole, yes, NBC sports network is on many cable outlets. The channel used to be called Outdoor channel, them was Versus for a few years, got the NBC name couple years ago?
Bob Costas is anchoring coverage which is live from Sochi starting at like three am eastern time.
The NBC evening coverage is heavily edited highlights focusing on mainly American competitors. I like the live coverage, its full of surprises and competitors from all the countries.
Admin, maybe I missed this. What is your avatar picture?
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
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Her timeline is actually @emtannerdesigns
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Look what emtanner did to the cover of the cook book.
http://instagram.com/p/kGmnO9K1y2/#
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
Really, don't you think that's carrying things too far?
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Nope. It's perfect.
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/02/08/man-responsible-for-olympic-ring-mishap-found-dead-in-sochi/
Did anyone hear about this? What in the world?
The Daily Currant is a satire website. They take situations that are "real" and then create a story about them. It didn't happen.
Selfie is really a good descriptor for her.
http://t.co/gbQI2Qg7Ss
So is she trying to imply she has the kids this weekend while she mad tweets celebrities, and while this pic is dated 2/2?
Reality Check said... 100
Look what emtanner did to the cover of the cook book.
http://instagram.com/p/kGmnO9K1y2/#
If the link doesn't work go to her timeline @emtanner
Really, don't you think that's carrying things too far? Did she actually buy the book? If so all she did was line Kate's pockets a little more. This is where I think the non fans take things too far and they all (fans and Kate included) act like they're still in high school.
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I don't. I think it was spot on. That's another characteristic of sheeple; they don't understand: snark, irony, parody, subtlety , or commentary. They take things very literally and only know ATTACK. Em didn't buy the book I'm sure there are plenty of images in the WWW to photoshop. Those are Kate's own words she used ( except the brats part). The brat part is not what ET thinks of the kids it's what is felt that Kate thinks of the kids if they don't perform.
Really, don't you think that's carrying things too far? Did she actually buy the book? If so all she did was line Kate's pockets a little more. This is where I think the non fans take things too far and they all (fans and Kate included) act like they're still in high school.
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I agree. She can do whatever she wants with her page. Heaven knows Kate was horrible to her. However, there's such a thing as putting it behind you and moving on. The "incident" with Tanner happened two years ago. In my opinion, it's juvenile and doesn't speak well of her at all. Time to let it go and take the high road. It looks like she's still carrying a grudge and it's really not at all funny, if that was the intention.
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MamaKnows--
I hear what you are saying about attracting people who may be narcissistic, or some degree of self-centeredness. Narcissism is a spectrum disorder and can co-occur with other personality disorders. One place to start looking for answers is in your family of origin.
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Chronic illness. Thanks for a very well written post. I am a listener and thinker by nature and I think narcissists assume that means passive. I attract them but don't keep them long. I must say the 12 Step groups/books/blogs have excellent materials that everyone can learn from and incorporate into daily life. They led me to Cognitive Behavior Therapy which is life changing. I recommend David Burns Mood Therapy as a good place to start. Thanks again Ex-Nurse. Much appreciated.
I come across this the other day and just now posting. It is a video of Russian dash board cameras that catch acts of kindness. I had tears rolling! Very moving. When you get a chance, please watch it, it is worth it.
Link: http://youtu.be/MGEiA80ZL08
The book cover sadly was funny, but so true...I was looking at the book on Amazon to look at Collin's thumb and glanced at the reviews,mainly one star ratings and scathing comments continue.
Milo the Martyr has been frothing at the mouth lately, can't help but think it's the irony of irony....
How did I miss this! Finally! His side is finally coming out.
Jon and Wendy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVeHaiqDRE
Sleepless In Seattle said... 84
I wonder how Milo and the Kate fans will react if Kate does undergo a psychiatric evaluation and the results are NOT in her favor?
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How would anyone know? Isn't that information private between the patient and those making the evaluation?
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I totally agree that IF any psych tests are completed on kids and parents, it will be confidential, and by nature of Family Court not releasable under Family Court laws, unless a crime has been committed, as I understand it.
Rather, hopefully the Family Court Judge could use the evals as a tool to help both the parents do the right thing by the kids. And have employees follow through, if necessary, to see that the recommendations are occurring.
I just saw this too....LOL. milo is going to melt down, I have a vision of her, just like in the Wizard of Oz....
Hey, no more TLC lawyers!
After Show: There's Something about Jon Gosselin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCcdDAt2PK0
Yep, she is doing a "selfie" alright. About HER and who will go along with doing a photo op with her including 2 of the 3 second class citizens. All about Kate, so is really is a "selfie."
TFW tweeted: @Kateplusmy8: Dear @EvanLysacek Your @Citi commercial gives me chills and makes me miss you:) ❤️ #youreamazing
Citi answered because she included them in THER tweet: @CitiEveryStep: @Kateplusmy8 Have you supported @EvanLysacek in the @Citi #everystep program yet? http://citi.us/MxqO8a
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Oopsie,, @Citi turned it back on her and TFW hasn't yet answered. We all know the answer though. Maybe she's too busy wit her not a contest contest to click and make a donation.
IF any psych tests are completed on kids and parents, it will be confidential, and by nature of Family Court not releasable under Family Court laws, unless a crime has been committed, as I understand it.
I think everyone knows by now that medical records are confidential as are family court records, but you're not taking into consideration the possibility that non-professionals, ie: relatives, friends or frenimies, might talk. You know... those unnamed, confidential sources who so often spill the beans on what's supposed to be confidential info.
She can do whatever she wants with her page. Heaven knows Kate was horrible to her. However, there's such a thing as putting it behind you and moving on.
This was the 1st and only time she's mentioned TFW in 2 yrs. If you look at her instagram account you'll see she's most definitely 'moved on'. I don't consider making one random comment about someone (especially considering the background story) in the span of 2 yrs to be holding a grudge. She just took the time to use her creativity to say something that others have already also said. As for buying the book? I highly doubt it. I'll bet she used an image available on the net and just added the text.
I think that all of the kids could benefit from a therapeutic summer camp. Lots of crafts, horse ridding and sports mixed with therapy.They need a vacation away from both parents so they can process everything that has gone on in their short lives.
Both parents can get the counseling they need while the kids are away. I do think Jon needs counseling as much as TFW. He has a lot to process and recover from.
I just saw this too....LOL. milo is going to melt down, I have a vision of her, just like in the Wizard of Oz....
Hey, no more TLC lawyers!
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This was online right after the show. I'm sure she's seen it by now. If she melted down, she melted right back up again, with more nasty comments than ever.
So is she trying to imply she has the kids this weekend while she mad tweets celebrities, and while this pic is dated 2/2?
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What celebrities is she mad tweeting now? Is Milo following suit?
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Sleepless In Seattle said... 84
I wonder how Milo and the Kate fans will react if Kate does undergo a psychiatric evaluation and the results are NOT in her favor?
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True, any findings of an evaluation will never be known to anyone. However, if the findings of the eval would potentially result in custody modification in Jon's favor.... Milo & Co. would then claim that Jon paid off the psychologist, or some other miscarriage of justice was inflicted on Kate. They will never, ever, ever, ever, admit or acknowlege that there is something wrong with her that would affect her parenting abilities. No matter what goes wrong in Kate's or the children's lives, in their minds it is ALWAYS Jon's fault or doing. The end.
I was just entering a Little Debbie's snack cake contest and the contest rules were right there so I thought it was interesting TCFW DIDN'T include this in her contest.
3. Who Can Enter: The Giveaway is open to all legal residents of the 50 United States and the District of Columbia who are 18 years old or older (19 years old or older for Alabama and Nebraska residents) at the time of entry. The Giveaway is also open to all legal residents of Canada (excluding the province of Quebec) who are the age of majority in their province/territory. Void elsewhere and where prohibited. Employees of Facebook, Inc., and employees of the Giveaway Entities and the immediate family members [defined as parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, and spouse (including common law), regardless of where they reside] of each employee are not eligible to enter the Giveaway or win Giveaway prizes. Any other persons with whom such employees are domiciled are also not eligible to enter the Giveaway or win Giveaway prizes.
Hmmmm. She is in deeeeeep! Can't wait to see the perp walk! lol Will Steve be allowed to escort her? Or just the local PD? Steve has had plenty of experience carrying her purses, dry cleaning and luggage. Oh, and buffering...that's it...buffering. lol
I agree Farrah was AWFUL to both her parents on the show. There were times my jaw just fell open. But then I'd sit there thinking, "Why in the WORLD do they ALLOW that?" I saw that starting with 16 and Pregnant, when Farrah was just 16. She wasn't born talking to her parents with such blatant disrespect and spite. She learned it was tolerated, it was ok.
Debra and Michael were not good parents. You can't tell me they were when I saw how they allowed their minor daughter to act. On TV, no less. If she could act like that in front of national cameras, just imagine what she was like when they weren't there.
It's a mistake to just feel sorry for the parents when the teenager is speaking to them so horribly. Why was that allowed in the first place? My 19 year old daughter has NEVER spoken to me the way Farrah has to her parents. I'm sure she's thought some choice things, LOL. But she knew better than to speak them aloud, because she was raised in a respectful, healthy family.
Farrah was not.
Sorry, I'm behind. I personally saw the space reserved for Kate at two different Giant stores. Yes, two of them. Neither is the one she uses now because of a different house location. The signs were up for a year. When she was in the newspaper saying society owed her nursing for allowing her to have multiples, public opinion turned and the signs disappeared. But I don't think they were promised for forever anyway. I don't know if she asked for anyone to be towed. I can see how someone would have said screw this and parked there.
Andrea said... 121
I think that all of the kids could benefit from a therapeutic summer camp. Lots of crafts, horse ridding and sports mixed with therapy.They need a vacation away from both parents so they can process everything that has gone on in their short lives.
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We've been saying this for years.
The kids need to split up and get away from everything, including both their parents.
Camp is so wonderful, and while having a nice pool is great and all, it seems to be pretty much all the kids do all summer long-- with each other.
I'm betting that Jon and Liz would support a fun week at camp for each kid who wants to go.
It's time to split the kids up. It's just not healthy to be corralled together like they are.
And no, school does NOT count.
I guess her 'few days' in her twisted world is a few months or a few years.......TFW tweeted on DECEMBER 29:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Dec 29
My kids&I will be reading your #bekindgetsigned (copy of Love Is In The Mix) submissions and picking top 12 over next few days! Stay tuned!
She just took the time to use her creativity to say something that others have already also said. As for buying the book? I highly doubt it. I'll bet she used an image available on the net and just added the text.
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That's just it, Carole. Why do it now, after so much time has passed? I don't see what "creativity" it required. It was just adding caption to the book cover.
but you're not taking into consideration the possibility that non-professionals, ie: relatives, friends or frenimies, might talk. You know... those unnamed, confidential sources who so often spill the beans on what's supposed to be confidential info.
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What relatives and friends does she have? Even so, if someone spilled, the rumors and gossip would fly, and then again, we'd be right back to not knowing fact from fiction, and who to believe.
Citi answered because she included them in THER tweet: @CitiEveryStep: @Kateplusmy8 Have you supported @EvanLysacek in the @Citi #everystep program yet? http://citi.us/MxqO8a
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This is sort of intriguing, isn't it?.
Is @citi calling Kate out? Hey, if you think Evan is so inspiring, how about pony up some money? Put your money where your mouth is, "celeb" name dropper!
Show us your good deeds, Kate!
Maybe, and this is a really big maybe, you might win a prize. Oh, and if you do a good deed, please take a picture!
Milo & Co. would then claim that Jon paid off the psychologist, or some other miscarriage of justice was inflicted on Kate.
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Or they'd blame the psychologist for not been qualified to make an evaluation! It's a good thing they couldn't find out who it is, or they'd be tweeting her/him unmercifully!
Hmmmm. She is in deeeeeep! Can't wait to see the perp walk! lol Will Steve be allowed to escort her? Or just the local PD? Steve has had plenty of experience carrying her purses, dry cleaning and luggage. Oh, and buffering...that's it...buffering. lol
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Nothing is going to happen to Kate. She will wiggle her way out of this somehow, perhaps by never announcing the winners, saying that there were too many great ones and no decision could be made. Therefore, she was sending a cookbook to everyone who entered.
The thing is you don't even have to donate any of your own money at this site. All you have to do is click. Come on, surely even TFW can click the link.
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Thanks for sharing that info, Jeanne, but unless you have photographs and a notarized statement from someone at Giant, I have a feeling a few people here won't believe you. ;)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 16m
@deannatweeting @BurkettSue @Kateplusmy8 LOL Is it any wonder WHY U & Kate R such gr8 friends! :) #YouTellEmGirl
Milo -- you've said a mouthful. You've got that right. Both are hanger-on-ers, emotionally immature...peas in a pod!
Again, it's the documents and hearings themselves that are confidential. Anyone who was at the hearing can blab all they want about it, and unless there is a "no discussion of the case" order they are within their rights to do so. Free speech doesn't stop just because you are in a courtroom.
In rare cases, usually because either they are celebs or there is parental alienation going on, a no discussion of the case order is made. But, even if there is a no discussion of the case order, I've never seen judges enforce that all too stridently. At most you'd get a slap on the wrist. Charlie Sheen talked all about his confidential case and no one ever sent him to jail for it. I'm sure the judge wasn't happy but likely he was just told to stop. Has he? No idea but what he said is already out there.
My recollection is the parties in the Gosselin matter were instructed not to discuss the case, but both Kate and Jon have violated that any which way but Sunday and no one seems to care. Kate talks about the custody arrangements al the time, Jon has given numerous interviews about the arrangements and other orders, etc. Point being, if someone wants it out there what a psych exam says and recommends, it will get out there.
"Why in the WORLD do they ALLOW that?" I saw that starting with 16 and Pregnant, when Farrah was just 16. She wasn't born talking to her parents with such blatant disrespect and spite. She learned it was tolerated, it was ok.
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Just judging by how Debra acted around her granddaughter, she strikes me as a woman who just wants her kids and grandkids to love and adore her unconditionally and lets them get away with murder as long as they still love her. She's the type who when she sends the kid to time out and the kid says no grandma I hate you! She would immediately say okay you can come out precious angel grandma is so sorry! Someone conniving like Farrah would exploit that.
I think she probably did let this poor behavior go on for years because she couldn't stand to come down hard on Farrah. When she finally realized well maybe that's not okay, it was way, way too late to change anything.
How would anyone know? Isn't that information private between the patient and those making the evaluation?
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No. Psych evaluations ordered by the court lose their protection of confidentiality. They are disclosed in all their glory, every last word, to the judge, every single attorney on the case, and potentially many other people who have a hand in the case. I've read hundreds of them. No confidentiality issue whatsoever in that context.
That's just it, Carole. Why do it now, after so much time has passed? I don't see what "creativity" it required. It was just adding caption to the book cover.
Why not comment? Everyone else was.
TFW had put the twins in a horrible position, the rest of the country, including celebs, was weighing in, why can't EM? I don't think it's fair to expect her to be forever silent and excluded from expressing an opinion simply because she has a history w/TFW and especially since she's been silent @ TFW for 2 yrs. As for the creativity - she took the time & put in the effort to do something I've not seen anyone else do w/the situation. JMO
Just wanted to post this Paul Petersen interview where he specifically mentions Jon & Kate plus 8. He briefly talked about his role in changing the laws in Pennsylvania, specifically because of Jon & Kate plus 8.
He also mentioned he maintains a relationship with Jon! (not kate).
http://whineat9.com/?p=2278
I guess her 'few days' in her twisted world is a few months or a few years.......TFW tweeted on DECEMBER 29:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Dec 29
My kids&I will be reading your #bekindgetsigned (copy of Love Is In The Mix) submissions and picking top 12 over next few days! Stay tuned!
I guess that time flies by so fast when you're blocking the haters and joining the fun! Those two months just zip on by and seem like only a few days!
He also mentioned he maintains a relationship with Jon! (not kate).
http://whineat9.com/?p=2278
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Paul Peterson, who?
Bill Blankenship, who?
Thanks for the link-- will give it a listen.
Thought Em Tanner's re-do of the book cover was pretty funny. Kate treated her like crap - so if one picture mocking Kate is something Em wants to do, why not? Kate certainly deserves to be mocked.
Paul Petersen is from the Donna Reed show. He has a website called A Minor Consideration and he is always pushing for the protection of child labor laws.
The entire interview is interesting, it's only about 20 minutes. However, it you want to skip ahead go to about 13 minutes (13:10). Here's what Paul Petersen said:
"But these children on Reality shows, particularly the beauty pageant world, the Honey Boo Boo's and Toddlers and Tiaras, it is gruesome. You are looking at child abuse. In fact, we went to the state of Pennsylvania for Jon & Kate plus 8, to change the rules there. They had cameras in the bathroom and in the bedrooms of these children. It was suffocating. And I have maintained a relationship with Jon Gosselin over the years. I was really lived. The idea that these children weren't under employment contracts, guaranteed money, guaranteed savings account and protected from what amounted to 24/7 exposure. It drove me nuts. And we succesfully passed laws in Pennsylvania to bring their child labor laws up to date. They were positively medieval."
There is an article on philly.com about leaving dogs outside in this cold weather. A dog owner is interviewed about his outside dog and all the times police have been called. There is also information about a new law being proposed in PA that would put more restrictions on where your pet can be in really cold or hot weather and some other things.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/20140209_ap_946351cb612d4390bffd870d66e3c480.html
Just speculating. Since Jon has been in contact with Paul Peterson for several years, I wonder if Paul recommended the powerful attorney Jon had when Kate sued him in last year.
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Maybe in general but I do recall a few times when Farrah and Debra were arguing over Sophia and she stood firm, Also she put her foot down about something to do with the rental house- the rent I think! It was subsidized anyway. But Debra enabled Farrah a lot and Michael- I though he was a stepdad for a long time as he seemed so uninvolved.
Did you see the epis with the bf from Kansas, was it- where Farrah was so rude and demanding, and almost proposed to the poor guy who bailed.
I was trying to remember when Wendy Williams started loathing Kate and I remember when Kate when on the show and said she was "burdened" with the children. Does anyone else remember that? No wonder WW can't stand her, what an awful comment.
Joy you were asking about my avatar photo, that's a photograph I took of LA from Griffith Park, an HDR photograph which means I layered several exposures together. It was the day after the recent fire we had (the one that preempted the Today interview with the twins in the LA markets!) so all those colors are real. Because it's so compressed it's pretty grainy but you get the idea!
Maybe in general but I do recall a few times when Farrah and Debra were arguing over Sophia and she stood firm, Also she put her foot down about something to do with the rental house- the rent I think! It was subsidized anyway. But Debra enabled Farrah a lot and Michael- I though he was a stepdad for a long time as he seemed so uninvolved.
Did you see the epis with the bf from Kansas, was it- where Farrah was so rude and demanding, and almost proposed to the poor guy who bailed.
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You know I'm realizing I need to watch it again in light of Farrah on Couples Therapy. I think it will help shed some light. I am having a hard time remembering those details. However it's gone from Netflix now so it will be harder to find it.
As for the creativity - she took the time & put in the effort to do something I've not seen anyone else do w/the situation. JMO
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Maybe that's because it's kind of a high school thing to do. Why even waste your time doing it? Sorry, but I still think that mocking is more like something the "haters" would do. It's her choice to do whatever she wants to do with Kate, but personally, I would have said, hey, what's done is done, and not bring it up again. She came out on top when this whole thing went down, and all this does is to resurrect it and even if she is not holding a grudge, it could be interpreted that way, I think it's petty...but that's just me! Obviously I'm in the minority, but that's nothing new!
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#Kateplusmy8 I love when ppl tweet certain episodes of trips kids on. THEY HAVENT GONE ANYWHERE IN THE 2 1/2 yrs SINCE.WTH
When was that trip to the Gulf Shores -- the one that was rumored to have been provided by Milo (Relax on the Beach)? I thought that was in the summer of 2012. Was it longer ago than that?
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We've been saying this for years.
The kids need to split up and get away from everything, including both their parents.
Camp is so wonderful, and while having a nice pool is great and all, it seems to be pretty much all the kids do all summer long-- with each other.
I'm betting that Jon and Liz would support a fun week at camp for each kid who wants to go.
It's time to split the kids up. It's just not healthy to be corralled together like they are.
And no, school does NOT count.
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I think they need more then a week away. If TFW stopped spending all of the kids money on herself then she could easily afford to send each child to a 6 week summer session. She would also get a 6 week break from the kids so its a win win situation. I dont think that each kid needs to go to a different summer camp. Most camps will put siblings in different cabins.
I love tweets like this:
Chrystal @akachrystal 9m
@Kateplusmy8 I'm making your Cheesy Tuna Pockets and it doesn't say if the tuna should be drained or not. Does it need the moisture?
And another one:
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 4m
@Kateplusmy8 do you know where I can buy your books all together???
The big announcement!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8m
Finally!Most of #BeKindGetSigned books are signed&labeled! Who will find #LoveIsInTheMix at their door? #Any1sguess pic.twitter.com/fXwpIIhU7K
Hallelujah! Finally! Perhaps she got tired of Milo communicatin' with her through her "other means" and telling her she really needs to get that contest done...that people were a-grumblin' about it!
Did you see the epis with the bf from Kansas, was it- where Farrah was so rude and demanding, and almost proposed to the poor guy who bailed.
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Daniel, Farrah's ex- boyfriend (?) will be on a future episode of Couple's Therapy. He gets to tell her what a rude person she is. This is what I've been waiting for.
Over And Out said... 158
The big announcement!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8m
Finally!Most of #BeKindGetSigned books are signed&labeled! Who will find #LoveIsInTheMix at their door? #Any1sguess pic.twitter.com/fXwpIIhU7K
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Oh, isn't that precious. No way of knowing whether anyone got one. A few fake tweets and you're all set. SMH
PJ
Jeanne, thank you for answering the parking space question!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8m
Finally!Most of #BeKindGetSigned books are signed&labeled! Who will find #LoveIsInTheMix at their door? #Any1sguess pic.twitter.com/fXwpIIhU7K
Finally? Most? Too difficult to just do it ALL after 7 weeks?
I find I do not care. At all.
(Leslie)
Kate has "gained" hundreds/thousands of followers in the past few weeks. But I noticed that she has not gained one follower in the past many days. Not one. This is proof is buys her followers. Why would she gain hundreds in a few days but not one person has signed up in the past week. It makes no sense especially with Jon being on CT. She has been at 190,000 for a while. She must be tired of buying fake followers.
#Any1sguess
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You got that right. It's anyone's guess when this darn not-a-contest ends and when the winners will be announced.
Or, is Kate implying that she's not going to announce anything and that some random folks will be receiving her book, time unknown?
Speaking of twitter followers, I'm reading tweets about the college football player for Missouri (Michael Sam) who will probably enter the NFL draft and just announced he's gay. A first for the NFL. I went to his twitter account and the number of followers are increasing at a high rate every time I refresh. It's cool to see.....5K to 11K in 15 minutes. Good for him. No more hiding.....
Anon. Leslie,
I agree about the TCFW buying her twit bots in bulk! Allison Arngrim who played Nellie Olesen on LHOTP only has 21.5K followers. You would think she would have much much more than that!
And for a almost 39 year old leather faced, botoxed, mean heifer that physically and mentally abuses her children and animals has Almost 200,000 THOUSAND FOLLOWERS? NO WAY, JOSE!
She is totally wasting money that could of paid for the kids to go to camp for 6 weeks this summer just on those twitter bots alone. She is crazy and cruel.
I know deep down they are not going to do anything to TCFW even if they do investigate her for contest fraud. I just was thinking that would be funny to see her face the music just for once!
Buffering...that's it...Buffering. lol I love that!
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 4m
@Kateplusmy8 do you know where I can buy your books all together???
Forget the books. Kate doesn't have it all together.
Speaking of medical records and privacy and HIPAA, I was confronted by a RN on Thursday who I have known in the hospital who would occasionally dialyze me there. I thought she was good as gold in the beginning. She was a Church of God lady, hair up in a bun, nurses skirt below the knees, white hose, orthopedic nurses shoes and a mean streak that I didn't see in the beginning, but it slowly came out to me one day.
I hadn't had hardly any food in several days and I was in the hospital and I hadn't ate my supper from the night before. I took my breakfast with me to the treatment room. She saw me with the food and just walked by like a robot and was talking like one and said, You are not suppose to eat! It will go to your stomach and all of your blood will go there and your BP will drop, blah blah blah. And she was walking as she was talking. I felt awful. And I told her that I had not ate and I had a headache and I was going to eat. Then she threatened to call the dr. I said, Ok. I just ignored her.
Then she starts working at the new clinic where I am now. We have had 3 incidents and the last one really upset me. All of a sudden she stood at the foot of my chair and in front of staff, everybody talking loud, talked about my problems, my health problems, exactly what was going on, private things, and I just sit there hooked up to the machine stunned.
I would of taken it much much better for my RN who is the FA (Faciltity Admin) because he is kind compassionate and responsible for me losing so much weight! He would of sat down on a stool and got close to me and talked where no one could here. I thought he was not there that day, but I talked to him Sat. and he was there, and
one of the techs went back and told him about it while it was going on and unfortunately, he was not able to come out and shut the witch up.
She even came up to me while I was on the gurney fixing to go out the door and I couldn't even look at her and she was rubbing my forearm and saying, I wuzzant trying to be ugly. I think she knows she messed up. FA is going to talk to her about it. I hope he fires her. I told FA that she blew my HIPAA manual out of the water. With Buckshot!
One of my ambulance buddies C, calls her Mother Teresa. I said please don't do that to Mother Teresa, she was exceptional! I call her a COG (Church of God). When we roll in the big doors, when I see her I say, Good Lord, COG is here!
Well, I guess it is better than, Lordy Bee, it's TCWF from Reality TEEVEE!
I love the picture with this tweet - @hockeymom9598: I think Mr Cosby was thinking of you &your postings of ur 8s privacy on twitter K8, take responsibility @Kateplusmy8 pic.twitter.com/riTAk5xrtH
And here's TFW's answer to the person that asked about draining the tuna - @Kateplusmy8: @akachrystal drained! Sorry. Little misses happen in every book :/ unfortunately! Enjoy! I almost made them w chicken tonight! Yum!
Um, no little misses don't usually happen in cookbooks because when it's not self published the recipies are tested, proofed and tested again.
Last time I noticed her follows on twitter, they were under 25,000 (not too long ago) and milo was busy pimping trying to get her more.
Since so many people on twitter are fake, I think advertisers have gotten wise and quit paying for mentions.
What is the point of a tweet like this and why include Evan Lysacek and Citi in the tweet? Both the non fans and fans never cease to amaze me.
@Xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 @EvanLysacek @Citi Since UR childless this weekend Ydon'tU meet Steve/fav hotel N town or no more Steve b/c UR tweeting EVAN?
I wonder after Katy Perry's satanic concert on the Grammy's if her twitter account was for real. It went up from, idk to over 50 million. I wonder if a large percentage of them are twitter bots. I find it hard to believe. I wonder if it was planned to buy them and add them along before, during and after the concert.
People on twitter need to start asking who the winners were and what their stories were...
People on twitter need to start asking who the winners were and what their stories were...
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What if you lost? Will she announce that she's let the winners know they won and thank you everyone else for entering?
Or do you just have to check your mailbox every single afternoon for the next two weeks hoping you see a book....
I noticed her twitter followers jumped up around the day of the Today show fiasco.
Or do you just have to check your mailbox every single afternoon for the next two weeks hoping you see a book....
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Excellent point. Those who entered now have to wait and wait...when will they figure they didn't win and how long does one wait for their winnings? Kate is such a freaking idiot and thoughtless beyond words.
Interesting that those who think Em Tanner's 'picture' is just fine. Yet Deanna can't say anything NICE about Kate for "fear that future clients won't like that".
I don't know If Em Tanner is still in business or not but she also mentioned she kept all her emails from Kate and was going to expose them.
Hardly a professional behaviour. Calling the kids 'brats' is simply cruel.
Deanna AND Em Tanner need to step back. Neither behaviour looks good to future clients. I would never hire Deanna and I certainly will never buy anything from Tanner. Heaven forbid I have a problem with the order and have to email her.
Em wrote a letter a very long time ago saying she was taking a step back from her business. I got the impression she was passing it off to her partner. No one mentioned her being careful of clients because she said herself she's not doing it anymore. That said the concern with Deanna was celebrity clients who value being discreet. Em's clients were rarely celebs. They were you and me and I could care less if she wants to make fun of a celeb or whether she's discreet.
Or do you just have to check your mailbox every single afternoon for the next two weeks hoping you see a book....
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Kate said that MOST of the books were signed an labeled, but who knows how long it will be before she actually sends them out?
At the rate she does things, it might be a month or more before anyone actually receives their prize.
They were you and me and I could care less if she wants to make fun of a celeb or whether she's discreet.
Fair enough. Why do you care that Deanna does it then? They're both the same behaviour. Tactless and unprofessional.
Hardly a professional behaviour. Calling the kids 'brats' is simply cruel.
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I agree that both of them need to take a step back, especially if Em ever considers getting back into the business. I thought she was just taking a hiatus, but I'm not sure about that. However, calling the kids "brats," as I interpreted it, was supposedly Kate calling them that, as indicated in the title. Even so, if it was meant to be just that, I didn't think it was appropriate, but it was her decision to take that cover and rework it. It was her choice, and so be it.
Excellent point. Those who entered now have to wait and wait...when will they figure they didn't win and how long does one wait for their winnings? Kate is such a freaking idiot and thoughtless beyond words.
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Will she say when they were mailed, or will Milo have to tell her to put out the notice on Twitter? If they're not mailed for two weeks, and she doesn't announce when they are mailed, those winners may be waiting a long time.
I don't care what Deanna tweets lol. However if she wants a career doing celebrity makeup she has a lot to learn.
laura @adidasqt6 47m
@Kateplusmy8 if u make another cookbook make the binding different! Please and thank u! doesnt stay open!!
LOL!! I'm sure Kate will make that a priority when she publishes her next cookbook! Don't worry about if its plagiarized, or if the photos match up with the recipes, or if the instructions are clear, or how many she can sell...just make sure that the darn binding stays open!
Admin, here is a link to CT. You will have to look for the episode you want for this season.
http://www.vh1.com/video/couples-therapy/full-episodes/player-for-life/1721491/playlist.jhtml
And here's TFW's answer to the person that asked about draining the tuna - @Kateplusmy8: @akachrystal drained! Sorry. Little misses happen in every book :/ unfortunately! Enjoy! I almost made them w chicken tonight! Yum!
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Sad but true, will never get how she says"YUM" today when Kate clearly has been eating salads for years!
The YUM factor is getting old!
I don't care what Deanna tweets lol. However if she wants a career doing celebrity makeup she has a lot to learn.
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Aw, admin, she's still wet behind the ears. Give her a chance. She'll grow up sooner or later.
Milo tweeted that she could understand why Deanna and Kate are best friends. Yeah, I think most of us can.
Kate said that MOST of the books were signed an labeled, but who knows how long it will be before she actually sends them out?
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I think that she's stalling, still trying to figure out what to do about the absence of the contest rules.
Long time lurker said... 178
Interesting that those who think Em Tanner's 'picture' is just fine. Yet Deanna can't say anything NICE about Kate for "fear that future clients won't like that".
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I differentiate between Deanna, who I believe is still actively pursuing a career in celebrity make-up (or whatever it may be called). vs Em Tanner who had a little website where she sold various items. I think Em isn't even pursuing that small business angle anymore. One of the two wants to work with celebrities and the other once donated items to a D-lister and otherwise is not pursuing an online business anymore.
Also, Em didn't call the twins "brats." Her snark was in combining both the use of phrases Kate actually used ("spit it out") and what Em (and many others) perceived as the unspoken words in Kate's own mind.
Deanna will not go far in the entertainment field as a celebrity make-up artist if she continues with her strange attachment to and defense of the much-disliked WOS. By interjecting into Kate's business and getting involved in silly Twitter spats, it just emphasizes that Deanna's not quite professional grade material.
Lukebandit: I'm glad you spoke to the FA about the nurse that spoke so loudly about your medical issues that others could easily overhear. This is certainly not okay and hopefully it will not happen again.
One time at the dentist's office, the dentist came out to the waiting room where I was sitting (with some other people who were waiting to be seen) and asked in front of them what I had decided regarding my son and getting braces. I just looked at her and quietly said I preferred not to discuss my business in front of others. She blushed and apologized. Even professionals sometimes forget professionalism. Hopefully a reminder to this nurse will stick.
"Most" of the books are signed.
"Any1sguess" who won.
"almost" made Cheesy Tuna Pockets w chicken.
I'll give her this much. She's consistently duplicitous and infallibly lazy.
I normally don't really look at people's followers on Twitter, but I was curious and took a look at the first thousand or so... I'd say, off the top, probably 2 out of every 10 was a fake account... at least... and that was just a rough look.
Leslie:
I checked Kate's followers with a website I use for Twitter.
Fake
24%
Inactive
51%
Good
25%
75% are worthless!
Eh, I liked EM's snarky take on the crookbook title. I think it's no different then some of the snarky things JibberJabber ? is that her title ? makes. EM isn't a trinket maker for the rich and famous she's a small business woman that got used and abused by the horrid WOS.
I'm glad someone is going to get Jon to pay attention that Liz is being the same disrespectful twitch that TFW was, if she doesn't change her behavior he needs to pack up and move on to a woman that knows how to be respectful partner.
(Leslie)
"Most" of the books are signed.
"Any1sguess" who won.
"almost" made Cheesy Tuna Pockets w chicken.
I'll give her this much. She's consistently duplicitous and infallibly lazy.
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Amen, AuntieAnn
Let us keep an eye on Kate's number of followers. Like I said it has been at 190,000 for probably a week. Let's see if the numbers go up something reasonable like 1 or 2 a day (a # realistic) instead of a big number (a paid #) a day. It will be interesting to follow.
Also her following took huge jumps when she went on the Today and View recently. But when you see all the people who tweet her it is mainly the same ones over and over. Just a few new names that are not familiar ones. You would like these hundreds or thousands of new followers would be tweeting her.
Long time lurker said... 178
Interesting that those who think Em Tanner's 'picture' is just fine. Yet Deanna can't say anything NICE about Kate for "fear that future clients won't like that".
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Kate hasn't screwed over Deanna publicly (as of yet), hasn't claimed that she's using Kate's name (yet she's got Kate and her kids' photos on her website) and as far as we know, hasn't given Kate her time and labor against the clock FOR FREE.
Remember, this is when Kate was relatively unknown, so don't tell me it was a tacit quid pro quo.
Em wanted to help a mom with twins and 6 HOM's, period.
File that one under "no good deed goes unpunished".
Besides that, what grown-ass (almost) 40-year old woman would allow a young associate to take up sides for her. If I were in Kate's position, I'd kindly thank Deanna for her loyalty and ask her to to refrain from getting mired in my business.
I don't need a mouthpiece, but evidently, Kate does.
I agree that both of them need to take a step back, especially if Em ever considers getting back into the business. I thought she was just taking a hiatus, but I'm not sure about that. However, calling the kids "brats," as I interpreted it, was supposedly Kate calling them that, as indicated in the title. Even so, if it was meant to be just that, I didn't think it was appropriate, but it was her decision to take that cover and rework it. It was her choice, and so be it.
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Kate's never called her children ATM's, but you know damn well that's how she views them.
Em is describing Kate's thought bubble.
I'd love to see her thought bubbles during that Today interview!
I do not think that Em is calling the twins brats, at all. Not at all.
What that subtitle describes is nothing that we have not seen FOR YEARS.
Those kids are refusing to perform, which we've predicted would happen, so yeah, I imagine there are many things like brats/ingrates/subversives! in the subtext.
Meagler said... 174
People on twitter need to start asking who the winners were and what their stories were...
February 9, 2014 at 6:57 PM
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I, and I'm sure most, assumed that these "acts of kindness" would be shared as an inspirational story for the "masses".
If Kate just says that she's signed books and sent them out without any disclosure about who won and why they won, that's boloney!
Hey, lady, I rescued 6 kittens, paid off a family's Walmart Christmas layaway, helped 23 old ladies cross the road, gave lollipops to 14 crying kids and solved world hunger!
Where's my book?
(Leslie)
"Most" of the books are signed.
"Any1sguess" who won.
"almost" made Cheesy Tuna Pockets w chicken.
I'll give her this much. She's consistently duplicitous and infallibly lazy.
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So many words, so little meaning...
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