This got us thinking, what are some other historical publicity stunts that backfired? Here are five of some of the biggest:
Aqua Teen terrorist attack.
O.J. Simpson,
In 2006, HarperCollins's thought it would be a good idea to publish a book written by O.J. entitled "If I Did It." Following the public's outrage, a big wig at the publishing company was fired and the project was scrapped.
A train wreck, literally.
In 1896, railroad companies decided to stage a controlled crash in Texas for publicity. With thousands of spectators watching, the trains collided head on as planned, but then unexpectedly exploded, killing three people and injuring countless others, including the event's photographer, who lost one of his eyes.
No Fly Zone.
In 2009, the Department of Defense flew Air Force One low over Manhattan to take some photos. The flight terrified many New Yorkers, causing "mayhem" as people who thought we were under attack again scrambled to evacuate. A White House aide resigned, authorities apologized and cancelled a similar photoshoot planned in D.C.
Please stop. Sincerely, Mr. President.
Harry Reichenbach was a big time press agent at the turn of the 20th century who promoted films like Return of Tarzan. He staged several outlandish publicity stunts, including a fake suicide, and a kidnapping to Mexico. His antics finally resulted in President Woodrow Wilson writing him a letter pleading with him to please stop his nonsense.
Where will Kate's blunder rank in history? Will Obama write to her asking her to please stop? Heh, never say never! What other publicity blunders would you add to this list?
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What other publicity blunders would you add to this list?
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Orson Welles, War of the Worlds radio broadcast, 1938, Mercury Theatre On the Air. Not sure if it was for publicity, but rather a Halloween spoof, but it certainly did cause mass pandemonium, including attempted suicides, heart attacks, people fleeing their homes in the panic that ensued.
His antics finally resulted in President Woodrow Wilson writing him a letter pleading with him to please stop his nonsense.
Where will Kate's blunder rank in history? Will Obama write to her asking her to please stop?
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I can just see it now:
Ring, ring...
Kate: Huge sigh, "Hello" in a very exasperated voice.
Prez: Hello, Ms. Gosselin?
Kate: Pop, cracking of gum, ummmm, who is this? I have 8 kids!!!!! I'm busy.
Pres: This is Pres Obama.
Kate: Pressobama? NO!! I'm not going to be a spokesperson for whatever that is...unless I get 50% commission!! Ab Champ was a huge bust for me!!
Prez: No, President Barak Obama!
Kate: And.....? huge sigh, foot tapping in background. By the way, Michelle NEVER got back to me about my healthy food programs we should be working on together. Doesn't she know who I am?
Prez: Ms. Gosselin, I'm calling on behalf of this great country of ours and all its' citizens. We.don't.care.about.your.problems. voice rising...Not.one.bit. Have you heard of Syria, Ms. Gosselin?
Kate: Is she one of the new contestants on DWTS? I hope she gets Tony and he drags HER all over the floor!!!
Interesting post.
Here's an tweet from TFMJG's Philly lawyer:
Jordan Rushie @JRushie 28 Aug
SLAPP suits? In MY #Philly? It's more likely than you think. @Philadelinquent http://www.philadelinquency.com/?p=3361
I guess he would know (being a Philly lawyer and all:)
Lalalalala said... 159
You're brave.
My father was an abusive drunk with anger issues. I'm glad my mom escaped him when she did.
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Bad publicity stunts how about the white house crashers?
I thought that was pretty stupid.
Oh another publicity stunt from TFW her crying broke on the today show.
President Clinton on national t.v., looking straight into the camera, and saying that he did not have sexual relations with that woman (Monica Lewinsky).
Kate's latest bog, August 29, 2013:
What started out as a mission to find the source(s) of excessive internet bullying and hate directed towards me — proportions of hate that have led to an extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception of me and occurrences in my life — has ended with the filling of this lawsuit. It is a lawsuit that I feel is necessary in order to protect myself and my children both now and in the future.
My hope is that this process may also give others the courage to seek out and stand up against brazen and damaging “faceless” internet bullies and hold them accountable for their actions. The saddest part of this situation is the fact that the investigation to identify the source and those responsible for orchestrating this barrage of hate for their own financial gain, has ended where it has and with the individuals named in the court documents. At the beginning of this investigation I made the decision to take legal action against those found to be responsible and see no reason to change this decision now that the investigation has revealed those responsible are unfortunately so close to home.
Geraldo Rivera, opening that empty vault.
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@Kateplusmy8 I just realized...we have kids pic of 1st school day...but where is urs?? #MomKate in jammies hugging her 1st cup of coffee :)
Milo wants a picture of Kate in her pajamas. Good lord.
"Balloon Boy comes to mind immediately. Another "reality show" blunder."
Yeah, I always had the funny feeling that Balloon Boy's father just might be TFW's unnown long lost brother. They are absolutely so similar, i.e. not thinking beyond their nose, for one thing. Both of them seem to react to "Oh, shiny...! Me want. Now."
Oh, and Lalalalala? Big hug...
President Clinton on national t.v., looking straight into the camera, and saying that he did not have sexual relations with that woman (Monica Lewinsky).
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Whatever happened to that blue dress?
Anthony Wiener all his past scandals yuck.
@Kateplusmy8 I just realized...we have kids pic of 1st school day...but where is urs?? #MomKate in jammies hugging her 1st cup of coffee :)
Milo wants a picture of Kate in her pajamas. Good lord.
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Actually, fair is fair. If the kids have to pose for exploitation photos at 6 in the morning so should TFW, no sleep and all.
Tweet, hahahhahaa.
All these great stunts, I love it! My grandfather was a little boy and heard the Orson Wells broadcast. He told me the story. They were seriously scared. I mean out of their minds scared. People were running around, praying, crying. His father said they should go evacuate to the lake, and my grandfather, the little boy, said "what good what that do, dad?" LOL! They didn't mean to, but it was awful what they put those listeners through.
The publicity stunt that broke my heart:
PAUL IS DEAD!
Stunt gone wrong....Janet Jackson nipplegate at the Super Bowl. The network was fined for the exposure.
What? She's totally lost it. Huh? What does a lawsuit have ANYTHING to do with internet bullies? No one even knew this was happening but she, Robert and Jon and perhaps their friends! The internet was completely out of the equation. What does allegedly "stealing" discs have anything to do with "bullying"? Collecting information to defend yourself in a terrible divorce is "bullying"?
Protect the children from WHAT? I'd rather the children learn that if their future spouse is trying to bury them in a divorce and take your kids, you should have the courage to fight back no matter what it takes. I hope the children also learn that a marriage is 50-50 until the divorce is filed, and you have EVERY RIGHT to collect information, electronics and documents that at YOURS no matter how much the other person whines about it. Take them, they are YOURS.
"My hope"? MY hope, Kate, is that you get the help that you desperately need.
No exclamation marks. She didn't write that. She couldn't write that coherently if her life depended on it.
What? She's totally lost it. Huh? What does a lawsuit have ANYTHING to do with internet bullies? No one even knew this was happening but she, Robert and Jon and perhaps their friends! The internet was completely out of the equation. What does allegedly "stealing" discs have anything to do with "bullying"? Collecting information to defend yourself in a terrible divorce is "bullying"?
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Exactly. That was my first thought when I read it. What in the world is she talking about? I re-read it and am still confused. I thought she was addressing the class action lawsuit and BV's outings and the alleged harassing on Twitter.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 32m
@Kateplusmy8 I just realized...we have kids pic of 1st school day...but where is urs?? #MomKate in jammies hugging her 1st cup of coffee :)
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Why do you want to see KK in her PJ's??
The funniest one was the fictional WKRP in Cincinnati TV show, where they decided to give away live Turkeys by doing them from a helicopter! The station manager didn't know that Turkeys can't fly. PR disaster and hilarity ensued!
Big real life example from politics. After hurricane Katrina, president Bush had news conference with head of FEMA to say what a great job he was doing. While Anderson Cooper was broadcasting New Orleans survivors begging for help.
Melissa, she's starting to sound REALLY irrational at this point. Really irrational. I fear for the kids but truly, I fear for her. She really is tying it together. She's saying this started as a quest to find the bullies who made me look bad (THEE Elizabeth Vargas confirms YOU made yourself look bad Kate, YOU) and the result of that investigation was that Jon and Robert were guilty. WHAT???? There are two separate things going on here, this petty dispute about the book and the bullying. They're not the same thing at all. How could you possibly correlate the two??
Oh by the way someone said yesterday this would have no bearing on custody and I agree 1,000 percent.
The courts are no stranger to petty divorce squabbles and this is NOTHING new. There is no way on God's green earth custody would be changed over a dispute over a hard drive. No way. This is what court's see every day and much worse, disputes over a car, a house, a pen a pencil. If Kate wants to cook up some domestic violence or god forbid sexual abuse, then custody might be altered. But for this kind of dispute, no way.
All this time and all Jon's gotten is MORE custody, not less. And he just said in that interview he's even going to go for an additional night during the week now too. That's what's freaking her out. I think she's worried he is slowly but surely stripping her day by day of custody and she's worried it will get out of hand. Perhaps a phone call to him to discuss it like adults would be better instead of making an utter fool of herself. God forbid they actually compromise on this for once.
If her goal was to protect the children, filing this petty lawsuit is not going to do a darn thing to change custody. If anything, I'd be careful if I were her--it makes her look rather unstable ranting and raving about a silly harddrive and protecting her children. Judges have heard this song and dance before MANY TIMES and if you do it too much without REAL evidence of children at risk, all of a sudden you're the one begging for custody.
Attorney James Peidemonte says this about obsessed parental alienation (his CV is massive with countless intensive trainings on parental alienation and the like, and 30 years of experience in messy divorce cases): "They have an unquenchable anger because they believe that the targeted parent has victimized them and whatever they do to protect the children is justified."
All these great stunts, I love it! My grandfather was a little boy and heard the Orson Wells broadcast. He told me the story. They were seriously scared. I mean out of their minds scared. People were running around, praying, crying. His father said they should go evacuate to the lake, and my grandfather, the little boy, said "what good what that do, dad?" LOL! They didn't mean to, but it was awful what they put those listeners through.
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I watched a documentary last night on the alien autopsy at Roswell, examining the validity of the film, type of equipment used, various iinterviews with filmakers, Cyril Wecht...debating the fact vs. fiction thing. Excellent!
TFW's newest bog piece is a piece all right. I won't say of what because I don't use foul language.
I may have missed comments about this but I see that Robert has a new post up.
So the lawsuit she talked about filing four years ago has WHAT to do with Twitter and RWA?
Good luck suing your haters who you encouraged by thanking them for the 'buzz' and dedicating your marathon to.
I can't believe her attorney would advise her to make such a statement. It's outrageous. And she basically blew her case wide open by making it obvious she's just out to try to mess with custody and nothing else. If she fears for her children so darn much, how come the cops didn't fear for them and help her out with this?
Poor Kim Weiss. Get out HCI, get out. No really, I think HCI needs to bail at this point. This is way too out of control right now. They publish books on God and parenting.
In response to Kate's blog post:
Hey TFW....guess what??? NO ONE ORCHESTRATED MY DISGUST FOR YOU! !
I live in your community. I see how you treat people and glare at people. I have seen it first hand. I hear it all the time about how rude, selfish, obnoxious and generally demanding YOU are! You did this to yourself. Jon and Robert didn't conspire with the THOUSANDS of people who know your true nature - (check out the responses on the articles over the past two weeks, or Quilted Northern toilet paper fiasco where the comments against you were scathing from a couple of years ago). Get over yourself and get off your high horse.
Sincerely,
A BERKS NEIGHBOR
By talking about her internet haters she's all but admitting it's a SLAPP suit. Good job, TFMJG
Yes she's admitting it's a SLAPP suit and making a ridiculous statement that everyone painted this horribly false picture of her. BAD MOVE. Except, when you're a public figure viewers are allowed to make whatever picture we want based on what we see that you put out there. Soo, SLAPP suit. SLAPP. Her attorneys are probably scrambling right now. Red alert red alert!
Shouldn't she be busy listening to the children about their second day of school and spending what little time she has with them instead of manically writing more incriminating blog posts?
And since I watched the show all by myself while waiting for the Bar results and never went on the internet to discuss it until much later, I formed my opinions about all this FIRST, by myself, with my only help being Kate HERSELF. The reason I sought out the internet in the first place is to see if anyone couldn't stand her as much as I did. It's not a chicken or egg argument. I know exactly what came first. I couldn't stand her FIRST, THEN I went to see if others felt the same. Bam! Robert or Jon had absolutely nothing to do with my opinions. Years later, the book simply confirmed them, that is all.
Get over yourself and get off your high horse.
Sincerely,
A BERKS NEIGHBOR
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Amen. She is insufferable. Absolutely insufferable. I am so very sorry that this is what the children have for a mother. My heart just breaks for them. They will never have peace until they are some day, many years from now, writing her obituary. What will it say? Kate might think about that sometime.
This, on a website she shares with her 8. This, alongside photos of her children, their artwork and family "traditions."
This whole RWA thing was really about finding out if Robert and Jon were posting on RWA. The outings were just for fun. It would have been easy to find IPs without outing everyone who posted.
I thought she was addressing the class action lawsuit and BV's outings and the alleged harassing on Twitter.
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That's what I thought too!! LOL I thought maybe this was phase two of her manically mentally ill plan, suing the haters. I thought oh wow she's actually gonna do it huh!
Instead she brings it back around to Jon and Robert? HUH???
Medication, therapy, an intervention. Something here has to help.
Let me guess, sure enough they WEREN'T posting on RWA at all.
Melissa, she's starting to sound REALLY irrational at this point. Really irrational.
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Absolutely, admin. Absolutely. There's something very wrong there. She's digging herself deeper into that proverbial hole. It's like she's seeing to it that this whole thing is taking on a life of its own.
What she is talking about is unclear. I'm not even sure SHE knows what she's talking about. In a circuitous way, she's confirming her alignment to BV.
Best to have said nothing at all. This is just so bizarre. I'm trying to figure out her reason to make any kind of statement, and I'm coming up empty. All this has done is muddy the water.
Quite obviously, you can't herd cats. My advice, Kim Weiss? Tuck tail and runnnnnnn!
Where in the lawsuit is the internet or bullying mentioned? Having an opinion about a celeb is protected speech. What the hell is wrong with her?
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By talking about her internet haters she's all but admitting it's a SLAPP suit. Good job, TFMJG
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You're 100% correct.
I was going to say more, but I'm admittedly flabbergasted at how her remarks on her blog have nothing in the least to do with the wording of the lawsuit...I'm without words...or maybe I have so many I can't type fast enough.
The way it reads, she seems to be implying she considered dropping the whole thing.
"and see no reason to change this decision now that the investigation has revealed those responsible are unfortunately so close to home."
Unless she is simply responding to ALL THE PEOPLE who urged her to just drop this. And telling them f-u I don't see any reason to drop it.
I see a reason Kate. Eight little faces. The media is going to go nuts again. Jon and Robert still being quiet and normal, Kate still pacing around in circles like a lunatic muttering to herself about bullies and protecting her children. This should be funny but mostly I'm just sad and scared for the kids. I don't often say this, actually I don't think I ever have, but I'm praying for them now.
— proportions of hate that have led to an extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception of me and occurrences in my life —
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Ahhh. Spoken like a true narcissist. "this is all YOUR fault".
"What? She's totally lost it. Huh? What does a lawsuit have ANYTHING to do with internet bullies?"
Oh, phew! I tought I was the one loosing it when I couldn't make any sense or find any logic in what she was wrote on her blog. She's drunk. On kickapoo joy juice. Or something.
So we painted a false picture of her by saying she abused her kids?
My first witnesses: Nannies 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10...
I can't blame the sheep now for being confused. No wonder they're still talking about bullying lawsuits and criminal cases, Kate has completely confused them again talking about all kinds of things that have NOTHING to do with this lawsuit.
Maybe that's what she's trying to do, convincing them the whole class action thing is actually this thing so they don't feel left so high and dry. Which they totally were.
She USED her fans just to get to Jon, period. That's all that entire thing was, a way to get to JON. We called this AGES AGO. I wonder what it feels like to be so used by your celebrity.
lalalalala -- Thank you for having the courage, and trusting the posters here enough, to tell your story. I know you've heard it before, but I'm going to say it again -- YOUuu DID NOTHING WRONG. The fault wasn't in you, it was in those who abused you. God bless you for being able to break the cycle and raise your own children in love. Hugs.
Failed PR -- How about "W"'s "Mission Accomplished".
formerly Readerlady
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 17
''What? She's totally lost it. Huh? What does a lawsuit have ANYTHING to do with internet bullies?''
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What just jumps out for me is that TFMJG seems to be attempting to muddy up the SOL. She seems to be linking her dealing with bullyville and her 'discovery' that Robert and Jon are responsible. As usual, she totally forgot that she 'discovered' the so called ''orchestrating this barrage of hate for their own financial gain'' years ago.
OR, maybe the key words are ''their own financial gain''...she fears that Robert may make money on the re-release of his book may make money, and we all know that NO ONE is allowed to make a penny from her/her children except TFMJG!
I think TFW is getting way too much backlash from media types for her actions and she frantically trying to backpedal and make excuses for her irrational behavior. Obviously no one cares to interview her so she needs to 'set the record straight' on her blog.
She is so far underwater now that I'm not sure she'll ever recover her image. Her frantic posting on twitter coincides with the timing of the blog post. She's trying so hard to redeem herself, however it's not going to work because she only regularly tweets her most ardent sheeple and she leaves out so many who try to reach out to her.
This is such a tragedy for those kids to have to go through, especially on the first week of school.
Speaking of nannies, I wonder who that brave nanny was who FIRST disclosed this abuse. Ashley? The Asian one who was there awhile? Someone we don't know? Because let's get our Gosselin history here correct, the first ever person to reveal the abuse, including Kate's alcohol abuse, was a lowly little nanny. I'm proud of her. She was probably some 20 year old kid and she was brave enough to tell her story and say this was NOT RIGHT.
No offense to Robert, but some 20 year old girl had the guts to reveal this first. It's just most people didn't take it seriously (we did.)
So my point being, how come Kate isn't suing HER? The nanny? The one who probably broke a confidentiality agreement to try to report it?
Because it's all...about...JON and she does not care one bit about anyone else or what they did or said and she sure doesn't care one bit about any of her fans who may have been hurt throughout this mess. Whatever, as long as it gets her to the end game, terminating Jon's parental rights, that's all she cares about.
I think TFW is getting way too much backlash from media types for her actions and she frantically trying to backpedal and make excuses for her irrational behavior.
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As always she thinks if she can just take control and explain things, people will understand.
This is when being a control freak bites you in the a$$. When has this EVER worked for her? This just made it worse. What an idiot, truly.
She USED her fans just to get to Jon, period. That's all that entire thing was, a way to get to JON.
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Yes, admin, but how is she tying the two together? I'm trying to figure out her reasoning. Is she saying that it was because of Robert's book (and Jon's alleged role in helping him) that all the hate began, and thus she had to enlist BV's forces to take down the haters? Is that why she is going after Jon...because the harassment on Twitter is as a result of Robert's book...and all of it is HIS fault?
I wonder if I'd understand it better if I had a double Rumspringa?
"...proportions of hate that have led to an extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception of me and occurrences in my life..."
I don't understand this AT ALL. The 'inaccurate public perception' of Kate was well under way long before this book came out.
I'm not understanding how she can't take ANY responsibility at all for how the public perceives her.
She can't honestly think everyone loved her before Robert came on the scene. CAN SHE??
That RV episode alone, not to mention the Sarah Palin episode, buried her!
Kate, the only source of my disgust for you is the person you admire in the mirror every day.
Go sue yourself.
My first witnesses: Nannies 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1
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...followed by the TLC film crew
Do you think Kate is talking about Robert's count down blog or his tweets to her? Maybe she thinks that Robert and/or Jon were posting on RWA?
I was going to say more, but I'm admittedly flabbergasted at how her remarks on her blog have nothing in the least to do with the wording of the lawsuit...I'm without words...or maybe I have so many I can't type fast enough.
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LOL, Tweet-le! Passing you some virtual Rumspringa. It might not help, but it sure isn't going to hurt!
Melissa it can't be tied together because it's not rational. But we can try.
She does appear to be saying Robert and Jon caused all this, which even she knows is pure malarky! Malarky!
Robert came onto the scene at the 11th hour, ages and ages upon ages and ages after all the "hate" if she would prefer to call it that was already there. I don't know how to get this through her thick head but none of us had the foggiest notion who he was or what he was doing and he had no bearing on how we felt about her. The only thing he did was provide her own words to confirm what we have said all along. People have been crying child abuse since the beginning of time with this family, we saw all the signs of it. People were crying it so hard and loud I HAD TO DELETE SOME COMMENTS and you know what Kate? I'm SORRY I DID THAT. I should have left every single stinking one about child abuse.
I guess she conveniently forgets that many people were none too happy with JON either while he was exploiting the kids. There has been tons of "hate" thrown his way from all sides until he finally did the right thing and put his foot down. The entire family was chased down because people knew exploiting the children was wrong. She has got to be joking with this post.
The defense calls Ms. Jenn Stocks.
The one thing Razzmatazz rails against is SLAPP suits and his client just admitted she's instituted one with his help.
That's funny.
No exclamation marks. She didn't write that. She couldn't write that coherently if her life depended on it.
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No attorney would write that. No rational person would write that.
I think no exclamation marks is her indication that this is "serious Kate" right now so listen up. Listen close because you will understand when you read this.
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Speaking of nannies, I wonder who that brave nanny was who FIRST disclosed this abuse
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Maybe it was the Kate look-alike nanny.
Melissa NV said:
LOL, Tweet-le! Passing you some virtual Rumspringa. It might not help, but it sure isn't going to hurt!
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What are you, psychic? LOL I just this instant made myself a wee vodka/oj to calm the urge to "shriek" in utter disbelief.
I can't believe her attorney would advise her to make such a statement. It's outrageous.
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But, admin, they wrote it. She's not capable of writing like that. Witness her manic tweeting about the first day at the bus stop and how the kids have growed (sic). That's her writing. The statement clearly is not, and I'd bet the farm and all of the sheep on it. Someone on her legal team is responsible.
Remember when some of the JK+8 crew members left because there were some things they found
objectionable? I would call them as witnesses #11-15.
It sounds like her manner of speaking although I never recall her being so proficient in the fine art of em-dashes before.
I just cannot believe an attorney would say such a thing. I can't believe it.
Your honor, #16 on our witness list, former Governor Sarah Palin. We'd ask that we take our next two witnesses out of order as they all have a flight to catch back to Alaska tonight, Mr. Todd Palin and Grandpa Chuck.
What started out as a mission to find the source(s) of excessive internet bullying and hate directed towards me — proportions of hate that have led to an extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception of me and occurrences in my life — has ended with the filling of this lawsuit. It is a lawsuit that I feel is necessary in order to protect myself and my children both now and in the future.
My hope is that this process may also give others the courage to seek out and stand up against brazen and damaging “faceless” internet bullies and hold them accountable for their actions. The saddest part of this situation is the fact that the investigation to identify the source and those responsible for orchestrating this barrage of hate for their own financial gain, has ended where it has and with the individuals named in the court documents.
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I wonder if her attorneys have been informed of this blog post.
The federal lawsuit is supposedly about hacking, theft of a computer hard drive and/or computer discs, Jon illegally accessing her online financial accounts, and Jon providing Hoffman with information for his book, which information in said book damaged Kate's reputation.
There is nothing that I recall in the complaint about "excessive internet bullying." And how exactly did the alleged bullying bring any participant "financial gain"? Show me a person who has made money off "talking trash" about Katie Irene Kreider. Kate has made money from the television show, from selling photo ops to paps, from her cookbooks, and from DWTS and Celebrity Wife Swap. I see that financial stream all right.
But I haven't made one dime from any comments I've posted here. I don't think any tweeties (the so-called haters) have made any money either.
Even Kate doesn't understand what the federal lawsuit is all about.
Wow, her attorneys will be sorry they got involved in this mess, if they aren't already. Reminds me of a case we had in our office that dragged on for over 2 years. The plaintiff seemed normal and rational at first, until "the crazy" came out. His first attorney bowed out, and he could never find another one. His doctors, one by one, realized he was nutty too, and said so in his medical records. He alienated everyone, including those originally on his side. In the end, he got nothing, but it did drag on and if the defendants didn't have insurance to cover their defense, would have cost them quite a bit of money.
Kate has to be a very difficult client, and one that talks over the attorney rather than listening to their legal expertise and deferring to their judgment. I think if this lawsuit continues for any length of time, one or both attorneys might have a change of heart and decide they don't want to represent TFW aka Crazy Lady anymore.
You know what --- it's starting to get very scary. I, too, am afraid for those kids. If Jon reads here...for the love of all that's holy, he needs to be aware now, more than ever, that the mother of his children is losing whatever grip on reality that she had left.
My guess would be BV had a hand in writing it without consulting that Philly attorney who also rails against SLAPP suits.
Kate has to be a very difficult client, and one that talks over the attorney rather than listening to their legal expertise and deferring to their judgment.
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I don't doubt it at all. She may have been itching for days to make a public statement about this. They may have been begging her for days to please not say anything.
At the end of the day, if your client says screw you I'm making a public statement anyway, there's really nothing you can do. If they want to do something against your advice, that is entirely their right and actually, it's unethical to stop them. You are their representative not their conservator. An attorney guides and advises what they believe to be the best course of action, but for all major decisions a client has an absolute right to do what they want even if it's not what you advise. It is not a democracy. The client is in charge on major decisions. (Smaller ones are different)
I loved to hear what Beth Carson has to say.
So how can Kate accept that it's Jon and Robert's fault for her portrayal on the RV and Alaskan episodes?
Maybe she should sue TLC...??
The statute of limitations in my state for defamation (which I never did) is one year. Does she think by filing this Federal lawsuit with her four year SOL that she's somehow going to sue her haters going back four years? Good luck!
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''....So my point being, how come Kate isn't suing HER? The nanny? The one who probably broke a confidentiality agreement to try to report it?''
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Do you think that the 20 John/Jane Does are named in the lawsuit are going to be trying to find out who talked to Robert, in spite of the CA she had them sign?
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB...3 That was funny.
What exactly is Kate protecting her kids from? The 'bullies' nor Robert or Jon are saying anything bad about them.
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#17 The Water Rafting Guy.
#18 The Sky Jump Guy.
#19 The Cupcake man who didn't know who TFW was.
#20 The Guy who licked TFW foot.
Kate has to be a very difficult client, and one that talks over the attorney rather than listening to their legal expertise and deferring to their judgment.
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I don't doubt it at all. She may have been itching for days to make a public statement about this. They may have been begging her for days to please not say anything.
Herding cats, anyone?
SLAPP said... 59
''My guess would be BV had a hand in writing it without consulting that Philly attorney who also rails against SLAPP suits.''
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I was just coming here to say the same thing! It 'sound like' BV to me.
I'm posting up a storm, and don't see a single one!
capecodmama said... 63
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB...3 That was funny.
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Thanks, ccmama. Although this whole thing is turning into some weird journey into surrealism, we must keep our senses of humor. :)
Tweet I think we may need Obama to make that call after all. Kate stop, please TFW just stop!
I wonder if TLC is wondering if they should do something at this point. HCI surely is doing some soul searching.
Shelby I guess she is going to protect the children from Jon who "stole". I'm sorry, does Jon regularly drive around the neighborhood stealing hard drives or was this a ONE TIME INCIDENT because his wife was trying to bury him in a divorce and wouldn't turn over the documents he needed to defend himself so he had to get them himself? She deadbolted her bedroom for heaven sake, she had foreign accounts and other shady dealings and stole money out of their trust account herself, what did you expect he was going to think?! Does he have a criminal record? Has he taken anything of Kate's since?
She has unclean hands here but refuses to admit that. Absolutely refuses. She refuses to acknowledge the very clear and understandable motive for any collection of documents that went on during a BITTER DIVORCE.
Did Kate just defame Jon and Robert by these allegations that they are responsible for the haters and that there's some financial link between them and the haters? You know who first started mouthing off about a financial link? BV
If she's going after all the people who despise her, why would she stop at 20?
Hey Everyone...resident night-time troll here...lol... url, whether you said it or not, I thought it was funny! I often am one of the last on here at night because of the time difference where I live..... ahh well, I have been called a lot of things but never a troll, so now I have a new one to add to my list!!
Melissa NV... I am on the same page as you..is this what she is trying to say... The haterz came about because Jon befreinded a pap, who then got the information that she wanted no one to see and he published it long enough to ruin her life. So its all Jons fault.
Yep, that would make sense to a narcissist. And A narcisisst would think that all of us loved her before then.
My hunch, she was still getting enough "love" to truly not notice the " hate", but the the book came out about the same time as the "love" supply was dwindling so it became harder and harder for her toignore the hate.
BV helped to fuel that. Both BV and this rinkydink lawyer are using a woman who appears to be somewhat unstable to make a big buck. Like TLC, they dont care what lives they trash as long as they make money. Her lawyer himself was quoted to have said Rich douchebags file SLAPP suits. He doesnt like them, but the bring him moola.. thats all that matters right..
I hope Jon stays silent, and Robert continues with his publication.
So much for the kids excitement about school starting.... yah, I am sure she is trying to remain positive.
Well, I guess I'll have no problem at all compiling Kate's worst moments this year. That's a relief.
Oh ya..
Just " WHO" has bee asking her to make a statement about her lawsuit?
Yes, no one, and that angers her I bet...
TFW you said that the twitter hate was leading to an "extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception" of yourself
Is it untrue that you:
Treated Tony Dovaloni with disrespectful and rude behavior? (April 2010)
Is it untrue and inaccurate that you:
Were rude, whining, and generally beligerent during the Sarah Palin episode? (December 2010)
Is it untrue and inaccurate that you:
Chose your body guard and his pizza desires over treating your own child with respect and dignity. (August 2011)
Is it untrue that you:
Were rude and condescending to the young man at the sky tower in Australia? (May 2011)
Jon and Robert had NOTHING to do with your behavior. You did this yourself and filmed it and presented it to the public for their consumption which also means that you OWN your behavior and any and all opinions about it.
Suck it up buttercup. This is all on you.
Jon obviously did not orchestrate the Jimmy Fallon parody, or the Anderson Cooper 'ridiculist' title, nor did he force Andy Cohen to call you the Jackhole of the day (not once but twice). Nor did he call on GMA to laugh at your blaming Jon for defaming you. Jon does not have that power, however, your own behavior did.
Is it possible that, with all of the negative comments, responses, poking fun of her on various shows, has shown her that this is backfiring big time, and this is a desperate attempt to somehow justify her actions? I wonder if she ever really expected that this would blow up in her face as it has. She didn't think this thing through and this statement is all she could come up with.
So John and Jane Does numbers 1-20 were just accused by Kate of having a financial motive for expressing their disdain for her. That means once they are named, they are defamed. Nice one, Kate.
Kate, you thanked your haters for keeping your name out there and for the buzz. You also dedicated your marathon to them. Can't have it both ways, dear.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 84
Well, I guess I'll have no problem at all compiling Kate's worst moments this year. That's a relief.
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And it's only August.
Shelby I guess she is going to protect the children from Jon who "stole". I'm sorry, does Jon regularly drive around the neighborhood stealing hard drives or was this a ONE TIME INCIDENT because his wife was trying to bury him in a divorce and wouldn't turn over the documents he needed to defend himself so he had to get them himself?))))))))))))))))))
Thanks for the response. She could have just sued Robert, and dropped Jon's name from it. He is the kid's FATHER for crying out loud.
How odd it must be to live in her house. The kids must feel shame for loving their dad.
I'd bet money Kevin and Jodi are crying tonite. I hope they read here and know they aren't alone.
I feel like we need to do something, like collect donations for a child abuse charity or something.
Thousands said... 83
If she's going after all the people who despise her, why would she stop at 20?
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LOL!!
Defendants:
Jonathan Gosselin
Robert Hoffman
and 10,874,239 John and Jane Does.
Wait til Kate tries to sue people based on BV's outings. He made some big assumptions about people and screen names they were using based on some secret decoder ring he has. He was wrong on many occasions. Get ready for the countersuits is all I have to say.
BV helped to fuel that. Both BV and this rinkydink lawyer
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You mean Raz-a-matazz?
Sorry I think that nickname is just too perfect and I love how people just call him that like it's his real name. Every time I see it I picture the guy doing the jazz hands and tap dancing.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 17
''What? She's totally lost it. Huh? What does a lawsuit have ANYTHING to do with internet bullies?''
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What just jumps out for me is that TFMJG seems to be attempting to muddy up the SOL. She seems to be linking her dealing with bullyville and her 'discovery' that Robert and Jon are responsible. As usual, she totally forgot that she 'discovered' the so called ''orchestrating this barrage of hate for their own financial gain'' years ago.
OR, maybe the key words are ''their own financial gain''...she fears that Robert may make money on the re-release of his book may make money, and we all know that NO ONE is allowed to make a penny from her/her children except TFMJG!
I don't think Kate wrote that most recent blog post. It sounds more like a BV thing.
In one of the other sections here, someone remarked that BV's outings of RWA commenters, which continues btw, meant that those people wouldn't be named in a lawsuit. It was giving up too much information. But neither Jon nor RH have been outed as posting on that blog. Could that mean that they did post there and their remarks might have bearing on the case?
Of course, it could also mean that they never posted on RWA.
It's doubtful that Kate's attorneys spent time looking up info on the 'bullies' so one would assume it was BV and it's hard to imagine he's doing all this work for free.
Does anyone remember a comment made during the time when the kids had the house and Kate and Jon would take their custody with the kids at the house...about someones wedding ring being taken?
Was it Jon's ring and he said Kate took it?
Maybe a bit off topic, but it popped into my mind...
She's Come Undone said... 86
So John and Jane Does numbers 1-20 were just accused by Kate of having a financial motive for expressing their disdain for her. That means once they are named, they are defamed. Nice one, Kate.
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BV harped on that all through April...that the "haters" were monetarily profiting while allegedly bullying Kate. He said he had irrefutable proof. Kate seems to have bought into that scenario judging what she said on her blog.
But, that's now what the lawsuit it about.
I have multiple examples of Kate saying she can't see anything the haters are tweeting and if her fans wouldn't engage them she wouldn't know they were there. And we didn't forget about the tee shirt dedicating her marathon to her detractors. This is blowing up in her face in unprecedented ways and the papers haven't even been served.
YES.
Jon said on Good Morning American years ago that he believed Kate had stolen his wedding ring as she was the ONLY PERSON who had access to it.
Let's see, stealing a wedding ring, stealing a harddrive. The difference please? What would be the difference? Why doesn't he sue KATE for stealing to protect his children from a thief?
Exactly what I mean by unclean hands. It was a messy divorce. GET OVER IT.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20302916,00.html
This song is going through my head...
Snipped...
It's too late
She's gone too far
She's lost the sun
She's come undone
She's come undone
She found a mountain that was far too high
And when she found out she couldn't fly
It was too late
She's come undone
She didn't know what she was headed for
And when I found what she was headed for
Mama, it was too late
She's Come Undone, she has! I'm listening to it on YouTube right now. :)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93
I feel like we need to do something, like collect donations for a child abuse charity or something.
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Yes! And then take a long hot shower to wash off the slime that she and BV and her tap dancing lawyers exude.
For instance, some of their "proof" people are tied to Robert (we're not) is that Robert showed up at a university that may or may not have also been host to my law school. He was apparently there specifically to see one of the dozens of world-renowned events held there every year that is open to the public and widely attended by the public from all over, near and wide. I, it's a given, was not there and had never even heard of that particular group. Nor have I ever been to a show there. If I ever attended school there at all, I was studying or working when shows were going on. This is law school, not college. Awesome smoking gun there.
Meagler, I read that quote by Rinkydink about rich scum filing SLAPP suits and that he makes money off them, but he defends AGAINST SLAPP suits, he doesn't file them. That's what's so bizarre about this.
Melissa NV said... 104
This song is going through my head...
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Mine too. I listening on YouTube. It sure fits.
She's gone too far
She's lost the sun.
She's come uuuunnnndone!
I just cannot believe an attorney would say such a thing. I can't believe it.
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Well, we can be fairly certain that Milo and the sheep didn't write it!
OMG. I'm just now finding out about Kate's "statement". And I'm slapping (no pun intended) my forehead.
She's totally lost it.
When it comes to a celebrity she not only has to prove we lied about her, which we didn't, she has to prove we had a reckless disregard for the truth to purposely damage her reputation. Then she has to prove the defendants damaged her reputation and that she actually had a reputation worth damaging.
This is insane.
Can you imagine an attorney who defends the free speech rights of (my opinion) scum like porn stars and BV, pretending he has a case against some women with opinions about a loathsome celebrity. He'll be a giant laughingstock among all his libertarian friends and colleagues. She damaged his reputation tonight.
Sorry I think that nickname is just too perfect and I love how people just call him that like it's his real name. Every time I see it I picture the guy doing the jazz hands and tap dancing.
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Richard Gere, aka Billy Flynn, Chicago.
"What are you, psychic? LOL I just this instant made myself a wee vodka/oj to calm the urge to "shriek" in utter disbelief."
Just Gladys...a-peepin in those windows.
Meagler, I read that quote by Rinkydink about rich scum filing SLAPP suits and that he makes money off them,
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I know, and calling them the "D" word. Now he has a client who is doing the same thing. What the heck?
No way did the TFW write that statement. Not flowery enough, no exclamation marks, and it wasn't too incoherent.
I also don't think her atty's wrote it.
My vote is BV wrote it.
But it still makes no sense in that it doesn't tie to what the complaint says.
Why did she write something about the lawsuit that had absolutely nothing to do with the lawsuit? I'm guessing BV had a hand in it - did he just mess up her lawsuit by announcing it was a SLAPP? Will they end up turning on each other in the end? That's what I always predicted, but not this quickly.
and 10,874,239 John and Jane Does.
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If they all threw in a buck, at least their attorneys' fees would be covered.
It's a good thing you put up a brand new post moments before this broke. It's already getting crowded on here. How are the blog hits doing? Are you breaking records?
Dot haven't looked since I last mentioned it. If I get a chance I'll find out for you.
Has anyone else noticed that around the same time Steve cut back on his hours with TFW and took new gigs with other TLC families is when she started to really become unhinged? I think he really helped to keep her in check.
Boyson yes I love that story. A true mother's love is when you would give up your own child never to see them again if it will spare them their life. Tragically, this happened in the Holocaust, many mothers left their children behind.
Melissa NV said... 110
I just cannot believe an attorney would say such a thing. I can't believe it.
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Well, we can be fairly certain that Milo and the sheep didn't write it!
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I believe she did write it. I can see her sitting there madly typing away, her eyes glazed over with that dark raging anger we've all seen..
Hide the bunny.
I was just thinking the same thing, Admin. She's apparently down to BV being the only adult in her life and she's on the fast lane to disaster.
Dot @ 108.... I went back and re-read razzamatazz's quote, and gosh darn I hate being wrong, but yep, he said he " defends" the SLAPp suits. oops.... I greedily read too quickly over that part as my eyes were drawn to the hosebag words..lol...
That doesnt make sense. If he feels so strongly about free speech... however the lawsuit filed on Monday is about Jon illegally obtaining information... I dont recall anything about ree speech.
Her bog today wowza... confising.. yes she's come undone...
If all of this hate was created by Jon and Roberts propaganda, then why has Kate been making the ..
" But I have changed " speech lately?
"I have matured, and I have grown up. I deal with things better now "
Sleepeless In Seattle said... 115
and 10,874,239 John and Jane Does.
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If they all threw in a buck, at least their attorneys' fees would be covered.
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lol! No worry there. Her lawsuit will never fly. She admitted years ago 99% of the population hated her. And NOW she's upset aobut it?
Dear Kate,
No matter how much you think that private school is protecting your kids, the teachers do not see or hear all. Actually teachers can often be the last ones to realize what some kids might be saying to others on the playground.
Please know that some kid somewhere, has already said to at least one of your kids..." So, I hear your mom is suing your dad!" and likely has said some type of other sad type of commentary to go along with that statement.
Kate, its true. Get you head out from between your buttocks!
You allowed your very public divorce to traumatize your kids. Some had to leave school for what ever reason. You yourself said, the divorce was hard on them.
How do you think having a public display of you suing Jon is going to affect your kids?
No one will be surprised when later on this year some of your kids may again have to leave school for what ever reason because they are struggling with this whole fiasco between you and Jon.
For once in your life, set your own needs aside. Why do you really care what others think about you? If you truly do love those kids like you constantly say you, then drop this law suit. Walk away from twitter. Make cookbooks , run coupon websites, but get out of this stupid media war zone you have willingly put yourself into.
GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF THE INTERNET. GET YOURSELF OUT OF THE INTERNET!
No one forced you to go on twitter, or to check the rag mags daily.
Go watch Ashton Kutcher's video about what sexy really is. It applies to you too!
First of all, how would she know what any of the haters had to say because she BLOCKED everyone that didn't fart rainbows and tell her how great she was. Secondly, who cares if Robert and/or Jon posted on any blog under an assumed name? Haven't we had our suspicions that TFW has posted here in the past under a name other than her own? So what. All I can say to TFW is WTF?! Some of her fans are just as bad as some of the haters.
Jon & Robert, if you read here please take all the good advice that the wise people on this blog have given you and above all else, keep silent. Given enough rope she will hang herself.
My favorite PR oops lately has been Geraldo Rivera's selfie.
My opinion of TFW was formed during the first season of Jon and Kate Plus 8. That was long before Robert Hoffman ever picked disks out of the trash. My opinion then was that she was mean, unbending, full of anger, mouthy and never considered Jon a marriage partner. He was her unpaid helper. Her children were dolls to be dragged around by the arm and to yell at
at the drop of a hat.
My opinion has worsened over time. She has done nothing to show me she has changed one thing for the better.
Let's not forget to call the little Palin (Piper?) for the defense.
That statement sounded like PR.
She has clearly passed the point of no return and I can't even to begin to imagine the living hell those kids are going through.
Has Milo weighed in yet?
I am on the left coast, so I also am one of the later posters during "15 Minute After Hours".
My opinion of TFW was formed during the first season of Jon and Kate Plus 8. That was long before Robert Hoffman ever picked disks out of the trash. My opinion then was that she was mean, unbending, full of anger, mouthy and never considered Jon a marriage partner. He was her unpaid helper. Her children were dolls to be dragged around by the arm and to yell at
at the drop of a hat.
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Me too. FIRST. SEASON.
I would say 99 percent of my opinions about her come directly from her own words and actions, be that on the show, twitter, or in interviews. But 1% comes from other's stories, ideas or opinions. I decide things for myself and to imply that someone like Robert could have such a heavy influence on anyone is rather insulting.
TFW's blog post is both bizarre and disturbing. Can what she wrote (or had someone write for her) really make sense to her? Talk about pretzel logic.
It reminds me of the comic strip "The Family Circus" by Bil Keane. He would use thick dotted lines to show the path a child would take to get from point A to point B. But the path was never a straight line, because the child would get distracted by every little thing. It was always a circuitous route illustrating the child meandering from place to place, often back-tracking or criss-crossing or stopping along the way, until finally reaching the intended destination.
I visualize TFW's mind careening along haphazardly from point to point like this. Sadly, her intended destination is always the destruction of Jon.
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A publicity stunt that went tragically awry was when the British radio show hosts called the hospital where Kate Middleton was being treated for her severe morning sickness, and pretended to be the Queen. It resulted in the suicide of the nurse that routed the call along.
Many of us were against the exploitation of the kids lloonngg before Robert and any book came along.
Many of us questioned the appropriateness of Kate's actions towards Jon and the kids, long before they were even divorced.
I know for a fact, that I stopped watching Jon and kate plus 8 and any other reality show on TLC and other networks , that invovled children or kids under 18. I paid close attention to how laws were being changed in Pennsylvania, and other parts of the country.
I formed my opinion about Kate, long before she even got on twitter or before I even found this blog.
Kate, Stick that in your pipe and smoke it...or chew it if thats what you prefer!..lol..
Oh yeah I felt so bad for Prince William when that happened. To lose his mother and then to have another death related to the media tied up in the happiest thing since then is tragic. I imagine that has been added to his tally of incidents that haunt him about the destiny in public he cannot get out of.
I'm quite surprised Kate would post that 'statement of fuckery' on her blog instead of letting all these tabloid news shows wine and dine her. Why isn't Kate making appearances on these shows if they're asking for a statement?? We all know how much she LOVES those limo rides and free hair and make up. Odd.
Does she maybe not even know what she filed suit for? Yes she signed it but I doubt she understands it. I know my eyes glazed over trying to read the complaint.
I'm just confused. Hypothetically they find Jon and Robert guilty and they owe her millions and she takes the kids to California. How does that stop internet hate? I could open a twitter account and write I hate you Kate. There is nothing illegal in that action. I could do it every day and there would be nothing illegal. I can't relate her statement to her lawsuit.
Maybe her PR agent helped make the statement coherent? I agree that Steve kept her stable and Jon kept her stable but BV has no interest in keeping her stable. Unfortunately I think it shows how bad her mental illness is. Whatever kind of illness it is. I feel so bad for those kids trying desperately to keep her stable.
Wow. I have finally caught up! Thank you poster posting about the abuse you suffered as a child. I know how you feel. I clearly remember getting it pretty bad one school night and went to school the next day, I was in 3rd grade, I think and a classmate told the teacher and she got another teacher to take me to the restroom to see if I was ok. They wanted to know how I got those big welps on my back and I told them that my brother jumped on me. He was 4. This was done by a 29 year old man.
The pressure, shame, stress, being scared is just horrible.
I can't imagine the G8 going thru this for years and her doing it now. I believe she is still doing it. Mady, being forced to pose for the Alaska picture, crying and they said holding her arm. I believe kate lost it because Mady probably refused to be in the picture and she man-handled her and forced her to do it.
Can you imagine if Mady would of handed Steve a moose dog camping with the Palins without washing or sterilizing her hands? MooseDogGate.
The plastic wrap that TFW has in her grip from the photos that Robert posted looks more like aluminum foil, a half a roll or a lead pipe.
Also, please everyone go back and look at the Discipline video. At the very beginning, Mady is in the stroller crying and kate is holding a child behind and she puts her hand on her head and tells her something like don't act like a 3 year old. Then BAM, CUT! the camera then goes to Mady, crying louder AND FURIOUSLY RUBBING THE INSIDE OF HER LEFT SIDE AND ARM PIT. That MONSTER GRABBED MADY AND HAD TO SQUEEZE THE HECK OUT OF HER!
I can see all this coming to fruition. TFW told Jon in front of Robert that anything left in the gar/apt would be THROWN INTO THE TRASH. In her thinking, his stuff, going to go in the trash, that'll show him.
Well, she was and is tooooo stupid to realize that trash on the curb is fair game, too bad, too sad, and LEGAL in PA!
Note to Jon! Your doing great! Stay low-key and SHHH!
I can honestly say that my opinion of TFW and my commenting about her hasn't been influenced one iota by any blog or blogger, hater or fan, and certainly not by Jon or Robert. I formed my opinion all by my self by watching TFW's behavior on tv - long before any mention of any book! I knew that she was abusing the kids with my own eyes and ears from what came out of TFW's mouth on her OWN show and in her many interviews.
I knew what my opinions of her were LONG before I looked for online confirmation that others might feel the same way. As the show went on her behaviors intensified and the children's reactions became clearer and clearer and my feelings solidified by watching TFW herself. No one swayed my opinions nor had to lead me to my conclusions. No blog or blogger or tweeter has swayed me one bit.
If TFW wants to blame anyone for any negative opinions of her she need only look in the mirror. TFW alone, is to blame for the negative press, blogs, and tweets.
Just thinking aloud as I type, but shouldn't TFW be suing TLC for showing her in a bad light? Had her bad behavior been kept on the cutting room floor, as done in the beginning, no one would be the wiser, right? ;-)
The Radio Station contest that had people drink water, water, water and you could not go to the bathroom. A caller called in during the live remote and told them that it could possibly kill somebody because your body is saturated with water with your blood.
The DJ's laughed and joked it off. A young woman who I think won, died right after the contest because of drinking too much water. The medical term is hyponatremia.
She was trying to win a X-Box for her kids.
Robert came onto the scene at the 11th hour, ages and ages upon ages and ages after all the "hate" if she would prefer to call it that was already there.
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Maybe she's trying to get back at Dana Hoffman also?
Whatever happened to "Block the haters and join the fun"?
public perception of me and occurrences in my life..."
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-the alleged abuse she suffered
-the alleged abortion
-allegedly buying fertility drugs
-allegedly having sex after being advised not to
-the alleged contract stating Jon could see other women
I could go on, but maybe these are the "occurances in my life" that she's referring to?
So how did the investigation into internet bullies (GMAB) lead to Jon and Robert? If there was a link, the link would have been spelled out in the suit. I'm telling you, they subpoenaed RWA to see if any of the posters were Jon or Robert. They were not. So how did that lead to them knowing that Jon stole and hacked?" There's no connection.
It is SOOOOOOO ironic that that girl tweeted about her dad getting a dirty look from TFW in the midst of all this. Yes, FW, such and INACURRATE light in which you have been painted.
Call Me Crazy said... 131
TFW's blog post is both bizarre and disturbing. Can what she wrote (or had someone write for her) really make sense to her? Talk about pretzel logic.
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It was obviously written by an attorney or publicist IMO
My opinion of her was formed when she was planning the 2nd (?) birthday for the tups. (the one with the Carnival theme). There were a few things that were "off" during that episode, but the one thing she said that made me want to find out more was something to the effect that "my parents aren't in our life". That statement, to me, coming from a so-called Christian woman who was portraying herself as such a wonderful family person, did not sit well with me. That is when I got on the internet and starting reading the good, bad & ugly.
I bet the anonymous people she's going after are past babysitters, nannies, and perhaps even Jody & Kevin and her sister that had a blog that mentioned their rocky relationship.
When Preesi's site was public, she had umpteen examples of TFW's behavior, etc. That was a treasure trove of evidence against TFW...
Remona Blue said....
I was with you when you were saying ''if'' Jon was guilty of this or that, but then you went up the down staircase and suddenly started blaming Jon for actually doing what TFMJG is accusing him of doing!
I think that you and I have had the discussion before about exposing the abuse of the children not being in the best interest of the kids. Those children KNOW about the abuse...they are the ones being abused. The more the exposure of their abuse the better, in my opinion. I don't understand the concept of not exposing child abuse because it might hurt the child being abused. That makes zero sense to me.
The fact that she put out that statement shows that she is aware of, and probably taken off guard about, the negative backlash
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 65
It sounds like her manner of speaking although I never recall her being so proficient in the fine art of em-dashes before.
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Maybe she had her head tilted and she thought they were exclamation points.
My opinion of TFMJG was formed during the first 3 episodes of the first season. The first example was during the first episode about pumpkin picking. She stated that before the six the twins ALWAYS (she emphasized that)had the right clothes, toys never knew what a "hand me down was". I found that really telling for some reason.
The second example was I believe the 3rd episode where her and Jon do their will. She argued with Jon about when the kids would get their money. I think they decided upon completion of college or age 25. And then she said it wasn't about when they got the money but that she didn't like the thoughts that she wouldn't be here to control. And later on she goes on to say "I am in the grave and I am still controlling".
That summed her up to me. She is a control freak.
The sheeple think the BV reports are evidence they can use to sue people. I hate to break this to them but those reports are not verified and they are not even accurate.
BV would need to get a subpoena for each ISP to get an accurate report. If someone uses their home internet and also their cell phone, he'd need to subpoena both companies. He obviously didn't do that. I can't imagine what grounds he'd have to do that anyway.
When did free speech get outlawed?
I was with you when you were saying ''if'' Jon was guilty of this or that, but then you went up the down staircase and suddenly started blaming Jon for actually doing what TFMJG is accusing him of doing!
I think that you and I have had the discussion before about exposing the abuse of the children not being in the best interest of the kids. Those children KNOW about the abuse...they are the ones being abused. The more the exposure of their abuse the better, in my opinion. I don't understand the concept of not exposing child abuse because it might hurt the child being abused. That makes zero sense to me.
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Oops, Remona--forgot to add my comment. If getting the story of the abuse out there is what you want, isn't that now happening? That issue is aside from whether Jon participated in illegal activities. I believe in people getting the consequences of their behavior. That is, IMO, what is happening. I am not saying that he deserves this, or that it is even right. I think he is doing the best he can under the circumstances. As I said, he is paying a very big price for some bad behavior pretty long ago.
If he is vindicated of these accusations, I will be the first to say "Yay!". In any case, Kate has self-destructed.
To those who were raised in abuse, what do you think it would be like to have it published in a book and plastered in the media? And, to start school with your teachers and classmates knowing about it , and sordid details of their lives. I just can't see how this is in the best interest of the kids.
And if anyone thinks that Kate Gosselin’s journal is my only proof of abuse, you have a big shock in store for you.
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This is from an entry on Hoffman's blog dated April 8, 2013. My God, she really thinks she's made of Teflon, doesn't she? The delusions of grandeur are staggering.
Didn't KK say that 98% of the human population hates her?
So if she going to sue the rest of the population as well as Jon & Robert?
I use to be a fan of KK's and I use to dislike Jon a lot.
That's until I saw her crying poor me on the today show and then.
She went on her Jon bashing tour while traveling around with rat claws.
And the I found the Gosselin 15 yay!!!!
Why hasn't buzzfeed been added to the lawsuit? Are J and R behind this?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-tribute-to-kate-gosselins-iconic-spiky-reverse
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Then BAM, CUT! the camera then goes to Mady, crying louder AND FURIOUSLY RUBBING THE INSIDE OF HER LEFT SIDE AND ARM PIT. That MONSTER GRABBED MADY AND HAD TO SQUEEZE THE HECK OUT OF HER!
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yup, I remember that one
Ex Nurse, ”Fifteen Minutes After Hours”, too funny!
For Big Brother fans, what did you think of Thursday nights show? How about Julie Chens interview with the evicted house guest? I was very impressed with Julie. Check out the live feed summaries if you don't want to wait until Sunday to know who won Head of Household. I think fans will be very entertained this week, the twists and turns are fun to watch.
This whole thing with TFMJG is just sad. Sad for the kids to have to live with an out of control mother. Sad for Jon and Robert to have to deal with this irritating annoyance. Sad for TFMJG who is destroying herself in front of the twidiots and the dwindling audience that pays attention to her histrionics. Sad for the people who work for razzle dazzle and the court who actually have to spend valuable work time to deal with this time wasting farce.
Personal disclaimer: I had a very involved mother who micromanaged my life as much as she could. the term is enmeshment. She looked to external sources for validation of her value as a person. She probably had chronic depression, but would never go for any kind of treatment because she believed ” only crazy people go to a psychiatrist.” Anyway, I learned early on what to say to appease her, while I was actively working on limiting her knowledge of what I really thought or planned. I can see TFMJG children doing this. I remember clearly coming to the realization I could not tell my mother about anything really important to me around age eleven or twelve. She would either take over and push me, or interfere with what I wanted to do if it was something SHE wasn't interested in.
Even if TFMJG gets help and changes starting right now, its too late. She has lost some of those kids already, they will not forget or forgive what she has done. Especially this lawsuit.
the children are getting older and they will be able to voice to a judge who they prefer to live with. TFMJG should have participated fully in counseling with the LaFair person, and should have paid the bill and gone back for more counseling! It would have been cheaper than the incredible damage she has done to herself. All by herself.
To those who were raised in abuse, what do you think it would be like to have it published in a book and plastered in the media? And, to start school with your teachers and classmates knowing about it , and sordid details of their lives. I just can't see how this is in the best interest of the kids.
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I WAS raised in abuse and I was/still am ashamed to tell. BUT I would have been absolutely indebted to anyone ANYONE who would have blown the whistle and taken me out of that situation. I would have felt vindicated somehow if someone had had the balls to let the world know what it was REALLY LIKE. These kids lives have been put out there from the beginning, there have been numerous attempts to expose her publically BECAUSE she/they are public people. A huge corporation tried to keep the abuse hidden and KEPT IT GOING for the love of God! YES it should be made PUBLIC, in THIS case. The depths of abuse need to be exposed. What don't you get ex-nurse?? It IS in the best interest of THESE kids!! It is in the best interest of the public to know just how far this all goes.
Sandusky? Catholic Priests?
From what I can figure out from this statement, Kate is trying to tie the Twitter/blog harassment and BV thing together with the lawsuit against Jon and Robert. She's using the bullying as an excuse to get back at J&R. If the book hadn't been published, she'd never have been bullied to this extend on Twitter and RWA. Only problem is that RWA was around for years, and she's only been on Twitter since 2011 and she was the subject of criticism long before the book came out. Blaming them is not going to fly.
Moreover, one solution to the harassment on Twitter would have been to simply have pulled the plug on Twitter. Easy fix. She couldn't do it (and can't do it) because it seems to be the only way she's getting kudos and adulation. She's certainly not getting it in the media; the negative comments are brutal.
I don't think that she believed that this lawsuit would have generated the negative publicity as it has. It's just exploded, and she had to find some way to do damage control, so she's doing the only thing she knows what to do, which is to blame someone else for backing her into a corner and forcing her to take action.
Her attorney is speaking out. She's speaking out. Thus far Jon and Robert are not (good for them). Both her attorney and she need to keep quiet. I guess she figures if her attorney is making statements, she should be able to also. Nope. Put a gag order on both of them. This is not doing anything for her except showing her need to make excuses. It's just making it worse.
I also wonder if there was a motive for filing the suit. Bring all of this alleged hacking to the public, showing how she believes she's been wronged, and then, at the last hour, withdraw the suit so she can come out smelling like the proverbial rose and the most awesome mother ever because she dropped it, saying that she is withdrawing it because everything she does is for the kids, and in their best interest. Perhaps initially she never had any intention of going through with it. It's funny how this whole thing coincides with the releasing of her book -- desperation for publicity? Dropping the lawsuit and she comes across as a good mom, and people will flock to buy the book...is that what she's thinking? Who knows...we'll see if she actually goes through with this thing.
She did not write that post but someone helped her,maybe Stevie?
One good thing, so far, no one is giving TFW a platform to air her grievances. Maybe, just maybe the networks are finally coming to the same conclusion that we have, that the woman is mentally ill.
Winsomeone, I actually think that could be exactly what is happening here. I think they are waking up and realizing it, and no one wants to touch that.
I wonder if she's sitting there scratching her head unable to understand how this turned out so badly. I bet she really doesn't get it. I hope she has some support she can turn to to deal with this in a healthy manner and I hope she doesn't take it out on the kids.
Food for thought, many victims of very public abuse cases are happy to go public, faces unblurred, and tell all. For many it seems to empower them.
What comes to mind is brave Victim number one in the Sandusky case, who gave a wonderful interview to Chris Cuomo and also write a book. Several victims of the Catholic priest cases have also come forward and talked publicly, some even made a documentary--name escapes me now.
It's a fallacy to assume that all abuse victims want absolute secrecy and privacy just as it's a fallacy to assume that all of them want to go public. It depends on the kid. Reactions to abuse are as varied as snowflakes, you can see this even within the same family.
I thought there was speculation that Robert's wife was one of the posters on RWA?
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One good thing, so far, no one is giving TFW a platform to air her grievances.
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I think that surprised her. Seems the only one who asked was whoever was at the bus stop. No one (two words, Somewhere in Time) would pay for it just like no (space) one would pay for the picture the Philly Pap took two years ago.
I can pinpoint the first time I really disliked Kate. It was when they went to the store and Kate was screaming at Jon in front of everyone. Screaming about not helping or something. I think she was clapping at him too.
Jon explained afterward it really embarrassed him to be yelled at like that in public. Not to mention, Jon WAS helping by keeping six very active toddlers happy by entertaining them. I remember he was picking out toys and doing voices or something and the babies were happy.
It bothered me that Kate didn't see ANY value in herding and keeping happy six little kids. I've never taken six babies into the store, but I imagine it would be wonderful to have an extra pair of hands to keep them content and not crying while I focused on the shopping. She just didn't see the value in that and never did, whereas I completely disagreed, I thought what he was doing was great and that she was incredibly out of line for scolding him.
This must have been what, 2007? I didn't like her even then.
Maybe she had her head tilted and she thought they were exclamation points.
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Comment of the morning.
Head cocked to the side in rage.
Ugh. She's exhausting & disgusting.
There is a good reason why she's alone in her alone-ness.
Interesting...ever since the lawsuit bombshell on Monday, that stupid Gather website hasn't been writing stupid articles about her stupid tweets.
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I remember watching that with my hubby and he looked at me and said holy crap what a b*tch, and if I ever did that to him he'd walk. It made me start watching and paying attention to her behaviour and it was eye opening....
Did not need a book, twitter or anything else to see what was right in front of me!!
And let's not forget about calling up the folks from Disney...you know, The Happiest Place on Earth, where she had her kids sobbing over a little ice cream spill.
Yes, the world of blogs, twitter, tabloids came to me AFTER I formed my OWN opinion of her.
Then I went searching. I think I googled the words HATE KATE GOSSELIN and a treasure trove came up.
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To those who were raised in abuse, what do you think it would be like to have it published in a book and plastered in the media? And, to start school with your teachers and classmates knowing about it , and sordid details of their lives. I just can't see how this is in the best interest of the kids.
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I think it's a two edge sword you can say nothing and be blamed for not helping.
Or you can be blamed for exposing it and face critic on why you did so.
In this case it's not like Kate was loving & sweet & caring in the media and then she was horrid in private.
We saw how awful she was on TV and in magazine and she wouldn't let it go.
I think sometimes abuse should be exposed in order to help the victims and the abuser.
Nancy, exactly. I would walk too. My problem with it is that it was so disrespectful. I have never been in any kind of relationship where someone is yelling at me in public and I never will. It's completely unacceptable.
If she had an issue with what Jon was doing at the store, that's fine. But why not discuss it like adults after the kids are in bed? Honey, I felt very frustrated at the store today because I felt like you weren't available for me and weren't helping me out. Every time I called for you or looked for you, you just weren't there and I felt myself getting upset.
Then Jon could have explained that he honestly thought he was helping by keeping the kids entertained, but that perhaps next time they could get a babysitter or bring along an extra pair of hands like Aunt Jodi so he can be more available and responsive to her needs.
My God, just be an adult.
Whoever wrote TFW's latest blog post didn't proofread their work very closely:
"What started out as a mission...has ended with the filling of this lawsuit."
FILLING? If she's talking about stuffing her complaint with BS, irrelevance, and paranoid fantasies, then "filling" is correct.
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Then BAM, CUT! the camera then goes to Mady, crying louder AND FURIOUSLY RUBBING THE INSIDE OF HER LEFT SIDE AND ARM PIT.
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Same thing in the Dutch Wonderland episode. I'm guessing that she does that because she can come from behind, out of view of the cameras. It is sickening to think that the crew was seeing this, even while filming that fake discipline episode. Oh yes, those kids were just drifting in and out of the camera field, playing and laughing.
There are many other scenes with the kids crying and holding their forearms.
She is now squarely in Octomom territory--she is poison. She may be talked about, but she is not going to be occupying any coveted chairs putting her spin out there. The mainstream media has dropped the story--it was a one day headlines story. The online tabloids might run periodic stories, but I doubt she will get much print.
I wonder if Robert Hoffman realized that Kate would sue and claim he ruined her reputation and any hope of getting work.
Explains why he posted hundreds of links on his website showing her bad behavior and nasty reputation date back years and years.
I can't imagine what else Robert has up his sleeve. It must be really, really bad and I bet it's in the new version of the book. She's terrified.
"If there's no drama for a few minutes, they will manufacture some drama out of nothing at all. Is everything going fine? That's got to change! They (and you) never have any true peace, because histrionic people find the lack of drama far too boring. If drama does exist, they feed on it, extend it, fan the flames, give all their energy to it, and foster it as long as possible. If there's a shortage of drama, they will go to any length to get some going -- they will even even flat-out lie -- to generate something. Everything is a "big deal", and you cannot suggest otherwise, or else, now it's an even BIGGER deal because you're denying that it's something truly worth getting all upset over!
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Does this sound like her current episode?
I guess it doesn't really matter who wrote the thing, she put it on her site. It's obvious she's been tutored by BV.
What it really is, is a dispute between a divorced couple and once again, she's taken it to a public forum to duke it out. She just cannot stand to be out of the limelight.
She's seething because she thinks someone other than herself is going to make a buck off the Gosselin Brand and nothing pisses her off more than that.
The biggest miscalculation she made in this is thinking that people still care about their petty divorce squabbles. That people would feel she is so wronged and care so deeply about that. They don't, they just don't.
People just care that she's the butt of the joke. They care to the extent, where's the joke? Where's the snark?
She's as serious as Sarah Bernhardt in all this when everyone else thinks it's a divine comedy. Kinda funny.
It must be very hard to desperately want to change the public's perception of you, yet the images from "the realest reality tv show" beg to differ from your now desired persona. SHE made the bed and to blame anyone else is delusional. But I guess. If you have the money you can get an attorney to try anything. Sad. Westbrooke
I also wonder if there was a motive for filing the suit. Bring all of this alleged hacking to the public, showing how she believes she's been wronged, and then, at the last hour, withdraw the suit so she can come out smelling like the proverbial rose and the most awesome mother ever because she dropped it, saying that she is withdrawing it because everything she does is for the kids, and in their best interest.
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In her mind she is ALREADY doing what she thinks is best. In her narcissistic, sociopathically twisted thinking "It is a lawsuit that I feel is necessary in order to protect myself and my children both now and in the future."
I don't understand her thinking and never will, but she feels justified in doing this. Her compulsion to be right and never apologize or admit a wrong trumps every bit of logic. Heck, from her jumbled and confusing blog post it's easy to see her illogical thinking.
Even her much trumpeted and supposed all encompassing love for her children can't outweigh her absolute hate for and need to punish Jon. And, for what? Exposing the truth? smh
You know this got me thinking about my divorce, my friends and family gave me about 6-8 months to moan & cry and were very supportive THEN told me to get over it, move on and unless something serious happened they were done hearing about it. It was the kick in the butt I needed and the ex and I were actually able to start communicating like adults again and our kids were much happier for it!!
There were a couple of episodes for me. I'd never heard of the show until the spring of '08. When I started watching, TLC was playing reruns ad naseum so you could catch up very quickly. The Toys R Us episode where she told Jon to stay where he was with the tups while she went off to look for something and then she screams at him that she needs him where she was. WTF. You told him to stay where he was (which he did) and then you bark at him that you need him over there. Which is it? Another episode was when they were having family pictures taken at Beth and Bob's house. Jon put the clothes upstairs and Kate, while she sat on her lilly white ass, asked Jon what good they did up there and demanded he get them. Meanwhile, she did NOTHING. Another one I can think of right now is when she left poor Collin in the his bedroom, in the dark on the potty or when she left poor Joel in the dark on the cold laundry floor when he was sick. Holy crap! She is a cruel, cruel woman.
Admin,
After 4 years most divorced couples have moved on. TFW is bitter and can't get over Jon. He was the only man she could control (even for such a short time until he finally came to his senses).
Until she moves on, starts dating someone and really puts those children first then the healing can begin. Until then, she'll always be the butt of the joke and a tag line.
So she wants people to beheld accountable for their actions interesting.
Does she realize that door should and can swing both ways?
Nancy I think you have good friends.
There will be a completely understandable grieving period afterward that everyone should be patient about. But to support and encourage a woman to remain stuck in an endless cycle of a nasty and bitter divorce long after it's over is simply not healthy.
Pick up the pieces and get on with your life. You're wasting it. A good friend would encourage their friend to move on.
Ex Nurse...
It's a fallacy to assume that all abuse victims want absolute secrecy and privacy just as it's a fallacy to assume that all of them want to go public. It depends on the kid. Reactions to abuse are as varied as snowflakes, you can see this even within the same family.
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There is a big difference between absolute privacy and secrecy and splashing their sad story in tabloid news and watching GMA host laughing. This is not being covered as a story of abuse--it is being covered as a sensationalist he said, she said story. As far as reactions and snowflakes, there will be time for this when they are adults and can process what has happened. This is when Kate will get her true payback. Why now? Let the kids have the short time left of their childhoods. There will be time for all of this later, if they choose.
As far as the Sandusky situation, the story was not covered when they were children. Sad that that the abuse, which was known, was kept a secret by those who should have been looking out for their welfare. But spreading it to tabloids and tell-all books would not have brought them what they needed.
RH has said that he has reported the abuse to CPS. For all we know, they may have intervened. And, for all we know, the abuse may have stopped. Her kids are of the age where there just aren't the frustrations and triggers as there are with little ones. And, they seem to have learned to appease her with their endless fawning and shrieks of joy.
I am all for the kids suing TLC, and TFW, for the continued exploitation of their imploding family. I give credit to Jon that he stopped the filming, and, hopefully, his kids will too.
I am surprised that Paul Petersen hasn't weighed in on this mess, with a plea for privacy.
Yes admin I do and I am extremely thankful for it. I believe in surrounding myself with people who not only support, love and encourage me but also call me out on my crap the trick is you have to be willing to listen and hear what they are saying lol
What's interesting about her statement is that she seems to be trying to establish that she only discovered Jon's involvement recently. And yet, she is on the record publicly stating she knew about the hacking and wire tapping and hard drive theft back in 2009? Or was it 2010? It really doesn't matter because the federal sol on CFAA is 2 years.
Once again, Kate is trying to lie and spin things to work in her favor. I think she's in for a rude awakening.
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She did not write that post but someone helped her,maybe Stevie?
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It sure has the Kate feel to it. Maybe she had Cara review the post, correct her errors and remove the explanation points. It sounds like something she wrote after she had been drinking. I agree with an earlier poster that thinks now that the kids are back in school, there is no way to keep them from hearing about mom suing dad from their peers. Kate can’t turn off internet access on everyone’s phone.
It also made it possible that when my kids graduated (1 last year 1 this year) there is a photo of the 4 of us with smiles because I believe it is important for my kids to have because on some level we will always be a family.
That's what makes me so mad about TFW she is robbing her kids of so many things both now and in the future and just seems to not give a crap
Another point about having the abuse exposed IN TFW's own words is that narcissists are expert gaslighters.
"Gaslighting is a strange-sounding term which refers to the way in which abusers such as Narcissistic Mothers lie to you, by word or deed, intentionally or not intentionally, to convince you that your version of reality is not right.It can make the victim feel as if she's going crazy. If your perceptions of reality are constantly denied, and above all, denied by your mother, the person you look up to and who you think knows everything, it is very, very head-wrecking and crazy-making."
Their "mother" has a world platform to stand on in order to spew her version, HER truth. What do THOSE kids have? THIS BOOK THAT IS IN HER OWN WORDS. Maybe, just maybe M's persona of being a b*%$# (on the internet) can be justified, maybe C & A's expulsion and violent tendencies can be justified, etc....
maybe this abuse that will be published and plastered all over the media will let these kids know IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT
JoyInVirginia said:
For Big Brother fans, what did you think of Thursday nights show? How about Julie Chens interview with the evicted house guest? I was very impressed with Julie. Check out the live feed summaries if you don't want to wait until Sunday to know who won Head of Household. I think fans will be very entertained this week, the twists and turns are fun to watch.
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That was a different kind of eviction. I was wondering how Julie was going to handle those interviews with the evicted house guests that made racial comments. That was a little uncomfortable but necessary. Julie did a good job when calling her out. Last night was just the first. There are many more to come and they have no clue what they are stepping into once they come out that door. I hope Julie calls EVERYBODY out because I have been reading a lot of blogs and one person seems to be getting a pass about her behavior and comments. I don’t subscribe to the live feed but have taped the afterhours show and will try to search the winner of HOH because I can’t wait until Sunday. I hope it is someone that can finally make a big play. It’s hard to write about a topic without spoiling anything.
Oh good grief, her statement is BELOW her cookbook ads. Sheesh
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proportions of hate that have led to an extremely inaccurate and untrue public perception of me and occurrences in my life
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This woman has no idea how she has presented herself in public or on t.v.
I hope a judge (or a court ordered Psychiatrist)helps refresh her piss poor memory by forcing her to watch all the videos of her horribly embarrassing, abusive, and poor behavior.
Making "memories" on t.v. has backfired.
She should have worked on happy-ing up her attitude first.
The only reason the Sandusky victims weren't children when it came out is because PEOPLE HID THE ABUSE. Had the abuse not been hidden so egregiously it would have come out when they were still children. It's a TRAGEDY they weren't still children when it came out, so they could be protected against future abuse. It had nothing to do with waiting to disclose it until they were old enough to handle it.
Secondly, the abuse was all but forgotten until Kate decided to disturb a sleeping dog, so it's really on her. It was her decision to put the story out there again, not ours. I assume she is okay with the subject being discussed again since she consented to the discussion. I am tired of the messengers being blamed instead of Kate being blamed. SHE did the abuse, not us. No one else is to be blamed or shamed about this abuse and no one should be blamed for talking about it. If it helps one parent to question whether perhaps their own behavior is abusive, it was a good thing. This is just what the San Diego mayor did when he was caught, blamed everyone else for talking about it as if it's somehow the public's fault for discuss bad things. I really could not believe my ears. He deserved ever sociopathic narcissist comment he got for that crap.
How far do you take this anyway. Maybe nothing bad should ever be talked about because someone could be hurt by the talk. I just can't buy into that philosophy.
SHE made the bed and to blame anyone else is delusional.
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Yes. She made her bed, now she needs to pull the covers up over her head, STFU and disappear.
I'm going to respond to those that are under the opinion that the book shouldn't come out because it could harm the children. When you are abused as a child, the shame and embarrassment is very isolating. You think no one else is going through it so who would understand? You blame yourself. I wish someone, anyone, would have come to my defense to make the abuse stop but that never happened. My mother should have been called out for her behavior but she never was. My aunt would make comments now and then about my mother being too hard on me but my mother's attitude was that I deserved it. I don't want to see these kids have to suffer in silence anymore. Perhaps they will feel more comfortable talking about it when it's all out in the open and they can get the help that they so desperately need.
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What don't you get ex-nurse?? It IS in the best interest of THESE kids!! It is in the best interest of the public to know just how far this all goes.
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I was reading from bottom up, so just got to your comment. My point is that it is already out there. I am sorry if this is frustrating you--I agree with most of what is posted. On this, it is a matter of degree. Their school, I am sure is aware. Their extended family is aware. CPS is aware. Anyone who follows this story is aware. The viewing audiences of GMA, and other news outlets are now aware.
This story is being covered as a salacious celebrity divorce, not the story of abused, exploited children. What don't you get, Vanessa? If the media begins to cover this as a story of abuse and exploitation, then, I agree that there may be some value in it.
As gratifying as it is to hear major media figures chortling in glee at her allegations, it breaks my heart that it is in the same breath as their abuse.
RH offered the book for preview to any media outlet before the release. If anyone took him up on it, they have chosen not to cover it.
Oh good grief, her statement is BELOW her cookbook ads. Sheesh
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OH REALLY. I wonder if the bulk of the purpose of this whole thing was just to get cookbook sales. No tweets today, what she's not going to even link to her pathetic "press release"?
Someone else said she will withdraw it. I'm starting to think that too. She'll use this to create just enough buzz to jump start the cookbook sales then withdraw it at the 11th hour. I bet this lawsuit will be gone in 6 weeks, we'll see.
She's despicable.
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