James Cameron went to the bottom of the ocean yesterday. And Cindy Cardella, super-cruiser and Kate's PR person for the cruise, went to the bottom of the barrel.
In addition to the (lame) activities Alice Travel promises cruise-goers with Kate, Cindy is now sending e-mails around promising anyone who signs up they will be able to be able "to sit, have a cup of tea and get to know her. Kate would love to meet her fans." Oh, and, oopsie daisy, Cindy is forgetting to BCC her emails, exposing twenty-six potential clients' names and e-mail addresses to each other. Good one, Cindy. Just like last week when she tweeted a potential client's last name.
So, would tea time with Kate and fans be enough to draw you in?
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Long Island Iced Tea time?? Hell to the yeah!!!
Early AM of a sleepless night. I am all caught up. Great posts. Dallas Lady, I loved the sunflower house story. I enjoyed all the gardening stories.
You are all entertaining. Please, I would love more posts from Kate's Cleaning Lady -- you are hilarious.
Have a great day, all!
DebbieDowner4 - would the cost of the Long Island Iced Tea be included in the cruise package, or would be be paying a la carte for that? (and, if included, what serving size is provided?)
WHO baked the cake - Shoka? And we just found out one of the kiddos is a little dyslexic? TMI Khate!
Now she wants to wreck another of MY fav 'traditions', tea time? I would barf in my elegant china tea cup if she was sitting at a table with me.
The disgust I feel for this person gives me NO wiggle room for any other feelings for or about her. Her entitlement and greed far surpass anything I have ever seen in a dozen people put together.
YUK, just YUK!!!!!! !!
ex., got 10/10 ratings for all eight (count 'em, 8) of her kids, well, except for C&M (as usual, they don't count unless she NEEDS the higher number). And as far as her only posting menus the kids liked...as they are just kids, why does it matter if all of THEM liked a meal? That doesn't make a meal bad because a couple of HER kids didn't like it. NOTE to HER: your kids are special in YOUR eyes only, their opinions are no more important than the ones of my neighbor down the street that I ALSO have never met. Peoples attitude about you might change if you could just realize this, you and your kids are NOT special.
Being a publicized circus is what gets you attention. The fact that their ethnic look doesn't match yours and if you didn't dress the tups alike, most people seeing you on the street would just glance and see a middle aged daycare worker with a bunch of children.
Do us and yourself a HUGE favor, GET OVER YOURSELF! You're NOT ALL THAT AND A CUP OF TEA!
adding to my previous post -
I realized that I saw a tweet up in the top section of this blog that other people reading at a different time may not see, and my dyslexic comment would make no sense.
Khate tweeted that one of the tups thought the number on the cake was "73", not "37", and she did use the child's name. (at 7:45am EDT, the feed says "33 minutes ago".) I won't name the child.
I know sometimes I blab about something on TV here on the east coast before west coasters can watch, but I'm watching my dose of the Today show and Christy Brinkley (sp?) is on talking about the still, ongoing drama after divorce.
After watching Kate make so many appearances, this is so fascinating on SO MANY LEVELS.
Matt Lauer pulled no punches, unlike any interview that any of them did with Kate. Everything we've always wanted to be asked of Kate was asked of Brinkley in a pointed and even accusatory manner.
Then she cried and he relented (sound familiar).
The interesting thing is that Brinkley's ex has been diagnosed by the court as having NPD and she's ready to pull her hair out. "Google divorcing a narcissist" she implored.
I don't want to give it all away, but it's fascinating to see this from another perspective and to see another high profile couple roll around in the he said/she said manure pit.
If not Kate, then at least someone is asking the right questions, sticking up for the poor kids who will no doubt see the mud slinging someday.
I'll try to follow up with a link to the Today Show. I'm sure it's going to go somewhat viral.
Barbee #5 - "Being a publicized circus is what gets you attention. The fact that their ethnic look doesn't match yours and if you didn't dress the tups alike, most people seeing you on the street would just glance and see a middle aged daycare worker with a bunch of children."
LOL! A middle aged daycare worker with a bunch of children!
Maybe she can start Dysfunctional Daycare? (my first thought was Mommie Dearest Daycare...)
Are you saying that she only has 26 people going on this cruise.... or is this another 26 potential clients on top of what she already has? Sorry....haven't been following lately....getting bored with Kates uninteresting life...wish she would start another twitter war or SOMETHING....
Debbie, long island ice tea, oh yeah! Great summer drink for sitting outside and people watching. Even if I were drunk, Ms Kreider would still be boring. I am still mystified as to how anyone would be interested in watching other people raise their little kids. I raised my own kids, don't need to relive those days.
You couldnt pay me enough to sit at a table with that witch.
Koopdedoo6
Maybe the tup was trying (risking his life) to be funny by transposing the numbers. It's possible.
Kate's first twit of the day:
GM!Just told my kids I'm 'still 36!' Joel said, 'Oh,Hannah thought the cake said 73'..(alrdy baked my cake). Leave it 2 my kids! Thx, guys!
So her birthday is tomorrow but she already baked and decorated a cake for herself yesterday? Guess she is getting excited for the big day.
I wonder if the Kate cruisers will have to sign a CA? Kate will have to be "on" day after day after day. I don't see her maintaining the facade. I can see many "that's not part of it" moments.
Philly.com has a post up (sorry, technologically-ish unliterate-kateism) can't do a linkyish thingee, called her a Philadelphian (way to alienate Philadelphia) and said they had watched her in the old days making sandwiches by the dozen. Yeah right, two sandwiches quartered doesn't even make a dozen pieces and that's what she made for her eight (count 'em, 8) kids.
Can ANY of these wonderful jounalists EVER get the facts right about this broad? WTH am I thinking, they're talking about her, no need to have facts, straight or otherwise. She changes the facts twice in the same sentence.
Yay! I can post again! Now what was I going to say........Thanks, Admin.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/03/raising-sextuplets-cheating-mom-married-boyfriend-jennifer-masche
More "celebs" who won't STFU about his ex is Bryan Masche. This guy is a piece of work. Let me summarize:
Dad= good
Mommy= bad
I feel no pity for any of them, just the kids.
What a difference a year makes! Last year she spent a drunken bday with Jamie and TLC. Now she will spend it with twitter.
As far as the tea time goes, I hope this time the oh-so-refined Kate calls it a 'sugar cube' instead of a 'sugar block'.
If she has so little fans attending she will get PLENTY of one-on-one time with all her adoring fans. Those few fans are going to make Kate earn every penny they are paying her.
How close are they going to the Bermuda Triangle?
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Happy birthday this week to Kate Gosselin, mother of eight, reality TV star of note - and one of the most controversial living native Philadelphians, ever. As she turns 37 this Wednesday (really? Only 37?), we fondly recall her time on TLC, when she built sandwiches by the dozen and always seemed to be on her way to a pedicure. There are things we're grateful for, such as Gosselin's change from that frighteningly spiky-yet-smooth 'do. And there are things we could have lived without, such as her temper tantrums and awkward turn on "Dancing with the Stars." Then there are the things we wonder about: Is she dating her bodyguard? And, most important, how will those poor kids turn out? But, for now, we're wishing Kate, still plus eight but minus Jon, a happy enough day and year. 'Tis the week of notorious celebrity birthdays: Tuesday, former Eagles QB Randall Cunningham tosses 49
The crazy starts SO early in the morning these days. Kate just tweeted a pic of her abraded finger (with blue glitter nails, oh my!), which she claimed is a result of overzealously cleaning the hood over her oven.
I seriously don't believe that she has been forced to cut the housekeeper yet. She must be reprising the q-tips in the refrigerator episode and working up a big head of steam, the better to ream out whatever help is unfortunate enough to be in her presence today.
The odor of her desperation is so strong, I can smell it from here.
Kate is not a native Philadelphian. Nowhere near. Philly proper is a pretty big city and once you get beyond the Main Line, you are not from Philly.
She's from another region of PA altogether.
And wow, first she insults Kate's looks, then implies she's screwing around with a married guy and finally wishes her (minus Jon... when will people stop trotting out the +/- chestnut? Not clever or ironic anymore) a great bday and year!!
Kate's Tweet with Picture:
Grr....Was over zealously cleaning the hood of my range..it gets me every X even tho I'm careful! Stove looks fab tho! http://t.co/DGY0ySZC
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Yeah, like anyone believes that Kate would
a.) Clean her own stove, and
b.) Risk messing up her tacky manicure.
It doesn't even look like a real injury. If it is, why isn't she getting herself a bandaid instead of tweeting a picture of it. So Pathetic!
Kate just tweeted a pic of her abraded finger (with blue glitter nails, oh my!), which she claimed is a result of overzealously cleaning the hood over her oven.
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I worked in my yard cutting back some grasses and got poison ivy. Damn, I should have taken a pic of the oozing and infection!! Just so you guys could see just how hard I toil!!!!
abc said... 12
Maybe the tup was trying (risking his life) to be funny by transposing the numbers. It's possible.
abc -
While I agree, it is possible that a child was trying to be funny ("if Mommy is going ballistic about turning 37, what if we say she is even older?"), I just don't see it with these kids. I think any humor attempts would get them punished because Mommy doesn't understand the humor.
JMO.
If Kate thinks that little scrape on her finger is an injury or worthy of a picture and sympathy, she needs to get a life and quick.
Good grief. She just further proves she has no idea what real work is.
Oh my freaking gosh.
Blue glitter?? What happened....TLC not paying for her manicures anymore. Heaven forbid..I hope she can find the money to tan herself....oh the tragedy....
Omg...I don't know which is more pathetic, her wearing the twins' blue glitter nail polish or the little boo-boo on her finger. Who takes a picture of that????
Admin: I didn't know that about MTM being almost blind. I really admired her coping with diabetes so I'm sorry to hear this.
Who would take a picture of THAT? Someone who has nothing going on in her life. No family, no friends, no job...... If thats the most interesting thing she can find to talk about.....well then..she has too much time on her hands...GET A JOB ASSHOLE....
I haven't seen any tweets asking where to send Kate a bday gift.
Maybe that part of grifting is finally over.
Poor Kate.
Little bit different than last yr!
Tucker's Mom, 23 -- I have a patch of poison ivy blisters too. Let's compare. Send me a picture of yours, please. This is so exciting!! I never though of a photo of a mediocre wound. What have I been missing?
No word of Jamie visiting to celebrate Kate's bday. Yes, a really big change from last year, not that I think Kate's bday celebration last year was the cat's pajamas. It's not my cup of tea. Yuck, packed into a meat market in my mid 30's. No thanks. Nothing appealing at all. Sweating, yelling, licking, crap rail liquor. That shit got old in my 20's.
The best bday is family and friends-- something homey and REAL.
I do wonder if Jamie just had it with Kate, and is done traveling to PA to see her. Who knows, maybe they still get together.
Wow, between Cindy and Kate, this cruise is doomed. Can't believe Cindy hasn't been fired.
Kate looks pretty in the above pic...liked her hair so much better that way.
Dmasy, ugh poison ivy. I never got it until a couple years ago and never realized just how bad you can react. Both times I wound up on prednisone and this time I scratched it and it wound up infected, so that meant antibiotics.
DH and I have so much landscaping work planned, and are determined to do it ourselves after having a Master Gardener come out to help us with a game plan and design.
DH has to do all the clearing by himself though. Once the poison ivy is gone, I'm ready to get in there up to my elbows.
Would love to build a sunflower house ;-) How cool is that?
aggiemom09121416 said... 29
I haven't seen any tweets asking where to send Kate a bday gift.
Maybe that part of grifting is finally over.
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I'm sure her "regulars" know where to send their love and adoration...in gift form.
She will never give up grifting, it is in her blood.
Tucker's Mom said... 7
I know sometimes I blab about something on TV here on the east coast before west coasters can watch, but I'm watching my dose of the Today show and Christy Brinkley (sp?) is on talking about the still, ongoing drama after divorce.
After watching Kate make so many appearances, this is so fascinating on SO MANY LEVELS.
Matt Lauer pulled no punches, unlike any interview that any of them did with Kate. Everything we've always wanted to be asked of Kate was asked of Brinkley in a pointed and even accusatory manner.
Then she cried and he relented (sound familiar).
The interesting thing is that Brinkley's ex has been diagnosed by the court as having NPD and she's ready to pull her hair out. "Google divorcing a narcissist" she implored.
I don't want to give it all away, but it's fascinating to see this from another perspective and to see another high profile couple roll around in the he said/she said manure pit.
If not Kate, then at least someone is asking the right questions, sticking up for the poor kids who will no doubt see the mud slinging someday.
I'll try to follow up with a link to the Today Show. I'm sure it's going to go somewhat viral.
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Saw all of that Tucker's Mom. Thought Matt was unnecessarily rough on Christie, but she was talking so much he couldn't even finish a question...I did feel sorry for her, though...her situation is kind of reverse of the Jon/Kate one. This is the FIRST time she's ever been on t.v. to talk about the divorce, whereas that jerk of an ex-husband of hers has been on all the talk shows putting her down. Also intereting is that her ex has been diagnosed as being extremely narcissistic...don't remember the term for it, but you probably do it.
Also, I think Kate was always treated w/ kid gloves because of NBC's ties to TLC. Interesting that now Kate is "divorced" from TLC, she hasn't been back on the Today Show.
Admin: Those 26 are potential cruisers right? The confirmed number is 20. That's what I understood from your post last night on the other thread.
*probably do...not do it.
Kate tells people all the time "welcome to my zoo"? What people? Who visits her? She has no family or friends to speak of. I never believed Jamie was a close friend. I thought they may have been acquaintances and TLC just played that up to make it look like Kate had close friends.
Judy K: yes, she looked much better then. My favorite look for her was when she had the make-over after the tummy tuck- short blond highlights with wispy bangs. And, she actually seemed happy to see her kids again. (Alexis- Hi Mommy?, Hi?) So cute.
But now, ugh. Fake, not age-appropriate and tacky.
Once a Viewer said... 27
Admin: I didn't know that about MTM being almost blind. I really admired her coping with diabetes so I'm sorry to hear this.
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There's been talk of that for years--she's had lots of diabetic-related problems.
Wanted you all to know (posted on the other thread) that she has a new movie coming out this weekend (Sunday) w/ Valarie Harper..."Rhoda and Mary"...starts at 8:00 p.m. EST on Hallmark Channel.
Don't know how much she hid before Mr.Murt put a stop to her assholery and made her pay the kids their measly 15% But l have this from when the kids worked on the Kate+8 after Jon unsuccessfully tried to stop the kids from working. My math is not good, so if l'm wrong feel free to correct me;
Season 1 - 4 Episodes... Aug 30/2010 - Sept 12/2010.
Season 2 - 20 Episodes...Nov.28/2010 - Sept12/2010
That's 24 Episodes @ $250.000 = $6 million!
15% for the kids = $900.000 or $157.000 each.
She can live off that and all the other money she socked away for a very long time if l am correct. Not much for the kids though after all the years they worked.
*It's Valerie...not Valarie...my brain can't wake up this a.m.
I thought Lauer was a bully. The interview made me sick to watch. Did he feel like a big man making her cry? Juxtaposed with the kid-glove Kate interviews, the whole thing was odd. How do they decide whom to publicly flog and whom to give a pass?
I don't get the picture of a very minor boo boo. Did she feel the need to prove she literally scrapped her fingers cleaning because we call her lazy? I should post pictures of my scrapped knee and dried up hands if she wants to see what real housework does to your skin. Geez!
I suppose her tweeties will be adoring today. She'll brag about the kids giving her a wonderful gift X 8.
20 people??????????? OMG....that is pathetic...why bother? I would just cancel if I was her....too humiliating. Whats her spin gonna be on this latest failure? Can't wait...hard to be "determined and positive" with those numbers. Lets not forget she had to drag her daughters into this mess and still bad number...time to update that resume...
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and say WOW how fresh and relaxed Kate looked in that picture above. I didn't like the spikey in the back part of her 'do', but I did love that first makeover cut from after her tummy tuck. She looked so excited about being not so mousy. Now she looks like a middle aged wanna-be barbie doll.
I don't do heavy duty cleaning with a manicure but have in the past and the polish would be chipped and looked awful, not freshly applied like her thumb.
I'm guessing by the looks of that horrendously horrendous booboo that Kate's maid is in for a world ic hurt soon
MammaKnows #43 -
I agree, that Matt Lauer/Christie Brinkley interview was difficult to watch. Wonder what axe he has to grind with her? It was like watching a pitbull.
Teresa...probably a good portion of that went to the tax man. If thats what she was actually making. I always found that figure hard to believe...also..I've always thought she had a lot of legal fees...who knows....
JudyK said... 32
Wow, between Cindy and Kate, this cruise is doomed. Can't believe Cindy hasn't been fired.
I don't think Cindy will be fired any time soon. As per Preesi's diligent detective work her mother owns and is the president of the agency affiliated with Alice Travel, and Cindy is VP. Sorry, couldn't find the thread it was on.
Will this be Kate in 6-12 months?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/27/octomom-poses-nude-nadya-suleman-losing-home/
Kate looked great in that photo above. So fresh.
Christie Brinkley is really caught in a catch-22. Her ex sounds like a piece of work. What people go through divorcing narcissists is bad enough, but to have kids involved makes it so much more difficult due to the manipulation.
Why is it the narcissist gets all the sympathy... I know, they are that good at what they do. It's like when Jon did almost any interview discussing Kate-- he was nailed to the wall.
I think he finally wised up and realized that trying to go up against Kate was futile and did nothing but feed her exactly what she wanted.
Judy K: Thanks. I'll be sure to watch that! I like both actresses although I know VH is not popular among some SAG people. But I like what I like, so thanks for the heads-up.
lol, Kate reminds me of a small kid, 'look at my ouchie everyone!" Probably will be unable to make a 10/10 meal with that injury. Oh well, maybe there's a can-o-beans in the newly organized pantry.
I'm really confused and don't want to start something going around that isn't true.
This is from last night:
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...
DL is was a "please sign up" email so I'm guessing this is her list of potentials. I just did a quick count and I count 26.
So that's 20 signed up, and 26 "maybes" who are going to be definite NOs after this.
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I'm trying to find out of the "20 signed up" is confirmed or is that number just what we have come up with on our own??
Very confusing.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-03-22-mtm-diabetes_N.htm (forgot to add to above post)
Link re: MTM and diabetes. Sorry, OT. I might order the book from Amazon.
I'm trying to find out of the "20 signed up" is confirmed or is that number just what we have come up with on our own??
Very confusing.
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It's not a number we came up with on our own. A fan said that on twitter and posted the email from Cindy to prove it. C said something like we have a good group of 20.
That finger wound apparated.
STIGMATA!
It's not Cindys fault she got stuck with a washed up, dried up, reality has-been....and I mean that in a nice way...Ha...
Admin, thanks. I must have missed that it came from Cindy.
What a paltry group.
I wonder how many of the 26 were just fishing for info with no intention of going? I also wonder what Cindy is going to come up with next as an enticement...maybe monkey munch and sleepover in her cabin. They could paint each others nails blue.
Kat @ 150...I guess so. Maybe Dallas Lady could figure it out. She's amazing with numbers.
Admin, The figure was in the copy of email that the woman who's last name Cindy posted.
1st post top of page 47.
http://preesi.lefora.com/2012/01/06/will-it-ever-end-kate-gosselin-cruise/page47/
Kat @ 50, not 150 No sleep last night. Sorry
This has probably been asked before but I missed it...does anyone know if there's a minimuim before they cancel?
I'm sorry yes it was THIRTY.
I can see wrinkle even if the kids cannot;
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sites/nationalenquirer.com/files/imagecache/node_page_image/article_images/kate_story_31.jpg
As requested here's the email:
Cruise with Kate! Cabins won’t last! Get your Deposit in Before it is too Late!
Book your 2012 Summer Vacation with Ms. Kate Gosselin and be able to sit, have a cup of tea and get to know her. Kate would love to meet her fans and what better way then to Cruise the Western Caribbean. Don’t miss out on this once in a life time opportunity!
Check out the ship!
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Go to KateGosselinCruise.com for more info or call me at 1-800-388-SAIL!
Best Regards,
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'received an impromptu stage act by Mady..'37&No Wrinkles' -- a sing/dance broadway esque performance! Hysterical!'- a tweet from Kate re: Mady's talent yet again...???
i see she posted the injured finger tweet twice so no one would miss it , lol
30 Sheeple Sailing said... 62
Admin, The figure was in the copy of email that the woman who's last name Cindy posted.
1st post top of page 47.
http://preesi.lefora.com/2012/01/06/will-it-ever-end-kate-gosselin-cruise/page47/
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From Cindy:
Thank you for emailing me. We would love to have you join us. Right now we have about 30 people going. It is a perfect size group to really get to know Kate…………
Hilarious. A perfect size? That's certainly not the perfect size for the normal celebrity cruise. Whoever came up with this lamebrain scheme must be kicking themselves.
By the way, Cindy emailed someone this morning apologizing for not BCCing.
At least she apologized, but the damage has been done. Her carelessness has already exposed 26 people to the viciousness of the sheeple and non-fans.
If she means the perfect size to drive Kate INSANE she's absolutely right and I would love to see it. Kate will have no excuse not to get to know each and every one of her fans with a small group like that. Have at it, Kate!
She is a Cow said... 22
Kate's Tweet with Picture:
Grr....Was over zealously cleaning the hood of my range..it gets me every X even tho I'm careful! Stove looks fab tho! http://t.co/DGY0ySZC
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Yeah, like anyone believes that Kate would
a.) Clean her own stove, and
b.) Risk messing up her tacky manicure.
It doesn't even look like a real injury. If it is, why isn't she getting herself a bandaid instead of tweeting a picture of it. So Pathetic!
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According to her, they had a "weeding project" on Sunday, and now scrubbing the hood on her stove on Monday...with that manicure? I think not! And who has 7-year-olds pulling weeds, anyway? We did some weeding in our yard last weekend, and the younger kids just didn't get the idea of pulling out the roots so they don't grow back. They were just tearing them off at ground level. So, they jumped on the trampoline whole Dad and Mom did the weeding.
So, why is Kate suddenly doing (or claiming to do) real work now? The lawn service would normally do the weeding, not the 7-year-olds. And the maid would be the one scrubbing the hood on the stove and doing the spring cleaning she blogged about. Why the change? Perhaps money is getting scarce and she's trying to cut back by doing some actual work herself...
I agree, TLC and those fat pay-cheques agreed with Kate, she does look so relaxed in the photo above. She now has a look of bitterness, anger and loss etched in to her drawn, orange face. I personally think she still has a hefty bank balance, what she mourns, and shows on her face now, is the look of loss; the loss of fame.
Posting a picture of a scraped finger, and sharing the fact that she baked her own birthday cake pretty much sums up what she has going on these days. Twitter is her platform, it's her way to stay relevant,....for now. Never forget, her belief is her new television gig is just around the corner, she embraces that above all else. Her life remains suspended in this delusional thinking.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 71
If she means the perfect size to drive Kate INSANE she's absolutely right and I would love to see it. Kate will have no excuse not to get to know each and every one of her fans with a small group like that. Have at it, Kate!
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So true. I love it. I can't help but wonder if Kate pictured herself on stage on the ship, rambling on and on about her magnificence to a full house? Now she'll have to hold court at Starbucks if her fans can afford a cup of coffee and the tip.
So there are only 26 people going on this cruise to see her specifically? Pretty pathetic...but kind of what I would expect.
koopedoo - number reversal is common at their age, although it's something they should be growing out at this point, so if I were their teacher I'd advise the parents to look into testing for learning differences. Dyslexia is actually a developmental reading disorder and can encompass a wide range of difficulties. Confusing or transposing letters is just one symptom and doesn't occur in all dyslexics. Sorry for the lesson, I just wanted to share more about a very common but misunderstood learning issue.
Thanks for you explanation of the tweet. It's really easy for rumors to get started here and suddenly I could just see it plastered on Radar "Kate's kids have special needs!" I don't know if they do or not and I'm certainly not trying to start that discussion again, but they've also had enough invasion of their privacy and I try to stop rumors where I can.
"Kate would love to meet her fans"? That claim is as bogus as Cardella's travel agent skills.
Kate RUNS from her fans! No way she will willingly sit through "tea" or anything else with them. If she's forced to, she'll alienate everyone she comes into contact with.
She's a loose cannon unless someone else is managing her. Let's hope for Kate's sake that they don't get their 30 minimum. If Kate cancels, her name will be mud, but if she goes, the damage will be much more lasting.
It looks as if Cardella is still avoiding breaking out the extra costs.
People here and elsewhere have discussed the huge charges for beverages, but Cardella's also danging "surfing", zip-line and other "experiences" that involve long lines and may involve extra charges.
Will Katie and her group be comped all these extra costs? Or is she going to get a shocker of a bill at the end of the cruise, too?
Those sheeple are up for one good fleecing. Maybe we should hope it gets canceled for their sake, too.
"dangling", sorry.
Retweeting a marriage proposal last night was one of the most pathetic things I've seen Kate do (on Twitter).
Tweeting the picture of the tiny abrasion on her finger was the second most pathetic thing.
As someone else said, what a difference a year makes. Guess this year she'll be getting drunk alone in her room instead of on camera. No NY trip. No foot licking. No being mean and dismissive to random people.
Not even 40 and no career, no prospects, washed up.
She's a loose cannon unless someone else is managing her. Let's hope for Kate's sake that they don't get their 30 minimum. If Kate cancels, her name will be mud, but if she goes, the damage will be much more lasting.
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Is that what RC requires for a celebrity cruise to go forward?
I remember her saying once that TLC paid for all of her gardening...I guess this is just another result of TLC cutting off all the freebies....she's too cheap to pay someone to take care of that property....I also believe they paid for her "help" and tons of other things...she must be totally lost...and majorly pissed....she is truely on her own...she can't possibly take care of that massive property by herself....it must cost a fortune. we'll see how she sustains this illusion of "surviving on her own"....when I here about all the mondane things she's been doing latey....she obviously has less resources....
How would you even scrape your finger like that - unless you were gripping a scrubber too tightly. Maybe she pretends it's Jon's head.
That ROL article is interesting. Same people who defend Kate are now basically accusing that Masche guy of behaving the same way and saying it's his own fault his wife left. But with Kate, they blame Jon. Ummmm.........
I thought there was a group of "about 30" confirmed (from the email that Cindy C sent to the woman she eventually outed). If that's all they have, then that's not a lot of money for Kate. There's no way she's going on a ship and rubbing elbows with her mediocre fans without Steve there to make her behave. Does that even give her enough money to pay his hefty fee? What about paying someone to watch over C & M? And a nanny for the 6 left at home? She could end up with very little or nothing from this. Perhaps she'll do it for a free cruise, but she'll be so miserable being stuck interacting with all those fawning sycophants she'll probably be ready to jump overboard by Day 2.
Dallas Lady said... 79
Retweeting a marriage proposal last night was one of the most pathetic things I've seen Kate do (on Twitter).
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I agree. Is she thinking it's impressing her fans or that it will make Jon jealous or is she hoping it ends up on ROL? Probably all three. "Legendary Writer" has probably already written a column about it. LOL
Sorry for all the comments. I'm stuck at home waiting for a delivery. UG. I need to find something to do.
Just to clarify the numbers again as I understand them:
30 people actually signed up (per Cindy's email)
26 potentials Cindy emails to try to get them to sign up.
KAT said... 81
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After j+K separated, Jon did an interview where he pulled back the curtain and spoke about all the perks they got.
Food
Chef
Flowers
Laundry
Landscaping
We were right in saying that the kids' house was a set. Anything you'd find on an actor's set, well that's what they got.
I even believe that Kate's personal beauty routine and clothing was either provided by TLC or comped.
If she's pulling weeds after being flummoxed by using a simple garden hose, then they've stopped paying all the benefits.
I really did love when Aunt Jodi's sister was like pffffft, Kate a cook? Ha! She had them highlight her cooking when she wanted to release a cookbook.
I think the less people she has the more threatened she will be. She'll have to give them individual attention. The last thing she wants....she's gonna feel like a cornered animal....I would never put myself through all of that for a couple of thousand dollars. Although she did expect a lot more people....you know...like the book signing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....what a loser..
Teresa: that's 15% of the $240,000, Kate got. So the kids got(all 8 each episode)$36,000. Which is $4,500 each child, Kate got the rest. $204,000 is what Kate got, now don't know if this is before or after taxes, I think before. Still puts her in the million range, like $4,800,000, for 24 episodes. If one is fugal, one can live very nicely on that amount for the rest of ones life.
Think of the families who lived in a 3 bedroom houses, with 5-12, children, a dog, cat, other pets, Dad worked one job and mom either stayed home or worked a part-time job(when kids were in school). Their combined income or just dads, was probably $25,000-$48,000(this was when I was growing up in the middle 60's)Those amounts are probably = to $30,000-$75,000 today. And funny thing is, people were able to/ some were able to put their kids in private school(Catholic/Lutheran/other)and still go on vacation, pay bills, had one(station wagon) maybe 2 cars and most were happy. BBQ in the backyard, above ground pool, most had gardens(nothing like fresh home grown tomato, and other veggies), flowers. Vacation was simple, local beach, local water slide, Wisconsin Dells, day camp, camping etc and most drove there, very few flew there. Kate could easily go camping in the yard(spring break)I won't get into that, too many things she could have done JUST LAZY!
There is an inside joke at the church we attend. One of the leaders is a very energetic guy with a sort of car salesman type personality (no offense to any car salemen!)and when people sign up for something he will say "There are nearly 100 people signed up" (when it is really about 60 people) He's not really lying but really stretching the truth. He does it all the time and the numbers for the cruise made me think of it.
Add to the sad column: retweeting b-day twats, ok make that pathetic. Perhaps she baked her cake two days early because she has an escape plan for the real day. Time, and twitter, will tell.
I saw part of Matt Lauer & Christie Brinkley, she would not answer a question, just kept talking @ her own agenda, ignored him when he asked about how this affects the children. She and the ex are two of a kind IMHO, but yes, too bad K8 never got the gloves off interviews,
I thought Kate didn't want to be reminded of her birthday--you know, scary 37? Now she's re tweeting it's almost her birthday? Give me a break! Which is it?
I'm still going with she's got nobody to celebrate her birthday this year, nowhere to go so she's all upset and needs the attention. What a baby.
Marie, you are so funny! And dead-on in your posts.
Just watched the Brinkley interview. Gee, Matt Lauer sounds like a bitter divorced dad, huh.
He sounds a bit like a narcissist himself. Felt sorry for Christy Brinkley, she handled the situation very well.
Matt ought to call Kate. They deserve one another.
silimom #76:
Thanks for the lesson on dyslexia. I apologize for using the wrong word - I was only trying to make an observation.
My observation/comment was based on being raised by a mother who was an undiagnosed dyslexic until the age of about 40 (I was in high school then), and she transposed numbers (still does) on a regular basis in addition to not being able to read/write well (to me, it is part of her individual dyslexia gift). Her teachers & parents (and my dad, to some extent) told her she was not very bright. She was VERY aware that she was unable to help me or my brother with our homework (luckily, we were pretty self-sufficient) when we were grade school.
Do children almost 8 still transpose numbers? But if I think of them as still in first grade, I suppose it is still within the normal range at that grade level.
Regarding Cindy's latest mistake. When I called early on to find out about the cruise, it wasn't to harass, to be nasty, and not to assume the role of a hater. Having cruised so many times, I really was interested in finding out more about it, particularly why they were so vague on so many things, like the charity, the excursions, the gratuities, etc., and how these things would be handled. She asked for my name, address, home phone number, cell phone, work phone number, e-mail address, and other information and she would put me down as a potential cruise. I gave no information, but said if I were interested, or knew of anyone who was, I'd get in touch.
In view of Cindy's latest goof-up, thank goodness I didn't give her the info she wanted. At this point, if I were interested in the cruise, I'd be extremely reluctant to give her any kind of information, even over the phone. She's got two strikes on her right now, as far as being trusted the personal information.
In the episode where Kate tried to hie a cleaning lady but none met her standards, she claimed to clean the stove 2-3 times a day. So, her stove should be clean enough not to cause a cut on her poor finger. MY stove, well, maybe- especially after one of my husband's famous fry-ups...
As for her b-day, remember the fake surprise show where M and C arranged for the white bus to pick them all up & celebrate the big day for Kate?
I would love to see: Susie Orman take on Kate Gosselin. The downsizing war. That I would watch.
I can just see kate crying about giving up , Starbucks, landscaper, housekeeper, 2 of the 3 cars, shopping online, selling the hooker heels, buying of the expensive dresses, the hair salon in NYC, pulling the kids out of private school, etc and the biggest thing downsizing the house and getting a real job, with insurance and 8 hour work shift.
That would be worth watching. Knowing Kate she would have a breakdown.
@Maggie (from previous thread)
I got my mop from Dollarama, I don't know if you have those dollar stores where you live but here (Alberta) they are EVERYWHERE! I'm not sure what brand they are (sorry), I think they have there own brand. Its similar to a swiffer but the pads are washable, and you can also get special broom type pads for it too which work really well. Ive tried all different kinds of mops and I like this cheap one the best. I recently bought a rubbermaid one that just came out on the market and it broke the third time I used it. I have hardwood floors and I wash them nearly everyday (especially now when kids and dogs are bringing in spring mud) so I usually just use hot water, sometime I put a touch of vinegar in it too.
Perhaps she'll do it for a free cruise, but she'll be so miserable being stuck interacting with all those fawning sycophants she'll probably be ready to jump overboard by Day 2.
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Let's see, 30 people means they might have to push two banquet tables together at 'tea-time'. Will they communicate in shortened twitterspeak sentences?
Really, what the hell would they have to talk about after 5 minutes? Maybe they'll just sit and stare at their idol? It's all so creepy.
I just watched the interview with Christie Brinkley. Holy cow! WHY didn't he interview Kate like that the multiple times she was on - SHE is the one who kept it public!
The interview afterward with that pastor was interesting. I LOVE what he said, "If you live in the past, you are allowing your history to destroy your destiny." It ain't worth it.
Koopdedoo: Dyslexia, comes in many forms and degrees. From full blown to annoying type. I have the annoying type, which means I have to re-read what I write, to catch the transposed numbers, letters and missed words. If catched early enough a child can be taught to train their brain to correct/catch it. And lead a fairly normal life. Go to school get good grades and go to college. Even some of the full blown cases have gone to college with help.
To answer your question do they stop at 8? Yes and no, if a parent/teacher catches it and corrects the child, or get the kid evaluate at school, they can start an early intervention. If they don't the kids will probably keep transposing. I did not find out I was slightly Dyslexic till I was in Jr College and my English teacher told me. It did explain a lot in why I had so much trouble learning in school. But, I did go to college and have both an A.A. and a B.A..
As for her b-day, remember the fake surprise show where M and C arranged for the white bus to pick them all up & celebrate the big day for Kate
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Didn't see that one, darn!
Kate hasn't twitted in a few hours..you think she is wearing a prom dress and hooker shoes, looking out the window for the white bus to carry her away to a big bday celebration??
As far as what $ she does has socked away, with nothing coming in (except for CC blog, which may not pay anything other than keeping her name out there) and a lot going out, the locals will be able to tell how she is dealing with her finances (yard going to pot, maybe a car or two for sale, no tanning, manis/pedis, tuition issues for the kiddos).
If Jon was paying the reported child support of 25000 a month for whatever length of time that was, that should have paid ALL her household expenses at that time. If his child support has been reduced to the reported 1000 a month, Kate is now having to pry open her own checkbook for expenses.
aggiemom09121416 said... 102
If his child support has been reduced to the reported 1000 a month, Kate is now having to pry open her own checkbook for expenses.
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....which may in turn force poor Katie to find herself one of those "mediocre" jobs back at the dialysis clinic. She said she'd go back to nursing if she had to, now let's see her do it.
Kate answering question of how much money she has:
@KitNewman
@silverlak123 @Kateplusmy8 5 million/? is this true kate?
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@KitNewman @silverlak123 I can absolutely say EVERY figure is way way way high. Only published 3 books too... All crap, but wish was true ;(
Those of you who saw the "west coast" version of The Today Show saw an edited version of Lauer's interview with Brinkley. They must have gotten a TON of complaints about Lauer's treatment of Brinkley.
She's correct.... all 3 books were crap.....
PJ's momma said... 100
I just watched the interview with Christie Brinkley. Holy cow! WHY didn't he interview Kate like that the multiple times she was on - SHE is the one who kept it public!
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Matt bullied her into talking about it, so she did and when she finally broke down and cried, he backed off and said come back sometime and we'll talk about "Chicago". What a jerk. What's HIS problem? He was lecturing her! Good thing she kept interrupting him so she could talk. Those interviewers never let anyone finish a sentence.
I guess someone tweeted her and asked how much money she made and she said that the figures out there are way too high. I tend to believe what Jon said TLC paid them, not Kate.
Kat said... 106
She's correct.... all 3 books were crap.
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AWESOME. Hilarious. lolol. good catch. That's my laugh for today. :)
Paula said... 105
Those of you who saw the "west coast" version of The Today Show saw an edited version of Lauer's interview with Brinkley. They must have gotten a TON of complaints about Lauer's treatment of Brinkley.
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Lauer is getting slammed on websites. Most support is for Brinkley.
I haven't followed this divorce at all, but I'll bet that Brinkley did not see this coming. She was there to talk about doing Chicago again and might have thought that they'd touch on her ugly divorce.
She lost control and obviously was not coached for this type of questioning.
That interview rivals Al Roker's sit down with Speidi. He was let's say, intolerant of those fools, to say the least. I cheered at that one ;-)
I may be in the minority about Matt Lauer this morning. If you have any background about Christie Brinkley and her 3 divorces, including ths one, his questions are not that surprising. Her "poor me" is disengenuous IMHO. Perhaps he knows more than his audience.
And yes, K8 should edit twatter -the linkage of 3 published book and crap, inadvertent as it were, aso gave me my morning laugh.
She lost control and obviously was not coached for this type of questioning
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She should have borrowed Kate's earpiece and had her PR person tell her what to say.
Lauer at best owes Brinkley an apology. He ambushed her, obviously she was there to promote her new venture.
Lauer sounds like a narcissist,a bully, and a bitter ex-husband. He just wouldn't let the issues about the kids go...sounds like he has issues with his own ex-wife. (I believe he got caught fooling around multiple times before the wife got tired of it and threw him out.)
I'm not sure what her 3 marriages have to do with anything??? Brinkley was not on to talk about her divorce or her ex - it was Lauer that took the conversation in a whole different direction. IMO, he was a bully and he should be held accountable for the way he treated Brinkley.
6 Nights or longer
75+ No charges
74-57 Deposit amount
56-29 50% of total price (taxes & fees excluded)*
28-15 75% of total (taxes & fees excluded)*
14 or less No refund except for taxes and fees
The above is the cancellation schedule for Royal Caribbean. If Kate pulls the plug on this cruise before May 28, 2012, a full refund will be offered by RC through Alice Travel. The deposit will be lost after that date, and as the schedule shows, the closer to the day of sailing, the cancellation charges grow larger. Kate has an escape clause, so these charges apply whether Kate goes or not.
If the passenger cancels due to a medical reason, or whatever their insurance allows, then they will be refunded through their insurer. The insurance company will NOT refund any monies if Kate decides not to go within 74 days of departure, neither will RC. The passenger will lose the amounts above depending on when, or IF Kate decides to cancel.
If Kate is reluctant to go because the numbers are not big enough, she should advise Alice Travel to cancel before the 28th of May so all monies can be refunded, no fuss, no muss. After that, see cancellation charges above.
If I were Cindy, I would make sure ALL those who have signed up fully understand what will happen if Kate cannot (if she herself, or an immediate family member falls ill) or, will not go (her ego gets in the way, or a TV gig comes along). These people will lose money on a sliding scale as shown above, or they will be taking a cruise together and talking about what might have been. Alice Travel will have a huge problem on their hands if their clients are not FULLY aware of this.
Tucker's Mom said... 31
No word of Jamie visiting to celebrate Kate's bday. Yes, a really big change from last year, not that I think Kate's bday celebration last year was the cat's pajamas. It's not my cup of tea. Yuck, packed into a meat market in my mid 30's. No thanks. Nothing appealing at all. Sweating, yelling, licking, crap rail liquor. That shit got old in my 20's.
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So Kate should celebrate her birthday the way that YOU like to celebrate yours? The bar scene isn't for me either, but I sure as hell wouldn't tell someone else not to spend their birthday in a bar because it doesn't appeal to ME. As long as the person whose birthday it is enjoys their celebration, that's all that matters.
Just occurred to me, Kate says she doesn't buy milk--but only for recipes and cereal. Wouldn't that still mean that she buys expensive organic milk to begin with?
I mean I'm no expert but...she's still buying milk to let the kids have cereal so the kids obviously still get some milk. Depends on how often she feeds them cereal I guess. And if she actually bakes in bulk (doubt it) in the end she's still buying milk whether or not it's on sale.
Anonymous said... 116
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Where on earth did I say Kate should celebrate her bday the way I would? Where did I say she should not go to NYC to a bar again?
I didn't even imply it.
If Kate has no parents, no siblings, no nieces and nephews in her life, especially on her bday, then that's sad.
Or, she can have her foot licked in a meat market. From what I saw of her sour puss on her bday last year, she wasn't having a good time at all.
Sad. Again.
Next....
Hey RADAR: Why don't you do a posting about how Kate tweets that her books are all crap. That would get some hits for ya! *LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL*
Aggiemom ...."looking out the window for the white bus to carry her away"...
and the men in white coats to take her to a white room with padded walls??? LOL
On the topic of what TLC was paying for when she was under contract with them:
I believe they were paying for a LOT. She could legitimately argue that, due to the nature of the show, their home WAS a set and everything they had, did, and showed on the show needed to be provided for by TLC.
I'm positive TLC paid for landscaping services, home maintenance, house cleaning, nannies, chef services, laundry services, hair and makeup services for Kate, transportation (leasing the BBB for them, etc). And of course, they paid for all those trips and perks AND paid her a salary per episode as well.
She was living HIGH on that hog, as they say.
And now, I do believe she is dealing with the loss of those perks. I think once the contract was over, TLC was done paying for all that stuff. They have no legal or other connection or obligation to her anymore.
So she's having to pay for the stuff she HAS to pay for (I'm quite sure she doesn't get out on a riding lawn mower to mow all the parts of the 20 acres that get mowed), but she's having to cut corners, too. Witness the kids weeding so much they were falling asleep at dinner by her own admission.
I have to wonder if she's gotten rid of or cut back on the cleaning help. The four days a week babysitter. The "laundry girl."
She's gone to Jason once for her hair since the contract ended and while he might have discounted his services, I fully believe she's now having to pay for her own hair color, cut and style. Along with the car service to NY. Notice she doesn't seem to spend the night there anymore.
Same thing for that Sirius interview: she didn't leave for DC until the crack of dawn when the Old Kate would have most definitely gone there the night before and stayed in a hotel. She also came back immediately.
All signs that she's having to pay for things herself and cut back.
She's her own first priority, so she'll give up stuff for her LAST. Her tanning, her hair, her nails, her wardrobe, her Audi sports car, all that will go last.
First to go will be anything else--the kid stuff, mostly.
The only way Kate is interesting is financially. She was someone who was admittedly struggling to make it even with two kids, her nursing job and her husband's IT job. Then they had SIX more and TLC becomes their sugar daddy. She WAS living within her means IF the TLC gravy train had continued indefinitely. Now she is living beyond her means, especially considering the fact that she has no income (I really don't think CC pays her much at all) and is most assuredly digging into savings.
Remember how much Kate loves to bitch about being sooooo tired? Once she has to let go of ALL of the help (if she hasn't already, she'll have to soon), THEN she'll know what tired is. But even then, if she's not working, she still won't be as tired as any other divorced mom of many kids, who come home after a long day of work to clean and cook, oversee homework and bedtimes and then collapse in their own bed to do it all over again at 6 am.
2012 is the year reality kicks her ass and she is forced to adjust to the idea of having to find another source of income.
I don't think CC pays too much either. It just can't. Kate writes a couple paragraphs a week and generally poaches a pap photo.
I'd bet she got paid with expenses to come out to Chicago and wherever else she went to promote CC and her new position.
After that, I think her compensation is directly related to how many "click throughs" her blog gets.
Matt bullied her into talking about it, so she did and when she finally broke down and cried, he backed off and said come back sometime and we'll talk about "Chicago". What a jerk. What's HIS problem? He was lecturing her! Good thing she kept interrupting him so she could talk. Those interviewers never let anyone finish a sentence.
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I like Christie, and really felt for her in this whole divorce thing. I saw her in Chicago on Broadway, and she did a commendable job, not fantastic, but decent. Of course, I'm a Billy Joel fan in the biggest way, and still have hopes of them getting back together again against all odds of that happening! I watched part of the interview clip and she was so gracious and at the end says that she wanted to talk about Chicago. He blindsided her in this interview. Shame on him.
She looks better at 57 than Kate does at 37!
Watch from 5:15 on, where she talks about NPD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RbU7SqssQc
2012 is the year reality kicks her ass and she is forced to adjust to the idea of having to find another source of income.
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Paula, I saw it online and Matt was brutal. Did they edit out the end when he said he would ask her about Chicago next time and she squeaked out, "That's what I thought I was here to talk about today."? She was not prepared for that questioning, clearly. Nor was it appropriate. She told him repeatedly she had legally requested privacy and confidentiality and he kept asking her, even though SHE had never been on TV discussing it before, but the ex had!
Kate and Jon were struggling and not making it with two children, his IT job and her nursing job, BEFORE they had six more kids.
They were irresponsible, terrible money managers THEN.
Nothing has changed for Kate since. She is still a terrible money manager. Greed is the most expensive thing of all, especially if it's combined with willful ignorance. Karma, meet Kate.
I think the older the kids get,the more chores on the 'acreage' they will get as Kate's expense account dwindles. Gender specific of course- boys to mow, rake, shovel, garbage, Shoka, chickens; girls clean house, make beds and tidy up, do laundry, cook, look after Kate.
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@KitNewman @silverlak123 I can absolutely say EVERY figure is way way way high. Only published 3 books too... All crap, but wish was true ;(
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Here is the thing...if Kate didn't lie about absolutely everything, then maybe people would believe her when she says she didn't make as much as reported. BUT, what Kate never, never acknowledges is how much she and her family got for free, whether it be food, drinks, products, trips, hotel stays, car services, clothes, toys, electronics, home renovations, school tuition. Every other job out there factors in the "perks" when making a salary package. NOT Kate. She and her kids DESERVED everything that was given to them.
WOW, those who sign up for the cruise will be permitted to "sit" with her and have a cup of tea. I assume that will only be after they have curtsied as a mark of reverance for the 'star'.
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And let's say she's being truthful about the $5 million in cash assets being "way way way high."
Let's say it's more like $2.5 million that she has in readily-liquidated cash.
I'll again quote a local who once figured her current total yearly expenses (the way she lives now, including private school tuition, everything) at about $350,000. That sounds right.
If Jon is paying $1000 a month (which also sounds right, given he is not rolling in money), that's $12K a year in child support.
Still puts her expenses at around $338,000.
Let's say she's knocked some off that by getting rid of SOME help, so she's down to $320,000 a year in expenses.
That's still a lot. If she has $2.5 million in the bank, it makes about $75-100,000 a year in interest (maybe, I think I'm overestimating that a bit).
So she's still short around $220,000 a year. She has to either earn that amount or dig into her principal to make up that difference. She did refinance the house and took a longer note (30 years) and took $100,000 out of it, so I think that's what she's using to see her through 2012 (or at least halfway through 2012).
The more she digs into the principal, the more she reduces the interest income. Diminishing returns. She would only be able to keep that up for a few years.
Meanwhile, she's upside down on the house and has a 30 year note.
The cost of maintaining a home that size does not go down as time goes on.
If she were to significantly downsize her life NOW, she could make the $2.5 million last considerably longer, possibly until the kids are grown (depending on how much she downsized!). But of course, her plan is to just WISH for a six figure income and it'll just magically happen! Because it has to! Or some such garbage! (I'd love to see her say that to Suze Orman, who would rake her across the coals.)
And just what if her fans don't like tea? You ever think of that Cindy? Not everybody likes tea.
But fine, go ahead, tell people they can sit there in August to drink hot tea. I'm sure they'll love it.
I assume Kate is too addicted to her coffee to trade it in for tea anyway. Why didn't she just ell people they could sit and have a cup of coffee? Doesn't sound any less ridiculous but for Kate it sounds about right.
Anonymous said..."The bar scene isn't for me either, but I sure as hell wouldn't tell someone else not to spend their birthday in a bar because it doesn't appeal to ME. As long as the person whose birthday it is enjoys their celebration, that's all that matters."
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Who told Kate how to celebrate her birthday? I didn't see anything even remotely close to that. Talk about reading comprehension problems (or your basic s**t-stirring)...
Marie said, "I assume Kate is too addicted to her coffee to trade it in for tea anyway."
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Marie, Kate has made mention of drinking tea before bed. Perhaps this will be a prelude to the pajama party with the sheeple.
Once a Viewer 127, I don't think having kids do chores around the old homestead is necessarily a bad thing, but, let's face it, there's no way six 7 or 8 year olds and two 11 year olds can manage the upkeep on the McMansion.
Kate's homegrown labor force is NOT going to save the house, even if she worked on the grounds, too.
Reality is about to bite Kate, big time.
Once a Viewer, I agree. I think the boys already single-handedly take care of the chickens.
And you know, NORMALLY, I'd say bully for them. A little hard work never killed a kid. I'm a big believer in chores and everyone pitching in and working hard. Our daughter has done her own laundry since she was nine, and has had regular chores her whole life (not for an allowance, but because we all have to pitch in and help because we all live in the house and that's part of being a family).
She has had a part-time job for nearly a year. It's minimum wage, normal teenager job. Sweeping and mopping up, cleaning the toilet, cleaning food areas, taking out drippy stinky trash, dealing with customers. She's kept her grades up and is earning a small income to spend or save as she pleases and I think that's really good for a kid. She appreciates the fact that she's going to college so much more, I think, than if she had never worked. And she's super careful with money, too.
But in the case of the Gosselin kids, they EARNED that frigging "mine all mine" mansion. Their lives and identities as private people were sold, dammit. And make no mistake that they worked long freaking hard hours as LITTLE kids, pretending to celebrate holidays on the wrong day, wearing thick sweaters for "fall" photos in the heat of the summer, being traipsed all over God's green earth and bullied by their mom every step of the way. Cameras and lights in their faces since before they could remember! They had frigging behavior problems in school and some struggles back when they were pulled out of school so often for filming. And no protections.
So while I'd normally say no harm done to kids working hard, it seems a bit unfair that they are STILL working so hard for a fortune they will never personally see. That their college education is NOT funded. That they won't even be able to get cars unless THEY pay for them.
No, they have been Mommy's Little Gravy Train for a long time and now that she can't make money selling their most private and sometimes most painful moments on TV, she's just going to make sure she gets the most out of them as she can, anyway: I doubt how she handles chores and work is even remotely fair or appropriate for their age.
They'll grow up resentful and angry. One will forever excuse and defend her, one will stay around to torture her, and the rest will run as fast and as far as their legs can carry them.
I don't think CC pays too much either. It just can't. Kate writes a couple paragraphs a week and generally poaches a pap photo.
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It has been said many times that Kate is stealing pap photos.
CC has to vet every image used on its site, and CC is responsible for any permissions issues with the images, not Kate.
If the photo is used without permission, whoever retains rights to the image would contact CC, they would NOT contact Kate. Kate is only an employee. And yes Kate could say use this photo, I want this photo, here, etc. But it is STILL the responsibility of CC to ensure the photo is credited properly and used legally.
If the photos have been used without permission, it is the fault of CC.
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Cara was crying and begging Kate not to go to NY on her bday last year. An important fact to know when saying Kate can do what she wants. Even if her child is that upset?
I would guess that much of her money is invested and her cash is being liquidated with expenses. I don't believe she is anywhere near short of cash, but just wants to play the sympathy card for a 6-figure job and her tweeties. Remember, she was tight fisted with money (Jon had a $5 a week lunch allowance) so she can squeeze a penney if she needs to (from others, not herself). If a high paying job does not appear in the next few years, she will most definitely have to downsize. The mortgage, school tuition, and general expenses are chipping away at her stash.
Did they edit out the end when he said he would ask her about Chicago next time and she squeaked out, "That's what I thought I was here to talk about today."?
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PJ -- it's still on the link I posted above in 123. If she comes back (and if I were Christie I wouldn't set foot there again, and certainly not be interviewed by him) I'd make darn sure that the discussion wasn't about the divorce and if that's where it was headed, I'd walk out of the interview or refuse to discuss anything about it.
Heather said:
It has been said many times that Kate is stealing pap photos.
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I don't visit Kate's site, or CC, but it has also been said that Steve was Kate's pap towards the end of her "glory days". So, the photos could be hers/Steves to use how they want.
Downeaster Alexa - thanks. I didn't see it on your link but saw it somewhere online and clicked on it. It's probably the same version. Someone upthread mentioned that she HAS cried 'poor me' with previous divorces, and she has, but in this case, she repeatedly stressed she had not said anything, asked that legally he be prevented from discussing it, divorce records are open, etc., and Matt STILL wouldn't let it go. It was weird!
It has been said many times that Kate is stealing pap photos.
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I don't visit Kate's site, or CC, but it has also been said that Steve was Kate's pap towards the end of her "glory days". So, the photos could be hers/Steves to use how they want.
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That's true. I was just pointing out that CC is responsible for copyright permissions/licensing of any/all images, not Kate, as it has been stated Kate is essentially stealing photos to use.
And if Steve took the photo, CC would need to get permission from him, just like any other photog or source. If Kate took the photo, she would have to grant permission as well, usually via a release form, to allow use of the image for XX amount of time in XXX context.
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PJ's momma said... 125
Paula, I saw it online and Matt was brutal. Did they edit out the end when he said he would ask her about Chicago next time and she squeaked out, "That's what I thought I was here to talk about today."? She was not prepared for that questioning, clearly. Nor was it appropriate. She told him repeatedly she had legally requested privacy and confidentiality and he kept asking her, even though SHE had never been on TV discussing it before, but the ex had!
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PJ, agree w/ all you said otherwise, but what Christie actually said was, "That's what I wanted to talk about today."
I normally like Matt Lauer, but he was showing extreme prejudice toward Christie today and was being a bully in doing so.
I viewed the Christie Brinkley/Matt Lauer interview & didn't take it the way some of you did. Christie just kept repeating the same things over & over again, and never would let Matt complete a question...she talked over him. Then at the end when she said she was there to discuss Chicago, I laughed because she consumed her entire segment with trash talking her ex-husband instead. That was her choice...she wanted to get her "live in peace" mantra out there for the country to hear...along with saying how their Son dislikes his own Dad. She sounded like Kate Gosselin...same theme..same bashing of the ex-husband.
Purple Skies, I agree w/ you to some extent...in fact, I said the same thing in a much earlier post, but I still think Matt was harsh with her.
Aggiemom, Matt is still with his wife since 2008...Annette Roque...she is the mother of his three (3) children. He was married once before but it was a long time ago, and I don't believe any children were born to that marriage.
Matt and Annette came close to divorcing due to his fooling around (again, captured by none other than the National Enquirer) BEFORE they were married but when they were engaged.
Downeaster Alexa said... 139
PJ -- it's still on the link I posted above in 123. If she comes back (and if I were Christie I wouldn't set foot there again, and certainly not be interviewed by him) I'd make darn sure that the discussion wasn't about the divorce and if that's where it was headed, I'd walk out of the interview or refuse to discuss anything about it.
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I agree. The segment was strange...It's old hat for Christie to be interviewed because she's been in the business for 30+ years so I'm surprised she didn't stop Matt in his asshole tracks and say something like I'm not here to discuss this, I'm here to talk about my play. It's not healthy for my kids to be talking about our divorce here.
He caught her off guard and obviously he knew she'd be emotional about the whole thing so he pecked away until he was satisfied. Maybe he's gunning for some hard-nose journalist job someplace, I don't know, but he was out of line this morning with Christie. And HE was the one who kept saying it's not good for the kids, but HE was the one who wouldn't drop the subject.
Maybe she will come back but with her lawyer in tow. I guess that's what people need these days when they go on talk shows.
I googled Matt this am and the article I read stated his second wife divorced him. Due to that, I assumed he was a bitter divorced dad. Now since I have been corrected, Matt Lauer is just an asshole.
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Hmmm, the 5 mil is "way way way high" huh? I'm not surprised. Remember when everyone (including TV Guide) was reporting that J&K were making $75,000 per episode, and then Jon set the record straight and said they were actually only making $22,500 per episode? Less than a third of the reported amount. Could be the same way with K+8. Why would TLC pay her more than 10 times what they paid for Jon and Kate (which had higher ratings)? And not all of the K+8 were hour-long specials, either. I think about 8 of them were only a half hour. That would probably pay even less. Whatever she got, she had to pay taxes of about 40% or more, plus her agent's fee--normally about 10%--and the kids' 15%. It could be that she's not as well-set financially as everyone thinks. She's also been well over 6 months without a show, so she could be really feeling the pressure by now.
She needed that paycheck. I bet she's starting to wish she had shown TLC a little more appreciation. Too bad, it's her own fault that she didn't.
Maybe Kate will loan Christie her PurseBoy.
Loan. What am I saying? Rent would be more like it.
aggiemom09121416 said... 147
I googled Matt this am and the article I read stated his second wife divorced him. Due to that, I assumed he was a bitter divorced dad. Now since I have been corrected, Matt Lauer is just an asshole.
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LOL, Aggiemom...I agree w/ you!!!
I JUST NOW saw the pic of Kate the Drama Queen's wounded finger...WHAT A BABY...that is NOTHING! And I mean NOTHING.
My fingers on my right hand just start opening up with cuts out of nowhere and bleeding on a regular basis...I have callouses because of it. I have zero tolerance for and hate prissy women. What a Whiner.
Ladies, Matt's not divorced. He's been married since 1998, up and down, filed a couple times, but they are still married. Don't know what fueled that weird interview, but she should have just shut it down and said, "I'm here to talk about Chicago." I do feel maybe she's somewhat narcissistic because once she started talking, she did not stop, her frustration just all came pouring out. But she had the power to end it and didn't. I've never been in the hot seat like that and probably wouldn't be able to think that fast, but it would be priceless to see someone's reaction when they get shut down like that.
Dallas Lady, 130 -- just when I think that you have said everything as well as it could possibly be said, you one up your "wonderful" self. That was a perfect post. I agree completely. Well done. I have also enjoyed every one of your gardening stories. Thank you.
Looking at K8's picture on this thread and then at the pic on the previous one, it strikes me how much prettier, happier she is at tea with her girls - shorter hair, better color, natural summer tan, no 'work' yet on her face, pre- divorce, pre-no fat diet., dressed appropriately for the occasion. Even her smile for the camera s more natural. Sad to think what she has done to herself, all by herself.
Great post @130 Dallas Lady.....as usual....Your posts are always filled with "common sense"....
dmasy, SHUCKS! Don't turn my head! (As they say in the south.)
But thank you. I try to hide my WONDERFULNESS so that it won't piss off the trolls, but it just comes out!*
*All of that was tongue-in-cheek for anyone reading who thought I was serious.
And YOU are quite sweet, dmasy.
I don't remember who asked me if my daughter still gardens (canadianmom?), but she doesn't really, because she's 17 and busy with school, work, friends, studying for the SAT, all that. BUT when she comes out to talk to me while I'm gardening, it's clear she still knows what's going on and has an appreciation for it (she's been commenting lately on the pretty new leaves on the clematis), so I figure she'll come back around to digging in the dirt when she's older and her life has settled down a bit.
It's therapy to me. There's no way I can be in a bad mood after an afternoon of getting filthy in my yard. Ditto for cooking. I turn on that Discovery ID channel (all they show are real-life mysteries) and start chopping and stirring, maybe pour a glass of wine to sip while I cook, and all is right with the world. :)
Dallas Lady - I agree with the rest, excellent post. May I add that I think she also will remind them they wouldn't have ANYTHING if she hadn't found a job where they could live the way they do. She would turn it into a 'I did it all for you' thing to make them feel obligated to stay and help her.
Kat, thank you to you, too!
And AuntieAnn, TOTALLY agree. SHE will always make herself out to be the great heroine, the great martyr, the reason they even have ANYTHING.
Of course. Ug.
Dallas Lady.... one thing about Suze Ormon is that she advocated for OctoMom to pimp the kids out on reality tv. This was on Oprah when the two of them double bitch-slapped her back and forth.
I almost felt sorry for her...
Suze would team up with Nancy Grace (a total Jon hater) to get the kids back on tv so poor Kate could support the kids all by herself as a "single" mom.
My feeling is that Kate would rather be right than happy. What makes me happy is living within my means. I'd stay up at night just like Kate claims to if I where upside down in my mortgage, had a home that made my mind spin as far as upkeep and had 8 kids in private school.
Even if Kate grossed 5 million, she sure didn't net it and she sure didn't spend wisely.
JudyK said... 151
I JUST NOW saw the pic of Kate the Drama Queen's wounded finger...WHAT A BABY...that is NOTHING! And I mean NOTHING.
My fingers on my right hand just start opening up with cuts out of nowhere and bleeding on a regular basis...I have callouses because of it. I have zero tolerance for and hate prissy women. What a Whiner.
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Talk about being a drama queen. Your reaction to the picture is far more dramatic than Kate's tweet. She didn't say she had a life threatening injury for goodness sake. I'm sure there are people suffering from far more than callouses on their right hand who would accuse you of being a whiner. It's all relative.
5 mil is "way, way high"? In Kate-speak, that could mean that she only got 4.9 mil.
Dear Anonymous 160...
Your reaction towards JudyK's 151 reaction was way way Waaayyyy over the top.
Geez, get a grip woman. (or man - can't tell at this point).
*snark*
Good one, Berks Neighbor, and right on target. Baaaaaa.
Anonymous @ 160 - Rule #1. Do not use Anonymous. Pick a name.
So why don't you just come clean and tell us why you're so bitter KATE? Let it all out. We're here for you.
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It's unnecessary to be nasty. If you don't agree with a poster, just let it go.
Kate is the one that put her little boo-boo out there, oh poor Kate. She expects to get sympathy for that little scratch that hardly warrants a band-aid? good grief.
I'd tell you about the time I cut off a large chunk of my finger with a kitchen knife (one that required numerous stitches, a 2 week prescription of hydrocodone and bandaging it for 4 months (dr wanted it bandaged for 6 months, but 4 was all I could tolerate), but gee, I don't have a picture to share, so I guess my little boo-boo isn't as bad as Kate's.
There isn't any reason to be so nasty. If you don't like what people write here, go somewhere else. No one makes you read here.
Have a nice day!
Wasn't that tea picture taken on the Bald Island vacation?...the one where she and Steve really enjoyed themselves?
This is OT and I'm not trying to stir anything up, but my best friend of 40 some odd years, just finished her first half marathon. She is a runner, piloxer and tennis player. She has been training for months with a running club and trainer. After the race, she called me to tell me she had finished. I asked her if she put on lipstick before she crossed the finish line. She said, "Are you kidding me??? Who the hell does that?" Bwahahahaha!
Also thank you Pity Party for bringing up Tori and Dean. Tori is such an awesome down to earth mom. Love them!
Anonymous 160: Talk about being a drama queen. Your reaction to the picture is far more dramatic than Kate's tweet.
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At the risk of being accused by a pot-stirrer of being a drama queen, I'd like to ask the following questions:
Why did Kate post a photo of a scratched finger? Her motive? Is it for attention, or to show that she's so hard at work cleaning her kitchen? For sympathy?
Clue me in here -- WHY would someone post this? I can't imagine scraping my finger (or any body part) and immediately thinking..."this would make a great photo for my tweeties -- quick, let me grab my phone."
Is this the most exciting part of her day?
Yesterday Dallas was under attack; today it's Tucker and JudyK. Instead of going after POSTERS, perhaps "Anonymous" would like to contribute to the discussion. It's easy to attack and doesn't take many brain cells to do so. Contributing to an intelligent discussion, however, may not be possible for a few posters who simply like to stir. That seems to be all they are capable of doing.
Anonymous #160.
What did YOU think when you saw the picture of Kate's boo-boo? Did it warrant a tweet & follow-up photo so all could see? Why do you suppose Kate went to the trouble of show & tell for such a minor scrape?
My thoughts, Kate seems to be a very needy person. What's your opinion?
Trolling For Trolls said... 168
jinx, lol. Sorry, I posted a similar thought before I saw your post. I really would like to know what anonymous thought of Kate's tweet & pic.
DFWmom said... 167
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No sh*t stirring! and good for your friend. What an accomplishment. Long distance running ain't pretty and nobody but a world-class athlete would look almost as fresh as a daisy crossing the finish line.
Not to put too fine of a point on it, but the course is strewn with everything from empty water containers to detritus (bodily and otherwise). If you cross the finish line without one or more body parts rubbed skinless and bleeding (yup, think nipples), you're in good shape.
Lipstick... never heard of anyone worried about that at the end. Getting there in good time and in one piece, yes.
I think there is a reason why Kate wanted to do her "first marathon" under cover of darkness.
Kate looks really pretty in that photo above. Too bad she had to go ruin it.
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Thanks. Today's interesting focal point seems to be Christie Brinkley vs. Matt Lauer and i think we can manage to weigh the evidence, gauge our own personal reactions, and post here respectfully.
I'm thinking Brinkley got ambushed, but don't follow her or her life in any other way other than to say that she remains stunning.
Kate's tweet from this morning, that is still at the top of this page as of this moment:
"...Only published 3 books too... All crap, but wish was true"
I'm still chuckling every time I read this. I know it wasn't her intent for the tweet to read this way, but it is still pretty freakin' funny when it appears that she's calling her books crap and not true.
Sherri O said... 174
Kate's tweet from this morning, that is still at the top of this page as of this moment:
"...Only published 3 books too... All crap, but wish was true"
I'm still chuckling every time I read this. I know it wasn't her intent for the tweet to read this way, but it is still pretty freakin' funny when it appears that she's calling her books crap and not true.
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But, but, but...Kate's a writer & author. Surely she knows how to string words together to convey her true meaning. (ok, my snark for the day;)
mscatie said... 169
Anonymous #160.
What did YOU think when you saw the picture of Kate's boo-boo? Did it warrant a tweet & follow-up photo so all could see? Why do you suppose Kate went to the trouble of show & tell for such a minor scrape?
My thoughts, Kate seems to be a very needy person. What's your opinion?
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She may well be a very needy person. I have no idea why she posted such a pic, but then again I have no idea why my *friends* post half the stuff that they do on Facebook and the point of Twitter completely escapes me. The pic doesn't seem out of line with the types of Tweets made by millions each day. JudyK's reaction was way over the top, which was ironic given that she was complaining about someone else being a drama queen.
She posted a teeny tiny ABRASION on her finger on twitter for attention. Obviously. Otherwise, why else would someone go to the trouble of taking a picture of such a thing and putting it on the internet?
I'd criticize anyone who was so obviously needy and posted some picture of a tiny scratch or a teeny splinter they got. Oh boo hoo, who cares, Kate?
As if she's just scrubbing her fingers down to the bone keeping the house clean. Sure.
To all you anonymouses who seem to love Kate: why you bother to even post here is beyond me. And it says a lot that you refuse to even pick a fake name to defend her under. You've got to defend her by attacking others (probably because she's indefensible) and only when anonymous? Sad.
The more she descends into obscurity, the more pathetic and humorous your attempts become.
I'm happy to say I've never read a single word of her three "crap" books.
I'm happy to say I've never read a single word of her three "crap" books.
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Me,too.
Maybe they'd like to see a pic of the finger I'M holding up right now.
AuntieAnn
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Maybe they'd like to see a pic of the finger I'M holding up right now.
March 27, 2012 1:08 PM
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Second best laugh of the day! lol. you guys are so hilarious!
AuntieAnn said... 180
Maybe they'd like to see a pic of the finger I'M holding up right now.
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hahahaha! Funny you should say that! One of my thoughts when I saw Kate's boo boo was: Well, it would have been better if it was her middle finger.
Discuss opinions not posters please. You can disagree but don't insult.
Only published 3 books
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Notice she doesn't say WRITTEN or AUTHORED.
Published.
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Math and finance are not my strong points. I'm going to throw this theory out for discussion anyway. Is it possible that both the reports of $250,000 per episode and KK's claim that she didn't make anywhere near that amount are accurate? If that $250,000 includes the value of all the perks that KK received -- the trips, the clothing, the food, the staff, etc. -- then her net worth could be a lot less than we think it is. If this is the situation, then, again, KK isn't technically lying, she's skirting the truth, as per usual.
aggiemom09121416 said... 147
I googled Matt this am and the article I read stated his second wife divorced him. Due to that, I assumed he was a bitter divorced dad. Now since I have been corrected, Matt Lauer is just an asshole.
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I'm just jumping on .... don't even know what went on.
But I do agree: Matt Lauer is an asshole. I boycott The Today show because of him.
Heh. It would be funny if a whole lot of people Kate didn't have blocked tweeted her a picture of a particular finger.
AuntieAnn said... 180
Maybe they'd like to see a pic of the finger I'M holding up right now.
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Only if you are wearing blue sparkle nail polish with a painted Easter egg design! Bring it on!
Heather said... 184
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Heather, good point about her choice of words in the tweet - "published" rather than "written" or "authored".
That's Kate, being her clever self when she manipulates the language so she can't be accused of lying.
If that $250,000 includes the value of all the perks that KK received -- the trips, the clothing, the food, the staff, etc. -- then her net worth could be a lot less than we think it is
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Reader, I thought about that, too. It makes sense. She didn't get that much in cash, but given how expensive those trips were, and everything else that went with them, plus the actual cash received, it could have added up to that amount. If some of that was in the form of perks, wouldn't she have to pay taxes on all of it?
readerlady @ #185 -
I was thinking the same thing - what if her 1099s or w-2 forms read "$250,000" per episode, but $25000 of that was for landscaping, $10000 was for food services, $5000 for Khate's hair/clothing/upkeep, etc.
Interesting concept.
Christie Brinkley - I don't think she is totally out of the narcissist conversation, either, but I do think she got ambushed. And once she started talking, it was too emotional for her to stop. I don't think Matt tried hard enough (or at all) to steer the interview out of the emotional place. Almost makes you wonder if he and Mr. Cook are buddies, doesn't it?
Judy K ~ Thanks for your reply.
And...now onto Kate's abrasion. lol She posted that pic to show she cleaned her stove, because this is something new for her. She must have lost her cleaning lady, once paid for by TLC. Poor thing, working to the bone like that.
Seriously???!?!?!!!!
Grifty tweeted a picture of her "mangled" finger??????
Good GAWD......
Maybe she is playing the sympathy card...."look at that poor girl'd finger.....someone give her a talk show STAT!!!!"
I would like to tweet a pic of one of my fingers....just for Grifty.....any thoughts as to which one I should use???
Gotta go attend to a hangnail...maybe I'll tweet a picture of it.
In light of Christie Brinkley's interview this morning, I am looking at this Peter Cook interview in a new light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94nVVEJiW_k
Yes, there are two sides to every story, but I am leaning on Christie's side right now. He sounds like a jerk!
AuntieAnn 180...that was hilarious!!
Well, I'm not proud to say I did read all 3 'published' books and she's right, they were crap, at least the 2nd two. I read Eight little Faces standing in WalMart in about 2 minutes, didn't buy. The other two I was given as gifts b/c people knew I used to watch the show. The first one was interesting, but you could tell it was 'penned' by an educated Christian person. I also found a few discrepancies from what was shown on the program. The Just Want You to Know had some interesting stories about times when Jon was around, but the actual 'letters' were ridiculous.
I really wonder is Kate will be able to publish a 4th-no way a cookbook given recent recipes 9 or maybe she's hoarding the 'good' ones for the book, loll) and not a fitness tips ok- she has given bad advice to twitter runners already.Her last choice is a parenting guide- I think not.
Ah.....its been proven again that great minds think alike...I got to comment #160 before I commented about my finger, lo and behold my fellow Grifty HATERS had the same thought..... LOL..
I had a cut on my finger this morning but then I realized it was just lip gloss. Thank god I didn't post that pic. Embarrassing!
Sorry...I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that she only has 20-30 people for this cruise.......WOW JUST WOW
Ha Kate is the mad-hatter high five Admi-).
Um....You guys DO know I was referring to my pinkie finger, right? It's just so darn cute I wanted everyone to see it.
(I'm reading "How to tell the truth without really lying", a new book just out, by Kate G.)
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