The Gosselin’s marriage dissolves on TV. When the couple weaponize their fame in a messy divorce, they fracture the image of the perfect American family. Watch the full episode here on Vice.
Really the Duggar fallout has far more to do with their cult religion which safe harbors predators. But reality TV was not at all an environment that helped things any.
Kate isn't published in People because the editor "likes" her. It's all part of the business strategy, it doesn't matter who the editor is. The tv show is still streaming on multiple platforms ... need to keep her name recognition going. When the tv/streaming parent company buys ads, the magazines print the stories. This has been standard practice for decades. Decades. This idea that 'Katie Coyne loves Kate so much' was the reason Kate was written about is incredibly ill-informed. It's about the money/business. Not 'editor just loves this celebrity SO MUCH.'
Collin is releasing a tell all book. We said one of them would do so.
Here is the link: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/collin-gosselins-book-to-reveal-new-details-about-childhood/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPNTY3MDY3MzQzMzUyNDI3AAGnH0U7YLNGR_72LzrdDVbRroftpX7JzqLJamSRFZbyoFs2eRY_4jRmQtmA2xQ_aem_7Ql-uC9SBNKP1GPBcm8YGg
Collin's book comes out October 13. The cover is a photo of Kate covering his mouth when he was a kid. I remember it well. The book is definitely on my to read list.
From Dmasy -- Collin has written a book. Available on pre-order. To be released in October. The title is "In the Shadow of Eight. Surviving the Reality of My Childhood." Here is a link to the US article: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/collin-gosselins-book-to-reveal-new-details-about-childhood/ I will be reading the book.
I remember that awful picture, too. After all we'd seen of TFW's lousy treatment of her little boy, no amount of spin could make that aggressive, hateful gesture seem like anything but a literal attempt to silence him.
Hello to all my fellow posters whom I haven't seen in a while. We called this, didn't we? I was hoping for "Eight Little Tell-Alls," but this is a great start. And I hope writing this book has brought some peace to Collin's bruised soul.
I haven’t been on this site in many years (possibly 10 or more years!), but I had to drop in once I saw the media about Colin’s book. Abusers forget that children grow up, but here we are.
Those of us who saw this coming will probably not be surprised by anything Colin has to say. I pre-ordered his book to support him and spite Kate and her rabid fans. I hope it's a best-seller and Kate's abuse becomes public knowledge. I hope she is shunned by all and ashamed to show her face in public. I hope her supporters finally feel the shame and humiliation they deserve for defending a child abuser.
This is LisaNH. Like Malaprop, it's been years since I've posted here too. But when I saw Collin on my YT news feed I immediately had to come over here to say hi to everyone. What we all used to talk about, so many years ago, has come to pass, like the book Collin is releasing in Oct, Kate and "Claw Man".
The best response from her is her lawyer told her she can’t sue Collin for defamation, because she’s a public figure. She still thinks she’s larger than life! Shes about as famous as my left toe. It’s more like her lawyer told her about discovery and she panicked. I’m going to preorder it now
I'm so glad Collin has finally written his book. We knew it would come someday.
Why would TLC care? The kids haven't been filmed in ages. Are they afraid people are going to see how complacent they were during filming? I'm sure THEY knew exactly what was going on before she shipped him away. Jmo, of course.
Collin did a podcast recently if any of you want to look it up on YouTube.
And Kate is trying to defend herself on social media. I think it's just going to get worse for her.
Hi Everyone!! After a few years, I am back. It is great to see Collin finally getting to speak for himself and tell the awful truth about the Former Wife. I wish him all the best with his book.
Hi everyone! It's great to see familiar names again. it's been a long time. Good for Colin. We knew at least one of the kids would tell all. I hope that witch is spending sleepless nights afraid of what's going to be exposed in his book. I have it on order, can't wait to read it. Hi Admin, hope you & your little girl are doing well!
So glad to join others like flimsyflamsy, ncgirl and Mrs Malaprop, Admin and others, back on the verandah!
There are quite a few people on TT going back thru documents and creating timelines again. A new piece of information, I hadnt known, is that TLC had a piece in the agreement that if Kate said the kids agreed to film and they didnt, that Kate could be sued. So when Collin started to go against filming, the caveat in the agreement was if a child became incapacitated due to Mental Disability. Hence, the admission to the Behavioral Institue and the ongoing "fluid" diagnosis. I guess Hannah, altho wanted to go live with Jon, never made waves about filming, while in Kate's custody...so cha-ching, sounds like motive for Kate to create a mental disability for the child who wouldnt film so she could continue and not be sued.
And bwahaha, to the comment about "cant sue" because she is a public figure...yea , nice try Kate.
And the Steve affair and now a couple, is just the cherry on top. She thinks we are all so dumb.
Admin- can we have a new post created so we can have a Reunion on the Veranda chit chatting and waiting for the Tell All we knew would come!! The Lemonade made from Kate's Karma will be so sweet!
Also, I only just saw where Kate was on the Weakest Link, aired in Nov 2025. And she was the 1st voted off..haha. The Housewives ganged up and voted all the non Housewives off, even if good, but I thought it was hilarious that Kate was gone ASAP.
Hi Dmasy, I remember that name! I agree with Meagler, it would be good to start a new thread since this one was started almost 3 years ago now! Shows you how long Kate has been too insignificant to write about.
But there is now a new energy in the air with Collin's book announcement. He has been posting on his social media & engaging with his followers (including myself). The Gosselin thread on Reddit has blown up with old clips and people sharing their memories of how bad she was on the show.
And then there's Kate over on TT trying to act like everything is normal where she has boring videos about her dogs. Yawn.
Its official! Collin is a contestant on that same Special Forces reality show that Kate was on and only.made it 1 episode. I sure hope Collin makes it further!!
This Is Formerly Duped. I also ordered Collin's book and follow him on IG.He's very polite and grateful for support. I am looking forward to reading it!!! I see ncgirl noted that the cover photo is the one I think at the bus stop where Kate had her hand over Collin's mouth. The tups were so little then. I really hope the book does well for Collin's sake and also to bring Kate in her place! Hope everyone is doing well!
From Dmasy -- I have also pre-ordered the book on Amazon. I follow Cheere Denise on Youtube. She comments on current social events and reads books with her inserted commentary. She is delightful and has a sharp wit. ( Her impersonation of Prince Harry makes me laugh every time.) She is planning to read Collin's book when it comes out. She has already discussed some of what little she knows of the Gosslin situation. All of us are better educated than she is, so far. I anticipate that I will be leaving many comments!
I have been watching K8’s Tik Tok on and off the last year. She just loves living without the kids. She loves living with Steve and her dogs even more. Even when she broke her leg last year, she was in rather good spirits cause she had Steve there. Kids who ? They no longer exist. -Ronnie and Maggie
I still can’t beleive she’s with Steve in real life. Like it feels like a parody. She’s like Camilla just waiting for enough time to pass then just pretending it’s normal.
Admin. I agree. I cant believe she's with Steve. Or i should say i can't believe he's with her. He knows what she's like. How can he find her appealing, unless the way she acts is a turn in for him. The whole thing is vile IMHO. If I was looking for personal.protection Claw man is the last person I would hire because being in a relationship with TFW shows poor judgement on his part. Sure Jon was with her too but he was only 20ish when they got together. Claw was an adult when he entered a romantic relationship with her. This is LisaNH, by the way.
Hi it’s T- An old time poster here…Kate’s young dog died. It’s horrible and tragic to lose any pet, never mind two pets suddenly in such a short span of time. So, I don’t grudge her very valid grief. She is stating on her TikTok, how heartbroken she is, and generally going on and on about her grief. Which, again, I completely understand. HOWEVER, she says nothing about her grief of losing one of her children!? I mean, she basically just walked away from Colin and when she mentions him, it’s only in a disparaging way. But she goes on and on on social media about losing her “baby” meaning her dog. And goes on to equate losing her puppy to losing a child with Steve. I am one of those dog moms that does treat my dog like a child and I consider him a family member. When I have lost pets previously, I have been absolutely devastated. So two things can be true at once.. losing your dog is horrible. But losing your son should also require some amount of grief.
K8 and Steve did a video how they may be getting a new puppy in the fall from breeder who would be related to dog they just lost. It will be interesting to see how this new puppy lines up with the release of Collins book.
I also wonder how Steve’s kids feel about his new lady love. It’s hard enough to watch your parents split up but then to see their father end up with a woman they have probably known of most of their lives and is a person known for her bad behavior.
I agree that it’s particularly hard on kids to see a parent’s new relationship be someone you knew, trusted, welcomed into the family for years. This happened to the kids I nannied for in their teen years and to this day it’s so gross and shocking. Like I’d much rather you just go on tinder and meet somebody new nobody knows.
Anonymous at 44 I dont have a link. I followed this family and the legalities of filming in Pennsylvania back in the K&J+8 heyday. There were no protections for kids in reality tv shows then. Kate's brother Kevin and wife Jody came forward with concerns that helped to change the rules and to bring a guardian into the set to act as advocate for the kids, but that was after the divorce. At that time snipets of the contract showed up. Some of it may have been in the book written about Kate ( shoot, Forget the book now but it was available on Amazon written by Robert ? ) and I think it was there the contract was shown where kids must be present for filming, unless there was a medical reason to not be. Collin starting to decline filming, putting that contract into jeopardy, and it was about that time Collin got pulled from school, along with Hannah and then Collin became institionalized. The timing sure pointed to Kate needing Collin to either play nice witht the camera or end up in an institution.
Well gang, today is the day, Collin's book release! We have waited how many years for this? We knew one of them would spill the beans but we sure didn't realize how bad that poor child actually had it. Of course, according to Katie's TT, she's going to be 'gone this week'. No one is manning her comment section as of today either. She's probably off in the Caribbean somewhere hoping by the time she returns it'll be old news. Dream on Katie, your day of reckoning has finally come.
I’m listening to the podcast On Purpose with Jay Sherry. He’s interviewing Colin and it’s absolutely heartbreaking. It was as bad and even worse than everyone thought on this blog. She is disgusting and just living her best life with ol’ Stevie and her dogs. Disgusting! Listen to it but I warn you, it’s a hard podcast.
From Dmasy ... I hope Admin will open a new thread. HELLO to "old" friends. There are good Youtube sites where Collin's book is being discussed. Cheere Denise is my favorite. She will be reading his book and commenting. The blog archives are full of such rich info for those who care and don't know the background. I really believe it is time for Kate to be held accountable for all her mistreatment and lies.
Hello friends! I've been struggling for months to get back on to the blog. Right now my screen says "not secure," but I'll roll the dice and post anyway. I suddenly have tears in my eyes as I type this...thinking of all the abuse, both mental and physical, that sweet Collin endured. Not to mention the straight-up neglect. I don't have the heart or the stomach to read the book because I fear what we all saw on screen was only a fraction of his mother's horrific behavior.
I found my way back to this blog after reading Collin’s book. I was a day-one lurker who used to read this site and TWOP religiously. I even bought and read Robert Hoffman’s book.
It’s surreal to see the world finally catching up to what so many of you recognized years ago. Kate was able to steamroll people for far too long, and the list of people who were hurt along the way is a lengthy one.
I just wanted to take a moment to say God bless all of you who saw through it early on and stood your ground, even when so many others refused to listen. Time has a way of bringing things to light, and you deserve to know that your voices were never forgotten. 🤍
It’s everything we’ve been saying for YEARS! He even talks about her “journal” (Glad he found Robert Hoffman’s book). She will have a brutal demise - just waiting for all the Gen Z tik tokers to start posting clips from the show to corroborate what Collin is saying. This will be glorious!
From Dmasy -- Last time I watched Special Forces, Kate Gosselin was an early out participant. Tonight, I am watching to see the grown up Collin. I am just about half way through his book. On Monday, I will begin listening to the reading of the book on Youtube by Cheere Denise with her added commentary. What we have known all along ... finally coming to light.
I’ve found it very hard to hear Collin’s story and Kate’s reaction. It’s one thing to hear a shocking story of abuse after the fact but so many of us knew it was going on at the time and tried to do something without success. It’s very hard to watch. I’m very proud of him and he should do what he needs to do and tell what he needs to tell.
So great to see so many familiar names And especially yours, Admin. TFW's gaslighting cannot work when there is film evidence of so much of her bad behavior. The old reality show complaint is someone getting a "bad edit." And the rational reply is that you can't edit something IN that never happened. I've repeatedly referenced exuberant little Collin whacking his head when he tried to quickly get off a plane and TFW's response was, "Sometimes God builds in punishments." What a twisted thought...that a little child DESERVED to get hurt? That he had that pain COMING to him? He was her scapegoat from jump and we saw that with our own eyes.
Hi everyone - Thanks to Admin for still keeping this site available. I’m glad Collin is trying to move on with his life. I’ve read some comments on other sites criticizing him for “airing his dirty laundry” so publicly and pursuing fame just like his mom did by doing a reality tv show, publishing a memoir, etc. First off, I’m not sure what people expect or why they’re surprised. His whole life has been lived in the public eye. He has a right to share his narrative, to not let his mother or TLC’s version of what his life was like or who they say he is to be the final say or define him moving forward. I have to believe this is one way he’s using to heal.
As for Kate, actions speak louder than words. There are thousands of hours of her behavior towards her family and friends documented via her reality show and in the press. I can’t count the number of times she’s been caught lying. Deny Collin’s story all you want. What we, the public, saw aligns with his version of events far more than yours.
For those that have read the book - He mentions "Karen" as being Kate's makeup artist when they went to Mexico. I figured it was Deanna Bell, looked it up and confirmed it was. So was in charge of the kids when they were in a van and watched while Maddy (older sister with sharp nails) scratched his face so it bled and stayed quiet when Collin told Kate and Maddy denied it. What. A. Bitch. I'm trying to figure out who "Jill" is. She was Kate's friend and assistant that went on the trip also. It's not Jamie I don't think. Google said she wasn't on that trip.
I am dying to know who the babysitter/homeschool teacher was, Mrs. Johnson. I don't think it's Michelle Brownlow because he does mention an Art teacher that would come occasionally and that was probably her. But this woman (Mrs. Johnson) was a Kate 2.0 Bitch. I follow Michelle on IG and she seems very into her family and helping children. She was an art teacher for kids on the spectrum until this year when the school closed. I can't imagine she knew all this was going on. I think she was a fan that Kate did let in a little but I hoping she wasn't privy to what Collin was going thru.
It's no wonder Kate kept her circle so small because she had lots of skeletons she needed to keep in the closet.
Does anyone remember who the helper was that went to Mexico with them?
Netflix apparantly is doing a Tell All documentary with Jon, Collin and Hannah. I am hoping Hannahs input is current and not clips from previous interviews. There is speculation that Hannah is not speaking with Collin and Jon as she is no longer following them on Social Media after she made a comment about NOT saying anything about Kate and Steves relationship on set when Collin alluded Hannah had.
Jill Duggar left a nice comment on Colin's social media. She said she heard things from film crews, but she didn't know it was that bad. Seems like some of the crew transferred to the Duggar show because it was so bad at the Gosselins. I remember reading that somewhere.
Another plot twist. Hannah posted on her TT story that she hasn't lived with her dad for over a year nor spoke with Collin in a year. She is taking a step back from the current situation and will not be sharing any further details about Collins behavior growing up or her experiences with him growing up.
So not sure if she has been taken aback under Kate's spell, or she just wants to remain neutral. Hannah said she has had a relationship with her mom and siblings for a few years now.
ncgirl (#66), remember how TFW referred to those workers who practically lived in their home as "crew daddies?" I'm sure they were kind to the kids and maybe even formed some sort of connection, but to raise that to the level of "they're like family" seemed like she was trying to justify their presence. Meanwhile, they had a living, breathing daddy whom she kicked to the curb.
Typical of TFW to talk out of both sides of her mouth. On one hand, the kids weren't really working -- just playing and running in and out of camera range. And yet they had production lights installed in the house and the kids spent enough time with the production crew that they were thought of as family. Pick a story, heifer.
be interesting to see if any school records right before Collin was pulled from school corroborate all the "diagnoses.' Just another point of consistency. surely the school would've documented all the diagnoses and he would have been IEP/504 right? Probably a terrible student, falling behind etc.? I mean ADHD, OCD, bipolar and autism plus others? I think Collin was the most intelligent of the 6 and that's why he is the only one who rebelled to filming, He understood more of what was happening than the others and was too miserable to pretend. 9 times out of 10 the rebels are the smart ones.
It popped up on my feed but Collin’s already posted hospital hold records that include statements from Kate she needs to dump him on them as the kids have prom that night. Not, is my son okay, what can I do how can I help. Just see ya we have prom, like the hospital is a baby sitting service.
Yes, FlimsyFlamsy, I remember that. I've been here almost from the beginning. I knew something was wrong with Kate. We were right. Not just about the abuse but Kate and Steve. I just finished the book. It's really good, not just for TV watchers, but for children who felt thrown away.
I remember Maddy mentioning on her Tiktok that she didn’t want Collin to release the book because she hadn’t given him permission to include her in it. Around that time, Hannah was also active on Maddy’s TikTok. I wonder if Hannah’s comments might have something to do with the book’s release. Mary
A nanny come forward in a PEOPLE article, said she reported the abuse to CPS and quit. Validating the physical abuse of Collin.
I think we're going to see a massive, strategic media campaign, slowly over the weeks leading up to the NETFLIX documentary. Jon has had years of learning how to use the media. This stuff is gonna get real pretty fast. Collin has also said it's likely legal action will be taken and Jon has said criminal charges not civil cases.
A former nanny has spoken out about witnessing Colin's abuse to People, Kate's former friendly magazine. I wonder where Katie Coyne is. The former nanny also talked about how strict Kate was.
Oh kate is doubling down! Now shes claiming collin killed animals? Well thats new! Weird that he has a dog who seems totally comfortable with him. So he only attacked people and animals before his book? Suddenly that urge disappeared! It’s a miracle! I hope he sues her and I hope and pray someone steps in and investigates her abusive behavior.
Also, steves been around a long time, he witnessed her abuse, he was ok with that? I bet his ex wife has things to say! Same with tlc, they saw it all, they should be sued as well.
OMG- Kate is CRASHING!! The allegations she is making on her last TT about Collin is mind numbing. Attacking a sibling with a weapon ? Killing an Animal? Physical/Sexual innuendo to a female staff? Pretty serious allegations she has going. I sure hope Jon follows through with his treatment of a lawsuit if Kate continued.
It has probably been asked, but since Kate has posted such vile statements about her own son. If Collin was so supposedly dangerous, why did she not show up at his custody hearing to (not that I would condone it) to contest that he needed further treatment in a psychiatric facility? But she was willing to allow such said mentally ill individual to...be loosely handed over to his father like that? Would she not have, oh, I don't know, bothered to show up with said medical reports? Bring in his doctor? Anything?
I just find this so weird and hurtful. She's has never denied she's harmed her own son. Yet she blathers like an idiot online how dangerous he is.
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Kate Gosselin breaks down in tears over ""Strain" of Rescue Dogs - details in the Daily Mail online.
https://people.com/inside-kate-gosselin-life-now-11984460
People article on Kate. Wonder if Kate fan Katie Coyne is still there. Nothing much new. She's still whining on social media.
Kate isn't published in People because the editor "likes" her. It's all part of the business strategy, it doesn't matter who the editor is. The tv show is still streaming on multiple platforms ... need to keep her name recognition going. When the tv/streaming parent company buys ads, the magazines print the stories. This has been standard practice for decades. Decades. This idea that 'Katie Coyne loves Kate so much' was the reason Kate was written about is incredibly ill-informed. It's about the money/business. Not 'editor just loves this celebrity SO MUCH.'
It’s all happening!! The day we knew would someday come! Good for Collin!
Collin is releasing a tell all book. We said one of them would do so.
Here is the link:
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/collin-gosselins-book-to-reveal-new-details-about-childhood/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPNTY3MDY3MzQzMzUyNDI3AAGnH0U7YLNGR_72LzrdDVbRroftpX7JzqLJamSRFZbyoFs2eRY_4jRmQtmA2xQ_aem_7Ql-uC9SBNKP1GPBcm8YGg
Meagler
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/collin-gosselin/in-the-shadow-of-eight/9781538784723/
Collin's book comes out October 13. The cover is a photo of Kate covering his mouth when he was a kid. I remember it well. The book is definitely on my to read list.
Pre-order Collin's book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/collin-gosselin/in-the-shadow-of-eight/9781538784723/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAb21jcASgJEFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAadazAtrJ5eNcfgMnOa4-F4t7wXKoij_kU5nXFE3tbYUIJRBVi5CojgPt-tG7g_aem_3yJkEuVPgoEYSYtINNx1rA
Yes!! I will be buying a copy!
The above was me!
From Dmasy -- Collin has written a book. Available on pre-order. To be released in October. The title is "In the Shadow of Eight. Surviving the Reality of My Childhood." Here is a link to the US article: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/collin-gosselins-book-to-reveal-new-details-about-childhood/ I will be reading the book.
I remember that awful picture, too. After all we'd seen
of TFW's lousy treatment of her little boy, no amount
of spin could make that aggressive, hateful gesture seem
like anything but a literal attempt to silence him.
Hello to all my fellow posters whom I haven't seen in
a while. We called this, didn't we? I was hoping for
"Eight Little Tell-Alls," but this is a great start. And
I hope writing this book has brought some peace to
Collin's bruised soul.
I haven’t been on this site in many years (possibly 10 or more years!), but I had to drop in once I saw the media about Colin’s book. Abusers forget that children grow up, but here we are.
Those of us who saw this coming will probably not be surprised by anything Colin has to say. I pre-ordered his book to support him and spite Kate and her rabid fans. I hope it's a best-seller and Kate's abuse becomes public knowledge. I hope she is shunned by all and ashamed to show her face in public. I hope her supporters finally feel the shame and humiliation they deserve for defending a child abuser.
Mrs. Malaprop (#14), how nice to see you! I hope
some more folks will stop by the verandah to
say hello. Crocs and mumus optional but
encouraged!
This is LisaNH. Like Malaprop, it's been years since I've posted here too. But when I saw Collin on my YT news feed I immediately had to come over here to say hi to everyone. What we all used to talk about, so many years ago, has come to pass, like the book Collin is releasing in Oct, Kate and "Claw Man".
Hi Flimsy Flamsy! I wondered if the party on the veranda was still going on. Nice to see you again!
The best response from her is her lawyer told her she can’t sue Collin for defamation, because she’s a public figure. She still thinks she’s larger than life! Shes about as famous as my left toe.
It’s more like her lawyer told her about discovery and she panicked.
I’m going to preorder it now
It's good to see familiar names back. I had forgotten about the crocs and muumuus.
A blind item said TLC didn't like all this Colin talk. Who cares? Besides the wicked witch, they had the Duggars who have 2 sex offenders.
I'm so glad Collin has finally written his book. We knew it would come someday.
Why would TLC care? The kids haven't been filmed in ages. Are they afraid people are going to see how complacent they were during filming? I'm sure THEY knew exactly what was going on before she shipped him away. Jmo, of course.
Collin did a podcast recently if any of you want to look it up on YouTube.
And Kate is trying to defend herself on social media. I think it's just going to get worse for her.
I'm so glad Collin finally wrote his book. Kate is already trying to defend herself in her Instagram and TikTok.
Collin did a podcast that you can find on YouTube.
Good to see some familiar names on here.
Hi Everyone!! After a few years, I am back. It is great to see Collin finally getting to speak for himself and tell the awful truth about the Former Wife. I wish him all the best with his book.
Hi everyone! It's great to see familiar names again. it's been a long time. Good for Colin. We knew at least one of the kids would tell all. I hope that witch is spending sleepless nights afraid of what's going to be exposed in his book.
I have it on order, can't wait to read it.
Hi Admin, hope you & your little girl are doing well!
So glad to join others like flimsyflamsy, ncgirl and Mrs Malaprop, Admin and others, back on the verandah!
There are quite a few people on TT going back thru documents and creating timelines again. A new piece of information, I hadnt known, is that TLC had a piece in the agreement that if Kate said the kids agreed to film and they didnt, that Kate could be sued. So when Collin started to go against filming, the caveat in the agreement was if a child became incapacitated due to Mental Disability. Hence, the admission to the Behavioral Institue and the ongoing "fluid" diagnosis. I guess Hannah, altho wanted to go live with Jon, never made waves about filming, while in Kate's custody...so cha-ching, sounds like motive for Kate to create a mental disability for the child who wouldnt film so she could continue and not be sued.
And bwahaha, to the comment about "cant sue" because she is a public figure...yea , nice try Kate.
And the Steve affair and now a couple, is just the cherry on top. She thinks we are all so dumb.
Admin- can we have a new post created so we can have a Reunion on the Veranda chit chatting and waiting for the Tell All we knew would come!! The Lemonade made from Kate's Karma will be so sweet!
Also, I only just saw where Kate was on the Weakest Link, aired in Nov 2025. And she was the 1st voted off..haha. The Housewives ganged up and voted all the non Housewives off, even if good, but I thought it was hilarious that Kate was gone ASAP.
From Dmasy -- I so agree with Meagler. A new post where we can compare responses to the long-awaited truth of the Gosselin life. Hello, everyone.
Hi Dmasy!! Its been a while! But we knew we would gather back when the truth began to come out!!
@Meagler--there is a clip of Kate walking off The Weakest Link stage yammering about the other contestants being jealous of her. Hilarious.
https://youtu.be/XSGwmLZ7YSc?is=0GTPgBRuIRKBLr_G
Hi Dmasy, I remember that name! I agree with Meagler, it would be good to start a new thread since this one was started almost 3 years ago now! Shows you how long Kate has been too insignificant to write about.
But there is now a new energy in the air with Collin's book announcement. He has been posting on his social media & engaging with his followers (including myself). The Gosselin thread on Reddit has blown up with old clips and people sharing their memories of how bad she was on the show.
And then there's Kate over on TT trying to act like everything is normal where she has boring videos about her dogs. Yawn.
https://people.com/collin-gosselin-joins-special-forces-season-5-cast-12019991
Colin goes on that same show Kate went on, Special Forces. She's not so special now.
Its official! Collin is a contestant on that same Special Forces reality show that Kate was on and only.made it 1 episode. I sure hope Collin makes it further!!
This Is Formerly Duped. I also ordered Collin's book and follow him on IG.He's very polite and grateful for support. I am looking forward to reading it!!! I see ncgirl noted that the cover photo is the one I think at the bus stop where Kate had her hand over Collin's mouth. The tups were so little then. I really hope the book does well for Collin's sake and also to bring Kate in her place! Hope everyone is doing well!
From Dmasy -- I have also pre-ordered the book on Amazon. I follow Cheere Denise on Youtube. She comments on current social events and reads books with her inserted commentary. She is delightful and has a sharp wit. ( Her impersonation of Prince Harry makes me laugh every time.) She is planning to read Collin's book when it comes out. She has already discussed some of what little she knows of the Gosslin situation. All of us are better educated than she is, so far. I anticipate that I will be leaving many comments!
I have been watching K8’s Tik Tok on and off the last year. She just loves living without the kids. She loves living with Steve and her dogs even more. Even when she broke her leg last year, she was in rather good spirits cause she had Steve there. Kids who ? They no longer exist.
-Ronnie and Maggie
I still can’t beleive she’s with Steve in real life. Like it feels like a parody. She’s like Camilla just waiting for enough time to pass then just pretending it’s normal.
Admin. I agree. I cant believe she's with Steve. Or i should say i can't believe he's with her. He knows what she's like. How can he find her appealing, unless the way she acts is a turn in for him. The whole thing is vile IMHO. If I was looking for personal.protection Claw man is the last person I would hire because being in a relationship with TFW shows poor judgement on his part. Sure Jon was with her too but he was only 20ish when they got together. Claw was an adult when he entered a romantic relationship with her. This is LisaNH, by the way.
Hi it’s T- An old time poster here…Kate’s young dog died. It’s horrible and tragic to lose any pet, never mind two pets suddenly in such a short span of time. So, I don’t grudge her very valid grief. She is stating on her TikTok, how heartbroken she is, and generally going on and on about her grief. Which, again, I completely understand. HOWEVER, she says nothing about her grief of losing one of her children!? I mean, she basically just walked away from Colin and when she mentions him, it’s only in a disparaging way. But she goes on and on on social media about losing her “baby” meaning her dog. And goes on to equate losing her puppy to losing a child with Steve. I am one of those dog moms that does treat my dog like a child and I consider him a family member. When I have lost pets previously, I have been absolutely devastated. So two things can be true at once.. losing your dog is horrible. But losing your son should also require some amount of grief.
K8 and Steve did a video how they may be getting a new puppy in the fall from breeder who would be related to dog they just lost. It will be interesting to see how this new puppy lines up with the release of Collins book.
I also wonder how Steve’s kids feel about his new lady love. It’s hard enough to watch your parents split up but then to see their father end up with a woman they have probably known of most of their lives and is a person known for her bad behavior.
Ronnie and Maggie.
I agree that it’s particularly hard on kids to see a parent’s new relationship be someone you knew, trusted, welcomed into the family for years. This happened to the kids I nannied for in their teen years and to this day it’s so gross and shocking. Like I’d much rather you just go on tinder and meet somebody new nobody knows.
https://www.tvinsider.com/1291843/collin-gosselin-blunt-message-returning-reality-tv-special-forces-jon-and-kate-plus-8/?fbclid=IwY2xjawUaYSJwZG9mBWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR6vaClhABuAXgyfOPQFqndRBSGD_tJC8MR2y8IqlDkuqP88Y2q53nA-OjV3mA_aem_tuOddm01HNFFnIUbt_cFBg
Colin has been doing press for that Special Forces show. He keeps emphasizing he's an adult who could choose to do this show.
I won't be watching the show but I hope Collin does well. I am really looking forward to the book! Hello to everyone - it's been a while!
Meagler--I'm not on Tik Tok. Could you provide the link per your post about the contract clause?
Anonymous at 44
I dont have a link. I followed this family and the legalities of filming in Pennsylvania back in the K&J+8 heyday. There were no protections for kids in reality tv shows then. Kate's brother Kevin and wife Jody came forward with concerns that helped to change the rules and to bring a guardian into the set to act as advocate for the kids, but that was after the divorce. At that time snipets of the contract showed up. Some of it may have been in the book written about Kate ( shoot, Forget the book now but it was available on Amazon written by Robert ? ) and I think it was there the contract was shown where kids must be present for filming, unless there was a medical reason to not be. Collin starting to decline filming, putting that contract into jeopardy, and it was about that time Collin got pulled from school, along with Hannah and then Collin became institionalized. The timing sure pointed to Kate needing Collin to either play nice witht the camera or end up in an institution.
Colin's book is out. I'm starting to read.
Hey! Checking in from time to time...good to see the old names.
Well gang, today is the day, Collin's book release! We have waited how many years for this? We knew one of them would spill the beans but we sure didn't realize how bad that poor child actually had it. Of course, according to Katie's TT, she's going to be 'gone this week'. No one is manning her comment section as of today either. She's probably off in the Caribbean somewhere hoping by the time she returns it'll be old news. Dream on Katie, your day of reckoning has finally come.
I’m listening to the podcast On Purpose with Jay Sherry. He’s interviewing Colin and it’s absolutely heartbreaking. It was as bad and even worse than everyone thought on this blog. She is disgusting and just living her best life with ol’ Stevie and her dogs. Disgusting! Listen to it but I warn you, it’s a hard podcast.
It is heartbreaking!
Just finished Collin’s book. Wow. I cannot even imagine what that child went through and i pray somewhere karma comes back on Kate.
From Dmasy ... I hope Admin will open a new thread. HELLO to "old" friends. There are good Youtube sites where Collin's book is being discussed. Cheere Denise is my favorite. She will be reading his book and commenting. The blog archives are full of such rich info for those who care and don't know the background. I really believe it is time for Kate to be held accountable for all her mistreatment and lies.
Hello friends! I've been struggling for months to get back
on to the blog. Right now my screen says "not secure,"
but I'll roll the dice and post anyway. I suddenly have tears
in my eyes as I type this...thinking of all the abuse, both
mental and physical, that sweet Collin endured. Not to
mention the straight-up neglect. I don't have the heart or
the stomach to read the book because I fear what we all
saw on screen was only a fraction of his mother's horrific
behavior.
In reply to "FlimsyFlamsy" I feel the same as you!!
I found my way back to this blog after reading Collin’s book. I was a day-one lurker who used to read this site and TWOP religiously. I even bought and read Robert Hoffman’s book.
It’s surreal to see the world finally catching up to what so many of you recognized years ago. Kate was able to steamroll people for far too long, and the list of people who were hurt along the way is a lengthy one.
I just wanted to take a moment to say God bless all of you who saw through it early on and stood your ground, even when so many others refused to listen. Time has a way of bringing things to light, and you deserve to know that your voices were never forgotten. 🤍
It’s everything we’ve been saying for YEARS! He even talks about her “journal” (Glad he found Robert Hoffman’s book).
She will have a brutal demise - just waiting for all the Gen Z tik tokers to start posting clips from the show to corroborate what Collin is saying. This will be glorious!
From Dmasy -- Last time I watched Special Forces, Kate Gosselin was an early out participant. Tonight, I am watching to see the grown up Collin. I am just about half way through his book. On Monday, I will begin listening to the reading of the book on Youtube by Cheere Denise with her added commentary. What we have known all along ... finally coming to light.
I’ve found it very hard to hear Collin’s story and Kate’s reaction. It’s one thing to hear a shocking story of abuse after the fact but so many of us knew it was going on at the time and tried to do something without success. It’s very hard to watch. I’m very proud of him and he should do what he needs to do and tell what he needs to tell.
Administrator - #58 - AMEN!!!!
Colin is going to be on The View Thursday. Remember when Kate was a guest cohost and she was so high and mighty.
So great to see so many familiar names And especially yours, Admin. TFW's gaslighting cannot work when there is film evidence of so much of her bad behavior. The old reality show complaint is someone getting a "bad edit." And the rational reply is that you can't edit something IN that never happened. I've repeatedly referenced exuberant little Collin whacking his head when he tried to quickly get off a plane and TFW's response was, "Sometimes God builds in punishments." What a twisted thought...that a little child DESERVED to get hurt? That he had that pain COMING to him? He was her scapegoat from jump and we saw that
with our own eyes.
Hi everyone - Thanks to Admin for still keeping this site available. I’m glad Collin is trying to move on with his life. I’ve read some comments on other sites criticizing him for “airing his dirty laundry” so publicly and pursuing fame just like his mom did by doing a reality tv show, publishing a memoir, etc. First off, I’m not sure what people expect or why they’re surprised. His whole life has been lived in the public eye. He has a right to share his narrative, to not let his mother or TLC’s version of what his life was like or who they say he is to be the final say or define him moving forward. I have to believe this is one way he’s using to heal.
As for Kate, actions speak louder than words. There are thousands of hours of her behavior towards her family and friends documented via her reality show and in the press. I can’t count the number of times she’s been caught lying. Deny Collin’s story all you want. What we, the public, saw aligns with his version of events far more than yours.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4718147765128871
This is awful to watch. A lot of people said it's just damage control for Kate's image
For those that have read the book - He mentions "Karen" as being Kate's makeup artist when they went to Mexico. I figured it was Deanna Bell, looked it up and confirmed it was. So was in charge of the kids when they were in a van and watched while Maddy (older sister with sharp nails) scratched his face so it bled and stayed quiet when Collin told Kate and Maddy denied it. What. A. Bitch. I'm trying to figure out who "Jill" is. She was Kate's friend and assistant that went on the trip also. It's not Jamie I don't think. Google said she wasn't on that trip.
I am dying to know who the babysitter/homeschool teacher was, Mrs. Johnson. I don't think it's Michelle Brownlow because he does mention an Art teacher that would come occasionally and that was probably her. But this woman (Mrs. Johnson) was a Kate 2.0 Bitch. I follow Michelle on IG and she seems very into her family and helping children. She was an art teacher for kids on the spectrum until this year when the school closed. I can't imagine she knew all this was going on. I think she was a fan that Kate did let in a little but I hoping she wasn't privy to what Collin was going thru.
It's no wonder Kate kept her circle so small because she had lots of skeletons she needed to keep in the closet.
Does anyone remember who the helper was that went to Mexico with them?
Netflix apparantly is doing a Tell All documentary with Jon, Collin and Hannah. I am hoping Hannahs input is current and not clips from previous interviews.
There is speculation that Hannah is not speaking with Collin and Jon as she is no longer following them on Social Media after she made a comment about NOT saying anything about Kate and Steves relationship on set when Collin alluded Hannah had.
Anyways, here is the link
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/gosselin-family-documentary-release-date-news
I was waiting for Kate's Set the Record straight tour, but instead she has gone radio silent. Not even making comments on her last TT video anymore.
Jill Duggar left a nice comment on Colin's social media. She said she heard things from film crews, but she didn't know it was that bad. Seems like some of the crew transferred to the Duggar show because it was so bad at the Gosselins. I remember reading that somewhere.
Another plot twist. Hannah posted on her TT story that she hasn't lived with her dad for over a year nor spoke with Collin in a year. She is taking a step back from the current situation and will not be sharing any further details about Collins behavior growing up or her experiences with him growing up.
So not sure if she has been taken aback under Kate's spell, or she just wants to remain neutral. Hannah said she has had a relationship with her mom and siblings for a few years now.
ncgirl (#66), remember how TFW referred to those workers who practically lived in their home as "crew daddies?"
I'm sure they were kind to the kids and maybe even
formed some sort of connection, but to raise that to the
level of "they're like family" seemed like she was trying
to justify their presence. Meanwhile, they had a living, breathing daddy whom she kicked to the curb.
Typical of TFW to talk out of both sides of her mouth.
On one hand, the kids weren't really working -- just playing
and running in and out of camera range. And yet they had
production lights installed in the house and the kids spent enough time with the production crew that they were
thought of as family. Pick a story, heifer.
be interesting to see if any school records right before Collin was pulled from school corroborate all the "diagnoses.' Just another point of consistency. surely the school would've documented all the diagnoses and he would have been IEP/504 right? Probably a terrible student, falling behind etc.? I mean ADHD, OCD, bipolar and autism plus others?
I think Collin was the most intelligent of the 6 and that's why he is the only one who rebelled to filming, He understood more of what was happening than the others and was too miserable to pretend. 9 times out of 10 the rebels are the smart ones.
It popped up on my feed but Collin’s already posted hospital hold records that include statements from Kate she needs to dump him on them as the kids have prom that night. Not, is my son okay, what can I do how can I help. Just see ya we have prom, like the hospital is a baby sitting service.
Yes, FlimsyFlamsy, I remember that. I've been here almost from the beginning. I knew something was wrong with Kate. We were right. Not just about the abuse but Kate and Steve. I just finished the book. It's really good, not just for TV watchers, but for children who felt thrown away.
Collin's book is a bestseller. I remember Kate bragging about that for the book Beth wrote. I hope Kate finds out.
I remember Maddy mentioning on her Tiktok that she didn’t want Collin to release the book because she hadn’t given him permission to include her in it. Around that time, Hannah was also active on Maddy’s TikTok. I wonder if Hannah’s comments might have something to do with the book’s release. Mary
Collins book has rose to #1 on thr NY Times Best Seller list and Collin got his LEGO Ferarri!!
We need a new thread to celebrate!
Please admin 🥰!!
Some of oldies and from the beginning waited for this, and now its here!!
Yes!! Please Admin; a new thread will be welcome!!!!
A nanny come forward in a PEOPLE article, said she reported the abuse to CPS and quit. Validating the physical abuse of Collin.
I think we're going to see a massive, strategic media campaign, slowly over the weeks leading up to the NETFLIX documentary. Jon has had years of learning how to use the media. This stuff is gonna get real pretty fast. Collin has also said it's likely legal action will be taken and Jon has said criminal charges not civil cases.
A former nanny has spoken out about witnessing Colin's abuse to People, Kate's former friendly magazine. I wonder where Katie Coyne is. The former nanny also talked about how strict Kate was.
https://people.com/former-gosselin-family-housekeeper-claims-she-saw-kate-abuse-collin-exclusive-12187197?taid=6adbaa06440aec0001fbe3cf&utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com
Oh kate is doubling down! Now shes claiming collin killed animals? Well thats new! Weird that he has a dog who seems totally comfortable with him. So he only attacked people and animals before his book? Suddenly that urge disappeared! It’s a miracle!
I hope he sues her and I hope and pray someone steps in and investigates her abusive behavior.
Also, steves been around a long time, he witnessed her abuse, he was ok with that? I bet his ex wife has things to say! Same with tlc, they saw it all, they should be sued as well.
OMG- Kate is CRASHING!! The allegations she is making on her last TT about Collin is mind numbing. Attacking a sibling with a weapon ? Killing an Animal? Physical/Sexual innuendo to a female staff? Pretty serious allegations she has going. I sure hope Jon follows through with his treatment of a lawsuit if Kate continued.
It has probably been asked, but since Kate has posted such vile statements about her own son. If Collin was so supposedly dangerous, why did she not show up at his custody hearing to (not that I would condone it) to contest that he needed further treatment in a psychiatric facility? But she was willing to allow such said mentally ill individual to...be loosely handed over to his father like that? Would she not have, oh, I don't know, bothered to show up with said medical reports? Bring in his doctor? Anything?
I just find this so weird and hurtful. She's has never denied she's harmed her own son. Yet she blathers like an idiot online how dangerous he is.
https://www.change.org/p/call-for-investigation-into-kate-gosselin-kate-plus-8-for-child-abuse
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